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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:43,209 --> 00:00:47,254 Never in my wildest dreams 1 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:51,968 did I think when I told Gary something bad is gonna happen, 2 00:00:54,304 --> 00:00:56,514 did I think it was gonna be this. 3 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:01,101 I can't imagine 4 00:01:01,102 --> 00:01:03,729 what Gary must have been going through 5 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:05,230 and how he must have felt 6 00:01:05,231 --> 00:01:08,902 being so alone and so far out there. 7 00:01:12,614 --> 00:01:15,074 He said that the longer he stood 8 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:16,242 and looked at it, 9 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:22,456 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 10 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:25,919 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 11 00:02:55,633 --> 00:02:56,967 I first knew something was wrong 12 00:02:56,968 --> 00:03:00,137 when I was on the phone with my publisher, 13 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:03,056 and Simon kept trying to call in. 14 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:06,351 And so once I was off the phone with my publisher, 15 00:03:06,352 --> 00:03:10,063 I called Simon who's Gary's roommate. 16 00:03:10,064 --> 00:03:13,901 And he told me that Gary was two days late. 17 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:16,737 That's not Gary, 18 00:03:16,738 --> 00:03:17,906 you know, Gary, 19 00:03:18,907 --> 00:03:21,325 would never leave Tuca that long, 20 00:03:21,326 --> 00:03:24,411 especially knowing that Simon had to go out of town. 21 00:03:24,412 --> 00:03:26,413 That's when I knew that there was something wrong, 22 00:03:26,414 --> 00:03:27,539 and I needed to get there. 23 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:32,377 So I packed up and left Panaca and headed straight to Ruth. 24 00:03:32,378 --> 00:03:34,630 I needed to see what was going on 25 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:37,007 and make sure that my brother was okay. 26 00:03:37,008 --> 00:03:39,469 And to take care of Tuca until he could get back. 27 00:03:42,513 --> 00:03:44,182 I really thought he would be back. 28 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,103 I first met Gary when they were having an event 29 00:03:50,104 --> 00:03:52,439 at the Nevada Northern Railway. 30 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,402 And we both just kind of, wandered in each other's paths, 31 00:03:57,403 --> 00:03:59,947 and started talking about trains, 32 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:04,785 and, we were both looking for a place to stay. 33 00:04:04,786 --> 00:04:06,328 I was trying to find a place for work, 34 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:08,330 he was in between places, 35 00:04:08,331 --> 00:04:12,210 and we kind of just happened upon this place. 36 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:17,422 The first time I heard the name, Gary Hinge, 37 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:22,261 I believe was when I was working for the radio station NNN, 38 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:23,387 It was um.. 39 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:24,930 I was an investigative reporter, 40 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:26,765 it was my first job right out of the gate, 41 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,850 and my producer came to me and he was like, 42 00:04:28,851 --> 00:04:30,435 we have to cover this, 43 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:32,688 I think it's a good idea for us to do this, 44 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:35,607 because the TV stations, the news, 45 00:04:35,608 --> 00:04:36,942 had stopped recording on it. 46 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:39,277 And so this was a way for us to get exclusives 47 00:04:39,278 --> 00:04:40,487 and to keep the story going. 48 00:04:40,488 --> 00:04:43,615 Because according to everyone else that was hearing about it 49 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:47,411 and reporting about it, it had just gone cold. 50 00:04:47,412 --> 00:04:50,122 If you want me to describe my brother Gary, 51 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:54,502 the best way to describe him is, 52 00:04:55,628 --> 00:04:57,421 if there was a little lady that said, 53 00:04:57,422 --> 00:04:59,465 can you please watch my purse, 54 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:02,676 no matter where they were at, 55 00:05:02,677 --> 00:05:06,763 Gary would sit there and he would watch her purse 56 00:05:06,764 --> 00:05:10,100 and make sure that it was safe until she came back. 57 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:12,394 That was just the type of person that he was, 58 00:05:12,395 --> 00:05:17,400 he was trustworthy and amazing. 59 00:05:18,943 --> 00:05:19,943 Amazing. 60 00:05:21,612 --> 00:05:23,238 So Gary loved the outdoors, 61 00:05:23,239 --> 00:05:26,950 I mean, he was the king of outdoors. 62 00:05:26,951 --> 00:05:27,993 Let's just say that. 63 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:31,371 And I think a lot of people were really envious of him. 64 00:05:31,372 --> 00:05:34,249 Like he lived this beautiful adventurous life, 65 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:39,004 that I think, those who have the nine to five job, 66 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:40,213 stuck behind a desk, 67 00:05:40,214 --> 00:05:44,052 I think, really admired that about him. 68 00:05:45,261 --> 00:05:48,764 Super smart, but definitely private, 69 00:05:48,765 --> 00:05:51,183 he kind of just kept to himself. 70 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:56,189 If he wasn't in his room on his computer, 71 00:05:56,522 --> 00:05:59,317 then he was working on his model railroad. 72 00:06:01,527 --> 00:06:02,362 But other than that, 73 00:06:02,363 --> 00:06:04,988 yeah, just really kept to himself in his room 74 00:06:04,989 --> 00:06:06,199 making his videos. 75 00:06:08,367 --> 00:06:09,951 Super funny, though 76 00:06:09,952 --> 00:06:11,870 definitely could make you laugh 77 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:13,873 with a couple of his one liners. 78 00:06:17,502 --> 00:06:21,046 I started to learn more about who Gary was. 79 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:21,881 And I found out 80 00:06:21,882 --> 00:06:25,134 that he was an extremely highly intelligent man. 81 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:28,512 He's one of those people that was so smart 82 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:32,391 that kind of had a hard time connecting with other people. 83 00:06:33,351 --> 00:06:37,521 So he mostly just kind of was more, solitude, 84 00:06:37,522 --> 00:06:41,775 and yeah, fascinating. 85 00:06:41,776 --> 00:06:43,151 The more I found out about him, 86 00:06:43,152 --> 00:06:48,157 the more I wanted to keep finding out about, who is Gary? 87 00:07:03,297 --> 00:07:05,006 Gary had found his dream job, 88 00:07:05,007 --> 00:07:07,300 being such an avid outdoors man, 89 00:07:07,301 --> 00:07:11,805 he started to work for a startup company called Map Nevada. 90 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:13,807 Now what they do is, 91 00:07:13,808 --> 00:07:17,894 they map out really remote locations for hunters. 92 00:07:17,895 --> 00:07:22,900 So they track wildlife, weather, terrain, 93 00:07:23,025 --> 00:07:26,862 and I mean, Gary was in heaven doing this. 94 00:07:26,863 --> 00:07:31,868 He loved to be by himself out in the wilderness, 95 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:36,538 he loved hiking, 96 00:07:36,539 --> 00:07:40,334 and being adventurous, 97 00:07:41,419 --> 00:07:46,424 any train, he was drawn to, he loved trains. 98 00:07:50,595 --> 00:07:54,598 Hey guys filming another little YouTube video, 99 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:57,350 at one of my favorite places. 100 00:07:57,351 --> 00:08:01,605 If I had more time I would become one of the volunteers, 101 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:06,568 but this is the Nevada Northern Railway Museum, here in Ely. 102 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:09,529 And it's kind of an old little copper mine 103 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:11,823 just preserved and left. 104 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:13,074 They do some cool stuff, though, 105 00:08:13,075 --> 00:08:17,787 like you can sleep in this old caboose from Kennecott, 106 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:20,290 the big copper mine in the area, 107 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:21,959 right outside my home in Ruth. 108 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:25,629 It's kind of a neat little railroad museum, 109 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:27,673 they just kind of let you walk around. 110 00:08:29,717 --> 00:08:33,178 And you know how much I love trains on top of hiking, 111 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:34,638 gotta do something in the winter time 112 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:37,724 and you can't be outside as much. 113 00:08:37,725 --> 00:08:40,352 So I was really excited to take on this story, 114 00:08:40,353 --> 00:08:42,312 seeing that it was my first story. 115 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:43,813 And it also took place 116 00:08:43,814 --> 00:08:46,233 in this tiny little town called Ruth. 117 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:49,152 And so I grabbed the phone book, and I just started calling. 118 00:08:49,153 --> 00:08:51,112 And I wanted to talk to anybody and everybody 119 00:08:51,113 --> 00:08:52,198 that would talk to me. 120 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:56,618 I first knew something was off 121 00:08:56,619 --> 00:08:59,454 when he asked me to watch his dog Tuca 122 00:08:59,455 --> 00:09:02,707 before he went out on one of his trips. 123 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:05,043 And he never leaves Tuca. 124 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:07,212 He always takes the dog with him, 125 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:09,172 so I thought that was kind of weird. 126 00:09:09,173 --> 00:09:11,383 And he was acting super stressed out 127 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:14,177 even keeping to himself even more. 128 00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:17,974 When he didn't come back after two days, 129 00:09:19,517 --> 00:09:21,685 I thought that was really strange. 