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Never in my wildest dreams
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did I think when I told Gary
something bad is gonna happen,
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did I think it was gonna be this.
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I can't imagine
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what Gary must have been going through
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and how he must have felt
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being so alone and so far out there.
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He said
that the longer he stood
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and looked at it,
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the more spooked that he
got the feeling of dread,
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the sixth sense that he
needed to get out of there.
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- I first knew something was wrong
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when I was on the phone with my publisher,
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and Simon kept trying to call in.
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And so once I was off the
phone with my publisher,
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I called Simon who's Gary's roommate.
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And he told me that
Gary was two days late.
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That's not Gary,
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you know, Gary,
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would never leave Tuca that long,
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especially knowing that
Simon had to go out of town.
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That's when I knew that
there was something wrong,
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and I needed to get there.
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So I packed up and left Panaca
and headed straight to Ruth.
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I needed to see what was going on
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and make sure that my brother was okay.
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And to take care of Tuca
until he could get back.
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I really thought he would be back.
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- I first met Gary when
they were having an event
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at the Nevada Northern Railway.
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And we both just kind of,
wandered in each other's paths,
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and started talking about trains,
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and, we were both looking
for a place to stay.
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I was trying to find a place for work,
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he was in between places,
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and we kind of just
happened upon this place.
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- The first time I heard
the name, Gary Hinge,
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I believe was when I was working
for the radio station NNN,
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It was um..
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I was an investigative reporter,
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it was my first job right out of the gate,
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and my producer came
to me and he was like,
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we have to cover this,
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I think it's a good
idea for us to do this,
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because the TV stations,
the news,
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had stopped recording on it.
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And so this was a way
for us to get exclusives
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and to keep the story going.
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Because according to everyone
else that was hearing about it
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and reporting about it,
it had just gone cold.
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- If you want me to
describe my brother Gary,
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the best way to describe him is,
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if there was a little lady that said,
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can you please watch my purse,
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no matter where they were at,
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Gary would sit there and
he would watch her purse
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and make sure that it was
safe until she came back.
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That was just the type
of person that he was,
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he was trustworthy and amazing.
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Amazing.
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- So Gary loved the outdoors,
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I mean,
he was the king of outdoors.
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Let's just say that.
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And I think a lot of people
were really envious of him.
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Like he lived this
beautiful adventurous life,
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that I think, those who
have the nine to five job,
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stuck behind a desk,
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I think,
really admired that about him.
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- Super smart,
but definitely private,
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he kind of just kept to himself.
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If he wasn't in his room on his computer,
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then he was working on his model railroad.
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But other than that,
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yeah, just really kept
to himself in his room
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making his videos.
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Super funny, though
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definitely could make you laugh
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with a couple of his one liners.
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- I started to learn
more about who Gary was.
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And I found out
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that he was an extremely
highly intelligent man.
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He's one of those people that was so smart
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that kind of had a hard time
connecting with other people.
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So he mostly just kind
of was more, solitude,
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and yeah, fascinating.
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The more I found out about him,
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the more I wanted to keep
finding out about, who is Gary?
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Gary had found his dream job,
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being such an avid outdoors man,
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he started to work for a startup
company called Map Nevada.
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Now what they do is,
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they map out really remote
locations for hunters.
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So they track wildlife, weather, terrain,
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and I mean,
Gary was in heaven doing this.
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- He loved to be by himself
out in the wilderness,
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he loved hiking,
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and being adventurous,
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any train, he was drawn
to, he loved trains.
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Hey guys filming another
little YouTube video,
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at one of my favorite places.
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If I had more time I would
become one of the volunteers,
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but this is the Nevada Northern
Railway Museum, here in Ely.
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And it's kind of an old little copper mine
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just preserved and left.
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They do some cool stuff, though,
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like you can sleep in this
old caboose from Kennecott,
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the big copper mine in the area,
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right outside my home in Ruth.
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It's kind of a neat
little railroad museum,
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they just kind of let you walk around.
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And you know how much I love
trains on top of hiking,
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gotta do something in the winter time
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and you can't be outside as much.
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- So I was really excited
to take on this story,
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seeing that it was my first story.
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And it also took place
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in this tiny little town called Ruth.
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And so I grabbed the phone book,
and I just started calling.
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And I wanted to talk to
anybody and everybody
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that would talk to me.
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- I first knew something was off
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when he asked me to watch his dog Tuca
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before he went out on one of his trips.
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And he never leaves Tuca.
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He always takes the dog with him,
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so I thought that was kind of weird.
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And he was acting super stressed out
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even keeping to himself even more.
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When he didn't come back after two days,
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I thought that was really strange.
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I had a flight to catch,
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so I just called Beverly to get the dog.
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- After I got off the phone with Simon,
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I tried Gary,
and there was no answer,
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so I hurried and left and
I went to Ruth from Panaca.
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And it's only a couple hours away,
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so when I got there,
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Simon and Tuca were
waiting on the front steps.
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Simon really needed to get
to the airport in Las Vegas,
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so I asked him where Gary had gone to,
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and Simon didn't know, his
roommate didn't even know,
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he just knew that he was on an expedition.
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To me that wasn't right,
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so I tried Gary a couple of more times,
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and all it did was go to voicemail
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and something was definitely wrong.
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And so I called the police and waited.
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- So I got Beverley's phone number,
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and this is the only time
that I ever talked to her.
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And she was pretty angry with me,
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once I told her that I was a reporter.
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And she did not want to
have anything to do with me
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or our show, which I thought
was really unfortunate,
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because, the news stations,
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they had stopped recording on this,
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and we were the only ones doing anything,
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and I thought this is a way
to help find your brother,
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I don't understand why
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you don't want to give me the time or day,
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but she didn't,
and she quickly hung up.
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And that was the only time
that I spoke to Beverly.
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- Gary became so obsessed
with survivalism,
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he would watch the Discovery Channel,
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he would watch YouTube,
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he would study it and find
the most remote places,
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no cell service,
no provisions of any kind
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other than what he took.
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And it used to scare
the heavens out of me.
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I mean,
I was petrified for him,
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and I would worry so much.
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But after a while,
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it was Gary.
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So guys,
I'm here hiking around,
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and this is one of the cool secrets
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I have in the wilds in Nevada
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is this cemetery from the
late 1800s old mining camp,
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but I won't disclose the
name for safety reasons.
