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[melodica softly plays]
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- [Dad] Hello, Georgie.
- Hi.
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[Dad] How did you feel
when you were younger,
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when people would say,
"What a beautiful boy," or... you know?
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I got a bit frustrated, um, because...
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I... I wanted them
to understand that I'm a girl.
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I'm a girl.
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Not... maybe not in the outside,
but in the inside, I feel like a girl.
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[melodica playing continues]
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Do you wanna wear different trackie dacks?
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That's my fault.
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They're longer on me
than they are on you. [laughs]
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[Georgie] Yeah.
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Yeah, wear your nice blue ones.
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- I'll bring these ones instead. Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- [birds chirping]
- [suitcase wheels rolling]
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[voices of children playing]
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[screams joyfully]
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It's very surreal for me to think
that for most of today, I'll be asleep.
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[Mum] Yeah.
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[Georgie] And I keep thinking
of the moments that have led me here.
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[Mum] Yeah.
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[soft piano melody plays]
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[Mum] Pop that next to your bed.
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Um...
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I'll pop that in there,
just in case you need it.
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Thanks.
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[sighs heavily]
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- [laughs]
- Whoa!
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Today is your first day of school.
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Can we see you in your uniform, please?
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Uh, yeah. Uh, Valks...
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[Georgie] Yeah, and mine too.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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The most recent swimming carnival
at Valkstone
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was very...
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very frustrating.
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Um...
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I went into the boy's cubicles,
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or toilets, to get, um, changed into...
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changed, um,
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when all the boys started laughing at me.
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And then I hid in the cubicle.
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And then...
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my mum thought
that maybe I'll get dressed with her
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but not in any of the toilets.
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We'll get dressed behind the toilets,
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where no one could find us.
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Yeah.
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[soft piano music plays]
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[Georgie chuckles]
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So I would like to introduce to you
the college captains of 2018,
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D'Art and Georgie.
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[crowd cheers and applauds]
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[crowd whistles]
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[monitor beeping]
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[Harry moans]
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[Harry talks indistinctly]
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[Dad] How do you feel
about having a sister and not a brother?
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Well, it is quite fun
because if we were younger,
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we can be playing superheroes
or something.
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- [Georgie cheers]
- A girl superhero and a boy superhero.
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Now we usually play spies,
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and there's a woman agent
and a man agent.
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So it's more fun having a girl around
instead of just two boys.
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[Dad] How do you find them at school?
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Does everyone at school
think of her as a girl?
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Yeah.
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I crossed my heart
that I wouldn't tell anyone.
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[Beck] And now one, just the twins.
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[shutter clicking]
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- How are you feeling, love?
- I'm good.
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[Greg grunting]
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[all laughing]
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[Beck] Be careful.
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Who's taking the coffee machine
when Dad moves out?
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I get all the tea stuff,
and he gets all the coffee stuff.
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[metal clanks]
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- The microwave?
- [Beck] Staying here.
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The Wi-Fi?
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[Beck] I don't know
'cause we might go with another company.
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[Georgie] Mmm.
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The phone?
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Stays here.
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And it might... have a little bit
of a different vibe here,
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but we're good at creating homes, Georgie.
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[monitor beeping]
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[Greg] Love you so much, darling.
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We'll all be here waiting for you
when you come out.
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Yep.
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[Beck] Time to go, my love.
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Can I come a little way with her?
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- Love you.
- [nurse] Yes.
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- See ya. Have fun.
- [Georgie] Love you.
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[nurse] Come inside.
It gets cold in there.
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[Georgie chuckles]
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[monitor beeping]
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[nurse] I'm just gonna connect
a few of these.
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It just monitors your heart
throughout the procedure.
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And we're coming in today
for gender affirmation surgery?
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Everyone in agreeance?
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- [all] Yeah.
- [nurse] Thank you.
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I'm just gonna give you a little oxygen
before you're going off to sleep.
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Okay.
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[nurse] So just take
some nice, big deep breaths for me there.
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[breathing deeply]
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[children's voices echoing]
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[keeps breathing deeply]
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[birds chirping]
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[presenter] And the winner
of the Young People's Human Rights Medal
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for 2017 is Georgie Stone.
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[crowd cheering]
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It is an honor
to be receiving this award today.
