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Narrator: Ptolemy Dean
believes in the power of art
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in architecture.
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Architect, sketcher, painter,
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restorer of buildings,
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co-presenter of the television
series 'Restoration',
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Surveyor of the Fabric
of Westminster Abbey,
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he is inspired by the work
of Wren and Hawksmoor.
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His latest project was born
on the train.
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On the 08:00 to London Bridge,
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Ptolemy Dean sketched a scheme
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for the first major addition
to Westminster Abbey
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in 250 years, a stair tower,
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that allows visitors to see
a secret part of the Abbey
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hidden for centuries.
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- When you're sketching
this thing, you know,
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how does it work,
how does it work?
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And of course, it suddenly came.
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In fact, I can remember
where it came.
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It came between Tunbridge
High Brooms.
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[piano music]
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[piano music continues]
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[classical music]
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Narrator: It's been at the heart
of the nation
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for over 1,000 years.
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William the Conqueror
was crowned King of England
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on this site in 1066.
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But Westminster Abbey
as we know it
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was built in the middle
of the 13th century,
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started in the reign
of Henry III,
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paused after 25 years
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and completed
over 100 years later
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when Richard II
was on the throne.
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All the coronations of English
monarchs have been held here.
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The tomb of the Unknown Warrior
lies in the nave.
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It's the burial place
of prime ministers and poets.
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And it's imprinted
in our collective memory
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through the scenes of countless
Royal weddings.
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In living memory,
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the Abbey has seen
the coronations of George VI
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in 1937...
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..and in 1953,
his daughter, Elizabeth II.
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It was the first coronation
to be televised,
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Richard Dimbleby commenting
from a seat
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high above the nave
in the triforium,
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a gallery that runs around
the inside of the Abbey
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52 feet above the floor.
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And where the BBC's famous
narrator perched
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was never on the Abbey tour...
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..until now.
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When I was appointed in 2012,
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the Abbey had already decided
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that they wanted to reclaim
these triforium gallery spaces
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for an exhibition area.
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They had worked out whether
the floor could be made level,
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which it could.
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They'd worked out whether
the pipes could be diverted.
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There was lots of pipes here
and they could.
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They'd worked out the roof
needed to be recovered
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and they had done all that.
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They also worked out
that there was one place
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where you could create
a new lift
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and staircase access tower.
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which is behind us over there.
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One place where there was
no window in the wall,
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one place where you can make
a new entrance.
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When it came to working out
how that tower would look,
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there had been a pause.
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So when I was appointed in 2012,
they said,
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"We've got everything ready
for this triforium gallery
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"but the access tower and lift
await some attention."
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So they said,
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"Would you like to do
that commission
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"as part of your appointment
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"as Surveyor of the Fabric
to Westminster?"
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and I said,
"Well, of course, why not?"
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Narrator: What's remarkable
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about Ptolemy Dean's
major intervention
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is that it's the first
for 250 years.
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He's walking in the footsteps
of Sir Christopher Wren,
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whose position
as Surveyor of the Fabric
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at Westminster Abbey
he now holds.
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Wren's wooden model
of his design
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for a central crossing tower
and spire
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is on display in the triforium.
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It was never built.
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But he did oversee major
restoration of the stonework
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and roof of this great church
at the end of the 17th century.
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The Abbey's two Western Towers
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were built by the architect
Nicholas Hawksmoor
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and completed in 1745.
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After that,
apart from some rebuilding
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by Sir Giles Gilbert Scott,
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the man who gave us Bankside,
Battersea Power Station
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and the red telephone box,
nothing.
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I became Dean in December 2006
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and had a series of meetings,
obviously,
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with all the sort of
senior staff,
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including our archaeologist,
Warwick Rodwell.
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And he said, "You know,
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"there's an extraordinary
space up there
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"which is not being used
at the moment properly."
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Well, there was a sort of
collection of stone up here,
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actually, various bits
and pieces.
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But there was nothing
substantial.
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So I came up and looked.
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And I essentially
agreed with him
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that we ought to do something.
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This is a most amazing,
astonishing space.
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Narrator: The job of creating
the displays in the triforium
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which would eventually be named
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the 'Queens Diamond
Jubilee Galleries'
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was given to design experts
MUMA.
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But the challenge of getting
visitors to them
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was given to Ptolemy Dean.
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No design committee,
no focus groups,
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but a simple faith
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in an architect known
for his sketches
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and watercolours
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and his respect
for ancient buildings.
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He's a brilliant architect
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who has an absolutely passionate
sense of place...
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..and enormous respect
for historic buildings.
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So what he's produced
in the Weston Tower
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is something which...
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..you could say is completely
out of keeping
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with the rest of the Abbey,
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because it's glass
and it's wood and lead.
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Actually, it fits in
so beautifully.
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It's tucked in behind
a great flying buttress.
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It fits very beautifully.
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And it's absolutely gorgeous
in terms of its detail.
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[classical music]
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Narrator: Ptolemy Dean
sketches constantly,
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recording the world around him
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as he practices architecture
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from his base
in London's East End.
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He is passionate about the city,
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its old buildings,
the grain of its streets.
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He regularly joins campaigners
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to help save buildings
under threat
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and they use his watercolours
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to show people
what they are about to lose.
