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♪
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My name is Johannes,
and I have a problem.
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I like Pachelbel's Canon in D.
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Even worse, I use it at least
once in all of my films.
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Why?
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Because it was part
of the soundtrack
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of a TV series called Cosmos,
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and it is burnt
into my existence
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like an emotional cobalt bomb.
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I first heard
the melody in 1982
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in a place called Austria.
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This is what Austria looks like.
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Austria is primarily known
for music and mass murder,
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a culturally challenged country
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deep in the Heart of Darkness
of Europe.
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My last name is long
and complicated,
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Grenzfurthner.
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"Grenze" means "border,"
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and a "furt" is something
like a shallow creek or ford,
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like that charismatic
U.S. president.
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So in English my name
would be Johnny Borderforder.
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Has an exciting ring to it,
don't you think?
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English is the lingua franca
of late capitalism,
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so I decided to stick with it.
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Everything in German
sounds like a war crime,
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and everything
in Austrian German
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sounds like a war crime
served with whipped cream.
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♪
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I was born in 1975,
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a year that
is known for the end
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of the Vietnam conflicts,
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a geopolitical proxy war
that, in the long run,
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brought us great
plot elements for films
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like Joe Dante's Piranha
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and the very underrated
Jacob's Ladder by Adrian Lyne.
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Microsoft was founded,
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Michel Foucault published
Discipline and Punish,
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and a guy named Spielberg
released a blockbuster
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about a Great White one,
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and I'm not talking
about Richard Nixon.
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I was an only child
and grew up in the countryside.
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If there's a bright
center to the universe,
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I lived in a place
- Stockerau.
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Stockerau's claim to fame
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is providing Austria
with its first Catholic saint,
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a poor Irish guy
who was hung as a spy
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because of his, quote,
"strange appearance."
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When his corpse wouldn't decay
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and the tree they hung him on
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started to bloom
in mid-winter,
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the Stockerauians
gladly reassessed
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their impromptu flash mob.
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They built a cloister
and a kindergarten.
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I can still smell the red beet
they served me there.
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The Body of Christ
for vegetarians.
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That was me, age 6.
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Elton John.
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Woschi Woschi Wau Wau,
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the doggie that never pooped.
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I loved Neil Armstrong,
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and turning dirt
into moon dust,
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and battle cruisers,
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and helicopter crashes.
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Books and comics
were the best thing ever.
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♪
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I was a huge fan
of Richard Scarry,
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and I constructed submarines
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to explore the Mariana Trench,
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but I also built tree houses
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that grew into huge
post-apocalyptic mansions.
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I accidentally killed a chicken
with a chemical experiment.
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I hid the body in a fodder silo.
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My family still
thinks it was the fox.
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My childhood took place
in an interesting time--
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"interesting" in that old
Chinese-proverb sense--
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the gloomy heydays
of the Cold War.
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♪
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♪
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We only had two TV channels,
can you imagine?
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But my dad had
the consumer power
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of a real Baby Boomer,
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and obtained a VHS video
recorder as early as 1980,
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I assume to watch porn.
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I was, without knowing,
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part of the first generation
of the information age,
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a native of
the radical technological
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and societal shift
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that's now called
"globalization."
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A completely hollow term,
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but sometimes even hollow terms
cast long shadows.
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I was a good observer.
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I learned a lot
about basic biology
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from Grandpa Zucker,
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like after
slaughtering pigs,
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the stray cats always
ate the testicles first.
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I also spotted that
our neighbor's hallway tiles
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had the structure
of LCD characters.
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I never managed
to unsee this fact.
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My grandmother
always used to stay:
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The kids gave me nicknames
like "UFO-Hannes."
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That certainly created
a level of isolation,
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but also one that let me
look for creative ways
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to deal with my obsessions.
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I compiled my own cut-and-paste
popular science books
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on the really bad Xerox machine
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of the Volkspartei
Niederösterreich,
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or I made short films.
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Well, I guess I started
the genre of docuploitation.
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I wrote stories
about exotic diseases
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like "brain-aquaplaning,"
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and not to forget a play
called The Hole In The Andes.
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A couple of scientists
who do research
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in the mountain range
of the Andes
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discover a hole that
goes right through Earth.
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One of the scientists
accidentally falls
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into the hole,
and the high speed of his fall
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and the high heat
transform him into a zombie.
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On the other side of Earth,
he is catapulted into orbit,
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where he attacks spacecraft.
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An excellent example for bad
science in science fiction,
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but I think I could sell it
to Michael Bay or other members
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of the Military-Entertainment
Complex.
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My mother Hermi
was always supportive
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of my strange interests,
and my Dad always said,
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"Well, Hermi,
that's what you get
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when you raise an open mind."
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I'm still not sure it
was meant as a compliment.
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♪
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♪
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I'm not into
sweat suits anymore,
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but damn, I still
like my baseball caps,
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and setting stuff on fire.
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I was eager to impress,
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but also jealous
about the popular kids.
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I was forced into being a rebel.
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My rebellion manifested itself
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in a perverted interest
in cryptozoology,
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conspiracy books,
and all the bullshit
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that Erich von Däniken ever spat
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into the face of humanity.
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And when I was 11
I became an atheist.
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I guess because
I started masturbating.
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But over the next years
I got more sophisticated.
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I devoured cyberpunk novels
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and loved
to watch Robocop and...
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Edison Carter vom Sender 23,
M-M-M-Max Headroom.
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I goofed around
with a friend's Commodore 64,
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but getting my first
IBM computer was a blast.
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I learned English by playing
Sierra Online adventure games,
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and I was fascinated
with GW-BASIC.
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And when I was 13, I joined
the FidoNet data network.
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Electronic data communication
was a wonderful way
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to finally get in contact
with strange folks
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from all over the planet.
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And I learned the proper
term for what I was--
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a nerd!
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I felt at home in a world
built by outsiders,
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harvesting mailing lists
and text file archives,
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enjoying ANSI art.
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I even created my own.
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Not as elaborate,
but, ah, what the heck.
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And of course I joined
endless debates about modems
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and Akira
and tokamak reactors...
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and smut.
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Oh yes, my nerd world
was full of white dudes.
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I didn't have a girlfriend--
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guess why--
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and I was definitely too scared
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to do anything
to change that,
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but the reality of your body
hits you hard, bro,
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especially when it
takes a three-hour-long
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long distance call
to fucking Germany
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to download
your first low-res porn.
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I couldn't really wait
until the image
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was fully displayed.
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I climaxed after
the first couple
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of grey pixels were shown.
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It was quite magic.
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I still have a fetish
for grey pixels.
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♪
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I don't want to be
too Lacanian about it, but...
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A lot of desire
got externalized.
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For example, I was part
of a small gang,
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and we played many pen and paper
role-playing games.
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I really liked my character.
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I mean, look at
my frickin' character sheet!
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♪
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I even did double entry
bookkeeping for my gold coins.
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Hindsight is always 20/20,
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especially if you play games
that require 20-sided dice.
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You can do
what you like.
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It's only bad when you don't
destroy the evidence.
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♪
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♪
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The promise and dangers
of technology
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really interested me.
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When I was 17, my wish to do
something meaningful grew.
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If I couldn't get a date,
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at least I could
change the planet.
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I really wanted
to start "monochrom,"
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an online message board,
but also magazine,
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about the stuff
that interested me:
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cyber-topics, politics,
and fringe culture,
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and I found friends
and comrades
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who joined to make it happen.
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And we found victims
for articles and interviews.
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Folks like HR Giger,
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Kathy Acker,
who were really great,
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and Blixa Bargeld,
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who turned out
to be major butthurt.
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Techno-utopianism, my ass!
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I became a leftist.
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You couldn't leave the future
to stupid libertarians.
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Cyberpunk made me a punk.
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Hasta la victoria siempre!
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Never forget!
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And let anthropomorphized kiwis
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puke evil provitamins
on Jean-Luc Picard!
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Monochrom was born,
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and it never died.
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Monochrom's credo
was and still is
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to find the perfect
Weapon of Mass Distribution
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to spread an idea.
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What started as a fanzine
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experienced
a Cambrian Explosion,
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and we started working
in many different media.
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Robots, games,
interventions, musicals...
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And so I turned
from being some nerd
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into some artist.
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I'm 40 years old now,
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and monochrom, my baby,
is 22 years old.
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Only imagine, it can now
legally drink in the U.S.
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So, looking back
at my life's journey,
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it occurs to me, why not
going on a real journey,
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a journey from the west coast
to the east coast of the U.S.?
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To visit nerdy places
and nerdy people
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that inspired and shaped me,
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but also having
interesting conversations
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with other nerds about
nerd culture in general.
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So please, join me on
my little three-week-long
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transcontinental tour de force.
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♪
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Traceroute is a road trip,
a pilgrimage,
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an inquiry, a palimpsest
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to chase and question the ghosts
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of nerdoms past,
present, and future.
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I teamed up
with two good friends:
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Jenny Marx from Germany
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and Eddie Codel from California.
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Eddie and Jenny at Tanagra.
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Johannes, his arms wide.
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We get a white rental van
and stockpile on good spirit.
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♪
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San Francisco is known
for free love and free markets,
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a fantastic realm
of endless opportunity
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and homelessness.
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The cultural center
of what Barbrook and Cameron
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called
the Californian Ideology,
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a town saturated
in playful dissent
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and positive corporate thinking.
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My childhood memories of SFO
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are the nightmarish game
Manhunter 2,
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the adorable serial killer film
Time After Time,
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and certainly Star Trek IV,
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the one about breaking
and entering
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a nuclear vessel in Alameda
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and kidnapping two whales.
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My friend V. Vale
lived in North Beach
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for a long, long time.
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He is a famed
publisher and documentarian.
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I remember vividly
when I first laid eyes
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upon his Industrial
Culture Handbook.
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Vale touched
my 15-year-old brain.
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It was a consensual bad touch.
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City Lights Bookstore,
where I once worked.
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- Oh, you did?
- Oh, yeah!
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- Yeah?
- Yeah, they funded
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- my first publication!
- Really?
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- Yes.
- What was that?
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- Search and Destroy.
- Search and Destroy!
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Ferlinghetti
and Allen Ginsberg.
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What do you think have
all subcultures in common?
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Because you have been witnessing
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many births and deaths
of subcultures.
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I think all countercultures,
subcultures,
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whatever you wanna call them,
movements such as this,
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they've always
been started by nerds.
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I mean, you have to have
a lot of solitude,
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you have to be used
to being alone,
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you have to be used
to being against the grain,
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you have to be used
to society not approving
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of the way you choose
to live your independent life,
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because there is no creativity
in the absence of revolt
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and the absence of revolution
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and the absence of rebellion.
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People just don't realize that
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when they're reading
the history books.
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Just a very few people
are responsible
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for any new emerging
counterculture,
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and to me, a culture
has to be composed
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of everybody participating
and creating,
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not just consuming.
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And because of this,
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the future will
always be created
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by nerds in subcultures.
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Well, well!
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Are nerds the driving
force of dissent?
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Or just a bunch
of hyper-consumers?
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Hmm, leaves me
with an excellent case
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of cognitive dissonance.
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Maybe a stroll
around City Hall
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helps to clear my mind.
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♪
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♪
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Invasion of the Body Snatchers
from 1978.
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The post-Watergate era
found America depressed,
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and Philip Kaufman told
a haunting sci-fi tale
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about how the Hippie
generation grew up,
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got absorbed and co-opted,
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and led the U.S. into
the dark ages of Reaganomics.
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Few films left me more hopeless,
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yet more determined.
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So, whenever you check
your Facebook status
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or plan your week-long
escape to Burning Man,
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please remember
that the cultures
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and countercultures
of Silicon Valley
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were made possible
only due to exploitation
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of the immigrant poor
plus defense funding
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and subsidies for corporations.
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Adam Flynn is
very aware of this.
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He grew up in the small town
of Yuma, Arizona,
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the real-life equivalent
of Night Vale.
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Now he lives in the Bay Area
as a philosopher for hire.
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Good, 'cause there
are no apps for that.
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Cyberpunk, for me, like punk,
is a very wide thing.
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I mean, who were the cyberpunks?
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So, like, 13-year-old boys
like me,
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it's a very
privileged subculture,
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because it's usually people
who had access to technology.
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Women and minorities
and queer people
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have always been
in geek culture,
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but they've been made invisible.
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Now suddenly geek culture
is mainstream,
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like the only reliable things
keeping Hollywood afloat
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are superhero action movies
from comic books.
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All of these things are
trying to be a big tent,
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but the people that used
to be part of the small tent
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feel like, "Oh, someone's
stolen my country."
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Geography creates mindsets.
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- It's, like, undebatable...
- Sure!
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- ...I think, yeah?
- Yeah!
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You feel super alienated,
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00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:42,014
but you find somewhere
out there something
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that is--that you
can connect with
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and that you have this sense
of "One of these days,
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I'm gonna shake the dust
from my heels
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and go to the big city
and find my people."
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You know, so much
of video games,
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so much of comic books,
are based on this sense of
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a kind of, you know,
wish fulfillment
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and power fantasies
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or the sense of, you know,
in playing something very hard
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or going through and mastering
the secret knowledge,
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this shared hardship
and discipline
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that you have gone through
and mastered.
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Absolutely, man, I see
that camaraderie, let's say,
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the camaraderie of nerdom,
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especially potent
in role-playing campaigns
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when you, like,
sit around a table
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for hours and hours and hours
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and master and fight
monsters or whatever,
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and you do it together.
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I had my first date,
the first date of my life,
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was in a role-playing game.
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00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:35,693
Wait, like, your character
was having a date?
376
00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:38,237
Yes, the character
was having a date,
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00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:41,115
but that was for me
like my first date!
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It was so--he's laughing, yes,
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00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,743
and you should!
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I truly believe
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that two things
are true about humanity:
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We are a sexual species,
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and we are a tool-using species.
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The rest is pure speculation.
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So we make our way to
the hackerspace Noisebridge,
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00:21:00,885 --> 00:21:03,637
known for tinkering
and social drama.
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00:21:03,637 --> 00:21:07,141
That's where we meet
an old activist friend of mine.
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Hi, my name is Maggie Mayhem!
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I'm a lifelong nerd,
and I'm a sex worker.
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00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:15,524
When I think about how
I define myself as a nerd,
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I think back to a lot
of really important moments
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in childhood.
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For one thing, I never
really had a thing for dolls.
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00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:23,657
I did have a thing
for batteries,
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00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,618
and I loved being able
to design my own types
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00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:27,453
of electric circuitry
around my room.
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00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:29,955
I had lights, I had bells,
I had booby traps,
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I had everything
I could think of.
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I went from nine-volt batteries
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00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:35,252
and eventually graduated
up to bigger ones.
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00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:36,795
I think even,
at my shining glory,
402
00:21:36,795 --> 00:21:38,339
a car battery
that I was using
403
00:21:38,339 --> 00:21:40,090
to power all kinds of things.
404
00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:42,760
I had a console that
let me program in BASIC,
405
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,553
and it reminded me of
the Catholic teachings
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00:21:44,553 --> 00:21:47,348
that I was getting at school,
my small parochial school,
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00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:49,975
about how on the first day
God created light
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00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:52,228
and then He programmed
the rest of the universe.
409
00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,438
And that's how I felt
with my whole sandbox
410
00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:56,148
where I could just do anything.
411
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I went down to the library
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and I learned how
to use the internet,
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and one of my early lessons
was not to tell anybody
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00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,405
that I was a nine-year-old girl.
415
00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:06,158
Just no one will believe you,
and if they do,
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00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:08,536
they don't have anything
good to say to you.
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00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:10,663
So I pretended
I was a teenage boy,
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00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:13,332
and that worked
for a really long time.
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00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,376
It worked until
I was a teenager.
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00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:16,835
As soon as I hit puberty,
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00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:18,295
I guess either through implied
422
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:20,881
or maybe even sometimes
explicit statements,
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00:22:20,881 --> 00:22:23,300
I kinda thought being a woman
meant giving that all up.
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00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:24,760
And sometimes,
now that I'm older,
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00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,387
that's really frustrating,
426
00:22:26,387 --> 00:22:28,514
because I still love technology,
and I'm still a nerd,
427
00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:31,100
and I still have all kinds
of great equipment around,
428
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:34,395
and I'll go to do something
or I'll have an idea,
429
00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:37,314
and I sit down at my computer
430
00:22:37,314 --> 00:22:39,316
and it's like it's
a language that I forgot.
431
00:22:39,316 --> 00:22:41,235
And I can't make
the words come to my lips.
432
00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:45,239
I can't quite program the way
I used to remember, you know?
433
00:22:45,239 --> 00:22:47,616
I mean, on the internet,
looking at source code
434
00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:50,369
of HTML on a website
was like an upskirt view.
435
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:51,620
It was exciting,
it was a chance
436
00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,289
to figure it out
just by watching
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00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:55,708
and piecing it together,
and I think that sex workers
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00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,960
have always had
a relationship to technology.
439
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,587
Either sex has been
a driving force
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00:22:59,587 --> 00:23:01,297
in how technology
has played out
441
00:23:01,297 --> 00:23:04,633
in regards to whether or not
Beta or VHS was gonna win
442
00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:06,302
on how they carried porn,
443
00:23:06,302 --> 00:23:08,596
or even the fact that
the Consumer Electronics Show
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00:23:08,596 --> 00:23:10,598
in Las Vegas is
one of the number one
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00:23:10,598 --> 00:23:12,391
sex work destinations.
446
00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:16,145
I remember the first time
I ever traded sex for software.
447
00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:18,355
It was about 2005,
448
00:23:18,355 --> 00:23:20,274
and I was a student
in Santa Cruz.
449
00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:22,151
I remember meeting
so many software engineers
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00:23:22,151 --> 00:23:25,195
because we could share
all kinds of conversations,
451
00:23:25,195 --> 00:23:27,698
we could have a really
good time together.
452
00:23:27,698 --> 00:23:29,283
We had so much in common,
453
00:23:29,283 --> 00:23:32,620
and we could work out
barter arrangements.
454
00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,288
I think sex workers
have been carrying
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00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:36,874
all kinds of innovation
and maybe help spurring it.
456
00:23:36,874 --> 00:23:38,250
Maybe there's always
been a relationship
457
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,169
between hackers and hookers.
458
00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:41,795
At the same time
sometimes now it feels like
459
00:23:41,795 --> 00:23:43,589
it's a little bit more hostile.
460
00:23:43,589 --> 00:23:47,134
You know, we've been alongside
technology the whole time,
461
00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:49,762
and yet we're being written
out of the Terms of Service.
462
00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:51,764
And sometimes I wonder
if there's ever gonna be
463
00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:53,515
the people come out to say
that they were johns,
464
00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,267
that they were clients,
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00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:58,062
that they, too, are allies
to sex workers,
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00:23:58,062 --> 00:23:59,688
that they know that
we're human beings,
467
00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:01,690
that we deserve rights
and that there is a difference
468
00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:04,485
between trafficking
and consensual sex.
469
00:24:04,485 --> 00:24:06,945
But I can come out,
and I'm hoping that the nerds
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00:24:06,945 --> 00:24:08,280
who like to have
a good time with me
471
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,823
might come out, too.
472
00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:11,367
Bravo!
473
00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:12,951
And as a little thank you,
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00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:15,120
we present Maggie with a mug
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00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,997
that Jenny and I created.
476
00:24:16,997 --> 00:24:19,958
The Venus of Strapondorf.
477
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:21,543
Always remember...
478
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:29,176
Josh Ellingson is a wonderful
illustrator and designer.
479
00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:34,181
When I first saw
his illustration of Carl Sagan,
480
00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:35,974
I was hooked to his work.
481
00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:40,270
I asked Josh to bring
some of his designs.
482
00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:42,272
That's Dirty Martini,
a Burlesque performer
483
00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:44,400
from New York City,
and she's standing there
484
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,653
in front of the Mercury rocket
that's taking off.
485
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:53,367
And that piece was featured
in outer space on the ISS.
486
00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:55,661
Richard Garriott, one of
those internet millionaires
487
00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:58,664
or video game millionaires,
actually, took it up
488
00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:02,459
as part of an art show
that he put together.
489
00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:04,378
There were eight
other artists in the show,
490
00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:07,339
and it was just kind
of a crazy privilege
491
00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:10,509
to be featured
on the Space Station.
492
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:13,554
The space tourist
takes your art to space.
493
00:25:13,554 --> 00:25:15,305
Garriott is
an interesting character
494
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:18,350
because he's one of the many,
many nerds nowadays
495
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,228
who kinda made it--
he's like a billionaire.
496
00:25:21,228 --> 00:25:24,189
- Oh, such a nerd.
- Growing up as a nerd
497
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:26,233
in Flint, Michigan,
was probably not easy.
498
00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:28,777
Yeah, and I definitely
felt different, for sure.
499
00:25:28,777 --> 00:25:30,904
Like, growing up,
like, I was always
500
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:32,573
into something really hardcore,
501
00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:34,616
and some of my friends
would be into it for a while.
502
00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,952
You know, I didn't
get into, like, sports
503
00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:39,121
or popular music, really.
504
00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:42,666
So I guess it was--
I felt weird and different,
505
00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:45,085
but I didn't know that it--
I don't know,
506
00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:48,297
I guess I kinda picked on nerds
or thought I was better
507
00:25:48,297 --> 00:25:50,966
than the nerdy people
or whatever, but--
508
00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:54,553
So you were like--kinda
almost like a social cannibal
509
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,221
or something
because you were a nerd,
510
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:57,765
but you were picking on nerds?
