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Take one. Mark.
We're ready.
All right. We ready to roll again?
- How's that? - Good.
I just wanted to make a difference, you know?
I mean, I'm not doing this for 15 minutes of fame.
I mean, who'd want to throw themselves
under the train for that?
It's--I just want it to change for women and young girls
to think twice about what they're doing.
'Cause there's always gonna be a guy like Hef
in the--in the wings.
Some of these girls
don't want to bring up those memories.
You know, there's a lot
that don't want to even talk about it.
Ready?
- No. - No?
Okay. Okay.
All right.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
I don't think we know
what Hugh Hefner's legacy is yet, ultimately.
I don't think the dust has even settled.
We have some breaking news for you tonight.
Playboy founder Hugh Hefner has died at the age of 91.
Hefner changed America when he introduced
"Playboy" magazine back in 1953.
He changed the magazine culture.
He changed the American sex culture, if you will.
But that came with some controversy.
Hefner's legacy is very confusing
because he sold women a very seductive package
about sexual freedom
and what that means in our culture.
And yet, there's a lot of hypocrisy around that.
He's like a cipher. You can make him the devil.
You can make him
one of the most important Americans who ever lived.
You can say he celebrated women.
You can say he was a terrible sexist.
He is whatever you want him to be.
I don't think Hefner was a super moral individual.
Hugh Hefner was a transactional man.
He was a businessman.
I think he--I think he was a monster.
I could look at him, and I saw the devil.
My name is Hugh Hefner.
I'm editor/publisher of "Playboy" magazine.
When Hugh Hefner was just 27,
he fashioned himself and "Playboy"
as the face of sexual liberation.
"Playboy" is one of the most famous
brand names in the world.
I would like to be remembered as somebody
who played some positive part
in changing the social, sexual values of my time.
I believe that Hef pulled one over on the whole world.
The fantasy of "Playboy" that he created
did not allow for the consent of the women.
When it came to Hefner's buddies,
you had to keep those secrets quiet.
Whatever you got for free.
When you get someone that powerful,
anything could happen. Anything.
The people who were really there,
they're the ones who know the real truth.
I want to be a voice for the women
that suffered the most at his hands.
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I know. Time for breakfast.
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Time for breakfast?
Who wants breakfast?
Okay.
My name is Jennifer Saginor.
I grew up at the Playboy Mansion.
Since Hefner's death,
I'm noticing that people that were close to "Playboy"
are starting to suddenly go back
and reevaluate their experiences
and they're starting to speak out.
It's taken me a long time to sort of unravel
what I experienced growing up and how it made me feel.
I had a sense of loyalty to this inner sanctum,
to this inner circle that I was initiated into very young.
I didn't want to break that loyalty
because I knew there would be serious consequences.
All right.
It was such a weird, up place.
But, I mean, the truth is that growing up there as a kid,
it was magical.
I was six when I went there for the first time.
When I was 11,
I basically started living there part time.
My father was Hefner's best friend and doctor
for about 40 years and had his own room there as well.
The Mansion was like a magical kingdom.
I could have anything I wanted.
I mean, the game room was unbelievable.
You know, I would literally just take as many gumballs
and M&M's as I wanted.
In the morning, the butlers would make my lunch
and I would get into Hef's limo and go to school.
And there was a zoo on the Mansion property.
All the Playmates would sort of watch over me.
And these girls became sort of substitute mother figures.
Dorothy Stratten used to babysit me.
She was Playmate of the Year.
We used to always, like, play dress up.
We used to just go like roller-skating
on the tennis court.
So, for me, those connections became everything.
I have so many happy memories of myself with Hef.
I remember sitting on my father's knee
while he and Hef were playing backgammon.
We would play pinball in the game room
and Hef would let me put my thumb on top of his.
It just made me feel so special.
Like he was just such a very, like, soft, comforting,
nurturing, sort of, like, you know, paternal figure.
