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Varginha is
a Brazilian city

located in the southern region
of the state of Minas Gerais.

Varginha is considered
the seventh best city in Brazil
to live and invest

and became known
internationally in 1996

for the alleged appearance
of alien creatures,

the episode that became known
as the "Varginha Incident".

This following story
is based on truth and lies.

If true, call it
another Roswell, if you will.

That is, a crashed vehicle
that had beings
on board, apparently.

Can she say what feelings
she got from the creature?

The Varginha case
is considered

the most

well-kept secret

in the military circle
of Brazil.

We're in
Sao Paulo, Brazil,

about to go and investigate

the infamous
1996 Varginha UFO incident.

An alleged crash
and reported bodies.

So we're gonna go see...

Oh, okay. No problem.

I'm basically trying
to figure out what took place

in Varginha, Brazil,
January 1996.

Many people say there was
a UFO crash,

debris and bodies recovered.

My objective here in Brazil
is to find out,

put some clarity on,
what happened

and where this debris
ultimately ended up.

I wanna hear from her.

James Fox teams up
with Brazilian researcher
Marco Leal,

who has been investigating
the Varginha case since 2006.

Together they meet
Cynthia Covo in Sao Paulo,
to go over the case.

- So...
- Yeah.

This is the daughter
of one of the most famous

- UFO researchers
in all of Brazil.
- Yeah.

- And he is no longer with us.
- Yes.

So she has brought
some of his research,

illustrations, documentation

from the 1996 Varginha
UFO incident.

An unidentified flying object
reportedly crashes,

and then you have beings

associated with the craft,
alive and walking through
the town.

It sounds so spectacular,

it sounds so unbelievable,

it's hard to wrap your mind
around it.

And I didn't believe it
when I first heard about it.

This is the design.

The girls drew this
for her father.

- That's her father.
- Yeah.

They were in the fire...
fireman station.

So this is the fireman that...

They believe this fireman
was involved in the capture?

Oralina, Eurico.

And they saw a UFO
that looked like it was
definitely gonna crash?

Liliane and Valquiria.

- Right after they saw
the creature?
- Yes.

- Marco Cherese?
- Yeah.

- Who captured the creature
with his bare hands.
- Yes.

And later died.

This is an original artist's
rendition of what the girls saw.

Wow!

Wow, look at that.

Brazil is one of the most
amazing locations on Earth.

- I mean, you've got Ubatuba
in the '50s.
- Yeah.

You've got Colares,
Operacao Prato.

You've got 1986,
UFOs over Brazil
with Sao Paulo.

It was amazing. I met with
a radar operator.

And then you have this crash
in 1996 in Varginha.

These are some of the
best cases in the world.

1957.

Witnesses observe an object
descending at extreme speed

from the skies
towards Toninhas Beach.

Before hitting the water,
it explodes.

Fragments collected
on the beach are sent to a lab
to be analyzed.

This headline reads,

Scientific analysis confirms
extraterrestrial magnesium

from the alleged
Ubatuba flying saucer.

- Photographer
Almiro Barauna

and the crew aboard
a Brazilian navy vessel

- witness
a disc-shaped object

maneuvering over the ocean.

- He grabs his camera
and takes these shots.

Previously classified
Brazilian Air Force documents

contain accounts
of several UFOs

witnessed by both civilians
and military personnel.

Shown here
are several unknown craft

captured on camera
by the Brazilian Air Force.

Some officers even claimed
to see occupants.

1986.

- Over Sao Paulo,
six Brazilian fighter jets

chase more than a dozen UFOs.

The Ministry
of the Air Force confirms
this encounter

in a press conference.

- She got to meet
Carlos de Sousa?
- Yes.

- In 1996?
- Yeah.

- And he was the man
who saw the UFO crash.
- Yes.

Going back to 1996
and seeing the witnesses

and seeing the location
of the creatures,

seeing the
original illustration...

