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So Toms.
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SansAmp again.
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Let's see what I've got
going on here.
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Let's see
what I had.
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Okay.
Again, it's like SansAmp.
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Distortion for me,
when I started using it, I liked it.
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It was a replacement
for a room sound or a reverb.
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Instead of having any ambiance,
even a live ambiance.
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It brought the live ambiance up
in whatever I'd put it on.
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So if it's a snare drum,
just like with a guitar,
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it'd bring up all the noise
that you don't want sometimes.
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With drums, the SansAmp,
or any distortion will,
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I just prefer
the SansAmp.
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And Decapitator is a good one too,
but this is what I've always used
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from the days
of the guitar pedal.
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And the plug-in is just... it's another
animal, but it's equally as good.
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It tends
to bring up...
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You can hear that there's some resonances,
you can hear some dirt on that,
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and you can sometimes smooth
those things out or get rid of them
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or make it
desirable in there.
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If it's a cymbal and you have really
ratty top end, it'll often
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smooth that out because it allowed
distortion to other frequencies around it.
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And it'll just make it
sound sort of intentional.
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See that.
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That rattiness is now down lower,
I don't know, 1K now.
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And I think that noise
sounds good at that frequency.
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Let's see what I did
with the EQ.
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I'm actually trying
to add some of it back in.
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I'm taking
a bit of 10K off.
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I'm trying to maybe
bring that noise out now here.
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I mean,
bring it up.
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And with this too,
with this 900.
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You can hear that.
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It's a necessary component
of the rhythm to my ear,
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but that's distracting
to my ear.
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I want it in there,
but I want it to be subversive.
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Cooler.
I mean, sort of...
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You know what, it sounds the....
all this guitar stuff,
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it all sounds a bit sneaky
and mysterious to me...
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as a vibe.
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But those
sounds didn't.
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So I think I was just
trying to make it more...
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Actually, like a guy sneaking around
in an alleyway trying not to be seen.
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And also, it gave a little bit of length
in between those Toms.
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So you could hear that they were there
even though they didn't have that top end.
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Cymbals.
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Did nothing to them except what's
happening on the drum bus,
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which, of course,
is going to be quite big.
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First huge thing.
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It's often, like with the Devil-Loc,
this is a model of the Shure Level Loc.
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The interesting thing about a Level Loc,
the way I started using it,
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which I don't think anybody's done is,
that it was a mic-level compressor.
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I wasn't sending it
off a desk.
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I ended up doing
that with pads
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because I blew my first one up immediately
when I tried to do it off the desk.
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I didn't realize
it was mic-level.
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And the TV repair man who fixed it
said, "What did you do?"
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And I told him.
He says mic-level.
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I started using it mic-level,
just plug a mic into it
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and then that
into a mic pre.
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And it used to be out
with the drummer in the studio.
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I'd have to go out there and set it or if
it was Jerry Morada [SP] or Pete Thomas,
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they got into setting it themselves
because it changes the way you play.
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And I love the sound of it.
Just snuck in a little bit.
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You can see
that my...
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It's doing a lot
at a very low setting.
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Although the setting's
quite high.
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I don't normally get up
into that number five region.
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It's also
quite high.
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I will often just sneak it in in such
a small degree, but it's enough
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for it to give you
an excitement factor.
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I know this isn't a clean sound,
but I'm not going to rewrite it.
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I'm just going to leave
it and just say...
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so I can get back to it
and I can show you.
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If I do take
everything out here.
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Okay, that's a good bypass.
Right?
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I mean,
that's pretty...
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I often use it
just like that.
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Just the tiniest little bit
of pushing up.
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You can hear the snare
get a little bit crunchier.
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Does another thing again.
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Hear the length
on the snare?
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And that's without starting to use the
parameters they give you to build a sound.
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So, I, usually...like I said,
my starting point is probably here.
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You can see
how subtle that...
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But it definitely gives
the snare drum way more energy.
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You hear
the room reacting.
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Whatever that is on that
snare drum, whatever that...
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I mean, what you can do with this,
especially not using it as a sledgehammer,
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but as just a contour
or energy machine.
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Just a little bit
snuck in there.
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It's usually what I've done
with SansAmp additions
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and my crunchy
compressor additions.
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The Omnipressor, sometimes I use that
on cymbals to mimic a Level Loc
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or a Spectra Sonic 610.
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it's not like
the sledgehammer comes...
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It's really just to give it a little more
length and a little extra oomph.
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And the minute I bring
it up and I hear it,
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and then I usually back
it off a couple of dB.
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And then start muting it to see
what difference it's making.
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And it's usually making the difference
that it's doing what I want it to do
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at that level.
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So what it ends up meaning
a lot of the times...
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especially with live drums, I don't
usually then compress it afterwards.
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I am here,
we'll get to that.
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Which this is a compressor
over the whole drum kit.
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Often, with live drums,
I never get a compressor.
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I don't have any
compression.
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If I record the drums,
I don't compress them.
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And I don't compress
them in the mix.
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It's all done with additive
or parallel.
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Until the stereo bus.
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And then I smash
the fucking shit out of it.
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Let's see what some of these
other things are doing.
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Maybe I should...
Let me take everything out for a second.
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So I don't remember exactly,
but I probably would've done this
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to a lesser degree like I showed you,
where the mix control was lower.
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And then I probably
would've put...
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This, I wouldn't
have had out.
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But that's...
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99 times out of 100, I don't use
any compression or limiting in this thing.
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That will not
be happening.
