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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:43,626 What do you do to deal with stress? 2 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:46,838 We got a pill that's gonna take care of it in five minutes. 3 00:00:46,921 --> 00:00:49,466 What exactly does it do? How does it make you feel? 4 00:00:49,549 --> 00:00:51,384 It takes the edge off for millions. 5 00:00:51,468 --> 00:00:55,388 I keep my Xanax with me all the time. It's in my bag right now, actually. 6 00:00:55,472 --> 00:00:59,392 I knew I always had that magic bullet. I have figured out a system that works. 7 00:00:59,476 --> 00:01:02,353 The fastest thing to do when somebody says, 8 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:04,564 "I'm stressed out. I'm not sleeping well," 9 00:01:04,647 --> 00:01:06,566 it's "Take this pill. It'll help you sleep." 10 00:01:06,649 --> 00:01:08,610 "This'll keep you calm. Goodbye." 11 00:01:08,693 --> 00:01:10,987 There has been a Xanax explosion. 12 00:01:11,071 --> 00:01:13,865 Prescriptions have skyrocketed in the last two decades. 13 00:01:13,948 --> 00:01:16,659 Roughly one in eight American adults use them. 14 00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:18,578 That's a lot of prescriptions. 15 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:21,164 It's kind of always been around, to be honest. 16 00:01:21,247 --> 00:01:22,665 You can always ask a friend, 17 00:01:22,749 --> 00:01:25,168 "Do you have Xanax or do know somebody who has Xanax?" 18 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:27,670 Is it because we are more anxious as a nation? 19 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:28,838 Are we more aware? 20 00:01:28,922 --> 00:01:31,716 Or is it because there are more drugs available? 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,345 Anxiety is an alarm saying something is wrong. 22 00:01:35,428 --> 00:01:36,930 Something's very wrong right now. 23 00:01:37,013 --> 00:01:40,016 To our brains and bodies, we're not ever taking a break. 24 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:42,644 We're basically working all the time. 25 00:01:43,228 --> 00:01:46,022 A half a Xanax is kind of where I would like to live. 26 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:48,233 That's the mellow that I perceive 27 00:01:48,316 --> 00:01:50,527 that everybody else is operating at. 28 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:52,487 Wait. Hang on. It's Xanax o'clock. 29 00:01:53,404 --> 00:01:57,242 A pill is a really simple solution 30 00:01:57,325 --> 00:02:01,663 that we have created this whole infrastructure to promote. 31 00:02:01,746 --> 00:02:04,624 But now doctors are warning they're more addictive and dangerous 32 00:02:04,707 --> 00:02:05,542 than people think. 33 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:07,836 The first time I took it, 34 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:11,548 I said, "Oh, I understand why people get addicted to this." 35 00:02:13,299 --> 00:02:15,677 I need to be careful with this one, definitely. 36 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,387 Knowing what I know now, 37 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,765 I would never have taken that first prescription. 38 00:02:21,349 --> 00:02:22,225 Never. 39 00:02:22,308 --> 00:02:25,228 You go to a doctor, and you expect to be helped, 40 00:02:25,311 --> 00:02:28,064 what you don't realize is that if your problems didn't scare you, 41 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:29,607 wait till you see our solutions. 42 00:02:29,691 --> 00:02:31,568 We're stuck in this old story, 43 00:02:31,651 --> 00:02:33,278 fixing something that's broken 44 00:02:33,361 --> 00:02:35,989 instead of building resilience against it in the first place. 45 00:02:41,536 --> 00:02:45,290 One of the things that's unique about modern life 46 00:02:45,373 --> 00:02:49,419 is how much we spend our lives in our heads. 47 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:53,798 I mean, our lives really are now conducted largely, 48 00:02:53,882 --> 00:02:56,676 you know, in this space between our ears. 49 00:02:56,759 --> 00:03:01,014 We're not running away from tigers. In some ways, that'd be much simpler. 50 00:03:01,097 --> 00:03:04,642 And 2,000 years ago, what was the main means of transportation? 51 00:03:04,726 --> 00:03:06,394 - Fear. - Fear? 52 00:03:06,477 --> 00:03:08,605 An animal would growl and give your leg a bite. 53 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:10,023 You'd run a mile in a minute. 54 00:03:10,106 --> 00:03:12,233 - So fear transported... - Fear kept you moving. 55 00:03:12,317 --> 00:03:13,693 - I see. - Fear kept you going. 56 00:03:13,776 --> 00:03:16,571 When we're anxious, what's happening in our body is very similar 57 00:03:16,654 --> 00:03:18,239 to what's happening when we're fearful. 58 00:03:19,324 --> 00:03:23,244 Most every brain of humans and primates and mammals, 59 00:03:23,328 --> 00:03:26,998 and even reptiles, has a fear center, and it's called the amygdala. 60 00:03:27,498 --> 00:03:30,084 In humans, there's two of them. They're symmetrical, 61 00:03:30,168 --> 00:03:33,296 they're kind of in the middle, they're shaped a little like almonds. 62 00:03:33,379 --> 00:03:38,384 The amygdala fires if there's anything to be nervous about or fearful about. 63 00:03:38,468 --> 00:03:40,303 It's that fight-flight response. 64 00:03:40,386 --> 00:03:44,766 So that's our sympathetic nervous system preparing us for action. 65 00:03:44,849 --> 00:03:48,895 Our blood is pumping, our heart is racing, our muscles are activated. 66 00:03:48,978 --> 00:03:52,106 Anxiety is actually a form of energy. 67 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:57,528 And energy, if appropriately channeled, is... can be a really positive thing. 68 00:03:57,612 --> 00:04:02,200 It actually energizes us to achieve, to accomplish. 69 00:04:02,992 --> 00:04:07,622 We become smarter, more focused, more driven, more ambitious, more hopeful, 70 00:04:08,122 --> 00:04:09,958 if we have that right amount of anxiety 71 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:12,460 that we can accept and engage with in our lives. 72 00:04:12,543 --> 00:04:15,171 When I think about anxiety disorders, 73 00:04:15,672 --> 00:04:18,508 I think that these are people who have a tendency 74 00:04:18,591 --> 00:04:21,386 to have this adrenaline surge, 75 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:23,680 and it's paralyzing for them. 76 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:28,434 So either it's cognitively paralyzing, or physically paralyzing, or both. 77 00:04:28,518 --> 00:04:30,728 When I'm having an anxiety attack, 78 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:34,023 the first thing I do is I feel hot and pressure. 79 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:38,069 I feel almost like the air is thick and sort of pushing down on me 80 00:04:38,152 --> 00:04:40,863 like a really hot, really heavy blanket. 81 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:42,824 The heart is racing and thumping. 82 00:04:42,907 --> 00:04:45,535 The breathing was getting faster 83 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:48,413 and felt like there was a tight band around my chest. 84 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:52,000 It feels like I need to breathe more frequently 85 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:54,585 to get enough oxygen to just, like, survive. 86 00:04:54,669 --> 00:04:56,921 And I just could not catch my breath. 87 00:04:57,005 --> 00:04:59,090 Your pupils dilate. You start to sweat. 88 00:04:59,173 --> 00:05:01,843 Blood runs away from your stomach to your limbs. 89 00:05:01,926 --> 00:05:04,971 And, you know, for me, often it's, "Oh my God. My stomach hurts." 90 00:05:05,054 --> 00:05:07,223 "What's gonna happen? Am I gonna get sick?" 91 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:11,769 My muscles are so seized up that I'm just clinching everything. 92 00:05:11,853 --> 00:05:14,355 Rationally, you're like, "This is... This is ridiculous." 93 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:18,276 "There's nothing there." But we can't think with logic, um, at all. 94 00:05:18,359 --> 00:05:20,945 There's a whole host of changes that... that happen, 95 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:23,364 measurable down to the molecular level. 96 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:25,074 So that's the... the physical level. 97 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:29,329 Then there's a psychological level. What are you feeling? Dread. 98 00:05:29,412 --> 00:05:31,622 - This apprehension. - Fear. 99 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:34,667 And then I would take a Xanax, 100 00:05:34,751 --> 00:05:37,462 and... three or four minutes later... 101 00:05:37,545 --> 00:05:39,422 ...it was like I was normal again. 102 00:05:39,505 --> 00:05:41,424 And for me... 103 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:43,347 ...you can almost feel it kick in with a click, 104 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:45,803 which is why it felt like such a magic elixir to me. 105 00:05:45,887 --> 00:05:48,222 First of all, it gave me the physical relaxation 106 00:05:48,306 --> 00:05:52,518 that I needed to be able to relax the muscles, 107 00:05:52,602 --> 00:05:55,438 relax the hands, relax the breathing, 108 00:05:55,521 --> 00:06:00,693 and took the intense pressure off, 109 00:06:00,777 --> 00:06:04,030 while I was trying to regain my balance. 110 00:06:04,113 --> 00:06:07,283 It was really nothing like I'd ever felt before. 111 00:06:11,829 --> 00:06:14,999 It gives you the ability to just let go. 112 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:18,419 Just let go of all the stresses of the day and all the worries of the day, 113 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:21,506 and all that weight that's on you is... is gone. 114 00:06:23,007 --> 00:06:25,468 I don't know if anyone here has ever tried Xanax, 115 00:06:25,551 --> 00:06:27,011 but it's fantastic. 116 00:06:27,595 --> 00:06:30,723 Very muted claps for Xanax. 117 00:06:30,807 --> 00:06:35,353 You don't really get "Whoo's," it's more like, "Yeah." 118 00:06:35,436 --> 00:06:36,729 Benzodiazepines. 119 00:06:36,813 --> 00:06:38,332 - Yes. - This is the class of drugs. 120 00:06:38,356 --> 00:06:40,358 What are the names people recognize? 121 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:42,777 Valium. Xanax. 122 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:47,407 Klonopin. Ativan. One of the first ones is called Librium. 123 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:50,410 Really, they pharmacologically share the same mechanism. 124 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:55,373 Benzodiazepines enhance a neurotransmitter in the brain called GABA. 125 00:06:55,456 --> 00:06:57,583 You could think of it as being a depressant. 126 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:02,922 That is, it reduces the communication from one brain cell to another. 127 00:07:03,005 --> 00:07:06,551 So it calms the brain down. It's like, "Shh." You know? 128 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:12,056 It calms all of these fight-flight responses that we have. 129 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:15,101 It slows our breathing. It slows our heart rate. 130 00:07:15,184 --> 00:07:18,813 So it's depressing all of those activations. 131 00:07:19,647 --> 00:07:20,982 And as a result, 132 00:07:21,065 --> 00:07:24,569 when we're biologically calmed, we feel emotionally more calmed. 133 00:07:24,652 --> 00:07:27,780 I could think clearly. Um, my thoughts would flow smoothly. 134 00:07:27,864 --> 00:07:30,324 It made me feel like a better version of myself, 135 00:07:30,408 --> 00:07:32,243 and I think in some ways, I was. 136 00:07:34,996 --> 00:07:38,624 By the time I was in second grade, I knew I was a nervous kid. 137 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:43,004 Um, I knew that I had a nervous stomach, um, and I didn't like it. 138 00:07:43,087 --> 00:07:45,715 Very early in life, I developed an acute phobia 139 00:07:45,798 --> 00:07:48,009 that my mom had, of throwing up, 140 00:07:48,092 --> 00:07:50,928 um, which is a peculiar... 141 00:07:51,762 --> 00:07:54,265 phobia, but not that uncommon, we now know. 142 00:07:54,348 --> 00:07:56,267 From the time I was like six years old, 143 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:58,728 um, you know, I lived in mortal terror of that, 144 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:03,649 which led to phobia about germs and food, and food poisoning. 145 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:07,695 And sort of the amount of time that I spend surveying my environment 146 00:08:07,778 --> 00:08:11,491 for that particular threat over... over my life is... is kind of insane. 147 00:08:12,074 --> 00:08:16,287 As I got older, um, I would start to get panic attacks. 148 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:19,040 Hello and welcome aboard. 149 00:08:19,123 --> 00:08:22,668 Flying still provokes overwhelming physical anxiety. 150 00:08:22,752 --> 00:08:25,630 Take a moment to locate the exit nearest to you. 151 00:08:25,713 --> 00:08:30,301 If I have to do public speaking, overwhelming physical anxiety. 152 00:08:30,384 --> 00:08:36,682 As I, you know, went through my career in journalism and writing and editing, 153 00:08:36,766 --> 00:08:39,602 I was having to do more flying, more public speaking. 154 00:08:39,685 --> 00:08:41,812 Over my thirties and into my forties, 155 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:44,607 I published two books for which I had to do public speaking, 156 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:48,611 and I, kind of, through that, learned how to kind of titrate my dosages. 157 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:49,904 And I still felt anxious 158 00:08:49,987 --> 00:08:52,949 but it wasn't like Cindy Brady in that episode of The Brady Bunch. 159 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:54,450 When this red light goes on, 160 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:57,328 we're on the air and will be in everybody's living room. 161 00:08:57,411 --> 00:08:59,914 When the red light on the camera goes on, 162 00:08:59,997 --> 00:09:01,077 and, you know, she freezes. 163 00:09:02,124 --> 00:09:06,546 And then, in 2014, I published the book My Age of Anxiety... 164 00:09:07,129 --> 00:09:10,925 which talks about my issues with anxiety, and I thought maybe it will help me 165 00:09:11,008 --> 00:09:13,844 'cause that'd be the best breakthrough ending arc for the book. 166 00:09:13,928 --> 00:09:16,097 A, I'd be cured, which would be the main thing, 167 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:18,933 B, maybe I would've had an even bigger bestseller 168 00:09:19,016 --> 00:09:22,603 'cause it's, "Here's how you do it." Instead, it's like, "I'm still anxious." 169 00:09:22,687 --> 00:09:26,732 Not as satisfying or useful, um, an ending. 170 00:09:26,816 --> 00:09:29,819 Imagine having all your everyday activities crippled 171 00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:31,612 by fears and anxiety. 172 00:09:31,696 --> 00:09:33,948 Scott Stossel has fought anxiety his whole life. 173 00:09:34,031 --> 00:09:38,661 Its author, Scott Stossel, is the editor of The Atlantic and a Harvard graduate. 174 00:09:38,744 --> 00:09:40,913 He's also a married father of two. 175 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:43,416 I think in the short term, it had a paradoxical effect 176 00:09:43,499 --> 00:09:45,376 in that it made my anxiety worse. 177 00:09:45,459 --> 00:09:50,298 Like, my levels of, you know, benzodiazepine consumption went up. 178 00:09:50,381 --> 00:09:53,301 How do you and 40 million other people treat this kind of anxiety? 179 00:09:53,384 --> 00:09:56,470 So I have tried lots of things, 180 00:09:56,554 --> 00:09:58,556 but I'm medicated, and again, 181 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:00,891 this is something I never admitted 'cause I was ashamed. 182 00:10:00,975 --> 00:10:05,521 But I take antidepressants, benzodiazepines, which are... 183 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:08,733 - Like Xanax? - Xanax, an antianxiety medication... 