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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,503 --> 00:00:13,430 ♪ 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:26,443 --> 00:00:30,405 I’m about to read a letter from my son that he wrote me. 5 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:32,073 ♪ 6 00:00:32,073 --> 00:00:34,618 And it says, "This is from me to you. 7 00:00:34,618 --> 00:00:38,455 I will finally have my high school graduation 8 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:41,833 September the 15th this year. 9 00:00:41,833 --> 00:00:45,003 I will take some pictures and send them. 10 00:00:45,003 --> 00:00:46,713 I really do miss you 11 00:00:46,713 --> 00:00:50,008 and promise to take good care of you 12 00:00:50,008 --> 00:00:53,470 for everything when I come home." 13 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:56,640 ♪ 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,060 They came to my house and got him. 15 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:02,771 So, that was, um, 16 00:01:02,771 --> 00:01:05,816 that was like 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning. 17 00:01:05,816 --> 00:01:07,359 So, the next day, 18 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,655 I went down there to the courthouse, 19 00:01:11,655 --> 00:01:14,700 and I don’t remember who this lady was, 20 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:18,203 but she came to me and told me, "You know, 21 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:23,166 your son looking to serve life in prison." 22 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:26,753 So, I said, "What did he do?" 23 00:01:26,753 --> 00:01:30,048 And, so, she said, "The third strike." 24 00:01:30,048 --> 00:01:31,341 ♪ 25 00:01:31,341 --> 00:01:33,551 My dad has always been a leader. 26 00:01:33,551 --> 00:01:35,971 He’s done a lot for the people, 27 00:01:35,971 --> 00:01:40,142 even when he was free and out before he was incarcerated. 28 00:01:40,142 --> 00:01:43,312 My dad, to a certain degree, was, you know, even involved 29 00:01:43,312 --> 00:01:45,396 in the political world. 30 00:01:45,396 --> 00:01:47,274 ♪ 31 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:48,817 He does not deserve this. 32 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:51,945 He deserves to be home with his family. 33 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:54,323 I’ve been a Cook County sheriff’s deputy 34 00:01:54,323 --> 00:01:57,451 for the last 17 years. 35 00:01:57,451 --> 00:02:01,872 I have a brother who has been incarcerated 36 00:02:01,872 --> 00:02:03,957 and in the... 37 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:05,625 ...the worst forms of incarceration, 38 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:09,880 myself being in that-- in that industry, uh, 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,301 we’re talking about a person that’s never been violent, 40 00:02:14,301 --> 00:02:18,180 doesn’t have a long rap sheet, never killed anybody, 41 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:20,640 yet he’s serving a life sentence 42 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:23,602 in the federal penitentiary system. 43 00:02:23,602 --> 00:02:25,395 So I stepped out 44 00:02:25,395 --> 00:02:28,065 against my own Republican administration 45 00:02:28,065 --> 00:02:30,901 and said openly on the floor of the Senate 46 00:02:30,901 --> 00:02:34,112 that I believe these crack cocaine laws 47 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:36,531 were too harsh with-- and particularly, 48 00:02:36,531 --> 00:02:38,742 it was disadvantageous 49 00:02:38,742 --> 00:02:40,702 to the African American community 50 00:02:40,702 --> 00:02:42,996 where most of the punishments were falling, 51 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:46,208 and it was not fair, and we ought to fix it. 52 00:02:46,208 --> 00:02:48,543 I want an attorney general who is committed 53 00:02:48,543 --> 00:02:51,630 to supporting law enforcement and securing law and order, 54 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:53,799 but that is not enough. 55 00:02:53,799 --> 00:02:57,177 The justice system, as it stands now, is biased 56 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:59,971 against the poor, against drug-addicted, 57 00:02:59,971 --> 00:03:04,017 against mentally ill, and against people of color. 58 00:03:04,017 --> 00:03:05,352 ♪ 59 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:08,605 And I used to say, um, 60 00:03:08,605 --> 00:03:10,899 "How are you gonna get life," you know? 61 00:03:10,899 --> 00:03:13,777 He--he ain’t murdered no one. 62 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:17,948 People that murder people don’t even get life. 63 00:03:17,948 --> 00:03:19,950 You know, so... 64 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:21,493 ♪ 65 00:03:21,493 --> 00:03:25,329 Um, I just took it one day at a time, 66 00:03:25,329 --> 00:03:28,041 because, uh, 67 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:31,920 twenty-two years is a long time. 68 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:41,847 ♪ 69 00:03:53,692 --> 00:03:56,236 In the year 1994, 70 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,448 at the age of 24, 71 00:03:59,448 --> 00:04:02,868 Alton Mills was given 72 00:04:02,868 --> 00:04:06,079 a mandatory life sentence 73 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:08,331 without parole 74 00:04:08,331 --> 00:04:11,585 for a low-level, non-violent drug offense. 75 00:04:11,585 --> 00:04:14,921 I ended up being contacted by his public defender. 76 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:17,382 She has this wonderful name. 77 00:04:17,382 --> 00:04:21,303 She’s from Chicago, her name is MiAngel Cody. 78 00:04:21,303 --> 00:04:23,346 MiAngel Cody contacted me 79 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:24,639 and told me Alton Mills’ story, 80 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:27,517 how this kid growing up in Chicago, 81 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:30,312 decent kid in high school, made a bad turn, 82 00:04:30,312 --> 00:04:32,355 got mixed up with a drug gang, 83 00:04:32,355 --> 00:04:34,274 was a sales runner on the street, 84 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,276 just the lowest possible level, 85 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:39,362 and on the third offense got a life sentence 86 00:04:39,362 --> 00:04:42,532 to spend the rest of his life in prison. 87 00:04:42,532 --> 00:04:44,743 I asked President Obama to take a look at this 88 00:04:44,743 --> 00:04:48,705 and consider commutation, and on December 2015, 89 00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:51,457 after serving 22 years in prison, 90 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:54,419 Alton Mills came home to Chicago. 91 00:04:54,419 --> 00:04:57,005 It started out I was doing activism work 92 00:04:57,005 --> 00:04:59,132 in New Orleans, 93 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:00,717 particularly around the death penalty. 94 00:05:00,717 --> 00:05:03,887 So, for about seven years, 95 00:05:03,887 --> 00:05:06,765 I worked with capital defense lawyers. 96 00:05:06,765 --> 00:05:11,895 I think I went to death row the first time when I was 19 97 00:05:11,895 --> 00:05:14,272 to visit someone in Angola, 98 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:16,525 and that was like the first time 99 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:19,152 I had ever gone behind the curtain 100 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,696 of the Wizard of Oz and really just saw 101 00:05:21,696 --> 00:05:24,449 what America says are the worst of the worst, 102 00:05:24,449 --> 00:05:27,452 um, and realized there are human beings 103 00:05:27,452 --> 00:05:30,914 at the heart of these cases that you hear about. 104 00:05:30,914 --> 00:05:36,419 ♪ 105 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:38,630 So, welcome to TDC. 106 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:42,008 This is where the magic happens. 107 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:45,804 LaSheda was my best friend in elementary school. 108 00:05:45,804 --> 00:05:48,390 Best friends, we’re both from the West Side of Chicago, 109 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:50,433 grew up together. 110 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:53,770 And my family was very well known 111 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:56,898 in our neighborhood and especially at our school. 112 00:05:56,898 --> 00:05:59,734 Like, the administrators all knew who we were, 113 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:02,070 you know, so I was very popular. 114 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:05,532 I was very popular. I had, like, five, six cousins 115 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:07,492 in the same grade as me. 116 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:09,619 But, you know, the older you get... 117 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:11,746 It was third grade. 118 00:06:11,746 --> 00:06:13,290 This is what’s happening. 119 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:15,750 She started hanging out with other people, 120 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:17,586 leaving me behind. 121 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:19,170 She tried to make friends with other people, 122 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:20,922 like, make them her best friends, 123 00:06:20,922 --> 00:06:24,134 and as a child, best friends, that’s a real thing. 124 00:06:24,134 --> 00:06:26,720 Like, you don’t just be naming everybody your best friend. 125 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,221 You take that serious. 126 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:31,266 After that, no more best friends. 127 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:32,808 We did not say a word to each other. 128 00:06:32,808 --> 00:06:37,439 I never saw her again until TDC Law Firm. 129 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:40,650 I just keep going back to the day MiAngel was like, 130 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:42,277 "Yeah, you know, we’re gonna have an intern coming. 131 00:06:42,277 --> 00:06:43,570 Yeah, her name is LaSheda." 132 00:06:43,570 --> 00:06:45,780 I was like, "LaSheda? 133 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:47,657 Of all the girl names, LaSheda would pop up." 134 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:49,868 That’s exactly how I said it. 135 00:06:49,868 --> 00:06:52,162 So, then, I’m looking at her like, "Whoa, 136 00:06:52,162 --> 00:06:55,624 like, you’re in the military, you went to law school." 137 00:06:55,624 --> 00:06:58,043 Like, I have so much admiration 138 00:06:58,043 --> 00:07:00,462 and respect for you right now that it’s kind of weird 139 00:07:00,462 --> 00:07:02,380 ’cause I thought for sure I would not like you 140 00:07:02,380 --> 00:07:03,840 for the rest of my life. 141 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,885 And I was like, "Dang, she out here freeing people. 142 00:07:06,885 --> 00:07:08,553 Like, she’s so amazing." 143 00:07:08,553 --> 00:07:10,597 I’m like, "She’s like this Chicago activist. 144 00:07:10,597 --> 00:07:12,307 She’s giving back to the community." 145 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:15,060 This is Black history that we are making. 146 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:18,271 We are Black history, it’s in the making. 147 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:21,358 Even if we don’t, our story is gonna make it! 148 00:07:21,358 --> 00:07:23,735 Mm, that’s right! 149 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:25,945 Are you guys friends now, would you say? 150 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:26,988 This is one of my best friends. 151 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:28,698 Yes, we are! 152 00:07:28,698 --> 00:07:32,327 Ooh. 153 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:44,214 I think I know this by heart. 154 00:07:44,214 --> 00:07:45,548 Thank you, Verizon. 155 00:07:45,548 --> 00:07:49,010 To hear us, you may start the conversation now. 156 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:51,596 -Hello? -Hey, how are you doing? 157 00:07:51,596 --> 00:07:54,474 Hi, Dad! 158 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:56,433 -What you doing? -So we’re being recorded, 159 00:07:56,433 --> 00:07:59,854 so you can’t say anything crazy. 160 00:07:59,854 --> 00:08:02,107 So, you remember the law firm I was working at 161 00:08:02,107 --> 00:08:05,235 and the client I told you we got out? 162 00:08:05,235 --> 00:08:06,903 -Yeah. -So, right now, 163 00:08:06,903 --> 00:08:09,239 we’re actually recording a documentary 164 00:08:09,239 --> 00:08:11,950 regarding her work and how she always gets people 165 00:08:11,950 --> 00:08:15,036 off the life sentences from their drug sentence. 166 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:16,746 So we’re being recorded right now, 167 00:08:16,746 --> 00:08:20,667 and I told them about you yesterday. 168 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:23,628 And now I’m here, and you ironically called 169 00:08:23,628 --> 00:08:25,505 during the time we were filming. 170 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:35,974 -Why not? -So... 171 00:08:42,105 --> 00:08:44,399 So when are they moving you? 172 00:08:54,242 --> 00:08:58,121 I think he’s feeling the distance. 173 00:08:58,121 --> 00:09:00,957 Like, he’s feeling like I’m leaving him behind 174 00:09:00,957 --> 00:09:03,835 because now I’m, like, starting my life. 175 00:09:03,835 --> 00:09:05,879 And I feel it in his voice. 176 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:10,675 We went to see him last week, and I felt it. 177 00:09:10,675 --> 00:09:15,722 And he’s put in every type of appeal he can. 178 00:09:15,722 --> 00:09:19,434 In 2015, he had a little bit of luck. 179 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:23,104 With him being--he was 17 when he was sentenced to life. 180 00:09:23,104 --> 00:09:26,316 And the Illinois public court said, like, 181 00:09:26,316 --> 00:09:28,651 he was too young to understand 182 00:09:28,651 --> 00:09:30,987 everything that was going on to receive the sentence. 183 00:09:30,987 --> 00:09:32,614 But, then, this year, the Supreme Court 184 00:09:32,614 --> 00:09:34,783 sent it back, like, no. 185 00:09:34,783 --> 00:09:40,580 ♪ 186 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:43,625 I’m a daughter of formally incarcerated people. 187 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:46,503 I’m a sister of a currently incarcerated brother. 188 00:09:46,503 --> 00:09:48,171 I want to do something for the women 189 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:50,632 who are the backbones of these communities. 190 00:09:50,632 --> 00:09:53,802 I had reached out to MiAngel about helping, 191 00:09:53,802 --> 00:09:55,553 and she was like, "Well, let’s do it." 192 00:09:55,553 --> 00:09:57,347 Every step of the way she was like, 193 00:09:57,347 --> 00:09:59,474 "What do you want to do?" 194 00:09:59,474 --> 00:10:01,017 I tell her what I want to do, 195 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:04,687 and she just supported me in making it happen. 196 00:10:04,687 --> 00:10:14,614 ♪ 197 00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:20,620 So, once I started working with her 198 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:23,748 and she would talk to me, like, beyond the cases, 199 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:24,999 it blew my mind. 200 00:10:24,999 --> 00:10:28,044 She would share her personal situation. 