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- In the criminal
justice system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate, yet
equally important groups:
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the police, who
investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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- Hey, Rachel. It's me.
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I know we said 7:00,
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but I'm still a
couple of minutes out.
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I will see you soon.
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Hey, Rachel. It's me again.
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I'm 30 minutes
late, but I'm here.
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I'm really sorry.
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A witness interview ran long,
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and I lost track of time.
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Just call me back if
you need to reschedule.
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Rachel.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, I need an ambulance
at Sutton Place Park.
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- Talk to us.
- Stabbing.
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Single wound. Bled out.
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MLI puts time of death
at about 7:00 p.m.
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DOA is Rachel
Bender, 38 Red Hook.
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- Cash and credit
cards are still here.
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We can cross off robbery.
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- Any signs of sexual assault?
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- MLI says no indications.
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Found the wallet here
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and got the fresh shoe
print in the mud there.
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- Get an imprint
of that to the lab.
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- I'll let them know.
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- Judging by the blood trail,
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it looks like she tried to
make it out of the park.
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- Didn't get very far.
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Dialed 9.
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Maybe trying to call for help.
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- Witnesses?
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- A park maintenance employee
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said he saw the victim arguing
with a guy in a long coat.
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He was a ways off, so he didn't
get race or age specifics.
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Just figured it
was a lovers' spat.
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- Who found the body?
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- Home team. Prosecutor.
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- Counselor.
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- She was a friend.
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- Want to tell us what happened?
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- We were supposed to meet up.
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I hadn't seen her in months,
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but she called me this morning.
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Said she wanted my
advice about something.
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- Did she mention
what it was about?
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- No, she just said
it was complicated.
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- When were you
supposed to meet?
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7:00.
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I was running late, so I
didn't get here till 7:30.
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- I'm just gonna
assume that someone
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can verify your
whereabouts before then.
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- Yeah.
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- How'd you know her, Nolan?
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- We worked side by side at
the public defender's office
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for three years.
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- She was still a
public defender?
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- Yeah.
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- Long list of people would want
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someone like that dead.
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- Somebody like that?
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- Sorry. That came out wrong.
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Boy, did I put my foot
in my mouth there.
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- More like both feet.
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- Nothing suspicious
in the vic's apartment.
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She lived alone.
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No indication of a
significant other.
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- Murder weapon?
- Nope.
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No eyewitnesses. Nothing
on canvass either.
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- What about next of kin?
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- Her mom is coming
up from Baltimore now.
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- Where was Rachel coming
from before she was killed?
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- Work. Public
defender's office
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is five blocks from
Sutton Place Park.
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- Vi, can we grab any footage
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and track her walk
from the office?
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- Cameras are sparse
near the park,
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but I did pull something
from the security cams
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by her office.
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Guy's following Rachel.
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- Can you freeze that?
- That's a clean look.
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Any chance he's in the system?
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- Checking now.
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Owen Bardo. Yonkers address.
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Long sheet of violent priors.
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He's on trial for assault now.
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Guess who his
counsel of record is?
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- Rachel Bender.
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- Owen Bardo.
- Yeah.
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- NYPD. We need a minute.
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When's the last time
you saw Rachel Bender?
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- Yesterday evening.
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- Why were you with her?
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- Wait. What's this about?
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- This is about the fact that
your lawyer turned up dead
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after you were seen
following her yesterday.
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- What?
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- So why were you following her?
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- I wasn't.
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She asked me to sign this
affidavit for my case,
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so I was dropping it off.
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- We didn't find her
with any affidavit.
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- 'Cause she said she was
on her way to meet a friend.
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Asked me to bring it back later.
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- How'd you two get along?
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- We weren't best friends.
She was my lawyer.
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- Where'd you go after
meeting with her?
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- Straight to the Papaya
King right around the corner.
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I was there till 8:00.
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Look into it.
- We will.
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- Look, she may have had clients
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who didn't appreciate
her, but not me.
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When I caught up to her,
she was on the phone
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talking to someone about
getting a protective order.
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She even joked with me about it.
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She said I don't have
anything to worry about.
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I'm not the guy she's scared of.
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- When was this?
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6:40, 6:45.
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- Only two detectives?
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If it was an ADA, how many
would be assigned? Ten?
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Plus the press conferences,
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commissioner, mayor,
district attorney.
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But a dead public
defender, who cares, right?
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- Well, I'm so happy you got
that off your chest, Manny.
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I hope you feel better.
- Just so you know,
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none of that is true.
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We investigate all
cases the same way.
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- So how can I help you?
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- We know Rachel
called you last night
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about a protective order.
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We just want to know
who she's afraid of.
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- She didn't say.
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She just wanted to
know if it would
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cast the office in a bad
light if one of its lawyers
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was getting a protective
order for herself.
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I told her if she needed
one, she should get one.
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- You know of any clients
she was having problems with?
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- Don't know the details,
but I heard her talking
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about a recent
murder sentencing.
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She said she was scared.
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Thought someone
was gonna kill her.
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Don't know if she
was joking or not.
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- Well, she wasn't.
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Do you have her calendar?
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- I subbed in for
the sentencing.
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Rafael Cortez.
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Triple homicide.
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A dispute over drug proceeds.
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Guidelines left
me no flexibility.
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- She have a problem
with her client?
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- Problem was with
her client's son.
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He tried attacking Rachel.
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Called her a stupid bitch.
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Said it was all her fault.
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Court officers had
to hold him back.
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- Is he in the system now?
- No.
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I would have held
him in contempt,
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but Rachel said the family
had been through enough.
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I shouldn't have
listened to her.
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- Yo, that's out!
That's out, bro!
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Let's go, baby!
You got it, fellas!
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- Yo, who's got next?
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- Luis Cortez, we need a word.
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- 5-0! 5-0!
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- Uh-uh.
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Almost.
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- I didn't do nothing.
- Yep.
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Why'd you run then?
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Give me your hand.
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Other hand.
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- I got a gun.
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And a knife.
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- I didn't do nothing!
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- Now what's at 713 Van
Brunt Street, Red Hook, huh?
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- That's Rachel
Bender's address.
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- Well, well, well,
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looks like we need to
have a conversation.
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Stand up.
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- What's with the arsenal?
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- Man's got a right
to protect himself.
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I got enemies.
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- Was Rachel Bender one of them?
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- It's that thing
in court, right?
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She should have made
my pops take a plea.
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He was gonna die in prison.
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- You have any contact with
Rachel after that incident?
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- No, but I saw my pops.
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He was pissed at me.
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Said I should apologize.
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Told me how much she
had done for him.
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I had her address 'cause I
sent roses to her apartment.
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Look it up.
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- Where were you last night?
