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[TV static drones]
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[bright tone]
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[mellow music]
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[cheers and applause]
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announcer:
This is gonna go away, back,
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and gone
over the left field wall.
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Line drive to center.
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Ball was well-hit.
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But Willie Mays picks up
two home runs here
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in the sixth inning.
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- Willie Mays is arguably
one of the greatest,
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if not the greatest player,
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in the history
of Major League Baseball.
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- Mays changed the way
the game was played.
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[cheers and applause]
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When Willie stepped
on the field,
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it was like going
to see Michael Jordan,
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Muhammad.
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- He's an American icon,
a beloved figure.
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- He was a gigantic star.
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It's just hard to quantify.
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- But I think it's critical
to understand who and what
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Willie Mays is.
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- Willie Mays came out
of segregated baseball
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in America.
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- The expectation
that he would shut up,
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don't raise any issues,
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especially if they have to do
with race,
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just go out and play ball.
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Willie fulfilled
that phenomenally
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to such an extent that
he actually drew criticism.
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You gotta stand up
and do more.
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You gotta stand up
and speak out.
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Willie didn't want any part
of that.
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- The words were hurtful
to Willie.
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- He's a really complicated
figure,
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kind of a fascinating figure.
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- It doesn't diminish
his status
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as the greatest
baseball player ever.
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For a Black man
to have done what he did
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at the time that he did it,
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maybe that's enough.
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- Are you Willie Mays,
the greatest baseball player
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of all time?
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[cheers and applause]
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♪ ♪
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- Willie's always gonna be
the godfather.
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You know, my dad passed away,
2003.
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I had Willie.
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I never played a game
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without either one of them
in my entire lifetime.
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We were in spring training
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and I was hitting
towering home runs.
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Like, towering balls
that were going like this.
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And Willie said that you gonna
be in a slump, boy.
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And I said why?
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He said, "The ball
should never do this.
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"That ball needs to go boom.
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You need--that ball needs to
come off your bat like that."
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[Junior Walker
& The All Stars' "Shotgun"]
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announcer: M-A-Y-S
spells "Bye, bye, baby."
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The slugger
opened the '61 season
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belting four homers
in one game.
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Only nine ballplayers have
ever accomplished the feat.
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From there, Mays becomes
the highest-paid
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ballplayer in history.
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announcer:
35-year-old Mays hit 52 homers
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and earned the Most
Valuable Player award.
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In his 535th career home run
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tops Jimmie Foxx
and gives Mays sole possession
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of second place
in total home runs hit.
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Only Babe Ruth has blasted
more four-baggers than Willie.
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- ♪ Do the dirty now ♪
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♪ Hey ♪
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♪ Put on your red dress ♪
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announcer: Drive
to deep left center field.
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It's gone! It's a home run.
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Number--number 599
of Mays' career.
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announcer: Deep to left.
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That one is way back.
Way back there!
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- Willie Mays joined
the great Babe Ruth
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as the only player
to hit 600 home runs.
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announcer: 0 and 2.
Wagner delivers.
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Mays hits it into left.
[cheers and applause]
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Willie Mays has done it again.
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He has brought the baseball
world to a standstill.
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- He is the most spectacular
baseball player
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that ever played.
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- ♪ I said shotgun ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ Shoot 'em
'fore they run now ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ Do the jerk, baby ♪
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- Willie exceled.
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He ran bases.
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People talk about
how fast he could get
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from first to third.
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Stealing home.
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Catching the ball like,
you know,
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we gon' put a little something
on it, like right here.
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So when you think about
all that,
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he dominated the entirety
of the game.
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announcer: Many of Mays'
former teammates were there
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as they honored Willie Mays
as the greatest Giant ever.
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- ♪ Shotgun ♪
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- I mean, he threw out
over 7,000 baseball players
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playing center field.
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That's the deepest part
of the stadium.
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660 home runs,
12 Golden Gloves
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22 seasons, 24 All-Star games.
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But unless you know
and follow the game,
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you don't really get
a full appreciation
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of how great he was.
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- Why do you love baseball?
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- Well, first of all,
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baseball was a game
that you could play
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and you could play it
for a long time.
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I picked baseball
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because I could play it
every day.
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It was fun.
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Oh, I learned baseball
when I was about four or five.
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When I was a young man
coming up,
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my father and I used to talk
about baseball all the time.
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They called him Cat
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because he could run,
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he could throw,
and he could field.
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And he could hit, man.
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He's a leadoff hitter.
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He and I would go
to the baseball field--
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and just the two of us--
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and he would show me
how to do every position:
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catching, second base,
shortstop,
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because they look
for you to be the leader.
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And we lived in a town
called Fairfield, Alabama.
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- The thing about the state
of Alabama in the 1940s,
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it is Jim Crow America.
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I mean,
it's almost undescribable.
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The things that we think
of now as racist
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were routine examples
of everyday life.
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White person walking down
the street,
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you step off to the side,
let them pass.
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Don't look them directly
in the eye.
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Yes, ma'am. No, sir.
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The whole bit.
Hold your head down.
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Think of every
possible injustice
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you've ever heard about related
to segregation and racism.
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It was there
and there in abundance.
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[film reel clicking]
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- My mother and dad
wasn't never together now.
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They did their own thing.
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My mother got married
to a guy named Frank.
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So I didn't stay with my mother
that long.
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I stayed with my two aunts.
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Ernestine and Sarah,
they took care of me.
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And my dad, he used to work
in a steel mill.
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And he would always
come home early,
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like, 2:00 in the afternoon,
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and he would show me
how to do a lot of things
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'cause he was
a good baseball player.
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Make sure that I didn't get
in no trouble.
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I haven't been in no trouble
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since I was, I guess,
two or three years old.
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- Babe Ruth used to say,
"Start a boy young.
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Teach him to play ball
when he's four years old."
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In the spring of any year,
a boy with a bat and a ball
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is secretly, to his father,
a major leaguer.
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So it was with Willie
and his dad.
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- Well, when I actually--
when I started--
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first started playing ball
was with my father,
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'bout five or six years old.
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He was playing semipro ball
around Birmingham,
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and he was working what
you call a steel mill team
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around Birmingham.
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And I used to play
with the big fellas,
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like, 19 and 20 years old,
when I was about 12.
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announcer: It's a sport
that appeals to all ages.
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The sound of a ball
meeting a bat...
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[bat cracks]
Is a familiar ring
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to millions of people
round the world.
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- The Negro League
was a Black baseball league.
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- If a Black man wanted
to play baseball,
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he played in the Negro Leagues
or he didn't play.
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- Baseball did not want
Black players to participate
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in the league,
and so concurrently
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there was a league
of Black teams
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from around the country
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with the best Black players,
Black owners.
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Everything about it was Black.
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It was a reality
in segregated America.
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announcer: It's a game
where the Negro athlete
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of today and yesteryear
has left a bright mark.
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- When I got to be
in high school,
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I was already playing
professional ball,
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but I couldn't say that.
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They could give me money
under the table
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and I went home,
and I gave it to my aunts.
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Sometime I make 1,000.
Sometime I make 2,000.
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But I had to come home,
and they--
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and my aunts would give me
a couple dollars back
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to put in my pocket
so I could go to the movies,
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take the girls out,
or whatever it would be.
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- I remember him
as "Buck-duck."
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That was his nickname.
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My dad,
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he was with the Birmingham
Black Barons
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in the old Negro League.
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He was first baseman.
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He was the second baseman,
and he was the manager.
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When Dad went to talk
to Mays' father
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about Mays playing,
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Mays' father knew that my dad
would take good care
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of Buck-duck
in his professional life.
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You know, try to keep him
straight and everything.
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Oh, Dad was a straight shooter.
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- Well, Piper Davis
is like the godfather
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of Black baseball
in Birmingham.
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He helped usher Willie Mays
on to the team,
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was a mentor for Willie
and a mentor
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for a lot
of the Black Birmingham kids
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that wanted to play baseball.
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[upbeat music]
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They played in this ballpark.
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Rickwood Field, America's
oldest baseball park.
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And the last park to play home
to a Negro League team.
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announcer:
Here's your starting lineup.
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Leading off and playing
center field, Cool Papa Bell.
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- The greatest baseball
players of that time
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played in the Negro League.
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Many of those players
would have been great
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in Major League Baseball
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had they been given
the opportunity,
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but of course, not until
Jackie Robinson
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does that happen.
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- If you didn't
leave church early,
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you didn't get a seat
in Rickwood
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when the Black Barons played.
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- When I played
with the Birmingham Barons,
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the guy that really helped me--
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actually, it was three guys.
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Piper Davis was the manager.
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Artie Wilson
was the shortstop,
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and Bill Greason
was the pitcher.
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- I had pretty good stuff.
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Well, I had my curveball.
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I did about 92
on the fastball.
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If I got two strikes on you,
I said "Bye."
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'Cause my--
my downer was like this.
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We were young on the club.
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We were rookies.
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And I, being
a little older than Willie,
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I tried to help him all I could
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because I was a little more
knowledgeable of things
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than he was.
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We were friends
and we played together
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in several places.
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- Willie was 17 years old.
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He was literally a boy
among men in many ways
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except when it came
to the ball field.
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- ♪ Whoo ♪
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[Muddy Waters' "Mannish Boy"]
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♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ Now when I was a young boy ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ At the age of five ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ My mother said
I was gonna be ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ The greatest man alive ♪
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♪ ♪
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- The other guys are husbands,
fathers, steel workers,
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more mature men,
and yet Willie's a kid.
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And he had
a youthful exuberance.
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They say he brought a lot
of excitement to the team
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and probably is the reason
they won their championship
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in 1948.
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- ♪ I spell M ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ A, child ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ N ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ That represents "man" ♪
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- At the end of the day,
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Piper came to me and he says,
"What did you learn today?"
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And I had to tell him
what I learned,
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how I learned,
and "Can you do it tomorrow?"
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"Yeah, man.
I can do it tomorrow."
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- ♪ I'm a man ♪
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♪ ♪
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- When he played,
he was a center fielder.
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So he would tell our left
fielder and right fielder,
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"Don't come nowhere in here.
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"You go from where you are
to the line,
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and everything else,
I'll take care of."
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And he was--he was tremendous.
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He was a great
young ballplayer.
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[bat cracks]
- So while Willie Mays,
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as a 17-year-old,
hit one home run
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for the Birmingham
Black Barons,
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he was, by the end
of the season,
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the starting center fielder
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for this Black Barons team
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that went all the way to
the Negro League World Series
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and actually got a game-winning
hit in one of those games.
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♪ ♪
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- Do you remember
when Jackie Robinson
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entered the major leagues?
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[soft orchestral music]
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♪ ♪
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- When I saw Jackie,
he could do everything.
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I was very impressed
with what he could do.
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He did everything,
and he could hit, man.
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- So the first time Willie
came across Jackie
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was at Rickwood Field
when Willie was a kid,
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and Jackie brought a group
of barnstormers
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through Birmingham.
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And that's when Jackie saw
Willie for the first time,
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and Jackie actually recommended
Willie Mays
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to the Brooklyn Dodgers.
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The Brooklyn Dodgers sent out
a scout named Wid Matthews,
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and Wid Matthews
saw Willie Mays play.
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He returned to Brooklyn
and said,
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"The kid can't hit
a curveball."
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So otherwise, imagine that,
Willie Mays a Dodger.
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April 15th, 1947,
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Jackie Robinson breaks
into the big leagues.
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[cheers and applause]
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[percussive music]
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Branch Rickey,
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the owner of the Brooklyn
Dodgers, signed him.
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- Well, all credit
is really due to Robinson
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for whatever gamble
there was in it
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or whatever sort
of experiment it was.
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He handled it beautifully
with a fine intelligence
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to enable him to understand
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that he was carrying this load
for 17 million people.
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- They choreographed
Jackie's career
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so that he looked like
the all-American boy.
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He just happened to be a Negro,
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and what that meant was
that you don't say anything,
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you don't do anything,
you don't respond,
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you don't fight back.
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You simply go
and play baseball.
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- I want to know whether
he's looking for somebody
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who's afraid to fight back.
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And his answer was stern.
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"I'm looking for somebody
with guts enough
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not to fight back."
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- That's what Willie Mays
patterned himself after.
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And so what Branch Rickey
and the white owners did
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was to cherry-pick
the Negro Leagues,
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oftentimes not even
compensating the teams
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that he took the players from.
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They never compensated
the Monarchs
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for Jackie Robinson.
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- Imagine
if Major League Baseball
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had taken several
Negro League teams
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and brought them
into Major League Baseball.
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You would've had
Black ownership.
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It would have been
true integration.
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What it was, ultimately,
was a poaching
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of the best players
from the Negro Leagues
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that ultimately destroyed
the league because it made
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the Negro League teams
obsolete.
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[somber music]
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♪ ♪
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- Jackie Robinson
walked through the door,
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but there had
to be more than just one
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to actually stamp it
that we're all here.
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Black African Americans
are here.
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We're all in the league, and
Willie's part of that history.
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- Willie
was in five World Series,
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including the 1948 last
Negro League World Series ever.
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- I remember
when we defeated Kansas City
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to get
in the Negro World Series,
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last Negro League
World Series.
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Uh, did win the only game.
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We won in relief against
the Homestead Grays.
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They defeated us four games
to one.
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And that was the end
of the league.
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Birmingham Black Barons,
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they were a terrific bunch
of guys.
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- When I was about 15 or 16,
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I guess they had scouts
watching me,
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and they signed me
with the Giants.
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And, as you know, they signed
me right out of high school.
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Eddie Montague signed me
to the Giants at that time.
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And I said, "Dad, well,
I'm going where the money is."
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- The Giants
are an historic franchise,
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a National League team
dating back to 1883.
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For many of those years,
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the Giants had been
New York's team,
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not the Yankees.
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But after the Dodgers,
you know,
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they signed Jackie Robinson,
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and that worked out
beautifully.
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Then they signed
Roy Campanella,
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and they signed Don Newcombe.
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And immediately,
they had three players
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from the old Negro Leagues
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who were three of the best
and biggest stars
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in the National League.
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So I think Horace Stoneham,
the owner of the Giants,
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whose father
had owned the Giants,
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Horace Stoneham
finally realized
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we're being left in the dust.
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We need
to get some players here.
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So they did get Hank Thompson,
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but they also got Willie Mays.
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They sent him to the minor
leagues for some seasoning.
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- So imagine a high school kid
who just graduated
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assigned to the Trenton Giants
in New Jersey,
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and you go
from an all-Black league
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to an all-white league.
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And I'm a teenager playing
in this,
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and I'm playing some
of these cities in the South.
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And I'm not hearing the things
I heard in the Negro Leagues.
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- Trenton, New Jersey,
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that was
the Interstate League.
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I was the first Black
in that particular league.
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And we played in a town
called Hagerstown, Maryland.
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Oh, I never forget this day,
on a Friday.
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And they call you all kinds
of names there.
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"Nigger this, nigger that."
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And it was--and I said
to myself,
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and which I think this is where
Piper Davis came in in my mind.
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00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:05,959
"Hey, whatever they call you,
they can't touch you.
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Don't--don't talk back."
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[melancholic music]
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- And that was his thing.
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If he had anger about it,
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he left it on the field.
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That's how he responded
to racism that came toward him.
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He was like, "Then I'll just
destroy you on the field."
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- So he went to AAA.
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Their AAA team
was in Minneapolis,
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a team called
the Minneapolis Millers.
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He was just destroying
the pitching in AAA.
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Stealing bases, making
great plays in the outfield.
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Willie could do it all.
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Name a skill in baseball
and Willie excelled at it.
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And the Giants were not doing
that well.
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They were kind of stumbling
around a little bit.
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So in late May,
after his 20th birthday,
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Leo Durocher,
the Giants' manager,
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brought him up
from Minneapolis.
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- Well of course,
I'm very prejudiced
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when it comes to Willie Mays.
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I think he's the greatest
ballplayer we have today.
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00:19:02,474 --> 00:19:05,018
- Leo, oh, my God.
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Leo, he took care of me, man.
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00:19:08,939 --> 00:19:12,150
- Leo Durocher
was a Runyonesque character.
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He was a baseball guy,
obviously,
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00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:16,321
but he also hung around
with Hollywood types.
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00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:19,116
He was married
to the actress Laraine Day.
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He was suspended from baseball
for a year in the 1940s
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for his association
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with supposedly
unsavory characters.
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He had been on the Yankees
with Babe Ruth.
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00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:35,090
He was a guy who spanned
a lot of baseball history.
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He managed both the Dodgers
and the Giants,
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00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:42,139
and Leo loved Willie Mays.
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00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:44,975
- But when I met Leo,
we was in spring training.
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They had me playing left field.
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00:19:47,311 --> 00:19:48,770
And left field was too short.
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00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,065
There wasn't enough room out
there for me to move around in.
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00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:55,027
And I caught about
four or five balls
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00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:58,113
in center field very easy,
no problem.
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Leo said,
"That's your position.
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When we bring you up,
you gonna play center field."
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00:20:04,286 --> 00:20:07,789
- Did you have a hard time
adjusting?
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00:20:07,873 --> 00:20:09,583
- No, I didn't have
a hard time adjusting.
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00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:12,544
I had a hard time just trying
to hit the ball.
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- Charlie,
when he first joined us,
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I know he wasn't over 24 or 25,
whatever it was.
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00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:20,636
And I was a little disturbed,
and one of my coaches came
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00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:21,762
into me, Herman Franks,
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00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,680
and said that you better
go talk to your boy.
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He's sitting in front
of his locker, crying.
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00:20:25,724 --> 00:20:27,726
So I went down and put my arm
around Willie.
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00:20:27,809 --> 00:20:29,311
He was sitting there sobbing,
and he said, "Listen, Leo,
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00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:30,979
and he talked in a high
tenor voice, Charlie.
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00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,314
He said, "Listen, Leo,"
he said,
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00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,066
"I can't play up here."
He said, "They're too tough
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"for me. I can't hit.
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00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:37,611
I know they're gonna send me
back to Minneapolis."