My most special memory is Christmas though.
I just remember like Frank Sinatra
and the music in the background
and the buffet table.
And it was just really a sense of family.
There's something about it that was very free, you know,
and like warm and comforting.
I just don't find that now.
I haven't found that in any point in my life.
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I am so thrilled to be in this beautiful house
where you live, the Playboy Mansion.
Tell me what this house means to you.
Well, first of all, it's home.
I was born and raised, as you know, in Chicago
and have a very lovely home there,
which was the original Playboy Mansion.
But in 1971, I got this house.
And around '75, I just decided to make the move.
It has been referred to by some friends as Shangri La.
The rumor is that you don't get older
once you come through the gates.
I think all of us who were part of the scene
at the Playboy Mansion, there was an unwritten rule.
You left your troubles at the gate.
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You drive up this driveway and the first thing you see
is this fountain which was like a dolphin...
being molested by a baby.
And then you pull up to this great Gothic house.
There's this big wooden door that creaks open.
You know, there were signs about "Playmates at play"
and also, you know, "Careful about the monkeys."
I mean, it was just like arriving
in the strangest Xanadu.
Every man wanted to be there.
Every woman wanted to be there.
The parties were extravagant.
If you open the wrong door,
you're gonna see a whole lot more than you anticipated.
Even in the foliage sometimes.
I mean, the parties, the roller skating,
the tennis matches, volleyball.
There was always something going on that was for fun.
These are the things that people don't understand
about the Playboy Mansion or about Hugh Hefner.
They don't understand what I call the innocent times.
Oh, my God, I remember that party--that's insane.
These are so fun, these parties.
There was something in the air that made you feel
that nobody was judging you.
And many of the women truly enjoyed
not feeling so constricted by our society.
You're free to be whoever you want to be.
Everything was so beautiful.
It was very glamorous.
And it was Hef's world, you know?
Hefner...created it.
He molded it. And he was king.
Much of what Playboy's all about, really,
is a Disneyland for adults,
a projection of those adolescent dreams
and fantasies that I had in growing up
that I've never really lost.
Hugh Hefner was in his own world.
If you look at the photos,
he thought he was the king, the emperor.
We were just servants. Everybody else was invisible.
He didn't want to know our names.
He just gave us directions. We had to memorize them.
He drank around 35, 40 Pepsis a day.
I had to wrap them in a special red napkin
according to the instructions.
He ate mostly M&M's,
2 or 3 pounds a day,
and red licorice.
His condoms were stacked in a certain place
in the headboard.
There were 150 rules.
We had to follow them exactly.
We were told, "You cannot talk to the girls.
"You're not their friend.
You work for Mr. Hefner. You don't work for them."
As a child, I looked up to Hefner
because he had this big magic castle
and he was larger than life, and he was charming,
and everybody loved him,
and he seemed very humble
and was very generous and seemed like,
you know, a really amazing person
who deserved these blessings.
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Years later, I started to realize
that everyone in this environment
put Hef on a pedestal.
And it wasn't genuine.
This was all like an illusion.
Everything you heard about Hefner and "Playboy"
was exactly what his PR agency wanted you to hear.
It was a very calculated misrepresentation of the truth.
Playboy became kind of something more than
just a magazine for me.
It really was a projection of a way of life
and, uh, what we now call an alternate lifestyle,
if you will.
The Playboy Philosophy was like a manifesto.
For him, it was always about individual freedom.
"I should be able to say what I want
"as long as I'm not hurting anybody.
"I should be able to sleep with who I want
as long as I'm not hurting anybody."
The blueprint for "Playboy" can be traced
to his entire life leading up to that point.
Hef was born during the Roaring '20s
and the Jazz Age.
His parents were strict Methodists,
and there wasn't a lot of affection shown in the home.
He came out of the war, got married.
I think you've got to find yourself
before you find your lifelong mate.
