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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,812 --> 00:00:21,522 Pohj" 2 00:00:22,565 --> 00:00:24,442 j“ yea/7 j“ 3 00:00:33,868 --> 00:00:36,662 I do remember being in Vegas with him. 4 00:00:36,746 --> 00:00:40,541 It was on. The party was starting right away. 5 00:00:40,625 --> 00:00:42,668 Mixing it up. 6 00:00:42,752 --> 00:00:44,629 Bring on the shookers! 7 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:46,432 That's whores and sluts if you're recording. 8 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:49,217 - Definitely recording. - Wow! 9 00:00:53,262 --> 00:00:56,140 One thing about Dennis, he had to escape. 10 00:00:56,224 --> 00:00:58,809 He liked to go out. He liked to go to clubs. 11 00:00:59,685 --> 00:01:01,395 We'd go to his favorite restaurant. 12 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:04,065 Then we'd go to a nightclub. Then we'd go to after hours. 13 00:01:04,148 --> 00:01:05,148 It didn't stop. 14 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:14,617 It was definitely an occupational hazard to be Dennis' girlfriend. 15 00:01:15,826 --> 00:01:16,911 He was wild. 16 00:01:20,706 --> 00:01:23,042 J“ /z"s kamikaze time j“ 17 00:01:23,125 --> 00:01:25,378 j“ it's time to blow your mind j“ 18 00:01:25,461 --> 00:01:27,380 j“ it's kamikaze time j“ 19 00:01:27,463 --> 00:01:29,173 suck it down, motherfucker! 20 00:01:31,884 --> 00:01:35,471 But, to be honest, I didn't realize what the team's schedule was. 21 00:01:35,554 --> 00:01:38,057 I didn't know he took a detour. 22 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:46,607 Mm-mm. 23 00:01:47,483 --> 00:01:51,028 He didn't come back on time. We had to go get his ass out of bed. 24 00:01:51,112 --> 00:01:55,324 And I'm not gonna say what's in his bed and where he was and blah, blah, blah. 25 00:01:55,908 --> 00:01:58,828 There's a knock on the door. It's Michael Jordan. 26 00:01:58,911 --> 00:02:00,621 And I hid. 27 00:02:00,705 --> 00:02:04,875 I didn't want him to see me like that, so I, like... 28 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:07,795 I'm just, like, hiding behind the couch with covers over me. 29 00:02:07,878 --> 00:02:10,631 "Come on. We got to get to practice." 30 00:02:11,048 --> 00:02:13,801 Dennis came back and joined the team. 31 00:02:14,343 --> 00:02:16,345 And that's the way it went that year. 32 00:02:19,557 --> 00:02:20,877 I wanted to tell you... 33 00:02:26,981 --> 00:02:28,065 Not just the mind. 34 00:02:34,405 --> 00:02:38,659 Michael and scottie accepted me for who I am and said, "you know what? 35 00:02:38,743 --> 00:02:42,079 He does what he does, but he cares a lot." 36 00:02:43,331 --> 00:02:45,333 I'll go party hard, but I'll work hard. 37 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,919 I think that we got along so well because we want to win. 38 00:02:49,003 --> 00:02:50,203 We want to win a championship. 39 00:03:00,890 --> 00:03:02,308 A spectacular move! 40 00:03:02,391 --> 00:03:03,893 And the game's over! 41 00:03:03,976 --> 00:03:06,645 Chicago stadium is going wild. 42 00:03:08,272 --> 00:03:10,250 First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. 43 00:03:10,274 --> 00:03:11,609 /t is time for me to move on. 44 00:03:12,068 --> 00:03:14,628 This will be Phil's last year as the coach of the bulls. 45 00:03:16,822 --> 00:03:18,383 Are the expectations way too h/gh 7 46 00:03:18,407 --> 00:03:19,283 Where do we go from here? 47 00:03:19,367 --> 00:03:22,578 The only question: How long can it last? 48 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:09,083 After his vacation, Dennis comes back to practice. 49 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:12,378 Phil's now... his whole motive is to get Dennis back in shape. 50 00:04:13,796 --> 00:04:16,382 So, we start this drill called the Indian drill. 51 00:04:17,508 --> 00:04:19,135 Everybody starts running in a line. 52 00:04:20,511 --> 00:04:24,390 And Phil blows a whistle. Whoever's at the back, run to the front. 53 00:04:24,473 --> 00:04:26,016 Now, you can't stop. 54 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,519 Whoever's in front controls the pace. 55 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:31,105 So, I'm saying, "well, fuck, this is kind of messed up," 56 00:04:31,188 --> 00:04:35,025 because now I'm getting caught up in "Dennis-getting-in-shape drill," 57 00:04:35,109 --> 00:04:36,986 when, in essence, I hadn't taken a vacation. 58 00:04:37,069 --> 00:04:41,031 I tell everybody in that group, “look, whoever gets in the front of that row, 59 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:43,033 slow down to a fucking walk. 60 00:04:43,117 --> 00:04:46,412 We're just gonna jog and jog and jog and jog." 61 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:50,332 So, Steve kerr and jud buechler... 62 00:04:50,416 --> 00:04:53,502 Shh! They all get to the line, we just slowly, 63 00:04:53,586 --> 00:04:56,797 we just running, slowly just running, slowly just running, and then, 64 00:04:56,881 --> 00:04:59,467 Dennis takes off. Boom! Now, he blows the whistle. 65 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:03,554 Now, we cannot stop until we get back in front of Dennis. 66 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:06,056 It took us four laps to catch up to Dennis. 67 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:07,725 It was, like, in his psyche. 68 00:05:08,017 --> 00:05:09,393 He needed to get away. 69 00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:11,687 But in all honesty, Dennis was always there. 70 00:05:11,770 --> 00:05:13,522 He was always on point. 71 00:05:18,027 --> 00:05:21,780 Phil realized that I was different, man. 72 00:05:21,864 --> 00:05:26,160 Phil knew me so well, 'cause he knew I... 73 00:05:26,243 --> 00:05:28,954 So much shit I was doing. But I had to get my head right. 74 00:05:29,038 --> 00:05:31,999 But that's what's so cool about playing with that team, 75 00:05:32,082 --> 00:05:34,126 and they was all about... 76 00:05:34,210 --> 00:05:36,462 Anybody needed to do something, they was all about it. 77 00:05:36,545 --> 00:05:37,963 And Phil was cool about it. 78 00:05:38,756 --> 00:05:40,758 Dennis is always a rebel. 79 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:43,552 At some point, you know, he wants to join the group, 80 00:05:43,636 --> 00:05:45,763 but the other part of him wants to be autonomous. 81 00:05:46,514 --> 00:05:49,725 So, we appreciate the fact that he's a Maverick. 82 00:05:49,808 --> 00:05:53,062 But, yet, when it comes time for him to perform, 83 00:05:53,145 --> 00:05:55,898 he's always on the court for us, always playing hard for us. 84 00:05:57,775 --> 00:06:02,988 Dennis and I have this native American bond between us. 85 00:06:05,074 --> 00:06:09,078 He comes in one day, and Dennis and I met in the team room. 86 00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:11,247 In the team room, I have a bear-claw necklace, 87 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:14,500 a turtle shell that came from another Indian reservation, 88 00:06:15,292 --> 00:06:17,127 and various other Indian artifacts. 89 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:22,258 And so, Dennis was like, "wow." 90 00:06:22,341 --> 00:06:26,178 He said, “I have this necklace from the ponca Indians in Oklahoma. 91 00:06:26,929 --> 00:06:28,347 I'm hip to that." 92 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:33,102 And I say, "Dennis, in their tradition, and the tradition that I knew, 93 00:06:33,185 --> 00:06:36,689 you would be a heyoka, a backward-walking person. 94 00:06:36,772 --> 00:06:39,400 There were people that were different, and you're a heyoka. 95 00:06:39,483 --> 00:06:41,443 So you're this heyoka in this tribe. 96 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:45,840 He don't look at me as a basketball player. 97 00:06:45,864 --> 00:06:47,700 He look at me as a great friend. 98 00:06:48,576 --> 00:06:51,287 He realized that I probably needed him for inspiration. 99 00:06:52,997 --> 00:06:55,165 He wants to see me persevere. 100 00:06:58,085 --> 00:07:04,091 I have never met a coach who was that different and genuine 101 00:07:04,174 --> 00:07:07,386 when it came to bringing the group together. 102 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:11,724 He had this real interest in native American history, 103 00:07:11,807 --> 00:07:15,936 and he would weave that into our own culture. 104 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:21,150 I mean, he brought in zen buddhism and native American Indian philosophies. 105 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:24,153 Everything was about being focused, playing as one. 106 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:35,581 When I was in great falls as a kid growing up, 107 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:40,169 my grandparents had this boardinghouse with small little cabins. 