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-Just waiting for Casey.
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No sign of her yet.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that works.
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I have some stuff I can put up.
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I can work with that.
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Bedding, for sure.
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I have part of my
life in several bags.
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Some of the most priceless
things that I have.
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-Why?
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-Some of the only things
I have left of Caylee.
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-This one.
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-Casey, why not just do the
interview at your house?
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-Um, I like my privacy.
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Um, I also have a roommate
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whose privacy I take
very, very seriously.
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And that's also my safe space
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away from the outside world,
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away from anything scary.
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This was up in my mom's house.
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Caylee was just a
few months old here.
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I've had this up since 2005.
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And it's gone with me
everywhere I've gone.
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So...
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This...
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This is one of my
favorite pictures
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because she just had this
look of angst on her face,
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like, "You're
stopping me for what?
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To take my picture again."
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Her Princess Leia
wig. Two-layered tutu.
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She's actually wearing butterfly
wings that you can't see.
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The pink cowboy boots.
I let her dress herself.
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She's running around screaming,
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having the time of her
life on my mom's porch.
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And I asked her to stop
so I could get a picture.
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And she does this. This.
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Makes this face.
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And then I go, "Okay, bye."
And runs around again.
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Like the little fairy
princess that she was.
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Thankfully, I have things
like this to look back at,
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things like this.
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These moments that
I had with her.
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I was with her
when she did this.
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We broke probably every
single one of these crayons.
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Those moments were
happy, innocent.
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There was no trauma.
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There was no darkness
in those moments.
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And too much of her memory
is surrounded by that now.
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-Our top story this morning.
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A 2-year-old girl is missing,
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and detectives say her
mother has provided them
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with more lies than information.
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-Casey Anthony reported her
3-year-old daughter missing
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in mid-July.
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-The child was reported
missing 31 days late.
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-Investigators said she'd
given them bogus information
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about her employer and where
she dropped off the child.
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-Casey kept on going
out and having fun
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while her daughter was missing.
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-Caylee's remains were
hidden in the woods.
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-Mother Casey Anthony has
been charged with her murder.
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-Caylee died because
her mother decided
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that the life that she
wanted was more important.
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-Justice for Caylee!
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-This is the Super
Bowl of trials.
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-The most famous murder
case since O.J. Simpson.
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-The jury is entering
the courtroom right now.
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This is the Casey Anthony
trial verdict coming back.
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-As to the charge of
first-degree murder,
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we, the jury, find the
defendant not guilty.
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-No regard at all for that baby.
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What is wrong with these people?
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-The devil is dancing tonight.
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-Casey Anthony has
enemies worldwide now.
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-She better start buying
a condo in Zimbabwe
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because there's
nowhere in Florida
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this woman would
be able to live.
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-Casey Anthony has stayed
out of the public eye.
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She has not done a single
on-camera interview
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since she was acquitted
in her murder trial.
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-Casey's never told her story.
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There's questions like,
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well, does she have
something to hide?
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-She completely disappeared.
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And actions speak
louder than words.
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-If you could speak to Casey
now, what would you say to her?
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-Listen, I think I
would just ask her,
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"Look, just tell us why."
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-Why what?
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-Why you killed your daughter.
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-All right, Katie,
do you want to slate?
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-I'm about to.
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-Okay.
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Casey interview. ABC
marker, soft sticks.
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-Why talk to me now
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when you're not getting
creative control?
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-I just need someone to
be willing to listen.
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And I've spent the last 10 years
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making sure that
I knew who I was.
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That I started to
cope with this loss.
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And that I had something to
say to make my daughter proud,
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but also to honor her properly.
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And this is part of that.
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It's hard because a thousand
questions go through my head.
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I'm responsible for
answering every...
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Everyone in the
world's questions
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about her, about what happened.
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I still don't know.
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- What?
- What happened to Caylee.
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I know what I'm afraid of.
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I know what eats at me at night.
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I know what eats at
me day after day.
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Because I know what
I lived through.
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- All right. Where are we going?
- That way. Only one way.
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-All right, let's do it.
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- Oh, great.
- I've never seen any.
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I've been coming
here for over a year.
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I've never seen an
alligator. We're fine.
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-How often do you
do a hike like this?
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-I come here quite a bit.
I have a few other places
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I like to go to
that are secluded.
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There usually aren't people.
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I've had really bad social
anxiety for the last decade.
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Going to crowded
places by myself
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is not something I feel
comfortable doing anymore.
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I typically take
pictures when I'm here.
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-Casey, what's your tattoo?
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-This? It's peonies
and half a mandala.
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Symbolizes growth, rebirth.
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I have fought so hard
for a normal life.
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My defense team was very
adamant about making sure
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that I was able to have a
fresh start after the trial.
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I didn't receive any
help or assistance
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from my biological family.
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I was given a little bit of
money from my defense team
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to start to get on my feet.
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They're not just my legal team,
but my surrogate family here.
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-I found a little apartment just
north of my house downtown by...
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-Pat McKenna was lead
investigator during my case.
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I've been working
for Pat McKenna
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as his research assistant
for 10 1/2 years.
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-Okay, so I guess we'll
make a file and printout.
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-Give me two seconds and
I'll see if I can Word search
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the document and find it.
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I've worked a lot of
cases over the years.
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It's the whole reason I'm
doing what I'm doing now
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to pay forward everything
that was done for me.
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I've spent the last 10 1/2 years
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doing primarily
criminal defense work
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because I don't ever want to
see someone be pigeonholed
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by not only law
enforcement, but the media,
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be railroaded like I was.
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I like my life.
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At least there are moments
where I feel like I'm not alone,
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where those holes in my
heart that will never go away
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feel a little bit smaller.
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Caylee was born
in August of 2005.
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I was 19.
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The few pictures that I
do have of me with her
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that other people took was
when she was first born.
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That was the best decision
that I ever made in my life,
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was having a kid,
was becoming a mom.
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She was perfect.
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The only person in this world
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that matters to me
still is my daughter.
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But I'm still defending the
fact that I didn't hurt her.
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I live it every single day.
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And no one can ever tell me
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I should just get over the fact
that my daughter isn't here
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and I've been blamed
for her being gone.
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-My name is John Allen.
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At the time of the Anthony case,
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I was a sergeant at the Orange
County Sheriff's Office,
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and I supervised the
Anthony investigation.
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It was an odd story.
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Certainly, the
night this happened,
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nobody thought it would turn out
the way that it's turned out.
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On July 15, 2008, Cindy
Anthony, Caylee's grandmother,
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called 911.
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-What we believe we have at
this point is a 3-year-old
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that's been missing for a
month. Didn't make sense.
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I mean, you know, usually,
when a child goes missing,
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parents report it right away.
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-So here we are at
Hopespring Drive,
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the Anthony home.
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My name's Eric Edwards.
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One of the homicide
investigators came to my desk
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and said, "Are you aware of what
John Allen and Yuri have going?"
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That night, Yuri Melich
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was the on-call missing
persons investigator.
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He spent a great deal
of time with Casey
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trying to collect information
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that may lead to the
location of Caylee.
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At that point, Yuri affords
Casey an opportunity to take him
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to several locations
in the Orlando area
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in an effort to try to determine
where the child may be.
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-He drove her to the
apartment where Casey said
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she had dropped Caylee off.
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There was no Zenaida Gonzalez
that lived at the place.
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In fact, that apartment
had been vacant for months.
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And of course, we
learned pretty quickly
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that she was lying
about a lot of things.
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In Yuri's interview with her,
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Casey said she worked
at Universal Studios.
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And, so, that morning,
Detective Melich went
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to Universal and
found out that she...
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That she wasn't an employee,
she didn't work there.
