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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,017 --> 00:00:02,669 (upbeat music playing) 2 00:00:02,702 --> 00:00:04,988 ROBIN: Tonight, just one week before the opening 3 00:00:05,021 --> 00:00:08,058 of the most anticipated movie of the year, 4 00:00:08,091 --> 00:00:11,861 the stars of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever are here… 5 00:00:11,895 --> 00:00:13,296 Yes! 6 00:00:13,329 --> 00:00:14,647 Wakanda Forever! 7 00:00:14,681 --> 00:00:19,252 ROBIN: …to celebrate and honor the brilliance of Chadwick Boseman 8 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:23,556 and to pay tribute to the legacy of a king. 9 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:27,527 When Chadwick passed away, I was broken. 10 00:00:28,261 --> 00:00:30,246 ROBIN: The powerful interview with his wife, 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,215 Simone Ledward Boseman. 12 00:00:32,248 --> 00:00:36,086 He was a leader and he was a king. 13 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:38,972 (dramatic music playing) 14 00:00:39,005 --> 00:00:41,775 ROBIN: Also, we take you inside Wakanda. 15 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:42,926 We are home. 16 00:00:42,959 --> 00:00:44,227 ROBIN: Hidden in Africa, 17 00:00:44,260 --> 00:00:47,247 a fictional world of science and technology, 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,315 with very real traditions, 19 00:00:49,349 --> 00:00:51,351 culture and challenges 20 00:00:51,384 --> 00:00:54,070 and show you how that world expanded 21 00:00:54,104 --> 00:00:57,240 to include a fictional new underwater city 22 00:00:57,273 --> 00:01:00,076 based on the traditions of Mexican culture. 23 00:01:00,110 --> 00:01:02,328 (singing Akekho Umama Ofana Naye) 24 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:06,216 ROBIN: Feel the iconic rhythms and music of Wakanda, 25 00:01:06,249 --> 00:01:10,086 how hit artists blended today's sounds with sounds of old. 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,723 RIHANNA: ♪ Lift me up… ♪ 27 00:01:16,926 --> 00:01:18,511 ROBIN: And here tonight… 28 00:01:18,545 --> 00:01:20,163 Oh, man, maybe we bit off more than we can chew. 29 00:01:20,196 --> 00:01:22,415 ROBIN: …for the first time anywhere, 30 00:01:22,449 --> 00:01:27,754 see an exclusive not yet released scene of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. 31 00:01:27,787 --> 00:01:30,790 (rock music playing) 32 00:01:34,194 --> 00:01:35,912 (indistinct chatter) 33 00:01:35,945 --> 00:01:39,732 ROBIN: In recent years, a simple two-word phrase and gesture 34 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,785 has taken on a life of its own. 35 00:01:41,818 --> 00:01:43,036 MAN: Wakanda Forever! 36 00:01:43,069 --> 00:01:44,721 Wakanda Forever! 37 00:01:44,754 --> 00:01:46,289 Wakanda Forever. 38 00:01:46,322 --> 00:01:47,740 ROBIN: Sweeping the nation. 39 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:50,877 Nobody wants to shake my hands anymore. Everybody just does this. 40 00:01:50,910 --> 00:01:54,547 Seeing people gravitate, celebrate is beautiful. 41 00:01:54,581 --> 00:01:56,883 -Action! -Wakanda Forever! 42 00:01:56,916 --> 00:01:59,185 LUPITA: The salute was being done on set. 43 00:01:59,219 --> 00:02:00,804 I was like, "Oh, that's really fly. 44 00:02:00,837 --> 00:02:02,472 That's catchy. That's good." 45 00:02:02,505 --> 00:02:03,857 FREDERICK: It's a statement, right? 46 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:06,059 You know, it-- I can't even really explain it. 47 00:02:06,092 --> 00:02:08,995 Like, you saw NBA players doing it. 48 00:02:09,028 --> 00:02:10,330 The Saturday Night Live skit. 49 00:02:10,363 --> 00:02:12,398 you know, like, showing people, like, doing it all over the place. 50 00:02:12,432 --> 00:02:15,268 -Hail Wakanda. -Hail Wakanda. 51 00:02:15,735 --> 00:02:16,753 FREDERICK: And it was--it was hilarious. 52 00:02:16,786 --> 00:02:20,473 It's a brilliant stamp that easily gets transferred to real life. 53 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:21,608 It is right over left. 54 00:02:22,525 --> 00:02:24,677 -Wakanda Forever. -Wakanda Forever. 55 00:02:24,711 --> 00:02:26,813 (tense music playing) 56 00:02:26,846 --> 00:02:29,899 ROBIN: Black Panther was more than just a superhero movie… 57 00:02:29,933 --> 00:02:32,519 -(drums thudding) -(ululates) 58 00:02:32,552 --> 00:02:34,871 ROBIN: …it was a cultural phenomenon. 59 00:02:36,005 --> 00:02:37,974 But making it wasn't always easy, 60 00:02:38,007 --> 00:02:41,427 as Director Ryan Coogler revealed when we sat down together. 61 00:02:43,446 --> 00:02:45,415 It was the hardest thing I'd ever done professionally. 62 00:02:45,448 --> 00:02:46,583 Makin' the first Panther, 63 00:02:46,616 --> 00:02:49,269 it felt like I had been off more than I can chew. 64 00:02:49,302 --> 00:02:51,271 "Imposter syndrome" some people call it. 65 00:02:51,304 --> 00:02:52,305 "I'm not ready yet. 66 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:53,656 It's too big, it's too much." 67 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:56,209 But my collaborators all… 68 00:02:56,242 --> 00:02:58,511 would constantly let me know that they trusted me. 69 00:02:59,546 --> 00:03:02,699 ROBIN: When the movie was about to be released in 2018, 70 00:03:02,732 --> 00:03:05,301 the anticipation was palpable. 71 00:03:05,335 --> 00:03:07,587 -CROWD: Lupita! Lupita! -MAN: Can I get one please? 72 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:10,423 ROBIN: It set a pre-ticket sales record 73 00:03:10,456 --> 00:03:14,077 and we saw the start of the Black Panther Challenge online. 74 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:18,081 The Black Panther Challenge is actually the largest GoFundMe in history. 75 00:03:18,114 --> 00:03:19,916 I thought about, let's see if I could figure out a way 76 00:03:19,949 --> 00:03:21,834 to help some children see the film. 77 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:25,672 ROBIN: His idea unleashed waves of joy across classrooms. 78 00:03:25,705 --> 00:03:27,640 (all singing foreign language) 79 00:03:27,674 --> 00:03:29,175 ROBIN: It raised millions 80 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:32,645 with 70,000 children watching the film for free. 81 00:03:32,679 --> 00:03:36,249 We're inviting all of you guys to come see Black Panther for free. 82 00:03:36,282 --> 00:03:37,834 (cheering) 83 00:03:37,867 --> 00:03:41,120 FREDERICK: I think that this film is a global catalyst 84 00:03:41,154 --> 00:03:43,556 for the imagination of young people. 85 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:45,642 They can literally be anything, because they see it. 86 00:03:45,675 --> 00:03:47,627 It is life-changing. 87 00:03:52,031 --> 00:03:54,017 This never are gets old. 88 00:03:54,050 --> 00:03:58,371 NNEDI: That moment where they go through that forcefield 89 00:03:58,404 --> 00:04:03,243 and then you see it open up, like, was exhilarating. 90 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:06,629 I had never seen a love letter to the Black community like that 91 00:04:06,663 --> 00:04:08,781 on a screen in this capacity. 92 00:04:09,549 --> 00:04:12,852 ROBIN: It became one of the top-grossing movies of all time, 93 00:04:12,885 --> 00:04:16,673 earning more than $1.3 billion worldwide. 94 00:04:16,706 --> 00:04:17,924 (indistinct chatter) 95 00:04:17,957 --> 00:04:22,462 It's the first comic-film nominated for best picture for the Oscars. 96 00:04:23,363 --> 00:04:25,448 JAMIL: To see this tale 97 00:04:25,481 --> 00:04:28,351 from about a made-up superhero in a made-up country, 98 00:04:28,384 --> 00:04:32,722 but based wholly in African and African-American realities, 99 00:04:32,755 --> 00:04:35,608 to see the Academy recognize that 100 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:38,845 wasn't necessarily a step forward for us, it was a step forward for them. 101 00:04:38,878 --> 00:04:39,779 (applause) 102 00:04:39,812 --> 00:04:42,582 And the Oscar goes to… 103 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:43,733 Black Panther. 104 00:04:43,766 --> 00:04:47,370 ROBIN: It did end up winning three Academy Awards for its score, 105 00:04:47,403 --> 00:04:50,023 costume and production design. 