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It was sadistic. 9 00:00:40,475 --> 00:00:42,477 And it had the hallmarks of, 10 00:00:42,564 --> 00:00:44,348 "That it was gonna happen again." 11 00:00:49,136 --> 00:00:50,528 [siren wailing] 12 00:00:50,659 --> 00:00:52,748 - We were like running from crime scene to crime scene. 13 00:00:55,490 --> 00:01:00,277 Another homicide, again, knife wounds. 14 00:01:00,408 --> 00:01:01,931 - He had a problem, sticking knives in people. 15 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:03,237 He liked it. 16 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:13,725 - I didn't intend to start out living a life of crime. 17 00:01:13,812 --> 00:01:16,032 - He was a peeping Tom, 18 00:01:16,119 --> 00:01:18,861 and then he began to become a serial rapist. 19 00:01:18,991 --> 00:01:22,430 His appetite couldn't be sated. 20 00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:25,259 [thrilling music] 21 00:01:36,487 --> 00:01:38,968 [gentle music] 22 00:01:46,410 --> 00:01:48,934 sec of south Shreveport. 23 00:01:49,065 --> 00:01:51,589 Middle income, low crime area. 24 00:02:00,946 --> 00:02:04,341 - A neighbor noticed the newspapers were piling up 25 00:02:04,472 --> 00:02:07,257 in the driveway at the house across the street. 26 00:02:10,173 --> 00:02:12,132 And the cars hadn't seemed to move. 27 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:17,093 So the neighbor curious about potentially 28 00:02:17,180 --> 00:02:19,095 something being wrong, 29 00:02:19,182 --> 00:02:21,402 went over and looked through the window, 30 00:02:21,489 --> 00:02:23,447 and what he saw shocked him. 31 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:27,625 There was a pool of blood on the living room floor. 32 00:02:30,237 --> 00:02:31,977 [siren wailing] 33 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:34,241 - [Police] Okay, we'll looking around. 34 00:02:34,328 --> 00:02:37,679 - When detectives first walked through the door, 35 00:02:37,766 --> 00:02:40,812 it's just an absolutely horrific scene. 36 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:48,690 [foreboding music] 37 00:03:02,443 --> 00:03:04,053 In the living room, 38 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:06,838 they find eight year old, Sean Grissom. 39 00:03:08,318 --> 00:03:10,842 He's in a position that looks like his hands 40 00:03:10,973 --> 00:03:13,280 were behind his back, at some point. 41 00:03:27,685 --> 00:03:31,646 - Moving on, they find Tom Grissom in the utility room, 42 00:03:31,776 --> 00:03:33,213 lying on his stomach. 43 00:03:35,084 --> 00:03:38,043 He's got an stab wound to the lower back. 44 00:03:40,481 --> 00:03:43,310 They move down the hallway to the back bedroom 45 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,878 and they find Julie Grissom lying on the bed. 46 00:03:48,315 --> 00:03:52,144 And she has a number of stab wounds to the back. 47 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:54,059 But she's lying on her back. 48 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:37,102 [foreboding music] 49 00:04:58,254 --> 00:05:02,389 - Danny Rolling's father, James, was a police officer. 50 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:06,175 And Danny told me that his father at times was his hero. 51 00:05:06,262 --> 00:05:10,745 But at the same time, he was "A cold hearted bastard." 52 00:05:12,573 --> 00:05:15,532 - Dad had to have control over every aspect 53 00:05:15,663 --> 00:05:16,316 of our life. 54 00:05:16,403 --> 00:05:18,535 Every thought, every... 55 00:05:18,666 --> 00:05:22,191 We weren't allowed to have an individuality 56 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:23,192 in the Rolling home. 57 00:05:27,501 --> 00:05:28,589 - When his father came home 58 00:05:28,676 --> 00:05:31,374 and took off that police uniform, 59 00:05:31,461 --> 00:05:34,725 he expected to have dinner on the table, 60 00:05:34,856 --> 00:05:38,338 and for everybody else to just let him alone. 61 00:05:40,862 --> 00:05:44,518 - Danny was always trying to make his father happy, 62 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:46,215 but he never could. 63 00:05:49,131 --> 00:05:50,915 - One of the things that we learned 64 00:05:51,046 --> 00:05:53,353 in just basic psychology 65 00:05:53,483 --> 00:05:56,486 is when you don't get the reinforcement 66 00:05:56,573 --> 00:05:58,923 from something positive, 67 00:05:59,054 --> 00:06:01,273 individuals, and Danny was one of them, 68 00:06:01,404 --> 00:06:03,145 would start engaging in behavior 69 00:06:03,275 --> 00:06:05,713 that he'd get attention for, 70 00:06:05,843 --> 00:06:07,845 but it was not positive attention. 71 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:14,504 - He would act out. Cause a scene. 72 00:06:14,591 --> 00:06:17,159 It got to the point he couldn't go anywhere. 73 00:06:31,739 --> 00:06:34,655 - Danny said his father was very unpredictable. 74 00:06:40,225 --> 00:06:42,314 - Danny got a puppy one time. 75 00:06:42,402 --> 00:06:43,664 I think he just found it. 76 00:06:45,361 --> 00:06:46,493 He went to school. 77 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:48,408 I think it was when he came in that afternoon, 78 00:06:50,148 --> 00:06:52,673 he ran out in the backyard and he asked his daddy, 79 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,065 "Where's my puppy?" 80 00:06:55,632 --> 00:06:58,461 And his father walks up and showed him a hole in ground. 81 00:06:58,548 --> 00:06:59,419 He killed it. 82 00:07:03,248 --> 00:07:06,251 Whatever Danny had at that time to make Danny happy, 83 00:07:06,382 --> 00:07:07,905 Mr. Rolling would destroy it. 84 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:14,695 - And so we have Danny always fearing when his father 85 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:16,784 or how his father is gonna react. 