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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 02:53:25,417 --> 02:53:26,658 "Critters". 2 02:53:27,486 --> 02:53:28,634 They bite. 3 02:53:28,658 --> 02:53:31,013 People kept trashing "Critters" 4 02:53:31,037 --> 02:53:34,175 for being a bad cheap imitation of "Gremlins". 5 02:53:35,968 --> 02:53:37,979 They're not the same movie. 6 02:53:38,003 --> 02:53:41,900 No, the critters are fucking gonna eat you alive, man. 7 02:53:47,831 --> 02:53:51,151 It's attitude with an emphasis on the drama. 8 02:53:51,175 --> 02:53:52,496 I didn't even do nothing. 9 02:53:52,520 --> 02:53:55,462 Boy, you shot her with a slingshot. 10 02:53:55,486 --> 02:53:58,255 It's really just the way Stephen Herek approached it, 11 02:53:58,279 --> 02:53:59,634 and took it seriously. 12 02:53:59,658 --> 02:54:01,324 We want the Krites. 13 02:54:01,348 --> 02:54:02,531 Oh really? 14 02:54:02,555 --> 02:54:05,358 Who are they, some new team? 15 02:54:05,382 --> 02:54:07,738 It acts like a studio movie, 16 02:54:07,762 --> 02:54:10,382 and it's a $2 million little independent. 17 02:54:12,831 --> 02:54:15,082 I love the little country family, 18 02:54:15,106 --> 02:54:18,037 completely innocent of everything. 19 02:54:24,589 --> 02:54:27,003 And boy, Dee Wallace gives it her best. 20 02:54:31,348 --> 02:54:33,244 Get out of my house! 21 02:54:34,486 --> 02:54:36,244 We had so much fun on "Critters". 22 02:54:37,382 --> 02:54:39,944 I loved working with Stephen Herek. 23 02:54:39,968 --> 02:54:42,324 He was so easy to work with. 24 02:54:42,348 --> 02:54:43,944 Always knew what he wanted. 25 02:54:43,968 --> 02:54:45,531 And it was a tough shoot, 26 02:54:45,555 --> 02:54:48,279 because we worked mostly nights. 27 02:54:55,451 --> 02:54:57,324 The creature designs in "Critters" 28 02:54:57,348 --> 02:55:00,417 I remember thinking were really funny when I was a kid. 29 02:55:02,727 --> 02:55:07,727 Little creepy yet adorable balls of spikiness, 30 02:55:09,072 --> 02:55:11,255 and they have really terrifying eyes and teeth, 31 02:55:11,279 --> 02:55:13,865 but that's what made them so fun. 32 02:55:18,382 --> 02:55:20,979 The Chiodo brothers of "Killer Klowns from Outer Space" 33 02:55:21,003 --> 02:55:23,486 fame created the Krites in "Critters". 34 02:55:24,934 --> 02:55:27,531 With "Critters" there is an element where you are scared 35 02:55:27,555 --> 02:55:29,220 because you don't know what's gonna happen. 36 02:55:29,244 --> 02:55:31,876 They just seem in it to destroy things 37 02:55:31,900 --> 02:55:32,968 and kill people. 38 02:55:34,968 --> 02:55:37,600 They didn't have the big critter finished. 39 02:55:37,624 --> 02:55:40,565 That's why in that one scene, you only see his eyes 40 02:55:40,589 --> 02:55:42,658 coming up through the window. 41 02:55:47,831 --> 02:55:50,531 It was hard to stay in the fear 42 02:55:50,555 --> 02:55:52,255 and everything that we had to do 43 02:55:52,279 --> 02:55:53,496 because it was pretty funny. 44 02:55:53,520 --> 02:55:56,358 We would be ready to do this hysterical scene, 45 02:55:56,382 --> 02:55:58,944 and Stephen would go okay, roll them in. 46 02:55:58,968 --> 02:56:02,289 Just roll the little balls 47 02:56:02,313 --> 02:56:04,279 across the set. 48 02:56:07,968 --> 02:56:11,358 I did not have anything to do with the Krite and E.T. scene. 49 02:56:11,382 --> 02:56:12,600 Nothing. 50 02:56:12,624 --> 02:56:14,669 And the fans that are really fans 51 02:56:14,693 --> 02:56:16,117 that are really knowledgeable, 52 02:56:16,141 --> 02:56:18,841 they just get off on all that stuff, and it's great. 53 02:56:18,865 --> 02:56:21,669 I think it's wonderful that directors 54 02:56:21,693 --> 02:56:25,106 throw in all those cross references. 55 02:56:28,900 --> 02:56:29,808 A lot of people make horror movies 56 02:56:29,832 --> 02:56:31,876 just because it's the easiest, 57 02:56:31,900 --> 02:56:33,979 or what they think will be the easiest 58 02:56:34,003 --> 02:56:37,462 stepping stone to a career or a paycheck or something. 59 02:56:37,486 --> 02:56:39,703 But there's a lot of love and craft in that movie 60 02:56:39,727 --> 02:56:41,451 that I really appreciate. 61 02:56:54,486 --> 02:56:57,565 "Manhunter". 62 02:56:57,589 --> 02:57:00,151 "Manhunter"'s based off the novel "Red Dragon" 63 02:57:00,175 --> 02:57:03,462 by Thomas Harris, who also made "Silence of the Lambs", 64 02:57:03,486 --> 02:57:05,531 and just like with "Silence of the Lambs", 65 02:57:05,555 --> 02:57:07,531 this is a movie that critics have to refer to 66 02:57:07,555 --> 02:57:09,565 as a thriller rather than a horror movie 67 02:57:09,589 --> 02:57:11,693 so they're allowed to like it. 68 02:57:14,796 --> 02:57:17,220 The movie is about a killer named the Tooth Fairy 69 02:57:17,244 --> 02:57:18,565 who bites people's faces. 70 02:57:18,589 --> 02:57:20,348 You can't call this a horror movie? 71 02:57:21,693 --> 02:57:22,693 Give a kiss. 72 02:57:27,279 --> 02:57:29,634 William Peterson plays a detective, Will Graham, 73 02:57:29,658 --> 02:57:31,496 who's investigating murders being committed 74 02:57:31,520 --> 02:57:33,669 by this killer, who we later learn is this guy 75 02:57:33,693 --> 02:57:35,358 called Francis Dollarhyde, 76 02:57:35,382 --> 02:57:37,772 and the reason the novel was called "Red Dragon" 77 02:57:37,796 --> 02:57:40,910 is because Dollarhyde worships this painting 78 02:57:40,934 --> 02:57:43,703 called the Red Dragon, and identifies himself 79 02:57:43,727 --> 02:57:45,048 as the Red Dragon. 80 02:57:45,072 --> 02:57:46,841 You will lie awake in fear 81 02:57:46,865 --> 02:57:49,013 of what the Red Dragon will do. 82 02:57:49,037 --> 02:57:51,358 Francis Dollarhyde's played by Tom Noonan 83 02:57:51,382 --> 02:57:54,082 who also played Frankenstein in "The Monster Squad", 84 02:57:54,106 --> 02:57:57,876 and he's a very, very effectively creepy villain. 85 02:57:57,900 --> 02:57:59,565 He's up there with Buffalo Bill 86 02:57:59,589 --> 02:58:01,876 from "Silence of the Lambs", in my opinion. 87 02:58:01,900 --> 02:58:03,634 Put the fucking lotion in the basket! 88 02:58:03,658 --> 02:58:06,048 As a testament to how scary Tom Noonan is, 89 02:58:06,072 --> 02:58:08,669 he can wear pantyhose over half of his face 90 02:58:08,693 --> 02:58:11,289 like he's Howie Mandel trying to blow up a glove 91 02:58:11,313 --> 02:58:13,393 with his nose, and still be scary. 92 02:58:13,417 --> 02:58:15,968 Well, here I am. 93 02:58:18,141 --> 02:58:20,324 This was the very first screen appearance 94 02:58:20,348 --> 02:58:22,117 of Hannibal Lecter, except this time 95 02:58:22,341 --> 02:58:25,789 he's played by Brian Cox, not Anthony Hopkins. 96 02:58:27,096 --> 02:58:30,176 And Cox as Lecter is a lot more subdued 97 02:58:30,200 --> 02:58:32,865 than Anthony Hopkins, but he still has 98 02:58:32,889 --> 02:58:35,003 this quiet menace about him. 99 02:58:35,027 --> 02:58:38,210 Would you like to leave me your home phone number? 100 02:58:38,234 --> 02:58:40,762 Even if he seems to be cooperating with you, 101 02:58:40,786 --> 02:58:42,348 he still never really lets you know 102 02:58:42,372 --> 02:58:44,141 what his true intentions are, 103 02:58:44,165 --> 02:58:46,865 but you can be rest assured that they're not good, 104 02:58:46,889 --> 02:58:48,796 and he's smarter than you are. 105 02:58:48,820 --> 02:58:49,728 I know that I'm not smarter than you. 106 02:58:49,752 --> 02:58:51,072 Then how did you catch me? 107 02:58:51,096 --> 02:58:52,486 You had disadvantages. 108 02:58:52,510 --> 02:58:53,762 What disadvantages? 109 02:58:53,786 --> 02:58:54,900 You're insane. 110 02:58:54,924 --> 02:58:56,417 At this point, Michael Mann was famous 111 02:58:56,441 --> 02:58:57,969 for the series Miami Vice, 112 02:58:57,993 --> 02:59:00,176 and this movie uses a lot of the same 113 02:59:00,200 --> 02:59:03,475 color scheme, a lot of the same use of music. 114 02:59:07,234 --> 02:59:10,244 In a way, this could almost be like a really scary 115 02:59:10,268 --> 02:59:12,038 extended episode of Miami Vice, 116 02:59:12,062 --> 02:59:14,038 and I think that kind of ended up overshadowing 117 02:59:14,062 --> 02:59:15,751 the movie a little bit. 118 02:59:27,027 --> 02:59:31,210 Wes Craven, a very groundbreaking filmmaker, 119 02:59:31,234 --> 02:59:32,624 whenever his name was on a film, 120 02:59:32,648 --> 02:59:35,107 I would always either go and see it or rent it. 121 02:59:35,131 --> 02:59:37,796 He definitely had a shaky track record. 122 02:59:37,820 --> 02:59:40,313 But it seemed like he was always looking 123 02:59:40,337 --> 02:59:42,613 to find something that would catch on. 124 02:59:44,131 --> 02:59:46,831 He was always doing these very interesting stories 125 02:59:46,855 --> 02:59:50,658 about how kids were dealing with a lot 126 02:59:50,682 --> 02:59:53,107 in terms of their family dynamics, and things like that, 127 02:59:53,131 --> 02:59:55,624 and we see that especially in the movie "Deadly Friend". 128 02:59:55,648 --> 02:59:57,820 "Deadly Friend". 129 02:59:58,958 --> 03:00:02,624 She can't live without you. 130 03:00:02,648 --> 03:00:07,003 "Deadly Friend" was adapted from a story called "Friend". 131 03:00:07,027 --> 03:00:09,038 They were trying to make this love story. 132 03:00:09,062 --> 03:00:10,555 A little bit of science fiction element, 133 03:00:10,579 --> 03:00:13,210 little bit of action, little bit of horror. 134 03:00:13,234 --> 03:00:14,451 We're pretty close approaching 135 03:00:14,475 --> 03:00:16,176 the way a normal human brain works. 136 03:00:16,200 --> 03:00:18,038 "Deadly Friend" is about a guy named Paul 137 03:00:18,062 --> 03:00:19,486 who is a genius. 138 03:00:19,510 --> 03:00:22,268 He's created this robot friend named BB, 139 03:00:23,682 --> 03:00:26,210 a robot with super strength who thinks for himself, 140 03:00:26,234 --> 03:00:28,934 and has emotions, and feels things. 141 03:00:28,958 --> 03:00:30,727 What could go wrong with that kind of strength? 142 03:00:30,751 --> 03:00:32,648 Well, turns out everything. 143 03:00:33,613 --> 03:00:35,210 I'm side eyeing this robot here, 144 03:00:35,234 --> 03:00:36,900 because that robot's a killer 145 03:00:36,924 --> 03:00:39,613 just waiting for an excuse to kill. 146 03:00:40,855 --> 03:00:43,176 Sam was played by Kristy Swanson, 147 03:00:43,200 --> 03:00:45,441 who we love her as the original Buffy. 148 03:00:47,027 --> 03:00:48,624 Dad just will beat her, 149 03:00:48,648 --> 03:00:50,475 which is terrible. 150 03:00:52,027 --> 03:00:54,176 He yells at her, and then throws her down the stairs. 151 03:00:54,200 --> 03:00:55,900 You whiny little bitch! 152 03:00:55,924 --> 03:00:56,924 Ow! 153 03:00:59,820 --> 03:01:01,003 She dies. 154 03:01:01,027 --> 03:01:03,210 Paul's like, I think I can save her. 155 03:01:03,234 --> 03:01:05,486 You're giving her a robot brain? 156 03:01:05,510 --> 03:01:06,751 Giving her a computer. 157 03:01:07,924 --> 03:01:09,417 It's a battery powered self-contained computer. 158 03:01:09,441 --> 03:01:12,244 So now he has a robot's brain 159 03:01:12,268 --> 03:01:15,210 in a human girl's body, but she's dead, 160 03:01:15,234 --> 03:01:16,900 so he has to hide her, or else she's walking around, 161 03:01:16,924 --> 03:01:18,417 she's a zombie, right? 162 03:01:18,441 --> 03:01:19,934 And then it all goes badly, and I'm glad it goes badly, 163 03:01:19,958 --> 03:01:21,589 because it would be weird if it didn't go badly. 164 03:01:21,613 --> 03:01:25,176 She sort of becomes this very interesting 165 03:01:25,200 --> 03:01:27,141 kind of totem, in a way. 166 03:01:27,165 --> 03:01:29,555 How she's able to right the wrongs 167 03:01:29,579 --> 03:01:30,831 of the way that she's been treated, 168 03:01:30,855 --> 03:01:32,786 the way other people have been treated. 169 03:01:37,372 --> 03:01:38,969 Elvira, played by Ann Ramsey. 170 03:01:38,993 --> 03:01:42,417 She's that gun-toting get off my lawn 171 03:01:42,441 --> 03:01:45,451 times 40 Karen that you could meet, right? 172 03:01:45,475 --> 03:01:46,831 Who's out there? 173 03:01:46,855 --> 03:01:47,763 What are you doing? 174 03:01:47,787 --> 03:01:49,934 It's just me, Ms. Parker! 175 03:01:49,958 --> 03:01:51,210 What is that? 176 03:01:51,234 --> 03:01:52,073 BB! 177 03:01:52,097 --> 03:01:53,555 But we love her. 178 03:01:53,579 --> 03:01:55,176 We love Ann Ramsey from "Throw Mama From the Train", 179 03:01:55,200 --> 03:01:56,486 and from "Goonies". 180 03:01:56,510 --> 03:02:01,038 We love her in that mean scary woman character. 181 03:02:01,062 --> 03:02:02,786 Damn kids. 182 03:02:03,682 --> 03:02:04,659 BB picks up the ball, 183 03:02:04,683 --> 03:02:06,520 and throws it at Elvira's head, 184 03:02:06,544 --> 03:02:08,648 and her whole head explodes. 185 03:02:12,200 --> 03:02:15,865 The whole head goes 186 03:02:15,889 --> 03:02:18,475 That's my favorite kill of the movie. 187 03:02:20,855 --> 03:02:22,072 When they had the movie together, 188 03:02:22,096 --> 03:02:24,210 a studio watched it, and they said, no. 189 03:02:24,234 --> 03:02:27,072 This needs more violence. 190 03:02:27,096 --> 03:02:28,658 It needs to be gory. 191 03:02:28,682 --> 03:02:31,038 Because they're under contract with the studio, 192 03:02:31,062 --> 03:02:33,520 they went back and shot gore scenes. 193 03:02:33,544 --> 03:02:35,658 Then they were told it was too much. 194 03:02:35,682 --> 03:02:37,244 They needed to be trimmed. 195 03:02:37,268 --> 03:02:41,969 So the creativeness is pulled back from Wes Craven. 196 03:02:41,993 --> 03:02:44,176 Another movie where everybody had fun. 197 03:02:44,200 --> 03:02:45,820 But I don't think Wes Craven did. 198 03:03:01,579 --> 03:03:03,348 ♪ Rock and roll 199 03:03:03,372 --> 03:03:04,762 "Trick or Treat". 200 03:03:04,786 --> 03:03:08,131 The ultimate rock and roll horror movie. 201 03:03:12,648 --> 03:03:16,003 The perfect mixture of the mythos 202 03:03:16,027 --> 03:03:19,279 behind the heavy metal culture in the 80s. 203 03:03:19,303 --> 03:03:23,486 Just a great misfit in high school story, 204 03:03:23,510 --> 03:03:25,900 which I totally related to. 205 03:03:25,924 --> 03:03:27,038 All right, so "Trick or Treat". 206 03:03:27,062 --> 03:03:29,658 You had Ozzy Osborne, Gene Simmons, 207 03:03:29,682 --> 03:03:31,486 and Skippy from Family Ties. 208 03:03:31,510 --> 03:03:34,003 One of these things is not like the other. 209 03:03:34,027 --> 03:03:35,934 Rockstar Sammi Curr, 210 03:03:35,958 --> 03:03:37,544 victim of a hotel fire. 211 03:03:38,717 --> 03:03:40,727 Dead at age 38. 212 03:03:40,751 --> 03:03:43,762 A rockstar dies, and then this evil something or other 213 03:03:43,786 --> 03:03:45,520 comes back as a rockstar. 214 03:03:45,544 --> 03:03:48,038 I knew that "Trick or Treat" was just candy. 215 03:03:48,062 --> 03:03:50,762 It tastes sweet and then it goes away. 216 03:03:50,786 --> 03:03:53,176 It's a story of Ragman. 217 03:03:53,200 --> 03:03:54,796 He is picked on, he's bullied 218 03:03:54,820 --> 03:03:56,865 by pretty much everybody. 219 03:03:56,889 --> 03:03:59,107 I wanna nail every one of those bastards! 220 03:03:59,131 --> 03:04:01,520 I don't know how, I don't know when, 221 03:04:01,544 --> 03:04:03,176 but I'm gonna nail them. 222 03:04:03,200 --> 03:04:04,831 His hero is Sammi Curr, 223 03:04:04,855 --> 03:04:08,900 who is demonic, dark, in your face. 224 03:04:08,924 --> 03:04:10,900 He ends up killing himself in a ritual, 225 03:04:10,924 --> 03:04:12,313 setting himself on fire. 226 03:04:12,337 --> 03:04:17,176 His soul gets trapped in the acetate demo 227 03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:19,589 that Gene Simmons has. 228 03:04:19,613 --> 03:04:20,900 This is very cool. 229 03:04:20,924 --> 03:04:23,003 And then when you play it backwards, 230 03:04:23,027 --> 03:04:25,003 he comes back from the dead. 231 03:04:25,027 --> 03:04:26,027 You. 232 03:04:27,958 --> 03:04:30,486 Great cameos by Gene, 233 03:04:30,510 --> 03:04:34,658 and then Ozzy as the Bible thumping PMRC minister. 234 03:04:34,682 --> 03:04:37,682 These evil people have just got to be stopped. 235 03:04:40,406 --> 03:04:43,234 And it's just so off the hook. 236 03:04:45,544 --> 03:04:47,279 They were looking at a lot of different rock stars 237 03:04:47,303 --> 03:04:48,900 to play Sammi Curr. 238 03:04:48,924 --> 03:04:50,062 Eddie. 239 03:04:51,820 --> 03:04:53,072 We had a deal. 240 03:04:53,196 --> 03:04:55,310 I didn't wanna be this guy with leather studs. 241 03:04:55,334 --> 03:04:57,965 I was much more interested in the DJ. 242 03:04:57,989 --> 03:05:00,758 It's party time, yeah! 243 03:05:00,782 --> 03:05:02,034 This is the old Nooser coming at ya 244 03:05:02,058 --> 03:05:05,310 right here on this fine, fine Rocktober morning. 245 03:05:05,434 --> 03:05:06,996 It's the sweeping sensation, 246 03:05:07,220 --> 03:05:09,920 like patterned after Wolfman Jack, 247 03:05:10,144 --> 03:05:11,776 who was a DJ at the time. 248 03:05:11,800 --> 03:05:13,982 I just had two or three weeks off between a tour, 249 03:05:14,006 --> 03:05:15,879 and wound up doing it. 250 03:05:15,903 --> 03:05:17,293 Eh, Ragman! 251 03:05:17,317 --> 03:05:19,776 I remember I was so excited to meet him. 252 03:05:19,800 --> 03:05:22,396 I said to him, hey Gene Simmons, 253 03:05:22,420 --> 03:05:23,810 can you do the thing with the tongue? 254 03:05:23,834 --> 03:05:26,776 And he said no, I only do that for girls. 255 03:05:26,800 --> 03:05:28,327 Tony Fields was genuinely scary 256 03:05:28,351 --> 03:05:29,386 playing Sammi Curr. 257 03:05:31,213 --> 03:05:32,431 Hiya, bud. 258 03:05:32,455 --> 03:05:33,844 Boy, he got that rockstar stuff down. 259 03:05:33,868 --> 03:05:36,776 He could dance and sing and move with the guitar 260 03:05:36,800 --> 03:05:38,017 and jump off the stage, 261 03:05:38,041 --> 03:05:39,948 and capable of so much, 262 03:05:39,972 --> 03:05:42,006 and we lost him way too young. 263 03:05:44,937 --> 03:05:48,017 The film script was funnier and darker. 264 03:05:48,041 --> 03:05:52,155 I think what we ended up with was something in the middle. 265 03:05:52,179 --> 03:05:54,293 Charlie Martin Smith was directing for the first time, 266 03:05:54,317 --> 03:05:56,120 "Trick or Treat", that was his first time. 267 03:05:56,144 --> 03:05:58,465 We had a kinship, a nerd-like kinship, 268 03:05:58,489 --> 03:06:01,155 that other directors might not have picked me. 269 03:06:01,179 --> 03:06:02,258 I have to be honest with you. 270 03:06:02,282 --> 03:06:03,903 Keanu Reeves was up for it. 271 03:06:08,455 --> 03:06:09,672 The gore is great, the kills are great. 272 03:06:09,696 --> 03:06:12,258 When he yanks the old lady through the TV, 273 03:06:12,282 --> 03:06:14,776 and she just immediately turns to dust. 274 03:06:14,800 --> 03:06:17,017 Uh, what the shit just happened, dude? 275 03:06:17,041 --> 03:06:18,800 This is insane. 276 03:06:20,903 --> 03:06:22,569 We were blessed to get Kevin Yagher 277 03:06:22,593 --> 03:06:25,213 to do the special effects and the makeup in the film. 278 03:06:26,868 --> 03:06:28,741 It was the first time that I had acted in a movie 279 03:06:28,765 --> 03:06:31,731 with an imaginary monster, and things happening, and stuff. 280 03:06:33,524 --> 03:06:34,741 Oh. 281 03:06:34,765 --> 03:06:39,351 Of course, the amazing soundtrack by Fastway. 282 03:06:40,110 --> 03:06:41,431 ♪ Rock and roll 283 03:06:41,455 --> 03:06:43,362 ♪ Rockin' on a midnight 284 03:06:43,386 --> 03:06:46,741 ♪ Steal your soul 285 03:06:46,765 --> 03:06:49,672 Just such a killer collection of great tunes 286 03:06:49,696 --> 03:06:51,603 that I still listen to to this day. 287 03:06:51,627 --> 03:06:52,501 ♪ On a midnight 288 03:06:52,525 --> 03:06:53,948 ♪ Steal your soul 289 03:06:53,972 --> 03:06:55,396 We were giddy, it was so good. 290 03:06:55,420 --> 03:06:57,327 We were like, this is good. 291 03:06:57,351 --> 03:06:59,086 If the film was successful when it came out, 292 03:06:59,110 --> 03:07:01,293 it wasn't successful enough for them to do the sequel, 293 03:07:01,317 --> 03:07:04,396 and I'm not still living off of it. 294 03:07:04,420 --> 03:07:07,120 If you think about all the movies that are out there, 295 03:07:07,144 --> 03:07:10,041 it's unimaginable that people still care about this movie. 296 03:07:12,765 --> 03:07:13,776 Un-fucking real. 297 03:07:13,800 --> 03:07:17,144 Heavy metal fans stayed true. 298 03:07:27,489 --> 03:07:29,776 Marty Rantzen is still a dork, 299 03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:31,603 but tonight he's getting even. 300 03:07:31,627 --> 03:07:34,558 Vestron Pictures presents "Slaughter High". 301 03:07:36,420 --> 03:07:38,051 April fool's! 302 03:07:38,075 --> 03:07:41,672 "Slaughter High" is about a kid 303 03:07:41,696 --> 03:07:44,362 that gets bullied, and years later at a reunion, 304 03:07:44,386 --> 03:07:45,327 he comes back. 305 03:07:45,351 --> 03:07:46,351 Starts killing. 306 03:07:52,834 --> 03:07:54,534 It's a revenge film. 307 03:07:54,558 --> 03:07:56,810 It's a horrible prank, and a prank that went 308 03:07:56,834 --> 03:07:58,810 horribly wrong for everybody else. 309 03:07:58,834 --> 03:08:00,017 I'm sorry, Marty. 310 03:08:00,041 --> 03:08:01,524 We didn't mean to! 311 03:08:03,144 --> 03:08:05,465 First of all, it was called "April Fool's Day", 312 03:08:05,489 --> 03:08:07,844 and of course, that's like the American "April Fool's Day", 313 03:08:07,868 --> 03:08:10,317 so we had to change the title. 314 03:08:11,489 --> 03:08:13,051 It was meant to be shot in the States, 315 03:08:13,075 --> 03:08:16,327 and there was no budget, so it was all shot in England. 316 03:08:16,351 --> 03:08:17,741 Three directors. 317 03:08:17,765 --> 03:08:19,431 George Dugdale, my husband. 318 03:08:19,455 --> 03:08:22,500 Peter Mackenzie Litten, and Mark Ezra. 319 03:08:22,524 --> 03:08:24,707 They all took different roles. 320 03:08:24,731 --> 03:08:26,707 Peter Litten did the special effects, 321 03:08:26,731 --> 03:08:29,489 so he'd step in and do those scenes. 322 03:08:31,800 --> 03:08:34,017 Mark was more the writer, and George would be 323 03:08:34,041 --> 03:08:36,396 very hands-on as the physical director, 324 03:08:36,420 --> 03:08:37,465 which worked really well. 325 03:08:37,489 --> 03:08:38,913 Good friends. 326 03:08:38,937 --> 03:08:40,937 I've never had that before, but it was interesting. 327 03:08:42,041 --> 03:08:43,569 Carol, my character. 328 03:08:43,593 --> 03:08:44,696 Come on. 329 03:08:45,937 --> 03:08:47,396 She wasn't a very nice person at all. 330 03:08:47,420 --> 03:08:48,672 She was a bit of a tease, 331 03:08:48,696 --> 03:08:51,120 and she thought she was the bees knees. 332 03:08:51,144 --> 03:08:52,741 And she was meant to be an 18-year-old. 333 03:08:52,765 --> 03:08:53,673 I'm sorry. 334 03:08:53,697 --> 03:08:56,465 I was in my 30s at that point. 335 03:08:56,489 --> 03:08:57,982 They were clever in the casting, 336 03:08:58,006 --> 03:09:00,741 because they got people in their late 20s and stuff, 337 03:09:00,765 --> 03:09:02,327 so it didn't look too out of place. 338 03:09:02,351 --> 03:09:05,258 You filthy stinking bastard, Marty! 339 03:09:05,282 --> 03:09:07,189 What do you want from us? 340 03:09:07,213 --> 03:09:09,086 There was a mix of Brit actors, 341 03:09:09,110 --> 03:09:11,224 and then we had about four, five Americans, 342 03:09:11,248 --> 03:09:12,868 so that made it credible. 343 03:09:14,593 --> 03:09:15,879 Simon Scuddamore. 344 03:09:15,903 --> 03:09:18,086 Very intense, and he did a brilliant job. 345 03:09:18,110 --> 03:09:20,258 He made Marty totally come to life. 346 03:09:20,282 --> 03:09:21,800 It was wonderful. 347 03:09:24,317 --> 03:09:25,569 How do you want it? 348 03:09:25,593 --> 03:09:26,466 Please, stop! 349 03:09:26,490 --> 03:09:27,879 No! 350 03:09:27,903 --> 03:09:29,258 And what they did, I don't know why they did it, 351 03:09:29,282 --> 03:09:32,327 it was just like a pack of hyenas, really. 352 03:09:32,351 --> 03:09:34,258 The scene with the Bunsen burner. 353 03:09:34,282 --> 03:09:36,420 They did such a good job with that. 354 03:09:39,903 --> 03:09:41,120 No CGI. 355 03:09:41,144 --> 03:09:43,420 All practically done in front of your eyes. 356 03:09:45,972 --> 03:09:47,500 It all sets on fire. 357 03:09:47,524 --> 03:09:48,913 I think it's a fabulous sequence. 358 03:09:48,937 --> 03:09:50,569 It's a kind of tongue-in-cheek play 359 03:09:50,593 --> 03:09:53,937 upon other films that were maybe more serious. 360 03:09:55,696 --> 03:09:58,662 Given the budget, I think it stands up quite well. 361 03:10:01,489 --> 03:10:03,776 People seem to like it, especially in the States 362 03:10:03,800 --> 03:10:04,604 when I go there. 363 03:10:04,628 --> 03:10:05,982 They say, we love it. 364 03:10:06,006 --> 03:10:07,879 I say, what do you like about it? 365 03:10:07,903 --> 03:10:11,731 They say it's so cheesy, we just love it. 366 03:10:15,800 --> 03:10:16,982 Maybe it is a bit cheesy, 367 03:10:17,006 --> 03:10:18,879 but it's cheesy and fun, 368 03:10:18,903 --> 03:10:21,017 and the effects were really well done, 369 03:10:21,041 --> 03:10:23,741 and hopefully the acting's okay. 370 03:10:23,765 --> 03:10:24,972 Look, Manny. 371 03:10:26,179 --> 03:10:29,603 The guy's weird, the story's weird, and- 372 03:10:29,627 --> 03:10:30,432 And what? 373 03:10:30,456 --> 03:10:31,800 And you're weird. 374 03:10:40,593 --> 03:10:43,431 "Class of Nuke 'Em High", like all Troma movies, 375 03:10:43,455 --> 03:10:47,258 was a movie ripped from today's headlines. 376 03:10:47,282 --> 03:10:50,293 There was a nuclear power plant being built 377 03:10:50,317 --> 03:10:53,189 about a quarter of a mile away from the United States' 378 03:10:53,213 --> 03:10:56,327 most populous city, namely New York City. 379 03:10:56,351 --> 03:10:57,844 And right next to where I lived, 380 03:10:57,868 --> 03:11:01,017 so that gave me the idea of let's talk about that. 381 03:11:01,041 --> 03:11:03,258 But sir, if we could just shut down for 48 hours- 382 03:11:03,282 --> 03:11:04,569 Shut down? 383 03:11:04,593 --> 03:11:05,810 They'll investigate us. 384 03:11:05,834 --> 03:11:07,327 The EPA, the NRC. 385 03:11:07,551 --> 03:11:10,838 "Class of Nuke 'Em High" is like a Cuisinart of genres. 386 03:11:10,862 --> 03:11:14,010 People really enjoyed the mixture of humor and horror, 387 03:11:14,034 --> 03:11:18,068 and social satire, and politics, and violence. 388 03:11:21,620 --> 03:11:22,734 It's an excellent film. 389 03:11:22,758 --> 03:11:24,182 It's very entertaining. 390 03:11:24,206 --> 03:11:27,631 It's got something to say about pollution and radiation. 391 03:11:27,655 --> 03:11:28,941 We have found no connection 392 03:11:28,965 --> 03:11:30,976 between that unfortunate student 393 03:11:31,000 --> 03:11:32,182 and this facility. 394 03:11:32,206 --> 03:11:33,493 I almost killed one of my kids in it. 395 03:11:33,517 --> 03:11:34,907 That was kinda fun. 396 03:11:34,931 --> 03:11:37,665 We had to have a motorcycle run into a bake sale 397 03:11:37,689 --> 03:11:39,976 with a lot of women with cakes, 398 03:11:40,000 --> 03:11:42,286 and I put my wife and kid right in the center of it, 399 03:11:42,310 --> 03:11:44,931 so that if anybody got hurt, you know, my fault. 400 03:11:46,896 --> 03:11:49,562 Nothing happened, but they came pretty close. 401 03:11:49,586 --> 03:11:51,527 Well, the whole idea of blowing up your school, 402 03:11:51,551 --> 03:11:52,803 I always loved that. 403 03:11:52,827 --> 03:11:54,251 And I think that was one of the reasons 404 03:11:54,275 --> 03:11:55,355 it was successful. 405 03:11:55,379 --> 03:11:57,310 We literally destroyed a school. 406 03:12:01,034 --> 03:12:02,700 Once it got into theaters, 407 03:12:02,724 --> 03:12:04,562 we made over 100 prints. 408 03:12:04,586 --> 03:12:07,458 A video cassette company called Media Home Entertainment, 409 03:12:07,482 --> 03:12:10,976 they sold over 500,000 video cassettes 410 03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:13,724 around 200 bucks for a video cassette. 411 03:12:15,344 --> 03:12:16,596 You know, "Class of Nuke 'Em High" 412 03:12:16,620 --> 03:12:19,286 is still very popular with fans. 413 03:12:19,310 --> 03:12:20,493 Nostalgic, too. 414 03:12:20,517 --> 03:12:21,941 We've got all these young people 415 03:12:21,965 --> 03:12:23,424 who are now in their 50s 416 03:12:23,448 --> 03:12:25,493 who still like "Class of Nuke 'Em High". 417 03:12:25,517 --> 03:12:28,172 They want to see the future, but now. 418 03:12:30,241 --> 03:12:31,700 It's a good movie. 419 03:12:31,724 --> 03:12:33,665 It's so good that there's "Subhumanoid Meltdown: 420 03:12:33,689 --> 03:12:35,113 "Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 2", 421 03:12:35,137 --> 03:12:36,734 "The Good the Bad and the Subhumanoid: 422 03:12:36,758 --> 03:12:38,424 "Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 3". 423 03:12:38,448 --> 03:12:39,941 There are five of them. 424 03:12:39,965 --> 03:12:41,148 Tromaville High School will be 425 03:12:41,172 --> 03:12:43,103 temporarily closed for remodeling. 426 03:12:44,068 --> 03:12:45,620 All right! 427 03:12:52,862 --> 03:12:55,241 This is actually based on a true story. 428 03:12:56,241 --> 03:12:57,493 "The Zero Boys". 429 03:12:57,517 --> 03:13:00,976 Dawn of a new breed of heroes. 430 03:13:01,000 --> 03:13:03,320 This really did happen upstate California. 431 03:13:03,344 --> 03:13:05,976 There was a group of people that would go paintballing, 432 03:13:06,000 --> 03:13:08,379 and there was a maniac that would kill them. 433 03:13:11,793 --> 03:13:15,079 Somebody said I'm gonna write a movie about this, and did. 434 03:13:15,103 --> 03:13:16,838 In the movie, there's a group, and they're called 435 03:13:16,862 --> 03:13:20,010 the Zero Boys, because they never, ever, ever, ever win. 436 03:13:20,034 --> 03:13:21,872 But this one time, they won. 437 03:13:21,896 --> 03:13:22,896 Do it. 438 03:13:23,620 --> 03:13:25,769 The Zero Boys are the best! 439 03:13:25,793 --> 03:13:27,286 Fucking assholes. 440 03:13:27,310 --> 03:13:29,872 And they won my character. 441 03:13:29,896 --> 03:13:32,596 And so she's very unhappy about that. 442 03:13:32,620 --> 03:13:35,838 I am so thrilled to be with the champions. 443 03:13:35,862 --> 03:13:37,044 Go on. 444 03:13:37,068 --> 03:13:38,458 Show me what makes the Zero Boys tick. 445 03:13:38,482 --> 03:13:40,389 So they get up there, and all of a sudden 446 03:13:40,413 --> 03:13:41,390 something is wrong. 447 03:13:41,414 --> 03:13:43,068 Jamie. 448 03:13:48,103 --> 03:13:51,079 It was kind of more getting into the torture thing, 449 03:13:51,103 --> 03:13:53,103 like really kind of sick and weird. 450 03:13:55,655 --> 03:13:57,424 Directed by Nico Mastorakis, 451 03:13:57,448 --> 03:14:02,010 who was this Greek guy who loved action exploitation horror. 