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j“ yea/7 j“
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I do remember being in Vegas with him.
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It was on.
The party was starting right away.
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Mixing it up.
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Bring on the shookers!
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That's whores and sluts
if you're recording.
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- Definitely recording.
- Wow!
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One thing about Dennis,
he had to escape.
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He liked to go out.
He liked to go to clubs.
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We'd go to his favorite restaurant.
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Then we'd go to a nightclub.
Then we'd go to after hours.
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It didn't stop.
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It was definitely an occupational hazard
to be Dennis' girlfriend.
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He was wild.
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J“ /z"s kamikaze time j“
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j“ it's time to blow your mind j“
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j“ it's kamikaze time j“
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suck it down, motherfucker!
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But, to be honest, I didn't realize
what the team's schedule was.
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I didn't know he took a detour.
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Mm-mm.
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He didn't come back on time.
We had to go get his ass out of bed.
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And I'm not gonna say what's in his bed
and where he was and blah, blah, blah.
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There's a knock on the door.
It's Michael Jordan.
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And I hid.
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I didn't want him
to see me like that, so I, like...
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I'm just, like, hiding behind the couch
with covers over me.
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"Come on. We got to get to practice."
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Dennis came back and joined the team.
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And that's the way it went that year.
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I wanted to tell you...
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Not just the mind.
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Michael and scottie accepted me
for who I am and said, "you know what?
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He does what he does,
but he cares a lot."
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I'll go party hard, but I'll work hard.
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I think that we got along so well
because we want to win.
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We want to win a championship.
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A spectacular move!
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And the game's over!
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Chicago stadium is going wild.
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First of all,
there's no backstabbing going on here.
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/t is time for me to move on.
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This will be Phil's last year
as the coach of the bulls.
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Are the expectations way too h/gh 7
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Where do we go from here?
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The only question:
How long can it last?
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After his vacation,
Dennis comes back to practice.
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Phil's now... his whole motive
is to get Dennis back in shape.
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So, we start this drill
called the Indian drill.
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Everybody starts running in a line.
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And Phil blows a whistle.
Whoever's at the back, run to the front.
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Now, you can't stop.
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Whoever's in front controls the pace.
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So, I'm saying, "well, fuck,
this is kind of messed up,"
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because now I'm getting caught up in
"Dennis-getting-in-shape drill,"
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when, in essence,
I hadn't taken a vacation.
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I tell everybody in that group, “look,
whoever gets in the front of that row,
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slow down to a fucking walk.
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We're just gonna
jog and jog and jog and jog."
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So, Steve kerr and jud buechler...
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Shh! They all get to the line,
we just slowly,
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we just running, slowly just running,
slowly just running, and then,
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Dennis takes off. Boom!
Now, he blows the whistle.
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Now, we cannot stop
until we get back in front of Dennis.
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It took us four laps to catch up
to Dennis.
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It was, like, in his psyche.
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He needed to get away.
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But in all honesty,
Dennis was always there.
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He was always on point.
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Phil realized that I was different, man.
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Phil knew me so well,
'cause he knew I...
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So much shit I was doing.
But I had to get my head right.
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But that's what's so cool
about playing with that team,
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and they was all about...
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Anybody needed to do something,
they was all about it.
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And Phil was cool about it.
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Dennis is always a rebel.
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At some point, you know,
he wants to join the group,
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but the other part of him
wants to be autonomous.
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So, we appreciate the fact
that he's a Maverick.
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But, yet, when it comes time
for him to perform,
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he's always on the court for us,
always playing hard for us.
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Dennis and I have this
native American bond between us.
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He comes in one day,
and Dennis and I met in the team room.
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In the team room,
I have a bear-claw necklace,
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a turtle shell that came
from another Indian reservation,
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and various other Indian artifacts.
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And so, Dennis was like, "wow."
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He said, “I have this necklace from
the ponca Indians in Oklahoma.
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I'm hip to that."
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And I say, "Dennis, in their tradition,
and the tradition that I knew,
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you would be a heyoka,
a backward-walking person.
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There were people that were different,
and you're a heyoka.
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So you're this heyoka in this tribe.
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He don't look at me
as a basketball player.
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He look at me as a great friend.
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He realized that I probably needed him
for inspiration.
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He wants to see me persevere.
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I have never met a coach
who was that different and genuine
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when it came to bringing the group
together.
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He had this real interest in
native American history,
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and he would weave that
into our own culture.
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I mean, he brought in zen buddhism
and native American Indian philosophies.
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Everything was about being focused,
playing as one.
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When I was in great falls
as a kid growing up,
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my grandparents had this boardinghouse
with small little cabins.
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And native American people
from the poplar Indian reservation
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used to come,
and they'd have their kids.
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And, so, I started learning more and
more about this native American culture.
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There was a certain negativity
about playing with these kids.
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I didn't feel that at all.
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Cowboys and Indians was a game
that kids played.
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You know, I was always the Indian.
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My dad was a pastor.
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My mother was also a minister.
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And she has an extreme belief
about the second coming of Christ.
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So that was something that was foremost
in your mind in growing up.
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Would you be ready if Christ came
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to be taken as part of that group
that would be raptured?
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My goal was always in conflict.
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I would rather be playing sports
than being on my knees, praying.
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I played basketball from the time
I was a little kid...
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And eventually went
to the university of north Dakota.
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Jackson is having a whale of a n/ght.
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He's scored 28 in the first half
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and has continued the onslaught here
in the second half
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The Knicks drafted me
in the second round.
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And I'd made the all-rookie team,
my rookie season.
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Jackson defensively gets the bail.
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I remember seeing Phil Jackson.
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Jackson knocking it away...
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And he's always smacking guys around.
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He was like an earlier version
of Dennis rodman.
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I was 77 years with the Knicks.
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We had seven good years.
We went to the finals three years.
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White has the bail. Stolen by jackson/
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racing ahead of the field,
no one near him/
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he drives, lays it up...