86 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:22,267 [tense music] 87 00:07:32,147 --> 00:07:34,454 - I show up to the crime scene, it's all taped off. 88 00:07:35,977 --> 00:07:38,196 And came to find out pretty quickly 89 00:07:38,327 --> 00:07:39,981 that there were three victims, 90 00:07:41,548 --> 00:07:42,636 and it was a whole family. 91 00:07:46,378 --> 00:07:47,771 The father is 55. 92 00:07:47,858 --> 00:07:49,164 He was an AT&T worker. 93 00:07:50,513 --> 00:07:51,906 By everybody's standard, 94 00:07:52,036 --> 00:07:55,083 a good neighbor and a good dad, and one of those guys. 95 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:58,216 Sean Grissom was a student at local 96 00:07:58,303 --> 00:08:00,654 neighborhood school here. 97 00:08:00,784 --> 00:08:04,396 Just spending the weekend with the grandparents. 98 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:06,486 Julie Grissom was at the time 24, 99 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:08,923 LSU Shreveport student, 100 00:08:09,053 --> 00:08:12,143 and was working at Dillard's, which is the retail outlet. 101 00:08:15,582 --> 00:08:18,454 - Julie and I had been painting for a year 102 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,500 and six weeks or so. 103 00:08:22,284 --> 00:08:24,721 I used to love to just hear her talk. 104 00:08:24,808 --> 00:08:26,941 She had an almost childlike voice. 105 00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:30,814 It was really, really soft. Everything was soft about her. 106 00:08:30,945 --> 00:08:34,209 She didn't wear flashy clothes, 107 00:08:34,296 --> 00:08:37,821 and she was working on completing her marketing degree. 108 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,867 Life was good. 109 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:46,613 I'm at my law practice in Shreveport, 110 00:08:46,743 --> 00:08:51,574 and my legal secretary said she just saw a news bulletin 111 00:08:52,270 --> 00:08:55,186 on the television that Julie and her father 112 00:08:55,317 --> 00:08:57,188 and nephew's bodies had been found. 113 00:09:02,106 --> 00:09:04,848 [foreboding music] 114 00:09:10,462 --> 00:09:13,074 [siren wailing] 115 00:09:14,945 --> 00:09:17,557 - Detectives, when they are examining this crime scene, 116 00:09:17,687 --> 00:09:19,515 they're clearly examining the bodies. 117 00:09:19,646 --> 00:09:23,388 Sean, the eight year old is fully clothed. 118 00:09:23,475 --> 00:09:27,436 Tom Grissom is also fully clothed. 119 00:09:27,523 --> 00:09:30,744 But Julie Grissom is nude, 120 00:09:30,831 --> 00:09:34,182 and her clothes have been cut off and removed from her. 121 00:09:34,269 --> 00:09:37,228 It looks like Julie is the target of this case. 122 00:09:45,802 --> 00:09:48,849 - They also noticed tape residue on Julie. 123 00:09:50,546 --> 00:09:55,116 At some point, both of her wrists were bound together 124 00:09:55,246 --> 00:09:57,684 and there was duct tape over her mouth. 125 00:09:57,814 --> 00:10:02,123 So whoever did this has taken the tape with them. 126 00:10:13,569 --> 00:10:15,310 - When you see an offender like this, 127 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,182 who is engaging in sexual assault, 128 00:10:18,313 --> 00:10:23,144 and then has a very definite ritualized behavior 129 00:10:24,145 --> 00:10:26,538 in essentially the posing of the victim, 130 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:29,803 I'm seeing a sexual sadist. 131 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:34,416 And those kinds of offenders are very dangerous 132 00:10:34,503 --> 00:10:37,593 because they engage in a lot of planning 133 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:39,464 and are forensically astute. 134 00:10:55,916 --> 00:10:57,657 [siren wailing] 135 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,318 - This is not your everyday murder. 136 00:11:07,405 --> 00:11:09,886 A triple homicide involving a child, 137 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:12,759 and you have a sexual homicide as well. 138 00:11:12,846 --> 00:11:16,371 So you've got in a really egregious crime here. 139 00:11:18,982 --> 00:11:20,941 - The target was Julie Grissom. 140 00:11:21,028 --> 00:11:23,508 So we just didn't know the details. 141 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:25,728 Investigators, they were very tight-lipped about everything. 142 00:11:25,815 --> 00:11:27,861 So all the reporters go, 143 00:11:27,948 --> 00:11:30,994 boyfriend, ex-lover, domestic dispute. 144 00:11:33,518 --> 00:11:35,520 We all know Julie's boyfriend, 145 00:11:35,607 --> 00:11:38,393 kind of a high profile local attorney named Hal Carter. 146 00:11:43,572 --> 00:11:46,227 - There was a gathering of neighbors 147 00:11:46,357 --> 00:11:49,230 and relatives across the street. 148 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,581 And I said, "I need to go." 149 00:11:55,932 --> 00:11:57,629 - There's an uncanny ability for criminals 150 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,762 to show up at the scene of a crime, right? 151 00:11:59,893 --> 00:12:02,156 So we're standing out at the crime scene 152 00:12:02,243 --> 00:12:05,420 and we see this car slow rolling down the street, 153 00:12:05,507 --> 00:12:06,421 and it's Hal Carter. 154 00:12:10,338 --> 00:12:13,733 - I saw a detective come out of the front door 155 00:12:13,863 --> 00:12:16,561 and I waved him over and I said, 156 00:12:16,648 --> 00:12:19,216 "I dated Julie Grissom for over a year, 157 00:12:19,347 --> 00:12:22,437 and I wanna do everything I can 158 00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:25,266 to help y'all find her killer." 159 00:12:25,353 --> 00:12:26,746 They gave me a strange look. 160 00:12:31,054 --> 00:12:34,754 And he said, "We will be in touch." 161 00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:39,802 - The minute he rolled onto the scene, 162 00:12:39,889 --> 00:12:42,631 the entire city basically convicted him. 163 00:12:45,286 --> 00:12:46,678 Of course we found out later, 164 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:48,289 he had nothing to do with anything. 