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The past few weeks have traitors and allies
played a psychological game,
where good has triumphed over evil.
Tonight I have invited everyone to the castle of Hoen
to look back together on this unforgettable adventure.
Good people. - Sorry Sorry sorry.
Dear all. Nora can't be there
so I suggest making a video for her.
We miss you. - Noratje.
Hey, Nora. I'm sorry, honey.
Too bad you can't be there.
Welcome everyone.
Yes, welcome to Hoen Castle . Glad you're here.
Glad to see you. I hope that feeling is mutual.
I think there is a lot to talk about.
We will do that later, because first we will look at the final.
Sit down, come. - Hoppa.
We meet again a few months after the shooting,
but just before the last broadcasts.
The losers therefore have no idea
what happened after they left .
The temptation of Niels, Loïc's kamikaze plan
and the victory of the allies.
They remain surprising twists and scenes
that everyone discovers with fascination. Or relive.
I've been marked as a traitor in the game, but I want the allies to win.
Now I know why you have to sit in the front, dude.
Niels votes for Hannelore.
Stom, it is.
Where's that fucker?
Thank you for playing along.
Success, Jamie. - Thanks.
I'm calling to tell you I'm in the finals. Who would have thought that?
Sorry if I broke your trust,
because I am the last traitor.
Do you realize that you are the winners of The Traitors?
Really, kudos to all four of you.
What was all that? - Congratulations.
I think there are still a lot of questions.
That everyone also wants to say something, but we start with you, Loïc.
How are you? - When I see the images: Better than then.
Yes. You really didn't feel well, did you? - Yeah, I was really no good.
We thought: We choose a building with a large gate,
because we also no longer knew who you could go through the same door with.
No, but are you happy to see everyone again?
Yeah, it's nice to have everyone here.
I have a lot of questions for you
but I think the fellow traitors also have questions.
Walter, for example. You were out before these episodes.
Do you understand what Loïc has done? - Absolute.
How so? - Yes.
Because I think as a traitor on the other side you underestimate one thing:
You are human and you want to betray,
but you do n't want to sacrifice everything for that.
And for Loïc and myself , the pact was very important,
because it also kept us feeling a bit human.
I knew that Loïc was very, very sensitive about that
and that he would never, ever accept the breaking of a pact.
And then when I watch the episode,
then you can almost see the inner despair in him,
where he's like, I can't function that way.
And that's how the real honesty comes out,
which isn't great game-wise, but as a human it is. And I understand him in that.
Astrid, in episode four you almost went crazy too.
You were like, What is all this? They don't follow.
When you see this now, do you fall out of your chair? Do you think: What is all this?
After episode four , I was utterly disgusted with that pact,
because there were three allies who teamed up with the traitors
against us allies who were not in the pact.
Yeah, we just didn't stand a chance, I thought.
We didn't know they were traitors.
We didn't know there were three in our pact, of course.
Astrid, neither did you at the time, I think.
I didn't at the time, but after seeing it I did.
So I think it's crazy that they wanted to stay in that pact for so long.
That's basically just my idea.
So I guess it was okay for me to get killed that night.
I don't know if I could have done much.
Okay, Astrid. We'll talk more later, but let's start with Loïc.
It was quite an adventure, wasn't it? A crazy adventure.
You were excited.
Let's take a look at your trajectory.
Even before Loïc arrives at the castle,
is he already the mastermind behind the pact in car one.
We are six. What if we support each other a bit?
If we don't vote for each other in the first three days, you guarantee...
The first three days. - That's a good plan.
Okay. - I approve.
When I call him a traitor,
the nerves scream through his throat.
Pretend nothing happened. Do as you would be.
And that was nervous. So I immediately did this...
But the following days Loïc cycles whistling through the game.
It's the second time the traitor has a shield,
and then another two days in a row.
All the cards are in our hand. We just have to lay them.
His strategy as a traitor?
Does anyone need coffee?
be Switzerland. The neutral, jovial cook
tempts allies especially with food and drink.
Oh, that's kinda warm too.
But after his hours , Loïc plays the game hard.
I have my notebook.
I'm glad you brought your notebook. - That's great too.
Someone is being murdered from car two or three tonight.
We don't have a choice either. We ca n't kill anyone from our car.
That's impossible, because that's our strength.
That's our pact of six.
We have to respect that, because I think it goes mathematically
be the key to victory. - Yes.
Loïc is also a man with a conscience.
Can I confess something first?
I'm a little embarrassed that I killed Inge.
We're not going to break our deal with car one . I won't.
When Jamie-Lee votes for Walter, the spring is broken.
I'm just screwed sick.
Loïc devises a plan to create chaos,
but ends up signing his own death warrant.
Today is my last day. - Allee, come on.
And why then? - I want to end up as an ally.
The moment of truth. I don't see any other solution.
Dear Allies, all vote unanimously for me.
A second traitor leaves tonight.
What are you actually saying? - I'm a traitor.
You know that if you reveal your identity as a traitor to the table,
that the game ends.
In other words: That is also the decision we are making now.
Loïc has to go home tonight.
As I said earlier: An enthusiastic Loïc who is very excited in the beginning.
But then something snaps in your head and you think, okay, no. I'll put a bomb under it.
Because you kind of did. - Yes. I made two promises.
That is that I do not betray my traitors. Whatever.
And that is that I will not betray that pact.
I've had the feeling during the game
that I was betrayed by my fellow traitor myself.
To which I thought: That's not how the game is played.
The aim is to remain in the majority.
And then when it blows up,
then I saw no other way but to react by destroying myself in the game.
But wouldn't it have helped if you had told Jamie-Lee beforehand:
That's my plan, so you know?
I trusted no one anymore. Really nobody.
Not you, not Jamie. The allies. - Hello. Now I've done it.
Not the programmers. I trusted no one anymore.
So I thought, I'm not telling anyone. I was completely paranoid. Complete.
I was so mad at Jamie then, I thought:
Let me go now, and there's only one traitor left
and the allies always win.
At least Jamie-Lee had told me very early in the game
what her plan was.
It's rock hard. You have to lie, cheat.
I would also sacrifice traitors to finish the game.
I've already thought about that. And that's dirty.
Jamie-Lee, it was your plan on day one.
I just knew that when the time comes to vote for a traitor...
For example that day.
If I hadn't voted for Walter, he'd still have five votes.