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Ptolemy narrates:
Drawing is very important.
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When you go to a site
for the first time,
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you need to go there
and really look at it,
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look at it very hard.
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And actually, also,
you need to listen to it.
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And one of the nicest things to
do is if you sit down
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or stand up and draw something,
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you really do have to
look at it,
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look at the relationships
between the buildings.
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You look at the light,
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the play of light
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and then you sort of hear it
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and you feel the atmosphere
of it.
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If I don't draw a building site,
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whatever the site is,
when I visit it,
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I find it very difficult
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to formulate any kind
of thought about it.
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I think the drawing part
is a sort of essential way
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of looking and understanding
and sort of feeling the place.
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The drawing is the key thing.
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It's the process of looking.
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It's the process of really
thinking about it.
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So, for instance at Westminster,
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I sat against the parliamentary
concrete bollard
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outside Parliament
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and drew the view
of that future tower site
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before we did the work.
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It was then that you realised
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the pointed roof
of the chapter house,
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the screening effect
of the London Planetree,
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the regular rhythm
of the buttresses
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and pinnacles
of the Henry VII Chapel,
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and of course, the rotated
square pattern
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of the Henry VII Chapel,
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which ultimately came to be
in the finished design.
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And you realise that when you
stand there drawing it,
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that you have to have
a building with a solution
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that abided by those Westminster
rules of gothicness,
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verticality
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and a sort of general sense
of making that space.
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Though the drawing that I made
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standing against
the police barrier
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was traced over with the first
initial sketch
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of the access tower,
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and that sketch drawing
has sustained the project
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through all of its
preliminary stages,
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because it was enough
of that sketch drawing
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to show the before
and the after.
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I mean, subsequently of course
there were proper CGI views,
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you know, computer-generated
views
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and models and stuff made.
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But the original drawing
was the key thing.
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Ptolemy narrates: I spent
quite a lot of my life
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going to work by train.
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I have a long journey
in the morning
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and an hour-long journey
in the evening
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and in fact, I find those
two hours on the train
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the most productive time
of my day.
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There are no emails.
There's seven tunnels.
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No-one can ring you.
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You're just sitting there.
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Of course there's people
around you, all in silence.
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And happily, our train
still has tables.
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You know, sketching this thing,
how does that work?
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How does it work?
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And of course, it suddenly came.
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In fact, I can remember
where it came.
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It came between Tunbridge
and High Brooms.
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The idea that the lift should
actually be a square core
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with a rotated outer square
that would create this shape,
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that would allow a staircase
to go around
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with galleries at landing levels
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that would give you views
across the rotated square,
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would also break down
the shape of the tower
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so that instead of being
a great big fat lump
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rising up vertically,
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you could have the great big
vertical shafts of light
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that you need to break down
the mass of this thing
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into something
that really worked better
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with the Gothic architecture
of Westminster Abbey itself.
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And then after that,
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it all just completely
fell into place.
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- He has an ability
which I greatly admire.
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He will stand there beside me,
talking to me,
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and at the same time,
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his pen is going
on his sketchpad
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and he is producing
a wonderful drawing
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while wasting no time at all.
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This, of course,
is terribly important,
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to be able to produce
fine sketches
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which he then watercolours
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to be able to show to people
what you are proposing to do,
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what it might look like,
what its surroundings look like.
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He manages to enhance
the setting
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and bring this out
in a very visual way
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so that it can be understood,
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rather than in two-dimensional
architect's drawings,
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which of course
have to be made anyway
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for proper planning purposes
and building construction.
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But in order to tell the public
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and the interested outsiders
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what it's all about,
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they need work like Ptolemy
does on sketching.
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It's superb.
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He produces the most amazing
reports for us
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with lots of sketches.
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He's done sketches of all kinds.
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I mean, all the time, he just
goes somewhere and sketches.
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It's a sort of marvellous gift
that he has.
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If you're sketching,
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then you look in a way
which is different
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from how the rest of us
might look.
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You actually really
see something
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in a way that you might not
otherwise see it.
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And then, therefore, you have
a sort of deep empathy
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with the building itself.
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And I think he has enormous
respect for this building
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and love for it.
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As we all do.
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And therefore, everything
that's done here,
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as it were, fits in.
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It's all very carefully
thought through
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and that's what I absolutely
love about it.
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Narrator: With all this comes
another love, churches.
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Churches of all shapes
and sizes
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hold a fascination
for Ptolemy Dean.
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So his installation
as Surveyor of the Fabric
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of Westminster Abbey in 2012
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was a great moment
in his career.
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And the Abbey knew
they had their man.
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He was certainly the right man
in the right place
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at the right time. Yes.
I mean, this...
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I mean, not many architects
get handed on a plate
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making an addition
to Westminster Abbey.
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I mean, there haven't been
any additions to the Abbey
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since the West Towers
in the early 18th century.
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So, you know, this is something
that happens,
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not once-in-a-lifetime,
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but once in some hundreds
of years.
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Narrator: It was decided
that the Weston Tower,
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as it would be called,
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should be built on the site
of some old brick toilets.
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After they had been relocated,
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the archaeologists moved in,
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all before work could start
on the staircase.
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- They gave us the opportunity
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to learn something
about this area,
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which is called
Poets' Corner Yard,
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which was totally unknown.
