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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,959 --> 00:00:05,266 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:10,793 --> 00:00:13,709 - I never imagined that anyone in my family 3 00:00:13,796 --> 00:00:15,667 would be labeled a serial killer. 4 00:00:20,933 --> 00:00:24,807 - She's been living on that farm for 13 years. 5 00:00:24,937 --> 00:00:27,375 It wouldn't surprise me if there were others. 6 00:00:32,641 --> 00:00:34,382 - I said, my son is dead. 7 00:00:34,469 --> 00:00:36,340 My son is dead, isn't he? 8 00:00:36,471 --> 00:00:40,214 - It was jarring seeing that quantity of blood everywhere. 9 00:00:41,519 --> 00:00:44,044 [dramatic music] 10 00:00:47,786 --> 00:00:49,092 - Always kept notes. 11 00:00:49,179 --> 00:00:51,051 If I thought they were evil, I put evil. 12 00:00:52,356 --> 00:00:55,316 - She used her sex to lure men in. 13 00:00:55,403 --> 00:00:59,494 It's arousing, it's intoxicating, it's powerful. 14 00:00:59,581 --> 00:01:02,540 [dramatic music] 15 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:18,208 - The only way of dealing with her rage 16 00:01:18,339 --> 00:01:20,602 was to seek revenge. 17 00:01:25,476 --> 00:01:28,088 [dramatic music] 18 00:01:40,448 --> 00:01:43,538 [calm music] 19 00:01:43,668 --> 00:01:46,932 - Losing Kenny the way I lost him is unbearable. 20 00:01:47,019 --> 00:01:50,022 If you lose your child through a sickness, a car accident, 21 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:52,764 you know, that's tragic, but the way I lost Kenny? 22 00:01:54,418 --> 00:01:55,115 No. 23 00:02:07,475 --> 00:02:09,781 - I was the chief secretary. 24 00:02:09,868 --> 00:02:12,480 And when somebody would call, 25 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:15,961 they're calling the department, they're calling me. 26 00:02:16,048 --> 00:02:18,312 So, I'm the first line of fire. 27 00:02:20,662 --> 00:02:25,057 I received a phone call and this woman said, 28 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:27,016 I'm not sure really who to talk to. 29 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:32,413 - I said, I have a 24 year old son 30 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:37,157 that is learning disabled and he's missing. 31 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:43,163 - Carolyn sounded scared, of course, it's her son. 32 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:46,644 His age is 24, but he wasn't really 24. 33 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:50,996 - He couldn't read, he couldn't write, 34 00:02:51,127 --> 00:02:52,998 his social skills weren't there. 35 00:02:55,653 --> 00:02:59,396 I never made him feel as though that, that he had a problem 36 00:02:59,527 --> 00:03:02,399 because I wanted him to be like everybody else. 37 00:03:02,486 --> 00:03:04,880 [tense music] 38 00:03:11,713 --> 00:03:14,411 The roommate said that Kenny never came home, 39 00:03:14,542 --> 00:03:18,285 that he didn't take any of his clothing with him. 40 00:03:18,415 --> 00:03:20,896 And his vehicle was still parked outside. 41 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,205 I didn't know what to think, but I knew something was wrong. 42 00:03:29,861 --> 00:03:33,125 And then that night I got a phone call 43 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:35,519 and it was from Kenny. 44 00:03:35,606 --> 00:03:37,913 And he said, mom, I can't go home. 45 00:03:38,043 --> 00:03:41,090 And I heard, "Let me speak to her." 46 00:03:42,613 --> 00:03:44,093 And she grabbed the phone from Kenny 47 00:03:45,877 --> 00:03:49,141 and she said, ma'am, he's 24 years old. 48 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,883 Leave him the [beep] alone, we're [beep] happy. 49 00:03:53,276 --> 00:03:54,582 And she hung up. 50 00:03:55,931 --> 00:03:57,715 Imagine hearing this woman say this to you. 51 00:03:57,802 --> 00:03:59,935 And there's nothing as a mother you can do. 52 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:06,898 - She told me that he's supposedly 53 00:04:07,029 --> 00:04:08,944 in Epping with a Suzanne woman. 54 00:04:10,206 --> 00:04:11,555 And I go, Suzanne? 55 00:04:13,644 --> 00:04:17,387 She said that she was blonde, driving a Cadillac. 56 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:20,608 And the more that I spoke to her, 57 00:04:20,738 --> 00:04:22,262 the red flags were just going up. 58 00:04:24,089 --> 00:04:28,180 And I'm like, that's Sheila. 