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- I never imagined that
anyone in my family
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would be labeled
a serial killer.
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- She's been living on
that farm for 13 years.
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It wouldn't surprise me
if there were others.
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- I said, my son is dead.
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My son is dead, isn't he?
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- It was jarring seeing that
quantity of blood everywhere.
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- Always kept notes.
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If I thought they
were evil, I put evil.
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- She used her sex
to lure men in.
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It's arousing, it's
intoxicating, it's powerful.
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- The only way of dealing
with her rage
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was to seek revenge.
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[calm music]
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- Losing Kenny the way I
lost him is unbearable.
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If you lose your child through
a sickness, a car accident,
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you know, that's tragic,
but the way I lost Kenny?
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No.
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- I was the chief secretary.
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And when somebody would call,
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they're calling the
department, they're calling me.
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So, I'm the first line of fire.
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I received a phone call
and this woman said,
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I'm not sure really
who to talk to.
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- I said, I have
a 24 year old son
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that is learning disabled
and he's missing.
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- Carolyn sounded scared,
of course, it's her son.
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His age is 24, but
he wasn't really 24.
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- He couldn't read,
he couldn't write,
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his social skills weren't there.
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I never made him feel as though
that, that he had a problem
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because I wanted him to
be like everybody else.
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The roommate said that
Kenny never came home,
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that he didn't take any
of his clothing with him.
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And his vehicle was
still parked outside.
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I didn't know what to think,
but I knew something was wrong.
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And then that night
I got a phone call
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and it was from Kenny.
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And he said, mom,
I can't go home.
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And I heard, "Let
me speak to her."
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And she grabbed the
phone from Kenny
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and she said, ma'am,
he's 24 years old.
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Leave him the [beep]
alone, we're [beep] happy.
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And she hung up.
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Imagine hearing this
woman say this to you.
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And there's nothing as
a mother you can do.
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- She told me that
he's supposedly
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in Epping with a Suzanne woman.
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And I go, Suzanne?
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She said that she was
blonde, driving a Cadillac.
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And the more that
I spoke to her,
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the red flags were
just going up.
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And I'm like, that's Sheila.
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- Sheila, she was born
on the 4th of July.
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And when she would have
a little temper tantrum,
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my dad would say, well
there's that firecracker.
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- She had a very violent,
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domineering father who
both physically abused her
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and likely emotionally
abusing her.
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- To the outside world, my
daddy was fun to be around
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if you didn't know him,
but he'd drink to excess.
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And he was mean when
he was drinking.
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And it was...
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[sniffling]
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- I was probably
nine or 10 and Sheila
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who again is four
years younger than me
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and our dad came home drunk.
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- You could hear him
rusting through the corn.
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And I just laid really still.
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Then I could hear him
kicking something, screaming.
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And I started crawling,
whispering "Mother, mother."
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- So, now, she's got the
dilemma of loving her father.
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And part of the
confusion was that hatred
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was also fused
with love and sex.
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And what does this
child do with that?
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I mean, there are all sorts
of shame, guilt, rage,
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and to make it even
worse, longing.
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- I'm like, I kind
of have a gut,
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just my feeling is
because it was Sheila.
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- Sheila was very well known
amongst all the officers.
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The Epping police
department had been
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there on her property
hundreds of times.
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It's a hundred plus
acres of farmland,
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but she was viewed
as a nuisance caller.
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I would put it that way.
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- She's very intimidating
and she's loud.
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And she's gonna take
over the conversation.
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So I said to Gallagher,
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is there any way that
you can go to the farm
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just to look into the matter
and see if Kenny's there?
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Her son.
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- We went to Sheila's
residence, knocked on the door.
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Sheila answered.
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We asked if Kenneth
Countie was there.
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Sheila was just like, you
know, "Why are you here?
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This is ridiculous.
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He's here, but you
can't talk to him."
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We said, "We're just here to
make sure that he's okay."
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And eventually he
came to the door.
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He told us that he was fine
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and was there of
his own free will.
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- I'm thinking to myself,
okay, she's 47 years old.
