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LAWRENCE [in English]:
Eichmann is something
of a logistical mastermind
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and he does this
with full awareness
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that the result of deporting
these Jewish persons
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to these killing centers
is that they're going
to be killed.
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[clangs]
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- Previously
onThe Devil's -
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The Lost Eichmann's Tapes.
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Israeli Attorney General
Gideon Hausner
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is determined
to find the tapes
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Willem Sassen recorded
with Adolf Eichmann
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to prove he is the architect
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of the "Final Solution
to the Jewish Question."
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Faced with the suspected
interference
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from the West German,
Israeli, and US governments
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in his attempts
to secure the tapes,
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Hausner manages to somehow
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obtain transcripts
of the recordings
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that include notes
from Eichmann.
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But will the court allow them
to be admitted into evidence?
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GIDEON [in German]
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MAN [in German]
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Adolf Eichmann.
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NARRATOR [in English]:
Nazis have always denied
their role in the Holocaust.
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[in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
After the war,
many fled Europe,
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including the architect
of the Final Solution-
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Adolf Eichmann.
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He's practically
the last important Nazi
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who arrived in Argentina
after the war.
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While hiding in Argentina,
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Eichmann records
a series of interviews
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with Nazi journalist
Willem Sassen,
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admitting his role
in the Holocaust.
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Sassen came up
with this crazy idea
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that he would interview
the mastermind
of the Holocaust.
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This is him boasting
about what he did.
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[light switch clicks on]
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The tapes are rediscovered.
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And now for the first time,
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we'll hear Eichmann
admitting his crimes,
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a true Nazi confession.
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[in German]
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GIDEON [in Hebrew]
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[in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
Eichmann denies that the
transcripts are his words,
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challenging Hausner
to produce
the original recordings.
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ADOLF [in German]
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[in English]
Eichmann plays full risk
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and is 100% sure that the
tapes will never be heard
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because he knows
what else is on these tapes.
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Hausner
must convince the court
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of the validity
of the transcripts
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before they can be
admitted into evidence.
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We know that the tapes exist,
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because they exist
to this day.
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Did the Israeli government
know the tapes existed?
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And so the mystery,
the enduring mystery,
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is why the people
that had access to the tapes
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didn't tell the prosecutors
that those tapes existed.
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As Hausner waits
for a ruling on the
transcripts' admission,
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the trial continues
in Jerusalem.
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And the Attorney General
pursues a new strategy
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to prove that Eichmann
is not just a simple
bureaucrat,
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but also a cold-blooded
murderer himself.
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[in Hebrew]
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[in English] On some level,
Hausner still found it
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necessary to try to add:
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"And yes, he killed someone
with his own hands."
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[in German]
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LAWRENCE [in English]:
Eichmann only really becomes
very agitated
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in really rebutting
that claim.
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So he's really passionate
about saying,
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"I didn't kill anyone
with my own hands."
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So I-I'm willing to give him
the benefit of the doubt
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that he didn't beat anyone
to death with his own hands.
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And ultimately, the judges
did not accept that.
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But that has nothing to do
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with, again,
the kind of nature
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of bureaucratic
responsibility,
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which Hausner
himself recognizes
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as the key crime
that he's responsible for.
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MICHAEL [in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
On the tapes, Eichmann refers
to the same man,
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the commander of the
Auschwitz extermination camp,
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Rudolf Hoöss, as a role model.
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ADOLF [in German]
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[in Hebrew]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
Hausner learns
from the Sassen transcripts
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that Eichmann met Hoöss
in Budapest.
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It is in Hungary
where Eichmann commits
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perhaps
his most heinous crime-
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the mass murder
of Hungarian Jews
towards the end of the war.
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Actually, you could
conduct a trial solely
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around the Hungarian affair.
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Doing so would be
quite convincing
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that the trial
is a fair trial.
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Nobody would say any criticism
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about the handling
of the trial and its outcome.
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[in German]
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[birds chirping]
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HANNA [in English]: Hungary
was a relatively safe place
for Jews
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during Second World War
until May of 1944.
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In Hungary still lives
the largest community,
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untouched, about 800,000
Jews,
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and they are convinced
that they will come out
of the war
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completely unharmed.
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[bomb whistling]
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[explosion]
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The Soviet army
was standing
at the Hungarian border.