106 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:53,626 The casts also taking home a Screen Actors Guild Award. 107 00:04:54,394 --> 00:04:59,115 But this massive blockbuster actually had humble origins. 108 00:04:59,148 --> 00:05:00,600 It started with a comic book 109 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:03,303 that was never expected to amount to anything. 110 00:05:03,336 --> 00:05:05,254 Marvel comics was expanding. 111 00:05:05,288 --> 00:05:09,342 And they decided put the Black Panther in Jungle Action. 112 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:12,211 And they didn’t think it was gonna survive. 113 00:05:12,245 --> 00:05:14,580 JAMIL: The character was created by Stan Lee 114 00:05:14,614 --> 00:05:16,916 and Jack Herby in 1966. 115 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:20,636 And of course that's the same year that the Black Power movement emerges. 116 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:22,238 (crowd cheering) 117 00:05:22,271 --> 00:05:26,309 JAMIL: Civil rights movement, you have the emergence of demands 118 00:05:26,342 --> 00:05:29,696 not simply for Black freedom but for Black power. 119 00:05:29,729 --> 00:05:30,963 All power to the people! 120 00:05:30,997 --> 00:05:32,882 ALL (applauding): All power to the people. 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,904 I'm sure Jack and Stan were aware of the Black Panther party. 122 00:05:37,937 --> 00:05:40,723 But I don't know how much that influenced the character. 123 00:05:40,757 --> 00:05:42,025 I know that there's was a concern there. 124 00:05:42,058 --> 00:05:44,210 JAMIL: They changed the name of the comic to Black Leopard 125 00:05:44,243 --> 00:05:46,529 for a brief time before reverting. 126 00:05:46,562 --> 00:05:49,982 So I think there may have been initially some reticence, 127 00:05:50,016 --> 00:05:53,052 you know, about being associated with the Black Panthers 128 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:54,904 and the concept of Black Power. 129 00:05:54,937 --> 00:05:57,123 But ultimately that is what the comic is about. 130 00:05:58,141 --> 00:06:01,361 DON: I tried to make Wakanda a very separate unique place. 131 00:06:01,394 --> 00:06:04,564 And trying to keep the White people out of there 132 00:06:04,597 --> 00:06:06,199 was-- became a major fight. 133 00:06:06,232 --> 00:06:08,051 Uh, I just wouldn't do it. 134 00:06:08,084 --> 00:06:10,303 T'Challa doesn’t need anybody to come in and help him. 135 00:06:10,336 --> 00:06:12,755 He'll take care of his own problems, thank you very much. 136 00:06:12,789 --> 00:06:15,675 As a fan of the character in publishing, 137 00:06:16,409 --> 00:06:17,944 what always struck me about Black Panther is 138 00:06:17,977 --> 00:06:21,214 he's not an incredibly emotive person even on the page, 139 00:06:21,247 --> 00:06:23,433 but there's a power to him, there's a gravity. 140 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,401 ROBIN: Producer Nate Moore's idea 141 00:06:25,435 --> 00:06:28,187 was to introduce King T'Challa or Black Panther 142 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:32,592 on the big screen in 2016's Captain America: Civil War 143 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:34,544 played by Chadwick Boseman. 144 00:06:34,577 --> 00:06:36,763 He shows up. Boom! 145 00:06:36,796 --> 00:06:40,249 And I know now in hindsight, he thought it was a cameo. 146 00:06:42,085 --> 00:06:43,970 But we were interested in doing a stand-alone movie. 147 00:06:45,521 --> 00:06:46,489 FREDERICK: You see the scene. 148 00:06:46,522 --> 00:06:49,909 And bullets are bouncing off of the Black Panther. 149 00:06:51,027 --> 00:06:52,662 People lost it. 150 00:06:52,695 --> 00:06:54,764 In a world where we are protesting 151 00:06:54,797 --> 00:06:56,949 for no bullets to be aimed at a Black person, 152 00:06:56,983 --> 00:07:00,853 to see them bounce off from a police helicopter, 153 00:07:01,621 --> 00:07:02,738 that's something special. 154 00:07:03,689 --> 00:07:07,860 JAMIL: It's not surprising to see that the public would demand 155 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:09,262 more of that character. 156 00:07:10,229 --> 00:07:11,514 RHODEY: Your Highness. 157 00:07:12,198 --> 00:07:15,418 ROBIN: The public got what they wanted and so much more. 158 00:07:15,451 --> 00:07:19,272 The movie and its ripple effects were felt across the globe, 159 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:21,441 as I saw in my visit to Ghana. 160 00:07:22,592 --> 00:07:26,012 Talking with Danai Gurira who grew up in Africa 161 00:07:26,045 --> 00:07:29,065 and is a fierceWakandan warrior in the movie. 162 00:07:29,098 --> 00:07:30,733 Why do you feel it had such an impact? 163 00:07:30,766 --> 00:07:33,986 It really is that moment where the world is ready for something 164 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:35,571 they might not be aware they're ready for. 165 00:07:35,605 --> 00:07:38,891 The world was ready to really take in Africa 166 00:07:38,925 --> 00:07:39,959 in a whole new way. 167 00:07:39,992 --> 00:07:43,663 In a way that shows our specificity, our excellence, 168 00:07:43,696 --> 00:07:47,283 our diversity, our coolness, you know. 169 00:07:47,316 --> 00:07:50,870 You have college courses being taught about Black Panther 170 00:07:50,903 --> 00:07:52,455 and the themes within the film. 171 00:07:52,488 --> 00:07:53,890 It's brilliant. 172 00:07:53,923 --> 00:07:57,877 Sometimes you're allowed to tell stories only within a certain box, 173 00:07:57,910 --> 00:08:01,497 but with Panther, we blew the lid off of that box. 174 00:08:01,531 --> 00:08:02,365 Is this what you wanted? 175 00:08:02,398 --> 00:08:04,433 FREDERICK: It opened the door for Shang-Chi to exist. 176 00:08:04,467 --> 00:08:08,104 It opened a door, in my opinion, for the success of Crazy Rich Asians. 177 00:08:08,137 --> 00:08:10,673 It opened the door for The Woman King. 178 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,911 With Black Panther, it is a phenomenon 179 00:08:14,944 --> 00:08:18,714 in every way: the box office, culturally, critically. 180 00:08:18,748 --> 00:08:24,537 Did you feel pressure, expectations for the second one? 181 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:26,088 Of course, of course. 182 00:08:26,122 --> 00:08:29,408 Um, I felt humbled to be asked back to do another one, you know. 183 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:30,326 It's not a guarantee. 184 00:08:31,077 --> 00:08:32,595 But I knew I wanted to do it. 185 00:08:33,229 --> 00:08:35,915 And I have to say the way that you were able to introduce 186 00:08:35,948 --> 00:08:38,551 a new world, new characters. 187 00:08:38,584 --> 00:08:40,620 I started… started to have that familiar feeling of, like, "Oh man, 188 00:08:40,653 --> 00:08:42,555 man, maybe we bit off more than we can chew," you know, 189 00:08:42,588 --> 00:08:45,041 like when we were-- we were developing Talokan. 190 00:08:45,074 --> 00:08:48,711 ROBIN: Not only did he help create the underwater nation of Talokan 191 00:08:48,744 --> 00:08:51,013 for the film Wakanda Forever, 192 00:08:51,047 --> 00:08:55,351 Ryan also brought in a cast of international actors. 193 00:08:55,384 --> 00:08:58,538 When I was a kid in Mexico, I never dreamed of something like this. 194 00:08:59,238 --> 00:09:01,691 Namor is the ruler of Talokan. 195 00:09:02,391 --> 00:09:06,095 This character is based on indigenous cultures, 196 00:09:06,128 --> 00:09:09,799 Mesoamerican cultures, especially Mayan cultures. 197 00:09:09,832 --> 00:09:13,569 One of the biggest messages in this movie is that 198 00:09:13,603 --> 00:09:17,557 it's time to heal the breaks in the heart 199 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:20,009 and embrace who we are. 200 00:09:20,943 --> 00:09:23,062 This movie changed my own story. 201 00:09:23,095 --> 00:09:26,599 You know, when I start this movie, I didn't even speak English. 202 00:09:26,632 --> 00:09:30,786 And it's beautiful, this Talokan world. 203 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:33,789 Actually, we heard an indigenous language. 