165 00:12:55,165 --> 00:12:57,951 [foreboding music] 166 00:13:16,012 --> 00:13:19,102 - [Danny] Home was not a safe place for me. 167 00:13:19,189 --> 00:13:24,934 The night, it held a place where I could go 168 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:26,806 and I could feel at ease. 169 00:13:31,854 --> 00:13:33,551 - When he was about nine years old, 170 00:13:33,682 --> 00:13:36,337 Danny started roaming the streets 171 00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:39,470 to get away from the home. 172 00:13:41,298 --> 00:13:43,953 He started looking in windows 173 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:49,698 and saw a family of four eating dinner together, 174 00:13:51,352 --> 00:13:54,834 and started to fantasize that he was inside 175 00:13:56,357 --> 00:14:00,187 just to become part of someone else's family. 176 00:14:02,276 --> 00:14:06,541 - He was always looking for somewhere to feel welcome, 177 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:10,893 because he acted so strange. 178 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:13,026 He didn't know how to act around normal people. 179 00:14:19,554 --> 00:14:23,210 - One night, he happened to come across a house 180 00:14:23,297 --> 00:14:25,908 where he observed a female that had just come out 181 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,301 of a shower. 182 00:14:27,388 --> 00:14:30,391 That was the first time that he got some sexual 183 00:14:30,478 --> 00:14:32,219 gratification and aroused. 184 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:39,052 He went back to that same house, I believe the next night, 185 00:14:40,531 --> 00:14:43,056 because it was so exciting to him. 186 00:14:43,143 --> 00:14:47,495 And then this became the pattern after that. 187 00:14:47,582 --> 00:14:49,540 He is clearly progressing 188 00:14:49,627 --> 00:14:53,240 going from one relatively benign event 189 00:14:55,111 --> 00:14:58,071 to the beginnings of becoming a sex offender. 190 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:09,082 [thrilling music] 191 00:15:14,435 --> 00:15:20,049 - There was a knock on the door and it was two detectives. 192 00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:21,659 They said, "We need to question you 193 00:15:21,746 --> 00:15:23,400 about the Grissom murders." 194 00:15:25,185 --> 00:15:28,231 I did get scared because I knew they were looking at me 195 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:29,798 as the prime suspect. 196 00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:34,934 But the night of the murders I was in Atlanta, Georgia. 197 00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:42,419 - He gets alibied out because he's out of state. 198 00:15:42,506 --> 00:15:44,030 So they're very careful, 199 00:15:44,117 --> 00:15:46,119 but also very quick to rule out the boyfriend. 200 00:15:50,775 --> 00:15:52,081 - It gets more difficult. 201 00:15:52,212 --> 00:15:54,257 The more time goes by, the more difficult it gets. 202 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,741 I think the correct word is anxious. 203 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:02,265 We felt anxious and worry 204 00:16:04,485 --> 00:16:05,921 that this was gonna happen to someone else 205 00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:06,966 before we could catch him. 206 00:16:08,837 --> 00:16:10,970 - There was definitely a palpable sense of fear 207 00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:15,322 because it wasn't normal, it was sadistic. 208 00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:17,541 And it had the hallmarks of, 209 00:16:17,628 --> 00:16:19,326 "That it was gonna happen again." 210 00:16:30,641 --> 00:16:32,165 - It's a year later, 211 00:16:33,949 --> 00:16:37,257 the Shreveport murders still don't really have any suspects. 212 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:41,087 And when you have a sexual sadist who is murdering, 213 00:16:41,174 --> 00:16:45,134 this is not typically an offender who does this once 214 00:16:45,221 --> 00:16:46,657 and then stops. 215 00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:59,322 - Gainesville, Florida is home to the University of Florida, 216 00:16:59,409 --> 00:17:01,585 and the entire town just 217 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:04,023 flourishes around the University. 218 00:17:06,938 --> 00:17:09,419 In late August, every year, it's just filled with excitement 219 00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:12,205 around the beginning of the school year. 220 00:17:12,335 --> 00:17:14,642 Students, they're 17, 18, 19 years old, 221 00:17:14,729 --> 00:17:17,384 and they're on their own for the first time. 222 00:17:27,437 --> 00:17:29,787 Christina was supposed to call her parents, 223 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,833 and then they hadn't heard from her 224 00:17:31,963 --> 00:17:33,487 and they got concerned, 225 00:17:33,574 --> 00:17:35,315 eventually called a well check. 226 00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:38,057 Would somebody go by and would see what's going on? 227 00:17:39,754 --> 00:17:42,061 The police officer enters the apartment, 228 00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:47,936 and there he is met with an incredible site. 229 00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:52,158 The body of Christina Powell, 230 00:17:52,245 --> 00:17:56,075 she had been stabbed in the back multiple times. 231 00:17:58,816 --> 00:18:03,430 And then they went upstairs and found Sonja stabbed. 232 00:18:03,517 --> 00:18:06,911 The first wound was to the upper part of her torso. 233 00:18:07,042 --> 00:18:08,565 And there were a couple of others. 234 00:18:08,652 --> 00:18:10,611 All frontal stabs. 235 00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:13,875 - The offender removed the clothing from both of them 236 00:18:14,005 --> 00:18:17,574 and then he posed Sonja Larson and Christina Powell 237 00:18:17,705 --> 00:18:19,402 in provocative positions. 