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So, if you could just start

by giving me a brief rundown of what happened?

I remember the first time I walked into the courtroom for the case,

and I saw Sinaga sat

between two security officers in the dock.

And I thought, "That can't be him.

I must be in the wrong trial".

I just couldn't stop looking at him.

We were notified in this office in June 2017,

that Sinaga had been arrested.

And really the case began to build from that moment.

He looked studious.

He looked clever.

And most of all, he looked harmless, completely harmless.

And I guess that's the thing that makes him most dangerous,

it's how harmless he actually looks.

It was something that happened so local to us,

so close to us.

These were bars that we'd been out in.

These were streets that we've walked.

A serial rapist is starting a life sentence tonight.

Stalking the streets of Manchester,

he preyed on vulnerable often drunk men.

It was in this area of Manchester

that Reynhard Sinaga targeted his victims.

Night after night, Sinaga would leave

his Manchester flat to go and find victims.

Reynhard Sinaga came to the UK in 2007 on a student visa.

The judge describes Sinaga as a monster.

This is an absolutely unprecedented case.

He poses a Good Samaritan, offering help.

Police found mobile phones and watches kept as mementos.

It has been devastating for them.

Reynhard Sinaga is a deprived individual.

Reynhard Tambos Maruli Tua Sinaga.

As someone who've thought about taking their own lives.

They found hundreds of hours of video.

On one occasion, it took him just 60 seconds to pick up a victim.

A 10-year campaign of violence, sexual crime.

Taunting Central Manchester at night from the shadows.

This is a case which begs some terrible questions.

All of which has helped it to go on for so long

without having been uncovered.

What makes Manchester a great city is that it's vibrant.

It's a fun place to go out for a night out.

It's welcoming, it's accepting.

We help each other and we're proud here to be Mancunians.

Part of the reason Sinaga loved Manchester

is that he could be himself, he could kind of express himself.

He said this to his ex-boyfriend who I interviewed.

He said Sinaga told him he didn't like growing up in Indonesia

because he couldn't express who he was.

That's why he moved to Manchester and he just loved it.

He could be who he was.

He could be openly gay, could enjoy nights out.

He could grow his hair long, he could wear what he wanted, and...

And he, you know, he didn't like going back to Indonesia.

Every time he had to go back, he would cut his hair short.

He didn't seem to have a great relationship with his father

according to his ex-boyfriend that we spoke to.

He was probably coming to terms with quite a difficult...

Well, it must have been a difficult upbringing

for, you know, a young man coming to terms

with his sexuality in Indonesia to a strict Christian family.

When he got to Manchester, of course, he absolutely loved it,

especially the four bars and clubs where it happened.

So this is Factory nightclub,

which is a really popular club for students

and in this area actually on the whole

and is quite popular with students and the universities,

just kind of a ten minutes' walk away.

And then down here, just the base of the next building

is where Sinaga lived,

and here is the entrance to his apartment.

And sometimes, the queue from Factory nightclub is so long,

it pretty much went under his window.

We could see people in the queue from his window,

but this just shows this is the area where lots of students go out.

So it's kind of, you know, lots of opportunities for him

to take advantage of people.

The four bars and clubs where it happened

are all incredibly popular, busy parts of the city centre.

And everyone know now what happened there.

That night basically we started off,

met at a friend's house about ten or after, maybe earlier.

I had a few drinks there.

I think two or three drinks of Budweiser before going out.

Then I went across to Factory.

In this bar, I think I got a couple more double vodka lemonade.

Quite a few more drinks.

It's quite, quiet-ish at this point still.

I see my friends went to the Tyler. They go and I just wave.

I lost them, so I go outside for a bit to cool down.

There it's easy to phone them, when I'm outside.

Once outside, I weren't able to contact them

because obviously they're inside a club.

Music's loud, you know, nobody hears a phone vibrating.

I just wait outside for another 15, 20 minutes.

Outside I sat on a step on the side.

And I see this buddy walking past.

He catches my eye,

and he starts walking over to me.

He comes, sits next to me,

starts talking about general studies,

about his school, how his college is going.

He's just like a normal student, so I thought.

Simulates to me a very friendly and open...

I had nothing to worry about, I thought.

I thought he's just a student looking after another student.

He offered me to go back to his to keep warm,

"while you wait for your friends contact you."

It's probably about one o'clock, so it is quite cold outside.