204 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,142 As a Mexican woman with this face 205 00:09:36,175 --> 00:09:41,681 to see myself for the first time in a big screen is like wonderful. 206 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:44,250 This is probably one of the most diverse casts 207 00:09:44,283 --> 00:09:46,202 that we've seen with this kind of budget. 208 00:09:46,869 --> 00:09:51,674 TEMS: ♪ Ere, little darling don't shed no tear ♪ 209 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:55,911 There's something truly universal about this story. 210 00:09:55,945 --> 00:09:58,414 As we allow this story to touch our hearts. 211 00:09:59,765 --> 00:10:01,984 FREDERICK: I watched the teaser the first time. 212 00:10:02,318 --> 00:10:06,589 I missed Chadwick Boseman immediately. 213 00:10:06,622 --> 00:10:10,493 When Chadwick passed away, I was broken. 214 00:10:10,526 --> 00:10:16,682 And so we all are being invited to experience the story, 215 00:10:16,716 --> 00:10:19,919 and seek the hope we all need. 216 00:10:19,952 --> 00:10:23,356 And hopefully in the process, we've paid tribute to Chadwick, 217 00:10:23,389 --> 00:10:25,274 and we've furthered his legacy. 218 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:28,728 What do you feel his legacy will be? 219 00:10:35,818 --> 00:10:38,087 It can't be defined to a sentence… 220 00:10:39,855 --> 00:10:41,791 soundbite, or--or--or a film. 221 00:10:41,824 --> 00:10:43,075 (crying) 222 00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:49,165 Forgive me. 223 00:10:49,198 --> 00:10:50,566 No apology necessary. 224 00:10:51,767 --> 00:10:54,453 He had these giant hands, like, uh… 225 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:56,088 (chuckles, sniffles) 226 00:10:56,122 --> 00:10:56,956 …massive. 227 00:10:56,989 --> 00:11:00,076 And--and-- and that's what I think about with him, 228 00:11:00,109 --> 00:11:05,214 is--is his--is his reach like, across history. 229 00:11:05,781 --> 00:11:08,701 You know, pullin' us up, 230 00:11:08,734 --> 00:11:11,187 pullin' us backwards for--for what we should know. 231 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:13,489 And, um--and pullin' us forward. 232 00:11:14,457 --> 00:11:16,909 That's--that's what I think his legacy is. 233 00:11:16,942 --> 00:11:18,544 Thank you. Thank you. 234 00:11:18,577 --> 00:11:19,729 -Thank you. -ROBIN: Thank you. 235 00:11:19,762 --> 00:11:23,933 My momma used to say, "I feel him on his heavenly balcony, 236 00:11:23,966 --> 00:11:28,337 going, 'Thank you, carry on, carry on.'" 237 00:11:28,371 --> 00:11:29,221 Thank you. 238 00:11:36,145 --> 00:11:38,147 (dramatic music playing) 239 00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:40,850 You know, we had already introduced 240 00:11:40,883 --> 00:11:44,270 audiences to the world of Wakanda cinematically. 241 00:11:44,303 --> 00:11:47,406 And we wanted to-- to get deeper into Wakanda, 242 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,407 get deeper into the characters. 243 00:11:48,441 --> 00:11:51,844 But at the same time, give audiences that same feelin' of bein' introduced 244 00:11:51,877 --> 00:11:54,063 to something new, to a new place. 245 00:11:54,096 --> 00:11:56,932 KELLEY: In this new film, I think we get more Wakanda. 246 00:11:56,966 --> 00:12:00,569 I mean, we definitely see all of the science tech advances 247 00:12:00,603 --> 00:12:05,491 that every other country, you know, in the world wants to get their hands on. 248 00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:08,160 But we also see the people. 249 00:12:08,194 --> 00:12:12,948 I really became more detailed and focused on their traditions, their culture. 250 00:12:12,982 --> 00:12:15,267 What are some of the things that they are challenged with? 251 00:12:15,935 --> 00:12:19,221 Wakanda Forever represents this nation of Afrofuturism 252 00:12:19,255 --> 00:12:21,507 that really centers the continent of Africa 253 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:23,175 in the tech space. 254 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:26,328 Afrofuturism is taking an idea 255 00:12:26,362 --> 00:12:31,000 or the thing that happened and reimagining the sci-fi fiction 256 00:12:31,033 --> 00:12:33,202 behind what would have happened. 257 00:12:33,235 --> 00:12:37,056 You see these young, Black, tech geniuses, 258 00:12:37,089 --> 00:12:41,427 that really are, like, the smartest people on the planet, in this film. 259 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:43,763 And that's something we've never seen before 260 00:12:43,796 --> 00:12:45,631 in any movie, period. 261 00:12:45,664 --> 00:12:49,935 The STEM, everyone talks about how women are not bright when it comes to that. 262 00:12:49,969 --> 00:12:53,389 And at the forefront, Shuri is there. 263 00:12:53,422 --> 00:12:56,325 Can you tell folks what's--what's new technology… 264 00:12:56,358 --> 00:12:59,161 -Oh, technology wise, what's new? -Yeah, the new inventions and things. 265 00:12:59,195 --> 00:13:00,830 You'll see new vehicles, 266 00:13:00,863 --> 00:13:03,349 you'll see, um, new applied sciences. 267 00:13:03,599 --> 00:13:06,519 You'll see a lotta, uh, robotic engineering, 268 00:13:06,552 --> 00:13:08,554 rocket engineering, nanotechnology. 269 00:13:08,587 --> 00:13:09,622 I mean, you'll see it all. 270 00:13:09,655 --> 00:13:12,107 Bullet wounds don't just magically heal overnight. 271 00:13:12,541 --> 00:13:14,860 (chuckles) They do here. 272 00:13:14,894 --> 00:13:17,463 But not by magic, by technology. 273 00:13:18,581 --> 00:13:19,799 NNEDI: Shuri in the comics, 274 00:13:19,832 --> 00:13:23,135 she has a lot of really mystical powers, 275 00:13:23,169 --> 00:13:24,787 and then the Shuri in the film 276 00:13:24,820 --> 00:13:26,505 is a genius engineer who creates 277 00:13:26,539 --> 00:13:29,458 all of these different technologies for her brother, 278 00:13:29,492 --> 00:13:31,744 but she has her own aspirations too. 279 00:13:31,777 --> 00:13:34,380 Shuri's way of dealing 280 00:13:34,413 --> 00:13:37,333 with what she's going through, 281 00:13:37,366 --> 00:13:40,402 is to bury herself into new technology. 282 00:13:40,436 --> 00:13:44,323 She's always thinking of ways to protect not only her nation, 283 00:13:44,356 --> 00:13:47,409 but those who have to go to fight on behalf of her nation. 284 00:13:47,443 --> 00:13:50,830 There's futurism but there's also a respect 285 00:13:50,863 --> 00:13:52,815 of honoring the past, 286 00:13:52,848 --> 00:13:56,952 so there's a moment when she has to just take Shuri, 287 00:13:56,986 --> 00:13:58,687 let go all of the technology 288 00:13:58,721 --> 00:14:00,623 and we have to just sit 289 00:14:00,656 --> 00:14:03,943 and deal with the experience of life. 290 00:14:03,976 --> 00:14:07,313 Shuri in the--in the first film was a mentee 291 00:14:07,346 --> 00:14:08,631 of her--of her older brother. 292 00:14:08,664 --> 00:14:11,050 And in this film, she gets to play mentor 293 00:14:11,083 --> 00:14:13,469 to another young scientist, and that relationship that-- 294 00:14:13,502 --> 00:14:16,822 seein' those two characters kinda bounce ideas off of each other 295 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,958 was, uh, really a blast to direct, 296 00:14:18,991 --> 00:14:20,609 and I'm lookin' forward to people seein' it. 297 00:14:22,094 --> 00:14:25,564 Wakanda planted a seed of what is possible. 298 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:27,566 We can't go back in time. 299 00:14:28,601 --> 00:14:31,887 However, we can pull from it 300 00:14:31,921 --> 00:14:33,622 some of the strength. 301 00:14:33,656 --> 00:14:35,524 NNEDI: Things don't get done 302 00:14:35,558 --> 00:14:37,693 until you can imagine them first. 303 00:14:37,726 --> 00:14:39,929 That is the role of storytellers. 304 00:14:39,962 --> 00:14:41,881 That is the role of science fiction. 305 00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:44,533 It's about envisioning a future with us in it. 306 00:14:45,017 --> 00:14:48,120 RUTH: We are thinking about how we can move 307 00:14:48,153 --> 00:14:51,657 the African diaspora into the future, 308 00:14:51,690 --> 00:14:54,276 with technology, with science, 309 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:56,428 with culture with art, 310 00:14:56,462 --> 00:14:58,914 and Afrofuture combines all of that. 311 00:14:59,832 --> 00:15:02,818 We wanted it to be as tangible and real 312 00:15:02,851 --> 00:15:04,820 and evolved as possible, 313 00:15:04,853 --> 00:15:06,822 but still be familiar, right. 