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When we first started the band,

I think our, we had one main goal which was like,

can we make a living off this and can we keep doing it.

And then that happened.

We're in Columbia, Tennessee. We're making a record we think.

So, normally this would take us three years to do.

And then we're gonna try to do it in three weeks.

-What's happening? -Not much.

Let's do this thing.

Hey.

Okay, so, dining room.

We'll have an extra leaf that we'll put in

to make it a little bit bigger.

JOSH: It is a little bit scary to come into a house

and know that when we leave in three weeks,

we'll have to have something to show people.

Usually, our band takes a long time to make records.

DUSTIN: You wanna check that piano out?

Yeah!

That sounds great.

SETH: We just released Out of Body.

There's no pressure to release more music,

but we just feel it, and we want to.

We wish we could be touring right now,

but since we can't, we want to make music.

We're in a really cool spot. This house has a lot to offer.

TYLER: I didn't know what to expect.

I thought it was going to be like, more haunted.

Spooky, in a weird way, and it's just been so great.

KONRAD: I mean, you're in a home, so therefore,

you feel like you're more at home.

You're not worried about a million other things

that might be happening in your world,

because this is your world. This is all there is.

I think there are some real benefits to doing it in sort

of an old-school way.

And like bringing a lot of analog gear

and kind of like, turning a knob yourself.

Moving a recording studio into a house is a nightmare.

Let's just be honest.

KONRAD: Yeah, I mean, we're building

a studio from the ground up.

There's not a studio here before we step through the doors.

I think somebody's singing in the shower right now.

MAN: It does sound like that.

I mean, guys, seriously?

C'mon.

We had written all of these songs sort of

during the pandemic time.

There's a little bit equal parts panic

and equal parts excitement,

which I think is really cool about coming into any record.

I guess especially when knowing there's not a bailout on it.

We're gonna be here for three weeks.

We're gonna cut 10 songs, hopefully,

and whatever those songs are at the end,

we're gonna be left with that.

Just sitting in the room and hearing you sing it,

I'm hearing more of the room than I am you,

and I feel like that that's,

if there's any sort of cabin-y feeling song,

this could be it where it feels sort of,

like when someone puts on headphones,

it's gonna feel like you're right there with them.

Yeah.

And I think that could be really cool.

Konrad Snyder is engineering this record,

and he is so unbelievably good at what he does.

He is taking everything that we're giving him,

and he's sort of arranging it, orchestrating it sonically.

Felt like I was with

-I think that's down. -The whole thing?

Like I was with you

Like I was with you

Past every minute

Yeah.

JOSH: For us, being a band for as long as we have,

if there's anything that we can be like,

"This is the first time we've ever done this,"

we're gonna go for it.

So, for us, I think it's the challenge

that makes it the most exciting.

What, like our record standard,

that what we would put on a record music-wise,

or at least tonally or whatever,

we might wanna lower that standard some,

and it's more about the emotion of it.

It's like, feels good, feels good, move on.

And there's a freshness to me, at least so far,

that it feels like that.

Holding the emotion as the sacred part

of the process and not the perfection

of whatever we're doing.

'Cause I think people will connect to it more,

and I think it will just be a different experience

in a good way.

Filming is scary, because we've always said,

you know, if you ever do a documentary on a band

and they lose a member, so we can't afford

to lose any more members this time around.

I'm not sure why we brought a film crew.

Does anybody know why we brought...

People are gonna get a chance to see the band

in our real element, which is, you know,

we love to make music and hang out together.

We went intoOut of Body

with one goal which was, let's try to enjoy it.

We've never made a record where we've actually enjoyed it.

And we crushed that part, so I do not want

to forget lessons we've learned from it, you know?

The creative freedom that you encounter

when you're enjoying something is just incredible.

Nobody should feel like they don't,

like if you're like, "I don't get that lyric,"

or, "I don't want," just speak up,

and let's do it, and let's just dive in,

because this is probably, I would say for me,

the most insecure I've been going

into a project with music

because it's the least feedback that I've had on songs before.

One with Bo not being around.

So, we have a quick time to do it, so don't,

if you think something sucks, don't waste time telling me,

'cause we'd rather do it now then whenever.

