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>>> CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT
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HAPPENED?
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>> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THEY
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WERE ATTACKING YOU?
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THE NUMBER OF ATTACKS HAS REALLY
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INCREASED.
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>> OUR GOVERNMENT IS TOTALLY
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UNABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS
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SITUATION.
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>> THE GOVERNMENT IS NOW
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INFUSING MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY
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AND HOPING TO STABILIZE IT.
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>> WE HAVE PROVIDED MORE MONEY
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THAN WE HAVE IN AMERICAN
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HISTORY.
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>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW WILL
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THAT MONEY BE DIPLOID?
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>> THE FORMULA IS SO GROSSLY
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IRRESPONSIBLE.
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>> WE'RE IN THIS FOR THE LONG
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HALL.
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WHAT THE FUCK DO WE DO?
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>> YOU DON'T SEE THOSE RICH
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PEOPLE HELPING US OUT.
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>>> SO AS WE'RE DRIVING, 15 OR
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20 OR SO AT LEAST FAMILIES JUST
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LIKE THIS WALKING FROM BARCELONA
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TO KYA.
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IT'S ABOUT 45 KILOMETERS.
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IT WILL TAKE THEM ABOUT THREE
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DAYS.
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UNTIL RECENTLY A SMALL MAJORITY
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MUSLIM COUNTRY IN WEST AFRICA
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WAS RELATIVELY PEACEFUL.
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OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AL
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QAEDA, ISIS AND OTHER ARMED
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GROUPS WHO DEVASTATED A NEIGHBOR
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COUNTRY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
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CROSSOVER BORDERS AND LAUNCH
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INCREASINGLY VICIOUS ATTACKS.
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THE IMPACT ON CIVILIANS HAS BEEN
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DEVASTATING AND HUNDREDS OF
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THOUSANDS HAVE HAD TO FLEE THEIR
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HOMES.
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THIS FAMILY HAS JUST WALKED
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THROUGH THE NIGHT AFTER ANOTHER
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BRUTAL ATTACK.
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THERE ARE IDP CAMPS HERE, BUT
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OVER 85% OF THE INTERNALLY
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DISPLACED PEOPLE ARE SHELTERED
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AND FED BY HOST COMMUNITIES
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WHERE ENTIRE VILLAGES LED BY
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GENEROUS VOLUNTEERS LIKE THIS
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CHIEF SHARE EVERYTHING THEY
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HAVE.
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>> CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE THE
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ATTACK THAT MADE YOU FLEE HERE?
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>> DID YOU MANAGE TO COME WITH
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EVERY MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY?
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>> WE DROVE NORTH, THE VAST
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REGION BENEATH THE SAHARA DESERT
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THAT STRETCHES ACROSS AFRICA AND
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MANY ARE WORRYING IS THE NEXT
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LAWLESS SPACE WHERE TERRORIST
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CAN ATTRACT FOREIGN FIGHTERS AND
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ROAM FREELY.
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JUST FIVE DAYS EARLIER, ONE OF
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THE DEADLIEST ATTACKS SO FAR
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OCCURRED HERE WHEN AT LEAST 36
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PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN A MARKET
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AS STHEY SHOPPED FOR FOOD.
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WE SPOKE WITH THE SURVIVORS WHO
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FLED WITH THE BODIES OF THEIR
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LOVED ONES.
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>> THESE GRAVES ARE JUST FOUR
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DAYS OLD.
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ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF THE ATTACK
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ARE BURIED TOGETHER HERE.
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>> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO THEY
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WERE OR WHY THEY WERE ATTACKING
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YOU?
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>> DESPITE BEING THE SECOND
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LARGEST ETHNIC GROUP,
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TRADITIONALLY NOMADIC HERDERS
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HAVE LONG BEEN TREATED AS
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UNDERCLASS.
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GROUPS LIKE AL QAEDA AND ISIS
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HAVE EXPLOITED THEM AND TARGETED
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THEM FOR RECRUITMENT.
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THIS HAS LED TO A COMMON
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PERCEPTION INCLUDING AMONG THE
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GOVERNMENT MILITARY THEY ARE
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TERRORISTS, FUELING THE
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VIOLENCE, INCREASING ETHNIC
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TENSIONS.
