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They say our
people were born on the water.
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The teal eternity
of the Atlantic
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had severed them so
completely from their home,
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it was like nothing had
ever existed before.
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These African men and women
from different nations,
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all shackled together
in the hull of a ship.
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They were one people now.
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And although they tried
to break our ancestors,
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to erase our identities,
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we forged a new
culture of our own,
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giving birth to ourselves.
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It didn't matter we were told
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that, by virtue of our bondage,
we would never be American
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because it was by virtue of our bondage
that we became the most American of all.
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This is The 1619 Project.
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Uh, Dad's here. Happy
Valentine's Day, Nikole.
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This is a tape for Nikole.
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Hello, darling. How you doing?
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Excuse me while I partake
of this cancer stick.
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My memory of my
father, Milton Hannah,
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is tender and complicated.
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He was brilliant, tough, funny,
hard-working, and hard-living.
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He always flew a flag
in our front yard.
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Our home on a corner lot of a
distressed block was humble,
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but my father made sure
that flag was pristine.
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When I was young,
I didn't understand
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how he could so proudly
display his patriotism
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for a country that had treated
him and our people so poorly.
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You see, my father was
born into poverty in 1945
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on a sharecropping
farm in Leflore County,
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just outside of
Greenwood, Mississippi.
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The region was
notoriously violent
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when it came to its
near-majority Black population.
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Mississippi lynched more Black people
than any other state in the nation.
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And Leflore County
lynched more Black people
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than any other county
in Mississippi.
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In 1947, my grandmother joined the
flood of six million Black Southerners
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who fled north during
the Great Migration.
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Still, my father and
his siblings grew up
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in a poor, segregated
neighborhood in Waterloo, Iowa,
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and went to segregated schools.
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So in 1962, at the age of 17,
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my father took what seemed
like the best option
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for a poor Black teen:
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he signed up for the army.
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So you were a... a... a child
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- when he came back from... from service.
- Yes. I remember it so plain
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because, uh, we had a porch...
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- Remember we had that porch...
- Yeah.
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- And, uh, when that cab pulled
up, Mama said, "Milton's here."
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Yeah.
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And, uh, got his...
Popped the truck, got his duffel bag out
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and everybody's looking like,
"Who is this guy?" You know?
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I remember he was proud
that he learned to speak German
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Oh, yeah. He sure did.
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- I didn't know any other
Black people who spoke German.
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And when I was in high
school, I took German
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because I thought it would be
cool to speak German with my dad,
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but then I... I was terrible at
German and I didn't get very far.
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But it does speak to, like,
Dad was, like, so smart.
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I just... MONROE
TILLMAN: Yeah.
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- He used to read all the
time, I just remember...
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He was
smart. All the time.
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That's why you got
all of them brains.
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Thank you.
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But despite his intellect
and his military service,
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my dad was never able to live
the so-called American dream.
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Instead, like so many Black
Americans of his generation,
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he would toil his entire life in
service job after service job,
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never seeming to
get too far ahead.
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The first thing you always see
when you come to our house...
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Flag in the yard.is that flag on the pole.
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And one thing about Dad,
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he was patriotic.
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- Oh, yeah.
- Yes, he was.
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I was embarrassed by
that flag when I was a kid.
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Well, you shouldn't have been.
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He was a part of that
United States Army.
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He was a part of a big group, and
he felt that, and he enjoyed that.
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You know, they served their
country. They... You know?
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But, hey, you serve your country don't
mean your country's gonna serve you.
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Looking back at my
confusion and embarrassment
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over my father's patriotism,
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I realize that, like most young
people, I thought I understood so much,
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when, in fact, I knew so little.
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The truth is my dad knew
exactly what he was doing
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when he raised that flag.
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He knew that our contributions
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to building the richest and most
powerful nation in the world
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were undeniable,
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and that no people had a greater claim
to the American flag than we did.
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We laid the foundations of The
White House and the Capitol,
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and lugged the heavy wooden
tracks of the railroads
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that crisscrossed the South.
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The relentless buying, selling,
insuring, and financing of our bodies
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would help make Wall
Street and New York City
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a financial capital
of the world.
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But it would be inaccurate
to reduce our contributions
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to the vast material wealth
created by our forced labor.
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- We can only stop fighting
when all our people are free.
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Black Americans have
always been foundational
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to the idea of American freedom.
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We have to be that voice.
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We have to be the change.
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How would the history
books remember you?
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What will be your legacy?
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Through
centuries of resistance,
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Black Americans have helped the
country live up to its founding ideals.
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Without our idealistic,
strenuous, and patriotic efforts,
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our democracy today would
look very different.
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In fact, our country might
not be a democracy at all.
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Our identity as Americans
is anchored in the idea
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that we are the greatest
democracy in the world.
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We believe that freedom
is, in large part,
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defined by the right
to choose our leaders.
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And so, perhaps, more
than any other nation,
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we define citizenship by the
ability to cast a ballot.
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Voting impacts our lives,
families, and communities.
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It determines what
policies we enact,
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what we fund and regulate,
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what kind of justice
we will receive,
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and, ultimately, what
equality looks like.
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Voting is power.
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And that is why, while
calling itself a democracy,
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this country has always tried to limit
which people are considered citizens
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and which people can vote.
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And why, after a multiracial
coalition of voters
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elected the first Black
president in 2008,
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it spawned the
beginnings of a campaign
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to challenge the validity of
certain votes, certain voters,
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and ultimately, by 2020, the
results of elections themselves.
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I just wanted
to tell you, team,
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that we're glad you are
up bright and early.
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All of us will have
our assignments.
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So far, there haven't been any problems
at any of the polling locations.
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You all voted this morning?
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- Yup, first time. WOMAN:
Where did you vote?
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- First time?
- First time.
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I'm Helen Butler,
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executive director of the Georgia
Coalition for the Peoples' Agenda.
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And I've been working in this
civic engagement work since 2000,
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but with the Peoples' Agenda,
I've been here since 2003.
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So it's over two decades of work,
uh, to protect the right to vote,
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to get people, uh, engaged
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and to really have them be
participants in the electoral process.
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They will call you
with all issues.
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There will be things that you'll need to
escalate to me, to Lyndon, or to Susan.
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The Georgia Coalition
of the Peoples' Agenda
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is a non-partisan organization
working to defend the right to vote.
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In 2020, they helped mobilize
a multiracial group of voters
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who, in a perennially red state,
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chose Democrats for both Senate
seats and the presidency.
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A move that shifted the
balance of power in Washington
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and prompted President Trump
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to infamously call Georgia's Secretary
of State, Brad Raffensperger.
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All I
want to do is this.
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I just want to
find 11,780 votes.
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By the winter of 2021,
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the fight for voting rights had
ignited into a pitched battle
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after Georgia's
Republican-controlled legislature
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passed new restrictive
voting laws.
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- Today, the Department of Justice
is suing the state of Georgia.
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Our complaint alleges that recent
changes to Georgia's election laws
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were enacted with the purpose of denying
or abridging the right of Black Georgians
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to vote on account of
their race or color.
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By the 2022
mid-term elections,
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Helen Butler and her
team were on high alert
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for any voter
disenfranchisement.
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Good morning.
Peoples' Agenda.
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We just got a report
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that, uh, because of an issue
with the zip codes of some voters,
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um, this is their
assigned voting place,
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but they're telling them
that they can't vote there.
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When I get there,
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I should ask for the election,
um, the poll manager.
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Yep.
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And Anna will meet you
there outside as well.
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Okay.
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So we are about to head to a
polling location, um, in Atlanta.
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Apparently, as you heard,
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um, some of the elderly people
in the community have been told
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that they cannot
vote at that location
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despite that being, um, their
designated precinct location.
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Um, so we're gonna head there
and speak to the poll manager
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and see if there's
anything that we can do.
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The Cosby Spear Towers are
an affordable housing community
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in midtown Atlanta
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for seniors and people
living with disabilities.
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- They told me I could not vote until
I do a provisional vote or something
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because of the error that they
put 30309 for my zip code,
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which is 30308.
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They trying to send
me to Hapeville.
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Because of what
appeared to be a clerical error
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that mixed up zip codes,
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June Williams and other
residents in her building
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were being rerouted to a
precinct roughly 20 minutes away.
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And have you voted
at this precinct before?
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- Yeah, I vote here every time and
never had a problem 'til today.
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If Williams wanted to
vote at her regular precinct,
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she would have to cast
a provisional ballot
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and a County Board would later
determine whether her vote counted.
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But instead of being able to
cast her ballot immediately,
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the new restrictive
laws required her
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to return near the end
of the day to do so.
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- So, they told them
to come back at 5:00.
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Once they come at 5:00...
