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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,520 # You've got to get up every morning 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:06,560 # With a smile on your face 3 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,680 # And show the world all the love in your heart 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,440 # And people are going to treat you better 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,080 # You're going to find Yes, you will 6 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:19,680 # That you're beautiful 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,760 # As you feel. # 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,440 I think I was kind of innocent 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,520 and I had the notions of the world 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,240 and what being a girl was from the '50s. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,040 We were all brought up to be cute and popular 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,720 and marry the nice boy who was going to make a lot of money 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,920 and there wasn't an emphasis on what WE were going to do. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,560 I was brought up to know that I was probably going to be a teacher. 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,520 I had teachers in my family. 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,240 # I feel the Earth move under my feet 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,880 # I feel the sky tumbling down 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,040 # I feel my heart start to trembling 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,120 # Whenever you're around. # 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,120 I became Carole King and I was confident about what I could do. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,280 I liked the idea of writing songs so that I would be recognised 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,880 and respected by the people who sang them. 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,200 And that's really what drove it - I can do that. 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,920 And I did. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,600 # You just call out my name 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,440 # And you know, wherever I am 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,600 # I'll come running. # 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,080 BARACK OBAMA: By the age of four, 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Carole was already mastering the piano. 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,320 By 15, she'd already conducted her first orchestra. 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:59,040 By 17, she'd already written her first number one hit. 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,520 To date, Carole has written more than 400 compositions 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,240 that have been recorded by over 1,000 artists, 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,720 resulting in over 100 hits. 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,320 # You've got a friend. # 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,360 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 37 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,400 APPLAUSE 38 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:41,760 # Tonight, you're mine completely 39 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:52,800 # You give your love so sweetly 40 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,960 # Tonight the light 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,480 # Of love is in your eyes 42 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:15,680 # But will you love me tomorrow? # 43 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,640 My mother had a piano, you know, right from before I was born. 44 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,400 And so I was able to play it 45 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,280 and work on it by ear and write little ditties. 46 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,680 But my mother also had been trained in piano, so she trained me. 47 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,440 She loved music and conveyed that to me 48 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,400 and I was born with the receptive gene! 49 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,200 So she would be the single most important influence. 50 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,640 She had a great record collection. She loved show tunes. 51 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,120 So early on, I got familiar with, you know, South Pacific, Oklahoma, 52 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,160 the great Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals, 53 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,400 and I would even sing commercials. 54 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,160 # Winston tastes good like a cigarette should. # 55 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,920 I had no idea what I was singing about. 56 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,080 My dad was a good father. 57 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,560 He nurtured in me that sense that I could do anything 58 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,240 and I better do it with excellence. 59 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 My parents, they never made me think 60 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,600 I couldn't do anything because I was a girl. 61 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,080 I played with the boys on the street. I was kind of tomboyish. 62 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,000 In high school, I was the girl who the guys wanted to be friends with. 63 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,040 I wasn't the one that they wanted to date. 64 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,560 Every high school in Brooklyn during the '50s had a rock and roll group. 65 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,320 They were all over the place. They were proliferating. 66 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,600 Danny and the Juniors were singing in the Bronx 67 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,720 and Neil Sedaka, at that time with The Tokens, 68 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,600 were singing at a Lincoln High School. 69 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,480 I think I was 15 when I formed my first group, 70 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,720 which was The Cosines. 71 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,640 It was, you know, we had math books - oh, cosines. 72 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,280 So whatever year I took trigonometry. 73 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 We performed at school dances and parties. 74 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,720 Anywhere we kind of had a chance or, you know, school shows. 75 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,280 She was the singer, she was the writer, 76 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,160 she was the piano player for the group 77 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,960 and she wanted this, she wanted this as a career. 78 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,640 I was inspired by the Alan Freed shows. 79 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,400 I saw these shows and I'm like, I can do that. 80 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,480 And I didn't ever want to be a singer. 81 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,840 I didn't want to be famous. 82 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,160 Fame didn't appeal to me. 83 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,680 I liked the idea of writing songs so that I would be recognised 84 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,200 and respected by the people who sang them. 85 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,080 In those days, you could be a kid, as Carole was, 86 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,440 16-years-old, coming from Brooklyn 87 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,400 and go into 1650 Broadway or into the Brill Building, 88 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,760 one of the two buildings that people think of 89 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,040 when they're talking about the Brill Building sound in Times Square, 90 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,920 that used to be where the Tin Pan Alley songwriters 91 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,480 came in the '20s to sell their songs. 92 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,800 You could walk in and they had a piano in the room 93 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,200 and you'd sit down and you'd play and they'd go, 94 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,560 "That's great, kid. I'll take that song. Here's $25." 95 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,360 And I was in the waiting room and there was this kid there. 96 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 She looked like she was about 15-years-old. In jeans. 97 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,400 And I started to talk with her. 98 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,960 And I thought to myself, God, this girl is so confident. 99 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 And I said to myself, 100 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,280 if this girl has talent, she's going to be a huge star. 101 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,200 And it happened to be Carole. 102 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 She was simply being paid to write songs 103 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,240 for top groups that needed songs 104 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,320 because in those days, there were very few singer-songwriters. 105 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,480 That phenomenon had not yet really occurred. 106 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,680 It was made-to-order songwriting. 107 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,480 You know, you were either writing for a specific artist 108 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,120 or you were writing a song that the publisher you were working for 109 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,080 would go out and shop to various singers. 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,600 You know, there was a breakdown in those days 111 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,560 between who wrote the song and who sang it. 