201 00:10:28,044 --> 00:10:30,088 So when she shared, like, her father 202 00:10:30,088 --> 00:10:33,550 being in and out of prison, I was shocked. 203 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:36,010 And it helped me because I’ve had to be 204 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:38,555 a certain way to be a successful lawyer. 205 00:10:38,555 --> 00:10:39,848 Like, for people to take me serious, 206 00:10:39,848 --> 00:10:42,016 I have to be this way. 207 00:10:42,016 --> 00:10:43,768 And to know that she’s the person 208 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:46,521 that I idolize, but her father has been 209 00:10:46,521 --> 00:10:50,066 in and out of prison, I feel so comfortable. 210 00:10:50,066 --> 00:10:51,860 And it gave me confidence to know 211 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:55,446 that I can be comfortable that my father is in prison, 212 00:10:55,446 --> 00:10:58,616 but I’m still a lawyer, but I’m still in the military. 213 00:10:58,616 --> 00:11:01,828 I’m still doing these things, but my father is in prison. 214 00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:03,538 And I was so glad when she said it 215 00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:08,209 ’cause it just made me feel accepted. 216 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:11,629 It made me feel like it’s okay. 217 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:16,426 I started writing my first clemency petition in 2012. 218 00:11:16,426 --> 00:11:18,636 And at that point, President Obama had 219 00:11:18,636 --> 00:11:20,972 never granted a clemency before. 220 00:11:20,972 --> 00:11:25,184 There were plenty of people who told me specifically, 221 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:26,561 "He’s never gonna grant this. 222 00:11:26,561 --> 00:11:28,354 It’s never gonna happen." 223 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:32,483 But I just felt like my clients’ stories 224 00:11:32,483 --> 00:11:35,737 deserve being told on an individual-- 225 00:11:35,737 --> 00:11:37,739 in a nuanced way, 226 00:11:37,739 --> 00:11:40,491 and not only for them, but for each one of us 227 00:11:40,491 --> 00:11:42,285 to have to wrestle with the facts, 228 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:44,746 like, have to wrestle with the reality 229 00:11:44,746 --> 00:11:46,205 of this person’s life. 230 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:48,499 You don’t get to just put someone in prison for life 231 00:11:48,499 --> 00:11:50,335 and not listen to who they are. 232 00:11:50,335 --> 00:11:52,754 And that started this clemency process 233 00:11:52,754 --> 00:11:57,342 that later was formulized into looking at hundreds of-- 234 00:11:57,342 --> 00:11:59,302 there are thousands of petitions. 235 00:11:59,302 --> 00:12:01,262 But I think that that’s really important 236 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:04,849 is to just do the work, center the clients, 237 00:12:04,849 --> 00:12:07,894 center the stories, center who they are, 238 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:11,564 and create a public conversation. 239 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:12,857 ♪ 240 00:12:12,857 --> 00:12:14,901 My name is Vanessa Rosa. 241 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:16,402 My dad is Ismael Rosa, 242 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:18,446 and he’s currently in Pekin, Illinois. 243 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:21,658 He is serving a life sentence 244 00:12:21,658 --> 00:12:24,410 in a federal correction institute. 245 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:34,337 ♪ 246 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:46,849 I was 18 247 00:12:46,849 --> 00:12:49,560 when my father was arrested. 248 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,855 It’s very hard to speak about that day. 249 00:12:52,855 --> 00:12:56,192 When I heard the judge say, you know, "life in prison," 250 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:58,528 my reaction, I kind of... 251 00:12:58,528 --> 00:13:00,363 ♪ 252 00:13:00,363 --> 00:13:02,949 ...cried out, and he heard me, 253 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:04,450 and he turned around and he glimpsed at me, 254 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:08,454 and when he glimpsed and looked my way 255 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:09,998 and we made eye contact, 256 00:13:09,998 --> 00:13:14,961 um, there was so much pain there 257 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:19,757 because I knew that he was being stripped from us. 258 00:13:19,757 --> 00:13:22,552 Almost as if he was... 259 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:25,555 ...dying, you know, in a sense 260 00:13:25,555 --> 00:13:27,473 or he wasn’t gonna be there anymore. 261 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:29,225 I think a lot of people don’t understand the way 262 00:13:29,225 --> 00:13:30,685 the Three Strikes law works, 263 00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:33,021 and a lot of people don’t understand the way 264 00:13:33,021 --> 00:13:34,605 it was intended to work. 265 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:37,692 So, the way it was intended to work is to punish 266 00:13:37,692 --> 00:13:39,944 the worst of the worst drug offenders, 267 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:43,197 the repeat recidivist who kept getting in trouble, 268 00:13:43,197 --> 00:13:47,493 who’d been to prison, got out, and continued to sell drugs. 269 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:49,370 So the law was enacted to make sure 270 00:13:49,370 --> 00:13:51,372 that those people were 271 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:53,332 permanently incapacitated, right? 272 00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:55,793 So the similarly dangerous drug offenders 273 00:13:55,793 --> 00:13:58,296 got similarly harsh punishments. 274 00:13:58,296 --> 00:13:59,839 But what has happened 275 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,924 is it hasn’t been implemented that way. 276 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:05,219 So you might have someone who had their first strike 277 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:09,348 was possession of marijuana back in the 1980s. 278 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:12,226 Their second strike was possession of cocaine, 279 00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:14,270 a personal use amount of cocaine 280 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:16,022 back in the 1990s. 281 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:18,608 And then they get a federal case 282 00:14:18,608 --> 00:14:20,735 and that’s their third strike. 283 00:14:20,735 --> 00:14:22,361 So that person may have never even been 284 00:14:22,361 --> 00:14:23,446 to prison before. 285 00:14:23,446 --> 00:14:25,323 They may have had probation, 286 00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:27,408 they may have successfully completed probation, 287 00:14:27,408 --> 00:14:30,369 but those two prior drug convictions 288 00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:33,623 can be used by a prosecutor to rationalize 289 00:14:33,623 --> 00:14:36,042 a mandatory federal life sentence. 290 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:39,087 ♪ 291 00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:41,964 Senator Sessions, you said of President Obama’s pardoning 292 00:14:41,964 --> 00:14:44,717 of people like Alton Mills, and I quote: 293 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:48,638 "President Obama continues to abuse executive power 294 00:14:48,638 --> 00:14:51,265 in an unprecedented, reckless manner 295 00:14:51,265 --> 00:14:54,352 to systematically release high-level drug traffickers 296 00:14:54,352 --> 00:14:56,687 and firearms felons. 297 00:14:56,687 --> 00:14:59,774 So-called low-level, non-violent offenders 298 00:14:59,774 --> 00:15:01,234 simply do not exist 299 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:04,153 in the federal system," you said. 300 00:15:04,153 --> 00:15:06,906 Senator Sessions, Alton Mills and many more 301 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:09,575 just like him do exist. 302 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:11,911 So if you refuse to even acknowledge 303 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:15,748 the fundamental injustice of many of our sentencing laws, 304 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:18,292 why should you be entrusted with the most important 305 00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:22,046 criminal prosecution office in America? 306 00:15:22,046 --> 00:15:24,132 It’s a hard situation 307 00:15:24,132 --> 00:15:27,009 because two things are gonna happen 308 00:15:27,009 --> 00:15:28,636 when you go to prison: 309 00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,264 either you’re gonna make it or you ain’t. 310 00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:36,394 You have to be a very strong individual 311 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:40,314 to put up with the madness that goes inside. 312 00:15:40,314 --> 00:15:44,652 It’s a lot that we have to go through 313 00:15:44,652 --> 00:15:47,321 on this side of the world. 314 00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:50,950 The air is different, the food is different. 315 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,451 ♪ 316 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:55,329 It’s nothing like being free. 317 00:15:55,329 --> 00:15:59,876 The criminological field is just filled 318 00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:02,587 with theories as to, one, 319 00:16:02,587 --> 00:16:04,255 what causes crime, and, then, 320 00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:05,923 how do we address that crime? 321 00:16:05,923 --> 00:16:08,426 And no two criminologists 322 00:16:08,426 --> 00:16:11,387 will agree on those theories. 323 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:13,472 So one has to be very careful of that. 324 00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:16,893 So, probably the bigger question is, 325 00:16:16,893 --> 00:16:20,980 is three strikes or minimum mandatory sentencing 326 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:24,859 a panacea for the crime problem 327 00:16:24,859 --> 00:16:26,652 in the United States? 328 00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,362 And it depends on who you ask. 329 00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:29,989 Politicians will use it 330 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,450 as an advantage to scare people. 331 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:34,911 People are easily frightened by stories 332 00:16:34,911 --> 00:16:38,247 about crime and violence, but, yet, 333 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,624 when we think about 334 00:16:39,624 --> 00:16:43,169 minimum mandatory sentencing as a fix, 335 00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:46,297 one has to be careful of fixing what? 336 00:16:46,297 --> 00:16:50,968 From a practical standpoint, it has not reduced drug use, 337 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,012 it hasn’t reduced drug trafficking 338 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,139 or the amount of drugs in this country. 339 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:59,894 If anything, it has done only a service 340 00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:03,689 of warehousing people who are associated with drugs, 341 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:06,525 who are disproportionately African American 342 00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:10,029 and disproportionately poor people. 343 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:13,406 The question is, what do we do with this? 344 00:17:13,406 --> 00:17:15,952 ♪ 345 00:17:15,952 --> 00:17:18,746 It’s been hard on my siblings. 346 00:17:18,746 --> 00:17:20,705 I think it’s been harder for them, 347 00:17:20,705 --> 00:17:23,876 especially my little sister because she only had my dad 348 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:27,088 for the first five, six years of her life. 349 00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:29,131 It’s been hard for her. 350 00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:31,676 She didn’t have him like I did. 351 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:34,178 And that, that hurts. 352 00:17:34,178 --> 00:17:36,722 When Ismael took custody of his children, 353 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:39,725 men were not being awarded custody. 354 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:43,854 You know, he really had to be a stand-up model 355 00:17:43,854 --> 00:17:45,982 before the judge to win custody 356 00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:47,191 of his children back then. 357 00:17:47,191 --> 00:17:49,652 It was just unheard of. 358 00:17:49,652 --> 00:17:52,113 I know that a lot of us, 359 00:17:52,113 --> 00:17:55,533 um, if we had our dad, 360 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:58,619 then we would have made better decisions as adults. 361 00:17:58,619 --> 00:18:01,580 It’s different, it’s very different. 362 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:03,916 And it’s made things harder 363 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:08,004 because, you know, you’re alone. 364 00:18:08,004 --> 00:18:09,463 No matter what, you’re alone. 365 00:18:09,463 --> 00:18:11,716 Many people don’t realize that parole 366 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:15,303 in the federal system was abolished in the 1980s 367 00:18:15,303 --> 00:18:18,389 right during the height of the War on Drugs. 368 00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,057 That is also the time when they abolished 369 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:21,434 the federal parole. 370 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,602 So, when a judge looks at you and says 371 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:25,521 that you’ll receive a life sentence, 372 00:18:25,521 --> 00:18:27,148 that means you will die in prison. 373 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:28,774 It’s death by imprisonment. 374 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:31,027 There is no ability to get out of that. 375 00:18:31,027 --> 00:18:33,112 It’s not like in state court where there’s parole, 376 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:36,240 you do 25 years, you go before a parole board 377 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,825 and that parole board looks at you, 378 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:40,411 looks at your rehabilitation in prison and says, 379 00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:42,121 "Okay, you’ve learned your lesson." 380 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:43,748 And that’s one of the sad realities 381 00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:45,875 of federal prison is that there’s no board 382 00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:48,044 who can look at you after 25 years, 383 00:18:48,044 --> 00:18:51,130 see strides in rehabilitation, and release you. 384 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,549 ♪ 385 00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:57,887 We have 5,000 prisoners sitting in federal prison, 386 00:18:57,887 --> 00:19:00,348 still there, and all I’ve asked, 387 00:19:00,348 --> 00:19:04,393 allow them as individuals to petition to the judge, 388 00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:07,396 to the prosecutor, to the Department of Justice 389 00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:09,607 so that their sentences can be considered. 