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So I told him to stay there
and I would go pick her up
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and I would bring
her to Universal
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and we would see what she
would do, how she would react,
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thinking, at that point,
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she would admit that
she was making it up
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and she didn't
really work there.
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But that's not the
reaction we got.
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She said, "Oh, yeah, fine."
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We walk into the HR building
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where she has told
us she has an office,
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and she's kind of
waving at people,
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and they are waving back.
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I mean, but they're like, you
know, they're waving like...
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You could tell by
their expressions
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that, you know, she doesn't
work in the building.
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She's not somebody known
to the people in there.
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We actually turn down a hallway
where there's nowhere to go.
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It's a dead-end hall.
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Casey turned and looked at us
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and said, "I don't
really work here, so..."
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She was arrested
for lying to Yuri
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during the course of that
portion of the investigation.
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-Why do you think Casey
felt the need to lie?
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-Why do I think she
felt the need to lie?
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I mean, listen, I...
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Look, I think she
killed her daughter
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and she didn't get in trouble,
she didn't want to get caught.
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Certainly that... that
would be a motive to lie.
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-Casey Anthony
held her head high
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after being arrested yesterday,
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charged with child neglect
and lying to the authorities.
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So far, investigators had
no luck locating that friend
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who was supposedly caring
for the young girl.
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And it's just one more
element in a strange story
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that has even the woman's
own mother concerned.
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-Maybe she's confused,
maybe she's sick.
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Maybe something's happened
that she doesn't know.
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Hello?
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-Hello. This is a
free call from...
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-Casey.
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- an inmate from the Orange
County Correctional Center.
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00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:43,692
-That's the first time Casey
called her family from the jail.
250
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:46,570
Did you get the impression
that she was as upset
251
00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:48,328
and worried about her
daughter as her mother
252
00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,320
and her friend were?
253
00:17:50,362 --> 00:17:52,242
Um...
254
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I think
this is her being herself.
255
00:18:13,009 --> 00:18:16,049
-I can remember where
I was in my home office
256
00:18:16,096 --> 00:18:19,516
when I saw that there was
this woman taken into custody,
257
00:18:19,557 --> 00:18:23,477
child neglect, and a
child missing for 30 days,
258
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,900
not reported.
259
00:18:24,938 --> 00:18:27,398
At that time, I was an
investigative reporter
260
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,530
at WKMG in Orlando.
261
00:18:29,567 --> 00:18:33,107
I wanted to find out
more about this family.
262
00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:37,121
George and Cindy.
263
00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:41,618
Early on, they were
grandparents who wanted to know,
264
00:18:41,663 --> 00:18:44,503
they said, where their
granddaughter was.
265
00:18:44,541 --> 00:18:47,211
-I will walk every
inch of this Earth
266
00:18:47,252 --> 00:18:50,762
and open every door and
knock on every door.
267
00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:54,467
And I will look in
every nook and cranny...
268
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:59,514
until I find her.
269
00:18:59,556 --> 00:19:01,676
-You know, they
presented to the public
270
00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:05,345
as people who didn't
know what happened
271
00:19:05,395 --> 00:19:07,105
and wanted to find Caylee.
272
00:19:07,147 --> 00:19:09,517
- If you could wear this...
- I would, I would love to.
273
00:19:09,566 --> 00:19:11,226
- I would deeply appreciate it.
274
00:19:11,276 --> 00:19:16,066
-And then you have this
emotional outpouring
275
00:19:16,114 --> 00:19:18,624
on behalf of Caylee.
276
00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:22,948
-Here are the facts.
Caylee is missing.
277
00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:25,536
-100 showed up at the
Anthonys' tonight to pray.
278
00:19:25,582 --> 00:19:27,332
-I've just been
keeping in contact
279
00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:28,665
with this story every day.
280
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,590
She's just a
precious little angel
281
00:19:30,628 --> 00:19:34,008
that needs support
from all around.
282
00:19:37,344 --> 00:19:40,564
-Because of social media,
283
00:19:40,597 --> 00:19:42,177
this took on a life of its own,
284
00:19:42,223 --> 00:19:44,773
where you had these pictures
of this beautiful little girl.
285
00:19:44,809 --> 00:19:48,099
You can remember the
video of Caylee singing.
286
00:19:54,444 --> 00:19:56,204
- Do you hear her?
- As a reporter,
287
00:19:56,237 --> 00:19:59,777
my job changed because it
was, like, all-consuming...
288
00:19:59,824 --> 00:20:02,794
Find the next Casey
Anthony story.
289
00:20:02,827 --> 00:20:06,247
Because that is what people
were watching the news for.
290
00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:10,129
-At that time, we're able to
re-create what Casey was doing
291
00:20:10,168 --> 00:20:12,798
and thinking and who
she was talking to.
292
00:20:12,837 --> 00:20:15,917
The sheriff's office did a
pretty thorough investigation
293
00:20:15,965 --> 00:20:20,845
of her phones, so we made
a public-records request.
294
00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:23,057
One of Casey's
former boyfriends,
295
00:20:23,098 --> 00:20:24,968
Ricardo Morales,
told investigators
296
00:20:25,016 --> 00:20:28,136
that he got a message from Casey
saying that she didn't feel
297
00:20:28,186 --> 00:20:29,872
she could participate
fully with her friends
298
00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:31,436
because she was a mother.
299
00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:34,321
In early May, she's having a
Facebook chat with another guy
300
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,609
and tells him that, "I'm
going crazy over here.
301
00:20:37,654 --> 00:20:39,664
At least the kid is passed out."
302
00:20:39,698 --> 00:20:42,868
-Tonight, police named
the mom, Casey Anthony,
303
00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:44,619
a person of interest.
304
00:20:44,661 --> 00:20:48,161
Where is 2-year-old Caylee?
305
00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:51,456
-The public thought that Casey
didn't want to be a mother.
306
00:20:51,501 --> 00:20:53,841
We don't typically think
of mothers as murderers.
307
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:57,168
'Cause it was like, "Wait,
did she murder her daughter?"
308
00:20:59,384 --> 00:21:00,894
-Good afternoon.
309
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:04,677
We found more inconsistencies
in the mother's story.
310
00:21:04,723 --> 00:21:06,853
So we continue to look
for witnesses and people
311
00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:09,271
that may have
additional information.
312
00:21:11,229 --> 00:21:13,649
We went back and we
listened to the 911 tapes,
313
00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:17,280
and we hear Cindy's
frantic voice.
314
00:21:24,409 --> 00:21:26,079
-She's saying that Casey's car
315
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,949
smells like there's
been a dead body in it.
316
00:21:31,082 --> 00:21:34,462
-There's been some
testimony about a car
317
00:21:34,502 --> 00:21:37,922
that Ms. Anthony had the use of.
318
00:21:37,964 --> 00:21:41,224
-It was a white Pontiac, and
it was initially recovered
319
00:21:41,259 --> 00:21:43,759
at their residence
on Hopespring Drive.
320
00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:46,263
We brought it in to
our forensics bay.
321
00:21:46,306 --> 00:21:48,596
-When we walked into
the forensics bay,
322
00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:51,061
it was clear to all of us,
323
00:21:51,102 --> 00:21:53,312
if you've smelled
that odor before,
324
00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:56,515
it's pretty unmistakable.
325
00:21:56,566 --> 00:21:58,896
We brought cadaver dogs in.
326
00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:00,863
The dog will indicate to
the handler in some way
327
00:22:00,904 --> 00:22:03,324
that maybe a dead
body has been there.
328
00:22:03,365 --> 00:22:07,075
-He alerted to the odor
of human decomposition.
329
00:22:07,118 --> 00:22:10,078
- In the trunk of that car?
- Yes, ma'am.
330
00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:11,791
-This pointed us
331
00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:14,541
in the direction that
this child is dead.
332
00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:15,924
And not only was she dead,
333
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,090
she had been in the
trunk of Casey's car.
