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[ SIREN WAILS ]

Joe: SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

THERE IS A GUY WHO HAS BEEN ARRESTED,

AND HE'S CURRENTLY IN THE KING COUNTY JAIL.

HE SAID IT WAS A NICE NIGHT. HE'S HAVING A GOOD TIME.

THE DETECTIVES ARE BOTH LOOKING AT EACH OTHER,

AND THEY'RE BOTH THINKING THE SAME THING.

WE MIGHT BE DEALING WITH A SERIAL KILLER HERE.

HEY, HELP!

I SPENT MY CAREER CLOSING MURDER CASES.

BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO ANSWERED THE CALL.

IT TAKES A RARE BREED TO SOLVE THE INSOLVABLE...

TO CATCH A RUTHLESS KILLER...

TO FIND JUSTICE FOR THE DEAD.

THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AN AMERICAN DETECTIVE.

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Steiger: MY NAME IS CLOYD STEIGER.

I RETIRED IN 2016

AFTER 36 YEARS WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I SPENT THE LAST 22 YEARS OF THOSE AS A HOMICIDE DETECTIVE.

I WORKED ON ABOUT 250 MURDERS.

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[ WHISTLE BLOWS ]

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

I WAS AT MY SON'S WRESTLING TOURNAMENT.

AND JUST GETTING STARTED, AND MY PHONE RANG.

[ CELLPHONE RINGING ]

IT WAS THE SERGEANT.

HE SAID, "WE'VE GOT A WOMAN THERE WITH HER THROAT CUT."

I WENT, "WELL, SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T CUT HER OWN THROAT.

I'M ON MY WAY IN."

[ ENGINE STARTS ]

WHEN I HEARD WHERE THE BODY WAS FOUND, I KNEW THE AREA.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

IT'S INDUSTRIAL.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY CITY SHOPS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET,

WHERE WE GET OUR POLICE CARS WORKED ON.

SO I WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

Joe: IT'S A DANGEROUS AND INFAMOUS AREA

IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE, KNOWN AS THE JUNGLE.

THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT THE JUNGLE, I WAS INTRIGUED.

IT'S CALLED THE JUNGLE, REALLY,

BECAUSE IT'S THIS STRETCH OF WOODS

THAT'S A LARGE, LAWLESS HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.

IT IS A GATHERING AREA FOR THE LOST SOULS OF SEATTLE --

PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORED BY SOCIETY,

WHO LIVE A LIFE DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE,

WHO LIVE IN AN AREA OF CRIME, DRUG ADDICTION, AND VIOLENCE

IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR CITY.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

Steiger: SO I PULLED UP ON THE SCENE, AND IT WAS BITTERLY COLD.

I'VE WORKED MORE THAN TWO OR THREE MURDERS

THAT HAVE ORIGINATED IN THE JUNGLE.

Joe: STEIGER IS ABOUT AS QUALIFIED AS YOU CAN BE

IN THE MURDER BUSINESS.

HE HAS A PASSION FOR IT.

HE'S SMART, INSTINCTIVE, AND EXTREMELY WELL EXPERIENCED.

IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO INVESTIGATE A MURDER,

HE'D BE YOUR GUY.

Steiger: WHAT DO WE GOT?

THEY REPORT THAT THERE IS A FEMALE, PHYSICALLY SMALL.

SHE'S SITTING ON THE STAIRCASE. AND HER THROAT HAS BEEN SLASHED.

SHE HAS BLED OUT, AND SHE'S BEEN DEAD FOR SOME TIME.

THEY ALSO SAY THERE'S A WITNESS WHO SAW HER SITTING THERE

AND WAS THE PERSON WHO CALLED THE POLICE

TO DRAW THEIR ATTENTION TO THIS WOMAN.

Steiger: HE WAS IN THE BACK OF A PATROL CAR.

THE GUY WHO LOOKED LIKE A TRANSIENT.

THEY SAID HE'S GOT BLOOD ON HIS CLOTHING.

OF COURSE, THAT PIQUED MY INTEREST RIGHT AWAY.

ALL OF THE CRIME SCENE WAS CONTAINED BY THIS STAIRCASE.

I DIDN'T GO DOWN THE STAIRWELL. WE DON'T DO THAT.

YOU STAND UP THERE AND YOU MAKE YOUR OBSERVATIONS,

AND NOBODY TOUCHES THE BODY

UNTIL THE MEDICAL EXAMINER GETS THERE.

THAT'S THEIR JURISDICTION.

I SAW THAT THIS WOMAN WAS KIND OF CURLED UP

AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS,

I COULD SEE BLOOD ON THE MATTRESS, BLOOD AROUND HER.

IT WAS A MESS DOWN THERE.

Joe: HE NOTICES ONE EXTERIOR PAIR OF PANTS,

BUT THERE ARE OTHER PANTS UNDER THAT PAIR OF PANTS.

SO SHE HAS THE APPEARANCE OF SOMEONE

WHO PROBABLY LIVES IN THE JUNGLE,

BECAUSE SHE'S DRESSED THAT WAY.

LaVoice: IT JUST KIND OF PAINTS THIS PICTURE OF THIS YOUNG WOMAN

WHO WAS LIVING ON THE STREETS IN A REALLY HARD TIME,

WHO WAS JUST DOING HER BEST TO SURVIVE.

Man: HER SHOELACES.

Steiger: I SAW HER SHOES WERE OFF,

AND ONE OF OUR SHOELACES WAS UNTIED.

THE TAKING THE SHOE OFF WAS OBVIOUSLY DELIBERATE.

WHY WOULD SOMEONE TAKE THE SHOE OFF IN THAT COLD WEATHER?

SHE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DO IT HERSELF.

STEIGER MAKES A MENTAL NOTE OF THAT,

BUT HE KNOWS IT'S UNUSUAL.

AND ANYTHING UNUSUAL IS WORTH PAYING ATTENTION TO.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

[ SIREN WAILS ]

LATER THAT DAY, STEIGER HAS THE ARRIVAL

OF A FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST AT THE SCENE

FROM THE SEATTLE CORONER'S OFFICE,

AND THEY TOGETHER EXAMINE THE REMAINS.