Then there were four of us on Maureen and he was still out.
Walter was also starting to stand out. Dropping my name sometimes too.
No no. I never dropped your name.
That's just the click in the program that is broadcast incorrectly.
It's kind of implied and that's not right.
There was never any moment of potential betrayal there
from me to the traitors.
And that should not be used or abused today
to come up with a plan of your own.
But what I understand from you, Jamie, is that you say:
I then voted not to make me suspicious,
but not with the intention of voting Walter out.
I went along. No, I wanted Walter out at that moment,
because I thought: It's getting too obvious anyway . I'm just in.
Because I knew it from others, I was all around listening.
Sometimes I also knew more.
And then when I said something, it kind of became withered. sometimes
And I knew: Okay, then we'll vote him out,
we play with two and we can continue playing.
Jamie, can I ask you one more question? Why do you come to me on day two:
"I want Walter out"? - Day two?
Yes, day two. That was not filmed, but it happened.
Day two? I don't remember that.
Yes, and you can also suddenly explain why you start saying everywhere
"Walter has to go, Walter has to go, Walter has to go"
and then finally let Niels do the dirty work
to make yourself safe again, because you just contradict yourself again.
First it is: Walter named me.
But search all possible images. You won't find that.
Yes? And then you say: Yes, but then I just followed Niels.
And just now you come back in your defense with: Walter became too obvious.
Or too obvious. While I had zero votes the day before. Zero.
And then if you stay with three, and that's something I don't understand,
the power of numbers:
Three traitors who stay together almost always win.
Is that indeed something, Jamie-Lee, that you think in retrospect:
If I hadn't done that, we would have been longer with three
and were we much more likely to survive? Was that a mistake or not?
I do not know. You never know what it would be like
if the three of us were still there at that time.
But I do know, and I said so the day before, that Nora was on you.
Because you said to Nora the day before, It's Walter.
That is not true. - Yes. That has even been on TV.
Yes, but there were still people on you. - Yes. But everyone was on top of each other.
But you underestimated how important it was to the fellow traitors
to keep supporting each other.
I think the truth is between the two. What Jamie says is also true.
You were going to get out.
I think: Everyone has made mistakes. That's the game.
Me the first, we've seen it all.
But I think that's where the mistake is that we didn't communicate,
because then I would have had to vote full for Walter
to stay under the radar. And then we had, I think, another...
Then there would have been another situation where Jamie and I were left together, of:
We've had to sacrifice Walter now, but now we have to continue with two.
Jamie told me what her plan was, but you told me something too.
Let's see. - Yes, I know what you...
"I always play by the rules." Look, huh.
Loïc, would you like to be a traitor? - I would like to be, yes.
Could you lie constantly? - I can play a game.
And if I have to follow the rules for that,
because after all, those are the rules of the game, then I will, yes.
Yes, you can see that coming, that they were going to use that.
Ah yes. Those are the rules of the game.
Ward? - Uh, yeah.
Loic, are you sorry? - Yeah right.
That was just stupid. That's just an error.
If I had just said that I really didn't feel well anymore
and that I wanted to leave, then I probably would have left,
but not with the damage that has been done afterwards. And that... Yes.
That's breaking the rules. That's making a mistake.
And that's why I'm sitting on the blisters now, on the couch, and that's terrible.
Soon we will talk further with all the traitors,
but anyway, thanks for participating.
Four allies took home the overall victory.
Each in their own way, they survived all round tables
and nocturnal killings.
I am a competitive animal, so I would really like to go for the win.
I actually like challenges that go beyond the normal.
Hello Hello.
Yes, that was pretty intense. I noticed that I was immediately paying attention to everything.
I'm not sure about anyone. I just have a few suspects.
I'm deliberately keeping myself very much in the background at the moment.
'I swear on my child', she started with that.
Sorry, Wendy.
One down. - She wasn't going to survive anyway.
She or him? Walter. She?
I have your name, but those are tears.
No. Well played.
As an ally, it is wisest to vote for you now.
Sorry. - Difficult. Difficult.
We think it's a pity now, don't we?
Astrid is back to L.A.
I think before we vote we need to come to a consensus.
We're not doing well.
Yes, but I just find it infuriating that we're being bullied again.
I just hope Walter 's going to give his theory sometime soon.
Walter, I really think it's you. I'm actually 100 percent sure.
I think I know who the traitors are.
You'll have to write down Walter's name later. And that's all you should do.
That was so good.
I think today is the day I 'm going to try to win that race here.
My name for today is Walter.
No one can do it like you do. And therefore your name.
Mother.
I actually know that you are a traitor. I can say that to you.
Why does a traitor want to go home now?
Guys, come on.
I want to know who the hell is driving my head so crazy.
Who the fuck played me like that?
do you trust me? - I don't trust anyone anymore.
I think we always keep doubting until the last moment.
This is the last round table.
Here you go.
But I'm voting for you tonight.
That's Jamie. - What an adventure.
Jump.
Voila, see. Here they are.
The winners of The Traitors, the first season. Very nicely done.
Kim, how did you experience that?
I have to say that I did the first two, three nights, according to my husband
had very vivid dreams, like I was still in that game.
Apparently I also said things like… Oh, this is actually embarrassing:
It's Walter, the game. I don't want to get out.
That it really woke me up and said: You're home.
Ah yes. Okay okay.
Looking at yourself now, are you happy with how you played the game?
Yes, super happy. Yes Yes.
And I've tried to stay real close to myself,
and that was keep calm, keep calm, until I...
You're going to see that too. One day I get up and I think: Ah, yes. I see.
Then of course you have to start shooting.
I couldn't do it alone, of course. That was a happy coincidence
that at that moment I already had a rapprochement with Maureen and Niels,
who were coming to the same conclusions at the same time.
And I think we just in time... What's that called? Attack?
You can choose what you want.
But now you tell it like it was really easy,
but how stressful was it to play this game?
I found it very stressful because you...
The viewer at home, and I really want to say that sometimes...
I read a number of things on social media or on HLN:
'Well, you can see that anyway.'
No. No. That's not really fair
because when you're in there, everyone does suspicious things.
Or just not. Or can you also turn every theory around.
Yes. Ward, it was very stressful for Kim. Stress, is that a word you know?
I think you had eight days leave in Limburg.
Yes. Well, it felt that way to me...
I wouldn't say 'holiday', but it leaned towards it.
