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It's, like, swimming perfectly. 13 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:47,630 Powerful, it's on the right current. 14 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:48,923 [crowd cheering] 15 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:51,009 [Meghan] And one day this little organism comes in. 16 00:00:53,511 --> 00:00:55,388 [woman 1] She's independent, she's quite feisty. 17 00:00:55,472 --> 00:00:58,308 -[woman 2] She's a controlling woman. -[woman 1] Ooh! 18 00:00:58,391 --> 00:01:02,520 This foreign organism. And the entire thing goes… 19 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:03,521 [squeals] 20 00:01:04,773 --> 00:01:06,900 "What is that? What is it doing here?" 21 00:01:06,983 --> 00:01:08,943 "It doesn't look like us. It doesn't move like us." 22 00:01:09,027 --> 00:01:10,820 "We don't like it. Get it off of us." 23 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:11,946 [calm music plays] 24 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:15,533 -[woman 1] There's polarized opinions-- -[woman 2] I say it's doomed. 25 00:01:16,451 --> 00:01:19,204 [woman 3] People are so cynical before the people are even married. 26 00:01:19,287 --> 00:01:22,165 Give the couple a chance for goodness sake. They're obviously in love. 27 00:01:22,248 --> 00:01:23,166 [woman 4] I agree. 28 00:01:26,294 --> 00:01:28,254 [Meghan] And she just explained that, you know, 29 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:32,759 they'll soon see that it's stronger, faster, 30 00:01:32,842 --> 00:01:35,345 even better, with this organism as part of it. 31 00:01:35,428 --> 00:01:39,474 It will be hard at the beginning for them to adjust to this new thing… 32 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:43,394 but then it'll be amazing. 33 00:01:44,354 --> 00:01:47,148 [woman 5] Times are changing. She's the first ever global princess. 34 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:50,151 [woman 6] I think what she and Harry are going to be capable of 35 00:01:50,235 --> 00:01:51,486 is going to be quite impressive. 36 00:01:51,569 --> 00:01:54,364 [woman 7] This couple is the one that is gonna change 37 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:56,783 the face of the royal family for me. 38 00:02:00,495 --> 00:02:02,455 And I was really hopeful that that was true. 39 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:07,377 [emotive theme music playing] 40 00:02:42,954 --> 00:02:47,667 [emotive theme music finishes] 41 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:04,184 [Meghan] On the day of our wedding, 42 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:07,937 it's like I went into a really calm space. 43 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:11,900 I don't know how I was so calm. 44 00:03:12,525 --> 00:03:14,485 I look back and, "How was I so calm?" 45 00:03:15,153 --> 00:03:19,324 And all I wanted was a mimosa, a croissant 46 00:03:19,407 --> 00:03:22,619 and, uh, to play the song, "Going to the Chapel." 47 00:03:23,328 --> 00:03:26,206 And that's what I did. And it was great. 48 00:03:26,289 --> 00:03:28,833 ♪ Going to the chapel ♪ 49 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:33,880 ♪ And we're gonna get married ♪ 50 00:03:33,963 --> 00:03:38,760 ♪ Going to the chapel of love… ♪ 51 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:41,846 [bell jingling] 52 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:44,891 Oyez! Oyez! Oyez! 53 00:03:44,974 --> 00:03:48,770 It's Harry and Meghan's big day. God save the Queen. 54 00:03:48,853 --> 00:03:51,731 [bell jingling] 55 00:03:51,814 --> 00:03:54,651 [female presenter 1] We can take you now to Windsor town center 56 00:03:54,734 --> 00:03:56,653 where the streets are packed. 57 00:03:57,278 --> 00:04:00,990 Everybody's going crazy. Yeah, everybody's wedding mad. 58 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:04,202 [crowd cheering] 59 00:04:04,285 --> 00:04:09,290 The crowd. It was just literally like you were in the biggest football stadium. 60 00:04:09,374 --> 00:04:11,626 This massive, massive roar. 61 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:13,711 [crowd cheering] 62 00:04:13,795 --> 00:04:18,341 It's estimated that 115,000 people will be here in Windsor. 63 00:04:18,424 --> 00:04:20,134 [speaking Korean] 64 00:04:20,218 --> 00:04:22,845 [speaking Spanish] 65 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:25,807 [speaking Arabic] 66 00:04:26,641 --> 00:04:29,686 [Heather Dorak] Everything was big and spectacular. 67 00:04:29,769 --> 00:04:32,605 I mean it was just, like, hard to even comprehend 68 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:35,149 that I'm actually a part of this event. 69 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:37,485 ♪ Going to the chapel… ♪ 70 00:04:37,568 --> 00:04:40,655 It's like… this is crazy, like absolutely crazy. 71 00:04:40,738 --> 00:04:43,157 ["Going to the Chapel" continues] 72 00:04:43,241 --> 00:04:45,535 ♪ Bells will ring ♪ 73 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:49,414 ♪ Ah ah ah, sun will shine ♪ 74 00:04:49,497 --> 00:04:53,001 ♪ Whoa oh oh, I'll be his… ♪ 75 00:04:53,084 --> 00:04:57,130 [Meghan] So I knew that when I got to the actual castle… 76 00:04:57,213 --> 00:05:00,466 How funny is that to say? "When I got to the castle for my wedding." 77 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:03,177 Um, that there'd be tons of people. What I didn't know was 78 00:05:03,261 --> 00:05:06,931 people would be lining both sides of the street. 79 00:05:07,015 --> 00:05:09,183 I mean, this was a 15-minute drive. 80 00:05:10,226 --> 00:05:11,394 Me and my mom were like, 81 00:05:11,477 --> 00:05:14,856 "What is going on? Look at all these people!" 82 00:05:15,898 --> 00:05:19,736 Everyone's got their phones out. There we go. Wow! Look at that. 83 00:05:19,819 --> 00:05:21,070 ♪ Married ♪ 84 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:23,781 ♪ Going to the chapel… ♪ 85 00:05:23,865 --> 00:05:27,076 [Harry] There was an expectation, right? Diana's boy. 86 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,538 There was an expectation to have a public wedding. 87 00:05:30,621 --> 00:05:32,623 It was like, "Mission complete with William." 88 00:05:32,707 --> 00:05:35,960 "Now, let's see if this goes the distance with Harry 89 00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:38,254 and then we can actually go, 'Job done.'" 90 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:39,547 [crowd cheering] 91 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:42,508 -[female presenter] Here she comes. -[male presenter] Here comes the bride. 92 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:49,098 ♪ Going to the chapel of love ♪ 93 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:51,893 ♪Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 94 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:57,523 [male presenter] This is when you finally get to see that dress. 95 00:05:57,607 --> 00:06:00,610 [crowd cheering] 96 00:06:04,072 --> 00:06:06,741 [Clare Waight Keller] Looking at the design of the dress… 97 00:06:09,744 --> 00:06:11,704 there were many conversations we had 98 00:06:11,788 --> 00:06:15,375 over how you want to present yourself to the world. 99 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:20,254 I mean, most of us have a wedding with, you know, 70 to 200 people. 100 00:06:20,338 --> 00:06:23,841 This was billions of people watching this wedding. [laughing] 101 00:06:25,426 --> 00:06:28,429 It has to be flawless, it has to be perfect. 102 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:36,312 [stately intro music plays] 103 00:06:47,698 --> 00:06:51,953 [Meghan] I just remember thinking, "Just take a deep breath and keep going." 104 00:06:52,036 --> 00:06:55,456 [female voice vocalizing] 105 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:59,544 [Meghan] And you chose the song I walked down the aisle to. 106 00:07:00,128 --> 00:07:01,087 [Harry] Yep. 107 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:05,091 [Meghan] Which was stunning. That was so beautiful. 108 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:12,557 [Harry] My father helped us choose an orchestra, 109 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,142 which made all the difference. 110 00:07:15,476 --> 00:07:19,689 [vocalizing] 111 00:07:25,528 --> 00:07:27,488 [Meghan] Harry's dad is very charming. 112 00:07:29,157 --> 00:07:34,078 And… I said to him, like, 113 00:07:35,204 --> 00:07:37,039 "I've lost my dad in this." 114 00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:43,546 So, him as my father-in-law was really important to me. 115 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:48,885 So I asked him to walk me down the aisle and he said yes. 116 00:07:52,054 --> 00:07:53,723 The whole thing was surreal. 117 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:56,767 It was at that moment, I could also see H. 118 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:05,067 [interviewer] What was going through your head when you saw her coming? 119 00:08:06,944 --> 00:08:08,696 Look at… Look at me, look what I got. 120 00:08:08,779 --> 00:08:11,407 -[Meghan laughing] Oh my gosh. -Look what I… look what I found. 121 00:08:12,408 --> 00:08:13,784 [inaudible] 122 00:08:16,204 --> 00:08:19,373 [Harry] The world was watching us, but when we were actually at the altar, 123 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:21,751 as far as I was concerned, it was just the two of us. 124 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:28,799 [inaudible conversation] 125 00:08:30,301 --> 00:08:36,516 [Meghan] H and I are really, really good at finding each other in the chaos. 126 00:08:38,518 --> 00:08:42,355 When we find each other, we reconnect to, like, "Oh it's you. It's you." 127 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:47,985 It's not that the rest of it doesn't matter, but… 128 00:08:49,737 --> 00:08:51,864 The rest of it feels temporary. 129 00:08:55,076 --> 00:09:00,081 It felt like a moment where the world paused and celebrated love. 130 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:05,878 I remember watching him look at her, 131 00:09:06,754 --> 00:09:09,715 and I almost started to cry, 132 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:11,300 and I was like, "No Vicky, don't cry!" 133 00:09:12,134 --> 00:09:16,222 ♪ I won't cry, I won't cry ♪ 134 00:09:16,305 --> 00:09:21,519 ♪ No, I won't shed a tear… ♪ 135 00:09:21,602 --> 00:09:25,106 [Clare Waight Keller] The whole ceremony was something quite unique. 136 00:09:25,856 --> 00:09:29,986 A gospel choir. That had never been part of a royal wedding before. 137 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:32,113 ♪ So darling, darling stand… ♪ 138 00:09:32,196 --> 00:09:34,407 [Harry] There wasn't too much pushback on that. 139 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:35,408 No. 140 00:09:35,491 --> 00:09:38,160 Everyone was like, "Gospel choir. Wonderful idea. That's great." 