390 00:19:09,607 --> 00:19:11,734 That--that’s something you’ve opposed. 391 00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:14,820 So, in fairness, tell me why you still oppose that. 392 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:19,575 I understood the sincere belief you had on that issue, 393 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:21,410 and it was a difficult call, 394 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:23,996 and that’s why we really never worked it out. 395 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:26,832 So I understand what you’re saying, 396 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:31,837 but I did believe that you are upsetting 397 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:33,923 finality in the justice system, 398 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:37,635 that you are suggesting 399 00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:41,430 that these kind of factors were not considered 400 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,391 when the plea bargaining went down. 401 00:19:43,391 --> 00:19:45,601 So it’s an honorable debate to have, 402 00:19:45,601 --> 00:19:47,812 and I respect your position on it. 403 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:52,900 ♪ 404 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:57,738 The first time I tried cocaine, I was 17, at a park... 405 00:19:57,738 --> 00:19:59,115 ♪ 406 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:02,118 ...hanging out with some of my friends. 407 00:20:02,118 --> 00:20:03,577 I was introduced to it 408 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:07,248 by my friend Dink’s older brother. 409 00:20:07,248 --> 00:20:08,833 ♪ 410 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:12,670 And the feeling was kind of surreal. 411 00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:14,338 ♪ 412 00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:17,049 It’s a feeling that you’re always chasing 413 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:19,385 that first high. 414 00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:23,305 It makes you feel like you don’t have any worries 415 00:20:23,305 --> 00:20:25,015 or any cares. 416 00:20:25,015 --> 00:20:28,853 You’re just in that moment, 417 00:20:28,853 --> 00:20:32,857 and everything just seems easy. 418 00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:36,277 You know, life is whatever you may be stressed about 419 00:20:36,277 --> 00:20:40,698 or worried about, it just goes away, 420 00:20:40,698 --> 00:20:44,368 just feel that ease and at peace with yourself. 421 00:20:44,368 --> 00:20:54,295 ♪ 422 00:21:16,734 --> 00:21:20,779 I think one thing that makes this work 423 00:21:20,779 --> 00:21:22,573 whole and necessary 424 00:21:22,573 --> 00:21:25,868 is looking at who is the human being 425 00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:28,204 at the heart of each one of these cases. 426 00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:31,499 And when we have a system that formulaically 427 00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:35,211 rubber-stamps sentences for life onto people, 428 00:21:35,211 --> 00:21:37,630 what happens is, the judge doesn’t get to consider 429 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,173 who is that person? 430 00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:40,424 Where did they come from? 431 00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:42,009 What is their story of struggle? 432 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:43,802 Were they homeless? Were they addicted? 433 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:45,095 Did they have addicted parents? 434 00:21:45,095 --> 00:21:46,514 Are they literate? 435 00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:48,182 What was the level of education that they have? 436 00:21:48,182 --> 00:21:49,558 What kind of healthcare? 437 00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:51,977 What kind of mental health illnesses do they have? 438 00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:54,188 All of that gets wiped away 439 00:21:54,188 --> 00:21:56,273 when you have a mandatory sentence. 440 00:21:56,273 --> 00:21:58,692 None of that gets to play into the calculus 441 00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:00,861 of the punishment that they receive. 442 00:22:00,861 --> 00:22:04,448 And the problem with that is, all of that is relevant 443 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:07,493 to how they ended up in court in the first place. 444 00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:09,286 And, so, people walk into court 445 00:22:09,286 --> 00:22:11,664 with their entire history of who they are, 446 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:14,291 their life, their parents, their upbringing, 447 00:22:14,291 --> 00:22:17,169 and they have to leave all of that at the door 448 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:18,379 at sentencing. 449 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:24,343 ♪ 450 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:25,553 Jeff Sessions, 451 00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:27,096 the Attorney General of the United States, 452 00:22:27,096 --> 00:22:29,098 has submitted his letter of resignation. 453 00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:31,267 We understand that the president asked 454 00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,519 for Sessions’ resignation this morning. 455 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:36,355 The letter from Jeff Sessions starts off saying, 456 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:38,566 "In response to your request from this morning, 457 00:22:38,566 --> 00:22:40,484 I hereby submit my resignation." 458 00:22:42,111 --> 00:22:44,530 ♪ 459 00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:51,370 ♪ 460 00:23:35,205 --> 00:23:37,458 The first time I really recognized 461 00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:42,379 that my son was facing this sentence was when... 462 00:23:42,379 --> 00:23:43,797 ♪ 463 00:23:43,797 --> 00:23:46,842 ...I went to court on the last court date 464 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:49,386 because I didn’t think it was that serious, 465 00:23:49,386 --> 00:23:52,014 and I never went to court with him. 466 00:23:52,014 --> 00:23:54,767 I didn’t take off of work or anything and go to court 467 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:58,020 because I didn’t think my son had been a person that-- 468 00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:01,940 I never had to go get him out of trouble. 469 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,776 And he was 40 years old, 470 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:07,655 and I had never been to jail to get him out of anything. 471 00:24:07,655 --> 00:24:10,115 And this was so confusing to me. 472 00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:11,700 My son could’ve took the ten years 473 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,036 if he thought it was that serious, 474 00:24:14,036 --> 00:24:15,454 but he didn’t take it. 475 00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:16,830 He said, "No, I didn’t do anything, 476 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:20,000 and I’m not taking the ten years." 477 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,961 We’re not thinking they’re gonna give him no life 478 00:24:22,961 --> 00:24:26,256 because he didn’t take the ten years they offered him. 479 00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:28,258 If you’re offered a plea negotiation, 480 00:24:28,258 --> 00:24:33,305 which is usually a reduced number of years or sentence, 481 00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:35,140 and if you turn that down, 482 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:38,560 the prosecutors will usually withdraw that deal, 483 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,978 basically saying, "Okay, no more. 484 00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:41,355 You don’t want this deal? 485 00:24:41,355 --> 00:24:43,148 Okay, great, it’s off the table." 486 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,526 And, now, if you go to trial, 487 00:24:45,526 --> 00:24:48,237 what can happen is if you’re found guilty, 488 00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:51,865 you can be sentenced at a higher rate. 489 00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:53,867 Now that doesn’t mean that it’s automatic, 490 00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:56,328 but it’s what they refer to as a trial tax. 491 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:59,915 I recently found out my dad had a life sentence. 492 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:02,251 For years, like, my dad’s been in prison, 493 00:25:02,251 --> 00:25:03,919 but I’ve never heard those words 494 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,546 come out of his mouth. 495 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:07,923 Never. And still till today he does not say them. 496 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:09,967 He’s never said them to me. 497 00:25:09,967 --> 00:25:12,219 I only know now because I’m learning more 498 00:25:12,219 --> 00:25:14,096 about his case. 499 00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:17,141 When someone gets sent to prison, 500 00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:19,893 you are not just incarcerating one person. 501 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:23,021 There are concentric circles that ripple out, 502 00:25:23,021 --> 00:25:26,316 and the effects of one person’s incarceration 503 00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:28,444 really makes waves. 504 00:25:28,444 --> 00:25:30,362 It makes waves for their family, 505 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,698 for their children. 506 00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:35,033 For example, Edward Douglas, 507 00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:38,370 his daughter, Shanice, has not hugged him 508 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,831 since she was eight years old. 509 00:25:40,831 --> 00:25:43,167 She’s 23. 510 00:25:43,167 --> 00:25:46,253 That has a profound and traumatic impact 511 00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:49,089 upon not only your sense of safety 512 00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:52,426 and belonging in the world, but your understanding 513 00:25:52,426 --> 00:25:55,804 of the American criminal justice system, 514 00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:58,974 what it’s meant to do and who it’s meant to protect. 515 00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:01,518 He’s missed so much, oh my God. 516 00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:04,772 First boyfriend, first--my graduation. 517 00:26:04,772 --> 00:26:07,024 I went to prom twice. 518 00:26:07,024 --> 00:26:09,610 I--I was an athlete in high school. 519 00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:11,487 I won state championship. 520 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:13,363 One year, I won first place, 521 00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:15,699 and the next year, I went back, I won second place. 522 00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:17,117 He missed that. 523 00:26:17,117 --> 00:26:18,535 I know he would’ve been so proud of that 524 00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:20,662 ’cause my dad is an athlete himself. 525 00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:22,372 It’s just so much he’s missed, 526 00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:25,167 like, my first going to college 527 00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:28,378 and, like, practically 528 00:26:28,378 --> 00:26:30,714 the milestone of my life. 529 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,800 He’s missed all of that. 530 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,386 I had been in the hospital, I had back surgery, 531 00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:37,930 and I couldn’t talk to my child 532 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:40,891 for five whole months on the phone 533 00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:44,269 because they wouldn’t let him call the hospital 534 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:46,605 because it wasn’t on the list, 535 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:49,066 and they wouldn’t let him call me. 536 00:26:49,066 --> 00:26:50,984 When I came home out of the hospital, 537 00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,320 I picked up the phone, and they started telling me 538 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,822 it was from the prison. 539 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:58,492 I said, "Hello," and he said, "Hello, woman!" 540 00:26:58,492 --> 00:26:59,785 ’Cause that’s what he always calls me: 541 00:26:59,785 --> 00:27:01,119 "Hello, woman!" 542 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,956 And I bust up a side cramp. 543 00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:05,791 For my father to be in prison, 544 00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:08,460 he’s still a father, he’s still... 545 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:10,337 You know, like, a lot of people say, like, 546 00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:12,714 "Oh, because he’s behind bars, he can’t be a father." 547 00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:14,591 Like, a lot of people are shocked to say-- 548 00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:16,093 to hear me say that my father has 549 00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:18,220 always still been my father. 550 00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:21,431 I say that because he’s always given me great advice, 551 00:27:21,431 --> 00:27:24,810 never steered me wrong in anything, 552 00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:27,104 and he still does for me. 553 00:27:27,104 --> 00:27:29,523 In time of need, even behind bars, 554 00:27:29,523 --> 00:27:32,442 he still makes it happen. 555 00:27:32,442 --> 00:27:34,987 My dad, um, 556 00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:37,823 to me, growing up was 557 00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:41,326 he was my leader, my teacher, 558 00:27:41,326 --> 00:27:44,872 my mom and dad in one. 559 00:27:44,872 --> 00:27:48,250 He taught me how to fish. 560 00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:50,669 Um... 561 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:54,464 And not just fish for fish, but fish for crabs, 562 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:57,551 and I used to love going to the river in Puerto Rico 563 00:27:57,551 --> 00:28:01,555 and fishing with him. 564 00:28:01,555 --> 00:28:10,188 ♪ 565 00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:14,443 I want to get married one day, and like every girl, 566 00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:17,446 she wants her father to walk her down the aisle. 