59 00:04:28,311 --> 00:04:30,792 [ominous music] 60 00:04:57,862 --> 00:05:01,170 - Sheila, she was born on the 4th of July. 61 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:05,217 And when she would have a little temper tantrum, 62 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,655 my dad would say, well there's that firecracker. 63 00:05:07,742 --> 00:05:10,310 [ominous music] 64 00:05:36,684 --> 00:05:38,729 - She had a very violent, 65 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:42,167 domineering father who both physically abused her 66 00:05:42,254 --> 00:05:44,605 and likely emotionally abusing her. 67 00:05:47,129 --> 00:05:51,786 - To the outside world, my daddy was fun to be around 68 00:05:51,873 --> 00:05:56,007 if you didn't know him, but he'd drink to excess. 69 00:05:56,094 --> 00:05:57,705 And he was mean when he was drinking. 70 00:05:59,054 --> 00:05:59,968 And it was... 71 00:06:00,055 --> 00:06:01,883 [dramatic music] 72 00:06:02,013 --> 00:06:04,364 [sniffling] 73 00:06:19,074 --> 00:06:23,731 - I was probably nine or 10 and Sheila 74 00:06:23,861 --> 00:06:26,342 who again is four years younger than me 75 00:06:26,473 --> 00:06:28,388 and our dad came home drunk. 76 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:46,101 - You could hear him rusting through the corn. 77 00:06:46,231 --> 00:06:47,755 And I just laid really still. 78 00:06:49,365 --> 00:06:52,020 Then I could hear him kicking something, screaming. 79 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:54,718 And I started crawling, whispering "Mother, mother." 80 00:07:00,637 --> 00:07:03,292 [dramatic music] 81 00:07:40,068 --> 00:07:45,160 - So, now, she's got the dilemma of loving her father. 82 00:07:45,247 --> 00:07:48,468 And part of the confusion was that hatred 83 00:07:49,817 --> 00:07:53,995 was also fused with love and sex. 84 00:07:55,953 --> 00:07:58,129 And what does this child do with that? 85 00:07:58,216 --> 00:08:01,872 I mean, there are all sorts of shame, guilt, rage, 86 00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:04,832 and to make it even worse, longing. 87 00:08:35,993 --> 00:08:38,518 [dramatic music] 88 00:08:52,836 --> 00:08:55,317 - I'm like, I kind of have a gut, 89 00:08:55,404 --> 00:08:58,233 just my feeling is because it was Sheila. 90 00:09:02,672 --> 00:09:07,677 - Sheila was very well known amongst all the officers. 91 00:09:07,808 --> 00:09:09,897 The Epping police department had been 92 00:09:09,984 --> 00:09:12,247 there on her property hundreds of times. 93 00:09:14,858 --> 00:09:18,993 It's a hundred plus acres of farmland, 94 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,648 but she was viewed as a nuisance caller. 95 00:09:21,778 --> 00:09:23,345 I would put it that way. 96 00:09:24,607 --> 00:09:28,393 - She's very intimidating and she's loud. 97 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,570 And she's gonna take over the conversation. 98 00:09:35,183 --> 00:09:38,142 So I said to Gallagher, 99 00:09:38,273 --> 00:09:40,928 is there any way that you can go to the farm 100 00:09:41,015 --> 00:09:44,366 just to look into the matter and see if Kenny's there? 101 00:09:44,453 --> 00:09:45,280 Her son. 102 00:09:48,065 --> 00:09:52,113 - We went to Sheila's residence, knocked on the door. 103 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,070 Sheila answered. 104 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:56,421 We asked if Kenneth Countie was there. 105 00:09:58,075 --> 00:10:00,382 Sheila was just like, you know, "Why are you here? 106 00:10:00,512 --> 00:10:02,297 This is ridiculous. 107 00:10:02,427 --> 00:10:04,255 He's here, but you can't talk to him." 108 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,521 We said, "We're just here to make sure that he's okay." 109 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:12,873 And eventually he came to the door. 110 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,049 He told us that he was fine 111 00:10:15,136 --> 00:10:17,442 and was there of his own free will. 112 00:10:21,142 --> 00:10:23,274 - I'm thinking to myself, okay, she's 47 years old. 113 00:10:23,361 --> 00:10:25,059 She's with a 24 year old man, 114 00:10:25,146 --> 00:10:27,975 the way that she spoke to me as a mother, 115 00:10:28,062 --> 00:10:29,846 I was determined to get my son. 116 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:32,632 [dramatic music] 117 00:10:51,433 --> 00:10:55,567 - He was in a store wheelchair. 