334
00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:23,680
And, so... And, obviously, we
couldn't say that for sure,
335
00:22:23,718 --> 00:22:26,598
but it seemed pretty likely.
336
00:22:26,638 --> 00:22:29,848
At this point,
Casey was in jail.
337
00:22:29,891 --> 00:22:34,021
And we all believed that we
arrested the right person.
338
00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:46,451
-Here we go.
339
00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:50,201
-Casey Anthony walked out of
a Florida jail Friday morning.
340
00:22:50,245 --> 00:22:52,655
The mother of missing
toddler Caylee Anthony
341
00:22:52,706 --> 00:22:55,376
was released on a $500,000 bond.
342
00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:59,627
-Hey, back off, you
guys! Let her through!
343
00:22:59,671 --> 00:23:02,801
- Get out of our neighborhood!
- We live here.
344
00:23:02,841 --> 00:23:04,131
-Tonight, the search for Caylee
345
00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:06,635
reaches a boiling point,
as you can see and hear.
346
00:23:06,678 --> 00:23:09,218
Neighbors fighting back
protesters demanding
347
00:23:09,264 --> 00:23:11,354
Casey Anthony's return to jail.
348
00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:14,391
Protesters feel Casey is
hiding a horrible truth.
349
00:23:15,687 --> 00:23:17,307
-What?
350
00:23:17,355 --> 00:23:19,515
-She has completely
removed herself
351
00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:23,236
from any normal emotion of
a mother missing a child.
352
00:23:23,278 --> 00:23:25,528
And that is the most
disturbing part for me.
353
00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:29,493
-There was a lot of
anger at Casey Anthony.
354
00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:32,414
How could she not call
the police for 30 days?
355
00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:35,714
What was Casey doing
during that time?
356
00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:44,221
-When I was asked to
assist on this case,
357
00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:48,177
we interviewed friends,
family members.
358
00:23:48,219 --> 00:23:50,179
The impression that
I started to get
359
00:23:50,221 --> 00:23:53,561
was the existence of Caylee
360
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,520
was probably interfering
with Casey's desire
361
00:23:56,561 --> 00:24:00,271
to be more socially active
with people of her own age.
362
00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:06,030
From conducting
these interviews,
363
00:24:06,071 --> 00:24:09,201
the day that I think whatever
terrible happened to Caylee
364
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,830
was June 16th.
365
00:24:10,867 --> 00:24:15,367
And the last person other
than Casey to see Caylee,
366
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:18,173
that we're aware of,
was George Anthony.
367
00:24:35,225 --> 00:24:38,395
-And looking at her
desktop calendars,
368
00:24:38,436 --> 00:24:42,016
Casey was much busier and
much more socially active
369
00:24:42,065 --> 00:24:44,395
after the 16th.
370
00:24:44,442 --> 00:24:46,492
When we looked at the
Photobucket account,
371
00:24:46,528 --> 00:24:48,028
we could see the lifestyle
372
00:24:48,071 --> 00:24:50,201
that she was living during
that period of time.
373
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,910
Partying and hanging out.
374
00:24:53,952 --> 00:24:55,702
During the 31 days,
375
00:24:55,745 --> 00:24:58,915
Casey ended up stealing a
checkbook from a friend,
376
00:24:58,957 --> 00:25:00,377
Amy Huizenga.
377
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:11,219
Casey was using funds that
did not belong to her.
378
00:25:11,261 --> 00:25:12,971
You know, you see her
going into stores.
379
00:25:13,013 --> 00:25:14,643
No child with her,
380
00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:19,141
not buying things that a mother
would be buying for a child.
381
00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:21,095
Nothing.
382
00:25:21,146 --> 00:25:25,356
I have here that the 3rd of July
383
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,860
is when she gets that
tattoo, "Bella Vita."
384
00:25:28,903 --> 00:25:32,373
That means "the good life."
385
00:25:32,407 --> 00:25:34,407
Your child is missing.
386
00:25:34,451 --> 00:25:37,791
How do you get a tattoo,
like a billboard,
387
00:25:37,829 --> 00:25:41,749
showing the world "I'm
living the perfect life"?
388
00:25:41,791 --> 00:25:43,591
Who does that?
389
00:25:45,962 --> 00:25:49,302
And then, the activity
picked up with Tony Lazzaro.
390
00:25:49,341 --> 00:25:52,181
Tony Lazzaro was Casey
Anthony's boyfriend
391
00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:54,388
at the time that
Caylee went missing.
392
00:25:54,429 --> 00:25:57,519
When they first met, Caylee
was always with Casey.
393
00:25:57,557 --> 00:26:00,307
I just think... boop...
It stopped, you know?
394
00:26:00,352 --> 00:26:02,152
And that being
around the same time
395
00:26:02,187 --> 00:26:05,317
in the time frame where she
started staying with him.
396
00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:08,227
So we interviewed Tony
Lazzaro and friends,
397
00:26:08,276 --> 00:26:09,986
many friends about this.
398
00:26:18,036 --> 00:26:19,326
-My name is Clint House.
399
00:26:19,371 --> 00:26:22,711
I was Tony Lazzaro's
former roommate.
400
00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:26,419
When I first found out
that Caylee was missing,
401
00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:29,711
I was just absolutely
blown away.
402
00:26:29,756 --> 00:26:31,676
It just doesn't make any sense.
403
00:26:31,716 --> 00:26:34,546
In the early beginnings
of the relationship,
404
00:26:34,594 --> 00:26:36,184
Casey would bring Caylee over.
405
00:26:36,221 --> 00:26:40,561
I saw Casey doing
flash cards with her,
406
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,020
teaching her how to say words.
407
00:26:44,062 --> 00:26:46,562
And that just made me
408
00:26:46,606 --> 00:26:50,526
want to be that type of
parent to my own child.
409
00:26:50,568 --> 00:26:52,778
-She always, you
know, had a backpack
410
00:26:52,821 --> 00:26:55,031
with everything
that Caylee needed
411
00:26:55,073 --> 00:26:57,243
whenever she brought her
over to the apartment.
412
00:26:57,283 --> 00:27:00,373
She was such a good mom.
413
00:27:00,412 --> 00:27:03,752
But that month that Caylee...
414
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:06,540
When we found out that
she had been missing,
415
00:27:06,584 --> 00:27:10,674
Casey showed no indication
that anything was wrong.
416
00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:14,264
She was just living her life.
417
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,180
We were all confused. We were
like, "How is she missing?"
418
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:22,520
-She did absolutely nothing
in the search for her child.
419
00:27:23,435 --> 00:27:27,265
And that, I will
never forgive her for.
420
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,280
-It was the right
guilty verdict.
421
00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:38,743
I did lie to law enforcement.
422
00:27:38,783 --> 00:27:41,043
I admitted that I lied
to law enforcement.
423
00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:45,577
So I am a convicted
liar. It's the truth.
424
00:27:45,623 --> 00:27:50,753
-And what is your relationship
to truth and lying today?
425
00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:55,085
-I'm a little too honest.
I'm blunt. I'm direct.
426
00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:56,893
Almost painfully so.
427
00:27:59,012 --> 00:28:02,272
-Today, would you say
Casey is an honest person?
428
00:28:02,307 --> 00:28:04,887
- Yes.
- How honest?
429
00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:07,104
-I think she's very
truthful today.
430
00:28:07,145 --> 00:28:09,725
I trust her so much
431
00:28:09,773 --> 00:28:12,403
that I trust her
with my research,
432
00:28:12,442 --> 00:28:13,992
with my invoices.
433
00:28:14,027 --> 00:28:16,147
-So in the past 10 years,
you've never caught her
434
00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:17,776
in an out-and-out lie?
- Never.