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And we won two championshios.
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J“ /fee/ free j“
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j“ /can walk down the street
there's no one there j“
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j“ though the pavements
are one huge crowd j“
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Phil and I wrote mavericktogether.
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And in that book,
Phil talks about taking acid.
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And thinking he was a lion,
roaring up and down the beach in la.
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Phil was like a hippie
and different from the NBA fraternity.
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When I was playing as a pro,
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red holzman encouraged me
to think about coaching,
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particularly in Puerto Rico,
where I ended up coaching for a while.
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I spent a lot of the time down there
in the superior league, it was called.
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They played every other day.
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And these players
would just play ferociously.
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There was a local animosity
among these small towns.
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There were fires on your way out of town
and rocks being thrown at your car.
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They'd kill a chicken in a graveyard
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and pour the blood
on the visiting team's bench.
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The town I went to,
quebradillas, was ferocious.
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The mayor, he had actually shot
an official one time with a gun
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and hit him in the lower leg.
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So, his punishment was he wasn't allowed
to go to any more home games
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for the rest of the season.
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But, really,
there's a lot of love about the game,
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and I learned a lot of things
from the process.
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And then I got a call about coaching
over in the cba for the Albany patroons.
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And now introducing
the head coach of the patroons,
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formerly of the New York k nickerbockers,
Phil Jackson.
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Phil Jackson.
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Then in '84,
we won the championship.
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They came together as a group,
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and it's been a great team effort
ever since.
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- I think we're ecstatic right now.
- Whoo!
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After that, the bulls tracked me down,
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and I got up to interview
for an assistant job under Stan albeck.
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Jerry krause and I
had a really good relationship.
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I wanted to bring Phil in.
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He came in, uh... not dressed real well.
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Stan was very conservative,
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and Phil looked
anything but conservative at that point.
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And Stan quickly nixed that idea.
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Two years later, we had an opening.
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And this time, I called Phil
and I told him how to dress
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and how to talk to Doug.
Doug Collins was our coach.
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And I kind of helped Doug
think about it, and we hired Phil.
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Under Doug Collins,
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one of the assistant coaches
was Tex winter.
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Jerry krause had the idea that
Tex was going to be a mentor.
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Doug was gonna follow kind of the things
that he would teach as a coach.
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When I took this job 11 years ago,
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the first person we hired
was Tex winter.
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He's a brilliant man.
The finest offensive mind in basketball.
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The triangle is formed between
fonnard 2, guard 1,
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who has now moved to the corner,
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and center 5,
who forms the apex of the triangle.
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He had a system called "the triangle."
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Jerry said, "I've been listening
to his basketball philosophy for years,
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and he's got the kind of philosophy
I'd like to see happen with this team."
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Doug's philosophy was different.
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Doug would have these plays that always
ended up with Michael Jordan
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being the recipient of the score.
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And Tex was always like,
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"there's a way of playing this game
that's different than that."
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Tex winter would berate Doug about,
"you should institute the triangle."
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Doug would not hear of it.
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Doug finally had heard it enough
and said,
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"I'm tired of hearing that,"
and then the argument escalated a bit,
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and Tex winter
was banned from the bench.
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He wasn't coaching on the floor anymore.
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He was sitting in the corner
and taking notes about the practice.
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Jerry krause
was really unhappy with that.
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During that period of time,
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krause made the decision that
I should work together with Tex winter.
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Phil was picking the brains
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of the best basketball man
I've ever known, in my life,
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and I was watching it.
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And I just thought, "you know what?
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This is getting more
and more interesting all the time."
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Mike, we want you to deny the ball
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so they can't throw the ball in easy
to the blocks.
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So, big man, if your man clears,
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you must tell Michael
that he's alone out there
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so he doesn't get naked
on the back-door situation.
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Midway through my second year,
I sort of felt Phil could be the coach.
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Justsense.
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I just... I mean, it was just feeling.
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Jerry wanted to talk to me.
So I go in and talk.
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He says, "I may have to do something
that's gonna rock this franchise."
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I said, "what?" He says,
"I'm gonna have to fire Doug Collins."
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I said,
"there's gonna be some fucking balls
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to fire a guy that just took us
to the eastern conference final."
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Now, if you're getting ready
for work right now,
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then you're probably not Doug Collins.
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Chicago Bulls head coach was fired
in a surprise move yesterday.
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You know, I got the worst-kept secret
in town sitting next to me.
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You guys, as usual, got us on that one.
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For the last two years,
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Phil Jackson has been a very
integral part of this organization,
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and he's now ready to be a head coach.
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Welcome, coach.
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Thanks, Jerry.
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Have you talked to Michael Jordan yet?
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- Yes, I have.
- What'd he say?
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"Congratulations.
Let's go win a championship."
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Phil took over
and just had a different approach.
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Doug's approach
was more catered to Michael,
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and Phil's approach
was more catered to the team.
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I wasn't a Phil Jackson fan,
you know, when he first came in,
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you know, because he was coming in
to take the ball out of my hands.
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Doug put the ball in my hands.
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Tex winter, his right-hand man,
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had sold him on an offense
that he believed
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would get us out of this
one-on-one type of basketball.
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The triangle offense is set
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so that there's a key pass
that creates motion.
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Then there's 33 different types
of options
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that come out of that single pass.
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Players can do spontaneous,
creative things, using their strengths.
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You know, everybody has an opportunity
to touch the ball,
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but I didn't want bill Cartwright to
have the ball with five seconds left.
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Bounce into cartwr/ght,
shoots over roi/ins. Nope.
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That's not equal-opportunity offense.
That's fuckin' bullshit.
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Oh, my/
Michael Jordan has 54 points/
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sixty points for jordan/
s/xty-nine points for Michael Jordan.
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There was so many times
Tex used to yell at me, saying,
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"move the ball, move the ball."
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He says, "no 'i' in 'team.'"
