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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,883 --> 00:00:08,651 "Boardwalk Empire" provided an incredible backdrop 2 00:00:08,686 --> 00:00:12,255 which we could tell stories about politics, race relations, 3 00:00:12,289 --> 00:00:15,508 and, really, the formation of modern America. 4 00:00:15,542 --> 00:00:17,543 The beauty of doing these shows 5 00:00:17,578 --> 00:00:20,647 is exploring characters over the course of, 6 00:00:20,681 --> 00:00:23,251 hopefully, three, five years. 7 00:00:24,184 --> 00:00:27,153 We told the story of Nucky as a leader and as a person, 8 00:00:27,187 --> 00:00:31,224 seeing through his eyes and with the backdrop of the prohibition years. 9 00:00:31,258 --> 00:00:33,192 That's exactly the story we set out to tell 10 00:00:33,227 --> 00:00:34,744 and I'm really proud of the way we did it. 11 00:00:34,778 --> 00:00:37,664 I certainly feel proud of the work that we've done, 12 00:00:37,698 --> 00:00:40,199 and I feel like we're leaving the audience with something 13 00:00:40,234 --> 00:00:42,836 that they can enjoy for years to come. 14 00:00:43,262 --> 00:00:47,429 - sync and corrections by Zac - - www.addic7ed.com - 15 00:00:47,608 --> 00:00:49,609 - Background. - Sound. 16 00:00:49,611 --> 00:00:51,444 Camera. 17 00:00:51,495 --> 00:00:55,198 Somewhere back in 2007, I had been given the book "Boardwalk Empire" 18 00:00:55,249 --> 00:00:57,684 by an executive at HBO, 19 00:00:57,718 --> 00:01:00,119 who told me Martin Scorsese was attached to this project. 20 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:02,155 It was a history book, basically. 21 00:01:02,189 --> 00:01:04,157 It was the history of Atlantic City. 22 00:01:04,191 --> 00:01:05,575 The Eureka moment for me came 23 00:01:05,609 --> 00:01:07,860 when I read the chapter about Nucky Johnson, 24 00:01:07,862 --> 00:01:10,163 who we, of course, fictionalized as Nucky Thompson. 25 00:01:10,197 --> 00:01:12,782 This guy was a TV series waiting to happen. 26 00:01:12,833 --> 00:01:14,534 In less than two hours, 27 00:01:14,585 --> 00:01:17,203 liquor will be declared illegal by decree 28 00:01:17,254 --> 00:01:20,123 of the distinguished gentlemen of our nation's congress. 29 00:01:22,126 --> 00:01:25,211 To those beautiful, ignorant bastards. 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,899 The period we chose to focus on was the prohibition years... 31 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:31,651 1919 to the early '30s. 32 00:01:31,702 --> 00:01:35,972 And they were an incredibly tumultuous time in the United States. 33 00:01:36,006 --> 00:01:37,757 In terms of the casting process, you know, 34 00:01:37,759 --> 00:01:39,842 first and foremost, we needed our Nucky. 35 00:01:39,893 --> 00:01:41,260 We wanted to know who the guy was 36 00:01:41,262 --> 00:01:43,229 that we were going to be building this series around. 37 00:01:43,263 --> 00:01:47,016 I got a call from Terry Winter and he told me that I had the part. 38 00:01:47,051 --> 00:01:50,386 I said, you know, "we'd like to cast you in this role." 39 00:01:50,421 --> 00:01:53,222 I said, "I know you're still considering other actors", 40 00:01:53,307 --> 00:01:55,858 but I just really appreciate you thinking of me." 41 00:01:55,893 --> 00:01:57,877 He almost talked himself out of it. 42 00:01:57,928 --> 00:02:01,164 But I said, "no, this is the call. We want you to do it." 43 00:02:01,198 --> 00:02:04,667 And he says, "no, Steve. I'm offering you the part." 44 00:02:04,701 --> 00:02:06,903 - What do you want, Mickey? - Come on, Nuck. 45 00:02:06,954 --> 00:02:09,155 I come to youse hat in hand. 46 00:02:09,206 --> 00:02:11,324 When I auditioned, I did the thing 47 00:02:11,375 --> 00:02:13,276 that I kind of do as Mickey Doyle... 48 00:02:13,327 --> 00:02:15,478 With the voice and the laugh. 49 00:02:15,529 --> 00:02:18,598 As I was leaving, Ellen Lewis, the casting director, 50 00:02:18,632 --> 00:02:20,716 said, "can you come back in and do it again?" 51 00:02:20,768 --> 00:02:22,301 And this time, they want you to try... 52 00:02:22,303 --> 00:02:25,471 Just don't do any of that that you just did. 53 00:02:25,506 --> 00:02:27,473 So I did it and, I mean, it was awful. 54 00:02:27,508 --> 00:02:29,709 I mean, it was terrible. Or at least I thought it was awful. 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,829 As I approached my first day with Mr. Scorsese, 56 00:02:32,863 --> 00:02:34,881 I wasn't totally sure 57 00:02:34,915 --> 00:02:38,251 which character had gotten the part. 58 00:02:38,318 --> 00:02:40,336 And no one told me. 59 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:42,088 - My pal Meyer. - Mickey Doyle. 60 00:02:42,139 --> 00:02:43,473 How do you do? 61 00:02:43,507 --> 00:02:46,509 I had an audition for an 18-year-old, 62 00:02:46,543 --> 00:02:49,095 tough, Jewish kid 63 00:02:49,129 --> 00:02:50,997 from the Lower East Side of Manhattan. 64 00:02:51,031 --> 00:02:55,218 And I thought, "I'm 30, I'm from London", 65 00:02:55,269 --> 00:02:57,286 and how am I gonna pull this off?" 66 00:02:57,321 --> 00:02:59,856 - Mr. Thompson. - Torrio's man. 67 00:02:59,890 --> 00:03:02,758 I was at home when the phone went and it was Marty. 68 00:03:02,793 --> 00:03:04,260 He just went to me, "hello, kid. How you doing?" 69 00:03:04,311 --> 00:03:06,095 I was like, "yeah, I'm okay." 70 00:03:06,146 --> 00:03:07,155 He was like, "look, I've got this thing. 71 00:03:07,156 --> 00:03:08,164 'Boardwalk Empire.'" 72 00:03:08,198 --> 00:03:11,450 I was like, "oh, okay." And he went, "I'd love you to play Al Capone." 73 00:03:11,502 --> 00:03:14,487 I went, "yeah, sure. Okay." 74 00:03:14,521 --> 00:03:17,039 I went in. I read. 75 00:03:17,090 --> 00:03:18,416 They said, "we'd like you to meet Marty." 76 00:03:18,417 --> 00:03:19,742 This is all the same day. 77 00:03:19,776 --> 00:03:21,861 Spent about an hour and a half 78 00:03:21,895 --> 00:03:25,698 talking about growing up Italian in New York. 79 00:03:25,732 --> 00:03:28,568 At which point I said, "Marty, do you want me to read for you?" 80 00:03:28,619 --> 00:03:30,369 And he said, "yeah, yeah. Read." 81 00:03:30,404 --> 00:03:32,588 I read for him, he said, "go to wardrobe." 