435
00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:21,622
Not in 10 years, or however
long it's been, yeah.
436
00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:25,249
I'm pretty good
at catching lies.
437
00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:27,118
It's kind of my job.
438
00:28:27,165 --> 00:28:29,955
And she's very honest.
439
00:28:34,923 --> 00:28:36,973
-I lost my entire life
when I lost Caylee.
440
00:28:37,008 --> 00:28:38,678
She was the only
thing that truly
441
00:28:38,718 --> 00:28:42,098
and honestly mattered to me.
442
00:28:45,975 --> 00:28:49,145
I let her dress herself
how she wanted to dress.
443
00:28:49,187 --> 00:28:52,817
I let her eat what she
wanted to eat, within reason.
444
00:28:52,857 --> 00:28:54,397
She was thriving.
445
00:28:54,442 --> 00:28:55,942
Well, Miss Life of the Party.
446
00:28:55,985 --> 00:28:58,355
It's your party, you
can do what you want to.
447
00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:05,123
I was always there.
I was a part of that.
448
00:29:05,161 --> 00:29:10,711
I got to see how infectious
she was in everyone's lives.
449
00:29:13,545 --> 00:29:16,715
-She was just happy and fun,
450
00:29:16,756 --> 00:29:18,275
and she would just light
up a room, you know?
451
00:29:18,299 --> 00:29:22,549
She was big brown eyes and
just the cutest little smile.
452
00:29:26,266 --> 00:29:27,806
My name is Annie Goderwis,
453
00:29:27,851 --> 00:29:31,021
and I was once best
friends with Casey Anthony.
454
00:29:33,648 --> 00:29:37,528
I have "Caylee Marie"
tattooed on my left shoulder.
455
00:29:37,569 --> 00:29:39,449
-Why did you decide to do that?
456
00:29:39,487 --> 00:29:42,657
-Um, because she deserves it.
457
00:29:42,699 --> 00:29:45,949
She deserves to live
with me forever.
458
00:29:57,297 --> 00:30:01,507
I brought a couple of my
high-school yearbooks.
459
00:30:04,095 --> 00:30:06,635
There's Casey.
460
00:30:06,681 --> 00:30:09,271
This is when she
was in 10th grade.
461
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,190
She started dating
a friend of mine.
462
00:30:18,234 --> 00:30:20,954
We became close
friends very quickly.
463
00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:27,954
I think this picture
was from my birthday.
464
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:31,754
Casey was a good mom. She
took care of that child.
465
00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:35,540
She loved that baby.
466
00:30:35,585 --> 00:30:38,795
She was always
focused on Caylee.
467
00:30:38,838 --> 00:30:42,678
You know, she was a part of her.
She was everywhere that she was.
468
00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:48,306
-It's very clear, when I
talked to the policemen,
469
00:30:48,348 --> 00:30:53,848
they all very readily tell
me that the motive here
470
00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:55,805
was somebody who wanted
to go out dancing
471
00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:57,855
and was ready to kill her child.
472
00:30:57,899 --> 00:30:59,689
-No way.
473
00:30:59,734 --> 00:31:02,954
No way, shape, form.
474
00:31:02,987 --> 00:31:05,697
I don't believe
that for a second.
475
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,990
I understand how
they will say that.
476
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,374
I get it.
477
00:31:09,411 --> 00:31:11,451
That's not the
Casey that I knew.
478
00:31:11,496 --> 00:31:14,116
No way. She didn't
kill her child.
479
00:31:14,165 --> 00:31:15,575
Like
480
00:31:18,545 --> 00:31:23,005
All the pictures that circulated
on the news, on social media,
481
00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:28,139
there's a matter of, I would
say, maybe half-a-dozen pictures
482
00:31:28,179 --> 00:31:30,219
that are from half-a-dozen
different nights
483
00:31:30,265 --> 00:31:33,265
over the span of a
three-year time period.
484
00:31:33,309 --> 00:31:35,649
There's a picture of her
with her head in the toilet.
485
00:31:35,687 --> 00:31:37,187
It was her 21st birthday.
486
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:40,820
Like, come on. It was
her 21st birthday.
487
00:31:40,859 --> 00:31:43,029
The media made it like
all she wanted to do
488
00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:45,859
was to kill her kid
and go out and party.
489
00:31:45,905 --> 00:31:48,315
It's not the Casey that I knew.
490
00:31:48,366 --> 00:31:50,236
She...
491
00:31:50,285 --> 00:31:52,535
was never like the
life of the party.
492
00:31:52,579 --> 00:31:56,119
She didn't go out with
us all that often.
493
00:31:56,166 --> 00:32:02,006
She was your typical mom. I
mean, she loved that child.
494
00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:03,967
We would go places in the car,
495
00:32:04,007 --> 00:32:07,137
and there would be Goldfish
all over Casey's back seat
496
00:32:07,177 --> 00:32:09,347
because, like, the
kid always had food.
497
00:32:09,387 --> 00:32:11,177
She had toys.
498
00:32:11,222 --> 00:32:13,852
Occasionally, Caylee
would let me hold her.
499
00:32:13,892 --> 00:32:15,692
Most of the time, she
just wanted Casey.
500
00:32:15,727 --> 00:32:18,897
She wanted her mom.
She loved her mom.
501
00:32:18,938 --> 00:32:22,318
Until she herself tells
me that she did it,
502
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:26,449
there's no way, no way
she killed that baby.
503
00:32:26,488 --> 00:32:29,868
With Caylee's disappearance,
504
00:32:29,908 --> 00:32:32,738
I think an accident
probably happened.
505
00:32:32,786 --> 00:32:36,456
And I think that she
did what she always did,
506
00:32:36,498 --> 00:32:38,918
and she lied.
507
00:32:40,502 --> 00:32:44,212
When I was friends with Casey,
she lied about everything.
508
00:32:45,757 --> 00:32:47,927
When Casey was
questioned by the police,
509
00:32:47,967 --> 00:32:51,967
she said she dropped Caylee
off at this apartment complex.
510
00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:55,233
Well, I used to live in
that apartment complex.
511
00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:57,056
I think, in her mind,
she wasn't lying.
512
00:32:57,102 --> 00:32:58,652
She had brought
Caylee there before.
513
00:32:58,687 --> 00:33:01,187
She had never dropped her off,
but Caylee had been there.
514
00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:05,986
I'm fairly certain that
she definitely was employed
515
00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:07,357
at Universal at some point,
516
00:33:07,404 --> 00:33:09,006
whether it was, like,
right out of high school
517
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:11,570
or when she was in high
school, I don't know.
518
00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:13,366
Again, small truths.
519
00:33:15,161 --> 00:33:18,921
-When I lied, during
this and even prior to,
520
00:33:18,957 --> 00:33:21,877
there was always at least
some part of the truth
521
00:33:21,918 --> 00:33:24,128
that was a part of the lie.
522
00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:28,380
I did work at Universal
for a very long time.
523
00:33:28,425 --> 00:33:29,835
And, yeah, Sawgrass Apartments,
524
00:33:29,884 --> 00:33:33,764
that's where Annie
Downing lived.
525
00:33:33,805 --> 00:33:35,675
A kernel of truth
within the lie.
526
00:33:44,274 --> 00:33:46,534
-So, let's go back
to the beginning.
527
00:33:46,568 --> 00:33:49,318
July 16, 2008,
528
00:33:49,362 --> 00:33:53,622
the day that Caylee's
kidnapping is reported.
529
00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:09,383
What are you thinking
and feeling on that call?
530
00:34:09,424 --> 00:34:12,934
There's no emotion.
- There's no nothing.
531
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:14,799
Nothing.
532
00:34:16,556 --> 00:34:19,016
- Yeah. It's weird.
- It's very weird.
533
00:34:24,147 --> 00:34:28,397
I was so numb during
so much of that.
