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In the name of the Father,
the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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We are gathered here
in memory of...
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Jacqueline Jeantina Eugenia
Gerarda Wittenberg-Willemen.
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Widow of Willem Cornelis Wittenberg.
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A memory of an intensely involved
and caring person...
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and to an almost
incomprehensible event.
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A murder.
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Mr Louwes, what
do you expect from today?
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Sure.
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- What do you expect from the verdict?
- Do you still believe in it?
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Mr Louwes, are you nervous?
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Mr Louwes.
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- What will you hear today?
- Eh, acquittal of course.
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I still can't believe it.
- No.
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She was such a sweet person. -Yes.
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- Michael must be having a hard time.
- Yes, she was like a mother to him.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the court.
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Then you ask yourself: are the police
doing anything? I live opposite her.
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No one has been at the door.
- The family also doesn't know anything.
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She was killed on Thursday and
they didn't find her until Saturday.
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In the living room.
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The court finds proven...
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that the accused intentionally and
premeditatedly assaulted the victim...
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No, I haven't, ma'am.
- Let me finish.
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...deprived of life.
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Sorry for your loss.
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- My condolences to you too...
- We are friends of the family.
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Who was that?
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Jaqueline's
financial advisor, Louwes.
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The verdict therefore reads: the court
maintains, with improvement of grounds..
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the judgment of the Court of Appeal
in Arnhem of 22 December 2000.
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The court orders the arrest of
the accused.
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You just continue with all the
falsified arguments of the police.
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Mister Louwes...
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You wipe everything away.
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I understand your emotion,
but I haven't finished speaking yet.
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You have two weeks to appeal to
the Supreme Court of the Netherlands.
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- You know you are wrong.
- Are you coming with me?
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No, I'm not coming. No, I'm going...
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I'm not going. Damn.
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The photos and the cameras
are now stopped.
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The Judgement
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2 years earlier
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Yes, but could you please
put me through?
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How so? I didn't come up with it.
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I'm just stating the facts.
The facts, yes.
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Haan, could it be a little quieter?
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How do I get that information?
I'm not going to tell you that
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Never heard of source protection?
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Dicknose
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- Did you catch that guy yet?
- No, the same all the time.
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I ask for comments,
they tell me how I got that information.
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I can't say that and so on.
They don't even put me through.
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- And your source has nothing on paper?
- No.
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Do you like soup? -No thanks.
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Bas, do you like soup? -Delicious.
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Maybe a colleague can confirm? -Hey.
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Do you really think he will be
Prime Minister?
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I'd be surprised if he doesn't.
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But with whom can he form a coalition?
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Melkert and Dijkstal can
drink his blood.
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Rosenmöller and De Graaf
cannot sell it to their supporters.
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- Balkenende?
- Yes, the CDA would be an option.
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And what do you think, Bas?
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Bizarre.
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What?
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Do you have something nice for me?
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Who are those people,
that Waisvisz couple?
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Involved citizens.
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That attorney will file a review request
based on their investigation.
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They are handwriting experts.
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They work a lot for the judiciary,
but they do this themselves.
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Yes.
And now you want...
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Find out if it's correct.
If it is true...
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If that knife cannot
be the murder weapon
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then L. is
innocently imprisoned.
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Yes, but that story
is already in Trouw.
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Do you hear anything?
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Have you read
anything else about it?
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Apparently it wasn't picked up.
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Because everyone is
busy with those polls.
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If true, someone
innocent is incarcerated.
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- You already said that.
- Yes, but...
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It is well. It's okay.
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You may.
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According to Maurice de Hond,
the LPF will be the largest...
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in the parliamentary elections.
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Our question today: is Pim Fortuyn a
good prime minister? Good afternoon...
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- Good day.
- Hello, Ed Waisvisz.
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- I'm Wanda.
- Bas Haan.
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See what you can do with it.
Our report is on top.
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This is from the criminal file.
How did you get that?
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Van Louwes' lawyer.
We are working with him now.
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Do you also have this digitally?
- Uh-uh.
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We are not into modern frills.
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Can I copy it and show it
to someone else?
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Okay.
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And...
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There was also another suspect.
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Michaël de Jong, the widow's handyman.
He lied about his alibi.
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And he had knowledge about the
perpetrator.
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He knew the body was in the living room
and told people that...
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at her own funeral.
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He's building a case
against the suspect...
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which he eventually brings to court.
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Yet the public prosecutor is not a
crime fighter, as in American films.
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In the Dutch legal system,
the Public Prosecution Service is…
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unlike in most neighboring countries...
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both truth finder and crook catcher.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
in the back someone has just joined us.
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Network Editor, Bas Haan.
Specialized in our rule of law.
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And not so very long ago student,
as yourself.
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- Hey, Bas.
- Peter.
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What did you bring again?
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I'm not saying anything,
you have to look at it cleanly.
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It's a box,
that's as far as I dare go.
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That's why I always ask you.
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You don't believe that, do you?
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Look here.
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Short time after the robbery
and at a short distance from the house.
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In fact, three days later
and a mile away.
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The knife is not properly secured,
has been in the rain for days...
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and is linked to Louwes
via a very dubious odor test.
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In addition, the blade does not
match the depth of the stab wounds.
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In nine sentences they explained in
Arnhem why Louwes is the perpetrator.
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And everything is
linked to that knife.
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And that telephone tower.
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- I'm going after that too.
- And the other suspect?
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- The handyman?
- Yes, are you going after that?
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No
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But that's a suspect, right?
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We shouldn't play judge
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let alone make some
handyman a suspect.
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Louwes has been convicted.
There is a verdict. I can test that.
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If that doesn't work,
we can say something
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about the way the
justice system works.
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Hmm, okay. How long do you need?
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Come on, broadcast schedule, budget...
How long?
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Fortuyn was shot.
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He's laying back here, neatly dressed.
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He's been shot in the head
and he's laying with his feet crossed...
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He dropped to his knees
and fell backwards.
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- Where is it?
- That's here.
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A parking space at 3FM. No idea who...
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I meet upset employees of Ruud de Wild..
They are shaken...
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- Bas Haan.
- Ernest Louwes.
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- Thank you for welcoming me.
- Wanda said you can be trusted.
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Hopefully Wanda is too.
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The third house from the right.
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I live there.
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- Your house is opposite?
- With that green door.
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Bizarre.
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Among the items I received from
Mrs. Waisvisz was this.
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That's my diary.
Yes, I typed everything out.
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- Could I read it?
- Yes of course.
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You have to if you believe in my cause.
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Everything is in there. I wrote
everything down, from the beginning.
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Good.
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I want to start with the court's
assessment of the facts.
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The most important
evidence piece: the knife
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has already been disproved
by the Waisvisz family.
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- That leaves...
- The telephone tower.
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Yes.
Can you tell me more about that?
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Louwes says he was at Het Harde
when he called Mrs Wittenberg.
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Thirty kilometers from Deventer.
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He was with her that morning.
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She asked how much she could donate
to the church tax-free.
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He reported that from the car
at 8:36 pm that evening.
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In 16 seconds?
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With Ernest. You wanted to know how
much you could donate. 1750 guilders.
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Yes, 1750.
Sorry, I'm in the car, so I'll be brief.
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Yes. See you soon.
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14 seconds.
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- No.
- Come on, Rein. It's possible right?
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No one believes that
the knife is the weapon.
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It is possible, but it
doesn't have to.
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That telephone mast is almost
in that woman's backyard.
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How do you explain that?
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Increased radio propagation.
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- Increased what?
- Radio propagation.
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Sometimes a signal drifts.
I spoke to an expert...
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It's okay, Bas.
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- Coffee?
- Please.
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You have never seen this?
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Nee.
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Here it is.
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The police in Deventer
questioned me about
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the smell identification
test of the knife.
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They asked me for a kind of
second opinion.
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And I then indicated by letter what was
unclear about the test execution.
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Don't look into the camera
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and try to incorporate the questions
into your answers.
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First the smell test and then
point by point.
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But in court you stated that you found
the smell test strong evidence.
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Yes, because the reports
I saw then were in order.
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- Ready?
- Er, yes.
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It looks like they used that letter...
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to improve the original reports.
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- Did they cheat?
- Yes.
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Mister van Koppen, as an expert in the
field of miscarriages of justice
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how do you view
the conviction of Ernest L.?
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If you put the reports side by side,
the numbers don't match.
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There are weird dates.
Subsequent reports were drawn up.
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It is unclear where
the knife was kept and stored.
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And then you are not
allowed to do a sorting test.
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Dog handlers are expected
to check this. That didn't happen.
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Nice.
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Just a voice-over and the presentation
text for Aart and we're good to go.
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Good job, Haan.
This is going to cause quite a stir.
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Ernest L. was sentenced to 12 years in
prison for murder in Deventer.
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It now appears with
very questionable evidence.
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After his conviction on appeal
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an independent agency conducted
an investigation...
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and came with damning conclusions about…
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If the bookkeeper didn't do it,
then who did?
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Didn't that widow have a butler?
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Ah, there he is. Louwes?
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Louwes? Mister Louwes?
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Are you happy that your
case is being reviewed?
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Come on. Watch your head.
Watch out guys. Watch out, watch out.
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Watch your fingers.
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Bas, what are you doing man?
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Goddamn.
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Here it is.
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Papa.
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Hey honey.
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- I missed you so much.
- Oh, baby.
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Oh, honey, how
glad I am to see you.
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Oh, honey. You're out, honey.
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- Honey. We won.
- Ernest.
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- I'll see you later.
- Yes, I'll see you later.
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Bye, honey.
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Sorry.
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A deal is a deal.
You have every right to the scoop.
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I wouldn't be here without you.
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How did you pass the time,
those three years?
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It was fine at first, but I haven't done
anything in the last few months.
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Also unable to do anything.
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- One, close.
- Attention, title Louwes.
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I wrote a little, I read a lot.
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But at some point that
doesn't work anymore.
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Interesting, I would expect it the
other way around
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At first you think: I'm innocent,
I'll never get out of here, but...
247
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,630
Well, I've always believed it would
turn out alright.
248
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,654
That might sound strange
considering it took that long
249
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:36,000
but I've always believed that.
250
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:42,156
Perhaps a strange thought, because it
isn't my fault, but someone else's.
251
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,440
And that I happen to be
sitting here today.
252
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- Enjoy your meal.
- Thank you.
253
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,600
Thank you.
254
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,560
Proud?
255
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,440
Don't act like you don't understand me,
asshole.
256
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First day of review
257
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Good luck.
258
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Ladies and gentlemen, the court.
259
00:23:45,913 --> 00:23:47,320
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
260
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You can sit down.
261
00:23:53,624 --> 00:23:57,360
Mr. Louwes, we are here to
review your case.
262
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,097
A case that is now known in the media
as the Deventer murder case.
263
00:24:02,734 --> 00:24:08,717
After the knife evidence fell apart,
supporting evidence also lost its power.
264
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,988
Like the telephone conversation via the
mobile phone mast in Deventer...
265
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,184
that made probable that the suspect was
in Deventer around the murder.
266
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,720
The court in Arnhem could therefore not
have come to proven statement...
267
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,840
on the present evidence.
268
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,168
Also not if the evidence is considered
in conjunction with other clues.