567 00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:19,197 Am I willing to wait on my father? 568 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:21,575 Yes, I am willing to do that. 569 00:28:21,575 --> 00:28:23,577 I will do that because I have faith 570 00:28:23,577 --> 00:28:26,496 and I believe that he’ll get out. 571 00:28:26,496 --> 00:28:29,625 One of the real perversions of the Three Strikes drug law 572 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:32,419 is that it only counts drug strikes. 573 00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:37,049 So, if you have a person who committed a murder in 1989 574 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:40,260 or a kidnapping in 1992, 575 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:44,848 and then they’re caught with 140 grams of crack in 2003, 576 00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:47,601 that person only has one drug strike, 577 00:28:47,601 --> 00:28:50,187 so they’re not facing a mandatory minimum 578 00:28:50,187 --> 00:28:51,813 of life in prison. 579 00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,149 But then you have someone like Edward Douglas 580 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:57,319 who possessed marijuana in 1989 581 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:01,323 and then possessed a small amount of cocaine in 1992, 582 00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:03,367 and under the Three Strikes drug law, 583 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:05,535 he’s subject to a mandatory minimum, 584 00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:06,954 whereas the person who had committed 585 00:29:06,954 --> 00:29:09,331 violent crimes before was not. 586 00:29:09,331 --> 00:29:12,834 Where I’m working on a state-local level, 587 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:15,879 I’ve got a case where the man walked up 588 00:29:15,879 --> 00:29:19,341 to a parked car, shot the victim in the face, 589 00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:21,093 killed him immediately, 590 00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,387 and given the circumstances of the case, 591 00:29:23,387 --> 00:29:25,013 he got six years in prison. 592 00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:26,306 So six years in prison 593 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:28,558 for shooting a man in the face and killing him, 594 00:29:28,558 --> 00:29:31,728 as opposed to life in prison without parole 595 00:29:31,728 --> 00:29:33,063 in the federal system 596 00:29:33,063 --> 00:29:37,109 for having three drug charges. 597 00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:39,444 It just doesn’t seem to balance out there. 598 00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:40,862 Like, it’s completely unfair. 599 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:45,200 You can have a very violent background 600 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,328 and rap sheet and still not have the three strikes 601 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:49,997 for drug convictions. 602 00:29:49,997 --> 00:29:52,666 And that’s really illogical, 603 00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:56,378 and it’s contrary to the idea of public safety. 604 00:29:56,378 --> 00:29:58,338 The Senate overwhelmingly passed 605 00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:01,341 a criminal justice reform bill on Tuesday night. 606 00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:04,845 The First Step Act would change sentencing laws, 607 00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:07,556 establish more early release programs, 608 00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:11,601 and expand job training meant to reduce recidivism. 609 00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:14,938 -Hello? -Hi, Ms. Douglas? 610 00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:18,650 -Hi, how you doing? -Good morning, how are you? 611 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,862 -I’m doing fine, and you? -I’m doing well. 612 00:30:21,862 --> 00:30:23,780 I wanted to just call and let you know 613 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:27,242 that I just got off of the phone with the judge. 614 00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:29,661 -We had a hearing... -Yes. 615 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:31,955 ...and the judge signed the order 616 00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:35,834 to release Edward immediately. 617 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:37,419 Oh my God. 618 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:39,337 Girl... 619 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,965 I told you you was bad. 620 00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:44,885 I don’t know how much my heart can take. 621 00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,970 Oh, Ms. Douglas! 622 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:51,558 That means the whole team is joined with you forever now. 623 00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:52,976 That’s what I want. 624 00:30:52,976 --> 00:30:56,605 -Joined with me forever! -Yeah! 625 00:30:56,605 --> 00:30:59,649 Yeah, you won’t forget about us, will you? 626 00:30:59,649 --> 00:31:01,234 Oh, not at all. 627 00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:02,194 How am I gonna forget about you? 628 00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:03,403 He come home--when he come home, 629 00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:07,115 he coming down there and work with y’all. 630 00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:09,409 He’s coming to join the fight. 631 00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:11,078 ♪ 632 00:31:11,078 --> 00:31:13,080 Perfect, perfect. 633 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,623 Lady, lady, lady, 634 00:31:14,623 --> 00:31:16,500 your mama named you the right thing 635 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,127 ’cause she knew what you was gonna do. 636 00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:22,172 MiAngel, she walked in my door. 637 00:31:22,172 --> 00:31:26,593 Your name is MiAngel, but God sent you to be my angel. 638 00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:30,263 Oh, Ms. Douglas, thank you. 639 00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:33,475 -Hello? -Hi, Mr. Douglas, how are you? 640 00:31:33,475 --> 00:31:37,187 -Hey, Ms. Cody, how you doing? -I’m good! 641 00:31:37,187 --> 00:31:39,481 So, we wanted to talk to you about some things 642 00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:41,191 that are happening in your case. 643 00:31:41,191 --> 00:31:42,984 Okay. 644 00:31:42,984 --> 00:31:47,531 Um, the government has agreed to immediately release you. 645 00:31:47,531 --> 00:31:50,742 -Okay. -The judge is going to have you, 646 00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:55,122 um, be present to participate in a hearing today. 647 00:31:55,122 --> 00:31:58,041 -It’s gonna happen by phone. -Okay. 648 00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:00,085 Um, here’s what’s gonna happen: 649 00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:03,547 both sides, your defense lawyer and the prosecutor, 650 00:32:03,547 --> 00:32:06,258 are going to tell the judge that we all agree 651 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:09,803 that you are overserving time in prison 652 00:32:09,803 --> 00:32:12,055 and that you should be immediately released. 653 00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:14,474 (he cries) 654 00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:23,692 (sobbing) 655 00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:37,706 (groans) 656 00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:43,712 Excuse me. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 657 00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:47,048 Take your time, take your time, take your time. 658 00:32:47,048 --> 00:32:48,717 Ah! 659 00:32:51,261 --> 00:32:53,471 Take as much time as you need. 660 00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:55,140 Mm. 661 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:58,768 I’ll be glad to see my mom and my kids. 662 00:32:58,768 --> 00:32:59,936 Yeah. 663 00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:01,563 Yeah! 664 00:33:01,563 --> 00:33:03,899 Girl, I don’t know what to do, okay? 665 00:33:03,899 --> 00:33:05,483 I don’t want to overspill. 666 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,903 I don’t want to be too excited on the phone. 667 00:33:07,903 --> 00:33:09,487 I don’t want to feel like-- you know what I’m saying? 668 00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:12,073 I don’t want to be-- I was screaming when he told me 669 00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:13,408 ’cause he was telling me, too. 670 00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:14,576 I had to put the phone on mute. 671 00:33:14,576 --> 00:33:17,162 I was acting a motherfucking fool. 672 00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:19,956 I don’t know what to do or say, okay? 673 00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:22,417 I don’t know if it’s appropriate. 674 00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:24,544 Joy is always appropriate! 675 00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:26,713 I know, I know. 676 00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:28,548 Goddamn, I would’ve been on the phone like, 677 00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:30,008 "Edward, you coming home!" 678 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,760 (laughing) 679 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,095 Okay? "Edward, get your shit!" 680 00:33:34,095 --> 00:33:36,723 (laughing) 681 00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:38,433 "Get your shit! 682 00:33:38,433 --> 00:33:41,686 And wait for me at the door, okay? 683 00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:43,980 Be at the wall like this, okay? 684 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:45,106 I’m pulling up." 685 00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:47,859 Shit, I don’t know what to do. 686 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:49,778 (indistinct chatter) 687 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:51,112 -That’s him? -That’s him. 688 00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:53,365 (telephone ringing) 689 00:33:53,365 --> 00:33:55,367 (indistinct chatter) 690 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:57,577 I told Mom the same thing. 691 00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,829 -Hi. -Hi, I’m just filming. 692 00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:01,957 (indistinct chatter) 693 00:34:01,957 --> 00:34:03,667 -Mi? -MiAngel. 694 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,086 (squealing, laughing) 695 00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:10,047 (screeching) 696 00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:12,467 (laughing) 697 00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:18,931 How you doing? 698 00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:23,687 (laughing) 699 00:34:23,687 --> 00:34:25,397 -You all right? -Yeah. 700 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:27,357 I love you. 701 00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:29,567 (laughing) 702 00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:30,902 Oh, it’s so good to see you, Mom. 703 00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,862 Oh, I love you. 704 00:34:33,862 --> 00:34:35,572 Aw, Grandma. 705 00:34:35,572 --> 00:34:37,367 ♪ 706 00:34:37,367 --> 00:34:39,159 Hey. 707 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:44,081 ♪ 708 00:34:44,081 --> 00:34:46,543 How you doing, woman? 709 00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:47,793 ♪ 710 00:34:47,793 --> 00:34:50,630 How are you? Good to see you. 711 00:34:50,630 --> 00:34:51,922 -How you doing? -Good, and yourself? 712 00:34:51,922 --> 00:34:54,259 All right. 713 00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:57,429 -Edward! -Oh my goodness! 714 00:34:57,429 --> 00:34:59,806 (indistinct chatter) 715 00:34:59,806 --> 00:35:01,683 Thank you, thank you very much. 716 00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:04,269 -I appreciate everything. -Oh my goodness. 717 00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:06,688 -It’s nice to meet you. -So nice to meet you. 718 00:35:06,688 --> 00:35:09,566 What a pleasure to meet you. 719 00:35:09,566 --> 00:35:10,609 This is Jeanne. 720 00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:12,736 She is a cinematographer. 721 00:35:12,736 --> 00:35:16,031 Hi, how you doing? 722 00:35:16,031 --> 00:35:18,241 And then there’s John right here. 723 00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:19,367 -Hi, how you doing? -He’s a local boy. 724 00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:20,660 -All right, local? -Yeah. 725 00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:22,162 Nice to meet you. 726 00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:23,788 Have a seat, have a seat. 727 00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:26,541 Please sit down. 728 00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:36,551 ♪ 729 00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:38,636 9:45, my counselor opens the door, 730 00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:41,640 so I jumped up, like, "What you opening the door for?" 731 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,768 He said, "No, no, your lawyer called and said 732 00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:47,771 you got a conference call with the... 733 00:35:47,771 --> 00:35:50,106 ...with the... 734 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:51,775 ...with the... 735 00:35:51,775 --> 00:35:54,486 ♪ 736 00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:55,904 ...with the judge," right? 737 00:35:55,904 --> 00:35:58,782 So, uh, so when she said, 738 00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:00,116 "You’re gonna get immediate release," 739 00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:03,203 I just dropped the phone and started crying. 740 00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:06,247 And they was crying with me, and I’m looking at them like-- 741 00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:08,208 I’m like, "What is y’all crying for?" 742 00:36:08,208 --> 00:36:09,834 You know, I’m really looking at them, 743 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:11,795 and it was genuine, and they was like, 744 00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,671 "We’re really happy for you. 745 00:36:13,671 --> 00:36:15,924 You know, you’re one of the best inmates 746 00:36:15,924 --> 00:36:16,966 that we have dealt with." 747 00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:18,551 And I’m like, "Thank you." 748 00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:21,096 So, then, once I got through from talking to her 749 00:36:21,096 --> 00:36:22,972 and she tells me what’s happening, 750 00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:24,307 so I say, "Okay." 751 00:36:24,307 --> 00:36:27,060 So I goes back out to the common area 752 00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:30,563 and we got tables, so I just jumped on the table 753 00:36:30,563 --> 00:36:32,899 and I say, "Y’all, I’m getting immediate release!" 