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- Why? What's she saying?
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- Nothing.
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Somebody killed her.
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- No. No way.
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I was at my baby mama's
house in Bensonhurst, OK?
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- Not OK.
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First, we're gonna
check out your story.
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And then you're
gonna have to answer
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for this gun in your bag.
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- Luis Cortez's phone
puts him in Brooklyn
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at the time of Rachel's murder,
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but his knife is not
a match for the wound.
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- His credit card confirms
that he sent Rachel flowers
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to her apartment the day
before she was killed.
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- So back to the drawing board.
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- Well, we've been working our
way through Rachel's cases,
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and it seems like all of her
clients with an ax to grind
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are either in
prison or alibi out.
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- Anything back
from the crime lab?
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- No DNA found on Rachel,
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but they were able to
ID that shoe imprint
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we found in the mud
next to her wallet.
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- Size 11. Very
distinctive sole pattern.
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Pegs it as a Giovanni Presario.
High-end Italian loafer.
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- Narrows it a little bit.
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- Rachel's mom is here.
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Maybe she can help us
narrow it down even more.
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- Rachel was so brilliant.
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I told her for years
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she should get
paid for her smarts
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by being in private
practice, but...
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- We're very sorry for
your loss, Ms. Bender.
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And we really
appreciate you coming in
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on this difficult day.
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Do you know if Rachel
was dating anyone?
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- No, not seriously.
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- Did she ever mention anybody
she was having a problem with?
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- Like whom?
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- Her clients, for instance.
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- Well, they were all
problems. They were criminals.
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- We mean something irregular,
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like a threat or
a confrontation.
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- Yeah, she did tell me
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about an altercation
she had last Friday
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with a restaurant in The Village
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named Luchardi's.
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- Did she say with whom?
- No.
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But she was really shaken up.
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Said she was never going back.
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- Rachel was a regular.
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She always ordered
a caprese salad.
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- I understand there
was an incident with her
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last time she was in.
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- Yeah, it was nutty.
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Rachel was over by the bathroom.
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A guy is sitting,
drinking at the bar.
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He sees her. Starts screaming.
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- About what?
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- I didn't hear
the nitty gritty.
260
00:11:53,843 --> 00:11:55,149
I got between them
quick, though.
261
00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:56,498
I showed 'em the door.
262
00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:58,369
- He follow her?
- I couldn't tell you.
263
00:11:58,413 --> 00:11:59,675
I was short-staffed that day.
264
00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,111
I had a delivery to attend to.
265
00:12:01,155 --> 00:12:02,828
I didn't even know Rachel
was there until I saw her.
266
00:12:02,852 --> 00:12:04,985
- Do you remember the guy?
- Yeah.
267
00:12:05,028 --> 00:12:07,814
Scraggly hairs.
Big, white guy.
268
00:12:07,857 --> 00:12:09,487
- You think you could find
his credit card receipt?
269
00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:11,034
Maybe give us a name?
- Sure.
270
00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,823
- Adam Grassley?
- Yeah?
271
00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:18,278
- Mr. Grassley, we're
police detectives.
272
00:12:18,302 --> 00:12:20,348
May we come in and ask
you a few questions?
273
00:12:20,391 --> 00:12:22,480
- No.
274
00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:24,700
- OK, would you like
to step outside,
275
00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:26,484
and we can have a conversation?
276
00:12:26,528 --> 00:12:31,054
- Why don't you take your toy
badges and get off my porch?
277
00:12:32,055 --> 00:12:33,840
- Sir, have you been drinking?
278
00:12:33,883 --> 00:12:36,277
- It's a free country.
- Yes, it is.
279
00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,863
And that's why we're
gonna cut you some slack
280
00:12:37,887 --> 00:12:39,628
for getting so mouthy with us.
281
00:12:39,671 --> 00:12:41,282
We're just gonna ask
you a few questions.
282
00:12:41,325 --> 00:12:43,588
- You're gonna cut me slack?
283
00:12:43,632 --> 00:12:45,286
You guys are on my property...
- Easy.
284
00:12:45,329 --> 00:12:47,244
- And you're gonna
tell me what to do?
285
00:12:47,288 --> 00:12:48,202
- Easy, Grassley.
- Hey.
286
00:12:50,682 --> 00:12:51,814
I didn't do any...
287
00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:54,077
Get off of me!
- Hey.
288
00:12:54,121 --> 00:12:55,949
You wanted us off your property?
289
00:12:55,992 --> 00:12:58,386
It's your lucky day, buddy.
290
00:12:58,429 --> 00:13:00,257
You're coming with us.
291
00:13:01,389 --> 00:13:04,218
- What's your beef
with Rachel Bender?
292
00:13:04,261 --> 00:13:06,829
- So that's what this is
about, that piece of garbage?
293
00:13:06,873 --> 00:13:10,311
- Hey. You've had plenty
of time to sober up, buddy,
294
00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:13,749
so do yourself a favor
and answer our questions.
295
00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:21,017
- My 16-year-old daughter
was raped and murdered
296
00:13:21,061 --> 00:13:23,280
by one of her clients in July.
297
00:13:25,108 --> 00:13:28,155
And Bender got him
acquitted last week
298
00:13:28,198 --> 00:13:32,202
'cause of a warrantless
search by meathead cops.
299
00:13:34,248 --> 00:13:36,467
- That's terrible.
300
00:13:36,511 --> 00:13:37,904
I have a teenage
daughter myself.
301
00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:40,341
I can't imagine the pain
you're going through.
302
00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:42,952
I'm sorry for your loss.
303
00:13:44,171 --> 00:13:46,173
- I just wanted to
ask her, like, how...
304
00:13:48,915 --> 00:13:51,352
How do you represent
such a vile human being?
305
00:13:51,395 --> 00:13:53,745
She wouldn't answer my calls.
306
00:13:53,789 --> 00:13:55,573
Then I ran into her.
307
00:13:55,617 --> 00:13:57,401
- You have any
further interactions?
308
00:13:57,445 --> 00:13:58,794
- Why?
309
00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:00,970
- Someone killed her.
310
00:14:05,061 --> 00:14:07,716
- Is this where I'm supposed
to say karma's a bitch?
311
00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:10,458
No, I didn't do it.
312
00:14:10,501 --> 00:14:13,374
It's like I told her
boyfriend. I said my piece.
313
00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:14,679
- Boyfriend?
314
00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:16,812
When did you talk
to her boyfriend?
315
00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,640
- Luchardi's.
316
00:14:18,683 --> 00:14:20,685
Guy follows me into the street
317
00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:22,122
screaming at me to
leave her alone.
318
00:14:22,165 --> 00:14:24,864
Almost knocked his ass out too.
