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thank you

all right everyone welcome back uh we're

meeting today with the gentleman who

have actually spoken to a couple times

before uh last year some of you may have

participated in the biohacker DNA

conference that we hosted where we did a

series of interviews and the only person

that I felt like I had to interview

twice was Dr Isaac Elias who's here with

us today first of all welcome thank you

for joining us thank you thank you for

having me again yeah we had a great

conversation that I really enjoyed and

what what a great topic yeah it was

awesome because I felt like there was so

there was one thing we were ready to

cover which we're going to talk about

today uh but it kept going and your

knowledge was vast and your experience

and the things that you've actually been

through were amazing so we're going to

talk about a different way of looking at

disease we always talk about

inflammation inflammation inflammation

being the root which is true for the

most part but there's this whole other

side that we as health enthusiasts

biohackers you know clinicians don't

talk to about which is the fibrosis the

other end of it you hear about it here

and there

and there's a whole other root cause uh

and you've dwell you've dug deep into

this you've healed people there's like

stories that could only be described as

miracles for what I've heard of your

work and it's being done globally now

and luckily you've put a book out now so

everybody can also learn first of all

before we dive into all this stuff the

foundation of this the work you're doing

is rooted in dealing with the galactic

three so what is that for the person

that's never heard that term before so

maybe even taking a step back because

you mentioned inflammation sure my

my book the survival Paradox I finally

wrote a book after Decades of being

asked to write a book it really reflects

a new paradigm in the understanding of

health and disease

so as you mentioned we recognize the

driving force of inflammation

in aging and in multiple diseases acute

diseases right it's what makes an

infection turn into sepsis in somebody

having organ failure and chronic

diseases

but while inflammation is a driving

force it's really not the root cause of

anything

inflammation is a response inflammation

is a body's response

right to a problem

and what drives inflammation is our

survival response

so it's really this of inappropriate

survival response that is the root cause

of inflammation in one end of fibrosis

on the other end and of Aging

and and the of Aging degeneration and

really having a deeper understanding is

the key

yeah to opening a deeper dog door to

biohacking because now you're going

deeper you know it's really interesting

that even in the field of cancer I do a

lot of work there was a lot of interest

in genomic expression but genomic

expression doesn't mean it's going to be

a phenot a phenotypic expression you

have a choice so when we understand this

it is a it is a it is a paradox because

we are here because we had a survival

response and over multiple Generations

we made it and because the survival

response is so innate in us it's

automated

it has to start in a fraction of a

second we can't control it and that's

exactly what happens to our autonomic

as it's our nervous system through the

sympathetic nervous system now what's

amazing is that we now recognize it

beyond the initial classical

understanding of the sympathetic

response which either responds with a

fight response which equates to

inflammation

like if we rub our hands strong we feel

heat or flight which equates to running

away to hiding to isolation

to creating a micro environment

into creating fibrosis and dysfunction

so these are very basic things but now

we recognize how the sympathetic

response drives so many diseases from

the gut brain connection from

neuroinflammation affecting so many

illnesses from right now from coveted

patients who is going to really who is

really going to turn into a long hole

who is going to die from the disease so

we have this

unregulated survival response that has a

very important

nervous system response but we can be

wired and on alert and then we take a

few deep breaths we meditate we relax

and slowly slowly we shift into a

parasympathetic response and all of us

can do it on one level or another

but what happened is that there's also a

biochemical system that responds and the

biochemical system responds through

protein that are called alarming protein

the alarm is on there is fire and one of

the key proteins that I've been

researching for almost 30 years in Maine

the main Discovery Discovery is that

blocking it will attenuate and stop

inflammation fibrosis is a protein

called galactin-3 so galactin-3 is a

protein that is excreted as part of in

survival response it's part of an injury

repair and it responds by driving

inflammation

by driving fibrosis

and by driving immune dysregulation

which are really the Hallmarks of

inappropriate aging and the Hallmarks of

the issues that any biohackers really

wants to address

so I understand this bad word of

information that we assume to be bad it

actually is only bad because of our

current context meaning that

inflammation is a mechanism of healing

and survival like you said is the key

word and it's only that we're not now

experiencing periodic acute risk you

know inflammatory insults it's chronic

everyday ongoing that's the difference