You know, the rendition
of what the creature

looked like from 1996
and holding it in my hands,

it was fascinating!

And the photograph
of the military man,
Marco Cherese,

who apparently handled
one of the creatures.

I mean, it just takes you
back in time to 1996.

And it was just a really,
really fortunate opportunity
for us.

I'm thrilled, and I can't wait
to get to Varginha,
to be honest with you.

You could just say
hypothetically, for a moment,
if it did happen,

how significant of an event
would it be?

I bet you that everyone
would say,

there's nothing more significant
than this story.

If it were true.

I just ask people
to suspend judgement,

listen to the testimony,
and then draw
your own conclusions.

Hey, we're just gonna
drop me off or something.

Get some drinks
while they go around the block,
or wait.

Upon arrival
in Varginha,

the filmmakers want
to hear from locals

regarding the alleged
1996 UFO crash.

A large monument in the shape
of a flying saucer

is a clear indication
that the town embraces
the story.

Armed with handmade signs
that read,

"If anyone knows what happened
in 1996, please talk to us."

The team takes to the streets.

What does he think
about the case?

- Does he think it happened
or it didn't happen?

What are your feelings
on Varginha?

The 1996 Varginha UFO incident,
what do you think?

Things are heating up
right now, guys.

Like, we're finding
some witnesses.

- These guys is really
important here.
- Okay, let's bring it.

They see a UFO.
The UFO gets closer to them,

to the point where
it's at the height
of that street light.

Okay, so then what happens?

So a lot of people in this town
have a little piece
of the puzzle.

We were only here
for an hour-and-a-half,

and I can't believe
how many people
we got to come forward.

What I love about this case
is it's recent enough

where people either
heard accounts or experienced
things themselves.

So, right now, we are going
to meet with

the mayor of Varginha.

So I'm very curious
if an elected official
will talk about

the details of the case
and whether he believes
it really happened.

These sorts of things.

- Look at this.
- Oh, that's nice.

- That's great.
- Yeah.

I'm extremely curious,

as an elected official,
the mayor of Varginha,

does he believe
that this case happened

as the witnesses
are reporting it
to have happened?

The witnesses in Varginha,
for me, are some of the most

compelling testimony
I've ever heard.

- So I didn't believe that

a UFO crashed
in Varginha, Brazil,
when I first came here.

But after 10 years...

I wouldn't have imagined
getting an interview with...

an elected official
like the mayor of Varginha.

If you would have told me
I'd be doing that ten years ago,
I wouldn't have believed it.

Not only that,
but he was, basically,

saying that he felt
that the Varginha case was true,
that it really happened.

I think we have to
remind ourselves how far
we've come in the last decade.

Put me on that farm
in January of 1996.

What happened?

1996.

Crash witness Carlos de Sousa

describes a similar object
in this exclusive interview.

January 13th, 1996.

Carlos de Sousa
is traveling from Sao Paulo

to Minas Gerais
early in the morning,

planning to meet with friends

to fly ultra-light planes.

Now, 26 years later,

the team travels with
Carlos de Sousa
to find the crash site.

Turn around. Right.

Careful of the dust.
He's trying to remember.

So where the trees were?

He doesn't... remember.

But he thinks it's this way.
Because it's been 26 years...

Is this looking familiar?
There's a house up there.

But if it's close to a house,
then it's gotta be
further down this way.

Unless the house is gone.

- I think the house is gone.
- You do?

- He's asking you to stop.
- Stop?

Right. Let's go.

- What does that mean?
- Yeah, like big grass.

It was around here.

Okay.

- He wants to go there.
- Okay.

- So it was a white house,
and it was a small house.
- Yeah, it was a small house.

- So...
- The grass was burned.

The grass was burned.
Why was the grass burned?

- So, is the house gone?
- It was around here.

The house is gone?

He doesn't know.
Everything's different.

I mean, it could be here,
or it could be there.