82 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,291 First I auditioned for one of the boat captains. 83 00:03:35,325 --> 00:03:38,361 And then I heard that they were thinking about me for the brother. 84 00:03:38,395 --> 00:03:42,064 And so it, uh, you know, got kicked up a notch. 85 00:03:43,433 --> 00:03:45,768 You know, the peculiar thing is that 86 00:03:45,802 --> 00:03:48,137 at the same time the feds are raiding Mickey, 87 00:03:48,172 --> 00:03:51,274 this shit's happening three miles away. 88 00:03:51,308 --> 00:03:53,409 Ain't that a coincidence. 89 00:03:53,443 --> 00:03:55,578 Is there anything you want to say or should I? 90 00:03:58,515 --> 00:04:01,083 - Background. - And action. 91 00:04:01,151 --> 00:04:04,570 The first day on set was a good first day for me 92 00:04:04,621 --> 00:04:06,422 'cause I didn't have any dialog. 93 00:04:06,456 --> 00:04:10,293 The Winter of '88, a blizzard of biblical proportions. 94 00:04:10,327 --> 00:04:12,728 Martin Scorsese was directing and I thought, 95 00:04:12,779 --> 00:04:14,797 "okay, I can get through the first day." 96 00:04:14,831 --> 00:04:18,834 I had on this costume... Very tough to wear 97 00:04:18,869 --> 00:04:21,287 in front of all these people you didn't know, you know? 98 00:04:21,338 --> 00:04:23,589 And then I had to leap up into his arms 99 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,209 and I just heard this... 100 00:04:26,260 --> 00:04:27,994 All the way up the back. 101 00:04:27,996 --> 00:04:30,329 We all had to go in another room and sew it up. 102 00:04:30,331 --> 00:04:32,365 It was just sort of horrifying. 103 00:04:32,416 --> 00:04:34,617 My first day on set was actually that scene with Michael. 104 00:04:34,651 --> 00:04:38,487 One of the crew members, Charlie, he sort of took me aside and said, 105 00:04:38,522 --> 00:04:40,506 "you know, you need to work on your accent a little bit." 106 00:04:40,508 --> 00:04:42,675 And I was like, "but I'm shooting in a minute." 107 00:04:42,677 --> 00:04:44,010 So I asked Marty if I could have 10 minutes. 108 00:04:44,011 --> 00:04:45,344 He went, "yeah, sure, sure, sure." 109 00:04:45,395 --> 00:04:48,331 And Charlie sat with me and I really listened to Charlie's accent. 110 00:04:48,365 --> 00:04:50,399 And I went in and I had to... you know, 111 00:04:50,450 --> 00:04:53,152 I had to shake hands with Michael and say, "I'm Al Capone." 112 00:04:53,186 --> 00:04:55,304 - Nice talking to you. - You, too. 113 00:04:55,355 --> 00:04:57,390 - Jimmy Darmody. - Al Capone. 114 00:04:57,392 --> 00:04:58,774 All right, Al. 115 00:04:58,809 --> 00:05:01,160 It was one of them moments where my sphincter 116 00:05:01,211 --> 00:05:03,446 was going about 90 Miles an hour. 117 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,431 I remember the first table read. 118 00:05:05,433 --> 00:05:09,235 I was dressed in my audition suit and had worn a bow tie. 119 00:05:09,286 --> 00:05:11,387 And, of course, I was the only one there dressed up. 120 00:05:11,438 --> 00:05:13,739 I felt ridiculous. 121 00:05:13,774 --> 00:05:16,943 My first table read was, um, nerve-racking. 122 00:05:16,994 --> 00:05:19,378 The main thing that stood out to me 123 00:05:19,413 --> 00:05:21,631 was that I was the only black in the room. 124 00:05:21,665 --> 00:05:23,416 I was just like, "wow." 125 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:27,520 I had never been the only black in anything before. 126 00:05:27,522 --> 00:05:30,573 My first day on set was like a 14-hour day. 127 00:05:30,607 --> 00:05:32,892 And they were like, "okay, it's time to go." 128 00:05:32,894 --> 00:05:35,661 And I remember Mr. Scorsese was like, "we're done? We're done?" 129 00:05:35,712 --> 00:05:37,046 Like, that's it? That's all we got?" 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,664 I feel like I'm back in the '70s. 131 00:05:38,699 --> 00:05:40,449 I found out what it was to work with Marty. 132 00:05:40,484 --> 00:05:42,251 It's like 2:00 in the morning, he comes in, he goes, 133 00:05:42,286 --> 00:05:46,689 "great! Perfect! Really good! Perfect! Let's do a few more." 134 00:05:46,723 --> 00:05:48,224 Fine town, Chicago. 135 00:05:48,258 --> 00:05:50,293 Yeah, well, it ain't New York, that's for sure. 136 00:05:50,327 --> 00:05:52,194 New York ain't New York now with prohibition. 137 00:05:52,229 --> 00:05:54,196 It will be if I have something to say about it. 138 00:05:54,231 --> 00:05:58,034 It sounds to me like it brings us to the business portion of our meeting. 139 00:05:58,068 --> 00:05:59,568 In light of recent developments, 140 00:05:59,603 --> 00:06:02,271 I thought it might be a mutual benefit for you boys to meet. 141 00:06:04,207 --> 00:06:08,044 I don't recall having had 142 00:06:08,095 --> 00:06:11,013 a more satisfying experience 143 00:06:11,048 --> 00:06:15,084 with the words that I've been offered to act with. 144 00:06:15,135 --> 00:06:16,635 I like this room. 145 00:06:16,670 --> 00:06:20,306 One looks down in secret and sees many things. 146 00:06:21,475 --> 00:06:24,560 - You know what I saw? - Nah. 147 00:06:24,594 --> 00:06:29,015 A servant pretending to be a king. 148 00:06:29,066 --> 00:06:33,119 It's just been deeply satisfying every episode. 149 00:06:33,153 --> 00:06:35,454 Terry Winter, of course, leading the charge. 150 00:06:35,456 --> 00:06:37,056 Howard Korder as well. 151 00:06:37,058 --> 00:06:38,891 I had been a fan of Howard Korder's 152 00:06:38,893 --> 00:06:41,027 for a long time before I actually met him. 153 00:06:41,061 --> 00:06:44,747 I had met with Terry and Tim when they were 154 00:06:44,781 --> 00:06:47,767 starting to put things together and looking for writers. 155 00:06:47,801 --> 00:06:52,054 He read the pilot, I offered him the job, and he said, "no." 156 00:06:52,105 --> 00:06:55,324 And I called him and I said, "well, that's not the right answer." 157 00:06:55,359 --> 00:06:56,609 That's not how this is supposed to go. 158 00:06:56,611 --> 00:06:58,310 "It's supposed to be yes, of course." 