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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,410 --> 00:00:19,012 Peewee coach: HARD WORK! Peewee players: HARD WORK! 2 00:00:19,012 --> 00:00:20,613 Peewee coach: DEDICATION! Peewee players: DEDICATION! 3 00:00:20,613 --> 00:00:22,381 Peewee coach: HARD WORK! Peewee players: HARD WORK! 4 00:00:22,381 --> 00:00:23,883 Peewee coach: DEDICATION! Peewee players: DEDICATION! 5 00:00:23,883 --> 00:00:26,786 I DIDN'T EVER TELL Y'ALL THIS LITTLE STORY, GUYS, 6 00:00:26,786 --> 00:00:28,320 ABOUT DAVID AND GOLIATH, 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,391 THE BIG OL' GIANT AND THE LITTLE OL' DAVID. 8 00:00:32,391 --> 00:00:34,893 THAT BIG OL' GIANT, IT WAS THE HURRICANES, 9 00:00:34,893 --> 00:00:37,796 THE ONES THAT WAS ALWAYS BEATIN' UP ON EVERYBODY 10 00:00:37,796 --> 00:00:39,865 'CAUSE THEY WERE GOOD AND BIG, RIGHT? 11 00:00:39,865 --> 00:00:42,734 BUT IT WAS THIS LITTLE OL' GUY NAMED DAVID-- THAT'S Y'ALL-- 12 00:00:42,734 --> 00:00:45,003 LITTLE OL' BITTY GUY, HAD PLENTY OF COURAGE. 13 00:00:45,003 --> 00:00:46,537 HE BELIEVED IN HIMSELF. 14 00:00:46,537 --> 00:00:49,540 AND WHAT DAVID DID, HE GOT A LITTLE OL' ROCK, 15 00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:52,710 A SMOOTH ROCK-- THIS YOUR ROCK, THAT HELMET-- 16 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:56,814 AND HE RAN INTO THAT BIG OL' GIANT AND BOOM! 17 00:00:56,814 --> 00:00:59,417 ( crowd cheering ) 18 00:01:00,785 --> 00:01:02,185 ( groans ) 19 00:01:02,185 --> 00:01:03,921 Announcer: THE FANS ARE LOVING IT! 20 00:01:03,921 --> 00:01:06,189 ♪ 21 00:01:11,062 --> 00:01:12,696 ( crowd cheering ) 22 00:01:12,696 --> 00:01:14,898 All: OH! 23 00:01:14,898 --> 00:01:16,633 Alan Schwarz: IT'S BEEN KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME 24 00:01:16,633 --> 00:01:18,902 THAT BANGING YOUR HEAD OVER AND OVER 25 00:01:18,902 --> 00:01:21,905 AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN CAN BE A BAD THING. 26 00:01:21,905 --> 00:01:24,641 Stephen Colbert: WHY ARE YOU BASHING YOUR HEAD INTO A 300-POUND LINEMAN? 27 00:01:24,641 --> 00:01:27,644 YOUR BRAIN IS SPONGE CAKE FLOATING IN A BONE BUCKET. 28 00:01:27,644 --> 00:01:30,714 STOP NOW WHILE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A DIAPER. 29 00:01:30,714 --> 00:01:31,915 ( audience laughs ) 30 00:01:31,915 --> 00:01:33,115 ( crowd cheering ) 31 00:01:33,115 --> 00:01:34,516 ( groans ) 32 00:01:35,851 --> 00:01:38,721 Chris Nowinski: MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, 33 00:01:38,721 --> 00:01:40,189 THIS FRIDAY NIGHT, OVER A MILLION KIDS 34 00:01:40,189 --> 00:01:42,191 WILL TAKE TO THE FOOTBALL FIELD... 35 00:01:42,191 --> 00:01:45,461 ONE IN EIGHT BOYS IN AMERICA. 36 00:01:45,461 --> 00:01:47,328 I'M CERTAIN THAT RADICAL MEASURES ARE NEEDED 37 00:01:47,328 --> 00:01:48,998 FOR FOOTBALL TO CONTINUE SAFELY. 38 00:01:48,998 --> 00:01:51,599 SO WITH A LIST OF CRIPPLED RETIRED PLAYERS, 39 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:53,434 A SHORTENED LIFE EXPECTANCY, 40 00:01:53,434 --> 00:01:55,603 CHRIS, HOW REAL IS THIS PROBLEM? 41 00:01:55,603 --> 00:01:58,640 Chris Nowinski: WHEN WE GOT THIS FORMER NFL PLAYER'S BRAIN, 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,575 WE SAW SOMETHING VERY STRIKING. 43 00:02:00,575 --> 00:02:03,711 THERE'S AN ALARMING REPORT LINKING FOOTBALL AND DEMENTIA. 44 00:02:03,711 --> 00:02:06,714 NOW I'M STARTING TO SEE PLAYERS WHO ARE YOUNGER THAN ME 45 00:02:06,714 --> 00:02:08,449 WHO ARE HAVING NEUROLOGICAL ISSUES, 46 00:02:08,449 --> 00:02:10,183 AND THESE PLAYERS ARE CALLING ME. 47 00:02:10,183 --> 00:02:11,886 IN FACT, MANY EX-PLAYERS HAVE PROBLEMS... 48 00:02:11,886 --> 00:02:16,057 GIRLS HAVING HIGHER RATES OF CONCUSSIONS THAN BOYS. 49 00:02:16,057 --> 00:02:18,126 Man: PEEWEE HOCKEY TODAY IS NOT 50 00:02:18,126 --> 00:02:21,862 THE PEEWEE HOCKEY WE PLAYED WHEN WE WERE KIDS. 51 00:02:21,862 --> 00:02:25,732 THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE WOULD GIVE A REASONABLE PERSON PAUSE. 52 00:02:25,732 --> 00:02:28,769 YOU'RE TALKING TO THE ATHLETES ABOUT DONATING THEIR BRAIN. 53 00:02:28,769 --> 00:02:30,771 FIVE YEARS OF HEADACHES AND DEPRESSION 54 00:02:30,771 --> 00:02:33,640 AND SHORT-TERM MEMORY PROBLEMS, COULDN'T GO BACK TO WORK... 55 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,307 ARE YOU ADVOCATING, MR. NOWINSKI, 56 00:02:35,307 --> 00:02:37,510 THAT-- THAT PEOPLE NOT PLAY FOOTBALL? 57 00:02:37,510 --> 00:02:40,179 Alan Schwarz: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. 58 00:02:40,179 --> 00:02:41,447 YES, THERE ARE SOME THINGS 59 00:02:41,447 --> 00:02:43,616 HAPPENING AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, 60 00:02:43,616 --> 00:02:47,453 BUT WHAT IF SIMILAR THINGS ARE HAPPENING FOR KIDS? 61 00:02:47,453 --> 00:02:50,056 Chris Nowinski: PERSONALLY, IF I HAD A SIX-YEAR-OLD 62 00:02:50,056 --> 00:02:51,490 OUT THERE PLAYING FOOTBALL, 63 00:02:51,490 --> 00:02:52,958 I WOULD BE FREAKED OUT, 64 00:02:52,958 --> 00:02:55,360 AND I THINK RIGHTLY SO... 65 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,228 BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING 66 00:02:57,228 --> 00:03:00,231 RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH THEIR FUTURE. 67 00:03:00,231 --> 00:03:02,233 ( whistle blows ) 68 00:03:12,209 --> 00:03:14,913 ♪ 69 00:03:14,913 --> 00:03:17,514 I DIDN'T EVER WANT TO GO TO HARVARD 70 00:03:17,514 --> 00:03:19,383 AND JUST PLAY FOOTBALL. 71 00:03:19,383 --> 00:03:21,251 YOU KNOW, I HAD A REAL PASSION FOR FOOTBALL 72 00:03:21,251 --> 00:03:23,520 AND I KNEW I HAD A COMMITMENT TO THE TEAM, 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,522 BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNEW I HAD OPPORTUNITY 74 00:03:25,522 --> 00:03:27,092 TO GET THE BEST EDUCATION IN THE WORLD. 75 00:03:27,092 --> 00:03:31,395 SO I NEVER WANTED TO LET MY ACADEMICS SUFFER. 76 00:03:31,395 --> 00:03:33,063 I WAS A DEFENSIVE TACKLE. 77 00:03:33,063 --> 00:03:35,866 YOU KNOW, I LINED UP OVER THE GUARDS... 78 00:03:35,866 --> 00:03:37,668 AND EVERY PLAY, 79 00:03:37,668 --> 00:03:40,204 A 280-POUND GUY TRYING TO KNOCK ME ON MY BUTT. 80 00:03:40,204 --> 00:03:42,405 Announcer: THERE'S A SACK ON THE QUARTERBACK, 81 00:03:42,405 --> 00:03:44,707 AND THAT IS CHRIS NOWINSKI. 82 00:03:44,707 --> 00:03:46,375 I WAS JUST COLLIDING ON EVERY PLAY, 83 00:03:46,375 --> 00:03:47,978 TRYING TO CONTROL THE GUY IN FRONT OF ME 84 00:03:47,978 --> 00:03:50,147 AND CONTROL THE GAP. 85 00:03:50,147 --> 00:03:51,948 I LOVED THE VIOLENCE OF IT. 86 00:03:51,948 --> 00:03:53,683 I THOUGHT IT WAS THE GREATEST THING IN THE WORLD 87 00:03:53,683 --> 00:03:57,252 WHEN YOU COULD PASS RUSH AND CATCH THEM UNDER THE CHIN. 88 00:03:57,252 --> 00:03:58,888 THAT'S THE CLOSEST THING YOU CAN GET TO BEING A WARRIOR 89 00:03:58,888 --> 00:04:01,423 WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO GO TO WAR. 90 00:04:01,423 --> 00:04:04,426 YOU HAVE YOUR OWN TRIBE. 91 00:04:04,426 --> 00:04:06,495 I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT AN NFL CAREER. 92 00:04:06,495 --> 00:04:10,233 SO I GRADUATED AND I WAS LIKE, 93 00:04:10,233 --> 00:04:11,633 DO I GO SIT IN A CUBICLE 94 00:04:11,633 --> 00:04:13,735 AND RENT MY BRAIN TO BIG COMPANIES? 95 00:04:13,735 --> 00:04:19,875 OR DO I GO TRY TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN? 96 00:04:19,875 --> 00:04:21,342 ( crowd cheering ) 97 00:04:21,342 --> 00:04:22,811 ♪ 98 00:04:22,811 --> 00:04:25,346 WWE ANNOUNCED THEY WERE STARTING TOUGH ENOUGH-- 99 00:04:25,346 --> 00:04:27,748 A REALITY SHOW. 100 00:04:27,748 --> 00:04:29,617 THIRTEEN KIDS LIVE IN A HOUSE, TWO OF THEM WIN CONTRACTS. 101 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:32,453 ONE PERSON'S KICKED OFF EVERY WEEK. 102 00:04:32,453 --> 00:04:33,954 SO I DECIDED TO SEND IN A TAPE. 103 00:04:33,954 --> 00:04:36,724 I'M 6'5", 265 WITH 10% BODY FAT. 104 00:04:36,724 --> 00:04:38,260 I TRAIN AT KILLER KOWALKSI'S SCHOOL 105 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:40,194 AND ACTUALLY HAD MY FIRST MATCH THE OTHER NIGHT. 106 00:04:40,194 --> 00:04:41,595 CHECK IT OUT. 107 00:04:42,897 --> 00:04:44,632 I WANTED TO MAKE IT TO THE WWE, 108 00:04:44,632 --> 00:04:47,367 AND THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE FAST TRACK. 109 00:04:47,367 --> 00:04:50,637 AND I GOT SELECTED. 110 00:04:50,637 --> 00:04:52,705 ♪ 111 00:04:52,705 --> 00:04:54,774 I AM WILLING TO TO DO WHAT IT TAKES 112 00:04:54,774 --> 00:04:57,010 TO BE ONE OF THE ELITE WRESTLERS DOWN THE LINE. 113 00:05:00,213 --> 00:05:02,048 HOLD STILL PLEASE. 114 00:05:02,048 --> 00:05:03,650 REALITY SHOWS HAVE TO HAVE GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS. 115 00:05:03,650 --> 00:05:05,384 WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE EVERYBODY 116 00:05:05,384 --> 00:05:06,886 UNDERSTAND THAT HE WENT TO HARVARD. 117 00:05:06,886 --> 00:05:09,521 SEE THE LITTLE HARVARD BOXER SHORTS THERE? 118 00:05:09,521 --> 00:05:11,891 SO THE PRODUCER STARTED ASKING THE CAST 119 00:05:11,891 --> 00:05:13,358 TO REFER TO ME AS "CHRIS HARVARD." 120 00:05:13,358 --> 00:05:14,760 THERE WE GO. 121 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,995 AND AS SOON AS THAT HAPPENED, 122 00:05:16,995 --> 00:05:18,730 I KNEW THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE 123 00:05:18,730 --> 00:05:20,532 TO BE A SYMPATHETIC CHARACTER WITH PEOPLE. ( laughs ) 124 00:05:20,532 --> 00:05:22,434 HARVARD WHAT? HARVARD SUCKS. 125 00:05:22,434 --> 00:05:24,269 AND YOU ARE YALE'S WHAT? I'M YALE'S BITCH. 126 00:05:24,269 --> 00:05:25,537 LET'S GO! LOUDER! 127 00:05:25,537 --> 00:05:28,106 YALE'S NUMBER ONE! COME ON! 128 00:05:28,106 --> 00:05:30,474 ♪ 129 00:05:30,474 --> 00:05:32,778 THE CHARACTER WAS BASED ON 130 00:05:32,778 --> 00:05:35,080 THE SILVER SPOON, RICH, SNOBBY KIDS. 131 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,747 AND IT WORKED FOR ME. 132 00:05:36,747 --> 00:05:39,383 Announcer: WEIGHING IN AT 250 POUNDS, 133 00:05:39,383 --> 00:05:41,052 HE IS THE ONLY HARVARD GRADUATE 134 00:05:41,052 --> 00:05:44,021 IN WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT HISTORY... 135 00:05:44,021 --> 00:05:45,823 CHRISTOPHER NOWINSKI! 136 00:05:45,823 --> 00:05:48,559 AND SO I WAS ON MONDAY NIGHT RAW 137 00:05:48,559 --> 00:05:51,696 18 MONTHS AFTER MY FIRST DAY IN THE RING. 138 00:05:51,696 --> 00:05:55,365 AND WHAT MOST AMUSING WAS THE SHOW WAS DONE SO WELL, 139 00:05:55,365 --> 00:05:59,970 THAT EVEN THE WRESTLERS IN WWE THOUGHT I WAS THAT GUY. 140 00:05:59,970 --> 00:06:01,838 AND SO EVERYONE HATED ME IN THE LOCKER ROOM. ( laughs ) 141 00:06:01,838 --> 00:06:04,975 YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO HAVE SOMEONE 142 00:06:04,975 --> 00:06:07,310 OF MY INTELLIGENCE IN YOUR PRESENCE. 143 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:10,379 ( crowd boos ) 144 00:06:10,379 --> 00:06:15,118 BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PEOPLE CAN'T RELATE TO A GUY LIKE ME. 145 00:06:15,118 --> 00:06:20,723 BECAUSE AFTER ALL, I AM A HARVARD GRADUATE. 146 00:06:20,723 --> 00:06:22,591 PHYSICALLY, IT WAS THE HARDEST THING I EVER DID. 147 00:06:22,591 --> 00:06:24,059 FAR HARDER THAN FOOTBALL. 148 00:06:24,059 --> 00:06:25,828 Announcer 1: NOW WHERE'S NOWINSKI GOING? 149 00:06:25,828 --> 00:06:28,130 THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T NORMALLY SEE. 150 00:06:28,130 --> 00:06:30,866 Announcer 2: AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY. 151 00:06:30,866 --> 00:06:32,601 I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WATCHING ON TELEVISION 152 00:06:32,601 --> 00:06:35,938 CAN QUITE APPRECIATE HOW DANGEROUS IT REALLY IS. 153 00:06:35,938 --> 00:06:38,539 THE MARGIN OF ERROR IS INCREDIBLY SMALL. 154 00:06:38,539 --> 00:06:44,846 SO IF ANY TIMING OR ANYONE'S POSITIONING IS OFF BY INCHES... 155 00:06:44,846 --> 00:06:46,714 SOMEONE'S GONNA GET HURT. 156 00:06:46,714 --> 00:06:52,020 Announcer: THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T STUDY FOR AT HARVARD. 157 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:53,955 AND I REMEMBER THE TAG TEAM MATCH 158 00:06:53,955 --> 00:06:56,490 IN JUNE OF 2003. 159 00:06:56,490 --> 00:07:00,361 I HIT THE GROUND AND I FORGOT WHERE WE WERE. 160 00:07:00,361 --> 00:07:02,696 I FORGOT WHAT WE WERE DOING IN THE RING. 161 00:07:02,696 --> 00:07:04,032 I FORGOT THE STORY LINE. 162 00:07:04,032 --> 00:07:09,503 I FORGOT WHAT WAS COMING NEXT. 163 00:07:09,503 --> 00:07:11,638 I JUST REMEMBER THEY KEPT PINNING ME. 164 00:07:11,638 --> 00:07:13,140 AND I COULDN'T REMEMBER IF THIS WAS THE ONE 165 00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:15,042 I WAS SUPPOSED TO STAY DOWN ON FOR THE THREE-COUNT 166 00:07:15,042 --> 00:07:18,245 OR THE ONE THAT I KICK OUT OF. 167 00:07:18,245 --> 00:07:22,015 MY HEAD WAS KILLING ME. 168 00:07:22,015 --> 00:07:26,086 AND YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WENT INTO A COLD, DARK PLACE 169 00:07:26,086 --> 00:07:27,753 INSIDE THE CIVIC CENTER. 170 00:07:27,753 --> 00:07:32,525 I REMEMBER BEING IN JUST MY SHORTS AND MY BOOTS 171 00:07:32,525 --> 00:07:35,161 LAYING ON A COLD CONCRETE GROUND, 172 00:07:35,161 --> 00:07:37,897 TRYING TO MAKE THE THROBBING GO AWAY. 173 00:07:45,071 --> 00:07:46,805 SO THEN I WENT HOME AND THEN I WAS LIKE, 174 00:07:46,805 --> 00:07:48,007 WELL, I GOTTA GO TO THE GYM EVERY DAY, 175 00:07:48,007 --> 00:07:49,474 BECAUSE I GOT TO STAY IN SHAPE. 176 00:07:49,474 --> 00:07:50,909 SO I'D GO TO THE GYM, 177 00:07:50,909 --> 00:07:54,045 AND I'D GET NAUSEOUS AFTER 10 MINUTES. 178 00:07:54,045 --> 00:07:57,048 IN MY MIND, WHEN I WOULD ONLY LAST 10 MINUTES 179 00:07:57,048 --> 00:07:59,250 AND WOULD GET SICK, I THOUGHT THAT'S NOT A SIGN 180 00:07:59,250 --> 00:08:00,517 I SHOULD NOT GO TO THE GYM, 181 00:08:00,517 --> 00:08:02,053 THAT'S A SIGN THAT MY GOAL TOMORROW 182 00:08:02,053 --> 00:08:03,922 SHOULD BE TO LAST 15 MINUTES. ( laughs ) 183 00:08:03,922 --> 00:08:05,824 AND IT WAS JUST, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW, 184 00:08:05,824 --> 00:08:08,059 THAT WAS REALLY STUPID. 185 00:08:08,059 --> 00:08:10,328 I KEPT THINKING, I'M GONNA GET BETTER TOMORROW. 186 00:08:10,328 --> 00:08:12,796 AND AFTER 12 MONTHS OF CONSTANT HEADACHES 187 00:08:12,796 --> 00:08:16,267 AND SLEEPWALKING AND MEMORY PROBLEMS, 188 00:08:16,267 --> 00:08:19,336 I JUST NEVER GOT BETTER. 189 00:08:19,336 --> 00:08:23,539 AND SO THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I EVER GOT NEAR A RING. 190 00:08:26,709 --> 00:08:28,711 A FRIEND SAID, "THERE'S A GUY 191 00:08:28,711 --> 00:08:29,980 "WHO'S CONSIDERED A CONCUSSION GURU 192 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:31,448 "THAT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM YOUR PLACE. 193 00:08:31,448 --> 00:08:33,384 MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO SEE HIM." 194 00:08:33,384 --> 00:08:35,352 Dr. Robert Cantu: WELL, MY HISTORY GOES BACK A BIT. 195 00:08:35,352 --> 00:08:40,123 IN 1986, I WROTE THE FIRST RETURN TO PLAY GUIDELINES 196 00:08:40,123 --> 00:08:43,126 FOR PEOPLE AFTER A CONCUSSION. 197 00:08:43,126 --> 00:08:45,428 Chris: I WALKED INTO DR. CANTU'S OFFICE 198 00:08:45,428 --> 00:08:47,562 THINKING I HAD NEVER HAD A CONCUSSION IN MY LIFE. 199 00:08:47,562 --> 00:08:49,165 HE SAID, "OKAY, WELL, HOW MANY TIMES 200 00:08:49,165 --> 00:08:50,766 "HAVE YOU BEEN HIT IN THE HEAD AND YOU'VE SEEN STARS 201 00:08:50,766 --> 00:08:52,634 OR YOU GOT DIZZY?" 202 00:08:52,634 --> 00:08:54,037 Dr. Cantu: THE SKY CHANGES COLOR 203 00:08:54,037 --> 00:08:56,105 OR NOT BEING ABLE TO REMEMBER THE PLAY 204 00:08:56,105 --> 00:08:57,206 OR BEING STUNNED. 205 00:08:57,206 --> 00:08:58,807 Announcer: THAT'S CHRIS NOWINSKI. 206 00:08:58,807 --> 00:09:00,510 Announcer 2: YEP, THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION. 207 00:09:00,510 --> 00:09:02,911 Chris: "OR YOU GOT DOUBLE VISION? OR YOU WERE NAUSEOUS? 208 00:09:02,911 --> 00:09:05,714 OR YOU BLACKED OUT?" 209 00:09:05,714 --> 00:09:07,382 AND I WAS LIKE, "ALL THE TIME." ( laughs ) 210 00:09:07,382 --> 00:09:09,051 "IT'S ALL THE TIME. WHY?" 211 00:09:09,051 --> 00:09:11,719 AND HE GOES, "WELL, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY CONCUSSIONS AS WELL." 212 00:09:11,719 --> 00:09:13,721 I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT 213 00:09:13,721 --> 00:09:16,124 I HAD BEEN GLADLY EXPOSING MYSELF 214 00:09:16,124 --> 00:09:19,593 TO REPETITIVE CONCUSSIONS FOR 19 YEARS 215 00:09:19,593 --> 00:09:21,729 AND HAD NEVER HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE 216 00:09:21,729 --> 00:09:23,264 ABOUT WHAT A CONCUSSION WAS. 217 00:09:27,168 --> 00:09:28,636 Dr. Douglas Smith: IT'S CALLED CONCUSSION 218 00:09:28,636 --> 00:09:30,037 OR MILD TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY, 219 00:09:30,037 --> 00:09:31,505 BUT THERE'S NOTHING MILD ABOUT IT. 220 00:09:31,505 --> 00:09:34,041 IT'S ONLY MILD COMPARED TO SEVERE BRAIN INJURY 221 00:09:34,041 --> 00:09:36,377 IF SOMEBODY'S IN A HOSPITAL BED WITH TUBES AND EVERYTHING 222 00:09:36,377 --> 00:09:37,944 FOR DAYS OR MONTHS. 223 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:39,413 ♪ 224 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:41,815 THE BRAIN IS ELASTIC, IT'S LIKE A JELLO MOLD. 225 00:09:41,815 --> 00:09:43,417 AND IT WIGGLES AROUND. 226 00:09:43,417 --> 00:09:47,887 IN A CONCUSSION, YOUR BRAIN CHANGES SHAPE VERY QUICKLY. 227 00:09:47,887 --> 00:09:51,357 THE REALLY SENSITIVE AREA OF THE BRAIN IS THE WHITE MATTER 228 00:09:51,357 --> 00:09:52,892 WHERE ALL THESE NERVE FIBERS 229 00:09:52,892 --> 00:09:55,028 TRAVEL FROM ONE PART OF YOUR BRAIN TO ANOTHER, 230 00:09:55,028 --> 00:09:57,163 ALLOWING YOUR BRAIN TO COMMUNICATE. 231 00:09:57,163 --> 00:10:01,167 IN A CONCUSSION, THESE AXONS GET QUICKLY STRETCHED. 232 00:10:01,167 --> 00:10:05,305 AND THAT CAUSES INJURY IN A VERY UNIQUE WAY. 233 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:08,240 IF I KIND OF MAKE A CYLINDER AND I PULL IT APART, 234 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,075 IT JUST GETS THINNER AND THINNER. 235 00:10:10,075 --> 00:10:14,780 THE SAME MATERIAL, IF I APPLY THIS VERY DYNAMIC STRETCH... 236 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:16,381 IT'S HOW FAST I STRETCHED IT. 237 00:10:16,381 --> 00:10:17,682 AND IT BROKE. 238 00:10:17,682 --> 00:10:19,218 AND THAT RAPID STRETCH 239 00:10:19,218 --> 00:10:21,819 DOESN'T BREAK THESE NERVE FIBERS, 240 00:10:21,819 --> 00:10:24,223 BUT IT CAN DAMAGE PARTS OF THOSE NERVE FIBERS. 241 00:10:24,223 --> 00:10:27,825 SO THEY'RE LIKE A GARDEN HOSE AND INSIDE ARE RAILROAD TRACKS 242 00:10:27,825 --> 00:10:30,361 CALLED MICRO-TUBULES THAT TRANSPORT MATERIAL 243 00:10:30,361 --> 00:10:32,564 BACK AND FORTH THROUGHOUT THE AXON. 244 00:10:32,564 --> 00:10:35,299 AND IF YOU BREAK THE RAILROAD TRACKS, 245 00:10:35,299 --> 00:10:36,968 ALL TRANSPORT STOPS. 246 00:10:36,968 --> 00:10:39,703 IT'S LIKE THE TRAIN CAR JUST FELL OFF THE TRACKS THERE 247 00:10:39,703 --> 00:10:41,838 AND EVERYTHING CAN PILE UP. 248 00:10:41,838 --> 00:10:46,577 FOR EXAMPLE, THESE VERY STICKY, GLOMMY TAO PROTEINS. 249 00:10:46,577 --> 00:10:48,246 AND OVER EVEN MORE TIME, 250 00:10:48,246 --> 00:10:51,449 THE REST BREAK BECAUSE OF A CHEMICAL DESTRUCTION 251 00:10:51,449 --> 00:10:53,884 OF THOSE MICRO-TUBULES. 252 00:10:53,884 --> 00:10:55,752 IF YOU DISCONNECT THESE AXONS, 253 00:10:55,752 --> 00:10:57,687 THEY'RE GONE FOREVER. 254 00:10:57,687 --> 00:10:59,489 YOU CAN FUNCTION WITHOUT QUITE A FEW AXONS 255 00:10:59,489 --> 00:11:04,194 AT A CERTAIN POINT, BUT YOU'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE. 256 00:11:04,194 --> 00:11:06,996 ♪ 257 00:11:11,267 --> 00:11:14,003 Chris: I BELIEVE COACH MURPHY'S ON RECORD 258 00:11:14,003 --> 00:11:16,872 SAYING I WAS THE BEST ATHLETE OF OUR CLASS. 259 00:11:16,872 --> 00:11:18,340 SOME DEBATED THAT. 260 00:11:18,340 --> 00:11:20,009 YOU DON'T DENY THAT. HE HAD SAID THAT. 261 00:11:20,009 --> 00:11:21,410 THERE'S SOME DEBATE OF THAT. 262 00:11:21,410 --> 00:11:22,611 I'M JUST SAYING. 263 00:11:22,611 --> 00:11:24,746 ISAIAH KACYVENSKI 264 00:11:24,746 --> 00:11:26,915 WAS MY TEAMMATE IN COLLEGE. 265 00:11:26,915 --> 00:11:28,384 WE WERE ROOMMATES AND SHARED A BUNK BED. 266 00:11:28,384 --> 00:11:31,786 YEAH, BASICALLY MY BEST FRIEND. 267 00:11:31,786 --> 00:11:36,925 AND HE WENT ON TO PLAY EIGHT YEARS IN THE NFL. 268 00:11:36,925 --> 00:11:38,793 CLOSING IN ON ME! 269 00:11:38,793 --> 00:11:40,795 ( both laugh ) 270 00:11:40,795 --> 00:11:43,865 AND HE WAS A GUY WHO HAD A LOT OF CONCUSSIONS. 271 00:11:43,865 --> 00:11:48,403 ( grunting ) 272 00:11:48,403 --> 00:11:50,471 Isaiah: ARE YOU GONNA BE OKAY? 273 00:11:50,471 --> 00:11:52,407 I THOUGHT THE WWE TOUGHENED YOU UP A LITTLE. 