And looking around at the repressive society
that existed in America after World War II,
he felt he had things to say.
In 1953, Hugh Hefner was 27 years old,
literally at a card table with a little typewriter.
And he managed to pull together the money
to launch the first edition of "Playboy,"
which they didn't even put a date on it
because they weren't sure there was gonna be a second edition.
Because they had Marilyn Monroe on the cover
and Marilyn Monroe on the inside,
the first issue sold all 50,000 copies immediately.
By the 1970s,
"Playboy" was selling 7 million copies a month.
"Playboy" was classy. It was intoxicating.
There was naked women in there, there was nudity.
But also it was brilliant articles.
It was incisive philosophy. It was leading the culture.
I think the search for a new ethical, you know,
set of moral values based on something
other than simply rigid rules set forth
many, many centuries ago
is something from which only good can come.
In the '50s and '60s,
"Playboy" was instrumental in advancing
the First Amendment and freedom of speech.
And the magazine was able to pursue issues
and social concerns
that just weren't being addressed in American society.
Look at civil rights.
I knew all along
that Hef was a champion of civil rights,
one, because I read the magazine,
so I saw some of the people
that he had done articles with,
including Malcolm X.
Then there were the Playboy Clubs.
So the first Playboy Club opened in 1960,
which was, of course, a time of
tremendous racial segregation in this country.
Hef did not believe in segregation. He didn't.
At the Playboy Clubs, there were Black Bunnies,
there were Black general managers.
This was the way it was.
Hi, and welcome to "Playboy's Penthouse."
Sammy Davis Jr. will be here in a little while.
"Playboy's Penthouse" aired in 1959.
There were very strong Jim Crow laws.
Whites were not allowed to mingle with Blacks
and vice versa.
And yet this Hugh Hefner had the audacity
to let Blacks come on to his television show
and not just sing and be whisked away.
How long have you been singing, Tina?
Well, personally, I've been singing for nine years.
No, he set an egalitarian atmosphere
where Blacks could come and mingle.
Who else was doing that but Hugh Hefner?
As a child, I definitely felt
that message of equality at the Mansion.
There was always an air of acceptance.
Oh, my God. These are like the disco parties
in the foyer,
where I used to watch as a kid on the banister.
When I was around 10 or 11
and I had my own bedroom there,
at night, I would hear loud music,
and I would hear everyone down below partying and having fun.
I would sneak out my bedroom door and down the hallway
and hide behind the banister and look below.
I would see all these Playmates
and women dressed in these beautiful gowns
and sparkly outfits.
And I just couldn't wait to be able to be older
and be down there at the parties with them.
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I'd always heard from a young age
that Hef was someone that was this big,
you know, feminist advocate
and an advocate for women's rights.
I think the primary aims of women's lib,
the part that do not get the publicity
and the TV and newspapers
are things that "Playboy" endorses
and has worked for over the years.
He used to say, "Even nice girls like sex.
They're allowed to like sex."
As a little kid, I was buying it that
these women were empowered and walking around naked
and felt good about their bodies
and the feminists simply didn't get it.
Hugh Hefner is my enemy.
With "Playboy," there's this entire conflict over,
"Are the women expressing themselves freely
or are they being exploited?"
As time went on, I saw some of the inconsistencies.
I saw just all the tremendous hypocrisy.
Mr. Hefner,
you were picketed tonight from Women's Liberation,
and they say that "Playboy" magazine
and this contest distort the role of womanhood.
What's your response to that?
We need more love and more beauty in the world
that already has too much hate and ugliness in it.
I was surprised when, in the '70s,
the feminists were really attacking Hef.
From the point of view of like Hefner, my father,
and the inner circle of the boys club,
they were feeling as if they were being attacked
for absolutely no reason,
that there was a witch hunt going on against them.
There's something wrong when an attractive girl
can make more money as a Playboy Bunny
or a cover girl than anything else.
"Playboy's" greatest critics throughout its history
have been members of the moral rights.