Creativity, at its core, is taking chances.

It's not about doing things that you know will work.

To think that we're gonna make a record this janky

and put it out is also super inspiring to me.

Over the years, I've always thought that like,

my friends that I'd play the demos of the songs to,

they're always like, "Oh, I liked that demo better."

And it's probably because, yeah, it wasn't overthought,

or it was the way that they heard it the first time

that they fell in love with it.

Whatever the reason, I do think there's something magic

in that, and it's hard to allow yourself

to let that out into the world.

Well, do you ever feel a song as deeply

as when you first write it?

-No. -No.

Rising from the ash

Is death and taxes

Too much practice

The lights of the disco

I could be a hero

I felt like I was winning

Only lasted a minute

Take over the radio

Just pull me back

Was outside my window

The story goes

Be wrong some times

On heaven's door

What I'm here for

KONRAD: Any time you can inject hope or joy

or gratitude into the world, you're making the world better,

and I think in 2020, that is especially important.

Be wrong sometimes

I think that anybody who has met Bear

would agree that that man is a force.

The house I grew up in

Somewhere that I can

I can't help but to think of Joseph Campbell

and "The Hero's Journey."

We're all the hero in our own story, but we forget it.

It's been such an experience seeing

these guys remember who they are and the power

that they hold.

There's just a brotherhood and a camaraderie that comes,

and everything flows out of that.

It becomes magical.

-Sick. -Boom.

Konrad is a total space cadet in an awesome way.

He worked on my side project, too,

Wilder Woods, and that's where I met him.

I remember saying from the back of the room,

"This might be a bad idea," and he turned around

and was like, "No, Bear, it's not a bad idea,

it's an amazing idea."

KONRAD: It takes a person experiencing

a lifetime of emotions.

It's just when that person is ready,

the song can manifest into the world.

He's been playing more of like a straight,

-Yeah. -Yeah, it feels like

it wants to like,

push toward that double-time kind of thing.

Yeah.

Woo!

That's cool.

Without each other knowing, each of us

called our wives this week, and we were like,

"We are having so much fun!

Like, this is amazing.

The songs are going great," you know, so excited.

My wife described me as being "giddy."

Like I just haven't felt this excited to be making music

and be making a record in a really long time,

and it's sad to say that, and it's sad that

that was the reality for most of us.

It used to feel like anything we did was life and death.

It was our total identity and, you know,

if it didn't come out right or didn't work out right,

then maybe the band would be over,

or we'd be over, you know?

And I don't think any of us feel like that now.

In the ground

On in her heart

To look him down

Right at night

Her fade over me

Bear sends me a lot of great songs,

and then the ones that are like,

really great, just kind of, stop me in my tracks.

Even if I'm having a busy day I'm just like, whoa.

JOSH: Yeah, I've always loved songs that are autobiographical,

and this song is Bear's perspective

of his relationship with his grandmother.

She came to Jesus in a flood in 1953.

Very descriptive.

A parent telling a child like, you know, "Jump to me.

"I will catch you."

And there's certainly low points in life

where all you really want is to get back

that ability to trust like it's the first time.

To trust someone like you've never been wrong before.

KONRAD: Bass is the foundation of the song.

It allows everyone else the foundation to build off of.

JOSH: Seth is a vibe guy.

I've always known him to be the guy

to change the environment in the room, lighting incense

or just turning the lights down and being like,

"Hey, man. It's all good!"

And he has amazing legs.

If you ever get the chance to see his legs,

In terms of a piano player,

I was watching Josh play the other night,

and he is unbelievable.

The speed, the soul, the syncopation.

He's a crazy talented piano player.

Don't let the rain come

Our reservation

We need so much

I would climb

And we climb here.

To find it

What if we went one phrase earlier, so halfway through.

Let's try it one more time.

The other day my son woke me up and jumped in bed with me,

and he was just laying there, and he said to me,

"Dad, I think it's really cool that my dad's in a rock band."

And I was just like, "Thanks, buddy."

And he said, "Not everybody's dad is in a rock band."

I said, "That's definitely right.

"You're definitely onto something."