130 00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:23,061 I had a flight to catch, 131 00:09:23,062 --> 00:09:26,481 so I just called Beverly to get the dog. 132 00:09:26,482 --> 00:09:29,025 After I got off the phone with Simon, 133 00:09:29,026 --> 00:09:32,195 I tried Gary, and there was no answer, 134 00:09:32,196 --> 00:09:36,283 so I hurried and left and I went to Ruth from Panaca. 135 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:40,328 And it's only a couple hours away, 136 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:42,205 so when I got there, 137 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:45,542 Simon and Tuca were waiting on the front steps. 138 00:09:45,543 --> 00:09:48,211 Simon really needed to get to the airport in Las Vegas, 139 00:09:48,212 --> 00:09:51,632 so I asked him where Gary had gone to, 140 00:09:53,217 --> 00:09:57,679 and Simon didn't know, his roommate didn't even know, 141 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,223 he just knew that he was on an expedition. 142 00:10:00,224 --> 00:10:01,558 To me that wasn't right, 143 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,768 so I tried Gary a couple of more times, 144 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:05,478 and all it did was go to voicemail 145 00:10:05,479 --> 00:10:10,066 and something was definitely wrong. 146 00:10:10,067 --> 00:10:12,820 And so I called the police and waited. 147 00:10:22,038 --> 00:10:23,747 So I got Beverley's phone number, 148 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:26,666 and this is the only time that I ever talked to her. 149 00:10:26,667 --> 00:10:30,795 And she was pretty angry with me, 150 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:32,923 once I told her that I was a reporter. 151 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:36,468 And she did not want to have anything to do with me 152 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:39,346 or our show, which I thought was really unfortunate, 153 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:41,765 because, the news stations, 154 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:43,683 they had stopped recording on this, 155 00:10:43,684 --> 00:10:45,810 and we were the only ones doing anything, 156 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:48,271 and I thought this is a way to help find your brother, 157 00:10:48,272 --> 00:10:49,606 I don't understand why 158 00:10:49,607 --> 00:10:51,149 you don't want to give me the time or day, 159 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:53,568 but she didn't, and she quickly hung up. 160 00:10:53,569 --> 00:10:56,489 And that was the only time that I spoke to Beverly. 161 00:10:57,698 --> 00:11:01,868 Gary became so obsessed with survivalism, 162 00:11:01,869 --> 00:11:04,829 he would watch the Discovery Channel, 163 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:07,707 he would watch YouTube, 164 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:12,212 he would study it and find the most remote places, 165 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:16,383 no cell service, no provisions of any kind 166 00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:18,510 other than what he took. 167 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:23,474 And it used to scare the heavens out of me. 168 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:26,184 I mean, I was petrified for him, 169 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:27,894 and I would worry so much. 170 00:11:27,895 --> 00:11:30,189 But after a while, 171 00:11:31,816 --> 00:11:33,025 it was Gary. 172 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:37,821 So guys, I'm here hiking around, 173 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:41,116 and this is one of the cool secrets 174 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:42,826 I have in the wilds in Nevada 175 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:47,790 is this cemetery from the late 1800s old mining camp, 176 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:54,421 but I won't disclose the name for safety reasons. 177 00:11:54,422 --> 00:11:56,131 Don't want anyone getting lost out here, 178 00:11:56,132 --> 00:12:01,137 but you can see all these old graves, wood stones, 179 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,974 unmarked graves with no names now. 180 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:08,351 Give you an idea of where I had to hike from 181 00:12:08,352 --> 00:12:11,688 is that mountain way over there 182 00:12:11,689 --> 00:12:14,941 is my truck's on the other side of it. 183 00:12:14,942 --> 00:12:17,694 So hiked over that mountain 184 00:12:17,695 --> 00:12:22,657 and I'm way out this way now, hiking around. 185 00:12:22,658 --> 00:12:27,663 I wouldn't say what Gary was doing was hiking. 186 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:33,252 These were multiple day, like survival excursions. 187 00:12:35,296 --> 00:12:36,921 In the beginning, what gave me hope 188 00:12:36,922 --> 00:12:41,927 was the fact that when Gary was much younger, 189 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:46,139 much, much younger, like second grade, 190 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:51,145 we all went camping, and Gary disappeared from the campsite. 191 00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:56,065 And we searched for him and searched for him, 192 00:12:56,066 --> 00:12:59,569 and we were all so worried, mom and dad were just terrified, 193 00:12:59,570 --> 00:13:01,529 I was terrified. 194 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:02,739 We didn't wanna leave the mountain 195 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,699 to go and get cell service or anything, 196 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:07,660 we just went looking for him. 197 00:13:07,661 --> 00:13:11,498 And we looked for him all night. 198 00:13:11,499 --> 00:13:16,462 And the next morning we came up to a sheep herders camp, 199 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,797 thinking, we're gonna tell them look, 200 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,924 keep an eye out for this second grader, 201 00:13:20,925 --> 00:13:25,303 this second grader that was missing 202 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:30,226 and we walk up and there is my little brother Gary, 203 00:13:31,268 --> 00:13:33,937 playing with the animals. 204 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:37,065 He'd known that if he got to the sheep herders camp, 205 00:13:37,066 --> 00:13:37,900 he would be okay, 206 00:13:37,901 --> 00:13:40,527 that mom and dad would come and look for him. 207 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:45,533 And he was so resilient, it was in him, second nature. 208 00:13:47,868 --> 00:13:49,953 So after speaking to a bunch of people in Ruth, 209 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:53,039 I started to learn a little bit more about Beverly 210 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,460 and Beverly's relationship with Gary in the past. 211 00:13:57,461 --> 00:14:01,423 So she had a lot of anger towards Gary. 212 00:14:02,591 --> 00:14:06,636 She really blamed him for their parents' death. 213 00:14:06,637 --> 00:14:09,347 And then when their parents did pass away, 214 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:12,058 she was stuck, still raising Gary 215 00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:16,188 and so she held quite a lot of resentment against him. 216 00:14:17,815 --> 00:14:21,110 Well, I was mad at Gary when mom dad died, 217 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:24,320 they were out on a fishing trip 218 00:14:24,321 --> 00:14:27,449 and mom and dad liked to do some night fishing. 219 00:14:28,325 --> 00:14:32,287 And so they went out and did hang the lantern 220 00:14:32,288 --> 00:14:33,205 where they could see it, 221 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:35,039 so they could get back to shore safely, 222 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,793 back to camp without hitting any rocks. 223 00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:39,794 Old Gary decided 224 00:14:39,795 --> 00:14:42,422 that he was gonna go hunting frogs and everything 225 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:45,425 and so, and he went exploring. 226 00:14:45,426 --> 00:14:48,720 And while he's out there he hung the lantern up, 227 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:51,264 so that he could see what he was doing. 228 00:14:51,265 --> 00:14:52,473 Meanwhile, mom and dad 229 00:14:52,474 --> 00:14:54,559 decided that they were gonna come back in 230 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,269 and call it a night. 231 00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:58,147 So they headed for the lantern. 232 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:04,236 Not knowing that Gary had moved it while he was exploring 233 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:08,072 and so they followed the light. 234 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:13,078 And, it was the wrong spot. 235 00:15:13,787 --> 00:15:18,499 They didn't make it back because they hit the rocks, 236 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:23,505 and had Gary not hang the lantern up where he was at 237 00:15:24,131 --> 00:15:26,258 and left it where it needed to be, 238 00:15:28,135 --> 00:15:30,054 there wouldn't have been any problems. 239 00:15:33,098 --> 00:15:38,103 I just felt super bad for Beverly. 240 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:44,651 You know, I could just hear her 241 00:15:44,652 --> 00:15:48,030 inside Gary's room, sobbing. 242 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,786 You know, you're really making me miss my brother, Gary. 243 00:16:11,553 --> 00:16:14,806 Kept hearing people refer to Gary as a hiker. 244 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:18,559 And in my opinion, I don't really think that's correct. 245 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,146 Because, to me, Gary's more of a survivalist, 246 00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:27,152 he would go out into the wilderness for a week or two on end 247 00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:29,195 with just a backpack. 248 00:16:29,196 --> 00:16:32,573 He's kind of like the MacGyver of the wilderness, 249 00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:37,245 just to survive and live off of the land, 250 00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:39,747 and filter his on water. 251 00:16:39,748 --> 00:16:42,041 So, to hear them just be like, 252 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,335 oh, he's just a hiker gone missing. 