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day one of the reverse autoimmune

disease Summit Series I'm your host Dr

Keisha yours and I'm so incredibly

grateful to guide you on this amazing

journey and I keep trying to say amazing

because it's immersive too

we're going to immerse you in the most

incredible information and I'm really

excited to introduce this to you but

first I want to take a quick moment to

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event could not be possible so let's go

over who you're going to meet today

you're going to meet Dr Isaac Elias who

is talking about the role of toxins in

the survival Paradox and autoimmune

disease how to reset your alarm system

Dr Elias's work is amazing like his book

The survival paradox can be

life-changing for you when you start

thinking about autoimmunity it's a

really beautiful line of supplements

that are helpful in chelating toxins and

buildings strengthen yourself and I I

just

immediately fell in love with his work

so I'm excited for you to meet him Kevin

Ellis is another one he is the bone

coach and he talks about autoimmunity

and the connection to osteoporosis and

how you can build better bones

oftentimes when people are told that

they have osteopenia or osteoporosis

they're told they have to go on

medications that actually have a lot of

long-term deleterious effects and Kevin

gives you some options to that some

Alternatives and then Dr Roland mccrady

he talks about the science and practice

of heart brain coherence he's The

Mastermind behind heart math I have

followed his research for a few decades

now and I'm really excited to bring the

latest work that comes out of the heart

math Institute to you

and how that affects the energy body

Tom McCarthy tapping into your super

conscious healing ability Tom is a

Powerhouse and he works a lot with great

big corporations and individual people

on mindset and how to really affect your

energy body through the way that your

patterns and thought go and again really

happy for you to meet him Tom O'Brien Dr

Tom where does the juice come from

inhaling your energy body probably most

of you have met Dr Tom he's on every

single one of my Summits because he and

I are good friends and I am a fan of Dr

Tom so he's got some new stuff for you

to listen to in this interview that will

again give you a new perspective on your

role in reversing autoimmune disease and

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really know what's working for you and

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and then I'm going to talk to you about

solving your autoimmune puzzle because

each of you is an individual and I

really want to help you be able to

understand that and how to find the best

information that fits you and your own

autoimmune puzzle because you are worth

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day one with you enjoy welcome back to

