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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:47,256 --> 00:00:49,883 They say our people were born on the water. 2 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:55,346 The teal eternity of the Atlantic 3 00:00:55,347 --> 00:00:58,057 had severed them so completely from their home, 4 00:00:58,058 --> 00:01:01,103 it was like nothing had ever existed before. 5 00:01:05,399 --> 00:01:08,985 These African men and women from different nations, 6 00:01:08,986 --> 00:01:11,488 all shackled together in the hull of a ship. 7 00:01:12,072 --> 00:01:13,907 They were one people now. 8 00:01:15,284 --> 00:01:17,869 And although they tried to break our ancestors, 9 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:20,246 to erase our identities, 10 00:01:20,247 --> 00:01:22,832 we forged a new culture of our own, 11 00:01:22,833 --> 00:01:24,960 giving birth to ourselves. 12 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:27,170 It didn't matter we were told 13 00:01:27,171 --> 00:01:30,840 that, by virtue of our bondage, we would never be American 14 00:01:30,841 --> 00:01:36,430 because it was by virtue of our bondage that we became the most American of all. 15 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:05,083 This is The 1619 Project. 16 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:47,750 Uh, Dad's here. Happy Valentine's Day, Nikole. 17 00:02:47,751 --> 00:02:49,669 This is a tape for Nikole. 18 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:51,547 Hello, darling. How you doing? 19 00:02:52,965 --> 00:02:55,132 Excuse me while I partake of this cancer stick. 20 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,429 My memory of my father, Milton Hannah, 21 00:03:00,430 --> 00:03:02,307 is tender and complicated. 22 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:07,062 He was brilliant, tough, funny, hard-working, and hard-living. 23 00:03:08,438 --> 00:03:10,524 He always flew a flag in our front yard. 24 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,152 Our home on a corner lot of a distressed block was humble, 25 00:03:15,153 --> 00:03:17,739 but my father made sure that flag was pristine. 26 00:03:19,241 --> 00:03:21,242 When I was young, I didn't understand 27 00:03:21,243 --> 00:03:23,578 how he could so proudly display his patriotism 28 00:03:23,579 --> 00:03:27,082 for a country that had treated him and our people so poorly. 29 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:41,345 You see, my father was born into poverty in 1945 30 00:03:41,346 --> 00:03:43,848 on a sharecropping farm in Leflore County, 31 00:03:43,849 --> 00:03:45,642 just outside of Greenwood, Mississippi. 32 00:03:46,476 --> 00:03:47,977 The region was notoriously violent 33 00:03:47,978 --> 00:03:50,898 when it came to its near-majority Black population. 34 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:55,610 Mississippi lynched more Black people than any other state in the nation. 35 00:03:55,611 --> 00:03:57,945 And Leflore County lynched more Black people 36 00:03:57,946 --> 00:03:59,823 than any other county in Mississippi. 37 00:04:01,325 --> 00:04:05,703 In 1947, my grandmother joined the flood of six million Black Southerners 38 00:04:05,704 --> 00:04:07,664 who fled north during the Great Migration. 39 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:10,500 Still, my father and his siblings grew up 40 00:04:10,501 --> 00:04:13,503 in a poor, segregated neighborhood in Waterloo, Iowa, 41 00:04:13,504 --> 00:04:15,172 and went to segregated schools. 42 00:04:16,507 --> 00:04:19,509 So in 1962, at the age of 17, 43 00:04:19,510 --> 00:04:21,928 my father took what seemed like the best option 44 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:23,721 for a poor Black teen: 45 00:04:23,722 --> 00:04:25,474 he signed up for the army. 46 00:04:27,726 --> 00:04:30,603 So you were a... a... a child 47 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:33,856 - when he came back from... from service. - Yes. I remember it so plain 48 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:36,901 because, uh, we had a porch... 49 00:04:36,902 --> 00:04:39,195 - Remember we had that porch... - Yeah. 50 00:04:39,196 --> 00:04:43,741 - And, uh, when that cab pulled up, Mama said, "Milton's here." 51 00:04:43,742 --> 00:04:44,701 Yeah. 52 00:04:44,702 --> 00:04:48,455 And, uh, got his... Popped the truck, got his duffel bag out 53 00:04:49,039 --> 00:04:52,000 and everybody's looking like, "Who is this guy?" You know? 54 00:04:53,544 --> 00:04:55,837 I remember he was proud that he learned to speak German 55 00:04:55,838 --> 00:04:57,338 Oh, yeah. He sure did. 56 00:04:57,339 --> 00:04:59,257 - I didn't know any other Black people who spoke German. 57 00:04:59,258 --> 00:05:01,676 And when I was in high school, I took German 58 00:05:01,677 --> 00:05:04,011 because I thought it would be cool to speak German with my dad, 59 00:05:04,012 --> 00:05:07,390 but then I... I was terrible at German and I didn't get very far. 60 00:05:07,391 --> 00:05:10,017 But it does speak to, like, Dad was, like, so smart. 61 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:11,102 I just... MONROE TILLMAN: Yeah. 62 00:05:11,103 --> 00:05:12,687 - He used to read all the time, I just remember... 63 00:05:12,688 --> 00:05:14,313 He was smart. All the time. 64 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:15,982 That's why you got all of them brains. 65 00:05:15,983 --> 00:05:17,860 Thank you. 66 00:05:20,195 --> 00:05:23,114 But despite his intellect and his military service, 67 00:05:23,115 --> 00:05:26,869 my dad was never able to live the so-called American dream. 68 00:05:27,703 --> 00:05:31,122 Instead, like so many Black Americans of his generation, 69 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:34,917 he would toil his entire life in service job after service job, 70 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:37,045 never seeming to get too far ahead. 71 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:46,847 The first thing you always see when you come to our house... 72 00:05:47,431 --> 00:05:49,871 Flag in the yard. is that flag on the pole. 73 00:05:50,726 --> 00:05:53,227 And one thing about Dad, 74 00:05:53,228 --> 00:05:54,729 he was patriotic. 75 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:55,938 - Oh, yeah. - Yes, he was. 76 00:05:55,939 --> 00:05:59,108 I was embarrassed by that flag when I was a kid. 77 00:05:59,109 --> 00:06:00,193 Well, you shouldn't have been. 78 00:06:00,194 --> 00:06:02,403 He was a part of that United States Army. 79 00:06:02,404 --> 00:06:06,574 He was a part of a big group, and he felt that, and he enjoyed that. 80 00:06:06,575 --> 00:06:09,994 You know, they served their country. They... You know? 81 00:06:09,995 --> 00:06:14,416 But, hey, you serve your country don't mean your country's gonna serve you. 82 00:06:16,126 --> 00:06:18,461 Looking back at my confusion and embarrassment 83 00:06:18,462 --> 00:06:20,463 over my father's patriotism, 84 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:24,383 I realize that, like most young people, I thought I understood so much, 85 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:26,011 when, in fact, I knew so little. 86 00:06:27,054 --> 00:06:29,764 The truth is my dad knew exactly what he was doing 87 00:06:29,765 --> 00:06:31,641 when he raised that flag. 88 00:06:31,642 --> 00:06:32,767 He knew that our contributions 89 00:06:32,768 --> 00:06:36,103 to building the richest and most powerful nation in the world 90 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:37,438 were undeniable, 91 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:41,777 and that no people had a greater claim to the American flag than we did. 92 00:06:45,989 --> 00:06:49,242 We laid the foundations of The White House and the Capitol, 93 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:52,036 and lugged the heavy wooden tracks of the railroads 94 00:06:52,037 --> 00:06:53,288 that crisscrossed the South. 95 00:06:54,039 --> 00:06:58,334 The relentless buying, selling, insuring, and financing of our bodies 96 00:06:58,335 --> 00:07:00,294 would help make Wall Street and New York City 97 00:07:00,295 --> 00:07:02,464 a financial capital of the world. 98 00:07:12,015 --> 00:07:14,934 But it would be inaccurate to reduce our contributions 99 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:18,563 to the vast material wealth created by our forced labor. 100 00:07:18,564 --> 00:07:23,402 - We can only stop fighting when all our people are free. 101 00:07:24,486 --> 00:07:27,280 Black Americans have always been foundational 102 00:07:27,281 --> 00:07:28,990 to the idea of American freedom. 103 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:34,204 We have to be that voice. 104 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:37,124 We have to be the change. 105 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:40,544 How would the history books remember you? 106 00:07:42,087 --> 00:07:43,839 What will be your legacy? 107 00:07:47,092 --> 00:07:48,968 Through centuries of resistance, 108 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:52,723 Black Americans have helped the country live up to its founding ideals. 109 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:58,186 Without our idealistic, strenuous, and patriotic efforts, 110 00:07:58,187 --> 00:08:00,689 our democracy today would look very different. 111 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:04,985 In fact, our country might not be a democracy at all. 112 00:08:10,741 --> 00:08:13,534 Our identity as Americans is anchored in the idea 113 00:08:13,535 --> 00:08:15,954 that we are the greatest democracy in the world. 114 00:08:16,622 --> 00:08:18,539 We believe that freedom is, in large part, 115 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:21,042 defined by the right to choose our leaders. 116 00:08:21,043 --> 00:08:23,169 And so, perhaps, more than any other nation, 117 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:26,757 we define citizenship by the ability to cast a ballot. 118 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:31,385 Voting impacts our lives, families, and communities. 119 00:08:31,386 --> 00:08:33,846 It determines what policies we enact, 120 00:08:33,847 --> 00:08:35,848 what we fund and regulate, 121 00:08:35,849 --> 00:08:37,975 what kind of justice we will receive, 122 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:40,312 and, ultimately, what equality looks like. 123 00:08:40,938 --> 00:08:42,356 Voting is power. 124 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,072 And that is why, while calling itself a democracy, 125 00:08:51,073 --> 00:08:55,284 this country has always tried to limit which people are considered citizens 126 00:08:55,285 --> 00:08:56,787 and which people can vote. 127 00:08:57,829 --> 00:09:00,665 And why, after a multiracial coalition of voters 128 00:09:00,666 --> 00:09:03,793 elected the first Black president in 2008, 129 00:09:03,794 --> 00:09:06,003 it spawned the beginnings of a campaign 130 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:09,507 to challenge the validity of certain votes, certain voters, 131 00:09:09,508 --> 00:09:13,804 and ultimately, by 2020, the results of elections themselves. 