238 00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:26,670 - This was a crime scene with a real purpose. 239 00:18:26,801 --> 00:18:30,196 We believe it was designed to shock anybody 240 00:18:30,283 --> 00:18:31,458 that walked into it. 241 00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:36,985 [foreboding music] 242 00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:59,834 - I believe that down deep, the happiest Danny ever was, 243 00:18:59,921 --> 00:19:03,011 was when he got married and had a family. 244 00:19:14,501 --> 00:19:17,156 He had a job, he had it all. 245 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:22,465 His life was gonna be different from there on out, 246 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:27,340 but it couldn't last. 247 00:19:32,127 --> 00:19:34,999 [foreboding music] 248 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:45,053 She goes, "Danny is not who everybody thinks he is." 249 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,187 I'm like, "What are you talking about? Danny's, Danny. 250 00:19:49,666 --> 00:19:52,713 She goes, "No, Danny's beginning to scare me." 251 00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:56,412 She had to wear what he said to wear. 252 00:19:56,543 --> 00:19:58,719 She had something new, he would destroy it. 253 00:20:00,982 --> 00:20:03,332 He turned into his father, literally. 254 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:08,729 [foreboding music] 255 00:20:10,731 --> 00:20:12,689 That was it. She took the baby and left. 256 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,084 - Danny refused to accept responsibility 257 00:20:16,171 --> 00:20:17,564 for his negative behavior. 258 00:20:19,261 --> 00:20:22,003 It was all somebody else's fault, 259 00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:24,919 either his wife's or society. 260 00:20:25,006 --> 00:20:28,401 And when I talked to him about why he was such 261 00:20:28,488 --> 00:20:31,404 an angry person, he blamed her as well. 262 00:20:33,014 --> 00:20:37,366 - And eventually, this leads to a very strong 263 00:20:37,453 --> 00:20:39,020 disdain for women, 264 00:20:39,107 --> 00:20:41,892 and the need to be in control. 265 00:20:41,979 --> 00:20:44,417 And for Danny, it's all about control. 266 00:20:47,637 --> 00:20:50,423 [foreboding music] 267 00:21:00,128 --> 00:21:01,129 - [Reporter 3] The authorities discovered 268 00:21:01,216 --> 00:21:03,218 the mutilated bodies of two female roommates, 269 00:21:03,349 --> 00:21:04,785 18 year old, Sonja Larson, 270 00:21:04,915 --> 00:21:06,700 and 17 year old, Christina Powell, 271 00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:09,311 were first year students who lived off campus. 272 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:11,574 Police say both girls had been savagely attacked. 273 00:21:14,316 --> 00:21:19,582 - I was moving into my own dorm at college, 274 00:21:19,713 --> 00:21:20,801 and the next thing I know, 275 00:21:20,888 --> 00:21:23,804 I was being summoned to a professor's apartment. 276 00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:25,980 And I got there and my mom was sitting there, 277 00:21:27,895 --> 00:21:29,288 and then I laid eyes on her, 278 00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:30,289 I knew something was wrong, 279 00:21:30,419 --> 00:21:33,204 and she could barely get the words out. 280 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:37,165 But what she said was, "Honey, it's Christie." 281 00:21:40,951 --> 00:21:43,171 Christie was the life of the party. 282 00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:44,303 She loved to dance. 283 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,435 Christie was an amazing dancer, 284 00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:50,700 just a dynamo full of power, 285 00:21:50,831 --> 00:21:52,963 and just a really strong personality. 286 00:21:54,487 --> 00:21:56,402 Christie wanted to be an architect. 287 00:21:56,489 --> 00:21:58,186 She loved to sketch and draw. 288 00:21:58,273 --> 00:21:59,840 She took drafting classes. 289 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,669 At 17, that was kind of the direction 290 00:22:02,756 --> 00:22:03,844 she thought she was headed. 291 00:22:05,628 --> 00:22:08,283 Christie's roommate was Sonja. 292 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:10,329 I never met Sonja, but I remember Christie telling me 293 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:14,594 that Sonja was quiet, studious, 294 00:22:14,724 --> 00:22:16,857 and that she thought she would make a great roommate. 295 00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:21,427 - These were wonderful kids, 296 00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:25,344 and their futures looked like they were unlimited. 297 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:29,652 [thrilling music] 298 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:37,138 - One of the first things that investigators know 299 00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:41,708 is that this apartment backs up to a wooded area. 300 00:22:43,579 --> 00:22:46,234 - The perpetrator could have hidden himself in the woods. 301 00:22:48,497 --> 00:22:52,632 - This guy has probably been surveilling them 302 00:22:52,719 --> 00:22:54,373 and peeping through the windows. 303 00:22:57,071 --> 00:22:58,594 In the apartment, 304 00:22:58,725 --> 00:23:02,468 Christina Powell is laid out on the floor 305 00:23:02,555 --> 00:23:06,559 with her arms over her head and her hair fanned out. 306 00:23:08,343 --> 00:23:11,346 - She was sexually assaulted and there was a gummy substance 307 00:23:11,477 --> 00:23:13,261 that was on her wrists. 308 00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:17,221 And after closely examining it, 309 00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:19,746 it was duct tape that had been applied, 310 00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:23,358 and uniquely after it had served its purpose, 311 00:23:23,489 --> 00:23:25,578 had been cut and removed. 