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To me, it sounds like
they're trying to say,
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"Oh, we can guarantee your...
your ballot will be casted."
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It just doesn't
make sense to me.
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And what was... It just
doesn't make sense.
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- Lyndon's calling the election
office, so hopefully...
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It just makes me
feel very uncomfortable.
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It should not be
this hard to vote.
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It just does not...
Especially considering...
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And it kind of brings
tears to my eyes
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because these people
are disabled, you know?
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It's just messed up.
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Just messed up.
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We're gonna fix...
We're gonna get it fixed.
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My shift was supposed
to end at 1:00,
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but I'm like, I'll be here
'til ten o'clock if I need to.
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Black Americans
have always had to fight
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to participate in this
country's democracy.
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And even before that
democracy was established,
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we were fighting for the very
principle that laid its foundation:
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freedom.
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In this country,
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we are taught that we are a
democracy because of our freedoms.
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Freedom of speech,
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freedom of religion,
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freedom of the press,
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the freedom to protest.
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And our national mythology
credits the Founding Fathers
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for establishing America
as the land of the free.
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But even after independence,
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white freedom in America was
predicated on Black slavery.
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Black people dreamed of freedom
even as they lived without it.
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And they fought for
freedom for centuries,
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all the way back to before
our country's founding.
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It is Black people who have been
the perfectors of our democracy.
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Slavery would be foundational
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to the economy, politics,
and laws of the new nation.
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And so I've always
found it strange
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that Black people are so absent from
so many historical colonial sites,
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our presence virtually erased.
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Especially here in Williamsburg,
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where at the start
of the revolution,
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enslaved people made up
nearly half of the population.
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And the question of their freedom
sparked a historical event
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that created a tipping point
in the Southern Colonies
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at the dawn of the
American Revolution.
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Look at this perfect coordination,
though. You see this?
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- Air Jordans! I... I'm
wearing Costco Jordans.
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Costco Jordans! Is that a thing?
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No. It is now!
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I think I wore
Costco Jordans the first,
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you know, 15 years of
my life as a child...
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I think
you've earned some Airs.
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So we are here on the
grounds of the Governor's Palace
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in Williamsburg, Virginia.
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It is the symbol,
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the pinnacle of power
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in the largest British
American Colony of Virginia.
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It's where the governor resided.
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The governor in 1775 was Lord
Dunmore, a Scottish Lord.
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And he was extremely popular
among white Virginians,
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because he had just led them in a
race war against Native Americans
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whose land they coveted.
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So what changes?
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James Madison, who later
will write the U.S. Constitution
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and become president
of the United States,
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reported that African Americans
had started to hold meetings
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to choose who would lead them,
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to quote him, "when the
English troops should arrive."
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In April of 1775,
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rumors of slave revolts were
running rampant in Virginia,
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sparking paranoia among
the white colonists.
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But Dunmore had other worries.
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Even though the fighting had not
yet reached the Southern Colonies,
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he had become gravely concerned
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that the growing patriot sentiment
stirring in Virginia against the British
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might bring the revolution
to his front door.
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So in order to preemptively
deter an attack,
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Dunmore confiscated gunpowder in
the capital here in Williamsburg
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and decided to make a threat.
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Governor Dunmore said,
"If you touch a hair on my head,
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"I will declare
freedom to the slaves
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and reduce the town of
Williamsburg to ashes."
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He thought, "If I play this card
of threatening to free the slaves,
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that will scare them off."
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That's a serious threat
to make. WOODY: That's right.
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- Dunmore understands that he's playing
into the colonists' kind of gravest fear.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Jefferson was always worried about a
revolution of the wheel of fortune.
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That is, we're on top now,
but this thing can spin.
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- He was just trying to
scare the colonists...
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- Exactly.
- Into not rebelling.
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- Exactly. He was... He
was playing the race card.
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He was using a threat
of... of slave insurrection
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to scare white colonists
into standing down.
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While all this is
going back and forth
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between Governor Dunmore
and white patriots,
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he's issued this threat
to free the slaves,
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slaves are listening,
they heard his threat.
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They came and knocked on the
door of the Governor's Palace
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and said, "Here we
are, man. You need us.
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"We can be great fighters.
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All you got to do is
promise us our freedom."
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And guess what Governor Dunmore
said to those enslaved people?
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What did he say?
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- "Get the hell out
of here." NIKOLE: Mmm.
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- That was an idle threat.
You know, we all do that.
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We threaten to do things.
"I'll take you to court."
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It was an idle threat.
He... he didn't mean it.
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But when enslaved people
continued to self-emancipate
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and presented
themselves to Dunmore,
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he saw an opportunity
to shore up his ranks
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by declaring he would
free any enslaved person
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who agreed to fight
against the colonists.
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So eventually, this threat that Lord
Dunmore makes becomes a reality,
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and he actually does issue,
uh, an emancipation order,
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that we now call
Dunmore's Proclamation.
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Dunmore issued that
emancipation proclamation,
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November 1775.
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And that emancipation proclamation
infuriated white Southerners,
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'cause this building is supposed to
symbolize white rule over Blacks,
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and now the guy inhabiting that
building has turned things upside down
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and is leading Blacks
against whites.
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So you have this situation
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where many Virginians and
other Southern colonists,
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they're not really convinced that
they want to side with the patriots.
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And this turns many of them, um,
towards the Revolution, is that right?
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If you ask them, it did.
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The record is absolutely clear.
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I can't think of a point that I could
make about the American Revolution
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where I could compile as many quotes
as I can from white Southerners
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saying how furious they
are at Governor Dunmore.
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Some of them said,
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"There's... There's no other
expedient you could have thought of
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that was as likely as this
to turn us against you."
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Further enraging
the white colonists,
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Dunmore created the
all-Black Ethiopian Regiment
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who fought the patriots at
The Battle of Kemp's Landing
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just outside of
Norfolk, Virginia.
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And the Ethiopian Regiment won.
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By the fall of 1776,
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approximately 1,000 enslaved
people had joined Dunmore.
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This understanding of the role
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that Black people played
in the Revolutionary War,
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why is there so much pushback?
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This is just historical
fact, so why...
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Why do we have so much pushback?
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- Yeah. It... It astonishes me as
well, because it just seems so obvious
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that both economically
and politically,
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enslaved people were at
the center of the story.
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I would say... I think if...
If slaves had been as passive
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as I was taught they were in
Virginia schools in 1960s,
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then the Revolution might not
ever have come to the South.
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And you can't win the
Revolution without the South.
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The way we
are taught our history
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has a lot to do with how we are
supposed to think about our democracy,
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how we think about who built it and
who should benefit most from it.
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When I was a student in Iowa,
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for the most part, the America
revealed to me in my education,
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in museums, and in
monuments, was a white one.
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And yet my world,
my neighborhood,
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my friends, the aunts and uncles
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who crowded our home for
barbecues and card games
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was largely Black.
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I searched desperately
to find our people,
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to find myself in
the American story.
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Except for the occasional passing
reference to our enslavement
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and the Civil Rights Movement,
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the story of America that
I learned made it seem
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that Black people had not contributed
much of value to this land.
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And so for most of my life,
I never felt fully American.
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But then, when I was
a high school student,
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I took a Black Studies course.
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And Mr. Ray Dial, the only
Black male teacher I ever had,
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gave me a book that told
the story of the year 1619,
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the beginning of
American slavery.
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I remember feeling angry that
no one had bothered to teach us
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that Africans and slavery were
here before the Mayflower,
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and then empowered
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that our lineage as Black
Americans went back that far.
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I was 15 years old
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and had no idea how those emotions
would fuel a quest for the truth
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that would shape my life,
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a quest to understand a country
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that the history we had been
taught did not, could not explain.
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- Please welcome back Pulitzer
Prize winner Nikole Hannah-Jones.
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As the
project's success grew,
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it became a target of
conservative politicians.
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- You know, the... the
whole project is a lie.
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The 1619 Project
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and the crusade against
American history
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is toxic propaganda.
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The backlash
had real consequences.
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As of October 2022,
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there were at least 33
state-level efforts,
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as well as a federal bill,
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seeking to restrict educators
from teaching The 1619 Project
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or discussing systemic racism.
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- Nevada groups, they want
teachers there to wear body cameras
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so they can monitor
what they are teaching
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to make sure that they're not
teaching things like The 1619 Project.
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1619-related curricula banned
in Texas, banned in Florida.
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And while the backlash to the
project may seem surprising to some,
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the truth is, the fight to include
slavery and Black contributions
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in the full story of America
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mirrors the fight to include Black
Americans in democracy itself.
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And that is a fight that
stretches back centuries.
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Through 250 years of slavery,
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Black Americans
resisted their bondage.
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They continually plotted,
rebelled, and escaped.