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:02,120 # I don't remember just exactly how it started. # 113 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,280 I just saw him and I was like, 114 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:08,800 "Oh, my God, he looks like the picture of a boy 115 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,400 "I've been carrying around in my wallet, 116 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,880 "that I...was a drawing in a magazine!" 117 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,360 He was very handsome. 118 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,240 # It doesn't make a bit of sense to me 119 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,400 # Why should two people in love have to be 120 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,640 # Like little children. # 121 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,400 They were married very young. 122 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Very, very young, when they were teenagers, because she got pregnant. 123 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,040 # Who just can't help but fight 124 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 # Why should two grown people... # 125 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,920 He definitely came at a time in my life 126 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,640 when I needed somebody to write better lyrics than "Baby, baby". 127 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Aldon Music was a music publishing company that was started 128 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,520 by two fellas - Don Kirshner and Al Nevins. 129 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,520 So the Aldon is Al and Don together. 130 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,240 And they built up such a great reputation. 131 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Don Kirshner was the best publisher that I've ever come across. 132 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,400 And the company became so powerful that he would get record companies 133 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:11,400 to promise him the backside of a record just to get our material. 134 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,080 In those days, records had two sides. 135 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,320 That's right, there were things called records too, I forgot! Yes! 136 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,280 They had two sides. Right. 137 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,480 So it really became THE publishing company in New York City. 138 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Donny Kirshner, who was a great publisher, 139 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,080 who had a really good ear. 140 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 That group of writers - 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,280 Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil, Howie Greenfield, 142 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Neil Sedaka, Carole, Gerry, and some others in that group, 143 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,360 they had 36 top ten records in three years. 144 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,640 You know, it's historic. 145 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,000 # One fine day 146 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,440 # You'll look at me 147 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,400 # And you will know our love was meant be 148 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,880 # One fine day 149 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,000 # You're going to want me for your girl. # 150 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,800 All of us then were fans of American music 151 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,520 and would study every detail of the label. 152 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,360 And of course, the names Goffin and King 153 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 kept occurring in those little brackets 154 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,880 under some of our very favourite songs. 155 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Goffin and King wrote songs to order. 156 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,320 It was like, OK, somebody needs a hit, 157 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,320 you know, you write the song. 158 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,680 I hate the word "factory". I really hate it. 159 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:28,520 It was a songwriting school. 160 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,120 You went in in the morning and you know, 161 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,920 went to your cubicle or your little office, 162 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,880 there was a piano there and one of you sat there 163 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,560 and the other one, you know, jotted down some words 164 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,640 and you both sang or one of you sang 165 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,520 and you tried to come up with songs. 166 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,320 Like that, but it's got to be harder. 167 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,080 You know, when we write the lyric to it, it will be different. 168 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,600 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la. # 169 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Then sing again. 170 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,280 # La-la-la-la-la-la. # 171 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,600 On the right side of the main room, 172 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 there were about four different cubicles 173 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,720 and the cubicles would have, like, an upright piano and a piano stool 174 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,400 and one chair and an ashtray 175 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,360 because everybody smoked like crazy back then. 176 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 And it's amazing that we didn't get cancer. 177 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,960 And... There's still time. 178 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Yes. Thank you! 179 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,080 Cynthia Weil and Barry Mann, who is her husband, 180 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,040 and Gerry Goffin and I, were a pair of writing teams 181 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,040 that wrote for Don Kirshner. 182 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,000 Up On The Roof for them, On Broadway for us, 183 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,240 You've Lost That Loving Feeling for us... 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,680 Walking In The Rain for us, 185 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,600 Blame It On The Bossa Nova for us... 186 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,600 Natural Woman for them. 187 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Right. Hey Girl for them. 188 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,800 Yeah. Don't Say Nothing Bad About My Baby was them. 189 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,160 They'd start and finish and there was no like, 190 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,440 "Well, let's work on it for a few days and see what we come up with." 191 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,640 There was none of that. It was, like, they'd start, they'd finish. 192 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,760 And some of the best songs you ever heard done in 20 minutes. 193 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,720 Carole always said, "If they didn't write it, we wrote it." 194 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,720 The thing that is incredible and the thing that I love 195 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,880 about Carole King coming out of this world 196 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,320 of kind of factory songwriting, 197 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,800 is that she managed to both create songs 198 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,160 that have this deeply personal feeling 199 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,600 and that are so idiosyncratic and interesting, 200 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,440 but also were mass pop hits. 201 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,840 # What should I write? 202 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,040 # What can I say? 203 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,640 # How can I tell you how much I miss you? 204 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,520 # The weather here has been as nice as it can be 205 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,800 # Although it doesn't really matter much to me 206 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,760 # For all the fun I'll have 207 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,360 # While you're so far away 208 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,080 # It might as well rain until September. # 209 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,160 At that time, one child, it was in '61. 210 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,160 That was Louise. Sherry wasn't born until '62. 211 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Gerry was working as a chemist to support the family. 212 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,720 I was at home with the child, 213 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,840 the traditional male female roles. 214 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,560 We were also writing, you know, to try to make it, 215 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,680 to free ourselves of the nine to five, 216 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:24,320 except I was still taking care of the child and the house as well. 217 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,600 But that was...that was fine. 218 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,280 It worked out fine. 219 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 On the day Carole wrote Will You Love Me Tomorrow, 220 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,800 Gerry was at work because they didn't make enough money yet 221 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,960 for them to live off their writing. 222 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,960 He worked as a chemist. 223 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,720 She was at home. She wrote the song. He doesn't get home till later. 