159 00:06:58,345 --> 00:07:03,049 I had worked on a TV series decades earlier. 160 00:07:03,083 --> 00:07:04,850 I really didn't think it was for me. 161 00:07:04,885 --> 00:07:07,837 I said, "I assure you it'll be completely different." 162 00:07:07,888 --> 00:07:10,005 And just give it a couple months, 163 00:07:10,057 --> 00:07:12,475 and if you hate it, great, no harm, no foul. 164 00:07:12,509 --> 00:07:14,226 "If you like it, you know, stay." 165 00:07:14,261 --> 00:07:18,831 And so it seemed like a better idea to say yes than no. 166 00:07:18,882 --> 00:07:21,000 Do you have a suspect? 167 00:07:21,051 --> 00:07:23,252 Waxey Gordon comes to mind. 168 00:07:23,303 --> 00:07:25,004 - Naturally. - But it's not Waxey. 169 00:07:25,006 --> 00:07:28,340 Because Waxey would have to clear it with you and you would've said no 170 00:07:28,392 --> 00:07:30,426 because you're in business with me. 171 00:07:30,477 --> 00:07:31,927 That could be what I want you to think. 172 00:07:31,978 --> 00:07:34,947 It could, but I doubt it. 173 00:07:34,981 --> 00:07:37,233 How can you be sure? 174 00:07:37,267 --> 00:07:39,435 Because if you were trying to be obvious, 175 00:07:39,486 --> 00:07:42,104 you'd never be that obvious. 176 00:07:42,155 --> 00:07:45,107 This is why I enjoy our conversations. 177 00:07:45,158 --> 00:07:47,743 The larger narrative arcs 178 00:07:47,778 --> 00:07:50,196 are incredibly well-considered. 179 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:53,482 But then the detail that's added 180 00:07:53,517 --> 00:07:56,218 once, you know, you receive the first draft, 181 00:07:56,253 --> 00:07:58,554 then you'll receive something that you slightly tweak. 182 00:07:58,588 --> 00:08:00,022 If it's the night before shooting, 183 00:08:00,056 --> 00:08:02,942 and sometimes the morning of shooting, sometimes during shooting, 184 00:08:02,976 --> 00:08:06,245 if there's a better line of dialog, it'll go in. 185 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:08,247 In one episode, 186 00:08:08,281 --> 00:08:10,249 um, Howard Korder came back 187 00:08:10,283 --> 00:08:13,669 with a little tweak to a side scene. 188 00:08:13,703 --> 00:08:17,223 - And the line was... - The negro in question. 189 00:08:17,225 --> 00:08:20,059 And I read... 190 00:08:20,093 --> 00:08:22,011 And I read that 191 00:08:22,062 --> 00:08:25,264 and I just laughed out loud 192 00:08:25,315 --> 00:08:27,149 because it was so... 193 00:08:27,184 --> 00:08:30,436 It was just the perfect accent 194 00:08:30,487 --> 00:08:33,189 to the scene that had preceded it. 195 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,943 And it was also so wonderfully authentic. 196 00:08:37,994 --> 00:08:41,747 And I said to myself, "wow." 197 00:08:41,781 --> 00:08:45,034 Howard must be a negro in disguise 198 00:08:45,085 --> 00:08:46,869 "to have written this." 199 00:08:46,903 --> 00:08:48,754 It is not an exaggeration to say 200 00:08:48,756 --> 00:08:50,389 I could not have done this show without him. 201 00:08:50,423 --> 00:08:52,341 The show would not have been half as good 202 00:08:52,392 --> 00:08:54,426 without Howard Korder's involvement. 203 00:08:54,478 --> 00:08:56,428 We've been on the road for 18 hours. 204 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:59,648 I need a bath, some chow... 205 00:09:01,485 --> 00:09:03,569 And then you and me sit down 206 00:09:03,603 --> 00:09:06,655 and we talk about who dies, huh? 207 00:09:06,690 --> 00:09:09,525 The best thing that can happen when you're writing 208 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,994 in this serialized world 209 00:09:12,028 --> 00:09:16,065 is you discover things you had no idea you were going to do. 210 00:09:16,099 --> 00:09:18,567 We're creating this series as it goes along. 211 00:09:18,602 --> 00:09:22,221 So very often I don't share with the cast where their characters are going 212 00:09:22,223 --> 00:09:24,373 or where the story arcs are going because we're not settled on it. 213 00:09:24,407 --> 00:09:26,442 I think part of the process 214 00:09:26,493 --> 00:09:29,628 of not showing the actors what they're going to be doing next 215 00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:32,131 provides a surprise for them. 216 00:09:32,182 --> 00:09:34,049 And it certainly keeps you in the moment. 217 00:09:34,084 --> 00:09:35,734 Margaret always surprised me. 218 00:09:35,736 --> 00:09:37,570 I thought I knew what she was all about 219 00:09:37,604 --> 00:09:39,405 and she gets the job in the dress shop 220 00:09:39,439 --> 00:09:41,907 and then she steals something. 221 00:09:41,942 --> 00:09:43,642 And I was like... 222 00:09:43,677 --> 00:09:45,694 "She's not a thief. This can't be." 223 00:09:45,745 --> 00:09:48,080 - Good evening, Madame Jeunet. - Bonsoir. 224 00:09:48,114 --> 00:09:49,732 And so many things that were a shock to me... 225 00:09:49,766 --> 00:09:51,267 I thought, "well, that's quite good 226 00:09:51,318 --> 00:09:53,068 'cause it'll be a shock to the people watching." 227 00:09:53,103 --> 00:09:55,771 Early on, there have been debates with actors about... 228 00:09:55,805 --> 00:09:57,773 They want to know what's gonna happen. 229 00:09:57,807 --> 00:09:59,441 I said, "well, if it turns out that the actor 230 00:09:59,442 --> 00:10:01,076 you're playing in a scene with" 231 00:10:01,111 --> 00:10:02,995 in three episodes is your mortal enemy, 232 00:10:03,029 --> 00:10:04,613 I don't want you to know that now. 233 00:10:04,664 --> 00:10:07,349 I don't want you to play that even subconsciously, 234 00:10:07,384 --> 00:10:08,867 "so you really shouldn't know that." 235 00:10:10,787 --> 00:10:12,504 You've had your last meal in this place. 236 00:10:12,539 --> 00:10:14,757 Looking very respectable, James. 237 00:10:14,791 --> 00:10:17,393 - What did he promise you? - More than you ever did. 238 00:10:17,444 --> 00:10:20,195 I keep my promises. And I'll make you one now. 239 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:22,898 I will ruin you. All of you. 240 00:10:22,933 --> 00:10:26,285 It was all very cloak and dagger, which I thought was brilliant. 