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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:21,266 Adrian primeaux: To me, peyote is a very intimate 2 00:00:21,266 --> 00:00:22,700 medicinal herb. 3 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:24,600 Albert Garcia-romeu: Psychedelic-assisted treatments 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,333 allow us to reinvent ourselves. 5 00:00:26,333 --> 00:00:28,733 Yasmin hurd: They're allowing the brain 6 00:00:28,733 --> 00:00:30,500 to see itself. 7 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:34,466 Narrator: In the 1960s, psychedelic drugs were famous 8 00:00:34,466 --> 00:00:37,600 for their mind-bending recreational effects, 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,233 but today, they might offer hope for treating 10 00:00:40,233 --> 00:00:42,100 devastating conditions 11 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:46,033 from addiction, to PTSD, to depression. 12 00:00:46,033 --> 00:00:47,566 Len Campbell: I didn't take psilocybin 13 00:00:47,566 --> 00:00:48,800 to go find martians. 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,066 I needed to work with scientists 15 00:00:52,066 --> 00:00:53,600 to be able to stop smoking cigarettes. 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,566 And it worked. 17 00:00:55,566 --> 00:01:00,533 Evan Craig: I was on antidepressants for about four years prior. 18 00:01:00,533 --> 00:01:02,266 And I haven't been on any since. 19 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:04,966 I haven't felt sadness. 20 00:01:04,966 --> 00:01:08,033 Narrator: How is this possible? 21 00:01:08,033 --> 00:01:10,766 Scientists are searching for answers within the brain, 22 00:01:10,766 --> 00:01:13,600 where psychedelics alter consciousness 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,433 and can open the mind to positive change. 24 00:01:17,433 --> 00:01:20,200 It's like reprogramming the operating system of a computer. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,800 You're getting down to very basic, code-level changes. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Fred Barrett: We observe a radical change 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,066 in the way that brain regions talk to each other. 28 00:01:30,066 --> 00:01:33,533 Bill Richards: It's not only that these states of consciousness 29 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:36,700 are beautiful and inspiring. 30 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:39,866 They seem to have therapeutic power. 31 00:01:39,866 --> 00:01:42,066 Kathleen kral: The psilocybin 32 00:01:42,066 --> 00:01:46,833 shifted my perception from negativity to positivity. 33 00:01:46,833 --> 00:01:49,566 Narrator: The research is cutting-edge, 34 00:01:49,566 --> 00:01:53,200 but early results from clinical trials offer hope. 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,533 Scott ostrom: You don't forget 36 00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:55,666 the breakthrough moments that you had, 37 00:01:55,666 --> 00:01:57,766 and you don't forget what you learned. 38 00:01:57,766 --> 00:01:59,266 They stay a part of you. 39 00:01:59,266 --> 00:02:00,700 Jon kostas: I haven't drank since 40 00:02:00,700 --> 00:02:02,066 my very first session. 41 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:04,666 It worked almost like an antibiotic, 42 00:02:04,666 --> 00:02:06,333 where I did this treatment 43 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:08,066 and then I was done. 44 00:02:08,066 --> 00:02:11,300 Narrator: "Can psychedelics cure?" 45 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:13,566 Right now, on "nova." 46 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:38,000 Narrator: Psychedelics: LSD, magic mushrooms, peyote. 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,566 These powerful, mind-expanding substances 48 00:02:40,566 --> 00:02:44,200 fueled the '60s counter-culture. 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:50,266 For some, they're powerfully transformative-- even spiritual. 50 00:02:50,266 --> 00:02:52,600 Campbell: It was a spiritual experience 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,266 that I'd never had in my life. 52 00:02:54,266 --> 00:02:58,666 It has probably changed me forever. 53 00:02:58,666 --> 00:03:02,433 Narrator: But for others, terrifying and dangerous. 54 00:03:02,433 --> 00:03:06,000 Marcela ot'alora g.: They felt that I was having a psychotic episode. 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,966 I was hospitalized. 56 00:03:07,966 --> 00:03:11,833 Narrator: And ultimately, they were criminalized. 57 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:13,866 Richard Nixon: We must wage total war against 58 00:03:13,866 --> 00:03:15,233 public enemy number one, 59 00:03:15,233 --> 00:03:16,966 the problem of dangerous drugs. 60 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:20,900 Narrator: But today, a growing number of clinicians 61 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:23,266 argue that there's another side to psychedelics. 62 00:03:23,266 --> 00:03:25,400 Manish agrawal: The psilocybin therapy 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,366 has been the most powerful tool I've seen. 64 00:03:27,366 --> 00:03:28,866 I said, "wow. 65 00:03:28,866 --> 00:03:33,200 "I feel like I've been treating trauma with stone tools, 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,833 and there's the state-of-the-art treatment." 67 00:03:34,833 --> 00:03:37,066 Narrator: That they have the potential 68 00:03:37,066 --> 00:03:39,200 to heal the mind as a treatment 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,566 for addiction, depression, and PTSD. 70 00:03:42,566 --> 00:03:44,866 Robin carhart-Harris: They have this big effect, 71 00:03:44,866 --> 00:03:46,866 opening the mind and the brain up 72 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:48,700 for change. 73 00:03:48,700 --> 00:03:50,500 The good that can come out of 74 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:53,000 the responsible use of these substances 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,533 is quite amazing, really. 76 00:03:57,333 --> 00:03:59,566 Narrator: It's an about-face that few saw coming. 77 00:03:59,566 --> 00:04:02,100 Rachel Yehuda: How do you shift from a position of, 78 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:04,733 "these drugs are illegal, 79 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:07,400 these drugs are bad for you," 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,033 to, "these drugs are therapeutic, 81 00:04:11,033 --> 00:04:12,600 "this is the way that you heal 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,966 from mental illness"? 83 00:04:14,966 --> 00:04:16,400 Narrator: What are these drugs doing to patients' minds 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,166 to give some doctors such hope for their potential? 85 00:04:30,433 --> 00:04:34,133 Kostas: I grew up in New York City. 86 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:38,466 It was fairly easy to, to get access to alcohol, 87 00:04:38,466 --> 00:04:43,633 through friends, we'd go to a corner deli. 88 00:04:43,633 --> 00:04:47,933 And that all started probably around 12, 13 years old. 89 00:04:47,933 --> 00:04:51,600 It would take a couple of drinks to feel anything 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,833 or feel good. 91 00:04:52,833 --> 00:04:54,666 But then, a couple of years later, 92 00:04:54,666 --> 00:04:55,666 those two drinks wouldn't cut it, 93 00:04:55,666 --> 00:04:57,566 or three drinks wouldn't cut it, 94 00:04:57,566 --> 00:05:02,233 and I'd need more to get to where I was before, 95 00:05:02,233 --> 00:05:03,700 when I first started drinking. 96 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:07,066 I wouldn't drink every night. 97 00:05:07,066 --> 00:05:11,233 I was more of a binge drinker, so I'd pick my battles. 98 00:05:11,233 --> 00:05:13,200 But during one of those nights, 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,333 it would be about 23 drinks in a night. 100 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:22,700 Narrator: Over the years, Jon kostas struggled to quit. 101 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:25,866 Kostas: I went to my first aa meeting at 16. 102 00:05:25,866 --> 00:05:28,700 I tried aa for years. 103 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:31,033 I tried rehab. 104 00:05:31,033 --> 00:05:34,600 I tried different pharmaceutical drugs. 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,300 I've been practicing psychiatry for 21 years, 106 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:40,500 focusing on addiction. 107 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:42,700 And Jon came to me in his early 20s, 108 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:45,800 and he probably was the worst case of alcohol use disorder 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,933 I'd ever seen for someone his age. 110 00:05:47,933 --> 00:05:50,200 He'd go on these terrible benders that he was starting 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,833 to experience alcohol withdrawal, 112 00:05:51,833 --> 00:05:54,333 which is very rare for somebody in their early 20s, 113 00:05:54,333 --> 00:05:57,133 and I was very scared that he was going to have 114 00:05:57,133 --> 00:06:00,366 a premature death because of how much he was drinking. 115 00:06:00,366 --> 00:06:04,300 Narrator: Worried that Jon was at risk of death, 116 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:07,633 psychiatrist Stephen Ross helped him enroll in a clinical trial 117 00:06:07,633 --> 00:06:09,733 at n.Y.U. With his colleague 118 00:06:09,733 --> 00:06:11,500 psychiatrist Michael bogenschutz, 119 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:15,133 who was testing a controversial experimental treatment 120 00:06:15,133 --> 00:06:16,466 for alcohol use disorder 121 00:06:16,466 --> 00:06:19,600 using psychedelics. 122 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,466 During a series of carefully designed therapy sessions 123 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:28,566 over 12 weeks, Jon received two doses of a hallucinogenic drug. 124 00:06:28,566 --> 00:06:32,233 His addiction to a recreational drug 125 00:06:32,233 --> 00:06:34,566 would be treated with what most people think of 126 00:06:34,566 --> 00:06:38,566 as another recreational drug, psilocybin, 127 00:06:38,566 --> 00:06:41,400 which is classified as a schedule one narcotic, 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,233 right alongside heroin. 129 00:06:46,366 --> 00:06:47,900 Psilocybin is the mind-altering 130 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:52,233 molecule found in magic mushrooms. 131 00:06:52,233 --> 00:06:55,000 They were introduced to American popular culture 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,533 in 1957 by a wall street banker named r. Gordon wasson, 133 00:07:00,533 --> 00:07:03,433 who wrote about them in an article for "life" magazine. 134 00:07:03,433 --> 00:07:07,366 These fungi have been used by indigenous peoples 135 00:07:07,366 --> 00:07:10,766 in the Americas for thousands of years. 