We walk over to there
and look.

If it's close to the road,
it only can be
in a couple of places.

Does he wanna walk up
closer to it.

He said the house was close
to where the crash was.

- Yeah.
- 200 meters.

- Yeah, it's like...
- 600 feet.

It's my only...
My only house.

Family. My only family.

Well, I say we...
I say we take a closer look.

- I mean...
- Yeah.

You know?

Yeah, we gotta do it, man.
We got to find this spot!

There's a lot of trees.

Is there a house down there?

Yeah, there's a house
right down to these trees.
Yeah.

Well, let's get closer
to there then.

Let's drive down the road.

Let's drive down to get closer.

There's a house.

This isn't a field.

Yes, yes!

Here. Here!

Wow!

Wow!

This is the spot.

Was this object big enough

to have, potentially,
beings inside?

According to
Mr. Sousa,

this area was covered
with debris from the UFO crash.

This is his first time
at the crash site since 1996.

So he gets out of the car.

He sees the piece, right?

He picks the piece up.

He folds it. He said
it was really light,

and it was shaped
kind of like this.

- Yeah.
- And then he picked it up
and he folded it

and then it opens itself up.

And it was really light.

- Yes.
- Like aluminum.

At what point did the military
come to him?

- Right after that happened?
- Yes.

The military came
from this way and arrived?

Yeah.

Carlos Sousa came from here
and the trucks came
from that side.

Okay.

Within minutes,
trucks from the military base,
ESA, arrive on the scene.

- Wah, wah? Go away?
- Yeah.

I think some guy...

What does "borra" mean?

- Go away! Go away!
Go away!
- Go away?

Go away! Go away!
And I'm ordering.

I'm ordering you?
I'm ordering you to go away?

- Yeah.
- So then he pulled his gun out?

- Yes.
- And he said I'm ordering you
to go away.

Wow!

After giving
this interview
shortly after the incident,

Carlos de Sousa
vanishes for 26 years.

- Mark it.

Can we just walk to
where exactly this
took place?

Seven days
after Sousa witnessed
the crash,

Hubert Ladera leaves this gym

when he and several friends
see two military trucks
driving into town.

They follow them
through the neighborhood

and come upon
a military blockade.

One of the people
in his group said,

this is a free country,
and I'm going through.

It was him.

- Oh, it was him?
- Yeah.

So he said,
hey, this is a free country.

I'll do what I want.

And then what happens?

This is the local
TV news station that covered
the case back in 1996.

He was deeply involved.

He was also good friends
with Marco Cherese,

who's the military
police officer who, allegedly,

handled the creature
and then died.

- Thank you.
- Yes, of course.

- Absolutely.

Describe what happened
back in 1996.

What you witnessed,
what you saw.

So is he saying
that the military
shut down the press?

- Yes.
- Successfully.

- Yes.
- They don't have a free press.

- And they say...
- They don't have a free press.

No. If they If they say,
if they would have go,
like, investigate further,

they probably would have
put them in jail.

Okay, I'll quickly mention.

So we have, uh,
we have special authorization

from the city of Varginha,

and we have a universal key

which is provided to us
by, I think, Katia's husband.

And so we're going to film
the use of the special key

to gain access
to the exact location
where the encounter occurred

back in January of 1996.

Action.

There we go.

- Did you see how easy that was?

I wanted to
film here

because this is obviously
going to invoke memories

of the encounter, and I think
that we're going to get
a more dramatic,

more real, um,
on camera testimony
from the girls,

doing it here
as opposed to somewhere else.

Media across Brazil
and the world

cover the story.

Tell us, walk us through
what happened.

What did you see?

Where did you see it?

1996,

based on the girl's testimony,

artist Betty Rodriguez,

creates this drawing.

What I find
makes their stories
so credible

is that there were
three of them.

I want to hear from Valquiria
because she was the youngest.

What were her thoughts
at the time?