the reverse autoimmune disease Summit

everybody this is of course version 5.0

we're talking about healing the energy

body

I am so happy to bring to you Dr Isaac

Elias who is an expert in the field of

Integrative Medicine focusing on cancer

detoxification immunity and complex

conditions of all kinds he's a respected

physician a researcher best-selling

author educator and Mind Body

practitioner he partners with leading

research institutes including Harvard

the National Institutes of Health

Columbia and others to co-author studies

on integrative therapies for cancer

heavy metal toxicity and other things

he's the founder and medical director of

amitaba medical clinic in Santa Rosa

California where he's pioneered the use

of therapeutic apheresis as an

adjunctive blood filtration treatment

for chronic degenerative conditions

Welcome to The Summit Series Dr Elias

thank you so much for having me I'm

really excited to talk about this

such an important topic yes

yeah I I would love to hear first how

you came to this body of research

everyone has their own unique story and

I would love to hear yours yeah yes yes

so my journey with healing started very

early when I say very early it's a

teenager my father was a civil engineer

I'm a native of Israel we were in South

Korea and I got exposed there to

taekwondo I was lucky I I practiced with

the Korean national team because they

had to learn English

and there was like all the world

champions I I learned yoga and I got

export to to Buddhism indirectly by

going to to local Buddhist temples

I was like oh

a Buddhist uh the Buddha in the top of

Tara's Top Notch so I I really wanted to

hear where that came from so yeah so

this is not from there but later on so

when I went to medical school in Israel

which is six years in in the one year

internship I knew I'm gonna do

integrative medicine so I got trained I

became a yoga teacher I taught in yoga

teachers course I learned shiatso I

learned three years acupuncture I

started teaching acupuncture with the

Hebrew University to doctors so as a

graduate from medical school I hit this

other expertise and then I left

everything and my wife Gideon my

daughter

uh we came to San Francisco I did a

master of science in Chinese medicine

and this I was meditating all my life

but at this point I got very involved

with with Buddhism

and my specialties through Chinese

medicine first and through integrative

medicine has been the treatment of

cancer

for decades and difficult to treat

illnesses because when you really look

at if you're treating the person and not

the illness then everything is possible

and then I got very unusual training in

meditation with the focus on healing so

I spent a

I spent almost 20 years I would go every

year for two months to the mountains to

meditate and for 10 years I spent half a

day on retweet every day working and

it's a privilege to treat some of the

greatest uh meditation Masters in the

Himalaya and so I got to learn from them

one-on-one and I got to see their power

of healing like how they can

spontaneously heal in a way that you

can't

you can't really explain

and all of this came together into this

body of knowledge that I that I that it

is expressed in my finally I wrote a

book in my early 60s called the survival

Paradox and in addition I am an

innovator and a researcher so I've been

a very Avid and active researcher so the

main compound that I developed pictosol

has over like 80 published papers I have

a I have a number of NIH grants on the

research on galactin 3 removal and

sepsis so I've I've held both worlds and

uh interesting from a scientific point

of view got really involved with

Galactic 3 early on in this discovered

its role in inflammation and fibrosis

only later on I understand it I

understood it the survival Paradox

protein and what drive for example

autoimmunity is an upstream a molecule

and then through therapeutic affairs

easiest way I treat people outside the

body through filtration of the plasma

and through the eye through the concept

of meditation where you really

understand that if we let go then

everything is possible and all of this

is great relevance for health in general

but specifically for autoimmunity

let's back up a little bit about the

survival Paradox can you talk a little

bit about this

yes I'll be I'll be I'll be happy to

talk about it so the survival Paradox as

it sound is a paradox because we all

want to survive we are built to survive

as people as communities as Nations and

every organ in our new body every cell

in our body so because it's built within

us multi-generational then it's an

automated innate quality we have so

immediately it happens through the

autonomic nervous system so the

sympathetic system we either

fight which then drives inflammation so

it's very important especially in the

field of autoimmunity we know that

inflammation relates to autoimmunity

into arthritis into so many things but

inflammation is not the cause actually

inflammation is really a result so what

I'm offering in this concept is a new

paradigm shift where we're looking at a

deeper level of causality so we either

fight cause inflammation and then it

will drive all the cytokine storm

so and we'll talk about it in a moment

or we flight we run away we hide and we

create fibrosis

both are driven by our Survival Products

both are driven by the Survival Products

protein galactin-3

so when we understand this we suddenly

have an upstream approach that can

affect inflammation regulate it and one

of the issues with the survival response

is that we have this sympathetic

response where we can just relax take a

deep breath and the system can relax but

we have a biochemical response and

that's where galactin 3 comes in in the

biochemical response turns within

minutes and that's a lot of my current

research that is supported by the NIH

I've shown that in a in sepsis models

that galactin-3 will rise before

interlooking 6. before the cytokine

storms and it's Well published that

gal83 drives all the different cytokines

but when we block electing three or we

remove it we attenuate il-6 we attenuate

kidney kidney damage and the animals in

the model don't die when people walk in

the ICU with sepsis the level without

precondition pre-existing conditions

which means no kidney disease no heart

disease no cancer their level of

galactin 3 at the time of admission will

determine who will die from sepsis so

this violent inflamma inflammatory storm

that is a result of an infection is very

similar to what you what happened in

autoimmunity why because autoimmunity is

an inappropriate survival response and

in this sense it has great relevance for

our topic

so how it's galactin 3 measured

so Galactic 3 is a very simple essay

it's an Elisa essay it's approved by

every insurance and it's done by every

lab it's underused and for people who

know about Galactic 3 is somebody who

probably has more clinical experience

with it than anybody and

the standards for Galactic 3 were set in

very early on around 2 10 to 11. when

the test was manual and it was done

specifically for patients with

congestive heart failure

in this patient because often their

kidneys have some damage galactically is

much higher so the standards for normal

level of galactin 3 is much lower than

people are aware of if yoga Latin 3 is

over 12 it's already a concern and the

levels change based on our genetics

based on our mmp9s how we break

different protein because galactin 3 can

come in a single protein molecule or it

can come in pentameres five of them but

both of them are counted as one

by the essay so you really can't rely on

the number in Galactic 3 the survival

protein it has an important role in the

embryonal stage it helps keep normal

kidney development normal organ

development mainly intra-nuclear

but then when we are living our life

it protects Us by repairing our injuries

and it does it through inflammation and

fibrosis

and this process is destructive in every

field so if we look at Galactic 3

research

and just to get a cent close to 10

000 published papers ten thousand we

look at the mCP

modification which is made from the

appeal of the Citrus and modified and is

able to block Galactus with about 80

papers we look at the benefits we see

cardiovascularities we see stroke we see

liver we see lung we see kidney we see

Nash we see immunity within integrative

care with cancer therapies why

yes yes when it's blocked you stop this

damaging process of Galactic interior

will cause because once it's turned on

is like an alarm that doesn't turn off

so this is in general and it's very very

specific

when we look at it from the point of

view of autoimmunity

and how do you block it

so you block it uh you block it in a few

ways

in the biochemical

in the biochemical level it's very

simple you use you know you use

something called modify with respecting

the one research is called pecto salt

and what it does the Galatians 3 has

what we call is carbohydrate recognition

domain it's a it's a sugar binding

protein or carbohydrate binding protein

not glucose but other carbohydrate it it

delivers different ligands that causes

hyper viscosity inflammation growth

factors to the tissue that it's in that

is injured and that's how it causes its

damage so it feels that there is a

damage it drives to the tissue it binds

to the ligand and it creates a

pentameron and then it creates a lattice

formation literally a coating you know

the biofilm biofilm for example which we

are going to slow you down I want to

slow you down because I want people to

be able to follow this

so uh

for galactin 3 because it's carbohydrate

binding and it uses I'm seeing if I've

got this right it uses carbohydrate then

to create that Matrix of damage right

right but not it binds to different

ligands and then when one and then it

creates a Penta Maya it can also bind to

the membranes but then this Pentium I

think about it I mean there are five of

them think about five of them and

another five and another five they

create a coating around the cell so

sugar gives it what it needs the the

sugar in the protein the sugar in the in

the in the lipids the sugar in the

oligosaccharides many of them have you

know glycoprotein glycolipids there is

very often very common to have a a

carbohydrated sugar component on

proteins on lipids and on definite and

on different damaging molecules

so when it creates this

biofilm this coating

then it creates a separation between the

tissue that is being coated

in the body so you you will get what you

what you will call a micro environment

which is often hypoxic where oxygen

doesn't get to it or it changes the

metabolism for example if Galactic 3

comes to a tissue

or or if the area is inflammatory in the

macrophage the cells the immune cells

that clean

the tissues in the body that cleans the

damage in the body become inflammatory

then they will also excrete galactin-3

it will block

insulin receptors on the cell so now the

cell metabolism is no longer normal and

without going into the biochemistry the

mitochondria will stop working you get

an acidic environment with lactic acid

you get damage to the tissue you get

destructive tissue and this is a

mechanism for cancer right cancer cannot

use oxygen but it's also the mechanism

in autoimmunity

so if we look specifically at

autoimmunity from a philosophical point

of view and we ask what is autoimmunity

autoimmunity is really

a part of us

attacking ourselves

and you know we actually don't recognize

the interdependence and Harmony between

all the parts of our body in a certain

part goes into a survival mode

and attacks out of a survival mode and

that's why in autoimmunity across all

autoimmunity diseases you see very high

levels of galactin 3

in the blood that is interesting if you

look for example at the effect of

modified prospecting on arthritis

so if it's osteoarthritis it's not

certainly a survival response somebody

can have a great lifestyle and they

jogged 50 miles a week altogether for 50

years their needs are going to give up

you know it's called osteoarthritis but

if somebody has rheumatoid arthritis

then the benefits of modified

introspecting or blocking galactin 3 in

relationship to the Baseline if they

didn't do it becomes a much more

dramatic so until now we focused on the

biochemical

the other parts of really changing it is

by switching the way we live our life

from a survival mode

to a Harmony mode and we are built to do

this and this is why as you know so well

lifestyle plays such a big role in

autoimmunity like autoimmunity is one

category where diets are so important

because you are changing the metabolism

so you got your dietary changes you've

got your lifestyle changes you've got

hydration

and

the starting point is you've got to

address Galactic three that's why

addressing Galactic me in my opinion

it's the most important supplement one

can use because it drives if you look at

the data it drives practically every

chronic disease

so

in

outside of diet is there anything else

that increases galactin Theory

yeah galactin 3 will increase with

stress yeah

for example you look at patient post

heart attack am I the Galaxy 3 goes up

if you play music to them in the ICU

they're Galactic three levels will go

down and as a result the damage to the

tissue will go down oh fascinating right

so this is what the other part of what I

do what I teach is called open heart

medicine if we can move from our head

from our concept from our reactivity to

our heart

then this is a bigger shift that can

really heal us and not surprisingly

collecting three is especially damaging

for fibrotic type heart failure

because they when Galactic 3 creates a

lattice formation when

it creates this separation it creates

separation you know it creates

divisiveness so right now we live in a

society where we are so you know it's so

easy to get self-absorbed with so much

tension and so much in the speed of

media and information and political

separation and yes vaccine no vaccine

and yes mask and no mess we lost the

ability to hear

the other side

so the how it doesn't function in this

way the heart in this sentence if we

have time we'll talk about it a little

bit in detail the heart function

definitely different than any organ in

the body and in this Sense on one end

you have a very simple supplement

and the other hand you have really

um

a paradigm shift in the way we live our

life and we experience reality and both

of them

we'll end up with a benefiting

similar conditions

you know it's interesting I I spent um

a couple of months in India years ago

and I was getting my master's degree in

ayurvedic medicine and one of the

experiments I chose to engage in

was at lunchtime every day I would take

my music and I would I had a little

um

Scholastic notebook and I would do my

pulse diagnosis and measure where I was

before I listened to a certain kind of

music during the music and after the

music and I recorded my pulse response

and so an ayurvedic medicine the pulse

has many many different layers and it's

more than just your heart rate and and I

found that the one kind of music that

would instantly put me into balance and

so that's an individual

um implementation I'm curious when you

say play music in the ICU it's one of

the questions as a conscious dying Doula

I remember talking to my parents and

saying what kind of music would you want

to listen to if you were in a coma and

my dad telling me he wanted to listen to

Jazz so when he died last year in in the

ICU I put Jazz next to his ear but I

knew that because I'd asked him so I'm

curious what you you know when you say

play music that's a very large you know

Spectrum there is there certain music

that you've studied that actually

decreases galactin 3

you know it's not only Galaxy it's a

great question and and I and you're you

know I'm I'm highly training Chinese

medicine so I rely on pulse diagnosis

yes it's really some the conversation is

the preparation for the pulse uh so you

know it's very individual which is very

important because we often want to

impose things that

are good for us on other people right

each one is their own thing but there is

something about the rhythmic about

about the pace or something about uh you

know about the the kind of music their

musics are more based on the five

elements you know more than five sounds

are there more every different balancing

but in general any music that makes a

person very relaxed

and create space within them because

the our healing journey and it's so

relevant for autoimmunity but for every

disease our healing journey is the

injury is a journey of Letting Go that's

really what life is about so we come to

this world

we let go we exhale and cry we leave

this world we take our last exhalation

and we let go and hold our life it's

about not about trying to go back to the

letting go when we think about something

when we focus when we have an opinion we

are holding to something we lose the

recognition that everything is

changeable and in this sense every

permanent exam is like the basis right

of of the of the Asian spiritual uh

during this time I'm I'm staying more

like General without yeah prominence but

obviously we're letting go exactly

so if we look at now we look into our

body and we recognize wow

we have close to I'm rounding up a

little bit 50 trillion sales in Dubai

not million not billion trillion

in each cell and I didn't know until I

looked it up has between hundreds of

thousands and million reactions

a second

just imagine okay

and we are still alive we're still

talking right now that's totally a

miracle and the reason is that our body

recognized that it is working as a whole

so while every cell wants to survive

because every cell has a membrane a

boundary and every cell decides what it

takes in

and what it puts out right just like we

do what we're gonna eat we're gonna

breathe you know

Etc and but the cell recognizes that it

has a relationship with its environment

when it loses this

recognition when it Go want to go into

an individualized survival response he

said I'm not gonna die I'm not going to

isolate myself from the environment

create my own nourishment change my

metabolism when this happens this is

what you call a cancer cell and this is

also what you call an autoimmune cell

that decides to be independent becomes

inflammatory and starts attacking people

in a different way then cancer does

because it can quickly have a systemic

effect than if necessary to expand

itself locally but it's very seems it's

a very similar approach the only organ

that functions differently that takes

all the toxins from the perspective of

the cells everything that comes to it

from the past because when it gets to

the heart it's already been released by

the cells with our heart and our heart

instead of creating a membrane and

deciding what comes in connects with the

universe to our lungs and we can see

some autoimmune diseases that are lung

kidney related like like good good good

good posture and other diseases we

connect with the universe our drama for

the universe is insignificant yes exit

in and that's why we have to respect our

universe when the universe becomes toxic

it doesn't heal us anymore

and then what does the how do it gives

blood without discrimination

because the author is the stiff or stiff

artery and it's an image that I

discovered and I share it because it wow

for me every time the first organs the

heart nourishes is itself

because the heart now it says itself in

order to nourish others and is part of

nourishing others and that's why there

is such profound healing in connecting

with it because as you said we connect

with the impermanence because the heart

doesn't stop thinking the moment the

heart stops it stops the flow that

everything is changeable

we are dead yeah and in this sense we

know it like in meditation and healing

Retreats the autoimmune patients are the

ones which will have a very dramatic

response because they move out of the

survival response so this survival

response is basic we all fall into it I

fall into it everybody is listening

folding to it it's part of our existence

so transforming it and freeing it in the

deepest deepest healing that is not so

easy to come by but prior to it we have

to say how do we reduce

the survival situation

and that's what you mentioned by diet

good hydration

lifestyle and we have to be aware what

is driving us into survival so one of

the biggest areas

is the toxins and pesticides and every

metals and mycotoxins they and feelings

of not feeling safe I've noticed that in

all my autoimmune patients completely

because safety allows survival to melt

when we feel safe

we don't need to survive so for example

yep if you look at Hawaii in Hawaii

there is great Harmony it's called

Paradise so in Hawaii the plants are

very friendly they they are not

aggressive playing they don't need to

for example highways bees is a hobby

I used to waste many years and I see it

is a great image of selflessness because

this specific bee

is part of a bigger Community it's

beautiful it's really what we talked

about but I had some Queens who came

from Hawaii and they didn't survive in

Sonoma County in California

because they were used to this very

harmonious environment you know so our

survival so the more we can shift to

this harmonious response

the more our body will heal and become

addition it's not only the diseases go

away our quality of life improves

and so we see through aging for example

centurions have a lower level of

galactin 3 compared to the people in the

70s and 80s despite the fact that the 70

80 includes some people who are going to

become centarians hmm so that's another

example so yeah so understanding this

not only from a conceptual but in my

book The Survival Products I explain it

and then I go through a Galaxy 3 and

then I go what it does metabolically

inflammation circulation and then how

the heart can can change it and then

which is really the survival of the

heart is to keep nourishing us without

discrimination that's why it's such a

big healer in every tradition you know

yes and when we realize it and then I go

through every group of diseases

including autoimmunity when I explain

and then what to do so we really need to

address the issue of detoxification

on a both on a constant level

and in more periodical focus and I

already ayurveda is one of the ultimate

detox system because it's much more than

a one-way cookie cutter you know it

takes into consideration Constitution

and environment and weather and time of

the year and age that are often not

taken in in straightforward no

formulaic detoxification and in my book

in the chapter on detoxification which I

will offer also to the summit people

this chapter it's a it's important to

understand the detox process is magical

and it's happening all the time every

time we Excel we detox every time we

inhale we nourish and our exhalation is

twice as long as our inhalation

so it detox more than we know it and

then the transformation happened in

between so when we look at it from a

poetic view point of view or a

physiological point of view we can bring

it all the way to the cellular level to

the membrane all the way to the

mitochondria because it's a mitochondria

if the cell inside feel threatened in

survival then hypoxia-inducing Factor

jumps up M21 goes up

a you know uh you know a pie of it

kindness pdk gets activated no pyruvate

can get into the mitochondria you don't

produce energy through through aerobic

metabolism and you're going to a very

inefficient

disease-driving metabolism so there are

so many layers and if we recognize it we

each can find in our own Journey just

like you said what works for us with

very simple things like we've got to

address

Galaxy 3 and you know I've quietly

researched it for decades and didn't

spend the time explaining it but now

after almost 30 years of research I feel

comfortable talking about it more and

also how do we change our life like can

we close our eyes and feel who how

somebody who has an opposing opinion to

us feel and we can we can we accept it

and say look it comes from their set of

genetics epigenetics belief system and

even if I don't agree with it

and even if objectively I don't think

it's supported that's their reality and

how do we breach how do we bridge and

once we bridge and we have a flow then

the joint space is not inflamed

and autoimmunity just melts away

I think this is a very important point

that you're making because in the field

of humanity the grid that we all belong

to

when you know the the ecosystem that has

its own boundary and begins to have a

life of its own like cancer we're doing

that with one another when we become

polarized so you know the energetic grid

that we're all part of

we need to learn how to do what you just

said where people can accept and and

learn to see differing opinions as just

a balance inside of the energetic field

instead of something that makes them

feel unsafe because I'm seeing that

that's a lot of what's going on

politically people feel unsafe you know

when someone's expressing an opinion

that's different than theirs instead of

you know uh saying oh that's just

another thought construct you know it's

just another thought construct

and you know when when that feeling of

not being safe because other people

think differently than you do that just

makes you sick and it makes our society

sick so there's no

there's no positive outcome to that way

of being

right you know it's so what you brought

safety

is a fundamental shift

yeah it's the whole body relaxes and one

of the easiest ways to do it

is to take a few deep breaths because

the moment we have more oxygen in our

body

the cells can relax the moment we're not

oxygenated well

the cells go into a crisis

in different organs of course as you

know well from ayurvedic minutes

different organs will reflect in

different ways and different emotions

you know not a functional doctors not

necessarily have this understanding like

pure biochemical

functional doctors but we are not

biochemistry biochemistry is an

expression of who we are yes and we

really have a choice you know there's a

beautiful saying in Hebrew which I like

actually to quote in Hebrew of them it

says

which means everything is predetermined

that's our genetics

we have the choice that's our

epigenetics and moving from survival to

safety

is a choice it's a choice that sometimes

is easier to do and you're in a very

peaceful place and it's more challenging

to do when in difficult times but we

internally always have a choice and

sometimes we are successful sometimes we

are not everything is impermanent but

the good news we can change our response

in the next breath yes the next thought

and if we do it long enough

Suddenly It's inflammatory markers start

coming down

because they're driving force is going

down now when I say driving force of

Galactic 3 if you look at my research in

sepsis

uh you will see in in the animal's

sepsis model that galactin-3 goes up

only doubles

interlocking six will go up a thousand

fold

thousand foot because you need a very

small change at the top to create a

whole waterfall of Cascades of of

cytokine and that's why trying to change

the cytokine it's a battle

um the losing propositions like putting

a bucket in a waterfall and trying to

make sure it doesn't get the flow wet

yeah you can shut it at the top no water

is going to come down you know

and your term of safety is one doorway

which is which is a big way part of

safety is acceptance if we accept things

we usually don't accept

we feel more safe because we're not

threatened

and if we can change the reactivity to

responsiveness by understanding like you

said where people come from and instead

of getting upset about it we open our

love of our heart that's like the heart

nourishes the heart gets all the

junk and he doesn't say oh my God no

it's just

suddenly we have a responsiveness

of love and compassion it transforms

that and I see it in retreats in a few

days I see it in myself when I'm in the

right space it's amazing how my health

will will transform itself you know I

can tell you it's what helped me get

through covid quicker I'm on day eight

of covid right now and in the first

three days I was pretty pretty sick and

just seeing the virus as an act of love

that is there to teach me about

impermanence and having compassion for

impermanence itself and The Human

Condition

it it transformed everything rather than

Contracting around

fear and anxiety and you know all of

those things it was just a constant

bringing back to recognition that

everything that I label not love

is actually not true you know everything

is love bringing it to the heart you

know I'm pulling that through with every

single thought which is a choice with

every breath and you know letting go of

any clinging to things being different

and that I I

got better pretty quickly so

yeah I think that that's a really

powerful way of of getting better and

now I can

see what was going on you know it's

remarkable because what happened when

you did it you moved away from the

survival fear feared like survival well

the spiking protein the spike protein of

the virus is practically identical gets

to what to collecting three the virus

also wants to survive the highest

density of Galactic three receptors is

in the lungs so if we look at Covent

the level of Galactic 3 a time of

admission in the emergency room

regardless of the extent of the disease

in the lungs or the severity of the

illness will determine who will end up

in the ICU and who will die very good

loud study from from Mexico City done

already in 2020 so when you look at

something in the blocks galactin 3 you

both have the attenuation

of the cytokine stone any of the

blockage of galactin 3. now what you did

you had the capacity in the training you

know it's one thing to think like this

you know catch catch 22 I read it in my

book you know it's a it's a the flow of

Catch 22 it can think like this but

inside we don't feel like this you're

able to feel like this so your process

came from the inside

out yes and as it went through all your

cells you created space within your

cells you know I was I told you my story

about getting sick 45 minutes before

teaching a seven day Retreat 250 people

who are in the big hole

and after two and a half years in Israel

and I just let go

and two days later I was antigenegative

and I was quite sick my gosh because I

talked today before to a few hundred

people in one day and so yes it's the

power of Letting Go and it's challenging

because it's contradictory to our

survival drive

and the benefit of practice you know

this is the place where practice

kind of comes forward and you get the

fruits of it totally yeah and then it's

an honest you know I know we all know

it's an ongoing process yeah it's a

process there is no there is no end spot

you keep moving because the moment you

freeze oh my God look at my meditation

look at my mind and you hold to it

it's no longer flowing no if you turn

the water into ice

so the approach as long as we flow and

we don't hold then we have the power of

healing and one of my favorite sayings

that I often use is not everybody is

going to be a miracle but anyone can be

a miracle because everything is

changeable and it's because everything

is changeable in its in its essence you

know quantum physics knows the

understanding of reality knows it we

can't hold to time

and time comes from all Direction I

don't want to get into this but actually

time can also come come from the future

right do my healing work and I teach

meditation it's a big component but as

long as we realize it then everything is

possible and if the if the tissue and

the trauma and the pesticides and the

heavy metals it caused a reaction in a

certain tissue in a certain that created

an immune response can be turned off

you we can see a change in autoimmunity

and in this sense you know there's a lot

of views now of IVIG

you know in autoimmunity

I use therapeutic of fairiesis because

I'm a disrupter in the field it's

whatever grants and a lot of inventions

I'm working on the development of a

column that will remove all galactines

way out but right now I'm moving more

inflammatory compounds and what happens

when you change the environment of the

plasma

after the first treatment it's very

interesting everybody does like one

treatment like once a week or whatever

and you do another one very close by two

days later you would think wow the

plasma is really cleaned right no there

is much more dumped into the waste bag

because the tissue is letting go so when

we reduce the inflammation in the blood

in the plasma a little bit in the tissue

we move the body just like you said the

tissue from

Survivor to safety and suddenly for

example the liver even if it's

challenged and doesn't have 100 capacity

we cleaned the backup for the liver it

can finally do its daily work with a

little bit of help and suddenly the

tissue changes and we change so that's

so so again therapeutical phrase is more

of an extreme treatment it's expensive

it's specialized filter with similar to

dialysis it's a real specialty but the

concept is similar the more the more you

can move into the safety role

the more you can create space and hold

it long enough

eventually as you know the tissue is

going to change

that's beautiful

I I think that the what we're talking

about is a little antithetical in

people's minds to

what they're trying to achieve in terms

of survival

and you know that becomes I I can see

why you call it the paradox

in in the quantum cell of time you know

the the one that was conceived and the

one that will die is all together in a

Cell of time not linear but all

available right there and you know the

more that you can heal any places that

the young one didn't feel safe then the

future one is healthier so right so it's

but it feels so like with coven for me

um Letting Go Letting Go letting go it's

like practicing dying

practicing letting go

I think that's an important practice

that we don't in our culture ever land

on we have to you are getting into deep

Waters I mean we are getting to

Deepwater so I talk a lot about it

sometimes I know you and I I want to

have tea with you

correct and often you you're not allowed

to talk you know I talked in America in

a cancer control Society the very

alternative

conference for for for cancer with all

the clinics for Mexico and I used to

lecture there in the 90s and I talked

about medicinal mushrooms which was like

the new thing and then I took off my

jacket and I thought I told people you

know I want to talk a little bit about

death and dying yeah and I was pulled

off the stage after three minutes but

dozens of people came for the little bit

I spoke and said thank you so much so

the more we let go the longer and

healthier we live let him go in order

for something new to come the old thing

has has to die

longevity is how different you are every

second

otherwise we can live a hundred years

and we had a very short life or we can

be Mozart we live 30 years and had an

endless life the people are still

celebrating you know so this is why time

is so illusory but on a practical level

we also discussed some very uh practical

you know advice on the level of course

we you know you know we can go into

greater detail about it in our second

interview but it's a it's it's for me

and you know I I wasn't as aware that I

got a great partner I can't often talk

about it it's how I live my life you

know for decades but you are really

bringing to the Forefront and you know

in this more simplified language that

I'm able to so I I thank you for

bringing YouTube

this is really where ultimate healing

happens

yeah that's really an ultimate healing

happens in the heart

and that's why there is relative healing

and there's ultimate healing but the

more we are connected to this place the

relative healing will happen anyway

because as you said

in the quantum example Future Past it's

all the same whatever like you said is

profound sentence that you recognize

with the with the coffee because it's a

great letting go is that everything is

love

because love is an expression of this

essence of we call it emptiness in

Buddhism or impermanence or the divine

within us you know that's the expression

within our body when we go into our

thought our ego our struggle we get

disconnected so many people are

disconnected I get disconnected with all

my training when we connect with the

heart the heart is always connected the

electric the electromagnetic field of

the heart is a hundred times bigger than

the brain you know it gets to every cell

in our body

so when you connected with love every

cell in your body was getting love and

hug and compassion and safety and people

around us get it we can feel right when

somebody's up connects to the global

heart takes each other exactly and

that's really

that's really the medicine for the how

for the world yeah and often I say wow

why am I talking about it you know when

I was in the Himalayas and I don't go

into the countries for political

purposes and these great teacher said

look you got to talk about it in the

future of the way said what are they

talking about I'm like this Israeli

Jewish guy but when it's very dark if

it's more light it really shines you

know

so I think within this time of

divisiveness just like the in and young

there is always an option but if we push

the push the the rubber band too much it

is going to get cut you know yeah see it

right there with the environment with

the inflammation in the environment what

is global warming it's inflammation on a

global scale right

and it's a reflection of our own inner

processes

and so these are quite some times for

the world it's

worry someone one level and exciting in

the other level because we can make

such a difference you know I agree Dr

Alias it's been a very big pleasure and

I appreciate the honor of being able to

talk to you and I we have another

interview coming and I'm very much

looking forward to it so thank you thank

you so much

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everybody we're talking about healing

the energy body this time which is of

course everything so we're talking about

energy and how it pertains to Cellular

reproduction of the cells that are

needed for every aspect of living and

then we're also talking about the energy

body that lies next to the physical body

that has the most emotional body after

it and that's influencing how your

genetics are expressing it's influencing

your lifestyle choices and in this talk

what you're going to discover is also

influencing your bone health so my guest

today is Kevin Ellis better known as

bone coat she's a Forbes featured

certified Integrative Nutrition health

coach a podcaster a YouTuber a bone

health Advocate and he's the founder of

bonecoach.com after an osteoporosis

diagnosis in his early 30s he realized

just how challenging it can be for the

average person to make sense of what

needs to be done to improve and how to

move forward confidently with stronger

bones today not only has he transformed

his own health and made continued

progress on his own Journey he's now

dedicated his life to helping women with

osteopenia and osteoporosis gain Clarity

and confidence that improving is

possible and when we are just off air I

was talking about how the the levels uh

incidence of osteoporosis in men is

really growing and we'll talk about why

that is through a unique three-step

process in a world-class coaching

program called stronger bone solution

Kevin and his team of credentialed

experts have helped people in over 1500

plus cities around the world get

confident and their stronger bones plan

his mission is to not just help over one

million plus people around the globe

build stronger bones but it's to help

our children and grandchildren have the

education resources and nourishment

needed to prevent osteoporosis and other

diseases in the future so that they can

lead long active lives welcome to this

series Kevin thanks so much for having

me it's great to be here I'm excited you

know this is such a great topic because

uh it's so common and so many people

aren't getting tested for it

so I'd like to start off if you don't

mind uh maybe first defining the

difference between osteopenia and

osteoporosis let's get some foundational

definitions and then if we can move to

your personal story because it's so

compelling

yeah no and that's so osteoporosis

literally means porous bone right and

it's a condition that's characterized by

there not enough bone formation you've

got excessive bone loss or it's a

combination of the two of those things

and an osteoporosis both your bone

density and your bone quality are

reduced and the way you find out you

have osteoporosis is through what's

called a dexa scan or bone density scan

and it's a painless test kind of like an

x-ray very low levels of radiation

though you lay down on the machine it

does a scan and then it tells you your

bone mineral density the actual mineral

content of your bone and then what it

does is it generates this score and that

score is called a t-score and the t

score is telling you how much your bone

mass differs from the bone mass of a

healthy approximately 30 year old adult

if you're plus one or minus one or

somewhere in there that's considered

normal and healthy if you're minus one

to minus 2.5 that's considered

osteopenia which is like a precursor to

osteoporosis and then if your minus 2.5

or lower so minus 2.6 2.7 so on and so

forth that's considered osteoporosis now

the greater that negative number becomes

the more severe the osteoporosis now

most people and we were talking about

this like you said most people that are

getting this are they're women 50 60

sometimes maybe not even getting them at

that point but they're getting them as a

check in the box their doctors are

ordering them but in my opinion that's

too late right is so if you're listening

to this and you haven't had a bone

density scan yet we're going to talk

about the reasons why this would be

important but you're going to want to

get a bone density scan because number

one you don't want to avoid doing

something just because you don't want to

get the answer to it and then also you

can't address something until you're

aware of it so

you know uh this is really important

because a lot of times people won't do

scanning checking testing if their

insurance won't pay for it and sometimes

your insurance won't reimburse for dexa

skin unless you are at a certain age or

you're on certain meds or you have a

comorbid diagnosis that can cause it and

I would just say please don't worry

about any of that and be willing to pay

out of pocket for this for sure for sure

and and like you were like you were just

saying it'll usually be at you know a

certain age 65 70 is is when you're

going to be getting those scans unless

your doctor you've got a doctor that is

you know on The Cutting Edge and they're

like let's do it earlier

but even then when you get that bone

density scan you're only going to get

another one one or two years later so

sometimes it is best to go to an

external Radiology Group and sometimes

you can get these bone density scans for

75 100 125 dollars out of pocket

sometimes which

um that that might be the way to go yeah

and I do it if I've done

as autoimmunity and you know I always

talk about the four corner pieces of the

puzzle where each unique puzzles and one

of the corner pieces of the puzzle I

look at is toxic burden and so sometimes

you know people thought immunity have

got things like heavy metal toxicity and

if I'm doing a provoked heavy metal test

and and I'm chelating Metals out of the

storage containers which are bone

then I know I'm actually removing it's

sort of like Wolverine and X-Men right

I'm removing what's in that bone and so

then I send them for a dead side like

okay let's see what's let's see what

your bone matrix looks like without

heavy metals being stored in there and

what can we do to now generate healthy

matrices in there

so that's another place where you know

those of you that are listening you know

think about that if you've had heavy

metal chelation you need to be going in

for a dexa

yeah absolutely and one other thing

about heavy metals too is that uh lead

specifically you know stored in the bone

and a lot of times when women hit

menopause and they have that decrease in

estrogen that happens in post-menopausal

women estrogen has this protective

effect on bone when those levels

decreases they do during menopause it

causes an increase in the activity level

of cells that break down bone and a lot

of times what happens is if you had that

lead stored up in your bone and you

start to have that bone loss you can

almost have like this Auto intoxication

that takes place so is that almost you

will yeah no you will I mean you will

absolutely have that so and that's what

causes some of like the badiness the

cognitive decline the lack of mood

stability the inability to sleep like

some of those things that are just

attributed to well you're going through

menopause right that's actually those

are symptoms of heavy metal toxicity

because these metals are being removed

from your bone by Nature as you're going

through your bone resorption time right

and the the metals are being leached out

and it's getting back in front of your

brain again yeah yeah

and that's and that's really the that's

what we would consider the primary cause

of osteoporosis when you think about the

types of osteoporosis primary

osteoporosis is it's that decrease in

estrogen and post-menopausal women right

that has a protective effect on bone

then when those levels decrease you have

that bone loss that takes place

um but there's a whole other cause of

osteoporosis and this is one that a lot

of people don't realize is and it's

called secondary osteoporosis and that's

where osteoporosis occurs as a result of

behaviors disorders diseases medications

and other factors and a really important

point I want to make is just because

you're a post-menopausal woman does not

mean that as the sole cause of your bone

loss there could be another cause Beyond

just hormones we don't want to make

assumptions you have to make objective

decisions so that's super super

important

well and like we mentioned and I want to

steer it back to your own personal story

is that

this isn't just post-menopausal women

this is also I was telling I was telling

Kevin off air everybody that I feel like

I'm the lone provider in the world

that's sending men off to dexa scans as

often as I'm sending women you know

because and what I'm finding because

it's it's considered a woman's health

problem osteoporosis because of a lack

of estrogen so to your point there are

all kinds of other reasons that we get

osteoporosis so we'll talk about things

like Celiac and I'm finding that also

the number of estrogen mimicking and

reproducing chemicals that are dumped in

our environment that are making men take

on estrogen that that's affecting their

bones too so they're so they're becoming

estrogen dominant a lack of testosterone

is also creating bone loss for them

absolutely and I'm finding this kind of

fascinating because probably out of all

women that I send to get their bones

bone density checked I would say 70 five

percent come back with some problem and

I would say uh 50 of men do

that's that's pretty close you know yeah

and I I just want all of you women that

are listening to think about your loved

ones your your male loved ones and don't

leave them out of the loop on this

because their doctors aren't sending

them in no they're absolutely not so if

I look at our entire Community tens and

tens of thousands of people if I look at

our entire community and we I've got

about 95 percent women in that Community

but I have about five percent men and we

have men that we work with that we help

that have osteoporosis and it's

um there are a lot of different reasons

why they could have that right so let's

even just talk through those too why uh

what are some of those secondary

conditions actually before I get into

secondary conditions let's talk about

Peak bone mass because this is a

contributor to people getting an

osteoporosis diagnosis down the road and

what Peak bone mass is is about eight uh

ninety percent of your your bone mass is

put on by the time you turn age 18. and

by the time you turn 30 that remaining

10 approximately fills in so that's

about as full as your bucket's going to

be if when you were younger you had poor

diet nutrition and eating disorder you

smoked or drank excessively you let a

sedentary lifestyle uh you you took

certain exactly

inhaler you took certain medications

we'll talk about those in a minute too

right if you had those those could have

been things that worked against you in a

time where you were trying to reach Peak

bone mass so if you did not have a bone

density scan early like I always

encourage people to get them in their

30s or 40s so if you're listening you

have daughters or children or something

like that get a foundational Baseline

early on

um but they might not have just reached

Peak bone mass so then later on in life

20 years passed by we get this bone

density scan we don't know if we're

still actively losing bone and you get

your first Baseline and you're shocked

you're like oh my gosh you know I have

this visceral reaction what do I do

right this second and you may not

actually be losing bone right then this

was my experience by the way I didn't

have my first bone density scan until I

turned 50. I'm 57 right now and I was

osteopenic yeah and I was like oh I

can't say yeah yeah I was I was really

upset right oh my gosh I actually

am so healthy that I was diagnosed with

rheumatoid arthritis when I was 30. I

had four children and in the course of

throwing up with hyperemesis with all

four of those children I I ever had a

recollection I never had a cavity until

pregnancies and then after each kid I

had cavities my bones were also

suffering during my pregnancies

yeah yeah yeah so and there's there's

that whole part of the picture too right

so we've got the whole Peak bone mass

part and then let's talk about some of

the other things that can contribute uh

because it's both men and women that are

affected by this you brought up a really

great point which are medications uh

glucocorticoids specifically so

glucocorticoids these steroid

medications are designed to suppress

inflammation they mimic natural steroid

hormones in the body they're used for

things like rheumatoid arthritis

um and prednisone cortisone those are

your big ones right the reason why that

contributes to bone loss is because it

reduces your gastrointestinal absorption

of calcium it increases your urinary

excretion of calcium and then

glucocorticoids and this is the biggest

part of this they act directly on the

cells that break down bone to increase

their lifespan and that's going to

reduce your bone density right so just

know if you're on these medications if

you're on Prednisone you're you're going

to have bone loss and that bone loss is

at its highest Point within those first

couple of months that you're on it too

that's the steepest uh you know amount

of bone loss you're gonna have another

type of drugs uh immunosuppressive drugs

selective serotonin reuptake Inhibitors

this is a big one a lot of people don't

know about antidepressants

antidepressants right there's one review

of about 19 studies looked at the effect

of ssris on bone that showed they're

going to reduce your bone mineral

density and increase your fracture risk

long term

and then another big one are antacids so

a lot of times the reason people take

antacids are why because they have you

know reflux and heartburn and things

like that they think they have too much

stomach acid when in reality a lot of

people actually have too little stomach

acid and they're actually suppressing

what little stomach acid they do have

and the reason that's a problem is

because you need stomach acid to

properly break down and absorb nutrients

from your food like amino acids amino

acids your bones are 50 protein by

volume so they need amino acids calcium

magnesium iron B12 if you if you don't

have enough stomach acid your body and

your bones are going to start with those

nutrients so long term being on these

medications and I see people that are 10

20 30 years sometimes on these

medications

to me they were designed to be short

term very short terms yeah

yeah proton pump inhibitors are some of

the biggest

so those are those are big ones and then

we could even talk about

uh let's talk about some of the

autoimmune conditions and other

digestive disorders that can contribute

to this so for me personally my own

story was

um I was you know I had all these health

issues in my late 20s I had gotten out

of the Marine Corps uh probably in my my

early 20s I got out of the Marine Corps

and I started having all these different

health issues I couldn't figure out

exactly why but I had

um poor poor stress poor sleep

um I some days I could barely even get

out of bed I had all kinds of different

issues that I couldn't put my finger on

I couldn't figure out and I also had

digestive issues and then I was

diagnosed with celiac disease so I had

been malabsorbing nutrients for many

many years and you know when you're when

you have celiac disease it's obviously

an autoimmune condition where you know

you're you ingest gluten you've got

these tiny little nutrient absorption

centers in your small intestine called

Villi and when you ingest gluten those

Villi become blunted and over time they

can't do their job so my nutrients my

roots were effectively damaged I

couldn't absorb those nutrients and as I

was still going about my day my body

still needs those nutrients to execute

its daily functions right so it's

pulling from its largest mineral

reserves which are my bones

so then I was diagnosed with

osteoporosis and then the only reason I

was told that osteoporosis even being a

young male is because not because of the

doctors that I was working with it was

actually a physician's assistant that

said you have celiac disease has anybody

checked your bone density and I was like

No And I wasn't thinking you know this

tough Marine you know was gonna I wasn't

thinking that at all so I thought it was

going to come back as just a check in

the box and it came back and it wasn't

even a phone call or anything like that

it was a letter in the mail they said

hey you've got osteoporosis go on a

gluten-free diet

and I was like you know that's there's

more to there's got to be more to it

than that night thank goodness you said

that I know I had to get I actually I

when I got the letter I was really

shocked actually I had I could remember

the blood just kind of rushed out of my

face and I was like what does this even

mean for my future

and I looked it up and I started reading

about fractures and medication

dependence and all these things and I

was I was scared and I went and I

confirmed with another uh doctor I in

fact had osteoporosis and at that point

in my life you know I had a young

daughter son on the way uh my father he

passed away at a really young age and I

my entire my fear as I was growing up

was I was going to fall down this path

to an early grave and not be there for

my kids and I felt like I was just

living this nightmare and I ended up

having to do a lot of reading and

research Consulting with a lot of people

going down this path of figuring out

what has to be done to improve your

health and improve your bones and that's

how I even got into this uh this Arena

of helping people improve their bones

was through that

I appreciate you sharing that because uh

this does show the compelling nature of

what the root cause

why it's so important to discover and

have you just followed the physician

assistance advice and just done a

gluten-free diet that would have helped

a number of things you know in terms of

the inflammatory nature or what was

going on inside your body would not have

rebuilt your bone matrix absolutely not

you would have just stayed where you

were

at best at best yeah not okay right and

so yeah especially when you're so young

because that's the that's the at best

right and yeah so yeah so and so yeah I

had to get curious yeah and so if you've

got gastrointestinal conditions you know

if you've got IBD you know you you have

ulcerative colitis you have Crohn's

disease uh you have celiac disease any

of these things that are contributing to

you not absorbing nutrients properly

get a bone density scan

autoimmune conditions right this this

would be a great example of if we've got

anything that's contributing to

long-term inflammation in the body it's

it's going to contribute to bone loss or

fuel bone loss if long term so you have

to be kind of getting ahead of some of

these things be on the side of

prevention don't be on the side of

reaction

some of the other community uh

autoimmune conditions Ankylosing

Spondylitis that's one that that is uh

important rheumatoid arthritis is

another one lupus these are all you know

different autoimmune conditions that I

would I would go get a bone density scan

and get that checked out and like we

were saying earlier if

you steroids if you've used a steroid

orally

um intra respiratory topically you've

got to go get a bone density scan

especially for for long-term use and if

you're doing cortisone injections it may

not have this systemic effect but it

could lead to localized osteoporosis

could lead to poorest bone in a specific

area that you continue to get those

injections over time so just be aware of

that too

and I'm not a big believer of

non-systemic effect

it's not like it just stay there no no I

know I know

one of the things about cells which

makes up every part of the body

everybody is that it has a

semi-permeable membrane

there's no such thing as having it

contained in one spot so sure uh it's

definitely different than oral

Administration but you're still getting

it everywhere absolutely yeah

well so what I think this is another

thing where we're going to deviate from

the standard medical model

um like I was told when I was diagnosed

with ra

um here's here's a prescription for

Methotrexate here's another one for a

non-sterital anti-inflammatory drug

which also can cause osteoporosis by the

way everyone is taking those

uh you know come back when you get worse

not if uh-huh monitor let's monitor it

yeah yeah

and I remember going well hang on I'm

really really disciplined I run

marathons you know I'm like I make my

own food is there anything else I can do

and I remember her saying now this is

you know I told her my grandfather had

R.A when she asked and this is genetic

that's it and so there's there's no hope

I remember on my way home coming from

this like opening up the door and

peeking out from my Western Medical

Training and going I wonder if there's

anything outside this door you know I

actually had never explored outside of

that Paradigm and so we're going to

venture outside that door right now

because the same thing happens with

osteoporosis that people are told you

cannot regrow your bones

cannot regrow that

yeah so let's talk about that but that's

not true right you have cells that are

all right I never took the meds you know

like yeah you you absolutely can so I

want to I wanted to see if you can

address that for people take them

outside the door yeah no so you you've

got cells inside your body that are

specifically designed to help you

rebuild your bones right and you've got

these cells called osteoplasts These are

cells that are they they break down and

resorb Bone you've got these cells

called osteoblasts that build bone they

help you form new bone and then you have

these cells called osteocytes and 95 of

your bone cells and are are osteocytes

and these are really important and

fascinating cells because they are

orchestrators of this whole bone

remodeling process

so your bones being broken down and new

bone being formed and a major part of

their role is sensing mechanical loading

and micro cracks and micro damage and

they transmit this signal and

communicate to these other bone cells

the osteoclast the osteoblasts hey we

need to become stronger to adapt to this

new you know load that is being placed

on us so it could be exercise or loading

or any anything like that so in the

context of mechanical loading and

understanding the role of our bone cells

and that that's pretty well understood I

do want to tie this to autoimmunity also

in inflammation

what's really interesting about these

osteocytes is that there's recent data

that shows that inflammatory conditions

so those digestive conditions autoimmune

conditions

osteocytes will Express multiple

pro-inflammatory cytokines and that's

going to be associated with an increase

in bone breakdown and a decline in bone

formation too so we do want to make sure

we're reducing that inflammation but

also providing the stimulus needed to

grow new stronger healthier bone so how

do you do that exercise is one of the

most important elements of rebuilding

stronger healthier bones and for your

bones you need two different types of

stimuli you need muscle pulling on bone

and you need impact and the most

effective interventions they're going to

use one or both in combination right so

muscle pulling on bone is going to send

it's a mechanical signal that's sending

a chemical signal to tell those bones

has become stronger

but then you've also got the impact that

that you've got to work into there as

well what are the different types of

exercise most people when they're told

they have low bone density they say hey

go do some weight-bearing exercise go

for a walk I can tell you right now

that's not going to be enough right

walking is great for our health

definitely something to continue if

you've already you're already

incorporating it into your plan but at

the same time you have to do more than

that so when we're talking about

weight-bearing exercise I'm talking

about any exercise where your bones and

your muscles have to work against

gravity to keep you upright and that's

placing a good kind of stress you're on

your feet it's placing a good kind of

stress on your bones so this would be

the walking the running the the jogging

the hiking the dancing the gardening

um even even lower impact things could

be your Pilates your yogig or Tai Chi

those are all considered weight-bearing

exercises right those are important

non-weight bearing exercises are not

putting that stress on the bones so this

would be exercises like cycling

seated rowing

swimming swimming is a big one right you

can't just even if you go in the pool

every single day and you go do long laps

and you feel great and you get out and

you're like wow that I feel so good

today don't count that as your only form

of exercise there has to be more

stimulus than that because you're not

placing that's healthy stress on your

bones and this has been seen in

astronauts too where they don't have

that stress in space that they're

they're not working against gravity they

don't have that stress on their bones

and it reduces bone density that's

another comorbid condition everybody if

you are an astronaut

yeah the gravitation no failed as a risk

yeah and so what is the other type of

exercise then that we need to

incorporate well that's muscle

strengthening and resistance training

exercise right this is where you've got

your dumbbells or your heavy resistance

bands or even your own body weight if

the intensity is at the level it needs

to be and the studies that show the

greatest effect on bone it'd be the five

to ten repetition range uh is where

you'd want to be at and there was a

research out of Australia her name's Dr

Belinda back she she did something

called a liftmor trial where they they

did overhead presses deadlifts squats

chin up with drop Landings that showed

that was safe and effective for helping

improve bone strength so

uh there is research out there that

shows you can improve your bone strength

it's absolutely possible I've seen

plenty of examples of that I know how to

read bone density scans and things like

that so I know when it's an actual

Improvement versus uh an error in

positioning interpretation so I know

it's it's possible to do that

and just for scientific

ability by the same

uh practitioner yeah yeah because you

will have a variance in in different

machines that you use too and and

there's another reason why bone density

scans are only done every one or two

years is because if the amount of change

that's physiologically possible that can

take place in a year for most people if

you have a three to five percent

Improvement in a year that's really good

right if you have a 10 Improvement

that's you know that's very rare almost

unheard of because in most situations

the only time that's gonna come back

with ten percent they don't usually the

only time that's going to happen is when

somebody goes from being relatively

sedentary or not very active to then

ramping it up but even then that has

diminishing returns so we just want to

keep in mind uh make sure you I have

people come to me all the time and they

talk about reversing osteoporosis uh

with you know really low bone density

numbers and we just have to understand

what's actually possible in a given time

period too for her it was going from

from sedentary to active but also and

then proper supplementation but also she

was very estrogen deficient we had

recently gone through menopause and

hadn't gotten like the rhythm of where

to land with that and so we did that for

her and so then that's why she had such

a great Improvement that's great I'm

going to do something unique that you

haven't had done I'm going to turn on a

light real quick while okay I'm gonna

pop my head down real quick

okay

it was getting a little dark here so

um it was kind of cool the contrast of

the top

it's coming out of the dark I was like

cool

[Laughter]