141 00:09:38,244 --> 00:09:41,664 And again, more help from, from, uh, from my dad on that one. 142 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:43,541 [Meghan] Yeah, said that they could just 143 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:45,459 take the best people from certain gospel choirs 144 00:09:45,543 --> 00:09:46,419 and put them together. 145 00:09:47,336 --> 00:09:50,715 And that's how Kingdom Choir came to be, and they're great. 146 00:09:50,798 --> 00:09:56,137 ♪ Trouble, won't you stand by me… ♪ 147 00:09:56,220 --> 00:10:00,016 [Serena Williams] To have her culture represented in that wedding, 148 00:10:00,099 --> 00:10:01,767 amazing, I loved it. 149 00:10:01,851 --> 00:10:07,315 And I thought it was really courageous and breaking boundaries but not trying to. 150 00:10:07,398 --> 00:10:11,152 -♪ Stand by me ♪ -♪ So darling, darling ♪ 151 00:10:11,235 --> 00:10:16,240 We had this massive moment where myself, Oprah, Idris Elba and his partner, 152 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:19,702 we all looked at each other for a brief moment and had a little bit of a chuckle. 153 00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:21,579 And nobody needed to say anything, 154 00:10:21,662 --> 00:10:26,459 because everybody knew exactly the layers of symbolism 155 00:10:26,542 --> 00:10:28,085 that were taking place that day. 156 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:30,171 [Gospel music playing] 157 00:10:30,254 --> 00:10:32,548 ♪ This little light of mine ♪ 158 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:34,425 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 159 00:10:34,508 --> 00:10:37,136 ♪ Oh, this little light of mine ♪ 160 00:10:37,219 --> 00:10:38,971 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 161 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:41,974 ♪ I say, this little light of mine ♪ 162 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:43,768 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 163 00:10:43,851 --> 00:10:47,855 ♪ Let it shine Let it shine, let it shine ♪ 164 00:10:49,106 --> 00:10:51,275 ♪ Oh, in my home ♪ 165 00:10:51,359 --> 00:10:53,027 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 166 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:55,821 ♪ You know, oh, in my home ♪ 167 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:57,740 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 168 00:10:57,823 --> 00:11:00,785 ♪ I say, oh, in my home ♪ 169 00:11:00,868 --> 00:11:02,328 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 170 00:11:02,411 --> 00:11:06,415 ♪ Let it shine Let it shine, let it shine ♪ 171 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:08,167 [crowd cheering] 172 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:10,044 ♪ This little light of mine ♪ 173 00:11:10,127 --> 00:11:11,796 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 174 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:15,007 ♪ Oh, this little light of mine ♪ 175 00:11:15,091 --> 00:11:16,384 ♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪ 176 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:19,428 ♪ I said, this little light of mine ♪ 177 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:21,889 [crowd cheering] 178 00:11:21,972 --> 00:11:25,601 [bell jingling] 179 00:11:26,894 --> 00:11:29,689 And then we had the reception at St. George's Hall. 180 00:11:29,772 --> 00:11:35,986 [stately music playing] 181 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:38,322 -We cut cake. With a sword. -With a sword. [laughing] 182 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:40,324 With a sword. 183 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:44,620 [Meghan] It was great. It was all so over the top. 184 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:48,332 I think most people were just like, "What is happening?" Elton John's performing. 185 00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:52,586 I couldn't find my mom because she had beelined to the stage to watch Elton sing. 186 00:12:08,644 --> 00:12:10,896 I just really wanted the music to be fun. 187 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:12,189 Even our first dance. 188 00:12:12,273 --> 00:12:14,233 -Song of a thousand, uh, dances? -Thousands… 189 00:12:14,316 --> 00:12:16,485 A thousand… Help, I always get it wrong. 190 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:18,654 ["Land of a Thousand Dances" by Wilson Pickett playing] 191 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,197 ♪ One two three ♪ 192 00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:28,873 ♪ Ow, uh, all right, uh! ♪ 193 00:12:29,623 --> 00:12:31,542 ♪ Got to know how to pony ♪ 194 00:12:32,376 --> 00:12:34,044 ♪ Like Bony Maronie ♪ 195 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:37,757 -♪ Mash potato ♪ -There you go. 196 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,175 ♪ Do the alligator ♪ 197 00:12:39,258 --> 00:12:41,469 That was our first dance. It was so fun. 198 00:12:41,552 --> 00:12:44,597 I was just spinning like a whirlwind. It was so great. 199 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:51,896 It was just brilliant. It was how every wedding should be. 200 00:12:53,981 --> 00:12:55,191 [woman] Meg was madly in love. 201 00:12:55,274 --> 00:13:00,070 ♪ Na na na na na na na na na na… ♪ 202 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:03,407 Meg and I would always sign off on our texts, "Love wins." 203 00:13:03,491 --> 00:13:07,286 ♪ Na na na na na na na na na na ♪ 204 00:13:07,369 --> 00:13:08,662 [Silver] Love won. 205 00:13:13,334 --> 00:13:16,045 [soft music playing] 206 00:13:19,173 --> 00:13:20,424 [James Holt] Someone said to me, 207 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:24,595 "If you were writing the royal family story as a novel, 208 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:27,598 it's almost at this point in its history 209 00:13:27,681 --> 00:13:31,769 that you would want to be writing in a new character like Meghan." 210 00:13:33,771 --> 00:13:36,941 It needed a boost of energy. 211 00:13:38,734 --> 00:13:44,698 A modernization that would speak to a new generation of people. 212 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:49,036 [indistinct conversation] 213 00:13:55,876 --> 00:13:57,253 [Harry] Oh my God. 214 00:13:58,587 --> 00:13:59,797 It's my favorite video. 215 00:14:00,756 --> 00:14:03,968 Thursday afternoon. Someone's happy. 216 00:14:05,469 --> 00:14:08,639 As far as people were concerned, we were living in a palace. We were. In a cottage. 217 00:14:08,722 --> 00:14:10,182 We were living on palace grounds. 218 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:14,812 [Meghan] Yeah. Kensington Palace sounds very regal. Of course it does. 219 00:14:14,895 --> 00:14:19,483 It says "palace" in the name, but Nottingham Cottage was so small. 220 00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:21,652 The whole thing's on a slight lean. 221 00:14:22,236 --> 00:14:25,281 Really low ceilings, I don't know who it was for. They must have been short. 222 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:29,618 [Meghan] He would hit his head constantly in that place 'cause he's so tall. 223 00:14:30,411 --> 00:14:32,955 Me with a hoe, and H varnishing. 224 00:14:33,998 --> 00:14:38,043 It was just a chapter in our lives where I don't think anyone could believe 225 00:14:38,127 --> 00:14:40,296 what it was actually like behind the scenes. 226 00:14:40,921 --> 00:14:43,382 [Harry] Well, Oprah came over for tea, didn't she? 227 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:45,551 -She did. -When she came in, 228 00:14:45,634 --> 00:14:47,970 she sat down, she goes, "No one would ever believe it." 229 00:14:48,053 --> 00:14:51,056 "No one would ever believe it." [laughing] 230 00:14:53,934 --> 00:14:55,519 [Harry laughing] 231 00:15:01,358 --> 00:15:03,694 [Meghan] My first official engagement with Her Majesty 232 00:15:03,777 --> 00:15:06,071 was very early on after we got married. 233 00:15:08,282 --> 00:15:12,995 We took the royal train together and we had breakfast that morning. 234 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:16,206 [man] Your Majesty, thank you so much for coming back to Cheshire. 235 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:20,002 And, um… I had a really great time with her. 236 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:24,131 [soft classical music playing] 237 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:31,388 [interviewer] What do you talk about with the Queen of England? 238 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:36,769 [Meghan] I treated her as my husband's grandma. 239 00:15:37,728 --> 00:15:39,563 And knowing that, of course, there has to be 240 00:15:39,647 --> 00:15:43,442 a completely different sense of propriety and whatnot in public. 241 00:15:44,568 --> 00:15:47,988 When you're sitting and having breakfast, to just be able to talk. 242 00:15:50,074 --> 00:15:53,285 I mean, when we got into the car in-between engagements, 243 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,371 she had a blanket and she put it over my knees 244 00:15:55,454 --> 00:15:57,873 and we're sitting in the car with this blanket and I thought, 245 00:15:58,374 --> 00:16:01,627 "I recognize and respect and see that you are the queen, 246 00:16:02,419 --> 00:16:08,050 but in this moment, I'm so grateful that there's a grandmother figure." 247 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:12,221 "Because that feels like family." 248 00:16:15,891 --> 00:16:18,394 And because I was so, so close with my grandmother 249 00:16:18,477 --> 00:16:20,938 and I took care of her in her final years. 250 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:30,322 Yeah. It was really… It was such a… Such a good day. We laughed. 251 00:16:31,115 --> 00:16:33,784 [female presenter] Meghan had the Queen in stitches of laughter. 252 00:16:33,867 --> 00:16:36,996 You don't often see the Queen in giggles. 253 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:47,673 [Meghan] That day happened to be the one-year anniversary of the Grenfell fire. 254 00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:52,511 [male presenter] The Queen and the Duchess of Sussex remembering Grenfell in Chester. 255 00:16:52,594 --> 00:16:57,099 [female presenter] Seventy-two seconds of silence. One for every life lost. 256 00:16:59,768 --> 00:17:03,439 [Meghan] It was really important to me because I had become so close 257 00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:06,191 with so many of the women who had survived that, 258 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:08,235 even though no one knew that at the time. 259 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:14,825 [melancholic music playing] 260 00:17:17,077 --> 00:17:20,664 [female presenter] Beneath a still moon, a blaze of such ferocity 261 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:22,541 it is almost filmic. 