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understand��C�u@����á��and to express things they don't know how to articulate.�� ��ʡā >If the Bible is a base text for most of European civilization,���C�u@��$àǡ��we've wanted the same kind of mix of, like, horror and gore,��!������as well as morally uplifting stuff ever since.�� dC�u��@������The dark side of we, what we have,�� j�ġ�� that's an internal part of us, started to externalize it.�� C�u��Z|�����And characters became the dark side.�� ������ nIt all stems from Greek classical tragedy,���C�u��|Ӡ����and splits off into Roman melodrama,���C�u���`�����then up through Medieval morality plays��ՠ�����into Elizabethan revenge tragedy,�� 8C�u@���ɠ����then into Edwardian times where they write melodramas.����ǡ��ROne of the ways in which you can talk about very real things�� �C�u����ȡor very controversial things is to dress them up as monsters.��&������So, you get to Frankenstein,1818,���C�u���W�����And in one sense, it's a very literal story�� Z����� about a guy who stitches together���C�u@�� ������another being out of corpse parts,�� ��ӡ́Gand runs a huge jolt of electricity through him, and creates a monster.���C�u@��.P�͡ǁThe Strange Case Of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is published in 1886,�� i�ǡ�� which is five years after the Ripper murders had terrorized��C�u@��M�����not just London but the whole world.�� ��ȡ dJack the Ripper is the archetype of all subsequent slashers.�� �C�u��g�����Name me a slasher movie that doesn't draw�� ����� �on some aspect of, of Jack the Ripper.�� �C�u��}]�١ӁAnd, of course, Bram Stoker was the theater impresario who put that on stage.�� C�u��������[Del] Bram Stoker'sDracula,��󠴡���not the first vampire story by any means.�� C�u@���Q�����You've had things like Varney the Vampire,�� �á�� �which was part of a penny-dreadful story that came out.�� �C�u���������But Bram Stoker broke really new ground,�� c����� uh, by using old tropes.��{C�u���נ����Film then was the natural place to take over.��������\In silent films, and then in talkies.�� �C�u���Ƞ����That structure of how is the good guy��6C�u@�� ������gonna defeat the externalization��)������of what the dark side in him��O������in a character has been realized?���C�u�� ڠ����We can hate that person,��������Uwho is really ourselves externalized.��C�u@�� 8�����That's the structure of melodrama and horror.�� �סс �So much of it to me is the art direction, and that's what those films were.��6C�u@�� Y��̡ƁYou know, because for me, in those films, that's what determines�������� Ywhat makes them classic and what doesn't.���������[sinister music]�� C�u@�� yӠʡāWell, of course, uh, my great-grandfather being Lon Chaney Sr.��Р����~was very well renowned in the horror genre.���C�u@�� �������You can look at him, and you see his influence��נ���� �all over Hollywood even to this day.��Ҡ����And he was the founding father of the entire genre.�� C�u@�� ���١ӁIn early 1930s, you have the very famous versions of Draculaand Frankenstein,��'�ǡ���which set the look of the monsters for generations to come.���C�u@�� �=�š��The character Dracula described by Bram Stoker in his book��������Rwas a, a horrific, ugly kind of a being.��tC�u�� � �����Whereas my father brought his own interpretation.�� ᠴ��� �He did his own makeup, his mode of dress,�� ZC�u�� ������his form of speech, his eyes.�� i����� My dad's portrayal really inspired a whole movement.��C�u�� -��̡ƁThe Goth movement has got even carried over into the music world��s�����!with, for example, Bauhaus.���C�u�� DN�����It was, uh, you know, a dark, sinister,��ʠ����xevil personification�� .C�u�� `/�����that crossed both worlds from the films to music.��gC�u@�� uD�ơ��[Karina] And the same with Frankenstein and Boris Karloff.�� ��ġ�� nYou have the square head, you have the bolts in the neck,�� �C�u@�� �G�����the ragged coat that comes down�� Y�ѡˁ because his arms are clearly taken from somebody with very long arms.��"C�u�� ������It was so different�� ����� �from anything the audiences had ever seen before.�� �C�u@�� 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That scared the bejesus out of me.��OC�u@���̠����That was just more evidence of actual death.��נ¡�� �The Omen.The first, um-- Both of them were really good,�� �C�u@���������but I like the one with Gregory Peck and Lee Remick.�� 3����� �I thought that the story was really well written�� �C�u���ʠ����and very, very scary and very evil and creepy.��ڠ�����The Omen,that was the only one�� .C�u���.�����that really made me have some, uh, nightmares�� ������ Cas, uh, as far as I can remember.���C�u��������The, uh, connection with horror and myself��ʠ����xreally does start with Halloween,you know,�� dC�u@��������in terms of any active interest in the genre.�� _�ʡā I don't think they had any idea how big Myers himself would be.��HC�u@��������That character has become pretty big.�� Z�ȡ It's a hell of a franchise, and I'm proud to be a part of it.�� C�u@��5r�����Michael Myers, uh, became a famous creature��s�ơ��!because he wore a mask, and because he was completely evil.�� C�u@��OI�����He's really a simple character.��������JHe doesn't have much of a backstory�� �����to land the movies that I did.���C�u��f렵���He is just a force of evil out to get you.�� ������ dThe idea of an expressionless, blank, uh, human being��MC�u@���J�����is really pretty devastating.�� Y����� It is almost like, "What is he thinking?��P�����What's going on in that strange person's brain�� 8C�u���5�����that we can't decipher, 'cause we can't look inside."�� ����� �[Marky] Alien,when it came out,���C�u���������you didn't see much of the monster.�������� But it was all the build up to it.�� dC�u@��ʶ�����And then landing on that planet,��)������and then the Facehugger,��O������that, that scared the shit out of me.���C�u���6�����The movie that affected me the most,����¡�� �that I actually jumped out of my chair was Salem's Lot.�� �C�u@���ǡ��And I'm watching it, and they keep talking about Mr. Barlow.�� �ǡ�� �Three quarters through the movie, you don't see Mr. Barlow,�� �C�u@��]�����and then all of a sudden, the entire scream is Barlow.��,����� And it's the most evil-looking vampire of all time.���C�u@��8��¡��The '80s has to be possibly the greatest era of horror,��H�ˡŁ�because you have a lot of great minds working within the genre.��1C�u@��Z��աρYou have amazing advances in special effects, which mean that you could--��1������Literally, something like The Thing,which is '82,���C�u@��}������shows stuff that people had never even imagined.��~�����,Rob Bottin's effects were just so ahead of their time,���C�u���^�ġ��and still to this day, probably the best practical makeup�� C����� �ever done in a movie.��qC�u���n�����One scene I remember from my childhood was��Ҡ�����um, in The Thing,the thing is eating, um, the dogs,�� nC�u@��� �����and to me, I, I saw that, and it was so horrifying�� Ơ����tas a child to see that kind of, you know, carnage.�� dC�u��㐠����[Corey] The Shining,man.��q������My God, that film is a lesson in isolation��RC�u@���������and how maddening your, your, your mind can go����ϡɁWwhen you're just completely cut off from outside stimuli, you know,���C�u@��������and you're left to your own devices��󠤡���in this fucking monstrous,�� �����Wbasically just a fucking castle, you know.�� �C�u@��A<�����Anyone would go fucking mad.��������When they first realize, you know, that he's losing...�� ������You first see it in the film.���C�u@��Y �����You know, he's, he's going, his mind is gone.�� �¡�� �[chuckles] You know, and it's like he's sitting there.���C�u@��mD�ˡŁ-And then she starts thumbing-- -That's too much like real life.��{�����)Thumbing through the shit, you know. [chuckles]�� /�ӡ́"All work and no play," like, you know, the big stack, and you're like,�� �C�u@���٠����"Oh, it's on now, man," you know. [laughs]�� ��á��H'Cause that is-- it has to be one of the greatest movies��{C�u@���J�����ever made from every aspect.��J������You know, the actors, and the casting,������� �and the photo and everything.��@������-Yeah. -But still I meet people,��KC�u@����¡��when people don't dig it, I find it hard to trust them.��T����� Yeah. [laughs]��������R[Danny] The Shininghas this cult following,���C�u@��Ѝ�����which is great.��������EI feel fortunate to have been in it.�������� �And, uh, I guess, my guess would be that�� ZC�u@���/�ʡāit was probably playing on cable when all those guys were kids.�� �ءҁ �[laughs] And so, they were probably frightened by it like many other people.���C�u@�������The third Omenmovie, when he's in the, in the room�������� /with the statue of Jesus.���ʡā "Show man instead the raptures of Thy kingdom." Oh, it's so...�� �C�u@��&h�á��Ooh, when he puts his hands on the thing, and it bleeds,����աρ Yand they make the, the blood, you know, symbolize Jesus crying, whatever.�� 9C�u@��<ؠ¡��Oh, I would have just let him wi-- the anti-Christ win.�� ������ j[Richard] Halloween III, Season Of The Witch.���C�u@��Q������And people either love it or hate it������because it doesn't have Michael Myers.��q����� �But that didn't bother me at all��������when I was a kid, I was so young,���C�u@��j렻���I wasn't kind of expecting to see Michael Myers.��)������And I look at it as a separate movie.��)������As a movie, a standalone movie.���C�u@���頥���Halloween IIIis incredible.��󠷡���And I always liked it as a standalone movie.�� ��ġ��Not because I was the assassin ripping people's heads off�� C�u���������mind you, but, anyway... [chuckles]��{�����)Evil Dead Part I,Sam Raimi.�� �C�u���{�����Atmosphere,���������attitude,��������gore, soundtrack,�� 3C�u���������hands down, got to be...�� C�u���/�����...the The Black Rainbow of horror.�� ������ �To me, the real, the real classics,�� �C�u@�� �����the ones that came out, like that Basket Case,�� Z����� my friends and I still talk about Belial to this day.�� C�u@��!ؠӡ́And when it was cool, then you could show the girls to get them scared.�� ��ɡÁ dAnd then plus, still, you went through the classics, you know,��UC�u��6?�����all the Friday the 13th and that sort of thing.��{�����)People wanted to see violence and blood,�� �C�u��J������and the people that were bad,�������� /that were having premarital sex, and drinking,�� �C�u��am�����and smoking pot or whatever die.