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Don't want anyone getting lost out here,
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but you can see all these
old graves, wood stones,
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unmarked graves with no names now.
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Give you an idea of
where I had to hike from
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is that mountain way over there
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is my truck's on the other side of it.
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So hiked over that mountain
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and I'm way out this
way now, hiking around.
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- I wouldn't say what
Gary was doing was hiking.
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These were multiple day,
like survival excursions.
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- In the beginning,
what gave me hope
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was the fact that when
Gary was much younger,
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much, much younger,
like second grade,
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we all went camping, and Gary
disappeared from the campsite.
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And we searched for him
and searched for him,
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and we were all so worried, mom
and dad were just terrified,
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I was terrified.
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We didn't wanna leave the mountain
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to go and get cell service or anything,
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we just went looking for him.
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And we looked for him all night.
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And the next morning we came
up to a sheep herders camp,
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thinking, we're gonna tell them look,
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keep an eye out for this second grader,
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this second grader that was missing
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and we walk up and there
is my little brother Gary,
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playing with the animals.
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He'd known that if he got
to the sheep herders camp,
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he would be okay,
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that mom and dad would
come and look for him.
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And he was so resilient, it
was in him, second nature.
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- So after speaking to a
bunch of people in Ruth,
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I started to learn a little
bit more about Beverly
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and Beverly's relationship
with Gary in the past.
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So she had a lot of anger towards Gary.
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She really blamed him
for their parents' death.
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And then when their parents did pass away,
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she was stuck,
still raising Gary
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and so she held quite a lot
of resentment against him.
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- Well, I was mad at
Gary when mom dad died,
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they were out on a fishing trip
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and mom and dad liked to
do some night fishing.
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And so they went out
and did hang the lantern
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where they could see it,
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so they could get back to shore safely,
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back to camp without hitting any rocks.
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Old Gary decided
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that he was gonna go
hunting frogs and everything
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and so,
and he went exploring.
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And while he's out there
he hung the lantern up,
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so that he could see what he was doing.
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Meanwhile, mom and dad
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decided that they were gonna come back in
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and call it a night.
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So they headed for the lantern.
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Not knowing that Gary had
moved it while he was exploring
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and so they followed the light.
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And, it was the wrong spot.
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They didn't make it back
because they hit the rocks,
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and had Gary not hang the
lantern up where he was at
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and left it where it needed to be,
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there wouldn't have been any problems.
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- I just felt super bad for Beverly.
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You know,
I could just hear her
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inside Gary's room, sobbing.
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- You know, you're really
making me miss my brother, Gary.
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Kept hearing people
refer to Gary as a hiker.
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And in my opinion, I don't
really think that's correct.
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Because, to me, Gary's
more of a survivalist,
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he would go out into the
wilderness for a week or two on end
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with just a backpack.
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He's kind of like the
MacGyver of the wilderness,
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just to survive and live off of the land,
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and filter his on water.
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So, to hear them just be like,
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oh, he's just a hiker gone missing.
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He's not.
256
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- When Gary and I first
started living together,
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I actually went out with
him on one of these things.
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And I just kept telling myself
the entire time, never again.
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Gary wouldn't let us bring
enough food or water,
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and it was the most miserable experience.
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The one thing I did like about it
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was we kept on finding these 1800's
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abandoned mining kind of structures,
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which was super cool.
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- This wasn't a normal search and rescue.
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Because, Gary didn't tell
anybody where he was going
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on his excursion.
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And he would go really
deep into the wilderness,
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and he'd be gone for a week or so,
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so no one had any idea
where to even start looking.
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And so police decided the best way,
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or the only thing they could think of
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was to maybe check his cell phone,
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and his cell phone pings in which tower.
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And it looked to be as he
had turned his cell phone off
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shortly after leaving his home.
277
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- When Beverly showed up to get the dog.
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Yeah, I regret that now, I
kind of lashed out at her.
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- I was so put off when I got to town,
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and he was so antsy to get out of there.
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And, being my brother's roommate,
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not even asking where he was gonna be,
283
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or, if there was gonna,
284
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you know any issue that
might set up a red flag
285
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if he didn't come home.
286
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He had his dog and everything,
287
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and he knew he needed to be out of town.
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I just didn't,
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I didn't feel right about it,
290
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it just didn't feel right.
291
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And, a week or so before
that, Gary had confided in me
292
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that him and Simon weren't
getting along very well,
293
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and so he wanted to move out.
294
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And so I just,
295
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it just didn't feel right,
so I let the cops know.
296
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You know,
I just don't trust him,
297
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there's just something to
not be concerned at all,
298
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where your roommate's gonna be.
299
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And more worried about getting on a plane,
300
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than somebody missing that's
supposed to be your friend,
301
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close to you?
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No.
303
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- We never talked about that,
304
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he never told me where
he went hiking, ever,
305
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he never mentioned it.
306
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And even if we did talk about it,
307
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I'm pretty sure he probably
wouldn't have told me, so.
308
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But at the beginning,
I understood
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she needed someone to point the finger at
310
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and she was super upset, understandably.
311
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But after some time, it
just kind of got old,
312
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so I called her and I now told her that,
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there's no way I would have
known and just by the way,
314
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you're his sister,
so why didn't you know?
315
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,460
- When I first reported Gary missing,
316
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the police were wonderful,
317
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they were really on top
of it, they did an APB,
318
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be on the lookout for his truck, himself,
319
00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:08,140
Park Rangers,
Fish and Game, everything.
320
00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:09,560
You know,
we live in a small town,
321
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people don't go missing all the time.
322
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And so this was a big deal,
323
00:20:14,020 --> 00:20:17,360
and they really took it seriously,
324
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they had it everywhere.
325
00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:23,070
I was embarrassed that I didn't know
326
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exactly where he was at,
you know, I'm his sister,
327
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,410
I should have known.
328
00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:34,500
I should have known.
329
00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:02,780
My first thought when
I heard he was missing was,
330
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:08,990
oh, it'd be near impossible to find him.
331
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:15,460
Either, he finally just injured himself,
332
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or maybe he had eaten something
333
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,510
that he didn't know was
gonna make him so sick.
334
00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:29,220
- It'd been two days since
I'd reported the missing
335
00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:33,440
and I hadn't slept more than
10 to 15 minutes at a time.