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They were ready to cross
the mountains into Hungary.
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What is clear at that point
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is that Germany
is going to lose this war.
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For the Hungarian Jews,
there was so much hope.
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Eichmann comes in
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and he organizes
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he deportation
of Hungarian Jews.
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The people he brought with him
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were also all
experienced deporters.
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They had deported Jews
from all over Europe,
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and they knew how to do it.
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And they also knew
that the Hungarian government
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would play along with them,
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the marionettes.
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He gets Hungarian railways,
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the Hungarian militia,
the Hungarian police.
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Nazi law requires Jews
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in all communities across
the occupied territories
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to form a Judenrat,
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a Jewish council
of local leaders.
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Eichmann then sets
about gaining the trust
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of these Jewish
community leaders
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and puts pressure on them
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to help
with the deportations.
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The Eichmann system
is first of all
to use pressure
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to help him
organize deportations.
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When he arrives in Budapest,
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he has a meeting
with the leaders of the
Hungarian Jewish community.
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He says to them,
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"You know, you have to wear
the yellow star
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and you have to pay
for it yourself,
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but if you do what I say,
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everything will be okay."
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I met a woman,
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she remembers her father
coming home from the meeting
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and saying to her mother,
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"We can work with this man."
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WILLEM [in German]
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EVA [in English]:
Most of these Jewish families
from the countryside
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believed that it could not
happen with them.
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They will be deported
for work in Germany
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and they prepared
themselves also that way,
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so if you see
what they brought,
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uh, these 50-kilogram
packages,
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for example, a doctor
prepared himself as a doctor.
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-[chattering]
-And then,
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of course, they believed
that they will work
as a doctor in Germany.
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Forced labor, but still work.
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[indistinct chattering]
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I never ever heard
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about a letter to the mayor
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or to the school director
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asking, "What happened
with my Jewish neighbors?"
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We must remember it
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as the most shameful event
in Hungarian history.
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Such a united effort
for that single purpose
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to deport and transport
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so many Hungarian
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fellow citizens
from this country.
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GIDEON [in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
During the trial, Eichmann
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adamantly
denies responsibility
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for the massacre
of Hungary's Jews.
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But on the tapes,
Eichmann does not
dispute his role
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and admits
that the deportations
happened quickly.
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WILLEM [in German]
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HANNA [in English]:
My own mother
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arrived in Auschwitz
in September of 1944.
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She didn't know
what is that place.
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Where did she arrive to?
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We have an album,
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the Auschwitz album,
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which has pictures
of one of the transports
from Hungary.
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You see people
very well-dressed,
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standing in a very
idyllic forest
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like on a lovely
Sunday picnic.
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They are standing in circles.
they are sitting
on the ground.
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Some of them are laughing.
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The gap between
what you see in the pictures
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and what you know
that will happen
in the next half an hour,
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it is a completely
classical illustration
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of the way Eichmann
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cheated his victims
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to believe that no harm
will happen to them.
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MARTIN [in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
To prove that Eichmann
played a key role in Hungary,
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Hausner calls witnesses
to testify
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that knew Eichmann
during that time.
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[in Hebrew]
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RONI [in English]: Only once
during the trial did someone
from the gallery cry out:
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"You, the Jewish leadership,
you saved yourselves.
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You ran away."
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The man crying out from the
crowd during the testimony
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is no accident.
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He accuses
Hungarian community leaders
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of collaborating
with the Nazis
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and abandoning their people.
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Gideon Hausner's great fear
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was that the trial
would be riddled
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with accounts
between the Jews
and themselves.
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There were Jews
who collaborated
with the Nazis.
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There's no hiding that.
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ADOLF [in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
On the tapes,
Eichmann mentions
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various Jewish leaders.
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Among them
is Israel Kasztner,
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a Hungarian community leader
and representative
of the Zionist movement
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that will become
the Israeli government.
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The story of Kasztner
and the accusations
against him,
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both during and after
the war,
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are so controversial
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that the mention of his name
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is probably something
Ben-Gurion and his government
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would prefer to keep out
of the Eichmann trial.
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The image of Kasztner hovers
over Eichmann's trial.
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Kasztner arranged for a train
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of around 1,600
prominent Hungarian Jews,
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including members
of his own family,
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to basically, um,
go to Switzerland.