274 00:11:52,407 --> 00:11:53,807 THAT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO. 275 00:11:53,807 --> 00:11:57,645 AND WHEN I STARTED HAVING THESE PROBLEMS, 276 00:11:57,645 --> 00:11:59,079 I STARTED TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT. 277 00:11:59,079 --> 00:12:00,582 HE WAS LIKE, "I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT. 278 00:12:00,582 --> 00:12:03,283 "YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE ON SPECIAL TEAMS 279 00:12:03,283 --> 00:12:05,751 "AND BLOW UP WEDGES EVERY WEEK. THAT'S MY JOB. 280 00:12:05,751 --> 00:12:07,421 "I'M GETTING DINGED ALL THE TIME. 281 00:12:07,421 --> 00:12:10,390 I CAN'T BE THINKING ABOUT THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES." 282 00:12:10,390 --> 00:12:12,058 ( grunts ) 283 00:12:12,058 --> 00:12:13,493 GOOD JOB. THANKS. 284 00:12:13,493 --> 00:12:15,562 LET'S GO. 285 00:12:15,562 --> 00:12:17,230 ( grunts ) 286 00:12:17,230 --> 00:12:19,232 Isaiah: YEAH, SO THE FIRST CONCUSSION WAS... 287 00:12:19,232 --> 00:12:21,568 I THINK IT WAS MY SECOND OR THIRD GAME WITH THE RAMS. 288 00:12:21,568 --> 00:12:25,771 WE'RE RUNNING DOWN ON A KICK-OFF JUST ABSOLUTELY AMPED UP, 289 00:12:25,771 --> 00:12:28,074 JUST TRYING TO BE A KAMIKAZE. 290 00:12:28,074 --> 00:12:30,942 IT WAS THE ONE HIT IN MY ENTIRE LIFE 291 00:12:30,942 --> 00:12:33,745 I HAVE NEVER SEEN COMING. 292 00:12:33,745 --> 00:12:35,146 ( groans ) 293 00:12:35,146 --> 00:12:36,948 AND I REMEMBER LOOKING UP AT THE SCOREBOARD 294 00:12:36,948 --> 00:12:40,952 AND SEEING HALF OF IT JUST DISAPPEAR. 295 00:12:40,952 --> 00:12:43,623 I REMEMBER GETTING UP AND TRYING TO WALK 296 00:12:43,623 --> 00:12:46,224 AND REALIZING I WAS WALKING TO THE WRONG SIDELINE 297 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:50,095 AND FEELING AN ABSOLUTE EMBARRASSMENT. 298 00:12:50,095 --> 00:12:51,363 I REMEMBER THE ONE THING THAT SCARED ME 299 00:12:51,363 --> 00:12:55,367 WAS THEM HOLDING UP A SMELLING SALT 300 00:12:55,367 --> 00:12:57,134 AND PUTTING IT RIGHT UNDER MY NOSE. 301 00:12:57,134 --> 00:13:00,705 TOOK A HUGE WHIFF, NOTHING. 302 00:13:00,705 --> 00:13:02,106 PUT TWO OF THEM UNDER THERE. 303 00:13:02,106 --> 00:13:05,242 TOOK ANOTHER TWO MORE HUGE WHIFFS, NOTHING. 304 00:13:05,242 --> 00:13:08,512 TWENTY MINUTES GO BY, UM... 305 00:13:08,512 --> 00:13:11,781 SOME OF THE VISION'S BACK. IT WASN'T PERFECT. 306 00:13:11,781 --> 00:13:14,518 AND I REMEMBER THE DOCTORS COMING BACK TO ME AND SAYING, 307 00:13:14,518 --> 00:13:16,720 "ARE YOU READY TO GO BACK IN THE GAME?" 308 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,325 AND, UH... 309 00:13:21,325 --> 00:13:23,826 I SAID YES. 310 00:13:27,864 --> 00:13:29,399 I WENT BACK IN 311 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:32,735 AND FELT LIKE CRAP THE WHOLE WEEK AFTER THAT. 312 00:13:32,735 --> 00:13:34,537 I REMEMBER WANTING THE TEAM DOCTOR 313 00:13:34,537 --> 00:13:36,539 TO STEP IN TO SAY, "NO, HE CAN'T PLAY. 314 00:13:36,539 --> 00:13:38,775 THERE'S NO WAY HE'S PLAYING." AND IT NEVER HAPPENED. 315 00:13:38,775 --> 00:13:41,311 KICK-OFF, I PLAYED SPECIAL TEAMS. 316 00:13:41,311 --> 00:13:43,845 I ALREADY HAD A 40-YARD HEAD START, FULL SPEED. 317 00:13:43,845 --> 00:13:45,581 EVERYTHING OPENED UP. IT WAS JUST ME AND THE BALL CARRIER. 318 00:13:45,581 --> 00:13:47,983 AND YOU HAVE THIS SPLIT-SECOND DECISION. 319 00:13:47,983 --> 00:13:49,518 WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? 320 00:13:55,157 --> 00:13:57,025 I REMEMBER COMING TO. 321 00:13:57,025 --> 00:13:59,428 THE WHOLE SIDE OF MY BODY, MY FACE, 322 00:13:59,428 --> 00:14:01,296 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MY ARMS AND MY LEGS 323 00:14:01,296 --> 00:14:04,499 WERE LIKE JUST ABSOLUTELY NUMB. 324 00:14:04,499 --> 00:14:06,033 A LINEBACKER IN THE NFL 325 00:14:06,033 --> 00:14:11,673 IS LIKE A SODA CAN YOU DRINK UP AND JUST CHUCK. 326 00:14:11,673 --> 00:14:14,208 ♪ 327 00:14:14,208 --> 00:14:17,011 Chris: WHEN YOU WOULD READ THE BIG STUDIES 328 00:14:17,011 --> 00:14:19,013 ON HOW MANY CONCUSSIONS WERE HAPPENING 329 00:14:19,013 --> 00:14:21,182 IN A SPORT LIKE FOOTBALL, 330 00:14:21,182 --> 00:14:22,650 THEY WOULD SAMPLE 20,000 ATHLETES 331 00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:24,318 AND THEY WOULD SAY, "WELL, 5% HAD CONCUSSIONS," 332 00:14:24,318 --> 00:14:26,487 AND THAT WAS ASSUMED TO BE FACTUAL. 333 00:14:26,487 --> 00:14:28,288 BUT FOOTBALL PLAYERS 334 00:14:28,288 --> 00:14:31,324 DON'T SPEAK UP WHEN THEY HAVE THESE SYMPTOMS. 335 00:14:31,324 --> 00:14:32,693 SO I KNEW THAT NUMBER WAS WRONG, 336 00:14:32,693 --> 00:14:35,161 BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW WRONG IT WAS. 337 00:14:35,161 --> 00:14:38,031 SO I DUG AROUND AND FOUND SIX OTHER STUDIES 338 00:14:38,031 --> 00:14:39,499 WHO'D ACTUALLY SURVEYED THE PLAYERS DIRECTLY 339 00:14:39,499 --> 00:14:41,601 AND TAKEN THE WORD "CONCUSSION" OUT OF THE QUESTION 340 00:14:41,601 --> 00:14:44,804 AND FOUND THAT IT WASN'T 5% OF PEOPLE GETTING CONCUSSIONS, 341 00:14:44,804 --> 00:14:47,340 IT WAS 50%. 342 00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:49,342 AND SO YOU DID THE QUICK MATH ON THAT, 343 00:14:49,342 --> 00:14:51,343 YOU KNOW, 50% OF FOOTBALL PLAYERS 344 00:14:51,343 --> 00:14:53,479 HAVE SYMPTOMS AFTER A HIT TO THE HEAD, 345 00:14:53,479 --> 00:14:55,581 AND EACH ONE IS SUPPOSED TO SIT OUT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, 346 00:14:55,581 --> 00:14:58,917 YOU REALIZE THAT FOOTBALL IS VIRTUALLY UNSUSTAINABLE. 347 00:14:58,917 --> 00:15:00,452 BECAUSE IF YOU DIAGNOSE EVERY CONCUSSION, 348 00:15:00,452 --> 00:15:01,920 YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE SIDELINE, 349 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,322 YOU CAN BARELY PLAY THE GAME. 350 00:15:03,322 --> 00:15:04,922 AND THAT'S WHAT HELPED ME REALIZE THAT, 351 00:15:04,922 --> 00:15:07,326 WELL, EITHER WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE TERMS OF THE ARGUMENT 352 00:15:07,326 --> 00:15:08,926 OR WE HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE GAME, 353 00:15:08,926 --> 00:15:10,362 OR WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION. 354 00:15:10,362 --> 00:15:14,098 IN 2004, I STARTED WRITING FURIOUSLY, 355 00:15:14,098 --> 00:15:18,436 COMPILING THE DATA WITH MY STORY AND OTHER STORIES 356 00:15:18,436 --> 00:15:19,637 INTO HEAD GAMES, 357 00:15:19,637 --> 00:15:21,639 THE GOAL BEING IF YOU READ THIS BOOK, 358 00:15:21,639 --> 00:15:24,542 YOU WON'T THROW AWAY YOUR CAREER LIKE I DID. 359 00:15:24,542 --> 00:15:27,545 THEN I REALIZED I HAD NO IDEA HOW YOU GET A BOOK PUBLISHED. 360 00:15:28,945 --> 00:15:31,982 I SAW THE MANUSCRIPT, I STILL REMEMBER MY REACTION. 361 00:15:31,982 --> 00:15:34,519 IT WASN'T THE MAIN NARRATIVE, 362 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:37,254 IT WAS THE FOOTNOTES THAT BLEW ME AWAY. 363 00:15:37,254 --> 00:15:41,124 I MEAN, THIS GUY HAD REALLY DONE HIS WORK. 364 00:15:41,124 --> 00:15:46,596 Chris: SO THE BOOK CAME OUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2006. 365 00:15:46,596 --> 00:15:48,398 IN IT, I WROTE A CHAPTER 366 00:15:48,398 --> 00:15:50,667 ABOUT THE BRAINS OF TWO FORMER NFL PLAYERS, 367 00:15:50,667 --> 00:15:54,270 TERRY LONG AND MIKE WEBSTER, WHO DIED YOUNG, 368 00:15:54,270 --> 00:15:56,406 AND THEY WERE DIAGNOSED WITH 369 00:15:56,406 --> 00:15:59,074 CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY. 370 00:15:59,074 --> 00:16:01,711 Mike Webster: THE GAME OF FOOTBALL IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE 371 00:16:01,711 --> 00:16:04,180 IS NOT AT ALL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE PERCEIVE IT. 372 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:06,182 IT'S NOT A GAME. 373 00:16:06,182 --> 00:16:08,417 I THINK IT'S A WAR, MYSELF. ( laughs ) 374 00:16:08,417 --> 00:16:13,422 Alan Schwarz: WHEN MIKE WEBSTER DIED IN 2002, 375 00:16:13,422 --> 00:16:18,527 HIS BODY ENDED UP ON THE TABLE OF A CORONER 376 00:16:18,527 --> 00:16:22,297 WHOSE NAME WAS BENNET OMALU, A NEURO-PATHOLOGIST. 377 00:16:22,297 --> 00:16:26,100 AND HE SAID, "I WONDER IF THIS FOOTBALL PLAYER-- 378 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,570 "BECAUSE THESE GUYS GET THEIR HEADS BANGED AROUND A LOT-- 379 00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:31,306 "I WONDER IF HE HAS ANY OF THE BRAIN DAMAGE 380 00:16:31,306 --> 00:16:33,308 ASSOCIATED WITH BOXERS." 381 00:16:33,308 --> 00:16:37,445 SO JUST ON A HUNCH, HE DID THE STAINS OF THE BRAIN TISSUE 382 00:16:37,445 --> 00:16:40,448 THAT TO THAT POINT HAD NOT BEEN DONE ON ANY FOOTBALL PLAYER. 383 00:16:40,448 --> 00:16:43,183 AND LOW AND BEHOLD, IT CAME OUT POSITIVE. 384 00:16:43,183 --> 00:16:48,155 WOW. IT'S NOT JUST BOXERS WHO GET THIS. 385 00:16:48,155 --> 00:16:51,960 ( crowd cheering ) 386 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,028 Dr. Ann McKee: IN THE 1920s, LAY PEOPLE AND SPORTS WRITERS 387 00:16:56,028 --> 00:16:58,465 CALLED BOXERS WHO HAD BEEN IN THE RING 388 00:16:58,465 --> 00:17:02,101 "SLUG NUTTY" AND "PUNCH DRUNK," "GOOFY." 389 00:17:02,101 --> 00:17:04,972 AND THEY ALSO CALLED IT "DEMENTIA PUGILISTICA." 390 00:17:04,972 --> 00:17:06,740 THAT GAVE IT A MORE MEDICAL TERM. 391 00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:10,243 SOMEHOW ALONG THE LINES, PEOPLE STARTED TALKING ABOUT 392 00:17:10,243 --> 00:17:11,644 CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY 393 00:17:11,644 --> 00:17:13,779 AND THAT WAS THE NAME THAT SORT OF STUCK. 394 00:17:13,779 --> 00:17:15,381 WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS DISEASE, 395 00:17:15,381 --> 00:17:17,383 I THINK ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING THINGS 396 00:17:17,383 --> 00:17:22,455 IS HOW EXTRAORDINARILY DENSE THE PATHOLOGY IS. 397 00:17:22,455 --> 00:17:24,222 IT'S LIKE PATHOLOGY ON STEROIDS. 398 00:17:24,222 --> 00:17:25,558 IN A NORMAL BRAIN, THERE WOULD BE 399 00:17:25,558 --> 00:17:27,492 ABSOLUTELY NO BROWN VISIBLE WHATSOEVER, 400 00:17:27,492 --> 00:17:29,628 EVERYTHING WOULD LOOK THIS LIGHT, LIGHT CREAM COLOR. 401 00:17:29,628 --> 00:17:32,832 BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S TREMENDOUS ABNORMALITIES 402 00:17:32,832 --> 00:17:34,399 THROUGHOUT THE GREY MATTER. 403 00:17:34,399 --> 00:17:37,369 SOME PLACES, IT'S EXTREMELY DENSE. 404 00:17:37,369 --> 00:17:38,837 AND THEN LOOK AT IT UNDER THE MICROSCOPE, 405 00:17:38,837 --> 00:17:40,505 AND I HAVE IT HERE, 406 00:17:40,505 --> 00:17:43,240 YOU CAN SEE A TREMENDOUS LOSS OF NERVE CELLS. 407 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,644 THE REMAINING CELLS ARE SCARRED 408 00:17:45,644 --> 00:17:49,781 AND FILLED WITH THIS ABNORMAL TAO PROTEIN, 409 00:17:49,781 --> 00:17:52,984 WHICH DISTURBS THE CELL AND CAUSES IT TO MALFUNCTION. 410 00:17:52,984 --> 00:17:55,152 AND EVENTUALLY IT DIES. 411 00:17:55,152 --> 00:17:58,689 SO WE'LL CUT INTO THE BRAIN. 412 00:18:02,826 --> 00:18:05,663 REALLY SMALL HIPPOCAMPUS NOW. 413 00:18:05,663 --> 00:18:07,431 THAT'S THE MEMORY COMPONENT. 414 00:18:07,431 --> 00:18:09,800 HE'S GOT SHRINKAGE OF THAT PART OF THE BRAIN. 415 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,670 THIS DISEASE HAS THESE VERY DIFFICULT SYMPTOMS. 416 00:18:12,670 --> 00:18:15,138 IT DESTROYS SORT OF YOUR PERSONALITY 417 00:18:15,138 --> 00:18:17,140 IN A WAY THAT OBSERVERS THINK, 418 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:19,075 "ARE THEY JUST HAVING A MID-LIFE CRISIS? 419 00:18:19,075 --> 00:18:21,945 ARE THEY HAVING SOME SORT OF PSYCHOLOGICAL OR ADJUSTMENT REACTION?" 420 00:18:21,945 --> 00:18:24,280 BUT ACTUALLY IT'S STRUCTURAL BRAIN DISEASE. 421 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,682 Alan Schwarz: BY THIS TIME, 422 00:18:25,682 --> 00:18:27,417 IT'S CAUSING SOME RIPPLES IN THE NFL, 423 00:18:27,417 --> 00:18:30,419 BUT NOTHING IN THE POPULAR PRESS, 424 00:18:30,419 --> 00:18:32,421 AND NOTHING CERTAINLY IN THE POPULAR CONSCIOUSNESS. 425 00:18:32,421 --> 00:18:34,289 Chris: YOU LOOK FOR A DISEASE 426 00:18:34,289 --> 00:18:36,458 THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS A ONE-IN-A-MILLION SHOT 427 00:18:36,458 --> 00:18:39,929 AND THE FIRST TWO FOOTBALL PLAYERS TESTED HAVE IT, 428 00:18:39,929 --> 00:18:41,396 YOU'D THINK PEOPLE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT. 429 00:18:41,396 --> 00:18:42,998 BUT IT WASN'T NEWS ANYWHERE. 430 00:18:42,998 --> 00:18:45,667 Alan Schwarz: TOWARD CHRISTMAS OF 2006, THE PHONE RINGS. 431 00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:47,536 IT'S CHRIS NOWINSKI SAYING, 432 00:18:47,536 --> 00:18:50,539 "I HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE PRETTY BIG. 433 00:18:50,539 --> 00:18:52,808 "AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WITH IT. 434 00:18:52,808 --> 00:18:55,744 AND YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO EVER TOOK ME SERIOUSLY." 435 00:18:55,744 --> 00:19:00,481 AND IT WAS THE ANDRE WATERS SUICIDE. 436 00:19:00,481 --> 00:19:03,217 Chris: ANDRE WATERS COMMITTED SUICIDE 437 00:19:03,217 --> 00:19:04,885 NOVEMBER 20th, 2006. 438 00:19:04,885 --> 00:19:07,221 AND HE WAS A COACH AND HE WAS WORKING 439 00:19:07,221 --> 00:19:10,992 AND IT WASN'T MONEY PROBLEMS, AND IT SEEMED KIND OF BIZARRE. 440 00:19:10,992 --> 00:19:13,060 ANDRE WATERS WAS KNOWN AS ONE OF THE HARDEST HITTING 441 00:19:13,060 --> 00:19:14,795 DEFENSIVE BACKS OF HIS GENERATION, 442 00:19:14,795 --> 00:19:17,765 PLAYING IN THE MID-TO-LATE-80s THROUGH THE EARLY-90s. 443 00:19:17,765 --> 00:19:21,102 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHRIS NOWINSKI DID 444 00:19:21,102 --> 00:19:24,237 WHEN HE LEARNED OF THE SUICIDE 445 00:19:24,237 --> 00:19:26,373 WAS TO SAY, "GEE, I WONDER IF HE HAD 446 00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:29,676 A SIGNIFICANT HISTORY OF HEAD TRAUMA." 447 00:19:29,676 --> 00:19:31,143 YOU KNOW WHEN YOU MADE A PERFECT HIT, 448 00:19:31,143 --> 00:19:32,412 WHEN YOU HEAR THE GUY GRUNT, 449 00:19:32,412 --> 00:19:33,980 ESPECIALLY RUNNING BACK, 450 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:36,883 AND THEN HE COME RUNNIN' THROUGH THE HOLE AGAIN 451 00:19:36,883 --> 00:19:38,384 AND HE SEES YOU. 452 00:19:38,384 --> 00:19:39,953 I LIKE TO HIT THINGS. 453 00:19:39,953 --> 00:19:42,621 I CAN GET ALL MY FRUSTRATION OUT ON THE FIELD. 454 00:19:42,621 --> 00:19:45,091 Chris: AND I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND 455 00:19:45,091 --> 00:19:46,759 THAT HE WAS QUOTED IN THE NEWSPAPER 456 00:19:46,759 --> 00:19:49,028 SAYING HE STOPPED COUNTING HIS CONCUSSIONS AT 15 457 00:19:49,028 --> 00:19:51,697 AND HE WOULD JUST GRAB SMELLING SALTS AND KEEP PLAYING. 458 00:19:53,231 --> 00:19:55,233 Alan Schwarz: WHEN CHRIS HAD THE HUNCH 459 00:19:55,233 --> 00:19:58,503 THAT ANDRE WATERS MIGHT HAVE HAD CTE, 460 00:19:58,503 --> 00:20:00,405 HE CALLED UP BENNETT OMALU AND SAID, 461 00:20:00,405 --> 00:20:03,741 "IF I CAN GET SOME BRAIN TISSUE FOR YOU TO EXAMINE, 462 00:20:03,741 --> 00:20:05,576 WOULD YOU DO IT?" 463 00:20:07,378 --> 00:20:10,248 THE WAY I ORIGINALLY CRAFTED THAT STORY, 464 00:20:10,248 --> 00:20:12,917 I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE CHRIS 465 00:20:12,917 --> 00:20:16,921 HAVING TO CONVINCE THE FAMILY TO DONATE THE BRAIN. 466 00:20:16,921 --> 00:20:19,456 AND THE TIMES EDITORS, TO THEIR CREDIT, SAID, 467 00:20:19,456 --> 00:20:22,392 "HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S NEWS HERE." 468 00:20:22,392 --> 00:20:24,461 Jason Stallman: A FORMER NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE PLAYER 469 00:20:24,461 --> 00:20:26,596 KILLS HIMSELF WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND 470 00:20:26,596 --> 00:20:27,865 AND A RESEARCHER LINKS 471 00:20:27,865 --> 00:20:29,733 THE DAMAGE IN HIS BRAIN TO FOOTBALL. 472 00:20:29,733 --> 00:20:31,601 THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID. 473 00:20:31,601 --> 00:20:35,272 AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS WHAT ELEVATED IT TO THE FRONT PAGE. 474 00:20:36,606 --> 00:20:38,075 Alan Schwarz: THE ANDRE WATERS STORY 475 00:20:38,075 --> 00:20:39,743 RAN DURING THE PLAYOFFS. 476 00:20:39,743 --> 00:20:44,613 I DON'T REMEMBER IT... MATTERING THAT MUCH, 477 00:20:44,613 --> 00:20:46,615 'CAUSE THERE WERE GAMES TO BE PLAYED. 478 00:20:46,615 --> 00:20:49,218 ♪ 479 00:20:59,962 --> 00:21:03,298 Chris: THE REACTION TO ALAN'S ARTICLE WAS DENIAL. 480 00:21:03,298 --> 00:21:05,134 I MEAN, IT WAS SHOCKINGLY NEGATIVE. 481 00:21:05,134 --> 00:21:08,336 I WASN'T TOO SURPRISED BECAUSE IN HEAD GAMES, 482 00:21:08,336 --> 00:21:10,873 I HAD DISSECTED HOW THE NFL 483 00:21:10,873 --> 00:21:14,375 HAD KEPT THIS ISSUE HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW. 484 00:21:14,375 --> 00:21:16,711 THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF TIME 485 00:21:16,711 --> 00:21:18,446 TRYING TO CONVINCE THE WORLD THAT CONCUSSIONS 486 00:21:18,446 --> 00:21:20,215 DON'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. 487 00:21:20,215 --> 00:21:24,219 Alan Schwarz: WHAT FOOTBALL BEGAN TO APPRECIATE 488 00:21:24,219 --> 00:21:26,154 IN THE LATE-70s AND 80s 489 00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:30,557 WAS HOW GUYS LIKE ROGER STAUHBACH, STEVE YOUNG, 490 00:21:30,557 --> 00:21:32,426 TROY AIKMAN APPEARED TO BE HAVING 491 00:21:32,426 --> 00:21:34,229 MORE AND MORE PROBLEMS WITH CONCUSSIONS. 492 00:21:34,229 --> 00:21:35,662 THEY WERE MISSING TIME. 493 00:21:35,662 --> 00:21:39,466 THESE VERY VALUABLE COMMODITIES WERE NOT PLAYING. 494 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,468 "GEE, I WONDER IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT 495 00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:43,570 HOW TO KEEP THEM ON THE FIELD." 496 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:46,840 SO IN 1994, PAUL TAGLIABUE FORMED A COMMITTEE 497 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,543 CALLED THE MILD TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY COMMITTEE. 498 00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:53,546 AND IT ALLOWED THE LEAGUE TO SAY, 499 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:55,815 "LOOK, WE HAVE THIS COMMITTEE OF DOCTORS, 500 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,085 THEY ARE INDEPENDENT," THEY CLAIMED, 501 00:21:58,085 --> 00:22:00,987 ALTHOUGH MANY OF THEM WERE ON THE PAYROLL OF NFL TEAMS. 502 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:03,556 NONETHELESS, IT'S BEING CHAIRED 503 00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:05,792 BY THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR OF THE LEAGUE. 504 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:08,293 NONETHELESS, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT. 505 00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:11,831 THEY BEGAN TO ASSESS WHAT THE EFFECTS 506 00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:15,433 OF CONCUSSION WERE IN NFL PLAYERS. 507 00:22:15,433 --> 00:22:17,869 AND SO BY THE FIFTH, SIXTH, SEVENTH 508 00:22:17,869 --> 00:22:21,240 OF WHAT BECAME A 13-PAPER SERIES, 509 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,774 THEY BEGAN MAKING STATEMENTS 510 00:22:22,774 --> 00:22:27,212 ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING WAS HUNKY DORY IN THE NFL, 511 00:22:27,212 --> 00:22:29,281 HOW THESE PLAYERS WERE NOT SUFFERING FROM ANY PROBLEMS. 512 00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:31,550 THEIR DATA SHOWED THAT THERE ARE NO COGNITIVE EFFECTS 513 00:22:31,550 --> 00:22:33,785 IN THESE PLAYERS. 514 00:22:33,785 --> 00:22:36,387 THE PROBLEM WAS IF YOU LOOKED VERY CAREFULLY 515 00:22:36,387 --> 00:22:37,989 AT THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY WERE USING, 516 00:22:37,989 --> 00:22:40,858 THEY WERE MAKING STATEMENTS THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE. 517 00:22:40,858 --> 00:22:42,860 IF THE OLDEST GUY THAT YOU STUDY IS 35, 518 00:22:42,860 --> 00:22:44,595 YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY CONCLUDE 519 00:22:44,595 --> 00:22:46,797 THAT CONCUSSIONS DON'T HAVE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES. 520 00:22:46,797 --> 00:22:48,666 IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY DID HAVE CONCUSSION PROBLEMS 521 00:22:48,666 --> 00:22:49,934 AND HAD TO RETIRE, 522 00:22:49,934 --> 00:22:51,535 THEY WOULD DROP OUT OF THE STUDY. 523 00:22:51,535 --> 00:22:53,103 SO THEY WOULDN'T BE FOLLOWED UP ON. 524 00:22:53,103 --> 00:22:55,840 THEY ALSO HAD SOME MATHEMATICAL ERRORS 525 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,708 THAT WERE PRETTY EASY-- I LIKE TO THINK. 526 00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:01,444 I MEAN, A SPORTS WRITER FOUND THEM, OKAY? 527 00:23:01,444 --> 00:23:03,847 WELL, I THINK THERE WAS MORE THAN BAD SCIENCE. 528 00:23:03,847 --> 00:23:07,884 I HONESTLY THINK THERE WAS A POINT OF VIEW 529 00:23:07,884 --> 00:23:12,121 OF TRYING TO BE PROTECTIVE OF THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. 530 00:23:12,121 --> 00:23:16,726 IN MOST OTHER SPORTS, THE CHANCE OF INJURY IS INCIDENTAL. 