314 00:15:06,855 --> 00:15:08,507 We don't want it to be, you know, 315 00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:11,510 100 years in the future and nobody understands what's going on. 316 00:15:11,543 --> 00:15:14,213 Black Panther helped to elevate Afrofuturism 317 00:15:14,246 --> 00:15:17,232 and have us talking about it in louder ways 318 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:18,417 than probably we were before. 319 00:15:18,450 --> 00:15:20,402 After this movie, Wakanda Forever, 320 00:15:20,436 --> 00:15:22,621 there'll be two discussions coming out. 321 00:15:23,355 --> 00:15:27,276 You're gonna have the continuing discussion of Afrofuturism. 322 00:15:27,309 --> 00:15:29,695 But then you will see the work of other authors 323 00:15:29,728 --> 00:15:32,915 that have talked about Chicano-Chicanafuturism. 324 00:15:32,948 --> 00:15:34,934 There is Latino futurism. 325 00:15:34,967 --> 00:15:36,819 We were being influenced by that. 326 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:40,072 Seeing two different groups of brown people on screen 327 00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:43,375 in Wakanda Forever is… 328 00:15:45,494 --> 00:15:46,495 colossal. 329 00:15:47,830 --> 00:15:49,531 ROBIN: Across the globe we are seeing 330 00:15:49,565 --> 00:15:51,850 the next generation of storytellers 331 00:15:51,884 --> 00:15:54,620 and visual artists using technology 332 00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:58,524 to tell their stories in a way we've never seen before. 333 00:15:59,224 --> 00:16:02,911 It feels great to know that people have looked at Wakanda 334 00:16:02,945 --> 00:16:07,032 and taken inspiration to create and innovate and discover. 335 00:16:07,566 --> 00:16:09,885 DAVID: Using technology, using software, 336 00:16:09,918 --> 00:16:12,504 using all these new media, allows more artists 337 00:16:12,538 --> 00:16:15,891 to develop, and opens the door to various forms of art 338 00:16:15,924 --> 00:16:19,278 that, especially from Africa and from the diaspora, 339 00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:21,130 are not represented enough. 340 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:23,699 MICHELLE: As an artist I'm always trying to look 341 00:16:23,732 --> 00:16:26,318 into different ways of telling stories. 342 00:16:26,352 --> 00:16:29,705 You know, the VR technology is kind of like a step forward 343 00:16:29,738 --> 00:16:31,790 into, um, the future. 344 00:16:34,176 --> 00:16:36,261 ROBIN: This big screen inspiration 345 00:16:36,295 --> 00:16:40,149 now leading the way for the next generation of creators. 346 00:16:40,599 --> 00:16:44,053 It was definitely, uh, like a stepping stone for me. 347 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:46,538 Like maybe one day I could be someone 348 00:16:46,572 --> 00:16:49,208 who's creating things as big as that. 349 00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:51,493 It reminds me of how else people-- 350 00:16:51,527 --> 00:16:54,563 these are the only thing we blessed with, the hands. 351 00:16:54,596 --> 00:16:57,316 We need to use them to create possible futures, 352 00:16:57,349 --> 00:16:59,768 to create our own realities, 353 00:16:59,802 --> 00:17:03,122 to create everything that we imagine. 354 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:05,507 LETITIA: I always want to inspire through my work. 355 00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:07,976 For it to touch people's hearts… 356 00:17:09,278 --> 00:17:10,696 means that we did something right. 357 00:17:11,714 --> 00:17:14,516 ROBIN: Did you ever imagine that you would create 358 00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:18,003 this world that resonates with so many people? 359 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,505 It's beyond my wildest imagination. 360 00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:21,673 I feel like I was blessed to be able 361 00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:24,076 to be in the right place at the right time, 362 00:17:24,109 --> 00:17:26,395 um, to have the ability-- 363 00:17:26,428 --> 00:17:29,732 to have the job of adapting Wakanda to the screen. 364 00:17:29,765 --> 00:17:31,734 Never dreamt 365 00:17:31,767 --> 00:17:34,620 that I would ever be a part of something like this. 366 00:17:34,653 --> 00:17:37,139 And I knew the first time 367 00:17:37,172 --> 00:17:39,274 I turned on the Skype 368 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:42,394 and looked at Ryan's face and we talked, 369 00:17:43,345 --> 00:17:44,713 "This is gonna change everything." 370 00:17:45,247 --> 00:17:47,282 (upbeat music playing) 371 00:17:47,316 --> 00:17:50,502 ROBIN: Before Black Panther was even released in 2018, 372 00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:53,439 the fashion in the film sparked an obsession 373 00:17:53,472 --> 00:17:54,973 all over social media. 374 00:17:56,925 --> 00:17:58,494 The woman who lit the flame? 375 00:17:58,527 --> 00:18:01,830 Creator and legendary costume designer, 376 00:18:01,864 --> 00:18:03,065 Ruth E. Carter. 377 00:18:03,098 --> 00:18:04,950 (chanting) 378 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,337 JAMIL: The scene where T'Challa is first going to face a challenge, 379 00:18:08,370 --> 00:18:11,006 you're seeing all of the different tribes of Wakanda 380 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,241 on the side of this mountain, 381 00:18:12,274 --> 00:18:14,276 it still gives me chills just thinking about it. 382 00:18:14,309 --> 00:18:16,979 I, M'baku, 383 00:18:18,247 --> 00:18:19,998 leader of the Jabari, wish to-- 384 00:18:20,032 --> 00:18:22,584 I accept your challenge. 385 00:18:25,854 --> 00:18:27,322 TANISH: She really is the blueprint 386 00:18:27,356 --> 00:18:29,975 for a lot of other Black costume designers. 387 00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:32,277 -MAN: Right here, babe. -(cameras clicking) 388 00:18:32,311 --> 00:18:33,862 ROBIN: For over 30 years, 389 00:18:33,896 --> 00:18:37,032 Carter has designed costumes for such films as Selma… 390 00:18:37,065 --> 00:18:40,269 MAN: What happens when a man stands up, says, "Enough is enough"? 391 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,321 ROBIN: …Amistad… 392 00:18:42,354 --> 00:18:45,407 MAN: I will call into the past and beg my ancestors 393 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,542 to come and help me. 394 00:18:46,575 --> 00:18:47,576 ROBIN: …and Malcolm X. 395 00:18:47,609 --> 00:18:48,877 This is who you are. 396 00:18:48,911 --> 00:18:49,928 Beautiful. 397 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:51,697 Your beautiful black selves 398 00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:53,298 with pride and dignity. 399 00:18:53,332 --> 00:18:55,567 Ruth E. Carter. 400 00:18:55,601 --> 00:18:56,602 (laughs) 401 00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:58,153 Were you familiar with her work from an early age? 402 00:18:58,187 --> 00:19:00,839 Of course. Oh, yeah. I grew up--I grew up watching--yeah. 403 00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:01,874 I grew up watching her work. 404 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:06,161 RUTH: Black Panther was a full-circle moment 405 00:19:06,195 --> 00:19:09,064 because making those costumes 406 00:19:09,097 --> 00:19:15,270 required that I pull in everything I have ever done. 407 00:19:15,304 --> 00:19:17,956 (chanting) 408 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:21,243 ROBIN: Carter worked closely with Coogler to develop the costumes 409 00:19:21,276 --> 00:19:23,378 and it all started with a blanket. 410 00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:27,966 All of our research trips informed us a lot. 411 00:19:28,851 --> 00:19:31,153 My initial trip, I was in South Africa, in Lesotho. 412 00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:35,941 RUTH: When he returned, he remembered these beautiful blankets 413 00:19:35,974 --> 00:19:40,128 that were the indicator of their tribe 414 00:19:40,162 --> 00:19:44,149 and they had been with them for hundreds of years. 