136 00:07:10,766 --> 00:07:14,700 Psilocybin is just one of a family of substances 137 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:17,933 often called psychedelics. 138 00:07:17,933 --> 00:07:19,733 They include mescaline, 139 00:07:19,733 --> 00:07:22,600 found in the north American cactus peyote, 140 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,500 as well as synthetic chemicals like LSD and mdma. 141 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:30,933 Users report that these drugs bring about 142 00:07:30,933 --> 00:07:33,100 an altered state of consciousness, 143 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:35,400 sometimes accompanied by hallucinations 144 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,800 or heightened sensitivity to colors, sounds, and patterns. 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,033 Barrett: The entire range of possible 146 00:07:42,033 --> 00:07:44,100 visual experiences can be encountered. 147 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:47,333 Walls breathing, illusory movement-- 148 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:48,500 seeing movement in a carpet 149 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,400 when the carpet's not really moving. 150 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Narrator: Many also report a loss of ego accompanied by 151 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,966 profound feelings of empathy and connection to others, 152 00:07:58,966 --> 00:08:02,066 even the entire universe. 153 00:08:02,066 --> 00:08:05,333 And what's perhaps most unusual about these drugs 154 00:08:05,333 --> 00:08:08,700 is that after the experience of the so-called trip, 155 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:12,566 users often feel changed in positive ways. 156 00:08:12,566 --> 00:08:15,500 Though there are clear differences 157 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:19,766 between psychedelics, they all, with the exception of mdma, 158 00:08:19,766 --> 00:08:22,600 act in a similar way in the brain. 159 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,433 Each of the active molecules fits like a key into a lock 160 00:08:27,433 --> 00:08:30,466 by binding to a specific protein in the nerve cells 161 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:34,333 of the human brain called the serotonin 2A receptor, 162 00:08:34,333 --> 00:08:40,733 and this can alter perceptions and even consciousness itself. 163 00:08:40,733 --> 00:08:41,866 And that's central for producing 164 00:08:41,866 --> 00:08:43,033 their subjective states, 165 00:08:43,033 --> 00:08:44,733 including mystical states of consciousness 166 00:08:44,733 --> 00:08:46,966 and these unusual states of mind. 167 00:08:48,966 --> 00:08:50,466 Narrator: The drugs are very powerful. 168 00:08:50,466 --> 00:08:51,900 And for some people, 169 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:55,633 the experience of going on a consciousness-altering trip 170 00:08:55,633 --> 00:08:57,000 that they can't control or stop 171 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,533 can be very challenging or frightening. 172 00:09:00,533 --> 00:09:01,766 Kostas: I was afraid of psychedelics. 173 00:09:01,766 --> 00:09:05,366 I never experimented with them growing up 174 00:09:05,366 --> 00:09:06,900 because I was too afraid. 175 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:09,933 I heard all the bad stories of having a bad trip, 176 00:09:09,933 --> 00:09:13,100 or I thought I could go permanently crazy. 177 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:15,833 Or if you stare at the sun, you'll go blind. 178 00:09:15,833 --> 00:09:17,866 And so, when I raised those concerns 179 00:09:17,866 --> 00:09:20,333 with the doctors at n.Y.U., 180 00:09:20,333 --> 00:09:24,233 they said, "listen, that's totally normal going into it, 181 00:09:24,233 --> 00:09:27,166 "but this is incredibly safe to do. 182 00:09:27,166 --> 00:09:30,366 "We've already properly screened you, 183 00:09:30,366 --> 00:09:32,900 "and you're mentally and physically fit 184 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:34,533 to go through this." 185 00:09:34,533 --> 00:09:36,066 Narrator: Patients with a personal 186 00:09:36,066 --> 00:09:39,866 or family history of psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia, 187 00:09:39,866 --> 00:09:44,200 bipolar, or psychotic disorders are deemed to be too at risk 188 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,266 for the treatment. 189 00:09:46,266 --> 00:09:47,400 Bogenschutz: There's a possibility that 190 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,066 classic psychedelics could precipitate 191 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:52,566 a psychotic episode or a psychotic disorder 192 00:09:52,566 --> 00:09:55,000 in someone who was predisposed. 193 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,866 And that hasn't happened in any of the trials to date, 194 00:09:57,866 --> 00:10:00,500 but it, you know, it remains a concern. 195 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:04,066 Would you like to state your intention for... 196 00:10:04,066 --> 00:10:05,466 Narrator: In trials like this one, 197 00:10:05,466 --> 00:10:08,966 the drug is part of a larger plan to help participants 198 00:10:08,966 --> 00:10:10,400 address specific issues, 199 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,933 and each psychedelic trip is facilitated by a therapist. 200 00:10:16,666 --> 00:10:20,000 When Jon took his first psilocybin trip in an effort 201 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,233 to curb his cravings 202 00:10:21,233 --> 00:10:25,433 for alcohol, the experience was powerful. 203 00:10:25,433 --> 00:10:27,433 Kostas: There were a few monumental experiences 204 00:10:27,433 --> 00:10:32,033 that I saw during this. 205 00:10:34,433 --> 00:10:35,666 There was a glass bottle, 206 00:10:35,666 --> 00:10:39,933 a liquor bottle, in the middle of the desert, 207 00:10:39,933 --> 00:10:45,533 and all of a sudden, the glass disintegrated into the sand, 208 00:10:45,533 --> 00:10:48,566 back into the desert, and just vanished. 209 00:10:48,566 --> 00:10:53,033 And I thought that was pretty powerful symbolism 210 00:10:53,033 --> 00:10:55,133 that my addiction was leaving me. 211 00:10:55,133 --> 00:11:00,666 And pretty much after that, I had felt this is going to work. 212 00:11:02,566 --> 00:11:07,300 Narrator: Jon stopped drinking after his first dosing session. 213 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:09,500 Kostas: It worked almost like an antibiotic, 214 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:12,233 where I was sick, I had a disease, 215 00:11:12,233 --> 00:11:14,633 I went in, saw the doctors, 216 00:11:14,633 --> 00:11:15,633 did this treatment, 217 00:11:15,633 --> 00:11:17,600 and then I was done. 218 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,200 I don't have to see doctors. 219 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,900 I'm not on any, prescriptions. 220 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:23,566 I don't go to any support groups. 221 00:11:23,566 --> 00:11:26,300 I live without the addiction, 222 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:29,033 which I never thought would be possible. 223 00:11:30,733 --> 00:11:33,766 Narrator: The n.Y.U. Study recruited 93 patients who were 224 00:11:33,766 --> 00:11:37,400 randomly assigned psilocybin or a placebo. 225 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,066 All the participants received psychotherapy 226 00:11:40,066 --> 00:11:41,933 over the 12-week treatment period. 227 00:11:41,933 --> 00:11:46,100 Jon's case is particularly dramatic. 228 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:49,466 But the results overall have been encouraging. 229 00:11:49,466 --> 00:11:50,766 Ross: The psilocybin plus 230 00:11:50,766 --> 00:11:53,866 psychotherapy group had a 50% reduction in drinking 231 00:11:53,866 --> 00:11:56,433 compared to just the group that got psychotherapy alone. 232 00:11:56,433 --> 00:11:58,900 Bogenschutz: It's a large difference, 233 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:01,166 it's a clinically meaningful difference, 234 00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:03,833 and if these effects sizes hold up, 235 00:12:03,833 --> 00:12:05,266 it's a much larger effect 236 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:08,766 than we've seen in any of the medications 237 00:12:08,766 --> 00:12:12,233 that are currently approved for alcohol use disorder. 238 00:12:13,766 --> 00:12:15,633 Narrator: Doctors are trying to understand 239 00:12:15,633 --> 00:12:18,066 why psychedelic-assisted therapy might be more effective 240 00:12:18,066 --> 00:12:21,100 than currently available treatments. 241 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:23,066 They think that the key difference may be 242 00:12:23,066 --> 00:12:26,433 in the way that psychedelics can allow the brain to change, 243 00:12:26,433 --> 00:12:30,200 rather than simply suppressing symptoms such as craving. 244 00:12:33,466 --> 00:12:36,266 Our brains are composed of billions of nerve cells 245 00:12:36,266 --> 00:12:38,666 that branch out like trees. 246 00:12:38,666 --> 00:12:41,100 They carry messages between each other 247 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,666 and connect different regions, which are like departments 248 00:12:43,666 --> 00:12:46,233 with different functions. 249 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:48,500 Such as the amygdala, the department where 250 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:52,100 the emotions associated with memories are stored. 251 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:56,600 The striatum, the office of reward and habitual behavior. 252 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,366 And at the highest level, the prefrontal cortex, 253 00:13:00,366 --> 00:13:04,933 like a front office overseeing them all and making decisions. 254 00:13:04,933 --> 00:13:08,333 So, in the normal brain, you can say especially 255 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:11,366 in, in adults, the prefrontal cortex 256 00:13:11,366 --> 00:13:13,100 has this top-down control. 257 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:18,766 We control our emotions, we control, you know, 258 00:13:18,766 --> 00:13:20,933 our, our habits, through very strong 259 00:13:20,933 --> 00:13:25,133 prefrontal cortical activity. 260 00:13:25,133 --> 00:13:26,400 Narrator: Yasmin hurd is a neuroscientist 261 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,266 who studies the effects of drugs on the brain. 262 00:13:30,266 --> 00:13:34,400 She's found that alcohol can erode the nerve cells 263 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,800 that connect departments. 264 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,166 Hurd: With alcohol, these branches retract. 265 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:40,400 They shrink. 266 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,600 And that then diminishes communication 267 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,933 between the brain regions. 