241 00:10:26,319 --> 00:10:28,154 Why should we know everything that's going on 242 00:10:28,155 --> 00:10:29,989 if we don't know it as a character? 243 00:10:30,023 --> 00:10:33,909 So I was very happy to sort of watch it as an audience member, 244 00:10:33,944 --> 00:10:36,911 as a sort of... as an avid viewer when it came out. 245 00:10:37,714 --> 00:10:39,265 I watched him 246 00:10:39,299 --> 00:10:42,835 from a blind for three days. 247 00:10:42,869 --> 00:10:46,005 He lifted it to scratch his nose. 248 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:48,073 I put a bullet 249 00:10:48,108 --> 00:10:50,075 one inch below his eye. 250 00:10:51,511 --> 00:10:55,281 It's really hard to pick a favorite Chalky scene. 251 00:10:55,315 --> 00:10:56,932 There are so many beautiful moments 252 00:10:56,967 --> 00:10:59,318 that I'm so proud of the way they turned out. 253 00:10:59,352 --> 00:11:02,605 But I would go with the scene 254 00:11:02,656 --> 00:11:04,807 with him and the ku klux klan member. 255 00:11:04,841 --> 00:11:06,425 I ain't building no bookcase. 256 00:11:06,459 --> 00:11:09,895 I was born in Elgin, Texas. 257 00:11:09,946 --> 00:11:12,398 My daddy taught himself the carpenter trade 258 00:11:12,449 --> 00:11:14,450 doing for the black folk there. 259 00:11:14,484 --> 00:11:16,635 The ancestral energy 260 00:11:16,686 --> 00:11:19,471 that I tapped into for that particular scene 261 00:11:19,522 --> 00:11:21,540 was real intense for me. 262 00:11:21,591 --> 00:11:23,709 These here are my daddy tools. 263 00:11:23,743 --> 00:11:25,911 What are you gonna do with them? 264 00:11:25,913 --> 00:11:28,977 I ain't building no bookcase. 265 00:11:30,216 --> 00:11:32,001 One of my favorite scenes was the scene 266 00:11:32,052 --> 00:11:35,487 where I pick up Eli from prison 'cause I got to drive a car. 267 00:11:35,522 --> 00:11:36,855 How, big chief. 268 00:11:36,857 --> 00:11:39,458 Which way to the little big horn? 269 00:11:39,509 --> 00:11:40,793 How, big chief. 270 00:11:40,827 --> 00:11:42,344 Which way to the little big horn? 271 00:11:42,379 --> 00:11:44,496 No luggage, right? 272 00:11:44,547 --> 00:11:46,865 Anytime I got to wind people up, it was good. 273 00:11:46,867 --> 00:11:49,702 The fight scene that Nucky and his brother had, 274 00:11:49,736 --> 00:11:51,003 I think, was one of the highlights. 275 00:11:51,054 --> 00:11:52,671 It took us two days to shoot. 276 00:11:52,706 --> 00:11:54,123 I slapped Shea. 277 00:11:54,174 --> 00:11:56,709 He's that kind of actor that says, "no, just do it." 278 00:11:56,743 --> 00:11:58,711 I said, "are you sure?" He goes, "yeah, just do it." 279 00:11:58,745 --> 00:12:01,313 You come crawling back here because you don't have the balls 280 00:12:01,348 --> 00:12:02,681 to finish what you started. 281 00:12:02,732 --> 00:12:05,167 We did quite a number of takes of me slapping Shea 282 00:12:05,201 --> 00:12:06,935 and I think it was very painful for him. 283 00:12:06,970 --> 00:12:11,690 Deborah. Hannah. 284 00:12:11,692 --> 00:12:13,509 I always enjoyed the moments 285 00:12:13,543 --> 00:12:15,661 that were the more humane moments. 286 00:12:15,695 --> 00:12:18,263 Like he's trying to name his daughter. 287 00:12:18,265 --> 00:12:19,715 Abigail. 288 00:12:19,766 --> 00:12:21,566 I thought that was interesting. 289 00:12:22,435 --> 00:12:25,437 My favorite scene was in season four 290 00:12:25,472 --> 00:12:28,190 when Ron Livingston's character lifts the veil 291 00:12:28,224 --> 00:12:30,976 and she's just so blindsided. 292 00:12:31,010 --> 00:12:33,762 You and I are here. 293 00:12:33,797 --> 00:12:36,131 Together. 294 00:12:36,182 --> 00:12:38,217 That's all that matters. 295 00:12:38,268 --> 00:12:41,433 When she discovers that he was playing her... 296 00:12:41,468 --> 00:12:42,771 You get that? 297 00:12:42,806 --> 00:12:45,758 That look of sheer shock and horror 298 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,510 that was in her face broke my heart. 299 00:12:48,561 --> 00:12:50,996 And the way they shot it, sort of up above 300 00:12:50,998 --> 00:12:52,548 when she runs down the stairs 301 00:12:52,582 --> 00:12:55,634 and then sort of almost like an animal trapped... 302 00:12:55,668 --> 00:12:56,568 I'll never forget it. 303 00:12:56,603 --> 00:12:58,420 One of my favorite scenes is 304 00:12:58,455 --> 00:13:00,305 Gyp's scene in season three 305 00:13:00,356 --> 00:13:02,591 when all the gangsters are sitting 'round 306 00:13:02,625 --> 00:13:04,543 and he verbally destroys everyone. 307 00:13:04,577 --> 00:13:07,062 You smug, kike midget. 308 00:13:07,097 --> 00:13:10,232 Creeping around like a fucking dentist with the ether. 309 00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:11,683 Why don't you watch your fucking step? 310 00:13:11,685 --> 00:13:13,936 Why don't you go sit in the corner, short pants? 311 00:13:13,987 --> 00:13:16,422 And then there's you. 312 00:13:16,456 --> 00:13:19,441 Fucking breadstick in a bow tie. 313 00:13:19,492 --> 00:13:20,959 I really enjoyed that. 314 00:13:20,994 --> 00:13:22,961 So what are you saying, Mr. White? 315 00:13:22,996 --> 00:13:25,063 About what? 316 00:13:25,098 --> 00:13:28,567 About my buying, let us say, 317 00:13:28,601 --> 00:13:31,403 1,000 cases of spirited... 318 00:13:31,438 --> 00:13:36,558 Liquor directly from you to our mutual benefit. 319 00:13:36,709 --> 00:13:38,610 Cut out the middleman. 320 00:13:40,613 --> 00:13:43,982 A lot of the fun in getting cast on this 321 00:13:44,017 --> 00:13:46,985 was the fact that Terry Winter was involved. 322 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:49,988 You're not gonna turn down the chance to work with Terry. 323 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:51,807 It just was a no-brainer. 324 00:13:51,841 --> 00:13:54,359 When Terry comes down to set, it's like dad coming down. 325 00:13:54,361 --> 00:13:56,094 Everyone's so well-behaved. 326 00:13:56,096 --> 00:13:58,247 When I think back of working with Terry, 327 00:13:58,281 --> 00:14:00,666 I think of him as a proud father 328 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:02,851 and his children are his words. 