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THIS SCHOOLBOY WAS DRIVEN TO A
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MILITARY CAMP.
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HE AGREED TO TALK US TO, BUT
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ONLY IF HE COULD HIDE HIS FACE.
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>> DID THEY TELL YOU WHY THEY
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WERE TAKING PEOPLE?
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DID THEY ACCUSE YOU OF
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SHELTERING THE TERRORISTS OR
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KNOWING ACT THE TERRORISTS OR
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EVEN BEING TERRORISTS?
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>> AND OF THOSE WHO WERE TAKEN
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AND WERE KILLED OR HAVE JUST
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NEVER BEEN SEEN AGAIN, WERE ANY
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YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS?
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>> JUST 15, HE WAS FREED BECAUSE
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HE WAS SO YOUNG AND NOW LIVES
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ALONE, SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR OF
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THIS CLASSROOM.
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HAVE THE AUTHORITIES CONTACTED
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YOUR FAMILY AT ALL TO TELL YOU
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE FOUR
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RELATIVES OF YOURS?
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>> MILITARY ATTACKS LIKE THESE
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ARE KILLING ALMOST AS MANY
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CIVILIANS AS THE TERRORISTS.
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ENTIRE COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS ONE
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HAVE BEEN FORCED TO FLEE THEIR
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HOMES.
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SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING
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HERE?
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YOU THINK AT THE VERY LEAST
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THESE POLICIES MIGHT BE MAKING
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THE TERRORIST MORE ATTRACTIVE TO
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SOME PEOPLE.
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>> ETHNIC DIVISIONS AREN'T THE
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ONLY THING FUELING THIS CRISIS.
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THIS IS ONE OF THE POOREST
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NATIONS ON EARTH, BUT IT HAS
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BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN POTENTIAL
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WEALTH IN GOLD, MUCH OF IT
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UNTAPPED AND THEREFORE HIGHLY
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ATTRACTIVE TO TERRORIST GROUPS
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LIKE AL QAEDA AND ISIS IN NEED
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OF FUNDING.
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MOST OF THE GOLD MINES HERE
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SMALL AR TISAL OPERATIONS
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WITHOUT SECURITY.
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THEY ARE YOUNG, POORLY PAID
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WORKERS, MANY NOT EVEN
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TEENAGERS.
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>> WHAT'S IT LIKE TO WORK HERE
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EVERYDAY?
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>> DO YOU FEEL SAFE WORKING HERE
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BECAUSE NOT FAR AWAY THERE ARE
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TERRORIST GROUPS ATTACKING MORE
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AND MORE OFTEN AND SOMETIMES
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ATTACKING AREAS WHERE THERE IS
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GOLD?
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>> EVEN THOSE WORKING IN LARGE
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FOREIGN OWNED GOLD MINES ARE NOT
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SAFE.
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IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR, FIVE
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BUSES TAKING WORKERS CAME UNDER
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ATTACK DESPITE HAVING A MILITARY
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ESCORT.
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37 PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
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>> HOW DID YOU SURVIVE?
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>> SUCH ATTACKS MEAN THE FEW AID
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AGENCIES THAT OPERATE HERE, THE
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BRAVE RELIEF WORKERS WHO ARE
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HERE STRUGGLE TO COPE WITH
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LIMITED RESOURCES.
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THIS SCHOOL IS LOOKING AFTER
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1,600 CHILDREN.
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AND WHAT MENTAL STATE ARE THEY
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WHEN THEY ARRIVE HERE?
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>> BEFORE WE LEFT, WE WENT BACK
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TO THE HOST COMMUNITY RUN BY THE
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CHIEF.
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THE FAMILIES WHO FLED HERE ARE
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SAFE FOR NOW BUT NO ONE KNOWS
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HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST.
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YOU RECEIVED ONE MORE FAMILY WHO
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FLED.
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HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY MORE
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FAMILIES SINCE THEN?
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>> THE CHIEF HAS TAKEN IN SO
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MANY FAMILIES SINCE WE WERE LAST
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HERE ON SATURDAY THAT HE NOW
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SAYS HE HAS NO MANY PEOPLE HE'S
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LOOKING AFTER.