the difference between exactly we had

this inflammatory response which is good

for us which helps us which we're only

supposed to experience whatever once

every few months when somebody cuts

themselves a knife or drops a rock on

their input but now it's everything you

deal with is causing inflammation and

it's too much right exactly if you look

at a baby or actually even in YouTube

where they did studies if you make a

cutting on the skin of a baby it will

heal without a skull because you had an

inflammatory response it was very it was

down regulated it was stopped in the

right way and the body healed perfectly

the regenerate creative Powers were

strong enough which is classical which

is really I'm just I just spoke for for

a regenerative medicine somebody that is

starting soon and I explained this a lot

of people are interested in regeneration

but to regenerate what is regeneration

and let's talk about a little bit later

so that's one part but we need to be

able to stop the inflammatory response

to stop the fire because otherwise it

burns everything and that's what

happened in inflammation so for example

we've published important studies in

sepsis in animal models where we showed

that when we block electing three we

modified State respective

with the Galaxy 3 Blocker we attenuate

the sepsis response there is no kidney

damage and the animals don't die

so there's one that's one part and we

show that when patients come to the

Intensive Care Unit with sepsis with

infection in the blood with no

pre-existing kidney disease how disease

or cancer their level of galactin 3 at

the time of admission when you don't

detect any kidney damage will determine

who later on will get kidney damage and

who will die in the Intensive Care wow

so these are dramatic that's part of my

work with therapeutic are fairies I'm

developing a column that will remove

galactin-3 you know as part is part of

this treatment and I have a I have a in

a large and age Grant to to study it I

hope to be in the clinic in about a year

that's the small column I'm I don't know

if it can be seen yeah we can see it

yeah but but that's that's that's like

medical device that's another thing but

from our perspective this is an extreme

but the same process Kashif is happening

every second on every

on the level of inflammaging that's what

we are interested we are not regular

doctors are looking for inflammatory

markers you can have a very subclinical

inflammation that is affected by

stress mental it's emotional stress

psychological stress toxins heavy metals

mycotoxin pesticides radiation of

different types and epigenetic

influences which are multi-generational

and all of these are driving us from how

we feel

from how we experience our life

to the cellular level because when the

cell feels safe

when the cell doesn't feel that it's in

the survival mode it can produce energy

efficiently right when we are relaxed we

can breathe deep and slow and we feel

better than we are very stressed well

when the cell gets this signal it

produces energy in a very efficient way

through the mitochondria but it's

limited to how much energy it can

produce because it's not in crisis when

we go into a crisis survival mode our

cellular

function changes our mitochondrial

function changes and we produce energy

100 times faster just like when we

Sprint and we are fighting but

five percent five to six percent

efficiency and a lot of nasty byproducts

and so this kind of effect it can come

from the outside when it's done enough

is starting to change certain pathway in

the body and starts to turn on and off

different genes in our body that will

then will be passed to the Next

Generation

more to our family members or to our

friends in the same time and we all

experience it we come to a room whether

somebody with a big heart really just

and we can feel their unconditional love

and everybody just feel like we are

being nourished right it's experience

and we come into a room and there's a

nasty Angry Birds with plenty of them in

the last few years and wow

all of society is on edge look what's

happening right now right

so on the global level so we have our

micro inflammation

on a mind level

on a DNA level

or in a mitochondrial level on a

cellular level on on a personal level on

a community level and on a macro level

it's called global warming there is an

explanation on a global scale right it's

amazing because this concept of the

health that I'm experiencing today my

ancestors are partly responsible for

that whether it's good or bad meaning

that and you think about this it's

almost like time travel or something

that science fiction but we've already

understood and proven this

biologically that you truly are

experiencing the trauma the pain the

problems of your ancestors so give us an

example of that because this is

something that is over most people's

heads but

how are you experiencing the world today

is part and parcel with how your

ancestors did and you're carrying their

pain and burden with you because of

epigenetic expression totally so you

know I I've been talking about it and

teaching it as part of my unique

training in meditation for decades so

you know decades ago people who didn't

really connect with me they just thought

I'm crazy you know but now that

epigenetics and I talked about it not

because I read about it because it was

my experience through meditation through

through contemplations to understanding