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Some of those who ran away
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found safe haven in
Brooklyn's Plymouth Church,
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a place often called the Grand
Depot of the Underground Railroad.
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In 1860, then-presidential candidate
Abraham Lincoln prayed there
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before giving a campaign speech
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outlining his plan to limit
the expansion of slavery,
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an issue that would
define his presidency.
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So in 1862, a year into the
Civil War, President Lincoln...
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This is before he issues the
emancipation, but he's considering it.
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Lincoln invites a delegation of
five Black men to the White House.
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What is this meeting
about? What happens?
427
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- So Lincoln is
contemplating emancipation.
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And so what he believes
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is that if he can convince Black
people to leave the United States,
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then it'll be easier to get the white
majority to accept emancipation.
431
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So what Lincoln does
in that conversation
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is try to guilt, insult,
do anything he can
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to persuade the Black folks
who were there in that meeting
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to leave the United States.
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And what they are very clear on is
that they are not going to leave.
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Robert Purvis says,
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"Sir, this is our country
as much as it is yours,
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and we will not leave it."
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And Purvis isn't alone on that.
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The vast majority of
the Black population,
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the free Black population even,
said, "No. We're not going anywhere."
442
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Frederick Douglass said, "We were with
you when you arrived on these shores.
443
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"We leveled your forests.
444
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"Our blood, sweat, and
tears are in this soil.
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"We've been with you,
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and we are going to be
with you in the future."
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Instead of promising to
leave the land of their birth,
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Black men pushed Lincoln
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to let them sign up to
fight in the Union army.
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And desperate,
Lincoln finally did.
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As W.E.B. Du Bois wrote, "The
North had to call in the Black men
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to save the Union, abolish
slavery, and establish democracy."
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And amid the ruin and devastation
of this nation's deadliest war,
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in an era known
as Reconstruction,
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this country finally began to try
to redeem the grave sin of slavery.
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These newly emancipated
people pushed lawmakers
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to pass the 13th, 14th,
and 15th Amendment:
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Abolishing slavery;
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guaranteeing equal
protection under the law;
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and citizenship not just for Black people
but for any person born on American soil;
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and making it illegal to deny
voting rights based on race.
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In this moment of rebirth,
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Black Americans embraced democracy
and its promises of equality
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with the type of fervor
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that comes from living so
long with no freedom at all.
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What they want
after slavery is over is justice,
467
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and they go about building it.
468
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They knew that if Black people
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enjoyed all of these rights,
privileges, and protections,
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then all Americans would
be able to enjoy them.
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And that's the beauty of
who they were as a people.
472
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- We know how the story
of Reconstruction ends.
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A deal is struck that if, um,
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Rutherford B. Hayes
can get the presidency,
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then he will agree to withdraw
the federal troops from the South.
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And in doing so,
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he leaves these
newly freed people
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to the mercy of their
former enslavers.
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00:28:05,018 --> 00:28:10,190
Can you talk about, um, what happens in
that period when Reconstruction ends?
480
00:28:10,691 --> 00:28:13,025
- And so what we see
over the next 25 years
481
00:28:13,026 --> 00:28:16,779
is whites in the South
constructing the new order.
482
00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:19,449
And this new order will
be what we call Jim Crow.
483
00:28:19,992 --> 00:28:23,411
But they can't construct it until
they disfranchise Black men,
484
00:28:23,412 --> 00:28:26,290
which is what they spend the
next decade trying to do.
485
00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:31,794
White men in power passed
new allegedly race-neutral laws
486
00:28:31,795 --> 00:28:33,422
to get around the
15th Amendment.
487
00:28:34,173 --> 00:28:35,423
Grandfather clauses said
488
00:28:35,424 --> 00:28:37,758
you could only vote if
your grandfather had,
489
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,345
but most Black men's
grandfathers had been enslaved.
490
00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:42,471
Slavery had ensured
491
00:28:42,472 --> 00:28:45,933
most Black people entered freedom
illiterate and impoverished,
492
00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:50,189
so white officials instituted
literacy tests and poll taxes to vote.
493
00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:56,903
I... I think it
can't be overstated
494
00:28:56,904 --> 00:29:00,072
how much violence Black
Americans were subjected to
495
00:29:00,073 --> 00:29:01,074
during that period.
496
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,868
So we saw that
during Reconstruction,
497
00:29:03,869 --> 00:29:07,914
but we also saw that in 1898, in
places like Wilmington, North Carolina,
498
00:29:07,915 --> 00:29:12,418
where the democratically
elected government is overthrown
499
00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:15,213
by white mobs rampaging
through the city.
500
00:29:15,214 --> 00:29:18,007
And they had held on to the
promise of Reconstruction
501
00:29:18,008 --> 00:29:20,010
for much longer than
anyone else had.
502
00:29:20,594 --> 00:29:22,512
And it has a chilling effect.
503
00:29:22,513 --> 00:29:24,555
Not only massacres
like Wilmington,
504
00:29:24,556 --> 00:29:28,435
but also widespread lynching
throughout the region.
505
00:29:29,144 --> 00:29:32,980
And lynchers are not
targeting Black people
506
00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:35,775
who are committing
crimes against them.
507
00:29:35,776 --> 00:29:38,778
They're targeting Black
people who are successful,
508
00:29:38,779 --> 00:29:40,154
who are prosperous,
509
00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:43,325
and who won't stand down and
submit to white supremacy.
510
00:30:00,217 --> 00:30:03,845
This picture is
essentially for Americans,
511
00:30:03,846 --> 00:30:05,889
people who call
themselves American.
512
00:30:08,267 --> 00:30:11,144
It begins with the painful
and hard-felled assumption
513
00:30:11,854 --> 00:30:14,398
that we are not an
island of perfection,
514
00:30:15,107 --> 00:30:19,736
but in fact, a land of
imperfection in an imperfect world.
515
00:30:21,572 --> 00:30:24,699
Negroes are trying
to register to vote
516
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,662
and help to change the situation
that they're existing under today.
517
00:30:29,371 --> 00:30:33,083
Help to bring about
democracy in our land today.
518
00:30:34,418 --> 00:30:36,210
The system
of racial apartheid
519
00:30:36,211 --> 00:30:39,130
that was created after
Reconstruction was so savage
520
00:30:39,131 --> 00:30:41,549
that Nazi Germany would
take inspiration from it
521
00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:43,427
for its own racist policies.
522
00:30:44,094 --> 00:30:46,971
But Black Americans
would never stop fighting
523
00:30:46,972 --> 00:30:48,223
to democratize America.
524
00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:53,311
Black Americans have always
believed in this nation
525
00:30:53,312 --> 00:30:55,313
with a faith it did not deserve,
526
00:30:55,314 --> 00:30:59,442
risking and losing our lives,
generation after generation,
527
00:30:59,443 --> 00:31:01,987
to make this country what
it already claimed to be.
528
00:31:02,738 --> 00:31:06,073
And nowhere was the fight
for democracy more dangerous
529
00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:08,410
than in my father's home
state of Mississippi.
530
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:10,621
Well, hi there.
531
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,540
MacArthur Cotton was born
just three years before my father
532
00:31:14,541 --> 00:31:16,043
and about 50 miles away.
533
00:31:16,919 --> 00:31:21,590
I was
born in April 23, 1942.
534
00:31:22,508 --> 00:31:25,551
I was a person who
championed the underdog.
535
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:31,016
So it was just a natural thing that
I would want to be in the movement
536
00:31:31,892 --> 00:31:35,686
because, uh, the
choice to me was,
537
00:31:35,687 --> 00:31:39,190
you know, accepting
things like they were.
538
00:31:39,191 --> 00:31:41,151
And that wasn't
much of a choice.
539
00:31:43,028 --> 00:31:46,864
This is one of the pictures
that a friend sent to me
540
00:31:46,865 --> 00:31:49,618
when we were in SNCC.
541
00:31:50,327 --> 00:31:56,124
This... This should be about '63,
I believe, when it was taken.
542
00:32:04,258 --> 00:32:07,845
In the fall of 1962, a group
of students arrived in Greenwood.
543
00:32:08,595 --> 00:32:10,721
They came to organize
the Negro population,
544
00:32:10,722 --> 00:32:12,349
to spread the word
of the new gospel.
545
00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:14,892
They called themselves SNCC:
546
00:32:14,893 --> 00:32:17,020
the Student Nonviolent
Coordinating Committee.
547
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:23,818
In the 1960s,
548
00:32:23,819 --> 00:32:26,780
Greenwood, Mississippi, became a
battleground for voting rights.
549
00:32:27,322 --> 00:32:30,491
At the time, Leflore County
was more than two-thirds Black
550
00:32:30,492 --> 00:32:33,411
but only five percent of the
Black voting-age population
551
00:32:33,412 --> 00:32:34,621
was registered to vote.