312 00:23:30,887 --> 00:23:33,542 - The fact that they see sexual assault 313 00:23:35,196 --> 00:23:38,460 and you have the other victim also posed, 314 00:23:38,547 --> 00:23:41,594 suggests somebody with a very rich fantasy life. 315 00:23:45,946 --> 00:23:49,776 And somebody like that, is very likely not to stop. 316 00:23:57,610 --> 00:24:00,569 - The next day as the crime scene was even being cleared, 317 00:24:00,656 --> 00:24:01,875 notifications coming out 318 00:24:01,962 --> 00:24:03,354 there's another crime scene. 319 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,747 - [Reporter 3] Early this morning, 320 00:24:04,878 --> 00:24:07,750 the body of another victim is pulled out of her apartment. 321 00:24:07,837 --> 00:24:11,711 - Another homicide, again, another female. 322 00:24:11,798 --> 00:24:16,280 So there's someone out there that has a specific intention. 323 00:24:17,717 --> 00:24:18,631 Preying on women. 324 00:24:20,328 --> 00:24:23,331 It became clear that we had a serial killer on the loose. 325 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,166 [thrilling music] 326 00:24:37,867 --> 00:24:40,696 - Less than a day after the bodies of Sonja Larson 327 00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:42,916 and Christina Powell are discovered, 328 00:24:43,046 --> 00:24:46,354 another young woman is found dead in her apartment. 329 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:58,714 - It was clear that Christa had been killed with a knife 330 00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:01,369 and that there had been sexual assault. 331 00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:07,201 - She had been eviscerated and decapitated. 332 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:10,770 - He had posed her. 333 00:25:10,857 --> 00:25:13,076 Her decapitated head was set up 334 00:25:13,163 --> 00:25:14,817 so that when you open the front door, 335 00:25:14,904 --> 00:25:15,992 that's what greeted you. 336 00:25:18,081 --> 00:25:21,694 They're all horrible, but that crime scene was unspeakable. 337 00:25:25,741 --> 00:25:28,527 [thrilling music] 338 00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:37,666 - As the Gainesville community is just beginning to process 339 00:25:37,797 --> 00:25:39,233 these three murders, 340 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:42,889 another homicide scene is discovered. 341 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,981 With two victims, 342 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:50,723 Manuel Taboada and Tracy Paules. 343 00:25:56,206 --> 00:25:58,600 - Tracy Paules was sexually assaulted. 344 00:25:58,687 --> 00:26:01,124 Again, knife wounds. 345 00:26:01,211 --> 00:26:04,127 Manuel Taboada was found in his bedroom 346 00:26:04,258 --> 00:26:08,741 and he had been stabbed many, many times. 347 00:26:08,828 --> 00:26:11,482 These three crime scenes all happened 348 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,223 within a span of three or four days. 349 00:26:17,358 --> 00:26:19,752 We were like running from crime scene to crime scene. 350 00:26:21,275 --> 00:26:22,581 - That was unbelievable. 351 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:23,930 That was when everybody said, 352 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,759 "Oh my Lord, what is going on? When will this end?" 353 00:26:32,155 --> 00:26:34,941 [foreboding music] 354 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:55,352 - After Danny's wife divorces him, 355 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:57,746 he committed robbery after robbery. 356 00:26:57,833 --> 00:26:59,879 He committed sexual assaults. 357 00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:02,316 He was imprisoned in three different states. 358 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,799 - I didn't intend to start out living a life of crime. 359 00:27:08,191 --> 00:27:09,845 But in the frame of mind I was in, I figured, 360 00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:14,415 "Okay, I'll just go. I'm just gonna rob." 361 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,156 And I ended up in prison. 362 00:27:18,027 --> 00:27:19,812 - That was another experience 363 00:27:19,899 --> 00:27:22,118 that certainly hardened him towards society. 364 00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:25,513 - And then when he gets out of prison, 365 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,821 Danny was kind of a loser and a drifter. 366 00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:33,260 - I think his things weren't changing. 367 00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:36,567 And as he felt he had little control over his life, 368 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,482 he turns to fantasy 369 00:27:40,093 --> 00:27:43,183 just like when he was about nine years old. 370 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:47,796 But this time, he is fantasizing about raping women, 371 00:27:47,883 --> 00:27:52,845 forcing them to have sex with him, and also being sadistic. 372 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:57,763 - For sexual sadists, 373 00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:59,808 a lot of the arousal 374 00:27:59,895 --> 00:28:04,030 comes from essentially terrorizing their victims. 375 00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,560 - I didn't see Danny for at least 10 years. 376 00:28:14,997 --> 00:28:17,826 I was cooking supper one night and Danny shows up, 377 00:28:20,176 --> 00:28:23,702 but he weren't the Danny I knew before. 378 00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:28,228 He looked like Rambo in the army fatigues, 379 00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:31,405 and he was in the back throwing a knife into a tree. 380 00:28:34,321 --> 00:28:37,063 And so my husband, Steve, 381 00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:38,847 stepped outside and was talking to him. 382 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,503 And Danny says, "Steve, I have a problem." 