319
00:14:24,907 --> 00:14:26,561
But I didn't.
320
00:14:26,604 --> 00:14:29,477
Instead, I just went to
the bar across the street
321
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,306
and kept drinking.
322
00:14:39,313 --> 00:14:41,924
- Went through Rachel's emails
again, texts, phone calls.
323
00:14:41,968 --> 00:14:44,187
There's no sign she
was dating anyone.
324
00:14:44,231 --> 00:14:45,861
- Maybe the relationship
was on the down-low.
325
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,887
- Maybe the guy is married.
326
00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:50,672
- As for her dating pool, there
are 200 males at her office.
327
00:14:50,715 --> 00:14:52,500
Factor in full-timers
at the courthouse,
328
00:14:52,543 --> 00:14:53,675
guys who come in and out.
329
00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:55,111
- Jeez, we're gonna
need an abacus.
330
00:14:55,155 --> 00:14:57,089
- They had to be out and
about a little bit, right?
331
00:14:57,113 --> 00:14:59,289
- Vi, dig back into
Rachel's credit cards.
332
00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:03,641
Look for hotels, restaurants,
bed and breakfasts.
333
00:15:03,685 --> 00:15:05,600
- There's not too much.
334
00:15:05,643 --> 00:15:08,255
But there were three
charges last month
335
00:15:08,298 --> 00:15:11,606
from a cafรฉ in The
Village called Java Bliss.
336
00:15:11,649 --> 00:15:13,129
They were all before 6:30 a.m.
337
00:15:13,173 --> 00:15:15,262
And the last one was Saturday.
- For an espresso?
338
00:15:15,305 --> 00:15:17,264
That's a long way to go
for a girl from Red Hook.
339
00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:18,632
- You know, I don't
know about you guys,
340
00:15:18,656 --> 00:15:21,311
but if I end up in
a different borough
341
00:15:21,355 --> 00:15:24,706
stumbling into a coffee shop
at that time of the morning...
342
00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:25,663
- It's 'cause you've
just spent the night
343
00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:27,361
at someone's apartment.
344
00:15:27,404 --> 00:15:28,666
- Reach out to Java Bliss.
345
00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:30,886
See if they've got
security cameras.
346
00:15:36,587 --> 00:15:38,459
- We need to speak
to Judge Raymer.
347
00:15:38,502 --> 00:15:40,548
- He's busy.
348
00:15:40,591 --> 00:15:42,071
You can't go in there.
349
00:15:42,115 --> 00:15:43,855
- Francis versus Grace...
350
00:15:43,899 --> 00:15:45,770
What the hell are
you doing here?
351
00:15:45,814 --> 00:15:47,009
- Judge, we're executing
a search warrant.
352
00:15:47,033 --> 00:15:48,860
- I am in the middle
of a conference.
353
00:15:48,904 --> 00:15:51,124
- Well, your conference
is now continued.
354
00:15:51,167 --> 00:15:53,648
Gentlemen, if you please.
355
00:15:57,608 --> 00:15:59,828
- Rachel Bender?
Is this a joke?
356
00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:02,004
- It most certainly is not.
357
00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:03,963
- What's the probable cause?
358
00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:05,679
- We have an eyewitness
who works at a coffee shop
359
00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:09,011
near your home who places you
in the coffee shop Saturday
360
00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:10,708
having a heated
argument with Rachel
361
00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,232
because she wouldn't
take you back.
362
00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:15,017
- You need to get the
hell out of there now.
363
00:16:15,061 --> 00:16:16,932
- Judge?
364
00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,934
Is that a cut in
your right hand?
365
00:16:20,327 --> 00:16:22,111
- You have no idea
366
00:16:22,155 --> 00:16:24,026
the dimensions of the
mistake you're making.
367
00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:25,506
- We are making no mistakes.
368
00:16:25,549 --> 00:16:27,073
We just got a text
from a detective
369
00:16:27,116 --> 00:16:29,205
executing warrant at your house.
370
00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:33,296
They found a pair of size
11 Giovanni Presario loafers
371
00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:35,951
in your closet, mud
still on the sole.
372
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:38,388
Matches the footprint
at the crime scene.
373
00:16:39,781 --> 00:16:41,913
- Turn around.
- I'm not gonna turn around.
374
00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:44,264
You're seriously handcuffing
me in my chamber?
375
00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:46,005
- Hey!
376
00:16:46,048 --> 00:16:50,009
You are under arrest for
the murder of Rachel Bender.
377
00:16:58,147 --> 00:17:00,932
- I've been waiting 20
minutes for a cup of coffee.
378
00:17:00,976 --> 00:17:02,891
- Judge, you know
how this works.
379
00:17:02,934 --> 00:17:05,241
You've been in this
business a very long time,
380
00:17:05,285 --> 00:17:07,635
so we're gonna
shoot you straight.
381
00:17:07,678 --> 00:17:10,029
The evidence against
you is very strong.
382
00:17:10,071 --> 00:17:12,944
We got your fancy size 11
loafers at the crime scene.
383
00:17:12,988 --> 00:17:15,338
You got a cut on the
palm of your right hand,
384
00:17:15,382 --> 00:17:16,512
the stabbing hand.
385
00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,124
And a man matching
your description
386
00:17:18,166 --> 00:17:20,560
was seen arguing with our vic
387
00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,606
shortly before she was murdered.
388
00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,305
- Plus we have motive.
389
00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:29,570
The victim dumps your ass a few
days before she was murdered.
390
00:17:29,613 --> 00:17:31,963
- Get out ahead of this, Judge.
391
00:17:32,007 --> 00:17:34,575
Tell us your side of the story.
392
00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,753
You want me to confess.
393
00:17:38,796 --> 00:17:40,320
Please.
394
00:17:40,363 --> 00:17:42,800
I had nothing to do
with Rachel's death.
395
00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:44,715
So uncuff me right now,
396
00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:47,240
and I'll pretend that
this was nothing more
397
00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:49,416
than an ill-informed
error of judgment...
398
00:17:49,459 --> 00:17:53,028
A simple but stupid mistake.
399
00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:55,726
- That's not the
way to play this.
400
00:17:57,554 --> 00:17:59,426
Your Honor.
401
00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:06,259
- I want a lawyer now.
402
00:18:16,573 --> 00:18:18,401
- Judge Raymer?
403
00:18:18,445 --> 00:18:19,924
- Hard to believe, I know.
404
00:18:19,968 --> 00:18:21,448
- The facts say what they say.
405
00:18:21,491 --> 00:18:23,450
- No, I agree he's our man.
406
00:18:23,493 --> 00:18:25,930
But I reviewed the file.
407
00:18:25,974 --> 00:18:29,108
Evidence is solid, except
it's all circumstantial.
