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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:07,700 - American monster movies 2 00:01:07,702 --> 00:01:09,735 are popular almost everywhere in the world. 3 00:01:09,737 --> 00:01:11,704 Tonight your guide for this rare odyssey 4 00:01:11,706 --> 00:01:14,574 is the rising star of horror, a real little terror. 5 00:01:14,576 --> 00:01:19,177 Ladies and gentlemen, here's Chucky! 6 00:01:19,179 --> 00:01:21,279 - It's showtime. 7 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:23,315 Where the hell's Andy? 8 00:01:23,317 --> 00:01:24,550 Did you miss me, Andy? 9 00:01:24,552 --> 00:01:26,886 Andy, snap out of it! 10 00:01:26,888 --> 00:01:29,555 You act like you've never seen a dead body before! 11 00:01:29,557 --> 00:01:31,423 - I never saw a doll like you before. 12 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:32,660 - Amazing, isn't it? 13 00:01:34,696 --> 00:01:38,263 I don't have a problem with killing. 14 00:01:42,537 --> 00:01:43,703 - Chucky did it. 15 00:01:43,705 --> 00:01:44,704 - What are you talking about?! 16 00:01:44,706 --> 00:01:46,404 - Just stay away from that doll! 17 00:01:46,406 --> 00:01:47,607 - it's just a doll. 18 00:01:47,609 --> 00:01:49,307 - Prove that it's just a doll. 19 00:01:49,309 --> 00:01:51,242 - Say something, dammit! 20 00:01:51,244 --> 00:01:52,410 - How's it hanging, Phil? 21 00:01:52,412 --> 00:01:54,015 Presto, you're dead. 22 00:01:55,349 --> 00:01:57,349 - You're dead. 23 00:01:57,351 --> 00:02:00,385 - No, you are. 24 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:01,721 - No, you're dead, we killed you! 25 00:02:01,723 --> 00:02:04,690 - You just can't keep a good guy down. 26 00:02:04,692 --> 00:02:08,062 I am Chucky, the killer doll! 27 00:02:08,362 --> 00:02:09,327 And I dig it! 28 00:03:43,591 --> 00:03:44,690 - So can you take me back to the beginning 29 00:03:44,692 --> 00:03:46,592 of when all of this started? 30 00:03:46,594 --> 00:03:48,828 - You know, I was a horror fan all my life. 31 00:03:48,830 --> 00:03:53,499 I wrote the first script when I was a student at UCLA. 32 00:03:53,501 --> 00:03:56,334 And I was really inspired by the horror movies 33 00:03:56,336 --> 00:03:57,536 that I grew up on as a kid. 34 00:03:57,538 --> 00:03:58,938 I especially loved Brian De Palma movies, 35 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:01,640 like "Carrie" and "Dressed to Kill," and "The Fury." 36 00:04:01,642 --> 00:04:03,776 So I gravitated to writing 'cause it was cheaper. 37 00:04:03,778 --> 00:04:05,544 You know, so it's just the cost of paper, 38 00:04:05,546 --> 00:04:06,912 and in those days a typewriter. 39 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:09,782 This was like before computers. Can you believe it? 40 00:04:09,784 --> 00:04:12,484 - For a while there in the early '80s, every weekend, 41 00:04:12,486 --> 00:04:14,486 a new slasher movie was opening up. 42 00:04:14,488 --> 00:04:15,821 It was just such a flood of them. 43 00:04:15,823 --> 00:04:17,923 - When the first "Nightmare on Elm Street" came out, 44 00:04:17,925 --> 00:04:23,497 and it was in 1984, it was very unusual to have a hero, 45 00:04:23,631 --> 00:04:25,564 be a villain like Freddy Krueger, 46 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:28,399 who was disfigured and evil. 47 00:04:28,401 --> 00:04:30,836 It was a new kind of horror figure. 48 00:04:30,838 --> 00:04:34,540 It was a relatable horror figure. It wasn't a monster. 49 00:04:34,542 --> 00:04:36,542 It wasn't somebody grunting, and groaning, 50 00:04:36,544 --> 00:04:38,376 and coming and breaking in. 51 00:04:38,378 --> 00:04:41,647 He was a guy, and he had an attitude. 52 00:04:41,649 --> 00:04:44,550 He liked you, you know, he sort of made you feel special. 53 00:04:44,552 --> 00:04:46,451 And there was something about those elements 54 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:47,953 that draws the audience in. 55 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:49,688 - Oh, you know, that was back in the time when 56 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:51,456 the killers in movies had personalities. 57 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:52,492 You know what I mean? 58 00:04:52,527 --> 00:04:55,426 They became like the hero, 59 00:04:55,428 --> 00:04:56,494 but there was like a shape shifter, 60 00:04:56,496 --> 00:04:58,463 'cause it was also the comic relief. 61 00:04:58,465 --> 00:04:59,698 - The sense of humor is huge. 62 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:03,536 The fact that he had humor to his malice. 63 00:05:03,538 --> 00:05:04,703 - That's back when Freddy Krueger was like, 64 00:05:04,705 --> 00:05:06,739 "Welcome to prime time, bitch!" 65 00:05:06,741 --> 00:05:10,576 And so those kind of characters found themselves 66 00:05:10,578 --> 00:05:12,678 as really the staple of the movie. 67 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,548 It wasn't about the teen, the teenage kids, 68 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:17,550 and it wasn't about the heroine. 69 00:05:17,552 --> 00:05:19,685 Those movies were about the villain. 70 00:05:19,687 --> 00:05:24,723 - It paved the way for other anti-heroes who you hated 71 00:05:24,725 --> 00:05:27,458 and were afraid of, but you also were attracted to them. 72 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:30,830 And it did, it paved the way for a Chucky. 73 00:05:30,832 --> 00:05:33,398 - Well, what happened was my wife and I, Liz had been 74 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,534 in England, in London. 75 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:36,535 And I bought a book called 76 00:05:36,537 --> 00:05:38,637 "The Victorian Dollhouse Murders." 77 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:41,674 Because the idea of dolls coming to life scared me 78 00:05:41,676 --> 00:05:43,609 to death when I was a little kid, Talking Tina 79 00:05:43,611 --> 00:05:45,511 from "Twilight Zone." 80 00:05:45,513 --> 00:05:47,713 And when I came back, I gave her the book and I said, 81 00:05:47,715 --> 00:05:51,617 "I would love to do something with dolls." 82 00:05:51,619 --> 00:05:53,719 And she said, "Well, there actually was this screenplay 83 00:05:53,721 --> 00:05:55,754 that came out about six months ago called "Blood Buddy." 84 00:05:55,756 --> 00:05:58,489 But it had been passed on by the studios. 85 00:05:58,491 --> 00:06:00,294 I said, "I'm curious to read it." 86 00:06:01,596 --> 00:06:03,494 I had done "An American Tail." 87 00:06:03,496 --> 00:06:06,332 For my next project. I wanted to do something scary. 88 00:06:06,334 --> 00:06:07,566 And she gave it to me, 89 00:06:07,568 --> 00:06:10,368 and I really liked the overall idea of it. 90 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:11,973 A great idea, Don's concept 91 00:06:12,073 --> 00:06:14,472 of a doll that is programmed 92 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:16,675 by Madison Avenue to come to life. 93 00:06:16,677 --> 00:06:18,409 - On Madison Avenue, they refer to children 94 00:06:18,411 --> 00:06:20,579 as consumer trainees. 95 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:22,848 And so like training children to want things 96 00:06:22,850 --> 00:06:25,751 that they don't need and become compulsive buyers. 97 00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:28,554 And then in the midst of the '80s 98 00:06:28,556 --> 00:06:30,656 and Cabbage Patch Dolls had just come out. 99 00:06:30,658 --> 00:06:32,791 They were this huge craze. 100 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:37,495 And I realized that the whole living doll trope 101 00:06:37,497 --> 00:06:40,232 in the horror genre, I had seen Talking Tina 102 00:06:40,234 --> 00:06:41,567 on the "Twilight Zone." 103 00:06:41,569 --> 00:06:44,469 I had seen "Magic" with Anthony Hopkins. 104 00:06:44,471 --> 00:06:46,839 But I realized that no one had ever done 105 00:06:46,841 --> 00:06:50,643 the living doll thing as a full fledged feature 106 00:06:50,645 --> 00:06:53,679 where you treat the doll as a character who 107 00:06:53,681 --> 00:06:56,649 can actually emote and you can give him pages of dialogue. 108 00:06:56,651 --> 00:06:58,651 And "Gremlins" had just come out. 109 00:06:58,653 --> 00:07:01,587 So it's like with "Gremlins," I realized 110 00:07:01,589 --> 00:07:03,722 that animatronic effects had gotten to a point 111 00:07:03,724 --> 00:07:06,725 where they were sophisticated enough 112 00:07:06,727 --> 00:07:09,528 that the puppets could actually emote. 113 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:11,630 So sort of all these ideas came together, 114 00:07:11,632 --> 00:07:13,565 and out came the first Chucky script. 115 00:07:19,573 --> 00:07:22,741 - The veteran slashers like Freddy, and Jason, 116 00:07:22,743 --> 00:07:25,476 and Michael Myers were getting a little tired by then. 117 00:07:25,478 --> 00:07:27,546 - Don came to my office and we met, 118 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,648 and I got the rights to the script. 119 00:07:29,650 --> 00:07:31,784 - He had at the time, a deal at Disney. 120 00:07:31,786 --> 00:07:33,786 And so he had an office on the Disney lot. 121 00:07:33,788 --> 00:07:36,655 And I'm like 20 or 21, and so it was a really big deal 122 00:07:36,657 --> 00:07:38,691 to have someone who was established 123 00:07:38,693 --> 00:07:41,794 and had done such big work, take an interest 124 00:07:41,796 --> 00:07:45,631 in what I had written and support it and get it going. 125 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:48,734 - The slasher genre was ready for a burst of new blood, 126 00:07:48,736 --> 00:07:53,405 and Chucky supplied that in spades in 1988, 127 00:07:53,407 --> 00:07:54,807 with the release of "Child's Play." 128 00:07:54,809 --> 00:07:58,610 - And did some work on my own on some ideas for it, 129 00:07:58,612 --> 00:08:01,413 because there wasn't, there wasn't 130 00:08:01,415 --> 00:08:02,815 the "Frankenstein" moment in it. 131 00:08:02,817 --> 00:08:05,483 There wasn't the moment that brought the creature to life. 132 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:06,518 He just, he was a doll 133 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,486 that had blood in him, not real blood, 134 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:10,422 but you could be its blood buddy. 135 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:11,623 I felt very strongly that there should 136 00:08:11,625 --> 00:08:13,459 be something very different about this. 137 00:08:13,461 --> 00:08:17,696 And so the story starts off in the original 138 00:08:17,698 --> 00:08:20,499 with a murderer, Brad Dourif, running through the streets 139 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:22,434 and the police are chasing him. 140 00:08:22,436 --> 00:08:24,436 And he takes refuge in a toy store. 141 00:08:24,438 --> 00:08:26,839 - And he's shot by a police detective. 142 00:08:26,841 --> 00:08:31,744 But before he dies, he does this arcane voodoo ritual 143 00:08:31,746 --> 00:08:35,881 that takes his spirit and puts it into this inanimate doll. 144 00:08:35,883 --> 00:08:38,350 - That's really what brought the creature to life. 145 00:08:42,456 --> 00:08:44,390 The name was very important. 146 00:08:44,392 --> 00:08:46,658 In Don's script it was Buddy. 147 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:49,762 For me, the men that truly haunted my childhood 148 00:08:49,764 --> 00:08:52,398 were James Earl Ray who shot Martin Luther King, 149 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,700 Lee Harvey Oswald, and Charles Manson. 150 00:08:54,702 --> 00:08:58,737 So Charles Lee Ray are all three of those names. 151 00:08:58,739 --> 00:09:02,176 And I don't know if you know that. Yeah. 152 00:09:04,311 --> 00:09:07,212 And from there his friends called him Chucky. 153 00:09:07,214 --> 00:09:08,847 - Hi, I'm Chucky, 154 00:09:08,849 --> 00:09:12,317 and I'm your friend till the end, Hidey-ho! 155 00:09:13,487 --> 00:09:15,487 - We follow young Andy Barclay who's 156 00:09:15,489 --> 00:09:18,457 a lonely kid living with a single mom. 157 00:09:18,459 --> 00:09:20,492 And he wants a Good Guys doll, 158 00:09:20,494 --> 00:09:23,762 'cause it's the rage in toys that year. 159 00:09:23,764 --> 00:09:27,466 And Andy's mom buys that doll for Andy. 160 00:09:27,468 --> 00:09:29,902 And pretty soon Andy has a new best friend, 161 00:09:29,904 --> 00:09:32,505 but it's not the kind of best friend that you want. 162 00:09:32,507 --> 00:09:34,206 It's more of his worst friend. 163 00:09:35,476 --> 00:09:37,443 - Hi, I'm Chucky, wanna play? 164 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,747 - For my presentation what I had done are sketches 165 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:44,283 of what I thought Chucky would look like, 166 00:09:44,285 --> 00:09:45,717 I mean in fierce form. 167 00:09:45,719 --> 00:09:49,655 You know, they all have kind of like jumpers or overalls. 168 00:09:49,657 --> 00:09:53,459 What I did was I took elements of childhood implements, 169 00:09:53,461 --> 00:09:55,427 like a little kid's baseball bat, 170 00:09:55,429 --> 00:09:58,630 things that are overall innocuous to murder. 171 00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:00,866 That kind of became an important signature piece for him 172 00:10:00,868 --> 00:10:03,836 for that clothing and the colors that go with that. 173 00:10:03,838 --> 00:10:06,539 The My Buddy doll that Don spoke of had red hair. 174 00:10:06,541 --> 00:10:08,575 - In fairy tales, the archetype of some, 175 00:10:08,577 --> 00:10:11,544 you know, redheads evil, 176 00:10:11,546 --> 00:10:13,679 you know, and that's partly why Chucky has red hair. 177 00:10:13,681 --> 00:10:15,714 I mean, it's just, it's silly and ridiculous. 178 00:10:15,716 --> 00:10:17,716 And of course, we know redheads are 179 00:10:17,718 --> 00:10:20,619 the nicest people in the world, 180 00:10:20,621 --> 00:10:24,992 but in fairy tales they are harbingers of evil. 181 00:10:25,659 --> 00:10:28,561 - The more important part was turning 182 00:10:28,563 --> 00:10:30,662 this kind of benign doll that could be seen 183 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:33,600 on the shelf at ToysRUs or something, 184 00:10:33,602 --> 00:10:35,535 and what it would look like when the monster came out. 185 00:10:35,537 --> 00:10:36,802 - I said talk to me, dammit, 186 00:10:36,804 --> 00:10:39,404 or else I'm gonna throw you in the fire! 187 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:41,373 - You stupid bitch! 188 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:42,374 You filthy slut! 189 00:10:42,376 --> 00:10:44,710 - In those shots, he kind of changed from 190 00:10:44,712 --> 00:10:47,713 the mop-haired guy to a bit of a receding hairline. 191 00:10:47,715 --> 00:10:49,748 A lot of Jack Nicholson honestly was my inspiration 192 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:52,519 from "The Shining" for that face. 193 00:10:54,822 --> 00:10:58,390 - I can't think of a thing to say. Fuck it. 194 00:10:58,392 --> 00:11:01,226 - Chucky's very famous. 195 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:02,629 - Chucky's so famous. 196 00:11:02,631 --> 00:11:04,463 Chucky's the most famous thing you've done, right? 197 00:11:04,465 --> 00:11:07,266 - Yeah, but I'm nowhere near 198 00:11:07,268 --> 00:11:08,635 the star Chucky is. 199 00:11:08,637 --> 00:11:10,702 - I was, you know, a huge fan of his even 200 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:12,539 just starting as a kid, growing up, 201 00:11:12,541 --> 00:11:13,839 "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." 202 00:11:13,841 --> 00:11:17,776 I was a freshman at Columbia University, 18 years old, 203 00:11:17,778 --> 00:11:20,679 and he was teaching an acting class there, 204 00:11:20,681 --> 00:11:23,749 and I audited the acting class. 205 00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:26,586 And then he coincidentally ended up playing 206 00:11:26,588 --> 00:11:27,920 this character that I created. 207 00:11:27,922 --> 00:11:31,490 I didn't cast him, Tom Holland, who was the director 208 00:11:31,492 --> 00:11:33,425 of the first movie, cast Brad. 209 00:11:33,427 --> 00:11:35,394 - What was it like to switch from, 210 00:11:35,396 --> 00:11:36,931 you know, acting to voice acting? 211 00:11:40,434 --> 00:11:42,801 - It's the same thing, really. 212 00:11:42,803 --> 00:11:46,772 You get innately into how to work with a microphone. 213 00:11:46,774 --> 00:11:49,708 After a while you just kind of fall into it. 214 00:11:49,710 --> 00:11:51,843 - So much of that character is the voice. 215 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:55,249 And you can tell that he seems to be having fun 216 00:11:55,550 --> 00:11:57,684 as a little doll that came to life. 217 00:11:57,686 --> 00:11:59,718 You know, like, okay, I'm stuck with this, 218 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,588 but I'm gonna have fun with it. 219 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:04,691 - It's really fun and inspiring to work with him. 220 00:12:04,693 --> 00:12:07,392 The thing about Brad is he does not condescend 221 00:12:07,394 --> 00:12:08,393 to this at all. 222 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:09,696 Brad like approaches this 223 00:12:09,698 --> 00:12:11,730 as like, "Where is he coming from?" 224 00:12:11,732 --> 00:12:13,332 I mean, he doesn't literally say, 225 00:12:13,334 --> 00:12:14,601 "What is Chucky's motivation?" 226 00:12:14,603 --> 00:12:17,704 But we do, we talk about it in the way 227 00:12:17,706 --> 00:12:19,706 that I do with any character, any other actor. 228 00:12:19,708 --> 00:12:21,873 And we're thinking, what is the subtext here? 229 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:24,743 - There's something really fun about being the villain. 230 00:12:24,745 --> 00:12:27,680 That weird motivation of I want to hurt. 231 00:12:27,682 --> 00:12:29,649 I don't care who I step on, 232 00:12:29,651 --> 00:12:31,383 this is what I want and I'm going to, 233 00:12:31,385 --> 00:12:32,719 and I'm going to get it. 234 00:12:32,721 --> 00:12:34,419 There's something sort of weird 235 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:37,557 and pure about that motivation. 236 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,424 It's kind of fun. 237 00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:41,293 Which is even really scarier. 238 00:12:41,295 --> 00:12:43,563 That's the scary part. 239 00:12:43,565 --> 00:12:46,532 I mean, I think it's finding the truth in yourself 240 00:12:46,534 --> 00:12:48,735 about your own emotions and feelings, 241 00:12:48,737 --> 00:12:50,503 and the elements that lead you there. 242 00:12:50,505 --> 00:12:51,903 You can give yourself 243 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:54,641 a million different reasons why you behave the way you do. 244 00:12:54,643 --> 00:12:56,709 It's justification for you. 245 00:12:56,711 --> 00:12:59,244 You find a justification in your own evil. 246 00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:01,413 - Acting is intention. 247 00:13:01,415 --> 00:13:04,517 And you know, all of us have a sort of 248 00:13:04,519 --> 00:13:06,952 a really violent heart. 249 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:10,455 I mean we're all killers. There's no such thing as evil. 250 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:12,359 All evil is just humanity. 251 00:13:14,795 --> 00:13:18,665 It's unacceptable, but it's still human. 252 00:13:18,667 --> 00:13:21,800 - I think we create a scenario for ourselves 253 00:13:21,802 --> 00:13:24,637 that enables us to carry out something horrible. 254 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:26,805 - You know, history is replete 255 00:13:26,807 --> 00:13:32,210 with horrible acts of violence, and cruelty. 256 00:13:32,212 --> 00:13:33,881 And we all are capable. 257 00:13:34,783 --> 00:13:37,517 I think we like to call things evil, 258 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,519 because we like to pretend that we're not, but we are. 259 00:13:46,427 --> 00:13:48,460 - He works at it hard, 260 00:13:48,462 --> 00:13:50,797 and so that's, I really appreciate that. 261 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:54,567 - So when you're playing something like that, 262 00:13:54,569 --> 00:13:57,836 you're just using that part of yourself. 263 00:13:57,838 --> 00:14:01,541 You don't actually kill anybody, but you do intend to. 264 00:14:01,543 --> 00:14:03,676 - Give me the boy and I'll let you live! 265 00:14:03,678 --> 00:14:07,479 Do you hear me? Give me the boy! 266 00:14:07,481 --> 00:14:08,882 - I've never been afraid of the doll, 267 00:14:10,184 --> 00:14:11,718 and I'm not afraid of Brad. 268 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,723 - When I met Alex, he was six, I was 25. 269 00:14:16,725 --> 00:14:20,392 It's just a weird context to meet some, you know, 270 00:14:20,394 --> 00:14:24,363 to meet a child in a professional context 271 00:14:24,365 --> 00:14:25,864 where you're colleagues. 272 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,467 - I don't remember much else about being six, 273 00:14:28,469 --> 00:14:29,401 but I remember being in the film. 274 00:14:29,403 --> 00:14:31,571 And I remember a lot of things 275 00:14:31,573 --> 00:14:33,639 about making it and behind the scenes. 276 00:14:33,641 --> 00:14:35,874 - He was you know, just this little like actor, 277 00:14:35,876 --> 00:14:39,612 who sometimes felt like my boss in a weird way. 278 00:14:39,614 --> 00:14:42,414 - I mean, being a child actor 279 00:14:42,416 --> 00:14:46,652 is an interesting situation for sure. 280 00:14:46,654 --> 00:14:48,688 'Cause you're given a lot of the responsibility of an adult. 281 00:14:48,690 --> 00:14:50,422 - He never directed me when I was younger. 282 00:14:50,424 --> 00:14:51,591 He was just the writer. 