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(Gentle electronic music)
I was working in the two
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jobs and someone came in and said,
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oh, you could do stripping
and modeling and stuff.
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So I thought โoh, that
would be really goodโ.
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(Gentle electronic music)
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I'm a model, a kink model.
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I do bdsm bondage, I do custom
films, and I work for quite big studios.
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Everything kink related.
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Whatever you like
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for all your kink based needs come to me.
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Yeah. I would say that the fetish stuff is
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getting more popular,
actually, if anything.
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Yeah, I do really enjoy the shoots.
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It used to be lovely when youโd have,
like, your makeup done, your hair done.
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Because when I used to
do it, I was quite like, into it
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that I had all sorts of
different people messaging me.
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I can do whips and canes
and all that kind of thing as well.
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Chains, gags, blindfolds.
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You can have like gimp masks.
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I tell you what is built my
confidence, my self esteem.
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It's made me love who I am, whether I've
put on weight, whether I'm skinny or not.
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But then it's also given me that
drive to look after myself more. Yeah.
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Throughout the years my fans
have grown and grown and grown,
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some have followed me
from the very beginning
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and some have come
in for the last few years
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since the magazine
edits and things like that.
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We live in this weirdly pro sexuality age
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where you can identify
as anything you please.
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I can say that I'm gay or straight
or a man or people or anything.
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Everyone's fine.
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But if you actually start touching
anybody or taking pictures of yourself,
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touching anybody, that's somehow
horrifying and something to be hidden away
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and I think that's a real
shame because sex is really fun.
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It's a great stress reliever,
it's a great mood enhancer,
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and I think we need an awful lot
more of it in the world rather than less.
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Yeah, I mean, some people do
have quite a negative opinion about it.
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They even think that you're a slut,
that you, you know, you go around
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sleeping with these
photographers or you're easy.
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You know, some
people find it disrespectful
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to women that you
could be naked or topless,
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but I find it quite empowering
if you can get paid to do it.
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And sometimes if someone's quite
mean about it, it's normally jealousy.
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Which is crazy because it's flown by.
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But it's amazing.
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I enjoy it. I love it.
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(Electronic music)
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(Ambient music)
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I was working in childcare.
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I was working in a nursery
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before I started modeling.
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So I got into modeling because
I got spotted by an agent
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just locally in my hometown,
asked me to some photoshoots.
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So I went and did some photoshoots.
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And then from there he
started finding me work.
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So I had him by my side for quite a while.
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And then once I've got confidence
and I was able to get my shoots
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and things were just coming flying
in, then I didn't use him anymore
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and he was happy to then help someone else.
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So it was it was really nice
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since I was 17,
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so about 13 years now. Iโm
32 this year, which is scary.
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But yeah, I was thinking about
that the other day,
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about how long I've been
modeling and yeah, 13 years,
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which is crazy because
it's flown by, but it's amazing.
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I enjoy it.
I love it.
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No, I have no regrets.
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No, obviously I won't do
porn and things like that,
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but I have turned it down a lot
and I turn it down on the weekly.
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But no, it's not something I regret.
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Itโs built my confidence
up. I had no confidence.
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I had a lot of mental health
and things before I was a model.
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I had a bit of a rough
background, so actually.
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Yeah, it's actually built my
confidence and self esteem
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and it's made me learn
to love my body how it is.
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So I do go to the gym and I
do keep fit, but at the same time
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I still indulge in all the takeaways
and the junk food and the alcohol.
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So yeah, I've learned to live
the best life and the normal life,
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but also just to learn to love
myself. And that's thanks to modeling.
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And so I don't regret it one bit.
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I wouldn't say there's been
reservations about going into modeling,
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but I have had the odd kind of clashes.
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Like I said before, about things like
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people making fake
profiles and taking my photos
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and reporting me for things I haven't
done to try and bring me back down.
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So a lot of trolling, but you kind of
get used to the trolling over the years.
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So now I just kind of laugh at it.
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When I first started going to
the gym, I had a personal trainer
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and he would train me
and I trained with him
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for as long as I started getting
comfortable with what I was doing.
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And then I took it on myself
and just did my own workouts.
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And I follow a lot of
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people on Instagram
that do a lot of training
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because there's a lot of stuff on there
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that you can learn and
follow so that comes in handy.
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So yeah, I do do my own
specific workouts, but for me.
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So my shoots are varied really, so I
can shoot from anything from lingerie
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to nude to art nude to
fetish, to all various of styles.
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They can vary from
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indoor studio shoots to
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location shoots, whether
it's rivers up on the moors.
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They could be on train stations,
bus stations in the middle of public,
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absolutely everywhere and anywhere.
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So they can vary from time to time.
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I'm afraid of the needle and
the gun, the noise of the gun.
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So yeah, I if it was up
to me, I'd have a sleeve.
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But no, I haven't got any
tattoos, so I'm not planning
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really on having any at the moment.
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So my, at the moment, my
typical start to shoot is art nude.
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So going to places and doing
artistic poses, balancing on
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rocks and rivers and things
that are very beautiful and scenic
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and just adding natural art nudes into it.
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I'm doing a lot of fetish
stuff at the moment,
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so a lot of queries on
like foot fetishes stuff,
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bondage, whips, chains, ties, pvc
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leathers and things like that.
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Yeah, I would say that the fetish stuff
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is getting more popular,
actually, if anything.
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Yeah, I would say so.
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For me at, the moment it seems to be pvc
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and being tied up,
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I don't know whether that's because I look
like the sweet, innocent girl next door.
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So seeing the other side and
with whips and things like that.
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So yeah, it's quite dominant isn't it.
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So it's quite nice for them to see.
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That's what they want to see.
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Yeah.
So I fetish work and I do art nude.
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I won't do any open leg stuff, I don't do
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porn, I won't do full frontal nude.
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I kind of like the thought and idea of
of leaving something to the imagination.
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So I think if your boobs out and
everything else is enough to see
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so I like to kind of
keep it stylish, keep it
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kind of artistic and classy.
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So it was probably a few years
ago now, I did a photoshoot
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with late photographer
that sadly passed away,
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so we did a studio shoot
for a group, photographers
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group of models, and
we did a vampire shoot.
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So I was the victim and
we had seven female models
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from the south-west and we
all got together and we had hair
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and makeup done costumes, and
they suck the blood out of me, basically.
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And it was great fun and it was nice
to have different photographers around.
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So we were doing all
sorts of different things.
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But yeah, it was, it was really fun
and it was just different and yeah,
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and it was nice to meet other models
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because you don't really meet other models
unless you're shooting together. We're
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all in the same area or you've purposely
reached out to them to talk to them.
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So yeah, it's quite nice to actually
interact and meet other models.
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Yeah, it was like a Halloween theme.
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And then he used it for his
billboards around his studio
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for advertising and things to get people
that did different types of photography
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and recording and
films and things like that.
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It was kind of a track for things
like that, and it did and it was great.
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So generally when I'm doing modeling, they,
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the photographer, tell
me exactly what he wants
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for the images, or I will ask
like, what are you using them for?
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And generally is advertising.
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A lot of it is for advertising.
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The shoot is their shops,
their products, their clothing.
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It'll be posters, billboards, calendars,
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their own private posters.
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So so they sell private posters
and things like that, private footage.
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So if anyone requests sites,
certain foot things or certain fetishes
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kind of style stuff, then we
can put that into the shoot
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and then they buy that off us as
advertising from the company as well.
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So it's yeah, it all links in
somewhere along the line.
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Yeah. I've had photoshoots where
I've been asked to do work with feet
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so I'm not really a foot person
but for the job and the photographer
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and what they want, then I will do it.
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Yeah. Put in peanut butter, between my
toes, beads, necklaces between my toes
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squidging, my feet in, like.
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Like, you know, I can't explain it under
the sand or the sand under the sea.
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Kind of like, the grime
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but things like that.
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So yeah, so weird feet
things at the moment.
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It must be Dartmoor
because of all the views
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and the scenery and all the animals.
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So it's a beautiful place to be shooting.
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And they've also got lots of
hidden rivers and beautiful spots.
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So you get some beautiful
places to actually go and see.
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We are in Tiverton right now.
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It is very scenic.
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It's a beautiful river.
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Yeah, it's somewhere that you could easily
shoot either in the water or above it.
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There's lots of flowers
around, so it's lovely.
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Yeah. Every photographer has
what he's specifically looking for.
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So whether normally it's a point of
they will say, you really suit my look
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and the style I'm looking generally
because I'm a blank canvas being natural,
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no fillers, no things
like that, no tattoos.
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So generally it's harder to actually
find those types of girls these days.
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So that's just what they're looking for.
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So it be that sort of thing.
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Having the girl next door look
kind of helps and then having
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that kind of sinister side
to it is just a winner really.
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So yeah, different photographers,
different styles, different ideas.
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And after shooting, after a while,
you kind of bounce ideas off each other.
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Anyway, so it kind of works really nicely,
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generally through either my
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emails or through the modeling sites.
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Either that or through word of mouth.
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They will get my number because I have
got a separate number for my modeling.
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And so they will contact me for that
and say who they've got my number from
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and whether or not
it's okay if that's okay.
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And can we shoot?
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Yeah, I do get photographers
that will say, would you do art nude?
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And I say, yes, but I won't do
open leg or full frontal naked.
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And they go, yeah, that's fine.
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And then on the photo shoot, they're like,
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oh, well, would you put
this, would you do that?
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And like, open your legs against the wall.
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But I did do one risky shoot
recently and a fire issue
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and I was fully nude, I was open leg
and I had the flames in between my legs
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so you couldn't see anything.
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So it was kind of like
the it was the vision of
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and the imagination of it, really.
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But yeah, that was good fun.
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But no, nothing.
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I would just keep doing.
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So I had this photographer who basically
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I was booked for a up to lingerie shoot.
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So up to lingerie only
and throughout the shoot
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he was giving little
compliments, which is nice.
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A lot of photographers compliment
you and keep you out of shooting.
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You have a lot of banter and it's great.
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This photographer was a bit too... Like
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if you bend over like little bit
more, I can see this and it's like,
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all right, mate, go on, youโre
meant to be professional.
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And then it's like, oh,
can you take your bra
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strap down? I'm like, okay.
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You know, I'm still covered up.
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So what's the difference to a
little bra strap? And then it will be
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can you undo the back
and just hold the front?
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I was like, yeah, okay,
that's fine. So still covered.
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So did that did back shots, front shots.
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Absolutely fine.
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And then it's like the sleazy comments
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good or your body is absolutely
amazing or you're gorgeous.
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So I bet guys fall for you all the time.
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And I was like, I'm a little
bit different level here.
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And then it was a case of, oh,
could you just drop one bra cup?
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And I'm like, no, no, sorry,
it's not what we're doing.
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And then it's a case of, oh, well,
what about showing a little bit of thong?
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Okay, I'll do that, Iโll
show a bit of thong,
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you know, itโs still
lingerie and all that.
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So I did that. That was absolutely fine.
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And then after a few, he was like,
โwould you pull the thong to the side?โ
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and I was like, โno, like, come on!โ
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so I was in a seductive,
all fours pose, basically.
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And he was circling me, which is fine.
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Iโm in lingerie.
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And then he was basically saying to me,
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could you move your back
just in this way to the left?
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But the way he was explaining
it was not a normal way
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you would have a pose.
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So he was like, do you if
I just move you a second?
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And I thought, okay, thinking he's just
going to touch a part of me or something.
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But he didn't.
He put his hand on his stomach
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and on my back and like glide his hand
across my back and across my stomach.
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And I was like, that's just too much.
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That's like, that's touching me and moving
me and asking me to move certain ways.
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I suppose there's a limit
when you're stroking me
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and just gently brushing me and
know that it's just too much, just too far.
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And then he asked if I'd move my thong
to the side and I was like, โthat's it.
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I'm done with this photo shoot now.
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You know, it's kind of like
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we have been doing this an
hour and a half, 2 hours or so.
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So let's kind of wrap this up.
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And then I think it was
about, oh, two weeks later.
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So I was talking to the photographer
and he was asking me about
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other girls that have said of other
things, other models and asked me
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what kind of things happened.
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So I explained it and he said,
look, I have got something to tell you.
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Last week I was at his studio
and I was working alongside him.
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But he isn't using your
photos for what he said.
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So it was meant to be for a
calendar and doing something else.
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And he wasn't. He was actually
using it for his own personal use.
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And from then on I felt really grossed out
because at the end of day, photographers
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that professional, they get in their work
for certain things to do certain things
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not to play with themselves over.
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I'm sure at some point that happens
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maybe in editing and things like
that, but so did know that blatantly.
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He's got me in for a shoot
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and then tried to push my levels
and then just that kind of thing.
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Yeah.
No, it's overstepping the Mark.
283
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Do you know what? I think models only
actually talk once they crossed on shoots.
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So if you've done shoots together
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or group shoots and things like that,
then yeah, a lot of you stay in touch.
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But a lot of the time, no,
generally models don't really talk.
287
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I think it's very a very independent
thing unless you're working together.
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Yeah.
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Yes, I would consider
art nude to be artistic.
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It's more about the body form
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and appreciating the art of the
body and how beautiful the body is.
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And everybody's different.
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Everybody looks different
and everybody really should just
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love themselves and actually
go in there and make it artistic.
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Use your body.
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And there's so many beautiful
surroundings to add to that art as well.
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So my friends and my family
have all known what I've done
298
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because I've done it for 13 years.
299
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They've all kind of got
to grips with what I do.
300
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I don't think anyone really surprises
them any more, but that's great.
301
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Yeah, I think there is a stigma.
302
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I do get some men that
will just message me again.
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They'll send me a picture of that,
you know, and just like fancy a play.
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I'm like, no.
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And I just kind of
remove them off the site.
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I just get really rude,
kind of suggestive stuff.
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Or I had literally this morning
I had someone saying,
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even though I have a Mrs., I
would be at your door every day.
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And I was like, well, that's not right.
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No wonder women are
insecure. See you later.
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And so yeah, there is
that kind of attachment.
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Oh, you get you get naked.
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So you must just have sex with
anyone or you must just do porn
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or you must do everything.
315
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It's like, no, there's, there's
a limit for me anyway.
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Yes, I throughout the
years I've gained many fans,
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some nice, some not so nice,
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some a bit too sordid for me, shall I say?
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But yeah, generally they've
stemmed throughout the years so
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and some have stayed all throughout
the 14, 13 years and stayed in contact and
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and just followed me on anything
that I'm on and then some are new
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like come through Instagram,
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through other modeling
sites and things like that.
324
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And yeah, there are a
lot. Too much is I feel mean
325
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because I can't always reply to
everybody, but I do try my best.
326
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Yeah, I get a lot of compliments.
327
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I get a lot of people in my
inbox. It's very hard to keep up.