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A few months ago,
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I was talking to a group of trans kids
between the ages of 8 and 12,
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and I was shocked to learn
that every single one of them was,
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at that time, being bullied at school.
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So even though we have achieved a lot,
we still need to make sure
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that we are protecting
and looking after trans kids in Australia.
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[crowd applauding, cheering]
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[breathing heavily]
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[Greg] How do you feel
about the medical treatment
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that you want to have?
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I feel good about that.
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[Greg] Why?
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Well, because then...
then I won't grow into a boy. I'll...
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I'll be myself.
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[monitor beeping]
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Um...
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[interviewer] Michelle. Okay, great.
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So, Michelle, can you say your name for me
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and your, um, position?
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My name is
Associate Professor Michelle Telfer,
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and I'm the head
of Department of Adolescent Medicine
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and director of the Gender Service
at the Royal Children's Hospital.
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For every young person
who comes to see us,
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there's a very thorough assessment
that takes place
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before a big decision
like hormone treatment
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is... is decided upon.
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But even with this thorough process,
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for many, many years in Australia,
young people had to go to court
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to access the treatment they needed.
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When Georgie was 13,
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she and her family decided
to challenge that.
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To have a complete stranger
having to make a decision about my body
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was really distressing,
and I felt really powerless.
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So we appealed to change
both Stage 1 and Stage 2 treatments
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so, um, trans kids and their families
wouldn't have to go to court.
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And we won,
but it was only a partial victory.
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So they, uh... they changed
the law surrounding Stage 1,
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so then, um, families didn't have to go
to court for Stage 1 treatment,
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but the law still stood for Stage 2.
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So what it meant for me
was that I did have to go back to court,
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and that was really scary.
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[monitor beeping]
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I can't get, um, female hormones
without the permission of court.
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They give the order,
and it's not in the power of the doctors,
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the parents, or me.
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I don't have, legally,
the right to make that decision.
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I need to...
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um, they needed to determine
whether I was Gillick competent,
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which means I know
what the effects will be.
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I need the estrogen tablets.
I need to go through female puberty.
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I get boobs.
[laughs] I get, um, curves, you know,
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things that girls have, and I need it.
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I need it to be myself,
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and if I don't get it,
I'm not gonna be happy.
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I'm not gonna be myself.
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[soft rhythmic music plays]
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I've got a pimple...
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which is... I'm actually happy about,
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sort of.
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It means that the tablets are working,
and I'm...
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Uh, well, it's working. [laughs] Yay.
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[soft rhythmic music continues]
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Firstly, kinda like to say
thank you so much for having us. Um...
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So thankful that I'm able to speak today,
and hopefully we can do some good.
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Okay, so, my name is Georgie Stone.
I'm 15 years old.
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Last year, we had to apply
to the Family Court of Australia
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to obtain Stage 2 treatment,
which is cross-sex hormones.
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For the last five years,
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court has played a big part
in my family's life.
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At times, it overshadowed everything else.
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I want to make sure this doesn't play
the same part in anyone else's life.
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The court process is slow,
biology is fast.
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The lives of trans kids
are challenging at every turn.
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As parents, we walk ahead of our child,
almost like a landmine detector,
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sweeping the terrain before us,
paving a safe pathway for them.
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Most parents exhaust themselves
creating a safe place at school,
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educating family and friends,
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often being accused of causing it
in the first place or of child abuse.
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Dealing with their own feelings
of being overwhelmed and isolated,
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finding appropriate medical support,
family breakdown, kids harming themselves.
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The pressure is enormous and relentless.
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To add court to this already
intensely challenging situation
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is unnecessary and cruel.
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Legislation through Parliament
is our last hope,
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so please help us.
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[applause echoing]
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[monitor beeping]
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[breathing deeply]
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[monitor beeps echoing]
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[Greg] How did you feel
when you went to see Dr. Paul?
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Yeah.
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After Dr. Paul,
I felt much happier, much more safe.
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[Greg] You didn't feel safe before that?
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Well...
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Well, no,
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'cause not... not that many people
understood about me.
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[monitor beeping]
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[Dr. Telfer] Are you happy to talk about
the estrogen today and how that's going?
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Last time I saw you,
we increased the dose.
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Yeah, two milligrams.