132 00:09:22,437 --> 00:09:25,940 I just wanted to tell you, team, 133 00:09:25,941 --> 00:09:29,486 that we're glad you are up bright and early. 134 00:09:30,362 --> 00:09:33,155 All of us will have our assignments. 135 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:37,451 So far, there haven't been any problems at any of the polling locations. 136 00:09:37,452 --> 00:09:38,661 You all voted this morning? 137 00:09:38,662 --> 00:09:40,913 - Yup, first time. WOMAN: Where did you vote? 138 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:42,415 - First time? - First time. 139 00:09:49,006 --> 00:09:50,464 I'm Helen Butler, 140 00:09:50,465 --> 00:09:54,552 executive director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples' Agenda. 141 00:09:54,553 --> 00:10:00,266 And I've been working in this civic engagement work since 2000, 142 00:10:00,267 --> 00:10:04,604 but with the Peoples' Agenda, I've been here since 2003. 143 00:10:04,605 --> 00:10:09,442 So it's over two decades of work, uh, to protect the right to vote, 144 00:10:09,443 --> 00:10:11,944 to get people, uh, engaged 145 00:10:11,945 --> 00:10:16,575 and to really have them be participants in the electoral process. 146 00:10:17,492 --> 00:10:19,911 They will call you with all issues. 147 00:10:19,912 --> 00:10:25,918 There will be things that you'll need to escalate to me, to Lyndon, or to Susan. 148 00:10:27,419 --> 00:10:29,754 The Georgia Coalition of the Peoples' Agenda 149 00:10:29,755 --> 00:10:33,592 is a non-partisan organization working to defend the right to vote. 150 00:10:34,301 --> 00:10:38,012 In 2020, they helped mobilize a multiracial group of voters 151 00:10:38,013 --> 00:10:40,264 who, in a perennially red state, 152 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:43,893 chose Democrats for both Senate seats and the presidency. 153 00:10:43,894 --> 00:10:46,854 A move that shifted the balance of power in Washington 154 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:48,523 and prompted President Trump 155 00:10:48,524 --> 00:10:52,693 to infamously call Georgia's Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. 156 00:10:52,694 --> 00:10:54,570 All I want to do is this. 157 00:10:54,571 --> 00:11:00,577 I just want to find 11,780 votes. 158 00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:03,955 By the winter of 2021, 159 00:11:03,956 --> 00:11:07,041 the fight for voting rights had ignited into a pitched battle 160 00:11:07,042 --> 00:11:09,502 after Georgia's Republican-controlled legislature 161 00:11:09,503 --> 00:11:11,296 passed new restrictive voting laws. 162 00:11:12,256 --> 00:11:16,510 - Today, the Department of Justice is suing the state of Georgia. 163 00:11:17,511 --> 00:11:21,806 Our complaint alleges that recent changes to Georgia's election laws 164 00:11:21,807 --> 00:11:26,769 were enacted with the purpose of denying or abridging the right of Black Georgians 165 00:11:26,770 --> 00:11:29,189 to vote on account of their race or color. 166 00:11:31,066 --> 00:11:33,401 By the 2022 mid-term elections, 167 00:11:33,402 --> 00:11:35,611 Helen Butler and her team were on high alert 168 00:11:35,612 --> 00:11:37,573 for any voter disenfranchisement. 169 00:11:40,701 --> 00:11:42,141 Good morning. Peoples' Agenda. 170 00:11:42,703 --> 00:11:43,953 We just got a report 171 00:11:43,954 --> 00:11:49,041 that, uh, because of an issue with the zip codes of some voters, 172 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:51,002 um, this is their assigned voting place, 173 00:11:51,003 --> 00:11:53,337 but they're telling them that they can't vote there. 174 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:54,463 When I get there, 175 00:11:54,464 --> 00:11:57,258 I should ask for the election, um, the poll manager. 176 00:11:57,259 --> 00:11:58,259 Yep. 177 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:00,386 And Anna will meet you there outside as well. 178 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:01,387 Okay. 179 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:06,475 So we are about to head to a polling location, um, in Atlanta. 180 00:12:06,476 --> 00:12:08,227 Apparently, as you heard, 181 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:11,939 um, some of the elderly people in the community have been told 182 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:13,649 that they cannot vote at that location 183 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:17,486 despite that being, um, their designated precinct location. 184 00:12:17,487 --> 00:12:20,698 Um, so we're gonna head there and speak to the poll manager 185 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:22,534 and see if there's anything that we can do. 186 00:12:26,330 --> 00:12:29,081 The Cosby Spear Towers are an affordable housing community 187 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:30,374 in midtown Atlanta 188 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:33,003 for seniors and people living with disabilities. 189 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:41,261 - They told me I could not vote until I do a provisional vote or something 190 00:12:42,221 --> 00:12:48,226 because of the error that they put 30309 for my zip code, 191 00:12:48,227 --> 00:12:50,811 which is 30308. 192 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:54,357 They trying to send me to Hapeville. 193 00:12:54,358 --> 00:12:56,943 Because of what appeared to be a clerical error 194 00:12:56,944 --> 00:12:58,152 that mixed up zip codes, 195 00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:00,905 June Williams and other residents in her building 196 00:13:00,906 --> 00:13:04,284 were being rerouted to a precinct roughly 20 minutes away. 197 00:13:05,244 --> 00:13:07,161 And have you voted at this precinct before? 198 00:13:07,162 --> 00:13:10,332 - Yeah, I vote here every time and never had a problem 'til today. 199 00:13:11,792 --> 00:13:14,252 If Williams wanted to vote at her regular precinct, 200 00:13:14,253 --> 00:13:16,337 she would have to cast a provisional ballot 201 00:13:16,338 --> 00:13:19,424 and a County Board would later determine whether her vote counted. 202 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:22,844 But instead of being able to cast her ballot immediately, 203 00:13:22,845 --> 00:13:24,428 the new restrictive laws required her 204 00:13:24,429 --> 00:13:26,765 to return near the end of the day to do so. 205 00:13:28,684 --> 00:13:30,810 - So, they told them to come back at 5:00. 206 00:13:30,811 --> 00:13:31,979 Once they come at 5:00... 207 00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:34,522 To me, it sounds like they're trying to say, 208 00:13:34,523 --> 00:13:36,816 "Oh, we can guarantee your... your ballot will be casted." 209 00:13:36,817 --> 00:13:37,900 It just doesn't make sense to me. 210 00:13:37,901 --> 00:13:40,027 And what was... It just doesn't make sense. 211 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:42,656 - Lyndon's calling the election office, so hopefully... 212 00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:45,575 It just makes me feel very uncomfortable. 213 00:13:45,576 --> 00:13:46,993 It should not be this hard to vote. 214 00:13:46,994 --> 00:13:49,287 It just does not... Especially considering... 215 00:13:49,288 --> 00:13:50,955 And it kind of brings tears to my eyes 216 00:13:50,956 --> 00:13:53,041 because these people are disabled, you know? 217 00:13:53,792 --> 00:13:54,793 It's just messed up. 218 00:13:55,544 --> 00:13:56,545 Just messed up. 219 00:13:57,171 --> 00:13:59,291 We're gonna fix... We're gonna get it fixed. 220 00:13:59,715 --> 00:14:01,090 My shift was supposed to end at 1:00, 221 00:14:01,091 --> 00:14:03,927 but I'm like, I'll be here 'til ten o'clock if I need to. 222 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,805 Black Americans have always had to fight 223 00:14:07,806 --> 00:14:10,225 to participate in this country's democracy. 224 00:14:10,851 --> 00:14:13,728 And even before that democracy was established, 225 00:14:13,729 --> 00:14:17,315 we were fighting for the very principle that laid its foundation: 226 00:14:17,316 --> 00:14:18,317 freedom. 227 00:14:33,832 --> 00:14:34,916 In this country, 228 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:38,086 we are taught that we are a democracy because of our freedoms. 229 00:14:39,463 --> 00:14:41,423 Freedom of speech, 230 00:14:42,382 --> 00:14:43,509 freedom of religion, 231 00:14:44,259 --> 00:14:45,468 freedom of the press, 232 00:14:45,469 --> 00:14:46,887 the freedom to protest. 233 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:51,516 And our national mythology credits the Founding Fathers 234 00:14:51,517 --> 00:14:54,520 for establishing America as the land of the free. 235 00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:57,021 But even after independence, 236 00:14:57,022 --> 00:15:00,567 white freedom in America was predicated on Black slavery. 237 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:04,738 Black people dreamed of freedom even as they lived without it. 238 00:15:05,322 --> 00:15:07,698 And they fought for freedom for centuries, 239 00:15:07,699 --> 00:15:10,285 all the way back to before our country's founding. 240 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:15,290 It is Black people who have been the perfectors of our democracy. 241 00:15:39,356 --> 00:15:40,857 Slavery would be foundational 242 00:15:40,858 --> 00:15:44,111 to the economy, politics, and laws of the new nation. 243 00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:46,487 And so I've always found it strange 244 00:15:46,488 --> 00:15:50,658 that Black people are so absent from so many historical colonial sites, 245 00:15:50,659 --> 00:15:52,953 our presence virtually erased. 246 00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:56,038 Especially here in Williamsburg, 247 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:57,832 where at the start of the revolution, 248 00:15:57,833 --> 00:16:01,252 enslaved people made up nearly half of the population. 249 00:16:01,253 --> 00:16:04,422 And the question of their freedom sparked a historical event 250 00:16:04,423 --> 00:16:06,924 that created a tipping point in the Southern Colonies 251 00:16:06,925 --> 00:16:08,969 at the dawn of the American Revolution. 252 00:16:10,554 --> 00:16:13,015 Look at this perfect coordination, though. You see this? 253 00:16:13,557 --> 00:16:16,393 - Air Jordans! I... I'm wearing Costco Jordans. 254 00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:19,562 Costco Jordans! Is that a thing? 255 00:16:19,563 --> 00:16:21,105 No. It is now! 256 00:16:23,942 --> 00:16:25,985 I think I wore Costco Jordans the first, 257 00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:27,945 you know, 15 years of my life as a child... 258 00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:29,948 I think you've earned some Airs. 259 00:16:33,535 --> 00:16:38,331 So we are here on the grounds of the Governor's Palace 260 00:16:38,332 --> 00:16:39,999 in Williamsburg, Virginia. 