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And I mean, we found fragments
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of the buildings
that had been here.
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I mean, William Caxton
lived here of course.
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He actually lived
at No.2 Poets' Corner,
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as it was called.
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So this is a very historic
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and important corner
of the Abbey.
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- Archaeologists are looking
down in the ground.
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They are digging away.
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And we discover this stepped
foundation of the old Abbey.
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Made out of stonework
that's been salvaged
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from the Edward the Confessor
Abbey of the 1060s,
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rebuilt as a great big
sort of lime concrete raft
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on which all of this building
is set on.
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The rebuilding of that raft
in the 1250s,
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they've used Roman bones
from a Roman cemetery
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to sort of help drain
around the edge.
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We have all these Roman bones,
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this wonderful raw foundation.
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And then below that,
we have the sand,
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beautiful sandy beach
of Thorney Island,
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looking as if it had just
come from the Costa del Sol.
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I mean, really beautiful
coloured sand.
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So we've exposed the footings
and we had to do two things.
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Firstly, we were determined
not to damage the footings
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in any way,
the mediaeval footings.
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And also, we wanted
to leave them exposed.
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So our structural engineers
were brilliant
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because they just simply
extended the raft
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on which the tower stands,
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sitting on the edge
of the existing raft.
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So, we didn't touch it,
we didn't dig into it.
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We just simply extended it,
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which was a really nice
and right thing to do.
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Narrator: After
the exterior archaeology
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came the interior investigation.
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And that brought more surprises.
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- It was like the attic at home,
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full of all the things
which for centuries,
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nobody knew what to do with.
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And of course,
a huge amount of rubbish
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was underneath those floors.
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Now, the floors,
underneath the timber,
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it's like the craters
of the moon.
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It goes up and down.
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It's a switchback.
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Because below you
are the great stone faults.
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So, when you are standing
in the Abbey and you look up,
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you see the great
stone vaults.
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They go up and down.
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Well of course, upstairs,
they go down and up.
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It's those pockets
that were filled with rubbish.
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And there was anything up to
a metre or in some cases,
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a little more than a metre
of rubbish in those pockets.
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750 years of rubbish
collected in there.
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So that was hugely important.
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It's a subject
that one tends to forget.
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You think, "Oh, you can just
clear out all the dirt."
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It was filthy and revolting,
all this stuff.
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And a lot was being cleared out
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and there were some bags of it
already in a skip.
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And I looked at this
and I said, "Hang on.
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"This is the archaeology of
the upper parts of the Abbey."
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So, we duly had all the bags out
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and eventually, we had nearly
4,000 bags of rubbish
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brought out from those vaults.
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And they produced the most
remarkable collection
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of artefacts.
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This included over 30,000 pieces
of ancient glass,
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some beautiful 13th-century
painted and decorated glass,
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14th- and 15th-century glass,
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some Victorian glass,
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a lovely angel, a Victorian
angel, was amongst them.
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So, a mixture, plain glass,
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decorated glass,
but a great deal.
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And it's wonderful
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because the Abbey has
very little mediaeval glass
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and here we have this great
cache of material
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under the floor.
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But not just glass.
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For example,
things that people had posted
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through gaps in the floorboards.
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You know how children drop toys
and things through.
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Well, it included four tickets
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for the coronation
of Queen Anne.
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We go from having
no known tickets
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of Queen Anne's coronation
to four.
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You know, and of course,
individually written
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and signed by the chapter clerk
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and then stamped
with the Abbey seal
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and you were told,
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"Present this ticket at such
and such a door on the day."
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It was wonderful.
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You know, a coronation
that took place
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at the beginning
of the 18th century
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was suddenly brought to life
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by having the tickets
that the people used there.
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Narrator: Some of the 30,000
fragments of stained glass
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were made up
into a new window
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and the finds were added to
from the Abbey's own collections
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to create a gallery
unlike any other.
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And a staircase
rising through seven floors.
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Ptolemy narrates: It's a pretty
tough challenge at first glance.
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But of course, in fact,
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much of the work is done
for you already
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by laying simple realities
of the commission.
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The staircase has to be
of a certain width
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for the building regulations.
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And then of course,
we have the site
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which was all completely
surrounded by the Abbey,
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by the chapter house etc.
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So we have very little space
to play with.
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There had been some
initial sketches
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that had been produced
at a sort of feasibility stage
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of different lifts
and staircases
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next to each other.
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But it seemed to me
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that the process of going up
the stairs
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needed to be beautiful.
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i.e. we needed to find
very, very shallow stairs
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so that the process of rising up
would be moving and interesting.
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Also, the view as you go
up the stairs
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was in many ways more beautiful
and more interesting
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than sitting in the lift.
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We wanted to encourage people
to actually go up the stairs.
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And it's seven stories
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so that's quite a big thing
to encourage them.
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[gentle instrumental music]
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Narrator: Westminster Abbey
survived the Blitz,
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even that night on 10 May 1941
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when the House of Commons
across the road
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was destroyed in a fire storm.
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It occupies
such an important place
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in the public's consciousness
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that any architect charged
with adding to it
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might take fright.
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But Ptolemy Dean, in creating
a new staircase tower
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to reach the completed Queen's
Diamond Jubilee Galleries,
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recognised that the key
to success was restraint.
