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- American monster movies
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are popular almost
everywhere in the world.
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Tonight your guide for
this rare odyssey
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is the rising star of horror,
a real little terror.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
here's Chucky!
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- It's showtime.
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Where the hell's Andy?
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Did you miss me, Andy?
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Andy, snap out of it!
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You act like you've never
seen a dead body before!
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- I never saw a doll
like you before.
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- Amazing, isn't it?
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I don't have a problem
with killing.
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- Chucky did it.
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- What are you
talking about?!
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- Just stay away
from that doll!
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- it's just a doll.
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- Prove that it's
just a doll.
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- Say something, dammit!
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- How's it hanging, Phil?
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Presto, you're dead.
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- You're dead.
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- No, you are.
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- No, you're dead,
we killed you!
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- You just can't keep
a good guy down.
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I am Chucky, the
killer doll!
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And I dig it!
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- So can you take
me back to the beginning
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of when all of
this started?
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- You know, I was a
horror fan all my life.
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I wrote the first script when
I was a student at UCLA.
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And I was really inspired
by the horror movies
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that I grew up
on as a kid.
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I especially loved
Brian De Palma movies,
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like "Carrie" and "Dressed
to Kill," and "The Fury."
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So I gravitated to writing
'cause it was cheaper.
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You know, so it's just
the cost of paper,
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and in those days
a typewriter.
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This was like before
computers. Can you believe
it?
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- For a while there in the
early '80s, every weekend,
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a new slasher movie
was opening up.
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It was just such
a flood of them.
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- When the first "Nightmare
on Elm Street" came out,
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and it was in 1984, it was
very unusual to have a hero,
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be a villain like
Freddy Krueger,
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who was disfigured
and evil.
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It was a new kind
of horror figure.
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It was a relatable horror
figure. It wasn't a monster.
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It wasn't somebody
grunting, and groaning,
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and coming and
breaking in.
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He was a guy, and
he had an attitude.
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He liked you, you know, he
sort of made you feel
special.
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And there was something
about those elements
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that draws the
audience in.
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- Oh, you know, that was
back in the time when
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the killers in movies
had personalities.
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You know what I mean?
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They became
like the hero,
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but there was like
a shape shifter,
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'cause it was also
the comic relief.
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- The sense of
humor is huge.
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The fact that he had
humor to his malice.
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- That's back when
Freddy Krueger was like,
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"Welcome to prime
time, bitch!"
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And so those kind of
characters found themselves
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as really the staple
of the movie.
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It wasn't about the
teen, the teenage kids,
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and it wasn't about
the heroine.
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Those movies were
about the villain.
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- It paved the way for other
anti-heroes who you hated
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and were afraid of, but you
also were attracted to them.
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And it did, it paved
the way for a Chucky.
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- Well, what happened was
my wife and I, Liz had been
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in England, in London.
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And I bought a
book called
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"The Victorian
Dollhouse Murders."
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Because the idea of dolls
coming to life scared me
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to death when I was a
little kid, Talking Tina
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from "Twilight Zone."
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And when I came back, I gave
her the book and I said,
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"I would love to do
something with dolls."
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And she said, "Well, there
actually was this screenplay
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that came out about six
months ago called "Blood
Buddy."
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But it had been passed
on by the studios.
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I said, "I'm curious
to read it."
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I had done "An
American Tail."
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For my next project. I wanted
to do something scary.
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And she gave it to me,
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and I really liked the
overall idea of it.
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A great idea,
Don's concept
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of a doll that
is programmed
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by Madison Avenue
to come to life.
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- On Madison Avenue,
they refer to children
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as consumer trainees.
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And so like training
children to want things
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that they don't need and
become compulsive buyers.
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And then in the
midst of the '80s
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and Cabbage Patch Dolls
had just come out.
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They were this
huge craze.
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And I realized that the
whole living doll trope
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in the horror genre, I
had seen Talking Tina
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on the "Twilight Zone."
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I had seen "Magic"
with Anthony Hopkins.
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But I realized that
no one had ever done
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the living doll thing as
a full fledged feature
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where you treat the
doll as a character who
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can actually emote and you
can give him pages of
dialogue.
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And "Gremlins" had
just come out.
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So it's like with
"Gremlins," I realized
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that animatronic effects
had gotten to a point
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where they were
sophisticated enough
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that the puppets could
actually emote.
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So sort of all these
ideas came together,
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and out came the
first Chucky script.
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- The veteran slashers
like Freddy, and Jason,
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and Michael Myers were
getting a little tired by
then.
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- Don came to my
office and we met,
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and I got the rights
to the script.
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- He had at the time,
a deal at Disney.
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And so he had an office
on the Disney lot.
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And I'm like 20 or 21, and
so it was a really big deal
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to have someone who
was established
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and had done such big
work, take an interest
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in what I had written and
support it and get it going.
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- The slasher genre was ready
for a burst of new blood,
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and Chucky supplied
that in spades in 1988,
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with the release
of "Child's Play."
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- And did some work on my
own on some ideas for it,
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because there wasn't,
there wasn't
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the "Frankenstein"
moment in it.
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There wasn't the moment that
brought the creature to
life.
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He just, he was a doll
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that had blood in
him, not real blood,
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but you could be
its blood buddy.
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I felt very strongly
that there should
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be something very
different about this.
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And so the story starts
off in the original
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with a murderer, Brad Dourif,
running through the streets
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and the police
are chasing him.
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And he takes refuge
in a toy store.
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- And he's shot by a
police detective.
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But before he dies, he does
this arcane voodoo ritual
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that takes his spirit and
puts it into this inanimate
doll.
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- That's really what brought
the creature to life.
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The name was
very important.
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In Don's script
it was Buddy.
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For me, the men that
truly haunted my childhood
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were James Earl Ray who
shot Martin Luther King,
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Lee Harvey Oswald,
and Charles Manson.
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So Charles Lee Ray are
all three of those names.
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And I don't know if
you know that. Yeah.
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And from there his
friends called him Chucky.
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- Hi, I'm Chucky,
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and I'm your friend till
the end, Hidey-ho!
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- We follow young
Andy Barclay who's
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a lonely kid living
with a single mom.
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And he wants a
Good Guys doll,
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'cause it's the rage
in toys that year.
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And Andy's mom buys
that doll for Andy.
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And pretty soon Andy
has a new best friend,
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but it's not the kind of
best friend that you want.
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It's more of his
worst friend.
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- Hi, I'm Chucky,
wanna play?
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- For my presentation what
I had done are sketches
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of what I thought
Chucky would look like,
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I mean in fierce form.
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You know, they all have kind
of like jumpers or overalls.
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What I did was I took
elements of childhood
implements,
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like a little kid's
baseball bat,
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things that are overall
innocuous to murder.
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That kind of became an
important signature piece for
him
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for that clothing and the
colors that go with that.
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The My Buddy doll that
Don spoke of had red hair.
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- In fairy tales, the
archetype of some,
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you know, redheads evil,
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you know, and that's partly
why Chucky has red hair.
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I mean, it's just, it's
silly and ridiculous.
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And of course, we
know redheads are
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the nicest people
in the world,
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but in fairy tales they
are harbingers of evil.
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- The more important
part was turning
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this kind of benign
doll that could be seen
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on the shelf at
ToysRUs or something,
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and what it would look like
when the monster came out.
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- I said talk
to me, dammit,
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or else I'm gonna throw
you in the fire!
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- You stupid bitch!
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You filthy slut!
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- In those shots, he
kind of changed from
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the mop-haired guy to a
bit of a receding hairline.
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A lot of Jack Nicholson
honestly was my inspiration
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from "The Shining"
for that face.
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- I can't think of a
thing to say. Fuck it.
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- Chucky's very famous.
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- Chucky's so famous.
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Chucky's the most famous
thing you've done, right?
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- Yeah, but I'm
nowhere near
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the star Chucky is.
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- I was, you know, a
huge fan of his even
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just starting as a
kid, growing up,
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"One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest."
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I was a freshman at Columbia
University, 18 years old,
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and he was teaching an
acting class there,
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and I audited the
acting class.
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And then he coincidentally
ended up playing
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this character
that I created.
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I didn't cast him, Tom
Holland, who was the
director
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of the first
movie, cast Brad.
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- What was it
like to switch from,
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you know, acting
to voice acting?
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- It's the same
thing, really.
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You get innately into how
to work with a microphone.
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After a while you just
kind of fall into it.
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- So much of that
character is the voice.
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And you can tell that he
seems to be having fun
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as a little doll
that came to life.
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You know, like, okay,
I'm stuck with this,
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but I'm gonna
have fun with it.
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- It's really fun and
inspiring to work with him.
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The thing about Brad is
he does not condescend
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to this at all.
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Brad like approaches this
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as like, "Where is
he coming from?"
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I mean, he doesn't
literally say,
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"What is Chucky's
motivation?"
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But we do, we talk
about it in the way
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that I do with any
character, any other actor.
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And we're thinking, what
is the subtext here?
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- There's something really
fun about being the villain.
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That weird motivation
of I want to hurt.
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I don't care
who I step on,
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this is what I want
and I'm going to,
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and I'm going to get it.
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There's something
sort of weird
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and pure about
that motivation.
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It's kind of
fun.
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Which is even
really scarier.
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That's the scary part.
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I mean, I think it's finding
the truth in yourself
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about your own
emotions and feelings,
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and the elements
that lead you there.
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You can give yourself
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a million different reasons
why you behave the way you
do.
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It's justification
for you.
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You find a justification
in your own evil.
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- Acting is intention.
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And you know, all of
us have a sort of
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a really violent heart.
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I mean we're all killers.
There's no such thing as
evil.
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All evil is
just humanity.
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It's unacceptable, but
it's still human.
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- I think we create a
scenario for ourselves
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that enables us to carry
out something horrible.
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- You know, history
is replete
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with horrible acts of
violence, and cruelty.
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And we all are capable.
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I think we like to
call things evil,
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because we like to pretend
that we're not, but we are.
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- He works at it hard,
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and so that's, I really
appreciate that.
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- So when you're playing
something like that,
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you're just using that
part of yourself.
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You don't actually kill
anybody, but you do intend
to.
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- Give me the
boy and I'll let you live!
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Do you hear me? Give
me the boy!
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- I've never been
afraid of the doll,
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and I'm not
afraid of Brad.
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- When I met Alex, he
was six, I was 25.
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It's just a weird context
to meet some, you know,
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to meet a child in a
professional context
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where you're colleagues.
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- I don't remember much
else about being six,
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but I remember
being in the film.
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And I remember a
lot of things
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about making it and
behind the scenes.
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- He was you know, just
this little like actor,
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who sometimes felt like
my boss in a weird way.
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- I mean, being
a child actor
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is an interesting
situation for sure.
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'Cause you're given a lot of
the responsibility of an
adult.
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- He never directed me
when I was younger.
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He was just the writer.
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I idolized Don
when I was a kid.
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- In addition to
being a good actor,
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he's a really smart guy.
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- And I was a bright kid.
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I wasn't like a kid
that was just like,
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"Okay, get in front of the
camera, Johnny, and now do
this."
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I had the entire
script memorized.
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I knew everybody's
lines, all my lines,
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all everybody
else's lines.
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- It's just so funny
seeing a seven-year-old,
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like "We need to go
over this scene.
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I don't like like
this dialogue.
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I don't know if this
line works."
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- There's just
something really funny
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about a child cursing too,
that's so
upsetting.
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But when he's like.
299
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- He said, Aunt Maggie
was a real bitch,
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and got what
she deserved.
301
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- I showed it to my boyfriend
for the first time.
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He was like, "Why is
that kid saying that?"
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I'm like, "It's not
him, it's the doll!
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It's Chucky. It's
not his fault!"
305
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- I had never seen
anything like that.
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00:15:38,338 --> 00:15:41,574
And anytime a
movie uses a kid,
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I am on another level
of frightened.
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- By day children
imagine and pretend.
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By night children have the
darkest of imaginations.
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- That's kind of one
of the cool things
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about having a
child actor,
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like, especially in
"Child's Play," you know?
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Because there is that
sort of innocence
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and that quality of they're
not putting on a front.
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They're not putting on
a certain demeanor.
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They're just being
very truthful.
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- You know, the beauty
and then the dark side
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of what the character goes
through, loss, separation.
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It's an important
part of childhood.
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And I think that's why Don's
script originally appealed
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to me because here
was this child
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that was saying, "My
doll's come to life
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and has spoken to me."
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- Andy stop it.
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You know perfectly well
that you're making this up.
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- And one by one people
around him start dying.
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00:16:28,723 --> 00:16:30,790
- And sometimes,
especially in horror films,
328
00:16:30,792 --> 00:16:35,661
I feel like that gives one of
the most jarring reactions.
329
00:16:35,663 --> 00:16:37,797
- That crying scene that
I did in the first one,
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where Andy breaks down
and is scared for his life
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that Chucky's coming
to kill him..
332
00:16:43,638 --> 00:16:46,539
- After Chucky has
murdered several people,
333
00:16:46,541 --> 00:16:49,575
Andy is taken to a mental
institution as a suspect.
334
00:16:49,577 --> 00:16:51,376
- It's like the little
boy that cried wolf,
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except he's telling
the truth.
336
00:16:52,814 --> 00:16:56,582
And it's so insane that
no one would believe him
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00:16:56,584 --> 00:16:58,383
and he's separated
from his mother.
338
00:16:58,385 --> 00:16:59,652
- Meanwhile,
Chucky is trying
339
00:16:59,654 --> 00:17:02,555
to take over Andy's
body and soul.
340
00:17:02,557 --> 00:17:04,824
- He's locked up, but he
like slides down the chair.
341
00:17:04,826 --> 00:17:06,559
And he's crying, 'cause
Chucky's coming after him,
342
00:17:06,561 --> 00:17:07,727
and they don't
believe him.
343
00:17:07,729 --> 00:17:10,630
- I was so dreading that
scene to begin with.
344
00:17:10,632 --> 00:17:12,397
Like I was just
really dreading it,
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because it was a
crying scene.
346
00:17:13,768 --> 00:17:16,702
- I think that as a kid too,
you hate crying on camera,
347
00:17:16,704 --> 00:17:17,870
because you just
wanna have fun.
348
00:17:17,872 --> 00:17:20,438
And now as an adult, I'm
like, when can I cry?
349
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,575
- When it finally
came time to do it,
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I just kind of let
loose and was crying.
351
00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:28,215
- Please don't leave
me, please.
352
00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:35,253
- I legit, am like,
that poor kid.
353
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He's about to get got.
354
00:17:36,658 --> 00:17:38,524
- There are people
who have said it's,
355
00:17:38,526 --> 00:17:40,726
you could just kick the
doll, it's not scary.
356
00:17:40,728 --> 00:17:42,628
And I never
understand that.
357
00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:45,363
- This little toy,
how scary can it be?
358
00:17:45,365 --> 00:17:46,566
You could kick him over.
359
00:17:46,568 --> 00:17:48,501
You could throw him
across the room.
360
00:17:48,503 --> 00:17:50,736
- I mean, if I walk
through my house
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00:17:50,738 --> 00:17:53,438
and a doll came to life,
I'd probably just have
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00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,707
a heart attack and die.
363
00:17:54,709 --> 00:17:56,909
I mean, that's
really scary.
364
00:17:56,911 --> 00:17:59,277
- I think that's why
audiences embrace the
character,
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00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,413
'cause he is an underdog.
366
00:18:01,415 --> 00:18:02,848
You know, he
is resilient.
367
00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:07,252
He can overcome his
shortcomings and do the job.
368
00:18:11,025 --> 00:18:13,559
- I had just gotten in
the Writer's Guild,
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00:18:13,561 --> 00:18:15,628
and there was a strike,
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00:18:15,630 --> 00:18:18,598
so I was not able to be on
the set for "Child's Play"
one.
371
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,466
But then when the
movie was in post
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00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:23,703
and they were editing
David very graciously,
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00:18:23,705 --> 00:18:24,737
'cause he didn't
have to do this,
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00:18:24,739 --> 00:18:27,540
and a lot of producers
wouldn't do it,
375
00:18:27,542 --> 00:18:29,642
invited me into
the editing room
376
00:18:29,644 --> 00:18:30,876
just to see what
they were doing.
377
00:18:30,878 --> 00:18:33,579
And just to get my opinion
for what it was worth.
378
00:18:33,581 --> 00:18:36,782
- It's funny because
what Don was so taken by,
379
00:18:36,784 --> 00:18:38,651
and when Liz and I
were in London,
380
00:18:38,653 --> 00:18:41,554
and I bought that book on
Victorian dollhouse murders,
381
00:18:41,556 --> 00:18:43,556
there's just something
in us, people
382
00:18:43,558 --> 00:18:44,924
that are frightened
of dolls.
383
00:18:44,926 --> 00:18:47,560
And people say all the time,
"I'm frightened of dolls."
384
00:18:47,562 --> 00:18:49,294
- Because there's something
about an inanimate object
385
00:18:49,296 --> 00:18:50,898
that's like, so
386
00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:54,500
no emotion, but
like just a smile.
387
00:18:54,502 --> 00:18:57,570
- This like
frozen expression
388
00:18:57,572 --> 00:19:01,373
that leaves your
imagination room
389
00:19:01,375 --> 00:19:03,542
to do anything
and go anywhere.
390
00:19:03,544 --> 00:19:06,646
- I do think that it's
the idea of bringing
391
00:19:06,648 --> 00:19:11,449
the effigy of human form
to life, that shouldn't be.
392
00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:12,852
- But that was
really nice of him.
393
00:19:12,854 --> 00:19:17,556
And I think it was really at
that point that we bonded,
394
00:19:17,558 --> 00:19:20,660
not just as colleagues,
but as friends.
395
00:19:20,662 --> 00:19:24,597
And you know, and then
happily the movie was
successful,
396
00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:25,898
and they wanted
to do a sequel.
397
00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:28,433
- In fact, if it was a
movie it would take three
398
00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:30,803
or four sequels just
to do it justice.
399
00:19:49,824 --> 00:19:52,758
- I was so proud of the
work that everybody did,
400
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,696
but I never dreamed
there would be a sequel.
401
00:19:56,698 --> 00:19:58,664
I didn't even
think like that.
402
00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:00,766
It was the movie we were
gonna do and then move on.
403
00:20:00,768 --> 00:20:02,535
- You know, and so we
did two movies back
404
00:20:02,537 --> 00:20:04,537
to back, basically.
405
00:20:04,539 --> 00:20:06,806
- I brought Don back
on the second film.
406
00:20:06,808 --> 00:20:10,375
Yes, he was rewritten by John
Lafia on the first film,
407
00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:12,578
and then Tom Holland
after that.
408
00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:16,582
But he has always had a first
position writer's credit
409
00:20:16,584 --> 00:20:18,751
on 30 years of Chucky.
410
00:20:18,753 --> 00:20:21,520
- In "Child's Play 2"
Andy Barclay is sent
411
00:20:21,522 --> 00:20:23,556
to live with
foster parents,
412
00:20:23,558 --> 00:20:25,758
played by Jenny Agutter
and Gerrit Graham.
413
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,593
And of course they
don't believe him
414
00:20:27,595 --> 00:20:29,662
that this doll has
been haunting him
415
00:20:29,664 --> 00:20:31,697
for so much of
his young life.
416
00:20:31,699 --> 00:20:35,201
And they soon wind up
risking Chucky's wrath.
417
00:20:35,203 --> 00:20:35,837
- I've had it!
418
00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:40,172
- But you've
got to kill him!
419
00:20:40,174 --> 00:20:41,640
- Andy!
420
00:20:41,642 --> 00:20:43,542
- I don't have any favorite
individual memories
421
00:20:43,544 --> 00:20:45,644
from that set
because I was,
422
00:20:45,646 --> 00:20:48,514
the entire experience
was so exciting for me.
423
00:20:48,516 --> 00:20:51,684
I was so unbelievably
happy to be there.
424
00:20:51,686 --> 00:20:53,919
- This was really the
big, big production.
425
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:56,421
So I really looked up to all
those people when I was a
kid.
426
00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:58,557
And I had a lifetime
of remembering
427
00:20:58,559 --> 00:20:59,725
that I looked up to them.
428
00:20:59,727 --> 00:21:01,560
- He was seven
and I was 24.
429
00:21:01,562 --> 00:21:04,496
So while I was like a
big sister to him then.
430
00:21:04,498 --> 00:21:05,898
And he has since
told me that I was
431
00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:08,433
the person he remembers
being nicest to him then.
432
00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:09,769
He really felt like I
was his big sister.
433
00:21:09,771 --> 00:21:12,671
- Christine, for
example, you know,
434
00:21:12,673 --> 00:21:14,740
she really feels like
my older sister.
435
00:21:14,742 --> 00:21:16,809
- It's a relationship
that's rarely explored
436
00:21:16,811 --> 00:21:18,944
in horror movies or
movies in general
437
00:21:18,946 --> 00:21:21,479
is like the foster
sibling relationship.
438
00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:22,882
He is a little messed
up from his experience,
439
00:21:22,884 --> 00:21:27,485
but he has this older sibling
he attaches onto real fast.
440
00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:29,622
She treats him as an
equal and she's like,
441
00:21:29,624 --> 00:21:31,857
"Yep, life's messed up,
but I'll help you out."
442
00:21:31,859 --> 00:21:33,793
And she goes to bat for
him. It's really nice.
443
00:21:33,795 --> 00:21:35,728
- I auditioned the
way everyone does.
444
00:21:35,730 --> 00:21:37,596
I went to a, you know, my
agent got me an appointment,
445
00:21:37,598 --> 00:21:38,764
and I went and I read.
446
00:21:38,766 --> 00:21:41,567
My stock and trade
at the time was
447
00:21:41,569 --> 00:21:42,868
the offbeat misunderstood,
tough chick without a gold,
448
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:45,436
which was my stock and
trade for many, many years.
449
00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,472
And I didn't get it.
450
00:21:47,474 --> 00:21:49,608
But I got an episode
of "21 Jump Street"
451
00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:50,676
that I went and did.
452
00:21:50,678 --> 00:21:51,777
And then I came
back from that.
453
00:21:51,779 --> 00:21:53,378
And the day I came back
from "Jumpstreet,"
454
00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,780
I got an episode of
the then "Baywatch."
455
00:21:54,782 --> 00:21:57,516
And I was working and I
felt really empowered.
456
00:21:57,518 --> 00:21:59,852
They hadn't found
the Kyle yet,
457
00:21:59,854 --> 00:22:02,288
and so they decided to go
back and read the girls
458
00:22:02,290 --> 00:22:03,889
that had been
near misses.
459
00:22:03,891 --> 00:22:06,792
And I went back and I went
back with attitude though.
460
00:22:06,794 --> 00:22:08,761
I had a call time, I
didn't have time to waste.