262 00:17:25,502 --> 00:17:27,546 [Meghan] The Grenfell fire was horrendous. 263 00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:29,548 We were watching it on the news. 264 00:17:30,132 --> 00:17:32,426 [female reporter 1] Residents have complained for years 265 00:17:32,509 --> 00:17:36,013 that their concerns about safety at the flats were simply being ignored. 266 00:17:36,096 --> 00:17:38,807 [female reporter 2] One key question was whether council budget cuts 267 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:40,476 were in any way to blame. 268 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:48,734 Grenfell has a very high immigrant population 269 00:17:48,817 --> 00:17:51,153 and is a deprived area of London. 270 00:17:51,737 --> 00:17:54,364 And it is a direct neighbor to Kensington, 271 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:57,159 one of the richest boroughs in the UK. 272 00:18:01,205 --> 00:18:03,582 The Grenfell fire left so many families displaced, 273 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,919 outside of how many deaths it caused. 274 00:18:07,836 --> 00:18:10,964 And, I remember saying, "Well, can we do something?" 275 00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:12,716 "We need to go down there and do something." 276 00:18:14,384 --> 00:18:17,596 And so, I connected with the women at Al-Manaar, 277 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:19,807 which is a mosque in Grenfell. 278 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:23,685 They were living in these hotels and just given meal vouchers for fast food. 279 00:18:24,186 --> 00:18:26,230 I started cooking at age of seven, 280 00:18:27,356 --> 00:18:29,775 for at least 30 to 50 every day. 281 00:18:30,692 --> 00:18:34,655 But after the fire happened, we stayed in the hotel for 19 months. 282 00:18:35,989 --> 00:18:38,367 Eating takeaway, like day and night. 283 00:18:39,076 --> 00:18:43,747 So I walked into the local mosque and I asked if I could use the kitchen to cook. 284 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:47,751 [indistinct conversation] 285 00:18:50,003 --> 00:18:53,382 [Munira] The whole idea was just to try and feel normal again. 286 00:18:54,174 --> 00:18:57,427 For a few hours, forget that something happened. 287 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:02,516 The first few months, it was twice a week, 288 00:19:03,392 --> 00:19:04,309 up until… 289 00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:07,604 the Duchess came. 290 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:11,358 [soft music playing] 291 00:19:12,526 --> 00:19:16,822 [crowd cheering] 292 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:21,577 When the Duchess came in, you know, we like to kiss. 293 00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:25,622 Three kisses on the cheek and there's about 50 of us there. 294 00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:29,334 She couldn't finish. She was like, "Oh my God, oh my God." [laughing] 295 00:19:30,752 --> 00:19:33,714 She asked if she could help. I was like, "Really?" 296 00:19:34,965 --> 00:19:37,634 She goes, "Yeah." Sleeves up, I gave her apron, 297 00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:40,220 and she washed, like, five kilos basmati rice. 298 00:19:40,304 --> 00:19:43,056 Uh, okay. Mmm. 299 00:19:45,601 --> 00:19:47,561 [Meghan] Over the course of eight or nine months, 300 00:19:47,644 --> 00:19:51,190 I just kept going back and visiting them, and I loved these women so much. 301 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:57,905 When I watched these women laughing together and grieving together, 302 00:19:57,988 --> 00:20:00,616 I said, "Why can't you do this every day of the week?" 303 00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,701 They said, "Well, we don't have the funds for it." 304 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,787 I just looked around, I said, "We should make a cookbook." 305 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:08,707 [applause] 306 00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:11,752 [Meghan] Thank you for coming for the launch of Together, 307 00:20:11,835 --> 00:20:15,964 to celebrate this and the women of the Hubb Community Kitchen. 308 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:21,136 Actually, the first speech I made as a member of the royal family 309 00:20:22,012 --> 00:20:23,931 was launching this cookbook. 310 00:20:24,014 --> 00:20:27,726 Working on this project for the past nine months has been 311 00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:29,895 a tremendous labor of love. 312 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,606 [Meghan] We did it on the grounds of Kensington Palace. 313 00:20:32,689 --> 00:20:34,608 And did your mom make these, um… 314 00:20:34,691 --> 00:20:39,655 [Meghan] I feel so proud to live in a city that can have so much diversity. 315 00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:42,449 It's 12 countries represented in this one group of women. 316 00:20:42,532 --> 00:20:44,993 It's pretty outstanding. Thank you. 317 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:47,955 [audience applause] 318 00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:49,748 [Natalie] Sales, we're doing brilliantly. 319 00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:52,125 We've knocked JK Rowling off the top spot, 320 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:54,294 and the book's not even out yet. 321 00:20:55,295 --> 00:20:57,589 [Meghan] It just… Just kept growing. 322 00:20:57,673 --> 00:20:59,633 [indistinct conversation] 323 00:20:59,716 --> 00:21:01,510 On behalf of all the ladies, thank you. 324 00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:03,136 [woman] Thank you! 325 00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:05,597 [reporter] If you needed an image of how the Duchess of Sussex 326 00:21:05,681 --> 00:21:08,475 is changing the way the royal family is perceived, 327 00:21:08,558 --> 00:21:10,269 this one would probably do it. 328 00:21:10,352 --> 00:21:12,437 [woman] Thank you! Thank you! 329 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:16,149 [Afua] She talked about wanting to bring new life to the monarchy, 330 00:21:16,233 --> 00:21:21,280 and more honesty and humanity to those spaces. What's not to like? 331 00:21:21,863 --> 00:21:22,823 [woman] Oi, royalty. 332 00:21:22,906 --> 00:21:23,782 [man] There they are. 333 00:21:23,865 --> 00:21:27,452 Prince Harry and Meghan on the first day of their Australian tour. 334 00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:30,872 [crowd cheering] 335 00:21:34,668 --> 00:21:39,047 They seem to speak so effortlessly for a different generation. 336 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:41,717 [crowd cheering] 337 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,636 [female presenter] She and Harry are the superstars of the British family. 338 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,971 Yeah, I shook her hand too. 339 00:21:46,054 --> 00:21:47,431 [women squeal] 340 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,977 [Harry] Looking back on it now, 341 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,604 amazed we managed to do what we did. 342 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:57,024 Well, also even harder when I was pregnant. 343 00:22:01,695 --> 00:22:04,114 [Meghan] One of the things that we connected on really early 344 00:22:04,197 --> 00:22:06,450 is you always had wanted to be a dad. 345 00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,910 -[Harry] Mm. -And I'd always wanted to be a mom. 346 00:22:09,745 --> 00:22:12,664 We started journaling right when we found out we were pregnant. 347 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:16,126 It was just, "Dear baby, we're so excited to meet you one day." 348 00:22:16,918 --> 00:22:20,005 And take little snapshots and stick them in the journal. 349 00:22:20,088 --> 00:22:22,174 "Here's an announcement that went out about you today." 350 00:22:22,758 --> 00:22:24,259 [female presenter] Breaking baby news. 351 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:28,430 The Duchess of Sussex is pregnant and we now know officially. 352 00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:30,057 [keyboard clicking] 353 00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:33,310 [Meghan] We announced we were pregnant in Australia. 354 00:22:33,393 --> 00:22:34,269 Because we had to. 355 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,229 -You were starting to show. -[Meghan] Yeah. 356 00:22:36,313 --> 00:22:39,441 And then New Zealand started referring to it as the bump. 357 00:22:39,524 --> 00:22:41,526 -As the bump. Le bump. Yeah. -Le bump, yeah. 358 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:45,155 [female presenter] They'll be busy, which is not easy early in a pregnancy. 359 00:22:45,238 --> 00:22:47,199 They have 76 engagements scheduled. 360 00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:50,535 That was a really rigorous tour to do, pregnant. 361 00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:53,288 [female presenter] A 16-day trip. Australia and New Zealand and Fiji. 362 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,374 Let's hope she hasn't got bad morning sickness. 363 00:22:56,583 --> 00:22:58,752 She's so lovely and just so engaged. 364 00:22:58,835 --> 00:23:00,962 Really all about women's empowerment. 365 00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:02,714 [poignant music playing] 366 00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:05,634 [Harry] Giving 100%, every single person that you meet-- 367 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:06,885 That's their moment. 368 00:23:07,469 --> 00:23:11,306 [male presenter] The Duchess of Sussex arrived hand-in-hand with her husband. 369 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:12,724 It went so well. 370 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:15,894 Because when girls are given the right tools to succeed, 371 00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:18,146 they can create incredible futures. 372 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,065 [woman] The work they were doing, the speeches, 373 00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:22,734 the people they were meeting, it seemed to be amazing. 374 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:28,365 And then I don't understand what happened after that. 375 00:23:30,992 --> 00:23:35,330 I think Australia was a real turning point because they were so popular. 376 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:39,042 So popular with the public. 