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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,632 --> 00:00:18,965 (calming music playing) 2 00:00:20,321 --> 00:00:23,738 There's a perfection about Clydesdales. 3 00:00:26,922 --> 00:00:28,755 They are incredible athletes, 4 00:00:28,755 --> 00:00:32,042 incredibly graceful in their movement. 5 00:00:32,042 --> 00:00:33,959 Just big personalities. 6 00:00:36,201 --> 00:00:37,784 That makes you feel small 7 00:00:37,784 --> 00:00:40,367 and humbled and incredibly privileged 8 00:00:40,367 --> 00:00:41,700 to be with them. 9 00:00:45,979 --> 00:00:46,910 They're beautiful. 10 00:00:46,910 --> 00:00:48,910 They are just beautiful. 11 00:00:53,070 --> 00:00:54,153 In order to have 12 00:00:54,153 --> 00:00:56,219 a Clydesdale become your partner, 13 00:00:56,219 --> 00:00:58,078 you really have to put your ego 14 00:00:58,078 --> 00:01:00,036 to the side and really be 15 00:01:00,036 --> 00:01:01,953 there for that creature 16 00:01:03,494 --> 00:01:05,161 that depends on you. 17 00:01:09,722 --> 00:01:10,555 I see them as 18 00:01:10,555 --> 00:01:12,479 just the most amazing breed. 19 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:14,062 It's a treasure trove 20 00:01:14,062 --> 00:01:16,645 of positive traits and characteristics 21 00:01:16,645 --> 00:01:18,833 that I absolutely am passionate 22 00:01:18,833 --> 00:01:20,833 that we should not lose. 23 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:24,153 You only need to look 24 00:01:24,153 --> 00:01:24,986 at the herd books 25 00:01:24,986 --> 00:01:27,090 to see that it's diminishing. 26 00:01:27,090 --> 00:01:29,023 There are far fewer horses. 27 00:01:29,023 --> 00:01:29,856 You don't need 28 00:01:29,856 --> 00:01:31,314 to be an expert to know that. 29 00:01:31,314 --> 00:01:32,981 That's just obvious. 30 00:01:33,824 --> 00:01:35,032 I started asking questions 31 00:01:35,032 --> 00:01:36,490 of the people who bred the horses, 32 00:01:36,490 --> 00:01:38,573 and they were telling me shocking stories 33 00:01:38,573 --> 00:01:40,281 of the breed entering 34 00:01:40,281 --> 00:01:43,638 what they call the extinction vortex. 35 00:01:43,638 --> 00:01:46,056 When a number of factors come together 36 00:01:46,056 --> 00:01:48,128 and unless you react quickly, 37 00:01:48,128 --> 00:01:50,961 the whole breed can just collapse. 38 00:01:52,617 --> 00:01:54,822 So I could either pretend 39 00:01:54,822 --> 00:01:57,079 I hadn't heard that, 40 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:00,566 or else I could do something about it. 41 00:02:00,566 --> 00:02:02,066 It's now or never. 42 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:06,879 We've really got to save this breed. 43 00:02:07,888 --> 00:02:10,288 They touch the soul. 44 00:02:10,288 --> 00:02:11,538 They really do. 45 00:02:12,391 --> 00:02:15,474 (calm music playing) 46 00:02:22,498 --> 00:02:25,081 (upbeat music playing) 47 00:02:34,013 --> 00:02:35,346 I'm Janice Kirkpatrick. 48 00:02:35,346 --> 00:02:36,883 I'm a designer. 49 00:02:36,883 --> 00:02:39,947 I have a business in Glasgow with my husband, 50 00:02:39,947 --> 00:02:42,120 an architect called Ross Hunter. 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,537 We met when we were students. 52 00:02:45,654 --> 00:02:46,487 We work for some 53 00:02:46,487 --> 00:02:48,663 of the big global players, 54 00:02:48,663 --> 00:02:51,780 British Airways, banks like RBS, 55 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:52,613 a lot of... 56 00:02:52,613 --> 00:02:53,696 Janice! 57 00:02:53,696 --> 00:02:55,082 Am I not allowed to say that? 58 00:02:55,082 --> 00:02:55,915 No. 59 00:02:55,915 --> 00:02:57,373 (Phone ringing) 60 00:02:57,373 --> 00:02:59,857 (laughing) 61 00:02:59,857 --> 00:03:01,913 ( motor bike's engine revving) 62 00:03:01,913 --> 00:03:03,246 I suppose I've always been a big 63 00:03:03,246 --> 00:03:05,294 kid my whole life, in lots of ways. 64 00:03:05,294 --> 00:03:07,127 I like toys. 65 00:03:07,127 --> 00:03:08,366 I like bikes. 66 00:03:08,366 --> 00:03:10,366 The power is remarkable. 67 00:03:11,785 --> 00:03:13,452 Horses are the same. 68 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:16,266 I think women at a young age 69 00:03:16,266 --> 00:03:18,074 identify with the power a horse 70 00:03:18,074 --> 00:03:20,741 can give them and it's exciting. 71 00:03:23,575 --> 00:03:24,908 I was always interested 72 00:03:24,908 --> 00:03:26,474 in the Clydesdale horse 73 00:03:26,474 --> 00:03:29,057 through my love of horses, 74 00:03:29,057 --> 00:03:31,057 but also through design. 75 00:03:34,346 --> 00:03:37,315 Thirty-odd years of practicing as a designer, 76 00:03:37,315 --> 00:03:39,273 I've come to truly believe 77 00:03:39,273 --> 00:03:41,125 that old is gold. 78 00:03:41,125 --> 00:03:42,833 And, for me, the Clydesdale 79 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:45,283 is very much this kind of a thing. 80 00:03:45,283 --> 00:03:47,700 (calm music playing) 81 00:03:54,814 --> 00:03:56,942 Do you remember when horses were here? 82 00:03:56,942 --> 00:03:58,983 Yeah, but, I mean, I can remember 83 00:03:58,983 --> 00:04:00,138 when there was horses here, 84 00:04:00,138 --> 00:04:02,189 but there's not much of it left. 85 00:04:02,189 --> 00:04:03,022 Oh, boy. 86 00:04:05,171 --> 00:04:08,254 (calm music playing) 87 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:12,017 This is a barn that would have 88 00:04:12,017 --> 00:04:15,100 at one time had several horses in it. 89 00:04:18,284 --> 00:04:22,117 These would have been big horses, Clydesdales, 90 00:04:24,367 --> 00:04:26,159 the pre-eminent breed. 91 00:04:26,159 --> 00:04:27,409 The best breed. 92 00:04:28,516 --> 00:04:32,374 The most highly bred horses in human history. 93 00:04:32,374 --> 00:04:36,756 And people were immensely proud of their horses. 94 00:04:36,756 --> 00:04:37,589 The breed was born 95 00:04:37,589 --> 00:04:39,267 in the Clyde Valley, 96 00:04:39,267 --> 00:04:41,600 to the southwest of Glasgow. 97 00:04:46,416 --> 00:04:49,049 Everything that came from the Clyde 98 00:04:49,049 --> 00:04:51,507 was of incredible quality, 99 00:04:51,507 --> 00:04:53,239 you know, the ships, 100 00:04:53,239 --> 00:04:56,595 the locomotives, steam engines, 101 00:04:56,595 --> 00:04:58,678 and the Clydesdale horse. 102 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:03,015 In the lowlands of Scotland, 103 00:05:03,015 --> 00:05:04,433 let's not forget the great work 104 00:05:04,433 --> 00:05:05,641 that's been done, 105 00:05:05,641 --> 00:05:08,099 and is still being done by the ploughman 106 00:05:08,099 --> 00:05:10,826 and his good servant, the horse. 107 00:05:10,826 --> 00:05:12,296 The heavy horse, 108 00:05:12,296 --> 00:05:16,046 Scotland's pride and joy, the Clydesdale. 109 00:05:19,407 --> 00:05:22,521 You need a really well assembled 110 00:05:22,521 --> 00:05:25,554 musculoskeletal frame to get great power 111 00:05:25,554 --> 00:05:27,278 from the rear end of a horse 112 00:05:27,278 --> 00:05:28,861 because it's the great power 113 00:05:28,861 --> 00:05:30,255 that gives it its ability 114 00:05:30,255 --> 00:05:32,088 to push into a collar and move, 115 00:05:32,088 --> 00:05:33,755 you know, a ton weight. 116 00:05:33,755 --> 00:05:36,463 And it's also the power you need 117 00:05:36,463 --> 00:05:38,546 for a great riding horse. 118 00:05:39,422 --> 00:05:41,510 That's where the big horse race started. 119 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:44,574 The race to create the biggest horses 120 00:05:44,574 --> 00:05:47,282 which could produce the most power 121 00:05:47,282 --> 00:05:49,740 that would fuel the agricultural revolutions 122 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:51,907 and Industrial Revolution. 123 00:06:00,058 --> 00:06:02,737 [PA system] Second, Ronnie Black, 124 00:06:02,737 --> 00:06:03,570 number 10. 125 00:06:04,940 --> 00:06:06,523 And third, 126 00:06:06,523 --> 00:06:08,038 number 11, 127 00:06:08,038 --> 00:06:11,458 Amazing Grace from Sandy Aitken. 128 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,158 Well done, Sandy. 129 00:06:13,158 --> 00:06:15,829 (applauding) 130 00:06:15,829 --> 00:06:17,588 I love coming to shows like this 131 00:06:17,588 --> 00:06:19,921 because it really reminds me 132 00:06:19,921 --> 00:06:22,879 of just how long the Clydesdale has been part 133 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:25,825 of our culture, our history. 134 00:06:25,825 --> 00:06:27,092 That's a nice one. 135 00:06:27,092 --> 00:06:28,212 Is it square buckles, or? 136 00:06:28,212 --> 00:06:31,647 Yeah, it's proper square buckles. 137 00:06:31,647 --> 00:06:33,568 Those who are taking 138 00:06:33,568 --> 00:06:36,867 part in the pairs competition. 139 00:06:36,867 --> 00:06:39,823 I think my earliest memory is 140 00:06:39,823 --> 00:06:41,608 of being at what must 141 00:06:41,608 --> 00:06:43,691 have been a country fair 142 00:06:43,691 --> 00:06:45,524 or a fete in Dumfries. 