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She's with a 24 year old man,
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the way that she spoke
to me as a mother,
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I was determined to get my son.
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- He was in a store wheelchair.
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He looked like he had
been injured in some way.
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So we asked if he
needed medical attention
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and he was just simply
not talking to us.
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- Sheila would call
every day, almost.
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She would just be talking
about anything and everything.
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So she called the
department on the 23rd,
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it was about noontime.
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And I said, hey, how's that
relationship going with Kenny?
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And she goes, oh, he left
during the middle of the night.
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- I got a phone call that Sheila
had called the department
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to say that Kenny left her in
the night, that he was gone.
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- So when we arrived at
Sheila LaBarre's property,
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as we walked back, there was
what appeared to be a mattress.
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And we noticed that the
debris in the front yard
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was the charred
remains of a fire pit.
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But the main thing that we
noticed was a piece of flesh.
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And it had some
bones sticking out
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of the piece of flesh
on either side of it
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and it was pretty large.
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We may be looking
at some type of a,
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a crime scene or some type
of evidence destruction.
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And then we heard a woman's
voice yelling at us.
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It was Sheila.
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We explained that we were
trying to find Kenneth.
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She said, "Well, he's
not here anymore."
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We asked if we could go
inside and look around,
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make sure he wasn't
there and she said, yes.
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The house was cluttered
with belongings.
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There were rabbits everywhere
and the house smelled.
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After we finished
looking around the house,
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we went back outside.
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I pointed to a bone
in the fire pit
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and I said, this piece of
flesh in this bone, what is it?
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And she looked right at us
and she just simply stated,
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"It's from a rabbit or a
pedophile, I don't know."
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And at that point I
said, "You just said
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it's from a pedophile,
what do you mean?"
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And she said, "No, no, no, no.
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It's from a rabbit,
that's what it is."
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And all of a sudden, Sheila
threw us off the property.
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But I was going to apply
for a search warrant
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because I believed that that was
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a piece of Kenneth
Countie in that fire pit.
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- She didn't go through that
ugly duckling stage, you know,
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she just went from
a pretty little girl
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right into good
looking young lady.
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She was very smart and talented.
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All the local high schools
had a little beauty pageant.
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And whoever advanced
from that would be
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in a actual junior miss pageant.
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And one of Sheila's teachers
had wanted her to enter.
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So Sheila did, and she
got to read a poem.
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- Some of Sheila's poems
that she had written
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give us a window into a
very troubled young woman.
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Some men give treasures,
some men give pleasures.
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Some men give nothing at all.
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Some men like daughters,
some men like nieces,
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some men prefer broken pieces.
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She was a broken piece.
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She was broken from early on.
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- She knew how to dress,
the seductive type dress.
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She could flaunt it.
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She was very sexual.
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Didn't hide the fact.
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- This way Sheila
could use her charm,
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use her beauty,
her sexual prowess
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to make these men do whatever
she wanted them to do.
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And that's the type of
relationship she wanted.
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- She really, and
truly could read people
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and could figure out
their weaknesses.
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And she just had that
uncanny ability to use them,
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befriend them, or destroy them.
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- I got a phone
call saying to me
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that we couldn't find Kenny.
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He was no where to be found.
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I said, "My son is dead,
my son is dead, isn't he?"
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- When we arrived to
serve the search warrant,
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Sheila was a mess.
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She had actually,
when we arrived
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been on her hands and
knees in the fire pit,
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just sifting by hand through it.
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It was obvious at that
point that she was probably
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trying to get rid of evidence.
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My initial fear that
the large piece of flesh
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and bone would be gone
was absolutely true.
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It was gone.
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- We still had an incredible
amount of the evidence
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to examine, but we
didn't have enough
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at that point to arrest her.
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Sheila LaBarre was
free to go after
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that initial interview
with the detectives.
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So she left.
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[tense music]
[birds chirping]
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- Sheila was not in
custody at this point.
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We were trying to find
out exactly what we had.
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I think some of the
most damaging evidence
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was the sifting
of the burn piles.
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We were regularly
bringing buckets
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full of bones and other
ash to the anthropologist.