329 00:14:02,886 --> 00:14:04,586 You do understand 330 00:14:04,621 --> 00:14:07,523 I'm the only thing keeping you from a lynch mob? 331 00:14:07,557 --> 00:14:10,809 You ready... 332 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:13,445 For what happens here? 333 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,648 I turn up on the end of a rope. 334 00:14:16,699 --> 00:14:20,219 When you work with Terry, be in for some really intense writing. 335 00:14:20,253 --> 00:14:23,255 Of course, I had already been a fan of his work on "Sopranos" 336 00:14:23,306 --> 00:14:25,390 and the script of "Wolf of Wall Street." 337 00:14:25,425 --> 00:14:27,759 I was really impressed with his clear vision 338 00:14:27,794 --> 00:14:30,295 for what "Boardwalk Empire" could be. 339 00:14:30,330 --> 00:14:34,366 And with his enthusiasm and his vision and insight, 340 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,785 it was pretty obvious he'd be the right showrunner. 341 00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:40,339 Terry writing at the height of his talent 342 00:14:40,373 --> 00:14:42,808 and then Tim Van Patten, who is a maestro... 343 00:14:42,810 --> 00:14:44,209 It's as good as it gets. 344 00:14:44,211 --> 00:14:46,745 Tim Van Patten was the first person 345 00:14:46,747 --> 00:14:49,248 I spoke to about joining me 346 00:14:49,299 --> 00:14:51,049 as we embarked on "Boardwalk Empire." 347 00:14:51,084 --> 00:14:53,535 Gangsters and history 348 00:14:53,570 --> 00:14:56,638 and, you know, ensemble. 349 00:14:56,673 --> 00:14:58,357 There was no way I wasn't gonna do it. 350 00:14:58,359 --> 00:14:59,858 Tim, like Howard, 351 00:14:59,893 --> 00:15:03,812 is so incredibly responsible for how terrific this show is. 352 00:15:03,847 --> 00:15:07,115 It wouldn't be a quarter of what it is, you know... 353 00:15:07,150 --> 00:15:10,068 Or wait, I said a half for Howard... Also, Tim's the other half. 354 00:15:10,070 --> 00:15:12,371 Okay, it would not be half of what it is without Howard. 355 00:15:12,405 --> 00:15:14,489 So the two halves of those guys make up the whole. 356 00:15:14,541 --> 00:15:16,708 I don't even need to be involved in this. It's really... it's them. 357 00:15:16,743 --> 00:15:20,879 Tim is everywhere at all times. And thank goodness. 358 00:15:20,881 --> 00:15:24,049 He's just one of those people that you just know is keeping everything going. 359 00:15:24,551 --> 00:15:27,119 Hey, enough with the bohunk cracks. Name's Duffy now. 360 00:15:27,153 --> 00:15:29,288 - What? - I changed it. 361 00:15:29,322 --> 00:15:31,723 I ain't Mickey Kuzik no more. 362 00:15:31,758 --> 00:15:34,493 - Who's after you? - Nobody. 363 00:15:34,527 --> 00:15:37,095 - Then why Duffy? - It sounds better is all. 364 00:15:37,130 --> 00:15:39,731 A rose by any other name. 365 00:15:41,367 --> 00:15:43,402 When you think of a TV show, 366 00:15:43,436 --> 00:15:47,039 you pretty much think of, you know, being in a studio 367 00:15:47,090 --> 00:15:50,425 and occasionally going out to a location. 368 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:52,644 "Boardwalk" was the exact opposite. 369 00:15:56,883 --> 00:15:59,268 My favorite location was John's restaurant. 370 00:15:59,319 --> 00:16:02,671 There we were, dressed as Meyer Lansky, Lucky Luciano, 371 00:16:02,722 --> 00:16:05,924 Arnold Rothstein, and Joe Masseria sitting in the back of John's 372 00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:09,194 as they might have done, you know, those many years before. 373 00:16:09,228 --> 00:16:12,164 Knowing that these characters actually inhabited that space 374 00:16:12,198 --> 00:16:15,550 and it was Joe Masseria's headquarters, it was just fun. 375 00:16:15,585 --> 00:16:18,086 Four deuces. That was me favorite location. 376 00:16:18,121 --> 00:16:22,224 It was really this beautiful mini estate 377 00:16:22,258 --> 00:16:24,676 in bedford-stuyvesant that was once 378 00:16:24,711 --> 00:16:27,846 the country home of F.W. Woolworth. 379 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,666 It was just always fun in there, do you know what I mean? 380 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:33,151 Not the fact that there was scantily clad women everywhere, 381 00:16:33,186 --> 00:16:35,787 but it was just a fun set, it was a really fun set. 382 00:16:35,822 --> 00:16:38,156 I really liked being in Babette's. 383 00:16:38,158 --> 00:16:40,759 I thought that was fun when there was entertainment. 384 00:16:40,793 --> 00:16:43,595 It was hard to concentrate on what you were meant to be doing. 385 00:16:43,630 --> 00:16:46,131 It's a very distracting show to work on. 386 00:16:46,182 --> 00:16:49,718 The sets have always been perfect in the detail. 387 00:16:49,752 --> 00:16:53,338 When you show up in the morning and you see the amount of work 388 00:16:53,373 --> 00:16:56,858 that's been put into that, it really gets your blood pumping. 389 00:16:56,893 --> 00:17:00,028 'Cause your blood's not always pumping really hard at 5:00 in the morning. 390 00:17:00,063 --> 00:17:02,597 The set design has been quite amazing. 391 00:17:02,632 --> 00:17:05,267 The detail and the sense of place 392 00:17:05,318 --> 00:17:08,754 and mood through place has been really spectacular. 393 00:17:08,788 --> 00:17:10,806 I'm always very cautious of sort of 394 00:17:10,857 --> 00:17:14,393 not overdesigning something or overdoing something 395 00:17:14,395 --> 00:17:16,278 'cause that isn't the point. 396 00:17:16,312 --> 00:17:18,347 The point is to support the story 397 00:17:18,381 --> 00:17:20,882 and help reinforce the characters. 398 00:17:20,917 --> 00:17:25,253 By far my favorite set was the Onyx Club. 399 00:17:25,288 --> 00:17:27,339 That was another time I would just pinch myself. 400 00:17:27,341 --> 00:17:30,042 Just be like, "this is for me? 401 00:17:30,076 --> 00:17:31,877 Really? I'm a part of this?" 402 00:17:31,911 --> 00:17:35,564 Wallpaper from England, curtain hand-painted in New York. 403 00:17:35,598 --> 00:17:38,483 - These chandeliers? - Sconces. 404 00:17:38,518 --> 00:17:40,268 They custom-made in Paris. 