�� ƠɡÁtAs soon as they say, "Jason," everybody knows the hockey mask.��C�u��~��ޡ؁I don't think that was expected, uh, when part one came out, part two, part three,��bC�u@�����֡Ёbut when the first person, which was Richard, that donned the hockey mask,���������I think it was just one of those things that took off.��TC�u���f�����This is a character that had six movies�� �������uh, before I ever got involved,�� �C�u@���ˠȡand so everybody knew the character's name around the world.�� ������ �It was almost like each successive movie�� �C�u���͠����had to do honor to the previous ones��U�¡�� by coming up with inventive, crazy, over-the-top kills.���C�u@��b�̡ƁPeople are still looking back saying, "Well, that's Leatherface.�� 4����� �That's Jason, Michael Myers, and Freddie, of course."��C�u@���ԡ΁One of my favorite movies is the Nightmare On Elm Street, the first one.���СʁWI still get scared of that fucking movie. It's, that was so awesome.�� C�u��:�¡��The first one was actually the most interesting for me.��ʠ����yJust the dynamics of the film,��OC�u��Qz�����of this whole town keeping a secret, this guilt.��C�u@��e��¡��That kind of was like a representation of humanity, uh,��������keeping secrets and not letting certain things out.�� �C�u@���̡͠ƁI think there's a big reputation of that and how it can come back�� c����� to have these repercussions on, on them.�� �C�u@���&�����You're a vampire, Michael.���������My own brother. A goddamn shit-sucking vampire.��T������Lost Boysis one of my all-time favorites movies ever.��yC�u���񠴡��And the connection between rock and roll,�� ������ nlong-haired dudes, leather dudes,�� �C�u@��֘�����hot chicks, great music,�� 3����� �and killing people because you have to��$������'cause you're a vampire in beautiful California.�� 8C�u@���2�աρThat was, like, one of the first ones that really made it cool and young,�� B����� �uh, with, with the, with vampires.��)C�u@�� ������I'm really fond of a movie called Prince Of Darkness.��P������This is, like, tremendous.��$������That ending has to be one of my most���C�u@��"j�����favorite endings in the world.������I recommend that movie highly.�� �������It scared me, and I thought about it for a while.�� ZC�u@��=G�����John Carpenter and I were good friends.��{�ѡˁ �And I said, "I wanna come down and watch you do some of the filming."�� �C�u@��Sa�����And he says, "Okay, yeah, just come on down."��u�����#I put Alice in Prince Of Darkness���������basically because he showed up.���C�u@��j������I said, "Oh, here. 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It's not human.���C�u�������And then there's this little matter��נ¡�� �of having a whole bunch of nails banged into your head,�� �C�u��-(�����which sounds like, sounds like a crazy idea.�� =����� �Pet Sematary.Big film.���C�u@��CB�͡ǁI remember very, very clearly when, you know, it sort of came out�� i����� and, and how it was spoken about�� �C�u@��\ ӡ́amongst the, the friends that I had that were allowed to sort of watch.��s�����!I mean, we were eight years old at that point,��UC�u��w������So it was like, "Have you seen Pet Sematary?��������P"It's like the, the most frightening film ever."�� nC�u@��a�����That scene in Pet Sematary with the, the sister�� ⠼��� �who's got spinal meningitis, that's a real thing.�� _C�u@�����աρAnd you watch that and, you know, you get, like, goose-- I get goosebumps�� �ӡ́ �even thinking about it, 'cause that's this classic scene of that movie.��$C�u@��������Terrifying, you know.��頨����Stephen King is a Ramones fan,�� �������and, uh, we did the video, "Pet Sematary,"��xC�u��������where me, Joey, and the rest of the band�� Z����� are, uh, going down into the grave.�� �C�u@���]�����Dee Dee decided to write the song,��P������and then it ended up in the movies.��k����� So did "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker."��C�u��A�����In the truck while the guy's driving,�������� Zand then the baby comes out on the highway and...�� �C�u��%�����No!�� n�סсOnce White Zombie got-- started going, it was starting to get from records,�� C�u@��1򠨡��and there was money to be had,���������I started directing the music videos,���������and I, "Okay, okay. This will be my sort of in."��~C�u��S�����So, when the opportunity came up to make a film,�� 8����� �which was House Of 1000 Corpses, it was like...��TC�u@��h�����That's why that movie, of all my movies,��������Jhas the most elements of, like, music video.�� ݠ�����He had this little movie called House Of 1000 Corpses�� C�u@���������that had been green-lit by Universal Studios.�� .�ԡ΁ �And he asked me if I wanted to play, uh, this character, Otis Driftwood.�� C�u@���8�����And I said, "Yeah."���������And then, of course, that then, you know,���������got refined and amplified in Devil's Rejects.�� �C�u@���v�����Devil's Rejects, still such a killer movie.��{�����)And so glad Sid Haig was introduced to the world again�� C�u@���Z�����as Captain Spaulding character. Maybe...��)����� �Probably the coolest character to come out��v����� and I really, like, since the old guys.���C�u��꾠����I see how people�� ����� �have been affected by what it is that I do,�� �C�u@������and it's, it's, it's very flattering.�� ��ơ�� 9Captain Spaulding triggered the rebellious nature of people���C�u@��"��ơ��because he just, Spaulding just does not give a shit, okay?��Р�����And that is kind of the attitude that goes along�� _C�u��?h�����with metal and horror,�� 砾��� �is like, "You know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.��sC�u@��[�����If you don't like it, tough shit, okay?"�� _����� I think what makes effective horror is that��{�ʡā6it registers the anxiety of the humans that are watching them.�� iC�u@��{k�����That's what horror does best.��K������It makes meaning in the same way��E����� �melodrama and great opera makes meaning.�� 3C�u���8�����It thrives on humans' anxiety.�� ����� �Horror films,��C�u���������politically, philosophically,�� _����� emotionally, psychologically, spiritually,��aC�u���������depending on the film and the person,�������� Zthere is a horror film that has affected them�� >C�u���<�����and never, ever left their psyche.�� ������ =And no other field does that.�� 9C�u@����š��And there you have a little history of the art of horror.�� C����� �We've heard from many heavy metal artists���C�u��^�����as they shared with us their favorite horror films.�� ^����� Let's take a step back and find out��*C�u@��'������when their obsession with the genre first began.���ȡ�On Saturday, you and your buddies would go to the east town,���C�u@��I������and Mom would drop you off in the morning,�������� Zand it would be It Came From Outer Space���������and The Brain That Wouldn't Die.��C�u��c{�����And that was the rite of passage.�� ����� �That's how you, that, we grew up on those movies.��TC�u��x8�����The first, uh, monster movie that I saw was�� 砶��� �7th Voyage Of Sinbad, uh, with the cyclops.�� �C�u@�����š��Every time I'd wake up, I think he'd be, uh, out my window��Р����ready to just, you know, put his head through it.�� C�u���R�����It was movies like that that really, uh,�� ������ Cleft an impression in, in me as a young boy.�� �C�u@�����š��When you are a 10-year-old, you have an 11-year-old friend�� �աρ �who has a 12-year-old friend that has a 13-year-old, so, so on and so on,�� C�u@���N�١Ӂfrom that 18-year-old that had Cannibal Holocaust, you know, so... [chuckles]�� �á���The first-- Uh, no, I didn't see that. I didn't want to,���C�u@���������but you know the, the whole principle.��������PI got introduced to weird shit too early.�� 3�ߡف1They used to have big, giant, like, kind of coffee table books about horror movies,��C�u@��r�ȡand I, I would always ask for those for Christmas, you know.�� �ʡā �And I subscribed to Famous Monstersmagazine, Forrest Ackerman.�� �C�u@��3���ځBefore I knew anything else, I was always really, really, really into horror movies.���������I think as a kid, we all get excited about Halloween��aC�u@��Xu�����and, and the different types of monsters��)������and watching cartoons and stuff.��󠺡��yWe kind of graduated into stuff like, you know,�� �C�u��t+�����watching Dracula, the Wolf Man, Frankenstein,�� C����� �The Mummy, the Creature Of Black Lagoon.�� .C�u@���������You know, all these classic flicks.��*�̡Ɓ�Strangely enough, when I was in, like, second grade or something,��O������they brought in a, the big reels and showed us���C�u@���R�ԡ΁Phantom Of The Opera, the silent version, which seems like an odd thing.�� i����� It was very exciting, but it seemed like,��JC�u@���b�����seems like an odd movie for a bunch of second graders.��������My dad used to call it the Super Saturday,��$�á���and I was like, "Well, how many days of Super Saturday?"��C�u@���Π����He's like, "Two more days," and I'm like, "Yes."�� ��ơ�� 8It was just all this, just almost like overload of cartoons���C�u@���r�ˡŁand the Groovie Goolies were on. I was obsessed with that show.�� ��ڡԁ nIt didn't seem that different to me, the Bugs Bunny or the Frankenstein. Like,��HC�u@�� ֠����it really was a natural kind of thing, you know.�� _�á�� So, uh, that's really was the monsters in Addams Family.�� =C�u@��$Ϡ����Like, that's really kind of where, where it started.��)������I was raised in foster homes as a kid.��J������There was a little TV in the living room,��C�u@��;k�����and on Saturday nights, there was this show,�������� Zand the show was called Jeepers Creepers.��Ҡ�����And it showed all these, the really bad, you know,�� �C�u@��X}�����Plan 9 From Outer Space, you know.�������� ZIt's a good way to dump the foster kids.��E�����MWe just watched monster movies all day.���C�u@��nk�����I remember from a very early age���������watching Chiller Theatre and Creature Features,�� �������which were, like, on Channel 5�� �C�u@���ՠ����and/or Channel 11 on Saturday mornings.��T�Сʁ So, of course, like most kids, I was watching cartoons on Saturdays,��C�u@���������but I was also watching horror movies,��Ҡ���� uh, because my mom did.��󠻡���My mom loved horror movies since she was little.���C�u���������Uh, when I was small, I mean, probably four or five,��������6I was, uh, we would watch Creature Features�� .C�u@��ح�����and, um, Chiller Theatre with the fucking, the hand.����á��LI think it had six fingers. We always tried to count it.���C�u@���]�����Sometimes even The 4:30 Movie. Remember that?