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[sighs]
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I've told this story quite a few times...
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[sighs] but I'm ready to tell it again.
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Waldo was conceived above a pizza shop
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in the Fishtown neighborhood of Philadelphia.
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[upbeat music]
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♪ I am a pizza, I am a pizza ♪
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♪ With extra cheese ♪
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♪ With extra cheese ♪
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[Brian] We're here at Pizza Brain, it's a pizza shop.
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It's a pizza museum, it's also my home.
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I live upstairs with my wife. [laughs]
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This is Joe Hunter, he's, uh, one of the co-owners.
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Also the head chef here at Pizza Brain.
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He's also really good at tossing dough.
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Here he goes, it's like physical poetry.
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In between bites here, I want to show you
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something that's really important to me, thank you.
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Pizza Brain holds the Guinness record
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for the largest collection of
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pizza-related items in the world.
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It's real, it exists, it's all over this place.
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It's in the walls, it's in the floors.
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It's in the basement, it's in the attic
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and we're always growing, we're always collecting.
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We're always looking for new things.
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Pizza's a lifestyle, man, and, you know.
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I have no, I'm not slowing down, I'm only 28.
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[machine rumbles]
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Did Brian already say that I was the one that was, like,
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initiating wanting to have a baby?
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[interviewer] Uh, not specifically, he mentioned
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that there's some back and forth.
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Yeah, well, yeah, we both didn't know
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if we wanted to have kids,
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we always talked about being, like, you know.
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The aunt and uncle to our friends' kids
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or whatever, and then, um, I was holding
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our friend's baby and I just went...
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"What? Oh, oops, shoot, I need a baby." [laughs]
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Like, it just, like, woke something up in me.
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[soft music]
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-[Brian] What are you doing? -Organizing stuff for Waldo.
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[Brian] Oh, I mean, you're nesting?
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[laughs]
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[soft music]
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-[Brian] All right, well... -[laughs]
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...might be one of your last check-ins, how do you feel?
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-Good. -[Brian] This right here,
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this is the back courtyard upon which
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we will, I don't know, celebrate Waldo.
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It's going to happen, it's going to be monumental.
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[Brian] If you could take a complete uneducated guess,
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what's your over, under on the date?
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When's he coming, what about you?
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-[laughs] -Take a wild stab in the dark.
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-Nope. -Whenever he wants.
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[Brian] I'm guessing the first day of Spring,
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-March 21st. -And what a day for a birthday.
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[Brian] And he was two weeks overdue,
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his vital signs were great.
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He was super healthy, we had no idea
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he was as big as he would end up being.
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[nurse] Oh, my goodness, holy moly.
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-[Brian laughs] Here you go. -[nurses] That is a huge baby.
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[upbeat music]
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A baby tipped the scales at 13 pounds
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eight and a half ounces, actually
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he might have knocked the scales over.
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[reporter] His name is Waldo James Mysterious Dwyer.
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A substantial name for a substantial baby boy.
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No one knows the name Waldo.
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The only cultural reference people have
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is, uh, a kids book from, like,
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30 years ago, and maybe Family Matters.
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[reporter] If Waldo's dad looks familiar,
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he's been on TV before as co-founder of Pizza Brain.
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The Dwyers live above the shop.
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Folks downstairs looking forward to Waldo's first visit.
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[Brian] When we got home from the hospital,
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the whole neighborhood just, like, welcomed us.
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It didn't matter where we went for the next few weeks, for the next six months.
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Construction workers working on the street
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like, "Hey, buddy, hey, pizza baby," and I'm like
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yeah, something like that, and I went home just
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being like, "Holy shit, like, everybody knows Waldo."
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This part of my life feels like a dream
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because this is when things were just awesome.
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[soft music]
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Dad Cam was given to me by one of my closest
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and oldest friends, during Waldo's baby shower,
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he walked up to me and said, "So, uh, you know.
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You're a dad now, or you're going to be, and--"
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[friend] As a dad, you don't have your video camera yet,
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but here it is, it's recording right now.
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[Brian] And I was like, "Just like this? You just kind of film it like this?"
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And I was off to the races.
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Moo.
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[Waldo babbles]
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[friend] Is that what dad looks?
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Look at those dad shorts,
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that's what a dad looks like. [laughs]
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[soft music]
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-[Brian] Pretty developed palette. -[Danielle] It's so cute.
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[Brian] Pretty developed palette.
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[Waldo cries]
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[Brian] Oh, man, now you've got hiccups?
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[Waldo hiccups]
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[Danielle] His eyes are all gray.
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[splashing water]
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[Brian] Wal, have you just took your first, uh,
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few scoots with your knees and your butt?
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[Danielle] I think we were pretty smitten with him
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from the beginning, I think it was like
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pure bliss and excitement, and then.
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[Brian] Six month appointment, pediatrician.
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I'm guessing 27 and a half pounds.
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-What are you guessing? -I'm guessing 26.
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[Brian] 26.0?
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Four.
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[Brian] Throughout those, that six months,
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Danielle started noticing this weird thing.
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This, uh, like gray reflection in his eye
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and she would always point it out whenever we'd, like, throw him in the air
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or, like, he'd look at us, there was this, like.
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A hollow, sort of, like, white reflection
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in one of his eyes, but I did some
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research on the internet, and you know how it's, like,
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not really a good idea to do that
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because it's either could be nothing or could be
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this crazy, aggressive, rare childhood eye cancer.
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[Waldo cries]
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-[Brian whistles] -[nurse] Okay, we'll, uh, we'll listen today and see
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if we hear it or not, I'm happy to do that.
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The other thing, I'm just looking at his eyes.
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[truck backing up]
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There's something going on in his eye.
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Not sure what it is so,
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there's an appointment that's been scheduled up at CHOP.
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We're going to check it out now and see what's up.
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Uh, man, it's really, it's been, like, three years,
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but it's still really, uh, it's hard to...
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hmm, it's hard.
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[deep breathing] It's really hard to, like, go back to that moment
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because it really did change everything.
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[Danielle] In a way, I felt, like, kind of
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prepared for it because I had the, like,
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"Could be nothing or could be this,"
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so I'd done a lot of research on it.
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[Brian] And we go to an ophthalmologist
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up the street at, uh, the Children's Hospital
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of Philadelphia, I, it's kind of.
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I remember every second of that, but when it really hit was when
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the doctor came in and said, "There's a large mass growing in your son's eye,"
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and that just kind of, like, everything kind of blanked out for us, and I just remember
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thinking, "Oh, man," like, okay, this isn't, like,
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just all fun and games now, there's actually
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something going on with Waldo.
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[Brian] We have discovered that Waldo
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has a large growth blocking his retina in his left eye.
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So he can't see out of it right now.
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They don't know if it's cancerous or not.
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We won't be able to find that out until Monday
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when a specialist can see him.
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Waldo, when you're watching this as an older human...
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I don't know if you'll remember any of this part,
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but I hope that, I hope that you're okay, I think you're going to be okay.
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[Waldo cries]
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I mean, um, I felt super connected to Waldo
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because he was one of my best friend's kids.
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I just remember staring into his eyes
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and just feeling such a heavy vibe,
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and, fuck... something's wrong with Waldo.
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October 27th, 2014, we are taking Waldo
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to the Will Center, um, to check out
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whether the tumor that is growing
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in his left eye is cancerous or not.
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This could be a potentially very long few months.
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Uh, it could be a long day, but I feel
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strangely optimistic, not because
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I think it's going to go one way or the other
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or this way or that, more because, um,
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I knows the facts and the ground,
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which is that Waldo is loved, that I'm loved.
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So is Danielle, that we are taken care of
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by our friends and our family.
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It's all kind of a blur, feels like, uh, a bad dream.
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It was kind of the first time I really heard Waldo cry.
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[Waldo cries]
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They strapped him down and they
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did eye exams on him, and it was terrifying
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because he wasn't sedated or anything.
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It was just a five and a half month old,
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six month old being held down
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by, like, 12 people in the dark, screaming bloody murder
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looking like Clockwork Orange.
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Brian and I just held each other
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in the corner while they were looking at his eyes.
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They had this, like, sort of camera thing going on.
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Um, we heard.
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[doctor] Waldo has Retinoblastoma in both eyes.
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Retinoblastoma is the most common cancer of the eye
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in kids, you've done nothing to cause this.
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So that's, six, six months of chemotherapy, then done.
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I didn't, I didn't really know what it meant
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to go through chemotherapy, so while
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I was still kind of gathering myself,
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I got a text in the hospital
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while we're getting the diagnosis,
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and this is just a testament to how psychically linked
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I am with Waldo's uncles, Larry and Mike.
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I got a text, you know... [buzzes]
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...and it's like, "Come over for crabs tonight?
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We want to see you guys."
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I felt a moment of responsibility
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for making sure that this innocent child would live.
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It's, like, weird, but it's almost like,
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our paternal, like, instincts kicked in,
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where it's, like, that if I didn't use
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everything in my power to help,
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then, uh, I don't know, I wasn't being a good friend.
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It was... I mean, bar none, the most
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somber crab-like dinner we've ever had. [chuckles]
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Halfway through the dinner, Larry and Mike,
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kind of, excuse themselves and just kind of lean over and say,
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"Hey, could you come upstairs with us for a second?"
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And Larry, kind of, asked me in his Larry way, he's like,
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"So what do you want to do about this?"
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And I'm like, "What do you mean what do,
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what I want to do about this, I mean chemo's
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in a couple of days, I have no idea.
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I'm kind of terrified, I'm a little numb right now."
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And he's like, "Read this."
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[Sierra] My son is Landon Riddle, he was diagnosed
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with aggressive cancer.
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Leukemia when he was two years old in 2012.
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We were left with no option when
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they told us to take Landon home
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and make him comfortable, and Landon was only
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given an eight to ten percent chance of survival.
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We were left really with no choice,
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but to look for alternative treatments
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and we found medical marijuana to be one.
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It instantly improved his life,
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and medical marijuana cured Landon's cancer.
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He will have six years cancer free next month.
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We have decided to share our story
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in hopes of helping other parents.
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But I read that story,
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and I looked up at Larry and Mike and just said,
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"Well, wow, I mean, so you guys are--
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you, you want to do this with cannabis oil?"
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And they just kind of, looked at me like,
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"We've been think-- we've been talking about this for a week.
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Ever since you told us there was some thing in his eye."
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We showed Brian, uh, the story of Landon
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and suggested that maybe we go the route
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of us-- using cannabis, not in place of chemotherapy,
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but in conjunction with chemotherapy.
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I went home that night and stayed up
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til, like, six in the morning just doing
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research on the internet, I contacted
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Landon's mom, I contacted other
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cannabis friendly groups around the country,
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and just try to understand... [sighs] what exactly
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this medicine was and why I never had really heard of it.
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I mean, I grew up a right wing conservative Christian.
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I have a lot of ideas, I had a lot of ideas
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about weed leading up to them.
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I smoked it for fun, but I never saw it as a sacred plant.
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The internet showed me that very sim-- very quickly,
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and I fell asleep hoping
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I could bring it up with Danielle somehow. Hopefully she'd be okay with it,
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because she hated weed, she, she tolerated me
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smoking it, but the biggest thing about me
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and Larry and Mike was always how our breath smelled.
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-[Waldo grumbles] -[sighs]
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-You just smoked pot? -[Brian] Yes.
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-You stink like... -[Waldo cries]
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...you stink like pot.
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So yeah, so I wasn't well versed
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in, um, our good buddy, weed, I was, like, afraid.
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But she was going to school for herbalism
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and she was very much into plants
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and, and natural medicine, um, so yeah.
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That was when we decided we have to do this
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and as fast as possible too,
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and we have to go to California to get it.
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I was intrigued, I was apprehensive,
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but I was apprehensive about everything,
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so it wasn't, it wasn't as scary to me as chemotherapy was.
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[Brian] Yesterday, Waldo, you got sedated for the first time.
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I think you handled it like a champion.
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Well, stuff wearing off now, yeah.
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All that sedation wearing off finally, you waking up?
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Waldo, today is your first day of chemotherapy.
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You know that, I think you're going to be a champion still,
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you've shown me a lot of things about what it means to be strong
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already, so I guess
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I have no choice but to reciprocate it.
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[Waldo babbles]
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Show you that I'm strong, too.
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Can we do that, can we be strong together?
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[Waldo babbles]
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We're going to save that eye.
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[medical machines beeps]
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[Danielle] When they gave him, you know, his first IV
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I don't think he cried
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because he was so trusting and so sweet
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and so happy, always so happy and everybody
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always has commented on how happy Waldo is.
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You know, it's like, of course, aren't babies happy?
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I guess maybe not as happy as Waldo.
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The next day though was like, that was Halloween.
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Bud, this is your first Halloween.
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Perhaps one of the coolest holidays on the western calendar.
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Look at you, man, you're some kind of dragon.
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[muffled upbeat music]
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[doctors] All right, Mr. Dragon.
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Good morning, Waldo.
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-All right. -[Brian] Let's go, Wald.
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[doctor] So, we know that by giving Waldo
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this chemotherapy, the goal is that
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we are treating the cancer cells
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which are rapidly dividing cells,
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um, but it's also going to affect all
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rapidly dividing cells in his body.
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The healthy ones and the cancer ones.
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So, bone marrow, because it's always
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making these blood cells, is very rapidly dividing,
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so this is where we're going to see
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some side effects, so think of this as
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a little microscopic bleeding under the skin.
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-[cries] -[nurse] We, we sometimes sit a little fancy
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because we want him to, to--
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[Danielle] Not have a bad reaction.