531 00:23:16,726 --> 00:23:19,461 IN FOOTBALL, THE CHANCE OF INJURY 532 00:23:19,461 --> 00:23:25,001 AND LONG-TERM SERIOUS EFFECTS IS FUNDAMENTAL. 533 00:23:25,001 --> 00:23:27,469 AND NO HONEST PERSON CAN WATCH THIS SPORT 534 00:23:27,469 --> 00:23:29,004 AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 535 00:23:29,004 --> 00:23:30,606 Gene Atkins: IT'S JUST LIKE A BOXER. 536 00:23:30,606 --> 00:23:32,007 IF YOU BOX SO MANY YEARS 537 00:23:32,007 --> 00:23:33,976 AND KEEP GETTING HIT IN THE HEAD, 538 00:23:33,976 --> 00:23:36,979 SOONER OR LATER SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE BRAIN. 539 00:23:36,979 --> 00:23:38,780 ♪ 540 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:41,316 Chris: GENE ATKINS IS A FORMER NFL PLAYER 541 00:23:41,316 --> 00:23:42,851 WHO PLAYED STRONG SAFETY 542 00:23:42,851 --> 00:23:45,720 FOR THE NEW ORLEANS SAINTS AND MIAMI DOLPHINS. 543 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,123 GENE WAS KNOWN AS A BIG HITTER. 544 00:23:48,123 --> 00:23:50,591 HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH AT LEAST A COUPLE CONCUSSIONS, 545 00:23:50,591 --> 00:23:53,127 ALTHOUGH HE REMEMBERS MANY MORE. 546 00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:57,265 HE TALKED ABOUT TIMES WHERE HE WOULD SEE DOUBLE 547 00:23:57,265 --> 00:23:59,532 AND GRAB A GUYS JERSEY TO FIND HIS WAY TO THE HUDDLE 548 00:23:59,532 --> 00:24:01,135 AND WAIT FOR IT TO CLEAR UP. 549 00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:03,470 I MEAN, HE WAS TOUGH, HE DIDN'T WANNA EVER COME OUT. 550 00:24:06,007 --> 00:24:09,010 WHEN THE ANDRE WATERS STORY WENT PUBLIC, 551 00:24:09,010 --> 00:24:12,280 THE EX-WIFE OF GENE ATKINS SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING, 552 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,615 "GENE IS EVERYTHING THAT I READ ABOUT ANDRE WATERS-- 553 00:24:15,615 --> 00:24:18,518 THE MEMORY PROBLEMS, THE IMPULSE CONTROL ISSUES." 554 00:24:18,518 --> 00:24:20,519 HE WAS IN A VERY DARK PLACE. 555 00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:21,922 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS 556 00:24:21,922 --> 00:24:24,657 HE SURVIVED MULTIPLE SUICIDE ATTEMPTS. 557 00:24:24,657 --> 00:24:30,729 I'VE BEEN THERE. I UNDERSTAND HOW IT FEELS TO WANNA TAKE YOUR LIFE. 558 00:24:30,729 --> 00:24:34,667 AND IT'S A SCARY FEELING BECAUSE 559 00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:38,405 EVERY DAY I WAKE UP IS A CHALLENGE FOR ME. 560 00:24:38,405 --> 00:24:39,939 I'M JUST A MESS RIGHT NOW. 561 00:24:39,939 --> 00:24:42,074 Chris: WHEN I SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVENE, 562 00:24:42,074 --> 00:24:44,209 I WAS ABLE TO RAISE SOME MONEY TO FLY GENE OUT, 563 00:24:44,209 --> 00:24:47,413 ALONG WITH HIS CURRENT WIFE, TO SEE DR. CANTU, 564 00:24:47,413 --> 00:24:50,548 WHO SPENT HOURS EVALUATING HIM. 565 00:24:50,548 --> 00:24:53,952 Dr. Cantu: 9, 7, 8, 4, 3, 2... 566 00:24:53,952 --> 00:24:55,820 THOSE DIGITS, TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE. 567 00:24:55,820 --> 00:24:59,557 REPEAT THEM. 9, 7, 8, 4, 3, 2. 568 00:24:59,557 --> 00:25:01,693 9, 7, 8... 569 00:25:05,263 --> 00:25:07,799 4, 3, 2. 4, 3, 2. 570 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,935 GENE, REPEAT THE MONTHS OF THE YEAR BETWEEN JANUARY-- 571 00:25:10,935 --> 00:25:14,238 LET'S FIND SOMETHING ELSE. AND JUNE. 572 00:25:14,238 --> 00:25:15,806 PARDON ME? 573 00:25:15,806 --> 00:25:17,874 JUST PICK SOMETHING ELSE TO DO 'CAUSE I CAN'T DO THAT. 574 00:25:17,874 --> 00:25:19,243 TRY. 575 00:25:19,243 --> 00:25:24,781 JANUARY... MAY... APRIL... 576 00:25:24,781 --> 00:25:27,516 Chris: I WOULD SAY GENE ATKINS IS CERTAINLY NOT ALONE. 577 00:25:27,516 --> 00:25:29,052 CAN YOU DO IT SEQUENTIALLY? 578 00:25:29,052 --> 00:25:31,587 LIKE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL... 579 00:25:31,587 --> 00:25:32,889 Chris: THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE 580 00:25:32,889 --> 00:25:34,191 THAT ARE IN THE PRIME OF THEIR LIVES, 581 00:25:34,191 --> 00:25:36,259 BUT THEIR BRAIN HAS NOT STAYED WITH THEM. 582 00:25:36,259 --> 00:25:37,526 JUNE... 583 00:25:37,526 --> 00:25:39,262 WHAT'S BEFORE JUNE? 584 00:25:39,262 --> 00:25:41,264 JULY? 585 00:25:41,264 --> 00:25:42,798 ♪ 586 00:25:42,798 --> 00:25:44,800 HERE'S ANOTHER DATA POINT. 587 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,069 LINEMEN SUSTAIN 60% OF THEIR IMPACTS IN PRACTICE, 588 00:25:47,069 --> 00:25:49,672 54% IN TIGHT ENDS, 52 RECEIVERS, 589 00:25:49,672 --> 00:25:51,639 31% IN QUARTERBACKS. 590 00:25:51,639 --> 00:25:53,309 IMPACT ACCELERATIONS TO HEAD ALSO VARY BY... 591 00:25:53,309 --> 00:25:55,643 Chris: IN RESPONSE TO THE HUGE ACTIVITY 592 00:25:55,643 --> 00:25:57,046 ON THIS ISSUE IN 2007, 593 00:25:57,046 --> 00:26:00,081 THE SPORTS LEGACY INSTITUTE WAS FOUNDED. 594 00:26:00,081 --> 00:26:03,685 DR. CANTU AND I REALIZED THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE WORK 595 00:26:03,685 --> 00:26:06,554 ON EDUCATION AND POLICY DRIVEN OFF OF THE RESEARCH 596 00:26:06,554 --> 00:26:08,356 TO KEEP THESE ATHLETES SAFER. 597 00:26:08,356 --> 00:26:10,492 I MEAN, SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE IDEA, TOO, IS THAT MAYBE 598 00:26:10,492 --> 00:26:12,827 DRIVE TO PUT THE STAKE IN THE GROUND TO GET PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT 599 00:26:12,827 --> 00:26:14,829 AND THEN SEE WHAT COMES OF IT, YEAH. 600 00:26:14,829 --> 00:26:16,563 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO PUT TOGETHER 601 00:26:16,563 --> 00:26:17,831 A COMMITTEE OF COACHES FOR... 602 00:26:17,831 --> 00:26:20,035 Chris: WHEN SPORTS LEGACY INSTITUTE 603 00:26:20,035 --> 00:26:22,636 AND BOSTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE PARTNERED, 604 00:26:22,636 --> 00:26:24,038 WE CREATED THE CENTER FOR THE STUDY 605 00:26:24,038 --> 00:26:26,408 OF TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY. 606 00:26:26,408 --> 00:26:28,642 AND NOW DR. STERN HEADS THE CLINICAL RESEARCH, 607 00:26:28,642 --> 00:26:32,578 DR. McKEE HEADS THE PATHOLOGICAL RESEARCH AND BASIC SCIENCES, 608 00:26:32,578 --> 00:26:34,848 DR. CANTU IS OUR CONCUSSION EXPERT, 609 00:26:34,848 --> 00:26:36,950 AND THEN MY ROLE IS FACILITATE THE RESEARCH. 610 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:38,818 Woman on phone: I'M SORRY, WHO IS THIS? 611 00:26:38,818 --> 00:26:41,954 THIS IS CHRIS NOWINSKI FROM BOSTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE. 612 00:26:41,954 --> 00:26:44,090 Chris: AND WHEN AN ATHLETE PASSES AWAY... 613 00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,692 I READ ABOUT HIS PASSING TODAY. AND I'M REALLY SORRY TO BE CALLING. 614 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:49,463 I KNOW I'M THE LAST PERSON IN THE WORLD YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM... 615 00:26:49,463 --> 00:26:55,301 Chris: IT'S MY JOB TO CALL THE FAMILY TO SEE IF THE BRAIN'S AVAILABLE. 616 00:26:55,301 --> 00:26:57,403 Dr. Robert Stern: WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO DURING THIS CALL 617 00:26:57,403 --> 00:27:02,041 IS TO GO OVER THE RESULTS OF DR. McKEE'S EXAMINATION 618 00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:04,009 OF YOUR HUSBAND'S BRAIN, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO 619 00:27:04,009 --> 00:27:07,846 IS START OFF BY GIVING A SUMMARY BECAUSE 620 00:27:07,846 --> 00:27:09,047 WE KEEP OUR INFORMATION SEPARATE. 621 00:27:09,047 --> 00:27:10,715 SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME 622 00:27:10,715 --> 00:27:14,319 THAT DR. McKEE REALLY HEARS THE WHOLE STORY. 623 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:15,687 CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? 624 00:27:15,687 --> 00:27:17,956 Woman on phone: YEAH, I HEAR YOU GREAT. 625 00:27:17,956 --> 00:27:20,358 OKAY, YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND WERE HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS, 626 00:27:20,358 --> 00:27:22,094 SO YOU'VE REALLY GROWN UP WITH HIM. 627 00:27:22,094 --> 00:27:23,828 Dr. Stern: AFTER DR. McKEE HAS COMPLETED 628 00:27:23,828 --> 00:27:25,696 HER EXAMINATION OF THE BRAIN, 629 00:27:25,696 --> 00:27:27,832 WE'LL ALL GET TOGETHER ON THE PHONE 630 00:27:27,832 --> 00:27:29,301 WITH THE FAMILY MEMBERS. 631 00:27:29,301 --> 00:27:32,504 HE WAS A BOXER, STARTING AT AGE 9, 632 00:27:32,504 --> 00:27:35,072 AND WAS A CHAMP. 633 00:27:35,072 --> 00:27:37,541 HE WAS IN AROUND 98 BOUTS, 634 00:27:37,541 --> 00:27:39,543 AND IN THE RING, ONLY ONE KNOCKOUT. 635 00:27:39,543 --> 00:27:43,380 FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, HE HAD BEEN SHOWING SOME 636 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:48,185 PROBLEMS WITH MEMORY, ATTENTION, PLANNING, AND ORGANIZATION. 637 00:27:48,185 --> 00:27:50,854 IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, HE COULDN'T EVEN HOLD A THOUGHT. 638 00:27:50,854 --> 00:27:52,856 HIS BEHAVIOR BECAME QUITE OUT OF CONTROL. 639 00:27:52,856 --> 00:27:56,392 FOR EXAMPLE, THE WEEK BEFORE HE DIED, 640 00:27:56,392 --> 00:27:58,528 HE WAS RESPONDING TO YOUR 14-YEAR-OLD SON'S WISH 641 00:27:58,528 --> 00:28:02,599 FOR GETTING SOME HELP GETTING READY FOR A TRIP, 642 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:04,868 UH, AND, UH... 643 00:28:04,868 --> 00:28:08,971 HE THEN WOUND UP TRYING TO SUFFOCATE 644 00:28:08,971 --> 00:28:12,074 YOUR SON TO TEACH HIM A LESSON. 645 00:28:12,074 --> 00:28:17,913 HE WAS SEEN PSYCHIATRICALLY AND THEN HE DECIDED 646 00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,449 TO TAKE HIS LIFE IN FRONT OF YOU 647 00:28:20,449 --> 00:28:21,817 BY THE GUNSHOT WOUND 648 00:28:21,817 --> 00:28:27,189 WITH THE KIDS, UM, RIGHT NEXT DOOR. 649 00:28:27,189 --> 00:28:30,791 THIS IS A GUY WHO WAS A GREAT FATHER AND HUSBAND, 650 00:28:30,791 --> 00:28:34,929 AND THEN BECAME A DIFFERENT PERSON. 651 00:28:34,929 --> 00:28:36,797 Dr. McKee: THEN IT GOES TO ME 652 00:28:36,797 --> 00:28:38,833 AND I SAY WHAT I SAW IN THE BRAIN. 653 00:28:38,833 --> 00:28:41,637 IT'S INCREDIBLY HARD 654 00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:45,173 BECAUSE YOU FEEL SO MUCH FOR SOME OF THESE FAMILIES. 655 00:28:45,173 --> 00:28:47,441 WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED THE TISSUE 656 00:28:47,441 --> 00:28:51,245 FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER. 657 00:28:51,245 --> 00:28:52,580 AND WE DID FIND 658 00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:55,416 IN MOST OF THE PIECES OF CEREBRAL CORTEX 659 00:28:55,416 --> 00:28:58,118 DENSE ACCUMULATIONS OF THAT PROTEIN TAO 660 00:28:58,118 --> 00:29:02,155 THAT WE DO SEE BUILD UP IN THE BRAINS OF INDIVIDUALS 661 00:29:02,155 --> 00:29:04,024 THAT HAVE CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY. 662 00:29:04,024 --> 00:29:06,426 AND I WOULD SAY IT WAS VERY SUBSTANTIAL 663 00:29:06,426 --> 00:29:10,297 FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO DIED AT THE AGE OF 40. 664 00:29:10,297 --> 00:29:14,501 Woman on phone: WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE, HAD WE KNOWN? 665 00:29:14,501 --> 00:29:19,539 Dr. Stern: NO, WE'RE SO EARLY IN THE STUDY OF THIS DISEASE 666 00:29:19,539 --> 00:29:22,241 THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANSWERS, 667 00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:23,842 YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF TREATMENT CAN BE DONE. 668 00:29:23,842 --> 00:29:26,512 HOPEFULLY IT GIVES YOU SOME AMOUNT OF COMFORT 669 00:29:26,512 --> 00:29:29,248 KNOWING THAT YOUR HUSBAND WAS REALLY STRUGGLING 670 00:29:29,248 --> 00:29:31,517 WITH A STRUCTURAL DISEASE AND THAT HE WASN'T, 671 00:29:31,517 --> 00:29:35,321 YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE THROES OF SOME PSYCHIATRIC DISORDER. 672 00:29:35,321 --> 00:29:38,056 Woman on phone: IT DOES BRING ME GREAT COMFORT, 673 00:29:38,056 --> 00:29:39,791 BUT IT ALSO BRINGS ME THIS GUILT 674 00:29:39,791 --> 00:29:41,993 BECAUSE I WAS SO ANGRY WITH HIM. 675 00:29:41,993 --> 00:29:46,331 IT HURTS ME TO THINK HE WAS IN SO MUCH PAIN. 676 00:29:46,331 --> 00:29:48,166 YEAH. 677 00:29:48,166 --> 00:29:52,704 Woman on phone: I'M SO THANKFUL. 678 00:29:52,704 --> 00:29:56,040 IT GIVES CURTIS A LITTLE BIT OF SELF-RESPECT BACK. 679 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,042 IT'S A REAL GIFT. 680 00:29:58,042 --> 00:29:59,644 Dr. Stern: ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU, 681 00:29:59,644 --> 00:30:01,044 WE'RE HERE FOR YOU. 682 00:30:01,044 --> 00:30:02,714 Woman on phone: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 683 00:30:02,714 --> 00:30:04,716 ALL RIGHT, TAKE CARE. 684 00:30:04,716 --> 00:30:08,118 Woman on phone: THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. 685 00:30:11,689 --> 00:30:13,257 ( sighs ) 686 00:30:43,386 --> 00:30:46,921 Alan Schwarz: IN JUNE OF 2007, THE LEAGUE, 687 00:30:46,921 --> 00:30:49,924 IN LARGE MEASURE BECAUSE OF THE STORIES THAT WE HAD BEEN RUNNING, 688 00:30:49,924 --> 00:30:54,963 HELD A SUMMIT OF ALL THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS FROM EVERY TEAM, 689 00:30:54,963 --> 00:30:58,733 AS WELL AS SOME LEAGUE OFFICIALS TO DISCUSS THE STATE OF THE RESEARCH. 690 00:30:58,733 --> 00:31:02,504 JUST BEFORE THIS, A FOURTH PLAYER 691 00:31:02,504 --> 00:31:05,640 HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY. 692 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,243 A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S ONLY FOUR GUYS. 693 00:31:09,243 --> 00:31:12,514 YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MAKE STATEMENTS BASED ON FOUR GUYS. 694 00:31:12,514 --> 00:31:17,518 AND I KNEW THAT YOU COULD, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING 695 00:31:17,518 --> 00:31:20,120 THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE GENERAL POPULATION. 696 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,889 I GOT AN INTERVIEW 697 00:31:21,889 --> 00:31:23,691 WITH THE COMMISSIONER DURING A BREAK, 698 00:31:23,691 --> 00:31:26,794 AND I RECORDED THE CONVERSATION WITH HIS PERMISSION. 699 00:31:26,794 --> 00:31:30,397 ROGER GOODELL: THERE'S NO RECORD OF A CONCUSSION. 700 00:31:30,397 --> 00:31:33,232 HE MAY HAVE HAD THE CONCUSSION SWIMMING. 701 00:31:33,232 --> 00:31:35,636 HE PLAYED IN THE LEAST RISKIEST POSITION. 702 00:31:35,636 --> 00:31:37,771 Alan Schwarz: HE COULD HAVE HAD A CONCUSSION SWIMMING? 703 00:31:37,771 --> 00:31:39,505 Roger Goodell: MY BROTHER HAD A CONCUSSION SWIMMING. 704 00:31:39,505 --> 00:31:41,240 HE HIT HIS HEAD ON THE SIDE OF THE POOL. 705 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,109 COME ON, ALAN, IT DOES HAPPEN. 706 00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:44,510 A CONCUSSION CAN HAPPEN 707 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:46,412 IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. 708 00:31:46,412 --> 00:31:48,013 Alan Schwarz: FOUR OUT OF FOUR. 709 00:31:48,013 --> 00:31:50,817 ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT ALL FOUR MEN 710 00:31:50,817 --> 00:31:53,720 SUSTAINED THEIR DAMAGE IN FIELDS OTHER THAN FOOTBALL? 711 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,588 Steve James: STOP IT RIGHT THERE FOR A SECOND. 712 00:31:55,588 --> 00:31:58,457 TAKE US BACK A LITTLE BIT, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING 713 00:31:58,457 --> 00:32:00,058 IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS CONVERSATION? 714 00:32:00,058 --> 00:32:02,361 I'M SCARED OUT OF MY MIND. 715 00:32:02,361 --> 00:32:04,596 DO YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW? I'M SCARED OUT OF MY MIND. 716 00:32:04,596 --> 00:32:08,066 I'M STANDING THERE TALKING TO THE COMMISSIONER OF THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, 717 00:32:08,066 --> 00:32:11,336 BASICALLY DUMPING AT HIS FEET A PROBLEM 718 00:32:11,336 --> 00:32:15,741 THAT I KNEW IN MY BONES WAS GOING TO BE IMMENSE FOR HIM. 719 00:32:15,741 --> 00:32:21,747 AND IN A WAY, I WAS BECOMING THE MATH TEACHER THAT I HAD ALWAYS PLANNED ON BEING. 720 00:32:21,747 --> 00:32:27,485 ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS GET HIM TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBABILITIES AT WORK HERE, 721 00:32:27,485 --> 00:32:30,488 THAT IT WASN'T JUST ME BEING IN A PAIN IN THE ASS, 722 00:32:30,488 --> 00:32:34,225 IT WAS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU'RE FOUR OUT OF FOUR 723 00:32:34,225 --> 00:32:37,395 FOR A MILLION-TO-ONE SHOT, SOMETHING'S UP. 724 00:32:37,395 --> 00:32:41,866 Alan Schwarz: SO AT THE END OF 2009, 725 00:32:41,866 --> 00:32:44,934 I GET A CALL FROM A SOURCE OF MINE 726 00:32:44,934 --> 00:32:50,673 WHO HAS A DOCUMENT THAT HE NEEDS ME TO SEE. 727 00:32:50,673 --> 00:32:51,940 "WHAT IS IT?" 728 00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:53,976 "I CAN'T TELL YOU. TRUST ME." 729 00:32:53,976 --> 00:32:58,914 SO WE MEET AT A RESTAURANT IN NEW YORK, 730 00:32:58,914 --> 00:33:00,450 AND HE PASSES IT OVER, 731 00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:02,384 AND IT'S A STUDY THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN 732 00:33:02,384 --> 00:33:07,256 HAS DONE OF RETIRED NFL PLAYERS, 733 00:33:07,256 --> 00:33:09,558 ASKING THEM ALL SORTS OF HEALTH RELATED QUESTIONS: 734 00:33:09,558 --> 00:33:13,662 DO YOU HAVE HEART DISEASE? ARTHRITIS? DEPRESSION? 735 00:33:13,662 --> 00:33:17,299 KIDNEY FUNCTION? THERE'S LIKE 50 PAGES. 736 00:33:17,299 --> 00:33:20,436 AND THEIR FINDING WAS THAT THE NFL PLAYERS LOOK LIKE 737 00:33:20,436 --> 00:33:22,838 THEY'RE A PRETTY HAPPY AND HEALTHY GROUP. 738 00:33:22,838 --> 00:33:26,374 BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 37 OR SOMETHING, 739 00:33:26,374 --> 00:33:28,409 THERE'S THIS ONE LITTLE SECTION. 740 00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:31,546 AND IT TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY HAD ASKED, 741 00:33:31,546 --> 00:33:36,417 HAVE YOU BEEN DIAGNOSED BY A PHYSICIAN AS HAVING 742 00:33:36,417 --> 00:33:40,086 ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE OR OTHER MEMORY-RELATED DISEASE? 743 00:33:40,086 --> 00:33:42,322 AND THERE WERE THE RATES. 744 00:33:42,322 --> 00:33:45,292 FROM AGE 30 TO 49, 745 00:33:45,292 --> 00:33:48,830 1.9% HAD SAID YES. 746 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:53,166 SO IT WAS 19 TIMES THAT OF THE NATIONAL POPULATION. 747 00:33:55,635 --> 00:33:57,237 WELL, IT HADN'T BECOME PUBLIC YET. 748 00:33:57,237 --> 00:33:58,939 I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVER WOULD HAVE BECOME PUBLIC 749 00:33:58,939 --> 00:34:01,942 HAD IT NOT BEEN LEAKED TO ME. 750 00:34:01,942 --> 00:34:04,076 AND THAT WAS THE GAME CHANGER. 751 00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:06,646 Lou Dobbs: THERE IS A NEW REPORT FROM THE NFL. 752 00:34:06,646 --> 00:34:10,382 IT'S AN ALARMING REPORT LINKING FOOTBALL AND DEMENTIA. 753 00:34:10,382 --> 00:34:12,853 IN OTHER MEMORY-RELATED DISEASES, HOW MUCH HIGHER? 754 00:34:12,853 --> 00:34:15,488 NINETEEN TIMES. NINETEEN TIMES. 755 00:34:15,488 --> 00:34:18,357 NINETEEN TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE 756 00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:20,359 OR MEMORY-RELATED DISEASES 757 00:34:20,359 --> 00:34:22,928 THAN MEN WHO NEVER PLAYED PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. 758 00:34:22,928 --> 00:34:24,864 Alan Schwarz: AND CONGRESS, 759 00:34:24,864 --> 00:34:28,066 WHICH HAD SHOWN SOME INTEREST IN THIS SUBJECT BEFORE, 760 00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:30,669 WAS JUST WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO ACT UPON. 761 00:34:30,669 --> 00:34:33,104 THIS WAS WHAT THEY WERE WAITING FOR. 762 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:34,606 COMMISSIONER GOODELL, 763 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:38,576 IS THERE A LINK BETWEEN PLAYING PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL 764 00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:42,413 AND CONTRACTING A BRAIN-RELATED INJURY 765 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:48,720 SUCH AS DEMENTIA, ALZHEIMER'S, DEPRESSION, OR CTE? 766 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,655 CHAIRMAN, THE MEDICAL EXPERTS SHOULD BE THE ONE 767 00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:52,824 TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT DEBATE. 768 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:54,324 BUT OUR BOTTOM LINE IS, 769 00:34:54,324 --> 00:34:56,293 WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR THAT DEBATE TO CONTINUE. 770 00:34:56,293 --> 00:34:59,296 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR GAME IS SAFE. 771 00:34:59,296 --> 00:35:01,832 AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN 772 00:35:01,832 --> 00:35:05,536 TO CREATE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR PLAYERS. 