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[foreboding music]
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- Danny Rolling shows the
most abject, horrible way
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that these people could die.
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[foreboding music continues]
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- A serial killer is paralyzing
a Florida college community.
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- [Reporter 1] Sources say
the girl's body was mutilated.
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- [Reporter 2] The killings
have terrorized the campus.
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- It wasn't normal.
It was sadistic.
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And it had the
hallmarks of,
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"That it was gonna
happen again."
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[siren wailing]
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- We were like running from
crime scene to crime scene.
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Another homicide,
again, knife wounds.
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- He had a problem, sticking
knives in people.
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He liked it.
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- I didn't intend to start
out living a life of crime.
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- He was a peeping Tom,
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and then he began to
become a serial rapist.
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His appetite couldn't be sated.
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[thrilling music]
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[gentle music]
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sec of
south Shreveport.
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Middle income, low crime area.
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- A neighbor noticed the
newspapers were piling up
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in the driveway at the
house across the street.
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And the cars hadn't
seemed to move.
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So the neighbor curious
about potentially
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something being wrong,
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went over and looked
through the window,
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and what he saw shocked him.
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There was a pool of blood
on the living room floor.
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[siren wailing]
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- [Police] Okay,
we'll looking around.
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- When detectives first
walked through the door,
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it's just an absolutely
horrific scene.
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[foreboding music]
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In the living room,
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they find eight year
old, Sean Grissom.
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He's in a position that
looks like his hands
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were behind his
back, at some point.
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- Moving on, they find Tom
Grissom in the utility room,
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lying on his stomach.
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He's got an stab wound
to the lower back.
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They move down the hallway
to the back bedroom
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and they find Julie
Grissom lying on the bed.
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And she has a number of
stab wounds to the back.
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But she's lying on her back.
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[foreboding music]
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- Danny Rolling's father,
James, was a police officer.
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And Danny told me that his
father at times was his hero.
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But at the same time, he was
"A cold hearted bastard."
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- Dad had to have
control over every aspect
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of our life.
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Every thought, every...
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We weren't allowed to
have an individuality
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in the Rolling home.
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- When his father came home
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and took off that
police uniform,
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he expected to have
dinner on the table,
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and for everybody else
to just let him alone.
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- Danny was always trying
to make his father happy,
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but he never could.
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- One of the things
that we learned
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in just basic psychology
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is when you don't
get the reinforcement
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from something positive,
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individuals, and
Danny was one of them,
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would start engaging in behavior
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that he'd get attention for,
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but it was not
positive attention.
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- He would act
out. Cause a scene.
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It got to the point
he couldn't go anywhere.
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- Danny said his father
was very unpredictable.
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- Danny got a puppy one time.
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I think he just found it.
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He went to school.
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I think it was when he
came in that afternoon,
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he ran out in the backyard
and he asked his daddy,
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"Where's my puppy?"
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And his father walks up and
showed him a hole in ground.
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He killed it.
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Whatever Danny had at that
time to make Danny happy,
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Mr. Rolling would destroy it.
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- And so we have Danny always
fearing when his father
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or how his father
is gonna react.
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[tense music]
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- I show up to the crime
scene, it's all taped off.
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And came to find
out pretty quickly
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that there were three victims,
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and it was a whole family.
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The father is 55.
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He was an AT&T worker.
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By everybody's standard,
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a good neighbor and a good
dad, and one of those guys.
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Sean Grissom was a
student at local
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neighborhood school here.
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Just spending the weekend
with the grandparents.
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Julie Grissom was
at the time 24,
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LSU Shreveport student,
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and was working at Dillard's,
which is the retail outlet.
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- Julie and I had been
painting for a year
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and six weeks or so.
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I used to love to
just hear her talk.
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She had an almost
childlike voice.
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It was really, really soft.
Everything was soft about her.
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She didn't wear flashy clothes,
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and she was working on
completing her marketing degree.
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Life was good.