The thing that I think both Josh

and Seth bring that complement Bear so well is their belief,

one in themselves, but also their belief in him,

and their belief in the band.

It'd also be cool if it went to like, just electric,

like the moment it's just like,

and then it builds to go like way down.

We need some dynamics.

Yeah, it just kind of feels like it's rolling

on its own on the whole time, but if it did go

Yeah.

Some like, awesome, like, edgy, you know.

'Cause then that going down to nothing builds huge

into the chorus, and then...

Yeah, let the chorus be big.

Madness I'm invited

You are, you are

That is hot, boy.

Woo!

I think growing up, for me, music came

from playing in the church.

It's kind of impossible for me to separate the two

at this point.

Hello!

I'm gonna sing you a song that might be good.

JOSH: When I was younger,

the church I grew up in was a little bit stiff.

First, a piano, organ, and a choir.

And I'll never forget when somebody in the choir,

we were singing a hymn, and somebody went...

And you could, I mean, I still get cold chills

thinking about it.

Both.

Is there a difference?

I don't think there's a difference.

I mean, I think we connect

to our spirit through our emotions.

It's the gateway.

Did I sing on the verse too long, off the,

"that I'm always trying to prove

that I don't deserve your time, 'cause I am,"

I sang an extra line right there.

TYLER: If you didn't, it's really long.

Yeah.

There's an extra lyric here.

Can I borrow your pen real quick?

All these venues, you load in, it's like,

through where the kitchen is and all that stuff,

and I'll be walking through there,

and I'll hear somebody be like, "Who's playing tonight?"

You know, and it's like, "I don't know.

"Some Christian band."

I don't think I would be here or play music

for a living if it was not for the little church

that I grew up in that my parents took me to,

because that was where I learned to play music.

Bear's mom gave me piano lessons,

and the drummer of the church would give me drum lessons

in exchange for buying him coffee from the gas station.

We were in this small country town,

yet it was like a little rock n' roll worship service

on Sunday mornings that we got to be part of.

I refrain from saying, "Jesus was like a rock star."

I don't mean that.

I mean more like the way he lived was not safe

or absolute, you know, so I think that's kind of cool.

And that's something that we've never really struggled with.

We've always thought music was rebellious.

And so even when it's like the most positive of messages,

it's always like you're playing it in a way that's freeing.

You're kind of outside of your body,

for lack of a better way to say it.

You are, you are mine

What do they say, "You can't take the country out of,

the city, no," we're rednecks.

That's it.

They had this stuff that they would rub on you

to keep mosquitoes away, but once it's on you,

it turns your skin Smurf blue.

Okay?

Two hours later: Papa Smurf.

All the way up to here.

I had to cross back over the border,

hand over my passport with a hand that was solid blue.

I mean it was like, dark blue,

and I was sick from my malaria pills,

and I was just like, "Ugh,"

Tyler's maybe the best guitar player

I've ever been in a room with.

He's been playing a ton of 12-string on this record.

The sounds are just something that you can only deliver

from a lifetime of dedication to your craft.

What's happening here?

I thought you were doing a solo.

BEAR: All right, all right.

Who is Randall?

Hmm.

I've been waiting to talk about Randall.

Randall's a character that I'm not even sure is real.

I think he's a thing of myth and legend.

I'm not really sure where they found him.

I think Craigslist or something like that.

Kind of crazy, we met him where he was working

at this campground, and I remember being like,

"Well, we like that guy. He's got kind of a good vibe."

And at the time, it wasn't about like,

what skills you had, you know?

I gave him a card, and I said,

"Hey, if you ever need anything, just call me."

And they did, just two weeks later, they texted me,

they said, "Can you tune a guitar?"

And of course I couldn't.

I don't think he could tune a guitar,

and we found out he couldn't really.

Day before a show, and Randall's tuning

all the guitars backwards.

And the piano player sees him and he says to him,

"Hey, do you know what you're doing?"

And he's like, "Yeah, yeah sure."

And he's like, "You're stringing those backwards."

And he was like, "Oh, yeah, I mean,

"sometimes I do this just to stretch the strings out,

"but I'll fix it, don't worry about it."

Like the E string and the E string are backwards.