253 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:45,461 He's not. 254 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:47,547 When Gary and I first started living together, 255 00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:50,925 I actually went out with him on one of these things. 256 00:16:50,926 --> 00:16:55,764 And I just kept telling myself the entire time, never again. 257 00:16:56,807 --> 00:16:59,308 Gary wouldn't let us bring enough food or water, 258 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:02,520 and it was the most miserable experience. 259 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:04,981 The one thing I did like about it 260 00:17:04,982 --> 00:17:08,860 was we kept on finding these 1800's 261 00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:11,696 abandoned mining kind of structures, 262 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:12,740 which was super cool. 263 00:17:14,616 --> 00:17:18,036 This wasn't a normal search and rescue. 264 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:23,041 Because, Gary didn't tell anybody where he was going 265 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,043 on his excursion. 266 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,837 And he would go really deep into the wilderness, 267 00:17:27,838 --> 00:17:31,299 and he'd be gone for a week or so, 268 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:35,928 so no one had any idea where to even start looking. 269 00:17:35,929 --> 00:17:40,516 And so police decided the best way, 270 00:17:40,517 --> 00:17:41,851 or the only thing they could think of 271 00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:44,937 was to maybe check his cell phone, 272 00:17:44,938 --> 00:17:48,316 and his cell phone pings in which tower. 273 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,611 And it looked to be as he had turned his cell phone off 274 00:17:51,612 --> 00:17:53,989 shortly after leaving his home. 275 00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:56,950 When Beverly showed up to get the dog. 276 00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:02,122 Yeah, I regret that now, I kind of lashed out at her. 277 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,126 I was so put off when I got to town, 278 00:18:07,127 --> 00:18:11,339 and he was so antsy to get out of there. 279 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:14,967 And, being my brother's roommate, 280 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:17,303 not even asking where he was gonna be, 281 00:18:17,304 --> 00:18:19,889 or, if there was gonna, 282 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:23,142 you know any issue that might set up a red flag 283 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:25,478 if he didn't come home. 284 00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:26,396 He had his dog and everything, 285 00:18:26,397 --> 00:18:28,941 and he knew he needed to be out of town. 286 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:33,069 I just didn't, 287 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:34,612 I didn't feel right about it, 288 00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:35,822 it just didn't feel right. 289 00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:39,200 And, a week or so before that, Gary had confided in me 290 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:42,286 that him and Simon weren't getting along very well, 291 00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:45,414 and so he wanted to move out. 292 00:18:45,415 --> 00:18:49,752 And so I just, 293 00:18:49,753 --> 00:18:53,631 it just didn't feel right, so I let the cops know. 294 00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:56,175 You know, I just don't trust him, 295 00:18:56,176 --> 00:19:00,680 there's just something to not be concerned at all, 296 00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:02,723 where your roommate's gonna be. 297 00:19:02,724 --> 00:19:07,186 And more worried about getting on a plane, 298 00:19:07,187 --> 00:19:11,357 than somebody missing that's supposed to be your friend, 299 00:19:11,358 --> 00:19:12,526 close to you? 300 00:19:13,902 --> 00:19:14,902 No. 301 00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:17,446 We never talked about that, 302 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:19,615 he never told me where he went hiking, ever, 303 00:19:19,616 --> 00:19:21,159 he never mentioned it. 304 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,119 And even if we did talk about it, 305 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,373 I'm pretty sure he probably wouldn't have told me, so. 306 00:19:27,374 --> 00:19:29,667 But at the beginning, I understood 307 00:19:29,668 --> 00:19:31,586 she needed someone to point the finger at 308 00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:35,047 and she was super upset, understandably. 309 00:19:35,048 --> 00:19:39,343 But after some time, it just kind of got old, 310 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:43,556 so I called her and I now told her that, 311 00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:46,976 there's no way I would have known and just by the way, 312 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:49,563 you're his sister, so why didn't you know? 313 00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:53,441 When I first reported Gary missing, 314 00:19:53,442 --> 00:19:55,484 the police were wonderful, 315 00:19:55,485 --> 00:20:00,114 they were really on top of it, they did an APB, 316 00:20:00,115 --> 00:20:03,160 be on the lookout for his truck, himself, 317 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:08,122 Park Rangers, Fish and Game, everything. 318 00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:09,540 You know, we live in a small town, 319 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:11,626 people don't go missing all the time. 320 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:14,003 And so this was a big deal, 321 00:20:14,004 --> 00:20:17,340 and they really took it seriously, 322 00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,343 they had it everywhere. 323 00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:23,054 I was embarrassed that I didn't know 324 00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:26,642 exactly where he was at, you know, I'm his sister, 325 00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:29,394 I should have known. 326 00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,483 I should have known. 327 00:20:58,048 --> 00:21:02,761 My first thought when I heard he was missing was, 328 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:08,976 oh, it'd be near impossible to find him. 329 00:21:10,852 --> 00:21:15,439 Either, he finally just injured himself, 330 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,402 or maybe he had eaten something 331 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:22,489 that he didn't know was gonna make him so sick. 332 00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:29,203 It'd been two days since I'd reported the missing 333 00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:33,417 and I hadn't slept more than 10 to 15 minutes at a time. 334 00:21:35,168 --> 00:21:38,587 I had people calling and were so concerned 335 00:21:38,588 --> 00:21:41,091 and wanted to know where to start looking for him. 336 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,218 But not knowing where he was at, 337 00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:46,221 where would I have them look? 338 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:52,352 And then the phone call came, they'd found Gary's truck. 339 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,926 And I got such a sinking feeling, 340 00:22:25,927 --> 00:22:28,262 such a sick to my stomach feeling 341 00:22:28,263 --> 00:22:32,642 that this was now very real. 342 00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:41,943 After the cops called in, 343 00:22:42,819 --> 00:22:44,153 and let me know that they'd found this truck, 344 00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:47,114 they came and picked me up and took me to it. 345 00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:50,534 It was about 55 miles out of town, 346 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:53,914 and we got there and seeing his truck, 347 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,293 I was so hopeful, you know, thinking, 348 00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:01,962 he probably fell, 349 00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:04,465 maybe broke an ankle, stuck in a ravine, 350 00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:05,716 can't get himself out. 351 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,719 But I had hope. 352 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,224 I really had hope that we were gonna find him okay. 353 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:16,561 It just wasn't in a place where Gary would have left it. 354 00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:19,563 Like it wasn't in a spot where he wanted, 355 00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,733 which he would wanna go to explore. 356 00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:25,736 While I was sitting there, 357 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:28,949 watching them process Gary's truck, I was looking around, 358 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,788 this wasn't Gary, 359 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:40,710 he loved to explore vast forests, rocky hills, 360 00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:48,093 beauty, not just a rolling hill of dirt. 361 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:53,682 It just, something wasn't right. 362 00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:11,824 I'm a private investigator. 363 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:15,579 I was hired by Beverly shortly after Gary's truck was found. 364 00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:20,417 The High Desert as you can see, 365 00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:26,547 it's very beautiful, 366 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:31,553 it's very majestic, has mountains, valleys, plains, forests, 367 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:34,054 it has it all. 368 00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:37,558 But it's also quite dangerous and very unforgiving. 369 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,145 So after Gary's truck was found, 370 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,317 a search began and people really rallied. 371 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:49,738 Gary went missing 372 00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:52,239 in the hottest part of the summer. 