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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,099 The Nazi regime lasted from 1933 to 1945 2 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:09,359 and was undoubtedly 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,733 one of the most horrific periods of history. 4 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:17,339 To begin to understand Hitler, 5 00:00:17,340 --> 00:00:19,259 you've really gotta understand 6 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:22,593 that he was the most amazing demagogue. 7 00:00:24,510 --> 00:00:25,679 The Nazi Party 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,469 and its immoral leader instilled one 9 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:30,029 of the most corrupt regimes 10 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:33,332 on the people of Germany and its invisible enemies. 11 00:00:36,750 --> 00:00:40,893 However, Adolf Hitler was not working alone. 12 00:00:42,510 --> 00:00:44,279 It's the SS men doing the, 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,139 not only the exterminations, 14 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:47,429 and are notorious for being 15 00:00:47,430 --> 00:00:50,339 some of the most evil and deadly troops. 16 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:51,599 He had a circle of 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,120 some of the most barbaric and evil men alongside him 18 00:00:56,460 --> 00:00:58,763 who helped make the atrocities possible. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,529 If there were unpleasant things going on, 20 00:01:04,530 --> 00:01:06,239 or policies that they didn't like, 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,399 then somehow that Hitler couldn't know about it, 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,929 that he wasn't associated with it, 23 00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:10,979 it can't have been him. 24 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:14,279 If only the Fuhrer knew, this wouldn't be happening. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,700 These are the Nazi fugitives. 26 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:34,409 Adolf Hitler was a German politician 27 00:01:34,410 --> 00:01:36,749 and leader of the Nazi party. 28 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:41,039 He rose to power as the Chancellor of Germany in 1933, 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,743 and then as Fuhrer in 1934. 30 00:01:44,910 --> 00:01:49,259 During his dictatorship from 1933 to 1945, 31 00:01:49,260 --> 00:01:52,259 he initiated World War II in Europe 32 00:01:52,260 --> 00:01:57,119 by invading Poland on the 1st of September, 1939. 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,120 - Extremist politics thrives on chaos, on poverty, 34 00:02:03,780 --> 00:02:07,679 destitution, and want. 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,619 And what you see as a result of the Wall Street crash 36 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:13,803 and the slump, the late '20s, early '30s, 37 00:02:14,850 --> 00:02:18,419 are all those things in this hideous cocktail 38 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:21,059 that an extremist like Hitler, 39 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:23,321 he's saying, I can solve this. 40 00:02:26,190 --> 00:02:27,269 - Some of the important ways 41 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:30,719 in which he helped the party to develop 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,059 was through the initiation of a newspaper, 43 00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:35,706 so a party newspaper called the "Volkischer Beobatcher," 44 00:02:35,707 --> 00:02:37,469 "The People's Observer." 45 00:02:37,470 --> 00:02:41,969 - And also what Hitler is absolutely amazing at 46 00:02:41,970 --> 00:02:43,529 is speech making. 47 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:45,809 And to begin to understand Hitler, 48 00:02:45,810 --> 00:02:47,729 you've really gotta understand 49 00:02:47,730 --> 00:02:51,003 that he was the most amazing demagogue. 50 00:02:52,170 --> 00:02:55,079 He got on that stage this little man, 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,599 and he would sort of grow in stature. 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,419 He would sort of absolutely sort of, you know, 53 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:04,231 take over the entire beer hall with his presence. 54 00:03:16,051 --> 00:03:17,879 - And he would shout and he'd get quiet, 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,603 and he would almost enter into a kind of trance. 56 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:25,349 And the audiences would be mesmerized by this. 57 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:27,779 And indeed they'd be mesmerized by it for decades. 58 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:30,029 And this is key to how Hitler gets into power, 59 00:03:30,030 --> 00:03:31,919 because when he's on the stage, 60 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:34,095 he becomes another figure. 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,379 - On the 30th of January, 1933, 62 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:43,739 Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany, 63 00:03:43,740 --> 00:03:45,209 but of a coalition government. 64 00:03:45,210 --> 00:03:48,269 So there were just three Nazi posts 65 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:49,979 in that coalition government. 66 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:51,707 - It's very tempting to think that when Hitler, 67 00:03:51,708 --> 00:03:54,629 you know, comes to power in early 1933, 68 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:57,899 that his grip on power is absolutely total. 69 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:01,169 In fact, you know, he has a very uneven, shaky start. 70 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:03,509 He's still quite worried about public opinion. 71 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:07,619 So what he does is a mixture of passing various laws 72 00:04:07,620 --> 00:04:08,879 that give him more and more power, 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,849 like the Enabling Act that actually makes him, 74 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:13,376 you know, immensely powerful. 75 00:04:13,377 --> 00:04:16,529 But also he takes advantage of various events, 76 00:04:16,530 --> 00:04:18,899 like the Reichstag fire, 77 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:21,719 in which the German parliament building burns down. 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,389 Now, it's highly likely but never proven 79 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:27,089 whether the Nazis actually burnt it down themselves, 80 00:04:27,090 --> 00:04:29,369 but certainly in a sense, it doesn't matter. 81 00:04:29,370 --> 00:04:32,219 What happens is, is that Hitler and the Nazis 82 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:35,639 took advantage of the Reichstag burning down 83 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,466 to show that there was a Communist plot against 84 00:04:38,467 --> 00:04:40,649 what the Nazis described 85 00:04:40,650 --> 00:04:42,419 as still being a democratic government. 86 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:44,376 And it enabled them to seize more power, 87 00:04:44,377 --> 00:04:46,829 you know, by emergency decree. 88 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:49,889 - Very quickly, he turned Germany into a one-party state. 89 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:52,829 So first of all, he made sure to eliminate 90 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:56,279 the influence and power of the German political left. 91 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,979 So the Socialist Party and the Communist Party, 92 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:01,019 for a start, were banned. 93 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:03,539 But over a short amount of time as well, 94 00:05:03,540 --> 00:05:06,449 the Nazi Party was the only legal party too. 95 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:09,659 - Eventually, in January '33, he becomes chancellor. 96 00:05:09,660 --> 00:05:11,849 Now, don't forget, chancellor in Germany, 97 00:05:11,850 --> 00:05:13,409 and this still remains today, 98 00:05:13,410 --> 00:05:15,929 is not, at the time, the head of state. 99 00:05:15,930 --> 00:05:17,399 The head of state is the president. 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,809 So, it's the chancellor, though, 101 00:05:18,810 --> 00:05:20,763 who has the real executive power. 102 00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:25,859 In order to take as much power as he can, 103 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:29,189 he's also gonna have to make himself head of state. 104 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:32,009 And that really becomes an opportunity for him 105 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:33,659 when Hindenburg dies 106 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:35,489 and he's able to take on the role 107 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:37,499 of both president and chancellor 108 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:40,859 and kind of create this new role for himself. 109 00:05:40,860 --> 00:05:43,019 And that is the role of Fuhrer, 110 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:45,119 the German word for leader. 111 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,939 That is a fascist term, be there no doubt. 112 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:50,639 This is a kind of new form of governance 113 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,259 that Germany now has. 114 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:54,149 Other parties are banned, 115 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:57,269 the only party allowed is the Nazi Party. 116 00:05:57,270 --> 00:06:00,719 This has become a totalitarian state, 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,599 and Hitler can say to the German people, 118 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,159 you voted for it. 119 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,871 It's a con, and it's a con that worked. 120 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:26,849 With pagan pageantry, 121 00:06:26,850 --> 00:06:29,249 the district leaders from all over Germany 122 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:31,589 swore personal allegiance to him, 123 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:32,942 hypnotized with the belief 124 00:06:32,943 --> 00:06:35,673 that they were members of a master race. 125 00:06:40,110 --> 00:06:42,839 This film will deal with act one of the Nazi bid 126 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:44,009 for world power, 127 00:06:44,010 --> 00:06:47,253 the most fantastic play in all recorded history. 128 00:07:02,250 --> 00:07:05,519 - Hitler starts to build up his power by, you know, 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,129 trying to employ and find the right people 130 00:07:08,130 --> 00:07:11,489 who are gonna listen to the beat of his drum and follow it. 131 00:07:11,490 --> 00:07:15,989 And so there's a lot of very patient politicking 132 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:19,169 and a lot of persuasion, a lot of speech making, 133 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:21,749 you know, it's a very, very difficult rise to power. 