I noticed that everyone always said: I couldn't sleep,
and I don't care about this, but...
But which traitor surprised you the most?
Surprised? Looking back now, Walter, I think.
Yeah, how he kind of lays out the strategic lines and stuff, I think that's kind of cool.
And I just think the chicest thing about him
how he can easily put everything into words as if it were nothing.
And also when he is attacked.
Yeah, I'd freak out and say, Whoa, it's not me. It's not me.
But he does so very calmly. Allee.
It is of course also in his profession, he does it every day,
to sell some air, but...
Yes, it's been said, Walter. Sell air.
But it worked out well in that game too.
Bart, you've already participated in 100,000 game shows.
You have also already presented 100,000.
Is there a moment that you really won't forget
of the trip you have been on?
Gosh, I... At one point there was,
for an experiment we had to solve to find the containers,
that they asked me how many records I had recorded.
That you don't know. How can you not know that?
Yes, no cat knows that, does it?
How many times have you rowed? - Yes...
Including your workouts. You don't know that, do you? Or do you?
I know my titles, don't I, Bart. - Yes, that's true.
But I thought that was hilarious.
And ouch, that man thought I was going to take his cell phone.
But those are very nice moments.
Because I have to say honestly:
My final thought of this whole game is very positive.
I have experienced very nice moments, actually with everyone.
And I am also happy that I have met so many new people.
Some of them have also become true friends.
I think that's the most important thing. - Absolutely, yes.
Niels, you knocked Walter out with a legendary speech.
That was very punishment, but that's for now. See you soon.
Yeah, maybe I should n't have said that.
For the allies themselves, that has spoiled the whole game a bit.
I am not retracting my words. It's 1 against 17.
Welcome back to The Traitors reunion.
Niels, you kicked Walter out with a legendary speech.
Let's look at that one more time.
During my career we were often in the race
and then I had to ask my men to trust me. Hey?
They had to lead for me. I learned a lot from that.
You must be able to trust your men,
as we must be able to trust our allies .
Always playing open cards, trying to build a course
and ultimately to victory.
I've always learned from home that you have to fight in life.
Very important. You ca n't get anywhere without fighting.
Not in a career, not on TV. Nowhere.
That fighting, I think I got that from home.
My daddy is battling esophageal cancer to this day,
my mom is very young
became a single mother of two children.
So I do think I learned the lessons I got from my parents
and that I discovered myself by starting up my shop,
I want to pass it on to my daughter. Fight and be honest in life.
I think that 's a very important lesson.
The name I 'm going to write on my plate today,
is the name of whom I think would make a good traitor.
Walter.
Niels...
Yes, that deserves applause. Absolute.
How did you prepare that speech?
I just knew that if I catapulted it to Walter in short pieces,
because of his experience, he could always counter me
or try to do that...
And I had to play more on the emotional side of my allies
to get them into my story, instead of just trying:
Walter, I saw you do something suspicious.
Then he would say: Niels, you did that too, didn't you.
So I was actually trying to get more on the emotional side.
But you say 'playing the emotional',
but it seemed very real.
It came straight from the gut, what did you say? - Yes, yes.
And isn't that something, Walter, that when someone talks straight out of the gut
and emotion shows, that it is then very difficult to defend yourself?
Yes, and of course, Niels is there.
And bon, maybe also mention: Deepest sympathy.
For there have been words of a warring father.
And looking back, that was a very emotional moment for me as well.
Because I also talked to Niels about it a few times,
that it really bothered him. He mentions that in that speech.
Out of sincerity. Actually, he pays tribute to his father.
The man is now deceased. That was also something like: Gosh...
And now you see that again, and then that comes back in.
You can see that on my face too. I know in that moment that it is lost.
But I really didn't feel like it at all,
when someone does something so beautiful, and that might be a weird thing to say,
to bring that down.
Actually, I was very proud of Niels at that moment
that he had argued it that way .
And there I was actually very secret, in myself...
A little jealous. - ...to be proud of.
Maybe you can also adopt his terminology a bit in your profession.
Because it was nice how you worded it too.
Do you also say to your wife at home
"Honey, get me another water bottle," if you want a pint?
No. - It won't go that far.
But it's really nice to see
how those metaphors from cycling keep coming back. Really and truly.
Good morning.
I am a competitive animal, so I would really like to go for the win.
When you ride the course, you want to make it to the finish line.
I felt comfortable in the peloton. I was able to look around and see.
We are now in the fans. Now it's just survival.
Enough food and drink, my team leader would say.
And then you sometimes lose your pedals.
As the course progressed, I got smarter and smarter.
The leader of the other team is Walter, the super servant is Hannelore
and Loïc goes to get the water bottle, up and down to the car.
And when the final has to be driven...
am i there.
Ward, do you also use rowing metaphors so often,
or do you not have a 'boatship' with that?
No, in the game I have there... I haven't really used rowing metaphors.
You also had to row with the oars you had.
By the way... You did n't sit still there, or did you.
But you've been busy. You just trained.
You continued to train on the spot. - Yes Yes.
That was also one of the conditions to be able to participate,
because two weeks later I had my first indoor rowing competition of the winter.
And that's why it was ideal that I could train in the morning
and could lift weights in my room at night .
That did make sure Kim, that you already knew: Someone is still alive.
However? - Yeah, that's why I was so tired, wasn't it?
While we wanted to sleep... Yes, you heard that very loud.
But that's okay, because that was also soothing in the long run.
Then I heard that, and: Ah, he's awake.
But it paid off, because you won your second world title.
Yes Yes. That's right. - That's great.
Yes, thanks guys.
If you hadn't won a cup for rowing,
I think you would have won it for the most beautiful smile.
Thank you. Thank you.
Hello, I'm Ward. - I'm Wendy.
Hello, nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. Clean boy.
Why do you always look like that, Wendy? - I? Because you are a beautiful man.
Yippee.
Hop, hop, galloping horse.
'I do not know.'
Can I start eating already?
Loic, young. Crazy.
But please, Ward. Come on, young.
Come on, young.
So contagious. Really, dude. That's great.
Yes, I can't help it.
Hey, allies. You've done very well.
But you also sometimes really missed the ball.
At the very beginning, you take Wendy out. Let's see.
Would you like to be a traitor? - Actually, yes.
I think I'd like to put myself in the shoes of a rascal for once.
