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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[tense music] [radio chatter]
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- wow.
- Looks like our guy.
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- tonight, on "the first 48:
Critical minutes..."
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- I wanted to be a police officer
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since I was a little kid.
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- Just trying to piece all of it together.
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There's so many different
components.
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- I'm not gonna give up on this case
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until it's over.
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- [sobbing]
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- rookie detectives
are put to the test.
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- Yeah, that's how I roll.
- Damn.
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- Psht.
- Let's roll.
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- And need to prove themselves.
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- Come off the bull[bleep].
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Just tell me exactly
what happened.
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- As they work their first cases.
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- I still got a lot to learn
about this job.
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[sirens wailing]
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[smooth music]
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♪ ♪
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- remember your first case, bro?
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- Yeah, I do remember.
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A little bit over
five years ago.
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It was on shalimar st.,
new orleans east.
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Over a bottle of cough syrup.
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Yeah.
- Jeez.
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Cleared it?
- Not till recently.
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- Oh, really?
Wow.
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Hope it doesn't take me
five years to clear this one.
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- New orleans detective
rayell johnson
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was with the police department
for six years
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before he joined homicide.
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In March 2014, the young father got called to his first case
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as lead detective.
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[suspenseful music]
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- what's up, buddy?
What's up?
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- All right, so preliminary
information we've got right now.
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We've got two victims.
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One's at the hospital, and
they're working on him now.
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- Mm-hmm.
- One's deceased.
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- You have a name on him?
- Just charles meyers.
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[somber music]
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male narrator: Thirty-two-year-old
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charles meyers was born and raised in new orleans.
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He was the father of a six-year-old daughter
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and a two-year-old son.
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- um, trash cans, where'd they--
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- trash cans were brought out
here by the people
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in the neighborhood...
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Narrator: Charles was shot ten times at close range.
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- we got this black truck
that's pulled over.
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Multiple gunshots
inside of that.
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Got multiple shell casings
around the victim.
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- Looks like .40 caliber casings.
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- Mm-hmm.
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Narrator: Half a block from the body...
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- That's 9 mm casings
down there.
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- Back over there
where that unit is?
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Narrator: A second set of casings.
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- You got two different
calibers.
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Probably two different shooters.
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- I don't understand why
the casings are over there.
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- Yeah, that's...
- That car parked right there.
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- It's a little confusing.
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So far it's really scattered
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as to what could've possibly
happened.
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Now, we have two sets
of casings a block apart.
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I'm going to see
what they're looking at.
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what the hell?
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Look like some type
of cable box.
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- Yeah.
- It's just a cable box.
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- I know.
- [chuckles]
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mm.
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- This is related
to the whole thing, I think.
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Finding the truth
is gonna be...
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[sighs]
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- this is rayell's first case,
and it's a complicated case,
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but, uh, I have all
the confidence in the world
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that rayell
will solve this case.
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- [sighs]
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well, gonna head up to see
if we get surviving victim
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to give us some information
about what happened out here.
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Just trying to piece
all of this together.
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There's so many
different components.
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[crows caw]
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as of right now,
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we think
that he's just a victim,
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that he didn't, you know,
do anything wrong,
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so, uh, we're just gonna
get him in there
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and see if
he's willing to talk.
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All right.
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Just start from the beginning.
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What happened?
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- They were jumping into your--
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- ok.
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- You don't know
who these dudes are?
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- All right, and then
what happened after that?
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Narrator: The surviving victim
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says he couldn't warn charles to stay away.
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- And what happened?
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Narrator: He says three men tied them up at gunpoint.
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- Ok.
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Narrator: Charles tried to run for his life,
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but the heavyset man gunned him down.
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Narrator: He says the driver shot at him
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and jumped out of the car.
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- see that video, bruh.
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Here they come.
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- Ok, that's them right there.
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So it looks like they jumped the fence.
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- Whoa. Puts on the brakes. - Yeah.
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So it kind of looked like they was just waiting on him
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to get home.
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Pretty much how he described it.
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- That's a robbery in progress.
- Mm-hmm.
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- Jesus, so he's telling
the truth.
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They abducted him.
- Yeah. Yeah.
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- He wasn't lying.
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- Wow.
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- So is that our deceased?
- That's the deceased, yeah.
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That's them walking him to
the backyard, like they said.
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Narrator: The team searches every angle
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for the suspects' faces.
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- one spot, one spot,
one spot, one spot, one spot.
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- here comes anoth--
- there you go.
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Pause it, pause it right now.
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Narrator: Detectives see a fourth suspect.
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- Another perp.
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- We have a video of the perpetrators,
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so about to send a bulletin to all the district units.
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Hopefully we'd be able to get them identified.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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narrator: The next day...