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And I put my arm around him
and I said,
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"Son, as long
as I'm the manager
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"of the New York Giants,
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00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:44,159
"you're gonna be
the center fielder.
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00:20:44,242 --> 00:20:45,744
"We brought you up here
to play center field,
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"and you're gonna play
center field today,
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"tomorrow, next week,
next month,
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00:20:49,873 --> 00:20:51,625
"and as long as I'm here.
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00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:52,793
"Go home.
Get a good night's rest.
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Tomorrow's another day."
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The following day against
Warren Spahn,
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first ball pitch,
over the roof.
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And believe me, Charlie,
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00:20:59,716 --> 00:21:01,343
he literally carried us
on his back
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00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:03,470
for the next six weeks.
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00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:05,847
- Willie looked up
to Leo like a second father.
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00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,850
And Leo looked at Willie
as the guy
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00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:11,812
who is gonna turn
this team around.
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00:21:11,895 --> 00:21:15,357
Because of that, Willie just
went off in New York.
507
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,110
- I think Leo might have been
the guy who first coined
508
00:21:18,193 --> 00:21:19,861
the idea of a five-tool player.
509
00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:21,446
- There is no question
in my mind,
510
00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:23,782
but what he can do
is the five essential things
511
00:21:23,865 --> 00:21:25,701
better than
any other player today,
512
00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:28,078
and that's hit,
hit with power,
513
00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:30,288
run, field, and throw.
514
00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:32,332
- Willie is a ten
on a ten scale
515
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,209
in all five of those.
516
00:21:34,292 --> 00:21:35,585
Hit for average.
517
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:36,837
Hit for power.
518
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,881
Run, field, throw.
519
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:42,509
- So it'd come to 1951.
520
00:21:42,592 --> 00:21:45,429
This team could win because
this guy is gonna lead us
521
00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:47,055
to the World Series,
I'm telling you.
522
00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:49,391
He helped the Giants turn
that season around
523
00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:50,434
in a big way.
524
00:21:50,517 --> 00:21:52,602
The Giants, in one
of the greatest pennant races
525
00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:55,605
in history, the greatest
comeback of all time.
526
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,816
- He was on deck
when Bobby Thomson hit
527
00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,068
"The Shot Heard Round
the World."
528
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,278
announcer:
There's a long drive...
529
00:22:01,361 --> 00:22:02,863
it's gonna be, I believe...
530
00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:04,531
the Giants win the pennant!
531
00:22:04,614 --> 00:22:07,034
The Giants win the pennant!
The Giants...
532
00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,036
- Bottom of the ninth,
they're down 4 to 1.
533
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,996
Bobby Thomson
hits the three-run homer.
534
00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:12,205
Giants win it 5 to 4.
535
00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:15,959
- Everybody was running
to home plate.
536
00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,628
I was the last guy
537
00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:21,840
to get to home plate
because I didn't realize
538
00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:23,592
that the game was over.
539
00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:25,052
We won the pennant.
540
00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:28,680
And we--we just had, you know,
a good time after that.
541
00:22:28,764 --> 00:22:31,600
And then when we went
into the clubhouse,
542
00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:35,937
everybody was drinking
champagne and stuff like that.
543
00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:38,273
They gave me a little bit
of champagne,
544
00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:41,568
and they tell me
that I fell out.
545
00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:43,445
- [laughs]
- And when I woke up,
546
00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:46,490
I was home in the bed.
547
00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:48,241
- Because it was
the World Series--
548
00:22:48,325 --> 00:22:50,243
everybody watched
the World Series--
549
00:22:50,327 --> 00:22:53,371
it really put Willie
in that spotlight nationally.
550
00:22:53,455 --> 00:22:56,249
- New York really was
the capital of baseball
551
00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:57,584
at that point.
552
00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:59,878
Not only were there
great teams,
553
00:22:59,961 --> 00:23:01,546
but some
of the most significant
554
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,799
and historic players
in the game's history
555
00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:05,634
were there at the same time.
556
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,303
announcer: Bobby Brown
uncorked the mighty blast.
557
00:23:08,386 --> 00:23:12,057
It sends Mays ranging
far back to haul it in.
558
00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:15,435
He slips and falls hard when
he tries to put on the brakes.
559
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,814
And Woodling jogs easily
to third after the catch.
560
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,650
DiMaggio comes
into the batter's box.
561
00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,944
Joe connects with a solid blow
562
00:23:24,027 --> 00:23:26,446
and clouts
a mighty two-run homer.
563
00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,740
- The Yankees ended up winning
in six games.
564
00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,575
announcer:
The Yankees take the Series,
565
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,119
four games to two.
566
00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:36,123
And thus the record book
closes on 1951,
567
00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:38,917
one of the most brilliant
and thrilling years
568
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,421
in all the exciting history
of baseball.
569
00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:45,674
- I had a good year in '51.
570
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:49,845
I think I hit .274,
but it was--it was good.
571
00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:53,849
- So here's a 20-year-old
Willie Mays in '51.
572
00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:57,060
He introduces himself,
and he's in the World Series.
573
00:23:57,144 --> 00:23:58,895
He's a year out of high school.
574
00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:01,314
He's a starting center fielder
in the Polo Grounds.
575
00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:05,819
And the following May,
he's drafted into the army.
576
00:24:05,902 --> 00:24:07,320
- I...
- Willie Howard Mays...
577
00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:09,364
- Do solemnly swear...
- Do solemnly swear...
578
00:24:09,447 --> 00:24:11,283
- That I will bear true faith
and allegiance...
579
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:12,659
- That I will bear true faith
and allegiance...
580
00:24:12,742 --> 00:24:14,119
- To the United States
of America...
581
00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:15,704
- To the United States
of America.
582
00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,832
I tried to get a whole year in
with the Giants...
583
00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:21,835
[dramatic musical sting]
- But they called me. [laughs]
584
00:24:21,918 --> 00:24:23,712
- Willie's drafted
into the army,
585
00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:26,840
not to fight, but to play ball,
to entertain the troops.
586
00:24:26,923 --> 00:24:29,259
[somber music]
587
00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:30,594
♪ ♪
588
00:24:30,677 --> 00:24:32,387
- I traveled all over
589
00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:35,098
'cause I played the army,
navy, marines.
590
00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:37,058
All those guys,
591
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:38,226
we killed them.
592
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,061
- And during the Korean War,
593
00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:42,731
he introduced the basket catch
to the world.
594
00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,901
- The guys gave me the name
"The Basket Catch."
595
00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:47,277
Every time I would catch it,
596
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,696
"Oh, he's making a basket catch
today."
597
00:24:49,779 --> 00:24:51,198
- And the basket catch is--
598
00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:52,782
you know, we're all taught
as Little Leaguers,
599
00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:54,534
two hands,
see the ball into the gl--
600
00:24:54,618 --> 00:24:55,744
well, Willie, "No,
601
00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:57,704
I'm gonna catch it down here
at belt level."
602
00:24:57,787 --> 00:25:00,749
- And then
when I got out of the army
603
00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:02,417
to come back to the Giants,
604
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,921
they just threw that in,
the writers I'm talking about.
605
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:09,758
And they just got--took it
and they just ran with it.
606
00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:12,385
- He played in the army
for two years.
607
00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:14,930
When he came out of the army
in '54,
608
00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,307
Mays came back to his home
in Harlem
609
00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:18,934
and came back to the Giants.
610
00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:20,101
[Ella Fitzgerald's
"Drop Me Off in Harlem"]
611
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:23,939
- ♪ Drop me off in Harlem ♪
612
00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:27,484
♪ Any place in Harlem ♪
613
00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:30,570
♪ There's someone
waiting there ♪
614
00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:36,117
♪ Who makes it seem like
heaven up in Harlem ♪
615
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,327
♪ I don't want... ♪
616
00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:39,621
- So Willie's time in Harlem
in the '50s
617
00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:42,582
was crucial
to his development as a man
618
00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:44,793
as well as a ballplayer.
619
00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:46,711
He was just a teenager
in Alabama,
620
00:25:46,795 --> 00:25:48,004
but now here he was living
621
00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:50,173
in one of the biggest cities
in the world
622
00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:54,135
in the most famous
Black community in America.
623
00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:56,304
Willie lived
on St. Nicholas Place
624
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,932
just a block and half
from the Polo Grounds.
625
00:25:59,015 --> 00:26:02,978
But his main hangout was
the Red Rooster on 7th Ave
626
00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:05,021
in the 130s,
627
00:26:05,105 --> 00:26:07,440
which was part
of a vibrant strip of bars
628
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,276
and nightclubs.
629
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,820
The Red Rooster
was a short drive or walk
630
00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:13,613
from the Polo Grounds.
631
00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:16,616
Willie would go there,
and he like to play pool.
632
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,159
They'd give him a table
in the back
633
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:21,579
where he could eat
after the game and socialize.
634
00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:23,123
He didn't drink or smoke,
635
00:26:23,206 --> 00:26:26,167
but he liked to hang out there
and enjoy his celebrity.
636
00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:28,670
Supposedly
the uptown gamblers,
637
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,046
they wouldn't let him hang out
too late.
638
00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:32,299
They made sure he went home
and got his sleep
639
00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:34,175
when they bet on the Giants.
640
00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:37,512
- Red Rooster, that's a--
that was the restaurant
641
00:26:37,595 --> 00:26:39,514
that was George Woods',
642
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:41,474
and George, I don't know.
643
00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:43,018
Somebody must have called him
644
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:46,980
because every night about 9:00,
645
00:26:47,063 --> 00:26:49,691
here he come.
[grumbling]
646
00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:51,318
"You gotta go home."
647
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:52,694
And I said,
"What you mean, I gotta go?
648
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:53,820
It's just only 9:00."
649
00:26:53,903 --> 00:26:55,488
"No, no, no.
You gotta go home."
650
00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:59,451
'Cause I had a big table
for about ten
651
00:26:59,534 --> 00:27:01,328
in the back of the restaurant.
652
00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:06,333
So they parked my car right
by the back door
653
00:27:06,416 --> 00:27:08,084
of the Red Rooster.
654
00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,919
And they made sure
655
00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:12,213
that I didn't
get in no trouble.
656
00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:13,882
- And imagine, you know,
657
00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:15,759
your table at the Red Rooster.
658
00:27:15,842 --> 00:27:18,053
You not in no hurry
to go back to Alabama.
659
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:19,304
[laughs]
660
00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:21,389
- ♪ If Harlem moved to China ♪
661
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:23,224
♪ I know nothing finer ♪
662
00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:29,689
♪ Than to be in Harlem ♪
663
00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:34,361
- Not only is Willie Mays
in Harlem, he's the man.
664
00:27:34,444 --> 00:27:37,405
- Everybody took care of me,
made sure I got back home,
665
00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:39,574
made sure that I got
to the ballpark,
666
00:27:39,657 --> 00:27:42,660
made sure
that no one bothered me
667
00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:45,914
'cause everyone on 7th Avenue
knew who I was.
668
00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:50,919
They didn't--nobody said
nothing out of the way to me.
669
00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:53,254
[lively jazz music]
670
00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:56,257
The kids found out
that I could play stickball.
671
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,802
And they knocked
on my window every day.
672
00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:01,096
In the South,
we didn't call it stickball.
673
00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,556
We called it, like, broomball.
[kids shouting]
674
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,309
And that's how I learned how
to hit the ball.
675
00:28:06,393 --> 00:28:07,894
We'd take the mop,
676
00:28:07,977 --> 00:28:09,062
cut the head off,
677
00:28:09,145 --> 00:28:11,564
and now we got a long stick.
678
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,068
When it bounced and come up
to me,
679
00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:17,404
I could hit it a long ways.
680
00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,906
- So a lot of the mornings,
he would play stickball
681
00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:21,616
with the kids
in the streets of Harlem
682
00:28:21,699 --> 00:28:26,037
and then afterward treat 'em
to cake and ice cream.
683
00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:28,289
- All the kids,
they'd come by, like, 8:00,
684
00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:30,041
9:00 in the morning.
685
00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:32,293
I had to play
for about a hour.
686
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:34,796
When I played a night game,
I'd go out to play stickball
687
00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:38,174
with the guys about
3:00 or 4:00,
688
00:28:38,258 --> 00:28:41,302
and then I go to the ballpark
all the time.
689
00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,514
And the kids
enjoyed that very much.
690
00:28:44,597 --> 00:28:46,850
It was just a fun time.
691
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:50,812
- Can you imagine the great
Willie Mays plays stickball
692
00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:52,689
just like the rest of us?
693
00:28:52,772 --> 00:28:56,985
So there were a lot of things
that we identified with Willie.
694
00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:59,863
Willie's first year
with the Giants
695
00:28:59,946 --> 00:29:02,490
was my second year
broadcasting.
696
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,826
So really, we were both kids.
697
00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:06,661
And I gravitated to him
698
00:29:06,744 --> 00:29:09,205
because I loved
the way he played.
699
00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:13,168
I think most of us
were absolutely blown away
700
00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:15,670
by his overall ability.
701
00:29:15,753 --> 00:29:17,672
And it was his attitude.
702
00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:21,009
To me, in watching him,
he wasn't a big leaguer.
703
00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,969
He was a kid
playing the outfield
704
00:29:23,052 --> 00:29:25,180
and loving every minute of it.
705
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:28,016
Mays catching this one is like
a seagull dipping for a fish.
706
00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:30,018
There he goes.
707
00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:31,269
- This is the new Willie Mays,
708
00:29:31,352 --> 00:29:34,439
and the country is on fire
because of this man.
709
00:29:34,522 --> 00:29:37,192
He just lights up
every ballpark.
710
00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:40,904
- My dad took me to one game
at the Polo Grounds.
711
00:29:40,987 --> 00:29:43,031
We're seated down
the right field line.
712
00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:45,658
And I'm on my father's
shoulders
713
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:48,495
when he says to me,
"Bobby, look.
714
00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,038
"See that player right there?
715
00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:51,664
That's Willie Mays,"
716
00:29:51,748 --> 00:29:55,043
as if he was saying to his son
the equivalent of,
717
00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:57,587
"Son,
that's the Washington Monument.
718
00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:59,172
"That's the Grand Canyon.
719
00:29:59,255 --> 00:30:01,049
"You'll never forget
having been here.
720
00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:04,385
That's Willie Mays."
721
00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:07,055
- The epitome of Willie Mays
at the Polo Grounds
722
00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:10,225
was the famous catch in 1954.
723
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:12,268
Game one of the World Series,
724
00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:13,394
New York Giants against
725
00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:15,605
the heavily favored
Cleveland Indians
726
00:30:15,688 --> 00:30:16,898
of the American League.
727
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:19,234
And the Indians that year had
a great pitching staff,
728
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:20,652
a deep lineup, a good defense.
729
00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:22,904
They were stacked. 111 wins.
730
00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:25,657
They were expected
to sweep that Series.
731
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,204
"The Catch" in '54,
732
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:33,122
the most famous catch
in the World Series history
733
00:30:33,206 --> 00:30:34,374
that lives on to this day,
734
00:30:34,457 --> 00:30:36,000
turned that World Series
around.
735
00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:39,254
- Vic Wertz hit a ball
over his head.
736
00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,631
- With a runner at first
and at second base,
737
00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:44,634
Vic Wertz hit a shot
that's a home run
738
00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:45,760
in any other ballpark.
739
00:30:45,843 --> 00:30:46,928
[bat cracks]
740
00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:47,971
[watch ticking]
741
00:30:48,054 --> 00:30:49,681
[cheers and applause]
742
00:30:49,764 --> 00:30:52,767
- Vic hit the ball so hard
and so high.
743
00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:56,271
- But what made it amazing was,
Willie played shallow,
744
00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:58,398
and Willie ran.
745
00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,900
announcer:
But there goes Willie!
746
00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:02,694
- Willie sprinted back
on the ball.
747
00:31:02,777 --> 00:31:03,695
[suspenseful music]
748
00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:05,405
- He didn't worry about
any walls
749
00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:07,574
because it was so deep.
750
00:31:07,657 --> 00:31:10,743
- With his back to the infield,
running on the dead run,
751
00:31:10,827 --> 00:31:12,412
looked up.
752
00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:13,788
The ball dropped over
his shoulder.
753
00:31:13,871 --> 00:31:16,040
He reached out
and made the catch.
754
00:31:16,124 --> 00:31:18,293
[cheers and applause]
755
00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:20,795
- Part of it was catching it
over your head.
756
00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:22,463
That's what made it amazing.
757
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,173
And then he just turned around
and winged it.
758
00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:26,301
- I caught it very quickly
759
00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,886
and got rid of it
back into the infield.
760
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:30,638
announcer: And he makes
a miraculous catch
761
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,640
as he stops a step short
of the wall.
762
00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:35,184
- He sends that ball back
to the infield
763
00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:37,312
in a split second.
764
00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:38,938
- They had Larry Doby.
765
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:40,356
Larry was on second.
766
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,401
- And Willie knew
that the ball was so deep
767
00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:45,945
that there was a good chance
that that runner would score.
768
00:31:46,029 --> 00:31:48,281
- He had to come back,
touch third,
769
00:31:48,364 --> 00:31:50,450
go back to second,
touch second,
770
00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:52,160
and he didn't even score.
771
00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:54,162
- When Willie Mays went back
for that catch
772
00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:55,997
and them 30 yards went
to 40 yards
773
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,833
and a little further, that's,
to us, as athletes,
774
00:31:58,916 --> 00:32:00,668
makes it phenomenal.
775
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:03,171
[ticking]
776
00:32:03,254 --> 00:32:05,673
- Those 6.5 seconds
777
00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:07,800
from the time Wertz hits
the ball
778
00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:10,511
till the time Mays let go
of the ball
779
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,014
are 6.5 seconds
in American history
780
00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,558
that everybody
should know about.
781
00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:18,686
- What you have just seen
is a glimpse
782
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:20,980
of athletic genius.
783
00:32:21,064 --> 00:32:22,815
[soft triumphant music]
784
00:32:22,899 --> 00:32:27,820
That catch is one
of the greatest
785
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:32,992
athletic performances
in sports history.
