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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,837 --> 00:00:06,632 ["Turn, Turn, Turn" by The Byrds] 2 00:00:16,017 --> 00:00:17,435 [door opens, bell rings] 3 00:00:17,435 --> 00:00:19,645 TOM PETTY: Too many variations of shit. 4 00:00:19,645 --> 00:00:22,189 - That's a Fender amp. - Mm hmm. 5 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:26,193 I wouldn't recognize that one, Bassbreaker 45. 6 00:00:26,944 --> 00:00:28,654 JAKOB DYLAN: I have a good question for you, though. 7 00:00:28,654 --> 00:00:31,282 In the 80s it was -- we said "Rickenbacher". 8 00:00:31,282 --> 00:00:32,742 - You guys all say Rickenbacker. - "Rickenbacker" 9 00:00:32,742 --> 00:00:33,993 - It's "backer". - Yeah. 10 00:00:33,993 --> 00:00:35,619 We already had a small debate earlier. 11 00:00:35,619 --> 00:00:36,829 We were from the South. 12 00:00:36,829 --> 00:00:39,415 - It's "backer", yeah. - I think so. 13 00:00:39,415 --> 00:00:41,500 There's no "bachers." No. 14 00:00:42,001 --> 00:00:44,003 PETTY: Is that one yours, Jakob? 15 00:00:44,170 --> 00:00:45,963 DYLAN: No, we used this one on the record, though. 16 00:00:45,963 --> 00:00:47,882 - REPAIRMAN: This is Andy's. - Yeah, that's Andy's. 17 00:00:47,882 --> 00:00:49,842 - DYLAN: Want to have a look? - PETTY: Bring it over here. 18 00:00:52,011 --> 00:00:53,345 [guitar amp hums] 19 00:00:55,306 --> 00:00:56,807 [strums guitar] 20 00:00:56,807 --> 00:00:59,310 This was the folk rock special. 21 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:01,937 All you had to do is move your little finger. 22 00:01:02,605 --> 00:01:05,733 [strumming melody] 23 00:01:20,414 --> 00:01:23,250 - You can't afford the rest. - [Jakob chuckles] 24 00:01:23,918 --> 00:01:30,007 ["Bells of Rhymney" performed by Jakob Dylan] 25 00:01:40,518 --> 00:01:43,854 ♪ Oh, what will you give me? ♪ 26 00:01:43,854 --> 00:01:50,027 ♪ Say the sad bells of Rhymney ♪ 27 00:01:52,196 --> 00:01:55,116 ♪ Is there hope for the future? ♪ 28 00:01:55,699 --> 00:02:00,454 ♪ Say the brown bells of Merther ♪ 29 00:02:02,331 --> 00:02:05,876 ♪ Who made the mine open? ♪ 30 00:02:05,876 --> 00:02:10,422 ♪ Say the black bells of Rhonda ♪ 31 00:02:12,299 --> 00:02:15,511 ♪ Ah...Ah... ♪ 32 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:23,185 ♪ Ah...Ah... ♪ 33 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:34,905 ["Wild Mountain Thyme" by The Byrds] 34 00:02:34,905 --> 00:02:39,827 ♪ Oh, the summer time is coming ♪ 35 00:02:40,995 --> 00:02:45,791 ♪ And the leaves are sweetly turning ♪ 36 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:47,418 JACKSON BROWNE: They gave it the name Laurel Canyon 37 00:02:47,418 --> 00:02:50,421 because it was the locus for all these musicians. 38 00:02:50,421 --> 00:02:51,922 It's where a lot of musicians lived. 39 00:02:51,922 --> 00:02:53,507 But they came to L.A. from everywhere. 40 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:57,261 They came from England and from all over America. 41 00:02:57,261 --> 00:02:59,889 And probably because of the record companies in L.A. 42 00:02:59,889 --> 00:03:01,891 They had to come to L.A. and this was the one place 43 00:03:01,891 --> 00:03:04,685 that you could live and it was the antithesis 44 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,520 of this sort of plastic, straight world 45 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,022 that you saw on television. 46 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:14,069 [sweeping music] 47 00:03:16,405 --> 00:03:21,202 LOU ADLER: To be that close to the Sunset Strip 48 00:03:21,785 --> 00:03:24,538 and yet you had a feel that you were in the country 49 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:27,791 and, you know, and totally different feel. It's beautiful. 50 00:03:28,334 --> 00:03:30,794 ["Expecting To Fly" by Buffalo Springfield] 51 00:03:30,794 --> 00:03:32,796 ♪ There you stood on ♪ 52 00:03:32,796 --> 00:03:36,008 ♪ The edge of your feather ♪ 53 00:03:37,259 --> 00:03:40,679 ♪ Expecting to fly ♪ 54 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:43,682 DAVID CROSBY: I think I might have been the first one to move there. 55 00:03:43,682 --> 00:03:47,645 I was living in one place, some-- some place way up the canyon. 56 00:03:47,978 --> 00:03:50,022 ROGER McGUlNN: There was a lot of camaraderie in the bands. 57 00:03:50,022 --> 00:03:52,358 We got to know Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys 58 00:03:52,358 --> 00:03:53,984 and, of course, The Mamas & Papas 59 00:03:53,984 --> 00:03:55,110 when they came along. 60 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:57,404 I'd known John and Michelle from New York 61 00:03:57,404 --> 00:04:01,033 and Mama Cass was great, a great social hostess. 62 00:04:01,575 --> 00:04:05,746 MICHELLE PHILLIPS: Laurel Canyon was always like a hangout for, 63 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:09,208 ah, bohemians and actors. 64 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:12,628 It was full of charming little houses 65 00:04:12,628 --> 00:04:14,755 and it was a very joyful time. 66 00:04:15,089 --> 00:04:17,716 ERIC CLAPTON: I loved it, because I've always loved eccentricity. 67 00:04:17,716 --> 00:04:21,679 I mean I'm attracted to eccentrics and they were there. 68 00:04:21,679 --> 00:04:22,930 And they were all there. 69 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:25,516 Everyone was writing and writing together. 70 00:04:25,516 --> 00:04:28,936 And you'd go over to someone's house 71 00:04:28,936 --> 00:04:30,437 and you always brought your guitar 72 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:32,773 and you'd sit around and you'd start playing, 73 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:36,235 and pretty soon you were writing a hit. 74 00:04:36,527 --> 00:04:38,195 GRAHAM NASH: People would not even call. 75 00:04:38,195 --> 00:04:39,613 They'd just knock on the door and go 76 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:41,115 "Listen, hey, listen to this!" 77 00:04:41,657 --> 00:04:44,285 That's an incredible environment for a musician to be in 78 00:04:44,285 --> 00:04:47,871 because it's incredibly healthy and incredibly forward-looking 79 00:04:47,871 --> 00:04:50,541 and incredibly creative and that's how I was feeling. 80 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:54,712 STEPHEN STILLS: There was so much great music floating around 81 00:04:54,712 --> 00:04:57,006 that you got little snippets of it and they -- 82 00:04:57,006 --> 00:04:59,174 they just filtered through you, you know? 83 00:05:03,512 --> 00:05:06,932 [guitar strumming] 84 00:05:06,932 --> 00:05:07,933 ANDREW SLATER: Good evening. 85 00:05:07,933 --> 00:05:10,185 [audience cheers] 86 00:05:11,020 --> 00:05:13,772 The great Los Angeles songwriter Warren Zevon 87 00:05:13,772 --> 00:05:14,857 once said that... 88 00:05:14,857 --> 00:05:16,525 [audience hoots and whistles] 89 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:17,943 I miss him every day. 90 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:22,364 He said if Roger McGuinn had just played the opening notes 91 00:05:22,364 --> 00:05:25,326 to The Byrds' debut album and dropped dead, 92 00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:27,703 he would have still exercised the most pronounced influence 93 00:05:27,703 --> 00:05:30,456 over the folk rock movement in 25 years. 94 00:05:30,456 --> 00:05:31,749 And he was right. 95 00:05:31,749 --> 00:05:35,461 Because in 1965 when those songs went on the radio, 96 00:05:35,461 --> 00:05:38,213 it was the first time a song of poetic depth and grace 97 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:40,966 had become a hit song and it inspired a whole generation 98 00:05:40,966 --> 00:05:45,679 of writers to write differently and to come to California, 99 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:48,599 which gave birth to the Laurel Canyon scene. 100 00:05:48,599 --> 00:05:52,603 So, the fiftieth anniversary of that moment was this summer. 101 00:05:52,603 --> 00:05:54,229 So Jakob and I decided, 102 00:05:54,229 --> 00:05:56,315 'cause nobody else was doing anything [chuckles], 103 00:05:56,315 --> 00:05:59,693 that we would make a record of those songwriters. 104 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:02,321 So now we're doing a show and you're all a part of it. 105 00:06:02,321 --> 00:06:05,032 [Audience cheers and applauds] 106 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:08,202 And thanks for coming and enjoy the show! 107 00:06:08,202 --> 00:06:10,871 [applause continues] 108 00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:14,833 DYLAN: You guys ready to go to the 60s? 109 00:06:14,833 --> 00:06:16,752 [audience cheers and applauds] 110 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:20,839 DYLAN VO: This is so great because the music that 111 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,717 came out of the Laurel Canyon scene in the 60s 112 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:27,012 was not only inspiring to other bands at that time, 113 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:30,015 but it also became inspiring to my generation 114 00:06:30,015 --> 00:06:31,850 of musicians and songwriters. 115 00:06:32,393 --> 00:06:35,062 And tonight is an opportunity, like folk music, 116 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:37,189 to pass it on to a new generation 117 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:40,359 and keep the echoes of that music growing. 118 00:06:40,359 --> 00:06:42,611 [music fades] 119 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:48,075 [people laughing and chatting indistinctly] 120 00:06:48,075 --> 00:06:50,577 [guitar strumming "Wild Mountain Thyme"] 121 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:53,914 ♪ Oh, the summer time is coming ♪ 122 00:06:55,874 --> 00:07:00,337 ♪ And the leaves are sweetly turning ♪ 123 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:06,260 ♪ And the wild mountain thyme ♪ 124 00:07:08,178 --> 00:07:12,307 ♪ Blooms across the purple heather ♪ 125 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:16,603 ♪ Will you go... ♪ 126 00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:18,981 - Can we start over? - I think I know it. We ready? 127 00:07:18,981 --> 00:07:20,774 I was gonna for a harmony but then I... 128 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:21,775 [Regina laughs] 129 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:24,611 What is the refrain, though? Is it...just "will you go"? 130 00:07:24,611 --> 00:07:25,779 I like the way you're doing it. 131 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:27,698 I just go "Will you go, will you go?" 132 00:07:27,698 --> 00:07:29,074 Sorry. 133 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:30,117 Well, we can do it again. 134 00:07:30,117 --> 00:07:32,327 I think the refrain just comes around again. 135 00:07:32,327 --> 00:07:33,787 We just -- these just kind of repeat. 136 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:35,330 Oh, we never -- what is all this? 137 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:37,166 I never saw any of this! 138 00:07:37,166 --> 00:07:38,292 [guitar strumming] 139 00:07:38,292 --> 00:07:41,670 ♪ Oh, the summer time is coming... ♪ 140 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:43,088 DYLAN VO: Why did we start all this? 141 00:07:43,088 --> 00:07:44,882 Well, we'd seen this movie "Model Shop". 142 00:07:44,882 --> 00:07:47,426 It reminded us of a lot of music from the 60s 143 00:07:47,426 --> 00:07:49,928 so we decided to go back and record some of the songs 144 00:07:49,928 --> 00:07:51,763 from the mid-60s 145 00:07:51,763 --> 00:07:55,809 and we got more and more curious on what brought everybody here. 146 00:07:56,518 --> 00:07:57,978 Who came out here first? 147 00:07:57,978 --> 00:08:00,230 Was it people from the east coast coming out here? 148 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:04,359 Or was it people here that started it just independently? 149 00:08:04,359 --> 00:08:06,320 Beach Boys were already here. 150 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,198 I think The Byrds came out first and everybody else followed. 151 00:08:09,198 --> 00:08:12,993 And how did The Byrds come to be? 152 00:08:12,993 --> 00:08:14,536 BECK: It started so innocently. 153 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:15,871 ["I Wanna Hold Your Hand" by The Beatles] 154 00:08:15,871 --> 00:08:19,082 ♪ Oh yeah I'll tell you somethin' ♪ 155 00:08:19,917 --> 00:08:22,377 ♪ I think you'll understand ♪ 156 00:08:22,377 --> 00:08:24,046 McGUlNN: The Beatles came out. 157 00:08:24,046 --> 00:08:25,297 And I heard this on the radio... 158 00:08:25,297 --> 00:08:27,591 [plays riff from "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"] 159 00:08:27,591 --> 00:08:30,886 And I said wow, you know, they're using folk music chord changes, 160 00:08:30,886 --> 00:08:32,137 all these passing chords. 161 00:08:32,137 --> 00:08:34,014 [plays chords] 162 00:08:35,057 --> 00:08:37,476 So, it gave me an idea of taking an old folk song 163 00:08:37,476 --> 00:08:39,353 and suping it up with a Beatle beat. 164 00:08:39,353 --> 00:08:40,854 And I took it down to the village 165 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:42,981 and played it at the Café Playhouse. 166 00:08:42,981 --> 00:08:44,399 And they didn't like it. 167 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:46,693 They didn't like the rock 'n' roll 168 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:48,570 and folk music combined. 169 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:50,781 They thought it was kind of a bad idea. 170 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:54,618 You know, the coolest thing about Roger, and I -- 171 00:08:54,618 --> 00:08:56,703 it was like the first day I met him, 172 00:08:56,703 --> 00:09:01,875 he came into the Playhouse Café with a Gibson 12-string, 173 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:05,170 and he plays "I Wanna Hold Your Hand". 174 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:06,129 Hmm. 175 00:09:06,129 --> 00:09:08,215 And I went "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" 176 00:09:08,215 --> 00:09:12,010 as a one guitar folk thing? 177 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:15,806 And it was really a remarkable, ballsy thing. 178 00:09:15,806 --> 00:09:18,016 - And he did take abuse for it. - Yeah. 179 00:09:18,016 --> 00:09:20,686 I know a lot of people were going what's he doing? 180 00:09:20,686 --> 00:09:22,229 So I went out to L.A. 181 00:09:22,229 --> 00:09:24,982 and I got gig at the Troubadour opening up for Hoyt Axton 182 00:09:24,982 --> 00:09:26,441 doing the same thing. 183 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:27,859 And they didn't like it there, either. 184 00:09:27,859 --> 00:09:30,779 And that's when I got together with Gene Clark 185 00:09:30,779 --> 00:09:33,532 and David Crosby and we got The Byrds together. 186 00:09:33,532 --> 00:09:35,284 There was a lot of funny shit that happened. 187 00:09:35,284 --> 00:09:38,036 Ah, [chuckles] we were rehearsing 188 00:09:38,036 --> 00:09:41,415 in an old recording studio down on Third Avenue, 189 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:44,251 ah, World Pacific I think it was called. 