118 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,005 He looked like he had been injured in some way. 119 00:11:00,137 --> 00:11:02,923 So we asked if he needed medical attention 120 00:11:03,010 --> 00:11:06,622 and he was just simply not talking to us. 121 00:11:06,709 --> 00:11:09,364 [dramatic music] 122 00:11:18,155 --> 00:11:21,245 - Sheila would call every day, almost. 123 00:11:21,332 --> 00:11:23,813 She would just be talking about anything and everything. 124 00:11:25,293 --> 00:11:27,774 So she called the department on the 23rd, 125 00:11:27,904 --> 00:11:29,863 it was about noontime. 126 00:11:29,950 --> 00:11:32,561 And I said, hey, how's that relationship going with Kenny? 127 00:11:34,215 --> 00:11:37,218 And she goes, oh, he left during the middle of the night. 128 00:11:37,305 --> 00:11:40,003 [dramatic music] 129 00:11:45,095 --> 00:11:47,576 [dramatic music] 130 00:11:52,842 --> 00:11:57,194 - I got a phone call that Sheila had called the department 131 00:11:57,281 --> 00:11:59,806 to say that Kenny left her in the night, that he was gone. 132 00:11:59,936 --> 00:12:02,417 [dramatic music] 133 00:12:10,991 --> 00:12:13,907 - So when we arrived at Sheila LaBarre's property, 134 00:12:14,037 --> 00:12:17,824 as we walked back, there was what appeared to be a mattress. 135 00:12:26,049 --> 00:12:29,792 And we noticed that the debris in the front yard 136 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:32,752 was the charred remains of a fire pit. 137 00:12:32,882 --> 00:12:36,016 But the main thing that we noticed was a piece of flesh. 138 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:40,847 And it had some bones sticking out 139 00:12:40,977 --> 00:12:43,980 of the piece of flesh on either side of it 140 00:12:44,067 --> 00:12:45,634 and it was pretty large. 141 00:12:48,811 --> 00:12:51,466 We may be looking at some type of a, 142 00:12:51,553 --> 00:12:54,774 a crime scene or some type of evidence destruction. 143 00:12:57,428 --> 00:13:00,954 And then we heard a woman's voice yelling at us. 144 00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:03,565 It was Sheila. 145 00:13:06,437 --> 00:13:09,005 We explained that we were trying to find Kenneth. 146 00:13:09,136 --> 00:13:11,138 She said, "Well, he's not here anymore." 147 00:13:11,225 --> 00:13:13,227 We asked if we could go inside and look around, 148 00:13:13,357 --> 00:13:16,491 make sure he wasn't there and she said, yes. 149 00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:26,980 The house was cluttered with belongings. 150 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:33,073 There were rabbits everywhere and the house smelled. 151 00:13:36,163 --> 00:13:37,904 After we finished looking around the house, 152 00:13:37,991 --> 00:13:39,166 we went back outside. 153 00:13:41,168 --> 00:13:43,257 I pointed to a bone in the fire pit 154 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:47,827 and I said, this piece of flesh in this bone, what is it? 155 00:13:47,957 --> 00:13:51,918 And she looked right at us and she just simply stated, 156 00:13:52,005 --> 00:13:54,834 "It's from a rabbit or a pedophile, I don't know." 157 00:13:57,010 --> 00:13:59,926 And at that point I said, "You just said 158 00:14:00,013 --> 00:14:03,277 it's from a pedophile, what do you mean?" 159 00:14:03,364 --> 00:14:04,582 And she said, "No, no, no, no. 160 00:14:04,713 --> 00:14:07,324 It's from a rabbit, that's what it is." 161 00:14:07,455 --> 00:14:10,545 And all of a sudden, Sheila threw us off the property. 162 00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:16,638 But I was going to apply for a search warrant 163 00:14:16,725 --> 00:14:19,467 because I believed that that was 164 00:14:19,597 --> 00:14:22,470 a piece of Kenneth Countie in that fire pit. 165 00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:25,212 [dramatic music] 166 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,429 - She didn't go through that ugly duckling stage, you know, 167 00:15:08,516 --> 00:15:10,648 she just went from a pretty little girl 168 00:15:10,779 --> 00:15:13,695 right into good looking young lady. 169 00:15:13,782 --> 00:15:17,003 She was very smart and talented. 170 00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:25,098 All the local high schools had a little beauty pageant. 171 00:15:25,185 --> 00:15:28,231 And whoever advanced from that would be 172 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:30,451 in a actual junior miss pageant. 173 00:15:32,192 --> 00:15:35,369 And one of Sheila's teachers had wanted her to enter. 