408
00:18:29,151 --> 00:18:32,023
Is there anyone else who
can help nail this down?
409
00:18:32,067 --> 00:18:34,243
Add some context to
Raymer's personality,
410
00:18:34,287 --> 00:18:36,376
or better yet, provide
some more evidence?
411
00:18:36,419 --> 00:18:37,681
- There may be.
412
00:18:37,725 --> 00:18:39,901
Raymer called his
law clerk at 5:40
413
00:18:39,944 --> 00:18:41,903
the night that
Rachel was killed.
414
00:18:41,946 --> 00:18:43,533
- That's less than two
hours before the murder.
415
00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:45,820
- Which is why we're on
our way to talk to him now.
416
00:18:45,863 --> 00:18:47,126
- I'm coming with you.
417
00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:50,129
- Are you sure about that?
418
00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:51,391
- I am.
419
00:18:55,786 --> 00:18:57,658
- No, that's impossible.
420
00:18:57,701 --> 00:18:59,399
Judge Raymer would
never hurt anybody.
421
00:18:59,442 --> 00:19:01,488
- We appreciate
your loyalty, Tyler.
422
00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:03,881
We just have a few questions,
and we'll be on our way.
423
00:19:03,925 --> 00:19:05,535
Did you know about
his relationship
424
00:19:05,579 --> 00:19:06,797
with Rachel Bender?
425
00:19:06,841 --> 00:19:08,103
- No.
426
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,887
- Why did Raymer
call you at 5:40
427
00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:11,628
the night Rachel was killed?
428
00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:12,934
- I was grabbing a slice
429
00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:14,892
across the street
from the courthouse.
430
00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:16,720
I drive the judge
to and from work.
431
00:19:16,764 --> 00:19:19,158
He wanted me to take him home.
432
00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:21,290
- Is that what you did?
- Yes.
433
00:19:21,334 --> 00:19:23,074
I drove him to his
place in The Village,
434
00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,902
then came up and
worked on an opinion.
435
00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:27,949
I was with him till about 9:00.
436
00:19:27,992 --> 00:19:29,385
- Wait, hold on.
437
00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:31,320
You're telling us that you
were at your boss' house
438
00:19:31,344 --> 00:19:33,737
for three hours
that night with him?
439
00:19:33,781 --> 00:19:35,217
- Yes.
440
00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:37,959
- Wow, your judge,
what a lucky guy.
441
00:19:38,002 --> 00:19:39,917
You just handed him
the perfect alibi.
442
00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:42,355
- Hey, guys, could
you give us a minute?
443
00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:51,102
Yeah, I was a clerk
back in the day.
444
00:19:51,146 --> 00:19:54,889
I know what your
boss means to you.
445
00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,934
- Judge Raymer is
a brilliant man.
446
00:19:56,978 --> 00:19:58,893
Is a good man.
- No.
447
00:19:58,936 --> 00:20:01,287
I felt the same way
about Judge Munson.
448
00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:04,246
And I wouldn't change that
experience for anything,
449
00:20:04,290 --> 00:20:06,553
even though the hours
were really long
450
00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:08,468
and I felt like an
indentured servant.
451
00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:13,081
Nothing's changed
in that regard.
452
00:20:13,124 --> 00:20:14,996
Trust me.
- No, I know.
453
00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,041
Some things will never
change, no matter what.
454
00:20:18,826 --> 00:20:20,262
But here's the thing, Tyler.
455
00:20:20,306 --> 00:20:25,093
Indentured servants don't
socialize with their bosses.
456
00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:27,138
Excuse me?
457
00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:29,445
- You lied about being
with Judge Raymer
458
00:20:29,489 --> 00:20:32,318
at his place on the
night Rachel was killed.
459
00:20:34,145 --> 00:20:37,323
Did you know they were dating?
460
00:20:37,366 --> 00:20:39,150
- I suspected.
461
00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:42,502
She came by the chambers a lot.
462
00:20:42,545 --> 00:20:45,853
And then last week, I
heard raised voices.
463
00:20:46,984 --> 00:20:50,074
She dumped him.
464
00:20:50,118 --> 00:20:53,034
- And where did you
drop him that night?
465
00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:56,037
- Public defender's office.
466
00:20:57,821 --> 00:20:59,040
- Why?
467
00:20:59,083 --> 00:21:01,999
- Because he said
he had business.
468
00:21:02,043 --> 00:21:05,307
I know he had a
contentious divorce, right?
469
00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:08,223
But he would never
hurt Rachel, OK?
470
00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,877
That's not who he is.
471
00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:20,844
- I already spoke
to the detectives.
472
00:21:20,888 --> 00:21:24,152
My ex-husband is a powerful man.
473
00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:27,155
I'm not comfortable saying
anything else about him.
474
00:21:27,198 --> 00:21:30,332
- Respectfully, Ms. Raymer,
he's on trial for murder.
475
00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:34,162
Your comfort is not
our chief concern.
476
00:21:34,205 --> 00:21:37,121
- You filed a restraining
order against him.
477
00:21:37,165 --> 00:21:40,299
Why don't you tell us
what your ex-husband did?
478
00:21:42,388 --> 00:21:47,131
- What he did was stalk
me after I moved out.
479
00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:48,219
Hit me.
480
00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:52,615
Said if I left him,
he would kill me.
481
00:21:53,747 --> 00:21:56,402
- Well, then why did you
decide not to pursue charges?
482
00:21:56,445 --> 00:21:57,577
- He's a judge.
483
00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,970
It would have been
my word against his.
484
00:22:00,014 --> 00:22:03,409
Plus, there's no alimony
if your ex is behind bars.
485
00:22:03,452 --> 00:22:05,454
If I testify against him...
486
00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:09,850
- Ms. Raymer, a woman is dead.
487
00:22:09,893 --> 00:22:11,765
And he has to be
held responsible.
488
00:22:11,808 --> 00:22:14,376
So we are gonna subpoena you.
489
00:22:14,420 --> 00:22:16,291
And if you won't testify,
490
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,554
I will seek to hold
you in contempt.
491
00:22:18,598 --> 00:22:19,903
Do you understand?
492
00:22:25,605 --> 00:22:27,084
- Mr. Price is attempting
493
00:22:27,128 --> 00:22:29,913
to introduce Ms. Raymer's
testimony as a prior bad act.
494
00:22:29,957 --> 00:22:31,393
- Goes to pattern, Your Honor.
495
00:22:31,437 --> 00:22:32,873
- There is no pattern.
496
00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:35,832
Ms. Raymer is not dead.
- Judge, please.
