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Never in my wildest dreams
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did I think when I told Gary
something bad is gonna happen,
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did I think it was gonna be this.
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I can't imagine
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what Gary must have been going through
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and how he must have felt
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being so alone and so far out there.
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He said
that the longer he stood
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and looked at it,
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the more spooked that he
got the feeling of dread,
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the sixth sense that he
needed to get out of there.
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I first knew something was wrong
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when I was on the phone with my publisher,
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and Simon kept trying to call in.
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And so once I was off the
phone with my publisher,
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I called Simon who's Gary's roommate.
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And he told me that
Gary was two days late.
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That's not Gary,
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you know, Gary,
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would never leave Tuca that long,
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especially knowing that
Simon had to go out of town.
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That's when I knew that
there was something wrong,
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and I needed to get there.
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So I packed up and left Panaca
and headed straight to Ruth.
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I needed to see what was going on
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and make sure that my brother was okay.
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And to take care of Tuca
until he could get back.
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I really thought he would be back.
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I first met Gary when
they were having an event
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at the Nevada Northern Railway.
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And we both just kind of,
wandered in each other's paths,
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and started talking about trains,
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and, we were both looking
for a place to stay.
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I was trying to find a place for work,
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he was in between places,
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and we kind of just
happened upon this place.
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The first time I heard
the name, Gary Hinge,
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I believe was when I was working
for the radio station NNN,
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It was um..
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I was an investigative reporter,
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it was my first job right out of the gate,
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and my producer came
to me and he was like,
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we have to cover this,
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I think it's a good
idea for us to do this,
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because the TV stations, the news,
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had stopped recording on it.
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And so this was a way
for us to get exclusives
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and to keep the story going.
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Because according to everyone
else that was hearing about it
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and reporting about it,
it had just gone cold.
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If you want me to
describe my brother Gary,
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the best way to describe him is,
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if there was a little lady that said,
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can you please watch my purse,
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no matter where they were at,
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Gary would sit there and
he would watch her purse
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and make sure that it was
safe until she came back.
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That was just the type
of person that he was,
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he was trustworthy and amazing.
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Amazing.
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So Gary loved the outdoors,
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I mean, he was the king of outdoors.
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Let's just say that.
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And I think a lot of people
were really envious of him.
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Like he lived this
beautiful adventurous life,
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that I think, those who
have the nine to five job,
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stuck behind a desk,
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I think, really admired that about him.
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Super smart, but definitely private,
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he kind of just kept to himself.
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If he wasn't in his room on his computer,
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then he was working on his model railroad.
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But other than that,
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yeah, just really kept
to himself in his room
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making his videos.
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Super funny, though
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definitely could make you laugh
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with a couple of his one liners.
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I started to learn
more about who Gary was.
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And I found out
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that he was an extremely
highly intelligent man.
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He's one of those people that was so smart
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that kind of had a hard time
connecting with other people.
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So he mostly just kind
of was more, solitude,
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and yeah, fascinating.
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The more I found out about him,
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the more I wanted to keep
finding out about, who is Gary?
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Gary had found his dream job,
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being such an avid outdoors man,
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he started to work for a startup
company called Map Nevada.
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Now what they do is,
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they map out really remote
locations for hunters.
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So they track wildlife, weather, terrain,
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and I mean, Gary was in heaven doing this.
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He loved to be by himself
out in the wilderness,
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he loved hiking,
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and being adventurous,
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any train, he was drawn
to, he loved trains.
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Hey guys filming
another little YouTube video,
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at one of my favorite places.
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If I had more time I would
become one of the volunteers,
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but this is the Nevada Northern
Railway Museum, here in Ely.
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And it's kind of an old little copper mine
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just preserved and left.
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They do some cool stuff, though,
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like you can sleep in this
old caboose from Kennecott,
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the big copper mine in the area,
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right outside my home in Ruth.
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It's kind of a neat
little railroad museum,
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they just kind of let you walk around.
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And you know how much I love
trains on top of hiking,
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gotta do something in the winter time
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and you can't be outside as much.
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So I was really excited
to take on this story,
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seeing that it was my first story.
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And it also took place
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in this tiny little town called Ruth.
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And so I grabbed the phone book,
and I just started calling.
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And I wanted to talk to
anybody and everybody
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that would talk to me.
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I first knew something was off
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when he asked me to watch his dog Tuca
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before he went out on one of his trips.
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And he never leaves Tuca.
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He always takes the dog with him,
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so I thought that was kind of weird.
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And he was acting super stressed out
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even keeping to himself even more.
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When he didn't come back after two days,
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I thought that was really strange.
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I had a flight to catch,
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so I just called Beverly to get the dog.
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After I got off the phone with Simon,
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I tried Gary, and there was no answer,
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so I hurried and left and
I went to Ruth from Panaca.
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And it's only a couple hours away,
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so when I got there,
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Simon and Tuca were
waiting on the front steps.
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Simon really needed to get
to the airport in Las Vegas,
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so I asked him where Gary had gone to,
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and Simon didn't know, his
roommate didn't even know,
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he just knew that he was on an expedition.
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To me that wasn't right,
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so I tried Gary a couple of more times,
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and all it did was go to voicemail
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and something was definitely wrong.
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And so I called the police and waited.
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So I got Beverley's phone number,
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and this is the only time
that I ever talked to her.
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And she was pretty angry with me,
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once I told her that I was a reporter.
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And she did not want to
have anything to do with me
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or our show, which I thought
was really unfortunate,
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because, the news stations,
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they had stopped recording on this,
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and we were the only ones doing anything,
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and I thought this is a way
to help find your brother,
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I don't understand why
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you don't want to give me the time or day,
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but she didn't, and she quickly hung up.
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And that was the only time
that I spoke to Beverly.
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Gary became so obsessed
with survivalism,
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he would watch the Discovery Channel,
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he would watch YouTube,
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he would study it and find
the most remote places,
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no cell service, no provisions of any kind
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other than what he took.
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And it used to scare
the heavens out of me.
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I mean, I was petrified for him,
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and I would worry so much.
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But after a while,
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it was Gary.
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So guys, I'm here hiking around,
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and this is one of the cool secrets
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I have in the wilds in Nevada
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is this cemetery from the
late 1800s old mining camp,
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but I won't disclose the
name for safety reasons.
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Don't want anyone getting lost out here,
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but you can see all these
old graves, wood stones,
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unmarked graves with no names now.
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Give you an idea of
where I had to hike from
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is that mountain way over there
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is my truck's on the other side of it.
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So hiked over that mountain
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and I'm way out this
way now, hiking around.
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I wouldn't say what
Gary was doing was hiking.
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These were multiple day,
like survival excursions.
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In the beginning, what gave me hope
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was the fact that when
Gary was much younger,
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much, much younger, like second grade,
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we all went camping, and Gary
disappeared from the campsite.
