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Rolling.
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We're rolling, Daniel.
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OK, we're going, guys?
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Yeah.
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OK, Alexei, I want to talk about
something that we sort
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of touched on this morning, and you
might hate this, but I
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really want you to think about it.
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If you are killed, if this does
happen, what message do you leave
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behind to the Russian people?
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Oh, come on, Daniel.
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No.
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No way!
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It's like you're making a movie for
the case of my death.
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Like, again, I'm ready to answer
your question,
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but please let it be another movie,
movie number two.
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Like, let's make a thriller out of
this movie and,
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in the case I would be killed, let's
make a boring movie of memory.
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Alexei Navalny is stepping back into
another showdown with the Kremlin.
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What to do with Navalny presents a
conundrum
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for the Kremlin, let him go and risk
looking weak, or lock him up,
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knowing it could turn him into a
political martyr.
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SOME CHEERS.
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CLAMOURING VOICES.
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Are you not scared, Alexei?
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What do you expect in Moscow?
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CROWD CHANT "NAVALNY".
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
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Unexpectedly, Vladimir Putin has a
genuine challenger,
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a handsome 41-year-old lawyer,
Alexei Navalny, who has chosen one
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of the most dangerous occupations in
the world -
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running against the man who controls
the Kremlin.
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More than any other opposition
figure in Russia, Alexei Navalny
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gets ordinary people out to protest.
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If I want to fight Putin, if I want
to be a leader
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of a country, I have to do something
practical about it.
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Well, I have to kind of organize
people.
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I was banned from everything -
television, banned, newspapers,
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blacklisted, rallies, forbidden.
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I realised I can do a lot on my own
with the support of my wife, Yulia.
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Just a small group of people I can
rely on, zero money,
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a lot of work, internet, and that's
it.
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His youngest fans have turned to
TikTok, which has been crucial
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in spreading the word.
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Navalny's posted hundreds of videos
about his corruption investigations,
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and they're wildly popular.
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The Kremlin hates Navalny so much
that they literally
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refuse to say his name.
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Our office was raided and they just
confiscated everything - everything!
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They splashed a toxic liquid into my
face and my first
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thought was, "Jesus, I will be kind
of a monster
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until the end of my days."
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As I became more and more famous
guy, I was totally sure that my life
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became safer and safer because I am
a kind of famous guy,
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and it would be problematic for them
just to kill me.
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And, boy, were you wrong.
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Yes, I was very wrong.
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Clapper!
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So, we went to Siberia to make a
nice movie about local corruption.
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I expected a lot of police.
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I expected a lot of people who'd try
to prevent our filming,
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confiscate our cameras or just break
our cameras or try to beat us.
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I expected that sort of things and I
was very surprised, like,
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"Why is nobody here?"
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"Why is there kind of..."
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I even have this strange feeling
like,
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like a lack of respect.
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Like, seriously?
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I'm here and where is my police?
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He whole trip was the smoothest trip
I ever had in the regions.
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I am a kind of slave of Thursdays,
because on Thursday I have my
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online YouTube show.
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And then weekend, I can spend with
my family before another
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trip to another region.
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I was going home and then I died.
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Passengers on his flight from
Siberia heard Alexei
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Navalny cry out in agony.
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Other passengers filming just after
the plane makes
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an emergency landing in Siberia.
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Navalny was then rushed to the
hospital where
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he was put on a ventilator.
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His spokeswoman saying Navalny was
poisoned.
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His wife raced to be by his side.
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We've come to the conclusion that,
judging by the fact
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that there were no poisons found in
his blood or other
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biological materials,
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he has a metabolic disorder,
lowering of blood sugar
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levels to be specific.
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We're hearing state agencies here
backed by the Kremlin
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suggesting that hallucinogenic drugs
may be involved but not poisoning.
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This morning an air ambulance from a
German charity landed.
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We have to make sure his condition
is completely stable.
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We cannot transfer him in this state
even if his family have consented
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to it.
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The moment when I heard the news
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that Navalny was poisoned, my first
thought was can
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this be the Kremlin?
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Would they be so dumb to try and
kill an opposition figure?
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The main opposition figure?
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I was sceptical.