497
00:22:35,876 --> 00:22:37,617
- Can we call this
for what it is:
498
00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:41,055
a shameless ploy to poison
the jury against my client
499
00:22:41,098 --> 00:22:43,100
to cover for the prosecution's
lack of evidence?
500
00:22:43,144 --> 00:22:45,233
- The defendant's penchant
for stalking women
501
00:22:45,276 --> 00:22:47,409
and committing acts of
violence is highly relevant
502
00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:49,063
to this trial.
- Enough.
503
00:22:49,106 --> 00:22:51,544
The probative value of
the testimony sought here
504
00:22:51,587 --> 00:22:55,025
is clearly outweighed by
its prejudicial impact.
505
00:22:55,069 --> 00:22:56,418
I'm precluding it.
506
00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:59,160
Anything else, Mr. Price?
507
00:23:00,683 --> 00:23:05,906
Mr. Price, do you mind telling
me what you're staring at?
508
00:23:05,949 --> 00:23:09,126
- A photo of you
and the defendant.
509
00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:10,824
- Yes. We went to
Harvard together.
510
00:23:10,867 --> 00:23:12,129
- I knew that.
511
00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:16,482
I just didn't realize
how close you were.
512
00:23:16,525 --> 00:23:20,573
- Is there something you'd
like to say, Counselor?
513
00:23:20,616 --> 00:23:23,314
- Yes, respectfully,
514
00:23:23,358 --> 00:23:25,926
the victim's family
and the press
515
00:23:25,969 --> 00:23:28,450
could misconstrue
516
00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:31,192
your relationship
with the defendant.
517
00:23:31,235 --> 00:23:33,324
And the people have no choice
518
00:23:33,368 --> 00:23:37,590
but to move for your immediate
recusal in this matter.
519
00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:38,982
- We oppose.
520
00:23:39,026 --> 00:23:41,245
This is a bald-faced
attempt at judge-shopping.
521
00:23:41,289 --> 00:23:43,204
- No, it's worse than that.
522
00:23:43,247 --> 00:23:47,077
It's an unfounded attack on
the integrity of my courtroom.
523
00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:48,992
And I won't stand for it.
524
00:23:49,036 --> 00:23:50,167
Motion denied.
525
00:23:50,211 --> 00:23:52,953
- Judge Benning...
- Denied.
526
00:23:52,996 --> 00:23:55,477
Openings tomorrow, 9:00 a.m.
527
00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:57,479
Goodbye, Mr. Price.
528
00:23:57,523 --> 00:24:00,047
- Thank you, Judge.
- Thank you, Judge.
529
00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:09,535
- Judges have an immense amount
of power in the courtroom.
530
00:24:09,578 --> 00:24:12,581
Outside of the courtroom,
that power is circumscribed,
531
00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:15,497
like it is for every one of us.
532
00:24:15,541 --> 00:24:18,413
This is a story
533
00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:23,331
of a judge who would
not accept those limits.
534
00:24:23,374 --> 00:24:26,290
The evidence will
show that the victim
535
00:24:26,334 --> 00:24:29,032
ended her relationship
with the defendant,
536
00:24:29,076 --> 00:24:32,253
rejected his desperate
attempt to reconcile,
537
00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:37,388
and so, he hunted her down
and stabbed her to death
538
00:24:37,432 --> 00:24:43,960
in a brutal and deranged
exercise of power
539
00:24:44,004 --> 00:24:47,311
and one he has to answer for.
540
00:24:48,661 --> 00:24:52,273
- This case is about power...
541
00:24:52,316 --> 00:24:55,406
The prosecution's abuse of it.
542
00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:58,148
Because Mr. Price is
twisting a simple breakup
543
00:24:58,192 --> 00:25:00,542
into a fantasy of murder.
544
00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:02,979
Why do this on what
will become clear
545
00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:05,721
is a flimsy
evidentiary foundation
546
00:25:05,765 --> 00:25:08,550
to eliminate an enemy...
547
00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,509
Mr. Price's enemy?
548
00:25:10,552 --> 00:25:13,337
Because Mr. Price has
been on the wrong end
549
00:25:13,381 --> 00:25:16,210
of Judge Raymer's
rulings over and over.
550
00:25:16,253 --> 00:25:18,473
- Objection. Foundation.
Move to strike.
551
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,171
- Overruled. Sit
down, Mr. Price.
552
00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:23,565
And don't interrupt again.
553
00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:26,916
- At the end of the
prosecution's so-called case,
554
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,179
I will ask you to
send a message:
555
00:25:29,223 --> 00:25:31,573
that the judiciary
is independent
556
00:25:31,617 --> 00:25:33,227
and can't be intimidated.
557
00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:36,578
I will ask you to
acquit Judge Raymer
558
00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:39,450
of this baseless charge.
559
00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:45,631
- I manufactured the case
to eliminate an enemy?
560
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:49,330
It's offensive on its
face and sanctionable.
561
00:25:49,373 --> 00:25:51,985
- So then there's no truth
to Strawn's contention
562
00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:53,552
that you've been
on the losing side
563
00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,902
of a majority of
Raymer's rulings?
564
00:25:55,945 --> 00:25:57,512
- Well, of course there is,
565
00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:00,384
like every other
prosecutor in the building.
566
00:26:00,428 --> 00:26:03,039
Raymer is notoriously
pro-defense.
567
00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:04,737
- Then the defendant is entitled
568
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:08,610
to make the argument that
Raymer's bias stoked yours.
569
00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:12,614
Speaking of Benning's
bias, if you'd asked me,
570
00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:16,400
I would have argued against
that motion to recuse.
571
00:26:16,444 --> 00:26:18,707
- He's compromised,
Jack, and his prejudice
572
00:26:18,751 --> 00:26:21,318
will manifest itself
in ways big and small
573
00:26:21,362 --> 00:26:23,494
throughout the trial,
even if it's unconscious.
574
00:26:23,538 --> 00:26:27,150
- Maybe, but you're
seasoned enough
575
00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:30,066
to know that any judge who
admits to being partial
576
00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:32,460
is acknowledging his failings.
577
00:26:32,503 --> 00:26:34,462
Your motion didn't
stand a chance.
578
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:37,944
All it did was infuriate him.
579
00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:41,208
- Defense counsel suggested
I'm framing his client.
580
00:26:41,251 --> 00:26:43,645
The trial judge is pals
with the defendant.
581
00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:47,649
I think I was expecting you to
share in a bit of my outrage.
582
00:26:47,693 --> 00:26:50,652
- Our outrage isn't gonna
convince the jury of anything.
583
00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:52,480
Feeding them evidence is.
584
00:26:52,523 --> 00:26:55,048
I suggest you focus
your energies on that.
