Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:24,896 --> 00:00:30,793
It was
an awfully brutal, cold day.
2
00:00:30,793 --> 00:00:36,827
One of our city workers
was up in a bucket truck
working on a light signal.
3
00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:45,172
And he heard what he thought
was a backfire.
4
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,689
And he noticed a truck
lurching forward
5
00:00:51,689 --> 00:00:54,103
in a very slow
and jerky manner.
6
00:00:55,586 --> 00:00:59,620
And he thought
the driver suffered
some medical emergency.
7
00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:01,034
Bob,
what do you got up there?
8
00:01:01,034 --> 00:01:02,482
10-4,
all right, he's in trouble.
9
00:01:03,862 --> 00:01:06,793
Spotted a truck on location.
Front is stuck in the dirt.
10
00:01:06,793 --> 00:01:08,206
The bullet
went through the windshield
11
00:01:08,206 --> 00:01:09,172
and hit him in the chest.
12
00:01:11,724 --> 00:01:14,000
Rex Harper was
driving his dump truck.
13
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000
Witnesses report
hearing a single gunshot.
14
00:01:17,172 --> 00:01:19,689
Every town in
Oklahoma had a lawless past.
15
00:01:21,172 --> 00:01:23,827
This was the Indian Territory.
It was lawless.
16
00:01:23,827 --> 00:01:26,310
It had no organized
law enforcement other than
17
00:01:26,310 --> 00:01:29,379
the US Marshal from Fort Smith
and the US Calvary.
18
00:01:32,172 --> 00:01:34,793
In the cowboy culture,
we had a saying.
19
00:01:36,103 --> 00:01:38,896
"Do it alone. Do it at night.
20
00:01:38,896 --> 00:01:41,413
And don't ever
tell anybody about it."
21
00:02:26,482 --> 00:02:30,000
Tommy can
hear everybody in Oklahoma
right now.
22
00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,103
To the red, white, and blue
of Old Glory.
23
00:02:37,896 --> 00:02:39,517
Oklahoma's
a cowboy state.
24
00:02:39,517 --> 00:02:41,413
Come on,
make some noise, now!
25
00:02:41,413 --> 00:02:45,000
You can go
any direction
26
00:02:46,724 --> 00:02:49,586
and there's rodeo arenas,
27
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,517
there's horses...
28
00:02:54,517 --> 00:02:56,620
Come on now,
cowboy. Come on now.
29
00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:58,000
...there are cowboys.
30
00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,482
How 'bout it,
everybody? Doc Worthington.
31
00:02:59,482 --> 00:03:01,620
Come on, stay with her.
Ride it, now.
32
00:03:01,620 --> 00:03:02,724
Would I trade it?
33
00:03:03,793 --> 00:03:06,689
No. Wouldn't trade it
for nothing in the world.
34
00:03:15,103 --> 00:03:16,724
Everybody knew the Harpers.
35
00:03:18,793 --> 00:03:23,517
You could go on any street
and mention the Harpers
36
00:03:23,517 --> 00:03:25,172
and everybody knew them.
37
00:03:25,172 --> 00:03:30,586
Bobby, Billy,
Ralph, Mark, Rex.
38
00:03:30,586 --> 00:03:34,000
They were Harpers. They grew
up right here in Broken Arrow.
39
00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,482
And Ralph Harper,
40
00:03:39,482 --> 00:03:41,275
legendary cowboy.
41
00:03:42,517 --> 00:03:43,896
Tougher than a boot.
42
00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,793
Rex was the nephew
to Ralph Harper.
43
00:03:52,103 --> 00:03:54,379
You know I was
talking to Rex before
the race down there.
44
00:03:54,379 --> 00:03:55,482
He's a Broken Arrow boy.
45
00:03:55,482 --> 00:03:58,172
I've known him,
known him all his life.
46
00:03:58,172 --> 00:04:03,103
After Rodeo, you know,
dirt racing is really big
in Oklahoma.
47
00:04:05,068 --> 00:04:09,172
My uncle was a big time racer.
He was one of the good ones.
48
00:04:09,172 --> 00:04:12,620
He was a spring car racer
so we'd go to Tulsa Speedway
49
00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:14,931
and Rujo and Port City.
50
00:04:14,931 --> 00:04:17,793
Rex Harper,
running by himself
in the fourth row.
51
00:04:17,793 --> 00:04:18,862
I was
giving him a hard time
52
00:04:18,862 --> 00:04:20,896
about starting driving
so old last time.
53
00:04:20,896 --> 00:04:22,724
He started in his late
20s or 30s.
54
00:04:24,586 --> 00:04:26,896
Rex was
very passionate about driving.
55
00:04:26,896 --> 00:04:29,172
You know,
he did good for what he had.
56
00:04:30,620 --> 00:04:32,931
But then Rex meet Karie
57
00:04:32,931 --> 00:04:37,620
and he got married, uh,
kind of just out of the blue.
58
00:04:40,689 --> 00:04:42,896
I was shocked, but I'm a guy.
59
00:04:42,896 --> 00:04:47,310
And I wasn't going to
lecture him on, you know,
his decisions.
60
00:04:52,586 --> 00:04:55,310
Rex and I meet
in the spring.
61
00:04:55,310 --> 00:04:59,517
It didn't take much
for the spark to begin
and then fall in love.
62
00:04:59,517 --> 00:05:02,896
And we were married
three months after we meet.
63
00:05:05,724 --> 00:05:09,931
I was very excited
to marry him and to
build a future together.
64
00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,689
He was such a kind,
gentle person, very funny.
65
00:05:17,689 --> 00:05:19,482
Anything that he could do
to get you to laugh,
66
00:05:19,482 --> 00:05:22,103
that was
very important to him.