328
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So some people think I'm
very rude and not replying,
329
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but actually I have a busy life,
so it's hard to reply to everybody.
330
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But yeah, I do get lovely
compliments and then I get people like,
331
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oh, would you try this next
and would you do that next?
332
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And I'm like, well, if it comes up then
I'll mention it and see what we can do.
333
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And I try to meet everybody's
wants, needs and desires if I can,
334
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but I kind of I've got to try
and keep a personal private life.
335
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So like I love modeling, I love what I do.
336
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I love keeping everybody entertained
and keeping everyone going.
337
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But at the same time, I
kind of need my privacy.
338
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Am my life separate?
339
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Yes. I've had various
stalkers I've had to change
340
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my number quite a few
times and I've had hackers.
341
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I've had people report my profiles and
things like that, dating sites made of me.
342
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I've had all sorts people messaging
my friends, but luckily they know me.
343
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So they're like, you
know, this is going on.
344
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Yeah, I do.
345
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And I've had the odd
photographer that's been very seedy,
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very touchy feely, wanting to push levels.
347
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And I just basically I'm
just I won't take no shit.
348
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I just say it how it is and no, sorry.
349
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I think my friends and family
are very supportive of what I do.
350
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I think like them, they're
they love what I do.
351
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So there are some parts where
they think ooh has a bit risky,
352
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but they just say to me,
just be careful because of it
353
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can come back to bite you in
the future and little things like that.
354
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But generally they're very
they're very supportive and
355
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they know exactly
356
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where I am shoot and who I'm
with and they know what I'm doing.
357
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They know the sort of styles, so
then they know the sort of person I am.
358
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So they kind of used to that.
359
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It doesn't surprise them that I've
gone into it, if that makes sense.
360
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Yeah, modeling pays
well. In the beginning, no.
361
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So in the beginning you do a
lot of TFP CDs so time for print CDs.
362
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So it's collaboration work.
363
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So you do a lot of free photo shoots.
364
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The photographers
365
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get to keep what you've done and
then you get to keep copies of what
366
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you've they've done, the final edits
and you kind of build your portfolio up.
367
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So over the time of your photo
shoots, you're building your portfolio up
368
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and then once it's at a
substantial stage, you then can start
369
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making your charges and your
prices and kind of start in that way.
370
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But yeah, it pays some bills, it
pays my clothes, it pays for extra
371
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things and props for shoots that I can
think of that the photographer might not.
372
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So yeah, I'd say it pays well once
you're in it and yeah, enjoying it.
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I would say be careful of photographers,
check them out, check out their reviews,
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check out their photos that
they've done previously because
375
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that makes a hell of a lot of
difference when you see the differences
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in their photos,
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I would say
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always tell someone where
you're going for a photo shoot.
379
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I would say definitely always
tell someone where you're going.
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Who the photographer is and contact
information for that photographer.
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Always tell a family or friend
member the time you're getting there,
382
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when you're leaving, when
you've got home, so that there's a lot
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of safety precautions
384
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that because at the end of the day
you are alone, you are a female or a male
385
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and you are meeting somebody
you've never met before in the middle
386
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of nowhere or wherever you
meet them, and there is a high risk.
387
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There are a lot of risks in modeling.
388
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So it is a very dangerous game, really,
389
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especially when you're
young girl meeting a man
390
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in the middle of the woods
on your own and getting naked.
391
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So yeah, modeling is there is a
danger side to doing modeling.
392
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Yeah. Yes.
393
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So I had a particular I've had a
few experiences over the years,
394
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but the main one that's
always stuck with me was, a job
395
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that I got offered, I was only
18 so it was like new to me.
396
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I was, I wasn't even telling
people where I was going.
397
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It was, oh, I've got a photo
shoot and oh, it's in this place.
398
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And I'm doing that. And that was it.
399
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And then I'd speak to
400
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when I got back and oh, we did
this and tell them all the great stuff.
401
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And then there was an incident
where I was planning a shoot
402
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with a photographer and
we had planned it down
403
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to the tee from outfits to where
we would shoot in the hotel name.
404
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Everything was down to the tee,
so I had no questions about it at all.
405
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And then it came to the week of the shoot
and I was waiting for the flight details
406
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and that was the only
thing I was waiting for.
407
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So I was just patient
and just like waiting.
408
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And then it came to the day of the shoot
409
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and I was trying to ring them
to try and say like, โcome onโ.
410
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Iโm meant to be shooting.
411
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Like when is this flight?
Is it even happening?
412
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And I started to get a bit suspicious
and then I had a phone call.
413
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I had an email first asking
to contact the company
414
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that I had been registered to that
the photographer had contacted me on.
415
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So I had an email first,
416
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,800
but then they contacted me on my
mobile because it's linked to the website
417
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,720
and the company itself
asked me if I had left yet
418
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and I was like a bit confused,
but I was like, no, I haven't.
419
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I'm waiting for some confirmation details.
420
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And they said, well, please don't leave.
421
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We're glad you haven't left.
422
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The people on the other end have
actually been arrested for trafficking.
423
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I was in shock.
424
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I did not know where to put myself.
425
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18 years old.
426
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I said to my mum, I'm going
France for a weekend for a shoot.
427
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,077
It's amazing, doing beach shoots.
428
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So doing all of this and then I
just wouldn't have come back
429
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and I don't know what would have happened
and I don't know where I would have been
430
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or what kind of kind of things
I would have been doing.
431
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And I don't want to think about it.
432
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,717
But yeah, definitely put things into
perspective for me when I'm doing shoots.
433
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,600
So all details are always given to
somebody in my close family or friends
434
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so they know exactly where
I am and what I'm doing.
435
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,717
Yes, I do get the odd
little superfan and yeah,
436
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they send me things and theyโre
always there to compliment.
437
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Always on my photos, always in my inbox.
438
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,717
And it's just little things
like little compliments.
439
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,357
Like, you look beautiful
and I wish you were mine.
440
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,477
And if I wasn't with my wife,
I'd be with you every day.
441
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,317
And then I get the sordid ones that.
442
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Oh, if my girlfriends at work
right now, can I come round?
443
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And I'm like, no, you can't, mate. Sorry.
444
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,637
Yes, I get the dick pics, the
body pics, all the shower pics,
445
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,677
all the wanking videos and they're
like, I wish you were here right now.
446
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,717
I'm looking at your photos.
447
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,997
I'm just I just ignore him.
448
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,640
I'm just like, yeah,
okay, just push that aside.
449
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It's not is.
450
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,677
No, it's not what I'm there to do.
451
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I'm not there to
entertain them in that way.
452
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I'm there to produce my work
and if they like my work, then
453
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that's for them.
454
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It's not for me to be
doing that sort of stuff.
455
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So I'm currently having
a website being made.
456
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This is so that all of my stuff and
all of my products and my images
457
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,557
and everything that I do over the
years can all be on one platform
458
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,877
without being reported from
trolls, without being deleted,
459
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,197
without any complaints
and things like that.
460
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,600
So is going to be coming
out soon, itโs nearly finished.
461
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,197
So people will be able to
see you'll find me on there.
462
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,557
I will be putting links on
my social media accounts
463
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,440
and on my modeling
profiles and things like that.
464
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,997
And that will be up and running
hopefully before the end of the year.
465
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960
So that's I'm looking I'm
excited I'm looking forward to it
466
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,037
everything from out the scenes
467
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,077
different styles shoots
I've done different creations.
468
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,917
They will get to see other photographers
469
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,600
other studios I've done
behind the scenes edits.
470
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,357
I've done some questions and answers
471
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,997
because over the years
there's been a lot of questions.
472
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,640
Other girls and other lads actually
have asked me about modeling,
473
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,637
so there are a lot of things I've
answered on there for them as well.
474
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,117
There is a chance for them to contact
me if they want to, not just the bookings,
475
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040
just the queries and
questions I'm happy to answer.
476
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,797
And then yeah, there will be like a
section where it's a bit more private,
477
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,960
so anything that's a
bit x-rated will be in a
478
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,840
in a private area for people to
subscribe and look at separately.
479
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,957
I really enjoy modeling.
480
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,677
I love it.
481
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,837
It's something that I didn't think I would.
482
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,957
But if I got spotted and
I'll tell you what is built
483
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,957
my confidence, my self
esteem, it's made me love
484
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,477
who I am, whether I've put on
weight, whether I'm skinny or not.
485
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,760
But then it's also given me that
drive to look after myself more.
486
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,397
It's made me think about how I how
I look after myself with my exercise
487
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,677
and things like that.
488
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,837
So yeah, I do enjoy it.
489
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680
There have been several times
over the years where I've I've stopped
490
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,277
gone, you know, I'm just going
to stop now, but I end up back
491
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:34,437
like I think the longest I stopped
modeling for was about eight months.
492
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000
And then literally photographers
were in my inbox like, oh, let's shoot,
493
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,117
I'm not doing it.
494
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,837
And then after a while
I was like, I'm back.
495
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,637
I can't, I can't not.
496
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000
And then, yeah, so, yeah, love it.
497
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,677
I love the fetish and the lingerie.
498
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,077
I am one of these
women that loves lingerie.
499
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,077
So you get women that buy shoes
and handbags and makeup. I buy lingerie.
500
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,600
My mum moans at me all the time because
she says, where does all your money go?
501
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,640
I'm like,
502
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,200
I've got a shop's worth of lingerie.
503
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,720
So yeah I yeah, I do.
504
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,440
Dating is a challenging one
I'll say, is the word, challenging.
505
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,000
So it's it's easy to date but when it comes
506
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,597
the long term it is hard because
they have to really trust you
507
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,040
they have to not have their
own insecurities of around trust.
508
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,680
And in this day and age, I think nearly
everybody has a trust issue of some sort.
509
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,757
So it is a case of
they have to really trust
510
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,637
that you're not leading these men on
you are not sneakily meeting people
511
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,200
and doing anything that you wouldn't
do normally if you were in a relationship,
512
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,677
which I donโt so is totally
separate work to now.
513
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,477
But yeah, dating is hard
because a lot of men just can't deal
514
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,077
with the fact that their
friends or their family members
515
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,757
may see you naked somewhere
and or in raunchy things somewhere.
516
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,877
So yeah, it is a challenge
to date when you're
517
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,320
a model.
518
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,600
My friends and family love
my career. They think, go for it.
519
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,157
You look how you do.
520
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,517
You do what you do. You love it.
521
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,237
Why stop? Go for it.
522
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,117
Enjoy it. My mum.
523
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,717
Sometimes because I'm in my 30s.
524
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,200
My mum's always like,
aren't you going to have kids?
525
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,197
Aren't you going to settle
down and get married?
526
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,837
And I'm like, yeah, one day maybe.
527
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,597
Yeah, but I'm just I'm enjoying my life.
528
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,677
I love my work, I love my
modeling and I love what I do.
529
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,277
I love my friends, my family.
530
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:30,197
I'm very active.
531
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,360
I'm always out kayaking or doing something.
532
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,877
So yeah, sorry, mum, but maybe one day.
533
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,197
But right now, no, I'm.
534
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,760
I'm quite happy with how I am.
535
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,880
Sometimes people stereotypical
me because I'm a blond and a model.
536
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:45,757
So there we go.
537
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,197
That one on the when someone messaged me.
538
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,797
So yeah there are times
when I will get the odd
539
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720
message, like, do you do
anything other than modeling?
540
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,320
And I'm like, in what sense?
541
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,477
And then it will be like
do you do private videos?
542
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Or something sexual or it will
be, do you have another job?
543
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,157
And then they when I tell them
that I have a very rewarding
544
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,037
and very challenging and very
good job, people are very shocked.
545
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,677
They go, oh, wow, okay, so
you're not just a blond model.
546
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,918
Then I'm like, no, I have a career.
Love my career.
547
00:28:20,001 --> 00:28:22,437
I'm very passionate about my career
and my career is in helping people.
548
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,877
And they're like, oh, well, it's
nice to see you've got a heart.
549
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,797
Oh, right. Come on. Not all
550
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840
models are very self-absorbed,
but and it's all about them.
551
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,077
And I do more than just modeling.
552
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,760
So no, I do have my heart in my
career and I have heart in modeling.
553
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,081
Yeah. Throughout the years my
fans have grown and grown and grown.
554
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,437
Some have followed me
from the very beginning
555
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,757
and some have come in for the last
few years since the magazine edits
556
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,720
and things like that.
557
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,677
So yeah, I've got a variety of fans.
558
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,717
I got fans that send me little
means and gifts and little things
559
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,957
and I've got friends that are
very sexualized and send me
560
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,200
the dick pics and naughty videos
and tell me what they're doing and
561
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,437
but I'm not really
interested in any of that.
562
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,117
I kind of just ignore that side of it.
563
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,797
But you're going to get that in modeling.
564
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,077
It's not taboo is it? It's there.
565
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,317
So it's just something that
you either enjoy and play with
566
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,400
or you just ignore,
which to me I just ignore.
567
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,157
But yeah, I've got the general fans
and then I've got fans that have literally
568
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,277
a waiting for anything that I'm doing next.
569
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,277
And they ask me all the
questions about my shoots
570
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,357
and what sort of thing you wearing
and are you doing any extra sales?
571
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Like, could I ask a request
and then can I buy a photo?
572
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,997
So that sort of stuff happens.
573
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,317
Well, so I'm more than
open to things like that.
574
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,997
And then if me and the
photographer are happy,
575
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,357
and he's got the time,
then we'll throw in extra stuff
576
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080
and then we'll sell it
to them for whatever.
577
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Social media has gone
massive in the last ten years.
578
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Everything is through social media.
579
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,797
So back when I first started
modeling, modeling was more
580
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,317
about joining agencies, getting
an agent looking for the work.
581
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,277
And but you've got to be careful
there because a lot of agencies
582
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,037
will be actually fraudulent
and they'll look legit and then
583
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,800
they'll say, yes, you've got the potential
to be a model, send us some shots,
584
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,677
and then they'll go, yes, we could
use you, send us some money.
585
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,757
No, you don't ever send money.
586
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,117
Never send money.
587
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,637
If they want you,
they're going to take you.
588
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,797
They're going to use
you. So don't ever pay.
589
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,077
But yes, social media is massive out there.
590
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,917
It's easy for a young girl like
they are making their own photos,
591
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240
doing their own edits,
wanting to be a model.
592
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,637
And they're aspiring
models, really, aren't they?
593
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,597
Because that's what
they're really wanting to do.
594
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,197
And if that's the case, there's
so many photographers out there
595
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,120
now that are on social
media advertising their work.
596
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,720
It only takes 5 minutes to send a message
and ask, look, I want to do modeling.
597
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,197
I know it will be free.
598
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,557
Or do you mind? Could
we do a shoot, please?
599
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,877
I wouldn't mind trying and seeing
600
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,837
if I like it or message a
model and say, look, do mind.