511
00:25:57,765 --> 00:25:59,516
Yeah, I didn't know
what the hell I was--
512
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:01,977
what was going on,
and I would wear--
513
00:26:01,977 --> 00:26:03,562
I would try to be cool,
like, I don't know.
514
00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:04,938
Like I said,
I thought I was cool.
515
00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:06,565
So when did you
come out as a nerd?
516
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:09,902
I don't know, 10 years ago
or maybe 12 years ago
517
00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:13,280
or something, I'm like,
"Yeah, I'm just a nerd."
518
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,908
Like I'm just--yeah.
519
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,243
- I think we should get drunk.
- Yeah, let's do it, man.
520
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:20,162
Okay.
521
00:26:20,162 --> 00:26:23,207
And I sit at the bar
and put bread in his jar,
522
00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:26,543
and say, "Man,
what are you doing here?"
523
00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:29,463
The term "nerd" got popularized
524
00:26:29,463 --> 00:26:32,341
by sitcoms around
the time I was born.
525
00:26:32,341 --> 00:26:34,510
The etymology
is a bit unclear.
526
00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:38,347
Some say it got invented
by my old hero Dr. Seuss,
527
00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:40,808
some refer to various
slang origins,
528
00:26:40,808 --> 00:26:42,267
and even Philip K. Dick
529
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,686
claimed to have
coined the spelling.
530
00:26:44,686 --> 00:26:46,104
Doesn't really matter.
531
00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:47,815
What matters
is how this new archetype
532
00:26:47,815 --> 00:26:50,776
is embedded in the guts
of neoliberalism.
533
00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:55,364
Dare I postulate that
the Revenge Of The Nerds
534
00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:58,826
is cognitive capitalism itself.
535
00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:00,786
We walk down
Hoff Street, and...
536
00:27:00,786 --> 00:27:02,454
- Hey!
- Oh, hello!
537
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:04,456
- Abie, good to see you!
- Johannes, good to see you!
538
00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,083
- So you're a therapist.
- I am.
539
00:27:06,083 --> 00:27:08,418
I think, first of all,
it's important to think
540
00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:11,213
about the many different types
of nerds that there are.
541
00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:13,090
I think it's not
just technology.
542
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:16,176
Anybody who is
really into something,
543
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,887
anybody that has a focus
and an intensity
544
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,598
about any particular
topic is a nerd.
545
00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:23,350
Our culture doesn't
necessarily value
546
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:25,686
all of these interests, right,
so you come into school,
547
00:27:25,686 --> 00:27:27,354
and you found
this really cool thing,
548
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:28,772
and you wanna show everyone,
and they think,
549
00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:30,566
"Ah, that's stupid,
why are you into that?"
550
00:27:30,566 --> 00:27:33,402
That's the beginning
of that kind of trauma, right?
551
00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:34,862
And it can also go
the other way around
552
00:27:34,862 --> 00:27:36,697
where you start off
with the idea
553
00:27:36,697 --> 00:27:38,615
of you're just
a little bit different,
554
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:42,077
like many of us were,
and you're ostracized,
555
00:27:42,077 --> 00:27:44,955
and the way that you
deal with that trauma
556
00:27:44,955 --> 00:27:46,790
is by finding something,
557
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:49,334
a passion that you pour
yourself into like that.
558
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:54,214
And so the nerdery can be--
it's a response to the trauma
559
00:27:54,214 --> 00:27:55,924
and a way of dealing
with the trauma
560
00:27:55,924 --> 00:28:00,220
of being an outsider,
so it kind of goes both ways.
561
00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:01,847
You know, if you're just
playing guitar chords,
562
00:28:01,847 --> 00:28:04,099
that's one thing,
but then you start to be a--
563
00:28:04,099 --> 00:28:06,059
you become a rock star,
that's a different thing.
564
00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:07,978
If you're coding in your room,
that's one thing,
565
00:28:07,978 --> 00:28:09,146
but then you get hired
by Google,
566
00:28:09,146 --> 00:28:10,522
that's another thing, right?
567
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,942
So I think when
that crossover happens
568
00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:17,613
and the sense
of self in the world
569
00:28:17,613 --> 00:28:19,615
doesn't catch up with it--
570
00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:21,617
so it's almost a kind
of social dysmorphia
571
00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:25,078
where you still feel like
you are completely powerless,
572
00:28:25,078 --> 00:28:27,581
but you don't realize
that you have suddenly
573
00:28:27,581 --> 00:28:31,543
become very powerful,
and it's easy not to realize
574
00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:34,922
the impact of your actions on,
you know, the people around you,
575
00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:37,090
the planet around you, all that.
576
00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:38,884
Now sleepy time.
577
00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:41,720
♪
578
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,097
Bye-bye, San Francisco.
579
00:28:44,097 --> 00:28:45,933
A drive over the Bay Bridge
580
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:48,560
offers a good view
of the giant cranes
581
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,896
at the Port of Oakland,
582
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:53,273
and that triggers
two of my passions:
583
00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:57,402
intergalactic oppression
and logistics.
584
00:28:57,402 --> 00:28:59,947
Many fans think
that those cranes
585
00:28:59,947 --> 00:29:03,492
inspired the Imperial Walkers
in Star Wars.
586
00:29:03,492 --> 00:29:05,035
Well, nope.
587
00:29:05,035 --> 00:29:08,413
George Lucas himself
dismissed that claim.
588
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:10,082
Walker designs
were actually inspired
589
00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:12,668
by garbage trucks,
590
00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:15,796
but what always stuns me
is a different fact.
591
00:29:15,796 --> 00:29:19,007
One of the greatest
inventions of the 20th century
592
00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:22,135
is the shipping container.
593
00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:26,348
In 1955 a guy called McLean
594
00:29:26,348 --> 00:29:28,976
realized it would be
much simpler and quicker
595
00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:31,061
to have one
standardized container
596
00:29:31,061 --> 00:29:32,813
that could be lifted
from a vehicle
597
00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:35,315
directly onto a ship
or a train
598
00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:38,318
without first having
to unload its contents.
599
00:29:38,318 --> 00:29:41,405
That fundamentally
changed the world.
600
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:46,410
Nine billion tons of cargo
across our seas each year
601
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:48,245
in an evenly distributed system
602
00:29:48,245 --> 00:29:52,499
that would be a ton
for each person on the planet.
603
00:29:52,499 --> 00:29:55,836
So even though Lucas
was not inspired by it,
604
00:29:55,836 --> 00:29:58,213
the container-shipping network
605
00:29:58,213 --> 00:30:02,592
is the true backbone
of the Global Empire.
606
00:30:02,592 --> 00:30:05,637
Sending stuff efficiently
from one point to another
607
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:08,098
is a fascinating subject.
608
00:30:08,098 --> 00:30:10,892
One of the big players is FedEx.
609
00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:15,439
And FedEx has one of
the best logos ever created.
610
00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:17,899
You ever realized
that there is an arrow
611
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:19,359
in the Ex?
612
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:20,777
No?
613
00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:22,863
Look there, there it is!
614
00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:25,157
Lindon Leader created
this masterpiece
615
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:28,201
of negative space in 1994.
616
00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:31,663
Leader learned from
an unsung hero himself.
617
00:30:31,663 --> 00:30:35,625
His first job was
working for Saul Bass,
618
00:30:35,625 --> 00:30:39,046
the guy who created
the AT&T logo,
619
00:30:39,046 --> 00:30:43,341
made posters and title
sequences for Hitchcock,
620
00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:45,135
and directed a movie
621
00:30:45,135 --> 00:30:50,432
about intelligent ants
who talk math--Phase IV,
622
00:30:50,432 --> 00:30:53,769
the first film to depict
a geometric crop circle,
623
00:30:53,769 --> 00:30:55,896
and it was an influence
on the pranksters
624
00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:58,315
who started this phenomenon.
625
00:30:58,315 --> 00:31:00,817
Time to get some
hard drives for backup.
626
00:31:00,817 --> 00:31:04,154
You know, Jesus saves...
627
00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:07,616
Fry's Electronics is a chain
of big-box one-stop stores.
628
00:31:07,616 --> 00:31:10,827
They sell everything
tech-nerd-relevant.
629
00:31:10,827 --> 00:31:13,914
They even sold porn
when that was still lucrative.
630
00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:19,961
♪
631
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:23,423
♪
632
00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:26,468
We have our loot,
633
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:28,011
but we are also late.
634
00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:30,847
We have to make it
to Santa Cruz before sunset.
635
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:32,557
♪
636
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:35,727
She is a media theorist,
artist, and technology writer.
637
00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:37,312
But she worked in many odd jobs,
638
00:31:37,312 --> 00:31:38,730
one of them was
recording engineer
639
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:40,524
for Jimi Hendrix.
640
00:31:40,524 --> 00:31:42,192
Sandy is considered the founder
641
00:31:42,192 --> 00:31:46,446
of the academic discipline
of transgender studies.
642
00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:48,698
...a real lost boy...
643
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,286
We have to work on
that a little bit.
644
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:55,747
The most fascinating thing
about what happened
645
00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:58,875
is everything Bill Gibson
talked about came true,
646
00:31:58,875 --> 00:32:00,836
plus the things
that he only thought about
647
00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:03,130
that he didn't really
think would happen.
648
00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:06,591
And the worst aspects of them
649
00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:08,718
turned out to be
kind of the average.
650
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:12,639
You know, that's
what everything is now.
651
00:32:12,639 --> 00:32:15,934
And as happens
with every movement
652
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:19,938
or period or whatever,
everybody grew up--
653
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:21,606
you know, we had
a fantastic time,
654
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:24,317
it was a tremendously
powerful time.
655
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:26,236
A lot of wonderful
things happened,
656
00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:28,738
people developed,
and finished,
657
00:32:28,738 --> 00:32:32,784
and moved on with really
wonderful technological things
658
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:36,163
and societal things,
and then it all went to shit.
659
00:32:36,163 --> 00:32:39,624
It got ground up in
the great capitalist grinder,
660
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:42,419
and now we have post--
lost boys.
661
00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:45,589
- We have post-post.
- We have post-post lost boys.
662
00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:47,048
And it's all okay,
663
00:32:47,048 --> 00:32:48,884
because we're all
still doing it.
664
00:32:48,884 --> 00:32:52,387
I mean, the street found
its uses for technology,
665
00:32:52,387 --> 00:32:55,265
and it found its uses
for the social furnishings
666
00:32:55,265 --> 00:32:57,559
that those technologies
produced.
667
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:03,481
♪
668
00:33:03,481 --> 00:33:05,775
He took that interest
and creative energy
669
00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:07,944
of hippiedom and dropping LSD
670
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:11,198
and channeled it
into what is Apple now,
671
00:33:11,198 --> 00:33:14,951
and you're just like, nobody
should ever take LSD anymore!
672
00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:18,788
LSD is a tool
that can do anything.
673
00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:21,666
If you are Steve Jobs,
it will make you Super Steve.
674
00:33:21,666 --> 00:33:23,710
It would make you
Super Johannes.
675
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,546
Super Johannes, like running
a death camp or something.
676
00:33:29,257 --> 00:33:33,511
Now, broiled scallops
in a tourist trap.
677
00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:36,139
I always loved
the great dichotomies of life:
678
00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:37,766
PLAYMOBIL and LEGO,
679
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:40,518
dinosaurs and things
that dinosaurs eat,
680
00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:43,104
trees with leaves
and pine trees,
681
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:46,524
cats and mice
like Tom and Jerry.
682
00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:49,569
But as someone who grew up
in Central Europe,
683
00:33:49,569 --> 00:33:53,531
I never understood how a mouse
can live inside a wall.
684
00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:55,075
Walls are
made of bricks!
685
00:33:55,075 --> 00:33:56,534
Walls are not hollow.
686
00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:58,245
Way later I came to understand
687
00:33:58,245 --> 00:34:00,789
that U.S. American houses
are made of wood,
688
00:34:00,789 --> 00:34:03,124
and the walls are really hollow.
689
00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,793
♪
690
00:34:04,793 --> 00:34:07,045
Sandy's car has so many
nice bumper stickers,
691
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:11,132
so we decide that
our van needs one, too.
692
00:34:11,132 --> 00:34:15,303
Let's live dangerous and break
our rental car contract.
693
00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:17,347
♪
694
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,599
I realize that
I lost my passport.
695
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,434
Shock!
696
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:23,520
I track it down at
the scallops-serving
697
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,355
tourist trap.
698
00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:29,192
- Yeah!
- Perfect!
699
00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:30,610
Makes me happy.
700
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:32,445
The Peace of Westphalia
701
00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:35,156
gave us the concept
of the nation state,
702
00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:38,118
and we all have to play
by its strange rules.
703
00:34:38,118 --> 00:34:41,204
♪
704
00:34:41,204 --> 00:34:43,373
Carl Sagan's take on humanity,
705
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:46,251
exploration, and pathos
is still engrained
706
00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:47,836
in my thinking and doing,
707
00:34:47,836 --> 00:34:49,713
and when I find out
that our route
708
00:34:49,713 --> 00:34:51,715
takes us by the spot
where he shot
709
00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:54,884
the famous opening scene
of Cosmos,
710
00:34:54,884 --> 00:34:57,095
I can't help
but knock on some doors...
711
00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:59,598
- I have information!
- Oh, yeah?
712
00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:03,643
...hoping to get access to that
piece of magic grazing land.
713
00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:06,187
And really,
we get an interview!
714
00:35:06,187 --> 00:35:08,523
Well, my dead grandfather
bought this property
715
00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,693
around 1910,
and he ended up with it
716
00:35:11,693 --> 00:35:13,278
mainly because he couldn't
afford property
717
00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:14,779
in the Salinas Valley
718
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:17,115
where it was all
the good planting land.
719
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,159
So he came out here
and had a few cows,
720
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,370
and then through the years,
people felt it was much nicer
721
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:24,080
to live by the ocean
and the views,
722
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,291
and so it became more
and more valuable,
723
00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:28,126
which then attracted
more people
724
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,295
and, you know,
eventually Cosmos
725
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,630
and many other filming
companies showed up here,
726
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,257
and actually wanted
to take advantage
727
00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,634
of the views that
we have here on the flats,
728
00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:39,137
because it's one of the only
flat pieces here on the coast.
729
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,556
So Cosmos showed up
in the last '70s,
730
00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:42,849
and I didn't really know
731
00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:44,434
exactly what
they were going to do,
732
00:35:44,434 --> 00:35:45,852
and they stuck
this guy out there
733
00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,187
who I didn't know
a whole lot about,
734
00:35:47,187 --> 00:35:49,272
and he had his little deb.
735
00:35:49,272 --> 00:35:51,858
Since then, they've come back
and filmed the sequel to it
736
00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:54,736
and, you know,
that's where we are today.
737
00:35:54,736 --> 00:35:57,364
He was standing here
and holding a dandelion,
738
00:35:57,364 --> 00:35:58,948
and the dandelion would turn
739
00:35:58,948 --> 00:36:01,326
into the Spaceship
of Imagination--
740
00:36:01,326 --> 00:36:02,577
Yeah, and he picked
the dandelion
741
00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:04,120
- over there, I think...
- Ah, wonderful!
742
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,538
...'Cause that turns
into a bunch of field
743
00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:08,041
of dandelions and poppies, so...
744
00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:27,685
♪
745
00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:32,023
Pee and literature break
at the Henry Miller Library.
746
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:38,071
♪
747
00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:40,824
I like driving,
but realizing that we have
748
00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:45,453
a journey of 7,000 miles
before us makes me shiver.
749
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:48,498
It reminds me of
the strange societal consensus
750
00:36:48,498 --> 00:36:51,543
of steering tons of machinery
at high speeds
751
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:54,337
to get milk or drop someone off,
752
00:36:54,337 --> 00:36:56,965
and we don't consider
this strange!
753
00:36:56,965 --> 00:37:00,677
We just accept it from
an economical perspective,
754
00:37:00,677 --> 00:37:03,805
although we know
how deadly cars are.
755
00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:06,224
The age of self-driving cars
is dawning,
756
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,309
and we will look back
at this behavior
757
00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:10,854
and shake our heads.
758
00:37:10,854 --> 00:37:13,148
Henry Ford's decision
to pay his workers
759
00:37:13,148 --> 00:37:17,652
$5-a-day-wages was
not one of welfare.
760
00:37:17,652 --> 00:37:21,448
It was that he realized
that he should pay his workers
761
00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:23,992
sufficiently large sums
so they could afford
762
00:37:23,992 --> 00:37:26,494
the products they were making.
763
00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:29,664
He wanted to expand his market.
764
00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:33,084
For Google, self-driving cars
will be entertainment
765
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:34,794
and communication hubs.
766
00:37:34,794 --> 00:37:37,213
I sit in my car
while it drives me around,
767
00:37:37,213 --> 00:37:38,506
and what do I do?
768
00:37:38,506 --> 00:37:40,925
I consume media
and make calls.
769
00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:43,428
I literally become
a captive audience
770
00:37:43,428 --> 00:37:47,640
for advertisers and services
that want my money.
771
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,434
Whoever controls that aspect
772
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:52,228
will have many
happy shareholders.
773
00:37:52,228 --> 00:38:01,821
♪
774
00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:04,741
L.A. feels like the aftermath
775
00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:08,036
of a giant WikiLeaks release.
776
00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:10,788
The truth is out,
in black and white,
777
00:38:10,788 --> 00:38:14,042
everyone knows it,
it's blatantly clear
778
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,628
that everything
is wrong and bad
779
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,547
and can't get any worse,
780
00:38:19,547 --> 00:38:22,300
but nobody really cares.
781
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,220
I appreciate this attitude.
782
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:29,599
You can't make fun of L.A.,
it's beyond parody.
783
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,351
It's like Henry Kissinger
784
00:38:31,351 --> 00:38:33,353
receiving
the Nobel Peace Prize.
785
00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:36,314
♪
786
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:40,777
We are on our way to
the botanical gardens of UCLA.
787
00:38:40,777 --> 00:38:43,738
Whenever I go
to a botanical garden,
788
00:38:43,738 --> 00:38:46,699
I think of killing people
with a spade
789
00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:48,660
and American Airlines.
790
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,537
And that's because
of Douglas Trumbull's
791
00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:56,209
1972 eco-sci-fi film
Silent Running.
792
00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:59,003
A couple of space freighters
are carrying domes
793
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,548
with the last
remaining ecosystems,
794
00:39:01,548 --> 00:39:05,176
and Bruce Dern is one
of the caretaking astronauts.
795
00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:08,846
When the crew gets the command
to destroy all domes,
796
00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:11,349
Dern freaks out,
kills his colleagues,
797
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:15,019
and flees with all the bunnies
and cactuses and stuff.
798
00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:17,564
The political message
is a bit woo woo,
799
00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,190
but the space freighters
800
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:22,527
featured big
American Airlines logos,
801
00:39:22,527 --> 00:39:24,237
and I still remember it.
802
00:39:24,237 --> 00:39:28,616
Best product placement
buck ever spent.
803
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:31,995
Christina Agapakis
is a synthetic biologist
804
00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:34,289
who does exciting projects.
805
00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:35,957
I guess I always
thought of myself
806
00:39:35,957 --> 00:39:38,209
sort of a cross between
a ballerina and a scientist
807
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:40,670
when I was five,
and I realized at that point
808
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,631
that I wasn't going to be
a ballerina pretty early on.
809
00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:46,926
As a young nerd she liked
the soothing fact
810
00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:50,096
that there was always
an answer in science.
811
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:52,974
Turned out to be a bit
of a misunderstanding.
812
00:39:52,974 --> 00:39:55,101
So you're also
doing art projects,
813
00:39:55,101 --> 00:39:56,603
and one project
is about cheese.
814
00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:58,021
Could you tell us about that?
815
00:39:58,021 --> 00:40:00,607
We realized that the
chemistry of armpits
816
00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:03,818
and sweat and body odors
and foot odor
817
00:40:03,818 --> 00:40:07,155
is very, very similar to
the chemistry of cheese.
818
00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:11,784
Um, and so a lot of the
smells and flavors of cheeses
819
00:40:11,784 --> 00:40:13,828
are really similar to
the smells and flavors
820
00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:16,080
of the human body,
it turns out.
821
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,373
So, you know, you can
have Limburger cheese
822
00:40:17,373 --> 00:40:18,750
that smells like feet,
823
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,210
Swiss cheese can have
a kind of sweaty smell,
824
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:22,712
and that's 'cause the bacteria
825
00:40:22,712 --> 00:40:24,589
are making the same
kinds of molecules,
826
00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:27,258
and the bacteria themselves
are really closely related.
827
00:40:27,258 --> 00:40:30,011
So the project was to kind of,
again, decontextualize,
828
00:40:30,011 --> 00:40:33,473
reframe our kind of
emotional understanding
829
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,017
and kind of disgust at microbes
830
00:40:36,017 --> 00:40:38,186
and the kind of
ickiness of them.
831
00:40:38,186 --> 00:40:40,063
We created our own cheeses
832
00:40:40,063 --> 00:40:43,900
using bacteria from the
human body, including yours.
833
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:46,277
You were one of our
very kind donors.
834
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:48,738
I think I had, like, armpits,
835
00:40:48,738 --> 00:40:50,698
and I think it
was also crotch.
836
00:40:50,698 --> 00:40:53,993
I think you did provide us a
crotch sample but I'm not sure--
837
00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:57,205
But you don't know
what--what specific...
838
00:40:57,205 --> 00:40:58,873
I can't remember now.
839
00:40:58,873 --> 00:41:00,333
But it failed.