174 00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:38,894 So Sheila did, and she got to read a poem. 175 00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:44,204 - Some of Sheila's poems that she had written 176 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:48,730 give us a window into a very troubled young woman. 177 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:55,737 Some men give treasures, some men give pleasures. 178 00:15:55,824 --> 00:15:58,696 Some men give nothing at all. 179 00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:03,049 Some men like daughters, some men like nieces, 180 00:16:03,136 --> 00:16:05,660 some men prefer broken pieces. 181 00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:09,403 She was a broken piece. 182 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:13,059 She was broken from early on. 183 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:29,118 - She knew how to dress, the seductive type dress. 184 00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:30,163 She could flaunt it. 185 00:16:31,294 --> 00:16:32,252 She was very sexual. 186 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:35,081 Didn't hide the fact. 187 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:40,347 - This way Sheila could use her charm, 188 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:43,611 use her beauty, her sexual prowess 189 00:16:43,741 --> 00:16:47,397 to make these men do whatever she wanted them to do. 190 00:16:47,528 --> 00:16:50,357 And that's the type of relationship she wanted. 191 00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:58,669 - She really, and truly could read people 192 00:16:58,756 --> 00:17:01,498 and could figure out their weaknesses. 193 00:17:01,585 --> 00:17:05,937 And she just had that uncanny ability to use them, 194 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:09,115 befriend them, or destroy them. 195 00:17:09,245 --> 00:17:11,813 [dramatic music] 196 00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:32,051 - I got a phone call saying to me 197 00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:33,574 that we couldn't find Kenny. 198 00:17:34,879 --> 00:17:36,664 He was no where to be found. 199 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:41,408 I said, "My son is dead, my son is dead, isn't he?" 200 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,413 [dramatic music] 201 00:17:50,591 --> 00:17:53,507 - When we arrived to serve the search warrant, 202 00:17:53,637 --> 00:17:55,422 Sheila was a mess. 203 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:58,990 She had actually, when we arrived 204 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:02,429 been on her hands and knees in the fire pit, 205 00:18:03,473 --> 00:18:06,259 just sifting by hand through it. 206 00:18:07,999 --> 00:18:10,176 It was obvious at that point that she was probably 207 00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:11,873 trying to get rid of evidence. 208 00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:16,312 My initial fear that the large piece of flesh 209 00:18:16,443 --> 00:18:19,098 and bone would be gone was absolutely true. 210 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:21,535 It was gone. 211 00:19:07,407 --> 00:19:09,626 - We still had an incredible amount of the evidence 212 00:19:09,713 --> 00:19:12,673 to examine, but we didn't have enough 213 00:19:12,803 --> 00:19:17,025 at that point to arrest her. 214 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,114 Sheila LaBarre was free to go after 215 00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:22,161 that initial interview with the detectives. 216 00:19:22,248 --> 00:19:24,467 So she left. 217 00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:27,122 [dramatic music] 218 00:19:34,695 --> 00:19:37,872 [tense music] [birds chirping] 219 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:44,444 - Sheila was not in custody at this point. 220 00:19:44,574 --> 00:19:48,709 We were trying to find out exactly what we had. 221 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:53,931 I think some of the most damaging evidence 222 00:19:54,062 --> 00:19:55,803 was the sifting of the burn piles. 223 00:19:58,022 --> 00:20:00,373 We were regularly bringing buckets 224 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:04,812 full of bones and other ash to the anthropologist. 225 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:08,207 We located evidence within the home, 226 00:20:09,469 --> 00:20:11,819 including a knife, what they believed 227 00:20:11,949 --> 00:20:13,212 to be blood on the knife. 