And, you know, what Hugh Hefner would have described
as "radical feminists."
They opposed the objectification of women
that was central to "Playboy's" existence.
I'm more in sympathy than perhaps, you know,
the girls realize with--
- Women. - Women.
- I'm sorry. - Yes, I'm 35.
Than the ladies realize.
I use girls referring to women of all ages.
- You should stop. - You want to be called a boy?
- Would you like to-- - Oh, I see. Okay.
I'd always felt it was complimentary, but--
That's because your magazine is an image of women
at an arrested development.
Well, let me--
On "The Dick Cavett Show," Hefner was there.
And there was a woman, she was very, very angry and saying,
"How could you do this to women?
How could you objectify women in such a demeaning manner?"
You know, and he just sat there just as cool as ice.
Hefner was classy.
Hefner was educated and refined.
So for me to align myself with "Playboy" magazine,
it was okay.
I was Miss January 1973. My photos were gorgeous.
And then I became director of Playmate Promotions.
At that point in time,
I wasn't interested in marriage.
But I was interested in Playboy Enterprises,
because women were taking their power.
They were in command of themselves.
So I thought, "Well, wow! wow! That's good to me."
And it went along with the sexual revolution
that was going on.
I had a lot of power, a lot of freedom.
It was freedom, you know?
My Bunny name was Bunny Jaki.
And I started working at Playboy in 1967
for 11 1/2 years.
We definitely got paid well.
And I bought a car, and I lived the way I wanted to.
We had more freedom than as a secretary or as a teacher.
It's 1981. I'm in Chicago as the Bunny Mother.
I had 70 Bunnies underneath me.
We did a lot of things to help rise these girls up.
And it was exciting to me because I knew
that I could move up the ladder in corporate.
There were oftentimes when I would be interviewed
by a strong feminist.
And she would come at me really hard.
And I would just, "Mm-hmm. Yeah."
And I would answer and let them know
that I was definitely in charge of my life
and this was my choice.
Now, of course, it came at a cost.
But at that moment in time, I didn't know about that.
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I didn't realize what was going on at the time,
that "Playboy" really wasn't about freedom of expression.
This wasn't about, like, female empowerment.
This was something that was much deeper,
that was much more sinister.
At the Mansion, back in like the '70s
and the early '80s, it was the women and the men.
The girls weren't allowed to hang out with the men.
But I was allowed to sit with them.
And I'd always see the men looking at different
negatives of girls from different shoots.
They would sort of quiz me on how to critique a girl
that they would consider up to their standards.
And so I would rattle off, you know, what I knew
that they were looking for, whether it was a size D,
which doctor would do the boob job,
who would do the nose job,
what their entire physique should look like,
and what size everything should be.
For sure, it was always size zero.
I was trained how to view women
in the way that they did--
as commodities.
I mean, my father used to tell me that I should,
you know, I had to watch it 'cause--you know,
'cause I could like gain weight in my hips or--
he would definitely, like, at a young age,
you know, go over our bodies with us, with my sister and I.
That was of course nerve-racking
'cause I don't think either one of us felt like
we measured up to what was considered to be acceptable.
They even pushed me-- I got my own surgery.
15.
It was just awful.
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As I got older,
I would creep out of my bedroom more and more.
I was just very curious
what was happening in all the bedrooms down the hall.
And I would see some of these girls
doing things that I didn't recognize.
I would see them naked with men all around them
and I would see them on the floor on all fours
and they were on drugs.
And it--it just really--it scared me.
The men were laughing.
And I just remembered thinking I never want to be
like these girls running around like they're animals.
I just--I never want to be that.
This wasn't about empowerment of women.
It was the breaking down of a woman.
Cody.
As a teenager, I started to notice
that all the Playmates
and Hefner's different girlfriends
were very open with their sexuality.
And there was something about it that drew me in.
It was a very open environment
of where love and sex had very blurred lines.