268 00:13:44,933 --> 00:13:48,700 So, the amygdala is much more hypersensitive 269 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:52,400 to context associated with the, the drug, such as alcohol. 270 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 It's, like, acting on its own. 271 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,200 Narrator: If the amygdala goes rogue, 272 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,800 the result can be irresistible cravings leading to decisions 273 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,400 that put alcohol ahead of everything else, 274 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,466 even ignoring pleas from the front office to stop. 275 00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:12,633 Habitual behavior takes over. 276 00:14:12,633 --> 00:14:16,733 They stop thinking about what may be the bad outcome. 277 00:14:16,733 --> 00:14:18,400 So their executive control is diminished. 278 00:14:21,566 --> 00:14:24,700 Narrator: But when Jon took psilocybin, 279 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:27,733 he seemed to get control over his cravings. 280 00:14:27,733 --> 00:14:32,033 Somehow, the front office re-established its authority. 281 00:14:32,033 --> 00:14:37,000 The research is still early, but scientists do know 282 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,400 that psychedelics activate specific serotonin receptors 283 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,366 in the brain involved in mood 284 00:14:42,366 --> 00:14:45,133 and unusual states of consciousness. 285 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:49,633 One idea is that activating these receptors may also lead 286 00:14:49,633 --> 00:14:53,566 to new nerve cell connections-- even growth. 287 00:14:53,566 --> 00:14:56,933 Perhaps that is the key. 288 00:14:56,933 --> 00:15:00,900 Hurd: It's hypothesized that psychedelics will restore 289 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:04,400 the branches in these trees 290 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,833 that we know are impacted by alcohol use disorder. 291 00:15:08,833 --> 00:15:13,100 So, by restoring and allowing the branches to grow again, 292 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:16,466 that improves communication once again in the brain. 293 00:15:16,466 --> 00:15:20,066 Narrator: But stimulating serotonin receptors 294 00:15:20,066 --> 00:15:22,500 or expanding nerve cell connections 295 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:25,400 can't be the full explanation. 296 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,633 After all, the drug cocaine also increases 297 00:15:28,633 --> 00:15:30,600 nerve cell connections. 298 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,100 But there may be a critical difference. 299 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,466 Hurd: Cocaine will also increase the projections, these branches, 300 00:15:37,466 --> 00:15:38,866 but it's too many. 301 00:15:38,866 --> 00:15:41,633 One thing about how psychedelics are used 302 00:15:41,633 --> 00:15:45,933 as compared to cocaine, is that cocaine, it's habitual behavior. 303 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:47,233 They're using it chronically. 304 00:15:47,233 --> 00:15:49,766 It can produce perhaps too much growth. 305 00:15:49,766 --> 00:15:53,900 So, with psychedelics, it seems that the growth may be, 306 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:55,666 you know, it's not too much, it's not too little-- 307 00:15:55,666 --> 00:15:57,066 it's just right. 308 00:15:57,066 --> 00:16:00,700 Like the goldilocks effect, in a way. 309 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:03,766 Narrator: One factor that Jon attributes his sobriety to 310 00:16:03,766 --> 00:16:07,033 is the mystical experience he went through, 311 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:11,600 which is often a hallmark of a psychedelic journey. 312 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,133 Kostas: Something definitely happened, 313 00:16:13,133 --> 00:16:15,966 because my relationship with alcohol changed. 314 00:16:15,966 --> 00:16:17,500 And I don't think about it 315 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:23,000 and have the same emotions I used to have towards alcohol. 316 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,300 Roland griffiths: People ended up 317 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:28,700 having experiences that they rated as among 318 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:29,933 the most personally meaningful 319 00:16:29,933 --> 00:16:32,600 and spiritually significant experiences 320 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,366 of their entire lifetimes. 321 00:16:35,366 --> 00:16:38,566 And I think that's a really important element 322 00:16:38,566 --> 00:16:43,400 that kind of stamps in the enduring attributions 323 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,166 made to these experiences. 324 00:16:46,166 --> 00:16:48,433 Because they're profound experiences 325 00:16:48,433 --> 00:16:52,400 felt to be precious, felt to be absolutely true. 326 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,233 And that accounts for why, months, years later, 327 00:16:56,233 --> 00:16:59,666 people are often reflecting back on that experience 328 00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:01,800 and can tap in and draw from it. 329 00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:07,633 Narrator: The idea that one or two doses of a mind-altering drug 330 00:17:07,633 --> 00:17:10,666 could create such a profound impact 331 00:17:10,666 --> 00:17:13,566 with potentially beneficial results is not new. 332 00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:16,000 Western medical research into psychedelics 333 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,700 began in the 1940s, not long after 334 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:22,833 the accidental discovery of lysergic acid diethylamide, 335 00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:24,433 or LSD. 336 00:17:24,433 --> 00:17:29,300 In 1943, Swiss chemist Albert hofmann was working with ergot, 337 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:33,366 a potentially poisonous fungus sometimes found on wheat, oats, 338 00:17:33,366 --> 00:17:36,266 and rye, which had been used for medicinal purposes 339 00:17:36,266 --> 00:17:38,233 for centuries. 340 00:17:38,233 --> 00:17:41,866 Ergot poisoning was known to constrict blood vessels. 341 00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:44,900 Hofmann was hoping to isolate a chemical compound 342 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:48,100 that would reduce the risk of fatal bleeding in childbirth. 343 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:51,400 In the process, he accidentally absorbed 344 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,733 a miniscule amount of LSD, 345 00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:55,700 possibly through his fingertips, 346 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:59,033 ultimately launching him on what some would call 347 00:17:59,033 --> 00:18:03,333 the world's first acid trip. 348 00:18:03,333 --> 00:18:07,666 "Kaleidoscopic, fantastic images surged in on me, 349 00:18:07,666 --> 00:18:10,700 "alternating, variegated, opening 350 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:14,433 "and then closing themselves in circles and spirals, 351 00:18:14,433 --> 00:18:18,400 "exploding in colored fountains, rearranging and hybridizing 352 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,266 themselves in a constant flux." 353 00:18:22,266 --> 00:18:26,166 Word got out about this mind-expanding substance, 354 00:18:26,166 --> 00:18:29,033 and the lab began synthesizing and shipping samples 355 00:18:29,033 --> 00:18:31,166 to research centers around the world. 356 00:18:31,166 --> 00:18:35,933 Initially, scientists thought psychedelics like LSD 357 00:18:35,933 --> 00:18:38,033 could be used to explore schizophrenia, 358 00:18:38,033 --> 00:18:40,800 since a person's tripping experience mimicked 359 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,966 some aspects of psychosis. 360 00:18:43,966 --> 00:18:46,066 But then they observed that some patients, 361 00:18:46,066 --> 00:18:48,766 including those with alcohol use disorder, 362 00:18:48,766 --> 00:18:50,300 reported feelings of transcendence 363 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:55,266 or spiritual epiphanies that helped them to quit drinking. 364 00:18:55,266 --> 00:18:57,400 I was so curious that the most studied indication 365 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,166 was the use of LSD to treat alcoholism. 366 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:02,800 It turns out there was this huge body of research 367 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,466 from the 1940s to the 1970s. 368 00:19:06,466 --> 00:19:08,000 And it was a big part of psychiatry. 369 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,700 There were 40,000 participants treated. 370 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,533 It was hailed as a wonder drug. 371 00:19:12,533 --> 00:19:15,200 Narrator: But as scientific research continued, 372 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,066 some efforts took a dark turn. 373 00:19:19,066 --> 00:19:22,766 The c.I.A. Attempted to weaponize LSD 374 00:19:22,766 --> 00:19:25,666 with top secret projects like mkultra, 375 00:19:25,666 --> 00:19:28,433 in which they experimented on volunteers 376 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:31,500 and unsuspecting government employees to see if minds 377 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:36,400 could be controlled, memories erased, people programmed. 378 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,866 And then LSD escaped the lab. 379 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:48,333 Ken kesey, the author of "one flew over the cuckoo's nest," 380 00:19:48,333 --> 00:19:52,866 was one of the c.I.A. Research volunteers. 381 00:19:52,866 --> 00:19:55,966 Rick doblin: Ken kesey first got exposed to LSD in a c.I.A. Experiment. 382 00:19:55,966 --> 00:19:58,733 And then later, he became one of the leaders 383 00:19:58,733 --> 00:20:00,266 of the hippies. 384 00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:02,766 You know, he helped the grateful dead, began at the acid tests, 385 00:20:02,766 --> 00:20:05,233 the merry pranksters. 386 00:20:05,233 --> 00:20:07,966 So, the history of the c.I.A., and the mind control, 387 00:20:07,966 --> 00:20:10,533 and the nefarious uses of psychedelics, are interwoven 388 00:20:10,533 --> 00:20:13,800 into the cultural story of psychedelics. 389 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,533 The first experience I had was with 390 00:20:16,533 --> 00:20:18,266 seven little mushrooms in Mexico. 