108 00:07:41,712 --> 00:07:44,673 And native American people from the poplar Indian reservation 109 00:07:44,757 --> 00:07:46,800 used to come, and they'd have their kids. 110 00:07:47,217 --> 00:07:52,931 And, so, I started learning more and more about this native American culture. 111 00:07:53,015 --> 00:07:56,977 There was a certain negativity about playing with these kids. 112 00:07:57,478 --> 00:07:58,771 I didn't feel that at all. 113 00:07:59,647 --> 00:08:02,316 Cowboys and Indians was a game that kids played. 114 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:04,276 You know, I was always the Indian. 115 00:08:06,111 --> 00:08:08,364 My dad was a pastor. 116 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:11,033 My mother was also a minister. 117 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:15,913 And she has an extreme belief about the second coming of Christ. 118 00:08:16,622 --> 00:08:21,627 So that was something that was foremost in your mind in growing up. 119 00:08:22,211 --> 00:08:24,088 Would you be ready if Christ came 120 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:28,050 to be taken as part of that group that would be raptured? 121 00:08:30,094 --> 00:08:32,721 My goal was always in conflict. 122 00:08:32,805 --> 00:08:36,183 I would rather be playing sports than being on my knees, praying. 123 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:40,562 I played basketball from the time I was a little kid... 124 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:44,525 And eventually went to the university of north Dakota. 125 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,712 Jackson is having a whale of a n/ght. 126 00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:49,005 He's scored 28 in the first half 127 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:51,573 and has continued the onslaught here in the second half 128 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:55,494 The Knicks drafted me in the second round. 129 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:59,623 And I'd made the all-rookie team, my rookie season. 130 00:08:59,707 --> 00:09:01,587 Jackson defensively gets the bail. 131 00:09:01,625 --> 00:09:03,419 I remember seeing Phil Jackson. 132 00:09:03,502 --> 00:09:04,729 Jackson knocking it away... 133 00:09:04,753 --> 00:09:07,172 And he's always smacking guys around. 134 00:09:07,756 --> 00:09:10,759 He was like an earlier version of Dennis rodman. 135 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:15,305 I was 77 years with the Knicks. 136 00:09:15,389 --> 00:09:18,350 We had seven good years. We went to the finals three years. 137 00:09:18,434 --> 00:09:20,602 White has the bail. Stolen by jackson/ 138 00:09:20,686 --> 00:09:22,366 racing ahead of the field, no one near him/ 139 00:09:22,438 --> 00:09:23,897 he drives, lays it up... 140 00:09:23,981 --> 00:09:26,316 And we won two championshios. 141 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,694 J“ /fee/ free j“ 142 00:09:30,112 --> 00:09:32,781 j“ /can walk down the street there's no one there j“ 143 00:09:32,865 --> 00:09:34,992 j“ though the pavements are one huge crowd j“ 144 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:37,619 Phil and I wrote mavericktogether. 145 00:09:38,746 --> 00:09:41,331 And in that book, Phil talks about taking acid. 146 00:09:45,335 --> 00:09:50,424 And thinking he was a lion, roaring up and down the beach in la. 147 00:09:50,507 --> 00:09:56,221 Phil was like a hippie and different from the NBA fraternity. 148 00:09:57,222 --> 00:09:58,742 When I was playing as a pro, 149 00:09:58,807 --> 00:10:01,769 red holzman encouraged me to think about coaching, 150 00:10:01,852 --> 00:10:05,355 particularly in Puerto Rico, where I ended up coaching for a while. 151 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:11,278 I spent a lot of the time down there in the superior league, it was called. 152 00:10:11,361 --> 00:10:12,821 They played every other day. 153 00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:17,409 And these players would just play ferociously. 154 00:10:32,925 --> 00:10:36,053 There was a local animosity among these small towns. 155 00:10:38,096 --> 00:10:42,017 There were fires on your way out of town and rocks being thrown at your car. 156 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:46,021 They'd kill a chicken in a graveyard 157 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:49,858 and pour the blood on the visiting team's bench. 158 00:10:49,942 --> 00:10:53,737 The town I went to, quebradillas, was ferocious. 159 00:10:53,821 --> 00:10:57,616 The mayor, he had actually shot an official one time with a gun 160 00:10:57,699 --> 00:10:59,827 and hit him in the lower leg. 161 00:10:59,910 --> 00:11:04,289 So, his punishment was he wasn't allowed to go to any more home games 162 00:11:04,373 --> 00:11:05,624 for the rest of the season. 163 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:09,545 But, really, there's a lot of love about the game, 164 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:12,089 and I learned a lot of things from the process. 165 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:18,512 And then I got a call about coaching over in the cba for the Albany patroons. 166 00:11:19,221 --> 00:11:22,641 And now introducing the head coach of the patroons, 167 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:25,936 formerly of the New York k nickerbockers, Phil Jackson. 168 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:27,271 Phil Jackson. 169 00:11:27,771 --> 00:11:30,566 Then in '84, we won the championship. 170 00:11:30,649 --> 00:11:32,192 They came together as a group, 171 00:11:32,276 --> 00:11:34,236 and it's been a great team effort ever since. 172 00:11:34,319 --> 00:11:36,359 - I think we're ecstatic right now. - Whoo! 173 00:11:36,697 --> 00:11:39,700 After that, the bulls tracked me down, 174 00:11:39,783 --> 00:11:44,955 and I got up to interview for an assistant job under Stan albeck. 175 00:11:45,831 --> 00:11:49,293 Jerry krause and I had a really good relationship. 176 00:11:49,376 --> 00:11:50,794 I wanted to bring Phil in. 177 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:54,715 He came in, uh... not dressed real well. 178 00:11:55,090 --> 00:11:56,383 Stan was very conservative, 179 00:11:56,466 --> 00:11:58,677 and Phil looked anything but conservative at that point. 180 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,972 And Stan quickly nixed that idea. 181 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:03,765 Two years later, we had an opening. 182 00:12:04,099 --> 00:12:07,102 And this time, I called Phil and I told him how to dress 183 00:12:07,185 --> 00:12:11,607 and how to talk to Doug. Doug Collins was our coach. 184 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:15,736 And I kind of helped Doug think about it, and we hired Phil. 185 00:12:18,697 --> 00:12:20,032 Under Doug Collins, 186 00:12:20,115 --> 00:12:22,451 one of the assistant coaches was Tex winter. 187 00:12:23,285 --> 00:12:26,622 Jerry krause had the idea that Tex was going to be a mentor. 188 00:12:26,705 --> 00:12:30,834 Doug was gonna follow kind of the things that he would teach as a coach. 189 00:12:30,918 --> 00:12:33,128 When I took this job 11 years ago, 190 00:12:33,211 --> 00:12:34,811 the first person we hired was Tex winter. 191 00:12:35,672 --> 00:12:39,968 He's a brilliant man. The finest offensive mind in basketball. 192 00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:46,475 The triangle is formed between fonnard 2, guard 1, 193 00:12:46,558 --> 00:12:48,185 who has now moved to the corner, 194 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,729 and center 5, who forms the apex of the triangle. 195 00:12:51,855 --> 00:12:54,274 He had a system called "the triangle." 196 00:12:54,358 --> 00:12:57,945 Jerry said, "I've been listening to his basketball philosophy for years, 197 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,865 and he's got the kind of philosophy I'd like to see happen with this team." 198 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:04,785 Doug's philosophy was different. 199 00:13:04,868 --> 00:13:08,580 Doug would have these plays that always ended up with Michael Jordan 200 00:13:08,664 --> 00:13:10,666 being the recipient of the score. 201 00:13:11,541 --> 00:13:12,584 And Tex was always like, 202 00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:16,004 "there's a way of playing this game that's different than that." 203 00:13:16,088 --> 00:13:21,677 Tex winter would berate Doug about, "you should institute the triangle." 204 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,178 Doug would not hear of it. 205 00:13:23,261 --> 00:13:25,055 Doug finally had heard it enough and said, 206 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:28,767 "I'm tired of hearing that," and then the argument escalated a bit, 207 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:31,478 and Tex winter was banned from the bench. 208 00:13:33,897 --> 00:13:35,691 He wasn't coaching on the floor anymore. 209 00:13:35,774 --> 00:13:39,486 He was sitting in the corner and taking notes about the practice. 