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[Waldo cries]
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-[nurse] Does that make sense? -Okay. Mm-hmm.
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[Waldo cries]
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-[nurse] No gagging. -It's okay, baby.
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[Waldo cries]
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You're doing great.
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[Danielle] Good boy, Waldo, good boy.
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Stop fussing with me.
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[nurse] Now you're turning red.
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[Waldo cries]
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-[Waldo cries and chokes] -[Brian] Shit.
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[nurse] Okay, it's okay, hey, guys, can I have some help, please?
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[nurse 2] Coming, coming.
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-[nurse] Okay. -[Waldo cries]
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It's 5:07 in the a.m. November 2nd, 2014.
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In roughly 40 minutes, Larry's going to pick me up
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and we're going to travel across the country
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in order to acquire knowledge and physical medicine
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in the form of cannabis oil, it's highly illegal.
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Uh, if it were to be found out,
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there'd be a lot of legal ramifications, the least
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of which would be Child Protection Services, perhaps.
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And I don't care, because I would go to jail for Waldo.
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Waldo, if you're watching this.
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I was willing to go to jail for you.
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I've raised close to $2,000 in two days
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to pay for the plane ticket, the rental car
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and hopefully some of the medication.
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Uh, this is the beginning of a very epic quest.
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A life long quest that is starting today.
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It started on November 2nd, 2014.
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Remember it, there was an important one.
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Well, you would need to travel
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somewhere that had a legal protocol
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if you lived in Pennsylvania to get cannabis
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because it was illegal, I mean,
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so, for example, if you were caught with it,
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uh, there would be a number of potential consequences.
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You would be arrested, uh, you'd be charged.
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You'd have to hire a lawyer, depending on
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how much you had, you could be facing, uh, jail time.
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Beyond that, you could lose your child.
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You know, I could see, uh, and we have seen children
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and youth come in, say, "This guy is,
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uh, giving his son an illegal recreational drug,"
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and take the kid away from them.
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Civil asset forfeiture, if they catch you
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with marijuana in your house, they could forfeit your house.
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They could take your house from you. If you went
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across state lines to get it,
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and were caught bringing it across state lines,
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uh, then, you would be potentially subject to federal prosecution,
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you don't want to go, let's say, to California
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and bring back, you know, a three day supply.
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You want to bring back a bunch,
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if you get, if you got caught bringing back a bunch,
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you could be charged with intent to deliver.
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That, that is a, a significantly more serious charge.
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So, you would be facing all kinds
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of civil and criminal problems
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just trying to get your kid better.
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[soft rock music]
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[plane rumbles]
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[Brian] Larry and Mike, they had a love affair with that plant for a long time
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so they knew a lot about it, they knew
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a lot about how to grow it, where to get it.
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How to cultivate it, I mean they just.
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They were put on this earth to dance with that plant.
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Okay, one day, I get, uh, a private message
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on Instagram from some guy named jerrybucket
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which I thought was a strange name and he has
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this story for me, and my response
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was that my product is available in stores.
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You need to fly to California,
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get your medical marijuana recommendation
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and go buy this product, you know, sorry, I don't know you,
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but I can't help you directly.
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But the-- you can legally come to California
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and buy it at a store, and the people
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who work there will make sure you get what you need.
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Because of Larry and Mike, we were put in contact
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with not only the leading extract artist in the country,
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but, you know, Dr. Dina, who, this is what she does.
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Well, I am known in the cannabis industry
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as Dr. Dina, I am not a board certified physician.
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It's a nickname from Snoop Dogg
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because I helped him get his first
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letter of recommendation for cannabis.
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[Brian] Here's the code, $900 to pay for Waldo's medication.
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Waldo, I love you, this is it, don't get scared now.
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So, he took that step
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and it was really about introducing him to the different
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types of products that we have in the store,
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and different doses and what would be better for a child
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and the next step was actually
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getting him in touch with Brandon Krenzler.
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Brandon Krenzler is the father of brave Mykayla.
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She's another little girl who had cancer,
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who's in remission, and Brandon was really the first open parent
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to discuss giving his child cannabis oil.
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Brian reached out to me, I was just like "Wow."
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You know, I, I feel like helping this guy out,
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you know, Erin and I would have
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conversations about their family and Waldo
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and, you know, if he brought something
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to my attention that he was concerned about,
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we would discuss it as we sat there
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and we could advise as best we could, you know?
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But we're not doctors, but what we were
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able to advise him with helped,
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and that was a really good feeling,
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and that's kind of the guidance that I offered.
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It's just anecdotal, experience
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based that we had went through.
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None of that, when your, when your child is dying
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and your child is really sick.
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It, it is alone, and you feel alone, you feel s-- scared.
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-Terrified. -You feel like, the entire world
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doesn't understand what you're feeling.
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It's a connection, this person understands
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a very rare journey that you're on,
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and understands the feelings of judgment
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and the feelings of being happy
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that your child is doing better,
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but being frustrated that something
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that is providing your child an amazing
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quality of life is not being used
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and offered to every child in America.
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All right, so to keep things cool,
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I didn't film at all in Dr. Dina's office,
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but I tell you what, I'm about to go back
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there and pick up this stuff.
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She was amazing, she was accommodating.
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The whole experience was really positive, um.
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I can't believe that just happened.
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I can't believe she's a friend.
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How's Waldo doing?
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Uh, Waldo was nauseous last night,
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so he was puking and freaking out
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and it was hard to give him his anti-nausea medicine
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because he just wouldn't sleep at one point, so Danielle
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couldn't give it to him on the eight hour mark,
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because it would have just fucked everything else up.
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It's just like a waterfall, one thing
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creates another, dude, it's annoying.
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-[Brian] So, his jaw-- -[Danielle] He's not crying.
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[Brian] Medication is causing his jaw to tense up?
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-[Larry] Chemo does that. -[Brian] The chemo?
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[Danielle] Yeah, it, it gives him, like,
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muscle and bone hand stuff, and they--
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The doctor said that, um,
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you know. There's a possibility that he could
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have a hard time nursing, um, because of pain.
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[Brian] So you're happy we're out in California.
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[Danielle] Yeah, yeah, this sucks so bad, I feel crazy.
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I'm really looking forward to not having to be so sick.
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So, we get the medicine and we're looking at our watch,
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and it's like, okay, we've got an hour to get this thing an overnight shipping,
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so it's back to Philly as soon as possible.
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And so we went to Target and we bought
500
00:23:15,811 --> 00:23:18,939
a bunch of birthday supplies for some fictional kid,
501
00:23:18,939 --> 00:23:21,692
put together a whole care package for this kid's birthday party and,
502
00:23:21,692 --> 00:23:24,778
somewhere beneath all the nautical
503
00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:27,197
sea creatures and the crayons and the socks
504
00:23:27,197 --> 00:23:32,620
was these long syringes of cannabis oil and an ice pack.
505
00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,204
[chuckles]
506
00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:37,666
Then we had to... I don't know if I should talk
507
00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:39,793
about this part, where you're like.
508
00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:43,088
-Where we, you know, we mailed it. -[interviewer] Yeah.
509
00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:45,132
-USPS. -Yeah, you got to talk about that.
510
00:23:46,008 --> 00:23:47,760
[Brian] Larry wouldn't really let me film
511
00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:51,722
because he was terrified of evidence.
512
00:23:51,722 --> 00:23:53,933
[Larry] Get out of here with that evidence. Get out of here with that.
513
00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:55,017
[Brian] What are you talking about?
514
00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:56,685
I remember
515
00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:58,103
this moment, I'm waiting in line.
516
00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:00,064
I got, I got the medicine in my hands.
517
00:24:00,064 --> 00:24:02,191
There's this huge line of people, I'm hot,
518
00:24:02,191 --> 00:24:05,027
Larry's like, Larry's really nervous, not talking.
519
00:24:05,027 --> 00:24:07,821
And we get up to the window, we've got, like, five minutes.
520
00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:09,365
I was nervous that this thing wouldn't
521
00:24:09,365 --> 00:24:12,660
get out for a couple of days, and mind you,
522
00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:18,374
I'd never smuggled drugs before. Every glance, every person, I'm just like, "Oh, my God."
523
00:24:18,374 --> 00:24:21,085
Like, they're going to catch us, or this guy's going to ask us what's in it.
524
00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:24,088
But we got to the post office just in time,
525
00:24:24,088 --> 00:24:26,715
right before it's still able to overnight it,
526
00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:30,970
and we did and I believe we were on the plane that night.
527
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:34,014
[Brian] And I should say I bought enough
528
00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:37,518
for about eight months, a gram a month, I think.
529
00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:40,562
There was a lot riding on that package because if it got lost,
530
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:45,067
if it got seized, if it somehow was held, I, I had no idea
531
00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:48,237
what we would do with Waldo's chemo treatment going forward.
532
00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:50,948
And waiting for it, we were back in Philly.
533
00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:52,991
It's like, finally it shows up.
534
00:24:52,991 --> 00:24:55,202
The package wasn't held anywhere.
535
00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:56,870
We get it from the address we got it
536
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:59,039
and we opened it up and, you know, there it was.
537
00:25:00,582 --> 00:25:02,000
-[Danielle] Clothes? -[Brian] Clothes.
538
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,419
[Dr. Dina] What we figured out
539
00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:05,754
from, from other parents learning
540
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:08,298
is that if you mix coconut oil
541
00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,885
in with the cannabis oil, it helps the absorption.
542
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:15,139
You can also give less oil to the patient
543
00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:16,807
because they're absorbing more of it,
544
00:25:16,807 --> 00:25:18,892
so if you just put in oil in a capsule
545
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,854
and take it or oil on a strawberry and eat it,
546
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:23,981
your stomach acid's going to kill most of it,
547
00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:25,482
but if you put it in coconut oil
548
00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:27,192
you tend to just absorb way more.
549
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:29,862
So, that helps parents because it's less of a cost.
550
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,948
[Brian] It's going to help you, Wal.
551
00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:34,366
I know you're in pain right now.
552
00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:38,037
[Waldo cries]
553
00:25:40,414 --> 00:25:42,499
[Brian] He's got the lowest dosage possible.
554
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:44,460
[Waldo cries]
555
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,463
I know.
556
00:25:47,463 --> 00:25:49,631
[Brian] Waldo's been feeling sick
557
00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:53,635
to his stomach and puked when we got here, he's very tired.
558
00:25:54,595 --> 00:25:57,181
Waldo, what's he got?
559
00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,773
[Larry] Smells really good, first batch.
560
00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:09,777
[Danielle] Wait, Waldo.
561
00:26:09,777 --> 00:26:11,153
[Larry] He sucks on your fingers all the time.
562
00:26:11,153 --> 00:26:12,905
You just got to get him--
563
00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:16,408
[Brian] Babe, babe, babe, babe, babe, stop. Hold on.
564
00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:18,619
[Waldo screams]
565
00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:22,664
-[Brian] It's okay, aw, buddy. -[Danielle] You think we're good?
566
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:25,167
-[Brian] Better than a whole tub of syrup. -[Danielle] Hell, yeah.
567
00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:28,337
[Brian] Hey, buddy, hey, hey, it's okay, come here.
568
00:26:28,337 --> 00:26:29,630
[Matt] I'm sure it costed a lot of money
569
00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:33,217
in flights and hotels and all that,
570
00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:35,177
and I, I still feel guilty to this day
571
00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:38,555
that I didn't just help him directly, but it's illegal
572
00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:41,141
and I didn't know who we was and...
573
00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:43,477
it was some weird Instagram account, and it was.
574
00:26:43,477 --> 00:26:45,938
I, I, I didn't know these people, and, uh,
575
00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,439
I made them fly all the way to the West Coast
576
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:49,066
and I just, I still feel bad about that.
577
00:26:49,066 --> 00:26:51,443
-[soft music] -The messages I get are brutal.
578
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:54,863
It's like every day, I wake up and it's 10 or 20 messages a day
579
00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:56,406
of people who really need help
580
00:26:56,406 --> 00:26:58,242
and who are really suffering, a lot of them
581
00:26:58,242 --> 00:27:00,577
are terminal, but then I get one or two
582
00:27:00,577 --> 00:27:03,330
messages a day of people whose life have been changed.
583
00:27:04,206 --> 00:27:05,958
This is the life saver right here.
584
00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,835
This is the one that changes people's lives.
585
00:27:07,835 --> 00:27:11,588
The plant behind us is known as ACDC.
586
00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:15,843
That's its strain name, it's 20 to 1 CBD
587
00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:18,804
to THC, which is what makes it rare.
588
00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:21,140
It's, uh, it's the plant that you can give
589
00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:23,100
to people and it won't get them high.
590
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:24,560
Well, see, this is important to talk about.
591
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,186
People seem to be concerned when,
592
00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:27,771
when it comes to children and cannabis, you know,
593
00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:29,606
because cannabis has its own stigma
594
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:30,941
and then, when you introduce children to that
595
00:27:30,941 --> 00:27:32,776
and it gets really weird for people,
596
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:34,111
but what they got to understand is
597
00:27:34,111 --> 00:27:35,863
what Waldo's taking specifically,
598
00:27:35,863 --> 00:27:39,074
that is a plant that is grown with very little THC.
599
00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:41,743
THC is actually the thing, that, that high feeling, right?
600
00:27:41,743 --> 00:27:43,287
The compound that makes up
601
00:27:43,287 --> 00:27:45,372
the cannabis plant, CBD, it's mostly that.
602
00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:47,875
CBD is found in cannabis,
603
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:51,420
mostly more of a hemp plant, but in the female plant
604
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:53,130
it was there, back 20 years ago.
