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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,959 --> 00:00:03,337 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:03,337 --> 00:00:04,796 PETER HAMMERSTEDT: We have to do this 3 00:00:04,796 --> 00:00:07,007 under the cover of darkness. 4 00:00:07,007 --> 00:00:09,176 There could be eyes watching us. 5 00:00:09,176 --> 00:00:11,595 It's only through a stealth mission, really, 6 00:00:11,595 --> 00:00:12,763 that we'll have any success 7 00:00:12,763 --> 00:00:15,724 intercepting an illegal operator. 8 00:00:15,724 --> 00:00:17,351 MARIANA VAN ZELLER: I'm on the trail 9 00:00:17,351 --> 00:00:20,771 of what some consider the perfect crime. 10 00:00:20,771 --> 00:00:25,984 A black market worth more than $20 billion, 11 00:00:25,984 --> 00:00:29,696 with little risk of getting caught. 12 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:32,532 I'm told it's like robbing a bank 13 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:36,411 in the middle of the ocean. 14 00:00:36,411 --> 00:00:38,247 So you see these lights out there on the ocean, 15 00:00:38,247 --> 00:00:40,791 those are the six super trawlers. 16 00:00:40,791 --> 00:00:42,668 PETER: One of the reasons that we're all black 17 00:00:42,668 --> 00:00:44,253 is so that these super trawlers 18 00:00:44,253 --> 00:00:45,921 don’t see that a patrol is under way, 19 00:00:45,921 --> 00:00:48,632 that they don’t see us leaving the harbor. 20 00:00:48,632 --> 00:00:50,926 MARIANA: Somewhere out there in the darkness 21 00:00:50,926 --> 00:00:55,639 are the most prolific wildlife poachers on the planet. 22 00:00:55,639 --> 00:00:58,100 Who are they? How do they work? 23 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:01,645 And why is it so hard to stop them? 24 00:01:01,645 --> 00:01:04,231 I thought I knew black markets, 25 00:01:04,231 --> 00:01:07,192 but I’ve never seen anything like this. 26 00:01:07,192 --> 00:01:11,405 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:15,409 ♪ ♪ 28 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:19,454 PETER: In this mass expanse of water, 29 00:01:19,454 --> 00:01:20,831 we're looking for ships 30 00:01:20,831 --> 00:01:23,292 that are doing everything that they can to hide. 31 00:01:23,292 --> 00:01:26,753 ♪ ♪ 32 00:01:26,753 --> 00:01:28,505 MARIANA: I've come to Liberia 33 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:31,383 to understand how illegal fishing works. 34 00:01:31,383 --> 00:01:33,427 PETER: These trawlers come in direct conflict 35 00:01:33,427 --> 00:01:34,511 with the local fishermen, 36 00:01:34,511 --> 00:01:36,597 because they're literally stealing fish 37 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,974 from the local communities here. 38 00:01:38,974 --> 00:01:40,976 MARIANA: Some countries have the resources 39 00:01:40,976 --> 00:01:43,603 to protect their own waters from poachers; 40 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:45,188 others don’t. 41 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:47,691 That's why Liberia has enlisted the help 42 00:01:47,691 --> 00:01:51,611 of an international organization called Sea Shepherd. 43 00:01:51,611 --> 00:01:55,907 On board are a 30‐person crew, the Liberian Coast Guard 44 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:58,368 and my guide to this joint patrol, 45 00:01:58,368 --> 00:02:02,622 20‐year Sea Shepherd veteran Peter Hammerstedt. 46 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:04,124 Peter currently heads 47 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:06,960 Sea Shepherd’s task force in Africa, 48 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,047 a region plagued by overfishing. 49 00:02:10,047 --> 00:02:11,715 What’s causing the overfishing? 50 00:02:11,715 --> 00:02:13,342 PETER: You have a European fleet 51 00:02:13,342 --> 00:02:16,595 that's at a massive overcapacity, 52 00:02:16,595 --> 00:02:19,014 two and a half times what it could sustainably fish 53 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:20,474 in European waters. 54 00:02:20,474 --> 00:02:22,434 You have a Chinese distant water fishing fleet 55 00:02:22,434 --> 00:02:26,188 that has essentially wiped out fisheries off the coast of China 56 00:02:26,188 --> 00:02:28,940 and that is now seeking waters to fish elsewhere. 57 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:31,318 And these two massive fishing fleets 58 00:02:31,318 --> 00:02:32,402 from Europe, from China, 59 00:02:32,402 --> 00:02:34,196 have congregated in areas 60 00:02:34,196 --> 00:02:36,698 where, historically, there still has been fish. 61 00:02:36,698 --> 00:02:38,575 Places like West Africa. 62 00:02:41,328 --> 00:02:43,038 MARIANA: There's no global framework 63 00:02:43,038 --> 00:02:46,583 that governs what is legal in the fishing industry. 64 00:02:46,583 --> 00:02:48,919 That’s a huge part of the problem. 65 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,921 And in places like West Africa, 66 00:02:50,921 --> 00:02:54,508 foreign trawlers can take advantage of patchy regulation, 67 00:02:54,508 --> 00:02:55,967 poor enforcement 68 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:59,805 and the rampant corruption of some local officials. 69 00:02:59,805 --> 00:03:03,350 It's a low‐risk, high‐reward crime, 70 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:07,521 but the Sea Shepherd is trying to change that. 71 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,481 PETER: Six miles offshore, no industrial vessels 72 00:03:09,481 --> 00:03:12,275 are allowed inside of an inshore exclusion zone. 73 00:03:12,275 --> 00:03:15,070 But when there's no patrolling presence at sea, 74 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:18,407 these trawlers routinely turn off their location transponders, 75 00:03:18,407 --> 00:03:20,367 and they go in. 76 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:23,370 MARIANA: Every large commercial fishing vessel is equipped 77 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:27,582 with an Automatic Identification System, or AIS, 78 00:03:27,582 --> 00:03:30,919 which transmits its position at sea. 79 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,629 If I were to be fishing illegal 80 00:03:32,629 --> 00:03:34,214 inside the exclusion zones, 81 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:36,508 as a captain of a ship, I would turn off the AIS? 82 00:03:36,508 --> 00:03:38,260 PETER: You’d get close to the prohibited area. 83 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:40,053 That’s when you would turn your AIS off. 84 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:41,888 And you wouldn't reappear on AIS 85 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:45,392 until you’ve left that prohibited area. 86 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:47,310 MARIANA: In order to directly observe 87 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:49,187 suspicious fishing vessels, 88 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:53,483 we need to get closer to them and avoid being detected. 89 00:03:53,483 --> 00:03:57,612 That means we wait for the cover of nightfall again. 90 00:03:57,612 --> 00:04:01,783 ♪ ♪ 91 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:05,078 WOMAN: So these are the vessels that we are looking at. 92 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:08,039 At the moment they are about three miles away from us. 93 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,041 MARIANA: We’re super close to this trawler, right? 94 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:12,252 WOMAN: At the moment, yes. We can see them. 95 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:13,336 MARIANA: Oh, you can actually see them? 96 00:04:13,336 --> 00:04:14,588 PETER: Yeah. 97 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:15,964 MARIANA: Oh, it’s that, what, light over there. 98 00:04:15,964 --> 00:04:17,257 WOMAN: Yes. 99 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:18,383 MARIANA: So that’s the boat we're going after? 