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And one of the questions
that, uh, arose
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was whether Kasztner
was a collaborator
with the devil.
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The devil
in question is Eichmann.
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After the war,
Kastner is accused
by many Jewish survivors
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of collaborating
with the Nazis
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to keep the nature
of the deportations a secret
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in exchange for the freedom
of those he managed to save.
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There are Jews in Hungary,
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survivors to this day
and certainly their offspring,
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who feel that Kasztner
could have warned them
and didn't.
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Kasztner insisted he did warn,
he did tell in the underground
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and that he did save
more Jews
than anybody else saved,
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more Jews than Schindler.
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And this had become
a cause célèbre
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in the first years
of the State of Israel,
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because it raised the question
of dealing with the devil.
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SUZANNE [in Hebrew]
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[in English]
We haven't yet heard, have we,
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what happened
to these Jews from Hungary?
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Later,
at the Nuremberg Trials,
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Kasztner testifies
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on behalf of accused Nazis.
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When asked
why he would do such a thing,
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Kasztner astonishes everyone
by admitting
that he'd done so
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at the request
of the provisional
Israeli government.
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But many deny
Kasztner's claims.
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SUZZANE [in Hebrew]
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[in English] It is clear that
Ben-Gurion is denying this.
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The leadership
of the settlement
would not protect people
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who were involved
in the murder of Jews
in Europe.
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It's unfathomable,
it's unforgivable.
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Kasztner feels
abandoned by the Israeli
government,
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knowing they fear
he will reveal the reason
for his testimony.
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On the night
between March 3rd and 4th,
when he returned to his home,
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three assassins were waiting
outside the building
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-and shot him.
-[gunfire]
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[ambulance in a distance]
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Ten days later,
he passed away.
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[in Hebrew]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
Kasztner dies,
never revealing the reason
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for his testimony
in Nuremberg.
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The secrets he knew
about the Israeli government
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are thought
to be safe forever.
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But just four years later,
the risk of the secrets
being revealed returns
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when the possibility
of Sassen's tapes
being heard in court emerges.
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The tapes contain information
that connects to Kasztner's
testimony in Nuremberg.
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Eichmann discusses
a Nazi officer named
Kurt Becher,
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who is one of the men
that Kasztner testifies for
at the trials.
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Becher manages the assets
seized from the
Hungarian Jews,
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including companies
like Manfred Weiss Steel,
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which had 40,000 employees
during the war.
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And Eichmann mentions
on the tapes.
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WILLEM [in German]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
Years later,
a possible reason
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for Kasztner's testimony
at Nuremberg is revealed.
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Declassified
documents confirm
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that the young State
of Israel used funds
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that Kurt Becher seized
from Jewish families
during the war
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to obtain arms.
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Ben-Gurion feared
that at the Eichmann trial
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people would discover
what he had managed to hide.
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He somehow managed
to shift the blame
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00:30:09,415 --> 00:30:11,635
against him
and the Zionist leadership
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for what they did
or didn't do,
vis a vis the Nazis.
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He feared that everything
would be revealed
with Eichmann
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and he didn't want
the Sassen interview.
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00:30:19,338 --> 00:30:21,993
Ben-Gurion is scarred
from the Kasztner affair.
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The Israeli leadership learns
from the "Life" article
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that Kasztner helps Eichmann
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to keep the Hungarian Jews
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from resisting deportation
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00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:35,180
in exchange for allowing
a few hundred Jews
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train passage to Switzerland.
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And they fear
what else might be revealed.
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Hausner's request
that the transcripts
of the Sassen
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Sassen interviews
be admitted into evidence
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00:30:49,673 --> 00:30:52,023
once again
creates a sense of concern
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on the part
of the Israeli government.
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But Eichmann's lawyer,
Servatius,
objects to their admittance
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based on the fact
that there is no way to prove
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that the transcripts
are Eichmann's actual words.
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JUDGE MOSHE [in Hebrew]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
The judges decide
to disqualify
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the 700 pages
of the Sassen transcripts,
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but makes an exception
for a few pages
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where Eichmann's notes
are clearly visible.
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00:31:41,943 --> 00:31:45,685
There was no way
that Hausner
could actually verify
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00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:49,385
the truthfulness
of the transcripts themselves.
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Now, he did not have
the audiotapes.