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I thought, maybe it's one of the
many oligarchs on whose feed
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is...
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Either it's a state ordered attack
or it is somebody
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who is trying to assassinate
opposition figures in order
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to at least Putin.
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The closest anyone has come to
tracing a poisoning
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to Vladimir Putin.
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The 2018 attack in Salisbury,
England.
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A defiant Kremlin insisting again
that he had nothing to do
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with the brazen assassination
attempt of former Russian
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spy Sergei Skripal.
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Skripal was poisoned by the military
grade nerve agent Novichok.
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The insidiousness of Novichok is
that it actually starts switching
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off your nerve connectors in your
body one by one.
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If it's dosed properly, it will just
turn you off as a body.
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But then within hours any trace of
it will disappear.
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So it was always, forever look like
it was a natural death.
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And this is why it appears to be the
preferred form of killing
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for people's whose death will be in
the public
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scrutiny, such as Navalny.
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There was a lot of pressure for us
to start investigating.
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Our media department in Russia who
reached out
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to us and said, "can you help?"
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We looked at them and we thought
there's no hope in hell that we can
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investigate investigate a crime that
happened in Russia,
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in the remote corners of Siberia,
sitting here comfortably in Europe.
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We didn't even try in the beginning.
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Alexei Navalny arrives at this
hospital in Berlin
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with his wife Yulia.
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A spokesperson tweeted:
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"The struggle for Alexei's life and
health is just beginning.
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Here at the hospital, both inside
and out, he'll be watched."
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To have your dad, an opposition
leader, being poisoned
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by we don't know what, we don't know
how, we don't
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know when, and just be in a random
hospital.
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It was just...
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It was surreal.
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It was literally like a book.
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Hello.
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The doctors assured they can't say
anything about his brain
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to which extent he will recover even
if they manage to wake him up.
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Many millions of Navalny supporters
are trying to out how to help.
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We in Berlin are a small team.
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We had to dive into actually getting
things done.
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We all were very sceptical about
investigating Alexei's poisoning.
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As opposed to previous cases, this
poisoning took place
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on the Russian soil, so no one is
going to share
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security footage with us.
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They're not going to have fancy
videos from the airport
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where the poisoners fly in and out.
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And as much as it hurts to admit,
while Putin is in power we'll
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never find out the truth.
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Yulia, how is your husband this
morning?
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It was so crazy, like it's Putin's
signature poison.
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We were actually so shocked.
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So he didn't just decide to murder
him, but to poison.
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And not just to poison, but exactly
Novichok.
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This was, like, really, like,
leaving his signature
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on the crime scene.
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When you come into the room of a
comatose patient,
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you are starting to just tell him
the news.
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Telling him his story.
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Alexei, don't worry.
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You were poisoned.
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There was a murder attempt.
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Putin tried to kill you with
Novichok.
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And he opened his, like, blue eyes
wide
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and looked at me and said, very
clear...
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Oh, come on.
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Poisoned?
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I don't believe it.
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It's like, he's back.
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This is Alexei.
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Putin's supposed to be, like, not so
stupid to use this Novichok.
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His wording.
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His expletive.
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His indignation.
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If you want to kill someone, just
shoot him.
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Jesus Christ.
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Like, real Alexei.
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It's impossible to believe it.
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It's kind of stupid the whole idea
of poisoning with a chemical
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weapon, what the lock?
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This is why this is so smart,
because even reasonable people
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they refuse to believe like, what?
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Come on, poisoned?
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Seriously?
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Traditional journalism implies you
meeting with a source and that
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source telling you a story.
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In today's world of fake news, we
don't trust sources.
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Because we don't trust humans.
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We trust data.
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Bellingcat is an organisation of
digital nerds most of us
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with almost a little bit of
autistic-like fascination
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with numbers.
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Every time you use your email,
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you make a phone call, you make a
doctor's appointment,
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take a plane or a train, any time
you used the ATM.
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Every time you actually look at the
screen of your phone.
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That leaves a trace.
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In a place like Russia, imagine the
person who works
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at the travel agency that has access
to the flight manifests.
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They're getting like, what, $25 a
day as a salary,
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and then for another $25 they would
be able to sell
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that flight manifest to anybody who
asks for it,
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just because it'll double their
income for the day.