336
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:38,610
I had people calling and were so concerned
337
00:21:38,610 --> 00:21:41,110
and wanted to know where
to start looking for him.
338
00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:44,240
But not knowing where he was at,
339
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,240
where would I have them look?
340
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,370
And then the phone call came,
they'd found Gary's truck.
341
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,950
And I got such a sinking feeling,
342
00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:28,280
such a sick to my stomach feeling
343
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,660
that this was now very real.
344
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:41,960
After the cops called in,
345
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,170
and let me know that
they'd found this truck,
346
00:22:44,170 --> 00:22:47,130
they came and picked me
up and took me to it.
347
00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:50,550
It was about 55 miles out of town,
348
00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:53,930
and we got there and seeing his truck,
349
00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:58,310
I was so hopeful,
you know, thinking,
350
00:22:59,770 --> 00:23:01,980
he probably fell,
351
00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:04,480
maybe broke an ankle,
stuck in a ravine,
352
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,740
can't get himself out.
353
00:23:05,740 --> 00:23:08,740
But I had hope.
354
00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:13,240
I really had hope that we
were gonna find him okay.
355
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,580
- It just wasn't in a place
where Gary would have left it.
356
00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:19,580
Like it wasn't in a spot where he wanted,
357
00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:21,750
which he would wanna go to explore.
358
00:23:24,130 --> 00:23:25,760
- While I was sitting there,
359
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,970
watching them process Gary's
truck, I was looking around,
360
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:34,810
this wasn't Gary,
361
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,730
he loved to explore vast
forests, rocky hills,
362
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:48,110
beauty, not just a rolling hill of dirt.
363
00:23:49,030 --> 00:23:53,700
It just,
something wasn't right.
364
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840
- I'm a private investigator.
365
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,600
I was hired by Beverly shortly
after Gary's truck was found.
366
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,440
The High Desert as you can see,
367
00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:26,570
it's very beautiful,
368
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:31,570
it's very majestic, has mountains,
valleys, plains, forests,
369
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,070
it has it all.
370
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:37,580
But it's also quite dangerous
and very unforgiving.
371
00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:40,160
- So after Gary's truck was found,
372
00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:45,340
a search began and people really rallied.
373
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,760
Gary went missing
374
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,260
in the hottest part of the summer.
375
00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,970
And what we see most of the
time in disappearance like his
376
00:24:55,970 --> 00:25:00,810
is people suffering from heatstroke,
377
00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:04,350
dehydration, sometimes even injury.
378
00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:08,320
People started showing up
379
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,190
and then more people started showing up,
380
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:14,280
and next thing I know,
it's a whole whirlwind,
381
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,910
there were people there
that I didn't know,
382
00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:22,040
that Gary didn't know,
383
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,960
there were people bringing drones,
384
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,710
all kinds of search and rescue.
385
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:30,050
It was the most humbling experience
386
00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:35,050
to know that these strangers
were out there helping
387
00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:39,220
to try to find my brother
and bring him home.
388
00:25:52,030 --> 00:25:55,860
- So once Gary's truck
was found, Beverly was,
389
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080
let's just say she was very vocal
390
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,580
about how the truck seemed to be parked
391
00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:04,290
in a suspicious location,
392
00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:05,620
like she was just convinced
393
00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:08,210
that her brother had not parked it there,
394
00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:10,000
her brother wouldn't park it there,
395
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,800
and she would not stop talking about it.
396
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,970
So the cops eventually looked into this.
397
00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:19,680
- The clock was ticking.
398
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,970
They very much needed to find
Gary as soon as possible.
399
00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:27,900
Beverly, on the other hand,
was very much in their way.
400
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:32,900
She was in the way, and she
was really messing things up.
401
00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:36,110
- Searching the high desert isn't easy,
402
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:37,450
I mean,
it's not an easy task.
403
00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:38,360
People think it is,
404
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,950
people think you can just get
up in the air in a helicopter
405
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:45,960
and fly around and look at
the ground and see someone,
406
00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:51,170
but once you're on the ground,
there's abandoned mines,
407
00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:53,670
there's bushes and tree cover.
408
00:26:53,670 --> 00:26:56,260
And it's super difficult.
409
00:26:56,260 --> 00:27:00,140
So finding someone, it's not
easy as people think it is.
410
00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:03,260
Oh my god, sheep.
411
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,640
Hi sheep.
412
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,730
Look at all the sheep.
413
00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:09,400
Sheep are a lot nicer than people.
414
00:27:13,150 --> 00:27:14,110
Hey little sheep,
415
00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:16,740
look at all you guys.
416
00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:23,950
Roaming the land, doing
what you need to do.
417
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:30,710
Jeez, they all ran away from me.
418
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:32,500
Can't even make friends with sheep.
419
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,220
- The officers didn't want me
to participate in the search.
420
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:46,930
They thought it was best that
I stay home at Gary's place
421
00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:51,940
in case he tried to contact
me, call or show up.
422
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:56,190
- I was very much familiar
with the lead investigator.
423
00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:57,990
We had worked together before,
424
00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:00,410
and we were definitely
familiar with each other.
425
00:28:01,660 --> 00:28:04,160
I called him to kind of check up on things
426
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,040
and see where the
investigation was headed,
427
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,790
and if they had any new information.
428
00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:13,750
He told me that they had made
a discovery in the truck.
429
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:27,350
But since I was not
formally hired by Beverley,
430
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:30,060
I had to contact her first
431
00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:32,560
before they would discuss
the matter with me.
432
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:38,400
- I was hopeful that they had good news,
433
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,370
that the officer asked me
if Gary had any enemies,
434
00:28:45,910 --> 00:28:50,040
or if I knew anybody
that may wanna hurt him.
435
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:54,670
I asked the officer why,
436
00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:57,170
why would he,
437
00:28:58,050 --> 00:28:59,260
why would he ask that.
438
00:28:59,260 --> 00:29:04,260
And in confidence, they told
me that they had evidence
439
00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:12,730
that Gary did not drive
his truck out there.
440
00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:28,700
- So I waited a couple of hours
441
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,750
and went over to Gary's house
where Beverly was staying,
442
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,620
and she was absolutely hysterical.