134 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:25,049 But Hitler knows that it can't take place through force, 135 00:07:25,050 --> 00:07:29,024 it has to take place from the ballot box and not the bullet. 136 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:37,739 Paul Joseph Goebbels 137 00:07:37,740 --> 00:07:40,049 was a German Nazi politician 138 00:07:40,050 --> 00:07:42,119 and Reich Minister of Propaganda 139 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,783 of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. 140 00:07:46,650 --> 00:07:48,749 He was one of Adolf Hitler's closest 141 00:07:48,750 --> 00:07:50,733 and most devoted associates. 142 00:07:51,780 --> 00:07:54,569 He was known for his skills in public speaking 143 00:07:54,570 --> 00:07:57,959 and his deeply virulent antisemitism, 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,963 which was evident in his publicly-voiced views. 145 00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:05,159 In May, 1933, Goebbels arranged 146 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,309 the burning of all un-German books 147 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:10,469 at the Opera House in Berlin, 148 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:13,973 indicating that the Nazis were taking control of everything. 149 00:08:15,210 --> 00:08:17,699 He gained control of the media entirely, 150 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:20,189 controlling all aspects of the press, 151 00:08:20,190 --> 00:08:23,729 radio, theaters, films, and television, 152 00:08:23,730 --> 00:08:26,583 literature, music, and the fine arts. 153 00:08:28,170 --> 00:08:30,209 Joseph Goebbels and his wife, Magda, 154 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:33,299 are seen as the perfect German family 155 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:35,679 to set an example for the German people. 156 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:40,379 - Joseph Goebbels joined the Nazi Party quite early on, 157 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:41,669 as did Hitler. 158 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:46,349 And he became very much involved in those early years 159 00:08:46,350 --> 00:08:47,939 with helping the party to develop, 160 00:08:47,940 --> 00:08:51,089 and in particular, with these techniques of propaganda, 161 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:53,009 and really getting these messages across 162 00:08:53,010 --> 00:08:54,659 to the German nation. 163 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:57,509 Part of the way that he and Hitler did this 164 00:08:57,510 --> 00:08:59,369 was to use very short slogans, 165 00:08:59,370 --> 00:09:01,019 but to keep repeating them 166 00:09:01,020 --> 00:09:04,923 so that everybody knew what the Nazi Party was about. 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:07,950 - He is married 168 00:09:07,951 --> 00:09:11,579 to a very sort of striking woman called Magda. 169 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:13,109 Now, Magda has been married before 170 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:15,329 to a very wealthy German industrialist, 171 00:09:15,330 --> 00:09:16,649 but she eventually gets divorced 172 00:09:16,650 --> 00:09:18,239 and marries Joseph Goebbels, 173 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,549 who was a real Casanova actually, 174 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:22,529 even though he was short, club footed, 175 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:24,655 and not an attractive man, 176 00:09:24,656 --> 00:09:26,812 you know, he had a lot of sexual conquests. 177 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,629 What you see in the marriage 178 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:35,630 of Joseph Goebbels and Magda is a three way, not in bed, 179 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:42,380 but emotionally between those two and Adolf Hitler, 180 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:46,829 because Adolf Hitler absolutely adored Magda Goebbels 181 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:50,429 and thought that she was the kind of perfect Nazi woman. 182 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:51,779 You know, and she was blonde 183 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:54,419 and she was, you know, sort of vivacious 184 00:09:54,420 --> 00:09:57,269 and she was absolutely devoted to Hitler. 185 00:09:57,270 --> 00:09:58,645 She absolutely adored him. 186 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:02,219 - Magda was very good for the Nazi Party. 187 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:05,669 And when Goebbels introduced her to Hitler, 188 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:07,769 Hitler got on very well with her 189 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:09,209 and sort of could see the advantages 190 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:11,819 and encouraged them to get married. 191 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:13,319 Part of the reason for that was 192 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,789 that she was very well bred and very refined and elegant. 193 00:10:17,790 --> 00:10:19,109 She was the mother of the Reich, 194 00:10:19,110 --> 00:10:21,179 because she had six children. 195 00:10:21,180 --> 00:10:22,859 - Hitler liked the Goebbels's marriage 196 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:24,299 as a kind of domestic situation 197 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:25,726 he could drop in and out of. 198 00:10:25,727 --> 00:10:29,339 He liked the security that involved children running around, 199 00:10:29,340 --> 00:10:32,009 boats on lakes, you know, it felt normal. 200 00:10:32,010 --> 00:10:34,979 And also, Hitler did not want to have any rumors 201 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:37,469 about his relationship with Magda Goebbels, 202 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:39,179 because there were rumors 203 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:41,789 that he had fathered some of the Goebbels' children, 204 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:44,009 and that had seen even a very senior Nazi sent 205 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:46,865 to a concentration camp for actually mentioning that. 206 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:50,879 - Hitler and Joseph Goebbels 207 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,549 had sort of grown through the ranks of the Nazi Party, 208 00:10:53,550 --> 00:10:54,689 and sort of succeeded, 209 00:10:54,690 --> 00:10:57,419 sort of made their rise to success together. 210 00:10:57,420 --> 00:10:59,609 When Hitler came to power, 211 00:10:59,610 --> 00:11:01,979 Goebbels was somehow overlooked for a cabinet position. 212 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:02,970 We said there were just three, 213 00:11:02,971 --> 00:11:04,829 he didn't get any of them. 214 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:06,899 Nevertheless, after the Nazis took power, 215 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:08,669 that seizure of power, 216 00:11:08,670 --> 00:11:11,759 he orchestrated a very big torchlight parade, 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,585 a kind of victory parade for the new movement. 218 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,119 He knew how to get the message across to the Germans. 219 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,879 So once he was the Minister of Propaganda, 220 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,429 first of all, there was censorship of the press, 221 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:25,709 but also not just controlling the press, 222 00:11:25,710 --> 00:11:28,319 but he controlled all aspects of cultural life. 223 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,909 So that was art, architecture, literature, music. 224 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:36,209 Propaganda machine was very, very important 225 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:39,149 to the whole story that the Third Reich was telling, 226 00:11:39,150 --> 00:11:40,859 and indeed, right up until the end. 227 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:41,999 And indeed even important, 228 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,249 once the tide of the war turned against Germany. 229 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:47,699 There was still this need to maintain the storyline, 230 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:51,903 to maintain what the Third Reich represented. 231 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:57,419 - So, you know, you have essentially Goebbels 232 00:11:57,420 --> 00:11:59,969 heart of the Third Reich, propaganda minister, 233 00:11:59,970 --> 00:12:01,409 getting word out there. 234 00:12:01,410 --> 00:12:03,479 Magda Goebbels, his wife, 235 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,112 who is more devoted to Hitler than to him. 236 00:12:07,113 --> 00:12:08,699 And then you've got Goebbels 237 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:10,049 who's probably more devoted to Hitler 238 00:12:10,050 --> 00:12:11,399 than he is to his own wife. 239 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,369 And if you want to see the ultimate expression 240 00:12:14,370 --> 00:12:19,370 of this twisted, bizarre, dark, horrific love, if you like, 241 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:22,919 it's the fact that they both kill themselves 242 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,899 to follow Hitler into the afterlife. 243 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:28,859 And they kill their own children in the bunker, 244 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:30,539 poison all six children, 245 00:12:30,540 --> 00:12:31,889 because a world without Hitler 246 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:35,549 and a world without Nazism is no place for their kids. 247 00:12:35,550 --> 00:12:37,691 That's how much they adored Hitler. 248 00:12:48,330 --> 00:12:50,849 Heinrich Himmler was Reichsfuhrer 249 00:12:50,850 --> 00:12:52,349 of the Schutzstaffel 250 00:12:52,350 --> 00:12:55,053 and a leading member of the Nazi Party of Germany. 251 00:12:56,460 --> 00:12:58,949 Himmler was considered one of the most powerful men 252 00:12:58,950 --> 00:13:00,149 in Nazi Germany, 253 00:13:00,150 --> 00:13:02,583 and a leading architect of the Holocaust. 254 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:05,969 Heinrich Himmler established his force 255 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:09,183 of elite bodyguards for Hitler, the SS. 256 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:11,070 Himmler established 257 00:13:11,071 --> 00:13:13,919 the first Nazi concentration camp in Dachau, 258 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,729 indicating he had no issue bringing harm to Jews 259 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:20,073 as he considered them vermin within Germany. 