LaVoice: SHE'S A NATIVE AMERICAN WOMAN

WHO LOOKS TO BE QUITE YOUNG.

THEY THINK SHE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A TEENAGER.

I COULD SEE DEVASTATING THROAT SLASHING.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

IT GOT ALL OF HER MAJOR VESSELS IN HER NECK.

AND THEN ONE THAT WENT THROUGH HER CHEEK,

AND IT WAS ALL THE WAY -- ALMOST ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

Joe: SO YOU HAVE SOMEONE PLAYING WITH HER SHOELACES,

AND THEN IT GOES INTO THIS VIOLENT RAGE INVOLVING A KNIFE.

THE KNIFE ISN'T FOUND AT THE CRIME SCENE.

Steiger: MY IMPRESSION WAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH PROSTITUTION OR DRUGS,

MAYBE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THING.

BUT YOU GOT TO GO WITH THE FLOW.

YOU GOT TO GO WHERE THE EVIDENCE TAKES YOU.

Joe: THIS PERSON, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR A LIKELY RESIDENT

OF THE JUNGLE, CARRIES NO IDENTIFICATION WHATSOEVER.

Steiger: SO, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE TO WAIT

UNTIL SHE'S FINGERPRINTED, TO FIND OUT WHO SHE IS.

THE MEDICAL EXAMINER TOLD ME,

"I'LL DO THE AUTOPSY ON MONDAY MORNING."

I SAID, "I'LL SEE YOU THERE." AND THEN HE TOOK HER AWAY.

SO, THE WITNESS WHO FOUND THIS GIRL,

HIS NAME IS WILLIAM GILMER.

STEIGER LOOKS AT THIS WITNESS, AND HE HAS BLOOD ON HIS CLOTHES.

NOW, THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

HE HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH REASON TO BELIEVE

THAT THIS MAN COULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS.

SOMETIMES I'LL TALK TO THEM RIGHT THERE.

BUT BECAUSE THIS GUY HAD BLOOD ON HIM,

I WANTED TO BE A LITTLE MORE ELABORATE.

CAN YOU RIDE HIM DOWN TO HOMICIDE FOR ME?

AND I SAID, "WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU DOWN TO MY OFFICE.

I'LL GET YOU A CUP OF COFFEE OR SOMETHING,

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT."

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[ DOOR OPENS, SHUTS ]

THE BEST INTERROGATIONS ARE THE ONES

WHERE THE SUSPECT DOESN'T KNOW HE'S BEING INTERROGATED.

I'M GONNA RECORD OUR CONVERSATION.

IS THAT OKAY?

IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION, RIGHT?

Joe: HE IS A RESIDENT OF THE JUNGLE.

Steiger: HE HAD BEEN BY THERE EARLIER.

HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEPLACE TO SLEEP.

AND HE'S PROBABLY SLEPT DOWN THAT STAIRWELL BEFORE.

HEY!

Steiger: HE COULD SEE SOMEONE DOWN THERE.

AND HE GOES, "HEY, HEY!"

Joe: HE NOTICES THAT SHE HASN'T MOVED.

HE GETS CLOSER TO HER

AND REALIZES SHE'S COVERED IN BLOOD,

AND THAT SHE'S DEAD.

AND HE IS TAKEN ABACK.

HEY!

HE GOES INTO THAT BUILDING,

WHICH IS A DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HALFWAY HOUSE,

AND OF COURSE, THEY CALL 911.

AND HERE COMES THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

Steiger: I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE BLOOD.

GILMER SAYS HE GOT IN A FIST FIGHT WITH A GUY...

...GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH.

THEY BEAT EACH OTHER UP,

AND THAT BLOOD IS NOT ONLY HIS, FROM HIS MOUTH,

BUT ALSO SOME FROM THE OTHER GUY.

I SAID, "SO, THERE'S NO CHANCE IN THE WORLD

THAT THAT IS HER BLOOD?" AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID,

"THERE IS NO CHANCE IN THE WORLD THAT THAT IS HER BLOOD."

SAID IT VERY CONFIDENTLY, VERY MATTER-OF-FACTLY,

AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SWAB YOUR HANDS.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CLOTHING

BECAUSE YOU HAVE BLOOD ON IT." "OKAY."

"I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING ELSE TO WEAR."

Joe: SO THEY DO TAKE HIS CLOTHING FOR TESTING,

AND IT IS DETERMINED

THAT THAT'S NOT THE BLOOD OF THE VICTIM.

Steiger: HE WAS PERFECTLY COOPERATIVE, HAD NO PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING,

ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS HONESTLY,

AND HAD NO HESITATION, SO...

...EVENTUALLY, WE ELIMINATED HIM AS A SUSPECT.

Joe: STEIGER IS EXPERIENCED AND HE'S SMART,

AND HE'S THINKING ABOUT THIS GIRL,

"HOW DID SHE COME TO BE MURDERED IN A STAIRWELL

NEXT TO THE JUNGLE?"

Steiger: AND I REMEMBERED BACK,

I THINK IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER THAT YEAR,

THAT THERE'D BEEN A MURDER OF A WOMAN,

AN UNSOLVED AT THAT POINT.

THAT ALSO HAPPENED IN THE JUNGLE.

Joe: SO HE DECIDES THAT IT'S IN HIS INTEREST

TO REVIEW THAT CASE AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISONS

BETWEEN THAT EVENT AND THIS EVENT.

SO HE GOES AND LOOKS AT THAT REPORT.

AND I LOOKED OVER THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CRIME SCENE.

Joe: AND HE'S LOOKING THROUGH THEM

UNTIL HE COMES TO A CERTAIN PHOTOGRAPH.

AND HE ALMOST DROPS HIS HEAD ON THE DESK.

DENISE HARRIS' CASE.

SHE WAS TIED UP WITH HER OWN SHOELACES.

Joe: THAT HITS STEIGER LIKE A LIGHTNING BOLT.