391 00:20:18,266 --> 00:20:22,133 Narrator: In 1966, the former Harvard psychology professor 392 00:20:22,133 --> 00:20:23,500 Timothy leary 393 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:27,833 promoted psychedelic drugs as a means of personal 394 00:20:27,833 --> 00:20:29,700 and cultural transformation, urging youth to... 395 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:34,100 Turn on, tune in, drop out. 396 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:37,266 Ross: Timothy leary became the pied Piper of psychedelics. 397 00:20:37,266 --> 00:20:41,633 And it so alarmed the Nixon government at the time, 398 00:20:41,633 --> 00:20:44,366 Nixon declared Timothy leary the most dangerous man in america, 399 00:20:44,366 --> 00:20:47,200 declared war on drugs. 400 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,333 America's public enemy number one is drug abuse. 401 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,333 And enacted the controlled substance act in 1970, 402 00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:55,366 which kind of erased them from the history books. 403 00:20:58,066 --> 00:21:01,233 Narrator: The act classified drugs like heroin, cannabis, 404 00:21:01,233 --> 00:21:02,666 and psychedelics as having 405 00:21:02,666 --> 00:21:04,766 the highest potential for addiction and abuse. 406 00:21:04,766 --> 00:21:07,600 Ross: The whole war on drugs 407 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,433 wasn't really a war against, like, 408 00:21:09,433 --> 00:21:11,666 stopping people from using drugs. 409 00:21:11,666 --> 00:21:13,433 If you declare war on drugs, you should declare war 410 00:21:13,433 --> 00:21:15,466 on alcohol and tobacco, the most damaging ones. 411 00:21:15,466 --> 00:21:18,200 They were absented from the controlled substance act. 412 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,133 He went after psychedelics, 413 00:21:20,133 --> 00:21:21,566 which are really not addictive at all. 414 00:21:23,133 --> 00:21:26,066 Narrator: The latest revelations about the benefits 415 00:21:26,066 --> 00:21:28,933 aren't surprising to many indigenous populations, 416 00:21:28,933 --> 00:21:31,100 who have venerated plant-based psychedelics 417 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,733 for thousands of years. 418 00:21:33,733 --> 00:21:37,266 In many cultures, psychedelics have been used 419 00:21:37,266 --> 00:21:39,600 in rites of passage and to gain wisdom-- 420 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,566 usually administered in specific 421 00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:46,100 religious and healing ceremonies. 422 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:48,666 In North America, 423 00:21:48,666 --> 00:21:52,066 some indigenous peoples use peyote, 424 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:54,333 a cactus that grows in northern Mexico 425 00:21:54,333 --> 00:21:56,933 and a small region of south Texas. 426 00:21:56,933 --> 00:22:00,400 Primeaux: I am Adrian primeaux. 427 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,466 I come from five generations of peyote people, 428 00:22:05,466 --> 00:22:07,000 myself being the sixth and then my son 429 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,766 being the seventh generation. 430 00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:15,100 To me, 431 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:18,966 peyote is a very intimate medicinal herb. 432 00:22:18,966 --> 00:22:22,700 We use it as a guide, we use it as a means 433 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:24,133 to synchronize with the universe. 434 00:22:24,133 --> 00:22:28,033 My grandparents explained to me at a very young age 435 00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:32,500 that we could acquire any means of success through medicine 436 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,933 and peyote if we approached it with the right intent. 437 00:22:35,933 --> 00:22:40,700 Narrator: Peyote use can touch on many aspects of life. 438 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:44,366 Primeaux: How this medicine is able to heal, 439 00:22:44,366 --> 00:22:47,833 there's a lot of complex facets. 440 00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:51,000 Within indigenous forms of thought, we believe that, 441 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,800 like, the spirit exists somewhere 442 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,133 back there in the subconscious, it's connected to the universe. 443 00:22:56,133 --> 00:23:00,833 So, this plant medicines helps you reach those depths 444 00:23:00,833 --> 00:23:04,100 of your ability to manifest whatever it is 445 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,466 you can picture in your mind. 446 00:23:05,466 --> 00:23:08,300 Maybe you're picturing pain going away. 447 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,566 Maybe you're picturing your cancer going away. 448 00:23:10,566 --> 00:23:12,400 Maybe you're picturing your body being healthy. 449 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,566 Maybe you're picturing education. 450 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:15,566 Whatever it is that you're picturing, 451 00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:19,600 your subconscious brain has that power to create that for you. 452 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,366 And this medicine is just a tool to help you 453 00:23:22,366 --> 00:23:24,366 to reach that point. 454 00:23:26,766 --> 00:23:29,833 Hurd: When we think about how native people 455 00:23:29,833 --> 00:23:31,800 have used these substances, 456 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,200 it was a ritual. 457 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,466 So there's something still really important 458 00:23:36,466 --> 00:23:39,700 about the setting, the ritualistic aspect. 459 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:42,466 That you can see this positive outcome, 460 00:23:42,466 --> 00:23:46,066 you can hear the positivity around you. 461 00:23:46,066 --> 00:23:49,200 All of that then gets encoded into the brain 462 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,933 in a manner that, when you're not 463 00:23:51,933 --> 00:23:53,233 in that hallucinogenic state, 464 00:23:53,233 --> 00:23:54,600 it still stays with you. 465 00:23:56,366 --> 00:24:03,033 Narrator: A peyote cactus can take over ten years to reach maturity. 466 00:24:03,033 --> 00:24:05,833 Since the arrival of Europeans, native American tribes 467 00:24:05,833 --> 00:24:08,033 have often been persecuted for peyote use 468 00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:10,000 and had limited access to the plant. 469 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,766 Now commercial interests and poachers are putting 470 00:24:13,766 --> 00:24:18,066 pressure on peyote's fragile ecosystem. 471 00:24:20,166 --> 00:24:23,600 Recently, a philanthropist purchased 605 acres 472 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000 of peyote land here in south Texas 473 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000 to provide access for members of the native American church, 474 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,766 which teaches native American traditions, 475 00:24:31,766 --> 00:24:34,166 sometimes elements of christianity, 476 00:24:34,166 --> 00:24:37,066 and regards peyote as a sacrament. 477 00:24:37,066 --> 00:24:38,366 Steven benally: In order to 478 00:24:38,366 --> 00:24:42,833 assure that this medicine is going to be available, 479 00:24:42,833 --> 00:24:45,200 we have to have some kind of 480 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,633 direct connection with this land. 481 00:24:50,633 --> 00:24:53,600 And this land, I think, is an answer to a prayer 482 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,433 from years ago 483 00:24:55,433 --> 00:25:00,200 that there will be medicine for our children. 484 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:07,166 Sandor iron rope: This land now means the world to all of us. 485 00:25:07,166 --> 00:25:10,433 Mother earth and what she has provided us. 486 00:25:10,433 --> 00:25:12,033 This represents the future. 487 00:25:12,033 --> 00:25:15,500 It's about what you are gonna teach your children, 488 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:17,166 your grandchildren, 489 00:25:17,166 --> 00:25:19,166 and what you're gonna leave behind. 490 00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:23,400 The essence of, of generational responsibilities, you know. 491 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,533 Words cannot suffice what the spirit feels 492 00:25:27,533 --> 00:25:31,033 in connecting with this land. 493 00:25:31,033 --> 00:25:36,433 Narrator: Psychedelic-assisted therapy is still in its early stages, 494 00:25:36,433 --> 00:25:39,933 but scientists are inspired by indigenous practitioners' 495 00:25:39,933 --> 00:25:42,500 careful and non-recreational use 496 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,900 of these powerful substances. 497 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:48,700 One concept that the emerging use in therapy shares 498 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:51,666 with indigenous practices is the importance of taking 499 00:25:51,666 --> 00:25:53,933 these psychoactive substances 500 00:25:53,933 --> 00:25:57,200 only in the right environment and frame of mind. 501 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,533 Yehuda: We know that like any drug, 502 00:25:59,533 --> 00:26:03,700 including aspirin, that is in our medicine cabinet, 503 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:07,433 the use of any drug not in the way it was designed to be used 504 00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:11,833 can be harmful and even catastrophic. 505 00:26:11,833 --> 00:26:13,833 So when we talk about psychedelics, 506 00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:15,166 the setting is very important. 507 00:26:15,166 --> 00:26:18,266 Not just the preparation, not just the integration, 508 00:26:18,266 --> 00:26:19,600 but your safety. 509 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,666 Who you're with, what your intention is, 510 00:26:22,666 --> 00:26:25,800 what is the physical environment. 511 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Narrator: The setting plays a crucial role 512 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,100 in a psychedelic-assisted therapy experience. 513 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,566 No detail is overlooked in this physical space, 514 00:26:34,566 --> 00:26:37,033 and the mindset, or intention, 515 00:26:37,033 --> 00:26:40,100 a person brings to the session is of Paramount importance, 516 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,366 just as it is when indigenous people 517 00:26:43,366 --> 00:26:45,733 prepare for the use of peyote. 518 00:26:45,733 --> 00:26:48,333 Craig: My intentions were just to 519 00:26:48,333 --> 00:26:50,233 go in with an open mind. 520 00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:53,633 Whether it be a good trip or a bad trip, just experience it. 521 00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:57,966 My intention was self-exploration, 522 00:26:57,966 --> 00:27:02,533 self-understanding, and openness. 