261 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,751 It is the symbol, 262 00:16:41,752 --> 00:16:43,836 the pinnacle of power 263 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:49,467 in the largest British American Colony of Virginia. 264 00:16:49,468 --> 00:16:51,636 It's where the governor resided. 265 00:16:51,637 --> 00:16:56,307 The governor in 1775 was Lord Dunmore, a Scottish Lord. 266 00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:59,852 And he was extremely popular among white Virginians, 267 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:03,648 because he had just led them in a race war against Native Americans 268 00:17:03,649 --> 00:17:06,025 whose land they coveted. 269 00:17:06,026 --> 00:17:08,277 So what changes? 270 00:17:08,278 --> 00:17:11,197 James Madison, who later will write the U.S. Constitution 271 00:17:11,198 --> 00:17:12,782 and become president of the United States, 272 00:17:12,783 --> 00:17:17,745 reported that African Americans had started to hold meetings 273 00:17:17,746 --> 00:17:20,373 to choose who would lead them, 274 00:17:20,374 --> 00:17:22,960 to quote him, "when the English troops should arrive." 275 00:17:26,296 --> 00:17:28,506 In April of 1775, 276 00:17:28,507 --> 00:17:31,759 rumors of slave revolts were running rampant in Virginia, 277 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,054 sparking paranoia among the white colonists. 278 00:17:34,763 --> 00:17:36,348 But Dunmore had other worries. 279 00:17:37,099 --> 00:17:40,351 Even though the fighting had not yet reached the Southern Colonies, 280 00:17:40,352 --> 00:17:42,061 he had become gravely concerned 281 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:45,648 that the growing patriot sentiment stirring in Virginia against the British 282 00:17:45,649 --> 00:17:47,860 might bring the revolution to his front door. 283 00:17:49,027 --> 00:17:51,612 So in order to preemptively deter an attack, 284 00:17:51,613 --> 00:17:55,241 Dunmore confiscated gunpowder in the capital here in Williamsburg 285 00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:56,660 and decided to make a threat. 286 00:17:58,495 --> 00:18:01,414 Governor Dunmore said, "If you touch a hair on my head, 287 00:18:01,415 --> 00:18:04,125 "I will declare freedom to the slaves 288 00:18:04,126 --> 00:18:07,337 and reduce the town of Williamsburg to ashes." 289 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:12,341 He thought, "If I play this card of threatening to free the slaves, 290 00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:13,676 that will scare them off." 291 00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:15,803 That's a serious threat to make. WOODY: That's right. 292 00:18:15,804 --> 00:18:19,891 - Dunmore understands that he's playing into the colonists' kind of gravest fear. 293 00:18:19,892 --> 00:18:20,892 Absolutely. Absolutely. 294 00:18:20,893 --> 00:18:24,854 Jefferson was always worried about a revolution of the wheel of fortune. 295 00:18:24,855 --> 00:18:27,648 That is, we're on top now, but this thing can spin. 296 00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:29,942 - He was just trying to scare the colonists... 297 00:18:29,943 --> 00:18:31,527 - Exactly. - Into not rebelling. 298 00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:33,279 - Exactly. He was... He was playing the race card. 299 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,032 He was using a threat of... of slave insurrection 300 00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:38,618 to scare white colonists into standing down. 301 00:18:38,619 --> 00:18:40,536 While all this is going back and forth 302 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:44,207 between Governor Dunmore and white patriots, 303 00:18:44,208 --> 00:18:46,959 he's issued this threat to free the slaves, 304 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,005 slaves are listening, they heard his threat. 305 00:18:51,006 --> 00:18:53,966 They came and knocked on the door of the Governor's Palace 306 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:57,095 and said, "Here we are, man. You need us. 307 00:18:57,930 --> 00:18:59,430 "We can be great fighters. 308 00:18:59,431 --> 00:19:02,141 All you got to do is promise us our freedom." 309 00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:05,019 And guess what Governor Dunmore said to those enslaved people? 310 00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:06,270 What did he say? 311 00:19:06,271 --> 00:19:07,980 - "Get the hell out of here." NIKOLE: Mmm. 312 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:10,441 - That was an idle threat. You know, we all do that. 313 00:19:10,442 --> 00:19:12,902 We threaten to do things. "I'll take you to court." 314 00:19:12,903 --> 00:19:15,239 It was an idle threat. He... he didn't mean it. 315 00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:18,866 But when enslaved people continued to self-emancipate 316 00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:20,952 and presented themselves to Dunmore, 317 00:19:20,953 --> 00:19:23,329 he saw an opportunity to shore up his ranks 318 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:26,082 by declaring he would free any enslaved person 319 00:19:26,083 --> 00:19:27,960 who agreed to fight against the colonists. 320 00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:34,465 So eventually, this threat that Lord Dunmore makes becomes a reality, 321 00:19:34,466 --> 00:19:38,511 and he actually does issue, uh, an emancipation order, 322 00:19:38,512 --> 00:19:40,681 that we now call Dunmore's Proclamation. 323 00:19:48,063 --> 00:19:50,731 Dunmore issued that emancipation proclamation, 324 00:19:50,732 --> 00:19:52,733 November 1775. 325 00:19:52,734 --> 00:19:57,780 And that emancipation proclamation infuriated white Southerners, 326 00:19:57,781 --> 00:20:02,243 'cause this building is supposed to symbolize white rule over Blacks, 327 00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:06,581 and now the guy inhabiting that building has turned things upside down 328 00:20:06,582 --> 00:20:08,333 and is leading Blacks against whites. 329 00:20:09,585 --> 00:20:11,460 So you have this situation 330 00:20:11,461 --> 00:20:15,590 where many Virginians and other Southern colonists, 331 00:20:15,591 --> 00:20:19,802 they're not really convinced that they want to side with the patriots. 332 00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:24,391 And this turns many of them, um, towards the Revolution, is that right? 333 00:20:24,892 --> 00:20:26,976 If you ask them, it did. 334 00:20:26,977 --> 00:20:28,644 The record is absolutely clear. 335 00:20:28,645 --> 00:20:32,398 I can't think of a point that I could make about the American Revolution 336 00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:38,404 where I could compile as many quotes as I can from white Southerners 337 00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:41,699 saying how furious they are at Governor Dunmore. 338 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:43,117 Some of them said, 339 00:20:43,118 --> 00:20:45,870 "There's... There's no other expedient you could have thought of 340 00:20:45,871 --> 00:20:48,832 that was as likely as this to turn us against you." 341 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:51,584 Further enraging the white colonists, 342 00:20:51,585 --> 00:20:54,712 Dunmore created the all-Black Ethiopian Regiment 343 00:20:54,713 --> 00:20:57,423 who fought the patriots at The Battle of Kemp's Landing 344 00:20:57,424 --> 00:20:59,800 just outside of Norfolk, Virginia. 345 00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:02,304 And the Ethiopian Regiment won. 346 00:21:03,597 --> 00:21:06,140 By the fall of 1776, 347 00:21:06,141 --> 00:21:09,186 approximately 1,000 enslaved people had joined Dunmore. 348 00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:11,437 This understanding of the role 349 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:13,648 that Black people played in the Revolutionary War, 350 00:21:13,649 --> 00:21:16,067 why is there so much pushback? 351 00:21:16,068 --> 00:21:19,362 This is just historical fact, so why... 352 00:21:19,363 --> 00:21:21,072 Why do we have so much pushback? 353 00:21:21,073 --> 00:21:25,952 - Yeah. It... It astonishes me as well, because it just seems so obvious 354 00:21:25,953 --> 00:21:29,038 that both economically and politically, 355 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,625 enslaved people were at the center of the story. 356 00:21:32,125 --> 00:21:35,044 I would say... I think if... If slaves had been as passive 357 00:21:35,045 --> 00:21:38,673 as I was taught they were in Virginia schools in 1960s, 358 00:21:38,674 --> 00:21:41,425 then the Revolution might not ever have come to the South. 359 00:21:41,426 --> 00:21:43,762 And you can't win the Revolution without the South. 360 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:48,599 The way we are taught our history 361 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,019 has a lot to do with how we are supposed to think about our democracy, 362 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:55,357 how we think about who built it and who should benefit most from it. 363 00:21:57,276 --> 00:21:58,734 When I was a student in Iowa, 364 00:21:58,735 --> 00:22:01,821 for the most part, the America revealed to me in my education, 365 00:22:01,822 --> 00:22:04,658 in museums, and in monuments, was a white one. 366 00:22:05,993 --> 00:22:07,910 And yet my world, my neighborhood, 367 00:22:07,911 --> 00:22:09,579 my friends, the aunts and uncles 368 00:22:09,580 --> 00:22:12,206 who crowded our home for barbecues and card games 369 00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:13,500 was largely Black. 370 00:22:16,003 --> 00:22:18,254 I searched desperately to find our people, 371 00:22:18,255 --> 00:22:20,757 to find myself in the American story. 372 00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:24,468 Except for the occasional passing reference to our enslavement 373 00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:26,429 and the Civil Rights Movement, 374 00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:28,806 the story of America that I learned made it seem 375 00:22:28,807 --> 00:22:31,977 that Black people had not contributed much of value to this land. 376 00:22:32,811 --> 00:22:36,315 And so for most of my life, I never felt fully American. 377 00:22:37,232 --> 00:22:39,233 But then, when I was a high school student, 378 00:22:39,234 --> 00:22:40,943 I took a Black Studies course. 379 00:22:40,944 --> 00:22:44,071 And Mr. Ray Dial, the only Black male teacher I ever had, 380 00:22:44,072 --> 00:22:47,200 gave me a book that told the story of the year 1619, 381 00:22:47,201 --> 00:22:49,119 the beginning of American slavery. 382 00:22:50,287 --> 00:22:52,997 I remember feeling angry that no one had bothered to teach us 383 00:22:52,998 --> 00:22:56,501 that Africans and slavery were here before the Mayflower, 384 00:22:56,502 --> 00:22:57,502 and then empowered 385 00:22:57,503 --> 00:23:00,672 that our lineage as Black Americans went back that far. 386 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:03,132 I was 15 years old 387 00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:06,677 and had no idea how those emotions would fuel a quest for the truth 388 00:23:06,678 --> 00:23:08,221 that would shape my life, 389 00:23:08,222 --> 00:23:09,931 a quest to understand a country 390 00:23:09,932 --> 00:23:13,810 that the history we had been taught did not, could not explain. 