754 00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:35,860 So all the guys, and we got like 120-- 755 00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:38,238 I kid you not, we got like 120 guys 756 00:36:38,238 --> 00:36:40,657 in the pod with us, and they just run 757 00:36:40,657 --> 00:36:43,326 and they just jumping on tables with me, right? 758 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,412 "Yeah! Yeah! Thank you!" 759 00:36:45,412 --> 00:36:48,289 And we just hugging, and we just hugging, right? 760 00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:50,667 And they say, "For real," I say, "Yes, they just told me. 761 00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:52,669 I just got to talk to the judge." 762 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,130 So, then, they come back and they say, 763 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:57,757 "Hey, y’all got to lock down for, like, ten minutes." 764 00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,592 So they say, "We ain’t locking down. 765 00:36:59,592 --> 00:37:01,219 We all got to hug him." 766 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:05,640 So all 127 came and just hugged me, you know. 767 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,144 Yes, every last-- everybody in there. 768 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:20,822 So, in the debate about the First Step Act, 769 00:37:20,822 --> 00:37:24,909 one of the primary opponents of that legislation 770 00:37:24,909 --> 00:37:28,329 was a senator in Arkansas who kept raising this idea 771 00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:29,956 that we’ll be less safe, 772 00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:31,416 that we’ll let dangerous criminals 773 00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:32,792 out on the street. 774 00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:34,627 I always thought that was an interesting argument, 775 00:37:34,627 --> 00:37:38,298 because when you look at who is actually going to prison 776 00:37:38,298 --> 00:37:40,049 under the Three Strikes law, 777 00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:43,219 and when you compare that to who is cooperating 778 00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:46,222 and becoming government informants, 779 00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:50,268 what we found is the person who’s more dangerous 780 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:52,353 is the one who cooperates with the government, 781 00:37:52,353 --> 00:37:54,272 who gets a get out of jail free card, 782 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,232 who gets a reduced sentence, 783 00:37:56,232 --> 00:37:58,026 and people like Edward Douglas, 784 00:37:58,026 --> 00:38:01,112 who are low-level fishes who have no information 785 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:03,156 about anyone else to cooperate, 786 00:38:03,156 --> 00:38:06,075 they’re the ones who end up going to prison for life. 787 00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:08,870 So, for example, in Edward’s case, 788 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:13,208 the confidential informant that the government chose 789 00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:15,752 to wear a wire to set him up 790 00:38:15,752 --> 00:38:17,921 had prior convictions for armed robbery 791 00:38:17,921 --> 00:38:19,464 and attempted murder. 792 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:21,090 Edward Douglas had no priors 793 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:24,427 other than possessing marijuana in the 1980s 794 00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:27,055 and possessing cocaine in the 1990s. 795 00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:30,683 That informant ended up getting probation 796 00:38:30,683 --> 00:38:32,185 for setting up Edward. 797 00:38:32,185 --> 00:38:34,604 What he did with that get out of jail free card 798 00:38:34,604 --> 00:38:36,481 was went out and committed more crime. 799 00:38:36,481 --> 00:38:39,734 He kidnapped someone and he committed a robbery 800 00:38:39,734 --> 00:38:42,987 to the tune of $750,000. 801 00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,281 So at the same time while Edward is sitting 802 00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:47,116 in federal prison for life, 803 00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:49,953 this cooperator is out committing more crime. 804 00:38:49,953 --> 00:38:51,579 And many times what I find 805 00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,249 is if you don’t surrender your trial rights, 806 00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:56,334 if you exercise your Sixth Amendment right 807 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,461 to a trial and you lose, 808 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:00,004 you’re going to prison for life. 809 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,257 And that’s really not about public safety. 810 00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:05,552 That’s about prosecutorial efficiency, 811 00:39:05,552 --> 00:39:07,428 which is not justice. 812 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:09,222 You know, if you do something, 813 00:39:09,222 --> 00:39:11,683 you’re supposed to be held accountable for it. 814 00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:13,184 I truly understand. 815 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,894 But I’m just saying, to give people 816 00:39:14,894 --> 00:39:17,855 the time that they give them just for drugs 817 00:39:17,855 --> 00:39:21,359 and you’ve got people-- I’ve been around rapists, 818 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:24,487 murderers while I was in there, 819 00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:26,948 and they had less time than me. 820 00:39:26,948 --> 00:39:29,033 From the time MiAngel called me 821 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,286 and asked me about taking the case, 822 00:39:31,286 --> 00:39:32,912 and I said, "I don’t have any money," 823 00:39:32,912 --> 00:39:34,539 she said, "You don’t need any money. 824 00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:36,624 I didn’t ask you for a dime. 825 00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:37,750 I want to do this." 826 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:40,295 And when I met her, 827 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:43,548 she looked nothing like I thought she would look like. 828 00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:46,759 I’m thinking of this older person and whatever 829 00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:50,013 and she walked in here looking like a little girl to me. 830 00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:54,601 You know, and I go like, "My God, you are a young lady, 831 00:39:54,601 --> 00:39:56,686 and you’re doing all of this?" 832 00:39:56,686 --> 00:39:58,855 It’s a thing with MiAngel and with Bella 833 00:39:58,855 --> 00:40:02,609 where they taught me about healing, right? 834 00:40:02,609 --> 00:40:05,945 About sometimes it’s more than what’s happening 835 00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:07,739 and more about reflection. 836 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,032 And it was at the moment 837 00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:11,159 when I knew Douglas was coming home 838 00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,453 that every day was worth it. 839 00:40:13,453 --> 00:40:15,288 Oh, my God, yes. 840 00:40:15,288 --> 00:40:19,459 Like every day was worth it because it was like-- 841 00:40:19,459 --> 00:40:20,877 and she doesn’t charge people. 842 00:40:20,877 --> 00:40:23,630 -Like, this is free. -Yes, my God. 843 00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:29,093 And there is no 9 to 5 that can make up for how I felt. 844 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:30,553 And even with me being in the military-- 845 00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:33,473 I’ve been in the military since I was 18 years old. 846 00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,017 So I understand service before self, 847 00:40:36,017 --> 00:40:38,227 but they still pay me. 848 00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:42,106 So it was something about this that was different. 849 00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:43,691 -Yes. -And it was like, 850 00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:46,194 okay, my life isn’t a secret. 851 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:50,573 My father being incarcerated is no longer a secret. 852 00:40:50,573 --> 00:40:52,533 -I don’t have to hide that. -That’s right. 853 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:55,578 That’s right, baby. 854 00:40:55,578 --> 00:40:57,747 She just found out a week ago. 855 00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:01,042 And I’ve been working for her for almost over a year now, 856 00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:02,919 and she didn’t know. 857 00:41:02,919 --> 00:41:06,839 But I’m 27 and no one around me knows. 858 00:41:06,839 --> 00:41:09,467 But he’s like my best friend. 859 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,469 Like when I was an undergraduate, 860 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,055 I worked extra jobs to put money on his book 861 00:41:14,055 --> 00:41:16,140 to be able to do calls. 862 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:18,309 Like when they were talking about their collect calls, 863 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,269 those eight dollars used to hurt me. 864 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,313 -Mhm. -Right, but that eight dollars 865 00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:25,483 was nothing compared to the 15 minutes 866 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,360 that I had with him. 867 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,446 ’Cause that would be my only time with him. 868 00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:31,906 And there’s times where I would have to go 869 00:41:31,906 --> 00:41:34,534 a year without seeing him, because I would get deployed 870 00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:37,036 or because they’ll move him again. 871 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,497 So I never got to see him. 872 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:42,125 So all we had was our communication. 873 00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:44,836 So I’m so grateful for MiAngel, 874 00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:48,214 because her selflessness and her passion 875 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:49,924 and her following her purpose 876 00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:52,093 led me to tap into mine. 877 00:41:52,093 --> 00:42:00,184 ♪ 878 00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:02,687 My name is Eric Wilson, 879 00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:07,692 and I was incarcerated for 22 years. 880 00:42:07,692 --> 00:42:11,279 I was in federal prison as a first-time offender 881 00:42:11,279 --> 00:42:13,906 for a nonviolent drug offense. 882 00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:17,326 Never been in the state prisons or anything. 883 00:42:17,326 --> 00:42:19,245 Straight to the feds, 884 00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:22,206 straight to a life sentence for drugs. 885 00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:25,877 ♪ 886 00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:28,296 My brother Eric was my hero. 887 00:42:28,296 --> 00:42:30,673 He did everything a man was supposed to do, 888 00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:33,760 so I thought he’d marry his high school sweetheart, 889 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,638 have children, and provide for his family. 890 00:42:37,638 --> 00:42:39,474 Eric is still my hero 891 00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:42,477 because he don’t blame the system, 892 00:42:42,477 --> 00:42:45,396 he didn’t blame anyone but himself 893 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:47,106 for being locked up. 894 00:42:47,106 --> 00:42:50,526 He says it was the decisions that caused the situation. 895 00:42:50,526 --> 00:42:52,570 Eric has never pointed a finger 896 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:56,199 at anyone but himself. 897 00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,202 As a man, I have to respect his truth. 898 00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:01,162 ♪ 899 00:43:01,162 --> 00:43:04,540 My brother missed out on a lot in 20 years. 900 00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:06,584 ♪ 901 00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:11,255 In January 2017, right before Obama left, 902 00:43:11,255 --> 00:43:13,674 Obama gave me a clemency, 903 00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:16,219 and he knocked my time down, 904 00:43:16,219 --> 00:43:18,262 and that’s how I came home. 905 00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:22,433 To go from 22 years, get a phone call, 906 00:43:22,433 --> 00:43:26,521 and get kicked out of prison the same day. 907 00:43:26,521 --> 00:43:30,107 So it’s like I was in a dream. 908 00:43:30,107 --> 00:43:32,276 And sometimes it’s like I’m still in the dream 909 00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:36,113 when my phone rings and I can answer 910 00:43:36,113 --> 00:43:38,491 or I can call somebody at will. 911 00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:40,159 ♪ 912 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,829 (squealing and laughing) 913 00:43:45,998 --> 00:43:49,168 Oh! 914 00:43:49,168 --> 00:43:52,255 -Oh, how are you doing? -Oh, my God! 915 00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:56,217 ♪ 916 00:43:57,093 --> 00:44:05,309 ♪ 917 00:44:05,309 --> 00:44:06,310 She’s straight ahead. 918 00:44:06,310 --> 00:44:08,646 She’s in that van. 919 00:44:08,646 --> 00:44:09,438 The black one. 920 00:44:11,732 --> 00:44:12,942 -You look beautiful! -Thank you! 921 00:44:15,403 --> 00:44:17,697 Well, I can get into the back. 922 00:44:17,697 --> 00:44:27,623 ♪ 923 00:44:29,292 --> 00:44:31,878 I’m going to DC to meet with Cory Booker, 924 00:44:31,878 --> 00:44:33,504 Senator Cory Booker. 925 00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:34,922 How are you feeling about that? 926 00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:36,132 I feel great. 927 00:44:36,132 --> 00:44:39,510 I feel great because it has a purpose, 928 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:42,597 why I’m going, so like I said, 929 00:44:42,597 --> 00:44:45,808 I feel great just to advocate for the guys that I left. 930 00:44:45,808 --> 00:44:48,311 ’Cause they was my family for 16 years, 931 00:44:48,311 --> 00:44:50,897 and I was thinking, you know, at times I was thinking 932 00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:54,025 that they would be my family for life, you know? 933 00:44:54,025 --> 00:44:56,611 ’Cause I had that life sentence, 934 00:44:56,611 --> 00:44:59,739 so it was a bittersweet moment 935 00:44:59,739 --> 00:45:01,991 when I walked out the door, 936 00:45:01,991 --> 00:45:04,452 especially seeing my sisters and them. 937 00:45:04,452 --> 00:45:07,705 And then the bitter part was just leaving the guys. 938 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:10,458 We started The Decarceration Collective 939 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:13,753 with money that we saved up as federal defenders. 