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Narrator:
In 1996,
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a Florida couple
was horrified
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when their dog dragged home
a ghastly surprise.
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It was a human skull.
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It was the first
in a series
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of unspeakable
discoveries
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in backyards
of Florida homes.
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John Jaccoud:
He was just disfigured.
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I never seen anything like it.
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Bob Norman:
Everyone in Southwest Florida
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is wondering
where this monster is.
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And the unimaginable
only got worse.
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When I got closer I could see
his genitals had been removed.
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I was really concerned
'cause now we have two bodies.
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It was a race against time.
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Michael Gandy:
We went all out in a 24-hour,
seven-day-a-week
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surveillance on this guy.
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We had a serial killer.
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And if he gets away from us
and kills again,
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how do you live with that?
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Susan and Wayne Brown
were up with the sun
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on the first day of 1996,
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enjoying the solitude
that came with living
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in a secluded part
of North Port, Florida.
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Susan Brown:
It was 5:30,
6:00 in the morning.
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We have two hunting dogs.
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Like he does every morning,
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my husband let the dogs
out of the dog pen.
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( dogs barking )
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It was when they get out
of the pen,
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my husband saw the dogs
very curious about something
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at the base of a palm tree.
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So he went over there
to investigate.
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( husband screams )
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Husband:
Susan!
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Brown:
I was in the kitchen,
I could hear him.
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I was thinking, "Oh, my God,
what is happening to him?"
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At that point,
I ran down and looked
to see what was going on.
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I went over there to the base
of the palm tree to look
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and there it was.
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A human skull.
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My first initial thought was
just, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!"
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And I thought,
"What's happening?"
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And he goes,
"We need to call the police."
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Man over radio:
Six, six, seven.
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Officers were quick to get
to the Browns' backyard.
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And the more they heard,
the stranger the couple's
story became.
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Brown:
We told them the dogs had
been bringing bones home
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for about a month.
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Been picking them up
in the yard.
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And it's like,
"Well, they got a dear,
or somebody dumped a cow,
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or somebody's horse just died
and they couldn't bury it
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so they, you know,
dumped it out there."
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Narrator:
When investigators
examined the bones,
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they came
to a gruesome conclusion.
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Brown:
They found arm bones,
leg bones,
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a lot of little bones.
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They were human.
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The horror sank in.
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Who had been
so grossly disposed of
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in the backyard
of their Florida home?
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I had no idea
where those bones came from.
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Rickey Hobbs:
North Port Police Department,
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they went back into the woods,
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where they found the rest
of the remains.
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The remains were decomposed.
They were just basically bones.
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They did not find
any clothing.
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They didn't find
any personal items.
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They didn't find anything
except the bones.
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Gandy:
My gut told me
that we got a problem.
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And it doesn't take a rocket
scientist, I guess,
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but it was scary.
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Narrator:
It didn't take long
for news of the bones
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in the Browns' backyard
to spread through the quiet
town of North Port.
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This case was shocking
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to everyone
in Southwest Florida.
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It's a place where people
go to retire.
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They go there
to enjoy the water.
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It's beautiful.
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So there was a real feeling
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of pall in the air.
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Nobody had a clue.
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It's all speculation,
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and no one's gonna be able
to recognize that person,
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and it presents
a whole slew of challenges.
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Hobbs:
The medical examiner's office
came out.
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He collected the bones
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and transported them back
to his office for examination.
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Medical examiner determined
that that was a white male.
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He was probably
25 to 35 years old,
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about six foot three,
heavy build.
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Narrator:
While the medical examiner
couldn't determine
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exactly how the victim died,
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he did declare it
a homicide
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when a disturbing clue
emerged.
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A series of knife marks
on the pelvic bones.
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We were really concerned,
at this point.
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Who was behind
the grisly crime?
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Hobbs: Initially
in any investigation,
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everybody's a suspect
until you prove otherwise.
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Suddenly, Susan and Wayne
were being eyed
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as potential suspects.
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( indistinct radio chatter )
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Brown:
The police came,
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you know, guns drawn
and sneaking up in the yard.
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Then they started
questioning me.
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"Where were you?"
"I was at work."
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"Where do you work?"
"Local hospital."
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( indistinct radio chatter )
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They were suspicious of us
because we did not call 9-1-1.
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We called the regular
police number,
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and that we were very calm
when we called.
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Hobbs:
Local law enforcement
interviewed the Browns,
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and through their interviews
and their questions,
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they eliminate them
as any suspects.
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Just crazy.
Just crazy.
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We knew we were innocent.
What are you gonna do?
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Narrator:
If the Browns were innocent,
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how did the human remains
end up in their backyard?
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And how long
had they been there?
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Hobbs:
At that point we didn't know
who the person was.
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All they knew was
it was homicidal violence.
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North Port Police Department
interviewed everyone they can
as far as leads.
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They checked the Missing Persons
and tried to identify them
that way,
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but they come up empty.
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Brown:
You know, there's
a mother out there,
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and you know he's got family
somewhere.
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Whatever happened to him?
It's sad.
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( siren blaring )
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Narrator:
Four months
into that investigation,
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detectives Ricky Hobbs
and Mike Gandy answered
an alarming call
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30 miles away in neighboring
Charlotte County.