100 00:04:18,383 --> 00:04:19,801 WOMAN: Yes. 101 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:22,471 MARIANA: The Sea Shepherd crew has found and identified 102 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:27,225 a trawler with a known history of turning off its AIS. 103 00:04:27,225 --> 00:04:29,686 What have you guys been able to find out about this boat? 104 00:04:29,686 --> 00:04:31,480 PETER: There's not that much known about this vessel, 105 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,065 which is suspicious in and of itself. 106 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:36,818 We know that this vessel has a long history of dark periods, 107 00:04:36,818 --> 00:04:38,820 where they turn off their location transponder. 108 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:42,115 And we know that they've done some suspicious identity changes 109 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:45,952 in, especially, claiming to be a Somali vessel, 110 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:48,455 as soon as a month and a half ago. 111 00:04:48,455 --> 00:04:49,790 Uh, this is a vessel 112 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:52,083 that we think is most likely flagged to Senegal, 113 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:56,838 but with a beneficial owner that’s in Spain. 114 00:04:56,838 --> 00:05:01,843 MARIANA: Peter has a long history with the Spanish. 115 00:05:01,843 --> 00:05:03,595 Back in the early 2000s, 116 00:05:03,595 --> 00:05:06,473 one out of every three fish in the Antarctic 117 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:08,517 was being caught illegally... 118 00:05:08,517 --> 00:05:11,561 most by Spanish‐owned vessels. 119 00:05:11,561 --> 00:05:15,857 Some were brought to justice, but six trawlers kept at it, 120 00:05:15,857 --> 00:05:18,443 evading authorities by changing their colors, 121 00:05:18,443 --> 00:05:21,571 their flags and even their names. 122 00:05:21,571 --> 00:05:24,533 They were known as the Bandit 6. 123 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:27,702 The most notorious, a vessel that made millions 124 00:05:27,702 --> 00:05:31,790 poaching Chilean sea bass, was known as the Thunder. 125 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,167 And Peter helped bring it down. 126 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:36,837 PETER: We found the Thunder fishing in a CCAMLR region. 127 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:38,421 They’re not licensed to fish down here. 128 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:41,049 There’s an Interpol Purple Notice issued for this vessel. 129 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:42,968 We've told the vessel that they're under arrest 130 00:05:42,968 --> 00:05:46,429 and we've told them to go to Fremantle, Australia. 131 00:05:46,429 --> 00:05:49,933 We saw this vessel emerge out of the fog. 132 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:53,019 PETER: That would begin what ultimately would become 133 00:05:53,019 --> 00:05:56,064 the longest maritime pursuit in history. 134 00:05:56,064 --> 00:05:57,941 The chase stretched across three oceans, 135 00:05:57,941 --> 00:06:02,612 covering 11,000 nautical miles, and covered 110 days. 136 00:06:02,612 --> 00:06:05,740 (ship horn blowing) 137 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:07,242 MARIANA: And then in the end what happened? 138 00:06:07,242 --> 00:06:10,287 PETER: Ultimately, unable to shake us as the pursuers, 139 00:06:10,287 --> 00:06:13,707 the captain of the Thunder decided to sink his own ship, 140 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,418 in an attempt to destroy the evidence on board. 141 00:06:16,418 --> 00:06:17,711 MARIANA: Were they able to? 142 00:06:17,711 --> 00:06:19,462 PETER: As they abandoned the ship, 143 00:06:19,462 --> 00:06:22,048 three of my crew boarded the vessel with cameras. 144 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:25,093 They were able to seize nautical charts, mobile phones, 145 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:26,428 computer hard drives, 146 00:06:26,428 --> 00:06:28,555 evidence that was turned over to Interpol, 147 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:32,475 who then used that evidence to chase down the owner. 148 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:35,395 She’s going down. 149 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:37,564 MARIANA: Although several crew members of the Thunder 150 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:39,107 were sent to prison, 151 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:43,320 the shipowner, like the owners of the other Bandit 6 vessels, 152 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,906 remained free. 153 00:06:45,906 --> 00:06:49,159 And Peter is confident that many of those same players 154 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:52,537 are still active in the illegal fishing game today. 155 00:06:52,537 --> 00:06:54,205 WOMAN: At the moment, they cannot see us. 156 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:57,083 They can probably see a very small red light, 157 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:59,502 but not able to ID what we are. 158 00:06:59,502 --> 00:07:01,254 PETER: And we've also reduced the speed, 159 00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:03,840 so we're matching their speed of about three knots, 160 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,884 which is a speed indicative of fishing. 161 00:07:05,884 --> 00:07:07,719 So if they're just looking at us on radar, 162 00:07:07,719 --> 00:07:10,388 they’re going to think that we’re another trawler. 163 00:07:10,388 --> 00:07:11,848 MARIANA: Mmm. 164 00:07:11,848 --> 00:07:14,601 So it's the perfect way to approach a situation like this, 165 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:16,603 for a covert mission like this one, I guess? 166 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,647 PETER: The perfect way to surprise a fishing boat 167 00:07:18,647 --> 00:07:20,482 is to pretend that you are a fishing boat. 168 00:07:20,482 --> 00:07:21,483 MARIANA: Hmm. 169 00:07:24,361 --> 00:07:25,820 PETER: The plan tonight 170 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:28,281 is that we’ll be assisting the Liberian Coast Guard. 171 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,284 Kanbal III claims to be a shrimp trawler 172 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,912 but may be doing something very, very different. 173 00:07:33,912 --> 00:07:36,581 MARIANA: In 2017, 174 00:07:36,581 --> 00:07:39,959 the Kanbal III was approached by another joint patrol, 175 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:44,339 conducted by Senegalese fishing authorities and Greenpeace. 176 00:07:44,339 --> 00:07:47,217 For more than 20 minutes, Kanbal III's captain 177 00:07:47,217 --> 00:07:49,928 ignored radio requests to slow down 178 00:07:49,928 --> 00:07:51,221 and to allow inspection. 179 00:07:51,221 --> 00:07:53,348 (man shouting) 180 00:07:53,348 --> 00:07:56,267 MARIANA: Once the Senegalese authorities finally boarded, 181 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:58,061 they discovered Kanbal III's nets 182 00:07:58,061 --> 00:08:01,690 had been manipulated to create a smaller mesh size, 183 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:04,442 thereby capturing more fish. 184 00:08:04,442 --> 00:08:07,737 This is illegal in most of the world. 185 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:09,364 They also discovered that the crew 186 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:12,325 had attempted to undo their net modifications 187 00:08:12,325 --> 00:08:13,702 prior to inspection. 188 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:19,207 (man shouting) 189 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:22,335 MARIANA: How dangerous are these operations? 190 00:08:32,804 --> 00:08:34,639 WOMAN: What we are doing carries some risks. 191 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:38,184 But we have the Liberian Coast Guard with us. 192 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:42,605 We have a trained crew, and that’s what we are here for. 193 00:08:42,605 --> 00:08:45,442 (radio chatter) 194 00:08:45,442 --> 00:08:49,237 MARIANA: Being in a small boat on the open ocean at night 195 00:08:49,237 --> 00:08:51,698 is an unnerving experience. 