452 03:14:02,034 --> 03:14:05,320 And Nico just delivers this powerhouse of action movie 453 03:14:05,344 --> 03:14:07,113 mixed with horror. 454 03:14:07,137 --> 03:14:09,113 The running and the hanging by our feet 455 03:14:09,137 --> 03:14:10,665 and all that other kind of stuff, 456 03:14:10,689 --> 03:14:14,113 a lot of inventiveness with weapons, and crossbows, 457 03:14:14,137 --> 03:14:15,689 and things like that. 458 03:14:17,206 --> 03:14:19,251 And this movie is brilliantly photographed 459 03:14:19,275 --> 03:14:20,769 by Steve Shaw. 460 03:14:20,793 --> 03:14:22,734 Every shot of that movie is almost like a painting, 461 03:14:22,758 --> 03:14:25,700 especially when they're out in the wilderness. 462 03:14:25,724 --> 03:14:27,217 It was a lot of running around in the woods, 463 03:14:27,241 --> 03:14:28,458 that's for sure. 464 03:14:28,482 --> 03:14:29,838 Everybody camped together and went 465 03:14:29,862 --> 03:14:31,700 we have a serious problem here. 466 03:14:31,724 --> 03:14:32,872 What are we going to do? 467 03:14:32,896 --> 03:14:34,976 And did it as a group. 468 03:14:35,000 --> 03:14:37,182 You have to get engaged with the characters, 469 03:14:37,206 --> 03:14:39,527 and care about them, or relate to them, 470 03:14:39,551 --> 03:14:42,148 or have an opinion about them. 471 03:14:42,172 --> 03:14:43,941 If you don't know who these people are 472 03:14:44,065 --> 03:14:46,420 on an intimate level, then you don't care. 473 03:14:46,444 --> 03:14:48,306 We wanna care. 474 03:14:50,617 --> 03:14:52,213 My favorite kill in "The Zero Boys", 475 03:14:52,237 --> 03:14:54,351 he falls into this pit of spikes, 476 03:14:54,375 --> 03:14:55,962 and then you can't get out. 477 03:14:59,720 --> 03:15:02,168 But it was a good kill. 478 03:15:04,962 --> 03:15:06,903 Joe Estevez played the killer, 479 03:15:06,927 --> 03:15:09,110 and he looks exactly like Martin Sheen. 480 03:15:09,134 --> 03:15:11,282 Probably scarier, because he has more experience 481 03:15:11,306 --> 03:15:13,341 doing these kinds of things. 482 03:15:17,444 --> 03:15:19,800 It was Hans Zimmer's first American score. 483 03:15:19,824 --> 03:15:21,582 Frank Darabont was on the crew. 484 03:15:23,306 --> 03:15:25,351 I remember he was telling us all about 485 03:15:25,375 --> 03:15:27,386 how he had a story that he bought 486 03:15:27,410 --> 03:15:29,179 from Stephen King for a dollar, 487 03:15:29,203 --> 03:15:31,927 and it was "Shawshank Redemption". 488 03:15:34,203 --> 03:15:37,007 "The Zero Boys" is under the radar because it always was. 489 03:15:37,031 --> 03:15:38,972 It was always an underground thing. 490 03:15:38,996 --> 03:15:40,351 What's scary about "The Zero Boys" 491 03:15:40,375 --> 03:15:42,455 is you could be doing something that you love to do, 492 03:15:42,479 --> 03:15:43,824 and be in mortal danger. 493 03:15:45,962 --> 03:15:47,962 There's no place safe. 494 03:15:58,410 --> 03:16:01,972 My real name is George Tani. 495 03:16:01,996 --> 03:16:04,110 Growing up, I was very impressed 496 03:16:04,134 --> 03:16:06,213 with Ray Harry Haroldon movies. 497 03:16:06,237 --> 03:16:08,489 "Jason and the Argonauts". 498 03:16:08,513 --> 03:16:10,869 My dad took me to the theater. 499 03:16:10,893 --> 03:16:13,834 He said it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be a fighting movie. 500 03:16:13,858 --> 03:16:15,144 It's like a skeleton, you know, you're gonna like it. 501 03:16:15,168 --> 03:16:17,386 And I said oh, that's great. 502 03:16:17,410 --> 03:16:20,248 I have been watching "Godzilla", and all those, 503 03:16:20,272 --> 03:16:22,110 Tojo and kaiju films. 504 03:16:22,134 --> 03:16:24,617 When I saw "Howling". 505 03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:33,765 The first time I saw the man turned into the werewolf, 506 03:16:33,789 --> 03:16:36,179 changing right in front of my eye, 507 03:16:36,203 --> 03:16:39,168 I was like, this is it. 508 03:16:44,651 --> 03:16:47,627 And then you see more coming up 509 03:16:47,651 --> 03:16:50,420 from Rick Baker, and Rob Bottin. 510 03:16:50,444 --> 03:16:54,306 And then Dick Smith's "Altered States". 511 03:16:57,582 --> 03:17:01,972 The images of that really made me decide 512 03:17:01,996 --> 03:17:04,031 this is the way to go. 513 03:17:09,100 --> 03:17:12,420 When I went to New York studying in school 514 03:17:12,444 --> 03:17:16,582 of visual arts, right in the beginning of punk movement. 515 03:17:17,513 --> 03:17:19,076 ♪ God save the queen 516 03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:21,110 I saw the art side of it. 517 03:17:21,134 --> 03:17:24,351 Punk music really gave me the art, 518 03:17:24,375 --> 03:17:27,110 okay, we can do a lot more on edge. 519 03:17:27,134 --> 03:17:31,100 I can perform something shocking to the people. 520 03:17:32,927 --> 03:17:36,524 "Nightmare 4", my effect was Debbie's roach, 521 03:17:36,548 --> 03:17:38,041 the girl that hates the cockroach, 522 03:17:38,065 --> 03:17:39,524 and then she becomes a cockroach, 523 03:17:39,548 --> 03:17:43,317 and then crushed by Freddie. 524 03:17:43,341 --> 03:17:47,731 That's like Kafka, you know? 525 03:17:47,755 --> 03:17:50,420 And this is a surreal sequence. 526 03:17:50,444 --> 03:17:52,282 The fake body, we take it off 527 03:17:52,306 --> 03:17:54,213 so she can put her head out, 528 03:17:54,237 --> 03:17:56,834 and fake arm, it breaks. 529 03:17:56,858 --> 03:17:59,834 It's old trick, but the images, 530 03:17:59,858 --> 03:18:02,996 and what happening, really creep them out. 531 03:18:03,893 --> 03:18:05,720 Everybody is like really, ugh! 532 03:18:07,617 --> 03:18:09,076 That's gross! 533 03:18:09,100 --> 03:18:11,720 I succeeded the illusion. 534 03:18:12,720 --> 03:18:15,444 I'm very proud of that show. 535 03:18:21,168 --> 03:18:22,351 It was Brian Yuzna. 536 03:18:22,375 --> 03:18:25,076 We were really creating the scene together. 537 03:18:25,100 --> 03:18:27,317 Especially the chanting sequence. 538 03:18:27,341 --> 03:18:32,100 It's a real grotesque orgy. 539 03:18:37,100 --> 03:18:38,593 I love Dali. 540 03:18:38,617 --> 03:18:42,869 Dali is the one that made me really into art. 541 03:18:42,893 --> 03:18:45,834 My crew was all inside, you know? 542 03:18:45,858 --> 03:18:48,076 Inside of that creature. 543 03:18:48,100 --> 03:18:49,282 They can move. 544 03:18:49,306 --> 03:18:52,696 That's why you don't have to have expensive 545 03:18:52,720 --> 03:18:54,582 mechanical movement, you know? 546 03:18:55,789 --> 03:18:58,203 And the people can move organically. 547 03:19:02,203 --> 03:19:05,662 I put in my 200, 300% on it. 548 03:19:05,686 --> 03:19:09,317 So my sleeping time is really maybe average 549 03:19:09,341 --> 03:19:11,558 of two hours a day, or something, 550 03:19:11,582 --> 03:19:13,375 during the show. 551 03:19:14,720 --> 03:19:16,800 There was not much budget, so I just have to 552 03:19:16,824 --> 03:19:19,593 sculpt everything myself, pretty much. 553 03:19:19,617 --> 03:19:21,203 And fast. 554 03:19:25,479 --> 03:19:27,800 Making things for "Bride of Re-Animator", 555 03:19:27,824 --> 03:19:31,076 we didn't have enough time to shoot everything 556 03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:32,248 that we wanted to do. 557 03:19:32,272 --> 03:19:34,455 It was very rushed. 558 03:19:34,479 --> 03:19:37,351 Herbert West, he does a bunch of experiments, 559 03:19:37,375 --> 03:19:41,100 so I can do so many different idea. 560 03:19:45,927 --> 03:19:49,662 The design comes in as outrageous as possible. 561 03:19:49,686 --> 03:19:53,962 You stupid biped! 562 03:19:55,237 --> 03:20:00,213 Vietnam veteran, Noble Craig, is an actor 563 03:20:00,237 --> 03:20:02,248 who is amputee. 564 03:20:02,272 --> 03:20:05,696 I've been working with him since "Poltergeist II". 565 03:20:05,720 --> 03:20:09,248 The vomit creature, crawl across the room, 566 03:20:09,272 --> 03:20:11,617 that is Craig. 567 03:20:16,444 --> 03:20:18,593 And then "Big Trouble in Little China", 568 03:20:18,617 --> 03:20:22,248 sewer creature, the creature comes out from a tunnel, 569 03:20:22,272 --> 03:20:24,696 eats the guy, and then comes back, right? 570 03:20:24,720 --> 03:20:26,282 That's it. 571 03:20:26,306 --> 03:20:28,869 It took three months to make it. 572 03:20:28,893 --> 03:20:32,007 That too, Noble Craig is inside there 573 03:20:32,031 --> 03:20:33,593 in special makeup effects. 574 03:20:33,617 --> 03:20:37,627 I think that is one of the evolutional happenings 575 03:20:37,651 --> 03:20:40,696 happened in film industry. 576 03:20:40,720 --> 03:20:45,720 When I was in Japan, first I call myself Toshusi Mad, 577 03:20:46,962 --> 03:20:48,696 and then I wanted to have something 578 03:20:48,720 --> 03:20:50,524 that is really crazy. 579 03:20:50,548 --> 03:20:55,007 Mad is something that is much more crazier than crazy, 580 03:20:55,031 --> 03:20:56,696 I think, you know what I mean? 581 03:20:56,720 --> 03:20:57,755 More power with it. 582 03:20:58,962 --> 03:21:02,041 And then I remember the blues singer 583 03:21:02,065 --> 03:21:04,927 named Screaming Jay Hawkins. 584 03:21:05,858 --> 03:21:10,213 If I use Screaming Mad George. 585 03:21:10,237 --> 03:21:11,938 That sounds good. 586 03:21:11,962 --> 03:21:15,168 Screaming Mad George is my artist name. 587 03:21:34,548 --> 03:21:37,179 "Witchboard". 588 03:21:37,203 --> 03:21:39,351 "Witchboard" is the reason I will not allow 589 03:21:39,375 --> 03:21:41,765 a Ouija board in my house to this day. 590 03:21:41,789 --> 03:21:43,651 Don't come into my house with a Ouija board. 591 03:21:47,203 --> 03:21:48,834 All I ever wanted to do was figure out 592 03:21:48,858 --> 03:21:49,938 where I could get a Ouija board. 593 03:21:49,962 --> 03:21:51,696 I wanna try this thing out. 594 03:21:51,720 --> 03:21:52,720 Can you hear me? 595 03:21:55,927 --> 03:21:59,593 That movie came out right at the right time 596 03:21:59,617 --> 03:22:00,789 for my puberty. 597 03:22:01,962 --> 03:22:06,617 Tawny Kitaen, the quintessential wow. 598 03:22:07,789 --> 03:22:10,593 I had already seen her in "Bachelor Party". 599 03:22:10,617 --> 03:22:12,938 I'd seen her in all the fucking Whitesnake videos 600 03:22:12,962 --> 03:22:13,962 at that point. 601 03:22:14,996 --> 03:22:17,455 ♪ Well here I go again on my own ♪ 602 03:22:17,479 --> 03:22:20,041 Doing flips on the cars, and splits and things. 603 03:22:20,065 --> 03:22:22,179 It was very impressive. 604 03:22:22,203 --> 03:22:23,720 I'd really like to try this. 605 03:22:27,341 --> 03:22:29,317 "Witchboard" is about somebody 606 03:22:29,341 --> 03:22:32,524 who becomes obsessed with the Ouija board. 607 03:22:32,548 --> 03:22:34,869 David, do you remember me? 608 03:22:34,893 --> 03:22:39,893 A Ouija board that then opens the portal of hell 609 03:22:40,479 --> 03:22:41,558 to a demon. 610 03:22:41,882 --> 03:22:43,468 Ooh, that's a little spooky. 611 03:22:44,365 --> 03:22:45,170 It's a little stupid. 612 03:22:45,194 --> 03:22:46,824 It's a lot stupid. 613 03:22:46,848 --> 03:22:50,272 The visceral horror and gore that starts to happen 614 03:22:50,296 --> 03:22:53,513 once the horror is unleashed in "Witchboard". 615 03:22:53,737 --> 03:22:55,576 It really scared the crap out of me 616 03:22:56,100 --> 03:22:57,248 in a really fun way. 617 03:23:00,406 --> 03:23:01,727 It's the very first film that we got 618 03:23:01,751 --> 03:23:02,969 from Kevin Tenney. 619 03:23:02,993 --> 03:23:05,200 This was a precursor to "Night of the Demons". 620 03:23:05,924 --> 03:23:07,900 He starts to frighten and terrorize her, 621 03:23:07,924 --> 03:23:10,176 gradually breaking down her resistance. 622 03:23:10,200 --> 03:23:12,831 And once that's done, he's able to possess her. 623 03:23:12,855 --> 03:23:15,796 The thing that Kevin Tenney brought to the table 624 03:23:15,820 --> 03:23:18,796 that set him apart from other directors I've worked with 625 03:23:18,820 --> 03:23:22,717 was his sense of humor and his passion for horror. 626 03:23:25,889 --> 03:23:27,520 Ouija board was copyrighted 627 03:23:27,544 --> 03:23:29,693 so that he couldn't call his movie "Ouija Board", 628 03:23:29,717 --> 03:23:31,451 so he changed it to "Witchboard". 629 03:23:31,475 --> 03:23:34,176 It's pronounced Ouija, not Ouij-i. 630 03:23:34,200 --> 03:23:37,176 It comes from the French and German words for yes. 631 03:23:37,200 --> 03:23:38,451 Oui and ja. 632 03:23:38,475 --> 03:23:40,003 Ouija. 633 03:23:40,027 --> 03:23:42,382 It was great working with the late great Tawny Kitaen. 634 03:23:42,406 --> 03:23:44,141 You must be Linda. 635 03:23:44,165 --> 03:23:45,727 She was fun to act with. 636 03:23:45,751 --> 03:23:47,382 She had a little brown dog 637 03:23:47,406 --> 03:23:49,348 that she brought on the set all the time. 638 03:23:49,372 --> 03:23:51,107 Jim, this is Zarabeth. 639 03:23:51,131 --> 03:23:53,268 The best medium in northern California. 640 03:23:54,200 --> 03:23:56,244 When we did that seance scene, 641 03:23:56,268 --> 03:23:57,969 every time they'd say action, 642 03:23:57,993 --> 03:24:00,520 and I'd go like, whoo. 643 03:24:00,544 --> 03:24:02,417 Pretend like the boy was in my body. 644 03:24:02,441 --> 03:24:04,969 I'd look over at her and she'd be like, 645 03:24:04,993 --> 03:24:08,451 she'd start laughing, and then we all start laughing. 646 03:24:08,475 --> 03:24:10,486 And nobody could ever pull it together. 647 03:24:10,510 --> 03:24:12,762 And I was like, I can't do this! 648 03:24:12,786 --> 03:24:14,244 It was so goofy. 649 03:24:14,268 --> 03:24:17,313 But with the scary music, when we finally got a take, 650 03:24:17,337 --> 03:24:19,727 it worked, you know they put a weird effect 651 03:24:19,751 --> 03:24:21,520 on my voice or something like that. 652 03:24:21,544 --> 03:24:23,372 She hurt me. 653 03:24:24,648 --> 03:24:26,624 She won't talk to me anymore. 654 03:24:26,648 --> 03:24:29,993 Zarabeth to me is definitely a highlight of "Witchboard". 655 03:24:31,234 --> 03:24:34,279 Just some more psychic humor. 656 03:24:34,303 --> 03:24:36,107 Come on Brandy, let's hit the musky dusk. 657 03:24:36,131 --> 03:24:38,889 Her death is so gnarly, too. 658 03:24:43,303 --> 03:24:45,589 They'd say action, and then I'd get to 659 03:24:45,613 --> 03:24:48,451 pretend like I land on the sundial, 660 03:24:48,475 --> 03:24:51,589 and I had got one of those blood pills in my mouth, 661 03:24:51,613 --> 03:24:55,544 and I did get to go like, 662 03:24:57,062 --> 03:24:59,796 and like split out blood, 663 03:24:59,820 --> 03:25:01,796 which I adored. 664 03:25:01,820 --> 03:25:06,176 They had taped the top of the sundial to my back 665 03:25:06,200 --> 03:25:10,486 so I ran down the set, 666 03:25:10,510 --> 03:25:13,072 pretending like I was a shark. 667 03:25:13,096 --> 03:25:14,579 I see danger ahead. 668 03:25:16,303 --> 03:25:17,313 For Linda? 669 03:25:17,337 --> 03:25:18,693 For you. 670 03:25:18,717 --> 03:25:19,934 If you miss my house. 671 03:25:19,958 --> 03:25:24,337 On "Witchboard", I had so much fun laughing. 672 03:25:25,820 --> 03:25:29,796 It's coming up on the right! 673 03:25:29,820 --> 03:25:31,176 A little more psychic humor, huh? 674 03:25:31,200 --> 03:25:34,579 With tears and belly laughs everyday. 675 03:25:39,648 --> 03:25:40,658 Tawny Kitaen. 676 03:25:40,682 --> 03:25:43,003 When I saw that she died, 677 03:25:43,027 --> 03:25:45,176 I felt loss, and sadness. 678 03:25:45,200 --> 03:25:48,038 She was a blast, and funny, and smart, 679 03:25:48,062 --> 03:25:51,244 and lovely, and it's weird for me to even think 680 03:25:51,268 --> 03:25:52,520 that she's not around. 681 03:25:52,544 --> 03:25:54,268 It's bizarre to me. 682 03:26:00,096 --> 03:26:03,417 "Blood Rage", also known as "Slasher", 683 03:26:03,441 --> 03:26:06,279 and "Nightmare at Shadow Woods". 684 03:26:06,303 --> 03:26:07,831 I mean it's like, make up your minds, 685 03:26:07,855 --> 03:26:08,855 will you people? 686 03:26:10,303 --> 03:26:13,038 There's so few Thanksgiving horror movies, 687 03:26:13,062 --> 03:26:16,244 that I feel like this has kind of had a resurgence 688 03:26:16,268 --> 03:26:18,969 in recent years, because everybody wants 689 03:26:18,993 --> 03:26:21,613 a horror movie to watch on the holidays. 690 03:26:27,648 --> 03:26:30,717 Twin boys, one crazy, one not. 691 03:26:31,613 --> 03:26:32,658 There's a mix-up. 692 03:26:32,682 --> 03:26:34,417 One gets put in an asylum. 693 03:26:34,441 --> 03:26:35,934 One's out loose. 694 03:26:35,958 --> 03:26:37,038 Nobody in the movie knows. 695 03:26:37,062 --> 03:26:39,244 Everyone in the audience knows. 696 03:26:39,268 --> 03:26:40,451 Here's to the new family. 697 03:26:40,475 --> 03:26:42,348 "Blood Rage" is about a Thanksgiving meal 698 03:26:42,372 --> 03:26:45,624 that just goes completely awash in blood. 699 03:26:45,648 --> 03:26:47,313 I'm not a fan of horror. 700 03:26:47,337 --> 03:26:49,141 When I got "Blood Rage", it was a new 701 03:26:49,165 --> 03:26:51,027 genre for me completely. 702 03:26:52,510 --> 03:26:55,486 I went to the video store, and went to the horror section. 703 03:26:55,510 --> 03:26:58,279 I literally had to go and investigate it. 704 03:26:58,303 --> 03:27:01,210 What, are you gonna try and shoot me again, Todd? 705 03:27:01,234 --> 03:27:03,520 It's twins. 706 03:27:03,544 --> 03:27:04,452 You know? 707 03:27:04,476 --> 03:27:05,934 So I'm going, are they kidding? 708 03:27:05,958 --> 03:27:07,486 Do they know what they're getting involved with? 709 03:27:07,510 --> 03:27:10,003 That's a chore for most people in any film, 710 03:27:10,027 --> 03:27:11,889 let alone on a low budget. 711 03:27:13,268 --> 03:27:16,244 I broke it down, Stanislavski, building a character. 712 03:27:16,268 --> 03:27:18,589 The psychopath, you know? 713 03:27:18,613 --> 03:27:23,107 And then the other guy was closer to what I usually played, 714 03:27:23,131 --> 03:27:25,176 the sort of hate yourself, low esteem, 715 03:27:25,200 --> 03:27:26,658 I'd played a couple of prisoners, 716 03:27:26,682 --> 03:27:29,107 and stuff like that, and mixed up kids. 717 03:27:29,131 --> 03:27:30,131 Very intense. 718 03:27:36,889 --> 03:27:38,176 "Blood Rage" operates in a world 719 03:27:38,200 --> 03:27:42,658 where it's the family Thanksgiving and murder. 720 03:27:42,682 --> 03:27:43,831 Looks like you're gonna get a chance 721 03:27:43,855 --> 03:27:45,624 to meet the rest of the family. 722 03:27:45,648 --> 03:27:47,924 My psychotic brother just escaped. 723 03:27:49,165 --> 03:27:50,727 It's the turkey and killing people. 724 03:27:50,751 --> 03:27:52,210 It's rich. 725 03:27:52,234 --> 03:27:56,900 I'd say that this big bird is ready for carving. 726 03:27:56,924 --> 03:27:59,693 Why does this make me so crazy? 727 03:27:59,717 --> 03:28:01,762 Time to eat, let's all sit down. 728 03:28:01,786 --> 03:28:03,244 It's time for dinner. 729 03:28:03,268 --> 03:28:04,958 Look what the cat brought in! 730 03:28:11,648 --> 03:28:15,451 Louise Lasser gives 110% in that movie. 731 03:28:15,475 --> 03:28:17,176 She's incredible. 732 03:28:17,200 --> 03:28:20,176 She was, god bless her, a force of nature. 733 03:28:20,200 --> 03:28:22,624 Mary Hartman was seminal TV, man. 734 03:28:22,648 --> 03:28:24,313 That was hot stuff. 735 03:28:24,337 --> 03:28:27,141 You know, murder with no reason, or no motive, 736 03:28:27,165 --> 03:28:29,382 I mean really senseless, when you think about it. 737 03:28:29,406 --> 03:28:31,762 Do you think this is too spicy, or not spicy enough? 738 03:28:31,786 --> 03:28:34,038 She set the tone for "Nightmare Mom". 739 03:28:34,062 --> 03:28:36,313 She creates the world for the film 740 03:28:36,337 --> 03:28:37,337 Oh please. 741 03:28:40,027 --> 03:28:42,165 Please don't do this to me. 742 03:28:43,544 --> 03:28:45,417 She had that voice, she would just 743 03:28:45,441 --> 03:28:48,141 get into these states. 744 03:28:48,165 --> 03:28:50,210 She was transformed. 745 03:28:50,234 --> 03:28:52,313 Come give mommy a kiss. 746 03:28:52,337 --> 03:28:54,313 That scene around the refrigerator? 747 03:28:54,337 --> 03:28:55,555 I mean, come on. 748 03:28:55,579 --> 03:28:58,072 This is a woman who's freaking out over food. 749 03:28:58,096 --> 03:29:00,244 And it's so over the top. 750 03:29:00,268 --> 03:29:02,727 I've been calling you and calling you! 751 03:29:02,751 --> 03:29:05,486 Why didn't you answer the phone? 752 03:29:05,510 --> 03:29:06,658 Todd's here! 753 03:29:06,682 --> 03:29:08,279 And he's killing again! 754 03:29:08,303 --> 03:29:09,280 She was bringing it. 755 03:29:09,304 --> 03:29:11,038 She got an applause on the set, 756 03:29:11,062 --> 03:29:13,200 and I've only been around that a few times. 757 03:29:17,200 --> 03:29:18,382 It's bananas. 758 03:29:18,406 --> 03:29:21,072 It's a movie where no one in the movie 759 03:29:21,096 --> 03:29:23,382 is making the same movie as anyone else in the movie. 760 03:29:23,406 --> 03:29:25,658 They're all singing in their own key, 761 03:29:25,682 --> 03:29:27,107 and the movie's all the better for it. 762 03:29:27,131 --> 03:29:28,820 It's unhinged, it's delightful. 763 03:29:34,855 --> 03:29:36,969 Shooting a melodrama like "Blood Rage" 764 03:29:36,993 --> 03:29:38,520 is a whole different thing. 765 03:29:38,544 --> 03:29:40,589 You can tear up the furniture. 766 03:29:40,613 --> 03:29:45,406 You can do crazy stuff you just don't normally get to do. 767 03:29:50,096 --> 03:29:51,382 It's horror, low budget horror. 768 03:29:51,406 --> 03:29:53,107 But this had a building audience 769 03:29:53,131 --> 03:29:54,900 and a genre that had legs. 770 03:29:54,924 --> 03:29:56,038 It was like heavy metal, man. 771 03:29:56,062 --> 03:29:57,993 This ain't going away. 772 03:30:00,648 --> 03:30:01,279 This is gonna be a decades long thing. 773 03:30:01,303 --> 03:30:02,303 Get used to it. 774 03:30:03,200 --> 03:30:04,820 It's not cranberry sauce, Artie. 775 03:30:07,303 --> 03:30:09,303 It's not cranberry sauce. 776 03:30:15,234 --> 03:30:18,924 They have opened "The Gate". 777 03:30:19,820 --> 03:30:21,658 Pray it's not too late. 778 03:30:21,682 --> 03:30:23,831 One of the greatest things about "The Gate" 779 03:30:23,855 --> 03:30:25,762 is that for a lot of kids at that time, 780 03:30:25,786 --> 03:30:28,589 it became their gateway horror movie, 781 03:30:28,613 --> 03:30:30,969 because it felt like a kids movie 782 03:30:30,993 --> 03:30:34,382 that didn't play by the kids movies rules. 783 03:30:34,406 --> 03:30:35,349 Already filled it in. 784 03:30:35,373 --> 03:30:37,244 Whoa, whoa! 785 03:30:37,268 --> 03:30:39,072 "The Gate" is about a group of kids 786 03:30:39,096 --> 03:30:40,727 that dig a hole in their backyard, 787 03:30:40,751 --> 03:30:42,958 and find demons. 788 03:30:44,165 --> 03:30:45,210 Hi. 789 03:30:45,234 --> 03:30:46,234 Hey. 790 03:30:50,544 --> 03:30:52,210 It's a PG-13 horror film. 791 03:30:52,234 --> 03:30:53,796 I always saw it as a film 792 03:30:53,820 --> 03:30:55,796 that the whole family could watch, 793 03:30:55,820 --> 03:30:58,865 that adults could be sort of nostalgic 794 03:30:58,889 --> 03:31:02,176 about growing up, and kids could find an adventure in it. 795 03:31:02,400 --> 03:31:03,582 Sacrifices. 796 03:31:03,606 --> 03:31:05,479 We had so much fun making that movie, 797 03:31:05,503 --> 03:31:07,307 even though it was very difficult. 798 03:31:07,331 --> 03:31:08,548 You know, money was short. 799 03:31:08,572 --> 03:31:10,651 All those people put their heart into it. 800 03:31:10,675 --> 03:31:14,020 The actors, the writers, the special effects people. 801 03:31:18,641 --> 03:31:22,376 We were able to pull the most out of everybody. 802 03:31:22,400 --> 03:31:24,986 The album, backwards! 803 03:31:26,262 --> 03:31:28,100 Tells you how to close the gate. 804 03:31:28,124 --> 03:31:31,479 It's like the first heavy metal horror movie for kids. 805 03:31:31,503 --> 03:31:33,031 They got their lyrics from this thing 806 03:31:33,055 --> 03:31:34,124 called the Dark Book. 807 03:31:35,055 --> 03:31:36,686 It's like the Bible for demons. 808 03:31:36,710 --> 03:31:37,996 So you have somebody like Tibor, 809 03:31:38,020 --> 03:31:39,962 who had a background working 810 03:31:39,986 --> 03:31:41,720 in heavy metal music videos 811 03:31:41,744 --> 03:31:44,444 coming in and being able to infuse that 812 03:31:44,468 --> 03:31:47,813 into this kids movie is pretty astounding. 813 03:31:49,986 --> 03:31:52,824 It's always much scarier when horror 814 03:31:52,848 --> 03:31:55,675 comes into the normal world. 815 03:31:57,744 --> 03:31:59,755 Stephen Dorff was just so cool to me 816 03:31:59,779 --> 03:32:01,169 when I was a kid. 817 03:32:01,193 --> 03:32:03,513 It seemed like something that could happen to me. 818 03:32:03,537 --> 03:32:04,962 I could look down in my backyard 819 03:32:04,986 --> 03:32:06,789 and I was always sure there was the potential 820 03:32:06,813 --> 03:32:09,365 for a portal, monsters. 821 03:32:14,882 --> 03:32:17,203 I always feel kids can make great actors 822 03:32:17,227 --> 03:32:20,410 if you can key into them, you treat them like adults. 823 03:32:20,434 --> 03:32:21,893 When they're in the right frame of mind, 824 03:32:21,917 --> 03:32:23,376 you can do amazing things, 825 03:32:23,400 --> 03:32:25,272 and get very real performances. 826 03:32:25,296 --> 03:32:26,755 We have to close the gate. 827 03:32:26,779 --> 03:32:28,617 We have to go to the hole and do it right. 828 03:32:28,641 --> 03:32:31,065 You mean you guys were serious about that demon stuff? 829 03:32:31,089 --> 03:32:32,996 The main theme of "The Gate" to me 830 03:32:33,020 --> 03:32:37,134 is sibling relationships and friendship 831 03:32:37,158 --> 03:32:40,031 to overcome insurmountable odds. 832 03:32:40,055 --> 03:32:41,572 You need your friends. 833 03:32:45,227 --> 03:32:46,927 I think of all the effects that they were 834 03:32:46,951 --> 03:32:49,779 able to do in that movie courtesy of Randall William Cook. 835 03:32:54,848 --> 03:32:56,100 I was already reading Fangoria 836 03:32:56,124 --> 03:32:57,962 and I was into the effect part of it, 837 03:32:57,986 --> 03:33:00,238 like the technical part of horror filmmaking. 838 03:33:00,262 --> 03:33:03,134 I knew that we would have to use an encyclopedia of effects. 839 03:33:03,158 --> 03:33:05,548 There was no one solution to all that stuff. 840 03:33:05,572 --> 03:33:08,238 And thank goodness that Randy was so good 841 03:33:08,262 --> 03:33:10,262 at all of those things. 842 03:33:14,193 --> 03:33:15,858 When the workman falls over and breaks into the minions, 843 03:33:15,882 --> 03:33:19,307 that to me is like a seminal important moment 844 03:33:19,331 --> 03:33:21,065 in the movie where you go wow. 845 03:33:21,089 --> 03:33:22,917 Even I go wow. 846 03:33:25,917 --> 03:33:29,341 But it is still cool as hell to watch that sequence, 847 03:33:29,365 --> 03:33:31,376 and I wish we got more movies 848 03:33:31,400 --> 03:33:33,203 that tried to do stuff like that more these days. 849 03:33:33,227 --> 03:33:35,617 Like, I don't care if it looks a little dated. 850 03:33:35,641 --> 03:33:36,549 I don't. 851 03:33:36,573 --> 03:33:37,813 Because it's still magic to me. 852 03:33:39,089 --> 03:33:41,031 It's like a bespoke movie. 853 03:33:41,055 --> 03:33:42,444 It's handmade. 854 03:33:42,468 --> 03:33:44,031 It's kind of rough around the edges that way. 855 03:33:44,055 --> 03:33:45,996 That's what draws people to it. 856 03:33:46,020 --> 03:33:48,020 They can see the love that went into it. 857 03:33:58,882 --> 03:34:00,755 "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" is the story 858 03:34:00,779 --> 03:34:04,962 of a band called The Tritons, led by Thor, 859 03:34:04,986 --> 03:34:09,100 who was a very popular wrestler, rock and roller. 860 03:34:09,124 --> 03:34:11,410 He was very popular up in Canada. 861 03:34:11,434 --> 03:34:15,651 So this band comes to this tiny little farmhouse 862 03:34:15,675 --> 03:34:17,513 on the outskirts of Toronto 863 03:34:17,537 --> 03:34:20,238 to record their new album. 864 03:34:20,262 --> 03:34:21,755 It's kind of like a vacation. 865 03:34:21,779 --> 03:34:24,031 I like it. 866 03:34:24,055 --> 03:34:24,858 You would. 867 03:34:24,882 --> 03:34:25,687 Come on you two. 868 03:34:25,711 --> 03:34:26,962 Don't start. 869 03:34:26,986 --> 03:34:28,341 It turns out that they are in a house 870 03:34:28,365 --> 03:34:31,331 that had been possessed. 871 03:34:34,365 --> 03:34:36,789 And one by one, they start being killed off 872 03:34:36,813 --> 03:34:38,331 by these demos. 873 03:34:42,848 --> 03:34:43,893 Kind of this quirky movie 874 03:34:43,917 --> 03:34:45,686 directed by John Fasano. 875 03:34:45,710 --> 03:34:47,307 It's hard to call these things demons. 876 03:34:47,331 --> 03:34:48,365 They're puppets. 877 03:34:49,951 --> 03:34:51,031 I can destroy and destruct- 878 03:34:52,572 --> 03:34:56,376 Demons that are rejects from Fraggle Rock. 879 03:34:56,400 --> 03:34:59,272 We talked so much about the glorious age 880 03:34:59,296 --> 03:35:01,272 of practical effects of the 80s, 881 03:35:01,296 --> 03:35:05,055 but sometimes, they were not so glorious. 882 03:35:10,503 --> 03:35:12,134 My favorite monster effect 883 03:35:12,158 --> 03:35:14,996 in "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" is one that I did. 884 03:35:15,020 --> 03:35:16,331 The chicken monster. 885 03:35:18,641 --> 03:35:20,824 That was a really fun project to work on. 886 03:35:20,848 --> 03:35:22,813 And then I got to puppeteer it. 887 03:35:27,293 --> 03:35:29,613 Jon Thor is a sweetheart. 888 03:35:29,637 --> 03:35:31,027 He's always so positive. 889 03:35:31,051 --> 03:35:32,751 He was up for anything. 890 03:35:32,775 --> 03:35:35,441 ♪ You get me any day 891 03:35:35,465 --> 03:35:36,648 ♪ Energy 892 03:35:36,672 --> 03:35:39,407 It was November, and we had that wind 893 03:35:39,431 --> 03:35:41,165 coming off of Lake Ontario, 894 03:35:41,189 --> 03:35:43,441 hitting you like a brick wall. 895 03:35:43,465 --> 03:35:45,096 This house that we were shooting in, 896 03:35:45,120 --> 03:35:48,200 which had no electricity, had no hot water, 897 03:35:48,224 --> 03:35:51,476 and they're in a shower, buck naked in this shower, 898 03:35:51,500 --> 03:35:54,131 freezing to death. 899 03:35:54,155 --> 03:35:56,855 I mean, that water was ice cold. 900 03:35:56,879 --> 03:36:00,017 But the ending is not to be missed. 901 03:36:03,258 --> 03:36:06,441 I walked onto set, and I saw Jon standing there 902 03:36:06,465 --> 03:36:10,131 in this little gold Speedo, and codpiece, 903 03:36:10,155 --> 03:36:12,682 and this gold lame cape. 904 03:36:12,706 --> 03:36:13,958 And at one point, I looked over, 905 03:36:13,982 --> 03:36:16,303 and I could see his cape was starting 906 03:36:16,327 --> 03:36:18,441 to spark and catch fire. 907 03:36:18,465 --> 03:36:19,958 Oh my god, that would have been 908 03:36:19,982 --> 03:36:22,913 just the icing on the cake for sure. 909 03:36:25,120 --> 03:36:27,372 Of course, you gotta love the big devil at the end. 910 03:36:27,396 --> 03:36:29,500 It was a disaster. 