405 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:42,371 I don't think the audience will ever really know 406 00:17:42,405 --> 00:17:46,174 the amount of detail they put into making that Onyx Club. 407 00:17:46,209 --> 00:17:47,442 It was beautiful. 408 00:17:47,477 --> 00:17:50,629 Step right up, friends. What you waiting for? 409 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,916 Lovely ladies direct from Paris, France. 410 00:17:54,951 --> 00:17:57,636 - Don't be afraid, fellas. - That original boardwalk set 411 00:17:57,638 --> 00:18:01,323 that we only had for three seasons was pretty magical. 412 00:18:01,357 --> 00:18:04,276 For the first two years, every time I would turn the corner 413 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:06,795 and look up and see that thing, it would take my breath away. 414 00:18:06,846 --> 00:18:09,464 It was, I believe, the largest standing set 415 00:18:09,499 --> 00:18:12,701 in New York film history since 1915. 416 00:18:12,735 --> 00:18:13,919 When it was finished, 417 00:18:13,953 --> 00:18:15,454 Terry and I were walking down this thing 418 00:18:15,456 --> 00:18:18,173 and we're going, "holy shit." 419 00:18:18,224 --> 00:18:20,559 If we don't pull this off, we're in trouble." 420 00:18:20,593 --> 00:18:22,260 So... 421 00:18:22,311 --> 00:18:25,480 I'd turn up on the boardwalk and there'd be an elephant there. 422 00:18:25,515 --> 00:18:28,233 Crazy, amazing extras. 423 00:18:28,267 --> 00:18:30,385 Rudy the Congo creep. 424 00:18:30,436 --> 00:18:32,104 Hoppy the frog boy. 425 00:18:32,138 --> 00:18:33,755 Every time I was there, it was such an experience. 426 00:18:33,790 --> 00:18:35,874 When Marty first came to the boardwalk, 427 00:18:35,876 --> 00:18:39,010 started at one end... It was like 300 feet to walk. 428 00:18:39,012 --> 00:18:40,546 And I was there throughout the building of 429 00:18:40,547 --> 00:18:42,080 the whole thing from the very beginning, 430 00:18:42,082 --> 00:18:44,716 so I know where all the secret spots are. 431 00:18:44,751 --> 00:18:48,670 And he's going down the set and he's looking and says, "oh, that's lovely." 432 00:18:48,721 --> 00:18:50,138 That's lovely. That's a good angle there." 433 00:18:50,173 --> 00:18:51,757 I'm going, "oh, he found that angle." 434 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:54,760 And then, "oh, that's lovely. That's a lovely angle, too." 435 00:18:54,794 --> 00:18:56,528 Went right to every spot. 436 00:18:56,562 --> 00:18:57,996 I'm thinking, "what am I gonna do? 437 00:18:58,047 --> 00:18:59,731 I think so, too." 438 00:18:59,766 --> 00:19:03,001 While you were on that boardwalk, you were there. 439 00:19:03,052 --> 00:19:05,203 The Ferris wheel, the lights, 440 00:19:05,254 --> 00:19:07,038 the children running up and down. 441 00:19:07,073 --> 00:19:10,492 So beautifully designed, created, painted, 442 00:19:10,526 --> 00:19:13,188 and filmed exquisitely. 443 00:19:13,896 --> 00:19:16,131 There's a broad looking to see you. 444 00:19:16,165 --> 00:19:18,200 She's been waiting for over an hour. 445 00:19:18,234 --> 00:19:20,402 She says it's urgent. 446 00:19:20,436 --> 00:19:22,104 She's pregnant. 447 00:19:22,138 --> 00:19:23,505 What? 448 00:19:23,539 --> 00:19:27,008 - You met her last night. - Last night? 449 00:19:27,043 --> 00:19:28,643 She saw you talk or something. 450 00:19:28,678 --> 00:19:31,346 Ah, ah, the "temperaments" league. 451 00:19:32,249 --> 00:19:35,484 One of the more exciting things about starting a new season of "Boardwalk" 452 00:19:35,518 --> 00:19:37,636 was seeing what suits you had for the season. 453 00:19:37,687 --> 00:19:42,207 We fit every leading character and every background person. 454 00:19:42,258 --> 00:19:44,810 Every... every single one was fit to a T. 455 00:19:44,844 --> 00:19:48,113 John Dunn has people in undergarments, period undergarments. 456 00:19:48,115 --> 00:19:50,765 We're not gonna see them, but they're in them. 457 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,083 They're in them. 458 00:19:52,118 --> 00:19:54,452 Costumes are very, very important to me, 459 00:19:54,504 --> 00:19:55,787 as most things are in film, 460 00:19:55,822 --> 00:19:58,273 but costumes I have a special attachment to 461 00:19:58,307 --> 00:20:00,425 in creating character and time. 462 00:20:00,459 --> 00:20:02,777 Sometimes I would be on set 463 00:20:02,812 --> 00:20:05,247 and I would maybe be feeling like, 464 00:20:05,281 --> 00:20:09,201 "do I really have the right, you know, Nucky vibe here?" 465 00:20:09,235 --> 00:20:11,236 And then I would catch just a glimpse of myself 466 00:20:11,238 --> 00:20:12,938 in a reflection and I wouldn't see me. 467 00:20:12,989 --> 00:20:14,239 I mean, I would see the character. 468 00:20:14,273 --> 00:20:16,324 I was like, "oh, I'm okay. I'm okay." 469 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,194 - I ran the odds on the way down. - On what? 470 00:20:19,228 --> 00:20:21,830 Whether you'd attempt to kill me. 471 00:20:21,864 --> 00:20:25,467 - What'd you come up with? - 14-1 against. 472 00:20:25,518 --> 00:20:28,670 We have wardrobe people all helping dress 473 00:20:28,704 --> 00:20:31,189 and tie the ties and do the cuff links 474 00:20:31,224 --> 00:20:32,741 and adjust the suspenders. 475 00:20:32,792 --> 00:20:35,443 And Michael really took it upon himself 476 00:20:35,478 --> 00:20:37,479 to learn to do all of these things. 477 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:39,281 Here I am in my room 478 00:20:39,315 --> 00:20:42,734 and I'm using the time to get dressed 479 00:20:42,785 --> 00:20:44,836 as a way to get into character. 480 00:20:44,838 --> 00:20:47,339 And then all of a sudden you get a knock on the door, 481 00:20:47,423 --> 00:20:49,307 "can I tie your bow tie?" 482 00:20:50,726 --> 00:20:52,510 You know, my world is blown. 483 00:20:52,562 --> 00:20:56,531 So in order to keep that momentum and keep that vibe going, 484 00:20:56,582 --> 00:20:58,500 I learned how to tie a bow tie. 485 00:20:58,551 --> 00:21:01,136 Michael Stuhlbarg tied a bow tie, 486 00:21:01,187 --> 00:21:02,971 which is almost impossible, 487 00:21:03,022 --> 00:21:05,774 during a take, perfectly. 