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We located evidence
within the home,
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including a knife,
what they believed
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to be blood on the knife.
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You could see blood spatter
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in the living room against
the wall and in the kitchen.
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Her bathroom downstairs,
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there were blood stains
covered with dust.
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And then there was fresh blood.
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It was jarring, seeing that
quantity of blood everywhere.
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- As a young adult,
Sheila wanted to be loved
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by somebody in a way
that isn't hurtful.
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Well, it was wonderful,
you know, in the beginning.
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- It was just one
fight after another.
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It was always a
knock down brawl.
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- In a sense,
that's a repetition
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of what she must have
experienced as a kid.
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On some level she must have
been saying, I don't get it.
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How can this be?
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This loving man is all
of a sudden horrendous.
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- She told me the
story of in the coma.
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There were a lot of
men around her bed
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with long white beards
wearing white robes.
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They told her that
she was an angel
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and she was being
sent back to Earth.
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- That's sort of a
rebirth experience.
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She now lives as a new life
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with everything that
she wants here on earth.
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Now she's powerful enough
to protect herself.
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- And so she decided
she was gonna have to,
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I guess, find new territory.
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[dramatic music]
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- At this point, it
was our burden to prove
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that the remains that we found
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was the remains of Ken Countie.
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Sheila.
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My main focus was
just to lock her into
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a statement of what
happened to Ken Countie.
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- She was accusing Carolynn
of being a pedophile.
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Same thing she was
saying about Ken.
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She was saying that
Ken was a pedophile.
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She was just making all this up.
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You killed that kid.
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[dramatic music]
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[inquisitive music]
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- Even though on the tape,
she says, "He's in that bag."
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Even though she
tells the officers,
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"I was burning rabbits
or a pedophile,"
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she just continued saying that
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she had no idea where Ken was.
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- [Detective] Doesn't
have to be a motel.
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You can stay wherever
you'd like to stay.
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- She was not allowed
to return to her home.
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There was a search
warrant on that home.
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So she had to go elsewhere.
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Our next hurdle
was to prove that
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Sheila LaBarre had
murdered Ken Countie.
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[dramatic music]
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- In the beginning, she was
just Sheila Bailey Jennings.
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She didn't become
Sheila LaBarre until
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she moved in with Dr. LaBarre.
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She was 27 years old,
and she answered an ad
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that Dr. LaBarre had
put in a magazine.
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He was about 57 years
old, had his practice,
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he had the 115 acre farm.
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He had a lot of money, but
he was incredibly lonely.
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- She actually sent topless
photographs of herself,
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and she used that to
ensnare Dr. LaBarre.
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She used her sex to lure men
in to get things from them.
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- She actually was
able to convince him
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that he should change
all the legal documents
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in his will so that she became
the heir to everything.
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- She genuinely
has a brief period
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of stability with, you know,
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somebody who is something of
a father figure as it were.
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[dramatic music]
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And then he dies
and the rug has been
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totally pulled out
from underneath her.
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- All of this with him seemed to
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start triggering
memories in me and fears
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and things traumatic.
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[dramatic music]
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- After Dr. LaBarre passed away,
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she started with
the phone chats.
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And the first time I'd heard
anything about pedophilia
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was when she said she
was talking to a guy
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and she would ask questions
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and see if they were
interested in kids.
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- Always kept notes
usually when I talk
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to these men on Telemates,
I just jotted notes down.
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If I thought they were
evil, I'd put evil.
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- And I said, "Why
are you doing that?"
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And then this is where the
conversation come about
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from the white bearded men that
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she was sent back to
Earth to venge pedophilia.
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- She's saying, "I
came back from God.
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He sent me back as an
angel to kill pedophiles.
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All sex offenders must die."
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[dramatic music]
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- We had a large
amount of personnel
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doing the search
within the house.
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And then one of the
detectives approached me
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and said that they
found a bank statement
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with the name of Michael
Deloge with Sheila's address.
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We found an identification
card of Michael Deloge
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and they started
finding other documents
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with Michael Deloge's name.
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So now we don't know,
who is Michael Deloge?