911 03:36:30,637 --> 03:36:31,889 Nice effect, Randy. 912 03:36:31,913 --> 03:36:33,544 It weighed 50 pounds at least. 913 03:36:33,568 --> 03:36:35,544 And it was so unwieldy. 914 03:36:35,568 --> 03:36:37,362 It was just a mess. 915 03:36:38,500 --> 03:36:40,062 But of course that's the scene that everybody 916 03:36:40,086 --> 03:36:43,165 loves the most in that movie, because it's so outrageous. 917 03:36:43,189 --> 03:36:45,327 Like you have to see this to believe it. 918 03:36:58,706 --> 03:37:00,924 "Jaws" follows in a line of horror films 919 03:37:00,948 --> 03:37:04,086 where nature is out to kill you. 920 03:37:06,500 --> 03:37:09,820 "Jaws: The Revenge". 921 03:37:09,844 --> 03:37:12,682 It's just the idea that meeting a shark 922 03:37:12,706 --> 03:37:14,338 face to face in the water 923 03:37:14,362 --> 03:37:18,293 is more likely than finding Jason Voorhees in the water. 924 03:37:19,741 --> 03:37:21,476 The Jaws sequels were never like the first movie, 925 03:37:21,500 --> 03:37:23,338 and so anytime they sequelize something, 926 03:37:23,362 --> 03:37:25,476 it was like, oh god, what are they gonna do? 927 03:37:25,500 --> 03:37:28,269 Lorraine Gary, who once again stars 928 03:37:28,293 --> 03:37:30,613 as Chief Brody's wife, now a widow, 929 03:37:30,637 --> 03:37:32,786 she travels to the Bahamas, 930 03:37:32,810 --> 03:37:34,579 and what do you know? 931 03:37:34,603 --> 03:37:37,706 That goddam shark is still after her. 932 03:37:46,017 --> 03:37:48,648 And she's convinced that the shark 933 03:37:48,672 --> 03:37:50,648 is following her family, 934 03:37:50,672 --> 03:37:53,544 and she seems to have some telepathic link 935 03:37:53,568 --> 03:37:55,086 with the shark. 936 03:37:58,431 --> 03:38:01,120 It's such a far cry from Spielberg's original. 937 03:38:02,982 --> 03:38:05,786 Just like the idea of a shark being a slasher movie 938 03:38:05,810 --> 03:38:08,924 villain that's gonna follow these people 939 03:38:08,948 --> 03:38:12,269 from Amity Island to the Bahamas. 940 03:38:12,293 --> 03:38:15,027 It has a grudge against the Brody family. 941 03:38:15,051 --> 03:38:17,303 It's just absolutely ridiculous. 942 03:38:17,327 --> 03:38:18,958 - Their family- - What shark is this? 943 03:38:18,982 --> 03:38:20,269 A friend of the other shark. 944 03:38:20,293 --> 03:38:21,510 Is this like a cousin, a nephew? 945 03:38:21,534 --> 03:38:22,477 You got it. 946 03:38:22,501 --> 03:38:23,544 They just 947 03:38:23,568 --> 03:38:25,407 put that movie together, really quick. 948 03:38:25,431 --> 03:38:27,338 They cast all of us before they even made 949 03:38:27,362 --> 03:38:29,613 the arrangements with the special effects guys. 950 03:38:29,637 --> 03:38:31,855 They kind of did them almost at the last minute, 951 03:38:31,879 --> 03:38:33,269 and they were like, wait a minute. 952 03:38:33,293 --> 03:38:36,062 We can't do this, what you wrote in the script. 953 03:38:36,086 --> 03:38:37,786 We can do something like this, 954 03:38:37,810 --> 03:38:39,476 but we can't do that. 955 03:38:39,500 --> 03:38:41,855 So they had to rewrite the scripts. 956 03:38:41,879 --> 03:38:43,338 I got a script that I thought 957 03:38:43,362 --> 03:38:44,648 oh, this is a pretty good script, you know? 958 03:38:44,672 --> 03:38:46,165 I believe it, I play this guy. 959 03:38:46,189 --> 03:38:47,717 Everything this guy does makes sense. 960 03:38:47,741 --> 03:38:49,165 This is not gonna be stupid. 961 03:38:49,189 --> 03:38:50,613 It's gonna be great. 962 03:38:50,637 --> 03:38:52,338 About three days before we started shooting, 963 03:38:52,362 --> 03:38:53,958 I get a new script 964 03:38:54,082 --> 03:38:56,265 that accommodates all the technical stuff 965 03:38:56,289 --> 03:38:58,438 that can be done. 966 03:38:58,462 --> 03:39:01,093 For me, was like, oh god. 967 03:39:01,117 --> 03:39:03,058 I couldn't make sense of it, 968 03:39:03,082 --> 03:39:04,841 so I was pissed off all the time. 969 03:39:06,255 --> 03:39:08,886 We were like that, you just try not to make it unbelievable 970 03:39:08,910 --> 03:39:10,910 and it's hard. 971 03:39:16,148 --> 03:39:18,941 I didn't know sharks sound like that. 972 03:39:20,872 --> 03:39:22,148 Jesus Christ! 973 03:39:25,355 --> 03:39:27,503 What's great about it is Christmas. 974 03:39:27,527 --> 03:39:29,055 Who saw that coming? 975 03:39:29,079 --> 03:39:32,365 Like, "Jaws 4: The Revenge", Christmas Jaws. 976 03:39:32,389 --> 03:39:34,365 ♪ The first noel 977 03:39:34,389 --> 03:39:36,055 ♪ The angels 978 03:39:36,079 --> 03:39:37,676 We blew through most of the acting 979 03:39:37,700 --> 03:39:40,193 in three weeks in that movie. 980 03:39:40,317 --> 03:39:42,258 I was on that movie for five months. 981 03:39:42,282 --> 03:39:45,327 So there was a lot of sitting out in the ocean. 982 03:39:45,351 --> 03:39:48,534 We spent months sitting doing nothing 983 03:39:48,558 --> 03:39:50,041 because the shark didn't work. 984 03:39:51,213 --> 03:39:52,396 We were shooting this one scene, 985 03:39:52,420 --> 03:39:54,569 and it was in a little, little tiny rowboat. 986 03:39:54,593 --> 03:39:56,051 The whole boat goes down. 987 03:39:56,075 --> 03:39:58,707 The battery pack that powers the camera 988 03:39:58,731 --> 03:40:01,672 is encased in plastic, but it might leak. 989 03:40:01,696 --> 03:40:04,776 So as soon as that becomes submerged, 990 03:40:04,800 --> 03:40:07,776 this hand grabs me by the shirt 991 03:40:07,800 --> 03:40:09,982 with one hand, yanks me out of the boat. 992 03:40:10,006 --> 03:40:10,914 It was Michael Caine. 993 03:40:10,938 --> 03:40:13,155 Get the fuck out of that boat! 994 03:40:13,179 --> 03:40:14,534 I mean, I don't know that I would have been electrocuted, 995 03:40:14,558 --> 03:40:16,327 but that's what he was thinking. 996 03:40:16,351 --> 03:40:18,120 So he just acted like that. 997 03:40:18,144 --> 03:40:19,879 Hang onto your socks, lads. 998 03:40:19,903 --> 03:40:22,558 Michael Caine saved my life. 999 03:40:23,765 --> 03:40:27,662 Oh shit! 1000 03:40:35,317 --> 03:40:37,224 Even if you kill them, 1001 03:40:37,248 --> 03:40:39,662 they're still deadly. 1002 03:40:41,455 --> 03:40:42,465 "Creepozoids". 1003 03:40:42,489 --> 03:40:44,603 Fun movie, little TNA 1004 03:40:44,627 --> 03:40:46,741 with a wonderful director, David DeCoteau, 1005 03:40:46,765 --> 03:40:49,317 who remains one of my closest friends. 1006 03:40:54,179 --> 03:40:59,075 "Creepozoids" is a very, very, very low budget alien. 1007 03:41:02,110 --> 03:41:04,534 It was really fun, because we did it in, 1008 03:41:04,558 --> 03:41:07,776 which then, was really quick, seven days. 1009 03:41:07,800 --> 03:41:10,258 This place may not have all the comforts of civilization. 1010 03:41:10,282 --> 03:41:12,189 Civilization doesn't have all the comforts 1011 03:41:12,213 --> 03:41:14,396 of civilization anymore. 1012 03:41:14,420 --> 03:41:15,328 That's just my point. 1013 03:41:15,352 --> 03:41:17,948 There's this horrible thing 1014 03:41:17,972 --> 03:41:20,741 out after us that was not from this earth, 1015 03:41:20,765 --> 03:41:22,903 and it's killing us one by one. 1016 03:41:30,765 --> 03:41:34,155 When you are doing low budget things, 1017 03:41:34,179 --> 03:41:37,017 the monsters are usually very fragile. 1018 03:41:37,041 --> 03:41:39,776 You had to be very careful of these monsters. 1019 03:41:39,800 --> 03:41:43,431 So you're battling, but holding back too, 1020 03:41:43,455 --> 03:41:45,248 because you could break them. 1021 03:41:50,248 --> 03:41:52,017 My mom came to set, 1022 03:41:52,041 --> 03:41:54,293 and both of us are afraid of rats. 1023 03:41:54,317 --> 03:41:55,396 So what do they have? 1024 03:41:55,420 --> 03:41:58,179 These huge rats. 1025 03:42:05,558 --> 03:42:07,431 It didn't look bad, that baby mutant, 1026 03:42:07,455 --> 03:42:09,489 but it was kind of silly. 1027 03:42:12,489 --> 03:42:15,844 It was a fun adventure, because that was the first time 1028 03:42:15,868 --> 03:42:19,672 I really got to fight, and be like, no makeup, 1029 03:42:19,696 --> 03:42:21,317 and a soldier. 1030 03:42:22,800 --> 03:42:26,844 I did, in "Creepozoids", had to battle a stunt person, 1031 03:42:26,868 --> 03:42:29,293 which was interesting, because they go all out 1032 03:42:29,317 --> 03:42:30,844 I'm like oh, I'm gonna get killed. 1033 03:42:30,868 --> 03:42:32,386 I'm gonna get hurt. 1034 03:42:35,282 --> 03:42:37,810 Linnea and I go back to a movie I made 1035 03:42:37,834 --> 03:42:39,707 1000 years before that, which is hard to believe, 1036 03:42:39,731 --> 03:42:41,776 called "Fairytales", and before that, 1037 03:42:41,800 --> 03:42:43,913 a movie called "Auditions". 1038 03:42:43,937 --> 03:42:45,189 It became apparent that most 1039 03:42:45,213 --> 03:42:47,776 of the female applicants were non-professionals. 1040 03:42:47,800 --> 03:42:50,120 The whole idea was they would come in, 1041 03:42:50,144 --> 03:42:52,776 sign a release, get paid I think $10, 1042 03:42:52,800 --> 03:42:55,155 because we made it clear that their audition 1043 03:42:55,179 --> 03:42:56,844 was gonna be used in the movie. 1044 03:42:56,868 --> 03:42:58,500 And the girls had to take their tops off, 1045 03:42:58,524 --> 03:43:00,638 because they had to be kind of sexy 1046 03:43:00,662 --> 03:43:02,017 fairy godmother, Cinderella. 1047 03:43:02,041 --> 03:43:03,707 I forget the story. 1048 03:43:03,731 --> 03:43:05,500 Many years later, suddenly she's back 1049 03:43:05,524 --> 03:43:07,879 as a more mature still very young woman 1050 03:43:07,903 --> 03:43:09,913 in the lead of "Creepozoids". 1051 03:43:09,937 --> 03:43:12,362 When I did "Creepozoids", this one girl 1052 03:43:12,386 --> 03:43:14,913 would not do a topless scene. 1053 03:43:14,937 --> 03:43:16,396 She was such a prude, I thought. 1054 03:43:16,420 --> 03:43:18,948 And she was doing all this backstory on herself, 1055 03:43:18,972 --> 03:43:21,293 like who is my mother, who is my father. 1056 03:43:21,317 --> 03:43:24,293 On a $60,000 film. 1057 03:43:24,317 --> 03:43:26,051 But she went on to big things. 1058 03:43:26,075 --> 03:43:28,017 She became a porn star. 1059 03:43:28,041 --> 03:43:29,948 And I was like, wait a minute. 1060 03:43:29,972 --> 03:43:31,120 You wouldn't take off your top. 1061 03:43:31,144 --> 03:43:32,603 Now you're a porn star. 1062 03:43:32,627 --> 03:43:35,558 Let's not turn this into a slumber party, okay? 1063 03:43:52,868 --> 03:43:54,982 "Zombie Nightmare" is the story of a young man 1064 03:43:55,006 --> 03:43:58,017 who is murdered, run over with a car 1065 03:43:58,041 --> 03:44:00,144 by these bunch of teenagers. 1066 03:44:03,282 --> 03:44:06,086 His mother goes to a voodoo woman 1067 03:44:06,110 --> 03:44:07,534 to bring him back to life 1068 03:44:07,558 --> 03:44:10,396 to take revenge on these kids, 1069 03:44:10,420 --> 03:44:11,800 these spoiled brats. 1070 03:44:13,179 --> 03:44:14,156 See look, I told you. 1071 03:44:14,180 --> 03:44:15,386 There's nobody here. 1072 03:44:19,524 --> 03:44:22,672 At the same time, there are two detectives 1073 03:44:22,696 --> 03:44:24,224 working to try to figure out 1074 03:44:24,248 --> 03:44:26,189 who's killing these kids. 1075 03:44:26,213 --> 03:44:28,120 Let's not have any more high school kids 1076 03:44:28,144 --> 03:44:29,465 turn up dead. 1077 03:44:29,489 --> 03:44:30,672 Understand? 1078 03:44:30,696 --> 03:44:33,810 The script was actually much better 1079 03:44:33,834 --> 03:44:37,741 than the final film, that John Fasano wrote, by the way. 1080 03:44:37,765 --> 03:44:40,776 It was about racial tensions, also. 1081 03:44:40,800 --> 03:44:41,708 Pretty young thing has just walked 1082 03:44:41,732 --> 03:44:43,155 into the wrong neighborhood. 1083 03:44:43,179 --> 03:44:45,189 I do believe you're right, Mr. Barnes. 1084 03:44:45,213 --> 03:44:46,396 Hey, don't be so uptight- 1085 03:44:46,420 --> 03:44:48,603 I went to Montreal with Adam West. 1086 03:44:48,627 --> 03:44:49,948 It was surreal. 1087 03:44:49,972 --> 03:44:51,638 It was like, I can't believe this. 1088 03:44:51,662 --> 03:44:54,327 I'm acting in a monster movie 1089 03:44:54,351 --> 03:44:56,155 with my childhood hero. 1090 03:44:56,179 --> 03:44:57,179 Come on, Frank. 1091 03:44:58,179 --> 03:44:59,627 I'll buy you a drink. 1092 03:45:00,558 --> 03:45:02,776 Jon Thor, he actually replaced 1093 03:45:02,800 --> 03:45:06,155 the original zombie actor in "Zombie Nightmare". 1094 03:45:06,179 --> 03:45:09,776 We actually filmed the end of the movie first 1095 03:45:09,800 --> 03:45:13,465 so the zombie was still played by Peewee, the stuntman. 1096 03:45:13,489 --> 03:45:15,593 And he's big guy. 1097 03:45:20,593 --> 03:45:24,155 I'm the young detective, and I arrive at this garage, 1098 03:45:24,179 --> 03:45:26,362 and I get there just in time to see 1099 03:45:26,386 --> 03:45:28,569 the zombie kill Tia Carrere. 1100 03:45:28,593 --> 03:45:29,948 Right? 1101 03:45:29,972 --> 03:45:30,777 Police! 1102 03:45:30,801 --> 03:45:32,075 Hands in the air! 1103 03:45:34,351 --> 03:45:36,948 He knocks the gun aside, 1104 03:45:36,972 --> 03:45:38,189 and picks me up by the throat, 1105 03:45:38,213 --> 03:45:40,317 and then throws me onto a car. 1106 03:45:43,041 --> 03:45:44,396 It's my first movie. 1107 03:45:44,420 --> 03:45:45,672 I'm fighting a monster. 1108 03:45:45,696 --> 03:45:47,731 This is what I wanted my whole life, right? 1109 03:45:49,075 --> 03:45:51,293 Mystery Science Theater discovering "Zombie Nightmare" 1110 03:45:51,317 --> 03:45:55,396 definitely saved that movie from disappearing forever. 1111 03:45:55,420 --> 03:45:57,189 It's called "Zombie Nightmare", 1112 03:45:57,213 --> 03:46:00,006 and it stars Adam West and... 1113 03:46:02,317 --> 03:46:05,017 There's a scene when one of the zombie characters 1114 03:46:05,041 --> 03:46:06,982 is essentially dying. 1115 03:46:07,006 --> 03:46:09,500 His mouth is open, and his eyes have sunken back, 1116 03:46:09,524 --> 03:46:12,707 and there's all of this mist coming out of him. 1117 03:46:12,731 --> 03:46:14,569 At the time I thought, oh wow. 1118 03:46:14,593 --> 03:46:16,293 That really looks good. 1119 03:46:16,317 --> 03:46:19,638 Maybe this is gonna be good. 1120 03:46:19,662 --> 03:46:22,913 I had hope, anyway. 1121 03:46:22,937 --> 03:46:23,777 Kill me! 1122 03:46:23,801 --> 03:46:25,086 Kill me, Frank! 1123 03:46:25,110 --> 03:46:26,317 Frank! 1124 03:46:36,834 --> 03:46:39,120 "The Video Dead". 1125 03:46:39,144 --> 03:46:42,465 I love "Video Dead", because it does something different 1126 03:46:42,489 --> 03:46:44,179 with the zombie genre. 1127 03:46:47,489 --> 03:46:51,534 We're given this weird nightmarish suburbia, 1128 03:46:51,558 --> 03:46:53,913 where these zombies are killing people, 1129 03:46:54,137 --> 03:46:57,320 but they all have a story. 1130 03:46:57,344 --> 03:46:58,562 They try to live. 1131 03:46:58,586 --> 03:47:00,000 Like, they try to adapt. 1132 03:47:03,379 --> 03:47:05,907 You have this haunted TV that gets delivered. 1133 03:47:06,031 --> 03:47:07,558 And initially it goes to a writer 1134 03:47:07,582 --> 03:47:08,731 in the opening of the film, 1135 03:47:08,755 --> 03:47:10,351 who's played by Michael St. Michaels, 1136 03:47:10,375 --> 03:47:11,765 who would eventually go on to become 1137 03:47:11,789 --> 03:47:13,065 the Greasy Strangler. 1138 03:47:14,444 --> 03:47:18,282 The TV somehow is a portal for this zombie movie, 1139 03:47:18,306 --> 03:47:21,341 but also real zombies as well. 1140 03:47:22,927 --> 03:47:25,179 That's the first movie I've ever died twice in, 1141 03:47:25,203 --> 03:47:26,582 and one time I killed me. 1142 03:47:27,996 --> 03:47:31,007 When I shot it, I was the first 20 minutes of the film. 1143 03:47:31,031 --> 03:47:32,869 The distributor didn't want that, 1144 03:47:32,893 --> 03:47:35,524 so they took out a bunch of my scenes. 1145 03:47:35,548 --> 03:47:37,834 The hardest thing I did in "The Video Dead" 1146 03:47:37,858 --> 03:47:39,179 was being dead. 1147 03:47:39,203 --> 03:47:41,007 That scene where they open the door. 1148 03:47:41,031 --> 03:47:42,903 We had to do that two or three times 1149 03:47:42,927 --> 03:47:45,548 because I could not stop shivering. 1150 03:47:46,444 --> 03:47:47,662 Holy shit! 1151 03:47:47,686 --> 03:47:48,731 A few days later, they called me up 1152 03:47:48,755 --> 03:47:50,317 and said would I be interested 1153 03:47:50,341 --> 03:47:52,834 in being in the movie some more? 1154 03:47:52,858 --> 03:47:55,386 I came back as Jack the Zombie. 1155 03:47:55,410 --> 03:47:59,213 The actor who originally played Jack the Zombie had died. 1156 03:47:59,237 --> 03:48:00,869 I don't know how or why, 1157 03:48:00,893 --> 03:48:02,351 so they had a vacancy, and I was 1158 03:48:02,375 --> 03:48:05,100 the right height and weight. 1159 03:48:07,858 --> 03:48:10,144 All those zombies had personality. 1160 03:48:10,168 --> 03:48:12,524 They weren't just eating brains 1161 03:48:12,548 --> 03:48:15,007 for the sake of eating brains. 1162 03:48:15,031 --> 03:48:16,144 They were going places. 1163 03:48:16,168 --> 03:48:17,306 They were doing things. 1164 03:48:20,582 --> 03:48:22,317 Those are some of the best zombies we have 1165 03:48:22,341 --> 03:48:24,282 of the entire 1980s decade. 1166 03:48:24,306 --> 03:48:27,755 The bride zombie, she's doing all these domestic things. 1167 03:48:31,582 --> 03:48:35,627 And then you have the rockabilly Flock of Seagulls zombie, 1168 03:48:35,851 --> 03:48:38,817 who's kind of like the ladies man of the zombies. 1169 03:48:43,955 --> 03:48:47,724 My favorite scene is when I'm the way too cool zombie. 1170 03:48:47,748 --> 03:48:52,034 Yes, I like you, you know? 1171 03:48:52,058 --> 03:48:54,782 I could tell I really creeped her out. 1172 03:48:56,541 --> 03:48:59,000 I really enjoyed working with Robert Scott. 1173 03:48:59,024 --> 03:49:00,862 He really didn't want anybody to know 1174 03:49:00,886 --> 03:49:04,748 that that film had only cost $35,000. 1175 03:49:05,920 --> 03:49:08,103 It was shot on video, transferred to film, 1176 03:49:08,127 --> 03:49:11,782 and then transferred back to video again. 1177 03:49:16,093 --> 03:49:18,517 It was generating a nice amount of money here and there, 1178 03:49:18,541 --> 03:49:21,896 prior to Avco Embassy going bankrupt. 1179 03:49:21,920 --> 03:49:24,541 People were impressed that I was in it. 1180 03:49:25,782 --> 03:49:27,379 I didn't have to pay for video rentals 1181 03:49:27,403 --> 03:49:28,989 in a couple video stores. 1182 03:49:30,403 --> 03:49:32,724 This bar I hung out at kept me drunk 1183 03:49:32,748 --> 03:49:34,586 for about six months, because I brought in 1184 03:49:34,610 --> 03:49:38,196 a copy of the thing and showed it at the bar. 1185 03:49:44,162 --> 03:49:45,241 People look at that film, and they wonder 1186 03:49:45,265 --> 03:49:46,758 whatever happened to that guy. 1187 03:49:46,782 --> 03:49:50,093 And now they get their answer in "The Greasy Strangler". 1188 03:50:03,334 --> 03:50:05,448 "Slumber Party Massacre II". 1189 03:50:05,472 --> 03:50:08,276 If you go, don't go all the way. 1190 03:50:08,300 --> 03:50:10,069 Oh god, anybody got any tranqs? 1191 03:50:10,093 --> 03:50:12,827 A lot of us straight boys 1192 03:50:12,851 --> 03:50:15,862 used to wonder in deep thought 1193 03:50:15,886 --> 03:50:17,793 about what must be going on 1194 03:50:17,817 --> 03:50:19,817 when girls are having a slumber party. 1195 03:50:20,748 --> 03:50:22,724 You look like a big chicken. 1196 03:50:22,748 --> 03:50:23,965 Bawk, bawk, bawk! 1197 03:50:23,989 --> 03:50:25,586 I love the "Slumber Party Massacre" series. 1198 03:50:25,610 --> 03:50:27,551 They're all written and directed by women, 1199 03:50:27,575 --> 03:50:30,196 and that shows in the content of the film. 1200 03:50:37,886 --> 03:50:39,517 One of the cool things about "Slumber Party Massacre 1" 1201 03:50:39,541 --> 03:50:42,069 is that it's really satirizing the slasher genre 1202 03:50:42,093 --> 03:50:43,758 at a time when the conversation around 1203 03:50:43,782 --> 03:50:46,482 whether or not slasher films were feminist. 1204 03:50:46,506 --> 03:50:49,368 But "Slumber Party Massacre 2" takes that and runs with it. 1205 03:50:50,231 --> 03:50:51,208 Come on baby! 1206 03:50:51,232 --> 03:50:52,713 We gonna rock and roll! 1207 03:50:54,541 --> 03:50:58,413 "Slumber Party Massacre 2" is actually a meta film. 1208 03:50:58,437 --> 03:51:01,931 A comment on those kinds of slasher movies, 1209 03:51:01,955 --> 03:51:04,644 at the same time that it is one. 1210 03:51:09,403 --> 03:51:11,551 Plus, it's a musical. 1211 03:51:11,575 --> 03:51:14,276 ♪ I love to jam it to the floor ♪ 1212 03:51:14,300 --> 03:51:16,034 ♪ Let its wild parts roar 1213 03:51:16,058 --> 03:51:18,724 I was working for Roger Corman, 1214 03:51:18,748 --> 03:51:22,310 and I said Roger, I'd really like to direct something, 1215 03:51:22,334 --> 03:51:24,758 and he said, okay. 1216 03:51:24,782 --> 03:51:27,689 I have something you can direct immediately. 1217 03:51:27,713 --> 03:51:31,103 He said "Slumber Party Massacre II". 1218 03:51:31,127 --> 03:51:34,989 We have to make it, because I've sold all the rights to it. 1219 03:51:36,472 --> 03:51:37,896 "Slumber Party Massacre II" is about some girls 1220 03:51:37,920 --> 03:51:41,138 who get away for a slumber party at a cottage, 1221 03:51:41,162 --> 03:51:45,517 and it's interrupted by a musical icon serial killer, 1222 03:51:45,541 --> 03:51:47,103 who is going to sing and kill them 1223 03:51:47,127 --> 03:51:49,300 with his crazy guitar. 1224 03:51:50,541 --> 03:51:52,172 Yoo-hoo! 1225 03:51:52,196 --> 03:51:53,517 I'm home! 1226 03:51:53,541 --> 03:51:55,069 What could be more evil 1227 03:51:55,093 --> 03:51:58,300 than a weaponized electric guitar? 1228 03:52:00,713 --> 03:52:02,575 To drill poor innocent victims' heads in? 1229 03:52:04,886 --> 03:52:07,482 I couldn't think of anything that represented 1230 03:52:07,506 --> 03:52:10,724 the phallic nature of rock music 1231 03:52:10,748 --> 03:52:14,368 any better than a guitar that had a drill on the end. 1232 03:52:15,610 --> 03:52:17,862 Atanas Ilitch plays the driller killer. 1233 03:52:17,886 --> 03:52:21,931 And this is Atanas Ilitch's only album. 1234 03:52:21,955 --> 03:52:26,058 If you look, he's holding a cat on the back. 1235 03:52:28,782 --> 03:52:32,482 He was full of lots of enthusiasm and ideas, 1236 03:52:32,506 --> 03:52:35,000 and I didn't have a choreographer, 1237 03:52:35,024 --> 03:52:39,655 so he and I had to make up his "Let's Buzz" dance together, 1238 03:52:39,679 --> 03:52:41,276 and the chorus was 1239 03:52:41,300 --> 03:52:43,241 ♪ Let's buzz 1240 03:52:43,265 --> 03:52:44,276 He's out there. 1241 03:52:44,300 --> 03:52:45,758 ♪ Let's buzz 1242 03:52:45,782 --> 03:52:48,093 It was a sexy song. 1243 03:52:49,265 --> 03:52:52,138 My favorite two things is the dead chicken 1244 03:52:52,162 --> 03:52:54,276 that jumps out of the refrigerator 1245 03:52:54,300 --> 03:52:57,103 onto Crystal Bernard's chest, 1246 03:52:57,127 --> 03:53:00,817 and spews weird liquid out of its cut neck. 1247 03:53:04,955 --> 03:53:07,379 The other one is they're driving away, 1248 03:53:07,403 --> 03:53:10,655 and the Driller Killer, of course, is in the backseat, 1249 03:53:10,679 --> 03:53:15,334 and he drills the kid who's driving through the seat. 1250 03:53:20,058 --> 03:53:24,344 It sold a tremendous amount of video cassettes 1251 03:53:24,368 --> 03:53:27,310 which was what Roger wanted to sell at that point. 1252 03:53:27,334 --> 03:53:30,069 He said it made over $6 million 1253 03:53:30,093 --> 03:53:34,034 on a $390,000 budget. 1254 03:53:34,058 --> 03:53:37,069 It actually got banned in the UK. 1255 03:53:37,393 --> 03:53:39,472 They wrote a letter to Roger 1256 03:53:39,496 --> 03:53:42,920 saying you can't show this film in the UK 1257 03:53:42,944 --> 03:53:47,576 because it's a particularly virulent combination 1258 03:53:47,600 --> 03:53:49,772 of sex and violence. 1259 03:53:54,393 --> 03:53:55,920 I wish I had a copy of that letter. 1260 03:53:55,944 --> 03:53:59,127 They sounded extremely offended. 1261 03:53:59,151 --> 03:54:01,576 The way she broken my heart, 1262 03:54:01,600 --> 03:54:03,713 it made me cry, 1263 03:54:03,737 --> 03:54:06,979 so don't you know she had to die. 1264 03:54:13,531 --> 03:54:16,162 The 80s, like any other film decade, 1265 03:54:16,186 --> 03:54:17,886 was about transition. 1266 03:54:17,910 --> 03:54:20,162 I think that there was forward motion in a lot of fronts, 1267 03:54:20,186 --> 03:54:22,058 and there was backward motion in a lot of fronts. 1268 03:54:22,082 --> 03:54:23,886 Move lady, or I'm gonna blow off 1269 03:54:23,910 --> 03:54:25,334 your old man's 'acho bizeezhiis! 1270 03:54:25,358 --> 03:54:27,644 The 80s was before we were PC. 1271 03:54:27,668 --> 03:54:30,610 Gay people, black people, Asian people, 1272 03:54:30,634 --> 03:54:33,196 in the 80s movies were always the butt of the joke. 1273 03:54:33,220 --> 03:54:34,507 And we just dealt with it. 1274 03:54:34,531 --> 03:54:36,024 We were just used to it. 1275 03:54:36,048 --> 03:54:40,024 Urban stereotypes of black people, Asian stereotypes. 1276 03:54:40,048 --> 03:54:41,713 And yes, they were harmful, 1277 03:54:41,737 --> 03:54:43,886 but we weren't as aware that they were harmful, 1278 03:54:43,910 --> 03:54:47,013 because we just had not awakened ourselves yet. 1279 03:54:52,979 --> 03:54:54,507 No! 1280 03:54:54,531 --> 03:54:56,472 I think stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason, 1281 03:54:56,496 --> 03:54:58,610 because there's a lot of truth in them. 1282 03:54:58,634 --> 03:55:01,438 But I also think that the 80s is more complicated 1283 03:55:01,462 --> 03:55:03,955 and messier than just a reductive, 1284 03:55:03,979 --> 03:55:06,117 the black guy dies first rule. 1285 03:55:11,910 --> 03:55:14,748 I look back at Romero, "Night of the Living Dead", 1286 03:55:14,772 --> 03:55:16,438 a black leading man. 1287 03:55:16,462 --> 03:55:18,886 Very bold move on his part. 1288 03:55:18,910 --> 03:55:21,610 He wasn't there as a symbol of a black man. 1289 03:55:21,634 --> 03:55:23,703 He was there just as a man. 1290 03:55:25,806 --> 03:55:28,024 What people don't give Romero enough credit for 1291 03:55:28,048 --> 03:55:30,817 is that in his zombie trilogy, Romero's always 1292 03:55:30,841 --> 03:55:32,748 putting the underdog at the front. 1293 03:55:32,772 --> 03:55:33,920 Get out of the way, bitch, 1294 03:55:33,944 --> 03:55:35,464 or I'll go right through you with this. 1295 03:55:38,186 --> 03:55:40,989 We're getting to make this a habit, man. 1296 03:55:41,013 --> 03:55:43,196 "Night of the Comet", we had a Mexican man 1297 03:55:43,220 --> 03:55:46,334 as the male lead, which, because it's Los Angeles, 1298 03:55:46,358 --> 03:55:48,127 we didn't think anything of that, 1299 03:55:48,151 --> 03:55:50,531 but everybody else was like, whoa! 1300 03:55:51,600 --> 03:55:52,541 Jeez! 1301 03:55:52,565 --> 03:55:53,685 There goes the neighborhood! 1302 03:55:54,772 --> 03:55:59,531 In those days, it was defiant to cast a Latino. 1303 03:56:01,875 --> 03:56:03,886 I would be very happy when I would watch 1304 03:56:03,910 --> 03:56:07,231 a horror movie back then, and see 1305 03:56:07,255 --> 03:56:10,565 the kind of diversity that did show up. 1306 03:56:13,600 --> 03:56:14,782 Want one? 1307 03:56:14,806 --> 03:56:16,955 Because representation is such a new idea, 1308 03:56:16,979 --> 03:56:19,507 because sometimes you don't know what you don't have, 1309 03:56:19,531 --> 03:56:20,886 until you start to get it, 1310 03:56:20,910 --> 03:56:21,989 and then you're like, oh. 1311 03:56:22,013 --> 03:56:23,393 We didn't have this before. 1312 03:56:24,600 --> 03:56:25,851 Oh, look at that face. 1313 03:56:25,875 --> 03:56:27,220 Okay do the other one. 1314 03:56:29,289 --> 03:56:32,058 I'm from a Filipino family, 1315 03:56:32,082 --> 03:56:35,886 and our culture was never represented. 1316 03:56:35,910 --> 03:56:39,576 Unfortunately, even today, we're very limited. 1317 03:56:39,600 --> 03:56:42,644 Looking back on the way casting was in the 80s, 1318 03:56:42,668 --> 03:56:46,403 I know it can be easy to be upset at the past, 1319 03:56:46,427 --> 03:56:48,955 but it was of its time, 1320 03:56:48,979 --> 03:56:51,082 and it was kind of rough. 1321 03:56:53,703 --> 03:56:54,765 No! 1322 03:56:56,082 --> 03:56:58,058 In the rare instances where you do see yourself 1323 03:56:58,082 --> 03:57:00,369 represented onscreen, or something that is even 1324 03:57:00,393 --> 03:57:03,472 closely akin to you, and it's shown in a negative way, 1325 03:57:03,496 --> 03:57:05,851 or there's violence being done to this person, 1326 03:57:05,875 --> 03:57:07,255 it weighs on you. 1327 03:57:09,013 --> 03:57:12,541 I feel like we can learn from our mistakes, 1328 03:57:12,565 --> 03:57:14,989 but not beat ourselves up about it, 1329 03:57:15,013 --> 03:57:18,806 and not feel like we have to change the edit. 1330 03:57:22,462 --> 03:57:23,748 I don't think we need to throw away 1331 03:57:23,772 --> 03:57:25,817 representation that isn't perfect, 1332 03:57:25,841 --> 03:57:29,024 and in the 1980s, representation was not perfect. 1333 03:57:29,048 --> 03:57:32,679 It's important to remember what the social context is 1334 03:57:32,703 --> 03:57:33,920 when something's made. 1335 03:57:33,944 --> 03:57:35,541 We should be talking about our history. 1336 03:57:35,565 --> 03:57:38,610 There's a reason why this isn't okay now, 1337 03:57:38,634 --> 03:57:40,713 and was happening then. 1338 03:57:40,737 --> 03:57:44,024 Context, context, context is what's important 1339 03:57:44,048 --> 03:57:45,300 when it comes to these films. 1340 03:57:45,324 --> 03:57:47,334 Doesn't it bother you that he's a fag? 1341 03:57:47,358 --> 03:57:48,541 Come on- 1342 03:57:48,565 --> 03:57:50,127 Tell me, Billy. 1343 03:57:50,151 --> 03:57:51,403 Are you a fag? 1344 03:57:51,427 --> 03:57:53,748 We need to talk about more than just the word. 1345 03:57:53,772 --> 03:57:56,265 We need to talk about what the word was doing there, 1346 03:57:56,289 --> 03:57:57,886 and who put it on that page. 1347 03:57:57,910 --> 03:58:00,231 Every filmmaker, their upbringing 1348 03:58:00,255 --> 03:58:02,851 influences their storytelling. 1349 03:58:02,875 --> 03:58:04,989 With that in mind, I began to make my own films, 1350 03:58:05,013 --> 03:58:07,093 and I began to write my own films, 1351 03:58:07,117 --> 03:58:08,989 and I began to create opportunity, 1352 03:58:09,013 --> 03:58:11,644 not only for myself, but for everyone else. 1353 03:58:11,668 --> 03:58:13,265 What do you make of it, Mark? 1354 03:58:13,289 --> 03:58:14,541 Beats me, Chief. 1355 03:58:14,565 --> 03:58:16,334 Seems like the work of pathological weirdos. 