461
00:22:08,763 --> 00:22:09,695
I had to get in
and out of there,
462
00:22:09,697 --> 00:22:10,729
and get my ass
to the beach,
463
00:22:10,731 --> 00:22:12,965
and do a whole day
on "Baywatch."
464
00:22:12,967 --> 00:22:16,535
My attitude shifted
enormously for that second
audition.
465
00:22:16,537 --> 00:22:18,604
And I think that's
why I got it.
466
00:22:18,606 --> 00:22:20,506
That black leather hat that
I'm wearing, it's my hat.
467
00:22:20,508 --> 00:22:21,472
I've worn it in
a ton of stuff.
468
00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:23,341
I wore it in the
old "90210."
469
00:22:23,343 --> 00:22:24,743
I wore it in the
new "90210."
470
00:22:24,745 --> 00:22:27,412
I wore it in the old
Chucky and the new Chucky.
471
00:22:27,414 --> 00:22:28,781
It's a single most
important piece
472
00:22:28,783 --> 00:22:31,584
of memorabilia from my
career that I have.
473
00:22:31,586 --> 00:22:33,619
And it's weird 'cause I owned
it before I was an actor.
474
00:22:33,621 --> 00:22:36,454
- They made a big maze out
of the empty Chucky boxes.
475
00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:37,656
It was a lot of fun.
476
00:22:37,658 --> 00:22:40,259
And I remember, you
know, melting down Chucky
477
00:22:40,261 --> 00:22:41,660
with that hot wax.
478
00:22:41,662 --> 00:22:43,361
It wasn't really hot,
but it looked hot.
479
00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:44,697
- And then that
last sequence
480
00:22:44,699 --> 00:22:47,766
in the toy factory
is just incredible.
481
00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,536
Like that's, when you see
a movie about a killer toy,
482
00:22:50,538 --> 00:22:52,705
you want it to end
in a toy factory.
483
00:22:52,707 --> 00:22:56,275
- All those scenes were
action packed parts of the
film,
484
00:22:56,277 --> 00:22:57,710
but also time consuming.
485
00:22:57,712 --> 00:23:01,614
Because if it's more
demanding of us physically,
486
00:23:01,616 --> 00:23:03,616
it's most likely more
demanding of Chucky,
487
00:23:03,618 --> 00:23:06,752
and that means a lot of
extra puppeteer work.
488
00:23:06,754 --> 00:23:09,454
- It takes all nine
puppeteers to work him.
489
00:23:09,456 --> 00:23:12,291
We got a guy on legs,
a guy on one arm,
490
00:23:12,293 --> 00:23:13,692
a guy on another arm.
491
00:23:13,694 --> 00:23:15,961
Three facial puppeteers
working the lips,
492
00:23:15,963 --> 00:23:18,833
the brows, the eyes, a
puppeteer on the head and
body.
493
00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,469
- Andy! Hurry up he's
right behind you!
494
00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:27,773
- You
bastard!
495
00:23:27,775 --> 00:23:30,276
- You know, this small army
of technicians were needed
496
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:31,510
to bring Chucky to life.
497
00:23:31,512 --> 00:23:33,846
- It's really sort of
an animated movie.
498
00:23:33,848 --> 00:23:36,382
You know, it's shot in
live action and stuff,
499
00:23:36,384 --> 00:23:38,416
but he was
completely animated
500
00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:40,753
just in a sort of
a puppet sense.
501
00:23:40,755 --> 00:23:42,755
- And Kevin rounded up
some of the best of,
502
00:23:42,757 --> 00:23:44,857
you know, people
in the business.
503
00:23:44,859 --> 00:23:49,460
- The biggest challenge,
I think again, for us,
504
00:23:49,462 --> 00:23:50,829
the crew was to get,
and the puppeteers,
505
00:23:50,831 --> 00:23:53,766
was to get the doll to walk,
to give a convincing walk.
506
00:23:53,768 --> 00:23:58,570
- You've been very
naughty, Miss Kettlewell.
507
00:23:58,572 --> 00:24:00,539
- Now I consider
Kevin a friend,
508
00:24:00,541 --> 00:24:01,774
but then he was just sort
of like everybody there
509
00:24:01,776 --> 00:24:03,742
that was above me,
they were gods.
510
00:24:03,744 --> 00:24:06,645
- And the puppeteering that
went into bringing Chucky
511
00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:09,682
to life to do the
impossible, and they did it.
512
00:24:09,684 --> 00:24:12,318
- In the first film we
used a little person
513
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,386
and cut between the two.
514
00:24:14,388 --> 00:24:15,587
Kevin has now
made it possible
515
00:24:15,589 --> 00:24:17,256
that we don't need a
little person at all.
516
00:24:22,029 --> 00:24:25,431
- I was just really
enamored of being there.
517
00:24:25,433 --> 00:24:26,832
Especially when
we first started,
518
00:24:26,834 --> 00:24:28,801
the first half of the
schedule was on the lot at
Universal.
519
00:24:28,803 --> 00:24:30,703
And it was on a stage
that had, at the time,
520
00:24:30,705 --> 00:24:32,671
the oldest existing
set in the world.
521
00:24:32,673 --> 00:24:34,573
It was the opera
house from
522
00:24:34,575 --> 00:24:36,308
the original "Phantom
of the Opera"
523
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:37,710
which has since
burned down.
524
00:24:37,712 --> 00:24:39,511
But being on the
Universal lot where
525
00:24:39,513 --> 00:24:41,714
the Universal
monsters were born,
526
00:24:41,716 --> 00:24:43,549
and being a working
actress is just,
527
00:24:43,551 --> 00:24:44,683
you really feel
like an actor.
528
00:24:44,685 --> 00:24:46,618
You really feel
like you're part of
529
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,554
that historic community
when you're on one
530
00:24:48,556 --> 00:24:51,724
of those old lots,
they're so magical.
531
00:24:51,726 --> 00:24:56,230
- Please, I was
only playing.
532
00:24:57,298 --> 00:24:59,665
No!
533
00:25:11,846 --> 00:25:14,680
- "Child's Play 2" and three
were kind of shot
back-to-back.
534
00:25:14,682 --> 00:25:16,715
I think they were
rushed into production.
535
00:25:16,717 --> 00:25:18,817
They came out less
than a year apart.
536
00:25:18,819 --> 00:25:22,388
- They had Justin Whalin who
I've never met to this day.
537
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,390
But they had
him play Andy.
538
00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:25,691
- No offense to
Justin Whalin,
539
00:25:25,693 --> 00:25:28,260
but you know, I was so
attached to Alex who
540
00:25:28,262 --> 00:25:30,195
is the most adorable kid.
541
00:25:30,197 --> 00:25:31,730
Yeah, to have him recast.
542
00:25:31,732 --> 00:25:33,565
I understand they wanted to
age him up for story
purposes.
543
00:25:33,567 --> 00:25:35,367
- Because I was
not old enough.
544
00:25:35,369 --> 00:25:37,569
I was only 10
at the time.
545
00:25:37,571 --> 00:25:40,339
They wanted him to be 16
and have a girlfriend,
546
00:25:40,341 --> 00:25:41,740
and be in
military school.
547
00:25:41,742 --> 00:25:43,776
- And every project
that I've ever made,
548
00:25:43,778 --> 00:25:45,878
if you go through my
whole filmography,
549
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,648
they all deal with children,
whether it's "Hocus Pocus,"
550
00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:52,217
whether it's "An American
Tail" and a little Jewish
mouse,
551
00:25:52,219 --> 00:25:52,887
but they're all kids.
552
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:55,522
- When I heard that we
were making a third one,
553
00:25:55,524 --> 00:25:57,790
I assumed that I
would be in it.
554
00:25:57,792 --> 00:26:00,759
As a 10-year-old that was a
bit of a tough pill to
swallow.
555
00:26:00,761 --> 00:26:04,263
- To Andy Barclay and Chucky,
those are the projects
556
00:26:04,265 --> 00:26:05,564
that I'm attracted to,
557
00:26:05,566 --> 00:26:07,666
the exploration of childhood
is everything to me.
558
00:26:07,668 --> 00:26:10,803
To me, it forms who
we are as people.
559
00:26:10,805 --> 00:26:13,572
- What happens to real
people in real life
560
00:26:13,574 --> 00:26:16,475
when they have
violence happen?
561
00:26:16,477 --> 00:26:17,309
When you're a child,
I mean, you would,
562
00:26:17,311 --> 00:26:18,744
it would screw you up.
563
00:26:18,746 --> 00:26:20,513
- Somehow I saw it
though, when it came out.
564
00:26:20,515 --> 00:26:22,614
And you know, I
thought, yeah, okay.
565
00:26:22,616 --> 00:26:24,783
Maybe I'll look like that
when I'm 16. I don't know.
566
00:26:24,785 --> 00:26:27,686
I think he did a fine
job. The movie was fun.
567
00:26:27,688 --> 00:26:32,460
The one liners were becoming
a little more prominent.
568
00:26:33,461 --> 00:26:36,695
- Don't fuck with
the Chuck.
569
00:26:36,697 --> 00:26:38,697
- It's got, you know,
really good kills in it.
570
00:26:38,699 --> 00:26:40,833
- Just how sadistic
it is to make
571
00:26:40,835 --> 00:26:43,469
the kids kill each other,
instead of him doing the
work,
572
00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:44,603
by replacing
those paintballs
573
00:26:44,605 --> 00:26:46,405
with bullets and
live ammunition.
574
00:26:46,407 --> 00:26:47,706
That's nuts.
575
00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:50,543
- And Chucky's death scene
is spectacular in that film.
576
00:26:57,586 --> 00:27:00,185
- And then they end up
killing Chucky in the end.
577
00:27:00,187 --> 00:27:01,220
Or do they?
578
00:27:16,571 --> 00:27:18,937
- And we begin
"Bride of Chucky,"
579
00:27:18,939 --> 00:27:22,274
with his ex-girlfriend,
Tiffany, stitching him back
together
580
00:27:22,276 --> 00:27:23,610
and resurrecting him.
581
00:27:23,612 --> 00:27:26,245
- Ade
Due Damballa
582
00:27:26,247 --> 00:27:27,913
- Awake!
583
00:27:27,915 --> 00:27:31,551
- When I thought of that
character with "Bride of
Chucky,"
584
00:27:31,553 --> 00:27:33,418
I knew that, you know, it
needed to be a two-hander.
585
00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:38,525
- Awake. Awake, awake, awake!
586
00:27:38,527 --> 00:27:40,692
- This needed to be a
movie about a relationship
587
00:27:40,694 --> 00:27:42,461
between these
two characters.
588
00:27:42,463 --> 00:27:44,396
And so the "Bride
of Chucky" needed
589
00:27:44,398 --> 00:27:45,831
to be very different
from Chucky.
590
00:27:45,833 --> 00:27:48,700
- You look like Martha
Stewart with that thing.
591
00:27:48,702 --> 00:27:51,303
- Who the fuck is
Martha Stewart?
592
00:27:51,305 --> 00:27:52,804
- My idol.
593
00:27:52,806 --> 00:27:54,607
- They tried something
entirely new with "Bride"
594
00:27:54,609 --> 00:27:56,643
and really changed it up.
595
00:27:56,645 --> 00:28:00,479
- It very much was the
perfect adjustment
596
00:28:00,481 --> 00:28:03,815
of changing the
way Chucky was.
597
00:28:03,817 --> 00:28:05,552
That those movies were
into the way they needed
598
00:28:05,554 --> 00:28:07,452
to be for that era.
599
00:28:07,454 --> 00:28:09,454
- Introduced Tiffany
who just revitalizes
600
00:28:09,456 --> 00:28:10,689
the series, I think.
601
00:28:10,691 --> 00:28:12,525
- You know, Chucky
is kind of like
602
00:28:12,527 --> 00:28:14,726
more straightforwardly
blood thirsty.
603
00:28:14,728 --> 00:28:17,564
Whereas Tiffany,
you know, she has
604
00:28:17,566 --> 00:28:20,533
some conventional
wants in her life.
605
00:28:20,535 --> 00:28:22,434
She wants love. She
wants affection.
606
00:28:22,436 --> 00:28:23,536
She wants to
be understood.
607
00:28:23,538 --> 00:28:26,338
- Oh, that's so romantic.
608
00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:28,675
- I give them six months.
609
00:28:28,677 --> 00:28:30,577
- And Tiffany is based
on my friend Ronna.
610
00:28:30,579 --> 00:28:32,411
Tiffany looks
just like Ronna.
611
00:28:32,413 --> 00:28:33,546
That's how those
two came to be.
612
00:28:33,548 --> 00:28:35,414
Which of course,
is Jennifer Tilly.
613
00:28:35,416 --> 00:28:37,082
- David Kirschner,
I adore him.
614
00:28:37,084 --> 00:28:38,350
He's the one that
came to me at
615
00:28:38,352 --> 00:28:40,452
the very beginning
when I was sort of,
616
00:28:40,454 --> 00:28:41,887
I was sort of like
digging in my heels.
617
00:28:41,889 --> 00:28:43,922
Like, I don't know if I
wanna do a Chucky movie.
618
00:28:43,924 --> 00:28:46,458
And I didn't know anything
about Chucky movies at the
time.
619
00:28:46,460 --> 00:28:48,661
But he said, "I
want to meet you."
620
00:28:48,663 --> 00:28:50,530
He did a whole
presentation.
621
00:28:50,532 --> 00:28:52,464
We went to the
Bel Air hotel.
622
00:28:52,466 --> 00:28:54,032
He had the Chucky
doll in the trunk.
623
00:28:54,034 --> 00:28:57,736
He brought it out very
reverentially like, this is
Chucky.
624
00:28:57,738 --> 00:29:00,573
Like he was introducing
me to Chucky.
625
00:29:00,575 --> 00:29:02,341
- I didn't know Jennifer
Tilly before that,
626
00:29:02,343 --> 00:29:03,710
but I had written
it for her.
627
00:29:03,712 --> 00:29:05,545
And then, you know, and
just well of course,
628
00:29:05,547 --> 00:29:06,646
that's not gonna
work out,
629
00:29:06,648 --> 00:29:08,313
'cause things like
that rarely work out.
630
00:29:08,315 --> 00:29:09,682
But then she
wanted to do it.
631
00:29:09,684 --> 00:29:11,783
- I think he felt like
once I saw the Chucky doll,
632
00:29:11,785 --> 00:29:13,686
and once I heard what
Chucky was all about,
633
00:29:13,688 --> 00:29:15,555
of course I would
fall in love with
634
00:29:15,557 --> 00:29:17,389
the whole Chucky franchise
and come on board.
635
00:29:17,391 --> 00:29:18,625
Which I actually did.
636
00:29:18,627 --> 00:29:20,425
He did a very good job
of selling me on it.
637
00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:22,729
- After having
done three sort
638
00:29:22,731 --> 00:29:26,499
of straightforward,
relatively conventional horror
movies,
639
00:29:26,501 --> 00:29:29,434
that we, you know,
reinvented it as a comedy.
640
00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:31,537
And she was a big
part of that.
641
00:29:31,539 --> 00:29:34,439
- When slasher series
reach their burnout phase,
642
00:29:34,441 --> 00:29:36,576
the creators do one
of two things.
643
00:29:36,578 --> 00:29:39,646
They either make the
subsequent chapters comedic,
644
00:29:39,648 --> 00:29:41,748
horror comedies, or
they play for laughs.
645
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:44,783
Or they take their killers
and put them in outer space.
646
00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:46,686
So in the case of "Bride
of Chucky," I was relieved
647
00:29:46,688 --> 00:29:48,588
that they made
it more comedic.
648
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,389
- I was really unprepared
for, you know,
649
00:29:50,391 --> 00:29:53,660
the humor and
the history,
650
00:29:53,662 --> 00:29:56,828
and just the really great
writing and great
characters.
651
00:29:56,830 --> 00:29:59,666
- The Chucky films were
definitely revolutionary
652
00:29:59,668 --> 00:30:01,768
in introducing
gay characters.
653
00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:04,637
- It was important to
me with these movies
654
00:30:04,639 --> 00:30:06,874
to constantly appeal
to that subset.
655
00:30:08,242 --> 00:30:11,209
That has sort of
steamrolled over the last,
656
00:30:11,211 --> 00:30:12,477
since "Bride of Chucky""
657
00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:13,680
is when we started
making it pretty gay.
658
00:30:13,682 --> 00:30:15,581
- Don is gay and
he's had a lot
659
00:30:15,583 --> 00:30:18,216
of really interesting
sympathetic gay characters
660
00:30:18,218 --> 00:30:19,552
in the franchise.
661
00:30:19,554 --> 00:30:20,852
For example, the best friend
in the "Bride of Chucky."
662
00:30:20,854 --> 00:30:23,723
- And the Alexis Arquette
character and Tiffany.
663
00:30:23,725 --> 00:30:25,658
You know, Jennifer Tilly
has always appealed
664
00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:27,426
to a gay audience,
probably dating back
665
00:30:27,428 --> 00:30:28,795
to her role in "Bound."
666
00:30:28,797 --> 00:30:31,698
- My favorite scene, sadly,
is when I was killed.
667
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:33,533
It's when Tiffany
was in the bathtub.
668
00:30:33,535 --> 00:30:35,668
I thought it was
so cinematic.
669
00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:39,438
When I'm watching the
"Bride of Frankenstein"
670
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,906
and I'm starting to cry,
671
00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:43,676
'cause I can relate to the
"Bride of Frankenstein."
672
00:30:43,678 --> 00:30:45,611
And then Chucky starts
walking down the hall
673
00:30:45,613 --> 00:30:47,747
in his little
Chucky legs.
674
00:30:47,749 --> 00:30:50,882
And then he throws the
TV into the bathtub.
675
00:30:50,884 --> 00:30:53,686
And I'm screaming, and "Bride
of Frankenstein" is
screaming.
676
00:30:53,688 --> 00:30:56,254
And "Bride of Frankenstein"
pops up, and I go under.
677
00:31:03,565 --> 00:31:05,698
it's just so
beautifully shot.
678
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:07,600
- Just the idea that the
surging electricity would
cause
679
00:31:07,602 --> 00:31:09,669
all these bubbles
to waft.
680
00:31:09,671 --> 00:31:11,571
I always just thought
that's such a cool image.
681
00:31:11,573 --> 00:31:12,638
- That's what's
so brilliant
682
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,674
about Don's creation
of that scene.
683
00:31:14,676 --> 00:31:17,409
You have bubbles set
against murder.
684
00:31:17,411 --> 00:31:19,679
- It just was
special to me,
685
00:31:19,681 --> 00:31:24,418
because I felt like I took a
step in confidence as a
writer.
686
00:31:24,586 --> 00:31:26,719
I didn't direct that
one. I just wrote it.
687
00:31:26,721 --> 00:31:30,757
And the director and
cinematographer on that
movie
688
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,258
were these amazing
Chinese filmmakers,
689
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:34,694
Ronny Yu and Peter Pau.
690
00:31:34,696 --> 00:31:36,495
And it's like, you would
walk on the set every day,
691
00:31:36,497 --> 00:31:38,664
it was just so beautiful.
692
00:31:38,666 --> 00:31:40,566
- I think everybody loves
the makeover that she did,
693
00:31:40,568 --> 00:31:41,768
where she was
just like your
694
00:31:41,770 --> 00:31:44,002
a run of the mill
middle class doll.
695
00:31:44,004 --> 00:31:47,540
And all of a sudden she's
putting on black nail
polish,
696
00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:50,643
and combat boots and making
herself like a real badass.
697
00:31:50,645 --> 00:31:53,880
- She's kind of gorg, and
like kind of looks amaze.
698
00:31:53,882 --> 00:31:56,582
If she was like a really cool
scene girl in real life,
699
00:31:56,584 --> 00:31:57,550
you know what I mean?
700
00:32:00,588 --> 00:32:03,790
- Barbie, eat
your heart out.
701
00:32:03,792 --> 00:32:07,560
- It's probably it's
anywhere minimal seven
people
702
00:32:07,562 --> 00:32:10,763
but it can take up to eight
or nine people per puppet.
703
00:32:10,765 --> 00:32:14,466
- Very complicated
coordination.
704
00:32:14,468 --> 00:32:17,335
If you're dealing with
just puppet alone,
705
00:32:17,337 --> 00:32:18,671
puppet and puppet,
it's easier.
706
00:32:18,673 --> 00:32:21,239
- We did hours, and
hours, and hours,
707
00:32:21,241 --> 00:32:23,676
and hours of ADR on that.
708
00:32:23,678 --> 00:32:25,410
- If you had the
interaction with between,
709
00:32:25,412 --> 00:32:26,913
you know, human actor
710
00:32:26,915 --> 00:32:30,683
it has to be really figured
out early on in advance
711
00:32:30,685 --> 00:32:33,318
and then has to have
a lot of rehearsal.
712
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,787
- They set up
these two booths,
713
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:36,656
so when we were doing the
lines we could look at each
other.
714
00:32:36,658 --> 00:32:38,524
It was really amazing
working off of such
715
00:32:38,526 --> 00:32:39,692
a great actor as him.
716
00:32:39,694 --> 00:32:41,727
You know, sometimes
I would improvise,
717
00:32:41,729 --> 00:32:43,696
and then he gives
something right back.
718
00:32:43,698 --> 00:32:46,398
- She's just really funny.
- She brilliant at improv.
719
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,568
Way, I mean, I'm
not even close to.
720
00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:49,569
She's in a
different class.
721
00:32:49,571 --> 00:32:51,637
- And what does
Martha tell you do
722
00:32:51,639 --> 00:32:53,405
when guests drop
by for dinner
723
00:32:53,407 --> 00:32:55,209
and you haven't
had time to shop?
724
00:32:56,443 --> 00:32:58,644
You improvise.
725
00:32:58,646 --> 00:33:00,513
- Upon discovering where
Charles Lee Ray's body
726
00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:02,548
was buried,
there's an amulet
727
00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:05,484
that can restore them
back to human form.
728
00:33:05,486 --> 00:33:06,886
- All right, let's go.
729
00:33:06,888 --> 00:33:10,523
- Oh, sure. I'll steer and
you can work the pedals.
730
00:33:10,525 --> 00:33:12,725
We're dolls, you dope!
731
00:33:12,727 --> 00:33:15,661
- They arrange for Tiffany's
neighbor to drive them
there.
732
00:33:15,663 --> 00:33:18,798
And they don't know that
all the dolls are alive.
733
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,500
- Of course, they don't
realize that these dolls
734
00:33:20,502 --> 00:33:22,502
are committing murders
along the way.
735
00:33:22,504 --> 00:33:24,504
Murders which the
kids themselves
736
00:33:24,506 --> 00:33:26,873
are then implicated for.
737
00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:29,575
- So in the process, they
end up getting married.