224 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,680 She leaves the song on the piano 225 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,640 and she goes out to play canasta with her mother's friends. 226 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,200 That's how hip she was. 227 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,800 You know, she said to me, 228 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,000 "You'll find out that even when I was a teenager, 229 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,320 "I was an old Jewish lady. 230 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 "That's what I was right from the beginning." 231 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,120 And once you hear the canasta story, you can kind of believe it. 232 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,000 We would be trying to write the follow up for a hit artist, right? 233 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Barry and I are both musical and receptive 234 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,600 to what it was that made that first song a hit. 235 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,440 It would be very competitive. 236 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,480 With Carole and Gerry we ended up being really good friends, 237 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,360 but at the same time, we'd be jealous of each other 238 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,960 if the other team got the record. 239 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,480 But... 240 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,760 And that was very confusing to us because as friends, we loved them. 241 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,840 But if they got the record, we hated them! 242 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Will You Love Me Tomorrow, 243 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,440 it was the follow up to a hit by the Shirelles. 244 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,240 Their hit was Tonight's The Night 245 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,440 and in writing Will You Love Me Tomorrow, 246 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,960 we tried to write Tonight's The Night sideways and upside down, 247 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,960 so it had some of the same feeling and yet was a new idea. 248 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,760 # I'd like to know that your love 249 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:58,320 # Is a love I can be sure of 250 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,560 # So tell me now 251 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:04,720 # And I won't ask again 252 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,240 # Will you still love me tomorrow? # 253 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Gerry Goffin wrote those words from a woman's perspective. 254 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,760 But Carole wrote this incredibly beautiful music 255 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,760 that has this drama of that moment of, you know, 256 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,120 making your sexual passage. 257 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,760 # So tell me now 258 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,400 # And I won't ask again 259 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,080 # Will you still love me tomorrow? # 260 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,560 It went to number one and we were delighted 261 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,680 because then we could devote ourselves 262 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,320 to working on songs full-time. 263 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,560 There's a reason why that song has lasted 264 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,640 and why people keep coming back to it. 265 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,000 There's an extraordinary beauty in it 266 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,160 and a kind of emotional texture that you might not ordinarily hear 267 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,920 in something that you would think of as a pop hit. 268 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,440 There's a simplicity to her melodies, 269 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,600 not unlike Richard Rodgers in his time. 270 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,040 And... 271 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,680 And the words just belong to those melodies. 272 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Carole's melodies are sometimes more joyful than Gerry's lyrics. 273 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,680 The lyrics can sometimes have a lot of darkness in it 274 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,560 that she sets off with a more optimistic melody. 275 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,720 # Take good care of my baby 276 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,960 # Now don't you ever make her cry 277 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,760 # Just let your love surround her 278 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,640 # Paint a rainbow all around her 279 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,480 # Don't let her see a cloudy sky 280 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,480 # Once upon a time 281 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,800 # That little girl was mine 282 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,080 # Oh, if I'd been true 283 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 # I know she'd never be with you 284 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,680 # So take good care of my baby 285 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,920 # Be just as kind as you can be 286 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,520 # And if you should discover 287 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,080 # That you don't really love her 288 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,400 # Just send my baby back home to me. # 289 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,400 It got to the point where we were spending a lot of time 290 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,000 in the studio making demos, 291 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,880 and I used to bring Louise to the studio in her little play pen. 292 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,840 And you know, it got to be kind of hard to do both, 293 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,480 so Little Eva came to stay with Louise. 294 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,920 And people had the impression 295 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 that she was pushing a broom around the kitchen one day 296 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,760 and he heard her sing and said, "Stop, we must record that voice!" 297 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,520 But the fact of the matter is, 298 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,240 we knew that she could sing when she came to work for us, 299 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,680 and it was just a matter of time 300 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 before we were going to have her sing on some of our demos. 301 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,960 # Everybody's doing a brand-new dance now 302 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,360 # Come on, baby, do the loco-motion 303 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,320 # I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now 304 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,880 # Come on, baby, do the loco-motion 305 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,240 # My little baby sister can do it with me 306 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 # It's easier than learning your ABC 307 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,200 # So come on, come on 308 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,480 # Do the loco-motion with me. # 309 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,080 There never was a dance, the loco-motion, 310 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,520 until after it was a number one hit record. 311 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,480 And everybody says, "How does this dance go?" 312 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,400 So Little Eva had to make up a dance! 313 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,240 This is pre-Beatles, 314 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 so a lot of pop music was bubble gum music 315 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,080 and a lot of it was... 316 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,800 I don't know, there wasn't a lot going on in pop music, 317 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,920 and they stood out completely. 318 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,000 When the Beatles started to write songs, 319 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,360 I have no question they looked to Goffin and King, 320 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:47,360 and they overtly spoke of Goffin and King as among their inspirations. 321 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,560 # I want to tell you, pretty baby 322 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,360 # I think you'll find 323 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,800 # I'd like to love you 324 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,280 # But darling, I'm imprisoned by these chains 325 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,400 # My baby's got me locked up in chains 326 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,280 # And they ain't the kind 327 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,720 # That you can see. # 328 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,040 I thought it was really neat when the Beatles did my song, Chains, 329 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,440 because they were this big phenomenon in this country 330 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,720 and everybody was going, "Oh wow, and they're great songwriters." 331 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240 And Gerry and I had written Chains for The Cookies 332 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,280 and had a record with it here. 333 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,800 The original image was, you know, that old street corner music, 334 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,240 you know, three people standing there and just doing it in harmony, 335 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,040 which we do in concert sometimes. 