Steiger: THE FACT THAT MY VICTIM'S SHOE WAS EVEN OFF,

THAT MEANS THAT SOMEBODY TOOK THAT SHOE OFF FOR A REASON.

AND YOU WOULDN'T JUST TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF

IN THAT COLD WEATHER LIKE THAT.

SOMETHING WAS GOING ON

Joe: IN HOMICIDE, YOU LEARN VERY QUICKLY,

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A COINCIDENCE.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

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Joe: DETECTIVE STEIGER IS DEALING WITH THE HOMICIDE

OF AN UNKNOWN FEMALE

CLOSE TO THE JUNGLE IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

HEY. HEY.

MIKE CIESYNSKI WAS A LEAD DETECTIVE

IN THE DENISE HARRIS MURDER,

WHICH IS AN UNSOLVED AT THAT POINT.

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

MY IMPRESSION WAS, THIS IS RELATED.

SO I SHOWED HIM PICTURES OF MY CASE,

WE WENT INTO HOMICIDE AROUND THE SAME TIME.

HIM JUST A LITTLE BEFORE ME.

I THINK HE WAS SIX MONTHS BEFORE ME.

Steiger: BESIDES THE FACT THAT THE SHOE LACES WERE UNDONE,

THE OTHER THING THAT LED ME TO THINK

THESE COULD POSSIBLY BE RELATED WAS THE GEOGRAPHIC PROXIMITY.

THEY WERE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER,

PROBABLY LIKE 800 OR 900 YARDS AWAY.

Joe: CIESYNSKI TELLS HIM HIS VICTIM, DENISE HARRIS,

IS 42 YEARS OLD AND SHE WAS A SCHOOLTEACHER.

DENISE'S MOTHER LIVED IN CALIFORNIA.

I WAS ABLE TO CONTACT HER.

DENISE HAD SEEMED TO BE BATTLING SOME SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS.

DENISE HAD A HOME. SHE HAD A HOME HERE IN SEATTLE.

SHE HAD A FIANCé. SHE ALSO HAD A CAREER.

AND HER FIANCé DESCRIBES THIS WOMAN

THAT HAS THESE CAREER ASPIRATIONS,

BUT SHE'S A VICTIM TO ADDICTION.

THE ADDICTION COMPLETELY CONTROLLED HER LIFE.

Joe: DENISE WOUND UP LOSING HER EMPLOYMENT

AND ULTIMATELY LOST HER LIFE IN THE JUNGLE.

DENISE'S BODY WAS FOUND LYING ON HER BACK,

AND I COULD TELL FROM HER CLOTHES

THAT SHE WAS DRAGGED A SHORT DISTANCE.

SHE WAS WEARING A SMALL ZIP-UP JACKET

AND WHITE TENNIS SHOES

THAT DID NOT HAVE THE LACES IN THEM.

HER MURDER WAS HORRIFIC.

HER HANDS AND HER FEET

ARE BOUND TOGETHER BY HER OWN SHOELACES,

AND SHE HAS A BELT TIED AROUND HER NECK.

SHE ALSO HAS HER OWN BRA STUFFED IN HER MOUTH AS A GAG.

WHOEVER DID THIS REALLY PUT TIME INTO IT

AND DID IT IN A REALLY SADISTIC WAY.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

Ciesynski: THE FIRST THING YOU'RE THINKING IS,

"WHAT'S A GIRL LIKE THIS DOING UP IN THE JUNGLE?"

AND SHE WAS REALLY CLOSE TO A CAMPSITE.

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

ANOTHER THING THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING

WAS THERE WAS A BEER CAN.

IT WAS ABOUT HEAD-HIGH. AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT.

AND THEY GO, "WHY DO WE WANT THAT?"

I GO, "NAH, YOU KNOW WE GOT PICTURES OF ALL THESE OTHER.

I SAID, "I JUST WANT TO TAKE THAT PICTURE.

IT KIND OF STANDS OUT TO ME."

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

AT THAT POINT OF OUR INVESTIGATION,

I DID NOT HAVE ANY SUSPECTS,

BUT I WAS DOING A LOT OF RUNNING AROUND.

WE WERE SHAKING A LOT OF TREES. COMES WITH THE TERRITORY.

Joe: HERE WE HAVE A SITUATION --

AND THIS IS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT AS A DETECTIVE --

"WHAT FACTS CONNECT ONE TO THE OTHER?

IS THERE A SERIES OF DOTS HERE?

CAN WE PUT A LINE BETWEEN THOSE DOTS?"

Steiger: AT THAT POINT, I WASN'T CONVINCED THEY WERE RELATED,

BUT I WANTED TO KEEP THAT POSSIBILITY OPEN.

ALRIGHT, MIKE, I'LL BE IN TOUCH.

DETECTIVE STEIGER, FIRST AND FOREMOST,

NEEDS TO KNOW WHO HIS VICTIM IS,

TO REALLY BE ABLE TO BEGIN THE INVESTIGATION.

HE NEEDS A CLEARER PICTURE

OF EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.

SO HE HEADS TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE,

Steiger: FINDING OUT WHO SHE IS WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHERE DO WE GO?

I WAS CONFIDENT, BY MID-MORNING, I'D KNOW WHO SHE WAS, AND I DID.

SO, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE BODY.

Joe: THE CORNER INFORMS STEIGER

THAT HE HAS IDENTIFIED HER BY HER FINGERPRINTS,

BECAUSE THERE IS A POLICE RECORD.

WE IDENTIFIED HER AS OLIVIA SMITH.

Joe: SHE IS ALMOST 28 YEARS OLD.

SHE WOULD BE 28 IN ANOTHER MONTH, HAD SHE SURVIVED.

WHEN I LOOKED AT HER RECORD,

IT WAS EVERYTHING I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED.

DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS, ASSAULT.

SHE HAS LED A TRAGIC LIFE.

SHE DABBLES IN NARCOTICS, RECREATIONAL USE,

WHICH BECOMES AN ADDICTION,

WHICH RESULTS IN HER SPIRALING INTO THE STATE OF PROSTITUTION,

OF PETTY THEFT, TO SUPPORT THE DRUG HABIT,

AND ALLOWS HER TO WIND UP IN THE JUNGLE.