through insight and now of course it's

supported because

we know that epigenetically we are

affected we're not only affected

genetically and it's not only our

ancestors people around our ancestors

just like I gave the example of somebody

with a big heart and everybody feels or

somebody so imagine you're in a place

and there is a terrible dictator

and you're always in stress and in

danger for

decades

and it's affecting and even if you feel

a little bit you can contain it people

around you are freaking out and it's

affecting you you are holding their pain

and now you have to support them yes but

you have to be an alert certain genes

get turned on and then you pass it on to

the next Generation so in my book I

share the story I'm named after my my my

grandfather Isaac

and

he died from stomach cancer when he was

50 years old so my my grandparents

escaped from Poland on September 1st

literally as Hitler was coming in in

some of the family you stayed was killed

the same day because they lived in a

small

tourist town that now is in Ukraine

actually and they were like they were

one of the wealthiest families so they

got killed first

so

we were never and so my grandmother is a

Survivor lived to 98 and when she died

in 2007 on her grave my mother turns

around and tells us you know your

grandfather

10 out of 12 siblings were killed by

Hitler only to survive we were never

told even that our own grandfather lost

10 of his siblings not talking about his

parents of course wow now it was never

talked here to stomach it in his stomach

and obviously it caused stomach cancer

but I over there this weird very intense

pain in my chest with pain in my upper

back and it's also produce scoliosis

which I overcame and I just knew I

started meditating at the age 14 15 and

I just knew that it's really not mine

and only when I connected with it deeply

through meditation and insight and

psychological work and

developing the ability to somaticize

when we open up how can we bring this

openness into ourselves

I realized it and I went through my own

process about of acceptance of

forgiveness around the Holocaust and the

pain disappeared now I can push here

very strong I get zero pain but okay so

that's it's a nice story a great but

interesting enough my mother she was a

single child was never able to watch any

programs about the Holocaust

and after I went through my own healing

she suddenly was able to watch programs

about the Holocaust and I didn't tell

her what I went through I went back to

the source of the trauma and it not only

healed me she was between my grandfather

and me so she went through her own

healing now she didn't do what I did

with it because she has different set of

tools but this is multi-generational

healing so why is this so amazing

when we connect with this understanding

when we connect with the interdependence

between all of us

we understand that we have the

responsibility the gift and the

possibility to affect practically

countless people around us because of

this interdependence you know we just

adopted two puppies that my daughter

drove 400 miles to rescue they were

going to kill them and they were very

traumatized and we are healing them now

but we did some genetic tests for them

and we are fighting all their cousins

you know and we see similar trades you

know it's similar with human beings if

we go so some of the genes they call

them wolfiness are from 15 000 years ago

okay fifth I mean 15 years ago is when

humans first started domesticating dogs

interesting so we look at our line and

if we two people made us and if you look

back when children were born in earlier

age for parents would take 25 years as a

generation because she's 1500 years it's

an infinite number definitely 1600 years

like the famous story about the grain of

of Wheat and the person who developed

the the chests he gave it to the

person's a king Emperor and he said what

can I give you he says just give me one

grain of Wheaton the first one and two

and four and eight and he had to kill

him there wasn't enough grains in the

whole earth

but in this sense we are made from

countless people so that's why there is

an independent an interdependence

between us this multi-generational thing

is Big yeah I always say imagine we had

millions of people meditating in the

same moment and feelings as they are

opening their heart to each other they

drop their belief systems yeah and this

has been done it's been studied it's

been proven it's hard for people to

swallow and digest and like how is this

even possible science like it's science

of times quantum physics talks about

exactly uh quantum entanglement right

you came from your mother

physically right and meaning that a

piece of her and a piece of your father

created the original piece of you right

and we already know quantum physics says

in quantum entanglement when you take

two cells apart and they split and they

turn into two separate entities that

they are still in this field that we

still don't understand connected meaning

that if something is experienced here

it's instantaneously experienced over

here regardless of how far apart they

are

and now now think about this you came

for your mother but meaning these these

cells split

to the point where we become different

beings but those cells are still

entangled but the relationship between

mother and child is probably the closest

entanglement we have which is why it's

so easy to sort of access and and

experience you know mom's like I'm