336 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,720 # Chains 337 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,000 # My baby's got me locked up in chains 338 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,880 # And they ain't the kind 339 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,520 # That you can see 340 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,720 # Whoa-oh, these chains of love 341 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,800 # Got a hold on me 342 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,400 # Yeah. # 343 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,840 I sort of feel like I'm still learning things about Carole King. 344 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,440 I mean, this woman wrote so many amazing songs. 345 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,760 # I walked her home and she held my hand 346 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,280 # I knew it couldn't be just a one-night stand 347 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,240 # So I asked to see her next week and she told me I could 348 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,480 # I asked to see her and she told me I could 349 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,000 # Something tells me I'm into something good 350 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,080 # Something tells me I'm into something 351 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,280 # Something tells me I'm into something 352 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,280 # Something tells me I'm into something good 353 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,080 # Something tells me I'm into something 354 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,800 # To something good, oh, yeah. # 355 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,880 I remember making a suggestion about writing something 356 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,800 about a secret place, some place somebody goes. 357 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,720 You know, where do you go? 358 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,160 And in New York, where we lived at the time, 359 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,760 one of the few places you could go at the time to get away 360 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,560 was up on the roof. 361 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,560 # When this old world starts getting me down 362 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:06,360 # And people are just too much for me to face 363 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,040 # I climb way up to the top of the stairs 364 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:18,280 # And all my cares just drift right into space 365 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,480 # On the roof's the only place I know 366 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,160 # Where you just have to wish to make it so 367 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,120 # Let's go 368 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,440 # Up on the roof 369 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,560 # Up on the roof. # 370 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,640 She wanted to live in the suburbs 371 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,000 and the reason they lived in the suburbs is she was always like, 372 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,960 "Let's move to the suburbs. That's where it's happening." 373 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,720 We would never think of moving to the suburbs. 374 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,920 This wasn't a thought in our mind. We lived in Manhattan. 375 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,160 FORCED ACCENT: We were just so hip and they weren't! 376 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,640 So she wanted a house and the tree 377 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,640 and the yard and the kids and the dog, the cat. 378 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,440 She just wanted to be a normal housewife. 379 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,880 So all I remember is this house in West Orange, New Jersey, 380 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,600 and having these two kind of weirdish parents 381 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,360 compared to the other parents on the street. 382 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:18,800 "Another Pleasant Valley Sunday here in status symbol land." 383 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,720 You know, lyrics like that, that... 384 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,120 ..are a comment. 385 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,320 Goffin is trying to say something. 386 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,280 He wanted to be cool and live in the Village or something, you know. 387 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,240 So he hates it. 388 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,960 # Rows of houses that are all the same 389 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,720 # And no-one seems to care. # 390 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,840 I think he felt that he was trapped in suburbia 391 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,520 and Pleasant Valley Sunday was his anthem of rebellion. 392 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720 # See Mrs Gray, she's proud today 393 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,640 # Because her roses are in bloom 394 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,200 # Bloom 395 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,680 # And Mr Green, he's so serene 396 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,240 # He's got a TV in every room... # 397 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,440 Morning, Frank. Hi, Marv. 398 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,440 # Another Pleasant Valley Sunday 399 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,320 # Sunday 400 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,960 # Here in status symbol land. # 401 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,520 I remember being so impressed when my mum and dad had a song 402 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,720 on The Monkees album because The Monkees were all that then. 403 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,000 And I do remember that Davy Jones came over to our house one time, 404 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,080 which just floored me. 405 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,640 At six-years-old, Davy Jones was... 406 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,680 You know, he was the perfect height for a six-year-old! 407 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,160 But he was... 408 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,640 He was just the whole world to me. 409 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Those songs are... 410 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560 I mean, to my mind, they're masterpieces, you know. 411 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,200 I think that, you know... 412 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,720 You know, without the self-consciousness 413 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,440 of, you know, like, Dylan or something like that. 414 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,680 You know, you can go back and revisit those songs 415 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,440 and, you know, really enjoy them and find a lot of meaning in them. 416 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Carole was writing music that, you know, 417 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,200 had a sophistication that elevated it. 418 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,960 And, you know, Gerry Goffin also was writing lyrics 419 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,240 with a sophistication that elevated the songs 420 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,840 at the same time as, you know, these were pop songs. 421 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Natural Woman, that's a Gerry Goffin lyric. 422 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,120 That's a man writing about what a woman feels, 423 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,440 which is, you know, incredible. 424 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,400 That's how great he was as a lyricist. 425 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,880 "When my soul was in the lost and found, you came along to claim it." 426 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Those words, how he packed all that emotion in those words, 427 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,360 is a miracle. 428 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 # When my soul 429 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,040 # Was in the lost and found 430 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,760 # You came along to claim it 431 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,600 # I didn't know 432 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,000 # Just what was wrong with me 433 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,840 # Until your kiss helped me name it 434 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,000 # Now I'm no longer doubtful 435 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,560 # Of what I'm living for 436 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,600 # Cos if I make you happy 437 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,760 # Do I need to do more? 438 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,800 # Because you make me feel 439 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,880 # You make me feel 440 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,880 # You make me feel like a natural woman 441 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080 # Woman. # 442 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,920 Aretha Franklin's version is peerless. 443 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,560 I mean, there's an extraordinary kind of passion 444 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,920 and, erm, you know, 445 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,800 intelligence to her delivery of what that song was. 446 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280 When Carole revisited it later, you know, 447 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,040 it was, in a sense, more timely, 448 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,920 where it wasn't just about, you know, 449 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,120 going off and getting married and having the kids. 450 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,120 I mean, it was about, like, 451 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,000 I think women wanting to find somebody who got them. 452 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,640 # Looking out on the morning rain 453 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,800 # I used to feel uninspired 454 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,120 # And when I knew I'd have to face another day 455 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,680 # Lord, it made me feel so tired 456 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,600 # Before the day I met you 457 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,840 # Life was so unkind 458 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,520 # But your loving words are the key to my peace of mind 459 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,160 # Cos you make me feel 460 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,560 # You make me feel 461 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:08,960 # You make me feel like a natural woman. # 462 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,680 Carole's voice is so personal. 