228 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:17,041 You could see blood spatter 229 00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:21,132 in the living room against the wall and in the kitchen. 230 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:23,787 Her bathroom downstairs, 231 00:20:23,918 --> 00:20:26,312 there were blood stains covered with dust. 232 00:20:26,399 --> 00:20:27,748 And then there was fresh blood. 233 00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:32,318 It was jarring, seeing that quantity of blood everywhere. 234 00:20:37,932 --> 00:20:40,413 [dramatic music] 235 00:20:59,475 --> 00:21:02,217 - As a young adult, Sheila wanted to be loved 236 00:21:03,610 --> 00:21:06,526 by somebody in a way that isn't hurtful. 237 00:21:06,656 --> 00:21:09,224 [dramatic music] 238 00:21:19,887 --> 00:21:22,716 Well, it was wonderful, you know, in the beginning. 239 00:21:36,556 --> 00:21:39,515 - It was just one fight after another. 240 00:21:39,646 --> 00:21:41,387 It was always a knock down brawl. 241 00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:45,042 - In a sense, that's a repetition 242 00:21:45,173 --> 00:21:48,568 of what she must have experienced as a kid. 243 00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:52,441 On some level she must have been saying, I don't get it. 244 00:21:52,528 --> 00:21:53,877 How can this be? 245 00:21:53,964 --> 00:21:57,838 This loving man is all of a sudden horrendous. 246 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,242 - She told me the story of in the coma. 247 00:22:55,635 --> 00:22:57,593 There were a lot of men around her bed 248 00:22:57,724 --> 00:23:00,248 with long white beards wearing white robes. 249 00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:03,860 They told her that she was an angel 250 00:23:03,947 --> 00:23:05,558 and she was being sent back to Earth. 251 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:16,177 - That's sort of a rebirth experience. 252 00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:19,485 She now lives as a new life 253 00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:24,185 with everything that she wants here on earth. 254 00:23:24,315 --> 00:23:27,493 Now she's powerful enough to protect herself. 255 00:23:41,115 --> 00:23:42,769 - And so she decided she was gonna have to, 256 00:23:42,899 --> 00:23:44,379 I guess, find new territory. 257 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:47,121 [dramatic music] 258 00:24:13,713 --> 00:24:16,237 - At this point, it was our burden to prove 259 00:24:16,324 --> 00:24:18,631 that the remains that we found 260 00:24:20,981 --> 00:24:23,157 was the remains of Ken Countie. 261 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:33,472 Sheila. 262 00:24:43,046 --> 00:24:47,703 My main focus was just to lock her into 263 00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:51,098 a statement of what happened to Ken Countie. 264 00:25:38,101 --> 00:25:40,756 - She was accusing Carolynn of being a pedophile. 265 00:25:40,887 --> 00:25:42,758 Same thing she was saying about Ken. 266 00:25:42,889 --> 00:25:44,630 She was saying that Ken was a pedophile. 267 00:25:44,717 --> 00:25:46,545 She was just making all this up. 268 00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:24,017 You killed that kid. 269 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:39,772 [dramatic music] 270 00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,130 [inquisitive music] 271 00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:11,934 - Even though on the tape, she says, "He's in that bag." 272 00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:14,633 Even though she tells the officers, 273 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,461 "I was burning rabbits or a pedophile," 274 00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:19,594 she just continued saying that 275 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:21,901 she had no idea where Ken was. 276 00:27:21,988 --> 00:27:23,119 - [Detective] Doesn't have to be a motel. 277 00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:24,817 You can stay wherever you'd like to stay. 278 00:27:28,777 --> 00:27:31,171 - She was not allowed to return to her home. 279 00:27:31,258 --> 00:27:32,825 There was a search warrant on that home. 280 00:27:32,955 --> 00:27:35,915 So she had to go elsewhere. 