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There had been another
terrifying discovery
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in the backyard of
a new housing development.
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I learned two county employees
were taking a break or something
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but they were just walking
around in the wooded area
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from a nearby paved road.
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And they stumbled
upon a skull.
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Norman:
It's out in the middle
of nowhere,
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and it's just not a place
that people go very often.
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Hobbs:
When I responded
I went into the woods
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and went back about 50
or 100 feet
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and that's where
the skull by itself
was laying on the ground.
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Gandy:
We went in and started to look
around a little bit
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and then I found the torso
of a human being.
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We assumed that that torso
went with the skull
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that was found
by the county workers.
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Just from experience,
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we knew that the torso
was there a week or so
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or maybe a little longer.
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Narrator:
There was no telling what other
horrors awaited detectives
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in the backyard
of this development.
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Not too far away,
I found the remains of a pelvis.
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Though seasoned detectives,
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it was impossible
for Gandy and Hobbs
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to make sense of the scene.
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And with each step,
it became more surreal.
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I saw something
off in the distance
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about a hundred feet
that caught my eye.
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And as I approached this thing
under the tree,
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I could see a--
part of a hand sticking out.
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Just the fingertips.
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So I didn't know whether I had
a homeless guy there.
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It appeared to be a carpet
padding laying on top of him.
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As I got closer,
I could see
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what appeared to be blood
on the hand.
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And I called out
to Lieutenant Gandy,
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"Hey, I've got something
over here."
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I lifted up the edge
of the carpet padding,
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and what we had
was another body.
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Body of a white male.
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He was what we call fresh.
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Only been there
10 or 12 hours.
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He had ligature marks
around his wrists.
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Ligature marks
around his neck,
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and ligature marks
around his legs.
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Narrator:
And what detectives discovered
next was ghastly.
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Gandy:
He was completely nude
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and his genitals had
been surgically removed.
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Norman:
There was a grisly murderer
out there
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who was tying people up
to trees.
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Where nobody
could hear you scream.
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Narrator:
In 1996, after a dog
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Narrator:
In 1996, after a dog
dug up a human skull
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in a North Port,
Florida backyard,
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investigators unearthed
the remains
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of an unidentified victim.
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Four months later, detectives
in neighboring Charlotte County
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discovered the gruesome remains
of two more bodies
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in the backyard
of a new housing development.
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As I got closer, I could see
his genitals had been removed.
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Gandy:
I've done this
for a long time
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and I've seen some
pretty bad things.
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This ranks up there
with the top of them.
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Hobbs:
Our theories on why
the genitals were removed
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was that they're taken
to remove evidence.
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If you're performing
a sex act on someone,
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you're gonna leave DNA.
You're gonna leave something.
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So by removing
that particular item,
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you're not leaving
any evidence.
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Gandy:
It was scary to know
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that we were dealing with
someone capable of doing that.
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And it made me wonder
how difficult it was gonna be
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to catch this person.
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Narrator:
A skull, a torso,
and a fresh body.
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Were the remains
of these two victims
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the work
of one ruthless killer?
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Or was this simply
a gruesome dumping ground?
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Gandy:
The fresh body that we found
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had just been put there
maybe the night before.
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Narrator:
Who fell prey to these
atrocious crimes?
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Investigators worked quickly
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to identify
the most recent victim.
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Hobbs:
Well, we were able to recover
fingerprints from the victim.
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We were able to take those
fingerprints
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and run them
through a database.
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And when we did that,
we got a hit that they matched
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a white male identified
as Richard Montgomery.
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Jaccoud:
None of us could
really believe it.
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You know, I think
it took a while to sink in.
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The pictures
still haunt me.
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He was just disfigured.
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I never seen
anything like it.
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( sniffling )
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Badly beaten.
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Narrator:
Just 21 years old.
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Richard Montgomery
was barely an adult.
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News of his senseless murder
crushed his family and friends,
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especially his buddy,
John Jaccoud.
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( crying )
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I mean,
I can't talk about it.
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It's been really hard
on me.
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Rich was living with his sister
and his brother-in-law
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and they had a young child.
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And they, uh,
they took care of Rich.
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They all took care
of each other, really.
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Oh, Rich was such
a great uncle.
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You know, and he's always
eager to help the family,
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and he was there for them.
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Narrator:
Like most kids his age,
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Rich hustled through life
always chasing a buck.
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Jaccoud:
He was very eager
to make money.
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You know, there were some
construction jobs and things.
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You know, but this,
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to contribute and help out
with the family.
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Narrator:
Mostly, John and Rich were
just a couple of kids
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without a care in the world.
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We'd talk about cars
and jobs and girls
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and things that 20-year-old
people talked about back then.
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He was, you know,
tall, thin, good hair.
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He was really good
with the women.
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They loved the way he was.
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He was just so full of life
and people--
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all people loved him,
you know.
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We just wondered
how something like that
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could even happen
to Richard.
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He just did not deserve it.
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Narrator:
As Rich's family and friends
struggle to figure out
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why such a loved guy
was so viciously murdered,
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investigators
were desperate for answers
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to these grisly crimes.
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They started by trying
to identify the victim
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found in the same yard
as Rich.
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These two bodies that we found
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were probably feet away.
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When the torso was found,
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the back tissue
was still there.