��$������Then they would have, like, Dracula��������on The 4:30 Movie, or Frankenstein.���C�u�� ������We build all those Aurora models.�� ܠȡ >Like crazy. I must have built five of each of them, you know.�� �C�u@�� '������That's-- just loved that shit.��Ҡ�����They had this TV show called Ghost Host Theatre.����ǡ���I believe it came on somewhere 10:00-ish to, like, 4:00-ish,���C�u@�� MϠ����and it would play, like, two to three horror movies.�� .�ɡÁ �I remember a few times they played, like, Godzilla, you know,��������1then The Blob, and we used to just watch them.���C�u�� iZ�����And that made me wanna watch more movies.�� .����� �They had this thing called the Sunday Morning Movie,���C�u�� �������that mixed with Twilight Zone�� ������ ^mixed with Outer Limits mixed with Night Gallery.���C�u�� �o�����That was a lot of ammo to throw at a child,�� ������ 3and, and, uh, uh,�� �C�u�� �ՠ����I, I adored it, I loved it.��)������I know that it must have been when I was around three,�� C�u@� �b�����because I remember it was our in our old apartment.�� 9����� �I know that we saw Funhouse. I was so afraid.�� nC�u�� �e�����I mean, there's this, like, robotic clown�� ������ _that comes through a tunnel with, like, a corpse.�� �C�u@�� �#�ġ��That, that's, that is still, like, stuck with me forever.��s�ǡ��!I, I think I took chances in horror when I was really young.�� �C�u@��!Ԡ����I started watching Faces Of Death,��̠����{and the reality ones that you see��������!people getting chopped up, shit like that.���C�u@��!+֠աρI don't know how the fuck I got a hold of them, but it kind of warped me.�� 9����� �[chuckles]��Ƞ����]But that's what I liked watching.��EC�u@�!D&�����My dad took us to see Poltergeist.��U�ɡÁ I was, like, maybe six or something when that movie came out,�� �C�u@��![Ƞš��and, uh, he took us to see it 'cause we just asked him to.�� 3����� �And he was like, "Okay."��������He wasn't like, "This is inappropriate���C�u��!s������for a six-year-old at all." [chuckles]�� ����� �I would stay up late in my, um, in my bedroom,�� 8C�u@��!�W�����and I had a tiny black and white television, you know,����֡Ё /that you had to, that I'd get the reception and to stay up late and watch.�� C�u@��!�Ҡ����They would show trailers for Friday The 13th I and II.��"�á���And the fact that it was, the TV was in black and white,�� _C�u@��!�������and, and, and gritty and grainy�������� .just made it even more scary.��J�����&To me, this was actually more,���C�u@��!�K�����it seemed more of a documentary,��������P'cause I didn't know that movies didn't happen.��T������You know, I just figured people had cameras,���C�u@��!�S�����and they just happened to be around�������� .when all this bad stuff was happening.��F�����"There were these orange books,��$C�u@��"G�����and they were the monster books,��p�����like, you know, Frankenstein, Dracula,��͠���� �Invisible man, uh, Wolf Man, King Kong,�� �C�u@��" O�����and, and it was made by this company called Crestwood.���͡ǁ�And I loved these books. I would check them out every single day.�� C�u@��";٠����Check them out every day, every day.��P������And I, I just worshipped these books.��󠩡���So my mom got me the whole set.���C�u@��"S$�ʡāAnd, um, that's what really got me into it at such a young age.��������MI was around, uh, eight years old, and I saw, um,�� �C�u@��"o������one of the first Draculafilms in a walk-in theater.�� 4����� �We went shopping with my mom or something.��{����� She dropped us off at the theater.��JC�u��"�������We walked in there, and Christopher Lee comes��U����� rising out of the carpet, and we went, "Aah!"�� _C�u@��"�Ơԡ΁It just was, just, just that opening scene where I was, like, horrified.�� ������ iIt must have been about 1981 or 1982.�� nC�u@��"�K�ҡ́We went to my Aunt Donna's house to watch American Werewolf In London.�� Š̡ƁsMy dad was like, "You're gonna love this movie. I read about it.���C�u@��"�D�����It's supposed to be this cool werewolf movie."���������And, of course, the transformation scene�� Z������just blew my mind. It was the greatest thing ever.���C�u��"�L�СʁThe recurring dream sequences were, were literally truly terrifying.���C�u@��"�٠ϡɁEspecially with the Nazi werewolves that burst into the living room�� ��̡Ɓ =and, like, you know, just totally gunned down the entire family.�� �C�u��#Y�����Really, really freaked me out.�� .�̡Ɓ �You know, that's what began my love affair with horror was that.�� �C�u@��#,��ϡɁI think that was the defining moment. It was like riding, you know,��H������a dangerous switchback railway.���C�u@��#BW�����It was like, "Wow, I wanna go again."�� �ɡÁ �Started watching Dark Shadows when I was probably about three.��xC�u��#^8�����It was a serial, like a soap opera,���������like General Hospital.��頡��� CIt ran from '66 to '71,�� ZC�u@��#u������and it was about a vampire named Barnabas Collins.�� ��¡�� 8So I started watching horror, and my mother watched it,���C�u��#�@�����and so probably, yeah, about three or four years old.�� C�����'I was probably about, uh,�� iC�u��#�~�����I'm gonna say five or six,���������and my mom took me to see Buck Rogers.�� iC�u��#�<�š��Like, you know the movie with, uh, with Gil Gerard, right?��)������Like the, the disco sci-fi flick.�� _C�u@��#� �����My mom was like, "Well, you know, he liked Star Wars.�� ������ 3Maybe he'll like this, you know."��q�����RThe trailer for the original Halloween���C�u��#�������was attached to the movie,��v�����$and I was so transfixed.�� .C�u��#�^�����That was it for me.��@�����$Whether it is literature, painting, or film,��\C�u��$������there is always a dark side to art.�� .����� �Let us take a look at the darker side of music.���C�u��$7������Let us explore the history of metal.�� �����6Music, right? I mean, music was around forever.�� C�u@��$T������But the origins of metal are from the blues.�� �ʡā �Robert Johnson could get credited for inventing rock and roll.���C�u��$vd�����When you see in the '60s and '70s,���������the emergence of progressive rock and heavy metal.�� �C�u@��$�X�����Things were louder, things were more dangerous.��#������Metal is under the rock umbrella,�� ܠ����\but metal, metal, metal started with Black Sabbath.���C�u@��$�7�����[Brian] Black Sabbath when they first started��Ǡ����uwas a band called Earth, and they were a blues band,��v����� �and they kind of took that, even Led Zeppelin as well,���C�u@��$�w�¡��they kind of took those themes and that style of music,�� ����� �and put it into this different kind of musical genre.�� �C�u@��$ॠơ��[Eddie] The song "Black Sabbath," the album Black Sabbath.�� ������ _There was stuff that was heavy music before that,�������,but to me, that's the official birth of heavy metal.���C�u@��%I�����They fused horror and, and heavy music together.��'�á���You know, Black Sabbath was a Boris Karloff film, right?�� 3C�u@��%��á��You know, that's where they got the name, from the film,����סс /and they combined it with heavy music, and that's how heavy metal was born.�� C�u@��%1頷���Black Sabbathwas playing in a movie theater.��p�����There was a line around the block,������� �and they were all looking like,��E������"People wanna be scared. Look at that line."���C�u@��%J8�����Let's change it. And they got the name from the movie.��U�ϡɁ You know, that's when they made a turn from Earth to Black Sabbath.��T�ơ��[Corey] Anybody who says that Black Sabbath didn't fucking���C�u��%d������invent heavy metal is a fucking idiot.���������You shut your mouth, dick bags.�� C�u@��%y$�ʡāI'll give credit where credit is due to bands who have helped,�� d����� nbut Black Sabbath set the template.��)C�u@��%�j�����After Black Sabbath, I mean,������there was bands like Judas Priest.���������You know, little later, Iron Maiden.���C�u��%�堢���I mean, these bands took��נ���� �what Sabbath started doing and made it faster.�� C�u��%�/�����I mean, you can say metal to somebody,��������and it could mean anything from Poison and Bon Jovi�� C�u@��%Ҽ�����to Carcass to Slayer to Metallica to Guns N' Roses.��W�ǡ��You had the birth of thrash. You had the influence, I think,�� C�u@��%�r�����of punk and hardcore on it as well.��������That sort of meshed in a little bit.�������� And now you have probably 20 sub-genres of it,�� dC�u@��&��ʡāthat it means something different to so many different people.�� _����� So, I think it's just, it's just had��͠�����so many bastard children along the way.���C�u��&&������Isn't history fascinating?����ɡÁ �Now that you've learned a little history of metal and horror,�� �C�u��&>.�����let us see how horror influenced the musicians.��s�����,Let the convergence begin.���C�u@��&\Ƞ����In the '50s and early '60, there were actually, uh,�� _�ϡɁ there were all kind of, like, minor hits, like novelty rock things,�� nC�u��&u񠶡��but they were actually quite a bit of them.���������Started then. It's where the horror rock started.�� 3C�u@��&�~�����I guess the first one that really got me was�� ��̡Ɓ _was Screamin' Jay Hawkins, who had wrote "I Put A Spell On You."�� �C�u��&�F�����Bryan Ferry's done it. Marilyn Manson's done it.�� ܠ���� �It will be done a hundred more times.��UC�u@��&�Ӡ����[Doug] Screaming Lord Sutch, I knew him as the guy�� Z�͡ǁ who appeared in photographs with the toilet seat around his neck.�� �C�u��&������I met him on the top of a double-decker bus,�� �������and he impressed me as a very intelligent man�� �C�u��&錠����who knew exactly how to market himself.�� d����� [screams]���C�u��&������I guess, as a music fan, a lot of the time,��O������you kind of proceed in, in�� C�u@��'��̡Ɓ"What the fuck" moments when something new suddenly comes along,��R�����and I have a very fixed memory of that.���C�u��'*Ԡ����Watching Top Of The Pops and on comes this��ˠ�����creature with his head on fire,�� C�u��'Gd�����and I was absolutely mesmerized,���������and that was The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown.��HC�u@��'_�ơ��Although this shock that we were actually putting out there�� ����� �was to get beneath the daily level of the mind�� �C�u@��'y_�����that every, you know, that numbs everybody.�� ��ˡŁ 4The education gives you that, that, uh, daily existence demands��;C�u��'�|�����of what is there beneath that,���������so that that was what, what it was about.�� �C�u@��'���СʁSo I made characters. One of the characters was the God of Hellfire.