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the most maddening part of all of that

though is that these policies they're

not just destroying lives they're rooted

in lies all of them our next guest was

once a climate alarmist but now says the

entire movement is quote a scam Tom

Harris is executive director of the

international climate science Coalition

he joins me now Tom good to see you

tonight now you actually say the only

way to get rid of this is to go after

the science of climate change explain

yeah exactly a lot of people will say

well you know uh Canada for example puts

out so little greenhouse gas emissions

that we shouldn't uh we shouldn't

actually try to reduce it because China

is double the United States well the

trouble is people argue that well yes we

have to set an example to the world and

we have to be good citizens and all that

sort of thing so they're using these

arguments quite often that China's

doubled the emissions of the U.S Etc but

but the real underlying thing is that

there is no climate crisis you know I

was originally an aerospace engineer and

I would give speeches and I wrote

articles I wrote one in the Ottawa

Citizen about comparative planetology

how studying the planets helps us

understand the Earth better and I use

the example of the runaway greenhouse

effect on Venus I said this could happen

on the earth if we don't reduce carbon

dioxide well a local professor of Carl

at Carleton University professor of

geology he liked my article so much he

used it in his course on climate change

and but he said to the students but that

part about Venus is wrong what happened

on Venus cannot physically happen on the

earth and he explained why now I thought

who is this climate change denier well

he invited me into his lab and he showed

me the geologic history that he and

others are finding and they found no

consistent correlation between carbon

dioxide and Earth's temperature at times

CO2 was 1300 percent of today and we

were stuck in very cold conditions so it

was all over the board so I started

wondering well maybe he's right he

exposed me to a lot of people who

actually showed me that there are

thousands of scientists and here's a

book actually that illustrates that it's

called climate change reconsidered and

this is on climate change reconsider.org

there are thousands of references here

which talk about the fact that there is

no Foundation to The Climate scare it's

all based on models that don't work but

Tom when you hear you know politicos

especially but not just the Politico

celebrities it it's it's it's settled

science

is settled is science ever settled

really I mean except over a time where

you really you know what what is H2O we

know what H2O is right we understand

that because this science settled really

quickly No in fact it's a very immature

science in fact we don't even know

whether it's going to warm or cool in

the future various people who study the

Sun for example Dr Patterson they show

that we're headed into a grand solar

minimum around 2060 and that we'll see

gradual cooling over the next few

decades so the bottom line is we have no

clue what's going to really happen so

the only sensible approach is to get

ready for it to make our infrastructure

hardened to use solid Dependable sources

of energy like coal this is a piece of

coal from Eastern Kentucky and not to

turn off our solid reliable energy

sources for flimsy wind and solar power

you know you'd laugh it's appropriate

that I'm based here in Ottawa because

right now here in Ottawa Canada they're

running a municipal election and in is

the most corrupt election I have ever

seen they are trying their best to bring

in a climate alarmist as mayor so guess

who they put in charge of the four

debates they've had climate activists

they have climate activists running the

mayor's debate Professor it doesn't yeah

it doesn't surprise me that this is

happening in Canada is happening in the

United States and we need real facts to

uh to discern what the real truth is

here Professor thank you for this

invaluable work that you're doing hey

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