260 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:24,089 - Himmler, like Hitler, looked like the very inverse 261 00:13:24,090 --> 00:13:28,949 of the kind of Aryan, blonde, 6'5" tall superhuman. 262 00:13:28,950 --> 00:13:30,689 You know, he was a very short man. 263 00:13:30,690 --> 00:13:33,179 He has weak jawline, very ugly. 264 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:35,099 You know, he has pebble glasses, 265 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:36,689 former chicken farmer. 266 00:13:36,690 --> 00:13:40,439 You know, he looked very, very unimpressive. 267 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,649 - Himmler had joined the Nazi Party in quite early years. 268 00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:46,469 And I think that the important thing about what Himmler did 269 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:49,106 was that he established the SS. 270 00:13:49,107 --> 00:13:52,259 And the SS started out as a very small group, 271 00:13:52,260 --> 00:13:55,919 and, in fact, started out as Hitler's personal bodyguard. 272 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,579 Himmler extended his power very quickly and his power base. 273 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:02,579 So with the SS, a very small organization 274 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:05,069 that had started out as Hitler's bodyguard 275 00:14:05,070 --> 00:14:07,169 suddenly became thousands strong. 276 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:10,529 By about 1936, he was in charge 277 00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:15,269 of a very vast complex of the SS, the Gestapo, 278 00:14:15,270 --> 00:14:18,807 which was the secret police, and the security police. 279 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,859 And what Himmler does from, 280 00:14:22,860 --> 00:14:24,809 you know, almost from the beginning, 281 00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:29,810 is to build the SS up into a state within a state. 282 00:14:30,030 --> 00:14:33,179 Because by the height of Nazi power, 283 00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:35,969 Himmler is in charge of an organization 284 00:14:35,970 --> 00:14:39,659 that has a kind of civil side to it, 285 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:41,069 an administrative side to it, 286 00:14:41,070 --> 00:14:44,339 which is huge and has fingers in so many pies. 287 00:14:44,340 --> 00:14:47,609 And also the Waffen SS, the armed SS, 288 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:50,309 which is there, you know, to help fight the war. 289 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:52,166 And its troops are notorious 290 00:14:52,167 --> 00:14:53,459 for being some of the most sort of, 291 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:56,369 kind of evil and deadly troops, you know, 292 00:14:56,370 --> 00:14:58,229 as part of the war. 293 00:14:58,230 --> 00:15:00,059 He became in charge 294 00:15:00,060 --> 00:15:03,839 of the whole concentration camp system. 295 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,239 - He was responsible for the Holocaust 296 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,019 because, you know, it was the SS largely who carried it out. 297 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:13,949 And when he went to go and kind of witness a slaughter, 298 00:15:13,950 --> 00:15:17,639 you know, some brains were splattered upon his coat 299 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,885 and it caused him to vomit. 300 00:15:19,886 --> 00:15:22,799 You know, this is the man responsible for it, 301 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,209 and he can't cope with it. 302 00:15:24,210 --> 00:15:25,619 I'm not saying it's desirable 303 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:26,819 that he should have coped with it, 304 00:15:26,820 --> 00:15:27,750 but it just shows you 305 00:15:27,751 --> 00:15:30,869 that he didn't actually have the personal appetite 306 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:32,639 for butchering people himself 307 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,199 and got other people to do it. 308 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,186 In many ways, he was a coward. 309 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,259 Hermann Wilhelm Goring was a German politician, 310 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:52,510 a military leader, and later a convicted war criminal 311 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,689 Goring was one of the most influential figures 312 00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:59,073 in the Nazi party. 313 00:16:01,350 --> 00:16:03,749 He was also framed in a scandal, 314 00:16:03,750 --> 00:16:05,159 claiming he was attempting 315 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,553 to take over the Fuhrer's powers in the war's final days. 316 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,169 Goring wrote a letter to Hitler, 317 00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:15,569 offering to relieve Hitler of his duties 318 00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:18,719 and act in his place as he had believed the Fuhrer 319 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,333 was encircled and helpless in Berlin. 320 00:16:23,970 --> 00:16:26,009 This was a reasonable act 321 00:16:26,010 --> 00:16:29,153 as Hitler had named him the political heir. 322 00:16:32,423 --> 00:16:34,799 Hitler issued a telegram to Goring 323 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,259 and told him he had committed high treason 324 00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:40,169 and gave him the option to resign his office 325 00:16:40,170 --> 00:16:42,333 in exchange for his life. 326 00:16:45,570 --> 00:16:49,439 - Hermann Goring is a really key Nazi figure. 327 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,819 He's a big figure in every way, 328 00:16:50,820 --> 00:16:53,489 because he also became enormously fat. 329 00:16:53,490 --> 00:16:56,879 But you've gotta think of Goring and his kind of arc, 330 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,713 if you like. 331 00:16:57,714 --> 00:17:01,019 So he goes from being a First World War fighter pilot hero 332 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,299 who's got the Pour le Merite medal, 333 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:05,939 which is the highest medal that can be won 334 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:08,849 by the German fighting man in the First World War. 335 00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:09,683 You know, for the British, 336 00:17:09,684 --> 00:17:11,279 it's like winning the Victoria Cross, 337 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,539 or for the Americans, 338 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:14,369 it's like winning the kind of Medal of Honor. 339 00:17:14,370 --> 00:17:16,829 It's a hugely important award. 340 00:17:16,830 --> 00:17:19,289 And so he's a venerated pilot, 341 00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:21,892 very successful fighter pilot during the First World War. 342 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:30,629 And then when he falls in with the Nazis 343 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:32,039 in Munich in the 20s, 344 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,899 he's feeling that that's giving him 345 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:35,321 a kind of sense of purpose. 346 00:17:42,850 --> 00:17:44,609 - Goring was quite an interesting character 347 00:17:44,610 --> 00:17:48,059 because he had several different roles in the Third Reich. 348 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:49,259 And even before then, 349 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:51,299 if we think about his First World War record 350 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:52,919 as this sort of flying ace, 351 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,499 it meant that later on Hitler made him head 352 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:57,810 of the Luftwaffe, the German Air Force. 353 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:04,733 - The problem is, 354 00:18:04,734 --> 00:18:08,699 is that he's on the famous Beer Hall Putsch in 1923, 355 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,679 and he gets shot and wounded. 356 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,069 And when he's recuperating from his wounds, 357 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:17,159 he's given morphine, heroin effectively. 358 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,493 And it's that that he becomes addicted to. 359 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:26,399 Goring is addicted to morphine all the way through 360 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,949 from the Beer Hall Putsch in '23, you know, 361 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:33,575 for another 23 years until he dies in 1946. 362 00:18:33,576 --> 00:18:35,883 You know, it holds him back in many ways. 363 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:40,169 But he is a man who likes the finest things in life. 364 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:42,179 And so when the Nazis do come to power, 365 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:44,189 and that's partly thanks to the fact 366 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:46,529 that Goring is such a capable politician, 367 00:18:46,530 --> 00:18:48,869 and because he comes from a pretty well-off background 368 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:51,839 and married to, you know, an aristocrat. 369 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,859 You know, he, 370 00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:55,349 to some of the kind of old school German bigwigs, 371 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:57,629 looks like the decent face of Nazism 372 00:18:57,630 --> 00:18:59,309 because he's kind of a war hero 373 00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:00,993 and quite an old school figure. 374 00:19:02,910 --> 00:19:04,139 So he's absolutely instrumental 375 00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:06,029 in helping the Nazis get into power, 376 00:19:06,030 --> 00:19:08,111 and he consolidates a lot of power 377 00:19:08,112 --> 00:19:11,879 into his own pockets and hands, if you like. 378 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,559 So he's in charge of the Prussian police. 379 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,809 He's initially in charge of the Gestapo, 380 00:19:15,810 --> 00:19:17,129 the secret state police. 381 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:19,199 He's in charge of the Four Year Plan, 382 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,816 which is an important economic imperative. 383 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,109 This is a man with a lot of power, 384 00:19:28,110 --> 00:19:31,593 and he uses it to personally enrich himself. 385 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:36,869 When you look at pictures of Goring throughout the war, 386 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:38,999 you just see this body getting bigger, bigger and bigger, 387 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,393 and his uniforms getting more and more ostentatious. 