463 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,840 It really seemed as if you were reading, you know, 464 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,600 something written in someone's soul. 465 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,520 # You make me feel so good inside 466 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,360 # And I just want to be 467 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,040 # Close to you 468 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,040 # You make me feel so alive 469 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,280 # You make me feel 470 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 # You make me feel 471 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:58,360 # You make me feel like a natural 472 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,600 # Natural woman 473 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560 # You make me feel 474 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,920 # You know you make me feel 475 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,000 # You know you make me feel 476 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,160 # Like a natural woman 477 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,720 # You make me feel 478 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,080 # Like a natural woman 479 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,480 # Natural woman. # 480 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000 There's a lot of forgiveness in her music. 481 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,440 There's a lot of compassion in her music, 482 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,400 but forgiveness is a key thing. 483 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,080 She goes through a real break-up in her life. 484 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,560 Her husband has been unfaithful to her more than once. 485 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,400 She loved him a lot. 486 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,160 He loved her too, but it couldn't work. 487 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,720 And that infidelity came out of a real frustration 488 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,320 that they'd been married for four years and Gerry was still only 23. 489 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,640 You know, he was a very handsome guy. 490 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,320 There were a lot of beautiful women around all the time. 491 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,760 And he told Carole about it before he did it. 492 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040 It's one of the interesting things about the story - 493 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,840 he kind of asked for her permission. 494 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,800 There was a point where I just went... 495 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,920 ..I deserve to have a better... 496 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,960 ..better treatment than this. 497 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,640 I deserve to have a husband who is faithful. 498 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,760 I remember the divorce happened simultaneous with the move to LA. 499 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,080 They were splitting up and moving into separate houses 500 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,400 as we moved to LA from our house together. 501 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,280 And I just thought, "Oh, cool, we're going to have two houses, 502 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,520 "that's going to be so cool." 503 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,200 It didn't hit me like, "Oh, my God, my parents are splitting up." 504 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,480 It was like part of our family was being taken away from us. 505 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,440 It was very disturbing for us. 506 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680 And I worried about her and I worried about the kids 507 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,640 and I worried about him and what was going to happen to everybody. 508 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,040 I moved to California in about 1968 and James Taylor 509 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,000 was just in the process of coming over with Peter Asher. 510 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,400 When a year ago, you were cycling home from school in London 511 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160 at 4:00pm in the afternoon and it was raining and dark, 512 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360 and suddenly, you're in a Mustang convertible and it's not raining, 513 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880 it's not dark and there's beautiful blondes everywhere, 514 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,240 you're going to go, 515 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,600 "This is probably an improvement. I think this is a good move." 516 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320 It was a very exciting scene at the time. 517 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,360 We were all friends and liked to play the same music. 518 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400 And before too long I found myself teamed up professionally 519 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,880 and personally with Charles Larkey. 520 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Charles Larkey, he moved in with us. 521 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,960 He was my stepdad and he moved into Wonderland with us. 522 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200 Can we just go over the first part again 523 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600 so I can get some continuity of how it's going to feel because... 524 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,760 How about if I come in in the second half of the intro there? 525 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320 Oh, OK. All right, that would be better. 526 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,680 # So when the sun goes down 527 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,080 # On the city 528 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:28,800 # Don't give in to feeling self-pity 529 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,360 # Your lover may be knocking on the door 530 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,080 # And it may be like knowing 531 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,560 # Someone you never met before. # 532 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,280 I was contacted by Carole when she moved out here from New York. 533 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,320 She didn't know a lot of people out here 534 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,160 or a lot of people in the music industry, for sure. 535 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,800 And she had gotten together with Danny Kortchmar 536 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,760 and Charlie Larkey as a group called The City, 537 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,160 and that's the first thing that I recorded with Carole 538 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,800 on the West Coast. 539 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,880 Carole had just divorced from her husband. 540 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,720 And we just got along well and I remember feeling good about it. 541 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,880 And obviously she did too. 542 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760 She became my writing partner from that night on 543 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,280 and we worked together for around five years. 544 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,560 I would write the lyric first, I would give it to Carole 545 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,640 and she would write the melodies to my lyrics in an hour. 546 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040 Including the arrangement. 547 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:43,080 The first thing that I envisioned with Carole after The City album, 548 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,400 which I had to treat as a group, 549 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,960 was a solo artist that you always felt 550 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,400 she was sitting at the piano and singing to you. 551 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,480 By then I had met James and I was starting to sing on his album. 552 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680 I think he was recording Mud Slide Slim by then. 553 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640 He had already had Sweet Baby James. I had played on that. 554 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,400 It was great and we played on each other's records. 555 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,680 We just had a common mind, you know. 556 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,400 He just made it look so easy, 557 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640 so I did Tapestry in the same spirit. 558 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760 The Carpenters were in Studio A. 559 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,040 Joni Mitchell doing Blue in Studio C. 560 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,240 Carole was here, we were making a good record. 561 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,440 And that's all we knew then, and it was a simple record. 562 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Records like Tapestry could be overproduced in a minute. 563 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480 You know, oh, let's add more guitars. 564 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,560 Let's add more this, more that. 565 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Lou and Carole wanted that simplicity. 