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This is a whole industry.
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Data brokers are on the dark web.
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You negotiate the price and within a
few minutes they say,
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"Yep, I can get that data for you by
tomorrow."
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And then you have to send bitcoin.
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Now, Bellingcat can't pay for that
data because it's
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a foundation, so I have to pay for
that data myself.
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Over the last five years of me
working on data journalism,
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I would say I've spent $150,000.
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My wife has no idea about this.
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My wife suspects I've probably spent
$2-3,000.
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If she knew the real quantum, she
wouldn't be my wife.
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But she's gonna watch the movie.
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She's not watching this movie.
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Our expectation was once he's
released from intensive care,
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he will have a desire to go to
Russia immediately.
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To our great relief, he told me: "I
better spend
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several months here."
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"I want to go back to Russia strong
and fully recovered."
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For the longest time, I wasn't sure
what to make of Navalny.
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I always wondered wondered how much
of an independent figure
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he is or is he one of the many fake
opposition figure
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created by the Kremlin.
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I've criticised him on Twitter.
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I mean, he was known for having
flirted with the extreme right
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in the early days of his career.
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He walked side by side with some
pretty nasty
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nationalists and racists.
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Had he moved beyond that?
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Had he actually become a reverse
dark knight?
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Alexei Navalny!
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Within all my career, I've been
asked the same 15
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questions all the time.
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Are you afraid?
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Are you working for Kremlin?
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What is your family doing?
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You have a responsibility for your
family.
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If it is a foreign journalist, they
are asking about the international.
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And every one of them, Jesus Christ,
just watch previous interviews.
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Hold on.
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Were there not a couple of Sieg
Heil-ers at that thing?
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Sorry?
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Were there not a couple of Nazi guys
at that march?
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Certainly a Sieg Heil-ers are a
different category that
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you would not want to associate with
or march beside.
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Well, in the normal world, in the
normal, political system,
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of course, I would never be within
the same political
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party with them.
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But we are creating coalition,
broader coalition
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to fight their regime.
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Just to achieve the situation where
everyone can
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participate in election.
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A lot of politicians woulf even be
uncomfortable to be associating
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or being in the same photograph as
one of these guys.
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You're comfortable with that?
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I'm OK with that and I consider it's
my political superpower,
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I can talk to everyone.
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Anyway, well, they are citizen of
Russian Federation
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and if I want to fight Putin if I
want to be a leader
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of a country I cannot just ignore
the huge part of it.
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There are a lot of people who call
themselves nationalists.
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OK, let's discuss it.
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We're living in a country where they
are poisoning
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a politician and killing people.
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And arresting people for nothing.
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Of course, I am totally fine to sit
with a guy
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whose rally looks kind of not very
good for me.
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The Russian media didn't find
anything, and German investigators
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didn't have the jurisdiction.
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So we realized, there's nobody who's
actually
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going to actively investigate this.
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Unless we jump into this.
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We knew that the poison was Novichok
and Novichok we had proven
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in the previous investigation was
only manufactured
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in this facility called the Signal
Institute.
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The Signal Institute in Moscow works
under the guise of a RNB center that
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develops advanced forms of sports,
nutrition drinks.
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That's the legend.
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Yet, they employ for this work 12
scientists whose only
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experience and background is in
chemical weapons.
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Our hypothesis - this is the entity
that actually provides the poison
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for the killers who travel around
the world poisoning
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people with Novichok.
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So what we did was bought from the
Russian black market
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the phone records for the head of
the Signal Institute.
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We looked at numbers that only
appear just before
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the poisoning of Navalny and those
were suspicious.
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But, once we have a suspicious
number, you go through a number
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of Russian apps that allow you to
see how that phone
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number is listed in other people's
phonebooks.
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So, for example, I put in my number
and it will show up as Christo
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the journalist from Bellingcat,
because somebody would have
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put my name into their phonebook and
that description
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would have been shared into this
app.
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First number I looked up showed up
as Alexei, doctor from FSB.
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Well, that was interesting.
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But that was not enough.
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We couldn't place a real person
behind this name.
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Then, I would look up if this number
showed up in any car
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registration databases.