391 00:23:17,648 --> 00:23:22,026 - Please welcome back Pulitzer Prize winner Nikole Hannah-Jones. 392 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:25,738 As the project's success grew, 393 00:23:25,739 --> 00:23:27,990 it became a target of conservative politicians. 394 00:23:27,991 --> 00:23:30,117 - You know, the... the whole project is a lie. 395 00:23:30,118 --> 00:23:32,620 The 1619 Project 396 00:23:32,621 --> 00:23:35,122 and the crusade against American history 397 00:23:35,123 --> 00:23:37,124 is toxic propaganda. 398 00:23:40,045 --> 00:23:42,505 The backlash had real consequences. 399 00:23:42,506 --> 00:23:44,632 As of October 2022, 400 00:23:44,633 --> 00:23:46,843 there were at least 33 state-level efforts, 401 00:23:46,844 --> 00:23:48,678 as well as a federal bill, 402 00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:52,557 seeking to restrict educators from teaching The 1619 Project 403 00:23:52,558 --> 00:23:54,892 or discussing systemic racism. 404 00:23:54,893 --> 00:23:58,479 - Nevada groups, they want teachers there to wear body cameras 405 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,189 so they can monitor what they are teaching 406 00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:03,318 to make sure that they're not teaching things like The 1619 Project. 407 00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:08,531 1619-related curricula banned in Texas, banned in Florida. 408 00:24:08,532 --> 00:24:11,869 And while the backlash to the project may seem surprising to some, 409 00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:15,496 the truth is, the fight to include slavery and Black contributions 410 00:24:15,497 --> 00:24:17,790 in the full story of America 411 00:24:17,791 --> 00:24:21,503 mirrors the fight to include Black Americans in democracy itself. 412 00:24:22,129 --> 00:24:24,798 And that is a fight that stretches back centuries. 413 00:24:39,479 --> 00:24:41,814 Through 250 years of slavery, 414 00:24:41,815 --> 00:24:44,483 Black Americans resisted their bondage. 415 00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:47,362 They continually plotted, rebelled, and escaped. 416 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:49,280 Some of those who ran away 417 00:24:49,281 --> 00:24:51,657 found safe haven in Brooklyn's Plymouth Church, 418 00:24:51,658 --> 00:24:54,995 a place often called the Grand Depot of the Underground Railroad. 419 00:24:56,371 --> 00:25:00,791 In 1860, then-presidential candidate Abraham Lincoln prayed there 420 00:25:00,792 --> 00:25:02,418 before giving a campaign speech 421 00:25:02,419 --> 00:25:05,671 outlining his plan to limit the expansion of slavery, 422 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:08,008 an issue that would define his presidency. 423 00:25:09,885 --> 00:25:14,180 So in 1862, a year into the Civil War, President Lincoln... 424 00:25:14,181 --> 00:25:17,767 This is before he issues the emancipation, but he's considering it. 425 00:25:17,768 --> 00:25:22,396 Lincoln invites a delegation of five Black men to the White House. 426 00:25:22,397 --> 00:25:25,066 What is this meeting about? What happens? 427 00:25:25,067 --> 00:25:28,069 - So Lincoln is contemplating emancipation. 428 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:29,779 And so what he believes 429 00:25:29,780 --> 00:25:33,950 is that if he can convince Black people to leave the United States, 430 00:25:33,951 --> 00:25:37,537 then it'll be easier to get the white majority to accept emancipation. 431 00:25:37,538 --> 00:25:40,248 So what Lincoln does in that conversation 432 00:25:40,249 --> 00:25:45,127 is try to guilt, insult, do anything he can 433 00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:48,798 to persuade the Black folks who were there in that meeting 434 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:50,425 to leave the United States. 435 00:25:51,093 --> 00:25:54,887 And what they are very clear on is that they are not going to leave. 436 00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:56,639 Robert Purvis says, 437 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,184 "Sir, this is our country as much as it is yours, 438 00:26:00,185 --> 00:26:02,019 and we will not leave it." 439 00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:04,021 And Purvis isn't alone on that. 440 00:26:04,022 --> 00:26:06,274 The vast majority of the Black population, 441 00:26:06,275 --> 00:26:10,695 the free Black population even, said, "No. We're not going anywhere." 442 00:26:10,696 --> 00:26:15,157 Frederick Douglass said, "We were with you when you arrived on these shores. 443 00:26:15,158 --> 00:26:17,076 "We leveled your forests. 444 00:26:17,077 --> 00:26:20,122 "Our blood, sweat, and tears are in this soil. 445 00:26:20,706 --> 00:26:21,998 "We've been with you, 446 00:26:21,999 --> 00:26:25,294 and we are going to be with you in the future." 447 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,589 Instead of promising to leave the land of their birth, 448 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:30,965 Black men pushed Lincoln 449 00:26:30,966 --> 00:26:33,718 to let them sign up to fight in the Union army. 450 00:26:33,719 --> 00:26:36,180 And desperate, Lincoln finally did. 451 00:26:36,638 --> 00:26:40,474 As W.E.B. Du Bois wrote, "The North had to call in the Black men 452 00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:44,354 to save the Union, abolish slavery, and establish democracy." 453 00:26:45,772 --> 00:26:49,192 And amid the ruin and devastation of this nation's deadliest war, 454 00:26:49,193 --> 00:26:51,319 in an era known as Reconstruction, 455 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,032 this country finally began to try to redeem the grave sin of slavery. 456 00:26:56,366 --> 00:26:59,035 These newly emancipated people pushed lawmakers 457 00:26:59,036 --> 00:27:02,872 to pass the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment: 458 00:27:02,873 --> 00:27:04,290 Abolishing slavery; 459 00:27:04,291 --> 00:27:06,792 guaranteeing equal protection under the law; 460 00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:11,506 and citizenship not just for Black people but for any person born on American soil; 461 00:27:11,507 --> 00:27:14,551 and making it illegal to deny voting rights based on race. 462 00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:17,178 In this moment of rebirth, 463 00:27:17,179 --> 00:27:20,973 Black Americans embraced democracy and its promises of equality 464 00:27:20,974 --> 00:27:22,141 with the type of fervor 465 00:27:22,142 --> 00:27:24,853 that comes from living so long with no freedom at all. 466 00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:31,067 What they want after slavery is over is justice, 467 00:27:31,068 --> 00:27:32,903 and they go about building it. 468 00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:35,238 They knew that if Black people 469 00:27:35,239 --> 00:27:38,533 enjoyed all of these rights, privileges, and protections, 470 00:27:38,534 --> 00:27:41,494 then all Americans would be able to enjoy them. 471 00:27:41,495 --> 00:27:44,205 And that's the beauty of who they were as a people. 472 00:27:44,206 --> 00:27:47,500 - We know how the story of Reconstruction ends. 473 00:27:47,501 --> 00:27:50,461 A deal is struck that if, um, 474 00:27:50,462 --> 00:27:53,381 Rutherford B. Hayes can get the presidency, 475 00:27:53,382 --> 00:27:56,801 then he will agree to withdraw the federal troops from the South. 476 00:27:56,802 --> 00:27:58,386 And in doing so, 477 00:27:58,387 --> 00:28:02,098 he leaves these newly freed people 478 00:28:02,099 --> 00:28:05,017 to the mercy of their former enslavers. 479 00:28:05,018 --> 00:28:10,190 Can you talk about, um, what happens in that period when Reconstruction ends? 480 00:28:10,691 --> 00:28:13,025 - And so what we see over the next 25 years 481 00:28:13,026 --> 00:28:16,779 is whites in the South constructing the new order. 482 00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:19,449 And this new order will be what we call Jim Crow. 483 00:28:19,992 --> 00:28:23,411 But they can't construct it until they disfranchise Black men, 484 00:28:23,412 --> 00:28:26,290 which is what they spend the next decade trying to do. 485 00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:31,794 White men in power passed new allegedly race-neutral laws 486 00:28:31,795 --> 00:28:33,422 to get around the 15th Amendment. 487 00:28:34,173 --> 00:28:35,423 Grandfather clauses said 488 00:28:35,424 --> 00:28:37,758 you could only vote if your grandfather had, 489 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,345 but most Black men's grandfathers had been enslaved. 490 00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:42,471 Slavery had ensured 491 00:28:42,472 --> 00:28:45,933 most Black people entered freedom illiterate and impoverished, 492 00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:50,189 so white officials instituted literacy tests and poll taxes to vote. 493 00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:56,903 I... I think it can't be overstated 494 00:28:56,904 --> 00:29:00,072 how much violence Black Americans were subjected to 495 00:29:00,073 --> 00:29:01,074 during that period. 496 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,868 So we saw that during Reconstruction, 497 00:29:03,869 --> 00:29:07,914 but we also saw that in 1898, in places like Wilmington, North Carolina, 498 00:29:07,915 --> 00:29:12,418 where the democratically elected government is overthrown 499 00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:15,213 by white mobs rampaging through the city. 500 00:29:15,214 --> 00:29:18,007 And they had held on to the promise of Reconstruction 501 00:29:18,008 --> 00:29:20,010 for much longer than anyone else had. 502 00:29:20,594 --> 00:29:22,512 And it has a chilling effect. 503 00:29:22,513 --> 00:29:24,555 Not only massacres like Wilmington, 504 00:29:24,556 --> 00:29:28,435 but also widespread lynching throughout the region. 505 00:29:29,144 --> 00:29:32,980 And lynchers are not targeting Black people 506 00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:35,775 who are committing crimes against them. 507 00:29:35,776 --> 00:29:38,778 They're targeting Black people who are successful, 508 00:29:38,779 --> 00:29:40,154 who are prosperous, 509 00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:43,325 and who won't stand down and submit to white supremacy. 510 00:30:00,217 --> 00:30:03,845 This picture is essentially for Americans, 511 00:30:03,846 --> 00:30:05,889 people who call themselves American. 512 00:30:08,267 --> 00:30:11,144 It begins with the painful and hard-felled assumption 513 00:30:11,854 --> 00:30:14,398 that we are not an island of perfection, 514 00:30:15,107 --> 00:30:19,736 but in fact, a land of imperfection in an imperfect world. 515 00:30:21,572 --> 00:30:24,699 Negroes are trying to register to vote 516 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,662 and help to change the situation that they're existing under today. 