yeah so exercise exercise really really

important has to be part of your plan

right you're not going to rebuild bone

strength if you if you're not doing your

exercise too

so when you're working with people

um I'm pretty sure you're also working

with their diet because I think a lot of

people don't realize how involved the

gut is with like with everything right

but also as you were saying when we were

talking about celiac disease and not

absorbing what we need to absorb then it

affects bones so when we're talking

about gut health and diet and rebuilding

bone how does that all work in yeah I

mean gut health kind of like I was

talking about earlier right you have

these a lot of people focus so much on

eating the salads the smoothies the

supplements uh trying to I almost say

think of your body and your bones as

being like plants right in order to to

grow they need the right conditions and

the right nutrients right so many people

focus so much on the salad smoothies the

supplements that they're not considering

that soil and your gut is like the soil

it's it you know it that's where you're

absorbing everything so you have roots

in your soil those roots are those Villi

if those Villi are damaged or

something's preventing you from

absorbing those nutrients you're going

to have a really hard time getting the

proper inputs you need to build stronger

outputs whether that's healing a cut on

your hand growing your hair or

fingernails or rebuilding stronger bones

so your gut plays a massive role uh in

your health but also if you have

digestive issues as I was talking about

earlier that can also contribute to bone

loss as well

okay it can create inflam inflammation

that's going to contribute to bone loss

as well so that's a really important

piece and then in terms of diet

nutrition

it's not like a lot of people ask me is

there a perfect diet for osteoporosis

and for bone health and they hate my

response because you know I we're all

biochemically engineered

funds because it's the one I give and

we're all biochemically and genetically

Unique Individuals we're going to

respond to different foods and

supplements and dietary approaches

differently which is why there is no

single dietary approach that is going to

be perfect for every single person

now let's say if a lot of people have

autoimmune conditions right if you're

listening this is the autoimmune Summit

you're going to be starting out most

likely having a little bit more

restriction than somebody that maybe

doesn't have an autoimmune condition

right you may be on that paleo AIP or

something like that

well you have to take that into

consideration and you'll eventually

build in and add in More Foods as your

gut health improves as symptoms improve

that's okay to do one of the biggest

challenges I see for people that have

autoimmune conditions is how do I get

enough calcium in my diet too one of my

favorite foods that's really good for a

lot of different people and it's great

for if you're on Paleo AIP or whatever

is fish but not just any fish

canned salmon and mackerel and sardines

that have the bones in them okay why do

I like the bones in them well number one

fish have protein your bones are 50

protein by volume so you need those

amino acids you need it to rebuild your

muscles and your bones number two those

bones they're not hard Pokey bones that

are going to hurt your mouth they're

actually going to melt in your mouth not

that I'm really building the case for

fish here but

they've got all the minerals and trying

to get my people to eat starting so yay

you have to actually we put together

some awesome sardine recipes and

macro recipes and all that stuff so um

to yeah well we got it on our YouTube

channel we've got them on bone coach

YouTube channel but we'll also get a

recipe guide or something to your people

too if you want okay perfect yeah um but

yeah so they've got all the minerals and

nutrients in the ratios that nature put

them in right so that's awesome and then

the third best part of these are that

you get Omega-3s and Omega-3s are these

healthy fatty acids that are going to

help dampen inflammation so I love

getting these these canned fish

um

they're not taking on a bunch of the

toxicity of the ocean and right and I

found and I may be of late a doctor on

this because I was like what I just

found that some companies are testing

for mercury and their fish and I I'm not

gonna remember the name of it you can

you can go and look look them up so I

found this really wonderful mackerel

that has like it says right on the box

it's been tested no Mercury right that's

great people that are really worried

about which you should be you should be

worried about this so you know it kind

of helps us to say okay so there are

tests there is testing that's being done

as it's coming out of the water and then

before it's canned and you can use this

to rebuild bones and for a number of

other things like it's just so good for

you yeah absolutely so one of my one of

my other favorite ones is and I've I've

been a champion of this uh food for

years arugula

arugula leafy green same cruciferous

family of vegetables is broccoli and

kale it's rich in potassium folate

vitamin C vitamin K and calcium and

what's really important is it's

bioavailable calcium too so if you're if

you're eating one of those three ounce

plastic clam shells I'm not really a fan

of the plastic but if you're eating one

of those clam shells that's about that's

got about 200 milligrams of calcium in

it that's bioavailable

that's great and this is super

interesting I just learned this recently

uh even though I'd been a fan of it for

a long time arugula also has a bioactive

compound in it called aricin and that

helps turn off osteoclasts which are the

cells that break down bone right it's

also got anti-tumor and antioxidant

activity and properties but uh that is

really interesting from a bone

perspective too so and the other reason

I like arugula is because unlike spinach

which is a common green a lot of people

use arugula is low in oxalates right

oxalates are considered an anti-nutrient

they bind up bone healthy nutrients uh

and and they're going to prevent you

from absorbing those nutrients and if

you've got digestive issues kidney

stones arthritis joint pain those can be

some indicators that you may have a hard

time breaking down and degrading that

oxalate so you can swap that spinach for

the arugula as well and an ayurvedic

medicine you know 10 000 year old sister

science of yoga the arugula is

considered a bitter which is completely

important when it comes to getting that

digestive fire built I.E stomach acid so

it's a really important one you know

instead of taking a proton pump

inhibitor you know start eating more

arugula yeah because I mean most

people's diets today are are devoid of

any bitter Foods right unless they're

drinking coffee uh in the mornings

arugula is uh probably your only other

bitter Source or for most people I would

say some people are eating other bitter

foods but

um that's a great one to incorporate

yeah and I Do genetics testing and all

my patients and I would say

90 of people with autoimmunity don't

have the genes to break down the

caffeine and The Impossible

so

he's not on the choice of bitters

everyone for you though sure

yeah

um I will point out one other food that

I or group of foods anyway that I think

is really important for bone health

vitamin C rich foods right vitamin C is

a key nutrient for your body and your

bone health obviously it's linked to a

lot of other impressive health benefits

but for bones specifically our bones are

are made up of this collagen protein

matrix upon which minerals are laid and

What vitamin c does is it stimulates Pro

collagen it enhances collagen synthesis

and it stimulates alkaline phosphatase

activity which is this marker for

osteoblast bone building cell formation

that's pretty cool right and the great

thing is you can get some of this up in

your diet too so berries citrus fruits

kakadu plums acerola cherries those are

some sources there are some vegetable

sources too the highest sources of

vitamin C for vegetables those would be

your red and yellow bell peppers but if

you're autoimmune right you're avoiding

the nightshades you're probably not

going to incorporate those so you would

look to die I know kale or Lacinato kale

that's one lightly steamed broccoli

brussels sprouts red cabbage those kinds

of things that's how you can start to

build in those vitamin C rich foods to

your diet

on calcium one of the little known ones

it's one of my favorites is sesame seeds

I love having a snack with raw tahini

you know and like apple slices or baby

carrots you know it's a really nice one

and it gives you a lot of calcium yeah

yep you can absolutely incorporate that

yeah so

um is there like how would you work with

people on a bone building program I mean

this is your jam this is what you do so

how do you work with people yeah so we

have it's not actually not just me

um sitting here turning lights on in the

middle of an interview

um it's I've got a team of about 15

people we have a whole Customer Support

Division and things like that and we

have online programs that we walk people

through step by step called the stronger

bone solution

um but in that our process is is really

simple

um it's the first thing you have to do

is you have to identify and address the

root cause issues contributing to bone

loss that's the first thing right you

have to get your bone density scan

understand if you're still actively

losing bone right now there are plenty

of there are some tests that can help

you with that one of them is called the

CTX serum CT low peptide test there's

another called the urine ntx those tests

help you understand if you're still

actively losing bone right now now

but then once you get your lab results

back what are those results actually

mean and then it's starting to address

those issues and that's usually in

conjunction with a health care

practitioner that you're already working

with could be a functional medicine

practitioner naturopathic doctor or your

team of MDS or whoever you're working

with right

that's kind of the first part the second

part is the nutrition part so diet

digestion absorption

you have to get those things things

lined up and a lot of times you I

remember you specifically said this

earlier when you were told you had

osteopenia was I and I hear this a lot

probably 50 of the time is I exercise I

eat right what happened like how is this

possible how did I get here

now a lot of times even if people are

eating healthy

you you might not be getting the right

nutrients in the right amount you might

not be absorbing those nutrients and

those nutrients might not be making it

to the cell level all three of those

things have to line up

that's kind of the second part and then

the last part is you have to build

stronger bones in a way that prevents

fracture and injury so you got to get

the right exercise plan in place reduce

your stress

stress and I'm not talking about the

physical threat of a lion I'm talking

about psychological stress fear worry

emotionally charged thoughts Financial

challenges family conflict all those

things can contribute to your stress so

you have to address that and sleep

right sleep is a um if you've got poor

sleep it's pretty well documented that

will reduce your bone quality so you

want to make sure you're getting to a

point where you're actually sleeping

well

and then addressing the hormones and

things like that so that kind of across

the board is

the process that would be used to get

somebody to the point where they're

actually being being able to improve

their bones and their health beautiful

I uh found out much much later but like

you I'm very gluten intolerant

genetically so you know running

marathons coming home having a big bowl

of Greek yogurt with granola and

blueberries and walnuts on top I'm not

absorbing it I was loaded within three

hours you know like like I was nine

months pregnant and I thought that was

normal like everybody bloated after they

ate you know yeah so these are the kinds

of cues that your body will give you and

uh you know that kind of stuff's not

normal then no it's not it's definitely

not but uh there's there are some really

talented people out there whether it's

us whether it's you know your team and

and you and all the other people that

you've interviewed on the summit there

there are ways to get help for the

things that you need to get addressed so

seek out those people and don't try to

figure these things out on your own

because it's a long journey to do that

why I want to encourage everybody to see

Kevin and his team you know this this

bone health piece is an often missed

part of the whole puzzle and it's so

important I mean this is your structure

this is the thing everything else lies

on you know and hangs on and it's one of

the things that women die the most from

when they're old right yes broken hips

fractured bones and you know that's

that's the thing that will deteriorate

your health faster than almost anything

so yeah this is really important

Investments this is this is a 401k right

here right yeah that's I mean there's

usually I mean we work with people that

have anywhere from no fractures to five

to ten or more fractures and I can tell

you the people that have five to ten or

more fractures there is not a single

person that we work with that has not

said I wish I knew sooner yeah um so if

you're listening to this you know take

this as your sign become educated become

empowered and start making progress and

plazomax is not the answer please no and

Fosamax let's if we've got a second

let's just touch on that okay so let's

talk about the conventional announcement

yes let's talk about the conventional

options that will be presented right if

you are told you have osteopenia or

osteoporosis you will be presented with

a medication and 90 of the cases right

or it's going to say calcium vitamin D

walking take a bone drug the different

types of bone drugs now I want to point

out this is not like taking an aspirin

these drugs have a dramatic effect on

bone physiology and there are two

different classes or categories of drugs

that we're looking at there are

anti-resorptives so this would be your

bisphosphonates and your rank Ligon

Inhibitors and these are designed to

slow down the activity level of cells

that break down bone

and Fosamax is in the bisphosphonate

category right there are a lot of

symptoms are you know side effects and

short and long-term implications of use

but one of the biggest things with

Fosamax is that the safety and efficacy

of Fosamax is not really known Beyond

five years

so that's important and then what

happens is when you're taking

bisphosphonates for extended periods of

time

you can actually get to the point where

um every single one of us on a daily

basis we're doing activities we're

moving about we're placing this stress

on our bones and we're starting to get

these tiny little stressors micro cracks

fractures in our bones tiny ones that's

normal for every single person and those

cells in the bone sense that damage and

they send the other cells to the site to

scoop out the damaged bone and fill it

in with stronger healthier bone you can

actually slow down the activity level of

those cells so much that you start to

accumulate that old worn damaged

weakened bone and over time that can

lead to more brittle bones right so a

really important thing that a lot of

people don't a lot of people aren't

aware of at that point of being

presented the medication

and then there is a whole other class of

medications called anabolics

and these drugs are designed to build

bone and build the faster and build

better quality bone that happens but you

have to be aware on that medication you

are not just going to take one

medication you have to follow it with

another another medication and that is

usually the case when you start down the

path of osteoporosis medications you're

usually not just starting one you're

committing to multiple medications down

the road so with a host of long-term

applications potentially and side

effects probably so yeah

all right well I appreciate that public

service announcement sure

and to help out with that one

is there anything that we haven't

covered that you think is really

important that we need to cover

um I would just say I mean on any health

Journey this should just be a general

note right on any health journey be kind

to yourself be patient with yourself

no one figures it out day one there's

going to be a lot of trial and error

you're going to be upset you're going to

be sad that things didn't work out

you're going to be you know you've

probably invested a lot of time and

money and energy and effort keep going

you will figure it out all you have to

do is do things one percent better

tomorrow than you did them today and

you'll you'll be well on your way to

Better Health and active future and I'm

speaking from the heart there because I

I've been in that situation so

and I would say 95 of my patient that

find me are angry they're really mad by

the time they get to me because they

have spent a lot of money on different

things that they feel like haven't

worked and I just want to add to that

and say

that's information that you needed to

gather right in the scientific inquiry

we are looking just as much for what's

not the cause and fix as we are for what

is and so anything that you've tried

it's not that it didn't work it's that

that's the thing that now you can add to

the list of okay so now we know that

it's it's you know this is all

information that's important to flush

out your puzzle which has thousands of

pieces in it so yeah it's it's I think

that's important because that anger and

that feeling of I'm doing everything

right that perfectionism that's a driver

inside that actually makes you sick

it does it really does

community that I find is a perfectionist

person type A's type is I'm a type A

yeah

yeah and it is that like seeking the

formula instead of recognition that you

know the the the road to success is not

a straight line it goes like this right

and there are all kinds of graphics and

means that indicate that and you can

laugh when you see it but it's actually

breathed into it that is actually

accurate and that's what your phone

Matrix looks like too by the way yeah

yeah absolutely

so so I appreciate your time and your

wisdom and your expertise thank you so

much for sharing it with us yeah this is

great great chat

great chat glad I could be here

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Ellis the bone coach and his team really

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mine welcome back to the reverse

autoimmune disease Summit Series

everybody this is 5.0 version where

we're talking about healing the energy

body and of course everything is made of

energy so there's nothing that is

outside of that Paradigm my guest today

studies and researches this his name is

Dr Roland mccrady he's the director of

research at the heart math Institute and

Research Center as a psychophysiologist

Dr mccrady's research interests include

the physiology of emotion heartbrain

communication and the global

interconnectivity between people and the

Earth's energetic systems findings from

this research have been applied to the

development of tools and Technology to

optimize individuals and organizational

Health performance and quality of life

Dr mccrady has acted as principal

investigator in numerous studies

examining the effects of emotions on

heart brain interactions and on

autonomic

cardiovascular hormonal and immune

system function and outcome studies to

determine the benefits of positive

emotion focused interventions and heart

rhythm coherence feedback and diverse

organizational educational and various

clinical populations he's been featured

in many documentary films such as I am

the truth the joy of socks movie The

Power of the heart solar Revolution and

the living Matrix among many others

welcome to the summit doctor thank you

Keisha I can see that I need to create a

shorter short bio I know I I have the

same problem when people start reading

one I go need to pair that down

but you know you could take a stance

that you sit there and you go man that

person would be really interesting to

get to know

so you know in your bio we mentioned

some of your areas of research and and

this is the reverse autoimmune disease

Summit and we're talking a little bit

about

what really the coherence between

trauma in the past and the impact it's

had on nervous system wiring and firing

and then the impact that has on the

immune system and what what that then

unfolds in adulthood as our health or

lack thereof and so you know when when

we talk about taking things from a

cellular level to a cosmic level things

aren't so different when we talk about

coherence are they another

really not

um the coherence is a term used to cover

that the cosmos right down to the still

the processor within a cell and all the

workings within a cell so

yeah yeah

uh I I often talk about ayurvedic

medicine you know and one of the things

when I was diagnosed with rheumatoid

arthritis when I was 30 I'm 57 now and

six months after diagnosis I was able to

reverse it and I haven't had it back but

in that period of time when I was 30 and

I had that diagnosis sitting in front of

me and then my body I remember you know

thinking

there has to be a different way than

approaching this as just the disease you

know like there there must be something

that's out of whack or out of balance

inside of me and in those days I was an

ICU nurse and I didn't I didn't really

know anything I know today I just didn't

and so when I started studying like well

how do I how do I figure this out in

terms of imbalance or I didn't know the

word cohering or coherence at that time

and

I remember you know looking into PubMed

and looking for the research and and

ayurvedic medicine popping up and you

know 10 000 years ago they said that we

are a microcosm of the macrocosm of

everything that is and then oh by the

way autoimmune disease is undigested

anger

and I just remember like sitting back in

my seat going

oh what am I mad at or digested just

even digesting emotions was a

revolutionary concept to this brain you

know like oh digesting the emotions and

your experiences that you have like you

would digest an apple that that's also

necessary you know and and so as I

started diving deeply into some of these

things and and learning them and my my

autoimmunity versus I applied it but one

of the things I ran across was heart

mouth and became a certified you know

instructor and and I listened to you

talk about for every five minutes you're

upset it takes your body eight hours to

recover and I've mentioned that to you

before you know that was that was a long

time ago when that little statistic came

out right

yeah uh 90s probably somewhere in there

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yeah and so this you know this idea that