I walked back with him

past the club and then into his flat.

He offered me a few drinks, a few shots,

because we were still drinking at this point.

And I thought nothing at this point, nothing really to worry about.

He's just a normal guy who's asking me to stay inside, keep warm.

In Sinaga's flat, there was a sort of cocktail table

full of various spirits and mixers,

which is where he would have got the drinks

for the guys who came back to his flat.

As he brought the drinks, I went to the toilet.

I came back, shots were poured

and then I ended up taking the two shots.

So it's okay, right, ready. What a fireball it was!

Tasted fine, it was normal.

There was a white, clear drink, like a Sambuca or vodka.

As soon as I had that one, my head was all over the place.

I felt like it was gonna fall.

I started tumbling to the bathroom.

At that point, I tried to call my friends.

I texted them, I wanted to say, "This is where I am."

He stops me, basically grabs my hands

to stop me from phoning them.

He says, "I know what you're about to say."

You need to relax, you need to rest.

And at that point, he took my phone off me.

For the next five hours or so,

I don't remember anything.

There was a search for a drug that we believe Sinaga used.

But surprisingly, there was no trace of that.

And so one can only assume that Sinaga's been meticulous

in disposing of anything that might link him physically

to the use of that drug.

GHB, the date rape drug, is also very easy to make.

Date rape drugs, as they're often called,

are usually odourless, tasteless, colourless.

It can make someone incapacitated

and absolutely have no memory of what happened.

Symptoms of drugging include loss of muscle control,

problems talking, problems seeing, even stomach problems.

GHB is out there and being used to sexually assaulted young girls.

You would typically expect the effects of GHB

to come on within around about 15 to 20 minutes.

If somebody was to invite somebody back to the house

and offer him a drink then the amount is so small

it's easy just to drop that

into any kind of soft drink or alcoholic drink,

and to not really kind of realise that you're taking anything.

Again there's that risk of overdose

and become unconscious, kind of a bit of induced coma.

And because of people kind of lose their consciousness

or they have memory loss,

it's really difficult for people to remember.

I woke up with my face down on the pillow

with my jeans and pants down, by my knee area.

I was on the floor on that quilt.

Next to me is a cupboard and a drawer.

If you walk into the door, would be in the far right corner.

And my head slides aside.

I turned around and I saw he was on top of me.

I was really disorientated, I didn't really know where I was.

I've just woken up from being drugged for five hours or so,

so I didn't have any recollection of where I actually was.

As soon as he realised that I was up,

he's actually trying to pull me down.

He was pulling my T-shirts to keep me basically in his room.

I was scared and didn't know what to do.

I was so disorientated,

all the adrenaline was pumping freely.

This guy is biting me, hitting me,

trying to stop me from leaving the apartment.

I hit him finally and I go then.

Once I basically leave that room to escape his apartment,

he takes me again there.

He just runs and headbutts me

and I basically throw him over the top of me

I hit him trying to get him to let go of me.

Finally, he lets go of me and that's when I come out the door.

Once I escaped the apartment, I ran out of the fire exit.

I see some person walking across the road.

I basically went over to him, asked him to use his phone,

so I can phone my mum.

He's very worried.

He doesn't want to give me his phone

because I'm covered in mine and Sinaga's blood.

But after a bit, I plead and he gives me his phone

and lets me phone the police.

Sinaga was taken out of his flat in Montana house on a stretcher.

They told me to go alongside to the police station

and they took him to the hospital.

He was in high intensive care for a few days.

The lad beat him up so badly

that paramedics initially believed he had bleed on the brain.

And the victim of the sexual assault was actually arrested himself

for assaulting Sinaga.

I was questioned as the perpetrator.

I was the one who beat this man up

and the police said that I basically chose to meet this guy

and then something went wrong so I beat him up.

So for the full weekend, he was the victim,

I was the perpetrator.

Whilst in hospital,

the suspicions began to build up in the police's mind

that he was just too keen to get his phones back.

He was extremely agitated and persistent

in wanting to recover his phones.

Because the guy who'd been arrested for assault,

had told the police, "No, I'm the victim of rape.

I'm the victim of a sexual assault.

You need to be arresting the guy in hospital."

So they smelt something fishy.

The flat was searched.

Material was seized.

And when police finally looked at Sinaga's phone,

that's when police began to unravel

this huge ordeal of rape.

They found...