1356 03:58:16,358 --> 03:58:19,979 Representation being a double-edged sword. 1357 03:58:21,462 --> 03:58:22,644 I'm really getting scared. 1358 03:58:22,668 --> 03:58:24,162 I can't take back any movies I did, 1359 03:58:24,186 --> 03:58:25,610 and I don't want to. 1360 03:58:25,634 --> 03:58:29,024 I represent as far as I can what I look like 1361 03:58:29,048 --> 03:58:30,886 in the group of people I come from, 1362 03:58:30,910 --> 03:58:33,127 but I never pretended, and I don't say 1363 03:58:33,151 --> 03:58:35,127 I'm speaking for everybody. 1364 03:58:35,151 --> 03:58:36,748 I just have my little lane, 1365 03:58:36,772 --> 03:58:38,196 and I try to stick to my lane. 1366 03:58:38,220 --> 03:58:40,093 When you look at horror of the late 1970s, 1367 03:58:40,117 --> 03:58:41,989 early 1980s, we start to see 1368 03:58:42,013 --> 03:58:43,989 actual queer representation trickle in. 1369 03:58:44,113 --> 03:58:47,296 We see gay guys kicking ass in films like "Siege", 1370 03:58:47,420 --> 03:58:49,248 and "Savage Weekend". 1371 03:58:53,279 --> 03:58:56,220 That was getting way more normalized in the 70s, 1372 03:58:56,244 --> 03:58:58,117 and then when AIDS hit, they all got shoved 1373 03:58:58,141 --> 03:58:59,634 back in the closet pretty hard. 1374 03:58:59,658 --> 03:59:02,462 Suddenly, there is very much no longer an interest 1375 03:59:02,486 --> 03:59:05,427 in having queer characters normalized in those films. 1376 03:59:05,451 --> 03:59:06,841 It was a big elephant in the room, 1377 03:59:06,865 --> 03:59:08,186 and I think a lot of horror filmmakers 1378 03:59:08,210 --> 03:59:10,082 didn't want to bother navigating that. 1379 03:59:10,106 --> 03:59:12,944 It's part of the evolutionary process of horror. 1380 03:59:12,968 --> 03:59:16,565 For me, like it was such an educational process 1381 03:59:16,589 --> 03:59:19,876 to be able to go back and look at how 1382 03:59:19,900 --> 03:59:21,807 we've changed, and how our dialogue, 1383 03:59:21,831 --> 03:59:25,037 and how our discussion of these movies has changed. 1384 03:59:28,348 --> 03:59:29,451 Oh god, she's a boy. 1385 03:59:30,968 --> 03:59:33,220 It's hard to compare the 1980s 1386 03:59:33,244 --> 03:59:36,082 and representation in horror to what we have today. 1387 03:59:36,106 --> 03:59:38,876 Because what we have is a conversation happening 1388 03:59:38,900 --> 03:59:42,141 that's asking for what we want our future to look like. 1389 03:59:44,520 --> 03:59:47,186 I look at everything that happens in the past 1390 03:59:47,210 --> 03:59:50,244 as opportunities to do much, much better in the future. 1391 03:59:51,900 --> 03:59:54,669 It was once said to me that representation is a journey, 1392 03:59:54,693 --> 03:59:56,186 not a destination. 1393 03:59:56,210 --> 03:59:58,462 So to me, representation in the 80s 1394 03:59:58,486 --> 04:00:00,220 is a work in progress. 1395 04:00:00,244 --> 04:00:02,841 Representation now is a work in progress. 1396 04:00:02,865 --> 04:00:04,738 There's forward movement, and there's backward movement, 1397 04:00:04,762 --> 04:00:07,772 but you can't snapshot it and say this is what it was. 1398 04:00:07,796 --> 04:00:09,496 Because I think it's a more complicated 1399 04:00:09,520 --> 04:00:10,900 messier picture than that. 1400 04:00:24,141 --> 04:00:26,900 "Return of the Living Dead: Part II". 1401 04:00:28,072 --> 04:00:30,910 Just when you thought it was safe to be dead. 1402 04:00:30,934 --> 04:00:33,462 I love a good zany horror movie. 1403 04:00:33,486 --> 04:00:35,772 Zombie content right now is very serious. 1404 04:00:35,796 --> 04:00:38,358 It's all about society and humanity, 1405 04:00:38,382 --> 04:00:39,876 and what does humanity mean. 1406 04:00:39,900 --> 04:00:41,565 This movie, it's fun to watch zombies 1407 04:00:41,589 --> 04:00:44,348 just be ridiculous. 1408 04:00:48,106 --> 04:00:48,911 "Return of the Living Dead: Part 1" 1409 04:00:48,935 --> 04:00:50,772 is truly a dark comedy. 1410 04:00:50,796 --> 04:00:52,324 You're laughing at the situations 1411 04:00:52,348 --> 04:00:54,151 the kids get themselves into, 1412 04:00:54,175 --> 04:00:57,382 and "Part II" kind of went for the jokes. 1413 04:01:01,900 --> 04:01:04,082 It's less of a sequel, and more just kind of 1414 04:01:04,106 --> 04:01:06,220 a goofier remake of the first one. 1415 04:01:06,244 --> 04:01:08,634 "Return of the Living Dead II" shows that 1416 04:01:08,658 --> 04:01:10,669 even if you die in the first movie, 1417 04:01:10,793 --> 04:01:12,762 you can still come back for the sequel. 1418 04:01:16,000 --> 04:01:17,872 Not bad. 1419 04:01:17,896 --> 04:01:19,976 Nice bit of rump in her time, huh? 1420 04:01:20,000 --> 04:01:22,838 James Karen and Tom Matthews from the first movie 1421 04:01:22,862 --> 04:01:24,217 come back for this one. 1422 04:01:24,241 --> 04:01:26,665 They're kind of filling the same role, 1423 04:01:26,689 --> 04:01:29,217 and basically have the same arc as the first one, 1424 04:01:29,241 --> 04:01:33,044 so they sort of are playing the same characters. 1425 04:01:33,068 --> 04:01:35,217 We've been here before! 1426 04:01:35,241 --> 04:01:38,148 It's like a dream, this whole thing! 1427 04:01:38,172 --> 04:01:39,172 You, me! 1428 04:01:40,379 --> 04:01:41,700 "Return of the Living Dead" was a huge hit in Japan, 1429 04:01:41,724 --> 04:01:43,665 and they said if you can have Jimmy Karen 1430 04:01:43,689 --> 04:01:45,458 and Tom Matthews come back, we'd give you 1431 04:01:45,482 --> 04:01:46,700 a little bit more money. 1432 04:01:46,724 --> 04:01:48,562 So that's how Jimmy and I got involved 1433 04:01:48,586 --> 04:01:51,241 back in it again, was because of the Japanese. 1434 04:01:55,103 --> 04:01:57,251 Jimmy Karen, lot of people on the East Coast 1435 04:01:57,275 --> 04:01:58,872 call him the Pathmark man. 1436 04:01:58,896 --> 04:02:01,251 March rolls in with hundreds of price reductions 1437 04:02:01,275 --> 04:02:02,700 in this new Pathmark circular. 1438 04:02:02,724 --> 04:02:04,941 So he would give weekly specials every week 1439 04:02:04,965 --> 04:02:06,286 for 30 years. 1440 04:02:06,310 --> 04:02:08,320 24 hours a day, you'll save 1441 04:02:08,344 --> 04:02:10,458 with one stop shopping at Pathmark. 1442 04:02:10,482 --> 04:02:12,251 He was so infectious on the set. 1443 04:02:12,275 --> 04:02:13,931 Raised everybody's game up. 1444 04:02:18,793 --> 04:02:21,355 You laugh at the situations we get ourselves into. 1445 04:02:21,379 --> 04:02:24,700 You can't believe the shit that's going on. 1446 04:02:24,724 --> 04:02:26,286 Are you fucking kidding? 1447 04:02:26,310 --> 04:02:27,665 That's insane. 1448 04:02:27,689 --> 04:02:29,148 That's what you're responding to. 1449 04:02:29,172 --> 04:02:30,976 We're acting it for real, man. 1450 04:02:31,000 --> 04:02:32,148 It's the dead! 1451 04:02:32,172 --> 04:02:32,977 They've come back to life! 1452 04:02:33,001 --> 04:02:34,010 The dead? 1453 04:02:34,034 --> 04:02:34,873 Dead, dead what? 1454 04:02:34,897 --> 04:02:35,976 People! 1455 04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:37,251 We need your car! 1456 04:02:37,275 --> 04:02:38,562 Well it sounds to me like you need a hearse. 1457 04:02:38,586 --> 04:02:40,320 I had an issue with Jimmy Karen 1458 04:02:40,344 --> 04:02:41,838 eating brains, actually, 1459 04:02:41,862 --> 04:02:43,562 because the director wanted me to eat frickin' brains, 1460 04:02:43,586 --> 04:02:47,251 and I was like, that was just so over the line, I thought. 1461 04:02:47,275 --> 04:02:50,286 I got really upset about that on the set. 1462 04:02:50,310 --> 04:02:52,310 I had issues with him, Ken Wiederhorn. 1463 04:02:56,793 --> 04:02:59,251 It's like he lost a bet and had to do the movie. 1464 04:02:59,275 --> 04:03:01,286 Hemdale made him do it to do other movies 1465 04:03:01,310 --> 04:03:02,838 that he wanted to do. 1466 04:03:02,862 --> 04:03:07,862 It's a sad story of Ken Wiederhorn and his career. 1467 04:03:09,034 --> 04:03:11,079 He came right out of the gate with "Shock Waves", 1468 04:03:11,103 --> 04:03:12,596 he had "Dark Tower" that he wrote 1469 04:03:12,620 --> 04:03:14,389 that was completely butchered. 1470 04:03:14,413 --> 04:03:17,320 "Meatballs II" was never a "Meatballs" movie. 1471 04:03:17,344 --> 04:03:18,769 It was a movie that he made, 1472 04:03:18,793 --> 04:03:20,976 and the company was like, we need a sequel. 1473 04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:21,908 And they retitled it. 1474 04:03:21,932 --> 04:03:23,182 And this happens again. 1475 04:03:23,206 --> 04:03:25,148 I mean, Ken has the script, 1476 04:03:25,172 --> 04:03:27,217 and it's not really a zombie comedy, 1477 04:03:27,241 --> 04:03:29,896 but they want to make a "Return of the Living Dead II". 1478 04:03:35,000 --> 04:03:36,872 He just really wasn't interested 1479 04:03:36,896 --> 04:03:38,517 in doing the movie, but he did it 1480 04:03:40,862 --> 04:03:41,862 Oh, fuck this! 1481 04:03:46,344 --> 04:03:48,803 The strengths of "Part II" that people really enjoy, 1482 04:03:48,827 --> 04:03:52,010 I think the fact that the main character was a kid, 1483 04:03:52,034 --> 04:03:56,103 so they have an emotional connection to the movie. 1484 04:03:57,965 --> 04:03:58,965 Brains! 1485 04:03:59,758 --> 04:04:01,010 I've never heard anyone say 1486 04:04:01,034 --> 04:04:02,976 that they've hated "Part II", 1487 04:04:03,000 --> 04:04:05,907 except for me. 1488 04:04:05,931 --> 04:04:08,034 This is big fucking trouble! 1489 04:04:10,034 --> 04:04:11,758 I've changed my mind since then. 1490 04:04:26,275 --> 04:04:29,458 You've got to give the devil his due! 1491 04:04:29,482 --> 04:04:30,976 "Sorority Babes". 1492 04:04:31,000 --> 04:04:33,320 "Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama" 1493 04:04:33,344 --> 04:04:36,665 is about these kids that think, okay, 1494 04:04:36,689 --> 04:04:40,527 we're gonna break into a mall, in the bowling alley, 1495 04:04:40,751 --> 04:04:42,934 and steal a trophy. 1496 04:04:42,958 --> 04:04:44,658 Come on, man! 1497 04:04:44,782 --> 04:04:45,587 I'm working on it. 1498 04:04:45,711 --> 04:04:47,468 Will you cool your jets? 1499 04:04:49,744 --> 04:04:51,238 Things turn out really bad, 1500 04:04:51,262 --> 04:04:53,548 because they awaken this imp. 1501 04:04:53,572 --> 04:04:55,203 Such a sour face! 1502 04:04:55,227 --> 04:04:57,238 Stop it, you little prick! 1503 04:04:57,262 --> 04:04:59,720 Very funny imp, but very menacing, 1504 04:04:59,744 --> 04:05:01,606 and does bad things. 1505 04:05:03,055 --> 04:05:04,032 Have a nice trip! 1506 04:05:04,056 --> 04:05:05,617 See you next fall! 1507 04:05:05,641 --> 04:05:08,065 I crack me up! 1508 04:05:08,089 --> 04:05:10,376 It's that story of the monkey's paw. 1509 04:05:10,400 --> 04:05:11,893 Be careful what you wish for. 1510 04:05:11,917 --> 04:05:12,790 Gold! 1511 04:05:12,814 --> 04:05:13,858 Lots of it! 1512 04:05:13,882 --> 04:05:15,789 Then gold it is! 1513 04:05:15,813 --> 04:05:16,996 This isn't gold! 1514 04:05:17,020 --> 04:05:18,272 These people make these wishes, 1515 04:05:18,296 --> 04:05:21,307 and they go so bad, it's not even funny. 1516 04:05:21,331 --> 04:05:23,996 Oh perfect form! 1517 04:05:24,020 --> 04:05:25,307 Lovely form! 1518 04:05:25,331 --> 04:05:28,341 Now I come along, and my name is Spider in it, 1519 04:05:28,365 --> 04:05:30,951 and I save the day. 1520 04:05:35,262 --> 04:05:37,582 When I got the script, it wasn't called 1521 04:05:37,606 --> 04:05:39,651 "Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl O' Rama", 1522 04:05:39,675 --> 04:05:40,893 it was called "The Imp". 1523 04:05:40,917 --> 04:05:43,203 We had no idea what the imp would be like. 1524 04:05:43,227 --> 04:05:44,651 We didn't know what it would sound like, 1525 04:05:44,675 --> 04:05:45,962 we didn't know what it would look like, 1526 04:05:45,986 --> 04:05:47,479 because no one was there. 1527 04:05:47,503 --> 04:05:49,962 We just had to pretend we were looking at something. 1528 04:05:49,986 --> 04:05:52,169 We had no idea it would be a funny voice. 1529 04:05:52,193 --> 04:05:54,031 Uncle Imp is gonna get ya! 1530 04:05:54,055 --> 04:05:55,227 Fun, fun, fun! 1531 04:05:56,434 --> 04:05:58,479 Dukey Flyswatter was in a band 1532 04:05:58,503 --> 04:06:00,065 called The Haunted Garage. 1533 04:06:00,089 --> 04:06:03,444 He was a great guy and everything, to work with. 1534 04:06:03,468 --> 04:06:06,434 No, that's his real name. 1535 04:06:07,641 --> 04:06:08,893 I don't know what his real name is. 1536 04:06:08,917 --> 04:06:11,927 It's probably Howard, or something like that. 1537 04:06:11,951 --> 04:06:15,331 Would I lie to you? 1538 04:06:21,296 --> 04:06:23,858 "The Serpent and the Rainbow". 1539 04:06:23,882 --> 04:06:26,789 When I think of the movies that Wes Craven created 1540 04:06:26,813 --> 04:06:30,376 that really moved me and challenged me as a viewer, 1541 04:06:30,400 --> 04:06:33,203 "Serpent and the Rainbow" is definitely at the top 1542 04:06:33,227 --> 04:06:34,434 of that list. 1543 04:06:38,020 --> 04:06:39,513 I love "The Serpent and the Rainbow". 1544 04:06:39,537 --> 04:06:43,376 They have this dust that you can put into people's faces 1545 04:06:43,400 --> 04:06:44,893 and they become a zombie. 1546 04:06:44,917 --> 04:06:48,813 So you could bury them, they could come alive again. 1547 04:06:50,020 --> 04:06:53,376 It is Wes Craven's take on the zombie film. 1548 04:06:53,400 --> 04:06:55,789 Everybody was kind of trying to chase 1549 04:06:55,813 --> 04:06:58,744 what George Romero did with "Night of the Living Dead". 1550 04:06:59,882 --> 04:07:01,376 It wasn't until "Night of the Living Dead" 1551 04:07:01,400 --> 04:07:04,651 that people even started talking about ghouls as zombies. 1552 04:07:04,675 --> 04:07:06,031 Zombies were Caribbean. 1553 04:07:06,055 --> 04:07:08,169 Zombies were in "I Walked With a Zombie", 1554 04:07:08,193 --> 04:07:09,479 you know, "White Zombie". 1555 04:07:09,503 --> 04:07:11,100 That was kind of zombies. 1556 04:07:11,124 --> 04:07:14,789 But now, zombie became synonymous with living dead people. 1557 04:07:14,813 --> 04:07:17,720 The whole meaning of the word got screwed up. 1558 04:07:17,744 --> 04:07:20,031 Wes Craven is inviting us 1559 04:07:20,055 --> 04:07:22,858 to learn the history of these monsters 1560 04:07:22,882 --> 04:07:24,548 that we're fascinated with. 1561 04:07:24,572 --> 04:07:26,548 This comes from him being an academic. 1562 04:07:26,572 --> 04:07:30,238 He goes back to the root of the zombie, 1563 04:07:30,262 --> 04:07:32,376 and he goes back to Haitian folklore. 1564 04:07:32,400 --> 04:07:36,376 It's very much about the idea of wealthy white people 1565 04:07:36,400 --> 04:07:38,996 trying to steal cultural heritage 1566 04:07:39,020 --> 04:07:40,548 away from Haitians. 1567 04:07:40,572 --> 04:07:41,824 Now, if you don't like the word zombie, 1568 04:07:41,848 --> 04:07:43,272 you can choose another word, 1569 04:07:43,296 --> 04:07:44,927 but the fact is, somebody brought him 1570 04:07:44,951 --> 04:07:46,617 back from the grave, and I want to know 1571 04:07:46,641 --> 04:07:47,996 how they did it. 1572 04:07:48,020 --> 04:07:50,272 They send Bill Pullman's character there 1573 04:07:50,296 --> 04:07:52,513 to find out what is the secret 1574 04:07:52,537 --> 04:07:54,651 to immortality, essentially. 1575 04:07:54,675 --> 04:07:58,617 He thinks that he understands these rituals, 1576 04:07:58,641 --> 04:08:00,651 and that he is above them, he is a man of science, 1577 04:08:00,675 --> 04:08:02,307 but then he discovers that he doesn't really 1578 04:08:02,331 --> 04:08:03,513 know it at all. 1579 04:08:03,537 --> 04:08:07,203 Whatever happens, death is not the end. 1580 04:08:07,227 --> 04:08:09,755 Wes Craven is a great, great director, 1581 04:08:09,779 --> 04:08:11,744 and comes up with great ideas. 1582 04:08:16,124 --> 04:08:17,651 Really fantastic effects in that movie. 1583 04:08:17,675 --> 04:08:19,720 Some of the camera tricks that they're able to do, 1584 04:08:19,744 --> 04:08:21,755 especially in the sequences with the coffin, 1585 04:08:21,779 --> 04:08:23,400 when it fills with blood. 1586 04:08:25,606 --> 04:08:26,813 It's just phenomenal. 1587 04:08:28,400 --> 04:08:30,789 The dream sequence with the zombie bride, 1588 04:08:30,813 --> 04:08:33,158 a snake comes out of her skull. 1589 04:08:34,365 --> 04:08:36,548 I mean, that is incredible imagery. 1590 04:08:36,572 --> 04:08:38,641 You dreamt of me and of the grave. 1591 04:08:40,089 --> 04:08:41,548 I know because I was there. 1592 04:08:41,572 --> 04:08:46,124 Zakes Mokae in that movie is absolutely terrifying. 1593 04:08:48,572 --> 04:08:50,755 Bill Pullman really, he had to put up 1594 04:08:50,779 --> 04:08:52,858 with a lot for that movie. 1595 04:08:52,882 --> 04:08:56,238 I want to hear you scream. 1596 04:08:56,262 --> 04:08:59,238 Where he's basically in a chair, nude, 1597 04:08:59,262 --> 04:09:02,124 and a nine inch nail that changes a lot. 1598 04:09:08,710 --> 04:09:11,203 You see it once, you're never gonna forget that moment. 1599 04:09:11,227 --> 04:09:12,434 And get out! 1600 04:09:13,675 --> 04:09:16,169 "The Serpent and the Rainbow" feels the most 1601 04:09:16,193 --> 04:09:18,824 like who Wes Craven was as a person to me, 1602 04:09:18,848 --> 04:09:22,444 because he is interrogating the way 1603 04:09:22,468 --> 04:09:26,376 that our society functions, and our fear of death, 1604 04:09:26,400 --> 04:09:28,927 because I think ultimately, a fear of death 1605 04:09:28,951 --> 04:09:32,434 in this film is a fear of losing power and influence. 1606 04:09:33,503 --> 04:09:38,031 He has always reinvented horror 1607 04:09:38,055 --> 04:09:42,617 as a means to teach us either about ourselves, 1608 04:09:42,641 --> 04:09:46,686 broader society, or about the sins of America, 1609 04:09:46,710 --> 04:09:50,779 the way we extort other cultures for our own gain. 1610 04:09:52,882 --> 04:09:55,376 Don't let them bury me. 1611 04:09:55,400 --> 04:09:56,813 I'm not dead! 1612 04:10:03,434 --> 04:10:06,686 When I really think about all of my memories 1613 04:10:06,710 --> 04:10:08,548 on the set of "Sleepaway Camp", 1614 04:10:08,572 --> 04:10:10,582 we were just one big family. 1615 04:10:10,606 --> 04:10:13,065 One of the most magical times of my life. 1616 04:10:13,089 --> 04:10:18,055 I was a 13-year-old making this fun movie. 1617 04:10:20,400 --> 04:10:22,548 Spoiler alert, I mean the first penis I saw 1618 04:10:22,572 --> 04:10:24,100 was my own penis, you know? 1619 04:10:24,124 --> 04:10:27,744 It was like, this was a movie like none other. 1620 04:10:32,434 --> 04:10:35,513 Once you find out what the ending is, 1621 04:10:35,537 --> 04:10:39,031 you start to understand the deeper meaning. 1622 04:10:39,055 --> 04:10:40,479 And there's a lot going on. 1623 04:10:40,503 --> 04:10:44,513 Your gender identification, your sexual orientation. 1624 04:10:44,537 --> 04:10:46,272 It was never intended to have 1625 04:10:46,296 --> 04:10:49,238 any kind of negative connotation 1626 04:10:49,262 --> 04:10:52,376 on any aspect of life. 1627 04:10:52,400 --> 04:10:53,744 Goodnight, campers. 1628 04:10:54,986 --> 04:10:56,720 "Sleepaway Camp 2". 1629 04:10:56,744 --> 04:10:59,789 Michael Simpson called about portraying Angela 1630 04:10:59,813 --> 04:11:01,582 possibly in Parts 2 and 3. 1631 04:11:01,606 --> 04:11:02,927 It was the late 80s. 1632 04:11:02,951 --> 04:11:04,376 We were seeing more comedy. 1633 04:11:04,400 --> 04:11:08,296 And I just didn't take very well to that character. 1634 04:11:10,158 --> 04:11:11,238 Wake up, everybody! 1635 04:11:11,262 --> 04:11:12,582 Breakfast in half an hour! 1636 04:11:12,606 --> 04:11:13,755 I put it on hold. 1637 04:11:13,779 --> 04:11:15,848 I'm young, let me go to school. 1638 04:11:17,572 --> 04:11:20,376 Robert Hiltzik made this movie, and it was great. 1639 04:11:20,400 --> 04:11:22,720 So when Robert wrote the sequel, 1640 04:11:22,744 --> 04:11:26,513 he continued that dark movie that was made, 1641 04:11:26,637 --> 04:11:28,717 and the producers were like, nah. 1642 04:11:28,841 --> 04:11:31,334 We want to really play into Angela. 1643 04:11:31,458 --> 04:11:33,813 Fritz Gordon is actually Michael Hitchcock, 1644 04:11:33,837 --> 04:11:35,193 who wrote Glee. 1645 04:11:35,217 --> 04:11:37,469 He was brought in to write the horror comedy. 1646 04:11:37,493 --> 04:11:39,158 There's lots of good kids. 1647 04:11:39,182 --> 04:11:41,193 We just have to weed out the bad. 1648 04:11:41,217 --> 04:11:42,779 But it's mainly one liners, 1649 04:11:42,803 --> 04:11:44,641 and just kind of Pamela Springsteen 1650 04:11:44,665 --> 04:11:46,641 taking this Angela character, 1651 04:11:46,665 --> 04:11:50,124 and just amplifying it so much. 1652 04:11:50,148 --> 04:11:52,044 Say no to drugs. 1653 04:11:55,872 --> 04:11:58,538 She brought so much energy. 1654 04:11:58,562 --> 04:12:00,951 That was an Angela that was fun. 1655 04:12:00,975 --> 04:12:02,148 You talk too much. 1656 04:12:05,320 --> 04:12:09,124 Also, them playing with the transgender character, 1657 04:12:09,148 --> 04:12:13,779 fully a woman, has completely undergone everything. 1658 04:12:13,803 --> 04:12:15,469 A surgery and all. 1659 04:12:15,493 --> 04:12:18,365 You're Angela Baker, the angel of death! 1660 04:12:18,389 --> 04:12:20,020 They should have called you Peter! 1661 04:12:20,044 --> 04:12:22,331 My name is Angela Johnson. 1662 04:12:22,355 --> 04:12:24,055 A Bruce Springsteen sister. 1663 04:12:24,079 --> 04:12:25,365 She kept it secret. 1664 04:12:25,389 --> 04:12:26,366 She wanted to be an actress, 1665 04:12:26,390 --> 04:12:27,607 but I guess it wasn't for her. 1666 04:12:27,631 --> 04:12:29,527 She ended up doing photography instead. 1667 04:12:30,768 --> 04:12:33,744 Some of Bruce Springsteen's album covers 1668 04:12:33,768 --> 04:12:37,331 is Pamela Springsteen's photographs. 1669 04:12:37,355 --> 04:12:39,262 I was once a camper myself. 1670 04:12:39,286 --> 04:12:41,158 She's the boss' sister. 1671 04:12:41,182 --> 04:12:42,906 She was born cool. 1672 04:12:44,803 --> 04:12:47,158 Angela is killing because she's bullied. 1673 04:12:47,182 --> 04:12:49,641 She's weeding out all the bad kids, 1674 04:12:49,665 --> 04:12:51,020 and she's on top of it, 1675 04:12:51,044 --> 04:12:53,400 and she doesn't care what anyone thinks. 1676 04:12:53,424 --> 04:12:54,700 Please, don't! 1677 04:12:57,320 --> 04:12:58,503 Sorry! 1678 04:12:58,527 --> 04:13:00,676 Once I start a task, I always finish. 1679 04:13:00,700 --> 04:13:02,848 It has some kind of cruel deaths, 1680 04:13:02,872 --> 04:13:05,527 like shoving somebody down a Porta Potty. 1681 04:13:06,355 --> 04:13:07,355 What's down there? 1682 04:13:08,975 --> 04:13:10,607 The leeches attached to her face, 1683 04:13:10,631 --> 04:13:12,917 she's obviously covered in poop and pee, 1684 04:13:12,941 --> 04:13:14,538 and it's just like, ugh. 1685 04:13:14,562 --> 04:13:16,986 What a horrible way to die. 1686 04:13:17,010 --> 04:13:18,641 I love that outhouse scene. 1687 04:13:18,665 --> 04:13:20,424 That was disgusting! 1688 04:13:22,320 --> 04:13:24,365 It's a perfect, perfect, perfect blend 1689 04:13:24,389 --> 04:13:26,365 of horror and comedy. 1690 04:13:26,389 --> 04:13:27,676 A lot of people say "Part 2" 's my favorite, 1691 04:13:27,700 --> 04:13:29,320 and I think that's fantastic. 1692 04:13:31,941 --> 04:13:34,951 I do wish I had played those roles. 1693 04:13:34,975 --> 04:13:36,227 I do. 1694 04:13:36,251 --> 04:13:38,020 I always say I have no regrets in life. 1695 04:13:38,044 --> 04:13:38,849 None. 1696 04:13:38,873 --> 04:13:40,882 But I do regret that. 1697 04:13:40,906 --> 04:13:42,837 Even if you're sad, you gotta eat. 1698 04:13:43,975 --> 04:13:45,607 Isn't that right, Leah? 1699 04:13:45,631 --> 04:13:47,503 Just would have been super cool 1700 04:13:47,527 --> 04:13:50,503 to feel like I had done the entire franchise. 1701 04:13:50,527 --> 04:13:52,607 I think the series is empowering. 1702 04:13:52,631 --> 04:13:54,434 I've watched it over 40 years 1703 04:13:54,458 --> 04:13:56,607 grow into this, you know, 1704 04:13:56,631 --> 04:13:58,744 it has a life of its own. 1705 04:13:58,768 --> 04:14:01,365 "Sleepaway Camp" is so interesting to me. 1706 04:14:01,389 --> 04:14:03,607 I still have so many questions. 1707 04:14:03,631 --> 04:14:05,458 I'm completely cured. 1708 04:14:07,251 --> 04:14:09,941 If I wasn't, they wouldn't have let me out. 1709 04:14:19,562 --> 04:14:21,813 "Don't Panic" really feels like it was 1710 04:14:21,837 --> 04:14:23,813 made by a fan for fans. 1711 04:14:23,837 --> 04:14:24,676 One! 1712 04:14:24,700 --> 04:14:25,700 Two! 1713 04:14:26,872 --> 04:14:28,424 Three! 1714 04:14:32,975 --> 04:14:36,434 This 17-year-old boy has a party 1715 04:14:36,458 --> 04:14:39,331 where his friends surprise him with the Ouija board. 1716 04:14:39,355 --> 04:14:42,365 And if you thought this movie was about the Ouija board, 1717 04:14:42,389 --> 04:14:43,837 oh you thought wrong. 1718 04:14:49,493 --> 04:14:52,296 In Spanish, "Don't Panic" was called 1719 04:14:52,320 --> 04:14:56,365 "Dimensiones Ocultas", which means occult dimensions. 1720 04:14:56,389 --> 04:14:59,744 At that time, the only way was to shoot in English, 1721 04:14:59,768 --> 04:15:01,941 sell it in the international markets. 1722 04:15:03,596 --> 04:15:07,951 We tried to hire actors that were English fluent, 1723 04:15:07,975 --> 04:15:09,941 and that had an international look. 1724 04:15:14,975 --> 04:15:16,779 Let's look at the character Michael. 1725 04:15:16,803 --> 04:15:18,469 That's what I call a pullet. 1726 04:15:18,493 --> 04:15:20,951 You have a perm on your mullet. 1727 04:15:20,975 --> 04:15:25,538 And you're wearing dinosaur pajamas at 17 years old. 1728 04:15:25,562 --> 04:15:26,365 They're after me. 1729 04:15:26,389 --> 04:15:27,263 They're gonna get me. 1730 04:15:27,287 --> 04:15:28,641 Don't worry, baby. 1731 04:15:28,665 --> 04:15:30,320 I won't let anybody hurt you. 1732 04:15:31,458 --> 04:15:34,158 I always get questions about those pajamas. 1733 04:15:34,182 --> 04:15:36,641 They seem to be the most memorable aspect 1734 04:15:36,665 --> 04:15:38,951 of "Don't Panic". 1735 04:15:38,975 --> 04:15:40,400 Michael. 1736 04:15:40,424 --> 04:15:43,055 This time you have to stop him. 1737 04:15:43,079 --> 04:15:44,676 Don't fail. 1738 04:15:44,700 --> 04:15:46,124 What the fuck? 1739 04:15:46,148 --> 04:15:50,331 It almost felt like a medically induced dream fever. 1740 04:15:50,355 --> 04:15:52,182 It was just so out there. 1741 04:15:53,182 --> 04:15:54,182 Hurry! 1742 04:15:57,320 --> 04:16:00,124 Do you believe in Satan? 1743 04:16:00,148 --> 04:16:02,503 Roberto Palazuelos is playing 1744 04:16:02,527 --> 04:16:05,538 the character of a tough bully guy. 1745 04:16:05,562 --> 04:16:08,744 He goes inside the car, sticks his head out 1746 04:16:08,768 --> 04:16:10,286 from the window. 1747 04:16:13,113 --> 04:16:15,779 What Screaming Mad George did for us, 1748 04:16:15,803 --> 04:16:17,986 he made a piece of prosthetic, 1749 04:16:18,010 --> 04:16:21,503 like a retractable knife inside the mouth. 1750 04:16:21,527 --> 04:16:23,572 And then when he opened his mouth, 1751 04:16:23,596 --> 04:16:25,331 you could see the blade pop, 1752 04:16:25,355 --> 04:16:27,124 and the blood come out of the mouth. 1753 04:16:27,148 --> 04:16:29,113 I think it was a very good kill. 1754 04:16:33,113 --> 04:16:35,365 It really became a success 1755 04:16:35,389 --> 04:16:37,400 when video came out. 1756 04:16:37,424 --> 04:16:39,779 And then we started getting requests 1757 04:16:39,803 --> 04:16:41,193 from all the world. 1758 04:16:41,217 --> 04:16:45,837 We sold it in United Kingdom, Japan, China, Germany. 1759 04:16:46,700 --> 04:16:47,608 I've gotta save Christie! 1760 04:16:47,632 --> 04:16:48,803 Please listen to me! 1761 04:16:51,665 --> 04:16:55,641 It scared the shit out of the audience. 1762 04:16:55,665 --> 04:16:58,744 You want to play games? 1763 04:16:58,768 --> 04:16:59,768 Good. 1764 04:17:00,700 --> 04:17:01,734 I like games. 1765 04:17:08,734 --> 04:17:11,010 Say your prayers. 1766 04:17:13,320 --> 04:17:14,917 "Lady in White". 1767 04:17:14,941 --> 04:17:18,262 "Lady in White" is a particularly strong example 1768 04:17:18,286 --> 04:17:19,676 of gateway horror. 1769 04:17:19,700 --> 04:17:22,744 That was one of the scariest movies I saw as a kid, 1770 04:17:22,768 --> 04:17:26,124 because it's dealing with very, very dark material, 1771 04:17:26,148 --> 04:17:28,607 and it's stuff that could happen in real life. 1772 04:17:28,631 --> 04:17:31,572 The titular lady in white is a ghost, 1773 04:17:31,596 --> 04:17:33,986 but what this movie is really about 1774 04:17:34,010 --> 04:17:36,355 is a child killer. 1775 04:17:38,286 --> 04:17:40,676 It was seven years between "Fear No Evil" 1776 04:17:40,700 --> 04:17:42,538 and "Lady in White" before I got back 1777 04:17:42,562 --> 04:17:43,779 behind the camera again. 1778 04:17:43,803 --> 04:17:45,538 It was a remarkable experience, 1779 04:17:45,562 --> 04:17:48,744 such a far cry from "Fear No Evil". 1780 04:17:48,768 --> 04:17:50,676 What I wanted to do this time 1781 04:17:50,700 --> 04:17:52,400 was really try to make something 1782 04:17:52,424 --> 04:17:55,089 that was personal on an autobiographical level. 1783 04:17:55,113 --> 04:17:58,296 A beautiful story about what it was like 1784 04:17:58,320 --> 04:17:59,572 growing up in that era, 1785 04:17:59,596 --> 04:18:03,469 and combine it with this ghost story, 1786 04:18:03,493 --> 04:18:05,227 that drives it thematically, 1787 04:18:05,251 --> 04:18:08,079 and perhaps more so commercially. 1788 04:18:14,010 --> 04:18:16,607 It's like the most cinematic version of Halloween 1789 04:18:16,631 --> 04:18:17,744 that you can have. 1790 04:18:17,768 --> 04:18:19,227 It smells like Halloween, 1791 04:18:19,251 --> 04:18:22,572 like you watch that movie, and it tastes like candy corn. 1792 04:18:22,596 --> 04:18:23,882 The seasonal feel. 1793 04:18:23,906 --> 04:18:25,434 We began during the fall, 1794 04:18:25,458 --> 04:18:28,055 and the moved into the winter months. 1795 04:18:28,079 --> 04:18:30,848 I wanted a contrast between the darkness 1796 04:18:30,872 --> 04:18:33,262 that was going to happen in the film, 1797 04:18:33,286 --> 04:18:36,389 and these beautiful bucolic moments. 1798 04:18:38,320 --> 04:18:39,572 Hey! 1799 04:18:39,596 --> 04:18:41,710 The first image that came to mind 1800 04:18:41,734 --> 04:18:44,572 for "Lady in White" was this image of Frankie 1801 04:18:44,596 --> 04:18:46,803 being locked in the cloakroom. 1802 04:18:49,079 --> 04:18:51,469 Comforted by their ancient voices, 1803 04:18:51,493 --> 04:18:53,434 and I began to dream. 1804 04:18:53,458 --> 04:18:56,158 Lukas Haas plays Frankie in this. 1805 04:18:56,182 --> 04:18:57,296 I'd seen him in "Witness", 1806 04:18:57,320 --> 04:18:58,676 I'd seen him in "Testament", 1807 04:18:58,700 --> 04:19:00,768 and I knew that this kid was extraordinary. 