585
00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:04,884
- At some point, Mr. Minter,
did you become aware
586
00:27:04,927 --> 00:27:06,165
that the defendant
and Ms. Bender
587
00:27:06,189 --> 00:27:09,062
were engaged in a relationship?
- Yes.
588
00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:10,977
- When did you
become aware of that?
589
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,109
- When I overheard them
talking in chambers.
590
00:27:13,153 --> 00:27:15,764
- And what was the substance
of their conversation?
591
00:27:15,808 --> 00:27:18,506
- It was about...
592
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,899
the relationship.
593
00:27:19,942 --> 00:27:21,683
- Mm-hmm.
594
00:27:21,727 --> 00:27:24,817
Do you recall overhearing
that Miss Bender wanted
595
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,862
to end that relationship?
596
00:27:30,431 --> 00:27:33,564
- I don't remember
overhearing that.
597
00:27:35,088 --> 00:27:38,395
- What do you
remember overhearing?
598
00:27:38,439 --> 00:27:39,614
- Not much.
599
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:41,181
The walls are thick.
600
00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:42,661
- Well, which is
it, Mr. Minter?
601
00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,682
You don't remember the
victim telling the defendant
602
00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:48,014
she wanted to break up, or
you couldn't hear the victim
603
00:27:48,057 --> 00:27:50,016
telling the defendant
she wanted to break up?
604
00:27:50,059 --> 00:27:52,671
- Both, I guess.
605
00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:58,633
- Did you or did
you not inform me
606
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:01,592
that you heard the victim
break up with the defendant?
607
00:28:01,636 --> 00:28:04,073
- I said no such thing.
608
00:28:06,206 --> 00:28:07,903
- All right. Let's move on.
609
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,082
Did you drop the defendant off
outside Ms. Bender's office
610
00:28:13,126 --> 00:28:16,651
shortly before she
was stabbed to death?
611
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,392
- No, I dropped him
off at his apartment
612
00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:20,263
and worked on a case
with him for three hours.
613
00:28:20,307 --> 00:28:23,484
- You told me you
dropped the defendant off
614
00:28:23,527 --> 00:28:25,399
outside Ms. Bender's
place of work
615
00:28:25,442 --> 00:28:27,749
shortly before she
was killed, correct?
616
00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:29,359
- I don't recall.
617
00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:31,492
- Mr. Minter, did you
discuss your testimony
618
00:28:31,535 --> 00:28:34,060
with the defendant in advance
of your appearance here today?
619
00:28:34,103 --> 00:28:35,409
- No.
- Yet suddenly,
620
00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,890
you are contradicting
everything you told me?
621
00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:39,041
- That's not true.
- All right.
622
00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:40,390
Will the court please
remind Mr. Minter
623
00:28:40,414 --> 00:28:43,069
that he is testifying
under penalty of perjury?
624
00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:44,418
- Objection.
625
00:28:44,461 --> 00:28:46,637
Asked and answered. Badgering.
626
00:28:46,681 --> 00:28:49,292
If the prosecution doesn't
like Mr. Minter's testimony,
627
00:28:49,336 --> 00:28:51,381
they shouldn't have called him.
- Sustained.
628
00:28:51,425 --> 00:28:54,080
The witness' testimony is clear.
629
00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:55,777
You're done here, Mr. Price.
630
00:28:55,821 --> 00:28:58,171
Your witness, Mr. Strawn.
631
00:28:58,214 --> 00:29:01,435
- We have nothing,
Judge Benning.
632
00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:11,619
- You were right.
633
00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:13,926
Raymer clearly had
a chat with Minter.
634
00:29:13,969 --> 00:29:15,449
Called him early this morning.
635
00:29:15,492 --> 00:29:18,234
Conversation lasted
an hour and a half.
636
00:29:18,278 --> 00:29:19,975
- Kid's always been shaky.
637
00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:21,803
- Well, we can open a
perjury investigation.
638
00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:24,197
- No, there's no point.
We couldn't prove it.
639
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,160
And even if we could, he's
been completely burned
640
00:29:26,199 --> 00:29:27,722
as a witness.
641
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:30,420
- Nolan Price?
- Yes.
642
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:33,989
Thank you.
643
00:29:35,948 --> 00:29:37,123
- What's that?
644
00:29:38,472 --> 00:29:41,997
- It's a subpoena
for my testimony.
645
00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:45,784
- I discovered
the victim's body.
646
00:29:45,827 --> 00:29:47,960
The defense is entitled
to inquire about that
647
00:29:48,003 --> 00:29:49,178
and nothing else.
648
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:50,745
- Says Mr. Price.
649
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:52,094
We're entitled to inquire
650
00:29:52,138 --> 00:29:54,183
about his private
conversation with Mr. Minter.
651
00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:55,837
- It's called
interviewing a witness.
652
00:29:55,881 --> 00:29:57,665
- Yes, with no one else present
653
00:29:57,708 --> 00:29:59,885
and referencing that
conversation repeatedly
654
00:29:59,928 --> 00:30:01,625
during Mr. Minter's
questioning.
655
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:03,469
- You could have objected
to those references.
656
00:30:03,497 --> 00:30:04,541
You did not.
657
00:30:04,585 --> 00:30:06,674
- But it's part
of the record now,
658
00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:08,589
making you a party
to a conversation
659
00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:10,765
that is central to the
outcome of this case,
660
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:12,593
whether you like it or not.
- Your Honor...
661
00:30:12,636 --> 00:30:14,334
- As someone who is so concerned
662
00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:16,205
with the appearance
of impropriety,
663
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:17,816
Mr. Price, you, of all people,
664
00:30:17,859 --> 00:30:20,514
should know that it would
be highly improper of me
665
00:30:20,557 --> 00:30:22,298
to deprive the defense
the opportunity
666
00:30:22,342 --> 00:30:25,301
to impeach your testimony.
667
00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:27,564
Mr. Price will take the stand.
668
00:30:32,047 --> 00:30:35,224
- Mr. Price, how often have you
appeared before Judge Raymer?
669
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,009
- Perhaps a half dozen times.
670
00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:38,837
- Eight, actually.
671
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,143
And you've lost three
of those cases, right?
672
00:30:41,187 --> 00:30:44,190
- Yes, but they
were jury verdicts.
673
00:30:44,233 --> 00:30:45,539
- Each of which involved
674
00:30:45,582 --> 00:30:48,585
numerous motions crucial
to the case's outcome...
675
00:30:48,629 --> 00:30:49,891
Motions you lost.
676
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,284
- Objection. Relevance.
677
00:30:51,327 --> 00:30:52,894
- Make your point, Mr. Strawn.
678
00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:56,245
- You dislike appearing
before Judge Raymer.
679
00:30:56,289 --> 00:31:00,902
- No, I have no animus towards
Judge Raymer as a judge.