Well, just...

A huge collection of footage that Sinaga had filmed.

This really harrowing footage of him attacking

not just one man, not just two men,

not three men but, but dozens

being raped, and raped, and raped,

and sexually abused over and over again over years.

They found the evidence, and now they're at ease.

They're at the hospital bed with police around him.

And that's when Sinaga was arrested.

There were something like 3.2 terabytes of data

that were found on two mobile phones,

several hard drives, laptops,

footage that he'd shot himself

from two vantage points on two iPhones.

It would be enough to fill 330 DVDs.

So we're talking an absolute monster's pile of recordings.

There were quite graphic and close-up images

of the acts that we included on the indictment.

He did do close-ups.

He did do more distance shots, if I can describe them that way,

and they were across the two phones.

And he seemed to get particular delight

in filming what had happened,

and one presumes in watching them over and over again thereafter.

Let's just say, pretty unpleasant viewing for most people.

There were repeated attacks on individuals throughout the night

with them obviously drugged throughout the ordeal.

One particularly striking occasion was when there were two males

in different rooms in the flat,

both of whom had been lured there by Sinaga

and given the lethal cocktail that knocked them out

to make them absolutely resistless against what he was about to do.

So again, that was a shock, when we found that out,

in terms of the prosecutors, experienced prosecutors,

dealing with sexual offences day in day out.

Even for them, this was something, you know, off the scale.

So there's a real intrigue

about serial killers and mass rapists.

But I don't think anyone's ever seen or...

I don't think anyone could really conceive

of someone perpetrating 200 rapes and sexual assaults

in the way that Reynhard Sinaga did.

It was quite prolific.

So the oldest victim was 36 years of age

and the youngest was just 17.

All male, just like that.

In the main, the same modus operandi

striking late at night, in the vicinity of his flat,

quite near to the hotels, bars,

various other sort of recreational establishments,

if I can call them that, in the middle of town.

He targeted mostly heterosexual men,

when they were kind of drunk and waiting for buses or taxis home.

He preyed on them

by kind of offering them somewhere to stay

while they kind of sobered up.

He'd help people who lost their wallets,

he'd help people whose phone's needed charging.

Any excuse really to get them back to his flat.

Once there, almost every time,

play the Good Samaritan, offer them a drink.

And drugged them, we think, with GHB and raped them.

One of the most surprising to many people things about this case

was that many of the victims

didn't remember what happened to them.

It's unfathomable, almost.

It's really difficult to comprehend for people.

We see stuff on the news.

You watch television programs, almost nightly,

where there's a murder or there's a serious rape

or sexual assault.

But when you're talking about nearly 200 victims by one man,

that's on a different scale.

I've been prosecuting 30 years

and I've never come across a case like it.

Sinaga is probably...

Britain's, if not the world's, most prolific rapist certainly

that's ever come before a court.

More men were attacked by Sinaga

than any other known perpetrator of rape or sexual abuse

in Britain, in Europe, perhaps even the world.

That's how big this was.

It hits you, it grabs you because you think,

"it could happen to me."

We all walk home in the dark.

We all walk to work in the dark.

It could happen to anyone.

It's quite surreal and, like, I'd say a bit more wary the place.

I still came for nights out after it many time.

So that's not the issue.

I'm a bit more wary of this area because of the whole incident.

I started wandering. I didn't realise how far I'd walked.

Literally, within this area here, is where I was at.

Basically, where these double lines are on the corners.

In all the accounts you see, he was very friendly,

he was very open, he was very welcoming.

So you didn't feel intimidated by him.

He didn't have the aura of like...

You don't need to be wary of him.

He used it as a way to get to you.

So this is the main centre of the client area.

This whole space opens up,

and this is a joint group space

where some of the men who were involved with the Sinaga case,

some of the men come here, come into this drop in space.

Some of these rooms are where the men come for therapy.

This has to be a safe and welcoming space for all survivors,

those that have been directly involved with the Sinaga case

and those that have been impacted by the Sinaga case too.

I received a phone call

from a detective chief inspector

to ask me if I would go over to the police headquarters

to have a conversation about an emerging case.

Nobody at the time knew how big this case was going to be.

I think he was one of the...

I think he was one of the crown prosecutors

that had said, "We think this might be the biggest rape case

in British legal history."

It has that... moment.

It has that gasp of breath moment.