143 00:06:47,556 --> 00:06:49,913 And I must have been really wee, 144 00:06:49,913 --> 00:06:51,813 not much more than a toddler. 145 00:06:51,813 --> 00:06:53,771 I remember gripping onto the front 146 00:06:53,771 --> 00:06:55,479 of the saddle and looking down 147 00:06:55,479 --> 00:06:57,364 and the movement of the horse 148 00:06:57,364 --> 00:07:00,114 go like that, and thinking, "Oh!" 149 00:07:03,969 --> 00:07:05,597 Well I think I was seven, 150 00:07:05,597 --> 00:07:09,027 I started proper riding lessons. 151 00:07:09,027 --> 00:07:11,360 Thereafter, I became hooked. 152 00:07:15,387 --> 00:07:16,220 When I was a kid, 153 00:07:16,220 --> 00:07:18,614 shows with Clydesdale horses 154 00:07:18,614 --> 00:07:20,135 would have been packed 155 00:07:20,135 --> 00:07:21,865 and it would have been really exciting. 156 00:07:21,865 --> 00:07:23,971 It would have been a real celebration 157 00:07:23,971 --> 00:07:26,421 go and see the big horses. 158 00:07:26,421 --> 00:07:29,231 Today, it's a much thinner affair. 159 00:07:29,231 --> 00:07:32,564 There are fewer people and older people. 160 00:07:36,315 --> 00:07:38,689 Some of the older photography 161 00:07:38,689 --> 00:07:40,341 when they had dappled greys, 162 00:07:40,341 --> 00:07:42,218 they had horses of all colors 163 00:07:42,218 --> 00:07:43,051 which I think would 164 00:07:43,051 --> 00:07:45,634 have been quite amazing to see. 165 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,173 Today, there's really only one color 166 00:07:51,173 --> 00:07:53,340 of horse and that's brown. 167 00:07:54,229 --> 00:07:56,979 And also there's not many horses. 168 00:07:59,861 --> 00:08:01,069 Well, this class that's 169 00:08:01,069 --> 00:08:02,503 just being shown just now, 170 00:08:02,503 --> 00:08:03,711 in the mid '90s 171 00:08:03,711 --> 00:08:06,011 there could have been 20 in that class 172 00:08:06,011 --> 00:08:08,178 and there are three today. 173 00:08:10,370 --> 00:08:12,537 So I'm not quite sure why. 174 00:08:13,678 --> 00:08:15,511 [PA system]- And that was number 27 175 00:08:15,511 --> 00:08:17,007 from Charles Jamieson. 176 00:08:17,007 --> 00:08:19,090 The overwhelming fact 177 00:08:19,090 --> 00:08:20,840 of the Clydesdale is 178 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,923 that the horse and everything 179 00:08:22,923 --> 00:08:25,932 that surrounds it is aging. 180 00:08:25,932 --> 00:08:28,015 Catalogs are available 181 00:08:28,015 --> 00:08:31,765 from the marquee at the top end of the arena. 182 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:37,279 Good morning, everybody. 183 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:40,869 Good morning, Joseph. 184 00:08:42,336 --> 00:08:43,169 Ugh. 185 00:08:44,975 --> 00:08:46,389 Hello, Phoebe. 186 00:08:46,389 --> 00:08:49,389 (shoveling sawdust) 187 00:08:52,045 --> 00:08:55,517 (calm music playing) 188 00:08:55,517 --> 00:08:56,475 When I went 189 00:08:56,475 --> 00:08:59,683 to Glasgow School of Art, I was 18 190 00:08:59,683 --> 00:09:01,498 and the awful thing was 191 00:09:01,498 --> 00:09:02,929 I had to sell my horse 192 00:09:02,929 --> 00:09:06,050 because no one else in the family rode, 193 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:08,509 and it scarred me very deeply. 194 00:09:08,509 --> 00:09:11,592 I still have a lot of regret over it. 195 00:09:12,641 --> 00:09:14,599 I always had a heartening 196 00:09:14,599 --> 00:09:17,016 to go back and to ride again. 197 00:09:18,950 --> 00:09:21,867 So I decided I wanted a Clydesdale. 198 00:09:23,704 --> 00:09:25,454 I wanted a black one. 199 00:09:28,306 --> 00:09:30,128 The blacks really appealed to me. 200 00:09:30,128 --> 00:09:32,212 And it's a personal thing I just think 201 00:09:32,212 --> 00:09:34,129 that they look amazing. 202 00:09:37,186 --> 00:09:38,769 I had a look around 203 00:09:38,769 --> 00:09:40,477 and I couldn't find 204 00:09:40,477 --> 00:09:43,295 any black horses in the UK. 205 00:09:43,295 --> 00:09:45,946 So I ended up with this one. 206 00:09:45,946 --> 00:09:48,196 He's an American Clydesdale 207 00:09:50,163 --> 00:09:51,163 from Oregon. 208 00:09:52,496 --> 00:09:53,329 Joe. 209 00:09:55,333 --> 00:09:58,166 He's got a really expressive face. 210 00:10:00,144 --> 00:10:03,340 He's very old-fashioned in style. 211 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:06,500 He's a big horse by any, any measure. 212 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:10,170 He's about just a shade under 18 hands. 213 00:10:10,170 --> 00:10:12,753 (upbeat music playing) 214 00:10:14,527 --> 00:10:15,360 Woo! 215 00:10:18,402 --> 00:10:21,610 What makes the Clydesdale so special is 216 00:10:21,610 --> 00:10:24,131 for me just the sheer power of them. 217 00:10:24,131 --> 00:10:26,298 They are just magnificent. 218 00:10:28,733 --> 00:10:30,877 Guys like Joe can be so light, 219 00:10:30,877 --> 00:10:33,162 absolutely light as a feather, 220 00:10:33,162 --> 00:10:34,373 and when you get 221 00:10:34,373 --> 00:10:35,456 that power with the lightness, 222 00:10:35,456 --> 00:10:37,789 it's a really special thing. 223 00:10:40,416 --> 00:10:42,124 When I'd made the decision 224 00:10:42,124 --> 00:10:43,735 to get a black Clydesdale, 225 00:10:43,735 --> 00:10:46,068 I got really interested in why 226 00:10:46,068 --> 00:10:48,365 there were no black horses in the UK. 227 00:10:48,365 --> 00:10:50,290 What happened to the black horses? 228 00:10:50,290 --> 00:10:52,695 (calm music playing) 229 00:10:52,695 --> 00:10:54,741 Where had they gone? 230 00:10:54,741 --> 00:10:57,324 (upbeat music playing) 231 00:11:04,623 --> 00:11:05,706 I'm on my way 232 00:11:05,706 --> 00:11:06,853 to meet Shona Harrison, 233 00:11:06,853 --> 00:11:09,247 whose partner, John Zawadski, 234 00:11:09,247 --> 00:11:11,841 sadly died a few months ago. 235 00:11:11,841 --> 00:11:13,299 John was a real expert 236 00:11:13,299 --> 00:11:14,278 in the Clydesdale world 237 00:11:14,278 --> 00:11:16,584 and he traveled up and down the UK 238 00:11:16,584 --> 00:11:18,667 to visit different shows. 239 00:11:23,282 --> 00:11:25,167 I think this is it. 240 00:11:25,167 --> 00:11:26,803 Come into John's office. 241 00:11:26,803 --> 00:11:28,323 I'd love to! 242 00:11:28,323 --> 00:11:30,505 A lot of it's just as he left it 243 00:11:30,505 --> 00:11:32,213 'cause its gonna take a long time 244 00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:34,131 to go through things. 245 00:11:34,131 --> 00:11:36,094 Just watch the steps. 246 00:11:36,094 --> 00:11:37,677 Photographs galore. 247 00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:39,910 Fantastic. 248 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:42,034 There's one called Grand National 249 00:11:42,034 --> 00:11:42,867 that's used as a... 250 00:11:42,867 --> 00:11:45,164 It's W Johnson, 1918. 251 00:11:45,164 --> 00:11:46,497 I'm very interested in 252 00:11:46,497 --> 00:11:49,329 how the horses change over the centuries. 253 00:11:49,329 --> 00:11:51,159 They definitely have changed a lot. 254 00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:51,992 Over here- 255 00:11:51,992 --> 00:11:53,554 It's a very organized man. 256 00:11:53,554 --> 00:11:54,512 As I was saying, 257 00:11:54,512 --> 00:11:56,939 the breed histories are all down here. 258 00:11:56,939 --> 00:11:58,705 Clydesdale Horse Society history. 259 00:11:58,705 --> 00:12:00,163 All that up there's the history 260 00:12:00,163 --> 00:12:01,526 of Clydesdale Horse Society. 261 00:12:01,526 --> 00:12:02,359 Just amazing. 262 00:12:02,359 --> 00:12:03,192 All the original documents 263 00:12:03,192 --> 00:12:05,525 like newsletters, letters from the secretary, 264 00:12:05,525 --> 00:12:06,762 that sort of thing. 265 00:12:06,762 --> 00:12:07,720 I'm just amazed. 266 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,518 It's not at all what I expected. 267 00:12:09,518 --> 00:12:11,351 So he's pieced together 268 00:12:11,351 --> 00:12:13,768 all the stallion information. 269 00:12:14,795 --> 00:12:16,753 This is going back decades 270 00:12:16,753 --> 00:12:19,095 and decades, you know, like centuries. 271 00:12:19,095 --> 00:12:20,768 It's a cornucopia. 272 00:12:20,768 --> 00:12:23,601 I've never known anything like it. 273 00:12:26,199 --> 00:12:28,949 Just glorious. Gorgeous. 274 00:12:31,073 --> 00:12:34,195 Shona's collection includes antique sales catalogs 275 00:12:34,195 --> 00:12:35,944 from Scotland's most famous breeder 276 00:12:35,944 --> 00:12:38,444 of Clydesdales, Lawrence Drew. 277 00:12:42,868 --> 00:12:44,196 They are just exceptional. 278 00:12:44,196 --> 00:12:47,085 I've never seen catalogs like this ever. 279 00:12:47,085 --> 00:12:49,870 They are absolutely exceptional. 280 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:51,453 It's a sale catalog 281 00:12:52,828 --> 00:12:55,411 for the Rolls Royces of horses. 282 00:12:56,899 --> 00:12:58,482 Lawrence Drew, he knew 283 00:12:58,482 --> 00:13:00,669 what he was doing. 