377 00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,669 [crowd chanting] Meghan! 378 00:23:40,752 --> 00:23:45,215 [woman] The internals at the palace were incredibly threatened by that. 379 00:23:45,841 --> 00:23:47,801 [women squeal in crowd] 380 00:23:47,884 --> 00:23:49,678 [male presenter] Putting aside what I think, 381 00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:52,431 she's becoming a royal rock star. 382 00:23:52,514 --> 00:23:55,392 Bigger, I would argue, as a couple, than William and Kate. 383 00:23:55,475 --> 00:23:57,936 That's probably not a good thing in the long term. 384 00:23:58,019 --> 00:24:00,897 [soft music playing] 385 00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:04,943 The issue is when someone who's marrying in, who should be a supporting, 386 00:24:05,026 --> 00:24:05,861 a supporting act, 387 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:09,364 is then stealing the limelight, or is doing the job better 388 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,575 than the person who is born to do this. 389 00:24:12,367 --> 00:24:14,786 That upsets people. It shifts the balance. 390 00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:18,206 Because you've been led to believe 391 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,376 that the only way that your charities can succeed 392 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:25,672 and the only way that your reputation can be grown or improved 393 00:24:25,755 --> 00:24:28,133 is if you're on the front page of those newspapers. 394 00:24:30,093 --> 00:24:33,555 But the media are the ones who choose who to put on the front page. 395 00:24:38,393 --> 00:24:41,146 First time that the penny dropped for her, 396 00:24:41,771 --> 00:24:46,651 M and I spent the night in a room in Buckingham Palace after an event where 397 00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:49,905 every single member of the family had been, including the queen. 398 00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:59,623 [Meghan] The next morning, they'd set up breakfast for Harry and I. 399 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:03,168 And on the front page of The Telegraph, Meghan. 400 00:25:08,131 --> 00:25:09,758 I went, "Oh my God." 401 00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:11,843 [melancholic music playing] 402 00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:17,807 [Harry] She was like, "But it's not my fault." 403 00:25:17,891 --> 00:25:20,227 And I said, "I know. And my mum felt the same way." 404 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:23,146 We'd be going round Australia for instance 405 00:25:24,439 --> 00:25:29,319 and you… All you could hear was, "Oh, she's on the other side." 406 00:25:29,402 --> 00:25:31,321 [male interviewer] What do you mean? 407 00:25:31,404 --> 00:25:34,324 Well, they weren't on the right side to wave at me or to touch me. 408 00:25:35,408 --> 00:25:38,328 [male interviewer] They were expressing a preference, even then, for you. 409 00:25:38,411 --> 00:25:39,371 [Princess Diana] Yes. 410 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,250 Now if you're a man, or my husband, a proud man, 411 00:25:43,333 --> 00:25:45,961 you mind about that if you hear it every day for four weeks. 412 00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:48,630 And you feel low about it. 413 00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:53,301 [male interviewer] But were you flattered by the media attention? 414 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:54,678 [Diana] No, not particularly. 415 00:25:54,761 --> 00:25:57,556 Because with the media attention came a lot of jealousy. 416 00:25:57,639 --> 00:26:02,894 A great deal of… complicated situations arose because of that. 417 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:09,109 [tense music playing] 418 00:26:09,192 --> 00:26:14,281 [James] When some people in the institution around the family 419 00:26:14,364 --> 00:26:18,827 started to see that this new couple 420 00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:24,332 could destabilize the power dynamics, 421 00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,668 whether actively talked about or not, 422 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:33,300 the aim was to put them in a box or make them irrelevant. 423 00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:38,305 [Abigail] It was almost like, from the wedding and everything, 424 00:26:38,388 --> 00:26:40,098 I saw that they were building her up 425 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,727 and then there was a shift and they started to tear her down. 426 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:48,356 [male presenter] The Duchess of Sussex is at war with her sister-in-law. 427 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,318 All of a sudden, these tabloid stories 428 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:53,111 started to appear, 429 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:56,448 criticizing Meghan for every little thing. 430 00:26:57,490 --> 00:27:00,660 What's interesting is that you could see side by side, two articles. 431 00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:04,748 One in which Kate was praised, and Meghan was condemned. 432 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:09,711 -[Harry] You had the bump. -[Meghan] The bump. 433 00:27:11,087 --> 00:27:12,422 [Harry] The avocados. 434 00:27:16,092 --> 00:27:20,555 It's bizarre. And there were maybe like 25 examples. 435 00:27:21,431 --> 00:27:23,224 It's literally the same thing. 436 00:27:26,102 --> 00:27:28,355 It's the off-the-shoulder dress. 437 00:27:32,192 --> 00:27:33,943 It's the same fruit. 438 00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:35,987 -If avocado is a fruit? -Mm-hmm, it is, yeah. 439 00:27:36,071 --> 00:27:38,615 This is how it's covered for her. This is how it's covered for her. 440 00:27:38,698 --> 00:27:40,575 If you don't see the difference and understand 441 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:43,244 why it's being reported that way, why… 442 00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:45,497 then, I can't help you. 443 00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:47,123 -[Meghan chuckles] -[Harry laughs] 444 00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:49,334 I can't. I'm sorry. I just can't. 445 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:53,838 At the time, I mean we laughed about it because it's so ridiculous. 446 00:27:53,922 --> 00:27:57,008 But an attack can be preposterous but it's still an attack 447 00:27:57,092 --> 00:28:01,054 and that drip feed of constant attack on someone who is an individual, 448 00:28:01,137 --> 00:28:03,848 a real person, has an impact. 449 00:28:05,308 --> 00:28:09,854 [man] The fairy tale has fractured and one person is copping all the blame. 450 00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:12,399 [male presenter] Meghan seems to be a version of the Antichrist. 451 00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:14,734 [female presenter 1] Is Meghan Markle "Duchess Difficult"? 452 00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:17,070 [female presenter 2] "Duchess Difficult." "Monster Markle." 453 00:28:17,153 --> 00:28:21,366 [James] A lot of the stories had a connotation and a tone 454 00:28:21,449 --> 00:28:23,243 that were incredibly demeaning. 455 00:28:23,326 --> 00:28:25,161 [tense music playing] 456 00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:28,957 So many people expect racism really just to be the N-word. 457 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,626 "None of that's racist." It's like, "You don't understand." 458 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,920 [male presenter] Where is that racism? I haven't seen it. 459 00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:39,050 So the UK's perfect at doing this, right? Nobody wants to be openly racist. 460 00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:41,136 That wouldn't be civilized. That wouldn't be British. 461 00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:44,264 Uh, but it's perfectly fine to kind of dog whistle. Give a nod to it. 462 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:47,934 She's a diva. She's making people cry. 463 00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:49,728 This kind of angry black woman trope. 464 00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:53,022 It just really came to the fore, uh, really quite suddenly. 465 00:28:53,732 --> 00:29:00,113 Like even the stereotyping and the association to drugs or terrorism… 466 00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:04,492 [Munira] There's a time they put my picture and Meghan's picture, 467 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:08,788 saying that the mosque is related to ISIS. 468 00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:11,207 Why? 469 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:14,878 [David] Anger sells. 470 00:29:14,961 --> 00:29:17,172 That hysteria elicits clicks, 471 00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:19,674 which elicits an engagement, which elicits money. 472 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,260 I call it the outrage industrial complex. 473 00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:27,974 And racialized anger is just another step down the same pathway. 474 00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:36,357 [Meghan] I had still been under the delusion 475 00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,568 that if it was in a tabloid, no one believed it. 476 00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:41,154 Like, it's a tabloid. 477 00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:45,074 And then we had a walkabout in Liverpool 478 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:49,454 and there was a group of women, and one of them said to me, 479 00:29:49,537 --> 00:29:51,498 "What you're doing to your father's not right." 480 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:55,668 It was the first time that I went, 481 00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:59,130 "Oh my God. People actually believe this stuff." 482 00:30:00,423 --> 00:30:03,510 And then my entire center was rocked to its core. 483 00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:08,056 -[melancholic music playing] -[indistinct conversation] 484 00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:10,809 [camera shutters clicking] 485 00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:12,936 [Harry] The lies, that's one thing. 486 00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:15,647 You kind of get used to that when you live within this family. 