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And we searched for him
and searched for him,
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and we were all so worried, mom
and dad were just terrified,
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I was terrified.
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We didn't wanna leave the mountain
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to go and get cell service or anything,
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we just went looking for him.
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And we looked for him all night.
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And the next morning we came
up to a sheep herders camp,
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thinking, we're gonna tell them look,
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keep an eye out for this second grader,
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this second grader that was missing
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and we walk up and there
is my little brother Gary,
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playing with the animals.
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He'd known that if he got
to the sheep herders camp,
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he would be okay,
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that mom and dad would
come and look for him.
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And he was so resilient, it
was in him, second nature.
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So after speaking to a
bunch of people in Ruth,
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I started to learn a little
bit more about Beverly
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and Beverly's relationship
with Gary in the past.
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So she had a lot of anger towards Gary.
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She really blamed him
for their parents' death.
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And then when their parents did pass away,
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she was stuck, still raising Gary
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and so she held quite a lot
of resentment against him.
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Well, I was mad at
Gary when mom dad died,
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they were out on a fishing trip
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and mom and dad liked to
do some night fishing.
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And so they went out
and did hang the lantern
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where they could see it,
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so they could get back to shore safely,
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back to camp without hitting any rocks.
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Old Gary decided
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that he was gonna go
hunting frogs and everything
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and so, and he went exploring.
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And while he's out there
he hung the lantern up,
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so that he could see what he was doing.
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Meanwhile, mom and dad
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decided that they were gonna come back in
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and call it a night.
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So they headed for the lantern.
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Not knowing that Gary had
moved it while he was exploring
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and so they followed the light.
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And, it was the wrong spot.
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They didn't make it back
because they hit the rocks,
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and had Gary not hang the
lantern up where he was at
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and left it where it needed to be,
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there wouldn't have been any problems.
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I just felt super bad for Beverly.
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You know, I could just hear her
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inside Gary's room, sobbing.
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You know, you're really
making me miss my brother, Gary.
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Kept hearing people
refer to Gary as a hiker.
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And in my opinion, I don't
really think that's correct.
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Because, to me, Gary's
more of a survivalist,
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he would go out into the
wilderness for a week or two on end
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with just a backpack.
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He's kind of like the
MacGyver of the wilderness,
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just to survive and live off of the land,
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and filter his on water.
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So, to hear them just be like,
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oh, he's just a hiker gone missing.
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He's not.
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When Gary and I first
started living together,
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I actually went out with
him on one of these things.
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And I just kept telling myself
the entire time, never again.
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Gary wouldn't let us bring
enough food or water,
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and it was the most miserable experience.
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The one thing I did like about it
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was we kept on finding these 1800's
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abandoned mining kind of structures,
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which was super cool.
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This wasn't a normal search and rescue.
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Because, Gary didn't tell
anybody where he was going
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on his excursion.
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And he would go really
deep into the wilderness,
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and he'd be gone for a week or so,
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so no one had any idea
where to even start looking.
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And so police decided the best way,
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or the only thing they could think of
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was to maybe check his cell phone,
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and his cell phone pings in which tower.
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And it looked to be as he
had turned his cell phone off
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shortly after leaving his home.
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When Beverly showed up to get the dog.
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Yeah, I regret that now, I
kind of lashed out at her.
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I was so put off when I got to town,
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and he was so antsy to get out of there.
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And, being my brother's roommate,
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not even asking where he was gonna be,
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or, if there was gonna,
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you know any issue that
might set up a red flag
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if he didn't come home.
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He had his dog and everything,
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and he knew he needed to be out of town.
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I just didn't,
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I didn't feel right about it,
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it just didn't feel right.
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And, a week or so before
that, Gary had confided in me
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that him and Simon weren't
getting along very well,
291
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and so he wanted to move out.
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And so I just,
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it just didn't feel right,
so I let the cops know.
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You know, I just don't trust him,
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there's just something to
not be concerned at all,
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where your roommate's gonna be.
297
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And more worried about getting on a plane,
298
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than somebody missing that's
supposed to be your friend,
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close to you?
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No.
301
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We never talked about that,
302
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he never told me where
he went hiking, ever,
303
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he never mentioned it.
304
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And even if we did talk about it,
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I'm pretty sure he probably
wouldn't have told me, so.
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But at the beginning, I understood
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she needed someone to point the finger at
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and she was super upset, understandably.
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But after some time, it
just kind of got old,
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so I called her and I now told her that,
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there's no way I would have
known and just by the way,
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you're his sister, so why didn't you know?
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When I first reported Gary missing,
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the police were wonderful,
315
00:19:55,485 --> 00:20:00,114
they were really on top
of it, they did an APB,
316
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be on the lookout for his truck, himself,
317
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Park Rangers, Fish and Game, everything.
318
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You know, we live in a small town,
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people don't go missing all the time.
320
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And so this was a big deal,
321
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and they really took it seriously,
322
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they had it everywhere.
323
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I was embarrassed that I didn't know
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exactly where he was at,
you know, I'm his sister,
325
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I should have known.
326
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I should have known.
327
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My first thought when
I heard he was missing was,
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oh, it'd be near impossible to find him.
329
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Either, he finally just injured himself,
330
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or maybe he had eaten something
331
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that he didn't know was
gonna make him so sick.
332
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It'd been two days since
I'd reported the missing
333
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and I hadn't slept more than
10 to 15 minutes at a time.
334
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I had people calling and were so concerned
335
00:21:38,588 --> 00:21:41,091
and wanted to know where
to start looking for him.
336
00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,218
But not knowing where he was at,
337
00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:46,221
where would I have them look?
338
00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:52,352
And then the phone call came,
they'd found Gary's truck.
339
00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,926
And I got such a sinking feeling,
340
00:22:25,927 --> 00:22:28,262
such a sick to my stomach feeling
341
00:22:28,263 --> 00:22:32,642
that this was now very real.
342
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:41,943
After the cops called in,
343
00:22:42,819 --> 00:22:44,153
and let me know that
they'd found this truck,
344
00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:47,114
they came and picked me
up and took me to it.
345
00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:50,534
It was about 55 miles out of town,
346
00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:53,914
and we got there and seeing his truck,
347
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,293
I was so hopeful, you know, thinking,
348
00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:01,962
he probably fell,
349
00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:04,465
maybe broke an ankle, stuck in a ravine,
350
00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:05,716
can't get himself out.
351
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,719
But I had hope.
352
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,224
I really had hope that we
were gonna find him okay.
353
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:16,561
It just wasn't in a place
where Gary would have left it.
354
00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:19,563
Like it wasn't in a spot where he wanted,
355
00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,733
which he would wanna go to explore.