281 00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:39,179 Our next hurdle was to prove that 282 00:27:39,266 --> 00:27:42,748 Sheila LaBarre had murdered Ken Countie. 283 00:27:42,878 --> 00:27:45,533 [dramatic music] 284 00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:11,733 - In the beginning, she was just Sheila Bailey Jennings. 285 00:28:11,864 --> 00:28:14,040 She didn't become Sheila LaBarre until 286 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:15,694 she moved in with Dr. LaBarre. 287 00:28:17,217 --> 00:28:20,742 She was 27 years old, and she answered an ad 288 00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:24,311 that Dr. LaBarre had put in a magazine. 289 00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:28,358 He was about 57 years old, had his practice, 290 00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:31,318 he had the 115 acre farm. 291 00:28:31,448 --> 00:28:34,713 He had a lot of money, but he was incredibly lonely. 292 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,774 - She actually sent topless photographs of herself, 293 00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:56,735 and she used that to ensnare Dr. LaBarre. 294 00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:05,569 She used her sex to lure men in to get things from them. 295 00:29:23,065 --> 00:29:25,981 - She actually was able to convince him 296 00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:30,333 that he should change all the legal documents 297 00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:33,946 in his will so that she became the heir to everything. 298 00:29:35,425 --> 00:29:38,515 - She genuinely has a brief period 299 00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:41,518 of stability with, you know, 300 00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:45,522 somebody who is something of a father figure as it were. 301 00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:48,308 [dramatic music] 302 00:30:00,276 --> 00:30:01,974 And then he dies and the rug has been 303 00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:03,802 totally pulled out from underneath her. 304 00:30:15,683 --> 00:30:18,381 - All of this with him seemed to 305 00:30:18,512 --> 00:30:20,819 start triggering memories in me and fears 306 00:30:23,386 --> 00:30:25,214 and things traumatic. 307 00:30:25,301 --> 00:30:27,826 [dramatic music] 308 00:30:34,006 --> 00:30:35,921 - After Dr. LaBarre passed away, 309 00:30:36,008 --> 00:30:39,054 she started with the phone chats. 310 00:30:39,141 --> 00:30:42,318 And the first time I'd heard anything about pedophilia 311 00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:45,191 was when she said she was talking to a guy 312 00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:47,584 and she would ask questions 313 00:30:47,715 --> 00:30:53,068 and see if they were interested in kids. 314 00:30:53,199 --> 00:30:54,853 - Always kept notes usually when I talk 315 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,203 to these men on Telemates, I just jotted notes down. 316 00:30:58,552 --> 00:31:00,032 If I thought they were evil, I'd put evil. 317 00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:03,644 - And I said, "Why are you doing that?" 318 00:31:03,774 --> 00:31:06,952 And then this is where the conversation come about 319 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,649 from the white bearded men that 320 00:31:08,779 --> 00:31:12,566 she was sent back to Earth to venge pedophilia. 321 00:31:15,177 --> 00:31:18,224 - She's saying, "I came back from God. 322 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:22,619 He sent me back as an angel to kill pedophiles. 323 00:31:22,706 --> 00:31:24,752 All sex offenders must die." 324 00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,407 [dramatic music] 325 00:31:45,468 --> 00:31:47,862 - We had a large amount of personnel 326 00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:50,386 doing the search within the house. 327 00:31:50,473 --> 00:31:52,258 And then one of the detectives approached me 328 00:31:52,345 --> 00:31:54,695 and said that they found a bank statement 329 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:59,439 with the name of Michael Deloge with Sheila's address. 330 00:32:01,136 --> 00:32:04,096 We found an identification card of Michael Deloge 331 00:32:05,575 --> 00:32:08,100 and they started finding other documents 332 00:32:08,187 --> 00:32:10,102 with Michael Deloge's name. 333 00:32:10,189 --> 00:32:13,844 So now we don't know, who is Michael Deloge? 