523 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,366 Kral: My intention was 524 00:27:05,366 --> 00:27:08,566 to see the face of god. 525 00:27:08,566 --> 00:27:10,466 Eric goss: My intention was to take 526 00:27:10,466 --> 00:27:14,400 my experience of having cancer at age 11 527 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,533 and transform it into something neutral, 528 00:27:18,533 --> 00:27:20,533 or even something positive. 529 00:27:20,533 --> 00:27:23,333 My intention was to have no intentions. 530 00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:26,300 I wanted to be open to accepting 531 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,233 whatever the experience would give to me. 532 00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:40,233 Narrator: What draws these patients together 533 00:27:40,233 --> 00:27:42,866 is a common enemy: Cancer. 534 00:27:42,866 --> 00:27:44,666 Agrawal: I've had the privilege of being 535 00:27:44,666 --> 00:27:46,433 with you guys all this last year. 536 00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:48,266 Narrator: Here in rockville, Maryland, 537 00:27:48,266 --> 00:27:51,333 oncologist manish agrawal is the first doctor 538 00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:53,766 in the country to run a psychedelic-assisted 539 00:27:53,766 --> 00:27:55,266 clinical trial treating depression 540 00:27:55,266 --> 00:27:58,133 and other mental health impacts of cancer 541 00:27:58,133 --> 00:27:59,500 with group therapy. 542 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,933 Craig: I was having really bad 543 00:28:01,933 --> 00:28:06,233 monthly depressive episodes where I would just cry all day. 544 00:28:06,233 --> 00:28:09,700 Narrator: As many as a third of patients with a cancer diagnosis 545 00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:12,766 will experience major depressive disorder. 546 00:28:12,766 --> 00:28:15,900 But perhaps because it exists in the shadow 547 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:17,966 of a cancer diagnosis, 548 00:28:17,966 --> 00:28:20,333 the condition is rarely acknowledged. 549 00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:23,666 Agrawal: I've been an oncologist for almost 20 years. 550 00:28:23,666 --> 00:28:26,033 And I've been taking care of patients 551 00:28:26,033 --> 00:28:28,233 and there's an aspect of that care that was really missing. 552 00:28:28,233 --> 00:28:30,700 You know, we take care of the physical aspects, 553 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,333 but then I close the door, and I know so many, um, 554 00:28:33,333 --> 00:28:35,900 important issues are really unaddressed. 555 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,866 Woman: I wanted to start with something to help us center. 556 00:28:39,866 --> 00:28:41,833 Just like to invite you to close your eyes. 557 00:28:41,833 --> 00:28:46,166 Agrawal: I think healing is bringing the body, the mind, 558 00:28:46,166 --> 00:28:47,866 the emotion, the spirit back home, 559 00:28:47,866 --> 00:28:51,000 to where you feel comfortable with it again. 560 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,266 And so, 561 00:28:52,266 --> 00:28:55,166 you can't just fix the physical pain, 562 00:28:55,166 --> 00:28:56,866 and then people are healed. 563 00:28:56,866 --> 00:28:58,500 It doesn't work that way. 564 00:28:59,666 --> 00:29:02,300 Narrator: Building on pioneering clinical trials 565 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,000 at n.Y.U., u.C.L.A., and Johns Hopkins, 566 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,166 manish saw that it was important to treat the depression 567 00:29:09,166 --> 00:29:12,233 as part of treating the cancer. 568 00:29:12,233 --> 00:29:14,000 Agrawal: That sort of whole-person care. 569 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 And that in order to take care of someone, 570 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,533 in order for them to feel good, 571 00:29:17,533 --> 00:29:18,933 it's not just killing the cancer. 572 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:24,000 Narrator: Manish was surprised by the results. 573 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Agrawal: To be honest with you, the numbers were so good 574 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,966 that I wouldn't believe it if I wasn't with every session. 575 00:29:29,966 --> 00:29:32,500 I saw every person go through here. 576 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,700 We treated 30 people. 577 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,466 And 82% had more than a 50% reduction 578 00:29:38,466 --> 00:29:40,000 in their depression symptoms. 579 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,566 When we measured quality of life, 580 00:29:41,566 --> 00:29:45,133 we measured anxiety, all of those were improved. 581 00:29:45,133 --> 00:29:49,800 Craig: The experience just kind of made me more aware of myself, 582 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,833 and the space that I take up in the world, 583 00:29:51,833 --> 00:29:54,900 and the energy that I put out into the world, 584 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:56,566 and how that affects people, too. 585 00:29:56,566 --> 00:29:59,266 Goss: Prior to the dosing, 586 00:29:59,266 --> 00:30:01,766 I had this tendency to get caught up 587 00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:03,966 in distressing thoughts related to the cancer. 588 00:30:03,966 --> 00:30:07,933 I noticed a subtle shift, in that, 589 00:30:07,933 --> 00:30:10,766 while distressing thoughts would still come up, 590 00:30:10,766 --> 00:30:13,666 I was able to let them go for the first time ever. 591 00:30:13,666 --> 00:30:17,833 I don't feel the need to follow them. 592 00:30:17,833 --> 00:30:20,066 Narrator: While Eric's endless distressing thoughts 593 00:30:20,066 --> 00:30:22,333 and Jon kostas's alcohol use disorder 594 00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,666 may seem to have nothing in common, 595 00:30:24,666 --> 00:30:28,966 some see a possible similarity at work in the brain. 596 00:30:30,266 --> 00:30:31,800 Matthew Johnson: These different disorders, 597 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,433 I've really thought of them all as forms of addiction. 598 00:30:34,433 --> 00:30:36,300 So whether we're talking about depression 599 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,500 or what we normally think of as addiction, 600 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,266 these are all just forms 601 00:30:41,266 --> 00:30:44,333 of being stuck in a suboptimal pattern. 602 00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:47,433 It's being stuck in a narrowed mental repertoire, 603 00:30:47,433 --> 00:30:49,633 a narrowed pattern of behaviors. 604 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,966 Narrator: In patients with depression, 605 00:30:53,966 --> 00:30:56,533 scientists have noticed an abnormal increase in activity 606 00:30:56,533 --> 00:30:58,500 in a network of different regions in the brain 607 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:01,900 called the default mode network. 608 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:06,500 Johnson: The default mode network refers to this pattern of activity 609 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,000 across a number of brain areas 610 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,200 that is strongly associated 611 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,600 with thinking about oneself, um, thinking about one's past, 612 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,766 um, projecting oneself mentally into the future. 613 00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:24,033 Narrator: The default mode network activates 614 00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:26,600 when a person is introspective, 615 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,100 and, under normal circumstances, becomes less active 616 00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:34,133 when a person shifts their attention to the outside world. 617 00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:35,766 But brain studies show 618 00:31:35,766 --> 00:31:38,266 that under the influence of a psychedelic, 619 00:31:38,266 --> 00:31:41,166 the default mode network is quieted, 620 00:31:41,166 --> 00:31:42,966 while other regions of the brain 621 00:31:42,966 --> 00:31:44,866 increase communication with each other. 622 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,633 A mathematical model captures a normal brain's activity. 623 00:31:50,633 --> 00:31:54,033 In contrast, a brain under the influence of psilocybin 624 00:31:54,033 --> 00:31:57,866 reveals a dramatic increase in global communication. 625 00:31:57,866 --> 00:32:00,166 Thousands of new connections form, 626 00:32:00,166 --> 00:32:04,200 linking brain regions that don't normally talk to each other. 627 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,133 Carhart-Harris: One analogy I've used for how psychedelics work 628 00:32:08,133 --> 00:32:10,700 in the brain is the snow globe. 629 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:13,666 When you pick up a snow globe, you know, 630 00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:17,133 the snow's settled at the bottom, it's sort of fixed, 631 00:32:17,133 --> 00:32:20,300 and then you pick it up, shake it, and things jiggle around 632 00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:22,466 and there's randomness and a kind of chaos, 633 00:32:22,466 --> 00:32:24,100 if you want, in the system. 634 00:32:25,666 --> 00:32:27,400 Narrator: The user experiences this 635 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,400 as an altered and heightened sense of awareness. 636 00:32:32,066 --> 00:32:35,066 But what causes this? 637 00:32:35,066 --> 00:32:37,733 Barrett: Early in our functional brain imaging studies of psychedelics, 638 00:32:37,733 --> 00:32:40,833 scientists were finding that the default mode network 639 00:32:40,833 --> 00:32:43,566 was turning down or turning off during these experiences. 640 00:32:43,566 --> 00:32:45,933 And that was a really good place to start. 641 00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:49,566 But we began to then look one layer deeper. 642 00:32:49,566 --> 00:32:51,633 Why was the default mode network turning off? 643 00:32:51,633 --> 00:32:55,833 Narrator: New research led neuroscientist Fred Barrett 644 00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:59,733 to investigate a region of the brain called the claustrum. 645 00:32:59,733 --> 00:33:01,900 Barrett: The claustrum is a really thin 646 00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:04,633 sheet of gray matter in the brain, 647 00:33:04,633 --> 00:33:09,266 tucked deep within each of the hemispheres of the brain. 648 00:33:09,266 --> 00:33:11,300 Recent animal models have shown 649 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:13,266 that it is incredibly highly connected 650 00:33:13,266 --> 00:33:15,466 to just about every other region of the brain. 