worried I'm going to give my daughter a

call and daughter's actually having a

problem how did that happen exactly your

your uncle dreamed about you it's

another layer you're one step away now

for the mother and then it gets another

step but we all came for the same thing

what was it it was a big bang originally

a single needle head that exploded into

all of what we are so if quadrupontagne

is true we're all the same so anyways I

just wanted to point this out because

some people hearing I might say okay Dr

Elias everything sounded good but now

you lost me because how did you heal

yourself healing your mother did you

build a time machine no is because

intercellularly

we think ourselves about ourselves as

separate entities but the cell that came

from the cell is still entangled to the

cell and still communicating back to it

and when you do something so impactful

and Powerful as healing trauma that came

from a prior Generations through

epigenetic expression you literally

erase it from that generation also

because the cells from now on I'm going

to have you explain this this is perfect

explanation now why is this important

because

on a very biochemical supplement

lifestyle we talked about galactian

three and blocking it with respect us

all but if it's a respecting but we also

talk about the fact that when we become

less in a survival mode right genes

genes starts to unwind but certain

people

who haven't I met some people in my life

who have a greater capacity to hold

bigger spaces you would say the quantum

entanglement capacity is bigger it can

be in many places in different times

there they have a bigger mind you know

right such people will have more effect

on more people at a given time but in

the same time often people say who is

the best person to do healing for us or

people who believe in prayer Pray For Us

you see others this great person well

people are really close to you they are

usually the most powerful because

they're quantum entanglement is much

closer it has a stronger physical link

but often you know you will hear from

people who who are great meditation

teachers and students just hit dreams

about them and they've never met them

they've never heard about them right

right the same way to really go out

there it is you know we are being

interviewed is a big I don't know when

it will air but we interviewed in the

beginning of the year you know so

often

often you know there is power

to this approach

and really what he does it opens the

door to Limitless possibilities because

everything is changing all the time yeah

you remind me of a story that puts us

like makes us real

there's a study that was being done on

random number generators using that to

prove that we actually can affect this

field through energy through our

thoughts we could actually could change

physical objects and so the thinking was

that if we get enough people thinking

about something that the randomness that

chaos or the random number generator

will will find some kind of equilibrium

and the randomness will disappear so

they tried this and they tried this and

they tried this and the point came where

the random numbers started to speak in a

very specific pattern

that was completely not random very

perfect very purposeful pattern and like

wow what just happened we did something

right so what was happening in that

moment when that happened

O.J Simpson's

trial verdict

where there was over a billion people

watching the same thing wondering guilty

or innocent guilty or innocent guilty or

innocent guilty and everybody was

thinking about the same thing at the

same time and in that moment that

machine that was jurisdictionally

nowhere near most of these people wow

started producing numbers in a very

sequential order and very purposefully

and when it was over it went back to

random

where you get certain societies certain

religions people start behaving in a

similar way they start talking in a

scene right because things are not as

random so part of freedom

is is allowing the randomness

to stay fresh that's really the ultimate

meditation the ultimate meditation is

when everything is random all the time

which means whatever arises when you

recognize that it's impermanent it's

going to change and you don't hold to it

you allow the randomness now this

randomness

has this is amazing what you're saying I

don't wanna I can easily go somewhere

but this is one of the big secrets to

Healing you say Isaac what are you

talking about well

when we are very focused healer some

people have very powerful energetic

healers they can transmit energy they

are but they are they are I'm using your

language they are manipulating the

randomness into a certain direction

right and standing in certain direction

and that's one way of healing I call it

conceptual healing it's powerful but

it's somebody doing something to someone

else it's limited because it's linear

there's a Direction

when you have a real when you can hold

things in a truly random way as you just

said it's random everything is possible

we are right everybody agrees you agree

with me but if we are trained in the

same time

to be connected with our heart which is

Flowing all the time but it but in

principle it gives nourishment love and

compassion all the time

now our Randomness itself is suffused

with the quality of healing

and then we can take this Randomness and

we can

Channel it into healing while we are

staying random and this is a combination