840
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,127
It--yeah, I didn't
do a very good job
841
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:06,297
sort of aging the cheese,
so that was one thing
842
00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:08,549
I really learned
about--about microbes.
843
00:41:08,549 --> 00:41:11,052
There's a real craft
element to cheesemaking
844
00:41:11,052 --> 00:41:13,429
and you have to really
nurture the bacteria
845
00:41:13,429 --> 00:41:15,014
to grow the right way.
846
00:41:15,014 --> 00:41:16,516
So your cheese,
in particular,
847
00:41:16,516 --> 00:41:17,975
I had to go to a conference,
848
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:19,519
so I was like, "Okay,
I'll set up the cheese.
849
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,312
I'll put it to kind
of age in the cabinet
850
00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:23,606
that I had been using,
um, and I'll come back
851
00:41:23,606 --> 00:41:25,358
from the conference,
it'll be ready."
852
00:41:25,358 --> 00:41:29,112
And then I come back home,
and the house smells terrible
853
00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:32,198
like it had just
gone very, very bad.
854
00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:34,033
I fucked up your house.
855
00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:36,953
Anyway, it ended up okay,
but I opened the cabinet,
856
00:41:36,953 --> 00:41:39,706
and the cheese was moving
857
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:43,126
because it had little
maggots had laid their--
858
00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:46,254
like, flies had laid their
eggs inside the cheese.
859
00:41:46,254 --> 00:41:48,339
It was very, very bad.
860
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:51,175
So your cheese was a
very striking example
861
00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:53,302
of kind of the
visceral disgust
862
00:41:53,302 --> 00:41:56,222
that you can experience
with biological organisms
863
00:41:56,222 --> 00:42:00,476
out of context
and the kind of signal
864
00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:03,813
of how you really have to
care for things as they rot.
865
00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:06,899
Can it get any worse?
866
00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:08,067
Yes.
867
00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:10,820
♪
868
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:12,613
Calm down, calm down.
869
00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:17,076
I just don't want you to
fall asleep, dear audience.
870
00:42:17,076 --> 00:42:19,704
Time to visit my
buddy Sean Bonner
871
00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:22,498
and his wife Tara,
and son Rips.
872
00:42:22,498 --> 00:42:25,501
They have an
impressive collection...
873
00:42:25,501 --> 00:42:29,130
♪
874
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:30,631
- Sean.
- Johannes.
875
00:42:30,631 --> 00:42:32,592
Sean, Sean, Sean, Sean.
876
00:42:32,592 --> 00:42:35,636
So, we are both born in 1975,
877
00:42:35,636 --> 00:42:38,556
so we are pretty much
the last generation
878
00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:40,224
with an inbred angst
879
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:44,187
of total nuclear
annihilation, okay?
880
00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:46,564
As kids, we didn't know
that it was weird, right?
881
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,983
Like, there was nothing
unusual about going to school
882
00:42:48,983 --> 00:42:51,360
and your teacher saying,
"Okay, when the nuclear bombs
883
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,237
start dropping,
hide under your desks,"
884
00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:55,490
you know, and do this sort of
stuff because you're a kid,
885
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:57,158
like, "Oh, okay, well,
that's what you do."
886
00:42:57,158 --> 00:43:00,161
I was 11 years old and you
were 11 years old in 1986,
887
00:43:00,161 --> 00:43:02,455
and that was a kind of
bad year for modernity
888
00:43:02,455 --> 00:43:05,208
because, first of all,
Chernobyl blew up
889
00:43:05,208 --> 00:43:08,836
and secondly, the Challenger
explosion happened.
890
00:43:08,836 --> 00:43:12,173
Goddamn O-ring.
891
00:43:12,173 --> 00:43:15,885
I don't worry too much
about the established rules
892
00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:19,138
and setup of things
because I sort of--
893
00:43:19,138 --> 00:43:20,807
I sort of always
approach that as that's--
894
00:43:20,807 --> 00:43:22,600
Whatever--whatever
is an existing process
895
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,393
to do something
is the old way.
896
00:43:24,393 --> 00:43:26,270
That's kind of something
that sort of sticks with me
897
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,815
in everything that I do, and
I think it probably is rooted
898
00:43:28,815 --> 00:43:30,191
in all of this sort of stuff.
899
00:43:30,191 --> 00:43:32,151
We were very, very
anxious in finding out
900
00:43:32,151 --> 00:43:34,070
that everybody was
okay really quickly,
901
00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:36,405
and once word started
coming back in
902
00:43:36,405 --> 00:43:38,825
about what was
happening at Daiichi,
903
00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:40,827
and the word that I was
getting from everyone in Japan
904
00:43:40,827 --> 00:43:43,371
was that they didn't
know what was going on
905
00:43:43,371 --> 00:43:44,914
and they couldn't
find any information.
906
00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:47,333
There was nobody
monitoring any of this stuff,
907
00:43:47,333 --> 00:43:49,460
and that the sort
of institutions
908
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,337
and organizations
that you would expect
909
00:43:51,337 --> 00:43:52,797
to be on top of that
910
00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:54,590
really didn't have
any idea what to do
911
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:55,925
and they weren't
doing anything.
912
00:43:55,925 --> 00:43:57,635
The world supply
of Geiger counters,
913
00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,846
essentially, sold out
in about 24 hours.
914
00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:01,722
There was nobody--nobody
buying them before that
915
00:44:01,722 --> 00:44:03,266
and then everybody
buying them after that,
916
00:44:03,266 --> 00:44:05,726
so the entire supply chain
died up immediately.
917
00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:08,145
What you need for a
functioning market
918
00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:10,565
- is a good crisis.
- Yeah, exactly.
919
00:44:10,565 --> 00:44:12,525
The example that I use a lot
is, like, if you wanted
920
00:44:12,525 --> 00:44:16,112
to find out what the weather
was in Los Angeles right now,
921
00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:17,446
and the best thing
you could get
922
00:44:17,446 --> 00:44:18,948
was an average for
all of California.
923
00:44:18,948 --> 00:44:21,075
This device collects
a radiation reading
924
00:44:21,075 --> 00:44:23,452
every five seconds and
ties it to a GPS point
925
00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:25,955
and then uploads
it to a server
926
00:44:25,955 --> 00:44:28,916
that's shared for
the entire world,
927
00:44:28,916 --> 00:44:33,838
so now we have just shy
of 30 million data points
928
00:44:33,838 --> 00:44:35,506
covering the entire world.
929
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:38,092
This is more data than
every other organization
930
00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:41,220
who's ever collected
radiation readings combined.
931
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:42,972
- Wonderful.
- It's been pretty fantastic.
932
00:44:42,972 --> 00:44:45,850
Yes, it is, and we will
take it on the road with us.
933
00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:47,435
Yeah, absolutely,
I have one for you
934
00:44:47,435 --> 00:44:49,270
so you can map out
the entire route.
935
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:53,941
We'll strap it onto our
little Town & Country
936
00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:55,985
and find out
what is out there.
937
00:44:55,985 --> 00:44:58,362
Yeah, totally,
you should, you should.
938
00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:01,032
Let's check out
the L.A. River.
939
00:45:01,032 --> 00:45:12,710
♪
940
00:45:15,755 --> 00:45:18,925
We have to get
to Griffith Park.
941
00:45:18,925 --> 00:45:23,262
The fastest route is the
wormhole in Sean's beard.
942
00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:28,559
♪
943
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,437
This tunnel is
very dear to me.
944
00:45:31,437 --> 00:45:34,106
It goes right into my heart.
945
00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:35,316
Thanks to Hollywood
946
00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:38,778
and its love for
cost-efficient wizardry,
947
00:45:38,778 --> 00:45:43,115
I'm standing at the entrance
of three marvelous universes.
948
00:45:43,115 --> 00:45:46,118
This tunnel is the
portal to Toontown
949
00:45:46,118 --> 00:45:48,829
in Who Framed Roger Rabbit,
950
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:50,581
a movie about the destruction
951
00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:54,168
of the public transport system
by private car companies.
952
00:45:54,168 --> 00:45:58,297
It's also the scene of the
wonderful hoverboard sequence
953
00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:00,633
in Back to the Future II,
954
00:46:00,633 --> 00:46:04,220
set in the distant
future of 2015.
955
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:05,846
And most important:
956
00:46:05,846 --> 00:46:07,682
it's the tunnel
into the bowels
957
00:46:07,682 --> 00:46:11,143
of mutual assured destruction,
958
00:46:11,143 --> 00:46:15,898
the entrance to NORAD,
in WarGames from 1983.
959
00:46:15,898 --> 00:46:18,734
Home of WOPR, a supercomputer
960
00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:21,487
that almost turns
the world population
961
00:46:21,487 --> 00:46:25,783
into sizzling hamburgers.
962
00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:28,786
WarGames was
very influential.
963
00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:31,622
For the first time ever,
it presented the trope
964
00:46:31,622 --> 00:46:33,708
of the lone,
intelligent hacker
965
00:46:33,708 --> 00:46:35,418
to a mainstream audience
966
00:46:35,418 --> 00:46:39,213
and created a whole flood
of keyboard jockeys.
967
00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:42,633
For me, WarGames
offered the first glimpse
968
00:46:42,633 --> 00:46:45,052
into understanding the obscene
969
00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:48,472
and absurd power
structures of society.
970
00:46:48,472 --> 00:46:49,849
We don't need experts,
971
00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:52,852
we need people who
are willing to play.
972
00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:56,564
Thirty years later, hacker
culture is still too white
973
00:46:56,564 --> 00:46:59,734
and too male and mostly
made up of highly educated,
974
00:46:59,734 --> 00:47:01,902
extremely well-paid people
975
00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:04,155
who think they're
being oppressed.
976
00:47:04,155 --> 00:47:07,867
What about a nice game of
dialectical materialism?
977
00:47:07,867 --> 00:47:10,161
♪
978
00:47:10,161 --> 00:47:14,790
On the way to 4267
Roxbury St., Simi Valley.
979
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:17,752
I need to show you something.
980
00:47:17,752 --> 00:47:19,795
Damn, we are too late.
981
00:47:19,795 --> 00:47:22,673
Now you can't see
why we are here.
982
00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:24,759
But I will give you a hint.
983
00:47:24,759 --> 00:47:27,678
♪
984
00:47:32,391 --> 00:47:35,644
Hiding in the suburban
darkness behind me
985
00:47:35,644 --> 00:47:37,313
is the former estate
986
00:47:37,313 --> 00:47:40,691
of the Freeling family
of Poltergeist fame.
987
00:47:40,691 --> 00:47:42,610
♪
988
00:47:42,610 --> 00:47:46,572
In the 1970s,
Raymond Williams postulated
989
00:47:46,572 --> 00:47:48,657
that the real
innovation of television
990
00:47:48,657 --> 00:47:50,451
is television itself.
991
00:47:50,451 --> 00:47:53,537
He calls this "flow."
992
00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:56,957
An experience where all the
different program elements
993
00:47:56,957 --> 00:48:01,087
and styles form a
mesmerizing emotional pastiche
994
00:48:01,087 --> 00:48:02,671
for the viewer.
995
00:48:02,671 --> 00:48:05,591
There used to be an
end to this "flow."
996
00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:10,262
Sometime came the
inevitable nightly signoff.
997
00:48:10,262 --> 00:48:12,223
Snow.
998
00:48:12,223 --> 00:48:15,267
I remember from my childhood
how that was a moment
999
00:48:15,267 --> 00:48:18,938
of terrifying
stillness and clarity.
1000
00:48:18,938 --> 00:48:21,315
It is no coincidence
that Poltergeist
1001
00:48:21,315 --> 00:48:24,068
used this phenomenon
as a plot device.
1002
00:48:24,068 --> 00:48:28,739
After the American national
anthem, the broadcast is over;
1003
00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:31,951
the snowstorm sets in,
and the eerie voices
1004
00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:34,537
of the damned start calling.
1005
00:48:44,964 --> 00:48:46,632
♪
1006
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:50,469
♪
1007
00:48:50,469 --> 00:48:52,638
The first American
towns I knew by name
1008
00:48:52,638 --> 00:48:55,224
were New York City
and Pasadena,
1009
00:48:55,224 --> 00:48:59,145
the latter because of NASA's
Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
1010
00:48:59,145 --> 00:49:01,105
birthplace of
the Viking probe
1011
00:49:01,105 --> 00:49:04,859
and other fine goods of
interplanetary gadgetry.
1012
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:06,068
It's 10:00 p.m.
1013
00:49:06,068 --> 00:49:07,486
Let's try to sneak in.
1014
00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:09,738
Hello, honestly,
we're just tourists
1015
00:49:09,738 --> 00:49:11,198
and wanted to check out JPL.
1016
00:49:11,198 --> 00:49:12,283
Can we go in?
1017
00:49:12,283 --> 00:49:14,577
Okay, that didn't work.
1018
00:49:14,577 --> 00:49:15,995
Frustrating.
1019
00:49:15,995 --> 00:49:18,747
Let's get hammered
in the hotel bar.
1020
00:49:18,747 --> 00:49:21,292
Suddenly, there is a
strange image appearing
1021
00:49:21,292 --> 00:49:24,420
on the rear-view monitor.
1022
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:26,755
We stop to check
what's going on.
1023
00:49:26,755 --> 00:49:29,842
♪
1024
00:49:29,842 --> 00:49:32,845
Jack Parsons was an
explosives hobbyist,
1025
00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:34,889
science fiction enthusiast,
1026
00:49:34,889 --> 00:49:37,099
and Crowleyan occultist.
1027
00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:39,602
He was also one of the
earliest people to focus
1028
00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:42,021
on practical rocketry.
1029
00:49:42,021 --> 00:49:46,150
In the '30s, rockets were a
crazy science fiction idea,
1030
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:49,028
so it took people who had
an entirely different concept
1031
00:49:49,028 --> 00:49:51,113
of what was possible
to make rocketry
1032
00:49:51,113 --> 00:49:52,740
a practical reality.
1033
00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:54,450
Although, his only
experience in the field
1034
00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:56,577
was working in an
explosives factory,
1035
00:49:56,577 --> 00:49:59,496
Parsons hooked up with a group
of Caltech grad students
1036
00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:01,498
trying to build
working rockets.
1037
00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:03,542
After ruining one lab in 1937,
1038
00:50:03,542 --> 00:50:05,878
the team known as
the "Suicide Squad"
1039
00:50:05,878 --> 00:50:07,463
were sent out to the Arroyo
1040
00:50:07,463 --> 00:50:09,673
where they could only
damage themselves.
1041
00:50:09,673 --> 00:50:11,383
Many things did explode,
1042
00:50:11,383 --> 00:50:14,511
but somehow they did not
blow themselves up.
1043
00:50:14,511 --> 00:50:17,640
Parsons' designs
became the foundation
1044
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,059
of modern
solid-fuel rocketry,
1045
00:50:20,059 --> 00:50:21,936
and the location
of their tests
1046
00:50:21,936 --> 00:50:24,313
became the Jet Propulsion Lab.
1047
00:50:24,313 --> 00:50:26,690
The Suicide Squad's
leader, Frank Malina,
1048
00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:28,609
became the director of JPL.
1049
00:50:28,609 --> 00:50:31,111
This combination of
occultist and technologist
1050
00:50:31,111 --> 00:50:33,113
blowing things up in
the dusty foothills
1051
00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:36,617
made sense in the context
of the freaky technoculture
1052
00:50:36,617 --> 00:50:38,911
of Los Angeles which
was a heavy blend
1053
00:50:38,911 --> 00:50:42,039
of boundless optimism
and cosmic paranoia.
1054
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,251
It was in this context that
someone like Jack Parsons
1055
00:50:45,251 --> 00:50:47,461
could be one of the
inventors of modern rocketry
1056
00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,255
because why the hell not?
1057
00:50:49,255 --> 00:50:50,881
And it was in this context
1058
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:53,259
that a pulp science fiction
author named Lafayette
1059
00:50:53,259 --> 00:50:56,178
ended up performing
Crowleyan sex magick rituals
1060
00:50:56,178 --> 00:50:58,555
with that same amateur
rocket scientist
1061
00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:00,140
in a Pasadena mansion.
1062
00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:01,767
L. Ron Hubbard went on to use
1063
00:51:01,767 --> 00:51:03,185
some of Aleister Crowley's
religious symbols
1064
00:51:03,185 --> 00:51:05,271
to create his own
Church of Scientology.
1065
00:51:05,271 --> 00:51:07,898
Jack Parsons was killed
in a mysterious explosion
1066
00:51:07,898 --> 00:51:10,067
in a Pasadena garage in 1952.
1067
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:11,360
He has a crater
named after him
1068
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,736
on the dark side of the moon.
1069
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:15,948
Today, JPL controls a
team of Martian robots.
1070
00:51:15,948 --> 00:51:20,786
♪
1071
00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:22,288
I like palms...
1072
00:51:22,288 --> 00:51:24,665
♪
1073
00:51:24,665 --> 00:51:28,919
A century ago, the iconic
street tree of Los Angeles
1074
00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:30,796
was not the palm.
1075
00:51:30,796 --> 00:51:33,215
In the 1920s and 1930s,
1076
00:51:33,215 --> 00:51:36,010
L.A. was busy
building its modern grid
1077
00:51:36,010 --> 00:51:38,429
of automobile boulevards,
1078
00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:41,849
and the city was looking for
standardized street trees.
1079
00:51:41,849 --> 00:51:45,853
Palms held out the promise
of symbiotic infrastructure:
1080
00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:47,855
they could provide
beautification
1081
00:51:47,855 --> 00:51:51,358
without dropping fruit
or buckling concrete.
1082
00:51:51,358 --> 00:51:55,237
Now palms stand for
glamour and celebrity.
1083
00:51:55,237 --> 00:51:57,323
A symbol was born.
1084
00:51:57,323 --> 00:52:05,789
♪
1085
00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:07,708
For longer than I exist,
1086
00:52:07,708 --> 00:52:10,336
the name Stan Winston
has been synonymous
1087
00:52:10,336 --> 00:52:13,547
with iconic
fantasy characters.
1088
00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:18,135
♪
1089
00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:21,472
Stan Winston Studio
continually set new standards
1090
00:52:21,472 --> 00:52:24,475
of excellence and innovation.
1091
00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:27,311
♪
1092
00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:31,106
After Stan's untimely
passing in 2008,
1093
00:52:31,106 --> 00:52:32,733
Matt Winston co-founded
1094
00:52:32,733 --> 00:52:35,611
Stan Winston School
of Character Arts
1095
00:52:35,611 --> 00:52:39,615
to preserve Stan's legacy
by fostering creativity
1096
00:52:39,615 --> 00:52:42,743
in a new generation
of character creators.
1097
00:52:46,372 --> 00:52:48,457
I grew up consuming
all the stuff
1098
00:52:48,457 --> 00:52:50,334
that your father
was working on
1099
00:52:50,334 --> 00:52:53,879
like The Thing or Aliens
or Jurassic Park.
1100
00:52:53,879 --> 00:52:57,257
You were living in a
household with your father
1101
00:52:57,257 --> 00:52:59,885
who was creating and
really doing all this stuff,
1102
00:52:59,885 --> 00:53:02,388
so you were probably
sitting there eating pizza
1103
00:53:02,388 --> 00:53:04,890
and your father would
say, "Ah, Jim Cameron,
1104
00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:07,559
he wants this and
this, I don't know."
1105
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,104
I don't know, is this
also like part of that?
1106
00:53:10,104 --> 00:53:15,192
Yeah, I was very
fortunate to be around
1107
00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:17,611
when Jim Cameron would
come and work with Dad
1108
00:53:17,611 --> 00:53:19,363
and they'd do tests
for alien queens
1109
00:53:19,363 --> 00:53:21,407
and, you know, you'd
think it would be,
1110
00:53:21,407 --> 00:53:23,117
"Oh, humdrum, this is
what I grew up around."
1111
00:53:23,117 --> 00:53:24,701
It was never humdrum for me.
1112
00:53:24,701 --> 00:53:28,997
I was always totally
excited by it and around it
1113
00:53:28,997 --> 00:53:32,334
just like you were 5,000,
6,000 miles away.
1114
00:53:32,334 --> 00:53:34,044
It was the same for me.
1115
00:53:34,044 --> 00:53:37,131
I was--I'm still the
biggest nerd for this stuff,
1116
00:53:37,131 --> 00:53:40,384
and I just got a closer
insider view of it,
1117
00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:42,928
but it's really
the same thing.
1118
00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:45,556
You know, we both
are--love, you know?
1119
00:53:45,556 --> 00:53:47,599
- Heart to heart.
- It really is.
1120
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,978
I mean, I still--I get
a big grin on my face
1121
00:53:50,978 --> 00:53:52,729
every time I go to a
special effects shop
1122
00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:54,189
and I see an artist working.
1123
00:53:54,189 --> 00:53:55,899
I'm wearing--look at that.
1124
00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:59,194
I'm wearing an Aliens
Colonial Marines cap.
1125
00:53:59,194 --> 00:54:01,655
- And it never gets old.
- It never gets old!
1126
00:54:01,655 --> 00:54:03,240
It never gets old,
and I'm the same as you.
1127
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,409
Wait, I'm dragging it here.
1128
00:54:05,409 --> 00:54:08,036
Look at this,
the Weyland-Yutani,
1129
00:54:08,036 --> 00:54:12,374
Weyland-Yutani bag on
my frigging backpack.
1130
00:54:12,374 --> 00:54:14,585
And I was--just happened
to be lucky enough,
1131
00:54:14,585 --> 00:54:16,128
I get to go onto
the set of Aliens
1132
00:54:16,128 --> 00:54:17,421
and help puppeteer
the alien queen.