552
00:32:35,873 --> 00:32:38,749
And in a state where nearly
half the population was Black,
553
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:42,086
there was not a single Black
elected official in the State House
554
00:32:42,087 --> 00:32:43,839
or in U.S. Congress.
555
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:51,053
Thank you, Mr. Cotton,
for meeting with us today.
556
00:32:51,054 --> 00:32:54,015
Let's start by just telling
where we are sitting.
557
00:32:54,016 --> 00:32:55,558
Where... Where are we right now?
558
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,270
- Well, we are in
Leflore County Courthouse
559
00:32:59,271 --> 00:33:01,147
in Greenwood, Mississippi.
560
00:33:01,148 --> 00:33:04,567
So how... How does
a young Black man decide
561
00:33:04,568 --> 00:33:08,030
that he's going to get involved
with the Civil Rights Movement here?
562
00:33:09,239 --> 00:33:15,204
- Well, uh, I was always taught,
uh, civic responsibility.
563
00:33:15,704 --> 00:33:18,915
It was a civic thing to
do. The right thing to do.
564
00:33:18,916 --> 00:33:21,710
- I had no interest in being
a slave, so. - Mm.
565
00:33:25,339 --> 00:33:28,841
MacArthur Cotton was a student working
in the Tougaloo College Library
566
00:33:28,842 --> 00:33:31,761
when the legendary civil
rights activist Bob Moses
567
00:33:31,762 --> 00:33:32,845
recruited him to join
568
00:33:32,846 --> 00:33:35,097
the Student Nonviolent
Coordinating Committee,
569
00:33:35,098 --> 00:33:36,600
also known as SNCC.
570
00:33:37,184 --> 00:33:40,979
At the time, SNCC was making a big push
to register Black voters in the South.
571
00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:43,940
Cotton eventually left Tougaloo
572
00:33:43,941 --> 00:33:46,317
to work full-time in the
Civil Rights Movement.
573
00:33:46,318 --> 00:33:49,862
He sacrificed his college
degree to fight for democracy,
574
00:33:49,863 --> 00:33:51,989
eventually becoming
a field secretary
575
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:54,201
for the Greenwood voter
registration project.
576
00:33:56,411 --> 00:33:57,954
You know,
in the back of my head,
577
00:33:57,955 --> 00:34:01,749
I thought that we probably would
be able to register people to vote.
578
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:05,920
I didn't expect, uh, the kind
of opposition that we had,
579
00:34:05,921 --> 00:34:08,423
even though I knew it
wasn't going to be easy.
580
00:34:09,007 --> 00:34:13,803
But, uh, after a while, we found
out it was almost impossible.
581
00:34:13,804 --> 00:34:17,098
- Why was it that so few Black
people were registered to vote here?
582
00:34:17,099 --> 00:34:19,016
What type of opposition
did they face?
583
00:34:19,017 --> 00:34:20,768
- State-sponsored terror.
584
00:34:20,769 --> 00:34:23,980
You know, just straight out,
they... they killed people
585
00:34:23,981 --> 00:34:24,982
for trying to register.
586
00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:34,156
I read some
of Bob Moses' reports,
587
00:34:34,157 --> 00:34:37,660
and he said that Greenwood was
a hardcore resistance area,
588
00:34:37,661 --> 00:34:40,079
that almost no progress
had been made here
589
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,250
after at least two years or
more of intensive organizing,
590
00:34:44,251 --> 00:34:46,752
and even the SNCC
offices were bombed.
591
00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,588
They were burned. MACARTHUR:
Of course. Burned.
592
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:49,922
They were shot up.
593
00:34:49,923 --> 00:34:52,300
Um, and you're
entering into that
594
00:34:52,301 --> 00:34:54,928
to try to... To reinforce
the local efforts.
595
00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:57,138
We expected that.
596
00:34:57,139 --> 00:35:02,685
We knew that, uh, there would be bombings
and shootings and... We knew that.
597
00:35:02,686 --> 00:35:06,689
You know, we always hoped
that it didn't happen to us,
598
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:09,276
but we knew that that
was a possibility.
599
00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:12,070
So we could have retreated,
600
00:35:12,863 --> 00:35:16,616
which we didn't feel
like that was an option.
601
00:35:16,617 --> 00:35:18,326
- So...
- You say that so calmly now.
602
00:35:18,327 --> 00:35:20,578
Were you... Were you
calm about it back then?
603
00:35:20,579 --> 00:35:22,788
- Probably even
more so. - Really?
604
00:35:22,789 --> 00:35:26,375
- Yeah. You know, when
you're 18 or 19 or 20,
605
00:35:26,376 --> 00:35:28,127
- you're invincible anyway.
- Mmm.
606
00:35:28,128 --> 00:35:29,921
You think
about what you want to do.
607
00:35:29,922 --> 00:35:32,590
You don't think about
the consequences as much
608
00:35:32,591 --> 00:35:35,676
even though, you know, we were
intelligent enough to know that,
609
00:35:35,677 --> 00:35:41,308
you know, there were terrorists
and all kind of opposition.
610
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,979
Cotton and his fellow
activists came up with a strategy
611
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:48,689
to overwhelm the system.
612
00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:52,485
In June of 1963, they turned
up at the county courthouse
613
00:35:52,486 --> 00:35:55,739
with a group of local Black
residents who dared register to vote.
614
00:36:00,077 --> 00:36:03,996
Our idea was to, you
know, maybe double that the next day,
615
00:36:03,997 --> 00:36:05,581
and on and on,
616
00:36:05,582 --> 00:36:09,752
until we got some kind of
concession from somebody.
617
00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:10,754
Okay.
618
00:36:11,463 --> 00:36:12,463
And what happens?
619
00:36:12,464 --> 00:36:14,967
So you... you go in, you march
up here, and what happens?
620
00:36:15,634 --> 00:36:19,053
So we got to...
As they began to go in,
621
00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:20,763
I think they took
a couple of them in
622
00:36:20,764 --> 00:36:25,519
and then they say, uh, "Well, we're
closing the courthouse for lunch,
623
00:36:26,603 --> 00:36:27,979
so y'all gotta get out."
624
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:32,401
So we... we refused
to, uh, leave.
625
00:36:33,527 --> 00:36:35,195
So they, uh, arrested us.
626
00:36:37,281 --> 00:36:40,825
After the Sheriff's office
arrested Cotton and the other SNCC leaders,
627
00:36:40,826 --> 00:36:44,371
they were fined and initially
sentenced to four months of hard labor.
628
00:36:45,122 --> 00:36:47,123
But instead of staying
on the County Penal Farm
629
00:36:47,124 --> 00:36:48,541
for their full sentence,
630
00:36:48,542 --> 00:36:51,336
partway through, they were
transferred to State prison.
631
00:36:52,337 --> 00:36:53,796
So they take you to Parchman?
632
00:36:53,797 --> 00:36:57,884
Was one of the worst
places to be in America.
633
00:36:57,885 --> 00:36:59,594
Right. That's
what it's supposed to be.
634
00:36:59,595 --> 00:37:05,391
And I think part of that, you know,
they inst... instill fear in people.
635
00:37:05,392 --> 00:37:09,604
And, uh, I think it kind of
bothered them that we didn't care.
636
00:37:09,605 --> 00:37:11,315
That didn't scare you at all?
637
00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:16,152
- Well... Well, you know, really,
we, uh, we were living in Parchman.
638
00:37:16,153 --> 00:37:18,989
We couldn't st... We couldn't
stand up to the courthouse.
639
00:37:19,656 --> 00:37:22,576
We couldn't walk down the street
without being harassed, so.
640
00:37:23,202 --> 00:37:26,454
You know, it wasn't... It
wasn't a big change, you know,
641
00:37:26,455 --> 00:37:28,331
from being inside or outside.
642
00:37:28,332 --> 00:37:31,585
- Talk about Parchman. What...
What was your experience there?
643
00:37:33,128 --> 00:37:36,089
- We were on... on death row.
644
00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:38,799
- So they housed you with
the... - Yeah.
645
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,092
With the death row inmates?
646
00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:41,887
Right, that's
where we were kept.
647
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,059
Activists faced extreme
violence and deprivation at Parchman.
648
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,978
Cotton told me of the
brutality he experienced
649
00:37:50,979 --> 00:37:54,274
after he asked for food that
another inmate had refused.
650
00:37:56,693 --> 00:38:00,196
They hung me,
uh, stretched me, uh,
651
00:38:00,197 --> 00:38:01,532
at the top of my tiptoes
652
00:38:02,324 --> 00:38:06,410
and hung me, uh, to
the bars by my wrists,
653
00:38:06,411 --> 00:38:07,704
you know, put handcuffs...