I don't think there's ever been a more prolific rapist

before a court anywhere as far as we can establish.

When the flat was searched, a small collection of items

taken from victims by Sinaga were found.

Business cards, credit cards were some of them.

They found certain items

in either Sinaga's phone memory or his flat.

Like wallets, IDs, passports,

watches, or pictures of them,

screen grabs of their Facebook accounts.

When they looked at his phone,

there was some contact details

of some of the victims contained in there.

Or even smaller things, belt buckles perhaps,

that were regarded as souvenirs by Sinaga,

and he kept them to remember his victims by.

A sort of trophy, really.

And that's how police began this process

of trying to identify his victims.

Because the victims don't know

or didn't know until the police told them

that they had been offended against.

And because he hasn't in any way

volunteered information to the police

we've had to work with what the phone tells us.

They had certain material to be able to identify some people.

So the police has to go to people's houses to identify them.

And yeah, it must be an incredibly difficult moment

when you get that knock on the door.

And there are several men who got the knock on the door

from the police and were told what had happened,

and said to them, "You must have the wrong guy.

You must be mistaken because it didn't happen to me.

I would know if that happened to me."

But they were shown screen grabs of themselves on Sinaga's phone

and yeah, realised that actually had happened to them.

So when the story broke, a tweet actually emerged of two guys,

one of whom was Sinaga looking quite happy.

And the guy had tweeted in 2016 after staying over at Sinaga's house

to thank him for rescuing him on a night out,

only when it became clear in the news

that Sinaga was a rapist and what his modus operandi was.

And was it clear he hadn't rescued this guy at all,

he'd raped him or sexually assaulted him

and that was how that guy actually found out

that he'd been a victim and he hadn't been rescued at all.

The conversation then moves straight into victim care.

And after more deliberation and conversation,

we collectively decided

that the best people to support the police in that

were the crisis workers over at the SARC,

at the Sexual Assault Referral Centre.

They never wanted me to actually see the videos,

but they did take screenshots of it to prove that was me.

It was like a screenshot of me like almost asleep.

Of me, of my face, of my t-shirt as well

and the jeans, the trousers I was wearing that day.

I saw about four or five screenshots that proved that was me.

It was very, again, very surreal to see me like that.

It was weird.

I was just part of the case.

I knew I had to deal with it just to be able to get on with it.

So I did, and then he could be walking free.

I think we were sat in the office when we first heard how many victims

there might have been.

Someone said it's around 200.

And we were like, "No, this can't possibly be,"

because we would have heard of it.

The police would have told us,

so we didn't initially believe it to be true.

But we walked across the road,

went to Manchester Crown Court, and the trial was underway.

And I thought, "I must be in the wrong trial."

I just couldn't stop looking at him.

He was tiny in comparison

to two security officers he was sat in between.

He had shoulder length hair and quite trendy glasses.

He had a baggy jumper on. He was carrying a file.

He looked studious.

He looked clever.

He looked friendly.

He was chatting with his two security officers.

And most of all, really, he looked completely harmless.

I guess that's the thing that makes him most dangerous,

it's how harmless he actually looks,

because that's what fooled a lot of men into believing

that they could go back to his flat and they'd be safe there.

It was just incredible,

literally incredible,

because it just didn't seem to fit the man who was sat in the dock.

And we had the first batch of 12 victims for the first trial.

All the while, material was being downloaded from the phones,

more and more victims were being identified.

There was obviously the challenge

of having to watch quite disturbing footage,

quite unpleasant footage

from the downloads from Sinaga's phones.

It was played in court in full.

The Press couldn't see it, but jurors watched it.

Sinaga himself watched it, the lawyers watched it.

The judge had our own screen to watch it on as well.

Some people tried not to look for too long,

especially at the start of the trials,

jurors were really uncomfortable

about watching this footage for too long,

until they realised that the whole trial essentially

was going to be watching this footage for hours on end.

He, you know, maintained...

Some of it was sort of a macabre role-play.

He insisted on maintaining his "not guilty" plea,

that the victims had all consented to this activity.

We obviously countered

his suggestion of this being consensual

by saying, "Well, look at the videos, Mr. Sinaga.

These people are comatose.

Some of them are snoring whilst the activity is going on.

Some are vomiting.

Are you really trying to suggest

that these victims consented to all this?"

I stood facing the jury, he was to the left of me.

And I get my evidence to the jury.