534
00:34:39,496 --> 00:34:43,326
I did meet someone named
Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.
535
00:34:43,375 --> 00:34:45,835
She was a babysitter, was a
nanny... all of that's true.
536
00:34:45,877 --> 00:34:48,417
Was not my nanny. Was
not my babysitter.
537
00:35:06,523 --> 00:35:08,823
That's the official entrance.
538
00:35:08,858 --> 00:35:11,318
So we have to go
around the back.
539
00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:24,870
-So, at the time you're
pulling up here with the cops,
540
00:35:24,916 --> 00:35:29,166
you believe what
about where Caylee is?
541
00:35:29,212 --> 00:35:31,842
-She's okay. That's what I
believed the entire time.
542
00:35:31,881 --> 00:35:33,511
Not just with the cops.
543
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:37,550
Every day that I sat in jail
up until the day she was found.
544
00:35:37,595 --> 00:35:39,635
Every day.
545
00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:43,391
-Help us understand, why
were you lying to the cops?
546
00:35:43,435 --> 00:35:47,225
-I lied to everyone because
that was my whole life
547
00:35:47,272 --> 00:35:49,522
up to that point.
548
00:35:49,566 --> 00:35:52,606
Acting like everything's okay
but knowing nothing was okay.
549
00:35:52,652 --> 00:35:56,362
I've had years of therapy and...
550
00:35:56,406 --> 00:36:00,116
I'm trying to analyze
my own behavior
551
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,410
and explain my own behaviors.
552
00:36:03,455 --> 00:36:06,825
All of this is a
reaction to trauma.
553
00:36:11,588 --> 00:36:16,178
Since 2008, I was
suppressing those memories.
554
00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:18,597
I remember my interactions
with law enforcement,
555
00:36:18,636 --> 00:36:21,596
but I don't really remember
all of what was said.
556
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:27,849
Everything had its place on
a shelf and had its own box.
557
00:36:29,439 --> 00:36:33,279
I was trying to put as
much of what was associated
558
00:36:33,318 --> 00:36:36,068
with those memories into those
boxes and locking it away
559
00:36:36,112 --> 00:36:38,412
and putting it
back on the shelf.
560
00:36:46,289 --> 00:36:49,999
Now, saying all of this out
loud for the first time,
561
00:36:50,043 --> 00:36:52,923
the process is
extremely painful.
562
00:37:00,762 --> 00:37:03,142
I remember the detectives
that I was with.
563
00:37:03,181 --> 00:37:07,141
I didn't trust
cops at that point.
564
00:37:07,185 --> 00:37:10,355
I was frightened.
I was scared.
565
00:37:12,148 --> 00:37:14,778
And they go something
along the lines of,
566
00:37:14,818 --> 00:37:17,608
"Oh, so you work here?"
567
00:37:17,654 --> 00:37:19,324
I hadn't worked at Universal
568
00:37:19,364 --> 00:37:22,534
for like a year, year
and a half, easily.
569
00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:29,040
I remember the
detectives walking me
570
00:37:29,082 --> 00:37:31,332
into an interrogation room.
571
00:38:11,124 --> 00:38:15,384
I made myself look crazy
572
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:19,340
and gave law enforcement
absolutely no reason to believe
573
00:38:19,382 --> 00:38:22,472
or trust anything that I said.
574
00:38:27,557 --> 00:38:29,557
I get why, from an
outside perspective,
575
00:38:29,601 --> 00:38:32,271
all of this just seems so...
576
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:35,442
Because, even for me,
it still feels that way.
577
00:38:35,482 --> 00:38:36,732
As far as I'm concerned,
578
00:38:36,775 --> 00:38:39,565
there's no justifying
my actions or behavior.
579
00:38:43,865 --> 00:38:46,365
Except to say that...
580
00:38:46,409 --> 00:38:49,409
I was doing what I
was conditioned to do.
581
00:38:54,250 --> 00:38:57,130
Growing up, I lied a lot more
than I ever told the truth
582
00:38:57,170 --> 00:39:00,420
because telling the truth to
anyone in the outside world
583
00:39:00,465 --> 00:39:02,085
didn't happen.
584
00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:05,933
On the surface, my
family was typical.
585
00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:08,930
Mother, father,
son, and daughter.
586
00:39:08,973 --> 00:39:13,403
Your standard middle-class,
White American family.
587
00:39:13,436 --> 00:39:16,396
My mom was a nurse. My
father was a former cop.
588
00:39:16,439 --> 00:39:19,319
When we moved to Florida,
he was in security.
589
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:24,409
The outside world saw this...
This perfect little family.
590
00:39:24,447 --> 00:39:26,987
And there were moments
of that, for sure.
591
00:39:27,033 --> 00:39:32,003
But that wasn't the reality.
592
00:39:32,038 --> 00:39:36,918
Our life at home was a lie.
593
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,380
Telling the truth, especially
in our house, wasn't allowed.
594
00:39:41,423 --> 00:39:43,973
It all comes back to my dad.
595
00:39:46,469 --> 00:39:48,259
He was a man who was incapable
596
00:39:48,304 --> 00:39:51,064
of ever telling
anyone the truth.
597
00:39:51,099 --> 00:39:52,599
My father wanted
the world to believe
598
00:39:52,642 --> 00:39:55,982
that he was the
patriarch of the family.
599
00:39:56,021 --> 00:39:58,231
That he was
supporting our family
600
00:39:58,273 --> 00:40:00,653
financially and otherwise.
601
00:40:00,692 --> 00:40:05,452
There were so many things
that he didn't want us to see.
602
00:40:05,488 --> 00:40:09,278
My father was trying to
hide that he wasn't working.
603
00:40:09,325 --> 00:40:11,615
My mother was the
true matriarch,
604
00:40:11,661 --> 00:40:14,711
was the sole breadwinner.
605
00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:18,958
She worked 14-to 16-hour days
to not only keep our lights on,
606
00:40:19,002 --> 00:40:20,712
but to keep food on the table.
607
00:40:20,754 --> 00:40:23,344
My mom had found out
that he had taken $60,000
608
00:40:23,381 --> 00:40:25,471
out of her retirement.
609
00:40:25,508 --> 00:40:29,348
He claims, at first, it was
a Nigerian Ponzi scheme,
610
00:40:29,387 --> 00:40:32,807
and then that he had
gambled away the money.
611
00:40:32,849 --> 00:40:35,139
The story kept evolving.
612
00:40:35,185 --> 00:40:37,225
My father was also
lying to hide the fact
613
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:39,360
that he was unfaithful
to my mother,
614
00:40:39,397 --> 00:40:42,817
to hide the fact that there
were extracurricular activities
615
00:40:42,859 --> 00:40:44,819
he was doing at night.
616
00:40:44,861 --> 00:40:47,741
My mom was trying to again
617
00:40:47,781 --> 00:40:51,081
put on that facade of
this cohesive unit.
618
00:40:51,117 --> 00:40:53,327
It was always that
perfect persona
619
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:56,540
they wanted to put
out for the public.
620
00:40:56,581 --> 00:40:58,961
Protecting the
family at all costs.
621
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,380
That was the only goal.
622
00:41:01,419 --> 00:41:04,759
Protecting the truth of
what was in our home.
623
00:41:20,397 --> 00:41:24,107
-So, your options
are eggs, fruit.
624
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:26,700
- Eggs and fruit?
- Eggs and fruit.
625
00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:34,387
Actually will be the first time
I've made breakfast for anyone
626
00:41:34,411 --> 00:41:36,831
other than myself
for a very long time.
627
00:41:52,012 --> 00:41:53,972
-How did you sleep?
628
00:41:54,014 --> 00:41:56,474
-There's no such
thing as good sleep.
629
00:41:56,516 --> 00:41:57,926
Not that I know.