651 00:33:15,466 --> 00:33:18,566 Understanding that the receptors targeted 652 00:33:18,566 --> 00:33:22,200 by psychedelic drugs are also really densely expressed 653 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,866 in the claustrum, we began to wonder 654 00:33:24,866 --> 00:33:27,600 whether the claustrum may be at the center 655 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,533 of psychedelic effects. 656 00:33:30,733 --> 00:33:34,600 Narrator: Fred believes the claustrum's central location and shape 657 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,333 suggest it regulates communication 658 00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:39,400 between the departments. 659 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,433 Barrett: When it's functioning normally, 660 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:44,900 the claustrum is essentially acting like a switchboard. 661 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,700 It's trying to help other brain regions figure out 662 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:49,866 when to turn on and when to turn off. 663 00:33:49,866 --> 00:33:52,900 But when we experience a psychedelic drug, 664 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:56,100 we believe that it's binding to specific receptors 665 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,700 in the claustrum 666 00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:01,366 and somehow disrupting or disorganizing the claustrum. 667 00:34:01,366 --> 00:34:04,833 It's almost as if the switchboard walks away. 668 00:34:04,833 --> 00:34:08,366 What happens next is that we seem to observe 669 00:34:08,366 --> 00:34:11,866 a radical change in the way 670 00:34:11,866 --> 00:34:13,400 that brain regions talk to each other. 671 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,333 And it may be within this context 672 00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:19,100 that we're experiencing learning 673 00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:22,933 and a possible even rewiring of the circuits 674 00:34:22,933 --> 00:34:25,266 that govern our behavior. 675 00:34:25,266 --> 00:34:28,000 And it may be that it's that radical reorganization 676 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,200 that allows people to encounter new psychological insights 677 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,566 that they hadn't encountered before. 678 00:34:33,566 --> 00:34:36,733 Narrator: Fred thinks the claustrum's sudden abdication of control 679 00:34:36,733 --> 00:34:40,166 may help explain why rigid behavior 680 00:34:40,166 --> 00:34:43,166 and thought patterns have a shot at resetting. 681 00:34:43,166 --> 00:34:44,533 Johnson: It's almost like they've seen 682 00:34:44,533 --> 00:34:47,366 this, like, kind of grand menu within their mind 683 00:34:47,366 --> 00:34:48,933 that they weren't aware of. 684 00:34:48,933 --> 00:34:51,633 That this, this greater number of possibilities 685 00:34:51,633 --> 00:34:52,766 that they can explore. 686 00:34:52,766 --> 00:34:55,633 Goss: It took a while to recover. 687 00:34:55,633 --> 00:34:59,400 I was having headaches and muscle pains. 688 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,466 But it was the best headache I'd ever had in my life. 689 00:35:02,466 --> 00:35:07,033 Because it told me that the psilocybin was working. 690 00:35:07,033 --> 00:35:09,866 It was actually physically restructuring my brain, 691 00:35:09,866 --> 00:35:14,266 something that I never imagined could happen before. 692 00:35:14,266 --> 00:35:17,100 It's like, reprogramming 693 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:19,533 the operating system of a computer. 694 00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:23,066 You're getting down to very basic, code-level changes 695 00:35:23,066 --> 00:35:27,133 that can enduringly change someone going forward. 696 00:35:28,633 --> 00:35:31,900 Narrator: As of 2022, there were more than a dozen clinical trials 697 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:36,266 underway involving psilocybin and mdma. 698 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,500 Early efforts to revive this research 699 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,866 began with individuals like Rick doblin, 700 00:35:42,866 --> 00:35:45,266 who founded the multidisciplinary association 701 00:35:45,266 --> 00:35:49,333 for psychedelic studies, or maps, in 1986, 702 00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:52,533 to facilitate research into the therapeutic benefits 703 00:35:52,533 --> 00:35:54,166 of psychedelics with a focus 704 00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:58,933 on mdma, or ecstasy, for post-traumatic stress disorder. 705 00:35:58,933 --> 00:36:03,533 One of the reasons that mdma is so successful in therapy 706 00:36:03,533 --> 00:36:06,866 is the way in which it builds a certain 707 00:36:06,866 --> 00:36:11,400 self-confidence, a self-acceptance. 708 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,433 Mdma can increase the hormone oxytocin, 709 00:36:14,433 --> 00:36:17,433 and that oxytocin is really important for bonding. 710 00:36:17,433 --> 00:36:20,033 That may be why that therapeutic bond, 711 00:36:20,033 --> 00:36:22,600 the setting that they have, 712 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,166 all induce these positive emotional mood states. 713 00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:28,933 Doblin: People under the influence of mdma 714 00:36:28,933 --> 00:36:33,300 are able to feel more connected, both to themselves, 715 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:34,666 to their inner world, 716 00:36:34,666 --> 00:36:36,300 and also to the people that they're with. 717 00:36:38,333 --> 00:36:41,700 Narrator: But these feelings of connectedness and love, 718 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,866 paired with an altered mental state, 719 00:36:43,866 --> 00:36:46,733 can make participants uniquely vulnerable. 720 00:36:46,733 --> 00:36:49,933 There is concern among researchers 721 00:36:49,933 --> 00:36:53,066 about how to ensure patient safety. 722 00:36:53,066 --> 00:36:56,600 And there are not yet universal guidelines or a code of ethics 723 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,900 for administering this kind of therapy. 724 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:03,633 In addition, unlike LSD and psilocybin, 725 00:37:03,633 --> 00:37:05,966 mdma has stimulant properties 726 00:37:05,966 --> 00:37:09,333 that can lead to toxic side effects. 727 00:37:09,333 --> 00:37:12,333 Mdma, because it impacts on dopamine or adrenaline, 728 00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:15,633 it has a stimulant properties to it, it can induce 729 00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:17,700 chills, 730 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,666 it can induce nausea, it can increase heart rate, 731 00:37:20,666 --> 00:37:24,066 people even thinking that they're having heart attacks. 732 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,766 Narrator: Since 2000, more than 200 PTSD patients, 733 00:37:28,766 --> 00:37:32,066 including survivors of interpersonal violence, 734 00:37:32,066 --> 00:37:33,866 disasters, 735 00:37:33,866 --> 00:37:37,300 and combat, have received mdma-assisted therapy 736 00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:39,033 in maps clinical trials. 737 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,233 One of those patients is Scott ostrom. 738 00:37:44,233 --> 00:37:47,500 In 2006, he was deployed to fallujah, Iraq, 739 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,033 where he engaged in multiple combat missions. 740 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,866 Ostrom: Real war is scary. 741 00:37:54,866 --> 00:37:58,133 You play for keeps and everything's unexpected. 742 00:37:58,133 --> 00:38:01,233 You know, you go there highly trained 743 00:38:01,233 --> 00:38:03,700 and as physically fit as you can be, 744 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:05,533 but a lot of it's, you know, luck. 745 00:38:06,766 --> 00:38:10,266 Narrator: On the front lines, Scott was under constant threat, 746 00:38:10,266 --> 00:38:14,266 and would go on to develop PTSD. 747 00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:16,600 Ross: We know that at its core, 748 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,366 PTSD involves the amygdala and overactivation of the amygdala. 749 00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,933 The amygdala's the fear center of the brain, 750 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:25,700 and it keeps us alive; It keeps us away from being killed. 751 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,800 But it's the main pathological construct in PTSD. 752 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,066 You have an overactive amygdala. 753 00:38:32,066 --> 00:38:34,733 People respond to neutral stimuli. 754 00:38:34,733 --> 00:38:36,266 Like, a door slamming 755 00:38:36,266 --> 00:38:38,600 can remind them of being in combat. 756 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600 So, innocuous stimuli trigger this exaggerated fear response. 757 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:47,633 Hurd: Mdma seems to calm the amygdala. 758 00:38:47,633 --> 00:38:51,600 By having people not be so hypersensitive 759 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,466 to negative emotional state, 760 00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:58,700 the prefrontal cortex now can dampen the amygdala, 761 00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:00,766 reduce its, its hypersensitivity 762 00:39:00,766 --> 00:39:03,866 to distress, 763 00:39:03,866 --> 00:39:06,900 to old memories that would cause 764 00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:09,366 the amygdala to be overactive. 765 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,166 Ross: Your prefrontal cortex is really important. 766 00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:14,966 It's the most evolved part of our brain, 767 00:39:14,966 --> 00:39:16,766 and it helps you say, 768 00:39:16,766 --> 00:39:18,366 "you know what? The trauma's in the past. 769 00:39:18,366 --> 00:39:20,166 It's not happening now." 770 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,566 And it allows you to rationally think through something 771 00:39:22,566 --> 00:39:24,366 and make executive decisions. 772 00:39:24,366 --> 00:39:26,200 People with PTSD, 773 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,900 they're just stuck in this, like, 774 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,800 fight-or-flight reactive thing. 775 00:39:32,233 --> 00:39:34,033 Narrator: Scott qualified for a clinical trial 776 00:39:34,033 --> 00:39:35,400 with mdma-assisted therapy, 777 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,766 which helped him to confront traumatic memories. 778 00:39:39,766 --> 00:39:42,933 Yehuda: If you think of your mind as kind of a hallway 779 00:39:42,933 --> 00:39:45,033 where there are a lot of doors, 780 00:39:45,033 --> 00:39:47,300 and you try very hard to walk down the hallway 781 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,866 and not be triggered by bad stuff 782 00:39:50,866 --> 00:39:53,233 that you know is behind those doors. 