443
00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,420
She told me that the
police had informed her
444
00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:42,010
that in Gary's truck they
had discovered prints
445
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,890
on top of Gary's all over,
on top of the steering wheel,
446
00:29:48,010 --> 00:29:50,720
the dashboard, the gear
447
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,730
and what was most surprising or alarming
448
00:29:56,020 --> 00:30:01,030
was that they discovered
footprints, bare footprints,
449
00:30:01,690 --> 00:30:06,700
and they were scarred and unidentifiable,
450
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:10,540
which even added more to the mystery.
451
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:19,790
- The footprint was,
452
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:26,510
he said that it was barefoot.
453
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:40,110
- So someone drove Gary's truck barefoot.
454
00:30:41,650 --> 00:30:44,150
And it just doesn't sit well with me,
455
00:30:44,150 --> 00:30:46,570
because it's like,
what happened?
456
00:30:46,570 --> 00:30:49,160
Why was this person not wearing shoes?
457
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:51,950
What was going on?
458
00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:54,080
Like, it's just odd,
459
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,410
and it's very,
460
00:30:56,410 --> 00:30:59,210
I don't know, it's just,
461
00:31:00,250 --> 00:31:01,960
it made my skin crawl.
462
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,300
Oh, look at the little baby deer.
463
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:09,180
That's kind of cool to see,
you don't see that too often.
464
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,380
- You know, I hadn't been
sleeping and everything,
465
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:49,180
and my mind was just reeling,
466
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,350
I had a lot of things
going through my head,
467
00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:53,760
different scenarios.
468
00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:57,140
Maybe he picked up a friend?
469
00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:02,190
Maybe somebody stole his
truck while he was out hiking?
470
00:32:03,150 --> 00:32:06,650
Or maybe he picked up a hitchhiker,
471
00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:11,660
and the hitchhiker had
done something to him.
472
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,500
I don't know, at this point,
473
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,080
so many things were just
going through my head,
474
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,210
just over and over again,
475
00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:28,800
which didn't help me try to get any sleep.
476
00:32:39,850 --> 00:32:43,440
- So Beverly, still
wanted me to vet out Simon
477
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320
because she still thought
he was very suspicious.
478
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,530
And I did too.
479
00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:49,570
I looked into him again,
480
00:32:49,570 --> 00:32:54,160
and lo and behold, he was
ruled out as a suspect.
481
00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:57,240
But through that process,
482
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,080
I actually learned that
Gary had been talking
483
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920
to someone that he met on
a Facebook Messenger group.
484
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:07,420
They had been corresponding
with each other
485
00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:09,960
through a local sellers group,
486
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,340
and I guess they had been
commenting on each other's posts
487
00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:14,510
and one thing led to another
488
00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:18,220
and they became more than friends.
489
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:24,270
When I confronted this person,
he was very much terrified,
490
00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:25,730
didn't wanna talk to me,
491
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:27,110
didn't wanna have anything to do with me
492
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:28,110
or the investigation.
493
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:29,860
And I told him,
if you don't talk to me,
494
00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:31,490
you're gonna have to talk to the cops,
495
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:33,490
and they're gonna really bust your ass.
496
00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:35,320
And I think he was terrified
497
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,030
of being outed in this community,
498
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,960
because it's such a small
town, not a lot of gay people.
499
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:46,880
And so he did talk to me,
he told me that,
500
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000
he didn't have anything to
do with Gary's disappearance.
501
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,550
He was sad and upset that
Gary had disappeared,
502
00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:57,090
he didn't know what happened to him.
503
00:33:57,090 --> 00:33:58,550
I guess I did believe him.
504
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,600
He really didn't wanna discuss it,
505
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,390
but ultimately, when I
did check out his alibi,
506
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:07,230
he was cleared as a suspect.
507
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,650
- Hey guys, now that I'm
done chasing sheep around
508
00:34:15,650 --> 00:34:17,740
like a crazy person in the mountains.
509
00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:21,240
I've seen a lot out here,
mining camps,
510
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:26,250
mines, abandoned towns,
buildings, remnants of the past,
511
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:29,250
but the coolest and my
favorite personally,
512
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:31,750
is all the Native American remnants,
513
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,420
I love finding arrowheads
514
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,760
and seeing petroglyphs on mountain sides.
515
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,550
Just old writing from the native people
516
00:34:39,550 --> 00:34:43,140
who lived here long before
any settlers moved in.
517
00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:45,270
To me,
that's the coolest stuff to see.
518
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:47,520
But it's getting dark
now, the sun's setting
519
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,440
I think I'm gonna call it
a night and get settled in,
520
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,400
in my camp.
521
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,650
- They were still processing
the crime scene and everything
522
00:34:56,650 --> 00:35:01,660
and they came across an
envelope in his center console,
523
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,790
it had a money in it.
524
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,960
To me that said that whoever he was with,
525
00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:15,170
wasn't there to take his money
526
00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:17,800
or anything that he might have had.
527
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:39,860
I woke to the police
officers knocking on my door.
528
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:47,000
And they were informing me that
they called off the search.
529
00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:50,710
And while they're explaining things to me,
530
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,420
I'm seeing them talking,
531
00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:58,170
I'm not comprehending any of the it,
532
00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:03,300
everything was just kind of flashing.
533
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:07,890
And, I'm seeing their faces,
and I'm seeing their lips move,
534
00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:10,770
and then they're looking
at me like I'm crazy.
535
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,650
And next thing I know,
I'm on a stretcher.
536
00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:28,000
And taken to the ER where
they had to give me hydration
537
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:34,250
and IV with fluids and
medicine that helped me sleep,
538
00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:40,800
and for the first time
since all of this started,
539
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:43,800
I got 10 hours of sleep.
540
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,470
- This was the largest search and rescue
541
00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:49,600
that Nevada had ever seen.
542
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,600
And when they finally called it off,
543
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,980
everyone was just so shocked.
544
00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:59,860
But, you mean, you can't search
the entire state of Nevada,
545
00:36:59,860 --> 00:37:02,200
it's just too vast,
it's too broad,
546
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,160
and it had been so long that
the chances of finding him
547
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,290
and finding him alive were slim to none.
548
00:37:11,290 --> 00:37:13,580
- The investigation was dead in the water,
549
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:15,580
we didn't have any leads,
550
00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:18,590
the fingerprints in the truck
didn't match any database,
551
00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:20,840
so we didn't know what to do.
552
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,670
But then.
553
00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:30,680
Gary's followers started calling.
554
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:38,320
And this whole thing
was turned on its head.