So if you love someone,
it was you were supposed to be more intimate with them,
I think, sexually.
You know, Hef always would kiss--which many people know,
he would kiss with sort of his mouth open
in sort of like a French kiss kind of a way.
And I always thought it was sort of strange
that, you know, someone that was sort of
was like my uncle would kiss like that.
But then my father told me
that that's what people do when they love each other.
I think you're gonna have very moral relationships
with more than one person at the same time
or with a sequence of--
or continuing series of relationships.
Why was there so many girls?
Hef was the playboy of the Western world.
Why should he stop at one
when he could have as many as he did?
He would say, "I want to attract the young ladies
"who want to run with me in my life.
I'm not gonna run with them in their life."
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Back in the late '70s, there was always
at least three to four main girlfriends.
There was always one that was the special one.
This is what they called them.
And those other girls
were always wanting to be that special one.
Tell me about the real Hugh Hefner,
the one the rest of us don't know.
He's very sensitive. He's very caring and giving.
When I was 15, I fell in love
with one of Hugh Hefner's main girlfriends.
I'm gonna call her Kendall.
I fell very hard because I was so young.
You know, Jennifer was incredibly infatuated
with, uh, with Mr. Hefner's girlfriend.
I mean, really infatuated with her.
She was very sweet, very innocent.
You know, she was innocent. She was 15 or 16 years old.
We, over time, became very close
because she was someone who ran away very young.
And because my father had pulled me away from my mother,
I longed for that affection that only a woman could give.
And Kendall was very affectionate.
I mean, one night, she ordered like daiquiris.
And one thing led to another.
And I think she thought that I had been with a girl before.
It really took away the loneliness at that time.
I served Mr. Hefner's girlfriend
and Jennifer drinks in bed.
I said, "Here are your drinks, ladies."
I was very professional. And they said,
"Mitch, you know, you can say hello, it's okay."
And I said, "I'm gonna go back downstairs, ladies. Thank you."
The people that knew knew that Jennifer was underage.
I mean, I wanted to say something to her.
But I--I held back.
It was something that I didn't--I just didn't push.
I didn't really think there was anything necessarily wrong
with what I did.
You know, from my father and Hefner's point of view,
they really didn't care about my having the affair
with his girlfriend.
He knew about the affair from the beginning.
I mean, there's cameras everywhere.
A lot of the cameras, you didn't even know
they were there, but they were there.
And also security was carrying cameras on their jackets.
So there's eyes everywhere.
When I was 17, I was called to Hef's room.
I thought he was gonna confront me about the affair.
I was just--I wanted to see Kendall so badly.
And she said the only way we could see each other
is if you come to Hef's room, Hef said.
One of her friends, who's also a Playmate,
walked me to his door.
And then she stopped me and she's like, you know,
"I just want to tell you that you don't have to do anything
that you don't want to do."
I was like, "What do you mean?"
And then I went in and then Hef ordered drinks.
And then we were just sitting there.
And the energy shifted in the room,
and I started feeling uncomfortable.
I was still immature emotionally,
even though I'd been exposed to so many things.
So when I went in the room,
and he and Kendall were on the bed.
And I just thought it was fun, at first.
I didn't really realize what was about to happen.
I felt like, in that moment, Hefner crossed a boundary
because he'd always looked at me
and treated me like I was his daughter.
And here I was in his room
feeling this uncomfortable energy
that I was no longer being looked at as a daughter.
And then Kendall started crying.
And then she ran into the bathroom.
And then he said, "Well, now we're not gonna do anything
'cause she's crying or whatever."
And I was like, "Yeah." And my dad's down the hall.
And he's like, you know, "We're all family here."
And then I left and went back to my room.
I don't think that she knew
what was really going on up there
until she actually experienced being up there.
And she got a--she got,
you know, a crash course in doing that.
We're at the Playboy Mansion, this is--this is--this is real,
this is some real
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All right, good boy.