605
00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:55,841
All these strains were CBD filled,
606
00:27:55,841 --> 00:27:58,135
so all of these growers actually spent years
607
00:27:58,135 --> 00:28:00,387
breeding CBD out of the plant.
608
00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:02,306
Which is why the THC content started
609
00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,558
soaring in all these different strains.
610
00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:06,810
Then we realized, whoopsies... [laughs]
611
00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,354
the best part of the medicine is what we're actually breeding out,
612
00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:11,189
so they started breeding it back in.
613
00:28:11,189 --> 00:28:13,192
And now, because we've only really been
614
00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:14,693
experiencing the positive results
615
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,695
of CBD for, like, five years,
616
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,196
that we've actually been able to play around
617
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:19,865
with this plant in the right numbers.
618
00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:22,701
Starting to smell nice.
619
00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:24,411
[Jess] I feel like a lot of the issue
620
00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:26,538
nowadays are people spraying their plants
621
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,374
with different pesticides or fungicides.
622
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:31,335
We try to focus on the most natural way
623
00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:33,670
of growing the plant and organically.
624
00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:36,048
Not spraying it, doing, like, a natural
625
00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,592
kind of preventative for pests and mold.
626
00:28:38,592 --> 00:28:41,637
So, we just try to make the cleanest medicine as possible.
627
00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:44,264
That's why you see me doing, going picking leaves off, that's just part
628
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:46,808
of the physical labor that we do.
629
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,021
My mom passed away from cancer
630
00:28:51,021 --> 00:28:54,149
at, uh, like, age 59. I was in California
631
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:57,402
when she had cancer and she couldn't
632
00:28:57,402 --> 00:29:00,447
try cannabis medicine because she was on,
633
00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:04,159
like a cancer trial experimental drug
634
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:06,787
where they'll take her off the experimental drug
635
00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:08,580
if she fails a drug test,
636
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,750
so I couldn't give her cannabis medicine.
637
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,878
A lot of what I do now is try and help other people,
638
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:19,424
who are, could, like Waldo, who could die from cancer.
639
00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:23,261
[Waldo babbles]
640
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:32,187
[Danielle] After the first time of giving him the oil,
641
00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:34,690
probably within an hour at the most
642
00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:36,942
he lightened up, smiled a little bit.
643
00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:40,570
Was hungry, was, like, happy again sitting up.
644
00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:43,740
I remember coming upstairs and I, I just
645
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:45,283
walked upstairs to the sound of laughter.
646
00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:47,077
Like, just, everyone's laughing,
647
00:29:47,077 --> 00:29:48,870
they're laughing at Waldo, he's crawling around.
648
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:50,247
He's making jokes, like, he was
649
00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:52,290
back to himself, I couldn't believe it.
650
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:55,127
It seems, like, too good to be true,
651
00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:57,337
but it was real and...
652
00:29:57,337 --> 00:30:01,091
I felt like, I could just like... [sighs] like, breath out
653
00:30:01,091 --> 00:30:04,720
and just be like, "Okay, this maybe
654
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,972
is going to, like, be what helps us
655
00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:08,640
get through this nightmare."
656
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,642
[Brian] Wallet, phone, keys, bag.
657
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,144
[door thuds]
658
00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:14,688
[Brian] All right, day two of treatment.
659
00:30:14,688 --> 00:30:17,607
In the last 36 hours, we've noticed
660
00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:19,901
remarkable improvements in Waldo's
661
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:22,070
general overall mood, we've noticed
662
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:24,656
improvements in his, uh, nausea, there hasn't
663
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:27,534
really been any, there's been a little bit, but it's been tiny bits of puke.
664
00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:32,414
We're noticing a return to form as far as laughter and, uh, general--
665
00:30:32,414 --> 00:30:34,958
-Rolling around. -Rolling around, curiosity.
666
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:36,960
Ability to joke around and crawl.
667
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,213
We gave him a dose at 6:30 this morning.
668
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:42,674
He slept very soundly, he ate a lot.
669
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:44,885
-or, at least, a healthy amount. -He ate okay.
670
00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:47,554
-[Brian] Yeah, Danielle's a... -Had wet diapers.
671
00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:49,347
...Danielle's a good scientist.
672
00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:53,018
He's not dehydrated like he was the other day
673
00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:55,812
when he was throwing up and not eating enough.
674
00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:58,690
[Brian] And when's the last time you've given him any kind of pharmaceuticals, uh,
675
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,984
or, like, over the counter Benadryl or anything like that?
676
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:03,445
Two days ago.
677
00:31:05,655 --> 00:31:08,075
[Brian] Okay, and what-- where are we going today? What are we doing?
678
00:31:08,075 --> 00:31:09,576
[Danielle] Checking his white blood cell count.
679
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,411
[Brian] Checking his white blood cell count.
680
00:31:12,579 --> 00:31:19,628
[sighs] All right, um, November 6th, 2014.
681
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:24,633
I've got a lot of hope today, a lot more hope than
682
00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:25,717
I've had in a long time.
683
00:31:30,597 --> 00:31:33,183
I'm Scott Chipman, I'm the Southern California
684
00:31:33,183 --> 00:31:36,686
Chair of CALM, Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana.
685
00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,606
You know, we're 100% in favor of patients
686
00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:41,149
getting what they need, but we're
687
00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:44,236
also 100% in favor of protecting patients.
688
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:46,154
With any medicine, you have to measure
689
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:48,365
the bad with the good, and if the bad
690
00:31:48,365 --> 00:31:51,076
outweighs the good, then it's not efficacious.
691
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:54,412
You know, I could say that, um, bourbon makes me
692
00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:56,998
feel good, so I'm going to call it medical bourbon.
693
00:31:56,998 --> 00:31:59,126
But it's not medicine, and that's what we see
694
00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:02,712
going on in the, uh, in the pot industry today, too.
695
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:05,173
It makes you feel good, so how could it be bad?
696
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,467
It's got a green cross on a glass door,
697
00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:09,136
so kids think, "Well, how could it be bad
698
00:32:09,136 --> 00:32:11,012
if they're calling it medicine
699
00:32:11,012 --> 00:32:13,098
and adults are encouraging people
700
00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:14,975
to use it, uh, so it can't hurt me."
701
00:32:14,975 --> 00:32:17,936
The biggest problem is these stories.
702
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,147
These anecdotal stories about somebody
703
00:32:20,147 --> 00:32:22,607
who feels better, or somebody who's
704
00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:27,571
cured of cancer, uh, as a result of, uh, using pot.
705
00:32:27,571 --> 00:32:29,990
Those stories get out to the general public
706
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:32,242
and so everybody thinks, "Oh,
707
00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:37,247
jump on this pot, drug addicting, uh, bandwagon
708
00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:41,126
and, uh, it can't hurt me because we've legalized it,
709
00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:44,296
we've medicalized it, uh, we've commercialized it."
710
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:46,423
It's completely irresponsible to just say,
711
00:32:46,423 --> 00:32:49,301
"I heard CBD help somebody and so, let's just
712
00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:51,511
put it out on the market and have everybody using it."
713
00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:54,389
First, first of all, almost all CBD
714
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:55,807
that's on the market is contaminated.
715
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,602
It's got pesticides, it's got THC.
716
00:32:58,602 --> 00:33:01,313
It's not labeled correctly, its potency is all wrong
717
00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:03,106
and that's the FDA sending out
718
00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:05,275
warnings to companies who are just
719
00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:07,152
throwing CBD on the market, um,
720
00:33:07,152 --> 00:33:11,114
because that's the buzz word of today in health, is CBD.
721
00:33:11,114 --> 00:33:13,283
CBD oil, organic CBD,
722
00:33:13,283 --> 00:33:16,620
it's a bunch of BS and people are being taken advantage of
723
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:18,580
who, uh, see this advertising and just
724
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:20,123
go out there and start taking it.
725
00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:23,168
[Brian] All right, we just got Waldo's first,
726
00:33:23,168 --> 00:33:27,672
uh, blood tests back, um, thankfully,
727
00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:32,469
his platelets are good, his hemoglobin is good.
728
00:33:32,469 --> 00:33:35,305
Uh, his white blood count is low, which they expect.
729
00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:36,848
Hopefully, it doesn't go lower.
730
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:38,808
We were making up the fact that we're doctors.
731
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:42,145
We were having to pretend, but Danielle started to keep a log.
732
00:33:42,145 --> 00:33:44,689
You know. We said, "Well, let's be scientific about this.
733
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:47,192
Let's pay attention to how much we're giving him and when,
734
00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:49,319
how it affects him and how it doesn't.
735
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,446
Okay, we've heated up the medicine.
736
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:52,906
[birds chirp]
737
00:33:52,906 --> 00:33:54,658
Just a head of a pin, very low dosage.
738
00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:59,246
-[Danielle] Come here! -[Brian sings] Waldo!
739
00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:08,713
My background is in emergency
740
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:13,592
and childhood medicine, I chose to go a nursing route.
741
00:34:13,592 --> 00:34:16,346
I did that for about 12 years
742
00:34:16,346 --> 00:34:18,806
and I got a lot of experience, and I got a lot of experience
743
00:34:18,806 --> 00:34:22,561
working with people and patients, and seeing
744
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:24,896
modern medicine and pharmaceuticals,
745
00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:27,607
and I have a great respect for it,
746
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:31,987
and I don't turn my back on it, but there's other ways.
747
00:34:33,612 --> 00:34:36,616
The, like, horrible, horrible side effects
748
00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:39,828
from chemotherapy, like, things that,
749
00:34:39,828 --> 00:34:41,371
you would never want to, like,
750
00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:43,415
stay on the page too long as you're reading about,
751
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:47,168
you know, "This medication can cause--" Um,
752
00:34:47,168 --> 00:34:48,878
our oncologist kept asking every time
753
00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:51,922
that we would see her, she would say, "How's his hearing?"
754
00:34:51,922 --> 00:34:53,757
Because one of them can cause deafness.
755
00:34:53,757 --> 00:34:55,927
-[Danielle] Waldo. -[Brian] Waldy.
756
00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:58,013
What's up, Waldus, how you doing, man?
757
00:34:58,013 --> 00:35:00,849
[Brian] At that time, um, I didn't really have anyone to talk to.
758
00:35:00,849 --> 00:35:03,184
I wasn't really comfortable talking about or didn't know how I could.
759
00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,603
I don't have any adjectives left
760
00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:07,564
to describe how I feel,
761
00:35:07,564 --> 00:35:09,149
I don't even know why I'm filming this all right now.
762
00:35:09,149 --> 00:35:11,318
We just-- we're in a hospital for 14 hours.
763
00:35:11,318 --> 00:35:14,029
So, Dad Cam really ended up being like a therapist.
764
00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:16,489
Um, it was just this little robot that I felt like
765
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:18,408
I could say anything to and not have to
766
00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:20,702
feel, you know, judged or really anything.
767
00:35:20,702 --> 00:35:23,079
I could just say it and not really worry about it.
768
00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:28,918
[sighs] I know this is hard, Waldo, it's probably
769
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:31,171
one of the hardest things you'll ever have to deal with,
770
00:35:31,171 --> 00:35:32,172
maybe not.
771
00:35:32,172 --> 00:35:33,590
[soft music]
772
00:35:35,759 --> 00:35:37,302
I can't say that it's going to be better
773
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,012
or it's going to be okay or it's going
774
00:35:39,012 --> 00:35:41,097
to be all right, but I can tell you
775
00:35:42,015 --> 00:35:43,600
that I'm going to be with you through it.
776
00:35:56,529 --> 00:35:57,572
Hey, bud.
777
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:02,369
[gently kisses] Hi.
778
00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:06,081
I'm Staci Gruber and I'm the Director
779
00:36:06,081 --> 00:36:08,249
of the Cognitive and Clinical Neuroimaging Core
780
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:10,168
here at McLean Hospital, I also direct
781
00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:11,920
something called the MIND program.
782
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,839
Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery.
783
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:17,008
Remember that every great discovery
784
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:18,760
began with anecdotal findings,
785
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,553
and so when people say, "Oh, that's all anecdotal,"
786
00:36:20,553 --> 00:36:23,306
I always say, "Absolutely true, it's what we have
787
00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:26,518
and it's what made us sit up and pay attention initially."
788
00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:28,395
Like, "Hey, maybe there's something to this.
789
00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:29,813
We should be looking at this more thoroughly."
790
00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:31,606
I think initially, people explored
791
00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:34,359
the use of cannabinoid, uh, base products for cannabis
792
00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:37,529
for palliative care, so for the treatment of things like, nausea and vomiting
793
00:36:37,529 --> 00:36:40,573
associated with chemotherapy or, um, increasing appetite.
794
00:36:40,573 --> 00:36:42,242
But there's a big question now
795
00:36:42,242 --> 00:36:43,701
about going beyond palliative care.
796
00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:45,537
So, not just addressing the symptoms
797
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,581
of treatment, but actually being able to shrink tumors.
798
00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:51,960
Being able to really get at the core of the problem
799
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,796
and I think that it's a very exciting time, now,
800
00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:58,842
uh, in terms of the potential for cannabis and cannabinoid based therapies.
801
00:36:58,842 --> 00:37:00,677
We need a lot more research, but clearly
802
00:37:00,677 --> 00:37:02,971
there's some evidence, um, that some of the constituents
803
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:05,682
from the plant may actually have effects on tumor
804
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:07,934
and may shrink tumor growth and prevent tumor growth.
805
00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:09,936
That's incredibly important for a number
806
00:37:09,936 --> 00:37:12,313
of indications, not just cancer, but it's important.