284 00:13:00,669 --> 00:13:01,502 You know, when you look 285 00:13:01,502 --> 00:13:03,543 at Prince of Wales, I'm sure there must be a note 286 00:13:03,543 --> 00:13:05,501 somewhere about his color 287 00:13:05,501 --> 00:13:08,584 but he looks like a very black horse. 288 00:13:09,835 --> 00:13:12,043 I've not seen a Clydesdale stallion 289 00:13:12,043 --> 00:13:13,733 in the herd today 290 00:13:13,733 --> 00:13:15,983 that looks like this horse. 291 00:13:18,787 --> 00:13:21,787 (car horns honking) 292 00:13:22,843 --> 00:13:25,375 (foot prints approaching) 293 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:26,208 Ross-o. 294 00:13:26,208 --> 00:13:27,041 Mm-hmm? 295 00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:29,808 This is the treat. 296 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:31,863 Oh my. 297 00:13:32,976 --> 00:13:35,059 This is the catalog 298 00:13:35,059 --> 00:13:36,681 for the dispersal sale 299 00:13:36,681 --> 00:13:38,381 of Lawrence Drew's herd. 300 00:13:38,381 --> 00:13:40,288 This is 150 years old. 301 00:13:40,288 --> 00:13:41,154 That's amazing. 302 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:42,612 That's Prince of Wales, 303 00:13:42,612 --> 00:13:44,945 one of the foundation sires. 304 00:13:46,094 --> 00:13:47,259 And these are all drawn. 305 00:13:47,259 --> 00:13:48,342 Wow, 306 00:13:48,342 --> 00:13:50,009 It's just awesome. 307 00:13:51,489 --> 00:13:53,046 What a size of a horse. 308 00:13:53,046 --> 00:13:54,004 Look at that. 309 00:13:54,004 --> 00:13:55,462 It's incredible. (laughing) 310 00:13:55,462 --> 00:13:56,295 And he has a lovely smile as well. 311 00:13:56,295 --> 00:13:59,295 I would too I think if I were him. 312 00:14:00,348 --> 00:14:02,723 I missed this the first time. And I looked at the next page, 313 00:14:02,723 --> 00:14:03,556 and then I flicked back 314 00:14:03,556 --> 00:14:04,954 and I found that. 315 00:14:04,954 --> 00:14:06,063 Does this still exist? 316 00:14:06,063 --> 00:14:07,313 I don't know. 317 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:13,405 Merryton was where the first Clydesdale horses 318 00:14:13,405 --> 00:14:15,717 were really created. 319 00:14:15,717 --> 00:14:18,800 So what happened to the black horses? 320 00:14:20,017 --> 00:14:21,434 I started to dig. 321 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:28,087 I'm relieved to find 322 00:14:28,087 --> 00:14:30,587 that Merryton is still a farm. 323 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:34,142 It looks like the baronial tower is 324 00:14:34,142 --> 00:14:38,059 still there and many of the original buildings. 325 00:14:38,899 --> 00:14:41,982 (calm music playing) 326 00:14:49,788 --> 00:14:51,120 Merryton, this is 327 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,287 where Lawrence Drew had his operation. 328 00:14:57,755 --> 00:15:00,091 He was absolutely clear 329 00:15:00,091 --> 00:15:02,422 that his horses weren't 330 00:15:02,422 --> 00:15:04,549 just to be beautiful. 331 00:15:04,549 --> 00:15:06,382 They had to be functional 332 00:15:06,382 --> 00:15:08,965 and, boy, they had to be sound. 333 00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:15,678 Lawrence Drew, he was an entrepreneur. 334 00:15:15,678 --> 00:15:17,095 He was a showman. 335 00:15:18,798 --> 00:15:20,816 Drew knew where he was going 336 00:15:20,816 --> 00:15:24,233 with the commercial part of the business. 337 00:15:25,843 --> 00:15:28,758 Thousands of horses were exported 338 00:15:28,758 --> 00:15:31,008 and because this was very much a business, 339 00:15:31,008 --> 00:15:32,591 they were building a brand 340 00:15:32,591 --> 00:15:34,035 and this was a big plan. 341 00:15:34,035 --> 00:15:35,411 This was a worldwide plan. 342 00:15:35,411 --> 00:15:36,744 This was about exporting 343 00:15:36,744 --> 00:15:38,386 to Australia and Russia 344 00:15:38,386 --> 00:15:41,636 and Italy and North America and Canada. 345 00:15:42,929 --> 00:15:45,678 And the blacks had been exported 346 00:15:45,678 --> 00:15:48,761 as being amongst the highest quality. 347 00:15:53,329 --> 00:15:54,829 If Drew had lived, 348 00:15:55,854 --> 00:15:58,298 I would just love to have seen 349 00:15:58,298 --> 00:16:00,581 what he could have bred. 350 00:16:00,581 --> 00:16:03,664 But he died hence the dispersal sale. 351 00:16:05,895 --> 00:16:08,228 This sale would have drawn people 352 00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:10,109 from all over the world. 353 00:16:10,109 --> 00:16:13,442 And apparently 6,000 people attended it. 354 00:16:15,816 --> 00:16:17,524 So all of his stock, 355 00:16:17,524 --> 00:16:19,741 which was really, you know, 356 00:16:19,741 --> 00:16:22,449 a treasure trove of the breed, 357 00:16:22,449 --> 00:16:26,116 it was being dispersed throughout the world. 358 00:16:30,172 --> 00:16:32,755 (upbeat music playing) 359 00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:37,998 I had a hunch that, 360 00:16:37,998 --> 00:16:40,956 because Clydesdale horses had been exported 361 00:16:40,956 --> 00:16:43,539 that there was a package of genetic material 362 00:16:43,539 --> 00:16:46,560 that had been exported with them. 363 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,143 I want to understand more 364 00:16:48,143 --> 00:16:50,035 about the underlying health 365 00:16:50,035 --> 00:16:51,743 of the Scottish herd 366 00:16:51,743 --> 00:16:53,891 and get a snapshot of whether 367 00:16:53,891 --> 00:16:56,558 or not our gene pool is healthy. 368 00:16:59,492 --> 00:17:01,688 I quickly discovered that the UK 369 00:17:01,688 --> 00:17:02,646 has a very small 370 00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:05,854 and shrinking pool of Clydesdale horses 371 00:17:05,854 --> 00:17:08,021 which means it's very hard 372 00:17:09,209 --> 00:17:12,658 to keep the breed healthy in the future. 373 00:17:12,658 --> 00:17:14,751 I looked a bit further 374 00:17:14,751 --> 00:17:17,146 and started talking to people about it, 375 00:17:17,146 --> 00:17:18,806 talking to the vets about it, 376 00:17:18,806 --> 00:17:20,463 and they started telling me 377 00:17:20,463 --> 00:17:22,963 about problems with the breed. 378 00:17:24,162 --> 00:17:25,712 I started asking questions of the people 379 00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:27,897 who bred the horses. 380 00:17:27,897 --> 00:17:30,897 We lost five one year in a summer. 381 00:17:32,044 --> 00:17:33,877 And they were telling me shocking stories 382 00:17:33,877 --> 00:17:35,335 of the mortality rate 383 00:17:35,335 --> 00:17:37,168 and issues with breeding, 384 00:17:37,168 --> 00:17:39,501 like massively reduced fertility 385 00:17:39,501 --> 00:17:41,975 in mares and stallions, 386 00:17:41,975 --> 00:17:44,695 and increased foal mortality 387 00:17:44,695 --> 00:17:46,747 which means there are simply fewer horses 388 00:17:46,747 --> 00:17:50,375 and there's less genetic diversity. 389 00:17:50,375 --> 00:17:52,594 Clear signals of the breed entering 390 00:17:52,594 --> 00:17:56,055 what they call the extinction vortex. 391 00:17:56,055 --> 00:17:57,984 And, unless you react quickly, 392 00:17:57,984 --> 00:18:00,817 the whole breed can just collapse. 393 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,947 And that changed everything. 394 00:18:07,947 --> 00:18:10,530 (upbeat music playing) 395 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:14,299 Everyone knows there's a problem 396 00:18:14,299 --> 00:18:15,791 and nobody knows what the solution is, 397 00:18:15,791 --> 00:18:18,291 and nobody wants to act first. 398 00:18:20,269 --> 00:18:23,269 I just found it just incredibly sad. 399 00:18:25,813 --> 00:18:28,431 So, I couldn't possibly not try 400 00:18:28,431 --> 00:18:30,598 and do something about it. 401 00:18:32,337 --> 00:18:33,795 I really needed to go 402 00:18:33,795 --> 00:18:35,438 and speak to some scientists 403 00:18:35,438 --> 00:18:38,775 to find out exactly what was happening. 404 00:18:38,775 --> 00:18:40,483 The first thing we need 405 00:18:40,483 --> 00:18:42,221 to find out is how healthy 406 00:18:42,221 --> 00:18:44,221 is the herd in Scotland? 407 00:18:48,516 --> 00:18:50,724 I'm gonna find somebody, 408 00:18:50,724 --> 00:18:52,758 somebody who has the knowledge 409 00:18:52,758 --> 00:18:55,096 to find out what's happening 410 00:18:55,096 --> 00:18:57,263 and what needs to be done. 411 00:18:58,352 --> 00:19:01,063 Secondly, we need to find out 412 00:19:01,063 --> 00:19:04,676 if there is an issue with inbreeding. 413 00:19:04,676 --> 00:19:06,971 And the most important question 414 00:19:06,971 --> 00:19:09,054 is can the breed survive? 415 00:19:10,745 --> 00:19:13,412 That is the really big question. 416 00:19:19,464 --> 00:19:21,297 Hi, hi, I'm trying to get 417 00:19:21,297 --> 00:19:24,055 through to Jessica Petersen. 418 00:19:24,055 --> 00:19:26,716 (phone ringing) 419 00:19:26,716 --> 00:19:27,549 Hi, Janice. 