786
00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:36,162
- And with the momentum
created by Willie's catch,
787
00:32:36,245 --> 00:32:38,289
the Giants won
the World Series.
788
00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:40,083
announcer: In the clubhouse,
bedlam breaks loose
789
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:42,210
as television crews,
photographers,
790
00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:44,712
and newspapermen endeavor
to record the scene.
791
00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:47,548
- That World Series was one
of the biggest upsets
792
00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:49,092
of all time.
793
00:32:49,175 --> 00:32:51,678
And television
was just becoming a big thing.
794
00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,638
Before that, everybody listened
to the World Series.
795
00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:54,889
Everybody was tuned in
796
00:32:54,972 --> 00:32:56,265
one way or the other
to the World Series.
797
00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:59,394
- Baseball,
America's number one sport
798
00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:02,021
and one which has a season
running for half the year,
799
00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:04,315
is number one
on television too.
800
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:07,360
The athletes' audience
is vastly increased.
801
00:33:07,443 --> 00:33:10,613
Television holds them
by the millions.
802
00:33:10,697 --> 00:33:13,408
- I think it's important
that Willie spent
803
00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,703
the first portion of his career
in New York
804
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:19,872
because when television
was in its infancy
805
00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:22,375
and there weren't
that many games on TV,
806
00:33:22,458 --> 00:33:25,920
the nation by and large saw
the All-Star game
807
00:33:26,003 --> 00:33:27,130
and the World Series.
808
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:29,006
And they watched
television shows
809
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,884
that emanated from New York.
810
00:33:31,968 --> 00:33:34,137
- Another great star
from Alabama,
811
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:38,599
Willie Mays led
the National League with .342.
812
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:43,771
- And at that time, to see
any Black person on television
813
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,064
was--was rare.
814
00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,316
- Well, I've had a few
base hits in my career,
815
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,569
but I think
the biggest thrill I got--
816
00:33:49,652 --> 00:33:51,946
up until the ball was caught,
that is--
817
00:33:52,029 --> 00:33:53,448
was the ball that Willie caught
818
00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:55,199
in the World Series
of last year.
819
00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:57,910
I think I also got more
publicity outta that ball too.
820
00:33:57,994 --> 00:33:59,620
[laughter]
821
00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:02,290
- Well, Willie, uh,
when did you change your method
822
00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:04,083
of catching a ball?
823
00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:06,753
And what--what--
how--how long ago was that?
824
00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:08,296
- Well, I spent two years
in the army,
825
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,006
and I said to myself,
826
00:34:10,089 --> 00:34:11,591
"Now when I come out
of the army, I have to,
827
00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:12,675
you know, have something new."
828
00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:14,802
I said, "Well,
I better practice on this."
829
00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:18,222
Well, I, you know, perfected it
pretty good, and I use it.
830
00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:19,474
- What--what is the difference
in it?
831
00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:20,892
How--how--how do you--
832
00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:22,310
- Well, it relaxes me.
833
00:34:22,393 --> 00:34:25,313
I can catch it easier that way.
I don't know, maybe--
834
00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:27,440
- You didn't relax Vic Wertz,
that's all I gotta say to you.
835
00:34:27,523 --> 00:34:28,900
[laughter]
836
00:34:28,983 --> 00:34:32,612
- So the whole country had
a better sense of them
837
00:34:32,695 --> 00:34:35,448
than they did of the stars
on other teams
838
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:36,741
outside their own cities.
839
00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:40,036
So here's Willie Mays,
840
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,248
the first great
African American superstar.
841
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,835
After the war,
Willie Mays busted through
842
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:52,340
to show the world
that baseball is changing.
843
00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:55,927
[The Treniers' "Say Hey
(The Willie Mays Song)"]
844
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:57,512
- ♪ Say hey ♪
- ♪ Say who? ♪
845
00:34:57,595 --> 00:34:59,138
- ♪ Say Willie ♪
846
00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:00,973
♪ Say hey ♪
- ♪ Say who? ♪
847
00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:03,309
♪ Swinging at the plate,
say hey ♪
848
00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:05,561
- ♪ Say who? ♪
- ♪ Say Willie ♪
849
00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:08,981
♪ That Giants kid is great ♪
850
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:12,819
♪ He hits the ball,
it's long gone, man ♪
851
00:35:12,902 --> 00:35:15,696
♪ Hits it farther
than Campy can ♪
852
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,574
♪ Swings the bat like
a little lead pipe ♪
853
00:35:18,658 --> 00:35:21,619
♪ When they reach the ball,
it's overripe ♪
854
00:35:21,702 --> 00:35:23,454
♪ Say hey ♪
- ♪ Say who? ♪
855
00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:25,498
- I came to New York
when I was 19,
856
00:35:25,581 --> 00:35:27,500
and I was very shy.
I didn't know anybody.
857
00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:29,877
I was starting saying,
"Come here. Say hey."
858
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,712
We had a lot
of great New York writers
859
00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:33,548
who would say, "Oh, there go
the 'Say Hey Kid,'"
860
00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:34,882
and it stuck with me.
861
00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:37,051
- ♪ Say Willie ♪
862
00:35:37,134 --> 00:35:38,678
♪ Whatcha gonna say? ♪
863
00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:40,388
♪ ♪
864
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:41,556
♪ Say hey ♪
865
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,600
[cheers and applause]
866
00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:47,812
- 1958 will always
be remembered
867
00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:49,564
as the year
Major League Baseball came
868
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:50,815
to the West Coast.
869
00:35:50,898 --> 00:35:52,567
And baseball takes top billing
870
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:56,028
as the spotlight shines
on the San Francisco Giants.
871
00:35:56,112 --> 00:36:00,074
- And in 1958, Horace Stoneham
moves to San Francisco
872
00:36:00,157 --> 00:36:02,368
because the O'Malleys
are moving to Los Angeles.
873
00:36:02,451 --> 00:36:05,371
[soft music]
874
00:36:05,454 --> 00:36:08,666
- Walter O'Malley broke
the hearts of Brooklyn fans
875
00:36:08,749 --> 00:36:10,376
moving the Dodgers to LA,
876
00:36:10,459 --> 00:36:13,880
but the same thing happened
to Giants fans.
877
00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:18,217
♪ ♪
878
00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:20,595
Giants fans told me the story:
879
00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:23,598
Horace Stoneham broke my heart
when he moved the Giants,
880
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:25,266
and I've never forgiven him.
881
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:26,601
But Willie Mays,
882
00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:28,436
as long
as they had Willie Mays,
883
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:30,438
I still cared about the Giants.
884
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:32,857
- In San Francisco,
the big city is big league
885
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:34,942
for the first time,
and a gala parade
886
00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:37,236
down Market Street bids
the Giants welcome
887
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,572
as they open the season
in their new home.
888
00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:42,241
- By that time,
I think Willie was the Giants.
889
00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:44,744
He was the face
of the franchise.
890
00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:46,537
- I think
that without Willie Mays,
891
00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:50,249
you don't have the Giants
that we've all come to know
892
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,460
and love in the Bay Area.
893
00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:56,839
It's hard for me to imagine
San Francisco being interested
894
00:36:56,923 --> 00:36:59,091
in the Giants moving
from New York
895
00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:01,469
without Willie Mays.
896
00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:05,973
He was a linchpin factor
in that deal being made.
897
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,726
- An extra burst of cheers
greets Willie Mays.
898
00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:11,020
The Say Hey Kid
is at home already.
899
00:37:11,103 --> 00:37:13,814
A parade that marks the making
of baseball history,
900
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:16,734
San Francisco Giants
meet Los Angeles Dodgers,
901
00:37:16,817 --> 00:37:19,695
the West Coast's first
big league baseball game ever,
902
00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:21,280
but incidentally,
a continuation
903
00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,449
of an old, old
diamond rivalry.
904
00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:24,992
- Seals Stadium,
the new home of the Giants,
905
00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,744
is a beehive of activity
906
00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:29,497
as ushers and ticket takers
prepare for the big ride
907
00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:31,415
in the new era of baseball.
908
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:32,792
The Say Hey Kid, Willie Mays,
909
00:37:32,875 --> 00:37:34,669
gets his first safety
in San Francisco
910
00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:36,754
to put Mantle
on first and second.
911
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:40,633
Willie Kirkland touches
Ron Negray for a single
912
00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:42,176
that produces a final run.
913
00:37:42,259 --> 00:37:44,887
And the San Francisco Giants
make a successful debut
914
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:48,182
in their new home by thrashing
Los Angeles 8 to 0.
915
00:37:48,265 --> 00:37:50,935
23,000 fans
leave Seals Stadium,
916
00:37:51,018 --> 00:37:52,853
confident that
Major League Baseball
917
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:55,231
is on the West Coast to stay.
918
00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:56,983
- When the Giants
and the Dodgers moved
919
00:37:57,066 --> 00:38:00,444
to the West Coast, it made it
truly a national game.
920
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:03,531
- But in San Francisco,
they did not warm to Willie
921
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:05,032
when he first got here.
922
00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:07,660
- Why didn't they embrace
Willie Mays in San Francisco?
923
00:38:07,743 --> 00:38:09,370
Well, for one thing,
Joe DiMaggio.
924
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:13,165
♪ ♪
925
00:38:13,249 --> 00:38:16,544
- DiMaggio was born and raised
in San Francisco
926
00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:18,879
and had played
for the San Francisco Seals
927
00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:22,633
in the Pacific Coast League
before going to the Yankees.
928
00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:24,677
So he's already a legend.
929
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,221
He's their center fielder.
930
00:38:27,304 --> 00:38:28,973
- He was a man about town.
931
00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:30,224
He had his own restaurant.
932
00:38:30,307 --> 00:38:32,184
It was the Toots Shor
of San Francisco.
933
00:38:33,686 --> 00:38:34,895
- So Willie shows up,
934
00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:37,189
but this is Joe DiMaggio's
town.
935
00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:39,191
That's Joe DiMaggio's stadium.
936
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,152
That's Joe DiMaggio's position.
937
00:38:41,235 --> 00:38:43,195
Who's Willie Mays?
938
00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:45,239
- Willie Mays
is a New York Giant.
939
00:38:45,322 --> 00:38:47,074
These are
San Francisco Giants.
940
00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,869
- They played at Seals Stadium
the first two years.
941
00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:52,705
Seals Stadium was big,
420 to center.
942
00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:54,707
- Without doubt,
Mays finds himself playing
943
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:58,085
in the shadow of San
Francisco's own Joe DiMaggio.
944
00:38:58,169 --> 00:38:59,754
San Francisco wants a winner,
945
00:38:59,837 --> 00:39:01,547
but the fans don't get it
those first years
946
00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:02,840
at Seals Stadium
947
00:39:02,923 --> 00:39:06,302
even with Mays hitting
a career high of .347 in 1958.
948
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:12,933
- Willie's gone through a lot
of racial discrimination
949
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:15,603
even here in San Francisco,
where San Francisco is probably
950
00:39:15,686 --> 00:39:19,565
the most unracist part
of this state
951
00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:20,900
that you can imagine.
952
00:39:20,983 --> 00:39:23,235
I mean, they'll shut down
anything for equality here,
953
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:25,029
which is--
I really respect and love.
954
00:39:25,112 --> 00:39:27,948
But, you know, at one point,
Willie did go through that.
955
00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:31,368
[cheering]
956
00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:35,456
- I think they accepted him
as a athletic star,
957
00:39:35,539 --> 00:39:39,293
but not as a person they wanted
to live next door to,
958
00:39:39,376 --> 00:39:42,880
not as a person that they wanna
have their kids hang out with.
959
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:47,802
In the late '50s,
San Francisco was different.
960
00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:51,097
For openers, you couldn't be
a policeman if you were Black.
961
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:52,681
You couldn't be
a deputy sheriff.
962
00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:54,141
You couldn't be a fireman.
963
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,352
You couldn't live
in certain parts of the city
964
00:39:56,435 --> 00:39:58,020
if you were Black.
965
00:39:58,104 --> 00:40:00,731
White people were more honest
in those days.
966
00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:02,983
They told you up-front
967
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,986
that you were not welcome
in the neighborhood,
968
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,988
and it was the same
all over the city.
969
00:40:09,532 --> 00:40:12,451
Willie wanted to live
on Miraloma Drive
970
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,120
in San Francisco.
971
00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:17,248
And Willie and his then-wife,
Margherite,
972
00:40:17,331 --> 00:40:20,126
tried to buy a house
in Miraloma Drive.
973
00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,002
- They picked out a home,
a beautiful home
974
00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,754
overlooking the water.
975
00:40:23,838 --> 00:40:26,465
And Willie was denied. Why?
976
00:40:26,549 --> 00:40:28,676
Because of the color
of his skin.
977
00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:33,013
- Willie Mays was a celebrity
of great stature.
978
00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:36,433
He could afford
the $35,000 or $40,000.
979
00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:38,352
The homes in that neighborhood,
980
00:40:38,435 --> 00:40:40,396
he could not buy there.
981
00:40:40,479 --> 00:40:42,481
The neighborhood went crazy.
982
00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:45,192
They didn't want Willie Mays
or anybody else Black
983
00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,360
in their neighborhood.
984
00:40:46,443 --> 00:40:48,028
Some white guy
sold him the house,
985
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,865
and then the guy had
to pull back.
986
00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:51,824
- The mayor said, "Hey,
987
00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:53,451
"you could live over here
with me.
988
00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:55,202
Live in my house
till you find another place."
989
00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:56,537
He said,
"No, I want this place."
990
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:58,247
The realtor said,
"Hey, I can find you
991
00:40:58,330 --> 00:40:59,373
another place
in another neighborhood."
992
00:40:59,456 --> 00:41:01,125
Willie said,
"No, I want this place."
993
00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:05,838
- An organization called
the Council for Civic Unity
994
00:41:05,921 --> 00:41:08,966
jumped in
on Willie Mays' behalf.
995
00:41:09,049 --> 00:41:10,342
- Did you make a deposit
on the house?
996
00:41:10,426 --> 00:41:11,552
- Yes, we did, yes.
997
00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:12,761
- I see.
998
00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:14,555
And, uh, there's been
some discussion
999
00:41:14,638 --> 00:41:17,099
about you not being able
to buy it, is that correct?
1000
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:18,726
- Well, not now.
The guy--
1001
00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:20,144
the owner just called me today
1002
00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:22,021
and said he was very happy
to sell me the house
1003
00:41:22,104 --> 00:41:23,856
in the--in the neighborhood.
1004
00:41:23,939 --> 00:41:25,816
- I see.
- I don't know where--
1005
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:28,819
- They finally did
get the house.
1006
00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:32,156
But it was over the objections
of the neighbors.
1007
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,824
- In years to come,
Mays would receive everything
1008
00:41:33,908 --> 00:41:35,743
from daily advice
in the newspapers...
1009
00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:36,869
[glass shattering]
To a bottle thrown
1010
00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:39,038
by a fanatic
through his front room window.
1011
00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:40,873
- That bottle came,
1012
00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:44,210
and it caused
the then-Mrs. Mays
1013
00:41:44,293 --> 00:41:46,086
to want to get back
to New York
1014
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:48,255
as fast as she could.
1015
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:52,134
And that may have contributed
to their divorce.
1016
00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:54,803
- You indicated that you
and Willie might move back
1017
00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:57,264
to New York after this season.
1018
00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:59,141
Does this mean
you like New York
1019
00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:00,768
or dislike San Francisco?
1020
00:42:00,851 --> 00:42:01,977
What's the real reason?
1021
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,105
- Well, we like San Francisco
and we like New York.
1022
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:08,651
And we still have a home
in the east.
1023
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:12,905
- Willie Mays' efforts
to get a house in this city
1024
00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:18,244
was as important
as his 660th home run
1025
00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:19,870
for San Francisco
1026
00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:24,416
because it launched
the real, dedicated effort
1027
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:26,460
to integrate this city.
1028
00:42:26,543 --> 00:42:27,795
- Willie got the house,
1029
00:42:27,878 --> 00:42:30,839
and he'll tell you
that it's not just for me.
1030
00:42:30,923 --> 00:42:33,300
It's for the next guy to move
into the neighborhood.
1031
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:36,095
It's for the next minority
who wants to buy a home there
1032
00:42:36,178 --> 00:42:38,806
because that next minority's
not gonna be Willie Mays.
1033
00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:43,477
Willie Mays had the power
to open the door for others.
1034
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,897
And in that particular case,
he did.
1035
00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:50,609
- In the end, the evidence
not only of his greatness,
1036
00:42:50,693 --> 00:42:53,946
but of the joy that he brought
to the field
1037
00:42:54,029 --> 00:42:55,322
transmitted to the fans.
1038
00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:58,993
Willie was about joy as much
as he was about greatness.
1039
00:42:59,076 --> 00:43:01,453
He won them over.
1040
00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:02,955
announcer:
Sophisticated San Francisco
1041
00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:05,332
lets its hair down
and embraces baseball
1042
00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:06,375
to its bosom.
1043
00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:08,168
Willie Mays
and his flashing plays make
1044
00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:09,795
an immediate hit.
1045
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:12,464
Willie Mays,
San Francisco's Say Hey hero,
1046
00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:15,217
hoists a humpback ball
to right.
1047
00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:17,344
Pafko just misses
the shoestring catch
1048
00:43:17,428 --> 00:43:20,597
as Mays blazes the bases
for a double.
1049
00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:23,684
Giant jubilation
literally rocks the joint.
1050
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:24,810
[cheers and applause]
1051
00:43:24,893 --> 00:43:26,854
- They played at Seals Stadium
1052
00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:28,480
the first two years,
'58 and '59,
1053
00:43:28,564 --> 00:43:30,357
while Candlestick
was being built.
1054
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:33,277
announcer: $15 million
Candlestick Park is opened
1055
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,862
by the San Francisco Giants
1056
00:43:34,945 --> 00:43:38,198
for the inaugural of the 1960
National League season.
1057
00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:41,368
Giants owner Horace Stoneham
welcomed vice president Nixon.
1058
00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:43,162
And with a Giant on base,
1059
00:43:43,245 --> 00:43:45,706
Willie Mays draws a walk.