283 00:14:51,593 --> 00:14:53,659 I idolized Don when I was a kid. 284 00:14:53,661 --> 00:14:56,328 - In addition to being a good actor, 285 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:58,430 he's a really smart guy. 286 00:14:58,432 --> 00:14:59,599 - And I was a bright kid. 287 00:14:59,601 --> 00:15:01,701 I wasn't like a kid that was just like, 288 00:15:01,703 --> 00:15:03,770 "Okay, get in front of the camera, Johnny, and now do this." 289 00:15:03,772 --> 00:15:05,738 I had the entire script memorized. 290 00:15:05,740 --> 00:15:07,540 I knew everybody's lines, all my lines, 291 00:15:07,542 --> 00:15:08,808 all everybody else's lines. 292 00:15:08,810 --> 00:15:11,410 - It's just so funny seeing a seven-year-old, 293 00:15:11,412 --> 00:15:12,645 like "We need to go over this scene. 294 00:15:12,647 --> 00:15:14,514 I don't like like this dialogue. 295 00:15:14,516 --> 00:15:16,716 I don't know if this line works." 296 00:15:16,718 --> 00:15:17,983 - There's just something really funny 297 00:15:17,985 --> 00:15:22,354 about a child cursing too, that's so upsetting. 298 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:24,489 But when he's like. 299 00:15:24,491 --> 00:15:26,659 - He said, Aunt Maggie was a real bitch, 300 00:15:26,661 --> 00:15:28,661 and got what she deserved. 301 00:15:28,663 --> 00:15:30,630 - I showed it to my boyfriend for the first time. 302 00:15:30,632 --> 00:15:31,664 He was like, "Why is that kid saying that?" 303 00:15:31,666 --> 00:15:34,399 I'm like, "It's not him, it's the doll! 304 00:15:34,401 --> 00:15:36,468 It's Chucky. It's not his fault!" 305 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:38,336 - I had never seen anything like that. 306 00:15:38,338 --> 00:15:41,574 And anytime a movie uses a kid, 307 00:15:41,576 --> 00:15:44,544 I am on another level of frightened. 308 00:15:44,546 --> 00:15:47,547 - By day children imagine and pretend. 309 00:15:47,549 --> 00:15:49,715 By night children have the darkest of imaginations. 310 00:15:49,717 --> 00:15:51,383 - That's kind of one of the cool things 311 00:15:51,385 --> 00:15:52,752 about having a child actor, 312 00:15:52,754 --> 00:15:55,521 like, especially in "Child's Play," you know? 313 00:15:55,523 --> 00:15:57,723 Because there is that sort of innocence 314 00:15:57,725 --> 00:16:00,492 and that quality of they're not putting on a front. 315 00:16:00,494 --> 00:16:03,495 They're not putting on a certain demeanor. 316 00:16:03,497 --> 00:16:05,865 They're just being very truthful. 317 00:16:05,867 --> 00:16:07,934 - You know, the beauty and then the dark side 318 00:16:07,936 --> 00:16:11,737 of what the character goes through, loss, separation. 319 00:16:11,739 --> 00:16:14,540 It's an important part of childhood. 320 00:16:14,542 --> 00:16:15,775 And I think that's why Don's script originally appealed 321 00:16:15,777 --> 00:16:18,644 to me because here was this child 322 00:16:18,646 --> 00:16:20,479 that was saying, "My doll's come to life 323 00:16:20,481 --> 00:16:22,147 and has spoken to me." 324 00:16:22,149 --> 00:16:23,683 - Andy stop it. 325 00:16:23,685 --> 00:16:26,519 You know perfectly well that you're making this up. 326 00:16:26,521 --> 00:16:28,721 - And one by one people around him start dying. 327 00:16:28,723 --> 00:16:30,790 - And sometimes, especially in horror films, 328 00:16:30,792 --> 00:16:35,661 I feel like that gives one of the most jarring reactions. 329 00:16:35,663 --> 00:16:37,797 - That crying scene that I did in the first one, 330 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:41,567 where Andy breaks down and is scared for his life 331 00:16:41,569 --> 00:16:43,636 that Chucky's coming to kill him.. 332 00:16:43,638 --> 00:16:46,539 - After Chucky has murdered several people, 333 00:16:46,541 --> 00:16:49,575 Andy is taken to a mental institution as a suspect. 334 00:16:49,577 --> 00:16:51,376 - It's like the little boy that cried wolf, 335 00:16:51,378 --> 00:16:52,812 except he's telling the truth. 336 00:16:52,814 --> 00:16:56,582 And it's so insane that no one would believe him 337 00:16:56,584 --> 00:16:58,383 and he's separated from his mother. 338 00:16:58,385 --> 00:16:59,652 - Meanwhile, Chucky is trying 339 00:16:59,654 --> 00:17:02,555 to take over Andy's body and soul. 340 00:17:02,557 --> 00:17:04,824 - He's locked up, but he like slides down the chair. 341 00:17:04,826 --> 00:17:06,559 And he's crying, 'cause Chucky's coming after him, 342 00:17:06,561 --> 00:17:07,727 and they don't believe him. 343 00:17:07,729 --> 00:17:10,630 - I was so dreading that scene to begin with. 344 00:17:10,632 --> 00:17:12,397 Like I was just really dreading it, 345 00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:13,766 because it was a crying scene. 346 00:17:13,768 --> 00:17:16,702 - I think that as a kid too, you hate crying on camera, 347 00:17:16,704 --> 00:17:17,870 because you just wanna have fun. 348 00:17:17,872 --> 00:17:20,438 And now as an adult, I'm like, when can I cry? 349 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,575 - When it finally came time to do it, 350 00:17:22,577 --> 00:17:25,410 I just kind of let loose and was crying. 351 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:28,215 - Please don't leave me, please. 352 00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:35,253 - I legit, am like, that poor kid. 353 00:17:35,255 --> 00:17:36,656 He's about to get got. 354 00:17:36,658 --> 00:17:38,524 - There are people who have said it's, 355 00:17:38,526 --> 00:17:40,726 you could just kick the doll, it's not scary. 356 00:17:40,728 --> 00:17:42,628 And I never understand that. 357 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:45,363 - This little toy, how scary can it be? 358 00:17:45,365 --> 00:17:46,566 You could kick him over. 359 00:17:46,568 --> 00:17:48,501 You could throw him across the room. 360 00:17:48,503 --> 00:17:50,736 - I mean, if I walk through my house 361 00:17:50,738 --> 00:17:53,438 and a doll came to life, I'd probably just have 362 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,707 a heart attack and die. 363 00:17:54,709 --> 00:17:56,909 I mean, that's really scary. 364 00:17:56,911 --> 00:17:59,277 - I think that's why audiences embrace the character, 365 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,413 'cause he is an underdog. 366 00:18:01,415 --> 00:18:02,848 You know, he is resilient. 367 00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:07,252 He can overcome his shortcomings and do the job. 368 00:18:11,025 --> 00:18:13,559 - I had just gotten in the Writer's Guild, 369 00:18:13,561 --> 00:18:15,628 and there was a strike, 370 00:18:15,630 --> 00:18:18,598 so I was not able to be on the set for "Child's Play" one. 371 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,466 But then when the movie was in post 372 00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:23,703 and they were editing David very graciously, 373 00:18:23,705 --> 00:18:24,737 'cause he didn't have to do this, 374 00:18:24,739 --> 00:18:27,540 and a lot of producers wouldn't do it, 375 00:18:27,542 --> 00:18:29,642 invited me into the editing room 376 00:18:29,644 --> 00:18:30,876 just to see what they were doing. 377 00:18:30,878 --> 00:18:33,579 And just to get my opinion for what it was worth. 378 00:18:33,581 --> 00:18:36,782 - It's funny because what Don was so taken by, 379 00:18:36,784 --> 00:18:38,651 and when Liz and I were in London, 380 00:18:38,653 --> 00:18:41,554 and I bought that book on Victorian dollhouse murders, 381 00:18:41,556 --> 00:18:43,556 there's just something in us, people 382 00:18:43,558 --> 00:18:44,924 that are frightened of dolls. 383 00:18:44,926 --> 00:18:47,560 And people say all the time, "I'm frightened of dolls." 384 00:18:47,562 --> 00:18:49,294 - Because there's something about an inanimate object 385 00:18:49,296 --> 00:18:50,898 that's like, so 386 00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:54,500 no emotion, but like just a smile. 387 00:18:54,502 --> 00:18:57,570 - This like frozen expression 388 00:18:57,572 --> 00:19:01,373 that leaves your imagination room 389 00:19:01,375 --> 00:19:03,542 to do anything and go anywhere. 390 00:19:03,544 --> 00:19:06,646 - I do think that it's the idea of bringing 391 00:19:06,648 --> 00:19:11,449 the effigy of human form to life, that shouldn't be. 392 00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:12,852 - But that was really nice of him. 393 00:19:12,854 --> 00:19:17,556 And I think it was really at that point that we bonded, 394 00:19:17,558 --> 00:19:20,660 not just as colleagues, but as friends. 395 00:19:20,662 --> 00:19:24,597 And you know, and then happily the movie was successful, 396 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:25,898 and they wanted to do a sequel. 397 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:28,433 - In fact, if it was a movie it would take three 398 00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:30,803 or four sequels just to do it justice. 399 00:19:49,824 --> 00:19:52,758 - I was so proud of the work that everybody did, 400 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,696 but I never dreamed there would be a sequel. 401 00:19:56,698 --> 00:19:58,664 I didn't even think like that. 402 00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:00,766 It was the movie we were gonna do and then move on. 403 00:20:00,768 --> 00:20:02,535 - You know, and so we did two movies back 404 00:20:02,537 --> 00:20:04,537 to back, basically. 405 00:20:04,539 --> 00:20:06,806 - I brought Don back on the second film. 406 00:20:06,808 --> 00:20:10,375 Yes, he was rewritten by John Lafia on the first film, 407 00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:12,578 and then Tom Holland after that. 408 00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:16,582 But he has always had a first position writer's credit 409 00:20:16,584 --> 00:20:18,751 on 30 years of Chucky. 410 00:20:18,753 --> 00:20:21,520 - In "Child's Play 2" Andy Barclay is sent 411 00:20:21,522 --> 00:20:23,556 to live with foster parents, 412 00:20:23,558 --> 00:20:25,758 played by Jenny Agutter and Gerrit Graham. 413 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,593 And of course they don't believe him 414 00:20:27,595 --> 00:20:29,662 that this doll has been haunting him 415 00:20:29,664 --> 00:20:31,697 for so much of his young life. 416 00:20:31,699 --> 00:20:35,201 And they soon wind up risking Chucky's wrath. 417 00:20:35,203 --> 00:20:35,837 - I've had it! 418 00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:40,172 - But you've got to kill him! 419 00:20:40,174 --> 00:20:41,640 - Andy! 420 00:20:41,642 --> 00:20:43,542 - I don't have any favorite individual memories 421 00:20:43,544 --> 00:20:45,644 from that set because I was, 422 00:20:45,646 --> 00:20:48,514 the entire experience was so exciting for me. 423 00:20:48,516 --> 00:20:51,684 I was so unbelievably happy to be there. 424 00:20:51,686 --> 00:20:53,919 - This was really the big, big production. 425 00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:56,421 So I really looked up to all those people when I was a kid. 426 00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:58,557 And I had a lifetime of remembering 427 00:20:58,559 --> 00:20:59,725 that I looked up to them. 428 00:20:59,727 --> 00:21:01,560 - He was seven and I was 24. 429 00:21:01,562 --> 00:21:04,496 So while I was like a big sister to him then. 430 00:21:04,498 --> 00:21:05,898 And he has since told me that I was 431 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:08,433 the person he remembers being nicest to him then. 432 00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:09,769 He really felt like I was his big sister. 433 00:21:09,771 --> 00:21:12,671 - Christine, for example, you know, 434 00:21:12,673 --> 00:21:14,740 she really feels like my older sister. 435 00:21:14,742 --> 00:21:16,809 - It's a relationship that's rarely explored 436 00:21:16,811 --> 00:21:18,944 in horror movies or movies in general 437 00:21:18,946 --> 00:21:21,479 is like the foster sibling relationship. 438 00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:22,882 He is a little messed up from his experience, 439 00:21:22,884 --> 00:21:27,485 but he has this older sibling he attaches onto real fast. 440 00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:29,622 She treats him as an equal and she's like, 441 00:21:29,624 --> 00:21:31,857 "Yep, life's messed up, but I'll help you out." 442 00:21:31,859 --> 00:21:33,793 And she goes to bat for him. It's really nice. 443 00:21:33,795 --> 00:21:35,728 - I auditioned the way everyone does. 444 00:21:35,730 --> 00:21:37,596 I went to a, you know, my agent got me an appointment, 445 00:21:37,598 --> 00:21:38,764 and I went and I read. 446 00:21:38,766 --> 00:21:41,567 My stock and trade at the time was 447 00:21:41,569 --> 00:21:42,868 the offbeat misunderstood, tough chick without a gold, 448 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:45,436 which was my stock and trade for many, many years. 449 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,472 And I didn't get it. 450 00:21:47,474 --> 00:21:49,608 But I got an episode of "21 Jump Street" 451 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:50,676 that I went and did. 452 00:21:50,678 --> 00:21:51,777 And then I came back from that. 453 00:21:51,779 --> 00:21:53,378 And the day I came back from "Jumpstreet," 454 00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,780 I got an episode of the then "Baywatch." 455 00:21:54,782 --> 00:21:57,516 And I was working and I felt really empowered. 456 00:21:57,518 --> 00:21:59,852 They hadn't found the Kyle yet, 457 00:21:59,854 --> 00:22:02,288 and so they decided to go back and read the girls 458 00:22:02,290 --> 00:22:03,889 that had been near misses. 459 00:22:03,891 --> 00:22:06,792 And I went back and I went back with attitude though. 460 00:22:06,794 --> 00:22:08,761 I had a call time, I didn't have time to waste. 461 00:22:08,763 --> 00:22:09,695 I had to get in and out of there, 462 00:22:09,697 --> 00:22:10,729 and get my ass to the beach, 463 00:22:10,731 --> 00:22:12,965 and do a whole day on "Baywatch." 464 00:22:12,967 --> 00:22:16,535 My attitude shifted enormously for that second audition. 465 00:22:16,537 --> 00:22:18,604 And I think that's why I got it. 466 00:22:18,606 --> 00:22:20,506 That black leather hat that I'm wearing, it's my hat. 467 00:22:20,508 --> 00:22:21,472 I've worn it in a ton of stuff. 468 00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:23,341 I wore it in the old "90210." 469 00:22:23,343 --> 00:22:24,743 I wore it in the new "90210." 470 00:22:24,745 --> 00:22:27,412 I wore it in the old Chucky and the new Chucky. 471 00:22:27,414 --> 00:22:28,781 It's a single most important piece 472 00:22:28,783 --> 00:22:31,584 of memorabilia from my career that I have. 473 00:22:31,586 --> 00:22:33,619 And it's weird 'cause I owned it before I was an actor. 474 00:22:33,621 --> 00:22:36,454 - They made a big maze out of the empty Chucky boxes. 475 00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:37,656 It was a lot of fun. 476 00:22:37,658 --> 00:22:40,259 And I remember, you know, melting down Chucky 477 00:22:40,261 --> 00:22:41,660 with that hot wax. 478 00:22:41,662 --> 00:22:43,361 It wasn't really hot, but it looked hot. 479 00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:44,697 - And then that last sequence 480 00:22:44,699 --> 00:22:47,766 in the toy factory is just incredible. 481 00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,536 Like that's, when you see a movie about a killer toy, 482 00:22:50,538 --> 00:22:52,705 you want it to end in a toy factory. 483 00:22:52,707 --> 00:22:56,275 - All those scenes were action packed parts of the film, 484 00:22:56,277 --> 00:22:57,710 but also time consuming. 485 00:22:57,712 --> 00:23:01,614 Because if it's more demanding of us physically, 486 00:23:01,616 --> 00:23:03,616 it's most likely more demanding of Chucky, 487 00:23:03,618 --> 00:23:06,752 and that means a lot of extra puppeteer work. 488 00:23:06,754 --> 00:23:09,454 - It takes all nine puppeteers to work him. 489 00:23:09,456 --> 00:23:12,291 We got a guy on legs, a guy on one arm, 490 00:23:12,293 --> 00:23:13,692 a guy on another arm. 491 00:23:13,694 --> 00:23:15,961 Three facial puppeteers working the lips, 492 00:23:15,963 --> 00:23:18,833 the brows, the eyes, a puppeteer on the head and body. 493 00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,469 - Andy! Hurry up he's right behind you! 494 00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:27,773 - You bastard! 495 00:23:27,775 --> 00:23:30,276 - You know, this small army of technicians were needed 496 00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:31,510 to bring Chucky to life. 497 00:23:31,512 --> 00:23:33,846 - It's really sort of an animated movie. 498 00:23:33,848 --> 00:23:36,382 You know, it's shot in live action and stuff, 499 00:23:36,384 --> 00:23:38,416 but he was completely animated 500 00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:40,753 just in a sort of a puppet sense. 501 00:23:40,755 --> 00:23:42,755 - And Kevin rounded up some of the best of, 502 00:23:42,757 --> 00:23:44,857 you know, people in the business. 503 00:23:44,859 --> 00:23:49,460 - The biggest challenge, I think again, for us, 504 00:23:49,462 --> 00:23:50,829 the crew was to get, and the puppeteers, 505 00:23:50,831 --> 00:23:53,766 was to get the doll to walk, to give a convincing walk. 506 00:23:53,768 --> 00:23:58,570 - You've been very naughty, Miss Kettlewell. 507 00:23:58,572 --> 00:24:00,539 - Now I consider Kevin a friend, 508 00:24:00,541 --> 00:24:01,774 but then he was just sort of like everybody there 509 00:24:01,776 --> 00:24:03,742 that was above me, they were gods. 510 00:24:03,744 --> 00:24:06,645 - And the puppeteering that went into bringing Chucky 511 00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:09,682 to life to do the impossible, and they did it. 512 00:24:09,684 --> 00:24:12,318 - In the first film we used a little person 513 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,386 and cut between the two. 514 00:24:14,388 --> 00:24:15,587 Kevin has now made it possible 515 00:24:15,589 --> 00:24:17,256 that we don't need a little person at all. 516 00:24:22,029 --> 00:24:25,431 - I was just really enamored of being there. 517 00:24:25,433 --> 00:24:26,832 Especially when we first started, 518 00:24:26,834 --> 00:24:28,801 the first half of the schedule was on the lot at Universal. 519 00:24:28,803 --> 00:24:30,703 And it was on a stage that had, at the time, 520 00:24:30,705 --> 00:24:32,671 the oldest existing set in the world. 521 00:24:32,673 --> 00:24:34,573 It was the opera house from 522 00:24:34,575 --> 00:24:36,308 the original "Phantom of the Opera" 523 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:37,710 which has since burned down. 524 00:24:37,712 --> 00:24:39,511 But being on the Universal lot where 525 00:24:39,513 --> 00:24:41,714 the Universal monsters were born, 526 00:24:41,716 --> 00:24:43,549 and being a working actress is just, 527 00:24:43,551 --> 00:24:44,683 you really feel like an actor. 528 00:24:44,685 --> 00:24:46,618 You really feel like you're part of 529 00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,554 that historic community when you're on one 530 00:24:48,556 --> 00:24:51,724 of those old lots, they're so magical. 531 00:24:51,726 --> 00:24:56,230 - Please, I was only playing. 532 00:24:57,298 --> 00:24:59,665 No! 533 00:25:11,846 --> 00:25:14,680 - "Child's Play 2" and three were kind of shot back-to-back. 534 00:25:14,682 --> 00:25:16,715 I think they were rushed into production. 535 00:25:16,717 --> 00:25:18,817 They came out less than a year apart. 536 00:25:18,819 --> 00:25:22,388 - They had Justin Whalin who I've never met to this day. 537 00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,390 But they had him play Andy. 538 00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:25,691 - No offense to Justin Whalin, 539 00:25:25,693 --> 00:25:28,260 but you know, I was so attached to Alex who 540 00:25:28,262 --> 00:25:30,195 is the most adorable kid. 541 00:25:30,197 --> 00:25:31,730 Yeah, to have him recast. 542 00:25:31,732 --> 00:25:33,565 I understand they wanted to age him up for story purposes. 543 00:25:33,567 --> 00:25:35,367 - Because I was not old enough. 544 00:25:35,369 --> 00:25:37,569 I was only 10 at the time. 545 00:25:37,571 --> 00:25:40,339 They wanted him to be 16 and have a girlfriend, 546 00:25:40,341 --> 00:25:41,740 and be in military school. 547 00:25:41,742 --> 00:25:43,776 - And every project that I've ever made, 548 00:25:43,778 --> 00:25:45,878 if you go through my whole filmography, 549 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,648 they all deal with children, whether it's "Hocus Pocus," 550 00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:52,217 whether it's "An American Tail" and a little Jewish mouse, 551 00:25:52,219 --> 00:25:52,887 but they're all kids. 552 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:55,522 - When I heard that we were making a third one, 553 00:25:55,524 --> 00:25:57,790 I assumed that I would be in it. 554 00:25:57,792 --> 00:26:00,759 As a 10-year-old that was a bit of a tough pill to swallow. 555 00:26:00,761 --> 00:26:04,263 - To Andy Barclay and Chucky, those are the projects 556 00:26:04,265 --> 00:26:05,564 that I'm attracted to, 557 00:26:05,566 --> 00:26:07,666 the exploration of childhood is everything to me. 558 00:26:07,668 --> 00:26:10,803 To me, it forms who we are as people. 559 00:26:10,805 --> 00:26:13,572 - What happens to real people in real life 560 00:26:13,574 --> 00:26:16,475 when they have violence happen? 561 00:26:16,477 --> 00:26:17,309 When you're a child, I mean, you would, 562 00:26:17,311 --> 00:26:18,744 it would screw you up. 563 00:26:18,746 --> 00:26:20,513 - Somehow I saw it though, when it came out. 564 00:26:20,515 --> 00:26:22,614 And you know, I thought, yeah, okay. 565 00:26:22,616 --> 00:26:24,783 Maybe I'll look like that when I'm 16. I don't know. 566 00:26:24,785 --> 00:26:27,686 I think he did a fine job. The movie was fun. 567 00:26:27,688 --> 00:26:32,460 The one liners were becoming a little more prominent. 568 00:26:33,461 --> 00:26:36,695 - Don't fuck with the Chuck. 