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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,853 --> 00:00:20,605 Here we go. Quiet, please. 2 00:00:21,022 --> 00:00:22,249 - Roll sound. - Rolling. 3 00:00:22,273 --> 00:00:23,273 Two. 4 00:00:23,733 --> 00:00:26,277 It's funny. A lot of people say they'd like to be Michael Jordan 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,279 for a day or for a week, 6 00:00:28,362 --> 00:00:31,699 but let them try to be Michael Jordan for a year 7 00:00:31,782 --> 00:00:33,326 and see if they like it. 8 00:00:33,409 --> 00:00:34,952 Let's try to get one more. 9 00:00:35,369 --> 00:00:36,746 - Rolling. - Two. 10 00:00:37,538 --> 00:00:39,290 It's funny. A lot of people told me 11 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:42,210 that they'd like to be Michael Jordan for a day or for a week, 12 00:00:42,293 --> 00:00:45,671 but I don't think you can see the true Michael Jordan for just a day. 13 00:00:45,755 --> 00:00:48,090 Five, six. 14 00:00:48,883 --> 00:00:49,967 Rolling. 15 00:00:50,885 --> 00:00:51,886 Cameras. 16 00:00:53,095 --> 00:00:54,722 It's funny. A lot of people say 17 00:00:54,805 --> 00:00:57,808 they'd like to try to be Michael Jordan for a day or for a week, 18 00:00:57,892 --> 00:01:02,313 but I don't think they quite understand it's no fun. 19 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:04,690 Okay. 20 00:01:19,247 --> 00:01:21,040 All right, well, I just wanted to touch base. 21 00:01:21,123 --> 00:01:22,792 I gotta get something for the news. 22 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:29,674 This is it. Lay back, watch TV all day. 23 00:01:31,175 --> 00:01:33,844 It's peaceful here until you guys come up in here. 24 00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:37,515 I don't have to worry about anybody bothering me. 25 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:43,646 I think what people don't realize is that... 26 00:01:44,772 --> 00:01:48,234 From the moment Michael Jordan leaves his hotel room, 27 00:01:48,317 --> 00:01:49,986 the spotlight is on him. 28 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:02,164 Everybody in the world wanted to either see him, talk to him. 29 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:06,502 They all wanted a piece of him in some way or another. 30 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:11,215 He was under pressure to be on all the time with people. 31 00:02:11,299 --> 00:02:13,342 Michael, could I get a picture with you and my son? 32 00:02:13,426 --> 00:02:14,844 Skipping nursery school, huh? 33 00:02:19,849 --> 00:02:22,560 Given his whole hectic schedule, before a game, 34 00:02:22,643 --> 00:02:25,479 he would sit down for five minutes, ten minutes, 35 00:02:25,563 --> 00:02:27,440 with a terminally ill child. 36 00:02:27,523 --> 00:02:29,650 - You ain't got a birthday, do you? Oh. - No. 37 00:02:29,734 --> 00:02:32,862 And he made the kids feel like they knew Michael Jordan. 38 00:02:35,072 --> 00:02:37,825 On top of all that, he had to perform. 39 00:02:37,908 --> 00:02:41,412 Jordan puts up a clutch reverse layup! 40 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:42,496 Michael Jordan! 41 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:47,209 He knew that everybody for every game was there to see him. 42 00:02:50,087 --> 00:02:53,758 After the game, he has ten minutes in the locker room to cool off... 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,886 And then a room full of media. 44 00:02:56,969 --> 00:02:58,864 How do you deal with the constant media attention? 45 00:02:58,888 --> 00:03:00,407 How are you gonna entertain us tonight? 46 00:03:00,431 --> 00:03:02,933 But even when he's done with the media interviews, 47 00:03:03,017 --> 00:03:06,270 he still had to hang around people that would come up to him. 48 00:03:06,354 --> 00:03:10,358 It was like a flock of bees around honey, trailing him down the hallway. 49 00:03:10,441 --> 00:03:13,903 Listen, everybody. Can we move this way and kind of spread out a little? 50 00:03:13,986 --> 00:03:15,738 I swear to you, he ain't gonna run away. 51 00:03:15,821 --> 00:03:19,867 Then you get back to the hotel, another large group of people. 52 00:03:26,957 --> 00:03:29,043 I wouldn't want to be like Mike. 53 00:03:29,126 --> 00:03:31,045 It's an impossible task. 54 00:03:33,464 --> 00:03:38,469 You know, this is not one of those lifestyles that you envy, you know? 55 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:41,806 Where you can't... You're confined to this room. 56 00:03:42,681 --> 00:03:45,559 I'm ready for getting out of this life, you know. 57 00:03:45,643 --> 00:03:48,229 You know when you get to that point. 58 00:03:49,146 --> 00:03:52,483 I'm there, with no reservations at all. 59 00:03:52,566 --> 00:03:53,818 I'm there. 60 00:03:56,737 --> 00:03:58,239 A spectacular move! 61 00:03:58,322 --> 00:03:59,907 And the game's over! 62 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:02,243 Chicago stadium is going wild! 63 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:06,789 First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. 64 00:04:06,872 --> 00:04:08,266 It's time for me to move on. 65 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:10,850 This will be Phil's last year as the coach of the bulls. 66 00:04:12,837 --> 00:04:14,398 Are the expectations way too h/gh 7 67 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:15,339 Where do we go from here? 68 00:04:15,423 --> 00:04:17,925 The only question: How long can it last? 69 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:28,703 Oh, you were recording that. 70 00:04:35,943 --> 00:04:39,363 Wayne, k ova/ev and gretzky! And the... 71 00:04:51,208 --> 00:04:53,061 - Oh, that ain't good. - Not that one. 72 00:04:53,085 --> 00:04:55,504 See, they get all the tries till they get one close, 73 00:04:55,588 --> 00:04:57,548 and then I get three or two tries to beat them. 74 00:04:57,631 --> 00:04:59,425 This is the last one right here for me. 75 00:05:00,676 --> 00:05:01,677 Oh. 76 00:05:14,899 --> 00:05:17,139 - Will you get the hell out the way? - Come on. 77 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:20,945 Nope. 78 00:05:22,364 --> 00:05:24,134 - That's in. That's in. - No! 79 00:05:24,158 --> 00:05:25,826 Nope. No! 80 00:05:27,369 --> 00:05:29,538 - Get our money. - No way. 81 00:05:30,039 --> 00:05:31,540 All right, all right. 82 00:05:31,624 --> 00:05:34,335 Michael was competitive at everything, 83 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:38,172 whether it was on the golf course or playing cards, whatever it was. 84 00:05:38,255 --> 00:05:41,425 I mean, his life was just one big competition. 85 00:05:42,426 --> 00:05:46,639 Scottie, Michael, Ron Harper. 86 00:05:46,722 --> 00:05:51,310 These guys would play cards in the back of the plane for major money. 87 00:05:52,019 --> 00:05:53,619 We're talking about thousands of dollars. 88 00:05:53,646 --> 00:05:56,023 This is my way of giving some of my money back. 89 00:05:57,775 --> 00:06:02,238 And me, John paxson, b.J. Armstrong, 90 00:06:02,321 --> 00:06:06,242 we would play Blackjack in the front of the plane for a dollar a hand. 91 00:06:06,325 --> 00:06:08,994 He knows that we would never play with him in the back, 92 00:06:09,078 --> 00:06:10,305 'cause it's just too much money. 93 00:06:10,329 --> 00:06:12,974 But he would come up to the front and he's like, "what are you guys doing? 94 00:06:12,998 --> 00:06:14,250 You mind if I play?" 95 00:06:14,792 --> 00:06:17,169 I remember John paxson looking at him and going, 96 00:06:17,253 --> 00:06:20,089 "why in the hell do you want to play with us? 97 00:06:20,172 --> 00:06:22,007 We're playing for a dollar a hand." 98 00:06:22,967 --> 00:06:24,361 I remember he looked at him and goes, 99 00:06:24,385 --> 00:06:27,680 "because I want to say I got your money in my pocket." 100 00:06:31,308 --> 00:06:32,476 - One toss? - Yeah. 101 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,727 - In four tries? - Yeah. 102 00:06:33,811 --> 00:06:34,812 - Yeah, I take it. - Okay. 103 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:38,148 - How much? $20? - Yeah. 104 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:44,215 - You can beat that. - Four tries. Come on back here. 105 00:06:52,121 --> 00:06:53,956 Hey, C.T. 106 00:06:55,958 --> 00:06:58,252 Man, your stuff rolls. 