1808 04:19:01,975 --> 04:19:06,193 He had an innate ability to express his feelings. 1809 04:19:06,217 --> 04:19:08,331 That's what acting's all about. 1810 04:19:08,355 --> 04:19:12,124 Mom used to say sometimes when someone dies violent, 1811 04:19:12,148 --> 04:19:13,503 they can't rest in peace. 1812 04:19:13,527 --> 04:19:15,951 The story is as much about a time and place 1813 04:19:15,975 --> 04:19:17,951 as anything else. 1814 04:19:17,975 --> 04:19:19,676 A key character is a black man 1815 04:19:19,700 --> 04:19:22,400 who gets caught in the madness of what's happening, 1816 04:19:22,424 --> 04:19:24,676 what's going on in that town. 1817 04:19:24,700 --> 04:19:27,124 Dealing with issues of race, 1818 04:19:27,148 --> 04:19:28,779 particular as it relates to the lady, 1819 04:19:28,803 --> 04:19:30,779 what was going on in that era, 1820 04:19:30,803 --> 04:19:33,469 and being truthful as to how people spoke, 1821 04:19:33,493 --> 04:19:35,710 how they reacted, how they dealt 1822 04:19:35,734 --> 04:19:37,676 with each other between races. 1823 04:19:37,700 --> 04:19:39,710 I wanted nothing but the truth. 1824 04:19:39,734 --> 04:19:41,986 Harold Williams is a perfect scapegoat. 1825 04:19:42,010 --> 04:19:43,010 He's black. 1826 04:19:44,286 --> 04:19:47,124 When it comes to pure cinematic drive and force, 1827 04:19:47,248 --> 04:19:49,627 I think the climax works beautifully. 1828 04:19:51,413 --> 04:19:53,044 I think that theme of loss 1829 04:19:53,068 --> 04:19:54,286 and coming to terms with loss 1830 04:19:54,310 --> 04:19:57,251 and dealing with loss is universal. 1831 04:19:57,275 --> 04:20:00,182 My mommy's lost and I can't find her. 1832 04:20:00,206 --> 04:20:02,389 The "Lady in White", it fucked me up. 1833 04:20:02,613 --> 04:20:05,382 Seeing it as a kid, in a way that it just becomes 1834 04:20:05,406 --> 04:20:08,107 like embedded in you, and become a core memory. 1835 04:20:08,131 --> 04:20:10,451 10-year-old Melissa N. Montgomery 1836 04:20:10,475 --> 04:20:13,382 was the first victim believed to have been murdered. 1837 04:20:13,406 --> 04:20:15,520 I'm glad that people are still discovering 1838 04:20:15,544 --> 04:20:16,544 "Lady in White". 1839 04:20:21,441 --> 04:20:23,451 It continues to remain somewhat hidden. 1840 04:20:23,475 --> 04:20:24,796 It's fun for me. 1841 04:20:24,820 --> 04:20:26,555 I already told him. 1842 04:20:26,579 --> 04:20:29,200 Her mother is the lady in white. 1843 04:20:38,441 --> 04:20:39,993 I'm awake! 1844 04:20:41,510 --> 04:20:42,658 "Dream Demon". 1845 04:20:42,682 --> 04:20:44,762 The movie was about the fine line 1846 04:20:44,786 --> 04:20:47,107 between dreams and reality. 1847 04:20:47,131 --> 04:20:50,038 I think I'm awake, and then I keep waking up. 1848 04:20:50,062 --> 04:20:51,244 This is crazy. 1849 04:20:51,268 --> 04:20:52,520 You better call that doctor friend of yours. 1850 04:20:52,544 --> 04:20:54,693 My character was like a punk rock chick 1851 04:20:54,717 --> 04:20:57,382 connected to this English girl. 1852 04:20:57,406 --> 04:20:58,693 Wake up, Diana! 1853 04:20:58,717 --> 04:20:59,589 Come on! 1854 04:20:59,613 --> 04:21:00,383 Wake up! 1855 04:21:00,407 --> 04:21:01,969 Diana, please! 1856 04:21:01,993 --> 04:21:04,934 Ultimately we realized that through our dreams 1857 04:21:04,958 --> 04:21:08,003 and in our ability to crawl into our dreams, 1858 04:21:08,027 --> 04:21:10,786 I think that we ended up bonding. 1859 04:21:11,682 --> 04:21:12,487 Cheers. 1860 04:21:12,511 --> 04:21:13,624 Now wake up! 1861 04:21:13,648 --> 04:21:15,486 Come on, wake up! 1862 04:21:15,510 --> 04:21:16,349 Wake up! 1863 04:21:16,373 --> 04:21:17,589 Stop! 1864 04:21:17,613 --> 04:21:19,072 I loved working with Gemma Redgrave. 1865 04:21:19,096 --> 04:21:20,613 She was like my best friend. 1866 04:21:21,717 --> 04:21:23,107 No that's, no that's, that's very good. 1867 04:21:23,131 --> 04:21:24,958 That's really very good. 1868 04:21:26,131 --> 04:21:28,969 Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail. 1869 04:21:28,993 --> 04:21:30,900 I remember having good laughs with them. 1870 04:21:30,924 --> 04:21:32,348 Hey come on, leave her alone. 1871 04:21:32,372 --> 04:21:34,072 What do you think she is, dog meat? 1872 04:21:34,096 --> 04:21:34,970 Piss off, darling. 1873 04:21:34,994 --> 04:21:36,141 We're the press! 1874 04:21:36,165 --> 04:21:37,924 Oh yeah, well print this, dickhead! 1875 04:21:38,751 --> 04:21:39,751 It was an adventure, 1876 04:21:40,889 --> 04:21:44,372 some groundbreaking special effects. 1877 04:21:46,613 --> 04:21:49,038 All of these art director types 1878 04:21:49,062 --> 04:21:51,624 that got to really stretch out their creativity 1879 04:21:51,648 --> 04:21:55,165 and just be as gross as possible. 1880 04:21:57,717 --> 04:21:59,486 So I'd be like, huh. 1881 04:21:59,510 --> 04:22:02,406 She's crawling through slime today. 1882 04:22:06,200 --> 04:22:08,072 The script was peculiar. 1883 04:22:08,096 --> 04:22:09,658 They had so many rewrites, 1884 04:22:09,682 --> 04:22:11,958 and the director was kind of a nut. 1885 04:22:13,372 --> 04:22:15,624 They wanted me to stand in front 1886 04:22:15,648 --> 04:22:17,969 of these six foot flames. 1887 04:22:17,993 --> 04:22:20,900 It's hot, right? 1888 04:22:20,924 --> 04:22:22,934 The director was like okay, you're gonna come in 1889 04:22:22,958 --> 04:22:24,934 in front of that flame, and I'm like, 1890 04:22:24,958 --> 04:22:27,762 how about this, fuck no I'm not gonna stand 1891 04:22:27,786 --> 04:22:30,072 in front of, and then he got really mad at me, 1892 04:22:30,096 --> 04:22:31,865 and I was like, I'm not standing in front of that. 1893 04:22:31,889 --> 04:22:32,969 That is dangerous. 1894 04:22:32,993 --> 04:22:34,072 Forget you. 1895 04:22:34,096 --> 04:22:35,520 You stand in front of it. 1896 04:22:35,544 --> 04:22:36,762 He's like, all right fine! 1897 04:22:36,786 --> 04:22:38,451 He stands in front of it, 1898 04:22:38,475 --> 04:22:40,958 and he singes the back of his hair. 1899 04:22:44,165 --> 04:22:47,003 I have not worked with Harley Cokeliss since. 1900 04:22:47,027 --> 04:22:50,958 I don't think I was his favorite actress. 1901 04:22:52,579 --> 04:22:53,693 Diana! 1902 04:22:53,717 --> 04:22:55,141 The most challenging aspect 1903 04:22:55,165 --> 04:22:56,451 of working on horror films, 1904 04:22:56,475 --> 04:22:58,762 it's me screaming and crying. 1905 04:22:58,786 --> 04:23:03,717 It's me bringing to life my own personal freaking fear, 1906 04:23:05,165 --> 04:23:06,796 so I guess bringing your own reality to the screen 1907 04:23:06,820 --> 04:23:08,693 is the trickiest bit. 1908 04:23:08,717 --> 04:23:10,107 But what a blast. 1909 04:23:10,131 --> 04:23:11,313 I'll do it any day of the week. 1910 04:23:11,337 --> 04:23:12,624 Pay me. 1911 04:23:12,648 --> 04:23:13,751 Where's my mark? 1912 04:23:18,786 --> 04:23:20,038 Anybody who thinks it's a good idea 1913 04:23:20,062 --> 04:23:22,072 to get shaved by a monkey 1914 04:23:22,096 --> 04:23:25,969 needs to reassess their life plan. 1915 04:23:25,993 --> 04:23:27,176 You're not gonna hurt me. 1916 04:23:27,200 --> 04:23:28,177 I'm part of you. 1917 04:23:28,201 --> 04:23:30,003 "Monkey Shines". 1918 04:23:30,027 --> 04:23:32,141 A leap into terror. 1919 04:23:32,165 --> 04:23:35,313 "Monkey Shines" is about a mind meld 1920 04:23:35,337 --> 04:23:39,244 between a man, who suffered a horrible injury, 1921 04:23:39,268 --> 04:23:42,486 and this monkey. 1922 04:23:42,510 --> 04:23:44,210 You're giving me a monkey? 1923 04:23:44,234 --> 04:23:45,900 How am I supposed to take care of it, Jeff? 1924 04:23:45,924 --> 04:23:47,796 The idea is that it's gonna take care of you. 1925 04:23:47,820 --> 04:23:50,176 He ends up becoming telepathic 1926 04:23:50,200 --> 04:23:52,624 with this monkey, and the monkey ends up 1927 04:23:52,648 --> 04:23:54,486 becoming kind of jealous of the people 1928 04:23:54,510 --> 04:23:56,900 that are close to our main dude. 1929 04:23:56,924 --> 04:23:58,165 Allan- 1930 04:24:01,682 --> 04:24:03,279 And the monkey starts to enact 1931 04:24:03,303 --> 04:24:07,176 a lot of the rage that the quadriplegic is experiencing, 1932 04:24:07,200 --> 04:24:09,855 and people start to be killed. 1933 04:24:14,648 --> 04:24:17,038 It sounds all very far-fetched, 1934 04:24:17,062 --> 04:24:18,934 but the way that Romero handles it 1935 04:24:18,958 --> 04:24:21,589 is completely expert, and a perfect example 1936 04:24:21,613 --> 04:24:23,900 of what a great filmmaker Romero was, 1937 04:24:23,924 --> 04:24:26,475 even out of the zone of zombies. 1938 04:24:27,820 --> 04:24:29,244 Yeah, yeah. 1939 04:24:29,268 --> 04:24:30,693 I made up a formulation based on human memory cells. 1940 04:24:30,717 --> 04:24:32,176 I've been injecting one of my monkeys. 1941 04:24:32,200 --> 04:24:34,176 George sets the tone. 1942 04:24:34,200 --> 04:24:35,486 Come on, give it right here. 1943 04:24:35,510 --> 04:24:36,613 Now, now. 1944 04:24:37,544 --> 04:24:38,452 - Thank you. - Good girl. 1945 04:24:38,476 --> 04:24:40,200 It was a fun set to be on. 1946 04:24:41,648 --> 04:24:42,865 Jason Beghe. 1947 04:24:42,889 --> 04:24:44,348 I liked Jason a lot. 1948 04:24:44,372 --> 04:24:46,141 He was a very intense guy. 1949 04:24:46,165 --> 04:24:47,279 Don't. 1950 04:24:47,303 --> 04:24:48,142 Do not. 1951 04:24:48,166 --> 04:24:49,406 Don't do it! 1952 04:24:50,579 --> 04:24:51,831 Goddam you, you- 1953 04:24:51,855 --> 04:24:53,624 I think it was a lot more pressure for him. 1954 04:24:53,648 --> 04:24:56,579 He was carrying that film, really. 1955 04:25:00,200 --> 04:25:01,313 I love monkeys! 1956 04:25:01,337 --> 04:25:02,865 Monkeys are awesome! 1957 04:25:02,889 --> 04:25:05,176 Well, not so much. 1958 04:25:05,200 --> 04:25:07,855 Kind of scary, really. 1959 04:25:09,062 --> 04:25:11,382 I really wanted to love the monkeys, 1960 04:25:11,406 --> 04:25:13,141 but truthfully, I had to really fake 1961 04:25:13,165 --> 04:25:14,555 not being scared. 1962 04:25:14,579 --> 04:25:16,210 Hey, company's here. 1963 04:25:16,234 --> 04:25:17,142 Come on. 1964 04:25:17,166 --> 04:25:18,658 They're very strong. 1965 04:25:18,682 --> 04:25:21,796 In the pivotal scene, monkey's trying to drug me 1966 04:25:21,820 --> 04:25:24,210 with this hypodermic needle. 1967 04:25:24,234 --> 04:25:26,993 I had to wrestle with the monkey. 1968 04:25:27,924 --> 04:25:29,382 And a lot of that was a puppet. 1969 04:25:29,406 --> 04:25:31,727 But there was one short time 1970 04:25:31,751 --> 04:25:33,658 where I was actually holding on 1971 04:25:33,682 --> 04:25:34,589 to a real monkey. 1972 04:25:34,613 --> 04:25:35,613 Ella, no! 1973 04:25:39,820 --> 04:25:41,693 I can't say I had a lot of affection for them. 1974 04:25:41,717 --> 04:25:43,096 But I faked it really well. 1975 04:25:44,372 --> 04:25:46,141 And we had that love scene 1976 04:25:46,165 --> 04:25:49,038 that was one of the more challenging scenes 1977 04:25:49,062 --> 04:25:50,337 I've ever had to do. 1978 04:25:51,475 --> 04:25:54,107 As a young boy, watching that sequence 1979 04:25:54,131 --> 04:25:57,003 and wondering about how this guy 1980 04:25:57,027 --> 04:25:59,969 was going to have an encounter with this woman 1981 04:25:59,993 --> 04:26:01,176 that we knew he liked, 1982 04:26:01,200 --> 04:26:03,348 and the way that happened, 1983 04:26:03,372 --> 04:26:05,176 the harness thing for his bed, 1984 04:26:05,200 --> 04:26:10,176 and this monkey's watching, like getting angry. 1985 04:26:10,200 --> 04:26:12,268 That movie's messed up, man. 1986 04:26:13,579 --> 04:26:14,693 We were in it together, 1987 04:26:14,717 --> 04:26:16,141 and we got through it. 1988 04:26:16,165 --> 04:26:17,658 I do believe we drank a little bit 1989 04:26:17,682 --> 04:26:20,658 of champagne during it to relax, 1990 04:26:20,682 --> 04:26:25,520 because it's so hard, these intimate scenes, you know? 1991 04:26:25,544 --> 04:26:26,993 With a crew. 1992 04:26:28,924 --> 04:26:31,658 It's a scene I'm actually pretty proud of. 1993 04:26:31,682 --> 04:26:33,382 "Monkey Shines" is George Romero's 1994 04:26:33,406 --> 04:26:34,865 first studio movie. 1995 04:26:34,889 --> 04:26:37,486 The movie was taken away from him and recut, 1996 04:26:37,510 --> 04:26:40,027 after he added things that they asked for. 1997 04:26:41,682 --> 04:26:43,589 The original ending was much darker, 1998 04:26:43,613 --> 04:26:45,313 and they hated that. 1999 04:26:45,337 --> 04:26:48,486 I wish we could see George's original vision. 2000 04:26:48,510 --> 04:26:50,900 It's what happens when you work for a studio. 2001 04:26:50,924 --> 04:26:52,210 The movie's not yours. 2002 04:26:52,234 --> 04:26:55,279 Even if it wasn't appreciated at the time, 2003 04:26:55,303 --> 04:26:57,831 I think anybody who appreciates George 2004 04:26:57,855 --> 04:27:00,486 is gonna take another look at any of his work. 2005 04:27:00,510 --> 04:27:02,200 It's an interesting story. 2006 04:27:03,579 --> 04:27:06,038 It has survived better than I would have thought 2007 04:27:06,062 --> 04:27:08,200 at the time, that's for sure. 2008 04:27:16,889 --> 04:27:18,176 "Black Roses". 2009 04:27:18,200 --> 04:27:22,176 The hottest band this side of hell. 2010 04:27:22,200 --> 04:27:24,176 A big heavy metal band is coming 2011 04:27:24,200 --> 04:27:26,003 to do a series of concerts, 2012 04:27:26,027 --> 04:27:29,176 and the parents in the town are very much against it, 2013 04:27:29,200 --> 04:27:31,820 because you know, rock and roll leads to the devil. 2014 04:27:32,958 --> 04:27:35,417 The fact that we had Julie Adams in the movie 2015 04:27:35,441 --> 04:27:37,520 was a thrill for all of us monster kids, 2016 04:27:37,544 --> 04:27:40,520 because she was in "The Creature from the Black Lagoon". 2017 04:27:40,544 --> 04:27:43,486 Their satanic music and subversive lyrics 2018 04:27:43,510 --> 04:27:47,003 threaten to undermine the very fabric of our society. 2019 04:27:47,027 --> 04:27:48,451 John Fasano. 2020 04:27:48,475 --> 04:27:50,648 We did four movies in four years. 2021 04:27:52,062 --> 04:27:55,520 John and I had known each other since elementary school. 2022 04:27:55,544 --> 04:27:57,210 And so now, here comes the biggest thing 2023 04:27:57,234 --> 04:28:00,486 to hit Mill Basin ever, and they try to stop it? 2024 04:28:00,510 --> 04:28:02,107 You call that good? 2025 04:28:02,131 --> 04:28:06,210 When the investors saw the first cut of the film, 2026 04:28:06,234 --> 04:28:08,727 they were like, it's a little short. 2027 04:28:08,751 --> 04:28:11,993 It needs more monsters, and more boobs. 2028 04:28:13,717 --> 04:28:16,831 So we shot these additional sequences. 2029 04:28:16,855 --> 04:28:20,406 I did do some special effects for the reshoot. 2030 04:28:21,682 --> 04:28:24,900 John wanted her hand to be starting to look 2031 04:28:24,924 --> 04:28:29,924 like it was changing, so I sculpted an appliance. 2032 04:28:31,337 --> 04:28:33,520 She's there, and she's sort of caressing herself like this, 2033 04:28:33,544 --> 04:28:37,372 and I'm just going like, nobody's looking at that hand. 2034 04:28:42,062 --> 04:28:44,717 Mike Maddi designed this creature. 2035 04:28:49,234 --> 04:28:50,934 It was like bald, and had these huge fangs, 2036 04:28:50,958 --> 04:28:54,303 and these long, sinewy arms, and talons. 2037 04:28:55,786 --> 04:28:59,717 And it took five of us to work that puppet. 2038 04:29:03,372 --> 04:29:04,796 It's definitely a major leap 2039 04:29:04,820 --> 04:29:07,279 from "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" in terms of the effects. 2040 04:29:07,303 --> 04:29:10,165 The record starts bubbling up. 2041 04:29:12,234 --> 04:29:13,762 What the fuck? 2042 04:29:13,786 --> 04:29:17,200 And then it becomes this creature that attacks him. 2043 04:29:21,889 --> 04:29:24,279 Probably the best effect in the movie, 2044 04:29:24,303 --> 04:29:28,934 listening to metal, and metal inviting in this monster. 2045 04:29:28,958 --> 04:29:32,096 It's clearly playing on satanic panic. 2046 04:29:36,303 --> 04:29:38,865 Maybe the parents in the PTA have a point, 2047 04:29:38,889 --> 04:29:41,141 and this is Satan music. 2048 04:29:41,165 --> 04:29:42,337 So that's kind of funny. 2049 04:29:43,337 --> 04:29:44,337 Let's make blood city! 2050 04:29:48,234 --> 04:29:50,589 "Black Roses", yeah the band actually are from hell. 2051 04:29:50,613 --> 04:29:52,210 What do you know? 2052 04:29:52,234 --> 04:29:53,475 We are the Black Roses. 2053 04:29:54,855 --> 04:29:57,279 The flowers of evil! 2054 04:29:57,303 --> 04:29:59,200 You have been chosen. 2055 04:30:08,096 --> 04:30:09,313 "The Brain". 2056 04:30:09,337 --> 04:30:10,520 What I love about that title 2057 04:30:10,544 --> 04:30:12,589 is that nobody would second guess 2058 04:30:12,613 --> 04:30:14,417 that a movie called "The Brain" 2059 04:30:14,441 --> 04:30:17,303 is about a brain that kills people. 2060 04:30:23,993 --> 04:30:27,451 The plot revolves around this evil scientist 2061 04:30:27,475 --> 04:30:29,589 played by David Gale, who you might remember 2062 04:30:29,613 --> 04:30:32,348 as the professor in "Re-Animator". 2063 04:30:32,372 --> 04:30:33,372 I will be famous! 2064 04:30:37,096 --> 04:30:40,727 He runs this TV show that brainwashes people, 2065 04:30:40,751 --> 04:30:42,762 and gains control of their minds 2066 04:30:42,786 --> 04:30:45,176 with the help of this weird brain monster, 2067 04:30:45,200 --> 04:30:47,693 and then there's this rebel high school student, 2068 04:30:47,717 --> 04:30:50,348 who's the only one who can resist the brain's 2069 04:30:50,372 --> 04:30:53,062 mind controlling power, and save the day. 2070 04:30:54,682 --> 04:30:55,900 You can go now. 2071 04:30:55,924 --> 04:30:57,210 What the hell happened to me? 2072 04:30:57,234 --> 04:31:00,038 But not without some horrific hallucinations. 2073 04:31:00,062 --> 04:31:02,210 The protagonist, he's driving the car, 2074 04:31:02,234 --> 04:31:05,624 and the brain is sort of taking over his mind. 2075 04:31:05,648 --> 04:31:07,176 I mean, could you imagine that? 2076 04:31:07,200 --> 04:31:08,382 If you're driving a car, 2077 04:31:08,406 --> 04:31:10,510 and then you just see a video wipe transition 2078 04:31:11,441 --> 04:31:12,924 turn into a brain? 2079 04:31:13,786 --> 04:31:15,200 Holy shit. 2080 04:31:21,093 --> 04:31:22,551 Look at that brain. 2081 04:31:22,675 --> 04:31:24,376 You can't tell how it moves around. 2082 04:31:24,500 --> 04:31:26,407 All you see is this enormous face 2083 04:31:26,431 --> 04:31:28,327 coming after people. 2084 04:31:30,844 --> 04:31:34,224 It's kind of scary, but it's also really funny. 2085 04:31:39,500 --> 04:31:40,717 That's food for thought. 2086 04:31:40,741 --> 04:31:42,338 I mean, you just look at that thing, 2087 04:31:42,362 --> 04:31:44,189 and you gotta love it. 2088 04:31:45,500 --> 04:31:47,820 So there's this toy and a cartoon in the 80s 2089 04:31:47,844 --> 04:31:49,441 called Madballs. 2090 04:31:49,465 --> 04:31:50,993 Madballs, Madballs! 2091 04:31:51,017 --> 04:31:52,924 Gross for one, gross for all! 2092 04:31:52,948 --> 04:31:54,544 We play with a Madball! 2093 04:31:54,568 --> 04:31:55,855 They're gross! 2094 04:31:55,879 --> 04:31:56,821 That's what the brain looks like. 2095 04:31:56,845 --> 04:31:59,465 It's a giant Madball attacking. 2096 04:32:12,120 --> 04:32:14,717 I worked in Madrid on a wonderful film 2097 04:32:14,741 --> 04:32:16,234 called "Howl of the Devil". 2098 04:32:16,258 --> 04:32:17,476 I love Spain. 2099 04:32:17,500 --> 04:32:18,579 I've done quite a bit of work in Spain 2100 04:32:18,603 --> 04:32:21,086 with Sinbad, and various things. 2101 04:32:25,500 --> 04:32:28,165 Paul Naschy, both directing and as an actor 2102 04:32:28,189 --> 04:32:29,097 in his own right. 2103 04:32:29,121 --> 04:32:31,327 He had such presence on camera. 2104 04:32:39,224 --> 04:32:42,431 Menacing presence, but he was very charismatic. 2105 04:32:50,327 --> 04:32:51,889 And I'd be speaking English to him, 2106 04:32:51,913 --> 04:32:54,431 and in post, they'd dub him. 2107 04:32:59,465 --> 04:33:01,372 The plot basically was this man, 2108 04:33:01,396 --> 04:33:03,993 by day, he was quite normal, head of the house, 2109 04:33:04,017 --> 04:33:06,407 and he had his lovely son, Sergio. 2110 04:33:06,431 --> 04:33:08,407 And I was the maid that came to clean up, 2111 04:33:08,431 --> 04:33:10,820 and look after the son, basically. 2112 04:33:10,844 --> 04:33:12,820 But then by night, he would change 2113 04:33:12,844 --> 04:33:14,993 into these wonderful characters. 2114 04:33:15,017 --> 04:33:18,717 He became Frankenstein, he became the wolf man. 2115 04:33:18,741 --> 04:33:20,775 These very strange characters. 2116 04:33:28,224 --> 04:33:30,200 Some of the sequences we had to do 2117 04:33:30,224 --> 04:33:32,820 the man with a great big chainsaw 2118 04:33:32,844 --> 04:33:34,682 that came running after us. 2119 04:33:34,706 --> 04:33:38,017 No! 2120 04:33:39,431 --> 04:33:40,648 Carmen. 2121 04:33:40,672 --> 04:33:42,303 I liked her, because she was very proud. 2122 04:33:42,327 --> 04:33:44,234 Quite a holy Catholic lady. 2123 04:33:44,258 --> 04:33:46,372 And then the priest, who was a lovely 2124 04:33:46,396 --> 04:33:47,948 sweet, sweet actor. 2125 04:33:50,948 --> 04:33:53,568 Was trying to molest her, to attack her. 2126 04:33:55,086 --> 04:33:56,751 It was quite an emotional scene, actually, for me. 2127 04:33:56,775 --> 04:33:58,751 And for him, because he was so upset. 2128 04:33:58,775 --> 04:34:00,544 He spoke English, he said I'm so sorry, 2129 04:34:00,568 --> 04:34:02,062 he says, so sorry. 2130 04:34:02,086 --> 04:34:04,362 Paul want me to do this, and I don't want to do it. 2131 04:34:05,500 --> 04:34:07,131 I said, we'll make it look as good as we can, 2132 04:34:07,155 --> 04:34:09,924 but I might push you and punch you a bit. 2133 04:34:09,948 --> 04:34:10,889 He said, that's okay. 2134 04:34:10,913 --> 04:34:11,718 He said, I don't mind. 2135 04:34:11,742 --> 04:34:13,269 You do what you do. 2136 04:34:13,293 --> 04:34:14,682 So then we went for it, 2137 04:34:14,706 --> 04:34:17,534 and I managed to get away from him, basically. 2138 04:34:22,879 --> 04:34:25,372 It felt like one of my better scenes, 2139 04:34:25,396 --> 04:34:28,579 because she was in a really state of distress before it, 2140 04:34:28,603 --> 04:34:30,579 and this exacerbated it, 2141 04:34:30,603 --> 04:34:32,568 made it far worse for her. 2142 04:34:37,327 --> 04:34:40,338 Paul was, to me, the king of Spanish cinema. 2143 04:34:40,362 --> 04:34:41,339 He absolutely was. 2144 04:34:41,363 --> 04:34:43,327 People loved him. 2145 04:34:57,741 --> 04:34:59,234 When we talk about genre, and we try to put things 2146 04:34:59,258 --> 04:35:01,786 in boxes, one of the ways we got in trouble very early 2147 04:35:01,910 --> 04:35:04,875 was we conflated a setting with a feeling. 2148 04:35:06,041 --> 04:35:07,672 Horror is an emotion. 2149 04:35:07,796 --> 04:35:10,151 So you can have a horror in space. 2150 04:35:10,175 --> 04:35:11,531 You can horror in the old west. 2151 04:35:11,555 --> 04:35:12,807 You can have horror in a comedy. 2152 04:35:13,231 --> 04:35:16,175 It looked like this! 2153 04:35:17,817 --> 04:35:19,827 Horror is about a feeling that you evoke 2154 04:35:19,851 --> 04:35:21,241 in your audience. 2155 04:35:21,265 --> 04:35:22,265 Lollipops! 2156 04:35:24,162 --> 04:35:27,379 And all free today! 2157 04:35:27,403 --> 04:35:29,379 Horror is a more flexible genre 2158 04:35:29,403 --> 04:35:32,344 than people realize, and oftentimes it can be found 2159 04:35:32,368 --> 04:35:35,379 hiding within other genres, nested in there, 2160 04:35:35,403 --> 04:35:37,541 waiting to strike at any moment. 2161 04:35:39,679 --> 04:35:41,448 Fear is always there. 2162 04:35:41,472 --> 04:35:44,000 It's just one decision, or one thought, 2163 04:35:44,024 --> 04:35:47,069 or one perspective away from being right in your face. 2164 04:35:47,093 --> 04:35:49,472 Any movie could suddenly become a horror movie. 2165 04:35:51,575 --> 04:35:52,724 You're dead. 2166 04:35:52,748 --> 04:35:54,517 Horror is catching you off guard, 2167 04:35:54,541 --> 04:35:56,931 and taking you off your axis somewhat. 2168 04:35:56,955 --> 04:35:57,955 No! 2169 04:36:04,610 --> 04:36:05,896 The horror has been a part of our lives, 2170 04:36:05,920 --> 04:36:07,138 new just didn't know it. 2171 04:36:07,162 --> 04:36:09,172 It was dressed up in fairy tales. 2172 04:36:09,196 --> 04:36:10,586 But it's always been a part of us, 2173 04:36:10,610 --> 04:36:12,862 because fear and darkness 2174 04:36:12,886 --> 04:36:14,379 is always a part of your life. 2175 04:36:14,403 --> 04:36:15,403 It's part of life. 2176 04:36:16,334 --> 04:36:18,034 Disney goes very dark. 2177 04:36:18,058 --> 04:36:19,931 "Pinocchio", for instance. 2178 04:36:19,955 --> 04:36:21,575 The Pleasure Island scene. 2179 04:36:22,817 --> 04:36:25,207 Bad little boys doing bad little things, 2180 04:36:25,231 --> 04:36:27,793 smoking cigars, gambling, 2181 04:36:27,817 --> 04:36:29,655 until they turn into donkeys, 2182 04:36:29,679 --> 04:36:31,138 because it's a cautionary tale. 2183 04:36:31,162 --> 04:36:33,793 They're doing the shit they're not supposed to be doing, 2184 04:36:33,817 --> 04:36:35,437 and they just start transforming. 2185 04:36:36,541 --> 04:36:37,886 What do I do? 2186 04:36:38,782 --> 04:36:39,827 "Willy Wonka". 2187 04:36:39,851 --> 04:36:42,000 Not a horror movie, per se. 2188 04:36:42,024 --> 04:36:43,689 Does it have horror elements? 2189 04:36:43,713 --> 04:36:45,793 Abso-fucking-lutely. 2190 04:36:45,817 --> 04:36:48,276 Round the world and home again! 2191 04:36:48,300 --> 04:36:50,172 That's the sailor's way! 2192 04:36:50,196 --> 04:36:53,172 The horrific nightmare boat sequence, 2193 04:36:53,196 --> 04:36:54,896 where he's just staring deadpan, 2194 04:36:54,920 --> 04:36:57,310 and starts singing that weird song. 2195 04:36:57,334 --> 04:37:00,310 ♪ There's no earthly way of knowing ♪ 2196 04:37:00,334 --> 04:37:01,758 He's singing. 2197 04:37:01,782 --> 04:37:03,724 And there's like, these horrible projection 2198 04:37:03,748 --> 04:37:05,093 that are happening. 2199 04:37:07,162 --> 04:37:09,344 As a child, I was sitting there watching this 2200 04:37:09,368 --> 04:37:11,586 thinking what the fuck is happening? 2201 04:37:11,610 --> 04:37:13,034 Now I am gonna be sick! 2202 04:37:13,058 --> 04:37:14,655 Never mind the fact that these children 2203 04:37:14,679 --> 04:37:16,758 are just getting offed, one by one. 2204 04:37:16,782 --> 04:37:18,679 It's kind of like a slasher movie. 2205 04:37:19,506 --> 04:37:20,931 She was a bad egg. 2206 04:37:20,955 --> 04:37:23,862 I seem to find horror in every film I see 2207 04:37:23,886 --> 04:37:25,782 at some point. 2208 04:37:27,127 --> 04:37:29,655 Any time you're writing interesting characters, 2209 04:37:29,679 --> 04:37:31,034 they're gonna have a dark side, 2210 04:37:31,058 --> 04:37:33,793 and so if you get some people with problems, 2211 04:37:33,817 --> 04:37:36,103 and issues, and anger, and stuff, 2212 04:37:36,127 --> 04:37:38,689 then you have a dangerous situation, 2213 04:37:38,713 --> 04:37:40,817 and that's scary. 2214 04:37:42,541 --> 04:37:44,344 We might not call "Blue Velvet" horror, 2215 04:37:44,368 --> 04:37:46,413 but I do know it was covered in Fangoria. 2216 04:37:46,437 --> 04:37:48,207 David Lynch is bouncing in and out of horror 2217 04:37:48,231 --> 04:37:49,689 throughout all of his films, 2218 04:37:49,713 --> 04:37:51,482 and I think horror fans, 2219 04:37:51,506 --> 04:37:52,896 our antenna perked up. 2220 04:37:52,920 --> 04:37:55,310 It delivers horror probably more effectively 2221 04:37:55,334 --> 04:37:57,896 than half the movies sitting in the horror section 2222 04:37:57,920 --> 04:37:58,989 at the video store. 2223 04:38:00,989 --> 04:38:02,207 The severed ear moment. 2224 04:38:02,231 --> 04:38:03,344 The camera moves in. 2225 04:38:03,368 --> 04:38:04,277 There's ants on it. 2226 04:38:04,301 --> 04:38:06,207 It's incredibly graphic. 2227 04:38:06,231 --> 04:38:07,782 That's a pure horror moment. 2228 04:38:10,265 --> 04:38:11,965 Don't you fucking look at me! 2229 04:38:11,989 --> 04:38:14,793 Frank Booth is one of the great horror villains. 2230 04:38:14,817 --> 04:38:17,758 He was terrifying, because he was unpredictable. 2231 04:38:17,782 --> 04:38:20,413 He was a madman, and it felt unsafe 2232 04:38:20,437 --> 04:38:22,655 in a way that by, say, 1986, 2233 04:38:22,679 --> 04:38:24,437 a lot of our movie slashers didn't. 2234 04:38:25,644 --> 04:38:27,758 Does horror even need to be scary? 2235 04:38:27,782 --> 04:38:30,034 It just has to disturb you in some kind of way. 2236 04:38:30,058 --> 04:38:31,276 What's cool about the 1980s 2237 04:38:31,300 --> 04:38:33,586 is horror was so big, that it actually 2238 04:38:33,610 --> 04:38:35,817 infiltrated other genres. 2239 04:38:36,748 --> 04:38:39,172 Ow! 2240 04:38:39,196 --> 04:38:40,517 I'm glad to see you finally made it 2241 04:38:40,541 --> 04:38:42,207 to the suburbs, bitch! 2242 04:38:42,231 --> 04:38:44,689 My first horror film, "Return to Oz". 2243 04:38:44,713 --> 04:38:46,862 It's like mombie taking her heads off, 2244 04:38:46,886 --> 04:38:48,300 screaming, the wheelers. 2245 04:38:50,506 --> 04:38:51,724 Come here! 2246 04:38:51,748 --> 04:38:53,620 It can be a character, 2247 04:38:53,644 --> 04:38:55,965 like one person in that film brings the horror. 2248 04:38:55,989 --> 04:38:57,955 The judge in "Roger Rabbit", right? 2249 04:38:58,886 --> 04:39:00,379 When I killed your brother, 2250 04:39:00,403 --> 04:39:02,403 I talked just like this! 2251 04:39:05,368 --> 04:39:07,482 "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", 2252 04:39:07,506 --> 04:39:11,586 looking as a human hand plunged into the chest 2253 04:39:11,610 --> 04:39:14,413 of a sacrificial victim, and the beating heart 2254 04:39:14,437 --> 04:39:15,655 was ripped out. 2255 04:39:15,679 --> 04:39:19,207 This horrifying ritual really held 2256 04:39:19,231 --> 04:39:20,851 all the elements of horror. 2257 04:39:25,644 --> 04:39:27,413 A movie that scared the crap out of me 2258 04:39:27,437 --> 04:39:30,093 when I was little was "The Wiz". 2259 04:39:34,989 --> 04:39:37,138 My favorite movie of all time was "Wizard of Oz", 2260 04:39:37,162 --> 04:39:38,551 which is also pretty scary. 2261 04:39:38,575 --> 04:39:39,586 You know, you get to those winged monkeys, 2262 04:39:39,610 --> 04:39:41,334 and it's like, terror. 2263 04:39:44,058 --> 04:39:44,965 Help, help! 2264 04:39:44,989 --> 04:39:45,989 Help! 2265 04:39:47,162 --> 04:39:49,448 "The Dark Crystal", "The Black Cauldron", 2266 04:39:49,472 --> 04:39:51,586 like animation, horror. 