555
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:42,070
- So I'm at my desk,
556
00:37:42,070 --> 00:37:44,150
and I'm going through the show notes,
557
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:45,490
I'm getting ready to go on air
558
00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:47,620
and my producer comes through
my door, and he's like,
559
00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:50,950
you have a phone call, you
have to take this phone call.
560
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:54,790
And I get on the phone, and
it's one of our listeners.
561
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:59,340
And he's telling me that I
have to look into Gary's blog.
562
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:03,800
He's going on and on about
this crazy story about Gary,
563
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,050
and he's telling me that he
thinks he knows where he is,
564
00:38:08,050 --> 00:38:11,270
he thinks he knows what happened to him.
565
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:15,730
And that I have to go and
look at this blog right now.
566
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,360
- My friend Monica calls me
567
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,530
and tells me that it's all over the news
568
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:26,530
that all these people are
calling into the radio station.
569
00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:31,120
And she tells me that they're
talking about Gary's blog
570
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,000
and the fact that it needs to be read
571
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,960
and that there's comments and everything.
572
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,170
And so once I got discharged,
573
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:41,670
I went straight to Gary's house,
574
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:45,170
so I could read the blog
and see what all this was
575
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:47,180
that they were talking about.
576
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,720
- Unfortunately, Beverly
found out about Gary's blog
577
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,270
hours before we did, and
she went right over there,
578
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:55,430
and really messed things up.
579
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:57,980
- Hey guys, it's me again.
580
00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:59,810
A lot of people have
been following the blog
581
00:38:59,810 --> 00:39:01,690
and new to the blog and been saying,
582
00:39:01,690 --> 00:39:04,780
I'm just trying to copy
"Naked and Afraid".
583
00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:08,360
And as you can tell, I'm not
naked or afraid out here,
584
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,530
so I'm not trying to copy the show and,
585
00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:14,870
also my ex loved that
show, so I'm sick of it,
586
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:17,660
there's a reason why
people are called exes.
587
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:20,380
- So while I'm trying to
navigate through everything
588
00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:22,420
on his blog,
589
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:24,800
going through the operator
stuff and everything
590
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:31,180
and I finally get in there
and I realize he has 50,000,
591
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,390
50,000 viewers.
592
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:39,060
I was shocked.
593
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:42,650
- Not a single person in Gary's
life knew about his blog,
594
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:44,070
which was really shocking
595
00:39:44,070 --> 00:39:47,030
considering the fact that
he had 50,000 followers.
596
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:51,450
That really says something,
if you think about it.
597
00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:59,330
- Of course, I immediately
jump on my computer
598
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:03,840
and I go to his blog, and
I'll never forget the title,
599
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,670
because I actually thought
it was really clever.
600
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:09,300
It was called "Don't
Hike With Headphones".
601
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:11,340
- Hey guys up here at
the top of the mountain,
602
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:15,390
as you can see, there's
the great view behind me.
603
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,980
One of the questions I've got
asked on the blog a lot was,
604
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:21,940
what dangers,
605
00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:24,020
are there any threatening animals
606
00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:25,860
like rattlesnakes and mountain lions?
607
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:29,650
And, yeah, there're rattlesnakes
at the lower elevations,
608
00:40:29,650 --> 00:40:31,910
you might have noticed I
don't hike with headphones
609
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:34,450
or anything on so I can listen for them.
610
00:40:34,450 --> 00:40:37,870
- And it's your basic,
survivalist type blog,
611
00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:41,250
you know, how to build a
fire, how to filter water,
612
00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:43,130
and I just start scrolling through
613
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:45,090
and I scroll and scroll
all the way to the,
614
00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:47,880
like the latest videos that he had posted.
615
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,420
- I'm trying to navigate
616
00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:52,630
to find out where these
notifications are coming from
617
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:56,100
because he is getting
notification after notification,
618
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,560
I mean,
it's ding, ding, ding, ding.
619
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,850
- So I was driving when I
found out Gary had a blog,
620
00:41:02,850 --> 00:41:06,820
I pulled over and looked
for it on my phone.
621
00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:09,030
And the first thing that I noticed
622
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:10,820
was that he didn't go by his real name,
623
00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:13,280
he went by Scorpion Sam.
624
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,530
- My biggest thing I've ever ran into
625
00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:18,120
was I got stung by a scorpion,
626
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,620
kicking over a rock once,
627
00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:25,210
had to go to the hospital
once I got back to my truck,
628
00:41:25,210 --> 00:41:27,790
that was the day I hiked
with a swelling up hand.
629
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:32,170
- I'm finally able to
get to the notifications
630
00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:34,430
and this notification pops up
631
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:37,890
and they're saying,
I bet he found it,
632
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:42,640
and that something bad happened,
633
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,650
and I'm thinking, they're
saying he found it?
634
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,030
And something bad happened?
635
00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:51,400
Found what?
636
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,860
- And then came Gary's
now infamous video post.
637
00:41:57,070 --> 00:42:00,330
I have worked a lot of
strange cases in my career,
638
00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:05,040
and Gary's by far was the most unusual,
639
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,880
just the way that he described
what he was looking at,
640
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,010
what he saw,
how terrified he was,
641
00:42:13,010 --> 00:42:18,010
it just really scares me.
642
00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:24,690
- So I started watching
the second to last video
643
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:25,940
on Gary's blog.
644
00:42:25,940 --> 00:42:28,690
And he's at his home
and he's sitting there
645
00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:31,110
and he's telling his viewers
646
00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:37,320
basically what he came across
on his last expedition.
647
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,990
- I saw his last three videos
648
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:40,870
and,
649
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:44,830
what I saw,
650
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,590
changed everything.
651
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,390
- He's pretty worked up in this video,
652
00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:06,560
you can tell he's nervous,
he's scared.
653
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,730
- As soon as his video started,
654
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:15,900
I could tell he was troubled by something,
655
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,490
something had him so unnerved.
656
00:43:19,870 --> 00:43:22,870
He was three days into his expedition,
657
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:27,290
and he started to smell smoke and that,
658
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:29,370
and he was out in the middle of nowhere.
659
00:43:29,370 --> 00:43:34,300
So he got curious and
started to look around.
660
00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:37,010
- He comes across this cabin,
661
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:40,970
and it's not like a nice cabin,
it's like a makeshift cabin,
662
00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:45,970
almost kind of like a
homeless type of structure,
663
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:47,520
sticks and twigs,
664
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,900
and there's smoke coming
out of the chimney.