488 00:21:05,808 --> 00:21:09,861 I am lucky to remember my lines. 489 00:21:09,912 --> 00:21:12,764 The collars, the spats, 490 00:21:12,798 --> 00:21:16,701 the cuff links, the bow tie, the hats. 491 00:21:16,752 --> 00:21:18,403 You dress for battle 492 00:21:18,405 --> 00:21:20,959 in a way that I don't today. 493 00:21:21,741 --> 00:21:24,142 I have a friend, a judge. 494 00:21:24,176 --> 00:21:25,644 His daughter's wedding's in a week. 495 00:21:25,678 --> 00:21:27,512 I'd like to be able to accommodate him and... 496 00:21:27,546 --> 00:21:29,481 The 700 guests. 497 00:21:29,515 --> 00:21:30,938 You haven't stockpiled? 498 00:21:30,939 --> 00:21:33,290 Mm, all sold already. I'm coming up short. 499 00:21:33,819 --> 00:21:36,721 Obviously, there have been many features 500 00:21:36,756 --> 00:21:38,523 set during the prohibition period. 501 00:21:38,525 --> 00:21:41,076 But there have been very few television series 502 00:21:41,127 --> 00:21:44,379 and none which really dealt specifically with Atlantic City. 503 00:21:44,413 --> 00:21:47,949 As the new head of prohibition enforcement in Atlantic City, 504 00:21:47,984 --> 00:21:51,419 I do intend to take my duties with the utmost seriousness. 505 00:21:51,470 --> 00:21:54,139 - What? - That was a joke. 506 00:21:54,173 --> 00:21:56,975 I was joking. I thought you might all appreciate that. 507 00:21:57,009 --> 00:21:59,694 The scope of "Boardwalk" was amazing 508 00:21:59,729 --> 00:22:02,147 in terms of taking it from the beginning 509 00:22:02,198 --> 00:22:04,699 when there was no organized crime, 510 00:22:04,734 --> 00:22:08,470 through when we leave off, the beginning of the syndicate. 511 00:22:08,504 --> 00:22:11,273 There's a kind of depraved warmth 512 00:22:11,307 --> 00:22:13,642 that emanates from the show 513 00:22:13,693 --> 00:22:16,645 and this strange comfort that you find 514 00:22:16,679 --> 00:22:19,814 in exploring this dangerous world 515 00:22:19,849 --> 00:22:23,034 through the lens of these characters. 516 00:22:23,069 --> 00:22:27,822 Most stories will take fictional characters 517 00:22:27,873 --> 00:22:30,158 and have them be the witness 518 00:22:30,209 --> 00:22:32,210 to historical characters 519 00:22:32,244 --> 00:22:34,879 whereas "Boardwalk" does a kind of reverse. 520 00:22:34,914 --> 00:22:37,415 - Meyer. - Nucky. 521 00:22:37,466 --> 00:22:39,484 - Hello. - Been a while. 522 00:22:39,486 --> 00:22:41,820 - A.R.'S funeral. - Sad day. 523 00:22:41,822 --> 00:22:43,471 Rest his soul. 524 00:22:43,506 --> 00:22:45,407 This was a great opportunity to explore characters 525 00:22:45,441 --> 00:22:49,311 that people knew, but didn't necessarily know as younger men. 526 00:22:49,362 --> 00:22:51,062 You know, the opportunity to meet Al Capone 527 00:22:51,113 --> 00:22:54,716 as the guy who's driving the other guy's car was irresistible for me. 528 00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:57,002 I really loved them little scenes where he's at home 529 00:22:57,053 --> 00:22:59,437 with his boy or with his wife or with his mother, 530 00:22:59,472 --> 00:23:01,956 with his brothers around the table eating dinner 531 00:23:01,991 --> 00:23:03,742 and fighting on the floor and stuff like that. 532 00:23:03,793 --> 00:23:06,394 I really enjoyed that. 533 00:23:06,429 --> 00:23:07,996 No, ma, they're horsing around. 534 00:23:08,047 --> 00:23:09,998 What?! 535 00:23:10,032 --> 00:23:12,751 What makes it work for me as an audience member 536 00:23:12,753 --> 00:23:15,704 is that it's not just about gangsters. 537 00:23:15,738 --> 00:23:17,088 It's about a whole world. 538 00:23:17,139 --> 00:23:20,125 Along with all the beautifully presented 539 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:23,094 explosions and machine-gun fire, 540 00:23:23,129 --> 00:23:26,598 we actually have shown a lot more of American culture, 541 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,901 American history than maybe people have noticed. 542 00:23:29,952 --> 00:23:32,620 The dynamic between men and women 543 00:23:32,655 --> 00:23:34,406 was highlighted in a number of different ways. 544 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,642 I come from a country where women already have the right to vote. 545 00:23:37,676 --> 00:23:40,061 Well, in this country, 546 00:23:40,096 --> 00:23:43,598 we're simply trying to protect women from the hard truths of life. 547 00:23:43,649 --> 00:23:46,918 By denying them the right to take a meaningful part in it? 548 00:23:46,952 --> 00:23:50,638 I would hope that people really appreciate 549 00:23:50,689 --> 00:23:54,776 that world of early 20th century 550 00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:57,462 African-American history that was explored. 551 00:23:57,464 --> 00:23:59,764 How we worked with each other 552 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,400 and how we interacted with the white community. 553 00:24:02,435 --> 00:24:06,237 - Chalky White, the proprietor. - Welcome. 554 00:24:06,272 --> 00:24:08,156 I'ma shout out to chicken bone beach. 555 00:24:08,190 --> 00:24:13,261 My hope always is that we are delivering 556 00:24:13,295 --> 00:24:17,449 smart, dark entertainment for adults. 557 00:24:23,389 --> 00:24:28,443 Thou hast fulfilled the judgment of the wicked! 558 00:24:29,578 --> 00:24:31,813 Part of doing a gangster show, 559 00:24:31,864 --> 00:24:34,449 sadly, is that characters die. 560 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:36,301 And when characters die, 561 00:24:36,335 --> 00:24:38,920 the boss has to call the actor portraying that character 562 00:24:38,954 --> 00:24:40,972 to tell them that they're written off the show. 563 00:24:41,023 --> 00:24:43,441 I was lying in bed next to my girlfriend at 1:00 in the morning 564 00:24:43,476 --> 00:24:47,412 and I got the sides and I turned to her and I was like, "yeah, I die." 565 00:24:47,446 --> 00:24:49,531 She was like, "what do you mean?" She goes, "does it say that?" 566 00:24:49,582 --> 00:24:52,150 I go, "no, it doesn't say it. I just know I die." 567 00:24:52,152 --> 00:24:53,568 A couple of days later, 568 00:24:53,619 --> 00:24:56,721 I got a message on my phone saying, "can you call Terry?" 