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And we found an actual Alexei
Alexandro who owns a car
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and this number was listed for
contacting this person.
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So then you have a real person with
a birthday.
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Then, you look up his passport file,
you see his face.
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You repeat that many times with the
other suspicious numbers,
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and then you have a shortlist of
interesting people.
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And these became our prime suspects.
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Now, we knew when Navalny had
travelled to Siberia.
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We had the actual passenger
manifests of six different flights
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that had flown into Novosibirsk
where Navalny flew from Moscow
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on the day before, during, and after
the day in
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which he arrived there.
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So, we needed to see if any of those
suspicious people travelled
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to Siberia at the time of the
poisoning, and
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we found an overlap.
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We found a nest of wasps we didn't
know existed.
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It's a domestic assassination
machine on an industrial scale.
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I was absolutely shocked that this
was so fast and the whole plot
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disentangled so quickly, so I just
reached out
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by Twitter and said "Alexei, I think
we may have found
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who poisoned you."
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After I went out of the hospital, I
decided to move into Black Forest
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and live in some small village.
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You can just walk for hours and not
meet any person at all.
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These are my German friends,
actually the little pony
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is my friend and donkey is Yulia's
friend.
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And this is the routine of our walk.
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Come here, my little pony.
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Isn't he sweet?
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Better than your donkey.
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Everybody likes the small pony, it's
like usual.
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You're scaring him.
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Go away.
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00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Aw, you poor guy.
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Donkey, hi.
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Of course, you like me.
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Come on, my mighty horse.
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Come here.
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More carrot.
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You'll grow big.
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They are cute, but they are not very
smart.
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00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:13,400
So, they decided for their fence not
to provide electricity.
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Yulia want an apple and asked me to
take it.
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But it's Germany, so it's someone's
apple.
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And there is a police over there.
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I'll come there when it will be
dark.
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And no police.
353
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,920
So, you're a Russian criminal who
arrived to Germany?
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No, it's OK.
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It belongs to I don't know.
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How do you know?
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Because it's open place.
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This is a very Russian style,
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00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,360
you know, of thinking about
property, like it
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belongs to everyone,
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because it's an open place.
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Just come and get it.
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The story of this guy who lives in
Vienna but is Bulgarian but works
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in Russia and that he has all of his
own money
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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,200
and he spends it all on
investigations in Russian crimes.
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He just sounded too suspicious.
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Too good to be true.
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00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,640
Too capable?
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He sounded a bit, you know, made up.
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Are you confident that he is not MI6
or CIA?
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I'm pretty confident.
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I wouldn't say I rule it out, but
I'm pretty
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confident that he's not.
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00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:02,840
I was suspicious about this guy from
Twitter.
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00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:10,360
I just saw his old laptop and all
these tables with data.
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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:18,320
Turns out, and I was very surprised
that the whole thing
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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,320
about Bellingcat is just one smart
guy, no CIA involved,
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no MI6.
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00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:35,920
He's just a nice and very kind
Bulgarian nerd with a laptop.
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Major tell me if you recognise any
of the people in the photographs.
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00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,160
Getting through emotionally to
Alexei was a piece of cake.
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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Took literally an hour.
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00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,880
Getting through to Maria took much
longer.
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She was very tough.
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She never smiled.
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She was the one vetting me, whether
I am a spy or not.
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00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,800
But we needed information that only
his team would be privy to.
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So we found a very workable
arrangement which was completely
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ethical and acceptable to us.
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00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,840
We agreed that Maria Pevchikh would
be working as part of our team
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and she would not be sharing with
Alexei all of the information
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in real time so that we wouldn't be
influenced by the bias
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00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,560
of the victim.
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When we discovered this clandestine
operation,
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it was so shocking that even to us
it looked unbelievable.
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I mean, come on, the government is
paying a whole team of 20
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plus people whose only job is to
poison other Russians?
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That sounds improbable.
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00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,440
So we needed other journalists to
look at it.
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I would like to share the limelight
with some global media
401
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,240
so that is validated by more than
just us.
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00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,160
So, CNN and Spiegal are fine with
you?
403
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,200
Yeah.
404
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,240
Absolutely.