67
00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:27,000
Our wedding was,
um, not a big affair.
68
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,172
And, you know, we were young
and we were on a budget.
69
00:05:31,379 --> 00:05:36,379
But it was very pretty,
very lovely and very romantic.
70
00:05:37,896 --> 00:05:39,586
I went to Rex
and Karie's wedding.
71
00:05:39,586 --> 00:05:41,620
It was beautiful.
A little chapel in the woods.
72
00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:43,793
We were so happy for them.
73
00:05:43,793 --> 00:05:45,620
Rex was ecstatic
when he got married.
74
00:05:45,620 --> 00:05:47,620
He was,
he was so proud of her.
75
00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:50,103
She was beautiful
and she was fun and
the whole family loved her.
76
00:05:50,103 --> 00:05:53,310
They were great until
things started to unravel.
77
00:05:53,310 --> 00:05:54,827
I don't think she realized
78
00:05:54,827 --> 00:05:56,689
what was going on
behind closed doors.
79
00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:07,275
In Broken Arrow, our
crime has been kept fairly low
80
00:06:07,275 --> 00:06:09,517
which I'm proud of.
81
00:06:09,517 --> 00:06:13,000
I can attribute a lot of that
to the policing.
82
00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,068
Our insignia is BAPD
on our collar brass.
83
00:06:17,068 --> 00:06:19,689
That stands for
Bad Ass Police Department.
84
00:06:22,896 --> 00:06:25,482
But this particular day
was different.
85
00:06:28,103 --> 00:06:29,931
I had gotten back from lunch.
86
00:06:32,689 --> 00:06:34,517
And I got a call
from dispatch.
87
00:06:36,172 --> 00:06:39,275
And they said, "Come
to the scene immediately.
88
00:06:39,275 --> 00:06:41,172
We've had a homicide
on Main Street."
89
00:06:43,068 --> 00:06:45,827
It was sleeting.
It was very cold.
90
00:06:45,827 --> 00:06:47,586
And, drove to the crime scene.
91
00:06:50,172 --> 00:06:55,620
And, sure enough,
we were confronted with
an horrific crime
92
00:06:55,620 --> 00:06:58,689
of a man, driving
in his dump truck being shot
93
00:06:58,689 --> 00:07:02,068
with a high-powered rifle, uh,
through the chest.
94
00:07:05,586 --> 00:07:09,206
By the time I got here,
he was laying in the grass
right over there.
95
00:07:13,206 --> 00:07:16,896
I climbed up into the truck
and saw the bullet hole
96
00:07:16,896 --> 00:07:18,413
and I thought, "Wow."
97
00:07:19,896 --> 00:07:24,275
It was such
a perfectly aimed shot
98
00:07:24,275 --> 00:07:27,000
that if it had been
a half an inch lower,
99
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,172
it probably
would have hit the hood,
100
00:07:29,172 --> 00:07:32,793
gone through the engine block
and not have hit him.
101
00:07:35,793 --> 00:07:40,724
I wasn't here
20 seconds before I was
contacting the chief
102
00:07:40,724 --> 00:07:43,482
and telling him,
"You need to come down here."
103
00:07:43,482 --> 00:07:46,310
He was incredulous and said,
104
00:07:46,310 --> 00:07:49,172
"Aw, come on, we don't have
murderers in Broken Arrow."
105
00:07:49,172 --> 00:07:50,793
And I said, "I know."
106
00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,827
Our victim's name
was Rex Wayne Harper.
107
00:08:01,896 --> 00:08:05,482
I knew some,
some Harpers myself, so...
108
00:08:05,482 --> 00:08:07,689
Good people, hard-working.
109
00:08:12,172 --> 00:08:15,000
I was working there
in Broken Arrow and, uh...
110
00:08:17,172 --> 00:08:19,379
And, you know, my dad,
he walked up to me and said,
111
00:08:19,379 --> 00:08:22,793
"Hey, they've,
they've killed your uncle.
You know, we need to go."
112
00:08:24,482 --> 00:08:27,206
So, we drove straight down
to Main Street.
113
00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,827
I remember pulling up and
114
00:08:29,827 --> 00:08:32,206
Rex's dump truck
was sitting there,
115
00:08:32,206 --> 00:08:34,000
kind of over on the curb.
116
00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,689
And there was,
there was a body lying there.
117
00:08:55,172 --> 00:08:57,793
It was major shocking.
118
00:08:57,793 --> 00:09:01,517
You know, you don't ever think
of stuff like that happens
to you until it does.
119
00:09:05,275 --> 00:09:07,517
When we went down
to Casey's Mattress World
120
00:09:07,517 --> 00:09:10,586
where Rex's wife Karie worked,
121
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,931
I was a little surprised
by her response.
122
00:09:15,931 --> 00:09:18,000
She fake teared.
123
00:09:21,379 --> 00:09:24,172
I could not process
what was going on.
124
00:09:24,172 --> 00:09:27,896
I was just face to face with
him just a few minutes ago.
125
00:09:27,896 --> 00:09:30,586
When you tell me
that he has been killed,
126
00:09:30,586 --> 00:09:33,172
I didn't, I couldn't
understand what that meant.
127
00:09:33,172 --> 00:09:36,103
And I just kept saying,
"I don't understand."
128
00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,103
I cannot say that she seemed
overly shocked.
129
00:09:43,103 --> 00:09:47,206
Uh, I cannot say
that initially she
130
00:09:47,206 --> 00:09:49,586
broke down in any way.
131
00:09:49,586 --> 00:09:53,689
But I also know that people
respond to that kind of news
132
00:09:53,689 --> 00:09:55,793
in very different ways.