807
00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:16,234
Anecdotal findings often lead to tremendous discovery.
808
00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,361
[Waldo and Brian laugh]
809
00:37:19,863 --> 00:37:21,322
[Waldo laughs]
810
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:24,367
[Danielle chuckles]
811
00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:30,707
[Brian] It's, uh, round four of Will's Eye Institute today.
812
00:37:30,707 --> 00:37:32,584
We're over the halfway point,
813
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:36,629
tomorrow is CHOP for chemo and Friday, chemo and all that.
814
00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:39,007
They would send us home with prescriptions
815
00:37:39,007 --> 00:37:41,926
to go pick up, anti-nausea medication.
816
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:44,512
A laxative, things like that.
817
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:47,015
And we would still pick them up because we didn't want
818
00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:50,435
to, like, have them like, "What are you-- wait.
819
00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:52,187
Why aren't you getting your medications?" You know.
820
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:54,314
But I just kept them in the closet, you know?
821
00:37:54,314 --> 00:37:57,484
I was like, "Oh, here's our bags of medications
822
00:37:57,484 --> 00:37:59,944
that he doesn't take because he doesn't need them."
823
00:38:01,529 --> 00:38:03,406
[people chatter]
824
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:11,498
That's a lot of milk.
825
00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:13,124
-[Danielle] All right. -[nurse] Good, pace yourself
826
00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:14,667
as you go through this, you know?
827
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,377
It's, you know, six months, it's a lot
828
00:38:16,377 --> 00:38:18,087
of ups and downs and decisions.
829
00:38:18,087 --> 00:38:20,757
Just know if you can see through the tunnel,
830
00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:23,301
everything's going to be okay in the end. We just, we have to make a few
831
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,094
-little decisions here and there. -[Danielle] Okay.
832
00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:27,180
[nurse] All right, doing well, everything's good.
833
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:28,765
[Danielle] Okay, other than just the, um--
834
00:38:28,765 --> 00:38:30,308
-He's a happy little guy. -[Danielle] Yeah.
835
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:32,894
You two have gone through all of this so far.
836
00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:35,396
He comes in and he doesn't run away from us
837
00:38:35,396 --> 00:38:38,858
or, you know, cry when he sees us, so whatever
838
00:38:38,858 --> 00:38:40,401
you guys are doing, you're doing it right.
839
00:38:40,401 --> 00:38:41,694
[Danielle] Thank you.
840
00:38:42,862 --> 00:38:45,323
[Brian] Whatever you guys are doing, you're doing it right.
841
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:47,617
[soft music]
842
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:11,432
Remember this day, 2015, you're incredibly content.
843
00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:18,398
♪ When love shines out ♪
844
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:21,776
That's it.
845
00:39:22,902 --> 00:39:24,737
[Brian] He didn't need one blood transfusion.
846
00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:26,948
He didn't need one platelet transfusion the whole time.
847
00:39:26,948 --> 00:39:29,659
He maintained his weight and at some points gained weight.
848
00:39:29,659 --> 00:39:31,369
The only thing that really you could tell
849
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,746
about Waldo to, you know, gather that he was
850
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:36,749
going through chemo was the fact that he didn't have any hair.
851
00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:40,336
[Danielle] You're doing good, honey.
852
00:39:40,336 --> 00:39:41,879
[Brian] Hey, man, I'm here for, uh,
853
00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:43,756
my son's last day of chemo at the Wood Center.
854
00:39:43,756 --> 00:39:45,550
-No problem. -[Brian] Can I get a little hand touch?
855
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:47,427
-Right. -[Brian] Yes, yes, thank you.
856
00:39:47,427 --> 00:39:48,678
-[guard] Come on back. -[Brian] Thank you.
857
00:39:48,678 --> 00:39:49,762
[Danielle laughs]
858
00:39:49,762 --> 00:39:51,472
Man, this is so cool.
859
00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:55,685
You would never remember this moment
860
00:39:55,685 --> 00:39:57,770
but I will remember this forever.
861
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:59,480
[Waldo babbles]
862
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,191
[Brian] Yeah, you're going to remember this too, then?
863
00:40:02,191 --> 00:40:04,402
Cool, well, you're talking to your future self.
864
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:07,780
He'll be glad you got this, love for you, Waldo.
865
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,365
[Waldo babbles]
866
00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:11,576
-[Brian] Yeah? -Da, da, da, da.
867
00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,244
[Brian] Man, you got a lot to say today.
868
00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:18,207
[Brian] We're here for one last day, dude.
869
00:40:18,207 --> 00:40:22,295
One last day, one last day, here we go.
870
00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:24,047
-[Danielle] There we go. -[indistinct chatter]
871
00:40:26,341 --> 00:40:27,842
[camera clicks]
872
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,554
[woman] I love this so much.
873
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:32,555
[camera clicks]
874
00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:36,100
[upbeat song plays]
875
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,977
[all laugh]
876
00:40:40,897 --> 00:40:43,149
[Danielle] Oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh.
877
00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:46,527
'70s, so good.
878
00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:49,989
[Brian] Waldo James Mysterious, you've just completed chemo.
879
00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:52,325
How do you feel, I'm turning it off now.
880
00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:56,496
[all] Waldo, Waldo, Waldo, Waldo.
881
00:40:56,496 --> 00:41:01,459
Waldo, Waldo, Waldo, Waldo. Waldo, Waldo, Waldo, Waldo.
882
00:41:03,169 --> 00:41:05,880
[Brian] Hey, Wal, congratulations, man.
883
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,092
You're done with chemo, no more tumors.
884
00:41:09,092 --> 00:41:12,053
-[Waldo cries] -[Danielle] Goodnight, guys.
885
00:41:12,053 --> 00:41:14,055
[Brian] Congrats, dude, wonderful day.
886
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,309
-Love you, babe. -[Danielle] Love you too.
887
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,520
[Danielle] Yeah, like, it didn't feel like we needed
888
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,230
to tell them why, you know, we didn't
889
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:23,898
need to say, like, well, little did
890
00:41:23,898 --> 00:41:25,525
you know we've been using cannabis oil,
891
00:41:25,525 --> 00:41:27,443
but it did feel, like, interesting
892
00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:29,654
to, like, kind of know that we had
893
00:41:29,654 --> 00:41:32,615
this, like, card up our sleeve of, like,
894
00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:35,493
"Yes," and, like, wishing that we had more, like.
895
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,245
You know, could separate it more and see, like,
896
00:41:37,245 --> 00:41:39,956
what actually, like, helped, you know, like,
897
00:41:39,956 --> 00:41:41,374
break down the tumor. Um.
898
00:41:41,374 --> 00:41:43,626
-[Waldo cries in the distance] -[laughs]
899
00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:46,004
[Brian] Yeah, I couldn't do anything else
900
00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:47,630
with him while he was there.
901
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:49,590
[Danielle laughs]
902
00:41:49,590 --> 00:41:51,634
Come on over. [laughs]
903
00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:57,432
Right, we're talking about him anyway.
904
00:41:57,432 --> 00:42:01,018
But yeah, if, um, I think, yeah, it felt like
905
00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:04,355
anybody would want to hear that, that news
906
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:08,776
at the end of, like, a long struggle that your baby's all clear.
907
00:42:11,195 --> 00:42:12,488
[Danielle laughs]
908
00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:16,117
[Waldo babbles]
909
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:19,829
[Brian] So yeah, you'd think when chemo ended
910
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:21,205
that was kind of like, "All right.
911
00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:22,749
You've gone through the hardest part.
912
00:42:22,749 --> 00:42:24,625
You are more aware of yourself.
913
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:26,044
You're more connected to your family.
914
00:42:26,044 --> 00:42:27,879
Waldo's tumor free," that's actually
915
00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:31,632
when life got really, uh, it just changed
916
00:42:31,632 --> 00:42:33,551
because now I was cut loose into
917
00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:37,138
the real world of people's opinions and stigmas,
918
00:42:37,138 --> 00:42:39,682
and I had to keep this shit a secret still,
919
00:42:39,682 --> 00:42:41,476
and it burned me up because I had
920
00:42:41,476 --> 00:42:43,227
so much hope I wanted to share,
921
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:44,687
and I seemingly couldn't share it
922
00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:46,522
with anybody, not even my own family.
923
00:42:46,522 --> 00:42:48,858
I think I was scared, because I didn't know
924
00:42:48,858 --> 00:42:51,402
anything about it, and I knew it was
925
00:42:51,402 --> 00:42:53,362
a form of marijuana, so I thought,
926
00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:56,324
"Holy crap, my nephew's getting high," you know?
927
00:42:56,324 --> 00:43:00,078
Um, actually, I, I just heard in his voice.
928
00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:03,206
Like, when he would explain it, um,
929
00:43:03,206 --> 00:43:05,792
that he had done his homework
930
00:43:05,792 --> 00:43:10,588
and that he was, he was not just doing it because
931
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,089
he was, like, a pothead trying
932
00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:14,801
to make a point, like, he was desperate.
933
00:43:14,801 --> 00:43:16,886
[indistinct chatter]
934
00:43:16,886 --> 00:43:20,098
-Hey. Oh, I know, same with him. Hi. -[Brian makes playful noise]
935
00:43:20,098 --> 00:43:23,476
[Bridget] So, we were in Pennsylvania, we rented a house together.
936
00:43:23,476 --> 00:43:26,938
This was, I think, uh, Waldo was about one year old
937
00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:28,731
at that point in time,
938
00:43:28,731 --> 00:43:32,109
so he had been using, the, the oil for, for that long.
939
00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:35,404
My brother was super passionate.
940
00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:37,865
Like, very intense that whole weekend.
941
00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:41,994
When he was being so passionate about it, we--
942
00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:43,663
I definitely wasn't quite ready
943
00:43:43,663 --> 00:43:48,543
for hearing about all-- I didn't believe
944
00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:50,378
all the, like, amazing things that
945
00:43:50,378 --> 00:43:52,380
he was telling me about this thing or why it was such a--
946
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:54,090
I, I still had it in my mind
947
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:56,175
that, "Well, this is illegal and this is not okay."
948
00:43:56,175 --> 00:43:59,470
Oh, my gosh, your little face.
949
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,681
Your little lips, oh, my gosh.
950
00:44:01,681 --> 00:44:03,099
[Brian laughs]
951
00:44:03,099 --> 00:44:04,559
He's like, "Who are you, crazy lady?"
952
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:05,852
[Brian] No, he does it to all-- He's like
953
00:44:05,852 --> 00:44:07,228
I just crushed you with my face.
954
00:44:07,228 --> 00:44:09,105
-Oh, my God. -[Waldo babbles]
955
00:44:09,105 --> 00:44:11,232
-You see it? -[Brian] Let's go, Wal.
956
00:44:11,232 --> 00:44:13,109
-[Bridget] Let's test Cam, a different Cam. -[Brian] Waldo,
957
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:16,320
-that's your cousin. -[Bridget] Say, hi. [chuckles]
958
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,447
[Brian] You guys always drink together.
959
00:44:18,447 --> 00:44:21,200
[Bridget] And one night, we were playing a game.
960
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,746
My dad said something about his shoulder pain or something.
961
00:44:25,746 --> 00:44:28,666
We were playing a board game. It was really innocent, it was like Pictionary
962
00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,710
or, you know, one of those kind of games.
963
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:33,004
And he is-- he was trying to do a motion
964
00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:34,964
of, like, throwing a javelin, I think?
965
00:44:34,964 --> 00:44:36,465
And he, he couldn't do it because his shoulder
966
00:44:36,465 --> 00:44:38,843
hurt really bad, and he'd taken
967
00:44:38,843 --> 00:44:40,595
some Aspirin or something and it wasn't helping,
968
00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:42,013
and I said, "You know, Dad, I got some medicine
969
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:43,764
in a jar that would really help your
970
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:47,268
-arm, I think." -My dad didn't like that comment
971
00:44:47,268 --> 00:44:49,478
and then, like, one thing spiraled into another
972
00:44:49,478 --> 00:44:51,689
and it was, like, a huge blow up.
973
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:54,775
And so I felt that he just really pushed the issue, I'm like, "Why not?
974
00:44:54,775 --> 00:44:57,695
Why, I don't understand, it's helped Waldo.
975
00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:59,405
I mean, it's helped-- why can't you just open
976
00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:01,782
your mind to it," and it was really forceful,
977
00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:04,368
and they began even questioning, like,
978
00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:06,704
in so many words, how can we
979
00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,956
really know what helped Waldo, like, you know.
980
00:45:08,956 --> 00:45:10,499
And I, I was just so livid,
981
00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:12,627
Waldo's sleeping upstairs, I ended up just
982
00:45:12,627 --> 00:45:14,545
pissing everyone off, I did, I hurt everybody.
983
00:45:14,545 --> 00:45:17,298
I started speaking really strongly.
984
00:45:17,298 --> 00:45:19,592
We went to bed not speaking to each other.
985
00:45:19,592 --> 00:45:21,802
I was pissed, we were all pissed.
986
00:45:21,802 --> 00:45:23,512
It, it was the first time that I actually
987
00:45:23,512 --> 00:45:26,474
saw how angry I was.
988
00:45:26,474 --> 00:45:28,559
Here I was, thought I was trying to, like, speak the truth
989
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,186
or do something good and
990
00:45:30,186 --> 00:45:32,688
in fact I had accomplished the exact opposite.
991
00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:35,316
I had scared everybody, and they all left.
992
00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:37,026
[somber music]
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[Brian] We actually haven't talked for a year.
994
00:45:44,867 --> 00:45:46,202
It's kind of heavy, but my parents
995
00:45:46,202 --> 00:45:48,120
and I aren't talking right now.