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I kind of got a sick feeling
in my stomach at that point.
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[dramatic music]
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- We didn't know if
we would find more
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bodies on the property or not.
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There could have
been more victims.
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[dramatic music]
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I contacted his mother, asked
if she's heard from him.
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She said, "No, I haven't heard
from him from a very long time."
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And she was very concerned.
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The last time that
she saw Mike was when
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he visited her with Sheila
LaBarre, his new girlfriend.
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- And she said that she was
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in fear for Mike
because of Sheila.
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[dramatic music]
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An arrest warrant was
issued for Sheila LaBarre
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but she had fled the area.
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[dramatic music]
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I was just about all set to
go on America's Most Wanted
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at one point, when I was told
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she was located and arrested
by Revere Police Department.
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A truck driver who had been
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watching the news,
recognized her.
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She was a woman that he had
driven into Massachusetts.
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She said that she was an angel
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and that she was put on
this Earth to hunt down
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and kill pedophiles.
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[dramatic music]
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[dramatic music]
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- She picks up
Michael Deloge knowing
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that he's a desperate,
vulnerable human being.
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He's homeless, nobody
is taking care of him.
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And he thinks he's
won the lottery.
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At this point, the men that
she had relationships with
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were her means of
getting revenge.
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Her means of expelling her hate.
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- She starts
developing this persona
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of the revenging angel
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and the narrative becomes
stronger in her mind
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as time goes on.
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[dramatic music]
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[tense music]
[crickets chirping]
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- I'm not someone who
planned any of this,
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- Sheila could have
chose many things,
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to assault Michael Deloge.
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She could have chose a club,
a knife, a pair of scissors.
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[dramatic music]
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[dramatic music]
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- There's blood spatter on
the walls that belongs to him.
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So he clearly was
stabbed at some point.
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She stabbed him to death
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and she dismembered
him with a knife.
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[dramatic music]
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- Yeah, I think that Sheila,
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if you take a look
at the totality
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of what she had done
to these people,
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she certainly fits the
profile of a serial killer.
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- We're pretty sure that
Ken's the last one she killed.
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But what happened before?
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Who knows how many
victims are out there?
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She's been living on
that farm for 13 years.
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It wouldn't surprise me
if there were others.
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- We did turn up the tailbones
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on the outskirts of the property
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that we have been
unable to match
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to any person at this stage.
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[dramatic music]
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- Sheila absolutely would've
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continued to kill
in horrific ways.
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And I think that's true
of all serial killers.
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For Sheila, this is
building up over the years
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to be sort of the avenging angel
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that God sent to take
care of pedophiles.
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Kill sex offenders.
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00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:02,895
Does this have anything
to do with your dad?
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Very likely it does.
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00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:09,423
- Sheila was not able
to escape her past.
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She was broken into pieces.
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There was never much
that enabled her
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to put any of the pieces back
together in a healthy way.
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The only way of
dealing with her rage
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was ultimately to
retaliate and seek revenge.
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- At some point,
you move from just
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abusing these guys to finally
saying, you know what?
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I have the right to kill them.
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And you cross that line.
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That line where you
make your first kill,
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it's arousing, it's
intoxicating, it's powerful.
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You can't have more
power than controlling
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whether somebody lives or dies.
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That is the ultimate power.
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- I never imagined that
anyone in my family
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would be labeled
a serial killer.
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Sheila was probably the most
intelligent one of all of us.
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00:42:15,794 --> 00:42:17,056
Beautiful girl.
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Funny, had it all.
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Never in a million years
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did I think that she
would trade all of that
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for a small cell with a bunk
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where they don't even
give you a pillow.
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00:42:30,591 --> 00:42:33,202
[dramatic music]
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- I had a son who was
a loving, caring son
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and he trusted,
trusted everybody.
436
00:42:45,127 --> 00:42:47,521
As much as you try to
instill in him that
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there are bad people out there,
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he never thought
anybody was bad.
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00:42:52,221 --> 00:42:55,311
Even though I know that
in my heart and mind,
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he's gone, I still
wait for that day,
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he comes home.
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