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It was kind of preserved because
it was laying on the ground.
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When they rolled the torso over,
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there was a tattoo
still visible on the back.
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We basically made
that tattoo public
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to try to find out anybody know
a person that has this tattoo.
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Narrator:
It was a bewildering case
for investigators,
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who needed to act fast
to catch a killer.
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But first they had
to meticulously comb
through the crime scene.
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Hobbs:
We're probably not gonna find
anything that's gonna jump out
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and say, "You got it."
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It's gonna be microscopic.
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So we gotta be very careful
on what we collect,
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how we collect it,
how we process the bodies.
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Gandy:
We did not find any clothing
in the area.
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We did not find
any murder weapon.
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We only could assume
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that the person responsible
for murdering these people
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took their clothing
with them.
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Narrator:
Hours into their
painstaking search,
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the detectives finally
discovered a possible clue
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on the mutilated body
of Richard Montgomery.
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When he was swabbed,
they found a paint chip
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down by his hip.
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Narrator:
The paint chip was collected
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along with other fibers
and hairs.
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Until the evidence
was analyzed,
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detectives could only hope
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it would provide a link
to the killer.
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But a search of the backyard
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did reveal an even
more perverse MO.
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We were able to find rope marks
on the trees.
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Hobbs:
You consider
the victim's height,
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the victim had ligature marks,
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at the same levels
as the trees,
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like people were tied to it.
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And he was rubbing
into the tree.
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We've got a person who's
basically tortured these people.
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Narrator:
Within hours,
word of the horrific scene
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was circulating
through the community
of Charlotte County.
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Norman:
As the facts trickled in,
we were all wondering,
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"Who is doing this?
What is happening"
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They just knew that
there was a grisly murderer
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out there somewhere who was
tying people up to trees
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out in the middle of nowhere.
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Where nobody
could hear you scream.
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Narrator:
As detectives began piecing
together clues
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about this crime scene,
they suddenly recalled
the bones
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found four months earlier
in a North Port backyard.
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Hobbs:
I called North Port PD.
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And told them, I said, "Hey,
look, we got two more bodies."
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At that point
we started comparing notes.
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On our crime scenes,
on our victims,
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and everything seemed
to be the same thing
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on all three bodies.
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They were all laid out
in the woods.
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They were all naked
with no clothing, no belongings.
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Narrator:
Was it possible all three
deaths were the work
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of the same sadistic killer?
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We went back out
to the Browns' backyard,
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and looked around and we found
the same ligature marks
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on the trees up in North Port.
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Narrator:
In an instant,
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the detectives greatest fear
was realized.
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Now what we have
is a known serial killer,
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and we know
that it's gonna happen again
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if we don't catch this person.
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Narrator:
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Narrator:
In the spring of 1996,
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investigators
in southwestern Florida
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had a serial killer
on their hands
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when bones and mutilated bodies
started turning up
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in rural backyards.
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To catch the person
behind the horrific deaths,
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investigators first needed
to know who was being targeted.
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21-year-old
Richard Montgomery
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was their only
identified victim.
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Gandy:
We found out Richard didn't
have a lot of money.
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His family didn't
have a lot of money.
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Hobbs:
He drank a lot.
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He stayed wherever
he happened to be that time.
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But he had a group of friends
that he would hang out with.
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Jaccoud:
Last time I saw Richard
he was just hanging out.
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It was just like a normal night.
He might've had a couple beers.
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And I think someone busted
his chops a little bit
about money, you know.
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Richard just told us
that he had a way to make money.
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Hobbs: He told his friend
he had a gig where he was
gonna go make $200
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real quick and he'd be back
in a couple hours.
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Jaccoud:
He didn't give any details
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and he really was
very vague about it.
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It didn't seem like
it was a big deal, you know.
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Hobbs:
The last time Richard was seen
was by a couple friends of his.
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He was standing
on Royal Road and 41
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like he was waiting
for somebody.
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Narrator:
Rich's trail went cold
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on the side
of that rural road.
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Investigators began
to speculate.
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Did someone persuade Richard
to meet up
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with a promise
of a paying job?
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And was that person
his killer?
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Gandy:
While we were working
on this case,
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we would update the media
as much as possible,
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and keep the public informed
and to generate leads.
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Narrator:
The publicity turned up
a critical lead
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about the tattooed torso
found near Richard's body
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in the backyard
of a housing development
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when a frantic mother reached
out to detectives.
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Hobbs:
We received a call
from a lady
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who said that she hadn't heard
from her son for a while
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and he had a tattoo like that.
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And we were able to identify
that it was Kenny Smith.
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Narrator:
25-year-old Kenny Smith had
recently moved to the area
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from Naples, Florida.
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Hobbs:
He would stay
at flophouses, missions,
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do anything for a beer.
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Narrator:
Though the bones found
in the Browns' backyard
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had yet to be identified,
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a victim profile appeared
to be emerging.
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Young, impressionable white men
eager to earn a buck.
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Much like Richard Montgomery.
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It appears he lured most
of his victims with money.
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Gandy:
Some of the victims because
of they're being transient,
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they would do things
to make money and so forth.
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Jaccoud:
Richard might not have been
the smartest guy, you know,
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and he was easily persuaded,
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but he wasn't looking
to get in trouble, you know.
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But just very eager
to make money.