487 00:30:15,730 --> 00:30:20,652 But what they were doing to her and the effect that it was having on her… 488 00:30:21,402 --> 00:30:24,864 Like, enough. Enough of the pain, enough of the… 489 00:30:26,574 --> 00:30:27,617 The suffering. 490 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:29,702 [melancholic music continues] 491 00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:33,790 [Harry] No one sees what's happening behind closed doors. 492 00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:38,044 Back in the day, my mum was in the back of the car, 493 00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:40,421 going to engagements in floods of tears. 494 00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,215 And then my dad's saying, "Almost there." 495 00:30:42,298 --> 00:30:46,135 And 30 seconds to wipe the tears away, slap on some makeup, 496 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:50,139 and then the door opens and smile, everything's fine. 497 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:53,268 And flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash. 498 00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:57,063 [melancholic music resumes] 499 00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:09,284 It was just gloomy. Like she was just kind of disappearing inside herself. 500 00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:15,957 I'd never seen her like that. It was hard. It's very hard to talk about. [chuckles] 501 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:18,001 Um, I was really scared. 502 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,421 It was like, all of this will stop if I'm not here. 503 00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:28,845 And that was the scariest thing about it. It was such clear thinking. 504 00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:32,849 I remember her telling me that… 505 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,644 That she had wanted to take her own life. 506 00:31:37,687 --> 00:31:39,022 And, um… 507 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,191 And that really broke my heart. 508 00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:43,526 Because I knew… 509 00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:47,697 Well, I knew that it was bad. 510 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:53,953 But to just constantly be, um, 511 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:57,123 picked at by these vultures… 512 00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:00,376 Uh, just picking away at her spirit. 513 00:32:01,085 --> 00:32:04,297 That she would actually think of not wanting to be here. 514 00:32:05,548 --> 00:32:06,591 That, uh… 515 00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,603 It's… That's not an easy one for a mom to hear. 516 00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:21,064 You know, uh… 517 00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:26,152 And, uh… 518 00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:28,446 [sniffling] 519 00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,034 And I can't protect her. 520 00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:36,579 H can't protect her. 521 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:41,000 She's… 522 00:32:41,668 --> 00:32:42,585 [sniffling] 523 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:48,925 [melancholic music resumes] 524 00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:50,259 [Harry] I was devastated. 525 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:53,638 I knew that she was struggling. We were both struggling. 526 00:32:55,014 --> 00:32:57,225 But I never thought that it would get to that stage. 527 00:32:57,308 --> 00:32:59,936 And the fact that it got to that stage, I felt… 528 00:33:01,896 --> 00:33:03,898 angry and ashamed. 529 00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:07,443 I didn't deal with it particularly well. 530 00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:13,074 I dealt with it as institutional Harry, as opposed to husband Harry. 531 00:33:15,118 --> 00:33:17,537 And what took over my feelings 532 00:33:18,746 --> 00:33:19,998 was my royal role. 533 00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:23,042 I had been trained 534 00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:25,545 to worry more about, 535 00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:29,340 what are people gonna think if we don't go to this event? 536 00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:30,425 We're gonna be late. 537 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,761 And looking back on it now, I… 538 00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,723 I hate myself for it. [scoffs] 539 00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:44,230 What she needed from me was so much more than I was able to give. 540 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,654 I wanted to go somewhere to get help, but I wasn't allowed to. 541 00:33:52,655 --> 00:33:55,241 They were concerned about how that would look for the institution. 542 00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:00,413 They knew how bad it was. 543 00:34:00,496 --> 00:34:01,581 [camera shutters clicking] 544 00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,250 [Harry] They thought, "Why couldn't she deal with it?" 545 00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:07,003 As if to say, "Well, you know, everybody else has dealt with it, 546 00:34:07,086 --> 00:34:08,504 why can't she deal with it?" 547 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,758 But this was different. It was really different. 548 00:34:12,633 --> 00:34:14,761 But actually, if you strip all that away 549 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:17,972 and say, "Okay fine, it was exactly the same," 550 00:34:18,848 --> 00:34:21,225 so do we still believe that she should have just sucked it up 551 00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:22,977 like other members of the family? 552 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:27,398 Or does one think that maybe it's about time that we stopped? 553 00:34:30,276 --> 00:34:33,654 No one would have private conversations with the editors saying, "Enough." 554 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:39,243 My dad said to me, "Darling boy, you can't take on the media." 555 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,205 "The media will always be the media." I said, "I disagree." 556 00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:50,838 I have 30 years' experience of looking behind the curtain 557 00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:53,466 and seeing how this system works and how it runs. 558 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:59,055 I mean, just constant briefings about other members of the family, 559 00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:01,474 about favors, inviting the press in. 560 00:35:02,141 --> 00:35:03,059 It's a dirty game. 561 00:35:04,977 --> 00:35:07,688 You know, there's leaking, but there's also planting of stories. 562 00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,692 So if the comms team want to be able to remove 563 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:14,195 a negative story about their principle, 564 00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:17,406 they will trade and give you something about someone else's principle. 565 00:35:18,491 --> 00:35:20,868 So the offices end up working against each other. 566 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:25,665 It's a kind of a, this weird understanding or acceptance that happens. 567 00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:28,918 And you can always say, "I didn't know about this," 568 00:35:29,001 --> 00:35:32,213 or, "This would never happen. Are you suggesting that I condone this?" 569 00:35:32,296 --> 00:35:37,718 It's like, "No. But what I am asking is have you done anything to stop it?" 570 00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:40,096 And the answer is no. 571 00:35:41,013 --> 00:35:43,015 [man] Pretend like you know each other, come on. 572 00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:44,809 [all laughing] 573 00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:49,605 [Harry] William and I both saw what happened in our dad's office… 574 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:54,527 and we made an agreement that we would never let that happen to our office. 575 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:01,450 [James] Every year, Kensington Palace hosts a Christmas party 576 00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:03,077 for the principles and the staff. 577 00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:06,622 And so we were gearing up for one big party. 578 00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:07,874 and very shortly… 579 00:36:08,583 --> 00:36:11,878 Very shortly before the party, 580 00:36:11,961 --> 00:36:13,796 it became two parties. 581 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,716 [poignant music playing] 582 00:36:16,799 --> 00:36:22,638 That was the point that you realized that these offices are separating. 583 00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:27,602 [female presenter 1] It could be the end of an era for the "Royal Fab Four." 584 00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:29,562 [female presenter 2] The "Fabulous Four" no more? 585 00:36:29,645 --> 00:36:33,191 Meghan and Harry officially cutting ties with William and Kate. 586 00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:36,611 [female presenter 3] The split fueling speculation of further strains 587 00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,822 in the once-close relationship between Harry and William, 588 00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:42,241 and growing tensions between their wives. 589 00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:49,916 [wistful music playing] 590 00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:54,212 [Harry] I would far rather get destroyed in the Press 591 00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:59,050 than play along with this game or this business of trading. 592 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,051 [camera shutters click] 593 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,846 [Harry] And to see my brother's office copy the very same thing 594 00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:07,016 that we promised the two of us would never ever do, 595 00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:09,101 that was heartbreaking. 596 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,355 [Meghan] Ready. 597 00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:17,902 -[Harry] Yay! -[Meghan] Yay! Merry Christmas! 