654
00:38:09,373 --> 00:38:10,623
So they tortured you.
655
00:38:10,624 --> 00:38:12,917
- Of course. That was
the name of the game.
656
00:38:12,918 --> 00:38:17,255
They might would've let me stay there
until, you know, until I perished.
657
00:38:17,256 --> 00:38:19,633
I don't know. But
just so happened,
658
00:38:20,425 --> 00:38:22,678
the International
Council of Churches,
659
00:38:23,887 --> 00:38:25,013
uh, came
660
00:38:26,181 --> 00:38:28,267
to investigate.
661
00:38:28,684 --> 00:38:32,354
So their representatives
came and saw me hanging.
662
00:38:32,771 --> 00:38:37,400
And of course, by then, my
clothes was full of feces and all.
663
00:38:37,401 --> 00:38:41,989
Maybe that... that was the straw
that broke the camel's back.
664
00:38:42,573 --> 00:38:44,366
And they were able
to bail us out.
665
00:38:48,579 --> 00:38:50,413
- I'm so sorry. I don't...
666
00:38:50,414 --> 00:38:51,623
It's okay.
667
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,251
You should be glad.
668
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,503
You should be glad that
we had to sacrifice
669
00:38:57,504 --> 00:38:59,339
to... to do what we had to do.
670
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,760
'Cause... somebody had to do it.
671
00:39:04,761 --> 00:39:07,139
And, hey, I'm still here.
672
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:13,311
- We've seen the Voting Rights Act of 1965
gutted by a conservative Supreme Court.
673
00:39:13,312 --> 00:39:18,316
We've seen, in the last year and a half,
more voter suppression laws passed.
674
00:39:18,317 --> 00:39:23,279
I just wonder, how do we think about
the challenge for democracy ahead,
675
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,284
understanding that history,
and what's your fear?
676
00:39:28,869 --> 00:39:29,995
Mmm.
677
00:39:32,539 --> 00:39:35,083
That I won't be here
long enough to see it.
678
00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:37,085
That's one thing, but, uh...
679
00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:39,671
It...
680
00:39:40,506 --> 00:39:44,551
Well, for people who
were paying attention
681
00:39:45,802 --> 00:39:47,887
and understood,
682
00:39:47,888 --> 00:39:49,890
the opposition
never quit fighting.
683
00:39:50,766 --> 00:39:56,354
So actually it wasn't that much
change in the mind or heart.
684
00:39:56,355 --> 00:39:58,941
So, just, you know,
the struggle continues.
685
00:40:00,025 --> 00:40:02,277
And it... it will always
686
00:40:03,278 --> 00:40:04,278
be a fight.
687
00:40:04,279 --> 00:40:05,906
Democracy is a fight.
688
00:40:12,579 --> 00:40:15,122
Just weeks after his
release from Parchman prison,
689
00:40:15,123 --> 00:40:17,792
MacArthur Cotton set on his
way to the nation's capital...
690
00:40:17,793 --> 00:40:21,796
We are requesting all
citizens to move into Washington.
691
00:40:21,797 --> 00:40:23,881
where he joined
a quarter million people
692
00:40:23,882 --> 00:40:25,424
from across the country.
693
00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:29,387
Go by plane, by
car, walk if necessary.
694
00:40:29,388 --> 00:40:34,976
We are pushing for jobs,
housing, desegregated schools.
695
00:40:34,977 --> 00:40:36,519
This is an urgent request.
696
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,605
Please join. Go to Washington.
697
00:40:39,356 --> 00:40:42,692
On that hot
August day in 1963,
698
00:40:42,693 --> 00:40:44,485
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke
699
00:40:44,486 --> 00:40:47,698
to Black American commitment
to the democratic process.
700
00:40:50,284 --> 00:40:54,454
There will be
neither rest nor tranquility in America
701
00:40:55,247 --> 00:40:59,250
until the Negro is granted
his citizenship rights.
702
00:40:59,251 --> 00:41:00,251
Two years later,
703
00:41:00,252 --> 00:41:02,753
after countless activists
had been violently beaten
704
00:41:02,754 --> 00:41:04,338
and many others murdered,
705
00:41:04,339 --> 00:41:07,842
Congress passed the
Voting Rights Act of 1965,
706
00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:10,720
forcing the South to stop
violating the Constitution
707
00:41:10,721 --> 00:41:12,847
by denying Black people
the right to vote
708
00:41:12,848 --> 00:41:16,685
and enforcing the century-old rights
promised in the 15th Amendment.
709
00:41:17,644 --> 00:41:21,063
Black Americans, just as they
had right after the Civil War,
710
00:41:21,064 --> 00:41:25,777
helped expand legal equality
and democracy for all Americans.
711
00:41:36,038 --> 00:41:38,289
With the balance of
Congress once again at stake
712
00:41:38,290 --> 00:41:40,666
in the 2022 midterm election,
713
00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:44,295
Mary-Pat Hector was trying to resolve
the issue at the Cosby Spear Towers
714
00:41:44,296 --> 00:41:47,256
that was routing residents
to another polling location
715
00:41:47,257 --> 00:41:48,759
about 20 minutes away.
716
00:41:49,301 --> 00:41:51,594
- I mean, Hapeville...
That just seems ridiculous.
717
00:41:51,595 --> 00:41:53,596
And there's another
polling site right here at the...
718
00:41:53,597 --> 00:41:55,932
Back at headquarters,
Helen Butler worked the phones
719
00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:58,518
with the Fulton County
election board representative,
720
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,771
who confirmed the County
had made a mistake.
721
00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:04,482
- All right. Thank you.
So I'll get it taken...
722
00:42:04,483 --> 00:42:06,485
So they were in
the wrong precinct?
723
00:42:07,194 --> 00:42:08,194
Yes.
724
00:42:08,195 --> 00:42:10,071
- Okay. All right.
- Okay. Okay.
725
00:42:10,072 --> 00:42:12,072
- Okay. Thank you.
- Mm-hmm.
726
00:42:14,952 --> 00:42:16,369
Hey,
Ms. Helen, you talked to her?
727
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:17,204
Yes.
728
00:42:17,205 --> 00:42:19,038
Uh, what's the update?
729
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,209
- They're voting a regular
ballot on the voting machine.
730
00:42:22,793 --> 00:42:27,463
If a poll worker tells them that
they have to vote provisionally,
731
00:42:27,464 --> 00:42:29,298
ask for the poll manager,
732
00:42:29,299 --> 00:42:32,969
and the poll manager
will get it corrected.
733
00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:34,679
All right.
Thank you so much, Ms. Helen.
734
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,389
So, I... I can leave?
735
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:37,807
You can leave.
736
00:42:37,808 --> 00:42:39,225
Okay. Thank you very much.
737
00:42:39,226 --> 00:42:41,478
All right. Okay, bye.
738
00:42:42,271 --> 00:42:45,064
They can. They
can. Yep. Everything is good.
739
00:42:45,065 --> 00:42:47,149
So I'm about to leave and
go back to the office.
740
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:49,026
That's a win. Small wins count.
741
00:42:49,027 --> 00:42:51,529
All right. Very...
Small wins really do count.
742
00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:53,991
So thank you. I
really appreciate it.
743
00:42:55,492 --> 00:42:59,161
Yeah, so myself and
some volunteers went over there,
744
00:42:59,162 --> 00:43:01,414
knocked on every
door in that building
745
00:43:01,415 --> 00:43:04,000
that was impacted by
the error this morning,
746
00:43:04,001 --> 00:43:06,294
just to make sure all
of the residents knew
747
00:43:06,295 --> 00:43:09,882
that if they were turned around
that they can come back and vote.
748
00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:14,177
And while June Williams
finally cast her ballot,
749
00:43:14,178 --> 00:43:16,388
the mistake felt
all too familiar.
750
00:43:17,764 --> 00:43:18,848
Speaking with Miss June
751
00:43:18,849 --> 00:43:21,726
and hearing how she's actually been
a part of the Civil Rights Movement
752
00:43:21,727 --> 00:43:23,769
and actually lived
in those times,
753
00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:27,857
uh, where it, in her own
words, feels like a repeat.
754
00:43:27,858 --> 00:43:30,401
But to see her go the extra mile
755
00:43:30,402 --> 00:43:33,279
and say, "I will sit out
this door until seven o'clock
756
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,739
because I'm going to vote."
757
00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:39,327
Um, I think she really charged my
generation to have that same tenacity
758
00:43:39,328 --> 00:43:41,037
and do what needs to be done
759
00:43:41,038 --> 00:43:43,665
to correct whatever wrongs
that may be happening.