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Narrator:
The urgency to solve and stop
these killings was palpable.
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And investigators quickly
set up a task force.
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The criminal profiler
came down,
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reviewed all of our evidence
and our pictures,
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and determined,
in his opinion,
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that the same person was
responsible for all the crimes.
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He said he was most likely
a sexual sadist.
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Basically someone
who gets sexual arousal
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from everything
that he's doing to these
other individuals.
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Narrator:
For weeks, detectives Gandy
and Hobbs worked tirelessly
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to catch a presumed
serial killer.
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Everyone in Southwest Florida
is looking at each other
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and wondering
where this monster is.
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Narrator:
With every dead-end lead,
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investigators fear the killer
might strike again.
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And then a tip
from an unlikely source
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broke the case wide open.
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Hobbs:
David Payton was an inmate
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at the Marion County
Correctional Institute.
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What Payton told investigators
was that he was down
at Fort Myers.
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And a guy pulled up,
offered him some beer,
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and they got in the car
and started driving away.
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Gandy:
David Payton said the person
that picked him up,
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he gave him some beer,
he gave him some Valium,
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he gave him some marijuana.
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And then he said the man
offered to pay him
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for nude photographs
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with some bondage,
being tied to trees.
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Narrator:
Eager to make a few bucks,
Payton went along with it.
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Payton says that he made
a turn down a road
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and then cut back
into the woods.
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Moments later, the car hit
a mud puddle and got stuck.
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Hobbs:
Payton had asked, "Well, I can
go back there and push it out."
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He said the subject's demeanor
totally changed.
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Very authoritative,
"No, you stay here."
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Narrator:
The man barked at Payton
to get behind the wheel,
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while he got out to push.
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That's when Payton
made a terrifying discovery.
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Payton looked around
the backseat of the car.
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That's when he saw a rope,
saw a tarp,
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and a knife on the floor.
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Now he's concerned.
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He came to realize
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that this was not
about photography.
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This was about violence.
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This was about murder.
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As soon as they pushed it
out of the hole,
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Mr. Payton just floored it
and took off.
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He said he was afraid
for his life.
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Narrator:
Payton's head was spinning
with fear, booze, and drugs
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when he was pulled over
by the cops in Fort Myers.
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By the time he was found,
the car had been reported
stolen.
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That's what Mr. Payton
was charged with, that and DUI.
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Narrator:
Payton tried to explain
his harrowing ordeal
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to the officers.
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Hobbs:
Mr. Payton had a fairly
extensive record.
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They didn't believe him.
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After we learned
this incredible story,
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we did a little bit
of research.
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Narrator:
The car had been reported
stolen hours earlier.
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The car was actually reported
stolen through Charlotte County.
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So I went back,
found Mr. Payton's arrest,
pulled the reports,
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and the car belonged
to a Daniel Conahan, Sr.
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But the person that reported it
stolen was Daniel
Conahan, Jr.
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Narrator:
They learned 42-year-old
Daniel Conahan, Jr.
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was a former navy man
who moved to Florida
from Chicago
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and lived with his parents
in upscale Punta Gorda.
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We ran a background check
on Daniel Conahan.
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He had been in the military.
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He had had a dishonorable
discharge.
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Hobbs:
We spoke with the naval
criminal investigation service.
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Come to find out he had
had two investigations.
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He had been out on the beach,
supposedly approached
some other sailors,
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and hit a guy with a rock.
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For us it was a red flag.
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Now we've got some indicators
there's some violence.
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Gandy:
We learned that he had
employment at a local hospital
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as a licensed practical nurse.
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Once we learned that he had
a medical background,
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the thought crossed our mind
about the genital mutilation.
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And how clean
the incisions were.
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Hobbs:
Now I'm thinking
we've got a suspect
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who could be responsible
for what's going on.
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Narrator:
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Narrator:
After hearing a bizarre story
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Narrator:
After hearing a bizarre story
from inmate David Payton,
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investigators were eyeing
42-year-old local nurse,
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Daniel Conahan, Jr.,
as a possible serial killer.
484
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,300
After they learned Conahan's
violent past,
485
00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:23,170
investigators turned
to an old friend of his
486
00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:26,696
for more evidence
he might be their guy.
487
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:29,700
Hobbs:
We tracked down one of
Mr. Conahan's old roommates.
488
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:32,270
And during his interview,
489
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:36,300
he had indicated that one
of Mr. Conahan's fantasies
490
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:39,200
was having to do
with sexual bondage.
491
00:25:45,333 --> 00:25:50,273
Gandy:
If Conahan was the guy,
he's gonna kill again.
492
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,030
So we could not
let that happen.
493
00:25:52,066 --> 00:25:54,126
So we went all out
in a 24-hour,
494
00:25:54,166 --> 00:25:56,226
seven-day-a-week surveillance
on this guy.
495
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:09,200
Hobbs:
We wanted to see where he goes,
what he does, who he contacts.
496
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,000
Gandy:
The first goal is to see
if we can catch him
497
00:26:13,033 --> 00:26:16,433
trying to hurt someone
or establish what
his pattern is.
498
00:26:16,467 --> 00:26:19,327
To see if his pattern
would match the MO
499
00:26:19,333 --> 00:26:24,333
of what we believed we had
with these murders.