1133
00:54:17,421 --> 00:54:19,298
Ah!
1134
00:54:19,298 --> 00:54:21,258
But I was as
excited as you were.
1135
00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:23,385
I was never like, "Ah,
a day at work with Dad."
1136
00:54:23,385 --> 00:54:26,722
It was always like, "Holy
crap, this is so awesome."
1137
00:54:26,722 --> 00:54:28,640
That's wonderful,
that's wonderful.
1138
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,227
So little outview,
what do you think will be
1139
00:54:32,227 --> 00:54:34,521
the next five, ten years
of special effects?
1140
00:54:34,521 --> 00:54:37,858
Where will the--the really
interesting stuff go now?
1141
00:54:37,858 --> 00:54:41,403
Um, I--I believe that there is
1142
00:54:41,403 --> 00:54:45,741
a pendulum swing
back to embracing
1143
00:54:45,741 --> 00:54:48,368
lots of techniques
for making movies.
1144
00:54:48,368 --> 00:54:51,747
I think after CGI came along,
1145
00:54:51,747 --> 00:54:54,082
everyone was so excited
by this brand-new toy
1146
00:54:54,082 --> 00:54:55,751
that they used it
for everything,
1147
00:54:55,751 --> 00:54:57,628
and I think there's
a new generation
1148
00:54:57,628 --> 00:55:00,339
who want to see us come
back to using everything
1149
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:02,174
and I think that's where
1150
00:55:02,174 --> 00:55:04,176
the industry's headed
and that's where the magic
1151
00:55:04,176 --> 00:55:05,594
comes back to movie making.
1152
00:55:05,594 --> 00:55:07,721
No one gets into
the movie business
1153
00:55:07,721 --> 00:55:09,306
to go to a big empty stage
1154
00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:10,974
with green walls
and people in green.
1155
00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:15,062
No, you get into storytelling
because you like--
1156
00:55:15,062 --> 00:55:16,146
You want to lick
the Terminator.
1157
00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:17,606
You want to lick
the Terminator.
1158
00:55:17,606 --> 00:55:19,733
He's actually licking
the Terminator.
1159
00:55:19,733 --> 00:55:21,318
Yes, I am, I am.
1160
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:23,278
This is what nerds
do, it's fine.
1161
00:55:23,278 --> 00:55:27,032
Just don't lick the
zombie head, um...
1162
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:29,576
I can put my finger up his
nose, like I can do this.
1163
00:55:29,576 --> 00:55:31,119
You can, and you can't
do that with pixels.
1164
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:32,412
I can actually lick the nose.
1165
00:55:32,412 --> 00:55:34,081
No, please stop
licking our stuff.
1166
00:55:34,081 --> 00:55:37,751
- Okay, I'll stop.
- Thank you.
1167
00:55:37,751 --> 00:55:39,253
We'll remove that in post.
1168
00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:40,587
It's okay, we'll
remove it in post.
1169
00:55:40,587 --> 00:55:43,840
The wonder of
special effects.
1170
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,426
Now another good example,
Fantastic Mr. Fox.
1171
00:55:46,426 --> 00:55:47,511
- Did you see that?
- Of course!
1172
00:55:47,511 --> 00:55:50,973
Old-style stop motion.
1173
00:55:50,973 --> 00:55:53,767
Great, it's magical to watch.
1174
00:55:53,767 --> 00:55:55,185
The Boxtrolls.
1175
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:57,312
So I think we're
getting back to variety.
1176
00:55:57,312 --> 00:56:00,607
That's what I think the
next ten years holds.
1177
00:56:00,607 --> 00:56:02,317
Thank you so much--hug, hug!
1178
00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:03,902
Oh, don't lick me though.
1179
00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:05,153
No, I don't lick you,
I don't lick you.
1180
00:56:05,153 --> 00:56:06,780
I know he's gonna lick me.
1181
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:08,031
Oh, he licked me!
1182
00:56:08,031 --> 00:56:09,783
He just licked me!
1183
00:56:09,783 --> 00:56:12,202
Stop licking people,
you crazy Austrian!
1184
00:56:12,202 --> 00:56:14,496
No licking?
What does he expect?
1185
00:56:14,496 --> 00:56:16,957
We are in San Fernando Valley!
1186
00:56:16,957 --> 00:56:19,876
I got so excited
that I forgot to ask Matt
1187
00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:22,212
the most important question:
1188
00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:25,674
Why do they send a high-tech
killing machine back in time
1189
00:56:25,674 --> 00:56:28,010
that can't speak
proper English?
1190
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:31,263
An 8-bit problem?
1191
00:56:31,263 --> 00:56:33,724
Escape from L.A.
1192
00:56:33,724 --> 00:56:35,559
Our next destination:
1193
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:40,063
The El Mirage Dry Lake Bed
in San Bernardino County.
1194
00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:42,524
♪
1195
00:56:42,524 --> 00:56:44,151
Ouch!
1196
00:56:44,151 --> 00:56:46,486
The lake bed is an
interesting place
1197
00:56:46,486 --> 00:56:49,406
of speed and stillness.
1198
00:56:49,406 --> 00:56:53,285
It is mostly used in car
commercials and yoga videos,
1199
00:56:53,285 --> 00:56:57,039
but it also was a testing
ground for rocket cars.
1200
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,124
Is this the right turn?
1201
00:56:59,124 --> 00:57:04,296
♪
1202
00:57:04,296 --> 00:57:08,884
Reminds me of the waltzing
truck scene in Convoy.
1203
00:57:08,884 --> 00:57:11,762
♪
1204
00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:16,058
After 45 minutes driving
around in dusty nothingness,
1205
00:57:16,058 --> 00:57:18,143
we are getting a bit worried.
1206
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,979
♪
1207
00:57:20,979 --> 00:57:22,939
Oh, look at that jet
engine right there.
1208
00:57:22,939 --> 00:57:24,775
There's the gate.
1209
00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:26,193
Okay, so what do we do?
1210
00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:28,236
I don't see any
human being and--
1211
00:57:28,236 --> 00:57:29,780
Back up?
1212
00:57:32,866 --> 00:57:34,201
...and that's the last
thing you want to do.
1213
00:57:34,201 --> 00:57:35,369
You want to...
1214
00:57:36,745 --> 00:57:39,331
Okay, welcome to
El Mirage, California.
1215
00:57:39,331 --> 00:57:41,124
I'm into race cars.
1216
00:57:41,124 --> 00:57:44,795
We are damn lucky that we run
into the mayor of Dry Lake.
1217
00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:46,630
Well, he is not
really the mayor,
1218
00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:48,882
but everyone calls
him that way.
1219
00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:50,550
And rightly so.
1220
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:54,137
He has the demeanor of
a Mad Maxian warlord,
1221
00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:56,973
and he sells car parts on eBay.
1222
00:57:56,973 --> 00:58:01,103
This is a fiberglass replica
of a 1929 Ford.
1223
00:58:01,103 --> 00:58:03,689
Supercharger
and this is the fuel injector.
1224
00:58:03,689 --> 00:58:06,149
The car weighs 5,000 pounds.
1225
00:58:06,149 --> 00:58:07,192
Oh, that's lead.
1226
00:58:07,192 --> 00:58:08,819
Yeah, lie down in there.
1227
00:58:08,819 --> 00:58:10,862
Woo!
1228
00:58:10,862 --> 00:58:12,572
'Cause you're not--you're not
really steering this thing.
1229
00:58:12,572 --> 00:58:14,616
You're just hoping
that it goes straight.
1230
00:58:14,616 --> 00:58:17,744
Whoa, Jesus...
1231
00:58:17,744 --> 00:58:19,371
H. Christ.
1232
00:58:19,371 --> 00:58:21,289
I'm in the middle of
nowhere, as you can tell,
1233
00:58:21,289 --> 00:58:25,210
but I really enjoy this,
you know, this kind of living.
1234
00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:28,171
Hear the noise in the
background, you know.
1235
00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:32,050
But over the years I've
seen all kinds of movies.
1236
00:58:32,050 --> 00:58:34,344
Clint Eastwood's
been out here,
1237
00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:37,597
uh, they did some
Star Treks out here.
1238
00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:39,349
A lot of times,
if I see a movie
1239
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:41,560
and then I may know
somebody working on it,
1240
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,271
and I'll go out
and that's always fun.
1241
00:58:44,271 --> 00:58:47,232
Yeah, you know, see the crew
and hang around with them,
1242
00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:50,193
and, of course, I go
bum a little free food.
1243
00:58:50,193 --> 00:58:53,029
Bum up to the roach coach,
you know.
1244
00:58:53,029 --> 00:58:55,782
Hey, the movie
people eat well.
1245
00:58:55,782 --> 00:58:57,617
You know, they'll have
burritos for breakfast,
1246
00:58:57,617 --> 00:58:59,578
they'll have roast beef
sandwiches,
1247
00:58:59,578 --> 00:59:01,079
and then they'll have
steak for dinner,
1248
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:04,124
and there's always
the craft person there.
1249
00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:06,084
Thanks, now I'm hungry.
1250
00:59:06,084 --> 00:59:08,879
The lake bed is featured
in the opening sequence
1251
00:59:08,879 --> 00:59:10,839
of Knight Rider,
1252
00:59:10,839 --> 00:59:12,883
but my favorite
movie shot here
1253
00:59:12,883 --> 00:59:15,886
is The Adventures
of Buckaroo Banzai
1254
00:59:15,886 --> 00:59:20,265
Across the 8th
Dimension from 1984.
1255
00:59:20,265 --> 00:59:22,851
A brain surgeon,
speed car racer,
1256
00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,228
rock star,
alien defender epic
1257
00:59:25,228 --> 00:59:28,231
with one of the best
bare man breasts
1258
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,359
in the history of
bare man breasts.
1259
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:33,612
It's a remarkably
enthusiastic,
1260
00:59:33,612 --> 00:59:35,906
good-natured movie for nerds
1261
00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:39,367
at a time before nerd
culture was mainstreamed.
1262
00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:41,203
It sadly fails offering
1263
00:59:41,203 --> 00:59:44,039
a single interesting
female character.
1264
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:49,211
♪
1265
00:59:49,211 --> 00:59:52,172
Heroes and heroines
are our demise.
1266
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:54,299
We don't need them.
1267
00:59:54,299 --> 00:59:58,887
We can't change the world
without thinking as a group,
1268
00:59:58,887 --> 01:00:00,639
as a system.
1269
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:04,017
Retelling and fetishizing
the hero narrative
1270
01:00:04,017 --> 01:00:07,771
is deadly naïveté,
perpetuating a belief
1271
01:00:07,771 --> 01:00:12,067
that "exceptional
people will save us."
1272
01:00:12,067 --> 01:00:15,946
No, especially not Elon Musk.
1273
01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:18,073
Can you see us drive away?
1274
01:00:18,073 --> 01:00:19,866
That's because we
are in the process
1275
01:00:19,866 --> 01:00:22,661
of accidentally leaving
our GoPro behind.
1276
01:00:22,661 --> 01:00:24,371
♪
1277
01:00:24,371 --> 01:00:26,289
The next step on
our little journey
1278
01:00:26,289 --> 01:00:30,210
on Damnation Alley
is Las Vegas.
1279
01:00:30,210 --> 01:00:33,213
Nothing should
be here but dust.
1280
01:00:33,213 --> 01:00:37,008
Vegas exists due to an
overlap of weird factors.
1281
01:00:37,008 --> 01:00:39,761
Trucking routes,
the mafia, the military,
1282
01:00:39,761 --> 01:00:41,680
and the entertainment business.
1283
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,891
Vegas is gorgeous
hyperreality,
1284
01:00:44,891 --> 01:00:46,935
but most of the stuff
people like here
1285
01:00:46,935 --> 01:00:48,687
is not my cup of tea.
1286
01:00:48,687 --> 01:00:52,148
I don't gamble, and I
don't like Penn & Teller.
1287
01:00:52,148 --> 01:00:54,109
I'd rather be locked
into a basement
1288
01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:56,194
full of Philip Glass
recordings.
1289
01:00:56,194 --> 01:00:58,113
But I'm no party pooper.
1290
01:00:58,113 --> 01:01:08,415
♪
1291
01:01:08,415 --> 01:01:10,208
Let's go to the outskirts
1292
01:01:10,208 --> 01:01:13,420
and visit my friend, Kristina
Amerson, for a coffee break,
1293
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:15,422
and let Eddie fly his drones.
1294
01:01:15,422 --> 01:01:17,674
He hasn't flown his
babies in two days
1295
01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:20,302
and that means
severe withdrawal.
1296
01:01:20,302 --> 01:01:23,263
♪
1297
01:01:23,263 --> 01:01:26,349
We spot an interesting RV.
1298
01:01:26,349 --> 01:01:28,268
♪
1299
01:01:28,268 --> 01:01:31,396
It belongs to Kelly Poots.
1300
01:01:31,396 --> 01:01:33,940
He repairs CB radios.
1301
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:36,443
Back when this was
really booming,
1302
01:01:36,443 --> 01:01:40,363
um, a lot of people used it
and they repaired it,
1303
01:01:40,363 --> 01:01:43,325
you know, that's the--
the component level,
1304
01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:44,701
if something broke,
then you fixed something
1305
01:01:44,701 --> 01:01:46,119
inside the radio.
1306
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:48,413
And nowadays,
everything, if it breaks,
1307
01:01:48,413 --> 01:01:50,415
you throw it in the garbage,
you buy another one,
1308
01:01:50,415 --> 01:01:52,375
and that's, unfortunately,
that's the way the whole world
1309
01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:54,210
is going through
a bunch of stuff.
1310
01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:58,548
But I see the last--at least
three or four years anyway,
1311
01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:02,135
that people are really
afraid of terrorists
1312
01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:03,929
and government and weather
1313
01:02:03,929 --> 01:02:07,349
and things going
on in the world,
1314
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:10,602
and these still are 12-volt.
1315
01:02:10,602 --> 01:02:12,354
They hook up--when
something happens,
1316
01:02:12,354 --> 01:02:15,523
these are garbage, you go
in the--boom, you're done.
1317
01:02:15,523 --> 01:02:18,193
These, you can
still communicate
1318
01:02:18,193 --> 01:02:21,112
at least five, ten miles
1319
01:02:21,112 --> 01:02:23,323
without any kind
of technology.
1320
01:02:23,323 --> 01:02:26,409
And everybody just had 'em
because it was convenient.
1321
01:02:26,409 --> 01:02:29,579
The economy crashed,
everything went south,
1322
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:32,415
and now we have a whole
different crew of people
1323
01:02:32,415 --> 01:02:33,917
driving the trucks
1324
01:02:33,917 --> 01:02:36,086
that don't even know
what a radio is.
1325
01:02:36,086 --> 01:02:39,506
You know, they see this,
"Oh, okay," you know,
1326
01:02:39,506 --> 01:02:41,633
and they don't know what--
1327
01:02:41,633 --> 01:02:43,468
Like the guy that
was just here.
1328
01:02:43,468 --> 01:02:45,011
He come to the
door and he says,
1329
01:02:45,011 --> 01:02:46,930
"Oh, my radio's not working."
1330
01:02:46,930 --> 01:02:49,015
I said, "Well, bring it in."
1331
01:02:49,015 --> 01:02:50,642
"What, I've got
to bring it in?
1332
01:02:50,642 --> 01:02:53,186
I don't understand."
1333
01:02:53,186 --> 01:02:55,814
In retrospect,
only those technologies
1334
01:02:55,814 --> 01:02:57,565
that prove functional
for a culture
1335
01:02:57,565 --> 01:03:02,320
and can be integrated into
everyday life are left over.
1336
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,657
We need to talk more about
the fascinating underworld
1337
01:03:05,657 --> 01:03:09,911
of Dead Media, about
the abandoned branches
1338
01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:12,372
of the tree of
media creation,
1339
01:03:12,372 --> 01:03:15,041
from cuneiform tablets
to Apple Newton,
1340
01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:18,628
from passenger
pigeons to MySpace.
1341
01:03:18,628 --> 01:03:20,714
♪
1342
01:03:20,714 --> 01:03:24,050
Something draws me northwest.
1343
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:26,302
I crave ice cream.
1344
01:03:26,302 --> 01:03:48,199
♪
1345
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:50,577
While Eddie is a
bit too energetic
1346
01:03:50,577 --> 01:03:52,912
and floods the bathroom...
1347
01:03:52,912 --> 01:03:56,249
I finally get my ice cream.
1348
01:03:56,249 --> 01:04:00,336
I think we are very close.
1349
01:04:00,336 --> 01:04:02,464
Dirt road.
1350
01:04:02,464 --> 01:04:04,841
Follow the dirt road.
1351
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,552
♪ Follow the dirt road ♪♪
1352
01:04:07,552 --> 01:04:16,853
♪
1353
01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:21,232
Somewhere beyond
this gate is Area 51.
1354
01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:23,318
Nobody really knows
what's going on inside,
1355
01:04:23,318 --> 01:04:25,361
but the reality
of military life
1356
01:04:25,361 --> 01:04:27,238
is certainly far
more hilarious
1357
01:04:27,238 --> 01:04:31,701
than anything Roland Emmerich
could ever come up with.
1358
01:04:31,701 --> 01:04:34,871
My friend, Trevor Paglen,
does a lot of research
1359
01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:38,166
to make this hidden world
visible and more accessible.
1360
01:04:38,166 --> 01:04:40,210
- Uh, wonderful.
- Good to see you, Johannes.
1361
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:41,836
I'm surprised that
it's actually working,
1362
01:04:41,836 --> 01:04:45,590
so, um, good to have you
and, please, tell me
1363
01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:48,551
a little bit about the
blackness behind me.
1364
01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:51,846
Okay, so Area 51, right
by where you're standing,
1365
01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:54,516
is inside a much
larger restricted area
1366
01:04:54,516 --> 01:04:56,184
called the Nellis Range,
1367
01:04:56,184 --> 01:04:59,437
and the Nellis Range is a
giant restricted military,
1368
01:04:59,437 --> 01:05:02,607
um, area in Nevada
1369
01:05:02,607 --> 01:05:05,318
that's about the
size of Switzerland.
1370
01:05:05,318 --> 01:05:09,030
Area 51 is basically
a black facility.
1371
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:10,782
But there's other
places as well
1372
01:05:10,782 --> 01:05:14,119
like the Tonopah Test Range,
for example, is in there.
1373
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:16,538
On the southern border is
the Creech Air Force Base
1374
01:05:16,538 --> 01:05:18,123
which is where
they fly all the drones
1375
01:05:18,123 --> 01:05:20,125
around the world from
via satellite uplink.
1376
01:05:20,125 --> 01:05:22,127
The military loves patches.
1377
01:05:22,127 --> 01:05:24,546
Almost everything
it does has patches,
1378
01:05:24,546 --> 01:05:27,882
even, oddly enough, programs,
units, and activities
1379
01:05:27,882 --> 01:05:30,927
that are officially secret.
1380
01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,721
It says,
"Classified Flight Test,"
1381
01:05:33,721 --> 01:05:38,143
and it has this alien
eating a stealth bomber.
1382
01:05:38,143 --> 01:05:41,104
And this stealth bomber has
1383
01:05:41,104 --> 01:05:43,690
this weird sigma
symbol in here
1384
01:05:43,690 --> 01:05:46,943
and what that represents
is invisibility, right?
1385
01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,279
So that's when they're doing
a radar cross-section test,
1386
01:05:49,279 --> 01:05:51,030
this is what
they're looking for
1387
01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:54,325
in a stealth airplane, something
approaching invisibility.
1388
01:05:54,325 --> 01:05:59,038
Um, the--here's
the numbers, the 509.
1389
01:05:59,038 --> 01:06:02,917
The 509 is the 509th
bombing squadron
1390
01:06:02,917 --> 01:06:05,211
whose lineage goes back,
1391
01:06:05,211 --> 01:06:08,047
actually, to Roswell,
New Mexico, which is, hence,
1392
01:06:08,047 --> 01:06:10,300
where this alien
figure comes from.
1393
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:11,718
It's kind of talking
about Roswell,
1394
01:06:11,718 --> 01:06:14,262
but then also
Area 51 is an alien.
1395
01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:18,183
You see this a lot in patches
associated with Area 51
1396
01:06:18,183 --> 01:06:21,144
where they use aliens
a lot in their patches.
1397
01:06:21,144 --> 01:06:23,354
And if you're a
conspiracy theorist,
1398
01:06:23,354 --> 01:06:25,023
some people interpret that
as like, "Oh, my God,
1399
01:06:25,023 --> 01:06:26,900
they have aliens
at Area 51,"
1400
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:28,651
but, you know,
the other part of it
1401
01:06:28,651 --> 01:06:30,862
is that they've appropriated
that image of the alien
1402
01:06:30,862 --> 01:06:33,781
and incorporated it
into their own mythology.
1403
01:06:33,781 --> 01:06:38,828
Here at the bottom it says,
"Gustatus Similis Pullus,"
1404
01:06:38,828 --> 01:06:42,582
and what that means is, it
says, "Tastes like chicken."
1405
01:06:42,582 --> 01:06:46,169
It's government-funded
fraternity humor on crack.
1406
01:06:46,169 --> 01:06:53,968
♪
1407
01:06:53,968 --> 01:06:56,721
Long drive to Phoenix is long.
1408
01:06:56,721 --> 01:07:00,600
♪
1409
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,061
Time enough to ponder.