760
00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:47,793
For nearly 50 years,
761
00:43:47,794 --> 00:43:50,755
the Voting Rights Act that
protected Williams' generation
762
00:43:50,756 --> 00:43:54,885
was reauthorized with bipartisan support
from Congress and the White House.
763
00:43:55,511 --> 00:44:00,431
- So Bush actually signed
the last reauthorization
764
00:44:00,432 --> 00:44:02,684
of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
765
00:44:03,393 --> 00:44:06,395
I got a personal invitation
from George Bush.
766
00:44:06,396 --> 00:44:09,691
That's... The red ticket
is my ticket to the event.
767
00:44:10,275 --> 00:44:13,070
We were out on the lawn
of the White House.
768
00:44:13,946 --> 00:44:17,156
And in the middle, we
got to take our picture,
769
00:44:17,157 --> 00:44:19,325
our little Georgia delegation.
770
00:44:19,326 --> 00:44:24,915
So it... it is us there,
uh, enjoying the moment.
771
00:44:25,249 --> 00:44:30,963
But of course, we know Shelby
v. Holder changed that in 2013.
772
00:44:31,713 --> 00:44:34,966
After President Obama
won a second term in 2012,
773
00:44:34,967 --> 00:44:36,133
the Supreme Court,
774
00:44:36,134 --> 00:44:39,053
determining the nation had
largely moved on from the racism
775
00:44:39,054 --> 00:44:41,472
that had once made the
Voting Rights Act necessary,
776
00:44:41,473 --> 00:44:44,141
overturned key
protections in the law.
777
00:44:44,142 --> 00:44:48,813
The decision invalidating a
section of the Voting Rights Act of 1965
778
00:44:48,814 --> 00:44:50,773
deeply divided the justices,
779
00:44:50,774 --> 00:44:53,317
but it rested on
a simple premise.
780
00:44:53,318 --> 00:44:55,778
As Chief Justice
John Roberts said,
781
00:44:55,779 --> 00:44:59,658
"Nearly 50 years later, things
have changed dramatically."
782
00:45:00,492 --> 00:45:03,286
Following the
ruling, by the 2016 election,
783
00:45:03,287 --> 00:45:06,664
14 states had enacted
new redistricting plans
784
00:45:06,665 --> 00:45:08,374
or new restrictions on voting
785
00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:12,295
that, before, would have required
preapproval by the Justice Department.
786
00:45:12,296 --> 00:45:15,089
And just like the laws
passed during Jim Crow,
787
00:45:15,090 --> 00:45:17,758
these new laws were
allegedly race-neutral.
788
00:45:17,759 --> 00:45:19,469
But the intent was clear.
789
00:45:20,053 --> 00:45:22,013
For example, a
federal court found
790
00:45:22,014 --> 00:45:25,641
North Carolina's voter ID laws
had targeted Black Americans
791
00:45:25,642 --> 00:45:29,312
with, quote, "almost
surgical precision."
792
00:45:29,313 --> 00:45:31,689
And the attack on the
democratic process
793
00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:34,860
only escalated in the
wake of the 2020 election.
794
00:45:35,986 --> 00:45:37,486
We are
witnessing an attempt
795
00:45:37,487 --> 00:45:40,198
at the greatest contraction
of voting rights
796
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:42,326
since the end of Reconstruction
797
00:45:42,993 --> 00:45:45,453
and the beginning of Jim Crow.
798
00:45:45,454 --> 00:45:46,954
Since 2021,
799
00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:50,458
lawmakers have passed at least
42 restrictive voting laws
800
00:45:50,459 --> 00:45:51,918
in 21 states.
801
00:45:51,919 --> 00:45:53,211
And in Georgia,
802
00:45:53,212 --> 00:45:55,671
one of the most heavily
Black states in the nation,
803
00:45:55,672 --> 00:45:58,508
Republicans passed the
Election Integrity Act
804
00:45:58,509 --> 00:46:01,136
that created a long list
of voting restrictions.
805
00:46:01,762 --> 00:46:06,224
After a pandemic-era election saw the
use of mail-in ballots in record numbers,
806
00:46:06,225 --> 00:46:09,018
the law shrunk the number
of ballot drop boxes
807
00:46:09,019 --> 00:46:11,980
and added ID requirements
for absentee voting.
808
00:46:12,981 --> 00:46:16,317
Data shows Black Americans, on
average, wait longer than white voters
809
00:46:16,318 --> 00:46:17,611
to cast their ballot
810
00:46:18,445 --> 00:46:21,614
And yet, the law criminalizes
passing out food and water
811
00:46:21,615 --> 00:46:22,991
to those standing
in line to vote.
812
00:46:23,951 --> 00:46:25,910
And finally, the
law allows anyone
813
00:46:25,911 --> 00:46:29,747
to legally challenge the right of
their fellow citizens to cast a ballot,
814
00:46:29,748 --> 00:46:32,875
and created a new hotline
to accept anonymous tips
815
00:46:32,876 --> 00:46:34,294
to report voter fraud.
816
00:46:41,301 --> 00:46:45,054
So we are here today, uh,
to talk about democracy.
817
00:46:45,055 --> 00:46:49,518
Can you talk about the state of
American democracy right now?
818
00:46:50,185 --> 00:46:55,731
- Well, the state of American democracy
is really on life support in my opinion.
819
00:46:55,732 --> 00:46:59,652
You had the insurrection
of January 6th.
820
00:46:59,653 --> 00:47:04,282
You have all of these draconian,
uh, policies being implemented,
821
00:47:04,283 --> 00:47:09,412
uh, to prevent people from being
able to select their representatives
822
00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:10,830
and to have a voice.
823
00:47:10,831 --> 00:47:16,752
The takeover process where they have
total control of the outcome of elections,
824
00:47:16,753 --> 00:47:20,715
uh, that kind of thing is
really putting us in peril.
825
00:47:20,716 --> 00:47:22,800
I think, you know,
Coretta Scott King once said,
826
00:47:22,801 --> 00:47:25,469
like, "Freedom is... Is
a never-ending process.
827
00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:26,470
"Struggle is never really won.
828
00:47:26,471 --> 00:47:28,681
You win it and earn it
in every generation."
829
00:47:28,682 --> 00:47:33,060
And, um, one thing that Mrs. Helen often
says is, "This is our Selma moment."
830
00:47:33,061 --> 00:47:37,648
And so while I know our democracy
is in a very, very bad place,
831
00:47:37,649 --> 00:47:39,525
I feel like we've
been here before.
832
00:47:39,526 --> 00:47:42,904
- And really, if you look at
the Civil Rights Movement,
833
00:47:42,905 --> 00:47:45,615
it wasn't won overnight.
834
00:47:45,616 --> 00:47:50,036
It was a drawn-out period of time
before we could get that right.
835
00:47:50,037 --> 00:47:55,374
We are just really a
resilient community.
836
00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:57,126
Uh, we have fought.
837
00:47:57,127 --> 00:47:58,127
And who is the "we"?
838
00:47:58,128 --> 00:48:00,505
We, Black people.
839
00:48:00,506 --> 00:48:01,589
Black people are the...
840
00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:03,674
- And Black women.
- And Black women, yes.
841
00:48:03,675 --> 00:48:05,718
We are resilient.
842
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,762
We can make it happen.
843
00:48:07,763 --> 00:48:09,847
- And we can't give up.
- Yeah.
844
00:48:09,848 --> 00:48:11,766
Uh, I'm a fighter.
845
00:48:11,767 --> 00:48:17,355
And, you know, if you don't believe
in something that you would die for,
846
00:48:17,356 --> 00:48:19,148
then you really
don't believe in it.
847
00:48:19,149 --> 00:48:23,319
It has to be so
incredibly frustrating
848
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,406
that you convinced people to
have a stake in their democracy,
849
00:48:27,407 --> 00:48:29,033
that their vote matters.
850
00:48:29,034 --> 00:48:32,286
How do you return to
those people again in 2024
851
00:48:32,287 --> 00:48:35,540
and say, "Yes, they didn't
protect your rights.
852
00:48:35,541 --> 00:48:38,167
"They're not
respecting your agenda.
853
00:48:38,168 --> 00:48:40,294
"They pass more laws that's
gonna make it harder for you.
854
00:48:40,295 --> 00:48:42,088
Do it again because
your vote matters."
855
00:48:42,089 --> 00:48:45,383
- It is a hard message, but
it's a necessary message.
856
00:48:45,384 --> 00:48:47,468
We can't tell them, "Give up."
857
00:48:47,469 --> 00:48:49,053
I can't tell anybody to give up.
858
00:48:49,054 --> 00:48:50,137
You can't
tell 'em, "Give up"
859
00:48:50,138 --> 00:48:52,598
because you don't want
'em to stay at home,
860
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,268
because that makes
it even worse.