388 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:46,289 And he had like millions of medals everywhere, 389 00:19:46,290 --> 00:19:48,539 and the uniforms'd be like bright white 390 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,129 with gold all over them. 391 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:53,909 And he would have properties, amazing hunting lodges. 392 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:55,649 He loved hunting. 393 00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:58,109 And whenever the Nazis conquered countries, 394 00:19:58,110 --> 00:19:59,429 he'd be right at the front of it, 395 00:19:59,430 --> 00:20:04,430 looting all the works of art, statues, paintings, jewelry, 396 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,163 you name it, that would all go into Goring's pocket. 397 00:20:11,670 --> 00:20:14,819 He made himself almost impossibly rich. 398 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:16,469 And he also had vast appetites. 399 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:18,089 Not only for morphine, 400 00:20:18,090 --> 00:20:21,416 but also for alcohol, for food, you know, 401 00:20:21,417 --> 00:20:23,841 for all the finest things in life. 402 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,099 And, in fact, he became a victim of his own self-indulgence. 403 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:40,379 And when the Battle of Britain failed, 404 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:43,259 and when the German Air Force was shown to be, 405 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:46,949 you know, inferior to a smaller British Air Force, 406 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:49,626 he started, you know, to be laughed at behind his back. 407 00:20:49,627 --> 00:20:51,329 You know, he became 408 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:54,749 this kind of drug-addled alcoholic whale of a man 409 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:56,969 who other Nazis would laugh at and not take seriously, 410 00:20:56,970 --> 00:20:58,420 and saw him as an impediment. 411 00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:02,429 By the end of the war, he's this joke figure. 412 00:21:02,430 --> 00:21:05,219 And it's at Nuremberg when he's off the drugs, 413 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:06,569 when he loses weight, 414 00:21:06,570 --> 00:21:08,669 his brain suddenly gets sharper again. 415 00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:10,709 And of all the Nazis in the dock at Nuremberg, 416 00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:12,269 he's the most impressive. 417 00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:15,329 And that old flash of intelligence and brilliance 418 00:21:15,330 --> 00:21:17,729 that's got him to the top of the Nazi tree 419 00:21:17,730 --> 00:21:18,899 is shown once more. 420 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:21,509 And it's Goring who cheats the hangman 421 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:24,847 by committing suicide in his cell in 1946. 422 00:21:28,590 --> 00:21:31,632 Does he get the last laugh? In some ways, he does. 423 00:21:43,050 --> 00:21:45,419 Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoss 424 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:48,209 was a German Schutzstaffel functionary 425 00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:49,619 during the Nazi era, 426 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:52,113 who was later convicted as a war criminal. 427 00:21:53,550 --> 00:21:55,246 He was the longest serving commandant 428 00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:58,623 of the Auschwitz concentration and extermination camp. 429 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:01,919 He tested and implemented means 430 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,929 to accelerate Hitler's plan 431 00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:07,109 to exterminate the Jewish population systematically 432 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:09,269 and introduced Zyklon B, 433 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:12,843 containing hydrogen cyanide used in the gas chambers. 434 00:22:14,151 --> 00:22:16,409 Now, he was the commandant of Auschwitz. 435 00:22:16,410 --> 00:22:18,059 And as a result, as, you know, 436 00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:20,369 probably got about a million people, you know, 437 00:22:20,370 --> 00:22:22,323 against his name, who he had murdered. 438 00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:26,249 He typified the quiet 439 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:29,099 and bureaucratic mass murderer. 440 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:30,269 Very conscientious, 441 00:22:30,270 --> 00:22:33,419 very determined to do his job and to do it well. 442 00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:35,699 And, of course, without much thought for the victims. 443 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,739 So in terms of what he was doing at Auschwitz, 444 00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:40,259 trying to make a very efficient machine 445 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:42,659 and trying to do his job well and properly. 446 00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:44,429 His concern was not with the victims, 447 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:47,789 but just to make sure that the apparatus was working well. 448 00:22:47,790 --> 00:22:48,623 So in this case, 449 00:22:48,624 --> 00:22:52,081 to ensure that the gas chambers could operate efficiently. 450 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,619 He treated the mass murder that went on there 451 00:22:58,620 --> 00:23:00,029 just as a kind of routine 452 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:02,099 and ordinary business as usual, really, 453 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:04,863 very much as a kind of ordinary procedure and process. 454 00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:10,589 He took pride in being the first to use Zyklon B 455 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:14,549 as the gas used for the gassing of his victims. 456 00:23:14,550 --> 00:23:17,669 And he was so efficient that, at Auschwitz, 457 00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:20,429 2.5 million prisoners met their deaths. 458 00:23:20,430 --> 00:23:22,019 So it's a massive death toll, 459 00:23:22,020 --> 00:23:24,287 2.5 million deaths at Auschwitz. 460 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:28,889 He went into hiding at the end of the war 461 00:23:28,890 --> 00:23:30,359 on the advice of Heinrich Himmler, 462 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,699 his ultimate boss in the SS. 463 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:34,529 And Hoss disguises himself 464 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:37,503 and hides amongst various German navy personnel. 465 00:23:39,630 --> 00:23:42,359 He's eventually picked up by the British 466 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:44,729 who've actually interrogated his wife, 467 00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:45,839 who's actually terrified 468 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,419 that she's gonna be tortured by the Brits 469 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:50,879 and she's basically spilled the beans. 470 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,309 So Hoss is brought to justice. 471 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:55,679 And there is this extraordinary image 472 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,879 of a British war crimes officer actually confronting Hoss, 473 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,609 who looks like this completely pathetic figure. 474 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:04,619 You know, looking absolutely terrified 475 00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:06,539 while this sort of tall British Army officer 476 00:24:06,540 --> 00:24:08,369 is just basically shouting at him. 477 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:09,210 And it shows, you know, 478 00:24:09,211 --> 00:24:10,589 basically, this man who had power 479 00:24:10,590 --> 00:24:12,689 of life and death over millions of people 480 00:24:12,690 --> 00:24:15,179 is reduced to this pathetic figure. 481 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:18,089 Now, the British hand him over to the Poles. 482 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:21,269 And it's the Poles who actually bring him to justice, 483 00:24:21,270 --> 00:24:23,343 and it's the Poles who hang him. 484 00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:30,299 We had two SS doctors on duty at Auschwitz 485 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:33,239 to examine the incoming transports of prisoners. 486 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,459 Prisoners would be marched past one of the doctors 487 00:24:35,460 --> 00:24:38,309 who would make spot decisions as they walked by. 488 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:41,249 Those who were fit for work were sent into the camp. 489 00:24:41,250 --> 00:24:44,249 Others were sent immediately to the extermination plant. 490 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:47,009 Children of tender years were invariably exterminated 491 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:50,519 since by reasons of their youth, they were unable to work. 492 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,499 We endeavored to fool them into thinking 493 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:55,053 they were to go through a delousing process. 494 00:24:57,150 --> 00:24:59,416 It took from 3 to 15 minutes to kill the people 495 00:24:59,417 --> 00:25:00,749 in the death chamber, 496 00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:03,359 depending upon climatic conditions. 497 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,339 We knew when the people were dead 498 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:06,940 because their screaming stopped. 499 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,259 We usually waited about one half hour 500 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:16,259 before we opened the doors and removed the bodies. 501 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:17,819 After the bodies were removed, 502 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,009 our special commanders took off the rings 503 00:25:20,010 --> 00:25:22,863 and extracted the gold from the teeth of the corpses. 504 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:26,939 He was brought before a Polish military tribunal. 505 00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:31,940 And he was found guilty, and he was executed in April, 1947. 506 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:37,049 Was taken back to Auschwitz 507 00:25:37,050 --> 00:25:40,859 to outside the house where he and his family had lived, 508 00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:43,129 and he was executed there. 509 00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:46,289 He was executed there at the place where he had lived, 510 00:25:46,290 --> 00:25:50,339 and at the place where he had sent millions of people to die 511 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:53,073 during his time as commandant at Auschwitz. 