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IT WAS 450 PEOPLE ON SATURDAY.
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IT'S NOW SOMETHING LIKE 550.
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AND NOW HAVING TO HUDDLE ON
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SHEETS OUTSIDE ON THE STREET
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BECAUSE HIS COMPOUND IS
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COMPLETELY FULL.
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ONE OF THE AID AGENCIES HERE
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SAYS THAT AS A WHOLE THEY HAVE
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ABOUT 560,000 DISPLACED PEOPLE
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RIGHT NOW, BUT WITH THE WAY
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THINGS ARE GOING, THEY THINK
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THERE WILL BE 900,000 DISPLACED
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PEOPLE HERE BY APRIL OF THIS
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YEAR.
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>>> IT'S THAT CORONAVIRUS
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UNCERTAINTY WHICH SENT THE DOW
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PLUNGING MORE THAN 1,000 POINTS
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YESTERDAY.
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>> FELT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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>> FACTORIES HAVE CLOSED.
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BUSINESSES HAVE SHUT DOWN.
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>> ANOTHER 5 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE
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FILED FOR JOBLESS CLAIMS.
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>> BRINGING THE TOTAL TO MORE
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THAN 30 MILLION.
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>> REALLY THOSE NUMBERS ARE JUST
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ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL.
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>> WE ARE GOING INTO A GLOBAL
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RECESSION.
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>> I MEAN, IT IS AFFECTING US
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DOWN HERE.
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AND A DAY WHEN THE MARKETS ARE
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OPEN.
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EVEN AFTER SEPTEMBER 11th, THE
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LAST TIME THE CITY WAS SHUT DOWN
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IN SUCH A BIG WAY, GRAND CENTRAL
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STATION WAS BUSTLING.
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PEOPLE WERE COMING IN.
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PEOPLE WERE COMING OUT.
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I CAN'T THINK ANY ANALOGOUS
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SITUATION IN NEW YORK WHERE
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EVERYTHING IS EMPTY.
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>> THIS TEAM AND THE TEAM WE
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HAVE WORKING ON THIS NEW YORKERS
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SHOULD HAVE TOTAL CONFIDENCE.
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>> ON MARCH 20th, NEW YORK STATE
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WAS A ROLLING BLACKOUT OF
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AMERICAN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WHEN
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GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO SIGNED A
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DRASTIC BUT INNOCUOUS ORDER.
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>> ONLY ESSENTIAL BUSINESSES
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WILL BE FUNCTIONING.
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>> Reporter: WITHIN DAYS OF THE
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ANNOUNCEMENT, THE STRONGEST JOBS
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MARKET IN RECENT MEMORY SAW
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DOUBLE DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT.
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THE LONGEST RUNNING BULL MARKET
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IN HISTORY TURNED INTO THE MOST
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PRECIPITOUS STOCK MARKET DROP
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EVER RECORDED.
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>> IF THE ECONOMY WERE A HUMAN
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BODY, WE JUST HAD A HEART
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ATTACK.
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>> Reporter: ANDREW LOWE, AN
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ECONOMIST AT M.I.T. SLOAN SCHOOL
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OF MANAGEMENT.
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WILL THIS BE WORSE THAN 2008?
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>> IN TERMS OF UNEMPLOYMENT, IT
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WILL BE WORSE.
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FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, LIFE IS
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GOING TO LOOK VERY HARD AND IT'S
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GOING TO LOOK VERY SCARY BECAUSE
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A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES ARE JUST
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NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.
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>> Reporter: BUT HOW LONG CAN WE
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SUSTAIN THE CURRENT SITUATION?
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>> I BELIEVE THAT ANOTHER THREE
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TO SIX MONTHS OF THIS IS
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DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED TO
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BE EXPECTING, POSSIBLY ANOTHER
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SIX TO 12 MONTHS IF THERE'S A
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RESURGENCE OF THE INFECTION.
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THE ECONOMIC FALLOUT FROM
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COVID-19 IS REALLY LACK OF
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CONFIDENCE IN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
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>> THIS LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR
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DIRECT PAYMENTS TO INDIVIDUALS
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AT UNPRECEDENTED RATES AS WELL
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AS MAUL BUSINESSES.