HOW DID SHE DIE?

SEVERED CAROTID ARTERY.

CAUSE OF DEATH - EXSANGUINATION,

MEANING THE VICTIM BLED TO DEATH.

THAT OCCURS IN LESS THAN TWO MINUTES.

HE THEN LOOKS AT OTHER STAB WOUNDS.

THIS PERSON HAS BEEN STABBED IN THE CHEST

AND SEVEN TIMES IN THE BUTTOCKS.

NOW, WHY WOULD SOMEBODY DO THAT?

THAT'S UNUSUAL.

Steiger: WHEN I SEE THE WOUNDS THAT SHE SUFFERED IN THIS,

IT WAS A VERY QUICK AND VERY VIOLENT ATTACK.

Joe: YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER,

"IS SOMEONE TORTURING THIS VICTIM?"

IS THIS LIKE A CAT PLAYING WITH A MOUSE?

NO, HE'S DOING WHAT HE DOES.

BUT WHY WOULD SOMEBODY PLAY WITH A SHOELACE

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KILLING SOMEONE?

HE'S GOING TO SEXUALLY ASSAULT THEM, PROBABLY.

FIRST PAIR OF PANTS IS UNBUTTONED, THE REST AREN'T YET.

AND THEN THIS KNIFE APPEARS BY HER,

PROBABLY, AND SHE DRAWS IT

TO TRY TO FEND HIM OFF, AND IT ENRAGES HIM.

HE STABS, HE CUTS, HE SLASHES.

AND HE RUNS.

Steiger: THE MEDICAL EXAMINER

POINTED OUT A TATTOO ON HER ARM THAT SAID, "TAYLOR."

Joe: PEOPLE GET ART ON THEIR BODIES FOR A REASON.

IT'S NOT RANDOM. TAYLOR IS SOMEONE

OF IMPORTANCE TO THIS GIRL.

WHO IS TAYLOR?

STEIGER FINDS OLIVIA SMITH'S FAMILY.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS.

THEY HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER IN SOME TIME.

THEY KNEW SHE HAD FALLEN ON HARD TIMES.

THEY WANTED TO PREVENT THAT AND COULDN'T.

SHE REALLY WAS A WONDERFUL PERSON.

[ SOBBING ]

NOTHING EVER WORKED OUT FOR HER.

THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY SURPRISED

BECAUSE OF OUR LIFESTYLE,

BUT THEY WERE DEVASTATED NONETHELESS.

Joe: HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION ULTIMATELY

IS A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION.

WHO COULD HAVE DONE THIS,

WHO MIGHT HAVE A REASON TO DO IT,

AND ULTIMATELY WHO ACTUALLY DID IT?

LaVoice: OLIVIA WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP,

THE MAN WHO HAD BEEN ABUSIVE TO HER

AND HAD THREATENED TO KILL HER.

Joe: STEIGER ASKED, "WHAT IS HIS NAME?"

AND THE MOTHER SAYS, "HIS NAME IS TAYLOR SHAW."

STEIGER, OF COURSE, THINKS BACK TO THE AUTOPSY.

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT TATTOO HAS JUST BEEN REVEALED.

TAYLOR WAS, AT ONE POINT, HER LOVER,

AND SHE CARRIED HIS NAME ON HER BODY IN A TATTOO.

I'M TRULY SORRY FOR THE LOSS.

I'LL LET MYSELF OUT.

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Steiger: THE FAMILY DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM,

SO I ACTUALLY HAD TO LOOK FOR OTHER REPORTS

WHERE HE HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AGAINST HER.

OLIVIA SMITH, IN THE RECENT PAST, HAD FILED

A PROTECTION ORDER AGAINST TAYLOR SHAW

TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM HER.

NOT ONLY HAD HE THREATENED TO KILL OLIVIA,

BUT HE HAD ACTUALLY THREATENED TO STAB HER.

Steiger: I FOUND THAT VERY INTRIGUING.

YEAH, CAN YOU BRING IN A TAYLOR SHAW?

I WANT TO BRING HIM IN FOR QUESTIONING.

Joe: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY, BUT HE THREATENED HER LIFE

AND SAID HE WOULD USE A KNIFE.

THAT MAKES HIM A PRIME SUSPECT.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

Joe: DETECTIVE STEIGER IS INVESTIGATING

THE BRUTAL HOMICIDE OF OLIVIA SMITH,

STABBED TO DEATH AND LEFT TO DIE IN A STAIRWELL,

WHEN HE LEARNS FROM HER MOTHER THAT HER BOYFRIEND, TAYLOR SHAW,

HAD THREATENED HER WITH A KNIFE IN THE RECENT PAST.

STEIGER ALSO NOTICES THERE'S AN ACTIVE WARRANT

FOR HIS ARREST.

I WANT TO BRING HIM IN FOR QUESTIONING.

SO IT'S A PERFECT WAY TO GATHER HIM UP

AND FIND OUT WHAT HE HAS TO SAY FOR HIMSELF

IN REGARD TO THE DEATH OF OLIVIA SMITH.

Steiger: A COUPLE DAYS LATER, I HEARD THAT SOMEONE HAD BEEN ARRESTED.

I WENT TO THE JAIL AND TALKED TO THIS GUY.

MR. SHAW, I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT

AN ACTIVE HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION.

THIS IS THE FIRST BIG BREAK IN THE CASE.

THE MURDER OF OLIVIA SMITHNO. HOLD ON.

LOOK, LISTEN,

I LIED. I'M NOT TAYLOR SHAW.

LaVoice: THEY GO TO QUESTION HIM,

AND HE'S SAYING, "YOU HAVE THE WRONG GUY."

I DIDN'T MURDER ANYBODY.

I SWEAR, MY NAME IS TIM WILLIAMS.

Joe: HE CLAIMED HIS IDENTITY WAS TAYLOR SHAW

BECAUSE HE WAS WANTED UNDER HIS OWN IDENTITY FOR ROBBERY.

I ADMIT, I GOT CRIMES.