184 00:10:08,816 --> 00:10:11,986 - Did you bring enough for the whole class? - Um... 185 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:14,071 I have some. Do you want me share? 186 00:10:14,155 --> 00:10:17,491 One of the things I was trying to figure out in writing the book is, 187 00:10:17,575 --> 00:10:21,704 "Is the source of that anxiety some hard-wiring that is genetic?" 188 00:10:21,787 --> 00:10:25,625 "Is it some psychic wound from when I was a small child?" 189 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:29,503 A large proportion of your baseline temperament, 190 00:10:29,587 --> 00:10:31,213 how you react to the world, 191 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,382 a lot of that you are born with. 192 00:10:34,342 --> 00:10:36,886 And they've done all kinds of, you know, twin studies. 193 00:10:36,969 --> 00:10:39,639 And they can show that has a profound effect. 194 00:10:40,681 --> 00:10:43,726 As profound effect as that is, however, it is not complete 195 00:10:43,809 --> 00:10:46,062 because if it were, paired sets of identical twins 196 00:10:46,145 --> 00:10:48,564 would always have the same level of anxiety, 197 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:50,399 and that is not at all the case. 198 00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:53,903 The experiences you have have a huge impact. 199 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:02,870 Mm-hmm. 200 00:11:03,537 --> 00:11:06,749 Quick hip-hop drive. Drive. I want those feet to drive. 201 00:11:12,129 --> 00:11:16,133 My first experiences with anxiety were definitely during my schooling years. 202 00:11:17,134 --> 00:11:19,387 Because I was bullied for most of my schooling years. 203 00:11:19,470 --> 00:11:23,057 There were three Black people in my entire elementary school. 204 00:11:23,140 --> 00:11:26,310 So I was always the only Black person in the class, 205 00:11:26,394 --> 00:11:28,646 and there was a lot of race-based bullying. 206 00:11:28,729 --> 00:11:31,190 I had this fear of recess 207 00:11:31,273 --> 00:11:34,110 because that was when the worst things would happen. 208 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:39,573 I grew up in South Florida, and I came from a humble background. 209 00:11:39,657 --> 00:11:41,492 My parents, uh, didn't have a lot. 210 00:11:42,368 --> 00:11:44,412 I joined the military right out of high school 211 00:11:44,495 --> 00:11:46,664 because I knew I wanted to go to college. 212 00:11:46,747 --> 00:11:48,833 I needed to find a way to pay for it myself. 213 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:51,335 I spent about fifteen months in Iraq. 214 00:11:51,419 --> 00:11:55,715 I'm very fortunate to be able to say that my deployment was mostly uneventful. 215 00:11:55,798 --> 00:11:58,926 On the other hand, though, I did experience sexual assault 216 00:11:59,009 --> 00:12:02,680 while I was in the military, and that was the one thing that caused 217 00:12:02,763 --> 00:12:05,641 a lot of the issues that I experienced after I left. 218 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:07,601 Deep breath in. Feel that tension? 219 00:12:07,685 --> 00:12:08,769 Mm-hmm. 220 00:12:12,648 --> 00:12:13,648 Seventy-five? 221 00:12:18,154 --> 00:12:19,864 - Close. Close. - No. 222 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:21,198 After I came back, 223 00:12:21,282 --> 00:12:24,076 I decided to move to New York City to go to college. 224 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,494 I wanted to study fashion. 225 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:29,373 I felt so distant from the students that I was studying with 226 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:31,208 because I was older than them 227 00:12:31,292 --> 00:12:33,711 and had gone through things that they hadn't gone through. 228 00:12:33,794 --> 00:12:35,880 I just couldn't relate at all. 229 00:12:35,963 --> 00:12:38,215 And for me, sitting in that classroom 230 00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:40,634 was the most important thing I was gonna do that day 231 00:12:40,718 --> 00:12:44,847 because I gambled with my life for a chance to sit in that seat. 232 00:12:46,307 --> 00:12:50,311 Also, my brain was sort of forcing me to start confronting 233 00:12:50,394 --> 00:12:52,354 what had happened to me while I was deployed. 234 00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:54,940 So all of that was coming up at the same time. 235 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,067 And that's when I was first prescribed medication, 236 00:12:57,151 --> 00:13:00,029 and they were extremely helpful at that time 237 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:01,822 when I was basically at a crisis point, 238 00:13:01,906 --> 00:13:04,366 and I was, like, hanging onto life by my fingernails. 239 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:14,251 I was thinking last night, before I went to bed, 240 00:13:14,335 --> 00:13:16,170 "What will I need to calm down?" 241 00:13:17,171 --> 00:13:19,173 I need, like, certainty. 242 00:13:19,256 --> 00:13:22,092 It always attacks this, like, medium. 243 00:13:22,176 --> 00:13:23,344 I need to know. 244 00:13:23,427 --> 00:13:26,347 I need to know the future. I'm like, "Is it gonna be okay?" Like... 245 00:13:26,430 --> 00:13:30,267 "No, no. No, doc." I need to speak to a doctor or a psychic. 246 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:31,936 I need to know. 247 00:13:33,687 --> 00:13:37,358 So, uh, two weeks into the pandemic, I lost my job. 248 00:13:37,858 --> 00:13:41,320 I mean, I remember thinking, "What am I gonna do about rent?" 249 00:13:41,403 --> 00:13:45,658 "What am I going to do about my bills? Like... Like, what's gonna happen?" 250 00:13:46,283 --> 00:13:49,662 I made an arrangement to live with my boyfriend. 251 00:13:50,621 --> 00:13:53,999 And then, I actually found out that he had been cheating on me, 252 00:13:54,083 --> 00:13:56,168 so I had to move back home to my mom's. 253 00:13:56,252 --> 00:13:57,962 So I had to stay home. 254 00:13:58,045 --> 00:13:59,505 I wasn't working. 255 00:13:59,588 --> 00:14:01,549 Um, I didn't have a car, 256 00:14:01,632 --> 00:14:04,260 and my parents were working, and I was alone. 257 00:14:04,343 --> 00:14:08,389 And so, I had to, like, hide this immense pain, 258 00:14:08,472 --> 00:14:11,725 especially, um, because I didn't want to hurt my parents. 259 00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:13,644 They were very hurt and very upset. 260 00:14:14,228 --> 00:14:16,522 And that's what I was like, "This is anxiety." 261 00:14:16,605 --> 00:14:19,859 I remember thinking, "I don't want night to come." 262 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:21,193 Like, every single night. 263 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:24,446 And then I had a friend who had Xanax, and I was like, 264 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:28,742 "I need to numb myself to be able to sleep." 265 00:14:28,826 --> 00:14:31,161 I asked my old therapist about it, 266 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:35,749 and I was surprised that she told me it was up to me. 267 00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:37,126 I was like, "What the hell?" 268 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:39,587 I thought that it was going to be like... 269 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:41,951 like again, like that reassurance of a therapist who said, 270 00:14:42,006 --> 00:14:46,010 "Oh, you're not... you're not there. You're not... You're not Xanax anxiety." 271 00:14:46,093 --> 00:14:47,219 But then, she was like, 272 00:14:47,303 --> 00:14:50,055 "Yeah, if you want to, we could explore that option." 273 00:14:50,139 --> 00:14:54,143 So I was like, "Ugh, wow, ball really is in your court." 274 00:14:54,226 --> 00:14:58,314 Kind of like a glass thing that you, like, break in case of emergency, 275 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:01,358 but you have to choose your emergency, like, so carefully. 276 00:15:03,861 --> 00:15:06,739 Benzodiazepine prescriptions have essentially been rising 277 00:15:06,822 --> 00:15:09,116 over the past two to three decades. 278 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:12,620 When you even just look at the numbers of people who struggle with anxiety. 279 00:15:12,703 --> 00:15:14,997 It's a third of us in our lifetime. A third. One in three. 280 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,791 And that... that means that you are debilitated by anxiety 281 00:15:17,875 --> 00:15:20,961 to a degree that you could be diagnosed with anxiety disorder. 282 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:23,380 So it's a pretty big stat. 283 00:15:23,464 --> 00:15:26,342 So what I think is happening here is you're having a panic attack. 284 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:28,260 Oh no, those... those aren't real. 285 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:30,387 Those are a PR spin for celebrity publicists. 286 00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:33,515 Trust me, I've known enough celebrities. 287 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:35,684 No, it's absolutely a real thing. 288 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:39,647 I think we're fed a myth that everybody else has it together. 289 00:15:39,730 --> 00:15:43,651 "I'm the only one struggling. I'm the only one who has trouble." 290 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,654 Everybody else just manages it flawlessly. 291 00:15:47,696 --> 00:15:50,407 What's wrong with me that I can't do that? 292 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,994 It's a cycle that keeps... that spirals up at different times. 293 00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:56,747 Part of that equation is expectations. 294 00:15:57,331 --> 00:16:00,250 There's this expectation that you'll be able to create something. 295 00:16:00,334 --> 00:16:02,544 Not only create it but then curate it on social media 296 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:03,788 and have a million followers. 297 00:16:03,837 --> 00:16:06,757 Social media will make you anxious. There's really no way around it. 298 00:16:07,591 --> 00:16:11,261 You're comparing your internal true experience 299 00:16:11,345 --> 00:16:14,390 with their sort of external, curated, airbrushed experience. 300 00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:15,683 You'll always come up short. 301 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:18,143 There are a lot of really brand new social problems. 302 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:20,521 You don't have boundaries between work and home. 303 00:16:20,604 --> 00:16:24,274 iPhones over eye contact has now become status quo. 304 00:16:24,358 --> 00:16:26,735 If we're in our heads, on our phones, 305 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:29,488 on our laptops, we're not in our bodies. 306 00:16:29,571 --> 00:16:30,739 You know, we're elsewhere. 307 00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,158 Teens are not hanging out as much with friends. 308 00:16:33,242 --> 00:16:36,161 We're separated from our bodies. We're separated from each other. 309 00:16:36,245 --> 00:16:38,080 We're separated from nature. 310 00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:41,000 We're all just looking into our phones, and we're by ourselves. 311 00:16:41,083 --> 00:16:43,836 - Then suddenly the day's over. - That's a huge part of it. 312 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:49,425 Maybe psychotropics are a way to adapt to a world that we, 313 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:51,510 in some ways, are not built for. 314 00:16:51,593 --> 00:16:53,178 Oh my... 315 00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:57,224 We're constantly being stimulated with these horrific events 316 00:16:57,307 --> 00:16:59,101 that occur all over the world. 317 00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:01,645 Are we witnessing the start of World War III? 318 00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:07,109 I grew up in a time where the news was on only about three times a day. 319 00:17:07,192 --> 00:17:08,545 - Nuclear weapons... - This unit... 320 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:12,197 Now you can get the news cycle going 24/7. 321 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:13,657 It's the sort of background hum 322 00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:16,118 that you don't think about every day, but it's there. 323 00:17:16,201 --> 00:17:17,745 "Eco-anxiety." 324 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:19,496 The epidemic of loneliness. 325 00:17:19,580 --> 00:17:21,290 Election stress disorder. 326 00:17:21,373 --> 00:17:24,334 Many Americans say they feel it, the anxiety and stress. 327 00:17:24,418 --> 00:17:26,295 I'm gonna grab a Xanax from the bedroom. 328 00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:27,671 Okay. Will you grab me six? 329 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,757 - I'm just gonna bring the whole bottle. - Okay. 330 00:17:30,257 --> 00:17:34,636 We were already not in great shape before COVID-19 came. 331 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,516 Anxiety had already overtaken depression as sort of the diagnosis du jour. 332 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,685 The pandemic's obviously made it worse. 333 00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:43,872 It's one in a series of stunning meltdowns. 334 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:47,775 Child Care is one of the greatest sources of stress. 335 00:17:47,858 --> 00:17:51,487 The only, uh, solution I had was to go into a closet, 336 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:53,197 kneel, get down on my knees, kneel, 337 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,949 start crying and praying. Like, "Please get me through this." 338 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:58,786 A group of mothers has found an unusual way to cope 339 00:17:58,869 --> 00:18:00,788 with the stresses and strains. 340 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:03,123 Primal scream therapy. 341 00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:05,334 Scientists really cannot believe... 342 00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,920 There's such a perfect storm of factors 343 00:18:08,003 --> 00:18:10,881 that we would be more anxious today than ever before. 344 00:18:23,977 --> 00:18:26,522 If you can get in a time machine and go back to the past, 345 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:28,690 I'd love to do it with you. 346 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:31,735 Americans drank. Oh, we drank. 347 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:37,074 Whether someone gets relief from the bottle of alcohol 348 00:18:37,157 --> 00:18:39,535 or a bottle of medicine, 349 00:18:40,410 --> 00:18:44,998 people are... are doing therapy, self-medicating themselves. 350 00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:48,252 The human equipment for what we today call anxiety 351 00:18:48,335 --> 00:18:52,047 has presumably been the same for tens of thousands of years. 352 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:54,842 We have called it melancholia, 353 00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:57,761 the vapors, the English Malady, 354 00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:02,432 neuroses, nervous temperament, nervous breakdown, neurasthenia. 355 00:19:02,516 --> 00:19:06,937 And neurasthenia was kind of the disease of Gilded Age capitalism. 356 00:19:07,437 --> 00:19:08,480 It was rampant. 357 00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:10,983 People were being diagnosed with it left and right. 358 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:14,027 They saw neurasthenia as this new type of illness, 359 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:16,280 the product of modern life. 360 00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:19,867 People moving into cities, factories came online, 361 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:23,537 women moving into the workforce and sort of achieving independence. 