Was she scared? Did you run?

Like, put me there.

These eyes
compared to my eyes,

how much bigger?

- Three times bigger.
- Three times bigger.

I want to walk over by the wall,

and I want you to tell me
where exactly the creature was.

- Wow!

Really close.

I didn't realize it's closer
than I expected,

I mean,
it's like eight-feet away.

They were eight-feet away
from this creature.
Broad daylight.

It was 3:30 in the afternoon.

This is the exact location.

When she made eye contact
with this creature,

was there a moment
of any kind of communication?

Did she feel anything at all?

Okay, so this is,
uh, Valquiria.

This is Katia.

- Sim.
- And this is Liliane.

You see the, the eyes.

They didn't draw a nose,
they didn't draw a mouth.

It was all about the eyes.

I want to understand,

uh, first of all,
the moment of contact
with the eye,

with the eyes, meeting the eyes.

I really want to be there.
I want to feel it.

When they locked eyes
with this being,
what were they thinking?

They all ran out of here
quickly,

so they were scared.

Were they scared
because they felt threatened,

or were they scared
because they just
simply didn't know

what they were looking at?

So the three girls
run to her house,

and they say,
"We saw this creature

that might have been the devil
or whatever it was."

And they, do they,
do they get in the car
and drive here?

Do they walk here?

How did they get here?
And what do they see
when they got here?

Can she draw the footprint?

The shape of the footprint?

- Yes. Sim, sim.

That's the exact location
where the girls saw the creature

right through that wall
where we filmed already
with the girls.

I didn't realize
that Marco Chereze,
the military officer,

who allegedly captured
the creature,

with his bare hands,
did it right over here.

Roughly three hours
after the girls witnessed

the strange creature,

Military police officers
Eddie Lopes

and Marco Chereze
drive down this road

on the lookout
for something unusual.

When suddenly,
it runs right across
their path.

It was captured by Marco Chereze

with his bare hands easily

and taken to the hospital.

After he captured the creature,

he was smelling the creature
in his body and his clothes.

Because he had
this strange feeling
of something greasy, sticky,

over his body
that came from the creature.

He developed this,
this infection

that wouldn't go away.

And for two or three weeks

it was getting worse and worse
and worse.

And it looks like
that his immunity system
was shut down.

This were the words
used by one of the doctors
who treated him,

who said that he never saw
in his whole medical career

anything like that.

And that infection killed him.

All the witnesses

that claim that Marco Chereze
handled a creature,

a strange creature,
doesn't have to be
from another world,

it was a strange creature,

he gets some unknown infection.

You did everything you could
to save him,

and he died.

Do you believe
that there's some credibility
to that story?

When her brother
falls ill,

she asks about his involvement
with the case.

On February 10th,

Marco Chereze is admitted
to regional hospital.

Roger, what's the main purpose
that you could to Varginha
for a new ecological research?

The main purpose for being here,

uh, is to look at
the physical evidence aspect
of this case,

uh, which is what
I specialize in.

It is June, the 7th 2002,

and I am here in Varginha,
Brazil,

with the chief investigator
on the Varginha episode,

Ubirajara Rodrigues.

2002,
renowned UFO researcher,
Dr. Roger Leir,

travels to Varginha
to investigate the case.

He documents
multiple key witnesses
on video.

This footage
has never been released.

She is the wife
of a deceased member
of the military police.

I think we should at least know
what her husband's name was.

Does she know
if anyone has seen
a medical report?

Oh, they took a long time
to deliver it,

and they asked for money,
and they,
and there were missing pages.

Once she lose,

she searched for explanations,
but nobody would give any.

Was Marco Chereze
the only person infected

who died?

We don't know.

Where, uh, these two creatures

the only ones that remain alive
after the crash?

We don't know.

We only have, uh,
very detailed information

about the existence
and the capture of these two.

One capture in the morning
and one at evening
of the same day,

January 20, 1996.