HE JUST WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO USE THE NAME

OF SOMEBODY WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

HE WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF SOMETHING.

INSTEAD, IT GOT HIM IN JAIL.

OFFICER!

Steiger: THERE WAS A LOT OF RABBIT HOLES

YOU GO DOWN, THAT SOUND LIKE THEY MIGHT BE INVOLVED.

AND THEN YOU GET TO THE END, YOU REALIZE,

"OH, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT."

AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND START OVER AGAIN.

Joe: SO TAYLOR SHAW IS STILL OUT THERE

IN THE COSMOS SOMEWHERE.

STAND UP.

AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW WHERE.

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

SO WHAT DO YOU DO?

YOU CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE.

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STEIGER IS WONDERING WHAT HIS NEXT STEP WILL BE, WHEN HE HEARS

THAT THERE HAS BEEN DISCOVERY OF HUMAN REMAINS

IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE JUNGLE.

Steiger: WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE SCENE,

I WAS MET BY THE PATROL SERGEANT AND A COUPLE PATROL OFFICERS,

AND THEY TOLD ME THAT A TRANSIENT

HAD BEEN WALKING BEHIND THESE BUILDINGS,

AND HE WAS LOOKING FOR CANS AND BOTTLES,

AND HE CAME ACROSS A SKELETON.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

AND SO HE TOOK ME BACK BEHIND THIS WAREHOUSE.

AND HE HAD HIS FLASHLIGHT AND HE WAS SHINING IT.

HE POINTED, "IT'S RIGHT THERE."

AND HE POINTED IT AT A SPOT ON THE GROUND.

AND I LOOKED AND I COULD NOT SEE ANYTHING.

AND HE SAID, "THERE'S THE SHIRT AND THERE'S THE SKULL."

WHEN THE SKULL CAME INTO VIEW,

I COULD SEE THE GAG IN HER MOUTH,

AND HER MOUTH WAS WIDE-OPEN, ALMOST IN A SILENT SCREAM.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BONES,

YOU CALL A FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST.

THEY CAN FIND SOMETIMES WOUNDS ON BODIES

THAT A PATHOLOGIST MIGHT MISS, BASED ON WHAT'S ON A BONE.

Joe: THE ANTHROPOLOGIST TELLS STEIGER, THESE BONES

HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MONTHS,

AND REPORTS THAT, "THIS IS THE BODY OF A FEMALE,

THE REMAINS.

I HAVE SOME MUMMIFIED SKIN AVAILABLE,

SOME HAIR ON THE SOUL.

THERE ARE SOME FRAGMENTS OF CLOTHING, A PLAID SHIRT,

SEVERAL LAYERS OF CLOTHING."

ONCE AGAIN INDICATING A HOMELESS PERSON.

CAN WE ROLL THE BODY?

Steiger: WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO TURN THE BODY.

YOU COULD SEE THE FEET AND ARMS WERE TIED BEHIND HER BACK.

Joe: AND STEIGER ALMOST COLLAPSES WHEN HE SEES THAT THE WRISTS

AND ARMS ARE TIED WITH SHOELACES.

Steiger: RIGHT THEN, THE BELLS WENT OFF.

AND I SAID, "DENISE HARRIS WAS TIED UP WITH HER SHOELACES.

OLIVIA SMITH'S SHOES WERE PARTIALLY UNLACED.

THIS GIRL WAS TIED UP WITH HER SHOELACES."

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I USED THE WORD "SERIAL KILLER"

IN THIS CASE.

Joe: THERE IS NO LONGER ANY QUESTION IN HIS MIND

THAT THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT

IS FACED WITH A SERIAL KILLER.

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Steiger: NEXT TO THE BODY, THERE WAS A TOTE BAG,

AND INSIDE THE TOTE BAG,

THERE WERE SOME PAPERS.

HAD THE NAME ANTOINETTE JONES,

AND SO THAT WAS THE FIRST CLUE WHO THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

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SO, ONCE WE HAVE A NAME OF A POTENTIAL VICTIM,

THEN WE RUN THE NAME ANTOINETTE JONES

IN OUR SYSTEMS.

Joe: SHE IS A VERY SIMILAR PERSON,

IN TERMS OF HER PAST, TO THE OTHER TWO VICTIMS --

SOMEONE WHO HAS FALLEN ON HARD TIMES

AS A RESULT OF CIRCUMSTANCES IN HER OWN LIFE.

LaVoice: TO HER FAMILY, SHE WAS CALLED TONI.

SHE HAD A GREAT SINGING VOICE.

AND SHE HAD THESE BIG DREAMS OF HAVING A CAREER IN MUSIC.

SHE ENDED UP GETTING PREGNANT QUITE YOUNG

AND DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL.

BUT THINGS DID START TO LOOK LIKE

THEY WERE GOING TO WORK OUT FOR HER.

SHE MOVED TO COLORADO.

SHE'S TAKING CARE OF HERSELF AND HER DAUGHTER.

BUT THAT'S WHEN TWO REALLY HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN TO HER.

Joe: HER BROTHER SERVED IN THE FIRST IRAQ WAR,

SUFFERED PTSD FROM THAT INVOLVEMENT,

AND TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.

HER MOTHER SAID THAT ANTOINETTE COULD NOT RECOVER

FROM THE DEATH OF HER BROTHER.

ANTOINETTE HAD BEEN A RECREATIONAL DRUG USER

BEFORE THAT, BUT THEN SPIRALED

INTO A DEPRESSION AND NEVER RECOVERED FROM IT,

CAUSING HER TO WIND UP IN THE JUNGLE IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

Steiger: THEY HADN'T SEEN HER IN MONTHS,

BUT NO ONE HAD REPORTED HER MISSING.

SO WE COULDN'T FIRM IT DOWN, BUT WE WERE PRETTY SURE IT WAS

IN MID-AUGUST THAT SHE WAS KILLED.

HEY, I JUST GOT A CALL, ABOUT A THIRD VICTIM

HAVING SHOELACES TIED AROUND HER WRIST.