601
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,477
I'm like, I really like your work.
602
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,557
Can I come to you with
a shoot? Can I watch?
603
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,000
I kind of want to get a feel
of whether I'd like it or not.
604
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,717
It's always worth an ask. The
worst that's going to happen.
605
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,197
Is theyโre going to go. โNo. Sorry.โ
606
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,957
and then you ask the next one.
607
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160
There's so many out there,
so much social media out there.
608
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,440
It's a lot easier to be a
model, but it's a lot more harder
609
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,397
because so many girls
and boys that want to do it.
610
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:25,480
(Ambient music)
611
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Well, basically I was working behind a
bar and nursing in a place in Chelmsford
612
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,837
and I was working the two jobs
613
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,877
and someone sort of came
in and said, oh, you could do
614
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000
stripping and modeling and stuff so
I thought that would be really good,
615
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,640
just as a one income as opposed
to the two that I was doing.
616
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,560
So I started doing a bit of
page three modeling back then
617
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,277
and I started to do some sort
of like showgirl stuff as well.
618
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,237
So, well, first it's a bit daunting
because I don't really know,
619
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,957
like you have to get
an act together to do the
620
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,560
showgirl stuff.
621
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,557
Getting in front of the
camera wasn't too bad.
622
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,637
I sort of quite enjoyed
it flashing off the boobs
623
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,797
was fine. I was quite
comfortable doing that.
624
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,837
But yeah, no, it's really good.
625
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,960
And it was good having the income
coming in at the end of the week as well.
626
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,037
So yeah, I enjoyed it.
627
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,597
Sometimes it feels quite empowering.
628
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,037
I feel powerful because I'm in
control of the crowd sort of thing
629
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,800
and on a shoot it does
make you feel quite sexy.
630
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,320
So yeah, it's quite good.
631
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,797
At first was the financial
side and then I enjoyed it
632
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,077
so much I just started to
do sort of like a leg fetish.
633
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,280
I did like leather pants
and stockings and tights.
634
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,997
So it just, it just all sort of
progressed into other things, really.
635
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,597
So yeah, yeah.
636
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,037
For the feet fetish and the leg
637
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,357
fetish and tights and shoes,
there's quite a lot out there actually.
638
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,227
And there's weird
things just walking around
639
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:51,480
fully clothed, a bit of
tissue hanging out of your
640
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,280
top, there's quite like, you know,
quite weird things that, that you can do.
641
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,077
Yeah.
Some of it can be quite funny.
642
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,077
Like sometimes people want it to be
sort of quite domme in front of the camera
643
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200
and you have to talk to them
and that can be quite funny.
644
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,277
Probably the tight one really,
because you have the tights on
645
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,477
and just like pull them up
and it just didn't look good.
646
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,917
But obviously someone's
got a fetish out there for that.
647
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,997
But yeah, that was quite funny.
648
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,317
Yeah, they're very supportive about it.
649
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,800
When I first started doing it,
my dad was really supportive.
650
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,837
My sister was doing a bit anyway,
651
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,440
so it was kind of not
really a shock to them,
652
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,877
but then it's obviously about
653
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,397
when you find boyfriends
that they love it at first,
654
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,597
but then they sort of
get a bit funny about it.
655
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,157
Once they're in love with
you, that's a big problem then.
656
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,840
So yeah, a relationship
side with men is hard.
657
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,797
So yeah, yeah.
658
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,517
So basically back in the day
I was on a couple of websites
659
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,520
and you'd get messages from
photographers on there doing like
660
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,077
group stuff, like you
661
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,117
do sort of a camera
club and stuff like that.
662
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,277
And then yeah, you just have your
pictures up on there, know your stats
663
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,397
and what you're happy to do
and what you're not happy to do.
664
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,917
And they messaged you have
assignments that they've got
665
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,157
and obviously if it's paid,
sometimes it's time for print.
666
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,677
If it's like exciting stuff, I
don't mind doing time for print.
667
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,597
A lot of it is mainly paid work.
668
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,317
So basically you'll give them your
time and they have your pictures
669
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,477
and they'll give you some.
670
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Back in the day, they actually
give you print outs of them
671
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,360
or a CD or obviously on a
hard drive or something.
672
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,197
Yeah, I do really enjoy the shoots.
673
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160
So used to be lovely when you have
like your makeup done, your hair done
674
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,877
because when I used to do it,
I was quite like into it though.
675
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400
I had all sorts of different
people messaging me.
676
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:30,997
I might go on to London, get
all my hair and makeup done
677
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,237
and it was lovely getting pampered,
and then to sit in front of the camera
678
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,757
and would do like exciting stuff
679
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160
like role plays and stuff
like that was really good.
680
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,360
Yeah. So I used to do a bit of page
three for the sport and the daily star.
681
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,717
I was in those, which
goes along to building sites.
682
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,280
Actually, there'd be a couple
of girls, two or three girls.
683
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,277
Sometimes I'll be on my own
684
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,957
and we'd just have a group shot
with the builders with our boobs out.
685
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,437
And that was a real good laugh
686
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,077
because they'd be picking
you up and stuff like that.
687
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,437
I've done a bit of TV work
or did like a documentary
688
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,917
sex after marriage, where the ladies
wouldn't feel very good about themselves.
689
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,997
That had come along to a photoshoot,
watch it and have one done their self.
690
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,440
At the end of it.
691
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,560
I've done a bit of babestation
TV, so I presented on there
692
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,200
and that was all really good.
693
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,157
Yeah, it's quite funny actually.
694
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,157
You'd get like a lot of people
695
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,637
just asking you to show your feet
or grab your boobs or wiggle about.
696
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:23,237
Obviously it was only up to topless
and I was actually married at the time
697
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,480
and my husband, his best mate to
call in, to get me to do weird things.
698
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:28,920
So that was good.
699
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Yeah. Yes, it's paid really
well, but it'd be long hours I think.
700
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,320
Then we get there that 9 oโclock and not
finish til half past three in the morning.
701
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,800
Then by the time you travel home
from London you get to bed to like five.
702
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,000
So it was hard work but it was really
good money to add to what we were doing.
703
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,318
Yeah. So the TV work,
you could actually do
704
00:35:47,401 --> 00:35:49,320
two or three nights a week, which was good
705
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,997
because obviously
fitting everything else in.
706
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,397
I gave up doing nursing
and the bar work within
707
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,037
about sort of three or four
months of doing the modeling.
708
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,797
Once I got quite a few photoshoots
booked in, I gave up and just did that
709
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,280
full time and then become a
stripper at the weekends as well.
710
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,997
So, so I do birthdays, stags.
711
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,400
Sometimes you get booked by the
wife to go along to do someone's birthday
712
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,917
or even for the stag do, youโll turn up
and there'll be a group of stags there.
713
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,317
And they don't know you are coming,
so you're dressed as like a police officer
714
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400
and used to do schoolgirl, but
don't really do that so much anymore.
715
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,877
Army outfits.
716
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,760
So turn up, basically do a
little bit of a dance for the guy
717
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,720
and then put him in a dog collar,
lead him around, give him a whip
718
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,677
cover him in cream, just
basically for the stags.
719
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,000
It's all humiliation.
720
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,277
Rugby boys are good, but
721
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160
footballers, theyโre always a
little bit don't want to be humiliated.
722
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,517
And then, yeah, it's just like sexy
dancing and having a laugh really
723
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,040
itโs all good fun.
724
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,757
So a good funny one is...
725
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,877
We went along to these guys.
726
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,241
Obviously they booked a
stripper, but they expected more.
727
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,197
So our clothes and
everything was in one room.
728
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,806
We ended up running
off out the window, got
729
00:37:01,889 --> 00:37:03,678
into my friend's car,
and a car wouldn't start.
730
00:37:03,761 --> 00:37:05,997
We're like sitting in the car
trying to get away from them.
731
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,317
But the best are when you've
got the nan sitting in the corner.
732
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,917
They come up and they absolutely love it.
733
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,720
And then old people absolutely love it.
734
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,757
So I basically get the
guy up, do my sexy dance,
735
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,517
and then I'll stand him
up, pull his pants down
736
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,317
so you can't see the
front, because obviously
737
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
sometimes you do have like the
mum there or the wife or something.
738
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Let's pull the bum out, draw like
a little funny face on their bum.
739
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Then I'll whip it and
then I get shaving foam
740
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,637
and with the shaving, if
I might draw a sad face
741
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,880
and then pull their pants
up and squish it everywhere.
742
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:38,117
And then sometimes they like,
lie on the floor and I'll get cream
743
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,717
and just squirted all over them.
744
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,357
And yeah, it's just it's more of it.
745
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,797
And sometimes you get glitter
that's going to stick to them all night.
746
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,757
So you put that on them and yeah,
it's just more, it's more of a funny thing
747
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,197
the strip-o-grams. I have done lap
dancing, but it wasn't really for me.
748
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,360
You'd be hanging around for hours
and this is like when I was really young
749
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,837
and you sort of hang around and have
to sort of really hustle for your money,
750
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,877
whereas with the strip-o-grams you're
booked in, you go along, do your job
751
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,720
and you know, you can get
quite a few in in one night really.
752
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,957
Well, the page three ones
were really, really good
753
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,357
because obviously
they're not be in the paper.
754
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,517
So that was quite nice.
755
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,080
And we'd always have fun going on
the building sites that would be really fun
756
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,597
and just shoots really where I've
done like of theme, like the other week
757
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,560
I did like a sort of a xena warrior
one with a sword that was really good
758
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,917
and a boxing one, which obviously
I really love boxing inside boxing.
759
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520
So that was good. They,
they stick in my memory,
760
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,877
but yeah, then
761
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960
once basically I was asked
to do some naturist cleaning,
762
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,960
which is obviously going in
someone's house doing some cleaning.
763
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,717
So I put a little Molly maid outfit
on and, basically stripped down
764
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,477
during the cleaning for
that. That was quite funny.
765
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,840
I some rubber gloves and
I was just scrubbing away.
766
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,517
Not really. I think basically when
I've gone along to photoshoots,
767
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,597
if they are a bit slimy or
sometimes they can be move
768
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,157
your arm and they'll
come along and move it.
769
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:57,197
And obviously if I've done topless,
they'll actually try to move your boob.
770
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,557
But I just slap their hand and say
โwhat do you think youโre doing?โ
771
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,677
I'm straight away to them.
772
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,677
What's what sort of thing.
And with the stripping as well.
773
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,677
You get a lot of people touching
you and one time we was doing
774
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,157
like a show and I was walking
around collecting money for like a raffle.
775
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,357
It was doing some guys slap
my bum, so I've just turn round,
776
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,760
slapped him and he fell off the
chair. Got to put them in their place.
777
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,517
I like
778
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,320
I used to be a nurse nursing in A&E
and stuff like that and in care homes.
779
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,437
So I really enjoyed that.
780
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,000
So I think had it been better
money Iโd have just stuck at that, but
781
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,157
when I got offered to do this, it
would become fun and good money.
782
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,280
So it's a no brainer really.
783
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,277
Yeah so for
784
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,317
like basically I'll do a
bit of webcam as well.
785
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,320
So when I log on I have certain
people now I'm on on that time
786
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,037
or they messaged me off line
with the stripping over the years
787
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,200
we'll go to someone every single year
or you'll get a group of lads for a stag.
788
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,517
You'll go along to their stag party
and then you'll see like three or four
789
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,717
other guys along the way.
790
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,397
So yeah, that's really good.
791
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Yeah. So I have got a
regular domme that basically
792
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,917
I do
793
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,997
little video for probably a
couple of times a week really.
794
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,357
So that's quite good.
795
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,597
And then I've had people sort of send me
gifts and buy me stuff or do a photoshoot
796
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,080
and they've given me
gifts, which is quite nice.
797
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,277
No, it's just a private
guy that just basically
798
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,840
I've got my hands behind his
back and pretend I'm his sub.
799
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Yeah. So
800
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,717
I need to get back on the cam
801
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,557
because he messaged me last night,
but I was out and said, could I go home?
802
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,000
And like, basically call him
sometimes he sits on there.
803
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,960
I basically charged him ยฃ70 for
sort of 35 minutes and then it goes up.
804
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,677
I'll say, oh, time's up for
ever going to have to go.
805
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,477
And he goes, oh, I'll go
again and again and again.
806
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,720
So yeah, sometimes it's really good.
807
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Well, five years time, obviously
I'll probably steer off the modeling,
808
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200
but I would've made enough
money to have got a nice house.
809
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,237
I've just sold a house.
810
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,197
I mean, at the moment and
setting myself up now. Really.
811
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,877
So in five years time, hopefully.
812
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,837
I mean, quite a nice
house for me and still look.
813
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,840
Okay.
814
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,037
Yeah.
815
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,400
So do you plan to still be modeling.
816
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,757
If the offers there
817
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,440
yeah, but obviously, yeah, I'll keep
myself well groomed as long as I can.
818
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,960
Yeah. So obviously my diet, I'm obviously
weโve just come out of lockdown now so of
819
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,237
it's not as good as what it normally is
because I'm doing sort of five classes
820
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,037
a week, I walk a lot and I'm
quite strict on my healthy diet,
821
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,600
but I do like bit chocolate and wine,
which obviously doesn't help sometimes.
822
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,357
Yeah. So I try to do like
work out five times a week.
823
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,277
I also do quite a bit.
824
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,342
Of Thai boxing and boxing, which is very
825
00:41:36,425 --> 00:41:38,797
good fitness and it's
really enjoyable other
826
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520
than standing on a treadmill,
looking out the window thinking,
827
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,277
but no, it's really exciting.
828
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,357
I do quite a bit of sparring, I've done
a few competitions with it, so yeah.
829
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,640
So that's, that's fun because it's
something I like to do, to keep fit.
830
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,877
Yeah. I think to be a model,
your mindset has got to be
831
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,280
you're going to turn up, some
guys are going to be a bit seedy.
832
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,197
You've got to kind of be strong minded
833
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,557
and you've got to stick to
the levels that you want to do
834
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,877
because some girls will go along
to a shoot aiming to do topless
835
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,117
and then end up doing open leg or,
you know, all sorts of stuff like that.
836
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,757
And obviously in stripping
and stuff like that, you get offers,
837
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,477
but in your mind you've got to think,
I'm not going to be happy about it.
838
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,760
At the end of the day,
is it going to haunt me?
839
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,720
I mean, personally, I really
don't mind anything topless.
840
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,357
Art nudeโs fine. With the stripping
841
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,437
I'll go in and it's fun.
842
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,840
So I really enjoy it and I don't have
any regrets about anything I've done.
843
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,237
But yeah, if you're looking, get into it.
844
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,517
You've just got to be really strong
minded in, you know, and really confident
845
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,317
to say to people โno, not doing
thatโ and you know, just be set
846
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640
with what you're going to
do and what you want out of it
847
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,037
really like.