383 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:44,418 I like to stick knives in people. 384 00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:47,943 Steven came in, he goes, 385 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:53,209 "Cindy, this guy's, what's wrong with this guy?" 386 00:28:58,127 --> 00:29:00,913 [foreboding music] 387 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,278 - The person described as a maniac, 388 00:29:18,365 --> 00:29:20,846 apparently, a serial killer is paralyzing 389 00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:22,891 a Florida college community. 390 00:29:23,022 --> 00:29:25,764 The victims were painfully young and savagely killed, 391 00:29:25,851 --> 00:29:27,853 but it is by no means over. 392 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:28,984 The killer still was out there. 393 00:29:29,071 --> 00:29:30,377 - I'm leaving. 394 00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:32,074 My parents are coming to get me and I'm going home. 395 00:29:32,161 --> 00:29:36,905 - Word of the crimes spread like wildfire. 396 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,647 - A serial killer responsible for the deaths 397 00:29:39,734 --> 00:29:41,301 of five young people. 398 00:29:41,388 --> 00:29:43,477 Killings have terrorized the campus. 399 00:29:43,564 --> 00:29:46,654 - It was a flurry unlike anything that's ever happened. 400 00:29:48,612 --> 00:29:52,442 - The entire central Florida area was gripped with fear. 401 00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,836 - Scariest thing is just waiting to see tomorrow morning 402 00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:56,795 if there's gonna be another report on the news. 403 00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:04,890 - For days, of course you were on edge, 404 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:06,805 When is the next one? When's the next one? 405 00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:11,200 - Is it gonna be Gainesville? 406 00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:14,595 Is it gonna be some other city? Has he moved on? 407 00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:16,292 You know that the clock is ticking. 408 00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:24,474 [thrilling music] 409 00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:36,225 We were looking for other crime scenes, 410 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:39,533 either within the state or on a national level 411 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:43,363 that had common signature similarities. 412 00:30:46,322 --> 00:30:47,454 One of the cities, 413 00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:50,718 it was identified was Shreveport, Louisiana. 414 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,204 - If somebody showed you the crime scene photos 415 00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:02,034 from Shreveport, you'd go, "I've seen this before." 416 00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:14,350 [foreboding music] 417 00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:27,276 - It's hard to describe what it feels like. 418 00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:28,887 Frustrating is a word. 419 00:31:46,774 --> 00:31:50,082 - When you focus on the target 420 00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:52,519 of the triple homicide in Shreveport, 421 00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:55,130 namely Julie Grissom, 422 00:31:55,261 --> 00:31:57,524 the way in manner in which she was killed, 423 00:31:57,611 --> 00:32:00,788 the binding of her hands with the duct tape and the removal, 424 00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:04,444 and in the shocking pose, 425 00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:07,099 all of that, at least on the surface appeared similar. 426 00:32:08,622 --> 00:32:10,363 But we needed something more than that. 427 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:13,627 We needed physical evidence to tie these together. 428 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,543 Our perpetrator in Gainesville, 429 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:18,110 there had a B blood type. 430 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,939 Specifically, he was a B secretor, 431 00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:23,463 which is a very small percentage of the population. 432 00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:28,381 Their perpetrator in Shreveport has a B blood type, 433 00:32:28,468 --> 00:32:29,948 and he's a secretor. 434 00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:36,389 I felt that whoever did Shrieveport 435 00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:39,044 in November 4th, in 1989, 436 00:32:39,131 --> 00:32:42,264 may be our perpetrator in Gainesville in August of 1990. 437 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:52,622 [foreboding music] 438 00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:57,584 [telephone ringing] 439 00:32:57,671 --> 00:32:59,020 - They would have these news breaks 440 00:32:59,151 --> 00:33:00,979 talking about the Gainesville murders. 441 00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:04,243 Another student got murdered. 442 00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:06,810 And I mean, it was just horrible. 443 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:10,771 And then they had a news flash. 444 00:33:10,858 --> 00:33:12,991 - [Reporter 3] It was one year ago in Shreveport, Louisiana, 445 00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:14,166 three people were murdered. 