Steiger: I WENT UP TO THE HOMICIDE OFFICE,

WHERE MIKE CIESYNSKI WAS WORKING ON THE DENISE HARRIS CASE.

THEY HAD A CALL OUT, "DECOMPOSED BODY."

AND GUESS WHAT? SHE WAS TIED UP WITH SHOELACES.

LET'S GET THIS DOWN ON THE BOARD.

Joe: WE HAVE THREE HOMICIDES IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

TWO OF THE CASES ARE VERY SIMILAR.

GAG IN THE MOUTH,

LIGATURE ON ONE CASE,

PROBABLY THE SAME IN THE SKELETONIZED REMAINS.

NO WAY TO TELL THAT, EXCEPT THE HYOID BONE

IS CRUSHED IN THE SKELETAL REMAINS,

AND THAT INDICATES STRANGULATION.

BUT YOU CAN'T SAY LIGATURE, BUT NONETHELESS, SAME M.O.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THE THIRD CASE

IS THE M.O. GETS INTERRUPTED BY SOME METHOD OR MEANS.

AND STABBING AS THE METHOD OF DEATH.

BUT THE SHOELACES ARE PLAYED WITH.

Steiger: GEOGRAPHICALLY, THERE'S LESS THAN A MILE

BETWEEN EACH THREE SCENES, IN A TRIANGLE PATTERN.

YOU COULD BE AT ONE SCENE

AND LOOK AT BOTH OF THE OTHER SCENES FROM IT.

THAT'S WHERE THE SKELETAL REMAINS OF ANTOINETTE JONES

WAS FOUND, AND FURTHER DOWN THIS SIDE,

AND THERE'S WHERE OLIVIA.

I SAID, "I THINK WE GOT A SERIAL KILLER WORKING HERE."

Joe: HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD HE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING?

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UNKNOWN.

IS HE JUST STARTING OUT, OR HAS HE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS?

WHO IS THIS GUY?

AND HOW DO WE FIND HIM?

[ SIREN WAILS ]

Joe: WE'RE NOW AT THE POINT OF THIS INVESTIGATION

WHERE STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI BOTH KNOW

THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH ONE PERPETRATOR

WHO HAS KILLED AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE --

OLIVIA SMITH...

DENISE HARRIS...

ANTOINETTE JONES --

AND IS PROBABLY PLANNING MORE MURDERS AS WE SPEAK.

[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]

MIKE.

Steiger: THE FIRST BREAK IN THIS CASE

CAME A FEW WEEKS LATER,

MIKE CIESYNSKI GOT A CALL

FROM A GUY WHO WAS IN JAIL FOR ROBBERY.

HE SAID HE HAD SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DENISE HARRIS CASE.

GUY SAYS, "HEY, I HEAR YOU'RE THE ONE WORKING

ON THAT CASE WITH THE GIRL UP THERE IN THE JUNGLE."

Ciesynski: SAID, "YEAH, I AM."

HE GOES, "I GOT SOME INFORMATION FOR I KNOW WHO KILLED HER.

I WANT TO GET OUT OF JAIL, AND I'LL HELP YOU FIND THE GUY."

IT'S NOT QUITE THAT EASY.

TELL ME WHAT YOU GOT. I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

SAYS, "I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ELSE WOULD KNOW.

YOU NEVER FOUND HER PURSE, DID YOU?"

THAT STOPPED ME RIGHT THERE.

I'M THINKING, "NOW, HOW WOULD HE KNOW THAT?

Joe: THIS GUY SAYS, "I WAS WITH THE GUY

WHO DID THIS TO DENISE HARRIS."

NOW, THAT'S PRETTY STARTLING.

I'LL BE DOWN THERE IN A LITTLE BIT, ALRIGHT?

Ciesynski: HE GOES, "ALRIGHT, DO THAT."

BRING ME ONE OF THOSE CAPPUCCINOS, TOO."

CAPPUCCINO? I SAID, "YOU GOT IT."

♪♪

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

Joe: DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS

IS KNOWN TO THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT

FOR A LONG AND VARIED CRIMINAL HISTORY.

HE GOES BY HIS MONIKER, OR HIS STREET NAME,

WHICH IS "CHILLY WILLY,"

TAKEN FROM A CARTOON CHARACTER

OF A LITTLE PENGUIN WHO WAS COLD ALL THE TIME.

WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME?

SO, I GO AND I TALK TO THIS GUY IN JAIL.

I SAW EVERYTHING.

HE LAYS IT ALL OUT.

HE SAID, "I WAS UP THERE WITH HIM."

HE STRANGLED HER.

"HE KILLED THIS GIRL."

TIED UP WITH SHOELACES.

"TOOK HER PURSE AND THREW IT DOWN

THIS STORAGE DRAIN."

HE SAID HE WAS UP THERE WITH A GUY NAMED MIKE SMITH

AND THAT MIKE SMITH DID THIS.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE STORY?

OF COURSE.

BUT YOU GOT TO PROMISE TO GET ME OUT HERE FOR HELPING YOU.

I AIN'T MAKING ANY PROMISES.

HE'S KIND OF HEEING AND HAWING ABOUT COOPERATING.

FINE.

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

SO WE GO AND GRAB THIS GUY OUT OF JAIL,

AND SECURE A WAIST CHAIN ON HIM AND HANDCUFF HIM TO HIS SIDE

AND HE PUT A PAIR OF LEG IRONS ON HIS ANKLES.

Steiger: MY IMPRESSION WAS,

HE'S A STREETWISE GUY. HE'S A PLAYER, RIGHT?

I THOUGHT, "THIS GUY IS MORE INVOLVED IN THIS CASE

THAT HE'S ADMITTING."

Joe: STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI ASK HIM,

"CAN YOU SHOW US WHERE DENNIS HARRIS WAS KILLED?"

AND TO THEIR SHOCK AND AMAZEMENT, HE DOES.

SHE WAS RIGHT HERE, MAN. RIGHT THERE.

HE TAKES THEM THERE, TO THE EXACT SPOT

WHERE DENISE HARRIS WAS DISCOVERED.

WHERE'S THE PURSE?