190 00:09:44,251 --> 00:09:45,669 Used to be a jazz studio. 191 00:09:45,669 --> 00:09:48,005 After they were through using the studio at night, 192 00:09:48,005 --> 00:09:50,549 we would go in there and rehearse. 193 00:09:50,549 --> 00:09:53,218 And it did The Byrds a great deal of good because 194 00:09:53,218 --> 00:09:55,554 we would have to listen to it back. 195 00:09:55,554 --> 00:09:57,931 If you hear how awful you are then you work harder! 196 00:09:57,931 --> 00:09:58,849 DYLAN: Mm hmm. 197 00:09:58,849 --> 00:10:00,475 And so, that's exactly what we did. 198 00:10:00,475 --> 00:10:04,062 And then, after we started getting good with it, ah, 199 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:06,023 Dylan showed up. 200 00:10:07,983 --> 00:10:09,943 You have to be more specific. 201 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:10,944 [Chuckles] No, I'm kidding! 202 00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:12,112 You mean there's more than one? 203 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:13,030 [chuckling] Yeah! 204 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:14,197 - Bob showed up. - Okay. 205 00:10:14,197 --> 00:10:16,950 And he, 'cause he had heard we were doing "Tambourine Man". 206 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:18,535 He listened to us play it electric 207 00:10:18,535 --> 00:10:21,747 and he you can hear the gears turning, you know. 208 00:10:21,747 --> 00:10:24,124 He knew he wanted to do that immediately. 209 00:10:24,583 --> 00:10:28,211 With The Byrds the real accomplishment is the melding 210 00:10:28,211 --> 00:10:31,715 of, you know, folk music and rock 'n' roll 211 00:10:31,715 --> 00:10:33,425 and I mean all the bands you think of that 212 00:10:33,425 --> 00:10:35,177 as that California sound. 213 00:10:36,178 --> 00:10:38,347 Really none of them sound exactly like The Byrds. 214 00:10:38,347 --> 00:10:40,515 ["I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better" by The Byrds] 215 00:10:40,515 --> 00:10:42,601 ♪ The reasons why ♪ 216 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:45,145 PETTY: That 12-string riff is pretty spectacular. 217 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:48,148 That's a pretty big moment in rock music. 218 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:51,943 That's really, you know, two things clashing together 219 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:53,779 in a huge wave. 220 00:10:53,779 --> 00:10:57,157 And it would create a whole genre of music quickly. 221 00:10:57,532 --> 00:10:59,534 I loved the sound that McGuinn got out 222 00:10:59,534 --> 00:11:03,038 of the 12-string and I thought that the way he placed that, 223 00:11:03,038 --> 00:11:06,708 and Crosby's rhythm, you know, underpinning it, 224 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:09,336 they were the powerful band that we all wanted to be! 225 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:12,756 ["I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better" continues] 226 00:11:14,716 --> 00:11:16,134 CLAPTON: I liked The Byrds a lot 227 00:11:16,134 --> 00:11:18,512 and I liked their kind of philosophy, 228 00:11:18,512 --> 00:11:22,516 the musical philosophy, really, of, you know, folk rock. 229 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:25,185 Folk rock to me was -- it was the songwriting, too. 230 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:27,145 - Yeah, it was good. - It was beautiful. 231 00:11:27,145 --> 00:11:29,815 ♪ Oh, what will you give me? 232 00:11:30,357 --> 00:11:35,320 ♪ Sang the sad bells of Rhymney ♪ 233 00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:40,492 BROWNE: Folk music is just an older form of songwriting. 234 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:43,328 You learn a song from somebody, 235 00:11:43,328 --> 00:11:46,289 maybe it was your uncle or somebody who learned it from 236 00:11:46,289 --> 00:11:48,583 a knife sharpener who traveled through the South 237 00:11:48,583 --> 00:11:51,336 sharpening knives and scissors who also played banjo and fiddle. 238 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:52,713 "The Bells of Rhymney" by The Byrds] 239 00:11:52,713 --> 00:11:55,674 When The Byrds came out, there were people who disapproved 240 00:11:55,674 --> 00:11:59,094 of doing those folk songs with a band. 241 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,430 But it was very infectious. 242 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:05,100 That's a big step forward from "Love Me Do" 243 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:07,102 to any of those things. 244 00:12:07,102 --> 00:12:10,564 And we started to take rock 'n' roll seriously, 245 00:12:10,564 --> 00:12:13,942 'cause, yeah, no one took it seriously before that. 246 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:16,653 We were putting good poetry on the radio, 247 00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:18,530 AM radio, pop radio. 248 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:20,240 It was the first time. 249 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:24,411 There wasn't any of that before. It was June, Moon, Spoon. 250 00:12:24,411 --> 00:12:27,414 ♪ Baby I love you Ooh, ooh ♪ 251 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:30,125 Wasn't "Dance beneath the diamond sky 252 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:32,502 with one hand waving free." 253 00:12:32,502 --> 00:12:34,296 It changed everything for everybody. 254 00:12:34,296 --> 00:12:35,547 Yeah. 255 00:12:36,882 --> 00:12:38,091 Fiona, are you here? 256 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,843 [audience cheers] 257 00:12:43,597 --> 00:12:45,474 [audience cheers] 258 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,519 DYLAN: I actually met Fiona when she was 17. 259 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,563 She'll probably be embarrassed if I say that. 260 00:12:51,563 --> 00:12:52,731 [Apple chuckles] 261 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:54,816 Too late now! 262 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:56,109 Ready? 263 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,235 Let's do a Byrds song. 264 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:58,528 [drumsticks count in] 265 00:12:58,528 --> 00:13:01,031 ["It Won't Be Wrong"] 266 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:11,958 ♪ Oh, every time I see you smile ♪ 267 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:16,004 ♪ Now, come to me now, don't be long ♪ 268 00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:19,633 ♪ Let me tell you how my heart goes wild ♪ 269 00:13:20,217 --> 00:13:24,054 ♪ Please let me love you and it won't be wrong ♪ 270 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:29,434 ♪ Every time you're in my arms ♪ 271 00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:33,855 ♪ Come to me, don't be long ♪ 272 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:37,609 ♪ You know that I will never do you harm ♪ 273 00:13:37,609 --> 00:13:41,488 ♪ Please let me love you and it won't be wrong ♪ 274 00:13:43,615 --> 00:13:46,660 ♪ Let me love you and then you'll see ♪ 275 00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:51,331 ♪ Now, come to me, now, come to me ♪ 276 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:54,584 ♪ Let me show you once and we'll be free ♪ 277 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:59,047 ♪ Please let me love you and it won't be wrong ♪ 278 00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:04,344 [music continues] 279 00:14:12,143 --> 00:14:13,895 McGUlNN: The Beatles came to America 280 00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:15,522 and they asked them who's your favorite band? 281 00:14:15,522 --> 00:14:16,648 And they said The Byrds! 282 00:14:16,648 --> 00:14:17,774 And we were just blown away. 283 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:19,025 We kind of dressed like 'em. 284 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:21,903 In fact, we bought these suits that had black velvet collars. 285 00:14:21,903 --> 00:14:23,822 And we used to wear them to Ciro's every night 286 00:14:23,822 --> 00:14:25,031 while we were doing our gig. 287 00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:26,199 That worked for about a week. 288 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:27,576 We'd hang them up in the dressing room 289 00:14:27,576 --> 00:14:29,870 and put back our t-shirts and jeans and go home. 290 00:14:29,870 --> 00:14:33,206 Well, one night we got to Ciro's and the suits were gone. 291 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,666 And I told this to John Lennon. 292 00:14:34,666 --> 00:14:36,543 He said, "I wished they'd stolen our suits." 293 00:14:36,543 --> 00:14:37,711 [Dylan chuckles] 294 00:14:37,711 --> 00:14:40,881 [plays "It Won't Be Wrong"] 295 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:49,139 ♪ Every time I see you smile ♪ 296 00:14:49,598 --> 00:14:53,059 ♪ Come to me, don't be long ♪ 297 00:14:53,059 --> 00:14:56,396 ♪ Let me tell you how my heart goes wild ♪ 298 00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:59,691 ♪ Please let me love you and it won't be wrong ♪ 299 00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:02,068 [continues playing] 300 00:15:03,028 --> 00:15:04,404 ["The Bells of Rhymney" by The Byrds] 301 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:07,115 [air traffic control speaks indistinctly] 302 00:15:11,912 --> 00:15:13,288 McGUlNN: We were invited to go to England 303 00:15:13,288 --> 00:15:14,748 and we were really jazzed because 304 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:16,833 this is where The Beatles and The Stones were. 305 00:15:16,833 --> 00:15:18,793 Then we got there and we discovered we'd been billed 306 00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:21,338 as America's answer to The Beatles. 307 00:15:21,338 --> 00:15:23,632 And it was a little tough to live up to. 308 00:15:23,632 --> 00:15:26,217 And they came to see us one night at the Blaises Club 309 00:15:26,217 --> 00:15:29,012 and Chris was so nervous he broke a bass string. 310 00:15:29,012 --> 00:15:31,181 And nobody ever breaks a bass string, but he did. 311 00:15:31,181 --> 00:15:33,767 Then we went upstairs after the show 312 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:35,060 and John and George came up 313 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:37,312 and John said "Great show!" you know. 314 00:15:37,312 --> 00:15:39,356 They loved us. They were really nice to us. 315 00:15:39,356 --> 00:15:42,817 When we came over there finally, they were extremely cool. 316 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,236 REPORTER: Who is the young man with the lengthy haircut 317 00:15:45,236 --> 00:15:46,655 to your right rear? 318 00:15:46,655 --> 00:15:47,656 PAUL McCARTNEY: Who is it? 319 00:15:47,656 --> 00:15:50,867 JOHN LENNON: That's Dave from The Byrds, a mate of ours. 320 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:53,995 McGUlNN: And then the next night we went to the Scotch at St. James 321 00:15:53,995 --> 00:15:57,624 and Paul McCartney, this is his private club. 322 00:15:57,624 --> 00:16:00,335 And we had a couple of drinks, and he took me for a ride 323 00:16:00,335 --> 00:16:03,046 in his Aston Martin DB5 around London. 324 00:16:03,046 --> 00:16:04,547 And then we hung out at The Stones' house 325 00:16:04,547 --> 00:16:06,508 and they showed us how they rolled joints. 326 00:16:06,508 --> 00:16:08,051 And they had a butler that rolled joints 327 00:16:08,051 --> 00:16:11,179 and put them on the stairs for them in the morning 328 00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:12,055 like the morning coffee! [chuckling] 329 00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:13,014 Yeah. 330 00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:14,849 The Byrds were great. 331 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,476 They just became our friends. 332 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:18,561 I mean when we came to L.A., 333 00:16:18,561 --> 00:16:21,189 they came and hung out with us, you know. 334 00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:25,026 That 12-string sound was great and the voices were great. 335 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:26,861 So we loved The Byrds. 336 00:16:26,861 --> 00:16:30,699 They introduced us to a hallucinogenic situation. 337 00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:31,825 Hmm. 338 00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:35,078 And, ah, we had a really good time. 339 00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:39,207 PETTY: The Beatles actually started the folk rock 340 00:16:39,207 --> 00:16:40,375 in California. 341 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:45,714 It was -- and it probably was the California guys 342 00:16:45,714 --> 00:16:47,924 trying to grab hold of that sound. 343 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,719 It's all full of strange coincidences. 344 00:16:50,719 --> 00:16:54,222 John Hall of the Rickenbacker company flying to New York 345 00:16:54,222 --> 00:16:56,891 because he'd heard The Beatles played Rickenbacker 346 00:16:56,891 --> 00:16:59,019 and going up to the suite 347 00:16:59,019 --> 00:17:03,314 with the second Rickenbacker 12-string ever made, 348 00:17:03,314 --> 00:17:04,983 giving it to George. 349 00:17:04,983 --> 00:17:06,901 He brought it for John 350 00:17:06,901 --> 00:17:09,612 because he's the one that played the Rickenbacker. 351 00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:12,323 But George had the flu, the other three had gone out 352 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:15,035 for a photo session, and George nabbed the 12-string. 353 00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:15,952 Mm hmm. 354 00:17:15,952 --> 00:17:18,788 That changed pop music, you know, 355 00:17:18,788 --> 00:17:20,790 rock music I guess you would call it. 356 00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:23,001 We should have the nerve to call it rock music, 357 00:17:23,001 --> 00:17:25,170 I mean it was rock 'n' roll music. 358 00:17:25,503 --> 00:17:27,714 Everything was influencing everything. 359 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:31,718 With this huge witches brew of, you know, 360 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:33,303 and things would pop out. 361 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:35,889 I mean and transatlantic, too, 'cause we were all listening 362 00:17:35,889 --> 00:17:37,891 to each other's records, you know. 363 00:17:37,891 --> 00:17:42,312 And The Beatles were doing their cop on The Byrds 364 00:17:42,312 --> 00:17:46,733 with one song and then they were doing The Beach Boys 365 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,318 with "Girl", you know. 366 00:17:48,318 --> 00:17:49,736 ["California Girls" by The Beach Boys] 367 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:54,074 ♪ I wish they all could be California girls ♪ 368 00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:57,911 ♪ (I wish they all could be California) ♪ 369 00:17:57,911 --> 00:18:03,666 ♪ I wish they all could be California girls ♪ 370 00:18:06,211 --> 00:18:10,215 I was a sucker for Brian's work right away. 371 00:18:10,215 --> 00:18:13,134 I was very close friends with Felix Pappalardi 372 00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:16,054 and he was the guy who pointed out to me 373 00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:19,599 the Bach-like qualities. 