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Here my explanation begins
to be within the realm
of conspiracy.
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Because if this document
is given life,
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it proves the accusations
against Kasztner.
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00:32:01,266 --> 00:32:03,181
It proves the allegations
against Kasztner.
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00:32:03,225 --> 00:32:04,835
It proves the allegations
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00:32:04,878 --> 00:32:07,142
against the Zionist movement
in Hungary,
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00:32:07,185 --> 00:32:10,014
which is affiliated
to the ruling party
of the Israeli government.
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00:32:10,058 --> 00:32:13,061
The Mossad hides many things
about the Eichmann affair
to this day
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00:32:13,104 --> 00:32:16,542
and the Secret Service
hides details
about the Kasztner affair,
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00:32:16,586 --> 00:32:18,022
because if these things
are discovered
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00:32:18,066 --> 00:32:20,851
even today,
they will cause a storm.
329
00:32:20,894 --> 00:32:22,722
The fuse hasn't yet been
neutralized.
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00:32:22,766 --> 00:32:25,160
[gunshot]
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00:32:25,203 --> 00:32:28,206
Much surrounding
Kasztner's death
remains a mystery.
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00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:29,947
Three men with ties
to a right-wing
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00:32:29,991 --> 00:32:31,557
underground movement
were arrested.
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00:32:33,037 --> 00:32:34,821
They claimed
they acted alone.
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00:32:34,865 --> 00:32:36,562
Convicted of murder,
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00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:37,999
they were sentenced
to life in prison.
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00:32:39,913 --> 00:32:43,221
But in 1963, just a year
after the Eichmann trial,
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00:32:43,265 --> 00:32:45,876
they were all mysteriously
granted a full pardon
339
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:47,791
and released from prison.
340
00:32:49,923 --> 00:32:51,795
[tape whirring]
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00:32:54,058 --> 00:32:56,626
While the tapes
are never heard
during the trial,
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00:32:56,669 --> 00:32:59,063
Eichmann clearly says
that Kasztner confronted him
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00:32:59,107 --> 00:33:01,370
regarding the fate
of his fellow Jews.
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00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,765
ADOLF [in German]
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00:33:28,092 --> 00:33:30,312
BETTINA [in English]:
Eichmann was so proud
of himself.
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00:33:30,355 --> 00:33:33,967
He was able to manipulate
Kasztner
and take advantage of him
347
00:33:35,186 --> 00:33:38,320
so that Kasztner could not
get a true picture of reality.
348
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:44,543
I believe that from
this part of the tapes,
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00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:47,938
the tough situation Kasztner
was in becomes much clearer
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00:33:47,981 --> 00:33:49,983
and appears
in a different light.
351
00:33:50,027 --> 00:33:54,031
You get a much fairer
perspective of it.
352
00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:56,381
The disqualification
of the Sassen transcripts
353
00:33:56,425 --> 00:33:59,036
is a victory for the defense
354
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,865
and a major blow
to Attorney General Hausner's
case against Eichmann.
355
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,828
Since Eichmann denied
that those were his words,
356
00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:12,745
even though his handwriting
was on certain pages,
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00:34:12,789 --> 00:34:14,660
you had to have the tapes.
358
00:34:16,184 --> 00:34:18,882
Naturally, Gideon Hausner
would have given anything
359
00:34:18,925 --> 00:34:21,624
to be able to play the
Eichmann recordings in court.
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00:34:25,584 --> 00:34:27,760
And there was a rumor
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00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:30,459
that the trial took so long,
because he always hoped
for it.
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00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:38,858
Unable to locate
the tapes or use the majority
of the transcripts
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00:34:38,902 --> 00:34:40,773
to prove Eichmann's guilt,
364
00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:43,689
Hausner summons
the survivors
of the Holocaust
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00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:47,084
to confront Eichmann
with the horrors
his crimes inflicted.
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00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:51,871
[in Hebrew]
367
00:34:51,915 --> 00:34:53,786
Avraham Aviel.
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00:34:56,876 --> 00:34:59,183
DEBORAH [in English]:
Today when you speak about
survivors:
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00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:02,447
"Our honored survivors,"
"our treasured survivors,"
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00:35:02,491 --> 00:35:06,582
but then there was even
a feeling, common enough,
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00:35:06,625 --> 00:35:10,934
that we know you must have
stepped on someone to survive.