133
00:09:55,793 --> 00:09:59,275
But I will say that
it gave me some pause.
134
00:09:59,275 --> 00:10:02,689
And it was something
that I wanted to ponder.
135
00:10:09,172 --> 00:10:14,275
My very first
assignment was to canvas
the residential area
136
00:10:14,275 --> 00:10:16,793
near where
the vehicle ended up.
137
00:10:19,724 --> 00:10:21,689
We knocked on doors
and tried to find out
138
00:10:21,689 --> 00:10:23,379
if anybody saw
or heard anything.
139
00:10:27,793 --> 00:10:29,586
There were people
that heard the shot.
140
00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,379
I found nobody
that had seen anything.
141
00:10:35,689 --> 00:10:39,793
This was one of
the most bizarre murders.
142
00:10:39,793 --> 00:10:43,931
The very fact that someone
had the gall, the audacity,
143
00:10:43,931 --> 00:10:48,275
to stand in broad daylight
on Main Street.
144
00:10:50,896 --> 00:10:54,689
We had zero eyewitnesses.
145
00:10:54,689 --> 00:10:58,517
And we had no real clues
146
00:10:58,517 --> 00:11:02,724
except his body, his truck,
and the bullet hole.
147
00:11:19,172 --> 00:11:22,517
I was
born here about
three blocks up the street.
148
00:11:23,758 --> 00:11:26,413
Broken Arrow was a great place
to grow up.
149
00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:31,379
We'd run around town
when we were kids,
150
00:11:32,689 --> 00:11:37,103
barefoot, seeing what kind of
trouble we could get in.
151
00:11:37,103 --> 00:11:38,586
There really wasn't nothing.
152
00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,103
I never had any real problems
with anybody.
153
00:11:44,103 --> 00:11:47,517
Got along pretty good
with most folks.
154
00:11:47,517 --> 00:11:50,103
You're going to run into
an idiot every now and then
155
00:11:50,103 --> 00:11:51,586
no matter where you are.
156
00:11:59,758 --> 00:12:01,275
Everybody was devastated.
157
00:12:01,275 --> 00:12:03,896
My grandparents
were just all in shock.
158
00:12:03,896 --> 00:12:06,103
We just couldn't believe
that something like this
could happen.
159
00:12:09,758 --> 00:12:13,379
Rex was the good one.
Just excellent man.
160
00:12:13,379 --> 00:12:15,965
So we all kind of gathered
at my grandpa's house
161
00:12:15,965 --> 00:12:18,965
where everybody tried to talk
and cried and mourned and
162
00:12:18,965 --> 00:12:21,482
tried to figure out, you know,
what had happened.
163
00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000
We didn't really
see Karie much.
164
00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,620
We would try
to reach out to her,
165
00:12:26,620 --> 00:12:29,275
but I don't recall her
ever getting in touch with us.
166
00:12:31,793 --> 00:12:35,275
Our biggest question
was how did the shooter know
167
00:12:35,275 --> 00:12:38,275
how to be in that location
168
00:12:38,275 --> 00:12:41,896
at that strip mall
in Broken Arrow
169
00:12:41,896 --> 00:12:45,000
at that time
to be able to pull the trigger
170
00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,655
and kill Rex Harper?
171
00:12:48,172 --> 00:12:51,379
The first thing
we needed to do was find out
why Rex was shot.
172
00:12:52,379 --> 00:12:54,000
What might have been
the motive?
173
00:12:56,413 --> 00:12:59,000
This area is where
the business,
174
00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,275
Casey's Mattress World
was located
175
00:13:01,275 --> 00:13:02,862
that Karie worked at.
176
00:13:04,896 --> 00:13:07,620
Rex would have parked
his dump truck
177
00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:11,206
somewhere in this vicinity
to visit with her that day.
178
00:13:11,206 --> 00:13:14,896
And as he pulled out,
he would have turned
179
00:13:14,896 --> 00:13:18,275
to go out the exit
in this direction.
180
00:13:20,379 --> 00:13:24,586
After the shot was fired
and Rex was struck,
181
00:13:24,586 --> 00:13:30,172
he slumped over in his truck
and his foot hit the gas.
182
00:13:30,172 --> 00:13:34,482
Rex's truck ended up right
across the street over there.
183
00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:41,275
Shooting through a windshield
in broad daylight
184
00:13:41,275 --> 00:13:45,689
from a hidden position,
one shot to kill Rex Harper?
185
00:13:47,689 --> 00:13:50,965
To me that sounded like
a professional hit.
186
00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:58,896
But why take out Rex Harper?
187
00:14:03,310 --> 00:14:06,793
We wanted to know if
there was any kind of grudge
188
00:14:06,793 --> 00:14:11,793
or any kind of disgruntled
situation going on.
189
00:14:15,896 --> 00:14:18,758
We needed to find out
who would want this man dead.
190
00:14:26,413 --> 00:14:30,793
We knew that Rex was
involved in car racing.
191
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,620
It's a competitive sport.
192
00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:43,310
You know, people drive to win.
193
00:14:46,103 --> 00:14:50,172
And you never know
if somebody's going to
get bowed up
194
00:14:50,172 --> 00:14:53,689
about maybe him cutting
him off and winning a race.
195
00:14:58,586 --> 00:15:00,793
Maybe there was
a race car driver
196
00:15:00,793 --> 00:15:03,000
who had issues with Rex.
197
00:15:09,517 --> 00:15:12,275
Rex was not one of the bigger
names in the racing community.
198
00:15:12,275 --> 00:15:15,275
Uh, but he was
a very well-liked guy.