196 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:54,200 It's cold, you can't see a thing, 197 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,538 and you’re surrounded on all sides by deep, dark water. 198 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:01,708 ♪ ♪ 199 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:03,418 It’s scary. 200 00:09:03,418 --> 00:09:06,004 You feel small and helpless. 201 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:08,673 ♪ ♪ 202 00:09:08,673 --> 00:09:11,051 As we get closer to the Kanbal III, 203 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:14,220 I’m struck by the danger of what we’re about to do. 204 00:09:15,847 --> 00:09:18,683 (man speaking foreign language) 205 00:09:18,683 --> 00:09:20,769 MARIANA: Not only are we attempting to board a ship 206 00:09:20,769 --> 00:09:23,146 in the open ocean at night, 207 00:09:23,146 --> 00:09:27,609 but we have no idea what or who we'll find on board. 208 00:09:30,236 --> 00:09:35,992 ♪ ♪ 209 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:41,581 ♪ ♪ 210 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:51,174 ♪ ♪ 211 00:09:51,174 --> 00:09:57,472 ♪ ♪ 212 00:09:57,472 --> 00:10:02,227 (officer shouting) 213 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:04,145 MARIANA: I'm with the crew of the Sea Shepherd 214 00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:05,980 and the Liberian Coast Guard 215 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:08,900 as they board a fishing trawler called the Kanbal III 216 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:11,778 that’s been exhibiting suspicious behavior. 217 00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:15,240 ♪ ♪ 218 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:23,039 MARIANA: Pedro. 219 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:25,416 So, the captain is actually Portuguese. 220 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:27,252 I just saw his passport right here. 221 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:20,096 MARIANA: Certa. 222 00:11:36,988 --> 00:11:38,031 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. 223 00:11:42,243 --> 00:11:44,287 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. 224 00:11:44,287 --> 00:11:47,081 He seems uncomfortable with my questions, 225 00:11:47,081 --> 00:11:49,167 which makes me even more curious 226 00:11:49,167 --> 00:11:51,211 about what might be found on the boat. 227 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:13,900 MARIANA: Okay. 228 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:16,027 We go over the ship’s documents, 229 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:17,403 and it looks like their license 230 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:20,531 allows them to trawl for shrimp and crab. 231 00:12:20,531 --> 00:12:22,951 But the Liberian Coast Guard needs to see proof 232 00:12:22,951 --> 00:12:25,703 that they’re fishing by the rules. 233 00:12:25,703 --> 00:12:29,040 So they ask the captain to reel in the nets. 234 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:36,172 Oh, wow. So you can see the fish starting to come in. 235 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:39,050 They’re opening up the nets? 236 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:40,093 Oh, wow. 237 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:44,889 ♪ ♪ 238 00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:49,102 ♪ ♪ 239 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:51,354 Okay, and this is essentially what they have 240 00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:53,481 the actual license to be fishing right now, 241 00:12:53,481 --> 00:12:54,691 is the shrimp. 242 00:12:54,691 --> 00:12:57,694 I mean, I grew up eating this, you know, 243 00:12:57,694 --> 00:12:59,070 this is called lagostim in Portugal. 244 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:00,989 I grew up eating this kind of shrimp. 245 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:03,574 PETER: Here the shrimp is maybe not even 1/10 246 00:13:03,574 --> 00:13:04,909 of what the catch is, right? 247 00:13:04,909 --> 00:13:07,704 And that's pretty typical of a shrimp fishery, 248 00:13:07,704 --> 00:13:10,915 this enormous amount of bycatch. 249 00:13:10,915 --> 00:13:12,959 MARIANA: Bycatch refers to the fish 250 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:16,587 or other marine species that are caught unintentionally 251 00:13:16,587 --> 00:13:19,340 while fishing for a specific target. 252 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:22,927 In this case, shrimp. 253 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:24,679 To me, you know, looking at some of these 254 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,181 and knowing that each of these shrimp in Portugal 255 00:13:27,181 --> 00:13:28,224 on a plate at a restaurant, 256 00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:30,768 they can sell for about 20 euros each, 257 00:13:30,768 --> 00:13:33,313 and you can see the amount of money that can be made, 258 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:35,565 not by these guys, but by the big bosses, right? 259 00:13:35,565 --> 00:13:38,818 The people that are actually making the money from, you know, 260 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:41,112 thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars 261 00:13:41,112 --> 00:13:43,781 that we’re seeing worth of shrimp on this boat. 262 00:13:43,781 --> 00:13:47,326 PETER: And here these guys are making $150 a month. 263 00:13:47,326 --> 00:13:51,789 This is not‐‐like, the economics of this does not trickle down. 264 00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:54,042 MARIANA: It's an ugly reality, 265 00:13:54,042 --> 00:13:57,295 but still no sign of illegal activity. 266 00:13:57,295 --> 00:14:00,006 So, I make my way down to the cargo hold, 267 00:14:00,006 --> 00:14:03,051 where the catch is frozen and kept. 268 00:14:03,051 --> 00:14:06,929 So, it says cangrejos, crab; gamba, shrimp; 269 00:14:06,929 --> 00:14:11,142 and, uh, captured in the Atlantic, so very, very vague. 270 00:14:11,142 --> 00:14:13,352 And then heading towards Vigo, España, 271 00:14:13,352 --> 00:14:14,729 and it says the importer... 272 00:14:14,729 --> 00:14:15,772 yeah, which is a Spanish name. 273 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:17,106 Have you heard of this company? 274 00:14:17,106 --> 00:14:19,484 WOMAN: Yeah, yeah. We've heard of them before. 275 00:14:19,484 --> 00:14:24,739 Based in Vigo, which is a city in Galicia, a region of Spain. 276 00:14:24,739 --> 00:14:27,450 PETER: You could tell the captain was a bit evasive. 277 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:29,952 He didn't want to say that the real ownership of the vessel 278 00:14:29,952 --> 00:14:31,204 is in Spain. 279 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:33,873 There's Spanish language documents on the bridge, 280 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:36,417 there's documentation on the cartons of fish 281 00:14:36,417 --> 00:14:38,961 that everything’s being exported to Spain. 282 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:40,797 To Vigo, Spain, which is Galicia, 283 00:14:40,797 --> 00:14:44,467 which is really the heart of fishing in Spain, in particular. 284 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:47,345 MARIANA: And yet, despite Peter's suspicions, 285 00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:50,223 there's no evidence of illegal activity. 286 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:55,061 PETER: Today the Liberian Coast Guard has to let this ship go. 287 00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:57,230 MARIANA: So the nets of the Kanbal III 288 00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:59,690 will soon be back in the water. 289 00:14:59,690 --> 00:15:02,527 ♪ ♪ 290 00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:05,404 I spent almost a week on the Sea Shepherd 291 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:09,033 and learned one of the great ironies of the fishing world‐‐ 292 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:12,870 that despite the fact that almost 20% of our seafood 293 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:14,831 comes from the black market, 294 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:19,085 it’s nearly impossible to catch anyone red‐handed. 