848
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,477
Obviously I like to talk to a
photographer before I go along
849
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,517
and even with the stripper grams Iโll call
people up have a chat with them and say,
850
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,197
you know, look, this is how it goes.
851
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,477
Anybody misbehaves, we are going to leave.
852
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,677
And the same with a photographer
really. I will speak to them.
853
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,477
So, you know, you know, basically
double check that they've booked
854
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,637
what they say they're going to book.
855
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,197
But still, you can turn up and they I
mean, generally everybody's lovely.
856
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,800
You don't really get a lot of seedy people.
857
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,760
But if you turn up and they're sort of
like watching you get changed and,
858
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,157
you know, and then
they're starting to be touchy
859
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,960
feely, that's when you know
someone's going to be a bit of a handful
860
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,917
and you've got to be safe.
861
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,517
You've got to take
someone with you or you've
862
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,677
got to let someone know
where you are because.
863
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,757
You know, I've heard all
sorts of horror stories of girls
864
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,437
that have gone along
865
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,717
and some of them
866
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,317
got drugged in their drinks, like I
would never take a drink of somebody.
867
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,797
I don't really know if the
photographer was like, oh, do you drink?
868
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,277
I'm like, โitโs okay, I've got one.โ
869
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,160
because I've known girls to
get date raped and stuff like that.
870
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,917
So yeah, you have to be very safe.
871
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,480
And you know, sometimes you
have to be a bit paranoid, really.
872
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,197
But yeah, so it's good to let
someone know where you go.
873
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,677
Don't take any drinks and.
874
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,480
Yeah,
875
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,397
yeah, I do actually really enjoy it.
876
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,517
Um, it does make you feel sexy.
877
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,597
Can make you feel a bit
conscious about yourself.
878
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,877
Like if you haven't trained hard
enough or you're not feeling great,
879
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,997
you've pigged out a bit, sort of thing.
880
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,357
If you do sometimes
881
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,397
feel a little bit conscious, but
other than that it's quite enjoyable.
882
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,280
If you've got outfits you feel good in
883
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,320
and it looks like good
outfits on the Internet
884
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,160
you want to model in and stuff
like that, it can feel really good.
885
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,960
Yeah. So basically model
modeling can be for anybody.
886
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,277
There are voluptuous women
out there that are a bit bigger,
887
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,480
that guys have got fetishes about,
888
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,757
you know, they get quite a bit of work.
889
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000
There are some like girls
out there are quite slim.
890
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,157
There's like muscly women.
891
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:29,317
Every guy's got a type.
892
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,437
So there is work out there for most
women if they're confident to do it
893
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,637
and feel sexy.
894
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:39,357
If you've got like a Barbie doll type or
the bigger women, yeah, that's there's
895
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,357
work out there for
people if you want to do it.
896
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,477
My favorite shoots are
basically like themed ones.
897
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,517
I like to dress up and I like to do a
role play in costumes, anything like that.
898
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Really. They're my favorite ones.
899
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,637
Yeah. I mean, some people do
have quite a negative opinion about it.
900
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:01,717
They even think that you're
a slut, that you, you know,
901
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480
you go around sleeping with
these photographers or you're easy.
902
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,878
You know, some
people find it disrespectful
903
00:45:07,961 --> 00:45:10,000
to women that you
could be naked or topless,
904
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,997
but I find it quite empowering
if you can get paid to do it.
905
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,120
And sometimes if someone's quite
mean about it, it's normally jealousy.
906
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,035
But yeah, some people have a negative
907
00:45:18,118 --> 00:45:19,880
opinion or some people
are quite supportive,
908
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,357
they have a positive opinion
and they're happy for you.
909
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,597
But yeah, it can be quite a negative world
910
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,800
for you to go out and say to do it
and to tell people that you're doing it.
911
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,877
But you've just got to be confident in
yourself to to know that you're doing
912
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,560
what you can.
913
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,037
Okay, yeah
914
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,117
so I actually work in genetic
research, been doing that
915
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,717
for about a year and a
half, and I've always been
916
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,880
into kind of like bdsm and that
kind of thing since I was a teen.
917
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,037
And then now I feel, you know, I love that.
918
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,117
I love modeling.
919
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,480
So why not put them together?
920
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,720
Well, when I was a kid,
you know, getting into stuff,
921
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,480
just the normal kind of vanilla stuff
922
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,877
was like, come on, literally, you
know, you just, like, experiment.
923
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,837
You know, you try a little bit of spanking,
a bit of that, and you're like, oh,
924
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,160
actually that's a little bit
of a sparkle, I suppose,
925
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,720
to that.
926
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,917
And then it just kind of
developed from there,
927
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,720
I guess
928
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,157
Perth in my opinion.
929
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:34,560
I think that's quiet
vanilla and you kind of get
930
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,880
you get people who are like
all I'm like super kinky, right?
931
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,717
And then you get out a like a
rope or whip or flogger or something
932
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,000
and they're like โwhoa!โ, and youโre like
933
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,920
okay, so we're more
adventurous rather than kinky.
934
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,317
And then you get some people
who are a little bit like less modest
935
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,640
and then like, oh yeah, you
know, I like, like a couple of things.
936
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,717
And then they go grab a flogger
937
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,480
and you're like, ooh,
938
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,720
so I have to really do it after half four
939
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,917
because I do get holiday
and I can't get time off.
940
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,600
It's just I have to be very
careful about working around it.
941
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,557
And I also
942
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,240
have to be careful about what goes online
943
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,517
because it's a, you know,
respected establishment.
944
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,600
You know, I can't have pictures of my boobs
945
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,957
flying.
946
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,360
So I'm very strict with the photographers
and on what site I post things on.
947
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,200
But apart from that, you
know, if I have to book a day off,
948
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,357
I do one and three weekends
like I'm working on that.
949
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,757
So flexible.
950
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Um, I just, yeah, just
have to be super careful.
951
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,557
So yeah, yeah, it's more of a hobby.
952
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,840
So I was signed when I was a teen.
953
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,000
Um, I got scouted by
an agency in London, but
954
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,480
it was interfering with
my studies with a levels
955
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:12,077
and I just had to stop because,
you know that expect you
956
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,477
to go from casting to casting to casting,
and you might get one, you might get two.
957
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,040
Who knows? You know,
you might not get any of them.
958
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
And you spend the entire day
just traveling around London.
959
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,677
So that was tricky.
960
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,960
But, you know, I'm a part of a
small agency in Colchester now
961
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,237
that's going well,
962
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,000
and I think that's the kind
of the biggest that I would go.
963
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,517
I much prefer freelance
because you just get the freedom
964
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,120
and I can work around my work.
965
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,320
I had thought about it before, but
966
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,917
it wasn't until I got stopped
is when I actually thought,
967
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,600
oh, actually, you know, maybe
it's good work, you know?
968
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840
And I went to my first photoshoot.
969
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:00,517
I'm not going to lie.
970
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,157
I was so nervous, but
it was really rewarding.
971
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:09,360
You know, you were not
really sure what to expect.
972
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:15,000
And then afterwards, oh, this is cool.
973
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,837
So it's just a portfolio
building basically.
974
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,357
So I had to go into the studio
and this photographer basically
975
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,517
just told me what to do
976
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,677
and I went with it.
977
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,360
We had different outfits,
we done different poses,
978
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,797
and then afterwards he gave me a CD
979
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,717
with all the pictures
and yeah, it went well.
980
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,800
Like, I've still got the pictures now.
981
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,877
They came out really well and I'm
really pleased with them, you know.
982
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,757
And then
983
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,240
after that I had to go to
like a boot camp, basically.
984
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,197
And it tells you all
985
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,397
the different techniques like break
the joints never stand straight on.
986
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,680
And then he says the number one
thing about modeling is it's still acting.
987
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,000
So if you want to pretend something's
funny, literally think of something funny.
988
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,237
If you want to be sexy,
think about time you had a
989
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,720
really good time.
990
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:05,960
You know?
991
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,600
And it will come up on your face.
992
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,957
Um, and literally, it blew my mind.
993
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,237
And ever since then, all the kind
of the poses come on naturally.
994
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,317
And it just kind of flowed so much better.
995
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,357
Like now when I'm doing
shoots, it's rare that a photographer
996
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,240
has to tell me what to do.
997
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,720
I definitely have a constant
train of thought going in my head.
998
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,520
Like, not so much.
999
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,277
What pose am I going to do next?
1000
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,760
Like click, click, click, but more.
1001
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,197
What am I thinking?
1002
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,317
How am I feeling?
1003
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,877
You know, and then just being
aware, like, what is a camera seeing?
1004
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,320
Like if you have your foot,
like all the way over there,
1005
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,320
you're going to look like
you've got a trollโs foot.
1006
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Just.
1007
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Mindful of things like that.
1008
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,317
Or like, don't put your head down
1009
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,800
because then it gives you a
big nose, that kind of thing. So
1010
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,037
You.. I don't know how to explain it.
1011
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,560
You just have to almost
pretend like it's just not even there
1012
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,397
and kind of put it out
1013
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,877
of your mind. Like, imagine
1014
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,757
a driving test, but it's your best friend
1015
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,997
instead, you know, you're just
driving along with your best friend.
1016
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,077
I know, it doesn't matter.
1017
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040
It's just his best friend,
you know, why worry?
1018
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,640
You know, if you if you
mess up, then it's a funny joke.
1019
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,560
You know why it doesn't matter.
1020
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,920
Like, I think the thing
that I have in my head
1021
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,800
there are millions of people in this world
1022
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,040
Jerry from New Zealand, isn't going to care
1023
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,560
what I do, so just do it.
1024
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,680
That that's my thinking anyway.
1025
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,280
So I do mainly like bdsm
and that kind of thing.
1026
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,197
So it can be like whips
1027
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,840
and the marks and the
like have photos marks
1028
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:21,480
I can do like whips and canes
and all that kind of thing as well.
1029
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Chains, gags, blindfolds.
1030
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,440
You can have like gimp
masks so you can have like total
1031
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,437
sensory deprivation.
1032
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,957
So literally you cannot see or hear
1033
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,920
anything and you're
just sitting there like.
1034
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,357
So yeah, I model as a sub
1035
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,560
but in real life I'm a domme,
but yeah, I mean, it's good.
1036
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,717
And like with ropes and stuff
you get shabari and that's like
1037
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,277
when you get like totally restrained
kind of thing, like suspended and stuff.
1038
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,397
And that's cool.
1039
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,040
That's really cool.
1040
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,517
Bdsm is very, very popular, literally
1041
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,757
oh, my god.
1042
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,197
Like, you just talk to someone
who seems completely
1043
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,797
normal and like, for me, like
I have a very innocent look.
1044
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,280
I am a dark horse. I'm the definition.
1045
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,840
Then you talk to someone, you're like,
oh, my god, like, you like it as well.
1046
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:19,717
Like, what is this?
1047
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,040
Like, what is this black magic?
1048
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,917
But yeah, I mean, I would
say maybe one in four,
1049
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,640
maybe one in five are into
at least something kinky.
1050
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,637
I say it's actually more
1051
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:38,200
rare that's correcting for
someone to be completely vanilla
1052
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,320
rather than someone
kind of kinky, you know.
1053
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,120
I quite like wax shooting.
1054
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,000
So you get a wax, you melt it
all over and you can do all sorts.
1055
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,560
And I'm a bit of a
masochist, so that kind of
1056
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,880
burning sensation is quite bad.
1057
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,837
I mean there's been a couple of times that,
1058
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,080
oh, hot
1059
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,240
no, actually, I mean, never use beeswax.
1060
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Beeswax will burn the
absolute crap out of you.
1061
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,280
Um, yeah, that, that's my, my advice.
1062
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,000
So this was done in my flat on my sofa.
1063
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,440
That was cool. That was.
1064
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:23,797
I really enjoyed that one.
1065
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,957
That's the same shoot.
1066
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,960
So I tied my own hands
and that's my dog lead.
1067
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,117
And then we just literally just got and then blew over.
1068
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,840
I'm kind of glad that I effect, and that was cool.
1069
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,517
So there was a photographer called Stephen
1070
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,840
and basically we got, um, I was
holding like a cane, I had a corset on
1071
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,717
I had to be like domme. I had
this really black make up on I had a
1072
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,717
itโs mine, it's a dog collar with a
little link and then link chain to it.
1073
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,877
And like he was pulling
it and that kind of thing.
1074
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,997
And then we found like wax and stuff.
1075
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,160
That was really cool.
1076
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920
I really, I think because
we clicked as well, like
1077
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,157
you meet so many different
people during the shoots as well.
1078
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,557
Like, that's another aspect I like.
1079
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,840
And you know, so many people,
1080
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,240
so many different people,
like so many different things.
1081
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,960
And that, yeah, the shoot was
good and we got on really well.
1082
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,797
So yeah, one of them.
1083
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,920
So I was like leaning down with a corset
on, I had my dog collar with a chain on
1084
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,080
and I like really, you
know, grabbing my hair and
1085
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,120
you look back,
and youโre like, โoh damn!โ
1086
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,480
so yeah, I was really pleased that one
1087
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,878
that was outside that one as well.
1088
00:55:42,961 --> 00:55:45,480
It was raining, so wet.
1089
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,357
Was it cold then?
1090
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,480
It wasn't windy, but it was definitely
1091
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,120
it was getting to me by the end of it.
1092
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,360
That one, a little cheeky boob.
1093
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,960
A bit of bum. Thatโs just a normal one.
1094
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,880
Yeah.
1095
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,117
That oneโs nice.
1096
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,837
Just chilled. Yeah.
1097
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,357
And then I got like rope ones as well.
1098
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,397
That Japanese one you said
1099
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,280
yeah, shabari.
1100
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Is that shabari?
1101
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,960
Yeah.
1102
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,117
And then the proper shabari is when you
like, completely suspended off the floor.
1103
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,077
But youโve got to be careful
1104
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,480
not to get any of your organs,
because that can go wrong.
1105
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,560
So anything kind of not showing
1106
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,400
I suppose bit pg is on purple port
1107
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,600
anything you know anything that I'm
1108
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:35,517
sensitive about.
1109
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,677
I suppose we go on adult folio,
I have to be super, super careful
1110
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,520
because my work, I cannot
have anything like at all.
1111
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,957
So I've got a different name
1112
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,840
on purple port and a different
name on adult folio as well.
1113
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,400
And my adult folio is
they have to be verified
1114
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,360
and it's all watermarked as well.
1115
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,677
So yeah, I mean,
1116
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,960
especially with bdsm, like
you're just just two people enjoying
1117
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,597
another part of their life,
you know, it is just the same
1118
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,677
as anything else, you know,
like horse riding, for example.
1119
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,317
You know, like it's no different,
1120
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,280
you know, it is a shame.