373 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,951 And what we see most of the time in disappearance like his 374 00:24:55,952 --> 00:25:00,789 is people suffering from heatstroke, 375 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:04,336 dehydration, sometimes even injury. 376 00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:08,297 People started showing up 377 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,175 and then more people started showing up, 378 00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,261 and next thing I know, it's a whole whirlwind, 379 00:25:14,262 --> 00:25:18,892 there were people there that I didn't know, 380 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:22,019 that Gary didn't know, 381 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,939 there were people bringing drones, 382 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:26,690 all kinds of search and rescue. 383 00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:30,027 It was the most humbling experience 384 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:35,033 to know that these strangers were out there helping 385 00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:39,204 to try to find my brother and bring him home. 386 00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:55,845 So once Gary's truck was found, Beverly was, 387 00:25:57,264 --> 00:25:59,056 let's just say she was very vocal 388 00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:02,559 about how the truck seemed to be parked 389 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,270 in a suspicious location, 390 00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:05,604 like she was just convinced 391 00:26:05,605 --> 00:26:08,190 that her brother had not parked it there, 392 00:26:08,191 --> 00:26:09,984 her brother wouldn't park it there, 393 00:26:09,985 --> 00:26:12,779 and she would not stop talking about it. 394 00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:17,950 So the cops eventually looked into this. 395 00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,660 The clock was ticking. 396 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:22,956 They very much needed to find Gary as soon as possible. 397 00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:27,876 Beverly, on the other hand, was very much in their way. 398 00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:32,882 She was in the way, and she was really messing things up. 399 00:26:33,508 --> 00:26:36,093 Searching the high desert isn't easy, 400 00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:37,428 I mean, it's not an easy task. 401 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:38,346 People think it is, 402 00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:40,931 people think you can just get up in the air in a helicopter 403 00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:45,937 and fly around and look at the ground and see someone, 404 00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:51,150 but once you're on the ground, there's abandoned mines, 405 00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,652 there's bushes and tree cover. 406 00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:56,238 And it's super difficult. 407 00:26:56,239 --> 00:27:00,118 So finding someone, it's not easy as people think it is. 408 00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:03,246 Oh my god, sheep. 409 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,623 Hi sheep. 410 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:06,708 Look at all the sheep. 411 00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:09,377 Sheep are a lot nicer than people. 412 00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:14,131 Hey little sheep, 413 00:27:15,675 --> 00:27:16,718 look at all you guys. 414 00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:23,933 Roaming the land, doing what you need to do. 415 00:27:28,605 --> 00:27:30,689 Jeez, they all ran away from me. 416 00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:32,484 Can't even make friends with sheep. 417 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:40,200 The officers didn't want me to participate in the search. 418 00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:46,914 They thought it was best that I stay home at Gary's place 419 00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:51,920 in case he tried to contact me, call or show up. 420 00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:56,173 I was very much familiar with the lead investigator. 421 00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:57,966 We had worked together before, 422 00:27:57,967 --> 00:28:00,387 and we were definitely familiar with each other. 423 00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:04,139 I called him to kind of check up on things 424 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:08,018 and see where the investigation was headed, 425 00:28:08,019 --> 00:28:10,771 and if they had any new information. 426 00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:13,733 He told me that they had made a discovery in the truck. 427 00:28:23,827 --> 00:28:27,329 But since I was not formally hired by Beverley, 428 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,040 I had to contact her first 429 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,544 before they would discuss the matter with me. 430 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:38,383 I was hopeful that they had good news, 431 00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:45,348 that the officer asked me if Gary had any enemies, 432 00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:50,019 or if I knew anybody that may wanna hurt him. 433 00:28:52,605 --> 00:28:54,649 I asked the officer why, 434 00:28:56,192 --> 00:28:57,192 why would he, 435 00:28:58,027 --> 00:28:59,236 why would he ask that. 436 00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:04,242 And in confidence, they told me that they had evidence 437 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,709 that Gary did not drive his truck out there. 438 00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:28,682 So I waited a couple of hours 439 00:29:28,683 --> 00:29:31,727 and went over to Gary's house where Beverly was staying, 440 00:29:31,728 --> 00:29:34,605 and she was absolutely hysterical. 441 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:37,399 She told me that the police had informed her 442 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,988 that in Gary's truck they had discovered prints 443 00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:47,869 on top of Gary's all over, on top of the steering wheel, 444 00:29:47,994 --> 00:29:50,704 the dashboard, the gear 445 00:29:50,705 --> 00:29:55,710 and what was most surprising or alarming 446 00:29:56,002 --> 00:30:01,007 was that they discovered footprints, bare footprints, 447 00:30:01,674 --> 00:30:06,679 and they were scarred and unidentifiable, 448 00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,517 which even added more to the mystery. 449 00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:19,776 The footprint was, 450 00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:26,491 he said that it was barefoot. 451 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:40,088 So someone drove Gary's truck barefoot. 452 00:30:41,631 --> 00:30:44,132 And it just doesn't sit well with me, 453 00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:46,552 because it's like, what happened? 454 00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:49,138 Why was this person not wearing shoes? 455 00:30:50,723 --> 00:30:51,932 What was going on? 456 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:54,059 Like, it's just odd, 457 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,395 and it's very, 458 00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:59,190 I don't know, it's just, 459 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,943 it made my skin crawl. 460 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:06,280 Oh, look at the little baby deer. 461 00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:09,158 That's kind of cool to see, you don't see that too often. 462 00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:46,361 You know, I hadn't been sleeping and everything, 463 00:31:46,362 --> 00:31:49,157 and my mind was just reeling, 464 00:31:50,658 --> 00:31:52,326 I had a lot of things going through my head, 465 00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:53,745 different scenarios. 466 00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:57,123 Maybe he picked up a friend? 467 00:31:58,916 --> 00:32:02,170 Maybe somebody stole his truck while he was out hiking? 468 00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:06,632 Or maybe he picked up a hitchhiker, 469 00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:11,638 and the hitchhiker had done something to him. 470 00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:17,476 I don't know, at this point, 471 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,062 so many things were just going through my head, 472 00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:24,191 just over and over again, 473 00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:28,780 which didn't help me try to get any sleep. 474 00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:43,418 So Beverly, still wanted me to vet out Simon 475 00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:47,297 because she still thought he was very suspicious. 476 00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,507 And I did too. 477 00:32:48,508 --> 00:32:49,549 I looked into him again, 478 00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:54,138 and lo and behold, he was ruled out as a suspect. 479 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:57,224 But through that process, 480 00:32:57,225 --> 00:33:01,061 I actually learned that Gary had been talking 481 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,898 to someone that he met on a Facebook Messenger group. 482 00:33:05,191 --> 00:33:07,401 They had been corresponding with each other 483 00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:09,945 through a local sellers group, 484 00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,323 and I guess they had been commenting on each other's posts 485 00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:14,491 and one thing led to another 486 00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:18,204 and they became more than friends. 487 00:33:19,288 --> 00:33:24,252 When I confronted this person, he was very much terrified, 488 00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:25,711 didn't wanna talk to me, 489 00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,087 didn't wanna have anything to do with me 490 00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:28,088 or the investigation. 