665
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:56,780
And Gary's not someone to
be scared of someone else,
666
00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:57,780
out in the wilderness,
667
00:43:57,780 --> 00:44:02,780
but he said he was just
like frozen in his tracks,
668
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,000
and he just felt this like sixth sense
669
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120
of basically impending doom.
670
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,840
- It was the look on his
face, that really got to me,
671
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,130
when he described this
cabin out in Nevada.
672
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,350
- He said that the longer
he stood and looked at it
673
00:44:27,390 --> 00:44:31,650
the more spooked that he
got the feeling of dread,
674
00:44:31,650 --> 00:44:34,980
the sixth sense that he
needed to get out of there.
675
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:38,860
- And he wanted nothing
to do with that place.
676
00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:42,360
And so,
he hightails it out of there
677
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,540
and he goes to sleep in his tent,
678
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:51,120
I remember this because he talks
about how he was so scared,
679
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040
he slept with his shoes on all night.
680
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,590
You know,
he didn't bring his firearms,
681
00:44:55,590 --> 00:45:00,590
so he was totally just vulnerable
out there and terrified.
682
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,810
And he wakes up the next
morning, and there's footprints,
683
00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:11,270
and they're barefoot footprints.
684
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:13,480
- These two things are now connected,
685
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,770
we had something to go on.
686
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:26,910
The hike back to his track,
687
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:28,790
which took three days,
688
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:32,210
he felt like somebody was following him.
689
00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:39,000
- So this was a really sad story to me,
690
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,170
to see Gary's followers turn on him,
691
00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:44,930
that blog was everything to him.
692
00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:49,930
He really admired them,
and their comments,
693
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,850
it was something really special to him.
694
00:45:54,850 --> 00:45:59,860
And to see them go from
loving him to bullying him,
695
00:46:00,530 --> 00:46:03,650
calling him a loser, a liar,
696
00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:07,570
and putting him down, it
was really sad to see.
697
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:12,250
- And the comments are like,
698
00:46:12,250 --> 00:46:15,920
everyone's kind of just
like, well, go back,
699
00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:18,420
take video,
show us this place,
700
00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:21,210
does this place even
exist, is this even real?
701
00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:23,840
And he's getting like
really hit by his followers,
702
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,800
basically, they're kind of bullying him,
703
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,350
they don't believe that
he came across this,
704
00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:33,850
they go to his blog for a reason,
705
00:46:33,850 --> 00:46:35,690
and now they feel like he's just
706
00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:38,610
getting into ghost stories or something.
707
00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:39,440
And so they,
708
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,280
I really feel like he fell
into a bit of cyber bullying
709
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,160
and the fact that they were not gonna be
710
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,870
his faithful followers anymore,
711
00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:56,500
unless he goes back and
proves that he saw this,
712
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:58,420
he experienced this.
713
00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:07,630
- You know, it broke my
heart to read the comments
714
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:12,640
that said that he was
nothing but a lonely loser,
715
00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:16,430
and that all he was doing
716
00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:20,730
was trying to get
attention by making shit up
717
00:47:20,730 --> 00:47:23,820
and that they didn't believe him.
718
00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,780
- I actually didn't know about the blog,
719
00:47:28,610 --> 00:47:31,370
but I knew he was doing something
720
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:36,250
because he was always in
the backyard making videos,
721
00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:38,460
telling the camera how to make a campfire,
722
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,630
or I always heard him in his room
723
00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:43,710
like giving survival tips and things.
724
00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:47,260
Hey, guys, just
walking through the woods here.
725
00:47:48,130 --> 00:47:50,760
It's a beautiful day in
the backwoods in Nevada.
726
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,680
But a lot of people asked what I would do
727
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,100
if I got lost back here,
728
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:59,520
I had to spends several
more days than I planned on,
729
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,850
I guess first thing I would do
730
00:48:00,850 --> 00:48:04,690
would be find a nice nutritious cow patty,
731
00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:07,780
because there're so yummy.
732
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:11,070
I'm just kidding, you
don't wanna eat cow shit.
733
00:48:11,070 --> 00:48:11,990
That will be bad.
734
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:15,910
But there are ways you can
scavenger for food out here.
735
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:26,210
- I'm so upset by everything and,
736
00:48:27,130 --> 00:48:31,800
I wanted to download this
737
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,510
and do what I could so that
I could take it to the cops,
738
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:40,520
and during all the frustration
and the upset and everything,
739
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:45,020
I accidentally deleted it.
740
00:48:47,650 --> 00:48:51,030
- Beverly really beat herself
up about deleting the video,
741
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:53,990
and I felt bad for her.
742
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:57,700
I didn't wanna press it because
I knew she felt terrible,
743
00:48:57,700 --> 00:48:59,950
her brother was missing.
744
00:48:59,950 --> 00:49:04,170
But it was a missed
opportunity definitely,
745
00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:05,840
and a definite disappointment.
746
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,800
- The last video of Gary on that blog,
747
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:16,600
is him basically telling his followers,
748
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,930
okay, here I go,
I'll go back.
749
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:22,600
And he doesn't look okay about it.
750
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,980
- Gary's final video is truly haunting.
751
00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:32,450
And it is really the
beginning of a bigger mystery.
752
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,740
- Gary's last video that
he posted to his blog
753
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:43,750
said that he was gonna go back out
754
00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:50,960
and record everything
and prove to everyone
755
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,180
that this was real, that
this really existed.
756
00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:04,980
It's the last time that
he ever posted anything
757
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:06,600
or anybody heard from him.
758
00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:31,590
- Hey guys, I'm back.
759
00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:32,630
Wanted to make a video
760
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:36,010
about the different comments
people left on my last video.
761
00:50:38,050 --> 00:50:40,970
A lot of you were coming up
with some crazy theories,
762
00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:44,310
what was out there,
what I saw in the woods.
763
00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:47,480
Some of you don't believe it,
764
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,360
some of you are asking for the location
765
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,070
and wanna find it yourself.
766
00:50:52,070 --> 00:50:53,780
I'm really against people going out
767
00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:57,030
in the backwoods in
Nevada without experience,
768
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:58,740
there's a lot dangers out there,
769
00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:02,200
from old mines to just random people
770
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,450
and you can get lost easily,
771
00:51:04,450 --> 00:51:06,750
the scenery looks a lot the same,
772
00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:08,790
and if there's no trails,
773
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:12,300
you can get lost and turn around
and be out there for days.