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I'm at my law practice
in Shreveport,
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and my legal secretary said
she just saw a news bulletin
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on the television that
Julie and her father
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and nephew's bodies
had been found.
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[foreboding music]
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[siren wailing]
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- Detectives, when they are
examining this crime scene,
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they're clearly
examining the bodies.
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Sean, the eight year
old is fully clothed.
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Tom Grissom is
also fully clothed.
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But Julie Grissom is nude,
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and her clothes have been
cut off and removed from her.
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It looks like Julie is
the target of this case.
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- They also noticed
tape residue on Julie.
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At some point, both of her
wrists were bound together
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and there was duct
tape over her mouth.
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So whoever did this has
taken the tape with them.
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- When you see an
offender like this,
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who is engaging
in sexual assault,
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and then has a very
definite ritualized behavior
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in essentially the
posing of the victim,
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I'm seeing a sexual sadist.
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And those kinds of
offenders are very dangerous
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because they engage
in a lot of planning
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and are forensically astute.
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[siren wailing]
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- This is not your
everyday murder.
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A triple homicide
involving a child,
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and you have a sexual
homicide as well.
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So you've got in a really
egregious crime here.
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- The target
was Julie Grissom.
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So we just didn't
know the details.
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Investigators, they were very
tight-lipped about everything.
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So all the reporters go,
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boyfriend, ex-lover,
domestic dispute.
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We all know Julie's boyfriend,
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kind of a high profile local
attorney named Hal Carter.
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- There was a
gathering of neighbors
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and relatives across the street.
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And I said, "I need to go."
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- There's an uncanny
ability for criminals
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to show up at the scene
of a crime, right?
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So we're standing out
at the crime scene
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and we see this car slow
rolling down the street,
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and it's Hal Carter.
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- I saw a detective come
out of the front door
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and I waved him over and I said,
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"I dated Julie Grissom
for over a year,
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and I wanna do everything I can
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to help y'all find her killer."
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They gave me a strange look.
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And he said, "We will be
in touch."
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- The minute he
rolled onto the scene,
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the entire city
basically convicted him.
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Of course we found out later,
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he had nothing to
do with anything.
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[foreboding music]
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- [Danny] Home was not
a safe place for me.
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The night, it held a
place where I could go
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and I could feel at ease.
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- When he was about
nine years old,
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Danny started roaming
the streets
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to get away from the
home.
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He started looking in windows
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and saw a family of four
eating dinner together,
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and started to fantasize
that he was inside
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just to become part of
someone else's family.
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- He was always looking for
somewhere to feel welcome,
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because he acted so strange.
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He didn't know how to
act around normal people.
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- One night, he happened
to come across a house
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where he observed a female
that had just come out
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of a shower.
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That was the first time
that he got some sexual
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gratification and aroused.
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He went back to that same
house, I believe the next night,
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because it was so
exciting to him.
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And then this became
the pattern after that.
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He is
clearly progressing
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going from one
relatively benign event
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to the beginnings of
becoming a sex offender.
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[thrilling music]
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- There was a knock on the
door and it was two detectives.
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They said, "We need
to question you
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about the Grissom murders."
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I did get scared because I
knew they were looking at me
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as the prime suspect.
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But the night of the murders
I was in Atlanta, Georgia.
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- He gets alibied out
because he's out of state.
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So they're very careful,
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but also very quick to
rule out the boyfriend.
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- It gets more difficult.
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The more time goes by, the
more difficult it gets.
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I think the correct
word is anxious.
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We felt anxious and worry
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that this was gonna
happen to someone else
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before we could catch him.
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- There was definitely
a palpable sense of fear
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because it wasn't
normal, it was sadistic.
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And it had the hallmarks of,
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"That it was gonna
happen again."
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- It's a year later,
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the Shreveport murders still
don't really have any suspects.
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And when you have a sexual
sadist who is murdering,
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this is not typically an
offender who does this once
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and then stops.
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- Gainesville, Florida is home
to the University of Florida,
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and the entire town just
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flourishes around the
University.