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00:35:12,675 --> 00:35:14,851
[in Hebrew]
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NARRATOR [in English]:
The author Yehiel De-Nur,
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00:36:51,295 --> 00:36:53,471
known by his pen name
Ka-Tsetnik,
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00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:55,995
writes books influenced
by his time
as a prisoner
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00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:57,606
in the Auschwitz death camp.
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00:36:58,389 --> 00:37:01,305
He told me that he did
not want to testify.
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00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:04,395
He was not sleeping,
he couldn't eat.
379
00:37:04,439 --> 00:37:08,660
And Hausner put
such a heavy pressure on him
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00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:10,836
that his resistance broke.
381
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,317
[in Hebrew]
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00:37:17,887 --> 00:37:20,193
NARRATOR [in English]:
He took his pen name,
Ka-Tsetnik,
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00:37:20,237 --> 00:37:23,414
from the initials
for the German word
for "concentration camp"
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00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:25,155
and the number
that was tattooed
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00:37:25,198 --> 00:37:27,636
on each prisoner's arm
by the Nazis.
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00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:31,770
[in Hebrew]
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00:38:05,282 --> 00:38:08,067
HANNA [in English]:
In retrospect,
Hausner was right.
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00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:09,852
In the collective memory,
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00:38:09,895 --> 00:38:13,246
the one testimony
that was imprinted forcefully
390
00:38:13,856 --> 00:38:16,815
was that testimony
of Ka-Tsetnik.
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00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:22,168
ZVI [in Hebrew]
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00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:23,926
NARRATOR [in English]:
Miki Goldman serves
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00:39:23,969 --> 00:39:26,189
as Hausner's assistant
during the trial.
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00:39:26,232 --> 00:39:29,410
One survivor's testimony
will stick with him forever.
395
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,238
[in German]
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00:39:56,872 --> 00:39:58,308
[gavel thuds]
397
00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:45,442
DEBORAH [in English]:
I think there was a tendency,
certainly amongst Israelis,
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00:40:45,921 --> 00:40:49,968
to see survivors
as the "Ghetto Jews."
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00:40:50,752 --> 00:40:54,233
They called them "Sabonim,"
the soaps,
400
00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:57,759
the people who were supposed
to be made into soap.
401
00:40:58,716 --> 00:41:01,023
So, in other words,
they're not like us.
402
00:41:01,066 --> 00:41:03,808
There was something
fatally flawed about them
403
00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:06,898
that they allowed this
to happen to them.
404
00:41:06,942 --> 00:41:09,422
[in German]
405
00:41:31,053 --> 00:41:34,012
GIDEON [in English]
These people,
these tongue-tied people,
406
00:41:34,056 --> 00:41:36,493
they'll never be again
the same as they were before
407
00:41:36,537 --> 00:41:41,454
Hitler came there
and before the roof
caved in on them.
408
00:41:41,977 --> 00:41:44,327
Uh, there is something
traumatic
409
00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:47,330
in their make-up which
will never be good again.
410
00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:51,595
AMOS [in German]
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00:42:06,175 --> 00:42:09,134
NARRATOR [in English]:
At the conclusion
of the witnesses' testimony,
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00:42:09,178 --> 00:42:10,832
Hausner confronts Eichmann
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00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:12,660
with irrefutable evidence
414
00:42:12,703 --> 00:42:15,576
of the atrocities committed
by the Nazis.
415
00:42:23,496 --> 00:42:26,587
All the lights were off
in the courtroom
416
00:42:27,675 --> 00:42:30,634
and documentary pictures
or news pictures
417
00:42:30,678 --> 00:42:32,941
were being projected
on the wall.
418
00:42:34,029 --> 00:42:38,860
Bodies being bulldozed
into a death pit.
419
00:42:39,164 --> 00:42:40,296
Awful!
420
00:42:43,778 --> 00:42:45,867
But we had one camera
on Eichmann
421
00:42:47,129 --> 00:42:49,827
and it looked
as if he was laughing.
422
00:42:56,399 --> 00:42:59,968
This was the first time
you could see who's Eichmann,
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00:43:00,011 --> 00:43:01,273
what he felt like.