2267 04:39:51,610 --> 04:39:53,034 The field. 2268 04:39:53,058 --> 04:39:55,058 It's covered with blood. 2269 04:39:59,162 --> 04:40:01,207 These movies have elements of horror, 2270 04:40:01,231 --> 04:40:02,713 and that's what we grew up on. 2271 04:40:04,886 --> 04:40:08,000 The psyche can do crazy things to you, as well. 2272 04:40:08,024 --> 04:40:09,448 Your thoughts can turn dark on you, 2273 04:40:09,472 --> 04:40:11,827 and that's also scary, and a person that you know 2274 04:40:11,851 --> 04:40:14,138 can change on you, and that's scary. 2275 04:40:14,162 --> 04:40:15,551 Aging is scary. 2276 04:40:15,575 --> 04:40:17,034 Dreams are scary. 2277 04:40:17,058 --> 04:40:17,932 The dark is scary. 2278 04:40:17,956 --> 04:40:19,689 There's dark every day. 2279 04:40:19,813 --> 04:40:22,582 It's gonna get dark every day. 2280 04:40:22,806 --> 04:40:24,186 It's gonna get scary. 2281 04:40:25,255 --> 04:40:26,059 Wait! 2282 04:40:26,083 --> 04:40:27,093 Ow! 2283 04:40:27,117 --> 04:40:31,369 Get away! 2284 04:40:31,393 --> 04:40:32,600 Horror is everywhere. 2285 04:40:33,703 --> 04:40:34,703 It's everywhere. 2286 04:40:47,289 --> 04:40:50,541 "Things" a horrifying sensation 2287 04:40:50,565 --> 04:40:53,438 that'll rip apart your soul. 2288 04:40:53,462 --> 04:40:56,300 A lot of people know that Canadian horror movies 2289 04:40:56,324 --> 04:40:58,300 are Canadian just because they're in English, 2290 04:40:58,324 --> 04:41:00,748 so they get lumped in with American ones, 2291 04:41:00,772 --> 04:41:01,955 but don't be fooled. 2292 04:41:01,979 --> 04:41:03,438 Just because Canadians have a reputation 2293 04:41:03,462 --> 04:41:05,679 for being polite doesn't mean our horror movies are. 2294 04:41:05,703 --> 04:41:08,058 Canada actually made a lot of slasher movies 2295 04:41:08,082 --> 04:41:09,507 in the 80s, which is appropriate, 2296 04:41:09,531 --> 04:41:10,955 because we helped start the genre 2297 04:41:10,979 --> 04:41:13,737 with the original "Black Christmas" back in the 70s. 2298 04:41:15,289 --> 04:41:17,082 Why should America have all the fun? 2299 04:41:18,255 --> 04:41:20,438 In addition to all those great slasher movies, 2300 04:41:20,462 --> 04:41:23,403 Canada was also responsible for making this movie 2301 04:41:23,427 --> 04:41:25,507 called "Things", which has been called 2302 04:41:25,531 --> 04:41:27,772 one of the worst movies ever made. 2303 04:41:32,806 --> 04:41:34,093 Oh no! 2304 04:41:34,117 --> 04:41:35,438 What did I do? 2305 04:41:35,462 --> 04:41:38,024 These two idiots sit around and drink beer 2306 04:41:38,048 --> 04:41:40,369 for a little bit, and then all of a sudden, 2307 04:41:40,393 --> 04:41:43,393 these weird ant thingies invade their home. 2308 04:41:46,634 --> 04:41:48,334 Oh my god! 2309 04:41:48,358 --> 04:41:49,358 Susan! 2310 04:41:50,220 --> 04:41:52,300 It's not a horror comedy, 2311 04:41:52,324 --> 04:41:54,576 but I'd be hard pressed to find something funnier, 2312 04:41:54,600 --> 04:41:56,462 because it's fucking terrible. 2313 04:42:03,117 --> 04:42:06,576 The whole thing has a very home movie quality to it. 2314 04:42:06,600 --> 04:42:08,955 Everything looks homemade, like the little ants 2315 04:42:08,979 --> 04:42:11,196 looks like they're made out of paper mache, 2316 04:42:11,220 --> 04:42:13,507 the blood looks like they mixed food coloring 2317 04:42:13,531 --> 04:42:14,748 and corn syrup. 2318 04:42:14,772 --> 04:42:17,265 Mm, that's human blood, all right. 2319 04:42:17,289 --> 04:42:19,886 "Things" might just be the most Canadian 2320 04:42:19,910 --> 04:42:21,748 movie ever made, and I don't just mean 2321 04:42:21,772 --> 04:42:23,507 most Canadian horror movie, 2322 04:42:23,531 --> 04:42:27,024 I mean the most Canadian movie, period. 2323 04:42:27,048 --> 04:42:28,048 Oh thanks, man. 2324 04:42:28,806 --> 04:42:29,989 You can practically smell 2325 04:42:30,013 --> 04:42:31,955 the half empty Molson bottles, 2326 04:42:31,979 --> 04:42:34,162 watching this movie. 2327 04:42:34,186 --> 04:42:37,782 Blood is just dripping like maple syrup! 2328 04:42:37,806 --> 04:42:39,334 The big selling point for "Things" 2329 04:42:39,358 --> 04:42:42,196 is that Ginger Lynn is in it, the famous porn star. 2330 04:42:42,220 --> 04:42:43,886 But when you see the movie, she's not doing 2331 04:42:43,910 --> 04:42:45,920 anything porn related. 2332 04:42:45,944 --> 04:42:48,093 She's like a newscaster for, I don't know, 2333 04:42:48,117 --> 04:42:50,024 30 seconds at the beginning of the movie. 2334 04:42:50,048 --> 04:42:51,576 They probably took whatever budget they had 2335 04:42:51,600 --> 04:42:53,334 and gave her half of it, 2336 04:42:53,358 --> 04:42:55,151 so what, two grand maybe. 2337 04:42:57,186 --> 04:42:59,334 At the end of the movie, they start killing 2338 04:42:59,358 --> 04:43:01,265 these weird ant things with a chainsaw, 2339 04:43:01,289 --> 04:43:03,093 and spraying fake blood everywhere. 2340 04:43:03,117 --> 04:43:04,403 I really hope the guys who made it 2341 04:43:04,427 --> 04:43:06,507 got their damage deposit back on the place 2342 04:43:06,531 --> 04:43:07,841 they were staying. 2343 04:43:09,875 --> 04:43:10,852 But now that everyone seems 2344 04:43:10,876 --> 04:43:12,955 to be talking about it again, 2345 04:43:12,979 --> 04:43:17,979 do I dare subject myself to the ridiculosity of "Things"? 2346 04:43:19,151 --> 04:43:20,841 I'll be okay! 2347 04:43:30,737 --> 04:43:33,369 The situation in Venice is now critical. 2348 04:43:33,393 --> 04:43:35,886 A giant toxic cloud has settled over the city, 2349 04:43:35,910 --> 04:43:38,162 and is slowly destroying every form of life. 2350 04:43:38,186 --> 04:43:40,369 I'm in an infamous movie 2351 04:43:40,393 --> 04:43:42,300 that has several different titles. 2352 04:43:42,324 --> 04:43:44,610 "Shocking Dark", AKA "Terminator", 2353 04:43:44,634 --> 04:43:46,186 or da-da-da-da-da. 2354 04:43:47,600 --> 04:43:50,955 The movie originally was called "Shocking Magenta". 2355 04:43:50,979 --> 04:43:52,196 How are you gonna translate that? 2356 04:43:52,220 --> 04:43:53,713 That doesn't work in any language. 2357 04:43:53,737 --> 04:43:54,817 That's not the only name 2358 04:43:54,841 --> 04:43:56,369 it's called "Contaminator". 2359 04:43:56,393 --> 04:43:58,817 "The Killers of Venice Beach". 2360 04:43:58,841 --> 04:44:01,231 It has lots of names, and that has something 2361 04:44:01,255 --> 04:44:02,541 to do with distribution. 2362 04:44:02,565 --> 04:44:05,576 Venice before the year 2000. 2363 04:44:05,600 --> 04:44:08,196 "Shocking Dark" is a movie where the filmmakers 2364 04:44:08,220 --> 04:44:11,610 attempt to warn people of the hazards 2365 04:44:11,634 --> 04:44:13,782 of industrial pollution. 2366 04:44:13,806 --> 04:44:16,531 Fear fighting against the unknown. 2367 04:44:17,462 --> 04:44:18,610 Hurry! 2368 04:44:18,634 --> 04:44:20,610 They're coming, they're coming! 2369 04:44:20,634 --> 04:44:22,851 My character in "Shocking Dark" 2370 04:44:22,875 --> 04:44:24,576 is Lieutenant Koster, 2371 04:44:24,600 --> 04:44:27,748 and I'm telling all these guys what to do. 2372 04:44:27,772 --> 04:44:29,817 All right, you bunch of pussies! 2373 04:44:29,841 --> 04:44:32,817 I'm back, and I'm kicking ass! 2374 04:44:32,841 --> 04:44:35,334 And I'm not politically correct about it, 2375 04:44:35,358 --> 04:44:37,610 and I don't care, but it's because 2376 04:44:37,634 --> 04:44:39,058 they're my guys. 2377 04:44:39,082 --> 04:44:39,990 Careful, baby. 2378 04:44:40,014 --> 04:44:41,472 That thing just might go off! 2379 04:44:41,496 --> 04:44:43,955 They're sending us into the depths of Venice. 2380 04:44:43,979 --> 04:44:46,610 My impression is they're gonna find out 2381 04:44:46,634 --> 04:44:49,748 it's a creature from another planet. 2382 04:44:49,772 --> 04:44:52,231 I can't say that was exactly the plot 2383 04:44:52,255 --> 04:44:54,462 when I started the movie. 2384 04:44:55,427 --> 04:44:57,048 And they're waiting for you! 2385 04:44:59,324 --> 04:45:00,232 Who are they? 2386 04:45:00,256 --> 04:45:01,438 What are you talking about? 2387 04:45:01,462 --> 04:45:03,507 It's a sandwich that didn't even have 2388 04:45:03,531 --> 04:45:04,644 a whole loaf of bread. 2389 04:45:04,668 --> 04:45:06,851 So it starts out pumpernickel, 2390 04:45:06,875 --> 04:45:08,851 and then it ends up a brioche, 2391 04:45:08,975 --> 04:45:10,986 and then it's a slice of pizza. 2392 04:45:11,110 --> 04:45:13,593 Can't you smell that stink of shit? 2393 04:45:16,489 --> 04:45:17,707 The creatures in "Shocking Dark". 2394 04:45:17,731 --> 04:45:20,155 I have been told they remind people 2395 04:45:20,179 --> 04:45:22,120 of the creature from "Alien", 2396 04:45:22,144 --> 04:45:23,879 but when I was in the movie, 2397 04:45:23,903 --> 04:45:25,362 and as the movie was told to me, 2398 04:45:25,386 --> 04:45:27,120 by the director, Bruno Mattei, 2399 04:45:27,144 --> 04:45:29,155 he intended it to be more 2400 04:45:29,179 --> 04:45:31,455 of "The Creature From the Black Lagoon". 2401 04:45:35,317 --> 04:45:37,569 We're chemically dumping in the waters around Venice, 2402 04:45:37,593 --> 04:45:41,396 so originally the concept was this thing, 2403 04:45:41,420 --> 04:45:42,776 maybe it got radiated, 2404 04:45:42,800 --> 04:45:44,972 because that's what they were kind of thinking. 2405 04:45:46,317 --> 04:45:48,075 Something wraps around my neck. 2406 04:45:51,627 --> 04:45:52,879 Go back and watch carefully. 2407 04:45:52,903 --> 04:45:54,603 So this hand is going oh, oh, 2408 04:45:54,627 --> 04:45:56,707 and this hand from below is wrapping around 2409 04:45:56,731 --> 04:45:59,120 my own neck, and I'm going like that. 2410 04:45:59,144 --> 04:46:00,776 So every time somebody says to me 2411 04:46:00,800 --> 04:46:03,293 it's a ripoff of "Alien" and "Terminator", 2412 04:46:03,317 --> 04:46:05,707 I go not if you're holding the rubber mask 2413 04:46:05,731 --> 04:46:07,179 with your own hand 2414 04:46:11,213 --> 04:46:12,913 "Shocking Dark" is such a shameless ripoff 2415 04:46:12,937 --> 04:46:14,741 of so many other things that it was legally not 2416 04:46:14,765 --> 04:46:17,489 able to be released in the States for many years. 2417 04:46:20,489 --> 04:46:22,362 This is the end of the line. 2418 04:46:22,386 --> 04:46:23,810 You look at movies by guys 2419 04:46:23,834 --> 04:46:25,086 like Bruno Mattei, and you think it was 2420 04:46:25,110 --> 04:46:27,500 probably a pretty good party onset. 2421 04:46:27,524 --> 04:46:29,189 End of the line. 2422 04:46:29,213 --> 04:46:30,500 Maybe as long as the filmmakers are having 2423 04:46:30,524 --> 04:46:31,948 a great time, you hope it bleeds through 2424 04:46:31,972 --> 04:46:33,489 to the screen. 2425 04:46:39,213 --> 04:46:42,672 Bruno Mattei was by no means kidding himself 2426 04:46:42,696 --> 04:46:45,189 of where he was in the film industry. 2427 04:46:45,213 --> 04:46:47,075 And he's in on the joke. 2428 04:46:53,144 --> 04:46:55,120 I worked on two movies with him, 2429 04:46:55,144 --> 04:46:57,327 and he was always up against a budget, 2430 04:46:57,351 --> 04:46:59,189 and he never took it badly, 2431 04:46:59,213 --> 04:47:01,431 he was never in a bad mood, 2432 04:47:01,455 --> 04:47:02,844 and he was a lot of fun. 2433 04:47:02,868 --> 04:47:03,708 I miss him. 2434 04:47:03,732 --> 04:47:05,006 I miss him a great deal. 2435 04:47:10,903 --> 04:47:14,569 A new film by Alejandro Jodorowsky. 2436 04:47:14,593 --> 04:47:16,110 "Santa Sangre". 2437 04:47:18,248 --> 04:47:22,155 "Santa Sangre" is a Felini-esque kind of nightmare 2438 04:47:22,179 --> 04:47:26,086 from the perverted mind of Alejandro Jodorowsky. 2439 04:47:26,110 --> 04:47:28,879 It's just saturated with blood, 2440 04:47:28,903 --> 04:47:33,500 circus carnage, crazy cults, skin, surrealism, 2441 04:47:33,524 --> 04:47:35,800 and enough symbolism to send you to a shrink. 2442 04:47:41,524 --> 04:47:42,810 Now you're a man. 2443 04:47:42,834 --> 04:47:45,741 It is an absolute masterpiece. 2444 04:47:45,765 --> 04:47:49,465 Jodorowsky, he was approached by Dario Argento's brother, 2445 04:47:49,489 --> 04:47:51,500 Claudio, to make a movie. 2446 04:47:51,524 --> 04:47:53,396 It was essentially, I need you to make 2447 04:47:53,420 --> 04:47:56,465 a Dario Argento movie, but by Alejandro Jodorowsky. 2448 04:47:56,489 --> 04:47:59,603 Well, he ended up taking it way further 2449 04:47:59,627 --> 04:48:00,776 into the direction of Jodorowsky, 2450 04:48:00,800 --> 04:48:03,041 and making something entirely unique. 2451 04:48:05,144 --> 04:48:07,465 Sure, it's painted in a horror movie, 2452 04:48:07,489 --> 04:48:09,155 but it's a coming of age story 2453 04:48:09,179 --> 04:48:13,075 about a boy growing up in a circus freak setting, 2454 04:48:14,282 --> 04:48:16,500 that really shows the streets of Mexico City 2455 04:48:16,524 --> 04:48:18,017 in a different light. 2456 04:48:18,041 --> 04:48:19,913 There's something so special about all these characters, 2457 04:48:19,937 --> 04:48:22,362 being in makeup, being in their costumes, 2458 04:48:22,386 --> 04:48:24,982 and that's how they are every day of their lives, 2459 04:48:25,006 --> 04:48:27,293 and actually also something very sad 2460 04:48:27,317 --> 04:48:28,765 about that, too. 2461 04:48:35,110 --> 04:48:37,017 That that is the identity of these characters. 2462 04:48:37,041 --> 04:48:39,672 That is the way that people see them as, 2463 04:48:39,696 --> 04:48:43,455 as clowns, as performers, as freaks. 2464 04:48:45,382 --> 04:48:47,013 It just shows such a truth, 2465 04:48:47,137 --> 04:48:49,493 not just in Mexico, but it shows a truth 2466 04:48:49,517 --> 04:48:51,482 of how easy we are judgmental. 2467 04:48:53,862 --> 04:48:55,907 There's so many scenes in that film 2468 04:48:55,931 --> 04:48:58,148 I did not expect to continue to escalate, 2469 04:48:58,172 --> 04:48:59,838 to go oh my god! 2470 04:48:59,862 --> 04:49:00,666 Oh my god! 2471 04:49:00,690 --> 04:49:02,241 Ugh! 2472 04:49:03,482 --> 04:49:05,217 The dad, the owner of this circus, 2473 04:49:05,241 --> 04:49:07,976 just has an affair, spoiler alert, 2474 04:49:08,000 --> 04:49:10,113 cuts this woman's arms off, 2475 04:49:10,137 --> 04:49:11,769 and it's like what the! 2476 04:49:11,793 --> 04:49:13,758 It's insane! 2477 04:49:15,758 --> 04:49:17,493 The wonderful character of Conchita, 2478 04:49:17,517 --> 04:49:19,217 and you just see how her arms 2479 04:49:19,241 --> 04:49:20,734 get completely cut off, 2480 04:49:20,758 --> 04:49:22,527 blood pouring out of her arms, 2481 04:49:22,551 --> 04:49:25,413 and how she's just looking at the sky, at us. 2482 04:49:27,551 --> 04:49:29,044 The one-two punch of attacking them 2483 04:49:29,068 --> 04:49:31,148 during sex and throwing acid on them, 2484 04:49:31,172 --> 04:49:33,976 and then getting both of her arms chopped off, 2485 04:49:34,000 --> 04:49:36,182 with beautiful Simon Boswell music 2486 04:49:36,206 --> 04:49:37,149 playing in the background. 2487 04:49:37,173 --> 04:49:39,320 That's hard to equal in cinema, 2488 04:49:39,344 --> 04:49:41,034 let alone in this movie. 2489 04:49:45,965 --> 04:49:46,976 And from that point on, 2490 04:49:47,000 --> 04:49:49,527 to see our main character 2491 04:49:49,551 --> 04:49:53,424 trying to find acceptance, love, and freedom 2492 04:49:53,448 --> 04:49:57,320 of his own demons, how he now is trapped 2493 04:49:57,344 --> 04:49:59,596 to be his own mother's arms, 2494 04:49:59,620 --> 04:50:01,872 speaks to such a sadness, 2495 04:50:01,896 --> 04:50:04,079 and such a truth of manipulation. 2496 04:50:04,103 --> 04:50:06,448 It just completely breaks my heart, 2497 04:50:07,413 --> 04:50:09,275 and grosses me out 2498 04:50:13,862 --> 04:50:15,389 "Santa Sangre" was not afraid to talk 2499 04:50:15,413 --> 04:50:17,700 about the problems of machismo, 2500 04:50:17,724 --> 04:50:21,734 the class system, and just the difference in cultures 2501 04:50:21,758 --> 04:50:23,941 with the Americanos and the Mexicans, 2502 04:50:23,965 --> 04:50:25,148 and all from the point of view 2503 04:50:25,172 --> 04:50:26,424 of an innocent child. 2504 04:50:26,448 --> 04:50:28,631 That corruption, that manipulation, 2505 04:50:28,655 --> 04:50:31,700 how sex and violence can really, really change 2506 04:50:31,724 --> 04:50:35,379 a child's life, that movie is true horror. 2507 04:50:53,793 --> 04:50:55,631 For "Fright Night", I had no sense 2508 04:50:55,655 --> 04:50:57,217 of what is was going to become. 2509 04:50:57,241 --> 04:50:59,631 I thought it was a fun movie, 2510 04:50:59,655 --> 04:51:00,941 it was creative, and it was gonna be 2511 04:51:00,965 --> 04:51:03,424 a little bitty horror movie for that summer. 2512 04:51:03,448 --> 04:51:06,838 Really special experience, and the longer I'm away from it, 2513 04:51:06,862 --> 04:51:09,379 the more I realize that. 2514 04:51:10,620 --> 04:51:11,838 "Fright Night 2". 2515 04:51:11,862 --> 04:51:13,275 ♪ Take me baby 2516 04:51:16,000 --> 04:51:17,803 "Fright Night 2", Tommy Lee Wallace 2517 04:51:17,827 --> 04:51:19,182 did a terrific job. 2518 04:51:19,206 --> 04:51:20,631 I wasn't available. 2519 04:51:20,655 --> 04:51:23,596 Instead I did "Fatal Beauty" with Whoopi Goldberg. 2520 04:51:23,620 --> 04:51:25,551 I should have done "Fright Night 2". 2521 04:51:27,137 --> 04:51:28,803 Johnny. 2522 04:51:28,827 --> 04:51:30,355 Peter. 2523 04:51:30,379 --> 04:51:31,413 It's happening again. 2524 04:51:33,068 --> 04:51:36,113 "Fright Night 2" was really more about the modern 2525 04:51:36,137 --> 04:51:37,976 80s age, when people were really starting 2526 04:51:38,000 --> 04:51:42,665 to experiment and to be curious about cultures and people. 2527 04:51:42,689 --> 04:51:46,379 I give you the new host of Fright Night, Regine! 2528 04:51:48,793 --> 04:51:50,286 From Regine's point of view, 2529 04:51:50,310 --> 04:51:54,068 my only brother, the love of my life, was murdered. 2530 04:51:57,137 --> 04:51:59,551 And I am 2000 years old. 2531 04:52:00,413 --> 04:52:01,413 Uh, come in. 2532 04:52:02,137 --> 04:52:03,045 Thanks. 2533 04:52:03,069 --> 04:52:05,769 I find Charlie Brewster, 2534 04:52:05,793 --> 04:52:09,586 and I play with him like a cat playing with a mouse. 2535 04:52:11,000 --> 04:52:15,286 Julie as Regine was breaking the glass ceiling in a way. 2536 04:52:15,310 --> 04:52:16,413 This is not a dream. 2537 04:52:18,862 --> 04:52:22,631 "Fright Night Part 2" is a lot about inverting 2538 04:52:22,655 --> 04:52:25,941 the sexual and gender stereotypes 2539 04:52:25,965 --> 04:52:29,803 that had traditionally been part of the vampire genre. 2540 04:52:29,827 --> 04:52:32,493 She was taking ownership of lust and power 2541 04:52:32,517 --> 04:52:35,872 and hunger and all of that stuff, 2542 04:52:35,896 --> 04:52:37,758 and she feminized it. 2543 04:52:42,241 --> 04:52:46,769 I think Regine is empowering for women in general, 2544 04:52:46,793 --> 04:52:48,838 and for Latinas. 2545 04:52:48,862 --> 04:52:53,862 There's an eroticism that is beyond gender identification. 2546 04:52:55,275 --> 04:52:59,586 Regine Dandridge, it was very open to love and sensuality. 2547 04:53:04,893 --> 04:53:09,110 She's not just a stark, startling character. 2548 04:53:09,134 --> 04:53:13,479 She's cushy, and warm, and you know. 2549 04:53:15,134 --> 04:53:17,410 Is it hot in here? 2550 04:53:21,306 --> 04:53:23,179 You'll have to get closer than that. 2551 04:53:23,203 --> 04:53:27,386 Peter Vincent was Roddy McDowall's love letter 2552 04:53:27,410 --> 04:53:30,696 to the vampire hunters of the past. 2553 04:53:30,720 --> 04:53:32,651 Peter Cushing, Vincent Price. 2554 04:53:34,479 --> 04:53:35,834 Roddy was a photographer, 2555 04:53:35,858 --> 04:53:37,869 so he was always taking pictures. 2556 04:53:37,893 --> 04:53:40,455 He was into documenting stuff. 2557 04:53:40,479 --> 04:53:44,248 Encyclopedia of movie history. 2558 04:53:44,272 --> 04:53:47,076 He knew where the bodies were buried. 2559 04:53:47,100 --> 04:53:51,179 I kill vampires. 2560 04:53:51,203 --> 04:53:52,593 It was a different movie, 2561 04:53:52,617 --> 04:53:54,903 it was like an army of ghouls and vampires 2562 04:53:54,927 --> 04:53:58,031 and creatures that we were up against this time. 2563 04:53:59,789 --> 04:54:02,076 Russel Clark played Belle, 2564 04:54:02,100 --> 04:54:04,444 a wraith-like vampire on roller skates. 2565 04:54:06,341 --> 04:54:09,144 Those three characters, Jonathan Gries, 2566 04:54:09,168 --> 04:54:11,386 Brian Thompson, and Russel, 2567 04:54:11,410 --> 04:54:14,662 they're all so distinctive and unique 2568 04:54:14,686 --> 04:54:17,513 in the characters that they came up with. 2569 04:54:19,686 --> 04:54:22,548 I have an entourage of fabulous men. 2570 04:54:25,617 --> 04:54:28,869 Russel Clarke, he had choreographed Michael Jackson, 2571 04:54:28,893 --> 04:54:32,248 and Brian Thompson came up with the naming 2572 04:54:32,272 --> 04:54:36,341 all of these bugs with their Latin names. 2573 04:54:43,100 --> 04:54:46,548 There's just a scholarliness to this foursome. 2574 04:54:48,272 --> 04:54:50,100 Are you thirsty, Charlie? 2575 04:54:51,548 --> 04:54:54,627 Once I started transitioning into a vampire, 2576 04:54:54,651 --> 04:54:56,558 I enjoyed getting to fang up 2577 04:54:56,582 --> 04:54:59,213 and get pasty, and all that stuff. 2578 04:54:59,237 --> 04:55:01,213 I had my Christmas cards that year 2579 04:55:01,237 --> 04:55:06,237 were me in a vampire, sort of holiday vampire theme. 2580 04:55:07,893 --> 04:55:10,007 "Fright Night 2" resonates with people, 2581 04:55:10,031 --> 04:55:11,386 there's something for everyone in it. 2582 04:55:11,410 --> 04:55:13,972 And everyone's kind of represented, especially today. 2583 04:55:13,996 --> 04:55:16,375 You notice if someone's not represented now. 2584 04:55:17,513 --> 04:55:19,800 It shocked people that somebody 2585 04:55:19,824 --> 04:55:22,282 would break the rules as much as we did, 2586 04:55:22,306 --> 04:55:25,386 even though it made more money at the box office 2587 04:55:25,410 --> 04:55:28,282 than anything else that opened that weekend, 2588 04:55:28,306 --> 04:55:31,248 I think the whole distribution went into a tailspin, 2589 04:55:31,272 --> 04:55:34,179 and then you could hardly find it on VHS, 2590 04:55:34,203 --> 04:55:36,110 but people have unearthed it, 2591 04:55:36,134 --> 04:55:37,869 literally dug it up from the grave, 2592 04:55:37,893 --> 04:55:39,731 so I'm very grateful to the people 2593 04:55:39,755 --> 04:55:42,582 who've done that, because Regine was really fun. 2594 04:55:43,513 --> 04:55:45,548 Welcome to Fright Night. 2595 04:55:51,341 --> 04:55:52,972 I have such a specific memory 2596 04:55:52,996 --> 04:55:57,007 of begging my dad to take me to see "Relentless" 2597 04:55:57,031 --> 04:55:58,455 when I was too young to see it. 2598 04:55:58,479 --> 04:55:59,731 I was probably 12. 2599 04:55:59,755 --> 04:56:02,351 Judd Nelson is Buck Taylor. 2600 04:56:02,375 --> 04:56:05,237 And Buck Taylor is "Relentless". 2601 04:56:07,027 --> 04:56:09,934 This was a Hollywood maniac slasher, 2602 04:56:10,058 --> 04:56:12,300 so it was a well-produced film. 2603 04:56:18,196 --> 04:56:21,310 Cops chasing a serial killer in Los Angeles. 2604 04:56:21,334 --> 04:56:23,034 Well, who the fuck killed him? 2605 04:56:23,058 --> 04:56:23,862 Well how the fuck do I know? 2606 04:56:23,886 --> 04:56:24,863 It's my first day. 2607 04:56:24,887 --> 04:56:26,896 Judd Nelson is the product 2608 04:56:26,920 --> 04:56:29,931 of an abusive relationship with his father, 2609 04:56:29,955 --> 04:56:34,896 who was a police officer, who he both feared and idolized, 2610 04:56:34,920 --> 04:56:37,586 when he couldn't live up to his father's ideal 2611 04:56:37,610 --> 04:56:39,689 to also become a police officer, 2612 04:56:39,713 --> 04:56:43,379 he decides he's going to go out and kill people 2613 04:56:43,403 --> 04:56:45,127 with his father's name. 2614 04:56:47,644 --> 04:56:50,207 Leo Rossi and Robert Loggia, 2615 04:56:50,231 --> 04:56:52,000 they are investigating it. 2616 04:56:52,024 --> 04:56:53,276 Read this. 2617 04:56:53,300 --> 04:56:54,862 No clues, no nothing. 2618 04:56:54,886 --> 04:56:56,276 What is it? 2619 04:56:56,300 --> 04:56:57,689 The asshole left it. 2620 04:56:57,713 --> 04:56:59,793 John had seen "Maniac", and really liked it, 2621 04:56:59,817 --> 04:57:02,610 and came aboard wanting to play the role. 2622 04:57:04,955 --> 04:57:06,620 For me stylistically, 2623 04:57:06,644 --> 04:57:10,644 it was my Dario Argento film in daylight. 2624 04:57:13,127 --> 04:57:15,138 What really messed me up too with that film 2625 04:57:15,162 --> 04:57:16,448 is there's a pretty brutal 2626 04:57:16,472 --> 04:57:19,851 piano wire strangulation sequence. 2627 04:57:23,334 --> 04:57:25,758 It was intense for me to watch as a kid. 2628 04:57:25,782 --> 04:57:26,782 Isn't that better? 2629 04:57:28,506 --> 04:57:30,448 I like the scene where Judd is running 2630 04:57:30,472 --> 04:57:31,482 on the rooftop. 2631 04:57:31,506 --> 04:57:32,620 We did a little trick there. 2632 04:57:32,644 --> 04:57:34,172 We used a Louma crane, 2633 04:57:34,196 --> 04:57:35,724 and when he's hidden, the stunt guy 2634 04:57:35,748 --> 04:57:37,172 comes out the other end, 2635 04:57:37,196 --> 04:57:40,300 and we tried to make it as seamless as possible. 2636 04:57:41,541 --> 04:57:44,724 There was a moment that was cut from the script 2637 04:57:44,748 --> 04:57:47,138 that I really wish I had shot. 2638 04:57:47,162 --> 04:57:50,551 The scene that I had stolen from a Japanese movie 2639 04:57:50,575 --> 04:57:52,620 called "Vengeance is Mine". 2640 04:57:52,644 --> 04:57:55,517 Coming down the street was a patrol car, 2641 04:57:55,541 --> 04:57:57,344 and Judd looks down at his hands, 2642 04:57:57,368 --> 04:57:58,827 and there's blood on his hands, 2643 04:57:58,851 --> 04:58:01,689 so he goes in the bushes, and pees on his hands 2644 04:58:01,713 --> 04:58:03,334 to wash the blood off of them. 2645 04:58:05,162 --> 04:58:06,344 And I thought, wow. 2646 04:58:06,368 --> 04:58:08,517 That would really say a lot about a character. 2647 04:58:08,541 --> 04:58:09,758 It might have been a bit too much 2648 04:58:09,782 --> 04:58:11,541 for mainstream audience. 2649 04:58:15,300 --> 04:58:17,172 It's all right. 2650 04:58:17,196 --> 04:58:19,103 I had a great time with Judd Nelson. 2651 04:58:19,127 --> 04:58:20,655 Always joking around. 2652 04:58:20,679 --> 04:58:22,931 All the actors, all sweethearts. 2653 04:58:22,955 --> 04:58:25,379 It was a wonderful experience on that film. 2654 04:58:25,403 --> 04:58:26,862 Yo brothers, what's up? 2655 04:58:26,886 --> 04:58:28,276 I had no interference. 2656 04:58:28,300 --> 04:58:30,620 Everything that's in "Relentless" is mine, 2657 04:58:30,644 --> 04:58:32,276 for better or worse, it was the way 2658 04:58:32,300 --> 04:58:34,448 I made the film, and I'm quite proud of it. 2659 04:58:34,472 --> 04:58:35,896 I think it came out okay. 2660 04:58:35,920 --> 04:58:36,920 Please. 2661 04:58:38,127 --> 04:58:39,127 Don't hurt my son. 2662 04:58:41,024 --> 04:58:42,448 But it feels dated to me. 2663 04:58:42,472 --> 04:58:45,620 First is "Maniac Cop", which was made before that 2664 04:58:45,644 --> 04:58:47,310 doesn't feel dated to me. 2665 04:58:47,334 --> 04:58:48,713 Go figure. 2666 04:58:49,713 --> 04:58:50,713 Oh my god! 2667 04:59:00,955 --> 04:59:02,644 William Hickey as 2668 04:59:04,265 --> 04:59:06,034 "The Puppet Master". 2669 04:59:06,058 --> 04:59:10,138 One of my favorite franchises is "The Puppet Master". 2670 04:59:10,162 --> 04:59:12,724 And the first one was just so perfect to me. 2671 04:59:12,748 --> 04:59:14,758 And now they have 80 of them. 2672 04:59:14,782 --> 04:59:16,127 Every single one, I want. 2673 04:59:17,886 --> 04:59:20,931 It had Blade, Tunneler, Jester, 2674 04:59:20,955 --> 04:59:24,413 with his weird face stuff, and Leech Girl, 2675 04:59:24,437 --> 04:59:27,955 and lots, and lots, and lots of creepy ass puppets. 2676 04:59:29,334 --> 04:59:31,586 I have all those puppets as action figures. 2677 04:59:31,610 --> 04:59:33,862 They're some of my favorite collectibles to this day. 2678 04:59:33,886 --> 04:59:37,058 I just wanted to see the puppets fucking kill people. 2679 04:59:41,989 --> 04:59:45,482 You pair that with just this weird fucking story 2680 04:59:45,506 --> 04:59:49,103 about an undead dude who just wanted to get his, 2681 04:59:49,127 --> 04:59:53,034 gets his rivals together to kill them off one by one. 2682 04:59:53,058 --> 04:59:55,724 And using the old techniques of the old Puppet Master, 2683 04:59:55,748 --> 04:59:58,172 I brought myself back to life. 2684 04:59:58,196 --> 04:59:59,104 Why? 2685 04:59:59,128 --> 05:00:01,103 I want to live forever. 2686 05:00:01,127 --> 05:00:03,817 That is a piece of art that came to life as a movie. 2687 05:00:07,437 --> 05:00:09,172 Yeah, I'm a stop motion freak. 2688 05:00:09,196 --> 05:00:11,517 Dave Allen helped shape shift those characters 2689 05:00:11,541 --> 05:00:14,000 into what they are now, and gave them some 2690 05:00:14,024 --> 05:00:17,093 historical context, because it takes place in the 40s. 2691 05:00:18,437 --> 05:00:21,310 And next thing you know, we morph into a script, 2692 05:00:21,334 --> 05:00:24,024 and David Schmoeller did a great job with the script. 2693 05:00:29,541 --> 05:00:32,276 Charlie Band, he would give me a lot of creative freedom. 2694 05:00:32,300 --> 05:00:34,965 It's real easy to write these things. 2695 05:00:34,989 --> 05:00:37,138 You hope that this is gonna work. 2696 05:00:37,162 --> 05:00:38,655 It goes from effect to effect. 2697 05:00:38,679 --> 05:00:40,069 I mean, some of them work great, 2698 05:00:40,093 --> 05:00:42,920 and some of them are really stretches, you know. 2699 05:00:47,644 --> 05:00:49,103 You fucker! 2700 05:00:49,127 --> 05:00:50,896 I thought I could create magic, 2701 05:00:50,920 --> 05:00:53,886 and these really great things would happen. 2702 05:00:56,093 --> 05:00:57,620 These little dolls, they would find 2703 05:00:57,644 --> 05:01:02,207 all these sadistic ways to murder human beings. 2704 05:01:02,231 --> 05:01:06,000 It was diabolical. 2705 05:01:06,024 --> 05:01:08,827 Leech Woman, Lord she looks so cute 2706 05:01:08,851 --> 05:01:10,931 and pretty but then 2707 05:01:10,955 --> 05:01:13,103 and this nasty ass leech, 2708 05:01:13,127 --> 05:01:15,093 and it's just, no, why? 2709 05:01:18,920 --> 05:01:20,851 We actually used leeches. 2710 05:01:23,334 --> 05:01:26,034 The puppet with the tiniest little head, 2711 05:01:26,058 --> 05:01:30,300 and massive baby hands, just beating the crap out of people. 2712 05:01:33,403 --> 05:01:36,172 You're taking inanimate objects 2713 05:01:36,196 --> 05:01:38,886 and turning them into real things. 2714 05:01:46,058 --> 05:01:47,448 We would talk about it, and he would go off 2715 05:01:47,472 --> 05:01:50,931 and execute whatever I needed to have 2716 05:01:50,955 --> 05:01:52,758 these puppets doing. 