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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:37,840 Under the patronage of 2 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,160 in collaboration with 3 00:00:41,330 --> 00:00:45,880 This film was only made thanks to the work of director Ferruccio Castronuovo 4 00:00:45,999 --> 00:00:50,775 on the sets of Fellini's "City of Women", "The Ship Sails On" and "Ginger and Fred". 5 00:00:50,994 --> 00:00:54,840 These films, the "Specials", were used to promote upcoming films. 6 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,999 Now they've been restored, after more than 40 years 7 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,279 at the Cineteca Nazionale. 8 00:01:01,239 --> 00:01:03,919 To Ferruccio the greatest gratitude for this unique tribute 9 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,160 to be carefully preserved. 10 00:01:12,119 --> 00:01:14,319 Get down on your knees to see better. 11 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:16,080 It's not amusing. 12 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Keep it that way, we'll add something later. 13 00:01:19,119 --> 00:01:20,119 Go! Quick! 14 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,039 All directors do the shot, the reverse shot and wide shot, 15 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,720 but with him, this is just the beginning. 16 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Take a seat, ma'am. 17 00:01:40,814 --> 00:01:41,920 How are you? 18 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:47,800 Look at the camera. 19 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,119 Rosina, who comes from Verrucchio, 20 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,760 is the first one to come out of the heap! 21 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,520 I’m a Bette Davis lookalike. 22 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,560 I’m Lucio Dalla’s double. 23 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,080 Wait! Stop everything! 24 00:02:10,679 --> 00:02:12,920 Slow down! 25 00:02:13,119 --> 00:02:18,720 We stay here, from morning till night, trapped together. We create a world apart. 26 00:02:18,832 --> 00:02:20,240 It's a "Fellinopolis". 27 00:02:22,279 --> 00:02:23,999 Scene 33/5/5. 28 00:02:50,999 --> 00:02:55,320 Stage 5 in Cinecittà is the ideal place. The utmost excitement. 29 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Thrilling, entrancing... 30 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:01,480 That's what I feel in front of the empty stage. 31 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,680 A space to fill, a world to build. 32 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,240 Please try to hold the positions you have been given, 33 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:23,706 Roll camera! Clear the scene! 34 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Too much smoke! Stop it! 35 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:30,279 Roll camera. 36 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Action, Marcello! 37 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Move forward! 38 00:03:38,239 --> 00:03:40,279 Get out! Get out! 39 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Louder! Shout louder! 40 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,439 Come forward! Come on! Come on! 41 00:03:52,999 --> 00:03:55,679 Go this way! This way! Go! 42 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,119 Ferocious, ferocious! 43 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,640 Stop! Thank you. 44 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,480 Flora Mastroianni, Marcello's wife, 45 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,559 was my friend since school. 46 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,080 It was at her house that I met Fellini. 47 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,400 Get down on your knees to see better. 48 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,039 You recognize him, you scream. 49 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Stand up. Stand up! 50 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,120 There he is! 51 00:04:35,121 --> 00:04:36,121 I first met Fellini on the set of "Satyricon", 52 00:04:36,122 --> 00:04:37,122 on which I worked as the assistant of Luigi Schiaccianoce. 53 00:04:37,123 --> 00:04:40,600 I met him in his kingdom, Cinecittà. 54 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,960 I met Federico in 1963. 55 00:04:47,159 --> 00:04:49,200 I used to go RAI television 56 00:04:49,359 --> 00:04:52,799 and ask if there were any chances 57 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:55,039 to have an internship. 58 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,320 There I met Federico Fellini. 59 00:04:57,479 --> 00:05:00,959 "Excuse me, you make a lot of movies, 60 00:05:01,039 --> 00:05:06,279 may I have a chance to work with you?" 61 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:07,919 After that meeting, 62 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,760 I worked with him from 1963 to 1993. 63 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,200 You all stand up and you come just about where you are now. 64 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:23,440 At one point in my life I decided to start working in movies. 65 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,800 I had a stroke of luck, 66 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,120 because I met Maurizio Mein. 67 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Please try to hold the positions you have been given. 68 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,719 He was Fellini's assistant. 69 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,080 I implored him: "Maurizio, please introduce me to Fellini." 70 00:05:42,359 --> 00:05:45,920 On a Friday afternoon, I got a phone call. 71 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,200 "Ferruccio, are you free on Monday morning?" 72 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:50,960 "Yes." 73 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,640 "Then come to Cinecittà. Fellini wants to meet you". 74 00:05:55,159 --> 00:05:57,640 "Fellini wants to meet me? Bugger off!" 75 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,520 I thought a friend was playing a joke on me. 76 00:06:00,599 --> 00:06:06,240 "No, I'm Norman, the production manager of Casanova." 77 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,120 "Casanova"?! Holy shit! 78 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,280 I didn't sleep for two nights. 79 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,440 One afternoon, which I will never forget, 80 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,880 the phone rang and a voice said: 81 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,200 "Good morning, I am Fellini's assistant director. 82 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:32,120 The Master would like to meet you tomorrow morning 83 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,520 in the offices of Stage 5 at Cinecittà film studios." 84 00:06:36,039 --> 00:06:37,599 I took it as a joke 85 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 and I answered: "Sure, I'll be there." 86 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:45,399 Then, luckily, I had some doubt and the following morning 87 00:06:45,479 --> 00:06:49,080 I went to the offices of Stage 5 in Cinecittà. 88 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:54,120 We spoke in his office. 89 00:06:55,799 --> 00:06:59,000 From that day on, with the exceptional unaffectedness 90 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,320 that he was able to infuse in any relationship, 91 00:07:04,447 --> 00:07:08,200 I worked with him, we spoke on the phone, we exchanged views... 92 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,920 nearly every day for 11 years. 93 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,959 I worked in the costume department laboratory. 94 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:40,200 I dealt with aging, among other tasks. 95 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:43,840 I supervised the seamstresses, the making of stage costumes. 96 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:51,680 I was Gabriella Pescucci's assistant for "City of Women". 97 00:07:56,919 --> 00:07:59,080 Bark. You have to bark. 98 00:08:01,599 --> 00:08:04,479 What if we do it yellow instead of this color? 99 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,000 Golden? 100 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,080 There was a lot to do, we had to create the feminists' costumes... 101 00:08:23,159 --> 00:08:26,039 We had to invent quite a bit. 102 00:08:39,577 --> 00:08:42,296 Try playing, turn towards me. That's it! 103 00:08:43,079 --> 00:08:44,840 The other way. 104 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:47,360 Good, that's it. All the way! 105 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Play like this. 106 00:09:01,439 --> 00:09:07,319 Later on, as a set manager, I was almost always there, at his side. 107 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:09,920 We got on instantly. 108 00:09:21,319 --> 00:09:24,800 Take a seat, I'll set you up later. 109 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,960 All right. Then? 110 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:30,600 Thank you. We'll see you later. Goodbye. 111 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 I wanted to tell the whole story, the work, 112 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:55,800 the set of Fellini's films. 113 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:04,120 Lower the trunk! 114 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:13,360 I started to look for the best framing I could imagine. 115 00:10:13,439 --> 00:10:15,560 Raise the trunks! 116 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:26,199 Pull up the trunks! 117 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:28,760 That's it! Roll camera, let's go! 118 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Scene 33/3/1. 119 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Don't move! 120 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,720 The challenge of portraying the story of "City of Women" 121 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,159 didn't prove easy, also because I didn't know the script. 122 00:10:43,319 --> 00:10:46,480 I didn't know what exactly Fellini wanted to tell. 123 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,559 The more money, the more rounds! 124 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Inside this shack, you can watch the most dangerous exercises... 125 00:10:55,079 --> 00:10:57,120 I chose to tell the film 126 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:02,319 in a much more explicit way 127 00:11:02,422 --> 00:11:05,200 than just doing interviews here and there. 128 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,039 In fact, there's no narrator. 129 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,960 It's all direct sound. 130 00:11:15,199 --> 00:11:17,000 Later we plug them in here. 131 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,600 Bring the pulley back here! 132 00:11:29,439 --> 00:11:31,399 The fateful Saturday comes along, 133 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,279 and Fellini wants to see the material I shot. 134 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:40,159 Gianni, I'll arrange the bulbs to be put here on the sides. 135 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,120 I saw Fellini controlling everything. 136 00:11:43,199 --> 00:11:47,360 He tore up all the photos: "This is bad... this is bad". 