IT'S BACK THERE IN THE WOODS.

Ciesynski: WE KEEP PRESSING HIM NOW

ABOUT, "WHATEVER HAPPENED TO DENISE'S PURSE?"

THERE'S NOTHING HERE.

MAN, LOOK, I DON'T KNOW.

IT WAS UP HERE, I PROMISE, MAN.

I HIT MY HEAD ON A CAN, COMING UP THROUGH HERE.

Ciesynski: HE DESCRIBES HOW HE STOOD UP

AND HE HIT HIS FOREHEAD AND THAT BEER CAN

THAT WAS IMPALED ON A TREE BRANCH.

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

CHILLY SAYS MIKE SMITH WAS HERE WITH HIM,

AND MIKE SMITH IS THE ONE KILLING,

AND MR. HARRIS IS JUST WATCHING.

I AIN'T BUYING THIS WHOLE MIKE SMITH STORY, MAN.

I DON'T KNOW, MAN. LOOK.

YOU DON'T KNOW, OR YOU'RE JUST LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING?

Steiger: I SORT OF PRESSED HIM ON IT A LITTLE BIT, AND I SAID,

"YEAH, MIKE SMITH, WHAT A B.S. NAME THAT IS.

YOU KNOW, COME ON. REALLY? THAT'S HOW YOU GOT?"

MAN, LOOK. MAN, HE REAL, I'M TELLING YOU.

Joe: SO, HARRIS GOES INTO SOME LENGTH DESCRIBING THIS MIKE SMITH

TO STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI,

AND SAID, "HE'S A BLACK MALE, HE'S IN HIS 30s,

HE HAS A MUSTACHE."

ALL KINDS OF SPECIFICS ABOUT WHO HE IS.

GET HIM OUT OF HERE.

Steiger: YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE MIKE SMITH THING,

I WAS REALLY SUSPICIOUS OF THAT.

HE WAS HERE.

Ciesynski: YOUR MIND IS JUST GOING,

IS THIS GUY PLAYING ME? I KNOW HE WAS HERE.

WAS HE HERE BY HIMSELF?

THIS OTHER GUY, THIS MIKE SMITH, I GOT TO FIND THAT GUY."

THE QUESTION WAS, IS HE JUST A WITNESS OR IS HE THE KILLER?

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

Joe: MIKE SMITH SOUNDS LIKE A MADE-UP NAME,

AND THEY GO AND FIND EVERY MIKE SMITH

THAT'S EVER BEEN ARRESTED IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

AND THEY GET A PICTURE OF HIM

AND SHOW ALL THESE PHOTOGRAPHS TO MR. HARRIS.

♪♪

HE IDENTIFIES NO ONE AS BEING MIKE SMITH.

HARRIS THEN BECOMES CONFRONTATIVE."

"WELL, I'M NOT GIVING YOU ANY MORE INFORMATION.

"FINE."WE'RE DONE HERE.

"THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOODBYE, MR. HARRIS."

[ DOOR OPENS ]

[ DOOR CLOSES ]

STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI REMAIN EXTREMELY INTERESTED

IN MR. HARRIS.

AS THEY'RE MANEUVERING AROUND THE CITY,

WORKING THIS CASE,

THEY GET A REQUEST FROM ANOTHER DETECTIVE.

HEY, JEFF.

"COULD YOU STOP AND PICK UP THIS GIRL?"

ONE OF THE OTHER DETECTIVES IS INVESTIGATING

A COMPLETELY UNRELATED CASE AND ASKS US,

"I GOT THIS LITTLE 16-YEAR-OLD GIRL.

SHE'S A WITNESS TO MY MURDER, AND I NEED TO TALK TO HER.

WOULD YOU GUYS MIND DRIVING OUT THERE AND GRABBING HER

AND BRINGING HER BACK?"GOTCHA.

AND SAID, "SURE, WE'LL DO IT."

♪♪

SHE WAS A YOUNG STREET PROSTITUTE.

ANGEL, YOU GOT TO GET OUT OF THIS LIFE.

I SAID, "YOUR GRANDPARENTS LOVE YOU VERY MUCH."

YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP GETTING HURT ONE OF THESE DAYS,

"YOU GOT TO STOP THIS.

I MEAN, YOU COULD GET HURT OUT THERE."

Ciesynski: "YEAH, YOU PROBABLY HAD

SOME REAL PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, WITH BEING ASSAULTED

BY JOHNS AND STUFF.

Steiger: "HAS ANYTHING SCARY EVER HAPPENED TO YOU?

SHE GOES, "YEAH, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

SO, I'M COMPLETELY NAKED.

AND THEN HE TRIES TO TIE ME UP WITH MY OWN SHOESTRINGS.

[ TIRES SCREECH ]WHEN SHE SAID THAT,

I LITERALLY ALMOST DROVE OFF THE BRIDGE I WAS ON.

I WENT, "HE SAID WHAT?! YOU DID WHAT?!"

ONE OF THESE GUYS HAD PICKED ME UP.

HE TRIED TO TIE ME UP WITH MY OWN SHOELACES.

"I WAS NAKED. I THINK HE WAS GOING TO KILL ME.

BUT I GOT AWAY AND RAN NAKED DOWN THE STREET."

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?

AND WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT THE TWO OF US PICK HER UP

AND SHE STARTS TALKING ABOUT THIS SERIAL KILLER

THAT WE ARE INVESTIGATING?

WHAT WAS HIS NAME?

UH, CHILLY WILLY.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

WELL, MY, MY, MY.

CHILLY WILLY.

"WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT GUY."

[ SIREN WAILS ]

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

Joe: DETECTIVES STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI

HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING THE DEATHS OF ANTOINETTE JONES,

DENISE HARRIS, AND OLIVIA SMITH

AS BEING MURDERED BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL.

Ciesynski: WE GO BACK TO OUR OFFICE.

I PUT DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS, A.K.A. CHILLY WILLY,

IN A ROOM.

HE'S JUST SITTING THERE, SMOKING A CIGARETTE,

HAVING HIS CAPPUCCINO.