2717 05:01:52,782 --> 05:01:54,413 There would always be some surprise 2718 05:01:54,437 --> 05:01:57,413 that was better than what we had talked about. 2719 05:01:57,437 --> 05:02:00,758 Low budget filmmaking is an art in itself. 2720 05:02:00,782 --> 05:02:02,448 It's such a crapshoot. 2721 05:02:02,472 --> 05:02:04,034 What's happening, Alice? 2722 05:02:04,058 --> 05:02:06,689 You're making movies for no money, 2723 05:02:06,713 --> 05:02:10,610 and then you're expecting a studio to pick it up. 2724 05:02:14,196 --> 05:02:16,379 The fact that Paramount released it 2725 05:02:16,403 --> 05:02:18,379 gave it a lot of cache. 2726 05:02:18,403 --> 05:02:21,310 Gave it a lot of credibility. 2727 05:02:21,334 --> 05:02:24,058 What the hell are you looking at? 2728 05:02:27,368 --> 05:02:30,103 The original idea of these characters 2729 05:02:30,127 --> 05:02:31,931 that all start off a little differently, 2730 05:02:31,955 --> 05:02:34,920 helped my business, my life, and my creativity. 2731 05:02:37,748 --> 05:02:39,448 We're about to shoot our 13th Puppet Master 2732 05:02:39,472 --> 05:02:41,127 32 years later. 2733 05:02:47,196 --> 05:02:48,931 "The Black Cat". 2734 05:02:48,955 --> 05:02:51,265 The last word in terror. 2735 05:02:53,644 --> 05:02:56,172 "The Black Cat", Luigi Cozzi, 2736 05:02:56,196 --> 05:02:59,851 or Lewis Coates, as he's known in America. 2737 05:03:01,058 --> 05:03:02,058 Black Cat, 1A, take one. 2738 05:03:02,989 --> 05:03:04,379 My lovely Luigi, who directed 2739 05:03:04,403 --> 05:03:08,000 and kind of created "Stellar Star Star Crash". 2740 05:03:08,024 --> 05:03:09,241 It was his baby. 2741 05:03:09,265 --> 05:03:11,620 He wanted to do this one for quite some time. 2742 05:03:11,644 --> 05:03:14,448 Well, we've already got the storyline blocked out, 2743 05:03:14,472 --> 05:03:16,000 but before we get down to writing the screenplay, 2744 05:03:16,024 --> 05:03:18,896 we'd like some pointers about reincarnation. 2745 05:03:18,920 --> 05:03:21,000 I read the script, and I thought yeah, it's interesting. 2746 05:03:21,124 --> 05:03:21,928 It's different. 2747 05:03:21,952 --> 05:03:23,444 Don't use that name. 2748 05:03:23,568 --> 05:03:24,820 Change it at once. 2749 05:03:24,944 --> 05:03:25,989 What name, Levana? 2750 05:03:26,013 --> 05:03:27,231 Yes. 2751 05:03:27,255 --> 05:03:28,806 Don't take the risk of summoning her. 2752 05:03:29,979 --> 05:03:32,472 Dario Argento had a hand in it. 2753 05:03:32,496 --> 05:03:35,920 Dario Argento directed it, "Suspiria", 2754 05:03:35,944 --> 05:03:38,438 and I must admit, it was very, very good. 2755 05:03:38,462 --> 05:03:40,644 Luigi worked very closely with Dario. 2756 05:03:40,668 --> 05:03:42,196 It was shot in Italy. 2757 05:03:42,220 --> 05:03:45,024 Not a lot of plot, but beautiful to look at. 2758 05:03:45,048 --> 05:03:47,541 Great performances from the actors. 2759 05:03:47,565 --> 05:03:48,782 They were all European. 2760 05:03:48,806 --> 05:03:51,265 I think I was the only English person in it. 2761 05:03:51,289 --> 05:03:54,748 We had a wonderful prince called Urbano Barberini 2762 05:03:54,772 --> 05:03:56,920 who was in it, and then you had Florence Guerin, 2763 05:03:56,944 --> 05:03:58,782 who was wonderful in the film. 2764 05:03:58,806 --> 05:04:00,358 She was fantastic. 2765 05:04:04,255 --> 05:04:06,782 You can never leave! 2766 05:04:06,806 --> 05:04:08,886 You'll never be Levana the witch! 2767 05:04:08,910 --> 05:04:10,093 Never, never! 2768 05:04:10,117 --> 05:04:13,600 She was an actress, I was an actress. 2769 05:04:16,600 --> 05:04:17,542 Cut. 2770 05:04:17,566 --> 05:04:18,989 Florence was the nice one. 2771 05:04:19,013 --> 05:04:21,644 I was just a bitch, I would say, really, basically. 2772 05:04:21,668 --> 05:04:22,886 Sorry. 2773 05:04:22,910 --> 05:04:24,324 So I have your permission to, uh, 2774 05:04:26,048 --> 05:04:27,220 put it to him? 2775 05:04:29,737 --> 05:04:30,542 But it was good character for me. 2776 05:04:30,566 --> 05:04:31,713 I liked it. 2777 05:04:31,737 --> 05:04:34,265 Quite dark, and she was all out for herself. 2778 05:04:34,289 --> 05:04:37,024 Everything was about her, really. 2779 05:04:37,048 --> 05:04:40,093 She was very jealous of Florence and the husband. 2780 05:04:40,117 --> 05:04:41,875 Why in god's name did you do it? 2781 05:04:43,462 --> 05:04:46,127 The same reason I took Mark away from you, Anne. 2782 05:04:46,151 --> 05:04:47,576 For Levana. 2783 05:04:47,600 --> 05:04:49,438 My character was capable of anything, really. 2784 05:04:49,462 --> 05:04:51,231 I liked that concept. 2785 05:04:51,255 --> 05:04:52,438 What is your command? 2786 05:04:52,462 --> 05:04:54,289 I ordered you to stop Anne. 2787 05:04:55,255 --> 05:04:57,127 It rolled along nicely. 2788 05:04:57,151 --> 05:04:58,851 Maybe not the best dialogue. 2789 05:04:58,875 --> 05:05:01,600 And you know what you must do with it. 2790 05:05:02,772 --> 05:05:04,679 The baby's in the other room. 2791 05:05:04,703 --> 05:05:06,093 Some of the scenes were quite heavy 2792 05:05:06,117 --> 05:05:07,300 with the special effects. 2793 05:05:07,324 --> 05:05:08,841 Very bloody. 2794 05:05:10,944 --> 05:05:12,427 It is a bit weird, isn't it? 2795 05:05:14,565 --> 05:05:16,024 They're quite gruesome effects. 2796 05:05:16,048 --> 05:05:18,600 Looking back on it, they were really, really good. 2797 05:05:30,772 --> 05:05:32,610 The Spanish title for "Grave Robbers" 2798 05:05:32,634 --> 05:05:34,462 is "Ladrones De Tumbas". 2799 05:05:36,186 --> 05:05:38,265 There's a lot of satanic rituals, 2800 05:05:38,489 --> 05:05:40,358 and a lot of killings. 2801 05:05:42,800 --> 05:05:46,569 A guy is persecuted by the Inquisition, 2802 05:05:46,593 --> 05:05:49,707 and he's tortured, and murdered, 2803 05:05:49,731 --> 05:05:52,800 and he promises to return for vengeance. 2804 05:06:00,800 --> 05:06:04,155 Our main characters, they go to the cemeteries, 2805 05:06:04,179 --> 05:06:06,844 dig up the graves, extract the bodies, 2806 05:06:06,868 --> 05:06:09,741 look for gold and valuable things, 2807 05:06:09,765 --> 05:06:12,627 and they sell them in the black market. 2808 05:06:14,524 --> 05:06:17,327 They go through a tunnel into the dungeons 2809 05:06:17,351 --> 05:06:18,903 of this old hacienda. 2810 05:06:21,110 --> 05:06:23,041 And strange things start happening. 2811 05:06:31,179 --> 05:06:33,120 By the time we shot "Grave Robbers", 2812 05:06:33,144 --> 05:06:36,362 I was a big expert in prosthetics 2813 05:06:36,386 --> 05:06:38,776 and special effects, cinematography. 2814 05:06:38,800 --> 05:06:40,455 I had learned a lot. 2815 05:06:43,627 --> 05:06:44,741 We didn't shoot it in English. 2816 05:06:44,765 --> 05:06:46,638 We shot it in Spanish. 2817 05:06:46,662 --> 05:06:48,707 We shot that film in Valle de Bravo. 2818 05:06:48,731 --> 05:06:51,534 It's about an hour and a half from Mexico City. 2819 05:06:51,558 --> 05:06:52,569 It's in the mountains. 2820 05:06:52,593 --> 05:06:54,765 There's woods all over. 2821 05:06:58,972 --> 05:07:01,489 One girl is kidnapped. 2822 05:07:02,903 --> 05:07:06,534 And the policemen go inside the dungeons, 2823 05:07:06,558 --> 05:07:09,982 and he finds his daughter tied up to the floor. 2824 05:07:10,006 --> 05:07:11,224 The demon walks in 2825 05:07:11,248 --> 05:07:13,868 and they engage in a fight. 2826 05:07:18,006 --> 05:07:20,569 When our hero comes in and saves the policeman 2827 05:07:20,593 --> 05:07:22,431 and saves the girl. 2828 05:07:22,455 --> 05:07:24,386 That's a memorable scene. 2829 05:07:28,144 --> 05:07:32,362 It had known actors for the domestic market. 2830 05:07:32,386 --> 05:07:34,741 It was aimed for the right target, 2831 05:07:34,765 --> 05:07:37,327 and it was a very big success in Mexico, 2832 05:07:37,351 --> 05:07:40,362 and then a big success when the video clubs 2833 05:07:40,386 --> 05:07:41,696 started renting it out. 2834 05:07:43,524 --> 05:07:44,707 No! 2835 05:07:44,731 --> 05:07:48,431 I wasn't aware how this film became 2836 05:07:48,455 --> 05:07:51,293 part of the cult 1980s horror films, 2837 05:07:51,317 --> 05:07:53,776 because my career has gone on. 2838 05:07:53,800 --> 05:07:56,362 I'm mostly known in Mexico for being 2839 05:07:56,386 --> 05:07:59,041 a reality show producer. 2840 05:08:00,248 --> 05:08:02,362 I'm proud of them because they were done 2841 05:08:02,386 --> 05:08:04,258 with no money, with no time, 2842 05:08:04,282 --> 05:08:06,489 with no technical resources. 2843 05:08:07,420 --> 05:08:09,362 I was in the process of learning 2844 05:08:09,386 --> 05:08:11,534 how to become a filmmaker. 2845 05:08:11,558 --> 05:08:14,593 We were just kids having fun. 2846 05:08:25,937 --> 05:08:28,948 I have no idea why people romanticize films 2847 05:08:28,972 --> 05:08:31,638 simply because they were made in the 80s. 2848 05:08:31,662 --> 05:08:32,879 Hi. 2849 05:08:32,903 --> 05:08:35,362 But because they were made in the 80s, 2850 05:08:35,386 --> 05:08:37,972 they develop a cult reputation. 2851 05:08:40,937 --> 05:08:43,569 I'm really thrilled that audiences now 2852 05:08:43,593 --> 05:08:45,258 really appreciate this stuff, 2853 05:08:45,282 --> 05:08:47,569 that back in the 80s, people were just like, 2854 05:08:47,593 --> 05:08:49,431 nah, you know, whatever. 2855 05:08:49,455 --> 05:08:51,672 Now there's a whole new renaissance, 2856 05:08:51,696 --> 05:08:54,396 if you will, and people are really getting into them, 2857 05:08:54,420 --> 05:08:56,189 and really loving them, and giving them 2858 05:08:56,213 --> 05:08:58,327 the kudos that they deserve. 2859 05:08:58,351 --> 05:09:00,327 They have a life today that's not the same 2860 05:09:00,351 --> 05:09:01,741 as their life in the 80s, 2861 05:09:01,765 --> 05:09:04,189 but let's get real about, you know 2862 05:09:04,213 --> 05:09:06,800 Orson Welles didn't make any of these films. 2863 05:09:08,179 --> 05:09:09,982 We need to reframe the way that we look 2864 05:09:10,006 --> 05:09:12,282 at good and bad movies. 2865 05:09:13,937 --> 05:09:15,707 Bad movies can be enjoyable. 2866 05:09:15,731 --> 05:09:17,500 You can find a different way to look at it. 2867 05:09:17,524 --> 05:09:19,834 I mean, no one's setting out to make a bad movie. 2868 05:09:23,075 --> 05:09:25,258 It doesn't really matter how great 2869 05:09:25,282 --> 05:09:27,396 or not great these movies were, 2870 05:09:27,420 --> 05:09:28,810 it's important to remember 2871 05:09:28,834 --> 05:09:32,638 how the cast, the crew, the producers, 2872 05:09:32,662 --> 05:09:35,396 the director, put all their love and energy 2873 05:09:35,420 --> 05:09:38,327 and money into these various films, 2874 05:09:38,351 --> 05:09:40,741 and really made them into something unique 2875 05:09:40,765 --> 05:09:42,662 that there was an audience for. 2876 05:09:44,041 --> 05:09:45,707 I think it's important for us to keep 2877 05:09:45,731 --> 05:09:47,776 these films in conversation. 2878 05:09:47,800 --> 05:09:49,293 Especially the ones that people think 2879 05:09:49,317 --> 05:09:52,327 maybe are not so great, because there's the obvious ones, 2880 05:09:52,351 --> 05:09:54,258 like "The Shining", "The Thing". 2881 05:09:54,282 --> 05:09:57,534 Those extend beyond horror audiences. 2882 05:09:57,558 --> 05:09:58,707 But then there's kind of like, 2883 05:09:58,731 --> 05:10:00,810 we have these in danger of being forgotten 2884 05:10:00,834 --> 05:10:03,293 or going extinct gems. 2885 05:10:03,317 --> 05:10:05,672 As we move from this media format 2886 05:10:05,696 --> 05:10:07,155 to this media format, 2887 05:10:07,179 --> 05:10:08,776 there's things that kind of get pushed to the wayside, 2888 05:10:08,800 --> 05:10:10,293 and we're leaving them behind. 2889 05:10:10,317 --> 05:10:12,017 Hide the body, and come back, 2890 05:10:12,041 --> 05:10:13,638 and clean up the blood. 2891 05:10:13,662 --> 05:10:16,293 People should champion anything that they enjoy, 2892 05:10:16,317 --> 05:10:18,903 because that's how you keep things alive. 2893 05:10:21,834 --> 05:10:23,017 Streaming is great. 2894 05:10:23,041 --> 05:10:25,603 I love that it makes things easily accessible 2895 05:10:25,627 --> 05:10:28,569 to the masses, but also it doesn't compare 2896 05:10:28,593 --> 05:10:31,500 to browsing and picking something up 2897 05:10:31,524 --> 05:10:33,844 and feeling it, smelling it, 2898 05:10:33,868 --> 05:10:35,189 holding it in your hands 2899 05:10:35,213 --> 05:10:37,386 is a special kind of experience. 2900 05:10:40,593 --> 05:10:43,982 Home video and cable meant that movies 2901 05:10:44,006 --> 05:10:47,500 didn't go away, and that meant that movies 2902 05:10:47,524 --> 05:10:49,913 found their audience. 2903 05:10:49,937 --> 05:10:51,569 And then word of mouth kicks in. 2904 05:10:51,593 --> 05:10:55,638 And to no small extent, creates horror fandom, 2905 05:10:55,662 --> 05:10:58,258 which has become this tidal wave 2906 05:10:58,282 --> 05:11:03,017 over the 30, 40 years since that technology arrived. 2907 05:11:03,041 --> 05:11:05,844 Of course it's not ideal to see a movie on tape 2908 05:11:05,868 --> 05:11:07,672 as opposed to seeing it on the big screen, 2909 05:11:07,696 --> 05:11:09,258 but as we see that the way that the world 2910 05:11:09,282 --> 05:11:12,569 has currently gone, many more people see movies 2911 05:11:12,593 --> 05:11:14,155 on their devices than they ever see 2912 05:11:14,179 --> 05:11:15,948 on a theater screen, and the trade off 2913 05:11:15,972 --> 05:11:18,051 is it isn't gonna be seen 2914 05:11:18,075 --> 05:11:19,500 by very many people in the theater. 2915 05:11:19,524 --> 05:11:21,213 It's mostly gonna be seen at home. 2916 05:11:22,351 --> 05:11:25,362 Today, there's a kind of casualness to it. 2917 05:11:25,386 --> 05:11:27,534 I'm still a child of the cinema. 2918 05:11:27,558 --> 05:11:30,569 I'm not crazy about people being introduced 2919 05:11:30,593 --> 05:11:31,937 to horror through digital. 2920 05:11:33,144 --> 05:11:34,810 The upside is that the screens are better, 2921 05:11:34,834 --> 05:11:36,707 they're bigger, the sound is better. 2922 05:11:36,731 --> 05:11:38,224 People are very serious about the way 2923 05:11:38,248 --> 05:11:39,534 they present their films, 2924 05:11:39,558 --> 05:11:42,017 and so it's a theater-like experience, 2925 05:11:42,141 --> 05:11:43,634 but it's not a theater experience, 2926 05:11:43,758 --> 05:11:45,527 because a theater experience is with a large 2927 05:11:45,651 --> 05:11:48,248 audience of people, who make the difference 2928 05:11:48,272 --> 05:11:50,962 between what you're watching, and what you're experiencing. 2929 05:11:52,337 --> 05:11:54,693 An experienced horror film with a big audience 2930 05:11:54,717 --> 05:11:57,279 that's enjoying it is a completely different 2931 05:11:57,303 --> 05:12:00,727 and more fun experience than watching it 2932 05:12:00,751 --> 05:12:02,072 at home with two friends. 2933 05:12:02,096 --> 05:12:03,417 That's just night and day. 2934 05:12:03,441 --> 05:12:05,520 Part of the problem is our technology 2935 05:12:05,544 --> 05:12:06,969 is so magnificent now. 2936 05:12:06,993 --> 05:12:10,210 People think anything old is clunky. 2937 05:12:10,334 --> 05:12:12,069 This desire just to see the new, 2938 05:12:12,093 --> 05:12:14,551 the new, the new, the next, the next, the next, 2939 05:12:14,575 --> 05:12:17,344 sometimes prevents us from taking some time 2940 05:12:17,368 --> 05:12:19,310 out of our very busy lives 2941 05:12:19,334 --> 05:12:21,862 and realizing that there's some great stuff 2942 05:12:21,886 --> 05:12:23,575 from the past. 2943 05:12:26,437 --> 05:12:29,896 Maybe the movie itself isn't necessarily great, 2944 05:12:29,920 --> 05:12:31,965 but it's the experience of watching it 2945 05:12:31,989 --> 05:12:33,896 that makes it great, and then 20 years later, 2946 05:12:33,920 --> 05:12:36,482 you're telling people, no you have to watch "Motel Hell". 2947 05:12:36,506 --> 05:12:38,782 This is one of the greatest movies ever made. 2948 05:12:41,748 --> 05:12:43,241 They hold it near and dear to their heart 2949 05:12:43,265 --> 05:12:46,207 because they've seen it with their father who's passed, 2950 05:12:46,231 --> 05:12:48,586 or cousin made them watch it to scare them, 2951 05:12:48,610 --> 05:12:50,276 or whatever, however they saw it. 2952 05:12:50,300 --> 05:12:52,300 It holds good memories for people. 2953 05:12:53,955 --> 05:12:55,379 Horror is personal. 2954 05:12:55,403 --> 05:12:58,344 We can all agree on a good horror film. 2955 05:12:58,368 --> 05:12:59,724 It's like, ah "Psycho". 2956 05:12:59,748 --> 05:13:02,448 But nobody's defending "Psycho" to the death. 2957 05:13:02,472 --> 05:13:05,517 I think we have it all wrong when we talk about horror. 2958 05:13:05,541 --> 05:13:08,207 We're like, this is good, or this is bad. 2959 05:13:08,231 --> 05:13:09,724 No. 2960 05:13:09,748 --> 05:13:12,103 Something is entertaining or it's not entertaining, 2961 05:13:12,127 --> 05:13:15,379 and by putting everything on a good and bad dichotomy, 2962 05:13:15,403 --> 05:13:17,482 we ruin our experience of being able 2963 05:13:17,506 --> 05:13:21,344 to talk about a movie, like "Sleepaway Camp II", 2964 05:13:21,368 --> 05:13:23,344 that's just like a fucking good time. 2965 05:13:23,368 --> 05:13:25,655 "Sleepaway Camp II" doesn't have to be high art, 2966 05:13:25,679 --> 05:13:27,517 to be a social satire. 2967 05:13:27,541 --> 05:13:30,379 Howdy partner! 2968 05:13:30,403 --> 05:13:31,586 I actually think that you can find 2969 05:13:31,610 --> 05:13:33,207 more in our culture and history 2970 05:13:33,231 --> 05:13:35,207 and even just social context 2971 05:13:35,231 --> 05:13:37,517 in films that are labeled trash. 2972 05:13:37,541 --> 05:13:39,379 There's more there to actually pick from, 2973 05:13:39,403 --> 05:13:42,344 and shine a light on who we were as people. 2974 05:13:42,368 --> 05:13:43,862 Like, a popcorn film? 2975 05:13:43,886 --> 05:13:48,024 That's loaded with identity, and society, and culture. 2976 05:13:49,472 --> 05:13:51,655 I'm way more interested in the history I'm gonna get 2977 05:13:51,679 --> 05:13:53,689 from a movie that people cast aside 2978 05:13:53,713 --> 05:13:54,965 than the history I'm gonna get 2979 05:13:54,989 --> 05:13:57,265 and what I learn in a film school class. 2980 05:13:59,920 --> 05:14:04,586 Let's not get insanely academic about these films. 2981 05:14:04,610 --> 05:14:06,655 The people who watch these movies in the 80s 2982 05:14:06,679 --> 05:14:09,034 weren't watching them from an ironic point of view. 2983 05:14:09,058 --> 05:14:11,482 They were watching them because they enjoyed the mayhem. 2984 05:14:11,506 --> 05:14:13,965 The people who watch those same movies today 2985 05:14:13,989 --> 05:14:16,482 are watching them from an academic standpoint, 2986 05:14:16,506 --> 05:14:19,689 as though they're analyzing every little detail 2987 05:14:19,713 --> 05:14:20,758 of the film. 2988 05:14:20,782 --> 05:14:22,276 These films were made by guys 2989 05:14:22,300 --> 05:14:24,517 who wanted to make a fast buck. 2990 05:14:24,541 --> 05:14:26,276 These films were made for money. 2991 05:14:26,300 --> 05:14:29,482 They were not concerned with trying to impress anybody. 2992 05:14:29,506 --> 05:14:33,310 They were concerned with the largest audience possible. 2993 05:14:33,334 --> 05:14:35,817 They were filmmakers, but they were also businessmen. 2994 05:14:38,196 --> 05:14:41,196 These aren't big extravagant productions. 2995 05:14:44,506 --> 05:14:46,310 You crazy bastard. 2996 05:14:46,334 --> 05:14:48,379 Horror lets you be creative. 2997 05:14:48,403 --> 05:14:50,103 You can go outside the box. 2998 05:14:50,127 --> 05:14:51,896 You can go outside the scope. 2999 05:14:51,920 --> 05:14:54,379 Horror, it can look cheesy and bad, 3000 05:14:54,403 --> 05:14:55,782 and it's fun. 3001 05:14:58,955 --> 05:15:01,655 We love to be scared, 3002 05:15:01,679 --> 05:15:05,575 and we love to think we're in peril. 3003 05:15:07,093 --> 05:15:12,093 And we love to be at odds with each other. 3004 05:15:13,265 --> 05:15:17,103 Movies are so powerful, because it reminds us 3005 05:15:17,127 --> 05:15:20,034 of a simpler, more innocent time. 3006 05:15:20,058 --> 05:15:21,965 And that's where we all want to be. 3007 05:15:21,989 --> 05:15:24,413 God knows in this day and age. 3008 05:15:24,437 --> 05:15:26,127 That's where we all want to be. 3009 05:16:56,748 --> 05:16:59,000 So, before watching "In Search of Darkness", 3010 05:16:59,024 --> 05:17:00,241 I was definitely one of those guys 3011 05:17:00,265 --> 05:17:02,482 who was like, yeah man, I know 80s horror. 3012 05:17:02,506 --> 05:17:04,379 Freddie and Jason! 3013 05:17:04,403 --> 05:17:06,241 Sweet! 3014 05:17:06,265 --> 05:17:07,931 And then I watched "In Search of Darkness", 3015 05:17:07,955 --> 05:17:10,379 and I realized, you naive bastard, 3016 05:17:10,403 --> 05:17:13,241 you know nothing about 80s horror. 3017 05:17:13,265 --> 05:17:15,413 So now I actually know things, 3018 05:17:15,437 --> 05:17:17,551 and like, how had I lived my life 3019 05:17:17,575 --> 05:17:19,551 and missed "Sleepaway Camp"? 3020 05:17:19,575 --> 05:17:21,413 That is a fantastic movie. 3021 05:17:21,437 --> 05:17:24,058 So thank you for awakening me. 3022 05:17:26,920 --> 05:17:28,586 80s horror is very important to me 3023 05:17:28,610 --> 05:17:30,551 as I grew up in the early 80s, 3024 05:17:30,575 --> 05:17:32,241 and horror was embedded in our culture. 3025 05:17:32,265 --> 05:17:34,034 It was in our toys, in our cartoons. 3026 05:17:34,058 --> 05:17:35,207 It was everywhere. 3027 05:17:35,231 --> 05:17:37,241 We used to draw monsters in art class, 3028 05:17:37,265 --> 05:17:38,310 like the Monster Squad, 3029 05:17:38,334 --> 05:17:39,724 and that was acceptable back then. 3030 05:17:39,748 --> 05:17:41,827 You wouldn't get locked up for stuff like that. 3031 05:17:41,851 --> 05:17:43,689 I miss going into a video store 3032 05:17:43,813 --> 05:17:46,065 and grabbing a random VHS 3033 05:17:46,089 --> 05:17:47,617 and saying hey, this box art, it looks good. 3034 05:17:47,741 --> 05:17:49,476 Is it a curse, or is it great? 3035 05:17:49,500 --> 05:17:50,820 You never know. 3036 05:17:50,844 --> 05:17:52,096 And you watch it with your friends 3037 05:17:52,220 --> 05:17:53,576 in the middle of the night, enjoying it, 3038 05:17:53,600 --> 05:17:55,703 and it brings you back to a simpler time. 3039 05:17:59,151 --> 05:18:00,403 80s horror is so important to me 3040 05:18:00,427 --> 05:18:02,265 because it's an escape from reality. 3041 05:18:02,289 --> 05:18:04,093 Takes me back to a simpler time. 3042 05:18:04,117 --> 05:18:05,507 Gives me that nostalgia. 3043 05:18:05,531 --> 05:18:06,989 And these documentaries, 3044 05:18:07,013 --> 05:18:09,127 they help nail the fact home 3045 05:18:09,151 --> 05:18:11,576 that horror can be a cathartic way 3046 05:18:11,600 --> 05:18:14,024 to deal with fear and all the BS this world 3047 05:18:14,048 --> 05:18:15,265 has to throw at us. 3048 05:18:15,289 --> 05:18:17,127 80s horror, and all horror in general, 3049 05:18:17,151 --> 05:18:18,369 and I love that. 3050 05:18:18,393 --> 05:18:20,162 These documentaries are amazing for that. 3051 05:18:20,186 --> 05:18:21,300 Favorite movie of all time? 3052 05:18:21,324 --> 05:18:23,541 "Silver Bullet", 1985. 3053 05:18:23,665 --> 05:18:26,434 It is incredible. 3054 05:18:26,558 --> 05:18:27,558 Rock on. 3055 05:18:30,593 --> 05:18:31,776 Hey. 3056 05:18:31,800 --> 05:18:33,672 I just wanted to say thank you so, so much 3057 05:18:33,696 --> 05:18:36,707 to everybody involved with "In Search of Darkness". 3058 05:18:36,731 --> 05:18:38,603 It's been absolutely fantastic. 3059 05:18:38,627 --> 05:18:40,120 I've really, really enjoyed. 3060 05:18:40,144 --> 05:18:42,707 It's flooded back memories of going down 3061 05:18:42,731 --> 05:18:44,810 the video shop, the video store, 3062 05:18:44,834 --> 05:18:47,672 in the 80s, looking at the best horror films 3063 05:18:47,696 --> 05:18:49,017 that were released. 3064 05:18:49,041 --> 05:18:50,224 Absolutely fantastic. 3065 05:18:50,248 --> 05:18:51,844 And it's also introduced me 3066 05:18:51,868 --> 05:18:54,672 to some of the classics that I missed, 3067 05:18:54,696 --> 05:18:57,248 down the video shop, going back all those years. 3068 05:19:01,627 --> 05:19:04,224 80s horror happened to coincide 3069 05:19:04,248 --> 05:19:07,569 with the VHS era, and in my opinion, 3070 05:19:07,593 --> 05:19:09,396 the 80s horror was the prime attraction 3071 05:19:09,420 --> 05:19:10,776 of the VHS. 3072 05:19:10,800 --> 05:19:12,258 I mean, look at that. 3073 05:19:12,282 --> 05:19:14,834 How could you walk by that and not want to rent it? 3074 05:19:18,213 --> 05:19:19,465 Oh, hi. 3075 05:19:19,489 --> 05:19:20,707 I'm AJ Danna. 3076 05:19:20,731 --> 05:19:23,293 I played Tapehead at "Slashback Video". 3077 05:19:23,317 --> 05:19:24,913 The "In Search of Darkness" trilogy 3078 05:19:24,937 --> 05:19:27,327 has meant so much to dust off these old 3079 05:19:27,351 --> 05:19:30,327 classic horror tapes, and make sure each and every 3080 05:19:30,351 --> 05:19:34,120 actor and filmmaker involved in these movie making gems 3081 05:19:34,144 --> 05:19:36,327 did not pour their blood, sweat, and tears 3082 05:19:36,351 --> 05:19:38,800 into movies in vain. 3083 05:19:39,868 --> 05:19:41,041 So anyways, thanks. 3084 05:19:44,351 --> 05:19:46,224 I decided to back the "In Search of Darkness" series 3085 05:19:46,248 --> 05:19:48,707 for the tireless people behind Creator BC, 3086 05:19:48,731 --> 05:19:50,776 because you learn something interesting and significant 3087 05:19:50,800 --> 05:19:52,844 about the films from the people who worked on the films 3088 05:19:52,868 --> 05:19:54,868 that you can't find anywhere else. 3089 05:19:57,248 --> 05:19:59,534 To me, horror movies were a safe haven 3090 05:19:59,558 --> 05:20:00,776 growing up in the 80s. 3091 05:20:00,800 --> 05:20:03,224 I spent so many hours in the video store 3092 05:20:03,248 --> 05:20:05,465 browsing for titles to watch. 3093 05:20:05,489 --> 05:20:08,293 When "In Search of Darkness: Part One" ended, 3094 05:20:08,317 --> 05:20:11,293 the covers shown up with a key, 3095 05:20:11,317 --> 05:20:15,086 and a dark room, the TV, the characters. 3096 05:20:15,110 --> 05:20:17,800 It was like I was that same boy. 3097 05:20:18,972 --> 05:20:22,189 This documentary has been a door to go back 3098 05:20:22,213 --> 05:20:23,524 and complete that journey. 3099 05:20:25,868 --> 05:20:27,569 80s horror movies are important to me 3100 05:20:27,593 --> 05:20:29,293 because I was raised the right way, 3101 05:20:29,317 --> 05:20:30,534 and grew up watching them 3102 05:20:30,558 --> 05:20:32,120 ever since I was a wee little one, 3103 05:20:32,144 --> 05:20:33,982 despite not growing up in that generation. 3104 05:20:34,006 --> 05:20:36,155 But it was cool people from that generation 3105 05:20:36,179 --> 05:20:37,879 who showed me those movies, and gave us 3106 05:20:37,903 --> 05:20:39,189 something to bond over. 3107 05:20:39,213 --> 05:20:41,155 But my favorite horror movie has to be 3108 05:20:41,179 --> 05:20:42,396 John Carpenter's "The Thing". 3109 05:20:42,420 --> 05:20:44,569 The most amazing practical effects 3110 05:20:44,593 --> 05:20:46,569 to the gore, and of course starring 3111 05:20:46,593 --> 05:20:49,396 the absolute hunks Kurt Russel and Keith David, 3112 05:20:49,420 --> 05:20:50,776 what is there not to love? 3113 05:20:50,800 --> 05:20:52,189 So 80s horror rules, 3114 05:20:52,213 --> 05:20:53,810 and thanks to "In Search of Darkness" 3115 05:20:53,834 --> 05:20:55,179 for bringing it all back. 3116 05:20:57,317 --> 05:21:01,224 You know, growing up as a kid with not many friends, 3117 05:21:01,248 --> 05:21:03,765 actually I had none until I was 10. 3118 05:21:05,144 --> 05:21:08,086 Single father, worked nights, and slept all day. 3119 05:21:08,110 --> 05:21:10,569 Horror movies were my go-to, 3120 05:21:10,593 --> 05:21:13,051 and the monsters were my friends, 3121 05:21:13,075 --> 05:21:14,879 and it was just awesome. 3122 05:21:14,903 --> 05:21:17,844 With the "In Search of Darkness" trilogy, 3123 05:21:17,868 --> 05:21:21,258 I got to relive that past as a child, 3124 05:21:21,282 --> 05:21:25,144 and it just, it's perfect. 3125 05:21:29,972 --> 05:21:31,051 80s horror was the best. 3126 05:21:31,075 --> 05:21:32,362 It was imagination. 3127 05:21:32,386 --> 05:21:33,603 It was entertainment. 3128 05:21:33,627 --> 05:21:35,603 It was fun, it was gory, it was crazy, 3129 05:21:35,627 --> 05:21:36,432 it was the best. 3130 05:21:36,456 --> 05:21:37,868 80 horror rules! 3131 05:21:40,800 --> 05:21:42,948 I'm Matt Weinhold, and I love 80s horror 3132 05:21:42,972 --> 05:21:46,017 because it's scary, sexy, innovative, 3133 05:21:46,041 --> 05:21:49,638 indecent, unapologetic, and fun! 3134 05:21:49,662 --> 05:21:51,868 It's the punk rock of horror! 3135 05:21:58,489 --> 05:22:00,844 Having been a teenager in the 1980s, 3136 05:22:00,868 --> 05:22:03,500 I was able to experience most of these films 3137 05:22:03,524 --> 05:22:05,189 in a theatrical setting. 3138 05:22:05,213 --> 05:22:08,224 The 80s gave us the best of John Landis, 3139 05:22:08,248 --> 05:22:11,155 and John Carpenter, and David Cronenberg, 3140 05:22:11,179 --> 05:22:13,396 and we got to see the birth of franchises 3141 05:22:13,420 --> 05:22:15,672 of "Friday the 13th" and "Nightmare on Elm Street", 3142 05:22:15,696 --> 05:22:17,603 and "Poltergeist", "Evil Dead", 3143 05:22:17,627 --> 05:22:20,086 and what "In Search of Darkness" has allowed me to do 3144 05:22:20,110 --> 05:22:23,603 is revisit those memories, and love these films 3145 05:22:23,627 --> 05:22:24,662 all over again. 3146 05:22:27,793 --> 05:22:31,079 In the 1980s, we gazed into the abyss, 3147 05:22:31,203 --> 05:22:32,696 and we smiled, 3148 05:22:32,720 --> 05:22:35,765 because it was filled with visceral practical effects, 3149 05:22:35,789 --> 05:22:38,662 intrepid heroes, garish demons, 3150 05:22:38,686 --> 05:22:41,455 and synth-laden nightmare schemes. 3151 05:22:41,479 --> 05:22:43,317 Thanks to "In Search of Darkness", 3152 05:22:43,341 --> 05:22:47,479 the abyss can finally gaze back at us, and smile. 3153 05:22:51,927 --> 05:22:53,386 My love of 80s horror films 3154 05:22:53,410 --> 05:22:55,800 started back when I was 11 years old. 3155 05:22:55,824 --> 05:22:57,524 I stayed up one night and watched "A Nightmare 3156 05:22:57,548 --> 05:22:59,248 "on Elm Street" with my mum. 3157 05:22:59,272 --> 05:23:01,041 Halfway through the film, I got so scared 3158 05:23:01,065 --> 05:23:04,144 that I went up to bed, and five minutes later, 3159 05:23:04,168 --> 05:23:05,696 I was back downstairs watching the rest 3160 05:23:05,720 --> 05:23:07,179 of the film with her. 3161 05:23:07,203 --> 05:23:09,927 That's where it started, and it's never stopped since. 