1060
00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:49,209
- I think it was the writer
Jack London who said,
1061
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,253
"The coldest winter
I ever spent
1062
00:43:51,337 --> 00:43:53,380
was July in San Francisco."
1063
00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:56,133
That Candlestick Park
with the winds swirling
1064
00:43:56,216 --> 00:43:57,509
literally in June and July.
1065
00:43:57,593 --> 00:44:01,388
And those winds did not help
Willie Mays' home run total.
1066
00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:03,557
[Wes Montgomery's
"California Dreaming"]
1067
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,850
Candlestick Park,
1068
00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:06,393
the worst place
in the Bay Area
1069
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:08,562
to put a stadium,
right next to the bay,
1070
00:44:08,645 --> 00:44:10,981
windy, cold.
1071
00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:13,025
The designers brought
the city officials out
1072
00:44:13,108 --> 00:44:14,109
at 11:00 in the morning
and said,
1073
00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:15,527
"God, what a beautiful place."
1074
00:44:15,611 --> 00:44:16,862
Well, they didn't go at night.
1075
00:44:16,945 --> 00:44:18,697
'Cause if they showed up
at night,
1076
00:44:18,781 --> 00:44:20,657
it's the windiest place
on earth.
1077
00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:24,745
But that's where
Candlestick Park was built.
1078
00:44:24,828 --> 00:44:26,205
announcer: And for Mays
and the Giants,
1079
00:44:26,288 --> 00:44:27,873
playing at night
at Candlestick Park
1080
00:44:27,956 --> 00:44:31,293
can sometimes be quite
an experience.
1081
00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:33,337
[wind whistling]
1082
00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:35,255
- Candlestick Park
was open-air.
1083
00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,800
The winds would pour in
from left field generally.
1084
00:44:37,883 --> 00:44:41,428
- The wind would blow it
to the right center.
1085
00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:45,432
I had to wait until
that wind hit it,
1086
00:44:45,516 --> 00:44:47,935
and then it'd come...
come straight down.
1087
00:44:48,018 --> 00:44:50,979
- Willie was having home runs
knocked down to left field.
1088
00:44:51,063 --> 00:44:53,899
- I couldn't get the ball out
of the ballpark.
1089
00:44:53,982 --> 00:44:55,734
The wind would blow it back,
1090
00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:57,319
and I hit it hard.
1091
00:44:57,403 --> 00:44:58,737
- So Willie didn't complain.
1092
00:44:58,821 --> 00:45:01,698
He adjusted and learned how
to adapt his swing
1093
00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:02,741
to Candlestick Park.
1094
00:45:02,825 --> 00:45:04,493
There was a jet stream out
in right center,
1095
00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:06,578
so he got the ball up and out.
1096
00:45:06,662 --> 00:45:10,332
- I would've hit another 10.
Maybe 10 or 15.
1097
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,000
announcer: Diagonal hurler
Larry Jackson
1098
00:45:12,084 --> 00:45:14,586
gives Orlando Cepeda
one he likes.
1099
00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:16,463
[cheers and applause]
1100
00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:19,633
400 feet into deep center
for a triple.
1101
00:45:19,716 --> 00:45:21,468
- You have to go
to a night game
1102
00:45:21,552 --> 00:45:25,305
in Candlestick
so you can experience
1103
00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:27,808
the coldest night ever.
1104
00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:32,187
It was so cold
that you are afraid to swing
1105
00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:36,108
because you hit the ball hard
some place,
1106
00:45:36,191 --> 00:45:38,652
boy, you're really like this
for three innings.
1107
00:45:38,735 --> 00:45:41,572
[cheers and applause]
1108
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,121
The reason I came to play ball
was because of Willie,
1109
00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:54,042
when Willie Mays came
to Puerto Rico in 1954.
1110
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:56,420
- Players often would play
winter ball.
1111
00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:58,672
They would go not only
to hone their skills,
1112
00:45:58,755 --> 00:46:01,675
but to make extra money
in Puerto Rico
1113
00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:05,012
or sometimes even Cuba
back then.
1114
00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:07,514
It was huge
because the islands
1115
00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:10,184
would incorporate
their own players
1116
00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,352
with the great American
ball players.
1117
00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:14,605
- I was a bag boy
1118
00:46:14,688 --> 00:46:18,192
for the team that Willie play
in Puerto Rico.
1119
00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:20,319
After watching Willie play,
1120
00:46:20,402 --> 00:46:21,862
I want to be a ball player.
1121
00:46:21,945 --> 00:46:24,323
- The Giants signed quite
a few Latin players,
1122
00:46:24,406 --> 00:46:27,326
especially Dominican players.
1123
00:46:27,409 --> 00:46:29,870
The Giants got ahead
1124
00:46:29,953 --> 00:46:32,122
of the other
Major League teams.
1125
00:46:32,206 --> 00:46:34,416
- When I walked through
that gate
1126
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:37,586
to the San Francisco Giants
to go to the clubhouse,
1127
00:46:37,669 --> 00:46:41,256
Felipe Alou and Orlando Cepeda
was waiting for me,
1128
00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:44,218
and they gave me a big welcome.
1129
00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:47,471
They introduced me
to each player
1130
00:46:47,554 --> 00:46:50,057
in the San Francisco Giants.
1131
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:52,643
And I gonna be playing
the same field
1132
00:46:52,726 --> 00:46:54,561
with Willie Mays.
1133
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,021
[light upbeat music]
1134
00:47:19,711 --> 00:47:20,754
[laughs]
1135
00:47:20,837 --> 00:47:22,381
- [laughs]
1136
00:47:28,428 --> 00:47:30,973
[laughing]
He seems happy.
1137
00:47:31,056 --> 00:47:33,934
- This fella is the greatest
baseball player of our time.
1138
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:35,936
Mays is in a class by himself,
1139
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,480
then you start rating
the other ball players.
1140
00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:40,065
You start rating
the Mickey Mantles,
1141
00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:42,192
the Ted Williams,
the Stan Musials.
1142
00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:43,860
But none of them
could do the things
1143
00:47:43,944 --> 00:47:45,279
that Willie Mays could do
1144
00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:47,739
because Willie could do
so many things.
1145
00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:50,701
- He was shortstop
when I was in New York.
1146
00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:54,037
He came to California,
and he was my manager.
1147
00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:58,125
He made me the captain
of the whole team on the field.
1148
00:47:58,208 --> 00:48:00,294
Whatever I said,
that's what they did.
1149
00:48:00,377 --> 00:48:02,170
If they didn't do it,
they didn't play.
1150
00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:04,339
- You had the power
to bench a guy the next day
1151
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:06,675
regardless of what Alvin Dark
or Herman Franks
1152
00:48:06,758 --> 00:48:08,135
or whoever
was the manager said?
1153
00:48:08,218 --> 00:48:10,470
- Mm-hmm.
I ran the field, you know?
1154
00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:14,349
And I said to Herman,
"You run the bench.
1155
00:48:14,433 --> 00:48:16,518
I'll run the field."
- [laughs]
1156
00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:18,770
- I didn't have a coach
when I played.
1157
00:48:18,854 --> 00:48:20,105
I didn't have one.
1158
00:48:20,188 --> 00:48:22,691
Everything I did was on my own.
1159
00:48:22,774 --> 00:48:23,817
And I told him, I said,
1160
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:25,110
"Man, I don't know
if I can do that."
1161
00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:26,486
"Yes, you can.
1162
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:28,905
"You do whatever you wanna do
on the field,
1163
00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:31,074
and I'll take care of the rest
of it."
1164
00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:33,118
- You just had a sense
of the game.
1165
00:48:33,201 --> 00:48:36,622
- And the rule that we had
when I played:
1166
00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:38,123
just one hand.
1167
00:48:38,206 --> 00:48:41,335
It'd go left or right.
1168
00:48:41,418 --> 00:48:44,296
Anytime that hand moved,
you gotta move.
1169
00:48:44,379 --> 00:48:46,715
That's the only rule
we ever had in the outfield.
1170
00:48:46,798 --> 00:48:50,802
Now if you didn't see that,
you didn't play the next day.
1171
00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:52,012
Very simple.
1172
00:48:52,095 --> 00:48:53,597
- Willie was the leader
in our team.
1173
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,681
Yeah,
and there was no question,
1174
00:48:54,765 --> 00:48:55,724
no question about it.
1175
00:48:55,807 --> 00:48:57,684
We didn't have nobody
in the team
1176
00:48:57,768 --> 00:49:01,647
that could lead us the way
that Willie did.
1177
00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:05,442
- So we start gelling
very quickly.
1178
00:49:05,525 --> 00:49:07,986
All the guys began
to play together,
1179
00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:10,822
not no one man playing this,
one man playing that.
1180
00:49:10,906 --> 00:49:16,995
I wanted nine guys
on that field to play together.
1181
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,790
That's all I wanted,
and once we play together,
1182
00:49:19,873 --> 00:49:20,999
we can win.
1183
00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:22,834
announcer: Orlando Cepeda
hammers the ball
1184
00:49:22,918 --> 00:49:24,127
into deep right center.
1185
00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:25,921
Mays trots home from third,
1186
00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:28,548
and Cepeda pulls up
at second base with a double.
1187
00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:30,425
announcer: Marichal,
a perennial all-star,
1188
00:49:30,509 --> 00:49:32,386
is ready to take on
the American League's best
1189
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:33,679
once again.
1190
00:49:35,472 --> 00:49:37,265
announcer: After he retires
the first two,
1191
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:39,601
Lee Walls flies
to Willie Mays.
1192
00:49:39,685 --> 00:49:43,146
Charging in, Alou dives
and comes up with a ball.
1193
00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:45,607
- Marichal was one
of several Latin players
1194
00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:48,193
to pay handsome dividends
to the Giants.
1195
00:49:48,276 --> 00:49:51,238
- In '62, Willie had
an MVP-caliber year,
1196
00:49:51,321 --> 00:49:53,949
hit 49 home runs,
led San Francisco
1197
00:49:54,032 --> 00:49:55,325
to their first post-season.
1198
00:49:55,409 --> 00:49:57,411
They had this incredible
final week.
1199
00:49:57,494 --> 00:49:59,246
So now
it's a best-of-three playoff--
1200
00:49:59,329 --> 00:50:02,040
Giants and Dodgers,
just like '51.
1201
00:50:02,624 --> 00:50:04,376
Game three
is at Dodger Stadium.
1202
00:50:04,459 --> 00:50:06,253
This is the year
Dodger Stadium opened,
1203
00:50:06,336 --> 00:50:09,214
and they did big-time
box office business.
1204
00:50:09,297 --> 00:50:10,632
But the Dodgers go
to the ninth inning
1205
00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:11,758
ahead 4 to 2.
1206
00:50:11,842 --> 00:50:14,886
The Giants start rallying.
1207
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:17,597
The Giants get 4 runs
to go ahead 6 to 4.
1208
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:20,684
And Willie Mays had one
of the big hits in the rally.
1209
00:50:20,767 --> 00:50:22,269
The Dodgers just fell apart.
1210
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:25,188
And finally here's a fly ball
to Willie Mays in center field.
1211
00:50:25,272 --> 00:50:27,399
announcer: Lee Walls flies
to Willie Mays
1212
00:50:27,482 --> 00:50:28,567
for the final out.
1213
00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:29,735
- And he takes the ball out
of his glove,
1214
00:50:29,818 --> 00:50:31,903
and he flings it up
into the stands.
1215
00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:33,572
Giants have won the pennant.
1216
00:50:33,655 --> 00:50:35,782
announcer: And now it's on
to San Francisco
1217
00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:38,577
and the World Series
with the New York Yankees.
1218
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:40,662
[lively music]
1219
00:50:40,746 --> 00:50:42,789
- We played good
to beat the Dodgers.
1220
00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:45,709
And we played good
in the World Series
1221
00:50:45,792 --> 00:50:46,918
against the Yankees.
1222
00:50:47,002 --> 00:50:49,212
- The next day
they were facing Whitey Ford
1223
00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:50,797
at Candlestick Park.
1224
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,799
The World Series,
for the first time,
1225
00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:54,301
has come to San Francisco.
1226
00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:56,803
[soft music]
1227
00:50:56,887 --> 00:50:59,681
[cheers and applause]
1228
00:50:59,765 --> 00:51:00,974
announcer:
With the players lined up
1229
00:51:01,057 --> 00:51:03,810
on the infield,
the crowd comes to attention
1230
00:51:03,894 --> 00:51:05,020
for the national anthem.
1231
00:51:05,103 --> 00:51:07,939
- I remember we started it
in San Francisco.
1232
00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:09,608
They win one. We win one.
1233
00:51:09,691 --> 00:51:12,027
And we went to Yankee Stadium.
1234
00:51:12,110 --> 00:51:14,446
[excited chatter]
1235
00:51:14,529 --> 00:51:17,616
announcer: Willie Mays
takes batting practice.
1236
00:51:17,699 --> 00:51:19,785
The tying run is now
at the plate.
1237
00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:22,579
But Davenport flies to Tresh
for the final out.
1238
00:51:22,662 --> 00:51:25,081
And the Yankees again lead
in the series,
1239
00:51:25,165 --> 00:51:27,334
two games to one.
1240
00:51:27,417 --> 00:51:29,836
- And I--
I started the fourth game.
1241
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,547
I was pitching the best game
of my life.
1242
00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:34,549
I strike out Mickey Mantle
twice.
1243
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:36,468
I end up winning that game.
1244
00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:37,511
- Let's go!
1245
00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:40,806
- And then game five we lost.
1246
00:51:40,889 --> 00:51:42,891
We came back to San Francisco.
1247
00:51:42,974 --> 00:51:44,017
- They were coming back
from New York
1248
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,644
for games six and seven.
1249
00:51:45,727 --> 00:51:48,980
And there were several days
of rain.
1250
00:51:49,064 --> 00:51:52,025
The worst storm in a century
hit the Bay Area.
1251
00:51:52,108 --> 00:51:54,653
The field at Candlestick
had absorbed rain
1252
00:51:54,736 --> 00:51:56,530
for four days in a row.
1253
00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:57,572
It was wet.
1254
00:51:57,656 --> 00:51:58,698
They had brought in
helicopters.
1255
00:51:58,782 --> 00:51:59,991
There were these
incredible pictures
1256
00:52:00,075 --> 00:52:02,619
of the helicopters
hovering low over the field
1257
00:52:02,702 --> 00:52:04,955
at Candlestick 'cause they're
trying to dry off the field.
1258
00:52:05,038 --> 00:52:06,373
announcer:
The fans are on edge
1259
00:52:06,456 --> 00:52:08,834
because the Giants
ae fighting for survival.
1260
00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:11,044
Willie Mays never seems
to lose his zest
1261
00:52:11,127 --> 00:52:12,629
or his brilliance.
1262
00:52:12,712 --> 00:52:14,881
- So finally, the bottom
of the ninth inning
1263
00:52:14,965 --> 00:52:15,924
of game seven...
1264
00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:19,052
- Willie's at the plate.
1265
00:52:19,135 --> 00:52:20,720
The ninth inning
of the seventh game
1266
00:52:20,804 --> 00:52:22,764
of the 1962 World Series.
1267
00:52:22,848 --> 00:52:25,767
[low suspenseful music]
1268
00:52:25,851 --> 00:52:27,727
♪ ♪
1269
00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:29,521
- Before I got to bat,
1270
00:52:29,604 --> 00:52:32,649
Matty Alou bunted.
1271
00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:34,860
[cheers and applause]
1272
00:52:34,943 --> 00:52:37,195
- Matty Alou was on first base
with two out.
1273
00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:38,488
Yankees lead 1-0.
1274
00:52:38,572 --> 00:52:39,656
Willie's the hitter.
1275
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:43,368
He doubles down
the right field line.
1276
00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,078
- But when I hit the ball,
1277
00:52:45,161 --> 00:52:47,539
it didn't go to the fence like
it usually go.
1278
00:52:47,622 --> 00:52:51,167
He caught it before it went
to the fence, but it was wet.
1279
00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:52,919
- Roger Maris makes
a really good play
1280
00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:54,796
to cut it off before it gets
to the fence.
1281
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,881
- He fielded a wet ba--
1282
00:52:55,964 --> 00:52:57,549
it had to be
a soaking wet baseball,
1283
00:52:57,632 --> 00:53:00,010
and he fired
a perfect relay throw
1284
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:01,469
to Bobby Richardson,
the second baseman,
1285
00:53:01,553 --> 00:53:03,263
who was a Gold Glover,
and then Richardson threw
1286
00:53:03,346 --> 00:53:04,222
to the plate on one hop
1287
00:53:04,306 --> 00:53:06,057
right to Elston Howard,
the catcher.
1288
00:53:08,184 --> 00:53:11,813
The third base coach held up
Matty Alou.
1289
00:53:11,897 --> 00:53:13,773
And the story was always felt
1290
00:53:13,857 --> 00:53:17,611
that Matty would've been dead
if he'd tried to score.
1291
00:53:17,694 --> 00:53:19,738
But Willie...
1292
00:53:19,821 --> 00:53:22,240
- I asked Willie about that.
1293
00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:24,534
Willie said to me,
1294
00:53:24,618 --> 00:53:27,913
"If I had been the runner
instead of the batter,
1295
00:53:27,996 --> 00:53:30,916
"I would've run right through
that stop sign.
1296
00:53:30,999 --> 00:53:34,294
I would've made them
make a perfect play to get me."
1297
00:53:34,377 --> 00:53:38,131
- And he held up Matty at third
and me at second.
1298
00:53:38,214 --> 00:53:40,133
- The next batter is McCovey.
1299
00:53:40,216 --> 00:53:41,635
He hit a line drive.
1300
00:53:41,718 --> 00:53:43,803
[cheers and applause]
1301
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:46,473
- Willie McCovey hit right
to Bobby Richardson.
1302
00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:52,812
- And he caught the ball
in short right--right field.
1303
00:53:52,896 --> 00:53:55,690
- A couple inches either way,
and the Giants score 2 runs
1304
00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:57,275
and win the game 2 to 1.