374 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:22,227 And he said listen to this chord sequence. 375 00:18:22,227 --> 00:18:27,899 They're using like Bach chordal movements in there. 376 00:18:27,899 --> 00:18:30,652 I mean that was really important. 377 00:18:30,652 --> 00:18:34,572 ♪ Yeah, but I couldn't wait to get back in the States ♪ 378 00:18:34,572 --> 00:18:37,784 ♪ Back to the cutest girls in the world ♪ 379 00:18:39,202 --> 00:18:43,456 ♪ I wish they all could be California girls ♪ 380 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:47,669 ♪ (I wish they all could be California) ♪ 381 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:53,716 ♪ I wish they all could be California girls ♪ 382 00:18:53,716 --> 00:18:55,969 Well, they were the other band that we admired. 383 00:18:57,512 --> 00:18:58,721 They were it. 384 00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:02,809 Everybody else -- and they were as establishment as they could be, 385 00:19:02,809 --> 00:19:04,435 but they were good. 386 00:19:04,435 --> 00:19:06,563 They had good songs 'cause of Brian 387 00:19:06,563 --> 00:19:08,439 and they had really interesting harmonies, 388 00:19:08,439 --> 00:19:10,900 completely different than anybody else. 389 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:12,735 So, we liked them a lot. 390 00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:14,737 DICK CLARK: May I have, I'm sure most everybody knows 391 00:19:14,737 --> 00:19:17,907 but for anybody who might not, may be introduce you by name? 392 00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:19,450 - Al Jardine. - Thank you, Al. 393 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:20,827 - Dennis Wilson. - Thank you. 394 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:23,204 - Brian Wilson. - Carl Wilson. 395 00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:24,205 Mike Love. 396 00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:26,749 Who determines what will be done next? 397 00:19:27,458 --> 00:19:29,878 Well, I guess I do. I don't know. [chuckles] 398 00:19:29,878 --> 00:19:31,379 I write the songs and produce them, 399 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,214 so I have a lot to say about it. 400 00:19:33,715 --> 00:19:36,384 PETTY: I can't see something in Mozart 401 00:19:36,384 --> 00:19:38,678 that's better than Brian Wilson. 402 00:19:39,387 --> 00:19:41,222 I think you could make that case. 403 00:19:42,265 --> 00:19:43,933 Those guys would have loved him. 404 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:45,143 Hmm. 405 00:19:45,727 --> 00:19:47,854 He's really just too good. He's [laughs] 406 00:19:47,854 --> 00:19:49,022 Yeah. 407 00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:53,151 He's not a guy that comes down the pike in many lifetimes. 408 00:19:53,151 --> 00:19:55,028 That's pretty special stuff. 409 00:19:55,028 --> 00:19:57,739 ["In My Room"] 410 00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:05,872 ♪ In this world I lock out ♪ 411 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:12,462 ♪ All my worries and my fears ♪ 412 00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:16,424 ♪ In my room ♪ 413 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:23,056 ♪ In my room ♪ 414 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:26,684 ♪ (In my room) ♪ 415 00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:32,232 ♪ I do my dreaming ♪ 416 00:20:32,232 --> 00:20:35,693 ♪ And my scheming ♪ 417 00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:40,490 ♪ Lie awake and pray ♪ 418 00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:50,291 ♪ Do my crying And my sighing ♪ 419 00:20:50,291 --> 00:20:56,381 ♪ Laugh at yesterday ♪ 420 00:20:57,423 --> 00:21:03,846 ♪ Now it's dark and I'm alone ♪ 421 00:21:03,846 --> 00:21:09,560 ♪ But I won't be afraid ♪ 422 00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:12,897 ♪ In my room ♪ 423 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:19,946 ♪ In my room ♪ 424 00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:23,616 ♪ In my room ♪ 425 00:21:23,992 --> 00:21:26,953 ♪ In my room ♪ 426 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:32,333 ♪ In my room ♪ 427 00:21:34,419 --> 00:21:36,963 [audience cheers] 428 00:21:37,964 --> 00:21:41,342 "In My Room", oh my God, you know. 429 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:47,181 Who has not, you know, sought solace of your -- the privacy 430 00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:49,892 and the solace of your own room, your own space. 431 00:21:49,892 --> 00:21:52,353 It can be said in a million ways, 432 00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:54,981 but I mean just that -- that song was so beautiful. 433 00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:58,109 Beach Boys was a primary thing 434 00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:02,238 when Cream was kind of philosophically driven by it, 435 00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:05,033 by the idea that we could somehow do something like that. 436 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:09,078 Or be inspired by that, Pet Sounds, you know. 437 00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:13,374 PHILLIPS: They lived right down the street from us, Brian and Marilyn. 438 00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:16,544 And one day I went over there and the whole living room 439 00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:18,004 was full of sand. 440 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:21,132 And there was nothing in the living room 441 00:22:21,132 --> 00:22:26,804 but a Steinway and a piano bench and just all sand. 442 00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:31,142 And I looked at her and I said what is going on? 443 00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:36,439 She said I know it's crazy but he's writing some great songs. 444 00:22:36,439 --> 00:22:37,565 Mm hmm. 445 00:22:37,815 --> 00:22:39,901 And he was writing Pet Sounds! 446 00:22:40,151 --> 00:22:44,238 ["You Still Believe In Me" by The Beach Boys] 447 00:22:44,238 --> 00:22:48,201 PETTY: I won that record on the radio, ah, on a call-in! 448 00:22:48,618 --> 00:22:52,163 Like I was standing by the phone 449 00:22:52,163 --> 00:22:54,707 and some trivia question was asked. 450 00:22:55,625 --> 00:22:58,211 I called right away and answered it and I won a record! 451 00:22:58,211 --> 00:22:59,420 [chuckles] 452 00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:01,047 And it was Pet Sounds. 453 00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:05,426 It took me a few spins to understand, like, 454 00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:06,803 what's going on here. 455 00:23:06,803 --> 00:23:09,597 But I just fell in love with that record. 456 00:23:10,264 --> 00:23:11,391 It's different. 457 00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:13,142 You know, it's off in a corner by itself. 458 00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:15,395 Nobody else did that successfully, 459 00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:16,562 not to the level they did 460 00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:18,398 'cause they didn't have a writer like Brian. 461 00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:21,943 I was just kind of maybe too young to really appreciate 462 00:23:21,943 --> 00:23:25,154 how incredibly sophisticated the music was. 463 00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:29,242 I just saw five guys wearing the same shirt holding one surfboard 464 00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:30,535 and I thought it was lame. 465 00:23:30,535 --> 00:23:31,661 Hmm. 466 00:23:31,661 --> 00:23:35,123 But all that changed when I heard Pet Sounds. 467 00:23:35,123 --> 00:23:37,708 That's said to be responsible for Sgt. Pepper, 468 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:38,960 you know, totally. 469 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,170 Imagine a band influencing The Beatles. 470 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:46,217 [needle scratches] 471 00:23:49,137 --> 00:23:53,891 [Jakob Dylan singing] ♪ I keep looking for a place to fit in ♪ 472 00:23:53,891 --> 00:23:58,229 ♪ Where I can speak my mind ♪ 473 00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:03,734 ♪ And I've been trying hard to find the people ♪ 474 00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:08,030 ♪ That I won't leave behind ♪ 475 00:24:08,823 --> 00:24:10,950 ♪ They say I got brains ♪ 476 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:15,496 ♪ But they ain't doing me no good ♪ 477 00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:17,999 ♪ I wish they could ♪ 478 00:24:18,749 --> 00:24:23,421 ♪ And each time things start to happen again ♪ 479 00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:27,842 ♪ I think I got something good goin' for myself ♪ 480 00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:30,303 ♪ But what goes wrong ♪ 481 00:24:30,928 --> 00:24:35,516 ♪ Now, sometimes I feel very sad ♪ 482 00:24:36,058 --> 00:24:41,230 ♪ Sometimes I feel very sad ♪ 483 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:43,399 [music continues] 484 00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:45,943 Do you want to sit at the piano? 485 00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:47,028 Does the song sound familiar to you? 486 00:24:47,028 --> 00:24:48,988 - Do you need me at the piano? - Yeah, come on. 487 00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:51,991 We're working on a couple of your songs. 488 00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:53,743 [Brian Wilson plays piano] 489 00:24:56,704 --> 00:24:59,207 DYLAN: We're working on "Just Wasn't Made For These Times". 490 00:24:59,207 --> 00:25:01,083 What key is your original key? Do you remember? 491 00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:02,376 My original -- B-flat. 492 00:25:02,376 --> 00:25:03,503 We're in E-flat. 493 00:25:03,503 --> 00:25:05,129 E-flat, oh, you got the wrong key! 494 00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:06,589 [laughter] 495 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:08,090 We'll get capos. 496 00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:10,051 Yeah, play it in E-flat or E or wherever you do. 497 00:25:10,051 --> 00:25:11,385 Okay, cool. 498 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:15,348 [band starts "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"] 499 00:25:27,818 --> 00:25:30,112 [music continues] 500 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:41,374 BRIAN WILSON: Well, Bach influenced "California Girls", 501 00:25:41,374 --> 00:25:44,919 the duh, duh-duh, duh-duh, that kind of a beat, shuffle rhythm. 502 00:25:44,919 --> 00:25:47,421 Chuck Berry and the Four Freshmen taught me harmony 503 00:25:47,421 --> 00:25:51,217 and Chuck Berry taught me rock 'n' roll melodies. 504 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:55,096 Well, I learned violin arrangement from George Martin. 505 00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:56,931 I learned how to make -- write out, you know, 506 00:25:56,931 --> 00:25:58,474 violin for violin players. 507 00:25:58,474 --> 00:26:00,685 I wrote manuscript for them, and they played it -- 508 00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:02,562 if they played it wrong I can walk out and go 509 00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:04,522 "You got it wrong, buddy. You gotta do this right", 510 00:26:04,522 --> 00:26:07,441 you know, and they'd fix their instruments and they'd do it. 511 00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:08,484 Hmm. 512 00:26:08,484 --> 00:26:11,028 Well, The Beatles were probably my favorite group, you know. 513 00:26:11,028 --> 00:26:12,738 I really liked them a lot. 514 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:15,575 With Rubber Soul, one of my buddies brought it over 515 00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:16,701 and played it for me. 516 00:26:16,701 --> 00:26:19,579 I said I can't believe this album! You know? 517 00:26:19,579 --> 00:26:22,290 He kept playing it and playing it and I said wow! 518 00:26:22,290 --> 00:26:23,332 I couldn't believe it. 519 00:26:23,332 --> 00:26:25,334 That made me write the Pet Sounds album. 520 00:26:25,334 --> 00:26:29,672 ♪ Now, sometimes I feel very sad ♪ 521 00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:34,719 ♪ Now, sometimes I feel very sad ♪ 522 00:26:35,428 --> 00:26:38,723 [music continues] 523 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:45,396 ♪ And I guess I just wasn't made for these times ♪ 524 00:26:45,396 --> 00:26:50,109 ♪ (I guess I just wasn't made for these times) ♪ 525 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:55,823 ♪ And I guess I just wasn't made for these times ♪ 526 00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:01,078 [music continues] 527 00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:10,921 [indistinct conversation] 528 00:27:13,758 --> 00:27:16,093 ["Dedicated to the One I Love" by The Mamas & and the Papas] 529 00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:21,891 ♪ While I'm far away from you my baby ♪ 530 00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:28,898 ♪ I know it's hard for you my baby ♪ 531 00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:36,405 ♪ Because it's hard for me my baby ♪ 532 00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:41,535 ♪ And the darkest hour is just before dawn ♪ 533 00:27:43,496 --> 00:27:49,418 ♪ Each night before you go to bed my baby ♪ 534 00:27:50,252 --> 00:27:56,634 ♪ Whisper a little prayer for me my baby ♪ 535 00:27:57,343 --> 00:28:03,599 ♪ Because it's hard for me my baby ♪ 536 00:28:04,058 --> 00:28:08,104 ♪ And the darkest hour is just before dawn ♪ 537 00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:12,692 PHILLIPS: We had the radio on and The Byrds came on. 538 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:16,237 I mean it was The Byrds. 539 00:28:16,237 --> 00:28:18,698 We were sure of it because we knew them. 540 00:28:18,698 --> 00:28:20,574 We knew them personally and we were friends with them. 541 00:28:20,574 --> 00:28:24,620 So we said God, if The Byrds can have a hit, 542 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:27,081 anybody can have a hit! [laughing] 543 00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:28,999 Hmm. 544 00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:32,253 So, we've got to get back to L.A. 545 00:28:32,253 --> 00:28:34,088 But we were staying at the Albert Hotel. 