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No machine-made windows for him.
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12,000 leaded panes
made by hand.
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No bling.
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His creation wouldn't challenge
the work of Wren and Hawksmoor.
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It would compliment it.
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It wouldn't hide
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but it would respect the
existing fabric of the Abbey.
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And Ptolemy Dean's love
and study of churches
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has been employed here,
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Cues he picked up
around the country
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and in Westminster Abbey itself.
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The rotated square of course
445
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is also the shape of the windows
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on the Henry VII Chapel,
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where you've got the same shape.
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There's 50%
of the rotated square.
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We have it
on the Westminster Retable.
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We have it in the windows.
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We have it on the rear
in the Faith's Chapel.
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We've got this rotated square
pattern everywhere.
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It's a Westminster thing.
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And then of course, when
it comes to the roof,
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well, the rotated square
gives you the roof form
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but then has to be
sufficiently steep
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to fit in with that
wonderful world of pinnacles
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and buttresses and buttress caps
and roof caps
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that we've got here
at Westminster already.
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And there's no point saying,
461
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"You've got to have a flat roof
and a flat, slided,
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"modernistic intervention
in this place."
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This thing has to fit in
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and play by the rules
of Westminster,
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which is verticality,
verticality,
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verticality and verticality.
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The sort of deeper precedent
of it,
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once you have
your rotated square
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and you start drawing that
on the train,
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by this time you've passed
Tunbridge Wells.
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You know, it's a very
exciting moment,
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except I have to get off
nine minutes later
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so, you know, it's rather
hopeless at that point.
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But you're drawing these lines
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and you're beginning to see
that this thing could happen.
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So, we went rushing up to Ely.
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Ely was a really important
precedent for us.
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We have here at Westminster
a central crossing tower
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that does not have any
kind of lantern at all.
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It's got a very shallow roof.
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But it had been suggested
that there had been potentially
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an Ely-like lantern here
at Westminster as well as Ely.
483
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So, something like that.
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So we got the Surveyor
of the Fabric at Ely Cathedral
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to let us go up
and she very kindly did.
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And we went up and
looked at the Ely structure.
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And of course, the Ely structure
is oak clad in lead
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with rain water pipes
in there,
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there's sort of vertical piers,
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to create that wonderful
lantern.
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And that of course was a great
inspiration for us
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because when it came
to making our rotated square,
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we did not have the room to make
great big huge stone buttresses
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that would be flying out.
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We would be touching the English
Heritage-owned Chapter House
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which we couldn't
obviously touch.
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And we'd be smashing into
the walls of the Abbey itself.
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So we devised a system
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where we would make
our structure lead-clad steel,
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which would give us
the precision
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that the structural engineer
needed
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to get the verticality to work,
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cladded lead
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with our downpipes coming
through those buttress piers.
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And that of course gave us
the Ely precedent,
506
00:24:57,206 --> 00:24:59,896
albeit using steel
rather than oak,
507
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,896
to make our new tower a reality.
508
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,448
So then, when it came
to the windows,
509
00:25:04,551 --> 00:25:06,344
of course, you look around here
510
00:25:06,448 --> 00:25:10,068
and we have rectangular
windowpanes.
511
00:25:10,172 --> 00:25:12,068
Now, those caves,
they're not diamond-shaped.
512
00:25:12,172 --> 00:25:13,551
They are rectangular.
513
00:25:13,655 --> 00:25:17,379
That arises, as does
the structure in this space,
514
00:25:17,482 --> 00:25:20,137
from Wren's great reconstruction
of the Abbey,
515
00:25:20,241 --> 00:25:22,137
that was begun
in the late 17th century
516
00:25:22,241 --> 00:25:24,724
and moved into the early
18th century.
517
00:25:24,827 --> 00:25:27,344
He said, "If we do not spend
money restoring this building,
518
00:25:27,448 --> 00:25:30,620
"it will fall within 30 years."
519
00:25:30,724 --> 00:25:33,965
And there was then
a big public campaign,
520
00:25:34,068 --> 00:25:35,068
funded by Parliament,
521
00:25:35,172 --> 00:25:38,586
to repair and restore the Abbey.
522
00:25:38,689 --> 00:25:41,862
And Wren set about reroofing
the Abbey
523
00:25:41,965 --> 00:25:44,068
with the lead flat roofs
which we have
524
00:25:44,172 --> 00:25:45,965
over these radial chapels.
525
00:25:46,068 --> 00:25:47,793
They would've been initially
in the French pattern,
526
00:25:47,896 --> 00:25:49,103
chevette roofs.
527
00:25:49,206 --> 00:25:52,241
Lead flats, very pragmatic,
very functional.
528
00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:56,413
Supported on these wonderful oak
trusses which Wren installed.
529
00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:00,413
Now, we knew that when we came
to do our tower,
530
00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:03,965
that if we had great
sheet glass,
531
00:26:04,068 --> 00:26:05,482
it would reflect the light
532
00:26:05,586 --> 00:26:07,724
in a way that was
utterly discordant
533
00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:11,137
and that what we needed was
to have that same pattern
534
00:26:11,241 --> 00:26:12,482
of rectangular caves
535
00:26:12,586 --> 00:26:16,137
that would ripple the light
and give you that same twinkle,
536
00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,275
that same twinkle that
incidentally you also see
537
00:26:18,379 --> 00:26:20,586
in the Palace of Westminster
across the road.