517 00:30:29,371 --> 00:30:33,083 Help to bring about democracy in our land today. 518 00:30:34,418 --> 00:30:36,210 The system of racial apartheid 519 00:30:36,211 --> 00:30:39,130 that was created after Reconstruction was so savage 520 00:30:39,131 --> 00:30:41,549 that Nazi Germany would take inspiration from it 521 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:43,427 for its own racist policies. 522 00:30:44,094 --> 00:30:46,971 But Black Americans would never stop fighting 523 00:30:46,972 --> 00:30:48,223 to democratize America. 524 00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:53,311 Black Americans have always believed in this nation 525 00:30:53,312 --> 00:30:55,313 with a faith it did not deserve, 526 00:30:55,314 --> 00:30:59,442 risking and losing our lives, generation after generation, 527 00:30:59,443 --> 00:31:01,987 to make this country what it already claimed to be. 528 00:31:02,738 --> 00:31:06,073 And nowhere was the fight for democracy more dangerous 529 00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:08,410 than in my father's home state of Mississippi. 530 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:10,621 Well, hi there. 531 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,540 MacArthur Cotton was born just three years before my father 532 00:31:14,541 --> 00:31:16,043 and about 50 miles away. 533 00:31:16,919 --> 00:31:21,590 I was born in April 23, 1942. 534 00:31:22,508 --> 00:31:25,551 I was a person who championed the underdog. 535 00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:31,016 So it was just a natural thing that I would want to be in the movement 536 00:31:31,892 --> 00:31:35,686 because, uh, the choice to me was, 537 00:31:35,687 --> 00:31:39,190 you know, accepting things like they were. 538 00:31:39,191 --> 00:31:41,151 And that wasn't much of a choice. 539 00:31:43,028 --> 00:31:46,864 This is one of the pictures that a friend sent to me 540 00:31:46,865 --> 00:31:49,618 when we were in SNCC. 541 00:31:50,327 --> 00:31:56,124 This... This should be about '63, I believe, when it was taken. 542 00:32:04,258 --> 00:32:07,845 In the fall of 1962, a group of students arrived in Greenwood. 543 00:32:08,595 --> 00:32:10,721 They came to organize the Negro population, 544 00:32:10,722 --> 00:32:12,349 to spread the word of the new gospel. 545 00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:14,892 They called themselves SNCC: 546 00:32:14,893 --> 00:32:17,020 the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. 547 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:23,818 In the 1960s, 548 00:32:23,819 --> 00:32:26,780 Greenwood, Mississippi, became a battleground for voting rights. 549 00:32:27,322 --> 00:32:30,491 At the time, Leflore County was more than two-thirds Black 550 00:32:30,492 --> 00:32:33,411 but only five percent of the Black voting-age population 551 00:32:33,412 --> 00:32:34,621 was registered to vote. 552 00:32:35,873 --> 00:32:38,749 And in a state where nearly half the population was Black, 553 00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:42,086 there was not a single Black elected official in the State House 554 00:32:42,087 --> 00:32:43,839 or in U.S. Congress. 555 00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:51,053 Thank you, Mr. Cotton, for meeting with us today. 556 00:32:51,054 --> 00:32:54,015 Let's start by just telling where we are sitting. 557 00:32:54,016 --> 00:32:55,558 Where... Where are we right now? 558 00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,270 - Well, we are in Leflore County Courthouse 559 00:32:59,271 --> 00:33:01,147 in Greenwood, Mississippi. 560 00:33:01,148 --> 00:33:04,567 So how... How does a young Black man decide 561 00:33:04,568 --> 00:33:08,030 that he's going to get involved with the Civil Rights Movement here? 562 00:33:09,239 --> 00:33:15,204 - Well, uh, I was always taught, uh, civic responsibility. 563 00:33:15,704 --> 00:33:18,915 It was a civic thing to do. The right thing to do. 564 00:33:18,916 --> 00:33:21,710 - I had no interest in being a slave, so. - Mm. 565 00:33:25,339 --> 00:33:28,841 MacArthur Cotton was a student working in the Tougaloo College Library 566 00:33:28,842 --> 00:33:31,761 when the legendary civil rights activist Bob Moses 567 00:33:31,762 --> 00:33:32,845 recruited him to join 568 00:33:32,846 --> 00:33:35,097 the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, 569 00:33:35,098 --> 00:33:36,600 also known as SNCC. 570 00:33:37,184 --> 00:33:40,979 At the time, SNCC was making a big push to register Black voters in the South. 571 00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:43,940 Cotton eventually left Tougaloo 572 00:33:43,941 --> 00:33:46,317 to work full-time in the Civil Rights Movement. 573 00:33:46,318 --> 00:33:49,862 He sacrificed his college degree to fight for democracy, 574 00:33:49,863 --> 00:33:51,989 eventually becoming a field secretary 575 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:54,201 for the Greenwood voter registration project. 576 00:33:56,411 --> 00:33:57,954 You know, in the back of my head, 577 00:33:57,955 --> 00:34:01,749 I thought that we probably would be able to register people to vote. 578 00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:05,920 I didn't expect, uh, the kind of opposition that we had, 579 00:34:05,921 --> 00:34:08,423 even though I knew it wasn't going to be easy. 580 00:34:09,007 --> 00:34:13,803 But, uh, after a while, we found out it was almost impossible. 581 00:34:13,804 --> 00:34:17,098 - Why was it that so few Black people were registered to vote here? 582 00:34:17,099 --> 00:34:19,016 What type of opposition did they face? 583 00:34:19,017 --> 00:34:20,768 - State-sponsored terror. 584 00:34:20,769 --> 00:34:23,980 You know, just straight out, they... they killed people 585 00:34:23,981 --> 00:34:24,982 for trying to register. 586 00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:34,156 I read some of Bob Moses' reports, 587 00:34:34,157 --> 00:34:37,660 and he said that Greenwood was a hardcore resistance area, 588 00:34:37,661 --> 00:34:40,079 that almost no progress had been made here 589 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,250 after at least two years or more of intensive organizing, 590 00:34:44,251 --> 00:34:46,752 and even the SNCC offices were bombed. 591 00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,588 They were burned. MACARTHUR: Of course. Burned. 592 00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:49,922 They were shot up. 593 00:34:49,923 --> 00:34:52,300 Um, and you're entering into that 594 00:34:52,301 --> 00:34:54,928 to try to... To reinforce the local efforts. 595 00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:57,138 We expected that. 596 00:34:57,139 --> 00:35:02,685 We knew that, uh, there would be bombings and shootings and... We knew that. 597 00:35:02,686 --> 00:35:06,689 You know, we always hoped that it didn't happen to us, 598 00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:09,276 but we knew that that was a possibility. 599 00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:12,070 So we could have retreated, 600 00:35:12,863 --> 00:35:16,616 which we didn't feel like that was an option. 601 00:35:16,617 --> 00:35:18,326 - So... - You say that so calmly now. 602 00:35:18,327 --> 00:35:20,578 Were you... Were you calm about it back then? 603 00:35:20,579 --> 00:35:22,788 - Probably even more so. - Really? 604 00:35:22,789 --> 00:35:26,375 - Yeah. You know, when you're 18 or 19 or 20, 605 00:35:26,376 --> 00:35:28,127 - you're invincible anyway. - Mmm. 606 00:35:28,128 --> 00:35:29,921 You think about what you want to do. 607 00:35:29,922 --> 00:35:32,590 You don't think about the consequences as much 608 00:35:32,591 --> 00:35:35,676 even though, you know, we were intelligent enough to know that, 609 00:35:35,677 --> 00:35:41,308 you know, there were terrorists and all kind of opposition. 610 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,979 Cotton and his fellow activists came up with a strategy 611 00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:48,689 to overwhelm the system. 612 00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:52,485 In June of 1963, they turned up at the county courthouse 613 00:35:52,486 --> 00:35:55,739 with a group of local Black residents who dared register to vote. 614 00:36:00,077 --> 00:36:03,996 Our idea was to, you know, maybe double that the next day, 615 00:36:03,997 --> 00:36:05,581 and on and on, 616 00:36:05,582 --> 00:36:09,752 until we got some kind of concession from somebody. 617 00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:10,754 Okay. 618 00:36:11,463 --> 00:36:12,463 And what happens? 619 00:36:12,464 --> 00:36:14,967 So you... you go in, you march up here, and what happens? 620 00:36:15,634 --> 00:36:19,053 So we got to... As they began to go in, 621 00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:20,763 I think they took a couple of them in 622 00:36:20,764 --> 00:36:25,519 and then they say, uh, "Well, we're closing the courthouse for lunch, 623 00:36:26,603 --> 00:36:27,979 so y'all gotta get out." 624 00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:32,401 So we... we refused to, uh, leave. 625 00:36:33,527 --> 00:36:35,195 So they, uh, arrested us. 626 00:36:37,281 --> 00:36:40,825 After the Sheriff's office arrested Cotton and the other SNCC leaders, 627 00:36:40,826 --> 00:36:44,371 they were fined and initially sentenced to four months of hard labor. 628 00:36:45,122 --> 00:36:47,123 But instead of staying on the County Penal Farm 629 00:36:47,124 --> 00:36:48,541 for their full sentence, 630 00:36:48,542 --> 00:36:51,336 partway through, they were transferred to State prison. 631 00:36:52,337 --> 00:36:53,796 So they take you to Parchman? 632 00:36:53,797 --> 00:36:57,884 Was one of the worst places to be in America. 633 00:36:57,885 --> 00:36:59,594 Right. That's what it's supposed to be. 634 00:36:59,595 --> 00:37:05,391 And I think part of that, you know, they inst... instill fear in people. 635 00:37:05,392 --> 00:37:09,604 And, uh, I think it kind of bothered them that we didn't care. 636 00:37:09,605 --> 00:37:11,315 That didn't scare you at all? 637 00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:16,152 - Well... Well, you know, really, we, uh, we were living in Parchman. 638 00:37:16,153 --> 00:37:18,989 We couldn't st... We couldn't stand up to the courthouse. 639 00:37:19,656 --> 00:37:22,576 We couldn't walk down the street without being harassed, so. 640 00:37:23,202 --> 00:37:26,454 You know, it wasn't... It wasn't a big change, you know, 641 00:37:26,455 --> 00:37:28,331 from being inside or outside. 642 00:37:28,332 --> 00:37:31,585 - Talk about Parchman. What... What was your experience there? 643 00:37:33,128 --> 00:37:36,089 - We were on... on death row. 644 00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:38,799 - So they housed you with the... - Yeah. 645 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,092 With the death row inmates? 646 00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:41,887 Right, that's where we were kept. 647 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,059 Activists faced extreme violence and deprivation at Parchman. 