773 00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:08,405 IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY TO SET-- 774 00:35:08,405 --> 00:35:11,642 WELL YOU'VE TESTIFIED TO THAT. YES. 775 00:35:11,642 --> 00:35:16,212 BUT I JUST ASKED YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHAT'S THE ANSWER? 776 00:35:16,212 --> 00:35:19,215 THE ANSWER IS THE MEDICAL EXPERTS WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I WOULD. 777 00:35:19,215 --> 00:35:21,751 Alan Schwarz: HE'S THE COMMISSIONER OF THE LEAGUE, HE'S NOT A SCIENTIST. 778 00:35:21,751 --> 00:35:26,289 AND ONE COULD ARGUE THAT HE SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE THINGS. 779 00:35:26,289 --> 00:35:28,491 ...OUR COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE SAFEST POSSIBLE-- 780 00:35:28,491 --> 00:35:33,328 ALL RIGHT, OKAY, I'VE HEARD IT. 781 00:35:33,328 --> 00:35:37,332 IT SORT OF REMINDS ME OF THE TOBACCO COMPANIES... 782 00:35:37,332 --> 00:35:39,735 Alan Schwarz: LINDA SANCHEZ WAS NOT MINCING WORDS. 783 00:35:39,735 --> 00:35:41,536 ...THERE'S NO LINK BETWEEN SMOKING AND, UM... 784 00:35:41,536 --> 00:35:42,939 Alan Schwarz: SHE BASICALLY SAID, 785 00:35:42,939 --> 00:35:45,574 "YOU HAVE A HEALTH PROBLEM WITH YOUR PRODUCT 786 00:35:45,574 --> 00:35:47,709 AND YOU'RE COVERING IT UP." THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID. 787 00:35:47,709 --> 00:35:49,844 "YOU ARE LIKE THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY." 788 00:35:49,844 --> 00:35:53,515 AND THOSE WORDS DID NOT SIT WELL WITH ROGER GOODELL. 789 00:35:53,515 --> 00:35:55,382 Rep. Maxine Waters: NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF HELMET YOU BUILD, 790 00:35:55,382 --> 00:35:58,385 NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE, 791 00:35:58,385 --> 00:36:00,287 IT IS A DANGEROUS SPORT. 792 00:36:00,287 --> 00:36:03,257 THE ONLY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU GOING TO PAY 793 00:36:03,257 --> 00:36:05,026 FOR THE INJURIES THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED 794 00:36:05,026 --> 00:36:09,897 IN HELPING YOU TO BE A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR OPERATION? 795 00:36:09,897 --> 00:36:12,232 Alan Schwarz: AND HE LEFT THOSE HEARINGS 796 00:36:12,232 --> 00:36:15,502 KNOWING THAT HE HAD A REAL PROBLEM. 797 00:36:15,502 --> 00:36:17,705 THERE WAS A PROBLEM, AT LEAST IN PERCEPTION 798 00:36:17,705 --> 00:36:19,840 AND PROBABLY IN REALITY, 799 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,575 AND IT WAS TIME FOR CHANGE. 800 00:36:22,575 --> 00:36:25,378 AND EVERY WEEK, 801 00:36:25,378 --> 00:36:27,780 THERE WAS A NEW CHANGE IN THE NFL. 802 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:31,050 PLAYERS WERE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO GO BACK INTO GAMES 803 00:36:31,050 --> 00:36:32,852 AFTER HAVING SUSTAINED A CONCUSSION. 804 00:36:32,852 --> 00:36:34,587 Dr. H. Hunt Batjer: THE DEFINITION OF CONCUSSION 805 00:36:34,587 --> 00:36:36,422 HAS BECOME MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVE 806 00:36:36,422 --> 00:36:38,691 TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE FEELING DINGED 807 00:36:38,691 --> 00:36:43,161 OR A BIT OF CONFUSION, SEEING STARS, 808 00:36:43,161 --> 00:36:46,431 DIZZY OR VERTIGINOUS OR POOR BALANCE. 809 00:36:46,431 --> 00:36:50,103 ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SIGNS OF CONCUSSION. 810 00:36:50,103 --> 00:36:53,138 Dr. Cantu: CRACK BACK BLOCK CAN'T BE TO THE HEAD. 811 00:36:53,138 --> 00:36:55,107 YOU CANNOT HIT A DEFENSELESS PERSON 812 00:36:55,107 --> 00:36:58,443 IN THE ACT OF CATCHING A BALL BEFORE THEY'VE SECURED IT 813 00:36:58,443 --> 00:36:59,978 OR THROWING THE BALL. 814 00:36:59,978 --> 00:37:02,614 THE WEDGE HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM FOUR MEN TO TWO MEN, 815 00:37:02,614 --> 00:37:05,316 BECAUSE THE PERSON BREAKING THE WEDGE 816 00:37:05,316 --> 00:37:07,251 WAS LARGELY USING HIS HEAD TO DO IT. 817 00:37:07,251 --> 00:37:10,721 Alan Schwarz: MAYBE WE CAN GET AWAY WITH LOSING THESE THINGS 818 00:37:10,721 --> 00:37:13,457 BECAUSE THE REST OF THE GAME IS STILL GOOD ENOUGH 819 00:37:13,457 --> 00:37:15,127 THAT PEOPLE WON'T REALLY MISS IT THAT MUCH. 820 00:37:15,127 --> 00:37:19,195 I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T WATCH FOOTBALL ANYMORE 821 00:37:19,195 --> 00:37:21,197 BECAUSE THERE'S NO HEAD SLAPS. 822 00:37:21,197 --> 00:37:22,867 "OH, MAN, YOU KNOW I LOVE THOSE HEAD SLAPS. 823 00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:24,735 "THERE'S NO HEAD SLAPS ANYMORE. THAT AIN'T FOOTBALL. 824 00:37:24,735 --> 00:37:26,737 WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT A SKIRT ON THEM." 825 00:37:26,737 --> 00:37:30,007 AND THEN YOU HAD THE RESIGNATIONS OF THE TWO GUYS 826 00:37:30,007 --> 00:37:33,110 WHO WERE THE HEADS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO HAD BEEN SAYING FOR SO LONG, 827 00:37:33,110 --> 00:37:34,511 "THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE, FOLKS, 828 00:37:34,511 --> 00:37:36,813 MOVE ALONG, MOVE ALONG, NOTHING TO SEE HERE." 829 00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:40,383 Dr. Cantu: COMMISSIONER GOODELL HAS SPEAR-HEADED RULES CHANGES. 830 00:37:40,383 --> 00:37:42,385 THEY COMPLETELY CLEANED HOUSE 831 00:37:42,385 --> 00:37:44,854 WITH THE PREVIOUS MILD TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY COMMITTEE. 832 00:37:44,854 --> 00:37:46,723 THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE 833 00:37:46,723 --> 00:37:48,457 A BRAND-NEW HEAD, NECK, AND SPINE COMMITTEE 834 00:37:48,457 --> 00:37:52,761 THAT HAS UNIVERSITY NEUROSURGERY CHAIRS AS CO-DIRECTORS. 835 00:37:52,761 --> 00:37:54,763 THEY EVEN PUT PROBABLY THEIR BIGGEST CRITIC 836 00:37:54,763 --> 00:37:57,100 AS THE SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE GROUP. 837 00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,400 Steve James: THAT WOULD BE YOU? 838 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,135 THAT WOULD BE ME, YES. 839 00:38:00,135 --> 00:38:03,271 THEN I GOT A CALL FROM A REPORTER ON A SUNDAY MORNING. 840 00:38:03,271 --> 00:38:05,541 I PICK UP THE PHONE AT MY HOUSE ON A SUNDAY 841 00:38:05,541 --> 00:38:08,543 AND IT'S SOME CBS REPORTER WHO'S ASKING... 842 00:38:08,543 --> 00:38:09,978 "HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLARS 843 00:38:09,978 --> 00:38:11,847 THE NFL'S GONNA GIVE BOSTON UNIVERSITY?" 844 00:38:11,847 --> 00:38:14,382 AND I SAID, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT." 845 00:38:14,382 --> 00:38:18,252 THE OFFER WAS MADE THROUGH THE MEDIA. 846 00:38:18,252 --> 00:38:20,089 IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY THAT 847 00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:24,826 IT WASN'T PARTIALLY DESIGNED AS A PR STUNT. 848 00:38:24,826 --> 00:38:28,563 I'M STILL CONCERNED THAT THEIR CONCERN IS MOSTLY DEFENSIVE, 849 00:38:28,563 --> 00:38:30,565 TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST THIS 850 00:38:30,565 --> 00:38:33,433 RATHER THAN TO PROTECT THE PLAYERS. 851 00:38:33,433 --> 00:38:35,702 Chris: THE MEDICAL SCHOOL RECOMMENDED 852 00:38:35,702 --> 00:38:39,406 UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WE ACCEPT ANY MONEY FROM THE NFL 853 00:38:39,406 --> 00:38:41,109 UNLESS IT WAS AN UNRESTRICTED GIFT. 854 00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:43,009 THEY WEREN'T TELLING US WHAT TO STUDY OR HOW TO STUDY IT, 855 00:38:43,009 --> 00:38:44,845 THEY JUST SAID, "HERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS, 856 00:38:44,845 --> 00:38:49,116 DO WITH IT WHAT YOU WILL TO ADVANCE RESEARCH ON CTE." 857 00:38:49,116 --> 00:38:51,985 Alan Schwarz: AND THEN AT THE END OF DECEMBER, 858 00:38:51,985 --> 00:38:54,587 THE LEAGUE UTTERED FOR THE FIRST TIME 859 00:38:54,587 --> 00:38:57,323 THAT CONCUSSIONS HAVE LONG-TERM EFFECTS 860 00:38:57,323 --> 00:38:59,291 IN NFL ATHLETES. 861 00:38:59,291 --> 00:39:01,094 THERE'S ADEQUATE INFORMATION NOW 862 00:39:01,094 --> 00:39:04,430 ON A NUMBER OF AUTOPSIES THAT ANN McKEE HAS DONE. 863 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:08,434 THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT REPETITIVE HEAD TRAUMA 864 00:39:08,434 --> 00:39:10,469 CAN CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE. 865 00:39:10,469 --> 00:39:13,672 Peewee coach: SAFETY FIRST, SAFETY FIRST. 866 00:39:13,672 --> 00:39:16,942 CLEAR! 867 00:39:16,942 --> 00:39:19,211 YEAH! 868 00:39:19,211 --> 00:39:20,612 ( whistle blows ) 869 00:39:20,612 --> 00:39:22,047 Peewee coach: PRIOR TO LAST YEAR, 870 00:39:22,047 --> 00:39:24,649 I HAD VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF CONCUSSIONS. 871 00:39:24,649 --> 00:39:26,584 WHAT, Y'ALL GONNA QUIT ON ME? 872 00:39:26,584 --> 00:39:28,720 YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME STATISTICS THAT SAID 873 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,723 THAT 85% OF THE CONCUSSIONS GO UN-DIAGNOSED 874 00:39:31,723 --> 00:39:33,323 BECAUSE PEOPLE LOOK AT THEM 875 00:39:33,323 --> 00:39:35,026 AS JUST BUMPS OR BRUISES TO THE HEAD. 876 00:39:35,026 --> 00:39:37,996 COME ON, GUYS, I NEED FOR Y'ALL TO SPREAD KNUCKLE DOWN. 877 00:39:37,996 --> 00:39:39,363 IT'S ALL OR NEVER, BABY. 878 00:39:39,363 --> 00:39:42,499 AND IF ONE OF OUR CHILDREN GETS HURT OUT ON THE FIELD, 879 00:39:42,499 --> 00:39:44,635 A CONCUSSION, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES 880 00:39:44,635 --> 00:39:46,503 IS HE GOING BACK OUT TO PLAY. 881 00:39:46,503 --> 00:39:49,673 WE LET HIM KNOW, "HEY, GOOD JOB, TAKE IT OFF FOR THE DAY. 882 00:39:49,673 --> 00:39:51,074 EDDIE, WATCH MY LEFT. 883 00:39:51,074 --> 00:39:54,978 HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, CHRIS. HEY, WATCH 14, JAM HIM. 884 00:39:54,978 --> 00:39:58,048 GET HIM! GET HIM! 885 00:39:58,048 --> 00:40:00,884 GET HIM! GET HIM! GET THE BALL! 886 00:40:00,884 --> 00:40:03,053 THAT'S A BLOCK IN THE BACK. 887 00:40:03,053 --> 00:40:05,321 GET HIM. GET THE BALL. 888 00:40:05,321 --> 00:40:06,923 ( whistle blows ) 889 00:40:06,923 --> 00:40:09,959 THAT'S ALL RIGHT. COME ON. THAT'S ALL RIGHT, GUYS. 890 00:40:09,959 --> 00:40:11,195 THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 891 00:40:11,195 --> 00:40:13,596 DON'T Y'ALL GIVE UP ON ME. YOU HEAR ME? 892 00:40:13,596 --> 00:40:16,331 MAKE THE STORY ABOUT DAVID AND GOLIATH COME TRUE. 893 00:40:16,331 --> 00:40:18,000 DAVID CAME BACK. 894 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,469 WE NEED TO PLAY BETTER THAN WE'RE PLAYING, GUYS. 895 00:40:22,671 --> 00:40:24,240 ( crowd cheering ) 896 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,409 Announcer: OH, PACIORETTY IS DOWN FACE FIRST! 897 00:40:27,409 --> 00:40:29,178 News anchor: WELL, IT HAS BECOME 898 00:40:29,178 --> 00:40:31,880 ONE OF THE MOST PERPLEXING ISSUES IN HOCKEY. 899 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,416 CONCUSSIONS HAVE ALTERED THE LIVES OF FAR TOO MANY ATHLETES. 900 00:40:34,416 --> 00:40:36,651 Announcer: THIS IS A MASTICATING HIT! 901 00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,787 Announcer: SERIOUS HEADACHES FOR THE NHL. 902 00:40:38,787 --> 00:40:40,487 I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED IN THE WRESTLING 903 00:40:40,487 --> 00:40:42,324 AND THE FOOTBALL FIELDS THE MOST. 904 00:40:42,324 --> 00:40:45,227 WITH TODAY'S NEWS, HOCKEY IS OBVIOUSLY A HIGHER PROFILE. 905 00:40:45,227 --> 00:40:48,696 UNFORTUNATELY I THINK MORE PEOPLE ARE RETIRING FROM HOCKEY, FROM THE NHL, 906 00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:50,564 THAN ARE FROM THE NFL FROM CONCUSSIONS. 907 00:40:50,564 --> 00:40:51,966 SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A SIGN 908 00:40:51,966 --> 00:40:56,804 THAT THE CONCUSSION ISSUE IS VERY SEVERE. 909 00:40:56,804 --> 00:41:01,075 Keith Primeau: I STARTED PLAYING PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD. 910 00:41:01,075 --> 00:41:05,545 PHYSICAL, HARD, SKATING, POWER FORWARD. 911 00:41:05,545 --> 00:41:06,814 CREATE HAVOC IN THE CORNERS, 912 00:41:06,814 --> 00:41:08,414 CREATE HAVOC IN THE FRONT OF THE NET, 913 00:41:08,414 --> 00:41:10,516 AND TRY AND SCORE A DIRTY GOAL. 914 00:41:10,516 --> 00:41:14,854 Announcer: SHOOTS AND SCORES! WHAT A GOAL BY KEITH PRIMEAU! 915 00:41:14,854 --> 00:41:18,325 OVER THE COURSE OF MY CAREER, I HAD A COUPLE 30-GOAL SEASONS, 916 00:41:18,325 --> 00:41:20,793 A HANDFUL OF 20-GOAL SEASONS. 917 00:41:20,793 --> 00:41:24,764 SO I WAS CAPABLE OF PUTTING THE PUCK IN THE NET. 918 00:41:26,866 --> 00:41:29,969 Announcer: PRIMEAU SCORES! THERE IT IS! 919 00:41:29,969 --> 00:41:35,707 KEITH PRIMEAU WINS THIS GAME IN THE FIFTH OVERTIME! 920 00:41:35,707 --> 00:41:40,445 THE SERIES EVEN AT TWO GAMES A PIECE. 921 00:41:40,445 --> 00:41:42,814 FOR ME, THE BEGINNING OF MY DEMISE 922 00:41:42,814 --> 00:41:44,549 WAS MY SECOND DOCUMENTED CONCUSSION 923 00:41:44,549 --> 00:41:47,286 IN THE PLAYOFFS IN MAY OF 2000, 924 00:41:47,286 --> 00:41:49,620 WHERE I WAS OUT AT CENTER ICE. 925 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:52,490 Announcer: WHOA! PRIMEAU GOT LEVELED! 926 00:41:52,490 --> 00:41:55,093 AND HE DID NOT SEE THAT COMING. 927 00:41:55,093 --> 00:41:58,163 HE CAUGHT EVERY PART OF ME AND I WAS DOWN. 928 00:41:58,163 --> 00:42:00,765 I WAS PROBABLY OUT FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME, 929 00:42:00,765 --> 00:42:02,900 WHETHER IT WAS 10, 15 SECONDS. 930 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:04,769 TAKEN OFF THE ICE ON A STRETCHER, 931 00:42:04,769 --> 00:42:07,305 ONLY TO RETURN TO PLAY TWO NIGHTS LATER. 932 00:42:07,305 --> 00:42:10,908 I WAS OF THE SAME MINDSET AS EVERYBODY ELSE, 933 00:42:10,908 --> 00:42:13,377 THAT I DIDN'T TAKE THE INJURY SERIOUSLY. 934 00:42:13,377 --> 00:42:15,313 I THOUGHT IT WAS A PHANTOM INJURY, 935 00:42:15,313 --> 00:42:19,383 THAT THERE WERE PLAYERS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY 936 00:42:19,383 --> 00:42:21,651 SUFFERING THROUGH POST-CONCUSSION 937 00:42:21,651 --> 00:42:23,586 SO MUCH AS THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A BREAK. 938 00:42:23,586 --> 00:42:26,089 EVERYBODY PLAYED WITH BUMPS AND BRUISES. 939 00:42:26,089 --> 00:42:30,760 THERE WASN'T A GUY WHO WASN'T PLAYING THROUGH SOME TYPE OF INJURY OR PAIN. 940 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,297 AND SO YOU NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO TOUGH IT OUT. 941 00:42:34,297 --> 00:42:36,832 AND THERE WAS NOTHING YOU COULD SAY OR DO 942 00:42:36,832 --> 00:42:41,537 THAT WAS GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND OR THAT MENTALITY. 943 00:42:41,537 --> 00:42:43,539 DOCUMENTED CONCUSSION NUMBER THREE, 944 00:42:43,539 --> 00:42:45,541 I TOOK AN ELBOW TO THE SIDE OF THE HEAD. 945 00:42:45,541 --> 00:42:48,811 AND I THOUGHT I WAS FINE. 946 00:42:48,811 --> 00:42:51,547 I CAME HOME AND MY WIFE LOOKED AT ME 947 00:42:51,547 --> 00:42:53,349 AND SAID THAT I DIDN'T LOOK WELL 948 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:56,684 AND THAT I SHOULD PROBABLY NOT PLAY IN TWO DAYS' TIME. 949 00:42:56,684 --> 00:42:59,554 SHE KNEW THAT I WASN'T RIGHT. 950 00:42:59,554 --> 00:43:01,090 THAT HAPPENED ON A THURSDAY NIGHT, 951 00:43:01,090 --> 00:43:04,226 AND SATURDAY I WAS DRIVING TO THE RINK BY MYSELF, 952 00:43:04,226 --> 00:43:07,095 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I GOT EXTREMELY MOTION SICK. 953 00:43:07,095 --> 00:43:09,998 I COULDN'T FOCUS AND HAD TO CALL THE TRAINER 954 00:43:09,998 --> 00:43:12,233 AND SAY, "I DON'T FEEL RIGHT." 955 00:43:12,233 --> 00:43:14,534 AND I TURNED AROUND AND WENT HOME. 956 00:43:19,706 --> 00:43:23,577 IT WAS SIX FULL WEEKS OF CONCUSSION SYMPTOMS 957 00:43:23,577 --> 00:43:26,247 THAT I HADN'T EXPERIENCED BEFORE. 958 00:43:31,985 --> 00:43:36,990 AFTER THAT CONCUSSION, IT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR ME 959 00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:40,127 TO FOCUS IN PREPARATION FOR GAMES. 960 00:43:41,995 --> 00:43:44,998 I KNEW HOW FAST THE GAME MOVED, 961 00:43:44,998 --> 00:43:47,134 AND NOW I FELT AS THOUGH I WAS MAKING 962 00:43:47,134 --> 00:43:49,969 A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO MOVE AT THAT SPEED. 963 00:43:52,071 --> 00:43:53,839 Gary Dorshimer: PROBABLY THE ONE PLAYER 964 00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:57,143 THAT I'VE WORKED WITH THE LONGEST ABOUT CONCUSSION 965 00:43:57,143 --> 00:43:58,878 WAS KEITH PRIMEAU. 966 00:43:58,878 --> 00:44:00,479 MOTION JUST WAS A BIG PROBLEM. 967 00:44:00,479 --> 00:44:02,281 AND HE WAS VERY SLOW TO RECOVER. 968 00:44:02,281 --> 00:44:05,884 AND HE WAS VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE HE WANTED TO PLAY, 969 00:44:05,884 --> 00:44:07,952 BUT REALIZED HE COULDN'T. 970 00:44:13,024 --> 00:44:16,027 Keith Primeau: FOLLOWING MY FOURTH DOCUMENTED CONCUSSION, 971 00:44:16,027 --> 00:44:20,298 I STEPPED INTO THE HEAD ATHLETIC TRAINER'S OFFICE AND I SAID, 972 00:44:20,298 --> 00:44:22,767 "I THINK I'LL BE READY. ANOTHER WEEK I'LL BE SET TO GO." 973 00:44:22,767 --> 00:44:24,768 BUT YOU KNOW, I NEED THAT. I NEED ANOTHER WEEK." 974 00:44:24,768 --> 00:44:26,770 HE KINDA SAT THERE AND LISTENED TO ME. 975 00:44:26,770 --> 00:44:29,107 AND WHEN I WAS DONE, HE SAID, 976 00:44:29,107 --> 00:44:30,974 "KEITH, WE APPLAUD YOUR COURAGE 977 00:44:30,974 --> 00:44:32,843 "AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, 978 00:44:32,843 --> 00:44:36,113 BUT I'LL NEVER GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO PLAY AGAIN." 979 00:44:36,113 --> 00:44:38,582 AND AT THAT POINT, MY CAREER WAS OVER. 980 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:42,352 MY SENSE WAS THAT OF RELIEF. 981 00:44:42,352 --> 00:44:44,054 I WAS RELIEVED. 982 00:44:47,157 --> 00:44:48,791 Brendan Shanahan: YOU KNOW, IN HOCKEY, 983 00:44:48,791 --> 00:44:50,294 THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE STICK OUT OF YOUR HANDS. 984 00:44:50,294 --> 00:44:52,995 AND I ALWAYS FELT THAT ABOUT MYSELF AS A PLAYER. 985 00:44:52,995 --> 00:44:54,398 ♪ 986 00:44:54,398 --> 00:44:56,666 I WON'T JUST LAY IT DOWN. 987 00:44:56,666 --> 00:44:59,669 Announcer: SCORES! SHANAHAN! WHAT A SHOT! 988 00:44:59,669 --> 00:45:01,404 I WAS A PHYSICAL PLAYER, 989 00:45:01,404 --> 00:45:03,005 SIMILAR TO KEITH PRIMEAU. 990 00:45:03,005 --> 00:45:05,141 WE PLAYED SIMILAR STYLES. 991 00:45:05,141 --> 00:45:10,313 I WAS LUCKY IN THAT I HAD ONE DIAGNOSED CONCUSSION. 992 00:45:10,313 --> 00:45:12,482 I'M SURE I PROBABLY HAD A FEW EARLIER IN MY CAREER. 993 00:45:12,482 --> 00:45:17,219 SO WHEN THEY APPROACHED ME AND ASKED ME TO TAKE OVER 994 00:45:17,219 --> 00:45:19,221 THIS NEW DEPARTMENT OF PLAYER SAFETY, 995 00:45:19,221 --> 00:45:22,357 I FELT THAT I COULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE GAME. 996 00:45:25,460 --> 00:45:26,795 WEDNESDAY NIGHT IN CHICAGO, 997 00:45:26,795 --> 00:45:28,430 AN INCIDENT OCCURRED DURING THE GAME BETWEEN 998 00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:31,233 THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS AND THE DETROIT RED WINGS. 999 00:45:31,233 --> 00:45:35,703 AT 5:26 OF THE THIRD PERIOD, DETROIT DEFENSEMAN BRENDAN SMITH 1000 00:45:35,703 --> 00:45:37,705 DELIVERED AN ILLEGAL HIT TO THE HEAD 1001 00:45:37,705 --> 00:45:39,974 OF CHICAGO FORWARD BEN SMITH, 1002 00:45:39,974 --> 00:45:41,742 CAUSING HIM TO LOSE CONSCIOUSNESS. 1003 00:45:41,742 --> 00:45:43,144 AS THE VIDEO SHOWS... 1004 00:45:43,144 --> 00:45:44,879 Chris: THE NHL THIS YEAR, 1005 00:45:44,879 --> 00:45:48,215 THERE IS A STRONG PUSH NOT ONLY TO PENALIZE PLAYERS 1006 00:45:48,215 --> 00:45:50,084 BUT TO EDUCATE THEM IN WHY THEY'RE BEING PENALIZED 1007 00:45:50,084 --> 00:45:52,153 AND SAY, "THIS IS THE FUTURE OF THE WAY WE'RE GONNA PLAY, 1008 00:45:52,153 --> 00:45:53,554 AND YOU BETTER COME ALONG." 1009 00:45:53,554 --> 00:45:55,489 I'LL START WITH THE PREMISE THAT AS LONG 1010 00:45:55,489 --> 00:45:57,056 AS WE CONTINUE TO PLAY HOCKEY, 1011 00:45:57,056 --> 00:45:58,892 THERE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE HEAD INJURIES. 1012 00:45:58,892 --> 00:46:00,427 THERE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BRAIN INJURIES. 1013 00:46:00,427 --> 00:46:04,431 BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE PLAYERS WANNA STOP PLAYING 1014 00:46:04,431 --> 00:46:07,568 AND CERTAINLY DOESN'T WANNA MAKE FANS STOP WATCHING THE GAME. 1015 00:46:07,568 --> 00:46:10,170 IT'S A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW, BUT AS AS A PLAYER, 1016 00:46:10,170 --> 00:46:13,907 USUALLY IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. 1017 00:46:13,907 --> 00:46:16,176 I GUESS WE'RE SUPERSTITIOUS 1018 00:46:16,176 --> 00:46:18,311 ABOUT INJURIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 1019 00:46:18,311 --> 00:46:20,313 Brendan Shanahan: IT'S OUR GOAL TO ELIMINATE 1020 00:46:20,313 --> 00:46:23,283 AS MANY NEEDLESS INJURIES AS WE CAN 1021 00:46:23,283 --> 00:46:25,485 AND TO BE VERY CLEAR AND EDUCATIONAL 1022 00:46:25,485 --> 00:46:27,019 WHEN WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 1023 00:46:27,019 --> 00:46:28,588 IT'S WHY WE DO THE VIDEOS. 