362 00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:25,831 The steam engine, the daily press, 363 00:19:25,914 --> 00:19:27,708 and the flow of information. 364 00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:29,543 Crazy pace of news. 365 00:19:29,626 --> 00:19:32,671 People would read in their newspaper in the morning 366 00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:35,632 about a volcano that explodes on the other side of the world, 367 00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:37,926 and then they would dwell on it all day 368 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:41,430 about how a volcano can destroy, um, an entire city. 369 00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:43,223 Technology-induced anxiety 370 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:46,894 is not something unique to us. We're not the first to experience it. 371 00:19:47,477 --> 00:19:51,565 A typical symptom would be an inability to turn off your thoughts. 372 00:19:51,648 --> 00:19:54,776 Morbid thoughts, insomnia, 373 00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:56,570 digestive issues, 374 00:19:56,653 --> 00:19:58,155 different pains. 375 00:19:58,238 --> 00:20:01,074 Back pain was very popular. 376 00:20:01,158 --> 00:20:04,411 Sexual dysfunction, tooth decay. 377 00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:06,162 Tooth decay. 378 00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:09,082 A very lucrative market developed, 379 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:12,211 and that's through advertising, advertising, advertising. 380 00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:14,296 "You feel this way, 381 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:17,424 well, you might have this illness, and here is the cure." 382 00:20:17,507 --> 00:20:20,135 For many upstanding, middle-class families, 383 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,346 alcohol was considered sinful. 384 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:25,265 On the other hand, medicine was medicine. 385 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,434 And we still get that today. 386 00:20:27,517 --> 00:20:30,229 You know, you'll talk to a friend, and the friend says things like, 387 00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:33,065 "I don't take drugs." But they take medicine. 388 00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:35,817 Uh, and... Yeah. 389 00:20:39,154 --> 00:20:41,615 I feel like I always knew I had anxiety, 390 00:20:41,698 --> 00:20:44,660 but I didn't wanna identify myself as having anxiety. 391 00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:49,998 It's like, "I don't want to go down that road that makes me weaker." 392 00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:51,500 "I'm fine." Like, 393 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:55,254 "Yes, I have my like little quirks and things like that, but I'm not that." 394 00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:59,341 I was watching, um, the show Girlfriends, and they have an amazing episode 395 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:03,804 about just how Black people and people of color sort of react 396 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,222 to therapy and mental health. 397 00:21:05,847 --> 00:21:07,432 Y-You're going to therapy? 398 00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:11,019 Joan, girl, Black people don't go to therapy, girl, they go to church. 399 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,107 And I think for a lot of us, it was like they'd pray it away. 400 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:17,734 Pray away illness, pray away this, pray away that, 401 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:21,196 and you can't always pray away everything, as evidenced by much. 402 00:21:22,489 --> 00:21:24,533 When I was a kid, I was loud, a bit nervous, 403 00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:28,745 I had to be the boss of everything, but I was just happy though. 404 00:21:28,829 --> 00:21:31,540 I was just like, "Yeah, this is fun. This is who I am." 405 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,002 These are my tantrums. I need everything to be particular. 406 00:21:35,085 --> 00:21:36,128 Um... 407 00:21:36,211 --> 00:21:40,173 But I think I was funny. I was always a pretty funny kid. 408 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,177 My parents put me in figure skating, and I was like, "I'll be an Olympian." 409 00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:47,931 "This is the perfect sport for me. It's about precision, and I'm good at it," 410 00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:50,267 well up into adolescence. 411 00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:53,395 And I gained some weight, which freaked me out, and then I was like, 412 00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:57,149 "Oh God, am I gay too? Jesus, I really got dealt a hand here." 413 00:21:57,232 --> 00:22:00,402 I was like, "Okay, well, this is everything that's wrong, 414 00:22:00,485 --> 00:22:02,654 so I'll just become everything that's right." 415 00:22:02,738 --> 00:22:05,407 So I became a very good student. Became very type A. 416 00:22:06,742 --> 00:22:10,454 In college, I found a lot of relief in the party scene. 417 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:14,708 It was really sophomore year where I just couldn't keep it all 418 00:22:14,791 --> 00:22:17,919 in balance anymore, and that's when... 419 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:21,590 In my head, I was like, "Yeah, it's because I can't focus." 420 00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:25,093 "Everyone else is taking Adderall, so that's why I'll go see a doctor." 421 00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:27,471 "I'll go take Adderall, and everything will be fine 422 00:22:27,554 --> 00:22:30,223 because I'll be able to do it all." But very quickly after... 423 00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:33,810 ...anxiety reared its head because that was really the problem. 424 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,813 It was the anxiety and trying to keep the anxiety at bay, 425 00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:40,442 and sort of destroying everything else in the process 426 00:22:40,525 --> 00:22:44,237 because it took so much mental energy to keep it in check. 427 00:22:44,321 --> 00:22:47,699 I like, went in and I was like, "I can't sleep anymore." I was like... 428 00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:50,118 And that's really wrecking with things. 429 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:53,705 He's like, "Oh, okay, so do you feel anxious or anything like that?" 430 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,832 I was like, "I don't know if I'd call it anxiety, 431 00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:57,918 but I definitely feel restless." 432 00:22:58,001 --> 00:22:59,920 And he was like, "All right. Let's try Xanax." 433 00:23:00,003 --> 00:23:04,466 I mean, had some of the best sleep of my life... taking Xanax. 434 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:10,514 No dreams, just hardcore, blackout sleep, um, which was great. 435 00:23:10,597 --> 00:23:15,435 But I was never addressing my anxiety, and I never thought I had anxiety. 436 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:19,398 So it was, "Oh no, I have anxiety from my Adderall." 437 00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:21,483 So it was never a root cause. 438 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:25,278 It was always the result of something else for a long time. 439 00:23:25,362 --> 00:23:26,988 And then, as I met other people, 440 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:30,242 especially people I met from New York City, 441 00:23:30,325 --> 00:23:34,121 or cities, or more affluent areas, they were all very much like, 442 00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:37,165 "Yeah. We all see therapists. We all take pills." 443 00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:40,961 Like, "Life sucks. We're not well, so that's how you manage it." 444 00:23:46,716 --> 00:23:49,511 The introduction of medical treatments 445 00:23:49,594 --> 00:23:51,972 and pills that could treat these things very effectively 446 00:23:52,055 --> 00:23:54,808 did change the... the notion of stigma. 447 00:23:54,891 --> 00:23:57,644 If you have glaucoma in your eye and have trouble seeing, 448 00:23:57,727 --> 00:24:00,689 you take, you know, a glaucoma medication that makes you able to see. 449 00:24:00,772 --> 00:24:03,483 If you have diabetes and have insulin dysregulation, 450 00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:05,110 you regulate your insulin. 451 00:24:05,193 --> 00:24:08,071 That is not a moral failure that my pancreas doesn't work right. 452 00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:10,949 It's not a moral failing that my eyes aren't working right. 453 00:24:11,032 --> 00:24:15,996 So why is it a moral failing that, um, I am susceptible to panic? 454 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,708 There's a biological problem, and you fix it. 455 00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:23,920 Benzodiazepines were invented in the 1950s, early '60s. 456 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:27,549 There was a great deal of excitement because they were to replace barbiturates. 457 00:24:27,632 --> 00:24:30,719 There's a strong possibility that at this moment, in your medicine cabinet, 458 00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:33,805 you have a drug that can hook you just as completely, 459 00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:37,142 injure you just as terribly as heroin or morphine. 460 00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:39,811 I'm speaking of barbiturates. 461 00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:43,315 The number one cause of death by poisoning in the United States. 462 00:24:43,398 --> 00:24:46,443 You wake up a few hours later, and you forgot how much you've taken. 463 00:24:49,362 --> 00:24:50,822 Better make it three. 464 00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:52,949 Benzodiazepines are much safer than that. 465 00:24:55,035 --> 00:24:58,914 So by the 1970s, benzodiazepines topped the charts 466 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:01,166 of the most frequently prescribed medications 467 00:25:01,249 --> 00:25:03,376 in the United States and across the world. 468 00:25:04,127 --> 00:25:05,921 There is something to the idea 469 00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:08,298 that this is the way of medicating the masses. 470 00:25:08,381 --> 00:25:12,260 It is the literal opium of the masses. It's the benzodiazepines of the masses. 471 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:13,428 Does anyone have a Valium? 472 00:25:20,143 --> 00:25:22,896 On an individual level, the unhappy housewife, 473 00:25:22,979 --> 00:25:26,816 or the unhappy lawyer who might wanna be in a different career, 474 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,194 instead of figuring out that better life choice, 475 00:25:29,277 --> 00:25:32,531 they are simply smoothing away those feelings of discomfort 476 00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:34,407 with that... medication. 477 00:25:34,491 --> 00:25:37,661 I can't believe the two of you are eating in the middle of a crisis like this. 478 00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:41,456 - We're nervous. What do you want? - Then take a Valium like a normal person. 479 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:44,334 But lo and behold, as time went on, 480 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:47,462 we realized that you can actually take too much of these medications. 481 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:50,006 And there are a number of problematic side effects 482 00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:52,092 that came with long-term benzodiazepine use. 483 00:25:52,175 --> 00:25:56,388 Today a senate health subcommittee heard a series of terrible stories 484 00:25:56,471 --> 00:25:58,473 told by people addicted to Valium. 485 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:01,935 A doctor from California said withdrawing from it felt 486 00:26:02,018 --> 00:26:05,522 as though someone poured kerosene under his skin and set it a fire. 487 00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,858 Valium is America's most widely prescribed drug. 488 00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:12,737 The FDA is warning doctors not to prescribe for everyday stress. 489 00:26:13,905 --> 00:26:15,365 And then came Xanax. 490 00:26:17,117 --> 00:26:19,786 Upjohn scientists succeeded in creating a molecule 491 00:26:19,869 --> 00:26:22,205 that helps control anxiety disorders. 492 00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:25,333 Acting on nerve cells in the area of the brain, 493 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,586 which controls emotion and anxiety. 494 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:30,005 The drug is more selective in its action, 495 00:26:30,088 --> 00:26:32,632 resulting in fewer side effects than older drugs. 496 00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:35,844 Xanax. Prescriptions number in the millions. 497 00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:38,930 I'm very much afraid that the same kind of over-prescribing, 498 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:44,227 the same kind of promiscuous... availability 499 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:47,272 is occurring with that drug. 500 00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:51,985 And then, 9/11 was really when the floodgates were opened. 501 00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:54,821 People's nerves were very jangly. People were on edge. 502 00:26:54,904 --> 00:26:58,658 The anguish of the attack on America is taking its toll in many ways, 503 00:26:58,742 --> 00:26:59,868 including mental health. 504 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:02,704 How do we ever heal? 505 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:07,083 This disaster was also a mental health catastrophe 506 00:27:07,167 --> 00:27:08,960 of massive proportions. 507 00:27:09,794 --> 00:27:12,130 Prescriptions for antianxiety medications 508 00:27:12,213 --> 00:27:16,259 are up 23% in New York and 8% nationally. 509 00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:19,220 And there was an uptake in advertising. 510 00:27:19,929 --> 00:27:20,972 Ads saying, you know, 511 00:27:21,056 --> 00:27:24,684 "Are you feeling more nervous? Our medicines can make you feel better." 512 00:27:24,768 --> 00:27:26,603 They showed pictures of women 513 00:27:26,686 --> 00:27:30,440 with worry bubbles of all the things they were worried about. 514 00:27:31,399 --> 00:27:32,901 And women responded. 515 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:37,030 And the numbers of women who started taking antidepressants, 516 00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:41,534 antianxiety meds, sleeping pills, after 9/11, went up and up and up. 517 00:27:43,787 --> 00:27:47,457 Don't wanna stereotype, but I think a lot of women do get that 518 00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:52,087 where we don't take care of ourselves and don't carve out time for ourselves, 519 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:57,008 and that really led into... my anxiety boiling over. 520 00:27:58,259 --> 00:28:01,805 I'm of the generation where they told us that we could have it all. 521 00:28:01,888 --> 00:28:03,098 They just didn't tell us how. 522 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:07,477 My mother was home with us. 523 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:13,650 And I think I did have the mental picture that I would be... mostly home, 524 00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:15,485 just 'cause that's what I knew growing up. 525 00:28:15,568 --> 00:28:16,820 But then, 526 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:22,200 I was 34 when my son came along, so I was already in the workplace, 527 00:28:22,283 --> 00:28:26,121 and already had a mortgage, and had balanced out the life 528 00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:29,791 to where I have to work, then trying to balance, 529 00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:33,336 well, "Who's going to be able to take my son to this lesson, 530 00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:35,296 or try to get off work in time to do it?" 531 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:37,006 Now I have to come home and cook dinner. 