107 00:06:58,335 --> 00:07:00,254 See how his just roll up there? 108 00:07:03,507 --> 00:07:04,550 I got good at this. 109 00:07:04,633 --> 00:07:06,233 Y'all get the hell out of here. 110 00:07:08,262 --> 00:07:10,097 Security! 111 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:12,349 Come get security out of here! 112 00:07:12,433 --> 00:07:13,601 Arrest you. 113 00:07:18,939 --> 00:07:21,609 Hey, Mike. Hey, scottie. 114 00:07:22,318 --> 00:07:24,820 - Hey, my brother. - You guys know the money... 115 00:07:31,201 --> 00:07:32,870 - Oh, the money man. - The money man. 116 00:07:38,626 --> 00:07:41,503 Welcome to another edition of bulls basketball 117 00:07:41,587 --> 00:07:44,381 7'he bulls remain just one game away 118 00:07:44,465 --> 00:07:48,135 from securing home-floor advantage in the eastern conference playoffs. 119 00:07:48,218 --> 00:07:50,429 They can do it with a win ton/ght. 120 00:07:51,096 --> 00:07:52,782 P/ppen gets a screen from I/I/ennington. 121 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,308 Picked up on a switch by scha yes. 122 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:56,560 P/ppen goes backdoor, Jordan at the baseline. 123 00:07:57,186 --> 00:08:01,023 Boy, ll/lichae/ versus Orlando is a mismatch so far ton/ght. 124 00:08:01,482 --> 00:08:03,942 Jordan ahead to p/ppen. And the jam! 125 00:08:04,568 --> 00:08:08,947 Bo outlaw back quickly. Kerr tees up a three. Ring it up! 126 00:08:09,615 --> 00:08:12,451 Thirty-se ven for Jordan. I think that's the dagger. 127 00:08:12,534 --> 00:08:15,037 And this one is history 128 00:08:15,621 --> 00:08:21,043 Chicago Bulls, with an 87-78 victory over the Orlando magic, 129 00:08:21,126 --> 00:08:23,712 win their 60th game of the season. 130 00:08:38,352 --> 00:08:39,770 Sixty wins. 131 00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:47,403 After a hard day... 132 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:50,906 I would take grape gatorade, but... 133 00:08:52,533 --> 00:08:53,534 I don't think so. 134 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:12,636 Hey, if they go back ten years ago, 135 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,055 you'd see half the brothers drinking a case... 136 00:09:15,139 --> 00:09:17,057 - Hey. - At halftime. 137 00:09:17,141 --> 00:09:19,977 When I first joined the team, man, they was drinking beers at half 138 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:21,061 and smoking a cigarette. 139 00:09:21,145 --> 00:09:22,813 And you know what? 140 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:26,400 Shit, they were getting the cigarettes from the coaches. 141 00:09:36,744 --> 00:09:39,079 - Yeah, I'm going out the other way. - All right. 142 00:09:40,330 --> 00:09:41,749 How you doing? 143 00:10:03,395 --> 00:10:08,233 Ladies and gentlemen, your world champion Chicago Bulls! 144 00:10:09,359 --> 00:10:10,736 Once again I want to say thanks. 145 00:10:10,819 --> 00:10:13,197 It's been eight years, going into my ninth year, 146 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,950 and we got two championships, and hopefully we got a lot left. 147 00:10:17,034 --> 00:10:20,037 And hopefully we can bring more and more championships to Chicago. Thanks. 148 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:29,046 You don't have to be a sports fan 149 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,757 to know that this man is beyond human. 150 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,845 At age 30, Jordan has led the Chicago Bulls to NBA championsh/ps, 151 00:10:36,929 --> 00:10:39,348 the dream team to an olympic gold medal, 152 00:10:39,431 --> 00:10:44,269 and most importantly, he's given america and the world a sorely needed hero. 153 00:10:44,895 --> 00:10:47,272 A Jordan s/ghting sparks a frenzy, 154 00:10:47,356 --> 00:10:49,733 his touch, a burst of tears, 155 00:10:49,817 --> 00:10:53,862 and being /I/like means being the most popular human on the planet. 156 00:10:53,946 --> 00:10:58,575 Michael Jordan had become such a huge cultural figure 157 00:10:58,659 --> 00:11:00,160 in the early '90s. 158 00:11:00,828 --> 00:11:03,497 He was so widely celebrated. 159 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:06,708 Inevitably, there's going to be someone 160 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:09,461 who's going to start trying to find some dirt. 161 00:11:11,129 --> 00:11:13,757 I guess one of the things that started the problems 162 00:11:13,841 --> 00:11:17,010 was Sam Smith's book Jordan rules. 163 00:11:18,554 --> 00:11:20,264 I'd been an investigative reporter 164 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:22,307 when I started my journalism career. 165 00:11:22,391 --> 00:11:24,726 I wasn't, you know, a typical sports reporter coming in. 166 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:27,563 I was sort of interested in what happened behind the scenes. 167 00:11:27,646 --> 00:11:29,565 Every time I looked up, you've been on TV. 168 00:11:29,648 --> 00:11:31,358 You must be... 169 00:11:31,441 --> 00:11:34,027 Because everybody always said, you know, "pull the curtain back." 170 00:11:34,653 --> 00:11:36,530 What really goes on in the locker room? 171 00:11:37,239 --> 00:11:38,842 Obviously when you do books like that, 172 00:11:38,866 --> 00:11:40,367 you got to have controversial things. 173 00:11:40,450 --> 00:11:42,911 You got to have things that are, you know... 174 00:11:42,995 --> 00:11:45,455 People would not suspect or know. 175 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:49,209 The sun times reports the book details conflicts within the team. 176 00:11:50,294 --> 00:11:52,588 The book outlines alleged turmoil on the club 177 00:11:52,671 --> 00:11:54,339 during its run for the title last season. 178 00:11:54,423 --> 00:11:57,968 In fact, it alleges Jordan was kind of a tough guy with some of his teammates. 179 00:11:58,051 --> 00:12:00,470 Everybody got tired of seeing the McDonald's and the cokes 180 00:12:00,554 --> 00:12:01,763 and all the other stuff. 181 00:12:01,847 --> 00:12:06,018 They really wanted to see something other than something positive. 182 00:12:06,101 --> 00:12:09,605 I was shocked when it exploded like it did. 183 00:12:10,939 --> 00:12:13,567 But the book was popular because it made it public 184 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:15,861 that Michael Jordan is not perfect. 185 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:17,195 Not everybody loves him. 186 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:19,364 He wasn't particularly beloved by his teammates. 187 00:12:19,865 --> 00:12:22,826 Michael actually told teammates not to pass the ball 188 00:12:22,910 --> 00:12:24,661 to a certain player during crunch time. 189 00:12:24,745 --> 00:12:27,140 Threatening the other guys, saying that if they did it, 190 00:12:27,164 --> 00:12:29,666 they would never get the ball from him again. 191 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:32,252 Jordan also, allegedly, punched I/I/I/I perdue 192 00:12:32,336 --> 00:12:33,962 during a practice session. 193 00:12:34,046 --> 00:12:36,423 Everybody loved Michael around the world. 194 00:12:37,549 --> 00:12:40,218 But after Sam Smith's book, Jordan rules, 195 00:12:40,302 --> 00:12:44,222 there was a certain backlash, and some of the brightness had come off. 196 00:12:47,184 --> 00:12:50,145 People saw a side that we didn't see before. 197 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:53,899 Concerning team gil/I Jerry krause, Jordan says, 198 00:12:53,982 --> 00:12:57,611 "this thing isn't over. I'm going to get that guy fired." 199 00:12:57,694 --> 00:12:59,780 Jerry invited me to come to his room, 200 00:12:59,863 --> 00:13:05,160 and he had earmarked about 25 different quotations in the book. 201 00:13:05,786 --> 00:13:08,497 And he wanted me to sit and listen to them while he read them. 202 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:12,960 And that started with, like, you know, "who do you think could do this? 203 00:13:13,043 --> 00:13:14,127 Were you part of this?" 204 00:13:14,211 --> 00:13:17,547 While the earlier reports ha ve brought a flurry of denials, 205 00:13:17,631 --> 00:13:19,967 players giving out sensitive information to the press 206 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:23,470 is one sure-fire way to cause a division within the team. 207 00:13:23,553 --> 00:13:25,013 I didn't contribute to that. 208 00:13:25,097 --> 00:13:26,098 That was Horace. 