546 00:28:34,088 --> 00:28:36,507 That's where all the musicians kind of stayed 547 00:28:36,507 --> 00:28:38,134 when they went into town. 548 00:28:38,134 --> 00:28:40,302 And since John and I had gotten married, 549 00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:41,846 I wanted to go back home. 550 00:28:42,179 --> 00:28:45,015 And he said we can't go back home. 551 00:28:45,015 --> 00:28:46,142 We can't. 552 00:28:46,142 --> 00:28:48,769 The music business is here in New York. 553 00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:50,938 That's when he woke me up in the middle of the night 554 00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:53,107 and he said I'm writing a song. 555 00:28:53,107 --> 00:28:54,400 Listen to this. 556 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,901 And he played: 557 00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,987 ♪ All the leaves are brown ♪ 558 00:28:58,821 --> 00:29:01,073 ♪ And the sky is gray ♪ 559 00:29:02,408 --> 00:29:04,201 ♪ I've been for a walk... ♪ 560 00:29:04,201 --> 00:29:05,661 ♪ (I've been for a walk) ♪ 561 00:29:05,661 --> 00:29:07,621 ♪ On a winter's day ♪ 562 00:29:07,621 --> 00:29:10,249 ♪ (on a winter's day) ♪ 563 00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:11,709 ♪ I'd be safe and warm ♪ 564 00:29:11,709 --> 00:29:14,086 ♪ (I'd be safe and warm) ♪ 565 00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,172 ♪ If I was in L.A. ♪ 566 00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:18,758 ♪ (if I was in L.A.) ♪ 567 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:22,887 ♪ California dreamin' (California dreamin') ♪ 568 00:29:22,887 --> 00:29:25,639 ♪ On such a winter's day... ♪ 569 00:29:26,849 --> 00:29:28,851 [guitar strumming] 570 00:29:28,851 --> 00:29:30,728 DYLAN: Has it been a while since you've been in this room? 571 00:29:30,728 --> 00:29:35,816 I was just saying that this is where we first sang 572 00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,360 for Lou Adler, in this studio. 573 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,320 In this room, too? 574 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,989 We recorded in 3, but this is where we, 575 00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:44,867 just where we're standing right now, 576 00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:49,038 we sang practically the first album for Lou. 577 00:29:49,038 --> 00:29:50,456 And what were some of the songs you sang 578 00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:51,999 in the audition that you had? 579 00:29:51,999 --> 00:29:54,001 "California Dreamin"", 580 00:29:54,001 --> 00:29:55,586 "Monday Monday", 581 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,838 "Go Where You Wanna Go." 582 00:29:57,838 --> 00:29:59,757 - You had some good ones, then. - You know. 583 00:29:59,757 --> 00:30:00,925 [everyone chuckles] 584 00:30:00,925 --> 00:30:02,384 - Wow. - We had some material. 585 00:30:02,384 --> 00:30:06,263 And he said, with his hat pulled down over his nose like this, 586 00:30:06,263 --> 00:30:08,432 you know, "Why don't you guys come back tomorrow. 587 00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:09,892 We'll talk about this tomorrow." 588 00:30:09,892 --> 00:30:11,560 "Okay." [everyone chuckles] 589 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,937 And when we came back, 590 00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:16,232 the contracts were all over the floor at Studio 3 591 00:30:16,232 --> 00:30:19,068 and they were handing out pens like here! 592 00:30:19,068 --> 00:30:21,195 Sign this! Sign this! Sign this! [chuckling] 593 00:30:21,195 --> 00:30:23,030 Well, then the audition went well, obviously. 594 00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:23,989 It did! 595 00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:26,700 ADLER: I think the first studio I recorded in, 596 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,412 that's all the equipment they had, just this little slab here. 597 00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:35,835 The piano was in the middle. 598 00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:41,549 Hal Blaine and his drums were there. 599 00:30:41,549 --> 00:30:46,303 John Phillips and his 12-string, P. F. Sloan, 600 00:30:46,303 --> 00:30:48,055 maybe Glen Campbell, 601 00:30:48,055 --> 00:30:50,599 Billy Strange, one of those guitar players -- 602 00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:52,643 - All in here. - would be in a line. 603 00:30:52,643 --> 00:30:56,480 We were at the end of a take and Denny Doherty -- 604 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,232 it was pretty wild through the night. 605 00:30:58,232 --> 00:31:00,401 It got wilder and wilder. 606 00:31:00,401 --> 00:31:03,821 A lot of Crown Royal bags laying everything. 607 00:31:03,821 --> 00:31:07,867 And Denny had fallen asleep on the piano. 608 00:31:08,534 --> 00:31:12,788 And John said "Denny, get up. I need a note." 609 00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:16,584 And we couldn't raise Denny. 610 00:31:16,584 --> 00:31:20,713 So, we put -- got a microphone and pulled it over here. 611 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:21,630 Hmm. 612 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:23,966 And put it over Denny like that. 613 00:31:23,966 --> 00:31:28,012 And John leaned down and sang the note to him. 614 00:31:28,012 --> 00:31:31,640 Denny sang the note, he got the note he wanted, 615 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,434 he went right back to sleep. 616 00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:34,435 [Dylan chuckles] 617 00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:36,478 But it's a fantastic room. I mean it's -- 618 00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,772 DYLAN: This room looks exactly the same I would think, no? 619 00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:40,149 ADLER: The room looks exactly the same. 620 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:42,109 The speakers are a little different. 621 00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:47,323 But the room looks and feels exactly the same. 622 00:31:47,323 --> 00:31:50,784 ♪ Bah-da bah-da-da-da ♪ 623 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,538 ♪ Bah-da bah-da-da-da ♪ 624 00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:58,083 ♪ Monday, Monday (Bah-da bah-da-da-da) ♪ 625 00:31:58,083 --> 00:32:03,005 ♪ So good to me (Bah-da bah-da-da-da) ♪ 626 00:32:03,005 --> 00:32:05,674 ♪ Monday, Monday (Bah-da bah-da-da-da) ♪ 627 00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:10,387 ♪ It was all I hoped it would be ♪ 628 00:32:11,347 --> 00:32:15,559 ♪ Oh Monday mornin', Monday mornin' ♪ 629 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,979 ♪ Couldn't guarantee ♪ 630 00:32:19,813 --> 00:32:26,195 ♪ That Monday evenin' you would still be here with me ♪ 631 00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:31,450 ♪ Monday, Monday ♪ 632 00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:35,162 ♪ Can't trust that day ♪ 633 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,124 ♪ Monday, Monday ♪ 634 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:44,004 ♪ Sometimes it just turns out that way ♪ 635 00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:49,218 ♪ Oh Monday mornin' you gave me no warnin' ♪ 636 00:32:49,218 --> 00:32:52,137 ♪ Of what was to be ♪ 637 00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:57,393 ♪ Oh Monday, Monday how could you leave ♪ 638 00:32:57,393 --> 00:32:59,603 ♪ and not take me ♪ 639 00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:06,527 ♪ Every other day (every other day) ♪ 640 00:33:06,527 --> 00:33:10,572 ♪ Of the week is fine, yeah ♪ 641 00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:13,492 ♪ But whenever Monday comes (but whenever Monday comes) ♪ 642 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:15,077 ♪ But whenever Monday comes ♪ 643 00:33:15,077 --> 00:33:22,126 ♪ You can find me cryin' all of the time ♪ 644 00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:28,048 It was all very, very romantic. 645 00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:31,885 We were living in the Virgin Islands on the beach in tents. 646 00:33:31,885 --> 00:33:34,972 And it's just inevitable, it's gonna happen, 647 00:33:34,972 --> 00:33:38,976 the dynamics in a group when there are men and women. 648 00:33:39,268 --> 00:33:41,937 You see something in a band member, 649 00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:46,942 their talent and their sexiness, and there's a spark. 650 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:50,154 I know that it happened in the The Mamas & the Papas. 651 00:33:50,154 --> 00:33:53,907 I've seen it happen in almost any group that I can think of 652 00:33:53,907 --> 00:33:55,951 that have men and women in them. 653 00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:57,411 Jefferson Airplane, 654 00:33:57,411 --> 00:33:59,038 Fleetwood Mac. 655 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:00,831 We were so confined 656 00:34:00,831 --> 00:34:03,208 to the four of us living together all the time. 657 00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:04,668 We were always together. 658 00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:06,587 And when we were rehearsing, 659 00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:09,923 Denny and I under the table were playing footsie. 660 00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:14,636 And Denny was also a big flirt. 661 00:34:14,636 --> 00:34:19,600 He just wanted to take it to the maximum, you know. 662 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,769 He had a great sense of humor, 663 00:34:21,769 --> 00:34:24,688 that little look in his eye, you know. 664 00:34:25,189 --> 00:34:26,940 He was just so hot. 665 00:34:27,191 --> 00:34:29,610 ♪ Boys and girls ♪ 666 00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:35,115 ♪ You know they're birds of a feather ♪ 667 00:34:36,325 --> 00:34:40,954 ♪ Like two sides of a coin ♪ 668 00:34:40,954 --> 00:34:44,374 ♪ They are forever joined ♪ 669 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:49,338 PHILLIPS: On the cover of our first album I'm lying back in Denny's arms. 670 00:34:49,338 --> 00:34:51,006 This is before we got caught. 671 00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,675 Really, the first night that we were together 672 00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:56,929 we had all been sitting at the table and John and Cass, 673 00:34:56,929 --> 00:34:59,765 we looked over and they were asleep. 674 00:35:00,265 --> 00:35:03,185 And that's when Denny just got up 675 00:35:03,185 --> 00:35:06,730 and he walked over to the sliding glass door and off we went. 676 00:35:07,106 --> 00:35:10,275 I was raised in a very free atmosphere. 677 00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:14,238 To me, having an affair was not as serious 678 00:35:14,238 --> 00:35:16,949 as it was to the rest of them. 679 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:21,995 I had had an affair before Denny 680 00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:23,956 when John and I had first gotten married. 681 00:35:24,414 --> 00:35:28,418 So, it was something that John had already experienced with me, 682 00:35:28,418 --> 00:35:30,963 and that's when he wrote "Go Where You Wanna Go". 683 00:35:30,963 --> 00:35:35,259 John was really crushed and upset about it 684 00:35:35,259 --> 00:35:38,178 and so the lyric of "go where you want to go, 685 00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:39,721 do what you want to do, 686 00:35:39,721 --> 00:35:42,724 with whoever you want to do it with" bitch! 687 00:35:42,724 --> 00:35:44,101 [both chuckle] 688 00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:47,104 So, I mean, I was busy. 689 00:35:47,104 --> 00:35:49,398 I was a very busy girl. 690 00:35:49,398 --> 00:35:51,275 And I was having a lot of fun! [chuckling] 691 00:35:51,275 --> 00:35:52,734 I'm glad you said that and not me! 692 00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:54,027 [both laughs] 693 00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:57,823 ["Go Where You Wanna Go"] 694 00:36:03,412 --> 00:36:06,331 ♪ And you gotta go where you want to go ♪ 695 00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:08,584 ♪ Do what you want to do ♪ 696 00:36:08,584 --> 00:36:13,255 ♪ With whoever you want to do it with ♪ 697 00:36:13,255 --> 00:36:15,507 ♪ Go where you want to go ♪ 698 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,801 ♪ Do what you want to do ♪ 699 00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:22,264 ♪ With whoever you want to do it with ♪ 700 00:36:22,264 --> 00:36:26,268 ♪ You don't understand ♪ 701 00:36:26,268 --> 00:36:28,270 ♪ That a girl like me ♪ 702 00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:33,942 ♪ Can love just one man ♪ 703 00:36:36,612 --> 00:36:40,908 ♪ Three thousand miles ♪ 704 00:36:40,908 --> 00:36:44,328 ♪ That's how far you'll go ♪ 705 00:36:45,454 --> 00:36:48,790 ♪ And you said to me ♪ 706 00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:53,045 ♪ Please ♪ 707 00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:57,549 ♪ Don't follow ♪ 708 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:01,220 ♪ You gotta go where you want to go ♪ 709 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:03,472 ♪ Do what you want to do ♪ 710 00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:07,726 ♪ With whoever you want to do it with ♪ 711 00:37:08,018 --> 00:37:10,229 ♪ Go where you want to go ♪ 712 00:37:10,229 --> 00:37:12,397 ♪ Do what you want to do ♪ 713 00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:16,944 ♪ With whoever you want to do it ♪ 714 00:37:16,944 --> 00:37:20,656 ♪ You don't understand ♪ 715 00:37:20,656 --> 00:37:24,576 ♪ That a girl like me can love ♪ 716 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:29,831 ♪ Just one man ♪ 717 00:37:30,958 --> 00:37:35,128 ♪ You've been gone a week ♪ 718 00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,757 ♪ And I tried so hard ♪ 719 00:37:39,883 --> 00:37:43,804 ♪ Not to be the cryin' kind ♪ 720 00:37:44,346 --> 00:37:47,474 ♪ Not to be the girl ♪ 721 00:37:47,474 --> 00:37:52,479 ♪ You left behind ♪ 722 00:37:55,732 --> 00:37:59,111 [music continues] 723 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:15,794 ♪ Go where you want to go ♪ 724 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:18,046 ♪ Do what you want to do ♪ 725 00:38:18,255 --> 00:38:22,592 ♪ With whoever you want to do it ♪ 726 00:38:22,592 --> 00:38:25,095 ♪ Go where you want to go ♪ 727 00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:27,431 ♪ Do what you want to do ♪ 728 00:38:27,431 --> 00:38:32,185 ♪ With whoever you want to do it ♪ 729 00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:36,773 [applause] 730 00:38:37,441 --> 00:38:39,276 Oh, that is so touching! 731 00:38:39,276 --> 00:38:41,028 - Oh good, you like it. - I love it! 732 00:38:41,028 --> 00:38:43,030 - Oh, cool. - I love it. 733 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:44,406 I forgot what a great song that was! 734 00:38:44,406 --> 00:38:46,033 Yeah, right? 