269
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,640
However, another NFI report came to my
attention this morning.
270
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,467
And it concerns the
result of a DNA test.
271
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,000
This research shows...
272
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:49,480
that Mr. Louwes' DNA was found
on the victim's clothing.
273
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,280
Namely on the blouse Mrs. Wittenberg
was wearing when she was murdered.
274
00:24:55,006 --> 00:24:59,840
I can't say exactly what the situation
is with the DNA. I just received it.
275
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:03,412
And I still have to dig into
its consequences.
276
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,327
New DNA Evidence?
277
00:25:09,377 --> 00:25:11,240
The details will come
the next session day.
278
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,280
In a month and a half.
279
00:25:13,330 --> 00:25:16,400
That interview with
Louwes at home is tonight.
280
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,729
Louwes visited the widow
on the morning of the murder
281
00:25:18,779 --> 00:25:20,229
the OM knows that.
282
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,480
If he put a hand on her shoulder,
there's already DNA.
283
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,840
- So just broadcast?
- Sure.
284
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,146
The interview is only about
Louwes' experience
285
00:25:29,196 --> 00:25:30,960
what it is like to be free again.
286
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,880
- Really very touching.
- I'll get the tissues ready.
287
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,920
Today the revision case against
Ernest Louwes started in Den Bosch.
288
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,640
Before the trial started, we spoke with
Louwes about this special case...
289
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,320
and his bizarre years in prison.
Bas Haan reports.
290
00:26:03,446 --> 00:26:05,188
You are free, of course
291
00:26:05,499 --> 00:26:11,054
But your life has basically
become miserable.
292
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,520
And that often feels very awful.
293
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,108
Mich?
294
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,720
And that is sometimes difficult.
295
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,680
Mich, come. Louwes is on TV.
296
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,886
It would be best if the perpetrator
is quickly arrested.
297
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,331
So everyone knows I have
nothing to do with it.
298
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,920
Of course that would be the...
the most, most beautiful thing.
299
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,314
That man gives me the creeps.
300
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,040
I would very much
like to have that, yes.
301
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Okay, then we'll talk about that.
302
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,440
- Yes.
- Peter R. de Vries.
303
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,160
Um, oh no, sorry. I'll call you
back in a minute.
304
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,253
- What's that?
- A fax from Peter R. de Vries.
305
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,120
He also watched last night.
And how annoyed he got...
306
00:27:38,136 --> 00:27:40,768
that I didn't mention
307
00:27:41,278 --> 00:27:44,003
the pretty spectacular news...
308
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,840
that Louwes' DNA was found
on the blouse of the widow.
309
00:27:50,232 --> 00:27:54,849
Yes, he's right, isn't he?
You didn't report it, did you?
310
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,200
Vanity, Bas.
311
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Fuck.
312
00:28:11,137 --> 00:28:14,520
We found DNA from Mr. Louwes...
313
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,560
in places that correspond with
how the victim was killed.
314
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,760
Mrs. Wittenberg was not only stabbed,
but also strangled.
315
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,560
It involves material near the
broken ribs. The killer used force.
316
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,999
And these red-pink spots
317
00:28:39,049 --> 00:28:41,828
eventually turned out to be
facial foundation.
318
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,705
Which was reasonably spread by the
killer during the strangling.
319
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,285
Apart from these contact traces
320
00:28:52,627 --> 00:28:57,080
we also found this
stain in the collar...
321
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,840
with the DNA of Mr. Louwes.
And this is blood.
322
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,720
Except that it takes liquid blood...
323
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,276
we cannot determine with 100%
certainty how that blood got there.
324
00:29:14,981 --> 00:29:18,073
But all these traces support
the hypothesis that
325
00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:21,426
the DNA was transferred
during the crime.
326
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,120
And again: all this DNA
comes from Mr. Louwes.
327
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Mr. Louwes.
Are you nervous for today?
328
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,026
Mr Louwes, are you nervous?
What do you expect from the verdict?
329
00:30:28,957 --> 00:30:29,989
Mr Louwes,
330
00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:32,013
what are you
going to hear today?
331
00:30:32,098 --> 00:30:34,799
Er, acquittal of course.
332
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Are you sure?
333
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:42,800
Yes. Yeah, I've always assumed that,
so uh... that's for sure, yes.
334
00:30:43,246 --> 00:30:46,960
Yet last week the judiciary
made many people doubt.
335
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120
You would be a top actor
who makes everything up.
336
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,872
Yes, but well, the only top actor
is the OM itself.
337
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,960
They did get me convicted once, so...
338
00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:03,840
What if
the verdict today reads: guilty?
339
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,880
But it's not like that.
340
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080
I have to go. Will I see you later?
341
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,080
This means that the court finds proven..
342
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,720
that the accused intentionally and
premeditatedly assaulted the victim...
343
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,000
- I haven't, ma'am.
- Let me finish.
344
00:31:33,377 --> 00:31:38,160
...deprived of life. The court orders
the arrest of the accused.
345
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,760
- No no no.
- The ruling...
346
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,640
- I'm not getting picked up again.
- The court rules...
347
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,360
The court maintains,
under improvement of grounds...
348
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,880
the judgment of the Court of Appeal
in Arnhem of 22 December 2000.
349
00:31:52,995 --> 00:31:54,920
The court orders imprisonment.
350
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,640
You just continue with all the
falsified arguments of the police.
351
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,080
You just wipe everything away.
352
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,000
You are wiping everything away.
353
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,320
I understand your emotion,
but I haven't finished speaking yet.
354
00:32:08,564 --> 00:32:11,118
If you disagree with the ruling
355
00:32:11,399 --> 00:32:14,853
you have two weeks to appeal to the
Supreme Court of the Netherlands.
356
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,320
- You know you are wrong.
- Are you coming with me?
357
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,360
No, I'm not coming. No, I'm going...
358
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,960
I'm not... Damn it.
359
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000
The cameras are now…
360
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,520
The photos and the cameras
are now stopped.
361
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,120
You can't just act that.
Right, Bas?
362
00:33:17,921 --> 00:33:20,480
Oh come on, man.
You have eyes in your head, right?
363
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,480
He didn't do it,
can't you feel it?
364
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:26,731
His blood was in the collar,
but we feel he didn't do it.
365
00:33:26,781 --> 00:33:28,069
This was the news, good evening.
366
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,520
Come on.
367
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,360
So, folks. You know there's a
broadcast tonight, right?
368
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,640
See you later.
369
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,840
So...
370
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,400
No acquittal.
371
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,880
That's too bad.
372
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,040
- Better luck next time.
- What do you mean?
373
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,960
- Well, it's done.
- Finished?
374
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,560
I think someone just said that the
blood in the collar can't be ignored.
375
00:34:03,376 --> 00:34:05,960
Rein only said that
a feeling isn't news.
376
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,520
Well, we can't go on feeling.
377
00:34:08,845 --> 00:34:11,720
Whoa, wait. There are still
plenty of questions, aren't there?
378
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,560
- Real questions.
- Bas...
379
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,786
One: they tampered
with the evidence before
380
00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:17,840
with the reporting
on the knife earlier
381
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,880
And that blouse was
administratively lost for a while.
382
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,280
Two: there is no DNA from Louwes
under the nails of the widow.
383
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,880
While Knoops rightly argued that
this would be the case in a struggle.
384
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,908
Three: new facts have come to light.
385
00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:36,800
But nobody knows enough about
DNA to judge them.
386
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,400
- Bas...
- It's our job as journalists...
387
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,320
It's my job to make a
whole program every night.
388
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,960
I can't allow more time and budget with
those facts and the conviction.
389
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,960
I can't justify it!
390
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,480
Management won't have it.
391
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Until new developments come around,
Deventer is on the back burner.
392
00:34:58,767 --> 00:35:03,080
- There is also other news.
- You mean that stranded sperm whale.
393
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,680
Bas... Take off the afternoon.
Cool down.
394
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,776
But after that it's over.
395
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,550
Finished.
396
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Boy oh boy.
397
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,800
Evelien?
398
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Bas.
399
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,240
Glad you wanted to come.
400
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,760
Yeah, I didn't know
it was so public here.
401
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Top criminals also meet
in roadside restaurants.
402
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,581
Don't worry, I'm not going to
ask any difficult questions.
403
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,571
I just wanted to know
more about that
404
00:37:24,622 --> 00:37:27,040
DNA course you followed
at the Justice Department.
405
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,800
They don't invite me.
406
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,640
If I tell everything I heard,
I'll violate my duty of confidentiality.
407
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:38,760
But isn't it a general course,
the use of DNA in criminal cases?
408
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,840
- Would you like to order something?
- A regular coffee, please.
409
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,280
A cappuccino.
410
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,360
- I want absolute anonymity.
- I guarantee it.
411
00:37:53,928 --> 00:37:56,603
No one will ever find out
that you talked to me
412
00:37:57,114 --> 00:37:58,840
no matter what you say.
413
00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:06,120
The Public Prosecution Service and the
NFI have withheld DNA evidence.
414
00:38:06,762 --> 00:38:09,320
As a result, an innocent man
is now incarcerated.
415
00:38:11,447 --> 00:38:12,720
Ernest Louwes?
416
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,969
Kees B.
417
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Schiedam park murder.
418
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:26,720
Succes.
419
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Five, four, three...
420
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,840
Four past eight. This is Network.
421
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,698
Incriminating evidence was withheld in
the Schiedam park murder
422
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,240
How the judiciary wanted to keep an
innocent prisoner locked up for life.
423
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680
A report by Bas Haan.
424
00:39:04,157 --> 00:39:05,360
Hey, man, good day.
425
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,000
A package for you.
426
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,800
Thank you.
427
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,240
Hey
428
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,440
Bad conscience?
429
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,280
Make some room.
430
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,201
Guys what...
431
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Congratulations on your first scoop
as a reporter.
432
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,600
Thank you.
433
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:12,920
Guys...
434
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Well, blow, Haan.
435
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,560
Speech.
436
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,080
Cake?
437
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,520
Well, please.
438
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,840
I was at a meeting of Maurice de Hond
this morning.
439
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,880
- More seats for Wilders?
- No.
440
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,600
He had polled the effect of Schiedam on
our confidence in the rule of law.
441
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,560
- I'm guessing it had dropped.
- Dramatic.
442
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,810
But the OM is working on improvement.
443
00:40:42,861 --> 00:40:43,869
Yes
444
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,240
Schiedam was only the start,
he is know looking at Deventer.
445
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,440
- Maurice?
- Hmhm.
446
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,000
- At Deventer?
- Yes.
447
00:40:51,390 --> 00:40:55,400
He claims to have a lot of new evidence
that exonerates Louwes.
448
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,280
Seriously?
449
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,671
Did he mention what he found?
450
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Do you know who his source is?
451
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,024
- Does he have a new witness?
- I didn't ask.
452
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Tonight he will sit at Matthijs.
453
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,000
Maurice de Hond, welcome.
454
00:41:17,105 --> 00:41:18,960
Polls are your business.
455
00:41:19,195 --> 00:41:22,360
- Yes.
- You started another campaign today.
456
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,198
You would like to review and reopen the
Deventer murder case of 1999.
457
00:41:28,730 --> 00:41:30,072
Why?