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00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:09,847
ADOLF [in German]
425
00:44:05,555 --> 00:44:07,383
NARRATOR [in English]:
Finally, Gideon Hausner
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00:44:07,426 --> 00:44:10,516
provides one last crucial
piece of evidence.
427
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,693
Towards the end of the war,
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00:44:12,736 --> 00:44:15,260
Eichmann commits
perhaps his most
devilish crime,
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00:44:15,304 --> 00:44:19,438
as it becomes clear
that Germany
is going to lose the war.
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00:44:19,482 --> 00:44:21,745
REPORTER
It is certainly great news
431
00:44:21,789 --> 00:44:23,529
when we heard
that the 7th British
armored division,
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00:44:23,573 --> 00:44:25,140
the "Desert Rats"
is in action in France
433
00:44:25,183 --> 00:44:27,708
and the Germans
don't like it.
434
00:44:27,751 --> 00:44:29,710
They know to their cost
what it is
to come in contact with them.
435
00:44:30,798 --> 00:44:35,716
There was a vision
among some leading Nazis,
Himmler among them,
436
00:44:35,759 --> 00:44:39,589
that there would emerge
some kind of Nazi Germany
without Hitler.
437
00:44:39,632 --> 00:44:41,591
And there came
438
00:44:41,634 --> 00:44:44,986
[stutters]
the order from Himmler
439
00:44:45,029 --> 00:44:46,988
to stop the deportations.
440
00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:51,775
And still, there was this one
transport
441
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:56,388
that Eichmann sent
against Himmler's order
to Auschwitz.
442
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,217
[chattering]
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00:44:59,261 --> 00:45:01,089
He could say
whatever he wanted,
444
00:45:01,132 --> 00:45:06,050
being a small wheel
in a big engine
445
00:45:06,094 --> 00:45:07,748
and obeying orders.
446
00:45:07,791 --> 00:45:11,229
At this point,
he went against orders
447
00:45:11,273 --> 00:45:15,146
and he killed 2,000 people.
448
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:17,105
[chattering]
449
00:45:18,584 --> 00:45:21,239
His insane fanaticism
in Hungary,
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00:45:21,283 --> 00:45:24,547
where he even went
behind the back of his
great superior,
451
00:45:24,590 --> 00:45:26,244
Heinrich Himmler.
452
00:45:26,288 --> 00:45:29,204
He made moves
he was not allowed to do
453
00:45:29,247 --> 00:45:32,860
just to finally accomplish
one achievement
454
00:45:32,903 --> 00:45:35,340
written on his own name,
Adolf Eichmann.
455
00:45:42,434 --> 00:45:46,830
Without the tapes,
the biggest challenge
Hausner faced
456
00:45:46,874 --> 00:45:50,791
was to break Eichmann
during the cross-examination,
457
00:45:50,834 --> 00:45:54,577
to admit that
he was a key person
458
00:45:54,620 --> 00:45:57,841
in the execution
of the "Final Solution."
459
00:45:58,842 --> 00:46:00,017
Hausner failed.
460
00:46:00,061 --> 00:46:02,193
Eichmann did not break
461
00:46:02,890 --> 00:46:05,022
through the cross-examination.
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00:46:07,677 --> 00:46:11,681
[in German]
463
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:43,719
NARRATOR [in English]:
Hausner later wrote
in his book,
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00:49:43,762 --> 00:49:45,590
Justice In Jerusalem,
465
00:49:45,634 --> 00:49:47,288
"I wanted to get
the Sassen tapes
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00:49:47,331 --> 00:49:48,680
to bring Eichmann's defense
467
00:49:48,724 --> 00:49:51,683
to a complete standstill.
468
00:49:51,727 --> 00:49:55,165
Then he could
hardly have been able
to deny his own voice."
469
00:49:55,209 --> 00:49:57,211
Hausner also mentions
in the book
470
00:49:57,254 --> 00:49:59,343
that an anonymous source
471
00:49:59,387 --> 00:50:01,389
offered him the opportunity
to purchase the recordings,
472
00:50:01,432 --> 00:50:04,348
with one condition:
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00:50:04,392 --> 00:50:07,917
that he could not play them
in the courtroom
during the trial.
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00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,920
Hausner refuses,
and the Sassen recordings
475
00:50:10,963 --> 00:50:13,749
are never played
at the Eichmann trial.