415 00:19:44,183 --> 00:19:45,317 Border Tribe. 416 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:49,271 RUTH: And then we printed Vibranium on one side, 417 00:19:49,304 --> 00:19:51,540 so that they could be used as shields. 418 00:19:53,675 --> 00:19:55,594 ROBIN: The visual style Carter developed 419 00:19:55,627 --> 00:20:00,465 mixes and celebrates traditional and contemporary African design. 420 00:20:01,833 --> 00:20:07,356 TANISHA: She literally scoured the earth for the garments in this film. 421 00:20:07,389 --> 00:20:10,275 She went to various parts of the African continent… 422 00:20:12,694 --> 00:20:16,231 to work with some of the most skilled craftspeople 423 00:20:16,265 --> 00:20:19,601 and also to educate herself on the various ethnic groups 424 00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:21,320 across the African continent. 425 00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:25,207 ROBIN: Marvel had a design for T'challa's Black Panther suit 426 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,210 but Carter put a unique stamp on it. 427 00:20:28,243 --> 00:20:30,979 One of the things that was important to me 428 00:20:31,013 --> 00:20:36,318 was that he have symbols on his suit 429 00:20:36,351 --> 00:20:39,288 that would connect him to Africa. 430 00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:45,277 You see that triangle in so much of the art of Africa 431 00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:46,428 throughout the continent. 432 00:20:46,461 --> 00:20:48,480 And the Oscar goes to… 433 00:20:49,031 --> 00:20:50,899 ROBIN: For her groundbreaking work, 434 00:20:50,933 --> 00:20:55,053 Carter became the first African-American costume designer 435 00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:56,505 to win an Oscar. 436 00:20:56,538 --> 00:20:57,990 Wow. 437 00:20:58,557 --> 00:21:00,325 This has been a long time coming. 438 00:21:01,076 --> 00:21:04,413 Marvel may have created the first Black superhero, 439 00:21:04,446 --> 00:21:10,068 but through costume design we turned him into an African king. 440 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:11,470 (cheers and applause) 441 00:21:11,503 --> 00:21:13,989 ROBIN: In Wakanda Forever, 442 00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:16,091 we'll see some familiar costumes 443 00:21:16,124 --> 00:21:20,629 but this time, Carter's work is even bigger and bolder. 444 00:21:20,662 --> 00:21:24,099 She really can make you, like, click into place 445 00:21:24,132 --> 00:21:25,500 with the costume she puts you in. 446 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:26,969 She's a storyteller first. 447 00:21:27,002 --> 00:21:29,304 Take her to the River Province to prepare her for the ceremony. 448 00:21:29,338 --> 00:21:31,673 RUTH: The Dora Milaje, 449 00:21:31,707 --> 00:21:36,411 their costume honors many regions of Africa. 450 00:21:36,445 --> 00:21:38,947 This is Dora Milaje, right here. 451 00:21:38,981 --> 00:21:44,419 There's a harness which is inspired by the Turkana tribe. 452 00:21:44,453 --> 00:21:48,140 Neck rings and arm rings inspired by the Ndebele. 453 00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:53,161 Leather inspired by the Himba tribe of Mali. 454 00:21:53,762 --> 00:21:57,666 ROBIN: Queen Ramonda appears in a series of spectacular 455 00:21:57,699 --> 00:22:00,018 3D printed crowns. 456 00:22:01,286 --> 00:22:03,672 RUTH: She wears this isicholo. 457 00:22:03,705 --> 00:22:06,641 Here is Ramonda's hat from Wakanda. 458 00:22:06,675 --> 00:22:09,845 That is the South African married woman's hat. 459 00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:14,733 They're so resplendent, so regal that they-- 460 00:22:14,766 --> 00:22:17,936 they really helped me grasp onto the character. 461 00:22:17,969 --> 00:22:20,672 The headdress is 3D-printed, 462 00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:23,342 very, very, expensive. (laughs) 463 00:22:23,375 --> 00:22:26,211 ROBIN: Carter also faced her greatest challenge yet, 464 00:22:26,244 --> 00:22:30,649 creating costumes for the underwater world of Talokan. 465 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:36,238 The Talokanil is a imagined world of people 466 00:22:36,271 --> 00:22:39,191 who left the Mayan civilization 467 00:22:39,224 --> 00:22:42,561 and created one in the ocean. 468 00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:46,381 The production, they hired some advisors. 469 00:22:46,415 --> 00:22:49,267 These guys are scholars. 470 00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:50,569 They are Mayans. 471 00:22:50,602 --> 00:22:54,606 They directed us to the pottery 472 00:22:54,639 --> 00:22:57,793 that the Mayans painted, 473 00:22:57,826 --> 00:22:59,911 the hieroglyphics. 474 00:23:00,946 --> 00:23:03,882 TENOCH: They took so long to create this costume 475 00:23:03,915 --> 00:23:08,804 because they have to know exactly what was the meaning of each element. 476 00:23:08,837 --> 00:23:12,207 For example, in the helmet, you know, is the feather serpent. 477 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,861 These costumes change the story for our people. 478 00:23:15,894 --> 00:23:19,014 -it's so amazing for the representation. -Amazing. 479 00:23:19,047 --> 00:23:24,369 We also went to historians and experts 480 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:27,539 that could tell us about the evolution underwater. 481 00:23:27,572 --> 00:23:31,693 We used fish bones and we used fish fins. 482 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,649 The lionfish fins that Namora wears are very large. 483 00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:40,068 The headpiece is--it's a lot. 484 00:23:40,102 --> 00:23:42,788 You can't swim with the headpiece. 485 00:23:42,821 --> 00:23:44,506 It was heavy. So we have different versions 486 00:23:44,539 --> 00:23:47,242 if I have to move too much under the water. 487 00:23:48,693 --> 00:23:50,579 ROBIN: With stories like these emerging, 488 00:23:51,046 --> 00:23:53,198 the anticipation only grows 489 00:23:53,231 --> 00:23:56,685 to see Carter's wearable art on screen again 490 00:23:56,718 --> 00:24:00,021 and to answer the question… 491 00:24:00,755 --> 00:24:05,977 Who is gonna be donning that majestic, symbolic, 492 00:24:06,011 --> 00:24:10,165 important piece of costume that Chadwick did? 493 00:24:10,198 --> 00:24:12,884 You know, I don't wanna give it away before folks see it, 494 00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:15,770 but what I will say is, um, 495 00:24:15,804 --> 00:24:19,040 the person who ends up putting on, earns it through the film 496 00:24:19,074 --> 00:24:22,027 and, you know, uh, I hope people enjoy it. 497 00:24:27,365 --> 00:24:29,784 Well, speaking of music, it's like a separate character… 498 00:24:29,818 --> 00:24:31,203 -RYAN: Uh-huh. - …in the film. 499 00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:32,487 -RYAN: Yeah. -And Ludwig… 500 00:24:32,521 --> 00:24:35,006 RYAN: We met in school at USC 501 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,342 and I heard him score something for, like, one of my classmates 502 00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:38,643 and it--it blew my mind. 503 00:24:38,677 --> 00:24:41,546 ROBIN: Composer Ludwig Göransson, 504 00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:45,333 the mind behind Black Panther's Grammy and Oscar-winning score. 505 00:24:46,868 --> 00:24:49,838 Its synergy of hip-hop and traditional African beats, 506 00:24:49,871 --> 00:24:52,424 bringing Wakanda to life… 507 00:24:52,457 --> 00:24:55,060 The only way to do that would be to go to Africa 508 00:24:55,093 --> 00:24:58,797 and work with artists and instrumentalists from the continent. 509 00:24:59,247 --> 00:25:02,350 ROBIN: Senegal would be Göransson's first stop. 510 00:25:02,384 --> 00:25:06,371 There, he connected with singer and guitarist Baaba Maal, 511 00:25:06,404 --> 00:25:08,590 who would invite him to watch his tour. 512 00:25:08,623 --> 00:25:13,295 I think it was a good thing to do because by following my band 513 00:25:13,328 --> 00:25:16,498 and how the people organize the concerts that start sometime 514 00:25:16,531 --> 00:25:18,800 at two o'clock in the--the night. 