569 00:26:36,697 --> 00:26:38,697 - It's got, you know, really good kills in it. 570 00:26:38,699 --> 00:26:40,833 - Just how sadistic it is to make 571 00:26:40,835 --> 00:26:43,469 the kids kill each other, instead of him doing the work, 572 00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:44,603 by replacing those paintballs 573 00:26:44,605 --> 00:26:46,405 with bullets and live ammunition. 574 00:26:46,407 --> 00:26:47,706 That's nuts. 575 00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:50,543 - And Chucky's death scene is spectacular in that film. 576 00:26:57,586 --> 00:27:00,185 - And then they end up killing Chucky in the end. 577 00:27:00,187 --> 00:27:01,220 Or do they? 578 00:27:16,571 --> 00:27:18,937 - And we begin "Bride of Chucky," 579 00:27:18,939 --> 00:27:22,274 with his ex-girlfriend, Tiffany, stitching him back together 580 00:27:22,276 --> 00:27:23,610 and resurrecting him. 581 00:27:23,612 --> 00:27:26,245 - Ade Due Damballa 582 00:27:26,247 --> 00:27:27,913 - Awake! 583 00:27:27,915 --> 00:27:31,551 - When I thought of that character with "Bride of Chucky," 584 00:27:31,553 --> 00:27:33,418 I knew that, you know, it needed to be a two-hander. 585 00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:38,525 - Awake. Awake, awake, awake! 586 00:27:38,527 --> 00:27:40,692 - This needed to be a movie about a relationship 587 00:27:40,694 --> 00:27:42,461 between these two characters. 588 00:27:42,463 --> 00:27:44,396 And so the "Bride of Chucky" needed 589 00:27:44,398 --> 00:27:45,831 to be very different from Chucky. 590 00:27:45,833 --> 00:27:48,700 - You look like Martha Stewart with that thing. 591 00:27:48,702 --> 00:27:51,303 - Who the fuck is Martha Stewart? 592 00:27:51,305 --> 00:27:52,804 - My idol. 593 00:27:52,806 --> 00:27:54,607 - They tried something entirely new with "Bride" 594 00:27:54,609 --> 00:27:56,643 and really changed it up. 595 00:27:56,645 --> 00:28:00,479 - It very much was the perfect adjustment 596 00:28:00,481 --> 00:28:03,815 of changing the way Chucky was. 597 00:28:03,817 --> 00:28:05,552 That those movies were into the way they needed 598 00:28:05,554 --> 00:28:07,452 to be for that era. 599 00:28:07,454 --> 00:28:09,454 - Introduced Tiffany who just revitalizes 600 00:28:09,456 --> 00:28:10,689 the series, I think. 601 00:28:10,691 --> 00:28:12,525 - You know, Chucky is kind of like 602 00:28:12,527 --> 00:28:14,726 more straightforwardly blood thirsty. 603 00:28:14,728 --> 00:28:17,564 Whereas Tiffany, you know, she has 604 00:28:17,566 --> 00:28:20,533 some conventional wants in her life. 605 00:28:20,535 --> 00:28:22,434 She wants love. She wants affection. 606 00:28:22,436 --> 00:28:23,536 She wants to be understood. 607 00:28:23,538 --> 00:28:26,338 - Oh, that's so romantic. 608 00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:28,675 - I give them six months. 609 00:28:28,677 --> 00:28:30,577 - And Tiffany is based on my friend Ronna. 610 00:28:30,579 --> 00:28:32,411 Tiffany looks just like Ronna. 611 00:28:32,413 --> 00:28:33,546 That's how those two came to be. 612 00:28:33,548 --> 00:28:35,414 Which of course, is Jennifer Tilly. 613 00:28:35,416 --> 00:28:37,082 - David Kirschner, I adore him. 614 00:28:37,084 --> 00:28:38,350 He's the one that came to me at 615 00:28:38,352 --> 00:28:40,452 the very beginning when I was sort of, 616 00:28:40,454 --> 00:28:41,887 I was sort of like digging in my heels. 617 00:28:41,889 --> 00:28:43,922 Like, I don't know if I wanna do a Chucky movie. 618 00:28:43,924 --> 00:28:46,458 And I didn't know anything about Chucky movies at the time. 619 00:28:46,460 --> 00:28:48,661 But he said, "I want to meet you." 620 00:28:48,663 --> 00:28:50,530 He did a whole presentation. 621 00:28:50,532 --> 00:28:52,464 We went to the Bel Air hotel. 622 00:28:52,466 --> 00:28:54,032 He had the Chucky doll in the trunk. 623 00:28:54,034 --> 00:28:57,736 He brought it out very reverentially like, this is Chucky. 624 00:28:57,738 --> 00:29:00,573 Like he was introducing me to Chucky. 625 00:29:00,575 --> 00:29:02,341 - I didn't know Jennifer Tilly before that, 626 00:29:02,343 --> 00:29:03,710 but I had written it for her. 627 00:29:03,712 --> 00:29:05,545 And then, you know, and just well of course, 628 00:29:05,547 --> 00:29:06,646 that's not gonna work out, 629 00:29:06,648 --> 00:29:08,313 'cause things like that rarely work out. 630 00:29:08,315 --> 00:29:09,682 But then she wanted to do it. 631 00:29:09,684 --> 00:29:11,783 - I think he felt like once I saw the Chucky doll, 632 00:29:11,785 --> 00:29:13,686 and once I heard what Chucky was all about, 633 00:29:13,688 --> 00:29:15,555 of course I would fall in love with 634 00:29:15,557 --> 00:29:17,389 the whole Chucky franchise and come on board. 635 00:29:17,391 --> 00:29:18,625 Which I actually did. 636 00:29:18,627 --> 00:29:20,425 He did a very good job of selling me on it. 637 00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:22,729 - After having done three sort 638 00:29:22,731 --> 00:29:26,499 of straightforward, relatively conventional horror movies, 639 00:29:26,501 --> 00:29:29,434 that we, you know, reinvented it as a comedy. 640 00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:31,537 And she was a big part of that. 641 00:29:31,539 --> 00:29:34,439 - When slasher series reach their burnout phase, 642 00:29:34,441 --> 00:29:36,576 the creators do one of two things. 643 00:29:36,578 --> 00:29:39,646 They either make the subsequent chapters comedic, 644 00:29:39,648 --> 00:29:41,748 horror comedies, or they play for laughs. 645 00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:44,783 Or they take their killers and put them in outer space. 646 00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:46,686 So in the case of "Bride of Chucky," I was relieved 647 00:29:46,688 --> 00:29:48,588 that they made it more comedic. 648 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,389 - I was really unprepared for, you know, 649 00:29:50,391 --> 00:29:53,660 the humor and the history, 650 00:29:53,662 --> 00:29:56,828 and just the really great writing and great characters. 651 00:29:56,830 --> 00:29:59,666 - The Chucky films were definitely revolutionary 652 00:29:59,668 --> 00:30:01,768 in introducing gay characters. 653 00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:04,637 - It was important to me with these movies 654 00:30:04,639 --> 00:30:06,874 to constantly appeal to that subset. 655 00:30:08,242 --> 00:30:11,209 That has sort of steamrolled over the last, 656 00:30:11,211 --> 00:30:12,477 since "Bride of Chucky"" 657 00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:13,680 is when we started making it pretty gay. 658 00:30:13,682 --> 00:30:15,581 - Don is gay and he's had a lot 659 00:30:15,583 --> 00:30:18,216 of really interesting sympathetic gay characters 660 00:30:18,218 --> 00:30:19,552 in the franchise. 661 00:30:19,554 --> 00:30:20,852 For example, the best friend in the "Bride of Chucky." 662 00:30:20,854 --> 00:30:23,723 - And the Alexis Arquette character and Tiffany. 663 00:30:23,725 --> 00:30:25,658 You know, Jennifer Tilly has always appealed 664 00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:27,426 to a gay audience, probably dating back 665 00:30:27,428 --> 00:30:28,795 to her role in "Bound." 666 00:30:28,797 --> 00:30:31,698 - My favorite scene, sadly, is when I was killed. 667 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:33,533 It's when Tiffany was in the bathtub. 668 00:30:33,535 --> 00:30:35,668 I thought it was so cinematic. 669 00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:39,438 When I'm watching the "Bride of Frankenstein" 670 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,906 and I'm starting to cry, 671 00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:43,676 'cause I can relate to the "Bride of Frankenstein." 672 00:30:43,678 --> 00:30:45,611 And then Chucky starts walking down the hall 673 00:30:45,613 --> 00:30:47,747 in his little Chucky legs. 674 00:30:47,749 --> 00:30:50,882 And then he throws the TV into the bathtub. 675 00:30:50,884 --> 00:30:53,686 And I'm screaming, and "Bride of Frankenstein" is screaming. 676 00:30:53,688 --> 00:30:56,254 And "Bride of Frankenstein" pops up, and I go under. 677 00:31:03,565 --> 00:31:05,698 it's just so beautifully shot. 678 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:07,600 - Just the idea that the surging electricity would cause 679 00:31:07,602 --> 00:31:09,669 all these bubbles to waft. 680 00:31:09,671 --> 00:31:11,571 I always just thought that's such a cool image. 681 00:31:11,573 --> 00:31:12,638 - That's what's so brilliant 682 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,674 about Don's creation of that scene. 683 00:31:14,676 --> 00:31:17,409 You have bubbles set against murder. 684 00:31:17,411 --> 00:31:19,679 - It just was special to me, 685 00:31:19,681 --> 00:31:24,418 because I felt like I took a step in confidence as a writer. 686 00:31:24,586 --> 00:31:26,719 I didn't direct that one. I just wrote it. 687 00:31:26,721 --> 00:31:30,757 And the director and cinematographer on that movie 688 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,258 were these amazing Chinese filmmakers, 689 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:34,694 Ronny Yu and Peter Pau. 690 00:31:34,696 --> 00:31:36,495 And it's like, you would walk on the set every day, 691 00:31:36,497 --> 00:31:38,664 it was just so beautiful. 692 00:31:38,666 --> 00:31:40,566 - I think everybody loves the makeover that she did, 693 00:31:40,568 --> 00:31:41,768 where she was just like your 694 00:31:41,770 --> 00:31:44,002 a run of the mill middle class doll. 695 00:31:44,004 --> 00:31:47,540 And all of a sudden she's putting on black nail polish, 696 00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:50,643 and combat boots and making herself like a real badass. 697 00:31:50,645 --> 00:31:53,880 - She's kind of gorg, and like kind of looks amaze. 698 00:31:53,882 --> 00:31:56,582 If she was like a really cool scene girl in real life, 699 00:31:56,584 --> 00:31:57,550 you know what I mean? 700 00:32:00,588 --> 00:32:03,790 - Barbie, eat your heart out. 701 00:32:03,792 --> 00:32:07,560 - It's probably it's anywhere minimal seven people 702 00:32:07,562 --> 00:32:10,763 but it can take up to eight or nine people per puppet. 703 00:32:10,765 --> 00:32:14,466 - Very complicated coordination. 704 00:32:14,468 --> 00:32:17,335 If you're dealing with just puppet alone, 705 00:32:17,337 --> 00:32:18,671 puppet and puppet, it's easier. 706 00:32:18,673 --> 00:32:21,239 - We did hours, and hours, and hours, 707 00:32:21,241 --> 00:32:23,676 and hours of ADR on that. 708 00:32:23,678 --> 00:32:25,410 - If you had the interaction with between, 709 00:32:25,412 --> 00:32:26,913 you know, human actor 710 00:32:26,915 --> 00:32:30,683 it has to be really figured out early on in advance 711 00:32:30,685 --> 00:32:33,318 and then has to have a lot of rehearsal. 712 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,787 - They set up these two booths, 713 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:36,656 so when we were doing the lines we could look at each other. 714 00:32:36,658 --> 00:32:38,524 It was really amazing working off of such 715 00:32:38,526 --> 00:32:39,692 a great actor as him. 716 00:32:39,694 --> 00:32:41,727 You know, sometimes I would improvise, 717 00:32:41,729 --> 00:32:43,696 and then he gives something right back. 718 00:32:43,698 --> 00:32:46,398 - She's just really funny. - She brilliant at improv. 719 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,568 Way, I mean, I'm not even close to. 720 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:49,569 She's in a different class. 721 00:32:49,571 --> 00:32:51,637 - And what does Martha tell you do 722 00:32:51,639 --> 00:32:53,405 when guests drop by for dinner 723 00:32:53,407 --> 00:32:55,209 and you haven't had time to shop? 724 00:32:56,443 --> 00:32:58,644 You improvise. 725 00:32:58,646 --> 00:33:00,513 - Upon discovering where Charles Lee Ray's body 726 00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:02,548 was buried, there's an amulet 727 00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:05,484 that can restore them back to human form. 728 00:33:05,486 --> 00:33:06,886 - All right, let's go. 729 00:33:06,888 --> 00:33:10,523 - Oh, sure. I'll steer and you can work the pedals. 730 00:33:10,525 --> 00:33:12,725 We're dolls, you dope! 731 00:33:12,727 --> 00:33:15,661 - They arrange for Tiffany's neighbor to drive them there. 732 00:33:15,663 --> 00:33:18,798 And they don't know that all the dolls are alive. 733 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,500 - Of course, they don't realize that these dolls 734 00:33:20,502 --> 00:33:22,502 are committing murders along the way. 735 00:33:22,504 --> 00:33:24,504 Murders which the kids themselves 736 00:33:24,506 --> 00:33:26,873 are then implicated for. 737 00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:29,575 - So in the process, they end up getting married. 738 00:33:29,577 --> 00:33:31,443 - Chucky having a bride, Tifanny, 739 00:33:31,445 --> 00:33:32,845 it sort of humanizes him a little bit. 740 00:33:32,847 --> 00:33:34,747 Because now you can relate to the character. 741 00:33:34,749 --> 00:33:37,482 He's not just like a homicidal little maniac. 742 00:33:37,484 --> 00:33:39,585 He has a lot of problems that most men have. 743 00:33:39,587 --> 00:33:41,821 You know, like a nagging girlfriend 744 00:33:41,823 --> 00:33:43,488 that complains she's not getting enough sex. 745 00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:45,457 - The love stuff 746 00:33:45,459 --> 00:33:49,327 between Chucky and Tiffany, both as dolls, 747 00:33:49,329 --> 00:33:51,933 was just so cute. 748 00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:54,700 And fun. 749 00:33:54,702 --> 00:33:56,669 - But then you had sex in it, which was good. 750 00:33:56,671 --> 00:33:58,336 That the "Bride of Chucky" had actually 751 00:33:58,338 --> 00:34:00,274 added sex to horror. 752 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:03,441 You never, like Godzilla didn't have sex. 753 00:34:03,443 --> 00:34:06,444 Frankenstein didn't jerk off. 754 00:34:06,446 --> 00:34:07,780 We didn't have that, really. 755 00:34:07,782 --> 00:34:11,249 We didn't have the monsters having a sex life, 756 00:34:11,251 --> 00:34:12,852 where Chucky did. 757 00:34:12,854 --> 00:34:16,488 - And some of the best stuff were totally improv. 758 00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:18,390 "You generally wear prophylactics?" 759 00:34:18,392 --> 00:34:21,094 "Tiff, I am a fucking rubber." 760 00:34:21,563 --> 00:34:23,161 - Have I got a rubber? 761 00:34:23,163 --> 00:34:24,262 - Yeah. 762 00:34:24,264 --> 00:34:25,463 - Tiff. 763 00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:26,364 - What? - Look at me! 764 00:34:26,366 --> 00:34:27,767 I'm all rubber! 765 00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:29,535 - Brad, he was looking at me all the time, 766 00:34:29,537 --> 00:34:30,736 'cause he was doing the lines. 767 00:34:30,738 --> 00:34:33,606 And at the end of the movie when my character died, 768 00:34:33,608 --> 00:34:36,542 I looked over there and tears were streaming down his face. 769 00:34:36,544 --> 00:34:38,310 He was so sad. 770 00:34:38,312 --> 00:34:39,745 And then I started crying too. 771 00:34:39,747 --> 00:34:41,681 And then afterwards he said to Don, 772 00:34:41,683 --> 00:34:44,449 "How come I haven't had a wife sooner?" 773 00:34:44,451 --> 00:34:47,218 - And they end up having a baby. 774 00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:04,604 - So what led you to take 775 00:35:04,606 --> 00:35:06,539 on Tony Gardner as head of the effects department 776 00:35:06,541 --> 00:35:08,440 in "Seed" going forward? 777 00:35:08,442 --> 00:35:09,842 Why was there that switch? 778 00:35:09,844 --> 00:35:12,745 - Well, what happened was that Kevin Yagher had worked 779 00:35:12,747 --> 00:35:14,245 with us on the first four films. 780 00:35:14,247 --> 00:35:15,748 Done a great job. 781 00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:18,383 His wife is Catherine Hicks who played 782 00:35:18,385 --> 00:35:19,417 the mom in the first film. 783 00:35:19,419 --> 00:35:20,485 All was great. 784 00:35:20,487 --> 00:35:22,454 And then when we were going 785 00:35:22,456 --> 00:35:24,422 to make our fifth film, Universal could 786 00:35:24,424 --> 00:35:25,591 not make the deal with him. 787 00:35:25,593 --> 00:35:27,526 They were just too far apart. 788 00:35:27,528 --> 00:35:29,629 We were cutting our budget very far back. 789 00:35:29,631 --> 00:35:33,599 - As your slasher series go on each subsequent film 790 00:35:33,601 --> 00:35:35,501 makes less than the one before it. 791 00:35:35,503 --> 00:35:37,870 So there's diminishing returns. 792 00:35:37,872 --> 00:35:42,474 So yeah, the money men tend to slash the budget. 793 00:35:42,476 --> 00:35:45,443 - And they wouldn't budge. 794 00:35:45,445 --> 00:35:46,746 And they were unfair to someone 795 00:35:46,748 --> 00:35:48,914 that had been really loyal and had done a great job. 796 00:35:48,916 --> 00:35:51,784 - I loved what Tony Gardner brought to the series as well. 797 00:35:51,786 --> 00:35:53,786 - Then there was the opportunity to meet him. 798 00:35:53,788 --> 00:35:56,589 And because we had done "Hocus Pocus" together, 799 00:35:56,591 --> 00:35:59,792 to call him and say, "Are you interested in doing this? 800 00:35:59,794 --> 00:36:01,794 It's Chucky, you'd be taking over for Kevin." 801 00:36:01,796 --> 00:36:04,664 And I think he was a little hesitant of that. 802 00:36:04,666 --> 00:36:07,265 He's a loyal person and loyal to his craft. 803 00:36:07,267 --> 00:36:08,136 But I said, you know, 804 00:36:08,201 --> 00:36:09,835 "If it's not you it's gonna be somebody. 805 00:36:09,837 --> 00:36:12,571 And you did such a great job on 'Hocus.' 806 00:36:12,573 --> 00:36:13,706 Would you consider this?" 807 00:36:13,708 --> 00:36:15,641 Have you ever done anything like this?" 808 00:36:15,643 --> 00:36:16,776 And he said, "Well, not bring a doll to life, 809 00:36:16,778 --> 00:36:18,410 but I've done plenty of other things, 810 00:36:18,412 --> 00:36:19,712 bringing things to life." 811 00:36:19,714 --> 00:36:22,414 So Don and I went out and met with him. 812 00:36:22,416 --> 00:36:23,816 - I like working with smart people, 813 00:36:23,818 --> 00:36:27,352 because they're allies when you're making it together, 814 00:36:27,354 --> 00:36:28,854 as he definitely was. 815 00:36:28,856 --> 00:36:31,791 - And it's been this partnership ever since. 816 00:36:31,793 --> 00:36:34,627 - Chucky and the puppeteers, you all have 817 00:36:34,629 --> 00:36:37,830 to like descend together into this fantasy. 818 00:36:37,832 --> 00:36:41,634 We all have to go into this realm of this place 819 00:36:41,636 --> 00:36:43,502 that we've created and make it believable. 820 00:36:43,504 --> 00:36:44,503 - It's queued up. 821 00:36:46,774 --> 00:36:50,945 - What? Oh, sorry. You were saying. 822 00:36:51,546 --> 00:36:53,278 That's a cut. 823 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,479 Tony, you guys happy? 824 00:36:54,481 --> 00:36:55,447 - Yeah, let's go with that. 825 00:36:55,449 --> 00:36:57,817 - I find a thrill in making something 826 00:36:57,819 --> 00:37:02,123 that isn't real be perceived as real to somebody else. 827 00:37:02,724 --> 00:37:04,790 It was sort of an odd start for us, 828 00:37:04,792 --> 00:37:07,793 because we were supposed to copy Kevin Yagher's puppets. 829 00:37:07,795 --> 00:37:11,797 But we had no resources from Universal or from Kevin. 830 00:37:11,799 --> 00:37:15,668 All we had to go from VHS copies of the movie. 831 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:18,671 We would freeze the VHS copy of the movie 832 00:37:18,673 --> 00:37:21,707 and take stills off of the TV. 833 00:37:21,709 --> 00:37:23,676 And that was our point of reference. 834 00:37:23,678 --> 00:37:26,579 We had like three months to build everything. 835 00:37:26,581 --> 00:37:29,648 And then we were off to Romania and right into it. 836 00:37:29,650 --> 00:37:32,651 We had a whole team of puppeteers come in 837 00:37:32,653 --> 00:37:34,687 from England to support us. 838 00:37:34,689 --> 00:37:37,489 There were five of us from the United States, 839 00:37:37,491 --> 00:37:40,526 and then another 15 people from the UK. 840 00:37:40,528 --> 00:37:42,561 So we had amazing resources, 841 00:37:42,563 --> 00:37:45,631 and just had a great time. 842 00:37:45,633 --> 00:37:47,465 Another thing that was really fun was getting 843 00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:50,435 to sort of design Glen from the ground up. 844 00:37:50,437 --> 00:37:51,837 We knew he had to have sharp teeth, 845 00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:54,472 because that had been established in "Bride." 846 00:37:54,474 --> 00:37:56,575 But other than that we were free 847 00:37:56,577 --> 00:37:59,344 to play with Glen, which was really awesome. 848 00:37:59,346 --> 00:38:00,813 - And I love how Glen looks. 849 00:38:00,815 --> 00:38:03,849 He looks like a Walter Keane painting, 850 00:38:03,851 --> 00:38:07,720 or Margaret Keane who actually did them, gone to horror. 851 00:38:07,722 --> 00:38:09,757 - It was just kind of fun, you know. 852 00:38:10,658 --> 00:38:13,626 Just trying to invent who this character is. 853 00:38:13,628 --> 00:38:15,561 Don had this idea that it should be 854 00:38:15,563 --> 00:38:18,429 a sort of Dickensian character. 855 00:38:18,431 --> 00:38:20,666 It should be like Oliver Twist. 856 00:38:20,668 --> 00:38:22,501 - Don felt strongly that it would be great 857 00:38:22,503 --> 00:38:26,337 to explore further the family dynamics 858 00:38:26,339 --> 00:38:28,641 of including this child. 859 00:38:28,643 --> 00:38:31,744 - Look, I still have the necklace you left me. 860 00:38:31,746 --> 00:38:34,513 - It just seemed natural that we would evolve 861 00:38:34,515 --> 00:38:36,549 into a domestic drama. 