405
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,040
That means we need to film exactly
like a week from now,
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00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
maybe like...
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00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,560
We had a nightmare trying to get
everybody to stick to the same time.
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It's all timed for a simultaneous
release.
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00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:35,840
All the media are going to drop the
bombshell simultaneously.
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00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:42,440
It's a huge debate as to whether
this was intended
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to incapacitate or kill.
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I would say kill, 100% kill.
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00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,720
If, for example, Navalny had laundry
returned to him while he was staying
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at the Tomsk Hotel the afternoon
before he left,
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would that be a point of access?
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00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,400
It's definitely a possibility.
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00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,920
The question is how well you can
dose the agent that way.
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You put, let's say 10 times the
deadly dose on the clothing.
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00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,000
You must be sure, however, that you
get at least one
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lethal dose into the body.
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Tomorrow we'll set up a phone with
fake ID.
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00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,800
So if we can call them through this
number we can try to prank them.
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00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Yes, of course.
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Navalny will call personally these
boys one by one
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00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,880
and we will record this.
426
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,920
Hi, this is Navalny.
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00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:41,080
You may remember me from trying to
kill me.
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00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Is it your contention that Vladimir
Putin must
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have been aware of this?
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00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Of course, 100% it could have not
happened without.
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00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,640
Who's the most stupid?
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00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,040
Most stupid of them?
433
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Well, definitely these are Spetsnaz
guys with no real training.
434
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,920
I think it makes sense to try to
prank stupid guys
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00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,880
and maybe these non-military guys.
436
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,800
When you were a kid, did you have
any political awareness?
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00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Was it a political family?
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00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Did your family talk about politics?
439
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:58,560
Yes, my family talks about politics
all the time and it was very,
440
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:05,080
They start talk much more after
Chernobyl disaster
441
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,680
because my father and his family,
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00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,200
they are from Chernobyl, from the
small village
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00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,600
two kilometres away.
444
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,280
And, I would say, ten kilometers
away from the nuclear station.
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00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,560
Everyone knows that there was an
explosion of a nuclear station,
446
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,960
but news keeping silence and so all
this nuclear
447
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:32,920
and radioactive dust was on these
fields and they were forced to go
448
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,320
and plant potatoes just to prevent
rumours, just to explain population
449
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,360
that everything is fine.
450
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,400
Everything is OK!
451
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,240
Go and work in the fields!
452
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:48,000
And, with the first appearance of
Putin on the screen, I just felt it.
453
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:55,600
I have this same feeling like I am
watching TV and I am watching
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political leader and he's looking
into my eyes and lying to me.
455
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:07,160
This is the biggest challenge for
me.
456
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,080
I tried to practice juggling about a
month
457
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,640
and because of coordination and
balancing video,
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00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,080
because you need some balancing
here,
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00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:22,520
I'm very bad in it.
460
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:28,360
I think he wants to make sure this
hits home in Russian media.
461
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,800
I mean, I think that's based on if
he does it.
462
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,960
So, we're not being journalists
reporting about some politician,
463
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,800
but we're reporting about a
politician who has his own
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00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,920
YouTube show with over 13 million
followers and considers himself
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half a journalist.
466
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,120
If
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00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,120
That's a very unusual situation that
doesn't make things easier.
468
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Mum, is this yours?
469
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,920
no, you have water.
470
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Hold my beer while I make a TikTok.
471
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,880
No, no, no.
472
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Just the second one you just are
filming me
473
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,000
and I must be horizontal.
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00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:27,240
MUSIC: How Bizarre.
475
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:28,280
Hold on.
476
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,720
Again.
477
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:30,920
You should remove second one.
478
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Oh, we can do that?
479
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,160
Yes, of course.
480
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,200
This is, you know...
481
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:42,160
I don't know, I don't know how to do
that.
482
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,720
You know that Christo call it
Moscow4.
483
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,160
Uh, you know what is Moscow4?
484
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,200
No.
485
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,560
What is that?
486
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,160
Well, their email of their very top
guy from intelligence was hacked
487
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,160
several times and his first password
was Moscow1 and they hacked him
488
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,960
so second his password was Moscow2
and they hacked him as well.