I say, "there's an 'i' in win."
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I met Michael and I told him
what we were gonna do.
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"Obviously, you've scored 37,
38 points a game last couple years.
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I don't anticipate you're gonna be
the scoring champion in the league.
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The spotlight's on the ball,
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and if you're always the guy
that's gonna have the ball,
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teams can generate
a defense against that,
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which is what's happened with
the pistons the last couple years."
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He said, "I'm not worried about you,
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but we got to find a way to make
everybody else better.
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We got to create other threats."
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I came in the game
as being a point guard,
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but my growth sort of grew me
into a small fonnard.
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The triangle offense allowed me to be
more of what I wanted to be.
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Scottie p/ppen's turnaround/
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scottie kind of developed that
new position called the point-fonnard.
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Instead of, you know,
being in Michael's shadow,
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scottie was starting to blossom
as one of the top players in the NBA.
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Beautiful move by scottie/
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Ll/laking his all-star debut
from the Chicago Bulls, scottie p/ppen.
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Michael Jordan is making
an aoy'ustment to this new philosophy,
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which tries to relieve him
of the offensive burden.
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He realized that him playing
and just scoring 30 points
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wasn't gonna win
the last game of the season.
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I'm not gonna be the type of person
who's very hungry
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to lead the league in scoring once again
or to chase individual accolades.
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He made a conscious effort to say,
"no individual is gonna be the team."
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Right now I'm more or less
geared towards team success.
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That's a special thing to have happen,
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when the largest icon that the NBA's
ever had understands that,
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"I don't have to have the ball
in my hands all the time."
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With the triangle offense,
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certainly, it needed
some little time to adjust,
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for everyone to adjust to it
at their own pace,
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and it took us about a year,
a year or so as a team to do it.
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But by the 1990 playoffs,
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we all felt that we were ready
to beat the Detroit pistons.
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The hurdle that comes up
now is the big one.
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And we know that the challenge
of the Detroit pistons is immense.
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And it's one that we've been waiting for
all season long.
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Chicago was the only team to beat
the pistons in the playoffs last year,
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and they're a deeper
and more balanced team this time around.
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I felt like we were in
a position to win, you know,
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and we pushed them to a game 7
in their building.
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Yeah.
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7'he defending
world champions, the Detroit pistons,
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extended to a seventh game.
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And 27, 500 are gathered here
for a very special afternoon.
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When I got up that morning
and went down for breakfast,
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I had a headache.
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It started feeling like
I wanted to throw up.
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I went to the arena, you know,
did my regular routine, warming up,
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and I was just, like, blind.
I couldn't see.
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Game seven... let's go!
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- You know what time it is.
- Go 110%.
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Y'all know what it is, man.
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Let's go guys. Horse.
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- Yeah.
- You know we gotta go.
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- This is it.
- Let's go.
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All in.
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- All out.
- No doubt. Let's go!
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All right!
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Game seven from the palace.
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Piston ball.
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As the game started, I couldn't focus.
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Everything was blurry.
I was seeing double, black,
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and I just...
I couldn't get my eyesight.
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Pippen is one and five
in the field. One and six.
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I told them, "I can't see."
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And I was taken out of the game.
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He said a migraine.
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I don't... I can't argue the point
that he had a migraine.
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It was just one of those things that,
you know, it was so unfortunate.
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When you can't see
and you're seeing double
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and you want to vomit and you got
to play against Dennis rodman?
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P/ppen passes inside,
laimbeer knocks it a way.
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Four-ten to go. Here's Isiah.
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The plays from the bulls
right now are plays of desperation.
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Guys are trying to do more
than the y're capable of doing,
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and that includes Michael Jordan.
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The lead is 20.
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And they, the Detroit pistons,
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will meet the Portland trail blazers
in a best-of-7
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beginning Tuesday n/ght on CBS.
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Michael Jordan had 37,
and he's with pat o'brien.
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Mike... here with Michael Jordan,
here in the midst of the celebration.
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What are you saying
to the other players, Michael?
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All you can do is wish them good luck.
I mean, you know, we fought hard.
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They were the better team.
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We want to be where they are,
but we still got to wait our turn.
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We still trying to improve our team.
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They were the better team,
and they played better today.
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We were sitting
in the locker room after the game,
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and nothing was said.
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Everyone just sat there for a moment.
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We had the chance to beat them.
We just didn't respond.
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You know, we got to that hill.
We almost looked over the hill.
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I was devastated.
I was absolutely devastated.
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I cried on the bus,
and my father came on and said,
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"look, it's just one game.
Bounce back, come back next year."
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I remember losing to the pistons.
Damn pistons.
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Now, that shit hurt.
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You couldn't deny
that they were a great team.
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We had to either change
something about ourself
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or we weren't gonna beat them.
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Can't touch this!
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- Congratulations.
- Can't touch this!
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Thanks, pat.
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After that game,
instead of us all going on vacation,
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we all showed up
and we started working out.
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And everybody,
starting with Michael, changed.
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Before the pistons,
Michael didn't weight train.
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He didn't go in much for
strength training.
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And after getting the shit
beat out of him by the pistons,
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finally decided,
"I got to put some muscle on."
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I was getting brutally beaten up.
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And I wanted to administer pain.
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You know, I wanted to start,
you know, fighting back.
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It's very difficult to add muscle
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for an athlete that's
constantly burning calories
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running up and down all the time.
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We started at 200.
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We added five pounds
until he got to 215.
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I put it in just to get myself
physically strong enough
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to go against Detroit.
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I was a slim and skinny kid,
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and now that I put on a couple pounds,
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I can throw my weight around
a little bit more now.
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I would give him
a certain amount of reps to do.
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He would never stop at that number.
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If I asked for six,
I know he was gonna do 12.
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He got to the point
where he was just like,
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"instead of them dishing it to me,
I'm gonna dish it back to them."
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Which ate at me.
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It did. It did.