630
00:41:57,976 --> 00:42:00,096
A lot of nights, I
have very clear images
631
00:42:00,145 --> 00:42:02,805
and flashbacks, nightmares.
632
00:42:09,779 --> 00:42:11,449
My nightmare last night,
633
00:42:11,489 --> 00:42:15,789
it was similar to other things
that happened to me growing up.
634
00:42:15,827 --> 00:42:17,138
I don't know if it's
just flooding back
635
00:42:17,162 --> 00:42:19,542
because of going
back through pictures
636
00:42:19,581 --> 00:42:23,841
and more switches being
hit and more trauma.
637
00:42:23,877 --> 00:42:25,957
-What was the
nightmare last night?
638
00:42:26,004 --> 00:42:29,884
-My father was holding
me down and raping me.
639
00:42:29,924 --> 00:42:32,894
That happens again
and again and again.
640
00:42:37,515 --> 00:42:39,055
When I was 8 years old,
641
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,900
my father started to come
into my room at night.
642
00:42:44,856 --> 00:42:47,476
I was physically hurt.
643
00:42:47,525 --> 00:42:49,315
Scared because I
was physically hurt
644
00:42:49,361 --> 00:42:52,321
and I can't tell
Mommy what happened.
645
00:42:52,364 --> 00:42:55,624
She'll get mad at me.
That's what I was told.
646
00:43:00,205 --> 00:43:03,665
With my father, the abuse
one day just stopped
647
00:43:03,708 --> 00:43:06,288
just before my 12th birthday.
648
00:43:06,336 --> 00:43:10,216
My brother started coming in
shortly after I turned 12.
649
00:43:12,258 --> 00:43:15,678
And it stopped around
the time I turned 15.
650
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,180
Wasn't the same thing that
happened with my father.
651
00:43:18,223 --> 00:43:22,193
My brother never raped me.
No, no, absolutely not.
652
00:43:22,227 --> 00:43:25,057
But it was close enough.
653
00:43:25,105 --> 00:43:27,935
Close enough where
there was a pattern.
654
00:43:27,982 --> 00:43:31,032
-But you did tell
your mom about Lee.
655
00:43:31,069 --> 00:43:33,529
-I did not.
656
00:43:33,571 --> 00:43:37,201
Not until after I
was already a mom.
657
00:43:37,242 --> 00:43:39,792
Not till I was 19.
658
00:43:39,828 --> 00:43:42,708
-Do you think she knew anyway?
659
00:43:42,747 --> 00:43:45,037
-I've always questioned it.
660
00:43:47,836 --> 00:43:49,546
What you have to
realize about my mom
661
00:43:49,587 --> 00:43:53,507
when I was younger, she
was extremely controlling.
662
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:56,220
She tried to make sure I dressed
as young as I possibly could,
663
00:43:56,261 --> 00:43:58,891
to look as young as
I possibly could.
664
00:43:58,930 --> 00:44:02,060
It's not just feeling like my
mom wanted to keep me a child.
665
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:04,140
I feel like she was trying to,
666
00:44:04,185 --> 00:44:07,645
yes, keep me from
being a sexual being.
667
00:44:07,689 --> 00:44:11,739
I had to fit within these
very specific parameters
668
00:44:11,776 --> 00:44:13,236
and be that perfect little girl,
669
00:44:13,278 --> 00:44:17,118
even when I wasn't a
little girl anymore.
670
00:44:20,076 --> 00:44:22,656
She was always trying
to create this image
671
00:44:22,704 --> 00:44:27,384
of what our family should be,
which was not what it was.
672
00:44:30,211 --> 00:44:32,261
I think she was
lying to herself,
673
00:44:32,297 --> 00:44:34,127
trying to keep together
this family unit
674
00:44:34,174 --> 00:44:36,434
that she was
fighting so hard for.
675
00:44:39,262 --> 00:44:43,142
It was just assumed
whatever Mom and Dad said,
676
00:44:43,183 --> 00:44:45,693
son and daughter follow suit.
677
00:44:45,727 --> 00:44:48,437
So, I lied a lot more
than I ever told the truth
678
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,230
because the truth
was too painful
679
00:44:51,274 --> 00:44:56,614
and it was too unreal to
ever describe to someone.
680
00:45:05,663 --> 00:45:07,463
- Inside, it was a mess.
- Keep going.
681
00:45:07,499 --> 00:45:09,129
-Shut up. Please.
682
00:45:09,167 --> 00:45:10,497
- Oh, I'm done.
- Shut up.
683
00:45:10,543 --> 00:45:12,173
-I'm done. Don't ever
tell me to shut up.
684
00:45:12,212 --> 00:45:13,592
-You know something?
685
00:45:13,630 --> 00:45:15,024
I let you explain everything
in as much detail.
686
00:45:15,048 --> 00:45:17,048
-No, don't you
tell me to shut up.
687
00:45:17,092 --> 00:45:19,472
Oh, geez, oh, cow,
George. Come on.
688
00:45:19,511 --> 00:45:21,971
-I think this interview itself
689
00:45:22,013 --> 00:45:26,023
is only further
painting that picture
690
00:45:26,059 --> 00:45:29,809
of what I've described about the
issues within their marriage.
691
00:45:29,854 --> 00:45:31,824
And you can just see.
692
00:45:31,856 --> 00:45:34,816
You can just see that discord
between the two of them.
693
00:45:34,859 --> 00:45:36,569
It's so blatant.
694
00:45:36,611 --> 00:45:39,201
-I didn't take $20
from your wallet.
695
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,819
I didn't take this.
I didn't take that.
696
00:45:40,865 --> 00:45:44,405
What about Casey going into
Caylee's savings account
697
00:45:44,452 --> 00:45:46,222
that I had started with
her and taking money out?
698
00:45:46,246 --> 00:45:48,286
-But, George, Casey
learned by example.
699
00:45:48,331 --> 00:45:50,001
And I...
- Wow. You're... You're really...
700
00:45:50,041 --> 00:45:51,501
-Okay, let's... Wait.
701
00:45:51,543 --> 00:45:53,020
- Please, please.
- No, but I'm telling you,
702
00:45:53,044 --> 00:45:55,594
you lied to me
for several years,
703
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:57,066
and that's where
our daughter got it.
704
00:45:57,090 --> 00:45:58,760
-Do not personally
attack me on this.
705
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,640
This is not supposed
to be about us.
706
00:46:00,677 --> 00:46:01,887
-I understand that.
707
00:46:01,928 --> 00:46:03,239
-It's not supposed to
be that personal attack.
708
00:46:03,263 --> 00:46:04,853
-She finally calls him out on it
709
00:46:04,889 --> 00:46:07,349
and is finally acknowledging.
710
00:46:07,392 --> 00:46:10,062
Yes, I learned from his
example, completely.
711
00:46:15,316 --> 00:46:18,696
I completely replicated
my father's behavior
712
00:46:18,737 --> 00:46:21,357
during those 31 days.
713
00:46:21,406 --> 00:46:24,276
I watched him lie, manipulate,
take money from people.
714
00:46:24,325 --> 00:46:25,865
I did all of those things.
715
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:29,870
But for me, it wasn't
to protect myself
716
00:46:29,914 --> 00:46:31,374
because of what I had done.
717
00:46:31,416 --> 00:46:34,786
It was to protect myself
from the outside world
718
00:46:34,836 --> 00:46:38,376
and that judgment of
what had happened to me.
719
00:46:38,423 --> 00:46:42,393
-So why did you take
the money from Amy?
720
00:46:42,427 --> 00:46:44,757
-It was a really shitty mistake.
721
00:46:48,308 --> 00:46:52,438
I used and manipulated all
of the people around me
722
00:46:52,479 --> 00:46:55,899
in an attempt to appear normal,
723
00:46:55,940 --> 00:46:59,190
which was extremely abnormal.