598 00:37:17,985 --> 00:37:20,988 [Meghan] We were in this bubble where everything is controlled by them. 599 00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:24,450 I couldn't even text my friends a photo. 600 00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:26,118 "You can't do this, you can't…" 601 00:37:26,702 --> 00:37:29,247 Okay. And you do as you're told, 602 00:37:29,330 --> 00:37:32,250 but your world just becomes more and more like this. 603 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,547 [Abigail] That was a really dark… That was really a dark time. 604 00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:40,633 And I didn't know what to do. 605 00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:44,512 Like, that's the thing is, like, they are in this complex organism 606 00:37:44,595 --> 00:37:48,182 that I don't know anything about, or how to help, 607 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,685 or what to do, and I'm not allowed to say anything. 608 00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:54,146 Like, I was not allowed to say anything. 609 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:55,189 [sniffling] 610 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:03,614 Anything that anybody was printing wasn't coming from anybody that knew her. 611 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:05,700 There's all this untruth. 612 00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:10,496 There's all these lies, and it just seemed to be getting worse. 613 00:38:12,415 --> 00:38:14,917 Abby came to me and said we should do something. 614 00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:17,420 I called one of my closest friends, 615 00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:20,172 who just so happened at the time to be the editor of People magazine. 616 00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:23,509 [wistful music playing] 617 00:38:23,592 --> 00:38:26,220 I said, "We have to turn this narrative around." 618 00:38:27,471 --> 00:38:29,307 You know, it will just be her closest friends 619 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:30,975 coming together to talk about the person, 620 00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:33,728 who she really is, in the middle of this shit storm. 621 00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:42,903 [Silver] It was born out of just wanting to remind the world 622 00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,323 that she's a person and not a headline and… 623 00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:50,077 That she is loved and, and stick up for her. 624 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:56,959 [Abigail] The story comes out. 625 00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,671 Like, "Okay." Like, there was a little bit of an exhale. 626 00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:07,970 [poignant music playing] 627 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,018 [Meghan] My girlfriends surprised me 628 00:39:14,101 --> 00:39:18,147 with a really beautiful baby shower in New York. 629 00:39:23,277 --> 00:39:25,237 They're like, "We're gonna shower her with love, 630 00:39:25,321 --> 00:39:27,365 and shower her baby, and she's gonna survive this." 631 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:28,991 "We're gonna get through it with her." 632 00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:34,789 This like, really magical time of just, like, us just celebrating her. 633 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,505 It was just so cool and so fun to just, like, try to have an intimate moment. 634 00:39:42,588 --> 00:39:47,593 I don't think I understood that there was no intimate moment that one could have. 635 00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:50,137 [woman in crowd] Jessica! 636 00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:52,765 [indistinct shouting] 637 00:39:52,848 --> 00:39:54,558 [man] Ladies, ladies, come on! 638 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:59,397 -[woman 1] That turned into a thing… -[woman 2] Criticized the extravagance. 639 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,941 -[woman 3] Ostentatious. -[woman 4] The world's biggest stars. 640 00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:04,819 -[woman 5] A show-off moment. -[woman 6] Traveling home in style. 641 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,196 [woman 6] Clooney's private jet. Not too shabby. 642 00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:08,614 [Meghan] It was so wrong. 643 00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:13,035 These independent, strong, successful women 644 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,037 choose to use their own money, 645 00:40:15,621 --> 00:40:17,206 and it's not taxpayer money, 646 00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:21,669 to throw a party for their friend from a place of love. 647 00:40:23,003 --> 00:40:26,298 Why are you taking such a beautiful moment and trying to ruin it? 648 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:35,224 [Lucy] They knew that they didn't want to bring Archie up 649 00:40:35,307 --> 00:40:38,310 in this frenzy that they lived in. 650 00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:41,397 So then to suddenly have my grandmother go, "There's a house." 651 00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:46,485 "Frogmore Cottage. It's available. Are you interested?"" 652 00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:48,696 -"Yes, please." -[Meghan] Yes. 653 00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:51,490 -[wistful music playing] -[dog barking] 654 00:40:51,574 --> 00:40:54,285 It was a place where we had so many memories. 655 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:59,540 From our courtship, our engagement, our wedding, our walks. 656 00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:03,919 And then where we ended up, you know, having our baby. 657 00:41:05,546 --> 00:41:07,965 -[triumphant music playing] -[woman squeals] 658 00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:10,301 Oyez, oyez. 659 00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:15,556 Buckingham Palace proudly announces the birth of a royal baby boy. 660 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,892 [Whoopi Goldberg] We wanna start off by congratulating 661 00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:20,186 Duchess Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. 662 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,313 [female presenter 1] Very happy news. It is a boy! 663 00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:23,981 [Whoopi Goldberg] Just a few hours ago… 664 00:41:25,941 --> 00:41:29,987 Meghan and myself had a baby boy, um, early this morning. 665 00:41:30,070 --> 00:41:35,451 It's been the most amazing experience I could ever have, um, possibly imagined. 666 00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:39,163 One of those babies is gonna pop out looking like me. 667 00:41:39,246 --> 00:41:40,498 [audience laughing] 668 00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:43,834 As a Black man who's just been born to royalty, the Black prince, 669 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:47,838 Archie has changed the game! 670 00:41:56,597 --> 00:41:58,390 [cannons fire] 671 00:41:58,474 --> 00:42:01,769 [male presenter] Her Royal Highness is the proud and happy mother of a prince. 672 00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:04,230 The whole country knew that the baby would soon be born. 673 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:07,775 All day on Sunday, people waited outside the palace… 674 00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:10,819 Things have been done in a certain type of way for many years. 675 00:42:10,903 --> 00:42:12,488 [crowd cheering] 676 00:42:15,658 --> 00:42:18,118 [crowd cheering] 677 00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:23,123 [James] The big photo call on the steps as soon as you've given birth. 678 00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:28,504 [crowd cheering] 679 00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,923 That's the way that it was expected to go. 680 00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:40,891 And so, in the run-up to Archie's birth, 681 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,352 reporters were constantly phoning like, 682 00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,187 "What are the plans? We know that it's close." 683 00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:52,152 [Meghan] There was already, like, the pressure of, like, the picture 684 00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:53,696 with Archie on the steps, 685 00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,489 and "are they gonna do that, are they not?" 686 00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,534 We are very familiar with this brown door. 687 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:03,289 [Meghan] But I had been really worried going into that labor 688 00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:06,584 because I'm older and I didn't know if I'd have to have a C-section. 689 00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:09,878 And I had a very long-standing relationship with my doctor. 690 00:43:10,379 --> 00:43:13,299 And that's who I trusted with my pregnancy. 691 00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:16,260 And they said, "Right. But she's at Portland Hospital." 692 00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:18,929 "And the steps are at this hospital." 693 00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:19,972 [poignant music plays] 694 00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:23,350 I said, "Okay, we could do a photo call in front of Portland Hospital." 695 00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:24,643 And they said it's impossible. 696 00:43:24,727 --> 00:43:26,770 "We couldn't barricade these streets off, 697 00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,690 and it would create a threat for the emergency room entrance, 698 00:43:29,773 --> 00:43:31,900 because that's where you would have to do this picture." 699 00:43:32,985 --> 00:43:36,614 We said, "Okay, what's the hybrid? Can we give them more time at the castle?" 700 00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:39,575 And everything in turn was like, "Yes. Yes, great. Oh, yes." 701 00:43:39,658 --> 00:43:42,202 At no point did someone go, "Absolutely not." 702 00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:46,624 [camera shutters clicking] 703 00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:53,172 [man] Meghan, tell us what it's like becoming a new mum? 704 00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:56,091 And tell us a little about "Baby Sussex", as we're calling him. 705 00:43:56,175 --> 00:44:00,596 [laughing] Um, it's magic. It's pretty amazing and… 706 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:05,517 I mean, I have the two best guys in the world, so I'm really happy. 