446 00:33:14,253 --> 00:33:16,559 Sources say the girl's body was mutilated 447 00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:18,866 in a manner similar to the murders in Gainesville. 448 00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:21,564 - And I looked at Steve and I said, 449 00:33:21,695 --> 00:33:26,308 "Steve, I guarantee you, that's Danny." 450 00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:30,965 When I started thinking about the things he said to us, 451 00:33:31,052 --> 00:33:34,012 the way he acted, the thing where he told Steve, 452 00:33:34,099 --> 00:33:37,015 "he had a problem sticking knives in people, he liked it," 453 00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:39,887 it wouldn't let me sleep. 454 00:33:41,932 --> 00:33:43,804 So I called down there and I said, 455 00:33:43,891 --> 00:33:45,980 "I hear y'all think there's a connection between 456 00:33:46,067 --> 00:33:48,026 Shreveport and Florida." 457 00:33:49,288 --> 00:33:50,593 And I said, 458 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,379 "I think there's someone you need to investigate." 459 00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,077 And they said, "Who?" 460 00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:59,559 - She said, "His name is Danny Rolling." 461 00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:05,608 We were able to find out that Danny Rolling, 462 00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:07,306 we had him in the Marion county jail 463 00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:09,047 for having committed a robbery 464 00:34:10,961 --> 00:34:14,617 just a few days after Manuel Taboada and Tracy Paules 465 00:34:14,748 --> 00:34:15,575 are both killed. 466 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:21,102 I grabbed another agent 467 00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:24,410 and went down to the Marion County Jail. 468 00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:35,160 I knew I was meeting the killer. 469 00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:36,422 I knew for sure it was him. 470 00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:46,649 - I asked him for his voluntary cooperation 471 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:48,564 to provide me with a blood sample, 472 00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:51,437 and he signed the form, and we walked out with his blood. 473 00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:55,789 - Guess what? He's a B secretor. 474 00:34:58,226 --> 00:35:01,099 - Now it's no longer just my suspicion. 475 00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:03,449 Here's our guy, Danny Harold Rolling. 476 00:35:10,586 --> 00:35:13,415 [foreboding music] 477 00:35:22,946 --> 00:35:27,603 - Danny told me about the three homicides in Louisiana. 478 00:35:30,693 --> 00:35:33,522 - So it appears that Danny saw Julie 479 00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:35,481 in the department store where she worked. 480 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,180 I think he tried to talk to her, 481 00:35:39,267 --> 00:35:42,662 and she sort of, in his mind, maybe blew him off. 482 00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:48,146 - Julie probably never even saw him. 483 00:35:50,104 --> 00:35:53,542 I think he just totally turned himself over 484 00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,848 to what was inside. 485 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,634 All the anger and hate. 486 00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:05,859 - Danny followed her home and surveilled the residence. 487 00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:07,426 It was the perfect location. 488 00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:09,167 It backed up to this wooded area. 489 00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:12,866 He watched Julie through the window. 490 00:36:17,044 --> 00:36:19,612 And her father, Tom, is outside barbecuing. 491 00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:22,397 So he's coming in and out of the residence, 492 00:36:22,484 --> 00:36:24,051 the door remains unlocked. 493 00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:29,404 - His plan was to rape her, make her suffer, 494 00:36:29,535 --> 00:36:31,798 and somehow put her through the same thing 495 00:36:31,885 --> 00:36:32,886 that he went through. 496 00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:39,153 - He knew that there were multiple people in this house, 497 00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:41,808 but for him, it was like, 498 00:36:41,895 --> 00:36:45,203 "I don't care. What I really want is Julie." 499 00:36:53,907 --> 00:36:55,387 [foreboding music] 500 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:12,882 - Danny had seen Julie and he followed her home. 501 00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:17,931 Whereas in Gainesville, Danny had planned his action. 502 00:37:19,149 --> 00:37:20,368 I think the first time, 503 00:37:20,499 --> 00:37:23,676 it was more of a spur of the moment kind of thing. 504 00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:25,460 - Danny is wearing a mask 505 00:37:25,591 --> 00:37:29,812 and he's got a large military knife. 506 00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:32,598 So he is a very terrifying character. 507 00:37:35,905 --> 00:37:39,213 He walks Tom, the 55 year old father 508 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,956 into the utility room and he stabs Tom in the back. 509 00:37:44,914 --> 00:37:47,830 He moves Julie to the bedroom 510 00:37:47,917 --> 00:37:52,139 and then he dispatches Sean, the eight year old. 511 00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,664 - I asked him years later, 512 00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:58,363 why did you feel a need to kill the father 513 00:37:58,450 --> 00:37:59,407 and the young child? 