209 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:30,310 He was telling everything that was happening within the group. 210 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:34,648 You know, as we started winning championships, 211 00:13:35,357 --> 00:13:37,067 and everybody talked about Michael, 212 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:38,819 and everybody talked about everybody else, 213 00:13:39,653 --> 00:13:43,490 I mean, that really pissed off Horace. 214 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:48,328 He felt slighted. He was in Michael's shadow. 215 00:13:49,621 --> 00:13:54,501 No. Not one thing have I ever divulged to Sam Smith 216 00:13:54,584 --> 00:13:58,422 about my relationship with my former teammates. 217 00:13:59,214 --> 00:14:02,759 A lot of people, because Sam and I have a great relationship, 218 00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:07,097 used me as a scapegoat, and so be it. 219 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:08,890 It couldn't have just been Horace. 220 00:14:08,974 --> 00:14:11,268 Had to come from a number of different places. 221 00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:13,979 You know, it could've been the coaches. 222 00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:15,605 It could've been the owners. 223 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:17,357 It could've been management. 224 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:21,611 We have a star for five or six years, and then pretty soon 225 00:14:21,695 --> 00:14:25,240 people start chipping away at the pedestal of that star or that hero, 226 00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:26,742 and try to knock him off the block. 227 00:14:27,576 --> 00:14:30,704 You know, if I'm... if I'm gonna be knocked off this pedestal, 228 00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:33,540 I'm gonna make sure I do something, I do something to be knocked off. 229 00:14:33,623 --> 00:14:36,710 I'm not gonna let someone else knock me off for no apparent reason 230 00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:38,587 or comments that I didn't say. 231 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:41,441 While some of Michael Jordan's teammates 232 00:14:41,465 --> 00:14:43,508 view the book as a bunch of bull, 233 00:14:43,592 --> 00:14:49,097 Smith says it may have a positive effect down the road on the world champions. 234 00:14:49,181 --> 00:14:51,683 I think Phil will use this book to an extent to say, 235 00:14:51,767 --> 00:14:55,062 "here, this is out there. They're trying to divide us apart," 236 00:14:55,145 --> 00:14:57,564 and I think in a lot of ways, it'll bring this team together. 237 00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:00,650 I was under siege when the book came out. 238 00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:03,361 Everyone turned on me, in fact, to the point where I was getting 239 00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:06,406 a lot of threats and the newspaper had me stay home for a week. 240 00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:07,908 Told me not to come. 241 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:12,788 The Jordan rules took a big toll on him off the court. 242 00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:18,085 But on the court, he was still the most dominant figure in the game 243 00:15:18,168 --> 00:15:19,753 on the most dominant team. 244 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:30,263 And Horace with the slam! 245 00:15:30,347 --> 00:15:32,599 Jordan, the intercept. What a play. 246 00:15:32,682 --> 00:15:33,975 They're just tearing them apart! 247 00:15:34,059 --> 00:15:36,812 Fourteen. Jordan past Petro Vic. 248 00:15:36,895 --> 00:15:38,438 Wo w! 249 00:15:40,065 --> 00:15:42,359 Jโ€œ hey, hojโ€œ 250 00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:45,338 jโ€œ you drew a picture of m y mornin' but you couldn't make my day, he y/ jโ€œ 251 00:15:45,362 --> 00:15:46,802 Michael blocked him! 252 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,865 Denied by Horace Grant 253 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:51,701 three-on-two. 7'o Jordan. And a foul. 254 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:53,829 Oh, he scored yes! 255 00:15:53,912 --> 00:15:56,206 Jโ€œ this is hip hop for today I give props to hip hop jโ€œ 256 00:15:56,289 --> 00:15:57,874 jโ€œ so h/p-hop hooray, hey.. Jโ€œ 257 00:15:57,958 --> 00:16:00,961 Michael in control, feeds Horace. 258 00:16:01,586 --> 00:16:04,131 Michael on the line. There it is. 259 00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:11,721 Don't foul him here. From mid-court. 260 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:13,974 Jordan, a 50-footer. 261 00:16:14,057 --> 00:16:15,851 /I/lichael Jordan! 262 00:16:18,145 --> 00:16:23,400 A lot of the people in that era that you would consider Michael's peers 263 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:24,651 had won two in a row. 264 00:16:25,277 --> 00:16:26,820 Isiah won two straight. 265 00:16:26,903 --> 00:16:28,572 Magic had won two straight. 266 00:16:28,655 --> 00:16:31,158 But none of them won three in a row. 267 00:16:31,241 --> 00:16:34,369 A third championship was the separator. 268 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,496 You win three, you're on mount rushmore. 269 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:40,333 So for that team, it was all about winning a third straight. 270 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:49,426 Without question, it was this incredibly tough, motivated 271 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:51,511 and well-coached Knicks team. 272 00:16:54,139 --> 00:16:57,517 In the early '90s, the Knicks replaced the bad boy pistons 273 00:16:57,601 --> 00:16:59,895 as the team that chicagoans hated the most. 274 00:16:59,978 --> 00:17:03,231 It was very intense 'cause I know how bad they wanted to beat us. 275 00:17:05,442 --> 00:17:07,235 Both clubs going at each other. 276 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:10,447 Michael Jordan and xa vier ll/chanie/ ha ving words. 277 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:15,452 Double technica/s were called on ll/chanie/ and Jordan. 278 00:17:16,494 --> 00:17:18,121 They were on the come up. 279 00:17:18,205 --> 00:17:23,335 They were trying to be the next Chicago Bulls, 280 00:17:23,418 --> 00:17:26,421 as we were to the Detroit pistons. 281 00:17:27,756 --> 00:17:30,508 Mentally, they were a hardworking team, 282 00:17:30,592 --> 00:17:35,555 but I firmly believe that when we were playing at our best, 283 00:17:35,639 --> 00:17:38,016 and they're playing at their best, we're a much better team. 284 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:43,396 Patrick ewing was the biggest focus for us offensively. 285 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,981 We hated each other. 286 00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:48,151 It was extremely physical. 287 00:17:49,778 --> 00:17:52,614 It wasn't really a foul until you drew blood. 288 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:56,826 When I was coaching the Knicks, I told the team, 289 00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:58,203 "you can't let him dunk on you." 290 00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:01,081 Hello! 291 00:18:04,251 --> 00:18:05,752 You got to knock him down. 292 00:18:05,835 --> 00:18:09,256 If we don't meet him at the rim, he's going to embarrass you. 293 00:18:09,339 --> 00:18:12,008 No, but he followed up. Jordan with the recovery 294 00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:14,177 and Jordan, and the foul! 295 00:18:16,763 --> 00:18:20,517 The only way we could beat this guy, we had to hit him, 296 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,186 let him know that you just can't fly to the rim. 297 00:18:29,067 --> 00:18:32,404 The battle lines were drawn between them, and then, of course, 298 00:18:32,487 --> 00:18:35,991 the 1993 playoffs, they're playing the Knicks in the conference finals. 299 00:18:38,535 --> 00:18:40,620 It has come down to this game 7 300 00:18:40,704 --> 00:18:45,083 of the eagerly anticipated best-of-se ven eastern conference final. 