210 00:13:39,569 --> 00:13:42,030 Jerry krause was really unhappy with that. 211 00:13:43,115 --> 00:13:44,950 During that period of time, 212 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:48,078 krause made the decision that I should work together with Tex winter. 213 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:50,080 Phil was picking the brains 214 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:53,291 of the best basketball man I've ever known, in my life, 215 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:54,918 and I was watching it. 216 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:56,896 And I just thought, "you know what? 217 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,173 This is getting more and more interesting all the time." 218 00:14:08,598 --> 00:14:10,267 Mike, we want you to deny the ball 219 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:12,350 so they can't throw the ball in easy to the blocks. 220 00:14:12,978 --> 00:14:14,938 So, big man, if your man clears, 221 00:14:15,022 --> 00:14:16,898 you must tell Michael that he's alone out there 222 00:14:16,982 --> 00:14:19,276 so he doesn't get naked on the back-door situation. 223 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,699 Midway through my second year, I sort of felt Phil could be the coach. 224 00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:29,161 Justsense. 225 00:14:33,290 --> 00:14:35,167 I just... I mean, it was just feeling. 226 00:14:35,584 --> 00:14:38,086 Jerry wanted to talk to me. So I go in and talk. 227 00:14:38,170 --> 00:14:42,507 He says, "I may have to do something that's gonna rock this franchise." 228 00:14:42,591 --> 00:14:45,093 I said, "what?" He says, "I'm gonna have to fire Doug Collins." 229 00:14:45,177 --> 00:14:47,679 I said, "there's gonna be some fucking balls 230 00:14:47,763 --> 00:14:50,283 to fire a guy that just took us to the eastern conference final." 231 00:14:50,307 --> 00:14:52,160 Now, if you're getting ready for work right now, 232 00:14:52,184 --> 00:14:54,352 then you're probably not Doug Collins. 233 00:14:54,436 --> 00:14:57,564 Chicago Bulls head coach was fired in a surprise move yesterday. 234 00:14:58,148 --> 00:15:01,068 You know, I got the worst-kept secret in town sitting next to me. 235 00:15:01,151 --> 00:15:04,780 You guys, as usual, got us on that one. 236 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:06,948 For the last two years, 237 00:15:07,032 --> 00:15:09,910 Phil Jackson has been a very integral part of this organization, 238 00:15:09,993 --> 00:15:12,204 and he's now ready to be a head coach. 239 00:15:12,287 --> 00:15:13,455 Welcome, coach. 240 00:15:13,538 --> 00:15:14,538 Thanks, Jerry. 241 00:15:15,874 --> 00:15:17,769 Have you talked to Michael Jordan yet? 242 00:15:17,793 --> 00:15:19,878 - Yes, I have. - What'd he say? 243 00:15:19,961 --> 00:15:22,631 "Congratulations. Let's go win a championship." 244 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:27,511 Phil took over and just had a different approach. 245 00:15:28,178 --> 00:15:33,016 Doug's approach was more catered to Michael, 246 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:37,479 and Phil's approach was more catered to the team. 247 00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:40,816 I wasn't a Phil Jackson fan, you know, when he first came in, 248 00:15:40,899 --> 00:15:44,402 you know, because he was coming in to take the ball out of my hands. 249 00:15:44,486 --> 00:15:46,613 Doug put the ball in my hands. 250 00:15:47,948 --> 00:15:50,242 Tex winter, his right-hand man, 251 00:15:50,325 --> 00:15:53,578 had sold him on an offense that he believed 252 00:15:53,662 --> 00:15:58,667 would get us out of this one-on-one type of basketball. 253 00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:00,502 The triangle offense is set 254 00:16:00,585 --> 00:16:04,172 so that there's a key pass that creates motion. 255 00:16:05,757 --> 00:16:07,926 Then there's 33 different types of options 256 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:09,636 that come out of that single pass. 257 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:16,977 Players can do spontaneous, creative things, using their strengths. 258 00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:20,188 You know, everybody has an opportunity to touch the ball, 259 00:16:20,272 --> 00:16:23,483 but I didn't want bill Cartwright to have the ball with five seconds left. 260 00:16:23,567 --> 00:16:27,612 Bounce into cartwr/ght, shoots over roi/ins. Nope. 261 00:16:27,696 --> 00:16:31,199 That's not equal-opportunity offense. That's fuckin' bullshit. 262 00:16:31,283 --> 00:16:35,370 Oh, my/ Michael Jordan has 54 points/ 263 00:16:35,453 --> 00:16:40,250 sixty points for jordan/ s/xty-nine points for Michael Jordan. 264 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,336 There was so many times Tex used to yell at me, saying, 265 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:45,172 "move the ball, move the ball." 266 00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:48,258 He says, "no 'i' in 'team.'" I say, "there's an 'i' in win." 267 00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:51,970 I met Michael and I told him what we were gonna do. 268 00:16:52,053 --> 00:16:57,142 "Obviously, you've scored 37, 38 points a game last couple years. 269 00:16:57,225 --> 00:17:00,770 I don't anticipate you're gonna be the scoring champion in the league. 270 00:17:01,271 --> 00:17:02,564 The spotlight's on the ball, 271 00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:05,275 and if you're always the guy that's gonna have the ball, 272 00:17:05,358 --> 00:17:08,612 teams can generate a defense against that, 273 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:11,865 which is what's happened with the pistons the last couple years." 274 00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:14,284 He said, "I'm not worried about you, 275 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,527 but we got to find a way to make everybody else better. 276 00:17:16,578 --> 00:17:17,954 We got to create other threats." 277 00:17:19,289 --> 00:17:22,834 I came in the game as being a point guard, 278 00:17:22,918 --> 00:17:28,256 but my growth sort of grew me into a small fonnard. 279 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:33,094 The triangle offense allowed me to be more of what I wanted to be. 280 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,181 Scottie p/ppen's turnaround/ 281 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:39,726 scottie kind of developed that new position called the point-fonnard. 282 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:42,687 Instead of, you know, being in Michael's shadow, 283 00:17:42,771 --> 00:17:45,982 scottie was starting to blossom as one of the top players in the NBA. 284 00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:48,193 Beautiful move by scottie/ 285 00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:52,072 Ll/laking his all-star debut from the Chicago Bulls, scottie p/ppen. 286 00:17:57,619 --> 00:18:00,914 Michael Jordan is making an aoy'ustment to this new philosophy, 287 00:18:00,997 --> 00:18:03,875 which tries to relieve him of the offensive burden. 288 00:18:04,334 --> 00:18:08,380 He realized that him playing and just scoring 30 points 289 00:18:08,463 --> 00:18:11,258 wasn't gonna win the last game of the season. 290 00:18:11,341 --> 00:18:14,803 I'm not gonna be the type of person who's very hungry 291 00:18:14,886 --> 00:18:18,890 to lead the league in scoring once again or to chase individual accolades. 292 00:18:18,974 --> 00:18:24,187 He made a conscious effort to say, "no individual is gonna be the team." 293 00:18:24,271 --> 00:18:26,606 Right now I'm more or less geared towards team success. 294 00:18:27,023 --> 00:18:28,692 That's a special thing to have happen, 295 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:32,362 when the largest icon that the NBA's ever had understands that, 296 00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:34,906 "I don't have to have the ball in my hands all the time." 297 00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:38,910 With the triangle offense, 298 00:18:38,994 --> 00:18:40,846 certainly, it needed some little time to adjust, 299 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:42,710 for everyone to adjust to it at their own pace, 300 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:48,670 and it took us about a year, a year or so as a team to do it. 301 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:51,131 But by the 1990 playoffs, 302 00:18:51,214 --> 00:18:55,343 we all felt that we were ready to beat the Detroit pistons. 303 00:18:55,427 --> 00:18:57,804 The hurdle that comes up now is the big one. 304 00:18:57,887 --> 00:19:02,350 And we know that the challenge of the Detroit pistons is immense. 305 00:19:02,434 --> 00:19:04,978 And it's one that we've been waiting for all season long. 306 00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:08,898 Chicago was the only team to beat the pistons in the playoffs last year, 307 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:12,193 and they're a deeper and more balanced team this time around. 