489
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,880
And so well the third time, he had
passcode Moscow3.
490
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,840
And just guess what was his fourth
password?
491
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:27,800
So Moscow4 is the explanation of the
stupidity of the system.
492
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:37,880
Dasha, could you take my phone and
be in the kitchen and pretend
493
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,120
you're General Bogdanov.
494
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:03,760
OK.
495
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,680
Super.
496
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,880
Super.
497
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:14,760
Tomorrow we will make these calls.
498
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,160
Honestly, I don't think it will work
because FSB guys.
499
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,840
They supposed to be resistant to
pranks.
500
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,800
But Moscow4, Moscow4.
501
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Ah, yes, and then we arrange to push
the button and everything will be
502
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,120
published exactly at 12.
503
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:37,080
And also, I will publish my TikTok I
recorded today.
504
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,680
And we'll have a kind of 15 minutes
of shame with it.
505
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,640
OK, see you tomorrow!
506
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,720
Hello.
507
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Now I totally feel like I am a
undercover
508
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,160
agent with the wired up.
509
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Are you not nervous?
510
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,240
Sorry?
511
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,280
Are you nervous?
512
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,320
No.
513
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,360
Please, come on.
514
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,320
A little bit.
515
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,320
He hung up.
516
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Oh, my God, you ruined their day.
517
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Not just today, I guess.
518
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,920
He hung up.
519
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Maybe try the prank way?
520
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,080
OK.
521
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,960
That was a freaking scared guy.
522
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,000
He recognised your voice?
523
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Yep, yep.
524
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Mikhail's not stupid.
525
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,240
I really think a scientist might
talk to you.
526
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,280
1% chance.
527
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,320
OK.
528
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:55,880
Let's, let's try to reach some
scientists.
529
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,480
How could you do this?
530
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,400
Yes, yes, yes.
531
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,440
So, now we know everything like
Moscow4.
532
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,520
Oh my locking god.
533
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Actually, he's not a muscle.
534
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,720
He's a chemist.
535
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:16,760
He's a chemist?
536
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Yes.
537
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,000
He spilled the whole story.
538
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,080
This is unbelievable.
539
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,080
Poor guy.
540
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,160
They will kill him.
541
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,360
They will kill him, literally.
542
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,760
I think you'll be president,
seriously, after this.
543
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,640
They will definitely kill him.
544
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Poor Kudryavtsev.
545
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,840
Poor Kudryavtsev, yes.
546
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,480
He's a dead man.
547
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,680
Let's offer him to defect.
548
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,360
Let's arrange for him the whole
thing.
549
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,880
Seriously.
550
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,680
Cos I think that's a humanitarian
thing to do.
551
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,720
He will be in a ditch by tomorrow.
552
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:49,760
They'll just kill him.
553
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,800
No, no, no.
554
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,880
They will kill him.
555
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,000
OK, well Spiegel has been begging me
to call them since the morning
556
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Can I tell them this already?
557
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Confidentially?
558
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,520
Let's just decide.
559
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,200
Are we going to publish this
conversation?
560
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,680
Yeah.
561
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,520
Because I think we should wait for
A...
562
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,560
Putin's press
563
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,760
conference, at the very least.
564
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,800
Sorry?
565
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,720
To Putin's press conference, at the
very least.
566
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:17,160
It is on Wednesday, or Thursday?
567
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,200
Thursday.
568
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,120
Seventeenth.
569
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,280
Christo, before pushing this button,
I want to say
570
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,320
that was amazing job.
571
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Thank you everyone for your
contribution, guys.
572
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,480
Yeah!
573
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:29,840
High-five.
574
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:42,200
Now, an exclusive investigation can
reveal a top secret mission.
575
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,840
An elite team of operatives have
been tracking Navalny's every move
576
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,800
for more than three years.
577
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,880
Oh, thank you so much.
578
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,720
It's an honour for me to be on such
a big television of Spain and I'm
579
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,880
very pleased you are paying
attention to this situation.
580
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,120
So, thank you very much.
581
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,360
This scheme, which looks like it's
from the movies,
582
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:17,320
but in this particular case it's a
real scheme,
583
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,600
with real people,
584
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,000
Putin on the very top.