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♪ ♪
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- how you doing?
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I came here to show this video.
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Narrator: Detective rayell johnson and the team
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show the surviving victim video of the suspects
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and get a break.
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- That's something.
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[engine starts]
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[sighs]
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after seeing the video, he says
that the big guy is the shooter.
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Narrator: He pointed out the heavyset man
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in the white t-shirt as the man who killed charles.
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- Disappointed
he couldn't id him.
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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[telephone rings]
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wow.
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All right, appreciate you.
Thank you.
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A man named jonathan holmes
had been bragging
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about being responsible
for the murder.
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I believe him to be the guy
who actually shot
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and murdered charles meyers.
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I mean, to do something
like this, broad daylight,
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he's a real dangerous guy.
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That's somebody we don't need
on the streets.
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Narrator: An hour later,
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the surviving victim arrives at headquarters.
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- Let's see if he picks
this guy out, so...
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We'll see.
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[suspenseful music]
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- review each photographcarefully.
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If you recognize anyone,tell me why you recognize them.
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- that's big boy?
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- Ok, and how
do you know big boy?
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- He's the one that shot
your cousin?
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- [exhales]
all right.
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Nice, we picked him out.
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Real brave of him to come in
and, you know, id this guy.
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Him and his cousin,
they were real close.
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They pretty much grew up
together.
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They've been tight
their whole life, so...
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Get this warrant signed
for his arrest,
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send it out and...
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See if I can get
this guy picked up.
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Narrator: Johnson sends out the violent offender warrant squad
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to track down the alleged killer, jonathan holmes.
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[sirens wailing]
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narrator: The alleged killer,
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jonathan holmes,
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is taken into custody.
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- Do you wish
to waive your rights
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and speak with the police
or do you wish to remain silent?
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Narrator: Holmes is taken to jail.
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[suspenseful music]
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an hour later...
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- But then he told sod
when he got there
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he wants to talk.
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- Pfft.
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- Yeah, so...
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We'll go over there
and try to talk to him,
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then we'll bring good old detective tim bender,
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we'll bring the wise, old, savvy veteran.
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Sometimes got
old wise-guy-ass tricks
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up his sleeve,
you never know, so...
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- We'll see.
If this cat wants to talk,
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he's gonna talk.
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- ok.
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[dramatic musical flourish]
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- [groans]
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the fact is he put himself there,
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we have proof
that he was there,
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and we have somebody who id'd
him as the shooter, so...
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That's a wrap.
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First case.
Pretty excited.
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- That's good.
Congratulations.
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- Thank you.
- First case?
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- Let's knock it
out of the park.
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Boom-psht.
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- Wonderful job.
I'm so proud of you.
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Your first case too, huh?
- Yeah, that's how I roll.
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- Damn.
- That's how I roll.
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Psht.
[laughs]
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- you can train these guys,
but you know...
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- But there's plenty more
to do, so, you know...
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- Still, outstanding job.
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- Appreciate that, bro.
Appreciate that.
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[somber music]
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♪ ♪
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you know, it's a tragic case.
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Charles lost his life
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just trying to fight
for his own life.
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With me, it's just gonna be
one of those cases
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that's gonna
stick with me forever,
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not just because
it's my first one.
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Just because I can kind of
relate to it, being that I have
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a young daughter,
and him having young kids,
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but I did my part
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in trying to get justice
for him.
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It's just sad.
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♪ ♪
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[uneasy music]
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♪ ♪
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- I'm not gonna give up on this case
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until it's over.
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- Phoenix detective, jason schechterle,
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had overcome a lot of adversity
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before joining the homicide unit.
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His first case's lead
had just one clue,
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but he was determined to get
to the bottom of it.
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♪ ♪
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- I've been in phoenix police
homicide unit
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for about 18 months now,
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and in the world of homicide,
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that's about 20 minutes.
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Narrator: Jason schechterle is homicide's newest rookie.
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- 'cause I still got a lot
to learn about this job.
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Narrator: Four years ago, he was just starting out
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as a patrol officer, when he barely survived
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a car accident.
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- My patrol car
caught on fire,
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and I suffered severe burns
to about 43% of my body.
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I was off work
for about 18 months.
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I went through quite
the recovery process.
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So far, I've had 47 surgeries
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to rebuild and try to make my appearance, you know,
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a little bit better.
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I didn't really know what I was
gonna do with my career
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or didn't really feel like I had
a place in the world anymore.
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The homicide unit took me in
and gave me a home,
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and things have been great
ever since.
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This will actually
be my first case
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as a lead investigator.
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[electronic music]
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♪ ♪
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narrator: The crime scene is in the parking lot
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of an auto body shop.
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The response team finds the victim's shirt...