1305
00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:59,653
announcer: The 20th
world championship won
1306
00:53:59,736 --> 00:54:02,364
by the New York Yankees.
1307
00:54:02,447 --> 00:54:05,325
He's carried off the field
on the shoulders...
1308
00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:06,952
[cheers and applause]
1309
00:54:07,035 --> 00:54:09,162
- The Giants won only one
pennant in the '60s,
1310
00:54:09,245 --> 00:54:11,539
but they had the best record
in the '60s.
1311
00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:14,125
They finished second
five straight years.
1312
00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:16,378
They were a great team.
1313
00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:20,757
- We had seven Latin players,
1314
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,801
so we would talk Spanish.
1315
00:54:22,884 --> 00:54:26,012
I remember in the dugout
one time, you know,
1316
00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:27,681
I don't wanna say the name
who did it,
1317
00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:30,892
but he came up to me and said,
"Juan, speak English.
1318
00:54:30,976 --> 00:54:32,352
You in America."
1319
00:54:35,772 --> 00:54:38,316
- Alvin Dark turned off a lot
of minorities.
1320
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,861
He said some things,
some very regrettable things.
1321
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:44,948
- I remember what happened
to Orlando.
1322
00:54:45,031 --> 00:54:46,992
- Well, in my case,
1323
00:54:47,075 --> 00:54:50,161
because I like--
I love music so much,
1324
00:54:50,245 --> 00:54:55,625
I carried my record player
with me on the big LP.
1325
00:54:55,709 --> 00:54:59,212
But Alvin Dark,
because he don't like music,
1326
00:54:59,295 --> 00:55:00,880
he tried to stop me.
1327
00:55:00,964 --> 00:55:05,677
And he gave order
1328
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,388
to the clubhouse man
1329
00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:12,892
for me not to bring my music
with me on the road.
1330
00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:16,062
If I can't bring my music
with me,
1331
00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:18,064
I'm not going nowhere.
1332
00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:21,484
- He would not allow Spanish
to be spoken in the clubhouse.
1333
00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:22,944
[somber music]
1334
00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:24,571
Cepeda and some
of the other minorities
1335
00:55:24,654 --> 00:55:25,530
were ready to walk out.
1336
00:55:25,613 --> 00:55:27,073
It was gonna be a mutiny.
1337
00:55:27,157 --> 00:55:31,036
- Willie had to talk to Alvin
about the situation.
1338
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:35,498
- He says, "You go
and you do what you have to do,
1339
00:55:35,582 --> 00:55:38,793
and I will back you up
for the fullest."
1340
00:55:38,877 --> 00:55:40,587
And he did.
1341
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:42,589
Alvin Dark. That's what I said.
1342
00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:44,924
A lot of people say,
"Well, he's a racist."
1343
00:55:45,008 --> 00:55:46,384
I don't think so.
1344
00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:50,472
- Willie got in between,
1345
00:55:50,555 --> 00:55:55,018
and Willie tried to tell me,
"You a baseball player.
1346
00:55:55,101 --> 00:55:58,813
"Put aside the manager,
whatever he say.
1347
00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:02,233
If you do well,
everybody gonna like you."
1348
00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:03,902
So that really helped me.
1349
00:56:03,985 --> 00:56:05,528
- Willie was always like that.
1350
00:56:05,612 --> 00:56:06,780
He was, um,
1351
00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:09,449
he just saw things differently,
you know?
1352
00:56:09,532 --> 00:56:12,077
Willie just said, just--
"Let's play the game.
1353
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,578
"You know, let's just--we got--
1354
00:56:13,661 --> 00:56:15,080
we got to stick together.
Let's just play the game."
1355
00:56:15,163 --> 00:56:19,209
He had just a different
perspective on things and a--
1356
00:56:19,292 --> 00:56:23,129
more of a outgoing personality
toward that.
1357
00:56:24,714 --> 00:56:26,633
- Alvin kept doing it.
1358
00:56:26,716 --> 00:56:28,551
There was gonna be a mutiny.
1359
00:56:28,635 --> 00:56:31,971
Alvin was fired
after the season.
1360
00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:33,640
So Willie's a great uniter.
1361
00:56:33,723 --> 00:56:36,976
He's a great peacemaker,
the captain.
1362
00:56:38,645 --> 00:56:41,356
The Giants had the best
road attendance
1363
00:56:41,439 --> 00:56:43,775
in the National League
throughout the '60s.
1364
00:56:43,858 --> 00:56:46,111
They had the Alou brothers.
1365
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:47,278
They had Cepeda.
1366
00:56:47,362 --> 00:56:49,489
They had McCovey,
Marichal, Perry.
1367
00:56:49,572 --> 00:56:52,075
But it was Mays
who brought the fans in.
1368
00:56:52,158 --> 00:56:53,952
It was Mays who united
that team,
1369
00:56:54,035 --> 00:56:55,578
who made that team good enough
1370
00:56:55,662 --> 00:56:58,790
for everybody
to wanna go see the Giants.
1371
00:56:58,873 --> 00:57:01,709
- I got this Willie Mays bat
last week.
1372
00:57:01,793 --> 00:57:03,128
I told the youngsters
of the country
1373
00:57:03,211 --> 00:57:06,005
that I'd ask you to give them
a couple of tips on hitting.
1374
00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:07,715
- Well, I could've used
this bat today, Ed.
1375
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:10,385
- [laughs]
- Why you give it to me now?
1376
00:57:10,468 --> 00:57:13,054
- Willie was so naturally
effervescent
1377
00:57:13,138 --> 00:57:15,807
and such a gifted storyteller
1378
00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:18,852
and so comfortable in front
of the cameras
1379
00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:22,313
that much of white America
felt comfortable with him.
1380
00:57:22,397 --> 00:57:25,525
He wasn't outwardly political,
so that might--
1381
00:57:25,608 --> 00:57:27,318
may have put people at ease.
1382
00:57:27,402 --> 00:57:29,362
- Hey, Sam!
1383
00:57:29,445 --> 00:57:30,697
- Say Hey, Willie!
1384
00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:33,491
- I did three
or four different things
1385
00:57:33,575 --> 00:57:35,493
that came out of Hollywood.
1386
00:57:35,577 --> 00:57:37,162
[phone rings]
1387
00:57:37,245 --> 00:57:39,164
[bright music]
1388
00:57:39,247 --> 00:57:40,999
- Donna.
- Willie.
1389
00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:42,667
What a nice surprise.
- How are you?
1390
00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:43,710
- Will you join us?
1391
00:57:43,793 --> 00:57:45,253
- Oh, no. Thank you, Donna.
1392
00:57:45,336 --> 00:57:46,713
I just stopped by
to see a friend of mine.
1393
00:57:46,796 --> 00:57:47,922
He owns this place.
- Oh.
1394
00:57:48,006 --> 00:57:49,632
- He used to be an umpire,
you know?
1395
00:57:49,716 --> 00:57:51,718
- I remember asking Willie
about this.
1396
00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:55,555
There are no Black people
on any of these sitcoms,
1397
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:57,765
but Willie Mays
would just show up
1398
00:57:57,849 --> 00:58:00,018
as if that was
a natural course of things.
1399
00:58:00,101 --> 00:58:04,189
So here's Donna Reed having
lunch with a white lady,
1400
00:58:04,272 --> 00:58:05,899
and all of a sudden,
Willie Mays shows up.
1401
00:58:05,982 --> 00:58:08,526
- Oh, wait till I tell
the doctor
1402
00:58:08,610 --> 00:58:11,571
that I met little ol' Say Hey.
1403
00:58:11,654 --> 00:58:14,574
- The incongruity of the scene
was apparently lost
1404
00:58:14,657 --> 00:58:18,536
on most viewers, and then
he walked away with the check.
1405
00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:21,539
- I did "The Tonight Show,"
"What's My Line?"
1406
00:58:21,623 --> 00:58:22,832
"Ed Sullivan."
1407
00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,542
- What's the greatest streak
you've ever had in baseball,
1408
00:58:24,626 --> 00:58:26,711
would you say?
- Well, my--I have two.
1409
00:58:26,794 --> 00:58:29,923
I--my greatest
in baseball was last week
1410
00:58:30,006 --> 00:58:34,427
when I hit my 512 home runs,
enough to break Mel Ott.
1411
00:58:34,510 --> 00:58:36,221
[applause]
1412
00:58:36,304 --> 00:58:40,099
- Just a couple of days
before his birthday in 1966,
1413
00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:43,102
Willie Mays hit number 512.
1414
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:45,772
He broke Mel Ott's
National League record
1415
00:58:45,855 --> 00:58:49,025
and became the number one
home run slugger
1416
00:58:49,108 --> 00:58:50,735
in National League history.
1417
00:58:50,818 --> 00:58:52,237
Giants were in New York.
1418
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,280
"The Ed Sullivan Show"
was the big national show
1419
00:58:54,364 --> 00:58:56,241
on Sunday nights
that was live.
1420
00:58:56,324 --> 00:58:58,910
His fame has gone
coast-to-coast by that time.
1421
00:58:58,993 --> 00:59:01,746
[wind whistling]
1422
00:59:01,829 --> 00:59:04,749
[soft vocalizing]
1423
00:59:04,832 --> 00:59:07,210
- Willie Mays lives alone
behind miles
1424
00:59:07,293 --> 00:59:08,628
of drawn curtains,
1425
00:59:08,711 --> 00:59:12,799
searching for whatever privacy
there is off the field,
1426
00:59:12,882 --> 00:59:15,802
that quiet time alone.
1427
00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:19,847
The life of a celebrity
is not always ideal.
1428
00:59:19,931 --> 00:59:22,976
You have to pay a price that
quite often is greater than
1429
00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:27,438
or as great as the cheers
and plaudits and the wealth.
1430
00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:33,403
- So San Francisco was not like
the center of Black folk
1431
00:59:33,486 --> 00:59:36,239
because it was not as social.
1432
00:59:36,322 --> 00:59:39,784
There was no such thing
as a Black Harlem
1433
00:59:39,867 --> 00:59:41,786
in the Bay Area
and in the city.
1434
00:59:41,869 --> 00:59:45,540
At some point,
Margherite and Willie Mays,
1435
00:59:45,623 --> 00:59:47,542
they got divorced.
1436
00:59:47,625 --> 00:59:49,502
[smooth jazz music]
1437
00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:53,256
Willie Mays
is not a social butterfly.
1438
00:59:53,339 --> 00:59:56,301
Even today,
that's who Willie Mays is.
1439
00:59:56,384 --> 01:00:00,722
He was never a player,
a street player.
1440
01:00:00,805 --> 01:00:02,515
He was a baseball player.
1441
01:00:02,598 --> 01:00:04,851
But being Willie Mays,
you know, Willie Mays was--
1442
01:00:04,934 --> 01:00:06,394
he's always with it.
1443
01:00:06,477 --> 01:00:09,105
- Willie home, decorated all
in gold and white,
1444
01:00:09,188 --> 01:00:12,817
is high on a hill overlooking
the famous Golden Gate Bridge.
1445
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:15,361
He leads the gracious life
of a superstar
1446
01:00:15,445 --> 01:00:17,655
in these luxury surroundings.
1447
01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:20,408
- Yeah, that was
the best house to be a kid in.
1448
01:00:20,491 --> 01:00:22,452
He cut a hole
in the living room floor
1449
01:00:22,535 --> 01:00:24,787
and put, like,
a spiral staircase
1450
01:00:24,871 --> 01:00:28,666
down to the garage,
so it was like the Batcave.
1451
01:00:28,750 --> 01:00:30,001
[engine turns over]
1452
01:00:30,084 --> 01:00:32,128
- The gold clock says 10:15
1453
01:00:32,211 --> 01:00:33,338
and time to be going
to the park
1454
01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:35,298
to play Los Angeles again.
1455
01:00:35,381 --> 01:00:37,383
Willie, after a night game
and a late meal,
1456
01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:39,052
gets home past midnight,
1457
01:00:39,135 --> 01:00:41,220
so there's very little time
to relax.
1458
01:00:41,304 --> 01:00:44,932
The games just keep coming,
night and day.
1459
01:00:45,016 --> 01:00:46,434
- The fans have been very good
to me.
1460
01:00:46,517 --> 01:00:48,227
They've been great, and they
always been coming in,
1461
01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:50,563
but I don't worry about
the grown people too much.
1462
01:00:50,646 --> 01:00:52,648
I worry more about the kids.
1463
01:00:52,732 --> 01:00:53,649
- I'm Mike Murphy.
1464
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:55,526
I've been with the Giants
for 63 years.
1465
01:00:55,610 --> 01:00:57,028
I started as a bat boy.
1466
01:00:57,111 --> 01:00:58,738
If you needed something,
you go see Willie.
1467
01:00:58,821 --> 01:01:00,490
He took care of me
when I was a kid.
1468
01:01:00,573 --> 01:01:02,325
He'd give us money
to go eat lunch
1469
01:01:02,408 --> 01:01:03,493
or "Here, kids, here.
1470
01:01:03,576 --> 01:01:05,203
Here's 20 bucks. Go eat lunch."
1471
01:01:05,286 --> 01:01:07,121
20 bucks in the '50s
was a lot of money.
1472
01:01:07,205 --> 01:01:08,373
He'd never refuse anybody.
1473
01:01:08,456 --> 01:01:11,084
And, you know, kids go up
to him and, you know,
1474
01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:14,253
ask him for autographs
and everything.
1475
01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:15,546
- When he arrives
at Candlestick,
1476
01:01:15,630 --> 01:01:17,298
the kids are there
to greet him.
1477
01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:18,383
[kids cheering]
And beyond the gate,
1478
01:01:18,466 --> 01:01:20,593
his quiet, private hours
are over.
1479
01:01:20,676 --> 01:01:23,429
- I bet you every one of
those kids got an autograph,
1480
01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:26,349
baseball, or photograph
from him
1481
01:01:26,432 --> 01:01:29,394
because that's who Willie Mays
really was.
1482
01:01:29,477 --> 01:01:32,730
And that made him
an even bigger star.
1483
01:01:32,814 --> 01:01:36,567
He surpassed
the white superstars.
1484
01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:38,194
- He comes from a family
1485
01:01:38,277 --> 01:01:41,739
and a place where everybody
helps everybody.
1486
01:01:41,823 --> 01:01:43,574
I guess
he's paying it forward.
1487
01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:45,410
He's seeing people
are helping me.
1488
01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:47,912
I need to help people.
1489
01:01:47,995 --> 01:01:49,580
- Willie is in the prime
of his career
1490
01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:51,833
with the San Francisco Giants.
1491
01:01:51,916 --> 01:01:55,086
So many people,
not just ballplayers
1492
01:01:55,169 --> 01:01:56,170
or even athletes,
1493
01:01:56,254 --> 01:01:58,339
people who grew up
in that area
1494
01:01:58,423 --> 01:02:02,093
in various walks of life speak
with such reverence
1495
01:02:02,176 --> 01:02:03,428
about Willie Mays
1496
01:02:03,511 --> 01:02:06,097
and what he meant
to their childhood
1497
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:08,057
or their adolescence.
1498
01:02:08,141 --> 01:02:10,351
He was a gigantic star.
1499
01:02:10,435 --> 01:02:12,687
- Willie Mays played
so frequently
1500
01:02:12,770 --> 01:02:14,272
and he was so durable
1501
01:02:14,355 --> 01:02:19,735
that from 1951 through 1962,
he missed 21 games.
1502
01:02:19,819 --> 01:02:21,112
Giants lost 14 of 'em.
1503
01:02:21,195 --> 01:02:24,115
So no wonder managers wanted
him to play every single day.
1504
01:02:24,198 --> 01:02:25,950
He played to an extent
1505
01:02:26,033 --> 01:02:29,620
that he was literally
exhausted and passed out.
1506
01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:32,290
This happened three
or four times in his career
1507
01:02:32,373 --> 01:02:34,625
and was rushed to the hospital
1508
01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:37,920
and would often spend a couple
of nights at the hospital,
1509
01:02:38,004 --> 01:02:39,839
where he'd be rejuvenated,
1510
01:02:39,922 --> 01:02:41,716
and return to the field
and keep playin'.
1511
01:02:41,799 --> 01:02:44,302
But in the '50s and '60s,
that was Willie Mays.
1512
01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:49,015
He did not wanna stop
until he literally passed out.
1513
01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:52,852
- I think the era of baseball
at that time was,
1514
01:02:52,935 --> 01:02:54,187
you don't get sick,
you don't get hurt,
1515
01:02:54,270 --> 01:02:55,646
you don't get tired.
1516
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:56,856
Black players don't get that.
1517
01:02:56,939 --> 01:02:58,524
That we play every day.
1518
01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,818
I learned that from those guys.
1519
01:03:00,902 --> 01:03:03,988
That was the Mays era
and start of my era.
1520
01:03:04,071 --> 01:03:06,365
The easy jobs
in the front office
1521
01:03:06,449 --> 01:03:08,326
that paid six figures,
1522
01:03:08,409 --> 01:03:10,495
Black players don't get
those kind of jobs.
1523
01:03:10,578 --> 01:03:12,747
Those are
for the white players.
1524
01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:15,374
- We knew
what the situation was
1525
01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:17,585
because by 1968,
1526
01:03:17,668 --> 01:03:21,172
the masses of Blacks
had grown tired
1527
01:03:21,255 --> 01:03:24,342
and impatient
with litigation and legislation
1528
01:03:24,425 --> 01:03:25,593
and gradualism.
1529
01:03:25,676 --> 01:03:29,222
They began to struggle
for dignity and respect.
1530
01:03:29,305 --> 01:03:30,932
We're gonna do
what we're going to do
1531
01:03:31,015 --> 01:03:32,225
regardless whether
the white folks believe us
1532
01:03:32,308 --> 01:03:33,726
or not.
You see what I'm saying?
1533
01:03:33,809 --> 01:03:35,019
- And that's boycott?
1534
01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:36,479
- I am saying
that we are going to do
1535
01:03:36,562 --> 01:03:37,688
what is in the interest
of Black people,
1536
01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:39,106
whatever it is.
