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I think I'd like to just say a little bit
about... that's all the parts
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and definitely not in the order
I would have mixed it.
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I mentioned it a little bit before where
it's pretty... what we say in the UK
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or in America,
it's pretty willy-nilly.
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I can't imagine...
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I can't remember what I would
have done on this song,
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because it's so dependent
on the day and my mood
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and how much coffee
I had that morning.
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I'll get into
the studio.
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My ears may feel a funny way,
because some days
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my ears are off
and truly off.
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One is sort of dull and then
two hours later, it's fine,
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and so it changes
my approach.
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So I just
go with it.
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Natural horsemanship,
they say you always work
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with the horse
that shows up.
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Don't try to make the horse into
something that you want,
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but work with
the one that shows up.
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So that's
my horse.
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I try to work with it,
whatever it is, that day.
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I have ways
around it.
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I can switch the speakers
on my console.
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So if I need to hear the top end
over there, I switch the speakers
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and go, "Yeah.
Okay, that's fine."
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I can go back and know that it's fine,
even though I can't hear it as well
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in that hour or two.
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I can definitely do that.
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So I'll just say
how it could have gone.
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I may have seen all the stuff
and listened to that kick, and said,
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"Okay, I need
my sub..."
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Let's get the sub
worked out.
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I'll get that in there
because that's going to be major
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how I see everything
else in the song.
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And to do it, I might have done it soloed,
built a trigger, soloed the kicks up,
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make sure that it's not flamming,
or if it is, that I like it.
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That the phase is the way I want it,
whether it's dropping the pitch down
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and out of phase but lowering it all
and then it bringing up, all that stuff.
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But while I'm doing that,
in between each move,
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I might be coming down here
and going, "What's the bass doing?
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Okay, that's
what it is doing."
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I might bring it up to full level
and then bring it down to -15,
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where it's just in the mix so I can
at least hear that it's there
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because now I know
what it sounds like.
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It's in my head.
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Oh vocal,
I better check that.
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Then put the vocal in, get a
little something on it like that FX 1 one,
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the reverb,
which is the Space Echo.
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I'll just put that on a little bit
so it's not just a dry vocal in the track.
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And then go back up and bring
some of these other elements in
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and go, how's that work?
Oh, that's sort of bridge.
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Oh, that's sounding cool.
Oh, wow.
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Oh, so that sounds
like it's close.
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I'll get a quick level and, the snare
drum is not really speaking here.
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Let's do that on SansAmp
because I haven't used it yet.
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Oh, that sounds good.
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Let's go down here
and adjust the Omnipressor.
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And, no, that's
not going to fly.
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Bring up
the bass.
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Oh, that's not going
to fly with the bass.
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Bring up
the vocal.
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I know, I'll spread the SansAmp
and make it more like a room sound.
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And then it will unclog the center
and then listen to it.
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Go, "Yeah, I think
that's going to work."
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What are those
crashes doing?
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Oh, shit, there's
percussion.
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Just bring the
percussion up quickly.
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Oh, okay.
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No, I can make those so they're not
going to clash with the crashes.
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I'll worry about
that later.
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I want to get the crashes
on the kit so they really work.
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I know I can do stuff
to this to fit it in.
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Work on
the crashes.
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Oh, there's toms.
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Damn.
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It's getting crowded.
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What do I do?
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Oh, okay.
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No, too much top end,
dull amount,
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not long enough, can't really
hear that they're toms.
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SansAmp, yeah,
that sounds better.
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Oh, I can hear
the length now.
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Oh, that's
a tom.
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Too loud.
Sneak them in.
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All right.
What's happening with the bass?
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I can get away with more toms,
a little more toms, bass.
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Oh, guitars. I better check
these guitars against that.
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Let's put
the guitars in.
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Okay, now, those are going to work,
but let's spread them.
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Hold on, that looks weird.
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What's that?
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That looks like
a low thing.
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Oh good,
it's not.
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It's a midrange
beauty thing.
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I can fit that in later.
Get rid of it.
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For two and a half hours
that's what I'm doing.
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Going back
and forth.
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I try to lose
myself in it.
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There's no words
when I'm doing that, okay?
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I'm just being
comical here.
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That's what
I'm doing.
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Listening
to everything.
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I'm changing phase, even the guitar
against the bass because there might be
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frequencies in there that
you hear something change.
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Probably not, but
sometimes there are.
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It's amazing.
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Sometimes, you change
one keyboard against another
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or the guitar against
the keyboard, and you...
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Oh, wow.
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So that's like changing the EQ to me,
which you would do normally.
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Let's go and change the EQ
against the keyboard
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and make sure it's
going to work together.
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Carve out a spot for it,
or try to blend them together
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so they sound
like one sound.
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No rules.
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No way of knowing it's going
to work, to me, until I do it.