�� ������ BIt was very shocking at that time.�� �C�u@��'�V�����It isn't now.��������We did some shows together. It was kind of great.��Ҡ����MHe had one of the best voices of anybody.���C�u@��'�#�����He had the greatest range.��)������You know, he could sing way up here�� Z������and way down here like an operatic voice.�� �C�u@��(������So, I always really liked Arthur Brown.��P������Arthur, Arthur Brown was, was great.��Ҡ����~Alice, yeah, you know, I could see that.���C�u��(8�š��And I could see that also, he took it in his own direction��������and made something great out of it.��$C�u��(1Ԡ����I think Alice can take you to another place�� ����� �because of all the creepy, macabre kind of stuff.�� CC�u@��(Iv�ݡׁHe had everything that I wanted 'cause I really wanted it to be horror influence.��&������There was a darkness to the other bands,���C�u��(a������and it's kind of get the elements,����ġ�� .but the Alice Cooper stuff, it's just, like, right there.�� dC�u@��(vڠ����You know, "Ballad of Dwight Fry," it's so right there.�� 9�ǡ�� �Alice Cooper, you know, is an iconic example of, of horror.���C�u��(������His stage show is and always will be amazing.�� .����� �It's a, you know, a real-life horror show.�� �C�u@��(���ʡāWhere everybody was Peter Pan, Alice needed to be Captain Hook.�� �������You know, you had so many rock heroes out there,���C�u@��(������and I kept going, "Where's the rock villains?"��������)There really aren't any villains.��������So a rock audience, seeing a Broadway play,��!C�u��(�}�����fully blown up, but it's a horror show.�� ������ 8And it's really well done with lights,���C�u��(������and characters, and, and music.�� Y�����sIt shocked everybody. It was very shocking.���C�u@��)�����But he is a little bit spooky on stage.�� Z����� He's got that monster thing going,��v�����,and it's macabre, and the chopping up of the heads,�� �C�u@��),k�ҡ́and hanging himself, and cutting his own head off, and all that stuff.��"������I could see even way back when in the '70s,�� _C�u��)GH�����they started bringing in these monsters with music.�� B����� �I remember, like, when I was six years old,���C�u��)\������my dad... opened this magazine, he's like,�� Š����}"This is the fucking shit, man."��vC�u��)tU�����It was a, it was a big picture of Kiss.����á�� ZHe showed me videos, and I was like, "Oh, it's amazing."�� C�u��)�o�����[Scott] When I first got into Kiss in '75,�� .����� nyou know, I was already into horror movies,���C�u@��)���ˡŁand I was well into comic books and music, and I was into rock,�� B����� �so Kiss was kind of, like, the whole package.�� 9C�u��)�`�����Off the brown aisle scoop the Kiss.��������UTo me, that was the epitome of horror, originality.��}C�u��)�࠙���The beginnings.��Ƞ����vI respect that because they did it first.�� �C�u@��)�������My best friend in the business is Rob Zombie.��v�����$Rob and I are good friends, and he's a director now.�� ��ݡׁ�I mean, he directs horror. And he has the same attitude towards horror that I do.���C�u@��* ٠����That it's comedy.��Ƞ����v[Eddie] Well, just the way Rob Zombie looks��v����� �and the way his band looks and the way his stages���C�u@��*" ����and these robots and these things that he's doing.�� Z����� He really, I think, embodies everything��������bthat it is to merge metal and horror.��OC�u@��*>!�����When I was in White Zombie,������I mean, just the name itself was...���Ρȁ~...from a great Lugosi film, and I thought the name is so classic.�� �C�u@��*Z�ȡIt's like, "Oh, it's so obvious. This is like Black Sabbath.�� ܠá�� �It's like White Zombie. It's the perfect name for band."���C�u@��*m��ΡȁEven before there was a band, I was like, "If there's ever a band,�� ����� �this is what I wanna call it." I knew that forever.����̡Ɓ]And then once I was on my own, and I could do whatever I wanted,�� 3C�u@��*���ȡthat's when like, "Oh, I'm gonna have giant robots on stage.�� �ѡˁ �I'm gonna have all kinds of creatures. I'm gonna have giant screens."�� �C�u@��*�砰���Whatever I thought of was what I did.��͠����{Lyrically, horror definitely has had a big influence,�� 4�ơ��]uh, on what I've done in my life, that's, that's for sure.�� �C�u��*��š��The song "Among The Living," the title track of the album,�� 렬��� �is about, based off of The Stand.���C�u@��*�֠����And it's about Randall Flagg in,��͠����{um, the Stephen King character.��J�����sThe song "Lone Justice," off of Spreading the Disease,��MC�u@��*�E�����influenced by The Dark Towerseries.���������I wrote about things I knew, and that was�� �����aKing books and comics and,��)C�u��+}�����uh, that was it.�� �¡�� �We had a song, "I Don't Wanna Go Down To The Basement,"�� dC�u@��++�����Texas Chainsaw Massacre.��{�����)So, we were influenced by those movies,�� ������to be able to write about them.���C�u@��+FR�����Lizzie Borden? Who's this girl, you know?��U����� [laughs] What does she want, you know? Even though���������it was the O.J. Simpson trial of that time,���C�u@��+g������a lot of kids never heard of it.���������And now, of course, they're doing movies and stuff��F����� �of the real Lizzie Borden.��OC�u@��+}g�����I saw The Omen. And when Thorn wipes the kid's cheek��W�����with the fox blood, 'cause he killed his first hound,�� _C�u@��+�y�����I just love that, you know.���������And so, I brought that into my show.��v������And I do that all over the world,��JC�u@��+�<�����and every kid wants blood on their faces.�� ����� �When we did our "Sandpaper" video,�������~we thought we should do a homage to Evil Dead.���C�u@��+�0�����You know, what if our band was possessed by demons,��{�����)people who know Evil Dead will go,��{�����R"That's a homage to Evil Dead.We like this."��TC�u��+�������There was always that vibe too.�� _�á�� If it was cheaply done, well done, made it even scarier.��~C�u��+�������Everything about what we do is completely influenced��x�����'by horror movies or comics.�� �C�u@��,n�ʡāThere's a character in Redneck Zombies called the Tobacco Man,�� ��ġ��Hand he wears a hood, and I think you're supposed to think�� �C�u@��,0���that he's got, like, cancer or something.��{�͡ǁ)He's, like, rotting, and that was where we got the idea for that.��WC�u@��,K�����Over the years, I've got various requests�� _�á�� to work, um, with metal bands, usually through my agent.���C�u@��,i��ѡˁThe only one of those that ever came to fruition was Cradle of Filth.��ˠ����yWell, we did an album called Midian,���C�u��,�������which is based on Clive Barker's book Cabal,��s�����!which then was obviously the Nightbreedmovie.�� C�u@��,���ġ��So we thought that if we're gonna have a narrative in it,�� ��ӡ́ _it would be good to have someone from the Clyde Barker world of horror.���C�u@��,�-�����It was great to have dug himself,�� �աρ �and, and we immediately, like, affected his voice to sound like Pinhead--��C�u��,·�����So I did four albums with Cradle.��������I was suggesting that they should change their name��{C�u@��,�z�����to Doug Bradley and Cradle of Filth.��U�ҡ́ [Dani] When I discovered metal, I was just a few years into my sort of�� �C�u@��-�ơ��being very much into horror, as soon as I discovered metal,�� i�ԡ΁ I totally embraced it and totally understood how one embraced the other.��\C�u@��- !�ʡāEverything we've done has that vampiric element to it as well.��H������Not so much for Korn, but I did, uh,���C�u@��-5a�����I had a alter ego J Devil when I was doing DJing.�� ������ dAnd I did a song called "Lick Me,"��Ƞ�����and it takes samples from The Exorcist.�� C�u@��-P�ˡŁWhen the little girl was banging herself. She's goes "Lick me!"�� �¡���So, I mean, uh, shit like that, using samples like that���C�u��-h6�����and stuff like that are really intense.��U����� I used the music, a lot of metal music,�� iC�u@��-~P�����for listening to in between violent scenes.�� ������ _It just helps my energy.��v������I used one song in particular a lot,�� �C�u@��-�A�����and that was "Enter Sandman,"��Ҡ�����my favorite Metallica song still.��נ����6For years and years, I've been a fan of Metallica.���C�u��-�-�����I just think they're awesome.��à�����And, uh, love their, uh, album, uh, "Enter Sandman."��MC�u@��-� �����That one is unbelievable.���������I've had my guitar, you know,������� oI clicked my guitar in, you know,���C�u��-�㠻���and I noodle sometimes when I'm watching movies.�� .����� �Sometimes I find myself��OC�u@��-�Ǡ����kind of, like, playing to the flow of the film,�� 4�ʡā �and I kind of-- trying to anticipate what's gonna happen next.�� nC�u@��.Š����I'll write a riff, and I go, "Oh, goddamn.�� ��ǡ�� dThat sounds like Godzilla walking through Tokyo, you know?"�� �C�u@��.0Ҡ����If you're writing heavy metal and you have a riff��P������that sounds like Godzilla is walking through Tokyo,��)������that's yum. You're on the right track.�� C�u@��.KW�����Wendy O. Williams, you know, who we're named after,�� 4����� �the band is an ode to Wendy O.��������1You know, it's like just blowing up the cars�� �C�u��.h������and chainsawing things in half�� �ġ�� �and making it a real horror show, um, and real shocking.���C�u@��.��ˡŁAnd I think that that, uh, obviously has been a huge influence.�� j�̡Ɓ [Carla] We were very influenced by horror and a lot of the songs�� �C�u@��.�������that we wrote were about, you know, serial killers�� ����� �and real-life experiences that would scare you.�� �C�u@��.�ޠ����And I think that horror�� .�סс �and the things that scare us are still a running theme in all of our songs.�� �C�u@��.������The fact that we do metal of a darker and heavier sort�� _����� make us slightly close to horror movie��󠼡���and then maybe them to Teletubbies, I don't know.��)C�u@��.퇠ʡā-[Tim chuckles] -[Johanness] Sometimes we try to scare people,��������Kmake people uncomfortable��z�����tin the stuff we are trying to tell.���������And lots of that imagery��{C�u@��/������comes from horror movie, then obviously.��͠����{Well, Skinny Puppy started as, uh,�� �ǡ��,an electronic band that didn't wanna just stand up on stage�� 8C�u@��/%��Сʁand do a little dance because electronic music can be quite sterile.�� ��ˡŁ iSo our weekends were composed of taking a lot of hallucinogenics���C�u@��/B��ʡāand watching horror film, after horror film, after horror film�� 3����� �until they actually blended together.