of effortlessness

with an intention

very and then in in a in philosophical

system we will call it enlightened

intent it's not enlightened because the

person is enlightened it's enlightened

because it's coming from a place of

everything is possible there is no

judgment but there is a inner Intel

connectivity the quantum entanglement

exactly what we talked about yeah so if

it's really ultimate healing is that's

where spontaneous healing happens it

makes sense because if you're if you

believe in if you allow a belief to

accept everything then anything that's

possible can come to you right meaning

that the options that you didn't think

were there totally if yeah if you're

very close-minded in your thinking then

you may not allow those things to come

to you so that's it makes sense the

randomness equals kind of these

tentacles going out and finding

solutions that possibly weren't there if

you didn't think that random and then

going back what happened when you're

going to survival mode sympathetic

system our pupils become right will look

very very carefully we become narrow

narrow tunnel vision we are focused on

on certain things we are the

anti-randomness state of mind we are

totally focused on one thing we don't

see any more other things and that's

part of the alert system that saves us

but takes us out of this nourishing

endless possibilities so the Journey of

healing is going back into the state on

if we talked about Galactic 3 is the

protein

yeah you know and but in the same time

the other part of my life when I

probably spent even more time is just

using meditation in connection with the

mind and the heart to really

get to the space and they both affect

each other because when the heart is

opened when everything is flowing

there is no heat accumulation there's no

stasis there's no inflammation there's

definitely not fibrosis fibrosis is

hardness in a place where it's not

supposed to be so when we connect with

our heart we connect with ongoing flow

the moment the heart stops flowing we

did yeah

so I know that so you've been talking

about some of the tools you use

meditation and intergenerational healing

which is awesome if you can actually get

there

you also found

some natural supplements that actually

can help break down and allow for that

healing and I think you've been focusing

on something called pectasol is that

right yeah so what is the mechanism what

does it actually do that's different and

unique compared to everything else out

there right so pictosol is a

modification of citrus pectin pectin is

the is is present in the inside of the

citrus fruit is the white parts and it's

a long chain of a carbohydrate called

galactronic acid it doesn't get absorbed

but it can absorb some toxins in the gut

even some cholesterol it has to take

some health benefits when we modify to a

very specific structure

it gets absorbed into the bloodstream

and it blocks galactin 3 galactin three

how does the electron 3 function it is

like the bus that takes inflammatory

compound hyper viscosity compound sticky

compounded stick cancer cells together a

compounds it will will disrupt the

immune system and it delivers them they

bind because many of such compound

ligands have a carbohydrate they bind to

galactin-3 galacticity takes them to the

area of inflammation then five galactin

3 binds together to a lattice formation

they create a coating

or they bind to the cell membrane

through different receptors and they

disrupt

the metabolism and genetic expression of

the cell so when when you disrupt it

with pectasol with modified with

respecting this lattice formation Falls

away

and what happens suddenly there is no

there's no isolation there's no

separation there's no inflammation

and you get attenuation of the condition

so we showed the effect of modified

introspecting in sepsis but we also

showed the effect

in biochemical relapse of prostate

cancer and in cardiovascular diseases

there are about 80 published papers on

pectasol there's a lot of research it's

much bigger than me

on the whole field so is this something

that somebody takes as an acute response

to a problem like a prostate relapse or

is it more like a daily regimen to

maintain a certain terrain head to toe

or what is it you know being in this

field for

almost 40 years in in finding and just

making some of a few very important

discoveries

modified prospecting is the most

important supplement someone can take

because galactin 3 is going to affect

aging and disease in every single person

in different levels and as we age it

becomes more critical but blocking

galactin 3 and also modified with

respecting and I publish a number of

papers showing that pector Soul can bind

and chelate heavy metals and toxins all

right Mercury

a uranium even you know multiple heavy

metals a cadmium nickel so it also

clears toxins from the system and it

also regulates the immune response when

someone has a high level of galactin 3

for example they will not respond as

well to immunotherapy in cancer so it's

a very it's a foundational supplement

that you can take other supplements with

you can you know you can integrate into

your diet into your lifestyle so the

more we have health issues the higher

those we need so the optimal dose it has

been researched is 15 grams a day but if

somebody is very healthy and you know in

a great shape and there's no Market of

inflammation then five grams a day maybe

maybe enough for them if you can use it