738
00:33:29,577 --> 00:33:31,443
- Chucky having a
bride, Tifanny,
739
00:33:31,445 --> 00:33:32,845
it sort of humanizes
him a little bit.
740
00:33:32,847 --> 00:33:34,747
Because now you can
relate to the character.
741
00:33:34,749 --> 00:33:37,482
He's not just like a
homicidal little maniac.
742
00:33:37,484 --> 00:33:39,585
He has a lot of problems
that most men have.
743
00:33:39,587 --> 00:33:41,821
You know, like a
nagging girlfriend
744
00:33:41,823 --> 00:33:43,488
that complains she's
not getting enough sex.
745
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:45,457
- The love stuff
746
00:33:45,459 --> 00:33:49,327
between Chucky and
Tiffany, both as dolls,
747
00:33:49,329 --> 00:33:51,933
was just so
cute.
748
00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:54,700
And fun.
749
00:33:54,702 --> 00:33:56,669
- But then you had sex
in it, which was good.
750
00:33:56,671 --> 00:33:58,336
That the "Bride of
Chucky" had actually
751
00:33:58,338 --> 00:34:00,274
added sex to horror.
752
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:03,441
You never, like Godzilla
didn't have sex.
753
00:34:03,443 --> 00:34:06,444
Frankenstein
didn't jerk off.
754
00:34:06,446 --> 00:34:07,780
We didn't have
that, really.
755
00:34:07,782 --> 00:34:11,249
We didn't have the
monsters having a sex life,
756
00:34:11,251 --> 00:34:12,852
where Chucky did.
757
00:34:12,854 --> 00:34:16,488
- And some of the best
stuff were totally improv.
758
00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:18,390
"You generally wear
prophylactics?"
759
00:34:18,392 --> 00:34:21,094
"Tiff, I am a
fucking rubber."
760
00:34:21,563 --> 00:34:23,161
- Have
I got a rubber?
761
00:34:23,163 --> 00:34:24,262
- Yeah.
762
00:34:24,264 --> 00:34:25,463
- Tiff.
763
00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:26,364
- What?
- Look at me!
764
00:34:26,366 --> 00:34:27,767
I'm all rubber!
765
00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:29,535
- Brad, he was looking
at me all the time,
766
00:34:29,537 --> 00:34:30,736
'cause he was
doing the lines.
767
00:34:30,738 --> 00:34:33,606
And at the end of the movie
when my character died,
768
00:34:33,608 --> 00:34:36,542
I looked over there and tears
were streaming down his
face.
769
00:34:36,544 --> 00:34:38,310
He was so sad.
770
00:34:38,312 --> 00:34:39,745
And then I started
crying too.
771
00:34:39,747 --> 00:34:41,681
And then afterwards
he said to Don,
772
00:34:41,683 --> 00:34:44,449
"How come I haven't
had a wife sooner?"
773
00:34:44,451 --> 00:34:47,218
- And they end up
having a baby.
774
00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:04,604
- So what
led you to take
775
00:35:04,606 --> 00:35:06,539
on Tony Gardner as head
of the effects department
776
00:35:06,541 --> 00:35:08,440
in "Seed" going forward?
777
00:35:08,442 --> 00:35:09,842
Why was there
that switch?
778
00:35:09,844 --> 00:35:12,745
- Well, what happened was
that Kevin Yagher had worked
779
00:35:12,747 --> 00:35:14,245
with us on the
first four films.
780
00:35:14,247 --> 00:35:15,748
Done a great job.
781
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:18,383
His wife is Catherine
Hicks who played
782
00:35:18,385 --> 00:35:19,417
the mom in the
first film.
783
00:35:19,419 --> 00:35:20,485
All was great.
784
00:35:20,487 --> 00:35:22,454
And then when
we were going
785
00:35:22,456 --> 00:35:24,422
to make our fifth
film, Universal could
786
00:35:24,424 --> 00:35:25,591
not make the
deal with him.
787
00:35:25,593 --> 00:35:27,526
They were just
too far apart.
788
00:35:27,528 --> 00:35:29,629
We were cutting our
budget very far back.
789
00:35:29,631 --> 00:35:33,599
- As your slasher series
go on each subsequent film
790
00:35:33,601 --> 00:35:35,501
makes less than the
one before it.
791
00:35:35,503 --> 00:35:37,870
So there's
diminishing returns.
792
00:35:37,872 --> 00:35:42,474
So yeah, the money men
tend to slash the budget.
793
00:35:42,476 --> 00:35:45,443
- And they
wouldn't budge.
794
00:35:45,445 --> 00:35:46,746
And they were
unfair to someone
795
00:35:46,748 --> 00:35:48,914
that had been really loyal
and had done a great job.
796
00:35:48,916 --> 00:35:51,784
- I loved what Tony Gardner
brought to the series as
well.
797
00:35:51,786 --> 00:35:53,786
- Then there was the
opportunity to meet him.
798
00:35:53,788 --> 00:35:56,589
And because we had done
"Hocus Pocus" together,
799
00:35:56,591 --> 00:35:59,792
to call him and say, "Are you
interested in doing this?
800
00:35:59,794 --> 00:36:01,794
It's Chucky, you'd be
taking over for Kevin."
801
00:36:01,796 --> 00:36:04,664
And I think he was a
little hesitant of that.
802
00:36:04,666 --> 00:36:07,265
He's a loyal person
and loyal to his craft.
803
00:36:07,267 --> 00:36:08,136
But I said, you know,
804
00:36:08,201 --> 00:36:09,835
"If it's not you it's
gonna be somebody.
805
00:36:09,837 --> 00:36:12,571
And you did such a
great job on 'Hocus.'
806
00:36:12,573 --> 00:36:13,706
Would you consider this?"
807
00:36:13,708 --> 00:36:15,641
Have you ever done
anything like this?"
808
00:36:15,643 --> 00:36:16,776
And he said, "Well, not
bring a doll to life,
809
00:36:16,778 --> 00:36:18,410
but I've done plenty
of other things,
810
00:36:18,412 --> 00:36:19,712
bringing things to life."
811
00:36:19,714 --> 00:36:22,414
So Don and I went out
and met with him.
812
00:36:22,416 --> 00:36:23,816
- I like working
with smart people,
813
00:36:23,818 --> 00:36:27,352
because they're allies when
you're making it together,
814
00:36:27,354 --> 00:36:28,854
as he definitely was.
815
00:36:28,856 --> 00:36:31,791
- And it's been this
partnership ever since.
816
00:36:31,793 --> 00:36:34,627
- Chucky and the
puppeteers, you all have
817
00:36:34,629 --> 00:36:37,830
to like descend together
into this fantasy.
818
00:36:37,832 --> 00:36:41,634
We all have to go into
this realm of this place
819
00:36:41,636 --> 00:36:43,502
that we've created and
make it believable.
820
00:36:43,504 --> 00:36:44,503
- It's queued up.
821
00:36:46,774 --> 00:36:50,945
- What? Oh, sorry.
You were saying.
822
00:36:51,546 --> 00:36:53,278
That's a cut.
823
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,479
Tony, you guys happy?
824
00:36:54,481 --> 00:36:55,447
- Yeah, let's
go with that.
825
00:36:55,449 --> 00:36:57,817
- I find a thrill
in making something
826
00:36:57,819 --> 00:37:02,123
that isn't real be perceived
as real to somebody else.
827
00:37:02,724 --> 00:37:04,790
It was sort of an
odd start for us,
828
00:37:04,792 --> 00:37:07,793
because we were supposed to
copy Kevin Yagher's puppets.
829
00:37:07,795 --> 00:37:11,797
But we had no resources from
Universal or from Kevin.
830
00:37:11,799 --> 00:37:15,668
All we had to go from
VHS copies of the movie.
831
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:18,671
We would freeze the
VHS copy of the movie
832
00:37:18,673 --> 00:37:21,707
and take stills
off of the TV.
833
00:37:21,709 --> 00:37:23,676
And that was our
point of reference.
834
00:37:23,678 --> 00:37:26,579
We had like three months
to build everything.
835
00:37:26,581 --> 00:37:29,648
And then we were off to
Romania and right into it.
836
00:37:29,650 --> 00:37:32,651
We had a whole team
of puppeteers come in
837
00:37:32,653 --> 00:37:34,687
from England
to support us.
838
00:37:34,689 --> 00:37:37,489
There were five of us
from the United States,
839
00:37:37,491 --> 00:37:40,526
and then another 15
people from the UK.
840
00:37:40,528 --> 00:37:42,561
So we had amazing
resources,
841
00:37:42,563 --> 00:37:45,631
and just had a
great time.
842
00:37:45,633 --> 00:37:47,465
Another thing that was
really fun was getting
843
00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:50,435
to sort of design Glen
from the ground up.
844
00:37:50,437 --> 00:37:51,837
We knew he had to
have sharp teeth,
845
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:54,472
because that had been
established in "Bride."
846
00:37:54,474 --> 00:37:56,575
But other than
that we were free
847
00:37:56,577 --> 00:37:59,344
to play with Glen, which
was really awesome.
848
00:37:59,346 --> 00:38:00,813
- And I love how
Glen looks.
849
00:38:00,815 --> 00:38:03,849
He looks like a Walter
Keane painting,
850
00:38:03,851 --> 00:38:07,720
or Margaret Keane who
actually did them, gone to
horror.
851
00:38:07,722 --> 00:38:09,757
- It was just kind
of fun, you know.
852
00:38:10,658 --> 00:38:13,626
Just trying to invent
who this character is.
853
00:38:13,628 --> 00:38:15,561
Don had this idea
that it should be
854
00:38:15,563 --> 00:38:18,429
a sort of Dickensian
character.
855
00:38:18,431 --> 00:38:20,666
It should be like
Oliver Twist.
856
00:38:20,668 --> 00:38:22,501
- Don felt strongly
that it would be great
857
00:38:22,503 --> 00:38:26,337
to explore further
the family dynamics
858
00:38:26,339 --> 00:38:28,641
of including this child.
859
00:38:28,643 --> 00:38:31,744
- Look, I still have the
necklace you left me.
860
00:38:31,746 --> 00:38:34,513
- It just seemed natural
that we would evolve
861
00:38:34,515 --> 00:38:36,549
into a domestic drama.
862
00:38:36,551 --> 00:38:37,783
- "Seed of Chucky"
I think was one
863
00:38:37,785 --> 00:38:39,785
of the most bizarre
experiences of my life.
864
00:38:39,787 --> 00:38:42,555
It's just really bizarre
to be looking at
865
00:38:42,557 --> 00:38:45,524
a little tiny doll with her
little eyes blinking, going,
866
00:38:45,526 --> 00:38:48,294
"Miss Tilly, you can
do it the easy way.
867
00:38:48,296 --> 00:38:50,497
- Or the hard way.
868
00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:52,531
- I was playing myself,
Jennifer Tilly,
869
00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,501
international film star.
870
00:38:55,503 --> 00:38:58,504
I was playing Tiffany,
a talking doll
871
00:38:58,506 --> 00:38:59,905
that was my biggest fan.
872
00:38:59,907 --> 00:39:04,475
And then I played Tiffany
in Jennifer Tilly's body.
873
00:39:04,477 --> 00:39:07,513
- Jennifer completely
mocks herself in this movie
874
00:39:07,515 --> 00:39:09,014
in a way that I think
people will love her for.
875
00:39:09,016 --> 00:39:12,483
- How come I don't ever get
any of the good roles
anymore?
876
00:39:12,485 --> 00:39:15,221
How come nobody
takes me seriously?
877
00:39:15,223 --> 00:39:16,322
- Nice tits.
878
00:39:16,324 --> 00:39:17,355
- Thank you.
879
00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:18,791
- Yeah, I had a partner,
880
00:39:18,793 --> 00:39:22,528
you know, we were
arguing and smooching,
881
00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:24,599
and you know, doing
whatever we were doing.
882
00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:28,466
You know, murdering
together.
883
00:39:28,468 --> 00:39:29,535
- Having a kid together.
884
00:39:29,537 --> 00:39:31,537
- Having a kid together.
885
00:39:31,539 --> 00:39:33,572
- I knew Brad because
of "Lord of the Rings."
886
00:39:33,574 --> 00:39:35,708
Brad of course,
is Wormtongue.
887
00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:37,676
- Did you
guys ever get to be
888
00:39:37,678 --> 00:39:39,545
in the booth together when
you did voiceover for
"Seed"?
889
00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:41,680
- Nah, it was just me.
890
00:39:41,682 --> 00:39:44,415
Don had all these
pictures of what everybody
891
00:39:44,417 --> 00:39:45,684
was going to look like.
892
00:39:45,686 --> 00:39:48,587
And then he had
readings of most of
893
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:50,556
the other characters
for the scene,
894
00:39:50,558 --> 00:39:52,524
so I knew how
they played it.
895
00:39:52,526 --> 00:39:53,559
But we didn't
play it together.
896
00:39:53,561 --> 00:39:55,794
- So I had different
voices for Tiffany.
897
00:39:55,796 --> 00:39:58,463
When Tiffany was a
person I had sort of like
898
00:39:58,465 --> 00:40:00,499
a Marilyn Monroe-esque,
like kind of,
899
00:40:00,501 --> 00:40:02,635
like white trashy voice.
900
00:40:02,637 --> 00:40:04,637
And then when she
went into the doll,
901
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:06,437
I made it more of
a tinny voice.
902
00:40:06,439 --> 00:40:07,506
'Cause I figured the
doll doesn't have
903
00:40:07,508 --> 00:40:08,641
like really strong
vocal chords.
904
00:40:08,643 --> 00:40:09,508
So I made it more of
a doll-like voice.
905
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:11,510
- Yes, he is.
906
00:40:11,512 --> 00:40:13,312
- Joan, will you please
stop doing that?
907
00:40:13,314 --> 00:40:14,513
- Doing what?
908
00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:16,481
- Imitating me. I do
not sound like that!
909
00:40:16,483 --> 00:40:17,750
- Oh yes you do.
910
00:40:17,752 --> 00:40:19,818
- And then when she went
into Jennifer Tilly,
911
00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:21,720
I sort of had to do a
little bit of the doll,
912
00:40:21,722 --> 00:40:23,656
a little bit of
the human Tiffany
913
00:40:23,658 --> 00:40:25,691
in Jennifer
Tilly's voice.
914
00:40:25,693 --> 00:40:28,527
- All right, Fulvia, if
that's what you want.
915
00:40:28,529 --> 00:40:30,362
- And then we wanted
the difference
916
00:40:30,364 --> 00:40:32,430
between Glen and Glenda.
917
00:40:32,432 --> 00:40:34,500
Glen's a sort of
more proper English.
918
00:40:34,502 --> 00:40:35,734
- I saw you on the telly.
919
00:40:35,736 --> 00:40:39,672
- And then Glenda's a bit
more, kind of cockney.
920
00:40:39,674 --> 00:40:42,708
- That's my name. Don't
you wear it out.
921
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:46,412
- I especially love
Billy Boyd's rendition
922
00:40:46,414 --> 00:40:48,479
of those characters.
923
00:40:48,481 --> 00:40:51,650
- Stop it, Mommy. You'll
wrinkle me dress.
924
00:40:51,652 --> 00:40:54,720
- Stop it, Mommy. You'll
wrinkle my dress.
925
00:40:54,722 --> 00:40:57,323
- I love him, and I
love Glen and Glenda.
926
00:40:57,325 --> 00:40:58,557
But a feel an
affection for them,
927
00:40:58,559 --> 00:40:59,725
because they're
my children.
928
00:40:59,727 --> 00:41:01,860
You never stop loving
your children.
929
00:41:01,862 --> 00:41:04,863
- Glen's cute, he would
be in a punk rock bar.
930
00:41:04,865 --> 00:41:09,401
You know, he looks like a
kind of boy I'd date.
931
00:41:09,403 --> 00:41:11,337
- I really love Glen.
932
00:41:11,339 --> 00:41:12,738
I think he's
really funny.
933
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:16,508
But I also find him
poignant in a way.
934
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:18,444
And when we were
making the movie,
935
00:41:18,446 --> 00:41:19,378
there were times
where we like,
936
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:21,714
oh, this is kind of sad.
937
00:41:21,716 --> 00:41:23,849
You remember when
Glen kills Chucky,
938
00:41:23,851 --> 00:41:26,285
and he chops him up and
he's just devastated.
939
00:41:26,287 --> 00:41:27,653
And he's crying.
940
00:41:27,655 --> 00:41:29,822
And Jennifer Tilly is
like comforting him.
941
00:41:29,824 --> 00:41:32,191
We're all kind of like
getting a little like
942
00:41:32,193 --> 00:41:34,526
oh, this is sad.
943
00:41:34,528 --> 00:41:37,529
But people didn't respond
correctly at first.
944
00:41:37,531 --> 00:41:39,631
- Glen/Glenda was the
first trans kid,
945
00:41:39,633 --> 00:41:42,634
doll trans kid, that was ever
portrayed in the movies.
946
00:41:42,636 --> 00:41:44,670
- It's maybe one of
the greatest things
947
00:41:44,672 --> 00:41:48,440
about "Seed" I think, is
this kind of transgender,
948
00:41:48,442 --> 00:41:49,641
you know, confused.
949
00:41:49,643 --> 00:41:51,677
- Sometimes I
feel like a boy.
950
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:53,545
Sometimes I feel
like a girl.
951
00:41:53,547 --> 00:41:56,348
- And his parents
don't help.
952
00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:59,785
It's a big, parent's
please help.
953
00:41:59,787 --> 00:42:02,755
- In my mission to make the
franchise gayer and gayer,
954
00:42:02,757 --> 00:42:06,358
we address this in a
movie that maybe like
955
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,560
the audience
wasn't ready for.
956
00:42:08,562 --> 00:42:10,496
- I don't think "Seed
of Chucky" was rejected
957
00:42:10,498 --> 00:42:12,331
because of those themes.
958
00:42:12,333 --> 00:42:13,665
I think the film
was embraced
959
00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:16,468
by that niche part
of the audience.
960
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:19,671
- Now, people are more
interested in that.
961
00:42:19,673 --> 00:42:22,474
- Don, in a strange way
through the Chucky movies
962
00:42:22,476 --> 00:42:24,511
he sort of educates.
963
00:42:24,513 --> 00:42:27,646
And makes people feel
compassion for people
964
00:42:27,648 --> 00:42:29,448
that are not
like themselves.
965
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:30,783
- Partly you're like,
write what you know.
966
00:42:30,785 --> 00:42:32,484
But I also, there's
just a part of me
967
00:42:32,486 --> 00:42:34,521
that it amused me.
968
00:42:34,523 --> 00:42:37,389
The idea of like kind of
turning what had become
969
00:42:37,391 --> 00:42:39,725
a cultural icon
on its head,
970
00:42:39,727 --> 00:42:42,561
and making the franchise be
almost like an ambassador
971
00:42:42,563 --> 00:42:45,497
for like gay horror fans.
972
00:42:45,499 --> 00:42:47,833
- Gay people have always
embraced horror films,
973
00:42:47,835 --> 00:42:50,836
because they've always been
able to relate to the
monster.
974
00:42:50,838 --> 00:42:54,640
The Frankenstein monster
who's being persecuted
975
00:42:54,642 --> 00:42:56,644
and aren't getting
a fair shake.
976
00:42:58,112 --> 00:43:01,713
That's probably why they
gravitate towards horror
films,
977
00:43:01,715 --> 00:43:04,750
'cause they see themselves
in some of these characters.
978
00:43:04,752 --> 00:43:06,452
- I think gay people
always liked horror movies,
979
00:43:06,454 --> 00:43:08,821
'cause they're drama
queens.
980
00:43:08,823 --> 00:43:11,524
- I think perhaps it was
rejected more for the fact
981
00:43:11,526 --> 00:43:13,526
that so much of it was
played for laughs,
982
00:43:13,528 --> 00:43:14,760
and it was jokey
and silly.
983
00:43:14,762 --> 00:43:16,695
- These films have
really evolved
984
00:43:16,697 --> 00:43:19,499
from being a really
frightening first film,
985
00:43:19,501 --> 00:43:21,266
to moving much
more into the area
986
00:43:21,268 --> 00:43:22,768
of being horror comedies.
987
00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:25,304
- The film was a little
too far over the top
988
00:43:25,306 --> 00:43:27,706
in terms of the humor and
989
00:43:27,708 --> 00:43:29,875
the outrageousness
of the storyline.
990
00:43:29,877 --> 00:43:32,545
- This one sort of took
it all one step further.
991
00:43:32,547 --> 00:43:34,880
I don't know, it's sort of
spoofing on top of spoofing.
992
00:43:34,882 --> 00:43:38,217
- You can catch their movie
in theaters next Halloween.
993
00:43:38,219 --> 00:43:38,886
Thank you, Chucky.
994
00:43:40,221 --> 00:43:42,589
- Fuck you very much.
995
00:43:42,591 --> 00:43:44,756
- I think that was a little
too much for horror fans
996
00:43:44,758 --> 00:43:47,726
who just go to see a
movie for blood and guts.
997
00:43:47,728 --> 00:43:50,796
Horror fans really want
their scares and their gore.
998
00:43:50,798 --> 00:43:53,600
And even though the film
definitely had its gore
moments,
999
00:43:53,602 --> 00:43:55,801
some really grotesque
death scenes.
1000
00:43:55,803 --> 00:43:58,337
- What is one of
your favorite death scenes?
1001
00:43:58,339 --> 00:44:01,707
- Glen accidentally
kills, uh...
1002
00:44:01,709 --> 00:44:03,175
- Are talking
about with the acid?
1003
00:44:03,177 --> 00:44:04,209
- Yeah.
1004
00:44:04,211 --> 00:44:04,845
- John Waters.
1005
00:44:05,379 --> 00:44:09,381
- John Waters. I liked that,
'cause it was accidental.
1006
00:44:09,383 --> 00:44:10,517
He didn't mean it.
1007
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,484
- You know, he loved
the Chucky movies,
1008
00:44:12,486 --> 00:44:14,753
and he always wanted to
be a victim of Chucky.
1009
00:44:14,755 --> 00:44:16,355
You should ask
him about that.
1010
00:44:16,357 --> 00:44:17,723
- Well, I wanted to, yes.
1011
00:44:17,725 --> 00:44:20,459
So I was thrilled
to be injured
1012
00:44:20,461 --> 00:44:22,161
and thrown acid in my
face, even better.
1013
00:44:28,637 --> 00:44:30,802
- But the first
day I remembered,
1014
00:44:30,804 --> 00:44:33,506
the first take was
Chucky was coming at me.
1015
00:44:33,508 --> 00:44:35,508
He moves, it's
actually not like
1016
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:37,544
they put that in later
and his mouth opens
1017
00:44:37,546 --> 00:44:38,410
and you hear
what he says.