1024 00:46:28,588 --> 00:46:30,956 I HAVE SUSPENDED HIM FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PRESEASON 1025 00:46:30,956 --> 00:46:34,059 PLUS 5 REGULAR SEASON GAMES. 1026 00:46:34,059 --> 00:46:38,330 HERE AT THE NHL, I'M THE NEW ENFORCER. 1027 00:46:38,330 --> 00:46:40,432 News anchor: NHL ENFORCER DEREK BOOGAARD, 1028 00:46:40,432 --> 00:46:43,435 HE DIED EARLIER THIS YEAR FROM A DRUG OVERDOSE. 1029 00:46:43,435 --> 00:46:46,538 News Anchor: FORMER NHL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION BOB ROBERT 1030 00:46:46,538 --> 00:46:49,874 WHO DIED RECENTLY AT THE AGE OF 45, HE SUFFERED FROM THIS. 1031 00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:52,443 News anchor: IT SHOWED THE 28-YEAR-OLD SUFFERED FROM A BRAIN DISEASE 1032 00:46:52,443 --> 00:46:54,946 AND THE DAMAGE WAS MORE EXTENSIVE THAN EXPECTED. 1033 00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:58,482 THE RESULTS HAVE SOME CALLING FOR CHANGES TO THE GAME. 1034 00:46:58,482 --> 00:47:01,219 Ruben Echemendia: THERE ARE LEAPS TO CONCLUSIONS. 1035 00:47:01,219 --> 00:47:03,487 FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE 1036 00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:08,225 THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS AN ENFORCER AND WE FOUND TAO PROTEINS 1037 00:47:08,225 --> 00:47:10,695 BUILDING UP IN HIS BRAIN IN AN UNUSUAL WAY, 1038 00:47:10,695 --> 00:47:12,495 WHICH IS CTE, 1039 00:47:12,495 --> 00:47:17,500 THAT BEING AN ENFORCER LEADS TO HAVING CTE, 1040 00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,503 AND THAT MAY HAVE LED TO DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE. 1041 00:47:20,503 --> 00:47:23,106 AND AGAIN, THAT'S CONNECTING THE DOTS IN A WAY 1042 00:47:23,106 --> 00:47:26,643 THAT ISN'T SUPPORTED BY THE SCIENCE RIGHT NOW. 1043 00:47:26,643 --> 00:47:28,511 THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE GAPS IN SCIENCE 1044 00:47:28,511 --> 00:47:30,980 AND WE CANNOT TAKE VIRTUALLY ANY DISEASE 1045 00:47:30,980 --> 00:47:34,049 FROM A TO B TO C TO Z, 1046 00:47:34,049 --> 00:47:38,554 BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE BODY OF EVIDENCE 1047 00:47:38,554 --> 00:47:39,955 OVER THE LAST 80 YEARS. 1048 00:47:39,955 --> 00:47:41,490 YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE THAT EVERYBODY 1049 00:47:41,490 --> 00:47:43,359 WHO'S EVER DEVELOPED THIS DISEASE 1050 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:45,461 TOOK EXTRAORDINARY BRAIN TRAUMA, 1051 00:47:45,461 --> 00:47:48,930 YOU COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT TRAUMA IS CAUSING THIS. 1052 00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:52,133 WE'RE OUT OF OTHER OPTIONS. 1053 00:47:52,133 --> 00:47:54,869 AND THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO START CHANGING WHAT WE DO. 1054 00:47:54,869 --> 00:47:56,871 WELL, AS THE LEAGUE HAS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, 1055 00:47:56,871 --> 00:48:01,676 FIGHTING DOES CONTRIBUTE TO CAUSING CONCUSSIONS. 1056 00:48:01,676 --> 00:48:04,412 Steve James: SO DO YOU GUYS MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR DO YOU JUST REPORT? 1057 00:48:04,412 --> 00:48:08,882 NO, OUR ROLE IS NOT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT RATHER TO REPORT THE FACTS. 1058 00:48:08,882 --> 00:48:12,953 Bill Daly: THE LEAGUE IS COMING UP ON ITS 100th ANNIVERSARY. 1059 00:48:12,953 --> 00:48:15,389 FIGHTING HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE GAME. 1060 00:48:15,389 --> 00:48:18,760 YOU CAN'T JUST SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND SAY, "MAKE IT GO AWAY." 1061 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,096 Dr. Cantu: THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT EXTRA-CURRICULAR ACTIVITY 1062 00:48:23,096 --> 00:48:28,769 IS A BIT OF AN ENHANCEMENT FOR A SEGMENT OF THE CROWD. 1063 00:48:28,769 --> 00:48:30,903 BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE IT OUT, 1064 00:48:30,903 --> 00:48:32,905 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S PART OF HOCKEY. 1065 00:48:32,905 --> 00:48:36,510 Announcer: WHOA! KEITH PRIMEAU JUMPED McKEVIN FROM BEHIND! 1066 00:48:36,510 --> 00:48:39,245 AND RHETT WARNER DIDN'T LIKE IT! 1067 00:48:39,245 --> 00:48:40,714 Keith Primeau: I WASN'T A FIGHTER. 1068 00:48:40,714 --> 00:48:42,181 UM, I FOUGHT PLENTY. 1069 00:48:42,181 --> 00:48:44,785 I AVERAGED, OVER THE COURSE OF MY CAREER, 1070 00:48:44,785 --> 00:48:48,054 A HALF-DOZEN FIGHTS A YEAR. 1071 00:48:48,054 --> 00:48:50,189 THERE WAS ALWAYS A PURPOSE FOR MY FIGHTING. 1072 00:48:50,189 --> 00:48:52,191 I WAS STICKING UP FOR TEAMMATES, STICKING UP FOR MYSELF, 1073 00:48:52,191 --> 00:48:54,993 TRYING TO CHANGE THE TEMPO OF A GAME. 1074 00:48:54,993 --> 00:48:58,263 Chayse Primeau: SOMETIMES I GO ON YOUTUBE, WATCH HIS FIGHTS. 1075 00:48:58,263 --> 00:48:59,864 ( laughs ) 1076 00:48:59,864 --> 00:49:02,400 Steve James: IS IT NICE HAVING A DAD THAT WAS THAT TOUGH? 1077 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,738 YEAH, PROTECTIVE 1078 00:49:05,738 --> 00:49:07,138 ( laughs ) 1079 00:49:07,138 --> 00:49:10,742 HE'S PROBABLY SAW A FEW FIGHTS. 1080 00:49:10,742 --> 00:49:13,611 YEAH, THEY DON'T PUT THE GOALS ON YOUTUBE. 1081 00:49:13,611 --> 00:49:17,915 THEY'RE YOUTUBING THE ALTERCATIONS. 1082 00:49:17,915 --> 00:49:20,351 Chayse Primeau: NEXT YEAR, THE GAME WILL GET MORE PHYSICAL 1083 00:49:20,351 --> 00:49:23,087 AND FASTER, CAUSE WE'RE GETTING OLDER. 1084 00:49:23,087 --> 00:49:27,224 I'LL BE 15 NEXT YEAR. 1085 00:49:27,224 --> 00:49:29,226 I MEAN, EVEN NOW, TODAY, 1086 00:49:29,226 --> 00:49:31,628 OUR TEAM'S BEATING THAT TEAM FIVE-NOTHING. 1087 00:49:31,628 --> 00:49:33,831 THEY THINK THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO, 1088 00:49:33,831 --> 00:49:36,367 SO THEY START GETTING PHYSICAL. 1089 00:49:36,367 --> 00:49:38,101 WHEN WE WENT IN FRONT OF THE NET, 1090 00:49:38,101 --> 00:49:40,571 THEY STARTED PUSHING AND SHOVING. 1091 00:49:40,571 --> 00:49:43,239 PART OF THE GAME. 1092 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,975 IF I HAVE TO GET IN A FIGHT, I'M GONNA. 1093 00:49:45,975 --> 00:49:48,644 BUILDS CHARACTER, I GUESS. 1094 00:49:48,644 --> 00:49:50,279 Steve: HAVE YOU BEEN IN FIGHTS? 1095 00:49:50,279 --> 00:49:53,249 NOT LIKE DROP THE GLOVES, BUT YEAH, I'VE BEEN IN A FIGHT. 1096 00:49:53,249 --> 00:49:55,118 Steve: AND WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? 1097 00:49:55,118 --> 00:49:56,985 IT WASN'T THAT HARD. 1098 00:49:56,985 --> 00:49:59,054 I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY FUN. ( laughs ) 1099 00:50:03,526 --> 00:50:06,261 Keith Primeau: TO SEE CHAYSE GET IN A FIGHT IN A GAME 1100 00:50:06,261 --> 00:50:07,597 WOULD DISAPPOINT ME. 1101 00:50:07,597 --> 00:50:09,398 BECAUSE YOU CAN BE THERE FOR YOUR TEAMMATE, 1102 00:50:09,398 --> 00:50:12,501 YOU CAN SHOW YOUR COMMITMENT, YOU CAN SHOW THAT COURAGE, 1103 00:50:12,501 --> 00:50:15,670 ALL AT THE SAME TIME, NOT HAVING TO DROP YOUR GLOVES. 1104 00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:17,672 ( crowd cheering ) 1105 00:50:17,672 --> 00:50:19,207 AS A HOCKEY TRADITIONALIST, 1106 00:50:19,207 --> 00:50:22,244 I'VE HELD STEADFAST OF THE BELIEF 1107 00:50:22,244 --> 00:50:25,514 THAT THERE'S A PLACE IN THE GAME FOR FIGHTING. 1108 00:50:25,514 --> 00:50:29,818 I ACCEPTED THE INHERENT RISK. I WAS A WILLING COMBATANT. 1109 00:50:29,818 --> 00:50:32,353 WITH MORE THOUGHT, I REALLY WONDER 1110 00:50:32,353 --> 00:50:33,889 IF THERE IS A PLACE FOR FIGHTING IN THE GAME, 1111 00:50:33,889 --> 00:50:36,223 ULTIMATELY, IF WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT OUR PLAYERS 1112 00:50:36,223 --> 00:50:38,925 THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN. 1113 00:50:38,925 --> 00:50:41,094 WHAT HAPPENS IF, IN A GAME, WE HAVE 1114 00:50:41,094 --> 00:50:43,564 HALF THE GUYS COMPETING AND HALF THE GUYS AREN'T? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? 1115 00:50:43,564 --> 00:50:45,800 WE'RE GONNA LOSE. WE'RE GONNA LOSE. 1116 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,535 SO YOU GOT HALF THE GUYS DOING THE DRILL RIGHT 1117 00:50:47,535 --> 00:50:50,470 AND HALF THE GUYS CHEATING AND CUTTING IT OFF. 1118 00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:52,640 DO IT RIGHT. 1119 00:50:55,175 --> 00:50:56,911 THROW ME THE PUCK. 1120 00:50:56,911 --> 00:50:59,913 I STILL SUFFER THROUGH SYMPTOMS. 1121 00:50:59,913 --> 00:51:01,314 HEADS UP. 1122 00:51:01,314 --> 00:51:03,450 OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS, 1123 00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:07,186 I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAY THAT I'M IN A GOOD PLACE, 1124 00:51:07,186 --> 00:51:11,724 ONLY TO REGRESS-- HEADACHES AND HEAD PRESSURE, 1125 00:51:11,724 --> 00:51:16,195 EXTREMELY FATIGUED, DIFFICULTY WITH VISION, 1126 00:51:16,195 --> 00:51:19,731 LIGHT-HEADED, IRRITABLE. 1127 00:51:19,731 --> 00:51:23,936 IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT I TALK TO PLAYERS WHO HAD GONE THROUGH THE SAME PROBLEMS I HAD. 1128 00:51:23,936 --> 00:51:26,205 AND I, AT FIRST, I WAS HESITANT, 1129 00:51:26,205 --> 00:51:30,742 BUT THEN I FOUND SOME REAL COMFORT AND SOLACE 1130 00:51:30,742 --> 00:51:32,276 IN HEARING THEIR STORY 1131 00:51:32,276 --> 00:51:35,747 AND KNOWING THAT I WASN'T LOSING MY MIND, 1132 00:51:35,747 --> 00:51:37,816 THAT WHAT I WAS FEELING, 1133 00:51:37,816 --> 00:51:41,152 WHAT I WAS SUFFERING THROUGH WAS GENUINE. 1134 00:51:41,152 --> 00:51:42,820 I KNOW THAT I'VE DAMAGED MY BRAIN. 1135 00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:45,056 I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM 20 YEARS FROM NOW. 1136 00:51:45,056 --> 00:51:47,925 I NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE BRAVE 1137 00:51:47,925 --> 00:51:49,927 AND WORK TOWARDS THE END GOAL, 1138 00:51:49,927 --> 00:51:52,597 WHICH IS 100% RECOVERY. 1139 00:51:52,597 --> 00:51:58,068 COME ON, DON'T QUIT. DON'T QUIT. DON'T QUIT. 1140 00:51:58,068 --> 00:52:03,073 THERE YOU GO. ( laughs ) 1141 00:52:04,274 --> 00:52:06,510 ( crowd cheering ) 1142 00:52:06,510 --> 00:52:09,579 Announcer: USA WILL BEND IT ACROSS. 1143 00:52:09,579 --> 00:52:12,983 GOAL PARLOW! 1144 00:52:12,983 --> 00:52:16,586 Cindy Parlow Cone: I WAS 17, YOUNGEST PLAYER EVER 1145 00:52:16,586 --> 00:52:19,588 TO WIN AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL AND A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. 1146 00:52:19,588 --> 00:52:22,591 I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PLAY IN THREE OLYMPICS, 1147 00:52:22,591 --> 00:52:24,527 WINNING TWO GOLD MEDALS AND A SILVER. 1148 00:52:24,527 --> 00:52:28,764 ANNOUNCER: DRIVES IT ACROSS, CHASTAY, PARLOW, DOUBLE HEADER! 1149 00:52:28,764 --> 00:52:31,132 GOAL PARLOW! 1150 00:52:31,132 --> 00:52:33,536 I'M ALMOST SIX FEET TALL. 1151 00:52:33,536 --> 00:52:36,438 AND YOU CAN'T BE THIS TALL AND NOT COMPETE IN THE AIR. 1152 00:52:36,438 --> 00:52:39,675 I SCORED 50% OF MY GOALS WITH MY HEAD. 1153 00:52:39,675 --> 00:52:43,144 YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT FOOTBALL AND HEAD INJURIES, 1154 00:52:43,144 --> 00:52:45,146 BUT A NEW STUDY SHOWS THAT SOCCER 1155 00:52:45,146 --> 00:52:46,414 MAY COME WITH SOME RISKS, TOO. 1156 00:52:46,414 --> 00:52:48,416 Alan Schwarz: GIRL SOCCER PLAYERS 1157 00:52:48,416 --> 00:52:52,420 REPORT CONCUSSIONS MORE OFTEN THAN BOY SOCCER PLAYERS. 1158 00:52:52,420 --> 00:52:53,955 SAME AS BASKETBALL. 1159 00:52:53,955 --> 00:52:57,825 AND THEY ALSO SEEM TO RECOVER MORE SLOWLY THAN BOYS. 1160 00:52:57,825 --> 00:53:00,528 SO THIS WAS NOT JUST A BOYS' FOOTBALL INJURY. 1161 00:53:00,528 --> 00:53:02,429 Announcer: WE TOLD YOU HOW ROUGH IT IS. 1162 00:53:02,429 --> 00:53:04,732 WATCH THE TUGGING, THE PUSHING, THE GRABBING, THE KICKING. 1163 00:53:04,732 --> 00:53:06,266 ALL THE FOULS... 1164 00:53:06,266 --> 00:53:08,735 Cindy: FROM HEAD TO TOE, IT'S A CONTACT SPORT. 1165 00:53:08,735 --> 00:53:10,237 Announcer: ROUGH STUFF. 1166 00:53:10,237 --> 00:53:11,805 IN 2001, I WAS PLAYING 1167 00:53:11,805 --> 00:53:13,774 FOR THE WOMEN'S UNITED SOCCER ASSOCIATION. 1168 00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:15,742 MY POOR PARENTS WERE WATCHING THE GAME 1169 00:53:15,742 --> 00:53:17,778 ON TV AT HOME IN MEMPHIS 1170 00:53:17,778 --> 00:53:19,980 AND THEY SEE ME, I GO UP FOR A HEADER 1171 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:23,050 AND ACTUALLY ONE OF MY OWN TEAMMATES HITS ME IN THE TEMPLE. 1172 00:53:23,050 --> 00:53:26,319 Announcer 1: HOOPER! AND TWO PLAYERS ARE DOWN. 1173 00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:28,321 IS THAT PARLOW? PARLOW AND HOOPER. 1174 00:53:28,321 --> 00:53:29,589 Announcer 2: I THINK THEY HIT HEADS. 1175 00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:30,924 I DON'T REMEMBER GETTING HIT. 1176 00:53:30,924 --> 00:53:33,192 I REMEMBER WATCHING THE BALL COME TO MY HEAD 1177 00:53:33,192 --> 00:53:34,760 AND I WAS TRYING TO TIME IT CORRECTLY 1178 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,862 AND THEN THE NEXT THING, EVERYONE STANDING OVER ME, 1179 00:53:36,862 --> 00:53:38,664 SEEING IF I'M OKAY. 1180 00:53:38,664 --> 00:53:40,533 Announcer: BALLS IN THE AIR, THEY'RE BOTH TRYING TO HEAD IT. 1181 00:53:40,533 --> 00:53:43,669 NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, THEY ABSOLUTELY CLOCKED EACH OTHER. 1182 00:53:43,669 --> 00:53:46,005 NOW BOTH PLAYERS HAVE GOT TO BE SHOOK UP... 1183 00:53:46,005 --> 00:53:49,474 AND SO I ACTUALLY CONTINUED TO PLAY UNTIL HALF TIME. 1184 00:53:49,474 --> 00:53:51,743 Announcer: SHE'S WOOZY, THOUGH, YOU CAN SEE IT. 1185 00:53:51,743 --> 00:53:54,179 SHE'S ABLE TO SMILE, BUT I TELL YA... 1186 00:53:54,179 --> 00:53:55,981 I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE BIG DEAL WAS. 1187 00:53:55,981 --> 00:53:58,149 A COUPLE DAYS AFTER, THE HEADACHE WAS GONE, 1188 00:53:58,149 --> 00:54:00,251 I DIDN'T HAVE TOO MANY SYMPTOMS, 1189 00:54:00,251 --> 00:54:02,119 AND I WANTED TO GET BACK AT IT. 1190 00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:03,488 KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW, 1191 00:54:03,488 --> 00:54:05,490 I AM SO THANKFUL THAT THEY SAT ME OUT 1192 00:54:05,490 --> 00:54:07,025 AND WOULDN'T LET ME PLAY. 1193 00:54:07,025 --> 00:54:10,427 AFTER MY FIRST CONCUSSION WHERE I WAS KNOCKED OUT, 1194 00:54:10,427 --> 00:54:13,364 EVERY TIME I WOULD DO HEADING IN PRACTICE 1195 00:54:13,364 --> 00:54:15,666 OR IA REALLY HARD HEADER IN THE GAME, I WOULD SEE STARS. 1196 00:54:15,666 --> 00:54:17,968 SO, SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER THAT CONCUSSION. 1197 00:54:17,968 --> 00:54:20,537 I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT IF YOU COUNT ALL THOSE, 1198 00:54:20,537 --> 00:54:22,171 WE'RE TALKING TRIPLE DIGITS. 1199 00:54:22,171 --> 00:54:27,111 Steve: WAIT, SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAD OVER 100 CONCUSSIONS 1200 00:54:27,111 --> 00:54:28,979 WHERE YOU SAW STARS OF SOME SORT? 1201 00:54:28,979 --> 00:54:30,613 Cindy: OH, YEAH, AT LEAST. 1202 00:54:30,613 --> 00:54:35,518 I'VE SEEN A LOT OF STARS. ( laughs ) 1203 00:54:35,518 --> 00:54:38,655 I REMEMBER WHEN I TOLD MY PARENTS 1204 00:54:38,655 --> 00:54:40,456 THAT I WAS RETIRING IN 2004 1205 00:54:40,456 --> 00:54:42,492 BECAUSE OF MY POST-CONCUSSION SYNDROME. 1206 00:54:42,492 --> 00:54:45,762 THEY WERE ACTUALLY ANGRY AND DISAPPOINTED A LITTLE BIT, 1207 00:54:45,762 --> 00:54:48,798 IN ME, AND THAT I WANTED TO RETIRE. 1208 00:54:48,798 --> 00:54:52,802 I THINK THEY FELT LIKE I WAS JUST QUITTING. 1209 00:54:52,802 --> 00:54:55,537 I WOULD RATHER THEM THINK THAT THAN TO REALLY KNOW THE TRUTH 1210 00:54:55,537 --> 00:54:57,106 AND WHAT'S BEHIND IT. 1211 00:54:57,106 --> 00:54:58,540 THEY KNOW ABOUT MY HEADACHES, 1212 00:54:58,540 --> 00:55:01,144 THEY KNOW OBVIOUSLY ABOUT ALL THE MEDICATIONS 1213 00:55:01,144 --> 00:55:02,678 THAT I'VE BEEN ON TO PREVENT THEM, 1214 00:55:02,678 --> 00:55:04,813 BUT I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY KNOW 1215 00:55:04,813 --> 00:55:08,083 HOW MUCH IT INTERRUPTS WITH MY DAILY LIFE. 1216 00:55:08,083 --> 00:55:11,019 I ALWAYS KEEP MY GPS ON. 1217 00:55:11,019 --> 00:55:14,022 I'LL BE DRIVING AROUND ROADS I KNOW BY HEART 1218 00:55:14,022 --> 00:55:16,223 AND FORGET WHERE I AM. 1219 00:55:16,223 --> 00:55:18,359 HAD A STUTTER FOR A LITTLE BIT. 1220 00:55:18,359 --> 00:55:21,929 I'M GONNA WORRY MY FAMILY NOW TELLING YOU ALL THIS. ( laughs ) 1221 00:55:21,929 --> 00:55:24,899 MY PARENTS DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL THIS, RIGHT? 1222 00:55:24,899 --> 00:55:26,701 ♪ 1223 00:55:26,701 --> 00:55:29,770 WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG, PARENTS TRY TO PROTECT THE KIDS. 1224 00:55:29,770 --> 00:55:31,772 ( whistle blows ) 1225 00:55:31,772 --> 00:55:32,940 OUCH! 1226 00:55:32,940 --> 00:55:36,309 AND AT SOME POINT, IT'S ROLE-REVERSAL. 1227 00:55:38,846 --> 00:55:41,715 Laura Rounce: SOCCER'S BEEN IN HER LIFE AND IN OUR LIFE 1228 00:55:41,715 --> 00:55:45,285 SINCE SHE WAS ABOUT 6 MONTHS OLD. 1229 00:55:45,285 --> 00:55:50,255 Mary Rounce: I WANT TO PLAY DIVISION 1 COLLEGE SOCCER. 1230 00:55:50,255 --> 00:55:52,926 I MEAN, IF I GOT DRAFTED, THAT'D BE PRETTY COOL. 1231 00:55:52,926 --> 00:55:54,460 ( laughs ) 1232 00:55:54,460 --> 00:55:56,863 Laura Rounce: UNFORTUNATELY, 1233 00:55:56,863 --> 00:55:58,630 BECAUSE SHE'S SUCH AN AGGRESSIVE PLAYER, 1234 00:55:58,630 --> 00:56:03,069 SHE HAS NOT ONLY GOTTEN ONE CONCUSSION, 1235 00:56:03,069 --> 00:56:05,471 BUT PROBABLY FOUR. 1236 00:56:05,471 --> 00:56:07,606 Mary Rounce: I REMEMBER AFTER THE FIRST ONE, 1237 00:56:07,606 --> 00:56:10,142 I WAS JUST LIKE, "OH, MY GOD, MY HEAD HURTS SO BAD." 1238 00:56:10,142 --> 00:56:12,344 AND I WENT TO TAKE A GOAL KICK, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T GO OUT, 1239 00:56:12,344 --> 00:56:14,345 I DIDN'T WANT TO STOP PLAYING, 1240 00:56:14,345 --> 00:56:16,615 SO I WENT TO TAKE THE KICK AND I WAS LIKE, 1241 00:56:16,615 --> 00:56:19,617 I WAS LIKE SEEING DOUBLE AND STUFF, SO... 1242 00:56:19,617 --> 00:56:22,087 Laura Rounce: YOU JUST HEARD HER SAY IT HURT REALLY BAD, 1243 00:56:22,087 --> 00:56:23,488 SHE HAD DOUBLE VISION, 1244 00:56:23,488 --> 00:56:25,090 SHE DIDN'T PULL HERSELF OUT OF THE GAME, 1245 00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:28,459 SHE DIDN'T TELL THE COACH, AND SHE DIDN'T TELL US. 1246 00:56:31,329 --> 00:56:35,233 Mary Rounce: I DON'T WANNA QUIT BECAUSE OF INJURIES. 1247 00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:37,568 IT'S JUST WHAT I LOVE TO DO. 1248 00:56:37,568 --> 00:56:40,772 I CAN'T JUST, LIKE, DROP IT. 1249 00:56:40,772 --> 00:56:42,940 SHE'S PRETTY GOOD AT BEING TOUGH. 1250 00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:46,144 SO IF IT'S "I CAN'T TELL MY MOM 'CAUSE THEN I'M DONE," 1251 00:56:46,144 --> 00:56:50,981 SHE MIGHT NOT TELL ME. RIGHT? 1252 00:56:50,981 --> 00:56:56,553 ( choir singing ) 1253 00:57:12,935 --> 00:57:15,805 THERE IS A CONCEPT OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE. 1254 00:57:15,805 --> 00:57:19,275 SOME OF US DEAL WITH DISEASE, 1255 00:57:19,275 --> 00:57:22,978 ILLNESS, HARDSHIP, OR HEARTACHE. 1256 00:57:22,978 --> 00:57:26,982 WE GRIEVE THE LOSS OF THOSE WHOM WE HAVE LOVED. 1257 00:57:26,982 --> 00:57:31,987 WHEN HE WAS BORN, HE CAME OUT JUST SCREAMING... 1258 00:57:31,987 --> 00:57:34,722 AND SO MUCH SO THAT HE HAD TWO VEINS HERE 1259 00:57:34,722 --> 00:57:37,725 THAT WERE JUST OUT... 1260 00:57:37,725 --> 00:57:42,564 RED HAIR, AND THE DOCTOR SAID, "HE'S A VIKING." 1261 00:57:42,564 --> 00:57:44,566 AND THAT'S OWEN: 1262 00:57:44,566 --> 00:57:46,768 A VIKING FULL OF PASSION. 1263 00:57:46,768 --> 00:57:50,038 News anchor: OFFICIALS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA 1264 00:57:50,038 --> 00:57:52,173 SAY A FOOTBALL PLAYER FROM LEHIGH COUNTY 1265 00:57:52,173 --> 00:57:55,375 WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS OFF-CAMPUS APARTMENT. 1266 00:57:55,375 --> 00:57:56,844 JUNIOR OWEN THOMAS, 1267 00:57:56,844 --> 00:57:58,445 WHO GRADUATED FROM PARKLAND HIGH SCHOOL, 1268 00:57:58,445 --> 00:58:00,013 WAS FOUND YESTERDAY... 1269 00:58:00,013 --> 00:58:02,348 Eric Laudano: THERE WAS NOTHING LEADING UP TO HIS SUICIDE, 1270 00:58:02,348 --> 00:58:04,218 AS FAR AS I CAN SEE. 1271 00:58:04,218 --> 00:58:08,421 HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE STUDENT AT AN INCREDIBLE UNIVERSITY, 1272 00:58:08,421 --> 00:58:09,823 ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD, 1273 00:58:09,823 --> 00:58:12,558 AND HE WAS CONSTANTLY SURROUNDED BY FRIENDS. 