532 00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,634 And I felt like I was operating 533 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:43,805 on a high vibrating tension level at all times. 534 00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:47,559 You think, "Okay, great. I'll finish work, and I'll just have a glass of wine," 535 00:28:47,642 --> 00:28:51,771 and overall, that's physically and mentally 536 00:28:51,855 --> 00:28:54,357 a very unhealthy thing for me, personally. 537 00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:56,234 I think for some people, it works great, 538 00:28:56,317 --> 00:28:59,070 but that was actually ratcheting up my stress. 539 00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:04,325 About two years ago, 540 00:29:05,493 --> 00:29:08,496 everything really kind of ramped up at once. 541 00:29:09,247 --> 00:29:13,543 My husband's mother has some dementia 542 00:29:13,626 --> 00:29:16,838 and is in a nursing home out of state from us. 543 00:29:17,338 --> 00:29:20,508 My son entered a new stage of adolescence. 544 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:24,179 So it was just re-navigating our relationship 545 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:26,306 and me learning to back up. 546 00:29:26,806 --> 00:29:30,560 Work got incredibly stressful, 547 00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:35,231 and then menopause can just throw everything out the window. 548 00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:37,650 It's like, you're going along on an even keel, 549 00:29:37,734 --> 00:29:41,571 and your life has been fine up until your '50s or whatever. 550 00:29:41,654 --> 00:29:47,410 And that throws your hormones and your life completely out of balance. 551 00:29:47,494 --> 00:29:48,828 I think it's fair to say 552 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:52,707 that the female body and the male body are not exactly identical. 553 00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:56,711 That there are very different hormones that work in one or in the other. 554 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,214 But probably more important than that, 555 00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:01,883 women have a lot of role models of other women 556 00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:05,345 who show them how to be anxious, let's say, in an acceptable way. 557 00:30:06,262 --> 00:30:12,060 We socialize girls to be more expressive of their emotions. 558 00:30:12,143 --> 00:30:15,855 We support the little girl who is crying 559 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:21,444 and... and, um... and needs that extra attention. 560 00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:24,823 Whereas with boys, we tell them to go out there and play, 561 00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:29,244 to... to fight it out, to be tough and stop crying. 562 00:30:30,036 --> 00:30:32,539 Now, let's blow our nose and dry our eyes. 563 00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:36,376 Wouldn't want Mike and his mother to see us this way. 564 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:41,548 I've been a therapist for about 16, 17 years. 565 00:30:41,631 --> 00:30:44,467 I've worked in the schools. I've gone and done in-home therapy. 566 00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:47,345 Finally, about five years ago, I started a private practice. 567 00:30:47,428 --> 00:30:52,183 And in my practice, I just felt like not enough men were coming into therapy. 568 00:30:52,267 --> 00:30:54,978 So in my process of really just trying to understand, 569 00:30:55,061 --> 00:30:57,438 "Why? Why aren't men coming to therapy?" 570 00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:01,901 I did some research on that, and cost, for one, like, you know, 571 00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:06,072 they might be underinsured, uninsured, or not be able to afford it. 572 00:31:06,155 --> 00:31:09,200 That's a huge reason why a lot of people I imagine might not go to therapy. 573 00:31:09,784 --> 00:31:12,787 But specifically with Black men, also the issue of, 574 00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:15,039 "Going into a system that is not built for me." 575 00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:16,457 Which it is not. 576 00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:19,752 It's not a system that is built for people of color. 577 00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,714 I've been in session with a person of color, 578 00:31:22,797 --> 00:31:25,300 and I'm like, "That's just not gonna work." 579 00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:26,968 Like, "I can't say it that way." 580 00:31:27,051 --> 00:31:29,971 The very best example is 581 00:31:30,054 --> 00:31:34,142 one of my questions on my intake paperwork is, 582 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:36,060 "Have you ever experienced any traumas?" 583 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:40,732 This client has said no to that... that question, two, three times. 584 00:31:40,815 --> 00:31:42,650 Then one day, as he was answering a question, 585 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:46,821 he was like, "Hmm, let me see... Was that before or after I got shot?" 586 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,407 And I'm like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you say, 'Got shot'?" 587 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:51,534 "You never told me you got shot." 588 00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:54,287 And you know what he said? "You never asked." 589 00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:57,248 And I'm like, "I can't put on my intake paperwork, 590 00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,168 'Have you ever been shot, ' because that's a unique experience." 591 00:32:00,251 --> 00:32:02,587 And he said, "It's not that unique of an experience." 592 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,350 "I know a lot of people who've been shot." 593 00:32:04,422 --> 00:32:08,343 That was the moment that told me that I needed to shift in the way in which 594 00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:12,138 I am even asking questions or taking an assessment. 595 00:32:12,221 --> 00:32:15,683 Perhaps, if you live in an environment 596 00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:20,229 that your personal humanity, 597 00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:25,652 your safety, security, well-being is constantly under threat, 598 00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:28,529 you know, you have to show toughness. 599 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,573 So to then acknowledge 600 00:32:31,074 --> 00:32:35,578 that you're having a mental health struggle or challenge... 601 00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:39,374 No, that's... that's not the case. 602 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:43,252 I have a semester and a half at college. So, I understand Freud. 603 00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:47,340 I understand therapy as a concept. But in my world, that does not go down. 604 00:32:48,424 --> 00:32:51,552 Could I be happier? Yeah. Yeah. Who couldn't? 605 00:32:52,261 --> 00:32:55,515 But I will tell you as a psychiatrist who treats men... 606 00:32:55,598 --> 00:32:57,475 ...uh, lots of men get anxious. 607 00:32:57,558 --> 00:33:00,436 Um, I think that many men are getting more comfortable admitting 608 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,106 that they're anxious, talking about social anxiety, 609 00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:04,816 or generalized anxiety, 610 00:33:04,899 --> 00:33:07,819 or something like fear of contagion, for instance. 611 00:33:07,902 --> 00:33:10,321 It's changing. I think there's a huge shift. 612 00:33:10,405 --> 00:33:13,741 Everybody's talking about mental health. Now you have Charlamagne tha God. 613 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,970 Everything is mental. Everything starts with a thought. 614 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,347 So if you don't have this right, nothing else will be right. 615 00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:19,622 You have Jay-Z. 616 00:33:19,706 --> 00:33:23,918 Well, if you grow, you realize the... the ridiculousness 617 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:26,004 of the stigma attached to it. It's like, 618 00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:29,632 "Why don't you just talk to someone about your problems," you know. 619 00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:32,468 That is helping to normalize it for... for men. 620 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:34,846 That typical profile of a patient 621 00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:37,974 who might be prescribed benzodiazepine is widening. 622 00:33:38,057 --> 00:33:42,228 So, um, whereas it might have been, typically, 623 00:33:42,311 --> 00:33:45,523 you know, 30 years ago, um, a middle-aged woman, 624 00:33:45,606 --> 00:33:48,067 now we're seeing younger and younger age groups. 625 00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:52,613 We're seeing very old people are not only being prescribed benzodiazepines, 626 00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:55,491 but being kept on them for much longer periods of time. 627 00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:57,785 The training about using these medications 628 00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,746 is not always as robust as one would hope. 629 00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:03,458 These are drugs that were really meant to be taken short-term, 630 00:34:03,541 --> 00:34:05,793 no longer than, let's say, a month or so, 631 00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,838 which is really stunning when you think about the fact 632 00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:14,010 that many, many people who are initiated on a benzodiazepine 633 00:34:14,093 --> 00:34:17,680 will be... will continue to take that for years or even decades. 634 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:29,901 When I first had my... my very first panic attack, 635 00:34:29,984 --> 00:34:32,195 I really thought I was going crazy. 636 00:34:34,363 --> 00:34:38,534 I was like, "You need to lock me away 'cause I don't know what is going on." 637 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:43,414 So I was probably 14 or 15. 638 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,459 I had traveled a ton as a kid and enjoyed flying. 639 00:34:46,542 --> 00:34:52,632 But for some reason, this day we were about ready to take off, 640 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:56,928 and all of a sudden, I'm like... Feel like I'm melting from the inside out. 641 00:34:57,011 --> 00:34:59,972 I can't breathe. I thought I was dying. Uh, really. 642 00:35:00,848 --> 00:35:05,478 And, after that, was a couple really smooth years. 643 00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:08,106 When I was about to be a senior, 644 00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:10,775 it was my summer going into my senior year in high school, 645 00:35:10,858 --> 00:35:13,694 I worked at Panera at the time, and I was at the cash register, 646 00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:17,240 and so I was interacting with people, and I started bawling 647 00:35:17,323 --> 00:35:21,327 in front of this couple that had come in, and I was, I mean... mortified. 648 00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:23,538 It was extremely embarrassing. 649 00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,040 But I was like, "I don't know what was going on." Like... 650 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,292 "I've been here hundreds of times." 651 00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:31,170 "Why am I..." Like, "What is wrong with me?" 652 00:35:32,046 --> 00:35:35,466 It was getting to the point where I couldn't complete daily tasks 653 00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:38,010 without, um, like, having a meltdown. 654 00:35:38,094 --> 00:35:41,180 I couldn't go to the grocery store, I couldn't drive down the street, 655 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:44,350 like simple things that you normally do every single day. 656 00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:47,645 You feel trapped and that's... Who wants to feel like that? 657 00:35:47,728 --> 00:35:50,231 I mean, you'd do anything to not feel like that. 658 00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:55,403 Me and my dad have always been incredibly similar. 659 00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:59,574 Just kind of an unspoken language that we have, 660 00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:03,744 and he had experienced anxiety in his early adulthood. 661 00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:06,497 Um, so he kind of recognized the signs right away. 662 00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:09,250 He just wasn't qualified to deal with what I needed. 663 00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:14,422 I honestly didn't know a whole lot about psychiatric medication at all 664 00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:16,674 when I started therapy. 665 00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:19,468 But she had mentioned a certain drug called Zoloft, 666 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,929 which I ended up taking and still take. 667 00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:26,392 We didn't start talking about Xanax, um, until... 668 00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,561 I had to fly again. 669 00:36:28,644 --> 00:36:32,481 I had told my psychiatrist, I was like, "Look, there is no way in hell 670 00:36:32,565 --> 00:36:34,567 that I am ever going to fly again." Like... 671 00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:38,237 "I'll drive for three days in a row if I have to. I'm just not doing it." 672 00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:41,908 And she was kinda like, "Have you ever thought about Xanax?" 673 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:47,788 I landed, and I, like, really wanted to go on top of a mountain 674 00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:49,790 and just scream to the world that I did it. 675 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:52,126 I didn't cry. I didn't hyperventilate. 676 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:54,879 I didn't have a panic attack. I was completely fine. 677 00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:59,383 It originally started off with using Xanax for certain situations, 678 00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:02,803 and then I made the choice to take it daily 679 00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,722 because it did work for me. 680 00:37:04,805 --> 00:37:08,309 I need that release in order to go to sleep. 