566 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,720 They wanted it to be just nice and warm 567 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,680 and a very comfortable record for people to enjoy. 568 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,320 # I feel the Earth move under my feet 569 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,920 # I feel the sky tumbling down 570 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,080 # I feel my heart start to trembling 571 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:13,360 # Whenever you're around. # 572 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,360 I wanted to stay that simple and always have that feeling 573 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880 that Carole was singing to you. 574 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,160 We turned all the lights down in the room, 575 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,120 all the lights that we're seeing 576 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400 and all of the background lights down and all that stuff. 577 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,800 And after a while, they got so comfortable with that 578 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,120 that they were like playing in their living room. 579 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Will You Love Me Tomorrow, Joni and James sang background on. 580 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,360 James was on a lot of Tapestry. 581 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,640 If he wasn't singing, he was playing. 582 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,920 They were all friends, Joni and James. They all were friendly. 583 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,720 And it was fun. 584 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,360 You know, they would come in and Carole knew what she wanted. 585 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,440 We were doing two or three tunes a day. It's hard to imagine now. 586 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,520 It took us three weeks to make Tapestry. 587 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600 $22,000. 588 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,880 She got involved in every single part. 589 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,360 I mean, she had specific ideas of what she wanted me to play, 590 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,400 specific ideas for the bass player to play. 591 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Carole just said, "You play a solo here". And I did! 592 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,320 Vinyl used to have two sides. 593 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,240 There used to be a logical place for a pause. 594 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:36,400 And we, as the creators of that product, 595 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,360 had to build in a place for that pause. 596 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,960 It would be like the intermission in a play. 597 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,200 Sequencing at that time was very, very important. 598 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,920 You go through one side, you turn it over, 599 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,320 and all of that was based on one person listening to it. 600 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,360 # As I watched in sorrow 601 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,160 # There suddenly appeared 602 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,400 # A figure grey and ghostly 603 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040 # Beneath a flowing beard 604 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,080 # In times of deepest darkness 605 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,040 # I've seen him dressed in black 606 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,720 # Now my tapestry's unravelling 607 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,240 # He's come to take me back 608 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:22,720 # He's come to take me back. # 609 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,040 Tapestry was one of those albums. 610 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,920 That it came out and it was everywhere, immediately. 611 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,400 Tapestry hit a nerve with people at that time. 612 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,400 This became their soundtrack of their life. 613 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120 It was the right songs at the right time 614 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,440 for the audience that was ready for them. 615 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,360 They said everything that people were feeling 616 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,800 and couldn't really express. 617 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,640 Here, you know, the Vietnam War was still raging. 618 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,240 You know, there were 550,000 American troops in Vietnam in 1969. 619 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,560 Vietnam's not that big a country. It's half a million troops. 620 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,560 There were still the after effects of the assassinations. 621 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,760 You know, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. 622 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,960 And there's still a lot of anger in the atmosphere. 623 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,440 The great '60s ambitions, great utopian hopes, 624 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,800 clearly weren't going to materialise, 625 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840 so people began looking inward 626 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560 and that was the singer-songwriter movement. 627 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,320 It was the moment of the singer-songwriter in America, 628 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,960 in its purest and most magical form. 629 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,880 # Stayed in bed all morning just to pass the time 630 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,040 # There's something wrong here 631 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080 # There can be no denying 632 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,720 # One of us is changing 633 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:56,720 # Or maybe we've just stopped trying 634 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,560 # And it's too late, baby 635 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,040 # Now, it's too late 636 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,440 # Though we really did try to make it. # 637 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,320 This is a song about disappointment, 638 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,080 but the ever youthful optimism of youth. 639 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,720 And I'm an optimistic person, so the last verse addresses that, 640 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:26,680 that we both have a future, though not with one another. 641 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,680 # There'll be good times again for me and you 642 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,280 # But we just can't stay together 643 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,640 # Don't you feel it too? 644 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,680 # Still, I'm glad for what we had 645 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,440 # And how I once loved you. # 646 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,480 I think it really hit home for so many people, especially women. 647 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,280 It was my go-to record for any time I wanted to feel better. 648 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,440 It was like a friend. 649 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,640 There was a lot of luck involved. Right place, right time. 650 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,520 I mean, picture a nice Jewish girl from Brooklyn 651 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,880 coming out in today's market without the, you know, 652 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,920 the body, the costumes, the whole thing. 653 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,840 She was reluctant to go out on the road for months 654 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,520 and leave her daughters and to be gone. 655 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,920 So she was very reluctant to go out, she didn't want to tour. 656 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,920 I've always had confidence in the fact that when I played music, 657 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560 it touched people in some way. 658 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,160 And the place I didn't have confidence was as a performer. 659 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,280 And that's where you came in. 660 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,960 It was James and me saying to Carole, 661 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,800 "Look, would you sing some of them", you know, "open the show?" 662 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,680 And she agreed to do so. 663 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,560 She was very nervous. She was scared. 664 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,320 She got over her stage fright very quickly 665 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960 because she had an incident that happened 666 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,720 when she was performing at The Troubadour. 667 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,240 So she sits down and she plays, 668 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,360 I don't know, one song, one-and-a-half song, 669 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920 and then Doug Weston, who owns The Troubadour, says, 670 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,000 "I'm sorry, we're going to have to empty the building. 671 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,680 "We've had a bomb threat." 672 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,800 So we walked out and then we came back in 673 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,600 and Carole sat down at the piano, 674 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,560 they cleared it and she said about the bomb, she says, 675 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,640 "As long as it's not me!" 676 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,040 And that cracked the audience up and from then on she was not nervous. 