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I thought it needed
more in this case.
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Oh, well, there we go.
Okay.
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So I might have had
this in from the get.
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Because that looks more like
what I would have.
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That's normal for me.
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And I just use this
for extra EQ, no other reason.
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I can just quickly
EQ a section of the...
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And I have another EQ here,
but I just really like this
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for the top end,
but I'm not using it on this.
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What did I do here?
Anything?
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No, I didn't
use that either.
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But something like the drum bus, I have
all this stuff on except for the Trans-X.
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Because even just turning that on
can switch the phase relationship
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between my sample,
which is going to the Mix Bux,
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which maybe I should have
started saying that like these sounds.
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I have in the Mix Bux because I don't want
that sub affecting the Devil-Loc
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and squishing things
for the rest of the kit.
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So I, most often, keep
my samples in the Mix Bux
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and then I have
the kit going here.
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This usually, I have in because if it's
deactivated and then I activate it,
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I got to go through and figure out
what it's done to my phase.
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But it also changes
a relationship when it's there.
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Just not as much
it seems.
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And when I turn it on,
let's see.
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I hear something but it's probably
just what I was trying to get out of it.
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You can see, I shortened
the release here a bit.
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It's got a little curve to it,
but it's pushing those transients a bit.
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But I think
the main thing...
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...is just cleaning up the tail end,
the release of it a little bit.
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That makes it sound
more aggressive to me.
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Let's hear here
without the samples.
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I think I'm hearing that.
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It's just another
component in there.
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I hear the pitch drop a little bit in that
midrange, which I prefer over the clicky.
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And then
when this comes in.
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There's that thing where...
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That sounds
like glue to me, it just...
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I just thought of this the other day
and I was mentioning it to some people,
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the early home cinema speaker systems that
you could buy for practically nothing,
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they were $100
or something.
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And you'd get
these little cubes.
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And I don't think there's anything
below one K on them.
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They're just mid-range
and top end.
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And not all there
even in that range.
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It's like some real scoops
and real peaks and valleys.
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And then you had a subwoofer,
which may be incorporated 120 down,
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150 down, maybe 100 down.
I'm not sure.
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But I could never tell
because the room plays such a...
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your living room plays such a big deal
in those things.
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But I never could understand why it
sounded all right when you had both,
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but if the speakers weren't on
and you heard the subwoofer...
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And then if you just listened to
the little speakers,
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it sounded like a transistor radio
with nothing below 1K.
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But then you put them both together,
it's like, oh yeah,
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I hear all the dialogue,
500 hertz, 800 hertz.
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And all that stuff above that sounded
really notched sounds smooth.
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What is that?
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I don't know enough
to tell you.
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But I hear that here.
This is...
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There is a mid-range
component in.
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But I don't know.
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Phase relationships
and adding it all together,
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I hear the pitch of that drop a little bit
when it's with the supplied kit.
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Because when I solo that,
it sounds a little higher
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than I would've thought.
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Put it together, whatever phase,
I might have flopped the phase to do that,
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or maybe
it came up.
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What often happens with me
is when I don't have the Trans-X in,
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I do have to flip
the phase of my sample.
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Let's see.
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You know what, I can't tell
what I'm hearing there actually,
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but I'll explain to you.
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I mean, what does happen, I'll often
put that in and my sub will go away.
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And I'll just come up and flip
the phase. But I also use phase.
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I've explained this before, but maybe it's
good just to quickly go over it again.
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I don't look at phase like
a maintenance tool, a correction tool,
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it's just is an extra button
on your EQ, and it is EQ.
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It's almost like an algorithm switch
or something where you have all this stuff
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on your EQ that you can play with
and do your sounds.
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But if you flip the phase, then it's like
it's using a different algorithm.
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It sounds
completely different.
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But then you can go through and EQ it
like it's a whole different EQ.
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It's a whole nother
set of sounds.
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So there's really maybe in wires,
in the electronic world,
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there's reasons to think about it
in a technical fashion.
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But I don't see any reason to think
about it in... like listening
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and the sound
of the mix.
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There's been so many times I've flopped
the phase and all the low end went away,
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but the sound
sounded better.
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So I think most people,
if the low end goes away,
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"Nope, nope,
that's out of phase, boom."
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Flop the phase and you take
a big fat snare and you might...
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if you have the two mics, relative sound,
you can make a snare sound like
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it's a Piccolo snare,
which may be desirable
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with the kick drum
and SansAmp,
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and then playing with high pass filters,
which also alters phase relationships.
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It's a whole nother pallet of sound to
listen to your EQ and then flip the phase.
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And then try listening to your EQ again,
doing different stuff,
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because it may be that you want it out
of phase and then EQ it to fit the track.
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So it's just another button
that doubles up the power of your EQ.
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All the EQs, by the way.
That's why I just...
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I don't like using EQs
that don't have a phase button.
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Because I don't want to have that
as a plug-in on...you know.
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I just want to put on an EQ,
start messing with it,
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and then flip the phase, mess with it,
now flip the phase back.
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If I have to do two plug-ins,
it's a big deal when you have to do that
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over and over
when you're mixing.
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It's a convenience factor having
to put either two plug-ins or one.
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I'll go for the one
that has the phase button.
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So that's why
if you see API EQs here.
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There's other
APIs I like.
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But this one was the first one that had
a phase button that actually gave you
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your line-in pre-channel with the EQ,
instead of just giving you the EQ.
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Because on an API, the EQ
didn't have a phase button.
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