I'm talking about the most rookie mistake you could make.

Not only as a professional guitarist.

-Were your guitars like- -No, no, I was caught.

Like, somebody caught me

before I could hand them out for the show.

BEAR: I think that was my experience with Randall.

It was just that he was like, in over his head, you know?

This is my bunk area right here.

This is going out to the living room.

But I loved his attitude about it.

He would always say "yes"

even if he didn't know how to do it.

Night moves

That was probably one red flag for the band,

but they kept me around, and a few shows later,

I'm kind of getting the hang of it.

I think we were in Phoenix, Arizona or something,

and the band is probably playing

only like 250 people, and I ask him for a guitar pick.

And he comes out,

and he didn't know what to do, so he comes out,

and we used to have, all of the picks

would be in this big barrel thing.

Randall brings the whole box and just knows Bear

needs this now, and in that hurry and that hustle,

he was running up the steps.

As soon as I start running up the steps...

I feel myself floating.

His foot clips the top step.

Picks just fan out all over the stage,

and it's slow motion, but I hit the ground so hard,

the front row was all like, "Ooh,"

His whole body goes outstretched on the stage

and he falls on his face.

The picks, hundreds of them go flying in the air.

And his face is sideways, and he's like looking

at the crowd, and people were like, "Hahaha"

in slow motion.

Randall is a completely unique take on what it is

to be a person, and I mean that in the best way.

I need some glasses so I can do that thing.

Usually, when you say "Randall," he goes-

At the time, he had these huge, Coke bottle glasses,

so his eyes were huge, so we were just questioning,

in a dark room, could he actually see us, you know?

-We're like, can he see us? -It's hard to say.

'Cause it's like a vision challenge.

He definitely wants to, but every time

I'm looking over there, he's like...

If you're like, jamming out, sweatin', hair in your eyes,

and you're like having a good time.

-Get more of this. -I need this.

I'm just over there just jamming.

He's loving it.

We found out that Randall played drums,

it was such a shock to me.

I mean, I'd known him for like, a couple years,

and so, did not know the guy played at all,

but especially as good as he plays.

Joe Stillwell had left the band,

so we didn't have a drummer, and we were doing auditions.

Randall starts playing on this demo that we were doing.

Me, and Bear, and Josh were in the room

looking at each other and we were like,

"My gosh, this guy's good."

Randall was our guy.

This is the third album I've gotten to be a part

of with these guys.

Getting to watch the growth, it's just amazing

to hear the stuff that's being recorded.

Really inspiring.

World dream

And start this thing

The wind in my hair

Through the trees

World, tip of my fingers

Take me down South

I really don't care

In the backseat

In my hair

And we were undefeated

And we were undefeated

There's that high that like week one always has.

Week two is like put your boots on, let's get to work.

Well, Bear has written a song this morning,

a new one that we've never heard before.

So, we're going to figure out if we can actually learn

how to play it enough to record it

and maybe put it on a record.

I don't know.

Fun things are happening here at the Magnolia House.

So, here we go!

BEAR: My demos start the process,

and then it can really go anywhere.

Chances is a song I wrote one of the mornings here.

It happens like a gift.

My dad was a preacher, and I used to clean the church

as a job, and they used to have a guitar on stage

and the chords, and one day instead

of doing what I was supposed to be doing,

I went up there and tried to figure that out.

Pretty immediately after I had three chords,

I was like, "I wanna write songs."

The song has to be good in its basic form

just played with one instrument.

That's kind of a benchmark we've set for ourselves.

Is the song great just with a voice and one instrument?

Misunderstanding

It started by like, I would Zoom Josh pretty much

every day while I was writing the song,

and I'd be like, "What do you think about this?"

JOSH: He'd send me a text that'd say "Facetime?"

And I'd jump on, and he'd be like,

"Does this sound like NEEDTOBREATHE?"

If somebody has an idea, somebody else will build on it,

and then it kind of just does this thing

to the point where you're done with it,

you're like, man, that's a beautiful part.

Who's idea was that?

And you kind of look at each other and are like,

that was all our ideas.

Misunderstanding

BEAR: I don't want to have the final idea.