420 00:19:27,549 --> 00:19:28,683 Thanks for taking this call. 421 00:19:28,683 --> 00:19:30,391 I really appreciate it. 422 00:19:30,391 --> 00:19:33,903 I'm really hoping that you can help 423 00:19:33,903 --> 00:19:36,570 unravel this Clydesdale mystery. 424 00:19:39,168 --> 00:19:41,168 I'm trying to understand 425 00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:45,718 how viable the genetic population is 426 00:19:45,718 --> 00:19:49,034 in our Clydesdale horses in Scotland. 427 00:19:49,034 --> 00:19:50,798 I'm wondering if there's a way 428 00:19:50,798 --> 00:19:52,243 that we can measure that, 429 00:19:52,243 --> 00:19:53,530 if that would be something 430 00:19:53,530 --> 00:19:54,660 that you could help with. 431 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:56,118 It seems like something 432 00:19:56,118 --> 00:19:58,714 that we could get at using genetic data. 433 00:19:58,714 --> 00:20:00,772 How diverse is this population? 434 00:20:00,772 --> 00:20:02,342 Are the Scottish horses different 435 00:20:02,342 --> 00:20:04,795 than North American horses? 436 00:20:04,795 --> 00:20:05,628 So definitely something 437 00:20:05,628 --> 00:20:07,211 that's up my alley. 438 00:20:09,407 --> 00:20:11,867 Jessica has agreed to do a genetic study 439 00:20:11,867 --> 00:20:14,311 of the Clydesdale populations 440 00:20:14,311 --> 00:20:17,237 in the USA, Canada, and the UK. 441 00:20:17,237 --> 00:20:18,570 And in order to do this, 442 00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:20,161 she needs DNA from horses 443 00:20:20,161 --> 00:20:22,078 in all three countries. 444 00:20:24,393 --> 00:20:25,850 By collecting that DNA, 445 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:28,287 she can get a snapshot of the diversity 446 00:20:28,287 --> 00:20:30,863 and therefore the health of the populations 447 00:20:30,863 --> 00:20:33,363 in those respective countries. 448 00:20:36,456 --> 00:20:39,465 So Jessica is gonna get 50 samples from Canada, 449 00:20:39,465 --> 00:20:41,150 50 samples from the USA, 450 00:20:41,150 --> 00:20:42,358 which leaves me 451 00:20:42,358 --> 00:20:45,349 to get 50 samples from the UK. 452 00:20:45,349 --> 00:20:49,445 And that gives us 150 hair follicle samples 453 00:20:49,445 --> 00:20:52,840 which is 150 bits of horse DNA. 454 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,831 That should be great. 455 00:20:54,831 --> 00:20:57,664 We should be good to go with that. 456 00:21:03,172 --> 00:21:05,939 This is my little tool kit 457 00:21:05,939 --> 00:21:08,189 for my genetic collections. 458 00:21:12,181 --> 00:21:14,769 It requires the breeder 459 00:21:14,769 --> 00:21:16,766 to provide a hair sample 460 00:21:16,766 --> 00:21:18,685 of around 30 to 40 follicles 461 00:21:18,685 --> 00:21:21,119 which are pulled from the mane or the tail. 462 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,369 I'm gonna do three horses this morning. 463 00:21:27,327 --> 00:21:28,513 That's us. 464 00:21:28,513 --> 00:21:31,179 That's our first sample. 465 00:21:31,179 --> 00:21:33,512 So that's about 30, 40 hairs 466 00:21:34,644 --> 00:21:36,900 with the roots in tact. 467 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:39,067 Stick that in an envelope. 468 00:21:41,714 --> 00:21:42,547 What I'm gonna do 469 00:21:42,547 --> 00:21:44,364 this afternoon is contact breeders 470 00:21:44,364 --> 00:21:45,810 in the UK independently, 471 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:47,856 explain to them the project, 472 00:21:47,856 --> 00:21:50,472 and ask them to participate. 473 00:21:50,472 --> 00:21:51,850 Hi, it's Janice Kirkpatrick 474 00:21:51,850 --> 00:21:54,259 trying to reach Caroline Reynolds 475 00:21:54,259 --> 00:21:58,437 regarding the Clydesdale DNA information. 476 00:21:58,437 --> 00:22:00,419 There's this feeling generally 477 00:22:00,419 --> 00:22:03,121 within the kind of Clydesdale owners 478 00:22:03,121 --> 00:22:05,024 in Scotland and in the UK 479 00:22:05,024 --> 00:22:06,549 that everything's just okay. 480 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:07,475 You know, they see the horse 481 00:22:07,475 --> 00:22:08,636 outside in the field 482 00:22:08,636 --> 00:22:10,361 and the horse looks healthy 483 00:22:10,361 --> 00:22:12,132 and I don't think we've quite got 484 00:22:12,132 --> 00:22:13,873 the urgency of the situation. 485 00:22:13,873 --> 00:22:15,840 But people have been actually 486 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,763 okay about it, saying, 487 00:22:16,763 --> 00:22:18,889 "Yes, we will do it." 488 00:22:18,889 --> 00:22:21,014 Thanks, thank you. 489 00:22:21,014 --> 00:22:23,114 Need to count the bags. 490 00:22:23,114 --> 00:22:25,272 One, two, three, four. 491 00:22:25,272 --> 00:22:26,440 You're a star. 492 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,273 Thank you. 493 00:22:28,382 --> 00:22:30,867 It would just really help. 494 00:22:30,867 --> 00:22:32,373 16 samples. 495 00:22:32,373 --> 00:22:33,206 Fantastic. 496 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,923 I'm sort of the individual 497 00:22:35,923 --> 00:22:38,075 behind the Clydesdale project. 498 00:22:38,075 --> 00:22:39,112 Another two. 499 00:22:39,112 --> 00:22:41,063 I've got another two. 500 00:22:41,063 --> 00:22:41,896 Ah. 501 00:22:41,896 --> 00:22:43,620 Blackstone. 502 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:45,467 Thank you, Bob. 503 00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:47,300 Two, three, four...36. 504 00:22:49,339 --> 00:22:51,839 So far, so we need another 14. 505 00:22:54,254 --> 00:22:55,707 Thank you so much. 506 00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:56,540 Bye. 507 00:22:59,526 --> 00:23:00,830 49, 50. 508 00:23:00,830 --> 00:23:02,413 We actually have, 509 00:23:02,413 --> 00:23:04,283 we have 50 samples. 510 00:23:04,283 --> 00:23:06,436 We've got 50 samples. 511 00:23:06,436 --> 00:23:09,387 That means that we've actually managed 512 00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:12,374 to find enough DNA to do our survey 513 00:23:12,374 --> 00:23:14,395 of the Clydesdale population. 514 00:23:14,395 --> 00:23:15,812 It's really good. 515 00:23:33,557 --> 00:23:34,765 This just came in the post 516 00:23:34,765 --> 00:23:35,973 for you, Janice. 517 00:23:35,973 --> 00:23:37,473 Oh, thanks, Zoe. 518 00:23:39,656 --> 00:23:41,406 These are the results 519 00:23:43,930 --> 00:23:45,597 of the DNA analysis. 520 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,473 Ah. 521 00:24:01,473 --> 00:24:03,416 Data generated from these samples 522 00:24:03,416 --> 00:24:05,179 support what you suspected. 523 00:24:05,179 --> 00:24:07,076 Based upon the relative isolation 524 00:24:07,076 --> 00:24:08,715 and small population size 525 00:24:08,715 --> 00:24:09,923 of Clydesdales in Scotland, 526 00:24:09,923 --> 00:24:11,606 they do have less diversity 527 00:24:11,606 --> 00:24:14,584 than Clydesdales studied from North America. 528 00:24:14,584 --> 00:24:16,639 And there is an increase in inbreeding 529 00:24:16,639 --> 00:24:19,222 within the Scottish population. 530 00:24:20,624 --> 00:24:23,203 Jessica, I've only skimmed it 531 00:24:23,203 --> 00:24:25,941 but it seems that our hunch was right 532 00:24:25,941 --> 00:24:29,419 that there is an issue with genetic diversity. 533 00:24:29,419 --> 00:24:31,337 So, yes, the concern about 534 00:24:31,337 --> 00:24:32,771 the Scottish population 535 00:24:32,771 --> 00:24:36,029 being very small in size held true 536 00:24:36,029 --> 00:24:38,448 in that inbreeding estimates 537 00:24:38,448 --> 00:24:39,995 of the horses in Scotland 538 00:24:39,995 --> 00:24:41,635 were generally quite a bit 539 00:24:41,635 --> 00:24:45,784 higher than from horses in North America. 540 00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:47,398 And that goes back again 541 00:24:47,398 --> 00:24:49,194 to the small population size 542 00:24:49,194 --> 00:24:50,721 where if there's just not 543 00:24:50,721 --> 00:24:52,067 a whole lot of horses, 544 00:24:52,067 --> 00:24:53,533 you're going to be mating relatives 545 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,241 to relatives whether or not 546 00:24:55,241 --> 00:24:57,491 you are intending to do so. 547 00:24:59,033 --> 00:25:00,457 For the first time, I think 548 00:25:00,457 --> 00:25:04,806 we have definitive, scientific, genetic proof 549 00:25:04,806 --> 00:25:06,718 that the Clydesdale herd 550 00:25:06,718 --> 00:25:08,552 in Scotland is in danger. 551 00:25:08,552 --> 00:25:11,302 We have to do something about it. 552 00:25:14,947 --> 00:25:15,780 It suddenly dawned on me 553 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:17,627 that I could maybe bring 554 00:25:17,627 --> 00:25:20,395 back some new genetic material, 555 00:25:20,395 --> 00:25:22,875 new genetic Clydesdale material to Scotland 556 00:25:22,875 --> 00:25:24,882 that would give it some diversity 557 00:25:24,882 --> 00:25:26,882 and some sustainability. 