569 00:24:56,755 --> 00:24:58,756 And that's the phone call everyone knows. 570 00:24:58,808 --> 00:25:00,542 So I was like, "I definitely die." 571 00:25:00,576 --> 00:25:03,445 He goes, "Mike, you know, it's that inevitable call that I hate making." 572 00:25:03,496 --> 00:25:05,113 I says, "how does he go?" 573 00:25:05,147 --> 00:25:09,050 He says, "trust me. It's going to be beautiful and graceful." 574 00:25:09,084 --> 00:25:11,136 I said, "that's all I can ask." 575 00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:15,006 I think Terry felt worse for me than I did. 576 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,276 He said, "it's just the way we were moving the script." 577 00:25:18,278 --> 00:25:21,913 I said, "okay, thank you. I appreciate it," you know. 578 00:25:21,947 --> 00:25:24,999 And I drank two bottles of scotch and a gallon of... 579 00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:27,519 No, I didn't do any of that. 580 00:25:27,553 --> 00:25:29,904 When I called Bob Clohessy, 581 00:25:29,939 --> 00:25:32,640 who played ward boss Jim Neary, 582 00:25:32,675 --> 00:25:34,592 I said, "Bob, it's Terry Winter." 583 00:25:34,627 --> 00:25:36,511 He said, "oh, I guess I'm dead." 584 00:25:36,545 --> 00:25:39,030 I've always been a little worried that he's gonna say, 585 00:25:39,081 --> 00:25:42,083 "I think now, you know, finally, 586 00:25:42,117 --> 00:25:44,285 it's time that you made this call." 587 00:25:44,336 --> 00:25:45,970 But fortunately that has not happened. 588 00:25:46,021 --> 00:25:47,805 One day I did get a message 589 00:25:47,857 --> 00:25:50,275 from Terry Winter's assistant saying... 590 00:25:50,309 --> 00:25:54,045 Asking if I could call back, and he never called. 591 00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:55,580 And I was like, "oh, okay." 592 00:25:55,614 --> 00:25:59,033 I remember one time I didn't answer my phone 593 00:25:59,068 --> 00:26:01,836 and I get a, "hey, it's Terry. Give me a shout." 594 00:26:01,887 --> 00:26:04,088 And I turn to my wife and I said, 595 00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:06,424 "it's been a nice run. It's done." 596 00:26:06,458 --> 00:26:08,042 Before I phoned him back, 597 00:26:08,093 --> 00:26:12,564 I told my husband, you know, "I think that's us done." 598 00:26:12,598 --> 00:26:15,650 And I think I held the phone, like, "hey, Terry"... 599 00:26:15,684 --> 00:26:17,185 Went in my upper register, "how you doing?" 600 00:26:17,236 --> 00:26:19,988 And I called back and it was something completely... 601 00:26:20,022 --> 00:26:22,156 I think he was inviting me to something. 602 00:26:22,191 --> 00:26:24,509 I think he said, "you know, listen, we'll do a steak." 603 00:26:24,543 --> 00:26:25,877 Why don't we get a steak?" 604 00:26:25,928 --> 00:26:28,680 "Yeah, a steak would be great, man." 605 00:26:28,714 --> 00:26:30,999 "You all right?" "Yeah, yeah. I'm good. I'm good." 606 00:26:31,033 --> 00:26:34,219 I don't think he had any idea, you know, what... 607 00:26:34,253 --> 00:26:37,539 What was happening at the other end of the phone. 608 00:26:37,573 --> 00:26:40,191 I wasn't sure, actually, 609 00:26:40,193 --> 00:26:41,826 whether I was gonna go or not. 610 00:26:41,877 --> 00:26:43,661 I may not be able to be killed by a bullet, 611 00:26:43,712 --> 00:26:45,413 but I could certainly be killed by the pen. 612 00:26:45,447 --> 00:26:49,017 Vinnie Piazza and, you know, Stephen Graham would say, 613 00:26:49,068 --> 00:26:51,269 "well, you can't kill me, I'm Al Capone, I'm Lucky Luciano." 614 00:26:51,271 --> 00:26:53,771 And I said, you know, "until we do the episode where we reveal" 615 00:26:53,822 --> 00:26:58,109 that you're actually an imposter and the real Al Capone comes in and..." 616 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,228 I kind of was met with these blank looks. 617 00:27:00,262 --> 00:27:02,530 There have been a couple of times when I arrived to set 618 00:27:02,565 --> 00:27:05,934 and one of these scripts that I'm not allowed to read, 619 00:27:05,985 --> 00:27:07,569 I'm certain of it, there have been 620 00:27:07,603 --> 00:27:10,788 some dead Mickey Doyles in there that have been rewritten. 621 00:27:10,823 --> 00:27:14,709 Could you ask him to put the gun away? 622 00:27:15,911 --> 00:27:17,629 Please? 623 00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:23,477 The first rule of show business is to get off 624 00:27:23,478 --> 00:27:25,320 the stage while people still want more 625 00:27:25,354 --> 00:27:27,238 and I think we're there. 626 00:27:28,674 --> 00:27:30,908 It's really bittersweet 627 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,696 because it's been such a huge part of my life for five years. 628 00:27:34,747 --> 00:27:37,131 You must please come this way. 629 00:27:37,182 --> 00:27:39,417 You can just feel it in the air on set 630 00:27:39,468 --> 00:27:42,353 that it's, you know, very intense and very emotional. 631 00:27:42,388 --> 00:27:44,539 I am really sad about it, 632 00:27:44,573 --> 00:27:47,792 but I'm incredibly grateful that I got to experience this 633 00:27:47,826 --> 00:27:49,677 in the trajectory of my own career. 634 00:27:49,712 --> 00:27:52,196 I'm gonna miss it. It's been such a great ride. 635 00:27:52,247 --> 00:27:53,998 All good things, you know? 636 00:27:54,033 --> 00:27:55,984 You look up and five years... 637 00:27:56,035 --> 00:27:58,903 Five years of your life. The end of an era. 638 00:28:01,924 --> 00:28:04,993 It's part of your life and it's been good. 639 00:28:05,027 --> 00:28:07,412 Could be worse. 640 00:28:07,446 --> 00:28:10,481 The ability to tell the story over 56 hours 641 00:28:10,516 --> 00:28:12,550 gave us the incredible luxury 642 00:28:12,552 --> 00:28:15,203 of being able to explore our characters, 643 00:28:15,254 --> 00:28:17,021 their relationships to one another, obviously, 644 00:28:17,056 --> 00:28:20,241 and as a storyteller, this is as good as it gets. 645 00:28:25,193 --> 00:28:31,014 - sync and corrections by Zac - - www.addic7ed.com - 52729

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