862 00:38:36,551 --> 00:38:37,783 - "Seed of Chucky" I think was one 863 00:38:37,785 --> 00:38:39,785 of the most bizarre experiences of my life. 864 00:38:39,787 --> 00:38:42,555 It's just really bizarre to be looking at 865 00:38:42,557 --> 00:38:45,524 a little tiny doll with her little eyes blinking, going, 866 00:38:45,526 --> 00:38:48,294 "Miss Tilly, you can do it the easy way. 867 00:38:48,296 --> 00:38:50,497 - Or the hard way. 868 00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:52,531 - I was playing myself, Jennifer Tilly, 869 00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,501 international film star. 870 00:38:55,503 --> 00:38:58,504 I was playing Tiffany, a talking doll 871 00:38:58,506 --> 00:38:59,905 that was my biggest fan. 872 00:38:59,907 --> 00:39:04,475 And then I played Tiffany in Jennifer Tilly's body. 873 00:39:04,477 --> 00:39:07,513 - Jennifer completely mocks herself in this movie 874 00:39:07,515 --> 00:39:09,014 in a way that I think people will love her for. 875 00:39:09,016 --> 00:39:12,483 - How come I don't ever get any of the good roles anymore? 876 00:39:12,485 --> 00:39:15,221 How come nobody takes me seriously? 877 00:39:15,223 --> 00:39:16,322 - Nice tits. 878 00:39:16,324 --> 00:39:17,355 - Thank you. 879 00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:18,791 - Yeah, I had a partner, 880 00:39:18,793 --> 00:39:22,528 you know, we were arguing and smooching, 881 00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:24,599 and you know, doing whatever we were doing. 882 00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:28,466 You know, murdering together. 883 00:39:28,468 --> 00:39:29,535 - Having a kid together. 884 00:39:29,537 --> 00:39:31,537 - Having a kid together. 885 00:39:31,539 --> 00:39:33,572 - I knew Brad because of "Lord of the Rings." 886 00:39:33,574 --> 00:39:35,708 Brad of course, is Wormtongue. 887 00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:37,676 - Did you guys ever get to be 888 00:39:37,678 --> 00:39:39,545 in the booth together when you did voiceover for "Seed"? 889 00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:41,680 - Nah, it was just me. 890 00:39:41,682 --> 00:39:44,415 Don had all these pictures of what everybody 891 00:39:44,417 --> 00:39:45,684 was going to look like. 892 00:39:45,686 --> 00:39:48,587 And then he had readings of most of 893 00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:50,556 the other characters for the scene, 894 00:39:50,558 --> 00:39:52,524 so I knew how they played it. 895 00:39:52,526 --> 00:39:53,559 But we didn't play it together. 896 00:39:53,561 --> 00:39:55,794 - So I had different voices for Tiffany. 897 00:39:55,796 --> 00:39:58,463 When Tiffany was a person I had sort of like 898 00:39:58,465 --> 00:40:00,499 a Marilyn Monroe-esque, like kind of, 899 00:40:00,501 --> 00:40:02,635 like white trashy voice. 900 00:40:02,637 --> 00:40:04,637 And then when she went into the doll, 901 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:06,437 I made it more of a tinny voice. 902 00:40:06,439 --> 00:40:07,506 'Cause I figured the doll doesn't have 903 00:40:07,508 --> 00:40:08,641 like really strong vocal chords. 904 00:40:08,643 --> 00:40:09,508 So I made it more of a doll-like voice. 905 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:11,510 - Yes, he is. 906 00:40:11,512 --> 00:40:13,312 - Joan, will you please stop doing that? 907 00:40:13,314 --> 00:40:14,513 - Doing what? 908 00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:16,481 - Imitating me. I do not sound like that! 909 00:40:16,483 --> 00:40:17,750 - Oh yes you do. 910 00:40:17,752 --> 00:40:19,818 - And then when she went into Jennifer Tilly, 911 00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:21,720 I sort of had to do a little bit of the doll, 912 00:40:21,722 --> 00:40:23,656 a little bit of the human Tiffany 913 00:40:23,658 --> 00:40:25,691 in Jennifer Tilly's voice. 914 00:40:25,693 --> 00:40:28,527 - All right, Fulvia, if that's what you want. 915 00:40:28,529 --> 00:40:30,362 - And then we wanted the difference 916 00:40:30,364 --> 00:40:32,430 between Glen and Glenda. 917 00:40:32,432 --> 00:40:34,500 Glen's a sort of more proper English. 918 00:40:34,502 --> 00:40:35,734 - I saw you on the telly. 919 00:40:35,736 --> 00:40:39,672 - And then Glenda's a bit more, kind of cockney. 920 00:40:39,674 --> 00:40:42,708 - That's my name. Don't you wear it out. 921 00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:46,412 - I especially love Billy Boyd's rendition 922 00:40:46,414 --> 00:40:48,479 of those characters. 923 00:40:48,481 --> 00:40:51,650 - Stop it, Mommy. You'll wrinkle me dress. 924 00:40:51,652 --> 00:40:54,720 - Stop it, Mommy. You'll wrinkle my dress. 925 00:40:54,722 --> 00:40:57,323 - I love him, and I love Glen and Glenda. 926 00:40:57,325 --> 00:40:58,557 But a feel an affection for them, 927 00:40:58,559 --> 00:40:59,725 because they're my children. 928 00:40:59,727 --> 00:41:01,860 You never stop loving your children. 929 00:41:01,862 --> 00:41:04,863 - Glen's cute, he would be in a punk rock bar. 930 00:41:04,865 --> 00:41:09,401 You know, he looks like a kind of boy I'd date. 931 00:41:09,403 --> 00:41:11,337 - I really love Glen. 932 00:41:11,339 --> 00:41:12,738 I think he's really funny. 933 00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:16,508 But I also find him poignant in a way. 934 00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:18,444 And when we were making the movie, 935 00:41:18,446 --> 00:41:19,378 there were times where we like, 936 00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:21,714 oh, this is kind of sad. 937 00:41:21,716 --> 00:41:23,849 You remember when Glen kills Chucky, 938 00:41:23,851 --> 00:41:26,285 and he chops him up and he's just devastated. 939 00:41:26,287 --> 00:41:27,653 And he's crying. 940 00:41:27,655 --> 00:41:29,822 And Jennifer Tilly is like comforting him. 941 00:41:29,824 --> 00:41:32,191 We're all kind of like getting a little like 942 00:41:32,193 --> 00:41:34,526 oh, this is sad. 943 00:41:34,528 --> 00:41:37,529 But people didn't respond correctly at first. 944 00:41:37,531 --> 00:41:39,631 - Glen/Glenda was the first trans kid, 945 00:41:39,633 --> 00:41:42,634 doll trans kid, that was ever portrayed in the movies. 946 00:41:42,636 --> 00:41:44,670 - It's maybe one of the greatest things 947 00:41:44,672 --> 00:41:48,440 about "Seed" I think, is this kind of transgender, 948 00:41:48,442 --> 00:41:49,641 you know, confused. 949 00:41:49,643 --> 00:41:51,677 - Sometimes I feel like a boy. 950 00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:53,545 Sometimes I feel like a girl. 951 00:41:53,547 --> 00:41:56,348 - And his parents don't help. 952 00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:59,785 It's a big, parent's please help. 953 00:41:59,787 --> 00:42:02,755 - In my mission to make the franchise gayer and gayer, 954 00:42:02,757 --> 00:42:06,358 we address this in a movie that maybe like 955 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,560 the audience wasn't ready for. 956 00:42:08,562 --> 00:42:10,496 - I don't think "Seed of Chucky" was rejected 957 00:42:10,498 --> 00:42:12,331 because of those themes. 958 00:42:12,333 --> 00:42:13,665 I think the film was embraced 959 00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:16,468 by that niche part of the audience. 960 00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:19,671 - Now, people are more interested in that. 961 00:42:19,673 --> 00:42:22,474 - Don, in a strange way through the Chucky movies 962 00:42:22,476 --> 00:42:24,511 he sort of educates. 963 00:42:24,513 --> 00:42:27,646 And makes people feel compassion for people 964 00:42:27,648 --> 00:42:29,448 that are not like themselves. 965 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:30,783 - Partly you're like, write what you know. 966 00:42:30,785 --> 00:42:32,484 But I also, there's just a part of me 967 00:42:32,486 --> 00:42:34,521 that it amused me. 968 00:42:34,523 --> 00:42:37,389 The idea of like kind of turning what had become 969 00:42:37,391 --> 00:42:39,725 a cultural icon on its head, 970 00:42:39,727 --> 00:42:42,561 and making the franchise be almost like an ambassador 971 00:42:42,563 --> 00:42:45,497 for like gay horror fans. 972 00:42:45,499 --> 00:42:47,833 - Gay people have always embraced horror films, 973 00:42:47,835 --> 00:42:50,836 because they've always been able to relate to the monster. 974 00:42:50,838 --> 00:42:54,640 The Frankenstein monster who's being persecuted 975 00:42:54,642 --> 00:42:56,644 and aren't getting a fair shake. 976 00:42:58,112 --> 00:43:01,713 That's probably why they gravitate towards horror films, 977 00:43:01,715 --> 00:43:04,750 'cause they see themselves in some of these characters. 978 00:43:04,752 --> 00:43:06,452 - I think gay people always liked horror movies, 979 00:43:06,454 --> 00:43:08,821 'cause they're drama queens. 980 00:43:08,823 --> 00:43:11,524 - I think perhaps it was rejected more for the fact 981 00:43:11,526 --> 00:43:13,526 that so much of it was played for laughs, 982 00:43:13,528 --> 00:43:14,760 and it was jokey and silly. 983 00:43:14,762 --> 00:43:16,695 - These films have really evolved 984 00:43:16,697 --> 00:43:19,499 from being a really frightening first film, 985 00:43:19,501 --> 00:43:21,266 to moving much more into the area 986 00:43:21,268 --> 00:43:22,768 of being horror comedies. 987 00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:25,304 - The film was a little too far over the top 988 00:43:25,306 --> 00:43:27,706 in terms of the humor and 989 00:43:27,708 --> 00:43:29,875 the outrageousness of the storyline. 990 00:43:29,877 --> 00:43:32,545 - This one sort of took it all one step further. 991 00:43:32,547 --> 00:43:34,880 I don't know, it's sort of spoofing on top of spoofing. 992 00:43:34,882 --> 00:43:38,217 - You can catch their movie in theaters next Halloween. 993 00:43:38,219 --> 00:43:38,886 Thank you, Chucky. 994 00:43:40,221 --> 00:43:42,589 - Fuck you very much. 995 00:43:42,591 --> 00:43:44,756 - I think that was a little too much for horror fans 996 00:43:44,758 --> 00:43:47,726 who just go to see a movie for blood and guts. 997 00:43:47,728 --> 00:43:50,796 Horror fans really want their scares and their gore. 998 00:43:50,798 --> 00:43:53,600 And even though the film definitely had its gore moments, 999 00:43:53,602 --> 00:43:55,801 some really grotesque death scenes. 1000 00:43:55,803 --> 00:43:58,337 - What is one of your favorite death scenes? 1001 00:43:58,339 --> 00:44:01,707 - Glen accidentally kills, uh... 1002 00:44:01,709 --> 00:44:03,175 - Are talking about with the acid? 1003 00:44:03,177 --> 00:44:04,209 - Yeah. 1004 00:44:04,211 --> 00:44:04,845 - John Waters. 1005 00:44:05,379 --> 00:44:09,381 - John Waters. I liked that, 'cause it was accidental. 1006 00:44:09,383 --> 00:44:10,517 He didn't mean it. 1007 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,484 - You know, he loved the Chucky movies, 1008 00:44:12,486 --> 00:44:14,753 and he always wanted to be a victim of Chucky. 1009 00:44:14,755 --> 00:44:16,355 You should ask him about that. 1010 00:44:16,357 --> 00:44:17,723 - Well, I wanted to, yes. 1011 00:44:17,725 --> 00:44:20,459 So I was thrilled to be injured 1012 00:44:20,461 --> 00:44:22,161 and thrown acid in my face, even better. 1013 00:44:28,637 --> 00:44:30,802 - But the first day I remembered, 1014 00:44:30,804 --> 00:44:33,506 the first take was Chucky was coming at me. 1015 00:44:33,508 --> 00:44:35,508 He moves, it's actually not like 1016 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:37,544 they put that in later and his mouth opens 1017 00:44:37,546 --> 00:44:38,410 and you hear what he says. 1018 00:44:38,412 --> 00:44:39,512 So he's coming at me, 1019 00:44:39,514 --> 00:44:41,413 and then they say cut. 1020 00:44:41,415 --> 00:44:42,681 And you know, he falls down. 1021 00:44:42,683 --> 00:44:44,249 Then all of a sudden he looks up at me 1022 00:44:44,251 --> 00:44:45,317 and goes, "Fuck you." 1023 00:44:45,319 --> 00:44:47,286 It was the puppeteers working him, 1024 00:44:47,288 --> 00:44:48,854 which really made me laugh. 1025 00:44:48,856 --> 00:44:52,525 - In "Seed of Chucky" Guy Louthan played Don Mancini. 1026 00:44:52,527 --> 00:44:54,693 So if you look at the credits in "Seed of Chucky," 1027 00:44:54,695 --> 00:44:57,362 it says, Don Mancini played by Guy Louthan, 1028 00:44:57,364 --> 00:44:58,797 who was the producer. 1029 00:44:58,799 --> 00:45:01,634 And I really felt like Don should play Guy Louthan. 1030 00:45:01,636 --> 00:45:03,435 Play the actual producer in the movie, 1031 00:45:03,437 --> 00:45:04,571 or play somebody else. 1032 00:45:04,573 --> 00:45:06,673 But he didn't want to do it. 1033 00:45:06,675 --> 00:45:09,642 - Just Tony playing himself. 1034 00:45:09,644 --> 00:45:12,244 And then the puppets getting revenge on the puppeteer. 1035 00:45:17,851 --> 00:45:21,621 - Yeah, I think the audience might have felt 1036 00:45:21,623 --> 00:45:23,690 that Don was being a little too clever, 1037 00:45:23,692 --> 00:45:26,725 and a little too in-jokey for their own taste. 1038 00:45:26,727 --> 00:45:29,696 - It would have been absolutely de rigueur 1039 00:45:29,698 --> 00:45:32,397 for the people in charge to say like, 1040 00:45:32,399 --> 00:45:34,299 "Okay, it's time to get some new blood 1041 00:45:34,301 --> 00:45:35,501 in here now, 1042 00:45:35,503 --> 00:45:37,004 'cause that didn't work out so well." 1043 00:45:38,506 --> 00:45:40,573 But David didn't he stayed loyal to me. 1044 00:45:40,575 --> 00:45:42,609 - He works so hard, he cares so much. 1045 00:45:42,611 --> 00:45:44,343 I've never worked with a director 1046 00:45:44,345 --> 00:45:46,546 that does not lose his cool. 1047 00:45:46,548 --> 00:45:48,780 - You're under a clock, and how are we gonna do this? 1048 00:45:48,782 --> 00:45:51,885 And it's kind of constantly traumatic. 1049 00:45:53,387 --> 00:45:55,854 But that's a bonding experience. 1050 00:45:55,856 --> 00:46:00,995 - So there is very much a wonderful, familial flavor to it. 1051 00:46:01,262 --> 00:46:02,562 - You get really close. 1052 00:46:02,564 --> 00:46:04,496 I mean, you're literally close. 1053 00:46:04,498 --> 00:46:06,532 You're sandwiched under a desk, 1054 00:46:06,534 --> 00:46:09,702 or working side-by-side, or on top of somebody. 1055 00:46:09,704 --> 00:46:12,437 And you have to really find a collective mindset 1056 00:46:12,439 --> 00:46:14,540 to make the character work. 1057 00:46:14,542 --> 00:46:16,576 I mean, if somebody's doing the eyes, 1058 00:46:16,578 --> 00:46:17,677 and someone else is doing the head, 1059 00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:19,646 the eyes have to lead the head movement, 1060 00:46:19,648 --> 00:46:21,246 And usually there's a blink in there, 1061 00:46:21,248 --> 00:46:22,414 and that's somebody else. 1062 00:46:22,416 --> 00:46:23,683 And if he's reacting to something, 1063 00:46:23,685 --> 00:46:26,418 a brow needs to go up while he's turning. 1064 00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:27,419 - What gives over here yet? 1065 00:46:27,421 --> 00:46:28,621 Are we through here yet? 1066 00:46:28,623 --> 00:46:30,188 Give us us a bit of the nasty thing, 1067 00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:31,023 then I want him to relax. 1068 00:46:31,025 --> 00:46:31,760 - Yeah. 1069 00:46:31,992 --> 00:46:34,594 - And then when he does the turn to his left 1070 00:46:34,596 --> 00:46:36,596 lead with the left brow 1071 00:46:36,598 --> 00:46:39,732 going up along with the turn. 1072 00:46:39,734 --> 00:46:41,668 - If each one of those is a different person 1073 00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:43,736 and you're trying to think as one character, 1074 00:46:43,738 --> 00:46:47,339 you either get in sync really quick, or it doesn't work. 1075 00:46:47,341 --> 00:46:48,508 - Oh shit. 1076 00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:37,690 - With every new rebirth 1077 00:47:37,692 --> 00:47:40,593 of a film Chucky's look changes a little bit. 1078 00:47:40,595 --> 00:47:44,429 In the first two films, Chucky was possessed 1079 00:47:44,431 --> 00:47:46,465 by Charles Lee Ray, I mean he still is. 1080 00:47:46,467 --> 00:47:48,634 But he was progressively turning human, 1081 00:47:48,636 --> 00:47:50,435 which is for one reason or another 1082 00:47:50,437 --> 00:47:52,538 not the case anymore. 1083 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:55,575 You know, there's a lot of Chucky purists as I say 1084 00:47:55,577 --> 00:47:57,744 that would say, "Oh, I hate the way Chucky looks. 1085 00:47:57,746 --> 00:47:59,846 I wish he looked like he did in the first film." 1086 00:47:59,848 --> 00:48:02,582 But if you follow the story that wouldn't make sense. 1087 00:48:02,584 --> 00:48:04,550 - I watched the doll, but not, of course, 1088 00:48:04,552 --> 00:48:05,884 I can't have a scene with the doll. 1089 00:48:05,886 --> 00:48:10,288 You know, it was great to be finally able to be there, 1090 00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:12,825 and be around and watch. 1091 00:48:12,827 --> 00:48:16,598 - Today, will be the first time I've ever seen Chucky 1092 00:48:17,998 --> 00:48:20,232 in the plastic version work. 1093 00:48:31,478 --> 00:48:33,579 - In "Curse of Chucky," it's like a refresh 1094 00:48:33,581 --> 00:48:35,648 even though it's continuing the same storyline, 1095 00:48:35,650 --> 00:48:37,617 you get the whole new cast of characters, 1096 00:48:37,619 --> 00:48:40,385 primarily Nica, who's played by Fiona Dourif, 1097 00:48:40,387 --> 00:48:41,621 Brad Dourif's daughter, 1098 00:48:41,623 --> 00:48:42,954 which is really fun and interesting. 1099 00:48:42,956 --> 00:48:45,658 - And we don't get to work with Brad all that often. 1100 00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:47,627 All his stuff is done ahead of time. 1101 00:48:47,629 --> 00:48:49,762 So he's kind of on the periphery. 1102 00:48:49,764 --> 00:48:52,865 Although, when we did "Curse of Chucky," 1103 00:48:52,867 --> 00:48:56,669 he was on set everyday that Fiona was working. 1104 00:48:56,671 --> 00:48:59,605 And he was there as like the proud dad. 1105 00:48:59,607 --> 00:49:02,474 - He's been like interjecting embarrassing stories 1106 00:49:02,476 --> 00:49:04,544 from my childhood. - Yeah. 1107 00:49:04,546 --> 00:49:05,277 - You know, median's with- - The press junket 1108 00:49:05,279 --> 00:49:06,244 will be fun. 1109 00:49:07,414 --> 00:49:08,748 - And we kind of bonded as parents. 1110 00:49:08,750 --> 00:49:12,384 Which is funny, 'cause then I go to work 1111 00:49:12,386 --> 00:49:13,653 and I listen to his voice coming out 1112 00:49:13,655 --> 00:49:15,454 of this doll while we're trying to stab Fiona. 1113 00:49:20,895 --> 00:49:24,564 - I like that Nica is a person who is in a wheelchair. 1114 00:49:24,566 --> 00:49:27,399 You don't see that depicted often in horror movies, 1115 00:49:27,401 --> 00:49:30,402 especially not as the primary hero. 1116 00:49:30,404 --> 00:49:32,638 - When I was cast in the first one, 1117 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,439 I was nervous that I wasn't gonna take it seriously. 1118 00:49:34,441 --> 00:49:36,441 Because on set, you know, 1119 00:49:36,443 --> 00:49:38,511 there's this moving, walking puppet, 1120 00:49:38,513 --> 00:49:40,580 and they play my dad's voice. 1121 00:49:40,582 --> 00:49:41,714 And I was like, "I think you guys 1122 00:49:41,716 --> 00:49:43,583 are just gonna have to say it, say the words." 1123 00:49:43,585 --> 00:49:45,651 Because he sounds like my dad. 1124 00:49:45,653 --> 00:49:48,621 - One quick, decisive motion. 1125 00:49:48,623 --> 00:49:50,523 'Cause he's like fallen and now he's looking right 1126 00:49:50,525 --> 00:49:51,791 back up at Nica. 1127 00:49:51,793 --> 00:49:54,426 - Don said no, he said that he wanted it 1128 00:49:54,428 --> 00:49:56,662 to be the recording. 1129 00:49:56,664 --> 00:49:58,631 And it actually really helped, 1130 00:49:58,633 --> 00:50:01,501 'cause there was something so unnerving about it. 1131 00:50:01,503 --> 00:50:04,537 - I'm gonna kill you slow. 1132 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,608 - But having my dad's voice was helpful, ultimately. 1133 00:50:08,610 --> 00:50:12,512 It was, really creepy. 1134 00:50:12,514 --> 00:50:13,480 - Thank you. 1135 00:50:15,282 --> 00:50:16,549 - Ugh. 1136 00:50:16,551 --> 00:50:18,418 - When we started off it was 30 years ago, and 1137 00:50:19,754 --> 00:50:24,322 Fiona was, you know, like a year old, or something. 1138 00:50:24,324 --> 00:50:25,725 - Here's five-year-old Fiona, 1139 00:50:25,727 --> 00:50:27,660 and there's 12-year-old Fiona. 1140 00:50:27,662 --> 00:50:28,728 And she doesn't remember any of this. 1141 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:30,462 But there were certain events 1142 00:50:30,464 --> 00:50:31,664 and screenings where I would see her. 1143 00:50:31,666 --> 00:50:34,667 And then she grew up, and she became an actress. 1144 00:50:34,669 --> 00:50:38,538 She came in on "Curse" and she read for 1145 00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:41,239 the role of the bitchy older sister. 1146 00:50:41,241 --> 00:50:42,440 And she was really good. 1147 00:50:42,442 --> 00:50:43,910 But I was looking at her and was like, 1148 00:50:43,912 --> 00:50:46,746 "I actually think she'd be really good as the lead." 1149 00:50:46,748 --> 00:50:49,615 And it's just like, wow that just would be 1150 00:50:49,617 --> 00:50:51,851 an odd thing to find the lead in our backyard. 1151 00:50:51,853 --> 00:50:53,819 You know the daughter of the guy who plays Chucky. 1152 00:50:53,821 --> 00:50:56,722 - Fans have been asking for really wanting 1153 00:50:56,724 --> 00:51:00,593 a return to the kind of straightforward, 1154 00:51:00,595 --> 00:51:03,428 legitimately scary tone that we had 1155 00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:04,564 in the first couple of movies. 1156 00:51:04,566 --> 00:51:06,499 - Well Don Mancini did a very clever thing. 1157 00:51:06,501 --> 00:51:09,602 Was when his budget got slashed so drastically 1158 00:51:09,604 --> 00:51:11,537 when it came to doing "Curse of Chucky," 1159 00:51:11,539 --> 00:51:13,506 and "Cult of Chucky." 1160 00:51:13,508 --> 00:51:15,508 Did what a lot of low budget filmmakers do 1161 00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:17,643 is set their movies in one location. 1162 00:51:17,645 --> 00:51:21,479 You're able to tell a very claustrophobic story. 