458
00:41:30,122 --> 00:41:31,840
Well, I'm just a civilian too.
459
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,400
And as a citizen,
I am interested in the rule of law.
460
00:41:35,957 --> 00:41:41,863
And in 2003 or 2004, Ernest Louwes
was convicted in the third instance...
461
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,120
after he was first released
by the Supreme Court
462
00:41:45,456 --> 00:41:49,467
and when I saw that on TV,
my stomach turned.
463
00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:55,600
After that I received all sorts of
information from people close to Louwes.
464
00:41:55,651 --> 00:41:58,627
I couldn't believe what I read. This
couldn't happen in this country.
465
00:41:58,893 --> 00:42:01,800
The Netherlands has a constitution.
I couldn't believe it.
466
00:42:02,401 --> 00:42:06,440
Only until the Schiedam park murder
came on TV earlier this year
467
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,400
First on Netwerk, but more importantly
later in the report of OM.
468
00:42:11,515 --> 00:42:14,680
Kees B. was unjustly
imprisoned for murder.
469
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,015
It's kind of a mix between
"Keystone Cops"...
470
00:42:18,065 --> 00:42:21,280
with Inspector Clouseau from "The
Pink Panther" and Mr Bean.
471
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,760
Isn't that part of the excitement?
472
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,360
With the Schiedam case you see
how many mistakes...
473
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,080
He just keeps linking those cases.
474
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,320
Also on his site.
475
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,194
Here.
476
00:42:36,835 --> 00:42:39,160
Schiedam, Deventer.
477
00:42:39,381 --> 00:42:43,920
And here. But that in itself
isn't so illogical, is it?
478
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Because they messed up in Schiedam,
they also screwed up Deventer?
479
00:42:48,551 --> 00:42:50,440
That is no argument,
that's bullshit.
480
00:42:50,660 --> 00:42:55,200
Besides, in Schiedam the withheld DNA
proved Kees B.'s innocence...
481
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,600
while in Deventer the found
DNA proves Louwes' guilt.
482
00:42:58,996 --> 00:43:02,760
But many people doubt
whether Louwes did it.
483
00:43:03,183 --> 00:43:06,880
With all due respect, Gerda, those
people don't know fuck all, don't they?
484
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,364
Well, Maurice
is not just anyone.
485
00:43:09,718 --> 00:43:12,600
This isn't a poll,
it's a murder case.
486
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,947
What?
487
00:43:17,088 --> 00:43:19,560
Second chances are
rare in our business.
488
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,640
Not so long ago you also
had doubts about Louwes.
489
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,634
That's right.
490
00:43:26,736 --> 00:43:31,840
Schiedam was a crash course in DNA.
Conclusion: DNA, no way around it.
491
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,800
That blood in that collar is a fact,
and that blood belongs to Louwes.
492
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,198
Unless the blood is fraudulent.
493
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,013
According to Louwes
the evidence has been faked.
494
00:43:42,063 --> 00:43:44,070
But Maurice has no hard proof of that.
495
00:43:44,121 --> 00:43:45,560
I took a good look.
496
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,883
So?
497
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:49,920
- No news?
- Gerda.
498
00:43:50,641 --> 00:43:53,560
Maurice is just a celebrity
with an opinion.
499
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,360
Okay.
500
00:44:06,409 --> 00:44:09,960
On principle, you shouldn't
prune in winter.
501
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,160
The plant needs to lose moisture.
502
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960
If you prune too much,
you will get fungus.
503
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,200
Good afternoon.
504
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,440
Good afternoon.
505
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,080
- Hello?
- Are you Meike Wittermans?
506
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,240
- The handyman's girlfriend?
- Handyman?
507
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Yes, from Widow Wittenberg.
508
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,320
Did you see this, man?
They are calling you the handyman.
509
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,000
What is this all about?
510
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,160
- I don't quite understand...
- We just want to ask some questions.
511
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,396
Things that are unclear.
512
00:45:22,615 --> 00:45:25,568
At the time, you and your husband
were questioned by the police
513
00:45:25,664 --> 00:45:29,320
And made contradictory statements about
the time at which Michael came home.
514
00:45:29,575 --> 00:45:32,400
- Right?
- Yes, that was a mistake, yes.
515
00:45:36,156 --> 00:45:37,160
A mistake?
516
00:45:37,445 --> 00:45:39,172
Yes, a mistake, yes.
517
00:45:39,617 --> 00:45:43,640
Can you precisely remember where
you wife was last Tuesday at 20:30?
518
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,467
There was no murder that night.
519
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,094
No, exactly.
520
00:45:48,260 --> 00:45:53,280
And we had nothing to do with
that murder, so why would I remember?
521
00:45:55,076 --> 00:45:57,280
I've already explained all this.
522
00:45:58,889 --> 00:46:02,960
You do not have to be scared.
We can take you to a safe place.
523
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Who are you?
524
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,742
Can you identify yourself?
525
00:46:10,191 --> 00:46:11,440
Be honest.
526
00:46:11,686 --> 00:46:16,280
Wouldn't it be nice if you could throw
that burden off your shoulders?
527
00:46:16,475 --> 00:46:19,800
- Come clean
- You can't just show up at my work.
528
00:46:20,514 --> 00:46:22,459
That was the whole plan.
529
00:46:22,592 --> 00:46:25,047
If he's not here,
you can talk freely.
530
00:46:25,232 --> 00:46:28,247
Ma'am, come with us.
531
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,120
We can protect you.
532
00:46:30,372 --> 00:46:32,960
- He can't touch you.
- What do you think?
533
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,240
We have nothing to do with this case.
Can you get out of here now?
534
00:46:37,629 --> 00:46:40,680
I'm calling the police.
The real police.
535
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Okay.
536
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Who do you actually work for?
537
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,853
Maurice has been invited by the
President of the Board of Attorneys...
538
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:39,000
to personally explain his actions and
doubts in the Deventer murder case.
539
00:47:39,211 --> 00:47:40,611
What?
540
00:47:41,024 --> 00:47:42,760
How did he manage that?
541
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,107
I also don't understand.
542
00:47:50,091 --> 00:47:53,880
Do you think I can talk to Brouwer
about my parking tickets?
543
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,080
Then you first have to appear
on 'De Wereld Draait Door'
544
00:47:57,468 --> 00:48:02,200
It's all PR. Restore the trust in the
law; citizens speak up.
545
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,593
But preferably a citizen
who works in media, please.
546
00:48:04,851 --> 00:48:07,257
Thanks to us, huh.
Thanks to us.
547
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,255
It's news... by now.
548
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920
And the news just came out.
549
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,829
Good morning, mister De Hond.
550
00:48:32,879 --> 00:48:37,040
You have just come from a meeting with
the boss of the judiciary. About what?
551
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,627
Yes, about the Deventer
murder case...
552
00:48:39,677 --> 00:48:42,560
and the fact that the wrong
perpetrator is incarcerated.
553
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,320
And that we now know, at least we do,
who the real perpetrator is.
554
00:48:47,577 --> 00:48:49,360
You know it.
Does he know it too?
555
00:48:49,573 --> 00:48:51,628
Well, he knows what I know.
556
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,880
Of course it isn't easy to
immediately come out and say: it is so.
557
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,310
The fact that the research
is reopened indicates...
558
00:49:00,615 --> 00:49:02,669
that they have
sufficient doubts...
559
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:06,120
about whether they have done the right
thing in the past.
560
00:49:15,330 --> 00:49:18,600
- He is quite confident in himself.
- Quite?
561
00:49:19,634 --> 00:49:21,120
He already has
the fucking culprit.
562
00:49:22,278 --> 00:49:23,280
What now?
563
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,640
On to casa 'De Hond'.
564
00:49:29,154 --> 00:49:32,320
Mr. De Hond.
What do you expect law enforcement to do
565
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,760
with the incriminating information
you unearthed about the handyman?
566
00:49:36,013 --> 00:49:41,720
I only ask for a proper investigation.
I'm not condemning that man yet.
567
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,840
I think for 99.99% if not a
100% that he did it...
568
00:49:47,082 --> 00:49:48,880
but I'm not a judge.
569
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,280
My only responsibility with
the information is to say:
570
00:49:52,465 --> 00:49:55,880
Anyone who
reads this information...
571
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,200
thinks more research should be done.
572
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:05,280
Because if only two of my fifteen
hypotheses are true, he's the culprit.
573
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,990
Is it him?
574
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,800
Yes, 100% sure.
575
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,760
- That's tunnel vision.
- No.
576
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,360
He has not yet been convicted.
577
00:50:14,538 --> 00:50:15,920
But I'm not a judge.
578
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,480
You are also not a detective. And can't
read the pieces as a detective.
579
00:50:19,739 --> 00:50:25,120
Your are convinced. Are you allowed to
determine that it is him?
580
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:28,840
No, I can't say to him:
You get twelve years.
581
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,120
I may say, That's my... I mean, why not?
He's it, 100% sure.
582
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:35,640
100%.
583
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,240
100%?
584
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,720
- That's what he said?
- Yes.
585
00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:47,560
- And we have that exclusively?
- Yes but...
586
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,760
Yes, but under embargo?
587
00:50:49,832 --> 00:50:51,996
As soon as the OM comes
up with something, we can go.
588
00:50:52,047 --> 00:50:53,800
So we have agreed
with Maurice... But...
589
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,600
But?
590
00:50:56,212 --> 00:50:58,332
It's quite an accusation.
591
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,280
Er, press release from the OM.
592
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,760
At the request of the
Board of Attorneys...
593
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,680
an exploratory investigation has started
into the Deventer murder case.
594
00:51:11,909 --> 00:51:12,949
What?
595
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,524
An exploratory investigation?
There is no such thing.
596
00:51:18,574 --> 00:51:20,440
Well, yes, now there is.
597
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,745
And it's the OM,
so we're allowed.
598
00:51:23,232 --> 00:51:26,320
Yes, but without that
quote about the handyman.
599
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,841
Sorry?
600
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,641
Someone is accused of murder
601
00:51:31,076 --> 00:51:33,440
without any hard evidence.
602
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,385
You elicited that
statement from him yourself.
603
00:51:36,435 --> 00:51:38,497
That's why I'm
going to block it.
604
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,040
Bas, this is news.
605
00:51:41,591 --> 00:51:44,642
You can't just accuse someone of
murder on TV. Maurice...
606
00:51:44,693 --> 00:51:47,360
Maurice is just a celebrity
with an opinion, yes.
607
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,169
But if the judicial system
takes him seriously...
608
00:51:50,325 --> 00:51:53,973
and even starts an
exploratory investigation...
609
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Something which, according to you,
has never happened yet.
610
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,520
...then that's news.
611
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,198
I'm only asking for a
proper investigation.
612
00:52:09,248 --> 00:52:11,360
I'm not judging that man today.
613
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,480
I think 99.99% if not 100%
that he did it...
614
00:52:16,785 --> 00:52:18,520
but I'm not a judge.
615
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,295
My only job with
the information is to say:
616
00:52:23,382 --> 00:52:25,480
Anyone who
reads the information...
617
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,840
thinks more research should be done.
618
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,853
Because if only two of my fifteen
hypotheses are true, he's the culprit.
619
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Is it him?
620
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,799
Yes, 100% sure.