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In late August, every year,
it's just filled with excitement
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around the beginning
of the school year.
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Students, they're
17, 18, 19 years old,
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and they're on their
own for the first time.
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Christina was supposed
to call her parents,
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and then they hadn't
heard from her
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and they got concerned,
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eventually called a well check.
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Would somebody go by and
would see what's going on?
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The police officer
enters the apartment,
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and there he is met
with an incredible site.
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The body of Christina Powell,
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she had been stabbed in
the back multiple times.
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And then they went upstairs
and found Sonja stabbed.
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The first wound was to the
upper part of her torso.
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And there were a
couple of others.
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All frontal stabs.
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- The offender removed the
clothing from both of them
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and then he posed Sonja
Larson and Christina Powell
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in provocative positions.
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- This was a crime scene
with a real purpose.
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We believe it was
designed to shock anybody
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that walked into it.
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[foreboding music]
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- I believe that down deep,
the happiest Danny ever was,
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was when he got married
and had a family.
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He had a job, he had it all.
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His life was gonna be
different from there on out,
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but it couldn't last.
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[foreboding music]
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She goes, "Danny is not who
everybody thinks he is."
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I'm like, "What are you
talking about? Danny's, Danny.
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She goes, "No, Danny's
beginning to scare me."
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She had to wear what
he said to wear.
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She had something new,
he would destroy it.
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He turned into his
father, literally.
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[foreboding music]
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That was it. She took
the baby and left.
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- Danny refused to
accept responsibility
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for his negative behavior.
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It was all somebody
else's fault,
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either his wife's or society.
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And when I talked to him
about why he was such
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an angry person, he
blamed her as well.
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- And eventually, this
leads to a very strong
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disdain for women,
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and the need to be in control.
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And for Danny, it's
all about control.
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[foreboding music]
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- [Reporter 3] The
authorities discovered
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the mutilated bodies of
two female roommates,
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18 year old, Sonja Larson,
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and 17 year old,
Christina Powell,
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were first year students
who lived off campus.
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Police say both girls had
been savagely attacked.
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- I was moving into my
own dorm at college,
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and the next thing I know,
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I was being summoned to
a professor's apartment.
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And I got there and my
mom was sitting there,
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and then I laid eyes on her,
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I knew something was wrong,
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and she could barely
get the words out.
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But what she said was,
"Honey, it's Christie."
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Christie was the
life of the party.
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She loved to dance.
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Christie was an amazing dancer,
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just a dynamo full of power,
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and just a really
strong personality.
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Christie wanted to
be an architect.
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She loved to sketch and draw.
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She took drafting classes.
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At 17, that was kind
of the direction
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she thought she was headed.
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Christie's roommate was Sonja.
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I never met Sonja, but I
remember Christie telling me
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that Sonja was quiet, studious,
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and that she thought she
would make a great roommate.
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- These were wonderful kids,
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and their futures looked
like they were unlimited.
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[thrilling music]
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- One of the first things
that investigators know
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is that this apartment
backs up to a wooded area.
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- The perpetrator could have
hidden himself in the woods.
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- This guy has probably
been surveilling them
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and peeping through the windows.
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In the apartment,
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Christina Powell is
laid out on the floor
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with her arms over her head
and her hair fanned out.
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- She was sexually assaulted
and there was a gummy substance
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that was on her wrists.
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And after closely examining it,
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it was duct tape that
had been applied,
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and uniquely after it
had served its purpose,
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had been cut and removed.
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- The fact that they
see sexual assault
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and you have the other
victim also posed,
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suggests somebody with a
very rich fantasy life.
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And somebody like that, is
very likely not to stop.
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- The next day as the crime
scene was even being cleared,
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notifications coming out
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there's another
crime scene.
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- [Reporter 3]
Early this morning,
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the body of another victim is
pulled out of her apartment.
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- Another homicide,
again, another female.
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So there's someone out there
that has a specific intention.
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Preying on women.
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It became clear that we had
a serial killer on the loose.