1018
00:44:38,412 --> 00:44:39,512
So he's coming at me,
1019
00:44:39,514 --> 00:44:41,413
and then they say cut.
1020
00:44:41,415 --> 00:44:42,681
And you know,
he falls down.
1021
00:44:42,683 --> 00:44:44,249
Then all of a sudden
he looks up at me
1022
00:44:44,251 --> 00:44:45,317
and goes, "Fuck you."
1023
00:44:45,319 --> 00:44:47,286
It was the puppeteers
working him,
1024
00:44:47,288 --> 00:44:48,854
which really
made me laugh.
1025
00:44:48,856 --> 00:44:52,525
- In "Seed of Chucky" Guy
Louthan played Don Mancini.
1026
00:44:52,527 --> 00:44:54,693
So if you look at the
credits in "Seed of Chucky,"
1027
00:44:54,695 --> 00:44:57,362
it says, Don Mancini
played by Guy Louthan,
1028
00:44:57,364 --> 00:44:58,797
who was the producer.
1029
00:44:58,799 --> 00:45:01,634
And I really felt like Don
should play Guy Louthan.
1030
00:45:01,636 --> 00:45:03,435
Play the actual
producer in the movie,
1031
00:45:03,437 --> 00:45:04,571
or play somebody else.
1032
00:45:04,573 --> 00:45:06,673
But he didn't
want to do it.
1033
00:45:06,675 --> 00:45:09,642
- Just Tony
playing himself.
1034
00:45:09,644 --> 00:45:12,244
And then the puppets getting
revenge on the puppeteer.
1035
00:45:17,851 --> 00:45:21,621
- Yeah, I think the
audience might have felt
1036
00:45:21,623 --> 00:45:23,690
that Don was being a
little too clever,
1037
00:45:23,692 --> 00:45:26,725
and a little too in-jokey
for their own taste.
1038
00:45:26,727 --> 00:45:29,696
- It would have been
absolutely de rigueur
1039
00:45:29,698 --> 00:45:32,397
for the people in
charge to say like,
1040
00:45:32,399 --> 00:45:34,299
"Okay, it's time to
get some new blood
1041
00:45:34,301 --> 00:45:35,501
in here now,
1042
00:45:35,503 --> 00:45:37,004
'cause that didn't
work out so well."
1043
00:45:38,506 --> 00:45:40,573
But David didn't he
stayed loyal to me.
1044
00:45:40,575 --> 00:45:42,609
- He works so hard,
he cares so much.
1045
00:45:42,611 --> 00:45:44,343
I've never worked
with a director
1046
00:45:44,345 --> 00:45:46,546
that does not
lose his cool.
1047
00:45:46,548 --> 00:45:48,780
- You're under a clock, and
how are we gonna do this?
1048
00:45:48,782 --> 00:45:51,885
And it's kind of
constantly traumatic.
1049
00:45:53,387 --> 00:45:55,854
But that's a bonding
experience.
1050
00:45:55,856 --> 00:46:00,995
- So there is very much a
wonderful, familial flavor to
it.
1051
00:46:01,262 --> 00:46:02,562
- You get really close.
1052
00:46:02,564 --> 00:46:04,496
I mean, you're
literally close.
1053
00:46:04,498 --> 00:46:06,532
You're sandwiched
under a desk,
1054
00:46:06,534 --> 00:46:09,702
or working side-by-side,
or on top of somebody.
1055
00:46:09,704 --> 00:46:12,437
And you have to really
find a collective mindset
1056
00:46:12,439 --> 00:46:14,540
to make the
character work.
1057
00:46:14,542 --> 00:46:16,576
I mean, if somebody's
doing the eyes,
1058
00:46:16,578 --> 00:46:17,677
and someone else
is doing the head,
1059
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:19,646
the eyes have to lead
the head movement,
1060
00:46:19,648 --> 00:46:21,246
And usually there's
a blink in there,
1061
00:46:21,248 --> 00:46:22,414
and that's somebody else.
1062
00:46:22,416 --> 00:46:23,683
And if he's reacting
to something,
1063
00:46:23,685 --> 00:46:26,418
a brow needs to go up
while he's turning.
1064
00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:27,419
- What gives
over here yet?
1065
00:46:27,421 --> 00:46:28,621
Are we through here yet?
1066
00:46:28,623 --> 00:46:30,188
Give us us a bit of
the nasty thing,
1067
00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:31,023
then I want him to relax.
1068
00:46:31,025 --> 00:46:31,760
- Yeah.
1069
00:46:31,992 --> 00:46:34,594
- And then when he does
the turn to his left
1070
00:46:34,596 --> 00:46:36,596
lead with the left brow
1071
00:46:36,598 --> 00:46:39,732
going up along
with the turn.
1072
00:46:39,734 --> 00:46:41,668
- If each one of those
is a different person
1073
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:43,736
and you're trying to
think as one character,
1074
00:46:43,738 --> 00:46:47,339
you either get in sync really
quick, or it doesn't work.
1075
00:46:47,341 --> 00:46:48,508
- Oh shit.
1076
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:37,690
- With every new rebirth
1077
00:47:37,692 --> 00:47:40,593
of a film Chucky's look
changes a little bit.
1078
00:47:40,595 --> 00:47:44,429
In the first two films,
Chucky was possessed
1079
00:47:44,431 --> 00:47:46,465
by Charles Lee Ray,
I mean he still is.
1080
00:47:46,467 --> 00:47:48,634
But he was progressively
turning human,
1081
00:47:48,636 --> 00:47:50,435
which is for one
reason or another
1082
00:47:50,437 --> 00:47:52,538
not the case anymore.
1083
00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:55,575
You know, there's a lot
of Chucky purists as I say
1084
00:47:55,577 --> 00:47:57,744
that would say, "Oh, I
hate the way Chucky looks.
1085
00:47:57,746 --> 00:47:59,846
I wish he looked like he
did in the first film."
1086
00:47:59,848 --> 00:48:02,582
But if you follow the story
that wouldn't make sense.
1087
00:48:02,584 --> 00:48:04,550
- I watched the doll,
but not, of course,
1088
00:48:04,552 --> 00:48:05,884
I can't have a scene
with the doll.
1089
00:48:05,886 --> 00:48:10,288
You know, it was great to
be finally able to be there,
1090
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:12,825
and be around and watch.
1091
00:48:12,827 --> 00:48:16,598
- Today, will be the first
time I've ever seen Chucky
1092
00:48:17,998 --> 00:48:20,232
in the plastic
version work.
1093
00:48:31,478 --> 00:48:33,579
- In "Curse of Chucky,"
it's like a refresh
1094
00:48:33,581 --> 00:48:35,648
even though it's continuing
the same storyline,
1095
00:48:35,650 --> 00:48:37,617
you get the whole new
cast of characters,
1096
00:48:37,619 --> 00:48:40,385
primarily Nica, who's
played by Fiona Dourif,
1097
00:48:40,387 --> 00:48:41,621
Brad Dourif's daughter,
1098
00:48:41,623 --> 00:48:42,954
which is really fun
and interesting.
1099
00:48:42,956 --> 00:48:45,658
- And we don't get to work
with Brad all that often.
1100
00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:47,627
All his stuff is
done ahead of time.
1101
00:48:47,629 --> 00:48:49,762
So he's kind of
on the periphery.
1102
00:48:49,764 --> 00:48:52,865
Although, when we did
"Curse of Chucky,"
1103
00:48:52,867 --> 00:48:56,669
he was on set everyday
that Fiona was working.
1104
00:48:56,671 --> 00:48:59,605
And he was there as
like the proud dad.
1105
00:48:59,607 --> 00:49:02,474
- He's been like interjecting
embarrassing stories
1106
00:49:02,476 --> 00:49:04,544
from my childhood.
- Yeah.
1107
00:49:04,546 --> 00:49:05,277
- You know, median's with-
- The press junket
1108
00:49:05,279 --> 00:49:06,244
will be fun.
1109
00:49:07,414 --> 00:49:08,748
- And we kind of
bonded as parents.
1110
00:49:08,750 --> 00:49:12,384
Which is funny, 'cause
then I go to work
1111
00:49:12,386 --> 00:49:13,653
and I listen to his
voice coming out
1112
00:49:13,655 --> 00:49:15,454
of this doll while we're
trying to stab Fiona.
1113
00:49:20,895 --> 00:49:24,564
- I like that Nica is a
person who is in a
wheelchair.
1114
00:49:24,566 --> 00:49:27,399
You don't see that depicted
often in horror movies,
1115
00:49:27,401 --> 00:49:30,402
especially not as
the primary hero.
1116
00:49:30,404 --> 00:49:32,638
- When I was cast
in the first one,
1117
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,439
I was nervous that I wasn't
gonna take it seriously.
1118
00:49:34,441 --> 00:49:36,441
Because on set, you know,
1119
00:49:36,443 --> 00:49:38,511
there's this moving,
walking puppet,
1120
00:49:38,513 --> 00:49:40,580
and they play
my dad's voice.
1121
00:49:40,582 --> 00:49:41,714
And I was like,
"I think you guys
1122
00:49:41,716 --> 00:49:43,583
are just gonna have to
say it, say the words."
1123
00:49:43,585 --> 00:49:45,651
Because he sounds
like my dad.
1124
00:49:45,653 --> 00:49:48,621
- One quick,
decisive motion.
1125
00:49:48,623 --> 00:49:50,523
'Cause he's like fallen
and now he's looking right
1126
00:49:50,525 --> 00:49:51,791
back up at Nica.
1127
00:49:51,793 --> 00:49:54,426
- Don said no, he said
that he wanted it
1128
00:49:54,428 --> 00:49:56,662
to be the recording.
1129
00:49:56,664 --> 00:49:58,631
And it actually
really helped,
1130
00:49:58,633 --> 00:50:01,501
'cause there was something
so unnerving about it.
1131
00:50:01,503 --> 00:50:04,537
- I'm gonna
kill you slow.
1132
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,608
- But having my dad's voice
was helpful, ultimately.
1133
00:50:08,610 --> 00:50:12,512
It was, really creepy.
1134
00:50:12,514 --> 00:50:13,480
- Thank you.
1135
00:50:15,282 --> 00:50:16,549
- Ugh.
1136
00:50:16,551 --> 00:50:18,418
- When we started off
it was 30 years ago, and
1137
00:50:19,754 --> 00:50:24,322
Fiona was, you know, like
a year old, or something.
1138
00:50:24,324 --> 00:50:25,725
- Here's
five-year-old Fiona,
1139
00:50:25,727 --> 00:50:27,660
and there's
12-year-old Fiona.
1140
00:50:27,662 --> 00:50:28,728
And she doesn't
remember any of this.
1141
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:30,462
But there were
certain events
1142
00:50:30,464 --> 00:50:31,664
and screenings where
I would see her.
1143
00:50:31,666 --> 00:50:34,667
And then she grew up, and
she became an actress.
1144
00:50:34,669 --> 00:50:38,538
She came in on "Curse"
and she read for
1145
00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:41,239
the role of the
bitchy older sister.
1146
00:50:41,241 --> 00:50:42,440
And she was really good.
1147
00:50:42,442 --> 00:50:43,910
But I was looking at
her and was like,
1148
00:50:43,912 --> 00:50:46,746
"I actually think she'd be
really good as the lead."
1149
00:50:46,748 --> 00:50:49,615
And it's just like, wow
that just would be
1150
00:50:49,617 --> 00:50:51,851
an odd thing to find the
lead in our backyard.
1151
00:50:51,853 --> 00:50:53,819
You know the daughter of
the guy who plays Chucky.
1152
00:50:53,821 --> 00:50:56,722
- Fans have been asking
for really wanting
1153
00:50:56,724 --> 00:51:00,593
a return to the kind
of straightforward,
1154
00:51:00,595 --> 00:51:03,428
legitimately scary
tone that we had
1155
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:04,564
in the first
couple of movies.
1156
00:51:04,566 --> 00:51:06,499
- Well Don Mancini did
a very clever thing.
1157
00:51:06,501 --> 00:51:09,602
Was when his budget got
slashed so drastically
1158
00:51:09,604 --> 00:51:11,537
when it came to doing
"Curse of Chucky,"
1159
00:51:11,539 --> 00:51:13,506
and "Cult of Chucky."
1160
00:51:13,508 --> 00:51:15,508
Did what a lot of low
budget filmmakers do
1161
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:17,643
is set their movies
in one location.
1162
00:51:17,645 --> 00:51:21,479
You're able to tell a
very claustrophobic story.
1163
00:51:21,481 --> 00:51:24,316
- When you're filming
usually on a limited budget
1164
00:51:24,318 --> 00:51:26,552
in one or two locations,
1165
00:51:26,554 --> 00:51:29,855
it often gives
you bumpers.
1166
00:51:29,857 --> 00:51:33,358
You got to find it in there,
you can't find it out there.
1167
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,627
You can't find
it up there.
1168
00:51:34,629 --> 00:51:36,662
You got to find
it right in here.
1169
00:51:36,664 --> 00:51:39,732
When we did "Insidious" it
was all in one location.
1170
00:51:39,734 --> 00:51:42,802
Being in a house is
especially claustrophobic.
1171
00:51:42,804 --> 00:51:45,771
You're in this space
and what's going on is
1172
00:51:45,773 --> 00:51:48,708
it's walking down the
hallway, it's in the window.
1173
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:51,510
It's not on the streets,
it's in your house.
1174
00:51:51,512 --> 00:51:54,580
But it's all here, it's
all on top of you.
1175
00:51:54,582 --> 00:51:57,883
And when horror is on top
of you, it's really scary.
1176
00:51:57,885 --> 00:52:00,586
- What happened to all horror
it seemed like at first
1177
00:52:00,588 --> 00:52:03,789
it was scary, then
it went so ugly,
1178
00:52:03,791 --> 00:52:05,558
like it got like
torture porn.
1179
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,425
And then it got funny.
1180
00:52:07,427 --> 00:52:08,594
And then it got
to be ridiculous
1181
00:52:08,596 --> 00:52:10,428
that it wasn't
funny anymore.
1182
00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:12,497
- By Scream 3 it
felt like they knew
1183
00:52:12,499 --> 00:52:14,466
they were in a
horror movie.
1184
00:52:14,468 --> 00:52:16,669
It almost started to
fell like a "Scary Movie"
1185
00:52:16,671 --> 00:52:17,503
which was coming out
at the same time.
1186
00:52:19,373 --> 00:52:21,641
- Oh, shit.
1187
00:52:21,643 --> 00:52:23,743
- And then you had to go
back to still being scary.
1188
00:52:23,745 --> 00:52:25,410
- That's one of the
reasons why I think he went
1189
00:52:25,412 --> 00:52:28,313
for the more scare
approach than,
1190
00:52:28,315 --> 00:52:29,615
you know, "Seed,
and "Bride,"
1191
00:52:29,617 --> 00:52:32,685
because he was working
with less money.
1192
00:52:32,687 --> 00:52:35,655
It needed to be scary to
really win people over.
1193
00:52:35,657 --> 00:52:37,923
- I mean we're trying
to bring Chucky back
1194
00:52:37,925 --> 00:52:44,329
to being a very sinister
and very sick, scary entity.
1195
00:52:47,334 --> 00:52:48,701
- This is the first time I've
actually physically been
1196
00:52:48,703 --> 00:52:50,670
on a set with him
and directed him.
1197
00:52:50,672 --> 00:52:53,539
Now, of course, it's more
fun to bring his daughter
1198
00:52:53,541 --> 00:52:56,575
into the series as this
particular movie's star.
1199
00:52:56,577 --> 00:53:00,513
- Don Mancini told me
when he cast you he said,
1200
00:53:00,515 --> 00:53:02,882
"You know, the thing
about Fiona is,
1201
00:53:02,884 --> 00:53:06,619
and the reason why is she
actually looks like somebody
1202
00:53:06,621 --> 00:53:08,888
who this could
really happen to.
1203
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:11,256
- But then we had her come
back in and read for Nica,
1204
00:53:11,258 --> 00:53:13,425
and she was really great.
1205
00:53:13,427 --> 00:53:14,794
- She had to audition
quite a few times.
1206
00:53:14,796 --> 00:53:16,962
How many times did you have
to audition for Chucky?
1207
00:53:16,964 --> 00:53:17,630
- Three times.
1208
00:53:17,632 --> 00:53:18,764
- Three times,
then she had
1209
00:53:18,766 --> 00:53:20,533
to audition three
times for that.
1210
00:53:20,535 --> 00:53:23,502
So she got it because
she earned it.
1211
00:53:23,504 --> 00:53:26,505
- There's a new person
coming in playing the lead.
1212
00:53:26,507 --> 00:53:28,607
How's this dynamic
gonna shift?
1213
00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:29,742
And is she gonna
be a team player?
1214
00:53:29,744 --> 00:53:31,610
She's more than
a team player.
1215
00:53:31,612 --> 00:53:32,912
She's literally
part of the group,
1216
00:53:32,914 --> 00:53:35,614
and you feel like she's been
there since the beginning,
1217
00:53:35,616 --> 00:53:37,683
because she gets it, and
she gets how it works.
1218
00:53:37,685 --> 00:53:40,485
And to help us get
what we need,
1219
00:53:40,487 --> 00:53:42,588
because the puppet's
eyes can really only turn
1220
00:53:42,590 --> 00:53:45,624
this far to the right,
so she'll adjust.
1221
00:53:45,626 --> 00:53:47,993
And she just had it
from the very beginning.
1222
00:53:47,995 --> 00:53:51,630
- Also, for whatever reason
she has this incredible
ability
1223
00:53:51,632 --> 00:53:54,734
to register
trauma and pain.
1224
00:53:54,736 --> 00:53:56,635
- In order for the actors
to truly believe they're
1225
00:53:56,637 --> 00:53:58,537
in danger, whatever
it may be,
1226
00:53:58,539 --> 00:54:02,808
there's a level of
bringing the audience in to
1227
00:54:02,810 --> 00:54:05,578
almost forget that
they're in danger,
1228
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:07,646
or you're in danger
in the next moment.
1229
00:54:07,648 --> 00:54:09,749
- I mean, fear is such
an interesting emotion.
1230
00:54:09,751 --> 00:54:13,652
And the elements that add
up to fear, real fear,
1231
00:54:13,654 --> 00:54:15,755
cross that line obviously,
between being imaginary
1232
00:54:15,757 --> 00:54:17,690
and something really
happening to you.
1233
00:54:17,692 --> 00:54:18,791
- I think it's an
incredible genre.
1234
00:54:18,793 --> 00:54:21,493
He stakes are higher
than in, you know,
1235
00:54:21,495 --> 00:54:23,662
like a typical
drama or comedy.
1236
00:54:23,664 --> 00:54:25,396
The stakes are higher
in a different way.
1237
00:54:25,398 --> 00:54:26,832
The world that you
create is one
1238
00:54:26,834 --> 00:54:29,535
that you have to live in
your mind in different way.
1239
00:54:29,537 --> 00:54:31,469
- Your body doesn't
know you're pretending.
1240
00:54:31,471 --> 00:54:33,506
When you're
frightened in a film,
1241
00:54:33,508 --> 00:54:35,775
or if you put yourself
there, weird things happen.
1242
00:54:35,777 --> 00:54:38,544
I mean, you start sweating,
your hands get cold.
1243
00:54:38,546 --> 00:54:40,311
Often, for me, it's
always crying.
1244
00:54:40,313 --> 00:54:42,480
- But in crying scenes
1245
00:54:42,482 --> 00:54:44,717
there is like no
veil to cover you.
1246
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,318
Even in real life, like,
sometimes those cries
1247
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,554
that you just can't stop,
1248
00:54:48,556 --> 00:54:51,524
when they get
captured on camera,
1249
00:54:51,526 --> 00:54:53,759
it's almost like a glimpse
into your real soul.
1250
00:54:53,761 --> 00:54:55,460
- The real-er you
are the better.
1251
00:54:55,462 --> 00:54:56,729
Bring your emotions,
bringing your timing,
1252
00:54:56,731 --> 00:54:58,631
bring your realness to
it, bring your truth.
1253
00:54:58,633 --> 00:55:01,534
- It almost sounds sadistic
that I need to like,
1254
00:55:01,536 --> 00:55:04,637
I want to see you
register this kind of pain
1255
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,338
that I've seen you do
in real life.
1256
00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:08,707
Because I'm your
friend now,
1257
00:55:08,709 --> 00:55:10,576
and I saw you go through
this horrible experience.
1258
00:55:10,578 --> 00:55:12,545
Let's use that
in the movie.
1259
00:55:12,547 --> 00:55:14,580
- It has sometimes
there's been moments
1260
00:55:14,582 --> 00:55:17,482
that have taken me into
places I almost didn't want
1261
00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:19,652
to go, but I went anyway.
1262
00:55:19,654 --> 00:55:21,720
Because there's that
little part of you going,
1263
00:55:21,722 --> 00:55:24,322
this is important,
this is happening.
1264
00:55:24,324 --> 00:55:26,324
Go, go, go, go, go.
1265
00:55:26,326 --> 00:55:28,627
And I won't
censor myself.
1266
00:55:28,629 --> 00:55:31,764
- Which I think makes a great
actor I think when you do
that
1267
00:55:31,766 --> 00:55:34,600
you're communicating with
the people who are watching.
1268
00:55:34,602 --> 00:55:36,635
- Stuff that you
experience in real life,
1269
00:55:36,637 --> 00:55:38,771
you go, we'll we can use that
as fodder in the next film.
1270
00:55:38,773 --> 00:55:40,739
And I want to take the
character that you play
1271
00:55:40,741 --> 00:55:42,675
in the Chucky franchise
to that place
1272
00:55:42,677 --> 00:55:44,543
that I know that
you're able to go.
1273
00:55:44,545 --> 00:55:46,047
But people haven't seen
you go there before.
1274
00:55:48,583 --> 00:55:51,517
She's a great friend,
1275
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:54,320
and just a really
inspiring collaborator.
1276
00:56:54,815 --> 00:56:58,550
- When you work on a Chucky
film you have the task
1277
00:56:58,552 --> 00:57:00,653
of doing the same thing
over and over again
1278
00:57:00,655 --> 00:57:02,388
until the doll does
what he's supposed
1279
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:03,589
to do perfectly right.
1280
00:57:03,591 --> 00:57:05,724
Simple things
take awhile.
1281
00:57:05,726 --> 00:57:08,260
- If people had more
of an idea of what went
1282
00:57:08,262 --> 00:57:11,630
into animating a movie,
1283
00:57:11,632 --> 00:57:14,432
or for that matter,
animating Chucky.
1284
00:57:14,434 --> 00:57:15,701
I think people would have
1285
00:57:15,703 --> 00:57:19,505
a much bigger reverence
for those kind of movies.
1286
00:57:19,507 --> 00:57:22,574
Because it's this whole
other level of complication.