AND HE LOOKS UP TO ME AND ROLLS HIS EYES AT ME.

AND HE GOES, "MIKEY MIKE, T.J., DENISE HARRIS,

I KILLED THEM.

AND THAT [BLEEP] IN THE STAIRWELL, TOO.

I KILLED THEM GIRLS."

Joe: DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS IS THEIR SERIAL KILLER.

ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT A LAWYER?

I'M SURE.

STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI KNOW,

BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE REMAINS OF ANTOINETTE JONES,

SHE WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST VICTIM

IN THE JUNGLE.

T.J., AS HE KNEW HER, RIPPED HIM OFF ONE TIME,

OF SOME DRUGS.

AND CHILLY SAYS, "IT'S ONE OF MY SPOTS."

"WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT THIS SPOT?"

"BUT NO ONE COULD HEAR YOU SCREAM."

"I JUST HIT HER. BAM."

"KNOCKED HER ON HER ASS, MAN. GOT HER UP, PUNCHED HER AGAIN.

THEY SAY I STRANGLED HER."

AND HE SAYS, "ANTOINETTE JONES TALKED TO ME

WHILE I WAS ATTACKING HER, AND SHE SAID,

'DON'T HURT ME, DON'T KILL ME. I HAVE CHILDREN.'

AND I LOOKED AT HER, AND I SAID,

'IT'S NOT TIME TO TALK ABOUT YOUR KIDS.

IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO DIE.'"

Ciesynski: HE GOES, "ACTUALLY TELL WHEN THEY'RE DYING,

WHEN YOU GOT 'EM GOOD AND THEIR EYES ARE BULGING OUT,

AND SHE PISSES HERSELF."

"THEN, SHE WAS DOWN THERE,

AND I THREW SOME CARDBOARD OVER HER."

CHILLY SAID, "I MET HER DOWNTOWN IN A BAR."

SHE CAME WALKING UP, AND HE GOES,

"WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME THEM CIGARETTES?"

SHE GOES, "WHAT YOU GOT FOR ME?"

IN HIS HAND, HE HAD A BAG OF ROCK COCAINE.

Joe: THAT'S A WEAKNESS HE CAN EXPLOIT,

BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE, "YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD."

"WELL, COME WITH ME, BECAUSE I'VE GOT A SAFE PLACE.

I HAVE A PLACE I CALL MY PLAYGROUND.

HE DOESN'T INCLUDE THE FACT THAT HIS PLAYGROUND

INVOLVES SEXUAL ASSAULT AND MURDER.

HE SAVES THAT PART.

FOR HE THEN ATTACKS AND KILLS HER,

IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY HE KILLED HIS FIRST VICTIM.

HE STRANGLES HER WITH A BELT,

TIES HER UP WITH SHOELACES.

HE HAD SEX WITH HER.

HE THOUGHT THIS WAS GREAT.

AND THEN HE MOVES ON, INTO THE JUNGLE,

WAITING FOR HIS NEXT PREY TO PRESENT THEMSELF.

DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS IS A PSYCHOPATH.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

AT ONE POINT IN MY INTERVIEW, I SAID, "DeWAYNE,

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I LET YOU WALK OUT OF HERE TODAY?"

AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID,

"YOU'D HAVE FOUR MORE BODY BAGS."

Joe: NOW, CIESYNSKI AND STEIGER ARE CURIOUS ABOUT

WHY THE DEATH OF OLIVIA SMITH WAS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT,

THAT A WEAPON WAS INVOLVED.

"TELL US ABOUT OLIVIA SMITH."

IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, HE KNOWS OLIVIA SMITH.

Steiger: WHEN HE DESCRIBED OLIVIA'S MURDER,

HE DESCRIBED LURING HER DOWN THERE WITH CRACK COCAINE.

THEY DECIDED TO GO SOMEPLACE PRIVATE.

AND HE TAKES HER TO THAT STAIRWELL.

AND THEN HE STARTS TO ATTACK HER.

[ SCREAMS ][ GRUNTS ]

AND SHE DOESN'T WANT ANY PART OF THAT.

Steiger: AND HE SAID, "I WAS GOING TO TIE HER UP.

I WAS GETTING HER SHOELACES OFF,

AND SHE PULLED A KNIFE AND SHE STABBED ME."

AND HE SAID HE WENT INTO A RAGE.

Joe: HE TAKES A KNIFE AWAY FROM HER AND JUST GOES CRAZY WITH IT.

[ SCREAMING ]

"I GOT THAT KNIFE AWAY FROM HER, AND I CUT HER THROAT.

AND THEN I STABBED HER IN THE ASS A BUNCH OF TIMES."

Joe: IN HIS MIND, HE HURTS PEOPLE.

PEOPLE DON'T HURT HIM.

REALLY?

WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR CROWN OFF YOUR HEAD

AND LOCK YOU UP UNDER A PRISON, DeWAYNE.

Steiger: DeWAYNE HARRIS WAS CHARGED

WITH THREE COUNTS OF MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE

AND ONE COUNT OF ATTEMPTED MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE.

AND HE WAS SENTENCED TO 94 YEARS IN THE STATE PENITENTIARY,

WHERE HE REMAINS TO THIS DAY.

Steiger: OLIVIA SMITH...

DENISE HARRIS...

ANTOINETTE JONES --

THEIR MOTHERS LOVE THEM.

SOME OF THEM WERE WERE MOTHERS THEMSELVES.

THEY HAVE CHILDREN, THAT LOVE THEM.

THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE. NO ONE DOES, LIKE THIS.

LaVoice: DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS TOOK AWAY THEIR SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE.

HE TOOK AWAY THEIR CHANCE TO PURSUE THEIR DREAMS

AND TO MAKE AMENDS WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHO THEY COULD HAVE BEEN,

WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE WITH THEIR LIVES.

Joe: THIS WAS A TERRIBLE SITUATION

RESOLVED BY TWO SOLID HOMICIDE DETECTIVES

WHO DID THEIR JOB,

WHO KEPT ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS,

AND SAVED ANY NUMBER OF LIVES IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.