677 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680 It turned out we spoke the same language. 678 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,200 We sat down and we slipped back into the mother tongue, really. 679 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000 It was great. 680 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,920 # So far away 681 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,280 # Doesn't anybody stay in one place any more? 682 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,720 # It would be so fine to see your face at my door. # 683 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:47,800 What's your take on how difficult it is 684 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,080 for a woman to have a career in the performing arts 685 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,320 and also maintain a family? 686 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,680 I mean... Very difficult. Very difficult. 687 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,400 The only time, I guess, when I had really young children 688 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560 that I ever was on tour was with you. 689 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,720 And I remember we were, I think, away for six weeks, 690 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,320 home for two weeks and then away for another six weeks. 691 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,440 And that six weeks, it was very difficult. 692 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,880 I remember crying, listening to So Far Away, 693 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,560 like she was singing it to me. 694 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,480 # But you're so far away 695 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,440 # Doesn't anybody stay in one place any more? 696 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,520 # It would be so fine to see your face at my door 697 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,520 # Doesn't help to know 698 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,760 # You're so far away. # 699 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,000 Leaving California was something that didn't come easy, 700 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,760 but I don't think I was running away. 701 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,160 I was running TO something. 702 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,480 I was running to a simpler life. 703 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,600 I was running to a place where I could be on the land, grow a garden. 704 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,840 I know you can do that in LA too, but it's not the same. 705 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,600 I'm pretty sure I was 14 706 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,360 when Rick Evers met my mum 707 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,080 and quickly took us to Idaho. 708 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,320 Rick was from Idaho and I saw him as my interpreter. 709 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,160 The person who would bring me to Idaho, 710 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,680 the person who would show me what it's like to live out there. 711 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,360 And, you know, I fell in love with him. 712 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,400 I fell in love with the idea of him. 713 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,080 I fell in love with what that meant to me. 714 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,960 And when he... He just hit me one day, just out of the blue. 715 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,640 I'm like, "What?!" 716 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,680 He had a really scary temper. 717 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,760 When he would get angry, I would feel scared. 718 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,400 I would.... I would, like, run in a room and lock the door. 719 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,800 Even though he'd never hit me, I felt like he was going to. 720 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,760 Sometimes he actually fist... Hit me with his fist. 721 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:08,320 At one point he hit Danny Kortchmar coming off stage and hit him hard. 722 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,720 He was obviously a troubled, deeply, deeply troubled, 723 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,160 screwed up individual and was making Carole's life miserable. 724 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,400 They hated him and they had every right to. 725 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160 And as a person, they didn't like him 726 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,120 and they didn't like the way he treated Carole. 727 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,000 I'd go down and be, you know, crying or whatever, 728 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,160 he'd be, "Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry." 729 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,040 Now I have the power. 730 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,160 That is a dynamic that happens sometimes and then the making up. 731 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,320 My mum just said, "I've had enough. I'm leaving. Sherry, come on." 732 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,480 And we flew to Hawaii and when we got to Hawaii 733 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,040 we got a message that Rick died. 734 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,760 He killed himself. 735 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,360 He actually shot up too much drugs and he did it to himself. 736 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,040 It's not like, you know, some tragic thing happened to him. 737 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,080 He just... He just was stupid. 738 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:05,200 # And all I want is a quiet place to live 739 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,440 # Where I can be free in a world of my making... # 740 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,720 She fell in love with Idaho. 741 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:18,520 # What they decided to give 742 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,600 # I wouldn't want what they have, no 743 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,960 If I could only find... # 744 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,960 She fell harder for Idaho than she fell for Rick Evers. 745 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040 '78, after Rick Evers died, 746 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,120 I decided that I was definitely going to go back to Idaho 747 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,840 with my two younger children, Molly and Levi. 748 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,560 She's still in love with Idaho. She loves the mountains. 749 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,800 She loves the air. 750 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,920 Living in Idaho, which is part of the northern Rockies ecosystem 751 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,800 and what it means in my area of the country 752 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,000 is that a bear doesn't get to a state line and say, 753 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,280 "Oh, that law in this state means I'm protected here, 754 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,160 "so I'd better not go into the next state where I'm not protected." 755 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,280 I think the wide open spaces were...was calling to her. 756 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,320 This is where she wanted to... 757 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,880 ..I think have her sort of, her life. 758 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,840 We treat the northern Rockies as an ecosystem 759 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,480 and there's a piece of legislation that I work on 760 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,120 called The Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act. 761 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,720 She's come to Capitol Hill just not to get the door open. 762 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,080 She understands the landscape. 763 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,160 She understands the politics. 764 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,480 She's telling them about the science. 765 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,160 She's talking about what the habitat destruction is doing. 766 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,640 She understands the economics of it. 767 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,560 This is my other life, my other world. 768 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,520 So, I don't know... 769 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,600 I could go on much longer than anyone wants me to, 770 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,440 but I'm going to keep working on that until it is signed into law. 771 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,840 She's happiest with a quiet life in Idaho. 772 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,360 She will still tour and play shows and she records from time to time. 773 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080 But if she could, she'd be there all the time. 774 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,200 # You got to get up every morning 775 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,560 # With a smile on your face 776 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,440 # And show the world all the love in your heart 777 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,920 WHOOPING 778 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,720 # Then people going to treat you better 779 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,000 # You're going to find, yes, you will. # 780 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,920 When I first heard about the idea of the show 781 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,760 that is now Beautiful - The Carole King Musical, 782 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,720 I was like, I don't want that to be made. 783 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,280 I don't want a Broadway show about me. 784 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,360 But then to read this great book by Doug McGrath, 785 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,720 in which he does tell the story so compellingly. 