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>> Reporter: A MASSIVE $2
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TRILLION STIMULUS PACKAGE.
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IT WAS THE LARGEST ECONOMIC
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BAILOUT IN U.S. HISTORY.
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>> THE QUESTION IN ALL OF THE
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ECONOMISTS MINDS IS -- HOW WILL
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THAT MONEY BE DEPLOYED?
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IF DEPLOYED PROPERLY, IT WILL
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HAVE TREMENDOUSLY POSITIVE
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EFFECT, BUT IF USED INCORRECTLY,
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IT COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOME
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PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE
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CONSEQUENCES.
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WE DON'T NEED BAILOUTS FOR
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INVESTORS.
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WE NEED BAILOUTS FOR WORKERS.
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>> Reporter: WHILE RETAIL
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GIANTS, HOTELS AND AIRLINE
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INDUSTRIES, SMALL BUSINESSES
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WERE LEFT WONDERING HOW TO
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SURVIVE.
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JENNIFER DELUCA THE OWNER OF
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BODY TONIC, THE PI LA TEES GYM
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HE HAS RUN OVER 20 YEARS IN
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BROOKLYN.
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>> RATE OF 65% OF OUR NORMAL
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ACTIVITY COMPLETELY VIRTUAL.
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>> HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU
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HAVE?
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>> NINE AT THIS TIME.
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I HAVEN'T LET ANYBODY GO.
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I HAVE TO REALLY BE CAREFUL THAT
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I'M NOT HAVING THEM WORK TO
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THEIR DETRIMENT.
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RIGHT NOW I'M PAYING THEM MORE
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THAN THEY CAN GET FROM
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UNEMPLOYMENT.
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AT SOME POINT IT MAY LOOK LIKE
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FIRING THEM IS BETTER THAN THEM.
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THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET
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FIGURED OUT.
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>> Reporter: AT THE BEGINNINGF
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APRIL, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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LAUNCHED A FIRST COME, FIRST
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SERVE LOAN PROGRAM FOR SMALL
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BUSINESSES.
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IT RAN OUT OF MONEY AFTER 13
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DAYS.
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JENNIFER FILED FOR APPLICATION
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THE DAY THE PROGRAM OPENED.
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BUT IT TOOK OVER A MONTH TO
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RECEIVE ANY RELIEF MONEY.
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>> I'M JUST WONDERING WHY CHASE
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WAS UNABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY, YOU
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KNOW, JUST FOR ME TO CALL.
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>> YES.
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I JUST DO GENERAL CUSTOMER
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SERVICE.
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>> OKAY.
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>> Reporter: HALF OF AMERICA'S
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WORKERS ARE EMPLOYED BY A SMALL
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BUSINESS.
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RECENT POLLING DATA SUGGESTS
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THAT NEARLY HALF OF SMALL
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BUSINESSES DON'T THINK THEY'LL
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SURVIVE WITHOUT EITHER
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SUBSTANTIAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT
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OR A REOPENED ECONOMY.
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AS THE COSTS OF PROPPING UP THE
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ECONOMY SKYROCKET, STATES ARE
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LOOKING TO THE FEDERAL
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GOVERNMENT TO FILL IN THE GAPS.
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WE SPOKE WITH NEW YORK CITY'S
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CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER SCOTT
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STRINGER THE DAY BEFORE THE
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FIRST STIMULUS PACKAGE PASSED.
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DESPITE HAVING ALMOST HALF THE
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NATION DIAGNOSED COVID CASES AT
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THE TIME THE EMERGENCY RELIEF
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BILL EARMARKED ONLY 5% OF ITS
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MONEY FOR NEW YORK.
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TELL ME -- YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
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HAS BEEN PASSED IN WASHINGTON,
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D.C.?
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>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STIMULUS
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AND SEE THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS,
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THERE IS REASON FOR HOPE.
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AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN AS YOU
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GET A LITTLE OPTIMISTIC YOU READ
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THE FINE PRINT NEW YORK NEED NOT
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APPLY.