our heart and our mind you know our mind

and our body we talk about mind-body

medicine and it it feels like it's

getting a little bit trite and off track

I mean people just say oh yeah mind and

body you can't separate them but really

that is true right like we have to come

into this place where everything's

coherent

absolutely yeah so

uh one of the things that you talk about

in your writings is that the Earth's

Fields have frequencies the same as

humans and if we're talking about you

know this this idea of microcosm to

macrocosm this becomes important too

what what are the Earth's Fields

frequencies and how are they related to

us because this is the nest we live in

basically right yes

um well okay we can start wide uh yeah

okay uh you want to go right there off

the bat that's that's great appreciate

it let's go wide and come in

there are

well many we live in a sea of

electromagnetic frequencies and I'm not

talking about cell phones and that kind

of thing now I'm talking about the

natural

uh magnetic environment we live in

so start with the Earth and then you we

have to keep in mind that the Earth in

its entire magnetic fields are housed

within the fields of the Sun literally

the magnetic field of the sun is all the

planets are within that magnetic field

so there's a lot of

um I call them nested Fields Fields

within Fields within Fields

um

that'll be your question about Earth if

we talk let's start with the geomagnetic

field uh well hopefully most people know

what that is that you know that's the

North to South Pole thing or compasses

aligned with and tell us which way we're

going

the that's a very uh a field that

extends out around the earth like a

toroidal shape

um many thousands of miles out in in the

space and back you know North to South

Pole and to explain this probably be

good to Journey backwards and if we can

back to when we were in uh science class

in high school or middle school whenever

it was that we got to dump iron filings

most people get to do this I think you

dump your if lines on a glass plate and

you put a magnet under it you know

whether it's a horseshoe or a bar or a

ball whatever and you see the iron file

ends kind of magically dance around and

um flying up in a way that shows you the

shape of your Mac the feel of the magnet

right this invisible field

but remember

more specifically that the this is where

a picture is worth a lot of words that

those iron filings lined up in lines yes

it shows you the shape of the field but

they're but they're lines so there are

also that simple little experiment lets

us visualize what are called magnetic

field lines

okay so they're very real things now

what they didn't at least I didn't learn

back then that uh took me a long time to

to learn was that you can pluck magnetic

field lines and they vibrate just like a

guitar string or any stringed instrument

that would use guitars and just like in

our guitar if you change the tension or

the length you change its

resonant frequency in other words the

note you know are we playing C or a or

whatever the the frequency is when we

pluck the string

so the magnetic field lines of earth

work the same way

are these what are called lay Lines no

these are called actually magnetic field

lines this is the actual measurable

geomagnetic field that we live in okay

um Ley lines not that they don't exist

but you can't take a magnetometer and

measure them they're not a measurable

my magnetic field like what we're

talking about here

and it's also important to keep in mind

that we we really need to appreciate the

Earth's magnetic field

because without it Earth would be turned

into Mars very quickly no atmosphere no

water because it's what protects the

Earth from

the solar wind which would blow away the

atmosphere in the water and so on very

quickly

but it's the silver wind that we're

talking about that's plucking the

strings of the Earth because the Earth

is turning so is the sun right then the

solar wind rushing by is plucking the

field lines and they're vibrating well

it turns out that the one of the primary

resonant frequencies

of the field lines vibrating which are

called fuel line resonances that's

actually the technical name for these is

a in frequency language

0.1 Hertz

okay now that's important because that's

the same frequency as our human heart

rhythms when we're in a coherent state

same not close to the same it's the same

right for the majority of people

so basically then the second uh let's go

ahead and mention this a set of magnetic

waves that are relevant to a human and

animal physiology because animals have

the same basic physiological rhythms we

do

across pretty much across species

are called human resonances

and these are not to be confused with

the vibrating field lines fuel line

residences these are magnetic waves that

are traveling around the earth that are

can trap between the surface of the

Earth and the bottom of the ionosphere

and for those not familiar with the

ionosphere think of it as a soap bubble

around the planet

that starts out about 50 miles up from

the surface of the Earth and it's this

layer of Highly ionized highly charged

particles it's called plasma

which is a four state of matter in

physics by the way plasmas have some

pretty special properties and one of

those is that they are like a mirror to

magnetic waves they bounce off of it

the fact this is how ham radio operators

work in order to amateur radio a lot of

people know you know who those guys are

you know they send your your radio wave

up but hits the ionoster and bounces off

and that's how people in the here in the

United States are talking to people in

England or China and if you get a second

bounce and you're talking to people in

Australia and South Africa and places

like that that kind of live for that

um so

this human resonances though are are con

are the are these magnetic waves that

get created in this cavity between the

Earth and the ionosphere

and it's the geometry of it the shape

and size that determines their frequency

and the there's eight human resonances

the these weren't measured

experimentally until about

1959 1960. when they were first actually

measured

so it's not that long ago right and

certainly in my lifetime they were first

even measured

but the even when they were first

measured the first the first human

resonance is 8.3 Hertz

now that's the same as our brain waves

that's right in a cross over point

between what's called

um Alpha and Theta brain waves kind of

that magical point but all eight we now

know all eight of the Schumann

frequencies are the same as our human

brain waves and most animals so I've

just talked about two different primary

magnetic resonant frequencies of Earth

that directly overlap our physiology our

hearts and brains

and um why is that important well back

to science class again most people got

either got to do it or have certainly

seen demos of this where you have two

tuning Forks of the tuned to the same

note or frequency and you tap one and

the other starts to vibrate in unison

with it without touching it

and that's really just demonstrating

more technically what's called resonant

coupling

which is showing that you can transfer

energy and information between two

oscillatory or vibrating systems that

vibrate at the same frequency you've had

the same resonant frequency

so here we are our hearts and brains are

operating at the same resonant frequency

as the two primary systems of Earth so

we have the basic physics to understand

how we are

transferring energy and information

between us in the in the fields of the

Earth in a two-way uh

scenario if they affect us and we affect

them we're feeding information into in

fact I think of it as a Global

Information field

that we all contribute to

it sounds like you're describing

consciousness

uh well aspects of Consciousness yes

yeah

co-creating co-creative right

yeah

so what does that have to do with our

health how do we how what happens when

that gets well inherent interesting

um

so boy there's several ways I could go

with with that one but um let me start

at the bigger picture there I'm gonna

over here to my right I've got a stack

of research papers probably about almost

two feet high

uh that particular stack is just on

studies that have looked at

effects on human health of the magnetic

Earth magnetic environment so there's

actually a lot of research on this

and it's very well established that when

the field of Earth the the things we

just been talking about are Disturbed uh

like and that's usually we get hit with

a solar flare there's a lot of solar

activity and you know the plasma wave

for the Sun hits the Earth's magnetic

field and it gets all

Disturbed right and uh they called

Magnetic storms in fact

that that's not good uh for human health

and behavior

um so Hospital admissions go up uh quite

quite a lot this is not a subtle effect

a lot of cases but especially

mental and emotional processes get

affected

so it's uh we get triggered easier right

we're a little more we're adding

significance to things that typically

you know kind of roll off like water off

the duck backs you know those examples

of things that usually yeah that's so

and so they're just that way well now

we're starting to get all upset about it

and and adding emotional significance

and so on uh more car accidents I mean

it correlates with so many things

financial markets get more crazy and so

on

um volatile and so on

so the studies we've been conducting we

I think we published um

eight studies just last year on the the

interaction between the magnetic field

environment and a lot of different

aspects of human health arrhythmias and

heart uh heart failure and just a bunch

of different studies that came out

but the there's a new story starting to

emerge

um I think it's worth mentioning

historically to give this perspective

the majority of that stack of papers is

looking at magnetic field disturbances

and Hospital emissions and the primarily

because that

the only marker or measure of

geomagnetic activity that's been really

available is a thing called KP index

which is actually a major magnetic field

disturbance

okay so that's a measure that scientists

had a fairly easy access to

Hospital met records are pretty easy to

get access to

so that's been the focus so it's given

this I had this perception that The

Field's bad for us

right and if you think about it

Hospital admissions are primarily in

older populations of people who already

have some type of a chronic disease

so this to feel when the field gets

Disturbed it's kind of the straw that

broke the camel's back analogy you know

um so call it critical mass yeah that

yeah so that triggers an off we go you

know with the issue

but most of the days of the year we're

not in magnetically just uh Disturbed

times

so we we have the a couple of advantages

in that we I wish we didn't have to do

this herself uh because it's very

expensive and time consuming we've

actually created What's called the

global coherence monitoring system

so this is a network of calibrated time

synchronized magnetometer sites around

the world so we we have sites and um

well one here where I am in California

and central California

um northern Canada

Saudi Arabia Lithuania

South Africa New Zealand I'm probably

forgetting one but uh so we could we

have a pretty good measurement system

for really looking at the actual

resonant frequencies of what's going on

which KP has nothing to do with and that

doesn't measure

in fact it's the only Network like this

in the world that that I'm aware of

that actually is continuously measuring

the frequencies of Earth so that allows

us to do other kinds of studies for

example we've had people wearing

recorders that record your heart rate

variability

um or heart rhythms uh continuously 24

hours a day from one study for five

months

other studies you know a month and so on

so we're able to look at what's

happening in normal times when the The

Field's not Disturbed our normal

day-to-day life

in a very different picture emerged and

more and more studies were starting to

to see this I think we kind of Maybe

started the process a little bit

uh but at what has appeared what is the

new picture that's emerging Kisha is

that it's good to be in sync with the

field of the Earth

there's actually an energy source

right so we we feel better we sleep

better we have better cognitive

functioning these are all kind of

indicators that have come out out of

these studies I'll give you one just one

example of a couple that we could

depends how much time you want to spend

here but one of the things that kind of

kick-started in a way even before we

were doing the long-term measures of

heart rate verbility

one of our collaboration Partners is in

the University of Lithuania we have a

couple different groups we work with and

one's a with a Cardiology Group in the

medical school

and so they were doing the standard you

know kind of thing of looking at Medical

Hospital admissions but not just with

the field disturbance over the whole

year looking at the admissions for

different various diseases and and

um an interesting pattern showed up and

that is when the resident the power

or the strength you know the vibration

of the resonant frequencies is lower

they they saw increased Hospital

admissions in elderly populations with

chronic disease

okay when it was higher they saw less

Hospital admissions

okay now in the younger population it

was exactly reversed

now before you go further I want to

clarify something

so when there's a solar flare is the

resonant frequency higher or lower well

I guess Disturbed it the resonant

frequencies aren't as resonant because

it's uh it's more chaotic it's a more

chaotic lower coherence or just the

disturbance is when it's lost yeah it

feels bouncing all over it's like an

incoherent discordant it's not as

resonant would be a way of thinking of

it and that's when the elderly are

getting Hospital well no no no well yes

in terms of the the majority of studies

that have looked at the correlation

between magnetic field disturbance and

hostile admissions

so where I just went and this other

example was looking long term not just

during disturbances but across the year

week to week you know day to day week to

week and then with our system being able

to look at what's the resonant

frequencies looking like lower resonant

frequency more elderly admissions higher

resonant frequency power less admissions

for the elderly

but here's the kicker the young

population is exactly the opposite when

the magnetic field resonant frequencies

are higher there were more admissions

but not for disease

for accidents

in other words so their conclusion

independent of me even was from that

study and what they were seeing is we

must be when we're in sync with the feel

of the Earth this is like an energy

source

we have more energy

right so you're when you have less

energy more not more admissions in the

elderly people because they have less

energy for biological function

and the kids are doing more stupid

things right getting hurt yeah right a

pretty good hypothesis actually

now just now just in this last uh few

months actually two two different papers

got published looking similarly across

the population of close to 500 people

over a five-year period where the what

they were measuring this is the same

Lithuanian Cardiology Group where they

were measuring what's called resting

metabolic rate okay and I know you know

what that is but for the listeners

that's a measure of how much energy the

body requires

for just basic life functions when we're

at rest

and the interesting thing that this

study showed was that when the resonant

frequencies of the Earth are higher our

resting metabolic rate goes down in

other words that right down to the

cellular level the the body is using

energy more efficiently and coherently

so we require less utilization of energy

for basic functions

when we're in a when the magnetic fuel

environment has higher resonance

frequencies

so what affects the the magnetic field

environment's resonant frequencies

um say that again that didn't quite what

what affects those resonant frequencies

so in in the field itself that makes

them

lower or higher

oh okay

um good question mostly solar activity

and so how

when you're tracking this

something that are you a storm watcher

not particularly

yeah how often are we seeing these

things come through that are affecting

well they're actually they're well there

are seasonal rhythms based on the tilt

of the Earth right they're certainly in

the um so there's

in what's called space weather there's a

lot of stuff that goes on

that doesn't really rise to the level of

a magnetic storm

right that are still subtle effects

um so that's what we're seeing that

would be one answer I mean one part of

the answer to your question

wondering if there's anything that's

human driven

well okay now in terms of the actual raw

power of the resonances

um maybe

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um

I I think a guy named Michael Persinger

who um the late Michael person he passed

away a couple of years ago and now uh at

a university in Canada

uh he was kind of kind of crazy like me

to be suggesting that we interact with

the magnet with the fields of the Earth

and

and

um actually did some uh studies looking

at in the areas day night differences

and the power of the Schumann resonances

you know going into her brains oscillate

and was able to to show at least

mathematically that the resonant

frequencies in this human references

were greater where you had lots more

people asleep

uh in other words what he's implying is

that our brains are actually adding a

little bit but a measurable bit of power

to the Schumann references

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who knows I mean I believe we're all

interconnected so that uh

but the the other thing we can't really

measure directly like you know I can I

can take a cell phone I'm an

ex-communication engineer before I

return a psychophysiologist

um 37 years ago

but we can take uh and deem what's

called demodulate or look at the

frequencies being carried by the field

of our radio or cell phone whatever and

demodulate it and see that information

being carried into the field but we can

actually do that with us as well

as well every time the heart beats we we

literally radiate a magnetic field out

into the environment now I'm not talking

about Aura but take a magnetometer and

measure this I mean this I know this

exists we can measure it and we can see

that

information being carried by that field

that directly relates to our emotional

state we can see those patterns of

information being carried by the field

no question about that

so what we're also suggesting a part of

our one of our projects called the

global coherence initiative is that our

our body in our fields

rest through resonance just like the

tuning Forks are adding information into

the planetary field

right so we're all feeding the field

um so people among everyone's

experienced the effects of this just

didn't know it

um so a lot of I've encouraged people

kind of it's a number of Citizen

scientists Community

um to just kind of be start becoming

more aware you know you might wake up in

the morning and not because you had an

argument with somebody or anything if

you just wake up feeling out of sorts

you know kind of like energetically

tense or just something's off

and either a high ratio of times if

you're paying attention you'll find that

you turn on the news and sometimes

happen there's been well like recently

the school shootings or you know

terrorist attacks or something where a

lot of people have really had an

emotional reaction and a Fed to feel

that yeah we feel that or

it's uh check into space weather right

you see that there's a magnetic field

storm going on

so we're feeling the effects of that

but normally we just don't put connect

the dots

until we start paying attention to it

this is so interesting

I I had a near-death experience many

years ago and you know nde people will

often come back and have Tales of

different experiences and one the one

that I had was that there was a grid

surrounding our planet and little bars

of light we each represented one of

those and but actually it wasn't even

optional that we we needed to be showing

up in order to contribute to the this

power grid is the way that I thought

about it you know if thinking is a thing

in that space But the way I just

ascertained it you know and brought it

back when I came back was oh like each

human life is really important in

feeding that yeah and and we none of us

can check out we have to yeah like

really be intentional and conscious

about it well it's a good point and I

mean so we do Advance you know we have

monthly can't what we call care Moon

full moon care focus is where a lot of

our Global Network of the the global

Consciousness Community uh comes

together to actually add love and and

compassion into the planetary fields

right that impulse it and then we have a

part of another group that's called the

global coherence pulse that many

organizations are part of We're the

third Saturday of every month we pulse

the planet you know with love and

compassion and there's many many other

groups doing doing similar things

and that those are great and they're in

fact there's an amplification effect

when we do it together and especially if

we're coherent and the research is

actually starting to prove that out

that statement but

a point I make is that hey look we're

always connected to and feeding the

field not just when we come together for

these events where we're really on are

playing our best game right we're

getting coherent and you know

um what about the other 27 days of the

year yeah how much of that time are we

feeding the field with frustration or

impatience worry excessive worry

judgments right yeah versus really being

kind treating to feel kindness and

compassion and well these these

practices that have been around for

hundreds if not thousands of years you

know they speak to this right and they

they come from a place of understanding

that all of this is

really important and and one of the

things that I've come to talk about and

teach is this isn't this life thing is

not a passive Observer kind of

experience so Don't Take Your Eye Off

the Ball like be actively engaged in

what you're putting into the field right

because that's what you're going to get

back

well it's yes we get it we get back the

totality you know like the the field

environment it's really that this you

could kind of think of it as averaged

out in a way and can but I would

actually suggest that it's calculated to

a very fine-tuned degree in a higher

dimensional context so it what one of

the sayings I talk a lot about and when

I do presentations and things you know

yes be ask yourself be conscious of what

you're feeding the field but part two is

what we feed the field matters

and it matters more than we might

believe or imagine

a lot of people you know I think in

today's world that's just little oh me

yeah in this big isolated behind your

computer and you're yeah but it does

matter and every individual's

contributions matter

and it's really a time in the evolution

of Consciousness from my perspective

where we do become more responsible

self-responsible for our own energetic

body and systems and what we're feeding

field not for certainly for our own

health

right I know you're you're the the

overall focus of the Summits you know is

really has to do with inflammation right

autoimmune and uh that's directly

related to our HRV and how much we have

of HRV which is directly related to a

measure of coherence

so um I made some pretty big jumps there

but but we can time yeah that's the

exact you know that mean that's the

those are those are the Stepping Stones

across the river right there well

exactly so but so even if you

don't could care less about others you

know we're just totally self-centered

we'll do these practices for your own

self

it still matters it still helps the

planet

um and so what are some things that

people can do to increase their personal

coherence because that that coherence

increases resilience yeah

um

well that's what heart math is all about

and there's uh as you know as a trainer

there's a number of key Cool Tools and

techniques but it really starts at I

would say

um with self-awareness

starting to have the courage to look

under the radar

right under that what we deny what are

we really feeling

um and a little bit deeper level

and start being responsible for those

two to we have a lot more power there's

another way to say this Kishore to to

self-regulate and choose our emotional

diet than most people have ever been

taught and it isn't uh in most cases not

their fault they've never been taught

it's not something we and we're

certainly trying to teach to change this

this is something that should be

fundamentally taught in in school and

education from from the early early

childhood on otherwise we've got to

build all this unlearning

right

um I mean right now it's ambition

training

for for most uh kids you know

um rather than really being learning

about their emotions and how important

they are in driving the body processes

is its emotions that run the show

physiologically it's not thoughts right

the emotion comes first yeah and they

and they are what Drive the activity in

our hormonal system in our nervous

system I mean it's so easy to show here

in the lab

yeah it's just it's just becoming aware

of that and then learning that we really

can

turn around depleting emotions and I'm

talking about denying that's the last

thing you want to do or trying to

repress no that that doesn't work either

but we can start um changing those

emotional responses and feelings and

this is where the heart has a huge role

in this we have to so the heart sends

more information to the brain and the

other way around

and the information from the heart goes

to right to the amygdalas I mean in fact

the

core nucleus in the amygdalas are

literally synchronized to the heartbeat

so whatever the heart rhythmic pattern

is is the mingle is directly monitoring

that

and that has a lot to do with creating

our emotional experience in other words

how we actually feel

it's kind of you know Common examples

um

you know most uh people when they fall

in love with each other or stuff we what

do we say

we don't say I love you with all my

brain right right because we know

instinctively that there's something

else here that uh so the heart really is

a major player in creating our

experience of emotions

more the higher positive emotions but

the brain's also involved here it's

interpreting but it's also creating a

lot of the interpretations of things we

react to and stuff that you know like

anxiety and fear that's uh all brain you

know

we could say our brain is what causes us

to fall out of love

yeah

I mean it's the the brain in mind you

know it's we I want one and I want it to

work really well right I mean we need

the brand to live in this level of

density and navigate the world it's

really when a lot of what we talk about

here is it's not about the brain is a

bad guy of course not right but it's

really getting the heart and brings in

sync and and that I mean that literally

we can actually measure the

synchronization between the heart and

brain activity

but that as we do that physiologically

which is a measure of what we mean by

physiological coherence

then we start opening the heart to the

accessing our heart our more of our

intuition from that higher place about

who we really are

and uh I mean our own selves

once we can do that we can recognize

that every

person we share the planet with has a

higher self also yeah we we all do and

everyone is um I would say for the most

part pretty much anyone and everyone

is doing the best they can from the

level of awareness they've evolved to

yeah and that that's kind of humbling

when I think in my own path uh you know

we call it old souls or whatever we've

also been

that person we're judging and somewhere

along our path

absolutely

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get to a certain

growth you when you when you land there

there's a letting go of that desire to

other people and judge them and you know

blame right brings your locus of control

firmly internally and a term we use

along these lines is that it actually

helps me a lot but it's a compassionate

latitude that's nice right because it's

uh I mean I in my journey you know

really tagging and feeling the energetic

the vibration of appreciation I was

pretty good at that

um you know in a lot of years of

practice and a lot of benefit but

compassion was a little more abstract

in the beginning I've gotten more into

understanding it's a little bit higher

up in the love Spectrum compassion is to

really be but to have our Consciousness

start really vibrating truly at that at

that frequency but compassionate

latitude was my stepping stone

um because yeah it cuts people some

slack right I mean having compassionate

latitude because what they're what

they're saying or doing that's upsetting

me

that I'm judging or whatever is the same

stuff that I've done myself

to others or probably will do so come on

cut them some slack and we really don't

know what's going in other people's

worlds

and I do want to say just for people

that are listening and say well no you

know I I wouldn't ever sexually abuse a

child that's not something I'm ever

going to do it's the motivation that

drives behavior that we're actually

pointing to yeah we all have the same

personality traits we just do them

differently yeah do it do I condone the

behaviors of a lower vibration of course

not exactly but if I'm judging and

getting angry about it who am I hurting

you're right

right it just adds to the field more of

the same that's driving that behavior in

somebody else so it's really important

that we I mean this is the thing I say

keep your eye on the ball all the time

and the ball is actually you and your

own awareness yeah and in fact when

we're able to to not fall into that trap

that it's really a downward spiral when

we get into the judge and blame it uh

thing the real issues I'm not saying

those issues aren't real but what that

does is it leads to a very identifiable

State that's been called cortical

inhibition you know our brain gets

inhibited for since the 70s

so when we're able to stay a little more

neutral emotionally that opens up that

leads to cortical facilitation we are

able to get the heart and brain and sink

and draw in

the intuitive guidance of well what can

we how can we take the love and care and

put it into action you know in in real

practical ways to actually create

positive change

right

um

yeah and this is you know I think a lot

of the religious Traditions have places

here that this is spoken of and

and we just I I really think we need to

get the compassion and action piece and

the heart rate variability and and

cohering into

preschools absolutely and we actually

have a program for preschools yeah yeah

and it's so important and you know

there's a Buddhist movement for seeds of

compassion and preschools but just any

of these kinds of programs that are

being developed whatever calls to you

you know this is a place where we can

make a big difference in in our children

I mean to me there any research I do

anything I talk about it's keeping in

mind like what what are we leaving for

our children here

like we're right in the process now the

recording going on in the office next

door uh to where I'm sitting that's uh

for a new parenting program

uh program for parents so to discuss the

kind of things we're talking about and

and

um how do we model you know as parents

but also teach our children uh practical

ways for for all you know that sets them

on a lifelong course for better

self-regulation and self-awareness I'm

so happy to hear that and then you know

for for people with autoimmune disease a

lot of the work that I do is helping

them re-parent their own little selves

from trauma and so learning those skills

even if you're not a parent and not a

grandparent you know this is also again

as Dr McGrady was talking about it says

very personal significance and relevance

so yeah helps uh heal attachment trauma

within you yeah

yeah I mean you said that I'll do

another plug for heart math here we

actually I hope you've already taken it

Keisha our uh our program for

trauma-informed uh approaches it's

called the trauma what is it called

resilient heart I think is the name of

it it's a great program it's if you're a

healthcare professional people who get

actually certified and you know all that

in it but it's really for anybody it

could if you're a guidance counselor or

just a parent working with kids or

excuse I mean School teachers First

Responders it's really open to anybody

to take

and uh I've heard nothing but just rave

reviews from it

a lot of people who've taken a lot of

trauma courses this is by far the best

thing I've ever ever seen so

well there's uh I don't I don't want to

open up a huge can of worms here but

there's since the last school shooting

um there's a lot of trauma held inside

of

the energetic bubble that we are in and

people that are you know very frustrated

with what can I do and you know some are

calling for teachers to become armed in

the school system and things like that

you know crazy this is this is a way to

arm yourselves your teachers and your

children right is that internal

tool yeah right to be able to use when

because inevitably challenges happen

that we think we can't overcome it's

part of the human experience and so we

need to have these tools within us yeah

so this is a really wonderful solution

for what where to put your frustration

and grief like yeah I mean uh alt for my

perspective none of this is going to

change until Consciousness evolves to

its next right Notch up I mean it great

we should and be doing policy changes

and things that you know are appropriate

but that's not going to solve the

problem I agree with you this is an

evolutionary need and it's just pointing

to it right we just we have to evolve

already in our Consciousness which is

why I took our questioning to the very

like there this is kind of just like

we're talking about that this is what we

need you know I'll give you I used to

say well I've got a couple stories here

of my journey of really understanding

this this bit about this Consciousness

the evolution of consciousness

that um keep it short I used to say I

had read somewhere that with 10 of the

world's military budget every person on

Earth could be have clean water be fed

housed and educated

okay I can never quite find the source

I'd heard it but it sounded like hey

this is pretty cool

until a couple of years ago when I met

the person who's actually been nominated

for three Nobel Peace prizes I've

actually got her book over here

um Celia ellsworthy

a book called the business plan for

peace has done the math and I discovered

I was wrong

it's far less than 10 of the world's

military budget

now which would then solve a lot of the

problems if we did that right right we

wouldn't have to have all the military

stuff we have because right this is

healing the energy bodies of everything

so this isn't it's not a problem of

Technology right

this has existed for years the the

ability and the capacity to

to do this

so we just have to eat it's a problem

step forward and take those steps

ourselves I mean that's each of us has

to do it this is the I mean you know in

their study after study you could sink a

ship with it with

people that you know the TM movement

showed that crime in Washington DC

decreased when for 30 days they gathered

and meditated you know Rivers clean up

here in Washington state the duwamish

when people gather and

provide Reiki and meditate you know to

the river like this we have we have this

inside of us

yeah

yeah

so this isn't new

I think but I think we are at a new

place though we are and being able to

actually measure and yeah right and yeah

and and it's the Consciousness Global

I'm talking about global human yeah this

Evolution I I really do believe we are

at a point in that evolutionary

trajectory that we're we're in the

middle actually of the next Tipping

Point to the next Notch up uh as a

global species I mean that is actually

that's what the shift's all about that

people talk about right and that has to

do with heart brain

alignment ultimately that's that that's

underneath that shift from

I always say it's the most exciting time

to be in medicine like I

it's delightful time to be here

yeah if you're here if you're here if

you understand that that that's what's

going on in a part of that mission it's

a it's a really adventuresome time to be

here and it is you know it really helps

us from getting over sympathetic I mean

being compassionate but not kind of drug

down into the oh my God you know right

compassion fatigue

right well I you know this is probably

quibbling but I don't I think that's a

word that we need to stamp out of our

it's even in the scientific literature

because true compassion does not cause

fatigue no it's not it's not caregiver

fatigue I'm talking about when the scale

that it's been talked about in you know

in a different way where if there's too

much going on in terms of tragedy then

people will sometimes turn in and become

more narcissistic and lack empathy I

understand I yeah I'm just I don't want

to quibble I know I know

it's not the compassion that leads to

the fatigue right it's what we call over

care yeah it's when our care and

compassion starts turning into over care

of that it's that's the problem yeah so

we get on that downward spiral instead

of the upper I put it in my boundaries

class you know how

to be able you know I always say leaky

boundaries leads to leaky gut which

leads to autoimmunity right so being

able to have strong a strong field and

then you don't that that's not a thing

right

yeah

all right well Dr mccrady thank you is

there anything we haven't touched on I

mean there's a million things but yeah

anything that we haven't touched on that

you would like to leave before we go

where would I even go with that I mean

there's so much we uh we started wide

and kind of stayed there

um I would just encourage you know the

listeners here to um

and maybe check out our website there's

a lot of free resources

um if you're a very inexpensive

investment I think I'm hearing a lot

from is our we just did a re revision of

the book heart intelligence

that's the very practical

um user-friendly tools techniques that

uh

sorry I don't know what the book is 14

bucks or something I don't know it's a

very small investment for uh

um can really help I think a lot of

people move forward and uh beautiful a

lot of usable tools there so thank you

so much well likewise and thank you for

the invitation and the chance to uh to

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welcome back to the reverse autoimmune