I just want to have the first one

that's probably really broad and probably not that good,

but at least it's like, the general direction we're going.

Now, let's all figure out the path that it's gonna go.

We'll never know

You catch your breath

Keep on dancing

MANAGER: Do you have any bounces

you're allowed to share or are you gonna hold 'em tight?

We probably will this weekend.

We have a couple.

We've been trying to move them along,

but we're also not doing one song at a time,

so they're all probably at like, 90% right now.

Why don't you just fly down here and listen to them?

Yeah, c'mon down.

I mean, Tyler's made 10 flights.

It's pretty easy to get here.

We could give you a map.

That's nice.

There's a song called

Don't Throw All The Good Things Away.

What led me to write the song was some

of the feelings with Bo as he was leaving the band.

It'd be cool to have Natalie

on it and get her perspective even.

We're kind of leaving the bridge unwritten

right now 'cause she's such a great writer.

So, hopefully we'll get something written

while she's here, which I think'll be dope.

Where did you find this place?

Yeah, we just kind of literally moved in.

Guys, Natalie's here.

-Hi. -Hello.

-How's it going? -Good.

NATALIE: Hey, how are you?

-Nice to meet you, I'm Seth. -Hey, I'm Natalie.

Nice to meet you as well.

Hey, Josh, nice to meet you.

One of my favorite records that came out last year

was the Highwomen record.

The beginning

To find out that Bear was friends with Natalie,

I was like, "Oh, that's awesome man!

"We should have her sing on something sometime."

You have a way with words, and when you combine

that with your voice, it just jumps

out at people and sounds emotional.

It sounds like something someone hadn't tapped

into in a while.

When you played me those first couple of songs,

I remember thinking,

I just haven't really thought this deep in a while.

You like those deep waters, and that's hard to write from.

And it's hard to sell from.

It doesn't do very well.

It can be very hard to sell from.

It just depends on what's going on in the world.

No, I think it's interesting.

I think I'm just naturally a really shy person,

so the things that I want to say to people,

it's easier sometimes in songs

than it is in conversation probably.

The song that you had me sing on is probably

one of the best songs I've heard in a while.

It's a very timely song, and it's a very,

I don't know, I relate to it in so many ways

as far as, people who love each other, you know?

To me, that's what struck me was that, hey,

we've been through some rough times,

but don't throw all of this away for this.

Don't throw all the good we've had together.

There's a line about burning all your bridges, like,

is it worth one victory to burn all your bridges?

The older I get, the less that's something I want to do.

And hand me down pain

And I just gotta say

The good things away

I know that was making it, but it's close.

That was good.

-You sound awesome. -You too.

I'll learn the chords before we have to do it.

No, that was awesome.

We're not on stage or anything.

From your lips to God's ears.

Yeah.

Yeah!

I wish I knew what the chord was.

She's kind of over the whole rockstar thing.

I think she is a rockstar in a way,

she's in a big band now, but she just still feels

like sort of a facilitator, which I think is amazing.

And she's funny and southern and all that.

It'll be a good time.

And hand me down pain

This world and this place

And I just gotta say

While your family weeps

The good things away

-Yay. -That's awesome.

NATALIE: Beautiful song.

If you wanna talk about like this sort of redemption story,

I think some people think about it as this journey

that's like you're climbing a mountain,

but it's really not.

It actually happens at the bottom.

In my house tonight

Gone to sleep

That in the light

It's a hard thing to be in a band.

It's even harder if your brother's in the band.

And my heart is clear

Bear and Bo traveled the world together,

took pictures together, experienced life together,

and what a gift they have to be able to do that

for as long as they did.

I just think that's really awesome.

But it was very challenging.

I think that people know that me

and Bo have a sort of very passionate relationship

to say the least.

And we fought a lot over the years,

and we've talked about that, me and him,

and, you know, we've gone to counseling together

and all these crazy things.

There's been plenty of work that's been done there.

I think both of us had a hard time being happy together.

I think Bo decided that his time in the band was over,

and I guess he lost faith that

we could work out those differences.

BEAR: We're still figuring out what it's like

to play music without him and go to the studio without him.