295 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:20,711 But I’m not giving up. 296 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:22,713 I'm determined to find my way 297 00:15:22,713 --> 00:15:25,633 inside this world of illegal fishing. 298 00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:36,435 PAUL WOODS: Yeah, this is the global footprint of fishing, 299 00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:38,020 mostly industrial fishing. 300 00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:39,522 MARIANA: That's all the green that I'm seeing right here, 301 00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:40,523 all these little green squares? 302 00:15:40,523 --> 00:15:41,607 PAUL: Yeah, each one of these 303 00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:42,692 is an area where vessels are fishing. 304 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:43,860 MARIANA: Uh‐huh. 305 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,237 PAUL: There’s 50,000 vessels out there. 306 00:15:46,237 --> 00:15:47,363 MARIANA: 50,000? PAUL: Doing, yeah. 307 00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:48,364 MARIANA: Industrial, commercial? 308 00:15:48,364 --> 00:15:49,448 PAUL: Yeah, just the big ones. 309 00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:50,741 MARIANA: 50,000? 310 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:53,119 PAUL: Yeah, right. 50,000 vessels around the world. 311 00:15:53,119 --> 00:15:57,039 MARIANA: Perhaps as much as 20% of seafood brought into the U. S. 312 00:15:57,039 --> 00:15:59,083 comes from the black market. 313 00:15:59,083 --> 00:16:02,670 Yet, I’m still searching for a way inside. 314 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:06,132 I’m hoping Paul Woods can point me in the right direction. 315 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,718 He's the co‐founder of Global Fishing Watch, 316 00:16:08,718 --> 00:16:12,346 a non‐profit that uses state‐of‐the‐art data analysis 317 00:16:12,346 --> 00:16:15,474 to monitor fishing vessels around the world. 318 00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:19,103 So if you are doing illegal activities out at sea, 319 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:21,564 what are the chances you'll actually be caught, in general? 320 00:16:21,564 --> 00:16:23,566 PAUL: In well‐regulated countries, 321 00:16:23,566 --> 00:16:24,984 there’s a good chance you’ll get caught. 322 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:28,196 This is clear because the U. S. is good at managing. 323 00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:30,281 In Hawaii there’s lots of fish out here, 324 00:16:30,281 --> 00:16:33,034 but they, uh, the, you know, the U. S. Navy keeps them out. 325 00:16:33,034 --> 00:16:35,369 Whereas, uh, in Africa, in West Africa, 326 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,956 all the foreign fleets, Spain and China, Korea, Japan, 327 00:16:38,956 --> 00:16:41,000 and the United States, you know, 328 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,210 they all just fish in there, 329 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:44,045 and they're not, they don't keep them out, 330 00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:45,421 because they’re not good at keeping them out. 331 00:16:45,421 --> 00:16:48,758 We've had issues where we've seen vessels on the map 332 00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:50,551 doing something we know is illegal, 333 00:16:50,551 --> 00:16:53,512 we report it to the authorities, and we tell them, 334 00:16:53,512 --> 00:16:55,473 "This vessel is fishing in your waters, 335 00:16:55,473 --> 00:16:58,392 it’s not on your registry list, it's clearly illegal," 336 00:16:58,392 --> 00:16:59,852 and then we find out 337 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:02,688 that they were retroactively granted a license to fish. 338 00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:04,440 So this happens routinely. 339 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,150 MARIANA: Hmm. And why do you think that is? 340 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:09,195 PAUL: Uh, well, because there's, there's money to be made 341 00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:12,823 in, uh, fishing and, uh, licensing fishing. 342 00:17:12,823 --> 00:17:15,576 You know, and that is, you know, more powerful 343 00:17:15,576 --> 00:17:19,455 than the need to keep the fishery sustainable. 344 00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:21,499 MARIANA: How frustrating is it for you? 345 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:23,918 PAUL: Uh, it’s, it’s pretty frustrating. 346 00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:29,090 What you need is for the fishers to know 347 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,676 that eventually, even if they're not caught in the act, 348 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:34,845 they’re going to, you know, face consequences 349 00:17:34,845 --> 00:17:37,265 for breaking the rules. 350 00:17:37,265 --> 00:17:40,226 MARIANA: But right now, that’s not happening. 351 00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:42,103 In fact, the criminals are using 352 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:46,232 the globalized nature of the industry to their advantage. 353 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:47,775 PAUL: The vessel fishes in one country, 354 00:17:47,775 --> 00:17:49,610 it lands the catch in another country, 355 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:50,945 it's flagged in a third country, 356 00:17:50,945 --> 00:17:52,446 and it’s owned by someone in a fourth country, 357 00:17:52,446 --> 00:17:53,990 and that’s where all the money goes. 358 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:56,242 So how can you even police it? 359 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:59,912 There's four countries involved that all have to cooperate 360 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:04,250 in order to actually create consequences for that owner 361 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,877 for their illegal actions that happen on the water. 362 00:18:06,877 --> 00:18:09,338 MARIANA: That's why some shipowners take advantage 363 00:18:09,338 --> 00:18:12,091 of what's called "flags of convenience." 364 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:14,343 They register their vessel in a foreign country 365 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:16,137 with limited oversight, 366 00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:19,181 often as a way to skirt regulations at home 367 00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:21,309 or avoid detection abroad. 368 00:18:21,309 --> 00:18:24,395 PAUL: It’s a global supply chain. 369 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:26,063 Everything gets mingled and flows around. 370 00:18:26,063 --> 00:18:29,358 So once, once it comes off the boat and goes into that, 371 00:18:29,358 --> 00:18:31,277 it’s really hard to trace. 372 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:37,325 ♪ ♪ 373 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:40,036 ♪ ♪ 374 00:18:40,036 --> 00:18:41,996 MARIANA: The shrimp I saw on the Kanbal III 375 00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:44,206 is bound for Vigo, Spain, 376 00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:47,168 home to the largest fishing port in Europe. 377 00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:53,716 Every year, more than 700,000 tons of catch 378 00:18:53,716 --> 00:18:55,551 are offloaded here. 379 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:58,638 The fish are sorted, sold and distributed 380 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:02,391 to countries around the globe, including the U. S. 381 00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:04,435 It’s a massive operation. 382 00:19:04,435 --> 00:19:11,067 High‐tech, spotlessly clean, rigorously controlled. 