1287
00:57:22,576 --> 00:57:25,544
- It's not just us doing
the animatronic puppet
1288
00:57:25,546 --> 00:57:27,346
and making it come alive,
and everything works.
1289
00:57:27,348 --> 00:57:28,647
We have to work
with Fiona,
1290
00:57:28,649 --> 00:57:30,849
and Don has to work
with us to find an angle
1291
00:57:30,851 --> 00:57:33,719
that makes the limitations
of the puppeteers,
1292
00:57:33,721 --> 00:57:37,389
or the fact that he can't
do certain things work.
1293
00:57:37,391 --> 00:57:39,858
So we really
have to connect,
1294
00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:43,562
and we have to work as a
team to just get a shot.
1295
00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:56,608
- You have to focus on the
moving, the moving puppet,
1296
00:57:56,610 --> 00:57:59,611
and block out all of
the people around him
1297
00:57:59,613 --> 00:58:02,448
that are having like rods
up his ass and stuff.
1298
00:58:02,450 --> 00:58:03,351
- Oh, dear!
1299
00:58:05,485 --> 00:58:06,518
- You don't get a
chance to be like,
1300
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,586
"Well, I'll do
one this way,
1301
00:58:07,588 --> 00:58:08,721
and then I'll do
one that way."
1302
00:58:08,723 --> 00:58:12,624
Because once Chucky
does the right thing
1303
00:58:12,626 --> 00:58:14,326
and we've already spent
30 minutes on it,
1304
00:58:14,328 --> 00:58:15,561
you know we
gotta move on.
1305
00:58:15,563 --> 00:58:17,463
- When you have a character
that's not a human being
1306
00:58:17,465 --> 00:58:18,464
that you can't
just say, "Oh now,
1307
00:58:18,466 --> 00:58:20,632
let's try it over here."
1308
00:58:20,634 --> 00:58:23,535
When you have to plan that
stuff out that specifically,
1309
00:58:23,537 --> 00:58:25,304
just so you know where
he's gonna be looking,
1310
00:58:25,306 --> 00:58:26,805
what his action
is gonna be,
1311
00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:29,775
'cause it may take several
to get that action done.
1312
00:58:29,777 --> 00:58:32,745
- So I think if it was
any other sort of series,
1313
00:58:32,747 --> 00:58:34,513
I think there would be a
bit more of a disconnect
1314
00:58:34,515 --> 00:58:36,782
between all of the
people involved.
1315
00:58:36,784 --> 00:58:39,251
Because you'd all have your
little piece of the puzzle,
1316
00:58:39,253 --> 00:58:40,686
and it would all plug in.
1317
00:58:40,688 --> 00:58:43,555
Here, we all
have to plug in
1318
00:58:43,557 --> 00:58:45,891
just to get each shot
and make it work.
1319
00:58:45,893 --> 00:58:52,566
- You're the last one
standing, so to speak.
1320
00:58:54,535 --> 00:58:56,635
- Yeah, when you're acting
with Chucky, Chucky's a
figure
1321
00:58:56,637 --> 00:58:59,506
that is walking, and
talking and moving,
1322
00:58:59,508 --> 00:59:02,574
which it makes it easier
than acting to an X.
1323
00:59:02,576 --> 00:59:05,778
- So you never actually
killed Andy Barclay, did
you?
1324
00:59:05,780 --> 00:59:08,414
- I was really excited
and happy when I got
1325
00:59:08,416 --> 00:59:09,915
the call from Don
for "Curse."
1326
00:59:09,917 --> 00:59:13,585
He told me, "I'm trying to
write something in for you.
1327
00:59:13,587 --> 00:59:15,522
I got to get it
approved by the studio.
1328
00:59:15,524 --> 00:59:17,623
I don't want you to
get your hopes up."
1329
00:59:17,625 --> 00:59:20,626
- It was like a test to
see how that would go.
1330
00:59:20,628 --> 00:59:21,528
- And so I read it,
and I loved the scene
1331
00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:23,530
that he had for Andy.
1332
00:59:23,532 --> 00:59:24,663
I thought it was fun.
1333
00:59:24,665 --> 00:59:26,665
I got to get a little
bit of revenge
1334
00:59:26,667 --> 00:59:28,200
and shoot him
with a shotgun.
1335
00:59:29,103 --> 00:59:31,870
- The fan response
was really positive.
1336
00:59:31,872 --> 00:59:33,605
- And they were really
excited to see me in that
scene.
1337
00:59:33,607 --> 00:59:35,574
- And he did really well.
1338
00:59:35,576 --> 00:59:38,112
It's a nice group of
all of us players
1339
00:59:39,246 --> 00:59:40,547
that have worked
together on these.
1340
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:42,714
- You know one of the
reasons I like to keep
1341
00:59:42,716 --> 00:59:44,551
a lot of the same
people around,
1342
00:59:44,553 --> 00:59:48,487
because you know you
work well together.
1343
00:59:48,489 --> 00:59:49,655
- Well, it was like
having a reparatory group.
1344
00:59:49,657 --> 00:59:51,690
You don't even have
to talk barely.
1345
00:59:51,692 --> 00:59:53,792
You're one step ahead 'cause
you know how everybody
thinks,
1346
00:59:53,794 --> 00:59:55,562
and what's their strong
points, their weak points.
1347
00:59:55,564 --> 00:59:57,564
- It because a shorthand.
1348
00:59:57,566 --> 01:00:00,234
You realize when
you're filming movies
1349
01:00:01,368 --> 01:00:06,472
time is your best friend
and your worst enemy.
1350
01:00:06,474 --> 01:00:09,441
Everything's a shot,
I'm fighting the sun,
1351
01:00:09,443 --> 01:00:10,843
I'm fighting the light.
1352
01:00:10,845 --> 01:00:12,512
You're always fighting
something in the movies.
1353
01:00:12,514 --> 01:00:14,646
- And you know you're
gonna be working
1354
01:00:14,648 --> 01:00:17,416
these long hours under
intense conditions.
1355
01:00:17,418 --> 01:00:18,484
- There's a book,
"Good to Great"
1356
01:00:18,486 --> 01:00:20,686
and it says put good
people on the bus with you,
1357
01:00:20,688 --> 01:00:22,788
so no matter what
direction you go in,
1358
01:00:22,790 --> 01:00:25,657
that you know your team
of people on that bus,
1359
01:00:25,659 --> 01:00:27,493
that they're just
down ass people.
1360
01:00:27,495 --> 01:00:29,228
- You're forced to
be in environment
1361
01:00:29,230 --> 01:00:30,629
with the same people.
1362
01:00:30,631 --> 01:00:34,733
And you really have no other
choice but to make these
bonds.
1363
01:00:34,735 --> 01:00:36,668
- There's something
about creating something,
1364
01:00:36,670 --> 01:00:38,538
a piece of art
with somebody,
1365
01:00:38,540 --> 01:00:41,640
that somehow bonds you
in a really cool way.
1366
01:00:41,642 --> 01:00:44,577
- But when the circumstances
are particularly challenging
1367
01:00:44,579 --> 01:00:47,614
then you kind of bond even
more like we did on "Cult."
1368
01:00:47,616 --> 01:00:50,482
You know, we were
shooting in blizzards,
1369
01:00:50,484 --> 01:00:52,684
in 40 degree below
temperatures.
1370
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:59,059
- Here
we go, and action.
1371
01:01:03,565 --> 01:01:06,431
And he goes back to
being dead, very good.
1372
01:01:06,433 --> 01:01:07,733
And cut!
1373
01:01:07,735 --> 01:01:11,436
- We were in Winnipeg
in the winter.
1374
01:01:11,438 --> 01:01:13,472
It was like negative
42 when we arrived,
1375
01:01:13,474 --> 01:01:14,740
and it didn't
even matter.
1376
01:01:14,742 --> 01:01:16,775
- We were literally
joined at the hip
1377
01:01:16,777 --> 01:01:19,579
through the whole
production process.
1378
01:01:19,581 --> 01:01:22,615
Because there isn't a day
where Chucky doesn't work.
1379
01:01:22,617 --> 01:01:23,815
But we know each other
and there's a shorthand,
1380
01:01:23,817 --> 01:01:26,418
and we compliment each
other really well.
1381
01:01:26,420 --> 01:01:29,558
Everything's great. Look!
1382
01:01:32,661 --> 01:01:35,394
- You're basically
climbing mountain together.
1383
01:01:35,396 --> 01:01:37,429
And you have to have
each other's back.
1384
01:01:37,431 --> 01:01:38,997
And you know you
can't do it alone.
1385
01:01:38,999 --> 01:01:42,602
And if you are successful in
scaling the mountain
together,
1386
01:01:42,604 --> 01:01:44,571
you sort of like, oh my
god, we're awesome together.
1387
01:01:44,573 --> 01:01:45,470
- Drill.
1388
01:01:47,775 --> 01:01:50,677
- Don's gotten so confident
in his story telling
1389
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:52,444
he's starting to
experiment now,
1390
01:01:52,446 --> 01:01:53,712
with the visual side
of it a lot more.
1391
01:01:53,714 --> 01:01:56,415
- It's very
deliberately surreal,
1392
01:01:56,417 --> 01:01:57,783
and kind of trippy.
1393
01:01:57,785 --> 01:02:00,653
Because you're dealing
with people who are insane.
1394
01:02:00,655 --> 01:02:02,754
- Four years after
"Curse" continuing
1395
01:02:02,756 --> 01:02:04,856
that storyline with Nica
in a mental institute,
1396
01:02:04,858 --> 01:02:06,725
and you got a fun cast
of characters there
1397
01:02:06,727 --> 01:02:08,460
with the people
inside of it.
1398
01:02:08,462 --> 01:02:11,496
- They have schizophrenia,
or whatever it is.
1399
01:02:11,498 --> 01:02:14,433
You have people on drugs.
1400
01:02:14,435 --> 01:02:16,435
You have people
getting hypnotized.
1401
01:02:16,437 --> 01:02:18,571
You have dream sequences.
1402
01:02:18,573 --> 01:02:20,372
- It plays a lot
with roles.
1403
01:02:20,374 --> 01:02:21,473
So it's like
role playing,
1404
01:02:21,475 --> 01:02:23,643
and who's crazy, and
who's not crazy?
1405
01:02:23,645 --> 01:02:25,744
- Part of what we
wanted to do was like
1406
01:02:25,746 --> 01:02:29,448
a new genre, a new
feel, a new aesthetic.
1407
01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:30,816
- It's all very
monochromatic,
1408
01:02:30,818 --> 01:02:33,385
and then Chucky walks in
and he's all bright stripes,
1409
01:02:33,387 --> 01:02:34,554
and he stands out.
1410
01:02:34,556 --> 01:02:37,489
- So the red hair and
blood really pops.
1411
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:45,831
- The "Child's Play"
franchise is a little
unusual
1412
01:02:45,833 --> 01:02:48,668
in horror franchises,
that I think it's kind of
1413
01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:51,704
a gateway drug to horror
for a lot of children.
1414
01:02:51,706 --> 01:02:54,373
For obvious reasons,
'cause it's a doll.
1415
01:02:54,375 --> 01:02:55,608
And so they key
in to that.
1416
01:02:55,610 --> 01:02:57,610
But so Andy was
their hero,
1417
01:02:57,612 --> 01:02:59,011
and so they've
all grown up.
1418
01:02:59,013 --> 01:03:03,183
And now, they're vaguely
disaffected 20 somethings.
1419
01:03:04,218 --> 01:03:05,917
They're like, "Andy's
got to come back."
1420
01:03:05,919 --> 01:03:09,622
So the challenge was to bring
Andy back into the story,
1421
01:03:09,624 --> 01:03:11,658
but in a way that
would surprise them.
1422
01:03:11,660 --> 01:03:12,993
- And I think it
was really fun,
1423
01:03:14,428 --> 01:03:16,995
as an actor, to
reprise a role,
1424
01:03:16,997 --> 01:03:20,700
that has been a topic in my
life since I was
six-years-old.
1425
01:03:20,702 --> 01:03:23,603
And now, I get to put
some life into what Andy
1426
01:03:23,605 --> 01:03:25,772
would be like had he
survived that childhood.
1427
01:03:25,774 --> 01:03:28,974
- And you would have
aspects of PTSD.
1428
01:03:28,976 --> 01:03:32,512
And how would that manifest
in your life as a
30-something?
1429
01:03:32,514 --> 01:03:33,947
- He has clearly
struggled with
1430
01:03:35,082 --> 01:03:37,717
the effects that Chucky
has had on his life,
1431
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:41,420
and his inability
to move past it
1432
01:03:41,422 --> 01:03:42,722
with others in a
relationship.
1433
01:03:42,724 --> 01:03:44,624
And probably even
within himself.
1434
01:03:44,626 --> 01:03:47,893
So the way we left it
from "Curse of Chucky"
1435
01:03:47,895 --> 01:03:51,830
I think Andy torturing this
doll for the past four years
1436
01:03:51,832 --> 01:03:54,199
is the perfect route that
Andy should have gone.
1437
01:03:58,005 --> 01:04:00,372
- This was the first time
that I had ever done
something
1438
01:04:00,374 --> 01:04:01,641
that was written for me.
1439
01:04:01,643 --> 01:04:06,648
I just had way
more confidence.
1440
01:04:06,715 --> 01:04:08,715
I was like way
more relaxed.
1441
01:04:08,717 --> 01:04:11,483
It just made it
so much more fun.
1442
01:04:11,485 --> 01:04:13,485
- In the "Cult of Chucky"
1443
01:04:13,487 --> 01:04:15,320
there was an actor
that I slit his throat
1444
01:04:15,322 --> 01:04:16,556
in "Curse of Chucky".
1445
01:04:16,558 --> 01:04:17,690
And he was playing
a totally
1446
01:04:17,692 --> 01:04:19,592
different character,
Adam Hurtig.
1447
01:04:19,594 --> 01:04:21,493
- Well, "Curse of
Chucky" was kind of
1448
01:04:21,495 --> 01:04:24,731
a formative film
experience for me.
1449
01:04:24,733 --> 01:04:27,500
I was super intimated to
not only work with Don,
1450
01:04:27,502 --> 01:04:28,768
but to work with
Fiona, as well.
1451
01:04:28,770 --> 01:04:32,739
Not only did I come
in later on during
1452
01:04:32,741 --> 01:04:35,907
the filming process, but I
also have to die on camera.
1453
01:04:35,909 --> 01:04:38,745
And Jennifer Tilly had to
kill me. So no pressure.
1454
01:04:38,747 --> 01:04:41,547
- And when we went to
Toronto, Don goes,
1455
01:04:41,549 --> 01:04:43,549
"Jennifer this actor," 'cause
I didn't met him on the set,
1456
01:04:43,551 --> 01:04:44,617
'cause I didn't have
any scenes with him.
1457
01:04:44,619 --> 01:04:46,351
He goes, "This actor
that's in the Q&A,
1458
01:04:46,353 --> 01:04:47,252
you worked with
him before."
1459
01:04:47,254 --> 01:04:47,856
I go, "No, I didn't."
1460
01:04:48,288 --> 01:04:50,157
- How is it to be forgotten
by Jennifer Tilly?
1461
01:04:52,426 --> 01:04:54,861
Humbling. Whew.
1462
01:04:54,863 --> 01:04:57,530
- He goes, "Yes, in 'Curse of
Chucky' you slit his
throat."
1463
01:04:57,532 --> 01:04:58,600
- Action.
1464
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,200
And fall.
1465
01:05:04,238 --> 01:05:06,371
- Aw.
1466
01:05:06,373 --> 01:05:08,541
- But it was fun
to see her face
1467
01:05:08,543 --> 01:05:10,510
when she actually
did remember me.
1468
01:05:10,512 --> 01:05:12,578
- And I do remember
I slit his throat.
1469
01:05:12,580 --> 01:05:13,813
And I remember he was
such a good sport.
1470
01:05:13,815 --> 01:05:16,448
- Oh, wait.
1471
01:05:16,450 --> 01:05:19,484
Oh! And it was this
nice, kind of like,
1472
01:05:19,486 --> 01:05:22,421
"Yeah, I'm back."
1473
01:05:22,423 --> 01:05:23,623
- Wait a minute,
there's two of them?
1474
01:05:23,625 --> 01:05:26,425
- It was this cool idea
that Don was having me
1475
01:05:26,427 --> 01:05:27,492
come back as a
different character.
1476
01:05:27,494 --> 01:05:28,395
- You're sick.
1477
01:05:29,697 --> 01:05:31,398
And not in the
fun way like me.
1478
01:05:32,634 --> 01:05:34,600
- And I got a chance
to really riff with Don
1479
01:05:34,602 --> 01:05:36,468
to see what it was
like to create
1480
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:38,437
this character with
multiple personas.
1481
01:05:38,439 --> 01:05:39,841
- You're Mark
Zuckerberg, now.
1482
01:05:40,374 --> 01:05:41,074
- Yeah.
1483
01:05:42,476 --> 01:05:43,643
- Okay.
1484
01:05:43,645 --> 01:05:44,877
- I just think that's
so interesting
1485
01:05:44,879 --> 01:05:47,580
that Don just rehires people
to play another character.
1486
01:05:47,582 --> 01:05:48,648
It's like, "Oh you were
the cop in the last one,
1487
01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:50,516
but you can be this
psycho in this one.
1488
01:05:50,518 --> 01:05:51,717
No one's gonna notice."
1489
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:53,719
- Just kind of makes
you wonder who's next.
1490
01:05:53,721 --> 01:05:56,421
- It was fun to come
back for "Cult."
1491
01:05:56,423 --> 01:05:57,389
Don actually asked
me to come back
1492
01:05:57,391 --> 01:05:58,891
for "Curse" at one point.
1493
01:05:58,893 --> 01:06:00,593
Though I think the character
there he was considering
1494
01:06:00,595 --> 01:06:02,595
having me do was
Fiona's mom.
1495
01:06:02,597 --> 01:06:03,763
And I'm glad it
didn't work out,
1496
01:06:03,765 --> 01:06:05,765
because I'm really happy
to have come back as Kyle.
1497
01:06:05,767 --> 01:06:07,700
It's a character
that I am fond of.
1498
01:06:07,702 --> 01:06:09,468
That part of my
life is something
1499
01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:10,469
I'm super
nostalgic about.
1500
01:06:10,471 --> 01:06:12,437
- Andy sent me.
1501
01:06:12,439 --> 01:06:13,539
We're gonna
have some fun.
1502
01:06:13,541 --> 01:06:14,640
- I like "Cult" a lot.
1503
01:06:14,642 --> 01:06:16,475
I think "Cult" is
shot beautifully.
1504
01:06:16,477 --> 01:06:17,677
I'm a fan to the
multiple Chuckys.
1505
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:18,878
- And I know that
that was an idea
1506
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,747
that Don had wanted to do way
back with "Child's Play 3."
1507
01:06:21,749 --> 01:06:24,550
So it's great to see
that finally realized,
1508
01:06:24,552 --> 01:06:25,718
and I think it
came off great.
1509
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,419
- I think they're
all cute.
1510
01:06:27,421 --> 01:06:28,688
Like I love scene
where all three
1511
01:06:28,690 --> 01:06:29,622
of the Chuckys are
talking to each other.
1512
01:06:29,624 --> 01:06:31,389
And you have the
one armed Chucky
1513
01:06:31,391 --> 01:06:33,391
that's sort of a bad ass,
1514
01:06:33,393 --> 01:06:34,560
and you have the
innocent Chucky.
1515
01:06:34,562 --> 01:06:37,229
I just think that he's
really, really cute.
1516
01:06:37,231 --> 01:06:38,698
- I never felt so alive!
1517
01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:39,699
- Yeah, well,
you've been alive
1518
01:06:39,701 --> 01:06:42,969
for like two
minutes.
1519
01:06:42,971 --> 01:06:44,670
- I think it's important
to keep him practical.
1520
01:06:44,672 --> 01:06:45,705
I wish there was
more money for it,
1521
01:06:45,707 --> 01:06:47,439
but I'm glad it's
still practical.
1522
01:06:47,441 --> 01:06:49,474
- Yeah, we can't do
CGI with Chucky,
1523
01:06:49,476 --> 01:06:53,779
because it would take
away that pure element.
1524
01:06:53,781 --> 01:06:56,516
- Fans have made a point
of saying they don't want
1525
01:06:56,518 --> 01:06:58,483
to see CGI with Chucky.
1526
01:06:58,485 --> 01:07:00,720
They really,
really want a doll
1527
01:07:00,722 --> 01:07:02,855
that doesn't move
in perfect form.
1528
01:07:02,857 --> 01:07:06,792
As brilliant as Tony Gardner
is in bringing him to life,
1529
01:07:06,794 --> 01:07:10,730
there is still an
element that it's a doll,
1530
01:07:10,732 --> 01:07:13,833
and the movements are
different than human
movements.
1531
01:07:13,835 --> 01:07:16,569
And I think in there is
what makes it frightening.
1532
01:07:16,571 --> 01:07:20,540
I think if it was
perfect fluid form,
1533
01:07:20,542 --> 01:07:22,474
I don't think it would
be as frightening.
1534
01:07:22,476 --> 01:07:25,443
- When they just make
it digital it loses,
1535
01:07:25,445 --> 01:07:27,680
you know, definitely
loses something.
1536
01:07:27,682 --> 01:07:30,683
- The eye and the brain
could make that distinction
1537
01:07:30,685 --> 01:07:34,520
between computer
generated and rubber.
1538
01:07:34,522 --> 01:07:36,522
And rubber's just, it's
just so much more effective
1539
01:07:36,524 --> 01:07:38,558
most of the time.
1540
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,593
- When we're lucky enough
to have practical effects,
1541
01:07:40,595 --> 01:07:43,863
it's a win-win for
everybody, for the actor.
1542
01:07:43,865 --> 01:07:46,632
- Especially when the actors
are interacting with it.
1543
01:07:46,634 --> 01:07:48,668
- You're living
through something
1544
01:07:48,670 --> 01:07:50,770
which your body
is experiencing.
1545
01:07:50,772 --> 01:07:54,472
And for the viewer,
they're living through
1546
01:07:54,474 --> 01:07:55,575
what you're
living through,
1547
01:07:55,577 --> 01:07:56,642
because you're
living through it,
1548
01:07:56,644 --> 01:07:58,611
and you're presenting
it to them.
1549
01:07:58,613 --> 01:08:00,445
- I think it was such
an incredible experience
1550
01:08:00,447 --> 01:08:02,548
to use practical effects.
1551
01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:05,718
In "Bad Hair," the hair
wraps around my ankle.
1552
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,588
It pulls you and
then when I came in,
1553
01:08:08,590 --> 01:08:09,689
I had to like
cut the hair,
1554
01:08:09,691 --> 01:08:11,624
and all this blood
shoots out.