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My energy started to gear towards
my teammates and pushing them to excel.
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Michael forced the hand
of a lot of the players
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to really dedicate themselves
to off-season training.
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Like, "okay, we're gonna spend
the summer dedicated to this proposition
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that we're not gonna be runners-up.
We're gonna be champions."
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Michael was on us.
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No mistakes allowed.
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Man, I see a screaming devil.
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You make a mistake,
he's gonna scream at you.
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He's gonna belittle you.
He demands almost perfection.
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Man, when you see your leader
working extremely hard in practice,
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you feel like, "oh, man,
if I don't give it my all,
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I shouldn't be here."
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He taught me how to stay in the gym,
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and he spent a lot of time starting
to build the confidence that I needed.
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Pippen became my focal point.
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More than any other player,
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scottie benefited from playing
with Michael Jordan,
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because scottie had
this raw athletic ability.
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Two-hand dunk by p/ppen/
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what he didn't have was what
Michael brought every day,
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which was the drive to be
the very best every single day,
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the mental focus of the game.
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The thing about pip is, you know,
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if you stand next to him,
you make him stronger.
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All the Detroit times,
when rodman wanted to pick on him,
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he needed someone there
to stand there and say,
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"hey, look, I'll fight with you.
Just fight."
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Scottie and I bonded,
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you know, because he felt like, okay,
he has someone that he can count on.
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And I'm looking at, "okay, I got someone
who I can actually count on."
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And then Horace came right behind that.
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During the time
that the pistons reigned over us,
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every time they'd do something to us,
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we would complain to the referee
or we would try to go back at them.
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Horace used to get beaten up.
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He got Grant
with an elbow in the side...
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And he would come back whining.
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And I say, "don't fucking whine.
Don't let 'em see you whine.
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That's when they know they got you.“
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With them being more mentally
dominant than we were,
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they knew, as soon as
we start complaining, they had us.
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And they did.
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Horace Grant has got
to realize this game is not over.
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You can't give the world champions
anything.
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Just be strong. You know,
we're gonna beat these bullies.
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In '91, the bulls were determined
to be the tougher team.
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The pain of losing to Detroit again
the year before brought a fury
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into that season that they had not had.
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Jordan knocks the ball out of bounds.
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No, he didn't.
He saved it in play to p/ppen.
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What a spectacular defensive play
by jordan/
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here's a pass stolen by Jordan.
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Being around Michael
every day like that...
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It just brought it out of us.
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Scottie evolved. Horace evolved.
I evolved.
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It was just a great feeling.
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We had matured in a lot of ways,
physically, mentally.
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Jordan dribbles out,
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a hook pass to p/ppen underneath
for the dunk.
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It was time for us to become
the top team in the game.
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And now, the starting lineup
for your Chicago Bulls...
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Everybody in Chicago
hated the pistons.
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This was personal.
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Like, if anybody says
it wasn't personal, it was personal.
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Game one of the best of se ven.
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I didn't even really wanna deal
with my relatives
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in Detroit during that period.
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I didn't want to go stay with them.
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My first cousins, "yeah, whatever.
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You know, we don't like you right now."
They didn't like us.
472
00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:21,177
The opening up. Game one.
473
00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,529
We had our character challenged
474
00:29:22,553 --> 00:29:24,472
the last two years and we failed,
475
00:29:24,555 --> 00:29:29,518
but that third year,
we put them in our rear-view mirror.
476
00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:33,064
Bill laimbeer. Jordan with the steal.
477
00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:35,066
Jordan./ -
478
00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:36,400
He 'i/ go to the foul line.
479
00:29:36,484 --> 00:29:39,338
Michael Jordan is not
gonna back down from anyone right now.
480
00:29:39,362 --> 00:29:40,562
He's the leader for that team.
481
00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:42,698
He understands what to expect
during the series.
482
00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:45,326
He's gonna hold his ground,
make a statement.
483
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,583
I thought we were a good enough team
484
00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:57,046
to at least make the series
a little bit more competitive,
485
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,297
and we didn't.
486
00:29:58,381 --> 00:30:00,108
P/ppen against I/innie
up the fight side...
487
00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:01,634
To the baseline.
488
00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:03,844
Fills it up and a foul/
489
00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:13,396
All right, Ahmad
game four of the best of se ven.
490
00:30:14,772 --> 00:30:18,192
Nice fake by Jordan...
Goes to the scoop/
491
00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:24,657
p/ppen... oh/ beautiful move by...
Scottie p/ppen off to a fast start.
492
00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,367
He has 70 points.
493
00:30:28,452 --> 00:30:30,329
You know something's coming.
494
00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:32,373
This team is desperate.
495
00:30:32,456 --> 00:30:35,501
They've done everything they can.
Now they're really desperate.
496
00:30:36,711 --> 00:30:39,213
Armstrong and cra/g Hodges
in the back court.
497
00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:42,008
Clitflevingston, bill cartwr/ght,
and scottie p/ppen up front.
498
00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:44,969
Beautiful back-door pass for p/ppen.
And he is walloped
499
00:30:45,052 --> 00:30:47,179
and that will be a flagrant foul.
500
00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:50,307
And it's getting very,
very tough out there.
501
00:30:51,058 --> 00:30:53,269
Dennis rodman pushed scottie,
502
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:57,982
and could have injured him
pretty severely.
503
00:30:58,065 --> 00:31:01,944
It was clearly a flagrant foul.
504
00:31:02,278 --> 00:31:05,823
That's a clear-cut
cheap shot, no question. Clear cut.
505
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:08,367
Scottie pippen was racked up.
506
00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:13,247
When pippen
didn't respond to that abuse,
507
00:31:13,956 --> 00:31:15,958
there's nothing they could do
to beat us then.
508
00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:24,133
Scottie was unshakable.
Didn't even want a band-aid.
509
00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:26,302
When we saw that, it was over.
510
00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:29,055
You know, it was just like,
"okay, it's a foul.