681 00:37:08,392 --> 00:37:10,228 I was like, you know... 682 00:37:10,311 --> 00:37:11,938 ...at this point, I'm... 683 00:37:12,563 --> 00:37:14,398 so far below my peers 684 00:37:14,482 --> 00:37:18,778 and their, um, ability to just live. 685 00:37:18,861 --> 00:37:23,491 Uh, and... and why would I do that when there is something that could help? 686 00:37:24,617 --> 00:37:26,244 Any medicine, any drug, 687 00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:28,996 there's always a risk-benefit analysis, right? 688 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,539 So with the benzos, 689 00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:34,168 the risk and the risk-benefit analysis is quite a few things. 690 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:36,212 The very common side effect 691 00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:39,799 is just simply being fatigued, being sedated. 692 00:37:40,383 --> 00:37:44,720 That is why they are commonly prescribed to help people fall asleep. 693 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:47,765 You're disinhibited, you're a little loopy, a little sleepy, 694 00:37:47,848 --> 00:37:49,392 maybe you make bad decisions. 695 00:37:49,475 --> 00:37:51,852 Like, nobody really wants to share, like, 696 00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:54,063 all the nitty-gritty stuff when you take medication. 697 00:37:54,146 --> 00:37:57,066 For me, everything was just hilarious when I took it, um... 698 00:37:58,567 --> 00:38:00,778 so that really would not be good 699 00:38:00,861 --> 00:38:03,864 if I was going to an interview or something important like that, 700 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:06,158 and I'm just laughing the whole time. 701 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:10,121 For some people, that inhibitory effect actually is a dis-inhibition effect, 702 00:38:10,204 --> 00:38:13,457 and they become more loose, and light, and goofy, and silly. 703 00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:18,421 I just feel like I'm excited, and I feel relaxed, and I'm... 704 00:38:18,504 --> 00:38:23,759 ♪ Ready to party ♪ 705 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:27,596 Benzodiazepines are basically alcohol in pill form. 706 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,682 You know, one of the problems with the benzos 707 00:38:29,765 --> 00:38:33,019 is that they can really interfere with short-term memory, 708 00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:36,981 with laying down new memories, with retrieving memories, 709 00:38:37,064 --> 00:38:39,108 you know, everything gets a little fuzzy. 710 00:38:39,191 --> 00:38:41,986 Don't really remember anything after taking it, um... 711 00:38:42,903 --> 00:38:47,325 and yeah, that obviously can be really bad if you're, like, driving. 712 00:38:47,408 --> 00:38:50,619 Some of the long-term risks of benzodiazepines are well-known. 713 00:38:50,703 --> 00:38:54,040 The data about Alzheimer's disease and dementia, though, is relatively new 714 00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:56,083 in just the last several years. 715 00:38:56,584 --> 00:38:58,252 And it's a significant risk. 716 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,338 If you think about it, you're taking a depressant, 717 00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:02,590 so with less use of your brain, 718 00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:06,010 it could be that some of those brain cells began to, like die off, 719 00:39:06,093 --> 00:39:07,762 decreasing overall brain activity. 720 00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:11,349 There is also a much more ordinary side effect, 721 00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:13,351 which we call tolerance. 722 00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:18,439 And tolerance means needing more and more of the drug to get the same effect. 723 00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:23,235 It was an essential part of my toolkit. I carried benzos with me all the time. 724 00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:25,613 In fact, I had done that basically for 30 years. 725 00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:28,657 It changed my overall level of anxiety 726 00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:31,243 because I knew I always had that magic bullet. 727 00:39:31,327 --> 00:39:33,412 I was like, "I have figured out a system that works." 728 00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:37,625 "I can get through plane flights. I can get through public speaking things 729 00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:39,418 with my Xanax and Klonopin." 730 00:39:39,502 --> 00:39:44,131 Before that point, I would spend weeks, if not months dreading these things, 731 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:47,718 nightmares about them, cold sweats. That went away. 732 00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:49,970 If I would go through a particularly anxious period 733 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:52,723 where... where I would intentionally take a lot more, 734 00:39:53,808 --> 00:39:57,228 I would go up on a higher level and taper back down afterwards. 735 00:39:57,311 --> 00:40:01,232 And I would feel it. Afterwards, I would get physical symptoms. 736 00:40:01,315 --> 00:40:03,609 Um, sometimes I'd just feel like elevated anxiety, 737 00:40:03,692 --> 00:40:07,613 and my GABA receptor is basically going, "Hey, where's that... where's that Xanax?" 738 00:40:07,696 --> 00:40:11,450 The nightmares I started to have became different. What I would dream was, 739 00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:14,286 "Oh my God, I have to do a post speaking, and I lost my Xanax." 740 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:17,540 Or, you know, I'm on an airplane, and I... I'm out of it. 741 00:40:17,623 --> 00:40:21,544 I was clearly psychologically dependent from that point forward on, 742 00:40:21,627 --> 00:40:22,461 on the benzos. 743 00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,463 Not all benzodiazepines are created equal. 744 00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:28,759 Xanax, for example, works more quickly than most other benzodiazepines 745 00:40:28,843 --> 00:40:31,720 and wears off more quickly than most other benzodiazepines. 746 00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:35,599 Agents that had that kind of immediate reinforcing quality, 747 00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:38,853 but then wear off quickly so you get into that kind of dysphoric, 748 00:40:38,936 --> 00:40:41,856 wanting, craving state, tend to be more addictive. 749 00:40:44,191 --> 00:40:46,402 I do have addiction in my family, 750 00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:51,240 and so I have really resisted in having substances in my life at all. 751 00:40:51,323 --> 00:40:54,034 I don't really drink at all, I've never smoked, 752 00:40:54,118 --> 00:40:56,537 I've never been high because I was afraid 753 00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:59,665 that maybe there was something about my family 754 00:40:59,748 --> 00:41:02,251 that made it that people got addicted to things. 755 00:41:02,334 --> 00:41:03,334 Yeah. 756 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:05,420 Great job. 757 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:09,216 But, you know, we talked about starting on a really low dosage. 758 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,011 We talked about, like, what sort of things to look for 759 00:41:12,094 --> 00:41:14,138 and the fear that I had in the beginning, 760 00:41:14,221 --> 00:41:17,558 of having to go up and up and up and up, didn't actually happen. 761 00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:20,686 I was able to get a lot of relief with a pretty low dosage. 762 00:41:20,769 --> 00:41:25,107 And I think having that very healthy fear of addiction 763 00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:27,860 made it so that I really focused on, like, 764 00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:30,821 "Medication is a tool for me to make space 765 00:41:30,905 --> 00:41:33,991 for non-medication things to work in my life." 766 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,000 If you're using them judiciously, 767 00:41:38,037 --> 00:41:41,957 every once in a while for acute anxiety, it may not be too much of a problem. 768 00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,877 If you take them every day, multiple times a day, 769 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,672 you know, abruptly discontinuing these medicines is very uncomfortable. 770 00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:51,258 The consequences can be severe. 771 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:54,053 People can become psychotic. They can have seizures. 772 00:41:54,136 --> 00:41:56,972 They can have severe anxiety, terrible insomnia. 773 00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,434 I've even seen the distress of benzodiazepine withdrawal 774 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:03,646 result in suicidal thoughts and even suicide attempts. 775 00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:05,147 Knowing what I know now, 776 00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:08,776 I would never have taken that first prescription. 777 00:42:09,276 --> 00:42:10,319 N-Never. 778 00:42:10,402 --> 00:42:14,698 It was the biggest... ...it was the biggest mistake of my life. 779 00:42:15,616 --> 00:42:18,244 I moved to Colorado because I love the outdoors. 780 00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:20,579 And I love... I love skiing. 781 00:42:20,663 --> 00:42:22,957 I love rock climbing. I love mountaineering. 782 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,168 I love white-water rafting and kayaking. 783 00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:32,174 In fact, I love so many high-risk, adrenaline-type sports, 784 00:42:32,967 --> 00:42:34,843 that I kind of wonder, 785 00:42:34,927 --> 00:42:38,305 "How did I ever get diagnosed with anxiety to begin with?" 786 00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:46,272 Hi, sweetie. Let me see what you did. 787 00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:48,440 - So, Dada... - Yeah? 788 00:42:48,524 --> 00:42:50,359 ...this is the Christmas tree. 789 00:42:50,442 --> 00:42:53,237 Yeah. Ooh, it's a tall one. 790 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,698 This is the snowman. 791 00:42:55,781 --> 00:42:57,116 I love it, sweetie. 792 00:42:57,658 --> 00:43:02,788 I think I was maybe on one milligram of Xanax in college, or half a milligram. 793 00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:08,127 And then over the years, it creeped up to one milligram, 794 00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:11,672 to two milligrams, to finally three milligrams, 795 00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:14,383 which is where I landed for, 796 00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:18,137 you know, a good 12 years, 15 years. 797 00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:23,517 And I never took any more than my exact daily dose. 798 00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:26,895 So in about 2013, 799 00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:31,859 I remember telling my psychiatrist that, "You know, life is going good right now." 800 00:43:33,068 --> 00:43:37,323 Kelly was pregnant with our first child, and I couldn't wait to be a dad. 801 00:43:38,824 --> 00:43:44,455 He reduced my Xanax from three milligrams to two-and-a-half milligrams. 802 00:43:44,538 --> 00:43:46,123 And then, out of the blue, 803 00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:50,336 I just started having some kind of mysterious physical symptoms. 804 00:43:50,836 --> 00:43:54,506 Things like sounds and smells being overwhelming. 805 00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:57,301 I would sort of have some heart palpitations. 806 00:43:57,885 --> 00:44:00,679 The skin on my arms would feel like it was burning. 807 00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:05,684 Random muscles would just twitch. I had this horrible, um, brain fog. 808 00:44:06,268 --> 00:44:09,396 And the physical fatigue is one of the worst symptoms. 809 00:44:11,023 --> 00:44:13,335 My wife and I started getting more and more concerned. I... 810 00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:15,569 This is something serious going on. 811 00:44:16,445 --> 00:44:18,739 I went to see rheumatologists 812 00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:21,116 and cardiologists and neurologists... 813 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,285 ...and all sorts of specialists. 814 00:44:23,369 --> 00:44:25,579 Finally, uh, a doctor said, 815 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:28,248 "You know what, you've really been through the gamut." 816 00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:31,251 He said, "I'm gonna write you a referral to the Mayo Clinic 817 00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:33,295 because they're the best of the best." 818 00:44:33,962 --> 00:44:37,299 Packed up the whole family and flew to Minnesota. 819 00:44:37,383 --> 00:44:43,222 The Mayo neurologist said, "I think you have autoimmune encephalitis." 820 00:44:43,305 --> 00:44:46,475 "It's an inflammation of the brain, and it's easily treatable." 821 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:50,479 "It is a little uncomfortable. You have to get IV infusions." 822 00:44:50,562 --> 00:44:55,651 I did the eight weeks of infusions, and I didn't feel any better whatsoever. 823 00:44:55,734 --> 00:44:57,319 I... If anything, I felt worse. 824 00:44:57,403 --> 00:45:00,489 And along this journey, I started asking the doctors 825 00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:03,951 once in a while, I'd say, "Could it be anything to do with my medications?" 826 00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:06,870 "Could my medications be causing any of this?" 827 00:45:06,954 --> 00:45:10,624 And the answer was always, "Oh no. It's definitely not the medications." 828 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:12,292 "It's for sure not the medications." 829 00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:16,380 By this time, my psychiatrist had crossed me over 830 00:45:16,463 --> 00:45:18,924 from Xanax over to Valium. 831 00:45:19,007 --> 00:45:21,927 I mean, call it just my intuition or... 832 00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:23,971 "I don't know where else to go with this, 833 00:45:24,054 --> 00:45:27,391 so please, I want to taper off of the medication." 834 00:45:36,358 --> 00:45:38,944 February of 2018, 835 00:45:39,027 --> 00:45:40,571 I woke up in the morning, 836 00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:44,324 and something was very wrong. 837 00:45:45,409 --> 00:45:47,369 I could hear the kids downstairs, 838 00:45:47,453 --> 00:45:51,665 but the... the noise of the kids playing was... was piercing. 839 00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:55,419 My skin was burning. My... My chest was burning. 840 00:45:58,589 --> 00:46:00,382 I just couldn't take it anymore. 841 00:46:01,091 --> 00:46:02,843 I stormed out of the house, 842 00:46:03,469 --> 00:46:08,140 and I started driving really fast and really erratic. 843 00:46:08,223 --> 00:46:11,977 A voice in my head just said, "I've got to escape. I've got to escape." 844 00:46:12,686 --> 00:46:15,481 And I saw this hill off to the side, 845 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,734 with probably 300 feet high with a cliff on one side. 846 00:46:19,943 --> 00:46:21,653 And I just said, 847 00:46:22,321 --> 00:46:25,032 "I'm gonna climb up that hill, and I'm gonna jump." 848 00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:28,160 And as I was hiking up... 849 00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:33,332 ...I had visions of my kids in my head. 850 00:46:35,334 --> 00:46:38,045 And I... dropped on my knees, 851 00:46:39,338 --> 00:46:41,882 and I said, "John, this is not who you are." 852 00:46:42,382 --> 00:46:44,051 "This is not who you are." 853 00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:48,096 And my wife heard me pull in and greeted me at the door. 854 00:46:49,223 --> 00:46:52,810 And I looked at her, and I said, "It's got to be the Valium." 