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- [Dr. Telfer] Yeah, how's that going?
- It's been good.
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I mean, I do notice
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I get a bit more annoyed
at my parents than before.
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- Can you tell?
- [Beck] No.
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And even if you were, I don't think
I'd take a blind bit of notice.
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- Oh, good.
- [Beck] So...
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Okay, so next time,
you might get a little bit of sassiness.
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Will... will you mind? Okay, that's fine.
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[Beck] All I notice is that you are
feeling good about yourself,
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and that because
you're feeling good about yourself,
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your focus is very positive
on other things
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and that you're determined
to make the best life for yourself.
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[ethereal music plays]
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A lot of our work has revolved
around law reform for trans kids,
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'cause they have to apply
to the Family Court of Australia
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- Right.
- [Georgie] ...to access treatment.
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Yeah. Great.
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You've got a way to go
with trans awareness, do you think?
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[Georgie] This isn't really a new issue,
but in the public eye, it is.
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So there is a long way to go
making sure we battle the social stigma,
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um, which is ingrained in our society.
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[crowd cheering]
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[upbeat music plays]
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[crowd cheering]
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Hey, so, update.
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I'm gonna talk
a little bit about boys.
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Ugh.
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Okay, so I've had a crush on this guy
for about ten months,
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big crush, um,
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and turns out
he had a crush on my best friend.
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Ugh.
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[groaning]
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[Dr. Telfer]
Uh, it's nearly three years, isn't it?
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Having estrogen
before you're even looking at having
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any of those sort
of major surgical procedures.
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I can... I can do it.
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My teachers all support me,
and why shouldn't I do it?
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I've waited so long.
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[Dr. Telfer] Yeah.
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- And at 18, you're an adult.
- [Georgie] Yeah.
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You can make those decisions,
and clearly you've got the ability
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to... to make
a really good, informed decision,
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and it's totally up to you.
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[Georgie] So, yeah.
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[breathing heavily]
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[monitor beeping]
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[Georgie] Going into the clinic today,
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I started thinking,
"Okay, this is gonna happen."
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- This is happening.
- [Beck] Yeah, I know. I know.
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Yeah.
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Really, the meaning of it is all... you.
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[Georgie] Yeah.
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[Beck] It's nobody else.
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Yeah.
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I have my feelings about it
because I want you to be...
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who you want to be,
and I want you to be safe.
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[Georgie] Mmm.
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[Beck] But...
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it's... it's just you.
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It's just for you.
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[Georgie] Mmm.
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I don't want it to change things though.
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[pensive music plays]
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[tearfully] I don't want to be trans.
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But it is who I am, so I can't really...
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I try not to think about,
"Oh, I wish I wasn't trans."
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I am trans, and I have to live with it.
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And I will have to live
with it all my life.
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I don't want this operation
to change anything
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'cause I'm really happy.
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[sniffles]
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And, yeah,
I don't have the body that I want,
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but I'm still female.
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And I just don't want
this operation to change who I am.
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[sniffles]
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Obviously, I want it
to change my body, but I don't want it...
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[swallows]
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I don't want it
to change people's perceptions of me.
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I don't want it to change
how I live my life and...
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[sniffles] I still want to be Georgie.
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[monitor beeping]
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[melodica softly plays]
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[children's voices echoing]
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[melodica playing continues]
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[Greg] Sweetie.
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Hey.
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[monitor beeping]
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[Beck] You've had a lovely sleep.
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- [weakly] I'm tired.
- [Beck] Mmm.
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[Greg] You just keep sleeping
as long as you like.
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[Beck] Okay. And is Justice Thackray
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going to deliver that from court
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or in chambers or...
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[indistinct speaking over phone]
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The judgment is gonna be handed down
tomorrow at midday.
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- Wow.
- [Beck] Mmm...
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It could all be over tomorrow.
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That's crazy. It's like all that work,
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everything is leading up to tomorrow.
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[Beck] That would mean
a whole bunch of our friends
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wouldn't have to go through it.
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The kids wouldn't have to go through it.
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[Georgie] My family and I were able
to reform Stage 1,
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so we didn't have to go to court,
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but you still have to for Stage 2.
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Stage 2 treatment is cross-sex hormones.
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That's beginning the puberty
that you want to undertake.