621
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,600
That's tunnel vision.
622
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:10,298
Come here. Hey, come here.
623
00:53:16,735 --> 00:53:19,829
Hello, this is Michaël and
Meike's answering machine.
624
00:53:19,985 --> 00:53:23,800
We aren't in at the moment, but leave
a message after the beep. Thank you.
625
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,280
Hey, Michael, pick up then,
you filthy retard.
626
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,968
I hope they also strangle you...
627
00:53:30,054 --> 00:53:31,682
like you strangled
that old woman.
628
00:53:31,737 --> 00:53:32,905
You cowardly bastard.
629
00:53:32,956 --> 00:53:35,840
You too, Meike, you dirty whore.
630
00:53:46,661 --> 00:53:48,840
Hello, this is the answering machine...
631
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,800
Bas.
632
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Did you read it?
633
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,339
De Telegraaf, Volkskrant, AD,
all on the front page.
634
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Congratulations man.
635
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,520
Goddamnit.
636
00:54:36,995 --> 00:54:42,032
He says Michael van J. probably did it.
637
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,440
That man has a letter in which the
judiciary says: You are not a suspect.
638
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,360
Can a citizen actually do that?
639
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,744
Shouldn't you be
happy that the judiciary investigates
640
00:54:52,794 --> 00:54:55,040
and just leave it them?
641
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,160
No, the point is: why did the
judiciary start to investigate?
642
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,240
Why have they never investigated
it in Schiedam?
643
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,680
Apparently the judiciary only
moves under hard pressure.
644
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,040
- But they are moving now.
- The point is why...
645
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:17,074
because the piece on my website
has been sent to the OM.
646
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,480
We said: This is our proof,
go do something.
647
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:27,303
But they are busy now. Why don't you
keep a low profile for now?
648
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,640
It is of course not in the interest
of the judges, the OM, the judiciary...
649
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,640
to say now: Louwes is not it
and the other one might be.
650
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,400
Because then it will be a
bigger scandal than Schiedam.
651
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,800
Mich... Maybe we should consider what
that lawyer said: give an interview.
652
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,480
No.
653
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,240
I'm not going to do that.
654
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:56,560
Really.
655
00:55:57,357 --> 00:56:02,080
But there's also the 1% chance,
which you mention yourself...
656
00:56:02,302 --> 00:56:05,920
that Michael didn't do it.
Then you caused quite something.
657
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,640
- Then I will bear the consequences.
- They can go very far.
658
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,861
We'll see.
659
00:56:11,987 --> 00:56:13,682
What's the matter with that guy?
660
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:19,520
Maurice is on campaign.
It's not about the content.
661
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,480
It's about the PR.
662
00:56:22,139 --> 00:56:24,840
Not to be right,
but to get his right.
663
00:56:25,146 --> 00:56:30,560
Last month Brouwer was his best friend,
now he is part of the plot.
664
00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:33,520
Brouwer actually hoisted
him on the shield.
665
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,616
Not just Brouwer, right?
666
00:56:36,163 --> 00:56:39,007
If I remember correctly,
Maurice also got a lot...
667
00:56:39,165 --> 00:56:42,120
of airtime on a certain
current affairs program.
668
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,701
"It's the handyman."
669
00:56:45,568 --> 00:56:46,920
'100% sure.'
670
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,360
Okay. Second chance, very good,
one more time then.
671
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,960
This time all the way.
Everything and everyone.
672
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,240
Not just what Maurice does.
Every fart from that man is covered.
673
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,840
I was just looking for you.
Press release OM, just came in.
674
00:57:14,381 --> 00:57:17,294
Interim conclusion
exploratory investigation:
675
00:57:17,608 --> 00:57:19,080
five additional contact traces...
676
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,983
and a trail of blood, all from Louwes.
677
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,520
- Do you have to go?
- No, I'm going to smoke.
678
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,920
- Outside?
- Some bore has complained.
679
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,040
That bloody smoking ban...
680
00:57:34,892 --> 00:57:37,520
So it says nothing about
Michael de Jong.
681
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,120
I can already hear Maurice calling it:
cover up.
682
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,886
Can I conclude from
this that you are now...
683
00:57:47,936 --> 00:57:51,600
investigating the handyman,
and not just Louwes?
684
00:57:51,944 --> 00:57:55,240
That's what I said.
The whole story, everything.
685
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,810
And how long do you need for that?
686
00:58:02,662 --> 00:58:06,400
The whole story, checking everything
from Maurice about the handyman...
687
00:58:06,718 --> 00:58:08,092
Louwes one more time...
688
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,160
- Two, three...
- ...weeks.
689
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,400
...months.
690
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,514
But what if Maurice
turns out to be right?
691
00:58:22,475 --> 00:58:26,631
If he has the facts on his side, I'll
carry him around on a silver shield.
692
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,080
100% sure.
693
00:58:29,419 --> 00:58:32,640
I'll ignore the cynicism for now.
But we don't have broadcast.
694
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Of course. You must also dare
to broadcast your faults.
695
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,095
Bas, it is not
a question of daring.
696
00:58:38,716 --> 00:58:40,220
It is journalistic suicide.
697
00:58:40,294 --> 00:58:43,680
So it's open road for circus
De Hond then? I believe it's our job...
698
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,800
Oh my gosh, not again.
699
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,240
Saint Bas.
700
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Do you think
that the handyman did it?
701
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,160
Don't know. I don't think so.
702
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,440
Two months.
703
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,160
Drug addict.
704
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,120
Benefit fraudster.
705
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,760
Hit rock bottom.
706
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,196
Debts as a result of
very high spending patterns.
707
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,960
Perpetrator knowledge.
708
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,021
He and his girlfriend would have
lied about their alibis.
709
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,000
And then this one.
710
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:56,040
Michael was a patient of psychiatrist
Wittenberg, the husband of the widow.
711
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,560
Because of tantrums.
712
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,560
- How did he get all this information?
- From witnesses.
713
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,600
Because of the publicity,
everyone approaches him.
714
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,960
People who suddenly remember everything
after seven years, often anonymously.
715
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,600
Lots of facts, but no sources.
It cannot be checked directly.
716
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,600
It's a lot.
There must be some truth to it, right?
717
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,440
Yes but what?
718
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,141
There's nothing in it that
makes him a murderer.
719
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,040
But okay.
720
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,560
The handyman did have a motive,
according to Maurice.
721
01:00:31,779 --> 01:00:34,600
Louwes not according to the judges.
Here.
722
01:00:35,373 --> 01:00:39,280
"The handyman was in the
widow's original will...
723
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,130
with a tax-free legacy
of 50,000 guilders...
724
01:00:43,607 --> 01:00:48,200
which was lowered in the new will
ten days before the murder...
725
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,148
to 25,000 guilders.
726
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:52,993
That's why, and
because of debts...
727
01:00:53,210 --> 01:00:55,759
he would have killed her
in a drunken brawl.'
728
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,280
According to Maurice.
729
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,920
Not known to you? In no registry?
730
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,389
No theft, benefit fraud,
drunk driving, whatever?
731
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Can I quote you on that? Super.
732
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,120
- Here.
- Ah, thank you.
733
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,600
What is that?
734
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,960
- You know that, right?
- Ah, that adoption thingy.
735
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,080
Yes.
736
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,920
Can you picture it?
737
01:01:59,334 --> 01:02:01,360
And can I get that woman too, hm?
738
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,560
If I get that man too.
739
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Come here.
740
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,480
- Are you OK?
- Yes.
741
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,840
- Shall I go to the girls?
- No, I'm coming.
742
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,795
Hey, come here.
Well done.
743
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:29,040
There's nothing wrong. Yes, good, good.
744
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,440
Well done.
745
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,280
Very good, very good.
746
01:03:35,827 --> 01:03:37,920
Hey, hey, sst.
747
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
- Mich?
- Yes, what?
748
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,360
- We have to do something.
- Yes, what then?
749
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,135
I think we need to
talk to that journalist.
750
01:03:49,529 --> 01:03:51,840
But then I have to go
on TV to defend myself.
751
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,360
That man sends private investigators
to my work.
752
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,480
Then I have to tell on TV
how I got that perpetrator knowledge.
753
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,200
- Jan Vlug.
- Good afternoon, Mr Vlug.
754
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,240
- Who am I speaking to?
- With Bas Haan.
755
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,395
Bas Haan.
756
01:04:31,445 --> 01:04:34,600
I would like to speak with a
client of you, Michael de Jong.
757
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:36,400
I can not reach him.
758
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,113
Oh, so you thought,
let me call his lawyer?
759
01:04:40,754 --> 01:04:45,080
- I assume you can reach him.
- He doesn't want to speak to you.
760
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,080
Hello.
761
01:04:52,619 --> 01:04:54,699
Did anything happen today?
762
01:05:01,753 --> 01:05:04,040
Mr Haan, let me be clear.
763
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:09,535
According to me and my client,
you are part of the Mr. De Hond group.
764
01:05:10,058 --> 01:05:12,880
You have made more than
ten broadcasts about this case.
765
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,089
And in the last one, Mr. De Hond
got to call my client a murderer...
766
01:05:17,236 --> 01:05:19,160
in front of the whole nation.
767
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,080
'100% sure.'
768
01:05:22,377 --> 01:05:25,880
I understand your reaction,
but I only care about the facts.
769
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,880
I can't investigate a lot,
without his explanation.
770
01:05:32,752 --> 01:05:35,040
You wanted to speak to me?
771
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,680
Sit down.
772
01:05:38,587 --> 01:05:42,400
I'm not judging anyone,
but given all the media attention...
773
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:47,240
it may be in your client's interest
to highlight his side of the story.
774
01:05:49,066 --> 01:05:54,440
First you make his life hell
and now he has to tell his story...
775
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,640
so that you have your next broadcast.
776
01:05:58,011 --> 01:06:02,080
It must be weird, huh,
all that stuff in the media.
777
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,793
Pf. It's a nightmare.
778
01:06:05,428 --> 01:06:07,228
And especially for Meike.
779
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,270
Maurice's accusations about you
are not nothing...
780
01:06:12,785 --> 01:06:16,000
No, but that man is insane you know.
781
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,634
I would like to point out that
Michael and his girlfriend...
782
01:06:22,684 --> 01:06:24,840
are very fond of their privacy.
783
01:06:25,103 --> 01:06:28,680
These are people who don't need
or want to be in the picture.
784
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,580
Unlike some others.
785
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:32,720
Those people exist, Mr. Haan.
786
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,059
Personally, I understand them very
well. Better than you probably think.
787
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,290
But as long as they don't defend
themselves, Maurice can shoot freely.
788
01:06:43,110 --> 01:06:44,480
For the last time...
789
01:06:44,673 --> 01:06:50,118
My clients don't want to answer for
something they have no part in.
790
01:06:50,639 --> 01:06:54,487
And for Mr. De Hond, he will
soon have to answer for himself...
791
01:06:54,538 --> 01:06:56,200
when I sue him for libel.
792
01:06:56,396 --> 01:06:57,760
Bye Mr. Haan.
793
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,320
Shit.
794
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,960
Shit, shit, shit.
795
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,512
There are customers of
ours who would rather...
796
01:07:07,562 --> 01:07:09,815
not have you come
to them anymore.
797
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,920
Who?