356
00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:25,736
While I was sitting there,
357
00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:28,949
watching them process Gary's
truck, I was looking around,
358
00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,788
this wasn't Gary,
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00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:40,710
he loved to explore vast
forests, rocky hills,
360
00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:48,093
beauty, not just a rolling hill of dirt.
361
00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:53,682
It just, something wasn't right.
362
00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:11,824
I'm a private investigator.
363
00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:15,579
I was hired by Beverly shortly
after Gary's truck was found.
364
00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:20,417
The High Desert as you can see,
365
00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:26,547
it's very beautiful,
366
00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:31,553
it's very majestic, has mountains,
valleys, plains, forests,
367
00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:34,054
it has it all.
368
00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:37,558
But it's also quite dangerous
and very unforgiving.
369
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,145
So after Gary's truck was found,
370
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,317
a search began and people really rallied.
371
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:49,738
Gary went missing
372
00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:52,239
in the hottest part of the summer.
373
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And what we see most of the
time in disappearance like his
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is people suffering from heatstroke,
375
00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:04,336
dehydration, sometimes even injury.
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00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:08,297
People started showing up
377
00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,175
and then more people started showing up,
378
00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,261
and next thing I know,
it's a whole whirlwind,
379
00:25:14,262 --> 00:25:18,892
there were people there
that I didn't know,
380
00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:22,019
that Gary didn't know,
381
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,939
there were people bringing drones,
382
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:26,690
all kinds of search and rescue.
383
00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:30,027
It was the most humbling experience
384
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:35,033
to know that these strangers
were out there helping
385
00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:39,204
to try to find my brother
and bring him home.
386
00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:55,845
So once Gary's truck
was found, Beverly was,
387
00:25:57,264 --> 00:25:59,056
let's just say she was very vocal
388
00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:02,559
about how the truck seemed to be parked
389
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,270
in a suspicious location,
390
00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:05,604
like she was just convinced
391
00:26:05,605 --> 00:26:08,190
that her brother had not parked it there,
392
00:26:08,191 --> 00:26:09,984
her brother wouldn't park it there,
393
00:26:09,985 --> 00:26:12,779
and she would not stop talking about it.
394
00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:17,950
So the cops eventually looked into this.
395
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,660
The clock was ticking.
396
00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:22,956
They very much needed to find
Gary as soon as possible.
397
00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:27,876
Beverly, on the other hand,
was very much in their way.
398
00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:32,882
She was in the way, and she
was really messing things up.
399
00:26:33,508 --> 00:26:36,093
Searching the high desert isn't easy,
400
00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:37,428
I mean, it's not an easy task.
401
00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:38,346
People think it is,
402
00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:40,931
people think you can just get
up in the air in a helicopter
403
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:45,937
and fly around and look at
the ground and see someone,
404
00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:51,150
but once you're on the ground,
there's abandoned mines,
405
00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,652
there's bushes and tree cover.
406
00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:56,238
And it's super difficult.
407
00:26:56,239 --> 00:27:00,118
So finding someone, it's not
easy as people think it is.
408
00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:03,246
Oh my god, sheep.
409
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,623
Hi sheep.
410
00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:06,708
Look at all the sheep.
411
00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:09,377
Sheep are a lot nicer than people.
412
00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:14,131
Hey little sheep,
413
00:27:15,675 --> 00:27:16,718
look at all you guys.
414
00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:23,933
Roaming the land, doing
what you need to do.
415
00:27:28,605 --> 00:27:30,689
Jeez, they all ran away from me.
416
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:32,484
Can't even make friends with sheep.
417
00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:40,200
The officers didn't want me
to participate in the search.
418
00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:46,914
They thought it was best that
I stay home at Gary's place
419
00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:51,920
in case he tried to contact
me, call or show up.
420
00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:56,173
I was very much familiar
with the lead investigator.
421
00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:57,966
We had worked together before,
422
00:27:57,967 --> 00:28:00,387
and we were definitely
familiar with each other.
423
00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:04,139
I called him to kind of check up on things
424
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:08,018
and see where the
investigation was headed,
425
00:28:08,019 --> 00:28:10,771
and if they had any new information.
426
00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:13,733
He told me that they had made
a discovery in the truck.
427
00:28:23,827 --> 00:28:27,329
But since I was not
formally hired by Beverley,
428
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,040
I had to contact her first
429
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,544
before they would discuss
the matter with me.
430
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:38,383
I was hopeful that they had good news,
431
00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:45,348
that the officer asked me
if Gary had any enemies,
432
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:50,019
or if I knew anybody
that may wanna hurt him.
433
00:28:52,605 --> 00:28:54,649
I asked the officer why,
434
00:28:56,192 --> 00:28:57,192
why would he,
435
00:28:58,027 --> 00:28:59,236
why would he ask that.
436
00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:04,242
And in confidence, they told
me that they had evidence
437
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,709
that Gary did not drive
his truck out there.
438
00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:28,682
So I waited a couple of hours
439
00:29:28,683 --> 00:29:31,727
and went over to Gary's house
where Beverly was staying,
440
00:29:31,728 --> 00:29:34,605
and she was absolutely hysterical.
441
00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:37,399
She told me that the
police had informed her
442
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,988
that in Gary's truck they
had discovered prints
443
00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:47,869
on top of Gary's all over,
on top of the steering wheel,
444
00:29:47,994 --> 00:29:50,704
the dashboard, the gear
445
00:29:50,705 --> 00:29:55,710
and what was most surprising or alarming
446
00:29:56,002 --> 00:30:01,007
was that they discovered
footprints, bare footprints,
447
00:30:01,674 --> 00:30:06,679
and they were scarred and unidentifiable,
448
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,517
which even added more to the mystery.
449
00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:19,776
The footprint was,
450
00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:26,491
he said that it was barefoot.
451
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:40,088
So someone drove Gary's truck barefoot.
452
00:30:41,631 --> 00:30:44,132
And it just doesn't sit well with me,
453
00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:46,552
because it's like, what happened?
454
00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:49,138
Why was this person not wearing shoes?
455
00:30:50,723 --> 00:30:51,932
What was going on?
456
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:54,059
Like, it's just odd,
457
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,395
and it's very,
458
00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:59,190
I don't know, it's just,
459
00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,943
it made my skin crawl.
460
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:06,280
Oh, look at the little baby deer.
461
00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:09,158
That's kind of cool to see,
you don't see that too often.
462
00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:46,361
You know, I hadn't been
sleeping and everything,
463
00:31:46,362 --> 00:31:49,157
and my mind was just reeling,
464
00:31:50,658 --> 00:31:52,326
I had a lot of things
going through my head,
465
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:53,745
different scenarios.
466
00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:57,123
Maybe he picked up a friend?