disease Summit Series this is 5.0 and in

this one we are dealing with the energy

body healing the energy body and of

course the energy body means everything

right the everything is energy and our

thoughts are energy your physical

structure is energy and our guest today

is going to talk about the link between

those two

Tom McCarthy is a father of two husband

of 30 years and CEO or board member of

eight companies early stage investor and

over 40 companies and worldwide

philanthropists after a successful

career with a Wall Street firm he found

his true passion in the field of helping

people in business Athletics and life

break through their limitations and step

into their full potential

he's been the Peak Performance coach for

athletes who have won World

Championships and Olympic gold medals in

2015 Tom faced a serious health

challenge of his own that caused him to

focus on how human beings can heal

through the power of their mind after

healing himself he started a new company

life force blessings and also founded

the global energy healing Summit welcome

to the summit

thanks Keisha and congratulations on 5.0

that's amazing great job

I know I know it's

ears keep passing on through

I really like the you know the the idea

that there's a purpose to our illness

that somehow if we break through then we

come to a place of wisdom and learning

that's at a higher state and stage of

development and so what what is the

purpose of an illness how does that work

I think it varies from person to person

back in 2015 I got a virus they didn't

know it was a virus they thought I had a

sinus infection and so my my doctor

who's really good and and very rarely

would ever prescribe an antibiotic uh

had me on one because I was getting

ready to fly to Hawaii and speak at a

conference and I didn't get better and

then I got back and and he and I was

traveling and I was going International

and doing all sorts of crazy things and

so he gave me another dose which it

doesn't help with the virus and and

pretty much uh took out my immune system

and it scared the heck out of me because

I I wasn't getting better and so like a

couple months in I was really inflamed I

was uh had no energy I was seeing double

I mean I thought I was dying and it was

probably one of the scariest times of my

life and then finally discovered

actually through an energy healer he was

the one that told me you've got a virus

not a and he wasn't even there locally

with me tapped in from you know La I was

down in San Diego and he said you know

you got a little virus and so the the

antibiotics aren't going to help and I

didn't get better right away I mean he

he helped me out he got rid of some of

the pain but it took me about six or

seven months and then I know you deal

with a lot of people that go through

this but you know some uh doctors or

people were saying yeah you know some

people struggle with it the rest of

their life I go I'm not going to and so

what I did was I found I I started when

if I ever have something come up I don't

go to the Internet look okay what's the

you know what are the symptoms what's

the average person do I find somebody

that had it and got better and so I did

but it took probably I had to reprogram

my mind it took about seven or eight

months and it was almost like life was

holding me down you know I couldn't I

could barely get up and walk to the

bathroom

and I I think for me the lesson of it

was

I was going too fast and as much as I

believed and you know I do believe in

meditation I talk about it I was doing

you know some Qigong I was going way too

fast I was traveling way too much not

sleep different time zones not sleeping

and I think life gave me a wake-up call

and said hey if you don't if you don't

get this squared away now you're going

to have more serious things so for me it

was an amazing learning experience and

once I got over a little bit of the fear

of thinking oh my God what's wrong with

me I'm gonna die I learned a ton and it

was one of the most valuable experiences

of my life even though it was super

painful I had no energy I could hardly

function it it it it's one of the

really most beautiful experiences of my

life and it's made me so much better

seven years later

and being able to tell this story yeah

so so what is this part of the mind that

we have to access to to me you know

quantum physics Robert lenza's work in

like biocentric design he talks about

the studies that show that we literally

have thousands maybe even millions of

probabilities and the second The

Observer puts their focus on one of

those possibilities or probabilities the

rest of them disappear right so what is

this part of the mind that we need to

use to observe the outcome that you know

we want to have happen yeah I call it

the super conscious but you're

absolutely right I love your description

you just gave one of the examples I use

in current times is what's happening

over in the Ukraine right you had the

Russian military invade Ukraine far

superior in terms of numbers and

Firepower and planes but you had a guy

that that that literally was an

alchemist president zielinski because as

you said every day we wake up and

there's there's probabilities right and

some are more likely and some are less

likely and probably one of the the least

likely probabilities is that Ukraine

could rebuff this this uh this very very

powerful military for as long as they

have and actually defeat them you know

to a certain extent not completely but

he made that real and and not only that

he got he changed because of his energy

and the way he communicated but the way

he lived his energy he shifted the world

there's so many conflicts going on in

the world right now that you and I don't

even know about right or care about

because we don't know but that one we do

because one human being stepped up and

said hey we're going to win this thing

but we need some help and he shifted

reality he made a possibility of I mean

think about all these sanctions that are

going on this never happened before

never he shifted that along with his

countrymen and and you know their

braveness but we can do that and the

super conscious I think is and people

call this subconscious I call the super

conscious because I think it's just

badass right when we really tap into it

95 of what we do in our day is dictated

by what resides down below our conscious

level of thinking and most people think

the conscious level is just all we are

but it's a it's a portion of who you are

you know what the conscious mind can

process 40 bits of information per

second but these super conscious can

process 40 million bits of information

per second I don't I also I don't

believe that the mind is just in the

brain I think we live within our minds

our minds extend out beyond our body

when you talk about energy so uh you

know my my son I taught him uh that

always program your mind your mind to

always be in the right place at the

right time and I I want to put a little

pin right here because this is really

important what you just said for

thousands of years different Eastern

philosophies have said this the mind is

not the brain and you know we have we

have heart mind and we have belly mind

and we have skin mind and we have eye

mind and we have the mind that goes

around our you know our energy body and

all of all of this is mind and so this

idea that we are going to program that

mind and live in the mind if we start

thinking about

you know I think 94 of thoughts are ones

we've already recycled over and over

again

other than that I think for sure

right so this is so important what

you're saying in Tibetan Buddhism they

say we perceive you know really quickly

but it takes 17 steps to get there like

you're just and how you're doing it is

how you've always done it unless you

take a Beat

and you open up the space they call it

the doorway to Karma and that that 17

steps to perception and you actually do

it differently and then then you're

creating a new pattern so I love that

you're teaching your son this so how

does your son respond well so yeah a

couple a couple things I have a couple

stories about him because he's a big

believer in this now but so he

programmed himself to always be in the

right place at the right time and he's

working he was working on a deal at the

time to buy uh Forbes the company Forbes

he and some partners and so he went for

a walk and he just done this programming

like you know for about a week and just

always believing but most people though

when they program they're like okay I'm

always in the right place at the right

time they don't really believe it they

don't see until they believe it but he's

he's huge into believing the mind can do

amazing things so he believes I'm always

in the right place at the right time and

he calls me up about a week later and

goes dad you're never gonna believe what

happened I said what he said well I'm

walking down the street he lives up in

West Hollywood and this guy guys jogging

in the opposite direction and all of a

sudden he stops right in front of me and

I said what he said yeah and I said how

old was he said Daddy's like your age

he's an old guy and I said what happened

he said well he stopped and he looked at

me and he said I don't know why I'm

stopping I I don't even run this way I

live in Beverly Hills I never even run

this way but something tells me I need

to talk to you and my son's like a

little weirded out but he goes okay and

the guy says what are you doing my son

says I'm an investor my son's 26 years

old and the guy said well I'm an

investor too and they talk for a couple

minutes he doesn't really tell my son

much about you know what he does but he

said look if there's ever a reason to

talk

here's my email or I gave him something

he said you know

um let me know because I don't know why

I stopped but you know maybe there's a

reason for it and so my son goes back

and looks them up this guy's a

billionaire and he runs a four billion

dollar uh private Equity Fund so my son

calls him up and he said hey I think I

might have a reason to talk we're we're

trying to buy Forbes and would you be

interested in taking a look at it and so

the guy says yeah you know take a look

at it and so two days later they have

lunch he goes I like it but I want to

have another guy look at it so we had

dinner two days later those two guys

that that my son met literally from a

what most people say a coincidental

meeting on a sidewalk right yeah both uh

both committed 100 million dollars each

to that deal wow now but my son in

2020 you know 2000 2019 uh he was a he

was a basketball player to Harvard and

he had had a concussion a bad concussion

so he sat out a year he had a year left

to play he went to a school called Rice

University for his fifth year and was

working on his MBA he goes in the

beginning of the year and he's got this

crippling pain in his Kip and his knee

and then he uh was getting therapy on

that nothing was really working and then

his back went out you know 23 year old

kid he can't even walk and he's a fit

athlete they take him into one of the

best hospitals

in Houston Orthopedic guy does it you

know they do the MRI they look at them

they say hey you've got one of the

biggest herniated discs the largest

herniated disc we've ever seen in

someone your age and you know we need to

we need to put steroids in shoot shop so

my son didn't really know what to do and

his trainer's saying he had to do it so

he went in they put him under he did

that didn't work right he still had this

pain

I I told him uh look a lot of pain

chronic pain is mind body pain yeah

you've got a herniated disc but you

don't have to be in pain and so my son

listened to I listened to John sarno's

book the mind-body prescription just

listen to it it's all he did listen to

it three times and his pain went away

it's never come back he's probably still

has a herniated disc but he doesn't care

because he's not in pain and his face is

a verb

know it we use it as a bird yeah exactly

but and so that's he's a huge believer

in the mind but what happened literally

and and you talk about this like people

think you know my body's the problem

yeah and the body is just a reflection

of what the mind is producing and in

your health in your wealth in your

relationships everything so it's that

super conscious mind that we need to

work with we need to remove the jaw up I

mean I had lots of things I had to go

down in there and find and get out

before I could heal and then put in some

better stuff right that that that

allowed me to operate in a more healthy

way

um

it's so interesting because in ayurvedic

medicine you know it's just a 10 000

year old sister science of yoga they

they talk about where the microcosm of

the macrocosm of the Universe I just

interviewed Dr Gerald Pollock on you

know on water and he's talking about the

same thing when you have the proper kind

of structure or easy water that that is

more of a gel than a liquid it takes the

cell and it pushes out anything that

shouldn't be in there you know and and

so here we are talking about the mind

doing the same thing right pushing out

of that that thought cell that thought

bubble what should not be there so that

you can have the healthy life-giving

Force

that will give you the all the Vitality

in all the areas of your life that

you're looking for yeah yeah and the the

challenge with the super conscious is it

doesn't judge

yeah if you are putting thoughts in

there that you know life is tough I'm

I'm not a healthy person my parents have

had these diseases so I'll probably get

I'll have them too if that's what's in

your super conscious down below the

conscious part of your mind then you're

creating that the mind's not going to go

hey Keisha that's not really good for

you you should you should change that

your conscious mind may but your super

conscious is going to just go hey she

wants us to produce the same illness

that her parents had so get at it let's

go let's create that and that's what

people don't understand they go you know

they think well you know my life's tough

it's not fair we've created it we have

created it whatever it is and not always

consciously because and you know there's

you know there's you know it's better

than I do but from zero to age six or

seven we absorb pretty much everything

so we absorb all the disempowering

beliefs and and experience experiences

and thought patterns of our parents our

community

off off things where you know now you

see parents entertain their kids by

putting them on

iPads and so all that kind of stuff

literally is going in because we're in

an alpha State at an early age and

there's a lot of stuff I had early on

that

that was pretty stressful and traumatic

my dad was killed in Vietnam when I was

three my mom really struggled

emotionally financially and I've had to

work through a lot of that stuff in

order to heal and become better but it's

work it is work and I think we're all

gonna have to work on ourselves and our

minds until the day we take our last

breath if we want to optimize ourselves

yeah

so what are you you have a book called

the Breakthrough code and so I think you

have some keys to creating a health

breakthrough that you've listed out in

there what are those yeah so it's not

about just Health it's about anything

but a lot of people are using it for

health so there's three big Ideas number

one is focus on if you want to create a

breakthrough so a breakthrough is like a

a a

huge positive experience where you're

elevating yourself you're elevating part

of your life because I believe we can

live a life Without Limits it doesn't

mean that everything's working perfectly

but it means where we're stuck we have

the ability the mind is unbelievable

like the Mind allowed my son to connect

with a billionaire that was the perfect

person to help fund that deal he didn't

do that on his own he didn't go okay

this guy's walking I'm gonna meet him he

didn't know who the guy was his mind did

that right because his mind extends out

Beyond him so

with with the uh the first big idea for

the Breakthrough we don't where you want

to create a breakthrough is focus on

Less in that obsessed which just means

if you if you take your your mind and

all the energy it can produce but you

water it down by having it kind of

evenly focused on everything like a

thousand things very hard to create a

breakthrough breakthroughs require Focus

they were they require you to be with

your mind more laser-like than a light

bulb like a light bulb will light up a

whole room a laser will cut through a

diamond so you need a laser in on what

is it you really want and

with health like you've got a laser in

on what does not just to want to be

healthy like what exactly does that look

like what does it feel like what does it

sound like and then focus in on that and

then the obsessed part

is

program it down into the Super conscious

you don't need to consciously be

thinking okay I need to be healthier I

need to be healthier I want this level

of Health

you do need to focus on it a couple

times a day when you're in an alpha

state so when you wake up when you go to

bed right before you go to bed right

when you wake up perfect time program in

see it feel it believe it and that's a

struggle that was hard for me when I was

not feeling well to even imagine again

like what does it feel like to feel well

what does it look like but but once I

was able to carve that into my mind now

the super conscious took hold so that's

the the first big idea I don't know if

you want me to stop there or go to the

next two also absolutely keep going okay

so once you get over the focus and you

really start programming and when I say

see it feel it and believe it that's

daily work but it's a few minutes a day

and once it once you can see it the mind

doesn't work with just saying I am

healthy you know just an affirmation I'm

healthy it needs to see a picture of it

like what does it look like when you're

healthy what are you doing what what

activities are you able to do you know

what does it feel like really feel in

your mind carve into your mind that that

feeling of what it feels like to feel

really really great and

everything's created twice which you

know first inside then outside we're

working on the creation on the inside of

us and then believe uh believe is or

belief is just a feeling of certainty

create a level of certainty this is the

hardest part for people because they go

how can I believe in it when I'm sick

and I've got this disease and I'm

diagnosed with this

if you if you buy into that and you

allow yourself to only believe once a

doctor tells you you're healthy it's

going to be a lot longer and much more

of a struggle to get healthy when you

start creating it inside and carve it in

it gets easier now the second big idea

is upgrade your story upgrade your life

and I usually like to ask like I might

have asked you this before what's the

most powerful story you'll ever hear

um I don't know the one we tell

ourselves right okay yeah so now we've

got a focus that we believe in we've got

we can see it feel and believe it now we

need a story to support it and and

there's two things like if you just

tried put in you know a a powerful

uplifting story of who you are what

you're capable of what your immune

system can do whatever it is

but it's it's on a foundation of

limiting beliefs and and old stories

that don't serve you it's on a weak

foundation so I think there's two things

we need to do with our story we need to

identify what part of our story do we

have to part with do we have to let go

of and not have down in our super

conscious in order for us to heal and so

part of what I had to part with like

early on just was uh a little bit of

belief like you know chronic fatigue

takes years to heal now I got over that

really quickly because I said I don't

believe that and I got it out and I'm

just like all right

um who's done it quickly and then I just

found some role models and I I

interviewed them and found out their

story and I started telling myself the

same story so your story is pretty much

everything because it it causes you to

view the world in a certain way and it

also feeds into your super conscience

then the third thing you've got to do so

number one

focus on less like really focus in on a

few things doesn't mean you can't do

other things but put some energy and

effort into what you really want and and

then create an obsession Down Below in

the super conscious upgrade your story

upgrade your life and then the third Big

Ideas pack your day with effective

action if you want to heal what are you

going to do during the day to heal are

you gonna do what like I do like sitting

in a chair and meditate at least twice a

day are you gonna do Qigong

effective action I'm not saying you've

got to like you know grind grind grind

grind grind effective action I believe

is the way to go it's effort times

Effectiveness equals results and that's

where people like you and your summit

you you give people the effective

actions the things that'll really move

the needle

and then that creates faster results and

way better results it's not just working

hard and grinding and and sweating all

the details I mean you got to put some

effort into it but it's Effectiveness

that actually increases your results

I think this is such an important point

that you're making because I after oh I

don't know movies like The Secret came

out I I think sometimes people

um in eastern philosophy they'll call

some of these principles the near enemy

to truth right that you can visualize

and you can manifest but it's not

sitting on a meditation cushion and

imagining it you actually have to get up

then

take some action right

yeah and I I think that part got left

behind a little bit you know that you

have to take some time and bring it into

the receptivity channels which you could

think of as on the left side and on the

right side you take action you know so

that there's always this flow going in

in your energy field with the rest of

you know the universe so here's what I

believe that happens though is once you

if you've got the right level of focus

in the super conscious and you've got

the right story your actions will be

guided you literally will intuitively

know what to do even part about bringing

it in like you have to be quiet to

receive right you have to take that time

because some people are so activity

oriented they're on a hamster wheel

doing a million things like just like

what you said they're not being quiet to

get that inspiration first that's right

they're then or they're yeah they're uh

kind of like a bull in a china shop you

know people who take Massive Action and

when you're not feeling well and you're

ill Massive Action is probably

destructive like you're taking way too

many supplements you're seeing 58

different doctors by the way things that

I've done in the past right that's a

that's part of what I was doing when I

first got chronic fatigue I'm like okay

read I take this supplement this

supplement this someone well this doctor

didn't help me yet so I'm gonna go to

that doctor and and I was just I was

taking Massive Action it wasn't the

right action and then I'd like for

people to hear this because this is one

of the patterns another one is just to

sit still and hope it changes because

you're visualizing it so these are two

opposite ends that are imbalanced right

and a lot of people that are more

drivers in the world will do exactly

what you said when I got diagnosed with

rheumatoid arthritis when I was 30 I did

the same thing I was doing everything

that I could lay my hands on and of

course that doesn't work

yeah it doesn't work yeah you can

overload your system and of course

there's also the idea that if I do all

of these things then I'm going to get

this very specific outcome instead of

really listening and asking the body

what it's what what's the feedback

you're trying to give me what is it how

can I support you right how can I

support you yeah yeah and then the other

thing too I think is

expectations you know that that concept

has gotten beat up recently like you

know don't expect I think you should

expect the final result that's what you

want to see feel and believe but don't

don't don't get too caught up in how

it's going to happen uh don't don't say

okay well I did this so now I better see

something in the outside world right now

because five minutes ago I worked really

hard on my mind and it's probably not

going to happen like that as a matter of

fact if you think it's going to happen

like that you certainly won't happen

like that it'll be more surprising it'll

be much more I think magical usually you

know and sometimes it comes with

setbacks I think as as we as we start to

to work on changing our mind I want to

say mind I'm talking about the super

conscious mind not just changing your

mind on a topic or something uh we

usually get a little bit of adversity

right because the mind is trying to say

hey wait a minute you know do you really

want to shift off what we're doing and

then most people when they face that

adversity they go oh yeah see it didn't

work versus that should be that should

be the sign like dig in like

this is a beautiful opportunity for you

to get even stronger and in my book it's

actually a

I'm gonna call it a novel but it's a

parable and so it's this person going

through this tough experience challenges

with this health is a relationship is is

business and and then eventually

figuring out through these wonderful

mentors that are pretty diverse so

there's like a female CEO of a tech

company there's uh there's a a person

who've been in prison that you know came

out and and uh re rebuilt his life and

very very successful so there's some

pretty cool mentors in it that allow

this person to understand that

adversities are going to be potentially

part of it now one thing I've bought

into lately though is I used to think

growing up like life's tough you have

adversity it's really good right you

know and I do think it is good but also

I think we can learn just as much

without adversity if we keep ourselves

in a growth mindset and we're constantly

growing so I think that's super

important too is not to bring the

adversity on because the adversity is

usually showing up because we've slacked

off a little bit or we need a little

kick in the butt you know to really get

us over to where we need to go

it's interesting because I'm I've been

Crossing that threshold too of you know

I think I have a template that only

suffering brings learning I think I can

probably shift that

that's a really important one to shift

and I've had to do that too yeah yeah

I'm 57 and I'm thinking I think it's

time to retire that template I think

it's funny though like so I'm 61 but you

know even though and you're you're still

a baby compared to me but here we are

you know in a later life so to speak or

at least when I was young I thought wow

you know someone's 60 years old they're

really old and we're still working on

ourselves we're right

we're still finding the chinks in the

armor and going all right boom you know

get get that out of there and I think

it's such a beautiful thing and also a

really great example because I think a

lot of people think you know you or

people that are very successful it's

like everything's perfect and they're

complete and they don't have to do any

work and no we're working our tails off

every day just you know like bringing

out that next best version of ourselves

yeah I always say this is this is not a

passive Observer kind of a experience

this is a Never Take Your Eye Off the

Ball experience of what your mind is

saying doing thinking feeling because

your actions are following it so that's

that's really really uh it's great and

you're right you know no matter how old

you are there's always something that

you'll be able to uncover so I'm so much

smarter at 61 than I was even at you

know 60 or 59 like you know we're just

continuing to grow I didn't even you

know I I wasn't even in this health

realm I was always passionate and I knew

many people uh in the health realm you

know through uh helping run Tony Robbins

company when I was in my 20s but

literally just last year we we did two

Summits right we did the global energy

healing Summit which you were on our

second one yeah we did one in September

had 50 000 than we did one in uh just a

couple months ago and we had I think

almost 70 000 people it's all new to me

like I didn't know any of this up until

last year and then just you know started

a company put the summit on I learned a

ton but you have to be open to doing

that type thing and uh you know to me

it's fun though it's fun to learn it's

fun to learn from you

I feel the same way which is why I like

doing these because I get to talk to

such amazing people and learn from them

so that's yeah

so you have a free gift that you're

providing our audience uh Peak

Performance paraliminal for brain wave

and trainment do you want to talk a

little bit about that yeah it's it's a

it's something I did a few years back

where I did it with a gentleman Paul

shealy from learning strategies and

paraliminals are really interesting so

it's uh it's hypnosis uh he's on it I'm

on it we'll we'll help you get into a a

deeper level of uh Consciousness and

then we will talk you through uh right

brain left brain so you're gonna have

two voices coming at you it's something

that Dr Milton Erickson used to do uh

double induction so your conscious mind

kind of gets confused like where do I

focus on and so it can go down into the

Super conscious much easier and so it's

a lot of fun there's two sessions on how

to raise your level performance in

anything and it's pretty easy you just

pop in some headphones sit back relax

you might even fall asleep but I hope

everybody enjoys those

Summit host is going to take advantage

of this too so yes absolutely thank you

for that and then for those that are uh

buying the all-access pass our VIPs

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shared by all of our experts there's a

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yeah so if uh there'll be there'll be a

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the Breakthrough code so this is the

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they enjoy it we've gotten phenomenal

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they'll also get a master class that I I

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just takes you deeper into it it

actually has you do the exercises like

how do I get rid of a thought that keeps

popping up well yeah we will show you in

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how to start getting some of these

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beautiful thank you so much Tom is there

anything that we haven't covered that

you would like to leave with our

audience no I think it's been great and

and hopefully we'll have more

conversations in the future I know we're

doing a Summit in 2023 and we'd love to

have you on again so I'm sure we'll talk

a lot more in the future I would love to

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where we're talking about healing the

energy body and my guest is recognizable

to most people and it hit the top title

is where does the juice come from

inhaling your energy body so we're going

to talk a little bit about how that

energy body is connected to the thigh

bone the knee bone the immune system the

gut genetic trauma Etc so when it comes

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environmental toxins and the development