855 00:46:53,852 --> 00:46:56,313 "It's got to be the Valium." 856 00:46:56,897 --> 00:47:01,652 And my wife started Googling "Valium and suicide," 857 00:47:01,735 --> 00:47:05,572 "Valium withdrawal," "Xanax withdrawal." 858 00:47:08,075 --> 00:47:10,285 Unfortunately, it was patients themselves 859 00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:11,829 and not the medical profession 860 00:47:11,912 --> 00:47:14,957 that first recognized the problems associated with benzodiazepines, 861 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,126 including dependence, tolerance, and withdrawal. 862 00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:21,964 That data really came from the 1970s and was characterized 863 00:47:22,047 --> 00:47:24,132 by Dr. Heather Ashton, who was a psychiatrist 864 00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:27,469 who ran a benzodiazepine taper clinic out of the UK. 865 00:47:27,553 --> 00:47:31,682 There's been a lack of training in clinical pharmacology 866 00:47:31,765 --> 00:47:34,268 and in the management of drug withdrawal. 867 00:47:34,351 --> 00:47:37,437 Listening to patients has become a lost art, 868 00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:41,275 and doctors have also been seduced by the idea 869 00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:44,152 that drugs are the cure for mental illness. 870 00:47:44,236 --> 00:47:46,780 And she wrote this whole treaty called The Ashton Manual, 871 00:47:46,864 --> 00:47:50,367 which you can find online, which is really a great, great document. 872 00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:55,539 All of a sudden, we came across The Ashton Manual. 873 00:47:55,622 --> 00:48:00,878 There was every symptom I had reported to every doctor, 874 00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:02,963 one right after another. 875 00:48:03,046 --> 00:48:05,340 My wife and I kind of looked at each other like, 876 00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:08,510 "How in the world?" 877 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,056 We went to 32 different doctors, and none of them 878 00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:18,270 connected the dots that I was reducing my benzodiazepine, 879 00:48:18,353 --> 00:48:19,980 and I was in benzo withdrawal. 880 00:48:20,063 --> 00:48:23,275 Some patients have no problems, and some patients are sensitive 881 00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:26,403 to even the most small dose adjustment, dose reduction. 882 00:48:26,486 --> 00:48:28,447 This is particularly true in older people. 883 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:31,283 You know, as we age, our brains are less plastic. 884 00:48:31,783 --> 00:48:33,577 So, you know, once people get above 50 885 00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:35,829 and they've been on benzodiazepines for decades... 886 00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:38,081 very, very hard to get off. 887 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:40,542 Too few people are aware of the potential dangers. 888 00:48:40,626 --> 00:48:44,338 Too few doctors are aware of... of those dangers. 889 00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:46,924 And probably somewhat surprisingly to me at this point. 890 00:48:47,007 --> 00:48:51,303 These are useful tools. I'm very happy to have them. 891 00:48:51,386 --> 00:48:54,431 You know, I'm grateful to the people who invented them. 892 00:48:54,514 --> 00:48:59,144 The problem is that we're using them way too often, 893 00:48:59,227 --> 00:49:01,605 and we're using them way too long. 894 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,067 When you look at all the different risk factors 895 00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:06,485 for addiction, 896 00:49:06,568 --> 00:49:10,155 one of the most important is simple access to the drug. 897 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,952 And we live in this age of incredible overprescribing and oversupply, 898 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:18,789 which means you're more likely to try it and more likely to get addicted to it. 899 00:49:20,707 --> 00:49:22,709 I've been a psychiatrist since the mid '90s, 900 00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:25,295 and back then, if somebody came to me 901 00:49:25,379 --> 00:49:28,173 and they had symptoms of anxiety or depression, 902 00:49:28,256 --> 00:49:31,385 I had to sort of explain, you know, "Oh, you have depression." 903 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:33,804 Or "These are..." "You know, this is a panic attack," 904 00:49:33,887 --> 00:49:37,975 and I had to spend some time in the first visit or the second visit 905 00:49:38,058 --> 00:49:41,603 where I would sort of destigmatize the fact that they had to take medicines. 906 00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:46,775 Ever since 1997, when the FDA decided 907 00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:50,153 that drug companies could advertise directly to people. 908 00:49:50,237 --> 00:49:52,864 You can't just snap out of clinical depression. 909 00:49:52,948 --> 00:49:55,075 No one can, because it's a real illness. 910 00:49:55,158 --> 00:49:57,536 You may feel anxious. Can't even sleep. 911 00:49:57,619 --> 00:50:00,330 We know what social anxiety can feel like. 912 00:50:00,414 --> 00:50:02,416 The chemical imbalance could be to blame. 913 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:06,294 You can get your life back. Life can feel like life again. 914 00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:10,257 I don't have to do any kind of educating or destigmatizing or hand-holding 915 00:50:10,340 --> 00:50:12,801 because I have people coming to me saying, you know, 916 00:50:12,884 --> 00:50:14,845 "Should I take Wellbutrin or Effexor," 917 00:50:14,928 --> 00:50:17,597 you know, or like, um, "My Pilates instructor is on Paxil, 918 00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:21,309 but my dental hygienist said that Zoloft is better, and what's the difference?" 919 00:50:21,393 --> 00:50:25,188 There was really no maintenance about it. There's really no checking in on. 920 00:50:25,272 --> 00:50:26,648 "How are you feeling?" 921 00:50:26,732 --> 00:50:28,275 "What's going on up here?" 922 00:50:28,358 --> 00:50:31,987 "What's your emotional state?" Like, it was just very transactional. 923 00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:35,365 Medicine has become industrialized to the point 924 00:50:35,449 --> 00:50:39,745 where doctors kind of function like workers on an assembly line. 925 00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:44,541 And after him, all of my psychiatrists, I guess, were very transactional. 926 00:50:44,624 --> 00:50:47,335 And I found people who were transactional, because I was like, 927 00:50:47,419 --> 00:50:50,672 "I don't wanna get into what I'm feeling. I don't wanna talk about that." 928 00:50:50,756 --> 00:50:54,676 There's enormous pressure on doctors to see patients quickly, 929 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,679 to get them in and out, to prescribe pills, 930 00:50:57,763 --> 00:51:00,015 because that's what third-party payers will reimburse. 931 00:51:00,098 --> 00:51:03,560 One doctor was like, "Could you tell me about your childhood in Texas?" 932 00:51:03,643 --> 00:51:06,688 And I was like, "I don't wanna." Like, "Let's just get to the script part." 933 00:51:06,772 --> 00:51:09,983 We're now asking patients were they satisfied with their service. 934 00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:12,110 Doctors very eager to be rated highly 935 00:51:12,194 --> 00:51:16,615 because their professional advancement is tied to how they do on those surveys. 936 00:51:16,698 --> 00:51:19,910 So, naturally, with all of those kinds of invisible incentives, 937 00:51:19,993 --> 00:51:23,413 you know, doctors will write for what patients want. 938 00:51:23,497 --> 00:51:26,583 The other issue is that in the short term, these agents really work. 939 00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:31,296 I went to a therapist when I was thirteen in New Hampshire. 940 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:33,507 Uh... 941 00:51:33,590 --> 00:51:36,343 Who, the day I... 942 00:51:36,426 --> 00:51:40,764 First day, I went there, he said... And this is in '84 or something, 943 00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:44,142 and he said, "I'm going to write you a prescription." 944 00:51:44,226 --> 00:51:47,395 "Every time you feel sad, you take one of these." 945 00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:48,522 It was Xanax. 946 00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:52,859 I do want to be careful. I don't wanna demonize all benzodiazepines, all drugs. 947 00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:55,987 What I do know is that they're overprescribed, like opioids. 948 00:51:56,071 --> 00:51:57,239 And they're both painkillers. 949 00:51:57,322 --> 00:51:59,658 One is of emotional pain, and the other of physical pain. 950 00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:04,162 There's this huge Xanax crisis in so many communities. 951 00:52:04,246 --> 00:52:07,082 We're in the midst of a prescription drug epidemic. 952 00:52:07,165 --> 00:52:09,876 So a lot of times people think that was just about opioids, 953 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,503 but it wasn't just about opioids. 954 00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:15,549 Rapper Lil Xan, that's short for Xanax, 955 00:52:15,632 --> 00:52:17,217 is one of the more than 50 artists 956 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:19,761 we found who reference Xanax in their music. 957 00:52:19,845 --> 00:52:21,930 I was probably taking... 958 00:52:22,013 --> 00:52:25,100 ...12 two milligrams to 14 two milligrams a day. 959 00:52:26,017 --> 00:52:27,017 Wow. 960 00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:28,937 It was... It was really bad. 961 00:52:38,738 --> 00:52:41,032 That double-edged sword of... 962 00:52:41,950 --> 00:52:44,578 of acknowledging pain, or anxiety, 963 00:52:44,661 --> 00:52:47,455 or whatever it is, and not glamorizing it. 964 00:52:47,956 --> 00:52:51,710 It's a very sharp double-edged sword. It's just so easy to... 965 00:52:51,793 --> 00:52:53,628 to not walk... walk that line. 966 00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:56,882 And we don't give young people many tools for doing that. 967 00:52:56,965 --> 00:52:59,426 It wasn't long before Bobby mimicked his idols 968 00:52:59,509 --> 00:53:02,053 and swallowed his first pill in tenth grade. 969 00:53:02,762 --> 00:53:04,556 I got hooked the first pill I took. 970 00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,142 One phone call, one text away from getting it. Yeah. 971 00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:08,476 Any type of pill, basically. 972 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,521 Social media, now an essential tool 973 00:53:11,605 --> 00:53:13,815 to buy these pills online. 974 00:53:13,899 --> 00:53:17,235 Essentially, this is now... This can now be your dealer. 975 00:53:17,319 --> 00:53:21,114 By tapping a few things in, you can get Xanax easily. 976 00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:23,575 Those pills are all over the place. 977 00:53:23,658 --> 00:53:27,412 I found this account which is the 104 dealers 978 00:53:27,495 --> 00:53:29,122 that are using Snapchat, 979 00:53:29,206 --> 00:53:31,541 that you can contact if you just type in their name. 980 00:53:31,625 --> 00:53:33,710 So it's basically a drug dealers directory. 981 00:53:33,793 --> 00:53:36,254 Now we've got a lot of people in illicit laboratories, 982 00:53:36,338 --> 00:53:37,881 illegal laboratories, 983 00:53:37,964 --> 00:53:41,009 who are making these super potent versions of benzodiazepines. 984 00:53:41,092 --> 00:53:43,261 New information about a deadly drug. 985 00:53:43,345 --> 00:53:48,892 It's a small, white pill designed to look like the antianxiety drug, Xanax. 986 00:53:48,975 --> 00:53:51,728 But it is mixed with an extremely strong opioid 987 00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:52,812 called fentanyl. 988 00:53:52,896 --> 00:53:55,565 People can go online, and they can buy a pill press. 989 00:53:55,649 --> 00:53:57,192 They can buy the pill dye. 990 00:53:57,275 --> 00:54:01,196 This is going to be the fentanyl with any other cutting agent, 991 00:54:01,279 --> 00:54:03,740 and then as I spin the wheel... 992 00:54:04,824 --> 00:54:07,202 and then up comes the tablet. 993 00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:10,372 You can have two pills that you bought from your drug dealer, 994 00:54:10,455 --> 00:54:13,041 and one has a little bit more fentanyl than the other. 995 00:54:13,124 --> 00:54:15,418 And that one will be the one that ends your life. 996 00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:19,965 The pills that are coming up from Mexico are professionally, uh, done. 997 00:54:20,048 --> 00:54:21,234 You can't tell the difference. 998 00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:24,469 The color's perfect, the markings are... are fine, 999 00:54:24,552 --> 00:54:26,179 and the texture of the... of the pill... 1000 00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:29,057 They just look exactly like the real thing. Scary. 1001 00:54:29,641 --> 00:54:33,895 Celebrity TV therapist, Laura Berman, has revealed that her teenage son died 1002 00:54:33,979 --> 00:54:36,022 of a deadly drug overdose on Sunday. 1003 00:54:36,106 --> 00:54:38,358 You said you think it was fentanyl laced with something. 1004 00:54:38,441 --> 00:54:42,320 Was he in any kind of pain that he'd be taking these drugs to begin with? 1005 00:54:42,404 --> 00:54:44,906 - Do you think he knew what he was taking? - No. He... 1006 00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:45,865 No. 1007 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:48,285 In the last ten years, what we have often seen 1008 00:54:48,368 --> 00:54:51,496 is that most overdoses are not just one substance. 1009 00:54:51,579 --> 00:54:53,957 It's usually a combination of different medications. 1010 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,711 A benzodiazepine is not very dangerous when taken in high amounts alone, 1011 00:54:57,794 --> 00:54:59,671 but when you combine it with opioids, 1012 00:54:59,754 --> 00:55:02,173 that's essentially anesthesia and is very dangerous. 1013 00:55:02,257 --> 00:55:04,944 Because then you have a double-depressant effect. 1014 00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:07,846 So you can actually have a cardiac emergency. 1015 00:55:07,929 --> 00:55:09,389 You can die. You can stop breathing. 1016 00:55:10,015 --> 00:55:11,391 He was only twenty-one. 1017 00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:14,519 A popular YouTube star and emerging rapper, 1018 00:55:14,602 --> 00:55:17,147 Lil Peep, died last night. 1019 00:55:17,230 --> 00:55:19,774 There's just so many deaths in the news, 1020 00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:23,028 um, that have to do with painkillers or benzodiazepines. 1021 00:55:23,111 --> 00:55:25,280 They're struggling so much with that perfect storm 1022 00:55:25,363 --> 00:55:28,491 of pain and anxiety, and needing to dull it and get through somehow. 1023 00:55:29,951 --> 00:55:31,831 I looked in the mirror and I'm like... 1024 00:55:31,870 --> 00:55:33,747 it was just that moment, you know, like, 1025 00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:35,874 "If I keep doing this, I'm gonna die soon." 1026 00:55:35,957 --> 00:55:38,710 So I just quit, cold turkey, 1027 00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:42,130 and I actually ended up having a few seizures, 1028 00:55:42,213 --> 00:55:43,715 and I landed in the hospital. 1029 00:55:43,798 --> 00:55:46,968 After numerous attempts, Xan told us he got clean. 