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And truck.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- the victim is
eduardo beltran.
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Hispanic male, uh,
about 28 years old.
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The victim had gone into
the office with the manager,
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telling him that he needed
an estimate
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on the damage for his truck,
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that he was in an accident the night before.
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Narrator: The victim told the auto body shop manager
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that he was meeting the man who crashed into his car.
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Together, they were gonna get an estimate for damages.
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- Manager went back inside
and heard the shot.
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They all came out and found him lying on the pavement
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out here in this parking lot,
and that's all we have.
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Narrator: Detectives find their first clue.
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- Ah, excellent.
- Uh, what that is
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is a money receipt in the victim's name.
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What we're concerned with
is the receipt,
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has some writing on the back
we think is the person
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he had the accident
with last night,
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his phone number.
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- It's leading us in one
direction at this point.
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Hopefully it's in
the right direction.
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This is our best lead right now.
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[energetic music]
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♪ ♪
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- eduardo beltran,
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the last phone number
he dialed and received
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in his phone
is the same number,
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and it's also written on a piece
of paper in his truck.
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He was in a car accident less than 24 hours ago,
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so it really looks like his murder is related
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to that accident and this phone number.
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Narrator: Schechterle triesto track down a name or address
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for the suspect's cell phone number.
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- It is a long shot that
this phone is connected,
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but, first of all,
it's my only lead.
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[dramatic musical flourish]
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the registered subscriber
to that cell phone number?
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No such address, no such name.
Nothing.
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- Eduardo beltran is dead.
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- The only thing--
- that's as far as we've gotten
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in five hours.
- That's all we have.
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- Nothing.
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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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- so, I think
it's a great lead.
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I'll get a subpoena and see
if I can get it figured out.
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- Ok.
347
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[speaking in spanish]
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♪ ♪
349
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- hi, maria.
I'm jason schechterle.
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I work for the phoenix
police department.
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How are you?
- Good. Fine.
352
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Ve
jason schecterle worked
353
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the one clue he had
in his first case,
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a phone number,
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and the records eventually led him
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to the girlfriend of a man named arturo.
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- Oswaldo told us that
the phone belonged to a man
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named arturo, and that
the reason arturo calls
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all the time is because he's
in love with you, basically,
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and he calls oswaldo,
361
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so oswaldo
can give you messages,
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and that he wants you back
and that he loves you.
363
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- It's not the real name
for that guy.
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- Ok, well,
that's what I'm looking for.
365
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- The guy that's supposed
to be named arturo,
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it's not his real name.
367
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- Well, the man I'm asking
about, arturo,
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what do you know him as?
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- Rodolfo.
- Rodolfo?
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- Mm-hmm.
- He shooting my new boyfriend.
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- He shot your boyfriend?
- Yeah.
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- Is he still alive?
- Yeah.
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Male narrator: Maria says that rodolfo broke into her house,
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shot her boyfriend,
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and then disappeared.
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- You saw him do it?
- Yeah.
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- So did you talk to police
that night?
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- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- Did they ever arrest him
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or talk to him?
- No, they never arrested.
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- They never found him?
- No, they never--
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- I think we have
positively id'd the guy
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with the phone number
that I've been looking for.
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Plus, we might have--
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- he's going around
shooting people [laughs].
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- Plus, we know--yeah,
we know that he's capable
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of shooting somebody.
Yeah, I never expected
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to find out,
when I identified this guy
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that he's wanted
for shooting somebody.
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That's just--
that's huge.
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♪ ♪
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I am going to try
and find a picture of him
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in our crime catcher system.
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And there he is.
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Narrator: Schechterle gets a look
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at his suspect,
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rodolfo gutierrez.
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[suspenseful music]
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- recognize this guy?
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- It's him.
- That's who?
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- Rodo.
- That's--
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- rodolfo gutierrez.
- That's rodolfo gutierrez?
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♪ ♪
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I used to work patrol
for this beat, right here.
404
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Ok, that building right there
405
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is where she says it was.
406
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449 would be
on the bottom floor.
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It's gonna be the door
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just on the south side
of that stairwell.
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I will go back,
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get his photo turned over to
one of our swat team squads
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and, uh, see what they can do.
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This apartment is very close
to the intersection
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where I had my accident
several years ago.
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See where that white truck is?
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I was there.
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My car was hit,
and I ended up right here
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in front of this green pole.
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My car travelled that far,
burst into flames,
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but thankfully,
there was a fire truck
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just sitting right there,
as fate would have it.
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They were able to help me out.
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I try in my mind to equate that to the challenges
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of this investigation here.
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Just as I didn't give up on myself,
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my family didn't give up on me or anything.
426
00:20:38,613 --> 00:20:40,029
I'm not gonna give up on this case
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until it's over.