680
00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:04,732
I do, however, despise
him for the heinous act
681
00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:06,777
the evidence establishes
he committed.
682
00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:09,476
- You and the victim,
Rachel Bender,
683
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,521
were colleagues at the
public defender's office
684
00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:13,915
for three years.
- Yes.
685
00:31:13,959 --> 00:31:15,090
- At the time of her death,
686
00:31:15,134 --> 00:31:16,700
were you two
romantically involved?
687
00:31:16,744 --> 00:31:18,398
- No.
- Objection. Relevance.
688
00:31:18,441 --> 00:31:19,921
- A little latitude, Judge.
689
00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:22,228
- I'll allow it.
690
00:31:22,271 --> 00:31:24,926
- I'd like to offer
the following photo
691
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:27,624
as defense exhibit 34.
692
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:37,373
- Judge, may we approach?
693
00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:44,598
Mr. Price's past
relationship with the victim
694
00:31:44,641 --> 00:31:47,122
has absolutely nothing
to do with this case.
695
00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:48,384
- But it has everything to do
696
00:31:48,428 --> 00:31:50,604
with his decision
to bring this case.
697
00:31:50,647 --> 00:31:52,693
Mr. Price's relationship
with Ms. Bender
698
00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:55,391
establishes prosecutorial
overreach and bias.
699
00:31:55,435 --> 00:31:56,958
- I'll allow it. Step back.
700
00:31:57,002 --> 00:32:00,179
- Judge...
- Ms. Maroun, step back.
701
00:32:00,222 --> 00:32:03,399
Mark it as defense exhibit 34.
702
00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:04,835
You can put it up.
703
00:32:08,404 --> 00:32:11,668
- Mr. Price, can you tell
us what this photo depicts?
704
00:32:11,712 --> 00:32:13,366
- It's an office holiday party.
705
00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:15,846
I think it was 2012.
706
00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:19,633
- It's a photo of you
kissing Rachel Bender, right?
707
00:32:19,676 --> 00:32:20,721
- That's correct.
708
00:32:20,764 --> 00:32:22,679
- So let me rephrase
my question.
709
00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:26,205
Did you ever have a romantic
relationship with Ms. Bender?
710
00:32:26,248 --> 00:32:28,207
- A brief one. Decade ago.
711
00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:30,035
- But you still
loved her, correct?
712
00:32:30,078 --> 00:32:33,995
- No, I was never
in love with her.
713
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,563
- And you hated the fact
Judge Raymer was dating her.
714
00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:38,130
- Objection. This
is preposterous.
715
00:32:38,173 --> 00:32:39,740
- Overruled.
716
00:32:39,783 --> 00:32:42,525
- There were no witnesses to
Ms. Bender's killing, correct?
717
00:32:42,569 --> 00:32:44,179
- None that we've located.
718
00:32:44,223 --> 00:32:45,765
- But you're the one
that found the body.
719
00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:50,533
Your fingerprints were
on her driver's license.
720
00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:51,684
How do we know you
didn't kill her?
721
00:32:51,708 --> 00:32:53,014
- Objection.
- How do we know
722
00:32:53,058 --> 00:32:55,147
this entire trial
isn't a frame job
723
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:56,800
by a jealous man
who killed the lover
724
00:32:56,844 --> 00:32:58,846
he was still obsessed with?
- Judge, please.
725
00:32:58,889 --> 00:33:00,737
- And the man you're framing
was also ruling against you
726
00:33:00,761 --> 00:33:02,217
in case after case... A
two-for-one deal, right?
727
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:03,372
- Objection.
728
00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:06,288
- Sustained.
Enough, Mr. Strawn.
729
00:33:06,332 --> 00:33:07,942
- Nothing further.
730
00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:23,697
- You think it might
have dawned on you
731
00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:25,370
to inform co-counsel the
victim was an ex-girlfriend?
732
00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:29,442
- It was a casual thing, Sam.
It was more than a decade ago.
733
00:33:29,485 --> 00:33:32,619
- You went after Benning
because he's Raymer's friend.
734
00:33:32,662 --> 00:33:34,621
You are just as
compromised as he is.
735
00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:39,104
- Look, I am sorry I didn't
bring you into the loop,
736
00:33:39,147 --> 00:33:41,584
but it was irrelevant.
737
00:33:41,628 --> 00:33:45,849
- Well, that may be true,
but we're on life support.
738
00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:47,938
I mean, the jury may not believe
739
00:33:47,982 --> 00:33:49,133
you framed Raymer
for the murder,
740
00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:51,333
but they could believe
you overreached,
741
00:33:51,377 --> 00:33:54,641
that you are not
seeing things clearly.
742
00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,121
We need more evidence.
743
00:33:56,164 --> 00:33:57,687
- I agree.
744
00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:03,911
Maybe we take another
run at Tyler Minter.
745
00:34:03,954 --> 00:34:05,434
- His testimony is useless.
746
00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:07,001
You said it yourself.
- I know.
747
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:11,397
But he seems to know more
about Raymer than anybody else.
748
00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:21,407
- I'm not talking.
749
00:34:21,449 --> 00:34:22,973
I believe in Judge
Raymer's innocence.
750
00:34:23,016 --> 00:34:24,603
He's gonna be acquitted, and
he'll be back on the bench
751
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:26,672
in a week.
- I understand the sentiment.
752
00:34:26,716 --> 00:34:31,721
But you will have to
pay a price for it.
753
00:34:31,764 --> 00:34:33,201
- Excuse me?
754
00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:34,874
- You're still relatively
new to the legal profession,
755
00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:35,943
so let me educate you.
756
00:34:35,985 --> 00:34:37,771
This is a murder trial,
757
00:34:37,813 --> 00:34:41,992
and you lied on the stand.
758
00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:44,038
I can't allow that
to go unchecked.
759
00:34:44,081 --> 00:34:48,998
- Y-you're gonna indict me?
760
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,001
You'll never prove it.
761
00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:53,786
- Maybe.
762
00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:58,139
But are you really
willing to take that risk?
763
00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:01,055
- Tyler, if you
don't talk to us,
764
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,405
you're gonna force our hand.
765
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:14,677
- You told me you didn't know
766
00:35:14,721 --> 00:35:16,418
why Judge Raymer wanted
to be dropped off
767
00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:17,724
at the public defender's office
768
00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:21,423
on the day that
Rachel was killed.
769
00:35:21,467 --> 00:35:23,295
That's not true, is it?
770
00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:30,171
The judge...
771
00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:34,828
He bought a diamond ring.
772
00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:37,309
He was gonna propose
to her in Dewey Park.