They'd already seen my videotape of what happened to me.

So they're basically just crosses out and leave me at this point.

In the court, he was laughing and joking with the prison officer

while I was watching him.

He thought he was so important. It's his day. He was special.

After the end of the first trial, Sinaga was aware

that he'd been convicted.

After the end of the second trial, he had been told

he would be serving at least 15 years.

He insisted on maintaining his not guilty plea,

even in the fourth trial.

Yeah, he just really seemed to be enjoying the process

and showing absolutely no remorse whatsoever during his sentencing,

which is the time when,

if these people are going to say anything,

before they're taken down for the next 30 years

and are never seen in public again,

they'll say something, it's their final chance.

But he said nothing.

He was really blasted about the whole thing.

The judge didn't take kindly to that.

I remember she ordered him to stand up while she addressed him,

while she sentenced him.

He looked straight ahead at her.

His hands were clasped in front of him like this.

At the end of it, she just looked really sternly at him and said,

"Take him down, take him away."

And the two dock officers just let him down,

and he didn't really look at anyone on his way out.

He just had this sort of thing... a smile on his face almost.

One can only assume that he takes some sort of delight,

get some sort of kick out of watching his victims

have to go through it in court, give evidence,

describe in detail what happened to them.

In the same way, presumably, he derived some sort of satisfaction

from replaying what was on his phone

to watch the acts over and over again.

Was there ever any sort of psychological analysis of him?

No, because he won't, he would have to agree to that sort of analysis,

that sort of assessment in custody.

And to my knowledge, he's just disengaged entirely

with the authorities

that would do that sort of thing in our prison service.

So again, he remains

something of a mystery in that regard.

He was just the ultimate narcissist.

He enjoyed people speaking about him,

he enjoyed talking about himself,

and even tried to do a PhD on sort of sexual behaviour

of Southeast Asian men in Manchester,

which his ex-flatmate said was basically an autobiography.

He was just a man sort of totally wrapped up in his own world.

Personally speaking, I think that we are certainly

on some kind of...

psychopath spectrum, for want of a better word.

The way that he has conducted himself in court...

I just think there's something very...

unnatural about that kind of behaviour.

The Sinaga case is a prime example of why rape isn't about sex,

or sexuality or sexual orientation.

It's about power.

He preyed on men who were heterosexual,

but, as you know, a good-looking guy in a liberal city,

he could have had lots of sexual relationships

with consenting men if he'd have chosen to do so.

But obviously for him it was about this kind of dominance

over these guys and taking something that wasn't his.

His modus operandi, I guess, as an offender

was driven by this kind of power and control over people, it seems.

Sinaga seemed to get some perverse satisfaction

of not just himself being able to watch the footage back,

but all these people in this courtroom

and the judge herself being able to watch this footage.

It was like he was enjoying the spectacle a second time.

And there was some speculation

among members of the press and lawyers

about whether he was pleading not guilty,

despite the overwhelming evidence,

just so that he could go to trial,

so that he could then watch all this footage again.

He never looked lost during my case.

And the judge's last statement on the last case

was he wanted to take it to court,

he wanted to be the celebrity almost.

The judge called Reynhard Sinaga "an evil sexual predator,

who had shown not a just of remorse."

Being a serial rapist, he's starting a life sentence tonight

after he was found guilty of attacking at least 48 men.

In these four criminal trials

that have been going on over the past two years,

the police suspects there could be up to 190 victims of Sinaga in total

over a 10-year campaign of violence, sexual crime

based out of his flat in central Manchester.

The Judge Suzanne Goddard QC

described Reynhard Sinaga as a monster,

and looking at him as he stood in the dock,

she said he seemed to be enjoying the trial process

even as he was standing to be sentenced.

And the other thing that we have just found in the last few minutes

is that the Home Secretary has ordered the review.

Sinaga will serve at least 30 years in jail.

Ben Chapman reports.

More and more people are coming forward

when this sentencing happened

and the story went out into the public domain.

There is this huge rush of people to charities

like Survivors Manchester and Survivors UK saying,

"I think I may have been abused by this man."

So I think rape, sexual abuse of man

is much more common than people think,

than kind of what the media would have us believe.

What gets into the public consciousness

is just the tip of the iceberg.

These four criminal trials...

When the news broke about Sinaga, one of his victims' tweet emerged.