137 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,000 I was shaking. 138 00:11:49,199 --> 00:11:50,520 Fellini's examination, 139 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,679 when check what you shot at the editing table 140 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:55,600 is a terrible moment! 141 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,640 He came in and watched. 142 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:08,439 Every now and then he turned and looked at me. 143 00:12:09,199 --> 00:12:11,480 I would smile, shyly. 144 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,279 He would restart the Moviola. 145 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:22,440 Then he'd stop and say: "Where were you here?" 146 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,439 Take 2-6 147 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,279 Then we saw what was going on in front of Fellini. 148 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,799 Attention, please! We are ready! 149 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:34,840 Don't move! 150 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,480 Rolling camera! 151 00:12:43,439 --> 00:12:44,640 He's coming down. 152 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,399 Brake! Slow down! 153 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:53,840 The rope is too loose, leave it on! 154 00:12:55,199 --> 00:12:57,319 - Did you hurt? - Slower. 155 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:02,240 "From now on, you are the only person allowed to shoot on the set of my films." 156 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,439 And he kept his word, because I went on filming. 157 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,640 "City of Women", "The Ship Sails On" and "Ginger and Fred". 158 00:13:09,079 --> 00:13:11,520 Mustn't I look at you? 159 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:15,600 - I don't like the way you to look at me. - I won't look at you! 160 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Fine. 161 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,559 Ready! 162 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,799 You don't like the way I look at you? I won't look! 163 00:13:29,199 --> 00:13:31,199 Without moving. You should stay... 164 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,399 Can you see the camera? 165 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,880 If you do this like he does... 166 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,840 Ready! 167 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,760 I was an assistant director, so I would do everything 168 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,439 as assistants are expected to do. 169 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Music, Maestro! 170 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:15,600 This is a particular film, it didn't cost me any effort to make it. 171 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:20,319 It almost came about without me knowing and today it's over. 172 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Federico and I were in a taxi and another car passed by. 173 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,160 And inside the other car there was a "face". 174 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,520 A face that struck Federico. 175 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,799 He said: "Follow that car." 176 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,600 It was an eternal line from the movies. 177 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,319 So I did. 178 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:07,319 I got out of the car in a hurry, took another taxi and followed it. 179 00:15:19,079 --> 00:15:23,520 He would have liked to have all the faces of the world around him. 180 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,439 What's your role in this movie? 181 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,520 The role of Saraghina. 182 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,000 - Do you know that "Saraghina" is a fish? - Yes. 183 00:15:31,079 --> 00:15:32,840 And it's a pretty skinny fish! 184 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:35,799 The charm of Federico 185 00:15:36,279 --> 00:15:39,799 and his world. Those extraordinary faces 186 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 that you didn't see in other movies. 187 00:15:42,199 --> 00:15:44,360 It's a Noah's ark, no more, no less. 188 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Look at all the characters, they're more like animals. 189 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,640 We're all animals. I'm a beast too. 190 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,600 He's got all these incredible characters, like in a wax museum. 191 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,640 When someone asked: "Where do you find them?" 192 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,399 He would reply: "I have a shop where I pick them up." 193 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Both with professional and non-professional actors, 194 00:16:09,919 --> 00:16:14,159 I'm affected by a form of gratitude for the mere fact that they permit me 195 00:16:14,439 --> 00:16:18,559 to see the incarnation, the embodiment of characters 196 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,039 who until a month earlier, lived only in my imagination. 197 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,840 They were impalpable, like visions from a dream. 198 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:27,520 It’s really them, now. 199 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,880 One of these minor characters amuses me very much, 200 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,919 because he's always so snooty. 201 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:35,520 He argued about everything. 202 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,159 I made him wear a long white mane, kind of like Einstein 203 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,559 and that upset him a lot. 204 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,919 One day, he said to me: "I look like an old man!" 205 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,279 So I asked: "Why? How old are you?" He replied: "78." 206 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,760 I have hair like Giuseppe Verdi, Pirandello's goatee, 207 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:57,120 I'm in disguise! 208 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,919 The characters were there, and there were indications as to what they represented, 209 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:06,319 but he used to invent things every day. 210 00:17:06,399 --> 00:17:10,039 We know nothing, because we see just fragments 211 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,840 and we just work with fragments, without knowing what will come out. 212 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,240 He invents. He will invent something. 213 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,839 Using his own words, something "supernatural","magical", 214 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,840 from the depths of the subconscious. 215 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:40,000 When we were out looking for faces, he didn't have a definite script. 216 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:54,400 Do you reckon, do you understand 217 00:17:54,639 --> 00:17:57,920 the lines in the script? Do you get it wrong sometime? 218 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,960 There are no lines, because there's no script. 219 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,279 - Not at all? - No! 220 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,840 It wasn't clear what he was getting at. 221 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,359 The character will become clear as the film develops. 222 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,400 Do the seductive 'Fumagalli smile', like that time. 223 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,240 Give me that little smile... 224 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,279 There was a script, it did exist, 225 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,839 he just didn't always stick to it. 226 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,839 He would invent lines at the last minute, 227 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,639 totally different from the original ones, and this frightened some of the actors. 228 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,319 In "The Ship Sails On" 229 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,359 there was a big group of British actors, 230 00:18:49,839 --> 00:18:54,000 used to know exactly what was going on. 231 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:57,319 Well, that didn't happen with Federico. 232 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,639 Yes, he was on a schedule, but nobody knew 233 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,520 where he was going to start and when he was going to finish. 234 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Ready. 235 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:11,279 Roll camera. 236 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,279 Scene 21/47/4. 237 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:17,680 Entirely spontaneous. 238 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,000 He expresses exactly what he wants. 239 00:19:24,879 --> 00:19:27,520 What I demand and I try to defend, 240 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:29,879 is not the freedom of improvisation, 241 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:36,240 but rather that inexpressible margin, which I find vitally necessary, 242 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,079 not to suffocate the characters and their story 243 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,920 through a programme utterly pre-arranged and organized. 244 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,160 When I showed up for this movie, 245 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:52,119 I said: "But Federico, I can't sing!" 246 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,119 "You don't need to sing! You're an actor, you make gestures." 247 00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:00,559 During the shooting, he didn't waste time, 248 00:20:00,639 --> 00:20:03,000 though he was a perfectionist. 249 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:05,039 I once heard one of the actresses 250 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,559 repeat a line... 251 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,520 ...12 times! 252 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,639 During the shooting of "Amarcord", we were at the table with Pupella Maggio, 253 00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:30,240 Bruno Zanin and other actors. 254 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 We were shooting the scene where I had to eat a chicken leg. 255 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,799 I made a mistake, then Pupella made one, 256 00:20:36,879 --> 00:20:39,319 then Bruno Zanin. 257 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,240 After the eighteenth or nineteenth take, 258 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:46,559 I begged him: "Federico can I pretend and just eat a little piece?" 