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Narrator: That evening, the swat team serves a warrant
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at rodolfo's apartment.
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Rodolfo is arrested for shooting maria's boyfriend.
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- We'll bring him upstairs, see what kind of an interview
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we can get out of him.
433
00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:57,713
- Our goal is going to be to
gradually go from the interview
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of the aggravated assault
into the homicide.
435
00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:01,759
It's a solid connection that jason has uncovered.
436
00:21:01,803 --> 00:21:04,262
That's what it's all about, man.
- Oh, this has been--
437
00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:05,554
- this is all up.
- This has been so much fun,
438
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,597
I can't tell you.
- Right now,
439
00:21:06,641 --> 00:21:08,224
you just have to slow down.
440
00:21:08,309 --> 00:21:11,352
Younger detectives, they get excited about these things,
441
00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:13,104
and that's ok, but we--
right now,
442
00:21:13,147 --> 00:21:15,606
we wanna slow
everything down.
443
00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:17,275
[suspenseful music]
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00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,402
narrator: Spanish-speaking detective, john shalhoub,
445
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will conduct the interview.
446
00:21:25,994 --> 00:21:28,744
Narrator: Rodolfo admits that he broke into maria's house
447
00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:30,413
and shot her boyfriend.
448
00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:36,919
- I think you're getting
somewhere.
449
00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:38,629
They're talking
about the shooting.
450
00:21:38,673 --> 00:21:41,924
He was involved
in the agg assault.
451
00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:43,467
Hey, he's crying.
452
00:21:43,511 --> 00:21:45,636
He's admitting to his
involvement in the agg assault.
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00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,555
Narrator: Shalhoub then turns the interview
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to the homicide.
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00:22:01,654 --> 00:22:04,113
Narrator: Rodolfo says he and his friend, moreno,
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are part of a gang that robs illegal immigrant traffickers.
457
00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:07,658
[dramatic musical flourish]
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00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,618
they were setting up a robbery nearby
459
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,621
when the victim kept calling about repairing his truck.
460
00:22:16,919 --> 00:22:19,795
Rodolfo went with moreno to the auto body shop.
461
00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:27,011
- Jason.
- Yeah.
462
00:22:27,055 --> 00:22:28,888
- They're talking about being
at the body shop.
463
00:22:28,973 --> 00:22:30,848
- He admits being there?
464
00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:34,435
- He admits to being there.
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00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,853
- That's good.
It's going really good.
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00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:57,041
♪ ♪
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00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:07,718
- a little bit more.
468
00:23:26,989 --> 00:23:29,740
Narrator: Rodolfo says that the victim's calls annoyed moreno.
469
00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:39,417
- You got it, brother.
- Yeah, man.
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00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:41,544
- What did he have to say?
- That was awesome.
471
00:23:41,587 --> 00:23:43,295
- He did it.
- He said he shot him?
472
00:23:43,381 --> 00:23:45,047
- He shot him.
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00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:48,092
[somber music]
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00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:55,099
♪ ♪
475
00:24:11,993 --> 00:24:13,909
- you know, a good person,
a family man,
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00:24:13,995 --> 00:24:15,911
a guy who works,
loses his life
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00:24:15,997 --> 00:24:21,292
because he called
somebody's cell phone
478
00:24:21,335 --> 00:24:23,794
at the wrong time,
on the wrong day.
479
00:24:23,838 --> 00:24:27,631
It's crazy that life is that
meaningless to so many people.
480
00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:33,762
♪ ♪
481
00:24:33,848 --> 00:24:36,307
only about the investigation.
482
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:37,850
Detectives must work closely
483
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:40,144
with the victim's family
as well.
484
00:24:40,188 --> 00:24:42,188
Atlanta detective scott berhalter
485
00:24:42,273 --> 00:24:44,148
needed to crack
a suspect's alibi
486
00:24:44,192 --> 00:24:46,734
in order to bring closure
to the victim's family.
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00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:51,530
♪ ♪
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00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:55,075
[suspenseful music]
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00:24:55,161 --> 00:24:56,035
- victim was shot
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multiple times with, uh,
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00:24:57,705 --> 00:25:00,539
what they call on the streets
is a chopper,
492
00:25:00,625 --> 00:25:02,833
an ak-47-style weapon.
493
00:25:02,919 --> 00:25:05,461
The, uh, shooter fled on foot,
494
00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:07,338
so that's all we know right now.
495
00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:09,006
Male narrator: Rookie homicide detective,
496
00:25:09,050 --> 00:25:11,842
scott berhalter, will lead the investigation.
497
00:25:13,513 --> 00:25:16,055
- I wanted to be
a police officer, uh,
498
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,015
since I was a little kid.