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once again Dr Tom thank you Dr Keisha

really a pleasure always a pleasure to

be with you and support your efforts

it's just great what you're doing out

there

well I feel the same way about years and

so I'd love to talk a little bit you

know you you talk about each of us being

consumers right as a consumer with a

number of symptoms trying to get

healthier what's the big picture that we

have to keep in mind when we're focusing

on healing the energy body oh you bet uh

Justin healing in general whether it's

the physical body the energy body the

chemical body just healing uh we we have

to know where is the drive where's the

powertrain that's pushing disease

you know where what's the momentum I

mean if you want to change the direction

of your health you have to change the

direction of your metabolism and so

where's what's the push and

we know that 14 of the top 15 causes of

death in the world today are chronic

inflammatory diseases

14 out of 15. the only one that's not is

unintentional injuries everything else

is a chronic inflammatory disease which

means when I go down or when you go down

or when any of us go down it's very

likely to be from a chronic inflammatory

disease meaning this inflammation was

going on for a long time it was chronic

it's been going on for years well I feel

fine oh really well you know I would

wager almost a thousand dollars that

with most people if they do the right

tests they're going to find out they're

inflamed and they're carrying more

inflammation than what is that the body

can adapt to

and when you have excess inflammation

then you have tissue degeneration

collateral damage from the inflammation

and that occurs just wherever

your vulnerability is I call it the weak

Link in your chain you know if you pull

it a chain it always breaks it the

weakest link it's at one end the middle

the other end is your heart your brain

your liver your kidneys your immune

system wherever your genetic weak link

is what it's a combination of genes

and this is a geek word antecedes which

means how you've lived your life you

know if you eat tuna fish three times a

week you got mercury poisoning you know

that's just a given now because all tuna

fish except for one type

um has high levels of Mercury

it's a predator fish and the bigger

Predator fish accumulate a lot more

Mercury than the little tiny smelter

anchovies or sardines do right so if you

eat a lot of tuna it accumulates over

the years that's an antecedent so it's

your genetics and antecedents that

determine where the weak Link in your

chain is

but it's always inflammation that's the

big

picture here so if there's only one

direction that we want to focus our

attention on to learn more if there's

only one I hope there's many but if

there's only one it's how do I live more

of an anti-inflammatory life

that's the Big Kahuna you know and when

you've got that one

then you look at what I break down into

four categories some may have different

breakdowns of these various components

of Health but I call it the pyramid

of Health you know when you look at a

pyramid there's three sides to appear no

there's four there's also a base right

and that's your structure and that's the

home of chiropractic and massage and

exercise and your bones and your muscles

and your ligaments and posture and all

of that and that can change any health

direction if that's the primary area

that's out of balance I've seen so many

miracles with just straight Chiropractic

Care a mechanical care over the years

that if that's the primary imbalance

that's what you have to fix

so that's the base of the pyramid then

one side is the biochemistry and that's

where most of us spend all of our time

trying to get healthy with what we eat

what we drink the medications we take

the supplements we take the air that we

breathe really important to address that

but it's only one of the four sides the

next side is the mental or spiritual

side and that's what we're looking at

here today and the last side is the

electromagnetic

that in the last 30 years now that's

become as big a player as structure or

biochemistry or emotions that we have

that's why my cell phone has got a pong

case on it p-o-n-g because it just

minimizes the amount of radiation that

comes to the phone

now and I know it works because the car

that I drove for many years is an Acura

and when I walk up to the car the lights

turn on the Shine Down by your feet and

the inside lights turn on before I get

to the car so my key sends a message

says we're here and the lights turn on

so you can see you know the inside of

the car you can see by the door handle

and all that

but if I'm holding my keys in the same

hand as my phone and I walk up to the

car the lights don't turn on but uh

what's wrong with oh yeah of course and

then I change hands and then the lights

turn on right away before I touch the

car so that tells me this thing is doing

something you know I'm no expert on emfs

but uh I've recommended pong to people

for years because I know it works and

there are others also

uh on the EMF side of it so I want to

say something that you said about the

pyramid and where we're focusing most of

our time and energy is on that mental

spiritual but actually we're not

biochemical the biochemicals where we

spend most of them but you were saying

on the summit that the energy body is

mostly over there but actually it's all

four of those right EMS affected

biochemistry effects that your structure

affects the it's all right exactly

they're all interconnected yes and

that's the next concept I wanted to

address and for some it'll be introduce

them to it and that is the concept of

network medicine

it was jaw dropping and you know we

conveniently forget about stuff that

um is outside our Paradigm you know the

uh the world that we live in uh if

there's something that we're not quite

it doesn't fit then we just conveniently

forget about it and uh I'm writing a

paper right now and uh uh I uh the title

of the paper is the Enigma of the

gluten-free diet reduce symptomatology

and increase mortality

and if you don't do the gluten-free diet

correctly I mean if you do it correctly

it's the best thing in the world but if

you don't do it correctly and just start

eating all the gluten-free garbage

that's out there your health goes down

it goes down and I'm I start off this

paper and that's for this first

paragraph I just wanted to bring it up

here because it's such a great concept

Oxford languages defines an enigma as a

person or thing that is mysterious

puzzling or difficult to understand

and when you have an enigma in

healthcare so many of our doctors

conveniently bypass the Enigma they stay

with what they know and they bypass the

rest of it so here's here's a concept

from the New England Journal of Medicine

that came out

18 years ago and yet most people if they

hear it today they say what

what I didn't know that you know the

meaning that they bypass the information

so what they did well there was a paper

that came out that identified a

particular Gene called the fto gene and

we know that it's a gene that is

indicated of high risk for obesity

and if you carry one of those G's you

you can carry none one or two could you

get one from your mother one from your

father and if you carry one of those

genes we know that the risk of

developing obesity for that person is uh

30 percent

higher than the general part than people

that don't carry the gene now that's

really interesting and if you carry both

genes

then the risk of developing obesity is

67 percent

okay so that means it's more than likely

that person is going to develop obesity

unless they take some measures to quiet

that Gene down but it's more than likely

that they will

but here and get about 1 6 of the

population from Europe of European

descent carries one or two of those

genes so this is an important concept to

understand

just in general but here is where the

concept of network medicine really came

into play friends have an even more

important effect on a person's risk of

obesity than the genes do

that if you're friends with someone who

develops obesity while you're friends

with them over the years your risk of

developing obesity it goes up by 171

percent

so if you have one gene it's 30 you have

two genes it's 67 if your friend

develops obesity it's 171 percent

and they follow this line of thinking

and it took up to the fourth degree of

separation friend of a friend of a

friend before there was no effect

that's Network medicine meaning there

are networks like you were just saying

about uh energy body with mechanical and

there's networks that we have to

understand

and we've grown up in a world that wants

us to believe there's a magic pill

and what do I take for this what pill do

I take and that's not the case you know

when you're dealing with network

medicine and all of it is Network

medicine because you work on the

structure and you're affecting the

energy body and you're affecting the

biochemistry and you're affecting the

emotions I mean there are so many

studies that tie all of this together

that

Network medicine should be the

prerequisite for every physician before

they Implement any protocols to

understand well if we do this it could

affect this this this and this yep we

don't think like that and our doctors

don't think like that

it's critically important that we all

understand that it's not a single shot

to address your blood sugar imbalance or

address your high cholesterol or address

your back pain or address your brain fog

or your long covid

there is not a direct way of doing it

you have to deal with the whole picture

the whole network and that's why events

like this are so important because you

learn one more piece of the puzzle and

then one more piece of the puzzle and

then one more he says oh my God and then

you finally realize you're going to be

learning pieces of the puzzle probably

for many years to come

and how they fit with you because each

of us are different yeah that's the

individualization I would say if one

theme has percolated to the top of this

particular Summit it's been the thing

that you just pointed to that it's not

one thing it's critical mass and it's

not one thing that will get you better

and it's not an instant thing either

it's a journey and it's a process and

it's learning how to really clue in with

compassionate curiosity in a

collaborative way with all of your

systems instead of a tyrannical you know

I want you to be this way therefore

working to know so the body doesn't

really respond very well just like small

children don't

it's a really good point really good

point and for some people it's hard to

embrace this concept as the scaffolding

that you stand on as yours climbing up

to Better Health this is the platform

you know is that it's all connected and

if you change your diet but you still

have stinking thinking it's unlikely

that you know you're going to get the

results you want right yeah

and uh so it's it's a long journey

when you've crossed that line of

Tolerance and now you're manifesting

wherever the weak Link in your chain is

it's a long journey and if you can

Embrace and settle down for the ride and

know that your goal is to roll across

the hills a little bit at a time with

you can have some UPS you can have some

little Downs as opposed to a roller

coaster where you're going oh you feel

great and all of a sudden next week you

crash right so the goal is it's called

the Zen wave you know it just it just is

a slow rise a slow drop a slow rise but

there's a consistency across the scale

that that's the goal when you're trying

to reverse the direction of one's health

and you you can get it pretty quickly

usually in a month to two months you can

see some excellent biomarkers that

things are changing in the right

direction but it'll take a year to two

years to really

settle in to your body having a

different way of integrating all the

things that you're learning just takes a

while

you know I I really appreciate you

pointing to the wave because

everything comes in waveforms light

sounds energy of all kinds the tides the

cycles of the teeth and everything comes

and be and it seems like humans expect

Street lines you know once I've reached

this bar then I'm going to stay there

until I go to this bar and and you know

having dips is not something it's like

oh no I'm getting bad again you know

instead of realizing that everything

happens this way I I noticed that people

are a little intolerant to having their

mood dip without if they've had a

history of deep dips without having some

anxiety around that until I show like

that yeah this is the waveform this is

the way it goes it's the only thing that

is

straight line is human invention when we

look outside at Mother Nature there are

no straight lines none that's a really

good point you know when I'm reminded

um

uh Back in

1970 probably the 76 or 77. I had done a

weekend experience called EST EST back

in 75 and

anytime the trainers came into town to

do their courses I would treat them I

was called to their rooms you know their

hotel rooms and happy to do that I was a

young stud not just opening my practice

and one day I had a nice conversation

with one of these trainers and he

explained to me the path to

consciousness

and it just made so much sense he said

you know have you ever like done

something and you look back like three

days later and say why did I say that to

that person that was strange that's not

what I meant at all

and you know you say well oh well I

don't know I just did and then the next

time a stimulus comes in that's similar

and you have that same kind of response

with another person maybe you recognize

it a day later instead of three days

later why did I do oh man I did that

again I really don't like that maybe

even you're going to send that person an

email and say Hey you know I just

realized that what I said to you

yesterday that's not what I meant at all

and this is what I meant uh you know

you're trying to clean it up a little

bit maybe there's some lousy energy you

left in in the space with that person

and then the next time that input comes

in and you react to it you know uh uh

you you catch it maybe three hours after

it happens and you call the person hey

remember you know I said this little I

really didn't mean that at home sorry

you know I'm really working on this to

understand why that happens but that's

not what I meant I mean this is here's

what I meant

and then the next time it happens you

catch it five minutes you're still in

the conversation with the person when

you feel threatened by something that

they said that they didn't mean is a

problem but you just feel threatened by

and five minutes later you're in the

time oh you know I said just a minute

ago I didn't really mean that man that's

that's just my old pattern and this is

the way I'm thinking about it now and

this is what I meant by that

and then the next time it happens you

catch the thought before it gets to the

muscles of your tongue

and you don't say it but that's the path

to awareness is that it's not like

you're going to go sit in a cave in

India somewhere and achieve

enlightenment you know it's just

pounding the pavement every day and

trying to clean up the mess that you

create in your life and the world around

you so that your energy body can be

refreshed you know and your psyche gets

refreshed you just keep cleaning up the

mess that you've made and you say well

what Miss I don't make any messes well

you are a blind one

deluded I posted a meme the other day

that I one of my patients responded to

and said this helped so much and the

meme was uh if you stop listening

through your wounds you might really be

able to hear what people are saying to

you

no exactly exactly and you know and this

process about when you recognize it it

may be two months after something

happened right but if you put the energy

into cleaning up whatever it is that

you've just realized was not what you

meant at all you put the energy into it

it might be an email it might be a phone

call it reinforces your desire for a

more authentic balanced response the

next time that energy comes in

but if you say to yourself oh that was

four months ago and you just kind of

write it off then it sits in there it's

like dirt in the space or I'm being

polite in my language now but it's dirt

in there right uh if it's in your

awareness you you need to clean it up

yeah this is a really good uh I was

talking to a patient yesterday and she

said when am I going to be over that

there overcome this part of myself and I

said well that's the wrong language it's

when can I have compassion for that part

that that has that response and meet

them with something stronger that's

loving you know and then then that part

gets integrated and brought into

wholeness you're not trying to kill the

part of you or overcome it or overpower

it that's actually what autoimmunity is

you know so

yeah it's uh yeah it's just like

bringing the anger that you might have

like you're a mother with a baby and

you're bringing the baby close to you

and the baby foods because just the

presence of that loving energy allows

the baby to then co-regulate you're

co-regulating yourself and yeah you're

replacing the anger with something

stronger you know loving loving

compassionate energy yes yes and

um it doesn't matter how long ago the

incident occurred if it comes up in your

Consciousness clean it up as best you

can clean it up every moment is an

opportunity that's right that's right

and you'll find at the time it may feel

kind of awkward and stumbling but it

will make you lighter and so that every

time you do that in life you get the

lighter a little lighter a little

lighter and then you catch the thought

before it goes to the muscles of your

tongue yeah right that's the goal and

that's when you're going to get over

something you're never going to get over

something you've got these these

programmed responses we call it PTSD

right but and that's the extreme but

it's just a programmed response to a

noise or a comment or a look from

someone for our survival we it get all

these stress hormones going and that's

how we learn to survive

what we need to do is reprogram

and to reprogram is exactly what I just

said you know all the things that come

up for you that boy I wish I hadn't said

that to that person last month

all right dear Kathy I just thinking

about our conversation a month ago and I

realized that I wasn't

um uh speaking my entire truth and

here's what I really felt

whatever whatever one of my favorite

ways of saying that I realized I wasn't

very skillful in my communication oh

that's good yeah that's good yeah but

it's embracing this concept that is the

formula to Bringing more balance to your

psyche and your energy body that's the

first thing and most important because

our brains are just going a million

miles an hour you know the thoughts that

keep coming and keep coming and keep

coming and we want to program in uh

giving attention

to those thoughts that we prefer you

know you can't stop the thoughts that

come in but they're like clouds going by

you know I remember this analogy that

someone gave every thought is like a

clout

yes

but what we do is of a

and we put that thought right in the

midst of our awareness and it's all

encompassing yeah and you know as a grab

it and stick some lightning in it that's

right that's right and it's much of that

is because when we were kids we didn't

have the conscious skills to deal with a

particular energy that came in so to

survive we did whatever we did and we

survived and that kind of response

mechanism is a savior life response

mechanism

and we just unconsciously keep using

that response mechanism as adults when

an energy comes in that's similar to

what we experienced as a kid we call

that the the strategy the wise mind of

your child self created that was perfect

for that time yeah you couldn't do

anything else yeah right yeah yeah and

that may be outdated now not skillful

because it was a child mind right and so

you can always you know people that have

an expectation that they were supposed

to leave home at whatever 18 years old

will say you know are supposed to be

cooked like a turkey with the little

button that's come out that's you're not

done you're not done when you're 18.

people like just begun right

yes so you have an opportunity to learn

new skills all the time if you're just

willing so each opportunity that you get

to up level your skills is one that you

know is a blessing maybe sometimes in

Disguise and uh it sounds kind of Airy

fairy and wussy that each time there's a

stress that comes in it it's an

opportunity

and you know it's it sounds like yeah

yeah whatever you know but that's just

being stuck in our current mode of

action you know that that we are

reacting to what comes at us and there's

a big difference between a reaction and

a response a reaction is an automatic uh

you do this I do that and automatic and

those thoughts that come up to your

tongue and blow up outcomes whatever

comes up a response is in comes the

energy and no no way I don't want to say

that I want to and then you respond

consciously

as opposed to reacting unconsciously and

it takes a lot of practice a lot of

practice to do that but it's very doable

and and it has profound benefits in

terms of the quality of your health

overall you can't just you just can't be

lazy with your mind and that's the thing

um you know automatic negative thoughts

are matter what they are because they're

automatic and just the relaxing of your

Witness

your Observer and you just have to make

sure that you're always

awake to it right that's what a wake

awareness is well I would I would say

you're awake as often as possible yeah

you know always sets us up for failure

yes

you know when you're aware pick up the

phone and clean it up yeah if you're if

you're not aware there's nothing to do

right but yeah when you're aware and you

say I'll do it later no

do it now yeah

so what does this have to do with

supplementation

uh

supplementation is a uh very valuable

tool it's one of the four sides of the

pyramid and there are some supplements

that help to re-pattern your emotional

response and that is when you can

increase your body's detoxification

capabilities and the geek term for that

um

uh is

um his

um uh his histolation methyl methylation

is a primary one and uh breaking down

histones is a second but when you can

increase your methylation pathway

then the genes that your body expresses

the genes they get activated are genes

that are not from the survival response

that you've already been programmed into

they've done this with a lot of animals

and they show that they can change

completely from a uh uh relaxed response

to a stimulus to the Target to go to a

relaxed response that if the First

Response with an animal is stress

response and that's because of how they

were raised as infants and they could

measure all that if they can increase

their methylation Pathways they don't

respond with a stress response they

respond with a normal more relaxed

response

so for people who

that's why there's so much work now

going on with methylation Pathways and

methylation genetics and lots of doctors

are doing tests now to see how how

um

uh accurate or how comprehensive are

your methylation pathways are you really

doing well there

and it's a simple it goes beyond MTHFR

677 and 1298 everybody we have a lot

more information

right right right right and uh one

nutrient that seems to be effective a

few studies that I've read on that and

they're probably more is Sammy

because Sammy just helps your body

methylate better

so when you methylate better your brain

responds is different it's not a react

or it's less likely to be a reaction

it's more of a response and with animals

they've shown that to be the case

so that's one answer to the question

what about supplements the second answer

is where we started is that you must

have an anti-inflammatory lifestyle

because you're if you're inflamed you're

much more vulnerable to reacting to the

stimuli in your life as opposed to

responding to that stimuli because

inflammation affects the brain hormones

called neurotransmitters and so your

brains can be very easily out of balance

and you're more likely to react as

opposed to

font

so

Sammy always looks really good on paper

to me and I thought oh I should try this

and I remember when I was very first

learning about genetics years ago

I I went to somebody that I had been

training with and said why do I feel

like I want to become a serial killer on

Sammy and I was just so over stimulated

and he mentioned that if you have a lot

of comt activity that it might be a bit

much you know and bring up some of that

manic kind of feeling so just be aware

that in the dosing on Sammy goes from

400 to 1600 a day it's pretty wide range

for a joints versus mood so just being

aware that you are always the the

Guru of your own body and start start

low go slow yeah I'd like to look at

some markers of methylation to see where

they're at you know I always look at

homocysteine yep there's there's two

ways of looking at homocysteine uh

the analogy I give is you know if you're

pregnant and you're checking your blood

sugar uh many Obstetricians will just do

a fasting blood sugar drop

but some especially if there's a history

of diabetes or uh problems in pregnancy

for women in the family they might do a

little more aggressive tests and they do

a glucose tolerance test where you drink

a bottle of sugar and then you do the

blood draw over a couple of hours to see

how does your body handle a little extra

sugar stress how does your body handle

it

or if you're checking the electrical

conductivity of the heart you can do an

EKG and it measures how the heart is

working but if you really want to know

you put him on a treadmill and you do a

stress EKG you know you push them a

little bit harder

the same with homocysteine that you can

do a fasting blood draw for homocysteine

but you miss a lot of them and if you

really want to know then you give them a

uh some methionine to take and it's a

fair amount a methionine is an amino

acid and depending on your body weight

it's usually somewhere between 18 and 25

capsules of methionine and you take them

within about five minutes and then four

hours later you check the homocysteine

again

and it's because the methionine is

supposed to be metabolized and both and

it'll produce homocysteine that's been

supposed to go somewhere else

and it's called a provocative challenge

and

um now you see the hidden ones the ones

that are missed so the regular

homocysteine

irrespective of what the lab says

according to Kilmer McCully The

Godfather of This research he said

anytime your homocysteine is above eight

your blood vessels are inflamed and with

the provocative challenge it's anything

above 25. uh your blood vessels aren't

claimed so you push that a little bit so

that's the first test that we'll do kind

of to look at methylation and the next

one is we'll do a organic acids profile

and look at it's called fig Loop it

stands for for minoglutamic acid

and if you're not methylating very well

your body is not using folate very well

your fig loo level goes up

and in that same organic profile MMA is

called methylmalonic acid it's once

again with methylation it's a marker of

how your body is using B12

so we're looking at B12 folate and

homocysteine it's just a couple General

inexpensive indicators of how well are

we methylating right now

so uh can you can overmethylate yes yeah

and drive the pathways push them too

hard and that has upstream and

downstream complications yeah yes yes

so what about the the environment that

we live in today that has so many toxins

and when we start talking about

detoxification

building our our not just our energy

body but our our physical

yeah it's it's it's a topic that in the

last 20 years has gained a whole lot of

traction and it's at the point now to

where it needs to be basic 101

understanding for everyone

for everyone this whole concept of

detoxification is not something you do

once a year or once a quarter you do it

every day meaning your choices of

lifestyle and your choices of foods and

things has to include the screening of

detoxification

and why do I say that this study just

dropped my jaw came out in the journal

the American Medical Association three

years ago

and the editors wrote A Commentary to

say this is an elegant study with

sophisticated biomarkers to show their

point

and you don't get that kind of stamp of

approval from the editors of the journal

the American Medical Association very

often what did they show

they looked at couples who were going to

assisted fertility centers

and they ruled out all of the other

potential contributors like obesity or

smoking or exercise they ruled all of

that out and they had some way of doing

that where the the editor said this is a

sophisticated study they did great so

I'm going to believe that they set this

up correctly

and they just compared couples who were

eating uh conventional fruits and

vegetables and couples eating organic

fruits and vegetables

and they broke each group into fourths

those eating the lowest amount of fruits

and vegetables the next the third and

the highest amount

and they compared the group eating the

highest amount of fruits and vegetables

conventional meaning they buy them at

the local supermarket and those eating

the highest amount of fruits and

vegetables organic so they compared

those two groups once again all the

other factors had been ruled out

what did they find

they found that if you were eating the

highest amount of fruits and vegetables

the Mediterranean diet or the rainbow

diet that we always talk about the

highest amount

of conventional compared to organic you

had an 18 percent less likelihood of

successfully getting pregnant 18 eating

the highest amount of fruits and

vegetables

and this was the kicker if you did get

pregnant

you had a 26 percent less likelihood of

a live birth

compared to the couples eating the same

amount of fruits and vegetables organic

that's

26

of those people eating as best as they

know how to eat trying to be healthy

they were losing their babies

26 more than those eating organic what

does that mean

it means that the amount of chemicals

that we are exposed to now that are

inside our body see there's two types of

toxins there's toxins that you're

exposed to in the air and on the end of

your fork and what you're drinking but

then there's also toxins that have

accumulated that are inside your body

um we all know that lead toxicity you

know lead gets in the bones and it's a

primary reason why you know the

incidence of Alzheimer's in 40 and 50

year olds if you compare male to female

much higher in men

early in earlier in life than in women

dramatically higher but when women go

through a change of life

all of a sudden within a couple of years

their their percentages are just as high

as the men well why is that well it's

because as they go through a change of

life and the ovaries stop producing

their hormones it's the job of the

adrenal glands to pick up the slack and

make about one-tenth of the estrogen

that the ovaries used to make

but most people their adrenal glands are

so worn out they can't do it and so they

have hormone insufficiencies and when

you have hormone insufficiencies and you

go through a change of life

when you don't have enough estrogen you

increase osteoporosis the bone cells

break down

and the bones are where the lead's been

stored for so many years in the minor

amounts that we're exposed to on a

regular basis but it accumulates in the

bones now it's in the bloodstream and it

gets up to the brain causing more

inflammation in the brain accelerating

the collateral damage of inflammation in

the brain So within a couple of years

after menopause the percentage of women

getting Alzheimer's is right up their

neck and neck with men

but it's the lead that was stored in the

bones that's why I did that whole

analogy and we store mercury in the

brain and organophosphates the chemicals

used on our fruits and vegetables in our

fat cells and in our livers and in our

lymph nodes and we uh you know if you

really test comprehensively

many of us are walking cesspools of

toxic chemicals and toxic debris that

we've been exposed to over decades and

you know it's it's a topic that people

don't like to hear

right uh because you have to begin the

detoxification process and that just

takes time you take baby steps and you

make sure you're throwing less toxins in

your body how do you do that you get an

air filtration system in your house

because the indoor air pollution in most

places are much worse than outdoor air

pollution well what do you mean my house

is nice and clean what do you mean well

everything that's in your house that's

plastic out gases the chemicals used to

mold plastic called phthalates for years

your plastic blinds are throwing

phthalates into them well there's

nothing in my air my air is nice and

clean really you ever look at the sun

coming through the window at a certain

time of day and you see the sun the Rays

of the Sun and you can see the dust in

the air that's what you're breathing

and it's full of all kinds of garbage

the flame retardant chemicals on your

sofa uh and on your bed and on your

sheets and your your comforters unless

it's organic cotton and you start to

learn about all of this and it's

overwhelming you know you can only do a

little bit at a time but when you do

these little things to change your

environment NASA published the studies

on house plants absorbing toxins in the

air because their astronauts were going

loopy in space and they never talk about

it on the news they said what's going on

these guys are not thinking they've got

lots of brain fog and they found out it

was the air and it was the phthalates in

the air that was affect causing

inflammation in the brain and the

phthalates were coming from all the

equipment with plastic counters and

plastic keyboards and you know whatever

else and so they funded the studies to

look at

uh uh house plans and which house plans

help to clean the air and it was jaw

dropping you get two six-inch house

plants in a ten by ten room you absorb

over 70 percent of the toxins in the air

just by doing that right so you have my

website I have 50 of them throughout my

house because it's a study

right

it's very easy you know if you've got

eight rooms in your house you go out and

you buy 20 house plants yeah and well I

would have a green thumb they're gonna

die then you buy more you know you you

just learn the little things that you

can do that will make a big difference

and uh uh it's all those little baby

steps you take that create an

environment where you're getting less

toxins coming into you your kitchen

cabinets and your bathroom cabinets if

they're not solid wood they're pressed

for it pressboard is soaked in

formaldehyde which outgasses for years I

can't smell it that doesn't mean

anything right now there's no evidence

that the amount of formaldehyde that

outgasses out of cabinets is toxic to

humans there is no evidence whatsoever

or that the amount of flame retardant

chemicals that outgass out of your sofa

every day is toxic to humans there's no

evidence none and that's how they got

away with this legally because you have

to prove that what a person is exposed

to in 24 hours is toxic to them it's not

but this stuff is accumulative in the

body and it accumulates over years and

eventually you cross a threshold now

you've got all this stored Mercury or

the stored cadmium or arsenic or lead or

organophosphates or uh

glyphosate from GMO foods that is

accumulated now it's at a level where

your immune system is fighting it now

you're getting inflammation and if like

just Google BPA

and thyroid and here come the studies

that show BPA can grab onto your thyroid

and many other tissues but if it grabs

on your thyroid now your immune system

is going to attack that that area

because that's not thyroid tissue that's

like thyroid and something I better

fight that and you kill that that knee

it's called a neo-epitope a new compound

you kill that neo-epitope but now you've

damaged the thyroid cells so now you

make more antibodies to your thyroid to

get rid of the old and damaged cells and

that becomes perpetual and here comes

Hashimoto's thyroid disease

and uh Dr Keisha is just world renowned

for talking about this stuff right and

uh but you have to clean your

environment you you have to stop

drinking out of plastic water bottles

you you have to uh make efforts to get

the cleanest water you can possibly get

I mean all these little things that'll

take you six months to a year to

implement but the result will be you've

changed your Paradigm you've changed how

you live your life if you address one

thing at a time

thank you so much Dr Tom

for coming on and sharing your wisdom

with us it's always such a pleasure to

just listen to you

well thank you thank you you know it's

that big picture idea that if people

have that big picture idea they weather

the disappointments that though you know

once again the Zen wave versus the

roller coaster right you know so the

more you know the more you can Implement

uh just a little bit at a time and uh

the greater your level of Health as a

result

thank you yes thank you Keisha all right

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the healing your energy body fifth

version and I'm delighted to be talking

about deciphering EMF protection product

claims with r blank who is the CEO of

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hosts the new healthier Tech podcast