308 00:19:12,569 --> 00:19:15,613 I felt like we were in a position to win, you know, 309 00:19:15,697 --> 00:19:18,742 and we pushed them to a game 7 in their building. 310 00:19:22,412 --> 00:19:23,413 Yeah. 311 00:19:25,790 --> 00:19:29,169 7'he defending world champions, the Detroit pistons, 312 00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:31,546 extended to a seventh game. 313 00:19:31,629 --> 00:19:38,386 And 27, 500 are gathered here for a very special afternoon. 314 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:42,766 When I got up that morning and went down for breakfast, 315 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:44,225 I had a headache. 316 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:47,771 It started feeling like I wanted to throw up. 317 00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:54,027 I went to the arena, you know, did my regular routine, warming up, 318 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:58,698 and I was just, like, blind. I couldn't see. 319 00:19:58,782 --> 00:20:00,617 Game seven... let's go! 320 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,970 - You know what time it is. - Go 110%. 321 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,329 Y'all know what it is, man. 322 00:20:06,081 --> 00:20:07,374 Let's go guys. Horse. 323 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:12,087 - Yeah. - You know we gotta go. 324 00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:14,940 - This is it. - Let's go. 325 00:20:14,964 --> 00:20:15,840 All in. 326 00:20:15,924 --> 00:20:17,801 - All out. - No doubt. Let's go! 327 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:25,892 All right! 328 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:30,605 Game seven from the palace. 329 00:20:34,317 --> 00:20:35,777 Piston ball. 330 00:20:37,779 --> 00:20:40,532 As the game started, I couldn't focus. 331 00:20:41,199 --> 00:20:43,701 Everything was blurry. I was seeing double, black, 332 00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:46,704 and I just... I couldn't get my eyesight. 333 00:20:47,288 --> 00:20:51,668 Pippen is one and five in the field. One and six. 334 00:20:53,711 --> 00:20:56,339 I told them, "I can't see." 335 00:20:57,173 --> 00:20:58,800 And I was taken out of the game. 336 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,972 He said a migraine. 337 00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:06,975 I don't... I can't argue the point that he had a migraine. 338 00:21:07,058 --> 00:21:10,895 It was just one of those things that, you know, it was so unfortunate. 339 00:21:10,979 --> 00:21:13,481 When you can't see and you're seeing double 340 00:21:13,565 --> 00:21:16,860 and you want to vomit and you got to play against Dennis rodman? 341 00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:31,541 P/ppen passes inside, laimbeer knocks it a way. 342 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:35,128 Four-ten to go. Here's Isiah. 343 00:21:36,671 --> 00:21:39,924 The plays from the bulls right now are plays of desperation. 344 00:21:40,008 --> 00:21:42,343 Guys are trying to do more than the y're capable of doing, 345 00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:43,747 and that includes Michael Jordan. 346 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,977 The lead is 20. 347 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,854 And they, the Detroit pistons, 348 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:56,274 will meet the Portland trail blazers in a best-of-7 349 00:21:56,357 --> 00:21:59,360 beginning Tuesday n/ght on CBS. 350 00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:09,913 Michael Jordan had 37, and he's with pat o'brien. 351 00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:13,583 Mike... here with Michael Jordan, here in the midst of the celebration. 352 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:15,478 What are you saying to the other players, Michael? 353 00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:18,630 All you can do is wish them good luck. I mean, you know, we fought hard. 354 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:19,756 They were the better team. 355 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:22,717 We want to be where they are, but we still got to wait our turn. 356 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,240 We still trying to improve our team. 357 00:22:24,302 --> 00:22:26,502 They were the better team, and they played better today. 358 00:22:29,724 --> 00:22:33,269 We were sitting in the locker room after the game, 359 00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:35,605 and nothing was said. 360 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:38,024 Everyone just sat there for a moment. 361 00:22:39,859 --> 00:22:43,196 We had the chance to beat them. We just didn't respond. 362 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:46,866 You know, we got to that hill. We almost looked over the hill. 363 00:22:47,325 --> 00:22:50,578 I was devastated. I was absolutely devastated. 364 00:22:52,121 --> 00:22:54,165 I cried on the bus, and my father came on and said, 365 00:22:54,249 --> 00:22:58,586 "look, it's just one game. Bounce back, come back next year." 366 00:23:02,507 --> 00:23:07,303 I remember losing to the pistons. Damn pistons. 367 00:23:09,013 --> 00:23:11,558 Now, that shit hurt. 368 00:23:11,641 --> 00:23:14,769 You couldn't deny that they were a great team. 369 00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:17,689 We had to either change something about ourself 370 00:23:17,772 --> 00:23:19,274 or we weren't gonna beat them. 371 00:23:19,357 --> 00:23:20,692 Can't touch this! 372 00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:22,318 - Congratulations. - Can't touch this! 373 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,279 Thanks, pat. 374 00:23:24,362 --> 00:23:28,283 After that game, instead of us all going on vacation, 375 00:23:28,366 --> 00:23:30,368 we all showed up and we started working out. 376 00:23:33,288 --> 00:23:37,125 And everybody, starting with Michael, changed. 377 00:23:37,208 --> 00:23:39,836 Before the pistons, Michael didn't weight train. 378 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:42,046 He didn't go in much for strength training. 379 00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:44,316 And after getting the shit beat out of him by the pistons, 380 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:47,218 finally decided, "I got to put some muscle on." 381 00:23:47,302 --> 00:23:50,930 I was getting brutally beaten up. 382 00:23:51,014 --> 00:23:54,309 And I wanted to administer pain. 383 00:23:54,392 --> 00:23:56,686 You know, I wanted to start, you know, fighting back. 384 00:23:57,478 --> 00:23:59,314 It's very difficult to add muscle 385 00:23:59,397 --> 00:24:01,816 for an athlete that's constantly burning calories 386 00:24:01,899 --> 00:24:03,776 running up and down all the time. 387 00:24:04,986 --> 00:24:06,779 We started at 200. 388 00:24:06,863 --> 00:24:12,952 We added five pounds until he got to 215. 389 00:24:21,127 --> 00:24:24,088 I put it in just to get myself physically strong enough 390 00:24:24,172 --> 00:24:25,172 to go against Detroit. 391 00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:27,717 I was a slim and skinny kid, 392 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,553 and now that I put on a couple pounds, 393 00:24:30,637 --> 00:24:32,639 I can throw my weight around a little bit more now. 394 00:24:32,722 --> 00:24:35,558 I would give him a certain amount of reps to do. 395 00:24:35,642 --> 00:24:37,393 He would never stop at that number. 396 00:24:37,477 --> 00:24:40,271 If I asked for six, I know he was gonna do 12. 397 00:24:42,774 --> 00:24:44,776 He got to the point where he was just like, 398 00:24:44,859 --> 00:24:49,781 "instead of them dishing it to me, I'm gonna dish it back to them." 399 00:25:08,758 --> 00:25:09,926 Which ate at me. 400 00:25:10,635 --> 00:25:11,969 It did. It did. 401 00:25:14,097 --> 00:25:20,853 My energy started to gear towards my teammates and pushing them to excel. 402 00:25:20,937 --> 00:25:23,564 Michael forced the hand of a lot of the players 403 00:25:23,648 --> 00:25:27,568 to really dedicate themselves to off-season training. 404 00:25:27,652 --> 00:25:31,197 Like, "okay, we're gonna spend the summer dedicated to this proposition 405 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,826 that we're not gonna be runners-up. We're gonna be champions." 406 00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:37,036 Michael was on us. 407 00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:39,205 No mistakes allowed. 408 00:25:39,997 --> 00:25:42,792 Man, I see a screaming devil. 409 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,212 You make a mistake, he's gonna scream at you. 410 00:25:46,295 --> 00:25:51,217 He's gonna belittle you. He demands almost perfection. 