259 00:20:46,639 --> 00:20:48,920 "No, you have to eat it all!" 260 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,680 Twenty-three chicken legs! 261 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,760 Unless things weren't perfectly in line with his head and heart, 262 00:20:57,247 --> 00:20:58,767 he kept doing it over and over. 263 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Scene 21/28/2. 264 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Pull up the tubes, good. 265 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,079 Action Vittorio! 266 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,319 No, wait! 267 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:20,240 Turn! Smile! 268 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:24,559 Put your hand on the wheel. Lift your head. 269 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:42,400 Will you pass me a life jacket, please? I'm about to drown. Seriously! 270 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,680 I turned his dreams into scenic design. 271 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Everything he wanted. 272 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,839 And he listened to me, because having worked together for a long time, 273 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,120 we were on the same wavelength. 274 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,079 I addressed him with respect, even if he always put me at ease. 275 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,000 I was his tool 276 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,960 to accomplish what he had in mind, what went through his head. 277 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,599 Get very close together. 278 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,599 Look over there, everybody look to your right. 279 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,279 Swing left and right, slowly. Not with your head! 280 00:22:58,639 --> 00:23:02,000 I've been kidnapped for almost 15 years, 281 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,200 with him, day and night, 282 00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:07,280 at Cinecittà, also known as "Guantanamo Bay". 283 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,400 Two years later, he started to conceive "The Ship Sails On". 284 00:23:34,639 --> 00:23:37,200 He thought of me as costume designer. 285 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,079 I, of course, didn't want to, I didn't feel ready. 286 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,279 It was too demanding, it was a period film. 287 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,360 It was a huge thing. 288 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:05,920 I... lost sleep. 289 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,039 But he was adamant. 290 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,000 He called me every day. 291 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,400 "You have to do it!" 292 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,480 I was really worried sick. 293 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,799 Too big a thing. 294 00:24:18,879 --> 00:24:22,320 It was my first film as head of the costume department. 295 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:23,599 Let's see. 296 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,079 You must wear black gloves. You'll have them on set. 297 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,720 - So is that all right? - Yeah, all right. 298 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,760 But then he guided me, took me by the hand 299 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,279 and it proved a wonderful experience. 300 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,440 - Ready! - Scene 1/6/2. 301 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Action! 302 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,839 At one point, there's a character 303 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520 flipping through a photo album. 304 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:50,520 There were photos and film clips. 305 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,960 After two months preparation, he said: "Let's start taking photos 306 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:59,079 and shoot the vintage footage", suddenly. 307 00:25:00,639 --> 00:25:03,240 I'm still convinced, 308 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:05,799 he wanted to test me, 309 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:09,400 see if I would be able to make it or not. 310 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:15,760 It was a film within the film, shooting lasted one month. 311 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:20,680 There was the filming of three operas, with costumes typical of the period 312 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,119 in which the action took place, 313 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,599 the early 20th Century, 1905-1906. 314 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720 It wasn't at all easy. 315 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:32,160 Then the singer's departure, 316 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,799 and all the various characters, as seen in the film. 317 00:25:36,879 --> 00:25:42,200 Singers, opera supervisors, dancers... 318 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:43,960 So, a real feat. 319 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,360 And... I succeeded. 320 00:26:04,728 --> 00:26:07,800 I'm fat and I'm a banker with Fellini. 321 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,799 An opera singer who loves cooking and women. 322 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:13,440 I am a volunteer. 323 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,400 My profession: Women's hairdresser. 324 00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:20,879 Unfortunately, the "Fellini State" prosecutors play jokes on you, 325 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,920 sending you to a golden island that's the equivalent of a jail. 326 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,160 We stay here from morning till night, 327 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,839 trapped together, we create a world apart. 328 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,319 We've had good days and bad days. 329 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,520 We're going to have an election to nominate a Mayor, 330 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:39,760 a city council... 331 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:43,040 This is a separate nation inhabited by "Fellinian people". 332 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,799 It's well worth going to work with Fellini 333 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,599 who is a great man. 334 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,799 Let's go, guys. 335 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,760 Is that a wide angle? Are you going to give me a huge nose? 336 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:01,559 Then you see... These eyebrows are fake. 337 00:27:01,879 --> 00:27:02,920 I'm all fake. 338 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,639 Go on stage, go on stage! 339 00:27:07,879 --> 00:27:08,879 Action. 340 00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:13,400 I had to rebuild the whole ship inside Stage 5. 341 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,079 It was assembled on a big platform and mounted on a mechanism, 342 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,600 giving the impression of a ship at sea. 343 00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:31,120 The ship moved. 344 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,879 It simulated the pitch 345 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,839 thanks to the hydraulic systems underneath. 346 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,800 The scale of the model was about 45-50%, so practically half a real size ship. 347 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,960 You'd get on, and once on board, 348 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:57,680 you couldn't get off until the shooting was over. 349 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,639 The funny thing was, that once they had built 350 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,039 that big moving ship, 351 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:10,720 he said: "Guys, do whatever you want, but don't move the ship. I get seasick." 352 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:16,559 He never stepped on the ship, but directed from a scaffold on the side. 353 00:28:16,639 --> 00:28:21,000 So, the poor actors and the whole crew, were forced 354 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,480 to take pills against the sea-sickness they developed after getting on board. 355 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,920 It went on for a long time because the filming 356 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,440 on the ship's deck lasted well over four months. 357 00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:37,639 For Fellini, 358 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,800 the sea was a sort of suggestion to be conveyed to the viewer. 359 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,119 It was spectacular. 360 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,720 Visitors came from all over the world. 361 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:02,440 There was always a queue at Cinecittà, everyone wanted to come and see Fellini. 362 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,960 I remember the Swedish Royal Family, the Italian intelligentsia, 363 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:09,920 from Moravia to Ginsburg... 364 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,720 A lot of American directors, actors, producers... 365 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:18,000 It was a never-ending flow. 366 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:25,680 Being on a Fellini set was such a privilege. 367 00:29:45,879 --> 00:29:49,839 Fellini doesn't want a rhino that looks real. 368 00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:51,480 He said to me: 369 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:56,160 "I must have the feeling of seeing an overturned truck." 370 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,639 I think Fellini chose it because it is the most fascinating animal 371 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,559 in the world. 372 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:07,360 This ear, for example, is a wrap, a parcel. 373 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,799 I can give it various positions. 374 00:30:09,879 --> 00:30:13,920 This one could be when it is lying in the cargo hold. 375 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,160 This animal can adopt an infinite number of postures. 376 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,680 Fellini has named me the rhino's guardian. 377 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,359 Keep calm, Ciccillo, keep calm. Everything will be fine, don't worry. 378 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,799 Keep calm, Ciccillo. 379 00:30:27,879 --> 00:30:32,559 We're taking it into Noah's Ark to save it from the Great Flood. 380 00:30:32,639 --> 00:30:38,559 It's an invention to collapse an age, a world, and create a new one. 381 00:30:38,639 --> 00:30:41,039 It's a kind of E.T. of ancient history. 