515 00:25:18,833 --> 00:25:20,585 It's very ceremonial. 516 00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:22,287 The women put their jewelries, 517 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,057 their nice clothes, indigos, all the colors. 518 00:25:26,091 --> 00:25:27,342 The energy's crazy. 519 00:25:27,375 --> 00:25:29,844 And he comes out in his traditional clothing 520 00:25:29,878 --> 00:25:31,846 and starts singing this--this opening hymn 521 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,549 and I had, you know, goosebumps all over my body. 522 00:25:34,583 --> 00:25:36,751 ROBIN: Maal's trumpeting vocals 523 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:39,754 which can be heard from villages miles away 524 00:25:39,788 --> 00:25:43,408 introduce the hidden kingdom on the song "Wakanda". 525 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:46,628 (singing in Fula) 526 00:25:46,661 --> 00:25:47,996 OKOYE: Sister Nakia, 527 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:49,731 my prince… 528 00:25:50,916 --> 00:25:52,250 we are home. 529 00:25:53,418 --> 00:25:55,203 LUDWIG: Baaba Maal is singing about 530 00:25:55,237 --> 00:25:57,239 an elephant that's died 531 00:25:57,272 --> 00:25:59,591 and the elephant being a synonym for a king. 532 00:25:59,624 --> 00:26:01,276 When a big elephant die, 533 00:26:01,910 --> 00:26:05,397 it's always a young elephant who will come to lead all the others. 534 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:08,099 A new king will be chosen, 535 00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:09,834 which is the young T'Challa. 536 00:26:09,868 --> 00:26:11,903 This never gets old. 537 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,926 (epic music playing) 538 00:26:23,982 --> 00:26:26,601 ROBIN: These drumming "Sounds of the King" 539 00:26:26,635 --> 00:26:30,405 played by tama master Massamba Diop. 540 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,310 One of the most fascinating instruments to me was the talking drum. 541 00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:39,664 It's a drum that sounds like a voice that you can actually talk with. 542 00:26:39,698 --> 00:26:41,116 That was the first type of telephone. 543 00:26:41,149 --> 00:26:44,669 And when we came back and come to the studio in Dakar 544 00:26:44,703 --> 00:26:46,588 and to bring all the musicians, 545 00:26:46,621 --> 00:26:50,575 I remember when we was recording the talking drums 546 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:52,460 with different microphones, 547 00:26:52,494 --> 00:26:55,246 Ludwig was right there in the middle. 548 00:26:57,482 --> 00:27:00,719 We have many Senegalese people all around the world. 549 00:27:00,752 --> 00:27:03,171 When they went to see Black Panther, 550 00:27:03,204 --> 00:27:06,124 they all say, "Wow, this is our culture. 551 00:27:06,157 --> 00:27:07,275 This is what we know." 552 00:27:07,309 --> 00:27:08,710 ROBIN: Göransson's next stop 553 00:27:08,743 --> 00:27:11,946 would be the International Library of African Music 554 00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:15,050 so we had our cameras follow his footsteps. 555 00:27:17,002 --> 00:27:21,589 LUDWIG: It was the biggest collection of recorded African music in the world. 556 00:27:21,623 --> 00:27:24,743 So I went there to be able to listen to 557 00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:27,946 as many different recordings as I could. 558 00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:29,964 And a lot of that music doesn't exist anymore. 559 00:27:29,998 --> 00:27:32,901 ROBIN: The library organized a musical performance 560 00:27:32,934 --> 00:27:35,120 by South African healers 561 00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:37,389 to simulate Göransson's exposure 562 00:27:37,422 --> 00:27:41,192 to traditional African performances that communicate a story. 563 00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:44,129 As they are dancing, 564 00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:46,765 they are breaking the foundations of those prisons. 565 00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:48,600 Their ancestors will be free. 566 00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:54,389 The first song that the Amagqirha sang is Akekho Umama Ofana Naye, 567 00:27:54,923 --> 00:27:57,692 which means "There's no mother like her." 568 00:27:57,726 --> 00:28:00,729 (singing Akekho Umama Ofana Naye) 569 00:28:15,377 --> 00:28:18,213 BAABA: African music, you have to understand it, 570 00:28:18,246 --> 00:28:21,583 like something that calls people to collaborate, 571 00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:25,937 this is what makes African music always in a movement. 572 00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:29,224 (drum beating) 573 00:28:29,257 --> 00:28:32,243 (all chanting) 574 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:36,931 (speaks Xhosa) 575 00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:38,733 (all speak speaks Xhosa) 576 00:28:43,505 --> 00:28:47,041 MIKE: "All The Stars" is the first song that I think about 577 00:28:47,075 --> 00:28:48,626 when I think about Black Panther. 578 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:53,531 ROBIN: Afrofuturism takes center stage in Kendrick Lamar's chart-topping album 579 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:55,834 that he curated for the movie's soundtrack. 580 00:28:55,867 --> 00:29:00,371 That first Black Panther soundtrack went number one on the Billboard Top 200. 581 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:01,856 Probably because of Kendrick Lamar. 582 00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:06,394 MIKE: Kendrick sits on the cusp of so many intersectionalities 583 00:29:06,428 --> 00:29:09,047 of different stylings of hip hop, 584 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,901 from hip hop music to world music to Afrobeats. 585 00:29:13,568 --> 00:29:17,989 There's something beautiful about what's happening with Afrobeats right now, 586 00:29:18,022 --> 00:29:20,775 you saw people dancing here in the United States to Afrobeats 587 00:29:20,809 --> 00:29:25,363 and you saw people dancing in South Africa to Afrobeats outside of a movie theater. 588 00:29:25,396 --> 00:29:26,931 (crowd cheering) 589 00:29:26,965 --> 00:29:30,151 ROBIN: So how could they follow Black Panther's iconic sound 590 00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:31,686 in Wakanda Forever? 591 00:29:31,719 --> 00:29:33,838 We didn't wanna try to reinvent the wheel, 592 00:29:33,872 --> 00:29:36,341 you know, we didn't wanna try to recapture lightning in a bottle on this one. 593 00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:40,695 So we went into it being more open to having lots of artists 594 00:29:40,728 --> 00:29:42,230 and representation from all over the world. 595 00:29:42,263 --> 00:29:46,634 We had African and Afrobeats and Afro pop represent Wakanda, 596 00:29:46,668 --> 00:29:51,406 and so we needed that Mesoamerican side of music to represent Talokan. 597 00:29:51,439 --> 00:29:56,327 So it was an incredible journey for me to be able to go to Mexico. 598 00:29:56,361 --> 00:29:59,430 Some of the artists I worked with there includes Alemán, 599 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:00,782 Snow Tha Product, 600 00:30:00,815 --> 00:30:02,750 Vivir, and Mare. 601 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:05,954 But we still were, holding out hope that we could find like--like-- 602 00:30:05,987 --> 00:30:10,608 a marquee artist as thematically relevant as Kendrick was to the first film. 603 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:13,761 -And who was that? Who was that? -(laughing) 604 00:30:13,795 --> 00:30:16,781 -Who the--who was just a mother. -Uh-huh. 605 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:19,701 What was it like to write with Rihanna? 606 00:30:19,734 --> 00:30:21,653 -It was incredible. -WOMAN: Rihanna! 