798
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,520
Customers.
799
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,257
Have I lost my job?
800
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,480
Who are you?
801
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,000
Who are you?
802
01:07:56,330 --> 01:07:57,529
Who are you?
803
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,400
Leave us alone.
804
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,640
Leave me alone.
805
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,200
How is it going?
806
01:08:21,952 --> 01:08:23,406
It has been a long time.
807
01:08:24,109 --> 01:08:25,680
Long time, indeed.
808
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,600
Good to have you here.
809
01:08:28,921 --> 01:08:31,880
A lot of people are sticking up
for me now...
810
01:08:32,210 --> 01:08:36,080
but you were one of the first
to believe and stand up for me.
811
01:08:50,203 --> 01:08:52,390
I've dived into the matter again.
812
01:08:53,257 --> 01:08:55,555
I've put everything back together.
813
01:08:56,711 --> 01:08:59,960
You were with Mrs. Wittenberg
the morning of the murder.
814
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,481
In your diary you write
that she was wearing something red.
815
01:09:06,419 --> 01:09:12,080
"I can't remember whether it was a dress
or a suit, but the color was red."
816
01:09:15,336 --> 01:09:18,520
But the blouse she wore when she
was killed, was white.
817
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,211
Yes...
818
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:30,238
You always said the DNA got on her
blouse during your visit that morning.
819
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,600
What I don't understand,
is how it got on that white blouse.
820
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,280
Wasn't she wearing something red?
821
01:09:49,402 --> 01:09:52,418
And speaking of that white blouse...
822
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,090
That blood in the collar,
how did they get it?
823
01:09:58,894 --> 01:10:02,080
Um, I donated blood in 1999.
824
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,320
- In my cell, for a DNA profile.
- Where is that written down?
825
01:10:06,440 --> 01:10:08,158
I must have read over it.
826
01:10:08,534 --> 01:10:11,120
I could hardly have
written everything down.
827
01:10:11,533 --> 01:10:14,455
123 typed pages...
828
01:10:14,706 --> 01:10:18,182
of literally every detail
since your arrest.
829
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,270
And then they come into
your cell, take your blood,
830
01:10:22,643 --> 01:10:24,480
and you don't write that down?
831
01:10:43,016 --> 01:10:47,484
In '99 they put my DNA profile
in the database.
832
01:10:48,758 --> 01:10:53,200
That profile required blood.
Then they must have taken it, right?
833
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,640
It wasn't until 2003 that a DNA profile
was made of you, for your review.
834
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,240
- With a cotton swab, in your cheek.
- You're not listening.
835
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:06,360
I am listening. You say that
blood was drawn in 1999...
836
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,080
to commit fraud with in 2003.
837
01:11:10,414 --> 01:11:15,515
Do they always hold back some blood in
case someone's first conviction fails?
838
01:11:26,629 --> 01:11:30,320
How can you be sure that no
blood has been drawn?
839
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:33,640
Everything in my case is counterfeit.
Bas!
840
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,360
Everything.
841
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:37,240
Bas, everything!
842
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,720
Bas!
843
01:12:04,010 --> 01:12:06,120
- Hi.
- I do not have that much time.
844
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:08,685
It's lunch break
and my boss is strict.
845
01:12:08,893 --> 01:12:10,920
I just have a few questions.
846
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,523
You're not
recording it, are you?
847
01:12:13,299 --> 01:12:16,158
This is as off the
record as it gets.
848
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:17,440
Really?
849
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,040
Yes, okay. Shall we
just stand there for a while?
850
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,160
Yes.
851
01:12:42,731 --> 01:12:44,789
Actually, I already know a lot.
852
01:12:45,067 --> 01:12:48,285
I'm mainly looking for confirmation
of two things.
853
01:12:49,668 --> 01:12:52,720
A new will was drawn up
ten days before the murder...
854
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,964
in which Louwes becomes
executor of the widow...
855
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:02,400
and president of a foundation that
manages her millions after her death.
856
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,549
Sorry, I really can't do this.
857
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,360
I thought it would be more about
what I thought of Louwes.
858
01:13:09,565 --> 01:13:14,541
Don't worry, no one will ever
find out about this, I guarantee it.
859
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,680
My word is everything, otherwise
no one will ever talk to me again.
860
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:21,440
Everything is so specific.
It can only come from me.
861
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,640
It can come from a variety of sources.
No one knows if you work for justice...
862
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,783
or with an involved lawyer,
notary, insurer or Louwes' office.
863
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,360
- Or that you know someone there.
- When you have so much choice...
864
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:37,480
Listen.
865
01:13:38,049 --> 01:13:42,240
You agreed to this meeting because
things don't sit well with you, right?
866
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:47,320
Sorry, I shouldn't have...
I shouldn't have come.
867
01:13:51,932 --> 01:13:56,280
You don't necessarily have to talk.
There are also other ways to…
868
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,280
Maybe you know someone
who would like to talk.
869
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,880
This is the knife with which
Michael de Jong stabbed the widow.
870
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,520
With a blade of ten centimeters.
871
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,949
I'll show it here. Ten centimeters.
872
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,457
Michael de Jong killed
the widow with five stabs.
873
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,600
According to expert research...
874
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,840
I uh... found this one.
875
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,960
Get rid of it.
876
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,720
Mr. Vlug, Bas Haan.
877
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,760
Again, yes.
878
01:15:24,599 --> 01:15:28,145
No, I understand that, but you
can propose it to them, can't you?
879
01:15:28,224 --> 01:15:32,000
In a place they choose, without a
camera, in your presence.
880
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,320
I understand.
881
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,520
Yes.
882
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,400
Okay.
883
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,600
Thank you, Maurice.
884
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:01,960
Michael?
885
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:05,800
This is Bas Haan.
886
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:12,247
I know you know my name and
you don't want to talk to me.
887
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,000
And I understand that.
888
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:22,480
Michael?
889
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:30,840
Give me a chance.
890
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,800
You get to tell your whole story,
primetime.
891
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,280
Michael.
892
01:18:53,367 --> 01:18:55,515
I'll leave my card here for you.
893
01:19:22,410 --> 01:19:23,770
No sender.
894
01:19:42,230 --> 01:19:44,120
You know whose it is?
895
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,879
I can't say that.
896
01:19:46,410 --> 01:19:49,520
Only that
it left me with a proper cold.
897
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,480
Holy shit.
898
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,800
- Are we shooting?
- Just a moment.
899
01:20:10,978 --> 01:20:12,520
Professor Van Mourik.
900
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,608
As an inheritance
law specialist...
901
01:20:14,658 --> 01:20:17,640
what do you think about
Louwes' letter to the notary...
902
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,400
two months prior to the murder?
903
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:24,680
Louwes asks the notary to
put in the draft will...
904
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,960
that he becomes the sole director
of a foundation...
905
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,960
which manages all assets
after her death.
906
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,720
And that he does not have to
appoint fellow directors.
907
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,720
In short: that he is the sole ruler
of the wealth...
908
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,360
and can do with it
whatever he pleases.
909
01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:44,400
And he was already working on that
two months before the murder.
910
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,200
Apparently, yes.
911
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:50,400
But that is not how it turned out
in the final will.
912
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,680
That notary probably smelled a fuse
and thought: we're not going to do that.
913
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,353
That is why Louwes
is ultimately forced
914
01:20:59,832 --> 01:21:02,278
to appoint two
fellow directors?
915
01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:04,280
It strongly resembles that.
916
01:21:04,621 --> 01:21:09,320
But he then chose two colleagues
from his office...
917
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:12,771
whom he made excited with money
and goods from the foundation...
918
01:21:12,822 --> 01:21:14,986
at least this is what they
declared to the police.
919
01:21:15,104 --> 01:21:16,480
What do you think of that?
920
01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:20,385
The combination of facts...
921
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,840
also that he was trying to
transfer money to a private account...
922
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,280
that leads very clearly in the
direction of Louwes.
923
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:33,680
You targeted the widow's money,
but you handled it stupidly.
924
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,200
Hey, Meike.
925
01:21:48,056 --> 01:21:52,600
- You better leave that curtain closed.
- It's still there, though.
926
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,520
- I'm going to call the police.
- And then?
927
01:22:01,108 --> 01:22:03,788
You already know what they're
going to say, right?
928
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,810
Well, ma'am, what does he do?
929
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,560
Yes, if he doesn't do anything, then
uh... then we can't do anything either.
930
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,160
Because you can just stand there.
931
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,400
Yeah, no, it's uh...
932
01:22:20,030 --> 01:22:22,640
We can maybe drive by later...
933
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,320
But we are not a private police,
we have to guard the whole city.
934
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,120
Pickpockets, terrorists...
935
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,800
car thefts...
936
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,960
squatters.
937
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:57,640
Come here.
938
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:09,400
Jesus.
939
01:23:16,304 --> 01:23:18,840
Oh no.
940
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,077
No, No. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
941
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,913
Out.
942
01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:28,960
- No no no.
- I'm going to get the car.
943
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,800
Come on, come on. It's okay, it's okay.
944
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,120
Hey baby.
945
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,520
We're going to take good care of you,
poopie, aren't we?
946
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,480
It's okay, it's okay.
947
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:33,560
- Mich, let's talk to that reporter.
- Ah, Mei... Meike, that...
948
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:39,480
Mich.
949
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,080
No.
950
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,000
Um...
951
01:24:50,548 --> 01:24:54,805
We had to cut open her neck to
remove the skewers, but...
952
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,520
But it looks like she will survive.
953
01:25:04,162 --> 01:25:06,762
- Can we...
- You can see her later.
954
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:13,840
Hey girl.
955
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:25,360
And yes, the only conclusion is...
Or the strong suspicion then arises...
956
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:28,040
He wanted the money for himself.
957
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,449
Press release OM.
958
01:25:32,277 --> 01:25:34,560
- New DNA research.
- What now?
959
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,851
Y-chromosomal DNA research.
960
01:25:38,601 --> 01:25:40,200
It's a new technique.
961
01:25:40,742 --> 01:25:43,120
Performed on the nails of the widow.
962
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,320
Gerda.
963
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:47,800
It is a match with Louwes.
964
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:53,881
This technique does not produce
a unique profile.
965
01:25:53,932 --> 01:25:58,978
3 to 4% of men have the profile
found on the nails.
966
01:25:59,502 --> 01:26:01,000
But Louwes has it.
967
01:26:02,440 --> 01:26:03,440
Wow.
968
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:09,200
- There go Knoops' fingernails.
- Yes, plus Louwes' motive.
969
01:26:09,865 --> 01:26:13,920
- And he lied about drawing blood.
- It looks like it.
970
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,680
Check that nail news,
also from an expert.
971
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,960
If it's right, than it's going
to be broadcast.
972
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,280
And now they come with nails.
973
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,680
They were also investigated in 2004
and then there was nothing on it.
974
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:35,080
But Maurice, there is now a
technique that can now find something...
975
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,616
Yes, but that's the
misunderstanding.
976
01:26:37,666 --> 01:26:40,760
And that is also neat
PR trick from the OM...
977
01:27:13,764 --> 01:27:16,280
I thought of something last night.
Those nails.
978
01:27:16,514 --> 01:27:21,120
What if the handyman has the same
profile as those 3 to 4% of men?