199
00:15:17,689 --> 00:15:19,275
A lot of fun to be around.
200
00:15:20,172 --> 00:15:21,793
He knew a lot of people.
201
00:15:23,793 --> 00:15:27,896
I do not think that there was
anybody at the races
202
00:15:27,896 --> 00:15:30,793
that would have
anything against Rex.
203
00:15:33,689 --> 00:15:36,000
That theory
didn't last too long.
204
00:15:41,482 --> 00:15:45,413
My partner and I went out
to where Rex was working
205
00:15:45,413 --> 00:15:49,000
to see if there'd been
any kind of altercations
at his place of business.
206
00:15:52,482 --> 00:15:56,000
The boss had nothing
but good things to say.
207
00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,103
In talking to some
of the other employees,
208
00:15:58,103 --> 00:15:59,862
they all seemed to like him.
209
00:16:05,758 --> 00:16:07,965
Rex had no enemies
that we knew of.
210
00:16:07,965 --> 00:16:09,482
I mean,
he was just a good guy.
211
00:16:18,896 --> 00:16:22,275
I could not
come to a conclusion
212
00:16:22,275 --> 00:16:26,000
of how the shooter would have
been in the right place
213
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,413
at the right time
in front of Karie's business
214
00:16:29,413 --> 00:16:34,103
with Rex being there
and him being able
to pull the trigger.
215
00:16:38,172 --> 00:16:41,862
And the only thing
that I could determine is that
216
00:16:41,862 --> 00:16:45,000
Karie probably had
something to do with it.
217
00:16:49,586 --> 00:16:52,379
I decided to go and see Karie.
218
00:16:54,620 --> 00:16:56,793
I took her to a cafe
219
00:16:56,793 --> 00:17:00,172
and just asked her
if she had any idea
220
00:17:00,172 --> 00:17:03,793
who might be responsible
for killing him.
221
00:17:06,896 --> 00:17:08,689
She seemed distracted.
222
00:17:09,793 --> 00:17:13,103
And there were many times
in the interview
223
00:17:13,103 --> 00:17:15,896
where she made the statement,
"I didn't kill Rex."
224
00:17:22,689 --> 00:17:26,586
It just seemed very odd that
she would continue to say,
225
00:17:26,586 --> 00:17:30,517
"I didn't kill Rex. I didn't
kill him. I didn't kill him."
226
00:17:34,689 --> 00:17:38,103
I found it out of place
because we knew that.
227
00:17:38,103 --> 00:17:40,206
She was working in the store.
228
00:17:40,206 --> 00:17:42,413
There was no way
she could have done it.
229
00:17:49,793 --> 00:17:52,275
Now, there's a lot
of rumors in the barber shop.
230
00:17:54,413 --> 00:17:57,689
You never know which ones to
believe and which ones not to.
231
00:17:57,689 --> 00:18:00,275
And I take them all
with a grain of salt.
232
00:18:02,965 --> 00:18:06,689
The rumor I heard his wife
was seeing some guy and
233
00:18:07,379 --> 00:18:09,310
Rex confronted him.
234
00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:13,000
And as he was leaving
Rex got shot.
235
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,517
It seems like that guy got him
from quite a distance.
236
00:18:19,689 --> 00:18:21,896
Maybe 100 yards or so.
237
00:18:26,896 --> 00:18:30,586
We had no idea that Karie
had someone else in her life,
238
00:18:30,586 --> 00:18:34,758
um, until I was with her
at the shop one time
239
00:18:34,758 --> 00:18:36,689
and a man came in.
240
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,517
Very angry, throwing
all of her stuff around.
241
00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:46,275
And I could hear him yelling
and fighting in the back.
242
00:18:48,413 --> 00:18:52,275
I was only, like, 11, so I
didn't know what was going on.
243
00:18:52,275 --> 00:18:55,793
And then I find out
that was Stan Williamson.
244
00:19:01,103 --> 00:19:05,793
I meet Stan
four years prior to
my relationship with Rex.
245
00:19:07,068 --> 00:19:12,103
And it was not
a good relationship
between Stan and I.
246
00:19:12,103 --> 00:19:15,000
Um, he was very controlling.
247
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,172
Um, narcissistic tendencies.
248
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,275
Very manipulative
249
00:19:26,275 --> 00:19:29,586
in the sense that what
I could and could not do,
250
00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:31,379
where I could
and could not go,
251
00:19:32,482 --> 00:19:34,068
the people that I spoke with.
252
00:19:36,517 --> 00:19:39,689
It wasn't a relationship
that I wanted to remain in.
253
00:19:41,620 --> 00:19:44,793
And it took me
three years to leave.
254
00:19:47,793 --> 00:19:50,379
Stan was enraged with me
for leaving.
255
00:19:50,379 --> 00:19:53,310
And he wanted me to come back.
256
00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:57,793
Stanley Claude Williamson
257
00:19:58,793 --> 00:20:02,517
was quite the icon
in rodeo circles.
258
00:20:02,517 --> 00:20:03,965
I mean, he was a hero.
259
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,689
Come on, people.
Make some noise.
Let me hear you.
260
00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:18,068
Because Stan is
a two-time world champion
steer wrestler.
261
00:20:24,172 --> 00:20:26,379
The best way
to describe steer wrestling
262
00:20:26,379 --> 00:20:29,000
is running down
the football field
263
00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:32,275
about 25, 30 miles an hour
264
00:20:34,586 --> 00:20:36,517
and jump off.
265
00:20:36,517 --> 00:20:39,586
And wrestle that steer
right down to the ground.
266
00:20:43,965 --> 00:20:47,413
Stanley was a very
polished steer wrestler.