301 00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:47,627 Patrick ewing and his New York k nicks 302 00:18:47,711 --> 00:18:50,380 facing Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. 303 00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:55,468 We got tested in that playoffs by the Knicks. 304 00:18:57,846 --> 00:19:02,100 The Knicks had that same defense that we just had to overcome versus Detroit. 305 00:19:02,684 --> 00:19:03,935 They were going to be physical. 306 00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:06,688 They were going to come up body to body all the time. 307 00:19:06,771 --> 00:19:09,190 Things beginning to get a bit rough. 308 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:10,692 That was a tremendous battle. 309 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:22,495 The basket counts and the foul! 310 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:30,170 So the k nicks defeat the bulls in game 7 of this best-of-seven. 311 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,174 Jordan knows that all eyes are on him ton/ght 312 00:19:34,257 --> 00:19:36,551 as the bulls go for the needed split in New York 313 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:37,969 in the eastern conference finals. 314 00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:40,638 After shooting three for 73 in the second half Sunday, 315 00:19:40,722 --> 00:19:42,807 Jordan needs to fight it up in game 2. 316 00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:48,188 And Jordan is... He is walloped b y anthon y/ 317 00:19:48,271 --> 00:19:50,774 oh, the bulls are very upset. 318 00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:52,567 The second game in the series, 319 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:55,528 they were stepping things up and really physical. 320 00:19:55,612 --> 00:19:57,655 Ewing! 321 00:19:58,281 --> 00:20:00,617 Oh, look out! Cartwr/ght submarined 322 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,870 starks. Yes! 323 00:20:04,329 --> 00:20:09,334 What a move by starks who was able to sky for the basket. 324 00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:17,092 In sports, the Chicago bulls are down two games to none 325 00:20:17,175 --> 00:20:19,260 in their playoff series with the New York k nicks. 326 00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:21,554 Some are suggesting that superstar Michael Jordan 327 00:20:21,638 --> 00:20:23,681 may ha ve dropped the ball. 328 00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:26,410 In the last quarter against the New York k nicks Tuesday n/ght, 329 00:20:26,434 --> 00:20:28,371 - /I/lichael Jordan looked tired -for three. 330 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:30,247 Was he worn down by the k nicks' defense 331 00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:31,981 in a grueling, physical game, 332 00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:36,069 or was he worn down by a visit to this Atlantic city hotel 333 00:20:36,152 --> 00:20:37,695 on the Eve of the game? 334 00:20:37,779 --> 00:20:41,825 The New York times said today Jordan was seen in the hotel's casino 335 00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:43,910 as late as 2.30 in the morning. 336 00:20:44,494 --> 00:20:47,122 My father said, "let's get away from New York City. 337 00:20:47,205 --> 00:20:50,667 Let's you and I go to Atlantic city," and we got a limo. 338 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:53,586 We went and gambled for a couple hours. We came back. 339 00:20:54,629 --> 00:20:56,965 Everybody went totally ballistic. 340 00:20:57,048 --> 00:20:58,591 "Hey, he was in a casino last night." 341 00:20:58,675 --> 00:21:01,803 It wasn't late. We got home about 12:30, 1:00. 342 00:21:01,886 --> 00:21:05,181 The reason that I was there was I wanted to get away from the city of New York, 343 00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:09,185 forget about all the losing, you know, the game situation, 344 00:21:09,269 --> 00:21:11,580 whatever, just to get my mind away from the game of basketball. 345 00:21:11,604 --> 00:21:14,774 I couldn't go play golf, so I rode up there with my family and my friends. 346 00:21:14,858 --> 00:21:17,318 Jordan's hours tr/ggered harsh headlines 347 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:19,404 and dominated the sports talk shows. 348 00:21:19,487 --> 00:21:23,491 What it shows me is a lack of commitment to what is the goal right now, 349 00:21:23,575 --> 00:21:25,201 and that is to win a third championship. 350 00:21:25,285 --> 00:21:27,704 Jordan had violated no team rules, 351 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:30,290 no league rules, no state laws. 352 00:21:30,373 --> 00:21:33,835 All he violated were people's expectations. 353 00:21:35,253 --> 00:21:37,297 I addressed the Atlantic city thing, 354 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,592 and he was like, "going down to Atlantic city in the afternoon 355 00:21:40,675 --> 00:21:42,010 and getting back at midnight, 356 00:21:42,093 --> 00:21:44,512 that's not going to affect my basketball. 357 00:21:44,596 --> 00:21:47,724 It's going to take my mind away from this pressure 358 00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:49,809 that we have building up in the playoffs." 359 00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:55,273 Okay. The backstory is this. 360 00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:58,401 So the bulls win in '91. They win the championship. 361 00:21:59,027 --> 00:22:01,529 Well, you go to the white house when you win the championship. 362 00:22:01,613 --> 00:22:03,198 Ready. Get set. Go! 363 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:05,116 Except Jordan didn't show. 364 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:08,578 He said, "oh, time with family. Got to be..." 365 00:22:08,661 --> 00:22:10,705 No, he was out gambling with slim bouler. 366 00:22:14,918 --> 00:22:16,961 Slim bouler was a golf hustler, 367 00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:21,382 and back in December of 1991, 368 00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:25,762 he was brought up on drug and money laundering charges, 369 00:22:26,554 --> 00:22:31,726 and federal agents found a check made out from Michael Jordan 370 00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:34,854 to slim bouler for $57,000. 371 00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:37,732 Jordan initially said, "ah, it was just a loan that I made him." 372 00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,944 But Michael was a witness 373 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:44,405 in this case involving slim bouler. 374 00:22:44,489 --> 00:22:48,409 And Michael admitted that he was repaying a gambling debt. 375 00:22:48,493 --> 00:22:51,204 โ€What was the money for?โ€ asked bouler's attorney 376 00:22:51,287 --> 00:22:55,333 answer: โ€/t was what / lost gambling. It was never a loan. 377 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:59,003 Isaid it was a loan strictly to save the embarrassment and pain. โ€ 378 00:22:59,837 --> 00:23:03,132 So when Michael spends all night gambling in Atlantic city, 379 00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:04,384 after they lost game 1, 380 00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:08,513 it became a very public issue in terms of, 381 00:23:08,596 --> 00:23:12,809 is this signs of some kind of a problem with him? 382 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:16,479 And then you add to that the esquinas book, 383 00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:21,401 which came out in the midst of that Atlantic city fiasco. 384 00:23:21,484 --> 00:23:25,238 In a book titled ll/lichae/ & ll/le: Our gambling addiction, 385 00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:29,409 Richard esquinas, a one-time general manager of the San Diego sports arena, 386 00:23:29,492 --> 00:23:34,497 makes the claim that Michael Jordan owed him more than $1.2 million, 387 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:37,041 a result of gambling on their golf matches. 388 00:23:37,125 --> 00:23:40,712 Yeah, Richard esquinas, we met from a third party. 389 00:23:40,795 --> 00:23:43,798 You know, I'm actually playing golf with people all the time now, 390 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:45,508 and if they want to gamble, we gamble. 