861
00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:59,648
So it's always the
lesser of two evils.
862
00:49:00,107 --> 00:49:01,275
Quite honestly.
863
00:49:01,775 --> 00:49:03,359
It's the lesser of two evils
864
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,112
until you can get in
865
00:49:06,113 --> 00:49:09,533
and have a true majority.
866
00:49:20,502 --> 00:49:22,295
Black American
freedom struggles
867
00:49:22,296 --> 00:49:25,507
have laid the foundation for every
other modern rights struggle.
868
00:49:27,593 --> 00:49:29,594
The laws born out
of Black resistance,
869
00:49:29,595 --> 00:49:31,304
first during Reconstruction
870
00:49:31,305 --> 00:49:33,347
and later during the
Civil Rights Movement,
871
00:49:33,348 --> 00:49:36,475
guaranteed equality in law
and banned discrimination
872
00:49:36,476 --> 00:49:40,898
based not just on race but on
gender, nationality, and religion.
873
00:49:42,691 --> 00:49:45,067
When other marginalized
groups demand their rights,
874
00:49:45,068 --> 00:49:48,362
they sue under the equal protection
clause of the 14th Amendment,
875
00:49:48,363 --> 00:49:50,740
including when same-sex
couples used it
876
00:49:50,741 --> 00:49:52,868
to win their constitutional
right to marry.
877
00:49:55,204 --> 00:49:59,498
We have made tremendous progress
toward realizing our democratic ideals,
878
00:49:59,499 --> 00:50:02,627
and yet the ongoing fights
over voting and elections
879
00:50:02,628 --> 00:50:05,046
show that a significant
portion of our country
880
00:50:05,047 --> 00:50:07,298
still does not
believe in democracy
881
00:50:07,299 --> 00:50:11,052
if democracy requires sharing
power with multiracial citizens
882
00:50:11,053 --> 00:50:12,387
in our multiracial nation.
883
00:50:13,847 --> 00:50:15,556
I think a lot about
what it will take
884
00:50:15,557 --> 00:50:18,601
for a true democracy to
take shape in this country.
885
00:50:18,602 --> 00:50:21,103
And I worry about how
the nation will respond
886
00:50:21,104 --> 00:50:23,649
to what is clearly
a democratic crisis.
887
00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:30,863
So you both are, uh,
political scientists
888
00:50:30,864 --> 00:50:34,116
who study how democracies
work around the world.
889
00:50:34,117 --> 00:50:37,286
But you guys argue that this
backsliding of our democracy
890
00:50:37,287 --> 00:50:40,331
really began as
early as the 1980s.
891
00:50:40,332 --> 00:50:41,750
Can you tell me more about that?
892
00:50:42,459 --> 00:50:44,293
Well, the Civil
Rights Revolution
893
00:50:44,294 --> 00:50:47,046
and the increasing
diversification of our society
894
00:50:47,047 --> 00:50:48,631
with large-scale immigration
895
00:50:48,632 --> 00:50:51,634
triggers a dramatic transformation
of the party system,
896
00:50:51,635 --> 00:50:53,511
where, by the
early 21st century,
897
00:50:53,512 --> 00:50:58,391
the Republican Party was an
overwhelmingly white Christian party
898
00:50:58,392 --> 00:51:02,855
in a society that was much
more diverse than ever before.
899
00:51:03,397 --> 00:51:08,109
And it was a party that concentrated
the vast bulk of white Americans
900
00:51:08,110 --> 00:51:11,237
who were uncomfortable
with racial diversity.
901
00:51:11,238 --> 00:51:14,783
And that's the base that
Trump eventually taps into.
902
00:51:15,742 --> 00:51:18,287
But that's a slow movie. That
doesn't get invented by Trump.
903
00:51:19,538 --> 00:51:22,040
Trump is a product of that,
more than a cause of it.
904
00:51:27,588 --> 00:51:28,921
- In order to understand
our current moment,
905
00:51:28,922 --> 00:51:31,132
it's actually useful to look
back to the 19th century
906
00:51:31,133 --> 00:51:33,176
and the first effort to
create a multiracial democracy
907
00:51:33,177 --> 00:51:34,927
after the Civil War.
908
00:51:34,928 --> 00:51:36,387
And this was a major effort.
909
00:51:36,388 --> 00:51:39,015
All these Constitutional Amendments
to guarantee voting rights
910
00:51:39,016 --> 00:51:42,727
failed by 1876, at the earliest
by the 1890s, certainly.
911
00:51:42,728 --> 00:51:45,605
And what this meant is that
voting rights were now excluded
912
00:51:45,606 --> 00:51:47,149
for African Americans
in the South.
913
00:51:47,608 --> 00:51:50,359
By the time we get to the 1960s,
their second effort at this,
914
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,737
and the question of
political equality
915
00:51:52,738 --> 00:51:55,740
for all groups and all
individuals of all backgrounds
916
00:51:55,741 --> 00:51:57,201
is now on the political table.
917
00:51:57,868 --> 00:52:00,244
It's explosive, and there's
a backlash against it,
918
00:52:00,245 --> 00:52:03,206
just as there was after
the first attempt at this.
919
00:52:03,207 --> 00:52:05,833
And so we're living through
that moment right now.
920
00:52:05,834 --> 00:52:06,834
And I guess the question is
921
00:52:06,835 --> 00:52:09,922
to what degree will we make the
same mistakes we did last time?
922
00:52:10,756 --> 00:52:13,049
White people are being targeted.
923
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:18,346
- Joe Biden's five million illegal
aliens are on the verge of replacing you.
924
00:52:25,562 --> 00:52:30,149
- You also had people that were
very fine people, on both sides.
925
00:52:34,821 --> 00:52:37,657
- They openly campaign
for racial reparations
926
00:52:37,658 --> 00:52:40,744
and bigoted policies
that target white people.
927
00:52:41,495 --> 00:52:44,664
- So, what are some of
the warning signs we see
928
00:52:44,665 --> 00:52:48,501
when we have politicians that are
working to threaten democracy,
929
00:52:48,502 --> 00:52:50,379
or that have become a
threat to democracy?
930
00:52:51,380 --> 00:52:53,549
- In our book, we identify
four warning signs.
931
00:52:54,174 --> 00:52:57,426
If a politician says they
won't accept election results
932
00:52:57,427 --> 00:52:59,721
or challenge a
democratic constitution.
933
00:53:00,347 --> 00:53:04,100
- We will never give up. We will
never concede. It doesn't happen.
934
00:53:04,101 --> 00:53:07,104
You don't concede when
there is theft involved.
935
00:53:08,105 --> 00:53:12,233
If they condone or
threaten violence in their rhetoric.
936
00:53:12,234 --> 00:53:15,487
Usually they go on and tend to
support this kind of stuff in action.
937
00:53:17,364 --> 00:53:19,282
Those are people that
love this country.
938
00:53:19,283 --> 00:53:21,200
- You know, if you didn't
know the TV footage
939
00:53:21,201 --> 00:53:23,369
was a video from
January the 6th,
940
00:53:23,370 --> 00:53:26,289
you would actually think it
was a normal tourist visit.
941
00:53:27,833 --> 00:53:29,792
Do they threaten to
assault civil liberties?
942
00:53:29,793 --> 00:53:31,669
Do they threaten the
press, for example?
943
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:35,299
- The Republican candidate allegedly
throwing a reporter to the ground.
944
00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:47,727
And then number four:
945
00:53:47,728 --> 00:53:49,729
Do they challenge the
legitimacy of their opponents?
946
00:53:49,730 --> 00:53:51,148
She shouldn't be allowed to run.
947
00:53:51,773 --> 00:53:55,985
Chris, she should never have been
allowed to run for the presidency.
948
00:53:55,986 --> 00:53:58,237
Why doesn't he show
his birth certificate?
949
00:53:58,238 --> 00:54:00,657
Because I think it's a terrible
pall that's hanging over him.
950
00:54:01,742 --> 00:54:05,036
Today, we once again find
ourselves in a chapter of America's story
951
00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:08,498
where some in power are
eroding our democratic norms.
952
00:54:10,125 --> 00:54:12,210
One day after
top Senate Republicans
953
00:54:12,211 --> 00:54:14,212
decidedly dug in their heels
954
00:54:14,213 --> 00:54:17,089
saying they will not
even hold hearings
955
00:54:17,090 --> 00:54:19,509
or even meet with the
president's nominee.
956
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:21,302
After President
Obama was blocked
957
00:54:21,303 --> 00:54:24,764
from appointing a Supreme Court
nominee in his final year of office,
958
00:54:24,765 --> 00:54:27,350
President Trump
appointed three justices,
959
00:54:27,351 --> 00:54:29,268
creating a conservative
Supreme Court
960
00:54:29,269 --> 00:54:31,354
that may soon strike
down equality measures
961
00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:33,398
established during the
Civil Rights Movement.