in powder in capsules you know and but

it's really it's a foundational

supplement because it addresses this

uncontrolled survival paradox

and from what I understood from your

work in your book uh kind of a metaphor

it's kind of like there's a capsule

forming around the cell or the site and

you're kind of chipping away and

breaking away hey what what other

supplements are you taking that aren't

even being delivered to the location you

thought that they're meant to be right

exactly and it's it's not really a

metaphor that's what happens you create

the micro environment you know people

talk about biofilm people for example in

the gut well arterial sclerosis is also

a biofilm if you have it if galactin 3

will disrupt the blood-brain barrier so

larger molecules coming to the brain it

will it will instigate

chronic inflammation glial activation in

the brain causing inflammation of the

brain Alzheimer's plaque is 10 to 20

times higher concentration of galactin 3

compared to a normal brain tissue so

that's one com one component which is

essential and into it we put other

supplements and lifestyle in diet and

our state of mind our state of heart we

all have moments when we are in a great

state of mind yeah but we are not I do

you do everybody does but we always have

a choice with the next breath with an

egg thought

to change it

yeah that's um something we just said

the other day you know New Year's you

know it just happened and somebody asked

me what's the one thing you would say

and just the immediate every single

choice you make changes your future

every time you make a choice to talk to

somebody to eat something to breathe

something you've just decided to change

your future and believe it or not just

to make it a little bit more complicated

to change your past

and that's the story right I went back

to a trauma that happened a long time

ago and then it pro it projected into

the future

into my mother and there are many you

know there are studies of course showing

it not like I discovered something okay

so we have to understand this is

interdependence because we know time

doesn't only go forward time also goes

backward yeah just harder for us to to

comprehend it but once we're at the

total relaxation

then of course things don't go just in

One Direction you're going every

direction yeah time and space so that's

why it is so amazing right I mean what

what you're doing I mean the whole

approach of biohacking is is amazing you

know it's long as long as we keep

open-minded and we don't get locked into

oh there's only one solution or one way

to go yeah you're what you're saying

about time uh people have to realize

that

Consciousness is just like any other

human trait where you have to exercise

it to experience a higher level of it

so it's not just we innately are all the

same and how we experience the world

the people that meditate that connect

that pray that treat their body well

that have healthy DNA and healthy cells

experience a level of Consciousness that

those sitting and smoking and eating

Doritos and not moving and having high

levels of stress and hating their life

won't experience because the The

receptors the mitochondria the DNA the

brain the heart all need to have that

environment and the belief to even

connect in the first place so that

speaks to something like the ability to

experience time differently truly and

this is again this is not a theory this

is proven science the way time actually

operates it's really important it's not

like a judgment it's just that if we

live life that is more toxic yeah the

body to survive see we go back to the

same place the body to survive has to

put more filters right because if out of

10 particles nine are toxic it can it

has to keep nine particles out so we

experience less yeah when we are in a

place where were our bodies in better

shape and what we experience on our

level is more is less toxic less

damaging we can let go of our filters we

can open up yeah circulation we can have

better Insight it's amazing and you

never know when it's going to happen

certain people I'm not included in them

have great opening and they get insights

very very easily certainly people have

to work out at it like that this is my

story and it depends what does it depend

on on our genetics and epigenetics how

what road we took to get to where we are

now for sure yeah but it's it's a and

when we look at ancient cultures you

know we look at it it you know Asian

cultures talking about Karma you know

for me it doesn't matter if it's you

know if it's if it's Hinduism or

Buddhism writes it we come with a

certain certain thing that we got and we

can change it in in Judaism this is a

beautiful saying in Hebrew

which means your ancestor ate unripe

fruit and your teeth are going to Decay

and change color that's totally

epigenetic right so it was known in

different language in multiple cultures

that were you know far apart and uh both

because if some are communicated and

because of quantum entanglement like

like you mentioned so this knowledge is

there and one fascinating things of the

with the world right now

is it with one thing with with Global

Connection that we're able to be

connected to things that in the past we

were not

connected to but it's very important

also to remember now we here we are

talking and we you know we're in the

United States and you know and we live a

good a good life condition when we have

a judgment of other people that we are