391 00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:47,427 The character of those individuals, 392 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:51,264 I find out later what kind of people I was playing with. 393 00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:55,184 I learned that lesson, but the act of gambling, 394 00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:56,519 I didn't do anything wrong. 395 00:23:56,603 --> 00:24:00,732 Right away it went right to the most deepest, 396 00:24:00,815 --> 00:24:03,651 darkest kind of side of it, that is he throwing games? 397 00:24:03,735 --> 00:24:05,737 Has it gone beyond golf? 398 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:07,864 It never has. It never has. 399 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:10,783 Michael and I were competitive and gambling on the golf course. 400 00:24:10,867 --> 00:24:13,828 We played cards. I was in many of the card games, 401 00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:15,997 but never anything else. 402 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,332 I never bet on games. 403 00:24:17,415 --> 00:24:20,168 I only bet on myself, you know, and that was golf. 404 00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:23,504 Do I like to play Blackjack? Yeah, I like playing Blackjack. 405 00:24:23,588 --> 00:24:24,797 There's no laws with that. 406 00:24:25,381 --> 00:24:28,176 And the league did call me in. They asked questions about it, 407 00:24:28,259 --> 00:24:30,178 and I told them exactly what was happening. 408 00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:36,017 Michael was betting on his golf game, 409 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:40,521 larger numbers than you or I might bet if we played golf together, 410 00:24:40,605 --> 00:24:44,484 but we... you know, given Michael's earnings and the like, 411 00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:49,989 we just never... it never reached epic crisis levels in my view. 412 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:58,581 I understand that people would see and hear about amounts of money like that 413 00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:00,291 and go, "wow, that's a lot of money." 414 00:25:00,375 --> 00:25:03,836 What I used to always say to people is that, for Michael Jordan, 415 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,424 $10,000 is like you gambling $10. He's got it. 416 00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:11,052 He's good for it, you know? You don't have to worry about it. 417 00:25:11,135 --> 00:25:15,723 The thought has occurred that you aren't really gambling with money. 418 00:25:15,807 --> 00:25:18,184 You're gambling with your reputation, 419 00:25:18,893 --> 00:25:20,853 gambling with your good name. 420 00:25:20,937 --> 00:25:23,940 What would they consider my good name? 421 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:28,569 The purest of all pure, the person that doesn't make mistakes? 422 00:25:28,653 --> 00:25:33,449 It wasn't all part of this carefully cultivated image that he had had 423 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,285 of being the best basketball player in the world 424 00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:38,579 that everyone wanted to be like. 425 00:25:38,996 --> 00:25:41,124 Do you think you have a gambling problem at all? 426 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:43,876 No, because I can stop gambling. 427 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,172 I have a competition problem, a competitive problem. 428 00:25:48,881 --> 00:25:50,925 It didn't affect his endorsements. 429 00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:52,844 It didn't affect him monetarily. 430 00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:55,638 It didn't really affect his popularity, 431 00:25:55,722 --> 00:25:58,182 but the damage was to his reputation... 432 00:25:59,392 --> 00:26:05,064 And the price to pay was how tedious this all became for Michael 433 00:26:05,148 --> 00:26:07,775 to have to answer these questions. 434 00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:14,866 Were you playing $1,000-a-hole golf down there? 435 00:26:14,949 --> 00:26:17,785 - Is that was what was going on? - Is this an addiction? 436 00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:20,204 When you're answering these questions over and over again 437 00:26:20,288 --> 00:26:22,582 and feeling you have to defend yourself, 438 00:26:22,665 --> 00:26:23,916 it's exhausting. 439 00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:27,920 Guys, let's start up. 440 00:26:28,463 --> 00:26:34,010 He was really starting to grate against the media onslaught. 441 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:37,555 Michael becomes irate and refuses to talk to the media. 442 00:26:38,431 --> 00:26:40,933 The curtain of silence started to come down. 443 00:26:41,726 --> 00:26:43,227 He wanted no part of it. 444 00:26:43,311 --> 00:26:46,898 Let someone like his dad have to answer these questions for him. 445 00:26:47,398 --> 00:26:49,585 I stopped talking. My father said, "let me handle this." 446 00:26:49,609 --> 00:26:52,278 I said, "dad, you don't have to." He said, "nah." He wanted to. 447 00:26:52,361 --> 00:26:55,698 He has given the best of him. 448 00:26:55,782 --> 00:27:00,745 He has sacrificed to try to satisfy everybody, 449 00:27:00,828 --> 00:27:04,457 and after doing all of that, people still find a way of knocking him, 450 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:07,293 and he's saying, "damn, how much is enough?" 451 00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:13,883 Around that time, I remember magic Johnson saying, 452 00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:18,346 "you guys are going to drive him out of this game if you keep this up 453 00:27:18,429 --> 00:27:21,641 because he's tired of it, he's tired of you guys picking on him." 454 00:27:27,021 --> 00:27:29,273 People build you up to tear you down. 455 00:27:29,941 --> 00:27:31,859 And it happens in sports all the time. 456 00:27:31,943 --> 00:27:34,737 If a team wins too much, you want them to lose. 457 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:42,745 The public has a appetite for these kind of rise-and-fall narratives. 458 00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:49,752 Let's go, baby! 459 00:27:49,836 --> 00:27:52,755 I think he was disgusted with what happened, 460 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,049 and Michael had to respond. 461 00:27:57,552 --> 00:27:59,178 And respond he did. 462 00:28:01,305 --> 00:28:03,432 Here is Jordan with a pull-a way 463 00:28:05,852 --> 00:28:08,145 Jordan off the hesitation dribble. 464 00:28:08,229 --> 00:28:09,605 Look out. 465 00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:13,276 Starks went barreling into p/ppen, and starks in the face of p/ppen, 466 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,861 who just looks to walk away 467 00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:16,696 and look out. They're pushing and shoving. 468 00:28:16,779 --> 00:28:18,698 And they continue on! 469 00:28:18,781 --> 00:28:20,533 Jordan wanted to go at him! 470 00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:24,161 Jโ€œ something ain't right jโ€œ 471 00:28:24,704 --> 00:28:27,456 The team rallying in support of Michael Jordan, 472 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:31,502 who was so upset with the criticism he received for his journey 473 00:28:31,586 --> 00:28:33,170 down to Atlantic city. 474 00:28:33,504 --> 00:28:37,258 A convincing Chicago Bulls' victory 475 00:28:38,301 --> 00:28:41,178 Michael could make things up to motivate himself. 476 00:28:41,262 --> 00:28:43,422 He didn't have to make anything up here. This was real. 477 00:28:43,472 --> 00:28:46,225 This was the media scolding you. 478 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,145 And he says, "I'll show you.โ€œ 479 00:28:49,604 --> 00:28:50,771 and he did. 480 00:28:58,112 --> 00:28:59,739 Jordan for three. 481 00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:05,494 Standing ovation for the Chicago Bulls. 482 00:29:06,162 --> 00:29:08,998 Fifty-four points for Michael Jordan. 