1555
01:08:11,626 --> 01:08:12,792
- People just
act differently
1556
01:08:12,794 --> 01:08:15,427
when they have blood
gushing everywhere.
1557
01:08:15,429 --> 01:08:16,529
And they can
actually see it,
1558
01:08:16,531 --> 01:08:17,730
and it's actually
something tangible.
1559
01:08:17,732 --> 01:08:19,665
- It heightened
the performance
1560
01:08:19,667 --> 01:08:22,535
because I had this
contraption around me.
1561
01:08:22,537 --> 01:08:24,737
I had this blood that's
about to spew all over.
1562
01:08:24,739 --> 01:08:28,440
- It enhances the whole
reality of the film.
1563
01:08:28,442 --> 01:08:30,576
It's not pretend,
it's real.
1564
01:08:30,578 --> 01:08:32,410
- All of us got pulled
into this world
1565
01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,647
in a very real and
grounded way,
1566
01:08:34,649 --> 01:08:38,216
that we may not have been
able to be pulled into,
1567
01:08:38,218 --> 01:08:39,819
had it all been VFX.
1568
01:08:39,821 --> 01:08:43,623
- Your imagination doesn't
have to work nearly as hard
1569
01:08:43,625 --> 01:08:45,825
with a killer doll than
with a ping pong ball.
1570
01:08:45,827 --> 01:08:47,727
- It's hard when you're just
in front of a green screen
1571
01:08:47,729 --> 01:08:49,695
and it's like, "Now
imagine that you're guts
1572
01:08:49,697 --> 01:08:51,631
are being torn out
of your body."
1573
01:08:51,633 --> 01:08:52,698
Cool, how do I
imagine that?
1574
01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:53,733
But if you see
yourself in it,
1575
01:08:53,735 --> 01:08:55,701
you almost get that
feeling already.
1576
01:08:55,703 --> 01:08:57,637
- When you put all
of that together
1577
01:08:57,639 --> 01:08:59,538
it's like magic,
you get to play.
1578
01:08:59,540 --> 01:09:01,607
- And there's something
so powerful about that,
1579
01:09:01,609 --> 01:09:03,542
because you're not
imagining something,
1580
01:09:03,544 --> 01:09:06,545
you are really experiencing
something together.
1581
01:09:06,547 --> 01:09:10,516
- So I think that
Chucky is physical,
1582
01:09:10,518 --> 01:09:12,417
it really, really
helps the world.
1583
01:09:12,419 --> 01:09:13,753
- Chucky's a doll.
1584
01:09:13,755 --> 01:09:15,554
So that when he walks
around and you see it,
1585
01:09:15,556 --> 01:09:17,455
it looks like
Chucky. You know,
1586
01:09:17,457 --> 01:09:19,558
it looks like
the real thing.
1587
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,761
So you watch the scene
and the scene is real.
1588
01:09:21,763 --> 01:09:23,596
- He feels so real
in those movies,
1589
01:09:23,598 --> 01:09:24,764
because it was
all practical,
1590
01:09:24,766 --> 01:09:26,632
and you actually see
the light bouncing off.
1591
01:09:26,634 --> 01:09:28,701
And it feels, you can
tell the difference
1592
01:09:28,703 --> 01:09:31,671
between the CG
Yoda, and the Yoda
1593
01:09:31,673 --> 01:09:33,539
from "Empire
Strikes Back."
1594
01:09:33,541 --> 01:09:34,874
- You got to buy into it.
1595
01:09:34,876 --> 01:09:37,643
And when it's a practical
thing that looks real,
1596
01:09:37,645 --> 01:09:39,444
that helps you
buy into it.
1597
01:09:39,446 --> 01:09:40,680
- I think at least
having something there
1598
01:09:40,682 --> 01:09:43,783
as sort of a marker,
really, really helps
1599
01:09:43,785 --> 01:09:46,418
the acting process, just
from an actor's standpoint.
1600
01:09:46,420 --> 01:09:47,419
- Yeah.
1601
01:09:47,421 --> 01:09:48,854
- And it saves money.
1602
01:09:48,856 --> 01:09:53,458
- I find that it's
financially, it's a saving
grace.
1603
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:54,660
- When we did
the last two films
1604
01:09:54,662 --> 01:09:56,394
that were direct
to video,
1605
01:09:56,396 --> 01:09:58,496
the budget was
substantially lower.
1606
01:09:58,498 --> 01:10:00,099
The budget for
the whole movie
1607
01:10:00,101 --> 01:10:01,734
was Kevin Yagher's
budget for building
1608
01:10:01,736 --> 01:10:03,536
the puppets for
the first film.
1609
01:10:03,538 --> 01:10:04,837
- They want it
to be more.
1610
01:10:04,839 --> 01:10:06,806
They want it to be cheaper
and have bigger stars,
1611
01:10:06,808 --> 01:10:09,307
and cost more and
music, and everything.
1612
01:10:09,309 --> 01:10:10,543
It's always like that.
1613
01:10:10,545 --> 01:10:12,812
- And there were only
three puppeteers allowed
1614
01:10:12,814 --> 01:10:15,548
to go up from the United
States, including myself.
1615
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:17,550
So I couldn't be behind
the monitor watching,
1616
01:10:17,552 --> 01:10:19,552
I had to focus on
performance, as well.
1617
01:10:19,554 --> 01:10:21,721
But we also lucked
into some local people
1618
01:10:21,723 --> 01:10:23,756
that really rose
to the occasion,
1619
01:10:23,758 --> 01:10:26,491
and were really great,
and did an amazing job.
1620
01:10:26,493 --> 01:10:27,526
It would have been
nice to have had time
1621
01:10:27,528 --> 01:10:30,228
to rehearse prior
to shooting.
1622
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:34,399
But we dove in and
we were rehearsing
1623
01:10:34,401 --> 01:10:35,568
while we were shooting.
1624
01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:37,670
And given the resources
and the time,
1625
01:10:37,672 --> 01:10:40,307
I think everybody did
a really amazing job.
1626
01:11:22,016 --> 01:11:24,750
- And then the challenge
was to bring all
1627
01:11:24,752 --> 01:11:28,621
of these characters from
different aspects of the
franchise,
1628
01:11:28,623 --> 01:11:30,591
and put them on
collision courses,
1629
01:11:31,092 --> 01:11:33,626
and see what happens.
1630
01:11:33,628 --> 01:11:34,794
- That's the thing about
the franchise is,
1631
01:11:34,796 --> 01:11:37,530
it's able to introduce
brand new elements,
1632
01:11:37,532 --> 01:11:40,666
and then weave them
in seamlessly.
1633
01:11:40,668 --> 01:11:42,568
And then they're just a
part of the franchise.
1634
01:11:42,570 --> 01:11:45,871
So by the time you see
in "Cult of Chucky" Nica
1635
01:11:45,873 --> 01:11:49,440
talking to Tiffany, it's
like, oh yeah that makes
sense.
1636
01:11:49,442 --> 01:11:51,577
- What happens
when Andy Barclay
1637
01:11:51,579 --> 01:11:54,547
and Nica Pierce
come together?
1638
01:11:54,549 --> 01:11:57,482
- And Fiona is such a great
actress, first of all.
1639
01:11:57,484 --> 01:11:59,652
She is inspiringly good.
1640
01:11:59,654 --> 01:12:01,654
I really wish that we
got to do more together
1641
01:12:01,656 --> 01:12:03,556
than the one scene
that we had.
1642
01:12:03,558 --> 01:12:05,390
But the one scene
that we had was like
1643
01:12:05,392 --> 01:12:06,725
the highlight
of it for me.
1644
01:12:06,727 --> 01:12:09,595
Because I was really looking
forward to working with her.
1645
01:12:09,597 --> 01:12:11,398
- I just think it's more
1646
01:12:13,134 --> 01:12:16,434
interesting to play
the "bad guy".
1647
01:12:16,436 --> 01:12:17,435
- I'm done.
1648
01:12:17,437 --> 01:12:18,571
- You're done?
1649
01:12:18,573 --> 01:12:19,672
Yeah, that's interesting.
- I'm done.
1650
01:12:19,674 --> 01:12:21,472
I'm not doing
them anymore.
1651
01:12:21,474 --> 01:12:23,609
- I don't want to play
the victim anymore.
1652
01:12:23,611 --> 01:12:25,343
- You guys
should just reverse.
1653
01:12:25,345 --> 01:12:26,178
- We are.
- We are.
1654
01:12:26,180 --> 01:12:28,848
We are.
1655
01:12:33,821 --> 01:12:37,523
- You have Tiffany, who's
inhabiting Jennifer Tilly's
body.
1656
01:12:37,525 --> 01:12:40,326
You have Fiona, which
is really genius,
1657
01:12:40,328 --> 01:12:41,827
inhabiting Chucky's body,
1658
01:12:41,829 --> 01:12:44,429
and you know Chucky is
her dad, Brad Dourif.
1659
01:12:44,431 --> 01:12:45,764
So she's basically
playing Brad.
1660
01:12:45,766 --> 01:12:47,935
- This last movie
I was just Like,
1661
01:12:49,303 --> 01:12:50,569
how did this happen?
1662
01:12:50,571 --> 01:12:52,571
How am I the lead of
this movie?
1663
01:12:52,573 --> 01:12:55,608
- She becomes Chucky,
ah, so brilliant.
1664
01:12:55,610 --> 01:12:58,476
That soul of
Chucky is in her.
1665
01:12:58,478 --> 01:12:59,712
- It would be
almost offensive
1666
01:12:59,714 --> 01:13:01,446
for anybody else
to be possessed
1667
01:13:01,448 --> 01:13:04,617
by Chucky, except
for Fiona.
1668
01:13:04,619 --> 01:13:05,684
Even with something weird,
incestuous and gross
1669
01:13:05,686 --> 01:13:07,418
about that you
could think,
1670
01:13:07,420 --> 01:13:08,453
it doesn't feel that
way at all.
1671
01:13:08,455 --> 01:13:10,122
It feels really organic
1672
01:13:10,124 --> 01:13:11,023
and I like it.
1673
01:13:11,025 --> 01:13:12,124
- Like it
should be that way.
1674
01:13:12,126 --> 01:13:12,760
- Yes.
- Yeah.
1675
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,627
- Somebody else doing
Brad would be sacrilage.
1676
01:13:14,629 --> 01:13:17,763
- It's kind of weird,
because like there's
1677
01:13:17,765 --> 01:13:20,902
a young female version
of a guy you knew.
1678
01:13:21,502 --> 01:13:22,635
Well, that's Fiona.
1679
01:13:22,637 --> 01:13:24,770
- She is such a
brilliant actress.
1680
01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:27,740
And I saw her walking
out there, I saw Brad.
1681
01:13:27,742 --> 01:13:29,440
And it's weird, 'cause
I've never actually acted
1682
01:13:29,442 --> 01:13:31,510
with the real Brad.
1683
01:13:31,512 --> 01:13:33,512
I mean, off screen of course,
doing the voice overs.
1684
01:13:33,514 --> 01:13:35,413
But when she was
walking towards me,
1685
01:13:35,415 --> 01:13:37,616
I mean it was really,
really sexy.
1686
01:13:37,618 --> 01:13:38,684
She really sort of
morphed into Brad.
1687
01:13:38,686 --> 01:13:41,620
- It was just
like a cacophony
1688
01:13:41,622 --> 01:13:43,789
of all of these emotions
going into doing it.
1689
01:13:43,791 --> 01:13:46,661
That I would have a
chance to play this thing
1690
01:13:47,662 --> 01:13:51,764
that my dad is
famous for doing.
1691
01:13:51,766 --> 01:13:53,666
- I felt a little
bit bad for Fiona,
1692
01:13:53,668 --> 01:13:56,434
because when Don was
like, "Quick, quick,"
1693
01:13:56,436 --> 01:13:58,370
I would be like
lunge at her,
1694
01:13:58,372 --> 01:14:00,539
and our teeth
would clatter.
1695
01:14:00,541 --> 01:14:02,574
- I would get her
lipstick all over me.
1696
01:14:02,576 --> 01:14:04,843
And so we couldn't
just go again,
1697
01:14:04,845 --> 01:14:07,713
'cause there was a big makeup
reset each time.
1698
01:14:07,715 --> 01:14:09,581
- Then she'd pull away and
I'd see she had lipstick
1699
01:14:09,583 --> 01:14:11,717
all over her
face.
1700
01:14:11,719 --> 01:14:15,354
And I said to her, "Fiona
when Entertainment Tonight
asks
1701
01:14:15,356 --> 01:14:16,487
if I'm a good kisser,
1702
01:14:16,489 --> 01:14:17,790
will you just please
lie and say yes?"
1703
01:14:17,792 --> 01:14:19,591
- It was really fun
working with Jennifer.
1704
01:14:19,593 --> 01:14:21,329
I had wanted to
my whole life.
1705
01:14:22,663 --> 01:14:24,263
I think it was
intimidating
1706
01:14:24,265 --> 01:14:26,598
'cause she's so funny.
1707
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,467
- I would like to kiss Fiona
in a controlled environment,
1708
01:14:29,469 --> 01:14:30,669
because I want to
redeem myself.
1709
01:14:30,671 --> 01:14:33,439
- Making this
movie was so fun.
1710
01:14:33,441 --> 01:14:35,307
It was like surreal fun.
1711
01:14:35,309 --> 01:14:36,542
I just had a ball.
1712
01:14:36,544 --> 01:14:37,878
You can ask your dad.
1713
01:14:38,946 --> 01:14:41,513
We were all kind of
laughing the whole time.
1714
01:14:41,515 --> 01:14:44,717
- Meanwhile my
dad is on the floor.
1715
01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:47,553
Your dad is always in the
corner on the floor.
1716
01:14:47,555 --> 01:14:48,654
- Those are
her eye lines.
1717
01:14:48,656 --> 01:14:50,789
- Yeah.
1718
01:14:50,791 --> 01:14:52,691
- By now, I may
as well introduce myself
1719
01:14:52,693 --> 01:14:54,994
as Tony's daughter,
and the filmmaker.
1720
01:14:54,996 --> 01:14:57,696
I set out to meet all these
people surrounding the
franchise
1721
01:14:57,698 --> 01:14:59,732
whose names had been a
big part of my childhood,
1722
01:14:59,734 --> 01:15:01,533
but I never had the
chance to meet.
1723
01:15:01,535 --> 01:15:03,669
I haven't officially
met everybody
1724
01:15:03,671 --> 01:15:05,838
who's worked on the
Chucky movies.
1725
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,841
But I feel like I've
known Brad my whole life.
1726
01:15:08,843 --> 01:15:13,479
Like you have, it's so
surreal meeting you now,
1727
01:15:13,481 --> 01:15:15,347
because you've been a
part of my childhood
1728
01:15:15,349 --> 01:15:17,449
since I was
practically born.
1729
01:15:17,451 --> 01:15:18,684
But I'd never met
you 'til now,
1730
01:15:18,686 --> 01:15:20,519
but you've killed
my dad before.
1731
01:15:20,521 --> 01:15:21,687
And the only-
1732
01:15:21,689 --> 01:15:23,756
- And see I
never think of that.
1733
01:15:23,758 --> 01:15:25,657
There's all these weird
layers of all that.
1734
01:15:25,659 --> 01:15:27,659
- Like
everybody who've I've
1735
01:15:27,661 --> 01:15:28,996
been interviewing
for this is like
1736
01:15:30,398 --> 01:15:31,497
in one way or
another been a part
1737
01:15:31,499 --> 01:15:33,465
of how I've grown up.
1738
01:15:33,467 --> 01:15:34,600
- That's interesting.
1739
01:15:34,602 --> 01:15:36,335
- Chucky's
been so at the helm
1740
01:15:36,337 --> 01:15:38,203
of my family I think.
1741
01:15:38,205 --> 01:15:38,839
So it's like kind of-
1742
01:15:39,206 --> 01:15:40,539
- You were how old when
it came into your life?
1743
01:15:40,541 --> 01:15:42,574
- You were a little one.
1744
01:15:42,576 --> 01:15:44,511
You were like
three-years-old,
four-years-old.
1745
01:15:44,513 --> 01:15:46,678
- So you literally
grew up with somebody,
1746
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,447
like you grew up with
them in the family.
1747
01:15:48,449 --> 01:15:50,382
- I view him as a
little brother.
1748
01:15:50,384 --> 01:15:51,550
Because I'm the youngest,
1749
01:15:51,552 --> 01:15:53,520
I always wanted a
little sibling.
1750
01:15:53,522 --> 01:15:54,586
I thought it was
very interesting
1751
01:15:54,588 --> 01:15:57,524
that Fiona and I both
share growing up
1752
01:15:57,526 --> 01:15:59,658
with this doll, but
in different aspects
1753
01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:02,327
of her dad was an actor, and
mine was the head puppeteer.
1754
01:16:02,329 --> 01:16:05,330
- I was maybe
six or five?
1755
01:16:05,332 --> 01:16:06,365
- You were young.
1756
01:16:06,367 --> 01:16:07,001
- I was young.
1757
01:16:08,269 --> 01:16:09,668
- Still a baby.
1758
01:16:09,670 --> 01:16:11,703
- I remember seeing him
in the voiceover booth,
1759
01:16:11,705 --> 01:16:13,540
and he was like,
screaming like he
1760
01:16:13,542 --> 01:16:16,509
was being burned alive.
1761
01:16:16,511 --> 01:16:18,677
Which I guess he was in
the movie.
1762
01:16:18,679 --> 01:16:22,448
And I ran and hid
under a desk?
1763
01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:24,517
- Yeah, you ran, no
ran out of the thing
1764
01:16:24,519 --> 01:16:26,452
into the parking lot.
1765
01:16:26,454 --> 01:16:28,754
- You start screaming
and crying.
1766
01:16:28,756 --> 01:16:32,825
You run back upstairs
into your bedroom,
1767
01:16:32,827 --> 01:16:36,895
and hopped on your bed
crying hysterically.
1768
01:16:36,897 --> 01:16:40,567
Telling everybody that you
weren't gonna go downstairs,
1769
01:16:40,569 --> 01:16:42,301
because the "bad
people" came.
1770
01:16:42,303 --> 01:16:44,436
The bad people were here.
1771
01:16:44,438 --> 01:16:47,406
And I look and
there's Tiffany
1772
01:16:47,408 --> 01:16:50,609
and Chucky sitting
on our coach.
1773
01:16:50,611 --> 01:16:52,377
- And poor little
thing came in
1774
01:16:52,379 --> 01:16:54,179
and heard her
daddy dying.
1775
01:16:54,181 --> 01:16:55,582
- I did.
1776
01:16:55,584 --> 01:16:58,350
- Being burned to
death, and freaked out.
1777
01:17:02,923 --> 01:17:06,492
- I was so mad at him for
leaving the dolls out.
1778
01:17:06,494 --> 01:17:08,694
'Cause you were just
absolutely traumatized.
1779
01:17:08,696 --> 01:17:11,697
- I've been in a theater
and watched my dad
1780
01:17:11,699 --> 01:17:13,765
watched his head explode
in a microwave,
1781
01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:15,568
or whatever, over
and over again.
1782
01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:17,836
And I don't like it.
1783
01:17:17,838 --> 01:17:19,771
And I still don't like
to watch him die.
1784
01:17:19,773 --> 01:17:20,772
- I feel like
that something,
1785
01:17:20,774 --> 01:17:22,609
'cause my dad dies in
one of the movies.
1786
01:17:22,611 --> 01:17:24,611
- Yeah, that's right.
1787
01:17:24,613 --> 01:17:25,677
- So I
feel like we have
1788
01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:27,547
this mutual understanding
of what it's like
1789
01:17:27,549 --> 01:17:28,747
to watch our parents die.
1790
01:17:28,749 --> 01:17:31,618
- To watch our
parents die, yeah.
1791
01:17:31,620 --> 01:17:35,555
- I love the scene where your
dad gets decapitated,
1792
01:17:35,557 --> 01:17:37,723
in "Seed of Chucky,"
that was hilarious.
1793
01:17:37,725 --> 01:17:40,692
But I also loved the
doll's reaction to it.
1794
01:17:40,694 --> 01:17:43,362
You know, they get
spattered by his blood
1795
01:17:43,364 --> 01:17:45,199
and they're all
turned on.
1796
01:17:46,535 --> 01:17:47,666
- I watched that
1797
01:17:47,668 --> 01:17:48,700
when I was eight by
the way.
1798
01:17:48,702 --> 01:17:50,637
- Did that
traumatize you?
1799
01:17:50,639 --> 01:17:52,704
- Yes.
1800
01:17:52,706 --> 01:17:54,673
- But didn't he show you
the head and you know,
1801
01:17:54,675 --> 01:17:56,175
just like, "See
this is like?"
1802
01:17:56,177 --> 01:17:57,442
- No.
1803
01:17:57,444 --> 01:18:00,846
And my only knowledge
of you growing up
1804
01:18:00,848 --> 01:18:03,448
was that you kissed my
dad's decapitated head.
1805
01:18:03,450 --> 01:18:05,784
- I know, isn't that
gross? That's so gross.
1806
01:18:05,786 --> 01:18:08,453
I would have kissed his
regular head, too.
1807
01:18:08,455 --> 01:18:09,688
- Due to these
types of movies filming
1808
01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:12,424
so far away, they basically
formed second families
1809
01:18:12,426 --> 01:18:13,593
while away from
their real ones.
1810
01:18:13,595 --> 01:18:15,628
- Not only do we
play with dolls,
1811
01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:17,896
but we made our living
playing with dolls.
1812
01:18:17,898 --> 01:18:19,731
- So it always felt
there was a piece missing,
1813
01:18:19,733 --> 01:18:22,502
and I had to meet
my second family.
1814
01:18:22,504 --> 01:18:24,336
Like it wasn't complete
until I met everybody.
1815
01:18:24,338 --> 01:18:25,839
- And feel this.
1816
01:18:26,675 --> 01:18:28,340
I mean you've grown up
with this stuff but-
1817
01:18:28,342 --> 01:18:29,474
- Oh wow.
- It's nothing.
1818
01:18:29,476 --> 01:18:32,444
- It's light.
- it's a fake ax.
1819
01:18:32,446 --> 01:18:33,546
- For me it's
kind of cool
1820
01:18:33,548 --> 01:18:34,681
that you're doing
this documentary,
1821
01:18:34,683 --> 01:18:38,750
because for me I have my two
families that get to meet.
1822
01:18:38,752 --> 01:18:40,385
'Cause these are the
people I go to work
1823
01:18:40,387 --> 01:18:41,588
with and have fun with,
1824
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:44,591
and think of it as
extended family.
1825
01:18:44,593 --> 01:18:47,694
And for you guys to all
meet up and actually make
1826
01:18:47,696 --> 01:18:50,195
that family unit, and that
family dynamic larger,
1827
01:18:50,197 --> 01:18:51,430
is kind of cool.