382 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,119 Fellini was definitely my master, but also a master of manipulation, 383 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,720 because he was a master of lies. 384 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:58,680 Federico?! An incorrigible liar! 385 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,360 As Giulietta used to say, he turned red in shame when he told the truth. 386 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,599 Of course, Federico, like many artists, almost all of them... 387 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,160 was a big liar. 388 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:20,319 I used to tell him lots of fibs, because he liked to hear them. 389 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,639 He knew I was a liar too, but for him this was fine, 390 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,680 because he liked not to hear true things, 391 00:31:28,767 --> 00:31:31,680 but interesting lies. 392 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,799 Keep your head down and look there. 393 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,240 Your eyes must to look up. Even when... 394 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,480 Yes. 395 00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:41,839 Yes, even when you talk... 396 00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:48,279 You have to be someone between a priest, a judge and a son of a bitch. 397 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,200 Don't move your head, just smile. Close your mouth, smile. 398 00:31:52,879 --> 00:31:56,760 Deep down he wasn't so much lying, but rather inventing his own truth. 399 00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,359 His truth was what he represented in the cinema. 400 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:08,079 He's always been himself in the movie industry, it has been shown wide and far. 401 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,920 He has been presented in various ways, but he held his own personality. 402 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,760 In short, he was always Fellini. Fortunately, I might add. 403 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,400 11/5/4. 404 00:32:24,879 --> 00:32:28,079 For a small director like me, 405 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,400 finding myself in front of actors like Fellini, Mastroianni, Masina, 406 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,760 the elite, the best of cinema you could ever meet, 407 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:40,039 was one of the most beautiful things, the greatest luck 408 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:43,119 I could have in life. 409 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,400 Ballet rehearsal at Stage 15. 410 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,359 11/5/1 411 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,960 Do you remember it? 412 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,200 Yes, of course, in the end it changes into a waltz. 413 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480 - Very nice. - We're not done yet. 414 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,319 The best is to come. 415 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,400 The first thing a movie actor should know is how to dance. 416 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,879 When you tell an actor: "Come in like this, take that light..." 417 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,480 That's dance! "Hurry up, walk slowly, then speed up..." 418 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,440 It's a fundamental thing, dominance, mastery, 419 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,400 the awareness of one's body's how to move one's limbs. 420 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,720 That's the very first thing a movie actor has to do. 421 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,520 The first film I set to music for Fellini was "Ginger and Fred", 422 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:54,599 but before that, I had set some of his commercials to music. 423 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,839 When he proposed them to me, I remember 424 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,760 that very naively and with a good degree of presumption, I told him: 425 00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:07,319 "Federico I don't like commercials, I've never done them." 426 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,920 And he replied: "Me neither! I don't like them either." 427 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,920 In this way he defused all possible objections you might offer. 428 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,719 So he said to me: "Let's consider this a system, 429 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,199 to get to know each other, to see how we work 430 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,559 and what we can do together." 431 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,239 "Ginger and Fred" has a final part that takes place 432 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,840 inside a TV variety show studio. 433 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,960 At the first work meeting, I was used to taking notes... 434 00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,159 He told me: "You know, we could use a type of music 435 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,480 like the ones employed in those cynical TV shows... a cynical music. 436 00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,599 Meanwhile I noted 'cynical'. 437 00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:38,280 "Also quite a repetitive music, because, you know... 438 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:41,960 ...this kind of music keeps repeating." 439 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,119 So I wrote 'repetitive'. 440 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:51,199 "With the pompous banality typical of those TV shows." 441 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,960 So I wrote 'banal, pompous.' 442 00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,759 When he got up to leave, I looked at my notes and saw that I had 443 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,880 to write a banal, 444 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:04,719 cloying, repetitive, conceited, cynical, unpleasant and annoying music. 445 00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:09,159 He turned back and said: "But please, make it beautiful." 446 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,400 The music had to be the credible music of a TV show, 447 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:25,440 but inside it, dwelled a virus that he put in every shot. 448 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,679 Even if it's not musically plausible, 449 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880 remember to move together, as one, 450 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,039 with your trombones, fully extending your arms. 451 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:41,400 If pre-existing music was used in a film, he would never use the recorded music, 452 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:43,719 we recorded it again in the studio, 453 00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,280 magnifying a detail or reducing another one. 454 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,880 Hurray! My little tripe just arrived from outer space! 455 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,679 Applaud, everyone! Go, Federico, go! 456 00:36:58,759 --> 00:37:01,719 The last three are research films. 457 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,800 This has not been well understood at the time. 458 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,800 Today, the research value of those movies it's pretty obvious to everyone. 459 00:37:10,888 --> 00:37:15,968 Kundera mentioned it recently, giving the final word 460 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,400 on the value of that research. 461 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,840 Smile, adjust the collar of your shirt. 462 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:24,320 Look at the camera. 463 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,880 Those last three films, which I set to music, 464 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:33,159 are three films which, as anyone might imagine, 465 00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:37,079 I'm more than fond of. I love them so much. 466 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,759 "Ginger and Fred", I could say 467 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,000 was an emblematic movie. 468 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:09,119 The intuition of the arrival of television democracy. 469 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:16,320 He sensed that a disaster was coming, the disaster of television. 470 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,639 Roll Camera! 471 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,719 Silence! 472 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,159 He only had fun when he was working. 473 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,679 Work is what always entertained him so much. 474 00:38:37,759 --> 00:38:42,080 Work is fun if you like it, especially creative work like his. 475 00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:13,000 It's a complicated picture, but it will be a big hit in Viterbo. 476 00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,759 Fellini wasn't a 'senior' artist. 477 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,920 He wasn't the revered master repeating himself, 478 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,520 but someone continuing to research. 479 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,759 One of the phrases I most often heard from him 480 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:38,240 when I gave a suggestion, was: "But I've done that." 481 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,280 Andrea, try to look in the hole. Hold it right there! 482 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,599 Go! Quick, here! 483 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,920 Stop. 484 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,159 Can we do a test, please? 485 00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:00,199 All right. 486 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:06,599 I've never seen anything done in a movie and repeated in another one. 487 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,159 Go! 488 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,239 Turn around! 489 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,039 Every time was something new, 490 00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:18,520 nothing was quite like the things already done in his past films. 491 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,400 Further, towards me. 492 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:27,440 There wasn't a movie that used the same camera movements. 493 00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,719 Go, Marcellino. Make them run away! 494 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,840 Get up. 495 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,440 Damn you! 496 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,320 Stop! 497 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,400 It ran away! 498 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,159 It should stay here or disappear, or come to you, turn around here, 499 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,719 It's a walking dog, not one that goes to see who's there. 