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[thrilling music]
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- Less than a day after
the bodies of Sonja Larson
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and Christina Powell
are discovered,
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another young woman is
found dead in her apartment.
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- It was clear that Christa
had been killed with a knife
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and that there had
been sexual assault.
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- She had been eviscerated
and decapitated.
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- He had posed her.
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Her decapitated head was set up
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so that when you
open the front door,
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that's what greeted you.
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They're all horrible, but that
crime scene was unspeakable.
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[thrilling music]
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- As the Gainesville community
is just beginning to process
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these three murders,
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another homicide
scene is discovered.
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With two victims,
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Manuel Taboada and Tracy Paules.
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- Tracy Paules was
sexually assaulted.
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Again, knife wounds.
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Manuel Taboada was
found in his bedroom
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and he had been stabbed
many, many times.
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These three crime
scenes all happened
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within a span of
three or four days.
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We were like running from
crime scene to crime scene.
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- That was unbelievable.
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That was when everybody said,
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"Oh my Lord, what is going
on? When will this end?"
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[foreboding music]
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- After Danny's
wife divorces him,
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he committed robbery
after robbery.
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He committed sexual assaults.
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He was imprisoned in
three different states.
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- I didn't intend to start
out living a life of crime.
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But in the frame of mind
I was in, I figured,
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00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:14,415
"Okay, I'll just go.
I'm just gonna rob."
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And I ended up in prison.
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- That was another experience
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that certainly hardened
him towards society.
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- And then when he
gets out of prison,
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Danny was kind of a
loser and a drifter.
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00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:33,260
- I think his things
weren't changing.
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And as he felt he had little
control over his life,
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he turns to fantasy
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just like when he was
about nine years old.
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But this time, he is
fantasizing about raping women,
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forcing them to have sex with
him, and also being sadistic.
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- For sexual sadists,
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a lot of the arousal
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comes from essentially
terrorizing their victims.
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- I didn't see Danny
for at least 10 years.
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I was cooking supper one
night and Danny shows up,
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but he weren't the
Danny I knew before.
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He looked like Rambo
in the army fatigues,
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and he was in the back
throwing a knife into a tree.
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And so my husband, Steve,
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00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:38,847
stepped outside and
was talking to him.
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And Danny says, "Steve,
I have a problem."
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I like to stick
knives in people.
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Steven came in, he goes,
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"Cindy, this guy's, what's
wrong with this guy?"
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[foreboding music]
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00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,278
- The person
described as a maniac,
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apparently, a serial
killer is paralyzing
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a Florida college community.
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The victims were painfully
young and savagely killed,
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00:29:25,851 --> 00:29:27,853
but it is by no means over.
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The killer still was out there.
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00:29:29,071 --> 00:29:30,377
- I'm leaving.
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00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:32,074
My parents are coming to
get me and I'm going home.
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00:29:32,161 --> 00:29:36,905
- Word of the crimes
spread like wildfire.
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- A serial killer
responsible for the deaths
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of five young people.
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Killings have
terrorized the campus.
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- It was a flurry unlike
anything that's ever happened.
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00:29:48,612 --> 00:29:52,442
- The entire central Florida
area was gripped with fear.
401
00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,836
- Scariest thing is just
waiting to see tomorrow morning
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00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:56,795
if there's gonna be
another report on the news.
403
00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:04,890
- For days, of course
you were on edge,
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00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:06,805
When is the next one?
When's the next one?
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00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:11,200
- Is it gonna be Gainesville?
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00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:14,595
Is it gonna be some other
city? Has he moved on?
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00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:16,292
You know that the
clock is ticking.
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00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:24,474
[thrilling music]
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00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:36,225
We were looking for
other crime scenes,
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00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:39,533
either within the state
or on a national level
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00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:43,363
that had common
signature similarities.
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00:30:46,322 --> 00:30:47,454
One of the cities,
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00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:50,718
it was identified was
Shreveport, Louisiana.