979
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,278
If not, then the broadcast
becomes difficult.
980
01:27:23,328 --> 01:27:24,760
Everyone will start speculating.
981
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,800
That man never does.
982
01:27:27,762 --> 01:27:30,640
Even if he didn't,
there may be a match.
983
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,760
But if there is no match,
he is 100% innocent.
984
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,095
Yes.
985
01:27:35,333 --> 01:27:38,840
Just make sure you get to talk
to that handyman at all.
986
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,709
Hey.
987
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,400
That's mommy.
988
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:19,800
Hey.
989
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,200
Eggs. Aaah.
990
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,040
How was your day?
991
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,720
Yes, fantastic.
992
01:29:21,463 --> 01:29:22,503
What?
993
01:29:22,963 --> 01:29:27,480
That he wants to help me get rid of you.
They're ready for me.
994
01:29:30,190 --> 01:29:31,880
What bullshit.
995
01:29:33,263 --> 01:29:35,160
So now they know where we live.
996
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,240
There's no stamp on it,
someone just delivers this.
997
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,464
I can't do this anymore.
998
01:30:09,653 --> 01:30:11,097
I can't do this anymore.
999
01:30:11,317 --> 01:30:13,160
I can't take this anymore.
1000
01:30:13,473 --> 01:30:15,320
I can't.
1001
01:30:15,440 --> 01:30:20,520
You destroy everything.
You destroy everything. Goddamnit.
1002
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:23,720
Hey.
1003
01:30:24,086 --> 01:30:28,160
Hey, hey, hey.
1004
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,960
I'm going to talk to that journalist.
I'm going to talk to him.
1005
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,120
Yes?
1006
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,240
Yes?
1007
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:00,960
Mr. Vlug?
1008
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,280
Yes>
1009
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,440
No, of course.
1010
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,960
Tuesday is fine.
1011
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,200
Yes.
1012
01:31:21,550 --> 01:31:22,680
Yes!
1013
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,160
Yes!
1014
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:46,960
Mr Haan.
1015
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,720
Meet Michael and Meike.
1016
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:01,579
Bas.
1017
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,280
Hallo.
1018
01:32:04,430 --> 01:32:05,870
Let's sit down.
1019
01:32:19,980 --> 01:32:21,600
Go ahead, Mr Haan.
1020
01:32:21,915 --> 01:32:23,882
My clients are ready.
1021
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:32,025
First of all thank you very much
for being willing to meet me.
1022
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:38,586
I understand...
1023
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,600
I understand that you would
rather not be here.
1024
01:32:46,774 --> 01:32:50,480
But if you don't respond
to what Maurice writes...
1025
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,857
then I fear that in the
eyes of the general public...
1026
01:32:54,006 --> 01:32:56,960
the handyman is the killer.
1027
01:32:58,731 --> 01:33:04,599
I'd like to check some things from
Maurice's website one by one.
1028
01:33:05,231 --> 01:33:07,400
- Is that okay?
- Yes.
1029
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,120
Have you ever been a patient
of Dr. Wittenberg?
1030
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:22,240
No.
1031
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:27,905
No, I knew the doctor from the
antique store where I worked.
1032
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,480
Mrs Wittenberg too.
1033
01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:34,600
But I had nothing to do
with the doctor's profession.
1034
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,120
I am not a psychiatric patient.
1035
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,912
Not from him
and not from anyone else.
1036
01:33:46,877 --> 01:33:49,440
You would have hit rock bottom...
1037
01:33:50,252 --> 01:33:52,767
and lack of money because
you didn't have a job.
1038
01:33:52,845 --> 01:33:57,800
Michaël worked from 1993 to 2002
through and for a job placement company.
1039
01:33:58,884 --> 01:34:04,105
As a supervisor, manager, quality
controller and security officer...
1040
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,673
for about 36 hours a week. Here.
1041
01:34:08,196 --> 01:34:09,400
'Michaël de Jong
1042
01:34:09,798 --> 01:34:13,891
is a very reliable,
extremely knowledgeable employee.'
1043
01:34:14,329 --> 01:34:15,493
And here:
1044
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,947
'Welcome to provide
references about Mr. MC de Jong.'
1045
01:34:20,494 --> 01:34:22,760
The murder was in 1999...
1046
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:27,575
so Michael was working at that company
from long before until long after.
1047
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,680
So no unemployment and no decline.
1048
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:39,596
And I'm not a handyman at all. I did
odd jobs at her house sometimes, but...
1049
01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:41,360
nothing more.
1050
01:34:43,069 --> 01:34:44,640
The bookkeeper
is not a bookkeeper.
1051
01:34:45,569 --> 01:34:47,600
and the handyman
is not a handyman.
1052
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,800
And drugs?
1053
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,480
Yes, that's quite a nice one.
I can't even do drugs.
1054
01:34:54,643 --> 01:34:57,040
I have an allergy, uh...
1055
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,534
- Quincke's edema.
- Doctor's statement.
1056
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:04,721
I can drop dead if I do drugs.
1057
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:09,760
Luckily I don't have an alcohol
allergy. I can drink beer in peace.
1058
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,240
And I've been drunk sometimes.
1059
01:35:14,024 --> 01:35:16,377
I've never ran somebody over as well.
1060
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:18,840
- Well... No, sorry.
- Do not.
1061
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,280
No, sorry, sorry.
1062
01:35:24,283 --> 01:35:26,200
What about that alibi?
1063
01:35:26,548 --> 01:35:29,840
It doesn't matter what we
say about it, right?
1064
01:35:30,344 --> 01:35:34,280
Yes, we said different things.
You can't change that
1065
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:40,320
When we say we are mistaken,
De Hond calls us pathological liars.
1066
01:35:40,493 --> 01:35:44,480
Then everyone runs after it. But if
Louwes and his wife are mistaken...
1067
01:35:44,531 --> 01:35:45,541
That's true.
1068
01:35:45,592 --> 01:35:49,520
Louwes and his wife also contradicted
each other on this same point.
1069
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:50,680
I know.
1070
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:55,948
...Louwes and mister De Hond. But when
we say something, we are the liars
1071
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:02,320
But then there is the point of
knowing the perpetrator.
1072
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:06,520
Yes but...
1073
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,000
I don't want to say anything about that.
1074
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,937
At that time the police
questioned Michael about it
1075
01:36:14,609 --> 01:36:16,680
and decided not to prosecute him.
1076
01:36:18,101 --> 01:36:21,440
It doesn't make my story
any more credible, but...
1077
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,480
But a DNA test will.
1078
01:36:23,835 --> 01:36:26,102
I presume you know
about the nail dirt?
1079
01:36:26,152 --> 01:36:28,720
Mr. Haan, my
client is not crazy.
1080
01:36:28,987 --> 01:36:34,360
I understand the risk,
but it could end all discussion.
1081
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:39,040
Oh, just when I was beginning to believe
that your opportunism had limits.
1082
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,640
It's definitely not that, but...
1083
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,158
Look, if you do it
and you don't like the results
1084
01:36:45,208 --> 01:36:49,120
you can keep
sweep it under the rug.
1085
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:50,560
Says the journalist.
1086
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,240
You don't have to tell me anything.
1087
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,624
Such a test can probably
be done anonymously.
1088
01:36:55,674 --> 01:36:59,560
Independently
and with a notary...
1089
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:00,880
No, we'll do it.
1090
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,773
- Michael.
- No, and I want Mr. Haan to film that.
1091
01:37:06,773 --> 01:37:09,640
So everyone can see,
huh, that there's...
1092
01:37:10,992 --> 01:37:13,040
- that it is clear.
- Michael.
1093
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,360
One in 25 men has that profile.
1094
01:37:15,570 --> 01:37:17,854
And then I got it, so what?
1095
01:37:18,242 --> 01:37:22,240
Then everyone will think I did it.
What's the difference with now?
1096
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,480
We're already dead anyway.
1097
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,480
Don't make it too late...
1098
01:37:48,127 --> 01:37:50,630
The final report of Brouwer's
exploratory investigation
1099
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:51,960
has been leaked.
1100
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,205
Of course.
1101
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,040
And? Any news?
1102
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,212
No.
1103
01:38:00,462 --> 01:38:03,320
Then the motive and knowledge
of the perpetrator remain.
1104
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,080
What did Michael himself say about it?
1105
01:38:10,629 --> 01:38:12,789
He doesn't want to
say anything about that.
1106
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,367
I didn't ask about the motive.
1107
01:38:14,418 --> 01:38:18,003
- That wouldn't prove anything.
- What was it again?
1108
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,960
Mrs Wittenberg would have
cut his bequest in half...
1109
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,680
and he allegedly killed her
in a drunken brawl.
1110
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,556
Well, that remains a point
for Maurice then.
1111
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,480
If we assume that.
1112
01:39:02,812 --> 01:39:07,460
If Maurice and the judiciary have
determined that halving of the bequest..
1113
01:39:08,236 --> 01:39:10,413
then you have to explain me how.
1114
01:39:11,677 --> 01:39:12,917
This is the old one.
1115
01:39:15,385 --> 01:39:18,440
'To Mr. MC de Jong, free of duties
and costs...
1116
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:22,560
an amount in cash of 25,000 guilders.'
1117
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,200
This is the new one.
1118
01:39:24,986 --> 01:39:27,655
'To Mr. MC de Jong,
free of duties and costs...
1119
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,720
an amount in cash
of 25,000 guilders.'
1120
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:31,840
- No.
- Yes.
1121
01:39:33,828 --> 01:39:37,628
- And no one has ever checked this?
- No one. Yes, me now.
1122
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:48,874
One more to go.
1123
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:50,593
Yes.
1124
01:39:51,171 --> 01:39:54,554
But he doesn't want
to say anything about that. Anyway.
1125
01:39:55,530 --> 01:39:59,475
If the DNA test shows it isn't him,
then it isn't him.
1126
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,440
Maybe he doesn't dare.
1127
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:10,760
It's kind of like Russian roulette,
right?
1128
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,000
Do you already have that one?
1129
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,680
- With the door?
- Yes.
1130
01:40:26,758 --> 01:40:29,320
No, that's not going to work.
It's too dark.
1131
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:31,960
Shit.
1132
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:37,412
Sorry, we weren't ready yet.
Would you like to step out again?
1133
01:40:52,959 --> 01:40:54,799
- How is it going?
- Yes...
1134
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,360
What are you doing, man?
1135
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,240
Yeah, uh, I had to report myself.
1136
01:41:00,532 --> 01:41:01,612
For what?
1137
01:41:10,371 --> 01:41:13,080
Mr De Jong, come on in.
1138
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,200
Hello.
1139
01:41:18,012 --> 01:41:19,080
Michael de Jong.
1140
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,400
- Frans.
- Hi.
1141
01:41:30,558 --> 01:41:35,600
Several people stated that you had said
at Mrs Wittenberg's funeral...
1142
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:39,600
that her body was found in the living
room and the time of the finding.
1143
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:41,400
That's right?
1144
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:44,455
Yes, everyone had questions.
1145
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,040
And you had answers?
1146
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,680
So unreal.
Last Wednesday I was still with her.
1147
01:41:55,572 --> 01:41:57,052
That's bizarre.
1148
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,440
No one says or knows anything.