499
00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:19,808
After a stint in the gang unit,
500
00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:21,852
I got to go
to the homicide unit.
501
00:25:21,896 --> 00:25:24,188
They're the best.
It is an honor and a privilege
502
00:25:24,232 --> 00:25:25,981
to, uh--to work with these guys
503
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:29,109
and to learn
from their experience.
504
00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:36,200
♪ ♪
505
00:25:38,621 --> 00:25:41,664
[indistinct chatter]
506
00:25:49,423 --> 00:25:52,800
he didn't make it past
this threshold most likely.
507
00:25:52,885 --> 00:25:55,886
Do we have a name?
508
00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:58,055
- Deontavious wright.
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00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,849
Narrator: 29-year-old deontavious wright,
510
00:26:00,935 --> 00:26:02,393
known as deon,
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00:26:02,436 --> 00:26:06,063
grew up in atlanta with his two siblings.
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00:26:06,107 --> 00:26:09,817
He leaves behind a young daughter and an infant son.
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00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:15,739
♪ ♪
514
00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:17,825
after hearing about the shooting,
515
00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:21,203
deon's family and friends gather at the scene.
516
00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:23,247
[solemn music]
517
00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:26,208
- [sobbing]
518
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:28,794
- we do have a couple of witnesses.
519
00:26:28,879 --> 00:26:32,214
The brother of the victim.
Another one is the, uh--
520
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,049
a friend of the victim.
521
00:26:34,135 --> 00:26:35,259
They were inside of the apartment
522
00:26:35,344 --> 00:26:38,178
when the incident happened.
523
00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:40,472
Narrator: The team will take the witnesses to headquarters
524
00:26:40,558 --> 00:26:42,600
to be interviewed.
525
00:26:42,643 --> 00:26:45,394
♪ ♪
526
00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,816
detective tracy casey interviews deon's friend,
527
00:26:50,901 --> 00:26:53,444
who was in the apartment when he was murdered.
528
00:26:53,487 --> 00:26:56,113
- Just tell me the story,
how it all went down.
529
00:27:41,535 --> 00:27:45,329
Narrator: She says the gunmen forced deon into her bedroom.
530
00:27:48,751 --> 00:27:50,334
- Who was he?
531
00:27:56,092 --> 00:27:58,342
- Did you see a second person?
532
00:28:06,602 --> 00:28:09,853
Narrator: She says she did not recognize the second intruder.
533
00:28:19,073 --> 00:28:20,864
[disturbing music]
534
00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:23,701
- did you see anybody
with a gun shooting?
535
00:28:34,547 --> 00:28:36,588
♪ ♪
536
00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:40,050
- tell me everything from when they first came up.
537
00:28:40,094 --> 00:28:42,886
Narrator: Down the hall, detective summer benton
538
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:46,682
speaks to the victim's brother.
539
00:28:46,767 --> 00:28:49,977
He says the three intruders stole money and cell phones,
540
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,688
then one of the men grabbed the ak-47
541
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:54,398
and pointed it at deon.
542
00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:08,912
- Ok, the one male that said,
"shoot," who was that male?
543
00:29:09,790 --> 00:29:11,540
- Ok.
544
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:46,158
♪ ♪
545
00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:48,952
[suspenseful music]
546
00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:55,959
♪ ♪
547
00:29:58,339 --> 00:30:00,172
- I can't arrest little larry at this time
548
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:01,757
without more evidence.
549
00:30:01,801 --> 00:30:05,761
Witnesses are pretty adamant
that little larry's involved,
550
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:10,140
but they are also saying that
larry was wearing a ski mask.
551
00:30:10,184 --> 00:30:12,476
You know, he did give
us tony rucker,
552
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,687
and I need the witnesses
to be able to tell me
553
00:30:15,773 --> 00:30:18,690
that this person is the person that they saw.
554
00:30:18,776 --> 00:30:20,442
[dialing]
555
00:30:20,528 --> 00:30:23,153
[line trilling]
556
00:30:24,198 --> 00:30:27,074
- this is detective berhalter
at atlanta police department.
557
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:29,910
Narrator: Berhalter asks deon's friend to come back
558
00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:32,412
and look at a lineup for the suspected shooter,
559
00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:33,956
little tony.
560
00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:35,999
- It will be a huge help,
definitely.
561
00:30:40,673 --> 00:30:42,506
Narrator: She's heard that they've questioned larry
562
00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:44,007
and released him.
563
00:30:52,142 --> 00:30:55,811
- Before I can take warrants out
and place anybody under arrest,
564
00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:57,938
there are certain things
that I have to do
565
00:30:58,023 --> 00:30:59,273
so that we can--
566
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,149
you know, the goal isn't
to just get an arrest.