500
00:26:24,367 --> 00:26:27,467
Narrator:
Dozens of eyes followed
Conahan's every move.
501
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,430
It was a time consuming
process, but it paid off
502
00:26:30,467 --> 00:26:34,427
when the team began noticing
his strange patterns.
503
00:26:34,467 --> 00:26:36,767
Making U-turns,
and right turns, left turns.
504
00:26:36,767 --> 00:26:39,027
Just to make sure nobody
was following him.
505
00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:42,596
Gandy:
He would drive
through homeless areas
506
00:26:42,633 --> 00:26:44,233
where transients
would hang out,
507
00:26:44,233 --> 00:26:46,103
bus stations,
anywhere he could
508
00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:48,273
to make contact with people
that were on the street.
509
00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:52,603
Hobbs:
We think that he was doing that
to find people
510
00:26:52,633 --> 00:26:54,233
who wouldn't be missed.
511
00:26:57,767 --> 00:26:59,697
Narrator:
Conahan's patterns
were suspicious
512
00:26:59,734 --> 00:27:02,434
and aligned with what
investigators were looking for.
513
00:27:02,467 --> 00:27:04,527
Gandy:
He made contact with several
different people.
514
00:27:04,533 --> 00:27:07,273
And of course that would get
everybody's hair
515
00:27:07,266 --> 00:27:10,396
on the back of their neck
raising, because we were scared.
516
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,100
"Oh, my God, is he gonna
pick this guy up?"
517
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:16,103
Mr. Conahan was a hunter.
518
00:27:16,133 --> 00:27:20,103
It was almost like
he was a starving animal
looking for food.
519
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:25,526
Narrator:
Detectives needed
to come up with a plan.
520
00:27:25,533 --> 00:27:27,773
And designed one
that was risky,
521
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,100
but could ultimately
bait Conahan into a trap.
522
00:27:33,233 --> 00:27:36,633
Gandy:
Once we found out
what Conahan was looking for,
523
00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:40,027
we decided that we would
put out some decoys.
524
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,770
And we did that
in several places
525
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,100
where we knew
Conahan hunted.
526
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:52,300
My supervisor came to me
and asked me to do
some undercover work.
527
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:56,300
I was asked because I fit
the profile
528
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,300
of the last known victim.
529
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:03,270
The last victim
was similar to my age.
530
00:28:08,166 --> 00:28:09,666
We were already
surveilling the suspect,
531
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:12,670
so we knew that he went
into the park.
532
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:14,670
I knew what he looked like.
533
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,400
So, I just went on foot
with a hidden bug on me,
534
00:28:18,433 --> 00:28:21,573
and tried to make
contact with him.
535
00:28:21,567 --> 00:28:25,297
Narrator:
The undercover team anticipated
a long anxious night.
536
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:28,200
but Clemens was in the park
mere minutes
537
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,070
when thing started
heating up.
538
00:28:31,066 --> 00:28:35,066
Scott Clemens:
I went into the bathroom and
basically as I was walking out,
539
00:28:35,066 --> 00:28:37,196
Daniel Conahan
was walking in.
540
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,030
And as soon as he saw me,
541
00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:41,766
he turned around and walked
right back out and followed me.
542
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,000
He was on me right away.
543
00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:49,673
Kinda walked slowly
and he approached me,
544
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,600
and we just started
making small talk.
545
00:28:52,633 --> 00:28:54,603
I made up a name
546
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,270
and told him that I had taken
a bus from Georgia,
547
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,000
and I wasn't familiar
with the area.
548
00:29:00,033 --> 00:29:02,603
I didn't have
any family here.
549
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,600
We just walked together
side by side,
550
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,170
just chatting, small talk.
551
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,570
The vibe that
I was getting from him
552
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,730
was that he was
interested in me.
553
00:29:15,467 --> 00:29:18,097
He was obviously familiar
with the park
554
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:22,630
because he led me
to about the deepest
portion of the park.
555
00:29:22,633 --> 00:29:26,633
And then he asked me
if I ever hustled before.
556
00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:28,633
I said,
"Yes, of course."
557
00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:31,633
And then he propositioned me
for sex.
558
00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:35,333
Basically asked me if I wanted
to make a quick 20 bucks.
559
00:29:39,233 --> 00:29:41,373
Of course I said yes,
560
00:29:41,367 --> 00:29:43,497
because if I would've said no
it would've been suspicious.
561
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:46,730
I asked him to see the $20
and he said he didn't have it.
562
00:29:46,767 --> 00:29:49,427
Then at that time
he wanted the two of us
563
00:29:49,467 --> 00:29:52,197
to go for a ride
to the ATM,
564
00:29:52,233 --> 00:29:54,203
and then we would get
the money.
565
00:29:54,233 --> 00:29:56,773
We did not want Scotty to get
into the car with him,
566
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,330
because we could
not control that.
567
00:29:58,367 --> 00:30:00,667
Hobbs:
That was nerve-racking.
568
00:30:00,667 --> 00:30:03,627
We're close by but we're not
standing right there with him.
569
00:30:03,667 --> 00:30:06,627
And he's not armed.
570
00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:08,527
Narrator:
Clemens didn't get
into the car,
571
00:30:08,533 --> 00:30:12,503
and coyly asked Daniel
what else he'd like.