996
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,457
Because, because I can't help but want to share--
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00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:54,335
I guess I'm a little hot under the collar
998
00:45:54,335 --> 00:45:56,003
when it comes to cannabis, and it's,
999
00:45:56,003 --> 00:45:57,672
it's kind of like politics or religion, you know,
1000
00:45:57,672 --> 00:45:59,256
they say never talk about that with your family.
1001
00:45:59,256 --> 00:46:00,967
Well, when we get together, all I want to
1002
00:46:00,967 --> 00:46:02,885
talk about is weed and how it helped Waldo.
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♪ Nobody going To break my stride ♪
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-♪ Nobody going to school me ♪ -[Brian] Oh, shit.
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♪ I got to keep on moving ♪
1006
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[Brian] I started to spend my, uh, energy
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00:46:16,816 --> 00:46:20,069
being an advocate for medical marijuana.
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So I, I started to call myself Dadvocate.
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So, hello again.
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[Brian] I got to meet the governor,
1011
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,326
I got to meet senators.
1012
00:46:27,326 --> 00:46:29,412
I got to share my story with other moms and dads.
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This is becoming a much more politically safe topic.
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[Brian] We thought that, that the path that seemed logical
1015
00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,919
was we're going to help join the conversation
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so that we can pass this bill, so that
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Waldo can have access to this medicine
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and all Waldos like him will have
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free access to this, in this state, at least.
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That's what the thinking was.
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I am Tom Wolf, Governor of Pennsylvania.
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Uh, I have, I've been supporting the, the legalization
1023
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of medical marijuana, and I think Senator Folmer,
1024
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Senator Lee said the same thing,
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that one of the things that
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would really help us as we think about
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what we want to do with medical marijuana
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is just get the facts out,
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just to have people understand what we can do.
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What, what it would mean to allow doctors
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to treat their patients with the medicine
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they'd like to treat their patients with.
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Let me just make sure everyone knows,
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Senator Folmer, could you stand up
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and let everybody-- I think
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you all know Senator Folmer, right?
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[people applaud]
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I'm a believer in cannabis as medicine, firmly,
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and I am, I am very comfortable in my relationship
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with my Savior on this whole issue.
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I don't use it for drugs, I don't
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use it to get high, I don't use it
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to get, to get a buzz, it can be used for my health.
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It can be used to make me better
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and, and God gave it to me for that aspect.
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[Brian] I just thought, cool, we'll help
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join the wave of people that really like
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cheering on this bill, but it gave me
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the very clear perspective of,
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like, how many people actually wanted access to cannabis
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and didn't have it, people whose
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mom was dying or their son had cancer
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or their, their uncle, or their whoever, their best friend.
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Like, people saw us as a, as a resource of information,
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but I was-- I kind of had my hands tied.
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I can tell you what, what I did, I got a ticket
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and flew across the country and snuck it over.
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It's still not-- I can't, I can't get you this medicine.
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And then I actually started getting people this medicine.
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[plane rumbles]
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[Brian] LA.
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You know, I met parents who--
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they didn't know where else to get it.
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They were as clueless as we were.
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They didn't have Larry and Mikes.
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They didn't have people that were knowledgeable
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with this, so they were meeting
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shady folks in basketball courts in Pittsburgh,
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so we took it upon ourselves to start
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to kind of create this underground
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circuit of medicine, I think Larry
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must have made, like, over a dozen runs in one year,
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going from the west coast back to here
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bringing medicine to other parents, to other patients.
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Larry and Mike at that point really
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stepped into their role and kind of
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blew me away with their compassion.
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I mean, considering they're seen
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as drug dealers, their hearts were gigantic.
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[Waldo babbles]
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[Danielle] Oh, my gosh.
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[Danielle cheers and applauds]
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[Brian] You got to understand, like, that went
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from an incredibly hopeful Spring
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to then trying to put myself out there
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and be like, "Hey, weed's okay," and then,
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wouldn't you know it, Waldo's cancer came back.
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[sighs] Yeah, so after he had been totally clear,
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the following year, he had some,
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um, little tumor seeds pop back up.
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[Brian] What really was frustrating to us
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was the fact that, apparently, with this type
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of cancer, it has, like, a 90% chance of returning.
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We'd weaned him off the cannabis oil at that point,
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and I wish we hadn't because as soon as they're like, "The tumors have returned,
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We need to go back into chemo," we were just like, "God."
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We've learned that with all of our cancer patients,
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I had people that had been cancer free and in,
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in remission for ten plus years.
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They take their oil every day as a maintenance dose.
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So, we've learned from different people's experiences.
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[Danielle] But it was less intense because
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it was one day a month for three months.
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We would go in, they would put him under
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and then do this procedure
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where they would feed the medicine directly
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into the back of his eye through this, like, catheter
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that went through his, um, veins and arteries
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and then came up to the ophthalmic artery
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and, psh, went right in there and diffused the medicine.
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-[people chatter] -[Brian] Do you guys want me to talk to him?
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[Waldo cries]
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Yeah, we had to go back into chemotherapy for a second time.
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[Danielle] Hey, Waldo.
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You're doing a great job.
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Little shaky?
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[Brian] Good work today, dude.
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[nurse] Oh, my, going to feel a little cold.
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-[Danielle laughs] -[nurse] Going to feel a little cold. Cold.
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Did it tickle? It tickles? Oh. Ticklish?
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[Brian] All right, bud.
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[Bridget] You go to to daddy.
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Yeah! Good work today, dude, good work today.
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[Brian] So, this second round was, um, it was much easier
1125
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by comparison because we knew what to do.
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It wasn't, like, uh, so scary for us.
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We're like, "Yeah, back to the drawing board,
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let's keep giving him weed.
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[bowl clanks]
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00:51:31,755 --> 00:51:32,965
[water pours]
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00:51:34,258 --> 00:51:35,301
[bowl clinks]
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[Danielle] Okay, that's good.
1133
00:51:46,061 --> 00:51:48,897
One, two, three.
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00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:50,816
[Danielle and Waldo scream]
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00:51:58,198 --> 00:52:00,034
One, two.
1136
00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:01,744
[Waldo screams]
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[Brian] It's crazy, you had chemo yesterday, Waldy.
1138
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I mean, to this day he still takes it because we're not taking any chances.
1139
00:52:09,877 --> 00:52:12,463
I mean, until he's five, he's going to pretty much need to be taking this
1140
00:52:12,463 --> 00:52:16,133
every day, because the cancer might come back.
1141
00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:17,801
[somber music]
1142
00:53:00,803 --> 00:53:02,346
[Brian] That's when I started to kind of like,
1143
00:53:02,346 --> 00:53:04,098
go off my rocker a little bit.
1144
00:53:04,098 --> 00:53:05,933
Here I was still trying to put on
1145
00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:08,268
the face and be Mr. Business, be Mr. Pizza.
1146
00:53:08,268 --> 00:53:10,687
Every week was going into these hospitals
1147
00:53:10,687 --> 00:53:12,606
to go with Waldo, having this little
1148
00:53:12,606 --> 00:53:14,900
semblance of hope that, yeah, we got this secret
1149
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,070
and it's helping us, but what about everybody else?
1150
00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:21,448
You know, there were kids that started chemo
1151
00:53:21,448 --> 00:53:23,409
when he did that had, now, had half a brain,
1152
00:53:23,409 --> 00:53:25,577
that radiation had begun, that had died.
1153
00:53:25,577 --> 00:53:28,330
Like, this is just everyday life.
1154
00:53:28,330 --> 00:53:31,333
How do you really take time after a crazy
1155
00:53:31,333 --> 00:53:32,709
life event like that, where you just
1156
00:53:32,709 --> 00:53:34,336
didn't know what was going to happen,
1157
00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:36,630
and now you're all still here, but no one's
1158
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:37,923
really been able to process it in a way
1159
00:53:37,923 --> 00:53:39,717
that's, like, articulate,
1160
00:53:39,717 --> 00:53:41,844
so you're just left with, like, life as it is
1161
00:53:41,844 --> 00:53:43,971
and you go back to life, and life
1162
00:53:43,971 --> 00:53:45,472
isn't the same, you're not the same.
1163
00:53:45,472 --> 00:53:48,642
Pizza Brain.
1164
00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:50,769
And this is, you know, this is me.
1165
00:53:50,769 --> 00:53:52,688
I'm admitting, like, I was changing,
1166
00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,314
but I didn't know how to really talk about it.
1167
00:53:54,314 --> 00:53:55,858
When people would come up to me and ask me, like,
1168
00:53:55,858 --> 00:53:57,151
"Hey, how's the kid," and they had no idea
1169
00:53:57,151 --> 00:53:58,735
he'd even gone through chemo.
1170
00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:00,529
I was just like, I couldn't be in that position
1171
00:54:00,529 --> 00:54:02,114
for a while, so, my business partner
1172
00:54:02,114 --> 00:54:04,491
sat me down... [sighs] and basically began with,
1173
00:54:04,491 --> 00:54:06,702
"We've been noticing that you're just
1174
00:54:06,702 --> 00:54:10,122
not the same person you were, we're noticing a change.
1175
00:54:10,122 --> 00:54:12,875
Mainly, you're not as committed as you used to be."
1176
00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:14,334
Instead of trying to explain myself
1177
00:54:14,334 --> 00:54:17,045
I just started being a total dick.
1178
00:54:17,045 --> 00:54:19,590
That conversation, all of us just hurt each other
1179
00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:22,009
so much, and I was getting so upset.
1180
00:54:22,009 --> 00:54:23,677
The end of the conversation
1181
00:54:23,677 --> 00:54:25,888
was them saying, "why do I talk so much about weed?"
1182
00:54:25,888 --> 00:54:28,682
Why am I always at Larry and Mike's smoking weed?
1183
00:54:28,682 --> 00:54:30,017
What they didn't know is we were hanging out
1184
00:54:30,017 --> 00:54:32,019
mixing medicine for my son.
1185
00:54:32,019 --> 00:54:33,562
I couldn't tell them that Larry and Mike
1186
00:54:33,562 --> 00:54:35,314
saved my son's life because I was afraid
1187
00:54:35,314 --> 00:54:37,566
that they would, I don't know,
1188
00:54:37,566 --> 00:54:40,611
react in a way that wasn't helpful to my family.
1189
00:54:40,611 --> 00:54:42,696
So, they're, like, chastising me
1190
00:54:42,696 --> 00:54:45,657
for being so passionate about a plant that saved my son's life.
1191
00:54:45,657 --> 00:54:47,618
They don't know that, of course. So, I can't blame them,
1192
00:54:47,618 --> 00:54:48,994
but, I, I separated
1193
00:54:48,994 --> 00:54:51,246
myself that day, I just said, "whoever
1194
00:54:51,246 --> 00:54:53,165
you are and whoever I am, we don't
1195
00:54:53,165 --> 00:54:55,751
see things the same way, and I can't do this anymore."
1196
00:54:58,462 --> 00:55:00,672
Something became very crystal clear to me,
1197
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:02,925
that if I was going to continue on
1198
00:55:02,925 --> 00:55:04,384
I needed to find a more productive way
1199
00:55:04,384 --> 00:55:06,094
to join the conversation myself.
1200
00:55:06,094 --> 00:55:08,514
Even if it just meant I need to move
1201
00:55:08,514 --> 00:55:11,141
somewhere where I don't have to pretend anymore.
1202
00:55:11,141 --> 00:55:12,559
Where I don't have to travel across
1203
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,353
the country and spend the last bits
1204
00:55:14,353 --> 00:55:16,438
of my life savings just to treat
1205
00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:19,358
my son's eye cancer, like, that's silly.
1206
00:55:22,569 --> 00:55:25,989
Okay, uh, I thank you for being here
1207
00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:28,116
and thank you, everyone, for being here.
1208
00:55:28,116 --> 00:55:31,453
This is a great, great day for Pennsylvania,
1209
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:33,956
but, but more important, this is really
1210
00:55:33,956 --> 00:55:36,333
a great day for Pennsylvanians.
1211
00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:39,336
We're not re-- responding to a special interest here.
1212
00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:41,463
We're not responding to somebody
1213
00:55:41,463 --> 00:55:43,131
who makes campaign contributions.
1214
00:55:43,131 --> 00:55:44,716
We're responding to people here
1215
00:55:44,716 --> 00:55:46,593
who are telling us that there is
1216
00:55:46,593 --> 00:55:49,096
a real human need, here in Pennsylvania,
1217
00:55:49,096 --> 00:55:50,973
and we did that, we responded to that.
1218
00:55:50,973 --> 00:55:52,474
So, I want to thank the advocates.
1219
00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:54,101
[people cheer and applaud]
1220
00:56:00,816 --> 00:56:02,317
[man] It's law. Yeah!
1221
00:56:03,402 --> 00:56:05,779
[people applaud]
1222
00:56:05,779 --> 00:56:08,574
[Daylin] And welcome to a new day in Pennsylvania.
1223
00:56:08,574 --> 00:56:11,869
This is a monumentous piece of legislation.
1224
00:56:11,869 --> 00:56:13,704
This is the most important piece
1225
00:56:13,704 --> 00:56:17,749
of social legislation we have passed in 30 or 40 years.
1226
00:56:17,749 --> 00:56:20,919
Marijuana is medicine and is coming to Pennsylvania.
1227
00:56:20,919 --> 00:56:22,879
[crowd cheers and applauds]
1228
00:56:27,342 --> 00:56:29,595
[Brian] An open letter to every single one of Waldo's
1229
00:56:29,595 --> 00:56:33,807
friends, families, buddies, uncles, aunts,
1230
00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:36,935
internet based acquaintances, casual observers
1231
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:39,438
and the like, on April 20th, 2016.