1121
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,480
It is a shame.
1122
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,597
But I think
1123
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,440
it's a stigma that's going
to take a while to change.
1124
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,957
I don't know what like even now and
people are, oh, what do you do for job?
1125
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400
My oh, I work in genetic research, but
1126
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,037
Iโm like...
1127
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,197
Yeah.
1128
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,237
Um, I mean,
1129
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,237
people think that modeling is
1130
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,200
you just sit in front of the
camera and go la-de-da-de-da
1131
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,277
when actually it's not that, you
know, there's technical things behind it.
1132
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,677
You've got to think about
1133
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,760
your facial expression, your poses
and how it comes across to the camera.
1134
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,600
I mean,
1135
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520
maybe you, you do get
1136
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,320
some people who think that,
oh, yeah, I'm going to be a model
1137
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,720
and then just sit there with like
a straight face the whole time.
1138
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,000
You know, just let.
1139
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,000
Go. And then then they realize actually
1140
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,320
there's a lot more to
modeling and it's tiring as well.
1141
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,560
Like constantly having
your head, you know, like
1142
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,277
a different you try to play
back, a different memory,
1143
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,600
a different feeling and
all that kind of stuff. And,
1144
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,880
you know, it is is mentally exhausting
1145
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,800
and may not be physically,
but definitely mentally.
1146
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,837
And then, you know, at the end of
it, you have a chat with them as well.
1147
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,400
So you know the whole
day it socially as well.
1148
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,597
But I enjoy it.
1149
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,320
I mean it's worth if you
enjoy it, itโs 100% worth it.
1150
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,600
Yeah. That was the hotel and I had rope
around the neck and all that kind of stuff.
1151
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,997
And do you normally wear glasses?
1152
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,080
Yeah, yeah. Those are my glasses. Yeah.
1153
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,237
Same shoot, with the nipple clamps as well
1154
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,000
holding the chain that
one was with Stephen.
1155
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,480
Um, that one again
1156
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,917
hold the cane biting
the cane with a corset.
1157
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,080
That was cool.
1158
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,197
Thatโs my bum cheek!
1159
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,280
That's the one, you know,
holding grabbing the hair.
1160
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,037
That's cool.
1161
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,200
And then that's my dog
collar and chain as well.
1162
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,357
I mostly have people come to me,
1163
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,040
but I do travel more than
happy travel, so I drive them.
1164
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,560
I traveled to bedford the other day.
1165
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,920
That was cool.
1166
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,960
Going to Milton Keynes tomorrow.
1167
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,400
I have a shoot in Southampton coming up.
1168
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,677
The one in Southampton is on a boat.
1169
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,037
That would be cool.
1170
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,677
Looking forward to that.
1171
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,240
And then, yeah, I've been to
a couple of locations as well
1172
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:56,277
thatโs so fun, literally like
it's a thrill as well, you know
1173
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,099
being a bit naughty
on location and like, you
1174
00:59:58,182 --> 01:00:00,160
have to like, keep a lookout
and if someone comes
1175
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,477
I kind of just like passed it off
1176
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,317
so, um, I'd like a see through dress on.
1177
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,997
And I had a kind live up to
my waist and I just kind of like,
1178
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,997
chucked it down and I just put the hand
up like, yeah, Iโm just posing normally.
1179
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,437
And normally I'm just like,
yeah, this is a normal shoot.
1180
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,520
This is a normal shoot.
1181
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,677
It's this liberating.
1182
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,437
Like there's nothing to hide.
1183
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,117
Like, I'm not even kidding.
1184
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,877
I really want to go to a nudist beach.
1185
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,880
Like, it is so different because
when you're in front of the camera,
1186
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,117
you're another person.
1187
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,917
You're. It's almost like you're acting
or your alter ego or something like that.
1188
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,840
You know?
1189
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,800
Whereas like a nudist
beach, like, that's real.
1190
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,957
Like, I want to see how I feel
because it's just going to be
1191
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,200
a totally different experience.
1192
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Yeah, I suppose I'm the
version of myself that I want to be,
1193
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,957
you know, like for some reason,
if I'm in front of the camera,
1194
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,437
it's like someone's just gone, right?
1195
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,397
Okay, go.
1196
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,040
And then my shell just goes, crack open.
1197
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,317
And I don't know, I can't explain it.
1198
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,440
It just happens, you know.
1199
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,880
Theyโre supportive, you know, they see
some of the photos and theyโre like, oh.
1200
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,200
Okay.
1201
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,677
But they're open.
1202
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,317
You know, they're like,
okay, well, it's your thing.
1203
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,037
I'm not going to judge if
you enjoy it and keep doing it.
1204
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,520
If it brings you joy, then doesn't matter.
1205
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,317
If I had a if I got a partner and
1206
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,357
I just tell them and I'd say,
this is me, take it or leave it.
1207
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,760
And if you don't want
to take it, then ta ta.
1208
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,437
I might tone it down a little bit.
1209
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,157
Yeah, sure.
1210
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,240
But I'd never stop it
because I'm very independent,
1211
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,477
you know, like, I'm going to sound
so cheesy, but I don't need anyone.
1212
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,240
I'm happy, you know.
1213
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,757
Thereโs a big difference
between models who want to
1214
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,717
be in bdsm because they
think they're going to make
1215
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,320
a lot of money and models who
are in it because they actually enjoy it.
1216
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,120
And I'm definitely one of
those because I actually enjoy it.
1217
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,437
And, you know, people
pick up on that so quickly
1218
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,757
like, you know, you pull out a whip
or something and they go, whoa!
1219
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,517
And you're like, well, but how
would you how would you cope with
1220
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,720
a cane?
1221
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,957
I'm not in the scene, but it's
definitely a big part of my life.
1222
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,397
Like, I don't think I could be with someone
1223
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,400
completely vanilla.
1224
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,920
I mean, I'll be open, you
know, and see if they want to
1225
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,360
come into it slowly.
1226
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,997
But if they were literally just
plain Jane kind of โinbetweenersโ
1227
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,677
you know will from
โinbetweenersโ kind of thing.
1228
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:56,997
It's like having just a
sponge cake, you know?
1229
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,917
It's all right.
1230
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,800
You can have it once or twice, but
really, you want the jam in the middle,
1231
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,077
you want the cream, you want
the strawberries, you know, and I.
1232
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,520
That's kind of the bdsm.
1233
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,200
Um, I've always kind of just
taken the submissive or a switch,
1234
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,597
and then, I don't know, just recently,
1235
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,040
I actually know you do that.
1236
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,160
And then ever since then, I was like,
actually, I like this one much better.
1237
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,320
But no, basically,
1238
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,077
I think the most I get
1239
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,520
exercise is I have new rocks
1240
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,757
because I'm quite like gothy by
nature or like big platform boots.
1241
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,880
So they're like kind of that thick
and they're really heavy as well.
1242
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,560
So really like, tones your butt muscles.
1243
01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:02,600
And I, I jiggle my butt when I brush
my teeth like that to all my friends.
1244
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,677
And it's all like I joke the
fact that I giggle my butt
1245
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,760
when I brush my teeth.
1246
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,200
So I go into that school in Croatia
1247
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,957
and I've got the
1248
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,840
place for three years and
after then it would be deferred.
1249
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,680
So I'd have to take a
science test, but that's fine.
1250
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,997
So I want to buy a place
here and then I want to change
1251
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,080
the mortgage, buy to let so the
rent, the mortgage is covered.
1252
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,800
Go over to Croatia, study
vet for four years, come back,
1253
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,877
and then hopefully I would
have enough money to pay for it
1254
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,160
and then just keep going
because that that's the main reason
1255
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,360
why I'm doing it, because
it's just so expensive.
1256
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,600
Itโs โฌ4,000 a term or something like that?
1257
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,040
And there's three terms for four years.
1258
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:07,000
So I tried for UK schools and I had
the grades, but then they put them up.
1259
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:08,637
So then I just
1260
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,760
missed it, which is frustrating.
1261
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,120
But I got into Croatia, Slovakia,
1262
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,200
America, but Croatia was my favorite,
1263
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,960
so I took the place there
and see what happens.
1264
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,837
I'm hoping this is a long term
1265
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,997
plan, maybe about ten years,
because then hopefully I'll have a partner.
1266
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:37,400
By then I'll have kids old enough
so I can explain to them while moving
1267
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,717
and then they can go to school there.
1268
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,517
Um, and then maybe they could
pick up a second language as well,
1269
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,557
because I can't speak one,
but it would be really cool if
1270
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,760
my kids could, you know.
1271
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,877
So I've been playing piano for 19
years and I've just picked up drums again.
1272
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,760
So I played drums for
eight years, dropped it for,
1273
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:02,600
I don't know, ten years maybe.
1274
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,717
And I've just started
1275
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,157
doing it again and I'm in a
band called Scarlet du grade.
1276
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,717
I'm the keyboardist and I am the priestess.
1277
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,637
We're a gothic industrial
band, so I don't know
1278
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:22,440
if you've heard of adora bat brat,
but she is like a huge goth icon,
1279
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,997
and I would dress like her on
stage, so that would be cool.
1280
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,880
And we're going to have kind of like a
1281
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,117
an occult kind of feel like we don't want
anything religious or anything like that.
1282
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,640
But that kind of following, you know,
1283
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,117
we're going to do old fashioned
like when we've got a gig coming up,
1284
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,480
we're going to put actual,
like physical posters
1285
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,237
and stuff like that,
and that'll be really cool.
1286
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,800
And then our lead
singer Nathan is just nuts.
1287
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,957
So we're going
1288
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,797
to really put on a show
as well as a performance.
1289
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,480
So yeah, I'm really looking forward to
1290
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,200
gigging again.
1291
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,677
Just dare to be different, you
know, don't go for this esthetically
1292
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:11,680
pleasing, narrow tunnel,
but you know, be you.
1293
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,717
And if it's weird, then that's fine
1294
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,277
because that's you, you
know, like I'm fucking nuts.
1295
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,117
And people know that.
1296
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,520
Like if I, if I go up to my
friends at work and I go, oh,
1297
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,797
guess what I done, or you'll
never guess what I've been thinking.
1298
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,037
And they always go.
1299
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,877
Uh oh, like.
1300
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,600
They never know what's
going to come out of my mouth
1301
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,600
so I went to work two, three days ago
1302
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,280
and they're like, what is that on your bum?
1303
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,920
And I was like, โyeah, that's a cane Mark.โ
1304
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,040
and theyโre like โwhy?โ
1305
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,000
I'm very much a person who believes in
1306
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,037
going inwards and reflecting
1307
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,877
and facing your demons head on, you know,
1308
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,357
like accepting them because I feel,
1309
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,080
because I have PTSD, I feel that
1310
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,157
in order to overcome
them, if you look at them
1311
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,040
straight in the face and accept
it, it has less power of you
1312
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,640
because then it's not the huge
thing that you're trying to battle.
1313
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,080
It's this thing that you're
like, well, you're annoying,
1314
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,160
but I'm going to cope with you
because I can't do anything else.
1315
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,200
You're not going to go away, you know,
1316
01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:33,477
and like because of that.
1317
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,280
So like the nights out, like
I'm always the bodyguard.
1318
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:37,397
I am the
1319
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:39,680
cock block of the group, you. Know?
1320
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,600
So, yeah, I definitely
1321
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,757
facing your fears dead on.
1322
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,957
Definitely inspires me.
1323
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,797
And I think that's the reason
why I got into, like new stuff as well.
1324
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,277
Because, you know, before.
1325
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,000
Oh, my god, that was terrifying me.
1326
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:05,197
My absolute ideal shoot would
be with either Victoria Lovelace.
1327
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,640
Christinia one and only or adora brat bat.
1328
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,200
And they are like big,
big goth icons basically
1329
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,077
because they're my favorite.
1330
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,997
You know, adora oh, she's just
nuts and she knows it and she owns it.
1331
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,197
You know, like in her video, she's
like, โcan you ever be more goth?
1332
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,440
No. Put more, more.โ
1333
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,320
Yes. Queen. Hmm.
1334
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:36,880
(Ambient music)
1335
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,397
My name is Melissa Todd,
1336
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:43,357
and I am a dominatrix, disciplinarian,
depending on your preferred terminology.
1337
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:46,037
And I'm a model, a kink model.
1338
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,320
I do bdsm bondage, I do custom
films, and I work for quite big studios,
1339
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,477
and I offer 1 to 1 domination
sessions. Everything kink related.
1340
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,237
Whatever you like, for
all your kink based needs.
1341
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,680
Come to me.
1342
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,277
I've been modeling now for 26 years.
1343
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,400
Incredibly, I started when I was 19.
1344
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,880
I began lap dancing at
the windmill in piccadilly,
1345
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,917
and quite soon after that
I had, like, talent scouts
1346
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,437
come in and ask me to do
modeling for magazines and videos.
1347
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,637
Increasingly so, yeah.
1348
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,240
Very soon after that, I began doing
modeling and found I absolutely loved it.
1349
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,357
I was asked to go to the the
janus shop in old Compton street,
1350
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:26,157
as was now sadly gone.
1351
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,997
And I was auditioned in the back room
by an old man pulling down my pants
1352
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,277
and give me a good, hard spanking.
1353
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,437
And I was so sweetness and I still am.
1354
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,557
I went, oh, okay.
1355
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,637
I just bent over for him and
he gave me a good whacking.
1356
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,877
Oh, yes. You've passed
your audition. Well done.
1357
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,160
So I started modeling for janus and
fabulous magazine and privileged plus.
1358
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:46,157
And then I started making
videos for him as well.
1359
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,757
And it just sort of progressed from there.
1360
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,317
It was never really a plan.
1361
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,437
I never plan anything,
1362
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,917
but I just found it something I
could do and I thoroughly enjoyed.
1363
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,157
And you meet more people in the
industry and you just get offered more
1364
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,237
and more opportunities and suddenly 26
years has passed, oh, that wasn't the plan.
1365
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,157
But okay, I'm very rich and happy.
1366
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,760
So, you know, they are worse fates.
1367
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,717
The windmill is a famous
place, you know, we never close.
1368
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,440
There's been films made
about it with will young, I think.
1369
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,077
Yeah, it's been going, I
think, since the forties.
1370
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,560
It was the first place, I think, to
show nude women in London, at least,
1371
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,677
although they weren't allowed to
move, they had to stand up to be still like
1372
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:27,440
statues and be naked that have moved
on since I got there in 1995, I think.
1373
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,357
Yes. So they were doing table dancing,
1374
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:34,357
ยฃ10 for table dance, ยฃ20 for a fully
nude dance, which had to be on stage
1375
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:36,600
so incredibly strict.
They're even stricter now.
1376
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,757
You have to stay three feet away
1377
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,120
for table dance, which was
only down to your underwear,
1378
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:44,240
and then you had to go on
stage to show anything more.