��v�����Fulci really hit me hard because there is���C�u@��/]������an abstract nature to his films��O�ϡɁ�that I didn't understand, but in the altered state that we were in,�� �C�u��/t�ҡ́it was incredibly effective of inducing inspiration for stage effects.��gC�u��/���ޡ؁I think if you grow up enough with listening to horror themes and stuff like that,��6C�u��/�������within your music,��󠮡���let you be writing darker material.�� �C�u@��/��͡ǁIt's gonna come out of you. It's gonna come out of you, you know?�� 样���GUh, Necrophagia, the stuff I wrote for them.�� /C�u��/�=�����The Christ Inversion.��Ҡ���� �Bands like that, I've always, you know...�� �C�u@��/䌠����Not to mention...������� _...the name of the second band's uh, record is��Ҡ�����Vulgar Display of Power.��vC�u@��0W�����And I ripped that off...������� �...from The Exorcist.���͡ǁ�[devilish voice] That's much too vulgar display of power, Karras.�� C�u@��0!젰���My band, Charred Walls of the Damned,��J������we've made a couple of videos,��Ƞ���� nand they were both horror theme.���C�u@��08�š��One was called "Ghost Town" and one was called "Zerospan."�� 9����� �These music videos offer a chance to make a,���C�u��0Mq�����you know, three or four-minute short horror film.�������� .When we did, um...��)C�u@��0bݠ����...an album based on Dante Alighieri's,��������Uuh, The Divine Comedy.�������RIt was about the story of Dante traveling from,�� �C�u��0~������you know, hell through purgatory to paradise.�������� .We had a video "Convicted in Life,"�� _C�u��0���¡��and it was using a lot of imagery from that actual book��R�����that translated into this imagery.��vC�u@��0������That was really incredible in what he was writing,�������� .and he used that in the imagery of the actual video.�� �C�u@��0�Ġ����I love all the dark side of things, I actually have��P������another thrash band with my sons, Hatriot.��������RAnd we did a song about the Countess Báthory,��tC�u@��0�8�����called "And Your Children to Be Damned," and we were���������completely drenched in blood through the whole video.�� �ɡÁ\And people didn't like it. 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"What the hell is this?"�� �ϡɁ6We, like, dove right into the whole concept that we were, like, uh,���C�u��1�֠����a B horror movie on steroids,�� 젢��� �Ghost is just like Papa.�� iC�u@��1�������The singer's got his face painted up like a skull,��������Uand he's dressed like the priest.��͠�����That's awesome, you know, that's like horror rock�� �C�u@��1�������or shock rock, or what everyone call it.���������We tend to go retrospectively back�� ��աρ�in order to recreate a lot of visual elements that we just find pleasing.���C�u@��2"ՠ����As much as we were influenced by horror films,���������it was also a fascination��������with, uh, musicals, actually.�� �C�u@��2@�����Simple example is obviously The Phantom of the Opera.�� ������ �You don't know who's underneath,��E������and it could be whatever you like.��PC�u@��2[��š��Marilyn and I jousted in the press when he first came out�� _����� because he was the, uh, Priest in the satanic,���C�u��2w������you know, Anton LaVey's thing, all that whole thing.�� ������ �And I'm Christian.��f������And, you know,���C�u@��2�Q�����I, I kind of, uh,��p�����our theology didn't match up at all.��������MAnd then we toured together. And had a great time.�� iC�u@��2���á��I think the scariest thing about Marilyn was the videos.�� 8����� The girl that did the videos was really good.�� 8C�u��2������Really cemented what Marilyn was about there.�� ᠰ��� �I have been kissed by Marilyn Manson.�� C�u@��2�^�ơ��-[electronic scratch] -You don't get over that in a hurry.�� ������ 4I recently met Jeordie White,���������who actually is in the Marilyn Manson's group.�� dC�u��2�������He was influenced by the horror genre.�� ������ nAs was, I guess, Marilyn.��*C�u��3>�����We're more...��頼����...interested in, like, the chaos, and the shock,�� dC�u��3'������and the sexuality, and confusion,�� �š���which is always somewhere between Texas Chainsaw Massacre�� C�u@��3CU�����and the Pink Flamingos and John Waters' movie.�� .�ҡ́ �You know, those are the movies that we would watch to get inspired by.�� C�u��3X젣���I really loved the whole,�� 젟����the dark, outrageous,���C�u��3q<�����cool look, great songs.�� ����� �So I was really, um, into the band�� YC�u��3�/�����before I got into the band, and luckily, you know,�� ����� �it just, everything just came together.���C�u��3�u�����I don't wanna look like a regular dude.�� ����� �And I, I love,���C�u@��3�=�աρyou know, the makeup, like Jack Pierce would do, all the Universal stuff,�� n�ɡÁand I really, really was so influenced by him and his genius.��C�u@��3������And luckily, being with Zombie,�� ������ 4it's just exactly what I grew up��O�����1loving and wanting to be,��UC�u��3�;�����and it's like a monster with a guitar.�� .����� �Wednesday 13 is really good at it.��OC�u@��4󠺡��He's fantastic. Nobody turns a pun like he does��U����� when it comes to horror, you know?��������And his music is great. He's passionate about it.���C�u@��4H�����And I think that's one of the things you have to be.��������EYou have to be passionate about it.��Ƞ���� �The first Murderdolls single that we did, uh,�� 8C�u@��44�ȡwas a song called "Dead In Hollywood," which originally was,�� =����� �was on Frankenstein Drag Queens' third album.�� 3C�u@��4L������And it was originally called "Hooray for Horrorwood,"��Ҡ�����which I got from famous monsters or creepy magazine��GC�u��4d-�����because there's a line where it says,��J�¡���"You can knock on Ed Wood, but it won't do you no good.�� �C�u@��4ym�����Hey, Leatherface, remove my face."��$������And we had a part in the video where Joe's a woman.�� _������And he rips the face off, and he's screaming,�� C�u@��4�������You know? So we did a little homage to that.��{�����)As far as horror goes with what Wednesday 13�� /�����is it's just like, "I'm just getting started."�� _C�u@��4������And I'm really just getting started with it.��{�ʡā)I have ideas and things that I've never seen anybody do before��}C�u��4�c�����that I want to, to try.��Ҡ�����Slayer, obviously��������one of my favorite bands.���C�u@��4� �����Extremely horror influence throughout the year.�� ����� �Many, many songs written�������~about horrible things, serial killers.�� 8C�u@��5n�����And if a band could be a horror movie, it would--�������� .for me, it would be Slayer.������� �Jack the Ripper.��f�����There's a lot of people���C�u@��5�����that have stories��l�����based on that particular killer.�� �١Ӂ�When you think about Iron Maiden Killers,same thing. 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All the old Death songs and, and, and, um,�� �C�u@��9��¡��you know, "Scream Bloody Gore" is reanimated, you know.�� �աρ �Um, and then they have the song "Evil Dead," you know? So extremely gore.�� �C�u@��9�ᠾ���Definitely you can see throughout that whole album.�� ^�֡Ё We're at Knotfest, idiot. Of course, Slipknot stands out as a horror band.���C�u@��9��ɡÁThey've been around for a long fucking time paying their dues.��)������I mean, it's fucking good shit.��������~[Jizmak] Yeah, they're badass musicians.��UC�u@��9�}�ڡԁAnd they're fucking, their masks are pretty sick. They're pretty scary, right?��ˠɡÁyI mean, they're not as scary as us, but they're pretty scary.�� �C�u@��9�Z�͡ǁI think Slipknot's probably the best example of a modern-day band�� 3����� �that's kind of adapted that Kiss imagery.��UC�u@��:>�����It also gives them a uniform look, which I liked.�����ځ ZThere was that thing about Kiss. I mean, even though they had these garish costumes,��O�����Wthey were a gang. You could see this.���C�u@��:�����I think, because I was a horror fan,��P������and all the guys in the band were horror fans,�� 3������we knew how to set that tone.�� nC�u@��:=�����We knew how to set that mood of foreboding, you know,�� _����� and just closing people in.��{�¡��6You know, the masks, there's always been this byproduct�� C�u@��:] �����where people have always assumed��̠����{that we started wearing them for shock value.�� �������But it was always so much more artistic than that.�� �C�u@��:y򠶡��It was about letting that other person out,��U�Ρȁ which I think is very much in line with why Michael Myers wore it.��!C�u��:�Ġ����He put it on so he could let that beast out.�� 砷��� �This music is coming from a person inside me�� C�u@��:������that I may not be able to show the world around me.�� ������ �So I put this mask on. And then all of a sudden, boom.�� C�u��:�������-There he is. -[glitches]���C�u��:㱠����Metal and horror work so well together, don't they?��xC�u��:������Don't they, Christopher?��F����� �[suspenseful music]��E������Oh, yes, I can see you.�� C�u��;砒���[scoffs]��g�����UHow are you doing this?���������Let's just say I'm not a prerecorded video.�� �C�u��;;�����I am a messenger.��Ƞ���� �Have a seat, so we may continue�� �C�u��;Q۠����your lesson.���C�u@��;k�ġ��You are the lone survivor of the apocalypse, Christopher.�� >�ǡ��The last one to acquire the knowledge that I have to share.��HC�u��;�������I'm the only survivor?��à���� �Yes.��k�����,You're the lone survivor of an empty, desolate world.�� �C�u��;������The last remaining human...��v����� �...to absorb this knowledge.���C�u��;�񠸡��Hasn't there been enough horror in the world?�������� [stutters] This is hell.��OC�u@��;�6�����We all need an escape from time to time.��)����� 3It's entertainment, Christopher.���������Let us move forward.�� .C�u��;�젬���We will now cover a few segments,����ġ���starting with the use of horror artwork on album covers.��&C�u��<K�����And the creation of horror film soundtracks.�� ������ iThen, we will take a look at the meeting grounds�� C�u��<1j�����for the fans of metal and horror�� ����� Cin the form of conventions.��)C�u��Th-- It'll definitely, a cover would definitely do it for me.�� .C�u@��=5/�ݡׁI bought that record without knowing it at, at all what Iron Maiden sounded like.��"�����1But I see a zombie on the cover.��)C�u@��=P7�����And this really cool font for a logo.�� 3�ʡā �And it was in the metal section in the store. This was in 1980.�� �C�u@��=lp�����So, I, I-- "All right, all right, it's a metal band.��󠭡���And look at that guy on the cover.��J����� �Holy shit! Look at that dude."���C�u��=�������Eddie trans-- He, he, like, transformed Iron Maiden.