483 00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:20,843 Game 5, the series is tied. 484 00:29:25,514 --> 00:29:28,434 The bulls are up one with 20 seconds left, 485 00:29:28,517 --> 00:29:30,186 and there's poor Charles Smith 486 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,521 trying his best to get the ball into the basket. 487 00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:35,524 Ewing for Smith. Smith. 488 00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:37,777 Smith! Smith stopped 489 00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:40,279 Smith stopped again by p/ppen! 490 00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:42,031 What a play by scottie p/ppen! 491 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:44,075 Jordan and pippen and Horace Grant... 492 00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:47,870 Simply refusing to let the ball go in the basket. 493 00:29:47,954 --> 00:29:49,288 Wouldn't allow it. 494 00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:53,250 One of the great defensive sequences of all time. 495 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:56,504 And the bulls have defeated the k nicks! 496 00:29:59,757 --> 00:30:02,593 That's the series, and they close it out in Chicago in the next game. 497 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:15,606 And it is Chicago going on to the NBA finals. 498 00:30:16,774 --> 00:30:20,194 Chicago will attempt to three-peat, 499 00:30:20,277 --> 00:30:23,823 trying to become only the third team in NBA history 500 00:30:23,906 --> 00:30:26,325 to pull off three in a row. 501 00:30:26,409 --> 00:30:28,869 Did you feel like all that negative publicity about Michael 502 00:30:28,953 --> 00:30:31,515 going down to Atlantic city really pulled you guys together this week? 503 00:30:31,539 --> 00:30:33,457 Yeah, we take that personally. 504 00:30:33,541 --> 00:30:35,501 We're a team. We've been a team a long time, 505 00:30:35,584 --> 00:30:38,170 and when you attack one of ours, we got to bond together. 506 00:30:38,254 --> 00:30:41,257 It's the only thing we have, and I think it showed today on the floor. 507 00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:52,101 11:45. 508 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,954 - What is it? - Eleven-forty... I'm sorry. 509 00:30:53,978 --> 00:30:55,980 - Let's go, Phil! - 1:45. 510 00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:58,315 Ten minutes are over. 511 00:30:59,567 --> 00:31:00,568 Come on, man. Let's go. 512 00:31:00,651 --> 00:31:03,029 - Where you going? Let's go. - I'm with it. You hear that? 513 00:31:03,112 --> 00:31:05,114 Nah, nah, nah, nah. 514 00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:07,616 - Y'all miss out on this. - Now, that's entertainment. 515 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,327 1:45. 516 00:31:10,411 --> 00:31:11,620 Let's go! 517 00:31:19,045 --> 00:31:21,756 Nah, man, we done. We out of here. Let's go, pip, come on, man. 518 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,679 - Just till Phil comes by. - Nah, nah. 519 00:31:23,758 --> 00:31:25,134 Come on, Mike. 520 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,975 Scottie, how you feeling? Everything all right? 521 00:31:33,059 --> 00:31:35,478 Yeah, I'm feeling good, just a little sore. 522 00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:47,073 Is there any chance Michael has got a tee time? 523 00:31:49,658 --> 00:31:51,285 Come on, get on here, bill. 524 00:31:51,368 --> 00:31:53,388 - Hey, give me 20 cents. - You must be ready to go. 525 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:54,663 Hey, give me 20 cents. 526 00:31:54,747 --> 00:31:56,540 Y'all got to pay a fare to get on this bus. 527 00:31:56,624 --> 00:31:58,042 Let's go! 528 00:31:58,125 --> 00:31:59,376 Get out the way. 529 00:32:00,628 --> 00:32:02,272 Do you know how to put it in gear? 530 00:32:02,296 --> 00:32:04,381 - Yeah, watch this. - Oh, no. 531 00:32:04,465 --> 00:32:06,193 - Step back. - Look out, you guys. 532 00:32:06,217 --> 00:32:07,676 - Let's go! - He's loose. 533 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,844 What? 534 00:32:16,644 --> 00:32:18,646 Go watch some tits and ass. 535 00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:19,729 Shit. 536 00:32:22,817 --> 00:32:24,276 Let's go, man. 537 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,195 Hey, don't leave. Hold on! 538 00:32:34,161 --> 00:32:35,161 Okay? 539 00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:37,248 You all right, though? 540 00:32:37,957 --> 00:32:39,291 Bye-bye. 541 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,294 All right, thanks. 542 00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:51,971 - Fore! - Fore! 543 00:32:52,054 --> 00:32:53,389 Fore! Fore! 544 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:54,557 Oh, yeah. 545 00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:15,953 Ah! 546 00:33:22,126 --> 00:33:23,353 - Boom! - Didn't even hesitate. 547 00:33:23,377 --> 00:33:25,838 - Bang! Hey. - Went out there and hit that shit. 548 00:33:31,343 --> 00:33:33,387 Shit. 549 00:33:35,723 --> 00:33:36,807 Okay. You're right. 550 00:33:36,891 --> 00:33:39,018 But I win $20 on that hole anyway. 551 00:33:39,101 --> 00:33:41,812 No, I win $40 on that hole. 552 00:34:35,032 --> 00:34:36,672 As Michael Jordan and the bulls 553 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:38,300 get ready to take on the suns in Phoenix, 554 00:34:38,327 --> 00:34:41,455 the y're knocking on the door of the pantheon of the greats. 555 00:34:41,538 --> 00:34:44,708 I/I/inning three stra/ght NBA titles would put Jordan and his teammates 556 00:34:44,792 --> 00:34:47,628 in the company of the great dynasties of the past. 557 00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:52,466 Hi everybody I'm Bob costas, and welcome to the NBA finals. 558 00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:56,887 The news is that Michael Jordan has broken his two-week media silence. 559 00:34:56,971 --> 00:34:59,098 About an hour and a half before the game began, 560 00:34:59,181 --> 00:35:02,559 he was willing to talk specifically to Ahmad Rashad 561 00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:06,438 Before game 1, Michael goes, "hey, man. 562 00:35:06,522 --> 00:35:08,774 Can you go get a camera? I want to do this interview. 563 00:35:08,857 --> 00:35:11,527 They've been talking about my gambling. I'm sick of all this stuff. 564 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:13,904 Let's just get it done right now." I went, "okay." 565 00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:15,990 Do you have a gambling problem? 566 00:35:16,073 --> 00:35:18,534 No. I enjoy it. It's a hobby. 567 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:20,536 If I had a problem, I'd be starving. 568 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:23,122 I'd be Hawking this watch, my championship rings. 569 00:35:23,205 --> 00:35:25,916 I would sell my house. I would do this. 570 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,043 My wife would've left me, or she'd be starving. 571 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,421 My kids would be starving. I do not have a problem. 572 00:35:30,504 --> 00:35:31,714 I enjoy gambling. 573 00:35:31,797 --> 00:35:34,258 Now, it didn't help that Michael had sunglasses on 574 00:35:34,341 --> 00:35:36,260 when he was doing the interview, 575 00:35:36,343 --> 00:35:40,514 which just... I mean, take them sunglasses off. 576 00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:44,143 The media has taken it far greater than what it is. 577 00:35:44,852 --> 00:35:46,854 Soon, whenever I walk away from this game, 578 00:35:47,396 --> 00:35:50,482 uh, I think that's the only thing that people are going to say 579 00:35:50,566 --> 00:35:52,568 was a bad thing about Michael Jordan. 580 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,737 Could soon be after this year? 581 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:55,820 Could be. 582 00:36:02,244 --> 00:36:04,204 In Phoenix, we had a great year. 583 00:36:04,288 --> 00:36:06,498 We had the best record in the league, 584 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,835 and Charles was the mvp that year. 585 00:36:11,295 --> 00:36:14,006 I felt very confident going into that series. 