558 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:34,301 The very best horses were exported 559 00:25:34,301 --> 00:25:37,801 because they commanded the highest prices. 560 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,557 They were exported to Canada 561 00:25:41,557 --> 00:25:43,490 from Glasgow, from Liverpool, 562 00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:45,823 and then from Canada they went down 563 00:25:45,823 --> 00:25:49,240 into the United States and South America. 564 00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:56,030 When the genetic material was dispersed, 565 00:25:56,030 --> 00:25:57,617 some pretty big herds 566 00:25:57,617 --> 00:26:00,664 were founded across Canada, 567 00:26:00,664 --> 00:26:02,452 and some of the black bloodlines 568 00:26:02,452 --> 00:26:04,006 are in these herds today. 569 00:26:04,006 --> 00:26:05,701 The black bloodlines that have their roots 570 00:26:05,701 --> 00:26:08,534 in the old stud books in Scotland. 571 00:26:11,499 --> 00:26:14,082 What I'm looking for is 572 00:26:14,082 --> 00:26:17,165 a great-looking and great-performing 573 00:26:17,165 --> 00:26:19,774 pregnant, breeding mare 574 00:26:19,774 --> 00:26:24,107 so I can create black Clydesdale horses in Scotland. 575 00:26:28,107 --> 00:26:30,618 I think the time has now come 576 00:26:30,618 --> 00:26:32,586 for the horse to come back home 577 00:26:32,586 --> 00:26:35,419 again to the place it was created. 578 00:26:37,044 --> 00:26:39,186 It's important that I bring 579 00:26:39,186 --> 00:26:41,064 a horse back into the UK 580 00:26:41,064 --> 00:26:43,270 that is as different as possible 581 00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:44,768 genetically from the horses 582 00:26:44,768 --> 00:26:46,222 that we have at the moment. 583 00:26:46,222 --> 00:26:47,555 Because by doing that, 584 00:26:47,555 --> 00:26:49,376 I will strengthen and widen 585 00:26:49,376 --> 00:26:51,709 and deepen the genetic pool. 586 00:27:00,209 --> 00:27:03,626 (airplane touching down) 587 00:27:24,792 --> 00:27:25,625 Wow. 588 00:27:46,272 --> 00:27:48,387 I've come to Saskatchewan 589 00:27:48,387 --> 00:27:50,720 because there are descendants 590 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,428 of the original horses 591 00:27:52,428 --> 00:27:53,455 that were exported 592 00:27:53,455 --> 00:27:54,857 from Scotland to Canada 593 00:27:54,857 --> 00:27:56,524 all these years ago. 594 00:28:05,408 --> 00:28:06,325 Here we go. 595 00:28:08,491 --> 00:28:10,491 We got some Clydesdales. 596 00:28:15,006 --> 00:28:17,635 Such an amazing country. 597 00:28:17,635 --> 00:28:19,702 It's so big and flat 598 00:28:19,702 --> 00:28:21,178 and vast and endless. 599 00:28:21,178 --> 00:28:23,008 It's so different from Scotland 600 00:28:23,008 --> 00:28:24,841 and the land that we bred 601 00:28:24,841 --> 00:28:27,091 those horses on originally. 602 00:28:28,884 --> 00:28:32,079 With me I have got John Hankinson 603 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:34,804 who is a long-standing good friend. 604 00:28:34,804 --> 00:28:36,833 He's an equine manipulator. 605 00:28:36,833 --> 00:28:38,508 He's a master farrier. 606 00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:40,216 He's got a whole bunch 607 00:28:40,216 --> 00:28:41,883 of tools in his box. 608 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:45,956 Let's just go in this way. 609 00:28:45,956 --> 00:28:47,623 Is this it? 610 00:28:53,978 --> 00:28:55,061 We're here. 611 00:28:56,085 --> 00:28:57,502 At last. 612 00:29:01,131 --> 00:29:02,275 Janice, how we doin'? 613 00:29:02,275 --> 00:29:03,358 Good to see you. 614 00:29:03,358 --> 00:29:05,435 Good to see you. 615 00:29:05,435 --> 00:29:06,601 This is John. Hi there, how ya doin'? 616 00:29:06,601 --> 00:29:07,559 This is Derek. 617 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:09,142 Nice to meet you. 618 00:29:10,821 --> 00:29:15,458 Derek Cey is a family of Clydesdale breeders. 619 00:29:15,458 --> 00:29:19,625 I think the 5th generation of Clydesdale breeding. 620 00:30:01,416 --> 00:30:03,874 (whistling) 621 00:30:03,874 --> 00:30:05,374 Come on. 622 00:30:07,026 --> 00:30:08,455 Hello. 623 00:30:08,455 --> 00:30:09,288 Hello. 624 00:30:29,084 --> 00:30:29,917 This is great. 625 00:30:29,917 --> 00:30:31,185 This is what I came here for. 626 00:30:31,185 --> 00:30:33,281 Just like swimming with horses. 627 00:30:33,281 --> 00:30:37,281 It's just brilliant. (laughing) 628 00:30:51,485 --> 00:30:53,620 Derek's herd is vast compared 629 00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:56,453 to anything I can look at at home. 630 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:01,435 And it's very moving because 631 00:31:01,435 --> 00:31:02,268 it evokes the images 632 00:31:02,268 --> 00:31:04,851 of these huge studs that we had 633 00:31:04,851 --> 00:31:08,268 in Scotland 100 years ago, 150 years ago. 634 00:31:10,038 --> 00:31:12,955 It's just such a treat to see that. 635 00:31:17,377 --> 00:31:18,745 I've gotta to be really objective. 636 00:31:18,745 --> 00:31:20,348 When I see a horse I like, 637 00:31:20,348 --> 00:31:21,984 I'll write down the name, 638 00:31:21,984 --> 00:31:24,901 I'll take a photograph on my phone. 639 00:31:29,169 --> 00:31:30,002 I want a horse 640 00:31:30,002 --> 00:31:31,710 that has big hind quarters, 641 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:33,215 not fat hind quarters, 642 00:31:33,215 --> 00:31:34,674 big muscular hind quarters 643 00:31:34,674 --> 00:31:36,319 that's where the power comes. 644 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:39,069 The limbs have gotta be straight. 645 00:31:42,154 --> 00:31:43,737 I also want a horse 646 00:31:43,737 --> 00:31:45,320 that has got really 647 00:31:46,363 --> 00:31:48,446 great rhythm, great movement, 648 00:31:48,446 --> 00:31:49,779 that has got a kind 649 00:31:49,779 --> 00:31:51,696 of cadence to its step. 650 00:31:56,053 --> 00:31:58,415 Amber, 3-year old, she's got a little 651 00:31:58,415 --> 00:31:59,998 bit of an attitude. 652 00:32:02,718 --> 00:32:03,750 Can we take a closer look? 653 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:05,917 Yep, you betcha. 654 00:32:08,074 --> 00:32:09,032 She caught my eye. 655 00:32:09,032 --> 00:32:10,490 She caught John's eye. 656 00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:12,909 And she's got nice shoulders, 657 00:32:12,909 --> 00:32:14,826 all her zones are good. 658 00:32:15,753 --> 00:32:17,875 She's actually got quite a nice rear end. 659 00:32:17,875 --> 00:32:18,833 What do you think? 660 00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:20,073 Yeah, I like her. 661 00:32:20,073 --> 00:32:21,156 Yeah, yeah. 662 00:32:24,666 --> 00:32:26,755 The other thing about Amber 663 00:32:26,755 --> 00:32:28,645 is she is in foal. 664 00:32:28,645 --> 00:32:31,195 Derek thinks it's Willow Way Nightlight 665 00:32:31,195 --> 00:32:33,695 who is the big black stallion. 666 00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:37,992 So that adds a different dimension, 667 00:32:37,992 --> 00:32:40,531 he's quite a rare black bloodline 668 00:32:40,531 --> 00:32:43,698 from an excellent herd of Clydesdales. 669 00:32:45,365 --> 00:32:48,647 Lot o' check marks you got goin' there. 670 00:32:48,647 --> 00:32:49,912 I like to see that book 671 00:32:49,912 --> 00:32:52,179 when you're all done. (laughing) 672 00:32:52,179 --> 00:32:53,137 It's tiring. 673 00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:54,220 'Cause you concentrate 674 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:55,869 and you think I mustn't mess this up. 675 00:32:55,869 --> 00:32:57,952 I mustn't miss something. 676 00:32:59,128 --> 00:33:02,079 So where do you keep your good ones, Derek? 677 00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,996 You know how that worked? 678 00:33:08,022 --> 00:33:11,082 So Janice, what are your thoughts? 679 00:33:11,082 --> 00:33:12,999 I really liked Amber. 680 00:33:16,166 --> 00:33:17,922 What did you think? 681 00:33:17,922 --> 00:33:19,985 I think you've mentioned the one 682 00:33:19,985 --> 00:33:22,851 that I've got on my sort of list 683 00:33:22,851 --> 00:33:25,286 as being the prime candidate. 684 00:33:25,286 --> 00:33:27,164 She's in foal, she's got the right attitude. 685 00:33:27,164 --> 00:33:28,392 She's got a nice action. 686 00:33:28,392 --> 00:33:29,854 She's good clean-limbed. 687 00:33:29,854 --> 00:33:31,254 Looks to tick all the boxes. 688 00:33:31,254 --> 00:33:33,181 She's at the moment the one 689 00:33:33,181 --> 00:33:34,514 that I'm thinking is 690 00:33:34,514 --> 00:33:37,014 probably the best one for you. 691 00:33:38,590 --> 00:33:39,813 What's the plan now? 692 00:33:39,813 --> 00:33:41,803 Are we gonna do hands on? 693 00:33:41,803 --> 00:33:45,553 I think that would be a good idea. 694 00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:52,592 I wanted a pair of eyes 695 00:33:52,592 --> 00:33:54,819 on this horse and a pair of hands 696 00:33:54,819 --> 00:33:55,986 on this horse. 