735 00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:47,576 ♪ One, two, three ♪ 736 00:38:47,576 --> 00:38:48,952 ♪ You're going to lose that girl ♪ 737 00:38:48,952 --> 00:38:51,288 ♪ (Yes, yes, you're gonna lose that girl) ♪ 738 00:38:51,288 --> 00:38:55,459 ♪ You're going to lose that girl ♪ 739 00:38:56,376 --> 00:38:58,628 PETTY: The 60s, right, it was really blessed. 740 00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:00,839 I mean all that stuff showed up at once. 741 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:02,591 Must have been meant that way. 742 00:39:02,591 --> 00:39:05,802 But it was a nice circle of really good artists, 743 00:39:05,802 --> 00:39:07,929 well meaning artists, thinking about 744 00:39:07,929 --> 00:39:11,016 how can I make a record as good as that one? 745 00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:12,976 Music happens at a particular moment in time 746 00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:16,146 and it changes everything going forward. 747 00:39:16,146 --> 00:39:19,316 ♪ You're going to lose that girl ♪ 748 00:39:21,443 --> 00:39:26,823 ADLER: I had ended up with an acetate of Pet Sounds 749 00:39:26,823 --> 00:39:29,618 and I was going to England 750 00:39:29,618 --> 00:39:32,120 to visit my friend Andrew Oldham, 751 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,956 who is a producer of The Rolling Stones. 752 00:39:35,665 --> 00:39:37,834 And Paul McCartney came by 753 00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:40,003 and I played them Pet Sounds 754 00:39:40,003 --> 00:39:43,131 and they were listening to everything that Brian was doing 755 00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:47,386 and thinking about how they could use certain things 756 00:39:47,386 --> 00:39:49,638 that he was doing on Pet Sounds. 757 00:39:50,305 --> 00:39:52,599 Out of that comes Sgt. Pepper. 758 00:39:53,308 --> 00:39:55,727 STARR: There was a lot of stuff going on. 759 00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:58,271 All those records you bought, those vinyl -- we bought, 760 00:39:58,271 --> 00:39:59,981 you weren't even born -- 761 00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:03,151 were just the best. 'Cause everyone was at it. 762 00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:05,654 I have two favorite records, as a lot of people do, 763 00:40:05,654 --> 00:40:08,657 and one of them is Pet Sounds and the other is Sgt. Pepper. 764 00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:10,325 You can listen to the records 765 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:14,538 and you can see the cross-pollinization. 766 00:40:14,538 --> 00:40:16,164 It was a magical thing. 767 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:19,501 Any time something good happens, 768 00:40:19,501 --> 00:40:21,420 it's gonna show up other places. 769 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:23,296 It's gonna be mirrored back. 770 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,174 Well, that was just like cross-pollinization. 771 00:40:26,174 --> 00:40:28,885 I mean The Beatles also grew up listening to skiffle music. 772 00:40:29,386 --> 00:40:33,098 George admits "The Bells of Rhymney" 773 00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:35,809 and "If I Needed Someone" are very similar. 774 00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:40,480 I think he sent Roger a little card about it 775 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,023 that he still has, you know. 776 00:40:42,023 --> 00:40:44,734 Someone would have written most of a song, say, 777 00:40:44,734 --> 00:40:46,695 you know, Paul or John, and they play it 778 00:40:46,695 --> 00:40:49,364 and when it felt good okay, that's how we do it. 779 00:40:49,364 --> 00:40:51,366 We would just jam. We were buskers. 780 00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:53,869 The riff was... ["The Bells of Rhymney"] 781 00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:00,584 ♪ Oh, what will you give me? ♪ 782 00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:05,714 ♪ Say the sad bells of Rhomey ♪ 783 00:41:05,714 --> 00:41:08,633 Anyway, so George liked that riff and he wrote: 784 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:11,470 ♪ If I needed someone to love ♪ 785 00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:12,387 based on that. 786 00:41:12,387 --> 00:41:15,015 He made a tape of it and gave it to Derek Taylor in London. 787 00:41:15,015 --> 00:41:18,059 Derek came over to my house, he said George wants you to know 788 00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:21,771 that he wrote this song based on your riff in "Bells of Rhymney". 789 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:25,192 When you hear beautiful music it gets inside you 790 00:41:25,192 --> 00:41:27,736 and sometimes you want to do a little something like that 791 00:41:27,736 --> 00:41:29,196 maybe, but your way. 792 00:41:29,196 --> 00:41:32,282 Or wow, he did that so maybe I could maybe -- 793 00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:34,034 and it's an open-ended thing. 794 00:41:34,034 --> 00:41:37,329 But that's fair, right? That's -- that's fair. 795 00:41:37,329 --> 00:41:40,415 But, you know, outright theft isn't that good but you... 796 00:41:40,415 --> 00:41:42,042 [chuckles] 797 00:41:42,042 --> 00:41:44,461 But in that sense I thought it was really nice. 798 00:41:45,253 --> 00:41:48,423 [♪♪♪] 799 00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:51,384 BECK: You have the heavy -- 800 00:41:51,384 --> 00:41:52,594 you're a little bit on the heavier side. 801 00:41:52,594 --> 00:41:54,596 You got the Pet Sounds and the Sgt. Pepper's over there -- 802 00:41:54,596 --> 00:41:56,306 I have some very good shit over here, yeah! 803 00:41:56,306 --> 00:41:57,724 I'll stick with this. 804 00:41:57,724 --> 00:42:01,102 BECK: Yeah. And these records come 805 00:42:01,102 --> 00:42:03,271 all of a sudden like an avalanche. 806 00:42:03,271 --> 00:42:04,397 DYLAN: Mm hmm. 807 00:42:04,397 --> 00:42:06,858 And there's nothing like them before. 808 00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:09,611 SPEKTOR: It used to be that every time any of these came out 809 00:42:09,611 --> 00:42:13,114 it was like this giant event 810 00:42:13,114 --> 00:42:16,451 and people would talk about it and gather together 811 00:42:16,451 --> 00:42:19,996 and put on a record in their room and listen to the record. 812 00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:21,122 - It's so cool. - For days. 813 00:42:21,122 --> 00:42:22,123 For days! 814 00:42:22,123 --> 00:42:27,087 And they'd be deciphering, you know, why is he wearing this cape, 815 00:42:27,087 --> 00:42:29,005 poncho, from the Renaissance Fair. 816 00:42:29,005 --> 00:42:30,423 [everyone chuckles] 817 00:42:30,423 --> 00:42:33,510 Yeah, one of my favorite things about all these bands 818 00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:36,513 is that they're, in a sense, they're sort of super groups, 819 00:42:36,513 --> 00:42:38,431 you know. They have multiple lead singers. 820 00:42:38,431 --> 00:42:40,433 They have multiple songwriters. 821 00:42:40,433 --> 00:42:44,104 But I think the beauty of all this is how they came together 822 00:42:44,104 --> 00:42:48,483 and brought the best of that they had for something. 823 00:42:48,817 --> 00:42:51,611 Yeah! I mean just listen to Buffalo Springfield 824 00:42:51,611 --> 00:42:53,613 - and all those bands. - POWER: Yeah. 825 00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:55,699 DYLAN: You just get something completely remarkable and unique 826 00:42:55,699 --> 00:42:57,158 - when it's -- - BECK: Oh, yeah -- 827 00:42:57,158 --> 00:42:59,035 DYLAN: a combination, a collaborative, that you can't -- 828 00:42:59,035 --> 00:43:01,746 you just can't do, with all your own DNA. 829 00:43:01,746 --> 00:43:02,831 You just can't. 830 00:43:02,831 --> 00:43:03,832 [audience cheering] 831 00:43:03,832 --> 00:43:05,584 DICK CLARK: Gentlemen! Gentlemen! 832 00:43:05,584 --> 00:43:07,460 Nice to see you all! 833 00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:08,795 Welcome. 834 00:43:08,795 --> 00:43:11,256 Would you be kind enough to act as spokesman, 835 00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:13,508 introduce yourself, and then let us know who else is involved. 836 00:43:13,508 --> 00:43:15,594 Ah, my name is Neil Young. 837 00:43:15,594 --> 00:43:16,678 All right, Neil. How do you do? 838 00:43:16,678 --> 00:43:18,346 I'm the lead guitar player. How do you do? 839 00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:20,140 This is Richie Furay. 840 00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:21,975 CLARK: Hello, Richie! Nice to see you 841 00:43:21,975 --> 00:43:24,477 - This is Steve Stills. - Hello, Steve. Nice to see you. 842 00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:27,188 How does three Canadians and a couple of other fellows 843 00:43:27,188 --> 00:43:29,441 all fall into together? How did that happen? 844 00:43:29,441 --> 00:43:32,819 Well, we, ah, Bruce and I came to Los Angeles 845 00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:36,031 in an old hearse to try to, you know, make stars, you know. 846 00:43:36,031 --> 00:43:37,407 We're gonna be stars. 847 00:43:37,407 --> 00:43:42,120 So, ah, we were just about to leave and I saw him in a van 848 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,456 going the other way on Sunset and he stopped and he -- 849 00:43:44,456 --> 00:43:47,667 and we stopped and we all stopped and then we started. 850 00:43:47,667 --> 00:43:50,837 ["For What It's Worth"] 851 00:43:53,423 --> 00:43:56,343 ♪ There's something happening here ♪ 852 00:43:56,343 --> 00:43:57,218 [audience cheers] 853 00:43:57,218 --> 00:44:00,930 ♪ What it is ain't exactly clear ♪ 854 00:44:02,098 --> 00:44:06,144 ♪ There's a man with a gun over there ♪ 855 00:44:06,895 --> 00:44:10,607 ♪ Telling me I got to beware ♪ 856 00:44:11,566 --> 00:44:14,944 ♪ I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound ♪ 857 00:44:14,944 --> 00:44:18,531 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 858 00:44:22,285 --> 00:44:25,288 ["Mr. Soul"] 859 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:36,216 ♪ Oh, hello Mr. Soul, I dropped by to pick up a reason ♪ 860 00:44:36,216 --> 00:44:37,926 ♪ For the thought that I caught ♪ 861 00:44:37,926 --> 00:44:41,471 ♪ That my head is the event of the season ♪ 862 00:44:43,306 --> 00:44:45,392 ♪ I'll cop out to the change ♪ 863 00:44:45,392 --> 00:44:48,937 ♪ But a stranger is putting the tease on ♪ 864 00:44:51,189 --> 00:44:54,109 [music continues] 865 00:44:55,276 --> 00:44:57,821 STILLS: We were in Fort William, Ontario, 866 00:44:57,821 --> 00:45:00,532 and the owner of the club said these guys that we, 867 00:45:00,532 --> 00:45:03,284 you know, employ regularly are gonna come in 868 00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:08,373 and do a set in between you guys and the main act. 869 00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:11,835 It was Neil with a little trio called The Squires. 870 00:45:12,585 --> 00:45:14,838 And he was doing exactly what I wanted to do, 871 00:45:14,838 --> 00:45:17,882 which was to play folk songs on electric guitar. 872 00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:20,969 And we hung out together for a week. 873 00:45:20,969 --> 00:45:23,930 We talked and dreamt and fantasized 874 00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:25,890 about what we wanted to do. 875 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:27,767 And we were inseparable. 876 00:45:28,017 --> 00:45:31,354 Buffalo Springfield, you know, that was a big one. 877 00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:35,358 I saw them back in '67 or '68. 878 00:45:35,358 --> 00:45:39,154 They came to Gainesville and played with The Beach Boys. 879 00:45:39,154 --> 00:45:41,364 You know, I never got over it! [chuckling] 880 00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:44,617 It was a really mind-blowing show, you know. 881 00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:48,246 It was like that's as good as it's supposed to be, you know. 882 00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:49,414 It was maybe better. 883 00:45:49,497 --> 00:45:51,708 Buffalo Springfield had like, you know, 884 00:45:51,708 --> 00:45:58,131 just like legions of the girls that, you know, I wanted, 885 00:45:58,131 --> 00:46:00,258 you know, were like just looking that way. 886 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:02,469 And I thought, you know, this is -- 887 00:46:02,469 --> 00:46:04,137 this must be a pretty good band. 888 00:46:04,137 --> 00:46:07,140 - We went to L.A. with Cream. - Yeah. 889 00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:09,225 And I hadn't been there more than about an hour 890 00:46:09,225 --> 00:46:11,394 and there was a knock at the door and then Stephen Stills 891 00:46:11,394 --> 00:46:13,480 was there with a guitar, you know. 892 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,647 He just came in. 893 00:46:14,647 --> 00:46:16,357 I took his guitar out of the case and said 894 00:46:16,357 --> 00:46:17,942 "I hear you like this". 895 00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:20,320 - He played you "Bluebird"? - He played "Bluebird". 896 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,448 ["Bluebird"] 897 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,959 They'd end with this really long "Bluebird", like, you know, 898 00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:38,379 trading guitars for -- 'til it just got really intense. 899 00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:39,547 It was great. 900 00:46:39,547 --> 00:46:43,676 The Byrds picked up the Buffalo Springfield for an opening act 901 00:46:43,676 --> 00:46:47,055 and it lasted until David Crosby saw us for the first time 902 00:46:47,055 --> 00:46:49,557 and he says "Get them out of there. They're too good." 903 00:46:49,557 --> 00:46:52,811 I remember thinking when we did it this is a bad idea. 904 00:46:53,478 --> 00:46:56,981 'Cause they're - they're really amazingly good. 905 00:46:56,981 --> 00:46:59,776 And we had hits, you know, so we could follow them, 906 00:46:59,776 --> 00:47:02,153 but they were awfully goddamn good. 907 00:47:02,153 --> 00:47:05,406 STILLS: What was good about it is that we had a wealth of material. 908 00:47:05,406 --> 00:47:08,952 What was bad about it, it was in really divergent directions. 909 00:47:08,952 --> 00:47:11,287 The first song we had, "Clancy", 910 00:47:11,287 --> 00:47:14,624 with the Buffalo Springfield, we did the first take 911 00:47:14,624 --> 00:47:17,210 and the voice comes back from the booth and said, 912 00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:20,880 "It's too long. Play it faster." 913 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,881 Mm hmm. 914 00:47:21,881 --> 00:47:24,968 And that's when Neil and I looked at each other and said 915 00:47:24,968 --> 00:47:27,637 oh my God, we've gotta learn how to do this ourselves. 916 00:47:27,637 --> 00:47:31,975 There's Neil and I'm listening to something that he's doing. 917 00:47:31,975 --> 00:47:34,435 And that's the old original console. 918 00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:35,895 This was only 8-track. 