I do think one of the positives

has been there's less tension in the room,

and I think that's huge for Josh and Seth.

Bo and I, we would just run the conversation so much,

nobody could speak up.

So, a big part of that rehabilitation for me

was saying to Seth and Josh, "Hey, man.

"If I'm not being cool, I need you to stay in the room

"and tell me.

"Maybe I'll be pissed in the moment, but later on,

"I'll realize that you were right, you know?"

Of heaven and earth

Be the same

Not my only home

Love with stone

Let the world go

All of this in

Like a west Texas wind

Oh how I need you

-Hey! -There he is!

BEAR: I can't, no mask.

I got my test, I'm negative!

How are you, man?

Great to see you.

I can't tell you how excited I was

to see Joe Stillwell when he showed up

at the house the other day.

I've been going 90 miles an hour with my life

and my family,

and he's been doing the same thing with his,

so like, we just haven't seen each other

in like, eight years.

So, I'm in the little homestead.

-Oh, in the little cabin? -Yeah.

I saw it on the website. They call it "The "Abe."

-"The Abe." -

-Yeah, I feel like Abe Lincoln. -

That's the time period.

What a reunion and awesome thing to be back

in the room on my stool next to his playing bass

with him playing drums.

Also hearing again just the sheer power

that he delivers as a drummer.

Nobody hits the drums as hard as Joe hits the drums.

He was around for a decade, and then when Randall came in,

he had to play the drums that hard,

or it wasn't NEEDTOBREATHE.

You know, when Joe left, I was just like, I cried

and just lost it over this thing.

And then when a year or two goes by, we got back up,

and I was like, "Oh, man, it's so good to see you."

So, the hotel owner thought that we were Taylor Swift.

We were like, "Oh, no, no.

"We're just opening for Taylor Swift,"

but they still had the red carpet,

we had that penthouse suite room.

Oh, yeah!

Don't you remember sitting in there?

There were like four chairs facing each other trying

to figure out the setlist

-for the album order. -Yes!

BEAR: It was like a six hour meeting, I remember.

Yeah, it was crazy.

And then we got to what we thought was an agreement,

and then some of us went to a baseball game,

but then some of us didn't,

and then there was a conversation change,

and then we came back and it was like, "No, no, no.

"We gotta re-vote."

Yeah, there was a lot of back and forth.

-And I think it was about- -One song.

It was one song,

-I think it was- -White Fencesgoes second-

It was White Fences,yeah!

It was like, second or third.

And I was like, "I don't care!"

Every decision was just like, agonized over and argued over.

I feel like the culture

of the band at that time was a little toxic.

I didn't want to be around it anymore.

So, I had to leave.

BEAR: We might have done great things in the band,

but I didn't enjoy it like I should've.

'Cause I wasn't really present.

I was just like, well, we've got to do this to get to this.

I regret that.

You look back at some of the things and go,

wow, that was amazing, I can't believe I did that.

And I just wish I would've enjoyed it more.

And so, I think we're kind of moving into that

as a band it seems like, we really have to enjoy it,

or we're not gonna do it.

The process that we have now, conflict-free,

is giving us so much more life and so much more enjoyment,

and this is what I always wanted.

Brought to you by...

Here comes trouble.

We ain't got nothing planned, come on.

-How are you? -Good to see you.

Sir, how are you?

I'm good.

A lot of my favorite times were actually

just the hanging out.

Actually playing the show was some

of the most stressful moments that I had.

I've been a part of records after I'd left.

I wanted the friendship to continue.

I didn't want it to feel like this parting of ways.

Like "I was mad at you, you were mad at me, we left,"

kind of thing, it wasn't like that at all,

and I still love the band.

NEEDTOBREATHE is the name of a band that,

you know, made in college

and probably would've changed it 10 times

if it hadn't have grown into what it has grown into.

Feel like this

I can't lose

Like it's right

Every time I'm awake

And the thunder pass

Live like that

Are the thing

Just a conquest

A dream sometime

I could show you

Your side, babe

Run the concrete

Run the concrete

MAN: Hey!

You made it.

-What's happening? -I'm COVID free!

ALL: Yay.

-Yep. -How you guys doing?