697 00:33:59,735 --> 00:34:02,084 John's a very, very good judge 698 00:34:02,084 --> 00:34:05,584 of how a horse is put together physically. 699 00:34:23,659 --> 00:34:25,742 So far, so good. 700 00:34:28,825 --> 00:34:31,291 John's also got a good feel 701 00:34:31,291 --> 00:34:32,791 for personalities. 702 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,843 This is good. 703 00:34:42,002 --> 00:34:43,120 A hell of a girl. 704 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,453 I like this one. 705 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:50,087 Awesome. 706 00:34:50,087 --> 00:34:50,920 Awesome. 707 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,753 Yeah. 708 00:34:51,753 --> 00:34:53,461 Thank you, John. 709 00:34:53,461 --> 00:34:56,329 She's a crackin' girl, isn't she? 710 00:34:56,329 --> 00:34:58,335 Fabulous. 711 00:34:58,335 --> 00:34:59,668 Hey good girl. 712 00:35:01,074 --> 00:35:02,926 I think that really affected John. 713 00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:04,407 Very rarely, he ever finds a horse 714 00:35:04,407 --> 00:35:05,900 that tries so hard 715 00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:07,377 that he was just amazed at this horse 716 00:35:07,377 --> 00:35:09,720 which is really a wild horse 717 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:10,553 was trying so hard 718 00:35:10,553 --> 00:35:12,970 to understand what he wanted. 719 00:35:14,055 --> 00:35:15,565 Team hug. 720 00:35:15,565 --> 00:35:16,451 Team hug. 721 00:35:16,451 --> 00:35:17,744 Thank you. 722 00:35:17,744 --> 00:35:20,828 I'm so pleased that you came with me. 723 00:35:20,828 --> 00:35:23,690 That's the right horse. 724 00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:25,940 Her energy is just amazing. 725 00:35:31,515 --> 00:35:32,515 Hey there. 726 00:35:34,648 --> 00:35:36,222 Yes, I've not organized it all 727 00:35:36,222 --> 00:35:37,820 but yes we have a horse. 728 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:39,503 You are gonna love her. 729 00:35:39,503 --> 00:35:42,243 John is absolutely in love with her, 730 00:35:42,243 --> 00:35:45,160 like unbelievably in love with her. 731 00:35:51,861 --> 00:35:53,479 What this horse is bringin' 732 00:35:53,479 --> 00:35:56,448 over is a whole toolkit of genetic 733 00:35:56,448 --> 00:35:59,076 lovely things that could take 734 00:35:59,076 --> 00:36:02,074 the Scottish herd in different directions. 735 00:36:02,074 --> 00:36:04,991 And that for me is really exciting. 736 00:36:06,346 --> 00:36:08,705 This isn't just about even my lifetime. 737 00:36:08,705 --> 00:36:11,955 This is about other peoples' lifetimes. 738 00:36:15,522 --> 00:36:19,522 Of all breeds, the Clydesdale deserves a future. 739 00:36:42,865 --> 00:36:45,136 So today is D-day. 740 00:36:45,136 --> 00:36:46,411 Really is the conclusion of Amber's 741 00:36:46,411 --> 00:36:47,970 journey over here. 742 00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:51,492 She's had 3,000 kilometers by road 743 00:36:51,492 --> 00:36:54,825 and then another 8 hour journey from Chicago. 744 00:36:54,825 --> 00:36:57,179 It's been delayed for 5 hours 745 00:36:57,179 --> 00:36:59,639 so she's gonna be fairly tired. 746 00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,198 I'm really looking forward to seeing her. 747 00:37:02,198 --> 00:37:04,209 My husband Ross hasn't seen her at all 748 00:37:04,209 --> 00:37:05,917 so it's a big deal 749 00:37:05,917 --> 00:37:07,750 for both of us really. 750 00:37:16,542 --> 00:37:19,792 (upbeat music playing) 751 00:37:34,335 --> 00:37:36,684 Amber coped ridiculously well 752 00:37:36,684 --> 00:37:38,017 with the travel. 753 00:37:39,219 --> 00:37:42,624 It's beginning to feel a bit like Christmas. 754 00:37:42,624 --> 00:37:45,558 I'm very relieved that she is so cool 755 00:37:45,558 --> 00:37:46,891 with everything. 756 00:37:48,407 --> 00:37:51,574 She's not phased by it so that's good. 757 00:38:10,026 --> 00:38:11,776 Don't need your help. 758 00:38:13,662 --> 00:38:15,245 You're such a pest. 759 00:38:19,307 --> 00:38:21,474 This is our Canadian lady. 760 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,066 Don't be cheeky. 761 00:38:24,066 --> 00:38:25,566 She's very cheeky. 762 00:38:28,252 --> 00:38:29,733 I don't call my horses 763 00:38:29,733 --> 00:38:31,158 by their pedigree names. 764 00:38:31,158 --> 00:38:32,366 It's quite nice just 765 00:38:32,366 --> 00:38:33,199 to hang with them 766 00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:34,032 for awhile and find out 767 00:38:34,032 --> 00:38:35,931 what their characters are like. 768 00:38:35,931 --> 00:38:38,166 She just doesn't feel like an Amber. 769 00:38:38,166 --> 00:38:39,630 She's not an amber light. 770 00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:42,630 This horse is a full-on green light. 771 00:38:44,235 --> 00:38:46,603 She was just so audacious 772 00:38:46,603 --> 00:38:48,932 that I decided to call her Jesse James 773 00:38:48,932 --> 00:38:51,040 after the outlaw. 774 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,790 Good girl, good girl. 775 00:38:55,194 --> 00:38:56,902 We've got John Morris, 776 00:38:56,902 --> 00:38:58,485 my local vet coming 777 00:39:00,299 --> 00:39:02,299 to have a look at Jesse. 778 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,767 I'm knackered. 779 00:39:16,224 --> 00:39:17,997 Is this your new girl, Janice? 780 00:39:17,997 --> 00:39:20,422 This certainly is. 781 00:39:20,422 --> 00:39:22,172 Good girl, good girl. 782 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,261 All right so these are identification 783 00:39:29,261 --> 00:39:32,844 documents for the Clydesdale Horse Society. 784 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,914 She looks a very different type. 785 00:39:35,914 --> 00:39:37,551 It's interesting to see 786 00:39:37,551 --> 00:39:39,134 that there was another line 787 00:39:39,134 --> 00:39:42,598 of Clydesdales differentiated in another country. 788 00:39:42,598 --> 00:39:43,890 In terms of her pregnancy, 789 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:47,135 we don't know quite how far on she is. 790 00:39:47,135 --> 00:39:49,257 It's really very difficult 791 00:39:49,257 --> 00:39:51,173 to try and get a date. 792 00:39:51,173 --> 00:39:53,012 It's not unusual to find that 793 00:39:53,012 --> 00:39:54,970 people sit up for about two weeks 794 00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:57,162 waiting for their mare to foal. And then they go to bed 795 00:39:57,162 --> 00:39:58,661 because they're so tired 796 00:39:58,661 --> 00:39:59,994 and then guess what happens, 797 00:39:59,994 --> 00:40:01,351 they foal that night. 798 00:40:01,351 --> 00:40:03,812 Are there any particular features 799 00:40:03,812 --> 00:40:05,395 of a Clydesdale birth 800 00:40:05,395 --> 00:40:08,312 as opposed to a normal horse birth? 801 00:40:10,163 --> 00:40:13,163 Clydesdales can be more difficult. 802 00:40:15,982 --> 00:40:16,815 If the foal's not 803 00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:18,120 in the right position, 804 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,120 then they can get stuck. 805 00:40:20,982 --> 00:40:23,281 Beyond that there's an inner sack. 806 00:40:23,281 --> 00:40:25,272 Normally the foal bursts through that. 807 00:40:25,272 --> 00:40:26,930 That's part of the birth process 808 00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:28,513 but if the foal is born 809 00:40:28,513 --> 00:40:30,846 and the sack is over its face 810 00:40:30,846 --> 00:40:32,679 then it can't breathe. 811 00:40:34,743 --> 00:40:36,699 It's quite scary stuff actually 812 00:40:36,699 --> 00:40:40,199 especially when it's horses that you love. 813 00:40:41,138 --> 00:40:42,430 If things go wrong, 814 00:40:42,430 --> 00:40:44,319 they go terribly wrong. 815 00:40:44,319 --> 00:40:46,720 and they go wrong very, very quickly. 816 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:49,264 I've got a very good imagination. 817 00:40:49,264 --> 00:40:52,764 I'm very good at imagining horror stories. 818 00:40:58,172 --> 00:41:00,402 One thing that's become really clear to me 819 00:41:00,402 --> 00:41:02,804 about how we save the Clydesdale 820 00:41:02,804 --> 00:41:04,512 is if we can't tie it 821 00:41:04,512 --> 00:41:07,262 to a hopeful future, it will die. 822 00:41:09,426 --> 00:41:10,886 I really want to create 823 00:41:10,886 --> 00:41:13,572 the world center for this horse 824 00:41:13,572 --> 00:41:16,180 that has got some permanence, 825 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:19,930 that's got some sustainability going forward. 