267
00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:51,379
If you was at a rodeo
competing against Stan,
268
00:20:52,586 --> 00:20:53,689
one of you gonna lose
269
00:20:53,689 --> 00:20:55,482
and it probably
wasn't gonna be Stan.
270
00:20:59,275 --> 00:21:04,103
And when
you have a champion
rodeo hero like Stan,
271
00:21:04,103 --> 00:21:08,172
a lot of people are gonna want
to be in his inner circle.
272
00:21:08,172 --> 00:21:11,482
So, it was a daunting task,
273
00:21:11,482 --> 00:21:13,586
finding people
willing to talk.
274
00:21:16,689 --> 00:21:20,206
It was like trying to get
an interview with a celebrity.
275
00:21:22,275 --> 00:21:24,068
No one would tell us
where he was.
276
00:21:28,206 --> 00:21:31,310
I mean,
you're either in or you're out
of that community.
277
00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:35,896
And, if you're an outsider,
you're going to be shunned.
278
00:21:35,896 --> 00:21:38,793
"Stan who? I don't know Stan."
279
00:21:43,413 --> 00:21:45,379
He was a good cowboy.
He was a brother.
280
00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:51,103
That cowboy bond.
That's how that works.
281
00:21:51,103 --> 00:21:53,965
"I didn't see nothing.
I didn't hear nothing.
282
00:21:53,965 --> 00:21:55,206
And I don't know nothing."
283
00:21:58,379 --> 00:22:01,689
Ultimately, we were
able to establish that
284
00:22:01,689 --> 00:22:03,689
at the time Rex was shot,
285
00:22:03,689 --> 00:22:06,275
Stan Williamson
wasn't in Broken Arrow.
286
00:22:08,482 --> 00:22:13,275
He was in Oklahoma City
in a rodeo competition.
287
00:22:13,275 --> 00:22:19,000
And, so, he was
unable to actually
pull the trigger that day.
288
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,862
So, who pulled the trigger
and killed this
289
00:22:21,862 --> 00:22:24,896
man so loved by his family?
290
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,379
We were honestly all scared
291
00:22:56,379 --> 00:22:58,034
because they didn't find
the shooter.
292
00:22:58,034 --> 00:23:00,137
So who knows who's next?
293
00:23:00,137 --> 00:23:02,896
It could've been my dad,
it could've been
my other uncles,
294
00:23:02,896 --> 00:23:04,655
we didn't know what
was gonna happen.
295
00:23:04,655 --> 00:23:05,827
Could've been my grandparents.
296
00:23:09,344 --> 00:23:12,551
We talked to Rex's
family members,
his mom and dad.
297
00:23:13,482 --> 00:23:15,275
And without fail,
298
00:23:15,275 --> 00:23:18,793
they said that he
was being harassed
by Stan Williamson.
299
00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:25,379
So obviously all eyes
are focused on him again.
300
00:23:44,758 --> 00:23:47,482
We had no shortage
of people
301
00:23:47,482 --> 00:23:50,793
who told us that they
had seen Karie
302
00:23:50,793 --> 00:23:53,689
with Stan Williamson
on numerous occasions.
303
00:23:56,965 --> 00:24:00,379
And so I decided to take
another run at Karie.
304
00:24:04,482 --> 00:24:06,482
I really went at her
pretty hard.
305
00:24:08,172 --> 00:24:10,275
I asked her really
hard questions.
306
00:24:14,034 --> 00:24:17,689
Initially she tried
the whole, "No,
I broke it off with Stan,"
307
00:24:17,689 --> 00:24:20,241
until we confronted
her with the names
308
00:24:20,241 --> 00:24:23,241
of people who actually
had seen her with Stan.
309
00:24:26,344 --> 00:24:28,793
We basically said,
"We know that's a lie."
310
00:24:32,586 --> 00:24:34,689
And we finally got her
to admit
311
00:24:34,689 --> 00:24:36,586
that she was still seeing him.
312
00:24:38,965 --> 00:24:41,172
But she insisted that
she didn't kill him.
313
00:24:41,172 --> 00:24:43,655
And that she didn't know...
314
00:24:43,655 --> 00:24:45,206
...she didn't know
that it was gonna happen.
315
00:24:49,172 --> 00:24:52,379
They kept me
in an interrogation room
for four hours.
316
00:24:52,379 --> 00:24:55,275
I think I was in
so much shock...
317
00:24:55,965 --> 00:24:57,275
...and terror.
318
00:24:57,275 --> 00:24:59,137
I cried for four solid hours.
319
00:24:59,137 --> 00:25:01,379
I couldn't comprehend
what was going on.
320
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,793
I don't know if I felt
that they thought I was
a part of it,
321
00:25:06,793 --> 00:25:08,448
or if they were...
322
00:25:08,448 --> 00:25:12,482
...looking for me
to provide additional
information that I didn't...
323
00:25:13,448 --> 00:25:14,379
...give them.
324
00:25:16,793 --> 00:25:18,482
But I also believe that
325
00:25:18,482 --> 00:25:21,586
I didn't have whatever it is
that they were looking for,
326
00:25:21,586 --> 00:25:23,172
and I just kept telling
them that.
327
00:25:23,172 --> 00:25:25,275
"I have no information
for you.
328
00:25:25,275 --> 00:25:27,758
I don't know what
it is that you need
329
00:25:27,758 --> 00:25:28,689
or what you're looking for.
330
00:25:28,689 --> 00:25:30,275
I don't have the answers."
331
00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:36,758
Feelings changed
for Karie when we started
realizing that
332
00:25:36,758 --> 00:25:39,379
she took every bit
of his belongings.