The rascal in Wendy soon flirts with a knockout.
Because even though she doesn't get a shield after the mission on the train,
she behaves rather mysteriously the first evening.
Yes, Wendy. You're a bit suspicious.
Playing innocence itself.
The rest of the candidates are therefore convinced
that Wendy has the shield.
Wendy doesn't shy away from naming names
and identify suspects. A risky strategy.
You're the first I had my eye on. - Real?
When my eyes opened.
If not, hey Wendy. That's not how we're going to play it.
The traitors cleverly take advantage of the Wendy mystery.
Wendy was shaking very hard.
But in any case, if she doesn't have it, she's a great actress.
I can look anyone straight in the eye: I am an ally.
We're going to vote.
Almost all allies agree with the allegation
and vote Wendy home first.
I am an ally.
Wendy, what actually went wrong?
Yes, what went wrong? I don't know, yes.
I haven't had the chance to develop in the game either.
I don't know what went wrong.
You weren't such a bad detective either,
because actually you already figured out Jamie-Lee at some point. Already on day one.
Indeed. Yes. But maybe I shouldn't have said that.
But she had said in the group: If I lie, I will turn red.
And Maureen came to ask everyone: Are you an ally?
She asked her that too and I stood there, and Jamie-Lee turned red.
Then maybe it was said... - I didn't kill you.
But you were a traitor, so yes. I actually had it a bit.
Wendy, would you play the game differently if you were to compete again?
I have to be honest...
Even in such a supposed game, for me it's...
Giving up your integrity is not an option for me.
And and.
I don't think I would get very far. No.
But I did say: I would like to be a traitor,
because as an actress you... I once played the witch and all.
There... Yes, well. So I wanted to throw myself into that.
But I never got the chance, so I can't say much about it.
Still, thanks for participating. - With pleasure.
And they are all cuties. I love to see them all.
Anyway, the winners are here with me.
But that's not entirely true either, because they played for silver.
And the only real winner is now sitting at home.
It has cost us, allies and traitors, blood, sweat and tears
to win this.
On all missions combined, we won twelve silver bars
and you have played en masse to try and predict
who is banished, who is killed,
who would stay in the game the longest .
Of course, only one of the 27,000 participants can win.
And that person...
he gets the silver treasure.
Mother.
Come on, young. Crazy. - Inge, surprise.
Alley, you fool. - Well, open up.
Oh, really cool.
Fuck. - Is not it great?
Wow. Thank you all for playing that.
Here you go. Voila. - Oh really.
I can't believe that. - That's okay.
I'm going to put that down, because that's twelve times...
Yes, that weighs heavily, amai. -... a kilo of silver.
Fuck, young. Oh, I can't say that.
Twelve times 700 euros.
That is 8,400 euros. - That is not possible.
However, it is, yes.
Voila, see. - I thought you came to cook.
No. That will be for another time. That will cost you two cubes of silver.
No, that's not true.
But voila, well done. Congratulations. Tell me, what's going through your mind?
I've never won anything. No, now I had time, because I...
I am recovering from cancer and I had so much time
to follow that, to think during the day about, yeah...
What are they going to do? Because I found it very difficult to estimate
if you sat at the round table, what would happen.
Because you put your people on it and you suddenly do something completely different.
Yes, I'm in for something. Sorry.
But look... - Allee, young...
Twelve times a kilo of silver. - You know what?
I will get my control scan next week or within 14 days.
Go on a good trip first. - Well, are you going to use that silver
to go on a trip? - Yes, a part anyway.
A piece of. - Voila.
Do you have to let someone know that you might have won?
Oh yeah. My husband. - Do you have your phone in your pocket?
Yes, wait. - What is your husband's name? Tony?
When he picks up.
Ja? - Tony?
Yes? - Loïc is at the door here.
With three cameramen. Well, with a whole camera crew.
Ah, right? - I have... How much was it?
Twelve silver bars. - Ah, all right.
I won 8,400 euros.
How many? - 8,400.
Go on, chic. - I've never won anything.
Yes, a person can be lucky once in a while in his life, right?
Oh really. - You've got the shiver.
Say, Tony. Take good care of your wife. She's all out of her milk.
But that's okay, isn't it, when you're on congé.
Yes. If she gets something, just resuscitate them . You can do mouth to mouth from me.
Very good. Agreed, Tony.
That's good. Salute. - Salute, bye, bye.
Keige, huh? Well done. - Wow, really.
Voila, Inge. I'm going to leave that here. Take advantage of your prize.
Greetings, it is. - Thank you, it is.
Come on, young. Crazy. Oh really...
I can't wear that.
Before the game even started,
you were divided into wagons and in one wagon a pact was forged.
Wagon one. You were in there. The allies from that pact.
Bart, what was the plan actually?
We simply said: What if we all band together?
And we knew that the program would include three traitors.
One in each car, we thought, because there were three cars.
Wrong idea, but okay.
But we thought if we could bundle all those voices together,
and during the day consult with each other: That's probably a traitor,
what do you think? Ah, maybe. Yes, okay.
And then when you add up those votes and then go after a traitor you suspect,
then there is also a much higher chance that it will go out.
And that was actually our initial intention.
And not just to conspire to save our skin.
It wasn't at all.
But we now sometimes come off as cowards and losers.
And if people stabbed those knives in the backs,
but that's not at all. That wasn't at all...
It was only with the good intentions that the allies should be victorious.
But the pact also had the big advantage:
You could very well keep an eye on who starts dropping names in that pact.
Whoever leads that pact a bit, who puts us six to one.
And for me that has been the advantage, that pact, that I was able to observe closely.
I also said it quickly: I suspect Walter
and I can operate well from his shadow,
because I also see how he communicates to us, what names he drops.
So at the time I didn't think so...
I actually thought that was a really good idea. Otherwise you have no idea.
How do we go to an end goal then? - Ah, that was very simple.
You survived X number of days.
The traitors had the opportunity to stay in the game.
Because you had the power of numbers: 6 to 18.
That means one third if everyone followed to go on a particular person.
Those who were allies could observe.
And they also felt, as it turned out,
that they were protected at night, and that is what happened.
We, as traitors, have never, ever sent anyone home from our wagon.
Can I say something about that too? I completely understand them.
And the pact, I totally get it.
But I just think it's a bit of a shame, and then I think purely playful.
Because what you're actually doing is playing a game within a game.