567
00:31:01,235 --> 00:31:02,359
The goal is for us to get
568
00:31:02,403 --> 00:31:05,195
a conviction
and get you guys justice.
569
00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:17,749
- Look, ma'am,
the goal for tonight,
570
00:31:17,835 --> 00:31:20,294
the reason why I wanted
to speak with you...
571
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:22,045
- ...Is to show you
a photographic lineup.
572
00:31:27,803 --> 00:31:29,720
- What can I--what can I do
for you to give you
573
00:31:29,805 --> 00:31:31,221
a better feeling
about all this?
574
00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:50,908
Atlanta detective,
scott berhalter,
575
00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:52,492
was in a tough spot,
576
00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:54,786
but berhalter had to follow proper procedures
577
00:31:54,872 --> 00:31:57,080
before he could make an arrest.
578
00:32:02,463 --> 00:32:04,546
[suspenseful music]
579
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,465
- we're not trying to say
that what you said
580
00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:08,342
isn't important or isn't true.
581
00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:11,845
I believe all of you, ok?
I do.
582
00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:15,933
But in order for me to put
someone under arrest, ok?
583
00:32:15,976 --> 00:32:18,936
I have certain things
that I have to go through,
584
00:32:18,979 --> 00:32:20,604
and I am doing everything
that I can.
585
00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:31,281
- Ok.
- Ok.
586
00:32:31,367 --> 00:32:34,076
- All right.
587
00:32:35,162 --> 00:32:36,995
- Your goal for her
is you need to get her
588
00:32:37,081 --> 00:32:38,288
to look at the lineup,
right?
589
00:32:38,332 --> 00:32:41,625
- Mm-hmm.
- We need to get to her asap.
590
00:32:43,963 --> 00:32:45,629
Narrator: Detectives scott berhalter
591
00:32:45,673 --> 00:32:47,798
and mike young hope they can get the witness
592
00:32:47,841 --> 00:32:49,466
on their side.
593
00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:55,931
♪ ♪
594
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:32,676
♪ ♪
595
00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:41,935
♪ ♪
596
00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:43,353
- it went well.
597
00:33:43,397 --> 00:33:49,818
♪ ♪
598
00:33:50,738 --> 00:33:52,529
have a seat, please.
599
00:33:52,573 --> 00:33:55,574
Narrator: The next day, the victim's brother comes in
600
00:33:55,659 --> 00:33:57,701
to id the shooter.
601
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:04,041
- We have a photographic lineup
to show you, m'kay?
602
00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:07,044
One of these three suspects
may or may not be
603
00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:09,880
in this photographic lineup,
right?
604
00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:15,552
♪ ♪
605
00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:17,679
and who is that?
606
00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:19,389
- And what did he do?
607
00:34:21,435 --> 00:34:23,727
[disturbing music]
608
00:34:23,771 --> 00:34:26,980
♪ ♪
609
00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:29,399
- I think that getting an arrest
warrant for little tony
610
00:34:29,443 --> 00:34:32,319
and getting him off the street
will really help
611
00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:34,362
the other witnesses
in the family.
612
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:37,699
It'll kind of help put them
at ease.
613
00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:40,744
[suspenseful music]
614
00:34:40,788 --> 00:34:47,751
♪ ♪
615
00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:51,755
- tony, what's up, bud?
616
00:34:51,799 --> 00:34:58,762
♪ ♪
617
00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:04,559
- on the couches?
618
00:35:04,645 --> 00:35:07,270
Anybody in the back bedroom?
619
00:35:12,653 --> 00:35:16,279
Narrator: He claims he left before the shooting went down.
620
00:35:16,365 --> 00:35:18,448
- M'kay, who'd you come
in there with?
621
00:35:21,161 --> 00:35:23,745
- And that doesn't make sense.
622
00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:25,747
We got witnesses that put
the three of you together
623
00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:27,457
at the time of the shooting.
624
00:35:27,501 --> 00:35:30,418
The three of you run out
together.
625
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,924
- People aren't gonna buy
that story.
626
00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:37,926
Now, people might believe
627
00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:39,928
that you were there
for the robbery,
628
00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:42,139
but you weren't expecting it
to go bad.
629
00:35:42,224 --> 00:35:44,266
You figured the ak-47 was enough
630
00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:46,810
to scare the [bleep]
out of anybody.
631
00:35:53,986 --> 00:35:56,153
- Okay.
632
00:35:56,196 --> 00:35:58,488
All right.
633
00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:02,993
- Right, but you were there.
634
00:36:05,038 --> 00:36:08,331
- Okay, all right.
635
00:36:08,417 --> 00:36:11,918
All right,
that's what I'm going with.