491 00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:29,840 And I told him, if you don't talk to me, 492 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,466 you're gonna have to talk to the cops, 493 00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,468 and they're gonna really bust your ass. 494 00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:35,303 And I think he was terrified 495 00:33:35,304 --> 00:33:37,015 of being outed in this community, 496 00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:42,937 because it's such a small town, not a lot of gay people. 497 00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:46,857 And so he did talk to me, he told me that, 498 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,985 he didn't have anything to do with Gary's disappearance. 499 00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:54,531 He was sad and upset that Gary had disappeared, 500 00:33:54,532 --> 00:33:57,075 he didn't know what happened to him. 501 00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,536 I guess I did believe him. 502 00:33:59,746 --> 00:34:01,580 He really didn't wanna discuss it, 503 00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:04,374 but ultimately, when I did check out his alibi, 504 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:07,211 he was cleared as a suspect. 505 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:15,635 Hey guys, now that I'm done chasing sheep around 506 00:34:15,636 --> 00:34:17,722 like a crazy person in the mountains. 507 00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,224 I've seen a lot out here, mining camps, 508 00:34:21,225 --> 00:34:26,230 mines, abandoned towns, buildings, remnants of the past, 509 00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,232 but the coolest and my favorite personally, 510 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,735 is all the Native American remnants, 511 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,403 I love finding arrowheads 512 00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:36,740 and seeing petroglyphs on mountain sides. 513 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:39,534 Just old writing from the native people 514 00:34:39,535 --> 00:34:43,121 who lived here long before any settlers moved in. 515 00:34:43,122 --> 00:34:45,248 To me, that's the coolest stuff to see. 516 00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:47,501 But it's getting dark now, the sun's setting 517 00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:50,420 I think I'm gonna call it a night and get settled in, 518 00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:51,421 in my camp. 519 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:56,635 They were still processing the crime scene and everything 520 00:34:56,636 --> 00:35:01,641 and they came across an envelope in his center console, 521 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,769 it had a money in it. 522 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:10,942 To me that said that whoever he was with, 523 00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:15,153 wasn't there to take his money 524 00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,782 or anything that he might have had. 525 00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:39,846 I woke to the police officers knocking on my door. 526 00:35:43,891 --> 00:35:46,978 And they were informing me that they called off the search. 527 00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,690 And while they're explaining things to me, 528 00:35:52,024 --> 00:35:53,401 I'm seeing them talking, 529 00:35:56,362 --> 00:35:58,155 I'm not comprehending any of the it, 530 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,285 everything was just kind of flashing. 531 00:36:03,286 --> 00:36:07,873 And, I'm seeing their faces, and I'm seeing their lips move, 532 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,751 and then they're looking at me like I'm crazy. 533 00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:15,631 And next thing I know, I'm on a stretcher. 534 00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:27,977 And taken to the ER where they had to give me hydration 535 00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:34,233 and IV with fluids and medicine that helped me sleep, 536 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,781 and for the first time since all of this started, 537 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:43,784 I got 10 hours of sleep. 538 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:47,454 This was the largest search and rescue 539 00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:49,581 that Nevada had ever seen. 540 00:36:49,582 --> 00:36:53,585 And when they finally called it off, 541 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:55,962 everyone was just so shocked. 542 00:36:55,963 --> 00:36:59,841 But, you mean, you can't search the entire state of Nevada, 543 00:36:59,842 --> 00:37:02,177 it's just too vast, it's too broad, 544 00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:07,140 and it had been so long that the chances of finding him 545 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:11,269 and finding him alive were slim to none. 546 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:13,563 The investigation was dead in the water, 547 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:15,565 we didn't have any leads, 548 00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:18,568 the fingerprints in the truck didn't match any database, 549 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,820 so we didn't know what to do. 550 00:37:20,821 --> 00:37:21,821 But then. 551 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:30,665 Gary's followers started calling. 552 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,297 And this whole thing was turned on its head. 553 00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:42,050 So I'm at my desk, 554 00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:44,135 and I'm going through the show notes, 555 00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:45,470 I'm getting ready to go on air 556 00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:47,597 and my producer comes through my door, and he's like, 557 00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:50,934 you have a phone call, you have to take this phone call. 558 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:54,771 And I get on the phone, and it's one of our listeners. 559 00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:59,317 And he's telling me that I have to look into Gary's blog. 560 00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:03,780 He's going on and on about this crazy story about Gary, 561 00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:08,034 and he's telling me that he thinks he knows where he is, 562 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:11,246 he thinks he knows what happened to him. 563 00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:15,710 And that I have to go and look at this blog right now. 564 00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,336 My friend Monica calls me 565 00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:21,506 and tells me that it's all over the news 566 00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:26,512 that all these people are calling into the radio station. 567 00:38:26,887 --> 00:38:31,099 And she tells me that they're talking about Gary's blog 568 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,977 and the fact that it needs to be read 569 00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:35,937 and that there's comments and everything. 570 00:38:35,938 --> 00:38:40,150 And so once I got discharged, 571 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,651 I went straight to Gary's house, 572 00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:45,155 so I could read the blog and see what all this was 573 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,157 that they were talking about. 574 00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,701 Unfortunately, Beverly found out about Gary's blog 575 00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:53,246 hours before we did, and she went right over there, 576 00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:55,415 and really messed things up. 577 00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,959 Hey guys, it's me again. 578 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,794 A lot of people have been following the blog 579 00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:01,671 and new to the blog and been saying, 580 00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:04,758 I'm just trying to copy "Naked and Afraid". 581 00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:08,345 And as you can tell, I'm not naked or afraid out here, 582 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,514 so I'm not trying to copy the show and, 583 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,851 also my ex loved that show, so I'm sick of it, 584 00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:17,645 there's a reason why people are called exes. 585 00:39:17,646 --> 00:39:20,357 So while I'm trying to navigate through everything 586 00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:22,400 on his blog, 587 00:39:22,401 --> 00:39:24,778 going through the operator stuff and everything 588 00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:31,160 and I finally get in there and I realize he has 50,000, 589 00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:34,371 50,000 viewers. 590 00:39:37,124 --> 00:39:39,042 I was shocked. 591 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,629 Not a single person in Gary's life knew about his blog, 592 00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,047 which was really shocking 593 00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:47,009 considering the fact that he had 50,000 followers. 594 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,430 That really says something, if you think about it. 595 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,312 Of course, I immediately jump on my computer 596 00:39:59,313 --> 00:40:03,817 and I go to his blog, and I'll never forget the title, 597 00:40:03,818 --> 00:40:05,652 because I actually thought it was really clever. 598 00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:09,280 It was called "Don't Hike With Headphones". 599 00:40:09,281 --> 00:40:11,324 Hey guys up here at the top of the mountain, 600 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:15,371 as you can see, there's the great view behind me. 601 00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:19,958 One of the questions I've got asked on the blog a lot was, 602 00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:21,918 what dangers, 603 00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:24,003 are there any threatening animals 604 00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:25,839 like rattlesnakes and mountain lions? 