707 00:44:06,393 --> 00:44:08,395 [man] And how are you finding parenting, generally? 708 00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:10,481 [Harry] Yeah, it's great. Parenting is amazing. 709 00:44:10,564 --> 00:44:13,609 It's only been, what, two and a half days, three days. 710 00:44:13,692 --> 00:44:14,777 [Meghan] Yep. 711 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:19,907 But we're just… We're just so thrilled to have our own little bundle of joy. 712 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:23,827 He's already got a little bit of facial hair as well. Wonderful. 713 00:44:24,578 --> 00:44:26,163 -Guys, thank you. -Thank you all so much. 714 00:44:26,246 --> 00:44:27,998 -[man] Thanks for your time. -Thank you. 715 00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:30,793 And thank you, everybody, for all the well wishes and the kindness. 716 00:44:30,876 --> 00:44:32,920 It's really… It just means so much. 717 00:44:33,879 --> 00:44:35,756 -Thank you. -Thanks. Bye. 718 00:44:37,257 --> 00:44:40,636 [wistful music playing] 719 00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:47,476 [James] Now, I think, if you ask most average members of society, 720 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,270 they would say, "We would love to be able to see him." 721 00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:53,691 "Take all the time you need. We'll see him when you're ready." 722 00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:59,488 But even though it was just two days after Archie was born, 723 00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:05,160 it turned into a narrative of Harry and Meghan being selfish. 724 00:45:06,161 --> 00:45:08,831 [female presenter 1] A sharp departure from Charles and Diana, 725 00:45:08,914 --> 00:45:10,332 and William and Kate, 726 00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:11,959 all more public with their kids. 727 00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:15,504 [female presenter 2] There has been some controversy, 728 00:45:15,587 --> 00:45:17,423 some comment in the newspapers saying, 729 00:45:17,506 --> 00:45:20,259 "Look, we fund them. We wish to see the baby." 730 00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:24,722 The amount of abuse that we got, especially you, but both of us, 731 00:45:24,805 --> 00:45:29,059 for not wanting to serve our child up on a silver platter, was incredible. 732 00:45:29,143 --> 00:45:32,688 [female presenter] This is an unprecedented slap in the face. 733 00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:42,573 If anyone needed evidence as to why Meghan and Harry 734 00:45:42,656 --> 00:45:47,077 felt it necessary to protect their newborn baby from the media glare, 735 00:45:47,661 --> 00:45:50,330 they couldn't have asked for 736 00:45:52,207 --> 00:45:53,667 a better case to be made 737 00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:57,838 than the way in which the narrative played out after the birth. 738 00:45:58,422 --> 00:45:59,798 Archie's just been born. 739 00:45:59,882 --> 00:46:02,926 Media, social media starts to take on a life of its own. 740 00:46:03,010 --> 00:46:08,223 Someone in the media posting a photograph of a couple with 741 00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:09,975 a chimp. 742 00:46:10,517 --> 00:46:13,187 And at the top it said, "Royal baby leaves hospital." 743 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:14,438 [tense music playing] 744 00:46:14,521 --> 00:46:16,815 So that was one of the first things that I saw. 745 00:46:19,568 --> 00:46:24,364 It was a metaphor for the way this family were being treated. 746 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:26,700 That their dignity 747 00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:30,829 and their right to be treated equally 748 00:46:31,997 --> 00:46:35,292 and have their humanity respected and acknowledged 749 00:46:35,375 --> 00:46:40,672 was secondary to a white, patriarchal media establishment. 750 00:46:44,718 --> 00:46:47,596 [female interviewer] Were you aware of the pressure on them 751 00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,265 to go pose for the media at that time? 752 00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:54,895 Mm-hmm. I was with her. I mean, I was there. I'd been there a month. Yeah. 753 00:46:55,979 --> 00:46:57,564 Yeah. And that, um… 754 00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:58,816 Well they had already, 755 00:46:59,399 --> 00:47:03,695 you know, just stripped both of them of any kind of privacy. 756 00:47:04,696 --> 00:47:08,617 It was almost like it's not your child, it's the institution's child. 757 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,577 She's saying, "No, this is my baby." 758 00:47:11,453 --> 00:47:14,206 [wistful music playing] 759 00:47:14,289 --> 00:47:17,251 [Doria] I was there when she brought him home from the hospital. 760 00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:21,255 Little tiny little thing. Mm-hmm. 761 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,592 I'd never been a grandmother… I mean… You know, I'm new to being a grandma. 762 00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:29,930 My mom stayed with us for a month solid. 763 00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:33,350 And it was great to have her there. 764 00:47:35,477 --> 00:47:39,106 But then after that, we didn't have someone to help us with Archie. 765 00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:45,487 [Lorren] I had this phone call and they were like, 766 00:47:45,571 --> 00:47:48,365 "Prince Harry and Meghan would like to see you 767 00:47:48,448 --> 00:47:50,701 and speak to you about looking after Archie." 768 00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:53,328 I was like, "Hang on a minute, I need to sit down." 769 00:47:55,205 --> 00:47:58,917 I remember just driving so far. I think I did get a ticket. Actually, yes, I did. 770 00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:03,797 [Meghan laughing] 771 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,633 [Lorren] When I arrived at Frogmore Cottage, 772 00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:10,345 I see this guy, he's tall, he's ginger, 773 00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:12,264 and he's walking barefoot. 774 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:16,560 And I have gone and bought a new pair of shoes in Clarks. 775 00:48:21,064 --> 00:48:23,609 And suddenly, whatever I thought or felt, 776 00:48:23,692 --> 00:48:28,822 the formality just sort of slid and I felt so at ease. 777 00:48:31,783 --> 00:48:33,535 They were really hands-on parents. 778 00:48:33,619 --> 00:48:36,747 In the morning when he woke up, first thing, mum and dad would come in. 779 00:48:37,247 --> 00:48:39,499 They would be with their baby. She would feed him. 780 00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:44,171 And then after that, I'll take over and normally we'd go for a morning walk. 781 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,094 And she said, "Is it okay if I, like, tie him on my back with a mud cloth 782 00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:54,598 like we do in Zimbabwe?" Yes! Let's do that! 783 00:48:55,223 --> 00:48:59,186 Archie's legs like this. Hugging Lorren like this, fast asleep. 784 00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:00,562 -It's true. -It was brilliant. 785 00:49:03,774 --> 00:49:06,485 She just took care of, not just Archie, but she took care of us. 786 00:49:06,568 --> 00:49:07,819 She definitely took care of me. 787 00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:15,118 Early into the job, we have to prepare for a tour. 788 00:49:15,202 --> 00:49:17,454 I'm like, "What do I pack for a small prince?" 789 00:49:18,038 --> 00:49:20,415 [woman over PA] Please place items in the locker carefully… 790 00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:22,876 [Harry] It's always been a bit of a royal thing 791 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,379 to go on a tour with your child. 792 00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:27,547 The South Africa tour, 793 00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:30,384 Archie being four months old, off we went and we took him with us. 794 00:49:30,467 --> 00:49:35,263 And it was the first time that we traveled as a family for official work. 795 00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:36,765 It was a real strange experience. 796 00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:43,021 [traditional music playing] 797 00:49:43,105 --> 00:49:45,899 [female reporter] Far from traditional start to their royal tour. 798 00:49:45,983 --> 00:49:51,279 Arriving in the Nyanga township known as the murder capital of South Africa. 799 00:49:51,363 --> 00:49:53,115 [male reporter] Symbolic place for the world's 800 00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:56,827 most talked-about mixed-race couple to make their entrance. 801 00:49:57,411 --> 00:50:02,416 -[traditional music playing] -[dancers chant] 802 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:07,713 You have to see the royal family as diplomats representing the UK. 803 00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:12,592 And so there was, um, great nervousness 804 00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:16,930 about how far Meghan could go 805 00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:20,434 in doing or saying anything that wouldn't cause… 806 00:50:20,517 --> 00:50:22,561 Hello. 807 00:50:22,644 --> 00:50:26,356 …national geopolitical rows between the two countries. 808 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,358 [Meghan] Maya Angelou once said, 809 00:50:28,942 --> 00:50:31,737 "Each time a woman stands up for herself, 810 00:50:32,571 --> 00:50:36,658 without knowing it, possibly without claiming it, 811 00:50:36,742 --> 00:50:39,286 she stands up for all women." 812 00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:41,913 [crowd cheering] 813 00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:46,168 While I'm here, with my husband, as a member of the royal family, 814 00:50:46,752 --> 00:50:50,505 I want you to know that, for me, I am here with you as a mother, 815 00:50:51,089 --> 00:50:56,928 as a wife, as a woman, as a woman of color, and as your sister. 816 00:50:57,429 --> 00:51:01,558 [crowd cheering] 817 00:51:01,641 --> 00:51:05,103 [traditional music playing] 818 00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:09,483 [Meghan] Just from a cultural standpoint, 819 00:51:09,566 --> 00:51:12,819 you do feel connected, you feel welcome, you feel a part of. 820 00:51:12,903 --> 00:51:16,073 And as an African American, that is our lineage. 