411 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:57,348 Man, when you see your leader working extremely hard in practice, 412 00:25:57,432 --> 00:26:01,102 you feel like, "oh, man, if I don't give it my all, 413 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:02,478 I shouldn't be here." 414 00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:06,315 He taught me how to stay in the gym, 415 00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:11,446 and he spent a lot of time starting to build the confidence that I needed. 416 00:26:11,529 --> 00:26:13,865 Pippen became my focal point. 417 00:26:13,948 --> 00:26:15,467 More than any other player, 418 00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:18,035 scottie benefited from playing with Michael Jordan, 419 00:26:18,995 --> 00:26:23,207 because scottie had this raw athletic ability. 420 00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:25,251 Two-hand dunk by p/ppen/ 421 00:26:25,334 --> 00:26:28,463 what he didn't have was what Michael brought every day, 422 00:26:28,546 --> 00:26:32,633 which was the drive to be the very best every single day, 423 00:26:32,717 --> 00:26:35,219 the mental focus of the game. 424 00:26:43,895 --> 00:26:45,772 The thing about pip is, you know, 425 00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:48,983 if you stand next to him, you make him stronger. 426 00:26:49,734 --> 00:26:53,738 All the Detroit times, when rodman wanted to pick on him, 427 00:26:53,821 --> 00:26:56,657 he needed someone there to stand there and say, 428 00:26:56,741 --> 00:26:58,534 "hey, look, I'll fight with you. Just fight." 429 00:26:59,702 --> 00:27:01,162 Scottie and I bonded, 430 00:27:01,245 --> 00:27:05,291 you know, because he felt like, okay, he has someone that he can count on. 431 00:27:05,374 --> 00:27:09,212 And I'm looking at, "okay, I got someone who I can actually count on." 432 00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:11,881 And then Horace came right behind that. 433 00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:14,884 During the time that the pistons reigned over us, 434 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:17,220 every time they'd do something to us, 435 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:20,640 we would complain to the referee or we would try to go back at them. 436 00:27:21,849 --> 00:27:23,935 Horace used to get beaten up. 437 00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:27,122 He got Grant with an elbow in the side... 438 00:27:27,146 --> 00:27:28,386 And he would come back whining. 439 00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:32,443 And I say, "don't fucking whine. Don't let 'em see you whine. 440 00:27:32,527 --> 00:27:34,028 That's when they know they got you.“ 441 00:27:34,111 --> 00:27:37,657 With them being more mentally dominant than we were, 442 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:41,118 they knew, as soon as we start complaining, they had us. 443 00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:42,078 And they did. 444 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:45,498 Horace Grant has got to realize this game is not over. 445 00:27:45,581 --> 00:27:48,459 You can't give the world champions anything. 446 00:27:49,126 --> 00:27:52,463 Just be strong. You know, we're gonna beat these bullies. 447 00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:56,425 In '91, the bulls were determined to be the tougher team. 448 00:27:56,884 --> 00:28:03,683 The pain of losing to Detroit again the year before brought a fury 449 00:28:03,766 --> 00:28:07,270 into that season that they had not had. 450 00:28:07,353 --> 00:28:09,480 Jordan knocks the ball out of bounds. 451 00:28:09,564 --> 00:28:11,566 No, he didn't. He saved it in play to p/ppen. 452 00:28:11,649 --> 00:28:14,443 What a spectacular defensive play by jordan/ 453 00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:15,820 here's a pass stolen by Jordan. 454 00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:18,063 Being around Michael every day like that... 455 00:28:19,156 --> 00:28:21,075 It just brought it out of us. 456 00:28:21,158 --> 00:28:24,704 Scottie evolved. Horace evolved. I evolved. 457 00:28:24,787 --> 00:28:26,789 It was just a great feeling. 458 00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:30,751 We had matured in a lot of ways, physically, mentally. 459 00:28:30,835 --> 00:28:31,937 Jordan dribbles out, 460 00:28:31,961 --> 00:28:33,796 a hook pass to p/ppen underneath for the dunk. 461 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,050 It was time for us to become the top team in the game. 462 00:28:47,143 --> 00:28:53,107 And now, the starting lineup for your Chicago Bulls... 463 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:59,030 Everybody in Chicago hated the pistons. 464 00:28:59,488 --> 00:29:00,740 This was personal. 465 00:29:00,823 --> 00:29:03,284 Like, if anybody says it wasn't personal, it was personal. 466 00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:07,830 Game one of the best of se ven. 467 00:29:07,914 --> 00:29:09,558 I didn't even really wanna deal with my relatives 468 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:11,292 in Detroit during that period. 469 00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:13,210 I didn't want to go stay with them. 470 00:29:13,294 --> 00:29:14,962 My first cousins, "yeah, whatever. 471 00:29:15,046 --> 00:29:17,715 You know, we don't like you right now." They didn't like us. 472 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:21,177 The opening up. Game one. 473 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,529 We had our character challenged 474 00:29:22,553 --> 00:29:24,472 the last two years and we failed, 475 00:29:24,555 --> 00:29:29,518 but that third year, we put them in our rear-view mirror. 476 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:33,064 Bill laimbeer. Jordan with the steal. 477 00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:35,066 Jordan./ - 478 00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:36,400 He 'i/ go to the foul line. 479 00:29:36,484 --> 00:29:39,338 Michael Jordan is not gonna back down from anyone right now. 480 00:29:39,362 --> 00:29:40,562 He's the leader for that team. 481 00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:42,698 He understands what to expect during the series. 482 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:45,326 He's gonna hold his ground, make a statement. 483 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,583 I thought we were a good enough team 484 00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:57,046 to at least make the series a little bit more competitive, 485 00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,297 and we didn't. 486 00:29:58,381 --> 00:30:00,108 P/ppen against I/innie up the fight side... 487 00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:01,634 To the baseline. 488 00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:03,844 Fills it up and a foul/ 489 00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:13,396 All right, Ahmad game four of the best of se ven. 490 00:30:14,772 --> 00:30:18,192 Nice fake by Jordan... Goes to the scoop/ 491 00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:24,657 p/ppen... oh/ beautiful move by... Scottie p/ppen off to a fast start. 492 00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,367 He has 70 points. 493 00:30:28,452 --> 00:30:30,329 You know something's coming. 494 00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:32,373 This team is desperate. 495 00:30:32,456 --> 00:30:35,501 They've done everything they can. Now they're really desperate. 496 00:30:36,711 --> 00:30:39,213 Armstrong and cra/g Hodges in the back court. 497 00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:42,008 Clitflevingston, bill cartwr/ght, and scottie p/ppen up front. 498 00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:44,969 Beautiful back-door pass for p/ppen. And he is walloped 499 00:30:45,052 --> 00:30:47,179 and that will be a flagrant foul. 500 00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:50,307 And it's getting very, very tough out there. 501 00:30:51,058 --> 00:30:53,269 Dennis rodman pushed scottie, 502 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:57,982 and could have injured him pretty severely. 503 00:30:58,065 --> 00:31:01,944 It was clearly a flagrant foul. 504 00:31:02,278 --> 00:31:05,823 That's a clear-cut cheap shot, no question. Clear cut. 505 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:08,367 Scottie pippen was racked up. 506 00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:13,247 When pippen didn't respond to that abuse, 507 00:31:13,956 --> 00:31:15,958 there's nothing they could do to beat us then. 508 00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:24,133 Scottie was unshakable. Didn't even want a band-aid. 509 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:26,302 When we saw that, it was over. 510 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:29,055 You know, it was just like, "okay, it's a foul. 511 00:31:29,138 --> 00:31:32,725 Um, let's go and finish kicking their ass and, you know..." 512 00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:34,643 And put them out of their misery. 