1828
01:18:51,432 --> 01:18:54,399
- You know, all of us
were like a family.
1829
01:18:54,401 --> 01:18:56,569
I would say a mostly
functional family,
1830
01:18:56,571 --> 01:18:58,671
occasionally
dysfunctional as all.
1831
01:18:58,673 --> 01:19:00,506
- You know, you work
really long hours,
1832
01:19:00,508 --> 01:19:02,609
and it feels like camp.
1833
01:19:02,611 --> 01:19:05,444
- Going off to Chucky camp,
as my wife and I call it.
1834
01:19:05,446 --> 01:19:07,513
- You can't do
anything else
1835
01:19:07,515 --> 01:19:09,682
besides work with these
people and make this thing.
1836
01:19:09,684 --> 01:19:12,719
- Given that the films
are in Canada, or Romania,
1837
01:19:12,721 --> 01:19:14,319
and they're never here, I
definitely don't look
forward
1838
01:19:14,321 --> 01:19:16,455
to the time gone.
1839
01:19:16,457 --> 01:19:17,925
- Being away from
1840
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,727
home was horrible.
1841
01:19:20,729 --> 01:19:22,597
My wife and I met
when we were 16,
1842
01:19:23,397 --> 01:19:25,764
on an archeological
dig in the Negev Desert
1843
01:19:25,766 --> 01:19:30,369
between Jordan and Israel,
and we're inseparable.
1844
01:19:30,371 --> 01:19:31,504
And I would be
away for two,
1845
01:19:31,506 --> 01:19:33,606
maybe three weeks
at a time,
1846
01:19:33,608 --> 01:19:36,441
then I would fly home for
a weekend and then go back.
1847
01:19:36,443 --> 01:19:38,678
It was very difficult.
1848
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,680
- You're going somewhere
where it's a different time
zone,
1849
01:19:40,682 --> 01:19:43,415
so you're not gonna be
able to be plugged in
1850
01:19:43,417 --> 01:19:45,450
just on the most
basic routine.
1851
01:19:45,452 --> 01:19:46,519
- I mean there was no
Skyping, or anything else,
1852
01:19:46,521 --> 01:19:48,588
so a lot of phone calls.
1853
01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:50,590
- Not much films
in LA these days,
1854
01:19:50,592 --> 01:19:53,626
so you're always
off somewhere.
1855
01:19:53,628 --> 01:19:55,662
- It's a job that
takes you physically
1856
01:19:55,664 --> 01:19:57,730
to different
places a lot.
1857
01:19:57,732 --> 01:19:59,398
And it's really time
consuming when you're
working.
1858
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:00,600
- I remember they
were off to Romania,
1859
01:20:00,602 --> 01:20:02,602
and then Don told
me afterwards there
1860
01:20:02,604 --> 01:20:05,605
was like terrible
weather and stuff.
1861
01:20:05,607 --> 01:20:07,507
It sounded like a
real adventure.
1862
01:20:07,509 --> 01:20:09,742
And that's the bad thing
about doing a voice
1863
01:20:09,744 --> 01:20:11,778
is you just miss all
that, you know.
1864
01:20:11,780 --> 01:20:13,748
- Sometimes it was
just goddam lonely
1865
01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:17,482
in doing some
of those films.
1866
01:20:17,484 --> 01:20:19,552
I mean, I would be
in this huge room,
1867
01:20:19,554 --> 01:20:20,753
I mean a massive room.
1868
01:20:20,755 --> 01:20:21,486
They could put an
orchestra in there.
1869
01:20:21,488 --> 01:20:23,455
And I had a mic.
1870
01:20:23,457 --> 01:20:24,590
And everybody
was sitting in
1871
01:20:24,592 --> 01:20:26,626
the sound booth
way far away.
1872
01:20:26,628 --> 01:20:28,393
- 'Cause everyone
just thinks,
1873
01:20:28,395 --> 01:20:30,462
oh you spent all
that time together.
1874
01:20:30,464 --> 01:20:32,732
No, I was just in
a box with a mic.
1875
01:20:32,734 --> 01:20:35,768
- And I just did dialogue
by myself all day.
1876
01:20:35,770 --> 01:20:38,705
And thank god when
Jennifer finally came.
1877
01:20:38,707 --> 01:20:40,372
- Well, I suppose it's
sort of changed for me
1878
01:20:40,374 --> 01:20:41,408
since I've had a family.
1879
01:20:42,811 --> 01:20:46,579
You know, that is now part of
the decision making process.
1880
01:20:46,581 --> 01:20:48,548
- The first Chucky,
the kids were somewhere
1881
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:51,751
between five and eight,
the two of them.
1882
01:20:51,753 --> 01:20:54,520
And it was difficult, it
was difficult for everybody.
1883
01:20:54,522 --> 01:20:56,656
'Cause I was a father
that until that point
1884
01:20:56,658 --> 01:20:58,524
had been there
for everything.
1885
01:20:58,526 --> 01:21:01,493
- It doesn't bode well
as far as, you know,
1886
01:21:01,495 --> 01:21:03,629
being able to do
your job well,
1887
01:21:03,631 --> 01:21:05,698
and be a parent well
at the same time.
1888
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,400
One kind of gets put
by the wayside.
1889
01:21:08,402 --> 01:21:09,769
- And you work a
15 or 17 hour day,
1890
01:21:09,771 --> 01:21:12,505
and then you go home and
you crash for a few hours,
1891
01:21:12,507 --> 01:21:13,506
and then you have to come
back and do it again.
1892
01:21:13,508 --> 01:21:14,674
- But it's not a
nine to five.
1893
01:21:14,676 --> 01:21:17,677
It is a whatever time we
would like you to come in,
1894
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:19,512
and whatever time we
would like you to leave.
1895
01:21:19,514 --> 01:21:20,747
- When you're filming a
movie, you're going to war.
1896
01:21:20,749 --> 01:21:22,648
I don't want to make
it sound like that,
1897
01:21:22,650 --> 01:21:23,549
'cause you're not
killing people,
1898
01:21:23,551 --> 01:21:24,817
but you're killing
yourself.
1899
01:21:24,819 --> 01:21:29,156
- It's just not normal in
the way that it normally is.
1900
01:21:29,858 --> 01:21:32,391
I mean people go to
work and they come home,
1901
01:21:32,393 --> 01:21:33,458
and then they're home.
1902
01:21:33,460 --> 01:21:34,627
- So the time
that you put,
1903
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:36,729
when I did "Sextupets"
I worked 22 hour days.
1904
01:21:36,731 --> 01:21:39,766
Literally, out of a
70, 65-day shoot.
1905
01:21:39,768 --> 01:21:44,537
I was there probably 22
hours at least 50 times.
1906
01:21:44,539 --> 01:21:46,405
- I was working from
8:00 in the morning
1907
01:21:46,407 --> 01:21:49,675
'til 11:00 at night,
five days a week.
1908
01:21:49,677 --> 01:21:51,476
And then also working
on the weekends
1909
01:21:51,478 --> 01:21:53,513
when I could have time.
1910
01:21:53,515 --> 01:21:55,748
And I had a newborn
baby at home.
1911
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:58,283
- You know when I
came home it was very late.
1912
01:21:58,285 --> 01:21:59,652
I had to get up early.
1913
01:21:59,654 --> 01:22:00,753
- Or you'd
just be gone for-
1914
01:22:00,755 --> 01:22:05,658
- Or I'd be gone for
weeks, or months.
1915
01:22:05,660 --> 01:22:08,761
- Every single person is
dedicating their lives
1916
01:22:08,763 --> 01:22:12,665
for the next two weeks,
seven weeks, or six months.
1917
01:22:12,667 --> 01:22:14,767
- With "Lord of the Rings"
it was a year and a half.
1918
01:22:14,769 --> 01:22:17,369
"Master and Commander"
was six months.
1919
01:22:17,371 --> 01:22:18,538
- Once you're
committed to the film
1920
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:20,506
you're at their disposal.
1921
01:22:20,508 --> 01:22:22,407
- If they said that
now, I'd be like,
1922
01:22:22,409 --> 01:22:24,577
"Well, can my family
come and visit?
1923
01:22:24,579 --> 01:22:26,378
And how would that work?"
1924
01:22:26,380 --> 01:22:27,446
So it's part of
the process.
1925
01:22:27,448 --> 01:22:29,016
- The second season
of "Phineas"
1926
01:22:30,585 --> 01:22:31,584
I had to really
put my foot down
1927
01:22:31,586 --> 01:22:33,452
about hiring new people,
1928
01:22:33,454 --> 01:22:34,821
and building the
budget of the show,
1929
01:22:34,823 --> 01:22:37,790
because I didn't want to
miss my daughter growing up.
1930
01:22:37,792 --> 01:22:40,392
- But it's the life
that we've chosen,
1931
01:22:40,394 --> 01:22:41,761
you know, it's nomadic.
1932
01:22:41,763 --> 01:22:44,697
- But if I had not had
a kid in the mix,
1933
01:22:44,699 --> 01:22:47,500
I might have continued
to work that hard.
1934
01:22:47,502 --> 01:22:48,568
- You know, that's why
I see why people thank
1935
01:22:48,570 --> 01:22:50,268
their children and
their families
1936
01:22:50,270 --> 01:22:51,436
when they win awards.
1937
01:22:51,438 --> 01:22:53,573
Yeah, I'm able to
provide for guys
1938
01:22:53,575 --> 01:22:55,641
with my passion, and my
art, and my hard work.
1939
01:22:55,643 --> 01:22:57,510
But when you get those
statues its like time
1940
01:22:57,512 --> 01:22:58,744
to sit there and
go, "Thank you.
1941
01:22:58,746 --> 01:23:00,580
Thank you guys for
being understanding.
1942
01:23:00,582 --> 01:23:03,150
'Cause honestly without
you I couldn't do this."
1943
01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:05,651
- It's hard, it's an
interesting question.
1944
01:23:05,653 --> 01:23:06,619
No one's every
asked me that.
1945
01:23:06,621 --> 01:23:10,489
No one's ever cared.
That's so nice.
1946
01:23:10,491 --> 01:23:12,758
- I care 'cause
my dad would have to go.
1947
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,827
- Of course, I know right
when you asked that
question,
1948
01:23:14,829 --> 01:23:16,896
I just thought that's such
an interesting perspective.
1949
01:23:16,898 --> 01:23:20,398
- My father and I are
basically like best friends.
1950
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,736
Yay!
1951
01:23:23,738 --> 01:23:27,439
- Can I have a share for
your camera? Can we share?
1952
01:23:27,441 --> 01:23:28,508
- Take yours.
1953
01:23:30,512 --> 01:23:32,143
- Do it again.
1954
01:23:32,145 --> 01:23:33,347
Hi Daddy.
1955
01:23:34,147 --> 01:23:35,313
- Hey you.
1956
01:23:35,315 --> 01:23:36,448
- I can feel
comfortable talking
1957
01:23:36,450 --> 01:23:37,550
about anything with him.
1958
01:23:37,552 --> 01:23:39,417
He's kind of a rock.
1959
01:23:39,419 --> 01:23:40,922
I admire him a lot.
1960
01:23:43,591 --> 01:23:44,790
- It really sucks
when you're gone
1961
01:23:44,792 --> 01:23:47,427
and it's your kid's birthday
and you can't be there.
1962
01:23:49,831 --> 01:23:51,597
That's the time you want
to be there the most,
1963
01:23:51,599 --> 01:23:53,935
and then you're
stuck, you know,
1964
01:23:55,603 --> 01:23:57,772
in some hotel room
somewhere waiting
1965
01:23:58,773 --> 01:24:02,374
for the alarm to go
off so you can go stick
1966
01:24:02,376 --> 01:24:04,012
a knife in Fiona's leg.
1967
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,881
Those two worlds
don't mix very well.
1968
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:09,851
I don't know
how to put it.
1969
01:24:11,786 --> 01:24:14,620
- As a six,
seven, eight-year-old
1970
01:24:14,622 --> 01:24:17,455
you have your other
half so to speak, leave
1971
01:24:17,457 --> 01:24:19,692
on a plane for
this movie,
1972
01:24:19,694 --> 01:24:21,594
you kind of have like a
little spark taken out of
you.
1973
01:24:21,596 --> 01:24:23,529
- Part of it too is
knowing that you guys
1974
01:24:23,531 --> 01:24:24,597
aren't gonna be
home forever.
1975
01:24:24,599 --> 01:24:26,566
And it's like you
want to get,
1976
01:24:26,568 --> 01:24:28,668
you want to be there
for everything,
1977
01:24:28,670 --> 01:24:32,304
'cause time just
moves so fast.
1978
01:24:32,306 --> 01:24:34,472
- I think he
probably missed out
1979
01:24:34,474 --> 01:24:35,843
on a lot of key
moments that
1980
01:24:36,678 --> 01:24:39,712
we probably both
wish we had.
1981
01:24:39,714 --> 01:24:41,346
- As a parent you feel
like you miss everything.
1982
01:24:41,348 --> 01:24:43,315
I mean, part of the
1983
01:24:43,317 --> 01:24:44,318
fun of being
1984
01:24:45,620 --> 01:24:47,687
a parent is the
family dynamic.
1985
01:24:47,689 --> 01:24:50,556
You know, listening to all
three of you kids laugh,
1986
01:24:50,558 --> 01:24:53,391
to me, is like the
best thing ever.
1987
01:24:54,562 --> 01:24:57,697
So you go away and
you don't have that.
1988
01:24:57,699 --> 01:25:00,600
And then you're
working shitty hours.
1989
01:25:00,602 --> 01:25:02,635
And then it's an eight
hour time difference.
1990
01:25:02,637 --> 01:25:04,570
And you're completely
on your own.
1991
01:25:04,572 --> 01:25:06,639
And it's like you have
to remind yourself
1992
01:25:06,641 --> 01:25:07,607
that you're there
to be able
1993
01:25:07,609 --> 01:25:09,008
to provide for
your family,
1994
01:25:09,010 --> 01:25:11,544
but at the same time it's
taking away from your
family.
1995
01:25:11,546 --> 01:25:12,981
So it just kind
of really sucks.
1996
01:25:14,549 --> 01:25:17,449
- I'm sorry. Gosh.
1997
01:25:17,451 --> 01:25:18,483
- There's some
honesty for you.
1998
01:25:18,485 --> 01:25:20,385
- It's so hard to
make any movie.
1999
01:25:20,387 --> 01:25:21,721
Even the worst
movie ever made
2000
01:25:21,723 --> 01:25:24,724
is still hard to make, and
people go through a lot.
2001
01:25:24,726 --> 01:25:27,593
So I think you want to go
through it with somebody
2002
01:25:27,595 --> 01:25:28,527
that's already been
through it with you.
2003
01:25:28,529 --> 01:25:33,331
- That sort of shared
misery sometimes,
2004
01:25:33,333 --> 01:25:35,367
you know, shared
experiences,
2005
01:25:35,369 --> 01:25:37,204
and the ups and
downs of all of it.
2006
01:25:39,306 --> 01:25:40,573
It's nice having someone
else you can relate to
2007
01:25:40,575 --> 01:25:41,907
that you can
hang out with.
2008
01:25:41,909 --> 01:25:45,410
And it's weird, 'cause you'd
go on set, and it's like,
2009
01:25:45,412 --> 01:25:46,679
"Oh, hey Carry
how's it going?"
2010
01:25:46,681 --> 01:25:49,381
And last time you saw
him was five years ago.
2011
01:25:49,383 --> 01:25:50,816
- And they're
like your sister,
2012
01:25:50,818 --> 01:25:52,818
or your brother by the
end of the shoot.
2013
01:25:52,820 --> 01:25:54,319
And then you walk off and
you don't see each other.
2014
01:25:54,321 --> 01:25:55,721
- And that's it.
2015
01:25:55,723 --> 01:25:56,689
- And that's it.
- And then you run into them
2016
01:25:56,691 --> 01:25:57,757
like five years later,
and you're like,
2017
01:25:57,759 --> 01:26:00,626
"Oh, god, how are you?
What's going on?"
2018
01:26:00,628 --> 01:26:01,727
- When you have sequels
2019
01:26:01,729 --> 01:26:03,629
and you have the
same characters
2020
01:26:03,631 --> 01:26:05,296
and actors that you're
coming back to,
2021
01:26:05,298 --> 01:26:06,599
it's very sweet.
2022
01:26:06,601 --> 01:26:08,734
I mean there's a real
sweetness to it.
2023
01:26:08,736 --> 01:26:10,636
- It's very weird,
because usually after,
2024
01:26:10,638 --> 01:26:11,604
if you haven't
seen somebody
2025
01:26:11,606 --> 01:26:13,606
for like 10 years
or something,
2026
01:26:13,608 --> 01:26:14,707
you have a lot
to catch up on.
2027
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:16,909
But because you're
in that environment
2028
01:26:16,911 --> 01:26:19,578
where you're just working
on the movie it's like,
2029
01:26:19,580 --> 01:26:21,681
you just boom, fall
right back into it.
2030
01:26:21,683 --> 01:26:23,281
- So and so's had a
kid, and whatever,
2031
01:26:23,283 --> 01:26:24,850
and you catch up.
2032
01:26:24,852 --> 01:26:27,620
And there is this cool family
dynamic with those shows.
2033
01:26:27,622 --> 01:26:31,590
- It's a real kind of
special sort of life
2034
01:26:31,592 --> 01:26:33,391
that you get to have,
that goes away.
2035
01:26:33,393 --> 01:26:34,426
- That goes away.
2036
01:26:34,428 --> 01:26:35,863
- It's really sad to
2037
01:26:37,264 --> 01:26:39,598
pack everything up at
the end of the show,
2038
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,600
and leave all these
guys and gals behind.
2039
01:26:41,602 --> 01:26:43,836
- And when we
wrap the show,
2040
01:26:43,838 --> 01:26:46,572
and the puppeteers and
everybody were saying
goodbye,
2041
01:26:46,574 --> 01:26:50,543
Don and Fiona
actually drove out
2042
01:26:50,545 --> 01:26:52,377
and hung out with us
for a couple of hours,
2043
01:26:52,379 --> 01:26:53,411
and said goodbye
to everybody.
2044
01:26:53,413 --> 01:26:55,348
- And he gave a
goodbye speech.
2045
01:26:58,418 --> 01:26:59,417
And just like,
I don't know.
2046
01:26:59,419 --> 01:27:00,452
It sounds corny
to talk about,
2047
01:27:00,454 --> 01:27:01,554
but just everybody
in the room,
2048
01:27:01,556 --> 01:27:02,655
like there were a
few people crying,
2049
01:27:02,657 --> 01:27:04,724
and they gave them
all these gifts.
2050
01:27:04,726 --> 01:27:06,659
- But Don had to get up at
like 5:00 in the morning
2051
01:27:06,661 --> 01:27:08,761
to go do the drone
shot the next day.
2052
01:27:08,763 --> 01:27:11,396
We were all wrapped and
we were gonna leave.
2053
01:27:11,398 --> 01:27:12,698
So he's like,
"I'm coming out."
2054
01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:15,568
And then Fiona's like,
"I'm coming with Don."
2055
01:27:15,570 --> 01:27:18,704
- And then he thanked me,
and then I started crying
2056
01:27:18,706 --> 01:27:20,639
- People don't
realize how seldom
2057
01:27:20,641 --> 01:27:23,542
you take away real
friends from projects.
2058
01:27:23,544 --> 01:27:26,812
- Don Mancini is maybe
my closest friend.
2059
01:27:26,814 --> 01:27:30,816
- Basically, my best friend
now, which is so weird.
2060
01:27:30,818 --> 01:27:32,818
She's also young enough
to be my daughter,
2061
01:27:32,820 --> 01:27:35,855
which makes it weirder
in a way.
2062
01:27:35,857 --> 01:27:37,623
- He liked helped me
through my mother's death.
2063
01:27:37,625 --> 01:27:39,827
He was with me when I
found out she died.
2064
01:27:40,695 --> 01:27:43,596
He like, just feels
like my family.
2065
01:27:43,598 --> 01:27:44,663
- We've been through
a lot together.
2066
01:27:44,665 --> 01:27:46,499
He was at both of our
daughter's bat mitzvahs.
2067
01:27:46,501 --> 01:27:48,501
He was at our
daughter's wedding.
2068
01:27:48,503 --> 01:27:52,605
With me, with the
loss of his parents.
2069
01:27:52,607 --> 01:27:55,674
You know, we've been through
a lot of stuff together.
2070
01:27:55,676 --> 01:27:58,577
- I've always looked up to
him since I was eight years
old.
2071
01:27:58,579 --> 01:28:00,846
And then we didn't talk
for many, many years
2072
01:28:00,848 --> 01:28:03,649
through my high school
times and everything.
2073
01:28:03,651 --> 01:28:05,518
And then I guess
probably late in my 20s
2074
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,553
is when we reconnected.
2075
01:28:07,555 --> 01:28:08,721
- We have a lot
in common.
2076
01:28:08,723 --> 01:28:12,258
We have very similar
taste in music,
2077
01:28:12,260 --> 01:28:13,526
and movies, obviously.
2078
01:28:13,528 --> 01:28:14,693
So we just sort
of reconnected.
2079
01:28:14,695 --> 01:28:17,530
And it's like, oh
he's a person now.
2080
01:28:17,532 --> 01:28:18,731
- And Alex Vincent
is a close friend.
2081
01:28:18,733 --> 01:28:20,866
And Don has always
been a close friend.
2082
01:28:20,868 --> 01:28:22,802
We never lost touch in
the intervening years
2083
01:28:22,804 --> 01:28:26,172
between "Chucky 2" and
"Cult" when I came back.
2084
01:28:27,374 --> 01:28:28,574
- I am her
favorite director.
2085
01:28:28,576 --> 01:28:30,276
- He's my favorite
director ever.
2086
01:28:30,278 --> 01:28:30,978
- Jennifer's awesome.
2087
01:28:33,614 --> 01:28:36,949
She's one of the funniest
people you will ever meet.
2088
01:28:36,951 --> 01:28:40,451
- And I'm a little
intimidated by her,
honestly.
2089
01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:42,822
She does nothing to
make me feel that,
2090
01:28:42,824 --> 01:28:47,626
but she's just this bigger
than life character.
2091
01:28:47,628 --> 01:28:49,728
- David Kirschner, I adore
him, he's a sweetheart.
2092
01:28:49,730 --> 01:28:51,664
On every single film
that I've been on
2093
01:28:51,666 --> 01:28:54,465
he has been like
a very calm,
2094
01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:56,502
sort of avuncular
presence.
2095
01:28:56,504 --> 01:28:57,736
- It would been bizarre
for me to stay close
2096
01:28:57,738 --> 01:28:59,538
with him then, like
24-years-old calling,
2097
01:28:59,540 --> 01:29:01,307
"Hi Alex's mom,
it's Christine,
2098
01:29:01,309 --> 01:29:02,473
can I talk to Alex?"