962
00:54:35,150 --> 00:54:39,028
One that addresses the legacy of slavery
and Jim Crow in higher education.
963
00:54:39,029 --> 00:54:40,863
The conservative
majority appears ready
964
00:54:40,864 --> 00:54:44,951
to roll back 40 years of affirmative
action on American campuses.
965
00:54:44,952 --> 00:54:47,787
And another that
undercuts fair elections.
966
00:54:47,788 --> 00:54:49,914
- The Supreme Court hears
arguments this morning
967
00:54:49,915 --> 00:54:53,918
on a significant case focusing on
race and voting rights in Alabama.
968
00:54:53,919 --> 00:54:56,754
With Black voter
registration at historic highs,
969
00:54:56,755 --> 00:54:59,632
Black leaders say Alabama
is using redistricting
970
00:54:59,633 --> 00:55:01,718
to dilute the power
of their vote.
971
00:55:02,886 --> 00:55:05,137
In the 2022
midterm elections,
972
00:55:05,138 --> 00:55:09,809
nearly 200 candidates who did not accept
the results of the presidential election
973
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:11,269
ran for office.
974
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:13,062
And on the state level,
975
00:55:13,063 --> 00:55:16,191
we saw armed poll watchers
intimidate citizens in Arizona.
976
00:55:16,859 --> 00:55:18,359
And in Florida,
977
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,571
Governor Ron DeSantis created
a special election police force
978
00:55:21,572 --> 00:55:23,155
to go after voter fraud
979
00:55:23,156 --> 00:55:27,160
even though study after study showed
widespread voter fraud wasn't occurring.
980
00:55:28,579 --> 00:55:34,167
- So if a political party or a politician
tries to tilt the playing field in a way
981
00:55:34,168 --> 00:55:37,795
to make it so that it's really so hard
for the other side to win elections,
982
00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:39,964
that basically the other
side can't win elections,
983
00:55:39,965 --> 00:55:42,175
often doing this legally
by changing election rules,
984
00:55:42,176 --> 00:55:44,135
by changing how election
districts are drawn,
985
00:55:44,136 --> 00:55:46,387
changing who counts
the elections.
986
00:55:46,388 --> 00:55:49,628
- And these are things that we're seeing
happening in the United States right now.
987
00:55:50,267 --> 00:55:52,810
Yeah.
Um, look, we're at a point
988
00:55:52,811 --> 00:55:56,272
where the bulk of the
Republican Party at this point
989
00:55:56,273 --> 00:55:59,150
did not accept defeat in 2020
990
00:55:59,151 --> 00:56:03,864
and has not clearly, unambiguously
rejected the use of political violence.
991
00:56:04,448 --> 00:56:06,782
And so to us, that
is a warning sign
992
00:56:06,783 --> 00:56:12,538
that one of our major parties is no
longer fully committed to democracy.
993
00:56:12,539 --> 00:56:16,501
And when one of two major parties
is not committed to democracy,
994
00:56:16,502 --> 00:56:18,420
your democracy is imperiled.
995
00:56:26,595 --> 00:56:28,471
This is my first
time doing this, so...
996
00:56:28,472 --> 00:56:29,306
Yes. Okay.
997
00:56:29,307 --> 00:56:32,934
- You go in to the right and those
tables and those chairs there.
998
00:56:32,935 --> 00:56:34,135
All
right. Thank you.
999
00:56:34,728 --> 00:56:36,562
So we're watching
the ballots come in,
1000
00:56:36,563 --> 00:56:39,649
and we are watching Fulton
County count the ballots,
1001
00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:42,361
um, of all of the people
within this community.
1002
00:56:43,904 --> 00:56:47,114
Seeing all of the work that
organizers have put forth
1003
00:56:47,115 --> 00:56:50,118
to combat voter suppression
in this state, um,
1004
00:56:50,744 --> 00:56:53,162
really has me amped up,
but it also has me scared.
1005
00:56:53,163 --> 00:56:56,958
It has me scared about what's
gonna happen either way.
1006
00:56:56,959 --> 00:56:59,043
Um, this election
takes place tonight.
1007
00:56:59,044 --> 00:57:02,047
Either way it goes, it has me
scared about what's to come.
1008
00:57:06,552 --> 00:57:09,637
I think history
will show in the future
1009
00:57:09,638 --> 00:57:15,476
that the demographics of the
United States will be different.
1010
00:57:15,477 --> 00:57:19,522
People of color are
gonna be the majority.
1011
00:57:19,523 --> 00:57:22,526
And I'm hopeful
that at that point,
1012
00:57:23,861 --> 00:57:26,572
then we'll have the true
democracy that we want.
1013
00:57:27,573 --> 00:57:30,241
- That's maybe why they're
fighting so hard right now.
1014
00:57:30,242 --> 00:57:34,287
- I think that's... I think
you hit the nail on the head,
1015
00:57:34,288 --> 00:57:38,708
is that they're fighting because
they see those numbers changing.
1016
00:57:38,709 --> 00:57:42,129
So, to me, when we get
that demographic shift,
1017
00:57:42,921 --> 00:57:44,589
I think we'll be better
1018
00:57:44,590 --> 00:57:49,719
at not having to work
so hard for this.
1019
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,599
- I wanna be able to look back and say,
"I did this so that you didn't have to."
1020
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,226
You know, my grandfather did
a lot. Ms. Helen did a lot.
1021
00:57:57,227 --> 00:58:00,563
She integrated, uh, the
University of Georgia, right?
1022
00:58:00,564 --> 00:58:02,231
And so, you know, she can say,
1023
00:58:02,232 --> 00:58:05,610
you know, "I did this so that
Mary-Pat didn't have to do that."
1024
00:58:05,611 --> 00:58:08,030
Um, and that's... That's
what legacy is all about.
1025
00:58:20,042 --> 00:58:21,501
As a woman in my 40s,
1026
00:58:21,502 --> 00:58:24,128
I am part of the first
generation of Black Americans
1027
00:58:24,129 --> 00:58:25,922
in the history of
the United States
1028
00:58:25,923 --> 00:58:27,381
to be born in a society
1029
00:58:27,382 --> 00:58:29,927
in which Black people had
full rights of citizenship.
1030
00:58:30,928 --> 00:58:32,762
Yet, in that brief span of time,
1031
00:58:32,763 --> 00:58:35,765
despite continuing to face
rampant discrimination,
1032
00:58:35,766 --> 00:58:38,518
and despite there never
having been a genuine effort
1033
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:40,269
to redress the wrongs of slavery
1034
00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:43,105
and the century of legal
discrimination that followed,
1035
00:58:43,106 --> 00:58:45,775
Black Americans have
made astounding progress,
1036
00:58:45,776 --> 00:58:49,154
not only for ourselves but
also for all Americans.
1037
00:58:50,697 --> 00:58:55,201
Our struggles and strivings have
made America more fair and more just.
1038
00:58:55,202 --> 00:58:57,453
And as much
democracy as we have,
1039
00:58:57,454 --> 00:58:59,705
it has been born of
Black resistance.
1040
00:58:59,706 --> 00:59:01,374
In other words,
1041
00:59:01,375 --> 00:59:05,336
the very people who were never
supposed to be a part of our democracy
1042
00:59:05,337 --> 00:59:08,048
have played the most
pivotal role in creating it.
1043
00:59:12,302 --> 00:59:14,470
So what if America understood,
1044
00:59:14,471 --> 00:59:18,057
finally, now, after 400 years,
1045
00:59:18,058 --> 00:59:20,893
that Black people have
never been the problem
1046
00:59:20,894 --> 00:59:22,312
but the solution?
1047
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,160
But that solution came
at a tremendous cost,
1048
00:59:38,161 --> 00:59:41,123
and so much of it has
been borne by Black women.
1049
00:59:42,249 --> 00:59:45,751
There's a direct link
to maternal mortality today
1050
00:59:45,752 --> 00:59:48,714
and the challenges that women
had giving birth during slavery.
1051
00:59:49,381 --> 00:59:50,673
What did she tell you?
1052
00:59:50,674 --> 00:59:54,386
- She said, "Baby A
doesn't have a heartbeat."
1053
00:59:55,137 --> 00:59:57,513
And I couldn't understand.
I'm like, "I don't..."
1054
00:59:57,514 --> 00:59:59,266
I'm like, "I don't understand."
1055
01:00:00,184 --> 01:00:04,729
The legacy of slavery
is so ingrained in our system,
1056
01:00:04,730 --> 01:00:06,064
and we don't even see it.
93942
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