538
00:26:23,793 --> 00:26:25,793
Narrator: Oak was found
in an English timber yard.
539
00:26:25,896 --> 00:26:27,758
At one point, it was thought
that French oak
540
00:26:27,862 --> 00:26:29,448
would have to be used.
541
00:26:29,551 --> 00:26:33,655
And it was cut in a way that
minimises distortion as it ages.
542
00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:36,793
It should last as long as Wren's
500-year-old timbers.
543
00:26:38,758 --> 00:26:40,896
Ptolemy Dean
and his structural engineers
544
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,862
also wanted to use
English stone, not French.
545
00:26:43,965 --> 00:26:45,655
But there was a problem.
546
00:26:45,758 --> 00:26:49,206
We knew that this space
is built of Reigate stone.
547
00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:53,103
Reigate stone has not been
quarried for centuries.
548
00:26:53,206 --> 00:26:55,724
It's a terrible, soft stone.
549
00:26:55,827 --> 00:26:56,793
It was the soft stone
550
00:26:56,896 --> 00:26:58,724
that Christopher Wren
had to largely replace
551
00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:01,344
from the 1680s
and '90s onwards.
552
00:27:01,448 --> 00:27:02,482
It's hopeless.
553
00:27:02,586 --> 00:27:05,241
But we have this need
for Reigate stone.
554
00:27:05,344 --> 00:27:08,103
And there was this rather
marvellous coincidence
555
00:27:08,206 --> 00:27:11,068
that Lord and Lady Hilton,
who are friends of the Abbey,
556
00:27:11,172 --> 00:27:14,689
have a patch of land
in that mad crossroads
557
00:27:14,793 --> 00:27:18,413
of railway at the M23
and the M26 and M25
558
00:27:18,517 --> 00:27:20,344
near Reigate,
559
00:27:20,448 --> 00:27:23,172
which had a sort of hole
in the ground
560
00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:26,965
where this Reigate stone
was thought to have accumulated.
561
00:27:27,068 --> 00:27:29,931
Now of course,
we couldn't get that stone
562
00:27:30,034 --> 00:27:31,379
in a commercial sense,
563
00:27:31,482 --> 00:27:34,310
because we would've had to go
through a whole quarry process.
564
00:27:34,413 --> 00:27:36,413
But they simply said,
"Just come along
565
00:27:36,517 --> 00:27:38,827
"and we will let you just dig
a few holes on our land.
566
00:27:38,931 --> 00:27:39,931
"It's not commercial.
567
00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:42,448
"We will give you any stone
you happen to find."
568
00:27:42,551 --> 00:27:45,379
So we had three days of people
coming down there
569
00:27:45,482 --> 00:27:47,000
and they didn't find it,
didn't find it,
570
00:27:47,103 --> 00:27:48,827
and on the last day,
they found it.
571
00:27:48,931 --> 00:27:51,310
They found this marvellous
Reigate stone.
572
00:27:51,413 --> 00:27:54,689
And we had that Reigate
stone cut
573
00:27:54,793 --> 00:27:57,724
and made for the new archway
574
00:27:57,827 --> 00:27:59,931
to the gallery door
on the side.
575
00:28:00,034 --> 00:28:01,620
And it's a perfect match.
576
00:28:01,724 --> 00:28:02,827
The whole story
577
00:28:02,931 --> 00:28:04,965
and the fact that
the Westminster Abbey outside
578
00:28:05,068 --> 00:28:07,896
does not look like
it used to look in the 1250s
579
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,655
because all the stone
is different,
580
00:28:09,758 --> 00:28:11,482
became clear to us.
581
00:28:11,586 --> 00:28:15,413
So, when we were then making
the lift shaft tower,
582
00:28:15,517 --> 00:28:16,793
which was to be clad in stone,
583
00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:19,000
a concrete shaft to be clad
in stone,
584
00:28:19,103 --> 00:28:21,724
we realised that it would be
absolutely fantastic,
585
00:28:21,827 --> 00:28:25,413
instead of just one dull, bland,
simple selection
586
00:28:25,517 --> 00:28:26,758
of a single stone,
587
00:28:26,862 --> 00:28:29,827
we would band the stone
with all the different stones
588
00:28:29,931 --> 00:28:31,241
that we could think of
589
00:28:31,344 --> 00:28:33,482
that had been used
in the Abbey's construction,
590
00:28:33,586 --> 00:28:37,103
starting at the very base with
the sort of clunch chalky stone
591
00:28:37,206 --> 00:28:38,724
used in the 10th century,
592
00:28:38,827 --> 00:28:40,344
moving onto this Reigate,
593
00:28:40,448 --> 00:28:44,379
which we managed to dig up
underneath the M23/M25 junction,
594
00:28:44,482 --> 00:28:46,172
moving up to corn stone
from France,
595
00:28:46,275 --> 00:28:48,206
of which there's quite a lot,
596
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:51,551
and then moving up
to the Victorian and modern.
597
00:28:51,655 --> 00:28:54,413
I was tempted to leave
a row of breeze blocks
598
00:28:54,517 --> 00:28:56,896
on the very top as a kind of
celebration of the 1950s
599
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,827
but we didn't do that
in the end.