1274 00:58:14,727 --> 00:58:17,730 HE PLAYED DEFENSE AND HE WAS AN AGGRESSIVE PLAYER 1275 00:58:17,730 --> 00:58:21,601 AND HE WAS VOTED CAPTAIN OF OUR TEAM. 1276 00:58:21,601 --> 00:58:24,670 AND OWEN WAS A PERSON ON OUR TEAM 1277 00:58:24,670 --> 00:58:26,639 THAT EVERYONE LOOKED UP TO, 1278 00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:29,976 AND IT HIT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HARD. 1279 00:58:29,976 --> 00:58:32,477 AND IT STILL DOES TODAY. 1280 00:58:32,477 --> 00:58:34,479 Chris: YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THESE THINGS, 1281 00:58:34,479 --> 00:58:38,516 MY JOB IS TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEIR BRAIN. 1282 00:58:38,516 --> 00:58:41,119 FOR ME, IT WAS A SPECIAL CASE. 1283 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,622 THIS WAS AN IVY LEAGUE DEFENSIVE LINEMAN, 1284 00:58:43,622 --> 00:58:45,790 AND I WAS AN IVY LEAGUE DEFENSIVE LINEMAN. 1285 00:58:45,790 --> 00:58:48,693 IT WAS LIKE LOSING ONE OF YOUR OWN. 1286 00:58:48,693 --> 00:58:50,862 SO I TALKED TO HIM QUITE EXTENSIVELY ON THE PHONE 1287 00:58:50,862 --> 00:58:54,132 AND I SAID, "YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ANYTHING 1288 00:58:54,132 --> 00:58:57,035 BECAUSE HE NEVER HAD ANY DOCUMENTED CONCUSSION." 1289 00:58:57,035 --> 00:58:59,304 THAT'S FINE. I SAID, "I HOPE WE DON'T FIND IT." 1290 00:58:59,304 --> 00:59:01,438 FRANKLY, I'D LOVE TO NOT FIND IT IN MORE BRAINS 1291 00:59:01,438 --> 00:59:04,508 BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST EVERY BRAIN WE GET, WE FIND IT. 1292 00:59:04,508 --> 00:59:06,644 ♪ 1293 00:59:10,915 --> 00:59:12,650 Jeffrey Geisel: OWEN WAS AN OUTSTANDING PERSON, 1294 00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:15,652 AN OUTSTANDING ATHLETE. 1295 00:59:15,652 --> 00:59:18,055 OWEN GRADUATED THE YEAR BEFORE WE WENT 1296 00:59:18,055 --> 00:59:21,658 TO OUR SECOND STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 1297 00:59:21,658 --> 00:59:23,059 I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT OWEN 1298 00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:25,662 WASN'T DIAGNOSED WITH A CONCUSSION. 1299 00:59:25,662 --> 00:59:28,399 HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TAKEN BLOWS TO THE HEAD. 1300 00:59:28,399 --> 00:59:30,800 ( whistle blows ) 1301 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,302 WE'RE NOT PLAYING HARD ENOUGH YET. 1302 00:59:32,302 --> 00:59:34,070 WE ARE NOT PLAYING HARD ENOUGH. 1303 00:59:34,070 --> 00:59:36,605 Dr. Cantu: THE REALITY IS THAT ANYBODY THAT'S PLAYED FOOTBALL 1304 00:59:36,605 --> 00:59:42,145 HAS HAD CONCUSSIONS, WHETHER THEY'VE RECOGNIZED IT OR NOT. 1305 00:59:42,145 --> 00:59:46,416 Morgan Thomas: BOTH OF US DEFINITELY GOT OUR BELL RUNG. 1306 00:59:46,416 --> 00:59:49,551 YOU GET UP AND EVERYTHING'S LIKE A DIFFERENT COLOR AT FIRST, 1307 00:59:49,551 --> 00:59:51,586 AND THEN IT TAKES YOU A COUPLE MINUTES 1308 00:59:51,586 --> 00:59:53,855 TO KIND OF GET BACK IN FOCUS. 1309 00:59:53,855 --> 00:59:55,757 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONCUSSION. 1310 00:59:55,757 --> 00:59:58,427 I'VE NEVER HAD A CONCUSSION WHERE I WAS PULLED OUT OF FOOTBALL. 1311 00:59:58,427 --> 01:00:02,297 ( siren wails ) 1312 01:00:02,297 --> 01:00:05,367 I MEAN, OWEN AND I WERE SIMILAR IN THIS ASPECT: 1313 01:00:05,367 --> 01:00:08,102 IF WE DID HAVE A HEAD RINGER, 1314 01:00:08,102 --> 01:00:09,971 WE WOULD NOT GO REPORT THAT TO THE TRAINER. 1315 01:00:09,971 --> 01:00:11,706 YOU KNOW, WE'D GET UP AND SHAKE IT OFF, 1316 01:00:11,706 --> 01:00:13,375 AND JUST GET BACK OUT THERE AND PLAY. 1317 01:00:13,375 --> 01:00:17,111 Jeffrey Geisel: LAST YEAR AT PARKLAND SCHOOL DISTRICT, 1318 01:00:17,111 --> 01:00:20,881 ACROSS ALL SPORTS, WE HAD 1,600 KIDS. 1319 01:00:20,881 --> 01:00:23,783 WE HAD 14 RECORDED INCIDENTS OF CONCUSSION. 1320 01:00:23,783 --> 01:00:29,656 Steve: 1,600 KIDS, 14 DIAGNOSED CONCUSSIONS DURING THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. 1321 01:00:29,656 --> 01:00:34,395 WELL, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY UNDER-DIAGNOSED CONDITION. 1322 01:00:34,395 --> 01:00:38,598 Chris: IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OUT OF EVERY HUNDRED KIDS 1323 01:00:38,598 --> 01:00:40,599 THAT ARE GETTING DIAGNOSED WITH CONCUSSION, 1324 01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:41,868 YOU'RE MISSING THEM 1325 01:00:41,868 --> 01:00:44,137 AND YOUR KIDS ARE AT TERRIBLE RISK. 1326 01:00:44,137 --> 01:00:47,606 WE DO THIS RIGHT AND WE START EDUCATING THE ATHLETES, 1327 01:00:47,606 --> 01:00:49,608 IT'S GOING TO SKY-ROCKET. 1328 01:00:53,145 --> 01:00:55,147 Dr. McKee: THIS IS OWEN THOMAS' BRAIN. 1329 01:00:55,147 --> 01:00:57,082 THIS IS A PART OF THE FRONTAL LOBE. 1330 01:00:57,082 --> 01:01:01,320 THERE'S THESE VERY DARK AREAS OF DISCOLORATION IN HIS BRAIN, 1331 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,289 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE SPOTS UNDER THE MICROSCOPE, 1332 01:01:04,289 --> 01:01:07,026 THERE'S JUST TREMENDOUS RINGING AROUND THOSE AREAS 1333 01:01:07,026 --> 01:01:10,496 OF NERVE CELLS CONTAINING THIS TAO PROTEIN. 1334 01:01:10,496 --> 01:01:12,764 THIS IS VERY DRAMATIC DISEASE, 1335 01:01:12,764 --> 01:01:14,899 AND WHAT WE KNOW FROM OTHER BRAINS 1336 01:01:14,899 --> 01:01:18,636 IS THAT IF HE HAD LIVED LONGER, THE DISEASE GRADUALLY WOULD HAVE 1337 01:01:18,636 --> 01:01:20,938 SPREAD OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORING CORTEX. 1338 01:01:20,938 --> 01:01:22,440 ONCE THE FIRE HAS STARTED, 1339 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,944 IT JUST GOES ON ITS OWN WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL INSULT. 1340 01:01:26,944 --> 01:01:30,415 SO WHEN THE RESULTS CAME THROUGH, 1341 01:01:30,415 --> 01:01:32,216 I CAN'T SAY IT WAS A RELIEF, 1342 01:01:32,216 --> 01:01:36,820 BUT IT WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, THERE IS THE REASON, 1343 01:01:36,820 --> 01:01:40,090 RIGHT THERE, THAT OWEN WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE. 1344 01:01:40,090 --> 01:01:43,994 THE FACT THAT THEY FOUND IT IN THE FRONTAL LOBE OF HIS BRAIN 1345 01:01:43,994 --> 01:01:46,229 THAT CONTROLS IMPULSE-CONTROL, 1346 01:01:46,229 --> 01:01:50,200 I THINK, IT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT FACTOR. 1347 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,670 I DON'T THINK THAT WE KNOW WHETHER THE CHANGES 1348 01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:58,341 THAT WERE IN HIS BRAIN, WHICH WERE QUITE, UM... 1349 01:01:58,341 --> 01:02:01,677 THEY WERE DEFINITELY ABNORMAL, NO QUESTION, 1350 01:02:01,677 --> 01:02:04,080 BUT WHETHER THEY EXPLAIN 1351 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,949 THE ULTIMATE BEHAVIOR THAT HAPPENED, 1352 01:02:06,949 --> 01:02:08,717 IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION. 1353 01:02:08,717 --> 01:02:11,287 THE OWEN THOMAS FINDING WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT... 1354 01:02:11,287 --> 01:02:14,090 AS IT RELATED TO THE CAUSE OF DEATH. 1355 01:02:14,090 --> 01:02:16,559 HE COULD HAVE DIED IN A CAR ACCIDENT 1356 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,094 AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE FINDING 1357 01:02:19,094 --> 01:02:21,996 WOULD HAVE BEEN EXACTLY THE SAME. 1358 01:02:21,996 --> 01:02:25,733 OKAY? IT WAS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE, 1359 01:02:25,733 --> 01:02:29,137 HOLY COW, CTE CAN ACTUALLY BEGIN 1360 01:02:29,137 --> 01:02:33,541 BEFORE SOMEBODY REACHES THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. 1361 01:02:33,541 --> 01:02:35,510 AND THAT'S THE MORE IMPORTANT POINT HERE, 1362 01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:38,246 IS THAT 21-YEAR-OLDS SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS FROM PLAYING A GAME. 1363 01:02:47,121 --> 01:02:49,857 ALL RIGHT, MOM, LOVE YOU, BYE. 1364 01:02:49,857 --> 01:02:52,059 Phone: END OF MESSAGE. 1365 01:02:52,059 --> 01:02:53,994 ( beeps ) 1366 01:02:53,994 --> 01:02:59,665 THAT MESSAGE IS FROM THE DAY BEFORE HE, UM, KILLED HIMSELF. 1367 01:02:59,665 --> 01:03:02,735 I USED TO LISTEN TO IT LIKE EVERY DAY, ALL THE TIME. 1368 01:03:02,735 --> 01:03:04,137 AND I DON'T LISTEN TO IT EVERY DAY, 1369 01:03:04,137 --> 01:03:05,872 BUT IT'S--IT'S SORT OF... 1370 01:03:05,872 --> 01:03:07,874 IT'S JUST LIKE CARRYING HIM AROUND WITH ME. 1371 01:03:07,874 --> 01:03:10,544 IT'S NICE TO HEAR THAT VOICE. 1372 01:03:10,544 --> 01:03:13,613 YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU JUST HANG ON TO LITTLE THINGS. 1373 01:03:13,613 --> 01:03:17,649 AND YOU KNOW, HANG ON, HANG ON. 1374 01:03:20,186 --> 01:03:22,854 ♪ 1375 01:03:24,290 --> 01:03:28,494 MY FATHER PLAYED AT MILLERSVILLE IN THE '30s. 1376 01:03:28,494 --> 01:03:30,028 I PLAYED AT VIRGINIA, 1377 01:03:30,028 --> 01:03:32,565 UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA IN THE '60s. 1378 01:03:32,565 --> 01:03:36,168 SO IT WAS KIND OF OUR FAMILY GAME. 1379 01:03:36,168 --> 01:03:38,904 AND OVER HERE IS OWEN'S GRAVE. 1380 01:03:43,175 --> 01:03:47,312 I DON'T COME OFTEN, ALTHOUGH I WORK JUST A STEP AWAY. 1381 01:03:47,312 --> 01:03:52,316 I DON'T COME OFTEN BECAUSE IT'S STILL VERY DIFFICULT. 1382 01:03:59,456 --> 01:04:04,061 THE ASSOCIATE PASTOR THAT DID THE WHOLE SERVICE AND I... 1383 01:04:04,061 --> 01:04:05,795 I COULD JUST BARELY MAKE IT THROUGH THE SERVICE. 1384 01:04:05,795 --> 01:04:07,864 SO I JUST SAT IN THE FAMILY PEW. 1385 01:04:07,864 --> 01:04:11,868 IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SERVICE. 1386 01:04:11,868 --> 01:04:15,071 ALL OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM WENT UP TO THE BALCONY, 1387 01:04:15,071 --> 01:04:18,074 AND THEY LINED THE BALCONY STANDING, 1388 01:04:18,074 --> 01:04:23,947 AND IT WAS A SENSE OF CAMARADERIE, 1389 01:04:23,947 --> 01:04:28,817 A TEAMMATE, I GUESS, STANDING FOR THEIR CAPTAIN. 1390 01:04:28,817 --> 01:04:32,322 IT WAS VERY, VERY MOVING TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT. 1391 01:04:34,289 --> 01:04:37,092 ( bell ringing ) 1392 01:04:50,071 --> 01:04:52,073 ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST THING IS I'M GONNA HAVE YOU 1393 01:04:52,073 --> 01:04:53,774 TAKE EVERYTHING METAL THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR BODY-- 1394 01:04:53,774 --> 01:04:56,944 YOUR BELT, ANYTHING YOU HAVE ON YOUR WATCH, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 1395 01:04:56,944 --> 01:04:58,246 HAVE YOU HAD AN MRI BEFORE? 1396 01:04:58,246 --> 01:05:01,182 OH, MANY. OKAY, SO YOU KNOW THE DRILL. 1397 01:05:01,182 --> 01:05:04,919 I'M ONE OF OUR GUINEA PIGS FOR ALL OF OUR PILOT STUDIES. 1398 01:05:04,919 --> 01:05:07,488 AND SO I'LL GET AN MRI, A DTI... 1399 01:05:07,488 --> 01:05:08,788 EXCELLENT. 1400 01:05:08,788 --> 01:05:10,790 YOU KNOW, ME ALONG WITH SOME NFL GUYS 1401 01:05:10,790 --> 01:05:12,426 AND SOME BOXERS AND WHATEVER, WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT 1402 01:05:12,426 --> 01:05:14,595 WHAT CTE LOOKS LIKE IN A LIVING PERSON. 1403 01:05:14,595 --> 01:05:16,530 ALL RIGHT, GOING IN. 1404 01:05:16,530 --> 01:05:19,299 Dr. Stern: YOU CAN ONLY DIAGNOSE THESE TYPES OF DISEASES 1405 01:05:19,299 --> 01:05:22,302 AFTER SOMEONE DIES BY LOOKING AT THE BRAIN TISSUE, 1406 01:05:22,302 --> 01:05:25,740 BUT THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE DISEASE 1407 01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:27,307 WHILE SOMEONE'S ALIVE, 1408 01:05:27,307 --> 01:05:30,076 BECAUSE ONLY THEN CAN WE DO THINGS LIKE 1409 01:05:30,076 --> 01:05:31,944 FIGURE OUT THE TRUE RISK FACTORS, 1410 01:05:31,944 --> 01:05:34,481 CREATE TREATMENT PROTOCOLS, 1411 01:05:34,481 --> 01:05:36,849 CONDUCT CLINICAL TRIALS OF NEW DRUGS. 1412 01:05:36,849 --> 01:05:42,921 Dr. Cantu: UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE CTE IS SO HORRIFIC, 1413 01:05:42,921 --> 01:05:45,424 AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO CURE FOR IT, 1414 01:05:45,424 --> 01:05:50,029 THE MEDIA HYPE ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS HERE 1415 01:05:50,029 --> 01:05:51,430 AND THE CONCERN IS HERE. 1416 01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:53,132 TRAGICALLY, THE SCIENCE ABOUT IT 1417 01:05:53,132 --> 01:05:55,900 IS WAY DOWN LOWER ON A TRAJECTORY. 1418 01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:57,369 THERE'S A HUGE GAP. 1419 01:05:57,369 --> 01:05:59,405 TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURIES AND CONCUSSIONS 1420 01:05:59,405 --> 01:06:02,741 ARE A FAR MORE SERIOUS ISSUE THAN ANY OF US REALIZED... 1421 01:06:02,741 --> 01:06:04,008 I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AT 1422 01:06:04,008 --> 01:06:05,644 A HIGH SCHOOL TO PARENTS AND COACHES 1423 01:06:05,644 --> 01:06:08,079 TO RAISE CONCUSSION AWARENESS. 1424 01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:10,748 IT WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS 1425 01:06:10,748 --> 01:06:13,618 THAT I HAD SOMEBODY ACTUALLY CONFRONT ME IN PUBLIC. 1426 01:06:13,618 --> 01:06:15,852 Man: YOU SURE SCARED A LOT OF PEOPLE TONIGHT, OKAY? 1427 01:06:15,852 --> 01:06:18,723 IT WASN'T A PARENT, IT WAS THE HEAD ATHLETIC TRAINER. 1428 01:06:18,723 --> 01:06:22,460 Man: YOU CAME HERE AND YOU TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE PEOPLE WHOSE BRAINS ARE DECAYING. 1429 01:06:22,460 --> 01:06:26,063 AND WHAT YOU DIDN'T SHOW IS, THERE'S A HECK OF A LOT OF PEOPLE 1430 01:06:26,063 --> 01:06:29,299 THAT PLAYED BALL THAT DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS. OKAY? 1431 01:06:29,299 --> 01:06:31,201 THAT DON'T HAVE THIS POST-CONCUSSION SYNDROME. 1432 01:06:31,201 --> 01:06:34,538 YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... 1433 01:06:34,538 --> 01:06:36,640 NO, THAT'S RIGHT, I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE 1434 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,375 WHO SMOKE AND DON'T GET LUNG CANCER. 1435 01:06:38,375 --> 01:06:39,942 I MEAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, 1436 01:06:39,942 --> 01:06:41,578 THAT'S A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE ARGUMENT 1437 01:06:41,578 --> 01:06:43,680 WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND THEIR BRAIN 1438 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,082 AND THE RISKS THAT WE SHOULD BE EXPOSING KIDS TO. 1439 01:06:46,082 --> 01:06:47,617 BUT THEN IT WENT FURTHER AND HE SAID, 1440 01:06:47,617 --> 01:06:49,218 "WELL, YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE SYMPTOMS. 1441 01:06:49,218 --> 01:06:51,755 "MY 10-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER PLAYS SOCCER 1442 01:06:51,755 --> 01:06:54,490 "AND SHE COMES OFF THE FIELD AND COMPLAINS OF DIZZINESS 1443 01:06:54,490 --> 01:06:56,692 "AND HEADACHES AFTER HEADING THE BALL. 1444 01:06:56,692 --> 01:06:58,361 "BUT THAT'S NOT A CONCUSSION. 1445 01:06:58,361 --> 01:07:00,429 THAT'S JUST PART OF PLAYING THE GAME." 1446 01:07:00,429 --> 01:07:02,198 IF YOUR CHILD HAS CONCUSSION SYMPTOMS 1447 01:07:02,198 --> 01:07:03,532 FROM HEADING A SOCCER BALL, THAT'S A CONCUSSION. 1448 01:07:03,532 --> 01:07:05,166 I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ASKED ME THAT QUESTION. 1449 01:07:05,166 --> 01:07:08,903 I MEAN, ARE YOU SERIOUS?! 1450 01:07:08,903 --> 01:07:10,438 I WOULDN'T PUSH TOO FAR. 1451 01:07:10,438 --> 01:07:12,340 I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOUR JOB RIGHT NOW. 1452 01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:15,210 IT WASN'T JUST THE HEAD ATHLETIC TRAINER THAT HAD THIS PROBLEM. 1453 01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:17,779 I WAS INFORMED THAT THE FOOTBALL COACH 1454 01:07:17,779 --> 01:07:20,448 HAD SCHEDULED A MANDATORY WEIGHT-LIFTING SESSION 1455 01:07:20,448 --> 01:07:23,984 TO MAKES SURE HIS PLAYERS COULDN'T GO TO THE SYMPOSIUM. 1456 01:07:23,984 --> 01:07:26,120 AND WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? 1457 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,155 Man: I DON'T KNOW. 1458 01:07:28,155 --> 01:07:29,390 I'M GONNA GO BACK TO BOSTON. 1459 01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:33,127 YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP IN THAT ROOM. 1460 01:07:33,127 --> 01:07:35,262 Alan Schwarz: WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT 1461 01:07:35,262 --> 01:07:39,166 HAPPENS PRIVATELY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ALL THE TIME. 1462 01:07:39,166 --> 01:07:41,168 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE 1463 01:07:41,168 --> 01:07:43,537 THIS IS AS SERIOUS AS IT IS, 1464 01:07:43,537 --> 01:07:48,107 EVEN PEOPLE WHOSE JOBS IT IS TO SAFEGUARD CHILDREN'S HEALTH. 1465 01:07:48,107 --> 01:07:50,042 THEY DON'T WANNA BELIEVE IT EITHER. 1466 01:07:50,042 --> 01:07:53,312 Chris: A GROUP OF PARENTS FOLLOWED ME OUT 1467 01:07:53,312 --> 01:07:55,982 AND SOME OF THEM ASKED, "MY CHILD PLAYS FOOTBALL HERE, 1468 01:07:55,982 --> 01:07:59,285 HE HAD A CONCUSSION LAST YEAR. WOULD YOU LET HIM GO BACK?" 1469 01:07:59,285 --> 01:08:01,287 HOPEFULLY, IF YOU ONLY PLAY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, 1470 01:08:01,287 --> 01:08:04,257 YOUR RISK IS LESS, BUT IT'S THERE. 1471 01:08:04,257 --> 01:08:06,057 Alan Schwarz: THERE ARE PEOPLE 1472 01:08:06,057 --> 01:08:08,327 WHO HAVE SAID THAT 1473 01:08:08,327 --> 01:08:11,330 BECAUSE 14 OUT OF 15 NFL PLAYERS 1474 01:08:11,330 --> 01:08:15,868 WHO HAVE BEEN TESTED FOR CTE HAVE HAD CTE, MY GOD, 1475 01:08:15,868 --> 01:08:19,070 THAT MUST MEAN THAT ALMOST EVERY RETIRED FOOTBALL PLAYER 1476 01:08:19,070 --> 01:08:21,239 HAS CTE OR WILL GET IT! 1477 01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:24,042 WELL, NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. 1478 01:08:24,042 --> 01:08:26,178 IT'S A VERY SELECTIVE SAMPLE. 1479 01:08:29,281 --> 01:08:32,016 AS PART OF A BRAIN BANK, WE STORE HALF OF THE BRAIN 1480 01:08:32,016 --> 01:08:34,886 AT MINUS 80 IN EACH FREEZER, 1481 01:08:34,886 --> 01:08:36,822 AND WE HAVE 7 FREEZERS. 1482 01:08:36,822 --> 01:08:40,792 Dr. Cantu: WE'VE GOTTEN NOW OVER 70 BRAINS IN THE BRAIN BANK 1483 01:08:40,792 --> 01:08:42,460 AND THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY 1484 01:08:42,460 --> 01:08:44,962 HAVE HAD CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY. 1485 01:08:44,962 --> 01:08:47,631 WE NEED 30 BRAINS OF PEOPLE 1486 01:08:47,631 --> 01:08:50,734 THAT PLAYED THE SAME SPORT THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE SYMPTOMS. 1487 01:08:50,734 --> 01:08:53,437 THEIR BRAIN WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE TO STUDY. 1488 01:08:53,437 --> 01:08:55,606 AND UNTIL WE DO, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE 1489 01:08:55,606 --> 01:09:00,210 ANY GOOD IDEA OF THE INCIDENCE OR PREVALENCE OF THIS CTE. 1490 01:09:00,210 --> 01:09:04,347 WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT 14 OF THE FIRST 15 NFL PLAYERS 1491 01:09:04,347 --> 01:09:06,516 THAT WE STUDIED HAD CTE. 1492 01:09:06,516 --> 01:09:08,618 IN SOME PEOPLE, IT WASN'T SO FAR PROGRESSED 1493 01:09:08,618 --> 01:09:12,822 THAT THEY HAD MEMORY PROBLEMS OR IMPULSE CONTROL, 1494 01:09:12,822 --> 01:09:14,189 BUT HAD THEY LIVED LONGER, 1495 01:09:14,189 --> 01:09:15,991 THEY ALMOST CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE. 1496 01:09:15,991 --> 01:09:17,393 THAT'S OVERSTATING THE DATA, 1497 01:09:17,393 --> 01:09:20,062 AND IT'S LEADING TO A CONCLUSION 1498 01:09:20,062 --> 01:09:23,198 FOR WHICH WE DON'T HAVE SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT RIGHT NOW. 1499 01:09:23,198 --> 01:09:25,567 TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THIS ATHLETE EXHIBITED CTE, 1500 01:09:25,567 --> 01:09:30,239 THAT THAT DETERMINES THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE DEMENTIA 1501 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,841 AND HAVE DEPRESSION AND COMMIT SUICIDE, 1502 01:09:32,841 --> 01:09:35,177 IT'S JUST NOT THERE. 1503 01:09:35,177 --> 01:09:36,578 YOU HAVE TO WALK A VERY FINE LINE HERE 1504 01:09:36,578 --> 01:09:38,413 BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO APPRECIATE THE FACT 1505 01:09:38,413 --> 01:09:40,682 THAT CTE COULD MAKE YOU GO CRAZY 1506 01:09:40,682 --> 01:09:42,551 AND COULD MAKE YOU DO TERRIBLE THINGS. 1507 01:09:42,551 --> 01:09:45,319 THE NFL CALLED US WHEN FAMILIES ARE LOOKING FOR US TO HELP... 1508 01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:49,056 BUT THEN AGAIN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE IT, 1509 01:09:49,056 --> 01:09:54,128 YOU HAVE TO CLEAR TO THEM THAT PEOPLE WITH CTE CAN ALSO LIVE NORMAL LIVES 1510 01:09:54,128 --> 01:09:56,330 AND BE FINE, THEY JUST MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. 1511 01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:59,934 ONE OF THE REASONS I'M HERE IS TO ASK YOU TO GIVE ME YOUR BRAIN SOMEDAY. 1512 01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:03,738 ALZHEIMER'S STRIKES YOU AT THE END OF YOUR LIFE. 1513 01:10:03,738 --> 01:10:05,873 WHEN YOU'RE 78 IS THE AVERAGE ONSET OF ALZHEIMER'S, 1514 01:10:05,873 --> 01:10:07,541 AND CTE IS 43. 