500 00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:12,440 He had a powerful view of the contemporary world, always focused on "today". 501 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,720 He enjoyed getting me involved. 502 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,480 Excuse me, where is the toilet? 503 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,119 Give me some wind! 504 00:41:58,759 --> 00:42:02,160 What was important to me was to capture Fellini's smile. 505 00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:03,679 Ready. 506 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,159 He talked to me like I was the greatest musician in the world. 507 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,960 That helps. You can't really relax, because you're working with Fellini, 508 00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:19,759 but it takes away any performance anxiety, any distressing attitude 509 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,199 and it leads you to take on a playful attitude. 510 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,520 Go ladies, quickly, hurry! 511 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,759 Part of his work in films 512 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,280 was like the work of the model railway for children. 513 00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,960 It was the construction of a fairy tale, of magic. 514 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,719 Switch on. 515 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,280 A complete rehearsal. Do you see her well? 516 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:24,880 - Ready? - Yes, Maestro. 517 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,920 Go! Special effects! Train! 518 00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:29,599 He was beyond any argument 519 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:31,599 about markets, 520 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:35,759 quotas, Americans, what people want to know... 521 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,800 No, the reality was to remain on another cloud. 522 00:44:45,759 --> 00:44:48,840 I'm Menuccio, Fellini's key grip. 523 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,920 The key grip is the person 524 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,199 who has big responsibilities, because he has to do the movements 525 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,239 with the dolly, with the crane. 526 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,520 I've been with him for twenty-five, twenty-six years. 527 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:07,679 And even though I'm 82 years old, he wants me with him every time. 528 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,199 I've taken care of him like one does with a son. 529 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:19,440 In fact, he used to say that I was like a mom, not the key grip. 530 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,239 He had a great connection with the crew, everyone spoke to him as a close friend. 531 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,599 He was, first of all, a great playmate. 532 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:33,480 I saw him as a brother, an uncle, a father, 533 00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:38,239 I addressed him with respect, even if he always put me at ease. 534 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,920 He really had a special ability 535 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,039 in building relationships of friendship, of intimacy, of solidarity 536 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,000 with all his collaborators. 537 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,639 There really was a relationship, a family relationship. 538 00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,199 I need a lot of harmony around me, to create in the crew, among work mates, 539 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,239 a sense of a journey, of an outing... 540 00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:06,119 of an extraordinary adventure. 541 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,239 We've always had a lot of fun. 542 00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:14,960 We've always done things with gaiety. 543 00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:16,039 That's it. 544 00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,679 One, two, three and four. 545 00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:24,079 Then there's him. Five, six and four. 546 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:27,400 A relationship that has grown slowly over time, 547 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,639 developing until you reach a sort of personal intimacy. 548 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,000 A kind of complicity, 549 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,520 that others couldn't understand. 550 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,880 As a man, more than intelligent, more than sensitive, 551 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,880 a connoisseur of the human soul, 552 00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:52,480 he realized that making a collaborator feel comfortable, 553 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,920 inspires him to cooperate better. 554 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,559 You need to be able to convey in yourself some projection 555 00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:07,679 of trust, of empathy, of compliance and of cooperation. 556 00:47:07,759 --> 00:47:11,119 This is part of the charisma that you can create, 557 00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:15,640 the way you impose yourself, the way you propose your game. 558 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:17,880 Ave, Marcello! 559 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,119 Rosina, who comes from Verrucchio, 560 00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:25,199 is the first one to come out of the heap! 561 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,920 Stay still, just move these. 562 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,239 One more time. 563 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,599 Confronted with this scenario, 564 00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:38,920 I tried to imagine different solutions to animate it in different way. 565 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,840 Acting on the images and the characters that Fellini was maneuvering, 566 00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,800 has been an exceptional opportunity. 567 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,079 See you in a bit. 568 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,320 The freedom Fellini gave me wasn't granted to anyone else. 569 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,920 He should be here in a moment. We'll try to stop him. We might get lucky. 570 00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:20,719 There he is! 571 00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:22,119 Marcello! Marcello! 572 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,719 I'd like to briefly interview you for the "Special". 573 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,639 Another time, I'm late. Angela! 574 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,880 A little question. 575 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,119 I had to be ready at 10. It's after 11. Another time. 576 00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:35,920 All right then, I'll come later. 577 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Yes, later. 578 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,079 One of Fellini's habits, not just with me, 579 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:46,880 was to make a phone call early in the morning, around 8:00-8:30. 580 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,119 It was rarely a phone call like: "We have to edit the music" 581 00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:53,280 or something concerning the work. 582 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,719 It usually was: "Did you hear what Craxi said on TV last night?" 583 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,199 Or a comment on a matter of manners. 584 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,120 And he went on for a long time. 585 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:07,119 Go, Marcello. 586 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,759 It's a lie, your invention! 587 00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,280 You want me to change? 588 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,880 Those conversations over the phone 589 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,480 made you appreciate 590 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:24,920 how much importance he gave to words, what wealth he possessed 591 00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:29,360 in describing something, even when he was joking. 592 00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:30,559 Flowers! 593 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:32,000 Second group! 594 00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:33,440 Third group! 595 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,480 I once told him: 596 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:45,079 "I come to work with a genius and then I find in the edit room, 597 00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:48,920 a very childlike and beautiful atmosphere." 598 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,360 He said: 599 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,920 "Don't offend me! Childlike? Collegiate, if you must!" 600 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,679 That's the precision of his use of adjectives. He was right! 601 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,520 It wasn't a childish environment, but that of a high school, 602 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:09,360 with students doing their homework and then playing jokes. 603 00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:12,160 Now, everyone picks their own flower! 604 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,759 Girls, one hour break. Back here in an hour! 605 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,720 Easy! 606 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,360 Federico, until the last moment, 607 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,639 he didn't prepare for it, he didn't shout: "Be quiet!", 608 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,280 because he needed 609 00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:40,800 to think. 610 00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:44,119 He managed to think 611 00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:45,679 by escaping from the set, 612 00:50:45,759 --> 00:50:49,679 whilst everyone was in conversation until the last moment. 613 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,119 Only for me, who didn't know at which point he was going to start, 614 00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:56,239 I was a little apprehensive. 