467
00:31:58,916 --> 00:32:02,170
Maybe somebody stole his
truck while he was out hiking?
468
00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:06,632
Or maybe he picked up a hitchhiker,
469
00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:11,638
and the hitchhiker had
done something to him.
470
00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:17,476
I don't know, at this point,
471
00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,062
so many things were just
going through my head,
472
00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:24,191
just over and over again,
473
00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:28,780
which didn't help me try to get any sleep.
474
00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:43,418
So Beverly, still
wanted me to vet out Simon
475
00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:47,297
because she still thought
he was very suspicious.
476
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,507
And I did too.
477
00:32:48,508 --> 00:32:49,549
I looked into him again,
478
00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:54,138
and lo and behold, he was
ruled out as a suspect.
479
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:57,224
But through that process,
480
00:32:57,225 --> 00:33:01,061
I actually learned that
Gary had been talking
481
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,898
to someone that he met on
a Facebook Messenger group.
482
00:33:05,191 --> 00:33:07,401
They had been corresponding
with each other
483
00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:09,945
through a local sellers group,
484
00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,323
and I guess they had been
commenting on each other's posts
485
00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:14,491
and one thing led to another
486
00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:18,204
and they became more than friends.
487
00:33:19,288 --> 00:33:24,252
When I confronted this person,
he was very much terrified,
488
00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:25,711
didn't wanna talk to me,
489
00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,087
didn't wanna have anything to do with me
490
00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:28,088
or the investigation.
491
00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:29,840
And I told him, if you don't talk to me,
492
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,466
you're gonna have to talk to the cops,
493
00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,468
and they're gonna really bust your ass.
494
00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:35,303
And I think he was terrified
495
00:33:35,304 --> 00:33:37,015
of being outed in this community,
496
00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:42,937
because it's such a small
town, not a lot of gay people.
497
00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:46,857
And so he did talk to me, he told me that,
498
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,985
he didn't have anything to
do with Gary's disappearance.
499
00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:54,531
He was sad and upset that
Gary had disappeared,
500
00:33:54,532 --> 00:33:57,075
he didn't know what happened to him.
501
00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,536
I guess I did believe him.
502
00:33:59,746 --> 00:34:01,580
He really didn't wanna discuss it,
503
00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:04,374
but ultimately, when I
did check out his alibi,
504
00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:07,211
he was cleared as a suspect.
505
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:15,635
Hey guys, now that I'm
done chasing sheep around
506
00:34:15,636 --> 00:34:17,722
like a crazy person in the mountains.
507
00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,224
I've seen a lot out here, mining camps,
508
00:34:21,225 --> 00:34:26,230
mines, abandoned towns,
buildings, remnants of the past,
509
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,232
but the coolest and my
favorite personally,
510
00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,735
is all the Native American remnants,
511
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,403
I love finding arrowheads
512
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:36,740
and seeing petroglyphs on mountain sides.
513
00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:39,534
Just old writing from the native people
514
00:34:39,535 --> 00:34:43,121
who lived here long before
any settlers moved in.
515
00:34:43,122 --> 00:34:45,248
To me, that's the coolest stuff to see.
516
00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:47,501
But it's getting dark
now, the sun's setting
517
00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:50,420
I think I'm gonna call it
a night and get settled in,
518
00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:51,421
in my camp.
519
00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:56,635
They were still processing
the crime scene and everything
520
00:34:56,636 --> 00:35:01,641
and they came across an
envelope in his center console,
521
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,769
it had a money in it.
522
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:10,942
To me that said that whoever he was with,
523
00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:15,153
wasn't there to take his money
524
00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,782
or anything that he might have had.
525
00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:39,846
I woke to the police
officers knocking on my door.
526
00:35:43,891 --> 00:35:46,978
And they were informing me that
they called off the search.
527
00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,690
And while they're explaining things to me,
528
00:35:52,024 --> 00:35:53,401
I'm seeing them talking,
529
00:35:56,362 --> 00:35:58,155
I'm not comprehending any of the it,
530
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,285
everything was just kind of flashing.
531
00:36:03,286 --> 00:36:07,873
And, I'm seeing their faces,
and I'm seeing their lips move,
532
00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,751
and then they're looking
at me like I'm crazy.
533
00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:15,631
And next thing I know, I'm on a stretcher.
534
00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:27,977
And taken to the ER where
they had to give me hydration
535
00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:34,233
and IV with fluids and
medicine that helped me sleep,
536
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,781
and for the first time
since all of this started,
537
00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:43,784
I got 10 hours of sleep.
538
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:47,454
This was the largest search and rescue
539
00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:49,581
that Nevada had ever seen.
540
00:36:49,582 --> 00:36:53,585
And when they finally called it off,
541
00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:55,962
everyone was just so shocked.
542
00:36:55,963 --> 00:36:59,841
But, you mean, you can't search
the entire state of Nevada,
543
00:36:59,842 --> 00:37:02,177
it's just too vast, it's too broad,
544
00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:07,140
and it had been so long that
the chances of finding him
545
00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:11,269
and finding him alive were slim to none.
546
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:13,563
The investigation was dead in the water,
547
00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:15,565
we didn't have any leads,
548
00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:18,568
the fingerprints in the truck
didn't match any database,
549
00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,820
so we didn't know what to do.
550
00:37:20,821 --> 00:37:21,821
But then.
551
00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:30,665
Gary's followers started calling.
552
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,297
And this whole thing
was turned on its head.
553
00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:42,050
So I'm at my desk,
554
00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:44,135
and I'm going through the show notes,
555
00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:45,470
I'm getting ready to go on air
556
00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:47,597
and my producer comes through
my door, and he's like,
557
00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:50,934
you have a phone call, you
have to take this phone call.
558
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:54,771
And I get on the phone, and
it's one of our listeners.
559
00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:59,317
And he's telling me that I
have to look into Gary's blog.
560
00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:03,780
He's going on and on about
this crazy story about Gary,
561
00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:08,034
and he's telling me that he
thinks he knows where he is,
562
00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:11,246
he thinks he knows what happened to him.
563
00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:15,710
And that I have to go and
look at this blog right now.
564
00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,336
My friend Monica calls me
565
00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:21,506
and tells me that it's all over the news
566
00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:26,512
that all these people are
calling into the radio station.
567
00:38:26,887 --> 00:38:31,099
And she tells me that they're
talking about Gary's blog
568
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,977
and the fact that it needs to be read
569
00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:35,937
and that there's comments and everything.
570
00:38:35,938 --> 00:38:40,150
And so once I got discharged,
571
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,651
I went straight to Gary's house,
572
00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:45,155
so I could read the blog
and see what all this was
573
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,157
that they were talking about.
574
00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,701
Unfortunately, Beverly
found out about Gary's blog
575
00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:53,246
hours before we did, and
she went right over there,
576
00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:55,415
and really messed things up.