1410
01:07:03,061 --> 01:07:06,231
Did you know that if you
removed all nerve cells
1411
01:07:06,231 --> 01:07:07,941
from your brain
and laid them out
1412
01:07:07,941 --> 01:07:11,319
end-to-end in a straight
line, you would die?
1413
01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:15,406
We are super excited.
1414
01:07:15,406 --> 01:07:18,534
We are visiting the
headquarters of Bad Dragon,
1415
01:07:18,534 --> 01:07:22,747
flourishing producers of
fine fantasy sex toys.
1416
01:07:22,747 --> 01:07:27,210
Only a few nerdverts
have that privilege.
1417
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:30,171
The location is kept
a strict secret.
1418
01:07:30,171 --> 01:07:33,967
It's wonderful to be here,
and what we can see
1419
01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:37,845
is a huge variety of dicks.
1420
01:07:37,845 --> 01:07:40,348
- Oh, yeah.
- Bad Dragon started
1421
01:07:40,348 --> 01:07:44,978
as a WordPress blog
about your endeavors
1422
01:07:44,978 --> 01:07:49,440
of creating molds and doing
do-it-yourself prosthetics.
1423
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,151
When we started out, like,
basically what happened
1424
01:07:52,151 --> 01:07:55,363
is I was working 14-hour days
between university and a job,
1425
01:07:55,363 --> 01:07:57,490
and it was all in
front of the computer,
1426
01:07:57,490 --> 01:08:01,202
and 14 hours a day
in your house
1427
01:08:01,202 --> 01:08:02,996
studying and doing
computer stuff,
1428
01:08:02,996 --> 01:08:05,748
you know, it gets very boring,
and I wanted to get out
1429
01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:07,792
and, you know, do something and
learn some practical things
1430
01:08:07,792 --> 01:08:09,961
and, you know, learn some
new skills or something
1431
01:08:09,961 --> 01:08:11,796
and take up a hobby.
1432
01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:15,675
And so I what I did is I
decided to try sculpting.
1433
01:08:15,675 --> 01:08:17,593
And so what I did is I
went and bought some clay,
1434
01:08:17,593 --> 01:08:19,595
some air-drying clay,
hobby clay, right,
1435
01:08:19,595 --> 01:08:22,890
from the art store,
and took it home
1436
01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:25,935
and said, "I'm gonna teach
myself how to sculpt,"
1437
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:28,313
and I decided I was
gonna go sculpt dragons
1438
01:08:28,313 --> 01:08:30,148
and fantasy creatures
and all the rest of this,
1439
01:08:30,148 --> 01:08:32,942
and I had great aspirations
of I'd have this new hobby,
1440
01:08:32,942 --> 01:08:35,862
and then proceeded to
find that the only thing
1441
01:08:35,862 --> 01:08:37,363
I could sculpt with any
degree of competency
1442
01:08:37,363 --> 01:08:39,157
was dragon dildos.
1443
01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:42,160
And what was funny was I,
you know, just sculpted stuff,
1444
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,661
you know, you squidge it around,
"Oh, that's kind of
1445
01:08:43,661 --> 01:08:45,121
sort of a dragon
dick, you know,"
1446
01:08:45,121 --> 01:08:46,831
and then shared it
with your friends
1447
01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:48,416
and, you know,
posted pictures online,
1448
01:08:48,416 --> 01:08:51,794
and people saying, "Hey,
so when can I buy one?
1449
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:53,713
When's this toy coming out?"
1450
01:08:53,713 --> 01:08:56,299
And I'm like, "Really,
really, you want this?"
1451
01:08:56,299 --> 01:08:58,968
Now Bad Dragon is
a thriving company
1452
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:02,305
employing over 40 people,
who have a lot of fun
1453
01:09:02,305 --> 01:09:05,016
while really doing
groundbreaking work.
1454
01:09:05,016 --> 01:09:08,644
Every day they use thousands
of dollars worth of silicone
1455
01:09:08,644 --> 01:09:10,271
and ship hundreds of toys,
1456
01:09:10,271 --> 01:09:12,815
many of them
custom-made pieces.
1457
01:09:12,815 --> 01:09:16,235
The sex toy industry is a
very uncanny environment,
1458
01:09:16,235 --> 01:09:18,696
and Bad Dragon doesn't
even try to compete
1459
01:09:18,696 --> 01:09:20,406
with the harsh reality
1460
01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,534
of dildo-producing
sweatshops in China.
1461
01:09:23,534 --> 01:09:26,496
Varka and his fellow
cocksmiths are nerds
1462
01:09:26,496 --> 01:09:29,749
and have a very imaginative
perspective on designing,
1463
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:31,918
manufacturing, and promoting.
1464
01:09:31,918 --> 01:09:33,461
Werewolf strap-ons?
1465
01:09:33,461 --> 01:09:35,588
Basilisk vaginas?
1466
01:09:35,588 --> 01:09:37,507
Shut up and take my money!
1467
01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:39,592
Nerds like assembling in clans
1468
01:09:39,592 --> 01:09:43,096
that always end up in
tribal warfare scenarios
1469
01:09:43,096 --> 01:09:45,139
that are very,
very unhealthy.
1470
01:09:45,139 --> 01:09:47,350
Now add gender and sexuality
1471
01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:50,478
and you usually end up
in a toxic wasteland.
1472
01:09:50,478 --> 01:09:53,606
The story of Bad Dragon
and its message of openness
1473
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:56,234
and acceptance is
telling a different story
1474
01:09:56,234 --> 01:09:58,403
and a super encouraging one.
1475
01:09:58,403 --> 01:09:59,737
Johannes, what the
hell are you doing?
1476
01:09:59,737 --> 01:10:01,447
I think he was
just laying down.
1477
01:10:01,447 --> 01:10:03,074
Yeah, I'm just
laying there, yeah.
1478
01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:06,702
Okay, and, now,
bring the dicks.
1479
01:10:06,702 --> 01:10:08,162
♪
1480
01:10:08,162 --> 01:10:09,789
I feel like I'm in
San Francisco again,
1481
01:10:09,789 --> 01:10:11,290
seeing some
performance art
1482
01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:13,042
and wondering, "What
the hell is going on?"
1483
01:10:21,342 --> 01:10:22,969
Ah, you don't get it.
1484
01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,054
Let's go to Olive Garden.
1485
01:10:25,054 --> 01:10:28,224
It is a fascinating example
of corporate culture.
1486
01:10:28,224 --> 01:10:31,894
Its menu is entirely based
on customer statistics.
1487
01:10:31,894 --> 01:10:33,938
It offers as Italian food
1488
01:10:33,938 --> 01:10:37,650
what Americans think
Italian food is.
1489
01:10:37,650 --> 01:10:40,653
It's a gastro-empirical
feedback loop,
1490
01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:42,321
and it knocks us straight
1491
01:10:42,321 --> 01:10:45,450
into a well-deserved
Alfredo coma.
1492
01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:52,290
♪
1493
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,921
What does my subconscious
1494
01:10:58,921 --> 01:11:02,091
want to tell me?
1495
01:11:02,091 --> 01:11:05,928
Maybe the physically
impossible promise
1496
01:11:05,928 --> 01:11:09,765
of unlimited breadsticks
1497
01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:13,436
haunts my skeptical mind.
1498
01:11:13,436 --> 01:11:15,813
Or maybe it tells me
1499
01:11:15,813 --> 01:11:18,983
that we should
go to Flagstaff
1500
01:11:18,983 --> 01:11:22,069
and check out Meteor Crater.
1501
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,071
♪
1502
01:11:24,071 --> 01:11:26,032
"The world's best preserved
1503
01:11:26,032 --> 01:11:29,494
meteorite impact
site on Earth."
1504
01:11:29,494 --> 01:11:31,746
♪
1505
01:11:31,746 --> 01:11:33,956
Meteor Crater is the
result of a collision
1506
01:11:33,956 --> 01:11:36,250
between an asteroid
and our planet,
1507
01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:39,378
before Bruce Willis
could stop it.
1508
01:11:39,378 --> 01:12:11,118
♪
1509
01:12:12,954 --> 01:12:17,458
This is an impact
simulation using impact.
1510
01:12:17,458 --> 01:12:21,045
And we're not allowed to
do "Arial" photography.
1511
01:12:21,045 --> 01:12:23,673
I wonder if we can use
Helvetica instead.
1512
01:12:23,673 --> 01:12:30,680
♪
1513
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,225
We make a stop at the dinosaur
tracks near Tuba City.
1514
01:12:34,225 --> 01:12:36,602
♪
1515
01:12:36,602 --> 01:12:38,396
Very impressive.
1516
01:12:38,396 --> 01:12:42,149
Our Navajo guide, Virgil
Secody, is very helpful.
1517
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:43,693
West side of Tuba City,
right here,
1518
01:12:43,693 --> 01:12:45,820
is a little town on top,
that's where I'm from,
1519
01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:49,156
but back here, we've got
some corn fields on top.
1520
01:12:49,156 --> 01:12:51,492
That's where my
grandpa's ranch at.
1521
01:12:51,492 --> 01:12:52,994
I come from back there.
1522
01:12:52,994 --> 01:12:55,037
How far would you
actually find tracks here?
1523
01:12:55,037 --> 01:12:56,747
Well, in this area,
it's probably like
1524
01:12:56,747 --> 01:12:58,165
a quarter acre right here.
1525
01:12:58,165 --> 01:13:00,710
Full of bones and then
tracks everywhere.
1526
01:13:00,710 --> 01:13:03,045
During the summer, there's
a bunch of people stopping.
1527
01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:05,756
Everybody took off
'cause it's kind of cold,
1528
01:13:05,756 --> 01:13:09,010
so it's just me
and him, that guy,
1529
01:13:09,010 --> 01:13:11,637
we're still waiting
for some customers.
1530
01:13:11,637 --> 01:13:13,472
In the end, he asks
for a donation,
1531
01:13:13,472 --> 01:13:15,057
and we gladly help.
1532
01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:17,852
Another reminder that
the socio-economic status
1533
01:13:17,852 --> 01:13:19,770
of the region is dire.
1534
01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:21,564
We leave behind
a little warning
1535
01:13:21,564 --> 01:13:23,399
for all the colonialists
1536
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:25,860
and creationists
for that matter.
1537
01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:27,945
Monotheism is a dictatorship.
1538
01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:30,823
The number of
the beast is one.
1539
01:13:30,823 --> 01:13:34,744
Come here and get your
well-deserved face-melting!
1540
01:13:34,744 --> 01:13:36,912
♪
1541
01:13:36,912 --> 01:13:39,582
Bilingual Navajo
speakers were recruited
1542
01:13:39,582 --> 01:13:41,667
during World War II
by the Marines
1543
01:13:41,667 --> 01:13:45,212
to speak Navajo language
as an unbreakable code,
1544
01:13:45,212 --> 01:13:48,090
and it helped
the U.S. win the war.
1545
01:13:48,090 --> 01:13:51,510
Teddy Draper, Sr., one of
the Navajo Code Talkers,
1546
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:53,471
later commented that
when he was going
1547
01:13:53,471 --> 01:13:55,640
to boarding school
before the war,
1548
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,768
the U.S. government told
him not to speak Navajo,
1549
01:13:58,768 --> 01:14:02,313
but during the war,
they wanted him to speak it.
1550
01:14:02,313 --> 01:14:05,191
A precise summary
of the problem,
1551
01:14:05,191 --> 01:14:08,945
amplified by the fact that
the only Code Talker Museum
1552
01:14:08,945 --> 01:14:11,530
on the planet is
in a Burger King,
1553
01:14:11,530 --> 01:14:12,948
with the biggest exhibit
1554
01:14:12,948 --> 01:14:15,076
being a printout
of Nicolas Cage.
1555
01:14:15,076 --> 01:14:21,540
♪
1556
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:26,504
No idea how, but we make
it to Durango, Colorado,
1557
01:14:26,504 --> 01:14:31,550
a former mining and smelting
town turned tourist mecca.
1558
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:33,552
A lovely place
full of wonders.
1559
01:14:33,552 --> 01:14:35,221
Not only because
my good friend,
1560
01:14:35,221 --> 01:14:38,599
Ryan Finnigan, lives here
and creates crazy tech art
1561
01:14:38,599 --> 01:14:41,936
like Benny the Booze Organ,
1562
01:14:41,936 --> 01:14:45,606
or this floating
speaker system,
1563
01:14:45,606 --> 01:14:49,902
or a machine that
turns itself off.
1564
01:14:49,902 --> 01:14:52,154
Ryan runs CarbonForm Design,
1565
01:14:52,154 --> 01:14:53,948
and creates new
techniques for metalwork,
1566
01:14:53,948 --> 01:14:57,910
like etching photographs
and similar glorious things.
1567
01:14:57,910 --> 01:15:00,246
Durango is very Wild West.
1568
01:15:00,246 --> 01:15:02,581
♪
1569
01:15:02,581 --> 01:15:04,542
Fap, fap, fap.
1570
01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:07,211
We check out the
Powerhouse Science Center,
1571
01:15:07,211 --> 01:15:10,089
a former electric power
plant that lit up Durango
1572
01:15:10,089 --> 01:15:12,383
even before New York City
or Chicago.
1573
01:15:12,383 --> 01:15:14,760
It was designed by
inventor, futurist,
1574
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,305
and kind of mad scientist,
Nikola Tesla.
1575
01:15:18,305 --> 01:15:20,599
Yes, this guy.
1576
01:15:20,599 --> 01:15:23,436
One of my favorite nerd
battles of all times
1577
01:15:23,436 --> 01:15:26,397
was the "War of the Currents."
1578
01:15:26,397 --> 01:15:28,607
Industrialist
Westinghouse was promoting
1579
01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:32,194
Tesla's alternating
current, AC,
1580
01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:37,158
while Thomas Edison tried
to sell direct current, DC.
1581
01:15:37,158 --> 01:15:40,202
Edison toured the U.S.
on a PR campaign
1582
01:15:40,202 --> 01:15:42,788
and killed cats
and cows with AC,
1583
01:15:42,788 --> 01:15:45,583
just to discourage
people from using it.
1584
01:15:45,583 --> 01:15:49,086
His desire to
disparage the AC system
1585
01:15:49,086 --> 01:15:52,423
even led to the invention
of the electric chair,
1586
01:15:52,423 --> 01:15:55,217
even though he opposed
capital punishment.
1587
01:15:55,217 --> 01:15:57,845
A man with priorities.
1588
01:15:57,845 --> 01:16:01,640
Twitter tells me that a truly
great one died yesterday:
1589
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,225
Terry Pratchett.
1590
01:16:03,225 --> 01:16:06,103
One of the few fantasy
authors who was a knight
1591
01:16:06,103 --> 01:16:10,024
and owned a greenhouse
full of carnivorous plants.
1592
01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,234
You will be surely missed.
1593
01:16:12,234 --> 01:16:18,407
♪
1594
01:16:20,951 --> 01:16:22,244
What a sunny day.
1595
01:16:22,244 --> 01:16:24,330
We drive out to
Smelter Mountain
1596
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:28,542
and strap one of Sean Bonner's
Geiger counters to a drone.
1597
01:16:28,542 --> 01:16:31,378
And there is a
reason for that.
1598
01:16:31,378 --> 01:16:35,424
The Durango Uranium Mill
was a uranium recovery plant
1599
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,219
set up secretly in 1943
1600
01:16:38,219 --> 01:16:41,263
to produce uranium for
the Manhattan Project,
1601
01:16:41,263 --> 01:16:44,183
the project to create
the first atom bomb.
1602
01:16:44,183 --> 01:16:46,435
The area underwent clean-up,
1603
01:16:46,435 --> 01:16:48,854
but can we trust
the government?
1604
01:16:48,854 --> 01:16:53,442
Hmm, let's send in a probe
and get some measurements.
1605
01:16:53,442 --> 01:16:56,153
♪
1606
01:16:56,153 --> 01:16:59,198
What a picturesque view
of Lake Nighthorse.
1607
01:16:59,198 --> 01:17:02,952
Let's turn the drone
and check out the dark side.
1608
01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:05,412
I wish this pile of gravel
1609
01:17:05,412 --> 01:17:07,873
would turn into
a giant creature
1610
01:17:07,873 --> 01:17:12,044
and use our drone
to take a selfie.
1611
01:17:12,044 --> 01:17:14,046
Okay, we have enough data.
1612
01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:16,382
♪
1613
01:17:16,382 --> 01:17:17,800
They must have done
a really good job
1614
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,343
of keeping it in there.
1615
01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:20,761
Well, seems okay.
1616
01:17:20,761 --> 01:17:24,306
Taxpayers' money well spent.
1617
01:17:24,306 --> 01:17:26,684
Today is the
nerdiest of all days:
1618
01:17:26,684 --> 01:17:28,686
Pi Day.
1619
01:17:28,686 --> 01:17:45,744
♪
1620
01:17:45,744 --> 01:17:47,288
Ah!
1621
01:17:47,288 --> 01:17:48,998
♪
1622
01:17:48,998 --> 01:17:50,916
The rest of the
night is blurry
1623
01:17:50,916 --> 01:17:53,794
and I dream of a
spirit named Jeannie
1624
01:17:53,794 --> 01:17:56,088
who torments an astronaut.
1625
01:17:56,088 --> 01:17:58,257
♪
1626
01:17:58,257 --> 01:18:00,801
Durango has a weekly
atheist meet-up,
1627
01:18:00,801 --> 01:18:04,889
and I'm talking about real
atheists, not agnostics.
1628
01:18:04,889 --> 01:18:07,850
Agnostics are like
vegetarians who eat fish.
1629
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:09,560
We meet our host, Ryan,
1630
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,770
in front of Durango's
Cowboy Church
1631
01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:14,148
during Sunday
morning service.
1632
01:18:14,148 --> 01:18:15,649
Maybe I could talk
a little more broadly
1633
01:18:15,649 --> 01:18:17,401
about kind of the
differences between
1634
01:18:17,401 --> 01:18:19,987
the foundational
thinking methodologies
1635
01:18:19,987 --> 01:18:22,531
that kind of span over into
religion and science also.
1636
01:18:22,531 --> 01:18:26,410
Um, so, I mean, obviously,
the foundational difference
1637
01:18:26,410 --> 01:18:28,996
is that if you're starting
first from a conclusion
1638
01:18:28,996 --> 01:18:31,248
and moving backwards, always
attempting to find evidence
1639
01:18:31,248 --> 01:18:32,791
to support your position,
1640
01:18:32,791 --> 01:18:35,502
like religious mythopoeic
speculation models,
1641
01:18:35,502 --> 01:18:39,256
um, comparative to
scientific empiricism
1642
01:18:39,256 --> 01:18:41,550
where you start with
evidence, you observe,
1643
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:43,552
find evidence, and then
infer from that evidence
1644
01:18:43,552 --> 01:18:47,181
what seems to be the best
explanation offered thus far,
1645
01:18:47,181 --> 01:18:48,933
which is always
an approximation,
1646
01:18:48,933 --> 01:18:51,518
and the value of your position
is not in the conclusion,
1647
01:18:51,518 --> 01:18:54,688
not in what your ultimate
belief ends up being.
1648
01:18:54,688 --> 01:18:56,815
It's in the way in
which you got there.
1649
01:18:56,815 --> 01:18:59,109
It's the process,
it's the methodology.
1650
01:18:59,109 --> 01:19:00,778
The conclusion is always
potentially fallible.
1651
01:19:00,778 --> 01:19:02,738
It'll always change
based on new evidence
1652
01:19:02,738 --> 01:19:04,448
as anomalies occur
1653
01:19:04,448 --> 01:19:07,326
and you're forced to
reconsider that new evidence.
1654
01:19:07,326 --> 01:19:09,745
Whereas from a
top-down structure,
1655
01:19:09,745 --> 01:19:11,830
um, where you start
with the conclusion,
1656
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:13,958
you're always susceptible
to confirmation bias.
1657
01:19:13,958 --> 01:19:17,002
You're always gonna just
attempt to find evidence
1658
01:19:17,002 --> 01:19:18,379
that just supports
your position
1659
01:19:18,379 --> 01:19:20,798
because the value
in your conclusion
1660
01:19:20,798 --> 01:19:23,258
is in your conclusion
and not your method.
1661
01:19:23,258 --> 01:19:24,927
For instance, there
was a classic debate
1662
01:19:24,927 --> 01:19:27,054
just recently between
Ken Ham and Bill Nye,
1663
01:19:27,054 --> 01:19:29,598
it was all over the
internet, on creationism,
1664
01:19:29,598 --> 01:19:31,934
and at the end of it, one of
the questions was asked was:
1665
01:19:31,934 --> 01:19:33,727
what would change
your position?
1666
01:19:33,727 --> 01:19:34,853
Or what would
change your mind?
1667
01:19:34,853 --> 01:19:36,522
And Bill Nye said, "Evidence,"
1668
01:19:36,522 --> 01:19:38,565
and Ken Ham said, "Nothing."
1669
01:19:38,565 --> 01:19:41,819
And that's not the type
of thinker that you want
1670
01:19:41,819 --> 01:19:44,280
functionally in a democracy
aside of you voting
1671
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,532
because when we start facing
1672
01:19:46,532 --> 01:19:48,325
much more complex
moral dilemmas
1673
01:19:48,325 --> 01:19:50,452
in the near future with AI
1674
01:19:50,452 --> 01:19:52,121
and the types of moral
dilemmas that are going
1675
01:19:52,121 --> 01:19:54,707
to be brought about by
advancing technology,
1676
01:19:54,707 --> 01:19:56,417
we need to have
a healthy debate.