According to
credible reports,

there were two captures
on January 20th.

Hours before
the girls' encounter,

the fire brigade captured
a being.

This capture
was thoroughly investigated

by leading Brazilian researcher
and lawyer

Ubirajara Rodrigues.

This is
the fire department...

Dr. Leir teamed up
with Ubirajara.

They questioned
the fire battalion
allegedly involved

in the capture
of the first creature.

This is the creature.

And this is a, kind of,
equipment that is used
to catch it.

The fire department
was dispatched to this location

after receiving several calls
from concerned residents

who reported seeing
something strange in the area.

The Army truck
entered by this gate here.

Got in over here.

Got the creature
already dead from inside.

The presence
of several elements

from the military police,
from the Army...

- ...several doctors, nurses...

This convoy left the place
and went to Tres Coracoes.

Both creatures
left at the same time.

And the creature
that was alive
got to Campinas alive.

The team drives
to meet with a family

who saw a UFO
hovering over the area
of the encounter

and capture.

Okay, let me ask.

- Let me ask.
- Yeah.

How about we film
the back of their heads
talking to me?

Like, I don't know.

- Hey, Fernanda,
we have two options.
- Okay.

Okay. One, we blur his faces,
no problem,
and we will do that.

Two, we film from the backside
and their and their faces
aren't seen ever.

Like doctors, and they all saw
the UFO right over this area.

It looked like they were looking
for something, like it was doing
a grid search.

And this is
a very respectable family.

They don't want their faces
on camera.

They want to talk and tell
what they saw,

but they don't want their faces
revealed on camera,

which happens.

Okay, so we're standing

in very near the area
where the girls saw
the creature.

It was 1996, January.

This entire family
saw something
they want to share with us,

but they don't want to have
their faces revealed.

So what did they see?

Did I hear... I heard Americana.

- He stayed American.
- Yes.

What was that about?

Some American officials...

- Came here.
- ...came here to talk about
what they saw.

- Yes.
- Americans?

Were they military?
Were they police?

Who were they?

Is there any way
that there is
a conventional explanation

to what they saw?

I just want to go over

that interview and what I find.

First of all, they hesitated
on whether or not they
even wanted to go on camera.

They canceled yesterday.

Today they were like,
"Hmm. We don't want...

Oh, sorry...

"We don't want our faces
on camera."

It was like an entire family,
and they all saw this object
and it was really big.

Shaped like a disc,

zero noise.

You have witnesses like that.

They're friends of the doctor,
the guy that we rent
the house from.

That you could just tell
they've been sitting
on that story for 26 years.

How excited he was
to finally share it.

There was unusual activity
at the base.

There were helicopters
from the Navy,

which in itself was unusual.

He sees a box.

Was the box unusual?

So to this day, has he spoken
to any of them
that went to Varginha?

- No, no.
- Nothing.

- Yeah.
- Wow.

According to
the witness,

it wasn't only the drivers
who were never seen again.

Their Captain Edson Ramirez,

also left without a word.

January, 1996.

A radiologist
has an unexpected visit
by the military

while on duty
at regional hospital.

He agrees to share his story,

provided his identity
remains concealed.

So we have a big
military presence

on the outside of the hospital.

We've got two army
and two police

on the inside of the hospital
with a box

and something
inside of a black zip body bag.

But what did it smell like?

When they took whatever it was
in that black bag,

and they left the hospital,
the military and the police
with that bag

and that thing,

did the smell leave?

Three of the most strange,
bizarre points,

of this encounter.

Probably about ten months ago,

Marco managed to reach

a vetted, legitimate witness

who was involved
in the transportation
of the, they call them E.T.

or the being.

Um, this guy was so scared,

uh, Marco spent, I think,
eight to ten months,

slowly developing a relationship
with this guy.

And about four days ago
he agreed to meet with me
and Marco, just the two of us.

So we drove late into the night,

we met him at a bar.
When he arrived,
he was with another guy.