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THE FORMULA THAT IS BEING
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ATTACHED TO THIS SPENDING BILL
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SHORTCHANGES NEW YORK STATE AND
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NEW YORK CITY IN A WAY THAT IS
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SO GROSSLY IRRESPONSIBLE IF THE
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VIRUS IS NOT CORRECTED IN THE
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SHORT TERM THE CITY IS GOING TO
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LOSE AT LEAST $6 BILLION OF
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REVENUE.
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WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE MONEY
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FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE.
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WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE MONEY
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FOR EDUCATION.
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WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PROTECT
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OUR CITY WORKERS.
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THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON
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THE FRONT LINE RISKING THEIR
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LIVES GOING TO WORK EVERYDAY,
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HELPING AT GREAT PERSONAL RISK.
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>> Reporter: BUT SOME OF THOSE
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FRONT LINE WORKERS WON'T SEE A
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PENNY OF FEDERAL RELIEF MONEY.
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MARIA IS FROM ECUADOR, SHE
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LIVED, RAISED A FAMILY AND
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WORKED IN THE U.S. FOR 20 YEARS.
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MOST OF HIS INCOME HAS
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DISAPPEARED BECAUSE OF THE
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CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK.
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>> A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE
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GOVERNMENT AND GET UNEMPLOYMENT
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FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
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CAN YOU GET THAT, TOO?
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>> NO.
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>> IF NO ONE WORKS, HOW ARE WE
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GOING TO BUY FOOD?
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HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET CLOTHES?
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IF WE DON'T PAY OUR RENT, HOW
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THE FUCK ARE WE GOING TO STAY
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WARM IN OUR HOUSE.
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YOU DON'T SEE THESE RICH PEOPLE
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COMING HELPING US OUT.
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>> Reporter: IN CRISIS, THERE'S
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ALWAYS POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY.
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SOME ARE JOINING THE BURGEONING
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MOVEMENT OF TENANTS REFUSING TO
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PAY RENT.
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>> READY, THREE, TWO, ONE.
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RED STRIKE.
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>> MORE THAN HALF OF OUR UNITS
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ARE NOT PAYING RENT THIS MONTH.
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OUR LANDLORD HAS 87 MILLION REAL
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ESTATE PORTFOLIO, HE OWNS 50
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BUILDINGS ALL OVER THE CITY.
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IF YOU'RE ASKING WHO IS BEST
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SITUATED TO TAKE THE HIT,
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LANDLORDS, REAL ESTATE.
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DIP IN THEIR POCKETS AND HAVE US
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MOVE FORWARD AS A SOCIETY
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TOGETHER.
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>> Reporter: AS THE VIRUS SPREAD
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ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SO IS THE
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CANCELLED RENT CAMPAIGN EVEN
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GETTING SUPPORT AMONGST
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PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS.
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>> AT A TIME WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE
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ARE THREATENED BY PANDEMIC,
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THEIR LIVES SHOULDN'T ALSO BE
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THREATENED BY THE FEAR OF
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EVICTION OR WORSE.
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>> Reporter: WHILE MANY ARE
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EDUCATING FOR COLLECTIVE ACTION,
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OTHERS ARE EMBRACING ANY
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OPPORTUNITY THEY CAN.
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SOME COMPANIES HAVE SAVED JOBS
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BY SHIFTING THEIR PRODUCTION
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CAPABILITIES TO THE ONE THING
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EVERYONE NEEDS -- MEDICAL
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EQUIPMENT.
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WE STARTED ASSEMBLING THESE
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YESTERDAY.
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WE CUTTED THEM ON MONDAY.
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TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT
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SOMETHING YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY
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DONE?
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>> NO.
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THIS IS INSPIRING TO SEE HOW
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QUICKLY PEOPLE FIGURED OUT A WAY
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TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS NEEDED
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AND NOT JUST DO IT IN A SMALL
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WAY BUT IN A VERY BIG WAY.
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>> THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT
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ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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COMPELLED BY PATRIOTISM, PROFIT
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AND THE PRESIDENT.
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>> EVERY ONE OF YOU ARE HEROES
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RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE
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PROVIDING THE SUPPLIES THAT ARE
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GOING TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT
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OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS.