And what you actually do is say on the playground
with three strong men: We catch that sucker, then he's out of the game right away.
And that's what happened with the pact.
For the allies themselves, that has actually spoiled the whole game a bit.
And then you can contradict me. - No, that's true.
Especially since there were three traitors in that pact.
Yes, but that doesn't matter. - Then it wouldn't have been.
You wanted to blow it up, didn't you, Hannelore?
The day when Walter was still in it, I approached Kim in the morning
and said: That pact must stop, for I am beginning to suspect more and more
that we have at least two, maybe three in that pact.
I knew: If it's three, we can't really win anymore.
For the other allies, of course, it sucked that there was a pact.
Of course, yes. - Some even said:
Actually, there are six traitors.
Wasn't it often difficult to separate reality
with what happened there?
For me I was really in the game there and for me that game was reality.
And now a little more, because after watching episode four
I was really shocked
that actually not three, but six traitors are involved.
And by car one with that pact
I was very disappointed with Hannelore, Kim and Bart.
And to me those three are the greatest traitors of all,
because they have denied us allies .
So actually I wasn't so wrong with Hannelore.
To me that is and still remains a traitor.
Astrid, you really didn't think that was fair. - No, I'm not retracting my words.
And I don't want to get into discussions here either . It's 1 against 17 maybe.
No. - It... Allee.
No doubt things suck for the other allies.
To me, that was just pure self-preservation.
If I had been in that car, I might have gone along too,
but at some point that would have stopped for me.
As soon as I smell trouble, and I smelled it real quick with Walter,
I would have broken that pact.
And even if it would have cost me my head, I don't mind.
Because it cost me my head. I think you are disowning your own allies.
But everyone got into the game in a different way.
I entered the game to expose the traitors
and fight for the allies.
And some people have gone in to win.
That was not my intention. - That's not true, Astrid.
Someone needs to go to the bathroom, I think.
Loic. - I would very much like to say something to that.
You can, if you follow the rules of the game. - I follow the rules.
Sorry, sorry. - That's below the belt, Staf. Look after.
There are seven of us... - Oops.
No, I understand you completely, Astrid,
but for us, as traitors , it was of course a godsend
to keep that pact as long as possible. - Sure, that was great for you.
But if you look at it from the allies,
it is also very smart if you want to increase your chances
to be able to really expose them, to hold on as long as possible,
to be able to analyze as many patterns as possible ,
and then to say, as Kim and Bart have done...
Unfortunately, Hannelore waited a day too long.
And with Niels' cross , that pact has been broken, and yes...
Had it not been for the pact,
the traitors would have just gotten out quicker.
But that's not true, Astrid, because you couldn't convince anyone at the time.
We were with allies that I knew, at the time, I could trust.
You knew from episode two that Walter was a traitor.
You frantically defended Walter. - Astrid, I was never 100 percent sure.
And I've come to love these people so much
that I didn't want to falsely accuse them either.
I can not do that. That's not in my nature.
Anyway, Maureen, you were the first to think:
There is a pact. There's something shady there. - I've had that for a while.
And I also had a notebook.
But you always think: It could still be a coincidence. It could still be a coincidence.
Until that one day. I thought: Guys, damn it.
You are playing with my feet , this is no longer a coincidence.
And then I threw it on the table.
Self-preservation is important in the beginning,
but after that it has to transfer to a group.
But whoever had the most pacts together, more than there were wagons,
that was Bart. Bart, take a second...
Take a look, take a look. - You are kidding me.
I forgot how many pacts I already have.
Voilà, the pact, guys. - Hoppa.
It gets complicated over time. And I think of...
Ah yes, and in the car.
I'm not going to lie, but I also promise.
Promised. - I can solemnly promise.
I still have a pact with Hannelore, Jamie and Astrid .
And Luke. To Luc and to my mom.
I also swear on my mom, my brother and my love that I am an ally.
Three...
Soon I will have a pact with everyone.
Look in my eyes.
Pinky-pinky? - You have to trust me.
To Luc, to my career.
Oh, I have to... I have to write that in my notebook , I have to remember that.
But I don't remember anything.
'Pactman' Bart. How many pacts were they actually?
Yes, but the danger when you're in the car together,
and there are traitors anyway, and they say they make a pact together,
and you say you're not participating, chances are you'll be killed.
Then you think... You ca n't estimate all that at that moment.
You think: Okay, I'll join in.
That was actually my initial intention.
When I started it, I said: I 'm not going to stay in the background too much.
But I'm not going to stand on the barricade with the... either.
I let myself slide in between and meanwhile hear, listen and see,
and see who could be what in the game.
And with that you have to browse a bit between...
But that was the best tactic. - Is it true? Yes.
All the allies who have won have played it that way.
What we have learned is that we will not take a train next time.
We ask that everyone come to the castle on foot .
And no more pacts. - In the bus.
No, but well played anyway.
And Bart Kaëll's next album : Het Pact.
Single number 85.
Some allies openly and fanatically search for the traitors.
But they all pay for that tactic
sooner or later with their lives.
Are you a traitor or not? Dare you say that?
Those traitors are not to be underestimated.
When I watch one of those British detectives with my mother on a Friday night ,
we always decide after ten minutes who is the perpetrator of the murder.
My mom is right about half the time and I'm never right.
I never heard any defense in Wendy's name.
I'm getting tired of that shuffling. Issam, I'm writing you down.
I don't get it. I really don't accept that.
I'm guaranteed to play a traitor tonight ,
and he's not in this car.
I'm going to do a Hercule Poirot-esque analysis.
The famous Belgian detective from the Agatha Christie stories.
I'm going to speak tonight and if the people follow me, a traitor will go out.
I am convinced that Walter is the great traitor.
The king of the three traitors.
So write everyone... -Walter down.
...Walter up, and then you'll see what he has to say.
And if I'm wrong then
then I'm really stupid and you should never listen to me again.
I really don't understand why nobody followed me.
Bunch of losers.
Fuck you all.
You should have listened to me. - Sorry, hello.
I'm here to catch traitors.
I'd much rather be a lion. That suits my hair. Voila. Hannelore.
Walter. I operate from his shadow to observe others,
but above all to observe him.
Only I have not infiltrated as a traitor among the allies,
but as an ally among the traitors. And for me, that's Loïc and Jamie.
Never change a winning plan. Immediately attack Hannelore.