1030 00:55:47,052 --> 00:55:49,721 So I wanted to make a movement, Xanarchy, 1031 00:55:49,804 --> 00:55:52,974 about just nothing but anti-Xan use, 1032 00:55:53,058 --> 00:55:54,934 and that's really what I'm trying to promote. 1033 00:55:55,018 --> 00:55:58,897 I think that we need to start holding each other and ourselves accountable 1034 00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:03,026 for our glorification of the drug culture, one hundred percent. 1035 00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:08,406 ♪ Don't give me the Xannie now, or ever... ♪ 1036 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,493 I did not like growing up with people I really loved 1037 00:56:11,576 --> 00:56:13,703 and then them turning into people they weren't. 1038 00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:16,873 It's just weird to watch, and I don't wanna have people die anymore. 1039 00:56:16,956 --> 00:56:18,236 I don't want people to die, due. 1040 00:56:18,291 --> 00:56:20,210 Kids are the canaries in the coal mine now. 1041 00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:24,255 They are definitely the signs that things are not okay... in our world. 1042 00:56:24,339 --> 00:56:27,675 My clinic has become about 50% a "de-prescribing" clinic, 1043 00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:29,928 meaning I'm having more and more patients coming in 1044 00:56:30,011 --> 00:56:33,640 or being referred for help getting off of opioids 1045 00:56:33,723 --> 00:56:36,059 or benzodiazepines or both. 1046 00:56:36,142 --> 00:56:38,311 It's confusing for the patients too, 1047 00:56:38,395 --> 00:56:40,897 because patients who are dependent upon the medications, 1048 00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:44,526 who take them long-term, they can't imagine a life without it. 1049 00:56:44,609 --> 00:56:46,694 And it may not even be they're without anxiety 1050 00:56:46,778 --> 00:56:48,113 or that they're doing well, 1051 00:56:48,196 --> 00:56:51,282 but they just can't function without the medicines. 1052 00:56:51,366 --> 00:56:53,660 The idea of it is terribly frightening to them. 1053 00:56:53,743 --> 00:56:55,745 And that's really the withdrawal symptoms. 1054 00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:58,081 That's the nature of tolerance and withdrawal. 1055 00:57:17,976 --> 00:57:21,604 It's a good thing I took chemistry in college. 1056 00:57:26,317 --> 00:57:29,904 This isn't anything that any doctor is gonna teach you how to do. 1057 00:57:32,073 --> 00:57:34,701 That's called a liquid micro taper. 1058 00:57:36,035 --> 00:57:38,329 And what it allows you to do is to... 1059 00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:43,293 reduce your dose by a tiny, tiny fraction... 1060 00:57:44,377 --> 00:57:45,712 every day. 1061 00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:48,131 If you go too fast, 1062 00:57:49,132 --> 00:57:53,595 you can go into a state of complete terror. 1063 00:57:57,807 --> 00:58:00,059 These chemicals are so powerful, 1064 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,398 even tapering slowly like this takes... years. 1065 00:58:19,787 --> 00:58:22,373 So from center line to top of rail? 1066 00:58:22,457 --> 00:58:24,250 - Five foot one. - Five-one. 1067 00:58:24,334 --> 00:58:26,174 Tell me when you're ready for number one. 1068 00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:27,295 Go for it. 1069 00:58:27,378 --> 00:58:30,507 All right, over here we're looking at... two foot six. 1070 00:58:30,590 --> 00:58:31,758 Two-six. 1071 00:58:33,801 --> 00:58:35,553 So I work with the state of Michigan, 1072 00:58:35,637 --> 00:58:38,932 and the program that I work in is to become a civil engineer. 1073 00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:43,978 I've had it for three years now, this job, and it's, um, 1074 00:58:44,062 --> 00:58:47,607 you know, it's a big-girl job. I got it right when I turned 18. 1075 00:58:48,775 --> 00:58:52,695 And it was nice to have people rely on me for, uh, certain things. 1076 00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:54,280 Stressful, no doubt, 1077 00:58:54,364 --> 00:58:57,367 but it was the right amount of stress to push me to get it done. 1078 00:58:57,450 --> 00:58:59,118 Wasn't so much that I was overwhelmed. 1079 00:59:00,078 --> 00:59:02,830 Most of the people who are very anti-Xanax, 1080 00:59:02,914 --> 00:59:06,751 get that idea from the recreational use of it. 1081 00:59:06,834 --> 00:59:10,421 For people like me, when you kind of see people using it 1082 00:59:10,505 --> 00:59:12,090 in the wrong way, it's like, 1083 00:59:12,173 --> 00:59:16,219 "If you only knew what it could do to someone who really needs it." 1084 00:59:18,596 --> 00:59:20,557 I take one milligram daily, 1085 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,975 and that was my starting dose, 1086 00:59:22,058 --> 00:59:25,019 and it's been my dose this whole entire time. 1087 00:59:26,229 --> 00:59:29,566 It can be addictive. Um, it's not in my case, 1088 00:59:30,441 --> 00:59:34,112 but psychologically, yes. 1089 00:59:34,195 --> 00:59:37,198 I mean, it's always gonna be, "If I don't have that, what do I do?" 1090 00:59:37,282 --> 00:59:39,492 I mean, it is easy to... to become... 1091 00:59:40,118 --> 00:59:43,246 totally, 100% dependent on a drug, 1092 00:59:43,329 --> 00:59:44,872 and I don't... 1093 00:59:44,956 --> 00:59:48,585 Even if it's a helpful drug, that's, um, a scary thought. 1094 00:59:48,668 --> 00:59:51,129 "What if you run out of it?" Or "What if someone takes it?" 1095 00:59:51,212 --> 00:59:53,423 Or "What if you forget it?" Then what do you do? 1096 00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:55,883 And that thought terrifies me. 1097 00:59:55,967 --> 00:59:58,720 Medication is... it can be really important for people, 1098 00:59:58,803 --> 01:00:02,432 and I do not want to underplay the importance that it can serve 1099 01:00:02,515 --> 01:00:04,767 to help people manage really overwhelming anxiety. 1100 01:00:04,851 --> 01:00:07,145 What it does is it brings us back to a baseline, 1101 01:00:07,228 --> 01:00:09,022 it brings us back to being more ourselves, 1102 01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:12,275 but the minute you go off them, unless you've gotten other treatments, 1103 01:00:12,942 --> 01:00:14,485 the anxiety goes up again. 1104 01:00:15,278 --> 01:00:20,700 When my mom got sick, we found out it was advanced colon cancer. 1105 01:00:20,783 --> 01:00:22,118 Ran to the airport. 1106 01:00:22,201 --> 01:00:26,456 We basically lived in Boston, myself, my Dad, and my sister. 1107 01:00:27,332 --> 01:00:29,959 Every single time I went away, I was like, "Is this it?" 1108 01:00:30,043 --> 01:00:32,795 And those thoughts kept going and going and going, 1109 01:00:32,879 --> 01:00:36,174 which was really where I had my first panic attack. 1110 01:00:36,257 --> 01:00:38,551 It was because I had to come down for work. 1111 01:00:38,635 --> 01:00:42,930 And I was supposed to give a presentation, and I just had a full breakdown 1112 01:00:43,014 --> 01:00:45,600 and found myself in our company's bathroom, 1113 01:00:45,683 --> 01:00:48,144 hyperventilating, thinking I was having a heart attack. 1114 01:00:48,227 --> 01:00:50,688 I was like, "This is... Oh my God." 1115 01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,233 Um, like the kind that you just can't pull yourself out of. 1116 01:00:56,110 --> 01:00:59,113 Before my mom passed away, she wrote this letter. 1117 01:00:59,197 --> 01:01:02,492 She wrote a letter to all, my brother, my sister, and I and my dad. 1118 01:01:02,992 --> 01:01:07,955 Um, and in my letter, she said, "I'm sorry for putting you in a box, 1119 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:11,250 and I'm sorry for making you feel like you had to be something 1120 01:01:11,334 --> 01:01:13,336 that you were never going to be." And... 1121 01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:16,089 reading it, I was just... I broke down. 1122 01:01:16,172 --> 01:01:17,674 I was just like, "Yeah." 1123 01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:22,220 And that's what made me feel so tense and so anxious for so long too, 1124 01:01:22,303 --> 01:01:25,682 because you're expected to be a certain way. For me, it was like, 1125 01:01:25,765 --> 01:01:28,685 "Okay, you're not expected to be as flamboyant as you want to be." 1126 01:01:28,768 --> 01:01:30,848 "You're a person of color. Why do you talk that way?" 1127 01:01:30,895 --> 01:01:33,356 "You're expected to talk like this. I expected this." 1128 01:01:33,439 --> 01:01:37,985 My mom passed in, like, August, and then that's really where... 1129 01:01:38,861 --> 01:01:40,947 everything bubbled up to the top. 1130 01:01:41,531 --> 01:01:43,157 There's just this feeling of, 1131 01:01:43,783 --> 01:01:47,078 "I have myself, and I need to figure this out." 1132 01:01:47,161 --> 01:01:48,287 Um... 1133 01:01:49,163 --> 01:01:51,874 And that's when I was like, "I need therapy." 1134 01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:54,293 If you know there are things that make you anxious, 1135 01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:55,837 and they're not going away, 1136 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,632 it becomes really important to just remember the very basics. 1137 01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:01,259 I mean, first of all, breathe. 1138 01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:07,056 Getting appropriate hours of sleep. 1139 01:02:08,141 --> 01:02:10,727 I really encourage people to sleep a ton. 1140 01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:12,061 There's exercise. 1141 01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:17,024 And getting outside as much as possible. 1142 01:02:17,775 --> 01:02:20,194 Getting exercise and getting sunshine. 1143 01:02:21,112 --> 01:02:23,072 Doing things like yoga or meditation. 1144 01:02:23,156 --> 01:02:25,366 Meditation has been really helpful for me. 1145 01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:30,288 We know that actually creating a biological state of relaxation, 1146 01:02:30,371 --> 01:02:33,040 it actually disrupts an anxious experience. 1147 01:02:33,124 --> 01:02:37,170 So you cannot be relaxed, um, and anxious at the same time. 1148 01:02:37,253 --> 01:02:38,838 There are other medications 1149 01:02:38,921 --> 01:02:41,215 that are not habit-forming in the same way. 1150 01:02:41,299 --> 01:02:43,301 The Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, 1151 01:02:43,384 --> 01:02:46,262 they don't cure anxiety in the moment, 1152 01:02:46,345 --> 01:02:49,891 but they lower the overall anxiety quotient 1153 01:02:49,974 --> 01:02:52,852 to make people less likely to have panic attacks. 1154 01:02:52,935 --> 01:02:54,937 You know, I'm a psychiatrist in New York City, 1155 01:02:55,021 --> 01:02:57,815 and of course, I write prescriptions for antidepressants, 1156 01:02:57,899 --> 01:02:59,484 and for antianxiety meds. 1157 01:03:00,276 --> 01:03:03,362 But I also like to talk to my patients about cannabis-based medicines 1158 01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,907 because it can be very helpful for anxiety. 1159 01:03:07,116 --> 01:03:10,203 You're not disinhibited. You're not cloudy. 1160 01:03:10,286 --> 01:03:12,371 You still very much have your wits about you, 1161 01:03:12,455 --> 01:03:14,957 but you can sort of handle stress a little bit better. 1162 01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:17,668 We know a lot about the treatment of these disorders, 1163 01:03:17,752 --> 01:03:20,546 and the most successful treatments with the best evidence base 1164 01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:23,049 tend to be the cognitive behavioral therapies. 1165 01:03:23,132 --> 01:03:28,095 So the techniques tend to focus on these systematic habits of thinking, 1166 01:03:28,179 --> 01:03:29,889 of behaving, the choices we make. 1167 01:03:29,972 --> 01:03:32,600 And they also create a new mindset, I think, 1168 01:03:32,683 --> 01:03:35,102 about how we think about our distress. 1169 01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:39,398 Having that additional layer, that sort of little voice 1170 01:03:39,482 --> 01:03:42,568 that therapy grows for you that says, "Hey, it's okay." 1171 01:03:42,652 --> 01:03:45,905 "You're feeling your feelings right now. And it's okay to feel feelings." 1172 01:03:45,988 --> 01:03:49,033 "Feelings are not facts. Thoughts are not facts." 1173 01:03:49,575 --> 01:03:51,786 "All you have to do is keep going through today, 1174 01:03:51,869 --> 01:03:53,246 and then tomorrow will happen, 1175 01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:55,289 and eventually, there'll be enough tomorrows 1176 01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:57,583 that you won't be feeling this anymore." 1177 01:03:57,667 --> 01:03:59,877 And it's just enough to keep going. 1178 01:03:59,961 --> 01:04:01,838 Because, ultimately, when you're experiencing 1179 01:04:01,921 --> 01:04:05,216 those really difficult times, you just have to keep going. 1180 01:04:07,218 --> 01:04:10,137 It's become so apparent during the pandemic, 1181 01:04:10,221 --> 01:04:13,683 but social connection is one of the most powerful ways 1182 01:04:13,766 --> 01:04:15,476 to disrupt anxiety. 1183 01:04:17,228 --> 01:04:21,274 Loneliness is one of the biggest, um, detriments, 1184 01:04:21,357 --> 01:04:23,317 not only to mental health, but to physical health. 1185 01:04:25,069 --> 01:04:27,238 I experienced a divorce this year, 1186 01:04:27,321 --> 01:04:31,117 and between the revelations that ended my marriage 1187 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,953 and being faced with starting my life all over again, 1188 01:04:34,036 --> 01:04:36,831 I ended up again in a depression-anxiety cycle. 1189 01:04:37,957 --> 01:04:39,208 I hadn't told my mom. 1190 01:04:39,292 --> 01:04:42,587 I hadn't told my best friends about what had happened in my marriage. 1191 01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:45,923 I was just trying to focus on meditation and journaling, 1192 01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:47,049 and "I'll go to therapy, 1193 01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:50,636 and do all the things I can do to try to deal with this," 1194 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,473 when really the thing I needed to do was lean on the women in my life 1195 01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:56,475 who loved me enough to help me through it. 1196 01:05:00,771 --> 01:05:04,150 In whatever way we can find connection that's authentic... 1197 01:05:04,233 --> 01:05:06,819 I mean, forget everything else I said, 1198 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,238 that's probably the best thing we can do. 1199 01:05:09,322 --> 01:05:14,160 But the truth is, normal responses to abnormal environments, 1200 01:05:14,243 --> 01:05:18,164 uh, that... that you don't have to say is a disease. 1201 01:05:18,247 --> 01:05:19,665 In some ways, 1202 01:05:19,749 --> 01:05:24,170 instead of fixing our world and the real problems in it, 1203 01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:27,048 we're using psychotropics 1204 01:05:27,131 --> 01:05:30,718 to have people just sort of accept 1205 01:05:30,801 --> 01:05:33,596 the broken world that we're offering them. 1206 01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:34,722 The Great Resignation. 1207 01:05:34,805 --> 01:05:37,975 That's what experts are calling the growing trend of workers quitting 1208 01:05:38,059 --> 01:05:39,226 or just changing careers. 1209 01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:42,647 Americans are retiring in greater numbers too. 1210 01:05:42,730 --> 01:05:45,858 The push to shorten the work week from five days to four, 1211 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:47,485 gaining momentum around the globe. 1212 01:05:47,568 --> 01:05:50,112 Clearly, this pandemic has transformed 1213 01:05:50,196 --> 01:05:55,534 the way that Americans are wanting to work and the work that they're willing to do. 1214 01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:59,205 We are building a movement to address mental health in America. 1215 01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:04,710 We want to build a society where no person has to feel isolated 1216 01:06:04,794 --> 01:06:06,963 and shamed because of their struggles. 