511
00:31:29,138 --> 00:31:32,725
Um, let's go and finish kicking
their ass and, you know..."
512
00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:34,643
And put them out of their misery.
513
00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:37,271
Jordan rebounds. He has p/ppen.
514
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:45,112
Chicago Bulls about to put
the pistons away in four.
515
00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:48,240
And p/ppen able to feed it
off to jordan/
516
00:31:48,324 --> 00:31:50,364
And Chuck is now clearing the bench.
517
00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:53,370
Miller genuine draft player of the game,
518
00:31:53,454 --> 00:31:55,915
scottie p/ppen of the Chicago Bulls.
519
00:31:55,998 --> 00:31:57,792
We were tasting victory
520
00:31:57,875 --> 00:32:02,838
over a team that just kicked your butt
for the last three or four years.
521
00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:09,345
I mean, the gratification...
You truly cannot put it into words.
522
00:32:11,555 --> 00:32:12,890
It is all over.
523
00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:21,440
That's the only time that I think
I'd ever been swept in a series.
524
00:32:21,524 --> 00:32:24,360
I was normally the one
doing the sweeping.
525
00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:30,991
Their time had arrived,
and ours was over.
526
00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:34,787
As we're coming out of the game,
527
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:38,624
laimbeer said, "you know,
we're not shaking their hands.
528
00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:40,918
This is how we're leaving."
529
00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:44,797
7'he pistons wasting
no time in getting out of here,
530
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,757
as they are headed off ..
531
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,402
We didn't shake hands.
No, we just walked off the court.
532
00:32:49,426 --> 00:32:51,679
"Fuck you guys.
Thank you for kicking our ass."
533
00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:55,307
They left the bench
although there's 7.9 seconds remaining.
534
00:32:55,391 --> 00:32:57,351
7'he pistons just left.
535
00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:59,287
I think it was very difficult for them
536
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,981
because they were two-time champions.
537
00:33:02,064 --> 00:33:05,192
But, you know, there certainly
has to be some respect.
538
00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:09,029
Straight-up bitches.
539
00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,952
"Now, we just kicked your ass.
Go ahead and go."
540
00:33:15,536 --> 00:33:19,373
Detroit had a similar thing with Boston
that we had with them.
541
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:21,375
They had to overcome Boston
and they did.
542
00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:22,751
And I can still remember...
543
00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:25,421
It was the first time that, uh...
544
00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:26,630
Detroit beat them,
545
00:33:26,714 --> 00:33:29,675
and I can see Kevin mchale
coming out to half court
546
00:33:29,758 --> 00:33:31,594
and shaking hands and things like that.
547
00:33:33,387 --> 00:33:37,433
No. Adrian dantley
was shooting a free throw,
548
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:42,688
and the Boston celtics were walking off
during the game.
549
00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:45,107
And I grabbed mchale,
550
00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:51,238
and then he stopped
as he was walking off the floor.
551
00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:53,449
That's how they left the floor.
552
00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:56,493
And to us, that was okay.
553
00:33:57,578 --> 00:34:04,168
Knowing what we know now,
in the aftermath of what took place,
554
00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:05,544
I think we would have stopped
555
00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:08,047
and said, "hey, congratulations,"
like they do now.
556
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:11,133
"Hey, congratulations. Love ya, man.
Love ya. Hey, congratulations."
557
00:34:11,217 --> 00:34:13,969
I mean, we would have did it.
Of course we would have done it.
558
00:34:14,637 --> 00:34:20,184
But during that period of time,
that's just not how it was passed.
559
00:34:20,267 --> 00:34:21,727
When you lost, you left the floor.
560
00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:23,437
That was it.
561
00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:30,569
Well, I know it's all bullshit.
562
00:34:31,278 --> 00:34:34,031
Whatever he says now, you know
it wasn't his true actions then.
563
00:34:34,114 --> 00:34:36,200
You know, he has time enough
to think about it
564
00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:37,743
or the reaction of the public
565
00:34:37,826 --> 00:34:40,162
that's kind of changed
his perspective of it.
566
00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:43,624
You can show me anything you want.
567
00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,543
There's no way you can convince me
he wasn't an asshole.
568
00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:51,090
Knowing what we know now,
569
00:34:51,173 --> 00:34:55,052
in the aftermath of what took place...
570
00:34:55,469 --> 00:35:00,683
But during that period of time,
that's just not how it was passed
571
00:35:01,225 --> 00:35:02,268
it just wasn't.
572
00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:06,146
And you can go back and you can look
at any of those old games or whatever.
573
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:07,648
When you lost, you left the floor.
574
00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:14,071
All you gotta do is you go back
to us losing in game seven.
575
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:16,657
I shook everybody's hand.
576
00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:21,203
Two years in a row, we shook
their hands when they beat us.
577
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:25,708
There is a certain respect to the game
that we paid to them.
578
00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,920
And that's sportsmanship,
no matter how much it hurts.
579
00:35:30,379 --> 00:35:32,339
And believe me, it fucking hurt.
580
00:35:32,423 --> 00:35:34,425
But they didn't have to shake our hands.
581
00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:37,970
We knew we whupped their ass already,
we'd gotten past them,
582
00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:40,889
and that was the most...
To me, that was better than, you know,
583
00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:42,933
in some ways, winning the championship.
584
00:35:51,525 --> 00:35:55,070
Sweep, sweep, sweep,
sweep, sweep, sweep!