1537
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:43,027
That's when the athletes
in the mid-late 1960s decided
1538
01:03:43,110 --> 01:03:47,240
we've got to make a clean,
hard break with our fathers.
1539
01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:49,867
Not just Willie Mays,
1540
01:03:49,951 --> 01:03:52,537
but that whole era of athletes
1541
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:55,498
who found it necessary
and imperative
1542
01:03:55,581 --> 01:03:58,543
to simply shut up and play.
1543
01:03:58,626 --> 01:04:02,004
And you had Jim Brown,
Muhammad Ali,
1544
01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:03,381
and Bill Russell.
1545
01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:04,882
You had Arthur Ashe.
1546
01:04:04,966 --> 01:04:07,593
You Tommie Smith
and John Carlos,
1547
01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:08,928
who took it international.
1548
01:04:09,011 --> 01:04:13,266
These athletes were saying,
"We're not just commodities
1549
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:15,434
"for your entertainment
and pleasure.
1550
01:04:15,518 --> 01:04:19,105
"We are full, complete,
and total human beings,
1551
01:04:19,188 --> 01:04:21,566
and we demand
to be treated as such."
1552
01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:23,776
Said that
on a international stage
1553
01:04:23,859 --> 01:04:27,905
12 years after Jackie Robinson
had retired.
1554
01:04:27,989 --> 01:04:29,574
He made the statement,
1555
01:04:29,657 --> 01:04:31,325
"I never had it made
1556
01:04:31,409 --> 01:04:33,911
"because I realize
I'm a Black man
1557
01:04:33,995 --> 01:04:36,497
in a racist white society."
1558
01:04:36,581 --> 01:04:38,666
Willie didn't want any part
of that.
1559
01:04:38,749 --> 01:04:43,129
And this is where
he actually drew criticism
1560
01:04:43,212 --> 01:04:44,297
from Jackie Robinson.
1561
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:46,674
[somber music]
1562
01:04:46,757 --> 01:04:47,633
- "Willie's personable
1563
01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:48,676
"and has great talent,
1564
01:04:48,759 --> 01:04:50,428
"but he's never matured.
1565
01:04:50,511 --> 01:04:52,305
"He continues to ignore
the most important issue
1566
01:04:52,388 --> 01:04:53,598
"of our time.
1567
01:04:53,681 --> 01:04:55,016
"He's never had
any decent guidance
1568
01:04:55,099 --> 01:04:56,851
"in these matters
and probably keeps looking
1569
01:04:56,934 --> 01:04:59,645
"only to his security
as a great star.
1570
01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,647
"It's a damn shame
he's never taken part.
1571
01:05:01,731 --> 01:05:03,608
"He doesn't realize he
wouldn't be where he is today
1572
01:05:03,691 --> 01:05:05,985
"without the battles
that others have fought.
1573
01:05:06,068 --> 01:05:07,778
"He thinks
it's not his concern,
1574
01:05:07,862 --> 01:05:09,363
"but it is.
1575
01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:11,449
Jackie Robinson."
1576
01:05:11,532 --> 01:05:13,284
- Jackie ripped him.
1577
01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:15,119
He said,
"Wouldn't it be wonderful
1578
01:05:15,202 --> 01:05:18,289
"if this young superstar
could tell us
1579
01:05:18,372 --> 01:05:20,958
"about leaving Birmingham,
1580
01:05:21,042 --> 01:05:23,836
"and being denied at the house
in San Francisco,
1581
01:05:23,919 --> 01:05:25,838
and overcoming it all?"
1582
01:05:25,921 --> 01:05:27,381
- I think that's totally unfair
1583
01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,175
'cause Willie's always been
outspoken.
1584
01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:30,593
It's just
that Willie saw things
1585
01:05:30,676 --> 01:05:34,513
a little bit more calmer,
I guess you can say.
1586
01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:36,015
- Willie's father
always told him,
1587
01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,184
"Don't create chaos.
Don't pop off.
1588
01:05:38,267 --> 01:05:39,560
Don't say too much."
1589
01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:41,187
Just put your head down,
run the bases,
1590
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:42,688
and play the game right.
1591
01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:45,816
And Willie took that to heart.
1592
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:47,985
- Some marched and protested.
1593
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:50,905
Some won gold medals
in the World Series.
1594
01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:52,657
It's about humanizing us.
1595
01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:54,492
That's what happened
in the '60s.
1596
01:05:54,575 --> 01:05:57,495
It's, these people
made it impossible
1597
01:05:57,578 --> 01:06:01,499
for us to be dismissed,
ignored.
1598
01:06:01,582 --> 01:06:03,334
They brought the light.
1599
01:06:03,417 --> 01:06:07,588
- "Different people do things
in different ways.
1600
01:06:07,672 --> 01:06:10,049
"I can, for instance,
go out and picket.
1601
01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:13,010
"I can't stand on a soapbox
and preach.
1602
01:06:13,094 --> 01:06:15,554
"That simply isn't my nature.
1603
01:06:15,638 --> 01:06:17,598
"People like Mr. King
and Mr. Wilkins
1604
01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:19,475
"are better equipped
than I am.
1605
01:06:19,558 --> 01:06:21,394
"But it's not true
what Robinson said about
1606
01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:24,021
"my not doing anything
for race relationships.
1607
01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,856
"I've worked
for the Job Corps,
1608
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:27,358
"and I don't know
how many kid's groups
1609
01:06:27,441 --> 01:06:30,528
"I've addressed
and will continue to address.
1610
01:06:30,611 --> 01:06:33,572
"In my own way,
I believe I'm helping.
1611
01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:35,866
"You see, I've been doing
things a long time
1612
01:06:35,950 --> 01:06:37,868
"along this line,
but I want no credit.
1613
01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:40,538
"Everyone must do his own job
in his own way,
1614
01:06:40,621 --> 01:06:42,957
"and in my heart,
my way is just as important
1615
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,209
"as Jackie Robinson's way.
1616
01:06:45,292 --> 01:06:48,170
"I believe understanding
is the important thing.
1617
01:06:48,254 --> 01:06:50,256
"In my talks to kids,
I've tried my best
1618
01:06:50,339 --> 01:06:52,383
"to get that message across.
1619
01:06:52,466 --> 01:06:55,177
"It makes no difference
whether you are Black or white
1620
01:06:55,261 --> 01:06:57,096
"because we are all
God's children
1621
01:06:57,179 --> 01:06:59,432
"fighting for the same cause.
1622
01:06:59,515 --> 01:07:01,434
"Let's talk about progress
for a while.
1623
01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:03,936
"Just look around out there
in the clubhouse.
1624
01:07:04,019 --> 01:07:05,771
"There are an awful lot
of southern boys
1625
01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:09,358
"on this team, yet we live
and play together in harmony.
1626
01:07:09,442 --> 01:07:12,570
"It was not possible
15, 16 years ago.
1627
01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:14,613
"Today's kids
don't have the hardships
1628
01:07:14,697 --> 01:07:15,948
"Jackie and I had,
1629
01:07:16,031 --> 01:07:18,159
"and they realize
and appreciate it.
1630
01:07:18,242 --> 01:07:21,287
"Today, for instance, we play
as many as five or six Negroes
1631
01:07:21,370 --> 01:07:23,539
"at the same time
on our ball club.
1632
01:07:23,622 --> 01:07:25,583
"And once in Atlanta,
we had eight or nine in there
1633
01:07:25,666 --> 01:07:29,128
"at the same time, and Atlanta
is a Southern town.
1634
01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:31,130
Willie Mays."
1635
01:07:31,213 --> 01:07:32,631
- Harry Edwards' famous book,
1636
01:07:32,715 --> 01:07:34,258
"The Revolt
of the Black Athlete,"
1637
01:07:34,341 --> 01:07:36,761
that's something particular
to the '60s.
1638
01:07:36,844 --> 01:07:38,137
Willie came along
1639
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:41,307
before anybody knew
who Cassius Clay was.
1640
01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:45,102
So I wanna judge Willie Mays
as Willie Mays.
1641
01:07:45,186 --> 01:07:46,896
- Willie's always been
outspoken.
1642
01:07:46,979 --> 01:07:49,064
It's just
that those were the gentlemen
1643
01:07:49,148 --> 01:07:50,983
that were picked at that time,
1644
01:07:51,066 --> 01:07:54,487
as well as Martin Luther King
was our representation
1645
01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:57,823
of freedom for Blacks
at the time.
1646
01:07:57,907 --> 01:07:59,950
Willie just wasn't
on that panel.
1647
01:08:00,034 --> 01:08:02,912
Doesn't necessarily mean
Willie wasn't outspoken
1648
01:08:02,995 --> 01:08:04,663
for what he believed in.
1649
01:08:04,747 --> 01:08:06,457
He believed
in what they were saying,
1650
01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:08,459
and maybe Willie
at that time felt
1651
01:08:08,542 --> 01:08:10,002
they were the right candidate
for that.
1652
01:08:10,085 --> 01:08:12,671
- Well, it's almost unfair
to suggest
1653
01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:15,341
that Willie Mays
should do anything
1654
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:19,178
other than be
the proficient professional
1655
01:08:19,261 --> 01:08:22,556
he needed to be
as a baseball player.
1656
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:28,604
Black people have imposed upon
them the dual responsibility
1657
01:08:28,687 --> 01:08:30,981
to not only represent
all Black people,
1658
01:08:31,065 --> 01:08:34,485
but to make it comfortable
for even some racists
1659
01:08:34,568 --> 01:08:37,655
to interact
without ever accepting
1660
01:08:37,738 --> 01:08:39,657
the racist response,
1661
01:08:39,740 --> 01:08:42,326
you are okay,
but the rest of you are not.
1662
01:08:42,409 --> 01:08:45,121
And that's kind of the way
Willie Mays was treated.
1663
01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:48,332
He became "okay,
but the rest of them not."
1664
01:08:48,415 --> 01:08:51,877
And to the extent
that he could be helpful,
1665
01:08:51,961 --> 01:08:53,546
with the NAACP,
1666
01:08:53,629 --> 01:08:55,714
with the Council
for Civic Unity,
1667
01:08:55,798 --> 01:08:57,842
with all
the other organizations,
1668
01:08:57,925 --> 01:09:00,719
and with individuals
like Willie Brown,
1669
01:09:00,803 --> 01:09:03,722
the upcoming lawyer,
politician,
1670
01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:05,057
Willie Mays was helpful.
1671
01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:08,727
And we all are not gonna be
Muhammad Ali.
1672
01:09:08,811 --> 01:09:11,146
- Willie did things
for people behind the scenes,
1673
01:09:11,230 --> 01:09:13,691
in the dugout,
in the clubhouse, at his home.
1674
01:09:13,774 --> 01:09:15,484
So I spoke with Joe Morgan,
1675
01:09:15,568 --> 01:09:19,363
Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson,
Maury Wills.
1676
01:09:19,446 --> 01:09:22,575
All of 'em, to a man, said,
"It's wrong to say
1677
01:09:22,658 --> 01:09:25,703
"that Willie didn't do enough
because he was there for me.
1678
01:09:25,786 --> 01:09:27,121
"He was there for us.
1679
01:09:27,204 --> 01:09:28,873
"He opened the door for us.
1680
01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:32,418
And he did so much more than
people give him credit for."
1681
01:09:32,501 --> 01:09:37,548
- I met Willie Mays
in spring training in 1968.
1682
01:09:37,631 --> 01:09:39,925
And he came out
of the Giants' dugout and he--
1683
01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,927
"Where is this
Reggie Jackson at?
1684
01:09:42,011 --> 01:09:45,097
"This Reggie Jackson kid,
I wanna see this kid.
1685
01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:47,808
"Reggie Jackson, they tell me
he's a great player.
1686
01:09:47,892 --> 01:09:50,603
"He's got a lot of power.
1687
01:09:50,686 --> 01:09:52,229
Where's this kid,
Reggie Jackson?"
1688
01:09:52,313 --> 01:09:54,648
And I was
the Arizona State kid.
1689
01:09:54,732 --> 01:09:56,567
He wanted to introduce himself
to me,
1690
01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:59,570
and I was absolutely thrilled.
1691
01:09:59,653 --> 01:10:02,781
I learned so much from Willie.
1692
01:10:02,865 --> 01:10:05,242
- As Willie started getting
up there in years,
1693
01:10:05,326 --> 01:10:07,411
every time there would be
a young outfielder
1694
01:10:07,494 --> 01:10:09,121
who had promise,
there was always talk
1695
01:10:09,204 --> 01:10:11,582
of him being
the next Willie Mays.
1696
01:10:11,665 --> 01:10:12,875
Bobby Bonds,
1697
01:10:12,958 --> 01:10:15,169
that was the guy
they really thought
1698
01:10:15,252 --> 01:10:17,463
could really be
the next Willie Mays.
1699
01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:21,175
announcer: Bobby Bonds
is off and running.
1700
01:10:21,258 --> 01:10:24,929
- He had tremendous speed,
tremendous power.
1701
01:10:25,012 --> 01:10:26,472
Great base-stealer.
1702
01:10:26,555 --> 01:10:28,307
He could do it all.
1703
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:29,683
announcer:
Bonds gives the Giants one
1704
01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:32,311
of the best defensive
outfields ever assembled.
1705
01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:35,898
And he can do the impossible.
1706
01:10:39,401 --> 01:10:41,320
- Willie had a locker,
and nobody dressed next
1707
01:10:41,403 --> 01:10:43,989
to Willie but only
special people that he wanted.
1708
01:10:44,073 --> 01:10:45,783
So we put Bobby next
to Willie,
1709
01:10:45,866 --> 01:10:47,910
and that's how they became
best of friends.
1710
01:10:47,993 --> 01:10:49,870
- Willie took him
under his wing.
1711
01:10:51,205 --> 01:10:52,957
- I grew up with Bobby.
1712
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,961
The Bonds' were--were
the heroes in our town.
1713
01:10:57,044 --> 01:10:59,338
And I was always
with him and my dad
1714
01:10:59,421 --> 01:11:01,715
'cause my dad
was always Bobby's coach.
1715
01:11:01,799 --> 01:11:03,050
Bobby was the man.
1716
01:11:03,133 --> 01:11:05,302
He introduced me
to Willie Mays.
1717
01:11:05,386 --> 01:11:07,179
I told him I liked his glove
that he had on.
1718
01:11:07,262 --> 01:11:08,347
It was a kangaroo glove,
1719
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:10,849
and Willie took it off his hand
and gave it to me.
1720
01:11:10,933 --> 01:11:15,312
And so I felt a closeness
to, you know, to Willie
1721
01:11:15,396 --> 01:11:17,606
and definitely always
a closeness,
1722
01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:19,191
you know, to Bobby.
1723
01:11:19,274 --> 01:11:20,818
And, you know,
Willie helped Bobby.
1724
01:11:20,901 --> 01:11:23,445
You know, he loved Bobby.
1725
01:11:23,529 --> 01:11:26,490
- My dad loved Willie more
than anything.
1726
01:11:26,573 --> 01:11:28,492
Everything was Willie this
in our house, Willie that.
1727
01:11:28,575 --> 01:11:29,660
Willie this, Willie this.
1728
01:11:29,743 --> 01:11:31,036
If you wanna hit,
you gotta hit like Willie.
1729
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,287
You know, throw your hands
like this
1730
01:11:32,371 --> 01:11:33,956
and everything like that, and--
1731
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:36,041
'cause my dad idolized
Willie Mays.
1732
01:11:36,125 --> 01:11:39,878
'Cause Willie took all
the Black athletes
1733
01:11:39,962 --> 01:11:43,424
at that time, and he held them
on his shoulder.
1734
01:11:43,507 --> 01:11:45,718
And we as kids
remember this forever.
1735
01:11:45,801 --> 01:11:48,679
I was one of those kids that,
I mean,
1736
01:11:48,762 --> 01:11:50,431
I was obsessed with Willie.
1737
01:11:50,514 --> 01:11:52,224
I would put Willie--
I'm left handed,
1738
01:11:52,307 --> 01:11:55,561
and I would put Willie's glove
on backwards
1739
01:11:55,644 --> 01:11:57,730
just so I could wear his glove.
1740
01:11:57,813 --> 01:11:59,356
But it was my parents,
you know,
1741
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,025
that sat there and told Willie,
you know,
1742
01:12:01,108 --> 01:12:02,026
"You're gonna take this kid."
1743
01:12:02,109 --> 01:12:04,069
'Cause I wouldn't wanna leave
the locker room.
1744
01:12:04,153 --> 01:12:07,281
I didn't wanna--I followed him
like a little puppy dog.
1745
01:12:07,364 --> 01:12:09,867
And I guess my dad
kind of got fed up
1746
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:11,285
because I remember being
on the field
1747
01:12:11,368 --> 01:12:12,703
when I was five
and six years old,
1748
01:12:12,786 --> 01:12:16,123
and I guess my dad kind of got
fed of me just screamin'
1749
01:12:16,206 --> 01:12:18,333
"I wanna be with Willie,"
crying, "Wanna be with Willie."
1750
01:12:18,417 --> 01:12:20,252
And Willie just finally
just said, "Gimme that boy,"
1751
01:12:20,335 --> 01:12:21,253
you know?
Like, you know?
1752
01:12:21,336 --> 01:12:23,422
And he took me out
on the field.
1753
01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:26,717
- Barry Bonds grew up not only
in a baseball household,
1754
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,136
but as part
of baseball royalty.
1755
01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:31,930
His mom and dad,
Pat and Bobby Bonds,
1756
01:12:32,014 --> 01:12:35,350
asked Willie Mays
to be the godfather for Barry.
1757
01:12:35,434 --> 01:12:38,187
- Barry would climb all over
his locker, get in his locker.
1758
01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:39,605
And he would say,
"What are you doing in there?
1759
01:12:39,688 --> 01:12:40,606
What are you doing in there?"
1760
01:12:40,689 --> 01:12:42,608
So they used to grab
his gloves, and, oh...
1761
01:12:42,691 --> 01:12:44,234
[laughing] He'd get mad
if you grabbed his gloves.