Wow, that woman played well.
Oh, I hated that, man.
I am an ally.
Ann, if I'm wrong now, I'll stop working.
Relentlessly punished.
"You were murdered."
It's a very dirty game.
Here with me are three warriors
who fought so hard that they paid for it with their lives.
But that's for now.
Yes, I really wanted to fight there.
If people really worked on that , we would be in real trouble.
Welcome back to The Traitors reunion.
Here with me are three warriors
who fought so hard that they paid for it with their lives.
And someone who has fought very hard is also Astrid.
Astrid, a few tweets have appeared about you.
I'm going to read it aloud, is that okay? - Okay.
“I demand a statue for this woman. Powerhouse. Eternal respect.'
'Astrid is my real spirit animal' or something like that.
'Honestly? We should all be a little more Astrid.'
'Put Astrid Coppens in a folk jury,
she judges 100 percent correctly about the defendant's innocence
while pointing out the culprit too.'
Comes from one Walter Damen.
“Calling loudly at your TV because no one is asking the question
why Astrid was murdered.'
What does that do to you? - Gosh, yes.
I am somewhat out of touch with public opinion.
Pretty amazing, I think, if you read that.
I did think... Well, it was nice that I got some support there.
Really. - You figured Walter out in a moment, didn't you.
Yes, I had Walter on. - When? What happened?
It became very clear to me,
because there was always one victim at the round table,
and everyone voted for it. And those victims never got a defense.
Wendy never had a defense, Issam never had a defense
nor does Ann. Everyone went full on on those three.
And it was very clear to me that those were allies.
And every time...
Allee. Walter used to... Always preached to them people like that.
So it was very clear to me that Walter was a traitor.
Because if he was an ally, he never would have.
Then he would have defended someone.
But the moment you open your mouth,
do you know that you are in great danger.
Yeah, but I didn't care either
because I really wanted to eliminate evil for me
and wanted to fight for those allies. So...
Yes, I really wanted to fight there. Yes.
And on that day you were very much troubled by yet another warrior,
who at that moment had his arrows fully aimed at Ann.
You turned out to be Sherlock Holmes, the light version, who had a plan.
Do you regret it?
Of course, yes.
It was wrong, so it would be crazy not to regret it.
And I've been trying to ask myself all along:
What would have happened if I had kept my mouth shut?
Then I probably sat in the seat earlier than now.
But unfortunately I'm not like that.
I spent all day thinking about it,
everything matched. There were some hiccups here and there.
But you lose that during the day
because you convince yourself that you can't help but be right.
And then it turns out to be wrong. And then the sky lands on your head.
Didn't you regret not listening to Astrid?
He was sitting next to you shouting: No, don't do it.
Yes, the night before she had called out: I'm sure it's Hannelore.
The credibility was not of such a nature to go along with that.
She also had no argument. She just said, I'm sure it's Walter.
What I find very strange what happened in the program...
I was in... When was it? Episode three, I think,
to watch television
and I suddenly see at breakfast that Walter is slipping.
He says when Maureen was supposed to come in: There she is.
A few have heard that. I even think Astrid was there.
I never heard that. - That one was the closest.
There's been some chatter about it. I knew nothing.
I called Niels, my buddy. From: Did you know? 'No.'
When that comes up in the group, Walter leaves that same day.
You're always on the lookout for those kinds of slips,
one happens and you don't hear it.
And then you think: There is a very strange group dynamic at play there.
We're going to talk to Walter about that later.
In any case, you really have your arrows on Ann then.
You captured that very sportingly, Ann, in the council chamber.
You were a little less happy in the car on the way home .
Oh dear. Real? - I had yet to see that one.
Ah, the traitor.
Whose is it? - Dirk.
Do we want to listen to that?
Yes, Ann, I'm sorry. I was so convinced it was correct.
That had nothing to do with you as a person, but everything to do with the facts.
The facts...
I let my rational mind work,
thinking it might march better
than the intuition that had already gone wrong.
But the ratio has also gone wrong.
So... - Not much left.
Anyway. I'll get carried away from now on.
Again sorry. I was glad that I got to know you in concrete terms. Bye.
Nor am I convinced that he is a traitor.
But if that isn't a traitor... Dirk, dummy.
You have since fled the country.
Not because of this program, I hope?
Nope. Not yet, no.
In that car, I think I really forgot that there was still a camera there.
By the way, Dirk. Have you actually stopped working?
No. I don't intend to either.
That was actually... - Advancing insight.
By the way, Dirk, I didn't know that you would be so absorbed in that game.
I honestly didn't expect that from you.
It surprised me myself. Yes.
I was n't really excited to participate , actually.
but because one of my best friends had said:
You're 65 now, it's your old age,
it must be the last time they ask you for anything.
Be silly again, jump again. I thought, OK, fine. Yes.
And yet, from day one actually: Suddenly along in that story.
From day one? - Yes, immediately.
Especially since you don't sleep well. That really plays an essential role
in creating that tension in the group.
That tension, even now. If we watch those episodes now,
I still feel that nervousness coming back,
while I actually intended to take it very distantly
and to say: Okay, we'll see where we end up.
And yet dragged along.
I once said at one point, in the car back home, that...
Well, so I've been in that heavy war reporting for about ten years.
Then you also enter such a survival mode, you sleep badly, you are constantly alert,
you don't know who to trust, so you always keep an eye on everything.
You try to go with the people you can trust
and the ones you think: Oh...
I never in my life thought I 'd ever end up in that atmosphere again,
and that happened here.
Did that feeling resurface? - Yes Yes Yes.
Kudos to the program makers for getting that atmosphere out of it.
And then when I see episode seven, I think, Wow.
In any case, we especially remember your edifying metaphors about the animal world.
Dirk. Hello.
Dirk. Ah yes, the critters. - From the bugs.
I really intend to play it very Darwinian.
That image of the dying swan,
The human fixed idea of ultimate fidelity.
I looked up something in the dictionary especially for you.
The meaning of the word 'sheep'.
Sheep? That's a grass eater that makes wool and milk.
But sheep are not really known for their great intelligence.
Predators. - Hyenas.
Hyenas are not killers. Hyenas are scavengers.
I think you're going to be a little disappointed, because the erect penis of a gorilla,
is what we call a piece of cake in the Kempen,
namely three centimeters in size.