636
00:36:12,004 --> 00:36:13,962
[door closes]
637
00:36:14,047 --> 00:36:15,463
[radio chatter]
638
00:36:15,549 --> 00:36:19,384
narrator: Tony rucker is placed under arrest for murder.
639
00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:22,345
- Through the open the door.
Hook a left.
640
00:36:22,389 --> 00:36:24,181
♪ ♪
641
00:36:24,266 --> 00:36:26,183
- this way.
642
00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:31,855
♪ ♪
643
00:36:31,899 --> 00:36:34,024
[telephone rings]
644
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:36,818
- atlanta police, homicide,
detective berhalter speaking.
645
00:36:36,904 --> 00:36:38,904
Narrator: Berhalter gets a break.
646
00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:40,530
- How do you know him?
647
00:36:40,574 --> 00:36:43,867
Narrator: A ci has information on the third suspect.
648
00:36:43,911 --> 00:36:45,368
- And who is that?
649
00:36:45,412 --> 00:36:46,870
♪ ♪
650
00:36:51,168 --> 00:36:53,710
[suspenseful music]
651
00:36:53,754 --> 00:36:55,670
male narrator: The caller gives detective berhalter
652
00:36:55,756 --> 00:36:57,672
the name of the third suspect.
653
00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:58,965
- All right,
thank you very much.
654
00:36:59,051 --> 00:37:01,885
Buh-bye.
655
00:37:01,929 --> 00:37:03,386
Searching.
656
00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:06,181
Black male by the name
of aaron simmons,
657
00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:07,390
also known as little pea.
658
00:37:07,434 --> 00:37:11,061
♪ ♪
659
00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:13,230
narrator: 19-year-old aaron simmons
660
00:37:13,273 --> 00:37:15,190
has previous convictions for forgery
661
00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:17,275
and giving a false name.
662
00:37:17,361 --> 00:37:18,610
- According to the witnesses,
663
00:37:18,695 --> 00:37:22,364
this is the individual
that had brought the ak-47
664
00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:25,742
into the apartment and said,
"shoot him."
665
00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:35,210
♪ ♪
666
00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:36,628
narrator: While the fugitive squad
667
00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:38,380
searches for little pea...
668
00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:41,049
- All right, all right,
all right.
669
00:37:41,134 --> 00:37:43,927
- Detective berhalter continues to look for holes
670
00:37:43,971 --> 00:37:45,553
in larry's alibi.
671
00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:47,931
- Uh, we got larry's phone
records back in
672
00:37:47,975 --> 00:37:51,059
on the day of the homicide.
673
00:37:51,103 --> 00:37:54,396
10:02, he made an outgoing call.
674
00:37:54,481 --> 00:37:55,939
♪ ♪
675
00:37:56,024 --> 00:37:58,775
tsk.
And then, yeah.
676
00:37:58,819 --> 00:38:01,903
10:02 a.M. Is right before
the homicide occurs,
677
00:38:01,989 --> 00:38:05,073
and when larry made
that phone call
678
00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:06,950
it was pinging on the side
of the tower
679
00:38:06,994 --> 00:38:10,787
that would place him
at the scene of the homicide.
680
00:38:12,165 --> 00:38:14,249
I'm confident he was
there already,
681
00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:16,960
because witnesses say he may
have been wearing a mask,
682
00:38:17,045 --> 00:38:18,295
but that is him.
683
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,964
So if we combine that
with the phone records,
684
00:38:21,008 --> 00:38:23,133
we'll definitely get an arrest
warrant for him.
685
00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:28,596
♪ ♪
686
00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:31,641
narrator: Five months after deon's murder...
687
00:38:31,685 --> 00:38:34,185
♪ ♪
688
00:38:34,271 --> 00:38:36,438
- I received a call from, uh,
689
00:38:36,481 --> 00:38:37,939
gwinnett county
police department,
690
00:38:38,025 --> 00:38:40,608
and they, uh, told me
that they had, uh,
691
00:38:40,694 --> 00:38:44,821
apprehended aaron simmons,
our third suspect.
692
00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:50,452
♪ ♪
693
00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:52,620
now, here's the thing.
694
00:38:52,706 --> 00:38:55,165
I don't think you're a killer.
- Huh?
695
00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:58,168
- It doesn't matter
what I think, ok?
696
00:38:58,253 --> 00:39:01,004
Because right now
I got folks talking
697
00:39:01,089 --> 00:39:03,757
and saying you are a killer.
698
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:05,842
So I wanted to give you
this opportunity.
699
00:39:05,886 --> 00:39:07,218
That's why I'm here.
700
00:39:07,304 --> 00:39:10,722
So, come off the bull[bleep],
all right?
701
00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:12,515
Just tell me exactly
what happened.