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00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,204
- If somebody showed you
the crime scene photos
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00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:02,034
from Shreveport, you'd go,
"I've seen this before."
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00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:14,350
[foreboding music]
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00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:27,276
- It's hard to describe
what it feels like.
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00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:28,887
Frustrating is a word.
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00:31:46,774 --> 00:31:50,082
- When you focus on the target
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00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:52,519
of the triple homicide
in Shreveport,
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00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:55,130
namely Julie Grissom,
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00:31:55,261 --> 00:31:57,524
the way in manner in
which she was killed,
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00:31:57,611 --> 00:32:00,788
the binding of her hands with
the duct tape and the removal,
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00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:04,444
and in the shocking pose,
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00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:07,099
all of that, at least on the
surface appeared similar.
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00:32:08,622 --> 00:32:10,363
But we needed something
more than that.
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00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:13,627
We needed physical evidence
to tie these together.
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00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,543
Our perpetrator in Gainesville,
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00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:18,110
there had a B blood type.
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00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,939
Specifically, he
was a B secretor,
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00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:23,463
which is a very small
percentage of the population.
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00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:28,381
Their perpetrator in
Shreveport has a B blood type,
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00:32:28,468 --> 00:32:29,948
and he's a secretor.
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00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:36,389
I felt that whoever
did Shrieveport
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00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:39,044
in November 4th, in 1989,
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00:32:39,131 --> 00:32:42,264
may be our perpetrator in
Gainesville in August of 1990.
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00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:52,622
[foreboding music]
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00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:57,584
[telephone ringing]
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00:32:57,671 --> 00:32:59,020
- They would have
these news breaks
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00:32:59,151 --> 00:33:00,979
talking about the
Gainesville murders.
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00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:04,243
Another student got murdered.
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00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:06,810
And I mean, it
was just horrible.
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00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:10,771
And then they had a news flash.
444
00:33:10,858 --> 00:33:12,991
- [Reporter 3] It was one year
ago in Shreveport, Louisiana,
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00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:14,166
three people were murdered.
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00:33:14,253 --> 00:33:16,559
Sources say the girl's
body was mutilated
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00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:18,866
in a manner similar to the
murders in Gainesville.
448
00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:21,564
- And I looked at
Steve and I said,
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00:33:21,695 --> 00:33:26,308
"Steve, I guarantee
you, that's Danny."
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00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:30,965
When I started thinking about
the things he said to us,
451
00:33:31,052 --> 00:33:34,012
the way he acted, the
thing where he told Steve,
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00:33:34,099 --> 00:33:37,015
"he had a problem sticking
knives in people, he liked it,"
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00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:39,887
it wouldn't let me sleep.
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00:33:41,932 --> 00:33:43,804
So I called down
there and I said,
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00:33:43,891 --> 00:33:45,980
"I hear y'all think there's
a connection between
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00:33:46,067 --> 00:33:48,026
Shreveport and Florida."
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00:33:49,288 --> 00:33:50,593
And I said,
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00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,379
"I think there's someone
you need to investigate."
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00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,077
And they said, "Who?"
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00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:59,559
- She said, "His name
is Danny Rolling."
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00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:05,608
We were able to find
out that Danny Rolling,
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00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:07,306
we had him in the
Marion county jail
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00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:09,047
for having committed a robbery
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00:34:10,961 --> 00:34:14,617
just a few days after Manuel
Taboada and Tracy Paules
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00:34:14,748 --> 00:34:15,575
are both killed.
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00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:21,102
I grabbed another agent
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00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:24,410
and went down to the
Marion County Jail.
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00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:35,160
I knew I was meeting the killer.
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00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:36,422
I knew for sure it was him.
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00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:46,649
- I asked him for his
voluntary cooperation
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00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:48,564
to provide me with
a blood sample,
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00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:51,437
and he signed the form, and
we walked out with his blood.
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00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:55,789
- Guess what? He's a B secretor.
474
00:34:58,226 --> 00:35:01,099
- Now it's no longer
just my suspicion.