615 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,199 Giving an exact number to each scene was essential for the editing, 616 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,679 I couldn't afford to be wrong. 617 00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,079 Explosion! Scream! 618 00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:07,440 Applause! 619 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,880 Then you start slightly rocking. All of you. 620 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,440 All of you. 621 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,520 But only slightly. It's too exaggerated, slightly, just barely. 622 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,400 Open up again. 623 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,320 Bravo! 624 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,119 Fellini was a world. 625 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,719 Focus is everything. Look at the base of the nose. That's it. 626 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,599 It was as if you had opened a window 627 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,520 and outside that window, you saw a panorama that you didn't know was there. 628 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,840 He needed collaborators to build, to undo, to do everything, 629 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,320 someone really close, capable 630 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,880 of understanding what he had in mind. 631 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,719 A collaborator who not only did things, which was easy, 632 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,880 but also ready to slow down when he saw him thinking. 633 00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,840 Sometimes he wasn't so sure about what he wanted. 634 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,759 We often found ways of delaying the work process, 635 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,520 as so to give him a chance to reflect for five minutes more. 636 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,840 Again and again the production managers said to me: 637 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,679 "Tell Federico that we've already gone over schedule, 638 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,920 we don't have much time. We should finish by tomorrow." 639 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,759 I replied that they couldn't prevent 640 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,280 an artist like Federico Fellini from having ideas, 641 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,320 from making changes or enriching. 642 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,639 Sometimes it wasn't clear how a sequence would turn out, 643 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,239 but when finished and edited, 644 00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:02,880 you saw the miracle of what he had done. 645 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,199 You go in first, start the burner. 646 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,360 Go with the water on top! 647 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,400 Raise the flame! 648 00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:21,639 Roll camera! 649 00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:24,599 Lower the pumps! 650 00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:26,520 Go with the flame! 651 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,119 Stop! This one, Norma, the last three. 652 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:36,079 When you worked with Federico, there was an efficient machine in place 653 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,320 and an expensive one too. 654 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,679 But the results were extraordinary. He won five Academy Awards. 655 00:53:42,759 --> 00:53:46,440 Recognised by the whole world as one of the greatest artists 656 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,880 who ever lived. 657 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,320 He achieved all of this while he was alive, 658 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,239 contrary to many people who only get recognition after death. 659 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,759 Instead, he's had everything when he was alive. 660 00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:12,759 He had so many qualities, he was a very affable man, 661 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,520 a very good man, and very naughty as well! 662 00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:17,880 Don't look at her! 663 00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:20,920 We'll be here until tomorrow. 664 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,639 Shut up everybody! 665 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,199 Smile, Alberto! 666 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,759 Among the artists, the director is the most exposed to continuous conflict. 667 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:38,719 It is a profession that also requires identifying with a command figure. 668 00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:41,199 Sit down. 669 00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:43,039 Still. 670 00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:46,119 Look at this! You mustn't laugh. Stay still!! 671 00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:49,039 Then start rocking. 672 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:53,400 To see that hundred, two hundred, three hundred, a thousand people 673 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,800 are there to do exactly what you want, 674 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,759 it can create a certain inflation of your authority. 675 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,400 It is clearly not easy 676 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,119 to force people to become pure expressive material. 677 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,199 He would sometimes pretend to be gruff. 678 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,880 "Stop! Quiet!" 679 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,920 Then he would turn and smile to the camera operator. 680 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,599 Will you piss off? Get out the bloody way! 681 00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,679 Castronuovo, will you get out the bloody way? 682 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:28,920 He first created a big mess, then, suddenly, he would start screaming: 683 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,400 "Silence! I can't take it anymore!" but then he laughed. 684 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,520 I don't see myself as the kind of director who screams and acts like a dictator. 685 00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:42,599 There are electricians, grips, collaborators, actors and extras, 686 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,960 who must fit into the most rigorous scheme possible. 687 00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:51,480 He'd turn red in the face, he'd get excited, angry. 688 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:57,199 Sometimes I resorted to a little stratagem and would say: 689 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,199 "Stop it, you're going to have a heart attack!" 690 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,880 That was the only way to have him calm down. 691 00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:06,520 Raise your eyebrows. 692 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,440 And smile. 693 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,440 One, two, three and four. 694 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,400 Armando, smile! 695 00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:26,079 Come on! 696 00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,880 Smile, Armando or I'll clobber you. 697 00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:30,800 Back! 698 00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:33,320 Two, three and four. 699 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,719 One, two, three and four. 700 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,119 Listen, Armando, excuse me... 701 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,480 When I say "smile", you have to smile all the time. 702 00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:47,040 I don't want to repeat it four hundred times! 703 00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:51,000 When Christopher Columbus solicited his crew 704 00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:53,679 not to swim back 705 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,880 in the middle of the ocean, 706 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,840 he probably had a dream in his mind 707 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,840 for discovering a new continent. 708 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,559 As modest as your fantasy may be, if you want to materialize it, 709 00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:14,079 overcoming the conflicts and the obstacles derived from the community around you, 710 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,320 you must possess the same fanaticism and... 711 00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:21,360 ...faith that Columbus had, 712 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:25,480 in the belief there wouldn't just be water 713 00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:29,480 and that eventually a strip of land would appear. 714 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:54,599 I always remember the night, of the first screening, when we watched the first edit. 715 00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:57,000 Do you remember? 716 00:57:57,559 --> 00:58:01,039 And it was the first time I saw the movie in its entirety. 717 00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,440 I didn't really know what I'd done, but I was very comforted 718 00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:08,079 by your reaction. 719 00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:11,039 The light went on, you kept quiet for a long time, 720 00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,559 then you put your head in your hands, 721 00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:16,440 and I understood you were very moved. 722 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,039 It really struck you who had lived every moment of it. 723 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,480 He nicely called the circus "a magic circle". 724 00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:32,119 And at the centre of this circle anything could happen. 725 00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:34,480 If you think about it, it's true: 726 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,639 The elephant's stool is round, the tiger's cage is round, the awning is round. 727 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,240 It's a circle. A magic circle where anything can happen. 728 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,559 He had a very strong rapport with magic. 729 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,000 Astrology... 730 00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,360 ...clairvoyance, predictions, extrasensory perceptions. 