572
00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:15,673
Clemens:
He wanted to take
naked pictures of me
573
00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:17,527
and he would pay me.
574
00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:19,733
And he wanted to do this
in the woods,
575
00:30:19,767 --> 00:30:21,397
and he explained to me
576
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,470
that there would be bondage.
577
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Yeah, I'm thinking,
"Wow, this is the exact same MO
578
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,700
that he was doing
to these other victims.
579
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,530
Hobbs:
We were afraid that if
he felt something was wrong
580
00:30:34,567 --> 00:30:37,227
that he could just go off
and do something real quick.
581
00:30:39,033 --> 00:30:40,733
That would harm
the detective.
582
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:50,500
Narrator:
583
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:51,030
Narrator:
On a hot and humid
584
00:30:51,033 --> 00:30:51,273
Narrator:
On a hot and humid
Florida night,
585
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,270
an elaborate undercover
operation was reaching
a pivotal moment.
586
00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:01,570
Undercover cop Scott Clemens
just lured suspected
serial killer
587
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,500
Daniel Conahan, Jr.,
into his trap.
588
00:31:04,533 --> 00:31:09,303
He told me that he wanted
to take pictures of me naked,
589
00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:12,403
and he wanted to take them
in the woods.
590
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,170
At the time,
our policy was, you know,
you can't get naked.
591
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000
So I told him
I didn't have time,
592
00:31:21,033 --> 00:31:23,203
that I was in a rush
to be somewhere else.
593
00:31:23,233 --> 00:31:25,303
After I kinda shut him down,
594
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:29,173
I think he started to become
a little suspicious of me.
595
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,330
Narrator:
Conahan suddenly stopped
his advances toward Clemens
596
00:31:32,333 --> 00:31:36,333
and took off, and the operation
was shut down for the night.
597
00:31:38,433 --> 00:31:40,433
But after
so much surveillance
598
00:31:40,467 --> 00:31:43,327
and plenty of probably cause
on Conahan,
599
00:31:43,333 --> 00:31:46,603
investigators already had
a backup plan in place.
600
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,430
We conducted a traffic stop
on U.S. 41 in Punta Gorda.
601
00:31:50,467 --> 00:31:52,127
Gandy:
I explained who we were
602
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:53,666
and that we were investigating
these crimes,
603
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:55,730
and that his name had come up
in these crimes.
604
00:31:55,767 --> 00:31:59,327
And that I would like to sit
down and talk with him,
605
00:31:59,367 --> 00:32:01,097
if he would be willing
to do that.
606
00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:03,773
To my surprise, he agreed to--
to talk with us.
607
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Narrator:
The stakes were high
608
00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:09,473
and investigators knew
a confession was key.
609
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,470
Afraid of spooking
their suspect,
610
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,230
they didn't haul him
into the station.
611
00:32:14,233 --> 00:32:16,233
Gandy:
We had already set up
a motel room
612
00:32:16,233 --> 00:32:19,273
that was wired
with video and audio.
613
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,430
So we went into the motel.
614
00:32:23,467 --> 00:32:25,427
In the next room was a team
615
00:32:25,467 --> 00:32:28,097
that was monitoring
this conversation.
616
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,300
- Would you like
some water or something?
- Yes, I would.
617
00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:31,603
Yes, no problem.
Got some right here.
618
00:32:31,633 --> 00:32:33,633
He was friendly.
I think that he thought
619
00:32:33,633 --> 00:32:36,303
he was probably the smartest
person in the room.
620
00:32:36,333 --> 00:32:38,103
And I think
that's why he decided
621
00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:40,103
that he would talk to us.
622
00:33:01,133 --> 00:33:03,533
Gandy:
I was nice to him, I didn't put
any pressure on him.
623
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:07,073
He was obviously nervous
because under the table--
624
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,000
We had a tablecloth.
625
00:33:09,033 --> 00:33:11,733
You'll see that tablecloth
moving rapidly.
626
00:33:11,767 --> 00:33:14,397
That's him patting his foot
underneath the table.
627
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,570
I asked him
if he'd ever taken part
in bondage with anyone.
628
00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:30,473
Narrator:
Conahan had no idea
investigators knew otherwise.
629
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,300
Gandy:
I think he underestimated our
investigation to that point.
630
00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:13,303
He had no clue
how massive it was.
631
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,333
How much information
we had.
632
00:34:30,367 --> 00:34:32,197
- ( laughs )
- I understand that,
633
00:34:32,233 --> 00:34:35,203
but let's get beyond
the embarrassment--
634
00:34:35,233 --> 00:34:38,433
Narrator:
Detectives waited until
they knew they had Conahan
635
00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:40,197
backed into a corner,
636
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,230
then hit him
with another surprise.
637
00:34:43,233 --> 00:34:45,603
Hobbs:
We had obtained enough
probably cause
638
00:34:45,633 --> 00:34:48,573
that Conahan could be connected
to these crimes,
639
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,700
that I was able to obtain
a search warrant.
640
00:35:09,233 --> 00:35:11,073
Hobbs:
While he was
being interviewed,
641
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,770
that's when we processed
his house.
642
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,770
We picked up
some of his clothing.
643
00:35:15,767 --> 00:35:19,227
We actually found
a quarter inch rope,
644
00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:22,626
pliers, paring knives,
tarps.