826 00:41:21,801 --> 00:41:24,801 It builds some value into the horses 827 00:41:26,011 --> 00:41:27,857 so that there's a market for people 828 00:41:27,857 --> 00:41:29,065 who want to buy them, 829 00:41:29,065 --> 00:41:30,664 look after them, and enjoy them, 830 00:41:30,664 --> 00:41:32,581 and keep breeding them. 831 00:41:49,946 --> 00:41:53,696 The actual archway is 17th century. 832 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,548 I've not been here for years. 833 00:42:01,548 --> 00:42:02,965 Absolutely years. 834 00:42:03,845 --> 00:42:06,316 I think Pollok Park Stables are fabulous. 835 00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:07,524 They are fabulous. 836 00:42:07,524 --> 00:42:09,485 They are beautiful. 837 00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:11,743 Early 18th century stables so they fit 838 00:42:11,743 --> 00:42:14,202 entirely with the story of the Clydesdale. 839 00:42:14,202 --> 00:42:15,717 It actually has done well. 840 00:42:15,717 --> 00:42:16,550 It has. 841 00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:18,194 To stay up so well. 842 00:42:18,194 --> 00:42:19,402 The roof's not exactly straight 843 00:42:19,402 --> 00:42:20,735 and I see the pigeons have moved in 844 00:42:20,735 --> 00:42:22,652 but it's not the worst. 845 00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:29,574 So these would be the original stables. 846 00:42:29,574 --> 00:42:31,157 Tell a few stories. 847 00:42:33,032 --> 00:42:35,463 Lots of teeth marks and foot marks, 848 00:42:35,463 --> 00:42:36,630 but no horses. 849 00:42:39,385 --> 00:42:40,577 It'd be great to get them back again. 850 00:42:40,577 --> 00:42:41,410 Oh yes it would. 851 00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:42,347 That's the plan. 852 00:42:42,347 --> 00:42:43,764 Yes, I hope so. 853 00:42:46,495 --> 00:42:47,328 Seems to me 854 00:42:47,328 --> 00:42:48,161 that Pollok House Stables 855 00:42:48,161 --> 00:42:49,356 is a bit of a gift 856 00:42:49,356 --> 00:42:51,230 because it's right in the center of Glasgow 857 00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:53,033 in the Clyde Valley, 858 00:42:53,033 --> 00:42:55,783 the source of this amazing horse. 859 00:42:57,571 --> 00:42:58,862 Pollok Park could be the thing 860 00:42:58,862 --> 00:43:01,445 that helps save the Clydesdale. 861 00:43:14,289 --> 00:43:17,619 Trying to keep sight of Jesse today 862 00:43:17,619 --> 00:43:20,827 because she's really close to giving birth 863 00:43:20,827 --> 00:43:23,310 and I don't want her to creep off 864 00:43:23,310 --> 00:43:25,600 and give birth in the field shelter 865 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,683 or in some other corner of the field. 866 00:43:33,741 --> 00:43:36,239 Because things happen really quickly 867 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,791 in foaling this is me being organized. 868 00:43:39,791 --> 00:43:41,611 I didn't want to get caught up 869 00:43:41,611 --> 00:43:44,233 in the action and not know what to do. 870 00:43:44,233 --> 00:43:46,865 At what point does it get dangerous? 871 00:43:46,865 --> 00:43:48,222 Just watching the time again, 872 00:43:48,222 --> 00:43:50,216 the foal standing, sucking. 873 00:43:50,216 --> 00:43:51,568 There's a 1, 2, 3 rule 874 00:43:51,568 --> 00:43:53,253 which is foal standing within an hour, 875 00:43:53,253 --> 00:43:54,670 sucking within 2 hours, 876 00:43:54,670 --> 00:43:58,017 and placenta passed within 3 hours. 877 00:43:58,017 --> 00:43:59,021 If anything goes wrong, 878 00:43:59,021 --> 00:44:00,526 it goes catastrophically wrong, 879 00:44:00,526 --> 00:44:02,109 very, very quickly. 880 00:44:12,151 --> 00:44:15,334 We installed a little Wi-Fi camera 881 00:44:15,334 --> 00:44:16,917 which is brilliant. 882 00:44:17,752 --> 00:44:20,349 Because it connects to my mobile phone 883 00:44:20,349 --> 00:44:22,184 or my other devices 884 00:44:22,184 --> 00:44:23,767 and it means I can watch 885 00:44:23,767 --> 00:44:25,850 what's happening in the foaling box 886 00:44:25,850 --> 00:44:27,989 so I can check during the night 887 00:44:27,989 --> 00:44:29,588 and just see where she's at. 888 00:44:29,588 --> 00:44:31,030 If there's much movement, 889 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:34,113 the camera tells me there's movement. 890 00:44:40,605 --> 00:44:42,772 All we can do now is wait. 891 00:45:21,158 --> 00:45:23,290 I want to bring people together 892 00:45:23,290 --> 00:45:26,737 who have an interest in the future 893 00:45:26,737 --> 00:45:29,987 of the Clydesdale horse in Pollok Park. 894 00:45:40,174 --> 00:45:41,959 Around 30% of Clydesdale foals 895 00:45:41,959 --> 00:45:43,837 are dying from a range of disorders 896 00:45:43,837 --> 00:45:45,454 commonly associated with a diminishing 897 00:45:45,454 --> 00:45:47,758 population and a thinning gene pool. 898 00:45:47,758 --> 00:45:48,841 And compared to most 899 00:45:48,841 --> 00:45:51,365 other common horse breeds, 900 00:45:51,365 --> 00:45:52,863 deaths are really rare. 901 00:45:52,863 --> 00:45:55,483 So 30% is a huge number 902 00:45:55,483 --> 00:45:56,921 and it's heartbreaking. 903 00:45:56,921 --> 00:45:58,614 It's heartbreaking for breeders 904 00:45:58,614 --> 00:46:00,455 and it's heartbreaking for the mares 905 00:46:00,455 --> 00:46:01,927 who can carry their foals 906 00:46:01,927 --> 00:46:04,442 for a year before they give birth. 907 00:46:04,442 --> 00:46:07,487 We can do something about it. 908 00:46:07,487 --> 00:46:09,156 What I'd like to do now is 909 00:46:09,156 --> 00:46:11,116 to explore how we might create 910 00:46:11,116 --> 00:46:13,176 a sustainable world center 911 00:46:13,176 --> 00:46:15,009 here in Pollok Park. 912 00:46:15,009 --> 00:46:17,361 Pollok Stables, something that's vibrant, 913 00:46:17,361 --> 00:46:19,170 that's world class. 914 00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:21,587 (applauding) 915 00:46:24,290 --> 00:46:28,068 I have been involved in this project. 916 00:46:28,068 --> 00:46:29,710 It makes sense to me 917 00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:31,043 and this is the moment 918 00:46:31,043 --> 00:46:32,626 when I discover if it is 919 00:46:32,626 --> 00:46:34,009 actually going to make sense 920 00:46:34,009 --> 00:46:35,932 to anybody else. 921 00:46:35,932 --> 00:46:38,432 So there's a lot riding on it. 922 00:46:39,512 --> 00:46:40,904 All breeders as well, 923 00:46:40,904 --> 00:46:41,862 I think we actually need 924 00:46:41,862 --> 00:46:42,907 to work as one. 925 00:46:42,907 --> 00:46:44,865 We need to research old methods, 926 00:46:44,865 --> 00:46:46,823 try to find a way to replicate, 927 00:46:46,823 --> 00:46:48,747 not look what's missing. 928 00:46:48,747 --> 00:46:50,376 We're seeing how important it is 929 00:46:50,376 --> 00:46:52,132 to have somebody like Janice 930 00:46:52,132 --> 00:46:54,402 who has the energy and drive 931 00:46:54,402 --> 00:46:58,033 to just say to people, "Let's do it." 932 00:46:58,033 --> 00:46:59,909 The urgency of the situation 933 00:46:59,909 --> 00:47:01,453 is to sort the gene pool out 934 00:47:01,453 --> 00:47:02,911 and have a breeding plan 935 00:47:02,911 --> 00:47:04,869 that will ensure the health 936 00:47:04,869 --> 00:47:07,536 of the continuity of this breed. 937 00:47:10,151 --> 00:47:11,359 It was really good, 938 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:13,611 really positive, really positive. 939 00:47:13,611 --> 00:47:16,974 I really feel that we can make something happen. 940 00:47:16,974 --> 00:47:18,265 I feel very good about it. 941 00:47:18,265 --> 00:47:20,449 You know when something feels right. 942 00:47:20,449 --> 00:47:21,866 You just know it. 943 00:47:29,973 --> 00:47:30,806 Hi there. 944 00:47:30,806 --> 00:47:34,344 It's Janice Kirkpatrick at Lindsayston. 945 00:47:34,344 --> 00:47:35,302 I have a mare 946 00:47:35,302 --> 00:47:38,255 who I think might foal tonight. 947 00:47:38,255 --> 00:47:39,088 Thank you. 948 00:47:39,088 --> 00:47:39,921 Thanks. 949 00:47:58,358 --> 00:47:59,316 It got to half past five 950 00:47:59,316 --> 00:48:01,566 in the morning and nothing. 951 00:48:02,792 --> 00:48:04,792 So I went back to sleep. 952 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,177 I don't like lookin' back 953 00:48:41,177 --> 00:48:43,221 at that bit of film very much. 954 00:48:43,221 --> 00:48:45,021 The foal can't breathe on her own yet 955 00:48:45,021 --> 00:48:47,323 because her face is completely covered 956 00:48:47,323 --> 00:48:49,003 in this amniotic sack 957 00:48:49,003 --> 00:48:50,669 that has to be removed. 958 00:48:50,669 --> 00:48:52,710 And Jesse needs to break the sack. 959 00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:54,400 She needs to do it quickly 960 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,900 so the foal doesn't suffocate. 961 00:49:03,167 --> 00:49:04,785 Jesse just instinctively knows 962 00:49:04,785 --> 00:49:06,807 that she's gotta get the sack 963 00:49:06,807 --> 00:49:08,826 off the face of her foal 964 00:49:08,826 --> 00:49:10,576 and help her breathe. 