1762
01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:48,238
- That little kid,
five years old,
1763
01:12:48,322 --> 01:12:50,407
I remember saying to him,
1764
01:12:50,491 --> 01:12:52,159
"Boy, get out of my locker."
1765
01:12:52,242 --> 01:12:53,243
[laughter]
1766
01:12:53,327 --> 01:12:55,162
- I'll tell you one thing
about Say Hey, boy,
1767
01:12:55,245 --> 01:12:57,372
'cause you did--
you brought up one catch,
1768
01:12:57,456 --> 01:12:59,416
and then there's another catch
with him and my father
1769
01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:01,627
in San Francisco, okay?
1770
01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:04,171
I was mad at my dad
because he hurt my godfather,
1771
01:13:04,254 --> 01:13:05,172
like really mad.
1772
01:13:05,255 --> 01:13:07,591
[cheers and applause]
1773
01:13:07,674 --> 01:13:09,384
- Game of the week.
1774
01:13:09,468 --> 01:13:12,805
Bobby Tolan, Cincinnati Reds,
hits a monster fly ball
1775
01:13:12,888 --> 01:13:15,140
to right center,
so the ball goes up.
1776
01:13:15,224 --> 01:13:16,934
Bobby jumps up,
1777
01:13:17,017 --> 01:13:19,937
but Willie comes out
of nowhere and jumps over him,
1778
01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:22,189
makes the catch,
climbs the cyclone fence,
1779
01:13:22,272 --> 01:13:23,148
comes down with it.
1780
01:13:23,232 --> 01:13:24,233
They collide,
1781
01:13:24,316 --> 01:13:26,902
and Bobby is actually looking
at the ball
1782
01:13:26,985 --> 01:13:30,364
and holds the ball up
for the umpire to see.
1783
01:13:30,447 --> 01:13:32,825
- Willie came out of nowhere,
okay?
1784
01:13:32,908 --> 01:13:34,785
'Cause the ball
was hitting right center,
1785
01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:37,788
and I--I was a kid
and I was at that game.
1786
01:13:37,871 --> 01:13:42,167
My dad's knee hit Willie
in his chest a little bit.
1787
01:13:42,251 --> 01:13:44,128
And I was so mad at my dad
1788
01:13:44,211 --> 01:13:45,754
because Willie
was on that ground forever.
1789
01:13:45,838 --> 01:13:46,839
I didn't want to talk
to my dad for hours.
1790
01:13:46,922 --> 01:13:48,048
Like, "I don't like you.
1791
01:13:48,132 --> 01:13:49,883
You hurt my--
you hurt my Willie."
1792
01:13:49,967 --> 01:13:51,510
And Willie's on the ground
and the ball's sittin'
1793
01:13:51,593 --> 01:13:52,886
in his glove.
1794
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:54,721
Without the glove falling off
1795
01:13:54,805 --> 01:13:56,306
or the ball falling out
of your glove,
1796
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:57,933
and then him hanging
on the ball,
1797
01:13:58,016 --> 01:13:59,143
to have not only retained
the ball
1798
01:13:59,226 --> 01:14:00,853
and be knocked out,
1799
01:14:00,936 --> 01:14:03,313
that, to me, was the best catch
I've ever seen.
1800
01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,694
- Two things happened
at that time.
1801
01:14:08,777 --> 01:14:12,865
I got married,
and I got traded to the Mets.
1802
01:14:14,241 --> 01:14:16,827
- The Giants, meanwhile,
were having a tough time,
1803
01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:18,620
and business
was not going well.
1804
01:14:18,704 --> 01:14:20,998
I mean, the Stoneham family
was literally going bankrupt.
1805
01:14:21,081 --> 01:14:24,042
The Giants used to be the
second highest-drawing team
1806
01:14:24,126 --> 01:14:25,878
in the National League
behind the Dodgers,
1807
01:14:25,961 --> 01:14:27,880
and most of those years,
second best-drawing team
1808
01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:29,882
in all
of Major League Baseball.
1809
01:14:29,965 --> 01:14:31,341
And they would a million six.
1810
01:14:31,425 --> 01:14:32,885
One year they got
a million seven,
1811
01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:33,927
a million five.
1812
01:14:34,011 --> 01:14:37,222
And '68, they A's came out
from Kansas City.
1813
01:14:37,306 --> 01:14:39,933
And both teams drew 800,000.
1814
01:14:40,017 --> 01:14:41,894
And really, where did they
expect all these extra fans
1815
01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:43,103
were gonna come from?
1816
01:14:43,187 --> 01:14:45,022
Because the Giants
had been the only team?
1817
01:14:45,105 --> 01:14:46,481
We used to go
from the East Bay
1818
01:14:46,565 --> 01:14:48,192
over to Candlestick.
1819
01:14:48,275 --> 01:14:49,651
Well, now we didn't have
to do that anymore.
1820
01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:50,986
We could just go
to the Coliseum.
1821
01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:53,197
We didn't have to go across
the bridge anymore.
1822
01:14:54,781 --> 01:14:57,409
It was 1972,
and they started trading some
1823
01:14:57,492 --> 01:14:59,494
of their higher-priced
players.
1824
01:14:59,578 --> 01:15:02,539
Willie Mays would regularly
have the highest salary
1825
01:15:02,623 --> 01:15:03,582
in the game.
1826
01:15:03,665 --> 01:15:05,959
That's when he got traded.
1827
01:15:06,043 --> 01:15:08,253
I think it killed
Horace Stoneham to do it.
1828
01:15:08,337 --> 01:15:10,547
But they just couldn't
afford it.
1829
01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:12,090
- Mr. Stoneham told me,
he says,
1830
01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:14,593
"Willie, I don't have
enough money to pay you."
1831
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:15,928
I said,
"What do you mean, sir?"
1832
01:15:16,011 --> 01:15:18,472
He says, "I gotta get you back
to New York,
1833
01:15:18,555 --> 01:15:20,098
"where you can still make,
you know,
1834
01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:21,183
quite a bit of money."
1835
01:15:21,266 --> 01:15:24,436
So I says,
"I don't think I wanna go.
1836
01:15:24,519 --> 01:15:26,438
I think I better go home."
1837
01:15:26,521 --> 01:15:27,731
And he said, "No, no, no.
1838
01:15:27,814 --> 01:15:31,401
Mrs. Joan Payson's the owner
of the Mets."
1839
01:15:31,485 --> 01:15:33,153
She already called."
1840
01:15:33,237 --> 01:15:35,697
And she says, "We got you."
1841
01:15:35,781 --> 01:15:37,241
And I said, "I gotta go home."
1842
01:15:37,324 --> 01:15:38,408
"No, no, no.
1843
01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:39,576
"Your wife is already here.
1844
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:41,370
"She's been here for two days.
1845
01:15:41,453 --> 01:15:43,956
She said,
"Write your own contract."
1846
01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:47,084
And I said,
"Whoa, I got her now."
1847
01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:49,545
So I said,
"I, Willie Mays, would like
1848
01:15:49,628 --> 01:15:51,421
"to do what I wanna do,
1849
01:15:51,505 --> 01:15:54,800
when I wanna do it
at any time."
1850
01:15:54,883 --> 01:15:56,468
And she said,
"Is that what you want?"
1851
01:15:56,551 --> 01:15:58,053
"Yes, ma'am."
1852
01:15:58,136 --> 01:16:00,472
"You got it."
And I said, "Oh, my God.
1853
01:16:00,555 --> 01:16:03,475
She gave me everything
that I asked for."
1854
01:16:03,558 --> 01:16:04,977
I can't go nowhere.
1855
01:16:16,697 --> 01:16:18,573
- When I got back to New York,
1856
01:16:18,657 --> 01:16:22,286
it was just like I never left.
1857
01:16:22,369 --> 01:16:25,289
[light funk music]
1858
01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:26,373
- What a moment.
1859
01:16:26,456 --> 01:16:28,625
This is a sensation
in New York.
1860
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:30,836
- The feeling
that I had when I came back
1861
01:16:30,919 --> 01:16:34,381
was--
it just was no expressing it.
1862
01:16:34,464 --> 01:16:38,343
It was just a feeling
that a town wanted a fella
1863
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,388
to come back,
and I think they showed that
1864
01:16:41,471 --> 01:16:43,140
by, you know,
the way they treat me
1865
01:16:43,223 --> 01:16:45,017
when I first came back,
and it's just terrific
1866
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:46,518
just to be back.
1867
01:16:46,601 --> 01:16:49,521
- The Giants went to New York
just a few days later,
1868
01:16:49,604 --> 01:16:51,148
and they play the Mets.
1869
01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:54,359
And Willie hits a home run
against the Giants,
1870
01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:56,486
and he beats the Giants.
1871
01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:58,363
announcer: And it's well back
in left field.
1872
01:16:58,447 --> 01:16:59,990
It could be.
It's going, going.
1873
01:17:00,073 --> 01:17:01,825
And it is a home run!
1874
01:17:01,908 --> 01:17:05,120
Number 647 in his career.
1875
01:17:05,203 --> 01:17:08,999
[cheers and applause]
1876
01:17:09,082 --> 01:17:12,169
- The way I felt that
the players on the Giants felt
1877
01:17:12,252 --> 01:17:13,378
that they had to get beat,
1878
01:17:13,462 --> 01:17:14,588
they'd rather for me
to beat 'em.
1879
01:17:14,671 --> 01:17:16,298
And this is the way I feel all,
you know,
1880
01:17:16,381 --> 01:17:17,883
going around the bases,
you know.
1881
01:17:17,966 --> 01:17:20,135
♪ ♪
1882
01:17:20,218 --> 01:17:21,553
- It's beautiful.
- Unreal.
1883
01:17:21,636 --> 01:17:23,055
- I think it's wonderful.
1884
01:17:23,138 --> 01:17:25,057
- It's great.
- It's fantastic.
1885
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:26,641
- I was always
a Willie Mays fan.
1886
01:17:26,725 --> 01:17:30,187
- [speaking Spanish]
1887
01:17:30,270 --> 01:17:31,938
- It's the best thing
that ever happened to me.
1888
01:17:33,607 --> 01:17:36,068
- So May of '72,
1889
01:17:36,151 --> 01:17:39,029
Joan Payson has the Mets,
brings him home.
1890
01:17:39,112 --> 01:17:41,990
He was a key player
on that team in '72.
1891
01:17:42,074 --> 01:17:43,909
And he was thinking,
"Well, that's it for me.
1892
01:17:43,992 --> 01:17:46,328
I'm okay
if this is my last year."
1893
01:17:46,411 --> 01:17:48,038
But Joan Payson
wouldn't allow it.
1894
01:17:48,121 --> 01:17:50,457
She says, "One more year,
Willie, one more year."
1895
01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:52,000
So Willie agreed
to play one more year.
1896
01:17:52,084 --> 01:17:54,628
[cheers and applause]
1897
01:17:54,711 --> 01:17:59,257
Those Mets came outta nowhere
to win their division in '73.
1898
01:17:59,341 --> 01:18:00,300
announcer: It's over!
1899
01:18:00,384 --> 01:18:02,094
The New York Mets
have won the pennant!
1900
01:18:02,177 --> 01:18:04,179
The New York Mets
have won the pennant!
1901
01:18:04,262 --> 01:18:05,847
The New York Mets
have won the pennant,
1902
01:18:05,931 --> 01:18:08,767
and this is a wild scene!
1903
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:10,602
- And find themselves
in the World Series
1904
01:18:10,685 --> 01:18:12,104
against the Oakland A's.
1905
01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:15,107
Game one of the '73
World Series is in Oakland.
1906
01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:16,900
announcer: Batting third
and playing center field,
1907
01:18:16,983 --> 01:18:19,861
number 24, Willie Mays.
1908
01:18:19,945 --> 01:18:22,906
[cheers and applause]
1909
01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:25,242
Willie Mays never played
at the Oakland Coliseum.
1910
01:18:25,325 --> 01:18:27,077
And he gets a standing ovation
1911
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,538
that might have been
the longest of his career.
1912
01:18:29,621 --> 01:18:32,582
[cheers and applause]
1913
01:18:38,505 --> 01:18:41,883
But it's game two
that everybody looks at.
1914
01:18:41,967 --> 01:18:44,719
Game two
was at the Oakland Coliseum.
1915
01:18:44,803 --> 01:18:47,806
It started
in the late afternoon.
1916
01:18:47,889 --> 01:18:49,975
- I played center field
the same day.
1917
01:18:50,058 --> 01:18:52,978
I almost missed a ball
in the sun off Jerry Grote.
1918
01:18:53,061 --> 01:18:54,896
The sun was horrible there
that day.
1919
01:18:54,980 --> 01:18:57,983
And it's always bad in Oakland
in October.
1920
01:18:58,066 --> 01:19:00,402
I don't know how they built
the field that way,
1921
01:19:00,485 --> 01:19:03,363
but someone didn't have
the foresight.
1922
01:19:03,447 --> 01:19:04,823
- The thing goes 13 innings.
1923
01:19:04,906 --> 01:19:07,742
It's the longest World Series
on record through that season.
1924
01:19:07,826 --> 01:19:11,121
And Deron Johnson gets up
for the A's
1925
01:19:11,204 --> 01:19:13,290
and hits a little blooper
into center field.
1926
01:19:13,373 --> 01:19:16,376
And the ball gets by him
and goes to the wall.
1927
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:17,878
announcer:
And it gets by him.
1928
01:19:17,961 --> 01:19:20,005
He lost his footing again.
1929
01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:22,132
Deron Johnson's in to second.
1930
01:19:22,215 --> 01:19:25,302
Willie Mays stumbling again
as he did on the bases.
1931
01:19:25,385 --> 01:19:27,345
- So later in the game,
Reggie hits a triple
1932
01:19:27,429 --> 01:19:30,015
that Willie lost
in the sun as well.
1933
01:19:30,098 --> 01:19:33,018
[melancholic music]
1934
01:19:33,101 --> 01:19:34,394
♪ ♪
1935
01:19:34,478 --> 01:19:38,690
- This "Willie Mays stumbled
around in center field
1936
01:19:38,773 --> 01:19:42,194
because he was old
and couldn't play," no.
1937
01:19:42,277 --> 01:19:44,946
If he couldn't get
to the ball, I'm okay.
1938
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:47,365
But he didn't get to the ball
and drop it.
1939
01:19:47,449 --> 01:19:49,784
He never did that.
1940
01:19:49,868 --> 01:19:51,745
Never.
1941
01:19:51,828 --> 01:19:55,832
That game is not an image
of Willie Mays.
1942
01:19:55,916 --> 01:19:58,710
Willie--you can say
Willie Mays was old
1943
01:19:58,793 --> 01:20:00,378
when he played his last game,
1944
01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:01,880
he got a base hit,
1945
01:20:01,963 --> 01:20:03,924
and he had trouble
with the sun in center field
1946
01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:06,885
in the World Series.
I got that.
1947
01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:10,096
But Willie Mays was flawless
as a baseball player.
1948
01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:13,225
So if somebody wants
to talk about his sun game,
1949
01:20:13,308 --> 01:20:14,726
you forget about the fact
1950
01:20:14,809 --> 01:20:18,146
that he got the go-ahead
base hit to put them ahead
1951
01:20:18,230 --> 01:20:20,190
with a ground ball single
up the middle.
1952
01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:24,027
- You'll see a picture
that everybody points to.
1953
01:20:24,110 --> 01:20:27,697
- Bud Harrelson was called out
at the plate by the umpire.
1954
01:20:27,781 --> 01:20:28,990
- Willie, the on-deck hitter,
1955
01:20:29,074 --> 01:20:31,952
was out there screamin'
and yellin' at the umpire
1956
01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:33,495
saying, "You got this wrong,
man."
1957
01:20:34,746 --> 01:20:37,040
- Because that's such
a powerful photo,
1958
01:20:37,123 --> 01:20:39,543
you misread it
if you don't have the context
1959
01:20:39,626 --> 01:20:43,463
to understand that he wasn't
as good at 40 as he was at 20,
1960
01:20:43,547 --> 01:20:45,006
but it's like, no.
1961
01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:46,466
Not only is this dude good,
1962
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:49,469
this dude might be the best
there ever was.
1963
01:20:49,553 --> 01:20:51,429
announcer: There was one
very poignant pause
1964
01:20:51,513 --> 01:20:54,099
down the home stretch
when Willie Mays announced
1965
01:20:54,182 --> 01:20:57,435
that 1973 would be
his final season
1966
01:20:57,519 --> 01:20:59,104
as an active player.
1967
01:20:59,187 --> 01:21:01,523
♪ ♪
1968
01:21:01,606 --> 01:21:03,525
- I remember watching
game seven,
1969
01:21:03,608 --> 01:21:06,236
and the Mets were down
three runs
1970
01:21:06,319 --> 01:21:07,737
as they come up in the ninth.
1971
01:21:07,821 --> 01:21:10,240
And they get two men on base.
1972
01:21:10,323 --> 01:21:13,410
And I realize he's 42 years old
and at the end of his career
1973
01:21:13,493 --> 01:21:14,494
and all the rest,
1974
01:21:14,578 --> 01:21:18,331
but I'm thinking,
"Yogi, send Willie up.
1975
01:21:18,415 --> 01:21:20,292
"This is Willie Mays'
last at-bat.
1976
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:22,294
"He's already announced
his retirement.
1977
01:21:22,377 --> 01:21:24,629
"Two out,
tying run at the plate.
1978
01:21:24,713 --> 01:21:27,632
Send Willie Mays up."
He didn't.
1979
01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,301
Knowles got Garland out.
1980
01:21:29,384 --> 01:21:30,802
Lost the game.
1981
01:21:30,885 --> 01:21:34,097
I asked Willie about that
decades later.
1982
01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:36,474
He goes,
"I was reaching for a bat.
1983
01:21:36,558 --> 01:21:38,059
"It was a perfect moment.
1984
01:21:38,143 --> 01:21:41,730
Even if I struck out,
I wanted a chance."
1985
01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:46,276
- We should've won
the World Series at that time
1986
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:50,280
'cause we--we did a good job,
I felt.