He took us
to a different location.

We sat outside and we talked
for a couple of hours

about coming forward,
appearing in the documentary.

I've never ever had
the opportunity
to interview a witness

that potentially handles
an extraterrestrial being.

I'm worried about the military
getting wind of what's going on

because there clearly paying
attention to this witness.

I'm worried about them
getting a phone call,

reminding him of his oath
of secrecy.

I don't want to put
someone else's family
in harm's way.

So you're always,
in the back of your mind,

in a situation like this,

you know that at any moment,
the carpet can get pulled out
from under you,

and it's not a done deal
until it's a done deal.

Listen. I wonder
if we should rent a hotel room

and then have him come to us.

Because, then we can get
all the gear
inside the hotel room

and then he can just show up
and walk in.

We can, we can stop
at the gas station.

Marco coordinates
with the witness,
military Ex,

to secure a safe
meeting location.

Yes. I made appointment
with him in the some hotel
right here.

Close to here and then,
so I think we have to drove...

- We go to the hotel first.
- Yeah, we go...

- Check in
and then he just walks in.
- Exactly.

- Yeah, that's good.

I feel that, that anxiety
in my stomach, you know?

It's just like...

We pull this off
and it's just like first time.

It will be the most
compelling testimony

ever revealed on the history
of this case.

- Oh, my God.
This hill's so steep.
- I know.

Entrada,
this is the hotel.

I would get a quick shot of it,

and I'd shut these
cameras off right now.

Can you guys do that?

Shut everything off.

Guys?

- Yeah.
- Right.

Right here.

Here? Fuck!
This room is small.

You can't even
use these cameras in here.

Oh, my God!

Okay. He's trying to find
the room with two beds.

It'd be better.

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

Mark it.

Okay.

Okay. He's on.

Okay. So we are sitting here
with Military X who clearly

doesn't want his
identity revealed

which we're not going to do.

And he's going to provide
enough detail, not too much,

but enough detail on operations

that he was involved with
with the Varginha case.

When he was in Humanitas,

this is where he saw
part of the creature.

- Yes.
- What was the atmosphere like?

What were the looks on the faces
of the other people in the room?

- Yeah.
- What was it like?

Can he put me in that room?

When you looked
and you saw the leg

or part of the leg
and the foot with the "V"...

- Right.
- ...what did you think?

ESA military base,
is roughly 20 miles

southeast of Varginha.

According to witnesses,

the Army operations
originated from here.

Is there filmed footage,
video footage of the creature

that he knows about?

Military X says
that on January 22nd 1996,

he drove the creature

from Humanitas Hospital
in Varginha to ESA Army Base,

where it would
remain overnight.

Does he have any idea

where the creature went?

Because, uh,
it went to Regionas,

then Humanitas,
then ESA, then Campinas.

And then what happened?

According to Military X,
he transported a creature

from Humanitas Hospital
in Varginha

to ESA military base
and Tres Coracoes

where it stayed for the night.

Early the following morning,

the convoy
continued their mission,

heading south
from Fernao Dias freeway,

then west on Don Pedro
to Espcex army base

in the city of Campinas.

The team meets
with Brazilian Air Force

traffic control officer,
Jose Manuel Fernandez,

his unit was responsible

for monitoring
specific airspace
over the state of Sao Paulo.

Do you know anything
about this case?

Was it Americans involved,

or was it just
the Brazilians involved?

Only Americans. Only.

And how does he know
that the Americans
were involved?

Has anybody seen Eric Lopes?

Has anyone ever
tried to talk to him?

Yeah. People try
to reach him out.

- People have tried?
- Yeah.

And nada?

With the help
of Varginha mayor, Verdi,

the team connects
with Mr. da Costa,

a military police
corporal in 1996.

His son, Romulo A Ribeiro,

agrees to escort them
to the home of Eric Lopes.

Can you go up there?