1379
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,237
And I went there and I auditioned.
1380
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,317
I saw an advertisement, in the evening
1381
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,840
standard, saying dancers wanted
you will make up to ยฃ600 a night.
1382
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,477
I thought, well, that sounds a lark.
1383
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,077
I like dancing, I like money.
1384
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,357
So I went, turned up and
and I was wearing legwarmers
1385
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,680
and a leotard because I'm an
idiot, as I say, incredibly naive.
1386
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,557
And all the other girls, of course,
had nipple tassels and thigh high
1387
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,280
boots and hold ups and,
oh, okay, that kind of thing.
1388
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,237
So I didn't get the
audition the first time,
1389
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,557
but the second time I went back
1390
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,557
and I had the nipple tassels
and the thigh high boots.
1391
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,800
And that time I got the job and
just loved it, absolutely loved it.
1392
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,320
I was incredibly nervous. I was so nervous.
1393
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,720
What the hell am I
doing? It was horrifying.
1394
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,597
And I was waiting for a punter to pay
me before I could even go on stage.
1395
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,277
And I was desperate
to talk to all these men.
1396
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,117
I was so shy and scared and I
didn't have the right language
1397
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,677
to sort of get men
interested in me at the time.
1398
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,557
So I was just watching all these other
girls, all these beautiful goddesses,
1399
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:42,000
you know, lips and tits and
confidence and just oozing sexuality.
1400
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,960
Hello.
1401
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,157
And I thought, I can't do that.
1402
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:45,837
I can't do that.
1403
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,077
And then the DJ called my name
1404
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,837
because we all had to do a free
dance, I think once an hour or something.
1405
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,917
Just get on stage.
1406
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,197
It's like we have Melissa
without the tattoo to the stage.
1407
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,117
That was me.
1408
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,917
And so I just had to get up
and do it and I really thought
1409
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,997
I might pass out or vomit on stage,
which would not have been appropriate.
1410
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,437
It wasn't a kinky club, but I didn't.
1411
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,357
As soon as I was there
1412
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:06,600
and all eyes were on me and the
music was pumping, it was Madonna.
1413
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:07,957
I just found I could do it.
1414
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,077
And I mean,
1415
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,560
I wasn't brilliant to start with, but I
had a good go and I got much better.
1416
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,157
There was a pole. I got
quite good at the poll.
1417
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,637
I'm very flexible. So I
was doing splits up the poll.
1418
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,560
I was absolutely loving and I
got off stage on such a rush.
1419
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,717
It was just better than
sex, better than anything.
1420
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,597
I was giddy with joy.
1421
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,037
I thought, I want to do
this for the rest of my life.
1422
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,880
And so far I've managed it.
1423
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,277
That was really the start
of my professional career.
1424
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,080
Before that, I've been a care
assistant for a year, I think.
1425
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,357
But yeah, I was studying.
1426
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:38,237
I was at university, so yeah,
that was my first proper job,
1427
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,917
if proper of the word kind of.
1428
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,280
I read philosophy, politics and economics
very useful, and I didn't like it.
1429
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,917
So I dropped out after a year
1430
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,160
and decided to become a
lap dancer instead, as you do.
1431
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,477
And I went back about three or four
years later and did an English degree,
1432
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,877
which suited me much better.
1433
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,920
And then I did a master's in creative
writing, which I thoroughly enjoyed,
1434
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,237
and then when I decided to audition,
I didn't really give it any thought at all.
1435
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,197
So I can't honestly say I
had many reservations.
1436
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,997
I didn't really know
what I was getting into.
1437
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,960
Yeah, I was just too stupid, naive
really, to understand the repercussions.
1438
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,080
I remember a friend of mine
saying, oh, you know, this is a sex job.
1439
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,357
You'll never get out of
a sex job once you start.
1440
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,557
You know, you've got to be
really careful what you want it to.
1441
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,000
Shut up. You know, this will be a
hilarious anecdote when I'm an old lady.
1442
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,717
Oh, I did this funny thing for six months.
1443
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,877
I got my tits out in the middle of
London. You wouldn't believe it.
1444
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,237
But of course, he was right.
You never get out of sex job.
1445
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,160
He was Russian. That's
why you talk like that.
1446
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,517
Because it's just
1447
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,280
too much fun and the
money's too good and too quick.
1448
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,077
And you just get accustomed to
having a great, thick wad of notes
1449
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,720
in your purse all the time and
not having to worry about money
1450
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,277
and also just being happy
and, you know, wearing sequins
1451
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,837
and dressing up and drinking
champagne free every night.
1452
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,637
So if I'd realized what I was getting into,
1453
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,797
I probably would have
thought about it a bit longer.
1454
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,760
But I never dreamt that this
would be my life forevermore.
1455
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:57,477
So yeah, so far, I suspect
I'm going to die doing this
1456
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,437
because I'm good for
nothing else, honestly.
1457
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,840
And there's quite a gap in my CV now.
1458
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,157
โSo what have you been
doing for the last 25 years?โ
1459
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,757
well, funny story.
1460
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,197
You can read all about it. Yeah.
1461
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,120
Should I?
1462
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,037
I mean, I told my mum
what I was getting up to.
1463
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,557
I said I was auditioning, she was
in showbusiness, she was a dancer.
1464
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,280
So she was very supportive.
Actually. She it was a brilliant idea.
1465
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,717
I yeah.
1466
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,597
No, I didn't really.
1467
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,760
I just thought it would
be a lark. And it was.
1468
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,917
Yeah. Yeah.
1469
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,157
I'm very lucky, I think.
1470
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,520
Very trusting and very lucky so far.
1471
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,117
Yeah. My family and
friends all know what I do.
1472
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,197
I was always kind of out as a
sex worker, but I've come more out
1473
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,637
in the last few months. My
son has always known what I do.
1474
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,837
He's 20 now from the age of about seven.
1475
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:45,797
I was very honest with him.
1476
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,517
I said, I'm doing 1 to
1 domination sessions.
1477
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,237
At that point, he knew because
there were canes all over the house.
1478
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,640
He thought it was fun.
1479
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,840
So my mum knows, my
husband obviously knows.
1480
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,637
Yes, I like talking about it, so it's
not something I've ever had to hide.
1481
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,277
I realize I'm incredibly lucky.
1482
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,917
You know, a lot of my friends
do have to hide. They're terrified.
1483
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,840
They're was hiding their phones
and feeling anxious and like criminals.
1484
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,000
My friend Arial Anderson,
who's a huge bondage model
1485
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,440
and was talking about how she wanted to
kill herself when she was 16 because she
1486
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,917
she couldn't understand
how she had all these
1487
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,840
weird ideas and fantasies
about being tied up and hurt.
1488
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:18,797
And she came from a religious community.
1489
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,080
So she had a lot of guilt and
shame around her desires.
1490
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,597
I've never had that. Thank goodness.
1491
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,437
I've been so lucky.
1492
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,920
And it's only now I realize that
1493
01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:32,957
I don't know why there's such
a stigma around the industry.
1494
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,720
Honestly, you'd think I'd have
a better answer, but I don't.
1495
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,797
And it's got worse.
1496
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:41,920
I say. Since I started in the mid-nineties,
it was just seen as fun and now,
1497
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,917
you know, it was sort of Denise
Van Outen type lad mags era.
1498
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,277
It was just a giggle and a lot
of people seemed to be doing it
1499
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,477
and talking about it.
1500
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,877
And now it's somehow become terrifying.
1501
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:52,757
People are very angry
1502
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,320
about porn and people being
naked and enjoying their sexuality.
1503
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,357
We live in this weirdly pro
sexuality age where you can identify
1504
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:01,357
as anything you please.
1505
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,437
I can say that I'm gay or straight
or a man or people or anything.
1506
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,357
Everyone's fine.
1507
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:07,597
But if you actually start touching anybody
1508
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,557
or taking pictures of
yourself, touching anybody,
1509
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,680
that's somehow horrifying and
something to be hidden away.
1510
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,840
And I think that's a real
shame because sex is really fun.
1511
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,677
It's a great stress reliever, it's a
great mood enhancer, and I think we do
1512
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,000
an awful lot more of it in
the world rather than less.
1513
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,237
Everyone's tossing off all the time.
1514
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,000
I think we should just talk about
it because that's really fun too,
1515
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,637
and I'm proud that I'm able to
help them in some small way.
1516
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,837
I suppose it must be...
1517
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,997
There has been a real sea change.
1518
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,240
What is it?
1519
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,640
I think
1520
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,557
feminists like being angry.
1521
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,357
I mean, if I'm going to
get killed for saying this,
1522
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:42,437
but I think in many ways
1523
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,317
feminists and socialists have
sort of won the war, and yet
1524
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,357
they still want to go on being
relevant and being angry.
1525
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:50,120
And pornography is really easy target and
1526
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,357
so back in the seventies, feminism was
all about women being proud of their bodies
1527
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,597
and their sexuality and using their
bodies in any way the hell they chose.
1528
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,597
And, you know, fighting for
1529
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,400
good sex and good quality
orgasms and that kind of thing.
1530
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,037
And now feminism is
about restricting women's
1531
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,517
choice and saying, oh, you can't
be that kind of woman. That's wrong.
1532
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,917
You know, you've got to be like
us and you can't have any fun.
1533
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,960
You certainly can't like men. That's
outrageous. You can't enjoy yourself.
1534
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,557
And there's been a movement,
particularly in America,
1535
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,597
where feminism has sort of
become unified with the religious right.
1536
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,120
And it all seems to be about
control and restriction and censorship
1537
01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:26,197
and just being constantly angry.
1538
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,517
I don't have an answer, really.
1539
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,317
I don't know why that's
happened. It's very sad.
1540
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,797
I think it's just, you know, the
time, the sort of sea change that will
1541
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,077
the clock will turn and
it will change again.
1542
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,757
I hope, hopefully will be
in a more liberated time.
1543
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,037
I hope I hope I'm alive to see it.
1544
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,597
Well, at the moment, it's it's
really hard to be a porn star.
1545
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,917
Increasingly, you get more
restrictions and mastercard
1546
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,517
are making life much harder for us.
1547
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,397
Clips for sale make it much harder for you.
1548
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,960
They keep adding all these extra
restrictions and layers of bureaucracy
1549
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,637
and it's tricky and it's getting worse.
1550
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,957
So in France now, you have to verify
your age before you look at pornography.
1551
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,837
That's almost certainly
going to come in here,
1552
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,637
which is insane, because
if you're a 12 year old boy,
1553
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,077
you know how to get
past that by using a VPN.
1554
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,717
Of course, it's only
going to be the Tory voters
1555
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,561
who will be sitting at home with
blue balls thinking, what did we do?
1556
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,197
Why do we vote for this nonsense?
1557
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,917
But the tide will turn, I'm sure of it,
and we will enter a more liberated age
1558
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,957
where we think actually
touching people probably
1559
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,600
isn't the worst thing you can do to them.
1560
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,317
The industry does pay well if
you pursue money in your career,
1561
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,277
and I haven't always often I've
pursued that more artistic projects,
1562
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,637
just things that interest me.
1563
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,800
But if it's money that you're
after, then yeah, pornography is
1564
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,157
the sex industry is the way to go.
1565
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,357
I think
1566
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:44,637
certainly if you're a working class
woman with not many qualifications, it's
1567
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,240
a very good way of earning
a good living very quickly.
1568
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,797
Yeah, I have a substantial property
1569
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,600
portfolio now. I own seven
properties, six of them outright.
1570
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,357
So yeah, even though I haven't
really particularly pursued money
1571
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:01,197
and I've always had like other artistic
enterprises going on along the side.
1572
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,640
But yeah, I've made money
at it more than I need really.
1573
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,677
It changes your attitude towards money
when you're a sex worker because you know
1574
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:08,757
it's just always there.
1575
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,757
So I had my bag stolen five years
ago and luckily my phone in my pocket
1576
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,520
and I messaged a punter
and thought it was terrible
1577
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,277
and he had a big wad of
cash just couriered round to me.
1578
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,797
You know, look, this will tide you over
1579
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,760
until the bank sort out and you
never feel really worried about
1580
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,397
how you're going to pay your
gas bill or if your car breaks down.
1581
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:29,677
It's just not an issue.
1582
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,280
So it's it's a very different
way of approaching finance,
1583
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,280
which can make it quite lonely actually,
in some ways, because you can't really
1584
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,597
connect and identify with
1585
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,237
like other mothers in the school playground
1586
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,917
who are worrying about how
they're going to feed their kids,
1587
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,197
that we could spread your legs. You know,
1588
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,037
there's a thought and you'll be fine.
1589
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,837
But then if you like that kind
of advice, mysteriously, it's
1590
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,560
well meaning.
1591
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,600
So I worked at the windmill for
about four months, so not that long.
1592
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,037
It was very long shifting.
1593
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,160
I spent an awful lot of time
hustling for punters attention.
1594
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,837
There were often about 100
girls and yeah, and I am quite shy,
1595
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,037
so I didn't really thrive in
that kind of environment.
1596
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,717
I did a bit.
I didn't do too badly,
1597
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,320
but I got tired of all the constant
hustle and the competition.
1598
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,480
So I went to the sunset strip theater,
which was just around the corner
1599
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:20,877
where it's different now.
1600
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,277
But at the time you just went on stage
for 8 minutes about every 100 minutes.
1601
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,640
So about eight or nine
girls usually working there.
1602
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,640
You would just go on stage,
you'd get paid by the management
1603
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,437
and you'd get tipped
when you were on stage.
1604
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,200
There was no actual interaction
with the punters unless you wanted,
1605
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,357
but that seemed to suit me better.
1606
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:38,117
So I loved it.
1607
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,557
I was on stage for 8 minutes, so
you sort of developed your own shows.
1608
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,037
You had all these costumes and routines.
1609
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,437
It was very much old school
1610
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,957
striptease, which I absolutely loved,
and lovely bunch of girls, really nice.
1611
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,437
Still in touch with lots of them.
1612
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:54,237
That was 97 ish and yeah,
and I only left there actually
1613
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,200
because the management changed
hands and things were starting to change.
1614
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,200
I still think of it very fondly every
day with sunny at the sunset strip
1615
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,357
and we were given money
for vodka every week.
1616
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:05,957
They thought if we got
drunk we'd flash more.
1617
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,680
I would flash happily, it doesn't
take vodka, but I do like vodka.
1618
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,117
So we were constantly slightly tipsy.
1619
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,917
And so from there I moved
into like the pub circuit.
1620
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,677
I was working the rainbow pub circuit
1621
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,000
and it was like 50p
in a pint pot type thing.
1622
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,197
You'd go round, get a collection,
and then you get up on stage.
1623
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,800
If there was a stage or you
just like wonder about if not
1624
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,637
and take your clothes off to a song.
1625
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,637
I did that for a few years.