1515 01:10:07,541 --> 01:10:09,376 SO IT'S PRETTY DESTRUCTIVE. 1516 01:10:09,376 --> 01:10:11,244 WE HAD TWO A DAYS, BOTH MORNING AND AFTERNOON, 1517 01:10:11,244 --> 01:10:13,213 BEATING THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF EACH OTHER. 1518 01:10:13,213 --> 01:10:17,150 THERE'S MANY TIMES IN PRACTICE I CAME LOOKING THROUGH THE EAR HOLE OF MY HELMET, 1519 01:10:17,150 --> 01:10:18,718 TRYING TO MAKE THE TEAM EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW? 1520 01:10:18,718 --> 01:10:21,688 BUT WE WERE AT THIS THING THAT WE WENT TO 1521 01:10:21,688 --> 01:10:24,290 A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SOMEBODY ASKED... 1522 01:10:24,290 --> 01:10:26,726 ( inaudible ) 1523 01:10:26,726 --> 01:10:29,628 YEAH, WHAT THE HECK WAS I GOING TO JUST TELL YOU? 1524 01:10:29,628 --> 01:10:31,096 I'M GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK. 1525 01:10:31,096 --> 01:10:32,698 Man: STAGE THREE RIGHT THERE. 1526 01:10:32,698 --> 01:10:36,502 ( all laugh ) 1527 01:10:36,502 --> 01:10:38,704 WHAT THE HELL WAS I JUST TALKING ABOUT? 1528 01:10:38,704 --> 01:10:40,706 I DID FORGET. 1529 01:10:40,706 --> 01:10:42,775 I PLAYED FOR A LOT OF REALLY DUMB COACHES. 1530 01:10:42,775 --> 01:10:44,810 THERE'S A LOT MORE DUMB COACHES OUT THERE 1531 01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:47,445 THAN THERE ARE REALLY SMART, INNOVATIVE COACHES. 1532 01:10:47,445 --> 01:10:50,181 WHEN I WAS A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, 1533 01:10:50,181 --> 01:10:51,717 THEY DIDN'T GIVE US WATER. 1534 01:10:51,717 --> 01:10:54,452 YOU KNOW, YOU WERE A WUSS IF YOU ASKED FOR WATER. 1535 01:10:54,452 --> 01:10:56,454 AND THEN TWO KIDS DIED IN TEXAS, 1536 01:10:56,454 --> 01:10:58,523 AND THEN WE GOT WATER EVERY FIVE MINUTES. 1537 01:10:58,523 --> 01:11:00,425 RIGHT, IF FIVE KIDS THIS YEAR 1538 01:11:00,425 --> 01:11:04,127 DIED IN A WEEK FROM HEAD INJURIES, 1539 01:11:04,127 --> 01:11:06,731 FOOTBALL WOULD CHANGE IMMEDIATELY. 1540 01:11:06,731 --> 01:11:09,199 BUT YOU COULD CREATE 500,000 CASES OF CTE THIS YEAR, 1541 01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:10,868 AND EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH IT. 1542 01:11:10,868 --> 01:11:14,237 ALL I NEED FOR Y'ALL TO DO IS TO DIG DOWN INSIDE RIGHT NOW 1543 01:11:14,237 --> 01:11:16,807 AND GIVE ME ALL YOU HAVE SAVED UP. 1544 01:11:16,807 --> 01:11:18,375 YOU HEAR ME? 1545 01:11:18,375 --> 01:11:20,611 WE GOT 16 MINUTES. IT AIN'T OVER. 1546 01:11:20,611 --> 01:11:25,816 ♪ 1547 01:11:25,816 --> 01:11:28,518 YEAH, THERE YOU GO! HIT IT! HIT IT, BABY! 1548 01:11:28,518 --> 01:11:32,488 RUN, RUN! YEAH, YEAH! RUN, RUN! 1549 01:11:32,488 --> 01:11:35,124 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! RUN, RUN! 1550 01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:37,526 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! TAKE THAT! 1551 01:11:37,526 --> 01:11:41,031 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! 1552 01:11:41,031 --> 01:11:43,499 LET'S GO, DAVID! LET'S GO! 1553 01:11:43,499 --> 01:11:45,368 IF YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO PLAY ON THIS LEVEL, 1554 01:11:45,368 --> 01:11:46,769 AND MOVE ON UP TO THE NEXT LEVEL, 1555 01:11:46,769 --> 01:11:48,404 WHEN YOU GET READY TO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL, 1556 01:11:48,404 --> 01:11:49,972 IT'S GONNA BE SOME SCOUTS WATCHING Y'ALL, 1557 01:11:49,972 --> 01:11:51,373 GONNA WANT Y'ALL. 1558 01:11:51,373 --> 01:11:54,376 SO YOUR DREAMS COULD BE LIVED OUT RIGHT HERE. 1559 01:11:54,376 --> 01:11:57,379 Bob Costas: WATCH KIDS IN ANY SPORT. 1560 01:11:57,379 --> 01:12:01,282 THEY ARE MIMICKING WHAT THEY SEE. 1561 01:12:01,282 --> 01:12:06,988 SOME OF THE VIOLENCE IN THE NFL... 1562 01:12:06,988 --> 01:12:11,593 THE CELEBRATION OF THOSE SHOTS BY THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES, 1563 01:12:11,593 --> 01:12:15,664 BY THE MEDIA TO SOME EXTENT, BY MANY FANS... 1564 01:12:15,664 --> 01:12:21,669 IS DANGEROUS ENOUGH FOR ELITE ADULT ATHLETES. 1565 01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:23,637 Alan Schwarz: WHATEVER HAPPENS ON AN NFL FIELD 1566 01:12:23,637 --> 01:12:28,008 IS IMITATED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF KIDS. 1567 01:12:28,008 --> 01:12:32,446 WHAT HAPPENS ON SUNDAY IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON FRIDAY. 1568 01:12:32,446 --> 01:12:38,719 AND WHEN YOU SEE MICHAEL VICK RECEIVE A CONCUSSION 1569 01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:41,755 AND YOU SEE HIM JUST GO BACK INTO THE GAME AND BE FINE, 1570 01:12:41,755 --> 01:12:47,527 YOU'RE GOING TO ASSUME THAT IT'S PERFECTLY SAFE TO DO THIS. 1571 01:12:47,527 --> 01:12:50,697 Chris: IN 2011, THE NFL CHANGED THE POLICY 1572 01:12:50,697 --> 01:12:53,633 SO THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE NOW IN THE BOOTH 1573 01:12:53,633 --> 01:12:57,335 AND ON THE SIDELINE WHOSE JOB'S ONLY TO LOOK FOR A CONCUSSION. 1574 01:12:57,335 --> 01:12:58,738 AND THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE 1575 01:12:58,738 --> 01:13:00,907 THERE WERE SOME VERY OBVIOUS CASES 1576 01:13:00,907 --> 01:13:03,176 OF PLAYERS BEING CONCUSSED ON THE FIELD 1577 01:13:03,176 --> 01:13:06,112 AND YET THEY WEREN'T TREATED OR ASSESSED PROPERLY. 1578 01:13:06,112 --> 01:13:08,780 Dr. Batjer: AND THE PROBLEM WAS THE TRAINER AND THE PHYSICIAN 1579 01:13:08,780 --> 01:13:11,216 WERE OCCUPIED WITH ANOTHER INJURED PLAYER 1580 01:13:11,216 --> 01:13:13,385 AND NOT FACING THE FIELD. 1581 01:13:13,385 --> 01:13:15,821 SO 35 MILLION AMERICANS SAW IT, 1582 01:13:15,821 --> 01:13:19,057 BUT NOBODY WHO COULD ACTION THE PROBLEM SAW IT. 1583 01:13:19,057 --> 01:13:22,928 Chris: AND THE STORY AFTERWARDS WAS THAT NOBODY SAW THEM 1584 01:13:22,928 --> 01:13:24,930 GET KNOCKED OUT FOR 30 SECONDS ON THE FIELD. 1585 01:13:24,930 --> 01:13:27,132 NO ONE SAW THEM WOBBLE OFF THE FIELD 1586 01:13:27,132 --> 01:13:29,034 AFTER THEY GOT HIT IN THE HEAD. 1587 01:13:29,034 --> 01:13:31,368 THE NFL'S ACKNOWLEDGING THAT EVEN WITH A TEAM 1588 01:13:31,368 --> 01:13:33,037 OF MEDICAL PEOPLE ON THE SIDELINE, 1589 01:13:33,037 --> 01:13:34,905 THEY CAN'T SEE THE OBVIOUS CONCUSSIONS ON THE FIELD. 1590 01:13:34,905 --> 01:13:38,943 SO HOW ARE WE LETTING KIDS PLAY WITH NONE OF THE RESOURCES 1591 01:13:38,943 --> 01:13:41,712 THAT WE FEEL OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE GROWN MEN? 1592 01:13:41,712 --> 01:13:43,446 Dr. Cantu: IT WOULD BE IDEAL 1593 01:13:43,446 --> 01:13:45,482 THAT THERE'S A CERTIFIED ATHLETIC TRAINER 1594 01:13:45,482 --> 01:13:47,017 FOR EVERY HIGH SCHOOL, 1595 01:13:47,017 --> 01:13:50,854 BUT IT'S NOT A FINANCIAL REALITY RIGHT NOW. 1596 01:13:50,854 --> 01:13:54,191 AND IT IS TRUE THAT INNER-CITY SCHOOLS 1597 01:13:54,191 --> 01:13:59,729 MORE OFTEN THAN NOT LACK A CERTIFIED ATHLETIC TRAINER. 1598 01:13:59,729 --> 01:14:03,465 BUT I THINK THAT CERTAIN SPORTS AT HIGHEST RISK, 1599 01:14:03,465 --> 01:14:06,002 IT CAN BE ARGUED THAT IF YOU CAN'T PUT 1600 01:14:06,002 --> 01:14:09,638 PROPER MINIMUM MEDICAL FACILITIES ON THE SIDELINE, 1601 01:14:09,638 --> 01:14:13,475 THAT YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T PLAY THE SPORT. 1602 01:14:13,475 --> 01:14:16,612 LET'S GO, WILDCATS! 1603 01:14:16,612 --> 01:14:18,914 I LOVE THE PROGRAM. IT KEEPS THE KIDS OFF THE STREET. 1604 01:14:18,914 --> 01:14:20,115 ( crowd cheering ) 1605 01:14:20,115 --> 01:14:22,217 ( whistle blows ) 1606 01:14:22,217 --> 01:14:25,854 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY GET OUT OF SCHOOL 2:30, THEY AT PRACTICE TILL 8:00. 1607 01:14:25,854 --> 01:14:28,523 YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT COME HOME AND DO HOMEWORK, 1608 01:14:28,523 --> 01:14:30,424 AND THAT'S HOW I LIKE IT. 1609 01:14:30,424 --> 01:14:34,997 FOOTBALL IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE STREETS. 1610 01:14:34,997 --> 01:14:37,465 IF OUR ORGANIZATION DIDN'T GET 'EM, 1611 01:14:37,465 --> 01:14:40,668 THEN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE 'EM WILL. 1612 01:14:40,668 --> 01:14:44,205 Players: ONE, TWO, THREE! 1613 01:14:44,205 --> 01:14:46,908 Latanya Thomas: I BELIEVE YOU JUST HAVE TO PROTECT THEM 1614 01:14:46,908 --> 01:14:51,578 AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND PRAY. 1615 01:14:51,578 --> 01:14:54,982 Dr. Cantu: ONE WAY YOU CAN MAKE FOOTBALL SAFER 1616 01:14:54,982 --> 01:14:57,517 IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF BRAIN TRAUMA 1617 01:14:57,517 --> 01:14:59,553 OCCURRING IN PRACTICE 1618 01:14:59,553 --> 01:15:03,890 BY LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF FULL-CONTACT PRACTICE. 1619 01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:05,692 Chris: THERE IS A FOOTBALL LEAGUE 1620 01:15:05,692 --> 01:15:10,163 THAT ONLY ALLOWS IN PRACTICE ONE DAY OF HITTING PER WEEK. 1621 01:15:10,163 --> 01:15:12,799 IT'S THE NFL. 1622 01:15:12,799 --> 01:15:15,734 AND YET YOU GO DOWN TO ANY REGULAR CITY IN AMERICA 1623 01:15:15,734 --> 01:15:18,470 AND HEAR MOTHERS TELL YOU THEIR PLAYERS DO FOUR DAYS 1624 01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:21,040 OF FULL-PADDED PRACTICES A WEEK, AND A GAME. 1625 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,609 THERE'S NO WAY THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING. 1626 01:15:23,609 --> 01:15:25,344 THERE'S A BALANCE THERE. 1627 01:15:25,344 --> 01:15:28,747 CAN YOU EVER MAKE ANY PHYSICAL ACTIVITY COMPLETELY SAFE? 1628 01:15:28,747 --> 01:15:33,219 OF COURSE NOT, BUT WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF ACCEPTABLE RISK 1629 01:15:33,219 --> 01:15:36,454 AND WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF REASONABLE REFORM? 1630 01:15:36,454 --> 01:15:38,556 ( crowd cheering ) 1631 01:15:38,556 --> 01:15:40,059 Dr. Cantu: COLLISION SPORTS 1632 01:15:40,059 --> 01:15:45,029 SHOULD NOT BE PLAYED UNDER THE AGE OF 14. 1633 01:15:45,029 --> 01:15:47,665 NOW I'M NOT SAYING DO AWAY WITH THE SPORT, 1634 01:15:47,665 --> 01:15:50,201 I'M SAYING CHANGE THE WAY IT'S PLAYED. 1635 01:15:50,201 --> 01:15:54,438 IN PARTICULAR, TAKE HITS TO THE HEAD OUT OF IT. 1636 01:15:54,438 --> 01:15:57,574 ( crowd cheering ) 1637 01:15:57,574 --> 01:16:00,111 I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE THAT LITTLE KIDS 1638 01:16:00,111 --> 01:16:05,316 ARE BASHING HEADS WITH FOOTBALL HELMETS ON. 1639 01:16:05,316 --> 01:16:08,151 THEIR BRAINS ARE NOT MYLENATED, 1640 01:16:08,151 --> 01:16:10,888 THEIR HEADS ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY BIG, 1641 01:16:10,888 --> 01:16:13,624 THEIR NECKS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY WEAKER THAN THEY WILL BE LATER, 1642 01:16:13,624 --> 01:16:16,260 AND TRAUMA THAT THEY SUSTAIN 1643 01:16:16,260 --> 01:16:19,930 OFTEN SEEMS TO LAST LONGER BEFORE IT CLEARS. 1644 01:16:19,930 --> 01:16:22,865 Alan Schwarz: I'M NOT TELLING ANYBODY WHETHER THEY SHOULD LET A KID PLAY FOOTBALL OR NOT. 1645 01:16:22,865 --> 01:16:24,101 I MAKE DECISIONS WITH MY KID, 1646 01:16:24,101 --> 01:16:25,935 YOU MAKE DECISIONS WITH YOUR KID. 1647 01:16:25,935 --> 01:16:29,071 AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN THE LAW, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. 1648 01:16:29,071 --> 01:16:32,608 Players: ONE, TWO THREE! 1649 01:16:32,608 --> 01:16:34,610 Keith Primeau: MY DAUGHTER PLAYS FIELD LACROSSE, 1650 01:16:34,610 --> 01:16:38,080 AND MY BOYS PLAY ORGANIZED HOCKEY. 1651 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:42,218 THEY'VE BEEN AROUND THE GAME A LOT. 1652 01:16:42,218 --> 01:16:43,920 WE ARE A HOCKEY FAMILY. 1653 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,188 YOUR MULLIGAN WAS YESTERDAY. WE'RE TAKING SOME TIME OFF. 1654 01:16:46,188 --> 01:16:49,325 WE FOUND OUR LEGS, AND NOW WE GOTTA GET BACK THERE WORKING. 1655 01:16:49,325 --> 01:16:51,660 ( whistle blows ) 1656 01:16:54,930 --> 01:16:58,566 THREE WEEKS AGO, I WAS SKATING OVER THERE 1657 01:16:58,566 --> 01:17:01,102 TO HIT THIS KID AND HE STUCK HIS LEG OUT, 1658 01:17:01,102 --> 01:17:04,672 AND I TRIPPED OVER HIS LEG AND WENT HEAD FIRST INTO THE BOARDS. 1659 01:17:04,672 --> 01:17:06,674 I GOT WHIPLASH AND CONCUSSION. 1660 01:17:06,674 --> 01:17:08,509 Peter Laviolette: YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME 1661 01:17:08,509 --> 01:17:09,910 THAT HE'S HAD A CONCUSSION. 1662 01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:12,046 SO WE'RE REALLY TAKING IT SLOW. 1663 01:17:12,046 --> 01:17:13,714 YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. 1664 01:17:13,714 --> 01:17:15,417 PROBABLY THIRTY DAYS INTO IT NOW. 1665 01:17:15,417 --> 01:17:17,251 HE WANTS TO GET BACK, HE'S FEELING BETTER, 1666 01:17:17,251 --> 01:17:19,753 BUT YOU KNOW, PATIENCE IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING 1667 01:17:19,753 --> 01:17:21,521 WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CONCUSSIONS, 1668 01:17:21,521 --> 01:17:23,791 WHETHER THEY'RE YOUR PLAYERS IN THE NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE 1669 01:17:23,791 --> 01:17:25,326 OR IT'S YOUR OWN SON. 1670 01:17:25,326 --> 01:17:27,760 I'VE BEEN PLAYING HOCKEY SINCE I'VE BEEN TWO. 1671 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,997 WHEN I WAS FIVE, I STARTED PLAYING IN THE LEAGUE. 1672 01:17:30,997 --> 01:17:34,301 I LIKE THE CONTACT, JUST SEEING A GUY GO ON THE ICE, 1673 01:17:34,301 --> 01:17:35,969 FALL ON THE ICE, I JUST LOVE IT. 1674 01:17:35,969 --> 01:17:38,671 I DON'T KNOW WHY. I DO IT TO MY BROTHER. 1675 01:17:41,641 --> 01:17:43,376 Chayse Primeau: I WENT BACK DOWN TO GET THE PUCK 1676 01:17:43,376 --> 01:17:45,644 AND I GOT HIT FROM BEHIND. 1677 01:17:45,644 --> 01:17:47,280 AND I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING. 1678 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,715 PEOPLE SAID I WAS ON THE ICE FOR LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES. 1679 01:17:49,715 --> 01:17:52,551 I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER 20 SECONDS OF IT. 1680 01:17:52,551 --> 01:17:53,986 I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF IT. 1681 01:17:53,986 --> 01:17:55,520 I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS OUT THERE GETTING YOU UP. 1682 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,122 I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. 1683 01:17:57,122 --> 01:17:58,790 CHAYSE! 1684 01:18:00,292 --> 01:18:02,060 Steve: DO YOU THINK IT'S GOOD TO KNOW MORE ABOUT CONCUSSIONS? 1685 01:18:02,060 --> 01:18:03,962 OR WOULD YOU JUST RATHER NOT KNOW? 1686 01:18:03,962 --> 01:18:05,430 NOT KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT 'EM. 1687 01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:07,631 'CAUSE IF I GET ONE, IT KINDA SCARES ME. 1688 01:18:07,631 --> 01:18:09,667 LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IF I HAVE THIS? 1689 01:18:09,667 --> 01:18:12,404 BUT SINCE I DON'T KNOW, I JUST... 1690 01:18:12,404 --> 01:18:14,339 I LIKE IT BETTER THAT WAY. 1691 01:18:14,339 --> 01:18:16,674 SO WHEN YOUR DAD TALKS TO YOU ABOUT CONCUSSIONS, 1692 01:18:16,674 --> 01:18:18,743 YOU PREFER HE DOESN'T REALLY TELL YOU TOO MUCH? 1693 01:18:18,743 --> 01:18:21,746 YEAH. ( laughs ) 1694 01:18:21,746 --> 01:18:23,482 DOES HE KNOW THAT? 1695 01:18:23,482 --> 01:18:25,816 NO. ( laughs ) 1696 01:18:29,887 --> 01:18:32,123 BEING A PEDIATRICIAN FOR MANY YEARS, 1697 01:18:32,123 --> 01:18:35,192 I WANTED TO HELP MY OLDEST SON NATHAN 1698 01:18:35,192 --> 01:18:37,194 PROTECT THAT BRAIN 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW HE'S GONNA EARN HIS LIVING. 1699 01:18:37,194 --> 01:18:40,163 HE WASN'T GONNA BE GOING OFF AND PLAYING HOCKEY FOR A LIVING. 1700 01:18:40,163 --> 01:18:43,833 AND SO ONE OF HIS EARLY COACHES WAS KEITH PRIMEAU, 1701 01:18:43,833 --> 01:18:47,103 WHO HAD JUST RETIRED FROM THE NHL BECAUSE OF CONCUSSIONS. 1702 01:18:47,103 --> 01:18:48,938 GO! 1703 01:18:48,938 --> 01:18:52,208 HAVING KEITH AS ONE OF NATHAN'S EARLY COACHES 1704 01:18:52,208 --> 01:18:55,145 REALLY MADE A BIG IMPACT ON OUR WHOLE FAMILY. 1705 01:18:55,145 --> 01:18:58,947 HE CHANGED OUR LIVES, BUT ALSO CHANGED MY CAREER. 1706 01:18:58,947 --> 01:19:00,549 I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT MY PEN. 1707 01:19:00,549 --> 01:19:03,685 DOES THAT PEN LOOK FAIRLY CLEAR? IT'S NOT DOUBLE OR BLURRY? 1708 01:19:03,685 --> 01:19:05,154 IT'S DOUBLING. 1709 01:19:05,154 --> 01:19:06,489 IT IS DOUBLE AND BLURRY? 1710 01:19:06,489 --> 01:19:07,689 CLOSE YOUR EYES. 1711 01:19:07,689 --> 01:19:09,324 THERE IS RESEARCH THAT DOES SHOW 1712 01:19:09,324 --> 01:19:12,194 THAT CHILDREN RESPOND DIFFERENTLY TO CONCUSSIONS. 1713 01:19:12,194 --> 01:19:13,862 THEY'RE NOT JUST LITTLE ADULTS. 1714 01:19:13,862 --> 01:19:15,998 ALL RIGHT, IT MAKES YOU FEEL WOBBLY? YEAH. 1715 01:19:19,934 --> 01:19:23,871 Dr. Cantu: LET'S SEE, STILL HAVING ISSUES WITH HEADACHES, 1716 01:19:23,871 --> 01:19:27,575 STILL HAVING ISSUES WITH TROUBLE FALLING ASLEEP, 1717 01:19:27,575 --> 01:19:29,377 NOT BEING ABLE TO CONCENTRATE... 1718 01:19:29,377 --> 01:19:30,978 Nate Gyory: IT WASN'T A BIG HIT AT ALL. 1719 01:19:30,978 --> 01:19:32,647 I'VE BEEN HIT MUCH HARDER BEFORE. 1720 01:19:32,647 --> 01:19:35,615 IT WAS JUST LIKE 3 CONSECUTIVE FACEMASK-TO-FACEMASK HEAD BUTTS. 1721 01:19:35,615 --> 01:19:38,618 AND THAT WAS MY FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS FOR THE HOCKEY SEASON. 1722 01:19:38,618 --> 01:19:41,022 I PLAYED THE REST OF THE GAME. I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT. 1723 01:19:41,022 --> 01:19:42,889 Lisa Gyory: IT WASN'T ONE OF THESE HITS WHERE I SAID, 1724 01:19:42,889 --> 01:19:44,624 "OH, MY GOD, IS HE HURT?" 1725 01:19:44,624 --> 01:19:45,892 I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS HURT. 1726 01:19:45,892 --> 01:19:47,528 I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS HIT. 1727 01:19:47,528 --> 01:19:50,097 THEN I WENT TO BED AND I WOKE UP WITH A REALLY BAD HEADACHE. 1728 01:19:50,097 --> 01:19:53,100 AND I TOOK TWO WEEKS OFF. IT GOT BETTER AFTER TWO WEEKS. 1729 01:19:53,100 --> 01:19:55,135 I GOT RIGHT BACK INTO THE LACROSSE SEASON, 1730 01:19:55,135 --> 01:19:56,837 WHICH WAS STARTING A MONTH LATER. 1731 01:19:56,837 --> 01:19:58,572 ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE SEASON, 1732 01:19:58,572 --> 01:20:00,140 I GOT ANOTHER CONCUSSION. 1733 01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:01,841 Dr. Cantu: LEAN FORWARD A LITTLE BIT 1734 01:20:01,841 --> 01:20:05,378 TO CENTER YOUR WEIGHT AND THEN CLOSE YOUR EYES. 1735 01:20:05,378 --> 01:20:09,815 IF SOMEBODY HAS NOT FULLY RECOVERED FROM A CONCUSSION 1736 01:20:09,815 --> 01:20:13,352 AND THEN IS SUBJECTED TO A SECOND CONCUSSION, 1737 01:20:13,352 --> 01:20:17,356 MORE PROBABLY THAN NOT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE 1738 01:20:17,356 --> 01:20:20,493 A MUCH LONGER TIME TO GET OVER THE SYMPTOMS 1739 01:20:20,493 --> 01:20:23,529 THAN IF THEY'D SUFFERED THOSE TWO CONCUSSIONS 1740 01:20:23,529 --> 01:20:25,064 SAY A YEAR APART. 1741 01:20:25,064 --> 01:20:29,968 HE BECAME SYMPTOMATIC WHEN SCHOOLWORK GOT PILED ON. 1742 01:20:29,968 --> 01:20:32,237 PUT YOUR TONGUE OUT STRAIGHT. 1743 01:20:32,237 --> 01:20:35,240 AND SO IT WAS ACTUALLY THAT ADDITIONAL COGNITIVE LOAD 1744 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:40,677 OF SCHOOLWORK THAT BROUGHT BACK POST-CONCUSSION SYMPTOMS. 1745 01:20:40,677 --> 01:20:44,415 THE ASPECT OF ALL OF THIS FOR DOWN THE ROAD 1746 01:20:44,415 --> 01:20:47,951 IS WHETHER YOU GO BACK TO CONTACT COLLISION SPORTS. 1747 01:20:47,951 --> 01:20:51,822 AND THIS IS BASED PARTLY ON THE FACT THAT YOUR INJURY 1748 01:20:51,822 --> 01:20:54,124 DID NOT SEEM TO BE A MONUMENTAL HIT, 1749 01:20:54,124 --> 01:20:58,630 AND YET THE SYMPTOMS HAVE LASTED AN APPRECIABLE PERIOD OF TIME. 1750 01:20:58,630 --> 01:21:01,231 Nate Gyory: IT WAS REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE I HAVE MY HOCKEY SEASON COMING UP, 1751 01:21:01,231 --> 01:21:03,634 AND IT LOOKS REALLY BAD FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. 1752 01:21:03,634 --> 01:21:05,202 I'M THE CAPTAIN OF THE TEAM. 1753 01:21:05,202 --> 01:21:07,437 SO I STILL HAVE TO BE THERE FOR EVERYONE. 1754 01:21:07,437 --> 01:21:09,273 THE TEAMMATES, I WOULD SAY, WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE. 1755 01:21:09,273 --> 01:21:11,642 IT WAS THE PARENTS WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, 1756 01:21:11,642 --> 01:21:14,611 BECAUSE I COULDN'T COME TO THE GAMES SOMETIMES 'CAUSE I NEEDED TO RECOVER. 1757 01:21:14,611 --> 01:21:16,212 SO THEY'D SAY, "OH, THAT KID DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TEAM. 1758 01:21:16,212 --> 01:21:19,215 "HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT HOW THEY'RE DOING. 1759 01:21:19,215 --> 01:21:21,684 HE'S JUST GOING HOME BECAUSE HE'S TIRED OF LACROSSE SEASON." 1760 01:21:21,684 --> 01:21:23,519 BUT THAT WASN'T THE CASE AT ALL. 1761 01:21:23,519 --> 01:21:24,921 I DIDN'T KNOW, ACTUALLY. 