better than other people

we lose all this Randomness right there

right yeah that's like the example you

gave so just staying humble

uh and one simple way to do it is just

to tell ourselves what if I'm wrong

what if I'm wrong you know that's like a

real important thing that I I try to to

to remind myself and just there may be a

different opinion

yeah they try to keep the mind as

flexible as we can and the results the

body will also stay as flexible as it

can yeah that's beautiful because that

sense of accountability is really the

opposite of entitlement

it allows you to live a humble life and

have gratitude which is so important for

ongoing longevity and health uh so it's

an important way to think

um in terms of galactin 3 I know we've

been talking about it as something the

body produces in excessive amounts is a

reaction to say inflammatory insults are

there other habits we should think about

that here is the behaviors you want to

avoid because this is where you see

elevated levels that you don't want yeah

of course so anything that caused us

anything that affects our flow so

obviously the same thing that happens

with that helped with so many diseases

you know sleep is a regenerative time so

if we get time if we don't have enough

sleep the body goes into stress it

doesn't have enough regeneration time

you're just going to survival just to

manage being under stress all the time

and for people who have a choice doing

things that we really don't like you

know they find that people work very

hard

like in a stressful environment yeah but

they do something they love

the effect on the body is like they are

relaxing on the beach yeah because it

comes from their heart or is the flow

there is a nourishment and of course

allowing the same thing with our with

our body with our diets and one of the

things that is becoming very popular is

intermittent fasting

intermittent fasting allows ourselves to

regenerate to go into autophagy to clean

up the mess

you know so when we sleep we have a deep

regenerative process

because we really don't understand

what's going on in the brain we

understand the tiny amount of the brain

and when we don't eat

the cell has time for cleanup

and the gut is time for cleanup the mind

is time for cleanup so and then

remembering to breathe

and in the breathing is not only

remembering to inhale

but really remembering to Exhale

to let go

because the one thing that keeps us

flowing

is the breath so the things that flow in

our body is our heart

that we don't have as much control over

in our breath that we have more control

of

so because we have control over the

breath you see breath work in so many

traditions and so many healing systems

right because it creates a flow it

creates a Letting Go it creates a rhythm

and once there is rhythm there is less

turbulence there's less studies there's

less inflammation there's less fibrosis

and within the breath it's when we Excel

we connect with the natural tendency of

the lungs if we paralyze the lungs it

will exhale and empty itself out we need

to make effort to inhale so when we

exhale there is a natural process of

Letting Go and at the end of the

exhalation before we inhale there is a

small space where there's a true letting

go

so it is same Letting Go happens between

our thoughts

but it's very hard to recognize it

because we are trained that one thought

goes after another thought then we fall

asleep we kind of lose Consciousness we

wake up and we are back but so the

breath becomes a tool for us to let go

of the Mind

and then instead of getting caught in

our thought we use the breath again to

bring us to focus you know that's the

importance of mindfulness in the first

step

I'm going back to what you said about

the randomness it's a great example so

we separate between thinking and not

thinking we accept that when we are

thinking we get lost in the thought and

then there's a gap between thought that

is quite right it's very common right

well there is no Randomness there

because we have two very distinct States

so actually the same Letting Go happens

when we think

the same Letting Go happens when we talk

when we do when we can start recognizing

it which is very very rare

you know in a

you would some people will refer it this

as a Divine part within us you know like

we people will say like listen to their

questions we write the Bible says we are

made in the image of God we have this

quality of Freedom within us when we

recognize it and we translate it into

our life

this is where doing and undoing comes

together

and this is what I refer to

earlier on about connecting with our

heart our heart is the organ that allows

us to make this connection

and as such when we assert the

expression of this quality

is unconditional innate love that it's

not easy to come but it's different and

apparent loving a child which is

unconditional to the child but it may

not be unconditional to another child

who beat up your own child you know

unconditionally unconditional the heart

has these properties so we are built

physiologically you probably don't have

time to go over it today but I went over

it in the interview we are

physiologically built every organ every

cell in our body want to take

nourishment and let's go of what he

doesn't want that's Survival the heart

takes all the junk from everybody else

right all the dirty blood connect with

the universe

through the breath and gives us clean