731 00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:14,039 Wizards or visionaries 732 00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:17,880 passing through his set. 733 00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:22,520 I'm not an actress, let's say I'm clairvoyant, a psychic. 734 00:59:23,759 --> 00:59:26,239 I'm here to talk about "The Ship Sails On". 735 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,960 The explanations that he gave me were fascinating. 736 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,280 He said: "Nothing is known, nothing is imagined". 737 00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:36,400 With his power, with his charisma, 738 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,199 with his enormous power of suggestion 739 00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:43,679 which he also tried to express in his movies, 740 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,119 he managed to influence all collaborators around him. 741 00:59:48,199 --> 00:59:52,000 "What did you dream last night?" At first I'd reply: "Nothing." 742 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,719 "What did you dream?" "Nothing." 743 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,159 The third time he asked me, I thought I better start inventing some dreams. 744 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:06,320 So, I began telling him that I dreamt about something I thought he'd like. 745 01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:08,679 Other people's dreams are important 746 01:00:08,759 --> 01:00:15,360 if they match what you want to hear. 747 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,119 During a break between "Casanova" and "City of Women", 748 01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:24,960 suddenly, Paese Sera newspaper published a short note, just three lines: 749 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,119 "Fellini is preparing a new movie in Cinecittà 'City of Women'". 750 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,440 I had a very agitated night, crowded with dreams, 751 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,360 in which I saw some very precise images. 752 01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:41,119 A kind of big slide made of iron pipes. 753 01:00:41,759 --> 01:00:45,719 Something magical, mysterious, unclassifiable. 754 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,840 Smile. Look over here, Farracino! 755 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,800 Say "Hello!" Go, Marcello! 756 01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:00,239 Hat on! 757 01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:03,210 Stop, stop! 758 01:01:06,239 --> 01:01:09,159 Rosina, who comes from Verrucchio, 759 01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:12,199 is the first to come out of the heap! 760 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,360 Farracino smile, hat, smile! 761 01:01:14,759 --> 01:01:15,759 Close it. 762 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:21,719 In the evening, 763 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,119 when we finished work together the editing or the mixing, 764 01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:28,599 he asked if I could give him a lift home. 765 01:01:29,079 --> 01:01:32,079 It was a pleasure to take him to Piazza del Popolo. 766 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:37,960 Under the arches of the Felice Aqueduct, 767 01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:41,079 he said: "Turn right! Right in there!" 768 01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,039 He started giving me increasingly vague directions, 769 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,360 until we found ourselves lost in a place 770 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:57,320 dotted with caravans, aerials, abandoned refrigerators. 771 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,840 There was a full moon, 772 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,920 and I got a little scared. 773 01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:14,320 He started describing that place with adjectives that I don't remember. 774 01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:19,480 "Look at this moon. It could be intimidating, 775 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,079 but instead it has a pastel smile." 776 01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:27,440 "Look at these aerials, at these tires scattered around". 777 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,639 "Look at this incredible landscape. And what a silence!" 778 01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:34,880 He described the flow of traffic in the distance, 779 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,320 the call of animals, of crows. 780 01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:46,079 He was enchanted and so was I, 781 01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:50,159 thanks to his special ability to influence others. 782 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,880 However, as enchanted as I was, 783 01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:55,559 "Federico, it's time to find our way back." 784 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,759 We got back in the car we drove at random for a little while 785 01:03:00,759 --> 01:03:05,960 until we came out exactly where we had taken the shortcut. 786 01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:11,719 The next day he says: "Will you take me home?","Sure." 787 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:17,960 "This time I have the exact directions of the shortcut and we'll take it." 788 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,280 I said: "Federico, what if we get lost again?" 789 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,639 And he: "Let's hope so." 790 01:03:38,759 --> 01:03:39,759 Let's try again. 791 01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:44,559 - Marcello, again? - Here we are. 792 01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:46,639 Let us drink in peace. 793 01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:51,679 - What I can tell you, Ferruccio? - It's just for the "Special", 794 01:03:51,759 --> 01:03:54,759 tell us something about the movie, your character... 795 01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,880 I can't. It's a military secret. We'll talk about it another time. 796 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,320 All right, when you find a moment... 797 01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:06,840 Let's see. Next year! 798 01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:09,599 Next year, in 1988. 799 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:15,960 That's it. 800 01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:19,119 Try to drag him by the hand. 801 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,719 Give me a crafty smile. 802 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,000 Look in front of you and smile. 803 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,400 Smile. 804 01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:34,039 His relationship with women 805 01:04:34,759 --> 01:04:39,159 was primarily one of great curiosity, because I can't say 806 01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:42,520 that he was just attracted to beautiful women. 807 01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:46,480 Fellini wanted me, in some regards, physically. 808 01:04:46,759 --> 01:04:47,759 So... 809 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,920 For example, he started by getting my eyebrows completely shaved off. 810 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,239 I felt like my face... 811 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,119 was absolutely flat. 812 01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:02,920 And then, he added moles. 813 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,520 A mole here, can you see it? And one a little further down. 814 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,679 I feel like I've known him my whole life. 815 01:05:09,759 --> 01:05:13,800 There's something very familiar, very wonderful. 816 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,880 A very intelligent, very kind man. 817 01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:20,840 And, how do you say? He sees big. 818 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,520 Would you do a small part for him? 819 01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:25,679 I would do anything with Federico. 820 01:05:25,759 --> 01:05:30,199 He was such an extraordinary man, capable of turning 821 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,679 into a gentle knight even if a woman wasn't that beautiful. 822 01:05:33,759 --> 01:05:37,480 He complimented her until she felt like a star. 823 01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:42,960 I was amazed, but also looked at Federico with much fondness, 824 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:48,039 because he was such a Casanova. I wish men were all like him! 825 01:05:48,119 --> 01:05:50,679 - How are you? - Very well, thank you. 826 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,599 - From Switzerland to meet you. - Please, be my guest. 827 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,520 Women have always been exalted by Fellini, 828 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,759 even when he criticized them, or made fun of them. 829 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:09,000 But obviously, women are essential for Fellini and for all of us. 830 01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:11,079 Federico, what do I say now? 831 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:15,079 - What do I say? - I don't know. 832 01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:20,759 It has always been said that Mastroianni was Fellini's alter ego. 833 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,079 What's the question? 834 01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:25,679 Has anything changed between "8 & 1/2" and "City of Women"? 835 01:06:25,759 --> 01:06:27,639 Talk about the last time you... 836 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,759 - What has changed since "8 & 1/2"? - I don't know, Marcello. 837 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,480 They were two companions... 838 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,039 ...we can say of the same age. 839 01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:44,800 Mastroianni was a few years younger. 840 01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:51,520 They've become tangled. Go, Marcellino. 841 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,480 Laugh, talk. That's it. 842 01:06:57,559 --> 01:06:58,960 Thank you, good night. 843 01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:02,679 Come here for a moment, listen. 844 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,000 Girls! Good night. 845 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,880 He's always loved women. 846 01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:14,400 Therefore, also in this film, 847 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,559 which was called "City of Women", 848 01:07:17,759 --> 01:07:22,280 it's easy to see the love he felt 849 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,759 for us girls. 850 01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:27,000 Sisters, it was all for nothing. 851 01:07:27,079 --> 01:07:29,480 The eyes of that man, of that male, 852 01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:34,239 who wanders among us with his face fake-respectful, intelligent, 853 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,440 with the false intent to get to know each one better. 