that's a great podcast subject healthier

Tech Welcome to The Summit Series

hi thanks for having me

so uh electric sense of course is my uh

co-host from the last Summit that we did

about the energy body and it's how I

found your work we had Lloyd Burrell and

I would love to just start at the the

ground here and say what are emfs you

know for people that are still figuring

this out sure yeah great question great

starting point

emfs are a form of energy that are made

from the combination of forces of

electric electricity and magnetism

so they are effectively almost entirely

all invisible forces that are created in

the world around us by anything that

runs on electricity and anything that

communicates wirelessly now there's some

other forms of EMF as well

um one that we all know is is visible

light right so visible light like we get

from the Sun that is a form of EMF

energy now there's certain forms of EMF

with much more energy than visible light

and these are things like X-rays and

gamma rays and they have so much energy

that they can knock electrons loose from

our cells and uh that's why we call them

ionizing because they can ionize our

cells and we all know and it's

universally accepted one thousand

percent non-controversial that those

forces are very harmful even a very very

very small doses which is why when you

get a dental x-ray right they cover you

in lead and leave the room right because

we all know this stuff is super harmful

so then there are forms of EMF with less

energy than visible light

and they don't have the same amount of

energy right so they can't ionize our

cells in the same ways and that's why we

call them non-ionizing and it was long

thought that these were inert forms of

EMF that they were effectively harmless

uh to us and all living things at levels

where they don't cause us to heat up and

these are the forms that are emitted by

uh power lines electrical appliances

cell phones and Wi-Fi and so forth now

while it was long thought uh that they

were inert biologically inert it turned

out and as more recent Decades of

science have shown us that those

assumptions were false and that they

have biological effects even at very

very very low doses much lower than you

would be exposed to for instance by

talking on a cell phone

so this is really important because

we're surrounded now yeah what are what

are the sources you know because this

leads us to the discussion about

protection from but let's think about

you know now that we know what emfs are

what are the sources

yeah so I mean it's increasingly

everywhere around us I mean even if

someone you know like me thinks back to

when I was a kid that the differences

are staggering in terms of how much

we're exposed to but you know big ones

tend to be cell phones because uh and we

can talk about this in a bit but because

of how close to our bodies we carry them

right the power of EMF radiation

diminishes exponentially with distance

so uh even if the cell tower a mile away

is much more powerful than the phone in

our pocket odds are we're getting

exposed to much more powerful radiation

from the phone in our pocket than the

cell tower that's a mile away

so but it's everything that communicates

wirelessly so that's no longer just cell

phones and even just Wi-Fi uh it's

Bluetooth it's smart thermostats it's

smart refrigerators it's uh this entire

Wireless infrastructure that exists

around us

um not increasingly it's not even just

from the planet right we have orbiting

uh satellites that are transmitting

networks down to terrestrial level

and so anything like I say that that

communicates wirelessly then we also

have a separate set of exposures that

come from anything that runs on power so

that includes power lines power

Transformers electrical appliances in

the home even the wiring in our walls

now when you take all of this together

the amount of the world that has become

electrified and the amount of the world

that has become uh wirelessly connected

we are talking about an incredible

number of exposures now

um the in the the more urban and area

you live in uh the more exposed you are

going to be and that just comes from the

type of densification that that is a

feature of urban life compared to to

rural living where there's uh fewer

neighbors less infrastructure fewer uh

towers and and so on and so forth but it

is increasingly challenging

um for people to find places on the

planet where there are no exposures that

used to be easier and now it is it is it

is just not that easy

so

you know you have palm trees behind you

is one is the area where you live

something that's conscious for looking

at that because I know we have a place

on San Juan Island and that was one of

our conscious decisions was

uh trying to get into a more pristine

atmosphere so to speak yes for I mean

for for sure

um to me cities are for visiting and not

not from they're not they're not fit for

human life

um uh cities are a ton of fun they

provide a tremendous amount of benefit

and resources for people Economic

Opportunity Health Care infrastructure

cities are amazing but increasingly they

um are just very very stressful and I

don't mean that just in the the

emotional way I'm talking about all the

physical and physiological stressors

that we are being exposed to uh

effectively on a Non-Stop basis once

you're in an urban environment as I've

gotten older I've um and of course the

amount of EMF in the atmosphere has in

the environment has increased I find it

increasingly challenging to have a

satisfying night of sleep

um in a city

um compared to how I used to feel or how

I feel here at home

yeah I agree that's my experience too

so what is EMF protection then

so EMF protection is anything that uh

protects us from the harms resulting

from exposure to EMF radiation

um so there there's a whole if if you or

someone goes online just searches for

EMF protection even just on page one of

the search results you'll see a lot of

different kinds of options right so EMF

protection is not just one thing it

could be for instance products that

block the EMF radiation that shielded uh

products that claim to make the EMF

inert or harmless products that boost

our resilience against the harms that

come from exposure to EMF radiation and

even some that claim to be able to

reverse the damage uh from EMF exposure

so there are just a ton of different

options all of which kind of fall under

this broad umbrella of of EMF protection

so I know that you know you just said

you can go online and you can find a

whole bunch it needs true like you just

put the search term and EMF protection

you're going to come up with so many

different things and you know I mean are

these regulated

no so not at all I mean and so EMF

protection is entirely unregulated but I

mean that shouldn't be surprising to

people when you actually think about how

much of just EMF emissions are

unregulated in our lives this is just

largely an unregulated

um area of life there are certain

exposures that are regular theoretically

regulated such as from cell phones but

you know depending on where you live in

the world there there are a whole

bunches of exposures that aren't

regulated at all and you know one that I

I tell people a lot because it's just

everywhere is power line emissions

unless you are a utility worker working

in a power plant if you're just a

consumer living in your home or walking

down the street the amount of EMF that

you're exposed to from the uh any nearby

power lines is unregulated another

unregulated area

is uh cars as at least as far as I can

tell and we've put some effort into

trying to figure out what what the

regulations might even be but you can't

find what the EMF emissions are for any

car model that you might be interested

in

um which is obviously increasingly

important not just with the Advent of

hybrids and electric cars but with the

massive incursion of Wireless technology

into these cars we're talking about you

know from the from the batteries or from

the inverters uh from the radial tires

running on the road uh to the the uh the

Wi-Fi that you have running the lidar

checking the street front of you all of

these different sources in this vehicle

where we all spend so much time and you

can't even find out what the

manufacturer claims is the EMF emission

so the same is largely true for uh EMF

protection and what that means is it it

sets it sets this landscape uh where

consumers are incredibly susceptible to

misleading claims and false advertising

and you'll see that a lot again if you

just search for EMF protection you know

brought just that broad search term you

will see a lot of things that I would

argue fall under under that category

you know you're just describing the car

I bought last summer and I'm I'm happy

I'm having a moment

I was looking for all of the cool safety

features yeah

and now I'm having this little oh no

so I have been very careful about not

doing the we had

um Alexa in our house for a hot second

and then I said oh my gosh no like this

has to go you know and then uh I we got

a new oven and I said I don't want it to

be smart I don't want a smart

refrigerator like some of those things

but I forgot about my car yeah I'm sorry

to have brought that up luckily I don't

spend very much time in my car I you

know I'm in it maybe once or twice a

week just to go to to the grocery store

so it's very I don't I don't commute for

long distances so that's good yeah

that's good so I'm I'm like okay well

it's probably not the worst thing and

and um I also do the earbuds you know

that you just hook in that are Wireless

so I those seem like they're

that's not a good idea is that I totally

agree that yeah because I am I'm one of

I don't go around telling people not to

use technology I I advocate for a more

mindful use of technology and and at

least being aware of some of the costs

um but when it comes to airpods and

other Bluetooth uh headsets I am I am uh

very I advocate strongly against their

use it's another example that I use to

explain to people not only that this

stuff is barely regulated uh but it's

released into the public without any

long or even medium-term testing into

what the health effects uh are or will

be we don't know what the increased

rates of cancers for example are going

to be from earpods because cancers Take

5 10 15 20 years to form and the airpods

are not that old right and uh and and

then of course you know children are are

using these products and and it's it's

just it's very it's it's very

disconcerting I I advocate generally

quite strongly against the use of any

wearable uh Wireless technology because

when it as I mentioned earlier right the

the increasing distance is a is a it's a

big factor in in how strong your

exposure is going to be and with

wearable technology there is absolutely

no way to increase the distance so

you're always going to be getting a full

dose of the radiation that these devices

emit have the same thing about the

watches and rings that are tracking your

every Health move you know people are

are using them for health monitoring

information but at the same time I'm

like

um you can't sleep with this stuff

please you know and so well there are

some that uh and I generally I mean if

I'm asked about specific brands that I

happen to know about I'll talk about

them but just speaking of broad terms

there are some that effectively have an

airplane mode and so they'll be tracking

you all the time but they won't be

transmitting all the time and so those

are obviously the the better options

when it comes to to those uh wearable

trackers

in his airplane mode does that fully

Shield you or is it yeah almost I mean

it it cuts so much of the EMF that for

all intents and purposes I say it it

eliminates the EMF but anytime you have

some type of electrical signal traveling

on a circuit you're going to get a

little bit of EMF but it cuts out so

much of the EMF that I generally just

tell people it eliminates it okay well

that's good I do have a a shielding

device that my keyboard sits on which

we're going to talk about this now okay

now like the science part of it so

they're they're isn't a lot going into

the study of these protection EMF

protection and shielding devices right

um yeah so

you can uh what when well it depends

which type of stepping back it depends

which type of device you're talking

about

um so when you're talking about uh for

instance EMF shielding products which is

the kind that I make uh and sell you can

do uh Laboratory Testing but you

commission it it's not like published in

a peer-reviewed journal you you know

it's like someone like me going to a lab

saying can you perform a test and see

how much radiation this blocks and so

you can have that type of testing done

when it comes to the type of you know

scientific journal research no that is

not very well studied there there is a

uh there are uh there are there is one

study I'm aware of that actually shows

that a device similar to the one you're

using

um except it was a uh oh no that in that

story in that City it was it was uh it

was apparel but using EMF shielded

apparel can reverse uh will reduce or

reverse autoimmune disease which I

thought was very uh interesting and and

there was another study into uh a

product similar to the one that you're

using there uh except designed to go

underneath a laptop and that one showed

uh improvements in male fertility so

just by using a product like that uh you

can

um you can reduce the uh the the amount

of damage that results to sperm as a

result of of the EMF exposure so when it

comes to the scientific benefits of

reducing your EMF exposure a lot of that

is just

um uh The Logical conclusion right so if

a certain amount of EMF exposure

um leads to an increased risk of forming

X then logically reducing that exposure

would reduce your risk of forming X

right and so what you're looking for is

uh confidence and data to support that

using a product will actually reduce

your exposure right so that's where the

types of testing that I was talking

about just a minute ago that's where

those come in and those are called

attenuation tests and they show how much

radiation is attenuated or blocked when

you are using a given type of product

okay all right so so what's the first

thing someone a consumer should do when

really evaluating

these potential EMF protection products

so yeah the first thing I recommend that

people do is actually see

what the product is claiming to do right

because you know makes EMF safe or you

know makes your life better those those

aren't those aren't product claims but

if you look at a lot of these websites

you'll see that's actually what what

their message boils down to that's what

they are trying to sell you and

um then there's other ones does it claim

to block EMF does it claim to neutralize

the EMF does it claim to repair damage

from EMF these are all different things

they're all different types of pro they

may all call themselves the same EMF

protection phrase but they're all

different things and so you want to

figure out

what type of EMF protection you're

actually evaluating what is the product

claiming to do and how is this product

claiming to help me a lot of the time as

I was saying before

um you'll if you actually look at it

you'll see they're not making any real

product claims at all and so those are

the first set of EMF protection products

that that I recommend kind of just

walking away from you have to see if

um if they're actually making a claim or

just a sales pitch

then you'll want to see if the claim is

actually backed or back a bull or

demonstrable uh through science right is

are they making any claims that are

measurable that are quantifiable or or

not and is there any way that you can

verify that the product is because EMF

it's it's as you well know right it's

invisible it's odorless you can't see

touch smell taste it

um then you know when you actually read

about it there are all these long

confusing words right it's just very

easy to obfuscate uh ideas when you're

talking about EMF and so you want to see

if there's some way that you can know if

the product is working so those are the

first two things is is the product

actually making a claim and if so what

is it and then if they are is is that is

that claim backed by science is there

some way that I can actually know that

the product is doing what it is claiming

to do

so you mentioned earlier

um you know we've talked about EMF

protection and then shielding and you

know your company Shields your body so

what what is it that we're talking about

is the difference between EMF shielding

yeah

well so EMF shielding is a type of EMF

protection it is

um it so it was it's the technology

itself is almost 200 years old ever

since a British scientist named Michael

Faraday invented what became later known

as the Faraday cage and what he showed

was that if you weave certain conductive

Metals into certain patterns you can

block and deflect EMF radiation in the

opposite direction in much the same way

that a window shade can block and

deflect sunlight now since I believe it

was 1836 in the almost 200 years since

then we've gotten a lot better about

making those those conductive Metals

into really really small fibers right so

I mean like in my baby blanket they're

thinner than the width of a human hair

uh the silver fibers that go in there so

you can weave these uh very very thin

metallic fibers into fabrics and you can

create these Shields that block and

deflect radiation in the other direction

and so that is what EMF shielding is and

that is how we at syb use it in all of

our products uh that to reduce your

exposure to EMF radiation all of the way

because like I said it blocks and

deflects it's testable right it's

testable in a lab it's testable by you

at home because you can take a meter and

and see is this actually working to

reduce the amount of EMF that's getting

through

so talk about some of the products like

um you know what what what is a product

that uh someone when they go on to your

store will be able to find because I was

amazed at just how creative this is you

know I mean oh my

God right

so Mike thank you um my uh so some of my

favorites

um there's one called the phone pouch

which has been my best seller since I

launched it and that was at the end of

2015. and the phone pouch

sorry I should have had this handy but

there we go

the foam pouch is a pouch for your phone

and it has a belt hoop on the back and

so you put your phone in the pouch and

then you put the pouch either on your

belt or in your pocket and it makes it

safer to carry your phone because the

back of the pouch is radiation shielded

and the front isn't and that's to allow

the phone to continue communicating you

don't want a fully Shield your devices

because if you do

um a you won't if it's working you won't

actually be able to send and receive

calls and so if that's or messages or

whatever types of Wireless notifications

right and if that's what you're looking

for then just put your phone into

airplane mode but beyond that if you

fully Shield your phone and it's

actually working uh the shielding I mean

that means your phone because the way

they're they're designed to work it will

compensate for the interference by

boosting the power of the emissions and

so it can overheat it will rapidly drain

the battery and reduce the age of the

battery life so you don't want to fully

Shield your your electronics which is

why this is how all of my electronics

accessories are made

yeah and they're not supposed to

um

yeah for yeah no for that because

that gets into something because the

entire basis for cell phone radiation

regulations

um in the United States is so that they

don't emit so much EMF that they

actually heat you your tissue heat your

body and as everyone I know in a test

that doesn't always work right because

the phone can get hot you can feel it if

you hold it up to your ear you can feel

it on your ear or if it's in your pocket

you can feel it on your thigh and at

that level that's actually causing

immediate term damage that's called the

thermal effect and uh so you definitely

if your phone is so so warm that you can

feel it you definitely want it to be

further away from your body so this is

that's the number one tip that I tell

people who are looking just to get

started they want to make a difference

in their EMF it is to not carry your

phone in your pocket or on in your bra

or anywhere up yeah or anywhere

immediately adjacent to your body

because when you're doing that

um you're getting the full dose in fact

it surprises a lot of people to know

that if you read for instance the iPhone

manual they tell you not to carry it in

your pocket or hold it up against your

head

um but it's in the small print in the

manual so a lot of people don't realize

it's to me that's very frustrating

because that's literally how they design

the product to be used right is to hold

it up against your head and then in the

small print they're like don't use it

this way

wow if you have a surgeon's General

warning on it yeah they've done that

they've tried that I think it was

overturned so they did that in in

Berkeley it wasn't Surgeon General but

it was a it was a mandatory warning

label on on cell phones but I think the

wireless industry was able to overturn

that through lawsuits

um but any anything because right it's

one thing for me to stand here or sit

here as the case may be and until you

don't carry your phone in your pocket

because that is such an important thing

for people to to to do if they're if

they're looking to cut their EMF

exposure but phones have become really

really important and a lot of people

don't have options where to carry it

right so that's why creating products uh

like my phone pouch and I have a sling

bag which is made for phones plus some

bigger things and I have some more bags

on the way that's why those products I I

believe in so much because

I I really feel like uh it you know

because as we talked about earlier right

the the amount of EMF in the environment

is is tremendous and growing and it can

become disheartening when either you

look at you're living in a city you look

out the window and you see eight cell

towers and you look on Wi-Fi and you see

25 different networks that you could

join and you start to think how could I

what why bother I'm not but even when

that is the world around you it is how

you relate to the technology that is

closest to you that is so important uh

because you know thinking about this

this thing

it's designed to communicate over Mile

right because that that's the nearest

cell tower could be miles away so this

has to be powerful enough to do that but

then it's not just that because it also

has Wi-Fi and it also has Bluetooth and

it also the newer phones also have NFC

or near field communication which is

what's used for Apple pay and Google pay

and and those Technologies and so a

phone isn't just a single high-powered

phone wireless card it's multiple

wireless cards all operating at once

none of which were designed to be

operated while they're directly up

against your body but people are walking

around all the time with this and and

it's extended periods of time you don't

tend to walk around with the phone in

your pocket for two minutes you tend to

walk around for hours and so I really

believe strongly in making products that

make that a safer thing to do

my dogs are barking in the background I

want to share my screen for a minute

okay so this is Shield your body shop

and I just wanted to show like here's

here's the air tube headset here's a

beanie a baby blanket you know the a

canopy that you can put around your bed

uh bandana like underwear right this is

this there's so much flexibility here so

many different kinds of things that you

can do and when I look at something like

Shield your body neck Gator you know I'm

automatically thinking about people with

Hashimoto's thyroiditis you know I'm

thinking Ah that's such a good idea you

know and you know to prevent Hashimoto's

and to also make it so that it's not

another tender place that can be

attacked so

um anyway I this is the kind of I wanted

people to get an idea like here's the

sling bag here's the tablet pad and uh

you can just go through and slowly

slowly you know begin to shift things so

that you know you have like look there's

a wristband if you do want to wear a

wearable device you can you can Shield

it right yeah just fantastic so I wanted

to give people a glimpse in here

um at shieldyourbody.com

shop.shield yourbody.com and you'll get

an idea of what what's here

yeah thank you yeah yeah and uh we also

on the website have a just a ton of

information we have I mean literally

hundreds of Articles videos ebooks

um uh webinar archives we we go uh we

put a lot of investment in

um creating information that helps

people better understand EMF what it can

do to them and how best to reduce their

exposure to it

well I should have taken you on a tour

of the website everybody just go there

Shield your body.com you'll see there's

a whole section on resources there's a

section you know so uh it's definitely

an amazing resource for you to start

digging through this because I know that

people get really overwhelmed you know

like if you if you read about I mean we

kind of only covered a little bit of the

where your exposure is coming from right

and you know what what you can do and is

there are a lot of options for that now

and so I I appreciate that you're part

of the solution instead that we just

have to talk about the problem you know

I tend to not write about talk about or

educate people about something where

there's no solution to it you know yeah

so it becomes quite discouraging right

totally agreed yeah and I I like it

whenever I have a chance to talk to

people I like them coming away with a an

appreciation for that this is a serious

issue but B there's a lot of stuff that

you can do

without changing your life around and

literally without even buying anything

in fact sometimes a lot of the time

increasingly uh buying fewer things uh

is actually helpful to to reducing your

exposure so an early adopter of every

technology

right yeah not everything needs to be

smart not I mean I I've yet to hear one

person explain to me a value that a

smart fridge adds to their their lives

right I know yeah but it's getting

increasingly more difficult to find yeah

you know technology that's on the

showroom floor

as your options you know yeah so uh and

again I haven't thought about it with

cars I liked the idea that my car could

reach the road and I'm sorry to have I

just think of a different example for

next time yeah no it's perfect because

it gets you thinking like oh that's

right you know you have been kind of

focused on some of these other things

but yeah your car so uh yeah whatever

you can invent for the car I deeply

would appreciate it yeah so that so

without without going on to a whole

tangent there that's a a set of

exposures that are very hard to because

it's not just the car it's it's it's

it's all around you right and the same

thing is true if you're out walking down

the street and you want to reduce your

exposure to ambient EMF it's all around

you and so as great as you know my phone

pouch is that's not going to reduce your

exposure to to those types of so at that

point it is really just apparel and you

mentioned the neck Gator and I'm so glad

you did because I had it here too it's

my favorite piece of our apparel

um but it's apparel that will will give

you that type of protection out in the

real world and it's really the only way

to get that type of protection out in

the real world keeping in mind that it

only protects the part of your body that

it actually covers so wearing a neck

gaiter is great for your neck and

thyroid or if you wrap it around your

head your brain as well but it doesn't

protect the whole rest of your body

right so that's how because your men's

underwear in your shop and yes notice

there's not like a nice sports bra for

women in there not yet I would I would

ask for that okay

you're request is noted for me yes I can

confirm that the request is noted okay

because one of the things that I

encourage women to do is not wear bras

you know because there's a lymphatic

constriction and your risk for breast

issues including cancer and gosh you

know if you could Shield them at the

same time that's that's fantastic but I

don't want like an underwire bra I want

something that like is a camisole that

would be nice okay

I'll have to bring you on as a product

development I think that you ought to

actually yeah a lot of opinions about

this

I really really appreciate the work

you're doing and I I can't wait to wear

my gator you know as the as the weather

is changing here in the fall because

like when I take my dogs out for a walk

what you're saying you know I can can

buy one for each one of them yeah

and then I can draw it up over my head

you know and I think that's an amazing

amazing a solution for this so yeah

thank you yeah and thank you for the

opportunity to participate in in this

event it's a really fantastic event with

getting the word out on on reversing out

of it sees as a sponsor I really

appreciate it so yeah all right

everybody so again at shieldyourbody.com

amazing products and resources for you

to read about and this of course has

there is so much scientific evidence

about this with autoimmune flares so

this is a really important discussion

topic thank you R thank you so much all

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mine welcome to the reverse autoimmune