605 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,634 And, yeah, there're rattlesnakes at the lower elevations, 606 00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,886 you might have noticed I don't hike with headphones 607 00:40:31,887 --> 00:40:34,430 or anything on so I can listen for them. 608 00:40:34,431 --> 00:40:37,851 And it's your basic, survivalist type blog, 609 00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:41,229 you know, how to build a fire, how to filter water, 610 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,106 and I just start scrolling through 611 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,066 and I scroll and scroll all the way to the, 612 00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:47,861 like the latest videos that he had posted. 613 00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,404 I'm trying to navigate 614 00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:52,615 to find out where these notifications are coming from 615 00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:56,077 because he is getting notification after notification, 616 00:40:56,078 --> 00:40:59,539 I mean, it's ding, ding, ding, ding. 617 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:02,834 So I was driving when I found out Gary had a blog, 618 00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:06,796 I pulled over and looked for it on my phone. 619 00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:09,007 And the first thing that I noticed 620 00:41:09,008 --> 00:41:10,800 was that he didn't go by his real name, 621 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:13,261 he went by Scorpion Sam. 622 00:41:13,262 --> 00:41:15,513 My biggest thing I've ever ran into 623 00:41:15,514 --> 00:41:18,099 was I got stung by a scorpion, 624 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,602 kicking over a rock once, 625 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:25,190 had to go to the hospital once I got back to my truck, 626 00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:27,776 that was the day I hiked with a swelling up hand. 627 00:41:29,403 --> 00:41:32,155 I'm finally able to get to the notifications 628 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:34,407 and this notification pops up 629 00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:37,870 and they're saying, I bet he found it, 630 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,624 and that something bad happened, 631 00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:47,630 and I'm thinking, they're saying he found it? 632 00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:50,006 And something bad happened? 633 00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:51,383 Found what? 634 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,846 And then came Gary's now infamous video post. 635 00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,308 I have worked a lot of strange cases in my career, 636 00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:05,022 and Gary's by far was the most unusual, 637 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,858 just the way that he described what he was looking at, 638 00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:12,987 what he saw, how terrified he was, 639 00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:17,993 it just really scares me. 640 00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:24,666 So I started watching the second to last video 641 00:42:24,667 --> 00:42:25,917 on Gary's blog. 642 00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:28,670 And he's at his home and he's sitting there 643 00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:31,090 and he's telling his viewers 644 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:37,303 basically what he came across on his last expedition. 645 00:42:37,304 --> 00:42:39,973 I saw his last three videos 646 00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:40,974 and, 647 00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:44,812 what I saw, 648 00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,568 changed everything. 649 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:03,371 He's pretty worked up in this video, 650 00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:06,541 you can tell he's nervous, he's scared. 651 00:43:06,542 --> 00:43:08,711 As soon as his video started, 652 00:43:11,171 --> 00:43:15,883 I could tell he was troubled by something, 653 00:43:15,884 --> 00:43:18,470 something had him so unnerved. 654 00:43:19,847 --> 00:43:22,849 He was three days into his expedition, 655 00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:27,270 and he started to smell smoke and that, 656 00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:29,355 and he was out in the middle of nowhere. 657 00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:34,278 So he got curious and started to look around. 658 00:43:35,154 --> 00:43:36,988 He comes across this cabin, 659 00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,950 and it's not like a nice cabin, it's like a makeshift cabin, 660 00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:45,956 almost kind of like a homeless type of structure, 661 00:43:46,165 --> 00:43:47,498 sticks and twigs, 662 00:43:47,499 --> 00:43:50,878 and there's smoke coming out of the chimney. 663 00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:56,758 And Gary's not someone to be scared of someone else, 664 00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:57,759 out in the wilderness, 665 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,765 but he said he was just like frozen in his tracks, 666 00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:06,976 and he just felt this like sixth sense 667 00:44:06,977 --> 00:44:10,105 of basically impending doom. 668 00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:15,818 It was the look on his face, that really got to me, 669 00:44:15,819 --> 00:44:19,114 when he described this cabin out in Nevada. 670 00:44:21,742 --> 00:44:25,329 He said that the longer he stood and looked at it 671 00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:31,626 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 672 00:44:31,627 --> 00:44:34,962 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 673 00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:38,841 And he wanted nothing to do with that place. 674 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:42,345 And so, he hightails it out of there 675 00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:46,516 and he goes to sleep in his tent, 676 00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:51,104 I remember this because he talks about how he was so scared, 677 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:54,023 he slept with his shoes on all night. 678 00:44:54,024 --> 00:44:55,566 You know, he didn't bring his firearms, 679 00:44:55,567 --> 00:45:00,572 so he was totally just vulnerable out there and terrified. 680 00:45:02,783 --> 00:45:07,788 And he wakes up the next morning, and there's footprints, 681 00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:11,249 and they're barefoot footprints. 682 00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,459 These two things are now connected, 683 00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:14,753 we had something to go on. 684 00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,889 The hike back to his track, 685 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,766 which took three days, 686 00:45:28,767 --> 00:45:32,187 he felt like somebody was following him. 687 00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:38,985 So this was a really sad story to me, 688 00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:42,155 to see Gary's followers turn on him, 689 00:45:42,156 --> 00:45:44,907 that blog was everything to him. 690 00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:49,913 He really admired them, and their comments, 691 00:45:52,499 --> 00:45:54,834 it was something really special to him. 692 00:45:54,835 --> 00:45:59,840 And to see them go from loving him to bullying him, 693 00:46:00,507 --> 00:46:03,634 calling him a loser, a liar, 694 00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:07,556 and putting him down, it was really sad to see. 695 00:46:09,892 --> 00:46:12,226 And the comments are like, 696 00:46:12,227 --> 00:46:15,898 everyone's kind of just like, well, go back, 697 00:46:16,732 --> 00:46:18,399 take video, show us this place, 698 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,194 does this place even exist, is this even real? 699 00:46:21,195 --> 00:46:23,821 And he's getting like really hit by his followers, 700 00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,784 basically, they're kind of bullying him, 701 00:46:27,659 --> 00:46:30,328 they don't believe that he came across this, 702 00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:33,831 they go to his blog for a reason, 703 00:46:33,832 --> 00:46:35,666 and now they feel like he's just 704 00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:38,586 getting into ghost stories or something. 705 00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:39,587 And so they, 706 00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:45,259 I really feel like he fell into a bit of cyber bullying 707 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:50,139 and the fact that they were not gonna be 708 00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:51,849 his faithful followers anymore, 709 00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:56,479 unless he goes back and proves that he saw this, 710 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,398 he experienced this. 711 00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:07,615 You know, it broke my heart to read the comments 712 00:47:07,616 --> 00:47:12,621 that said that he was nothing but a lonely loser, 713 00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:16,415 and that all he was doing 714 00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:20,711 was trying to get attention by making shit up 715 00:47:20,712 --> 00:47:23,799 and that they didn't believe him. 716 00:47:25,592 --> 00:47:27,761 I actually didn't know about the blog, 717 00:47:28,595 --> 00:47:31,347 but I knew he was doing something 718 00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:36,227 because he was always in the backyard making videos, 719 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,438 telling the camera how to make a campfire, 720 00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:41,607 or I always heard him in his room 721 00:47:41,608 --> 00:47:43,694 like giving survival tips and things. 