577
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,959
Hey guys, it's me again.
578
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,794
A lot of people have
been following the blog
579
00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:01,671
and new to the blog and been saying,
580
00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:04,758
I'm just trying to copy
"Naked and Afraid".
581
00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:08,345
And as you can tell, I'm not
naked or afraid out here,
582
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,514
so I'm not trying to copy the show and,
583
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,851
also my ex loved that
show, so I'm sick of it,
584
00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:17,645
there's a reason why
people are called exes.
585
00:39:17,646 --> 00:39:20,357
So while I'm trying to
navigate through everything
586
00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:22,400
on his blog,
587
00:39:22,401 --> 00:39:24,778
going through the operator
stuff and everything
588
00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:31,160
and I finally get in there
and I realize he has 50,000,
589
00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:34,371
50,000 viewers.
590
00:39:37,124 --> 00:39:39,042
I was shocked.
591
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,629
Not a single person in Gary's
life knew about his blog,
592
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,047
which was really shocking
593
00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:47,009
considering the fact that
he had 50,000 followers.
594
00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,430
That really says something,
if you think about it.
595
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,312
Of course, I immediately
jump on my computer
596
00:39:59,313 --> 00:40:03,817
and I go to his blog, and
I'll never forget the title,
597
00:40:03,818 --> 00:40:05,652
because I actually thought
it was really clever.
598
00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:09,280
It was called "Don't
Hike With Headphones".
599
00:40:09,281 --> 00:40:11,324
Hey guys up here at
the top of the mountain,
600
00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:15,371
as you can see, there's
the great view behind me.
601
00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:19,958
One of the questions I've got
asked on the blog a lot was,
602
00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:21,918
what dangers,
603
00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:24,003
are there any threatening animals
604
00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:25,839
like rattlesnakes and mountain lions?
605
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,634
And, yeah, there're rattlesnakes
at the lower elevations,
606
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,886
you might have noticed I
don't hike with headphones
607
00:40:31,887 --> 00:40:34,430
or anything on so I can listen for them.
608
00:40:34,431 --> 00:40:37,851
And it's your basic,
survivalist type blog,
609
00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:41,229
you know, how to build a
fire, how to filter water,
610
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,106
and I just start scrolling through
611
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,066
and I scroll and scroll
all the way to the,
612
00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:47,861
like the latest videos that he had posted.
613
00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,404
I'm trying to navigate
614
00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:52,615
to find out where these
notifications are coming from
615
00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:56,077
because he is getting
notification after notification,
616
00:40:56,078 --> 00:40:59,539
I mean, it's ding, ding, ding, ding.
617
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:02,834
So I was driving when I
found out Gary had a blog,
618
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:06,796
I pulled over and looked
for it on my phone.
619
00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:09,007
And the first thing that I noticed
620
00:41:09,008 --> 00:41:10,800
was that he didn't go by his real name,
621
00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:13,261
he went by Scorpion Sam.
622
00:41:13,262 --> 00:41:15,513
My biggest thing I've ever ran into
623
00:41:15,514 --> 00:41:18,099
was I got stung by a scorpion,
624
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,602
kicking over a rock once,
625
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:25,190
had to go to the hospital
once I got back to my truck,
626
00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:27,776
that was the day I hiked
with a swelling up hand.
627
00:41:29,403 --> 00:41:32,155
I'm finally able to
get to the notifications
628
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:34,407
and this notification pops up
629
00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:37,870
and they're saying, I bet he found it,
630
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,624
and that something bad happened,
631
00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:47,630
and I'm thinking, they're
saying he found it?
632
00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:50,006
And something bad happened?
633
00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:51,383
Found what?
634
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,846
And then came Gary's
now infamous video post.
635
00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,308
I have worked a lot of
strange cases in my career,
636
00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:05,022
and Gary's by far was the most unusual,
637
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,858
just the way that he described
what he was looking at,
638
00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:12,987
what he saw, how terrified he was,
639
00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:17,993
it just really scares me.
640
00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:24,666
So I started watching
the second to last video
641
00:42:24,667 --> 00:42:25,917
on Gary's blog.
642
00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:28,670
And he's at his home
and he's sitting there
643
00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:31,090
and he's telling his viewers
644
00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:37,303
basically what he came across
on his last expedition.
645
00:42:37,304 --> 00:42:39,973
I saw his last three videos
646
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:40,974
and,
647
00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:44,812
what I saw,
648
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,568
changed everything.
649
00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:03,371
He's pretty worked up in this video,
650
00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:06,541
you can tell he's nervous, he's scared.
651
00:43:06,542 --> 00:43:08,711
As soon as his video started,
652
00:43:11,171 --> 00:43:15,883
I could tell he was troubled by something,
653
00:43:15,884 --> 00:43:18,470
something had him so unnerved.
654
00:43:19,847 --> 00:43:22,849
He was three days into his expedition,
655
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:27,270
and he started to smell smoke and that,
656
00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:29,355
and he was out in the middle of nowhere.
657
00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:34,278
So he got curious and
started to look around.
658
00:43:35,154 --> 00:43:36,988
He comes across this cabin,
659
00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,950
and it's not like a nice cabin,
it's like a makeshift cabin,
660
00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:45,956
almost kind of like a
homeless type of structure,
661
00:43:46,165 --> 00:43:47,498
sticks and twigs,
662
00:43:47,499 --> 00:43:50,878
and there's smoke coming
out of the chimney.
663
00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:56,758
And Gary's not someone to
be scared of someone else,
664
00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:57,759
out in the wilderness,
665
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,765
but he said he was just
like frozen in his tracks,
666
00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:06,976
and he just felt this like sixth sense
667
00:44:06,977 --> 00:44:10,105
of basically impending doom.
668
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:15,818
It was the look on his
face, that really got to me,
669
00:44:15,819 --> 00:44:19,114
when he described this
cabin out in Nevada.
670
00:44:21,742 --> 00:44:25,329
He said that the longer
he stood and looked at it
671
00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:31,626
the more spooked that he
got the feeling of dread,
672
00:44:31,627 --> 00:44:34,962
the sixth sense that he
needed to get out of there.
673
00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:38,841
And he wanted nothing
to do with that place.
674
00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:42,345
And so, he hightails it out of there
675
00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:46,516
and he goes to sleep in his tent,
676
00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:51,104
I remember this because he talks
about how he was so scared,
677
00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:54,023
he slept with his shoes on all night.
678
00:44:54,024 --> 00:44:55,566
You know, he didn't bring his firearms,
679
00:44:55,567 --> 00:45:00,572
so he was totally just vulnerable
out there and terrified.
680
00:45:02,783 --> 00:45:07,788
And he wakes up the next
morning, and there's footprints,
681
00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:11,249
and they're barefoot footprints.