607 00:30:21,686 --> 00:30:26,024 NATE: Ryan knew this movie thematically is very much about motherhood, 608 00:30:26,057 --> 00:30:27,909 and mothers and daughters and that relationship. 609 00:30:27,942 --> 00:30:30,395 And Rihanna's very publicly a new mother. 610 00:30:30,428 --> 00:30:34,766 Listen, if anybody is going to get RiRi to give us some more music, 611 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,186 I guess it's Black Panther. (laughing) 612 00:30:38,219 --> 00:30:41,739 RIHANNA: ♪ Lift me up ♪ 613 00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:46,778 ♪ Hold me down ♪ 614 00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:50,315 It was Rihanna's admiration for the world of Wakanda 615 00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:52,917 that inspired her to even want to see a cut of the film. 616 00:30:52,951 --> 00:30:56,104 And we she did, she was excited to get back into the studio. 617 00:30:56,137 --> 00:30:59,991 And her collaboration with Tems, this amazing Nigerian-born artist as well 618 00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,360 and Ryan has a writing credit on "Lift Me Up". 619 00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:04,362 We have to experience-- we're going to Lagos 620 00:31:04,395 --> 00:31:06,281 and--where we meet with Tems, 621 00:31:06,314 --> 00:31:08,766 and she recorded No Woman No Cry for us that we used in the trailer. 622 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,402 TEMS: ♪ No woman no cry ♪ 623 00:31:11,436 --> 00:31:17,292 What's so special about this is that we recorded over four continents. 624 00:31:19,027 --> 00:31:21,996 Over 2500 hours in the studio… 625 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:27,418 over 40 different vocalists and artists, a hundred-piece orchestra, 626 00:31:27,452 --> 00:31:29,354 two completely different cultures. 627 00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:32,023 SINGER: ♪ And when I wake up… ♪ 628 00:31:35,443 --> 00:31:38,212 WHOOPI: How do you define the legacy of a King? 629 00:31:38,246 --> 00:31:39,614 LETITIA: He is a King. 630 00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:42,767 He is regal and a leader. 631 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,137 And T'challa is fortunate 632 00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:51,476 and blessed to have Chadwick Boseman represent him as a character, 633 00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:55,263 because Chadwick Boseman was everything and more 634 00:31:55,296 --> 00:31:57,415 to showcase T'challa to the world. 635 00:31:57,448 --> 00:32:02,854 He had no excuses when hard work was there to be done, 636 00:32:02,887 --> 00:32:04,072 no excuses. 637 00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:07,725 When you looked at him, you want to stand up straight. 638 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:12,463 You want to show up earlier, work longer and harder and you refuse 639 00:32:12,497 --> 00:32:14,515 to have any excuses yourself. 640 00:32:15,617 --> 00:32:18,152 KEVIN: Chadwick was the only actor we discussed. 641 00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:19,804 He was the only actor we discussed 642 00:32:19,837 --> 00:32:21,673 because of almost everything we'd seen him in. 643 00:32:21,706 --> 00:32:22,790 42. 644 00:32:23,992 --> 00:32:28,796 NATE: His portrayal of Jackie Robinson was so powerful because of the restraint. 645 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:31,950 That is something T'challa kind of exhibits. 646 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,384 Right? There's a dignity to him. 647 00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:35,787 King T'challa… 648 00:32:37,605 --> 00:32:40,291 the Black Panther. 649 00:32:41,225 --> 00:32:44,128 LUPITA: He had just a spiritual practice 650 00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:48,066 that made him more than just an actor. 651 00:32:48,099 --> 00:32:53,354 He was very much involved in the advancement of humanity. 652 00:32:53,388 --> 00:32:56,924 And he sought to do that through the roles he played. 653 00:32:56,958 --> 00:32:59,093 Mr. Brock, I'm just a ballplayer. 654 00:32:59,127 --> 00:33:01,195 No, no, no. You tell that 655 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:04,148 to all the little colored boys playing baseball in Florida today. 656 00:33:04,766 --> 00:33:07,435 To them, you a hero. 657 00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:11,622 ROBIN: Actor Chadwick Boseman being a real life hero 658 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,892 to children's at St. Jude's Hospital struggling with cancer. 659 00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:16,644 -Hi. How are you? -Good. 660 00:33:16,678 --> 00:33:17,795 I love your movie. 661 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:21,766 WHOOPI: In this Sirius XM interview, Bozeman gets emotional 662 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,852 about terminal patients he was communicating with. 663 00:33:24,886 --> 00:33:30,892 Their parents say they're trying to hold on till this movie comes. 664 00:33:31,526 --> 00:33:37,148 Just to experience those two little boys' anticipation of this movie. 665 00:33:37,181 --> 00:33:40,218 And when I found out that they-- 666 00:33:46,924 --> 00:33:49,394 Yeah. It is--it is--it means a lot. 667 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:54,365 WHOOPI: But he was privately battling the same disease. 668 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:57,235 We turn now to the tributes pouring in after the death 669 00:33:57,268 --> 00:34:00,738 of Black Panther star Chadwick Boseman at just 43 years old. 670 00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:05,410 New details about Chadwick Boseman's private battle with colon cancer. 671 00:34:05,443 --> 00:34:06,444 He got that diagnosis. 672 00:34:06,477 --> 00:34:09,180 It was being treated, all while filming several movies. 673 00:34:09,914 --> 00:34:14,018 WHOOPI: Bozeman's widow Simone is carrying his torch 674 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:17,055 and now publicly speaking for the first time. 675 00:34:17,271 --> 00:34:20,308 Let me start by saying how good it is to see you. 676 00:34:21,075 --> 00:34:22,076 It's good to see you too. 677 00:34:22,110 --> 00:34:25,446 Carrying this on, I'm sure cannot be easy. 678 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,635 It has been the most challenging two years 679 00:34:30,668 --> 00:34:32,470 I've ever had in my life. 680 00:34:32,503 --> 00:34:33,888 We don't have any children 681 00:34:33,921 --> 00:34:36,074 and we were really faced 682 00:34:36,107 --> 00:34:39,210 -with this question of legacy. -WHOOPI: Right. 683 00:34:39,243 --> 00:34:40,762 We sat down. 684 00:34:40,795 --> 00:34:45,299 He said, "You know, I was thinking about a foundation." 685 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,169 And he said, "For the arts. Will you do that for me?" 686 00:34:48,202 --> 00:34:50,004 -"Of course, I will do anything for you." -Yeah. 687 00:34:50,037 --> 00:34:53,858 And you know, and very, very shortly after that he transitioned. 688 00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:57,845 WHOOPI: Bozeman's alma mater Howard University 689 00:34:57,879 --> 00:35:00,548 named the college of fine arts after him. 690 00:35:00,581 --> 00:35:04,168 It was such a full circle moment because he was able 691 00:35:04,202 --> 00:35:08,139 to go back to Howard for the commencement speech in 2018 692 00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:11,542 and at that time they announced the college was going to be reestablished. 693 00:35:12,143 --> 00:35:13,611 WHOOPI: Bozeman would tell graduates 694 00:35:13,644 --> 00:35:16,931 about adversity he faced early in his career. 695 00:35:17,165 --> 00:35:19,567 Playing a role with Black stereotypes. 696 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,222 I was conflicted because this role seemed to be wrapped up 697 00:35:24,255 --> 00:35:27,325 in assumptions about us as Black folk. 698 00:35:27,358 --> 00:35:30,061 Howard instilled in me a certain amount of pride. 699 00:35:30,094 --> 00:35:33,114 And for my taste, this role didn't live up to those standards. 