1232
00:56:40,522 --> 00:56:43,233
Today is a very special day,
1233
00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:45,360
because I'm about to publicly share something
1234
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,529
that Danielle and I have been keeping a secret,
1235
00:56:47,529 --> 00:56:50,657
holding it in, for well over a year now.
1236
00:56:50,657 --> 00:56:54,703
It's this, Waldo uses weed to fight his cancer.
1237
00:56:56,455 --> 00:56:59,541
Best, Dadvocate, aka Waldo's dad.
1238
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[mouse click]
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[Waldo chants] Da, da!
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Here we go.
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[Brian] But cannabis, even though it's, uh, technically
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legal here, or the bill passed,
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it won't be available for a couple of years,
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so we need, we need to go to a place where
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it's readily available, and I don't have to
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pretend I'm a criminal to do it.
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We have to just kind of go to the medicine.
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We started to notice that it was time to move on.
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♪ We'll meet again ♪
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♪ Don't know where ♪
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♪ Don't know when ♪
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♪ But I know we'll meet again ♪
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♪ Some sunny day ♪
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♪ Keep smiling through ♪
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♪ Just like you always do ♪
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♪ 'Til the blue skies... ♪
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[Brian] Why's my family leaving Philadelphia?
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We're exhausted.
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I was really angry... [chuckles] at a lot of things
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because I thought I was doing the right thing
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and everywhere I turned, things were breaking.
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Uh, my parents weren't talking to me.
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My business partners and I had pretty
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much separated completely, we also just
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didn't have the money to travel across the country
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every time we needed to get Waldo his medicine.
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I, I don't want to go, but I have to.
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[people chatter]
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We left Philadelphia with a credit card, about 400 bucks
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in cash, and one way tickets to San Francisco.
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I feel like as soon as Larry and Mike
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hugged us and drove away, I was completely released...
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-[Danielle] You were released. -...from feeling all the sentiment
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and nostalgia of a place I've lived in for 12 years.
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[Brian] He's ready.
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-Ready? -[Danielle] Just keep rolling.
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[Brian] At this point in my family's life
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we really don't know what's going to happen.
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I mean, I dreamed pretty hard up until now.
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I thought I had a pretty good plan
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of what I thought my life was going to look like at 31,
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but now that we've made the decision to go
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I'm kind of excited because this is a new chapter.
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Like we truly are on the bleeding edge
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of our family's story,
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we have no real idea what's going to happen.
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[Danielle] Almost there, we have one more gate.
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Don't give up now, one more gate.
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[Brian] And I do think there's a distinction
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between walking away from something
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and walking towards something, and the excited part of me, the one that's
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not nervous and kind of terrified, uh, knows that,
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I don't know, there's something we are actually walking toward.
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I don't yet know what it is,
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but that's what adventure is,
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that's what a quest is.
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-[Danielle] We landed. -[Daylin] A number of people
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in Pennsylvania had moved.
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They became basically cannabis refugees.
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A person who wanted medical cannabis
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in Pennsylvania in 2016 still had some problems.
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Uh, the bill was signed April 17th, 2016,
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by the governor, um, but that doesn't mean
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on April 18th, it's available in, in, in a store.
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First, you have to draft regulations.
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Uh, based on those regulations, a process
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to determine who gets the licenses to grow.
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Those facilities, once those licenses
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are awarded then have to build.
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Once the, the grow house is built,
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you have to plant a seed and it has
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to grow and there has to be a crop and then
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it has to be processed, so, from
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April 17th, uh, 2016, until the first dispensaries
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were open was about a year and a half,
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uh, and so someone like Brian, a year and a half
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is too long... [chuckles]
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the, the, this is not
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uh, the country we want to be.
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[Staci] The history of cannabis is rather extraordinary
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and there's no other substance that I can think of
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that's had such a storied past.
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From, you know, the very first documented
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use of cannabis as medicine goes back thousands of years,
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and it was part of the US Pharmacopoeia,
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uh, starting in 1850, which meant that doctors
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could and did prescribe it, there was
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no certification process, they didn't
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recommend that you use it, it was a prescription
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which meant that you could go to a pharmacy and get it.
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It fell out of favor through a number of,
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uh, for a number of reasons, um, mostly political.
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It's interesting that in 1937
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when the, uh, United States government
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enacted the marijuana tax,
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one of the most vocal opponents to that tax
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was the American Medical Association,
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who claimed at the time we, we shouldn't
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outlaw this stuff because we think
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it may be helpful, it needs to be studied.
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I believe very strongly that cannabis
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and, uh, specifically some of the cannabinoids
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in cannabis are-- they qualify as medicines
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and there is some research to support
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that it's not just something that is a,
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you know, it's lucky that this is having
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some sort of benefit in patients.
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Uh, we have cannabinoids in our body.
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We produce natural cannabinoids
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called Endocannabinoids that have
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defined receptors in our body that receive
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these cannabinoids and send a signal
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to the cell to do one thing or another.
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To act in a particular way in response
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to these cannabinoids, some of these responses
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might be beneficial in certain diseases like cancer.
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The Endocannabinoid system is one
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of the most understudied systems that we have.
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Chemicals and receptors that respond
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to chemicals within the plant.
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We also have our own system of chemicals.
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Anandamide and 2AG, which we make on our own.
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That's the Endocannabinoid that we make,
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that's our chemical. And that's really
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what the receptors are for... [chuckles] but in fact
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these things in the plant, Phytocannabinoids
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interact effectively, so we are wired for weed.
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Again, for, for every story you hear
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of cannabis cured my cancer,
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you hear that, uh, coffee enemas cured my cancer
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or, uh, you know, sleeping in an HBO chamber, uh, cured my cancer
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so it's, it's interesting, it's worth pursuing
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but it's really hard to embrace this
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as a clinician and as a researcher
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without rigorous scientific study.
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In the, uh, 19th century, we had this
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thing people called, uh, snake oil, right?
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So you got this guy in, in a wagon
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and, and a horse and he's riding around
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the country saying, "Buy my snake oil.
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It's going to cure everything."
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Marijuana industry is the snake oil
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of the 21st century.
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Most of what we know about the effects
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of cannabis on the brain, for example,
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come from studies of recreational cannabis users,
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and it is believed that most
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of the decrements that we see related
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to cannabis use is linked to THC.
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That's important because if you're only
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talking about trace amounts or almost none
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01:03:49,576 --> 01:03:52,203
on board, if you will, um, there's not
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necessarily as much to be quote concerned about.
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That said, we don't have any longitudinal studies
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of kids on whole plant derived high CBD products.
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Should we? Of course we should.
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Of course we should, um, does that mean
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that people aren't going to give this
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to their children, if this is literally
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their last hope? Absolutely not.
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People will do anything, wouldn't you?
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[Brian] We're very far from home, although I don't know
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01:04:16,102 --> 01:04:17,312
where home is at the moment.
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I'm going to roll with that, I'm going to let
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that be my guide right now.
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01:04:22,859 --> 01:04:24,569
So, we just started contacting anyone
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we knew on Instagram and through the internet.
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Different growers and people that had
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01:04:28,448 --> 01:04:30,283
started contact and follow us since
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we went public with our story.
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So, I just started contacting
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some of them and saying, "We're looking for work.
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We're looking for experience, we just want to be around
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the medicine and the people who honor it."
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It's September 5th, 2016, we came here
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without a plan, obviously, and as that has
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01:04:47,008 --> 01:04:50,845
continued to play out, uh, we don't
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01:04:50,845 --> 01:04:52,846
feel like there's really a plan revealing itself.
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01:04:52,846 --> 01:04:56,726
However, it doesn't seem like... [grunts] doesn't seem like
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there's really work for us, the current plan as is,
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01:04:59,521 --> 01:05:01,272
is we're in this park right now
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trying to make calls and make contacts
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01:05:03,233 --> 01:05:04,943
and just figure out the, the next step
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01:05:04,943 --> 01:05:06,986
forward on this path,
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there has been times where I've thought I want
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to go back to Philly, Danielle says no.
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She said we're never going to get these years back.
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01:05:13,118 --> 01:05:14,577
We're never going to have this opportunity again
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01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:16,955
to just be on the road as a family,
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01:05:17,831 --> 01:05:19,582
without, uh, worrying about a landlord
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01:05:19,582 --> 01:05:23,503
or school or anything else, any nine to five job.
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01:05:23,503 --> 01:05:25,505
[Danielle] I always felt in the back of my mind, like,
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the end goal is Washington where my dad
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01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,720
and his wife live, so I told my dad
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we were coming, um, maybe sooner, maybe later
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01:05:37,142 --> 01:05:40,979
but he said, "Well, I have a trailer you guys could stay in."
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[door thuds]
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The day we get into town, we get a call from Danielle's dad, and he says,
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"Hey, uh, I think I found Brian a job."
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01:05:50,029 --> 01:05:53,616
I was at a gas station and I ran into
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01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:56,578
this lady who recognized me from, you know, my falcons
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01:05:56,578 --> 01:05:59,288
because he's, like, a falcon farmer, he breeds birds.
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01:05:59,288 --> 01:06:02,584
-[bird caws] -[Brian] He's like, "Yeah, uh, she gave me her card.
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It had a cannabis leaf on it, and I just kind of took a chance and said,
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"Hey. My son-in-law's in town today, uh,
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you know anybody who could give him some work?"
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01:06:10,675 --> 01:06:11,968
She absolutely did.
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01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:16,055
she introduced me to a guy named Paul Lindsay, she said
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he was a cool dad who ran a family business.
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01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:21,978
I had me, I had me a job I think two days later.
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01:06:23,438 --> 01:06:25,565
Paul and, um, Lori and the whole crew
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01:06:25,565 --> 01:06:28,526
being so, like, open and welcoming
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01:06:28,526 --> 01:06:30,653
were like, "Yeah, absolutely, move your trailer here,"
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01:06:30,653 --> 01:06:32,989
and so my dad hooked up the trailer
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on the back of his truck and he moved our trailer over here,
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01:06:36,201 --> 01:06:37,785
and we don't know how long we'll be
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in the trailer, but, um, for now, it's home.
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Like, Waldo calls it, "My home."
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[soft music]
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[Brian] All right, look, Waldo, look at the trailer.
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[gasps] What do you think?
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01:06:53,509 --> 01:06:54,719
[Waldo babbles]
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[Brian] Compared to what Waldo knew growing up in Philly.
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It was a completely different experience.
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[Waldo babbles]
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-[Brian] What are those? -[Waldo babbles]
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-Goats, yeah. -Oh.
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[Brian] By comparison, he was like a caged animal in the city
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and now, I was watching him run free
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in the forest, surrounded by pigs
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and chickens and ducks, it was incredible.
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I mean, this is for Waldo's quality of life.
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This is for our quality of life.
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[Waldo] Oh, uh-oh.
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[gate rattles]
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[playing flute]
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[Brian] I got my first pay day yesterday.
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That allowed us to stabilize at least
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and just figure out what the next move of.
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So, going into that Winter, the slow season
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for the cannabis industry, you know,
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obviously, a lot of snow and ice.
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The family we were working for, I'll say,
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just like a lot of situations in that world,
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can be kind of tenuous, kind of impermanent.
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The more recreational weed becomes a thing,
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01:08:03,371 --> 01:08:05,163
uh, it does become much more cutthroat.
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01:08:05,163 --> 01:08:06,791
So, the family we are working with
1489
01:08:06,791 --> 01:08:08,376
fell in some hard times and realized there wasn't
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01:08:08,376 --> 01:08:10,962
really much work, and facing the winter,
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01:08:10,962 --> 01:08:13,006
as we were, it was just like, "We got to
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01:08:13,006 --> 01:08:14,507
find something a little more stable for us."
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01:08:14,507 --> 01:08:16,676
We got to find some place with heat
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01:08:16,676 --> 01:08:19,178
and Bellingham, which was just a little bit
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01:08:19,178 --> 01:08:21,014
north of this farm happened to be
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01:08:21,014 --> 01:08:23,140
the city that, uh, Danielle and Waldo had been spending
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01:08:23,140 --> 01:08:25,268
a lot of time in while I was working at the pot farm.
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01:08:26,644 --> 01:08:28,895
[soft music]
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Being in a community of people
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01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:33,776
that are surrounded with the backdrop of, like,
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01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:35,278
mountains and trees.
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01:08:35,278 --> 01:08:37,488
More trees than people, beautiful lakes
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01:08:37,488 --> 01:08:40,241
and oceans and streams and places that we just
1504
01:08:40,241 --> 01:08:42,952
get to all go together and enjoy ourselves.
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01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:45,203
No sooner than maybe a day after
1506
01:08:45,203 --> 01:08:48,041
we told each other we need to find a place
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01:08:48,041 --> 01:08:49,751
with, like, a wood fired stove
1508
01:08:49,751 --> 01:08:51,586
we found ourselves at a friend's place,
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01:08:51,586 --> 01:08:53,712
and Danielle just said, "Man, I would give
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01:08:53,712 --> 01:08:56,381
anything to live somewhere with a wood fire stove,"
1511
01:08:56,381 --> 01:09:00,011
and just like that, our friend wrote a number on a piece of paper, he goes,
1512
01:09:00,011 --> 01:09:02,055
"Oh, you should call my friend Bill. He lives down the street,
1513
01:09:02,055 --> 01:09:03,639
he's got a wood fire stove and I think
1514
01:09:03,639 --> 01:09:05,183
he just had a place open up on his land."