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00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:03,449
Here's our guy,
Danny Harold Rolling.
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00:35:10,586 --> 00:35:13,415
[foreboding music]
477
00:35:22,946 --> 00:35:27,603
- Danny told me about the
three homicides in Louisiana.
478
00:35:30,693 --> 00:35:33,522
- So it appears
that Danny saw Julie
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00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:35,481
in the department
store where she worked.
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00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,180
I think he tried to talk to her,
481
00:35:39,267 --> 00:35:42,662
and she sort of, in his
mind, maybe blew him off.
482
00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:48,146
- Julie probably
never even saw him.
483
00:35:50,104 --> 00:35:53,542
I think he just totally
turned himself over
484
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,848
to what was inside.
485
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,634
All the anger and hate.
486
00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:05,859
- Danny followed her home
and surveilled the residence.
487
00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:07,426
It was the perfect location.
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00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:09,167
It backed up to
this wooded area.
489
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:12,866
He watched Julie
through the window.
490
00:36:17,044 --> 00:36:19,612
And her father, Tom,
is outside barbecuing.
491
00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:22,397
So he's coming in and
out of the residence,
492
00:36:22,484 --> 00:36:24,051
the door remains unlocked.
493
00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:29,404
- His plan was to rape
her, make her suffer,
494
00:36:29,535 --> 00:36:31,798
and somehow put her
through the same thing
495
00:36:31,885 --> 00:36:32,886
that he went through.
496
00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:39,153
- He knew that there were
multiple people in this house,
497
00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:41,808
but for him, it was like,
498
00:36:41,895 --> 00:36:45,203
"I don't care. What I
really want is Julie."
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00:36:53,907 --> 00:36:55,387
[foreboding music]
500
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:12,882
- Danny had seen Julie
and he followed her home.
501
00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:17,931
Whereas in Gainesville,
Danny had planned his action.
502
00:37:19,149 --> 00:37:20,368
I think the first time,
503
00:37:20,499 --> 00:37:23,676
it was more of a spur of
the moment kind of thing.
504
00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:25,460
- Danny is wearing a mask
505
00:37:25,591 --> 00:37:29,812
and he's got a large
military knife.
506
00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:32,598
So he is a very
terrifying character.
507
00:37:35,905 --> 00:37:39,213
He walks Tom, the
55 year old father
508
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,956
into the utility room and
he stabs Tom in the back.
509
00:37:44,914 --> 00:37:47,830
He moves Julie to the bedroom
510
00:37:47,917 --> 00:37:52,139
and then he dispatches
Sean, the eight year old.
511
00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,664
- I asked him years later,
512
00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:58,363
why did you feel a
need to kill the father
513
00:37:58,450 --> 00:37:59,407
and the young child?
514
00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:00,234
And Danny told me,
515
00:38:00,321 --> 00:38:01,801
"'Cause they were in the way."
516
00:38:05,152 --> 00:38:07,328
- Now he was in the
position that he wanted.
517
00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:10,288
He had Julie in the
bedroom by herself.
518
00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,596
- He cut off her clothes
and her underwear,
519
00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:17,469
and that's when he
sexually assaulted her.
520
00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:23,692
And he got some kind
of gratification
521
00:38:23,823 --> 00:38:27,087
from being able to
have her afraid of him
522
00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:31,396
rather than the usual that
he was always intimidated
523
00:38:31,526 --> 00:38:32,484
by his father.
524
00:38:35,095 --> 00:38:39,099
- And then he basically
rolled her onto her stomach
525
00:38:39,186 --> 00:38:41,188
and then stabs her in the back.
526
00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:54,984
He wasn't panicked.
He was careful.
527
00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:58,553
Then you have to remember
that he's a lifelong criminal,
528
00:38:58,684 --> 00:39:01,600
and he's a lifelong
peeper and prowler.
529
00:39:01,687 --> 00:39:04,037
- He told me that he was
proud of what he did.