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Growing up, it's like I never wanted to go
against what my father or Hef or the environment taught me
was actually something that was normal, I guess.
When I got to college
and I started to integrate into society,
I didn't understand how these rules
that I had learned from a very young age
had nothing to do with the outside world.
You know, I didn't really talk about it a lot with people.
So writing it down was a way for me to express myself.
Joining me now is Jennifer Saginor.
She grew up inside the Playboy Mansion
and is the author of the book "Playground."
"Playground" was something that I wrote about
to sort of work out out my own issues
of what I had seen and experienced.
I was always taught that it was okay to speak your mind.
Yet I also knew that a certain level of loyalty
went along with belonging into this inner circle.
There was some level of fear
that there would be repercussions
for breaking that loyalty.
And so I went out of my way to betray Hef
in a very, very positive light,
as someone who was a father figure,
who I did look up to for many, many years.
When my book came out,
I did a couple of interviews in Los Angeles.
And Hef called me and he said,
"Congratulations, I heard that you wrote a book,
And I'm so proud of you."
He said, "But listen, if you could just do me a favor
and not tell anybody
that I knew about your affair with Kendall."
He's like, "I would just really appreciate
if we just kept that between us."
He didn't want people knowing
that a minor had an affair on his property.
And I was like, "Sure. You know, no problem."
He said, "Could you fax over a list
of your next interviews?" And I said, "Sure. Of course."
I went to New York, and then literally, in succession,
the interviews were canceled, like, one by one.
It was like something out of a mafia movie.
Well, I know what happened.
I know that he--that he had someone in his office call
and contact those people and stop those interviews.
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I was really crushed
'cause I no longer could, you know, speak my truth.
It was just so hypocritical
because freedom of speech and the First Amendment
had been something that he was an advocate for
his entire adult life.
And that made me, you know,
question who I thought my father was
and who I thought Hef was.
And I really thought these men were larger than life.
They knew everybody, they were so well connected,
and just, you know, really just enlightened beings.
And I realized that this was something much bigger
that he didn't want people to know what was really going on.
When I was an editorial assistant
working for the articles editor,
different books would get vetted by him.
He was looking for things in those books
that would hurt Hefner's reputation.
I read everything that came through.
There's some things that I read about
that never saw the light of day.
Over time, I realized
I was just one of the many people who were silenced.
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I worked in six clubs. Every club had a scandal.
At least one if not many more.
I had to keep my mouth closed if I wanted to keep my job.
There's a lot of collateral damage
within the Playboy organization--a lot.
And the majority of the collateral damage
is towards women.
Things were done to shush people up,
to get them out of the way.
He wasn't worried about the local L.A. cops.
Many of these police worked for him as security guards.
Most of the security officers that were hired
were ex-cops.
Some of them were L.A. cops.
Some of them were Beverly Hills cops.
Some of them were detectives.
So it was very--it was very serious.
You gotta protect the Mansion, you gotta protect, you know,
especially, number one, Mr. Hefner.
A lot of things were just taken care of in his world.
The thing is he had tapes on everybody.
I have extensive electronic equipment in the house,
which includes videotape equipment.
And that does include cameras so that
if I want to shoot pictures of anything, I can, yes.
- Do you? - Do I shoot pictures?
I mean, what is it doing in your bedroom?
Sometimes things happen in the bedroom
that I'd like to take-- - You're being coy.
Prim, I might add. - We're on television.
Every room, even outside on the properties,
every place had microphones and little cameras.
Many of the girls wanted to tell you their problems,
and that made us all very nervous.
We had to be very careful
because we know we were being monitored.
He lets the media into all these parties on purpose
because usually they end up doing something
they'll regret,
and he's got that on them, so down the road,
if anything was gonna come out negative about him,
he'd just say, "I don't think so.
Remember this?"
And then all of a sudden it goes away.
It was cult-like.