1163 00:51:21,481 --> 00:51:24,316 - When you're filming usually on a limited budget 1164 00:51:24,318 --> 00:51:26,552 in one or two locations, 1165 00:51:26,554 --> 00:51:29,855 it often gives you bumpers. 1166 00:51:29,857 --> 00:51:33,358 You got to find it in there, you can't find it out there. 1167 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,627 You can't find it up there. 1168 00:51:34,629 --> 00:51:36,662 You got to find it right in here. 1169 00:51:36,664 --> 00:51:39,732 When we did "Insidious" it was all in one location. 1170 00:51:39,734 --> 00:51:42,802 Being in a house is especially claustrophobic. 1171 00:51:42,804 --> 00:51:45,771 You're in this space and what's going on is 1172 00:51:45,773 --> 00:51:48,708 it's walking down the hallway, it's in the window. 1173 00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:51,510 It's not on the streets, it's in your house. 1174 00:51:51,512 --> 00:51:54,580 But it's all here, it's all on top of you. 1175 00:51:54,582 --> 00:51:57,883 And when horror is on top of you, it's really scary. 1176 00:51:57,885 --> 00:52:00,586 - What happened to all horror it seemed like at first 1177 00:52:00,588 --> 00:52:03,789 it was scary, then it went so ugly, 1178 00:52:03,791 --> 00:52:05,558 like it got like torture porn. 1179 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,425 And then it got funny. 1180 00:52:07,427 --> 00:52:08,594 And then it got to be ridiculous 1181 00:52:08,596 --> 00:52:10,428 that it wasn't funny anymore. 1182 00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:12,497 - By Scream 3 it felt like they knew 1183 00:52:12,499 --> 00:52:14,466 they were in a horror movie. 1184 00:52:14,468 --> 00:52:16,669 It almost started to fell like a "Scary Movie" 1185 00:52:16,671 --> 00:52:17,503 which was coming out at the same time. 1186 00:52:19,373 --> 00:52:21,641 - Oh, shit. 1187 00:52:21,643 --> 00:52:23,743 - And then you had to go back to still being scary. 1188 00:52:23,745 --> 00:52:25,410 - That's one of the reasons why I think he went 1189 00:52:25,412 --> 00:52:28,313 for the more scare approach than, 1190 00:52:28,315 --> 00:52:29,615 you know, "Seed, and "Bride," 1191 00:52:29,617 --> 00:52:32,685 because he was working with less money. 1192 00:52:32,687 --> 00:52:35,655 It needed to be scary to really win people over. 1193 00:52:35,657 --> 00:52:37,923 - I mean we're trying to bring Chucky back 1194 00:52:37,925 --> 00:52:44,329 to being a very sinister and very sick, scary entity. 1195 00:52:47,334 --> 00:52:48,701 - This is the first time I've actually physically been 1196 00:52:48,703 --> 00:52:50,670 on a set with him and directed him. 1197 00:52:50,672 --> 00:52:53,539 Now, of course, it's more fun to bring his daughter 1198 00:52:53,541 --> 00:52:56,575 into the series as this particular movie's star. 1199 00:52:56,577 --> 00:53:00,513 - Don Mancini told me when he cast you he said, 1200 00:53:00,515 --> 00:53:02,882 "You know, the thing about Fiona is, 1201 00:53:02,884 --> 00:53:06,619 and the reason why is she actually looks like somebody 1202 00:53:06,621 --> 00:53:08,888 who this could really happen to. 1203 00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:11,256 - But then we had her come back in and read for Nica, 1204 00:53:11,258 --> 00:53:13,425 and she was really great. 1205 00:53:13,427 --> 00:53:14,794 - She had to audition quite a few times. 1206 00:53:14,796 --> 00:53:16,962 How many times did you have to audition for Chucky? 1207 00:53:16,964 --> 00:53:17,630 - Three times. 1208 00:53:17,632 --> 00:53:18,764 - Three times, then she had 1209 00:53:18,766 --> 00:53:20,533 to audition three times for that. 1210 00:53:20,535 --> 00:53:23,502 So she got it because she earned it. 1211 00:53:23,504 --> 00:53:26,505 - There's a new person coming in playing the lead. 1212 00:53:26,507 --> 00:53:28,607 How's this dynamic gonna shift? 1213 00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:29,742 And is she gonna be a team player? 1214 00:53:29,744 --> 00:53:31,610 She's more than a team player. 1215 00:53:31,612 --> 00:53:32,912 She's literally part of the group, 1216 00:53:32,914 --> 00:53:35,614 and you feel like she's been there since the beginning, 1217 00:53:35,616 --> 00:53:37,683 because she gets it, and she gets how it works. 1218 00:53:37,685 --> 00:53:40,485 And to help us get what we need, 1219 00:53:40,487 --> 00:53:42,588 because the puppet's eyes can really only turn 1220 00:53:42,590 --> 00:53:45,624 this far to the right, so she'll adjust. 1221 00:53:45,626 --> 00:53:47,993 And she just had it from the very beginning. 1222 00:53:47,995 --> 00:53:51,630 - Also, for whatever reason she has this incredible ability 1223 00:53:51,632 --> 00:53:54,734 to register trauma and pain. 1224 00:53:54,736 --> 00:53:56,635 - In order for the actors to truly believe they're 1225 00:53:56,637 --> 00:53:58,537 in danger, whatever it may be, 1226 00:53:58,539 --> 00:54:02,808 there's a level of bringing the audience in to 1227 00:54:02,810 --> 00:54:05,578 almost forget that they're in danger, 1228 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:07,646 or you're in danger in the next moment. 1229 00:54:07,648 --> 00:54:09,749 - I mean, fear is such an interesting emotion. 1230 00:54:09,751 --> 00:54:13,652 And the elements that add up to fear, real fear, 1231 00:54:13,654 --> 00:54:15,755 cross that line obviously, between being imaginary 1232 00:54:15,757 --> 00:54:17,690 and something really happening to you. 1233 00:54:17,692 --> 00:54:18,791 - I think it's an incredible genre. 1234 00:54:18,793 --> 00:54:21,493 He stakes are higher than in, you know, 1235 00:54:21,495 --> 00:54:23,662 like a typical drama or comedy. 1236 00:54:23,664 --> 00:54:25,396 The stakes are higher in a different way. 1237 00:54:25,398 --> 00:54:26,832 The world that you create is one 1238 00:54:26,834 --> 00:54:29,535 that you have to live in your mind in different way. 1239 00:54:29,537 --> 00:54:31,469 - Your body doesn't know you're pretending. 1240 00:54:31,471 --> 00:54:33,506 When you're frightened in a film, 1241 00:54:33,508 --> 00:54:35,775 or if you put yourself there, weird things happen. 1242 00:54:35,777 --> 00:54:38,544 I mean, you start sweating, your hands get cold. 1243 00:54:38,546 --> 00:54:40,311 Often, for me, it's always crying. 1244 00:54:40,313 --> 00:54:42,480 - But in crying scenes 1245 00:54:42,482 --> 00:54:44,717 there is like no veil to cover you. 1246 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,318 Even in real life, like, sometimes those cries 1247 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,554 that you just can't stop, 1248 00:54:48,556 --> 00:54:51,524 when they get captured on camera, 1249 00:54:51,526 --> 00:54:53,759 it's almost like a glimpse into your real soul. 1250 00:54:53,761 --> 00:54:55,460 - The real-er you are the better. 1251 00:54:55,462 --> 00:54:56,729 Bring your emotions, bringing your timing, 1252 00:54:56,731 --> 00:54:58,631 bring your realness to it, bring your truth. 1253 00:54:58,633 --> 00:55:01,534 - It almost sounds sadistic that I need to like, 1254 00:55:01,536 --> 00:55:04,637 I want to see you register this kind of pain 1255 00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,338 that I've seen you do in real life. 1256 00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:08,707 Because I'm your friend now, 1257 00:55:08,709 --> 00:55:10,576 and I saw you go through this horrible experience. 1258 00:55:10,578 --> 00:55:12,545 Let's use that in the movie. 1259 00:55:12,547 --> 00:55:14,580 - It has sometimes there's been moments 1260 00:55:14,582 --> 00:55:17,482 that have taken me into places I almost didn't want 1261 00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:19,652 to go, but I went anyway. 1262 00:55:19,654 --> 00:55:21,720 Because there's that little part of you going, 1263 00:55:21,722 --> 00:55:24,322 this is important, this is happening. 1264 00:55:24,324 --> 00:55:26,324 Go, go, go, go, go. 1265 00:55:26,326 --> 00:55:28,627 And I won't censor myself. 1266 00:55:28,629 --> 00:55:31,764 - Which I think makes a great actor I think when you do that 1267 00:55:31,766 --> 00:55:34,600 you're communicating with the people who are watching. 1268 00:55:34,602 --> 00:55:36,635 - Stuff that you experience in real life, 1269 00:55:36,637 --> 00:55:38,771 you go, we'll we can use that as fodder in the next film. 1270 00:55:38,773 --> 00:55:40,739 And I want to take the character that you play 1271 00:55:40,741 --> 00:55:42,675 in the Chucky franchise to that place 1272 00:55:42,677 --> 00:55:44,543 that I know that you're able to go. 1273 00:55:44,545 --> 00:55:46,047 But people haven't seen you go there before. 1274 00:55:48,583 --> 00:55:51,517 She's a great friend, 1275 00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:54,320 and just a really inspiring collaborator. 1276 00:56:54,815 --> 00:56:58,550 - When you work on a Chucky film you have the task 1277 00:56:58,552 --> 00:57:00,653 of doing the same thing over and over again 1278 00:57:00,655 --> 00:57:02,388 until the doll does what he's supposed 1279 00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:03,589 to do perfectly right. 1280 00:57:03,591 --> 00:57:05,724 Simple things take awhile. 1281 00:57:05,726 --> 00:57:08,260 - If people had more of an idea of what went 1282 00:57:08,262 --> 00:57:11,630 into animating a movie, 1283 00:57:11,632 --> 00:57:14,432 or for that matter, animating Chucky. 1284 00:57:14,434 --> 00:57:15,701 I think people would have 1285 00:57:15,703 --> 00:57:19,505 a much bigger reverence for those kind of movies. 1286 00:57:19,507 --> 00:57:22,574 Because it's this whole other level of complication. 1287 00:57:22,576 --> 00:57:25,544 - It's not just us doing the animatronic puppet 1288 00:57:25,546 --> 00:57:27,346 and making it come alive, and everything works. 1289 00:57:27,348 --> 00:57:28,647 We have to work with Fiona, 1290 00:57:28,649 --> 00:57:30,849 and Don has to work with us to find an angle 1291 00:57:30,851 --> 00:57:33,719 that makes the limitations of the puppeteers, 1292 00:57:33,721 --> 00:57:37,389 or the fact that he can't do certain things work. 1293 00:57:37,391 --> 00:57:39,858 So we really have to connect, 1294 00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:43,562 and we have to work as a team to just get a shot. 1295 00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:56,608 - You have to focus on the moving, the moving puppet, 1296 00:57:56,610 --> 00:57:59,611 and block out all of the people around him 1297 00:57:59,613 --> 00:58:02,448 that are having like rods up his ass and stuff. 1298 00:58:02,450 --> 00:58:03,351 - Oh, dear! 1299 00:58:05,485 --> 00:58:06,518 - You don't get a chance to be like, 1300 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,586 "Well, I'll do one this way, 1301 00:58:07,588 --> 00:58:08,721 and then I'll do one that way." 1302 00:58:08,723 --> 00:58:12,624 Because once Chucky does the right thing 1303 00:58:12,626 --> 00:58:14,326 and we've already spent 30 minutes on it, 1304 00:58:14,328 --> 00:58:15,561 you know we gotta move on. 1305 00:58:15,563 --> 00:58:17,463 - When you have a character that's not a human being 1306 00:58:17,465 --> 00:58:18,464 that you can't just say, "Oh now, 1307 00:58:18,466 --> 00:58:20,632 let's try it over here." 1308 00:58:20,634 --> 00:58:23,535 When you have to plan that stuff out that specifically, 1309 00:58:23,537 --> 00:58:25,304 just so you know where he's gonna be looking, 1310 00:58:25,306 --> 00:58:26,805 what his action is gonna be, 1311 00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:29,775 'cause it may take several to get that action done. 1312 00:58:29,777 --> 00:58:32,745 - So I think if it was any other sort of series, 1313 00:58:32,747 --> 00:58:34,513 I think there would be a bit more of a disconnect 1314 00:58:34,515 --> 00:58:36,782 between all of the people involved. 1315 00:58:36,784 --> 00:58:39,251 Because you'd all have your little piece of the puzzle, 1316 00:58:39,253 --> 00:58:40,686 and it would all plug in. 1317 00:58:40,688 --> 00:58:43,555 Here, we all have to plug in 1318 00:58:43,557 --> 00:58:45,891 just to get each shot and make it work. 1319 00:58:45,893 --> 00:58:52,566 - You're the last one standing, so to speak. 1320 00:58:54,535 --> 00:58:56,635 - Yeah, when you're acting with Chucky, Chucky's a figure 1321 00:58:56,637 --> 00:58:59,506 that is walking, and talking and moving, 1322 00:58:59,508 --> 00:59:02,574 which it makes it easier than acting to an X. 1323 00:59:02,576 --> 00:59:05,778 - So you never actually killed Andy Barclay, did you? 1324 00:59:05,780 --> 00:59:08,414 - I was really excited and happy when I got 1325 00:59:08,416 --> 00:59:09,915 the call from Don for "Curse." 1326 00:59:09,917 --> 00:59:13,585 He told me, "I'm trying to write something in for you. 1327 00:59:13,587 --> 00:59:15,522 I got to get it approved by the studio. 1328 00:59:15,524 --> 00:59:17,623 I don't want you to get your hopes up." 1329 00:59:17,625 --> 00:59:20,626 - It was like a test to see how that would go. 1330 00:59:20,628 --> 00:59:21,528 - And so I read it, and I loved the scene 1331 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:23,530 that he had for Andy. 1332 00:59:23,532 --> 00:59:24,663 I thought it was fun. 1333 00:59:24,665 --> 00:59:26,665 I got to get a little bit of revenge 1334 00:59:26,667 --> 00:59:28,200 and shoot him with a shotgun. 1335 00:59:29,103 --> 00:59:31,870 - The fan response was really positive. 1336 00:59:31,872 --> 00:59:33,605 - And they were really excited to see me in that scene. 1337 00:59:33,607 --> 00:59:35,574 - And he did really well. 1338 00:59:35,576 --> 00:59:38,112 It's a nice group of all of us players 1339 00:59:39,246 --> 00:59:40,547 that have worked together on these. 1340 00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:42,714 - You know one of the reasons I like to keep 1341 00:59:42,716 --> 00:59:44,551 a lot of the same people around, 1342 00:59:44,553 --> 00:59:48,487 because you know you work well together. 1343 00:59:48,489 --> 00:59:49,655 - Well, it was like having a reparatory group. 1344 00:59:49,657 --> 00:59:51,690 You don't even have to talk barely. 1345 00:59:51,692 --> 00:59:53,792 You're one step ahead 'cause you know how everybody thinks, 1346 00:59:53,794 --> 00:59:55,562 and what's their strong points, their weak points. 1347 00:59:55,564 --> 00:59:57,564 - It because a shorthand. 1348 00:59:57,566 --> 01:00:00,234 You realize when you're filming movies 1349 01:00:01,368 --> 01:00:06,472 time is your best friend and your worst enemy. 1350 01:00:06,474 --> 01:00:09,441 Everything's a shot, I'm fighting the sun, 1351 01:00:09,443 --> 01:00:10,843 I'm fighting the light. 1352 01:00:10,845 --> 01:00:12,512 You're always fighting something in the movies. 1353 01:00:12,514 --> 01:00:14,646 - And you know you're gonna be working 1354 01:00:14,648 --> 01:00:17,416 these long hours under intense conditions. 1355 01:00:17,418 --> 01:00:18,484 - There's a book, "Good to Great" 1356 01:00:18,486 --> 01:00:20,686 and it says put good people on the bus with you, 1357 01:00:20,688 --> 01:00:22,788 so no matter what direction you go in, 1358 01:00:22,790 --> 01:00:25,657 that you know your team of people on that bus, 1359 01:00:25,659 --> 01:00:27,493 that they're just down ass people. 1360 01:00:27,495 --> 01:00:29,228 - You're forced to be in environment 1361 01:00:29,230 --> 01:00:30,629 with the same people. 1362 01:00:30,631 --> 01:00:34,733 And you really have no other choice but to make these bonds. 1363 01:00:34,735 --> 01:00:36,668 - There's something about creating something, 1364 01:00:36,670 --> 01:00:38,538 a piece of art with somebody, 1365 01:00:38,540 --> 01:00:41,640 that somehow bonds you in a really cool way. 1366 01:00:41,642 --> 01:00:44,577 - But when the circumstances are particularly challenging 1367 01:00:44,579 --> 01:00:47,614 then you kind of bond even more like we did on "Cult." 1368 01:00:47,616 --> 01:00:50,482 You know, we were shooting in blizzards, 1369 01:00:50,484 --> 01:00:52,684 in 40 degree below temperatures. 1370 01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:59,059 - Here we go, and action. 1371 01:01:03,565 --> 01:01:06,431 And he goes back to being dead, very good. 1372 01:01:06,433 --> 01:01:07,733 And cut! 1373 01:01:07,735 --> 01:01:11,436 - We were in Winnipeg in the winter. 1374 01:01:11,438 --> 01:01:13,472 It was like negative 42 when we arrived, 1375 01:01:13,474 --> 01:01:14,740 and it didn't even matter. 1376 01:01:14,742 --> 01:01:16,775 - We were literally joined at the hip 1377 01:01:16,777 --> 01:01:19,579 through the whole production process. 1378 01:01:19,581 --> 01:01:22,615 Because there isn't a day where Chucky doesn't work. 1379 01:01:22,617 --> 01:01:23,815 But we know each other and there's a shorthand, 1380 01:01:23,817 --> 01:01:26,418 and we compliment each other really well. 1381 01:01:26,420 --> 01:01:29,558 Everything's great. Look! 1382 01:01:32,661 --> 01:01:35,394 - You're basically climbing mountain together. 1383 01:01:35,396 --> 01:01:37,429 And you have to have each other's back. 1384 01:01:37,431 --> 01:01:38,997 And you know you can't do it alone. 1385 01:01:38,999 --> 01:01:42,602 And if you are successful in scaling the mountain together, 1386 01:01:42,604 --> 01:01:44,571 you sort of like, oh my god, we're awesome together. 1387 01:01:44,573 --> 01:01:45,470 - Drill. 1388 01:01:47,775 --> 01:01:50,677 - Don's gotten so confident in his story telling 1389 01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:52,444 he's starting to experiment now, 1390 01:01:52,446 --> 01:01:53,712 with the visual side of it a lot more. 1391 01:01:53,714 --> 01:01:56,415 - It's very deliberately surreal, 1392 01:01:56,417 --> 01:01:57,783 and kind of trippy. 1393 01:01:57,785 --> 01:02:00,653 Because you're dealing with people who are insane. 1394 01:02:00,655 --> 01:02:02,754 - Four years after "Curse" continuing 1395 01:02:02,756 --> 01:02:04,856 that storyline with Nica in a mental institute, 1396 01:02:04,858 --> 01:02:06,725 and you got a fun cast of characters there 1397 01:02:06,727 --> 01:02:08,460 with the people inside of it. 1398 01:02:08,462 --> 01:02:11,496 - They have schizophrenia, or whatever it is. 1399 01:02:11,498 --> 01:02:14,433 You have people on drugs. 1400 01:02:14,435 --> 01:02:16,435 You have people getting hypnotized. 1401 01:02:16,437 --> 01:02:18,571 You have dream sequences. 1402 01:02:18,573 --> 01:02:20,372 - It plays a lot with roles. 1403 01:02:20,374 --> 01:02:21,473 So it's like role playing, 1404 01:02:21,475 --> 01:02:23,643 and who's crazy, and who's not crazy? 1405 01:02:23,645 --> 01:02:25,744 - Part of what we wanted to do was like 1406 01:02:25,746 --> 01:02:29,448 a new genre, a new feel, a new aesthetic. 1407 01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:30,816 - It's all very monochromatic, 1408 01:02:30,818 --> 01:02:33,385 and then Chucky walks in and he's all bright stripes, 1409 01:02:33,387 --> 01:02:34,554 and he stands out. 1410 01:02:34,556 --> 01:02:37,489 - So the red hair and blood really pops. 1411 01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:45,831 - The "Child's Play" franchise is a little unusual 1412 01:02:45,833 --> 01:02:48,668 in horror franchises, that I think it's kind of 1413 01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:51,704 a gateway drug to horror for a lot of children. 1414 01:02:51,706 --> 01:02:54,373 For obvious reasons, 'cause it's a doll. 1415 01:02:54,375 --> 01:02:55,608 And so they key in to that. 1416 01:02:55,610 --> 01:02:57,610 But so Andy was their hero, 1417 01:02:57,612 --> 01:02:59,011 and so they've all grown up. 1418 01:02:59,013 --> 01:03:03,183 And now, they're vaguely disaffected 20 somethings. 1419 01:03:04,218 --> 01:03:05,917 They're like, "Andy's got to come back." 1420 01:03:05,919 --> 01:03:09,622 So the challenge was to bring Andy back into the story, 1421 01:03:09,624 --> 01:03:11,658 but in a way that would surprise them. 1422 01:03:11,660 --> 01:03:12,993 - And I think it was really fun, 1423 01:03:14,428 --> 01:03:16,995 as an actor, to reprise a role, 1424 01:03:16,997 --> 01:03:20,700 that has been a topic in my life since I was six-years-old. 1425 01:03:20,702 --> 01:03:23,603 And now, I get to put some life into what Andy 1426 01:03:23,605 --> 01:03:25,772 would be like had he survived that childhood. 1427 01:03:25,774 --> 01:03:28,974 - And you would have aspects of PTSD. 1428 01:03:28,976 --> 01:03:32,512 And how would that manifest in your life as a 30-something? 1429 01:03:32,514 --> 01:03:33,947 - He has clearly struggled with 1430 01:03:35,082 --> 01:03:37,717 the effects that Chucky has had on his life, 1431 01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:41,420 and his inability to move past it 1432 01:03:41,422 --> 01:03:42,722 with others in a relationship. 1433 01:03:42,724 --> 01:03:44,624 And probably even within himself. 1434 01:03:44,626 --> 01:03:47,893 So the way we left it from "Curse of Chucky" 1435 01:03:47,895 --> 01:03:51,830 I think Andy torturing this doll for the past four years 1436 01:03:51,832 --> 01:03:54,199 is the perfect route that Andy should have gone. 1437 01:03:58,005 --> 01:04:00,372 - This was the first time that I had ever done something 1438 01:04:00,374 --> 01:04:01,641 that was written for me. 1439 01:04:01,643 --> 01:04:06,648 I just had way more confidence. 1440 01:04:06,715 --> 01:04:08,715 I was like way more relaxed. 1441 01:04:08,717 --> 01:04:11,483 It just made it so much more fun. 1442 01:04:11,485 --> 01:04:13,485 - In the "Cult of Chucky" 1443 01:04:13,487 --> 01:04:15,320 there was an actor that I slit his throat 1444 01:04:15,322 --> 01:04:16,556 in "Curse of Chucky". 1445 01:04:16,558 --> 01:04:17,690 And he was playing a totally 1446 01:04:17,692 --> 01:04:19,592 different character, Adam Hurtig. 1447 01:04:19,594 --> 01:04:21,493 - Well, "Curse of Chucky" was kind of 1448 01:04:21,495 --> 01:04:24,731 a formative film experience for me. 1449 01:04:24,733 --> 01:04:27,500 I was super intimated to not only work with Don, 1450 01:04:27,502 --> 01:04:28,768 but to work with Fiona, as well. 1451 01:04:28,770 --> 01:04:32,739 Not only did I come in later on during 1452 01:04:32,741 --> 01:04:35,907 the filming process, but I also have to die on camera. 1453 01:04:35,909 --> 01:04:38,745 And Jennifer Tilly had to kill me. So no pressure. 