648 00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,978 Cotton told me of the brutality he experienced 649 00:37:50,979 --> 00:37:54,274 after he asked for food that another inmate had refused. 650 00:37:56,693 --> 00:38:00,196 They hung me, uh, stretched me, uh, 651 00:38:00,197 --> 00:38:01,532 at the top of my tiptoes 652 00:38:02,324 --> 00:38:06,410 and hung me, uh, to the bars by my wrists, 653 00:38:06,411 --> 00:38:07,704 you know, put handcuffs... 654 00:38:09,373 --> 00:38:10,623 So they tortured you. 655 00:38:10,624 --> 00:38:12,917 - Of course. That was the name of the game. 656 00:38:12,918 --> 00:38:17,255 They might would've let me stay there until, you know, until I perished. 657 00:38:17,256 --> 00:38:19,633 I don't know. But just so happened, 658 00:38:20,425 --> 00:38:22,678 the International Council of Churches, 659 00:38:23,887 --> 00:38:25,013 uh, came 660 00:38:26,181 --> 00:38:28,267 to investigate. 661 00:38:28,684 --> 00:38:32,354 So their representatives came and saw me hanging. 662 00:38:32,771 --> 00:38:37,400 And of course, by then, my clothes was full of feces and all. 663 00:38:37,401 --> 00:38:41,989 Maybe that... that was the straw that broke the camel's back. 664 00:38:42,573 --> 00:38:44,366 And they were able to bail us out. 665 00:38:48,579 --> 00:38:50,413 - I'm so sorry. I don't... 666 00:38:50,414 --> 00:38:51,623 It's okay. 667 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,251 You should be glad. 668 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,503 You should be glad that we had to sacrifice 669 00:38:57,504 --> 00:38:59,339 to... to do what we had to do. 670 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,760 'Cause... somebody had to do it. 671 00:39:04,761 --> 00:39:07,139 And, hey, I'm still here. 672 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:13,311 - We've seen the Voting Rights Act of 1965 gutted by a conservative Supreme Court. 673 00:39:13,312 --> 00:39:18,316 We've seen, in the last year and a half, more voter suppression laws passed. 674 00:39:18,317 --> 00:39:23,279 I just wonder, how do we think about the challenge for democracy ahead, 675 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,284 understanding that history, and what's your fear? 676 00:39:28,869 --> 00:39:29,995 Mmm. 677 00:39:32,539 --> 00:39:35,083 That I won't be here long enough to see it. 678 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:37,085 That's one thing, but, uh... 679 00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:39,671 It... 680 00:39:40,506 --> 00:39:44,551 Well, for people who were paying attention 681 00:39:45,802 --> 00:39:47,887 and understood, 682 00:39:47,888 --> 00:39:49,890 the opposition never quit fighting. 683 00:39:50,766 --> 00:39:56,354 So actually it wasn't that much change in the mind or heart. 684 00:39:56,355 --> 00:39:58,941 So, just, you know, the struggle continues. 685 00:40:00,025 --> 00:40:02,277 And it... it will always 686 00:40:03,278 --> 00:40:04,278 be a fight. 687 00:40:04,279 --> 00:40:05,906 Democracy is a fight. 688 00:40:12,579 --> 00:40:15,122 Just weeks after his release from Parchman prison, 689 00:40:15,123 --> 00:40:17,792 MacArthur Cotton set on his way to the nation's capital... 690 00:40:17,793 --> 00:40:21,796 We are requesting all citizens to move into Washington. 691 00:40:21,797 --> 00:40:23,881 where he joined a quarter million people 692 00:40:23,882 --> 00:40:25,424 from across the country. 693 00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:29,387 Go by plane, by car, walk if necessary. 694 00:40:29,388 --> 00:40:34,976 We are pushing for jobs, housing, desegregated schools. 695 00:40:34,977 --> 00:40:36,519 This is an urgent request. 696 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,605 Please join. Go to Washington. 697 00:40:39,356 --> 00:40:42,692 On that hot August day in 1963, 698 00:40:42,693 --> 00:40:44,485 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke 699 00:40:44,486 --> 00:40:47,698 to Black American commitment to the democratic process. 700 00:40:50,284 --> 00:40:54,454 There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America 701 00:40:55,247 --> 00:40:59,250 until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. 702 00:40:59,251 --> 00:41:00,251 Two years later, 703 00:41:00,252 --> 00:41:02,753 after countless activists had been violently beaten 704 00:41:02,754 --> 00:41:04,338 and many others murdered, 705 00:41:04,339 --> 00:41:07,842 Congress passed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, 706 00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:10,720 forcing the South to stop violating the Constitution 707 00:41:10,721 --> 00:41:12,847 by denying Black people the right to vote 708 00:41:12,848 --> 00:41:16,685 and enforcing the century-old rights promised in the 15th Amendment. 709 00:41:17,644 --> 00:41:21,063 Black Americans, just as they had right after the Civil War, 710 00:41:21,064 --> 00:41:25,777 helped expand legal equality and democracy for all Americans. 711 00:41:36,038 --> 00:41:38,289 With the balance of Congress once again at stake 712 00:41:38,290 --> 00:41:40,666 in the 2022 midterm election, 713 00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:44,295 Mary-Pat Hector was trying to resolve the issue at the Cosby Spear Towers 714 00:41:44,296 --> 00:41:47,256 that was routing residents to another polling location 715 00:41:47,257 --> 00:41:48,759 about 20 minutes away. 716 00:41:49,301 --> 00:41:51,594 - I mean, Hapeville... That just seems ridiculous. 717 00:41:51,595 --> 00:41:53,596 And there's another polling site right here at the... 718 00:41:53,597 --> 00:41:55,932 Back at headquarters, Helen Butler worked the phones 719 00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:58,518 with the Fulton County election board representative, 720 00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,771 who confirmed the County had made a mistake. 721 00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:04,482 - All right. Thank you. So I'll get it taken... 722 00:42:04,483 --> 00:42:06,485 So they were in the wrong precinct? 723 00:42:07,194 --> 00:42:08,194 Yes. 724 00:42:08,195 --> 00:42:10,071 - Okay. All right. - Okay. Okay. 725 00:42:10,072 --> 00:42:12,072 - Okay. Thank you. - Mm-hmm. 726 00:42:14,952 --> 00:42:16,369 Hey, Ms. Helen, you talked to her? 727 00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:17,204 Yes. 728 00:42:17,205 --> 00:42:19,038 Uh, what's the update? 729 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,209 - They're voting a regular ballot on the voting machine. 730 00:42:22,793 --> 00:42:27,463 If a poll worker tells them that they have to vote provisionally, 731 00:42:27,464 --> 00:42:29,298 ask for the poll manager, 732 00:42:29,299 --> 00:42:32,969 and the poll manager will get it corrected. 733 00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:34,679 All right. Thank you so much, Ms. Helen. 734 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,389 So, I... I can leave? 735 00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:37,807 You can leave. 736 00:42:37,808 --> 00:42:39,225 Okay. Thank you very much. 737 00:42:39,226 --> 00:42:41,478 All right. Okay, bye. 738 00:42:42,271 --> 00:42:45,064 They can. They can. Yep. Everything is good. 739 00:42:45,065 --> 00:42:47,149 So I'm about to leave and go back to the office. 740 00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:49,026 That's a win. Small wins count. 741 00:42:49,027 --> 00:42:51,529 All right. Very... Small wins really do count. 742 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:53,991 So thank you. I really appreciate it. 743 00:42:55,492 --> 00:42:59,161 Yeah, so myself and some volunteers went over there, 744 00:42:59,162 --> 00:43:01,414 knocked on every door in that building 745 00:43:01,415 --> 00:43:04,000 that was impacted by the error this morning, 746 00:43:04,001 --> 00:43:06,294 just to make sure all of the residents knew 747 00:43:06,295 --> 00:43:09,882 that if they were turned around that they can come back and vote. 748 00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:14,177 And while June Williams finally cast her ballot, 749 00:43:14,178 --> 00:43:16,388 the mistake felt all too familiar. 750 00:43:17,764 --> 00:43:18,848 Speaking with Miss June 751 00:43:18,849 --> 00:43:21,726 and hearing how she's actually been a part of the Civil Rights Movement 752 00:43:21,727 --> 00:43:23,769 and actually lived in those times, 753 00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:27,857 uh, where it, in her own words, feels like a repeat. 754 00:43:27,858 --> 00:43:30,401 But to see her go the extra mile 755 00:43:30,402 --> 00:43:33,279 and say, "I will sit out this door until seven o'clock 756 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,739 because I'm going to vote." 757 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:39,327 Um, I think she really charged my generation to have that same tenacity 758 00:43:39,328 --> 00:43:41,037 and do what needs to be done 759 00:43:41,038 --> 00:43:43,665 to correct whatever wrongs that may be happening. 760 00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:47,793 For nearly 50 years, 761 00:43:47,794 --> 00:43:50,755 the Voting Rights Act that protected Williams' generation 762 00:43:50,756 --> 00:43:54,885 was reauthorized with bipartisan support from Congress and the White House. 763 00:43:55,511 --> 00:44:00,431 - So Bush actually signed the last reauthorization 764 00:44:00,432 --> 00:44:02,684 of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. 765 00:44:03,393 --> 00:44:06,395 I got a personal invitation from George Bush. 766 00:44:06,396 --> 00:44:09,691 That's... The red ticket is my ticket to the event. 767 00:44:10,275 --> 00:44:13,070 We were out on the lawn of the White House. 768 00:44:13,946 --> 00:44:17,156 And in the middle, we got to take our picture, 769 00:44:17,157 --> 00:44:19,325 our little Georgia delegation. 770 00:44:19,326 --> 00:44:24,915 So it... it is us there, uh, enjoying the moment. 771 00:44:25,249 --> 00:44:30,963 But of course, we know Shelby v. Holder changed that in 2013. 772 00:44:31,713 --> 00:44:34,966 After President Obama won a second term in 2012, 773 00:44:34,967 --> 00:44:36,133 the Supreme Court, 774 00:44:36,134 --> 00:44:39,053 determining the nation had largely moved on from the racism 775 00:44:39,054 --> 00:44:41,472 that had once made the Voting Rights Act necessary, 776 00:44:41,473 --> 00:44:44,141 overturned key protections in the law. 777 00:44:44,142 --> 00:44:48,813 The decision invalidating a section of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 778 00:44:48,814 --> 00:44:50,773 deeply divided the justices, 779 00:44:50,774 --> 00:44:53,317 but it rested on a simple premise. 780 00:44:53,318 --> 00:44:55,778 As Chief Justice John Roberts said, 781 00:44:55,779 --> 00:44:59,658 "Nearly 50 years later, things have changed dramatically." 782 00:45:00,492 --> 00:45:03,286 Following the ruling, by the 2016 election, 783 00:45:03,287 --> 00:45:06,664 14 states had enacted new redistricting plans 784 00:45:06,665 --> 00:45:08,374 or new restrictions on voting 785 00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:12,295 that, before, would have required preapproval by the Justice Department. 