645
00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:26,303
A lot of the items
that would normally be
in a murder kit.
646
00:35:28,266 --> 00:35:30,096
Narrator:
There was another small
647
00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:32,103
but potentially significant
piece of evidence
648
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:34,503
the team was hoping
to link to Conahan.
649
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:38,773
One piece of evidence
came from the body
of Richard Montgomery.
650
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,770
When he was swabbed,
they found a paint chip
down by his hip.
651
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,500
When we served
the search warrants
652
00:35:46,533 --> 00:35:48,373
on Mr. Conahan's
blue car,
653
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,330
we also collected
samples of paint.
654
00:35:53,367 --> 00:35:55,627
Narrator:
The samples, along
with the other evidence,
655
00:35:55,667 --> 00:35:58,267
were rushed out
for testing.
656
00:35:58,266 --> 00:36:00,196
Investigators at the motel
were hoping
657
00:36:00,233 --> 00:36:04,103
to skillfully pull a confession
out of Daniel Conahan.
658
00:36:17,166 --> 00:36:19,396
Gandy:
I thought maybe once he knew
659
00:36:19,433 --> 00:36:22,573
I caught him in some lies
or some untruths
660
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,770
that he would maybe give me
a little bit more information,
661
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,170
but that didn't happen.
662
00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:29,266
Eventually I can tell
he's getting tired,
663
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:31,000
he getting to the point
664
00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:33,103
where he may be feeling
a little bit threatened.
665
00:36:33,133 --> 00:36:35,773
So I decided that it was time
to shut the interview down,
666
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,400
because I wanted another
chance to interview him.
667
00:36:39,433 --> 00:36:42,403
So I wanted to leave
on a good note,
668
00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:44,173
and that's the way
we ended it.
669
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,530
- Y'all set?
- Yeah.
670
00:36:46,567 --> 00:36:49,727
Hobbs:
A little frustrating that
we didn't get a confession,
671
00:36:49,734 --> 00:36:51,204
but we were
in the right direction.
672
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,270
Very well.
Thank you for your time.
673
00:36:56,333 --> 00:36:59,073
Narrator:
Certain Conahan was behind
the grisly murders
674
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,700
of Richard Montgomery
and two other victims,
675
00:37:01,734 --> 00:37:04,204
detectives kept close tabs
on him.
676
00:37:04,233 --> 00:37:06,673
They were waiting for the test
results of the paint chip
677
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,330
or for Conahan
to make a misstep
678
00:37:09,367 --> 00:37:12,267
when another haunting story
surfaced.
679
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,200
I was approached
by a detective
680
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,470
from the Fort Myers
Police Department.
681
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:20,470
He says, "You know,
we had one just like that
down in Fort Myers."
682
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,530
And I said, "Excuse me?"
683
00:37:22,567 --> 00:37:26,167
He says, "Yeah, we had just
like that, but ours lived."
684
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,130
And I said, "What?"
685
00:37:39,266 --> 00:37:39,466
Narrator:
686
00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:39,997
Narrator:
In 1996, detectives
687
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,400
Narrator:
In 1996, detectives
in Florida were closing in
688
00:37:42,633 --> 00:37:47,233
on Daniel Conahan, Jr.,
a suspected serial killer.
689
00:37:47,233 --> 00:37:50,433
They finally got
a major break in the case,
690
00:37:50,467 --> 00:37:55,497
after another victim
narrowly escaped death.
691
00:37:55,500 --> 00:38:00,170
Gandy:
This victim was picked up,
taken to the woods,
692
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,230
given narcotics.
693
00:38:03,266 --> 00:38:06,366
Lightly tied to a tree
and then cinched.
694
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,470
Hobbs:
He took some pictures,
695
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:14,670
and then given the excuse,
"Well, I gotta adjust this,
adjust that."
696
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,230
And the next thing you know,
697
00:38:17,266 --> 00:38:19,596
the guy's pinned up
against a tree.
698
00:38:19,633 --> 00:38:24,233
Victim was able to stay alive
by pretending to pass out.
699
00:38:30,633 --> 00:38:34,003
We showed this detective
a photograph
700
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,400
of Richard Montgomery's
injuries.
701
00:38:37,433 --> 00:38:39,733
And he said,
"Oh, my God!
702
00:38:39,767 --> 00:38:42,127
Those injuries
are identical
703
00:38:42,166 --> 00:38:45,266
to the injuries
that my victim had."
704
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:49,600
Hobbs:
Detectives give him a photo
array of six photographs.
705
00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:51,673
And as soon as they laid
that line up on the table,
706
00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:54,167
he put his finger and boom.
707
00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:55,426
That's him.
708
00:38:55,433 --> 00:38:56,703
That was Daniel Conahan.
709
00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:00,573
We had more than
sufficient evidence.
710
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,030
The judge agreed.
711
00:39:03,066 --> 00:39:06,496
And we arrested him.
712
00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:08,703
Gandy:
We charged him
with the attempted murder
713
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,570
and rape of this other victim.
714
00:39:11,567 --> 00:39:14,697
Narrator:
Daniel Conahan was safely
off the streets.
715
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,770
But to charge him
with the murders
of Richard Montgomery
716
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,030
or Kenny Smith,
investigators needed
more evidence.