513 00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:37,271 Jordan rebounds. He has p/ppen. 514 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:45,112 Chicago Bulls about to put the pistons away in four. 515 00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:48,240 And p/ppen able to feed it off to jordan/ 516 00:31:48,324 --> 00:31:50,364 And Chuck is now clearing the bench. 517 00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:53,370 Miller genuine draft player of the game, 518 00:31:53,454 --> 00:31:55,915 scottie p/ppen of the Chicago Bulls. 519 00:31:55,998 --> 00:31:57,792 We were tasting victory 520 00:31:57,875 --> 00:32:02,838 over a team that just kicked your butt for the last three or four years. 521 00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:09,345 I mean, the gratification... You truly cannot put it into words. 522 00:32:11,555 --> 00:32:12,890 It is all over. 523 00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:21,440 That's the only time that I think I'd ever been swept in a series. 524 00:32:21,524 --> 00:32:24,360 I was normally the one doing the sweeping. 525 00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:30,991 Their time had arrived, and ours was over. 526 00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:34,787 As we're coming out of the game, 527 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:38,624 laimbeer said, "you know, we're not shaking their hands. 528 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:40,918 This is how we're leaving." 529 00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:44,797 7'he pistons wasting no time in getting out of here, 530 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,757 as they are headed off .. 531 00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,402 We didn't shake hands. No, we just walked off the court. 532 00:32:49,426 --> 00:32:51,679 "Fuck you guys. Thank you for kicking our ass." 533 00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:55,307 They left the bench although there's 7.9 seconds remaining. 534 00:32:55,391 --> 00:32:57,351 7'he pistons just left. 535 00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:59,287 I think it was very difficult for them 536 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,981 because they were two-time champions. 537 00:33:02,064 --> 00:33:05,192 But, you know, there certainly has to be some respect. 538 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:09,029 Straight-up bitches. 539 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,952 "Now, we just kicked your ass. Go ahead and go." 540 00:33:15,536 --> 00:33:19,373 Detroit had a similar thing with Boston that we had with them. 541 00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:21,375 They had to overcome Boston and they did. 542 00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:22,751 And I can still remember... 543 00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:25,421 It was the first time that, uh... 544 00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:26,630 Detroit beat them, 545 00:33:26,714 --> 00:33:29,675 and I can see Kevin mchale coming out to half court 546 00:33:29,758 --> 00:33:31,594 and shaking hands and things like that. 547 00:33:33,387 --> 00:33:37,433 No. Adrian dantley was shooting a free throw, 548 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:42,688 and the Boston celtics were walking off during the game. 549 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:45,107 And I grabbed mchale, 550 00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:51,238 and then he stopped as he was walking off the floor. 551 00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:53,449 That's how they left the floor. 552 00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:56,493 And to us, that was okay. 553 00:33:57,578 --> 00:34:04,168 Knowing what we know now, in the aftermath of what took place, 554 00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:05,544 I think we would have stopped 555 00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:08,047 and said, "hey, congratulations," like they do now. 556 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:11,133 "Hey, congratulations. Love ya, man. Love ya. Hey, congratulations." 557 00:34:11,217 --> 00:34:13,969 I mean, we would have did it. Of course we would have done it. 558 00:34:14,637 --> 00:34:20,184 But during that period of time, that's just not how it was passed. 559 00:34:20,267 --> 00:34:21,727 When you lost, you left the floor. 560 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:23,437 That was it. 561 00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:30,569 Well, I know it's all bullshit. 562 00:34:31,278 --> 00:34:34,031 Whatever he says now, you know it wasn't his true actions then. 563 00:34:34,114 --> 00:34:36,200 You know, he has time enough to think about it 564 00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:37,743 or the reaction of the public 565 00:34:37,826 --> 00:34:40,162 that's kind of changed his perspective of it. 566 00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:43,624 You can show me anything you want. 567 00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,543 There's no way you can convince me he wasn't an asshole. 568 00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:51,090 Knowing what we know now, 569 00:34:51,173 --> 00:34:55,052 in the aftermath of what took place... 570 00:34:55,469 --> 00:35:00,683 But during that period of time, that's just not how it was passed 571 00:35:01,225 --> 00:35:02,268 it just wasn't. 572 00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:06,146 And you can go back and you can look at any of those old games or whatever. 573 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:07,648 When you lost, you left the floor. 574 00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:14,071 All you gotta do is you go back to us losing in game seven. 575 00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:16,657 I shook everybody's hand. 576 00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:21,203 Two years in a row, we shook their hands when they beat us. 577 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:25,708 There is a certain respect to the game that we paid to them. 578 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,920 And that's sportsmanship, no matter how much it hurts. 579 00:35:30,379 --> 00:35:32,339 And believe me, it fucking hurt. 580 00:35:32,423 --> 00:35:34,425 But they didn't have to shake our hands. 581 00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:37,970 We knew we whupped their ass already, we'd gotten past them, 582 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:40,889 and that was the most... To me, that was better than, you know, 583 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:42,933 in some ways, winning the championship. 584 00:35:51,525 --> 00:35:55,070 Sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep! 585 00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,490 J“ lthrow my tape on j“ 586 00:35:58,574 --> 00:35:59,574 j“ then / watch ya j“ 587 00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:00,826 j“ 7'hree seconds laterj“ 588 00:36:00,909 --> 00:36:02,578 j“ / got ya shakin' your head j“ 589 00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:04,079 j“ dancinj instead of sittin'j“ 590 00:36:04,163 --> 00:36:04,997 j“ the rhymes kick j“ 591 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,333 j“ the beats hittin ' you just like a home run j“ 592 00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:08,876 j“ slammin ' like a slam dunk j“ 593 00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,878 j“ riding the wave James brown gave funk j“ 594 00:36:10,961 --> 00:36:12,881 j“ it happened to James like it happened to me j“ 595 00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:16,467 j“ how you think it feel to see another emcee getting paid? J“ 596 00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:17,718 j“ usin ' my rap style j“ 597 00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:20,012 j“ and I'm playin' the background mean while j“ 598 00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:21,305 j“ lain't with that j“ 599 00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:22,556 j“ you can forget that j“ 600 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:23,724 j“ you took my style j“ 601 00:36:23,807 --> 00:36:24,683 j" I'm takin ' it back I” 602 00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:26,935 j“ coming back like return of the jedi j“ 603 00:36:27,019 --> 00:36:29,188 j“ sucker emcees in the place that said / j“ 604 00:36:29,271 --> 00:36:30,832 j“ could only rock rhymes only rock crowds j“ 605 00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:32,858 j“ but never rock records j“ 606 00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:34,401 j“ how ya like me now? J“ 607 00:36:34,485 --> 00:36:39,281 Go, Jerry! 