724
00:47:00,862 --> 00:47:04,202
When the most normal thing would
have been to say, "I need help."
725
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,490
But I didn't know
how to say that.
726
00:47:14,125 --> 00:47:16,035
-Casey Anthony says
she was looking
727
00:47:16,086 --> 00:47:17,546
for her missing daughter.
728
00:47:17,587 --> 00:47:20,717
We don't know if that's
true, but we do know this.
729
00:47:20,757 --> 00:47:22,837
Casey got a tattoo.
730
00:47:28,473 --> 00:47:30,773
-You covered up your tattoo.
731
00:47:30,809 --> 00:47:33,979
-Bella vita... That was my
"fuck you" to my family.
732
00:47:38,566 --> 00:47:42,106
I spent my entire life
protecting our perfect,
733
00:47:42,153 --> 00:47:44,283
beautiful little family
734
00:47:44,322 --> 00:47:48,662
and acting like I had
this enviable life.
735
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,419
And in a lot of ways...
736
00:47:53,456 --> 00:47:55,296
And, again, this is after
going through therapy
737
00:47:55,333 --> 00:47:59,213
and trying to explain why I got
the tattoo in the first place,
738
00:47:59,254 --> 00:48:02,764
especially during
that time period...
739
00:48:02,799 --> 00:48:06,719
Because that was a
subconscious way for me to...
740
00:48:09,139 --> 00:48:12,309
to speak out against all of it.
741
00:48:12,350 --> 00:48:14,690
- Against what?
- My family.
742
00:48:14,728 --> 00:48:16,268
My...
743
00:48:18,231 --> 00:48:23,111
flawed and fucked-up family
744
00:48:23,153 --> 00:48:27,073
and my flawed and
fucked-up life.
745
00:48:27,115 --> 00:48:30,865
It was the antithesis of
what my life really was.
746
00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:34,910
The tattoo on the
inside of my arm...
747
00:48:34,956 --> 00:48:37,496
"I hear your voice and all
the sounds of the world."
748
00:48:37,542 --> 00:48:39,252
That also translates to "noise."
749
00:48:39,294 --> 00:48:43,424
That just means I hear
you in everything.
750
00:48:43,465 --> 00:48:46,835
That is my Caylee
tribute tattoo.
751
00:48:50,722 --> 00:48:54,562
Everything about
her was perfect.
752
00:48:54,601 --> 00:48:57,651
These were my sonogram photos.
753
00:48:57,687 --> 00:48:59,897
These were the two that
I asked to have printed.
754
00:48:59,939 --> 00:49:03,319
You can see the outline, perfect
outline of her hand, her nose,
755
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,530
her eyes, her arms,
the bones in her arm.
756
00:49:07,572 --> 00:49:09,572
I was six and a half
months pregnant almost
757
00:49:09,616 --> 00:49:11,156
when they were able to do this.
758
00:49:11,201 --> 00:49:13,871
-Did people know you were
pregnant at that point?
759
00:49:13,912 --> 00:49:15,872
-Um...
760
00:49:15,914 --> 00:49:18,884
It was hard not to tell,
761
00:49:18,917 --> 00:49:21,537
but some of the people closest
to me were telling people
762
00:49:21,586 --> 00:49:23,706
not only that I wasn't pregnant.
763
00:49:23,755 --> 00:49:27,925
I was just sedentary,
had a sedentary position.
764
00:49:27,967 --> 00:49:30,887
That was what my nurse
mother told people.
765
00:49:30,929 --> 00:49:32,929
-Why?
766
00:49:32,972 --> 00:49:34,812
-I don't know.
767
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:37,229
Maybe she was embarrassed that
her daughter was pregnant.
768
00:49:37,268 --> 00:49:39,808
Um... I don't know.
769
00:49:39,854 --> 00:49:41,984
I was blatantly pregnant
and still saying no
770
00:49:42,023 --> 00:49:44,783
because that's what
we had all agreed to.
771
00:49:44,818 --> 00:49:47,278
Even my co-workers at the time.
772
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,910
And they're like,
"Well, you're pregnant."
773
00:49:49,948 --> 00:49:53,078
I'd kind of hesitate
and go, "What?"
774
00:49:53,118 --> 00:49:55,158
Of course I was pregnant.
775
00:49:55,203 --> 00:49:59,213
But no lie was out of bounds.
No lie was off-limits.
776
00:50:04,254 --> 00:50:07,924
-How did you get
pregnant with Caylee?
777
00:50:07,966 --> 00:50:10,756
-I was raped at 18.
778
00:50:10,802 --> 00:50:12,552
-Could your dad have
been the father?
779
00:50:12,595 --> 00:50:16,055
-No, my father is not
the father of my child.
780
00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:18,349
Neither is my brother.
781
00:50:27,527 --> 00:50:31,817
-When I was 18, I
was at a house party,
782
00:50:31,865 --> 00:50:34,825
had a couple beers,
783
00:50:34,868 --> 00:50:38,408
completely lost my memory
because I was drugged.
784
00:50:38,455 --> 00:50:41,875
I woke up with my top on,
785
00:50:41,916 --> 00:50:43,746
my jeans on the floor
with my underwear,
786
00:50:43,793 --> 00:50:46,343
and my bra still
inside of my shirt,
787
00:50:46,379 --> 00:50:50,009
but up over my breasts.
788
00:50:50,050 --> 00:50:52,050
And I was lethargic.
789
00:50:52,093 --> 00:50:57,523
I was extremely disoriented.
790
00:50:57,557 --> 00:51:03,017
And I could feel like
I had had forcible sex.
791
00:51:03,063 --> 00:51:05,023
I was scared,
792
00:51:05,065 --> 00:51:08,025
confused,
793
00:51:08,068 --> 00:51:10,988
full of questions.
794
00:51:11,029 --> 00:51:13,109
Why it happened,
how it happened.
795
00:51:13,156 --> 00:51:15,406
Did I consent? Not consent?
796
00:51:18,328 --> 00:51:20,038
-Did you report
it to the police?
797
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,580
- No.
- Why not?
798
00:51:22,624 --> 00:51:25,964
-I wasn't sure anyone
would believe me.
799
00:51:26,002 --> 00:51:29,092
Because, again, I know
what happens to girls
800
00:51:29,130 --> 00:51:30,670
when they go to a party.
801
00:51:30,715 --> 00:51:33,545
They have a couple drinks.
802
00:51:33,593 --> 00:51:35,353
All the guy needs to say is,
803
00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:37,097
"Yeah, of course,
she wanted to do it.
804
00:51:37,138 --> 00:51:40,518
She wanted to be a part of
it. She was asking for it."
805
00:51:42,018 --> 00:51:45,728
First person that I would have
told would have been my mom,
806
00:51:45,772 --> 00:51:48,902
and would she have believed me?
807
00:51:48,942 --> 00:51:52,072
Would she have blamed me?
808
00:51:52,112 --> 00:51:55,572
-How soon after the rape do
you realize you're pregnant?
809
00:51:55,615 --> 00:51:58,695
-Almost immediately.
810
00:51:58,743 --> 00:52:00,453
Six weeks.
811
00:52:02,122 --> 00:52:05,582
When I decided to tell my
parents that I was pregnant,
812
00:52:05,625 --> 00:52:08,285
I told them that Jesse
Grund was the father.
813
00:52:10,505 --> 00:52:13,925
I met and started
dating Jesse Grund
814
00:52:13,967 --> 00:52:17,427
just before I found
out I was pregnant.
815
00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:20,180
-Did you think Jesse
could be the dad?
816
00:52:20,223 --> 00:52:21,643
-Yes, there was a possibility,
817
00:52:21,683 --> 00:52:24,103
at least still in my
head, at the time.