786 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:45,480 The idea started of making a musical based on all four of us, 787 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,000 based on our friendship and our competition with each other 788 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,760 in the early '60s. 789 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,040 I thought, these are four interesting people. 790 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,200 I'd met Carole, Gerry, Barry and Cynthia, 791 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,240 and they were really interesting, charming and funny and smart. 792 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,680 After the first reading, the feedback that they got was, 793 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,080 well, you're stopping before Tapestry. Right. 794 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,840 You can't do that. We feel cheated. 795 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760 We want to hear those Tapestry songs. So it switched. 796 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,000 So the focus became more on Carole and we became supporting players. 797 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,920 We used to joke that they were Lucy and Desi 798 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,240 and we were Fred and Ethel. 799 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,200 # You've got to get up every morning 800 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,400 # With a smile on your face 801 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,440 # And show the world all the love in your heart 802 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,960 # Show the world 803 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,440 # Then people going to treat you better 804 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200 # You're going to find, yes, you will 805 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,200 # That you're beautiful 806 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,920 # You're so beautiful 807 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,400 # You're beautiful So beautiful 808 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,000 # So beautiful You're so beautiful 809 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,760 # As you feel 810 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120 # As you feel. # 811 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,320 I think Beautiful is a hit because the music 812 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,520 is the soundtrack of people's lives, 813 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,680 and younger people, it's been the soundtrack of their lives, 814 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,040 but they didn't realise that, you know, 815 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,240 it was attached to me necessarily or attached to the writers. 816 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,720 When I was told that I was going to win the Gershwin Prize, 817 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,000 I was floored. 818 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,960 First of all, I was the fifth recipient. 819 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,640 I was going to be the first woman, which in itself is amazing. 820 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,360 And I was going to be presented with the award by President Obama. 821 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,960 As Carole tells it, the secret to her success is that, 822 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,080 "I try to get out of the way 823 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,400 "and let the process be guided by whatever is driving me." 824 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,840 So tonight, it is my great pleasure 825 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,880 to present America's highest award for popular music 826 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,080 to a living legend. 827 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,920 APPLAUSE 828 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,520 The coming together of my two worlds, 829 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,200 of the political world and all the people I knew in Washington, 830 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,360 that was a different kind of amazing to me. 831 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,040 I would tell people, not just in music, 832 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,440 I would just say to anybody, if you want to do something, go for it. 833 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,240 Try. Don't tell yourself you can't make it. 834 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,480 Don't let your parents tell you you can't make it. 835 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,160 Let the world tell you you can't make it, after having tried. 836 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,120 Or maybe let the world discover you, 837 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,480 but don't fail to try. 838 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,920 Because if you don't try, you can't succeed. 839 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,480 Her legacy may be like a Gershwin legacy 840 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,640 or a Rodgers and Hammerstein legacy, 841 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,600 because there is a generation now that just adores her stuff. 842 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,760 # When you're down 843 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,640 # And troubled 844 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,440 # And you need some loving care 845 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,120 # And nothing 846 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,680 # Oh, nothing is going right 847 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,360 # Close your eyes and think of me 848 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,560 # And soon I will be there... # 849 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,040 Her songs will last, which is really the test of time. 850 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,720 That's all we have, really, is what songs remain 851 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,960 and which fall away. 852 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,880 And I think Carole's songs will be here for a long time. 853 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,040 # You just call out my name 854 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,800 # And you know, wherever I am... # 855 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,440 Her singing is not... 856 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,280 It doesn't have a lot of artifice in it or ornamentation. 857 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,760 It's pure. It's like, here's who I am. 858 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,920 And I think people... I think that's what they love about her. 859 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,400 The emotion that's in Tapestry is not foreign to people now. 860 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,440 I mean, women are still thinking about, 861 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,720 will you love me tomorrow, the next day, you know. 862 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,120 It's just such a universal language for the human heart. 863 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,920 # Hey, now 864 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,960 # Now, ain't it good to know that you've got a friend... # 865 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,600 I would think honesty is a prevailing emotion of Carole 866 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,760 as a writer and a performer. 867 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,840 She said exactly what I was going to say. 868 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,720 Yeah, but I'm the lyricist, so I said it. 869 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,840 If Tapestry never existed, 870 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,880 Carole King would still be among the handful 871 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,800 of most important songwriters in pop music history. 872 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,720 So let's just say that. 873 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,080 I've had hopeless times in my life about different things 874 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,520 and you just have to persevere because one day, that door does open 875 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,640 and if you don't persevere, you won't be there when it does. 876 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,880 # Oh, yes, I will 877 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,600 # To see you again 878 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,880 # See you again and again 879 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,520 # Winter, spring, summer or fall 880 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,680 # All you've got to do is call 881 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,080 # And I'll be there, yes, I will 882 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,360 # You've got a friend 883 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,600 # You've got a friend 884 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,600 # Ain't it good to know 885 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,480 # Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 886 00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:28,000 # You've got a friend. # 887 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,920 # One fine day 888 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,280 # We'll meet once more 889 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,880 # And then you'll want the love 890 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,440 # You threw away before 891 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160 # One fine day 892 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,560 # You're going to want me for your girl 893 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,600 # One fine day 894 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,760 # Oh-oh-oh 895 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,000 # One fine day 896 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,320 # You're going to want me for your girl 897 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,440 # One fine day 898 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,440 # You're going to want me for your 899 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,640 # Girl. # 115022

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