854 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,119 Because he says that knowing us better, he can change his relationship with us. 855 01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:47,440 And of all the lies he told, of all the justifications, 856 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,360 of all lies, this is the most despicable one! 857 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,520 This text was written by Liliana Betti 858 01:07:54,759 --> 01:07:58,480 to emphasize all the negative attitudes 859 01:07:58,719 --> 01:08:01,960 of Fellini's character towards women. 860 01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:06,960 Then the text was read by one of the feminists. 861 01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:10,639 The eyes of that man are the eyes of the male of all time, 862 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:17,000 that deform everything he sees in the mirror of slur and mockery. 863 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,320 The rascal is always the same, he hasn't changed. 864 01:08:22,639 --> 01:08:26,559 If you pretend to care about us, it is to better control us, 865 01:08:26,639 --> 01:08:30,799 to keep us forever in the darkness of your harem. 866 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,759 For this intellectual buffoon, of the worst kind, 867 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,799 who hypocritically proclaims he wants to support us, 868 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,679 to understand and defend us better. 869 01:08:42,759 --> 01:08:48,799 We are only his pretexts to form for the umpteenth time his circus... 870 01:08:48,879 --> 01:08:50,200 You lower your head. 871 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,480 ...his bestiary. You lower your head. 872 01:08:52,759 --> 01:08:54,160 ...his zoo! 873 01:08:56,599 --> 01:08:59,400 And we're there to be clowns, bayaderes. 874 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,360 He wants to make us laugh 875 01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:05,400 about things we couldn't even cry about. 876 01:09:06,559 --> 01:09:07,999 Stop, all right. 877 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,200 The relationship with Giulietta... She was the Wife. 878 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,919 The wife he respected. 879 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,799 How nice! 880 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,480 Thank you. 881 01:09:19,959 --> 01:09:22,240 Best wishes from the crew. 882 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:31,679 However, all married people try to carve out their freedom. 883 01:09:31,759 --> 01:09:35,919 He kept her in high regard, showed her great respect, 884 01:09:36,559 --> 01:09:38,520 but also apprehension, 885 01:09:38,599 --> 01:09:42,320 because beside being his wife, she was also his daughter. 886 01:09:42,639 --> 01:09:44,679 They had a baby, 887 01:09:44,759 --> 01:09:50,200 but for a short time, she lived barely a month. 888 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:56,400 So, with Giulietta, he took on a fatherly attitude 889 01:09:56,639 --> 01:09:58,559 becoming protective. 890 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,919 If there was something which might upset her 891 01:10:01,999 --> 01:10:05,879 he did everything to reassure her and comfort her. 892 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,919 All right, thank you. 893 01:10:09,999 --> 01:10:13,639 It's our silver wedding anniversary, see you at the golden one! 894 01:10:14,599 --> 01:10:16,360 Nice wishes! 895 01:10:16,679 --> 01:10:23,080 Recently, I've seen "Amarcord" at the House of Cinema in Rome. 896 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,879 That little theatre was full of people of all ages. 897 01:10:26,959 --> 01:10:31,639 Everyone was moved, I heard them laughing even more than when it came out, 898 01:10:31,719 --> 01:10:35,280 which means that this film has became even more enjoyable 899 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,879 compared to when it was first released. 900 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,040 Fellini's films are timeless, 901 01:10:44,559 --> 01:10:46,959 and will always remain timeless. 902 01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:50,879 They've entered the empyrean realm of great cinema. 903 01:10:50,999 --> 01:10:53,719 They're universal, eternal films. 904 01:10:53,799 --> 01:10:56,759 They can even be defined as philosophical. 905 01:10:56,839 --> 01:10:58,999 But above all, it is the love 906 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,080 for a way of representing life, the others. 907 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,120 There are some artists 908 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:11,599 in human history, that go beyond mere comparison. 909 01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:17,440 They dwell in such a high dimension, which keeps them outside the debate 910 01:11:17,719 --> 01:11:23,320 of whether they're popular, learned, intellectual, immediate, appreciated. 911 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:28,320 They live on another planet, they go outside, over and beyond. 912 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,320 Like Beethoven. 913 01:11:32,919 --> 01:11:34,879 Then she starts vocalizing. 914 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,839 Last time I saw him before I left 915 01:11:40,919 --> 01:11:43,200 for America to make a movie. 916 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,200 Go, David. David, go to Mr. Dong! 917 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,799 He wasn't well. He felt a little sick. 918 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,400 He was still thinking about projects. 919 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:59,480 We were out of touch, I'd seen him a couple of times in Cinecittà. 920 01:11:59,559 --> 01:12:02,759 And at some point I learned he hadn't been well. 921 01:12:02,839 --> 01:12:07,400 My shyness blocked me, even though I wanted to go and see him, 922 01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:09,240 to comfort him. 923 01:12:09,599 --> 01:12:10,599 Ready? 924 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,280 Silence. 925 01:12:15,759 --> 01:12:18,120 But I was shy. 926 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,879 I was afraid of such a giant, such a personality 927 01:12:22,959 --> 01:12:29,080 so full of culture, of images, of music, of everything. 928 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:39,799 The last time I saw Federico he was in hospital. 929 01:12:39,879 --> 01:12:42,759 We chatted and joked. 930 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:49,320 Even then, he still made flattering comments, like a great latin lover. 931 01:12:49,799 --> 01:12:51,559 He mentioned Valeria Marini. 932 01:12:51,759 --> 01:12:55,559 He had drawn the beautiful backside of actress Valeria Marini. 933 01:12:55,879 --> 01:13:01,360 And on that drawing he had written: "I'd like to live here." 934 01:13:04,799 --> 01:13:08,799 The last time I saw him was in a bar where we met 935 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,280 to talk about a film he had to make in Italy. 936 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,759 Soon after, I got called to the States for another movie. 937 01:13:15,839 --> 01:13:18,679 And a little later, Federico got sick. 938 01:13:18,879 --> 01:13:24,440 I had a phone call with Giulietta. She was crying. 939 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,280 I told her I was sorry to be away in the United States. 940 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:33,599 She said: "Don't worry, he knows how close you are to him." 941 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,200 I last saw him when... 942 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,160 he wasn't very well... 943 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,639 He was in a clinic in Rome. 944 01:13:49,919 --> 01:13:54,520 I never saw him again... We talked on the phone. 945 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,679 His voice was no longer his own. 946 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,839 But even so, it is that phone call... 947 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,719 that stays with me. 948 01:14:09,719 --> 01:14:12,839 Eventually, his death was announced. 949 01:14:12,919 --> 01:14:16,320 I was in Lombardy, I was in Milan. 950 01:14:16,919 --> 01:14:20,080 I came to Rome for the funeral. 951 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:37,280 I remember seeing on television, in America, 952 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:40,400 Fellini's funeral inside Stage 5. 953 01:14:40,999 --> 01:14:45,919 I had the opportunity and the courage to film the funeral. 954 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,160 And that scene of Stage 5... 955 01:15:11,959 --> 01:15:14,919 that sort of official celebration... 956 01:15:14,999 --> 01:15:19,200 I thought Fellini wouldn't have liked that funeral. 957 01:15:19,839 --> 01:15:23,999 At night, I dreamt of Fellini's funeral in a complete different way. 958 01:15:24,879 --> 01:15:26,999 I think it came from him. 959 01:15:43,559 --> 01:15:48,360 People like Federico Fellini won't come again. 960 01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:51,200 There won't be another Fellini. 961 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,959 Surely, his heir will not be a 'Fellinian'. 962 01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:01,959 He won't be someone that tries to remake nuns, dwarfs, Rome and the circus, 963 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,959 because Fellini used to say, 964 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,600 after a suggestion: "I've already done it." 965 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,440 I never stopped talking to him. 966 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,120 Some people will always remain imprinted on your mind. 967 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:23,240 Among them, there is Fellini and a whole group of directors I've worked with. 968 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,959 It's like with beehives, 969 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,360 some have more honey and some have less. 970 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,520 He's the one who's left me with so much in life. 971 01:16:37,599 --> 01:16:41,080 And first of all, he taught me so much. 972 01:16:43,719 --> 01:16:46,919 A big loss... 973 01:16:47,599 --> 01:16:51,280 To me, Fellini is not just a memory. 974 01:16:51,839 --> 01:16:55,040 He's something completely alive... 975 01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:00,480 because I keep telling everything I can about him. 976 01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:05,400 People we loved are always in our hearts. 977 01:17:05,759 --> 01:17:11,200 When a genius dies, it's as if a light goes out. 978 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,400 And we have one light less. 979 01:17:20,759 --> 01:17:23,480 "City of Women", final scene 1/1. 980 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,360 When they ask me in which city I'd like to live 981 01:17:33,839 --> 01:17:37,679 "London? Paris? Rome?" 982 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,520 I say: "In the end, if I have to be honest... 983 01:17:42,759 --> 01:17:44,120 ...Cinecittà". 74535

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