1677
01:19:56,417 --> 01:19:59,962
Christianity is a death
cult gone horribly wrong.
1678
01:19:59,962 --> 01:20:24,111
♪
1679
01:20:24,111 --> 01:20:27,364
I experience a moment
of ontological panic.
1680
01:20:28,365 --> 01:20:29,825
♪
1681
01:20:29,825 --> 01:20:33,078
Today is a day about death,
1682
01:20:33,078 --> 01:20:35,539
but not in a bad way.
1683
01:20:35,539 --> 01:20:46,550
♪
1684
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:48,761
I'm the least
spiritual person ever,
1685
01:20:48,761 --> 01:20:50,679
but this place is awe-inspiring,
1686
01:20:50,679 --> 01:20:53,599
and unknowing future
generations will definitely
1687
01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:56,894
mistake this place
for a place of worship.
1688
01:20:56,894 --> 01:21:00,689
Metal flowers who
listened to dead stars.
1689
01:21:00,689 --> 01:21:03,275
What's also dead
is our cell phones.
1690
01:21:03,275 --> 01:21:05,736
The VLA is such a sensitive
receiving system
1691
01:21:05,736 --> 01:21:08,238
that it could detect
a cell phone's radio signal
1692
01:21:08,238 --> 01:21:09,948
at the distance of Jupiter.
1693
01:21:09,948 --> 01:21:13,077
♪
1694
01:21:13,077 --> 01:21:16,246
Trinity Site, the location
of the first nuclear explosion,
1695
01:21:16,246 --> 01:21:18,248
is not far from here.
1696
01:21:18,248 --> 01:21:21,085
Now we know where all
the uranium from Durango
1697
01:21:21,085 --> 01:21:24,880
got turned into
thermal radiation.
1698
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,509
A couple of miles down the road
is Blanchard Rock Shop,
1699
01:21:28,509 --> 01:21:31,929
selling beautiful
geological wonders.
1700
01:21:31,929 --> 01:21:33,889
One of these wonders
isn't geological per se,
1701
01:21:33,889 --> 01:21:36,475
but a unique man-made artifact:
1702
01:21:36,475 --> 01:21:39,019
Trinitite, the glass formed
1703
01:21:39,019 --> 01:21:41,855
by the first nuclear explosion.
1704
01:21:41,855 --> 01:21:44,733
Allison Cameron runs the
rock shop with her husband,
1705
01:21:44,733 --> 01:21:46,985
but she bought if from
the Blanchard family
1706
01:21:46,985 --> 01:21:49,238
in the early 1990s.
1707
01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:51,615
Mr. Blanchard,
the founder of the shop,
1708
01:21:51,615 --> 01:21:55,327
was a kind, and freedom-loving,
and adventurous man.
1709
01:21:55,327 --> 01:21:58,872
He had a rattlesnake pit that
tourists threw coins into,
1710
01:21:58,872 --> 01:22:02,251
and he climbed down every
day to get the money out.
1711
01:22:02,251 --> 01:22:06,213
Just the right kind of guy to
venture into a nuclear test site
1712
01:22:06,213 --> 01:22:08,841
to harvest Trinitite to sell.
1713
01:22:08,841 --> 01:22:11,301
They made it a national
historic site,
1714
01:22:11,301 --> 01:22:13,929
which made it a federal offense
to remove from the site,
1715
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:15,389
to remove the Trinitite.
1716
01:22:15,389 --> 01:22:17,599
So you can go out
there once a year now--
1717
01:22:17,599 --> 01:22:19,893
it used to be twice a year,
but now it's only once a year,
1718
01:22:19,893 --> 01:22:22,980
the first Saturday of April--
and see the site,
1719
01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:24,731
but you're not allowed
to pick it up.
1720
01:22:24,731 --> 01:22:26,817
It is a federal offense
to remove it from the site.
1721
01:22:26,817 --> 01:22:28,861
It'd be like going to
Mount Rushmore and chipping
1722
01:22:28,861 --> 01:22:32,072
on George Washington's
nose or something.
1723
01:22:32,072 --> 01:22:35,576
But I, fortunately,
have a whole bunch of it,
1724
01:22:35,576 --> 01:22:37,703
and it's some pretty
rare stuff to have.
1725
01:22:37,703 --> 01:22:39,621
This is my favorite piece of it.
1726
01:22:39,621 --> 01:22:43,584
Ah, oh my, look at that,
May I touch it.
1727
01:22:43,584 --> 01:22:46,587
Oh, beautiful.
1728
01:22:46,587 --> 01:22:49,715
Most of 'em are flat, because
what happened when the bomb
1729
01:22:49,715 --> 01:22:52,634
was detonated, it says
it fused the ground.
1730
01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:54,261
It did, but it didn't.
1731
01:22:54,261 --> 01:22:58,098
What happened is it liquefied
the sand in the air,
1732
01:22:58,098 --> 01:23:00,434
and then it splattered
to the ground like paint.
1733
01:23:00,434 --> 01:23:02,853
So most of the Trinitite
is gonna be flat,
1734
01:23:02,853 --> 01:23:05,522
not three-dimensional
like this so much,
1735
01:23:05,522 --> 01:23:08,483
but it's gonna be flat
and the bottom side
1736
01:23:08,483 --> 01:23:10,444
is going to be sand.
1737
01:23:10,444 --> 01:23:13,113
It's gonna be sandy, where
the top is gonna be glassier.
1738
01:23:13,113 --> 01:23:16,325
Oh, wonderful, so, and how much
1739
01:23:16,325 --> 01:23:19,953
of the Trinitite
did he carry out?
1740
01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:22,789
- Not enough.
- I guess, how much
1741
01:23:22,789 --> 01:23:25,334
- would that sell, let's say?
- That piece there,
1742
01:23:25,334 --> 01:23:28,378
I would sell that piece
for about $5,000.
1743
01:23:28,378 --> 01:23:31,173
In 1992, Mr. Blanchard
told his wife
1744
01:23:31,173 --> 01:23:32,966
that he would shoot himself.
1745
01:23:32,966 --> 01:23:34,676
She said that he
should go outside,
1746
01:23:34,676 --> 01:23:37,554
because she didn't want
a bloody mess in the kitchen.
1747
01:23:37,554 --> 01:23:41,183
Five minutes later,
she heard a shot from outdoors.
1748
01:23:41,183 --> 01:23:42,726
He was in charge of his life.
1749
01:23:42,726 --> 01:23:45,395
He did not want anybody
controlling his life.
1750
01:23:45,395 --> 01:23:48,565
He didn't believe in
being a burden to anyone.
1751
01:23:48,565 --> 01:23:50,692
He didn't want the government
taking care of him,
1752
01:23:50,692 --> 01:23:52,903
and didn't want his wife
taking care of him.
1753
01:23:52,903 --> 01:23:57,699
So he decided to kill himself
on June 30th of '92,
1754
01:23:57,699 --> 01:23:59,660
and it's kinda
an interesting story,
1755
01:23:59,660 --> 01:24:01,870
because I have a lot
of connections with this place
1756
01:24:01,870 --> 01:24:04,706
before I ever even
knew it existed.
1757
01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:08,126
I almost died on
June 30th of 1987.
1758
01:24:08,126 --> 01:24:12,422
♪ We'll meet again ♪
1759
01:24:12,422 --> 01:24:15,133
♪ Don't know where ♪
1760
01:24:15,133 --> 01:24:18,178
♪ Don't know when ♪
1761
01:24:18,178 --> 01:24:22,224
♪ But I know we'll meet again
1762
01:24:22,224 --> 01:24:26,270
some sunny day ♪
1763
01:24:26,270 --> 01:24:28,897
The first American
in space was Ham,
1764
01:24:28,897 --> 01:24:31,108
the Astrochimp.
1765
01:24:31,108 --> 01:24:33,235
Ham was known as Number 65
1766
01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:36,029
before his space flight,
and only renamed Ham
1767
01:24:36,029 --> 01:24:40,617
upon his successful
return to Earth.
1768
01:24:40,617 --> 01:24:43,078
His final resting place is at
1769
01:24:43,078 --> 01:24:48,041
the International Space Hall
of Fame in Alamogordo.
1770
01:24:48,041 --> 01:24:50,627
Well, let's say Ham's
final resting place
1771
01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:52,337
minus his skeleton.
1772
01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:54,172
That is somewhere else.
1773
01:24:54,172 --> 01:24:55,966
♪
1774
01:24:55,966 --> 01:24:58,760
Remember E.T.,
the friendly alien?
1775
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,971
E.T. died a horrible
death in shame,
1776
01:25:00,971 --> 01:25:03,473
and was buried in a mass grave.
1777
01:25:03,473 --> 01:25:04,850
Believe me.
1778
01:25:04,850 --> 01:25:09,479
This is the Atari video
game mass burial site.
1779
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,317
In 1983, Atari got rid
of all the unsold copies
1780
01:25:13,317 --> 01:25:15,652
of "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial",
1781
01:25:15,652 --> 01:25:19,031
one of the biggest commercial
failures in video gaming,
1782
01:25:19,031 --> 01:25:21,825
by dumping them
in a landfill.
1783
01:25:21,825 --> 01:25:24,953
The end of several eras.
1784
01:25:24,953 --> 01:25:29,207
♪ Some sunny day ♪
1785
01:25:29,207 --> 01:25:41,887
♪
1786
01:25:41,887 --> 01:25:44,556
Gotcha!
1787
01:25:44,556 --> 01:25:46,892
Ufology is the perfect religion
1788
01:25:46,892 --> 01:25:49,978
for the troubled postmodern age.
1789
01:25:49,978 --> 01:25:53,440
It's a convincing blend of
a strong belief in technology,
1790
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:55,776
of helplessness and masochism,
1791
01:25:55,776 --> 01:25:58,987
spiced up with a full-grown
inferiority complex.
1792
01:25:58,987 --> 01:26:02,032
♪
1793
01:26:02,032 --> 01:26:04,576
Driving through Northwestern
Texas feels a bit
1794
01:26:04,576 --> 01:26:07,621
like time dilation, and
I fear the world is suddenly
1795
01:26:07,621 --> 01:26:10,665
ruled by apes when
we stop at a gas station.
1796
01:26:10,665 --> 01:26:19,216
♪
1797
01:26:19,216 --> 01:26:21,843
Austin is great,
and I have to say this
1798
01:26:21,843 --> 01:26:25,138
because my ex-wife is
coproducing this film.
1799
01:26:25,138 --> 01:26:27,766
South by Southwest
Interactive is happening,
1800
01:26:27,766 --> 01:26:30,477
the biggest techie
culture event in the U.S.,
1801
01:26:30,477 --> 01:26:33,355
and the streets are
swamped with badgers.
1802
01:26:33,355 --> 01:26:35,190
That's how the locals
call the thousands
1803
01:26:35,190 --> 01:26:37,317
of festival guests
very fittingly.
1804
01:26:37,317 --> 01:26:41,530
It feels like a citywide
start-up swinger club.
1805
01:26:41,530 --> 01:26:45,784
We meet cyberpunk veterans Jon
Lebkowsky and Bruce Sterling.
1806
01:26:45,784 --> 01:26:48,912
Old friends and collaborators,
and Bruce was the first person
1807
01:26:48,912 --> 01:26:51,915
I interviewed for
monochrom in 1993.
1808
01:26:58,380 --> 01:27:01,842
I hosted a conference on the--
well, like an online forum
1809
01:27:01,842 --> 01:27:04,177
for Mondo 2000, the magazine
1810
01:27:04,177 --> 01:27:05,929
that was published at the time.
1811
01:27:05,929 --> 01:27:08,890
And people kinda showed up
who were sort of in this mode
1812
01:27:08,890 --> 01:27:11,435
and thinking about
these sorts of things.
1813
01:27:11,435 --> 01:27:15,063
And there was a guy who called
himself The Alien who showed up,
1814
01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:18,775
and he started talking
about how he was a cyberpunk.
1815
01:27:18,775 --> 01:27:21,445
I didn't really think of it
as a thing you could be
1816
01:27:21,445 --> 01:27:24,865
or as a political movement
or anything like that.
1817
01:27:24,865 --> 01:27:28,076
And suddenly people like this
guy were starting to show up
1818
01:27:28,076 --> 01:27:31,163
saying that they were cyberpunks
and that this was a reality
1819
01:27:31,163 --> 01:27:33,790
that they were living
or expected to live,
1820
01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:35,667
and it's like, "Wow, you know?"
1821
01:27:35,667 --> 01:27:39,463
That was super fun, and I
remember when I left the U.S.
1822
01:27:39,463 --> 01:27:43,675
and was hanging with the
Milanese cyberpunk underground,
1823
01:27:43,675 --> 01:27:47,429
guys from ShaKe Press,
or "Shake,"
1824
01:27:47,429 --> 01:27:49,055
And you know, these
were guys who were like
1825
01:27:49,055 --> 01:27:51,141
Milanese anarchists,
but they'd been reading a lot
1826
01:27:51,141 --> 01:27:53,351
of cyberpunk, and they'd
sorta decided to like,
1827
01:27:53,351 --> 01:27:56,605
carry it into daily life
and their normal, you know,
1828
01:27:56,605 --> 01:27:59,316
'80s, Italian,
left-wing drop-out world
1829
01:27:59,316 --> 01:28:02,736
of, you know, squats,
and bicycle repair shops,
1830
01:28:02,736 --> 01:28:05,363
and you know,
socialist communes.
1831
01:28:05,363 --> 01:28:06,698
And I thought,
"Okay, you know,
1832
01:28:06,698 --> 01:28:08,325
like, the genie's
out of the bottle.
1833
01:28:08,325 --> 01:28:12,078
These Milanese kids are
just like all over this."
1834
01:28:12,078 --> 01:28:16,333
And they had names like
Wrath of Valvole and Goma.
1835
01:28:16,333 --> 01:28:20,462
A lot of the effective cyberpunk
writing was very critical
1836
01:28:20,462 --> 01:28:24,216
of American politics because
it was basically Canadian.
1837
01:28:24,216 --> 01:28:28,678
The last thing I wanna get to
before they take our chairs is--
1838
01:28:28,678 --> 01:28:32,140
No, no, you're welcome to 'em,
we gotta go anyway.
1839
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:34,226
I have a present for you guys.
1840
01:28:34,226 --> 01:28:38,271
So, it's a project I did
with Heather Kelley,
1841
01:28:38,271 --> 01:28:42,442
and it's called Dogs Playing
Dungeons & Dragons.
1842
01:28:42,442 --> 01:28:45,904
- Dogs playing D & D, yeah.
- It's fantastic.
1843
01:28:45,904 --> 01:28:48,740
- You can put it somewhere.
- I'm gonna commemorate it.
1844
01:28:48,740 --> 01:28:51,785
- Arf, arf, arf.
- Needs to be online.
1845
01:28:51,785 --> 01:28:54,746
- You're welcome.
- Thank you, thank you.
1846
01:28:54,746 --> 01:28:56,831
- Making a mess here.
- Oh, no worries.
1847
01:28:56,831 --> 01:29:01,086
It's kinda like a Stonehenge
of chairs, I really like...
1848
01:29:01,086 --> 01:29:03,797
Steve Jackson Games
is based in Austin.
1849
01:29:03,797 --> 01:29:05,882
They created one of
the best pen and paper
1850
01:29:05,882 --> 01:29:08,802
role-playing systems, GURPS.
1851
01:29:08,802 --> 01:29:10,845
Part of the series
was a role-playing
1852
01:29:10,845 --> 01:29:13,682
scenario book for Cyberpunk.
1853
01:29:13,682 --> 01:29:15,976
The company got raided
by the Secret Service,
1854
01:29:15,976 --> 01:29:18,228
because they thought
it was an actual manual
1855
01:29:18,228 --> 01:29:19,854
for cybercriminals.
1856
01:29:19,854 --> 01:29:22,983
Fantasy and reality can
short-circuit in odd ways,
1857
01:29:22,983 --> 01:29:25,235
especially if you
add incompetence.
1858
01:29:25,235 --> 01:29:26,945
In the case of the
Steve Jackson Raid,
1859
01:29:26,945 --> 01:29:29,573
it ended in the confiscation
of their computers,
1860
01:29:29,573 --> 01:29:32,409
and a minor uproar in
the alternative scene.
1861
01:29:32,409 --> 01:29:35,495
But a short drive north
and we can visit a location
1862
01:29:35,495 --> 01:29:39,082
where incompetence really
led to a horror scenario.
1863
01:29:39,082 --> 01:29:41,668
The Branch Davidian
Compound near Waco
1864
01:29:41,668 --> 01:29:44,796
was the stage
of a 51-day standoff
1865
01:29:44,796 --> 01:29:47,132
between the church
members, the ATF,
1866
01:29:47,132 --> 01:29:50,010
and the FBI in 1993.
1867
01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:53,555
It ended in the death
of most of the Davidians.
1868
01:29:53,555 --> 01:29:57,183
I'm leaving behind
some Kool-Aid.
1869
01:29:57,183 --> 01:30:00,604
You think that I'm getting
my cult metaphors mixed up here?
1870
01:30:00,604 --> 01:30:02,647
Well, no.
1871
01:30:02,647 --> 01:30:06,526
The Kool-Aid is for the public,
who drank it in big gulps
1872
01:30:06,526 --> 01:30:09,738
by accepting the official
story too easily.
1873
01:30:09,738 --> 01:30:11,448
The Davidians were surely nuts,
1874
01:30:11,448 --> 01:30:13,742
but it was also one
of the biggest fuck-ups
1875
01:30:13,742 --> 01:30:16,286
in the history
of law enforcement.
1876
01:30:16,286 --> 01:30:26,921
♪
1877
01:30:26,921 --> 01:30:29,132
Oliver Stone's
movie interpretation
1878
01:30:29,132 --> 01:30:31,217
was probably too blown up,
1879
01:30:31,217 --> 01:30:35,138
but I will never forget
this quote from the film.
1880
01:30:35,138 --> 01:30:38,516
"What is past is prologue."
1881
01:30:38,516 --> 01:30:40,393
A motto to live by.
1882
01:30:40,393 --> 01:30:42,228
It's actually from
Shakespeare's Tempest,
1883
01:30:42,228 --> 01:30:44,564
but I never read that one.
1884
01:30:44,564 --> 01:30:46,483
♪
1885
01:30:46,483 --> 01:30:48,693
Driving, driving, driving,
1886
01:30:48,693 --> 01:30:52,197
and we have only one thing
that keeps us sane,
1887
01:30:52,197 --> 01:30:54,074
talk radio.
1888
01:30:54,074 --> 01:30:57,327
And we are so focused
on it that I miss a call.
1889
01:30:57,327 --> 01:30:59,120
I check my voice box.
1890
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,999
Howdy, Johannes, it's Dan
Wilcox, AKA danomatika online.
1891
01:31:02,999 --> 01:31:05,543
You should be just pulling
up into my hometown
1892
01:31:05,543 --> 01:31:07,128
of Huntsville, Alabama.
1893
01:31:07,128 --> 01:31:09,714
Remember that's Hunts-vull,
not Hunts-ville.
1894
01:31:09,714 --> 01:31:11,549
You don't wanna say
it Yankee style.
1895
01:31:11,549 --> 01:31:14,177
Growing up there was pretty
interesting, it's like living
1896
01:31:14,177 --> 01:31:17,514
in an island of engineers
in a sea of rednecks.
1897
01:31:17,514 --> 01:31:21,434
Yeah, and you should be just
coming in on, I assume, I-565.
1898
01:31:21,434 --> 01:31:23,061
You should be rounding
the corner and seeing
1899
01:31:23,061 --> 01:31:25,689
the giant lit up space penis,
that is the Saturn V
1900
01:31:25,689 --> 01:31:27,524
from the U.S. Space
and Rocket Center.
1901
01:31:27,524 --> 01:31:28,858
Spent a lot of time there.
1902
01:31:28,858 --> 01:31:31,277
I went to space camp
when I was eighth grade.
1903
01:31:31,277 --> 01:31:32,946
Yeah, growing up there
was pretty interesting.
1904
01:31:32,946 --> 01:31:34,823
It's a big Department
of Defense town
1905
01:31:34,823 --> 01:31:36,991
with a lot of
defense contractors,
1906
01:31:36,991 --> 01:31:39,536
and a very large army base
called Redstone Arsenal
1907
01:31:39,536 --> 01:31:42,288
which has Marshall Space Flight
Center from NASA on there.
1908
01:31:42,288 --> 01:31:45,208
A lot of amazing smart people,
my dad being one them.
1909
01:31:45,208 --> 01:31:48,253
He was an aerospace engineer,
and for some reason,
1910
01:31:48,253 --> 01:31:50,880
it makes me think--
he worked for a long time
1911
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,549
on this huge project
called Safeguard
1912
01:31:52,549 --> 01:31:54,634
which was an anti-ballistic
missile defense system
1913
01:31:54,634 --> 01:31:57,721
deployed in the mid '70s,
and it was only deployed
1914
01:31:57,721 --> 01:31:59,681
for one month, and
then it was taken off
1915
01:31:59,681 --> 01:32:01,558
due to the SALT II treaty.
1916
01:32:01,558 --> 01:32:04,185
So I guess it totally
did its job, right?
1917
01:32:04,185 --> 01:32:06,104
Pretty amazing that--
you know, back then,
1918
01:32:06,104 --> 01:32:08,690
that was a time when the
United States actually built
1919
01:32:08,690 --> 01:32:10,525
huge, amazing
large-scale systems,
1920
01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:12,610
and hey, now we build apps.