333
00:25:39,379 --> 00:25:43,551
She didn't try to get
with the family
and talk about Rex
334
00:25:43,551 --> 00:25:45,344
or talk about what
had happened.
335
00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:46,482
It was just...
336
00:25:46,482 --> 00:25:48,689
she was... took his stuff
and she was gone.
337
00:26:15,689 --> 00:26:20,137
I do believe that
the Harper family think
that I didn't care.
338
00:26:20,137 --> 00:26:22,000
And that I was heartless.
339
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,689
And that I didn't
care about Rex and...
340
00:26:26,068 --> 00:26:28,275
...it was completely
the opposite.
341
00:26:28,275 --> 00:26:32,068
I don't know what I could
have done to make them less...
342
00:26:33,655 --> 00:26:35,241
...sad or angry.
343
00:26:40,586 --> 00:26:44,482
One of the things
that we found when
checking our records
344
00:26:44,482 --> 00:26:49,482
was that Rex had actually
filed a Destruction
of Private Property Report...
345
00:26:49,482 --> 00:26:53,000
...and listed Stan Williamson
as the suspect.
346
00:26:57,586 --> 00:27:00,275
We had a shop
that had the dump
trucks in it
347
00:27:00,275 --> 00:27:02,275
and my Uncle Rex's
rent car was there.
348
00:27:02,275 --> 00:27:03,931
Nice classic cars,
349
00:27:03,931 --> 00:27:07,034
that my brothers and Dad
and grandpa had worked
so hard for,
350
00:27:07,034 --> 00:27:08,689
and he burned it all down.
351
00:27:20,137 --> 00:27:22,275
We knew he was
very jealous.
352
00:27:22,275 --> 00:27:24,000
Very possessive.
353
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,379
And probably very...
354
00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:31,689
...angry that someone
would actually have
the nerve...
355
00:27:32,896 --> 00:27:33,862
...to break up with him.
356
00:27:36,758 --> 00:27:39,448
We began to suspect
that Stan...
357
00:27:39,448 --> 00:27:43,482
...had coordinated
some type of murder
for hire.
358
00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:48,551
So my partner and I
went back to Oklahoma City.
359
00:27:54,482 --> 00:27:56,379
We figured if he
was gonna get someone
360
00:27:56,379 --> 00:27:58,862
to commit a crime
of this magnitude
361
00:27:58,862 --> 00:28:03,448
it'd probably be
somebody in the rodeo circuit.
362
00:28:03,448 --> 00:28:07,137
We knew we had to find
the actual person who
pulled the trigger.
363
00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:27,275
As a kid growing up...
364
00:28:29,103 --> 00:28:31,275
...get some rope
and, you know,
rode some bulls.
365
00:28:33,103 --> 00:28:35,379
So I was familiar
with the community.
366
00:28:39,068 --> 00:28:42,275
The rodeo community
like many cultures
367
00:28:42,275 --> 00:28:45,172
is pretty
closed off.
368
00:28:55,172 --> 00:28:56,758
You're not going to just...
369
00:28:56,758 --> 00:28:58,758
...you know, walk
into a bar and say,
370
00:28:58,758 --> 00:29:01,137
"Hey, is there anybody here
knows about a shooting on Main
Street in Broken Arrow?"
371
00:29:04,655 --> 00:29:06,137
We had to kinda seek out
372
00:29:06,137 --> 00:29:09,172
some of the cowboys there
to find out if they knew Stan,
373
00:29:09,172 --> 00:29:11,068
and if they'd seen him around.
374
00:29:13,241 --> 00:29:15,862
We kept going
because we knew,
that eventually,
375
00:29:15,862 --> 00:29:19,482
we would get
to the bottom of it
if we just stayed with it.
376
00:29:22,137 --> 00:29:24,793
And we actually found
someone that said
377
00:29:24,793 --> 00:29:27,482
that they heard Stan
Williamson talking
378
00:29:27,482 --> 00:29:30,689
to people about
who would be willing
379
00:29:30,689 --> 00:29:33,551
to... kill a man
that lived in Broken Arrow.
380
00:29:36,896 --> 00:29:40,965
And so we were finally
able to make the headway
that we needed.
381
00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:49,655
It was through subpoenaing
Stan's Williamson's
cellphone records.
382
00:29:49,655 --> 00:29:52,758
that we found a series
of calls
383
00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:55,275
ending abruptly
the day of the murder.
384
00:29:56,965 --> 00:30:01,275
These were all
people who were part
of Stan's circle.
385
00:30:02,448 --> 00:30:04,275
There was a man
named Bubby Hayes...
386
00:30:06,172 --> 00:30:07,862
...Spider Gibbs...
387
00:30:07,862 --> 00:30:09,724
...and Alton Gibson.
388
00:30:11,275 --> 00:30:17,586
It seemed as though Stan
may have solicited all of them
at one time or another...
389
00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:20,793
...to commit the crime
of murder against Rex Harper.
390
00:30:24,172 --> 00:30:26,965
They were all
well-known crooks...
391
00:30:27,689 --> 00:30:28,896
...low lives...
392
00:30:29,586 --> 00:30:30,965
...thieves.
393
00:30:30,965 --> 00:30:33,172
They were pretty much
the known...
394
00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:34,655
...thugs in that area.
395
00:30:39,482 --> 00:30:41,103
And then Bubby Hayes
went on the run.
396
00:30:43,896 --> 00:30:46,655
So we reached out
to the U.S. Marshals.
397
00:30:51,241 --> 00:30:54,241
I became
an expert marksman
while with the U.S. Marshals.
398
00:30:56,896 --> 00:30:58,551
I do cowboy action shooting.
399
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,896
The Broken Arrow
Police Department
had contacted me
400
00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:07,965
and said that it may have been
a murder for hire.