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>> Reporter: THE WAR EFFORT
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RHETORIC IS INSPIRING AND
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SKILLFULLY EXPLOITED BY
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POLITICIANS, THE VAST MAJORITY
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OF BUSINESSES CAN'T RETOOL THEIR
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OPERATIONS AND REOPEN.
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AS THE NATIONAL DEBT BALLOONS
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AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TOLL OF
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SHELTERING IN PLACE MOUNTS, SO
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TOO THE DEMANDS TO REOPEN THE
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ECONOMY.
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>> OPEN OHIO NOW!
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>> THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT WAS
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BUILT ON GETTING IT DONE.
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OUR PEOPLE WANT TO GO BACK TO
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WORK.
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I'M HEARING IT LOUD AND CLEAR
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FROM EVERYBODY.
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>> Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP SAW
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HISTORICALLY LOW UNEMPLOYMENT
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NUMBERS AS HIS RETURN TICKET TO
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THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT IT'S NOW
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POSSIBLE HE MIGHT ENTER NOVEMBER
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WITH THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT
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RATE IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
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IT'S ONE REASON REPUBLICANS ARE
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GETTING IMPATIENT.
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>> HERE IS THE PROBLEM, WE HAVE
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FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL
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GOVERNMENTS WHO ARE INTERFERING
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WITH PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO CARRY
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OUT THEIR LIVELIHOODS.
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>> YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT
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SHOULDN'T BE INTERVENING AND
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SAYING THAT YOU CANNOT DO THIS,
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YOU CANNOT DO THAT, YOU CANNOT
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BE OPEN?
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>> OTHER THAN A VERY BRIEF
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EMERGENT RESPONSE, SHORT OF
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FLATTEN THE CURVE IF YOU WANT TO
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USE THAT PHRASING.
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THAT PART HAS A REASONABLE BASIS
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ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS FOR
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GOVERNMENT TO SAY, HEY, PAUSE.
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BUT WE'RE PAST THAT.
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WE'RE TO THE POINT NOW WHERE
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WE'RE INTERFERING WITH LIBERTY.
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WE'RE INTERFERING WITH A
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GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO TAKE CARE OF
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YOUR FAMILY.
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HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING
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HARMED THAN BEING HELPED BECAUSE
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OF OUR DECISIONS?
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>> Reporter: THE ARGUMENT THAT
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THE CURE IS NOW WORSE THAN THE
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DISEASE HAS BEEN EMBRACED BY
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MANY ELECTED REPUBLICANS.
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THEIR VIEWS ARE OFTEN CRIBBED
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FROM DR. DAVID KATZ, FORMER
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DIRECTOR OF THE YALE GRIFFIN
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PREVENTION RESEARCH CENTER AND
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OUTSPOKEN LIBERAL.
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IN MARCH, KATZ WROTE A
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CONTROVERSIAL ARTICLE "THE NEW
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YORK TIMES."
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>> A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR YOUR
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NAME FOR THE FIRST TIME AS IT
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RELATES TO CORONAVIRUS.
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WITH THE PIECE THAT YOU WROTE
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FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES.
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TELL ME ABOUT THE PIECE.
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>> I WAS CONCERNED AT THE VERY
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BEGINNING OF THIS THAT IF WHAT
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SHUTTING
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EVERYTHING DOWN, I WORRY ABOUT
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WHAT THAT WILL DO TO SOCIAL
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DETERMINE NANS OF HEALTH, THINGS
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LIKE FOOD INSECURITY, THE DANGER
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OF TURNING TOWARD ADDICTION AND
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THE POTENTIAL FOR DOMESTIC
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VIOLENCE.
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WE MAY HAVE A SPIKE IN DEATH
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FROM OTHER CAUSES BECAUSE WE'VE
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CREATED SUCH FIXATED ATTENTION
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ON CORONAVIRUS TO THE EXCLUSION
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OF ALL ELSE.
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IF WE IDENTIFY PEOPLE WHO ARE AT
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ELEVATED RISK OF SEVERE
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INFECTION AND DOUBLE DOWN ON
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PROTECTING THEM, WE ACHIEVE TWO
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THINGS BY LETTING THOSE OF US AT
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LOWER RISK BACK OUT INTO THE
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WORLD.