600
00:28:58,931 --> 00:29:03,068
But the reality is, that now
when you go up the stair,
601
00:29:03,172 --> 00:29:05,413
these bands of stone change.
602
00:29:05,517 --> 00:29:07,517
So, if you're interested
in stone,
603
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:10,413
you can firstly look down
and see the exposed foundation
604
00:29:10,517 --> 00:29:13,413
at the base
and then as you go up,
605
00:29:13,517 --> 00:29:17,034
you can trace all these
different bands of stone
606
00:29:17,137 --> 00:29:19,655
coming up to the modern age
at the top.
607
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,310
That was all part and parcel
of this thing
608
00:29:22,413 --> 00:29:24,896
about trying to make
the experience
609
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,586
of going up the stair
as interesting
610
00:29:26,689 --> 00:29:28,448
and as pleasurable
as possible.
611
00:29:33,793 --> 00:29:35,172
Narrator: It was this sort
of confidence
612
00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:38,275
that was required to complete
one of the most unusual projects
613
00:29:38,379 --> 00:29:40,551
in recent British
architectural history.
614
00:29:41,724 --> 00:29:43,586
It was important
to assemble a team
615
00:29:43,689 --> 00:29:45,931
whose members would work
well together.
616
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:49,241
For this is not your typical
build project.
617
00:29:49,344 --> 00:29:50,758
And Ptolemy wanted a builder
618
00:29:50,862 --> 00:29:53,793
who would treat this
as a repair job,
619
00:29:53,896 --> 00:29:56,068
just as Christopher Wren did
before him.
620
00:29:57,758 --> 00:30:01,034
It was that mental approach
of treating the new construction
621
00:30:01,137 --> 00:30:02,827
as if it was a repair project
622
00:30:02,931 --> 00:30:04,620
which meant that the craftsmen
623
00:30:04,724 --> 00:30:07,379
worked with each other
rather than separately.
624
00:30:07,482 --> 00:30:08,517
So, you couldn't just say,
625
00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:09,896
"Right, you're building
the concrete,
626
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,931
"you're doing the stone,
you're doing the timber."
627
00:30:12,034 --> 00:30:13,137
They had to work together.
628
00:30:13,241 --> 00:30:14,965
So, we had teams of
timber people
629
00:30:15,068 --> 00:30:17,551
cutting and scribing things
over the metalwork
630
00:30:17,655 --> 00:30:19,517
where the metalwork didn't quite
meet the concrete.
631
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:23,413
And it was the only way
we could have built it.
632
00:30:23,517 --> 00:30:25,413
I have to say,
the collaborative approach
633
00:30:25,517 --> 00:30:27,724
for the construction was one
of the most wonderful things.
634
00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:30,172
There was never an argument
or never a disagreement
635
00:30:30,275 --> 00:30:32,310
during the construction
of this project.
636
00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:35,448
It was just because everybody
just got on with it.
637
00:30:45,551 --> 00:30:47,413
And one of the things
that has been so lovely
638
00:30:47,517 --> 00:30:51,620
is also drawing whilst
the thing is being built.
639
00:30:51,724 --> 00:30:53,448
So I have a sequence of drawings
640
00:30:53,551 --> 00:30:57,310
that I've made of the project
whilst it's being built.
641
00:30:57,413 --> 00:30:59,517
Including one taken
from the same place
642
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:00,896
when it was completed.
643
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,034
So we have this sort of before,
644
00:31:02,137 --> 00:31:05,034
all the way through
the sequence, and after.
645
00:31:05,137 --> 00:31:07,896
And there's something so nice
about having the record,
646
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,068
but it's the process of drawing
it that's been such a pleasure.
647
00:31:31,724 --> 00:31:33,896
Narrator: The Queen's
Diamond Jubilee Galleries
648
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,344
and the Weston Tower
were finally opened
649
00:31:36,448 --> 00:31:38,827
in the summer of 2018.
650
00:31:38,931 --> 00:31:40,379
For the first time in centuries,
651
00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:43,655
visitors to the Abbey could
come up to a once secret space
652
00:31:43,758 --> 00:31:47,034
under the roof,
look down on the great nave,
653
00:31:47,137 --> 00:31:49,034
come face to face
with Charles II
654
00:31:49,137 --> 00:31:52,000
in his robes
of the Order of the Garter...
655
00:31:56,413 --> 00:31:58,241
..with the effigies
of English kings
656
00:31:58,344 --> 00:32:00,862
made in wood and placed
on top of their coffin.
657
00:32:00,965 --> 00:32:03,896
But, thankfully for us,
not buried with them.
658
00:32:05,655 --> 00:32:07,137
And around this display
659
00:32:07,241 --> 00:32:10,172
can be found Ptolemy Dean's
attention to detail.
660
00:32:11,758 --> 00:32:13,275
Part of our work was the renewal
661
00:32:13,379 --> 00:32:14,586
of the floors
of these galleries,
662
00:32:14,689 --> 00:32:16,517
which is oak, all on a level.