682
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,459
These two things are now connected,
683
00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:14,753
we had something to go on.
684
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,889
The hike back to his track,
685
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,766
which took three days,
686
00:45:28,767 --> 00:45:32,187
he felt like somebody was following him.
687
00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:38,985
So this was a really sad story to me,
688
00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:42,155
to see Gary's followers turn on him,
689
00:45:42,156 --> 00:45:44,907
that blog was everything to him.
690
00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:49,913
He really admired them,
and their comments,
691
00:45:52,499 --> 00:45:54,834
it was something really special to him.
692
00:45:54,835 --> 00:45:59,840
And to see them go from
loving him to bullying him,
693
00:46:00,507 --> 00:46:03,634
calling him a loser, a liar,
694
00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:07,556
and putting him down, it
was really sad to see.
695
00:46:09,892 --> 00:46:12,226
And the comments are like,
696
00:46:12,227 --> 00:46:15,898
everyone's kind of just
like, well, go back,
697
00:46:16,732 --> 00:46:18,399
take video, show us this place,
698
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,194
does this place even
exist, is this even real?
699
00:46:21,195 --> 00:46:23,821
And he's getting like
really hit by his followers,
700
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,784
basically, they're kind of bullying him,
701
00:46:27,659 --> 00:46:30,328
they don't believe that
he came across this,
702
00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:33,831
they go to his blog for a reason,
703
00:46:33,832 --> 00:46:35,666
and now they feel like he's just
704
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:38,586
getting into ghost stories or something.
705
00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:39,587
And so they,
706
00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:45,259
I really feel like he fell
into a bit of cyber bullying
707
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:50,139
and the fact that they were not gonna be
708
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:51,849
his faithful followers anymore,
709
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:56,479
unless he goes back and
proves that he saw this,
710
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,398
he experienced this.
711
00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:07,615
You know, it broke my
heart to read the comments
712
00:47:07,616 --> 00:47:12,621
that said that he was
nothing but a lonely loser,
713
00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:16,415
and that all he was doing
714
00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:20,711
was trying to get
attention by making shit up
715
00:47:20,712 --> 00:47:23,799
and that they didn't believe him.
716
00:47:25,592 --> 00:47:27,761
I actually didn't know about the blog,
717
00:47:28,595 --> 00:47:31,347
but I knew he was doing something
718
00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:36,227
because he was always in
the backyard making videos,
719
00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,438
telling the camera how to make a campfire,
720
00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:41,607
or I always heard him in his room
721
00:47:41,608 --> 00:47:43,694
like giving survival tips and things.
722
00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:47,239
Hey, guys, just
walking through the woods here.
723
00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:50,741
It's a beautiful day in
the backwoods in Nevada.
724
00:47:50,742 --> 00:47:52,660
But a lot of people asked what I would do
725
00:47:52,661 --> 00:47:54,079
if I got lost back here,
726
00:47:55,247 --> 00:47:59,500
I had to spends several
more days than I planned on,
727
00:47:59,501 --> 00:48:00,835
I guess first thing I would do
728
00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:04,673
would be find a nice nutritious cow patty,
729
00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:07,758
because there're so yummy.
730
00:48:07,759 --> 00:48:11,053
I'm just kidding, you
don't wanna eat cow shit.
731
00:48:11,054 --> 00:48:12,054
That will be bad.
732
00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:15,893
But there are ways you can
scavenger for food out here.
733
00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:26,194
I'm so upset by everything and,
734
00:48:27,112 --> 00:48:31,782
I wanted to download this
735
00:48:31,783 --> 00:48:35,494
and do what I could so that
I could take it to the cops,
736
00:48:35,495 --> 00:48:40,500
and during all the frustration
and the upset and everything,
737
00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:45,005
I accidentally deleted it.
738
00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:51,010
Beverly really beat herself
up about deleting the video,
739
00:48:51,011 --> 00:48:53,971
and I felt bad for her.
740
00:48:53,972 --> 00:48:57,683
I didn't wanna press it because
I knew she felt terrible,
741
00:48:57,684 --> 00:48:59,935
her brother was missing.
742
00:48:59,936 --> 00:49:04,148
But it was a missed
opportunity definitely,
743
00:49:04,149 --> 00:49:05,817
and a definite disappointment.
744
00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:11,782
The last video of Gary on that blog,
745
00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:16,577
is him basically telling his followers,
746
00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:19,915
okay, here I go, I'll go back.
747
00:49:20,916 --> 00:49:22,584
And he doesn't look okay about it.
748
00:49:23,543 --> 00:49:27,964
Gary's final video is truly haunting.
749
00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:32,427
And it is really the
beginning of a bigger mystery.
750
00:49:35,263 --> 00:49:39,725
Gary's last video that
he posted to his blog
751
00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:43,730
said that he was gonna go back out
752
00:49:46,316 --> 00:49:50,945
and record everything
and prove to everyone
753
00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:55,158
that this was real, that
this really existed.
754
00:50:00,914 --> 00:50:04,959
It's the last time that
he ever posted anything
755
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,586
or anybody heard from him.
756
00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:31,569
Hey guys, I'm back.
757
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:32,611
Wanted to make a video
758
00:50:32,612 --> 00:50:35,991
about the different comments
people left on my last video.
759
00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:40,953
A lot of you were coming up
with some crazy theories,
760
00:50:40,954 --> 00:50:44,291
what was out there,
what I saw in the woods.
761
00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,460
Some of you don't believe it,
762
00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,336
some of you are asking for the location
763
00:50:49,337 --> 00:50:52,047
and wanna find it yourself.
764
00:50:52,048 --> 00:50:53,758
I'm really against people going out
765
00:50:53,759 --> 00:50:57,011
in the backwoods in
Nevada without experience,
766
00:50:57,012 --> 00:50:58,721
there's a lot dangers out there,
767
00:50:58,722 --> 00:51:02,183
from old mines to just random people
768
00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:04,435
and you can get lost easily,
769
00:51:04,436 --> 00:51:06,729
the scenery looks a lot the same,
770
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:08,773
and if there's no trails,
771
00:51:08,774 --> 00:51:12,276
you can get lost and turn around
and be out there for days.
772
00:51:12,277 --> 00:51:14,445
And if you don't bring
enough food or water,
773
00:51:14,446 --> 00:51:15,530
you're in real danger.
774
00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:19,116
So I don't wanna give out the location
775
00:51:19,117 --> 00:51:23,078
and just be the one that
causes a whole bunch of people
776
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,040
to go out in the backwoods in Nevada.
777
00:51:26,124 --> 00:51:29,168
I'll go out there, find the shelter again.