And some of the comments in response to the tweet

were absolutely horrific.

People kind of making fun of him,

homophobic jokes about sex with a man and so on.

Ridiculing him as a man who've been raped,

and not taking it seriously at all,

which I think reflects the view our society to a large extent has

about men being raped

and men kind of been victimised in that way.

What a lot of men experience when they speak out about rape

or the way that a man being raped is kind of the source of ridicule,

rather than treat it as a very serious, traumatising crime.

Shame and guilt have become the hallmark of the male survivor,

of the male victim.

And I think that's something really important

about shame, guilt, vulnerability...

They're not the attributes of the prince on the horseback.

If we continue to perpetuate those ideas,

we're never going to allow men to speak out.

Especially in my situation, I felt like I was less believed.

I'm not bashing the police.

You could say they even think it can actually happen,

but it's not true, is it?

If a woman did that,

they would've been praise for saving themselves while I was arrested.

Many men speak of being strong,

and like a lot of that stigmatises, but the normal male way is,

"We don't talk," and it's just...

It does happen.

This is probably as common as women, but no one ever talks about it.

If it was a girl, they were sent her straight to St. Mary's,

get her checked out, and then if you are not...

Not the other way round and wait, two, three days after it.

The drug that he used stays maximum 12 hours to get out of your systems.

It gets out of your system

and you've lost major part of evidence there.

I wasn't sent to St. Mary's,

I was basically pursued for 24 hours.

I was the perpetrator and he was the victim.

Until they found the phone evidence that proves otherwise.

I'd like to think I will be fine, I've just tried to get on with it.

I'm alive, if he's away,

I don't need all the extra stuff after.

We've got to be the change makers.

We've got to make sure that the future boys

are going to come forward, because let's be clear,

we are not going to tackle sexual violence like that.

It just isn't going to happen.

But what we've got to do is we've got to make sure

that any future survivors, any future victims,

any future boys that are abused, any future men that are raped,

we've got to make sure that they understand

there is support available.

We've got to make sure that there is support available.

And we've got to make sure it is as easy as possible

for people to step forward.

So I think no matter what you...

if you think it's happened to you then you got to come forward.

The stigma of male rape is very much...

You can't talk about and all.

Men don't talk whereas... He doesn't, like...

He's eating you up from the inside.

When you can talk to people about it, it helps you.

There's support in Manchester, in all the areas,

where you can be supported and get through it.

I'm just another boy from Manchester who just wants to live his life.

How likely or how plausible is it

that there are further victims yet that we don't know about?

I think there are, there will almost certainly be

further victims that we don't know of yet.

As I say, we've had to really just restrict our inquiry

to what Sinaga's phones have revealed.

There could be phones, other devices that he's got rid of.

Yeah, there's still people who don't know.

There will be people who don't know.

And there'll be people who won't want to know either.

But the police

are still trying to address as many people as possible.

They'll be looking at all these souvenirs,

trying to connect them.

There remain quite a significant number

that despite our best efforts,

have not been able to be identified.

And the police continue to try to work out who these men are,

but without so much success as we speak now.

Whether there'll ever be a final tally

of how many people he actually attacked,

remains to be seen.

It's really a known...

I think that 200 figure

is from the souvenirs

that police have been able to trace to people.

So that may, in some ways, be a conservative figure.

We just don't know.

The only person who might have any idea

is citing strange words.

And for the time that he's been in there,

which is more than two years, in August, being in prison,

he's been refusing to engage with detectives,

he's been refusing to engage with psychologists,

he's been refusing to engage with probation officers.

The only one with the answers in this is Reynhard Sinaga.

He's the only one who really knows the extent of what he's done.

I just think it would be ludicrous to assume

that everybody who has been directly impacted by Sinaga

has now spoken out.

I think that would be ludicrous, to assume that.

Even if it's just one person that hasn't spoken out,

there's still someone out there.

There may also be people out there who have just no idea what happened.

There'll be people out there watching this

who have never spoken out,

who are sat there silently,

wondering whether they should say anything.

There are people who will be out there

watching this documentary who are...

worried about anybody ever finding out what happened to them.

I'd always say to everybody,

doesn't matter whether they have been

directly or indirectly affected by this particular case.

There are people who are willing to listen

and there are people that want to help,

and when you feel ready,

then you should know that there are people

willing to give you that right support.

Subtitles: Alejandra Garbarello plint.com