512 00:26:04,471 --> 00:26:06,119 Otto Adolf Eichmann 513 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,809 was a German-Austrian SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer 514 00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:13,049 and one of the major organizers of the Holocaust, 515 00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:16,439 the "Final Solution to the Jewish question," 516 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,033 in Nazi terminology, 517 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,389 Eichmann quickly became known 518 00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:23,729 as the world's most wanted Nazi. 519 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:26,939 Branded the architect of the Final Solution 520 00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:28,653 to exterminate Jews. 521 00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:32,189 He was seen as the mastermind 522 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:34,139 behind the network of death camps 523 00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:35,849 that resulted in the murder 524 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:38,843 of approximately 6 million people. 525 00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:42,539 He orchestrated the identification, 526 00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:45,779 assembly, and transportation of European Jews 527 00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:50,613 to Auschwitz, Treblinka, and other death camps in Poland. 528 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,319 Adolf Eichmann was in charge 529 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,579 of the Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna, first of all. 530 00:26:59,580 --> 00:27:03,419 So he kind of, sort of rose to a prominent position 531 00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:05,639 after the Anschluss in 1938. 532 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,529 And essentially he was responsible 533 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:12,530 for the forced removal or relocation of first Vienna's 534 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:15,659 and then the rest of Austria's Jews. 535 00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:17,609 And then, of course, for the forced removal 536 00:27:17,610 --> 00:27:21,719 of all of the European Jews who were under Nazi rule 537 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,849 as the years went on. 538 00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:27,479 Eichmann today is an incredibly notorious name, 539 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,019 and we all today know him to be the man he was. 540 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:32,969 You know, he's famously and notoriously called 541 00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:35,369 the architect of the Final Solution. 542 00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:36,203 What he was, 543 00:27:36,204 --> 00:27:38,189 was in charge of a department 544 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:40,259 of the Reich Security Main Office, 545 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:42,509 and it was called Department IV-B4. 546 00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:45,689 It was part of the Gestapo, the secret state police. 547 00:27:45,690 --> 00:27:49,889 And his job was to basically wage war against the Jews. 548 00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:51,689 And it was Eichmann's job 549 00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:56,690 was to help facilitate the destruction of the Jewish people. 550 00:27:57,725 --> 00:28:00,089 He was responsible for registering, assembling, 551 00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:02,429 and then transporting the Jews 552 00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:06,843 from different assembly points to the death camps in Poland. 553 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,019 In December, 1939, 554 00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:13,349 he sort of took on a more important or kind of bigger role 555 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:15,929 within the Gestapo as head 556 00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:19,709 of the Jewish Office of the Reich Main Security Office. 557 00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:22,919 And so, again, the main point of that role really 558 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,609 was to orchestrate and carry out the removal 559 00:28:26,610 --> 00:28:30,603 of all of the European Jews to the death camps in Poland. 560 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,419 He was effectively the guy, 561 00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:34,799 didn't come up with the policy, 562 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,529 but he was the guy who zealously implemented it. 563 00:28:37,530 --> 00:28:40,229 And he knew that if he was captured, 564 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:41,510 he would face the noose. 565 00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:46,649 Eichmann was arrested at the end of the war, 566 00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:49,859 but his name wasn't very well known at that stage. 567 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:50,790 He managed to escape 568 00:28:50,791 --> 00:28:55,169 from an American internment camp in 1946. 569 00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:58,589 He decided to call himself Eckmann, 570 00:28:58,590 --> 00:29:00,479 and then he managed to, you know, 571 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,099 go into hiding for quite a few years in Germany on farms. 572 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,189 And he tried to sort of recreate his life 573 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:11,699 as a kind of, you know, humble son of the soil, if you like. 574 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,129 But actually by the late 1940s, 575 00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:17,069 he realizes that things are getting a bit hot. 576 00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:19,859 He suspects that war crimes units may be after him. 577 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:23,489 And what he does is that he eventually flees to Argentina, 578 00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:25,383 where he tries to create a new life. 579 00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:33,029 Eventually, in 1960, the Israeli Secret Services, 580 00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:34,649 after quite a lot of detective work, 581 00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:36,419 managed to find him. 582 00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:39,179 And then came into place an operation 583 00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:42,179 really to smuggle him out of Argentina 584 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:46,563 and to bring him to Israel in order to stand trial. 585 00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:50,189 - Behind this fence, 586 00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:53,429 the pages of history are being turned back 587 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:56,849 to one of the most terrible chapters of our time. 588 00:29:56,850 --> 00:30:00,089 Adolf Eichmann faces probably the most appalling list 589 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:03,393 of charges ever to be leveled against a single human being. 590 00:30:04,290 --> 00:30:07,439 But if Eichmann's is the name on the charge sheet, 591 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,749 the Israelis have made very clear 592 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:11,913 who they think is really in the dock. 593 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,723 In the building where Eichmann is being tried, 594 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:18,599 the Israelis are trying 595 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,509 to place before the conscience of the world 596 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:26,510 the full facts of how the Nazis in Germany tried, literally, 597 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,843 to exterminate millions of the Jewish people in Europe. 598 00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:36,629 Now, to us, the Nazi persecution is 15 years or more away, 599 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:38,519 but to the people living here, 600 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,713 it's still a sharp memory. 601 00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:45,389 The children playing in the warm spring sunshine, 602 00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:50,039 the older people going about their everyday lives, 603 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,040 many of them had relatives who died in Hitler's gas ovens. 604 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,943 And even here in Israel, they found no peaceful haven. 605 00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:03,539 Just over a mile up the road from here, 606 00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:08,540 there's a barbed wire fence and sentries stand guard. 607 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,639 This is the border across which Israel looks 608 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,273 to an implacably hostile Arab neighbor. 609 00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:17,673 To the people of Israel, 610 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,289 persecution, personified by Eichmann, 611 00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:24,093 is still a living danger. 612 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,569 For now in this city of Jerusalem, 613 00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:30,809 which itself is no stranger to history, 614 00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:32,489 let us look back at the moment 615 00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:34,652 when this historic trial began. 616 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,209 In Jerusalem, 617 00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:41,459 the trial of Adolf Eichmann begins, 618 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:43,559 reviving memories of the Nazi horrors 619 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,179 of the Second World War. 620 00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:48,239 Entering the bulletproof prisoners box is the man charged 621 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,669 with the annihilation of millions of Jews 622 00:31:50,670 --> 00:31:52,085 in Nazi death camps. 623 00:31:55,170 --> 00:31:56,849 Searching problems of conscience 624 00:31:56,850 --> 00:31:59,969 and of international law will be raised by this trial, 625 00:31:59,970 --> 00:32:02,493 one of the most stirring of modern times. 626 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,359 Eichmann himself is impassive 627 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,539 as the three judges who will decide his fate enter. 