778
00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:32,129
This time, I'll bring
my camera and firearm,
779
00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:33,839
I have to do some work first,
780
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,550
but I plan on leaving on the 22nd,
781
00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:39,387
and I'll need a good six
days to be out there again.
782
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:43,265
It's a good three days
in, and three days back,
783
00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:45,684
but we're gonna find out what this is,
784
00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:49,563
and look forward to another video,
785
00:51:49,564 --> 00:51:51,233
once we finally get out there,
786
00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:54,277
I'll have something for you guys posted.
787
00:52:01,326 --> 00:52:03,244
He goes and that's it.
788
00:52:03,245 --> 00:52:04,538
And that's the last,
789
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:08,040
that's the last video of Gary.
790
00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,545
And no one knows where he was going.
791
00:52:12,754 --> 00:52:17,174
So the search is so
vast and Nevada is huge,
792
00:52:17,175 --> 00:52:20,428
and he could be anywhere.
793
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:37,279
This place that he talks
about could be anywhere.
794
00:52:41,867 --> 00:52:43,284
This became a perfect storm
795
00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:46,871
because now we knew what Gary was doing,
796
00:52:46,872 --> 00:52:48,623
we just had no idea where.
797
00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:54,880
I had no idea that he
had this whole other life,
798
00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:57,965
this blog, all these
followers and everything
799
00:52:57,966 --> 00:52:59,175
had I known that,
800
00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:04,598
I would have never, ever,
let him go back out there.
801
00:53:05,891 --> 00:53:09,019
This whole case turned
from a missing persons
802
00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:12,897
to a huge mystery.
803
00:53:12,898 --> 00:53:14,398
Whose cabin was this?
804
00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:16,233
I mean, who lives out there?
805
00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:17,401
Where is this cabin?
806
00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:19,904
I mean, if it's in the middle of nowhere,
807
00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:23,324
what type of person lives
in the middle of nowhere?
808
00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:27,244
And if you're about to
go find that person,
809
00:53:27,245 --> 00:53:29,705
I don't know if they're gonna
be too happy to be found.
810
00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:32,166
I mean, if they're out there that far,
811
00:53:32,167 --> 00:53:34,169
they're out there that far for a reason.
812
00:53:40,425 --> 00:53:43,844
Once the radio station
broadcasts about it,
813
00:53:43,845 --> 00:53:45,679
his blog and everything,
814
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,932
everybody just went crazy
815
00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:50,267
before the cops could even take it down.
816
00:53:50,268 --> 00:53:55,273
The conspiracy theories
were just everywhere,
817
00:53:55,482 --> 00:54:00,487
from witches to aliens,
area 51, you name it.
818
00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:04,448
People started coming
out of the woodwork
819
00:54:04,449 --> 00:54:06,450
and everyone had a theory
820
00:54:06,451 --> 00:54:11,456
as to who the cabin belonged
to, what was in the cabin.
821
00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:16,961
There were some comments about
Gary had discovered a witch,
822
00:54:16,962 --> 00:54:19,672
and she was making secret potions
823
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,049
and somehow he had gotten involved,
824
00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:26,220
and I mean it was crazy.
825
00:54:26,221 --> 00:54:28,055
Other people thought it was just a hermit,
826
00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:30,558
you know someone who just
wanted to be left alone.
827
00:54:32,268 --> 00:54:34,688
People thought that maybe
it was a government,
828
00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:39,109
secret government operation, aliens.
829
00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:42,737
I mean it's,
830
00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:44,947
I could go on and on
831
00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:47,533
about the many theories
that people thought.
832
00:54:47,534 --> 00:54:49,952
The only reasonable
explanation I could come up with
833
00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:52,997
was maybe, Gary had stumbled upon
834
00:54:52,998 --> 00:54:56,083
an illegal marijuana growing operation
835
00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:58,295
out there in the middle
of nowhere in Nevada
836
00:54:59,254 --> 00:55:03,049
and they killed him for
it, it has happened before.
837
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:05,300
But,
838
00:55:07,721 --> 00:55:08,805
I was wrong.
839
00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:17,856
I just couldn't shake
this sickening feeling.
840
00:55:28,408 --> 00:55:30,242
Before I knew it, the cops showed up
841
00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:32,619
and they had known all about his blog
842
00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:36,081
and I was actually on the
computer when they got there.
843
00:55:36,082 --> 00:55:40,627
And they gathered everything
up, seized everything,
844
00:55:40,628 --> 00:55:43,047
including his hard drives.
845
00:55:43,048 --> 00:55:44,673
Guys,
846
00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:46,133
another model train video here,
847
00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:48,761
I just got back from a flea market,
848
00:55:48,762 --> 00:55:51,097
and look what I picked up today.
849
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,478
Got a nice little HO diesel locomotive,
850
00:55:57,479 --> 00:55:59,563
lettered for one of my favorite railroads,
851
00:55:59,564 --> 00:56:01,649
it's called the California Western,
852
00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:04,736
out of Northern California.
853
00:56:07,739 --> 00:56:09,948
Set that down.
854
00:56:09,949 --> 00:56:14,954
Then got this brand new steam
engine for the Santa Fe.
855
00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:27,674
My private investigator
called and said that,
856
00:56:27,675 --> 00:56:32,680
the detectives on the case
wanted to meet with me.
857
00:56:32,722 --> 00:56:36,601
So I ended up going down
to the precinct and,
858
00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,606
they kept asking me, is
there anything you need?
859
00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:44,192
Have you eaten today?
860
00:56:45,318 --> 00:56:47,736
Just beating around the bush
861
00:56:47,737 --> 00:56:52,742
and I finally asked
them, what is going on?
862
00:56:54,577 --> 00:56:55,577
It's back on.
863
00:56:58,248 --> 00:57:00,082
We are back with a break in the case
864
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:02,251
of missing hiker, Gary Hinge.
865
00:57:02,252 --> 00:57:04,253
Was made yesterday when his backpack
866
00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:08,382
was discovered by a couple
camping in White Pine County.
867
00:57:08,383 --> 00:57:09,842
When they woke up in the morning,
868
00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:10,968
they found the backpack
869
00:57:10,969 --> 00:57:14,096
had been intentionally
placed in their campsite.
870
00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:15,639
What they found inside
871
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,184
has sent a shockwave
through the state of Nevada.
872
00:57:19,185 --> 00:57:23,230
Hinge's truck was found parked
in Eureka earlier this month.
873
00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:25,441
But police now say they have evidence
874
00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:26,817
that it was parked there,
875
00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:29,820
to throw off investigators
searching for him.
876
00:57:29,821 --> 00:57:34,200
They woke up to find Gary's backpack
877
00:57:37,495 --> 00:57:40,165
draped on a shovel that they had there.