919 00:47:35,895 --> 00:47:41,025 That's why it's an old Altec console with like big knobs. 920 00:47:41,484 --> 00:47:44,863 And right after that, I think we got an MCI or something 921 00:47:44,863 --> 00:47:49,409 and went to 16, which to me was all we ever needed. 922 00:47:49,409 --> 00:47:52,120 But this is like after we obviously had learned 923 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,122 to make them ourselves. I see, no... 924 00:47:54,122 --> 00:47:57,125 That's probably the engineer that was hired for the session. 925 00:47:57,125 --> 00:47:58,293 DYLAN: He's gotta sit down now? 926 00:47:58,293 --> 00:48:00,962 Just go sit down there. [laughs] 927 00:48:00,962 --> 00:48:04,007 ["Questions"] 928 00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:12,807 ♪ Where are we going love? ♪ 929 00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:16,352 ♪ What are you feelin'? ♪ 930 00:48:17,812 --> 00:48:21,107 ♪ Now that I've caught my love ♪ 931 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:24,652 ♪ My head is reelin' ♪ 932 00:48:24,903 --> 00:48:29,324 ♪ With the questions of a thousand dreams ♪ 933 00:48:29,741 --> 00:48:33,620 ♪ What she's doing what she's seen ♪ 934 00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:37,415 ♪ Now, come on lover talk to me ♪ 935 00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:39,000 DYLAN: Should we talk about "Questions"? 936 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,629 STILLS: Well, to start with I had this what -- you know those magical days 937 00:48:42,629 --> 00:48:44,881 where a lot of stuff happens? 938 00:48:44,881 --> 00:48:48,760 I met Judy Collins and Eric Clapton on the same night. 939 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,721 I went to the Whisky to see Eric. 940 00:48:52,013 --> 00:48:55,767 And so I'm flirting with Judy, trying to listen to Eric, 941 00:48:55,767 --> 00:48:59,312 who's blowing my mind, and so I'm overwhelmed. 942 00:48:59,312 --> 00:49:03,316 And then later on, Crosby had brought Eric to my little house 943 00:49:03,316 --> 00:49:04,943 in Laurel Canyon. 944 00:49:04,943 --> 00:49:10,573 And the changes to "Questions" were derived 945 00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:15,328 from a song of Judy's called "Since You've Asked". 946 00:49:15,328 --> 00:49:18,915 And I just took this first three chords 947 00:49:18,915 --> 00:49:22,710 and changed the cadence and everything. 948 00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:26,297 And then it evolved into the song. 949 00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:30,468 And I think I was playing it for him as I was trying to write it, 950 00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:34,347 and it later ended up on a Buffalo Springfield album. 951 00:49:34,347 --> 00:49:36,557 I haven't listened to that stuff for a long time, 952 00:49:36,557 --> 00:49:38,351 you know, the west coast music, at all and so -- 953 00:49:38,351 --> 00:49:39,310 The original version you -- 954 00:49:39,310 --> 00:49:41,562 No, I haven't heard the original version of "Questions" 955 00:49:41,562 --> 00:49:43,022 for a long, long, long time. 956 00:49:43,022 --> 00:49:44,816 And it really took me back. 957 00:49:45,316 --> 00:49:48,486 ♪ What was it made you run ♪ 958 00:49:49,278 --> 00:49:52,949 ♪ Tryin' to get around The questions... ♪ 959 00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:56,119 CLAPTON: It took me back to a song that I had done, too, 960 00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:57,912 around the same time. 961 00:49:57,912 --> 00:50:03,126 Ah, a little later, actually, called "Let It Rain". 962 00:50:03,584 --> 00:50:06,879 And it was one of the first songs I'd ever written. 963 00:50:06,879 --> 00:50:10,425 And it -- and there, you know, there's that kind of -- 964 00:50:10,425 --> 00:50:12,301 I was influenced by it, I think. 965 00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,345 Yeah, I thought that we talked about having, hopefully, 966 00:50:14,345 --> 00:50:16,139 you play on that song with Stephen... 967 00:50:16,139 --> 00:50:17,306 Yeah. 968 00:50:17,306 --> 00:50:20,143 I wondered if that was gonna be... it's not gonna bother you 969 00:50:20,143 --> 00:50:22,812 that there's the -- there's a similar feel or... 970 00:50:22,812 --> 00:50:24,564 Well I didn't -- I must have copped it 971 00:50:24,564 --> 00:50:25,815 and not even known, you know. 972 00:50:25,815 --> 00:50:27,316 We can edit that part right out. 973 00:50:27,316 --> 00:50:28,818 Well, no, no! I think, no, 974 00:50:28,818 --> 00:50:30,319 that's very important for people to know. 975 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:31,320 Well Stephen owes you one. 976 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,615 ♪ Come on lover, talk to me ♪ 977 00:50:35,491 --> 00:50:38,911 [music continues] 978 00:51:07,065 --> 00:51:08,357 Sorry I got lost. 979 00:51:08,357 --> 00:51:10,026 Whatever happened in the solo section was great. 980 00:51:10,026 --> 00:51:11,486 - Cool. - With you and Eric together. 981 00:51:11,486 --> 00:51:14,238 SLATER: Yeah. When Eric's playing in the top of the second solo, 982 00:51:14,238 --> 00:51:16,824 you know, he's playing in the higher register 983 00:51:16,824 --> 00:51:18,910 and I think anything in the lower register 984 00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:20,536 would be cool as a complement. 985 00:51:20,536 --> 00:51:24,332 [guitar solo] 986 00:51:29,378 --> 00:51:32,381 ♪ Where are we going love? ♪ 987 00:51:33,174 --> 00:51:37,428 Eric was very meticulous about reminding me back then, 988 00:51:37,428 --> 00:51:41,432 he said (in British accent) You know, when you're doing this on stage, 989 00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:43,434 you must take turns. 990 00:51:43,434 --> 00:51:46,437 [guitar solo] 991 00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:48,231 Much like schoolyard, you know. 992 00:51:48,689 --> 00:51:49,982 Gentlemanly. 993 00:51:49,982 --> 00:51:53,569 [guitar solo in "Questions"] 994 00:52:00,868 --> 00:52:05,456 [inaudible] 995 00:52:07,125 --> 00:52:10,378 CLAPTON: I had got an invite to go and watch 996 00:52:10,378 --> 00:52:14,674 Buffalo Springfield rehearsing in a house in Laurel Canyon. 997 00:52:14,674 --> 00:52:18,427 I had met this girl called Mary Hughes who was 998 00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:21,848 the kind of beauty queen of the Strip at that time. 999 00:52:21,848 --> 00:52:24,475 Jeff Beck was dating her and Keith Moon was dating her 1000 00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:28,187 and I somehow managed to get into the equation. 1001 00:52:28,187 --> 00:52:32,400 And I'm with this beautiful girl and there's joints being passed around 1002 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,693 and they start to play. 1003 00:52:33,693 --> 00:52:36,821 And they played at a level where it wasn't too loud for everybody 1004 00:52:36,821 --> 00:52:42,451 and they were rehearsing a set, I think, to play for a show. 1005 00:52:42,451 --> 00:52:44,412 And then there's a knock at the door. 1006 00:52:45,037 --> 00:52:48,583 And someone goes to answer and there's an immediate vibe 1007 00:52:48,583 --> 00:52:51,586 in the room of that something's wrong, you know. 1008 00:52:52,295 --> 00:52:56,048 And they open the door and there's a policeman standing there. 1009 00:52:56,048 --> 00:52:58,759 And there's a squad car in the background. 1010 00:52:58,759 --> 00:53:02,221 And he says, "You'll have to keep it down. 1011 00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:05,391 We've had some complaints about the noise. 1012 00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:07,101 [sniffs] What's that?" 1013 00:53:07,101 --> 00:53:09,520 And next thing you know, they're in the room. 1014 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,315 And I had nothing -- I had just put down a joint. 1015 00:53:12,315 --> 00:53:13,399 I had nothing in my hands, 1016 00:53:13,399 --> 00:53:17,153 but, ah, I was handcuffed to somebody. 1017 00:53:17,153 --> 00:53:22,325 So, we were all taken to L.A. County Jail. 1018 00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:26,162 Meanwhile, it was like where's -- what happened to Stephen? 1019 00:53:26,162 --> 00:53:29,457 Stephen, when he realized who was at the front door... 1020 00:53:29,457 --> 00:53:30,374 Yeah! 1021 00:53:30,374 --> 00:53:34,128 Jumped out the bathroom window and ran off. 1022 00:53:34,128 --> 00:53:36,130 There's a party that we heard about, too, your -- 1023 00:53:36,130 --> 00:53:38,216 was it your house that had a party in the Canyon? 1024 00:53:38,216 --> 00:53:39,634 Is that the same party you mentioned? 1025 00:53:39,634 --> 00:53:41,677 What? Disastrous. 1026 00:53:41,677 --> 00:53:44,305 What I heard was you were there, Eric was there, 1027 00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:46,474 Neil was there, and so were the police. 1028 00:53:46,474 --> 00:53:48,309 - I'd say yeah! - That sound right? 1029 00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:51,479 Neil and I were sitting in a bedroom in the back 1030 00:53:51,479 --> 00:53:53,314 and we here this [grumbles sternly]. 1031 00:53:53,314 --> 00:53:56,984 And I said go check that. 1032 00:53:56,984 --> 00:53:59,487 I'm gonna go next door and call lawyers! 1033 00:53:59,487 --> 00:54:01,405 And I book it out the back. 1034 00:54:01,405 --> 00:54:04,450 So, of course, that blew up into ruining my reputation. 1035 00:54:04,450 --> 00:54:06,577 Oh, he was the guy that booked, you know. 1036 00:54:06,577 --> 00:54:10,915 And, ah, and I went next door and... 1037 00:54:10,915 --> 00:54:12,041 totally reprehensible. 1038 00:54:12,041 --> 00:54:14,627 I should have manned up and -- and it wasn't. 1039 00:54:14,627 --> 00:54:18,422 I've never lived that down and felt awful about it ever since. 1040 00:54:18,422 --> 00:54:21,050 Neil got really aggressive and was out the door 1041 00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:23,344 and he was gonna go chase the police away. 1042 00:54:23,344 --> 00:54:27,098 'Cause he's Canadian and I guess in Canada you can do that -- 1043 00:54:29,350 --> 00:54:32,770 PETTY: It was really exciting to get to Los Angeles 1044 00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:34,563 coming from Gainesville, Florida. 1045 00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:37,483 And in my mind, it was the weather and the girls 1046 00:54:37,483 --> 00:54:41,904 and the surfing and the cars and it was a young mentality. 1047 00:54:41,904 --> 00:54:45,199 [♪♪♪] 1048 00:54:51,455 --> 00:54:56,585 This is kind of where people that really were big dreamers 1049 00:54:56,585 --> 00:55:00,131 went to because that's kind of allowed here. 1050 00:55:00,131 --> 00:55:02,466 There are people that believe that 1051 00:55:02,466 --> 00:55:06,929 it might be possible to do something that's not ordinary. 1052 00:55:06,929 --> 00:55:10,141 The first thing I remember going down Sunset Boulevard 1053 00:55:10,141 --> 00:55:12,810 looking out the car at the all the record companies, you know. 1054 00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:17,940 In those days it was MGM, you know, Capitol, you know, 1055 00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:20,526 all these labels that aren't there anymore. 1056 00:55:20,526 --> 00:55:24,989 It was true. I got out there and man, these recording studios 1057 00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:30,703 are all spotless and engineers are really remarkably good. 1058 00:55:30,703 --> 00:55:33,998 This is where Phil Spector and Brian Wilson were working. 1059 00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:36,876 People started showing up here trying to work with the engineers 1060 00:55:36,876 --> 00:55:39,170 they worked with and the studios that they worked in 1061 00:55:39,170 --> 00:55:42,131 to make things sound... fat. 1062 00:55:42,131 --> 00:55:44,091 In America it's very, very different. 1063 00:55:44,091 --> 00:55:46,135 Abbey Road was the only place that, basically, 1064 00:55:46,135 --> 00:55:47,470 we ever recorded, right. 1065 00:55:47,470 --> 00:55:51,349 There it was almost like, ah, almost like the BBC. 1066 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:54,060 All the engineers had these white overalls on. 1067 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:55,770 And, you know, if you wanted to bring the bass up 1068 00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:58,481 you had to go to the producer who then went to the engineer 1069 00:55:58,481 --> 00:55:59,899 who then brought the bass up. 1070 00:55:59,899 --> 00:56:02,777 You were secondary somehow to these people in white coats 1071 00:56:02,777 --> 00:56:05,154 that were really making the music. 1072 00:56:05,154 --> 00:56:07,490 STARR: They had all these like professors guys. 1073 00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:09,450 You know, scientists upstairs. 1074 00:56:09,450 --> 00:56:11,077 We were in the studio. 1075 00:56:11,077 --> 00:56:12,787 It's like an old 40s movie. 1076 00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:14,830 Oh, what's that you want? You want to play? 1077 00:56:14,830 --> 00:56:17,166 Mm, let me see what I can do. 1078 00:56:17,166 --> 00:56:21,003 Very different here. Very much looser, much better. 1079 00:56:21,253 --> 00:56:24,048 "Good Vibrations" was recorded in four studios, 1080 00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:25,174 four different studios. 1081 00:56:25,174 --> 00:56:26,801 Well, each studio is different, you know? 1082 00:56:26,801 --> 00:56:29,553 Like you can't -- not any one studio's the same. 1083 00:56:29,553 --> 00:56:32,014 Western was good for the, ah, instrumentation, 1084 00:56:32,014 --> 00:56:34,058 like the bass, the drums, guitars. 1085 00:56:34,058 --> 00:56:36,310 Sunset Sound, I liked their tech piano. 1086 00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:38,979 I used that on the bridge to "Good Vibrations." 1087 00:56:38,979 --> 00:56:40,981 Gold Star was good for just the echo. 1088 00:56:40,981 --> 00:56:42,400 The echo of Gold Star was good. 1089 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,902 And RCA Victor, that's where we did the vocal. 1090 00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:46,862 There were so many studios. 1091 00:56:46,862 --> 00:56:50,991 They had that great RCA studio on Sunset and Ivar. 1092 00:56:50,991 --> 00:56:52,910 It was a fantastic place. 1093 00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,495 Columbia Studios. 1094 00:56:54,495 --> 00:56:56,622 And Western, you know, 1095 00:56:56,622 --> 00:56:59,417 United Western at times it was called. 1096 00:56:59,417 --> 00:57:00,626 It's still there. 1097 00:57:01,627 --> 00:57:03,295 DYLAN: Have you -- have you recorded here? 1098 00:57:03,295 --> 00:57:04,964 NORAH JONES: No, I've never been here. 1099 00:57:06,257 --> 00:57:08,926 Yeah, this is where Brian Wilson, Mamas & the Papas, 1100 00:57:08,926 --> 00:57:10,761 and Buffalo Springfield recorded. 1101 00:57:10,761 --> 00:57:11,887 JONES: Yeah? 1102 00:57:12,638 --> 00:57:14,807 As well as you can see the evolution of Don Was. 1103 00:57:14,807 --> 00:57:16,308 Yeah, there he is! 1104 00:57:16,308 --> 00:57:18,102 And let's go back further. 