1454 01:04:38,747 --> 01:04:41,547 - And when we went to Toronto, Don goes, 1455 01:04:41,549 --> 01:04:43,549 "Jennifer this actor," 'cause I didn't met him on the set, 1456 01:04:43,551 --> 01:04:44,617 'cause I didn't have any scenes with him. 1457 01:04:44,619 --> 01:04:46,351 He goes, "This actor that's in the Q&A, 1458 01:04:46,353 --> 01:04:47,252 you worked with him before." 1459 01:04:47,254 --> 01:04:47,856 I go, "No, I didn't." 1460 01:04:48,288 --> 01:04:50,157 - How is it to be forgotten by Jennifer Tilly? 1461 01:04:52,426 --> 01:04:54,861 Humbling. Whew. 1462 01:04:54,863 --> 01:04:57,530 - He goes, "Yes, in 'Curse of Chucky' you slit his throat." 1463 01:04:57,532 --> 01:04:58,600 - Action. 1464 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,200 And fall. 1465 01:05:04,238 --> 01:05:06,371 - Aw. 1466 01:05:06,373 --> 01:05:08,541 - But it was fun to see her face 1467 01:05:08,543 --> 01:05:10,510 when she actually did remember me. 1468 01:05:10,512 --> 01:05:12,578 - And I do remember I slit his throat. 1469 01:05:12,580 --> 01:05:13,813 And I remember he was such a good sport. 1470 01:05:13,815 --> 01:05:16,448 - Oh, wait. 1471 01:05:16,450 --> 01:05:19,484 Oh! And it was this nice, kind of like, 1472 01:05:19,486 --> 01:05:22,421 "Yeah, I'm back." 1473 01:05:22,423 --> 01:05:23,623 - Wait a minute, there's two of them? 1474 01:05:23,625 --> 01:05:26,425 - It was this cool idea that Don was having me 1475 01:05:26,427 --> 01:05:27,492 come back as a different character. 1476 01:05:27,494 --> 01:05:28,395 - You're sick. 1477 01:05:29,697 --> 01:05:31,398 And not in the fun way like me. 1478 01:05:32,634 --> 01:05:34,600 - And I got a chance to really riff with Don 1479 01:05:34,602 --> 01:05:36,468 to see what it was like to create 1480 01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:38,437 this character with multiple personas. 1481 01:05:38,439 --> 01:05:39,841 - You're Mark Zuckerberg, now. 1482 01:05:40,374 --> 01:05:41,074 - Yeah. 1483 01:05:42,476 --> 01:05:43,643 - Okay. 1484 01:05:43,645 --> 01:05:44,877 - I just think that's so interesting 1485 01:05:44,879 --> 01:05:47,580 that Don just rehires people to play another character. 1486 01:05:47,582 --> 01:05:48,648 It's like, "Oh you were the cop in the last one, 1487 01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:50,516 but you can be this psycho in this one. 1488 01:05:50,518 --> 01:05:51,717 No one's gonna notice." 1489 01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:53,719 - Just kind of makes you wonder who's next. 1490 01:05:53,721 --> 01:05:56,421 - It was fun to come back for "Cult." 1491 01:05:56,423 --> 01:05:57,389 Don actually asked me to come back 1492 01:05:57,391 --> 01:05:58,891 for "Curse" at one point. 1493 01:05:58,893 --> 01:06:00,593 Though I think the character there he was considering 1494 01:06:00,595 --> 01:06:02,595 having me do was Fiona's mom. 1495 01:06:02,597 --> 01:06:03,763 And I'm glad it didn't work out, 1496 01:06:03,765 --> 01:06:05,765 because I'm really happy to have come back as Kyle. 1497 01:06:05,767 --> 01:06:07,700 It's a character that I am fond of. 1498 01:06:07,702 --> 01:06:09,468 That part of my life is something 1499 01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:10,469 I'm super nostalgic about. 1500 01:06:10,471 --> 01:06:12,437 - Andy sent me. 1501 01:06:12,439 --> 01:06:13,539 We're gonna have some fun. 1502 01:06:13,541 --> 01:06:14,640 - I like "Cult" a lot. 1503 01:06:14,642 --> 01:06:16,475 I think "Cult" is shot beautifully. 1504 01:06:16,477 --> 01:06:17,677 I'm a fan to the multiple Chuckys. 1505 01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:18,878 - And I know that that was an idea 1506 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,747 that Don had wanted to do way back with "Child's Play 3." 1507 01:06:21,749 --> 01:06:24,550 So it's great to see that finally realized, 1508 01:06:24,552 --> 01:06:25,718 and I think it came off great. 1509 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,419 - I think they're all cute. 1510 01:06:27,421 --> 01:06:28,688 Like I love scene where all three 1511 01:06:28,690 --> 01:06:29,622 of the Chuckys are talking to each other. 1512 01:06:29,624 --> 01:06:31,389 And you have the one armed Chucky 1513 01:06:31,391 --> 01:06:33,391 that's sort of a bad ass, 1514 01:06:33,393 --> 01:06:34,560 and you have the innocent Chucky. 1515 01:06:34,562 --> 01:06:37,229 I just think that he's really, really cute. 1516 01:06:37,231 --> 01:06:38,698 - I never felt so alive! 1517 01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:39,699 - Yeah, well, you've been alive 1518 01:06:39,701 --> 01:06:42,969 for like two minutes. 1519 01:06:42,971 --> 01:06:44,670 - I think it's important to keep him practical. 1520 01:06:44,672 --> 01:06:45,705 I wish there was more money for it, 1521 01:06:45,707 --> 01:06:47,439 but I'm glad it's still practical. 1522 01:06:47,441 --> 01:06:49,474 - Yeah, we can't do CGI with Chucky, 1523 01:06:49,476 --> 01:06:53,779 because it would take away that pure element. 1524 01:06:53,781 --> 01:06:56,516 - Fans have made a point of saying they don't want 1525 01:06:56,518 --> 01:06:58,483 to see CGI with Chucky. 1526 01:06:58,485 --> 01:07:00,720 They really, really want a doll 1527 01:07:00,722 --> 01:07:02,855 that doesn't move in perfect form. 1528 01:07:02,857 --> 01:07:06,792 As brilliant as Tony Gardner is in bringing him to life, 1529 01:07:06,794 --> 01:07:10,730 there is still an element that it's a doll, 1530 01:07:10,732 --> 01:07:13,833 and the movements are different than human movements. 1531 01:07:13,835 --> 01:07:16,569 And I think in there is what makes it frightening. 1532 01:07:16,571 --> 01:07:20,540 I think if it was perfect fluid form, 1533 01:07:20,542 --> 01:07:22,474 I don't think it would be as frightening. 1534 01:07:22,476 --> 01:07:25,443 - When they just make it digital it loses, 1535 01:07:25,445 --> 01:07:27,680 you know, definitely loses something. 1536 01:07:27,682 --> 01:07:30,683 - The eye and the brain could make that distinction 1537 01:07:30,685 --> 01:07:34,520 between computer generated and rubber. 1538 01:07:34,522 --> 01:07:36,522 And rubber's just, it's just so much more effective 1539 01:07:36,524 --> 01:07:38,558 most of the time. 1540 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,593 - When we're lucky enough to have practical effects, 1541 01:07:40,595 --> 01:07:43,863 it's a win-win for everybody, for the actor. 1542 01:07:43,865 --> 01:07:46,632 - Especially when the actors are interacting with it. 1543 01:07:46,634 --> 01:07:48,668 - You're living through something 1544 01:07:48,670 --> 01:07:50,770 which your body is experiencing. 1545 01:07:50,772 --> 01:07:54,472 And for the viewer, they're living through 1546 01:07:54,474 --> 01:07:55,575 what you're living through, 1547 01:07:55,577 --> 01:07:56,642 because you're living through it, 1548 01:07:56,644 --> 01:07:58,611 and you're presenting it to them. 1549 01:07:58,613 --> 01:08:00,445 - I think it was such an incredible experience 1550 01:08:00,447 --> 01:08:02,548 to use practical effects. 1551 01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:05,718 In "Bad Hair," the hair wraps around my ankle. 1552 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,588 It pulls you and then when I came in, 1553 01:08:08,590 --> 01:08:09,689 I had to like cut the hair, 1554 01:08:09,691 --> 01:08:11,624 and all this blood shoots out. 1555 01:08:11,626 --> 01:08:12,792 - People just act differently 1556 01:08:12,794 --> 01:08:15,427 when they have blood gushing everywhere. 1557 01:08:15,429 --> 01:08:16,529 And they can actually see it, 1558 01:08:16,531 --> 01:08:17,730 and it's actually something tangible. 1559 01:08:17,732 --> 01:08:19,665 - It heightened the performance 1560 01:08:19,667 --> 01:08:22,535 because I had this contraption around me. 1561 01:08:22,537 --> 01:08:24,737 I had this blood that's about to spew all over. 1562 01:08:24,739 --> 01:08:28,440 - It enhances the whole reality of the film. 1563 01:08:28,442 --> 01:08:30,576 It's not pretend, it's real. 1564 01:08:30,578 --> 01:08:32,410 - All of us got pulled into this world 1565 01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,647 in a very real and grounded way, 1566 01:08:34,649 --> 01:08:38,216 that we may not have been able to be pulled into, 1567 01:08:38,218 --> 01:08:39,819 had it all been VFX. 1568 01:08:39,821 --> 01:08:43,623 - Your imagination doesn't have to work nearly as hard 1569 01:08:43,625 --> 01:08:45,825 with a killer doll than with a ping pong ball. 1570 01:08:45,827 --> 01:08:47,727 - It's hard when you're just in front of a green screen 1571 01:08:47,729 --> 01:08:49,695 and it's like, "Now imagine that you're guts 1572 01:08:49,697 --> 01:08:51,631 are being torn out of your body." 1573 01:08:51,633 --> 01:08:52,698 Cool, how do I imagine that? 1574 01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:53,733 But if you see yourself in it, 1575 01:08:53,735 --> 01:08:55,701 you almost get that feeling already. 1576 01:08:55,703 --> 01:08:57,637 - When you put all of that together 1577 01:08:57,639 --> 01:08:59,538 it's like magic, you get to play. 1578 01:08:59,540 --> 01:09:01,607 - And there's something so powerful about that, 1579 01:09:01,609 --> 01:09:03,542 because you're not imagining something, 1580 01:09:03,544 --> 01:09:06,545 you are really experiencing something together. 1581 01:09:06,547 --> 01:09:10,516 - So I think that Chucky is physical, 1582 01:09:10,518 --> 01:09:12,417 it really, really helps the world. 1583 01:09:12,419 --> 01:09:13,753 - Chucky's a doll. 1584 01:09:13,755 --> 01:09:15,554 So that when he walks around and you see it, 1585 01:09:15,556 --> 01:09:17,455 it looks like Chucky. You know, 1586 01:09:17,457 --> 01:09:19,558 it looks like the real thing. 1587 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,761 So you watch the scene and the scene is real. 1588 01:09:21,763 --> 01:09:23,596 - He feels so real in those movies, 1589 01:09:23,598 --> 01:09:24,764 because it was all practical, 1590 01:09:24,766 --> 01:09:26,632 and you actually see the light bouncing off. 1591 01:09:26,634 --> 01:09:28,701 And it feels, you can tell the difference 1592 01:09:28,703 --> 01:09:31,671 between the CG Yoda, and the Yoda 1593 01:09:31,673 --> 01:09:33,539 from "Empire Strikes Back." 1594 01:09:33,541 --> 01:09:34,874 - You got to buy into it. 1595 01:09:34,876 --> 01:09:37,643 And when it's a practical thing that looks real, 1596 01:09:37,645 --> 01:09:39,444 that helps you buy into it. 1597 01:09:39,446 --> 01:09:40,680 - I think at least having something there 1598 01:09:40,682 --> 01:09:43,783 as sort of a marker, really, really helps 1599 01:09:43,785 --> 01:09:46,418 the acting process, just from an actor's standpoint. 1600 01:09:46,420 --> 01:09:47,419 - Yeah. 1601 01:09:47,421 --> 01:09:48,854 - And it saves money. 1602 01:09:48,856 --> 01:09:53,458 - I find that it's financially, it's a saving grace. 1603 01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:54,660 - When we did the last two films 1604 01:09:54,662 --> 01:09:56,394 that were direct to video, 1605 01:09:56,396 --> 01:09:58,496 the budget was substantially lower. 1606 01:09:58,498 --> 01:10:00,099 The budget for the whole movie 1607 01:10:00,101 --> 01:10:01,734 was Kevin Yagher's budget for building 1608 01:10:01,736 --> 01:10:03,536 the puppets for the first film. 1609 01:10:03,538 --> 01:10:04,837 - They want it to be more. 1610 01:10:04,839 --> 01:10:06,806 They want it to be cheaper and have bigger stars, 1611 01:10:06,808 --> 01:10:09,307 and cost more and music, and everything. 1612 01:10:09,309 --> 01:10:10,543 It's always like that. 1613 01:10:10,545 --> 01:10:12,812 - And there were only three puppeteers allowed 1614 01:10:12,814 --> 01:10:15,548 to go up from the United States, including myself. 1615 01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:17,550 So I couldn't be behind the monitor watching, 1616 01:10:17,552 --> 01:10:19,552 I had to focus on performance, as well. 1617 01:10:19,554 --> 01:10:21,721 But we also lucked into some local people 1618 01:10:21,723 --> 01:10:23,756 that really rose to the occasion, 1619 01:10:23,758 --> 01:10:26,491 and were really great, and did an amazing job. 1620 01:10:26,493 --> 01:10:27,526 It would have been nice to have had time 1621 01:10:27,528 --> 01:10:30,228 to rehearse prior to shooting. 1622 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:34,399 But we dove in and we were rehearsing 1623 01:10:34,401 --> 01:10:35,568 while we were shooting. 1624 01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:37,670 And given the resources and the time, 1625 01:10:37,672 --> 01:10:40,307 I think everybody did a really amazing job. 1626 01:11:22,016 --> 01:11:24,750 - And then the challenge was to bring all 1627 01:11:24,752 --> 01:11:28,621 of these characters from different aspects of the franchise, 1628 01:11:28,623 --> 01:11:30,591 and put them on collision courses, 1629 01:11:31,092 --> 01:11:33,626 and see what happens. 1630 01:11:33,628 --> 01:11:34,794 - That's the thing about the franchise is, 1631 01:11:34,796 --> 01:11:37,530 it's able to introduce brand new elements, 1632 01:11:37,532 --> 01:11:40,666 and then weave them in seamlessly. 1633 01:11:40,668 --> 01:11:42,568 And then they're just a part of the franchise. 1634 01:11:42,570 --> 01:11:45,871 So by the time you see in "Cult of Chucky" Nica 1635 01:11:45,873 --> 01:11:49,440 talking to Tiffany, it's like, oh yeah that makes sense. 1636 01:11:49,442 --> 01:11:51,577 - What happens when Andy Barclay 1637 01:11:51,579 --> 01:11:54,547 and Nica Pierce come together? 1638 01:11:54,549 --> 01:11:57,482 - And Fiona is such a great actress, first of all. 1639 01:11:57,484 --> 01:11:59,652 She is inspiringly good. 1640 01:11:59,654 --> 01:12:01,654 I really wish that we got to do more together 1641 01:12:01,656 --> 01:12:03,556 than the one scene that we had. 1642 01:12:03,558 --> 01:12:05,390 But the one scene that we had was like 1643 01:12:05,392 --> 01:12:06,725 the highlight of it for me. 1644 01:12:06,727 --> 01:12:09,595 Because I was really looking forward to working with her. 1645 01:12:09,597 --> 01:12:11,398 - I just think it's more 1646 01:12:13,134 --> 01:12:16,434 interesting to play the "bad guy". 1647 01:12:16,436 --> 01:12:17,435 - I'm done. 1648 01:12:17,437 --> 01:12:18,571 - You're done? 1649 01:12:18,573 --> 01:12:19,672 Yeah, that's interesting. - I'm done. 1650 01:12:19,674 --> 01:12:21,472 I'm not doing them anymore. 1651 01:12:21,474 --> 01:12:23,609 - I don't want to play the victim anymore. 1652 01:12:23,611 --> 01:12:25,343 - You guys should just reverse. 1653 01:12:25,345 --> 01:12:26,178 - We are. - We are. 1654 01:12:26,180 --> 01:12:28,848 We are. 1655 01:12:33,821 --> 01:12:37,523 - You have Tiffany, who's inhabiting Jennifer Tilly's body. 1656 01:12:37,525 --> 01:12:40,326 You have Fiona, which is really genius, 1657 01:12:40,328 --> 01:12:41,827 inhabiting Chucky's body, 1658 01:12:41,829 --> 01:12:44,429 and you know Chucky is her dad, Brad Dourif. 1659 01:12:44,431 --> 01:12:45,764 So she's basically playing Brad. 1660 01:12:45,766 --> 01:12:47,935 - This last movie I was just Like, 1661 01:12:49,303 --> 01:12:50,569 how did this happen? 1662 01:12:50,571 --> 01:12:52,571 How am I the lead of this movie? 1663 01:12:52,573 --> 01:12:55,608 - She becomes Chucky, ah, so brilliant. 1664 01:12:55,610 --> 01:12:58,476 That soul of Chucky is in her. 1665 01:12:58,478 --> 01:12:59,712 - It would be almost offensive 1666 01:12:59,714 --> 01:13:01,446 for anybody else to be possessed 1667 01:13:01,448 --> 01:13:04,617 by Chucky, except for Fiona. 1668 01:13:04,619 --> 01:13:05,684 Even with something weird, incestuous and gross 1669 01:13:05,686 --> 01:13:07,418 about that you could think, 1670 01:13:07,420 --> 01:13:08,453 it doesn't feel that way at all. 1671 01:13:08,455 --> 01:13:10,122 It feels really organic 1672 01:13:10,124 --> 01:13:11,023 and I like it. 1673 01:13:11,025 --> 01:13:12,124 - Like it should be that way. 1674 01:13:12,126 --> 01:13:12,760 - Yes. - Yeah. 1675 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,627 - Somebody else doing Brad would be sacrilage. 1676 01:13:14,629 --> 01:13:17,763 - It's kind of weird, because like there's 1677 01:13:17,765 --> 01:13:20,902 a young female version of a guy you knew. 1678 01:13:21,502 --> 01:13:22,635 Well, that's Fiona. 1679 01:13:22,637 --> 01:13:24,770 - She is such a brilliant actress. 1680 01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:27,740 And I saw her walking out there, I saw Brad. 1681 01:13:27,742 --> 01:13:29,440 And it's weird, 'cause I've never actually acted 1682 01:13:29,442 --> 01:13:31,510 with the real Brad. 1683 01:13:31,512 --> 01:13:33,512 I mean, off screen of course, doing the voice overs. 1684 01:13:33,514 --> 01:13:35,413 But when she was walking towards me, 1685 01:13:35,415 --> 01:13:37,616 I mean it was really, really sexy. 1686 01:13:37,618 --> 01:13:38,684 She really sort of morphed into Brad. 1687 01:13:38,686 --> 01:13:41,620 - It was just like a cacophony 1688 01:13:41,622 --> 01:13:43,789 of all of these emotions going into doing it. 1689 01:13:43,791 --> 01:13:46,661 That I would have a chance to play this thing 1690 01:13:47,662 --> 01:13:51,764 that my dad is famous for doing. 1691 01:13:51,766 --> 01:13:53,666 - I felt a little bit bad for Fiona, 1692 01:13:53,668 --> 01:13:56,434 because when Don was like, "Quick, quick," 1693 01:13:56,436 --> 01:13:58,370 I would be like lunge at her, 1694 01:13:58,372 --> 01:14:00,539 and our teeth would clatter. 1695 01:14:00,541 --> 01:14:02,574 - I would get her lipstick all over me. 1696 01:14:02,576 --> 01:14:04,843 And so we couldn't just go again, 1697 01:14:04,845 --> 01:14:07,713 'cause there was a big makeup reset each time. 1698 01:14:07,715 --> 01:14:09,581 - Then she'd pull away and I'd see she had lipstick 1699 01:14:09,583 --> 01:14:11,717 all over her face. 1700 01:14:11,719 --> 01:14:15,354 And I said to her, "Fiona when Entertainment Tonight asks 1701 01:14:15,356 --> 01:14:16,487 if I'm a good kisser, 1702 01:14:16,489 --> 01:14:17,790 will you just please lie and say yes?" 1703 01:14:17,792 --> 01:14:19,591 - It was really fun working with Jennifer. 1704 01:14:19,593 --> 01:14:21,329 I had wanted to my whole life. 1705 01:14:22,663 --> 01:14:24,263 I think it was intimidating 1706 01:14:24,265 --> 01:14:26,598 'cause she's so funny. 1707 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,467 - I would like to kiss Fiona in a controlled environment, 1708 01:14:29,469 --> 01:14:30,669 because I want to redeem myself. 1709 01:14:30,671 --> 01:14:33,439 - Making this movie was so fun. 1710 01:14:33,441 --> 01:14:35,307 It was like surreal fun. 1711 01:14:35,309 --> 01:14:36,542 I just had a ball. 1712 01:14:36,544 --> 01:14:37,878 You can ask your dad. 1713 01:14:38,946 --> 01:14:41,513 We were all kind of laughing the whole time. 1714 01:14:41,515 --> 01:14:44,717 - Meanwhile my dad is on the floor. 1715 01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:47,553 Your dad is always in the corner on the floor. 1716 01:14:47,555 --> 01:14:48,654 - Those are her eye lines. 1717 01:14:48,656 --> 01:14:50,789 - Yeah. 1718 01:14:50,791 --> 01:14:52,691 - By now, I may as well introduce myself 1719 01:14:52,693 --> 01:14:54,994 as Tony's daughter, and the filmmaker. 1720 01:14:54,996 --> 01:14:57,696 I set out to meet all these people surrounding the franchise 1721 01:14:57,698 --> 01:14:59,732 whose names had been a big part of my childhood, 1722 01:14:59,734 --> 01:15:01,533 but I never had the chance to meet. 1723 01:15:01,535 --> 01:15:03,669 I haven't officially met everybody 1724 01:15:03,671 --> 01:15:05,838 who's worked on the Chucky movies. 1725 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,841 But I feel like I've known Brad my whole life. 1726 01:15:08,843 --> 01:15:13,479 Like you have, it's so surreal meeting you now, 1727 01:15:13,481 --> 01:15:15,347 because you've been a part of my childhood 1728 01:15:15,349 --> 01:15:17,449 since I was practically born. 1729 01:15:17,451 --> 01:15:18,684 But I'd never met you 'til now, 1730 01:15:18,686 --> 01:15:20,519 but you've killed my dad before. 1731 01:15:20,521 --> 01:15:21,687 And the only- 1732 01:15:21,689 --> 01:15:23,756 - And see I never think of that. 1733 01:15:23,758 --> 01:15:25,657 There's all these weird layers of all that. 1734 01:15:25,659 --> 01:15:27,659 - Like everybody who've I've 1735 01:15:27,661 --> 01:15:28,996 been interviewing for this is like 1736 01:15:30,398 --> 01:15:31,497 in one way or another been a part 1737 01:15:31,499 --> 01:15:33,465 of how I've grown up. 1738 01:15:33,467 --> 01:15:34,600 - That's interesting. 1739 01:15:34,602 --> 01:15:36,335 - Chucky's been so at the helm 1740 01:15:36,337 --> 01:15:38,203 of my family I think. 1741 01:15:38,205 --> 01:15:38,839 So it's like kind of- 1742 01:15:39,206 --> 01:15:40,539 - You were how old when it came into your life? 1743 01:15:40,541 --> 01:15:42,574 - You were a little one. 1744 01:15:42,576 --> 01:15:44,511 You were like three-years-old, four-years-old. 1745 01:15:44,513 --> 01:15:46,678 - So you literally grew up with somebody, 1746 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,447 like you grew up with them in the family. 1747 01:15:48,449 --> 01:15:50,382 - I view him as a little brother. 1748 01:15:50,384 --> 01:15:51,550 Because I'm the youngest, 1749 01:15:51,552 --> 01:15:53,520 I always wanted a little sibling. 1750 01:15:53,522 --> 01:15:54,586 I thought it was very interesting 1751 01:15:54,588 --> 01:15:57,524 that Fiona and I both share growing up 1752 01:15:57,526 --> 01:15:59,658 with this doll, but in different aspects 1753 01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:02,327 of her dad was an actor, and mine was the head puppeteer. 1754 01:16:02,329 --> 01:16:05,330 - I was maybe six or five? 1755 01:16:05,332 --> 01:16:06,365 - You were young. 1756 01:16:06,367 --> 01:16:07,001 - I was young. 1757 01:16:08,269 --> 01:16:09,668 - Still a baby. 1758 01:16:09,670 --> 01:16:11,703 - I remember seeing him in the voiceover booth, 1759 01:16:11,705 --> 01:16:13,540 and he was like, screaming like he 1760 01:16:13,542 --> 01:16:16,509 was being burned alive. 1761 01:16:16,511 --> 01:16:18,677 Which I guess he was in the movie. 