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And this treatment for trans kids
is vital for our mental health,
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for our physical health.
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We really need this treatment.
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My mum and I and lots of people
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have been rallying support for this cause
to get this process out of the courts.
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And hopefully, all that work has paid off.
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- We'll see.
- [reporter] We'll see.
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[hopeful music plays]
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[monitor beeping]
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[Dr. Telfer] We won!
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[crowd applauding and cheering]
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[laughing]
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[Beck] Oh my God.
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- [Dr. Telfer] Congratulations.
- [crying softly]
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Congratulations.
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[sobs]
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[friend] The world's changing, hey?
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Oh, darling girl.
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[whispers] We won.
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Can't believe it. [sobs]
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- [cork pops]
- Oh jeez!
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[crowd cheering]
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And to all of you
for looking after our kids,
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thank you, thank you.
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[crowd applauding]
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For the next ten, twenty, thirty years,
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we will see
young people benefit from this,
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and... I suspect that
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those young people won't understand
what you've been through
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and won't understand
the significance of that freedom
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that they have to just access
the treatment they need,
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but we will always remember
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that, Georgie, it was you
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that fought this first.
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[tearfully] Thank you.
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- [woman 1] Cheers.
- [woman 2] Cheers.
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[Georgie] Over this past week,
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I... I was scared.
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- [Beck] Mmm.
- How I couldn't move my legs.
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[Beck] Mmm.
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Um, couldn't get out of the bed,
feeling trapped in there,
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feeling sick a lot of the time.
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It was just there were
so many things happening to my body.
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All because of this operation
that I wanted.
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Um, I started
a little bit to resent... resent it,
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or scared of resenting it,
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which is probably the truth.
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I was scared
of resenting this thing that I wanted,
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but... what made me so happy this morning,
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when... when my dressing came off
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and I saw my vagina for the first time,
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is that when I saw it, I didn't hate it.
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Um, I loved it.
And I said, "That's my vagina."
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And I really loved it.
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[sniffles]
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Uh, swollen, stitches, all of it.
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You know.
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It didn't matter.
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- [Beck] Mmm.
- I still loved it.
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[door shuts]
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I might try acting,
so I'm doing drama classes.
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I would love to play
a trans person in a film about
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all trans topics and make it realistic.
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[writer] Welcome.
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[Georgie] Thank you very much.
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We're really, really excited
to tell the story,
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and, uh, this is, um,
the Neighbours story team.
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So we just wanted
to kind of get your guidance
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to what is appropriate
and what isn't appropriate.
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Yeah.
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So, "transgender," is that an okay term?
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- [Georgie] Transgender is the term.
- Is the correct...
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[Georgie] Or trans.
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In terms of pronouns, she, her.
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- [writer] Yeah.
- Very simple.
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Obviously, when you meet new people,
and they just know you as Georgie...
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[Georgie] Yeah.
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...when they eventually
or if they eventually learn
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- that you're transgender...
- Yeah.
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...do they change at all
in how they interact with you?
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00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:07,899
Well, I... I do... I do think
there are some assumptions
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when meeting new people completely
about what my experience has been.
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A big one that a lot of people have is,
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"Oh, so you were born a boy,
but you want to be a girl."
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And how I see my experience is
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that I have always been female,
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even... even when I was, you know,
two and a half, and I had short hair,
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and people said "he," used male pronouns.
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Um, I still see myself then as female,
but I was assigned male at birth.
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Based on that experience
that you're describing,
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the character would have always known.
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Yeah. I've... I've always known who I am.
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I've always been a girl.
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[wistful music plays]
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00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:04,247
Why would he do that? I just wonder
if there's another beat in here.
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[crew member] Do you like that?
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Stand by.
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[laughs]
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00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:23,933
[talks indistinctly]
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00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:27,435
Ugh.
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00:27:27,437 --> 00:27:29,689
[crowd cheering]
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00:27:29,773 --> 00:27:31,250
- Thank you.
- [crew member] Mark cue.
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[clapboard clacks]
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[sniffles]
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[crew member] And set.
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Cameras are set.
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And... action!
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[Georgie exhales]
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[wistful melody plays]
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00:29:11,291 --> 00:29:12,333
[Georgie] Forever.
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[kisses] For big ever.
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