��������MIt's like, obviously, he became that icon.��UC�u@��=�ԠΡȁJust like Megadeth has their icon. Everyone was looking for, like,�� 8�Ρȁ �"Who are we going to have for our 'symbol' of the band?" You know?�� �C�u@��=��ԡ΁[Dave] The inspiration for our mascot, Vic Rattlehead, is really simple.�� �á�� �I think a lot of people have looked at it and missed it.�� �C�u@��=��ӡ́It's so in your face. It's, "See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil."�� n�����That's it. I drew the guy,��C�u��=�\�����then we...����ơ�� /...put the bones behind it for being kind of like a pirate.��GC�u@��=�������And then we changed his head to it.��נ���� �So that, you know, you're stuck to this lifestyle�� �����5because, you know, as troubadours,���C�u@��>,�����we really are marauders going from town to town.�� ݠ���� �I think an album cover artwork, its purpose is to say,�� �C�u@��>(������"You can't hear me, but look at me.��������I'm cool enough, you wanna hear me."��v����� �It wouldn't be much different from how movie theaters�� �C�u��>Bz�����would drag people in, you know?��󠩡���Um, or billboards or, you know,���C�u@��>Zr�����film posters, especially the '80s--��v�����$well, late '70s, early '80s,����ˡŁ�always dripping with blood, and people love that kind of thing.�� BC�u@��>x2�����[Charlie] There's been a band called Ghost,��*������which I'd-- I took a liking to,��������'and then I saw the cover, their first album.��yC�u��>�������I saw and I'm like, "Wow, this is Salem's Lot."��נ���� �I just loved the whole aesthetic of that,�� C�u@��>��ȡof that group, you know? It just has everything that I love.��!������I remember walking through Sears department store�� �C�u��>�$�����and seeing Kiss Love Gun. It just came out.�� 8����� �I remember it was like this music group of monsters.�� �C�u@��>�~�ΡȁAnd so I bought it just on the cover, and it interchanged my life.����͡ǁ�The Brain Drainalbum cover of the Ramones is art work of a ghost.���C�u@��? b�����It would attract the buyer to the album�� ��١Ӂ Cthat obviously was a horror or sci-fi fan, or metal, or punk. Whatever it is.��xC�u��?&ˠ¡��Well, Cannibal Corpse definitely has the most grotesque�� C����� �horror album covers ever.��{C�u@��?<�͡ǁYou know, people being disemboweled and all kinds of crazy stuff.�� 砳��� �They, they probably take the cake as far���C�u��?QΠ����as gory album covers.�� ��Ρȁ iWhen I recently got Cannibal Corpse Tomb of the Mutilatedon vinyl,���C�u@��?m��١Ӂit's one of the most horrific and shocking album covers that you'll ever see,��������and I love it because it's shocking as hell.�� �C�u@��?���̡ƁYeah, I think about the covers we have, some of them are just...�� ��Сʁ�Butchered at Birth, I mean, come on. And, and that pisses people off�� YC�u@��?�������like to no end, you know?������You start messing with babies and stuff.������� dOzzy Osbourne, Blizzard of Ozz���C�u@��?�l�����is one that sticks in my mind��Ǡ����uas far as just being an amazing album.��������Uh, Bark at the Moonis like,���C�u@��?�3�����obviously him as a werewolf was pretty fucking cool.�� d�աρ [Jim] Diary of a Madmancover had the upside-down cross at the background.�� cC�u@��?�X�����Ozzy's bloody. He's got a little kid over there.��)������So that was a little, a little frightening.�� ������Album covers are just like posters, you know?��UC�u@��@⠴���They're like movie posters. They're like,��͠����{"Hey, if there is, if it's a good album cover,��)�ϡɁRit's gonna give you a flavor of what you're gonna be listening to."�� �C�u��@#������I think the late '70s�������� .and right through the '80s became such a fertile time.�� oC�u@��@:㠹���You had people on one hand doing horror music,�� Šá��sand you had people on the other hand doing horror film.�� C�u��@T �ΡȁAnd then somewhere in the middle, where these two circles crossed,�� n�����you had a hybrid.���C�u��@gĠ����The one that kicked it off for me was��$������Phantom of the Paradise.��������tThat was heavy metal,��C�u��@}�����rock and roll, horror.�� 3����� �And that, to me, was�� �C�u@��@�E�����the piece that said it that everybody had to go to.�� �ȡ �Then you had things like Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park.�� �C�u@��@�������That was 1978.��$������So it wasn't really metal, but it was Kiss�� ������and it was a lot of their stuff,�� �C�u@��@Ȁ�����so that kind of kicked it off.��������But they have a film,��E����� �the first metal exploitation horror film.�� �C�u��@�頟���1980, Terror on Tour.�������� ZThen 1984, Alice Cooper, Monster Dog.�� �C�u��@�������Hard Rock Zombies,1985.�� .����� �Also, about 1986, Maximum Overdrive,�� �C�u��A򠰡��Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare, Black Roses,�� ܠ���� �Shock 'Em Dead, A Nightmare on Elm Street 3.�� �C�u@��A(�ΡȁI tend to like um, you know, that, the whole Freddy Krueger thing.�� n�����I thought it was really a great series.���C�u@�A>Q�����And I remember being so jealous at George Lynch�� Y����� and, and Dokken for having a song in that series.��!C�u@��AX(�̡ƁThey'd already titled the movie. A lot of people think we came up��נ���� �with the song "Dream Warriors," but we didn't.��{�ɡÁ�And that was the first time somebody ever come to me and say,���C�u@��Au�ȡ"You write a song, but it has to be called 'Dream Warriors,'�� ������ Band the title 'Dream Warriors' must be in the chorus."�� �C�u@��A���ʡā[Eddie] Dokken's "Dream Warriors," they actually incorporated,�� 3����� �there's footage in the video for that song��������-of Freddy Krueger... -[Jim] Right.���C�u@��A���ӡ́...and that was actually, that was really something that was paired up,�� ����� �I think, pretty, uh, directly,��������as opposed to where the other films��C�u@��A������may have just licensed songs or whatever.��������TYeah, "The Man Behind the Mask" from Alice Cooper,��������and the Friday the 13thmovie.���C�u@��A�R�����[Alice] When you had your new horror characters,��U����� your Jasons and your Michael Myers,��������1the new slasher films��$C�u@��A�U�����sort of happened the same time as metal did.�������� So there was a connection there.��q�����,If you saw an action scene with Jason��}C�u��B��١Ӂand Freddy Krueger fighting, well, it certainly wasn't gonna be violin music.���C�u��B(�����It was going to be... [imitates metal music]�� ������ C...aggressive kind of, uh, music.�� �C�u@��BB�����That, and it worked together. It just works together.��{�����)The bands are influenced by horror movies��T�š��+also because many horror movies, they use the heavy metal.��C�u@��Bb�ԡ΁Uh, included Dario, Dario Argento use a lot of heavy metal for his film.��x�����&[John] Dario Argento used it really well and early.��HC�u��B������And if you see his movie called Phenomena,��u�����#he used heavy metal in that really to a great effect.�� �C�u@��B���ҡ́If you listen to the soundtracks, or if you go through the soundtracks�� ᠬ��� �of The Return of the Living Dead,�������Wit was basically a compilation of rock��JC�u��B�������and... punk songs.�� 񠶡���When I watch The Return of the Living Dead,���C�u@��B������I still get goose bumps��������Jwhen the skeleton comes up and starts saying,�� 栠����"Do you want a party?"�� 4C�u��B�ݠ����It was like, "Okay, now chaos is gonna ensue."�� ����� �Soundtracks for films�� 3C�u��C~�����of the singles were selling as well,�� 砨��� �if not better than soundtracks�� �C�u��Cr�����that were the composed score to the, to the film.�� 8����� �Music is like the,��KC�u��C+������the unsung hero of horror movies.�� C����� �Especially you look at Psycho, you look at Jaws,�� �C�u��CCѠ����you look at Halloween, you look at Friday the 13th,�� ����� �they really kind of push the boundaries,�� �C�u��C[��ơ��and I think that's one of the reasons why horror is always�� ᠭ��� �so at the forefront of, musically,�� ^C�u��Cr������just being able to kind of get away with murder.�� /����� �[heavy metal music]���C�u��C�T�����Every week of the year,�� 砭���you can go to a horror convention.��TC�u@��C�s�����Can't go to a romance convention,��������Pcan't go to a Western convention,�������� �can't even go to a Star Warsconvention�� 3C�u@��C����every week of the year.��A������But every week of the year������� �in the United States, someplace,��U������there's a horror convention.��qC�u@��C�������How and when did horror conventions begin?��נ���� �Well, I mean, I can tell you when they began for me.��נ���� They began for me in the '80s, uh, when magazines���C�u@��C�w�����like Fangoria, Chiller Convention�� ������ _and all of those East Coast entities����ġ�� started putting on a show so everybody could be together.���C�u��D������But before that, with Famous Monsters of Filmland�� 栴��� �with James Warren and Forrest J Ackerman,��{C�u@��D+������they began in the 1970s,��{�����)when they held their very first-ever convention,��͠�����I think in 1974 in New York City.�� dC�u@��DGk�����As they started to come up, you're like,��󠸡���"Wow, we have a history of horror." You know?�� ��ǡ���And that's why I think, you know, things like Monsterpalooza���C�u@��Da𠸡��are thriving now because they're showing you,��)������like, these are the people who have done the makeup.��Ҡ����WThese are people who are in the films.���C�u@��Dy������And then here are the films themselves.��p�����So you have a full-rounded presentation,��Ҡ�����and that's something for everyone.���������My partner, Eben, is��C�u@��D�=�����the one that is the brain trust of Mad Monster,�� ������ _and his vision was to make an old-school convention�� C�u��D�a�����because what we are selling and what we're buying�� 9����� �is not stuff, it's memories.�� �C�u��D���̡ƁI put to the rock and roll and the horror movies thing together.�� B�����Sure, I am.��C�u@��D�j�����A friend of mine, Kevin Barbary,��������who was already attending conventions�������� way before... I ever did.�� �C�u��D�࠹���He brought the idea to us to have a convention�� ������ ^up here where we added a music festival�� /C�u@��E�����to the horror convention as well.��������This convention, I liked it 'cause we got to play�� ��̡Ɓaand, um, all great friends of mine, and it was great to see 'em.�� nC�u��E$������And it's cool to have the show too.��U�¡�� I never had any interest in throwing a festival before.��WC�u@��E@������I just enjoyed showing my friends horror films.��T����� We're not like the biggest festival,�� ������abut I think we are a unique festival.