773
00:35:37,352 --> 00:35:40,747
It's a block from the
public defender's office.
774
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:44,620
It's where they had
their first date.
775
00:35:44,664 --> 00:35:45,839
Can I go?
776
00:35:52,889 --> 00:35:55,457
- So we got the proposal.
777
00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,459
- Problem is what comes next.
778
00:35:57,503 --> 00:36:00,723
The street vendor stops his
cart right in front of them.
779
00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:02,160
Obstructs the view.
780
00:36:05,598 --> 00:36:07,817
- By the time the
cart moves again,
781
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:09,776
Raymer is storming off.
782
00:36:09,819 --> 00:36:13,127
- So Raymer thinks he can get
her back by proposing to her.
783
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:14,694
She turns him down flat.
784
00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:16,261
- He stews over it.
785
00:36:16,304 --> 00:36:18,872
An hour later, she's
dead two blocks away.
786
00:36:18,915 --> 00:36:21,614
- But there is a guy
standing right behind him.
787
00:36:21,657 --> 00:36:23,442
He had to have seen
the whole thing.
788
00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:25,748
- Yeah, maybe he can
provide some context
789
00:36:25,792 --> 00:36:27,446
and fill in some of
the gaps for the jury.
790
00:36:27,489 --> 00:36:28,882
- Can you zoom in on his jacket?
791
00:36:34,931 --> 00:36:37,456
- Yeah, I was on my
break having a smoke.
792
00:36:37,499 --> 00:36:38,935
Saw the guy flame out.
793
00:36:38,979 --> 00:36:41,416
- Can you run through
what you saw, Drew?
794
00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:44,071
- It was pretty quick.
He got down on one knee.
795
00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:46,247
She said, sorry,
but it was over.
796
00:36:46,291 --> 00:36:48,249
He gets up. Starts
screaming at her.
797
00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:49,642
- Anything else?
798
00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:52,079
- Yeah, the last thing
he said stuck with me.
799
00:36:52,122 --> 00:36:53,907
He said she would be sorry.
800
00:36:53,950 --> 00:36:55,778
Told her he was gonna get her.
801
00:36:57,258 --> 00:36:59,173
- I appreciate you, brother.
802
00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,480
We'll be in touch.
- Sure thing.
803
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:05,310
Yo, the guy was a real prick.
- Mm.
804
00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:10,576
- How's the doorman's
trial prep going?
805
00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:13,187
- Afraid we've hit a snag.
806
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,319
- What do you mean?
807
00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:15,711
- He's got a prior conviction
808
00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,192
for harassing an ex-girlfriend.
809
00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,281
Pled guilty in 2015.
810
00:37:20,325 --> 00:37:22,936
The defense could spin
this to its advantage
811
00:37:22,979 --> 00:37:25,852
and turn him into an
obsessive predator
812
00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:27,786
who met the victim right
before she was murdered.
813
00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:31,031
Make it look like
he's the killer.
814
00:37:33,555 --> 00:37:35,601
Not if we don't use him.
815
00:37:35,644 --> 00:37:38,952
Look, the Java Bliss barista.
816
00:37:38,995 --> 00:37:41,302
Plus, we have the cut
on Raymer's right palm
817
00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:42,695
and his shoes at
the crime scene.
818
00:37:42,738 --> 00:37:44,020
And the jury will
put it together.
819
00:37:44,044 --> 00:37:46,655
- But we still have to
turn over information
820
00:37:46,699 --> 00:37:48,222
about Drew to the defense.
821
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,790
- It's not our job to
present alternative theories
822
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:51,965
to the defense.
823
00:37:52,008 --> 00:37:54,446
- No, but it is our job
824
00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:56,317
to turn over
exculpatory evidence.
825
00:37:56,361 --> 00:37:59,320
- You really think that there
is a reasonable probability
826
00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:02,715
that this information would
result in a different verdict?
827
00:38:02,758 --> 00:38:06,588
- Is that opinion based on
your legal interpretation
828
00:38:06,632 --> 00:38:11,027
or your desire to get
justice for your friend?
829
00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:12,115
- Both.
830
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,247
- Well, what would you say
831
00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:14,814
if you were still
a defense attorney?
832
00:38:18,078 --> 00:38:21,211
- It doesn't matter.
833
00:38:21,255 --> 00:38:22,691
I'm a prosecutor.
834
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:31,526
It's my call, Sam.
835
00:38:46,019 --> 00:38:47,716
- Thank you, Hannah.
836
00:38:55,202 --> 00:38:56,812
Any word on the jury?
837
00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:59,989
- No. It's been two days, so...
838
00:39:00,033 --> 00:39:02,514
- I just hope your
passion for the victim
839
00:39:02,557 --> 00:39:05,952
doesn't cloud their
assessment of the facts.
840
00:39:05,995 --> 00:39:09,259
- I did what I thought
was right for the case
841
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:11,610
and for Rachel's family.
842
00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:13,960
- Winning the case
is what's right.
843
00:39:14,003 --> 00:39:18,138
And we have 20 other
homicide prosecutors here
844
00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:19,139
who could have handled...
845
00:39:19,182 --> 00:39:20,880
- But I'm the best.
846
00:39:20,923 --> 00:39:23,099
And you know it.
847
00:39:23,143 --> 00:39:26,407
- What you are is compromised.
848
00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:31,020
If I had known you
found the victim's body
849
00:39:31,064 --> 00:39:32,631
and you slept with her,
850
00:39:32,674 --> 00:39:35,982
I wouldn't have let you
within a time zone of this!
851
00:39:36,025 --> 00:39:37,810
- I took this on because
852
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:41,944
I thought I could maximize
the chance of a conviction.
853
00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:46,384
- Because you cared so
deeply for the victim.
854
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:47,907
- Correct.
855
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:50,213
- I rest my case.
856
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:56,437
- Jury's back.
857
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:10,495
- Counsel, please rise.
858
00:40:13,585 --> 00:40:15,108
Madam foreperson,
859
00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:17,806
in the matter of the people
versus Ephraim Raymer,
860
00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:19,460
has the jury reached a verdict?
861
00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:21,027
- We have, Your Honor.
862
00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:23,159
- On the sole count of
murder in the second degree,
863
00:40:23,203 --> 00:40:24,596
how do you find?
864
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,947
- We find the defendant guilty.
865
00:40:30,645 --> 00:40:32,081
- Ladies and
gentlemen of the jury,
866
00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:33,189
thank you for your service.
867
00:40:33,213 --> 00:40:36,085
Court is adjourned.
868
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:51,187
- Nice work, Sam.
869
00:40:51,231 --> 00:40:54,234
- We did what we had to do.
870
00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:57,367
Just hope your friend,
Rachel, wasn't looking down.
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