586 00:36:15,466 --> 00:36:17,134 We were very determined 587 00:36:17,217 --> 00:36:19,219 because if there's anybody you want to beat, 588 00:36:19,303 --> 00:36:20,888 it's Michael Jordan. 589 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:23,932 Barkley behind the back! 590 00:36:24,016 --> 00:36:26,226 Barkley from ll/lajer/e to the re verse! 591 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:27,561 Kevin Johnson. 592 00:36:28,103 --> 00:36:29,646 Dumas puts it down! 593 00:36:34,318 --> 00:36:37,196 I was a little bit upset that I didn't get the mvp that year, 594 00:36:37,279 --> 00:36:38,864 and they gave it to Charles barkley. 595 00:36:38,947 --> 00:36:41,658 But with that said, okay, fine. You can have that. 596 00:36:41,742 --> 00:36:42,910 I'm going to get this. 597 00:36:42,993 --> 00:36:46,372 Jordan with the steal, and Jordan goes all the way 598 00:36:46,455 --> 00:36:48,207 beautiful finish by Michael 599 00:36:51,418 --> 00:36:53,754 The purple heart award goes to Dan majer/e, 600 00:36:53,837 --> 00:36:56,090 who has to guard Michael Jordan. 601 00:36:58,467 --> 00:37:01,136 I knew that Jerry krause loved Dan majerle, 602 00:37:01,804 --> 00:37:05,391 and just because krause liked him was enough for me. 603 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:08,519 You think he's a great defensive player? Okay, fine. 604 00:37:08,602 --> 00:37:10,437 I'm going to show you that he's not. 605 00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:15,734 Defense! Defense! Defense! 606 00:37:16,318 --> 00:37:17,837 Jordan spins away on majerle, 607 00:37:17,861 --> 00:37:20,739 he 7! Take it all the way to the basket and drops it in! 608 00:37:20,823 --> 00:37:23,617 I put it in my mind-set that, "if I don't do this, 609 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,787 then they're gonna consider him on the same level as me." 610 00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:30,290 And that motivated me to attack. 611 00:37:31,125 --> 00:37:33,127 Jordan off the dribble. 612 00:37:34,628 --> 00:37:37,589 So the Chicago Bulls take game 7. 613 00:37:37,673 --> 00:37:39,716 7'he y led by as many as 23, 614 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,719 and they win it 700 to 92. 615 00:37:44,179 --> 00:37:47,266 Game 1 of this series could be summed up in a word: "Nerves." 616 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:49,226 The bulls showed that experience does pay. 617 00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:51,061 The suns' lack of it cost them. 618 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:56,859 We lost game 1 because we were so nervous. 619 00:37:58,652 --> 00:38:02,072 But in game 2, I played as well as I could play. 620 00:38:02,156 --> 00:38:03,866 Barkley from the outside. 621 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:06,535 Barkley barkley! 622 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:08,537 Barkley! Phoenix with... 623 00:38:09,121 --> 00:38:11,290 And Michael just outplayed me. 624 00:38:12,166 --> 00:38:13,750 Jordan. Yes! 625 00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:16,336 Jordan! And Jordan! 626 00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:17,588 Michael Jordan. 627 00:38:17,671 --> 00:38:20,841 The suns looking down a real dark road right now. 628 00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:24,636 That was probably the first time in my life 629 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,098 that I felt like there was a better basketball player in the world than me, 630 00:38:28,182 --> 00:38:29,558 to be honest with you. 631 00:38:30,184 --> 00:38:35,189 So, the final score: The bulls 777, the suns 708. 632 00:38:36,732 --> 00:38:38,984 We had won two games in Phoenix, 633 00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:42,446 and we came back to Chicago, and like, "well, let's finish this out." 634 00:38:46,783 --> 00:38:49,495 Jordan to throw for three. Yes! 635 00:38:59,171 --> 00:39:02,174 Barkley shooting for the three, and he hits it! 636 00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:03,592 It was, like... 637 00:39:05,886 --> 00:39:09,431 One of the most roller-coaster series I've ever been in. 638 00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:12,476 Game 3 went into triple overtime. 639 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,771 We head on to a third overtime. 640 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:18,774 Not to brag on myself, I was not going to let us lose. 641 00:39:23,237 --> 00:39:26,323 Chambers with a steal and barkley able to finish it offi 642 00:39:28,033 --> 00:39:29,868 barkley on the intercept! 643 00:39:29,952 --> 00:39:33,497 Charles barkley with the interception and the field goal. 644 00:39:34,081 --> 00:39:36,375 The Phoenix suns in tnp/e overtime 645 00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:42,839 have defeated the Chicago Bulls 72.9-727. 646 00:39:42,923 --> 00:39:45,509 They're finding their way back into this series. 647 00:39:46,802 --> 00:39:48,262 After Sunday night's epic, 648 00:39:48,345 --> 00:39:51,014 there's a feeling that the Phoenix suns are here as foes, 649 00:39:51,098 --> 00:39:53,600 not foils, that they made it a series again, 650 00:39:53,684 --> 00:39:56,603 and now it's the bulls' turn to respond to a challenge. 651 00:39:57,771 --> 00:39:59,147 Jordan. Yes! 652 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,610 Jordan around dumas. Yes! 653 00:40:03,694 --> 00:40:06,530 Oh, Jordan and ainge trash-talking. 654 00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:08,282 Ainge with his hands on Jordan. 655 00:40:08,365 --> 00:40:10,576 Jordan just told him, โ€get your hands off me. โ€ 656 00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:14,204 Bulls with a two-point lead 657 00:40:16,957 --> 00:40:18,875 Jordan! Yes! 658 00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:29,720 So the Chicago Bulls have taken a 3-games-to-7 lead, 659 00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:31,346 led by Michael Jordan, 660 00:40:31,972 --> 00:40:34,224 who had 55 points. 661 00:40:39,271 --> 00:40:41,273 Before game 5, 662 00:40:41,356 --> 00:40:44,192 they already started the celebrations in Chicago. 663 00:40:45,319 --> 00:40:48,030 They were boarding up the windows. 664 00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:51,908 They want you to celebrate with class and don't destroy stuff. 665 00:40:51,992 --> 00:40:55,287 And by the time you get to the game, you're steaming, to be honest with you. 666 00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:58,707 We're like, "guys, we cannot lose this game." 667 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,629 Jordan's pass broken up. 668 00:41:03,712 --> 00:41:05,881 Johnson for barkley, Armstrong back, 669 00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:09,885 and Charles barkley extends to a 27-75 lead 670 00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:11,178 Jordan... 671 00:41:12,095 --> 00:41:14,348 Stopped from behind! Dumas got a piece of it, 672 00:41:14,431 --> 00:41:15,974 and dumas will finish it ofif 673 00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,896 Michael Jordan upset. 674 00:41:21,647 --> 00:41:24,316 Lte/I you, the Phoenix suns are playing better. 675 00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:27,152 They're hotter. They're playing better than the Chicago Bulls, 676 00:41:27,235 --> 00:41:28,403 and the bulls are in trouble. 677 00:41:28,487 --> 00:41:31,448 That will do it. The Phoenix suns, 678 00:41:31,531 --> 00:41:35,160 leading most of the way, remain alive in this best of se ven, 679 00:41:35,243 --> 00:41:38,538 but this series goes back to Phoenix. 680 00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:44,836 Take that shit off the windows. 681 00:41:47,255 --> 00:41:49,257 You don't need it tonight. 682 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:52,844 We lost game 5, 683 00:41:52,928 --> 00:41:55,972 so we have to fly out to Phoenix and play this game number six. 684 00:41:57,766 --> 00:41:59,393 Michael got on the plane. 685 00:41:59,476 --> 00:42:03,313 He had a cigar, then he said he wanted to speak to the team. 686 00:42:04,314 --> 00:42:08,360 Everybody's dreading getting back on the plane and going back to Phoenix, 687 00:42:08,443 --> 00:42:10,070 so I just say, "look, man. 688 00:42:10,153 --> 00:42:13,615 I don't know about you guys. I'm only packing one suit. 689 00:42:13,699 --> 00:42:16,660 We going back to win one game. I'm not going there to play two games." 