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ONE, SOME SEMBLANCE OF LIFE AS
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WE KNEW IT IS RESTORED.
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THOSE OF US OUT IN THE WORLD ARE
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LIKELY TO ENCOUNTER THE
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CORONAVIRUS.
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THAT'S SORT OF THE POINT.
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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET
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EXPOSED IT TO, GET OVER IT, MAKE
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ANTIBODIES BECAUSE THAT'S THE
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ALL CLEAR.
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>> PEOPLE ARE APOPLECTIC.
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>> TO BE CLEAR, I WAS NEVER
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SAYING LET EVERYBODY'S
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GRANDPARENTS OUT THERE, TAKE
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THEIR CHANCES.
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THE IDEA WAS, NO, LET'S PROTECT
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THE GRANDPARENTS BUT MAYBE SOME
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OF US NEED TO BE OUT IN THE
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WORLD SO THE GRAND PARENTS HAVE
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A FOOD SUPPLY.
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BUT ALL OF THIS GOT CONVERTED
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INTO A PRESIDENTIAL TWEET.
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WE'RE GOING BACK TO WORK BY
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EASTER.
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THAT WASN'T ME.
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>> BUT YOU GOT BLAMED FOR IT.
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>> I GUESS I DID.
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IF YOU WANT TO DISLIKE ME OR MY
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OPINIONS, FINE.
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BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IF ANYBODY
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TELLS YOU THEY KNOW WITH
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ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY HOW BAD THIS
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IS GOING TO BE, RUN LIKE HELL IN
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THE OTHER DIRECTION BECAUSE WE
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DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO KNOW
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ANYTHING FOR SURE.
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THE ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE IS
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WE NEED MORE DATA.
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>> Reporter: IT'S THIS VERY LACK
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OF DATA THAT KATZ'S POINTS SITE
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TO JUSTIFY CURRENT LOCKDOWN
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POLICIES AND DATA MODELS THAT
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BLINDLY REOPENING SOCIETY COULD
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LEAD TO A DEADLY SECOND WAVE OF
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CORONAVIRUS INFECTIONS.
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>> WE CANNOT OPEN UP TO OUR
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ECONOMY BASED ON FALSEHOODS.
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>> BUT SUMMER APPROACHES, LOCAL
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GOVERNMENTS ARE CONTENDING WITH
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RESTLESS POPULATIONS.
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HOUSE MINORITY LEADER KEVIN
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McCARTHY FREQUENTLY CONSULTS
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WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP ON COVID-19
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POLICY AND SETS REPUBLICAN
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POLICY IN THE HOUSE AND HE
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THINKS IT'S TIME TO REOPEN THE
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ECONOMY.
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>> THERE IS OBVIOUSLY ENORMOUS
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AMOUNT OF PUSHBACK THE SECOND
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SOMEBODY SAYS WE SHOULD OPEN
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THINGS BACK.
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IF WE LOOK AT GOVERNOR KEMP IN
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GEORGIA, DO YOU THINK THAT
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GOVERNOR KEMP IS MAKING THE
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RIGHT DECISION?
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>> LOOK, IT'S PROBABLY UNFAIR
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FOR ME TO MAKE THAT ANSWER
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BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE DATA ON
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THE GROUND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
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GEORGIA.
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EACH STATE IS DIFFERENT.
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I THINK YOU WANT TO PHASE IN
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BASED UPON WHAT IS THE SCIENCE
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AND THE DATA TELLING YOU ON THE
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GROUND.
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WE NEED TO DO THIS IN A COMMON
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SENSE, HEALTHY WAY, BUT I DO
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BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
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>> TELL ME HOW THIS ENDS.
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HOW DO WE GET OUT OF IT?
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>> THIS IS HOW IT ENDS, SHORT
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AMOUNT OF TIME YOU'RE GOING TO
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FIND THE INGENUITY OF AMERICA,
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WE'LL FIND THAT AMERICANS JUST
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LIKE ANY OTHER CHALLENGE WE HAVE
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HAD FROM BE IT WAR, SPANISH FLU,
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WE'LL OVERCOME THIS.
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WE'LL BE STRONGER.
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