786 00:45:12,296 --> 00:45:15,089 And just like the laws passed during Jim Crow, 787 00:45:15,090 --> 00:45:17,758 these new laws were allegedly race-neutral. 788 00:45:17,759 --> 00:45:19,469 But the intent was clear. 789 00:45:20,053 --> 00:45:22,013 For example, a federal court found 790 00:45:22,014 --> 00:45:25,641 North Carolina's voter ID laws had targeted Black Americans 791 00:45:25,642 --> 00:45:29,312 with, quote, "almost surgical precision." 792 00:45:29,313 --> 00:45:31,689 And the attack on the democratic process 793 00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:34,860 only escalated in the wake of the 2020 election. 794 00:45:35,986 --> 00:45:37,486 We are witnessing an attempt 795 00:45:37,487 --> 00:45:40,198 at the greatest contraction of voting rights 796 00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:42,326 since the end of Reconstruction 797 00:45:42,993 --> 00:45:45,453 and the beginning of Jim Crow. 798 00:45:45,454 --> 00:45:46,954 Since 2021, 799 00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:50,458 lawmakers have passed at least 42 restrictive voting laws 800 00:45:50,459 --> 00:45:51,918 in 21 states. 801 00:45:51,919 --> 00:45:53,211 And in Georgia, 802 00:45:53,212 --> 00:45:55,671 one of the most heavily Black states in the nation, 803 00:45:55,672 --> 00:45:58,508 Republicans passed the Election Integrity Act 804 00:45:58,509 --> 00:46:01,136 that created a long list of voting restrictions. 805 00:46:01,762 --> 00:46:06,224 After a pandemic-era election saw the use of mail-in ballots in record numbers, 806 00:46:06,225 --> 00:46:09,018 the law shrunk the number of ballot drop boxes 807 00:46:09,019 --> 00:46:11,980 and added ID requirements for absentee voting. 808 00:46:12,981 --> 00:46:16,317 Data shows Black Americans, on average, wait longer than white voters 809 00:46:16,318 --> 00:46:17,611 to cast their ballot 810 00:46:18,445 --> 00:46:21,614 And yet, the law criminalizes passing out food and water 811 00:46:21,615 --> 00:46:22,991 to those standing in line to vote. 812 00:46:23,951 --> 00:46:25,910 And finally, the law allows anyone 813 00:46:25,911 --> 00:46:29,747 to legally challenge the right of their fellow citizens to cast a ballot, 814 00:46:29,748 --> 00:46:32,875 and created a new hotline to accept anonymous tips 815 00:46:32,876 --> 00:46:34,294 to report voter fraud. 816 00:46:41,301 --> 00:46:45,054 So we are here today, uh, to talk about democracy. 817 00:46:45,055 --> 00:46:49,518 Can you talk about the state of American democracy right now? 818 00:46:50,185 --> 00:46:55,731 - Well, the state of American democracy is really on life support in my opinion. 819 00:46:55,732 --> 00:46:59,652 You had the insurrection of January 6th. 820 00:46:59,653 --> 00:47:04,282 You have all of these draconian, uh, policies being implemented, 821 00:47:04,283 --> 00:47:09,412 uh, to prevent people from being able to select their representatives 822 00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:10,830 and to have a voice. 823 00:47:10,831 --> 00:47:16,752 The takeover process where they have total control of the outcome of elections, 824 00:47:16,753 --> 00:47:20,715 uh, that kind of thing is really putting us in peril. 825 00:47:20,716 --> 00:47:22,800 I think, you know, Coretta Scott King once said, 826 00:47:22,801 --> 00:47:25,469 like, "Freedom is... Is a never-ending process. 827 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:26,470 "Struggle is never really won. 828 00:47:26,471 --> 00:47:28,681 You win it and earn it in every generation." 829 00:47:28,682 --> 00:47:33,060 And, um, one thing that Mrs. Helen often says is, "This is our Selma moment." 830 00:47:33,061 --> 00:47:37,648 And so while I know our democracy is in a very, very bad place, 831 00:47:37,649 --> 00:47:39,525 I feel like we've been here before. 832 00:47:39,526 --> 00:47:42,904 - And really, if you look at the Civil Rights Movement, 833 00:47:42,905 --> 00:47:45,615 it wasn't won overnight. 834 00:47:45,616 --> 00:47:50,036 It was a drawn-out period of time before we could get that right. 835 00:47:50,037 --> 00:47:55,374 We are just really a resilient community. 836 00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:57,126 Uh, we have fought. 837 00:47:57,127 --> 00:47:58,127 And who is the "we"? 838 00:47:58,128 --> 00:48:00,505 We, Black people. 839 00:48:00,506 --> 00:48:01,589 Black people are the... 840 00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:03,674 - And Black women. - And Black women, yes. 841 00:48:03,675 --> 00:48:05,718 We are resilient. 842 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,762 We can make it happen. 843 00:48:07,763 --> 00:48:09,847 - And we can't give up. - Yeah. 844 00:48:09,848 --> 00:48:11,766 Uh, I'm a fighter. 845 00:48:11,767 --> 00:48:17,355 And, you know, if you don't believe in something that you would die for, 846 00:48:17,356 --> 00:48:19,148 then you really don't believe in it. 847 00:48:19,149 --> 00:48:23,319 It has to be so incredibly frustrating 848 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,406 that you convinced people to have a stake in their democracy, 849 00:48:27,407 --> 00:48:29,033 that their vote matters. 850 00:48:29,034 --> 00:48:32,286 How do you return to those people again in 2024 851 00:48:32,287 --> 00:48:35,540 and say, "Yes, they didn't protect your rights. 852 00:48:35,541 --> 00:48:38,167 "They're not respecting your agenda. 853 00:48:38,168 --> 00:48:40,294 "They pass more laws that's gonna make it harder for you. 854 00:48:40,295 --> 00:48:42,088 Do it again because your vote matters." 855 00:48:42,089 --> 00:48:45,383 - It is a hard message, but it's a necessary message. 856 00:48:45,384 --> 00:48:47,468 We can't tell them, "Give up." 857 00:48:47,469 --> 00:48:49,053 I can't tell anybody to give up. 858 00:48:49,054 --> 00:48:50,137 You can't tell 'em, "Give up" 859 00:48:50,138 --> 00:48:52,598 because you don't want 'em to stay at home, 860 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,268 because that makes it even worse. 861 00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:59,648 So it's always the lesser of two evils. 862 00:49:00,107 --> 00:49:01,275 Quite honestly. 863 00:49:01,775 --> 00:49:03,359 It's the lesser of two evils 864 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,112 until you can get in 865 00:49:06,113 --> 00:49:09,533 and have a true majority. 866 00:49:20,502 --> 00:49:22,295 Black American freedom struggles 867 00:49:22,296 --> 00:49:25,507 have laid the foundation for every other modern rights struggle. 868 00:49:27,593 --> 00:49:29,594 The laws born out of Black resistance, 869 00:49:29,595 --> 00:49:31,304 first during Reconstruction 870 00:49:31,305 --> 00:49:33,347 and later during the Civil Rights Movement, 871 00:49:33,348 --> 00:49:36,475 guaranteed equality in law and banned discrimination 872 00:49:36,476 --> 00:49:40,898 based not just on race but on gender, nationality, and religion. 873 00:49:42,691 --> 00:49:45,067 When other marginalized groups demand their rights, 874 00:49:45,068 --> 00:49:48,362 they sue under the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, 875 00:49:48,363 --> 00:49:50,740 including when same-sex couples used it 876 00:49:50,741 --> 00:49:52,868 to win their constitutional right to marry. 877 00:49:55,204 --> 00:49:59,498 We have made tremendous progress toward realizing our democratic ideals, 878 00:49:59,499 --> 00:50:02,627 and yet the ongoing fights over voting and elections 879 00:50:02,628 --> 00:50:05,046 show that a significant portion of our country 880 00:50:05,047 --> 00:50:07,298 still does not believe in democracy 881 00:50:07,299 --> 00:50:11,052 if democracy requires sharing power with multiracial citizens 882 00:50:11,053 --> 00:50:12,387 in our multiracial nation. 883 00:50:13,847 --> 00:50:15,556 I think a lot about what it will take 884 00:50:15,557 --> 00:50:18,601 for a true democracy to take shape in this country. 885 00:50:18,602 --> 00:50:21,103 And I worry about how the nation will respond 886 00:50:21,104 --> 00:50:23,649 to what is clearly a democratic crisis. 887 00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:30,863 So you both are, uh, political scientists 888 00:50:30,864 --> 00:50:34,116 who study how democracies work around the world. 889 00:50:34,117 --> 00:50:37,286 But you guys argue that this backsliding of our democracy 890 00:50:37,287 --> 00:50:40,331 really began as early as the 1980s. 891 00:50:40,332 --> 00:50:41,750 Can you tell me more about that? 892 00:50:42,459 --> 00:50:44,293 Well, the Civil Rights Revolution 893 00:50:44,294 --> 00:50:47,046 and the increasing diversification of our society 894 00:50:47,047 --> 00:50:48,631 with large-scale immigration 895 00:50:48,632 --> 00:50:51,634 triggers a dramatic transformation of the party system, 896 00:50:51,635 --> 00:50:53,511 where, by the early 21st century, 897 00:50:53,512 --> 00:50:58,391 the Republican Party was an overwhelmingly white Christian party 898 00:50:58,392 --> 00:51:02,855 in a society that was much more diverse than ever before. 899 00:51:03,397 --> 00:51:08,109 And it was a party that concentrated the vast bulk of white Americans 900 00:51:08,110 --> 00:51:11,237 who were uncomfortable with racial diversity. 901 00:51:11,238 --> 00:51:14,783 And that's the base that Trump eventually taps into. 902 00:51:15,742 --> 00:51:18,287 But that's a slow movie. That doesn't get invented by Trump. 903 00:51:19,538 --> 00:51:22,040 Trump is a product of that, more than a cause of it. 904 00:51:27,588 --> 00:51:28,921 - In order to understand our current moment, 905 00:51:28,922 --> 00:51:31,132 it's actually useful to look back to the 19th century 906 00:51:31,133 --> 00:51:33,176 and the first effort to create a multiracial democracy 907 00:51:33,177 --> 00:51:34,927 after the Civil War. 908 00:51:34,928 --> 00:51:36,387 And this was a major effort. 909 00:51:36,388 --> 00:51:39,015 All these Constitutional Amendments to guarantee voting rights 910 00:51:39,016 --> 00:51:42,727 failed by 1876, at the earliest by the 1890s, certainly. 911 00:51:42,728 --> 00:51:45,605 And what this meant is that voting rights were now excluded 912 00:51:45,606 --> 00:51:47,149 for African Americans in the South. 913 00:51:47,608 --> 00:51:50,359 By the time we get to the 1960s, their second effort at this, 914 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,737 and the question of political equality 915 00:51:52,738 --> 00:51:55,740 for all groups and all individuals of all backgrounds 916 00:51:55,741 --> 00:51:57,201 is now on the political table. 917 00:51:57,868 --> 00:52:00,244 It's explosive, and there's a backlash against it, 918 00:52:00,245 --> 00:52:03,206 just as there was after the first attempt at this. 919 00:52:03,207 --> 00:52:05,833 And so we're living through that moment right now. 920 00:52:05,834 --> 00:52:06,834 And I guess the question is 921 00:52:06,835 --> 00:52:09,922 to what degree will we make the same mistakes we did last time? 922 00:52:10,756 --> 00:52:13,049 White people are being targeted. 923 00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:18,346 - Joe Biden's five million illegal aliens are on the verge of replacing you. 924 00:52:25,562 --> 00:52:30,149 - You also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. 