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And I let myself do all sorts of stupid
things that I... in front of somebody,
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I'd probably be embarrassed,
but the amount of times that it's worked
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after I've done it is maybe not a high
percentage, but that's enough to...
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even if it was twice out of eight,
that it would have been
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really embarrassing for
somebody to see me do that.
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If I get two out of there, I go,
"Oh, my gosh, that worked. It's worth it."
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It's worth the shame,
so I do it.
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And I might have put that
Buenos on this feedback.
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Come down here,
done a keyboard.
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Go, "Ah, nah."
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Take the
Buenos off.
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Okay. Back to
the keyboard.
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Oh wait, back to
the keyboard over here.
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Now, what's
the guitar doing?
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Oh, no, maybe,
the Buenos was better.
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I can't tell if it's better,
but I would leave it
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thinking
maybe it's better.
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If it becomes a problem,
then maybe I'd solo the two.
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But if I never think
about it again,
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I don't think
about it.
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If I get to the end of the song,
playing it without trying to make
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more moves because something's
bothering me, then it's working to my ear.
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And that's
how I finish.
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I do this practically the whole time,
and it's like I teeter back,
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turn stuff off, turn EQ off,
turn compressors off.
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Go extreme on the EQ,
go less, flip phase.
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Turn off the effect, change the panning,
level up, level down.
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All over the
place, drums.
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I never stop the drums,
I never stop the vocal.
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It's the whole thing.
So it's a seesaw.
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And as I get closer to when I think
I'm going to be finished,
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the seesaw just stops
doing as much until...
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And I play from the top, most often,
because for me to hear how this guitar
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is going to work coming in,
or maybe, a keyboard pushing it up,
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I'll do the move, and then I'll listen
from the top for other things.
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And then when it hits that point, I go,
"Ah, that level doesn't work,"
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coming in after hearing
the whole song, doesn't work to me.
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So I do
that a lot.
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So as I'm listening,
I'm doing less and less and less and less
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and less and less and less and less
until I play it from the top
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and I'm ready
to do a move,
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and I get to the end and go, "Oh,
yeah, I think there was just this one
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little vocal move I wanted
to make or... and that's it."
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And then I go
and hit record.
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And then at that moment, sometimes,
I hit record and literally 5 seconds,
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and I go, "Oh, shit, I got to
bring this down. Boom."
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I'll bring that
way down.
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And then it'll get up to here,
I'll be recording, and I go,
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"Oh, you know, what?
That needs to hit harder.
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Let me bring this down
a dB and a half."
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So when that comes in,
it really kicks.
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That's not too bad,
but we all know more is better.
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Sounds
better to me.
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It's a dB and a half
on your Stereo Bus.
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And then I'll do that,
I'll start again.
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And once I get to the end
and I haven't made a move,
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that's when I
send out my first mix.
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And I usually get sent a little bowl
of confetti and a bottle of champagne
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from the artist to celebrate
that I finished them.
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No, I'm kidding.
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Then they tell me what they want...
what they really want.
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And I'd say half
the time it's not that.
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I bet I did what I wanted
to do on the project.
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On this project, I think it was
very little that she wanted.
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She really
loved it.
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But like I said, half the time
I'm working for artists who say,
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"No, there's too much...
You got to pull this in.
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There's too much on the extremities,
or there's too much distortion in places.
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I don't like the crunchiness of the snare,
or can you add more crunch to the vocal?
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Vocal up,"
whatever it is.
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But I think it's important
for me to do...
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I do the mix for me.
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That's what I'm doing this for, and
I'm hoping that the artists will like it.
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I don't feel good if I go in going,
"I'm doing this for the artist,
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and whatever they want, I'll alter it
and get what the artist wants
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because it's
their record.
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I think that's okay. I'm not
dissing that, but that's not what I do.
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I do the mix for how I want
to hear it sound,
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and then I'll do
it for the artist.
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But if I don't do that,
I'll always resent myself
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for not doing
what I wanted to do.
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And I get it out of my system,
and then I'll make adjustments.
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If it's too many adjustments
and they don't like the direction at all,
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that to me is a red flag
that I'm not the right guy.
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And I usually say so, because
I don't want to go in second-guessing
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next time I go in and pan stuff wide,
add SansAmp to a snare drum.
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I don't want to go, "Oh, last mix they
didn't like it, so I better not do that."
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To me, I'll quit
right then and there.
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If I start thinking like that,
that's when I don't take a project.
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So, luckily, Queen Kwang and me
were on the same page,
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and I'm really happy about it
because I really loved this record.
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And that's why I wanted to do this because
I think it's one of the better things
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that I've done
and worked on.
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And to me,
it was a gift.
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And thank you very much, Carre,
if you ever watch this video,
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and John for
bringing it to me.
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That concludes our mix deconstruction
from Mix With The Masters studio in Paris.
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