878
00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:44,335
And when they opened it,
879
00:57:46,838 --> 00:57:49,174
Gary's belongings were in there,
880
00:57:56,848 --> 00:57:58,850
as well as a severed hand,
881
00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:02,269
Gary's hand.
882
00:58:22,874 --> 00:58:25,250
The way that his hand was severed
883
00:58:25,251 --> 00:58:28,170
was incredibly violent.
884
00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:32,382
The way that it was chopped
off, was just gruesome.
885
00:58:32,383 --> 00:58:34,176
It was deliberately placed there,
886
00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:38,555
because someone wanted it to be found.
887
00:58:38,556 --> 00:58:40,058
The forensic showed,
888
00:58:41,351 --> 00:58:44,979
that his hand had been severed,
889
00:58:46,814 --> 00:58:49,650
for more than five weeks.
890
00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:52,904
And it was still
clutching a video camera.
891
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,574
And what's even more crazy was,
892
00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:01,537
the hand wasn't like torn off from a body,
893
00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:03,956
it was a clean cut.
894
00:59:03,957 --> 00:59:05,250
I was gutted,
895
00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:10,713
by the fact that he had suffered.
896
00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:13,715
Once the camera was discovered,
897
00:59:13,716 --> 00:59:17,303
everybody wanted to know, is there a tape?
898
00:59:18,513 --> 00:59:20,264
And does the tape work?
899
00:59:20,265 --> 00:59:22,850
And what's on the tape?
900
00:59:24,936 --> 00:59:27,646
We were very anxious for the crime lab
901
00:59:27,647 --> 00:59:29,148
to process the evidence.
902
00:59:30,108 --> 00:59:33,777
And sure enough, when they did,
903
00:59:33,778 --> 00:59:36,072
the memory chip was still in the camera.
904
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:56,049
It was truly terrifying to watch
905
00:59:56,050 --> 01:00:01,055
and I can't even imagine the true horror
906
01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:03,141
that he faced out there.
907
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:08,729
Bill calls me and the
forensic investigators
908
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:13,693
have video of Gary's final moments
909
01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:17,780
and so they take us into a room.
910
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,699
The team thought it would be best
911
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,078
if I sat down with Beverly and
watched the videos with her,
912
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,832
because I had a relationship with her
913
01:00:28,833 --> 01:00:31,585
and I had a kind of a special rapport.
914
01:00:31,586 --> 01:00:33,170
So they thought it would probably be best
915
01:00:33,171 --> 01:00:34,922
if maybe I sat down with her first.
916
01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,842
Bill started the first video
917
01:00:38,843 --> 01:00:45,475
and there was Gary shining his
light around, saying hello.
918
01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:51,981
And the innocence in his voice,
919
01:00:54,734 --> 01:00:56,527
I just,
920
01:00:58,613 --> 01:00:59,781
I couldn't do it.
921
01:01:00,907 --> 01:01:01,991
I
922
01:01:03,534 --> 01:01:04,744
I had to stop.
923
01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:11,459
And then Bill finished watching.
924
01:01:27,308 --> 01:01:29,894
The clips begin
like all the other clips,
925
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,730
Gary's even smiling,
926
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:36,859
but he has no idea what's about to happen.
927
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,738
Hey guys, a little video update.
928
01:01:41,739 --> 01:01:43,116
I am.
929
01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:44,951
Oh, there's thunder.
930
01:01:45,785 --> 01:01:48,578
Storm's coming in, I
gotta make this quick.
931
01:01:48,579 --> 01:01:50,247
Got a whole nother ridge line to climb
932
01:01:50,248 --> 01:01:53,625
before I get to the spot
where I saw that shelter
933
01:01:53,626 --> 01:01:57,088
but I'm about halfway
there, a day and a half in.
934
01:01:59,507 --> 01:02:00,842
We'll see what we find.
935
01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:05,555
Climbed over one mountain range
already, got one more to go.
936
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:08,098
And, better make it quick,
937
01:02:08,099 --> 01:02:11,351
because that storm's coming in fast.
938
01:02:11,352 --> 01:02:13,104
We'll see what's on the other side.
939
01:02:14,021 --> 01:02:14,939
I got ways to go,
940
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:16,106
but, weird thing is,
941
01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:19,526
I'm already distinctly smelling the smoke,
942
01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:21,361
like I smelled last time.
943
01:02:21,362 --> 01:02:24,365
There's no fires around, there
shouldn't be anyone out here,
944
01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:28,244
but it's very faint but very
distinct smell of smoke.
945
01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:30,662
Kind of getting creeped out
946
01:02:30,663 --> 01:02:33,623
but not as much as I was last time yet.
947
01:02:33,624 --> 01:02:35,375
We'll see what happens.
948
01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:37,378
Look for another video update soon.
949
01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:32,178
All right, here's the final marker.
950
01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:27,522
From what you do see
from the person in the video,
951
01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:31,150
you can tell that they have a
lot of physical deformities.
952
01:15:31,151 --> 01:15:34,028
And it's probably one of the main reasons
953
01:15:34,029 --> 01:15:38,908
why they chose to live where they lived,
954
01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:42,204
they felt shunned by society.
955
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,543
When we found
out what actually happened,
956
01:15:51,046 --> 01:15:53,339
it was like this weight
957
01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:57,760
had been taken off of
Beverly and I's relationship.
958
01:15:57,761 --> 01:16:02,056
And now we're actually really close.
959
01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,977
And I actually consider
her kind of a big sister.
960
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,411
I'm just hiking
along, almost to the top.
961
01:16:24,371 --> 01:16:25,789
Over that mountain side.
962
01:16:29,334 --> 01:16:31,837
Still some thunder in the distance.
963
01:16:34,298 --> 01:16:36,173
Amazing how far you can hike
964
01:16:36,174 --> 01:16:39,510
and only seeing a couple of deer,
965
01:16:39,511 --> 01:16:42,596
how much wildlife that I've seen,
966
01:16:42,597 --> 01:16:45,142
I'm sure they see me, stay hidden.
967
01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:52,691
But just a lot of sagebrush
and trees and peaceful desert,
968
01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:58,195
to walk.
969
01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:01,908
The great thing about
Nevada, wide open spaces.
970
01:17:05,329 --> 01:17:08,539
Everybody immediately
wants to go and search
971
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:09,374
for the one thing
972
01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:12,501
that they've been told
not to go search for.
973
01:17:12,502 --> 01:17:15,921
And so now there's this
whole band of influencers
974
01:17:15,922 --> 01:17:20,927
who are out there wanting
to find this person
975
01:17:22,971 --> 01:17:25,473
and post about it and blog about it
976
01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:27,850
and make a video about it.
977
01:17:27,851 --> 01:17:28,851
And,
978
01:17:30,979 --> 01:17:32,105
to me that's,
979
01:17:34,066 --> 01:17:35,567
I mean, that's terrifying.
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