�� �C�u��Ea������I think we show killer fucking movies.�� ������ �I know we have killer fucking bands�� BC�u@��E{M�����year in and year out.��O������That's Housecore.��J������We're about to bring up some badasses to the stage.�� �C�u��E�������Who are...��;�����O...dudes highly respected��Ƞ���� �in the worlds of rock and roll and horror.��C�u��E�@�����This will be my second year in a row�������� Zhosting Kirk Hammett's Fear FestEvil.�� C�u@��E�P�СʁIt's an honor, man. It's like my community service to get to do that�� C����� �because I'm able to get up on stage and talk���C�u��E�������about how much these two worlds mean to me.�� d����� [Bill] The Kirk Hammett's show, um,���C�u��E�~�����yes, I was on stage with those guys, so...�� ������ 9A lot of the metal guys, you know, have been inspired�� �C�u@��F K�����by some of the movies I do.��$������Fear FestEvil was great.��������tUm, I got to go up with my buddy Joel Harlow,�� �C�u��F%#�����the fucking genius makeup affects guy.�� ������ BHe's Johnny Depp's guy.��vC�u��F;�š��He did a live application on stage in front of an audience���������and turned me into Jack the Ripper.��$C�u@��FR��á��I would just sit in a chair just so I could get made up,����ơ�� Zlook at myself in the mirror, and then take a picture of it�� 3C�u@��Ff ����and go, "Wow, look what I did today."��E������Like it's the coolest thing in the world.������� �I think like in Kirk's case, when I first met him,�� dC�u@��F������he gave me a signed copy of his book��Ҡ�����Too Much Horror Business,��Ƞ�����and I right away read that book,���C�u��F������and I learned that Kirk as a child, you know,�� >����� �grew up with an intense interest in horror films.�� dC�u��F������I was invited to his show,�������� �uh, several years ago in San Francisco���C�u@��F�i�����and had an absolutely wonderful time there.�� ݠ���� �And then, I had the opportunity to see a large portion��C�u@��Fߢ�����of his magnificent collection.�� 9����� �I don't know if I ever realized��E������what kind of a collection he has,��C�u@��F�I�����and I think I've still only seen just a portion of it.�� ������ d[Bela] I was privileged to attend the convention.�� �C�u@��G[�ġ��And a concert that he put on where he performed on stage.�� ������ _And, and it was really quite an experience.�� �C�u@��G+I�š��I know there, there are people out there who love horror.�������� ZI know there are people who love heavy metal.��$�����,And I know there are people who love both.���C�u@��GC�����And basically, I'm reaching out to those people��t�ҡ́"and saying, "Hey, man, I'm into it too. And I got a lot of cool stuff.�� C�u@��G_��ǡ��You can just come over and check it out. And you know what?�� 3����� �I got a great guild that I have assembled��������,of some really great cool bands���C�u@��Gz������filled with guys who love horror movies as well.�� ������ _And, you know, these are my buds.��Ǡ�����And at the end, we're gonna have a big old jam���C�u@��G�נ����because we just all love the same stuff."��P������And what it really is,�� ���� nFear FestEvil's just a celebration��C�u��G������of both things, horror and heavy metal.�� ����� �[Gunnar] I go to several conventions a year.�� �C�u@��G��ߡفAnd there really does seem to be a real strong link between heavy metal and horror.��������WLots of, uh, what we would call metal heads�� �C�u��G�Ơ����come to my table.��������I see them everywhere, though.�� ������Yeah, I see it all over the world.��C�u@��G󎠼���Every person that is not wearing a horror T-shirt��!������is wearing a heavy metal T-shirt, that's for sure.�� �C�u@��H��ġ��It is the same kind of people, I think the same clientele��\����� that, that goes to both of these things.��)C�u��H*w�����Horror movies and heavy metal concerts.�� ������ 4They are quite, quite wonderful,�� dC�u��HB�����uh, and, uh, I love them all.�� _����� From the bottom of my heart...���C�u��HYc�����...thank you.��;�����{[glitches]����� Thoughts?��㠢����[soft suspenseful music]��zC�u��Hr6�����Why does this matter now?��p����� �Horror conventions?���������There are no more people around��@C�u��H�󠦡��to go to horror conventions.��{����� 4But what great experiences they were.���C�u@��H������Men, women and children��������from all over the world came together��T������to share their mutual love���C�u��H�'�����for such brilliant art forms.�������� ZBut it's all gone now. [pants]�� C�u��H�U�����It's all gone, and this is all pointless.�� �C�u��H�I�����I, I'm done with this bullshit.��E������[electricity zaps]�������MNo need for hostility, Christopher.�� C�u��I������I am merely trying to share my knowledge with you.�� .����� �As it stands,��EC�u��Ip�����I am the only friend you have.��̠���� So please take a seat.�� �C�u��I0G�����We have arrived at the conclusion of your lesson.�� C����� �The most crucial chapter.��JC�u��IG:�����Now is the time to find out��͠����{exactly why metal and horror work so well together.�� C�u@��I[u�����What is it that makes these two genres�� ����� �so compatible with one another?���������It has all been leading up to this.�� iC�u��I~������[glitches]��������Horror has become very visible.��Ҡ���� CAnd this is where it gets interesting���C�u@��I�젹���in terms of sort of censors trying to come in.��T�Ρȁ We had the, um, big videotape censorship scandal in the, in the UK���C�u@��I�K�����with the, uh, the whole concept of video nasties.��O������The efforts in the UK were to look at extreme movies,�� �C�u@��IĆ�����and put a lot of these same boundaries�� ������ 3around these films��v�����Was you would around pornography titles.���C�u��I�b�ѡˁSo all of a sudden, you have the Evil Dead being treated the same way��;C�u@��I�K�����as a woman blowing a donkey.��v�����$This fear that, that people were watching stuff like�� ������Driller Killeron video in their homes��$C�u@��J ������and they couldn't be trusted with this material.�������� ZAnd it was opening up their dark side,���������and it would lead to copycat killings.��qC�u��J&������Horror and, and, and metal��������really became co-defendants���C�u@��J<�ơ��in the Satanic Panic scandal of the late 1980s, early '90s,��������R[Eric] People use that phrase "Satanic Panic."���C�u��JR������They always focus on the "Satanic" part.�� ������ dBut this was extreme or too extreme.�� �C�u��Jj������They never focus on the "Panic" part,�� ܠ���� �which is what it really was.���C�u��J1�ˡŁ-[people screaming] -[Eric] People overreacting, misdirected...��!C�u��J�������...and spending all their energy freaking out�� ������ �and not actually fixing a problem.��OC�u��J�������There was a real sense that if you watched�� 9����� these things or were exposed to these things,�� 3C�u@��J�y�Сʁit was dangerous, and it twisted you and it made you into a monster.�� >����� �Sometime around late 1984, early 1985,�� �C�u��J�������a group of wives in Washington DC,�� ������ Cwives of very influential people,���C�u@��J����business people, senators, congress people�� ��ǡ�� Cwere kind of having casual conversations about the concerns�� �C�u@��K�����about the content of music.��O������They thought the lyrics were, uh, too extreme.�� ������aThey thought videos that were recorded for songs���C�u��K#��š��were often too graphic to sexualize these type of things.�� ����� �And their solution for this���C�u@��K:�ˡŁwas to create a group called the Parents Music Resource Center.�� 3�ġ�� �They came up with this list, called "The Filthy Fifteen,"�� iC�u��KR٠����Half of that list is heavy metal artists.�� ⠺��� �So you had Black Sabbath. You had Judas Priest.�� _C�u��Kiv�����You had Moötley Cruüe, W.A.S.P., Venom,��)������AC/DC, Twisted Sister, Def Leppard, Mercyful Fate.���C�u��K�Š����It culminated in September of 1985,�� ��á�� iwith hearings before the U. S. Senate Commerce Committee�� �C�u@��K�l�����to decide what should be done about this.��T����� People went to jail over this stuff.���������People were sued, people had incredible legal bills�� C�u@��K�ߠ����because of this artwork they decided to put��������Pon the inside sleeve of an album.��O�����MI mean, it destroyed people.���C�u@��KԐ�����And it was all over nothing.��P������-You cannot legislate morality. -[man] Mr. Carter.�� Z�����-Or music, or people's minds. -[man] There is no--��OC�u@��K¡��-But we'll bring you down, man. -[man] I have a teenage��$������-daughter. -We're here. 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And metal bands�� ������ 4and movies give people a show. It's escapism.�� �C�u��N�<�ɡÁAs long as there are kids in their teens going through angst,���C�u@��N�|�����there's gonna be aggressive music,��q�����and there's gonna be aggressive imaging.�������� �So between horror movies and metal,�������� that certainly plays a big part in it.��)C�u@��O^�ơ��I think a lot of us in, who, who chose to play heavy metal,��������1uh, or hard rock are somewhat outcasts.�� �C�u��O1��š��And I think we kind of look at these monsters as, as too.���C�u@��OGi�����But there's something that draws us together.����¡���And f-- for me, that was one way of meeting people too.�� �C�u@��O^������Like, you're a horror fan. Great.��ҠΡȁ�We're gonna get along just great. You like metal? Oh. Even better.�� ݠ���� I think people wanna feel something.���C�u@��Ox3�����They wanna feel something powerful,��P������and fear is one of those things.��{�����'And, you know, listening to music is such an elation.���C�u@��O�ڠ����And metal, especially, is so, you know, so angry.�� ��á�� iWhen you're a kid, you know, that just feeling something�� C�u@��O�������is so important for people who are fans of,��v�����$of metal and horror.���������If you're the nerd in school, if you're having--�� C�u@��O�~�ȡyour parents are in your case, or the bullies beaten you up,�� ݠ���� �you can go watch a horror movie and, like, say like,�� .C�u@��O�堿���"If only this guy could be killed by Michael Myers."�� ��ˡŁ iOr listen to some heavy metal and just get that aggression out.�� �C�u@��O�ޠ����Or go into a wrestling character or something.��)�ǡ���And there is a certain element of show business that's dark.�� �C�u@��P#�����Heavy metal music, for the most part is, is made�� _�Сʁ ifor the same reasons that horror movies are made, it's to let loose.�� >C�u@��Px�����It's to free that fear, it's to free that tension.�� Y�ʡā You are in this moment with, with heavy metal music, you know?