2099
01:29:02,475 --> 01:29:04,977
That would have
been deviant.
2100
01:29:05,746 --> 01:29:07,378
Creepy, a little
creepy, yeah.
2101
01:29:07,380 --> 01:29:08,547
So that didn't happen.
2102
01:29:08,549 --> 01:29:09,682
- You know, we
only reconnected
2103
01:29:09,684 --> 01:29:11,584
maybe six years ago or
something like that.
2104
01:29:11,586 --> 01:29:13,819
But we talk very often.
2105
01:29:13,821 --> 01:29:15,588
- I really love the person
Alex has grown into being.
2106
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:17,556
- No, I think
it's really cool
2107
01:29:17,558 --> 01:29:19,592
how Brad and Fiona
have a chance
2108
01:29:19,594 --> 01:29:21,627
to actually share
something as intimate
2109
01:29:21,629 --> 01:29:23,662
as this incredible
franchise.
2110
01:29:23,664 --> 01:29:27,365
- Fiona is like really
truly, a family operation
2111
01:29:27,367 --> 01:29:29,367
that she is the
daughter of the man
2112
01:29:29,369 --> 01:29:30,669
who's voiced Chucky
for 30 years.
2113
01:29:30,671 --> 01:29:33,505
- As a father that
has daughters,
2114
01:29:33,507 --> 01:29:36,775
it touches me
that Fiona is,
2115
01:29:36,777 --> 01:29:39,178
she's truly the
"Seed of Chucky."
2116
01:29:41,549 --> 01:29:43,649
- Also, now,
it's more of me
2117
01:29:43,651 --> 01:29:44,817
just being very
proud of her,
2118
01:29:44,819 --> 01:29:48,789
because she's got her
feet, and doesn't need me.
2119
01:29:49,456 --> 01:29:51,523
Basically, she-
2120
01:29:51,525 --> 01:29:52,691
- I still need
you.
2121
01:29:52,693 --> 01:29:55,361
- I mean, she might
call me once in awhile.
2122
01:29:55,363 --> 01:29:57,897
And you know, I
very rarely,
2123
01:29:57,899 --> 01:30:01,267
but every once in awhile
I'll volunteer some things
2124
01:30:01,269 --> 01:30:02,637
based on what I see.
2125
01:30:04,238 --> 01:30:06,073
But for the most part
I love what I see.
2126
01:30:07,508 --> 01:30:09,176
- Oh,
thanks, Dad.
2127
01:30:11,279 --> 01:30:13,245
- I'm really impressed.
2128
01:30:13,247 --> 01:30:14,580
- Thanks, Daddy.
2129
01:30:14,582 --> 01:30:17,650
- And we all do have
a lot of respect
2130
01:30:17,652 --> 01:30:19,785
and admiration
for each other.
2131
01:30:19,787 --> 01:30:21,553
- We all really enjoy
each other's company,
2132
01:30:21,555 --> 01:30:22,588
and we all have fun.
2133
01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:23,722
And it's cool to be able
2134
01:30:23,724 --> 01:30:25,658
to work with people
that you like.
2135
01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:27,559
- It's something
that I'm so proud of
2136
01:30:27,561 --> 01:30:29,494
that that's a part
of my career.
2137
01:30:29,496 --> 01:30:31,563
I don't think my life
would be different.
2138
01:30:31,565 --> 01:30:33,832
It would not have
been as enriched
2139
01:30:33,834 --> 01:30:38,270
if Don Mancini or Tony
Gardner weren't part of it.
2140
01:30:38,272 --> 01:30:39,738
They're dear,
dear friends
2141
01:30:39,740 --> 01:30:42,808
that I have deep
conversations with, and love
that.
2142
01:30:42,810 --> 01:30:46,612
- Chucky has like given me
a career, and an identity.
2143
01:30:46,614 --> 01:30:49,381
- Chucky was the first
thing that I did
2144
01:30:49,383 --> 01:30:51,317
that had a fan base.
2145
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:53,185
And that got me-
2146
01:30:53,187 --> 01:30:53,953
- Noticed.
2147
01:30:53,955 --> 01:30:55,621
- Yeah, it got
me a career.
2148
01:30:55,623 --> 01:30:57,589
- One of the best gifts
to have in life,
2149
01:30:57,591 --> 01:30:59,892
particularly when you get
older, you'll find out,
2150
01:30:59,894 --> 01:31:04,596
is that it's just nice for
people to listen to you.
2151
01:31:04,598 --> 01:31:06,532
I've been doing
this a long time.
2152
01:31:06,534 --> 01:31:07,499
I've been doing this
for 30 years now.
2153
01:31:07,501 --> 01:31:10,669
So that like people
still care about it,
2154
01:31:10,671 --> 01:31:12,604
and want to talk to me
about it, that's awesome.
2155
01:31:12,606 --> 01:31:14,340
- See this is the
reason why going into
2156
01:31:14,342 --> 01:31:15,541
the seventh Chucky film,
2157
01:31:15,543 --> 01:31:17,776
that Chucky has a
huge fan base.
2158
01:31:17,778 --> 01:31:22,548
- The cult fan base of Chucky
is very multi-faceted.
2159
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:26,552
So you've got like the sort
of the typical young guys
2160
01:31:26,554 --> 01:31:28,354
who love horror,
and they love
2161
01:31:28,356 --> 01:31:30,723
to see guts and
gore, and T&A.
2162
01:31:30,725 --> 01:31:34,360
- And it's not like a
lot of horror films
2163
01:31:34,362 --> 01:31:35,694
where every movie
is basically
2164
01:31:35,696 --> 01:31:37,629
the same movie
that came before.
2165
01:31:37,631 --> 01:31:40,499
- And then you've got young
women who are like tend
2166
01:31:40,501 --> 01:31:42,768
to be a little more
sensitive than that.
2167
01:31:42,770 --> 01:31:46,872
And their interests in it
tend to be a little bit
different.
2168
01:31:46,874 --> 01:31:49,541
- Every movie that Don does
there's like a new twist.
2169
01:31:49,543 --> 01:31:50,809
- People really love it.
2170
01:31:50,811 --> 01:31:52,578
People come with their
little doll and all that.
2171
01:31:52,580 --> 01:31:53,579
"Could you sign that?"
2172
01:31:53,581 --> 01:31:54,446
- Their Glen doll?
2173
01:31:54,448 --> 01:31:55,381
- Yeah.
2174
01:31:55,383 --> 01:31:57,282
- Glen?
2175
01:31:57,284 --> 01:31:59,385
- Guess again, Daddy?
2176
01:31:59,387 --> 01:32:00,786
- Horror's always
been counterculture.
2177
01:32:00,788 --> 01:32:02,488
I think that that makes
the people who are fans
2178
01:32:02,490 --> 01:32:04,456
of it band together.
2179
01:32:04,458 --> 01:32:05,657
- I don't think there's
any other genre
2180
01:32:05,659 --> 01:32:07,593
that has a fan
base like horror.
2181
01:32:07,595 --> 01:32:10,562
- Horror fans are,
and I include myself
2182
01:32:10,564 --> 01:32:13,365
in this category,
very passionate.
2183
01:32:13,367 --> 01:32:15,701
But also very obsessed,
2184
01:32:15,703 --> 01:32:17,603
just like very obsessed
with the films.
2185
01:32:17,605 --> 01:32:19,471
- And the fans always
know so much about it.
2186
01:32:19,473 --> 01:32:20,606
They're well-versed,
you know,
2187
01:32:20,608 --> 01:32:22,608
they're complete
fanatics.
2188
01:32:22,610 --> 01:32:27,746
- They are devoted,
loving, kind, non-violent,
2189
01:32:27,748 --> 01:32:31,216
people who
appreciate what you have
created
2190
01:32:31,218 --> 01:32:32,519
and given them.
2191
01:32:32,521 --> 01:32:35,522
- It's celebrated. We get
to celebrate it often.
2192
01:32:35,524 --> 01:32:37,623
You know, I do conventions
with Christine Elise.
2193
01:32:37,625 --> 01:32:39,358
- I think one of the
things I'm most entertained
2194
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,559
about at conventions
is it's
2195
01:32:40,561 --> 01:32:42,861
a gigantic collection
of people.
2196
01:32:42,863 --> 01:32:45,931
- Table after table,
and thousands of people,
2197
01:32:45,933 --> 01:32:49,835
- Who are in society
generally looked at as
outsiders.
2198
01:32:49,837 --> 01:32:51,637
They tend to be wearing
black, black T shirt.
2199
01:32:51,639 --> 01:32:53,672
- And they look
like they should be
2200
01:32:53,674 --> 01:32:56,775
in a death metal
band, and screaming
2201
01:32:56,777 --> 01:33:00,379
and Wielding an ax, and
throwing shit at people.
2202
01:33:00,381 --> 01:33:01,580
- But they're, they
seem to be like
2203
01:33:01,582 --> 01:33:03,615
the bizarrely, the
most wholesome.
2204
01:33:03,617 --> 01:33:05,784
- Usually, they're the most
honestly mild-mannered.
2205
01:33:05,786 --> 01:33:09,855
And it's like they're
actually really normal
people.
2206
01:33:09,857 --> 01:33:13,692
Not all horror fans shop at
Hot Topic. No disrespect.
2207
01:33:13,694 --> 01:33:16,563
Not all of us do that.
Only sometimes.
2208
01:33:16,565 --> 01:33:18,831
- Jennifer Tilly
and I did Comicon.
2209
01:33:18,833 --> 01:33:22,334
And there were people coming
up for autographs
afterwards,
2210
01:33:22,336 --> 01:33:23,902
pushing babies
in strollers.
2211
01:33:23,904 --> 01:33:26,605
And they had like Chucky or
Tiffany tattooed on them.
2212
01:33:26,607 --> 01:33:29,542
It's like, wow these
people are really into it.
2213
01:33:29,544 --> 01:33:31,443
- All the boys
have tattoos.
2214
01:33:31,445 --> 01:33:33,378
All the girls are big
girls, they're tough,
2215
01:33:33,380 --> 01:33:34,847
they're kick ass,
those girls.
2216
01:33:34,849 --> 01:33:37,249
And they always have a
great sense of humor.
2217
01:33:37,251 --> 01:33:38,585
I love the horror fans.
2218
01:33:38,587 --> 01:33:41,554
- I get so many letters,
and like drawings.
2219
01:33:41,556 --> 01:33:43,755
- Comicon is
great for us.
2220
01:33:43,757 --> 01:33:47,726
For the niche parts
of entertainment
2221
01:33:47,728 --> 01:33:50,395
it's this great place where
we get to be sort of thought
of.
2222
01:33:50,397 --> 01:33:51,730
- But they were
so polite,
2223
01:33:51,732 --> 01:33:54,233
and had such a genuine
appreciation for it,
2224
01:33:54,235 --> 01:33:55,701
and such a love for it.
2225
01:33:55,703 --> 01:33:58,804
- Horror's so cool
because it is a genre,
2226
01:33:58,806 --> 01:34:01,608
where the below the line
people get appreciation.
2227
01:34:01,610 --> 01:34:03,475
- I love every single
person I've met
2228
01:34:03,477 --> 01:34:04,776
at a convention,
for real.
2229
01:34:04,778 --> 01:34:10,382
They are just excited,
joyous, and giving.
2230
01:34:10,384 --> 01:34:11,584
- I think it's great
to just come here,
2231
01:34:11,586 --> 01:34:13,485
and be surrounded by
people who love horror.
2232
01:34:13,487 --> 01:34:14,786
Like at any horror
convention,
2233
01:34:14,788 --> 01:34:17,189
it's just really cool
to find more and more
2234
01:34:17,191 --> 01:34:18,357
of these out here.
2235
01:34:18,359 --> 01:34:19,691
And to see more
and more people
2236
01:34:19,693 --> 01:34:21,727
from all different regions
of the United States,
2237
01:34:21,729 --> 01:34:24,564
and all over the world coming
to celebrate this genre.
2238
01:34:24,566 --> 01:34:27,299
- It's wonderful to see that
kind of fan base support
2239
01:34:27,301 --> 01:34:28,400
for the movies,
in person.
2240
01:34:28,402 --> 01:34:29,536
- I love being here, man.
2241
01:34:29,538 --> 01:34:31,370
I love being
surrounded by this.
2242
01:34:31,372 --> 01:34:32,838
It's my favorite
place to be.
2243
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,508
- They're always great
about meeting their fans.
2244
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:37,309
Don Mancini
always makes time
2245
01:34:37,311 --> 01:34:38,645
to sign every autograph.
2246
01:34:38,647 --> 01:34:40,513
- And so to meet
them in person,
2247
01:34:40,515 --> 01:34:41,747
and just get to
talk to them,
2248
01:34:41,749 --> 01:34:43,650
even if it's just
for a few minutes
2249
01:34:43,652 --> 01:34:46,385
about those experiences,
I really appreciate that.
2250
01:34:46,387 --> 01:34:47,654
- Story telling is
about communication,
2251
01:34:47,656 --> 01:34:49,721
and it relies on
both parties,
2252
01:34:49,723 --> 01:34:52,592
the story teller and
the person who's hearing
2253
01:34:52,594 --> 01:34:54,293
the story and
responding to it.
2254
01:34:59,266 --> 01:35:00,732
- Any movie is a
dialogue in a way.
2255
01:35:00,734 --> 01:35:03,670
And I think that's
increasing true
2256
01:35:03,672 --> 01:35:05,437
in the world of
social media.
2257
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:06,738
- Internet has
come along,
2258
01:35:06,740 --> 01:35:10,709
and everybody can share
photos and cross analyze,
2259
01:35:10,711 --> 01:35:12,778
what he looked like in
this film versus that film?
2260
01:35:12,780 --> 01:35:14,514
And a lot people have
really good opinions,
2261
01:35:14,516 --> 01:35:15,781
and really smart ones.
2262
01:35:15,783 --> 01:35:18,618
And I think the fan
base is something
2263
01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:21,588
that's become rather
amazing in a way.
2264
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:24,524
- You get like
feedback from fans
2265
01:35:24,526 --> 01:35:26,693
and people who watch
movies, way more quickly,
2266
01:35:26,695 --> 01:35:29,394
and more consistently
than you ever did.
2267
01:35:29,396 --> 01:35:30,597
It's just immediate.
2268
01:35:30,599 --> 01:35:33,533
- My experience with
fan conventions
2269
01:35:33,535 --> 01:35:35,367
is diametrically opposed
to my experience
2270
01:35:35,369 --> 01:35:37,704
with fans online.
2271
01:35:37,706 --> 01:35:40,839
Fans online tend to be, I
mean, half of them are
lovely,
2272
01:35:40,841 --> 01:35:44,577
and effusive and great and
curious, and wonderful.
2273
01:35:44,579 --> 01:35:47,513
- And if they're unhappy
you hear it right away.
2274
01:35:47,515 --> 01:35:49,549
- And another half
are incredibly mean,
2275
01:35:49,551 --> 01:35:52,384
and vindictive and
scary even sometimes.
2276
01:35:52,386 --> 01:35:53,720
Nobody ever is
in real life.
2277
01:35:53,722 --> 01:35:56,255
- We're such a large
group of people
2278
01:35:56,257 --> 01:35:58,457
to be invested in a story
2279
01:35:58,459 --> 01:36:00,526
that has been told
for over 30 years.
2280
01:36:00,528 --> 01:36:02,427
To be a part of that
is truly special.
2281
01:36:02,429 --> 01:36:03,663
- To be a part
of something
2282
01:36:03,665 --> 01:36:07,634
that so many people
love is really surreal.
2283
01:36:07,636 --> 01:36:08,735
- Every new Chucky
installment they're like,
2284
01:36:08,737 --> 01:36:10,703
"Oh my god, what's
gonna happen?"
2285
01:36:10,705 --> 01:36:13,472
Because they really see
Chucky as a real person.
2286
01:36:13,474 --> 01:36:15,374
- Whatever Chucky
represents to people
2287
01:36:15,376 --> 01:36:18,678
is real, and legitimate.
2288
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,381
And there's like passion
for the character.
2289
01:36:22,383 --> 01:36:23,716
It just feels like
this weird gift
2290
01:36:23,718 --> 01:36:25,585
that I get to be
involved in it.
2291
01:36:25,587 --> 01:36:27,720
- It's an important
chapter of my life
2292
01:36:27,722 --> 01:36:31,557
that thankfully, hasn't
ended in 30 years.
2293
01:36:31,559 --> 01:36:33,425
I don't have any other
project like that.
2294
01:36:33,427 --> 01:36:35,427
I don't think
anybody else does.
2295
01:36:35,429 --> 01:36:36,897
- It's a blessing,
definitely.
2296
01:36:37,732 --> 01:36:39,431
As my grandmother
used to always say
2297
01:36:39,433 --> 01:36:41,701
about Chucky, "He's
such a bitch."
2298
01:36:41,703 --> 01:36:44,604
But he's a bitch hat
keeps on giving.
2299
01:36:44,606 --> 01:36:45,638
- Do you
think of Chucky
2300
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,439
as part of your
own family?
2301
01:36:47,441 --> 01:36:48,708
- Of course,
I do think of Chucky
2302
01:36:48,710 --> 01:36:52,578
as family he's
mine, he's mine.
2303
01:36:52,580 --> 01:36:54,413
Although Tony will
say, "He's mine."
2304
01:36:54,415 --> 01:36:56,448
And David Kirschner
will say, "He's mine."
2305
01:36:56,450 --> 01:36:58,551
'Cause success has
many fathers.
2306
01:36:58,553 --> 01:37:02,354
- We joke about that,
that he's our third child.
2307
01:37:02,356 --> 01:37:04,856
- I'm proud to have
been his papa.
2308
01:37:04,858 --> 01:37:08,493
- I think of Chucky as my
little demented brother.
2309
01:37:08,495 --> 01:37:10,630
It's true when I
see him sometimes,
2310
01:37:10,632 --> 01:37:12,699
you know, I feel
close to him.
2311
01:37:12,701 --> 01:37:14,534
- No, I don't feel like
he's a little brother.
2312
01:37:14,536 --> 01:37:16,636
I feel like
maybe he's like
2313
01:37:16,638 --> 01:37:19,106
a dog that really lived
a really long time.
2314
01:37:21,743 --> 01:37:23,643
That you've had your
whole life, you love him,
2315
01:37:23,645 --> 01:37:27,479
but he shits on your
floor.
2316
01:37:27,481 --> 01:37:28,748
- I don't think of
Chucky as a kid.
2317
01:37:28,750 --> 01:37:32,518
I think of Chucky as
an employer sometimes
2318
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,822
in a weird way.
2319
01:37:34,622 --> 01:37:36,622
And then he's a
family member.
2320
01:37:36,624 --> 01:37:39,026
- Our little boy, is what
we always say in this house.
2321
01:37:41,763 --> 01:37:43,696
is what you were
trying to say, right?
2322
01:37:43,698 --> 01:37:45,765
- There you go. You
ratted me out.
2323
01:37:45,767 --> 01:37:48,803
- and we
got it on video.
2324
01:37:51,606 --> 01:37:53,874
- Tiffany's my
favorite.
2325
01:37:57,010 --> 01:38:00,412
I think being part of
the Chucky family,
2326
01:38:00,414 --> 01:38:02,548
there's just somebody
who truly gets you,
2327
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:04,550
because not every
other daughter,
2328
01:38:04,552 --> 01:38:07,319
or father or person
has grown up
2329
01:38:07,321 --> 01:38:08,554
in the same environment.
2330
01:38:08,556 --> 01:38:10,489
I feel so connected
to everybody.
2331
01:38:10,491 --> 01:38:11,724
I like these
relationships,
2332
01:38:11,726 --> 01:38:14,694
and I hope they grow
more over the years.
2333
01:38:14,696 --> 01:38:17,898
- Now, we really will
be the perfect family.
2334
01:38:22,737 --> 01:38:25,404
- I think these relationships
have definitely more
2335
01:38:25,406 --> 01:38:27,673
than grown over the
past few years.
2336
01:38:27,675 --> 01:38:30,475
- It's funny 'cause I don't
think any of us expected
2337
01:38:30,477 --> 01:38:34,680
it to continue on,
let alone gather
2338
01:38:34,682 --> 01:38:36,616
a larger family
in the process
2339
01:38:36,618 --> 01:38:38,417
as it keeps
moving forward.
2340
01:38:38,419 --> 01:38:40,820
And now we're
headed to Canada.
2341
01:38:40,822 --> 01:38:44,657
We're going to Toronto to
shoot a TV series called
"Chucky."
2342
01:38:44,659 --> 01:38:47,627
- I am coming to you from the
set of the "Chucky" series.
2343
01:38:47,629 --> 01:38:49,829
Which we are filming
here in Toronto, Ontario.
2344
01:38:49,831 --> 01:38:52,698
Who would have thought, 25
years ago when he talked me
2345
01:38:52,700 --> 01:38:55,200
into playing this part,
that I would still be
2346
01:38:55,202 --> 01:38:56,669
at it many movies later,
2347
01:38:56,671 --> 01:38:58,937
and now, a
television series?
2348
01:38:58,939 --> 01:39:03,509
- Eight episodes, eight hour
long episodes of killer
doll.
2349
01:39:03,511 --> 01:39:05,511
The foundation
is the same.
2350
01:39:05,513 --> 01:39:08,648
Don Mancini is the show
runner, and wrote the pilot,
2351
01:39:08,650 --> 01:39:10,616
and is directing
the pilot.
2352
01:39:10,618 --> 01:39:12,618
David Kirschner
is producing.
2353
01:39:12,620 --> 01:39:14,687
All the lead puppeteers
are back on it.
2354
01:39:14,689 --> 01:39:16,288
- And of course,
darling old Chucky,
2355
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:18,223
the star of our show.
2356
01:39:18,225 --> 01:39:19,592
We must not forget him,
2357
01:39:19,594 --> 01:39:21,493
because if we did he would
get very, very cranky.
2358
01:39:23,665 --> 01:39:26,532
I have to be quiet now,
'cause we're filming. Bye.
2359
01:39:26,534 --> 01:39:27,667
- It's been an interesting
journey really.
2360
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:30,536
The world has gotten
a lot smaller.
2361
01:39:30,538 --> 01:39:32,538
- And the family's
gotten larger.
2362
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:34,841
- It's a little
dysfunctional and deadly,
2363
01:39:34,843 --> 01:39:38,477
but everybody gets along
and has a lot of fun.
2364
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,646
- And we're just gonna
keep on killing people.
2365
01:39:40,648 --> 01:39:42,715
The family that
slays together
2366
01:39:42,717 --> 01:39:44,817
stays together.
- Stays together.
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