1762 01:21:24,921 --> 01:21:27,990 I DIDN'T HEAR THE CRITICISM BY PARENTS. 1763 01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:29,458 I DON'T LIKE TO GOSSIP, SO... ( laughs ) 1764 01:21:29,458 --> 01:21:31,360 NO, HE DOESN'T. 1765 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,162 I DIDN'T EXPECT GETTING EMOTIONAL, 1766 01:21:33,162 --> 01:21:35,897 AHH, LISTENING TO THE WHOLE THING. 1767 01:21:35,897 --> 01:21:39,000 IF I COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND CHANGE ONE THING, 1768 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,536 I WOULD HAVE TAKEN TWO WEEKS OFF OF SCHOOL, 1769 01:21:40,536 --> 01:21:42,771 NOT STRESS MYSELF AT ALL, JUST TAKING THE TIME OFF, 1770 01:21:42,771 --> 01:21:46,241 BECAUSE IN THE END, IT WAS THE SCHOOLWORK THAT SET ME BACK. 1771 01:21:47,909 --> 01:21:50,045 Dr. Master: IF THEIR BRAIN HAS RECOVERED ENOUGH 1772 01:21:50,045 --> 01:21:53,914 THAT THEY CAN DO COGNITIVE WORK AND HANDLE A FULL DAY OF SCHOOL, 1773 01:21:53,914 --> 01:21:55,684 THEN WE CAN PROGRESS THEM 1774 01:21:55,684 --> 01:21:57,084 THROUGH A RETURN-TO-PLAY PROTOCOL, 1775 01:21:57,084 --> 01:21:59,220 AND IT GOES FAIRLY SMOOTHLY. 1776 01:22:01,355 --> 01:22:03,224 CHRIS: THE FOCUS OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, 1777 01:22:03,224 --> 01:22:05,459 AND THE FOCUS OF A LOT OF THE LEGISLATION, 1778 01:22:05,459 --> 01:22:08,162 HAS BEEN RETURN-TO-PLAY. 1779 01:22:08,162 --> 01:22:10,598 AND THAT'S THE STORY THAT'S REALLY A LOT OF PLACES 1780 01:22:10,598 --> 01:22:12,266 BEING SOLD AS THE SOLUTION. 1781 01:22:12,266 --> 01:22:14,000 I MEAN, I HEAR IT FROM PARENTS ALL THE TIME, 1782 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,768 EVEN IF THEY GET A CONCUSSION, 1783 01:22:15,768 --> 01:22:17,238 AS LONG AS THEY RETURN TO PLAY 1784 01:22:17,238 --> 01:22:20,608 AT THE RIGHT TIME, THEY'LL BE FINE. 1785 01:22:20,608 --> 01:22:23,042 WHAT NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT, AT ANY LEVEL, 1786 01:22:23,042 --> 01:22:26,346 IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE CLEARLY NOT DIAGNOSING CONCUSSIONS 1787 01:22:26,346 --> 01:22:28,448 AND WE ARE NOT GETTING ATHLETES OFF THE FIELD 1788 01:22:28,448 --> 01:22:29,983 WHEN THEY DO HAVE THEM. 1789 01:22:29,983 --> 01:22:34,120 ATHLETES DON'T REALIZE HOW IT'S IN THEIR OWN BEST INTEREST 1790 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:39,359 TO PULL THEMSELVES OUT OR TO REPORT THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING WRONG. 1791 01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:41,261 Eric Laudano: THE ATHLETIC TRAINERS HERE 1792 01:22:41,261 --> 01:22:43,061 ARE ON THE FIELD FROM THE START 1793 01:22:43,061 --> 01:22:44,664 OR BEGINNING OF THE PRACTICE OR GAME. 1794 01:22:44,664 --> 01:22:47,299 SO IF WE SEE AN INCIDENT THAT IS EXTREMELY VIOLENT 1795 01:22:47,299 --> 01:22:49,501 OR IF THE ATHLETE DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THEMSELVES, 1796 01:22:49,501 --> 01:22:51,870 WE'LL IMMEDIATELY BRING THE ATHLETE OFF THE FIELD 1797 01:22:51,870 --> 01:22:54,006 AND EVALUATE THEM ON THE SIDELINES 1798 01:22:54,006 --> 01:22:56,642 TO ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T RETURN TO PLAY 1799 01:22:56,642 --> 01:22:58,876 IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE THEM WORSE. 1800 01:22:58,876 --> 01:23:03,080 ( players yelling ) 1801 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,750 Chris: WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SAY SCIENTIFICALLY 1802 01:23:04,750 --> 01:23:07,885 WHAT'S SAFE AND WHAT'S UNSAFE. 1803 01:23:07,885 --> 01:23:12,123 THE IDEA THAT A 100-G BLOW TO YOUR HEAD 1804 01:23:12,123 --> 01:23:13,924 CAUSES A CONCUSSION, AND THAT'S BAD FOR YOU, 1805 01:23:13,924 --> 01:23:18,262 BUT THAT 99-G BLOW THAT YOU SAY, "OH, I'M FINE." THAT'S FINE? 1806 01:23:18,262 --> 01:23:20,897 IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT THAT'S THE REALITY. 1807 01:23:23,066 --> 01:23:24,735 Douglas Smith: WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHETHER THERE'S 1808 01:23:24,735 --> 01:23:30,675 A CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF INJURIES THAT YOU CAN'T SEE. 1809 01:23:30,675 --> 01:23:34,444 NOW PEOPLE ARE USING THE TERM "SUB-CONCUSSIVE BLOWS." 1810 01:23:34,444 --> 01:23:37,180 Dr. Steven Galetta: SUB-CONCUSSIVE BLOWS 1811 01:23:37,180 --> 01:23:41,984 WOULD REFER TO HEAD HITS THAT DON'T BECOME APPARENT 1812 01:23:41,984 --> 01:23:44,654 TO THE ATHLETE IN ANY CLINICAL SYMPTOMOLOGY. 1813 01:23:44,654 --> 01:23:49,825 THAT IS, THEY MAY HAVE CRASHED HELMETS AND FELT FINE. 1814 01:23:49,825 --> 01:23:53,028 Dr. Master: ONE OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT SUB-CONCUSSIVE HITS 1815 01:23:53,028 --> 01:23:57,566 IS THAT YOU DON'T JUST GET A PASS ON THEM. 1816 01:23:57,566 --> 01:23:59,301 THEY'RE NOT FREE. 1817 01:23:59,301 --> 01:24:02,438 Dr. Galetta: WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT 1818 01:24:02,438 --> 01:24:05,907 THE NUMBER OF THESE HITS PUT THAT INDIVIDUAL 1819 01:24:05,907 --> 01:24:08,544 AT INCREASED RISK FOR CTE. 1820 01:24:08,544 --> 01:24:11,312 Jason Stallman: WHAT IF THE REAL DAMAGE IS DONE 1821 01:24:11,312 --> 01:24:13,181 BY THE DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS 1822 01:24:13,181 --> 01:24:15,183 OF SEEMINGLY INNOCUOUS COLLISIONS 1823 01:24:15,183 --> 01:24:17,185 THAT A LINEMAN, FOR EXAMPLE, 1824 01:24:17,185 --> 01:24:20,388 MIGHT ENDURE THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A GAME. 1825 01:24:20,388 --> 01:24:22,557 THERE'S SO LITTLE UNDERSTANDING, 1826 01:24:22,557 --> 01:24:24,225 I THINK, SO FAR, ON WHAT 1827 01:24:24,225 --> 01:24:26,026 THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ARE, 1828 01:24:26,026 --> 01:24:27,628 AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT 1829 01:24:27,628 --> 01:24:31,332 A YOUNG PLAYER STARTING OUT AT FIVE OR TEN YEARS OLD, 1830 01:24:31,332 --> 01:24:34,301 THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TIMES HIS BRAIN 1831 01:24:34,301 --> 01:24:36,637 HAS BEEN IN A COLLISION IS QUITE A LOT. 1832 01:24:36,637 --> 01:24:39,239 WHAT IF SUDDENLY PARENTS DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS 1833 01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:41,475 TO PUT A FOOTBALL HELMET ON 1834 01:24:41,475 --> 01:24:43,643 AND RUN ONTO A FOOTBALL FIELD ANYMORE? 1835 01:24:43,643 --> 01:24:46,046 WHERE DOES THE SPORT GO? 1836 01:24:46,046 --> 01:24:48,615 THAT'S MY BABY! 1837 01:24:48,615 --> 01:24:53,119 ( crowd cheering ) 1838 01:24:53,119 --> 01:24:58,057 WHOO! THERE YOU GO! THEY'RE COMING BACK! 1839 01:24:58,057 --> 01:25:00,593 WE CAN DO THIS HERE, BABY! 1840 01:25:00,593 --> 01:25:03,864 MAN, I WANT TO DO THE DAVID AND GOLIATH THING! 1841 01:25:03,864 --> 01:25:05,998 ♪ 1842 01:25:07,833 --> 01:25:09,769 Cindy Parlow Cone: WHEN MY KIDS GET HIT IN THE HEAD, 1843 01:25:09,769 --> 01:25:13,004 I IMMEDIATELY SUB THEM OUT. 1844 01:25:13,004 --> 01:25:15,541 AND I CHECK THEM OVER. IT DRIVES THEM NUTS. 1845 01:25:15,541 --> 01:25:18,243 THEY GET SO-- "I'M FINE, CINDY, I'M FINE!" 1846 01:25:19,678 --> 01:25:23,181 Laura Rounce: GET IT, MAR! DON'T BREAK YOUR LEG! 1847 01:25:23,181 --> 01:25:25,650 Cindy: I'VE BEEN SCREAMED AND YELLED AT BY PARENTS 1848 01:25:25,650 --> 01:25:27,986 FOR NOT PLAYING THEM WHEN THEY'VE GOTTEN A CONCUSSION. 1849 01:25:27,986 --> 01:25:29,454 WHICH IS FINE BY ME, 1850 01:25:29,454 --> 01:25:31,556 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING. 1851 01:25:31,556 --> 01:25:34,024 AND I'VE ACTUALLY HAD THOSE SAME PARENTS 1852 01:25:34,024 --> 01:25:36,994 COME BACK TO ME AND APOLOGIZE AND THANK ME 1853 01:25:36,994 --> 01:25:38,962 BECAUSE I WOULD SEND THEM PUBLICATIONS 1854 01:25:38,962 --> 01:25:40,732 ON THE EFFECTS OF CONCUSSIONS. 1855 01:25:40,732 --> 01:25:44,034 Mary Rounce: IT'S SCARY, KNOWING IF I GET ONE MORE, 1856 01:25:44,034 --> 01:25:45,702 WHAT COULD HAPPEN. 1857 01:25:45,702 --> 01:25:47,906 DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GET DEMENTIA FROM CONCUSSIONS? 1858 01:25:47,906 --> 01:25:51,909 YEAH, I THINK I'M GONNA GET IT EARLY ON. ( laughs ) 1859 01:25:51,909 --> 01:25:53,610 SO WHAT KIND OF MOTHER AM I? 1860 01:25:53,610 --> 01:25:55,546 SHE HEARD, OR WE HEARD FROM SOMEBODY, 1861 01:25:55,546 --> 01:25:58,715 THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE-- ONCE YOU HAVE FIVE, YOU'RE DONE. 1862 01:25:58,715 --> 01:26:01,284 IS THERE A SCIENTIFIC STUDY ABOUT HOW MANY ARE ACCEPTABLE? 1863 01:26:01,284 --> 01:26:04,420 ZERO IS PROBABLY ACCEPTABLE. 1864 01:26:04,420 --> 01:26:07,323 OKAY. 1865 01:26:07,323 --> 01:26:09,659 AS A GENERAL PEDIATRICIAN, 1866 01:26:09,659 --> 01:26:12,895 AND ALSO A SPECIALIST IN SPORTS MEDICINE, 1867 01:26:12,895 --> 01:26:14,963 THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION EVEN FOR ME TO ANSWER 1868 01:26:14,963 --> 01:26:16,599 FOR MY OWN FAMILY, AS YOU CAN SEE. 1869 01:26:16,599 --> 01:26:18,534 Dr. Laura Balcer: THE FACT OF NEUROLOGY 1870 01:26:18,534 --> 01:26:20,336 IS THAT REALLY AFTER THREE CONCUSSIONS 1871 01:26:20,336 --> 01:26:23,706 AN ATHLETE SHOULD THINK ABOUT RETIRING FROM THAT SPORT. 1872 01:26:23,706 --> 01:26:25,942 Steve: AND THE SEVERITY OF THOSE CONCUSSIONS? I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS. 1873 01:26:25,942 --> 01:26:30,813 I THINK JUST THAT YOU'VE HAD A MEANINGFUL NEUROLOGIC EVENT EACH TIME IS IMPORTANT. 1874 01:26:30,813 --> 01:26:34,282 Dr. Master: RIGHT NOW, NATHAN HAS SUSTAINED 1875 01:26:34,282 --> 01:26:37,619 PROBABLY THREE OFFICIAL CONCUSSIONS. 1876 01:26:37,619 --> 01:26:39,454 Dr. Smith: PEOPLE SAY, "WELL, IF YOU HAD A CONCUSSION, 1877 01:26:39,454 --> 01:26:42,924 HOW LONG WOULD YOU WAIT OUT UNTIL YOU WENT BACK IN?" 1878 01:26:42,924 --> 01:26:46,060 AND I SAY 50 YEARS. SERIOUSLY. 1879 01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:47,863 I MEAN 50 YEARS. THAT'S MY BRAIN. 1880 01:26:47,863 --> 01:26:51,298 IF YOU GET HIT AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING DOWN ANOTHER NOTCH. 1881 01:26:51,298 --> 01:26:53,935 IF YOU LIKE HOW QUICKLY YOU CAN THINK NOW, 1882 01:26:53,935 --> 01:26:57,905 AND YOU LIKE WHO YOU ARE, THAT YOU CAN GET JOKES QUICKLY, 1883 01:26:57,905 --> 01:27:00,541 YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THAT WENT AWAY? 1884 01:27:00,541 --> 01:27:03,377 FOR ME, THAT'S ENOUGH OF A RISK TO JUST SAY NO. 1885 01:27:03,377 --> 01:27:07,681 FIFTEEN OR SO PERCENT OF PEOPLE WITH A SINGLE CONCUSSION 1886 01:27:07,681 --> 01:27:09,917 HAVE PERSISTING COGNITIVE DYSFUNCTION. 1887 01:27:09,917 --> 01:27:13,253 MEANING, THEY DON'T GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR TO WORK 1888 01:27:13,253 --> 01:27:15,488 OR JUST CARRY ON LIFE THE WAY THEY HAD IT. 1889 01:27:15,488 --> 01:27:19,959 THEY HAVE LONG-TERM PERSISTING PROBLEMS AFTER ONE CONCUSSION. 1890 01:27:19,959 --> 01:27:22,362 DOUG SMITH, HE SAID ONE IS TOO MANY. 1891 01:27:22,362 --> 01:27:23,997 AND YOU KNOW, I KIND OF CRINGED 1892 01:27:23,997 --> 01:27:26,833 BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE HE'S PROBABLY RIGHT, YOU KNOW, 1893 01:27:26,833 --> 01:27:30,770 BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. 1894 01:27:30,770 --> 01:27:35,875 I MIGHT LOOK BACK AND SAY I WISHED I HAD STOPPED HIM AFTER THIS LAST ONE. 1895 01:27:35,875 --> 01:27:42,180 Steve: SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY NO HOCKEY? 1896 01:27:42,180 --> 01:27:44,616 Dr. Master: BECAUSE HE LOVES TO PLAY HOCKEY, 1897 01:27:44,616 --> 01:27:47,653 WE LOVE THAT HE LOVES PLAYING HOCKEY, 1898 01:27:47,653 --> 01:27:50,388 AND WE LOVE WATCHING HIM PLAY HOCKEY. 1899 01:27:53,491 --> 01:27:55,727 Laura Rounce: WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT 1900 01:27:55,727 --> 01:27:59,630 ABOUT WHAT IF YOU COULDN'T PLAY SOCCER. 1901 01:27:59,630 --> 01:28:01,299 AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT 1902 01:28:01,299 --> 01:28:02,833 BECAUSE SHE LOVES IT. 1903 01:28:02,833 --> 01:28:04,035 ( crowd cheering ) 1904 01:28:04,035 --> 01:28:05,836 Morgan Thomas: I LOVE FOOTBALL. 1905 01:28:05,836 --> 01:28:10,408 YOU'RE BLEEDING, YOU'RE CRYING, YOU'RE SWEATING WITH THESE GUYS, 1906 01:28:10,408 --> 01:28:13,911 IN THE LOCKER ROOM, ON AWAY TRIPS. 1907 01:28:13,911 --> 01:28:15,613 IT'S ALMOST LIKE GOING THROUGH BATTLE. 1908 01:28:15,613 --> 01:28:17,681 IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE YOUR WAR BUDDIES. 1909 01:28:17,681 --> 01:28:20,650 YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ANYBODY. 1910 01:28:20,650 --> 01:28:24,788 Peewee coach: WHEN WE STARTED OUR PROGRAM, IT WAS HARD. 1911 01:28:24,788 --> 01:28:29,059 YOU HAD DIVISION AMONG CHILDREN FROM COMMUNITIES NEARBY. 1912 01:28:29,059 --> 01:28:32,996 THIS KID DOESN'T LIKE THAT KID AND IF YOU ASK HIM WHY, 1913 01:28:32,996 --> 01:28:34,463 HE CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU, 1914 01:28:34,463 --> 01:28:37,934 OTHER THAN HE LIVE OVER THERE IN THE ROW HOUSES. 1915 01:28:37,934 --> 01:28:43,138 AND THROUGH FOOTBALL, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THEM TOGETHER, 1916 01:28:43,138 --> 01:28:45,407 FIND A COMMON GROUND. 1917 01:28:53,882 --> 01:28:55,183 ( crowd cheering ) 1918 01:28:55,183 --> 01:28:56,585 Dr. McKee: WHEN YOU GROW UP WITH FOOTBALL, 1919 01:28:56,585 --> 01:28:58,621 YOU LOVE THE CHANGE OF THE SEASON, 1920 01:28:58,621 --> 01:29:03,191 THE SENSE OF EXCITEMENT WHEN YOU HEAR THE CROWD, 1921 01:29:03,191 --> 01:29:05,393 I ADMIT IT, I'M A HUGE FOOTBALL FAN, 1922 01:29:05,393 --> 01:29:09,597 AND IT'S LIKE I CAN'T HELP IT, IT'S JUST PART OF ME. 1923 01:29:09,597 --> 01:29:14,369 Chris: THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT WE ROMANTICIZE THESE SPORTS. 1924 01:29:14,369 --> 01:29:15,703 WHEN I GREW UP, 1925 01:29:15,703 --> 01:29:18,606 I HAD THIS EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO FOOTBALL. 1926 01:29:18,606 --> 01:29:21,809 THE VALUES THAT PEOPLE HOLD DEAR CAN BE ACHIEVED OTHER WAYS. 1927 01:29:21,809 --> 01:29:25,679 I DID PLAY BASKETBALL, I DID PLAY BASEBALL, I DID DO THEATRE. 1928 01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:27,714 I LEARNED LESSONS IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 1929 01:29:27,714 --> 01:29:31,785 Isaiah Kacyvenski: I WOULD LOVE FOR ISAIAH JR. TO PLAY FOOTBALL. 1930 01:29:31,785 --> 01:29:34,921 FOOTBALL HAS ABSOLUTELY GIVEN ME SO MUCH IN MY LIFE. 1931 01:29:34,921 --> 01:29:37,691 I JUST WANT IT TO BE UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. 1932 01:29:37,691 --> 01:29:40,426 RIGHT NOW, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME 1933 01:29:40,426 --> 01:29:43,462 PUTTING MY SON ON A FIELD WITH A GOOD CONSCIENCE. 1934 01:29:43,462 --> 01:29:44,931 MY SON'S FOUR YEARS OLD, 1935 01:29:44,931 --> 01:29:46,565 AND I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO'S TWO AND A HALF. 1936 01:29:46,565 --> 01:29:51,071 Steve: DO YOU WANT YOUR SON TO PLAY FOOTBALL? 1937 01:29:51,071 --> 01:29:52,972 ( sighs ) 1938 01:29:52,972 --> 01:29:56,509 LET'S GO! LET'S GO! 1939 01:29:56,509 --> 01:30:00,245 RUN THE SAME THING. GO, GO, GO. TO THE LEFT. 1940 01:30:00,245 --> 01:30:02,682 ( whistle blows ) 1941 01:30:02,682 --> 01:30:04,817 LET'S GO, Y'ALL. NOW OR NEVER, BABY! 1942 01:30:04,817 --> 01:30:07,519 DAVID, LET'S MAKE HISTORY! NOW OR NEVER! 1943 01:30:07,519 --> 01:30:10,156 OVER HERE! EVERYTHING! 1944 01:30:10,156 --> 01:30:14,126 EVERYTHING! TAKE 'EM OUT! TAKE 'EM STRAIGHT OUT! 1945 01:30:14,126 --> 01:30:18,630 GO! YEAH! GO, BABY, GO! GO, GO, GO! 1946 01:30:21,032 --> 01:30:22,266 ( whistle blows ) 1947 01:30:22,266 --> 01:30:24,903 DAMN! 1948 01:30:24,903 --> 01:30:26,336 ( whistle blows ) 1949 01:30:26,336 --> 01:30:28,039 HEY, THAT'S GAME. 1950 01:30:28,039 --> 01:30:30,842 WOW. 1951 01:30:30,842 --> 01:30:33,777 THEY JUST GOT TIRED ON ME, THAT'S ALL. 1952 01:30:33,777 --> 01:30:35,846 AIN'T GOT NOTHIN' TO HOLD THEIR HEADS DOWN FOR. 1953 01:30:35,846 --> 01:30:38,315 ELEVEN GUYS, YES, SIR. 1954 01:30:38,315 --> 01:30:39,917 HEY, BOY, DON'T DO THAT. 1955 01:30:39,917 --> 01:30:41,719 DON'T DO THAT. COME HERE. COME HERE, RIGHT HERE. 1956 01:30:41,719 --> 01:30:43,987 COME HERE, COME HERE. LOOK. LOOK. 1957 01:30:43,987 --> 01:30:47,323 Y'ALL DIDN'T GET THIS FAR NOT KNOWING HOW TO PLAY. 1958 01:30:47,323 --> 01:30:49,492 COME ON, CHRIS, HOLD YOUR HEAD UP 1959 01:30:49,492 --> 01:30:52,029 AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED THIS SEASON, 1960 01:30:52,029 --> 01:30:54,464 AND GOD WILLING, I'LL SEE ALL Y'ALL 1961 01:30:54,464 --> 01:30:55,999 BACK HERE NEXT YEAR. 1962 01:30:55,999 --> 01:30:57,467 IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL WANT? Players: YEAH! 1963 01:30:57,467 --> 01:30:58,801 LET ME HEAR YOU THEN. 1964 01:30:58,801 --> 01:31:00,470 HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL? GOOD! 1965 01:31:00,470 --> 01:31:01,671 HOW YOU FEEL? GOOD! 1966 01:31:01,671 --> 01:31:03,139 HOW GOOD?! REAL GOOD! 1967 01:31:03,139 --> 01:31:04,640 HOW GOOD?! REAL GOOD! 1968 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,710 ♪ 1969 01:31:07,710 --> 01:31:11,580 Keith Primeau: FOCUS, DETERMINATION, 1970 01:31:11,580 --> 01:31:15,851 A WILLINGNESS TO COMMIT AND COMPETE FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. 1971 01:31:15,851 --> 01:31:20,189 IT'S THE REASON FOR PLAYING SPORTS. 1972 01:31:20,189 --> 01:31:22,191 THREE OF MY FOUR CHILDREN 1973 01:31:22,191 --> 01:31:25,327 HAVE ALL SUFFERED ONE CONCUSSION. 1974 01:31:25,327 --> 01:31:27,863 MY DAUGHTER ASKED ME THE QUESTION, 1975 01:31:27,863 --> 01:31:30,999 "DADDY, SHOULD WE NOT PLAY IF WE COULD GET HURT?" 1976 01:31:30,999 --> 01:31:32,734 AND I SAID, "WELL, THAT'S YOUR DECISION. 1977 01:31:32,734 --> 01:31:34,735 "YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IF YOU DON'T WANT, 1978 01:31:34,735 --> 01:31:36,872 BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE IN LIFE." 1979 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,576 I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER. I'M NOT 100% SURE. 1980 01:31:42,576 --> 01:31:44,712 SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THAT I'M NOT CONCERNED 1981 01:31:44,712 --> 01:31:48,115 ABOUT THEIR HEALTH OR WELL-BEING, BUT I AM. 1982 01:31:48,115 --> 01:31:52,920 BUT I DON'T LIVE IN FEAR OF THEM GETTING HURT PLAYING SPORT. 1983 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,155 YOU READY TO GO? 1984 01:31:54,155 --> 01:31:56,056 Players: LET'S GO, BOYS! 1985 01:31:56,056 --> 01:31:58,259 IT'S THE ENJOYMENT I SEE IN THEIR FACE 1986 01:31:58,259 --> 01:32:00,060 WHEN THEY'RE DOING IT... 1987 01:32:00,060 --> 01:32:03,863 AND THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME. 1988 01:32:03,863 --> 01:32:05,799 ♪ 1989 01:32:11,370 --> 01:32:13,505 ♪ 1990 01:32:27,386 --> 01:32:31,390 ♪ SLOW POSE 1991 01:32:31,390 --> 01:32:35,027 ♪ AND CROSS-EYED 1992 01:32:35,027 --> 01:32:41,499 ♪ VISIONS OWED TO THE RAILROAD TIES ♪ 1993 01:32:41,499 --> 01:32:46,238 ♪ HUMPBACKS 1994 01:32:46,238 --> 01:32:49,507 ♪ AND SUGAR SHACKS 1995 01:32:49,507 --> 01:32:56,280 ♪ SHOTGUN WED TO THE POISON OF OUR PAST ♪ 1996 01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,817 ♪ A LITTLE LONGER 1997 01:32:59,817 --> 01:33:03,687 ♪ A LITTLE LONGER TO GO 1998 01:33:03,687 --> 01:33:07,424 ♪ WE'VE A LITTLE LONGER ♪ 1999 01:33:07,424 --> 01:33:10,294 ♪ A LITTLE LONGER TO GO 2000 01:33:10,294 --> 01:33:14,431 ♪ I JUST CAN'T HELP SAY SO ♪ 2001 01:33:19,302 --> 01:33:24,440 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME? ♪ 2002 01:33:24,440 --> 01:33:29,312 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME AT ALL? ♪ 2003 01:33:29,312 --> 01:33:33,048 ♪ INTERSPACED, OH 2004 01:33:33,048 --> 01:33:36,452 ♪ AND PIE-FACED, OH 2005 01:33:36,452 --> 01:33:38,254 ♪ YOU CATCH THE MOON 2006 01:33:38,254 --> 01:33:44,093 ♪ I'LL JUST STAND HERE AND RUN IN PLACE ♪ 2007 01:33:44,093 --> 01:33:48,230 ♪ SHELL SHOCKED, OH 2008 01:33:48,230 --> 01:33:51,633 ♪ AND HALF-COCKED, OH 2009 01:33:51,633 --> 01:33:57,238 ♪ THE UNIVERSE IS FULL OF BLACK HOLES ♪ 2010 01:33:57,238 --> 01:34:00,174 ♪ AND ANNIVERSARY NIGHTS 2011 01:34:02,343 --> 01:34:05,747 ♪ A LITTLE LONGER TO GO 2012 01:34:05,747 --> 01:34:09,616 ♪ WE'VE A LITTLE LONGER ♪ 2013 01:34:09,616 --> 01:34:13,354 ♪ A LITTLE LONGER TO GO 2014 01:34:13,354 --> 01:34:16,623 ♪ WE'VE A LITTLE LONGER TO GO ♪ 2015 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:24,231 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME AT ALL? ♪ 2016 01:34:24,231 --> 01:34:26,900 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME? ♪ 2017 01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:31,637 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME AT ALL? ♪ 2018 01:34:31,637 --> 01:34:34,507 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME? ♪ 2019 01:34:34,507 --> 01:34:38,044 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME? ♪ 2020 01:34:38,044 --> 01:34:42,915 ♪ CAN'T YOU SEE ME AT ALL? ♪ 163116

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