401
00:31:10,448 --> 00:31:12,689
Stan Williamson
was the primary suspect.
402
00:31:12,689 --> 00:31:17,344
And he had many contacts
who were rugged and tough
403
00:31:17,344 --> 00:31:19,551
and dangerous enough
to pull this off.
404
00:31:19,551 --> 00:31:20,482
But one of them...
405
00:31:21,172 --> 00:31:22,000
...was on the run.
406
00:31:22,689 --> 00:31:23,896
And that was Bubby Hayes.
407
00:31:28,172 --> 00:31:31,172
This was the last known
location of Bubby Hayes.
408
00:31:33,034 --> 00:31:35,379
Right over here there's
a, uh, house
409
00:31:35,379 --> 00:31:38,655
that he was reportedly
living in before he fled.
410
00:31:40,379 --> 00:31:45,000
The file said there
was an individual there
named Hans Marshal...
411
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,758
He and Bubby Hayes
lived together.
412
00:31:47,758 --> 00:31:52,793
Hans Marshall was
a known bad guy,
he was a dangerous guy.
413
00:31:52,793 --> 00:31:56,034
So my team of marshals
approached this house,
knocked on the door...
414
00:31:56,896 --> 00:31:59,379
...and Hans Marshall
said, "Come in."
415
00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:00,896
So, in we went.
416
00:32:07,379 --> 00:32:08,620
It was fairly dark,
417
00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:10,793
the only light was coming
from a lamp and a chair
418
00:32:10,793 --> 00:32:14,068
where Hans Marshall sat
quietly, all by himself.
419
00:32:16,172 --> 00:32:18,482
And next to him
on a side table...
420
00:32:19,344 --> 00:32:21,172
...is a semi-automatic pistol.
421
00:32:21,172 --> 00:32:22,379
It's pointed right at us.
422
00:32:27,379 --> 00:32:29,379
I step over to him and say...
423
00:32:29,379 --> 00:32:31,379
..."Hans, I'm gonna
pick this pistol up
424
00:32:31,379 --> 00:32:32,793
and we're gonna move
it outta the way.
425
00:32:35,586 --> 00:32:37,275
I don't think we want
this to end up in a gunfight."
426
00:32:39,172 --> 00:32:40,379
Never said a word.
427
00:32:40,896 --> 00:32:42,172
Never moved a muscle.
428
00:32:42,172 --> 00:32:43,896
Just completely quiet.
429
00:32:46,896 --> 00:32:49,068
And when I moved the pistol
to the kitchen table,
430
00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:51,896
I saw there were some
belongings on the kitchen table.
431
00:32:51,896 --> 00:32:55,275
And sitting at the very top
is a map, an old paper map
432
00:32:55,275 --> 00:32:58,586
with the area of downtown
Broken Arrow facing out.
433
00:33:01,965 --> 00:33:04,241
And I look at it
and there's a tiny
pencil circle
434
00:33:04,241 --> 00:33:08,448
drawn right in the area
where Rex Harper was killed.
435
00:33:11,896 --> 00:33:14,241
And I turned to Hans
and said, "Is this your map?"
436
00:33:15,344 --> 00:33:17,172
And he said, "No,
that's Bubby's stuff."
437
00:33:17,172 --> 00:33:19,379
That he was gonna come
back and get it,
he just never did.
438
00:33:30,275 --> 00:33:31,379
We tracked down...
439
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:33,586
...Bubby Hayes' girlfriend.
440
00:33:35,551 --> 00:33:38,482
And she was a handful
to say the least.
441
00:33:38,482 --> 00:33:40,862
She was as mean as a snake.
442
00:33:42,689 --> 00:33:44,793
We interviewed her
multiple times.
443
00:33:44,793 --> 00:33:49,448
And she would just rail
at the marshals.
444
00:33:49,448 --> 00:33:53,448
Slam the doors at us,
uh, just curse us.
445
00:33:57,793 --> 00:33:59,896
But then she called
the marshals office...
446
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000
...and gave us...
447
00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:04,827
...a tag number.
448
00:34:08,241 --> 00:34:10,068
It was just a change
of the winds.
449
00:34:10,586 --> 00:34:11,586
Never knew why.
450
00:34:13,758 --> 00:34:15,482
We ran this tag number...
451
00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:18,689
...it came back to a light
blue Ford Bronco.
452
00:34:18,689 --> 00:34:21,137
We put out a BOLO,
Be On the Look Out.
453
00:34:28,379 --> 00:34:30,000
And within two days...
454
00:34:31,896 --> 00:34:35,689
...an off-duty police
officer working
security at a casino...
455
00:34:35,689 --> 00:34:38,275
...found that vehicle sitting
in the parking lot
in Northern Texas.
456
00:34:39,586 --> 00:34:42,137
Yet, minutes before
we got there...
457
00:34:42,137 --> 00:34:44,551
...Bubby Hayes had walked
out of that casino...
458
00:34:44,551 --> 00:34:46,482
...got into that Ford Bronco.
459
00:34:46,482 --> 00:34:49,344
And as we are pulling
into the parking lot
of that casino,
460
00:34:49,344 --> 00:34:50,655
he takes off.
461
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:54,034
And the police
take him down
right in front of us.
462
00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:13,965
We polygraphy Bubby Hayes...
463
00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:15,655
...three times.
464
00:35:21,068 --> 00:35:21,896
The first two...
465
00:35:22,482 --> 00:35:24,206
...were inconclusive.
466
00:35:24,206 --> 00:35:27,689
And the third polygraph
we came to the conclusion
that he was telling the truth.
467
00:35:27,689 --> 00:35:29,482
He was asked
some difficult questions.