1105 00:57:18,102 --> 00:57:19,603 And there's some more of him over there. 1106 00:57:19,603 --> 00:57:21,063 Yeah, you can here see this -- 1107 00:57:21,063 --> 00:57:22,231 There's some more him down there - 1108 00:57:22,231 --> 00:57:23,774 ...before he really figured it out. 1109 00:57:24,066 --> 00:57:26,068 [Jones laughs] 1110 00:57:26,652 --> 00:57:28,070 SLATER: What about these guys? 1111 00:57:28,279 --> 00:57:29,822 Mm, not really familiar. 1112 00:57:30,156 --> 00:57:32,032 [everyone chuckles] 1113 00:57:33,492 --> 00:57:34,827 - That's okay. - It's okay. 1114 00:57:34,827 --> 00:57:37,663 - This is all right here, huh? - Yeah. It's cool. 1115 00:57:37,663 --> 00:57:39,373 Yeah, I want to record a song by The Association. 1116 00:57:39,373 --> 00:57:40,416 Yeah! 1117 00:57:40,416 --> 00:57:42,042 They're not really marked who's doing what, 1118 00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:43,586 but that doesn't really matter. 1119 00:57:44,503 --> 00:57:47,631 [guitar strumming "Never My Love"] 1120 00:57:49,341 --> 00:57:53,804 ♪ You ask me if there'll come a time ♪ 1121 00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:57,308 ♪ When I'll grow tired of you ♪ 1122 00:57:58,392 --> 00:58:00,686 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1123 00:58:03,355 --> 00:58:05,357 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1124 00:58:12,031 --> 00:58:13,824 Let's do it. 1125 00:58:13,824 --> 00:58:16,911 [band plays "Never My Love"] 1126 00:58:26,003 --> 00:58:31,175 ♪ Well, you ask me if there'll come a time ♪ 1127 00:58:31,175 --> 00:58:34,762 ♪ When I'll grow tired of you ♪ 1128 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,974 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1129 00:58:41,977 --> 00:58:44,271 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1130 00:58:47,483 --> 00:58:52,196 ♪ You wonder if this heart of mine ♪ 1131 00:58:52,655 --> 00:58:56,158 ♪ Will lose its desire for you ♪ 1132 00:58:57,993 --> 00:59:00,079 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1133 00:59:03,415 --> 00:59:05,584 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1134 00:59:08,712 --> 00:59:12,466 ♪ Now, how can you think love will end ♪ 1135 00:59:12,466 --> 00:59:16,595 ♪ When I've asked you to spend your whole life ♪ 1136 00:59:19,974 --> 00:59:22,059 ♪ With me ♪ 1137 00:59:22,268 --> 00:59:25,563 ♪ (With me, with me) ♪ 1138 00:59:27,481 --> 00:59:31,986 ♪ Buh-buh buh, Buh-buh ♪ 1139 00:59:32,736 --> 00:59:36,115 ♪ Buh-buh-buh ♪ 1140 00:59:38,117 --> 00:59:40,327 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1141 00:59:43,414 --> 00:59:45,666 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1142 00:59:48,711 --> 00:59:52,339 ♪ What makes you think love will end ♪ 1143 00:59:52,339 --> 00:59:56,385 ♪ When I've asked you to spend your whole life ♪ 1144 01:00:00,097 --> 01:00:01,765 ♪ With me ♪ 1145 01:00:02,349 --> 01:00:05,769 ♪ With me ♪ 1146 01:00:07,396 --> 01:00:11,817 ♪ Buh-buh, buh-buh, Buh-buh ♪ 1147 01:00:12,776 --> 01:00:15,821 ♪ Buh-buh, buh-buh ♪ 1148 01:00:18,073 --> 01:00:20,200 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1149 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:25,664 ♪ Never my love ♪ 1150 01:00:26,498 --> 01:00:29,084 [audience cheers] 1151 01:00:34,882 --> 01:00:36,842 I was driving down Sunset and I turned on 1152 01:00:36,842 --> 01:00:39,136 one of those roads that leads up into the hills 1153 01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:41,347 and I stopped at this place that overlooks the whole city. 1154 01:00:41,347 --> 01:00:42,931 It was fantastic. 1155 01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:45,100 I suddenly felt exhilarated there. 1156 01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:48,145 I was really moved by the geometry of the place, 1157 01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:49,313 its harmony. 1158 01:00:50,439 --> 01:00:52,149 It's a fabulous city. 1159 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,319 To think some people claim it's an ugly city 1160 01:00:55,319 --> 01:00:57,905 when it's really pure poetry, it just kills me. 1161 01:00:58,364 --> 01:01:02,159 I wanted to build something right then, create something. 1162 01:01:07,956 --> 01:01:09,166 McGUlNN: I used to love L.A. 1163 01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:11,251 when I was first there in the early 60s. 1164 01:01:11,251 --> 01:01:14,046 You can drive around and smell the orange blossoms, you know. 1165 01:01:14,046 --> 01:01:15,589 It was really cool. 1166 01:01:16,006 --> 01:01:17,841 We moved into Laurel Canyon 1167 01:01:17,841 --> 01:01:19,593 and we just loved the scene there. 1168 01:01:19,593 --> 01:01:21,637 And a lot of people, a lot of folk singers would come around 1169 01:01:21,637 --> 01:01:24,181 and play and we'd, you know, get high and stuff. 1170 01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:25,683 It was fan -- a fun time. 1171 01:01:25,683 --> 01:01:28,727 Just driving up those canyons and people pointing out houses 1172 01:01:28,727 --> 01:01:30,354 of famous people that lived there, 1173 01:01:30,354 --> 01:01:33,023 Houdini and Tom Mix and Zappa 1174 01:01:33,023 --> 01:01:35,484 and, you know, it was a fabulous time. 1175 01:01:35,484 --> 01:01:38,987 ["Somebody Groovy" by The Mamas & the Papas] 1176 01:01:42,574 --> 01:01:46,161 ♪ I need somebody groovy ♪ 1177 01:01:46,495 --> 01:01:50,457 ♪ Someone who's able to move me, yeah ♪ 1178 01:01:51,625 --> 01:01:54,503 PETTY: Any time you drove by the Canyon Store 1179 01:01:54,503 --> 01:01:56,255 you saw some pop hero. 1180 01:01:57,005 --> 01:02:00,217 [chuckles] There's David Crosby, you know! 1181 01:02:00,217 --> 01:02:02,511 BROWNE: There were people from everywhere in Laurel Canyon. 1182 01:02:02,511 --> 01:02:04,346 In '66 it was teeming. 1183 01:02:04,346 --> 01:02:05,681 And you might see anybody. 1184 01:02:05,681 --> 01:02:08,225 Like I one time saw Crosby blow through there 1185 01:02:08,225 --> 01:02:09,935 and scoop up these two girls. 1186 01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:11,895 And he was wearing a cape, by the way. 1187 01:02:11,895 --> 01:02:13,981 [chuckles] [swooping noise] 1188 01:02:13,981 --> 01:02:16,150 Disappeared, you know, into the night! 1189 01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:18,694 Frank Zappa lived across the street. 1190 01:02:18,694 --> 01:02:20,904 And he once stood in the middle of the street 1191 01:02:20,904 --> 01:02:24,116 reading me the lyrics of "Who Are The Brain Police", 1192 01:02:24,116 --> 01:02:26,994 like Alan Ginsberg. It was... 1193 01:02:27,661 --> 01:02:29,913 And I kept going whoa! Whoa! Whoa! 1194 01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:35,961 And then I heard Frank Zappa do an orchestration 1195 01:02:35,961 --> 01:02:38,714 on a track without the yelling over it. 1196 01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:42,009 And it was -- it was otherworldly. 1197 01:02:42,009 --> 01:02:44,511 It was really -- really incredible. 1198 01:02:44,511 --> 01:02:47,097 There's not the kind of scene there is in New York 1199 01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:49,516 and the east coast cities where there's a club you go to. 1200 01:02:49,516 --> 01:02:52,519 We would go over to people's houses 1201 01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,689 and yak it up for hours and hours! 1202 01:02:55,689 --> 01:02:57,274 And play music, you know. 1203 01:02:57,274 --> 01:02:59,109 All kinds of music all the time. 1204 01:02:59,318 --> 01:03:02,529 [Stills playing guitar] 1205 01:03:11,455 --> 01:03:13,499 McGUlNN: I wrote a song with Brian Wilson one time. 1206 01:03:13,499 --> 01:03:15,000 Brian came over to my house. 1207 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,669 I said wow. He had never come over before. 1208 01:03:17,669 --> 01:03:20,422 And he came up and he said, "You got any speed?" 1209 01:03:20,422 --> 01:03:22,633 And I said, "I think so." I went to the medicine cabinet 1210 01:03:22,633 --> 01:03:25,093 and I gave him two Biphetamine 20s. 1211 01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:26,804 He -- he wanted two. 1212 01:03:26,804 --> 01:03:29,723 And this is about, mm, 4:00 in the afternoon. 1213 01:03:29,723 --> 01:03:31,600 We started playing a song. It was like a... 1214 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,477 [plays guitar] 1215 01:03:33,477 --> 01:03:35,562 Okay, we're playing that and we're playing that and playing that. 1216 01:03:35,562 --> 01:03:38,649 And it finally gets dark and I go to bed. 1217 01:03:38,649 --> 01:03:41,109 And, you know, seven, eight hours later I got up 1218 01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:43,821 and Brian is still at the piano going... 1219 01:03:43,821 --> 01:03:45,989 - Still playing the same figure? - Yeah, same song, yeah! 1220 01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:47,825 - Really fast. - It's only got one verse. 1221 01:03:47,825 --> 01:03:50,369 And they finally released it, called it "Ding Dang". 1222 01:03:50,369 --> 01:03:52,454 And whenever I see Brian these days he points at me 1223 01:03:52,454 --> 01:03:53,580 and goes "Ding dang!" 1224 01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:54,581 [both chuckle] 1225 01:03:54,581 --> 01:03:57,000 There's a lot of strange stuff happening here. 1226 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,839 George and I just drove up to wherever Micky Dolenz lived 1227 01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:05,843 and Stephen Stills was there and several other people. 1228 01:04:06,510 --> 01:04:09,096 And they were all being hippies in the nude. 1229 01:04:09,096 --> 01:04:11,014 And when they saw it was George and I driving 1230 01:04:11,014 --> 01:04:13,183 they all run in and got dressed! [both laugh] 1231 01:04:13,183 --> 01:04:16,353 And we were going well, that's not very hippie. 1232 01:04:16,353 --> 01:04:18,689 You just felt like you could do anything, you know. 1233 01:04:18,689 --> 01:04:22,484 You just felt like there was nothing stopping you, 1234 01:04:22,484 --> 01:04:25,195 is the way that -- and Hollywood was right there 1235 01:04:25,195 --> 01:04:28,240 and the music industry, or a good part of it. 1236 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,868 And Sunset Boulevard, you know. 1237 01:04:31,660 --> 01:04:34,496 It just -- it reeked of what happened in the 40s 1238 01:04:34,496 --> 01:04:39,793 with the movie stars and that lifestyle. 1239 01:04:39,793 --> 01:04:44,506 And, in a sense, we emulated it in a different way. 1240 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,509 There's a certain thing about freedom of spirit, 1241 01:04:47,509 --> 01:04:50,512 a certain thing about lack of rules, 1242 01:04:50,512 --> 01:04:54,099 lack of previous stuff holding you in place. 1243 01:04:54,808 --> 01:04:57,185 Certain people wound up, you know, in certain places 1244 01:04:57,185 --> 01:04:59,438 and chemistries happened 1245 01:04:59,438 --> 01:05:02,399 and they inspired other chemistries around them. 1246 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,944 NASH: I kind of compare it with Vienna at the turn of the century 1247 01:05:05,944 --> 01:05:09,197 when all those architects and painters and furniture builders 1248 01:05:09,197 --> 01:05:10,908 would drink massive amounts of coffee, 1249 01:05:10,908 --> 01:05:13,368 and what are you doing and what are you working on now? 1250 01:05:13,368 --> 01:05:16,038 Paris in the 30s with Gertrude Stein and all, 1251 01:05:16,038 --> 01:05:18,040 you know, all those artists coming together. 1252 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,210 But I think this era, in time, is gonna be treated exactly the same way 1253 01:05:22,210 --> 01:05:24,630 in a couple of hundred years by the historians. 1254 01:05:26,048 --> 01:05:29,009 The power of music is undeniable. 1255 01:05:29,718 --> 01:05:32,304 I truly believe it can change the world. 1256 01:05:32,304 --> 01:05:33,347 I do. 1257 01:05:33,889 --> 01:05:35,474 Small ways, but... 1258 01:05:39,019 --> 01:05:40,479 I'm not letting this go! 1259 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,821 [band begins playing "Goin' Back"] 1260 01:06:01,917 --> 01:06:04,670 ♪ I think I'm goin' back ♪ 1261 01:06:05,462 --> 01:06:09,216 ♪ To the things I learned so well ♪ 1262 01:06:09,216 --> 01:06:11,009 ♪ In my youth ♪ 1263 01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:16,598 ♪ I think I'm returning to ♪ 1264 01:06:17,307 --> 01:06:21,186 ♪ Those days when I was young enough ♪ 1265 01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:23,188 ♪ To know the truth ♪ 1266 01:06:25,357 --> 01:06:27,859 ♪ Now there are no games ♪ 1267 01:06:28,986 --> 01:06:31,655 ♪ To only pass the time ♪ 1268 01:06:33,031 --> 01:06:35,701 ♪ No more electric trains ♪ 1269 01:06:36,952 --> 01:06:39,788 ♪ No more trees to climb ♪ 1270 01:06:41,665 --> 01:06:46,003 ♪ But thinking young and growing older ♪ 1271 01:06:46,003 --> 01:06:47,671 ♪ Is no sin ♪ 1272 01:06:49,798 --> 01:06:54,678 ♪ And I can play the game of life to win ♪ 1273 01:06:57,848 --> 01:07:00,726 ♪ I can recall the time ♪ 1274 01:07:01,435 --> 01:07:07,024 ♪ When I wasn't afraid to reach out to a friend ♪ 1275 01:07:09,735 --> 01:07:12,404 ♪ Now I think I've got ♪ 1276 01:07:13,572 --> 01:07:18,952 ♪ A lot more than just my toys to lend ♪ 1277 01:07:20,871 --> 01:07:23,123 ♪ Now there's more to do ♪ 1278 01:07:24,416 --> 01:07:27,210 ♪ Than watch my sailboat glide ♪ 1279 01:07:28,462 --> 01:07:32,466 ♪ And every day can be ♪ 1280 01:07:32,466 --> 01:07:35,343 ♪ A magic carpet ride ♪ 1281 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:40,390 ♪ A little bit of courage ♪ 1282 01:07:41,058 --> 01:07:43,101 ♪ Is all we lack ♪ 1283 01:07:45,062 --> 01:07:48,190 ♪ So catch me if you can ♪ 1284 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,026 ♪ I'm goin' back ♪ 1285 01:07:54,738 --> 01:07:59,826 ♪ La la la la-la la la la, la-la la la ♪ 1286 01:08:02,746 --> 01:08:08,001 ♪ La la la, la-la la la la, la-la la la ♪ 1287 01:08:18,136 --> 01:08:22,641 ♪ La la la, la-la la la la, la-la la la ♪ 1288 01:08:22,641 --> 01:08:24,518 McGUlNN: You know, the politics in bands 1289 01:08:24,518 --> 01:08:25,936 it gets pretty heavy sometimes, 1290 01:08:25,936 --> 01:08:28,772 especially when one guy's getting more songs on the record 1291 01:08:28,772 --> 01:08:30,148 than somebody else. 1292 01:08:30,148 --> 01:08:32,609 And David had written this song about a ménage à trios. 1293 01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:33,652 ["Triad" by David Crosby] 1294 01:08:33,652 --> 01:08:38,615 ♪ What can we do now that we both love you ♪ 1295 01:08:41,201 --> 01:08:44,329 ♪ I love you too ♪ 1296 01:08:45,664 --> 01:08:48,416 ♪ And I don't really see ♪ 1297 01:08:48,416 --> 01:08:52,879 ♪ Why can't we go on as three ♪ 1298 01:08:53,463 --> 01:08:54,714 McGUlNN: I didn't think it was appropriate 1299 01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:56,007 for what we were doing, 1300 01:08:56,007 --> 01:08:58,260 but he thought it was cool and hip and everything. 