disease Summit Series I'm Dr Keisha

yourers

this time I thought in this series that

I would put together each day

a little webinar I love to teach so I

thought I would do this as a kind of a

classroom setting and we would each day

approach each of what I call the four

corners of the autoimmune puzzle and

give you some information that you can

take away right away

for reversing autoimmune disease so I'm

going to share my screen

and get this slide presentation going

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all right

so

these are things that I teach to my

health coaching students at the Academy

for integrative medicine and so as you

listen to this in each one of these at

the end of them I'm going to offer you a

slot in that training program if you're

interested because I often get after the

Summit Series

emails that say I really want to work

with you how do I do that and there are

I mean you know I have I work with

people one to one uh but sometimes you

are the person because you're the empath

and you're the one that's taking the

reins and your family's health or your

own and people are asking you questions

and so sometimes it's the case that

you're kind of the smartest one in the

room already and that's why you're

watching Summits and so I always say

that I I designed the academy for

integrative medicine for my patients who

are so much more

educated about some of these things and

a lot of doctors that I go to

conferences with so it's for the summit

junkie so I thought at the end of this I

would offer a a scholarship if that's

you a summit junkie who really wants to

know how to individualize this to your

own uh health

Journey so everything that I talk about

in the next five days are

are things that are gone into in a lot

more depth in my book solving the

autoimmune puzzle if you haven't read it

yet and in its companion bug the quick

and easy Autoimmune Paleo Cookbook so

those two books have a lot more

information than when I can offer you

know in in 40 45 minute

webinars but I just wanted to you know

give you that as a resource in case

you're interested in diving a little bit

deeper so if you don't know who I am

my doctor does not an MD it's a PhD I'm

a nurse practitioner with a specialty in

integrative medicine I'm board certified

in functional medicine and ayurvedic

medicine my PhD is in sexology I'm a

certified psychotherapist trauma

informed five modalities for trauma

informed therapies uh certified energy

worker yoga meditation teacher and

conscious dying Doula as well as a

masters of divinity student and the

founder of the academy for integrated

medicine Healthcare certification

program

and what all of this says is that I'm

really curious I have a very curious

mind and my mission is to really help

people end their suffering so my uh my

Mantra so to speak is having the

opportunity like Hippocrates said

healing is a matter of time but it's

also sometimes a matter of opportunity

that what these Summits offer for people

is an opportunity to get a lot of

amazing information that they can then

individualize to their own

stories

so my story if you haven't heard it

before my apologies if you already have

is

that when I was short shortly into my

30s you know just newly into my 30s I

was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis

and it happened as the my patients

always describe it it felt like it was

all of a sudden but it wasn't all of a

sudden it never is it takes anywhere

from 10 to 30 years to develop an

autoimmune disease so it definitely

wasn't all of a sudden

but I had four little kids I did things

like run lots of marathons and drove

myself pretty hard and it was a very

high energy person and very driven and I

always say there are four P's in

autoimmune disease perfectionism and

people pleasing and the poison of past

pain and and the ayurvedic Paradigm

there's a lot of pita in a person that

has I um autoimmunity and those four

things were definitely present for me

and so when I looked back at this woman

I think oh man she just there was so

much she didn't know and she was really

driving herself into the ground

literally so one day I woke up

and it was like someone had taken the

batteries out of the Energizer Bunny

which is what my friends used to call me

and I was just flattened and I had

gained about 10 pounds of puffiness all

over my joints and I was in a lot of

pain and it just completely annihilated

with I was exhausted I woke up and I was

just exhausted and so I got in I knew

there was something really bad happening

and got in to see a physician and I was

asked if I had any family history of

autoimmunity and I said yeah I think my

grandfather had rheumatoid arthritis

which I've circled him in this photo

that's him

and I was telling the story earlier this

year I turned 56 in February

and I realized that this man my

grandfather died at the age of 56 with

R.A and he was wheelchair-bound for a

number of years with it so you know the

things that we're going to be talking

about all week in this Summit Series all

the things I've always talked about the

things that we get to dive into and

really really absorb

that stuff wasn't known to this

generation of people on the screen so

you know my uh my grandfather didn't

know any of the things we're about to

talk about which is why at 56 because I

am healthier than I was

back here a lot healthier physically

emotionally mentally and spiritually so

you know and and he didn't have that

opportunity to use R.A as a call to

action as a way of saying hmm something

I'm doing here is not working what is it

let's investigate so what happened for

me that day in the doctor's office is I

was given two prescriptions one for

Methotrexate and another one for a

non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug and

I was told take these and when you get

worse not if you get worse come back and

we'll we'll change your meds and that

unfortunately 25 years later is still

was being said and I went home thinking

you know I'd ask this her I said is

there anything else I can do I'm really

disciplined you know I'm I mean I run I

make my own food and she said no I'm

afraid that you have to you know drawn

the Short Straw on genetics my dear so

on my way home I contemplated I thought

yeah it is genetic my grandfather did

have this and he's already dead and is

there

is there any way around that and you

know back in those days that wasn't a

conversation that was being had a lot

this thing called epigenetics we didn't

really understand a lot about that and

so I had decided I was going to do some

extra research and I found

uh an article in PubMed where we keep

our medical research about the

usefulness of yoga and autoimmunity so

I went to my first yoga class the next

day and that yoga teacher said something

about this word ayurveda which is the

sister science of yoga it's 10 000 years

old it's from India and what this yoga

teacher said is he was walking through

each of us holding our postures as was

enough for me to go home and look it up

again and I discovered that ayurvedic

medicine all those thousands of years

ago thought about autoimmune disease and

cancer as undigested anger and I

remember thinking about the uh the idea

just the concept of digesting emotions

digesting feelings and memories and

experiences as needful the same way that

I would digest an apple

and I thought oh and it was so new and

revolutionary I was an ICU nurse in

those days we did not think this way and

so I thought okay so I I started

learning how to meditate and and

eventually became a yoga teacher and in

that process of learning to become

introspective instead of driving myself

like a crazy woman

I started thinking about the word

autoimmune

I was dancing in front of my third eye

one day

and I thought oh that means I'm killing

myself

Otto is me attacking me

is there anything I can do about that

because I really don't want to die and

and then I thought when's the first

time I wanted to die and that was really

important because then I started

following this little Golden breadcrumb

Trail backwards in my memory during that

meditation asking that question why was

I killing myself and when was the first

time I wanted to die because I realized

I was really kind of committing suicide

in a societally acceptable Manner and I

didn't want to die

well in that process I discovered this

10 year old little girl version of

myself who was being sexually abused by

the vice principal of her Elementary

School

and I just remember like my my mind's

eye dropping on her and seeing her and

just going oh she wanted to die she

didn't she was so confused she didn't

understand what was going on she didn't

have the right words obviously to tell

people what was happening because

nothing was helping my dad was out to

see I was a Navy brat and anyone that I

was talking to about it I wasn't saying

the correct words to help them

understand

I didn't know the word sex or a

molestation or abuse or any of those

kinds of words at that age and so it was

a different era and I was raised with no

television and so I don't think I even

had the vocabulary to say what was going

on so when I saw her I thought oh she

did want to die and this must have

something to do with this current Health

crisis I'm having and it turns out

science does tell us that that is true

and so through the next few webinars

that I do for the series I'll talk about

ways of detoxifying you know the things

that we think about automatically our

chemicals our viruses our bacteria you

know all all of the things we think

about as toxicants but then we're also

going to talk a bit about some of these

things like where are the undigested

parts of life that are causing toxicity

in your your mental emotional and

energetic bodies which then keep you

separate from your spiritual body and

I'll show you a diagram of what I mean

by that

so when I give talks to doctors and you

know I work for the I'm on the faculty

of the institute for functional medicine

and I I give a lot of of

um talks to teach doctors to do what I

do

and I always say this like this is one

of the primary reasons the people that

are coming to see you aren't getting

better is because every eight minutes in

the United States a child is assaulted

and that's the only the reported ones

and so these moments of whether it's

capital T trauma which is the kind of

trauma we're talking about right this

minute sexual abuse physical abuse

domestic violence emotional

psychological

um spiritual abuse abandonment neglect

all of these are what you could think of

as capital T traumas and then the

lowercase T traumas are the ones where

we feel rejected or betrayed and all of

us have those every human in childhood

has those experiences those little T

traumas even if it's not capital T and

it turns out the science says that it

doesn't matter if it's capital T or

lowercase T it makes changes in your

nervous system reactivity Pathways that

impact everything and I'm going to

explain all of that as we go go but what

I wanted to just start off with is you

know this is a picture of me as a little

one and I keep a picture this very

picture by my computer all the time

because if I do get triggered about

something and and some toxic

response happens I.E cortisol floods my

system because I'm feeling unsafe or

unwanted or invisible or you know not

heard not whatever it is

then I know it's not my 56 year old

version feeling that it's this little

one and so I can connect to her and I

can say you know what that's not

accurate and I'm listening to you so

there's there's a lot that we can do in

attachment trauma issues and you know

attachment Theory tells us that

depending on our developmental State

when things occur then we have

attachment problems and Trauma

hang on just a second

it's okay

yeah my alarm just went off and so we

could actually heal that so that's over

the years what I've been able to do and

my rheumatoid arthritis was able to

reverse within six months I never took

those medications because I dove in and

really started working on this level

immediately and so oftentimes people

will come to me who have tried tried

everything right and they haven't been

successful because this part hasn't been

dealt with so we're going to talk in

this particular webinar this talk about

autoimmune disease as today's big Health

Care crisis we want to create a bridge

between hope and despair we want to talk

about the freedom framework which is how

I reversed my own autoimmunity and what

I do with others now what the symptoms

of autoimmunity are in case you don't

know if you have an autoimmune disease

the people that are listening to me

10 to 30 years to develop one then

everyone's just like you know it's

always said that everyone's working on

developing cancer it's same with

autoimmune disease whether or not it

blossoms fully or not that's a standard

American model of medicine we have to

have this diagnosis right but the way

that ayurvedic medicine thinks about it

is imbalances that are going deeper

deeper deeper because we haven't figured

out the root cause and fixed it so

that's what the freedom Frameworks for

and then we'll talk about what types of

illnesses are autoimmune the role stress

plays in illness and that nervous system

that I was talking about

so autoimmune of course means we're

attacking ourselves like I figured out

that day in my early 30s after I'd

learned to meditate I was like oh this

is me attacking me there's nothing to

look for on the outside of me it's me

and that was important because there are

things on the outside of us but It

ultimately if our bodies are attacking

us we have to really be cognizant of

that and say okay I want to really look

at this

so we know now that there are over 50

million Americans and I know it's not

just Americans watching this webinar so

my apologies for that but worldwide we

have autoimmunity on the rise there are

over 140 autoimmune illnesses now rather

than just a hundred and many of them are

illnesses that we already have names for

but we didn't know they were autoimmune

like we used to call type 1 diabetes the

autoimmune version of diabetes but now

we know type 2 is too and type 3. and so

there's you know people didn't realize

that raynauds or restless leg syndrome

are psoriasis or rosacea eczema all

these skin issues vitiligo

excuse me could actually be autoimmune

turns out it is

our bodies attacking ourselves

now women have 80 percent of the

autoimmune diseases

80 percent that is huge and then some

autoimmunity is more common in women

than men and more common in men than

women and so this gives you a chart that

looks at that and I found this

fascinating when I was first diagnosed

because I thought well why do women get

so much more autoimmunity and that still

is the question in the literature I have

some theories about that one is the way

that I think our brains that's how I

think our brains are different than

men's we have a different size of corpus

callosum and a different way of

communicating between our left and right

brains and I think because in tribal

days we were responsible for keeping the

toddlers out of the fire pit so they

don't get burned up tanning the hides

grinding the corn telling the stories

making sure we know what's poisonous in

the perimeter and so the medicine right

where the Sabertooth tiger Den is said

that the children don't get attacked

like we have so much inform information

we had to hold while the men were out

hunting and Gathering

that we became multitaskers and in that

needing to remember where the dangers

are

I think we have velcro brains we

remember our hurts too

that's why I say one of the four P's of

autoimmunity is holding on to the poison

of past pain like if we're hurt by

something we say oh I'm not going to

forget that you know but then I'll show

you a way of tracking that but that can

that can actually hurt us even more it's

good to remember the stove is hot don't

touch the stove but we could we can take

it a little for far further than just

that and then the other piece around

this is we also have more estrogen

receptors than men and we have so many

estrogen reproducing and mimicking

chemicals in our environment these days

and so we have more fat tissue on us too

and that's where those lipophilic or fat

happy toxins like to live in our fat

these wonderful breasts that's all they

are right

and so and then we wear these great bras

I don't wear bra anymore but that you

know that that cut off the lymphatic

system that then make it so that fat

tissue can't drain the toxins so then we

have this beautiful place that we just

contain all of our toxins so there are

several reasons though and then tend to

have more autoimmune diseases than men

we can actually do something about all

of them too

so autoimmune diseases are the fourth

largest cause of disability among women

in the United States

it's the second most common

chronic illness now I think it's

actually first now because we have now

started seeing that many heart disease

has always been number one in the US for

deaths

and chronicity but the thing is is that

we're starting to say oh heart disease

is autoimmune too so that means

autoimmune disease is the biggest Health

Care crisis really in the world in

industrialized countries

so autoimmune illnesses are labeled and

treated according to their target organ

rather than the root cause so in other

words if you have Hashimoto's

thyroiditis it's all about the thyroid

and the way that the standard medical

model the industrialized conventional

medical model thinks about it rheumatoid

arthritis we're looking at joints Ms

we're looking at nervous system you know

so each rosacea we're looking here lupus

we look multi-system

Scleroderma the same but we tend to

think about the target tissue and I

think about that as well if we're

thinking about the target tissue

and we're just running around in the

forest moving this target so the arrow

can't hit it why aren't we going to the

Archer which is the immune system who's

firing the arrows and tap them on the

shoulder and say hey can you stop firing

arrows please at that Target and have

that as the conversation rather than

just

talking about the target tissue now I

gave a Hashimoto's webinar I give a

webinar every month about some form of

autoimmune issue and I did one on

Hashimoto's last month and what I was

talking about is the fact that

if you go to an endocrinologist who

happens to be

comprehensive and holistic enough to

actually do autoimmune markers with your

thyroid check

and you find that it's an autoimmune

issue rather than just a thyroid issue

they still will say to you okay well

let's just keep an eye on it until your

thyroid is hypo functioning and then

we'll give you thyroid meds that's it

that's all they have

and that's that's the way it is for all

the autoimmune illnesses you know for ra

it was the same thing for me rheumatoid

arthritis take these two medications and

when you get worse come back we'll start

talking about immunomodulators that's

not okay that's why people are following

through the cracks so we really want to

build a bridge from this old way of

thinking about the target tissue only

into a new way of really saying okay

this is actually about the immune system

and what is aggravating it when I think

about autoimmune disease nowadays I

think about a a bull in a Spanish Arena

and there's a matador there he's waving

his red cape and the bull is charging

after it you know that that angry bull

who is actually getting things shoved at

them to make him look more aggressive is

your immune system when you're

autoimmune and we really want to make

that bowl as your immune system

like Ferdinand the Bull in the flowers

and the daisies right under the tree

who's really peaceful that's what we

would like that has that strength to

fight off an attacker if needed but sees

everybody as kind and compassionate and

friendly until otherwise proven that's

what we would like so when I talk about

bridging I'm talking about really

looking at how we're perceiving okay so

brain what that relay system is which is

hormones what what does the brain tell

the body what to do next

because that's who's triggering your

immune system and then what are your

ideas about yourself and your life those

are your meanings that you make up we

have to look at those because those are

the ones that are actually triggering

your brain to say you're not safe and

some of those messages from the brain

that say that you you know there's the

red cape in front of the ball as your

immune system will be things that are

dietary sometimes it's microbial in your

gut and sometimes it's about the way

that you detox and so we're looking at

really bridging right we want to make

sure that we're bridging yourself from

being in a combative relationship with

yourself

to be a collaborator with yourself they

had a collaborative relationship where

you have compassionate curiosity with

your body and you're asking it how can I

support you what do I need to do instead

of feeling like you've been betrayed

you're by your body and it's not working

and it's needs to toe the line

and then we get frustrated and angry

and that doesn't make anything better

so each person is a puzzle and there's

no one right way of doing this I always

tell people there's no such thing as an

Autoimmune Paleo protocol it doesn't

make any sense each person is different

so we if we're going to solve a puzzle

we want to dump all those pieces of the

puzzle out on the table turn them all

over and then the first thing we do is

we look for the corner pieces and we

want to Anchor that puzzle and then

we'll look for the edge pieces to make a

frame and then we'll fill in the middle

but first we find the corners and the

corners for your puzzle it doesn't

matter what is going on for you we want

to look at those same four corners and

we have to kind of do it at the same

time because one of them is your

genetics yeah I had RA in my genes for

sure one of those environmental toxins

which this Summit series is being

devoted to one of them is gut health and

the other one is trauma and how well you

deal with your stress today and what

those nervous

Pathways do in their reactivity now all

of those things influence

how your genetics Express themselves

which is why I was able to reverse my RA

in six months and not take meds is

because I somehow knew that right away

when I was asking the question like how

come I'm doing this to myself and really

got in there

people are always wanting to know what

is the thing that caused their problem

what is the one Smoking Gun and there is

not any such thing as that I call it

critical mass I spend half time on San

Juan Island and I have to ride a ferry

to get over to the island and when they

load the ferry up they do so in a very

methodical way there are fairy workers

who point to each car and say where it

needs to go because they want to load it

with the understanding that it has to

float so if all the cars are on one side

then is going to tip so that's actually

how our bodies require us to work with

them too so whenever we get triggered

into an autoimmune flare know that there

has been a lot of stuff that's stacked

up on that scale beforehand and then

that final thing tips it it might be

Epstein-Barr virus that flares because

you had a crisis and you got too too

tired it might be a child birth it might

be a huge job stressor or the loss of a

loved one

it can be traveling it can be moving

into a new house where there's a ton of

mold but know that if any of these

things are true and you've got an

autoimmune illness as a result of them

that it was because you were already

primed for that then that it was in your

genetics too and that this one last

thing

being capsized your boat

so when we say that then that means we

have to start looking at all of the

things that were already on your scale

and start taking them off because it

doesn't you can't just remove the one

thing that capsized you you actually

need to get a lot of lightness in this

other side that got heavy

so we think about genetics we're talking

about

single nucleotide polymorphisms that

have to do with a number of different

things in your body not just this Gene

equals ra or Ms or diabetes no we're

talking about the genetics responsible

for your detoxification Pathways for

methylation for your mood for what kind

of diet you're supposed to be eating

that's actually in your genetics

we want to look at not just gut

permeability but also mental

permeability because

if you don't have good boundaries in

your life and I always say you have to

start with good boundaries with yourself

first then with the others in your life

then you're going to have leaky gut too

which causes leaky brain and all the

other things that occur that's the

result environmental toxins don't just

mean

mold Epstein bar lime herpes coved it's

not just those things those chemicals

it's also your thoughts your beliefs the

meanings that you you created when you

were a child that create lack of

self-worth perfectionism people pleasing

and all of that you know the trauma

component can lead to a lack of

self-nourishment so all of these things

create part of that critical mass and we

put them on the freedom framework so

we're talking about solving your puzzle

so after we get those four corner pieces

in place where you understand that's

what we're looking at all of it kind of

at the same time because they all in are

interdependent and interrelated

then we start looking at the edge pieces

of the freedom framework so we want to

uncover I call these the four C's so I'm

kind of slippery around the first C it's

uncover the root causes confront the

data connect the dots and then create

the life that you want with intention

and you can't do one of them without the

others first so uncovering the root

cause means that we're going to look at

you the your physicality root causes

right we want to look at your mind we

want to look at your heart your spirit

and in your story about the places where

you had again trauma

and then we want to confront the data

and so we do functional medicine

Laboratory Testing we look at your

weight we look at your energy level your

libido level your quality of sleep and

what is the data that we get from that

and then we want to connect the dots

between your lifestyle choices that

you're making and that data

so in other words if your genetics say

that you're really really really gluten

intolerant which I am in my genetics and

I eat gluten anyway then I'm going to

connect the dots between oh here's why

you have inflammation and pain and why

your your weight's not very good is

because your diet's not matching your

genetics connect those dots okay same

with beliefs and behaviors and mood and

within your relationships

in my doctoral research which we'll talk

about in another webinar uh I actually

discovered that the number one reason

women have low libido is from having

unhealthy unhappy

unsatisfying unfulfilling

relationships romantic Partnerships that

they're unhappy in doesn't mean

anything's wrong with the person they're

coupled with it might be because of

their beliefs and behaviors and meanings

they created and now they have a

so-called nourishment deficit in that

relationship as their perceptions and so

then that actually creates all kinds of

illness

so I have a TED Talk called have you

heard from your libido lately where I

talk a lot about that

so

create your life with intention is the

last one so you know how you get to see

all these books about

um creating a different mindset and and

just you know think positive a lot of

Attraction and manifestation that's all

great but if those other pieces haven't

been put into alignment with you first

then this stuff doesn't stick the the

create your life with intention so we

really need to go in and you know look

at what needs to be reflected on the

mirror where clearing that trauma

self-confrontation is really important

for giving and then reframing and then

you find that your happiness level goes

up so you don't do this first though you

can't and it's not even appropriate to

you know it's a stepwise process of

digestion

all right so unfortunately what I've

discovered after 25 years in medicine is

that actually over 35 35 years

oh wow yeah 30 years

sorry I had to do my math really fast

that's a lot I've discovered that a lot

of times people have to feel fairly

miserable to be motivated to make those

shifts they would really rather do a

pill even if it's a supplement so this

work that I'm talking about is is very

much

engaged in integrating work it's not

passive you know it's not something you

just shift your mind and then it's all

better

so

I always say you know it doesn't matter

what the autoimmune illness is because

I'll get emails that say do you have any

um any experience with helping people

with myasthenia gravis or do you have

any experience helping somebody with

Graves or rosacea or pandas you know all

of it is autoimmune and so the answer is

always yes because we're talking about a

Target rather than what's going on at

the root which is the same okay

depending on your genetics is where the

target goes and so symptoms of

autoimmunity are are really can be

anything right because it depends on the

target tissue that some of the the more

common ones fatigue is right up there

and brain fog and hair loss and

digestive problems and you know low

libido and it it means the Vitality is

sinking for you so you're going to feel

all these things your weight might be

off you could have joint pain rashes

muscle weakness menstrual cycle changes

if you're a female

the most common organs affected by

autoimmunity are the skin the joints the

hormonal systems red blood cells and

blood vessels connective tissue and

muscles

and it causes stress sometimes you know

when people say well I don't have any

other stress in my life except for

what's happening in my body right now

and that's that's accurate it's very

stressful to have your body not

functioning the way that we want it to

and so when you think about it

we are wired to be like the zebra where

where we run from the Lioness if there's

a lioness on our tail and then either

one of our herd gets taken down and then

the pride comes and eats them and then

the lion the the zebra herd will just

with even sometimes Within

eyesight

or earshot will stop and start grazing

again because they know the pride is

totally fine now they've been fed

they're not hungry and then everyone can

wander along and graze and all of their

organ systems come back to homeostasis

humans don't do that very well Robert

sapolski did this really beautiful book

called why zebras don't get ulcers and

it's because of what I just said you

know they can return back into that

space of alignment very quickly where we

have all of these different things like

telephones and computers and driving and

you know like all the things that can

make us we can instantly see things that

can stress us out

so I always think we live in a time

that's that's

um

whose Hallmark is one of overwhelm and I

always think about overwhelm as the

gateway to perfectionism you know

because if you're overwhelmed that means

you're overwhelmed because you're maybe

not doing things up to the level that

you would want to do them and that's a

that's a sign of perfectionism

so then we also have this past pain and

hurt okay that we hold on to

and then the relationship to

satisfaction that I was telling you

about so these are one of the reasons

that women get 80 of the autoimmune

illnesses and then is it hormones that

you need because that's often what I get

is someone coming in looking for

hormones

my alarm just went off again

instead of looking at the the root of

that and saying oh it's because I feel

stressed overwhelmed I have a really I'm

really unhappy my relationship right now

um all of these things that are

happening are causing my adrenals to be

an overdrive which then if your adrenals

are in overdrive your body says oh we're

not surviving so then all of the

hormones that are responsible for if you

feeling good and having libido and

reproducing are going to be hijacked by

your fight flight freeze or faint system

your sympathetic nervous system because

survival wins over reproduction

so then I always say we instead of

really thinking first and foremost about

oh I need to take bioidentical hormone

replacement therapy I really need to

think about the hole in the bottom of my

boat that why my hormones are off in the

first place and they're both appropriate

bioidentical hormone replacement therapy

but also fixing the hole in the bottom

of the boat

because we really want to know like is

this 4f stress response system going off

all the time internally and for every

five minutes that you are upset in this

sympathetic nervous system fight flight

flight

fight faint or freeze you know I call it

the internal harm and alarm for every

five minutes you're in that state it

takes your body eight hours to recover

five minutes eight hours when I learned

that math I said to my body I am so

sorry I have so much debt to you

so that's really how stress impacts your

hormones you know we have this perceived

threat which it's it's up to our

perceptions and then we go into that

fearful thinking and then our adrenals

hijack everything from our ovaries or

our testes and We're Off to the Races

now what does this have to do with your

immune system well that cortisol that's

released from those adrenals breaks down

your gut wall and then when you have a

leaky gut then bad bugs can move in

and you know you then you're you're into

that autoimmune issue

it's always a hyper Vigilant mind equals

a hyper Vigilant immune system

instead we want to be in the 4f life

support system parasympathetic right

where we're fed we're friendly we're

fertile and we're Fearless we call it

the rest and digester the feed and breed

system

and in that space we're more willing to

engage in self-care and and

self-nourishing and breath work and

meditation and a gratitude practice and

prayer and contemplative work being

introspective

that's the only way we can is when we're

in that parasympathetic place

so you need to find your why right what

is the why that's going to help me

engage in self-care to that level

how am I going to change my autoimmune

mindset I have to figure out my why so

for me it was being confronted with

methotrexate

and I have four little kids at home who

are used to the Energizer Bunny is their

mom and I'm now debilitated just really

overnight is what it felt like and so my

why was I don't want my kids to have to

suffer because of the things that are

happening to me right now so I really

want to get after it and so I did which

meant a lot of trauma work and learning

how to kick my sugar addiction learn my

genetics learned what my diet was that

was supposed to be for me learned what I

what my toxins were that I had on board

which I had and you know really really

work all four corner pieces of that

puzzle and within six months the

autoimmunity was in remission so I

always say reversing autoimmune disease

doesn't mean curing it because I could

get rheumatoid arthritis back today

I could start working on it today and

probably have it back within weeks

so I don't I don't do the up and down

everything that I learned back then that

switched it I I'm stay with I don't eat

gluten I don't eat sugar you know I make

sure that I engage in self-care and I do

it according to my individual

four corners of my puzzle because what I

do is going to be different than what

you need and we really want to

individualize all that

so people always ask me what's your

autoimmune protocol right what's Dr

huge's autoimmune illness protocol and I

always say no there's no such thing

instead we want to make sure that we

test don't guess we want to look at what

what are the meanings and the beliefs

you created when you were a kid in

response to your different experiences

in life and then what sets your nervous

system going we don't want to just do

like Bagel nerve ish you know like work

at a vagal nerve level where we're

saying oh let's just do vagal nerve

stimulation no we want to learn what

setting you off in the first place right

then sure emotional Freedom technique

fatal nerve circulation these are all

great for getting the tidal wave to come

back again so you can get your your body

back to homeostasis but what I really

like is to get it so that you learn how

not to go off in the first place and

then your immune system can settle

so this uh

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have at the end of each of the talks

this week and then I'm going to be

giving you information about how to

detox on all these levels using that

freedom framework

so until tomorrow uh

I hope that you're really really

enjoying the series and all of the

remarkable people that I have here that

are talking about their expertise

um just I mean just really really good

talks and so think about as you're

listening to them think about the

freedom framework and how that all

applies for you because at the end of

the day it's really important that we

individualize everything to your system

your body your life experiences

all right until next time be well and

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