628 00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:11,729 Now, after 15 years in hiding 629 00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:15,119 and one year after his sensational abduction from Argentina, 630 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,969 Adolf Eichmann is indicted on 15 counts 631 00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:19,949 of crimes against the Jewish people 632 00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:21,569 and crimes against humanity. 633 00:32:21,570 --> 00:32:23,458 The accused, together with the others, 634 00:32:23,459 --> 00:32:26,879 during a period of 1939 to 1945, 635 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,389 caused the killing of millions of Jews in his capacity 636 00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:32,879 as the person responsible for the execution 637 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,349 of the Nazi plan for the physical extermination of the Jews, 638 00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:40,083 known as the Final Solution of the Jewish problem. 639 00:32:42,270 --> 00:32:44,729 Eichmann's attorney, Dr. Robert Servatius, 640 00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:47,489 opens by denying the legality of the trial 641 00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:49,439 and questions the jurisdiction obtained 642 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,449 by Eichmann's forcible capture. 643 00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:54,629 Dr. Servatius further suggests that Eichmann be tried 644 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:58,108 by a neutral or international tribunal. 645 00:33:01,170 --> 00:33:03,389 Israeli attorney general, Gideon Hausner, 646 00:33:03,390 --> 00:33:05,046 the chief prosecutor replies, 647 00:33:05,047 --> 00:33:07,139 "That no one except the state of Israel 648 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:09,299 has sought to bring Eichmann to justice." 649 00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,609 And cites the Nuremberg war crimes trials 650 00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:13,439 as precedent for this trial. 651 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,169 Throughout, Eichmann remains icy calm, 652 00:33:16,170 --> 00:33:19,233 his fate, at last, in the scales of justice. 653 00:33:23,790 --> 00:33:26,489 The trial, which opened in April, 1961, 654 00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:27,659 was very controversial. 655 00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:31,169 But it also, of course, attracted a great deal 656 00:33:31,170 --> 00:33:33,188 of international attention as well. 657 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,150 When he was questioned, 658 00:33:36,151 --> 00:33:38,279 he claimed that he was only following orders. 659 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,639 He claimed not to be responsible for any of the executions, 660 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,373 and said he was just involved in transportation. 661 00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:47,129 So, again, that's the kind of line used 662 00:33:47,130 --> 00:33:48,299 about following orders 663 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:50,189 and not really admitting responsibility 664 00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:51,758 for the Final Solution. 665 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,560 Yes. 666 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,149 With regard to the Jews, 667 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:04,586 my only obligations were those concerned with emigration. 668 00:34:04,587 --> 00:34:08,159 And this transpires from the official designation 669 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,993 of the department, 670 00:34:08,994 --> 00:34:11,819 which was called Emigration and Evacuation. 671 00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:14,669 Emigration, that applied to the Jews, 672 00:34:14,670 --> 00:34:19,670 while evacuation, that concerned the sphere of jurisdiction 673 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:22,049 of the Reichskommissar 674 00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:24,813 for strengthening the basis of the German nation, 675 00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:28,743 a post to which Himmler was then appointed. 676 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,499 And this concerned the evacuation 677 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:37,499 of the newly annexed areas in the East, 678 00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:41,493 which were annexed to the Reich. 679 00:34:42,687 --> 00:34:45,569 And as Hitler and Himmler had ordered at that time, 680 00:34:45,570 --> 00:34:50,009 these areas had to be evacuated of Jews 681 00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:54,869 and other foreign nationalities. 682 00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:56,909 And my connection with this 683 00:34:56,910 --> 00:34:59,759 was strictly from the point of view of timetables 684 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,103 and technical transport problems. 685 00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:35,039 I do not remember it in detail, Your Honor. 686 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,759 I do not remember the circumstances of this conversation, 687 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,819 but I do know that these gentlemen were standing together 688 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:43,259 or sitting together 689 00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:47,609 and were discussing this subject quite bluntly, 690 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:49,079 quite differently from the language 691 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,599 which I had to use later in the record. 692 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,649 During the conversation, 693 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:55,423 they minced no words about it at all. 694 00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:35,309 I might say, furthermore, Your Honor, 695 00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:37,600 that I would not have remembered this 696 00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:41,129 unless I had later remember 697 00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:44,369 that I told myself, look here, 698 00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:45,330 I told myself, 699 00:36:45,331 --> 00:36:47,489 even this guy, Stuckart, 700 00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:49,439 who was known as one of these uncles 701 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,249 who was a great stickler for legalities, 702 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:56,789 he too uses language 703 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:59,609 which is not at all in accordance 704 00:36:59,610 --> 00:37:02,879 with the spirit of paragraphs of the law. 705 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,809 This incident remained engraved in my memory 706 00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:09,273 and recalls the entire subject to my mind. 707 00:37:17,556 --> 00:37:21,389 Eichmann was sentenced to death in December, 1961, 708 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:24,662 and he was executed in May, 1962. 709 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,439 Rudolf Walter Richard Hess 710 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,119 was a German politician 711 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,513 and a leading member of the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany. 712 00:37:58,710 --> 00:38:02,639 Appointed Deputy Fuhrer to Adolf Hitler in 1933, 713 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,029 Hess served in that position until 1941 714 00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:08,189 when he flew solo to Scotland 715 00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:11,279 in an attempt to negotiate peace with the United Kingdom 716 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,487 during World War II. 717 00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:18,119 Rudolph Hess noticed that the Fuhrer was preoccupied 718 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,869 and decided to take matters into his own hands. 719 00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:24,749 He decided to end the continuing military struggle 720 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:27,903 between Germany and the Allies using a peace pact. 721 00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:32,249 He secretly flies solo over Britain 722 00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:34,709 and lands in Scotland by parachute, 723 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:35,543 hoping to speak 724 00:38:35,544 --> 00:38:37,773 with one of the highly-placed British figures. 725 00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:41,099 He intended to offer respect 726 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,436 for the integrity of the British Empire, 727 00:38:43,437 --> 00:38:46,109 for Germany to have a free hand in Europe 728 00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:48,393 and the return of German colonies. 729 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,419 Of course, as soon as he was found out to be a Nazi, 730 00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:57,329 he was arrested and treated as a prisoner of war, 731 00:38:57,330 --> 00:39:00,093 held in a British prison until the war's end. 732 00:39:02,190 --> 00:39:05,909 Once Hitler hears of his plan and capture in Britain, 733 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:08,339 he declares Hess has committed treason 734 00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:09,952 and the Nazis reject him. 735 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:15,419 - Rudolph Hess was a very troubled man in many ways, 736 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:19,259 and you only have to look at his somewhat uneven expressions 737 00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:20,519 whenever he's captured on film. 738 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,619 He's got these very sort of thick brows, 739 00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:25,589 and he looks like he's puzzling about the world in general. 740 00:39:25,590 --> 00:39:28,829 He was a very sort of troubled man, 741 00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:31,530 and he was devoted to Hitler from the very early days. 742 00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:35,789 And it was Hess who was in Landsberg Prison 743 00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:38,609 after the failed Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. 744 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:41,189 And it was Hess who was by kind of Hitler's side, 745 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:42,629 you know, all the way through those sort of, 746 00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,020 kind of very dark years. 747 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:48,389 You know, as Hitler gained more power, 748 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:51,119 Hitler is loyal to Hess because Hess has been loyal to him, 749 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,100 and he makes him Deputy Fuhrer. 