383 00:19:11,067 --> 00:19:15,071 Every crate of fish is weighed, catalogued, and barcoded, 384 00:19:15,071 --> 00:19:18,783 so buyers know exactly when and where it was caught. 385 00:19:18,783 --> 00:19:21,786 (speaking Spanish) 386 00:19:21,786 --> 00:19:25,373 MARIANA: That’s the theory, anyway. 387 00:19:25,373 --> 00:19:29,627 In reality, any one of the hundreds of species on sale here 388 00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:31,295 could have been transferred at sea 389 00:19:31,295 --> 00:19:33,422 from an illegal fishing vessel 390 00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:35,299 to a vessel carrying the paperwork 391 00:19:35,299 --> 00:19:37,968 to make its cargo look legitimate. 392 00:19:37,968 --> 00:19:41,097 (speaking Spanish) 393 00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:43,182 MARIANA: Once the contraband fish has been mixed 394 00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:45,851 with a legal catch in a ship's freezers, 395 00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:49,021 it’s impossible to tell them apart. 396 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:52,024 It's one common way that illegal seafood 397 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:56,195 gets laundered into the legal supply chain. 398 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,864 But I haven’t come to Spain for the fish. 399 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:02,284 I’ve come for the fishermen. 400 00:20:02,284 --> 00:20:08,207 The ones that have given Galicia its rather notorious reputation. 401 00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:12,253 PETER: Galicia has always been a smuggling portal for Europe. 402 00:20:12,253 --> 00:20:14,839 They've been involved in trafficking not just of fish, 403 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:17,216 but of drugs and tobacco 404 00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:19,760 and other illicit products as well. 405 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,221 The companies behind vessels involved in the poaching 406 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,765 of Patagonian and Antarctic toothfish, 407 00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:27,977 they’re known as the Galician Mafia. 408 00:20:27,977 --> 00:20:29,270 MARIANA: I want to find someone 409 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,981 who's worked on these illegal vessels 410 00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:37,194 and knows the secrets of this dirty trade firsthand. 411 00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:40,781 After asking around a bit, I meet a retired fisherman 412 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:43,826 who says he’ll give it to me straight. 413 00:20:57,423 --> 00:21:00,509 ♪ ♪ 414 00:21:18,235 --> 00:21:20,738 MARIANA: Perico is a retired fisherman. 415 00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:24,658 He says he spent 35 years working on Spanish vessels 416 00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:26,952 in the frigid North Atlantic. 417 00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:29,330 Perico tells me that his career at sea 418 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:32,333 was marked by constant illegal activity. 419 00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:45,471 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. 420 00:22:31,308 --> 00:22:32,768 MARIANA: But when I press Perico 421 00:22:32,768 --> 00:22:36,689 for the names of the worst offenders, he clams up. 422 00:22:44,405 --> 00:22:45,406 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. 423 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,660 MARIANA: And there’s the rub. 424 00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:54,123 Spanish fishing is, at its heart, a family business. 425 00:22:54,123 --> 00:23:00,880 A very big family business that keeps its secrets close. 426 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,757 But then, a new lead. 427 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:06,093 Remember the Bandit 6? 428 00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:09,179 One of which the Sea Shepherd chased for 110 days 429 00:23:09,179 --> 00:23:12,474 before the captain purposely sank his boat? 430 00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:16,103 Well, I was able to connect with a local journalist 431 00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:19,273 who has access to a treasure trove of documents 432 00:23:19,273 --> 00:23:21,984 relating to the investigation of those vessels 433 00:23:21,984 --> 00:23:24,486 and the ensuing court case. 434 00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,155 If I want to find a source 435 00:23:26,155 --> 00:23:28,407 deeper in this illegal fishing world, 436 00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:31,118 this could be my chance. 437 00:23:31,118 --> 00:23:34,330 How does the fact that we're talking about these, 438 00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:35,915 you know, very wealthy companies 439 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:38,959 with fleets of boats and fancy websites 440 00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:41,921 and a lot of lawyers, how does that complicate matters for you 441 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:45,090 in terms of being a journalist and investigating this? 442 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:47,927 MAN: I have to be careful, and, uh... 443 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:52,222 MARIANA: Can you tell me a little bit 444 00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:54,099 about what all these documents are? 445 00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,602 MAN: Those documents are the outcome 446 00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:59,647 of the, probably the best investigation 447 00:23:59,647 --> 00:24:01,023 on illegal fishing. 448 00:24:01,023 --> 00:24:02,650 8,000 pages. 449 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:03,859 MARIANA: 8,000 pages? 450 00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:05,402 MAN: 8,000 pages. 451 00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:08,447 The investigation was led by Interpol, 452 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:11,825 together with the Spanish Guardia Civil, 453 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:13,077 on the Bandit 6. 454 00:24:13,077 --> 00:24:14,411 MARIANA: I mean, they were caught red‐handed. 455 00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:15,996 There's plenty of evidence that they were, 456 00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:18,082 what they were doing was illegal, right? 457 00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:21,752 MAN: Everything is proved here, in all the documents, 458 00:24:21,752 --> 00:24:25,839 that those Bandit 6 were committing crimes. 459 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,592 MARIANA: Incredibly, the Spanish Supreme Court 460 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:32,638 overturned the case against the shipowners of the Bandit 6. 461 00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:33,973 They decided that, 462 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:36,684 while the Bandit 6 did commit illegal activity, 463 00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:39,061 the courts did not have jurisdiction, 464 00:24:39,061 --> 00:24:41,480 because those illegal acts occurred 465 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,608 in international waters. 466 00:24:44,608 --> 00:24:46,860 MAN: Here, we have all the coordinators 467 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:49,822 of the fishing activities from Galicia. 468 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:51,657 MARIANA: Wow. So, these are the names and contacts? 469 00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:52,950 MAN: Yeah. MARIANA: All the coordinators? 470 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:54,118 MAN: That’s it. That's it. 471 00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:55,494 MARIANA: Wow, this is great. 