1762 01:16:18,679 --> 01:16:22,448 And I ran and hid under a desk? 1763 01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:24,517 - Yeah, you ran, no ran out of the thing 1764 01:16:24,519 --> 01:16:26,452 into the parking lot. 1765 01:16:26,454 --> 01:16:28,754 - You start screaming and crying. 1766 01:16:28,756 --> 01:16:32,825 You run back upstairs into your bedroom, 1767 01:16:32,827 --> 01:16:36,895 and hopped on your bed crying hysterically. 1768 01:16:36,897 --> 01:16:40,567 Telling everybody that you weren't gonna go downstairs, 1769 01:16:40,569 --> 01:16:42,301 because the "bad people" came. 1770 01:16:42,303 --> 01:16:44,436 The bad people were here. 1771 01:16:44,438 --> 01:16:47,406 And I look and there's Tiffany 1772 01:16:47,408 --> 01:16:50,609 and Chucky sitting on our coach. 1773 01:16:50,611 --> 01:16:52,377 - And poor little thing came in 1774 01:16:52,379 --> 01:16:54,179 and heard her daddy dying. 1775 01:16:54,181 --> 01:16:55,582 - I did. 1776 01:16:55,584 --> 01:16:58,350 - Being burned to death, and freaked out. 1777 01:17:02,923 --> 01:17:06,492 - I was so mad at him for leaving the dolls out. 1778 01:17:06,494 --> 01:17:08,694 'Cause you were just absolutely traumatized. 1779 01:17:08,696 --> 01:17:11,697 - I've been in a theater and watched my dad 1780 01:17:11,699 --> 01:17:13,765 watched his head explode in a microwave, 1781 01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:15,568 or whatever, over and over again. 1782 01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:17,836 And I don't like it. 1783 01:17:17,838 --> 01:17:19,771 And I still don't like to watch him die. 1784 01:17:19,773 --> 01:17:20,772 - I feel like that something, 1785 01:17:20,774 --> 01:17:22,609 'cause my dad dies in one of the movies. 1786 01:17:22,611 --> 01:17:24,611 - Yeah, that's right. 1787 01:17:24,613 --> 01:17:25,677 - So I feel like we have 1788 01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:27,547 this mutual understanding of what it's like 1789 01:17:27,549 --> 01:17:28,747 to watch our parents die. 1790 01:17:28,749 --> 01:17:31,618 - To watch our parents die, yeah. 1791 01:17:31,620 --> 01:17:35,555 - I love the scene where your dad gets decapitated, 1792 01:17:35,557 --> 01:17:37,723 in "Seed of Chucky," that was hilarious. 1793 01:17:37,725 --> 01:17:40,692 But I also loved the doll's reaction to it. 1794 01:17:40,694 --> 01:17:43,362 You know, they get spattered by his blood 1795 01:17:43,364 --> 01:17:45,199 and they're all turned on. 1796 01:17:46,535 --> 01:17:47,666 - I watched that 1797 01:17:47,668 --> 01:17:48,700 when I was eight by the way. 1798 01:17:48,702 --> 01:17:50,637 - Did that traumatize you? 1799 01:17:50,639 --> 01:17:52,704 - Yes. 1800 01:17:52,706 --> 01:17:54,673 - But didn't he show you the head and you know, 1801 01:17:54,675 --> 01:17:56,175 just like, "See this is like?" 1802 01:17:56,177 --> 01:17:57,442 - No. 1803 01:17:57,444 --> 01:18:00,846 And my only knowledge of you growing up 1804 01:18:00,848 --> 01:18:03,448 was that you kissed my dad's decapitated head. 1805 01:18:03,450 --> 01:18:05,784 - I know, isn't that gross? That's so gross. 1806 01:18:05,786 --> 01:18:08,453 I would have kissed his regular head, too. 1807 01:18:08,455 --> 01:18:09,688 - Due to these types of movies filming 1808 01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:12,424 so far away, they basically formed second families 1809 01:18:12,426 --> 01:18:13,593 while away from their real ones. 1810 01:18:13,595 --> 01:18:15,628 - Not only do we play with dolls, 1811 01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:17,896 but we made our living playing with dolls. 1812 01:18:17,898 --> 01:18:19,731 - So it always felt there was a piece missing, 1813 01:18:19,733 --> 01:18:22,502 and I had to meet my second family. 1814 01:18:22,504 --> 01:18:24,336 Like it wasn't complete until I met everybody. 1815 01:18:24,338 --> 01:18:25,839 - And feel this. 1816 01:18:26,675 --> 01:18:28,340 I mean you've grown up with this stuff but- 1817 01:18:28,342 --> 01:18:29,474 - Oh wow. - It's nothing. 1818 01:18:29,476 --> 01:18:32,444 - It's light. - it's a fake ax. 1819 01:18:32,446 --> 01:18:33,546 - For me it's kind of cool 1820 01:18:33,548 --> 01:18:34,681 that you're doing this documentary, 1821 01:18:34,683 --> 01:18:38,750 because for me I have my two families that get to meet. 1822 01:18:38,752 --> 01:18:40,385 'Cause these are the people I go to work 1823 01:18:40,387 --> 01:18:41,588 with and have fun with, 1824 01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:44,591 and think of it as extended family. 1825 01:18:44,593 --> 01:18:47,694 And for you guys to all meet up and actually make 1826 01:18:47,696 --> 01:18:50,195 that family unit, and that family dynamic larger, 1827 01:18:50,197 --> 01:18:51,430 is kind of cool. 1828 01:18:51,432 --> 01:18:54,399 - You know, all of us were like a family. 1829 01:18:54,401 --> 01:18:56,569 I would say a mostly functional family, 1830 01:18:56,571 --> 01:18:58,671 occasionally dysfunctional as all. 1831 01:18:58,673 --> 01:19:00,506 - You know, you work really long hours, 1832 01:19:00,508 --> 01:19:02,609 and it feels like camp. 1833 01:19:02,611 --> 01:19:05,444 - Going off to Chucky camp, as my wife and I call it. 1834 01:19:05,446 --> 01:19:07,513 - You can't do anything else 1835 01:19:07,515 --> 01:19:09,682 besides work with these people and make this thing. 1836 01:19:09,684 --> 01:19:12,719 - Given that the films are in Canada, or Romania, 1837 01:19:12,721 --> 01:19:14,319 and they're never here, I definitely don't look forward 1838 01:19:14,321 --> 01:19:16,455 to the time gone. 1839 01:19:16,457 --> 01:19:17,925 - Being away from 1840 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,727 home was horrible. 1841 01:19:20,729 --> 01:19:22,597 My wife and I met when we were 16, 1842 01:19:23,397 --> 01:19:25,764 on an archeological dig in the Negev Desert 1843 01:19:25,766 --> 01:19:30,369 between Jordan and Israel, and we're inseparable. 1844 01:19:30,371 --> 01:19:31,504 And I would be away for two, 1845 01:19:31,506 --> 01:19:33,606 maybe three weeks at a time, 1846 01:19:33,608 --> 01:19:36,441 then I would fly home for a weekend and then go back. 1847 01:19:36,443 --> 01:19:38,678 It was very difficult. 1848 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,680 - You're going somewhere where it's a different time zone, 1849 01:19:40,682 --> 01:19:43,415 so you're not gonna be able to be plugged in 1850 01:19:43,417 --> 01:19:45,450 just on the most basic routine. 1851 01:19:45,452 --> 01:19:46,519 - I mean there was no Skyping, or anything else, 1852 01:19:46,521 --> 01:19:48,588 so a lot of phone calls. 1853 01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:50,590 - Not much films in LA these days, 1854 01:19:50,592 --> 01:19:53,626 so you're always off somewhere. 1855 01:19:53,628 --> 01:19:55,662 - It's a job that takes you physically 1856 01:19:55,664 --> 01:19:57,730 to different places a lot. 1857 01:19:57,732 --> 01:19:59,398 And it's really time consuming when you're working. 1858 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:00,600 - I remember they were off to Romania, 1859 01:20:00,602 --> 01:20:02,602 and then Don told me afterwards there 1860 01:20:02,604 --> 01:20:05,605 was like terrible weather and stuff. 1861 01:20:05,607 --> 01:20:07,507 It sounded like a real adventure. 1862 01:20:07,509 --> 01:20:09,742 And that's the bad thing about doing a voice 1863 01:20:09,744 --> 01:20:11,778 is you just miss all that, you know. 1864 01:20:11,780 --> 01:20:13,748 - Sometimes it was just goddam lonely 1865 01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:17,482 in doing some of those films. 1866 01:20:17,484 --> 01:20:19,552 I mean, I would be in this huge room, 1867 01:20:19,554 --> 01:20:20,753 I mean a massive room. 1868 01:20:20,755 --> 01:20:21,486 They could put an orchestra in there. 1869 01:20:21,488 --> 01:20:23,455 And I had a mic. 1870 01:20:23,457 --> 01:20:24,590 And everybody was sitting in 1871 01:20:24,592 --> 01:20:26,626 the sound booth way far away. 1872 01:20:26,628 --> 01:20:28,393 - 'Cause everyone just thinks, 1873 01:20:28,395 --> 01:20:30,462 oh you spent all that time together. 1874 01:20:30,464 --> 01:20:32,732 No, I was just in a box with a mic. 1875 01:20:32,734 --> 01:20:35,768 - And I just did dialogue by myself all day. 1876 01:20:35,770 --> 01:20:38,705 And thank god when Jennifer finally came. 1877 01:20:38,707 --> 01:20:40,372 - Well, I suppose it's sort of changed for me 1878 01:20:40,374 --> 01:20:41,408 since I've had a family. 1879 01:20:42,811 --> 01:20:46,579 You know, that is now part of the decision making process. 1880 01:20:46,581 --> 01:20:48,548 - The first Chucky, the kids were somewhere 1881 01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:51,751 between five and eight, the two of them. 1882 01:20:51,753 --> 01:20:54,520 And it was difficult, it was difficult for everybody. 1883 01:20:54,522 --> 01:20:56,656 'Cause I was a father that until that point 1884 01:20:56,658 --> 01:20:58,524 had been there for everything. 1885 01:20:58,526 --> 01:21:01,493 - It doesn't bode well as far as, you know, 1886 01:21:01,495 --> 01:21:03,629 being able to do your job well, 1887 01:21:03,631 --> 01:21:05,698 and be a parent well at the same time. 1888 01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,400 One kind of gets put by the wayside. 1889 01:21:08,402 --> 01:21:09,769 - And you work a 15 or 17 hour day, 1890 01:21:09,771 --> 01:21:12,505 and then you go home and you crash for a few hours, 1891 01:21:12,507 --> 01:21:13,506 and then you have to come back and do it again. 1892 01:21:13,508 --> 01:21:14,674 - But it's not a nine to five. 1893 01:21:14,676 --> 01:21:17,677 It is a whatever time we would like you to come in, 1894 01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:19,512 and whatever time we would like you to leave. 1895 01:21:19,514 --> 01:21:20,747 - When you're filming a movie, you're going to war. 1896 01:21:20,749 --> 01:21:22,648 I don't want to make it sound like that, 1897 01:21:22,650 --> 01:21:23,549 'cause you're not killing people, 1898 01:21:23,551 --> 01:21:24,817 but you're killing yourself. 1899 01:21:24,819 --> 01:21:29,156 - It's just not normal in the way that it normally is. 1900 01:21:29,858 --> 01:21:32,391 I mean people go to work and they come home, 1901 01:21:32,393 --> 01:21:33,458 and then they're home. 1902 01:21:33,460 --> 01:21:34,627 - So the time that you put, 1903 01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:36,729 when I did "Sextupets" I worked 22 hour days. 1904 01:21:36,731 --> 01:21:39,766 Literally, out of a 70, 65-day shoot. 1905 01:21:39,768 --> 01:21:44,537 I was there probably 22 hours at least 50 times. 1906 01:21:44,539 --> 01:21:46,405 - I was working from 8:00 in the morning 1907 01:21:46,407 --> 01:21:49,675 'til 11:00 at night, five days a week. 1908 01:21:49,677 --> 01:21:51,476 And then also working on the weekends 1909 01:21:51,478 --> 01:21:53,513 when I could have time. 1910 01:21:53,515 --> 01:21:55,748 And I had a newborn baby at home. 1911 01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:58,283 - You know when I came home it was very late. 1912 01:21:58,285 --> 01:21:59,652 I had to get up early. 1913 01:21:59,654 --> 01:22:00,753 - Or you'd just be gone for- 1914 01:22:00,755 --> 01:22:05,658 - Or I'd be gone for weeks, or months. 1915 01:22:05,660 --> 01:22:08,761 - Every single person is dedicating their lives 1916 01:22:08,763 --> 01:22:12,665 for the next two weeks, seven weeks, or six months. 1917 01:22:12,667 --> 01:22:14,767 - With "Lord of the Rings" it was a year and a half. 1918 01:22:14,769 --> 01:22:17,369 "Master and Commander" was six months. 1919 01:22:17,371 --> 01:22:18,538 - Once you're committed to the film 1920 01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:20,506 you're at their disposal. 1921 01:22:20,508 --> 01:22:22,407 - If they said that now, I'd be like, 1922 01:22:22,409 --> 01:22:24,577 "Well, can my family come and visit? 1923 01:22:24,579 --> 01:22:26,378 And how would that work?" 1924 01:22:26,380 --> 01:22:27,446 So it's part of the process. 1925 01:22:27,448 --> 01:22:29,016 - The second season of "Phineas" 1926 01:22:30,585 --> 01:22:31,584 I had to really put my foot down 1927 01:22:31,586 --> 01:22:33,452 about hiring new people, 1928 01:22:33,454 --> 01:22:34,821 and building the budget of the show, 1929 01:22:34,823 --> 01:22:37,790 because I didn't want to miss my daughter growing up. 1930 01:22:37,792 --> 01:22:40,392 - But it's the life that we've chosen, 1931 01:22:40,394 --> 01:22:41,761 you know, it's nomadic. 1932 01:22:41,763 --> 01:22:44,697 - But if I had not had a kid in the mix, 1933 01:22:44,699 --> 01:22:47,500 I might have continued to work that hard. 1934 01:22:47,502 --> 01:22:48,568 - You know, that's why I see why people thank 1935 01:22:48,570 --> 01:22:50,268 their children and their families 1936 01:22:50,270 --> 01:22:51,436 when they win awards. 1937 01:22:51,438 --> 01:22:53,573 Yeah, I'm able to provide for guys 1938 01:22:53,575 --> 01:22:55,641 with my passion, and my art, and my hard work. 1939 01:22:55,643 --> 01:22:57,510 But when you get those statues its like time 1940 01:22:57,512 --> 01:22:58,744 to sit there and go, "Thank you. 1941 01:22:58,746 --> 01:23:00,580 Thank you guys for being understanding. 1942 01:23:00,582 --> 01:23:03,150 'Cause honestly without you I couldn't do this." 1943 01:23:04,318 --> 01:23:05,651 - It's hard, it's an interesting question. 1944 01:23:05,653 --> 01:23:06,619 No one's every asked me that. 1945 01:23:06,621 --> 01:23:10,489 No one's ever cared. That's so nice. 1946 01:23:10,491 --> 01:23:12,758 - I care 'cause my dad would have to go. 1947 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,827 - Of course, I know right when you asked that question, 1948 01:23:14,829 --> 01:23:16,896 I just thought that's such an interesting perspective. 1949 01:23:16,898 --> 01:23:20,398 - My father and I are basically like best friends. 1950 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,736 Yay! 1951 01:23:23,738 --> 01:23:27,439 - Can I have a share for your camera? Can we share? 1952 01:23:27,441 --> 01:23:28,508 - Take yours. 1953 01:23:30,512 --> 01:23:32,143 - Do it again. 1954 01:23:32,145 --> 01:23:33,347 Hi Daddy. 1955 01:23:34,147 --> 01:23:35,313 - Hey you. 1956 01:23:35,315 --> 01:23:36,448 - I can feel comfortable talking 1957 01:23:36,450 --> 01:23:37,550 about anything with him. 1958 01:23:37,552 --> 01:23:39,417 He's kind of a rock. 1959 01:23:39,419 --> 01:23:40,922 I admire him a lot. 1960 01:23:43,591 --> 01:23:44,790 - It really sucks when you're gone 1961 01:23:44,792 --> 01:23:47,427 and it's your kid's birthday and you can't be there. 1962 01:23:49,831 --> 01:23:51,597 That's the time you want to be there the most, 1963 01:23:51,599 --> 01:23:53,935 and then you're stuck, you know, 1964 01:23:55,603 --> 01:23:57,772 in some hotel room somewhere waiting 1965 01:23:58,773 --> 01:24:02,374 for the alarm to go off so you can go stick 1966 01:24:02,376 --> 01:24:04,012 a knife in Fiona's leg. 1967 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,881 Those two worlds don't mix very well. 1968 01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:09,851 I don't know how to put it. 1969 01:24:11,786 --> 01:24:14,620 - As a six, seven, eight-year-old 1970 01:24:14,622 --> 01:24:17,455 you have your other half so to speak, leave 1971 01:24:17,457 --> 01:24:19,692 on a plane for this movie, 1972 01:24:19,694 --> 01:24:21,594 you kind of have like a little spark taken out of you. 1973 01:24:21,596 --> 01:24:23,529 - Part of it too is knowing that you guys 1974 01:24:23,531 --> 01:24:24,597 aren't gonna be home forever. 1975 01:24:24,599 --> 01:24:26,566 And it's like you want to get, 1976 01:24:26,568 --> 01:24:28,668 you want to be there for everything, 1977 01:24:28,670 --> 01:24:32,304 'cause time just moves so fast. 1978 01:24:32,306 --> 01:24:34,472 - I think he probably missed out 1979 01:24:34,474 --> 01:24:35,843 on a lot of key moments that 1980 01:24:36,678 --> 01:24:39,712 we probably both wish we had. 1981 01:24:39,714 --> 01:24:41,346 - As a parent you feel like you miss everything. 1982 01:24:41,348 --> 01:24:43,315 I mean, part of the 1983 01:24:43,317 --> 01:24:44,318 fun of being 1984 01:24:45,620 --> 01:24:47,687 a parent is the family dynamic. 1985 01:24:47,689 --> 01:24:50,556 You know, listening to all three of you kids laugh, 1986 01:24:50,558 --> 01:24:53,391 to me, is like the best thing ever. 1987 01:24:54,562 --> 01:24:57,697 So you go away and you don't have that. 1988 01:24:57,699 --> 01:25:00,600 And then you're working shitty hours. 1989 01:25:00,602 --> 01:25:02,635 And then it's an eight hour time difference. 1990 01:25:02,637 --> 01:25:04,570 And you're completely on your own. 1991 01:25:04,572 --> 01:25:06,639 And it's like you have to remind yourself 1992 01:25:06,641 --> 01:25:07,607 that you're there to be able 1993 01:25:07,609 --> 01:25:09,008 to provide for your family, 1994 01:25:09,010 --> 01:25:11,544 but at the same time it's taking away from your family. 1995 01:25:11,546 --> 01:25:12,981 So it just kind of really sucks. 1996 01:25:14,549 --> 01:25:17,449 - I'm sorry. Gosh. 1997 01:25:17,451 --> 01:25:18,483 - There's some honesty for you. 1998 01:25:18,485 --> 01:25:20,385 - It's so hard to make any movie. 1999 01:25:20,387 --> 01:25:21,721 Even the worst movie ever made 2000 01:25:21,723 --> 01:25:24,724 is still hard to make, and people go through a lot. 2001 01:25:24,726 --> 01:25:27,593 So I think you want to go through it with somebody 2002 01:25:27,595 --> 01:25:28,527 that's already been through it with you. 2003 01:25:28,529 --> 01:25:33,331 - That sort of shared misery sometimes, 2004 01:25:33,333 --> 01:25:35,367 you know, shared experiences, 2005 01:25:35,369 --> 01:25:37,204 and the ups and downs of all of it. 2006 01:25:39,306 --> 01:25:40,573 It's nice having someone else you can relate to 2007 01:25:40,575 --> 01:25:41,907 that you can hang out with. 2008 01:25:41,909 --> 01:25:45,410 And it's weird, 'cause you'd go on set, and it's like, 2009 01:25:45,412 --> 01:25:46,679 "Oh, hey Carry how's it going?" 2010 01:25:46,681 --> 01:25:49,381 And last time you saw him was five years ago. 2011 01:25:49,383 --> 01:25:50,816 - And they're like your sister, 2012 01:25:50,818 --> 01:25:52,818 or your brother by the end of the shoot. 2013 01:25:52,820 --> 01:25:54,319 And then you walk off and you don't see each other. 2014 01:25:54,321 --> 01:25:55,721 - And that's it. 2015 01:25:55,723 --> 01:25:56,689 - And that's it. - And then you run into them 2016 01:25:56,691 --> 01:25:57,757 like five years later, and you're like, 2017 01:25:57,759 --> 01:26:00,626 "Oh, god, how are you? What's going on?" 2018 01:26:00,628 --> 01:26:01,727 - When you have sequels 2019 01:26:01,729 --> 01:26:03,629 and you have the same characters 2020 01:26:03,631 --> 01:26:05,296 and actors that you're coming back to, 2021 01:26:05,298 --> 01:26:06,599 it's very sweet. 2022 01:26:06,601 --> 01:26:08,734 I mean there's a real sweetness to it. 2023 01:26:08,736 --> 01:26:10,636 - It's very weird, because usually after, 2024 01:26:10,638 --> 01:26:11,604 if you haven't seen somebody 2025 01:26:11,606 --> 01:26:13,606 for like 10 years or something, 2026 01:26:13,608 --> 01:26:14,707 you have a lot to catch up on. 2027 01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:16,909 But because you're in that environment 2028 01:26:16,911 --> 01:26:19,578 where you're just working on the movie it's like, 2029 01:26:19,580 --> 01:26:21,681 you just boom, fall right back into it. 2030 01:26:21,683 --> 01:26:23,281 - So and so's had a kid, and whatever, 2031 01:26:23,283 --> 01:26:24,850 and you catch up. 2032 01:26:24,852 --> 01:26:27,620 And there is this cool family dynamic with those shows. 2033 01:26:27,622 --> 01:26:31,590 - It's a real kind of special sort of life 2034 01:26:31,592 --> 01:26:33,391 that you get to have, that goes away. 2035 01:26:33,393 --> 01:26:34,426 - That goes away. 2036 01:26:34,428 --> 01:26:35,863 - It's really sad to 2037 01:26:37,264 --> 01:26:39,598 pack everything up at the end of the show, 2038 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,600 and leave all these guys and gals behind. 2039 01:26:41,602 --> 01:26:43,836 - And when we wrap the show, 2040 01:26:43,838 --> 01:26:46,572 and the puppeteers and everybody were saying goodbye, 2041 01:26:46,574 --> 01:26:50,543 Don and Fiona actually drove out 2042 01:26:50,545 --> 01:26:52,377 and hung out with us for a couple of hours, 2043 01:26:52,379 --> 01:26:53,411 and said goodbye to everybody. 2044 01:26:53,413 --> 01:26:55,348 - And he gave a goodbye speech. 2045 01:26:58,418 --> 01:26:59,417 And just like, I don't know. 2046 01:26:59,419 --> 01:27:00,452 It sounds corny to talk about, 2047 01:27:00,454 --> 01:27:01,554 but just everybody in the room, 2048 01:27:01,556 --> 01:27:02,655 like there were a few people crying, 2049 01:27:02,657 --> 01:27:04,724 and they gave them all these gifts. 2050 01:27:04,726 --> 01:27:06,659 - But Don had to get up at like 5:00 in the morning 2051 01:27:06,661 --> 01:27:08,761 to go do the drone shot the next day. 2052 01:27:08,763 --> 01:27:11,396 We were all wrapped and we were gonna leave. 2053 01:27:11,398 --> 01:27:12,698 So he's like, "I'm coming out." 2054 01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:15,568 And then Fiona's like, "I'm coming with Don." 2055 01:27:15,570 --> 01:27:18,704 - And then he thanked me, and then I started crying 2056 01:27:18,706 --> 01:27:20,639 - People don't realize how seldom 2057 01:27:20,641 --> 01:27:23,542 you take away real friends from projects. 2058 01:27:23,544 --> 01:27:26,812 - Don Mancini is maybe my closest friend. 2059 01:27:26,814 --> 01:27:30,816 - Basically, my best friend now, which is so weird. 2060 01:27:30,818 --> 01:27:32,818 She's also young enough to be my daughter, 2061 01:27:32,820 --> 01:27:35,855 which makes it weirder in a way. 2062 01:27:35,857 --> 01:27:37,623 - He liked helped me through my mother's death. 2063 01:27:37,625 --> 01:27:39,827 He was with me when I found out she died. 2064 01:27:40,695 --> 01:27:43,596 He like, just feels like my family. 