1626
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:32,080
Then I started doing stripper
grams as well, which was great fun.
1627
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,797
And it's like 70, 80 quid
for like 6 minutes work.
1628
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,597
You just run into a pub,
take your clothes off.
1629
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,677
It seems astonishing now
that that ever happened.
1630
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,477
I remember like going to
1631
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,240
to a harvester a Sunday lunchtime
and doing a fully nude strip.
1632
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,040
So it's a very different time.
1633
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,277
Then I got pregnant and
1634
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,637
so I started working on a
chat line while I was pregnant.
1635
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,397
I was doing like cheap chat.
1636
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,120
I'm just sitting here all alone,
nearly naked and juicy, working
1637
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:56,837
my feet up and curlers in.
1638
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,840
And I was watching this morning, I
kind of did that while I was pregnant
1639
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,677
and I went back into stripper grams
because it's quite a good job to have like
1640
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,397
when you have a baby
because you can just like,
1641
01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:06,357
take your baby around with you
1642
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:08,597
and put the baby behind the
ball while you're doing it. Stripping.
1643
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,597
And then hopefully remember
to pick the baby back up again
1644
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,317
and go out and do the next stripagram.
1645
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,917
Oh, gosh. Then what?
1646
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,037
And then I thought, well, this
I'm going to become ridiculous.
1647
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,477
I was approaching 30 at that
point, so I thought, I don't want to be
1648
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,640
hysterical, saggy,
wrinkliest, stripper in town.
1649
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,957
So I started to look
for other things to do,
1650
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,437
and that's when I remembered
that I've been doing spanking porn.
1651
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,760
Back in the day, I thought, oh, you know,
I wonder if I could get back into that.
1652
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,280
So I saw an advertisement
in the stage newspaper.
1653
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,397
They wanted girls to make
spanking videos and I applied
1654
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,840
and I got the job and I went down to
Bournemouth to shoot with Vixen ladies.
1655
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,600
And I loved it and just loved it.
1656
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,837
And again, you just don't meet
people and I met a lot of women
1657
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,880
who offered 1 to 1
discipline sessions as well,
1658
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,237
and they were the ones with
the enormous detached houses
1659
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,117
and the kids in boarding
schools and the range rover.
1660
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,840
On the drive, I bet I bet I could do that
1661
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:00,800
and I could.
1662
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,757
I'm extremely disappointed
in your recent bad behavior.
1663
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,920
Jenkins
1664
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,317
I understand from all your teachers
that you are persistently rude
1665
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:10,757
and disruptive in class.
1666
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,400
Indeed, you even bother to turn up at all.
1667
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,157
My character is miss Matthews.
1668
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,997
She's oh, she's quite like me,
but probably slightly less energetic.
1669
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,437
And she's more constantly
disappointed and more stern.
1670
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,957
So I'm quite giggly and
silly, but she's very firm
1671
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,637
and yeah, she has her particular
standards and she likes them met.
1672
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,320
She likes things done her way,
and it was a custom film I was making.
1673
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,720
Gosh, must be dread to
think ten, 15 years ago.
1674
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,917
And the client who wrote the
script for me to follow call me Ms..
1675
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,357
Matthews. And it stuck.
1676
01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:46,240
And some of that went out on clips for
sale and onlyfans and all the rest of it.
1677
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,037
And so I started being Ms.
Matthews who I became Ms..
1678
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,400
Matthews on Twitter and
and have been ever since.
1679
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,277
You've simply ceased to stop trying.
1680
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,480
And I don't understand it.
1681
01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:59,397
Your homework is a very poor standard.
1682
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:02,000
Again you very seldom
even bother to hand it in.
1683
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,400
You are late, rude, disruptive,
1684
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,277
and it's affecting your other classmates
and it cannot be allowed to continue.
1685
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,920
So we've had a meeting about
you and we all are in agreement
1686
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,160
that you are in dire need
of a short, sharp shock.
1687
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,717
I'm sure you understand what that means.
1688
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,917
You've heard the rumors about
what happened in the school.
1689
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,677
No doubt they're all true.
1690
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,880
I'm afraid I'm going to
bend you over my desk,
1691
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,880
remove your trousers and pants,
1692
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,400
and I'm going to give you
1693
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,480
half a dozen short, sharp
stingers with the cane.
1694
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:45,360
And believe me, Jenkins, you will not
be able to believe how very much it hurts.
1695
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,397
I got mail today addressed
to Mrs. Matthews.
1696
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:50,240
It's very sweet. She's
got married suddenly.
1697
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,277
Yes, she's quite like me.
1698
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,480
She has an English
degree and she talks like me.
1699
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,317
She probably is. She wears
more clothes than me, to be honest.
1700
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,080
I was doing a shoot for the times last year
1701
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:03,917
and they said, is this what you would wear?
1702
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,277
Can you wear something to wear for session?
1703
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,357
I was wearing something a bit
like this and I couldn't believe it.
1704
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:09,197
But it's like a silky
blouse and a pencil skirt
1705
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,160
and thick tights and a big rugged cardigan.
1706
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,960
Yeah. So Melissa tends to
dress more slutty, to be honest,
1707
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,917
sometimes I turn up for porn,
and they can as you look nice.
1708
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,197
But can you please just a
cover of your cleavage a little bit?
1709
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,160
Because you just showing
too much. Astonishing.
1710
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:25,957
The first stroke
1711
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,560
of the cane is not something
that is easily forgotten.
1712
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:30,997
You'll be crying.
1713
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,357
And screaming and hopping
about and begging for mercy, but
1714
01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:39,240
there will still be five more blows still
to come on, your young, tender flesh.
1715
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,677
And I am confident that that will nip
1716
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,520
this dreadful behavior in the bud
and get you back to being the pleasant.
1717
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,717
Charming, clever.
1718
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,917
Young boy we all remember from
yesteryear who seems to have mysteriously
1719
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,080
vanished in a fog of
hormones and wickedness.
1720
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,040
The cane is very good at removing
wickedness from naughty boys and girls.
1721
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,160
So in your own time, bend over
1722
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,840
and I remove those trousers for you.
1723
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,080
I think my accent has been a huge
part of my success as a disciplinarian.
1724
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:15,597
So usually I play in videos or in sessions.
1725
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,677
Actually, I play a sort of 1950s
headmistress, and the fact that
1726
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:23,117
I have this demeanor and
accent and I'm quite eloquent
1727
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,917
and I can usually improvise on
camera has been a huge asset.
1728
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,197
Yeah, I learned quite early on that
men and women, but particularly men,
1729
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,080
let's face it, really like
the fact that I sound like,
1730
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,117
yeah, somebody from a Noel coward play.
1731
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,037
They respond really well to that because
often your client base is much older.
1732
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,757
And I do remind them of, you
know, nanny or that governess
1733
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,877
or that headmistress from back in the
day and they really respond, well to that.
1734
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,517
Yeah. Rather than girls
with an Essex accent.
1735
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:50,960
No offense.
1736
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,637
I also model as Ms. Matthews
if I'm making films, I'm generally
1737
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,957
Ms. Matthews yeah, but I'm
modeling for all sorts of things.
1738
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,157
I do whatever I'm told to do, really.
1739
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,200
I'm very submissive
dominatrix! I do what I'm told.
1740
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,077
So quite often as well.
1741
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,117
I do sploshing for example,
I do lots of foot stuff.
1742
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,077
What else do I do?
1743
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,720
I do do bondage occasionally doing a
shoot where I'm being tied up next week.
1744
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,717
Yes, I do whatever I'm told.
1745
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,757
I suppose I feel most
confident and comfortable as
1746
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,357
ms Matthews, and that's what
I make the most money doing,
1747
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:22,040
because that's what I'm known for.
1748
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,197
Oh, I've had so many memorable
shoots and such a long career
1749
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,357
that it's hard to think of anything
that's particularly stuck out.
1750
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:35,677
Oh, I made a custom film recently
where I had to sing to a camera
1751
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,397
that was really he just
wanted me to wear a posh hat
1752
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:41,517
and sing hits from his
childhood, from my playschool.
1753
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,080
That was sweet and lovely.
1754
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:45,757
Gosh, there've been so many.
1755
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,757
I did a splosh one recently when I was
like in a game show and I had to answer
1756
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,037
questions right or wrong and whatever I
said I seem to ended up getting dunked.
1757
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:53,320
That was fun.
1758
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,877
I was washing myself in
his bathroom afterwards.
1759
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,397
Absolutely covered in yogurt, in
the shower, thinking, wow, it's lucky
1760
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:02,360
I got all those degrees.
1761
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,800
And here I am again in a strange
men's bathroom covered in yogurt
1762
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,840
sploshing seems to be insanely popular
1763
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,440
if I put it on my onlyfans yeah,
people really seem to love it.
1764
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,597
I don't know why it's really good fun.
1765
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,040
I like being covered in
banana custard and stuff and
1766
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,037
yeah, I dread to think what's
going on in their minds really,
1767
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,197
and why that's erotic.
1768
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,037
I don't find it erotic, I have to say.
1769
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,477
Although sometimes, if you like sliding
banana custard down your tights and
1770
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,520
it kind of feels quite nice on your skin,
I suppose if you're having a food fight.
1771
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,317
But yeah, I donโt think I could
wank over it. But each to their own.
1772
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:37,357
I judge nobody.
1773
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:40,640
But it's a lark, isnโt it? Better
than working for the civil service.
1774
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,157
I do an awful lot of fetish stuff
1775
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,317
as well where I have
my toenails painted again.
1776
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,197
That's magnificent.
1777
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,197
The girls have to pay for that.
1778
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,117
I get paid to have it done to me.
1779
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,477
Tickling increasingly.
1780
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,157
Actually, I'm being asked
to do a lot of tickling shoots,
1781
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,157
which I hate because
I am genuinely ticklish.
1782
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,797
But also I quite like the challenge.
1783
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,161
So I get tied to a bed and a
man comes in and tickles me.
1784
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,717
My feet aren't too ticklish, so I
always tell him to concentrate on that.
1785
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,040
But I also like scream and want to
punch people if they come with it.
1786
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,637
What else?
1787
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,437
Yeah, it's mainly domination.
1788
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,237
I do, to be honest, I'm not
always a head mistress.
1789
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,240
I'm often like an angry aunt
or disappointed wife or boss, or
1790
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:23,320
sometimes I do like prison
officer type scenarios as well.
1791
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,960
Yeah, all sorts.
1792
01:30:26,440 --> 01:30:29,037
My work is seen as I
have a clips for sale site,
1793
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,157
elegant discipline that's
called I'm all over only fans.
1794
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,397
I'm on southern charms recently
and I say I work for some quite
1795
01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:38,557
big studios as well so people
1796
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:39,717
can see people know like Pandora.
1797
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,400
Blake I work with often Elsa Svensson.
1798
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,080
Who else?
1799
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:45,597
Sarah Gregory.
1800
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:46,597
All sorts. Yeah.
1801
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,157
So yeah, some quite big studios
are getting increasingly big actually,
1802
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:53,437
because I'm of promoting myself
more and more and getting out there
1803
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,840
and doing more international
shoots, which is thrilling.
1804
01:30:58,880 --> 01:30:59,997
I have built up a following.
1805
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,760
I've got quite a decent following now
on Twitter and on onlyfans as well and
1806
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:04,757
Iโve been doing it so long.
1807
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,277
People know me and remember
me from back in the day
1808
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,160
and they feel like they're my
friends and they kind of all my friends.
1809
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,560
See, I have clients that I've been
seeing for a good 15 years now
1810
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:14,957
and you become part of the
1811
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,237
but not quite part of the family,
1812
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,640
but you can be part of
the fabric of their existence.
1813
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,317
So you hear about, you
know, the death of the parents
1814
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:22,717
and the birth of their grandchildren.
1815
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,277
You do feel like part of
something. And I like that.
1816
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,357
I like that connection.
1817
01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:29,677
You know, it's you know, you have a
very intense experience with someone.
1818
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,760
Inevitably, you do get to
become friends with them and
1819
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,040
feel part of their life, which is gorgeous.
1820
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,157
I think one of the reasons I'm a successful
1821
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:40,677
model is nothing to do with my looks.
1822
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,477
It's because I answer my emails
1823
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,078
and so many girls do not answer
their bloody emails so that just people
1824
01:31:48,161 --> 01:31:51,240
often get me in short notice
because then I will turn up.
1825
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,637
And yet a lot of it is about
having the right mindset.
1826
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,640
So just turning up organized
with the clothes you need
1827
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,680
and not hung over, which I usually manage.
1828
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,317
I just ready to go and receptive
and not causing trouble.
1829
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,597
I'm really, really good actually.
1830
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,237
Just doing what I'm told and shutting up,
1831
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,917
which having worked with other
models I find can often be an issue.
1832
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,080
They think they know better and
maybe they do, but it's not their gig.
1833
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,477
So you just have to listen to
the director and do as you're told.
1834
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:15,917
Shut up and go home again.
1835
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,040
And I have a real skill for just yet
shutting up and doing as I'm told.
1836
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,517
Yeah, but answer your emails
1837
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,917
because last week I had to
play a 19 year old school girl.
1838
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,120
It's ridiculous. You know, 46 this year.
1839
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,837
But I was the only one. It was
only my bottom showing. Okay.
1840
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,000
But I was the only one who
answered the casting calls.
1841
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,840
Yeah. So
1842
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,757
There are a couple of silky blouses
1843
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,207
I wear all the time with a little pussy
1844
01:32:42,290 --> 01:32:43,997
bow, that I think are
satin and fully formed
1845
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:45,797
and everyone, like, says I
should have worn one today.
1846
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:47,477
Actually, yes.
1847
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,480
It tends to be that pencil skirt
cardigan that's kind of our uniform
1848
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,837
tights or stockings and
heels like Mary Jane heels.
1849
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,280
Nothing too massive tends to be it just,
you know, fifties headmistress really,
1850
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,437
which is lucky because that's
kind of the outfit that suits me.
1851
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,720
Lots of fun, fully fashioned,
fully seam stockings
1852
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,757
and like old fashioned
suspender belts, that kind of thing.
1853
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,877
That's tends to I say that suits me.
1854
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,157
I'm a curvy girl, so that works
quite nicely with my figure.
1855
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,237
Yeah, I don't go in much for latex.
1856
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,557
And I did a shoot with fetishized
recently where I had to like wear latex,
1857
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:20,957
but I'm just too big.
1858
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,517
This is made for like size six girls.
1859
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,837
I'm not size six, but it was quite fun.
1860
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,277
I ended up getting like a gas mask
1861
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,557
and a big like latex raincoat
and wet suit and stuff.
1862
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,757
That was cool. And it
was boiling hot day as well.
1863
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:32,680
Going to die
1864
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:34,757
with bondage gear.
1865
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,880
It was fun.
It was an experience.