468
00:35:33,482 --> 00:35:37,000
The problem is that
we just didn't have enough
469
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,482
to prove that
Bubby Hayes was...
470
00:35:40,482 --> 00:35:44,551
...actually actively involved
in this conspiracy.
471
00:35:51,103 --> 00:35:53,241
We kept pushing.
472
00:35:53,241 --> 00:35:59,379
The more we started digging
into the possibility
of a crime of solicitation,
473
00:35:59,379 --> 00:36:01,241
the more names came up.
474
00:36:03,275 --> 00:36:06,241
And as we began to...
to pull the thread of that...
475
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,551
...we found David Gibson.
476
00:36:10,551 --> 00:36:12,551
This call
is to an incarcerated individual
477
00:36:12,551 --> 00:36:15,137
at Lexington Assessment
and Reception Center.
478
00:36:31,275 --> 00:36:33,275
This call
is to an incarcerated individual
479
00:36:33,275 --> 00:36:36,172
at Lexington Assessment
and Reception Center.
480
00:36:36,172 --> 00:36:39,172
This call will be recorded
and may be monitored.
481
00:36:39,172 --> 00:36:40,689
You may start
the conversation now.
482
00:37:01,034 --> 00:37:02,793
David Gibson's
name came up
483
00:37:02,793 --> 00:37:06,586
because he was a good
friend of Stan
484
00:37:06,586 --> 00:37:08,689
and they ran around
a lot together.
485
00:37:11,172 --> 00:37:13,103
He was a marksman.
486
00:37:13,103 --> 00:37:16,034
And in all the people
that we talked to,
487
00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:19,482
he was one that could likely
have pulled off the shot
488
00:37:19,482 --> 00:37:21,103
that killed Rex Harper
that day.
489
00:37:34,482 --> 00:37:37,793
Nevertheless, we had
multiple witnesses
490
00:37:37,793 --> 00:37:42,551
who testified that David
Alton Gibson asked them...
491
00:37:42,551 --> 00:37:45,275
...uh, if they could
take care of Rex Harper.
492
00:37:47,689 --> 00:37:51,448
Ultimately we decided
to proceed to trial
493
00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:53,241
with conspiracy to commit murder
494
00:37:53,241 --> 00:37:58,275
and solicitation to commit
first degree murder
against Stanley Williamson...
495
00:37:58,275 --> 00:38:00,103
...and David Alton
Gibson Junior.
496
00:38:14,689 --> 00:38:16,172
We made the decision
497
00:38:16,172 --> 00:38:19,482
not to proceed
on the murder charge...
498
00:38:19,482 --> 00:38:24,793
...because we wanted to ensure
that double jeopardy
did not attach.
499
00:38:24,793 --> 00:38:26,344
Which basically means
500
00:38:26,344 --> 00:38:28,379
that if additional evidence, uh...
501
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,241
...even today...
502
00:38:31,241 --> 00:38:36,448
...is brought forward that
can confirm the guilt of one
or more individuals
503
00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:37,793
in the actual murder,
504
00:38:37,793 --> 00:38:41,068
we may still be able
to proceed,
505
00:38:41,068 --> 00:38:44,034
uh, to ensure that those
people are charged
and convicted.
506
00:39:31,965 --> 00:39:33,896
Our family felt
like we never really
got justice,
507
00:39:33,896 --> 00:39:37,586
because three or four years
for taking my uncle's life?
508
00:39:37,586 --> 00:39:39,344
That's not...
that's not enough.
509
00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:41,000
He deserves more.
510
00:39:43,965 --> 00:39:46,896
It's interesting
that during the trial
511
00:39:46,896 --> 00:39:50,275
neither Stan nor anyone
else ever suggested that
512
00:39:50,275 --> 00:39:52,482
Karie Harper was complicit
in this.
513
00:39:55,172 --> 00:39:57,482
In spite
of all my suspicions,
514
00:39:57,482 --> 00:40:02,655
in the eyes of the law,
Karie Harper, Rex's wife,
is innocent.
515
00:40:11,965 --> 00:40:14,275
Remaining
anonymous is important
to me...
516
00:40:14,965 --> 00:40:16,965
...to protect my identity.
517
00:40:16,965 --> 00:40:19,482
I don't wanna be scared
of what could happen.
518
00:40:20,896 --> 00:40:24,379
After Rex died,
I was fearful that...
519
00:40:25,793 --> 00:40:28,000
...my life would be taken
as well.
520
00:40:31,586 --> 00:40:35,689
Still, today, I feel
responsible for Rex's death.
521
00:40:35,689 --> 00:40:38,896
I feel, had it not been
for me, that Rex would
still be here.
522
00:40:42,172 --> 00:40:44,896
There's not a day goes by
that I don't think about it.
523
00:40:44,896 --> 00:40:46,896
I think about him
every single day.
524
00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:43,379
If I had a chance
to say anything
to the Harper family,
525
00:41:43,379 --> 00:41:46,586
it would be to express
my sincere condolences again...
526
00:41:50,034 --> 00:41:52,551
...and that I'm sorry
for the loss of Rex.
527
00:41:52,551 --> 00:41:57,344
There was never justice
served for... for this, uh,
what had happened.
528
00:41:57,344 --> 00:42:00,965
We feel very let down
with Broken Arrow
Police Department.
529
00:42:00,965 --> 00:42:03,896
We still don't know who
the guy was that actually
pulled the trigger.
530
00:42:03,896 --> 00:42:06,034
We know it wasn't Stan.
531
00:42:06,034 --> 00:42:08,172
Um, we'd just like to know
who it was that pulled
the trigger.
42713
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.