334 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:16,456 I kind of got a sick feeling in my stomach at that point. 335 00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:25,813 [dramatic music] 336 00:32:30,078 --> 00:32:31,862 - We didn't know if we would find more 337 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,864 bodies on the property or not. 338 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:35,649 There could have been more victims. 339 00:32:35,736 --> 00:32:38,304 [dramatic music] 340 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:48,967 I contacted his mother, asked if she's heard from him. 341 00:32:49,097 --> 00:32:52,405 She said, "No, I haven't heard from him from a very long time." 342 00:32:52,492 --> 00:32:54,755 And she was very concerned. 343 00:32:54,842 --> 00:32:59,064 The last time that she saw Mike was when 344 00:32:59,151 --> 00:33:03,329 he visited her with Sheila LaBarre, his new girlfriend. 345 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:56,469 - And she said that she was 346 00:33:56,556 --> 00:33:58,558 in fear for Mike because of Sheila. 347 00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:02,736 [dramatic music] 348 00:34:09,351 --> 00:34:11,745 An arrest warrant was issued for Sheila LaBarre 349 00:34:11,832 --> 00:34:13,616 but she had fled the area. 350 00:34:13,747 --> 00:34:16,402 [dramatic music] 351 00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:24,888 I was just about all set to go on America's Most Wanted 352 00:34:25,019 --> 00:34:27,021 at one point, when I was told 353 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:30,068 she was located and arrested by Revere Police Department. 354 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:36,117 A truck driver who had been 355 00:34:36,204 --> 00:34:39,555 watching the news, recognized her. 356 00:34:39,642 --> 00:34:42,863 She was a woman that he had driven into Massachusetts. 357 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:45,518 She said that she was an angel 358 00:34:45,605 --> 00:34:49,304 and that she was put on this Earth to hunt down 359 00:34:49,391 --> 00:34:52,002 and kill pedophiles. 360 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:54,440 [dramatic music] 361 00:35:22,424 --> 00:35:24,992 [dramatic music] 362 00:35:47,884 --> 00:35:50,844 - She picks up Michael Deloge knowing 363 00:35:50,931 --> 00:35:55,022 that he's a desperate, vulnerable human being. 364 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:58,504 He's homeless, nobody is taking care of him. 365 00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:04,162 And he thinks he's won the lottery. 366 00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:10,168 At this point, the men that she had relationships with 367 00:36:10,298 --> 00:36:14,694 were her means of getting revenge. 368 00:36:14,824 --> 00:36:17,349 Her means of expelling her hate. 369 00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:50,643 - She starts developing this persona 370 00:36:50,773 --> 00:36:53,080 of the revenging angel 371 00:36:54,734 --> 00:36:57,127 and the narrative becomes stronger in her mind 372 00:36:57,258 --> 00:36:58,390 as time goes on. 373 00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:45,132 [dramatic music] 374 00:37:54,924 --> 00:37:57,971 [tense music] [crickets chirping] 375 00:38:03,846 --> 00:38:06,153 - I'm not someone who planned any of this, 376 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:14,422 - Sheila could have chose many things, 377 00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:17,686 to assault Michael Deloge. 378 00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:20,820 She could have chose a club, a knife, a pair of scissors. 379 00:38:22,169 --> 00:38:24,650 [dramatic music] 380 00:38:37,837 --> 00:38:40,230 [dramatic music] 381 00:38:40,361 --> 00:38:44,713 - There's blood spatter on the walls that belongs to him. 382 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,977 So he clearly was stabbed at some point. 383 00:38:49,022 --> 00:38:51,024 She stabbed him to death 384 00:38:51,111 --> 00:38:52,678 and she dismembered him with a knife. 385 00:39:22,229 --> 00:39:24,884 [dramatic music] 386 00:39:35,068 --> 00:39:37,070 - Yeah, I think that Sheila, 387 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,681 if you take a look at the totality 388 00:39:39,768 --> 00:39:42,205 of what she had done to these people, 389 00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:46,035 she certainly fits the profile of a serial killer. 