722 00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:47,239 Hey, guys, just walking through the woods here. 723 00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:50,741 It's a beautiful day in the backwoods in Nevada. 724 00:47:50,742 --> 00:47:52,660 But a lot of people asked what I would do 725 00:47:52,661 --> 00:47:54,079 if I got lost back here, 726 00:47:55,247 --> 00:47:59,500 I had to spends several more days than I planned on, 727 00:47:59,501 --> 00:48:00,835 I guess first thing I would do 728 00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:04,673 would be find a nice nutritious cow patty, 729 00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:07,758 because there're so yummy. 730 00:48:07,759 --> 00:48:11,053 I'm just kidding, you don't wanna eat cow shit. 731 00:48:11,054 --> 00:48:12,054 That will be bad. 732 00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:15,893 But there are ways you can scavenger for food out here. 733 00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:26,194 I'm so upset by everything and, 734 00:48:27,112 --> 00:48:31,782 I wanted to download this 735 00:48:31,783 --> 00:48:35,494 and do what I could so that I could take it to the cops, 736 00:48:35,495 --> 00:48:40,500 and during all the frustration and the upset and everything, 737 00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:45,005 I accidentally deleted it. 738 00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:51,010 Beverly really beat herself up about deleting the video, 739 00:48:51,011 --> 00:48:53,971 and I felt bad for her. 740 00:48:53,972 --> 00:48:57,683 I didn't wanna press it because I knew she felt terrible, 741 00:48:57,684 --> 00:48:59,935 her brother was missing. 742 00:48:59,936 --> 00:49:04,148 But it was a missed opportunity definitely, 743 00:49:04,149 --> 00:49:05,817 and a definite disappointment. 744 00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:11,782 The last video of Gary on that blog, 745 00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:16,577 is him basically telling his followers, 746 00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:19,915 okay, here I go, I'll go back. 747 00:49:20,916 --> 00:49:22,584 And he doesn't look okay about it. 748 00:49:23,543 --> 00:49:27,964 Gary's final video is truly haunting. 749 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:32,427 And it is really the beginning of a bigger mystery. 750 00:49:35,263 --> 00:49:39,725 Gary's last video that he posted to his blog 751 00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:43,730 said that he was gonna go back out 752 00:49:46,316 --> 00:49:50,945 and record everything and prove to everyone 753 00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:55,158 that this was real, that this really existed. 754 00:50:00,914 --> 00:50:04,959 It's the last time that he ever posted anything 755 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,586 or anybody heard from him. 756 00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:31,569 Hey guys, I'm back. 757 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:32,611 Wanted to make a video 758 00:50:32,612 --> 00:50:35,991 about the different comments people left on my last video. 759 00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:40,953 A lot of you were coming up with some crazy theories, 760 00:50:40,954 --> 00:50:44,291 what was out there, what I saw in the woods. 761 00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,460 Some of you don't believe it, 762 00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,336 some of you are asking for the location 763 00:50:49,337 --> 00:50:52,047 and wanna find it yourself. 764 00:50:52,048 --> 00:50:53,758 I'm really against people going out 765 00:50:53,759 --> 00:50:57,011 in the backwoods in Nevada without experience, 766 00:50:57,012 --> 00:50:58,721 there's a lot dangers out there, 767 00:50:58,722 --> 00:51:02,183 from old mines to just random people 768 00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:04,435 and you can get lost easily, 769 00:51:04,436 --> 00:51:06,729 the scenery looks a lot the same, 770 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:08,773 and if there's no trails, 771 00:51:08,774 --> 00:51:12,276 you can get lost and turn around and be out there for days. 772 00:51:12,277 --> 00:51:14,445 And if you don't bring enough food or water, 773 00:51:14,446 --> 00:51:15,530 you're in real danger. 774 00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:19,116 So I don't wanna give out the location 775 00:51:19,117 --> 00:51:23,078 and just be the one that causes a whole bunch of people 776 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,040 to go out in the backwoods in Nevada. 777 00:51:26,124 --> 00:51:29,168 I'll go out there, find the shelter again. 778 00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:32,129 This time, I'll bring my camera and firearm, 779 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:33,839 I have to do some work first, 780 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,550 but I plan on leaving on the 22nd, 781 00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:39,387 and I'll need a good six days to be out there again. 782 00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:43,265 It's a good three days in, and three days back, 783 00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:45,684 but we're gonna find out what this is, 784 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:49,563 and look forward to another video, 785 00:51:49,564 --> 00:51:51,233 once we finally get out there, 786 00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:54,277 I'll have something for you guys posted. 787 00:52:01,326 --> 00:52:03,244 He goes and that's it. 788 00:52:03,245 --> 00:52:04,538 And that's the last, 789 00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:08,040 that's the last video of Gary. 790 00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,545 And no one knows where he was going. 791 00:52:12,754 --> 00:52:17,174 So the search is so vast and Nevada is huge, 792 00:52:17,175 --> 00:52:20,428 and he could be anywhere. 793 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:37,279 This place that he talks about could be anywhere. 794 00:52:41,867 --> 00:52:43,284 This became a perfect storm 795 00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:46,871 because now we knew what Gary was doing, 796 00:52:46,872 --> 00:52:48,623 we just had no idea where. 797 00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:54,880 I had no idea that he had this whole other life, 798 00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:57,965 this blog, all these followers and everything 799 00:52:57,966 --> 00:52:59,175 had I known that, 800 00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:04,598 I would have never, ever, let him go back out there. 801 00:53:05,891 --> 00:53:09,019 This whole case turned from a missing persons 802 00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:12,897 to a huge mystery. 803 00:53:12,898 --> 00:53:14,398 Whose cabin was this? 804 00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:16,233 I mean, who lives out there? 805 00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:17,401 Where is this cabin? 806 00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:19,904 I mean, if it's in the middle of nowhere, 807 00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:23,324 what type of person lives in the middle of nowhere? 808 00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:27,244 And if you're about to go find that person, 809 00:53:27,245 --> 00:53:29,705 I don't know if they're gonna be too happy to be found. 810 00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:32,166 I mean, if they're out there that far, 811 00:53:32,167 --> 00:53:34,169 they're out there that far for a reason. 812 00:53:40,425 --> 00:53:43,844 Once the radio station broadcasts about it, 813 00:53:43,845 --> 00:53:45,679 his blog and everything, 814 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,932 everybody just went crazy 815 00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:50,267 before the cops could even take it down. 816 00:53:50,268 --> 00:53:55,273 The conspiracy theories were just everywhere, 817 00:53:55,482 --> 00:54:00,487 from witches to aliens, area 51, you name it. 818 00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:04,448 People started coming out of the woodwork 819 00:54:04,449 --> 00:54:06,450 and everyone had a theory 820 00:54:06,451 --> 00:54:11,456 as to who the cabin belonged to, what was in the cabin. 821 00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:16,961 There were some comments about Gary had discovered a witch, 822 00:54:16,962 --> 00:54:19,672 and she was making secret potions 823 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,049 and somehow he had gotten involved, 824 00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:26,220 and I mean it was crazy. 825 00:54:26,221 --> 00:54:28,055 Other people thought it was just a hermit, 826 00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:30,558 you know someone who just wanted to be left alone. 827 00:54:32,268 --> 00:54:34,688 People thought that maybe it was a government, 828 00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:39,109 secret government operation, aliens. 829 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:42,737 I mean it's, 830 00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:44,947 I could go on and on 831 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:47,533 about the many theories that people thought. 832 00:54:47,534 --> 00:54:49,952 The only reasonable explanation I could come up with 833 00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:52,997 was maybe, Gary had stumbled upon 834 00:54:52,998 --> 00:54:56,083 an illegal marijuana growing operation 835 00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:58,295 out there in the middle of nowhere in Nevada 836 00:54:59,254 --> 00:55:03,049 and they killed him for it, it has happened before. 837 00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:05,300 But, 838 00:55:07,721 --> 00:55:08,805 I was wrong. 839 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:17,856 I just couldn't shake this sickening feeling. 840 00:55:28,408 --> 00:55:30,242 Before I knew it, the cops showed up 841 00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:32,619 and they had known all about his blog 842 00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:36,081 and I was actually on the computer when they got there. 843 00:55:36,082 --> 00:55:40,627 And they gathered everything up, seized everything, 844 00:55:40,628 --> 00:55:43,047 including his hard drives. 