774
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,460
And if you don't bring
enough food or water,
775
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:15,550
you're in real danger.
776
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:19,140
So I don't wanna give out the location
777
00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:23,100
and just be the one that
causes a whole bunch of people
778
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,060
to go out in the backwoods in Nevada.
779
00:51:26,140 --> 00:51:29,190
I'll go out there,
find the shelter again.
780
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:32,150
This time, I'll bring
my camera and firearm,
781
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:33,860
I have to do some work first,
782
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:36,570
but I plan on leaving on the 22nd,
783
00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:39,410
and I'll need a good six
days to be out there again.
784
00:51:40,450 --> 00:51:43,280
It's a good three days
in, and three days back,
785
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,700
but we're gonna find out what this is,
786
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:49,580
and look forward to another video,
787
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:51,250
once we finally get out there,
788
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:54,300
I'll have something for you guys posted.
789
00:52:01,340 --> 00:52:03,260
- He goes and that's it.
790
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:04,560
And that's the last,
791
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,060
that's the last video of Gary.
792
00:52:08,060 --> 00:52:11,560
And no one knows where he was going.
793
00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:17,190
So the search is so
vast and Nevada is huge,
794
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:20,450
and he could be anywhere.
795
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,300
This place that he talks
about could be anywhere.
796
00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:43,300
- This became a perfect storm
797
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:46,890
because now we knew what Gary was doing,
798
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:48,640
we just had no idea where.
799
00:52:49,890 --> 00:52:54,900
- I had no idea that he
had this whole other life,
800
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:57,980
this blog, all these
followers and everything
801
00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:59,190
had I known that,
802
00:53:00,070 --> 00:53:04,620
I would have never, ever,
let him go back out there.
803
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:09,040
- This whole case turned
from a missing persons
804
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:12,920
to a huge mystery.
805
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,420
Whose cabin was this?
806
00:53:14,420 --> 00:53:16,250
I mean, who lives out there?
807
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:17,420
Where is this cabin?
808
00:53:17,420 --> 00:53:19,920
I mean,
if it's in the middle of nowhere,
809
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,340
what type of person lives
in the middle of nowhere?
810
00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:27,260
And if you're about to
go find that person,
811
00:53:27,260 --> 00:53:29,720
I don't know if they're gonna
be too happy to be found.
812
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,190
I mean,
if they're out there that far,
813
00:53:32,190 --> 00:53:34,190
they're out there that far for a reason.
814
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,860
- Once the radio station
broadcasts about it,
815
00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:45,700
his blog and everything,
816
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:47,950
everybody just went crazy
817
00:53:47,950 --> 00:53:50,290
before the cops could even take it down.
818
00:53:50,290 --> 00:53:55,290
The conspiracy theories
were just everywhere,
819
00:53:55,500 --> 00:54:00,510
from witches to aliens,
area 51, you name it.
820
00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:04,470
- People started coming
out of the woodwork
821
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:06,470
and everyone had a theory
822
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:11,470
as to who the cabin belonged
to, what was in the cabin.
823
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,980
There were some comments about
Gary had discovered a witch,
824
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:19,690
and she was making secret potions
825
00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:22,070
and somehow he had gotten involved,
826
00:54:22,070 --> 00:54:26,240
and I mean it was crazy.
827
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,070
Other people thought it was just a hermit,
828
00:54:28,070 --> 00:54:30,580
you know someone who just
wanted to be left alone.
829
00:54:32,290 --> 00:54:34,710
People thought that maybe
it was a government,
830
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:39,130
secret government operation, aliens.
831
00:54:41,590 --> 00:54:42,760
I mean it's,
832
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,970
I could go on and on
833
00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:47,550
about the many theories
that people thought.
834
00:54:47,550 --> 00:54:49,970
- The only reasonable
explanation I could come up with
835
00:54:49,970 --> 00:54:53,020
was maybe,
Gary had stumbled upon
836
00:54:53,020 --> 00:54:56,100
an illegal marijuana growing operation
837
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,310
out there in the middle
of nowhere in Nevada
838
00:54:59,270 --> 00:55:03,070
and they killed him for
it, it has happened before.
839
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,150
But,
840
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:08,820
I was wrong.
841
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:17,870
- I just couldn't shake
this sickening feeling.
842
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:30,260
Before I knew it,
the cops showed up
843
00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:32,640
and they had known all about his blog
844
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,100
and I was actually on the
computer when they got there.
845
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:40,650
And they gathered everything
up, seized everything,
846
00:55:40,650 --> 00:55:43,070
including his hard drives.
847
00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:44,690
Guys,
848
00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:46,150
another model train video here,
849
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:48,780
I just got back from a flea market,
850
00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:51,120
and look what I picked up today.
851
00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:57,500
Got a nice little HO diesel locomotive,
852
00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:59,580
lettered for one of my favorite railroads,
853
00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:01,670
it's called the California Western,
854
00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:04,750
out of Northern California.
855
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,970
Set that down.
856
00:56:09,970 --> 00:56:14,970
Then got this brand new steam
engine for the Santa Fe.
857
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,690
- My private investigator
called and said that,
858
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:32,700
the detectives on the case
wanted to meet with me.
859
00:56:32,740 --> 00:56:36,620
So I ended up going down
to the precinct and,
860
00:56:39,580 --> 00:56:42,630
they kept asking me, is
there anything you need?
861
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:44,210
Have you eaten today?
862
00:56:45,340 --> 00:56:47,760
Just beating around the bush
863
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,760
and I finally asked
them, what is going on?
864
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,430
It's back on.
865
00:56:58,270 --> 00:57:00,100
- We are back with a break in the case
866
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:02,270
of missing hiker,
Gary Hinge.
867
00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:04,270
Was made yesterday when his backpack
868
00:57:04,270 --> 00:57:08,400
was discovered by a couple
camping in White Pine County.
869
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,860
When they woke up in the morning,
870
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:10,990
they found the backpack
871
00:57:10,990 --> 00:57:14,120
had been intentionally
placed in their campsite.
872
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,660
What they found inside
873
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:19,200
has sent a shockwave
through the state of Nevada.