783 00:39:53,233 --> 00:39:56,500 One of the things that happens with mdma is, you say, 784 00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:58,500 "I wonder what would happen if I opened that door. 785 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,166 Maybe it's not so terrible." 786 00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:08,200 Ostrom: I started seeing this, like, spinning, black, oily ball, 787 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,100 and it started off in the distance, 788 00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:11,566 and then it would grow, 789 00:40:11,566 --> 00:40:14,433 and get closer to me and closer to me. 790 00:40:14,433 --> 00:40:16,466 And then when it would get close enough 791 00:40:16,466 --> 00:40:19,066 for me to kind of realize that it was this spinning black ball, 792 00:40:19,066 --> 00:40:21,466 I would say, like, "what are you, what are you doing here?" 793 00:40:21,466 --> 00:40:22,866 And it would retreat away. 794 00:40:22,866 --> 00:40:24,266 Instead of asking it what it was, 795 00:40:24,266 --> 00:40:25,700 as soon as I surrendered to it, 796 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:27,933 and I surrendered to the feeling that it gave me 797 00:40:27,933 --> 00:40:29,900 on the inside and I let that anxiety grow, 798 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:34,333 it started to open up in different layers like an onion. 799 00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:37,833 And when I got to the center, 800 00:40:37,833 --> 00:40:41,233 I relived a memory of a phone call that I had with my dad 801 00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:42,800 when I was overseas in Iraq. 802 00:40:44,466 --> 00:40:47,400 What I had said to him was, "dad, I'm really scared. 803 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800 They said some of us aren't coming home." 804 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,233 And my dad had said to me, "don't worry, Scott. 805 00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:55,800 "You're highly trained. 806 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,366 "You're with the best guys the marine corps has to offer, 807 00:40:58,366 --> 00:41:01,500 and don't worry, your training is going to take over." 808 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,066 All of a sudden, I realized 809 00:41:04,066 --> 00:41:07,466 that's where this shift happened. 810 00:41:07,466 --> 00:41:09,866 I had become this other person that I needed to become, 811 00:41:09,866 --> 00:41:13,366 that I had to become, to survive those combat deployments. 812 00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:18,900 The only thing I could think to name that person was the bully. 813 00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,300 Narrator: Taking his father's words to heart, 814 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:25,600 Scott let his training take over to become the bully. 815 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,900 But the bully could not shield him from the pain of loss. 816 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:32,133 One thing that was really tough 817 00:41:32,133 --> 00:41:35,633 was not being able to save someone that I felt close to. 818 00:41:35,633 --> 00:41:40,066 The vehicle that he was riding in, um, 819 00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:41,900 ran over an anti-tank mine. 820 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:48,233 I had ran up to the vehicle shortly after that explosion, 821 00:41:48,233 --> 00:41:50,166 and the vehicle had caught fire. 822 00:41:51,933 --> 00:41:55,266 My friend was trying to get out of the passenger seat, 823 00:41:55,266 --> 00:41:58,766 and he couldn't, and I couldn't get to the passenger door. 824 00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:01,033 My body wouldn't let me get any closer, 825 00:42:01,033 --> 00:42:05,633 because the fire was too hot, and he burned alive. 826 00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,933 There was nothing I could do. 827 00:42:09,933 --> 00:42:12,833 Narrator: Nightmares of the war followed Scott home, 828 00:42:12,833 --> 00:42:15,400 along with painful regret. 829 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,400 Ostrom: I felt a lot of guilt for 830 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,566 not being able to save him. 831 00:42:23,566 --> 00:42:27,100 And for a long time, I punished myself for that. 832 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:33,266 My interpersonal relationships were completely down the tubes. 833 00:42:33,266 --> 00:42:36,233 I had high-risk behaviors like getting into fights, 834 00:42:36,233 --> 00:42:39,333 self-medicating with drugs, alcohol, 835 00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:41,666 being just aggressive and martial in general. 836 00:42:42,833 --> 00:42:45,233 And after, like, three-and-a-half years 837 00:42:45,233 --> 00:42:46,666 of having nightmares every night, 838 00:42:46,666 --> 00:42:48,800 I really started to kind of fall apart. 839 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,366 Narrator: Scott wasn't alone in his desperation. 840 00:42:54,366 --> 00:42:59,533 Every day, almost 20 military veterans die by suicide. 841 00:42:59,533 --> 00:43:04,400 Current treatments for PTSD are of limited benefit. 842 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,200 After identifying the bully within him, 843 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,800 after the first mdma dosing session, 844 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,533 Scott had another breakthrough in a subsequent session 845 00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:16,466 with his therapist, marcela ot'alora, 846 00:43:16,466 --> 00:43:19,533 and Scott's dog, Tim. 847 00:43:19,533 --> 00:43:20,933 Ostrom: Marcela was sitting in her chair 848 00:43:20,933 --> 00:43:24,800 and I was spooning Tim on the rug. 849 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,900 And marcela had just told me, "well, would it be okay 850 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,700 "if you asked the bully 851 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:35,966 if Scott can take over for a little while?" 852 00:43:35,966 --> 00:43:38,366 And being in the state that I was in, I was, like, 853 00:43:38,366 --> 00:43:40,933 "I don't know, I guess I'll give it a shot." 854 00:43:40,933 --> 00:43:44,500 So, I had an unconscious conversation with the bully, 855 00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:48,300 where I was able to ask if it was okay 856 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,300 if I took over for a little while, Scott took over. 857 00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:52,166 Ot'alora: Right, and it was more, like, 858 00:43:52,166 --> 00:43:56,200 can he step out, to the side for a moment 859 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,500 to see who else was there, 860 00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,400 to see what other parts of Scott are there? 861 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,400 And it was just this beautiful time of being able to connect. 862 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,333 And I think after that, you didn't call him a bully anymore. 863 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,366 Narrator: The mdma helped Scott to reframe the guilt he felt 864 00:44:16,366 --> 00:44:19,766 over not being able to save his friend's life. 865 00:44:19,766 --> 00:44:21,933 Ostrom: You don't forget the breakthrough moments 866 00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:24,300 that you had, and you don't forget what you learned. 867 00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:26,166 They stay a part of you. 868 00:44:26,166 --> 00:44:28,600 So no, mdma is not something you microdose, 869 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,966 it's not something you have to take all the time. 870 00:44:30,966 --> 00:44:35,533 Um, it's, it's just the key 871 00:44:35,533 --> 00:44:38,933 that fits into the psychotherapy lock. 872 00:44:38,933 --> 00:44:40,033 The psychedelic-induced experience 873 00:44:40,033 --> 00:44:41,966 can help a person get unstuck 874 00:44:41,966 --> 00:44:45,533 in a way that's not just, just being told it, 875 00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,333 but really experiencing it firsthand, 876 00:44:47,333 --> 00:44:49,333 and I think that's where there's a lot of power 877 00:44:49,333 --> 00:44:50,933 in these experiences. 878 00:44:52,066 --> 00:44:53,333 Narrator: Remarkably, 879 00:44:53,333 --> 00:44:56,600 nearly 70% of participants in phase three 880 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,366 of the maps mdma-assisted therapy trials 881 00:44:59,366 --> 00:45:01,200 no longer qualify 882 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,000 for a PTSD diagnosis. 883 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,200 Doblin: We learned that mdma-assisted therapy 884 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,400 works in combat-related PTSD. 885 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,633 It works in the hardest cases. 886 00:45:09,633 --> 00:45:12,533 And it works regardless of the cause of PTSD. 887 00:45:12,533 --> 00:45:17,400 So our phase three studies are PTSD from any cause, 888 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,766 and if we manage to get fda approval, 889 00:45:19,766 --> 00:45:23,066 it will be for PTSD from any cause. 890 00:45:24,233 --> 00:45:26,033 Narrator: Rick doblin thinks that the treatment 891 00:45:26,033 --> 00:45:28,733 could be beneficial to many more people, 892 00:45:28,733 --> 00:45:32,400 including some who struggle with stressful experiences 893 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,366 that aren't easily associated with PTSD, 894 00:45:35,366 --> 00:45:38,133 like bullying and systemic racism. 895 00:45:39,133 --> 00:45:41,700 But introducing psychedelic therapies 896 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,966 to communities of color brings a special set of challenges. 897 00:45:45,966 --> 00:45:48,500 Monnica Williams: Because this is a new treatment, 898 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:50,566 because it's connected to research, 899 00:45:50,566 --> 00:45:52,266 and because it's connected to a substance 900 00:45:52,266 --> 00:45:54,533 that's been stigmatized due to being illegal, 901 00:45:54,533 --> 00:45:57,866 a lot of people of color are very wary. 902 00:45:57,866 --> 00:46:00,300 The African-American community has suffered a great deal 903 00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:01,900 from the war on drugs 904 00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:04,833 and having their communities targeted due to drugs. 905 00:46:04,833 --> 00:46:08,700 Just growing up, I was always taught, stay away from drugs. 