690 00:42:17,703 --> 00:42:19,623 Michael Jordan on a pull-up. Yes. 691 00:42:19,705 --> 00:42:21,123 Jordan for three. 692 00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:24,251 And Michael Jordan has tied the game. 693 00:42:24,334 --> 00:42:26,461 Jordan hits another three! 694 00:42:26,545 --> 00:42:30,048 Michael had that ability where he was not going to let them lose. 695 00:42:30,132 --> 00:42:33,218 With just under one minute remaining in this fourth quarter, 696 00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:36,304 suns lead 98 to 94. 697 00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:41,893 Frank Johnson, not the man that the suns would have wanted to take that shot, 698 00:42:41,977 --> 00:42:43,937 and Jordan was able to go the distance. 699 00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:45,772 Worst thing that can happen! 700 00:42:45,856 --> 00:42:48,442 Let them score and use up very few precious seconds. 701 00:42:48,525 --> 00:42:50,378 It's Chicago's game to win or lose. 702 00:42:50,402 --> 00:42:53,530 They put 74.7 seconds up. Suns lead by two. 703 00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:56,700 They're going to put the ball in Michael Jordan's hands. 704 00:42:56,783 --> 00:43:00,912 It's come down to this possession. The suns by two. 705 00:43:00,996 --> 00:43:02,998 And p/ppen got the snatch. 706 00:43:03,081 --> 00:43:06,126 Here's paxson for three! Yes! 707 00:43:06,209 --> 00:43:09,337 7'he bulls take a one-point lead! 708 00:43:09,421 --> 00:43:11,339 Yeah! Yeah! 709 00:43:11,423 --> 00:43:14,134 Hits the three, and this crowd is stunned! 710 00:43:14,217 --> 00:43:16,470 John paxson nails the three! 711 00:43:16,553 --> 00:43:20,348 That's the first score by anybody other than Michael Jordan 712 00:43:20,432 --> 00:43:22,142 in the entire fourth quarter! 713 00:43:22,225 --> 00:43:24,436 The ball was not supposed to come to me, 714 00:43:25,312 --> 00:43:27,314 but as a player, you're always ready. 715 00:43:29,274 --> 00:43:33,528 And for me personally, it was pretty special. 716 00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:36,060 And it's all over! 717 00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:41,953 The Chicago Bulls win three stra/ght NBA championsh/ps! 718 00:43:42,037 --> 00:43:45,457 A three-point shot by John paxson, the game-winner. 719 00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:48,376 I have no problem losing to Michael. 720 00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:51,505 Losing to Michael, there's no shame in that. 721 00:43:53,465 --> 00:43:55,592 Sports are like a gunfight... 722 00:43:57,302 --> 00:44:00,388 And we lost to the fastest gun. 723 00:44:02,808 --> 00:44:03,809 Whoo! 724 00:44:04,434 --> 00:44:05,435 - Yes, yes! - Thank you! 725 00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:06,519 Michael! 726 00:44:07,354 --> 00:44:10,106 Physically, I was getting exhausted. 727 00:44:10,941 --> 00:44:14,945 But, mentally, I was way past exhausted. 728 00:44:16,196 --> 00:44:18,073 When you try to do something repetitively, 729 00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:22,369 you lose some of the hunger and some of the edge. 730 00:44:31,086 --> 00:44:34,214 Here's the thing: I think when we won the third championship, 731 00:44:35,048 --> 00:44:40,345 being around him, there was more, like, relief than true joy. 732 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:43,348 You know, like, "it's over," you know? 733 00:44:43,431 --> 00:44:44,766 He was tired. 734 00:44:45,934 --> 00:44:49,604 You know, the aftermath, like, you kind of feel like... 735 00:44:53,066 --> 00:44:54,734 "You know, what are we going to do? 736 00:44:55,944 --> 00:44:58,321 This has been a very hard and trying time. 737 00:44:58,405 --> 00:45:00,115 This has been a tough year." 738 00:45:02,492 --> 00:45:04,369 - Do I have to do anything else? - Nope. 739 00:45:04,452 --> 00:45:06,572 - Can I just sit here for a few minutes? - Yeah. 740 00:45:08,206 --> 00:45:09,666 Yeah, man, yes. 741 00:45:09,749 --> 00:45:10,935 Just dial straight out... 742 00:45:17,549 --> 00:45:20,635 Is it joy, or is it relief, or is it a combination? 743 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,721 This has been a great year but a tough year. 744 00:45:22,804 --> 00:45:25,807 It's both. You know, it's a relief, plus it's great to win. 745 00:45:25,891 --> 00:45:27,559 I think we have gone through a lot. 746 00:45:27,642 --> 00:45:29,704 Me personally, I've gone through a lot of ups and downs, 747 00:45:29,728 --> 00:45:33,231 but to cap it off this way means a lot to me, believe me. 748 00:45:36,318 --> 00:45:37,986 Yeah! Yeah! 749 00:45:43,909 --> 00:45:45,410 My fame is, uh... 750 00:45:46,077 --> 00:45:47,954 It was good at the beginning. 751 00:45:48,038 --> 00:45:50,373 Anytime people talking about you in a positive way, yeah. 752 00:45:50,457 --> 00:45:56,254 It's great to hear those comments, but now that you're on a pedestal, 753 00:45:56,338 --> 00:45:58,506 it's not just the positive talking that you're hearing. 754 00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:00,842 You hear some points and some people taking shots at you, 755 00:46:00,926 --> 00:46:04,512 and that really changes the whole idea 756 00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:07,891 of being out there for people to see you. 757 00:46:07,974 --> 00:46:10,936 You want to get more behind closed doors so people don't know you as much, 758 00:46:11,019 --> 00:46:14,522 so I'm at that stage of my career and my life that, you know, 759 00:46:14,606 --> 00:46:18,026 I'd rather get behind closed doors than to be out there in the spotlight 760 00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:22,447 to be taking shots from everyone that really don't know you as a person. 761 00:46:25,116 --> 00:46:27,535 If I had the chance to do it all over again, 762 00:46:27,619 --> 00:46:30,205 I would never want to be considered a role model. 763 00:46:31,331 --> 00:46:33,750 It's like a game that's stacked against me. 764 00:46:33,833 --> 00:46:35,835 You know, there's no way I can win. 765 00:47:09,035 --> 00:47:12,247 I think I've been asked about a million times, 766 00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:14,541 โ€œis he going to quit or is he not going to quit?" 767 00:47:14,624 --> 00:47:16,626 I'm having fun making up stuff. 768 00:47:18,253 --> 00:47:22,215 No one wants me to walk out 769 00:47:22,298 --> 00:47:23,883 knowing that I can still play the game. 770 00:47:23,967 --> 00:47:29,597 I want to leave two years before my skills say that I can't play this game. 771 00:47:29,681 --> 00:47:30,849 Mm-hmm. 772 00:47:31,391 --> 00:47:35,895 I don't want to miss my time to go because a lot of players say that, 773 00:47:35,979 --> 00:47:38,148 "I'm going to play until I can't play ever again." 774 00:47:38,231 --> 00:47:40,525 - Right. - I think Patrick said that one time, 775 00:47:40,608 --> 00:47:42,610 that they'd have to carry him off the court. 776 00:47:43,778 --> 00:47:46,072 You know, I said... 777 00:47:46,156 --> 00:47:49,325 "Nobody's going to carry me off the court. I want to walk off the court." 778 00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:55,457 And then a lot of people say, "well, you're going to miss it." 779 00:47:56,708 --> 00:47:59,127 I'm not sure if I'm going to miss it. 780 00:48:00,420 --> 00:48:02,422 I don't think I'm going to miss it. 781 00:48:03,048 --> 00:48:05,717 There is, says Michael, a zen calm around the bulls 782 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,719 as they start their postseason ton/ght, 783 00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:10,930 a calm that blocks out the speculation about Jordan's retirement, 784 00:48:11,014 --> 00:48:13,808 Phil Jackson's departure, all the front-office politics. 785 00:48:13,892 --> 00:48:17,187 If indeed, this is the fabled last dance, then pay attention 786 00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:20,732 because it does begin ton/ght for a team that has a rested scottie p/ppen, 787 00:48:20,815 --> 00:48:23,234 the best player in the world, the top eastern seed, 788 00:48:23,318 --> 00:48:26,071 and five games to tune it up against the New Jersey nets. 60935

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