874
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,250
Hinge's truck was found parked
in Eureka earlier this month.
875
00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:25,460
But police now say they have evidence
876
00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:26,840
that it was parked there,
877
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,840
to throw off investigators
searching for him.
878
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,220
- They woke up to find Gary's backpack
879
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:40,180
draped on a shovel that they had there.
880
00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:44,350
And when they opened it,
881
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:49,190
Gary's belongings were in there,
882
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:58,870
as well as a severed hand,
883
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:02,120
Gary's hand.
884
00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:25,270
The way that his hand was severed
885
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:28,190
was incredibly violent.
886
00:58:28,190 --> 00:58:32,400
The way that it was chopped
off, was just gruesome.
887
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,200
- It was deliberately placed there,
888
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,570
because someone wanted it to be found.
889
00:58:38,570 --> 00:58:40,080
- The forensic showed,
890
00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:45,000
that his hand had been severed,
891
00:58:46,830 --> 00:58:49,670
for more than five weeks.
892
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:52,920
- And it was still
clutching a video camera.
893
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,590
And what's even more crazy was,
894
00:58:58,340 --> 00:59:01,560
the hand wasn't like torn off from a body,
895
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,980
it was a clean cut.
896
00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:05,270
- I was gutted,
897
00:59:07,810 --> 00:59:10,730
by the fact that he had suffered.
898
00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:13,730
- Once the camera was discovered,
899
00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:17,320
everybody wanted to know,
is there a tape?
900
00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:20,280
And does the tape work?
901
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,870
And what's on the tape?
902
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:27,670
- We were very anxious for the crime lab
903
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:29,170
to process the evidence.
904
00:59:30,130 --> 00:59:33,800
And sure enough,
when they did,
905
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,090
the memory chip was still in the camera.
906
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:56,070
It was truly terrifying to watch
907
00:59:56,070 --> 01:00:01,070
and I can't even imagine the true horror
908
01:00:01,490 --> 01:00:03,160
that he faced out there.
909
01:00:04,330 --> 01:00:08,750
- Bill calls me and the
forensic investigators
910
01:00:08,750 --> 01:00:13,710
have video of Gary's final moments
911
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,800
and so they take us into a room.
912
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:20,720
- The team thought it would be best
913
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,100
if I sat down with Beverly and
watched the videos with her,
914
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:28,850
because I had a relationship with her
915
01:00:28,850 --> 01:00:31,600
and I had a kind of a special rapport.
916
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,190
So they thought it would probably be best
917
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:34,940
if maybe I sat down with her first.
918
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:38,860
- Bill started the first video
919
01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:45,490
and there was Gary shining his
light around, saying hello.
920
01:00:47,830 --> 01:00:52,000
And the innocence in his voice,
921
01:00:54,750 --> 01:00:56,550
I just,
922
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:59,800
I couldn't do it.
923
01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:02,010
I
924
01:01:03,550 --> 01:01:04,760
I had to stop.
925
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:11,480
And then Bill finished watching.
926
01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:29,910
The clips begin
like all the other clips,
927
01:01:31,210 --> 01:01:32,750
Gary's even smiling,
928
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,880
but he has no idea what's about to happen.
929
01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:41,760
- Hey guys,
a little video update.
930
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,130
I am.
931
01:01:43,970 --> 01:01:44,970
Oh, there's thunder.
932
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,600
Storm's coming in, I
gotta make this quick.
933
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,270
Got a whole nother ridge line to climb
934
01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:53,640
before I get to the spot
where I saw that shelter
935
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,110
but I'm about halfway
there, a day and a half in.
936
01:01:59,530 --> 01:02:00,860
We'll see what we find.
937
01:02:02,110 --> 01:02:05,570
Climbed over one mountain range
already, got one more to go.
938
01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:08,120
And, better make it quick,
939
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,370
because that storm's coming in fast.
940
01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:13,120
We'll see what's on the other side.
941
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,960
I got ways to go,
942
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,130
but, weird thing is,
943
01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:19,550
I'm already distinctly smelling the smoke,
944
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:21,380
like I smelled last time.
945
01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:24,380
There's no fires around, there
shouldn't be anyone out here,
946
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:28,260
but it's very faint but very
distinct smell of smoke.
947
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,680
Kind of getting creeped out
948
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,640
but not as much as I was last time yet.
949
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,390
We'll see what happens.
950
01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:37,400
Look for another video update soon.
951
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,200
All right,
here's the final marker.
952
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,540
From what you do see from
the person in the video,
953
01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:31,170
you can tell that they have a
lot of physical deformities.
954
01:15:31,170 --> 01:15:34,050
And it's probably one of the main reasons
955
01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:38,930
why they chose to live where they lived,
956
01:15:38,930 --> 01:15:42,220
they felt shunned by society.
957
01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:48,560
When we found
out what actually happened,
958
01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:53,360
it was like this weight
959
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,780
had been taken off of
Beverly and I's relationship.
960
01:15:57,780 --> 01:16:02,080
And now we're actually really close.
961
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,000
And I actually consider
her kind of a big sister.
962
01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:22,430
I'm just hiking
along, almost to the top.
963
01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:25,810
Over that mountain side.
964
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:31,860
Still some thunder in the distance.
965
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,190
Amazing how far you can hike
966
01:16:36,190 --> 01:16:39,530
and only seeing a couple of deer,
967
01:16:39,530 --> 01:16:42,620
how much wildlife that I've seen,
968
01:16:42,620 --> 01:16:45,160
I'm sure they see me,
stay hidden.
969
01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:52,710
But just a lot of sagebrush
and trees and peaceful desert,
970
01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:58,210
to walk.
971
01:16:58,210 --> 01:17:01,930
The great thing about
Nevada, wide open spaces.
972
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:08,560
- Everybody immediately
wants to go and search
973
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,390
for the one thing
974
01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:12,520
that they've been told
not to go search for.
975
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,940
And so now there's this
whole band of influencers
976
01:17:15,940 --> 01:17:20,950
who are out there wanting
to find this person
977
01:17:22,990 --> 01:17:25,490
and post about it and blog about it
978
01:17:25,490 --> 01:17:27,870
and make a video about it.
979
01:17:27,870 --> 01:17:28,660
And,
980
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,120
to me that's,
981
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,590
I mean, that's terrifying.
981
01:17:36,305 --> 01:18:36,737
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