818
00:52:24,144 --> 00:52:25,564
As my pregnancy progressed
819
00:52:25,603 --> 00:52:29,113
and we realized how far
along I actually was,
820
00:52:29,149 --> 00:52:32,609
came to realize that
that wasn't the case.
821
00:52:32,652 --> 00:52:36,362
But I made a very
selfish decision
822
00:52:36,406 --> 00:52:38,316
to not tell Jesse.
823
00:52:41,161 --> 00:52:44,961
I let Jesse believe the
entirety of my pregnancy
824
00:52:44,998 --> 00:52:47,578
that he was the father.
825
00:52:47,625 --> 00:52:51,455
I should have told him what
happened, but I didn't.
826
00:52:51,504 --> 00:52:54,884
At that point, I hadn't told
anyone that I was raped.
827
00:52:57,010 --> 00:53:00,010
He got a paternity test.
828
00:53:00,055 --> 00:53:02,515
And even after that,
I never told Jesse
829
00:53:02,557 --> 00:53:05,017
how I got pregnant
in the first place.
830
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:13,400
I lied and said that it was this
old friend from way back when.
831
00:53:13,443 --> 00:53:15,993
-Caylee's never had a father.
832
00:53:16,029 --> 00:53:20,449
He was a friend of Casey's
that lives out of state.
833
00:53:20,492 --> 00:53:21,742
By the time Caylee was born,
834
00:53:21,785 --> 00:53:24,115
he had already started
another family,
835
00:53:24,162 --> 00:53:27,332
and he passed away
earlier in the year.
836
00:53:34,673 --> 00:53:36,843
-I lied to everyone.
837
00:53:39,052 --> 00:53:40,762
That's what I'm saying,
it's so fucked up.
838
00:53:40,804 --> 00:53:44,564
It's just years of feeling like
839
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:47,229
I needed to live a certain
life or show people
840
00:53:47,268 --> 00:53:52,398
I lived a certain life because
I didn't want people to pity me.
841
00:53:54,067 --> 00:53:56,777
And I didn't want
my kid growing up
842
00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:59,660
thinking she was this
product of something so bad
843
00:53:59,698 --> 00:54:02,238
and that I didn't want her.
844
00:54:14,587 --> 00:54:16,797
I don't know how
long I can do this.
845
00:54:27,767 --> 00:54:31,807
I remember these pictures
like they were yesterday.
846
00:54:31,855 --> 00:54:35,145
And it's part of the reason
why it's so hard to look back.
847
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:44,909
I've missed this.
848
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:52,420
I miss her every
second of every day.
849
00:55:09,517 --> 00:55:13,767
This is why I can't sit down
and look at these anymore.
850
00:55:13,813 --> 00:55:16,273
It's not because
I don't want to.
851
00:55:16,316 --> 00:55:18,566
It's just it hurts.
852
00:55:18,610 --> 00:55:21,320
Just physically fucking hurts.
853
00:55:25,992 --> 00:55:30,752
She's still everything to me
and always will be everything.
854
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:32,499
This is all I have left.
855
00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:34,290
This.
856
00:55:34,334 --> 00:55:36,594
This is all I have left of her.
857
00:55:50,183 --> 00:55:53,193
No parent's supposed
to survive their kid.
858
00:55:55,188 --> 00:55:57,268
This is all I have left.
859
00:56:06,324 --> 00:56:08,584
Oh, God, just...
860
00:56:08,618 --> 00:56:11,038
It just fucking hurts.
861
00:56:14,124 --> 00:56:16,134
I don't think I can
say that enough.
862
00:56:16,167 --> 00:56:17,667
It just hurts.
863
00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:33,443
I lied, but no one asked why.
864
00:56:33,476 --> 00:56:36,516
No one cared why I lied.
865
00:56:42,569 --> 00:56:44,899
-When Casey was out of jail
866
00:56:44,946 --> 00:56:46,507
from the first time of
her being arrested...
867
00:56:46,531 --> 00:56:51,541
It was before they charged
her with Caylee's murder...
868
00:56:51,578 --> 00:56:54,708
I went over there and
I stayed the night.
869
00:56:56,624 --> 00:56:59,754
You know, I-I asked
some questions like,
870
00:56:59,794 --> 00:57:02,554
"Where's Caylee?" You know,
"Where... Like what...
871
00:57:02,589 --> 00:57:05,339
Like, what's going on? Why
didn't you tell anybody?"
872
00:57:05,383 --> 00:57:07,763
"Oh, I'm just doing
what they told me to do.
873
00:57:07,802 --> 00:57:10,602
Just saying what
they tell me to say."
874
00:57:22,233 --> 00:57:23,613
Right.
875
00:57:23,651 --> 00:57:25,701
She did say that,
"They are telling me.
876
00:57:25,737 --> 00:57:29,567
I'm doing what they
tell me to do."
877
00:57:29,616 --> 00:57:31,986
I don't know who
"they" is, though.
878
00:57:42,045 --> 00:57:44,915
-I'm thoroughly embarrassed
879
00:57:44,964 --> 00:57:48,724
by everything that happened,
not only on that day,
880
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,010
but so many of the
days that followed
881
00:57:51,054 --> 00:57:53,974
and the days that led
up to all of this.
882
00:57:56,351 --> 00:57:58,061
It's awful, but...
883
00:58:02,315 --> 00:58:05,775
I wasn't the same
person sitting here
884
00:58:05,819 --> 00:58:09,029
almost 14 years
ago that I am now.
885
00:58:09,072 --> 00:58:10,452
I have a voice now.
886
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:15,330
I'm not afraid to speak
up against my abuser now.
887
00:58:19,833 --> 00:58:21,843
-Why were you lying to the cops?
888
00:58:21,876 --> 00:58:23,796
-I was doing what I was told.
889
00:58:26,172 --> 00:58:28,932
It's really that simple. I
was doing what I was told.
890
00:58:28,967 --> 00:58:31,387
- By?
- My father.
891
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:43,769
-With regret, I'm here to inform
you that the skeletal remains
892
00:58:43,815 --> 00:58:45,475
found on December 11th
893
00:58:45,525 --> 00:58:48,945
are those of the missing
toddler, Caylee Anthony.
894
00:58:48,987 --> 00:58:51,907
-It appeared that a person
from the Anthony home
895
00:58:51,948 --> 00:58:53,988
taped her face up
with duct tape,
896
00:58:54,034 --> 00:58:57,204
stuffed her in a trash bag,
dumped her in the woods.
897
00:58:57,245 --> 00:58:59,205
-There was no question
in their minds
898
00:58:59,247 --> 00:59:01,617
about whether or not I did
anything to my daughter.
899
00:59:01,666 --> 00:59:04,996
-Everything was against her.
The world was against her.
900
00:59:05,045 --> 00:59:07,045
-You say that you think
she's a psychopath.
901
00:59:07,088 --> 00:59:09,008
- Absolutely.
- I said to Casey,
902
00:59:09,049 --> 00:59:11,339
"We have to really be
able to tell your story."
903
00:59:13,303 --> 00:59:17,853
-I did believe that Casey
was sexually abused,
904
00:59:17,891 --> 00:59:21,271
which is what the other
psychologists heard.
905
00:59:21,311 --> 00:59:24,691
It was like I was brainwashed.
906
00:59:24,731 --> 00:59:28,901
So I know you want to ask me
about the last day she was here,
907
00:59:28,943 --> 00:59:32,323
the last day that I saw her,
the day she disappeared.
908
00:59:34,449 --> 00:59:37,289
I know that's what
it's all leading up to.
909
00:59:37,327 --> 00:59:41,787
Why didn't I make a phone
call? Why didn't I call 911?
910
00:59:41,831 --> 00:59:44,751
Why lie?
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