663
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:19,482
But the more difficult thing
was the hand rail
664
00:32:19,586 --> 00:32:21,000
around the edge
of the triforium,
665
00:32:21,103 --> 00:32:22,310
and of course, everybody said,
666
00:32:22,413 --> 00:32:25,620
"Well, it's a modern
contemporary intervention.
667
00:32:25,724 --> 00:32:28,172
"You must have glass
balustrades."
668
00:32:28,275 --> 00:32:30,413
We said, "Absolutely not."
669
00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:37,413
Balustrading around the edge
of the triforium openings
670
00:32:37,517 --> 00:32:39,275
would have always shrieked,
671
00:32:39,379 --> 00:32:43,344
"Oh, look, there's
a contemporary intervention,
672
00:32:43,448 --> 00:32:44,793
"a Heritage intervention,
673
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:48,620
"which has been designed to look
as if it's invisible.
674
00:32:48,724 --> 00:32:50,620
"But it's absolutely
not invisible."
675
00:32:50,724 --> 00:32:52,000
So we went back,
676
00:32:52,103 --> 00:32:54,413
and that was another
train journey, incidentally.
677
00:32:54,517 --> 00:32:56,586
The breakthrough on the design
of the handrail
678
00:32:56,689 --> 00:32:58,448
happened on a train to Norwich.
679
00:32:58,551 --> 00:33:00,724
And we realised
that the handrail,
680
00:33:00,827 --> 00:33:03,896
if it was made, firstly,
of iron, blackened iron,
681
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,827
in fact, it's blackened steel,
682
00:33:05,931 --> 00:33:08,137
could become like all those
other bits
683
00:33:08,241 --> 00:33:11,103
of detailed design ironwork
in this place.
684
00:33:11,206 --> 00:33:12,586
It just falls
into the background,
685
00:33:12,689 --> 00:33:15,724
because your eye just assumes
it's already there.
686
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:17,448
So people who come into
this space
687
00:33:17,551 --> 00:33:21,413
and see our lovely
sank foil design in metal,
688
00:33:21,517 --> 00:33:23,793
which is what the handrail
is made of,
689
00:33:23,896 --> 00:33:24,793
with its oaking,
690
00:33:24,896 --> 00:33:26,724
they just assume
it was already here.
691
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,827
Narrator:
What was the media reaction?
692
00:33:33,931 --> 00:33:36,172
After all,
Ptolemy Dean's creation
693
00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,482
was a mixture of styles
and materials,
694
00:33:38,586 --> 00:33:40,724
not easy to describe.
695
00:33:40,827 --> 00:33:42,862
The Engineer Magazine
called it
696
00:33:42,965 --> 00:33:46,000
"an inside-out
display cabinet."
697
00:33:46,103 --> 00:33:50,000
The Times said it was
"a handcrafted gem."
698
00:33:50,103 --> 00:33:54,103
And The Guardian called it
"a Gothic space rocket."
699
00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:58,827
It was very interesting
how the press
700
00:33:58,931 --> 00:34:03,862
were unable to quite pigeonhole
the design of this thing.
701
00:34:03,965 --> 00:34:06,379
It wasn't modern
702
00:34:06,482 --> 00:34:09,413
but it wasn't entirely
historicist.
703
00:34:09,517 --> 00:34:11,379
It was something else.
704
00:34:13,172 --> 00:34:15,241
They couldn't categorise it
705
00:34:15,344 --> 00:34:18,275
and nor could they
quite dismiss it.
706
00:34:22,517 --> 00:34:26,172
It didn't accord to
the standard protocols
707
00:34:26,275 --> 00:34:29,793
of a contemporary architectural
intervention,
708
00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:32,862
which nowadays has to be
sheet glass and steel
709
00:34:32,965 --> 00:34:34,379
and all the rest of it.
710
00:34:34,482 --> 00:34:35,344
You know, it's traditional,
711
00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:38,448
and yet it's also very clearly
of its time,
712
00:34:38,551 --> 00:34:40,827
and I think that there's
a lot to learn from that.
713
00:34:47,344 --> 00:34:49,965
I never looked at this
as being a major intervention
714
00:34:50,068 --> 00:34:52,379
to Hawksmoor's Western towers.
715
00:34:52,482 --> 00:34:56,793
Hawksmoor's Western Towers were
completing a part of the Abbey
716
00:34:56,896 --> 00:34:59,827
that had been left incomplete
since the Middle Ages,
717
00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:02,827
and he very interestingly,
718
00:35:02,931 --> 00:35:05,827
Hawksmoor was incredibly
deferential
719
00:35:05,931 --> 00:35:07,310
to what he started with.
720
00:35:07,413 --> 00:35:09,310
And in his own unique way,
721
00:35:09,413 --> 00:35:12,482
created a gothic architecture
722
00:35:12,586 --> 00:35:15,000
largely made out
of classical details,
723
00:35:15,103 --> 00:35:18,482
but a gothic piece that would
complete the work of the Abbey.
724
00:35:18,586 --> 00:35:20,931
So everybody here has conformed
by the rules.
725
00:35:21,034 --> 00:35:23,172
So our little access tower,
726
00:35:23,275 --> 00:35:27,413
the modest, small addition
made literally this year,
727
00:35:27,517 --> 00:35:31,586
last year, of course, has to
conform and play by the rules.