608 00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:43,869 J“ how ya like me now? J“ 609 00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:45,412 j“ funk, funk, funkj“ 610 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:48,957 j“ funk, funkj“ 611 00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:54,463 j“ now brothers are riding me like a pony j“ 612 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,965 j“ to a party, watch me stand around, and jock me j“ 613 00:36:57,049 --> 00:36:59,093 j“ become a rapper, then try to rock me j“ 614 00:37:07,434 --> 00:37:08,936 J“ how ya like me now? J“ 615 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,119 In sports, 616 00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:29,415 the stage is set for the air-magic show in the NBA finals. 617 00:37:29,498 --> 00:37:31,542 Starting Sunday, it will be Michael Jordan 618 00:37:31,625 --> 00:37:32,459 and the Chicago Bulls 619 00:37:32,543 --> 00:37:35,087 against magic Johnson and the la Lakers. 620 00:37:36,547 --> 00:37:38,307 You know, when you're a competitor, 621 00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:40,175 you want to play against the best. 622 00:37:40,259 --> 00:37:43,804 I played against Larry and I've always wanted to play against Michael. 623 00:37:45,347 --> 00:37:48,308 Up until that point, there was a stigma that Michael Jordan, 624 00:37:48,392 --> 00:37:50,227 all he does is win scoring titles. 625 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:51,645 He never wins championships. 626 00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:56,442 That was my chance to get in the category 627 00:37:56,525 --> 00:37:58,485 of Larry bird and magic Johnson. 628 00:38:09,538 --> 00:38:11,248 The NBA is a league of stars, 629 00:38:11,331 --> 00:38:14,918 and none shine brighter than magic Johnson and Michael Jordan. 630 00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:17,546 And while much has been said about their respective teams, 631 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:20,716 nothing has been more anticipated than their individual matchup. 632 00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:28,432 And we 're set for the start of game one. 633 00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:31,226 The opening up controlled by the la Lakers. 634 00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:35,439 And magic Johnson moves across against Michael Jordan. 635 00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:38,942 You know, we were nervous. You know, the first time. 636 00:38:39,026 --> 00:38:40,486 And we didn't even play well. 637 00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:42,422 And now, ll/lagic got it out for I/I/orthy... 638 00:38:42,446 --> 00:38:44,448 What a play/ magic Johnson! 639 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,992 You know, Sam Perkins hits a three at the end. 640 00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:47,993 He's got it/ 641 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:49,995 And the bulls lose game one. 642 00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:53,040 Everybody, including me, goes, "okay, the Lakers are gonna win this thing." 643 00:38:53,457 --> 00:38:55,542 They beat us on our home court. 644 00:38:55,626 --> 00:38:58,337 But in our minds, we had a chance to beat these guys 645 00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:59,880 and we didn't even play good. 646 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:01,715 So we were looking foward to game two. 647 00:39:01,798 --> 00:39:06,136 We are set for game two of the NBA finals. 648 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:08,972 So, game two, Jordan goes nuts. 649 00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:10,724 Over Scott. 650 00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:12,893 Michael Jordan on fire. 651 00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:17,689 He's got it. Twelve stra/ght field goals for Michael jordan/ 652 00:39:17,773 --> 00:39:20,776 look away, to levingston... Jordan... 653 00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:26,365 Oh/ a spectacular mo ve by Michael jordan/ 654 00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:29,952 that's 73 consecutive field goals/ 655 00:39:36,792 --> 00:39:39,112 The change of putting p/ppen on magic Johnson 656 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:40,462 rather than Michael Jordan... 657 00:39:40,546 --> 00:39:43,107 Magic Johnson's the greatest point guard I've ever seen, 658 00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:46,051 and scottie pippen was picking magic Johnson up full court. 659 00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:48,929 Nobody did that. 660 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,241 Scottie accepted that challenge, 661 00:39:51,265 --> 00:39:53,642 and I knew what scottie was gonna do. 662 00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:55,602 I see it in practice all the time. 663 00:39:55,686 --> 00:39:58,313 He gets up in your face, and he harasses you, 664 00:39:58,397 --> 00:39:59,940 and pip never let him get started. 665 00:40:04,486 --> 00:40:07,990 Scottie p/ppen did a tremendous job 666 00:40:08,073 --> 00:40:10,242 in defending against ll/lagic... 667 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:14,329 And once we did that in game two, we never looked back. 668 00:40:14,413 --> 00:40:16,498 Jordan around divac. 669 00:40:17,457 --> 00:40:23,505 Chicago Bulls take a 2—7 lead in the best of se ven. 670 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:27,426 And teagle now one for six, and it leads to this. 671 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:32,139 The Chicago Bulls come away with a resounding victory. 672 00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,226 In command virtually all the way. 673 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:42,274 And it's this simple, the Lakers have to win three in a row. 674 00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,318 Game 5 moments away. 675 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:46,695 Hello, everybody. I'm Bob costas. 676 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,822 This is the Larry o'brien trophy. 677 00:40:48,905 --> 00:40:51,366 All indications are that, by evening's end, 678 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:53,619 it'll be in the possession of the Chicago Bulls. 679 00:40:56,455 --> 00:41:01,627 Game five was a great back-and-forth, back-and-forth, back-and-forth game. 680 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:04,129 Ll/lagic tires for Smith... 681 00:41:04,212 --> 00:41:06,256 Good recovery. It counts/ 682 00:41:07,007 --> 00:41:08,759 Lakers with a one-point lead 683 00:41:09,259 --> 00:41:11,303 Jordan with a gorgeous move. 684 00:41:11,386 --> 00:41:13,055 7'he bulls lead it by three. 685 00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:14,556 Il/lagic. 686 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,224 Dumps it off 687 00:41:16,308 --> 00:41:21,271 after three, the bulls and the Lakers are tied at 80. 688 00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:27,027 So, the fourth quarter, it's a precarious lead. 689 00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:32,407 So during a time-out, Phil asks Michael, "m.J., who's open?" 690 00:41:32,491 --> 00:41:33,659 And he goes, "paxson." 691 00:41:33,742 --> 00:41:35,502 He goes, "all right, then. Get him the ball." 692 00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:38,497 Run around to the point. 693 00:41:44,419 --> 00:41:46,338 Phil said it, you know, forcefully. 694 00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:48,965 "Paxson is open. Get him the ball." 695 00:41:49,049 --> 00:41:50,884 And I started looking for paxson. 696 00:41:50,967 --> 00:41:53,553 Everybody, you know, in the world's expecting Jordan 697 00:41:53,637 --> 00:41:55,430 to force something through a double-team. 698 00:41:55,514 --> 00:41:56,866 Therein the foul-line area wide open. 699 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,476 He doesn't do it. He draws and dishes. 700 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,019 Paxson open again. 701 00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:05,399 He trusts his teammate to make the shot. 702 00:42:05,482 --> 00:42:10,362 Once pax hits that first shot, I said, "oh, okay. Fine. Let me do this again." 703 00:42:10,445 --> 00:42:12,072 Penetrate, find pax, 704 00:42:12,155 --> 00:42:14,801 and he just kept hitting them, kept hitting them, kept hitting them. 705 00:42:14,825 --> 00:42:17,202 A gain/ e/ghteen for paxson/ 706 00:42:17,285 --> 00:42:20,455 that was exactly what Phil was trying to get Michael to understand 707 00:42:20,539 --> 00:42:23,125 and believe in over the couple years is that, 708 00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:24,560 "hey, these other guys can help you out." 709 00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:27,629 It is a two-point lead for Chicago. 