1515
01:09:09,979 --> 01:09:11,397
These are our noisy neighbors.
1516
01:09:11,397 --> 01:09:12,732
[ducks honk]
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01:09:13,691 --> 01:09:14,901
[Brian makes explosion sounds]
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01:09:14,901 --> 01:09:16,818
[Waldo babbles]
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01:09:16,818 --> 01:09:18,863
-Jump in! -[Waldo laughs]
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01:09:18,863 --> 01:09:19,906
Do it again.
1521
01:09:20,782 --> 01:09:23,283
[Waldo laughs]
1522
01:09:23,283 --> 01:09:24,868
Do it again.
1523
01:09:24,868 --> 01:09:27,080
[Brian] And then, we were connected to a family
1524
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,915
that met up with us, had us over for dinner
1525
01:09:28,915 --> 01:09:30,541
and I kind of told them, was very open.
1526
01:09:30,541 --> 01:09:31,959
Just like, "I'm looking for work.
1527
01:09:31,959 --> 01:09:33,627
You got anything, do you know anything?"
1528
01:09:33,627 --> 01:09:37,799
And what happened next was so, uh, unlikely.
1529
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:39,466
It was the far, the farthest thing outside
1530
01:09:39,466 --> 01:09:41,301
my comfort zone, I can imagine.
1531
01:09:41,301 --> 01:09:44,055
I was offered a job being a Waterproofer.
1532
01:09:44,055 --> 01:09:45,473
[machine whirs]
1533
01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,523
I didn't know what a Waterproofer was.
1534
01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:55,608
It entailed me restoring crawlspaces
1535
01:09:55,608 --> 01:09:57,527
and foundations in people's houses.
1536
01:09:57,527 --> 01:09:59,320
The first day I got there, I was terrified
1537
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:00,905
because most of my life,
1538
01:10:00,905 --> 01:10:03,074
I've been avoiding this very kind of work.
1539
01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:05,451
Just observing what my mind was doing
1540
01:10:05,451 --> 01:10:07,370
while I was in a job that I--
1541
01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:08,830
was like. I just didn't want to do it,
1542
01:10:08,830 --> 01:10:10,623
I was resisting it for a little bit.
1543
01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:13,751
When I actually began to accept that this was my life,
1544
01:10:13,751 --> 01:10:15,628
that it was affording me the opportunity to live
1545
01:10:15,628 --> 01:10:21,092
in this beautiful paradise and just buy food, pay rent,
1546
01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:23,344
uh, some of my edges started to rub off.
1547
01:10:23,344 --> 01:10:25,722
I started to just go with it,
1548
01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:28,433
and in the going with it and the acceptance of it...
1549
01:10:29,308 --> 01:10:32,311
[sighs] I'm really happy right now.
1550
01:10:33,771 --> 01:10:38,359
[Danielle] Life in Bellingham is very easy, in a way.
1551
01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:41,237
Like, compared to how I felt when I was in Philly,
1552
01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:42,780
I think because I felt like I was kind of
1553
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:46,784
walking around in my memories and who I was
1554
01:10:46,784 --> 01:10:50,580
before the diagnosis versus after.
1555
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:52,540
I knew that I needed to start over.
1556
01:10:53,541 --> 01:10:56,502
And the community in Philly was great
1557
01:10:56,502 --> 01:10:58,379
and my friends that I still have there
1558
01:10:58,379 --> 01:11:00,089
are so wonderful, but I felt that it was
1559
01:11:00,089 --> 01:11:05,136
time to, to like, find a new way to, like, heal.
1560
01:11:07,513 --> 01:11:09,098
Wal, can I have some of your pizza?
1561
01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:10,224
Could I have a bite of your pizza?
1562
01:11:10,224 --> 01:11:12,059
No, no, no, no.
1563
01:11:12,059 --> 01:11:14,562
[Brian] Every day I wake up, I am glad to be here.
1564
01:11:14,562 --> 01:11:16,814
I am so thankful Waldo's healthy.
1565
01:11:16,814 --> 01:11:21,068
I am so grateful to do life with Danielle.
1566
01:11:21,068 --> 01:11:23,696
After everything we've been through together.
1567
01:11:23,696 --> 01:11:26,157
It's only been, uh, you know, three years, that's not a long time.
1568
01:11:26,157 --> 01:11:28,075
[soft music]
1569
01:11:34,457 --> 01:11:37,251
On top of that, Waldo having direct access
1570
01:11:37,251 --> 01:11:38,711
to that medicine, I mean, to be,
1571
01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:42,215
to be able to walk into a store and pick up
1572
01:11:42,215 --> 01:11:45,718
what he needs, like, we're picking up eggs and milk.
1573
01:11:46,969 --> 01:11:50,473
That's really nice... [chuckles] you know, I mean,
1574
01:11:50,473 --> 01:11:54,101
all of the-- up until now, all of that,
1575
01:11:54,101 --> 01:11:56,521
that silliness I talk about, all the hoops,
1576
01:11:56,521 --> 01:11:58,940
all the money, the plane tickets, the traveling,
1577
01:11:58,940 --> 01:12:01,234
the laws, the, like, "what are we going to do?
1578
01:12:01,234 --> 01:12:03,861
What happens if we get caught?" Like, all gone,
1579
01:12:03,861 --> 01:12:05,863
I'm going to drive to the store.
1580
01:12:05,863 --> 01:12:10,034
"Honey, uh, pick up a box of, uh, you know, peanut butter puffs
1581
01:12:10,034 --> 01:12:12,202
and let's get Waldo's medicine too 'cause we're low."
1582
01:12:13,871 --> 01:12:17,291
Cool, done, happy ending, end of story. [chuckles]
1583
01:12:17,291 --> 01:12:18,501
[soft music]
1584
01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:27,468
Let's see, for the last, like, year and a half,
1585
01:12:27,468 --> 01:12:29,637
I have not felt quite like myself,
1586
01:12:29,637 --> 01:12:32,181
um, and I've seen a few different doctors
1587
01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:34,225
to kind of, like, figure out why.
1588
01:12:34,225 --> 01:12:37,144
I saw one more doctor and this doctor
1589
01:12:37,144 --> 01:12:38,771
just, like, sat down with me and was like,
1590
01:12:38,771 --> 01:12:40,606
"Well, these are your blood levels.
1591
01:12:40,606 --> 01:12:43,317
They're within normal ranges, but they don't look great,
1592
01:12:43,317 --> 01:12:45,361
so I'm going to order a whole bunch of these tests
1593
01:12:45,361 --> 01:12:46,737
and we're going to get you an ultrasound of
1594
01:12:46,737 --> 01:12:51,742
your thyroid," um, and from there,
1595
01:12:51,742 --> 01:12:54,327
they found a nodule and they biopsied it
1596
01:12:54,327 --> 01:12:59,542
and found out that it was cancer, um, which was crazy.
1597
01:12:59,542 --> 01:13:01,294
[doctor] You know, thyroid cancer is incredibly common.
1598
01:13:01,294 --> 01:13:04,297
The strategy will be to remove
1599
01:13:04,297 --> 01:13:06,716
the thyroid gland in its entirety,
1600
01:13:06,716 --> 01:13:08,759
uh, to evaluate the lymph nodes
1601
01:13:08,759 --> 01:13:11,846
that are near the thyroid in the operating room.
1602
01:13:11,846 --> 01:13:13,431
[Bridget] I knew I didn't want to just
1603
01:13:13,431 --> 01:13:18,184
like, remove a gland that controls all my hormones,
1604
01:13:18,184 --> 01:13:21,606
so I was thinking of alternatives
1605
01:13:21,606 --> 01:13:24,358
for that treatment, and the first thing
1606
01:13:24,358 --> 01:13:28,112
that I researched and looked into was cannabis oil.
1607
01:13:28,112 --> 01:13:29,864
Some of the reports I read said
1608
01:13:29,864 --> 01:13:31,991
that it, like, caused cancer cells to commit suicide
1609
01:13:31,991 --> 01:13:36,537
while not affecting other normal healthy cells around it.
1610
01:13:36,537 --> 01:13:39,415
As soon as I saw it, it was, it was like a no brainer.
1611
01:13:39,415 --> 01:13:42,585
Like, I would try that because it's not foreign to me.
1612
01:13:42,585 --> 01:13:44,629
As foreign to me as it would have been
1613
01:13:44,629 --> 01:13:47,673
if I hadn't seen my brother and Waldo go through that.
1614
01:13:48,799 --> 01:13:50,468
I know that if I were to tell certain
1615
01:13:50,468 --> 01:13:52,553
friends or family members, that they would...
1616
01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:56,682
have a similar reaction that I did
1617
01:13:56,682 --> 01:13:58,184
initially when my brother told me
1618
01:13:58,184 --> 01:14:00,519
that he was using marijuana, you know?
1619
01:14:00,519 --> 01:14:01,479
Here we go.
1620
01:14:04,941 --> 01:14:05,983
[clicks]
1621
01:14:07,902 --> 01:14:13,824
So, I just, uh, had my first do-- dose of cannabis oil
1622
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:16,619
and I wanted to share it with you. [chuckles]
1623
01:14:17,495 --> 01:14:18,829
I don't feel any different
1624
01:14:18,829 --> 01:14:20,039
and I don't know if I'm supposed to,
1625
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:21,749
but, I, I mean,
1626
01:14:21,749 --> 01:14:23,542
emotionally, I do, I feel hopeful.
1627
01:14:24,627 --> 01:14:26,587
Yeah, I mean, I, I'm doing this
1628
01:14:26,587 --> 01:14:30,132
with the approval of New York State behind me...
1629
01:14:30,132 --> 01:14:33,219
[chuckles] and it still feels kind of weird,
1630
01:14:33,219 --> 01:14:36,430
so I, I give you a lot of credit for...
1631
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:40,518
flying to another state and transporting it yourself.
1632
01:14:40,518 --> 01:14:44,397
Like, that took some, some major balls. [chuckles]
1633
01:14:44,397 --> 01:14:46,732
You know, like, it really did.
1634
01:14:46,732 --> 01:14:50,653
Um, I love you and thank you again
1635
01:14:50,653 --> 01:14:53,364
for helping me take my baby steps.
1636
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,285
That's true, it is, it was your baby that
1637
01:14:58,285 --> 01:15:00,371
helped me take the baby steps. [chuckles]
1638
01:15:00,371 --> 01:15:03,124
[somber music]
1639
01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:31,485
[Staci] There is no question this is
1640
01:15:31,485 --> 01:15:34,071
the most exciting area of medicine
1641
01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:35,489
and research I've ever been involved with
1642
01:15:35,489 --> 01:15:37,825
in my 20 plus years here, and I think
1643
01:15:37,825 --> 01:15:39,618
we're really at the very tip of the iceberg here
1644
01:15:39,618 --> 01:15:41,579
with regard to the potential of cannabis
1645
01:15:41,579 --> 01:15:43,122
and cannabinoid based therapies.
1646
01:15:43,122 --> 01:15:46,500
We now have Epidiolex, approved by the FDA.
1647
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:49,295
FDA just made a historic decision to approve
1648
01:15:49,295 --> 01:15:52,590
the first ever prescription drug made from cannabis.
1649
01:15:52,590 --> 01:15:54,967
Epidiolex is used to treat people
1650
01:15:54,967 --> 01:15:59,180
with severe epilepsy, it just got FDA approval yesterday.
1651
01:15:59,180 --> 01:16:01,098
The Federal Agency is approving
1652
01:16:01,098 --> 01:16:03,267
a medication derived from a drug
1653
01:16:03,267 --> 01:16:05,561
that's still illegal under federal law.
1654
01:16:05,561 --> 01:16:10,566
How can Epidiolex be given to anybody
1655
01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:12,318
if in fact, it's a schedule one substance.
1656
01:16:12,318 --> 01:16:15,196
How can-- the definition of a schedule one substance
1657
01:16:15,196 --> 01:16:18,282
is it has no medical value and high abuse liability
1658
01:16:18,282 --> 01:16:20,034
and no accepted safety profile.
1659
01:16:20,034 --> 01:16:21,494
How can we now say
1660
01:16:21,494 --> 01:16:23,162
that there's no accepted medical value,
1661
01:16:23,162 --> 01:16:25,372
if in fact we have an FDA approved product?
1662
01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:27,875
So, it's, uh, it's an interesting time we're living in.
1663
01:16:27,875 --> 01:16:30,503
[soft music]
1664
01:16:30,503 --> 01:16:33,005
[Charles] The future of medical marijuana is rather vague.
1665
01:16:33,005 --> 01:16:34,965
Uh, there's no doubt there's going to be excitement.
1666
01:16:34,965 --> 01:16:37,301
There's no doubt there are going to be lots of studies,
1667
01:16:37,301 --> 01:16:39,887
but I, I think there's a, a growing appreciation
1668
01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:42,097
for the fact that these natural substances
1669
01:16:42,097 --> 01:16:45,934
may actually have a safe therapeutic effect.
1670
01:16:45,934 --> 01:16:49,063
It's just a matter of trying to figure out how exactly to provide that.
1671
01:16:49,063 --> 01:16:51,607
[soft music]
1672
01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:53,526
[Philip] There's no question that we are entering
1673
01:16:53,526 --> 01:16:56,445
a, a next phase of what we're knowing
1674
01:16:56,445 --> 01:16:58,447
about, not just marijuana in general,
1675
01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:01,116
but some of the specific compounds in marijuana.
1676
01:17:01,116 --> 01:17:03,035
Now we know that there is an effect there.