585
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,160
In mid-August, Navalny and his team
traveled to Siberia.
586
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,040
At least five members of the FSB
unit make the same journey
587
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,080
on different flights.
588
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,120
Thank you very much.
589
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,000
Back in Tomsk there was a surge in
communications among the FSB
590
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,880
unit and their bosses.
591
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:39,880
If it was expected that Navalny
would die on the flight,
592
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,000
they were now scrambling to deal
with a very different situation.
593
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,640
We enter a rundown apartment
building on the outskirts of Moscow
594
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,000
where operative Oleg Tayakin lives.
595
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,760
My name is Clarissa Ward and I'm
with CNN.
596
00:59:53,760 --> 01:00:00,080
Can I ask you a couple of questions?
597
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,480
So, you've said that you want to go
back to Russia?
598
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,360
You're aware of the risks of going
back?
599
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,400
Definitely.
600
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:17,960
Why do you want to go back?
601
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,840
I don't want this, you know, group
of killers exist in Russia.
602
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,920
I don't want Putin being president.
603
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,360
I don't want him being tsar.
604
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,000
So I want to go back and try to
change it.
605
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:34,160
So, this is fantastic piece.
606
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,560
He opened his mouth to American
songs.
607
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,840
On TikTok.
608
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:23,840
They are lying.
609
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,440
This is crazy stuff, huh.
610
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,400
Crazy, funny stuff like, who's he?
611
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,280
But think about it, they're talking
about this all the time.
612
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,960
They talk about you.
613
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,000
This is very funny.
614
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,640
But the main point is they have a
big problem otherwise
615
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,120
they would not launch it.
616
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,840
Right, right.
617
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,240
They allowed the state number one
channel that has never
618
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,400
mentioned his name to only talk
about him now.
619
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,440
Yes, you're absolutely right.
620
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,640
This is a main point.
621
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,600
It's not affordable for them to keep
silence.
622
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,960
No, no.
623
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,640
She plays chess better than all
others in our family.
624
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,040
Better than everyone in our family
and because of this
625
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,480
series Queen's Gambit, she's
demanding that
626
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,760
everyone should play chess.
627
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,320
But nobody is playing.
628
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,400
That is why I'm playing with the
phone.
629
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,000
Well, I definitely prefer Call of
Duty.
630
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,800
I definitely prefer chess.
631
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:34,200
I prefer shopping.
632
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,880
Ready for a 12-hour flight.
633
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:10,160
We have to sit down for good luck.
634
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,360
Starting from 13 years old, I would
think about, what would I do
635
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:42,320
if my dad was killed?
636
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,360
Whenever I had, like, the talk, it's
not
637
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:58,320
anything you can sit at the table
and discuss.
638
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,840
So, it's nice for you for you,
Dasha, to see the snow,
639
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,960
so much snow before you go to LA,
right?
640
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,440
There is snow in California.
641
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,560
There was a point a year ago, where
my dad was almost not
642
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,000
there for my high school graduation.
643
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,160
He was in jail once again and, like,
the whole day I was just thinking
644
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,600
about how my dad would've been...
645
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:19,640
I'm sorry.
646
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,480
My dad would've been proud to see me
walk on the stage
647
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,640
and get my certificate.
648
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,800
And he wouldn't get that option,
because he was in jail
649
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,760
for doing the right thing.
650
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:44,280
I know that my dad misses Russia,
even though it's scary to go back.
651
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,400
And if he didn't go back, I would
say, you need
652
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,360
to go back and fight.
653
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,680
It's something worth fighting for.
654
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:50,120
His favourite, favourite answer for
everything is CIA.
655
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,760
Great, great, great, great, great.
656
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,960
Because this is just amazing pass to
us.
657
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,560
Now, we can uphold, because he said,
well,
658
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,920
if we want to poison him, of course,
we would
659
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:33,920
have poisoned him.
660
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:41,680
So, just, we will, I mean, the whole
argumentation we will smash it.
661
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,680
I'm just very curious how people
will react to it,
662
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,280
whether they will be as astonished
as we are, hopefully.
663
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,320
Because nothing like that's ever
happened to anyone.
664
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,240
OK, The Insider is up.