530
00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,525
[foreboding music]
531
00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,331
- One week before trial,
532
00:39:37,462 --> 00:39:41,291
the judge called me over
to say that Danny Rolling
533
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:42,554
wanted to enter a plea.
534
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:46,340
- I've been running
from first one thing
535
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:48,081
and then another all my life,
536
00:39:49,822 --> 00:39:53,913
but there are some things
that you just can't run from.
537
00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:08,493
- State witness.
538
00:40:08,623 --> 00:40:10,669
- Harry Krop, I'm a
Clinical Psychologist
539
00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:13,106
licensed in the
State of Florida.
540
00:40:13,193 --> 00:40:16,065
What I try and
communicate to a jury
541
00:40:16,152 --> 00:40:20,374
is that a person
isn't born a killer.
542
00:40:20,461 --> 00:40:24,117
So why did Danny Rolling
do such horrific things?
543
00:40:25,858 --> 00:40:28,817
I think you have to look at
all the psychological dynamics
544
00:40:28,948 --> 00:40:33,387
that go way back to
when he was a child.
545
00:40:33,518 --> 00:40:35,694
He indicated the father
would grab him by the hair,
546
00:40:35,781 --> 00:40:39,785
slam him against the
wall, shove him around.
547
00:40:39,872 --> 00:40:42,657
We have the domestic violence.
We have the emotional abuse.
548
00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:44,572
We have the neglect.
549
00:40:44,659 --> 00:40:47,793
The father clearly
was a control freak.
550
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:53,712
- We know that things that
happen in your young life
551
00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:58,151
come back and form part
of your personality.
552
00:40:58,238 --> 00:41:00,719
- The sexual disorder is
what we call voyeurism,
553
00:41:00,806 --> 00:41:02,677
and it's of a severe nature.
554
00:41:02,764 --> 00:41:06,464
It almost became a
pulsion with him.
555
00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:09,989
And then of course
Danny's failed marriage
556
00:41:10,076 --> 00:41:14,472
reinforced Danny's view that
everybody is against him.
557
00:41:16,386 --> 00:41:18,301
- Danny met the textbook
for progression.
558
00:41:18,388 --> 00:41:21,827
He started off as a peeing
Tom, he then was a burglar,
559
00:41:21,914 --> 00:41:24,003
and then he began to
become a serial rapist.
560
00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:28,747
His appetite couldn't be sated,
561
00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:33,012
until such time as he began
to commit the murders.
562
00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:42,021
- Danny chose the most
abject, horrible way
563
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:44,458
that these people could die.
564
00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:45,503
And he was fine with it,
565
00:41:47,592 --> 00:41:51,813
because it made Danny feel
like he was the one in control.
566
00:42:00,169 --> 00:42:01,736
- [Man] It is ordered in a
judge that the defendant,
567
00:42:01,823 --> 00:42:04,522
Danny Harold Rolling, is
hereby sentence to death.
568
00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:14,401
- All of these crimes
warranted the death penalty.
569
00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:15,533
It was that heinous.
570
00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:24,716
[foreboding music]
571
00:42:26,761 --> 00:42:28,284
- The reason it's
important for me
572
00:42:28,371 --> 00:42:30,286
to continue to
talk about Christie
573
00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:34,421
is because she was
stolen from me, from us,
574
00:42:35,422 --> 00:42:36,597
from the world.
575
00:42:36,684 --> 00:42:38,338
She would've made the
world a better place,
576
00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:39,731
and she didn't get
an opportunity
577
00:42:39,818 --> 00:42:41,080
to see her 18th birthday.
578
00:42:45,258 --> 00:42:46,651
- If Julie had lived,
579
00:42:46,738 --> 00:42:47,956
I firmly believe
that Julie and I
580
00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:53,092
would have ultimately
married and had children.
581
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:57,096
We would've had a normal life.
582
00:42:58,967 --> 00:42:59,925
I just miss Julie.
583
00:43:01,796 --> 00:43:02,580
I just miss Julie.
42881
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