3162 05:23:12,582 --> 05:23:15,420 Watching "In Search of Darkness" documentaries 3163 05:23:15,444 --> 05:23:18,513 takes me back to the best part of my childhood, 3164 05:23:19,962 --> 05:23:23,800 and also knowing that I'm watching these documentaries 3165 05:23:23,824 --> 05:23:26,386 with a community of people 3166 05:23:26,410 --> 05:23:29,869 that also share my love of 80s horror, 3167 05:23:29,893 --> 05:23:31,858 it is the best feeling. 3168 05:23:34,237 --> 05:23:38,800 The immense popularity of these movies 3169 05:23:38,824 --> 05:23:41,938 showed so many of us that we were part 3170 05:23:41,962 --> 05:23:46,800 of a global community, and so in a way, 3171 05:23:46,824 --> 05:23:48,972 the darkness became a place of comfort, 3172 05:23:48,996 --> 05:23:52,824 because we knew we weren't alone. 3173 05:23:55,272 --> 05:23:58,524 In a sense, it's more like it's our story, 3174 05:23:58,548 --> 05:24:00,386 and what these movies mean to us, 3175 05:24:00,410 --> 05:24:03,031 and I can't thank these documentaries enough for that. 3176 05:24:05,479 --> 05:24:07,765 Everything about it is so beautiful. 3177 05:24:07,789 --> 05:24:10,213 It's one of the best times of horror 3178 05:24:10,237 --> 05:24:13,410 and it makes me feel better about me and myself. 3179 05:24:17,962 --> 05:24:20,213 There's something for everyone in there, 3180 05:24:20,237 --> 05:24:23,489 whether you like slashers, comedies, 3181 05:24:23,513 --> 05:24:26,869 my personal favorite horror movie from the 1980s 3182 05:24:26,893 --> 05:24:28,800 is "Killer Klowns from Outer Space". 3183 05:24:28,824 --> 05:24:30,386 I saw that movie the first time 3184 05:24:30,410 --> 05:24:34,076 when I was maybe 10 years old, 3185 05:24:34,100 --> 05:24:36,696 and that's one of the movies that made me 3186 05:24:36,720 --> 05:24:39,282 fall in love with horror, and the reason I'm as big 3187 05:24:39,306 --> 05:24:41,168 of a horror fan as I am today. 3188 05:24:43,996 --> 05:24:46,076 When I wanted to get into horror, 3189 05:24:46,100 --> 05:24:49,317 and I was too scared to watch it by myself, 3190 05:24:49,341 --> 05:24:52,455 my friends would sit with me in my dark basement, 3191 05:24:52,479 --> 05:24:56,007 and we would watch 80s horror movies together. 3192 05:24:56,031 --> 05:24:58,110 And we started with the classics, 3193 05:24:58,134 --> 05:25:02,076 and slowly moved our way out to totally obscure titles, 3194 05:25:02,100 --> 05:25:06,869 but for me, those were really special times in my life. 3195 05:25:06,893 --> 05:25:09,696 And it really made horror, especially 80s horror, 3196 05:25:09,720 --> 05:25:12,720 something that brought people together in my life. 3197 05:25:15,341 --> 05:25:18,041 80s horror movies really had a style of their own 3198 05:25:18,065 --> 05:25:19,662 that make this particular decade of work 3199 05:25:19,686 --> 05:25:22,076 always so unique to look back on. 3200 05:25:22,100 --> 05:25:24,110 It was also a decade where it felt like special effects 3201 05:25:24,134 --> 05:25:26,696 were perfected in such a way, you could almost smell them 3202 05:25:26,720 --> 05:25:29,351 through your screen, something like "The Thing", 3203 05:25:29,375 --> 05:25:31,110 and speaking of "The Thing", you could have 3204 05:25:31,134 --> 05:25:33,420 hard horror subject like that, 3205 05:25:33,444 --> 05:25:35,455 but you could have also sillier stuff like "Vamp", 3206 05:25:35,479 --> 05:25:37,765 which makes this particular decade always so fun 3207 05:25:37,789 --> 05:25:40,248 to go back and discover new gems, 3208 05:25:40,272 --> 05:25:42,558 and I really am glad that these documentaries exist 3209 05:25:42,582 --> 05:25:44,031 to highlight all of that. 3210 05:25:46,375 --> 05:25:49,765 Best thing about 80s horror were the comedy movies, 3211 05:25:49,789 --> 05:25:52,938 like "The Burbs", and "Gremlins 2", 3212 05:25:52,962 --> 05:25:54,938 "House", "House 2", the "Ghostbusters", 3213 05:25:54,962 --> 05:25:57,076 all those movies made it so much easier 3214 05:25:57,100 --> 05:25:59,903 as a kid to then turn around and be able to watch 3215 05:25:59,927 --> 05:26:02,351 movies with this scary bastard in it, 3216 05:26:02,375 --> 05:26:04,720 and scare the shit out of you when you're a little kid. 3217 05:26:06,789 --> 05:26:08,593 John Carpenter, Wes Craven, Tobe Hooper, 3218 05:26:08,617 --> 05:26:10,938 Tom Holland, Peter Jackson, Sam Raimi, 3219 05:26:10,962 --> 05:26:12,662 Stewart Gordon, Don Coscarelli. 3220 05:26:12,686 --> 05:26:14,627 I just need an indestructible boogeyman 3221 05:26:14,651 --> 05:26:16,627 carving up annoying teenagers. 3222 05:26:16,651 --> 05:26:17,903 I don't need to know how or why. 3223 05:26:17,927 --> 05:26:19,420 It just has to show up every few years, 3224 05:26:19,444 --> 05:26:21,213 and do it again in creative ways. 3225 05:26:21,237 --> 05:26:23,076 Give me a monster with sharp teeth, 3226 05:26:23,100 --> 05:26:24,386 and gooey tentacles. 3227 05:26:24,410 --> 05:26:26,041 What I don't want is found footage, 3228 05:26:26,065 --> 05:26:27,696 and shaky cam and possessed dolls, 3229 05:26:27,720 --> 05:26:30,386 and cheesy ghosts, and spare me all the CGI blood. 3230 05:26:30,410 --> 05:26:32,489 I want Tom Savini, Screaming Mad George. 3231 05:26:32,513 --> 05:26:34,651 I want a Kurtzman Nicotero hamburger. 3232 05:26:38,203 --> 05:26:39,008 Hey guys. 3233 05:26:39,032 --> 05:26:40,420 My name is Jason. 3234 05:26:40,444 --> 05:26:41,800 And no surprise, my favorite horror franchise 3235 05:26:41,824 --> 05:26:43,903 of all time is "Friday the 13th". 3236 05:26:43,927 --> 05:26:46,489 I did a book report on Part 3 in grade six. 3237 05:26:46,513 --> 05:26:48,696 Yes, I was in grade six watching these movies, 3238 05:26:48,720 --> 05:26:50,237 and I absolutely loved them. 3239 05:26:51,789 --> 05:26:54,593 I think the 80s is absolutely the greatest decade 3240 05:26:54,617 --> 05:26:57,007 of horror films, and I grew up in the 90s. 3241 05:26:57,031 --> 05:26:59,144 There were so many great horror films made back then. 3242 05:26:59,168 --> 05:27:01,765 I can't even decide which one's my favorite. 3243 05:27:01,789 --> 05:27:03,627 I also think "In Search of Darkness" is the greatest 3244 05:27:03,651 --> 05:27:05,800 documentary ever made. 3245 05:27:05,824 --> 05:27:07,213 It introduced me to several horror films 3246 05:27:07,237 --> 05:27:09,558 I had never heard of, including "Sleepaway Camp", 3247 05:27:09,582 --> 05:27:11,144 "Fade to Black", "Motel Hell", 3248 05:27:11,168 --> 05:27:12,386 "American Werewolf in London", 3249 05:27:12,410 --> 05:27:14,800 "Society", "Scanners", "The Changeling", 3250 05:27:14,824 --> 05:27:17,076 "The Ghost Story", and so many more. 3251 05:27:17,100 --> 05:27:18,386 I don't think there will ever be anything 3252 05:27:18,410 --> 05:27:20,272 like 80s horror ever again 3253 05:27:22,582 --> 05:27:24,076 Hello, everyone. 3254 05:27:24,100 --> 05:27:26,110 What I've enjoyed most about the "In Search of Darkness" 3255 05:27:26,134 --> 05:27:28,489 documentary series would have to be 3256 05:27:28,513 --> 05:27:31,489 the behind the scenes information about the movies 3257 05:27:31,513 --> 05:27:36,076 I know and love, but also, and probably more importantly, 3258 05:27:36,100 --> 05:27:38,731 the vast amount of hidden gems 3259 05:27:38,755 --> 05:27:40,420 it has introduced me to. 3260 05:27:40,444 --> 05:27:43,455 It is mind-blowing how many entertaining horror movies 3261 05:27:43,479 --> 05:27:45,041 there are from that decade. 3262 05:27:45,065 --> 05:27:46,065 So thank you. 3263 05:27:47,824 --> 05:27:49,351 One of my favorite 1980s horror movies 3264 05:27:49,375 --> 05:27:51,213 would have to be "Night of the Demons". 3265 05:27:51,237 --> 05:27:52,903 Reason being, I was pretty young 3266 05:27:52,927 --> 05:27:54,248 when the movie first came out. 3267 05:27:54,272 --> 05:27:55,834 My older sister introduced me to the film 3268 05:27:55,858 --> 05:27:57,386 because she wanted to scare me. 3269 05:27:57,410 --> 05:27:58,869 It scared me pretty good. 3270 05:27:58,893 --> 05:28:00,869 I remember having a hard time going to sleep that night, 3271 05:28:00,893 --> 05:28:03,100 scared that the monster was gonna get me. 3272 05:28:04,548 --> 05:28:07,144 So I have a lot of nostalgic feelings about the movie. 3273 05:28:07,168 --> 05:28:08,651 That's why I like it so much. 3274 05:28:10,824 --> 05:28:14,076 My first and absolute favorite 80s horror movie 3275 05:28:14,100 --> 05:28:15,765 is "American Werewolf in London" 3276 05:28:15,789 --> 05:28:17,627 by John Landis. 3277 05:28:17,651 --> 05:28:20,662 Watching that movie sent me down a rabbit hole 3278 05:28:20,686 --> 05:28:23,731 of 80s horror movies that I'd never seen before, 3279 05:28:23,755 --> 05:28:25,558 and through that movie, I got introduced 3280 05:28:25,582 --> 05:28:27,237 to "In Search of Darkness", 3281 05:28:28,651 --> 05:28:31,455 and ever since, things have never been the same, 3282 05:28:31,479 --> 05:28:33,731 and it's been an amazing journey. 3283 05:28:33,755 --> 05:28:34,962 I thank you for it. 3284 05:28:37,755 --> 05:28:40,282 80s horror is incredibly important to me. 3285 05:28:40,306 --> 05:28:42,282 Horror slashed its way into my life 3286 05:28:42,306 --> 05:28:43,524 when I was a kid. 3287 05:28:43,548 --> 05:28:45,455 Myself and my buddies would stay up all night 3288 05:28:45,479 --> 05:28:47,627 watching horror movies, from horror icons 3289 05:28:47,651 --> 05:28:49,627 like Freddie, to "Killer Klowns from Outer Space". 3290 05:28:49,651 --> 05:28:51,627 The greatest times of my life 3291 05:28:51,651 --> 05:28:53,076 is due to the horror genre. 3292 05:28:53,100 --> 05:28:55,765 80s horror strapped me into my adult life 3293 05:28:55,789 --> 05:28:58,351 where I now collect 80s horror memorabilia, 3294 05:28:58,375 --> 05:29:00,627 plus I'm always on the hunt for 80s horror 3295 05:29:00,651 --> 05:29:02,076 that I'm yet to discover. 3296 05:29:02,100 --> 05:29:04,489 I have an insatiable thirst for blood in film. 3297 05:29:04,513 --> 05:29:06,213 Tom Savini's work in the genre 3298 05:29:06,237 --> 05:29:07,903 has my jaw dropped to the floor. 3299 05:29:07,927 --> 05:29:10,076 The realism of his work is something 3300 05:29:10,100 --> 05:29:12,524 that's gonna be admired long after I'm gone. 3301 05:29:12,548 --> 05:29:15,524 For me, he sets the bar for practical effects within horror. 3302 05:29:15,548 --> 05:29:17,386 I love "In Search of Darkness", as it's 3303 05:29:17,410 --> 05:29:20,213 a time capsule of horror, for us, the fans. 3304 05:29:20,237 --> 05:29:22,662 "In Search of Darkness" is also a love letter 3305 05:29:22,686 --> 05:29:24,489 to everyone that holds a special place 3306 05:29:24,513 --> 05:29:25,824 in their heart for horror. 3307 05:29:27,548 --> 05:29:29,938 I love how they use all practical effects, 3308 05:29:29,962 --> 05:29:32,213 for these, all the blood and guts, 3309 05:29:32,237 --> 05:29:34,627 all the rubber monsters that they used, 3310 05:29:34,651 --> 05:29:36,903 all the costume work is all hand made, 3311 05:29:36,927 --> 05:29:38,627 and all practically done. 3312 05:29:38,651 --> 05:29:40,237 It makes it look great. 3313 05:29:42,272 --> 05:29:45,144 The 80s was an era of DIY. 3314 05:29:45,168 --> 05:29:47,179 If you didn't have a passion for your craft, 3315 05:29:47,203 --> 05:29:50,110 or you didn't want your story to be told, 3316 05:29:50,134 --> 05:29:52,938 it simply wouldn't make it out there. 3317 05:29:52,962 --> 05:29:55,110 This is what showed in the films growing up, 3318 05:29:55,134 --> 05:29:56,903 which was hard. 3319 05:29:56,927 --> 05:29:59,455 It's difficult to articulate this feeling. 3320 05:29:59,479 --> 05:30:01,869 However, every fan or person contributing 3321 05:30:01,893 --> 05:30:05,179 to this series, will have moments which resonated 3322 05:30:05,203 --> 05:30:07,789 and impacted into their adult life. 3323 05:30:10,651 --> 05:30:12,213 What I love most about the 80s, 3324 05:30:12,337 --> 05:30:14,589 especially 80s horror movies, 3325 05:30:14,613 --> 05:30:17,313 is just how ridiculous the concepts are, 3326 05:30:17,337 --> 05:30:19,993 and just how well they're executed. 3327 05:30:21,958 --> 05:30:25,176 "In Search of Darkness" meant a lot to me 3328 05:30:25,200 --> 05:30:28,589 because it introduced me to a whole field, 3329 05:30:28,613 --> 05:30:30,279 a whole group of people, 3330 05:30:30,303 --> 05:30:33,762 that are so dedicated, and so motivated, 3331 05:30:33,786 --> 05:30:36,900 on trying to find a lot of 80s horror films 3332 05:30:36,924 --> 05:30:40,107 that not a lot of younger horror film fans even heard of. 3333 05:30:40,131 --> 05:30:42,382 Sometimes y'all have heard of "Halloween" 3334 05:30:42,406 --> 05:30:45,279 or "Friday the 13th", or "Nightmare on Elm Street", 3335 05:30:45,303 --> 05:30:47,176 but it's these small classic films 3336 05:30:47,200 --> 05:30:49,038 that really hold deep to my heart, 3337 05:30:49,062 --> 05:30:50,382 knowing that a lot of people have seen it 3338 05:30:50,406 --> 05:30:51,969 really brings joy to me. 3339 05:30:51,993 --> 05:30:53,579 That's why it meant a lot to me. 3340 05:30:57,234 --> 05:30:58,486 Hey, I'm Twisted Todd. 3341 05:30:58,510 --> 05:30:59,969 I'm a big fan of 80s horror films, 3342 05:30:59,993 --> 05:31:01,865 mainly because as a kid growing up in the 80s, 3343 05:31:01,889 --> 05:31:03,072 didn't get to watch a lot of horror movies, 3344 05:31:03,096 --> 05:31:04,969 but my parents rented a lot of them, 3345 05:31:04,993 --> 05:31:06,244 and I got to hear them from my bedroom, 3346 05:31:06,268 --> 05:31:07,555 which fed my curiosity, 3347 05:31:07,579 --> 05:31:09,072 so about the time I was in middle school 3348 05:31:09,096 --> 05:31:11,244 in the late 80s, finally got to watch horror films, 3349 05:31:11,268 --> 05:31:12,900 fell in love with the slasher genre, 3350 05:31:12,924 --> 05:31:14,589 love films like "Creepshow", 3351 05:31:14,613 --> 05:31:16,417 and then later on in my college days, 3352 05:31:16,441 --> 05:31:19,589 I really fell in love with the cinematic genius 3353 05:31:19,613 --> 05:31:21,210 of directors like John Carpenter, 3354 05:31:21,234 --> 05:31:22,451 and of course Sam Raimi, 3355 05:31:22,475 --> 05:31:24,200 because I'm a huge "Evil Dead" fan. 3356 05:31:26,303 --> 05:31:28,762 I grew up mesmerized by horror movies, 3357 05:31:28,786 --> 05:31:31,072 primarily throughout the 80s. 3358 05:31:31,096 --> 05:31:33,141 They were such an important part 3359 05:31:33,165 --> 05:31:35,141 of many of my formative years, 3360 05:31:35,165 --> 05:31:38,624 and contribute to so many of my young memories. 3361 05:31:38,648 --> 05:31:40,865 I've since come to embrace and enjoy 3362 05:31:40,889 --> 05:31:42,969 all cinema, having learned so much more 3363 05:31:42,993 --> 05:31:45,555 about all genres over the years, 3364 05:31:45,579 --> 05:31:47,441 but you never forget your first love. 3365 05:31:49,613 --> 05:31:50,831 Horror films of the 80s 3366 05:31:50,855 --> 05:31:53,934 were so imaginative, and so ambitious, 3367 05:31:53,958 --> 05:31:56,417 but they pull it off, and there's a real 3368 05:31:56,441 --> 05:31:58,072 charm to them, a levity that we didn't have 3369 05:31:58,096 --> 05:32:00,417 in the 70s, when everything was very real, 3370 05:32:00,441 --> 05:32:02,176 and very gritty, and then we lost it 3371 05:32:02,200 --> 05:32:03,520 somewhere in the 90s, 3372 05:32:03,544 --> 05:32:05,417 and then things got very cynical. 3373 05:32:05,441 --> 05:32:07,313 But there's a fun factor to the 80s, 3374 05:32:07,337 --> 05:32:10,313 and it's no surprise that it takes a project 3375 05:32:10,337 --> 05:32:12,693 three, four plus hour documentaries 3376 05:32:12,717 --> 05:32:14,682 to really do that decade justice. 3377 05:32:16,682 --> 05:32:18,244 Growing up in the 80s, horror movies 3378 05:32:18,268 --> 05:32:19,693 were a big part of my life. 3379 05:32:19,717 --> 05:32:21,348 Thanks to a video rentals shop, 3380 05:32:21,372 --> 05:32:22,762 I was able to watch as many as I want 3381 05:32:22,786 --> 05:32:25,796 when I wanted without issue on my edge, 3382 05:32:25,820 --> 05:32:27,176 that helped me get through the trauma of school, 3383 05:32:27,200 --> 05:32:28,969 and everything that came with it, 3384 05:32:28,993 --> 05:32:31,176 and this is why I'm passionate about them, 3385 05:32:31,200 --> 05:32:33,417 and in particular, "Nightmare on Elm Street" 3386 05:32:33,441 --> 05:32:35,613 is one I'm really passionate about. 3387 05:32:39,682 --> 05:32:42,796 80s horror movies were a big part of my childhood, 3388 05:32:42,820 --> 05:32:44,865 having grown up in the 80s, 3389 05:32:44,889 --> 05:32:46,865 I watched them all. 3390 05:32:46,889 --> 05:32:50,141 My favorite 80s horror movie of all time 3391 05:32:50,165 --> 05:32:52,348 is "A Nightmare on Elm Street". 3392 05:32:52,372 --> 05:32:55,934 It was the first horror movie I ever saw, 3393 05:32:55,958 --> 05:32:59,417 and it planted the seed for my love of horror. 3394 05:32:59,441 --> 05:33:01,658 These "Search for Darkness" documentaries 3395 05:33:01,682 --> 05:33:04,762 have been nostalgic, and brought back 3396 05:33:04,786 --> 05:33:08,579 all those happy memories of visiting video stores. 3397 05:33:10,682 --> 05:33:12,141 I was born in 1980, 3398 05:33:12,165 --> 05:33:13,727 so being a child of the 80s, 3399 05:33:13,751 --> 05:33:15,107 some of my best memories 3400 05:33:15,131 --> 05:33:16,039 were hanging out with my mom 3401 05:33:16,063 --> 05:33:17,555 on a Friday or Saturday night, 3402 05:33:17,579 --> 05:33:19,313 going down to the local video store, 3403 05:33:19,337 --> 05:33:22,693 getting some 80s horror on VHS tape, 3404 05:33:22,717 --> 05:33:23,900 and just making those memories 3405 05:33:23,924 --> 05:33:25,624 and being scared, laughing, 3406 05:33:25,648 --> 05:33:27,520 and getting all cringed up. 3407 05:33:27,544 --> 05:33:29,486 And the "In Search of Darkness" series 3408 05:33:29,510 --> 05:33:31,727 has brought those memories back to me, 3409 05:33:31,751 --> 05:33:33,969 and helped me discover all the horror films 3410 05:33:33,993 --> 05:33:35,313 I never knew existed! 3411 05:33:35,337 --> 05:33:36,337 Thank you for that. 3412 05:33:38,993 --> 05:33:40,176 Hi there. 3413 05:33:40,200 --> 05:33:41,900 I love watching horror movie documentaries 3414 05:33:41,924 --> 05:33:43,451 and anything regarding horror, 3415 05:33:43,475 --> 05:33:45,107 but one series I really love 3416 05:33:45,131 --> 05:33:47,624 is the "In Search of Darkness" series. 3417 05:33:47,648 --> 05:33:49,520 I love how all these people just show 3418 05:33:49,544 --> 05:33:51,520 how much they love and care for these movies, 3419 05:33:51,544 --> 05:33:53,865 especially for the movies I've never even heard before, 3420 05:33:53,889 --> 05:33:56,486 and I love this series, because it shows me 3421 05:33:56,510 --> 05:33:57,762 all different kinds of horror 3422 05:33:57,786 --> 05:33:59,796 that I haven't even heard before, 3423 05:33:59,820 --> 05:34:02,176 or even seen, or anything like that. 3424 05:34:02,200 --> 05:34:04,003 So I'm sad that it's ending, 3425 05:34:04,027 --> 05:34:06,682 but hey, gotta end sometimes, right? 3426 05:34:09,165 --> 05:34:10,486 I think most horror fans would agree 3427 05:34:10,510 --> 05:34:12,520 that the absolute best decade for horror 3428 05:34:12,544 --> 05:34:13,693 was the 1980s. 3429 05:34:13,717 --> 05:34:15,107 We got the best of the best, 3430 05:34:15,131 --> 05:34:16,382 the worst of the worst, 3431 05:34:16,406 --> 05:34:17,520 the best of the worst, 3432 05:34:17,544 --> 05:34:18,969 and everything in between. 3433 05:34:18,993 --> 05:34:20,176 I can't even pick a favorite, 3434 05:34:20,200 --> 05:34:21,969 because there's far too many to choose from, 3435 05:34:21,993 --> 05:34:23,831 but having something like the "In Search of Darkness" 3436 05:34:23,855 --> 05:34:26,727 trilogy has been an absolute dream come true. 3437 05:34:26,751 --> 05:34:29,072 Getting to sit there for hours and hours on end, 3438 05:34:29,096 --> 05:34:30,831 and watch my favorite filmmakers 3439 05:34:30,855 --> 05:34:32,934 talk about my favorite films has been great, 3440 05:34:32,958 --> 05:34:35,210 but it's also been great to be able to discover 3441 05:34:35,234 --> 05:34:37,855 new movies that I may not have even heard of before. 3442 05:34:40,131 --> 05:34:42,451 "Evil Dead II", "Re-Animator", 3443 05:34:42,475 --> 05:34:44,934 "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2", 3444 05:34:44,958 --> 05:34:48,865 all of these great horror films, 3445 05:34:48,889 --> 05:34:52,855 with comedic timing, comedy inserted into it, 3446 05:34:53,993 --> 05:34:56,176 really affect me, shape me, 3447 05:34:56,200 --> 05:35:00,934 to such a degree that today I write about horror 3448 05:35:00,958 --> 05:35:04,200 and horror comedy for Pace Magazine and Vulture. 3449 05:35:09,475 --> 05:35:12,727 80s horror for me signifies complete nostalgia. 3450 05:35:12,751 --> 05:35:14,693 I clearly remember being a young boy 3451 05:35:14,717 --> 05:35:17,486 and seeing these wonderful and iconic 80s posters, 3452 05:35:17,510 --> 05:35:20,727 and being simultaneously scared and intrigued. 3453 05:35:20,751 --> 05:35:23,589 But now as an academic that writes about horror, 3454 05:35:23,613 --> 05:35:25,348 documentaries like "In Search of Darkness" 3455 05:35:25,372 --> 05:35:27,693 are highly important as they raise the profile 3456 05:35:27,717 --> 05:35:29,348 of horrors in that form. 3457 05:35:29,372 --> 05:35:31,934 These films are not only fun and super cool, 3458 05:35:31,958 --> 05:35:34,865 but they are significant cultural products, 3459 05:35:34,889 --> 05:35:37,717 well-deserving of academic analysis and study. 3460 05:35:40,200 --> 05:35:44,038 The 80s was a time when the horror genre exploded. 3461 05:35:44,062 --> 05:35:46,693 Big name horror icons like Jason, Freddie, 3462 05:35:46,717 --> 05:35:49,589 Chuckie, Pinhead, all got their start in the 80s. 3463 05:35:49,613 --> 05:35:52,141 And being a late 90s kid, these were names 3464 05:35:52,165 --> 05:35:55,176 that I grew up knowing to fear. 3465 05:35:55,200 --> 05:35:56,934 My girlfriend and I searched out 3466 05:35:56,958 --> 05:35:58,486 a lot of these films, and it was something 3467 05:35:58,510 --> 05:36:00,382 that we could always bond over. 3468 05:36:00,406 --> 05:36:02,279 And I think that "In Search of Darkness" 3469 05:36:02,303 --> 05:36:03,900 did something really great, 3470 05:36:03,924 --> 05:36:07,200 cataloging and celebrating all of these films. 3471 05:36:09,200 --> 05:36:11,176 They have inspired me to go to college 3472 05:36:11,200 --> 05:36:13,693 and learn how to write horror films. 3473 05:36:13,717 --> 05:36:14,934 I'm a future filmmaker 3474 05:36:14,958 --> 05:36:17,475 because of all the movies I've watched. 3475 05:36:19,096 --> 05:36:20,796 And I'm thankful that I was able 3476 05:36:20,820 --> 05:36:22,682 to be a part of this community. 3477 05:36:25,475 --> 05:36:28,176 Watching horror movies as a kid in the 80s 3478 05:36:28,200 --> 05:36:30,865 inspired me to get into the film industry, 3479 05:36:30,889 --> 05:36:34,210 especially to make horror movies of my own, 3480 05:36:34,234 --> 05:36:36,555 and so "In Search of Darkness" continues 3481 05:36:36,579 --> 05:36:38,796 to be that inspiration, 3482 05:36:38,820 --> 05:36:41,589 and I hope it does the same 3483 05:36:41,613 --> 05:36:44,658 for, you know, the next wave of horror creators, 3484 05:36:44,882 --> 05:36:46,631 for generations to come. 3485 05:36:49,696 --> 05:36:51,120 80s horror means a lot to me, 3486 05:36:51,144 --> 05:36:52,431 takes me back to when I was a kid 3487 05:36:52,455 --> 05:36:54,258 hanging out with my brothers and my friends, 3488 05:36:54,282 --> 05:36:56,465 staying up late, watching movies I know I should not 3489 05:36:56,489 --> 05:36:57,913 have been watching at the time, 3490 05:36:57,937 --> 05:36:59,776 and falling in love with stories and characters 3491 05:36:59,800 --> 05:37:01,913 created by Wes Craven, John Carpenter, 3492 05:37:01,937 --> 05:37:04,017 George Romero, and Charles Band. 3493 05:37:04,041 --> 05:37:05,534 I will always be in their debt 3494 05:37:05,558 --> 05:37:07,362 for providing me with hours of entertainment, 3495 05:37:07,386 --> 05:37:08,776 and with "In Search of Darkness", 3496 05:37:08,800 --> 05:37:10,741 it has provided me with even more hours 3497 05:37:10,765 --> 05:37:12,017 of 80s horror entertainment 3498 05:37:12,041 --> 05:37:14,603 that I will continue to watch to this day. 3499 05:37:14,627 --> 05:37:17,765 Long live 80s horror and "In Search of Darkness". 3500 05:37:21,620 --> 05:37:24,665 As an 80s kid, one of my favorite memories 3501 05:37:24,689 --> 05:37:28,838 are from video stores Friday night selecting movies. 3502 05:37:28,862 --> 05:37:31,493 The horror section always had the best films, 3503 05:37:31,517 --> 05:37:33,344 and the most amazing cover art. 3504 05:37:34,620 --> 05:37:36,941 The 80s horror basically has it all, 3505 05:37:36,965 --> 05:37:39,320 a great story, a good cast, 3506 05:37:39,344 --> 05:37:42,275 amazing special effects, and a cool soundtrack. 3507 05:37:44,924 --> 05:37:47,658 These documentaries have been life-changing for me. 3508 05:37:47,782 --> 05:37:50,310 They were films that I had forgotten about, 3509 05:37:50,434 --> 05:37:52,651 films that I had never seen, 3510 05:37:52,675 --> 05:37:55,662 and a love for a distinct period 3511 05:37:56,186 --> 05:38:00,376 of my early life that I oftentimes feel disconnected from, 3512 05:38:00,500 --> 05:38:04,820 and I'm so thankful to have found these projects, 3513 05:38:04,844 --> 05:38:06,534 and been able to back all of them. 3514 05:38:08,644 --> 05:38:09,644 Thank you. 3515 05:38:12,093 --> 05:38:13,817 All the best parts of nostalgia 3516 05:38:15,472 --> 05:38:16,938 in a pool of blood. 3517 05:38:17,062 --> 05:38:18,062 Love it. 3518 05:38:19,958 --> 05:38:21,486 Hey, this is Jacob. 3519 05:38:21,510 --> 05:38:22,727 And Angelica. 3520 05:38:22,751 --> 05:38:24,658 We're both fans of 80s horror movies. 3521 05:38:24,682 --> 05:38:27,072 That's why we own all three volumes 3522 05:38:27,096 --> 05:38:28,727 of "In Search of Darkness". 3523 05:38:28,751 --> 05:38:31,279 It's a dictionary, basically, of all the greatest 3524 05:38:31,303 --> 05:38:33,451 horror movies made from the 80s 3525 05:38:33,475 --> 05:38:35,382 that we've all grown to love. 3526 05:38:35,406 --> 05:38:37,606 "In Search of Darkness", you rock. 3527 05:38:40,648 --> 05:38:42,486 The "In Search of Darkness" documentaries 3528 05:38:42,510 --> 05:38:44,727 have allowed me to relive, year by year, 3529 05:38:44,751 --> 05:38:47,072 a truly golden age in horror cinema. 3530 05:38:47,096 --> 05:38:49,038 In the 80s, we had directors like Carpenter, 3531 05:38:49,062 --> 05:38:51,624 Romero, and Cronenberg in the peak of their career. 3532 05:38:51,648 --> 05:38:53,831 We had a new generation of practical special effects 3533 05:38:53,855 --> 05:38:56,693 in horror cinema, and video stores coming out 3534 05:38:56,717 --> 05:38:58,451 with a new horror title every week. 3535 05:38:58,475 --> 05:39:00,382 The fact that we're still talking about all these films 3536 05:39:00,406 --> 05:39:02,658 over 30 years later just shows how durable 3537 05:39:02,682 --> 05:39:04,244 the horror genre is. 3538 05:39:04,268 --> 05:39:06,717 So please, keep those documentaries coming. 3539 05:39:11,848 --> 05:39:13,065 Hi. 3540 05:39:13,089 --> 05:39:14,582 First of all, I want to thank you 3541 05:39:14,606 --> 05:39:16,893 for including us fans in so many ways, 3542 05:39:16,917 --> 05:39:18,893 and for the journey you've been taking us 3543 05:39:18,917 --> 05:39:21,582 for the three "In Search of Darkness" documentaries. 3544 05:39:21,606 --> 05:39:24,272 I love 80s horror so much because of the style, 3545 05:39:24,296 --> 05:39:27,134 the creativity, and the passion for each of the films. 3546 05:39:27,158 --> 05:39:29,617 But the most important part for me is 3547 05:39:29,641 --> 05:39:32,548 that every single film from this horror decade, 3548 05:39:32,572 --> 05:39:33,789 the good and the bad, 3549 05:39:33,813 --> 05:39:36,400 are so great because of the fun they make. 3550 05:39:40,503 --> 05:39:42,582 David, Robin. 3551 05:39:42,606 --> 05:39:44,686 You've created a monster. 3552 05:39:44,710 --> 05:39:47,376 A timeless milestone for every horror fan. 3553 05:39:47,400 --> 05:39:49,479 And I'm extremely thankful for being featured 3554 05:39:49,503 --> 05:39:53,031 in part one of the ultimate horror documentary experience. 3555 05:39:53,055 --> 05:39:55,651 It made me feel like I'm 15 again. 3556 05:39:55,675 --> 05:39:58,479 So for anyone who's "In Search of Darkness", 3557 05:39:58,503 --> 05:40:01,055 stop searching, because we found it. 3558 05:40:03,675 --> 05:40:05,824 80s horror is so important to me 3559 05:40:05,848 --> 05:40:09,582 because it gave me ideas to draw when I was younger, 3560 05:40:09,606 --> 05:40:11,996 and as my drawing ability progressed, 3561 05:40:12,020 --> 05:40:14,238 today I'm a tattoo artist, 3562 05:40:14,262 --> 05:40:17,513 so I guess you could say 80s horror helped shape my life. 3563 05:40:17,537 --> 05:40:19,134 Plus being Canadian, I want to give 3564 05:40:19,158 --> 05:40:21,031 a special thanks to David Cronenberg 3565 05:40:21,055 --> 05:40:23,410 for all the inspiration he gave me. 3566 05:40:23,434 --> 05:40:25,651 "In Search of Darkness", honestly, 3567 05:40:25,675 --> 05:40:28,376 greatest documentary I have ever watched. 3568 05:40:28,400 --> 05:40:30,755 It brought me straight back to some of the most 3569 05:40:30,779 --> 05:40:32,400 special times of my life. 3570 05:40:34,848 --> 05:40:36,996 As a kid in the 80s, I was constantly 3571 05:40:37,020 --> 05:40:39,686 in and out of hospitals. 3572 05:40:39,710 --> 05:40:42,376 Watching horror movies and playing video games 3573 05:40:42,400 --> 05:40:43,572 was a release for me. 3574 05:40:44,744 --> 05:40:46,617 Basically, I'm the kid on the box art, 3575 05:40:46,641 --> 05:40:48,400 and on the posters. 3576 05:40:49,748 --> 05:40:53,000 I'm so proud to be part of this incredible journey 3577 05:40:53,024 --> 05:40:55,931 through 80s horror that is the "In Search of Darkness" 3578 05:40:55,955 --> 05:41:00,610 trilogy, and I just had to immortalize it on my body. 3579 05:41:05,782 --> 05:41:07,276 I love it, that we're done. 3580 05:41:07,300 --> 05:41:08,541 I love it. 3581 05:41:09,368 --> 05:41:10,368 Love it. 3582 05:41:13,096 --> 05:41:14,813 Enough is never enough 3583 05:41:17,062 --> 05:41:18,262 Of the Stuff. 3584 05:41:20,924 --> 05:41:21,924 Mmh. 268030

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