710 00:42:28,255 --> 00:42:32,092 Paxson. Yes/ John paxson again. 711 00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:38,557 And the Chicago Bulls have won their first-e ver NBA championsh/p. 712 00:42:52,863 --> 00:42:55,157 Yes! Yes! Yes! 713 00:43:13,049 --> 00:43:14,301 That was wonderful. 714 00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:16,636 - Scottie. - Yes! 715 00:43:17,304 --> 00:43:19,431 Whoo! Whoo! 716 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,855 When you get to that finish line and you know that you won... 717 00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:30,692 All those emotions that you wrapped up into it, you can just kind of let go. 718 00:43:35,572 --> 00:43:36,615 I mean, everybody knows... 719 00:43:36,698 --> 00:43:40,911 Has the picture in their mind of when we beat Cleveland on that last shot 720 00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:43,663 and he's punching the air and he's all excited. 721 00:43:43,747 --> 00:43:47,501 That's who we knew, the competitive Michael Jordan. 722 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,880 The win-at-all-cost Michael Jordan. 723 00:43:53,799 --> 00:43:56,468 Sometimes we'd question whether he was human, 724 00:43:56,551 --> 00:43:58,428 whether he had feelings. 725 00:43:59,221 --> 00:44:03,558 Just a guy that was totally focused on one thing and one thing only. 726 00:44:03,642 --> 00:44:07,813 The only emotion we had ever seen out of him was anger or frustration. 727 00:44:07,896 --> 00:44:11,233 We were literally stunned to see those emotions. 728 00:44:18,782 --> 00:44:23,453 And when they beat us, we met in between both locker rooms, 729 00:44:23,537 --> 00:44:27,541 and he just put his arms and just started crying. 730 00:44:27,624 --> 00:44:31,127 He was so happy that he had won, that he busted through. 731 00:44:31,211 --> 00:44:35,757 That was a special moment for him and myself. 732 00:44:35,841 --> 00:44:37,425 It's a beautiful feeling. 733 00:44:37,509 --> 00:44:39,695 If you're gonna lose, you're gonna lose to them, you know, 734 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,849 and I'MMA lose to Michael. And that's how it should be. 735 00:44:45,392 --> 00:44:46,518 At last, 736 00:44:46,601 --> 00:44:50,939 I fit somewhere in the category of Larry bird and magic Johnson. 737 00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:27,142 No, we're here. Don't show it to anybody. 738 00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:28,225 Let me show it. 739 00:45:29,644 --> 00:45:30,729 Yeah. 740 00:45:31,396 --> 00:45:32,939 Denver. Denver. 741 00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:37,193 How about them broncos? 742 00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:39,988 Hey, Eric! 743 00:45:40,071 --> 00:45:41,239 Cheesehead! 744 00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:43,825 Security. 745 00:45:44,242 --> 00:45:46,411 - Yeah? - Security. 746 00:45:51,374 --> 00:45:53,209 Oh, my! Hey. 747 00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:54,836 Hey, don't say that on camera, yo. 748 00:46:02,677 --> 00:46:05,221 Hey, m. M. M, come on. Hey, m. 749 00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:11,311 M, that's messed up. 750 00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,284 Hey, hey, Phil, you can't work for the media and be on this plane. 751 00:46:26,368 --> 00:46:27,494 Right here? See this. 752 00:46:27,577 --> 00:46:29,621 The highest paid media guy in the world. 753 00:46:32,415 --> 00:46:36,378 No, he wishes, though. He wishes he does. Believe me. 754 00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:41,549 The afc finally won. 755 00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:45,470 It's actually kind of, like, a sign of times are changing. 756 00:46:45,553 --> 00:46:47,722 Might be changing in the NBA, too. 757 00:46:53,353 --> 00:46:57,524 While the bulls were on the road their g/I/I took his shot back home. 758 00:46:57,607 --> 00:47:01,236 Jerry k rause again made his plans for next season very clear. 759 00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:02,737 Coach Phil Jackson won't be back, 760 00:47:02,821 --> 00:47:04,614 and with Michael Jordan on record of saying 761 00:47:04,698 --> 00:47:06,825 he won't play for anyone other than Jackson, 762 00:47:06,908 --> 00:47:08,493 krause told the Chicago tribune, 763 00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:12,330 ”if ll/lichae/ chooses to leave because there is another coach here, 764 00:47:12,414 --> 00:47:14,290 then it's his choice, not ours. 765 00:47:14,374 --> 00:47:15,893 We would love to have /I/lichael back. 766 00:47:15,917 --> 00:47:18,128 But Michael is going to have to play for someone else. 767 00:47:18,211 --> 00:47:20,005 It isn't going to be Phil. ” 768 00:47:20,839 --> 00:47:22,525 If Phil's not back, then certainly I'm not back. 769 00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:25,927 So, I mean, you know, it doesn't leave me with any other choices 770 00:47:26,011 --> 00:47:27,345 but not to play next year. 771 00:47:27,429 --> 00:47:29,514 There's absolutely no room at all for you coming back 772 00:47:29,597 --> 00:47:30,797 under any other circumstances? 773 00:47:30,849 --> 00:47:32,392 None. None. None at all. 774 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,125 The bulls were dominating the east. 775 00:47:39,149 --> 00:47:40,668 The east didn't seem to be a question. 776 00:47:40,692 --> 00:47:42,277 The question was out west 777 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,447 with the team that they had met in the finals the year before, Utah. 778 00:47:47,282 --> 00:47:50,869 But keep in mind, this was probably a finals preview. 779 00:47:51,911 --> 00:47:54,122 This is the litmus test. 780 00:47:55,999 --> 00:47:58,168 Good evening. Welcome to the delta center. 781 00:47:58,251 --> 00:47:59,961 And the thing that's really surprising 782 00:48:00,045 --> 00:48:03,673 is the timing of that story by Jerry k rause. 783 00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:07,635 Yeah, dick, unfortunately, it's very cold it's sad 784 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,763 and if you really think about this, 785 00:48:09,846 --> 00:48:13,016 performance and loyalty by the coaches and players 786 00:48:13,099 --> 00:48:15,769 are being just thro wn out the window. 787 00:48:17,687 --> 00:48:20,648 And the bulls starting out solidly, lead 8-2. 788 00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:24,319 Here's rodman, after p/ppen got the loose ball, 789 00:48:24,402 --> 00:48:27,655 and Jordan hits the open shot/ the bulls are doing it all. 790 00:48:27,739 --> 00:48:29,032 It has been all bulls... 791 00:48:29,115 --> 00:48:32,577 Great pass from long/e y to a cutting scottie p/ppen. 792 00:48:33,578 --> 00:48:36,039 And it's a 47-24 lead 793 00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:40,502 the Chicago Bulls are running the jazz wild on the jazz home court. 794 00:48:40,585 --> 00:48:43,004 Loose ball, Karl ll/la/one. 795 00:48:43,088 --> 00:48:44,523 Den-den-Dennis... there it is. 796 00:48:44,547 --> 00:48:46,227 And down goes Malone and rodman, 797 00:48:46,257 --> 00:48:48,134 and a double foul is gonna be called 798 00:48:48,218 --> 00:48:50,446 You could see that this could /gnite something here 799 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:51,679 that we don't need 800 00:48:51,763 --> 00:48:55,100 The jazz with a 7-0 run of their own here, 801 00:48:55,183 --> 00:48:57,519 and it's an 8-point game, believe it or not. 802 00:48:57,602 --> 00:48:59,729 This is as close as the jazz have come. 803 00:49:00,313 --> 00:49:02,524 - /I/lalone over p/ppen. - He's got it. 804 00:49:02,607 --> 00:49:04,192 ”He's got it, ” is right. 805 00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:06,820 - He's UN... - Yeah. Unstoppable. 806 00:49:08,905 --> 00:49:12,575 Yes/ and the jazz have come back b/g/ 807 00:49:12,659 --> 00:49:16,996 standing ovation for the jazz, who had to fight way back in this game. 808 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,751 Utah jazz ending up sweeping the Chicago Bulls this year, 809 00:49:21,835 --> 00:49:23,920 winning here in salt lake city. 810 00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:26,232 But Jerry k rause, the b/g question is, 811 00:49:26,256 --> 00:49:28,484 ”I/I/h y? I/I/h y now, come out with a statement like this, 812 00:49:28,508 --> 00:49:31,320 at the all-star break? ” / mean, this is something for after the season. 813 00:49:31,344 --> 00:49:34,514 You know, / think it's just a bad case of judgment on his part. 814 00:49:34,597 --> 00:49:36,909 Well, Reggie, this looks like a reality check for everybody. 815 00:49:36,933 --> 00:49:38,977 Is this the end of the bulls as we know them? 64445

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