People think that because I'm a biologist and I look at animals,
I am also very good at judging people.
You thought it was real, didn't you? - I thought so, yes.
Walter is clearly the übermacho. He also looks like this.
Yes, that's a chimpanzee. In the human context, eh.
If you do this context in nature, I think as a troop you don't survive rap.
Dirk, have you learned anything about humanity? About the mammal man?
It surprised me, because a paltry attempt is being made
to regard the pact as something other than a herd after all.
Which is not quite correct I think,
because in a way that is a slightly smaller herd.
But I was immensely surprised how quickly you get people involved in a story.
And that's where I find it strange, and that's the difference between me and you...
I am very sorry that you never made it in advance
people have tried to get into your story.
Because you both said: Soon I will expose the traitor
and soon I will expose the traitor.
And I think if there's one thing we've learned from The Traitors,
is it that you just have to get people on your bandwagon before you can achieve anything.
For I have heard you say very appetizingly:
I have a bad taste of Walter in my mouth.
And then I thought: I'm sorry you never said why.
Because who knows, I would have jumped on your bandwagon.
And you haven't said anything to anyone except Walter,
about what you were planning. And then I think: Such a shame, guys. Such a shame that not...
I even asked Master Damen for pleading advice.
Yes. And that... - To the traitor himself.
Yeah, at some point you just have to confide in a few people,
and you need it.
And that's how that pact a little, sour as it is,
worked for them and worked against us.
Yes, you cannot win a war alone
and once in a while you need a fool who walks forward with a grenade.
Here we are.
Killed all three. - There is discussion about that pact,
but in itself that pact is the best it could be.
You have to form a clique somewhere if you want to win this game.
You didn't make it to the end
but you really seasoned the program. So really chapeau.
Thank you.
For eight days , three traitors control and manipulate
day and night the lives of 15 allies.
And it all starts with a simple hand on a shoulder.
Lap. It was like, " Yeah, I've got it.
I am a traitor.
And suddenly I feel my heartbeat...
going incredibly fast.
At night they start killing.
Okay, you can sign her death warrant.
And during the day they steer the mood at the round table.
If I were a traitor, I would be very grateful.
Protected by the pact, everything initially goes according to plan.
I think you're still safe. - I do not know.
Cheers, Walter. - Yes.
But Walter is getting more and more in the spotlight.
Walter is a traitor. That is the heaviest pawn of all.
That's a really toxic situation we're in right now.
Da's echt fucked up.
The first differences of opinion arise in Team Traitors.
We have to play it smart and not get caught up.
That's an argument I don't follow, but whatever.
Today it's Walter.
Walter is the first to be exposed.
I'm glad it's behind me.
When Jamie-Lee also votes for Walter at the round table,
Loïc feels betrayed.
Then why don't you warn me? - Sorry, I didn't think that far.
I have to think a lot. I have to lie a lot.
Now I would like to try to make a difference.
I am a traitor.
You must never reveal your identity there, as a traitor at the table.
Thank you for playing along.
In the end, Jamie-Lee is the last traitor left.
But she also does not survive the ultimate vote.
I am the last traitor.
Here they are, the three traitors.
Are you still glad you were labeled a traitor, Jamie-Lee?
Yes. It was fun playing that role of lying and cheating for once.
Because like I said: In real life I would never do that.
My friends also said: I don't recognize you.
My parents also said: I'm never going to trust you again.
Oh dear. - Yes. They really said that.
Mama sometimes sent a message: And how was last night?
You're probably not going to be honest anyway. And me like this: Mom...
It's not like that anymore in real life. - That's ambiguous.
What was the division of roles among themselves, Loïc?
That's actually so funny, because it was said from the beginning:
Yes, there is a traitor king, there is such and such.
That never actually happened.
Of course, we all had our powers.
Jamie-Lee was the best infiltrator.
I think we 've seen that across all episodes.
Everyone told Jamie-Lee everything.
So she's the perfect traitor to gather information.
I sat there with that silly notebook drawing my lines
and with my little knowledge of mathematics to see how we could get to the end.
And yes, Master Damen 's pleas are of course...
If I put it that way, a dream team, actually. As you describe it now.
Yes, but a dream team...
On the other hand, put Niels with the traitors, then you also have a dream team
Put Issam with the traitors... We've also seen that he can act a suit.
Everyone could have brought their own quality to that trio of traitors.
Now, regarding your division of roles , one thing has struck me.
At the very beginning of the sequence , you say this, Walter.
Who bites the head off? - May I make a suggestion?
We have so... You know, I'm a criminal lawyer.
In the court of assizes, with a jury, we always have the tradition
that the youngest in the context of a penalty
always the first to give his advice.
To not be influenced by the elders.
And I think that's a beautiful tradition. So I would like to keep that order as well.
The youngest, then the second youngest and then the oldest.
I think that's nice too.
That sounds like a gift
but isn't that also a tactic to have the last word?
But I hadn't looked at it that way. - No, but that's a very nice question.
Because at some point everyone starts looking for something behind everything.
No, there was no tactics behind it.
I found that interesting too. - Is that the truth? How is that done?
Yes, and I always plead for that at the court of assizes,
because then we have the lists with the dates of birth.
So we know who the youngest juror is.
We are absolutely not allowed to look at that, because that is not done.
But that is indeed the case, legally.
Because someone 60 years old, I'm not 60,
but that could easily affect a 30 year old.
And that is why they say: The youngest starts, because he should not feel oppressed
by what the elders would say. I think that's very nice.
What are the reactions of your colleagues? - Good. Very good to fantastic even.
I even had colleagues who wanted to be photographed,
because their children followed the game.
I have also noticed how many children watch the game
and love that.
And it's something for me to really... and I'm going to do that a lot more,
to think very deeply about human reactions
in these types of games.
Which, in my opinion, is happening in every workplace in every society. Yes.
But didn't you sometimes have the feeling that you were sitting in a chair?
And don't there suddenly appear statements that you didn't mean, or slips of the tongue?
Let's take a look at a fragment of Walter.
Oh, my God.
Yes, she's coming now.
She or him?
That was exciting, wasn't it?
Walter said, Here she comes.
And the other is eating a banana.
Oh, see. - Oh, my God.
"Here she comes."
"Here she comes."
I find that very strange of Walter.
I find that very strange.
Say it then.
You say: Now she comes. That is knowledge only a traitor can have.