717
00:39:23,066 --> 00:39:27,096
Hobbs:
During the examination at
the medical examiner's office,
718
00:39:27,133 --> 00:39:30,033
Richard Montgomery
was swabbed.
719
00:39:30,033 --> 00:39:33,703
They found a paint chip
by his hip.
720
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:36,730
When we served the search
warrants on Mr. Conahan's car,
721
00:39:36,734 --> 00:39:40,434
we also collected
samples of paint.
722
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:45,470
We were able to process
those paint samples.
723
00:39:45,467 --> 00:39:51,067
And these two particular
samples matched.
724
00:39:51,066 --> 00:39:55,226
That paint chip puts
Mr. Conahan's car
with Mr. Montgomery.
725
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,200
That was huge.
726
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,600
Gandy:
We were able to establish
we had physical evidence,
727
00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:07,073
we had his MO,
we had enough at that time
728
00:40:07,066 --> 00:40:12,526
that we charged him
with the murder
of Richard Montgomery.
729
00:40:12,567 --> 00:40:14,327
Jaccoud:
It was a big relief
to a lot of people
730
00:40:14,367 --> 00:40:17,367
and a little bit of closure
to what happened to Richard.
731
00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:21,627
Norman:
It just makes you wonder
the depth of his insanity,
732
00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:24,627
'cause at the bottom of
this there's definitely
733
00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:27,997
a very sick, twisted mind.
734
00:40:32,233 --> 00:40:34,633
Narrator:
With the help of one
fortunate survivor
735
00:40:34,633 --> 00:40:36,503
and the collection
of evidence,
736
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:40,030
detectives pieced together
exactly how Daniel Conahan
737
00:40:40,066 --> 00:40:43,066
carried out
his horrific crimes.
738
00:40:44,767 --> 00:40:47,497
Hobbs:
Mr. Conahan would pick 'em up.
739
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,500
They would be going
back into the woods
740
00:40:49,533 --> 00:40:53,233
under the guise
of posing nude.
741
00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:54,633
In a bondage scenario.
742
00:40:56,667 --> 00:41:01,427
And he'd offer them anywhere
from $20 to $100, $200.
743
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,270
He would call it
light bondage,
744
00:41:05,266 --> 00:41:09,226
which would be ropes tied
around them very loosely.
745
00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:13,466
He had a method somehow
of cinching those ropes
746
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:17,270
to where his victims
could not protect themself
747
00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:20,196
and could not fight back.
748
00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:22,103
Ultimately,
he would strangle them.
749
00:41:30,767 --> 00:41:32,397
Narrator:
Without enough evidence
750
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,400
to tie him to the murder
of Kenny Smith,
751
00:41:34,433 --> 00:41:36,403
Daniel Conahan, Jr.
stood trial
752
00:41:36,433 --> 00:41:38,273
for the murder
of Richard Montgomery
753
00:41:38,266 --> 00:41:42,266
on August 9, 1999.
754
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,300
Hobbs:
Mr. Conahan pled not guilty
all the way up.
755
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:48,300
He never admitted anything.
756
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,300
Narrator:
After an eight-day trial,
757
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:53,170
Conahan was convicted
of first-degree murder.
758
00:41:53,166 --> 00:41:56,126
Hobbs:
When it came time
for his sentencing
759
00:41:56,166 --> 00:41:58,566
the jury ultimately decided
he should receive
the death penalty.
760
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,630
Narrator:
Investigators never learned
the identity of the John Doe,
761
00:42:09,667 --> 00:42:12,697
whose bones were found
in Susan Brown's backyard.
762
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:17,100
And, sadly, they believed even
more unidentified victims
763
00:42:17,133 --> 00:42:19,173
were killed by Conahan.
764
00:42:19,166 --> 00:42:22,466
Hobbs:
During the investigation,
we estimated
765
00:42:22,467 --> 00:42:26,297
that there probably
16 victims out there.
766
00:42:29,166 --> 00:42:34,066
Norman:
To try to understand why a sick
killer like Daniel Conahan
767
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:36,470
does what he does
is anybody's guess.
768
00:42:36,467 --> 00:42:40,727
You see a need to control.
769
00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:46,474
And you see that with a lot
of serial killers.
770
00:42:46,467 --> 00:42:49,327
A whole lot of people
remember him.
771
00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:52,433
And that's something that's
gonna be part of the history
772
00:42:52,467 --> 00:42:57,467
and lore of-- of that place
for generations.
773
00:42:57,467 --> 00:42:59,267
Narrator:
Jean Jaccoud chooses
774
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:02,100
to remember his close friend
Richard Montgomery,
775
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:06,100
and the life stolen
from him far too soon.
776
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,600
Jaccoud:
I really spent a lot of time
trying to forget
777
00:43:07,633 --> 00:43:09,773
about exactly
what happened to him.
778
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,570
What I let people know
about Richard is that,
you know,
779
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,570
he would've made
something of himself.
780
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,230
He really would have.
781
00:43:17,266 --> 00:43:19,766
He would've had everything
everybody else has.
782
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,630
That's all he ever wanted.
783
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:26,373
Have a life and, uh,
and it was taken.
784
00:43:26,367 --> 00:43:29,127
That was taken from him.
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