940 00:45:13,753 --> 00:45:17,006 Like as public defenders, our personal savings. 941 00:45:17,006 --> 00:45:20,092 So the first year was, like, extremely difficult, 942 00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:23,054 ’cause you’re working nonstop. 943 00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:25,681 You’re not paying yourselves. 944 00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:27,683 And I think part of that is the nature 945 00:45:27,683 --> 00:45:31,062 of starting a nonprofit 946 00:45:31,062 --> 00:45:33,856 and trying to be true to the values 947 00:45:33,856 --> 00:45:35,316 of indigent defense, 948 00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:39,153 and that is understanding that people can’t pay. 949 00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:41,238 So we always told ourselves 950 00:45:41,238 --> 00:45:43,783 our mission was to be the best lawyers 951 00:45:43,783 --> 00:45:45,576 that money could not buy 952 00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:48,579 for people who could not afford counsel. 953 00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:50,915 But it’s a very, very difficult process 954 00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:53,376 to stay faithful to that. 955 00:45:53,376 --> 00:45:56,963 I think part of it is just being committed to doing it 956 00:45:56,963 --> 00:46:00,007 even when the money isn’t flowing, 957 00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:03,260 even when you don’t know how you’re gonna pay the rent 958 00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:04,845 the next month. 959 00:46:04,845 --> 00:46:06,973 It has been amazing, because she showed me 960 00:46:06,973 --> 00:46:11,435 how to not just be someone’s attorney. 961 00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:16,190 She showed me how to be like a caretaker. 962 00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:19,819 So she’s helped me learn how to have the interaction 963 00:46:19,819 --> 00:46:21,320 to let them know that I care. 964 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,240 I care beyond this piece of paper. 965 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,450 I know that you’re a human, 966 00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:28,327 I understand that you’re a father, 967 00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:30,496 or I know that you like music, 968 00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:32,206 so I’m gonna relate to your music. 969 00:46:32,206 --> 00:46:34,750 This is the music I listen to, what do you listen to? 970 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:37,253 Beyond what’s on this piece of paper, 971 00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:40,131 because music, that has nothing to do with your case 972 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,550 but has everything to do with you. 973 00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:44,760 And MiAngel helped me see that. 974 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,263 (vocalizing) 975 00:46:47,263 --> 00:46:51,350 ♪ 976 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:53,811 Hi! 977 00:46:53,811 --> 00:46:55,104 How are you doing? 978 00:46:55,104 --> 00:46:56,313 I am good. 979 00:46:56,313 --> 00:46:57,940 -You make me happy. -Do I? 980 00:46:57,940 --> 00:47:00,109 You make my soul rejoice. 981 00:47:00,109 --> 00:47:01,902 -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. 982 00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:03,112 Really nice to meet you, man. 983 00:47:03,112 --> 00:47:04,488 I feel like I already know you. 984 00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:05,740 My guardian angel there. 985 00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:07,950 -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you as well. 986 00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:10,119 -Thanks for having us so much. -Are you kidding me? 987 00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:10,995 I’m so grateful. 988 00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:12,329 Who’s this, your bodyguard? 989 00:47:12,329 --> 00:47:13,581 Yes. 990 00:47:13,581 --> 00:47:15,374 (mixed remarks) 991 00:47:15,374 --> 00:47:18,502 (laughing) 992 00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:20,504 I gotta make sure my people are okay! 993 00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:22,506 I hear ya, I hear ya! 994 00:47:22,506 --> 00:47:24,050 But y’all ain’t got no security like we got. 995 00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:25,342 I know, I know! 996 00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:26,677 Two Douglases. 997 00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,471 Get the two Douglases together. 998 00:47:28,471 --> 00:47:30,431 Both men about liberation. 999 00:47:30,431 --> 00:47:32,975 I’m proud to stand here with Edward Douglas, 1000 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:36,312 and you are the first person to be liberated 1001 00:47:36,312 --> 00:47:37,646 thanks to the First Step Act. 1002 00:47:37,646 --> 00:47:39,231 You were unjustly incarcerated. 1003 00:47:39,231 --> 00:47:41,650 Man, it was like enough drug to-- 1004 00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:43,652 -Lighter than a baseball. -Right. 1005 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:45,529 -And you got a life sentence. -Life sentence. 1006 00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:47,198 Life sentence because of two priors 1007 00:47:47,198 --> 00:47:48,616 that didn’t have any jail time. 1008 00:47:48,616 --> 00:47:49,867 Right. 1009 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:51,368 And I just want to say, to me, 1010 00:47:51,368 --> 00:47:53,913 you represent what’s possible 1011 00:47:53,913 --> 00:47:55,456 and what has to happen, right? 1012 00:47:55,456 --> 00:47:56,665 -Exactly. -Do you have any message 1013 00:47:56,665 --> 00:47:58,334 you want to send to folks? 1014 00:47:58,334 --> 00:48:01,670 I just want to say thanks for everything, you know, 1015 00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:03,506 and the fight continues. 1016 00:48:03,506 --> 00:48:05,549 The fight continues, ’cause you have too many 1017 00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:06,675 other brothers that you know 1018 00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:08,636 that are unjustly incarcerated as well. 1019 00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,346 These disproportionate sentences. 1020 00:48:10,346 --> 00:48:11,806 -Exactly. -All right, man. 1021 00:48:11,806 --> 00:48:13,140 And what did you say the first thing you ate 1022 00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:15,142 when you came out of prison was? 1023 00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:17,520 Popeye’s Chicken. 1024 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,105 -Popeye’s Chicken? -Popeye’s Chicken. 1025 00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:20,189 Better than anything in prison? 1026 00:48:20,189 --> 00:48:22,608 Ooh, better, way better. 1027 00:48:22,608 --> 00:48:24,944 When I went in a restaurant, 1028 00:48:24,944 --> 00:48:26,153 the people behind the counter, 1029 00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:28,906 you know, in Kentucky Fried Chicken, 1030 00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:30,658 that’s where I went, 1031 00:48:30,658 --> 00:48:33,619 there’s a lot of young people that work there. 1032 00:48:33,619 --> 00:48:36,122 Teenagers, and now I’m sitting there 1033 00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:37,373 and they’re looking at me, 1034 00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:42,211 and I’m in a gray jogging suit from prison, 1035 00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:43,712 and they don’t know I’m from prison, 1036 00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:45,631 but I’m looking at the menu, 1037 00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:48,092 and I’m trying to figure out how the menu goes, 1038 00:48:48,092 --> 00:48:50,678 because it wasn’t like that 20 years ago. 1039 00:48:50,678 --> 00:48:52,179 So I’m looking up at the menu 1040 00:48:52,179 --> 00:48:56,100 and I’m trying to piece together a meal, 1041 00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,477 and they’re looking like, "Can we help you?" 1042 00:48:58,477 --> 00:49:00,396 And I’m like, "Oh, one minute, please. 1043 00:49:00,396 --> 00:49:01,897 I gotta figure this one out." 1044 00:49:01,897 --> 00:49:04,275 ♪ 1045 00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:07,111 When I went downtown to see the probation officer, 1046 00:49:07,111 --> 00:49:09,446 I get on the bus, I use my mother’s card. 1047 00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:11,699 I mean, my daughter gave me a couple of cards 1048 00:49:11,699 --> 00:49:15,327 that you put in the bus, whatever, the gold... 1049 00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:16,912 -Ventra card. -The Ventra card. 1050 00:49:16,912 --> 00:49:19,915 I put the Ventra card in the money slot, right? 1051 00:49:19,915 --> 00:49:22,418 So, he’s looking at me like, "What you doing?" 1052 00:49:22,418 --> 00:49:23,878 I say, "What you mean, what am I doing?" 1053 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:24,920 He said, "It don’t go there," 1054 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,422 I said, "Well, I don’t know." 1055 00:49:26,422 --> 00:49:28,883 So then--so he said, "No, it goes there," 1056 00:49:28,883 --> 00:49:30,217 so he let me go. 1057 00:49:30,217 --> 00:49:31,719 So then I go to see my daughter 1058 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,971 after I leave the probation officer, right? 1059 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:37,516 So my daughter stays on 35th in them townhouses, 1060 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:38,893 and I’ve never been over there, 1061 00:49:38,893 --> 00:49:42,771 you know, so I’m like, "Okay, I got my phone." 1062 00:49:42,771 --> 00:49:45,107 I don’t know how to use my phone, so I’m like... 1063 00:49:45,107 --> 00:49:48,027 So I’m still, like, "Uh, where they live?" 1064 00:49:48,027 --> 00:49:49,320 And I’m walking all through. 1065 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,531 So I go to the CTA Department, 1066 00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:54,033 so when I get in there, I asked the man, 1067 00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:56,202 I said, "Hey, do you got a pay phone in here?" 1068 00:49:56,202 --> 00:49:58,829 He looking at me like, "We don’t do pay phones no more." 1069 00:49:58,829 --> 00:50:02,499 And I’m like, "Uh, I don’t know," you know? 1070 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:05,085 So he was like, "Ain’t no pay phone." 1071 00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:08,964 And then when I order a soda, I order an orange soda 1072 00:50:08,964 --> 00:50:10,466 and they give me a cup. 1073 00:50:10,466 --> 00:50:12,051 And I’m like... 1074 00:50:12,051 --> 00:50:14,678 Then they’re like, "Oh, you gotta fill it over there." 1075 00:50:14,678 --> 00:50:18,140 And that wasn’t so when I left. 1076 00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:20,392 They fill the pops and everything. 1077 00:50:20,392 --> 00:50:23,062 Now they got it over to the side. 1078 00:50:23,062 --> 00:50:25,397 It takes a little getting used to. 1079 00:50:25,397 --> 00:50:26,690 They got a "detox" one. 1080 00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:27,816 Did they have these, though? 1081 00:50:27,816 --> 00:50:29,401 -That’s all that I need to know. -No! 1082 00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:31,195 This wasn’t around... 1083 00:50:31,195 --> 00:50:32,947 This was around, I had them. 1084 00:50:32,947 --> 00:50:35,699 This wasn’t around. 1085 00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:36,909 I want to be the first one 1086 00:50:36,909 --> 00:50:39,078 to get you some Jalapeno Cheddar Cheetos. 1087 00:50:39,078 --> 00:50:41,413 Yes, Cheetos, man, I got a couple of bags 1088 00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:43,624 of regular Cheetos at the house. 1089 00:50:43,624 --> 00:50:46,877 ♪ 1090 00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:48,128 Cory Booker, how are you? 1091 00:50:48,128 --> 00:50:49,964 I’m doing all right, I’m doing all right. 1092 00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:51,423 -Nice to see you. -Nice to see you, too. 1093 00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:53,425 Nice to see you, too. 1094 00:50:53,425 --> 00:50:56,053 You don’t want to shake my hand, sir. 1095 00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:57,179 What’s up? 1096 00:50:57,179 --> 00:50:58,514 How you doing? Okay! 1097 00:50:58,514 --> 00:51:00,516 Keep that same energy! 1098 00:51:00,516 --> 00:51:02,601 (indistinct remarks) 1099 00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:03,936 What you represent to me now 1100 00:51:03,936 --> 00:51:06,855 is more than just a symbol of what the past was. 1101 00:51:06,855 --> 00:51:09,775 You represent a symbol of what we still have to do. 1102 00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:12,486 Every prison I go to, I tell this story all the time, 1103 00:51:12,486 --> 00:51:15,364 I ask wardens, you know, these are the people in charge, 1104 00:51:15,364 --> 00:51:16,573 I would say to them, "Are there people 1105 00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:18,033 that don’t belong here?" 1106 00:51:18,033 --> 00:51:19,451 And they go, "Yeah, there are people 1107 00:51:19,451 --> 00:51:20,744 that just should not be here." 1108 00:51:20,744 --> 00:51:23,122 You know, part of it is, I think, 1109 00:51:23,122 --> 00:51:24,999 and this is not something that’s just endemic 1110 00:51:24,999 --> 00:51:26,583 to The Decarceration Collective. 1111 00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:30,504 It is part of being within a system 1112 00:51:30,504 --> 00:51:34,675 that funds prosecution but not decarceration. 1113 00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:38,721 That we channel hundreds of thousands 1114 00:51:38,721 --> 00:51:43,142 and millions of dollars into prosecuting people, 1115 00:51:43,142 --> 00:51:47,438 but their re-entry is woefully underfunded. 1116 00:51:47,438 --> 00:51:49,565 Organizations that support re-entry, 1117 00:51:49,565 --> 00:51:52,693 mental health services, legal services, 1118 00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:54,403 woefully underfunded. 1119 00:51:54,403 --> 00:51:56,697 And that’s part of the system or the apparatus 1120 00:51:56,697 --> 00:51:58,741 that, quite frankly, my clients had experienced 1121 00:51:58,741 --> 00:52:00,951 before they went to prison. 1122 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:03,245 And then they experience when they get out. 1123 00:52:03,245 --> 00:52:05,456 And so part of it is understanding 1124 00:52:05,456 --> 00:52:07,374 I think America has to choose. 1125 00:52:07,374 --> 00:52:10,461 Are we going to fund decarceration for people? 1126 00:52:10,461 --> 00:52:13,964 If we’re really committed to ending mass incarceration, 1127 00:52:13,964 --> 00:52:16,508 then that has to be a systemic shift 1128 00:52:16,508 --> 00:52:21,096 in how we prioritize and invest our money into people. 