1866
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,757
I sort of have a classroom
setting that I use at home.
1867
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,317
You see, I've got like a library type
affair next door, so I will use that.
1868
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,277
And it's like the head
mistressโ study vibe.
1869
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,717
So they'll take in a head mistressโ
desk and a big like a big pot of canes.
1870
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:54,957
And that that works.
1871
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,277
I do work in places
that have like designated
1872
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,680
classroom area so whipstock
grange, which is down in Portsmouth,
1873
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,317
they have an actual house that is
entirely set up like a a classroom.
1874
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,077
They have like a headmaster's
study and like a school dining hall.
1875
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,637
It's incredible.
1876
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:11,517
I love working down there.
1877
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,637
Sometimes I film and see clients there,
but more usually that's just for school
1878
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,637
roll play days.
1879
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,920
There's a few of those
actually hire dungeons,
1880
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,197
and there's a couple in London
that have their own designated school.
1881
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,880
And so I quite often go
and work there as well. Yes.
1882
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,440
And in terms of the session,
there's usually a role play scenario
1883
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,077
which they'll tell me beforehand,
or sometimes I'll hand me
1884
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,517
the letter to the teacher so I
have to read them in front of them,
1885
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,597
look at a letter from their
mother, that kind of thing.
1886
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,040
So usually they've been
1887
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:40,157
doing what
1888
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,400
they've been doing, often, or they've been
1889
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:46,197
bunking off school or they've been
not just just not trying their hardest.
1890
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,517
They haven't had it in their
homework. They haven't been studying.
1891
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,037
You know, they can do better.
We're all very disappointed them.
1892
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,237
They're letting the school
down, that sort of thing.
1893
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,560
So they have to bend over my desk
and receive a good sharp beating,
1894
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:57,797
often with a cane.
1895
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,080
And I do over the knee spanking and slipper
1896
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,197
and airbrushing and whatever else,
have a wonderful collection of weapons.
1897
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,557
I use canes, my I love caning.
1898
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,997
It's so much fun.
1899
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:07,717
I just love it.
1900
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,077
I love everything about it.
1901
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,477
Which is weird because
I'm very sweet. Really.
1902
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,077
There's something about beating the shit
1903
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,037
out of someone and
leaving this lovely lines
1904
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,800
and making them scream and
dance about the room I just really love.
1905
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:19,637
I don't analyze it too much.
1906
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,200
It's just what I enjoys playing.
1907
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,797
I have been getting a lot
of female clients recently.
1908
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,157
That's quite a modern phenomenon.
1909
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,277
I think the last couple of years really,
I've started seeing more and more women
1910
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,800
before that, maybe just one or
two in the whole of my career.
1911
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,837
And I think probably that's in part
because they see me on Twitter
1912
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,037
all the time where I'm very active
1913
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,957
talking about how I'm seeing
this woman and that woman.
1914
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:43,997
They feel safe to come and see me.
1915
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,680
And also because I I'm just very
open and out there with my life.
1916
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:48,677
I think it's incredibly brave.
1917
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:49,837
I'm not sure I'd have the courage
1918
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,957
to approach a sex worker and ask
them to fulfill fantasies, you know?
1919
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:55,877
So I really, really admire them.
1920
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,360
And I try my very best to make
this comfortable as possible.
1921
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,557
And I was incredibly nervous, of course.
1922
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:05,317
And I want to role play school girls
and often the boundaries start to blur
1923
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,717
a little bit with women because then
men want to session with them as well.
1924
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,997
So they want to be beaten
alongside a beautiful girl.
1925
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,720
And then I start using them as
my onlyfans for my custom clips.
1926
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,397
So very often they go from
being a client into becoming
1927
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:21,557
like a colleague really, or a friend,
and they get beaten free, which is lovely.
1928
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,440
Everyone's happy.
1929
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:27,437
I don't think there's
1930
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,600
really very much difference between
woman sessions and men sessions.
1931
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,760
I think just it all depends
really on the individual.
1932
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,717
Some women think they only want a
very light spanking, some very light,
1933
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,600
and then they say, oh, I can
definitely take it much harder than that.
1934
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,597
Often women can take an
astonishing amount of pain.
1935
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,400
Just staggering.
1936
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:47,717
Yeah, it just depends.
1937
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,597
Often women like to role play a lot,
1938
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,117
so they have like a full hour of role
play and they like to communicate.
1939
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,357
Often that is a difference.
1940
01:36:54,440 --> 01:36:57,197
But before and between
sessions they like to role
1941
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,597
play with me in
messenger, that kind of thing,
1942
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,040
which I tend not to get so much
with men, so it tends to be more
1943
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,557
inventive, I suppose.
1944
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,077
But again, I don't like to stereotype.
1945
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,200
It really just depend on the individual.
1946
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,837
Yeah, I think women maybe tend to be
more needy and demanding of my time,
1947
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,397
but again, there are plenty
of men that do that as well.
1948
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:19,000
So yeah, it just depends on the person.
1949
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,637
I get a lot of women saying to me
that they think they could do my job,
1950
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,717
that they'd love to be a
dominatrix because they hate men
1951
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:27,837
and they want to with their backs
1952
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,680
and kick them in the balls and
tell them they're worthless worms.
1953
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,197
And that isn't how it works.
1954
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,277
I think you have to love your clients
to do what I do, because you're doing
1955
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,560
you're playing exactly
how they want to play your
1956
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,677
you know, you're playacting
that you are in charge.
1957
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:40,717
But of course they're in charge.
1958
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,320
They set the boundaries
and the terms for the session.
1959
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,957
And so you have to love the clients.
1960
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,037
You have to love men. And
I do love men. I really do.
1961
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,520
And I think men are
genuinely this sounds like a line,
1962
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,517
but I think they're so brave to come to a
stranger and say, I want to do this even.
1963
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,120
It's incredibly weird. And I
have had a lot of really weird
1964
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,917
requests and
1965
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,480
trust I'll do it and not laugh and not
ask why and not tell tales on them.
1966
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:07,157
I think they're magnificent. I truly do.
1967
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,997
Kinky people genuinely are the cleverest,
most creative people I've ever met
1968
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:12,917
and my absolute best friends.
1969
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,640
They really are.
1970
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,117
There's definitely a sexual element
to the scene and to sessioning.
1971
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:20,117
I mean, if I'm seeing women,
1972
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,317
I can usually smell their
arousal, which is quite exciting.
1973
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,157
And obviously with men I can
see their arousal, so that's fine.
1974
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:26,757
Yeah, but it's
1975
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,200
the sexual element happens in their
brains and not between our bodies.
1976
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:35,197
So I'm saying things which if you're not
into kink, would not seem remotely sexy.
1977
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,800
My husband isn't into this
at all, and he just can't get
1978
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,237
why anyone would want to be hit
with a big stick and get paid for it.
1979
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:42,317
He doesn't get it,
1980
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,557
but if you're into the scene,
you're into kink, then yes,
1981
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,317
it is incredibly sexual, of course,
and they get very aroused and so do I.
1982
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,717
Sometimes I can hear myself
sloshing when I'm walking about.
1983
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,840
Afterwards, thinking. That was really cool.
1984
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:54,637
I beat the life out of and they loved it.
1985
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:55,757
It was brilliant.
1986
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,400
Massive high. It's great.
I'm very lucky. I really
1987
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,197
if you're interested in becoming a model,
1988
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,437
I'd say talk to people
who've been doing it.
1989
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:07,837
There's a huge community out there, say,
1990
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,680
particularly on Twitter, the
kink community is so supportive.
1991
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,640
It's like no other element of
Twitter that I've ever experienced.
1992
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,920
We're all out for each
other's backs. We really are.
1993
01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:20,037
I've had so much good advice
from particular female models,
1994
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,960
I have to say, and other directors,
they're really out there for you.
1995
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,637
I'd also say by my book,
1996
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,917
which is a fictionalized account of
my experiences in the sex industry.
1997
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,717
There's loads and loads of good advice
in there about how to become a model,
1998
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,277
how to become a disciplinarian
1999
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,800
or dominatrix or whatever
else you'd like to get into.
2000
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:37,397
And it's really good and funny.
2001
01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:39,560
Everyone says so, not
just me. So yeah, by that,
2002
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,357
yeah, just talk to people really.
2003
01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:44,357
And obvious things.
2004
01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:46,037
Make sure people know what you're doing.
2005
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,597
Somebody knows if
particularly if you're going to a
2006
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,797
hotel room or something,
make sure you ring a friend
2007
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,440
and say, I'm here and
I'll be out in 2 hours.
2008
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,557
I was working as a newsreader, working.
2009
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,240
I was volunteering actually on local radio.
2010
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:03,557
But when I came out as a sex
worker, which is always everyone sort of
2011
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,840
known about, it has always
been the butt of jokes, which is fine.
2012
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,637
It's hilarious. I get it.
2013
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,917
But when I started talking about it
on Instagram and Twitter and I did
2014
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,957
an interview with a local newspaper,
I was suspended, which was a shame
2015
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,801
because I was a really good
newsreader and I just done my DJ training
2016
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,157
and I never said anything
remotely saucy on air.
2017
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:21,677
I was incredibly bland and boring.
2018
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,117
I would be talking about, you know,
2019
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,680
the government and lockdowns and so
on and never ever mentioned any of it.
2020
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,997
But they just felt that
yeah, they couldn't tolerate
2021
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,157
having a sex worker among
the volunteers, which was idiotic.
2022
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,037
I think a lot of people seem to agree.
2023
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,117
But cinque ports radio have taken me on.
2024
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,640
Now I'm doing Melissa's
love lounge 10 P.M. to 1 A.M.
2025
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:42,237
Every weekday night.
2026
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,717
I'm still getting used to the tech
because I'm recording it from home.
2027
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,237
It's very different set up.
2028
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:47,477
I'm loving it. It's great.
2029
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,637
And they quite like me talking about
kink and my modeling sessions and stuff.
2030
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,640
So hopefully I'll be building
up a following that and yeah,
2031
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,597
get to use this voice for something else
other than scolding naughty schoolboys.
2032
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,480
Fun as that is.
2033
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:06,477
I started writing this book about ten years
ago, I think possibly something like that.
2034
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,680
I started writing my stripping memoirs
2035
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,317
because everyone kept saying,
you should write a book, you know?
2036
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,520
So I wrote about that, and
then I left it and forgot all about it.
2037
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,757
And then lockdown happened and
I suddenly found I had all this time
2038
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,757
on my hands and I was just lying
in my garden with nothing to do.
2039
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,437
So I thought maybe get back to that.
2040
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,677
And I had to look at it. I thought,
actually, that isn't half bad.
2041
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,600
I could use it, I could
do something with it.
2042
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,440
I decided to fictionalize it
and hide behind a character
2043
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,877
because my life's quite boring. Really.
2044
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:32,797
I think so.
2045
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,157
I thought I would have someone
else and make these her experiences,
2046
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,117
but they are really all my experiences.
2047
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,317
And that meant I could play
around with things like relationships.
2048
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,277
And it's basically a love story, really.
2049
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,717
But it's there's also a
lot of really sound advice
2050
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,557
I explain exactly how I got
started and assorted pitfalls
2051
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,877
I should have avoided and would
have if anyone had told me anything.
2052
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,680
I wasn't just making it up as I went along.
2053
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,557
And I tell you about how to advertise
2054
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,360
the kind of equipment you need if
you want to begin as a dominatrix.
2055
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,000
Yeah, websites that will
help you, all sorts of things.
2056
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,997
So I really do genuinely recommend
it is a very sound investment.
2057
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,440
If you're thinking of getting into
modeling or indeed kink of any description
2058
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:13,917
you can buy on Amazon.
2059
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,078
Of course, in whsmith's
website, waterstones,
2060
01:42:16,161 --> 01:42:17,757
Barnes and noble. I'm everywhere.
2061
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,477
My publisher has been
really very efficient.
2062
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:21,597
So yeah, just Google the title.
2063
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,677
It's on eBay now.
2064
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,037
I see people are buying like selling
secondhand copies of some pages.
2065
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,197
How dare they. I donโt
think I get the money for that.
2066
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:29,440
So don't do that.
2067
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:30,477
Yeah, go on Amazon.
2068
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,237
That's probably best
if you're in broadstairs
2069
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,077
you can buy at the Royston pub down
the road. I get all the money for that.
2070
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:36,517
Except that, then I spend it on beer.
2071
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,437
I probably don't do that.
2072
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:43,040
Do you think we might see a 50 shades
of gray style movie come from this book?
2073
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,797
Oh, I would love this to
be filmed. I would so love it.
2074
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,080
It will not be 50 shades of
gray because it'll be good.
2075
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,717
And actually, there isn't a
great deal of sex in this book.
2076
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:51,717
I do want to put people off.
2077
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,237
I say it's some it's not terribly saucy.
2078
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:55,757
So it wouldn't be 50 shades of gray themed,
2079
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,957
but it would, I think,
make a really good film.
2080
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,397
And I'd I'd pay to watch it.
2081
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:00,837
I tell you, I pay to be in it.
2082
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,120
It probably should have
me as a starring role
2083
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,037
and me as all the supporting parts as well.
2084
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:07,560
I like a camera me, as you can tell.
2085
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,157
I'd really like to carry on writing.
2086
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,640
I love it. I really do.
2087
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,437
I'd like to do
2088
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,437
more media work very much because I
think there's such a stigma around sex work
2089
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,800
and such a bad press all the time,
particularly around pornography.
2090
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,597
You see strip clubs in Bristol being
closed this week, you know, women
2091
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,560
being suddenly rendered unemployed
because of people's prejudice.
2092
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,637
So I'd really like to get out there
2093
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,157
because I'm in this
very privileged position
2094
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,477
where I can show my face
and talk about what I do.
2095
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,037
I'd like to do more of it and
to say, look, I'm not terrifying.
2096
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:41,197
I'm not going to steal your husband.
2097
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,477
I'm not I'm not a junkie.
2098
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,437
You know, I'm not getting
beaten up by my pimp.
2099
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:45,317
I'm not trafficked.
2100
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,997
I'm just a really average
boring woman who happens
2101
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,760
to have a lot of fun all day, every
day and make a lot of money doing it.
2102
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,997
More media work, more writing.
2103
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:56,797
And also I want to be
an international megastar.
2104
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:01,197
So I'm already this year I've done
quite a lot of international work.
2105
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,597
It's just from the square that was
like my domestic responsibilities
2106
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,877
because I also have to
make the dinner, obviously.
2107
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,517
Am I like literary and
broadcasting stuff that I do as well.
2108
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,357
I love. I'd love to be just
like a megastar, really.
2109
01:44:12,440 --> 01:44:13,077
That's the plan.
2110
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:14,597
That's all. Just world domination.
2111
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:16,440
Well, you know, standard.
2112
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:24,760
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