MAN: Great.

Good to see you guys.

-Hey. -Konrad.

-Hey, what's happening? -Jon.

BEAR: We have looked up

to these artists for a very long time.

Switchfoot was a band

that we all listened to when we were growing up.

So we have a lot of respect for them and for Jon.

Yeah, man, c'mon in.

This place looks amazing.

It's pretty cool.

We've destroyed it, but it's pretty nice.

He's such a soulful person,

and I think we've got a lot in common when it comes to that.

It was really interesting to meet him

and kind of get to know him.

We have totally different personalities.

I can be very serious, and he's just like, "Whatever, dude!"

Very west coast in that way, which I love.

I mean, just get creative, I mean, if it's just for us.

And then for the next one, if we're on a boat.

-Nice. -Because it's just like,

why not?

-Is it a Hornblower? -It is, dude!

Really?

We played the Hornblower!

That was good times.

They gave us a really good deal.

Carry Meis a song that I wrote during the pandemic.

It didn't have the whole thing written.

It was like a verse and a chorus.

Sometimes the best music is the stuff

that comes really quick.

And this was one of those songs that he just,

he sent me a demo, and then within an hour or two,

I sent him a second verse and bridge, and there it was.

I mean, even 330 minutes later he was like,

"Here's the second verse. What do you think about that?

"Here's the bridge. What do you think about that?"

It was as easy of a write,

and we weren't even in the same room.

We were just sending texts back and forth.

Yeah, 'cause in the demo you guys both sing, right?

Is that the timing of it?

-Yeah. -The way you did it was...

It's the music then the vocals.

JOSH: It's super fun for us to get to do this.

You know, the studio environment,

and just to be able to see people.

I think, right now, in this season of life,

it's like really good for the soul to see a familiar face.

They're gonna be like, they just set a goal

not to overcomplicate this, and now watch it happen,

they did it!

What's that Dolly Parton quote?

It takes a lot of money to look this cheap?

Yeah!

It takes a lot of money to look this cheap.

That's so good. That's it.

Last night we had fun. Everyone had fun.

I've had a lot of horrible experiences on stage.

When we first started out, I hated playing live music,

because I was just awful at it.

I'd much rather play guitar in my bedroom

and get it right and then press play.

So, the first time my wife ever saw us play live,

we were playing, it was either the Viper Room

or the Whiskey or somewhere up in LA.

The first song I broke a string and my strap fell off,

and like, I fell over backwards.

Like, tripped over the monitor.

So that's like, three out of five.

Yeah.

And then we had a guy playing keys with us,

and there was this one thing

that was gonna trigger something,

and the keyboard just started triggering things

out of nowhere.

So it was one of those ones where it was like,

worst case scenario.

KONRAD: Did this happen all at once?

All at the same time, the first song.

RANDALL: His songwriting inspired me

and almost everybody else I know.

It was kind of one of those once

in a lifetime opportunities, you know,

him getting to hang out.

He's exactly the kind of guy you want him to be.

Just down to earth and just super genuine.

When Randall joined the band,

he got married pretty quickly after.

-Very quickly. -Very quickly after.

And I don't think when he was planning the wedding

he knew that we were coming.

RANDALL: It was never an option.

And so, we go to the wedding, and the band table

at this wedding is like,

we're sitting around at a table like this,

and there's a dance floor down this way

for the reception part.

And a Switchfoot song comes on, which was-

-Souvenirs. -Yeah.

So, the song comes on.

Randall's on one side, and his wife, Samantha's,

on the other side.

RANDALL: We had a choreographed dance.

Oh, no joke, a choreographed dance.

-No way! -Yeah!

And it was one of those where it started slow,

so we had no chance to say, "Is this really happening?"

And they're just walking slowly together,

and then they face, and then they come towards us.

RANDALL: We were like, it was like deer in headlights.

I could see his face just like, "Oh, man."

2020 has been a great distiller of why you do what you do.

There is no fiscal reason to make music right now.

The only reason why you'd make music is because you love it.

The size of the universe

That no one could earn

Farther still

I never return

In the ocean's deep

I'm in too deep

I remembered it right after.