1149
01:42:08,373 --> 01:42:12,490
But how? That information was only
known to the police.
1150
01:42:13,357 --> 01:42:15,160
Oh that uh...
1151
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:16,920
I did not know that.
1152
01:42:17,209 --> 01:42:19,320
Do you know what that means?
1153
01:42:20,618 --> 01:42:23,640
This means that you have
perpetrator knowledge.
1154
01:42:30,587 --> 01:42:32,640
Do you understand what I just said?
1155
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,719
Yes, but it sounds so absurd.
Perpetrator knowledge.
1156
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:40,720
How did you know she was laying there?
1157
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,520
- I had heard that.
- From whom?
1158
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:49,320
From someone.
1159
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,000
Someone?
1160
01:42:53,210 --> 01:42:55,186
Come on, it's coming out anyway.
1161
01:42:57,811 --> 01:43:00,522
It must have been
a real massacre.
1162
01:43:00,774 --> 01:43:03,360
I overheard a
detective talking about it.
1163
01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:05,760
Five stabs to her chest.
1164
01:43:18,150 --> 01:43:20,158
So you protect the perpetrator?
1165
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,600
I don't want
to get anyone in trouble.
1166
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:26,840
If you continue like this,
you will be in trouble.
1167
01:43:28,289 --> 01:43:32,200
She didn't show up for a
hairdressing appointment on Saturday.
1168
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,108
Her regular hairdresser
called the police.
1169
01:43:35,273 --> 01:43:37,200
The card said Thursday.
1170
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,920
Then she was murdered.
They didn't find her until Saturday.
1171
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,360
In the living room.
1172
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:45,280
Well, hey.
1173
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:04,920
Sst. Yes.
1174
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,448
Well, has it been recorded?
1175
01:44:13,839 --> 01:44:15,640
Otherwise we'll do it again.
1176
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,760
Then we are just as happy.
1177
01:44:23,423 --> 01:44:26,640
It's golden, Bas.
How many minutes do you need?
1178
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,640
The exclusion of Michael on the
basis of the DNA test...
1179
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,320
the new DNA evidence against Louwes,
his possible motive...
1180
01:44:34,440 --> 01:44:38,360
the interview with Professor Van Mourik
about this, the De Hond method...
1181
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:40,760
The whole broadcast.
1182
01:44:41,291 --> 01:44:42,560
Well, you're in luck.
1183
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,040
Rein needs more time for that
special on campaign finance,
1184
01:44:46,617 --> 01:44:47,832
so Wednesday.
1185
01:44:47,883 --> 01:44:49,520
- In two days?
- Yes.
1186
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,200
I can't make it. There are
hours of material.
1187
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,080
No, I understand.
1188
01:44:54,332 --> 01:44:58,200
Let's see. Well, then... yes, then
Tuesday. Next week. Can you manage that?
1189
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,200
Yes.
1190
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,319
It is absolutely
impossible that the...
1191
01:45:08,369 --> 01:45:12,280
handyman left the
DNA on the nails.
1192
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:17,840
Eh, title of Eikelenboom. Then I would
do the microscope shot now.
1193
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,080
Oh no, wait. uh...
1194
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,454
Just put the quote from Vlug here,
that's better.
1195
01:45:30,095 --> 01:45:32,640
This is rock solid technical proof...
1196
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:37,322
that Michael de Jong cannot be linked to
the murder in any way.
1197
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:47,880
Yes.
1198
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,560
Mireille, do you have those recordings
of Van Koppen?
1199
01:45:54,364 --> 01:45:57,040
- What is this?
- Maurice's weblog.
1200
01:45:57,755 --> 01:46:02,680
"Murder weapon in Deventer murder case
may be under the widow's tombstone."
1201
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:07,400
"A metal object has been found that
strongly resembles a knife."
1202
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,600
"I call on the judiciary to
open the grave."
1203
01:46:10,902 --> 01:46:14,800
- How does he get this?
- From the manager of the cemetery.
1204
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,160
And he comes with this after
seven years?
1205
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,160
He says the police didn't write
everything down at the time.
1206
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:21,840
Bas, it's Vlug.
1207
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,360
- Hello?
- Have you seen Maurice's website yet?
1208
01:46:27,740 --> 01:46:31,440
- Yes, I just saw it.
- When do you think you can broadcast?
1209
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,760
- Next Tuesday.
- Only then?
1210
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:36,888
Yes.
1211
01:46:37,263 --> 01:46:39,080
Then De Hond
can shoot for a week.
1212
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:40,355
Yes.
1213
01:46:40,405 --> 01:46:43,080
This evening, Plasman is sitting
at 'Pauw & Witteman'.
1214
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,128
How do I explain this
to Michael and Meike?
1215
01:46:46,380 --> 01:46:49,080
Yes, I know, but
it can't be sooner.
1216
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:53,240
Why didn't the cemetery manager
raise alarm sooner?
1217
01:46:53,590 --> 01:46:58,680
Eh, he did, he says. He was then
questioned by the police at the time.
1218
01:46:59,064 --> 01:47:05,049
Eh, there is also a mutation to
be found in the journal of the research.
1219
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:11,760
Only he says: What I said then does not
correspond to what it says now.
1220
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,926
He had given very
specific information.
1221
01:47:14,059 --> 01:47:15,080
What then?
1222
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:19,840
That he spoke to the widow
on the morning of the murder.
1223
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,228
And that she said, I'm going
to tell the handyman today...
1224
01:47:23,278 --> 01:47:25,160
that he is going out of my will.
1225
01:47:25,381 --> 01:47:27,840
She couldn't do that at all, asshole.
1226
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,880
Maurice de Hond has put
together a German team.
1227
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:40,879
They specialize in detecting
metal objects underground.
1228
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:43,600
With Bas.
1229
01:47:44,545 --> 01:47:45,360
Yes.
1230
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,235
Yes I know.
1231
01:47:48,620 --> 01:47:50,055
I've seen it.
1232
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:52,975
I'm going as fast as I can.
1233
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,978
If everyone didn't disturb me all day...
Yes.
1234
01:47:57,440 --> 01:47:59,160
Okay. Yes.
1235
01:48:01,033 --> 01:48:03,885
I cannot tell you what kind of
metal, but there is something.
1236
01:48:04,252 --> 01:48:05,800
What now?
1237
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:07,521
Oh sorry, it's you.
1238
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,960
- The broadcast is moved to Monday.
- What?
1239
01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:14,157
A week later. Yes, sorry,
extra party leader debate...
1240
01:48:14,207 --> 01:48:15,680
and Wilders will also come.
1241
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:17,788
Damn it Gerda,
you can't do that.
1242
01:48:17,838 --> 01:48:20,080
Do you know
how many times Vlug called?
1243
01:48:20,218 --> 01:48:23,800
Then you say that if we
don't broadcast that debate, RTL will.
1244
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,834
At the same time. And then no one
will watch your report.
1245
01:48:29,010 --> 01:48:30,210
Sorry, Bas.
1246
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,714
I thought you could use a shot.
1247
01:48:38,247 --> 01:48:39,287
Thank you.
1248
01:48:49,431 --> 01:48:52,120
Is the grave now guarded?
1249
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,080
- Of course.
- By who?
1250
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,520
- By people.
- Yes, but is that police?
1251
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,800
So not police,
it could be police now.
1252
01:49:01,940 --> 01:49:04,600
Where does he pay it all from?
1253
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:05,773
What do you mean?
1254
01:49:06,457 --> 01:49:08,840
How much do you think
such a Plasman costs?
1255
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:13,880
- He's just there for the publicity.
- Even still.
1256
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:19,880
Private detectives, a team of German
tomb investigators, 24/7 surveillance..
1257
01:49:24,900 --> 01:49:29,040
- I don't think that Gerda...
- Ah, Gerda. Just a few phone calls.
1258
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,920
- Follow the money.
- Yes, indeed.
1259
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:47,040
It's 10 past 1. Good afternoon
and welcome to Stand.nl.
1260
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:52,800
Our position: Maurice de Hond must
stop insinuating. Call 0800-1101.
1261
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:56,800
- Good afternoon, this is Truus.
- Hello, Truus.
1262
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:03,200
- I absolutely disagree. That
gentleman is absolutely innocent.
1263
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:07,693
As he reacted on
TV to the statement...
1264
01:50:07,743 --> 01:50:11,800
Well, go on. Maurice de Hond, go on.
1265
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,960
Thank you. Good afternoon.
1266
01:50:14,509 --> 01:50:20,400
Michael de J., that handyman,
is obviously not right in his head.
1267
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,960
And the Deventer police force is
blackmailable as I'm concerned.
1268
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,040
That handyman is completely stuck.
What do you think of that?
1269
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,908
Let's stay away
from that lawsuit.
1270
01:50:31,958 --> 01:50:35,200
He's accusing an unconvicted.
1271
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,400
Lady Justice has long since lost her
blindfold a long time ago.
1272
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,720
He knows what he is doing.
1273
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:47,160
6 a clock. The NOS Radio 1 Journal with
Karin van den Boogaert.
1274
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,280
Because of growing social unrest,
the judge has decided...
1275
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,760
to open the grave of the
widow Wittenberg.
1276
01:50:56,520 --> 01:51:00,720
Unbelievable, what a circus!
1277
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,960
At 3:00 PM the grave has been lifted.
1278
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,720
The stone is from the tomb and
is being examined for traces.
1279
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:12,400
And much more importantly:
the knife can finally be searched for.
1280
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:17,240
Each layer of sand is sieved.
Not an inch is looked over.
1281
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:23,164
You always leave behind DNA...
1282
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:29,440
It was just announced that no knife
was found in the grave.
1283
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,995
The grave was opened
after Maurice de Hond...
1284
01:51:32,045 --> 01:51:34,480
suggested the murder
weapon might lay in the grave.
1285
01:51:41,303 --> 01:51:43,520
I'm so glad we're airing on Monday.
1286
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:16,280
- I made some more phone calls.
- What?
1287
01:52:16,586 --> 01:52:19,080
Don't you remember:
who pays for all this?
1288
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,160
Holy fuck.
1289
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,840
- Who is De Lange?
- What is De Lange is a better question.
1290
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,040
OK, what?
1291
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:45,000
He's rich. It's an entrepreneur
with parking garages, call centers...
1292
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,884
And what does he have
to do with Maurice De Hond?
1293
01:52:47,934 --> 01:52:49,531
It's in this contract.
1294
01:52:51,279 --> 01:52:55,600
'...that the collaboration aside
from the Deventer murder case...
1295
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:59,720
will consist of the establishment of a
socio-political organization...
1296
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:03,440
with the provisional name Wij 21.'
1297
01:53:05,736 --> 01:53:09,240
So Deventer as the starting shot
of a political movement?
1298
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:14,040
It says 'Maurice de Hond will take on
the role of eye-catcher.'
1299
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,040
Handy, then he can poll himself.
1300
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,040
This is really sick.
1301
01:53:19,900 --> 01:53:23,320
And then point three:
De Lange also wants his money back.
1302
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:27,360
Maurice must then conduct a damage
procedure against the OM or the state.
1303
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:32,640
In other words: Maurice has to litigate
all the way. No choice.
1304
01:53:32,936 --> 01:53:34,480
This should be on the air.