750 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:58,859 But it's clear that as the Nazi Party has come to power 751 00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:01,169 and its popularity and its ability 752 00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:03,179 to draw on talent has increased, 753 00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:05,399 it's basically shown up Hess 754 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,099 to be the kind of real second or third rater 755 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,119 that he actually is. 756 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,949 He's not really a very impressive figure. 757 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:12,599 You know, what does he offer, you know, 758 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,249 the Nazi regime who are out control? 759 00:40:14,250 --> 00:40:17,339 He doesn't have any great personal charisma 760 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:18,659 that's gonna draw people in. 761 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:20,999 He doesn't really have any particular kind 762 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,249 of administrative skills. 763 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:25,203 You know, what he is, is just loyal. 764 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,649 He's kind of totally out of his depth 765 00:40:28,650 --> 00:40:30,419 by the time Hitler comes into power. 766 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,339 His usefulness is no longer there, 767 00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:35,674 and he's really, basically very much sidelined 768 00:40:35,675 --> 00:40:37,319 by the outbreak of war. 769 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,899 And it makes him very sort of desperate to, you know, 770 00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:41,249 curry favor with Hitler. 771 00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:44,399 And so he carries out this absolutely extraordinary mission. 772 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,299 Takes off from a Messerschmitt 110 in Augsburg, 773 00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:51,299 and flies to Scotland, obviously, 774 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,309 where he parachutes out to land 775 00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:55,199 on the land of the Duke of Hamilton, 776 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,509 who he thinks is a friend of his. 777 00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:59,879 And he says, you know, I'm here to basically, 778 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,692 you know, forge a peace deal. That, you know, if, you know, 779 00:41:02,693 --> 00:41:06,449 you allow Nazi Germany to have a free hand in Europe, 780 00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,849 we'll allow the British Empire 781 00:41:08,850 --> 00:41:10,619 and British colonies a free hand, 782 00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:12,029 and for Britain to maintain her influence 783 00:41:12,030 --> 00:41:13,319 all over the world. 784 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,539 And of course, this is just complete nonsense. 785 00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:18,539 You know, Churchill, by this stage, is in no, you know, 786 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:20,129 mood to start listening 787 00:41:20,130 --> 00:41:24,089 to what is clearly a semi-deranged individual. 788 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:27,179 And, indeed, he just remains in prison, 789 00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:29,699 you know, locked up until the end of the war. 790 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,249 And then he's put on trial at Nuremberg. 791 00:41:32,250 --> 00:41:34,019 And by then, he's gone mad. 792 00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:38,159 He seems very kind of withdrawn, troubled. 793 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,199 And he is sentenced at Nuremberg, 794 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,037 but he's not sentenced to death. 795 00:41:41,038 --> 00:41:43,559 And he actually lives in Spandau Prison 796 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,659 until his death many decades later 797 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:48,393 as this very kind of cryptic, enigmatic figure. 798 00:42:01,405 --> 00:42:02,759 Josef Mengele, 799 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,189 also known as the Angel of Death, 800 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:08,009 was a German Schutzstaffel, SS, officer 801 00:42:08,010 --> 00:42:10,083 and physician during World War II. 802 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:13,409 He is mainly remembered 803 00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:17,159 for his actions at the Auschwitz concentration camp, 804 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,339 where he performed deadly experiments on prisoners. 805 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,409 He was a member of the team of doctors 806 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:28,799 who selected victims to be killed in the gas chambers 807 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,743 and was one of the doctors who administered the gas. 808 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,809 A doctor, nicknamed the Angel of Death, 809 00:42:36,810 --> 00:42:39,569 conducted macabre experiments on the prisoners 810 00:42:39,570 --> 00:42:41,223 at the Auschwitz death camp. 811 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,419 He started as an SS officer, 812 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:48,629 was sent at the start of World War II to the Eastern Front, 813 00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:51,449 to repel the Soviets and received an Iron Cross 814 00:42:51,450 --> 00:42:52,533 for his bravery. 815 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,479 After being wounded and cleared unfit for active duty, 816 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,399 he was assigned to Auschwitz 817 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,829 and used prisoners as guinea pigs, 818 00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:05,429 particularly women, twins, and the disabled, 819 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:07,379 and tortured and killed children 820 00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:09,200 with his medical experiments. 821 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,899 After being wounded and cleared unfit for active duty, 822 00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:17,759 he was assigned to Auschwitz 823 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,039 and used prisoners as guinea pigs, 824 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,040 particularly women, twins, and people with disabilities 825 00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:27,299 and tortured and killed children 826 00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,690 with his medical experiments. 827 00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:35,159 It was Mengele's job to be one of those 828 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,949 who selected which prisoners 829 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:39,989 were to go straight to the gas chambers 830 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:42,029 when they arrived by train at Auschwitz, 831 00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:44,759 and which prisoners should be allowed to go and work 832 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,529 for a few months until they worked themselves, 833 00:43:46,530 --> 00:43:47,579 or for a few weeks, 834 00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:50,279 until they worked themselves to death. 835 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,699 But what he also did with his medical hat on 836 00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,309 was to experiment on twins. 837 00:43:56,310 --> 00:43:59,909 He was absolutely fascinated by twins 838 00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:03,539 from a kind of anthropological level, from a medical level. 839 00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:06,659 And what medics like with twins is 840 00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:09,629 that you have two people who are identical, 841 00:44:09,630 --> 00:44:13,349 and you can compare and contrast 842 00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:15,029 what happens to them medically. 843 00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:17,189 Now, ethically, you can't, you know, 844 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:21,059 in most normal societies, introduce one twin 845 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:24,179 to some disease and the other one not to receive it, 846 00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:25,619 and then to see how they do. 847 00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:27,269 You could do that in Auschwitz 848 00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:30,213 because Mengele had all these live human guinea pigs. 849 00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:36,169 But medical experiments took place 850 00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:40,319 at a number of the concentration camps across Germany, 851 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,799 including Dachau, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, 852 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,377 Natzweiler, and Ravensbruck. 853 00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:52,889 - We arrived to Auschwitz 854 00:44:52,890 --> 00:44:57,890 and there was some Jewish people came up the train. 855 00:44:57,930 --> 00:45:02,930 He said to us, whatever we do, don't say that we are sick. 856 00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:06,839 And we stand in the line. 857 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,829 And Mengele was sitting there, 858 00:45:10,830 --> 00:45:12,573 Dr. Mengele they called him. 859 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:18,980 And left, right, you know? 860 00:45:19,448 --> 00:45:24,448 They announced every young woman 861 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,679 should take the baby, 862 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,309 give the children to the elderly, to the mothers, 863 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:29,823 to the elderly people. 864 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,323 Then when we came in the line, you know, Mengele, 865 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:42,839 he said, in German he talked to us, if we are healthy, 866 00:45:44,730 --> 00:45:47,939 we are sick, or something is hurting us. 867 00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:51,234 He talk so nice, so soft, you know, things. 