The women had been groomed
and led to believe they were part of this family.
And he really did believe he owned these women.
We had Playmates that overdosed.
There were Playmates that committed suicide.
I really thought that if I wrote a book,
maybe all of this stuff would go away,
maybe it would stop.
Hefner even sent someone to buy me off.
When you get someone that powerful to be that fearful,
anything could happen. Anything.
I had a bodyguard.
I was that afraid.
I got threatened.
"You're not gonna put this book out.
"We can find you anywhere you go.
You can't hide from us." It was very frightening.
My life itself is just an invention.
It's just a very clever marketing ploy
that happens to work out very well for me and the company.
For the author.
Everybody knew that Hefner was a very powerful person.
No one believed anything that a young girl would say
because you were a nobody.
And they were the big somebodies with money,
with lawyers, and you were shut down.
We would tell these stories 40 years ago
and people didn't believe it.
Bill Cosby was there. Oh, he's America's Dad.
I mean, there's just--no one would believe those women.
For years.
It was a beautiful world, and to him, beautiful girls,
beautiful people, beautiful food, beautiful everything.
But it--it looked that way, but it was ugly.
It was really ugly.
This was built to look like paradise.
But in reality, paradise is not all it's made out to be.
The LAPD's investigating a possible sexual assault
this weekend at the Playboy Mansion,
home of hedonism and Hugh Hefner.
I have no doubt that terrible things happened at the Mansion.
Of course, it did.
It would be naive to say it didn't.
But I think Hefner would have resented
being associated with it.
I think he would say he was the cause of the good things
and then people took it too far.
There was various scandals
associated with "Playboy" over the years.
There was Bobbie Arnstein's suicide.
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There was Dorothy Stratten's murder.
Her death was just so sad and devastating and shocking.
There were other girls and models and Playmates who died,
but they just were things that you never talked about.
All of these scandals and whispers
about what happened at the Mansion and at Playboy,
Hef remained untouched by any of it.
He was like Teflon. Nothing touched him.
Over time, I started to realize
"Playboy" was run as this big marketing machine
where he was in the center of it,
and if it started to affect poorly on him,
it starts to affect poorly on "Playboy."
This was a very sophisticated structure
within Playboy Enterprises
that his own machinery kept into place.
Everyone had a job to keep Hefner protected.
They wanted to control the narrative.
They wanted to control how people viewed "Playboy"
and how they viewed Hef.
But the people who were really there,
they're the ones who know the real truth.
His legacy should comprise the whole story,
not just part of it that he projected,
not his publicity machine
but from the women who experienced him.
It's time that the illusion is broken.
There was a very dark, dark side of "Playboy"
that nobody wants to talk about
because they want to live in that bubble.
You know, when he passed away three years ago,
I said to Stefan, you know, "Maybe you should revive
the book now that the MeToo movement is here."
When it happened, I thought, you know,
Hefner missed by a month
of being in the same seat as Weinstein
and all those other powerful men in Hollywood.
I'm ready now. I'm empowered.
I'm empowered to tell my story.
I'm not afraid to speak up any longer.
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What I want to say to Hefner is
you destroyed a lot of lives.
You were power hungry.
You didn't care about the lives of these women.
You didn't care what happened to these girls.
It was all about what people
perceived about you, Hefner.
And it was all a lie.
Holly was Hef's number one girlfriend.
In about 2013, I started to feel like
I needed to get my story out.
I was one of Hugh Hefner's multiple girlfriends,
and I starred in a show called "The Girls Next Door."
We were three women dating the same man.
Are there rules like, "Can you have boyfriends at all?"
- No. - No.
- You're not allowed to? - Hef is our boyfriend.
There was definitely no, like, romance or seduction.
It was all very mechanical and robotic.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't traumatized by it.
You had a 9:00 curfew.
You weren't really allowed to leave.
Looking back on my time at Playboy,
it reminds me of a cult.
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