KONRAD: In this record, there are a lot

of lyrics pertaining to self-judgment.

I struggle with anxiety and depression and always have.

And we're sort of an inspirational band,

so it's hard to talk about sometimes.

From growing up in the South

and sort of experiencing this strong,

cold man who will not share feelings,

will not share emotion, I've even heard people

in my family say, "I don't have emotions."

And I'm like, really?

There were many years where I'd miss my kids,

and I'd cry myself to sleep every night, and nobody knew it.

I have almost quit this band like six times.

When you join a band, you're like joining a circus.

The road's just a crazy environment.

There's so many different dynamics of fame

that are just entirely unhealthy,

that the human heart was just not conditioned for.

Extreme praise, extreme criticism.

KONRAD: The people that I see are incredible human beings.

But even just a drop of that self-judgment, it makes me want

to shake them and say, "Wake up.

"Wake up to the gift that you are living in right now.

"You're an incredible person."

And I would say that about anybody

that I've shared this space with.

In a time where there's great uncertainty,

can we use music as medicine to speak

to the different pains that we're all feeling?

If we can do that, mission accomplished.

Honestly, I'm having more fun making music

than I had since I first picked up a guitar

and wrote my first couple of songs.

We're all looking at each other

like this might be the best record we've ever made.

Just personally, you know, who knows if anybody

will like it, but I think our fans will love it.

I had to add another line.

People coming in with songs first thing in the morning.

I don't know what to do with this.

What do I do?

So, we just made another line.

Sorry I don't have a ruler to make it-

MAN: Uh, we do though.

We could!

We could make it good.

JOSH: Look, I'm just trying

to keep ourselves organized here.

KONRAD: Packing up, there's a lot more stuff

than I remember bringing.

It's kind of funny how, when you get rolling,

you kind of don't think about it,

and then at the end,

you're looking at a mountain of equipment.

I really feel like everybody's personality

is represented in this record.

I'll be there

BEAR: We're going good.

We're all kind of getting used to it.

Feels like we'd like it not to end probably.

JOSH: I don't know how to describe it.

I feel like there's something between us.

A chair and some cables.

RANDALL: You know, we love each other.

It's really not any more complicated than that.

I love these guys.

You notice when Konrad's working at the console

in back, and he's got his headphones on,

and we're whispering what the thing is,

and he's like, "Do you think we should turn the piano down?"

And we're just like, "Yeah, we just said that."

Listening to each other and respecting each other,

we know we'll get to the place we're trying to go.

Everyone's got the same goals.

JOSH: The goal for us was to walk away with a record

and go into mix.

We're not gonna take any time afterwards.

If you don't get it down while you're in the house,

you don't get it down.

I think making records is hard every time.

Not in the sense like they shouldn't be personally hard.

It's hard enough to make the music.

JOSH: There was never a moment in my life

where I wanted to do anything else.

I never thought I kind of might want to be a doctor,

or I kind of want to be a firefighter.

All those jobs are great, but I've always wanted

to do music.

And I can't imagine doing anything else.

There will be a crazy appetite for live music,

and hopefully an appreciation for it.

I just think that that moment,

when you can finally get back on stage

and people can celebrate together,

there'll be something kind of amazing about that.

We're going to go back into touring

and there's two full albums ready to roll,

plus all of the songs that the fans have learned

to love over the years, so, it's gonna be awesome.

Man, what a difference a year makes.

Just been a really, really hard year,

like maybe, probably the hardest year of my life,

but I'm still here.

I'm so grateful to be here,

and I know that this record is a special one.

I'm so glad to be a part of it.

Deep inside my heart

Hey, everybody, let's kiss the door on the way out.

Thank you, house.

-Thank you for your spirit. -Fine!

Guys, I'm really loving this.

All right, I'll be over here.

Don't hug me!

-Wanna stay another week? -Yeah, just one more.

All right.

We're going back in!

Be loved by you

To hear you say

I will be there

You anywhere

Layin' stone to pass

Be loved by you

To hear you say

I will be there

We are flesh and dust

The wreckage, we are not alone

We are vicarious dreams

Out of control

Be loved by you

To hear you say

I will be there

You anywhere