1217 01:06:07,046 --> 01:06:10,841 We want to build a world where anyone who needs help can get it. 1218 01:06:10,925 --> 01:06:13,344 We don't want to be just reactive to mental illness. 1219 01:06:13,427 --> 01:06:15,846 We want to be proactive about mental well-being. 1220 01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:17,431 New generations of athletes, 1221 01:06:17,515 --> 01:06:21,435 including Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka, are speaking out about mental health. 1222 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:23,729 We go through our own things, and it's hard. 1223 01:06:23,813 --> 01:06:26,691 You don't even realize how many people you're helping, 1224 01:06:26,774 --> 01:06:29,735 even though you're sitting in this really tough moment. 1225 01:06:29,819 --> 01:06:32,613 Mental health has everything to do 1226 01:06:32,697 --> 01:06:37,368 with everything that we live and breathe 1227 01:06:37,451 --> 01:06:40,663 and... and realize in our lives, you know, 1228 01:06:40,746 --> 01:06:44,375 whether, you know, we're in circumstances that are favorable for us 1229 01:06:44,458 --> 01:06:46,085 or unfavorable, right? 1230 01:06:46,168 --> 01:06:48,045 Like, mental health is everything. 1231 01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:50,965 Oh my God. I can't. Stay still, heart. He says, 1232 01:06:51,048 --> 01:06:53,926 "Thanks for providing a safe space for people like me." I can't. 1233 01:06:56,137 --> 01:06:58,055 He's so sweet. 1234 01:06:58,139 --> 01:07:03,144 It started with an Instagram post that said, "Free Therapy For Black Men." 1235 01:07:03,227 --> 01:07:05,813 I thought it'd be hard to get Black men to come to therapy 1236 01:07:05,896 --> 01:07:09,066 because that's what all the media and everything would have you believe, 1237 01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:10,192 and that was not the case. 1238 01:07:10,276 --> 01:07:12,737 Um, actually, we started kind of backwards 1239 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:15,990 because when we put out Free Therapy For Black Men, 1240 01:07:16,073 --> 01:07:18,200 initially, within that first two days, 1241 01:07:18,284 --> 01:07:20,870 we had 50 men who are like, "I want the free therapy." 1242 01:07:20,953 --> 01:07:24,623 And we were like, "Wait a minute. We didn't think this all the way through." 1243 01:07:25,207 --> 01:07:27,084 We give them eight free individual sessions. 1244 01:07:27,668 --> 01:07:31,380 Right now, 75% of them continue on with the therapy, 1245 01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:33,215 after it's no longer free. 1246 01:07:33,799 --> 01:07:36,635 And it's like, we're giving them that drink of water, 1247 01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:39,263 and that drink of water should be teaching them, 1248 01:07:39,346 --> 01:07:42,099 "Damn, I didn't even realize I was so thirsty." Right? 1249 01:07:42,183 --> 01:07:45,269 And so now, even when we go take the water away, 1250 01:07:45,352 --> 01:07:48,689 it's like, "Oh. But you know what?" Yeah, that might be the next shirt. 1251 01:07:50,191 --> 01:07:52,943 One thing I've been talking to my patients about for a while 1252 01:07:53,027 --> 01:07:54,528 is this idea of flow. 1253 01:07:54,612 --> 01:07:58,074 That you can lose yourself in doing something, 1254 01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:01,452 and it can be anything. But whatever it is you're doing, 1255 01:08:01,535 --> 01:08:05,956 you've totally put yourself in the doing, and you lose yourself in the doing, 1256 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,167 and there's something else bigger than you. 1257 01:08:12,797 --> 01:08:17,093 Twelve years ago, we had gone to this horse ranch, 1258 01:08:17,176 --> 01:08:21,097 and they had a mission of rescue horses. 1259 01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:24,809 I think they're up to 60 rescue horses, 1260 01:08:24,892 --> 01:08:29,522 where most of them have been in bad situations of one type or another. 1261 01:08:29,605 --> 01:08:31,982 Then we found out they were looking for volunteers. 1262 01:08:32,066 --> 01:08:34,860 I thought, "Okay, in the middle of a pandemic, 1263 01:08:34,944 --> 01:08:38,823 when the gyms are shut down, and we can't go out to eat, 1264 01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:42,201 and we can't do anything. We can't socialize." 1265 01:08:42,785 --> 01:08:47,915 "Maybe this outdoor volunteer work could be a good thing to do." 1266 01:08:47,998 --> 01:08:51,794 The volunteers come out and clean up the paddocks, 1267 01:08:51,877 --> 01:08:54,380 and groom the horses, and take them for walks. 1268 01:08:55,131 --> 01:08:59,468 Being able to be outside, doing physical work for a good cause, 1269 01:08:59,552 --> 01:09:01,887 getting to bond with animals again, 1270 01:09:01,971 --> 01:09:05,975 just everything about it completely has gelled 1271 01:09:06,058 --> 01:09:09,145 to get out of my house, get out of myself, 1272 01:09:09,228 --> 01:09:12,815 and go do some hard work and get some fresh air. 1273 01:09:12,898 --> 01:09:15,693 Having a bad day and hugging a horse 1274 01:09:15,776 --> 01:09:17,903 is really a wonderful thing. 1275 01:09:22,867 --> 01:09:26,620 I need more of a stimulus outside of myself to focus in on, 1276 01:09:27,663 --> 01:09:30,249 so I took up flower arranging. 1277 01:09:32,251 --> 01:09:35,045 There's just something so peaceful about that process for me, 1278 01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:37,298 from going and sorting through the flowers, 1279 01:09:37,381 --> 01:09:41,427 and looking at the flowers and the colors, and it's all very tactile. 1280 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:45,181 And realize I need those tactile things 1281 01:09:45,264 --> 01:09:47,683 to sort of cope and to calm myself. 1282 01:09:50,895 --> 01:09:53,272 So much of my anxiety is rooted in 1283 01:09:53,814 --> 01:09:57,401 feeling like you're not gonna accomplish something 1284 01:09:57,484 --> 01:10:00,446 or... that what you're doing is wrong. 1285 01:10:01,864 --> 01:10:04,867 The things that bring me peace are these things where I'm like, 1286 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:06,368 "I'm making for myself." 1287 01:10:06,452 --> 01:10:10,956 So there's no one that's gonna look at it and judge it or critique it. 1288 01:10:12,291 --> 01:10:13,626 Expectations. 1289 01:10:14,710 --> 01:10:16,545 There's so much weight to them, 1290 01:10:16,629 --> 01:10:19,924 and when you can sort of let 'em go a little bit, 1291 01:10:20,424 --> 01:10:22,343 there's a freeing feeling to it. 1292 01:10:22,426 --> 01:10:26,513 That doesn't look good. Yeah, it's all trial and error. 1293 01:10:26,597 --> 01:10:28,224 Anxiety is holistic, 1294 01:10:28,307 --> 01:10:31,185 and what it tells you is that your mind and body are one. 1295 01:10:31,268 --> 01:10:33,562 That is really the insight that anxiety gives us, 1296 01:10:33,646 --> 01:10:36,690 that our body and our mind are in service of each other, 1297 01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:37,816 and they're reciprocal. 1298 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:42,446 The problem with you taking a Xanax every time you get anxious 1299 01:10:42,529 --> 01:10:45,449 is that you're not building up the mental calluses 1300 01:10:45,532 --> 01:10:48,661 that you need to tolerate more anxiety. 1301 01:10:48,744 --> 01:10:52,331 Because if you're squelching that experience of anxiety, 1302 01:10:52,414 --> 01:10:56,252 you miss the opportunity to learn how to cope with it on your own. 1303 01:10:56,335 --> 01:10:58,295 So there's an opportunity cost of benzodiazepines. 1304 01:10:58,379 --> 01:11:02,007 I'd say I probably take them as needed. Um... 1305 01:11:02,091 --> 01:11:03,884 Probably a couple times a month. 1306 01:11:03,968 --> 01:11:07,513 I really think it's more at this point, "I know I have it if I need it." 1307 01:11:07,596 --> 01:11:10,683 If the diet and the exercise and the volunteering, 1308 01:11:10,766 --> 01:11:13,018 and if my resources fail, 1309 01:11:13,102 --> 01:11:16,021 or if life ramps up to an out-of-control level, 1310 01:11:16,105 --> 01:11:17,731 then I've got another tool. 1311 01:11:18,732 --> 01:11:21,235 For me, with Xanax, it never really addressed 1312 01:11:21,318 --> 01:11:24,196 the lingering anxiety that's just sort of always there. 1313 01:11:24,863 --> 01:11:27,491 And the first time I tried Klonopin, it was a different feeling. 1314 01:11:27,574 --> 01:11:30,536 Say it's a smoother type of anxiety relief, 1315 01:11:30,619 --> 01:11:33,914 versus Xanax, which is really like a hit to the face. It happens fast. 1316 01:11:33,998 --> 01:11:36,375 That's the reason people don't party on Klonopin. 1317 01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:38,294 Klonopin is not a party drug. 1318 01:11:38,377 --> 01:11:42,715 I still take, um, Lexapro, which is an SSRI antidepressant, 1319 01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:45,509 um, kind of a... a moderate dosage of that. 1320 01:11:45,592 --> 01:11:49,013 And then I have cut way, way back on benzos, 1321 01:11:49,096 --> 01:11:51,765 um, to the point where I try not to take them. 1322 01:11:51,849 --> 01:11:54,935 If you're not confronting your anxiety head-on, if you're doing it 1323 01:11:55,019 --> 01:11:59,189 mediated through a Xanax that you took, you're not really confronting it. 1324 01:11:59,273 --> 01:12:01,567 The only way out is through. Really. 1325 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:04,778 What's gonna get you on the other side of the anxiety 1326 01:12:04,862 --> 01:12:09,074 is to actually go through it and experience it and understand it 1327 01:12:09,158 --> 01:12:11,160 and make some sort of peace with it. 1328 01:12:11,243 --> 01:12:12,536 On the other hand, 1329 01:12:12,619 --> 01:12:17,499 there is something awfully stigmatizing and shaming for someone to say, 1330 01:12:17,583 --> 01:12:20,669 "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, just do it," if you can't. 1331 01:12:20,753 --> 01:12:24,757 You wouldn't tell someone with diabetes, "Make your pancreas work better. Come on!" 1332 01:12:28,927 --> 01:12:31,889 You know... Xanax is obviously 1333 01:12:31,972 --> 01:12:33,557 one of those drugs that 1334 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,268 kind of raise people's eyebrows a bit. 1335 01:12:37,644 --> 01:12:41,940 And there is a part of me, um, you know, that really resents the fact 1336 01:12:42,024 --> 01:12:45,319 that I need... something other than myself to help. 1337 01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:47,529 And it's... 1338 01:12:47,613 --> 01:12:51,450 I think the stubborn part of me really doesn't want to be on it, um, 1339 01:12:52,493 --> 01:12:54,328 for an incredibly long time. 1340 01:12:54,411 --> 01:12:57,998 I'd love to be able to figure out how to do it without... without Xanax, 1341 01:12:58,082 --> 01:13:00,125 but for now, um... 1342 01:13:01,877 --> 01:13:05,839 it has done its job, and I'm very thankful for it. 1343 01:13:05,923 --> 01:13:08,926 What is insidious about benzodiazepines is how well they work. 1344 01:13:09,009 --> 01:13:13,055 Our society may not be very forgiving of people who have anxiety or depression, 1345 01:13:13,138 --> 01:13:14,681 but we've all got that inside of us. 1346 01:13:14,765 --> 01:13:18,352 And when people get exposed to that benzodiazepine for the first time, 1347 01:13:18,435 --> 01:13:19,978 boy, ever does it make it go away. 1348 01:13:20,062 --> 01:13:22,064 And then it sets them up to think, 1349 01:13:22,147 --> 01:13:24,942 "I don't have to feel that way all the time, so I shouldn't, 1350 01:13:25,025 --> 01:13:26,568 and now I want more benzodiazepines." 1351 01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:28,904 I believe that benzodiazepines erode, 1352 01:13:28,987 --> 01:13:32,157 the resilience that we must rely upon at some point in our lives 1353 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:35,869 to manage distress, anxiety, difficult situations, 1354 01:13:35,953 --> 01:13:38,956 and just the painful aspects of being a human being. 1355 01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:41,750 Resilience is kind of the key to everything 1356 01:13:41,834 --> 01:13:43,585 in terms of not just anxiety, 1357 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:46,255 but mental health generally, surviving in the world, 1358 01:13:46,338 --> 01:13:50,300 tolerating the existential reality of the way things are. 1359 01:13:50,884 --> 01:13:54,221 Whether you're talking about living through Covid, or our own mortality, 1360 01:13:54,304 --> 01:13:56,849 or the fact that I have an anxiety disorder. 1361 01:13:56,932 --> 01:14:00,144 Acceptance is key. And the closer you can come to that, 1362 01:14:00,227 --> 01:14:03,564 the closer you will be to mental health and contentment. 1363 01:14:03,647 --> 01:14:07,234 Looking back on it, I don't know that I had any anxiety 1364 01:14:07,317 --> 01:14:11,864 that was really any different than what the average person goes through. 1365 01:14:11,947 --> 01:14:15,075 Just the transition from high school to college, 1366 01:14:15,784 --> 01:14:18,370 I just felt a little, um, lost. 1367 01:14:18,912 --> 01:14:21,582 One of the first things I did was go into student health. 1368 01:14:22,082 --> 01:14:27,921 I just vividly remember, you know, having, a prescription in hand 1369 01:14:28,005 --> 01:14:31,175 and thinking, "I'm an adult now." 1370 01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:34,386 "This is what student health has recommended that I take," 1371 01:14:35,137 --> 01:14:36,555 and that's what I did. 1372 01:14:37,389 --> 01:14:38,474 Yeah, life is hard, 1373 01:14:38,557 --> 01:14:41,268 and somehow we've sort of forgotten that, 1374 01:14:41,351 --> 01:14:43,520 and if we're not happy, then something's wrong, 1375 01:14:43,604 --> 01:14:45,439 and we need to change it or take a pill. 1376 01:14:45,522 --> 01:14:50,444 Our job is not to take away all of our patients' pain and suffering, 1377 01:14:50,527 --> 01:14:52,905 but to make that suffering tolerable 1378 01:14:53,489 --> 01:14:55,949 so that they can still find a life worth living. 1379 01:14:56,950 --> 01:15:00,662 There's a phenomenon in withdrawal called windows. 1380 01:15:02,956 --> 01:15:05,918 This is when your symptoms melt away. 1381 01:15:07,252 --> 01:15:11,215 And I was at the playground with my son, 1382 01:15:11,298 --> 01:15:12,883 just out of nowhere, 1383 01:15:12,966 --> 01:15:15,344 the ringing in my ears went quiet, 1384 01:15:15,427 --> 01:15:18,805 the pressure in my head just vanished. 1385 01:15:19,389 --> 01:15:23,143 And I just had this incredible sense of calm come over me. 1386 01:15:23,644 --> 01:15:25,562 It was like something I'd never experienced 1387 01:15:25,646 --> 01:15:26,980 my entire adult life. 1388 01:15:28,065 --> 01:15:32,277 And I've been on a benzodiazepine my entire adult life. 1389 01:15:33,487 --> 01:15:36,365 So if that's what life is like after benzos, 1390 01:15:37,157 --> 01:15:38,450 I... I can't wait. 1391 01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:41,328 I... I can't wait. 1392 01:15:43,914 --> 01:15:45,832 Let's go. 1393 01:15:45,916 --> 01:15:48,627 Yes! Easy. Yes. 1394 01:15:49,294 --> 01:15:50,587 - Yes! - Good job. 1395 01:15:52,756 --> 01:15:54,076 - Yes! - It was awesome. 1396 01:15:54,132 --> 01:15:57,886 I worked really hard to change a lot of aspects of my life 1397 01:15:57,970 --> 01:16:01,723 so that I wasn't experiencing anxiety as intensely. 1398 01:16:01,807 --> 01:16:06,603 Learning how to cope with the world is a journey. 1399 01:16:06,687 --> 01:16:09,523 It's not something where you take a pill, and then it's fine. 1400 01:16:09,606 --> 01:16:11,608 It's something that you learn to do over time, 1401 01:16:11,692 --> 01:16:16,238 and the messy work is what allows me to show up here looking all cute, 1402 01:16:16,321 --> 01:16:18,574 like I have everything, uh, handled. 1403 01:16:18,657 --> 01:16:21,410 Um, there will be times when I have to go back 1404 01:16:21,493 --> 01:16:23,662 and do more messy work, and I'm okay with that. 1405 01:16:23,745 --> 01:16:25,998 And... yeah. 117423

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