1921
01:32:12,610 --> 01:32:15,405
But whatever, at least we can
talk to each other on the phone,
1922
01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:17,699
except that you're not
picking up, but whatever.
1923
01:32:17,699 --> 01:32:19,451
Go drink a beer under
the Saturn V.
1924
01:32:19,451 --> 01:32:20,744
Talk to you later, ciao.
1925
01:32:20,744 --> 01:32:22,412
And certainly we do.
1926
01:32:22,412 --> 01:32:24,539
♪
1927
01:32:24,539 --> 01:32:26,583
We enjoy some very decent
1928
01:32:26,583 --> 01:32:30,086
German-ish sausages and beer.
1929
01:32:30,086 --> 01:32:34,674
The whole museum is a shrine
for Wernher von Braun,
1930
01:32:34,674 --> 01:32:36,843
who is one of the best
examples of the horrors
1931
01:32:36,843 --> 01:32:39,304
and wonders of the 20th century.
1932
01:32:39,304 --> 01:32:41,473
His rockets sent
people to the moon,
1933
01:32:41,473 --> 01:32:44,392
but he could only do that
because he worked for the Nazis
1934
01:32:44,392 --> 01:32:47,103
building V2 rockets
to destroy London.
1935
01:32:47,103 --> 01:32:49,981
Well, more people died in
the labor camp where they built
1936
01:32:49,981 --> 01:32:52,567
the V2 rockets
than did in London.
1937
01:32:52,567 --> 01:32:56,279
"Through Hardship To The Stars"
is not just a saying.
1938
01:32:56,279 --> 01:32:58,323
It's a curse,
1939
01:32:58,323 --> 01:33:01,409
but there is something
like symbolic karma.
1940
01:33:01,409 --> 01:33:03,995
Remember the shiny
American flags,
1941
01:33:03,995 --> 01:33:05,997
the message of triumph
of a system
1942
01:33:05,997 --> 01:33:07,832
of living over another?
1943
01:33:07,832 --> 01:33:10,543
While the $5.50 nylon flags
1944
01:33:10,543 --> 01:33:13,755
are still waving
on the windless orb,
1945
01:33:13,755 --> 01:33:17,133
they are not flags of the United
States of America anymore.
1946
01:33:17,133 --> 01:33:20,094
All material experts
have no doubt about it,
1947
01:33:20,094 --> 01:33:24,724
the flags are now
completely white, faded.
1948
01:33:24,724 --> 01:33:27,185
The beautiful outcome
of the indifference
1949
01:33:27,185 --> 01:33:29,604
of years of cosmic bombardment.
1950
01:33:29,604 --> 01:33:32,816
♪
1951
01:33:32,816 --> 01:33:36,694
From the darkness of outer
to the darkness of inner space.
1952
01:33:36,694 --> 01:33:38,988
No, not Martin Short's
gallbladder,
1953
01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:41,115
but Mammoth Cave in Kentucky,
1954
01:33:41,115 --> 01:33:44,661
the longest cave system
known in the world.
1955
01:33:44,661 --> 01:33:48,164
Last time I was here, I was 11.
1956
01:33:48,164 --> 01:33:51,543
I remember I asked a park ranger
where I could buy ice cream,
1957
01:33:51,543 --> 01:33:53,711
and he sent me to the bathroom.
1958
01:33:53,711 --> 01:33:56,464
I guess my accent
got better since then.
1959
01:33:56,464 --> 01:33:59,467
♪
1960
01:33:59,467 --> 01:34:01,719
African Americans
played a vital role
1961
01:34:01,719 --> 01:34:04,472
in the development
of cave tour routes.
1962
01:34:04,472 --> 01:34:06,808
Stephen Bishop was one
of the lead explorers
1963
01:34:06,808 --> 01:34:10,186
of the cave system,
he was a slave.
1964
01:34:10,186 --> 01:34:14,858
He gained his freedom in 1856,
and sadly died a year later.
1965
01:34:14,858 --> 01:34:17,694
But his legendary mapping
work laid the foundation
1966
01:34:17,694 --> 01:34:20,363
for future explorers.
1967
01:34:20,363 --> 01:34:23,992
One of them was Will Crowther,
a programmer and caver,
1968
01:34:23,992 --> 01:34:26,786
who wrote the first
text adventure game,
1969
01:34:26,786 --> 01:34:30,665
Adventure, in my
birth year of 1975.
1970
01:34:30,665 --> 01:34:33,042
Having just gone through
a divorce, he was looking
1971
01:34:33,042 --> 01:34:35,795
for a way to connect
with his two kids.
1972
01:34:35,795 --> 01:34:39,007
So he wrote a text-based
cave game based on
1973
01:34:39,007 --> 01:34:42,427
many of the locations that
Bishop discovered and named.
1974
01:34:42,427 --> 01:34:45,555
The game triggered
a global chain reaction.
1975
01:34:45,555 --> 01:34:48,516
Most importantly,
inspiring Roberta Williams,
1976
01:34:48,516 --> 01:34:51,185
the godmother of graphic
adventure gaming.
1977
01:34:51,185 --> 01:34:53,563
A lone woman in
a male-dominated field,
1978
01:34:53,563 --> 01:34:56,190
and one of my absolute heroines.
1979
01:34:56,190 --> 01:34:59,777
An interesting arc
of oppression, exploration,
1980
01:34:59,777 --> 01:35:01,988
personal loss, and creation,
1981
01:35:01,988 --> 01:35:05,533
and deeply rooted in the
troubled history of the U.S.
1982
01:35:05,533 --> 01:35:10,788
♪
1983
01:35:10,788 --> 01:35:12,373
Guess where I am.
1984
01:35:12,373 --> 01:35:23,217
♪
1985
01:35:23,217 --> 01:35:24,969
Beautiful Pittsburgh.
1986
01:35:24,969 --> 01:35:29,349
Birthplace of Michael Keaton
and chemical mace.
1987
01:35:29,349 --> 01:35:32,393
Look close,
focus on my underpants.
1988
01:35:32,393 --> 01:35:35,229
Can you see the 3D dolphin?
1989
01:35:35,229 --> 01:35:37,982
In fiction, Pittsburgh
is the origin
1990
01:35:37,982 --> 01:35:40,276
of the Videodrome signal.
1991
01:35:40,276 --> 01:35:43,696
In reality, it is known for
being one of the few cities
1992
01:35:43,696 --> 01:35:46,908
that made a successful
transition from a steel-based
1993
01:35:46,908 --> 01:35:49,327
to a knowledge-based economy.
1994
01:35:49,327 --> 01:35:50,995
Both equally cruel.
1995
01:35:50,995 --> 01:35:54,415
Wait to cross technology.
1996
01:35:54,415 --> 01:35:56,250
Do you know this fellow?
1997
01:35:56,250 --> 01:35:58,336
He created one of
the most interesting
1998
01:35:58,336 --> 01:36:01,297
political mythologies
of pop culture.
1999
01:36:01,297 --> 01:36:05,802
George Romero and his radical
consumers, the Zombies.
2000
01:36:05,802 --> 01:36:07,845
We drive to
Monroeville Mall,
2001
01:36:07,845 --> 01:36:11,516
location of Dawn of
the Dead from 1978,
2002
01:36:11,516 --> 01:36:14,769
to chat with leftist critic
and computer game designer,
2003
01:36:14,769 --> 01:36:17,855
Paolo Pedercini.
2004
01:36:17,855 --> 01:36:20,566
I think the ironic
part of this history
2005
01:36:20,566 --> 01:36:23,069
is that the shopping
mall indoors
2006
01:36:23,069 --> 01:36:26,239
was actually devised
and invented
2007
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:29,033
by, yes, a Viennese architect
2008
01:36:29,033 --> 01:36:32,704
who escaped from Austria
during World War II
2009
01:36:32,704 --> 01:36:36,416
and seek refuge
in the United States.
2010
01:36:36,416 --> 01:36:38,626
And he tried to essentially
2011
01:36:38,626 --> 01:36:41,462
counter the suburban sprawl.
2012
01:36:41,462 --> 01:36:44,632
He tried to bring some lessons
2013
01:36:44,632 --> 01:36:48,553
from Europe, I guess,
to recreate the social--
2014
01:36:48,553 --> 01:36:50,722
the social context of a market,
2015
01:36:50,722 --> 01:36:53,266
of a square.
2016
01:36:53,266 --> 01:36:55,601
And through times,
2017
01:36:55,601 --> 01:36:58,062
he kind of realized how
his original concept of
2018
01:36:58,062 --> 01:37:01,858
recreating a piazza and sort of
like bringing people together,
2019
01:37:01,858 --> 01:37:05,695
creating a cultural center,
not just a consuming center,
2020
01:37:05,695 --> 01:37:09,949
he kinda realized how it
kind of failed as a project.
2021
01:37:09,949 --> 01:37:11,701
We are talking about
like a public space
2022
01:37:11,701 --> 01:37:13,995
while there is
a security guard here
2023
01:37:13,995 --> 01:37:17,290
probably trying to shut us down,
because this is a social space.
2024
01:37:17,290 --> 01:37:20,501
It's meant to be a sort
of simulation of a square,
2025
01:37:20,501 --> 01:37:22,295
but it's actually
a very private space,
2026
01:37:22,295 --> 01:37:25,048
and they're gonna kick us out
in five minutes, you know?
2027
01:37:25,048 --> 01:37:27,341
I think there is a strong
connection between
2028
01:37:27,341 --> 01:37:30,553
this kind of space
and geek and nerd culture
2029
01:37:30,553 --> 01:37:34,807
because geeks find their own
communities online essentially.
2030
01:37:34,807 --> 01:37:37,727
I think there is a strong
connection between
2031
01:37:37,727 --> 01:37:40,188
living your teenage years
2032
01:37:40,188 --> 01:37:43,191
in kind of an
isolated environment
2033
01:37:43,191 --> 01:37:45,860
that you depend on
the car transportation.
2034
01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:49,697
So you are always with your
family, always in your--
2035
01:37:49,697 --> 01:37:52,992
in your domestic environment.
2036
01:37:52,992 --> 01:37:55,912
Security is tight, because
a couple of months ago
2037
01:37:55,912 --> 01:37:59,415
a teen girl fight
turned into a giant mob.
2038
01:37:59,415 --> 01:38:00,833
Wow.
2039
01:38:00,833 --> 01:38:03,920
That's even more
terrifying than zombies.
2040
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,632
If you are 15 and want to
rebel against your parents,
2041
01:38:07,632 --> 01:38:11,052
there is a store
for that, Hot Topic.
2042
01:38:11,052 --> 01:38:13,805
A reminder that we shouldn't
fear the end of the world,
2043
01:38:13,805 --> 01:38:16,432
but its never-ending decay.
2044
01:38:16,432 --> 01:38:20,186
Watch children.
2045
01:38:20,186 --> 01:38:23,773
We flee to Punxsutawney,
Pennsylvania.
2046
01:38:23,773 --> 01:38:27,026
The center of this community
is a rodent on welfare.
2047
01:38:27,026 --> 01:38:29,654
Punxsutawney Phil, known
everywhere because of a film
2048
01:38:29,654 --> 01:38:33,157
that took the world by
snowstorm, Groundhog Day.
2049
01:38:33,157 --> 01:38:34,909
The never-ending loop
of small-town life
2050
01:38:34,909 --> 01:38:36,869
that brainwashes
a cynic into true love
2051
01:38:36,869 --> 01:38:39,247
is one of my favorite
conservative plots.
2052
01:38:39,247 --> 01:38:41,958
Only beaten by Ghostbusters,
a film that honestly tries
2053
01:38:41,958 --> 01:38:43,960
to convince us that a free
market can save the world,
2054
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,045
and that Environmental
Protection Agency inspectors
2055
01:38:46,045 --> 01:38:47,588
don't have penises.
2056
01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:50,633
Oh, the Euro is worth
less than the dollar,
2057
01:38:50,633 --> 01:38:53,219
for the first time
in recorded history.
2058
01:38:53,219 --> 01:38:56,806
Greece, ♪ I got you babe ♪♪
2059
01:38:56,806 --> 01:38:58,808
♪
2060
01:38:58,808 --> 01:39:01,477
Boston, Massachusetts.
2061
01:39:01,477 --> 01:39:04,063
We visit the makerspace
Artisan's Asylum,
2062
01:39:04,063 --> 01:39:07,150
and in front of Stompy,
a 4,000-pound,
2063
01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:09,193
six-legged hydraulic robot,
2064
01:39:09,193 --> 01:39:12,530
we meet my good friend,
Kit Stubbs.
2065
01:39:12,530 --> 01:39:16,075
Kit has a PhD in Robotics
from Carnegie Mellon,
2066
01:39:16,075 --> 01:39:19,078
but will not talk
about robots at all.
2067
01:39:19,078 --> 01:39:21,873
Kit decided to change careers
and work in the field
2068
01:39:21,873 --> 01:39:24,917
of sex tech and sex education.
2069
01:39:24,917 --> 01:39:28,921
Disclaimer, our Canon's SD
card committed suicide,
2070
01:39:28,921 --> 01:39:33,551
but monochrom's Evelyn
fixed the footage in post.
2071
01:39:33,551 --> 01:39:37,054
The stereotype of nerd doesn't
include sex, or does it?
2072
01:39:37,054 --> 01:39:38,973
It's a double-edged sword
though, because on the one hand,
2073
01:39:38,973 --> 01:39:41,392
you have the, like, poor nerd
who can never get laid,
2074
01:39:41,392 --> 01:39:43,352
and on the other hand,
you have a lot
2075
01:39:43,352 --> 01:39:47,273
of nerd cultural stories
2076
01:39:47,273 --> 01:39:50,818
in which the nerd, through
persistence, gets the girl.
2077
01:39:50,818 --> 01:39:53,738
And it's the horrible
sort of entitlement culture
2078
01:39:53,738 --> 01:39:56,240
where if you just work
hard enough, you know,
2079
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,452
the person that you want
will suddenly fall for you,
2080
01:39:59,452 --> 01:40:01,078
which is just
absolutely horrible.
2081
01:40:01,078 --> 01:40:04,498
What I have found is that
a lot of geeky people,
2082
01:40:04,498 --> 01:40:07,752
who are interested in thinking
about different kinds
2083
01:40:07,752 --> 01:40:09,962
of problems, find
sexuality fascinating.
2084
01:40:09,962 --> 01:40:12,131
So I self-identify
as a sex geek,
2085
01:40:12,131 --> 01:40:14,842
and I know a number of other
folks who do as well.
2086
01:40:14,842 --> 01:40:16,469
And so what you're just
taking is you're taking
2087
01:40:16,469 --> 01:40:19,180
all that passion, right,
of how you love something,
2088
01:40:19,180 --> 01:40:21,849
because nerds, we get into
a thing and we love it,
2089
01:40:21,849 --> 01:40:24,852
and we talk about it, and
we make our own creations
2090
01:40:24,852 --> 01:40:27,855
that are inspired by whatever
fandom we're talking about.
2091
01:40:27,855 --> 01:40:29,774
You can do the same
thing with sex.
2092
01:40:29,774 --> 01:40:32,151
You know, there's
sex-positive podcasts,
2093
01:40:32,151 --> 01:40:34,737
and making their own toys,
like I do, or you're going
2094
01:40:34,737 --> 01:40:37,615
to Cons and you're talking
with people about sexuality.
2095
01:40:37,615 --> 01:40:39,784
Like all that stuff
still happens.
2096
01:40:39,784 --> 01:40:43,746
By identifying myself
as a sex geek publicly,
2097
01:40:43,746 --> 01:40:46,332
that is a political act
in this culture,
2098
01:40:46,332 --> 01:40:48,834
because we live in this
very sex-negative culture
2099
01:40:48,834 --> 01:40:51,003
where sex is this kind
of shameful activity
2100
01:40:51,003 --> 01:40:53,005
that we don't really
wanna talk about,
2101
01:40:53,005 --> 01:40:56,133
and yet it's everywhere
in the media, complicated.
2102
01:40:56,133 --> 01:40:58,678
I'm trying to use
my privilege in ways
2103
01:40:58,678 --> 01:41:01,847
to help people feel
kind of more accepting
2104
01:41:01,847 --> 01:41:06,310
of their own desires, other
people's desires, and yeah.
2105
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:09,981
Sex geek, it's a thing,
it's a great thing.
2106
01:41:09,981 --> 01:41:12,525
Kit encouraged a wave
of new sex geeks
2107
01:41:12,525 --> 01:41:16,279
and the feedback is exciting.
2108
01:41:18,781 --> 01:41:25,413
♪
2109
01:41:25,413 --> 01:41:26,831
I fear two things:
2110
01:41:26,831 --> 01:41:29,333
Shoggoths and Goatse,
2111
01:41:29,333 --> 01:41:31,502
and both out of nostalgia.
2112
01:41:31,502 --> 01:41:35,006
Here is the tombstone
of H.P. Lovecraft.
2113
01:41:35,006 --> 01:41:38,759
We are not allowed to film,
so please don't tell Pickman.
2114
01:41:38,759 --> 01:41:42,305
H.P. Lovecraft loved
cheese and hated fish,
2115
01:41:42,305 --> 01:41:46,100
was a racist, and died,
without any success as a writer,
2116
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:48,436
a horrible death of cancer.
2117
01:41:48,436 --> 01:41:50,438
Maybe too much cheese,
not enough fish.
2118
01:41:50,438 --> 01:41:54,942
♪ It's beginning to look
a lot like fish-men
2119
01:41:54,942 --> 01:41:58,571
everywhere I go ♪
2120
01:41:58,571 --> 01:42:01,532
Lovecraft was very
important for me.
2121
01:42:01,532 --> 01:42:03,701
He was the first of many idols
2122
01:42:03,701 --> 01:42:06,162
that I learned to question
and disagree with,
2123
01:42:06,162 --> 01:42:07,830
and I needed that to grow up.
2124
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:11,709
♪ I'm beginning to hear
a lot of fish-men
2125
01:42:11,709 --> 01:42:15,379
right outside my door ♪
2126
01:42:15,379 --> 01:42:19,675
♪ As I try to escape in fright
to the moonlit Innsmouth night
2127
01:42:19,675 --> 01:42:23,346
I can hear some more ♪♪
2128
01:42:23,346 --> 01:42:25,348
♪
2129
01:42:25,348 --> 01:42:28,601
Is love our true destiny?
2130
01:42:28,601 --> 01:42:30,811
No, it's Hopewell Junction,
New York,
2131
01:42:30,811 --> 01:42:33,814
to meet Jason Scott,
computer historian.
2132
01:42:33,814 --> 01:42:37,193
Nerds care about history,
but until somebody
2133
01:42:37,193 --> 01:42:40,237
kind of walks them through
what exactly happened,
2134
01:42:40,237 --> 01:42:43,074
the stories they'll tell you
will be extremely self-centered
2135
01:42:43,074 --> 01:42:46,702
and extremely oriented
towards their world view.
2136
01:42:46,702 --> 01:42:49,330
Okay, so,
2137
01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:52,458
currently we're located
in the information cube,
2138
01:42:52,458 --> 01:42:54,877
which is actually an information
shipping container,
2139
01:42:54,877 --> 01:42:57,880
which is a shipping container
I started renting
2140
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,758
a number of years ago when
I moved out of my old house
2141
01:43:00,758 --> 01:43:02,385
and moved to New York State.
2142
01:43:02,385 --> 01:43:05,638
And I had collected
all variety of technology,
2143
01:43:05,638 --> 01:43:09,266
just various pieces of
human and computer culture,
2144
01:43:09,266 --> 01:43:12,603
and wanted to store them
in some sort of way
2145
01:43:12,603 --> 01:43:15,272
that I could then figure
out what to do next.
2146
01:43:15,272 --> 01:43:17,691
What I've done next, of course,
is just amass more stuff.
2147
01:43:17,691 --> 01:43:19,068
You stay where you are.
2148
01:43:19,068 --> 01:43:22,405
So, here's a Hello Kitty
personal pleasure toy.
2149
01:43:22,405 --> 01:43:24,198
A Pac-Man energy drink.
2150
01:43:24,198 --> 01:43:28,452
This was during the insane
energy drink wars of the 2000s.
2151
01:43:28,452 --> 01:43:30,871
This was a bunch of Baby
Boomers who thought that
2152
01:43:30,871 --> 01:43:33,833
they could explain the
computer revolution by using
2153
01:43:33,833 --> 01:43:36,001
50 and 60-year-old writers.
2154
01:43:36,001 --> 01:43:38,045
A bright and disgusting color.
2155
01:43:38,045 --> 01:43:40,548
This thing sank without a trace,
nobody ever heard of it again.
2156
01:43:40,548 --> 01:43:43,384
Sometime around, you know,
the '50s and '60s,
2157
01:43:43,384 --> 01:43:45,219
we were producing
a lot of electronics,
2158
01:43:45,219 --> 01:43:47,680
especially post-war,
but nobody looked at it
2159
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,598
as a pure historical force.
2160
01:43:49,598 --> 01:43:51,225
It was just products.
2161
01:43:51,225 --> 01:43:54,353
In the same way you
might not get worked up
2162
01:43:54,353 --> 01:43:56,730
about a traffic cone, or you
might not get worked up
2163
01:43:56,730 --> 01:43:58,774
about a shopping cart,
you wouldn't get worked up
2164
01:43:58,774 --> 01:44:01,986
about a computer or a piece
of electronic equipment.
2165
01:44:01,986 --> 01:44:04,655
And what we've discovered
is that, no, it has real
2166
01:44:04,655 --> 01:44:07,283
historical value
and meaning and where is it?