700 00:35:33,147 --> 00:35:36,167 He was playing a character that, you know, 701 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,819 didn't really have very much of a back story. 702 00:35:37,852 --> 00:35:39,187 -Uh-hmm. -One of the questions was, 703 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,539 "Where's my father? Where's my mother?" 704 00:35:41,572 --> 00:35:45,259 And his experience with those producers was that, "Oh, well, 705 00:35:45,293 --> 00:35:48,563 obviously your mom's addicted to drugs 706 00:35:48,596 --> 00:35:51,582 and obviously your father abandoned you." 707 00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:54,285 When I questioned that method of portrayal, 708 00:35:54,318 --> 00:35:57,438 a different path opened up for me, 709 00:35:57,471 --> 00:35:59,173 the path to my destiny. 710 00:35:59,207 --> 00:36:03,361 If he were not that person, the person that would stand up 711 00:36:03,394 --> 00:36:04,645 for what he believed in, 712 00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:08,466 he would not have been right for the role of T'challa. 713 00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:10,468 He wouldn't have been right to carry that mantle. 714 00:36:10,501 --> 00:36:12,937 Did you ever think you would fall for an actor? 715 00:36:13,704 --> 00:36:16,874 No. It was nowhere in my purview, you know. 716 00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:20,862 I, I grew up in a small town in the Bay Area. 717 00:36:20,895 --> 00:36:23,181 And I just wanted to work on concerts. 718 00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:25,483 I was working at the Hollywood Bowl, and we did 719 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:28,736 -a James Brown tribute concert… -Right. 720 00:36:28,769 --> 00:36:31,189 …and he came on as a special guest, and we met there. 721 00:36:31,222 --> 00:36:33,641 It was shortly after he did Get On Up. 722 00:36:33,674 --> 00:36:34,775 Hey! 723 00:36:34,809 --> 00:36:36,344 (screeching) 724 00:36:36,377 --> 00:36:37,845 I still kind of can't believe it. 725 00:36:37,879 --> 00:36:40,097 Wait a minute. What do you mean--you-- what can't you believe? 726 00:36:40,131 --> 00:36:42,934 It just I can't believe that-- 727 00:36:44,452 --> 00:36:48,940 I can't believe that I was so lucky that I got to love this person, 728 00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:51,092 and I also got them to love me too. 729 00:36:51,475 --> 00:36:54,845 Sure, he was an actor, but he was an artist. 730 00:36:55,263 --> 00:37:00,084 He was an artist and he was a leader and he was a king. 731 00:37:00,117 --> 00:37:03,821 That he chose me to be by his side for that is just-- 732 00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:08,826 he's an ancestor now and he is--and he is never leaving me. 733 00:37:08,859 --> 00:37:10,745 No, not ever, Queen. 734 00:37:10,778 --> 00:37:12,096 Never Queen. 735 00:37:12,129 --> 00:37:14,498 You are now queen and leader. 736 00:37:15,416 --> 00:37:17,902 Simone worked with Howard to establish 737 00:37:17,935 --> 00:37:20,755 the Chadwick A. Boseman Memorial Scholarship, 738 00:37:20,788 --> 00:37:24,442 which covers four years of tuition for Black artists 739 00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:26,043 at the fine arts school. 740 00:37:26,077 --> 00:37:29,630 You said you didn't have any kids, but you know you have millions 741 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:30,915 -of kids around the world. -Yeah. 742 00:37:30,948 --> 00:37:34,585 The legacy that you are sharing by doing this 743 00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:39,707 is huge, because it's not just little boys, 744 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:44,562 but all these little girls who now don't necessarily have to be princesses. 745 00:37:44,595 --> 00:37:45,913 They can be warriors. 746 00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:50,151 Being a Boseman scholar is an honor and also granting me 747 00:37:50,184 --> 00:37:53,554 opportunities to be in spaces that I--that I wouldn't have been in. 748 00:37:54,322 --> 00:37:58,542 It reminds me every day the things that I need to do to be able 749 00:37:58,576 --> 00:38:02,029 to walk in his footsteps and replicate his excellence. 750 00:38:02,063 --> 00:38:05,383 SHAWN: The whole entire reason I came to Howard was because of Chadwick Boseman. 751 00:38:05,416 --> 00:38:08,452 I want to be an actor and an artist, and Chadwick Boseman's legacy 752 00:38:08,486 --> 00:38:13,457 has paved the way for me in the sense that he opened doors. 753 00:38:13,491 --> 00:38:14,725 He was so connected to God. 754 00:38:14,759 --> 00:38:17,495 Knowing that he had a job to do, 755 00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:19,146 -he had to do his job… -Yeah. 756 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:21,265 …and nothing was more important than that. 757 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:24,218 Purpose is an essential element of you. 758 00:38:24,251 --> 00:38:28,039 It is the reason you are on the planet at this particular time in history. 759 00:38:28,072 --> 00:38:30,741 Remember the struggles along the way 760 00:38:30,775 --> 00:38:34,161 are only meant to shape you for your purpose. 761 00:38:34,195 --> 00:38:38,032 Stand up. You are a king. 762 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:42,553 I know that when people fall in love with that character, 763 00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:44,422 they're falling in love with Chad. 764 00:38:44,455 --> 00:38:47,291 WHOOPI: That love echoing in theaters around the world 765 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:50,795 for what would be his last time suiting up as T'challa 766 00:38:50,828 --> 00:38:53,614 in 2019's Avengers: Endgame… 767 00:38:53,647 --> 00:38:56,667 (audience cheering and applauding) 768 00:38:59,970 --> 00:39:01,205 MAN: Yes, baby! 769 00:39:03,307 --> 00:39:06,310 WHOOPI: …to the hero who never needed recognition, 770 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,030 to the king who didn't want a crown… 771 00:39:09,063 --> 00:39:10,948 Who… 772 00:39:10,981 --> 00:39:12,450 Who are you? 773 00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:15,836 WHOOPI: …to the man who modeled "Wakanda Forever," 774 00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:20,991 please know your legacy will live on forever. 775 00:39:23,094 --> 00:39:25,179 ROBIN: Our thanks to Whoopi Goldberg. 776 00:39:25,212 --> 00:39:28,649 The Chadwick Boseman Foundation for the arts is raising money 777 00:39:28,682 --> 00:39:32,570 for causes that empower people of the African diaspora. 778 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:39,043 Finally tonight, as promised for the first time anywhere, 779 00:39:39,076 --> 00:39:42,913 our exclusive look at Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, 780 00:39:42,947 --> 00:39:45,116 opening November 11th. 781 00:39:47,368 --> 00:39:48,936 We are under attack. 782 00:39:49,737 --> 00:39:51,756 (people exclaiming) 783 00:39:55,943 --> 00:39:56,994 Here. 784 00:40:01,132 --> 00:40:03,150 (screams) 785 00:40:03,884 --> 00:40:04,802 (speaks Xhosa) 786 00:40:05,786 --> 00:40:07,438 -(man mumbles) -Are you all right? 787 00:40:07,471 --> 00:40:09,423 Griot, activate the Sunbird. 788 00:40:09,457 --> 00:40:10,858 Shuri, where are you? 789 00:40:10,891 --> 00:40:12,426 Making my way to the city right now. 790 00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:15,096 -Stand down. That is an order! -Mother, I'm with Aneka. 791 00:40:15,129 --> 00:40:16,247 We can provide air support. 792 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,581 RAMONDA: Aneka, do not let her leave the lab. 793 00:40:17,615 --> 00:40:19,350 Mother, y-y-you're breaking up. 794 00:40:19,383 --> 00:40:20,401 -We can't hear you. -RAMONDA: Shuri! 795 00:40:20,434 --> 00:40:21,519 Love you. Bye. 796 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:24,822 You just hung up on the Queen. 797 00:40:24,855 --> 00:40:25,990 I just hung up on my mom. 798 00:40:26,023 --> 00:40:27,641 There's a difference. Come on, let's go! 68192

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