472 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,079 MAN: And in this all documents, 473 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,623 you have all the phone numbers and some emails of those guys. 474 00:24:59,623 --> 00:25:01,083 So you can try. 475 00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:03,252 MARIANA: So they’ve all actually been indicted, these? 476 00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:07,089 MAN: Yeah. We have the name of some offshore companies 477 00:25:07,089 --> 00:25:10,676 used by those guys of the Bandit 6. 478 00:25:10,676 --> 00:25:12,678 MARIANA: There’s evidence of money laundering in this one. 479 00:25:12,678 --> 00:25:14,304 MAN: Yeah, no doubt about it. 480 00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:15,931 MARIANA: And here you have the whole list 481 00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:18,475 of the crewmen from this boat. 482 00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:22,438 You have the captain, the chief engineer, the cook, 483 00:25:22,438 --> 00:25:24,314 and then all the officers. 484 00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:26,734 There’s phone numbers for this one, too. 485 00:25:26,734 --> 00:25:32,406 Passport numbers, lots of photos, bank accounts. 486 00:25:32,406 --> 00:25:34,533 There’s just so much here. 487 00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:37,286 You see that the chief engineer and the officer and the captain 488 00:25:37,286 --> 00:25:39,413 are all Spanish. 489 00:25:39,413 --> 00:25:42,332 And there are Spanish numbers associated with them. 490 00:25:42,332 --> 00:25:43,959 This is big‐‐ 491 00:25:43,959 --> 00:25:45,961 lists of names and numbers 492 00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:49,173 of people directly involved in the Bandit 6 493 00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:54,178 and who might know what illegal activities are still ongoing. 494 00:25:54,178 --> 00:25:56,263 (phone ringing) 495 00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:14,114 (beep beep beep) 496 00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:15,699 MARIANA: Calling another person 497 00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:18,327 that we know worked one of the Bandit 6 boats. 498 00:26:30,047 --> 00:26:31,465 (beep beep beep) 499 00:26:31,465 --> 00:26:32,341 MARIANA: He hung up. 500 00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:40,307 MARIANA: Okay. 501 00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,559 MAN: No, no, no, no, no. No, no. 502 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:43,685 (ringing) 503 00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:44,895 MARIANA: Pick up, pick up, pick up. 504 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:51,902 MARIANA: Two and half hours now, 505 00:26:51,902 --> 00:26:53,612 we’ve been making call after call. 506 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:54,613 (ringing) 507 00:27:20,556 --> 00:27:21,765 ¿Hola? 508 00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:40,868 MARIANA: So, today, this afternoon, here in Vigo. 509 00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:41,743 Great. 510 00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:47,374 I finally secured a face‐to‐face meeting 511 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:51,169 with a former crew member from a Bandit 6 fishing boat. 512 00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:55,007 He’s texted me a location on the outskirts of the city. 513 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,387 I think this is it. 514 00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:02,097 Okay, here we are. 515 00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:04,808 ♪ ♪ 516 00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:06,268 I think it’s here. 517 00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:12,566 ♪ ♪ 518 00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:18,822 ♪ ♪ 519 00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:25,078 ♪ ♪ 520 00:28:25,078 --> 00:28:30,292 ♪ ♪ 521 00:28:30,292 --> 00:28:31,752 ¿Hola? 522 00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:34,338 ♪ ♪ 523 00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:35,464 ¿Hola? 524 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:39,051 ♪ ♪ 525 00:28:43,305 --> 00:28:46,183 ♪ ♪ 526 00:29:06,912 --> 00:29:08,372 MARIANA: The man I'm talking to‐‐ 527 00:29:08,372 --> 00:29:10,082 we’ll call him Luis‐‐ 528 00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:13,001 spent time working on one of the Bandit 6 boats, 529 00:29:13,001 --> 00:29:15,587 as well as dozens of other Spanish vessels 530 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,172 throughout his career. 531 00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,801 He's my key to understanding how illegal fishing works 532 00:29:20,801 --> 00:29:22,803 at an international level. 533 00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:13,854 MARIANA: Wow. 534 00:30:19,443 --> 00:30:22,404 MARIANA: We have no knowledge that any of the ships we boarded 535 00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:25,824 had double bottoms or illegal nets. 536 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:28,785 But it sounds like that was standard operating procedure 537 00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:31,913 on the Spanish ships that Luis worked on. 538 00:30:31,913 --> 00:30:35,917 And that wasn’t the only way they skirted regulations. 539 00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:39,648 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. 540 00:32:13,682 --> 00:32:14,766 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. 541 00:32:17,811 --> 00:32:20,689 Luis explains that within the fishing industry, 542 00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:24,109 it’s the shipowners who have the power to make change. 543 00:32:24,109 --> 00:32:25,861 But those are the same folks 544 00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:28,905 who are profiting the most off the status quo. 545 00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:58,768 MARIANA: He’s right. 546 00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:00,437 The real issue is not the need 547 00:33:00,437 --> 00:33:03,857 for more regulations or enforcement. 548 00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:08,695 It’s our relationship to the oceans themselves. 549 00:33:08,695 --> 00:33:12,657 I've been so focused on trying to understand the black market‐‐ 550 00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,034 boat owners exploiting 551 00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:16,786 a disorganized international system, 552 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:19,164 fishermen using altered nets, 553 00:33:19,164 --> 00:33:22,292 captains turning off AIS trackers‐‐ 554 00:33:22,292 --> 00:33:24,711 that I’ve overlooked the obvious. 555 00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:30,050 A bigger, more devastating truth about industrial fishing. 556 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:34,846 SYLVIA EARLE: The impact of illegal fishing is enormous, 557 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:38,433 but it is relatively small 558 00:33:38,433 --> 00:33:43,855 compared to the impact of legal fishing. 559 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:46,149 MARIANA: Sylvia Earle is an oceanographer 560 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:48,401 and the founder of Mission Blue, 561 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:52,155 a non‐profit dedicated to protecting our oceans. 562 00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:55,033 She doesn't mince words when it comes to her opinions 563 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:57,327 about the global fishing industry. 564 00:33:57,327 --> 00:34:03,291 SYLVIA: This is the biggest wildlife trade on the planet. 565 00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,086 We’re waging war on the ocean. 