2167
01:44:07,283 --> 01:44:10,411
Floppy disks,
if you're a younger kid,
2168
01:44:10,411 --> 01:44:12,538
look, it's a bunch
of save icons.
2169
01:44:12,538 --> 01:44:16,083
What I and others have
to do is go through them,
2170
01:44:16,083 --> 01:44:18,502
pull out the data that's on
them, and store them online
2171
01:44:18,502 --> 01:44:21,172
so that later,
in 40 or 50 years,
2172
01:44:21,172 --> 01:44:23,632
we're still able to figure
out what these things were.
2173
01:44:23,632 --> 01:44:27,553
The third font disk, this
is the second font disk.
2174
01:44:27,553 --> 01:44:29,555
This is the first font disk.
2175
01:44:29,555 --> 01:44:32,349
This is the disk that lets
you read the other fonts.
2176
01:44:32,349 --> 01:44:35,144
Manuals to machines
or equipment or software
2177
01:44:35,144 --> 01:44:39,023
that no longer exists, and
this is vital to understand
2178
01:44:39,023 --> 01:44:41,233
where we came from
in terms of programming,
2179
01:44:41,233 --> 01:44:43,986
and what different machines did,
and what roles people played.
2180
01:44:43,986 --> 01:44:47,156
There's even, to a lighter
extent, a patent aspect
2181
01:44:47,156 --> 01:44:49,450
to understanding
who patented what when.
2182
01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:52,203
Minimum COBOL, this is
a business language
2183
01:44:52,203 --> 01:44:54,079
that computers used
on mainframes,
2184
01:44:54,079 --> 01:44:56,040
and is still in
use in some places.
2185
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,751
American civilization and
perhaps worldwide civilization
2186
01:44:58,751 --> 01:45:00,211
still runs on COBOL.
2187
01:45:00,211 --> 01:45:02,087
When somebody says to me
like, "I think you have
2188
01:45:02,087 --> 01:45:05,174
a hoarding problem,"I go,
"Well, I'll take your opinion
2189
01:45:05,174 --> 01:45:08,469
and I will carefully stack
it with all the others."
2190
01:45:08,469 --> 01:45:12,932
We leave, and I'm glad Jason
didn't delve too deep.
2191
01:45:12,932 --> 01:45:16,352
I feared he would
awake the Balrog.
2192
01:45:16,352 --> 01:45:19,063
En route to New York, or N'Ork,
2193
01:45:19,063 --> 01:45:22,483
as they call it in
A Canticle For Leibowitz.
2194
01:45:22,483 --> 01:45:24,068
Laughing Squid's Scott Beale
2195
01:45:24,068 --> 01:45:26,529
is hosting a Traceroute
party for us.
2196
01:45:26,529 --> 01:45:28,781
A good chance to record drunk,
2197
01:45:28,781 --> 01:45:31,200
nostalgic statements.
2198
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,621
It's really weird
being mainstream now.
2199
01:45:35,621 --> 01:45:38,499
And I used to write down URLs
2200
01:45:38,499 --> 01:45:40,876
in my little notebook so
I could go when I get back
2201
01:45:40,876 --> 01:45:43,420
to a computer to look
up the websites.
2202
01:45:43,420 --> 01:45:46,507
URL, university
tilde user, you know.
2203
01:45:46,507 --> 01:45:48,425
So that's pretty precious,
I mean, really.
2204
01:45:48,425 --> 01:45:50,678
This recent hype
2205
01:45:50,678 --> 01:45:54,348
that I call "nerdsploitation,"
2206
01:45:54,348 --> 01:45:56,350
because for example, you know,
2207
01:45:56,350 --> 01:45:58,644
you have this
Big Bang Theory, right?
2208
01:45:58,644 --> 01:46:00,646
I mean, it kind of feels weird.
2209
01:46:00,646 --> 01:46:03,607
I mean, I definitely
think the nerds-nerds-
2210
01:46:03,607 --> 01:46:07,027
nerds-nerds-nerds-nerds,
2211
01:46:07,027 --> 01:46:09,029
they definitely tend to
be the early adopters.
2212
01:46:09,029 --> 01:46:12,449
They tend to be way
more engaged on a whole.
2213
01:46:12,449 --> 01:46:14,868
♪
2214
01:46:14,868 --> 01:46:16,954
Baby Jesus,
please open my motel room.
2215
01:46:16,954 --> 01:46:19,123
♪
2216
01:46:19,123 --> 01:46:20,374
Baby Jesus.
2217
01:46:20,374 --> 01:46:22,376
♪
2218
01:46:22,376 --> 01:46:24,878
To Raymond Rocello
and his orchestra,
2219
01:46:24,878 --> 01:46:26,964
whose smooth jazz
2220
01:46:26,964 --> 01:46:30,342
got interrupted too many times.
2221
01:46:30,342 --> 01:46:32,636
Welcome to Grover's Mill,
New Jersey,
2222
01:46:32,636 --> 01:46:35,180
picked by Orson Welles in 1938
2223
01:46:35,180 --> 01:46:38,434
as the location of a
fictitious Martian invasion
2224
01:46:38,434 --> 01:46:40,936
for a live radio
dramatization of--
2225
01:46:40,936 --> 01:46:43,606
The "War of the Worlds"
by H.G. Wells.
2226
01:46:43,606 --> 01:46:45,899
It caused a mass panic.
2227
01:46:45,899 --> 01:46:47,443
I demonstrate.
2228
01:46:47,443 --> 01:46:55,326
♪
2229
01:46:55,326 --> 01:46:59,079
Concerned citizens even shot
a nearby water tower
2230
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:02,082
thinking it was one
of the alien invaders.
2231
01:47:02,082 --> 01:47:04,251
What is there to learn?
2232
01:47:04,251 --> 01:47:06,962
Nothing, but the true
lesson of life,
2233
01:47:06,962 --> 01:47:09,673
when and when not
to give a fuck.
2234
01:47:09,673 --> 01:47:13,594
♪
2235
01:47:13,594 --> 01:47:17,640
Hello, Washington,
District of Columbia!
2236
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,017
The Pentagon,
always a good excuse
2237
01:47:20,017 --> 01:47:22,978
for liberal American self-hate.
2238
01:47:22,978 --> 01:47:24,980
Arlington National Cemetery.
2239
01:47:24,980 --> 01:47:26,774
We pay our tributes.
2240
01:47:26,774 --> 01:47:34,990
♪
2241
01:47:34,990 --> 01:47:37,660
But my fondest memory
is one of fiction.
2242
01:47:37,660 --> 01:47:40,829
The last minutes
of the glorious 1970s
2243
01:47:40,829 --> 01:47:44,166
paranoia movie, Capricorn One.
2244
01:47:44,166 --> 01:47:46,960
NASA fakes a Mars landing,
and when something goes wrong
2245
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,880
they need to kill off
the astronauts for real.
2246
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:53,592
But James Brolin survives,
and shows up at his own funeral,
2247
01:47:53,592 --> 01:47:55,511
in hyper-slo-mo.
2248
01:47:55,511 --> 01:47:57,805
I couldn't believe how
cool that ending was.
2249
01:47:57,805 --> 01:48:00,307
And I wish I could still
believe in such fantasies,
2250
01:48:00,307 --> 01:48:02,434
still believe in
the great narrative
2251
01:48:02,434 --> 01:48:05,145
of truth versus lies.
2252
01:48:05,145 --> 01:48:06,855
But it's just a fantasy.
2253
01:48:06,855 --> 01:48:09,650
I know that nerds like the
story of the lone underdog,
2254
01:48:09,650 --> 01:48:11,610
but it's ultimately
self-degrading
2255
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:14,822
and conceals the real problems.
2256
01:48:14,822 --> 01:48:18,409
It's not the evil feminists,
if you're a
2257
01:48:18,409 --> 01:48:20,828
It's not evil patents,
if you are part
2258
01:48:20,828 --> 01:48:23,247
of the fellowship
of open-source.
2259
01:48:23,247 --> 01:48:25,040
It's not the evil NSA,
2260
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,502
if you're a privacy
hacker martyr.
2261
01:48:28,502 --> 01:48:30,504
All of these are
third degree symptoms
2262
01:48:30,504 --> 01:48:32,715
and reductionist blunder.
2263
01:48:32,715 --> 01:48:35,342
All that exists in and through
2264
01:48:35,342 --> 01:48:37,428
and because of capitalism,
2265
01:48:37,428 --> 01:48:40,264
a totalitarian economic
game that encompasses
2266
01:48:40,264 --> 01:48:42,683
our planet since the late 1700s,
2267
01:48:42,683 --> 01:48:45,269
and there is no difference
if you live in Austria,
2268
01:48:45,269 --> 01:48:47,813
Iran, or Arlington, Virginia.
2269
01:48:47,813 --> 01:48:50,691
The basic rules are the same.
2270
01:48:50,691 --> 01:48:54,236
Capitalism separates us,
forces us into alienation
2271
01:48:54,236 --> 01:48:56,905
and de-solidarity,
and many nerds are just
2272
01:48:56,905 --> 01:49:00,451
willing cannon fodder
for its next upgrade.
2273
01:49:00,451 --> 01:49:04,329
Google Campus is like Logan's
Run with free shuttle busses
2274
01:49:04,329 --> 01:49:07,499
to visit Peter Ustinov
sleep on the street.
2275
01:49:07,499 --> 01:49:09,918
They initially set themselves up
2276
01:49:09,918 --> 01:49:12,087
as essentially Neverland,
2277
01:49:12,087 --> 01:49:13,672
a place where you
never had to grow up,
2278
01:49:13,672 --> 01:49:16,425
a place where everything
was there for you
2279
01:49:16,425 --> 01:49:19,887
so that you could spend
every waking moment
2280
01:49:19,887 --> 01:49:21,680
working for the company.
2281
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,641
And for the nerd type, the one
that's built up this bubble
2282
01:49:24,641 --> 01:49:27,144
of existence and this way
of looking at the world
2283
01:49:27,144 --> 01:49:30,647
from the outside--
was and continues to be
2284
01:49:30,647 --> 01:49:32,775
really, really
appealing to them.
2285
01:49:32,775 --> 01:49:36,069
The thing that drove me nuts
when I went to Facebook
2286
01:49:36,069 --> 01:49:39,823
was they had this DJ booth,
and they had vodka bottles
2287
01:49:39,823 --> 01:49:42,534
with little spouts attached
to them so you could
2288
01:49:42,534 --> 01:49:45,287
nail down the vodka
and do some DJ spinning.
2289
01:49:45,287 --> 01:49:47,456
And I was like, "Well,
that explains Facebook."
2290
01:49:47,456 --> 01:49:57,883
♪
2291
01:49:57,883 --> 01:50:01,595
Kind of overwhelmed
and a bit in a bad mood,
2292
01:50:01,595 --> 01:50:05,682
and this doesn't
make it any better.
2293
01:50:05,682 --> 01:50:09,186
Well, last day.
2294
01:50:09,186 --> 01:50:12,022
In 1955, someone
in the film industry
2295
01:50:12,022 --> 01:50:14,817
decided to put an explosive
under a blood-bag
2296
01:50:14,817 --> 01:50:17,110
to simulate a gunshot wound.
2297
01:50:17,110 --> 01:50:19,488
This technique is still
in use and performers
2298
01:50:19,488 --> 01:50:22,324
get hurt by shrapnel
all the time.
2299
01:50:22,324 --> 01:50:25,661
Steve Tolin is a marvelous
special effects problem-solver.
2300
01:50:25,661 --> 01:50:29,581
So he created a completely new
system based on air pressure.
2301
01:50:29,581 --> 01:50:31,750
Eureka, but originally,
2302
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:34,002
Steve wanted to
become a biologist.
2303
01:50:34,002 --> 01:50:37,256
In my heart, I'm a creature
creator above all else.
2304
01:50:37,256 --> 01:50:40,092
You know, and I think
that that really is because
2305
01:50:40,092 --> 01:50:43,512
of the biology foundation
that I've got.
2306
01:50:43,512 --> 01:50:45,389
So with biology,
what you're doing
2307
01:50:45,389 --> 01:50:47,140
is you've got the
form of something,
2308
01:50:47,140 --> 01:50:48,851
and you're gonna try to figure
out what the function is.
2309
01:50:48,851 --> 01:50:50,477
You're gonna figure out what
the hell does this thing--
2310
01:50:50,477 --> 01:50:53,230
where does he live, what
does he eat, what eats it.
2311
01:50:53,230 --> 01:50:55,566
With a creature in a movie
I've got the obvious scenario
2312
01:50:55,566 --> 01:50:58,068
where they give me a script and
they told me who he's gonna eat,
2313
01:50:58,068 --> 01:51:00,445
they told me what is gonna
try to kill it, how it moves,
2314
01:51:00,445 --> 01:51:02,865
where it lives, and so
my job then is to totally
2315
01:51:02,865 --> 01:51:05,784
reverse-engineer
the function of it
2316
01:51:05,784 --> 01:51:07,744
into what the form would be.
2317
01:51:07,744 --> 01:51:10,539
You wanted to go into biology,
2318
01:51:10,539 --> 01:51:13,584
and you do creature effects,
you do puppets.
2319
01:51:13,584 --> 01:51:15,919
And now you're working
for the Jesus nerds,
2320
01:51:15,919 --> 01:51:19,464
you're working for
a museum for creationists.
2321
01:51:19,464 --> 01:51:21,758
So the point that
I was just making
2322
01:51:21,758 --> 01:51:24,052
is really evident when
I'm working with creationists.
2323
01:51:24,052 --> 01:51:25,846
I've done it in the past,
I've worked for the museum
2324
01:51:25,846 --> 01:51:28,223
they built initially,
and you really feel like
2325
01:51:28,223 --> 01:51:30,100
that kinda sense,
in that group of people,
2326
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:32,644
of trying to recreate
God's work.
2327
01:51:32,644 --> 01:51:34,438
It's much more specific even
than what I'm talking about--
2328
01:51:34,438 --> 01:51:37,024
I'm trying to recreate what
exists, and they definitely
2329
01:51:37,024 --> 01:51:40,235
are trying to recreate
what they see
2330
01:51:40,235 --> 01:51:42,446
as having been created
ahead of them.
2331
01:51:42,446 --> 01:51:46,074
And they are now recreating
a full size ark, Noah's Ark.
2332
01:51:46,074 --> 01:51:48,076
They're rebuilding the entire
thing, it's gonna be, I think,
2333
01:51:48,076 --> 01:51:50,704
3 stories tall and
whatever, 500 cubits long.
2334
01:51:50,704 --> 01:51:53,165
I mean, it's gonna be a giant
place that you can go inside,
2335
01:51:53,165 --> 01:51:54,958
and they're recreating
everything.
2336
01:51:54,958 --> 01:51:56,710
And again, this is what was
so fascinating about it to me
2337
01:51:56,710 --> 01:51:59,046
because if you look about
it in terms of form
2338
01:51:59,046 --> 01:52:01,131
following function,
function sometimes is,
2339
01:52:01,131 --> 01:52:02,716
okay, so how does
the thing work?
2340
01:52:02,716 --> 01:52:04,676
Like what is the physical
part of how it works,
2341
01:52:04,676 --> 01:52:06,261
but then there's also
the function of like,
2342
01:52:06,261 --> 01:52:08,347
how does it function
theologically?
2343
01:52:08,347 --> 01:52:10,182
You know, and so what's
the form in terms of--
2344
01:52:10,182 --> 01:52:13,393
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
2345
01:52:36,750 --> 01:52:39,086
I had always heard
your entire life
2346
01:52:39,086 --> 01:52:40,963
flashes in front of your eyes
2347
01:52:40,963 --> 01:52:44,591
the second before you die.
2348
01:52:44,591 --> 01:52:47,052
First of all, that one second
2349
01:52:47,052 --> 01:52:49,846
isn't a second at all.
2350
01:52:49,846 --> 01:52:52,432
It stretches on forever,
2351
01:52:52,432 --> 01:52:55,143
like Hilbert space.
2352
01:52:55,143 --> 01:52:58,021
For me, it was eating
barbecue-flavored chips
2353
01:52:58,021 --> 01:53:02,401
while playing Micro Machines
on my AT 386.
2354
01:53:02,401 --> 01:53:04,611
♪
2355
01:53:04,611 --> 01:53:07,614
Or visiting Skywalker Ranch
and touching the real
2356
01:53:07,614 --> 01:53:11,618
Holy Grail from Indiana Jones.
2357
01:53:11,618 --> 01:53:14,997
Or watching American Beauty
for the first time,
2358
01:53:14,997 --> 01:53:17,874
and being the only one
in the theatre to understand
2359
01:53:17,874 --> 01:53:22,004
its true reactionary agenda.
2360
01:53:22,004 --> 01:53:26,383
I guess I could be pretty pissed
off about what happened to me,
2361
01:53:26,383 --> 01:53:28,719
but then I remember to relax,
2362
01:53:28,719 --> 01:53:31,263
and stop trying
to hold on to it,
2363
01:53:31,263 --> 01:53:35,892
and then it flows through
me like Russian hydrazine,
2364
01:53:35,892 --> 01:53:39,396
and I can't feel anything
but gratitude for every single
2365
01:53:39,396 --> 01:53:43,650
moment of my stupid little life.
2366
01:53:43,650 --> 01:53:46,987
You have no idea what I'm
talking about, I'm sure,
2367
01:53:46,987 --> 01:53:49,364
but don't worry.
2368
01:53:49,364 --> 01:53:50,907
You will someday.
2369
01:53:50,907 --> 01:56:32,986
♪
2370
01:56:32,986 --> 01:56:34,654
♪ The force ♪
2371
01:56:34,654 --> 01:56:37,032
♪
2372
01:56:37,032 --> 01:56:38,575
♪ The force ♪
2373
01:56:38,575 --> 01:56:41,036
♪
2374
01:56:41,036 --> 01:56:42,412
♪ The force ♪
2375
01:56:42,412 --> 01:56:44,998
♪
2376
01:56:44,998 --> 01:56:46,458
♪ The force ♪
2377
01:56:46,458 --> 01:56:48,084
♪
2378
01:56:48,084 --> 01:56:50,253
♪ The fucking force ♪
2379
01:56:50,253 --> 01:56:52,589
♪
2380
01:56:52,589 --> 01:56:56,384
♪ The motherfucking force ♪
2381
01:56:56,384 --> 01:56:59,221
♪ The force,
the motherfucking force ♪
2382
01:56:59,221 --> 01:57:02,891
♪
2383
01:57:06,645 --> 01:58:07,580
♪
2384
01:58:07,580 --> 01:58:09,124
♪ eBay ♪
2385
01:58:09,124 --> 01:58:09,916
♪ The force ♪
2386
01:58:09,916 --> 01:58:11,710
♪
2387
01:58:11,710 --> 01:58:13,128
♪ eBay ♪
2388
01:58:13,128 --> 01:58:14,045
♪ The force ♪
2389
01:58:14,045 --> 01:58:15,588
♪
2390
01:58:15,588 --> 01:58:17,090
♪ eBay ♪
2391
01:58:17,090 --> 01:58:18,091
♪ The force ♪
2392
01:58:18,091 --> 01:58:19,634
♪
2393
01:58:19,634 --> 01:58:21,928
- ♪ eBay ♪
- ♪ The fucking force ♪
2394
01:58:21,928 --> 01:58:23,680
♪
2395
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:26,266
- ♪ eBay ♪
- ♪ The motherfucking force ♪
2396
01:58:26,266 --> 01:58:27,642
♪
2397
01:58:27,642 --> 01:58:29,519
- ♪ eBay ♪
- ♪ The force,
2398
01:58:29,519 --> 01:58:31,313
the motherfucking force ♪
2399
01:58:31,313 --> 01:58:35,233
♪ My kingdom and my horse ♪
2400
01:58:35,233 --> 01:58:38,862
♪ My kingdom and my horse ♪
2401
01:58:41,990 --> 01:59:11,603
♪
2402
01:59:11,603 --> 01:59:13,104
♪ eBay ♪
2403
01:59:13,104 --> 01:59:14,647
♪ The force ♪
2404
01:59:14,647 --> 01:59:15,607
♪
2405
01:59:15,607 --> 01:59:17,108
♪ eBay ♪
2406
01:59:17,108 --> 01:59:17,984
♪ The force ♪
2407
01:59:17,984 --> 01:59:19,611
♪
2408
01:59:19,611 --> 01:59:21,071
♪ eBay ♪
2409
01:59:21,071 --> 01:59:22,155
♪ The force ♪
2410
01:59:22,155 --> 01:59:23,698
♪
2411
01:59:23,698 --> 01:59:25,992
- ♪ eBay ♪
- ♪ The fucking force ♪
2412
01:59:25,992 --> 01:59:27,660
♪
2413
01:59:27,660 --> 01:59:30,163
- ♪ eBay ♪
- ♪ The motherfucking force ♪
2414
01:59:30,163 --> 01:59:31,664
♪
2415
01:59:31,664 --> 01:59:33,208
- ♪ eBay ♪
- ♪ The force,
2416
01:59:33,208 --> 01:59:35,335
the motherfucking force ♪
2417
01:59:35,335 --> 01:59:39,255
♪ My kingdom and my horse ♪
2418
01:59:39,255 --> 01:59:42,884
♪ My kingdom and my horse ♪
2419
01:59:42,884 --> 01:59:44,302
♪
2420
01:59:46,763 --> 01:59:49,349
♪
2421
01:59:51,226 --> 01:59:53,520
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