1129 00:52:21,096 --> 00:52:23,098 ’Cause people are getting out of prison, 1130 00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:26,560 and the question is to what support? 1131 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,770 For many of my clients, 1132 00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:29,646 the first system that ever really paid 1133 00:52:29,646 --> 00:52:32,441 any focus, attention to them 1134 00:52:32,441 --> 00:52:34,485 was the criminal justice system. 1135 00:52:34,485 --> 00:52:35,944 It wasn’t the educational system, 1136 00:52:35,944 --> 00:52:37,863 it wasn’t the mental health system, 1137 00:52:37,863 --> 00:52:39,740 it wasn’t the healthcare system, 1138 00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:41,450 but you get a lot of attention 1139 00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:43,369 when it’s the United States of America 1140 00:52:43,369 --> 00:52:47,039 versus Edward Douglas or you or I. 1141 00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:49,625 And so I think the shift has to be 1142 00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:52,920 when do we really recognize people as whole human beings? 1143 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,756 ♪ 1144 00:52:55,756 --> 00:52:58,175 As a man incarcerated in federal prison, 1145 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:01,053 I have made positive steps to change my life. 1146 00:53:01,053 --> 00:53:02,888 I have earned a GED, 1147 00:53:02,888 --> 00:53:05,182 completed drug education programs, 1148 00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:07,226 completed a parenting course, 1149 00:53:07,226 --> 00:53:09,812 received college credits in business management, 1150 00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:13,357 have completed courses in futures in the stock market 1151 00:53:13,357 --> 00:53:17,653 while working 10-plus years in Prison Industries UNICOR. 1152 00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:20,280 In jail, they teach you, you program, 1153 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,490 you’ve gotta get a schedule, 1154 00:53:21,490 --> 00:53:23,283 you’ve gotta get something to maintain, 1155 00:53:23,283 --> 00:53:25,285 to keep yourself busy, 1156 00:53:25,285 --> 00:53:29,123 and I kinda practiced that in a sense in the free world, 1157 00:53:29,123 --> 00:53:32,167 because right off the back, I know, okay... 1158 00:53:33,168 --> 00:53:34,711 ...what are your goals? 1159 00:53:34,711 --> 00:53:36,547 You want to get a job, 1160 00:53:36,547 --> 00:53:39,299 you got a felon, so you’ve gotta get a trade. 1161 00:53:39,299 --> 00:53:40,634 So what you was doing in jail? 1162 00:53:40,634 --> 00:53:42,928 I was MIGing and TIGing in jail, 1163 00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:44,304 so why not go to school for it? 1164 00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:46,849 So immediately, I go to school for it. 1165 00:53:46,849 --> 00:53:53,355 So now I’m positioning myself to be successful out here 1166 00:53:53,355 --> 00:53:56,692 like I was in jail and able to achieve the goal 1167 00:53:56,692 --> 00:53:59,236 to get the clemency and get my freedom back. 1168 00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:04,533 And now I have a goal to position myself to stay free. 1169 00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:06,910 I’m building all the foundation around me, 1170 00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:09,746 school, good people, you know what I’m saying, 1171 00:54:09,746 --> 00:54:14,001 and I’m still in tune with my legal team 1172 00:54:14,001 --> 00:54:16,712 that helps me and guides me. 1173 00:54:16,712 --> 00:54:18,213 So I’m all right. 1174 00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:20,174 And then I got my family, 1175 00:54:20,174 --> 00:54:26,096 so I got the support on the outside to succeed, 1176 00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:28,724 and that’s what I want out here, 1177 00:54:28,724 --> 00:54:33,562 because it took me 22 years. 1178 00:54:33,562 --> 00:54:35,355 Why would I give it back up? 1179 00:54:35,355 --> 00:54:37,232 ♪ 1180 00:54:37,232 --> 00:54:40,110 As a child, 1181 00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,653 my father taught me... 1182 00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:43,947 ♪ 1183 00:54:43,947 --> 00:54:45,949 ...from the age of 14 years old 1184 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:47,910 how to take care of myself, 1185 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:49,703 and be a productive young man. 1186 00:54:49,703 --> 00:54:51,872 ♪ 1187 00:54:51,872 --> 00:54:55,083 And I let him down. I went to prison. 1188 00:54:55,083 --> 00:55:05,010 ♪ 1189 00:55:09,097 --> 00:55:12,851 Well, today--I’m sorry. 1190 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:15,771 ♪ 1191 00:55:15,771 --> 00:55:17,439 I spend a lot of time with family, 1192 00:55:17,439 --> 00:55:21,193 but with my grandkids, I spend the most time with. 1193 00:55:21,193 --> 00:55:25,280 My kids, they was born when I got locked up. 1194 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,158 So, my grandkids had to come, 1195 00:55:28,158 --> 00:55:31,078 so it’s like I got a do-over with the grandkids. 1196 00:55:31,078 --> 00:55:34,122 So I’m all the time with them, taking them to Chuck E. Cheese, 1197 00:55:34,122 --> 00:55:35,916 I’m spending time with them and stuff, 1198 00:55:35,916 --> 00:55:39,378 so it’s like, when I’m with them, 1199 00:55:39,378 --> 00:55:42,422 that helps you stay focused on the goal. 1200 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,176 You know, hey, you got this second chance. 1201 00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:48,262 It’s like a second chance all the way around 1202 00:55:48,262 --> 00:55:50,597 with raising kids and everything. 1203 00:55:50,597 --> 00:55:57,104 So family is way important, especially the little ones, 1204 00:55:57,104 --> 00:55:59,022 because they keep me focused. 1205 00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:00,566 He was peeking around the corner, 1206 00:56:00,566 --> 00:56:03,318 I came in, ’cause I dropped everyone off at the door, 1207 00:56:03,318 --> 00:56:05,237 you know, you have to park on the street. 1208 00:56:05,237 --> 00:56:07,990 So I went and parked my car and I came in, 1209 00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:11,285 and I was taking my coat off right there at the freezer 1210 00:56:11,285 --> 00:56:13,745 and everybody was just looking at me around the corner. 1211 00:56:13,745 --> 00:56:16,248 I didn’t even know it was him peeking around the corner. 1212 00:56:16,248 --> 00:56:17,708 He looked just like my brother. 1213 00:56:17,708 --> 00:56:18,875 I promise I didn’t know it was him. 1214 00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:20,127 I was like, oh, there you go! 1215 00:56:20,127 --> 00:56:23,046 Like, "Oh, my God, no, wait!" 1216 00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:25,424 I expected to cry, but I didn’t. 1217 00:56:25,424 --> 00:56:28,635 I was just in my head, like, crying is over. 1218 00:56:28,635 --> 00:56:31,054 It’s over! 1219 00:56:31,054 --> 00:56:33,515 I didn’t cry and I was so shocked at myself. 1220 00:56:33,515 --> 00:56:36,476 Like, it’s over! I don’t have to cry anymore. 1221 00:56:36,476 --> 00:56:40,731 I can say this, and I mean this from my heart, 1222 00:56:40,731 --> 00:56:41,982 I know it’s favor, 1223 00:56:41,982 --> 00:56:44,735 I know how hard these women worked. 1224 00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:50,073 That it’s over 2,000 people in jail 1225 00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:51,950 that I’ve read of 1226 00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:56,288 that’s in there for life for drugs and everything. 1227 00:56:56,288 --> 00:57:01,585 Yet my son walked out the door. 1228 00:57:01,585 --> 00:57:03,503 And everybody else is still there 1229 00:57:03,503 --> 00:57:05,213 trying to get out. 1230 00:57:05,213 --> 00:57:07,174 These women worked hard. 1231 00:57:07,174 --> 00:57:10,344 When I told her, I said, "What’s your next step?" 1232 00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:12,596 "I gotta rest a few days." 1233 00:57:12,596 --> 00:57:14,640 I said, "Well, do you have other cases?" 1234 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,974 "Oh, yeah, I’ve got other cases, 1235 00:57:15,974 --> 00:57:19,269 but I rest a few and then I go back to them." 1236 00:57:19,269 --> 00:57:21,188 Where are we at moving forward? 1237 00:57:21,188 --> 00:57:22,356 My staff is already going back to work 1238 00:57:22,356 --> 00:57:24,608 on drafting the second step. 1239 00:57:24,608 --> 00:57:25,901 This is just the first step, 1240 00:57:25,901 --> 00:57:27,653 so we’ve gotta get another one. 1241 00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:28,987 You know? Let’s go. 1242 00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:30,614 ’Cause there’s still issues. 1243 00:57:30,614 --> 00:57:32,491 What’s in the second step? 1244 00:57:32,491 --> 00:57:33,825 We’re talking about what should it be. 1245 00:57:33,825 --> 00:57:35,911 I mean, everything from when people come home, 1246 00:57:35,911 --> 00:57:37,245 banning the box. 1247 00:57:37,245 --> 00:57:39,206 The biggest employer in our country 1248 00:57:39,206 --> 00:57:43,752 is the federal government and federal contractors, 1249 00:57:43,752 --> 00:57:45,796 but you still have to check that box. 1250 00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:48,131 So when guys do come home, help them to get 1251 00:57:48,131 --> 00:57:50,759 a better chance of getting a job. 1252 00:57:50,759 --> 00:57:52,010 So that’s one thing. 1253 00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:53,387 I still think we need to get rid 1254 00:57:53,387 --> 00:57:54,888 of mandatory minimums altogether. 1255 00:57:54,888 --> 00:57:56,556 -Oh, absolutely. -Lot of work. 1256 00:57:56,556 --> 00:58:06,566 ♪ 1257 00:58:07,776 --> 00:58:10,529 Words alone could never express the remorse I feel 1258 00:58:10,529 --> 00:58:13,281 for my choice to use and sell drugs. 1259 00:58:13,281 --> 00:58:16,243 I knew I had to pay a price for my bad decisions, 1260 00:58:16,243 --> 00:58:18,328 so now I try to take life as it comes 1261 00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:19,830 with no complaints. 1262 00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:21,540 I deal with life and everything else 1263 00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:24,835 for what it is, not for what I think it should be. 1264 00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:26,837 I have refused to grow bitter 1265 00:58:26,837 --> 00:58:28,839 and allow the mistakes of my past 1266 00:58:28,839 --> 00:58:30,382 and the weight of prison to bury me 1267 00:58:30,382 --> 00:58:32,175 before I’m physically dead. 1268 00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:34,010 I tell myself every day 1269 00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:36,471 it is not a disgrace to have been a criminal, 1270 00:58:36,471 --> 00:58:38,640 it’s a disgrace to remain one. 1271 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,393 I want the chance to atone for my criminal acts. 1272 00:58:41,393 --> 00:58:42,853 I want to show my family 1273 00:58:42,853 --> 00:58:45,272 I am someone they can be proud of, 1274 00:58:45,272 --> 00:58:47,941 show society that there are people incarcerated 1275 00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,777 who made mistakes, but if given a chance, 1276 00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:53,947 will prove they are now fit to be a part of society 1277 00:58:53,947 --> 00:58:56,408 and ready to contribute. 1278 00:58:56,408 --> 00:58:58,702 I know it is not about what lies behind me 1279 00:58:58,702 --> 00:59:00,704 or what lies ahead of me. 1280 00:59:00,704 --> 00:59:02,247 It’s about what lies within me 1281 00:59:02,247 --> 00:59:04,374 that will help me manifest a bigger 1282 00:59:04,374 --> 00:59:07,252 and brighter future. 1283 00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:51,004 ♪ 1284 00:59:51,004 --> 00:59:53,548 I went to my first prisons in law school. 1285 00:59:53,548 --> 00:59:57,469 I’m almost embarrassed it took me 24 years to visit, 1286 00:59:57,469 --> 01:00:00,013 and I saw these guys with life sentences 1287 01:00:00,013 --> 01:00:01,681 that were-- just their whole life 1288 01:00:01,681 --> 01:00:03,642 was focusing on helping guys who were gonna come in 1289 01:00:03,642 --> 01:00:06,019 and go out far before them. 1290 01:00:06,019 --> 01:00:07,646 The way you sort of conducted yourself 1291 01:00:07,646 --> 01:00:10,148 while you were in there to say, "Hey, look. 1292 01:00:10,148 --> 01:00:12,067 I still have breath in my body, blood in my veins. 1293 01:00:12,067 --> 01:00:13,276 I can still try to make a difference 1294 01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:15,111 in the lives of other people." 1295 01:00:15,111 --> 01:00:16,655 That’s really profound. 1296 01:00:16,655 --> 01:00:17,906 Yeah, that was my intention, 1297 01:00:17,906 --> 01:00:19,741 ’cause I wasn’t gonna let it dictate-- 1298 01:00:19,741 --> 01:00:22,285 being in jail, I wasn’t gonna let it dictate me 1299 01:00:22,285 --> 01:00:23,745 doing the wrong things and stuff, 1300 01:00:23,745 --> 01:00:26,456 so I went in there and got my education, 1301 01:00:26,456 --> 01:00:29,251 working suicide watch and helping the guys. 1302 01:00:29,251 --> 01:00:31,711 I was commissioner of the sports program. 1303 01:00:31,711 --> 01:00:33,964 You know, ’cause it’s something, 1304 01:00:33,964 --> 01:00:35,590 it’s something being in there. 1305 01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:38,760 They can imprison your body, but they can’t cage your soul. 1306 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,428 -That’s right. -Your mind. 1307 01:00:40,428 --> 01:00:42,013 And when they tell you you got a life sentence, 1308 01:00:42,013 --> 01:00:43,098 they’re* not just telling that judge, 1309 01:00:43,098 --> 01:00:45,976 "Well, I’ll be back." 1310 01:00:45,976 --> 01:00:49,104 -You know, I’ll be back. -Yeah. 1311 01:00:49,104 --> 01:00:52,274 It took a lot from me, 1312 01:00:52,274 --> 01:00:55,068 but I’m not bitter, I’m not bitter at all. 1313 01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:56,778 I can see it in your spirit right now. 1314 01:00:56,778 --> 01:00:59,656 It helped me grow as a man. 1315 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:00,991 It helped me grow as a man, 1316 01:01:00,991 --> 01:01:04,828 so now I just want to help the other gentlemen 1317 01:01:04,828 --> 01:01:08,957 -that’s affected like I am. -Yeah. 1318 01:01:08,957 --> 01:01:10,333 Well, that’s my fight, too, man. 1319 01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:11,293 -Okay. -Yeah. 1320 01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:21,219 ♪ 1321 01:01:39,362 --> 01:01:41,781 The moment 1322 01:01:41,781 --> 01:01:44,200 my father was sentenced to life in prison 1323 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,369 probably was the moment 1324 01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:48,914 nothing but weight was on my shoulders. 