��GC�u@��P7u�����Like in the mosh pit.��F������You're just letting go of so much energy.����͡ǁ�And so much emotion that should just been sitting on you all day.�� C�u@��PS������You know, the escapism of heavy metal��נΡȁ �is the same as the escapism of just sitting down with your friends�� �C�u@��Pi������and watching a shit ton of fucking horror movies.�� Z�ʡā Which is honestly, there's nothing better than that, you know?���C�u@��P})�����Metal is violent. Horror is violent.��{�����)Everybody likes fucking violence.��K�����"Violence gets people's dicks hard.���C�u@��P��á��And when people's dicks are hard, they have fucking fun.�� Z�ǡ�� d-And then we chop them off. -And then we chop your dick off.�� �C�u@��P���ȡThere's some kind of an aggressive feeling in the music that�� >����� �kind of goes with that feeling of superiority.�� �C�u@��P��ɡÁThere's something very testosterone-driven about metal music.��ˠ����yAnd I think that if you're the killer,��)C�u��P�m�����if you're the monster,����ơ���you're in this place of massive total annihilating control.�� �C�u@��P���СʁAnd I think that that's one of the things that you feel as a player.�� Z����� [Nameless Ghoul] Rock and roll is the devil.��$������And horror is the devil too,��UC�u��Q������so it's perfectly natural.�� Y����� I think of heavy metal as really uncompromising.�� C�u@��Q(��աρYou know, there are plenty of people who don't like heavy metal. So what?�� >�ѡˁ �There are plenty of people who don't like horror movies, and so what?���C�u@��QG��ˡŁAnd I think that they share that sense of "We are what we are."��Ϡȡ}And the world we represent and are in is a very extreme one.��RC�u��Qiy��ہAnd it's not sweet and pretty like we'd like to pretend or some people wanna pretend.�� C�u@��Q����Horror and metal work so well together��#������because of teenage boys. [chuckles]�� .������We like scary stuff,���C�u@��Q�"�����and we like heavy stuff. It's exciting.���������The whole heavy metal sound again.��T������It's, uh, tempestuous guitars. A lot of them.���C�u��Q�I�����And the lyrics are usually��������some form of rebellion and death, uh... danger.��C�u@��Q۷�����And it's just slamming at you��$�ɡÁ�with a beat, with a great beat. I mean, who doesn't love that?�� ��աρ Pop music can be with chick flicks or, or, or things like that, you know,���C�u@��R��š��they just go hand in hand. But luckily, we got the horror.�� d�ɡÁ �[Jonathan] 'Cause I think it's just about ex-- being extreme.�� C�u@��R������Extreme gore, extreme being scared.��{�����)Extreme, it's just extreme.����ġ��yHorror fans and metal fans just are looking for that fix,�� �C�u@��R8_�����and that's what, you know, metal and horror does.����ȡ =You don't normally have extreme pop songs that shock people.��yC�u@�RTà����When you want something extreme,����̡ƁOyou take it to the highest level it can go, which is heavy metal.�� >C�u��Rh��ӡ́You can't just walk by a metal band playing and not, "Holy fuck! Whoa!"��qC�u@��R��١ӁYou know, no matter what kind of music do you like, horror is the same thing.�� ����� �We're the extreme edges of that art form.�� �C�u@��R�*�����It's a lot cooler in the outer limits. Join us.��H�á���I think there's a lot of, like, shock value with horror.�� 8C�u@��R������And I think with metal, it's also the same thing.�� �֡Ё �You wanna have that impact. They're gonna make you go to maybe a dark side���C�u@��R�`�����which everyone has and they don't like to go to.�� _����� But It's kind of make you realize��������Wthat this is a part of humanity that exists.�� C�u��R�w�����It's like all the dark,��{�����)unrestrained urges of destruction.�� �C�u��S������Yeah, you've got plenty of scary images.�� �������And the more you try and escape yourself,��OC�u@�SY�����the more you'll see.��󠞡��UIt just meshes well.��Ǡ�����You know, if you have extremely intense scene���C�u��S:Ƞ����in a horror film where it has to be hard-driving,�� 렪��� �scary and suspenseful and stuff,�� �C�u��SR������I think metal music works well with it.��͠����{That music is aggressive and can be in your face.��,C�u@��Sl�����And so can many good horror movies too.�� ��ǡ�� _If you're listening to a heavy metal album, it's a release.�� =C�u@��S�_�á��People are in the mosh pit, they're, they're working out��������Utheir angst in a horror movie.���������It's kind of the same thing. You see people getting,���C�u@��S�������you know, and you get all... [imitates pleasure]�� .����� �...and, uh, in the end, you know it's not real.��U������It's-- That's, I think, the bottom line.��C�u��S�������It's kind of like a fantasy.��P������A good heavy metal song...�� C�u@��Sɖ�����...should be like a good horror movie, you know?�� ������ dExciting to watch or listen to with a lot of dynamics.���C�u��S�}�����I'm not really sure where it's gonna take you,�������� Ybut once you get there, you're glad to be there.�� 4C�u��S�������People are curious about the morbid,��������Mskittish about the morbid,��{C�u@��T.�����and decided about the morbid,�� ����� �and what is considered morbid.�������� But their fans out there of extreme bands���C�u��T7i�����that play gore influence music,���š��}that I think would like to live that lifestyle or whatnot.���C�u��T[s�����So many different connections.�� ������ j[Sid] The music and the horror genre�� 8C�u��Tsà����are defiant against society, okay?�� 젩��� �And those things work together.��TC�u��T�_�����They're just totally opposed to anything conventional.��������The real hardcore horror fans are,�� _C�u@��T�7�ڡԁyou know, a niche. 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They kind of feel like a little bit�� /C�u@��T�Q�ԡ΁of an outcast and maybe don't get the attention or respect they deserve,��G�ȡ�and I think they kind of gravitate towards each other, some.�� .C�u��T�#�����[Tom] I did a music video with Dee Snider,��͠����{and Alice Cooper called "Be Chrool to Your Scuel."�� C�u@��T�c�̡ƁAnd Alice talks about Dee Snider and himself being hard fanatics.���������Every Saturday, they're at horror movies.���C�u��T�Q�����And so I see a connection in the heavy metal bands�� ݠ���� �of the people that I know and horror movies.�� �C�u@��Up�š��Horror is the dark side of, of, of movies or storytelling,��"�ȡ�and I think our music is the dark side of everything as well.�� �C�u@��U0������Heavy metal has always been dark.��J������There's no puppy dogs and ice cream in heavy metal.��{�ȡ!At least alive puppy dogs and ice cream without blood in it.�� CC�u@��UM������We want that aggression.��v�����$We want something that's almost, in a sense, scary.�� Z�����,You go to a Slayer show,��pC�u@��Ue�����and the anticipation of that band coming on�� Z�ݡׁ when you're standing on the floor, where you know that pit is going to break out,�� >C�u@��U{������is very similar to sitting in a movie theater,�� ����� �knowing that something's gonna happen��Ҡ����6that's gonna scare the shit out of me.���C�u��U�������As humans, I don't know why some of us crave�� ������ iand need that in our lives.���C�u��U�������But I'm just glad it's out there for us.�� 3����� �[chuckles]��@������Listen to the sound of metal.��{C�u��U�|�����It's so focused on tri tones�������� Zand tensions that, you know, it, it--�� dC�u@��U؛�����-What the fuck? -[man] We gotta go. Let's go.��$�ʡā�All right. Well, we have to go. And what I'm trying to tell you��)������is that the sound of metal, metal sounds terrifying.�� 9C�u@��U�+�����Movies are terrifying. That's the connection for me.�� �ȡ �[Rob] For some reason, those two genres maybe just connected���C�u��V :�����because they just, they get no respect.�� /����� �Which is fine because who cares? They're still here.���C�u@��V(������I think the future is a more cohesive bond.����ǡ���Especially as movies become more appreciative and respectful��0C�u��VL �����of, uh, rock and roll and heavy metal,��P�á���and industrial, all these different kinds of, uh, musics�� C�u@��Va͠����as a soundtrack to stories.��נڡԁ �I think when you take a look at the, uh, metal concept and the horror concept,���C�u@��V~ߠǡ��that they've intertwined so much over the last three decades����á���that they will never unwind. 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It'll never stop because those are the main genres��RC�u@��V�Ġ����that will appeal to, uh, the audience.�� 9�̡Ɓ �To keep the history alive, I think we need to embrace our fears.���C�u@��W�͡ǁIf you talk about exorcising the demons that are inside yourself,�� Šǡ��sthe best way to do that is to share them with other people.���C�u@��W��á��[Dani] I think metal and horror will always be with us.����ϡɁTAnd when it starts fizzling out, people start running out of ideas,��MC�u@��W5J�ʡāit would just, you know, like everything go around in a circle�� 砮��� �and we're back at square one again.�������bI think that horror and...�� C�u@��WV��á��...heavy metal music are going to stay together forever.��������There's that angst that everybody is drawn to.���C�u��WwA�����These very dark images.�� ������ _I think it's just,����� just going to stay here forever.��vC�u��W�g�����And there you have it.���������Metal and horror, a perfect match.���C�u��W�򠘡��Any questions?����ѡˁ .Um, a crossover between the two is fascinating and definitely unique.���C�u@��WҌ�����Those attracted to the dark and aggressive����á���clearly found their outlets for expression and pleasure.�� �C�u��W�p�����The two art forms go hand in hand, without question.�� 8������Well, I'm happy to hear you say that.��$C�u��XԠ����Your lesson is now complete.�� _������So what happens now?�� .C�u��X ������I give you the grand finale.�� �������What's the grand finale?��C�u��XCn�����[eerie music]�� dC�u��X`ؠ����[music increases and fades out]���C�u��Xu������[scary music]��lC�u��X������Hello,��@������from the other side.��C�u��X�.�����[wet swipes]��{�����)[evil laugh]���C�u��Y ������[heavy metal music]�� C�u@��YIi�����I just always liked being scared.��͠����{I like the creativity that's behind,��v������uh, being able to scare somebody.��$C�u@��Y_ڠ����Always loved a really good horror movie that could��E������kind of stick with you afterwards.��K����� �I just grew up watching that stuff at very young age�� 8C�u@��Yx��ӡ́I know it's not very, you know, a "good parent thing to do." 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