868 00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:06,659 - In my case, never ever talked to me. 869 00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:08,819 He talked about me. 870 00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:10,709 He talked at me. 871 00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:12,389 You have to realize, 872 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:17,069 Mengele did not treat us as human beings. 873 00:46:17,070 --> 00:46:21,967 We were just his treasured experiment subjects. 874 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,089 We would stand by our bunk beds 875 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:29,099 with our hands behind our back 876 00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,643 like little soldiers for Mengele's inspection. 877 00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:36,029 There was two, 878 00:46:36,030 --> 00:46:39,513 we had three supervisors in our barrack, Blockalteste. 879 00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:43,806 And one of them would stand at the front and say, 880 00:46:43,807 --> 00:46:46,526 "Mengele is coming." 881 00:46:46,527 --> 00:46:48,269 And everybody would just, 882 00:46:48,270 --> 00:46:52,709 it's like some kind of a horror was entering. 883 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:57,710 He would come very elegantly with his hands behind his back. 884 00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:59,249 He had a stick in his hand. 885 00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:02,189 He would hit it sometime against his riding boots 886 00:47:02,190 --> 00:47:03,363 and start counting. 887 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,289 He always had at least six people with him. 888 00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:09,136 Many times, as many as 8 or 10. 889 00:47:09,137 --> 00:47:10,994 It was a big entourage. 890 00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:17,309 He had power of life and death over, 891 00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:19,049 you know, hundreds of thousands of people. 892 00:47:19,050 --> 00:47:21,869 And he committed the most vile experiments, 893 00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:24,329 on twins and all sorts of other people. 894 00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:25,739 And so he knew at the end of the war 895 00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:27,599 that he would have to go into hiding, 896 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,986 because there would be people who had survived Auschwitz 897 00:47:28,987 --> 00:47:32,519 who would be giving testimony about his savagery 898 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,019 and his barbarism. 899 00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:37,079 And what he does, like so many other Nazi figures, 900 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,199 he disappears to a farm. 901 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,078 And where he ends up working, 902 00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:45,239 you know, along with sort of normal farm laborers, 903 00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,219 but it's clear he's a much more intellectual figure 904 00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:48,269 than those around him. 905 00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:51,389 They all know that he's, you know, got something to hide. 906 00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:55,199 And also what Mengele has is a very wealthy background 907 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,159 because the Mengele family produced farm machinery 908 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,319 in Southern Germany for decades. 909 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,299 And so, effectively, the family were millionaires. 910 00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:06,239 And so when Mengele decides to hotfoot it 911 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,279 to Argentina in 1949, 912 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,679 he's got the backing of a family fortune 913 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,023 to really help smooth his way over there. 914 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,339 What's really chilling about Mengele is that, 915 00:48:17,340 --> 00:48:19,139 throughout the rest of his life, 916 00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:23,159 he always would justify what he had done in Auschwitz. 917 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,039 He had always thought he had done the morally correct thing. 918 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,579 He would see his work on the selection ramps for starters, 919 00:48:29,580 --> 00:48:31,379 saying to people, you know, 920 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:33,299 well, you're gonna live and you're gonna die. 921 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,309 You know, we see that as sending people to their deaths. 922 00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:39,149 Mengele saw that as sending people to their continued life 923 00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:40,379 because he had this attitude 924 00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:42,209 that everybody there was gonna die anyway. 925 00:48:42,210 --> 00:48:44,369 So in fact, he was, you know, kind of delaying their deaths. 926 00:48:44,370 --> 00:48:45,959 He was being the nice guy. 927 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,950 You know, that's absurd. 928 00:48:46,951 --> 00:48:49,349 And he also would say that the experiments he did 929 00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:51,059 were for the good of humanity, 930 00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:52,109 that this was, 931 00:48:52,110 --> 00:48:56,763 an essential role of medicine was to experiment on people. 932 00:48:57,660 --> 00:48:59,609 It was ultimately beneficial. 933 00:48:59,610 --> 00:49:01,319 You know, he would come up with all sorts of 934 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,829 kind of pseudo-academic kind of verbiage 935 00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:06,722 to kind of justify what he had done. 936 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,409 It took a long time for the German people 937 00:49:10,410 --> 00:49:11,879 to really come to terms 938 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,439 with what had been done in their name. 939 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,262 I think a lot of German people throughout the war 940 00:49:15,263 --> 00:49:17,519 had had more than an inkling, 941 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,559 but I don't think they knew the extent 942 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,929 of the savagery of what went on, 943 00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:25,679 you know, behind those miles upon miles of barbed wire, 944 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,939 and inside those huts, 945 00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:30,299 and inside those chambers of death, effectively. 946 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:33,269 And I think that when it was finally revealed to them, 947 00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:36,839 and when, you know, justice started being done, 948 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,359 I think any reasonable German started realizing 949 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,200 that actually, yes, 950 00:49:40,201 --> 00:49:42,329 there should be some form of retribution. 951 00:49:42,330 --> 00:49:46,889 But I think also there was also a feeling, 952 00:49:46,890 --> 00:49:49,709 not just in Germany, but also amongst the Allies, 953 00:49:49,710 --> 00:49:52,829 that you couldn't spend decade upon decade 954 00:49:52,830 --> 00:49:55,589 carrying out tens of thousands of man hunts 955 00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:57,100 for all these people. 956 00:50:01,830 --> 00:50:03,029 What Nuremberg represents 957 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:05,609 to so many of these Nazis is a real reckoning 958 00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:08,729 that they never thought they were gonna receive. 959 00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:11,249 Maybe some of the smarter ones in the dying days of the war 960 00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:12,569 thought maybe, uh-oh. 961 00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:15,869 But actually the whole idea of the Reich was not meant 962 00:50:15,870 --> 00:50:16,830 to be a 12-year Reich. 963 00:50:16,831 --> 00:50:19,379 It was supposed to be a Thousand-Year Reich. 964 00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:20,999 And in fact, that what was gonna happen 965 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,419 is that people were gonna be treating them as demigods, 966 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:26,459 and statues would be erected 967 00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:28,439 and buildings enshrined to them, 968 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,479 you know, for hundreds of years, 969 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,359 not actually hanging from some grubby rope 970 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,159 in the prison courtyard in Nuremberg, 971 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,120 which is what happened to them. 972 00:50:36,121 --> 00:50:38,939 So they went from kind of being demigods 973 00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:41,403 to criminal lowlife very quickly. 974 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:46,739 The Nuremberg trials represented a very important, 975 00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:51,419 unprecedented moment and a way for the Allied powers really 976 00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:55,019 to bring to justice some of those key Nazi leaders 977 00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:58,259 as representatives of key Nazi organizations 978 00:50:58,260 --> 00:50:59,579 who had carried out 979 00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:03,089 such unspeakably cruel acts of war crimes, 980 00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:06,809 crimes against humanity, and crimes against the peace. 981 00:51:06,810 --> 00:51:08,466 It was very radical at the time. 982 00:51:08,467 --> 00:51:10,019 There had never been 983 00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:12,569 an international criminal court like it. 984 00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:14,819 And so this was a kind of coming together 985 00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:17,489 of a lot of different legal systems, 986 00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:19,679 a lot of different political systems. 987 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,839 But what it was saying to the world was, listen, 988 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,669 these people who commit war crimes, 989 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:25,619 these people who commit genocide, 990 00:51:25,620 --> 00:51:28,049 these people who commit crimes against humanity, 991 00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:31,743 they are never ever going to get away with it ever again. 78538

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