514 00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:00,234 And Danny told me, 515 00:38:00,321 --> 00:38:01,801 "'Cause they were in the way." 516 00:38:05,152 --> 00:38:07,328 - Now he was in the position that he wanted. 517 00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:10,288 He had Julie in the bedroom by herself. 518 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,596 - He cut off her clothes and her underwear, 519 00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:17,469 and that's when he sexually assaulted her. 520 00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:23,692 And he got some kind of gratification 521 00:38:23,823 --> 00:38:27,087 from being able to have her afraid of him 522 00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:31,396 rather than the usual that he was always intimidated 523 00:38:31,526 --> 00:38:32,484 by his father. 524 00:38:35,095 --> 00:38:39,099 - And then he basically rolled her onto her stomach 525 00:38:39,186 --> 00:38:41,188 and then stabs her in the back. 526 00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:54,984 He wasn't panicked. He was careful. 527 00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:58,553 Then you have to remember that he's a lifelong criminal, 528 00:38:58,684 --> 00:39:01,600 and he's a lifelong peeper and prowler. 529 00:39:01,687 --> 00:39:04,037 - He told me that he was proud of what he did. 530 00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,525 [foreboding music] 531 00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,331 - One week before trial, 532 00:39:37,462 --> 00:39:41,291 the judge called me over to say that Danny Rolling 533 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:42,554 wanted to enter a plea. 534 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:46,340 - I've been running from first one thing 535 00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:48,081 and then another all my life, 536 00:39:49,822 --> 00:39:53,913 but there are some things that you just can't run from. 537 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:08,493 - State witness. 538 00:40:08,623 --> 00:40:10,669 - Harry Krop, I'm a Clinical Psychologist 539 00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:13,106 licensed in the State of Florida. 540 00:40:13,193 --> 00:40:16,065 What I try and communicate to a jury 541 00:40:16,152 --> 00:40:20,374 is that a person isn't born a killer. 542 00:40:20,461 --> 00:40:24,117 So why did Danny Rolling do such horrific things? 543 00:40:25,858 --> 00:40:28,817 I think you have to look at all the psychological dynamics 544 00:40:28,948 --> 00:40:33,387 that go way back to when he was a child. 545 00:40:33,518 --> 00:40:35,694 He indicated the father would grab him by the hair, 546 00:40:35,781 --> 00:40:39,785 slam him against the wall, shove him around. 547 00:40:39,872 --> 00:40:42,657 We have the domestic violence. We have the emotional abuse. 548 00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:44,572 We have the neglect. 549 00:40:44,659 --> 00:40:47,793 The father clearly was a control freak. 550 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:53,712 - We know that things that happen in your young life 551 00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:58,151 come back and form part of your personality. 552 00:40:58,238 --> 00:41:00,719 - The sexual disorder is what we call voyeurism, 553 00:41:00,806 --> 00:41:02,677 and it's of a severe nature. 554 00:41:02,764 --> 00:41:06,464 It almost became a pulsion with him. 555 00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:09,989 And then of course Danny's failed marriage 556 00:41:10,076 --> 00:41:14,472 reinforced Danny's view that everybody is against him. 557 00:41:16,386 --> 00:41:18,301 - Danny met the textbook for progression. 558 00:41:18,388 --> 00:41:21,827 He started off as a peeing Tom, he then was a burglar, 559 00:41:21,914 --> 00:41:24,003 and then he began to become a serial rapist. 560 00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:28,747 His appetite couldn't be sated, 561 00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:33,012 until such time as he began to commit the murders. 562 00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:42,021 - Danny chose the most abject, horrible way 563 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:44,458 that these people could die. 564 00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:45,503 And he was fine with it, 565 00:41:47,592 --> 00:41:51,813 because it made Danny feel like he was the one in control. 566 00:42:00,169 --> 00:42:01,736 - [Man] It is ordered in a judge that the defendant, 567 00:42:01,823 --> 00:42:04,522 Danny Harold Rolling, is hereby sentence to death. 568 00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:14,401 - All of these crimes warranted the death penalty. 569 00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:15,533 It was that heinous. 570 00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:24,716 [foreboding music] 571 00:42:26,761 --> 00:42:28,284 - The reason it's important for me 572 00:42:28,371 --> 00:42:30,286 to continue to talk about Christie 573 00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:34,421 is because she was stolen from me, from us, 574 00:42:35,422 --> 00:42:36,597 from the world. 575 00:42:36,684 --> 00:42:38,338 She would've made the world a better place, 576 00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:39,731 and she didn't get an opportunity 577 00:42:39,818 --> 00:42:41,080 to see her 18th birthday. 578 00:42:45,258 --> 00:42:46,651 - If Julie had lived, 579 00:42:46,738 --> 00:42:47,956 I firmly believe that Julie and I 580 00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:53,092 would have ultimately married and had children. 581 00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:57,096 We would've had a normal life. 582 00:42:58,967 --> 00:42:59,925 I just miss Julie. 583 00:43:01,796 --> 00:43:02,580 I just miss Julie. 42881

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