566 00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:08,880 And we're doing it with a big smile on our face, 567 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,551 thinking, "This is great. We have technologies now 568 00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,637 that can go to places we couldn't go before, 569 00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:18,974 finding fish that were not accessible before." 570 00:34:21,142 --> 00:34:24,020 MARIANA: Her words echo so much of what I've seen 571 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:26,189 over the last few months. 572 00:34:26,189 --> 00:34:28,358 PETER: Shrimp is maybe not even 1/10 573 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:29,734 of what the catch is, right? 574 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:32,404 And that's pretty typical of a shrimp fishery, 575 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:35,282 this enormous amount of bycatch. 576 00:34:35,282 --> 00:34:36,658 I, I always refer to bycatch 577 00:34:36,658 --> 00:34:39,703 as the invisible victims of industrial fishing. 578 00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:43,456 MARIANA: The invisible victims of industrial fishing. 579 00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:45,959 In other words, a waste of animal life 580 00:34:45,959 --> 00:34:49,546 like I’ve never seen before. 581 00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:53,675 It's difficult to watch and even harder to fathom 582 00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:58,179 that it's all legal, happening every day and night 583 00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:00,890 on trawlers around the globe. 584 00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:02,309 NEWS ANCHOR: The stocks of tropical tuna 585 00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:04,936 in the Indian Ocean have been overfished. 586 00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:07,022 NEWS ANCHOR: Human exploitation of the world's oceans 587 00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:08,565 is passing the point of no return. 588 00:35:08,565 --> 00:35:09,899 ANNOUNCER: Endless Shrimp. 589 00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:11,359 It's as much as you like, any way you like. 590 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:13,028 NEWS ANCHOR: A huge wealth of creatures and habitats 591 00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:16,072 are under threat, decimated by overfishing. 592 00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:18,408 ANNOUNCER: Our awesome, mouthwatering snow crab dinner, 593 00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:19,409 for only $9.99. 594 00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:20,827 ANNOUNCER: Have it all this summer 595 00:35:20,827 --> 00:35:22,287 with the Crab Daddy Feast. 596 00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:41,264 PAUL: Industrial and commercial fishing is scaled up so much 597 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:45,185 that it really is a lot more like mining than fishing. 598 00:35:45,185 --> 00:35:46,895 These nets are enormous. 599 00:35:46,895 --> 00:35:48,521 And they just take everything. 600 00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:53,902 All the fish within a kilometer out of the water all at once. 601 00:35:53,902 --> 00:35:59,741 You’re literally mining the ocean of fish, of all life. 602 00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:02,410 SYLVIA: We have the capacity to deplete wildlife 603 00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:08,249 on a scale that is unprecedented. 604 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:11,503 Technology is available to almost everyone everywhere 605 00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:15,423 to find, capture, consume, or market ocean wildlife 606 00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:17,217 on a scale that is simply, 607 00:36:17,217 --> 00:36:20,053 no matter how you want to measure it, 608 00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,348 it’s not sustainable. 609 00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:26,434 MARIANA: It’s this future that has me worried. 610 00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,312 But even today, there are plenty of warning signs 611 00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:31,272 if you know where to look. 612 00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:34,776 The experts I spoke with pointed me to the coast of Ghana, 613 00:36:34,776 --> 00:36:37,487 where a local fishing community has been transformed 614 00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:40,323 in ways I’m told I won’t believe. 615 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:42,367 ♪ ♪ 616 00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:43,326 (beep) (woman shouts) 617 00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:57,590 ♪ ♪ 618 00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:59,259 ♪ ♪ 619 00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:00,927 MARIANA: We got a call late last night 620 00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:03,638 saying to be at the port at 5 a. m. this morning 621 00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:07,934 because they had something that they wanted to show us. 622 00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:09,477 Um... 623 00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:13,356 we're still not sure what we'll be able to film or see, 624 00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:17,026 but all we know is that we're meeting this person 625 00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:19,988 in about five minutes. 626 00:37:19,988 --> 00:37:23,700 The call came from a local fisherman turned crime boss 627 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,828 who's known simply as the Chairman. 628 00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:29,414 I was introduced to him by a contact of mine, 629 00:37:29,414 --> 00:37:32,625 but the Chairman has been difficult to pin down. 630 00:37:35,462 --> 00:37:39,382 I see a couple of boats with lights here. 631 00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:41,468 People working inside. Let's check. 632 00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:42,761 (unbuckles seatbelt) 633 00:37:47,348 --> 00:37:48,224 (car door slams) 634 00:37:51,019 --> 00:37:57,317 ♪ ♪ 635 00:37:57,317 --> 00:38:01,362 ♪ ♪ 636 00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:02,781 Over here? 637 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:03,907 ♪ ♪ 638 00:38:03,907 --> 00:38:04,908 (man talking) 639 00:38:04,908 --> 00:38:06,534 MARIANA: Is this it? 640 00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:08,453 (man talking) 641 00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:11,790 MARIANA: I guess this is it. 642 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,208 Yeah, come in? 643 00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:20,507 Looks like that’s the Chairman on the phone. 644 00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:22,383 His name is Justice. 645 00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:27,806 MARIANA: Yeah, very fast. We're very fast. 646 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,432 Okay, we have to go, guys! 647 00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:33,061 ♪ ♪ 648 00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:34,771 We pass by one fishing boat 649 00:38:34,771 --> 00:38:39,359 that strangely doesn’t have any fishing gear. 650 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:42,195 They are clearly unhappy about our cameras. 651 00:38:42,195 --> 00:38:46,991 ♪ ♪ 652 00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,828 ♪ ♪ 653 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:53,581 This is one of the boats that came out from sea today? 654 00:38:53,581 --> 00:38:55,166 Can we stop there and talk to them? 655 00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:58,837 It’s another fishing boat, again with no fishing gear. 656 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:08,555 ♪ ♪ 657 00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:11,057 MARIANA: Oh, wow. 658 00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:12,225 Look at that. 659 00:39:12,225 --> 00:39:17,313 It’s all big blocks of frozen fish. 660 00:39:17,313 --> 00:39:19,899 So the whole boat is fill, is all full of that? 661 00:39:19,899 --> 00:39:22,318 CHAIRMAN: Yes. 662 00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:25,029 MARIANA: These Ghanaians used to fish for themselves, 663 00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:27,031 but an influx of foreign trawlers 664 00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:29,576 has caused fish stocks to plummet. 