585
00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,490
J“ lthrow my tape on j“
586
00:35:58,574 --> 00:35:59,574
j“ then / watch ya j“
587
00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:00,826
j“ 7'hree seconds laterj“
588
00:36:00,909 --> 00:36:02,578
j“ / got ya shakin' your head j“
589
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:04,079
j“ dancinj instead of sittin'j“
590
00:36:04,163 --> 00:36:04,997
j“ the rhymes kick j“
591
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,333
j“ the beats hittin ' you
just like a home run j“
592
00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:08,876
j“ slammin ' like a slam dunk j“
593
00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,878
j“ riding the wave
James brown gave funk j“
594
00:36:10,961 --> 00:36:12,881
j“ it happened to James
like it happened to me j“
595
00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:16,467
j“ how you think it feel to see
another emcee getting paid? J“
596
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:17,718
j“ usin ' my rap style j“
597
00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:20,012
j“ and I'm playin'
the background mean while j“
598
00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:21,305
j“ lain't with that j“
599
00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:22,556
j“ you can forget that j“
600
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:23,724
j“ you took my style j“
601
00:36:23,807 --> 00:36:24,683
j" I'm takin ' it back I”
602
00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:26,935
j“ coming back like
return of the jedi j“
603
00:36:27,019 --> 00:36:29,188
j“ sucker emcees in the place
that said / j“
604
00:36:29,271 --> 00:36:30,832
j“ could only rock rhymes
only rock crowds j“
605
00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:32,858
j“ but never rock records j“
606
00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:34,401
j“ how ya like me now? J“
607
00:36:34,485 --> 00:36:39,281
Go, Jerry!
608
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:43,869
J“ how ya like me now? J“
609
00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:45,412
j“ funk, funk, funkj“
610
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:48,957
j“ funk, funkj“
611
00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:54,463
j“ now brothers are riding me
like a pony j“
612
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,965
j“ to a party, watch me
stand around, and jock me j“
613
00:36:57,049 --> 00:36:59,093
j“ become a rapper, then try to rock me j“
614
00:37:07,434 --> 00:37:08,936
J“ how ya like me now? J“
615
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,119
In sports,
616
00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:29,415
the stage is set for the air-magic show
in the NBA finals.
617
00:37:29,498 --> 00:37:31,542
Starting Sunday,
it will be Michael Jordan
618
00:37:31,625 --> 00:37:32,459
and the Chicago Bulls
619
00:37:32,543 --> 00:37:35,087
against magic Johnson and the la Lakers.
620
00:37:36,547 --> 00:37:38,307
You know, when you're a competitor,
621
00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:40,175
you want to play against the best.
622
00:37:40,259 --> 00:37:43,804
I played against Larry and I've always
wanted to play against Michael.
623
00:37:45,347 --> 00:37:48,308
Up until that point,
there was a stigma that Michael Jordan,
624
00:37:48,392 --> 00:37:50,227
all he does is win scoring titles.
625
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:51,645
He never wins championships.
626
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:56,442
That was my chance
to get in the category
627
00:37:56,525 --> 00:37:58,485
of Larry bird and magic Johnson.
628
00:38:09,538 --> 00:38:11,248
The NBA is a league of stars,
629
00:38:11,331 --> 00:38:14,918
and none shine brighter than
magic Johnson and Michael Jordan.
630
00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:17,546
And while much has been said
about their respective teams,
631
00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:20,716
nothing has been more anticipated
than their individual matchup.
632
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:28,432
And we 're set for the start of game one.
633
00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:31,226
The opening up controlled
by the la Lakers.
634
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:35,439
And magic Johnson moves across
against Michael Jordan.
635
00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:38,942
You know, we were nervous.
You know, the first time.
636
00:38:39,026 --> 00:38:40,486
And we didn't even play well.
637
00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:42,422
And now,
ll/lagic got it out for I/I/orthy...
638
00:38:42,446 --> 00:38:44,448
What a play/ magic Johnson!
639
00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,992
You know, Sam Perkins
hits a three at the end.
640
00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:47,993
He's got it/
641
00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:49,995
And the bulls lose game one.
642
00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:53,040
Everybody, including me, goes, "okay,
the Lakers are gonna win this thing."
643
00:38:53,457 --> 00:38:55,542
They beat us on our home court.
644
00:38:55,626 --> 00:38:58,337
But in our minds,
we had a chance to beat these guys
645
00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:59,880
and we didn't even play good.
646
00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:01,715
So we were looking foward to game two.
647
00:39:01,798 --> 00:39:06,136
We are set for game two
of the NBA finals.
648
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:08,972
So, game two, Jordan goes nuts.
649
00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:10,724
Over Scott.
650
00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:12,893
Michael Jordan on fire.
651
00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:17,689
He's got it. Twelve stra/ght field goals
for Michael jordan/
652
00:39:17,773 --> 00:39:20,776
look away, to levingston... Jordan...
653
00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:26,365
Oh/ a spectacular mo ve
by Michael jordan/
654
00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:29,952
that's 73 consecutive field goals/
655
00:39:36,792 --> 00:39:39,112
The change
of putting p/ppen on magic Johnson
656
00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:40,462
rather than Michael Jordan...
657
00:39:40,546 --> 00:39:43,107
Magic Johnson's the greatest
point guard I've ever seen,
658
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:46,051
and scottie pippen was picking
magic Johnson up full court.
659
00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:48,929
Nobody did that.
660
00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,241
Scottie accepted that challenge,
661
00:39:51,265 --> 00:39:53,642
and I knew what scottie was gonna do.
662
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:55,602
I see it in practice all the time.
663
00:39:55,686 --> 00:39:58,313
He gets up in your face,
and he harasses you,
664
00:39:58,397 --> 00:39:59,940
and pip never let him get started.
665
00:40:04,486 --> 00:40:07,990
Scottie p/ppen did a tremendous job
666
00:40:08,073 --> 00:40:10,242
in defending against ll/lagic...
667
00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:14,329
And once we did that in game two,
we never looked back.
668
00:40:14,413 --> 00:40:16,498
Jordan around divac.
669
00:40:17,457 --> 00:40:23,505
Chicago Bulls take a 2—7 lead
in the best of se ven.
670
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:27,426
And teagle now one for six,
and it leads to this.
671
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:32,139
The Chicago Bulls come away
with a resounding victory.
672
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,226
In command virtually all the way.