Eric Lopes
is the military police officer

from P2 who reportedly
drove the car

during the second capture
with Marco Cherese.

Not even the family
of the deceased officer

has been able to get
a statement from Lopes.

If the reports are true,

he is the only living witness
of the second capture.

Officer Lopes has been
unreachable for 26 years.

Oh, my God.

I'll go with him.
I'm going with him.

Hey!

Tell him that the mayor
has blessed us.

You tell him the mayor said...

This is Eric Lopes?

Let me just... Hold on, please.

Let me ask you
a question. Please.

- He is his friend not...
- Oh, okay.

What?

Hold up, hold up.

Just ask him
one question for me.

Will he ever come forward
to make a statement?

What's happening?

This is the house
of Eric Lopes.

- Yeah.
- But he doesn't like to talk.

And the threat
is that they might shoot us

because we're on the property,
trespassing.

They're
talking right now.

- So, Eric won't talk?
- No.

What just happened?
I'm trying... What happened?

Is that Eric Lopes?

- Who is that?
- Yeah, Eric Lopes.

That's Eric Lopes.

He doesn't want to talk at all.

- Okay.
- Yeah, let's go.

Oh, my God. That was Eric.

Just saw him.

Okay, okay. We'll go talk.

Did you get him?
Dave, did you get him?

Please tell me you got him.
That was Eric Lopes.

Oh, my fucking God.
Did you get him in the window?

- Yeah.
- Holy shit.

He was
on the window the whole time.

Oh, my God. You got him?

This, here.
I'm ready to go at this.

You'll be shot
if you don't live here.

- He will shoot you?
- Yeah.

Fuck!

If that guy had nothing to hide,
he would have just said so.

That guy was driving the car
that Marco... was in.

Write what we just did.

I got the interview
yesterday. It was pretty good.

For what?

No. Right now was pretty gnarly.

Ask him if we can
talk about what we just did.

Okay, okay.

Which way did he go?

To the left.

We're stopping here?

Okay.

God, this is...

What exactly did he say?

And he believed that
Eric Lopes was serious?

Yes, he was.

If his story is true,

he is walking around
with a level of confirmation

that only a handful of people
on this planet have.

What does that feel like?

May 8th, 1996,

with mounting pressure
from media and witnesses,

the military base, ESA,
holds a press conference.

General Lima,
addresses the crowd.

The accumulation of aspects,

the girls who saw something,

the other people in the town
who saw something,

this wasn't an isolated event
where you got one witness

saying, "Oh, I saw
something extraordinary."

Not at all.

They seem to be
relatively naive young girls,

and there were
fire department people involved,

who saw the beings, too.

And one nice thing
about it is that

it takes the onus away
from saying things only

happen in the United States.

Well, there was
the United States involvement,

and it wouldn't surprise me

if they paid
to pick up the wreckage

and you know
all the rest of the stuff.

Why not?

Makes sense.
Cheap way to get information.

Let the other guy to the work.

I believe that
the Varginha case

is much more important today
because it is more recent

and some of the events
have not unfolded yet.

Did she have any
connection with eyes?

Did she make any...
Like she saw eye to eye

- with the being?
- Mmm-hmm.

Were there live aliens seen
walking around this town?

Mmm-hmm.

I have deal with
this case in 1996

because I have some
friends from there.

He told that, "Oh, you
don't know what is true.
But I know what I saw."

Oh, James.

Oh, yeah. Really.

Weight off the shoulders.

- Mmm-hmm.
- Yeah.

I just wonder like
what they said

to these witnesses
that 25 years later,

they still don't want to talk
about it on camera at all.

It's, like, unbelievable.

It's like you over them...
Even compensation that
they still won't do it.

I know.
It's like money doesn't...

Well, they won't do it.
That's weird.

The reason
why they haven't made

overt contacts is because
we're so aggressive.

Come on.

Would that smell
make a good perfume?