476
00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:21,104
Why those tapes didn't appear
477
00:50:21,148 --> 00:50:24,020
and make it possible
to introduce as a confession
478
00:50:24,542 --> 00:50:29,243
Eichmann's own words?
Why didn't they appear
at the trial?
479
00:50:29,286 --> 00:50:33,029
The answer to that question
has great moral consequences.
480
00:50:33,073 --> 00:50:35,727
If there is one thing
that is very clear today,
481
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:38,382
it's that the abduction
of Eichmann
482
00:50:38,948 --> 00:50:43,387
hit the most sensitive part
in the semi-secret relations
483
00:50:43,431 --> 00:50:45,346
between Israel and Germany,
484
00:50:45,389 --> 00:50:48,784
or, if you like,
between Ben-Gurion
and Adenauer.
485
00:50:50,481 --> 00:50:52,527
Adenauer had a meeting
486
00:50:52,570 --> 00:50:54,572
with the director
of the Israel Mission
in Germany.
487
00:50:57,662 --> 00:50:59,925
And he said something
scandalous:
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00:50:59,969 --> 00:51:02,624
If Israel agrees
that we stop these trials
489
00:51:02,667 --> 00:51:05,931
and don't start chasing
after Nazis
all over the world,
490
00:51:06,628 --> 00:51:09,239
I will promote
the diplomatic relations.
491
00:51:16,986 --> 00:51:21,295
We got the tapes
in 1999
492
00:51:21,338 --> 00:51:24,820
from a newspaper
in Switzerland.
493
00:51:25,299 --> 00:51:28,171
We knew that this newspaper
494
00:51:28,215 --> 00:51:31,479
bought these tapes
from the family of Eichmann.
495
00:51:32,262 --> 00:51:34,743
Can you tell us
who is the owner of the tapes?
496
00:51:35,135 --> 00:51:39,791
We have signed
that we won't tell
who the owner is.
497
00:51:42,229 --> 00:51:46,058
Sassen always knew
the value of the Eichmann
recordings.
498
00:51:46,102 --> 00:51:47,756
Just before his death,
499
00:51:47,799 --> 00:51:50,237
he gives the tapes
to the Eichmann family,
500
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,674
likely in an attempt to,
in some way,
501
00:51:52,717 --> 00:51:56,765
make up for his betraying
his fellow Nazi comrade.
502
00:51:56,808 --> 00:51:58,854
Around the same time,
503
00:51:58,897 --> 00:52:01,770
Sassen is secretly filmed
by an Argentinian filmmaker
504
00:52:01,813 --> 00:52:04,164
and asked about his sessions
with Eichmann.
505
00:52:04,903 --> 00:52:07,689
MAN [in German]
506
00:52:33,628 --> 00:52:35,717
[tape whirring]
507
00:53:13,624 --> 00:53:15,496
TIMOTHY [in English]:
We are very fortunate
508
00:53:15,539 --> 00:53:18,673
that due to Sassen's delusions
509
00:53:18,716 --> 00:53:21,458
and Eichmann's vanity,
510
00:53:21,502 --> 00:53:23,982
we have an incontrovertible
confession
511
00:53:24,983 --> 00:53:27,551
from the architect
of the Holocaust.
512
00:53:27,595 --> 00:53:30,250
So the tapes...
the legacy of the tapes,
513
00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:33,296
[stutters] it's hopeful,
514
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:37,822
which means that
there's hope
that big lies can be exploded.
515
00:53:38,345 --> 00:53:41,870
Perpetrators of such crimes
516
00:53:41,913 --> 00:53:44,133
should never feel comfortable
517
00:53:45,221 --> 00:53:46,918
that they can get away
with them.
518
00:53:46,962 --> 00:53:49,225
They might have been sure
in 1959,
519
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:53,360
but after 1960,
520
00:53:54,186 --> 00:53:58,234
they could never quite sleep
as soundly
and that was a good thing.
521
00:54:00,802 --> 00:54:04,196
[in German]
522
00:54:33,617 --> 00:54:35,576
GABRIEL [in German]
523
00:55:01,819 --> 00:55:04,256
[in Hebrew]
524
00:55:58,049 --> 00:56:00,225
MICHAEL [in German]
525
00:56:50,232 --> 00:56:52,190
TAMI [in German]
526
00:57:23,657 --> 00:57:26,790
[closing theme music playing]
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