673
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:42,274
And it's this simple,
the Lakers have to win three in a row.
674
00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,318
Game 5 moments away.
675
00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:46,695
Hello, everybody. I'm Bob costas.
676
00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,822
This is the Larry o'brien trophy.
677
00:40:48,905 --> 00:40:51,366
All indications are that,
by evening's end,
678
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:53,619
it'll be in the possession
of the Chicago Bulls.
679
00:40:56,455 --> 00:41:01,627
Game five was a great back-and-forth,
back-and-forth, back-and-forth game.
680
00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:04,129
Ll/lagic tires for Smith...
681
00:41:04,212 --> 00:41:06,256
Good recovery. It counts/
682
00:41:07,007 --> 00:41:08,759
Lakers with a one-point lead
683
00:41:09,259 --> 00:41:11,303
Jordan with a gorgeous move.
684
00:41:11,386 --> 00:41:13,055
7'he bulls lead it by three.
685
00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:14,556
Il/lagic.
686
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,224
Dumps it off
687
00:41:16,308 --> 00:41:21,271
after three,
the bulls and the Lakers are tied at 80.
688
00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:27,027
So, the fourth quarter,
it's a precarious lead.
689
00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:32,407
So during a time-out, Phil asks Michael,
"m.J., who's open?"
690
00:41:32,491 --> 00:41:33,659
And he goes, "paxson."
691
00:41:33,742 --> 00:41:35,502
He goes, "all right, then.
Get him the ball."
692
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:38,497
Run around to the point.
693
00:41:44,419 --> 00:41:46,338
Phil said it, you know, forcefully.
694
00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:48,965
"Paxson is open. Get him the ball."
695
00:41:49,049 --> 00:41:50,884
And I started looking for paxson.
696
00:41:50,967 --> 00:41:53,553
Everybody, you know,
in the world's expecting Jordan
697
00:41:53,637 --> 00:41:55,430
to force something
through a double-team.
698
00:41:55,514 --> 00:41:56,866
Therein the foul-line area wide open.
699
00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,476
He doesn't do it. He draws and dishes.
700
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,019
Paxson open again.
701
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:05,399
He trusts his teammate to make the shot.
702
00:42:05,482 --> 00:42:10,362
Once pax hits that first shot, I said,
"oh, okay. Fine. Let me do this again."
703
00:42:10,445 --> 00:42:12,072
Penetrate, find pax,
704
00:42:12,155 --> 00:42:14,801
and he just kept hitting them,
kept hitting them, kept hitting them.
705
00:42:14,825 --> 00:42:17,202
A gain/ e/ghteen for paxson/
706
00:42:17,285 --> 00:42:20,455
that was exactly what Phil was trying
to get Michael to understand
707
00:42:20,539 --> 00:42:23,125
and believe in over the couple years
is that,
708
00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:24,560
"hey, these other guys
can help you out."
709
00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:27,629
It is a two-point lead for Chicago.
710
00:42:28,255 --> 00:42:32,092
Paxson. Yes/ John paxson again.
711
00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:38,557
And the Chicago Bulls have won
their first-e ver NBA championsh/p.
712
00:42:52,863 --> 00:42:55,157
Yes! Yes! Yes!
713
00:43:13,049 --> 00:43:14,301
That was wonderful.
714
00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:16,636
- Scottie.
- Yes!
715
00:43:17,304 --> 00:43:19,431
Whoo! Whoo!
716
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,855
When you get to that
finish line and you know that you won...
717
00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:30,692
All those emotions that you wrapped up
into it, you can just kind of let go.
718
00:43:35,572 --> 00:43:36,615
I mean, everybody knows...
719
00:43:36,698 --> 00:43:40,911
Has the picture in their mind of when we
beat Cleveland on that last shot
720
00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:43,663
and he's punching the air
and he's all excited.
721
00:43:43,747 --> 00:43:47,501
That's who we knew,
the competitive Michael Jordan.
722
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,880
The win-at-all-cost Michael Jordan.
723
00:43:53,799 --> 00:43:56,468
Sometimes we'd question
whether he was human,
724
00:43:56,551 --> 00:43:58,428
whether he had feelings.
725
00:43:59,221 --> 00:44:03,558
Just a guy that was totally
focused on one thing and one thing only.
726
00:44:03,642 --> 00:44:07,813
The only emotion we had ever seen
out of him was anger or frustration.
727
00:44:07,896 --> 00:44:11,233
We were literally stunned
to see those emotions.
728
00:44:18,782 --> 00:44:23,453
And when they beat us,
we met in between both locker rooms,
729
00:44:23,537 --> 00:44:27,541
and he just put his arms
and just started crying.
730
00:44:27,624 --> 00:44:31,127
He was so happy that he had won,
that he busted through.
731
00:44:31,211 --> 00:44:35,757
That was a special moment for him
and myself.
732
00:44:35,841 --> 00:44:37,425
It's a beautiful feeling.
733
00:44:37,509 --> 00:44:39,695
If you're gonna lose,
you're gonna lose to them, you know,
734
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,849
and I'MMA lose to Michael.
And that's how it should be.
735
00:44:45,392 --> 00:44:46,518
At last,
736
00:44:46,601 --> 00:44:50,939
I fit somewhere in the category
of Larry bird and magic Johnson.
737
00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:27,142
No, we're here.
Don't show it to anybody.
738
00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:28,225
Let me show it.
739
00:45:29,644 --> 00:45:30,729
Yeah.
740
00:45:31,396 --> 00:45:32,939
Denver. Denver.
741
00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:37,193
How about them broncos?
742
00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:39,988
Hey, Eric!
743
00:45:40,071 --> 00:45:41,239
Cheesehead!
744
00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:43,825
Security.
745
00:45:44,242 --> 00:45:46,411
- Yeah?
- Security.
746
00:45:51,374 --> 00:45:53,209
Oh, my! Hey.
747
00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:54,836
Hey, don't say that on camera, yo.