728
00:35:31,689 --> 00:35:33,896
But we all feel,
I'm sure Hawksmoor, Wren,
729
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,275
Barry across the road, evilly,
they'll feel better for it.
730
00:35:39,379 --> 00:35:41,862
Because the greater whole
is more important
731
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:43,758
than our individual parts.
732
00:35:50,172 --> 00:35:52,000
- The whole thing has been,
733
00:35:52,103 --> 00:35:56,620
how can a visitor, and anyone
coming to the Abbey,
734
00:35:56,724 --> 00:36:00,413
get to understand the nature
of the Abbey?
735
00:36:00,517 --> 00:36:04,689
What its history, what its place
is, in our national life.
736
00:36:05,965 --> 00:36:07,793
And now, with this,
737
00:36:07,896 --> 00:36:12,103
we are showing so much more
of our treasure.
738
00:36:12,206 --> 00:36:17,896
So that people can grasp
the amazing story
739
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,965
of Westminster Abbey
from the 10th century until now.
740
00:36:23,068 --> 00:36:25,655
And where it sits
within our national life.
741
00:36:25,758 --> 00:36:27,034
It's rather exciting, really.
742
00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:36,551
- This is a building Britain
can be justly proud of.
743
00:36:36,655 --> 00:36:38,655
Ptolemy has done the Abbey
744
00:36:38,758 --> 00:36:41,931
and the country
a magnificent service,
745
00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:46,068
with designing this extremely
inventive, wonderful building
746
00:36:46,172 --> 00:36:48,448
that sits here so naturally
747
00:36:48,551 --> 00:36:50,275
in amongst the rest
of the towers
748
00:36:50,379 --> 00:36:51,827
and buttresses and so on,
749
00:36:51,931 --> 00:36:56,310
and looks part
of the whole ensemble,
750
00:36:56,413 --> 00:36:58,862
and yet you can see
it is a modern building.
751
00:36:58,965 --> 00:37:01,689
It is a truly remarkable
achievement.
752
00:37:07,482 --> 00:37:10,482
[uplifting string music]
753
00:37:23,344 --> 00:37:25,482
Narrator: And what sort
of experience has it been
754
00:37:25,586 --> 00:37:28,310
for the Surveyor of the Fabric
of Westminster Abbey?
755
00:37:29,586 --> 00:37:31,206
Looking through the windows
756
00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:34,206
and seeing the chapter house
different times of day,
757
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:37,448
you get light passing
through the chapter house,
758
00:37:37,551 --> 00:37:39,620
passing through two sets
of windows,
759
00:37:39,724 --> 00:37:43,137
through into our tower
and casting incredible shadows.
760
00:37:43,241 --> 00:37:44,172
Particularly in winter,
761
00:37:44,275 --> 00:37:48,068
you get these incredible,
serendipitous shadows and lights
762
00:37:48,172 --> 00:37:50,241
and coloured glass colouring in
763
00:37:50,344 --> 00:37:52,896
great coloured stains
across our stair.
764
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,586
I mean, it's extraordinary.
765
00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:55,965
It's what you didn't expect.
766
00:37:56,068 --> 00:37:58,655
It's not what you could have
ever designed even on a train.
767
00:39:22,172 --> 00:39:24,620
Narrator: Next time...
768
00:39:24,724 --> 00:39:27,413
In Scotland, one of the nation's
best-known whisky makers
769
00:39:27,517 --> 00:39:29,379
has built a new distillery.
770
00:39:30,931 --> 00:39:33,413
Dropped into the hillside
above the River Spey,
771
00:39:33,517 --> 00:39:34,758
it's unlike any other.
772
00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:39,586
It could be a structure
from the Cold War,
773
00:39:39,689 --> 00:39:42,586
or something out of James Bond.
774
00:39:45,379 --> 00:39:46,931
A year after it was opened,
775
00:39:47,034 --> 00:39:49,448
it's become a stop
on the tourist trail,
776
00:39:49,551 --> 00:39:52,413
and not just for the whisky.
777
00:39:52,517 --> 00:39:55,482
The competition to design this
most unusual of distilleries
778
00:39:55,586 --> 00:39:57,758
was won by
the London-based partnership
779
00:39:57,862 --> 00:40:01,482
of Richard Rogers,
Graham Stirk and Ivan Harbour.
780
00:40:01,586 --> 00:40:03,310
And to Graham Stirk
fell the task
781
00:40:03,413 --> 00:40:07,965
of reimagining an age-old
process for the 21st century.
782
00:40:10,413 --> 00:40:12,931
- The whole point
was the mystery revealed.
783
00:40:14,172 --> 00:40:18,103
Suddenly, this distillery
pops up.
784
00:40:18,206 --> 00:40:23,379
And the mystery revealed was why
we were very interested in...
785
00:40:23,482 --> 00:40:25,655
The word we used
in the presentation was,
786
00:40:25,758 --> 00:40:27,896
"This is Jules Verne."
787
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,448
This is something where you find
788
00:40:30,551 --> 00:40:33,655
a piece of almost
Victorian engineering
789
00:40:33,758 --> 00:40:37,206
buried and still functioning
below ground.
790
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:40,413
And it was the contrast
of the two
791
00:40:40,517 --> 00:40:43,448
which was actually really,
really important.
792
00:40:43,551 --> 00:40:45,551
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