1305
01:53:35,011 --> 01:53:36,560
Do we have this exclusive?
1306
01:53:36,829 --> 01:53:39,520
Joep Dohmen beat me.
It is in the NRC this afternoon.
1307
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,917
- Will you manage before tonight?
- No, impossible.
1308
01:53:44,220 --> 01:53:45,520
Okay, then Thursday.
1309
01:53:45,837 --> 01:53:47,480
That broadcast is almost done.
1310
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,206
Then I'll ask Ellen to start
and we turn it around
1311
01:53:53,316 --> 01:53:57,543
No, sorry, no more delay.
I can't do that, not again.
1312
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,960
Yes that's OK. Yes.
1313
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:16,360
Get out, Haan.
1314
01:54:16,480 --> 01:54:18,840
- Good luck, huh.
- Come on, let's start.
1315
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:24,840
Live in five, four, three...
1316
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:31,880
Exculpatory DNA evidence in the
Deventer murder case. This is Network.
1317
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:35,400
Oh, Meike, it's starting.
1318
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,160
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
Good evening.
1319
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,680
New facts in the controversial
Deventer murder case.
1320
01:54:56,908 --> 01:55:02,000
A case that has grown into a battle
with supporters and opponents.
1321
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:07,160
One is convinced that Ernest Louwes
has been rightly convicted.
1322
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:12,338
The other thinks the murdered widow's
handyman must have done it.
1323
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,280
What is the truth in this murder case?
1324
01:55:15,605 --> 01:55:20,320
Reporter Bas Haan investigated the case
and uncovered new facts...
1325
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:25,600
about exculpatory DNA evidence
and a possible motive.
1326
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:29,120
Seven years ago, the widow was murdered.
1327
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:32,800
The Deventer murder case is now one
of the most sensational...
1328
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,760
criminal cases, thanks to the
actions of Maurice de Hond.
1329
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,720
Last week the widow's grave
was opened...
1330
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:42,520
in search of the handyman's
murder weapon.
1331
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:47,720
In vain. The handyman's lawyer is now
demanding a gag order against De Hond.
1332
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:53,087
Just try defend yourself against
De Hond and such press offensive.
1333
01:55:53,138 --> 01:55:54,320
That's almost impossible.
1334
01:55:54,422 --> 01:55:55,927
I've done everything...
1335
01:55:56,006 --> 01:56:00,878
to update the Dutch
people via my website.
1336
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,919
De Hond is convinced that the
DNA evidence is worthless.
1337
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:09,520
But this story is not about
conspiracy theories, but about facts.
1338
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:15,120
The DNA in this case is crucial.
And now comes another revelation.
1339
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:19,200
Additional DNA testing
relieves the handyman.
1340
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:25,200
It is absolutely impossible that the
handyman left the DNA on the nails.
1341
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,320
This is rock solid technical proof...
1342
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:33,182
that Michael de Jong cannot be
linked to the murder in any way.
1343
01:57:07,735 --> 01:57:09,440
Well.
1344
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:11,017
Yes.
1345
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:12,708
Basje.
1346
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,120
Gerda.
1347
01:57:15,506 --> 01:57:17,400
- Well done.
- Thank you.
1348
01:57:17,748 --> 01:57:20,120
- Hey, hoppakee.
- Nice man.
1349
01:57:20,454 --> 01:57:22,480
- Top.
- Thanks to you, huh.
1350
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,640
- Let's go have a drink somewhere.
- Good plan.
1351
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,240
Well done.
1352
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:34,320
Come on.
1353
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:42,520
Good? -Ja.
1354
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:43,640
All right.
1355
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,280
Sorry, are you perhaps Bas Haan?
1356
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:02,560
Certainly.
1357
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,080
Do you have
Richard Eikelenboom's number?
1358
01:58:07,842 --> 01:58:09,360
What do you need that for?
1359
01:58:10,122 --> 01:58:14,160
'Reporter' is going to make an hour and
a half special about the Deventer case.
1360
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:16,040
Is there any news then?
1361
01:58:16,244 --> 01:58:22,080
An American DNA expert declares that
the evidence against Louwes is nothing.
1362
01:58:25,216 --> 01:58:28,250
So what does the expert say
about the combination...
1363
01:58:28,300 --> 01:58:31,080
of saliva, touch marks,
blood and nail dirt?
1364
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:33,120
Which nail dirt?
1365
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:35,113
Have you seen my report?
1366
01:58:35,654 --> 01:58:38,080
Or are you going to
say: Which report?
1367
01:58:42,361 --> 01:58:44,040
Do you still have
that number for me?
1368
01:58:44,679 --> 01:58:46,094
What do you think?
1369
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,240
Better look at my report first, fool!
1370
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:59,640
Thank God it's Friday.
1371
01:58:59,908 --> 01:59:02,914
Tonight, Yolanthe Cabau van Kasbergen..
1372
01:59:02,964 --> 01:59:05,861
Arthur Japin, Javier Guzman...
1373
01:59:06,119 --> 01:59:09,603
Bastiaan Geleijnse,
Don Diego Powder...
1374
01:59:09,653 --> 01:59:12,119
Pieter Jan Hagens,
Maurice de Hond...
1375
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,640
and Claudia de Breij.
1376
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,752
They didn't take anything away
from my broadcast.
1377
01:59:19,837 --> 01:59:21,799
They didn't even see it.
1378
01:59:24,448 --> 01:59:27,000
Like it never fucking aired.
1379
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,471
- Here is Maurice the Hond.
- What the fuck.
1380
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:06,960
Maurice, yesterday sentenced to
two months conditional
1381
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:12,480
Does his mean you can never say
again: the handyman did it?
1382
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:18,560
If I don't comply with the ruling,
I will be jailed for two months.
1383
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:22,840
Are you never going to say again:
Michael de Jong did it?
1384
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,640
I am prepared to do a lot for
this program...
1385
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,485
but not prison for two months.
1386
02:00:29,535 --> 02:00:32,463
No, but I was
wondering because you...
1387
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:38,280
I admire your fanaticism in this case.
And your sense of justice.
1388
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:42,880
If you can't say it, can you sing it?
1389
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:46,240
- I think only Jan Smit.
- Only Jan Smit.
1390
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:50,360
Because I was thinking about…
1391
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:51,480
about...
1392
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:56,920
thinking about 'the Deventer
murder case: the musical'.
1393
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:14,288
Fucking circus.
1394
02:02:15,446 --> 02:02:19,840
If more than 200,000 people have
watched that crap, I'll write a book.
1395
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:21,360
- A book?
- A book.
1396
02:02:21,980 --> 02:02:25,760
No broadcast schedule, budget,
so few minutes to cram it all into.
1397
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:29,800
Just a book. With all the facts about
the case. All the facts.
1398
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:31,740
Do you think people
are waiting for that?
1399
02:02:31,790 --> 02:02:34,440
Yes, people want to know
what's really going on.
1400
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:36,237
I firmly believe that.
1401
02:02:36,819 --> 02:02:41,360
But it is made them incredibly difficult
by people who throw sand in their eyes.
1402
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:45,880
I want to be able to say: Do you want
the facts? There they are, in that book.
1403
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:51,160
Researched, checked and checked again.
And if you want to ignore them...
1404
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,995
they are still there.
Those facts exist...
1405
02:02:54,045 --> 02:02:56,360
are real, and are not going away.
1406
02:02:57,540 --> 02:02:58,569
What?
1407
02:02:58,620 --> 02:03:01,960
Do you know how many books are
published per year?
1408
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:05,440
I'll make sure people know it's there.
1409
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:07,473
If necessary, I will
enter the circus myself.
1410
02:03:08,035 --> 02:03:09,400
The circus?
1411
02:03:09,486 --> 02:03:11,698
January 2009
1412
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:48,160
It is one of the most talked
about lawsuits of all time.
1413
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:51,200
Who killed the wealthy widow
Wittenberg in 1999?
1414
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:56,040
Ernest Louwes was convicted, acquitted
and then through DNA testing...
1415
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,960
sentenced to 12 years.
29 judges were involved in the case.
1416
02:04:00,079 --> 02:04:02,524
But in the press, a campaign
led by Maurice de Hond
1417
02:04:02,574 --> 02:04:04,199
questioned
the course of justice.
1418
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,400
The grave has even been opened.
1419
02:04:06,457 --> 02:04:09,691
Journalist Bas Haan wrote 'De Deventer
murder case: the conspiracy unraveled'
1420
02:04:09,793 --> 02:04:10,817
Welcome
1421
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:13,240
You have been on this case
for a long time.
1422
02:04:13,302 --> 02:04:17,184
Tonight I will ask you the question you
surely get asked all the time:
1423
02:04:17,917 --> 02:04:21,080
Who did it?
The handyman, or Ernest Louwes?
1424
02:04:24,357 --> 02:04:27,243
Maurice de Hond
was sentenced for libel,
1425
02:04:27,293 --> 02:04:30,639
and ordered to pay
35.000 Euro in compensation
1426
02:04:30,689 --> 02:04:33,962
to Michael de Jong
and his girlfriend Meike.
1427
02:04:34,048 --> 02:04:39,271
A, for Dutch standards,
exceptionally high figure.
1428
02:04:39,321 --> 02:04:45,196
He never retracted any of
his accusations against Michael de Jong.
1429
02:04:45,782 --> 02:04:48,383
Michael de Jong could
never find a job again.
1430
02:04:48,433 --> 02:04:50,496
Michael has an autoimmune disease.
1431
02:04:50,547 --> 02:04:54,731
Medical research has shown that
the chance of getting this disease
1432
02:04:54,781 --> 02:04:57,434
is greatly increased
by chronical stress.
1433
02:04:57,547 --> 02:05:03,120
The financial compensation of 35.000
Euro was entirely spend on legal costs.
1434
02:05:03,785 --> 02:05:08,213
Ernest Louwes served his sentence and
is currently an employed citizen again.
1435
02:05:08,263 --> 02:05:12,342
He still fights for his acquittal
through his lawyer Knoops.
1436
02:05:12,397 --> 02:05:19,626
In 2014 the Supreme court started researching
a possible re-opening of the case.
1437
02:05:19,889 --> 02:05:22,013
In consultation with Knoops,
1438
02:05:22,063 --> 02:05:26,708
an English DNA expert
has been appointed for a third opinion".
1439
02:05:26,758 --> 02:05:28,553
In 2019, the expert also confirmed
1440
02:05:28,603 --> 02:05:32,112
the most important conclusions
of the NFI about the DNA evidence,
1441
02:05:32,162 --> 02:05:34,289
the basis for
the conviction of Louwes.
1442
02:05:34,844 --> 02:05:40,063
Bas Haan is currently
a research journalist for Nieuwsuur.
1443
02:05:40,118 --> 02:05:43,143
His reporting
has received numerous awards
1444
02:05:43,193 --> 02:05:48,978
Among them "De Tegel" three times, the
most important Dutch journalistic prize.
1445
02:05:49,028 --> 02:05:52,738
In 2015 he was chosen
as journalist of the year.
1446
02:05:53,238 --> 02:05:57,463
Nothing has been heard anymore
from the political movement "Wij 21",
1447
02:05:57,513 --> 02:06:00,113
which was founded by
de Hond en de Lange.
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