1301 01:08:58,260 --> 01:09:01,721 And we decided to do a Goffin and King song 1302 01:09:01,721 --> 01:09:04,975 called "Going Back" and he was just up in arms about that. 1303 01:09:05,350 --> 01:09:06,810 CROSBY: It just wasn't, you know, 1304 01:09:06,810 --> 01:09:09,354 something that they thought was in good taste, you know. 1305 01:09:09,354 --> 01:09:12,149 It was risqué, it was out on the edge, you know. 1306 01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:13,900 To me it's not out on the edge at all. 1307 01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:15,235 It's just a love song. 1308 01:09:15,235 --> 01:09:16,611 It has happened. 1309 01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:19,030 I mean otherwise the French wouldn't have a name for it! 1310 01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:21,074 NASH: It wasn't so much David writing the song. 1311 01:09:21,074 --> 01:09:24,828 It was the realization that he actually lived it, many times. 1312 01:09:24,828 --> 01:09:26,705 That was what pissed me off. 1313 01:09:26,705 --> 01:09:28,832 He knows it was a naughty song to write. 1314 01:09:28,832 --> 01:09:31,376 You gotta remember, Crosby was like Brando. 1315 01:09:31,376 --> 01:09:32,836 He had no boundaries. 1316 01:09:32,836 --> 01:09:35,422 McGUlNN: Carole and Gerry had moved from New York to L.A. 1317 01:09:35,422 --> 01:09:37,507 and they had starting writing songs that -- 1318 01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:40,177 not the kind of girl band stuff they'd been doing. 1319 01:09:40,177 --> 01:09:43,722 But more of like a hipper style. 1320 01:09:43,722 --> 01:09:47,017 And David was -- he was, um, insufferable. 1321 01:09:47,017 --> 01:09:48,393 He was tough to live with. 1322 01:09:48,393 --> 01:09:50,061 He didn't get his cool song on 1323 01:09:50,061 --> 01:09:53,523 and we did this kind of really commercial song instead. 1324 01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:55,192 So, he was angry with that. 1325 01:09:55,192 --> 01:09:57,611 The breaking point really was when Chris Hillman 1326 01:09:57,611 --> 01:10:00,739 got mad at David and said we gotta get rid of him. 1327 01:10:00,739 --> 01:10:02,574 The fun thing is that everybody thinks that 1328 01:10:02,574 --> 01:10:04,284 that's why they threw me out of The Byrds. 1329 01:10:04,284 --> 01:10:05,452 Ladies and gentlemen, 1330 01:10:05,452 --> 01:10:07,370 that's not why they threw me out of The Byrds. 1331 01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:09,915 They threw me out of The Byrds 'cause I was an asshole. 1332 01:10:09,915 --> 01:10:11,458 He was saying things like you guys are not 1333 01:10:11,458 --> 01:10:13,835 good enough musicians to be playing with me. 1334 01:10:13,835 --> 01:10:16,213 I went oh, really? [chuckles] 1335 01:10:16,213 --> 01:10:18,006 - That's not cool, you know! - Yeah. 1336 01:10:18,006 --> 01:10:19,674 So, we didn't like that attitude very much. 1337 01:10:19,674 --> 01:10:21,676 You know, I say it's because I was an asshole. 1338 01:10:21,676 --> 01:10:23,220 It wasn't that simple, of course. 1339 01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:24,888 If you give kids millions of dollars, you know, 1340 01:10:24,888 --> 01:10:26,014 they'll screw up. 1341 01:10:26,014 --> 01:10:27,849 We held it together for a pretty long time. 1342 01:10:27,849 --> 01:10:30,393 Bands tend to devolve. 1343 01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:32,479 They evolve up the point where they're exciting 1344 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,147 and they're new and they're good, 1345 01:10:34,147 --> 01:10:36,358 and then after that they work their way slowly downhill 1346 01:10:36,358 --> 01:10:38,902 until it's turn on the smoke machine and play your hits. 1347 01:10:38,902 --> 01:10:40,695 And that's not good enough for me. 1348 01:10:41,238 --> 01:10:42,572 It's just not. 1349 01:10:42,822 --> 01:10:44,282 I've done it. 1350 01:10:44,282 --> 01:10:46,159 You know, 'cause it was the path of least resistance 1351 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,870 and it made me lots of money and all that good stuff. 1352 01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:50,205 It's not good enough. 1353 01:10:51,081 --> 01:10:53,541 ♪ Now there's more to do ♪ 1354 01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:57,629 ♪ Than watch my sailboat glide ♪ 1355 01:10:58,838 --> 01:11:01,758 ♪ And every day can be ♪ 1356 01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:05,553 ♪ A magic carpet ride ♪ 1357 01:11:07,597 --> 01:11:10,684 ♪ A little bit of courage ♪ 1358 01:11:11,351 --> 01:11:13,395 ♪ Is all we lack ♪ 1359 01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:19,192 ♪ So catch me if you can ♪ 1360 01:11:19,192 --> 01:11:21,653 ♪ I'm goin' back ♪ 1361 01:11:23,363 --> 01:11:28,535 ♪ La la la, la-la la la la, la-la la la La la la, la-la ♪ 1362 01:11:31,162 --> 01:11:34,541 ♪ La la la, la-la ♪ 1363 01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:39,713 [audience cheers] 1364 01:11:42,507 --> 01:11:44,718 REPORTER: I feel like we hear these songs, 1365 01:11:44,718 --> 01:11:46,928 we grew up with these songs, and then we take them for granted 1366 01:11:46,928 --> 01:11:49,347 and I feel like there's this thing happening tonight 1367 01:11:49,347 --> 01:11:51,474 and in your hands, and in this band's hands, 1368 01:11:51,474 --> 01:11:53,184 where you're kind of bringing them back to life 1369 01:11:53,184 --> 01:11:54,477 and reminding us of the brilliance. 1370 01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:55,854 Can you talk a little about that? 1371 01:11:55,854 --> 01:12:00,734 It really started with, ah, seeing this film, 1372 01:12:00,734 --> 01:12:02,319 which was "Model Shop". 1373 01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:05,572 And it was a movie in '67 done by Jacques Demy. 1374 01:12:05,572 --> 01:12:09,576 That movie looked like the sound of The Beach Boys 1375 01:12:09,576 --> 01:12:11,119 and The Mamas & Papas. 1376 01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:15,206 And so, it sent us on an exploration back to that time 1377 01:12:15,206 --> 01:12:18,501 and to look at the records that, you know, made, ah, 1378 01:12:18,501 --> 01:12:21,379 made that age of innocence of southern California writing 1379 01:12:21,379 --> 01:12:24,841 from '65 to '67, you know, come alive. 1380 01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:26,843 Most of the groups that we're talking about, 1381 01:12:26,843 --> 01:12:29,512 that we've picked from, I think they were -- 1382 01:12:29,512 --> 01:12:32,223 those are the ones that are the premier southern California rock bands 1383 01:12:32,223 --> 01:12:34,809 from that year at that time. 1384 01:12:37,687 --> 01:12:41,524 CROSBY: Something happened there that engendered 1385 01:12:41,524 --> 01:12:45,028 a whole lot of music, a whole lot of 1386 01:12:45,028 --> 01:12:49,032 new ways of approaching the music possible. 1387 01:12:49,991 --> 01:12:51,868 Whatever it was, it was a good thing. 1388 01:12:52,285 --> 01:12:55,372 DYLAN: I don't think you have to put too much effort into it, really. 1389 01:12:55,372 --> 01:12:57,290 I think they're classics. They're timeless. 1390 01:12:57,290 --> 01:13:01,211 And a good song will sound as good then as it'll sound today. 1391 01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:04,089 You don't have to do much. We didn't reinvent them at all. 1392 01:13:04,089 --> 01:13:05,965 We actually stayed pretty true to what they sounded like. 1393 01:13:05,965 --> 01:13:08,301 And oddly enough, that sound is pretty relevant. 1394 01:13:08,301 --> 01:13:09,969 It's pretty current right now. 1395 01:13:11,638 --> 01:13:13,098 CROSBY: I think, you know, people have been trying 1396 01:13:13,098 --> 01:13:14,724 to put salt on its tail for a long time, 1397 01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:17,227 trying to figure out why it happened there 1398 01:13:17,227 --> 01:13:19,020 and how it happened there. 1399 01:13:19,020 --> 01:13:23,108 And I -- you can guess 1400 01:13:23,108 --> 01:13:24,818 and you can point out certain factors 1401 01:13:24,818 --> 01:13:26,903 that you think would have been influencing it. 1402 01:13:27,112 --> 01:13:30,657 But I don't know if we'll ever get it named. 1403 01:13:31,491 --> 01:13:32,784 It did happen. 1404 01:13:33,076 --> 01:13:36,913 And it still is a place where people come to make music. 1405 01:13:39,416 --> 01:13:43,962 BECK: Maybe it started with this optimism of The Beatles 1406 01:13:43,962 --> 01:13:48,049 to Ed Sullivan was the beginning of '64, 1407 01:13:48,049 --> 01:13:52,512 so that is the perfect kickoff where there's this fad, right? 1408 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,015 People want to be their own Beatles. 1409 01:13:56,349 --> 01:14:00,186 And then so that lasts for two, two and a half years. 1410 01:14:00,186 --> 01:14:01,729 Well, it probably changed a lot when 1411 01:14:01,729 --> 01:14:04,441 everybody started writing more complex, longer songs, 1412 01:14:04,441 --> 01:14:07,068 which is kind of up until Pet Sounds and Expecting to Fly. 1413 01:14:07,068 --> 01:14:09,154 Songs were three and a half minutes and they could do -- 1414 01:14:09,154 --> 01:14:11,197 they realized they could do a lot more. 1415 01:14:11,197 --> 01:14:13,658 Don't you feel like some of these songs 1416 01:14:13,658 --> 01:14:17,287 structurally, like word-wise and sound-wise, 1417 01:14:17,287 --> 01:14:20,957 they're almost like more related to dreams? 1418 01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:23,710 Because they feel like music before was more written 1419 01:14:23,710 --> 01:14:26,463 for like the conscious mind and this seems to be like more 1420 01:14:26,463 --> 01:14:29,507 coming in touch with the subconscious, 1421 01:14:29,507 --> 01:14:32,051 which is on the way to psychedelia probably, 1422 01:14:32,051 --> 01:14:33,845 just that in-between? 1423 01:14:33,845 --> 01:14:35,638 Well I think we talked about "Expecting To Fly" 1424 01:14:35,638 --> 01:14:38,266 and maybe that's the end of it? 1425 01:14:39,851 --> 01:14:41,227 You know? 1426 01:14:41,227 --> 01:14:43,730 I'm not sure I would be the one to say why it's the end of it, 1427 01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:45,815 but that's very different than everything else we listened to 1428 01:14:45,815 --> 01:14:48,151 and I wouldn't say more ambitious, 1429 01:14:48,151 --> 01:14:51,696 but it seemed like something cracked open maybe right then. 1430 01:14:53,865 --> 01:14:59,412 BECK: That era begins with this collective idea of these 1431 01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:01,789 musicians and this creative force coming together 1432 01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:02,957 to make something bigger. 1433 01:15:02,957 --> 01:15:06,961 And then the era ends when it becomes more 1434 01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:08,630 about the individual, 1435 01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:12,926 yeah, searching their own life and their own path 1436 01:15:12,926 --> 01:15:17,388 and, ah, yeah, you get all these groups breaking up. 1437 01:15:17,889 --> 01:15:21,017 When you have strong minded people 1438 01:15:21,017 --> 01:15:24,687 and they're having these visions of a new type of art 1439 01:15:24,687 --> 01:15:28,525 and they start to compromise, then it just doesn't last maybe. 1440 01:15:30,151 --> 01:15:32,237 What do you remember about "Expecting To Fly"? 1441 01:15:32,237 --> 01:15:33,321 'Cause we recorded that for the record. 1442 01:15:33,321 --> 01:15:34,614 What do you remember about recording that song? 1443 01:15:34,614 --> 01:15:36,699 Actually, I wasn't allowed on those sessions. 1444 01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:37,617 You're not on that at all? 1445 01:15:37,617 --> 01:15:41,079 No, that's when Neil had decided to take flight. 1446 01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:43,331 - That song was a warning. - Was it? 1447 01:15:43,331 --> 01:15:45,708 - Yes, I'm leaving. - Really? 1448 01:15:45,708 --> 01:15:48,211 And I'm going to wait until it's absolutely 1449 01:15:48,211 --> 01:15:51,214 critically important to the survival of the band, 1450 01:15:51,214 --> 01:15:54,968 like the night before Johnny Carson booked the first rock band. 1451 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,763 Neil quit the day before we we're getting on the plane. 1452 01:16:01,349 --> 01:16:04,310 [band tunes up] 1453 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:12,694 [band plays "Expecting To Fly"] 1454 01:16:16,823 --> 01:16:18,700 [audience cheers] 1455 01:16:30,503 --> 01:16:35,508 ♪ There you stood on the edge of your feather ♪ 1456 01:16:36,884 --> 01:16:40,680 ♪ Expecting to fly ♪ 1457 01:16:42,432 --> 01:16:47,437 ♪ While I laughed and I wondered whether ♪ 1458 01:16:48,688 --> 01:16:52,567 ♪ I could wave goodbye ♪ 1459 01:16:54,944 --> 01:16:59,198 ♪ Knowin' that you'd gone ♪ 1460 01:17:03,870 --> 01:17:08,833 ♪ By the summer it was healing ♪ 1461 01:17:10,084 --> 01:17:13,046 ♪ And we had said goodbye ♪ 1462 01:17:14,881 --> 01:17:19,719 ♪ All the years we'd spent with feeling ♪ 1463 01:17:21,179 --> 01:17:23,931 ♪ Ended with a cry ♪ 1464 01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:28,686 ♪ Babe ♪ 1465 01:17:29,562 --> 01:17:32,231 ♪ Ended with a cry ♪ 1466 01:17:33,524 --> 01:17:36,527 ♪ Babe ♪ 1467 01:17:37,737 --> 01:17:40,490 ♪ Ended with a cry ♪ 1468 01:17:44,869 --> 01:17:48,039 [music continues] 1469 01:17:57,048 --> 01:18:02,637 ♪ I tried so hard to stand as I stumbled ♪ 1470 01:18:03,888 --> 01:18:07,809 ♪ And fell to the ground ♪ 1471 01:18:08,893 --> 01:18:11,896 ♪ So hard to laugh ♪ 1472 01:18:11,896 --> 01:18:14,399 ♪ As I fumbled ♪ 1473 01:18:15,525 --> 01:18:20,029 ♪ And reached for the love I found ♪ 1474 01:18:21,698 --> 01:18:25,702 ♪ Knowin' it was gone ♪ 1475 01:18:30,581 --> 01:18:35,586 ♪ If I never lived without you ♪ 1476 01:18:37,088 --> 01:18:40,049 ♪ Now you know I'd die ♪ 1477 01:18:41,592 --> 01:18:46,472 ♪ If I never said I loved you ♪ 1478 01:18:47,849 --> 01:18:50,810 ♪ Well now you know I'd try ♪ 1479 01:18:52,186 --> 01:18:55,314 ♪ Babe ♪ 1480 01:18:56,232 --> 01:18:58,860 ♪ Now you know I'd try ♪ 1481 01:19:00,486 --> 01:19:03,489 ♪ Babe ♪ 1482 01:19:04,615 --> 01:19:07,201 ♪ Now you know I'd try ♪ 1483 01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:12,206 ♪ Babe ♪ 1484 01:19:12,874 --> 01:19:15,793 ♪ Now you know I'd try ♪ 1485 01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:18,212 [applause] 1486 01:19:18,212 --> 01:19:21,841 [music rewinds] 1487 01:19:28,431 --> 01:19:31,309 ["What's Happening?!?!", Jakob Dylan singing] 1488 01:19:31,309 --> 01:19:33,227 ♪ I don't know ♪ 1489 01:19:36,814 --> 01:19:39,442 ♪ What's going on here ♪ 1490 01:19:40,651 --> 01:19:42,612 ♪ And I don't know ♪ 1491 01:19:45,156 --> 01:19:48,743 ♪ How it's supposed to be ♪ 1492 01:19:50,995 --> 01:19:54,665 [music continues] 1493 01:20:01,798 --> 01:20:03,841 ♪ Oh, I don't have ♪ 1494 01:20:07,303 --> 01:20:09,889 ♪ The vaguest notion ♪ 1495 01:20:11,224 --> 01:20:12,975 ♪ Whose it is ♪ 1496 01:20:16,604 --> 01:20:20,817 ♪ Or what it's all for ♪ 1497 01:20:21,609 --> 01:20:24,487 [music continues] 1498 01:20:32,453 --> 01:20:34,330 ♪ I don't know ♪ 1499 01:20:37,875 --> 01:20:40,711 ♪ And I'm not cryin' ♪ 1500 01:20:41,712 --> 01:20:44,215 ♪ Laughin' mostly ♪ 1501 01:20:47,218 --> 01:20:51,347 ♪ As you can see ♪ 1502 01:20:52,181 --> 01:20:55,810 [music continues] 120828

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