390 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:53,391 - We're pretty sure that Ken's the last one she killed. 391 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,393 But what happened before? 392 00:39:56,742 --> 00:40:00,093 Who knows how many victims are out there? 393 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:04,010 She's been living on that farm for 13 years. 394 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:06,534 It wouldn't surprise me if there were others. 395 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:11,496 - We did turn up the tailbones 396 00:40:11,626 --> 00:40:13,498 on the outskirts of the property 397 00:40:13,585 --> 00:40:16,370 that we have been unable to match 398 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,720 to any person at this stage. 399 00:40:18,807 --> 00:40:21,419 [dramatic music] 400 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,307 - Sheila absolutely would've 401 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:44,050 continued to kill in horrific ways. 402 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:46,139 And I think that's true of all serial killers. 403 00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:51,971 For Sheila, this is building up over the years 404 00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:54,103 to be sort of the avenging angel 405 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:58,412 that God sent to take care of pedophiles. 406 00:40:58,543 --> 00:40:59,457 Kill sex offenders. 407 00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:02,895 Does this have anything to do with your dad? 408 00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:04,157 Very likely it does. 409 00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:09,423 - Sheila was not able to escape her past. 410 00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:10,990 She was broken into pieces. 411 00:41:13,688 --> 00:41:16,125 There was never much that enabled her 412 00:41:16,256 --> 00:41:19,694 to put any of the pieces back together in a healthy way. 413 00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:24,046 The only way of dealing with her rage 414 00:41:24,177 --> 00:41:27,485 was ultimately to retaliate and seek revenge. 415 00:41:29,138 --> 00:41:31,445 - At some point, you move from just 416 00:41:31,576 --> 00:41:36,842 abusing these guys to finally saying, you know what? 417 00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:39,279 I have the right to kill them. 418 00:41:39,366 --> 00:41:41,586 And you cross that line. 419 00:41:41,716 --> 00:41:44,632 That line where you make your first kill, 420 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,331 it's arousing, it's intoxicating, it's powerful. 421 00:41:52,422 --> 00:41:54,816 You can't have more power than controlling 422 00:41:54,947 --> 00:41:57,166 whether somebody lives or dies. 423 00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,038 That is the ultimate power. 424 00:42:02,781 --> 00:42:06,524 - I never imagined that anyone in my family 425 00:42:06,611 --> 00:42:09,048 would be labeled a serial killer. 426 00:42:11,616 --> 00:42:15,707 Sheila was probably the most intelligent one of all of us. 427 00:42:15,794 --> 00:42:17,056 Beautiful girl. 428 00:42:17,143 --> 00:42:19,014 Funny, had it all. 429 00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:21,626 Never in a million years 430 00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:24,977 did I think that she would trade all of that 431 00:42:25,064 --> 00:42:28,067 for a small cell with a bunk 432 00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:30,504 where they don't even give you a pillow. 433 00:42:30,591 --> 00:42:33,202 [dramatic music] 434 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,036 - I had a son who was a loving, caring son 435 00:42:41,123 --> 00:42:45,040 and he trusted, trusted everybody. 436 00:42:45,127 --> 00:42:47,521 As much as you try to instill in him that 437 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:48,914 there are bad people out there, 438 00:42:49,001 --> 00:42:50,698 he never thought anybody was bad. 439 00:42:52,221 --> 00:42:55,311 Even though I know that in my heart and mind, 440 00:42:55,442 --> 00:42:58,097 he's gone, I still wait for that day, 441 00:42:59,794 --> 00:43:01,579 he comes home. 32154

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