702
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:16,853
♪ ♪
703
00:39:32,537 --> 00:39:33,870
- okay.
704
00:39:33,914 --> 00:39:35,872
Who killed him then?
705
00:39:35,916 --> 00:39:37,957
- I don't know, I just say
that I wasn't in the house
706
00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:40,210
when the man got killed.
I was around the area.
707
00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:42,712
Narrator: Aaron claims he was in a different apartment
708
00:39:42,756 --> 00:39:45,507
in the complex at the time of the shooting.
709
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:47,717
- Suspect interviews can be challenging
710
00:39:47,761 --> 00:39:49,761
for the most experienced detectives,
711
00:39:49,846 --> 00:39:51,679
let alone a rookie new to the process.
712
00:39:51,765 --> 00:39:54,391
When detective scott berhalter
finally identified and arrested
713
00:39:54,434 --> 00:39:56,393
the third suspect
in this shooting,
714
00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:58,395
he hit a dead end
in the interview.
715
00:39:58,438 --> 00:40:03,566
♪ ♪
716
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:06,027
- I've been doing this
for 30 years.
717
00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,738
- You have a grandmother
or a mother?
718
00:40:08,824 --> 00:40:10,365
- Yeah, see, the only benefit
719
00:40:10,409 --> 00:40:11,950
is that they know
you told the truth
720
00:40:12,035 --> 00:40:13,701
about what happened.
721
00:40:13,787 --> 00:40:17,038
- Why were you
in the apartment?
722
00:40:19,501 --> 00:40:22,043
- What kind of business were
you doing in the apartment?
723
00:40:23,422 --> 00:40:24,921
- Okay.
724
00:40:25,006 --> 00:40:27,590
So, while you're in
the apartment, what happens?
725
00:40:30,303 --> 00:40:32,387
Narrator: Little pea claims two men burst in
726
00:40:32,472 --> 00:40:33,847
to rob the apartment.
727
00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:35,723
- Yeah.
728
00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:37,225
- Mm-hmm.
729
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:40,603
Narrator: He says he immediately ran out the door.
730
00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:41,896
Boom-boom-boom-boom
boom-boom-boom.
731
00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:48,903
- Mm-hmm.
732
00:40:48,989 --> 00:40:51,489
- Mm-hmm.
733
00:40:51,575 --> 00:40:53,116
- Dig it, dig it.
734
00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:00,623
- All right.
735
00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:03,793
At no point did you ever
participate in that robbery,
736
00:41:03,879 --> 00:41:04,961
is what you're saying?
737
00:41:05,005 --> 00:41:06,796
You're just there
when it happened.
738
00:41:08,008 --> 00:41:10,175
- All right.
739
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:11,593
I appreciate your truth, man.
740
00:41:11,678 --> 00:41:12,802
I appreciate that today.
All right?
741
00:41:12,888 --> 00:41:13,970
- Yes, sir.
- All right?
742
00:41:14,055 --> 00:41:15,972
- I'm just saying.
- All right.
743
00:41:16,016 --> 00:41:18,600
♪ ♪
744
00:41:18,685 --> 00:41:21,978
- the goal by going outside was to get him in the apartment
745
00:41:22,022 --> 00:41:23,646
where the murder actually happened,
746
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:25,315
and we accomplished that
out in the courtyard,
747
00:41:25,358 --> 00:41:27,484
out in the sally port,
so that's a good look.
748
00:41:27,569 --> 00:41:29,319
It's good, man.
Great job on it, man.
749
00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:31,488
- I appreciate it, man.
- Good luck.
750
00:41:31,531 --> 00:41:33,823
- It's nice to have the veteran detectives
751
00:41:33,909 --> 00:41:35,658
to help you and mentor you,
752
00:41:35,744 --> 00:41:38,620
and it feels great that I was able to solve this one.
753
00:41:38,705 --> 00:41:41,664
[dramatic music]
754
00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:48,671
♪ ♪
755
00:41:56,848 --> 00:42:00,099
♪ ♪
756
00:42:00,185 --> 00:42:01,976
- getting your first case as a lead detective
757
00:42:02,062 --> 00:42:04,521
is nerve-wracking, right?
758
00:42:04,564 --> 00:42:06,648
It's stressful.
Am I good enough to do this?
759
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,650
Am I gonna get this done?
760
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:11,444
You wanna be a good detective.
761
00:42:11,530 --> 00:42:14,030
As you go, and you get your experience,
762
00:42:14,074 --> 00:42:17,534
you're gonna eventually become that great homicide detective.
763
00:42:17,577 --> 00:42:19,827
- [laughs]
- congrats, boy.
764
00:42:19,913 --> 00:42:25,041
♪ ♪
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