Is that a slip of the tongue, or did you think: I can get away with this?
Or: I have an explanation ready in case someone catches me on this?
You really don't stop there.
Didn't you hear it yourself? - No no.
It was actually with... It had also become a fait divers.
It has not been further elaborated.
I was watching that at home with the family, my wife and my kids,
and they said, Yes, papa. Now it's over.
But that still happened and it wasn't that unusual either.
The fatigue also sets in, you're having that breakfast.
You could still defend yourself in such a slip .
And I think I was saved a little by the pact there as well.
But that still happened.
But don't you, as fellow traitors, panic for a moment?
Jamie-Lee, do you think: What is he saying now? Oh dear?
Yes, because it was Nora who said it. And then she heard that.
Then Hannelore asked: What was said? And me: Here she comes.
So then I also had to say what Walter said.
On the other hand, we still had that pact, and then you also knew: There are still six of us.
And that has blown over super fast, which was great at the time.
If people really worked on that , we would be in real trouble.
You would think that your course would be very difficult especially at the end,
but I still think that first decision, killing someone that first night,
isn't that rotten?
You know, I still feel the dirtiest about that.
Is that real? - Really and truly. I really mean that.
But really, do you know why? That's kind of the same story as with Wendy.
Because, as she says: You have n't been able to prove or say anything yet,
or you can't develop. And that's just super annoying.
Inge, that was almost a city trip for you. Just go there and back.
I had a lot of luggage with me. - You brought a lot of luggage.
Because you also said to me: I still had so many dresses that I wanted to wear.
And you unloaded everything. - I think I was the only one out of 18
who had also unpacked all his luggage.
But really in silhouettes with the jewels.
Assuming I would stay for a very long time.
Not even a hair on my head that thought: I'll be gone tomorrow.
Dominique, you were also out very quickly.
Shame. Or maybe also a compliment.
Well, of course you can choose in such a game.
Either you try to be the underdog or you speak your mind,
and then of course you have the chance that you will be killed.
Who has held out longest as the traitor, or traitor,
are you Jamie-Lee. Let's take a look at your track.
Jamie-Lee is perhaps the most surprising choice as a traitor.
Hello. - Hello.
I am really super driven. The thing is, I can't stand losing either.
And I'm too stubborn too. That's a match made in heaven to win.
I would like to be a traitor.
I did not expect that. - That's why.
She plays her role with devotion and with two feet forward.
- I swear on my mama... - With two fingers.
To my papa, my brother, my brother 's child.
That was really bad.
You are a bad person if you swear on the people you love
and then lies.
Sorry.
I actually wanted to get emotional earlier,
so that I already got tears in my eyes, but that didn't work immediately.
We really play it so dirty.
But you can't believe how happy I am to see you.
That's bèresweet. - But really.
Flapout Jamie-Lee has long been above all suspicion.
I still look super innocent.
I hope I can keep up the roll. Pinky swear.
Voting out even a fellow traitor is part of the game.
Sorry, walter. I think you're really great.
Thanks to you, a traitor is out. - Thank you.
But when Loïc is disqualified,
the pressure becomes unbearable for Jamie-Lee as well.
How fucking is all this confusing?
Then everything exploded. Literally.
I never suspected you until yesterday at the round table,
but I'm voting for you tonight.
I'm no longer poopyand pooty.
I never wrote anything behind it,
but I did put three kisses behind it today.
Walter is called king.
This is the queen.
Was I tired when I said that?
But Jamie-Lee, lie as you can. How's your brother's baby?
Good. She's alive. She has to go to school after the Easter holidays.
But Issam, how does that come in? Because you saw those crocodile tears on television,
you think: Oh.
I... I thought that was very sincere at first.
I think it was sincere too. - Yes, I said that too.
Certainly. And I was super impressed when I saw and heard it afterwards,
how she used it. I think that's great, I think that's supernice.
How you managed... That's an item you got, like a shield.
You thought: Tears, I'm going to use that.
That's a talent, you say? - Absolute. Sure.
Jamie-Lee, you've had almost no votes against until episode eight.
What was your tactic? How did you do that? - I do not know.
Just, yes. I got along with everyone and I heard everything
and I knew: We can do that and that.
But don't you play the naive girl on purpose either
as a type to get as far as possible? - Yes, that is on purpose and not on purpose.
I'm not the smartest person, so that's not that hard to play either.
But just, yes. That mischievous, that playful, that inconspicuous...
I'm telling you, that might as well have been Bart.
It is also super inconspicuous, but also striking.
But yes, that just works.
Another important question: What would your advice be
for any new traitors? Walter.
Yes, cycle conveniently in between and stay yourself.
Try to think two steps ahead.
That is not always obvious in this program.
And if you're in it, remember one thing, That's my only advice to a traitor:
It is and remains a game for the great entertainment of the population.
And if you know that in advance, you must undergo it.
Loïc, what is your advice? - What do you think?
Choose ally. - No, read the fucking rules.
No Yes. I would...
I'd say: You can't know what a traitor...
You can't dictate what to do.
Because every...
group of 18 people will make you have to play it this way or that way.
So basically you can take everything in the scale
and as a traitor you should perhaps just follow your gut feeling, I think.
Jamie-Lee, your advice? - Gosh, some advice, yes.
Be yourself so people can't say, You act differently.
But then be yourself and lie.
Or do a Jamie-Leetje and be poop-dominatedand poop-aive,
and that actually works. Yes, advice is hard.
At that moment you have to decide for yourself how best to play that.
In any case, despite the occasional difficulties,
and the discussions, the spirited discussions,
I also think that a lot of beautiful friendships have been formed.
And that it was also a very nice time.
Have I got that right? - Yes definitely.
Absolute. - I think we can see that too.
Hello. - Walter.
Ah, here, see.
I live.
But I'm dying of hunger.
I can't think about that right now, I'm driving.
...dreams are deceptions.
Oh sorry. - The brakes work.
Look, we cleaned up. Can you film this side and show it to Staf?
Look. Is not it great. Voila, done.
No, not there.
Oh, we already lost Ward.
13, 14, 15, 16...
81, 82, 83...
Then I knew: Let it go.
Let it go. Perhaps that is what we should do now. Letting go.
May I thank you very much for participating?
Walter, would you like to have the last word?
No. - Now just shut him up.
Time to drink, thanks for participating.
Thank you.
Very nicely played.
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