845 00:55:43,048 --> 00:55:44,673 Guys, 846 00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:46,133 another model train video here, 847 00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:48,761 I just got back from a flea market, 848 00:55:48,762 --> 00:55:51,097 and look what I picked up today. 849 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,478 Got a nice little HO diesel locomotive, 850 00:55:57,479 --> 00:55:59,563 lettered for one of my favorite railroads, 851 00:55:59,564 --> 00:56:01,649 it's called the California Western, 852 00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:04,736 out of Northern California. 853 00:56:07,739 --> 00:56:09,948 Set that down. 854 00:56:09,949 --> 00:56:14,954 Then got this brand new steam engine for the Santa Fe. 855 00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:27,674 My private investigator called and said that, 856 00:56:27,675 --> 00:56:32,680 the detectives on the case wanted to meet with me. 857 00:56:32,722 --> 00:56:36,601 So I ended up going down to the precinct and, 858 00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,606 they kept asking me, is there anything you need? 859 00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:44,192 Have you eaten today? 860 00:56:45,318 --> 00:56:47,736 Just beating around the bush 861 00:56:47,737 --> 00:56:52,742 and I finally asked them, what is going on? 862 00:56:54,577 --> 00:56:55,577 It's back on. 863 00:56:58,248 --> 00:57:00,082 We are back with a break in the case 864 00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:02,251 of missing hiker, Gary Hinge. 865 00:57:02,252 --> 00:57:04,253 Was made yesterday when his backpack 866 00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:08,382 was discovered by a couple camping in White Pine County. 867 00:57:08,383 --> 00:57:09,842 When they woke up in the morning, 868 00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:10,968 they found the backpack 869 00:57:10,969 --> 00:57:14,096 had been intentionally placed in their campsite. 870 00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:15,639 What they found inside 871 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,184 has sent a shockwave through the state of Nevada. 872 00:57:19,185 --> 00:57:23,230 Hinge's truck was found parked in Eureka earlier this month. 873 00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:25,441 But police now say they have evidence 874 00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:26,817 that it was parked there, 875 00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:29,820 to throw off investigators searching for him. 876 00:57:29,821 --> 00:57:34,200 They woke up to find Gary's backpack 877 00:57:37,495 --> 00:57:40,165 draped on a shovel that they had there. 878 00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:44,335 And when they opened it, 879 00:57:46,838 --> 00:57:49,174 Gary's belongings were in there, 880 00:57:56,848 --> 00:57:58,850 as well as a severed hand, 881 00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:02,269 Gary's hand. 882 00:58:22,874 --> 00:58:25,250 The way that his hand was severed 883 00:58:25,251 --> 00:58:28,170 was incredibly violent. 884 00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:32,382 The way that it was chopped off, was just gruesome. 885 00:58:32,383 --> 00:58:34,176 It was deliberately placed there, 886 00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:38,555 because someone wanted it to be found. 887 00:58:38,556 --> 00:58:40,058 The forensic showed, 888 00:58:41,351 --> 00:58:44,979 that his hand had been severed, 889 00:58:46,814 --> 00:58:49,650 for more than five weeks. 890 00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:52,904 And it was still clutching a video camera. 891 00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,574 And what's even more crazy was, 892 00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:01,537 the hand wasn't like torn off from a body, 893 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:03,956 it was a clean cut. 894 00:59:03,957 --> 00:59:05,250 I was gutted, 895 00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:10,713 by the fact that he had suffered. 896 00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:13,715 Once the camera was discovered, 897 00:59:13,716 --> 00:59:17,303 everybody wanted to know, is there a tape? 898 00:59:18,513 --> 00:59:20,264 And does the tape work? 899 00:59:20,265 --> 00:59:22,850 And what's on the tape? 900 00:59:24,936 --> 00:59:27,646 We were very anxious for the crime lab 901 00:59:27,647 --> 00:59:29,148 to process the evidence. 902 00:59:30,108 --> 00:59:33,777 And sure enough, when they did, 903 00:59:33,778 --> 00:59:36,072 the memory chip was still in the camera. 904 00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:56,049 It was truly terrifying to watch 905 00:59:56,050 --> 01:00:01,055 and I can't even imagine the true horror 906 01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:03,141 that he faced out there. 907 01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:08,729 Bill calls me and the forensic investigators 908 01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:13,693 have video of Gary's final moments 909 01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:17,780 and so they take us into a room. 910 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,699 The team thought it would be best 911 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,078 if I sat down with Beverly and watched the videos with her, 912 01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,832 because I had a relationship with her 913 01:00:28,833 --> 01:00:31,585 and I had a kind of a special rapport. 914 01:00:31,586 --> 01:00:33,170 So they thought it would probably be best 915 01:00:33,171 --> 01:00:34,922 if maybe I sat down with her first. 916 01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,842 Bill started the first video 917 01:00:38,843 --> 01:00:45,475 and there was Gary shining his light around, saying hello. 918 01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:51,981 And the innocence in his voice, 919 01:00:54,734 --> 01:00:56,527 I just, 920 01:00:58,613 --> 01:00:59,781 I couldn't do it. 921 01:01:00,907 --> 01:01:01,991 I 922 01:01:03,534 --> 01:01:04,744 I had to stop. 923 01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:11,459 And then Bill finished watching. 924 01:01:27,308 --> 01:01:29,894 The clips begin like all the other clips, 925 01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,730 Gary's even smiling, 926 01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:36,859 but he has no idea what's about to happen. 927 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,738 Hey guys, a little video update. 928 01:01:41,739 --> 01:01:43,116 I am. 929 01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:44,951 Oh, there's thunder. 930 01:01:45,785 --> 01:01:48,578 Storm's coming in, I gotta make this quick. 931 01:01:48,579 --> 01:01:50,247 Got a whole nother ridge line to climb 932 01:01:50,248 --> 01:01:53,625 before I get to the spot where I saw that shelter 933 01:01:53,626 --> 01:01:57,088 but I'm about halfway there, a day and a half in. 934 01:01:59,507 --> 01:02:00,842 We'll see what we find. 935 01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:05,555 Climbed over one mountain range already, got one more to go. 936 01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:08,098 And, better make it quick, 937 01:02:08,099 --> 01:02:11,351 because that storm's coming in fast. 938 01:02:11,352 --> 01:02:13,104 We'll see what's on the other side. 939 01:02:14,021 --> 01:02:14,939 I got ways to go, 940 01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:16,106 but, weird thing is, 941 01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:19,526 I'm already distinctly smelling the smoke, 942 01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:21,361 like I smelled last time. 943 01:02:21,362 --> 01:02:24,365 There's no fires around, there shouldn't be anyone out here, 944 01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:28,244 but it's very faint but very distinct smell of smoke. 945 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:30,662 Kind of getting creeped out 946 01:02:30,663 --> 01:02:33,623 but not as much as I was last time yet. 947 01:02:33,624 --> 01:02:35,375 We'll see what happens. 948 01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:37,378 Look for another video update soon. 949 01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:32,178 All right, here's the final marker. 950 01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:27,522 From what you do see from the person in the video, 951 01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:31,150 you can tell that they have a lot of physical deformities. 952 01:15:31,151 --> 01:15:34,028 And it's probably one of the main reasons 953 01:15:34,029 --> 01:15:38,908 why they chose to live where they lived, 954 01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:42,204 they felt shunned by society. 955 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,543 When we found out what actually happened, 956 01:15:51,046 --> 01:15:53,339 it was like this weight 957 01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:57,760 had been taken off of Beverly and I's relationship. 958 01:15:57,761 --> 01:16:02,056 And now we're actually really close. 959 01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,977 And I actually consider her kind of a big sister. 960 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,411 I'm just hiking along, almost to the top. 961 01:16:24,371 --> 01:16:25,789 Over that mountain side. 962 01:16:29,334 --> 01:16:31,837 Still some thunder in the distance. 963 01:16:34,298 --> 01:16:36,173 Amazing how far you can hike 964 01:16:36,174 --> 01:16:39,510 and only seeing a couple of deer, 965 01:16:39,511 --> 01:16:42,596 how much wildlife that I've seen, 966 01:16:42,597 --> 01:16:45,142 I'm sure they see me, stay hidden. 967 01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:52,691 But just a lot of sagebrush and trees and peaceful desert, 968 01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:58,195 to walk. 969 01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:01,908 The great thing about Nevada, wide open spaces. 970 01:17:05,329 --> 01:17:08,539 Everybody immediately wants to go and search 971 01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:09,374 for the one thing 972 01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:12,501 that they've been told not to go search for. 973 01:17:12,502 --> 01:17:15,921 And so now there's this whole band of influencers 974 01:17:15,922 --> 01:17:20,927 who are out there wanting to find this person 975 01:17:22,971 --> 01:17:25,473 and post about it and blog about it 976 01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:27,850 and make a video about it. 977 01:17:27,851 --> 01:17:28,851 And, 978 01:17:30,979 --> 01:17:32,105 to me that's, 979 01:17:34,066 --> 01:17:35,567 I mean, that's terrifying. 76182

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