906 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,066 This is a trap. 907 00:46:10,066 --> 00:46:12,066 This is a way that people are gonna get you 908 00:46:12,066 --> 00:46:13,433 and put you behind bars. 909 00:46:15,166 --> 00:46:16,966 Narrator: Aware of abuses in the past, 910 00:46:16,966 --> 00:46:20,066 maps teamed up with therapists from communities of color 911 00:46:20,066 --> 00:46:21,366 to offer them training 912 00:46:21,366 --> 00:46:24,466 in the use of mdma-assisted therapy. 913 00:46:24,466 --> 00:46:27,533 One of the participants, Sara Reed, 914 00:46:27,533 --> 00:46:30,466 chose to experience an mdma dosing session 915 00:46:30,466 --> 00:46:32,100 as part of her training 916 00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,233 to become a psychedelic-assisted therapist. 917 00:46:35,233 --> 00:46:37,800 Reed: One of my therapists made a comment about, 918 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,966 "there's a part of you that doesn't want to be understood." 919 00:46:40,966 --> 00:46:43,033 As a black woman, 920 00:46:43,033 --> 00:46:45,933 there is nothing more that I want than to be understood. 921 00:46:45,933 --> 00:46:48,533 I felt that 922 00:46:48,533 --> 00:46:52,866 so deeply in that moment. 923 00:46:52,866 --> 00:46:55,133 Particularly with problems like racism, 924 00:46:55,133 --> 00:46:57,533 I mean, one of the ways that it hurts people so much 925 00:46:57,533 --> 00:46:59,666 is that you're experiencing it all the time, 926 00:46:59,666 --> 00:47:01,333 but other people don't see it. 927 00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:03,266 And even when you point it out, they're, like, 928 00:47:03,266 --> 00:47:05,000 "are you sure that's what happened?" 929 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,333 Or, "that didn't really happen," 930 00:47:06,333 --> 00:47:08,266 or, "maybe you're being too sensitive," 931 00:47:08,266 --> 00:47:10,766 so your whole experience is one of being invalidated. 932 00:47:10,766 --> 00:47:12,666 And of being not seen and not heard. 933 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,066 Narrator: Learning from this experience, 934 00:47:16,066 --> 00:47:18,200 Sara went on to provide one of the first 935 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,933 mdma-assisted therapy sessions for a participant of color 936 00:47:21,933 --> 00:47:24,933 experiencing racism and post-traumatic stress disorder, 937 00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:28,300 or PTSD. 938 00:47:34,533 --> 00:47:37,333 Narrator: From a young age, kanu caplash 939 00:47:37,333 --> 00:47:39,300 had been the target of racist remarks 940 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:40,833 and bullying. 941 00:47:40,833 --> 00:47:44,700 Williams: With racism, often it's not necessarily 942 00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,300 one big problem. 943 00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:49,666 It's not necessarily, like, the ku klux klan came, 944 00:47:49,666 --> 00:47:51,133 and burned a cross on your lawn. 945 00:47:51,133 --> 00:47:53,366 And now you have trauma. 946 00:47:53,366 --> 00:47:56,766 It's usually a lifetime of smaller things that may have 947 00:47:56,766 --> 00:47:58,766 some big things here and there, but at some point, 948 00:47:58,766 --> 00:48:02,000 the stress becomes overwhelming, 949 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,266 and it tips into PTSD. 950 00:48:05,266 --> 00:48:06,500 We call that racial trauma. 951 00:48:08,866 --> 00:48:12,866 Narrator: Kanu was already experiencing racism when, as a swimmer, 952 00:48:12,866 --> 00:48:15,766 he was sexually assaulted in the locker room, 953 00:48:15,766 --> 00:48:18,800 tipping him into PTSD. 954 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,566 Caplash: So the nightmares and the symptoms 955 00:48:20,566 --> 00:48:23,633 really started to take effect after the sexual assaults, 956 00:48:23,633 --> 00:48:25,600 which happened when I was 13. 957 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,800 I was sexually assaulted, four times. 958 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,266 If it wasn't for the study, 959 00:48:29,266 --> 00:48:31,266 I don't know if I'd be, you know, alive today. 960 00:48:31,266 --> 00:48:33,366 'Cause, like, there was times kind of right before the study, 961 00:48:33,366 --> 00:48:34,566 where I was really, really struggling, 962 00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:35,733 where I really wanted to kill myself. 963 00:48:37,433 --> 00:48:40,333 Reed: Our site was focused on providing participants 964 00:48:40,333 --> 00:48:44,400 with a culturally informed experience with mdma therapy. 965 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,733 And as one of his therapists who is attuned to his 966 00:48:47,733 --> 00:48:51,100 racial background, his religious background, 967 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:56,000 his childhood upbringing, I wanted to incorporate chants. 968 00:48:58,933 --> 00:49:00,966 During one of his dosing sessions 969 00:49:00,966 --> 00:49:02,700 where one of those chants played, 970 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:05,466 I just remember it seemed like something 971 00:49:05,466 --> 00:49:07,966 really resonated with him in that moment. 972 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:15,466 He was actually able to go back to a childhood memory. 973 00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:22,266 Caplash: I'd be transported to, like, a different galaxy. 974 00:49:22,266 --> 00:49:25,933 Look down, and I see this long set of piano keys 975 00:49:25,933 --> 00:49:27,933 going on to infinity. 976 00:49:27,933 --> 00:49:30,066 And it's crazy, 'cause as I'm going down the keys, 977 00:49:30,066 --> 00:49:31,700 I can see different parts of my life. 978 00:49:33,133 --> 00:49:34,500 I find that sexual assault, 979 00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:35,966 'cause i'm, like, that's the big one. 980 00:49:35,966 --> 00:49:37,833 That's the one that I had trouble remembering, 981 00:49:37,833 --> 00:49:40,000 and kind of trouble processing. 982 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,566 And I remember, I jumped in and I woke up on another world. 983 00:49:45,166 --> 00:49:47,900 I sat there and I meditated on that planet 984 00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:49,500 for, like, a thousand years. 985 00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:51,600 And I was able to go through my memory, 986 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,233 and walk through it like a museum. 987 00:49:53,233 --> 00:49:55,066 And, like, walk through each of the incidents 988 00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:57,166 and remember vividly everything that happened. 989 00:49:57,166 --> 00:49:59,100 I was, like, flexing my arms really, really hard 990 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:03,166 and just getting out all of the, effectively, like, pain. 991 00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:04,333 You know, that was just kind of 992 00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:06,366 stuck in my arms, stuck in my body. 993 00:50:06,366 --> 00:50:08,133 The one thing I learned through the study 994 00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:11,466 is, like, there's no other way but through. 995 00:50:11,466 --> 00:50:14,533 The only way to handle the beast is to confront it. 996 00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:18,133 To recognize it is what it is, it's a part of you, um, 997 00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:20,100 but it doesn't necessarily have to define you. 998 00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,833 And when you do that, eventually, you know, 999 00:50:22,833 --> 00:50:24,266 you will accept more of yourself. 1000 00:50:24,266 --> 00:50:28,000 But also, you will accept, like, the larger world 1001 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,600 in a more kind of positive light. 1002 00:50:32,433 --> 00:50:34,300 Narrator: As of 2022, 1003 00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,900 mdma-assisted therapy for PTSD 1004 00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,266 is in the final stages of the fda approval process. 1005 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,733 Psilocybin-assisted therapies for major depression 1006 00:50:44,733 --> 00:50:48,200 and other conditions are also in the fda pipeline. 1007 00:50:49,433 --> 00:50:52,466 While hope runs high for psychedelic medicine, 1008 00:50:52,466 --> 00:50:55,500 scientists are quick to point out the inherent risks. 1009 00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:59,266 Williams: People think about psychedelic drugs and they think, 1010 00:50:59,266 --> 00:51:01,666 you know, you're gonna kind of zone off into 1011 00:51:01,666 --> 00:51:04,500 a world with clouds and unicorns. 1012 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,300 But I see them more as medicines, as tools for healing. 1013 00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:09,933 And, um, and they are powerful tools. 1014 00:51:09,933 --> 00:51:12,666 And so, I think, as such, they require a lot of respect, 1015 00:51:12,666 --> 00:51:17,433 because I think something that has that kind of power to heal 1016 00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:19,433 could also cause harm. 1017 00:51:19,433 --> 00:51:21,600 You gotta use it safely. 1018 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,900 Narrator: Scientists are cautiously moving forward. 1019 00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:29,300 Agrawal: The psilocybin therapy has been most powerful tool I've seen. 1020 00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:31,133 It's not for everybody, 1021 00:51:31,133 --> 00:51:33,300 it's not to be, it's not a magic bullet, 1022 00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:37,766 but it does change things meaningfully for many patients. 1023 00:51:37,766 --> 00:51:40,933 Griffiths: It's so different than any other intervention 1024 00:51:40,933 --> 00:51:42,733 we have within psychiatry, 1025 00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:46,533 because it's changing the very narrative structure 1026 00:51:46,533 --> 00:51:49,266 about how people 1027 00:51:49,266 --> 00:51:50,800 tell their own story, 1028 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,700 what they believe going forward. 1029 00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:57,166 Yehuda: We're not going to have this whole Jigsaw puzzle 1030 00:51:57,166 --> 00:51:58,866 completed for a while. 1031 00:51:58,866 --> 00:52:02,266 And I think that we want to stay a little humble about that. 1032 00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:06,933 The less we kind of interpret, and the more we just 1033 00:52:06,933 --> 00:52:10,533 state what our observations are, 1034 00:52:10,533 --> 00:52:12,600 I think the better off we're going to be. 1035 00:53:02,566 --> 00:53:07,433 Announcer: To order this program on DVD, visit shoppbs. 1036 00:53:07,433 --> 00:53:10,166 Or call 1-800-play-pbs. 1037 00:53:10,166 --> 00:53:13,033 Episodes of "nova" are available with passport. 1038 00:53:13,033 --> 00:53:16,766 "Nova" is also available on Amazon prime video. 84617

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