665 00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:33,037 So, now, in a perverse twist of their livelihood, 666 00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:36,749 these fishermen go out to sea and buy blocks of fish 667 00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:40,879 that have been caught and frozen by the trawlers themselves. 668 00:39:41,963 --> 00:39:42,964 This came out from the sea? 669 00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:44,173 CHAIRMAN: Yeah. 670 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:45,466 MARIANA: From the trawlers? CHAIRMAN: Yeah. 671 00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:48,094 MARIANA: Yeah. 672 00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:49,554 So they would throw it away, and instead... 673 00:39:49,554 --> 00:39:50,805 CHAIRMAN: Yeah. 674 00:39:50,805 --> 00:39:52,098 MARIANA: ...the fishermen go out and pick it. 675 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:53,349 CHAIRMAN: Yeah. 676 00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:55,602 MARIANA: How far are the Chinese vessels? 677 00:39:55,602 --> 00:39:56,644 CHAIRMAN: 12 hours. 678 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,813 MARIANA: 12 hours to get there? 679 00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:02,984 Through forces beyond his control, 680 00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:06,362 the Chairman has been dragged into an illegal seafood trade 681 00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:08,615 known as Saiko. 682 00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:12,744 You have been working as a fisherman 683 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:14,495 for a very long time. 684 00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:16,039 MARIANA: You’re originally an artisanal fisher. 685 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,165 CHAIRMAN: Yeah, yeah. 686 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:19,626 MARIANA: And so, since this is illegal, 687 00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:21,669 why did you agree to talk to us? 688 00:40:21,669 --> 00:40:22,545 CHAIRMAN: Well... 689 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:28,092 MARIANA: It’s not. 690 00:40:29,802 --> 00:40:30,970 MARIANA: Right, that it helps a lot of people. 691 00:40:30,970 --> 00:40:32,013 CHAIRMAN: Yeah. 692 00:40:32,013 --> 00:40:33,348 MARIANA: So, what do you say to people 693 00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:35,642 who say what the trawlers are doing 694 00:40:35,642 --> 00:40:37,185 is that they are destroying the oceans, 695 00:40:37,185 --> 00:40:39,020 they're killing all this fish, 696 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,396 and you are contributing to that 697 00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:42,565 because you are buying this bycatch? 698 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:47,153 MARIANA: Right. 699 00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,285 MARIANA: Right. 700 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:02,585 MARIANA: The reality is even more depressing. 701 00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:06,172 What started out as foreign trawlers selling their bycatch 702 00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:09,676 has become so established and so profitable 703 00:41:09,676 --> 00:41:11,302 that many foreign ships 704 00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:15,098 are now purposely targeting local fish, which, of course, 705 00:41:15,098 --> 00:41:19,435 has only made the overfishing problem worse. 706 00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:23,856 This is the trickle‐down effect of our global fishing industry‐‐ 707 00:41:23,856 --> 00:41:28,027 a local population so powerless to stop the overfishing 708 00:41:28,027 --> 00:41:31,823 that it’s now been forced to embrace a black market. 709 00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:34,659 (crowd murmur) 710 00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:35,827 Oh, wow. So, this is all the... 711 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:36,869 CHAIRMAN: Yes. Yeah. 712 00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:38,079 This is the Saiko fish. 713 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,455 MARIANA: Another one there. 714 00:41:39,455 --> 00:41:42,709 Make no mistake about what you’re looking at here. 715 00:41:42,709 --> 00:41:47,588 This is a fishing town that now survives on frozen fish. 716 00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:49,173 I mean, it’s incredible. 717 00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,884 You look around, and all of it is basically Saiko. 718 00:41:51,884 --> 00:41:56,681 ♪ ♪ 719 00:41:56,681 --> 00:42:00,268 ♪ ♪ 720 00:42:00,268 --> 00:42:02,061 You can see, it's just boat after boat, 721 00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:03,730 and all of them are filled with fish, 722 00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:07,942 and they’re bringing all the fish now to shore. 723 00:42:07,942 --> 00:42:11,779 They cover it with blankets to keep it cold, to keep it frozen. 724 00:42:11,779 --> 00:42:13,531 Oh, wow! Look at that! 725 00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:14,991 Holy (bleep). 726 00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:18,578 That is insane! 727 00:42:18,578 --> 00:42:21,372 So much. 728 00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:23,082 So you can see how big this boat is. 729 00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:24,584 CHAIRMAN: Yeah, yeah. 730 00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:27,503 MARIANA: And then every single one of these, basically, holds, 731 00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,673 is filled, filled, filled with frozen fish. 732 00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:31,549 CHAIRMAN: Yes. 733 00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,365 MARIANA: Yeah, it’s out. It's open. 734 00:42:56,365 --> 00:43:01,829 ♪ ♪ 735 00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:03,790 PAUL: We can’t do this forever. 736 00:43:03,790 --> 00:43:07,752 There will come a point where we don’t have fish. 737 00:43:07,752 --> 00:43:09,378 And the people that will suffer 738 00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:11,339 are the people that go out to fish every day 739 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:13,633 to feed their families. 740 00:43:13,633 --> 00:43:15,760 But it won't be the owners of the companies 741 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,844 that took all the fish. 742 00:43:16,844 --> 00:43:18,846 They’ll just go do something else. 743 00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:33,027 MARIANA: I'm almost embarrassed to admit how blind I've been 744 00:43:33,027 --> 00:43:36,989 to the ugly truth about our global fishing industry. 745 00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,952 But I can’t unsee what I’ve seen on this journey. 746 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:44,205 The industry needs to change. 747 00:43:44,205 --> 00:43:46,040 We all do. 748 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,502 SYLVIA: Taking wild animals from the ocean 749 00:43:49,502 --> 00:43:53,464 and turning it into money or products... 750 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:56,425 there’s a cost. 751 00:43:56,425 --> 00:43:59,971 There’s a cost to everyone. 752 00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,597 It’s not free. 753 00:44:01,597 --> 00:44:06,644 ♪ ♪ 754 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:08,521 Captioned by Side Door Media Services 58367

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