1677
01:17:03,035 --> 01:17:04,954
Again, the anecdotal evidence suggests
1678
01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:07,164
that we have a situation where
1679
01:17:07,164 --> 01:17:08,833
there is something promising here.
1680
01:17:08,833 --> 01:17:11,335
The question is why, what is that promise?
1681
01:17:11,335 --> 01:17:12,878
Like, what underlies this promise?
1682
01:17:12,878 --> 01:17:14,839
Why does it work, how does it work,
1683
01:17:14,839 --> 01:17:17,341
how much do we need, how do we go from,
1684
01:17:17,341 --> 01:17:19,385
you know, a plant that is commonly
1685
01:17:19,385 --> 01:17:21,804
associated with getting people high
1686
01:17:21,804 --> 01:17:24,306
to something that is com-- hopefully, going to be
1687
01:17:24,306 --> 01:17:26,767
commonly associated with getting people well?
1688
01:17:26,767 --> 01:17:28,727
That's our goal here, we want to know,
1689
01:17:28,727 --> 01:17:31,105
how does this thing work and how do we control it
1690
01:17:31,105 --> 01:17:34,525
to the point where it becomes a really effective medicine?
1691
01:17:34,525 --> 01:17:38,028
To me, that's, you know, kind of the, the Holy Grail
1692
01:17:38,028 --> 01:17:40,406
of biomedical research, is going from
1693
01:17:40,406 --> 01:17:42,825
an observation in the community,
1694
01:17:42,825 --> 01:17:45,202
you know, anecdotal evidence, to an observation
1695
01:17:45,202 --> 01:17:47,121
in the lab, something really interesting,
1696
01:17:47,121 --> 01:17:49,290
but maybe not be clinically significant
1697
01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:51,291
to an observation in people that is
1698
01:17:51,291 --> 01:17:54,044
clinically significant, where now, we can help everyone.
1699
01:17:56,130 --> 01:17:58,591
[Matt] I don't want to be a criminal, but I've been
1700
01:17:58,591 --> 01:18:01,343
forced to over the past 20 years
1701
01:18:01,343 --> 01:18:03,846
because I grow weed and I smoke weed,
1702
01:18:03,846 --> 01:18:06,182
but then there's people who grow weed because they want
1703
01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:09,184
to be criminals, and I'd say that's the majority
1704
01:18:09,184 --> 01:18:11,061
of the old industry.
1705
01:18:11,061 --> 01:18:14,398
But now it's transitioning over to legal grows
1706
01:18:14,398 --> 01:18:16,817
and professionals, which I'm, personally,
1707
01:18:16,817 --> 01:18:19,320
relieved by, because that's what I want it to be.
1708
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,698
It's why I moved to the West Coast, I left all my family and friends to have
1709
01:18:22,698 --> 01:18:24,700
a chance to not be a criminal anymore.
1710
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,996
[Waldo excitedly yelling]
1711
01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:32,750
I'll get you.
1712
01:18:36,670 --> 01:18:40,466
[Danielle] When we met Matt Rize and Jess for the first time,
1713
01:18:40,466 --> 01:18:42,968
like, it felt like we were already connected
1714
01:18:42,968 --> 01:18:44,803
and had so much gratitude.
1715
01:18:45,888 --> 01:18:48,098
Like, we hugged, you know, and embraced
1716
01:18:48,098 --> 01:18:49,600
and, like, there were tears, and they were like,
1717
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,061
looking at Waldo like, "Oh, there he is,"
1718
01:18:52,061 --> 01:18:54,396
you know, and like, when we have spent time with him
1719
01:18:54,396 --> 01:18:57,566
after the first meeting, it's very joyful
1720
01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,777
and, like, there's always lots of food.
1721
01:18:59,777 --> 01:19:01,987
They're very good at preparing food
1722
01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:05,157
and making a home and space that's very welcoming and warm.
1723
01:19:06,742 --> 01:19:08,327
[Matt] I have a lot of patients and I talk to them,
1724
01:19:08,327 --> 01:19:10,371
a lot of them online, but very rarely
1725
01:19:10,371 --> 01:19:12,623
do I get to hang out with them and see them.
1726
01:19:12,623 --> 01:19:15,166
And, and it all comes together then.
1727
01:19:15,166 --> 01:19:16,794
When you're like, "Wow, you had cancer
1728
01:19:16,794 --> 01:19:19,546
and now you're just running around screaming."
1729
01:19:19,546 --> 01:19:22,216
I try to not get emotional about it, but it's hard.
1730
01:19:22,216 --> 01:19:24,635
You know, I wish we could do more.
1731
01:19:24,635 --> 01:19:26,512
[Brian] There's kind of an ongoing joke
1732
01:19:26,512 --> 01:19:29,014
that Matt and I have where, especially,
1733
01:19:29,014 --> 01:19:30,265
the first time I really met him
1734
01:19:30,265 --> 01:19:32,559
and really hadn't spoke much about
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01:19:32,559 --> 01:19:34,228
the significant role that he'd played
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01:19:34,228 --> 01:19:37,064
in my life, and there was this nice gentle moment,
1737
01:19:37,064 --> 01:19:38,732
just like a pause, I was just like,
1738
01:19:38,732 --> 01:19:41,860
"Hey, Matt, thanks for saving my son's life."
1739
01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:44,989
[chuckles] He just laughed and was like, "No problem, buddy."
1740
01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:49,159
-Vegetables? -Yes, please.
1741
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:50,869
No, I don't want vegetables.
1742
01:19:50,869 --> 01:19:52,705
Yes, please, thank you.
1743
01:19:52,705 --> 01:19:56,625
Want to lead it off, Wal-man? Okay, all righty.
1744
01:19:56,625 --> 01:20:00,295
One, two, three, four, five.
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01:20:00,295 --> 01:20:02,965
[all] It's good to be together.
1746
01:20:02,965 --> 01:20:05,384
Yay, hey.
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01:20:05,384 --> 01:20:07,344
-Three, four, five. -Five, six, seven, eight.
1748
01:20:07,344 --> 01:20:08,178
You guys are cute.
1749
01:20:09,596 --> 01:20:11,140
[Danielle] I feel like they're family, like,
1750
01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:13,392
I feel like, uh, they're people that we don't see
1751
01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,812
very often, but when I think of them,
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01:20:16,812 --> 01:20:19,231
like, my heart gets really warm and, like,
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01:20:19,231 --> 01:20:21,942
I am very thankful for them. And, um,
1754
01:20:21,942 --> 01:20:23,777
I feel that we'll know them and be connected
1755
01:20:23,777 --> 01:20:25,946
in that way for the rest of our lives.
1756
01:20:25,946 --> 01:20:28,073
I don't think there's really a word for it.
1757
01:20:28,073 --> 01:20:30,659
Just, like, it's un-describable.
1758
01:20:30,659 --> 01:20:32,786
It's, it's, you can't really...
1759
01:20:35,289 --> 01:20:37,374
There's no definition on...
1760
01:20:41,295 --> 01:20:44,173
just that effect on-- I'm sorry.
1761
01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:50,512
I feel selfish to say that I feel lucky
1762
01:20:50,512 --> 01:20:54,183
that I got to be a part of that, but I do.
1763
01:20:54,183 --> 01:20:56,643
I feel really lucky that we were able to help you guys,
1764
01:20:56,643 --> 01:20:58,812
in a way that we could.
1765
01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:03,817
So, there's not really a, a word that I can describe
1766
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:07,196
how it feels to have a relationship
1767
01:21:07,196 --> 01:21:08,781
with somebody that you...
1768
01:21:11,742 --> 01:21:15,621
I feel like more than helped, but I don't know, keep alive.
1769
01:21:15,621 --> 01:21:19,374
Like, it's, it's-- There's no words...
1770
01:21:21,168 --> 01:21:23,796
unfortunately. [chuckles]
1771
01:21:23,796 --> 01:21:27,591
Thank-- thanks, that's a word I got. Capital T, thanks.
1772
01:21:27,591 --> 01:21:28,842
Yeah.
1773
01:21:29,885 --> 01:21:32,471
[soft guitar]
1774
01:21:34,807 --> 01:21:37,142
♪ Somewhere on the border ♪
1775
01:21:37,142 --> 01:21:40,479
♪ Between here And somewhere else ♪
1776
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,815
♪ There is some peace of mind ♪
1777
01:21:42,815 --> 01:21:45,359
♪ Just looking to be held ♪
1778
01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:47,611
♪ Buried underneath the smoke ♪
1779
01:21:47,611 --> 01:21:50,489
♪ It's starting to get clear ♪
1780
01:21:50,489 --> 01:21:52,282
♪ The war is never over ♪
1781
01:21:52,282 --> 01:21:54,660
♪ Even when the light is near ♪
1782
01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:59,373
♪ After all, there's Still just endless love ♪
1783
01:22:01,250 --> 01:22:05,087
♪ Moving against The winds of time ♪
1784
01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:10,175
♪ Back from the nights In the storm ♪
1785
01:22:11,135 --> 01:22:15,722
♪ Into the days of before ♪
1786
01:22:17,015 --> 01:22:18,809
[Brian] He doesn't seem to carry some dark memory
1787
01:22:18,809 --> 01:22:22,479
of those times, he's always been a happy kid.
1788
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,523
[Danielle] I think it was more trauma for us though.
1789
01:22:25,732 --> 01:22:27,985
Feel like I'm a different person.
1790
01:22:29,903 --> 01:22:33,157
I feel changed, but not scarred.
1791
01:22:33,157 --> 01:22:35,868
No, I definitely feel stronger on the other side.
1792
01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:39,329
[soft guitar]
1793
01:22:39,329 --> 01:22:41,123
[Brian] Waldo's cancer and the journey
1794
01:22:41,123 --> 01:22:43,834
that it took us on, what seemed really dark
1795
01:22:43,834 --> 01:22:46,003
at the time or something that might be tragic,
1796
01:22:46,003 --> 01:22:47,671
it ended up being an incredible teacher.
1797
01:22:47,671 --> 01:22:49,298
Having gone through something that was
1798
01:22:49,298 --> 01:22:51,717
really, pretty hard for us, coming out
1799
01:22:51,717 --> 01:22:54,094
the other side and seeing where we are.
1800
01:22:54,094 --> 01:22:55,304
I mean, how could I be upset?
1801
01:22:57,139 --> 01:23:00,559
-[Waldo] Come back here! -[Danielle] I feel I really feel the difference.
1802
01:23:00,559 --> 01:23:02,644
Like, you don't know how bright a light is
1803
01:23:02,644 --> 01:23:04,980
if you haven't been in the dark. So I feel,
1804
01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,607
definitely, like, on this other side
1805
01:23:06,607 --> 01:23:08,942
I'm like, ah, so thankful to be here, you know?
1806
01:23:08,942 --> 01:23:11,068
Whereas before, maybe I wouldn't have
1807
01:23:11,068 --> 01:23:13,113
known the difference because
1808
01:23:13,113 --> 01:23:15,115
I hadn't gone through such a hard thing before.
1809
01:23:20,704 --> 01:23:23,415
[sighs] Waldo, I mean, he's just, he's been
1810
01:23:23,415 --> 01:23:24,750
kind of guiding us the whole way.
1811
01:23:24,750 --> 01:23:26,585
[Waldo laughs]
1812
01:23:28,504 --> 01:23:30,714
He's been showing us ourselves.
1813
01:23:30,714 --> 01:23:31,924
I'm the best version of myself
1814
01:23:31,924 --> 01:23:34,843
I've yet to know because of Waldo.
1815
01:23:34,843 --> 01:23:38,555
Because of the journey he's taken us on, I trust that.
1816
01:23:38,555 --> 01:23:40,432
[soft guitar]
1817
01:24:01,036 --> 01:24:03,830
[soft music]
1818
01:24:22,516 --> 01:24:26,937
♪ When I meet you Going to call you by name ♪
1819
01:24:26,937 --> 01:24:31,567
♪ Call you by name Call you by name ♪
1820
01:24:31,567 --> 01:24:35,862
♪ Make it the chorus A verse or refrain ♪
1821
01:24:35,862 --> 01:24:40,576
♪ One in the same It will be your name ♪
1822
01:24:43,870 --> 01:24:48,208
♪ I really Wonder who you might be ♪
1823
01:24:48,208 --> 01:24:53,005
♪ But whoever you are Will be all right with me ♪
1824
01:24:53,005 --> 01:24:57,134
♪ Okey dokey and doo wah dee ♪
1825
01:24:57,134 --> 01:24:59,761
♪ I'm waiting for you ♪
1826
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:04,891
♪ You're coming to me ♪
1827
01:25:04,891 --> 01:25:07,352
[soft music]
1828
01:25:23,327 --> 01:25:27,748
♪ Steady heartbeat It's right in time ♪
1829
01:25:27,748 --> 01:25:32,794
♪ And right in line With yours is mine ♪
1830
01:25:32,794 --> 01:25:36,965
♪ Double dare you And double dutch ♪
1831
01:25:36,965 --> 01:25:41,511
♪ Skip to my Lou I love you so much ♪
1832
01:26:00,572 --> 01:26:04,117
♪ Call you Call you, call you by ♪
1833
01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:09,081
♪ Call you Call you, call you by ♪
1834
01:26:10,248 --> 01:26:13,710
♪ Call you Call you, call you by ♪
1835
01:26:14,961 --> 01:26:18,590
♪ Call you Call you, call you by ♪
1836
01:26:19,841 --> 01:26:23,303
♪ Call you Call you, call you by ♪
1837
01:26:24,721 --> 01:26:29,226
♪ Call you Call you, call you by ♪
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