blood without judgment and only once it

gives clean blood it relaxes

the coronary arteries outside of the

heart open up in the heart nourishes

itself

that's the selflessness of the heart

amazing right that is true we have it

because if we have it in our bodies

that's our Central it's a word how can

we can do without right it's this little

miracle sitting inside it so you don't

think about it you don't have to think

about it logically it's doing it it's

doing it's doing it physiologically it's

easier to connect with this mentally

visually and spiritually because yeah

it's much harder to get the mind to stop

running all the time because the mind is

built to stop and analyze right the mind

is not built to create a flow that's

right so hard right but the heart flows

all the time

yeah and the way the like everything you

just said these past couple of minutes

um explains what we know about the heart

and really we have people think of our

brain as being where our thinking

happens

we actually have three brains we have

our brain in our head our heart and our

gut right these are the three areas

where we have neural cells your heart

has 40 million neural cells it's a it's

a mini brain and that's why it can

operate on its own and it doesn't need a

brain to tell it what to do it has its

own so the difference is here up here

Atop The Head is where we have logic

like actual thought there's words that

you process and you decide here in your

heart it's more emotion

right you're still thinking you're still

making decisions but through connection

through you know impact outworthy not

just to yourself then your gut does that

intuition like I have that gut feeling

there's a reason why we say that because

it is a gut feeling your gut is thinking

and telling you something it's just in a

completely different language it's in a

language of intuition which we discount

because again it goes to Fufu science

but no that's your body telling you

something so the more and what's amazing

about what you said you kept saying

things like Let Go remove the thought

the things in between that's all where

the logic stops and the emotion starts

and if you truly are connected at that

level you'll probably make better

decisions that are more mature longer

lasting more impactful that aren't

impulsive that aren't based out of fear

that are based out of like true

whatever's beautiful for everybody

around you if you're thinking with your

heart and that's what this higher level

of Consciousness we're talking about is

trying to get you to right now this is

beautiful really what you're saying and

it's so true the the there is a stage in

life when someone practices this the the

thinking and the talking

comes from the heart you know and when

I'm talking to you and I'm thinking I

feel it here I don't feel it here it

took decades and decades and decades and

it's not that I don't lose it but it's

so true because our survival response is

reactive yeah our heart response is

responsive all that we don't want comes

to the heart the heart connected with

the universe and it responds with love

compassion and nourishment and that's

really that's really our life's journey

that's that's true biohacking that's

really the immortality from the point of

view of connecting with something that

is beginningless and endless right

because it's always moving and no more

immortality is not that we're gonna

physically live forever it's connecting

with this higher level so now I know

there's a lot of interest in micro

dosing and psychedelics and just how can

we change our state of mind and in this

same time we got our most powerful tool

right here in the electromagnetic field

of the heart is 100 times bigger than

the electromagnetic field of the brain

people are not aware so what we feel

here is getting to every cell in our

body and to people around us all the

time

so now I think people can understand why

we needed two interviews last time like

we just got started and we're already

done so this could go on for a long time

so you know there's an amazing

conversation that feel literally feels

like we just started

um there's so much more to talk about so

we'll probably you know connect again to

continue the conversation how do people

get the books I'm sure people are going

to be curious about how to learn more

the book is called the the survival

Paradox they can find it on Amazon okay

and they can also go to drrelias.com

and and join you know join join my

newsletter and where I share a lot of my

thoughts and I have a really good team

of researchers and writers that have

been working with me some of them for 20

years wow well they really know me and

put out we put out a

quality information and I think since

it's the beginning of the year it's

remain it's important to remember

because everything is changeable one of

my favorite saying is not everybody is

going to be a miracle but anyone can be

a miracle yeah that's beautiful well

that's something to Aspire to for sure

uh I wanted to thank you this was

awesome and we definitely have to do

this again sometime soon and finish the

conversation there's more to talk about

uh but thank you everybody take a look

at the book it's amazing you're gonna

just be able to dive in at a higher

level of detail about the things we've

been talking about uh and get to Better

Health so thank you again for joining us

this is great thank you thank you Happy

New Year you too

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