2065 01:27:43,598 --> 01:27:44,663 - We've been through a lot together. 2066 01:27:44,665 --> 01:27:46,499 He was at both of our daughter's bat mitzvahs. 2067 01:27:46,501 --> 01:27:48,501 He was at our daughter's wedding. 2068 01:27:48,503 --> 01:27:52,605 With me, with the loss of his parents. 2069 01:27:52,607 --> 01:27:55,674 You know, we've been through a lot of stuff together. 2070 01:27:55,676 --> 01:27:58,577 - I've always looked up to him since I was eight years old. 2071 01:27:58,579 --> 01:28:00,846 And then we didn't talk for many, many years 2072 01:28:00,848 --> 01:28:03,649 through my high school times and everything. 2073 01:28:03,651 --> 01:28:05,518 And then I guess probably late in my 20s 2074 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,553 is when we reconnected. 2075 01:28:07,555 --> 01:28:08,721 - We have a lot in common. 2076 01:28:08,723 --> 01:28:12,258 We have very similar taste in music, 2077 01:28:12,260 --> 01:28:13,526 and movies, obviously. 2078 01:28:13,528 --> 01:28:14,693 So we just sort of reconnected. 2079 01:28:14,695 --> 01:28:17,530 And it's like, oh he's a person now. 2080 01:28:17,532 --> 01:28:18,731 - And Alex Vincent is a close friend. 2081 01:28:18,733 --> 01:28:20,866 And Don has always been a close friend. 2082 01:28:20,868 --> 01:28:22,802 We never lost touch in the intervening years 2083 01:28:22,804 --> 01:28:26,172 between "Chucky 2" and "Cult" when I came back. 2084 01:28:27,374 --> 01:28:28,574 - I am her favorite director. 2085 01:28:28,576 --> 01:28:30,276 - He's my favorite director ever. 2086 01:28:30,278 --> 01:28:30,978 - Jennifer's awesome. 2087 01:28:33,614 --> 01:28:36,949 She's one of the funniest people you will ever meet. 2088 01:28:36,951 --> 01:28:40,451 - And I'm a little intimidated by her, honestly. 2089 01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:42,822 She does nothing to make me feel that, 2090 01:28:42,824 --> 01:28:47,626 but she's just this bigger than life character. 2091 01:28:47,628 --> 01:28:49,728 - David Kirschner, I adore him, he's a sweetheart. 2092 01:28:49,730 --> 01:28:51,664 On every single film that I've been on 2093 01:28:51,666 --> 01:28:54,465 he has been like a very calm, 2094 01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:56,502 sort of avuncular presence. 2095 01:28:56,504 --> 01:28:57,736 - It would been bizarre for me to stay close 2096 01:28:57,738 --> 01:28:59,538 with him then, like 24-years-old calling, 2097 01:28:59,540 --> 01:29:01,307 "Hi Alex's mom, it's Christine, 2098 01:29:01,309 --> 01:29:02,473 can I talk to Alex?" 2099 01:29:02,475 --> 01:29:04,977 That would have been deviant. 2100 01:29:05,746 --> 01:29:07,378 Creepy, a little creepy, yeah. 2101 01:29:07,380 --> 01:29:08,547 So that didn't happen. 2102 01:29:08,549 --> 01:29:09,682 - You know, we only reconnected 2103 01:29:09,684 --> 01:29:11,584 maybe six years ago or something like that. 2104 01:29:11,586 --> 01:29:13,819 But we talk very often. 2105 01:29:13,821 --> 01:29:15,588 - I really love the person Alex has grown into being. 2106 01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:17,556 - No, I think it's really cool 2107 01:29:17,558 --> 01:29:19,592 how Brad and Fiona have a chance 2108 01:29:19,594 --> 01:29:21,627 to actually share something as intimate 2109 01:29:21,629 --> 01:29:23,662 as this incredible franchise. 2110 01:29:23,664 --> 01:29:27,365 - Fiona is like really truly, a family operation 2111 01:29:27,367 --> 01:29:29,367 that she is the daughter of the man 2112 01:29:29,369 --> 01:29:30,669 who's voiced Chucky for 30 years. 2113 01:29:30,671 --> 01:29:33,505 - As a father that has daughters, 2114 01:29:33,507 --> 01:29:36,775 it touches me that Fiona is, 2115 01:29:36,777 --> 01:29:39,178 she's truly the "Seed of Chucky." 2116 01:29:41,549 --> 01:29:43,649 - Also, now, it's more of me 2117 01:29:43,651 --> 01:29:44,817 just being very proud of her, 2118 01:29:44,819 --> 01:29:48,789 because she's got her feet, and doesn't need me. 2119 01:29:49,456 --> 01:29:51,523 Basically, she- 2120 01:29:51,525 --> 01:29:52,691 - I still need you. 2121 01:29:52,693 --> 01:29:55,361 - I mean, she might call me once in awhile. 2122 01:29:55,363 --> 01:29:57,897 And you know, I very rarely, 2123 01:29:57,899 --> 01:30:01,267 but every once in awhile I'll volunteer some things 2124 01:30:01,269 --> 01:30:02,637 based on what I see. 2125 01:30:04,238 --> 01:30:06,073 But for the most part I love what I see. 2126 01:30:07,508 --> 01:30:09,176 - Oh, thanks, Dad. 2127 01:30:11,279 --> 01:30:13,245 - I'm really impressed. 2128 01:30:13,247 --> 01:30:14,580 - Thanks, Daddy. 2129 01:30:14,582 --> 01:30:17,650 - And we all do have a lot of respect 2130 01:30:17,652 --> 01:30:19,785 and admiration for each other. 2131 01:30:19,787 --> 01:30:21,553 - We all really enjoy each other's company, 2132 01:30:21,555 --> 01:30:22,588 and we all have fun. 2133 01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:23,722 And it's cool to be able 2134 01:30:23,724 --> 01:30:25,658 to work with people that you like. 2135 01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:27,559 - It's something that I'm so proud of 2136 01:30:27,561 --> 01:30:29,494 that that's a part of my career. 2137 01:30:29,496 --> 01:30:31,563 I don't think my life would be different. 2138 01:30:31,565 --> 01:30:33,832 It would not have been as enriched 2139 01:30:33,834 --> 01:30:38,270 if Don Mancini or Tony Gardner weren't part of it. 2140 01:30:38,272 --> 01:30:39,738 They're dear, dear friends 2141 01:30:39,740 --> 01:30:42,808 that I have deep conversations with, and love that. 2142 01:30:42,810 --> 01:30:46,612 - Chucky has like given me a career, and an identity. 2143 01:30:46,614 --> 01:30:49,381 - Chucky was the first thing that I did 2144 01:30:49,383 --> 01:30:51,317 that had a fan base. 2145 01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:53,185 And that got me- 2146 01:30:53,187 --> 01:30:53,953 - Noticed. 2147 01:30:53,955 --> 01:30:55,621 - Yeah, it got me a career. 2148 01:30:55,623 --> 01:30:57,589 - One of the best gifts to have in life, 2149 01:30:57,591 --> 01:30:59,892 particularly when you get older, you'll find out, 2150 01:30:59,894 --> 01:31:04,596 is that it's just nice for people to listen to you. 2151 01:31:04,598 --> 01:31:06,532 I've been doing this a long time. 2152 01:31:06,534 --> 01:31:07,499 I've been doing this for 30 years now. 2153 01:31:07,501 --> 01:31:10,669 So that like people still care about it, 2154 01:31:10,671 --> 01:31:12,604 and want to talk to me about it, that's awesome. 2155 01:31:12,606 --> 01:31:14,340 - See this is the reason why going into 2156 01:31:14,342 --> 01:31:15,541 the seventh Chucky film, 2157 01:31:15,543 --> 01:31:17,776 that Chucky has a huge fan base. 2158 01:31:17,778 --> 01:31:22,548 - The cult fan base of Chucky is very multi-faceted. 2159 01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:26,552 So you've got like the sort of the typical young guys 2160 01:31:26,554 --> 01:31:28,354 who love horror, and they love 2161 01:31:28,356 --> 01:31:30,723 to see guts and gore, and T&A. 2162 01:31:30,725 --> 01:31:34,360 - And it's not like a lot of horror films 2163 01:31:34,362 --> 01:31:35,694 where every movie is basically 2164 01:31:35,696 --> 01:31:37,629 the same movie that came before. 2165 01:31:37,631 --> 01:31:40,499 - And then you've got young women who are like tend 2166 01:31:40,501 --> 01:31:42,768 to be a little more sensitive than that. 2167 01:31:42,770 --> 01:31:46,872 And their interests in it tend to be a little bit different. 2168 01:31:46,874 --> 01:31:49,541 - Every movie that Don does there's like a new twist. 2169 01:31:49,543 --> 01:31:50,809 - People really love it. 2170 01:31:50,811 --> 01:31:52,578 People come with their little doll and all that. 2171 01:31:52,580 --> 01:31:53,579 "Could you sign that?" 2172 01:31:53,581 --> 01:31:54,446 - Their Glen doll? 2173 01:31:54,448 --> 01:31:55,381 - Yeah. 2174 01:31:55,383 --> 01:31:57,282 - Glen? 2175 01:31:57,284 --> 01:31:59,385 - Guess again, Daddy? 2176 01:31:59,387 --> 01:32:00,786 - Horror's always been counterculture. 2177 01:32:00,788 --> 01:32:02,488 I think that that makes the people who are fans 2178 01:32:02,490 --> 01:32:04,456 of it band together. 2179 01:32:04,458 --> 01:32:05,657 - I don't think there's any other genre 2180 01:32:05,659 --> 01:32:07,593 that has a fan base like horror. 2181 01:32:07,595 --> 01:32:10,562 - Horror fans are, and I include myself 2182 01:32:10,564 --> 01:32:13,365 in this category, very passionate. 2183 01:32:13,367 --> 01:32:15,701 But also very obsessed, 2184 01:32:15,703 --> 01:32:17,603 just like very obsessed with the films. 2185 01:32:17,605 --> 01:32:19,471 - And the fans always know so much about it. 2186 01:32:19,473 --> 01:32:20,606 They're well-versed, you know, 2187 01:32:20,608 --> 01:32:22,608 they're complete fanatics. 2188 01:32:22,610 --> 01:32:27,746 - They are devoted, loving, kind, non-violent, 2189 01:32:27,748 --> 01:32:31,216 people who appreciate what you have created 2190 01:32:31,218 --> 01:32:32,519 and given them. 2191 01:32:32,521 --> 01:32:35,522 - It's celebrated. We get to celebrate it often. 2192 01:32:35,524 --> 01:32:37,623 You know, I do conventions with Christine Elise. 2193 01:32:37,625 --> 01:32:39,358 - I think one of the things I'm most entertained 2194 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,559 about at conventions is it's 2195 01:32:40,561 --> 01:32:42,861 a gigantic collection of people. 2196 01:32:42,863 --> 01:32:45,931 - Table after table, and thousands of people, 2197 01:32:45,933 --> 01:32:49,835 - Who are in society generally looked at as outsiders. 2198 01:32:49,837 --> 01:32:51,637 They tend to be wearing black, black T shirt. 2199 01:32:51,639 --> 01:32:53,672 - And they look like they should be 2200 01:32:53,674 --> 01:32:56,775 in a death metal band, and screaming 2201 01:32:56,777 --> 01:33:00,379 and Wielding an ax, and throwing shit at people. 2202 01:33:00,381 --> 01:33:01,580 - But they're, they seem to be like 2203 01:33:01,582 --> 01:33:03,615 the bizarrely, the most wholesome. 2204 01:33:03,617 --> 01:33:05,784 - Usually, they're the most honestly mild-mannered. 2205 01:33:05,786 --> 01:33:09,855 And it's like they're actually really normal people. 2206 01:33:09,857 --> 01:33:13,692 Not all horror fans shop at Hot Topic. No disrespect. 2207 01:33:13,694 --> 01:33:16,563 Not all of us do that. Only sometimes. 2208 01:33:16,565 --> 01:33:18,831 - Jennifer Tilly and I did Comicon. 2209 01:33:18,833 --> 01:33:22,334 And there were people coming up for autographs afterwards, 2210 01:33:22,336 --> 01:33:23,902 pushing babies in strollers. 2211 01:33:23,904 --> 01:33:26,605 And they had like Chucky or Tiffany tattooed on them. 2212 01:33:26,607 --> 01:33:29,542 It's like, wow these people are really into it. 2213 01:33:29,544 --> 01:33:31,443 - All the boys have tattoos. 2214 01:33:31,445 --> 01:33:33,378 All the girls are big girls, they're tough, 2215 01:33:33,380 --> 01:33:34,847 they're kick ass, those girls. 2216 01:33:34,849 --> 01:33:37,249 And they always have a great sense of humor. 2217 01:33:37,251 --> 01:33:38,585 I love the horror fans. 2218 01:33:38,587 --> 01:33:41,554 - I get so many letters, and like drawings. 2219 01:33:41,556 --> 01:33:43,755 - Comicon is great for us. 2220 01:33:43,757 --> 01:33:47,726 For the niche parts of entertainment 2221 01:33:47,728 --> 01:33:50,395 it's this great place where we get to be sort of thought of. 2222 01:33:50,397 --> 01:33:51,730 - But they were so polite, 2223 01:33:51,732 --> 01:33:54,233 and had such a genuine appreciation for it, 2224 01:33:54,235 --> 01:33:55,701 and such a love for it. 2225 01:33:55,703 --> 01:33:58,804 - Horror's so cool because it is a genre, 2226 01:33:58,806 --> 01:34:01,608 where the below the line people get appreciation. 2227 01:34:01,610 --> 01:34:03,475 - I love every single person I've met 2228 01:34:03,477 --> 01:34:04,776 at a convention, for real. 2229 01:34:04,778 --> 01:34:10,382 They are just excited, joyous, and giving. 2230 01:34:10,384 --> 01:34:11,584 - I think it's great to just come here, 2231 01:34:11,586 --> 01:34:13,485 and be surrounded by people who love horror. 2232 01:34:13,487 --> 01:34:14,786 Like at any horror convention, 2233 01:34:14,788 --> 01:34:17,189 it's just really cool to find more and more 2234 01:34:17,191 --> 01:34:18,357 of these out here. 2235 01:34:18,359 --> 01:34:19,691 And to see more and more people 2236 01:34:19,693 --> 01:34:21,727 from all different regions of the United States, 2237 01:34:21,729 --> 01:34:24,564 and all over the world coming to celebrate this genre. 2238 01:34:24,566 --> 01:34:27,299 - It's wonderful to see that kind of fan base support 2239 01:34:27,301 --> 01:34:28,400 for the movies, in person. 2240 01:34:28,402 --> 01:34:29,536 - I love being here, man. 2241 01:34:29,538 --> 01:34:31,370 I love being surrounded by this. 2242 01:34:31,372 --> 01:34:32,838 It's my favorite place to be. 2243 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,508 - They're always great about meeting their fans. 2244 01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:37,309 Don Mancini always makes time 2245 01:34:37,311 --> 01:34:38,645 to sign every autograph. 2246 01:34:38,647 --> 01:34:40,513 - And so to meet them in person, 2247 01:34:40,515 --> 01:34:41,747 and just get to talk to them, 2248 01:34:41,749 --> 01:34:43,650 even if it's just for a few minutes 2249 01:34:43,652 --> 01:34:46,385 about those experiences, I really appreciate that. 2250 01:34:46,387 --> 01:34:47,654 - Story telling is about communication, 2251 01:34:47,656 --> 01:34:49,721 and it relies on both parties, 2252 01:34:49,723 --> 01:34:52,592 the story teller and the person who's hearing 2253 01:34:52,594 --> 01:34:54,293 the story and responding to it. 2254 01:34:59,266 --> 01:35:00,732 - Any movie is a dialogue in a way. 2255 01:35:00,734 --> 01:35:03,670 And I think that's increasing true 2256 01:35:03,672 --> 01:35:05,437 in the world of social media. 2257 01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:06,738 - Internet has come along, 2258 01:35:06,740 --> 01:35:10,709 and everybody can share photos and cross analyze, 2259 01:35:10,711 --> 01:35:12,778 what he looked like in this film versus that film? 2260 01:35:12,780 --> 01:35:14,514 And a lot people have really good opinions, 2261 01:35:14,516 --> 01:35:15,781 and really smart ones. 2262 01:35:15,783 --> 01:35:18,618 And I think the fan base is something 2263 01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:21,588 that's become rather amazing in a way. 2264 01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:24,524 - You get like feedback from fans 2265 01:35:24,526 --> 01:35:26,693 and people who watch movies, way more quickly, 2266 01:35:26,695 --> 01:35:29,394 and more consistently than you ever did. 2267 01:35:29,396 --> 01:35:30,597 It's just immediate. 2268 01:35:30,599 --> 01:35:33,533 - My experience with fan conventions 2269 01:35:33,535 --> 01:35:35,367 is diametrically opposed to my experience 2270 01:35:35,369 --> 01:35:37,704 with fans online. 2271 01:35:37,706 --> 01:35:40,839 Fans online tend to be, I mean, half of them are lovely, 2272 01:35:40,841 --> 01:35:44,577 and effusive and great and curious, and wonderful. 2273 01:35:44,579 --> 01:35:47,513 - And if they're unhappy you hear it right away. 2274 01:35:47,515 --> 01:35:49,549 - And another half are incredibly mean, 2275 01:35:49,551 --> 01:35:52,384 and vindictive and scary even sometimes. 2276 01:35:52,386 --> 01:35:53,720 Nobody ever is in real life. 2277 01:35:53,722 --> 01:35:56,255 - We're such a large group of people 2278 01:35:56,257 --> 01:35:58,457 to be invested in a story 2279 01:35:58,459 --> 01:36:00,526 that has been told for over 30 years. 2280 01:36:00,528 --> 01:36:02,427 To be a part of that is truly special. 2281 01:36:02,429 --> 01:36:03,663 - To be a part of something 2282 01:36:03,665 --> 01:36:07,634 that so many people love is really surreal. 2283 01:36:07,636 --> 01:36:08,735 - Every new Chucky installment they're like, 2284 01:36:08,737 --> 01:36:10,703 "Oh my god, what's gonna happen?" 2285 01:36:10,705 --> 01:36:13,472 Because they really see Chucky as a real person. 2286 01:36:13,474 --> 01:36:15,374 - Whatever Chucky represents to people 2287 01:36:15,376 --> 01:36:18,678 is real, and legitimate. 2288 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,381 And there's like passion for the character. 2289 01:36:22,383 --> 01:36:23,716 It just feels like this weird gift 2290 01:36:23,718 --> 01:36:25,585 that I get to be involved in it. 2291 01:36:25,587 --> 01:36:27,720 - It's an important chapter of my life 2292 01:36:27,722 --> 01:36:31,557 that thankfully, hasn't ended in 30 years. 2293 01:36:31,559 --> 01:36:33,425 I don't have any other project like that. 2294 01:36:33,427 --> 01:36:35,427 I don't think anybody else does. 2295 01:36:35,429 --> 01:36:36,897 - It's a blessing, definitely. 2296 01:36:37,732 --> 01:36:39,431 As my grandmother used to always say 2297 01:36:39,433 --> 01:36:41,701 about Chucky, "He's such a bitch." 2298 01:36:41,703 --> 01:36:44,604 But he's a bitch hat keeps on giving. 2299 01:36:44,606 --> 01:36:45,638 - Do you think of Chucky 2300 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,439 as part of your own family? 2301 01:36:47,441 --> 01:36:48,708 - Of course, I do think of Chucky 2302 01:36:48,710 --> 01:36:52,578 as family he's mine, he's mine. 2303 01:36:52,580 --> 01:36:54,413 Although Tony will say, "He's mine." 2304 01:36:54,415 --> 01:36:56,448 And David Kirschner will say, "He's mine." 2305 01:36:56,450 --> 01:36:58,551 'Cause success has many fathers. 2306 01:36:58,553 --> 01:37:02,354 - We joke about that, that he's our third child. 2307 01:37:02,356 --> 01:37:04,856 - I'm proud to have been his papa. 2308 01:37:04,858 --> 01:37:08,493 - I think of Chucky as my little demented brother. 2309 01:37:08,495 --> 01:37:10,630 It's true when I see him sometimes, 2310 01:37:10,632 --> 01:37:12,699 you know, I feel close to him. 2311 01:37:12,701 --> 01:37:14,534 - No, I don't feel like he's a little brother. 2312 01:37:14,536 --> 01:37:16,636 I feel like maybe he's like 2313 01:37:16,638 --> 01:37:19,106 a dog that really lived a really long time. 2314 01:37:21,743 --> 01:37:23,643 That you've had your whole life, you love him, 2315 01:37:23,645 --> 01:37:27,479 but he shits on your floor. 2316 01:37:27,481 --> 01:37:28,748 - I don't think of Chucky as a kid. 2317 01:37:28,750 --> 01:37:32,518 I think of Chucky as an employer sometimes 2318 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,822 in a weird way. 2319 01:37:34,622 --> 01:37:36,622 And then he's a family member. 2320 01:37:36,624 --> 01:37:39,026 - Our little boy, is what we always say in this house. 2321 01:37:41,763 --> 01:37:43,696 is what you were trying to say, right? 2322 01:37:43,698 --> 01:37:45,765 - There you go. You ratted me out. 2323 01:37:45,767 --> 01:37:48,803 - and we got it on video. 2324 01:37:51,606 --> 01:37:53,874 - Tiffany's my favorite. 2325 01:37:57,010 --> 01:38:00,412 I think being part of the Chucky family, 2326 01:38:00,414 --> 01:38:02,548 there's just somebody who truly gets you, 2327 01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:04,550 because not every other daughter, 2328 01:38:04,552 --> 01:38:07,319 or father or person has grown up 2329 01:38:07,321 --> 01:38:08,554 in the same environment. 2330 01:38:08,556 --> 01:38:10,489 I feel so connected to everybody. 2331 01:38:10,491 --> 01:38:11,724 I like these relationships, 2332 01:38:11,726 --> 01:38:14,694 and I hope they grow more over the years. 2333 01:38:14,696 --> 01:38:17,898 - Now, we really will be the perfect family. 2334 01:38:22,737 --> 01:38:25,404 - I think these relationships have definitely more 2335 01:38:25,406 --> 01:38:27,673 than grown over the past few years. 2336 01:38:27,675 --> 01:38:30,475 - It's funny 'cause I don't think any of us expected 2337 01:38:30,477 --> 01:38:34,680 it to continue on, let alone gather 2338 01:38:34,682 --> 01:38:36,616 a larger family in the process 2339 01:38:36,618 --> 01:38:38,417 as it keeps moving forward. 2340 01:38:38,419 --> 01:38:40,820 And now we're headed to Canada. 2341 01:38:40,822 --> 01:38:44,657 We're going to Toronto to shoot a TV series called "Chucky." 2342 01:38:44,659 --> 01:38:47,627 - I am coming to you from the set of the "Chucky" series. 2343 01:38:47,629 --> 01:38:49,829 Which we are filming here in Toronto, Ontario. 2344 01:38:49,831 --> 01:38:52,698 Who would have thought, 25 years ago when he talked me 2345 01:38:52,700 --> 01:38:55,200 into playing this part, that I would still be 2346 01:38:55,202 --> 01:38:56,669 at it many movies later, 2347 01:38:56,671 --> 01:38:58,937 and now, a television series? 2348 01:38:58,939 --> 01:39:03,509 - Eight episodes, eight hour long episodes of killer doll. 2349 01:39:03,511 --> 01:39:05,511 The foundation is the same. 2350 01:39:05,513 --> 01:39:08,648 Don Mancini is the show runner, and wrote the pilot, 2351 01:39:08,650 --> 01:39:10,616 and is directing the pilot. 2352 01:39:10,618 --> 01:39:12,618 David Kirschner is producing. 2353 01:39:12,620 --> 01:39:14,687 All the lead puppeteers are back on it. 2354 01:39:14,689 --> 01:39:16,288 - And of course, darling old Chucky, 2355 01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:18,223 the star of our show. 2356 01:39:18,225 --> 01:39:19,592 We must not forget him, 2357 01:39:19,594 --> 01:39:21,493 because if we did he would get very, very cranky. 2358 01:39:23,665 --> 01:39:26,532 I have to be quiet now, 'cause we're filming. Bye. 2359 01:39:26,534 --> 01:39:27,667 - It's been an interesting journey really. 2360 01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:30,536 The world has gotten a lot smaller. 2361 01:39:30,538 --> 01:39:32,538 - And the family's gotten larger. 2362 01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:34,841 - It's a little dysfunctional and deadly, 2363 01:39:34,843 --> 01:39:38,477 but everybody gets along and has a lot of fun. 2364 01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,646 - And we're just gonna keep on killing people. 2365 01:39:40,648 --> 01:39:42,715 The family that slays together 2366 01:39:42,717 --> 01:39:44,817 stays together. - Stays together. 185366

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