821 00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:18,283 [presenter 1] Baby Archie all smiles 822 00:51:18,366 --> 00:51:21,411 in his first official appearance on a royal tour. 823 00:51:21,495 --> 00:51:22,829 [presenter 2] Of course, everyone 824 00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:26,083 was looking forward to meeting Archie Mountbatten Windsor. 825 00:51:26,166 --> 00:51:28,502 [lively music playing] 826 00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:35,092 [James] And there were just some perfectly wonderful light moments 827 00:51:35,175 --> 00:51:39,638 that, um, she was just such an enthusiastic new mum. 828 00:51:39,721 --> 00:51:42,057 [woman] It must be exciting to be a mom. 829 00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:43,600 [Meghan] Oh, it's the best. 830 00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:48,021 But it was also the first time that I… I really got to see, 831 00:51:48,855 --> 00:51:50,690 uh, how low she'd got. 832 00:51:51,316 --> 00:51:54,694 [wistful music playing] 833 00:51:57,989 --> 00:52:00,659 [Lorren] It was a lot of pressure on everybody 834 00:52:00,742 --> 00:52:04,621 because the tour was full-on and you're thinking, "Oh my God, 835 00:52:04,704 --> 00:52:08,333 how are you managing this? And yet you can still put a smile on your face." 836 00:52:08,416 --> 00:52:09,584 Because she did have a smile. 837 00:52:09,668 --> 00:52:11,378 -[Meghan] Hi. -[man] Hello. 838 00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,421 -How are you? You okay? -I'm good. 839 00:52:13,505 --> 00:52:14,464 -Yes. -Okay. 840 00:52:14,548 --> 00:52:16,967 [Meghan] Tom, the journalist, who was on that trip with us-- 841 00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:18,468 [Harry] Yes, the Africa documentary. 842 00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:23,223 [Meghan] This was a royal documentary that the palace was green-lighting. 843 00:52:23,306 --> 00:52:25,851 I guess I just assumed this was just gonna be a… 844 00:52:26,476 --> 00:52:29,729 Like a glossy version of a happy tour. 845 00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:32,524 [Tom] This has been quite a journey, really, one way and another. 846 00:52:32,607 --> 00:52:35,694 Perhaps you could just give us an idea of what the last year's been like. 847 00:52:36,695 --> 00:52:38,280 Um… 848 00:52:38,363 --> 00:52:40,699 [inhales and sighs] 849 00:52:40,782 --> 00:52:42,993 [Meghan] I didn't know what he was gonna ask me. 850 00:52:43,827 --> 00:52:46,329 I hadn't touched up my makeup. I hadn't… I was just fried. 851 00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:49,166 [Tom] I don't know what the impact on your physical and mental health, 852 00:52:49,249 --> 00:52:51,543 of all the pressure that you clearly feel under. 853 00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:55,088 Um… 854 00:52:55,881 --> 00:53:00,760 I would say, look, any woman when they're… especially when they're pregnant, 855 00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:04,014 you're really vulnerable and 856 00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:08,810 you add this on top of just trying to be a new mom 857 00:53:08,894 --> 00:53:11,396 or trying to be a newlywed, it's um… 858 00:53:13,815 --> 00:53:15,901 Yeah, well, I guess… And also thank you for asking, 859 00:53:15,984 --> 00:53:19,988 because not many people have asked if I'm okay. But it's, uh… 860 00:53:21,865 --> 00:53:25,118 It's a very real thing to be going through behind the scenes. 861 00:53:25,202 --> 00:53:29,623 [Tom] And the answer is, would it be fair to say, not really okay? 862 00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:32,209 As in it's really been a struggle? 863 00:53:32,292 --> 00:53:33,251 Yes. 864 00:53:33,335 --> 00:53:34,377 [Tom inhales] 865 00:53:35,921 --> 00:53:37,881 [Meghan] And I guess because I was so exhausted, 866 00:53:37,964 --> 00:53:40,634 I was just really grateful 867 00:53:40,717 --> 00:53:44,179 that someone seemed to ask me something like I was a human being. 868 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:48,433 I mean, in… I guess I just never thought they'd even use it in the documentary. 869 00:53:49,017 --> 00:53:51,311 I remember just saying, "Bye, we'll see you on our flight." 870 00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:53,521 Went and gave Archie a bath. 871 00:53:54,022 --> 00:53:55,899 And then we got in the car, 872 00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:59,152 got on the flight with everybody and… 873 00:53:59,694 --> 00:54:03,281 [poignant music playing] 874 00:54:06,785 --> 00:54:10,956 [Meghan] I had no idea that was gonna be the thing that traveled around the world. 875 00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:15,418 You suddenly go, "Oh, wow, that… What I said was… Has gone… 876 00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:17,462 Like… It's like, yes, it's global. 877 00:54:17,545 --> 00:54:18,797 [tweet sound] 878 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,675 [Meghan] That's, I think, what spawned that hashtag, #WeLoveYouMeghan. 879 00:54:21,758 --> 00:54:27,681 [poignant music continues] 880 00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:31,142 [Meghan] It hit a chord for everyone for something specific to them. 881 00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:35,981 Moms thought, "Oh my God, just like me. No one asked me as a mom if I'm okay." 882 00:54:36,982 --> 00:54:39,651 Someone of color would be like, "No one's asked me if I'm okay 883 00:54:39,734 --> 00:54:41,486 when I'm in a situation like this." 884 00:54:42,487 --> 00:54:45,657 [Harry] I think someone in your position speaking so openly about it 885 00:54:46,157 --> 00:54:49,202 made so many other women feel seen. 886 00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:55,417 [James] People have asked me what the causes were. 887 00:54:56,209 --> 00:54:57,961 My view is it doesn't matter. 888 00:54:58,044 --> 00:55:00,255 I think that when we start down 889 00:55:00,338 --> 00:55:05,677 a path of trying to get someone to justify 890 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,763 why they feel depressed, 891 00:55:08,847 --> 00:55:13,184 that's a dangerous place for us to be. 892 00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:17,355 What you had was someone that was struggling 893 00:55:18,189 --> 00:55:19,441 and she needed more help. 894 00:55:23,445 --> 00:55:25,905 No one in the family speaks that openly. 895 00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:28,158 No one had done, apart from one person. 896 00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:29,784 My mum. 897 00:55:29,868 --> 00:55:33,246 In a space of a year, my whole life changed, 898 00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:34,581 turned upside down. 899 00:55:34,664 --> 00:55:37,083 I never had had a depression in my life. 900 00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:38,376 But then when I analyzed it, 901 00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:42,047 I could see that the changes I've made in the last year 902 00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:43,673 had all caught up with me. 903 00:55:43,757 --> 00:55:48,011 I was at the end of my tether. I was desperate. 904 00:55:48,595 --> 00:55:50,263 Because I am a very strong person 905 00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:54,851 and I know that causes complications in the system that I live in. 906 00:55:56,478 --> 00:55:59,356 From an Institutional perspective, there was something wrong with her, 907 00:55:59,439 --> 00:56:02,525 as opposed to the environment or the system which we were part of. 908 00:56:02,609 --> 00:56:03,818 [soft music playing] 909 00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:06,905 [woman on TV] All this candor has won Harry and Meghan 910 00:56:06,988 --> 00:56:09,157 some sympathy among the British public, 911 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:13,745 but rumblings from the palace suggest it hasn't gone down quite so well. 912 00:56:13,828 --> 00:56:15,497 [tense music playing] 913 00:56:17,749 --> 00:56:20,210 The fallout was bonkers. 914 00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:22,545 Every single front page in the UK was like 915 00:56:22,629 --> 00:56:27,050 very different to what the general public's reaction was. 916 00:56:29,386 --> 00:56:33,890 When you would expect support from the people closest, 917 00:56:33,973 --> 00:56:34,933 we got the opposite. 918 00:56:37,769 --> 00:56:40,480 [Meghan] There's only so much you can take on your own. 919 00:56:40,563 --> 00:56:43,566 So you end up saying, "Something has to change." 920 00:56:44,984 --> 00:56:46,111 It was a huge turning point. 921 00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:50,073 It's when we started having harder conversations 922 00:56:50,657 --> 00:56:56,121 about what needs to happen for us to be able to continue to make this work. 923 00:57:04,879 --> 00:57:10,385 ["You Don't Own Me" by Lesley Gore playing] 924 00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:16,766 ♪ You don't own me ♪ 925 00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:21,396 ♪ I'm not just one of your many toys ♪ 926 00:57:21,479 --> 00:57:24,399 ♪ You don't own me ♪ 927 00:57:25,024 --> 00:57:31,197 ♪ Don't say I can't go with other boys ♪ 928 00:57:31,281 --> 00:57:34,826 ♪ And don't tell me what to do ♪ 929 00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:38,830 ♪ Don't tell me what to say ♪ 930 00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:42,834 ♪ And please, when I go out with you ♪ 931 00:57:42,917 --> 00:57:48,006 ♪ Don't put me on display, 'cause ♪ 932 00:57:48,089 --> 00:57:50,675 ♪ You don't own me ♪ 933 00:57:51,551 --> 00:57:55,555 ♪ Don't try to change me in any way ♪ 934 00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:58,433 ♪ You don't own me ♪ 935 00:57:59,142 --> 00:58:04,814 ♪ Don't tie me down 'Cause I'd never stay ♪ 936 00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:09,194 ♪ I don't tell you what to say ♪ 937 00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:12,947 ♪ I don't tell you what to do ♪ 938 00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:17,035 ♪ So just let me be myself ♪ 939 00:58:17,118 --> 00:58:20,455 ♪ That's all I ask of you ♪ 940 00:58:20,538 --> 00:58:24,167 ♪ I'm young and I love to be young ♪ 941 00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:28,171 ♪ I'm free and I love to be free ♪ 942 00:58:28,254 --> 00:58:31,716 ♪ To live my life the way I want ♪ 943 00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:35,553 ♪ To say and do whatever I please ♪ 81651

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