665
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,560
Oh, that's totally unbelievable.
666
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:35,160
I would never believe it if I wasn't
part of it.
667
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:42,920
300.
668
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:49,560
300,000 views for 20 minutes.
669
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,760
One hour later.
670
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,000
1 million views.
671
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,920
The poisoning of dissident Alexei
Navalny has taken
672
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,120
an even more bizarre turn.
673
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,000
If this was a Hollywood movie you
would say it was over
674
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,440
the top, but this is not.
675
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,080
This is real and boy, does this
conversation punch a giant
676
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,040
hole in the Kremlin's narrative.
677
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,280
Surely, this is hugely embarrassing
for the Kremlin and for the FSB.
678
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:26,760
Oh, absolutely.
679
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,120
It's embarrassing for Mr
680
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,560
Kudryavstev, it's embarrassing for
the FSB.
681
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,880
It's embarrassing for the Kremlin.
682
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,520
The FSB has said that the video of
the conversation posted
683
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,160
on Navalny's YouTube channel was
fake and that the phone call
684
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,080
was a provocation aimed at
discrediting the agency.
685
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,400
Navalny is suffering from delusion
of persecution.
686
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,520
Otherwise, there's a Freudian
fixation on his own crotch area,
687
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:50,600
which is probably how all of this
should probably be treated.
688
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,600
How is President Navalny different
than President Putin?
689
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,360
Well, my major task as a president
just to prevent, you know,
690
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,360
this damn circle of really
over-established
691
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:37,440
authoritarian regime.
692
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:39,600
In authoritarian country, you either
with an authoritarian leader
693
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:47,560
or against an authoritarian leader.
694
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,000
So, we are in more primitive
politics, like human rights,
695
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,280
freedom of speech, fair election.
696
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,120
The tax money is supposed to belong
to the local
697
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:07,080
communities and, in Russia,
everything is decided in Moscow.
698
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,840
So, being a president just having
this, you know, big pie
699
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:18,000
of my power and I will cut it for
the future of Russia.
700
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,240
I apologise, I am sorry for the
record that five minutes ago
701
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,600
I told Daniel to get the lock out of
here with his camera so,
702
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,520
I apologise for that, because well,
well everything
703
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,640
is like, everything is happening in
the last ten minutes and I have
704
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,920
to make like a millions of emails.
705
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:21,960
And...
706
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,000
Leonid have a seat.
707
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,040
Maria have a seat.
708
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:30,760
You make me nervous because you're
standing over me, sorry.
709
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:55,920
Sorry, I have to sit.
710
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:03,880
It's a Russian superstition, but
it's important.
711
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,560
Dear citizens, please leave the
area.
712
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,280
Only ticked passengers allowed.
713
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,920
Since Navalny decided to come back,
we have to greet him
714
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,080
because he is now the symbol of
Russia's freedom.
715
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,040
In a few minutes, we will begin our
final descent.
716
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:30,680
Alexei, a comment please.
717
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:37,040
Alexei will not be making any
comments now.
718
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,040
Hello, may I take a selfie?
719
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,800
The anti-why police showed up and
are just arresting everybody,
720
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,240
including journalists live on the
air.
721
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,280
This is crazy.
722
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,360
Jesus.
723
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,320
I've never seen anything like this.
724
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,160
There's no way they're not going to
arrest him.
725
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,040
I don't think they will let him come
close to the front.
726
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,680
I think they're going to yank him
away before anybody else
727
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,640
is let off the plane.
728
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,040
This is the plane and this is
Moscow.
729
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,560
And this is the plane, and this is
Moscow.
730
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,360
They realised it's not possible to
control the crowd
731
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:37,800
and they chicked out.
732
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:18,840
White Max
733
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:37,080
Chanting.
734
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:35,640
CHANTING.
735
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,240
Alexei, if you are arrested and
thrown in prison
736
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,760
or the unthinkable happens and
you're killed, what message
737
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:55,720
do you leave behind to the Russian
people?
738
01:30:55,720 --> 01:31:01,680
My message, for the situation that I
am killed, is very
739
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:07,600
simple - not give up.
740
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:14,160
Do me a favour, answer this one in
Russian.
58622
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