925 00:52:34,821 --> 00:52:37,657 - They openly campaign for racial reparations 926 00:52:37,658 --> 00:52:40,744 and bigoted policies that target white people. 927 00:52:41,495 --> 00:52:44,664 - So, what are some of the warning signs we see 928 00:52:44,665 --> 00:52:48,501 when we have politicians that are working to threaten democracy, 929 00:52:48,502 --> 00:52:50,379 or that have become a threat to democracy? 930 00:52:51,380 --> 00:52:53,549 - In our book, we identify four warning signs. 931 00:52:54,174 --> 00:52:57,426 If a politician says they won't accept election results 932 00:52:57,427 --> 00:52:59,721 or challenge a democratic constitution. 933 00:53:00,347 --> 00:53:04,100 - We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen. 934 00:53:04,101 --> 00:53:07,104 You don't concede when there is theft involved. 935 00:53:08,105 --> 00:53:12,233 If they condone or threaten violence in their rhetoric. 936 00:53:12,234 --> 00:53:15,487 Usually they go on and tend to support this kind of stuff in action. 937 00:53:17,364 --> 00:53:19,282 Those are people that love this country. 938 00:53:19,283 --> 00:53:21,200 - You know, if you didn't know the TV footage 939 00:53:21,201 --> 00:53:23,369 was a video from January the 6th, 940 00:53:23,370 --> 00:53:26,289 you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. 941 00:53:27,833 --> 00:53:29,792 Do they threaten to assault civil liberties? 942 00:53:29,793 --> 00:53:31,669 Do they threaten the press, for example? 943 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:35,299 - The Republican candidate allegedly throwing a reporter to the ground. 944 00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:47,727 And then number four: 945 00:53:47,728 --> 00:53:49,729 Do they challenge the legitimacy of their opponents? 946 00:53:49,730 --> 00:53:51,148 She shouldn't be allowed to run. 947 00:53:51,773 --> 00:53:55,985 Chris, she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency. 948 00:53:55,986 --> 00:53:58,237 Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? 949 00:53:58,238 --> 00:54:00,657 Because I think it's a terrible pall that's hanging over him. 950 00:54:01,742 --> 00:54:05,036 Today, we once again find ourselves in a chapter of America's story 951 00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:08,498 where some in power are eroding our democratic norms. 952 00:54:10,125 --> 00:54:12,210 One day after top Senate Republicans 953 00:54:12,211 --> 00:54:14,212 decidedly dug in their heels 954 00:54:14,213 --> 00:54:17,089 saying they will not even hold hearings 955 00:54:17,090 --> 00:54:19,509 or even meet with the president's nominee. 956 00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:21,302 After President Obama was blocked 957 00:54:21,303 --> 00:54:24,764 from appointing a Supreme Court nominee in his final year of office, 958 00:54:24,765 --> 00:54:27,350 President Trump appointed three justices, 959 00:54:27,351 --> 00:54:29,268 creating a conservative Supreme Court 960 00:54:29,269 --> 00:54:31,354 that may soon strike down equality measures 961 00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:33,398 established during the Civil Rights Movement. 962 00:54:35,150 --> 00:54:39,028 One that addresses the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow in higher education. 963 00:54:39,029 --> 00:54:40,863 The conservative majority appears ready 964 00:54:40,864 --> 00:54:44,951 to roll back 40 years of affirmative action on American campuses. 965 00:54:44,952 --> 00:54:47,787 And another that undercuts fair elections. 966 00:54:47,788 --> 00:54:49,914 - The Supreme Court hears arguments this morning 967 00:54:49,915 --> 00:54:53,918 on a significant case focusing on race and voting rights in Alabama. 968 00:54:53,919 --> 00:54:56,754 With Black voter registration at historic highs, 969 00:54:56,755 --> 00:54:59,632 Black leaders say Alabama is using redistricting 970 00:54:59,633 --> 00:55:01,718 to dilute the power of their vote. 971 00:55:02,886 --> 00:55:05,137 In the 2022 midterm elections, 972 00:55:05,138 --> 00:55:09,809 nearly 200 candidates who did not accept the results of the presidential election 973 00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:11,269 ran for office. 974 00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:13,062 And on the state level, 975 00:55:13,063 --> 00:55:16,191 we saw armed poll watchers intimidate citizens in Arizona. 976 00:55:16,859 --> 00:55:18,359 And in Florida, 977 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,571 Governor Ron DeSantis created a special election police force 978 00:55:21,572 --> 00:55:23,155 to go after voter fraud 979 00:55:23,156 --> 00:55:27,160 even though study after study showed widespread voter fraud wasn't occurring. 980 00:55:28,579 --> 00:55:34,167 - So if a political party or a politician tries to tilt the playing field in a way 981 00:55:34,168 --> 00:55:37,795 to make it so that it's really so hard for the other side to win elections, 982 00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:39,964 that basically the other side can't win elections, 983 00:55:39,965 --> 00:55:42,175 often doing this legally by changing election rules, 984 00:55:42,176 --> 00:55:44,135 by changing how election districts are drawn, 985 00:55:44,136 --> 00:55:46,387 changing who counts the elections. 986 00:55:46,388 --> 00:55:49,628 - And these are things that we're seeing happening in the United States right now. 987 00:55:50,267 --> 00:55:52,810 Yeah. Um, look, we're at a point 988 00:55:52,811 --> 00:55:56,272 where the bulk of the Republican Party at this point 989 00:55:56,273 --> 00:55:59,150 did not accept defeat in 2020 990 00:55:59,151 --> 00:56:03,864 and has not clearly, unambiguously rejected the use of political violence. 991 00:56:04,448 --> 00:56:06,782 And so to us, that is a warning sign 992 00:56:06,783 --> 00:56:12,538 that one of our major parties is no longer fully committed to democracy. 993 00:56:12,539 --> 00:56:16,501 And when one of two major parties is not committed to democracy, 994 00:56:16,502 --> 00:56:18,420 your democracy is imperiled. 995 00:56:26,595 --> 00:56:28,471 This is my first time doing this, so... 996 00:56:28,472 --> 00:56:29,306 Yes. Okay. 997 00:56:29,307 --> 00:56:32,934 - You go in to the right and those tables and those chairs there. 998 00:56:32,935 --> 00:56:34,135 All right. Thank you. 999 00:56:34,728 --> 00:56:36,562 So we're watching the ballots come in, 1000 00:56:36,563 --> 00:56:39,649 and we are watching Fulton County count the ballots, 1001 00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:42,361 um, of all of the people within this community. 1002 00:56:43,904 --> 00:56:47,114 Seeing all of the work that organizers have put forth 1003 00:56:47,115 --> 00:56:50,118 to combat voter suppression in this state, um, 1004 00:56:50,744 --> 00:56:53,162 really has me amped up, but it also has me scared. 1005 00:56:53,163 --> 00:56:56,958 It has me scared about what's gonna happen either way. 1006 00:56:56,959 --> 00:56:59,043 Um, this election takes place tonight. 1007 00:56:59,044 --> 00:57:02,047 Either way it goes, it has me scared about what's to come. 1008 00:57:06,552 --> 00:57:09,637 I think history will show in the future 1009 00:57:09,638 --> 00:57:15,476 that the demographics of the United States will be different. 1010 00:57:15,477 --> 00:57:19,522 People of color are gonna be the majority. 1011 00:57:19,523 --> 00:57:22,526 And I'm hopeful that at that point, 1012 00:57:23,861 --> 00:57:26,572 then we'll have the true democracy that we want. 1013 00:57:27,573 --> 00:57:30,241 - That's maybe why they're fighting so hard right now. 1014 00:57:30,242 --> 00:57:34,287 - I think that's... I think you hit the nail on the head, 1015 00:57:34,288 --> 00:57:38,708 is that they're fighting because they see those numbers changing. 1016 00:57:38,709 --> 00:57:42,129 So, to me, when we get that demographic shift, 1017 00:57:42,921 --> 00:57:44,589 I think we'll be better 1018 00:57:44,590 --> 00:57:49,719 at not having to work so hard for this. 1019 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,599 - I wanna be able to look back and say, "I did this so that you didn't have to." 1020 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,226 You know, my grandfather did a lot. Ms. Helen did a lot. 1021 00:57:57,227 --> 00:58:00,563 She integrated, uh, the University of Georgia, right? 1022 00:58:00,564 --> 00:58:02,231 And so, you know, she can say, 1023 00:58:02,232 --> 00:58:05,610 you know, "I did this so that Mary-Pat didn't have to do that." 1024 00:58:05,611 --> 00:58:08,030 Um, and that's... That's what legacy is all about. 1025 00:58:20,042 --> 00:58:21,501 As a woman in my 40s, 1026 00:58:21,502 --> 00:58:24,128 I am part of the first generation of Black Americans 1027 00:58:24,129 --> 00:58:25,922 in the history of the United States 1028 00:58:25,923 --> 00:58:27,381 to be born in a society 1029 00:58:27,382 --> 00:58:29,927 in which Black people had full rights of citizenship. 1030 00:58:30,928 --> 00:58:32,762 Yet, in that brief span of time, 1031 00:58:32,763 --> 00:58:35,765 despite continuing to face rampant discrimination, 1032 00:58:35,766 --> 00:58:38,518 and despite there never having been a genuine effort 1033 00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:40,269 to redress the wrongs of slavery 1034 00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:43,105 and the century of legal discrimination that followed, 1035 00:58:43,106 --> 00:58:45,775 Black Americans have made astounding progress, 1036 00:58:45,776 --> 00:58:49,154 not only for ourselves but also for all Americans. 1037 00:58:50,697 --> 00:58:55,201 Our struggles and strivings have made America more fair and more just. 1038 00:58:55,202 --> 00:58:57,453 And as much democracy as we have, 1039 00:58:57,454 --> 00:58:59,705 it has been born of Black resistance. 1040 00:58:59,706 --> 00:59:01,374 In other words, 1041 00:59:01,375 --> 00:59:05,336 the very people who were never supposed to be a part of our democracy 1042 00:59:05,337 --> 00:59:08,048 have played the most pivotal role in creating it. 1043 00:59:12,302 --> 00:59:14,470 So what if America understood, 1044 00:59:14,471 --> 00:59:18,057 finally, now, after 400 years, 1045 00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:20,893 that Black people have never been the problem 1046 00:59:20,894 --> 00:59:22,312 but the solution? 1047 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,160 But that solution came at a tremendous cost, 1048 00:59:38,161 --> 00:59:41,123 and so much of it has been borne by Black women. 1049 00:59:42,249 --> 00:59:45,751 There's a direct link to maternal mortality today 1050 00:59:45,752 --> 00:59:48,714 and the challenges that women had giving birth during slavery. 1051 00:59:49,381 --> 00:59:50,673 What did she tell you? 1052 00:59:50,674 --> 00:59:54,386 - She said, "Baby A doesn't have a heartbeat." 1053 00:59:55,137 --> 00:59:57,513 And I couldn't understand. I'm like, "I don't..." 1054 00:59:57,514 --> 00:59:59,266 I'm like, "I don't understand." 1055 01:00:00,184 --> 01:00:04,729 The legacy of slavery is so ingrained in our system, 1056 01:00:04,730 --> 01:00:06,064 and we don't even see it. 93942

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