1325 01:01:48,914 --> 01:01:54,586 He raised me to think that I was going to save him. 1326 01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:58,298 So while granted, it was great to have him send me books, 1327 01:01:58,298 --> 01:02:00,175 send me things to read 1328 01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:02,969 to always help me with my career, 1329 01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:08,934 it also hurt to know that, if I didn’t do this, 1330 01:02:08,934 --> 01:02:11,853 I’m letting him down. 1331 01:02:11,853 --> 01:02:15,732 That I have to study for him. 1332 01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,193 I have to pull this all-nighter for him. 1333 01:02:18,193 --> 01:02:21,529 So any time I got tired, it wasn’t like, 1334 01:02:21,529 --> 01:02:22,948 "Okay, just take a nap." 1335 01:02:22,948 --> 01:02:25,450 It was, "Okay, if you don’t stay up, 1336 01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:28,328 it’s gonna be your fault that he rots in this cage 1337 01:02:28,328 --> 01:02:30,956 if you don’t do some jumping jacks, 1338 01:02:30,956 --> 01:02:33,083 get some coffee, get it together." 1339 01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:38,505 And that world of feeling guilty, it’s real, 1340 01:02:38,505 --> 01:02:42,759 because as I celebrate Edward Douglas 1341 01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:46,346 and I’m so happy, I feel guilty. 1342 01:02:46,346 --> 01:02:49,391 The first person that I played a role in getting them out 1343 01:02:49,391 --> 01:02:52,268 was not my father. 1344 01:02:52,268 --> 01:02:56,690 And when I told my daughter about Douglas and the family, 1345 01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:58,316 she was so happy. 1346 01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:01,111 Her first words were, "So are we gonna be able 1347 01:03:01,111 --> 01:03:02,445 to do this for my granddad? 1348 01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:03,738 When is he getting out?" 1349 01:03:03,738 --> 01:03:06,241 That was the first thing she said. 1350 01:03:06,241 --> 01:03:08,702 And now I’ve transferred this weight on her 1351 01:03:08,702 --> 01:03:10,370 without even noticing. 1352 01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:13,498 Something my mother said to me 1353 01:03:13,498 --> 01:03:17,544 shortly after he was sentenced, 1354 01:03:17,544 --> 01:03:20,338 it was like she was congratulating me 1355 01:03:20,338 --> 01:03:23,341 about the work that I do, 1356 01:03:23,341 --> 01:03:26,344 but she said something like, 1357 01:03:26,344 --> 01:03:28,972 "I know God sent me you 1358 01:03:28,972 --> 01:03:33,351 so that you could help me get my son back." 1359 01:03:33,351 --> 01:03:36,229 ♪ 1360 01:03:36,229 --> 01:03:39,649 You know, and to think about 1361 01:03:39,649 --> 01:03:44,237 what type of pressure that puts on a young person, 1362 01:03:44,237 --> 01:03:47,615 like on a daughter, on a family, 1363 01:03:47,615 --> 01:03:51,828 to think that my accomplishments 1364 01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:53,913 can’t be my own. 1365 01:03:53,913 --> 01:03:57,417 It can’t just be about me trying to develop 1366 01:03:57,417 --> 01:03:59,294 and be the best person I can be 1367 01:03:59,294 --> 01:04:04,841 or use my talent to really weight it, 1368 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:06,593 you know, it’s really-- 1369 01:04:06,593 --> 01:04:09,679 like, and of course, there’s nothing more I want 1370 01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:12,640 that to free my brother, you know, 1371 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,934 but to have that type of pressure, 1372 01:04:14,934 --> 01:04:17,771 I think about her saying that every day. 1373 01:04:17,771 --> 01:04:27,489 ♪ 1374 01:04:27,489 --> 01:04:28,865 But you gotta want it. 1375 01:04:28,865 --> 01:04:30,950 You gotta--I mean, it’s like 1376 01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:32,994 we’ve gotta want Edward’s freedom 1377 01:04:32,994 --> 01:04:34,454 more than we want five o’clock 1378 01:04:34,454 --> 01:04:36,873 or more than you want food, more than you want sleep. 1379 01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:39,084 You know, I feel like that’s what the work requires. 1380 01:04:39,084 --> 01:04:42,837 That’s what I hope that people learn from this 1381 01:04:42,837 --> 01:04:44,380 is like you have to want it. 1382 01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:48,009 We will scratch concrete until you are out. 1383 01:04:48,009 --> 01:04:50,845 She is one of the most selfless people I’ve ever met. 1384 01:04:50,845 --> 01:04:53,973 It’s been times where, even when working on his case, 1385 01:04:53,973 --> 01:04:55,683 I’m like, "Have you ate?" 1386 01:04:55,683 --> 01:04:58,019 Like, "Do you need me to feed you? 1387 01:04:58,019 --> 01:04:59,187 Do you want to take a break? 1388 01:04:59,187 --> 01:05:00,688 Go home!" 1389 01:05:00,688 --> 01:05:02,649 I’m still convinced she sleeps in the office, 1390 01:05:02,649 --> 01:05:05,610 but she says she doesn’t, but I’m convinced she does. 1391 01:05:05,610 --> 01:05:06,903 But she is definitely one 1392 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:08,571 of the most selfless people that I’ve met, 1393 01:05:08,571 --> 01:05:11,282 and her work ethic can’t be described. 1394 01:05:11,282 --> 01:05:14,202 I don’t think anybody works as hard as she does 1395 01:05:14,202 --> 01:05:16,287 for other people. 1396 01:05:16,287 --> 01:05:19,499 Not a moment of her life has anything to do with her. 1397 01:05:19,499 --> 01:05:23,086 It’s times where we have to make her celebrate herself. 1398 01:05:23,086 --> 01:05:26,131 But she will gladly celebrate everybody else, 1399 01:05:26,131 --> 01:05:28,133 and she wants everybody else to be happy 1400 01:05:28,133 --> 01:05:31,094 and be free before she even breathes. 1401 01:05:31,094 --> 01:05:33,721 -Are you crying? -No! No! 1402 01:05:33,721 --> 01:05:37,016 -Are you crying? -No! 1403 01:05:37,016 --> 01:05:38,977 I’m never crying. 1404 01:05:38,977 --> 01:05:41,771 I have never in my life. 1405 01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:42,897 No. 1406 01:05:42,897 --> 01:05:45,066 Bella, talk about yourself. 1407 01:05:45,066 --> 01:05:47,402 -Bella. She’s crying. -No, I’m not. 1408 01:05:47,402 --> 01:05:49,279 -♪ See you ♪ -No, I’m not! 1409 01:05:49,279 --> 01:05:51,823 -♪ See you ♪ -Mr. Douglas. 1410 01:05:51,823 --> 01:05:53,449 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1411 01:05:53,449 --> 01:05:55,201 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1412 01:05:55,201 --> 01:05:57,036 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1413 01:05:57,036 --> 01:05:58,788 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1414 01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:00,540 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1415 01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:02,333 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1416 01:06:02,333 --> 01:06:03,960 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1417 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,879 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1418 01:06:05,879 --> 01:06:07,547 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1419 01:06:07,547 --> 01:06:09,299 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1420 01:06:09,299 --> 01:06:11,050 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1421 01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:12,886 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1422 01:06:12,886 --> 01:06:14,762 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1423 01:06:14,762 --> 01:06:16,639 -♪ I ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1424 01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:19,517 ♪ Look, I see you taking care of your mama ♪ 1425 01:06:19,517 --> 01:06:22,061 ♪ And your business, I admire your ambition ♪ 1426 01:06:22,061 --> 01:06:23,813 ♪ Double tap, keep my distance ♪ 1427 01:06:23,813 --> 01:06:25,481 ♪ Don’t wanna hog your attention ♪ 1428 01:06:25,481 --> 01:06:27,567 ♪ Don’t fall in love, you’ll start tripping ♪ 1429 01:06:27,567 --> 01:06:29,319 ♪ I just want to bear witness ♪ 1430 01:06:29,319 --> 01:06:30,778 ♪ To the purpose you fulfill ♪ 1431 01:06:30,778 --> 01:06:34,032 ♪ And no time for Netflix and chilling ♪ 1432 01:06:34,032 --> 01:06:36,284 ♪ While all these debtors keep billing my grandma ♪ 1433 01:06:36,284 --> 01:06:37,452 ♪ God said, "Forgive them" ♪ 1434 01:06:37,452 --> 01:06:39,412 ♪ Ratio one to a million ♪ 1435 01:06:39,412 --> 01:06:41,206 ♪ Talking heroes to villains ♪ 1436 01:06:41,206 --> 01:06:42,749 ♪ Shout-out all the Black women 1437 01:06:42,749 --> 01:06:44,459 who out here raising their village ♪ 1438 01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:46,252 ♪ Pray no more pillars are pillaged ♪ 1439 01:06:46,252 --> 01:06:48,129 ♪ Do pride in the absence of privilege ♪ 1440 01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:49,672 ♪ I see you ♪ 1441 01:06:49,672 --> 01:06:51,424 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1442 01:06:51,424 --> 01:06:53,134 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1443 01:06:53,134 --> 01:06:54,844 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1444 01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:56,512 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1445 01:06:56,512 --> 01:06:58,223 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1446 01:06:58,223 --> 01:06:59,974 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1447 01:06:59,974 --> 01:07:01,684 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1448 01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:03,519 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1449 01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:05,230 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1450 01:07:05,230 --> 01:07:07,023 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1451 01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:08,733 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1452 01:07:08,733 --> 01:07:10,526 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1453 01:07:10,526 --> 01:07:12,195 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1454 01:07:12,195 --> 01:07:13,988 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1455 01:07:13,988 --> 01:07:15,823 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1456 01:07:15,823 --> 01:07:17,575 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1457 01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,410 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1458 01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:21,162 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1459 01:07:21,162 --> 01:07:22,956 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1460 01:07:22,956 --> 01:07:24,707 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1461 01:07:24,707 --> 01:07:26,459 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1462 01:07:26,459 --> 01:07:28,169 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1463 01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,963 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1464 01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:31,798 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1465 01:07:31,798 --> 01:07:33,424 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1466 01:07:33,424 --> 01:07:35,176 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1467 01:07:35,176 --> 01:07:36,928 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1468 01:07:36,928 --> 01:07:38,680 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1469 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,431 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1470 01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:42,267 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1471 01:07:42,267 --> 01:07:44,018 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1472 01:07:44,018 --> 01:07:46,354 -♪ I see you ♪ -♪ See you ♪ 1473 01:07:46,354 --> 01:07:48,273 If my dad was granted clemency, 1474 01:07:48,273 --> 01:07:50,191 oh, my goodness, um... 1475 01:07:50,191 --> 01:07:53,111 ♪ 1476 01:07:53,111 --> 01:07:57,657 Just knowing that he could be home 1477 01:07:57,657 --> 01:07:59,617 and that he would be home 1478 01:07:59,617 --> 01:08:01,536 and that I can actually... 1479 01:08:01,536 --> 01:08:05,415 ♪ 1480 01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:09,252 ...see him outside of a prison 1481 01:08:09,252 --> 01:08:12,547 and see him free, 1482 01:08:12,547 --> 01:08:17,260 that would mean everything to us. 1483 01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:20,930 My children. 1484 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:22,890 I know for my daughter, too. 1485 01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:24,975 ♪ 1486 01:08:24,975 --> 01:08:27,270 ’Cause she loves the guitar, and I know that... 1487 01:08:27,270 --> 01:08:29,272 ♪ 1488 01:08:29,272 --> 01:08:31,441 ...he could teach her a couple of things. 1489 01:08:31,441 --> 01:08:38,406 ♪ 1490 01:08:38,406 --> 01:08:42,452 Just having him home would mean everything. 1491 01:08:42,452 --> 01:08:44,412 Absolutely everything. 1492 01:08:44,412 --> 01:08:54,339 ♪ 1493 01:09:49,852 --> 01:09:55,817 Not only was I in prison, but I was locked up inside me 1494 01:09:55,817 --> 01:09:59,612 because I could not act as a free person. 1495 01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:03,741 Now I am free, because my mind is free, 1496 01:10:03,741 --> 01:10:05,535 my spirit is free. 1497 01:10:05,535 --> 01:10:09,539 And so I think that 1498 01:10:09,539 --> 01:10:13,126 I am free now 1499 01:10:13,126 --> 01:10:14,919 in more than one way. 1500 01:10:14,919 --> 01:10:24,846 ♪ 1501 01:10:33,813 --> 01:10:36,399 Good morning, everybody. 1502 01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,403 Another cold day. 1503 01:10:40,403 --> 01:10:43,698 Feels great to be free, though. 1504 01:10:43,698 --> 01:10:46,659 About to get my workday started. 1505 01:10:46,659 --> 01:10:49,077 (engines buzzing) 1506 01:10:49,077 --> 01:10:51,956 ♪ 1507 01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:53,541 The beauty of this situation 1508 01:10:53,541 --> 01:10:56,794 is working every day, 1509 01:10:56,794 --> 01:10:58,754 at the end of the day, 1510 01:10:58,754 --> 01:11:00,965 you have something to look forward to, 1511 01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:03,676 coming home to your family, 1512 01:11:03,676 --> 01:11:06,095 nice home-cooked meal. 1513 01:11:06,095 --> 01:11:08,556 ♪ 1514 01:11:08,556 --> 01:11:12,309 And the love of just being free. 1515 01:11:12,309 --> 01:11:18,107 ♪ 1516 01:11:27,909 --> 01:11:29,744 I’m just checking on you! 1517 01:11:29,744 --> 01:11:31,704 (indistinct talking) 1518 01:11:31,704 --> 01:11:34,332 Oh, y’all picked him up? 1519 01:11:34,332 --> 01:11:35,416 (gasping) 1520 01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:36,959 Ahhh! 1521 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:38,669 Let me talk to him! 1522 01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:48,596 ♪ 1523 01:11:54,936 --> 01:11:57,688 Hey, Jamelle! 1524 01:11:57,688 --> 01:12:01,442 So, you’re in the car, huh? 1525 01:12:01,442 --> 01:12:03,402 I’m missing your pickup. 1526 01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:06,197 But I told your family I’m gonna come over tomorrow. 1527 01:12:06,197 --> 01:12:09,116 Yeah, okay, I’m sending you hugs. 1528 01:12:09,116 --> 01:12:11,827 I’ll see you tomorrow. 1529 01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:13,746 Okay, all right. 1530 01:12:13,746 --> 01:12:18,709 ♪ 1531 01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:22,088 Thank you so much for being a conductor. 1532 01:12:23,798 --> 01:12:26,133 Thank you, okay, love you. 1533 01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:29,720 Okay. 1534 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,806 That was my other guy, he got out. 1535 01:12:31,806 --> 01:12:41,732 ♪ 1536 01:12:57,206 --> 01:13:07,133 ♪ 107464

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