965 00:49:28,535 --> 00:49:30,702 Woke up again, 10 past 6 966 00:49:32,959 --> 00:49:35,792 and there's this little white face 967 00:49:36,631 --> 00:49:38,881 peering out from the straw. 968 00:49:40,415 --> 00:49:41,774 Absolutely shocked. 969 00:49:41,774 --> 00:49:42,607 It was like, 970 00:49:42,607 --> 00:49:43,859 where the hell did that come from? 971 00:49:43,859 --> 00:49:46,088 Ross was going, "There's a face! 972 00:49:46,088 --> 00:49:47,421 There's a face!" 973 00:49:48,605 --> 00:49:49,438 Hello! 974 00:49:52,366 --> 00:49:53,550 It's not up yet. 975 00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:54,773 It just happened. 976 00:49:54,773 --> 00:49:56,556 We'd better phone the vet. 977 00:49:56,556 --> 00:49:59,283 Can you phone John for me? 978 00:49:59,283 --> 00:50:01,278 John? Who's John? 979 00:50:01,278 --> 00:50:03,810 There's an awful lot of blood. 980 00:50:03,810 --> 00:50:04,959 Um... 981 00:50:04,959 --> 00:50:06,042 The, the vet! 982 00:50:23,378 --> 00:50:25,086 That's a wee girl. 983 00:50:25,086 --> 00:50:26,003 A wee girl. 984 00:50:30,910 --> 00:50:32,493 That's a good girl. 985 00:50:33,368 --> 00:50:34,201 Yes. 986 00:50:44,493 --> 00:50:45,826 That's your mum. 987 00:50:47,364 --> 00:50:49,145 When Jesse was pregnant, 988 00:50:49,145 --> 00:50:50,716 I was convinced that this foal 989 00:50:50,716 --> 00:50:52,461 wanted be called Snowy 990 00:50:52,461 --> 00:50:54,711 and Ross thought I was mad. 991 00:50:56,459 --> 00:50:58,200 She's got a big white face 992 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,589 and she's this weird lavender color 993 00:51:00,589 --> 00:51:02,496 with flecks of white through her coat 994 00:51:02,496 --> 00:51:04,996 so she is quite a snowy horse. 995 00:51:05,853 --> 00:51:08,186 She'll go pretty much black. 996 00:51:12,436 --> 00:51:14,269 Thanks for coming over John. 997 00:51:14,269 --> 00:51:15,352 I really appreciate it. 998 00:51:15,352 --> 00:51:16,310 Has the foal been up yet? 999 00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:17,477 No, not yet. 1000 00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:24,602 She's finding it really hard to stand. 1001 00:51:24,602 --> 00:51:27,074 And we've just been doing a combination 1002 00:51:27,074 --> 00:51:28,824 of letting her sleep. 1003 00:51:33,454 --> 00:51:34,756 She then gets up, 1004 00:51:34,756 --> 00:51:36,089 she can actually latch 1005 00:51:36,089 --> 00:51:37,297 onto the teat now 1006 00:51:37,297 --> 00:51:39,714 but she can't stand for long. 1007 00:51:42,949 --> 00:51:45,782 She's so slippery. 1008 00:51:55,846 --> 00:51:57,750 We really want to get Snowy 1009 00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:59,988 standing so that she can suckle 1010 00:51:59,988 --> 00:52:02,696 from Jesse and get milk, especially 1011 00:52:02,696 --> 00:52:04,305 the first milk which is called 1012 00:52:04,305 --> 00:52:05,787 colostrum which has got 1013 00:52:05,787 --> 00:52:07,619 antibodies in it which will help 1014 00:52:07,619 --> 00:52:09,619 build her immune system. 1015 00:52:11,363 --> 00:52:12,571 And that's one of the things 1016 00:52:12,571 --> 00:52:14,968 that can cause mortality in foals, 1017 00:52:14,968 --> 00:52:17,635 is not getting enough colostrum. 1018 00:52:25,213 --> 00:52:26,665 We thought, oh, my God, 1019 00:52:26,665 --> 00:52:29,082 something's going wrong here. 1020 00:52:33,906 --> 00:52:35,862 The structure of the foal's stomach 1021 00:52:35,862 --> 00:52:37,530 changes after eight hours 1022 00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:39,360 and it becomes impossible 1023 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,076 for the foal then to benefit 1024 00:52:41,076 --> 00:52:43,258 from this immunity given to it 1025 00:52:43,258 --> 00:52:44,925 by its mothers milk. 1026 00:52:45,935 --> 00:52:47,386 John wants to make sure 1027 00:52:47,386 --> 00:52:48,912 that we've got her immune system 1028 00:52:48,912 --> 00:52:50,625 kicked in so he's going to, 1029 00:52:50,625 --> 00:52:52,963 he's putting a tube into her stomach 1030 00:52:52,963 --> 00:52:54,539 and putting in quite 1031 00:52:54,539 --> 00:52:56,122 a lot of colostrum. 1032 00:53:09,368 --> 00:53:11,076 He's got to be very careful 1033 00:53:11,076 --> 00:53:14,187 to get the tube into the stomach, 1034 00:53:14,187 --> 00:53:15,354 not the lungs. 1035 00:53:16,225 --> 00:53:17,106 See it there? 1036 00:53:17,106 --> 00:53:17,939 Yeah. 1037 00:53:17,939 --> 00:53:19,197 And if we can see it... 1038 00:53:19,197 --> 00:53:20,030 Yeah. 1039 00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:21,379 It's in the right place. 1040 00:53:21,379 --> 00:53:23,082 It means it's not in the airway. 1041 00:53:23,082 --> 00:53:24,832 It's way down here. 1042 00:53:30,085 --> 00:53:31,897 Snowy's snoring and drinking 1043 00:53:31,897 --> 00:53:33,314 at the same time. 1044 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,684 Just pull it off. 1045 00:53:38,684 --> 00:53:39,642 That's good. 1046 00:53:39,642 --> 00:53:41,301 There we go. 1047 00:53:41,301 --> 00:53:42,134 Well done. 1048 00:53:42,134 --> 00:53:43,830 So all that milk in you, 1049 00:53:43,830 --> 00:53:46,006 you're going to be strong now. 1050 00:53:46,006 --> 00:53:47,006 There we go. 1051 00:53:49,624 --> 00:53:51,423 Now she's had some colostrum, 1052 00:53:51,423 --> 00:53:53,152 the biggest problem is getting 1053 00:53:53,152 --> 00:53:54,900 them up and getting them sucking 1054 00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:57,817 within a reasonable amount of time. 1055 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,260 Yeah, good girl. 1056 00:54:03,093 --> 00:54:03,926 Up we go 1057 00:54:04,935 --> 00:54:06,145 Get it right here, 1058 00:54:06,145 --> 00:54:06,978 you're a wee bit 1059 00:54:06,978 --> 00:54:08,561 too far back again. 1060 00:54:09,992 --> 00:54:12,492 She's going for the right bit. 1061 00:54:14,963 --> 00:54:16,634 It's always in my mind that 1062 00:54:16,634 --> 00:54:18,197 I could lose a foal, 1063 00:54:18,197 --> 00:54:19,864 I could lose a mare. 1064 00:54:24,956 --> 00:54:26,408 I really, really, really want 1065 00:54:26,408 --> 00:54:28,075 this foal to suckle. 1066 00:54:29,816 --> 00:54:30,923 The sooner she can stand up 1067 00:54:30,923 --> 00:54:33,428 on her own and suck, the better. 1068 00:54:33,428 --> 00:54:34,606 If only she could stand 1069 00:54:34,606 --> 00:54:37,273 on her own, it would be perfect. 1070 00:54:42,362 --> 00:54:45,029 (horse whining) 1071 00:55:21,157 --> 00:55:22,530 Whoa! 1072 00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:23,613 And we're up! 1073 00:55:27,008 --> 00:55:28,477 Oh! 1074 00:55:28,477 --> 00:55:29,310 That's it. 1075 00:55:58,856 --> 00:56:00,690 Are you going to be a big grey girl? 1076 00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:01,821 Are you? 1077 00:56:01,821 --> 00:56:04,570 Are you going to be a black roan? 1078 00:56:04,570 --> 00:56:06,737 Are you going to be black? 1079 00:56:07,876 --> 00:56:09,211 Have you got little teeth? 1080 00:56:09,211 --> 00:56:10,403 Are these your teeth? 1081 00:56:10,403 --> 00:56:12,524 They're tiny teeth. 1082 00:56:12,524 --> 00:56:16,873 Imagine having tiny little teeth like that. 1083 00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:17,706 Yeah. 1084 00:56:23,831 --> 00:56:25,824 I think I've achieved way more 1085 00:56:25,824 --> 00:56:27,782 than I ever set out to do. 1086 00:56:27,782 --> 00:56:28,952 Atta girl. 1087 00:56:28,952 --> 00:56:29,785 Good girl. 1088 00:56:30,945 --> 00:56:33,279 I asked a fairly simple question 1089 00:56:33,279 --> 00:56:34,612 about why there were 1090 00:56:34,612 --> 00:56:36,779 no black horses in the UK. 1091 00:56:40,534 --> 00:56:42,117 I got a much bigger, 1092 00:56:42,117 --> 00:56:43,784 deeper, wider answer 1093 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,166 which gave us a clear indication 1094 00:56:47,166 --> 00:56:48,624 of what we need to do 1095 00:56:48,624 --> 00:56:50,207 to save this breed. 1096 00:56:53,237 --> 00:56:54,592 And there are many other people 1097 00:56:54,592 --> 00:56:55,760 who have joined me 1098 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,239 who also see the potential in this horse. 1099 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,322 Come on, Janice. 1100 00:57:05,421 --> 00:57:08,493 I believe I've at least started the journey 1101 00:57:08,493 --> 00:57:11,076 of helping them flourish again. 1102 00:57:18,158 --> 00:57:20,081 Now how could you not be excited 1103 00:57:20,081 --> 00:57:22,039 about something that was created 1104 00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:23,206 in this place? 1105 00:57:27,581 --> 00:57:29,039 We need to be proud of it 1106 00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:30,471 and own it and embrace it 1107 00:57:30,471 --> 00:57:31,429 and make sure 1108 00:57:31,429 --> 00:57:33,929 it has a bright, shiny future. 69233

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