748
00:46:02,677 --> 00:46:05,221
Hey, m. M. M, come on. Hey, m.
749
00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:11,311
M, that's messed up.
750
00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,284
Hey, hey, Phil, you can't work
for the media and be on this plane.
751
00:46:26,368 --> 00:46:27,494
Right here? See this.
752
00:46:27,577 --> 00:46:29,621
The highest paid media guy in the world.
753
00:46:32,415 --> 00:46:36,378
No, he wishes, though.
He wishes he does. Believe me.
754
00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:41,549
The afc finally won.
755
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:45,470
It's actually kind of, like,
a sign of times are changing.
756
00:46:45,553 --> 00:46:47,722
Might be changing in the NBA, too.
757
00:46:53,353 --> 00:46:57,524
While the bulls were on the
road their g/I/I took his shot back home.
758
00:46:57,607 --> 00:47:01,236
Jerry k rause again made his plans
for next season very clear.
759
00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:02,737
Coach Phil Jackson won't be back,
760
00:47:02,821 --> 00:47:04,614
and with Michael Jordan
on record of saying
761
00:47:04,698 --> 00:47:06,825
he won't play for anyone
other than Jackson,
762
00:47:06,908 --> 00:47:08,493
krause told the Chicago tribune,
763
00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:12,330
”if ll/lichae/ chooses to leave
because there is another coach here,
764
00:47:12,414 --> 00:47:14,290
then it's his choice, not ours.
765
00:47:14,374 --> 00:47:15,893
We would love to have /I/lichael back.
766
00:47:15,917 --> 00:47:18,128
But Michael is going to have to play
for someone else.
767
00:47:18,211 --> 00:47:20,005
It isn't going to be Phil. ”
768
00:47:20,839 --> 00:47:22,525
If Phil's not back,
then certainly I'm not back.
769
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:25,927
So, I mean, you know, it doesn't
leave me with any other choices
770
00:47:26,011 --> 00:47:27,345
but not to play next year.
771
00:47:27,429 --> 00:47:29,514
There's absolutely no room at all
for you coming back
772
00:47:29,597 --> 00:47:30,797
under any other circumstances?
773
00:47:30,849 --> 00:47:32,392
None. None. None at all.
774
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,125
The bulls
were dominating the east.
775
00:47:39,149 --> 00:47:40,668
The east didn't seem to be a question.
776
00:47:40,692 --> 00:47:42,277
The question was out west
777
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,447
with the team that they had met in
the finals the year before, Utah.
778
00:47:47,282 --> 00:47:50,869
But keep in mind,
this was probably a finals preview.
779
00:47:51,911 --> 00:47:54,122
This is the litmus test.
780
00:47:55,999 --> 00:47:58,168
Good evening.
Welcome to the delta center.
781
00:47:58,251 --> 00:47:59,961
And the thing that's really surprising
782
00:48:00,045 --> 00:48:03,673
is the timing of that story
by Jerry k rause.
783
00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:07,635
Yeah, dick, unfortunately,
it's very cold it's sad
784
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,763
and if you really think about this,
785
00:48:09,846 --> 00:48:13,016
performance and loyalty
by the coaches and players
786
00:48:13,099 --> 00:48:15,769
are being just thro wn out the window.
787
00:48:17,687 --> 00:48:20,648
And the bulls
starting out solidly, lead 8-2.
788
00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:24,319
Here's rodman,
after p/ppen got the loose ball,
789
00:48:24,402 --> 00:48:27,655
and Jordan hits the open shot/
the bulls are doing it all.
790
00:48:27,739 --> 00:48:29,032
It has been all bulls...
791
00:48:29,115 --> 00:48:32,577
Great pass from long/e y
to a cutting scottie p/ppen.
792
00:48:33,578 --> 00:48:36,039
And it's a 47-24 lead
793
00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:40,502
the Chicago Bulls are running
the jazz wild on the jazz home court.
794
00:48:40,585 --> 00:48:43,004
Loose ball, Karl ll/la/one.
795
00:48:43,088 --> 00:48:44,523
Den-den-Dennis... there it is.
796
00:48:44,547 --> 00:48:46,227
And down goes Malone and rodman,
797
00:48:46,257 --> 00:48:48,134
and a double foul is gonna be called
798
00:48:48,218 --> 00:48:50,446
You could see that this could
/gnite something here
799
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:51,679
that we don't need
800
00:48:51,763 --> 00:48:55,100
The jazz with a 7-0 run
of their own here,
801
00:48:55,183 --> 00:48:57,519
and it's an 8-point game,
believe it or not.
802
00:48:57,602 --> 00:48:59,729
This is as close as the jazz have come.
803
00:49:00,313 --> 00:49:02,524
- /I/lalone over p/ppen.
- He's got it.
804
00:49:02,607 --> 00:49:04,192
”He's got it, ” is right.
805
00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:06,820
- He's UN...
- Yeah. Unstoppable.
806
00:49:08,905 --> 00:49:12,575
Yes/ and the jazz have come back b/g/
807
00:49:12,659 --> 00:49:16,996
standing ovation for the jazz,
who had to fight way back in this game.
808
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,751
Utah jazz ending up sweeping
the Chicago Bulls this year,
809
00:49:21,835 --> 00:49:23,920
winning here in salt lake city.
810
00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:26,232
But Jerry k rause, the b/g question is,
811
00:49:26,256 --> 00:49:28,484
”I/I/h y? I/I/h y now, come out
with a statement like this,
812
00:49:28,508 --> 00:49:31,320
at the all-star break? ” / mean,
this is something for after the season.
813
00:49:31,344 --> 00:49:34,514
You know, / think it's
just a bad case of judgment on his part.
814
00:49:34,597 --> 00:49:36,909
Well, Reggie, this looks like
a reality check for everybody.
815
00:49:36,933 --> 00:49:38,977
Is this the end of the bulls
as we know them?
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