1987
01:21:50,363 --> 01:21:53,116
I think I played till 42.
1988
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:54,784
A long time.
1989
01:21:54,868 --> 01:21:58,163
♪ ♪
1990
01:21:58,246 --> 01:22:00,498
announcer: Ladies
and gentlemen, Willie Mays.
1991
01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:03,627
[cheers and applause]
1992
01:22:09,841 --> 01:22:14,554
- I hope that
with my farewell tonight
1993
01:22:14,638 --> 01:22:18,016
you would understand what
I'm going through right now.
1994
01:22:18,099 --> 01:22:20,393
Something that I'd never feel
1995
01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:23,063
that I would ever
quit baseball,
1996
01:22:23,146 --> 01:22:24,981
but as you know,
it always come a time
1997
01:22:25,065 --> 01:22:27,317
for someone to get out.
1998
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,986
And I look
at the kids over here,
1999
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:31,696
the way they are playing
2000
01:22:31,780 --> 01:22:34,574
and the way they are fighting
for themselves
2001
01:22:34,658 --> 01:22:36,660
tells me one thing.
2002
01:22:36,743 --> 01:22:39,829
Willie, say goodbye to America.
2003
01:22:39,913 --> 01:22:42,457
Thank you very much.
2004
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,502
[thunderous cheers
and applause]
2005
01:22:45,585 --> 01:22:52,550
♪ ♪
2006
01:22:59,974 --> 01:23:01,685
Anybody
who have seen me play know
2007
01:23:01,768 --> 01:23:03,895
that I love what I'm doing.
2008
01:23:03,978 --> 01:23:06,231
This doesn't mean
that I'm getting out
2009
01:23:06,314 --> 01:23:08,024
of baseball because I'm hurt.
2010
01:23:08,108 --> 01:23:09,359
But I'm getting out
of baseball
2011
01:23:09,442 --> 01:23:11,820
because I don't feel
that seeing the way
2012
01:23:11,903 --> 01:23:13,697
that I was playing the last,
oh, well,
2013
01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:14,864
I'd say the last couple years,
2014
01:23:14,948 --> 01:23:17,367
I didn't feel
that the people of America
2015
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:19,536
should look at a guy
like myself
2016
01:23:19,619 --> 01:23:21,204
that loved the game
of baseball
2017
01:23:21,287 --> 01:23:24,082
and being on the field
and not being able to produce.
2018
01:23:24,165 --> 01:23:27,252
It's difficult right now
to even, uh,
2019
01:23:27,335 --> 01:23:30,088
try to explain to you
how much I love baseball
2020
01:23:30,171 --> 01:23:32,799
and how much baseball mean
to me.
2021
01:23:32,882 --> 01:23:36,886
I think we had what you call
a love affair.
2022
01:23:36,970 --> 01:23:39,931
I think the two together
2023
01:23:40,014 --> 01:23:43,351
for 22 years
have been terrific.
2024
01:23:45,019 --> 01:23:47,230
- Fast-forward 20 years or so,
2025
01:23:47,313 --> 01:23:48,732
Willie was not working
for the Giants.
2026
01:23:48,815 --> 01:23:49,858
Willie was out of baseball.
2027
01:23:49,941 --> 01:23:52,402
This is in late '92
2028
01:23:52,485 --> 01:23:54,863
when our group came together
to buy the team.
2029
01:23:54,946 --> 01:23:58,575
And Peter Magowan and I went
to Willie
2030
01:23:58,658 --> 01:24:02,620
the very first spring training
that we had in early '93.
2031
01:24:02,704 --> 01:24:08,126
And we said, "Willie, you have
to be part of this franchise.
2032
01:24:08,209 --> 01:24:11,713
And we want you
to have a lifetime contract."
2033
01:24:13,715 --> 01:24:19,137
So it's 1992,
and the best free agent
2034
01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:22,140
on the market is available
for our first year
2035
01:24:22,223 --> 01:24:24,976
owning the franchise, 1993.
2036
01:24:25,059 --> 01:24:27,520
And how did we get
to Barry Bonds?
2037
01:24:27,604 --> 01:24:29,481
Well, I don't know him.
2038
01:24:29,564 --> 01:24:32,108
But there's one person
that could make the pitch:
2039
01:24:32,192 --> 01:24:33,568
Willie.
2040
01:24:33,651 --> 01:24:37,655
There was a call that was made
by Willie to Barry.
2041
01:24:37,739 --> 01:24:42,285
And when the decision came
for Barry
2042
01:24:42,368 --> 01:24:46,623
to determine where
he was gonna play in 1993
2043
01:24:46,706 --> 01:24:51,461
and where he would play
for the next 15 years,
2044
01:24:51,544 --> 01:24:53,963
he was very emotional
and he called up.
2045
01:24:54,047 --> 01:24:55,507
And I remember being
on the other end of the call
2046
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:57,842
and saying,
"Look, how can I not come
2047
01:24:57,926 --> 01:25:03,473
to the home of my father
and my godfather, Willie?"
2048
01:25:03,556 --> 01:25:05,892
- I wanted to go home.
2049
01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:08,686
This is what I've always wanted
my whole entire life.
2050
01:25:08,770 --> 01:25:11,272
And that was really,
really important to me.
2051
01:25:11,356 --> 01:25:12,482
The most important thing
in the world.
2052
01:25:12,565 --> 01:25:14,234
- The biggest deal
in baseball history
2053
01:25:14,317 --> 01:25:15,318
finally went through today
2054
01:25:15,401 --> 01:25:16,820
as the San Francisco Giants
signed
2055
01:25:16,903 --> 01:25:18,363
free agent outfielder
Barry Bonds
2056
01:25:18,446 --> 01:25:22,367
to a six-year
$43.75 million deal.
2057
01:25:22,450 --> 01:25:24,369
- And I wanna thank
the San Francisco Giants
2058
01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:27,956
organization for talking
to Willie for me
2059
01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:30,542
and giving me this opportunity
2060
01:25:30,625 --> 01:25:33,253
and especially Willie
for allowing this to happen.
2061
01:25:33,336 --> 01:25:35,505
And Willie called me up.
2062
01:25:35,588 --> 01:25:37,173
And he sat there and he said,
2063
01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:39,717
"I would like for you
to wear my number."
2064
01:25:39,801 --> 01:25:41,386
So I was so touched.
2065
01:25:41,469 --> 01:25:43,221
I was crying.
I was like, "This is great.
2066
01:25:43,304 --> 01:25:44,222
This is great."
2067
01:25:44,305 --> 01:25:45,223
Peter was fine with it.
2068
01:25:45,306 --> 01:25:46,391
The Giants were fine with it.
2069
01:25:46,474 --> 01:25:48,226
But Major League Baseball
shut it down.
2070
01:25:48,309 --> 01:25:49,519
They said
that you can't do that
2071
01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:52,522
because if we start taking
uniforms out of retirement,
2072
01:25:52,605 --> 01:25:54,190
then why
are we retiring uniforms?
2073
01:25:54,274 --> 01:25:55,692
Which made perfect sense to me.
2074
01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:57,527
I was fine,
and then Willie said,
2075
01:25:57,610 --> 01:26:00,029
"Why don't you honor your daddy
2076
01:26:00,113 --> 01:26:02,699
and wear number 25?"
2077
01:26:02,782 --> 01:26:05,535
- So I have the honor
of presenting
2078
01:26:05,618 --> 01:26:08,621
my old number, the 25,
2079
01:26:08,705 --> 01:26:11,875
to my son,
and a new San Francisco Giant,
2080
01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:13,418
Barry Bonds.
2081
01:26:13,501 --> 01:26:16,462
[cheers and applause]
2082
01:26:16,546 --> 01:26:18,756
- And tears flowed.
2083
01:26:19,173 --> 01:26:20,258
- It's like a boyhood dream
2084
01:26:20,341 --> 01:26:23,386
that comes true for me.
2085
01:26:23,469 --> 01:26:24,762
Um...
2086
01:26:24,846 --> 01:26:27,056
[soft sentimental music]
2087
01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:29,225
And I'll never forget this
'cause we were on stage
2088
01:26:29,309 --> 01:26:31,185
and Peter Magowan
and all the owners stood
2089
01:26:31,269 --> 01:26:33,771
and Willie's there,
and he goes, "You ready."
2090
01:26:33,855 --> 01:26:36,733
That's when I knew I was
a complete baseball player
2091
01:26:36,816 --> 01:26:39,277
is when I got that stamp
from my godfather.
2092
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,531
He had an IQ so high
he can see it.
2093
01:26:43,615 --> 01:26:46,075
My godfather
played center field.
2094
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:47,911
My father played right field.
2095
01:26:47,994 --> 01:26:50,330
And I wanted
to be third generation
2096
01:26:50,413 --> 01:26:52,040
and play left field.
2097
01:26:53,541 --> 01:26:57,128
- Willie's the only one
and his mama, Pat,
2098
01:26:57,211 --> 01:27:00,256
that could put the brakes
and control Barry.
2099
01:27:00,340 --> 01:27:02,300
You know, he'd listen
to Bobby most of the time,
2100
01:27:02,383 --> 01:27:03,801
but he listened
to Willie all the time.
2101
01:27:03,885 --> 01:27:05,178
[laughs]
2102
01:27:05,261 --> 01:27:07,805
- Barry and Bobby struggle,
you know,
2103
01:27:07,889 --> 01:27:09,933
like many fathers and sons do.
2104
01:27:10,016 --> 01:27:13,686
Dad, of course, jumped in,
you know, help 'em both out.
2105
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:14,979
- They were always there
for me.
2106
01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:15,939
My dad was there with me.
2107
01:27:16,022 --> 01:27:17,106
I was doing
off-season training.
2108
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,067
My dad was in the batting cage
with me every single day
2109
01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:20,526
when I was training,
and Willie was there
2110
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:22,070
all the time
when I was training.
2111
01:27:22,153 --> 01:27:23,988
Willie was there with me
on the baseball field.
2112
01:27:24,072 --> 01:27:26,658
And I wanted Willie
to be proud of me so bad
2113
01:27:26,741 --> 01:27:30,787
that I ate, drank,
lived baseball 24 hours a day.
2114
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:32,080
[bat cracks]
2115
01:27:32,163 --> 01:27:33,748
announcer: Bonds with a drive.
2116
01:27:33,831 --> 01:27:37,168
Looks like number 70
for Barry Bonds.
2117
01:27:37,251 --> 01:27:38,586
And it is!
2118
01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:41,631
- And if you look back at all
of Barry Bonds' record,
2119
01:27:41,714 --> 01:27:44,259
what does he say
is most meaningful?
2120
01:27:44,342 --> 01:27:45,969
announcer: A knuckleball
is hit in the air
2121
01:27:46,052 --> 01:27:48,179
to deep right field.
2122
01:27:48,262 --> 01:27:49,681
- Passing Babe, passing Hank?
2123
01:27:49,764 --> 01:27:53,351
No. Matching Willie Mays, 660.
2124
01:27:53,434 --> 01:27:55,645
announcer: He hits it hard!
2125
01:27:55,728 --> 01:27:58,982
[cheers and applause]
2126
01:27:59,065 --> 01:28:00,775
- When I was going
for the home run record,
2127
01:28:00,858 --> 01:28:02,652
I didn't wanna pass
Willie Mays.
2128
01:28:02,735 --> 01:28:03,736
That was my godfather.
2129
01:28:03,820 --> 01:28:05,321
That was the only thing
I never wanted to do
2130
01:28:05,405 --> 01:28:07,991
was to pass Willie Mays,
and that was very hard for me.
2131
01:28:08,074 --> 01:28:10,868
And so Willie sat me aside.
2132
01:28:10,952 --> 01:28:12,537
And I was like,
"Willie, I can't do it.
2133
01:28:12,620 --> 01:28:13,830
"It's because
it's too emotional.
2134
01:28:13,913 --> 01:28:15,331
"You're gonna come out
on the field.
2135
01:28:15,415 --> 01:28:16,666
I'ma start cryin."
2136
01:28:16,749 --> 01:28:19,877
And he said,
"You better pass me,
2137
01:28:19,961 --> 01:28:22,130
and then
you better keep going."
2138
01:28:22,213 --> 01:28:23,673
I did it because of Willie.
2139
01:28:24,007 --> 01:28:25,550
announcer: And Bonds hits one
high and deep
2140
01:28:25,633 --> 01:28:27,468
towards right field and...
2141
01:28:27,552 --> 01:28:30,555
into McCovey Cove!
2142
01:28:30,638 --> 01:28:33,641
- And he said, "You pass me,
and you keep passing next.
2143
01:28:33,725 --> 01:28:36,436
And you keep going until
they rip that uniform off you."
2144
01:28:38,312 --> 01:28:40,148
[cheers and applause]
2145
01:28:40,231 --> 01:28:42,150
announcer:
Bonds passes Babe Ruth.
2146
01:28:42,233 --> 01:28:43,192
[fireworks exploding]
2147
01:28:43,276 --> 01:28:47,363
He is second
on the all-time home run list.
2148
01:28:47,447 --> 01:28:49,073
- I gotta thank all of you.
2149
01:28:50,742 --> 01:28:54,245
My family, my dad.
2150
01:28:54,328 --> 01:28:55,872
I was very, very lucky
2151
01:28:55,955 --> 01:28:58,458
to have two of the greatest
teachers in the world to me.
2152
01:28:58,541 --> 01:28:59,751
Thank you!
2153
01:28:59,834 --> 01:29:01,919
My father and Willie.
2154
01:29:02,003 --> 01:29:04,964
- Midway into Barry's career
as a Giant,
2155
01:29:05,048 --> 01:29:06,841
his father Bobby died.
2156
01:29:06,924 --> 01:29:10,261
And on his deathbed,
Willie Mays visits him,
2157
01:29:10,344 --> 01:29:12,764
and Bobby says,
"Take care of Barry for me"
2158
01:29:12,847 --> 01:29:16,309
because you're the only guy
he listens to other than me."
2159
01:29:16,392 --> 01:29:17,810
And Willie said, "Okay."
2160
01:29:17,894 --> 01:29:20,438
And that was important
for all the turmoil
2161
01:29:20,521 --> 01:29:22,899
and all the stuff
that Barry went through,
2162
01:29:22,982 --> 01:29:25,234
it was Willie Mays
who he could always call,
2163
01:29:25,318 --> 01:29:29,072
Willie Mays
who was always there for him.
2164
01:29:29,155 --> 01:29:32,825
[cheers and applause]
2165
01:29:32,909 --> 01:29:36,412
- There was a poignant moment
when they saluted Barry Bonds
2166
01:29:36,496 --> 01:29:40,291
and retired his number
formally at Oracle Park.
2167
01:29:40,375 --> 01:29:42,668
Willie was there,
and he got up
2168
01:29:42,752 --> 01:29:44,629
and said that he needed
to speak.
2169
01:29:44,712 --> 01:29:47,465
- When Mr. Mays wants to speak,
2170
01:29:47,548 --> 01:29:48,925
he gets to speak.
2171
01:29:49,008 --> 01:29:51,969
[cheers and applause]
2172
01:29:53,096 --> 01:29:57,350
So we're gonna get Mr. Mays
a microphone.
2173
01:29:57,433 --> 01:30:00,478
- I have to go to the podium
because when I say something,
2174
01:30:00,561 --> 01:30:02,313
I want everybody to hear.
2175
01:30:02,396 --> 01:30:04,440
- And this was not part
of the script.
2176
01:30:04,524 --> 01:30:06,943
- And Willie, take it away.
2177
01:30:07,026 --> 01:30:09,737
[cheers and applause]
2178
01:30:09,821 --> 01:30:13,491
- I don't like
to do things like this.
2179
01:30:13,574 --> 01:30:16,953
But the boy that is here today,
2180
01:30:17,036 --> 01:30:19,455
he was like my little son.
2181
01:30:19,539 --> 01:30:24,669
I taught him to be a proud man.
2182
01:30:24,752 --> 01:30:30,216
Give somebody honor
that deserve
2183
01:30:30,299 --> 01:30:31,717
to be in the Hall of Fame.
2184
01:30:31,801 --> 01:30:33,177
- Yes, sir!
- Yeah.
2185
01:30:33,261 --> 01:30:35,346
[cheers and applause]
Yeah.
2186
01:30:35,429 --> 01:30:38,516
- So Willie starts talking
about the Hall of Fame
2187
01:30:38,599 --> 01:30:41,018
and what a great thrill
it was for him
2188
01:30:41,102 --> 01:30:42,186
when he got that call
2189
01:30:42,270 --> 01:30:44,856
that he was going
into the Hall of Fame.
2190
01:30:44,939 --> 01:30:49,193
- You know, Dad sees Barry
as a kid that he helped groom,
2191
01:30:49,277 --> 01:30:53,156
and I think Barry sees Dad
as his family.
2192
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:58,536
His dad's gone, so you know,
closest thing he's got.
2193
01:30:58,619 --> 01:31:00,496
- Let him have the honor
2194
01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,832
'cause I may not be here
forever.
2195
01:31:02,915 --> 01:31:04,167
I might be gone.
2196
01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:06,544
I want him to have kids
2197
01:31:06,627 --> 01:31:10,548
and his kids say,
"That's my daddy over there."
2198
01:31:10,631 --> 01:31:13,176
And I want him
to have that honor
2199
01:31:13,259 --> 01:31:15,094
be something happen to him.
2200
01:31:15,178 --> 01:31:18,139
[cheers and applause]
2201
01:31:19,390 --> 01:31:20,933
- What do you remember about
that speech?
2202
01:31:22,518 --> 01:31:24,228
- Trying not to cry.
2203
01:31:24,312 --> 01:31:26,689
'Cause it was like your father.
2204
01:31:26,772 --> 01:31:28,858
[voice breaking]
And that's tough
2205
01:31:28,941 --> 01:31:32,028
'cause he's the world to me.
2206
01:31:32,111 --> 01:31:35,740
And for him to stand up
2207
01:31:35,823 --> 01:31:39,035
for his godson like his son,
2208
01:31:39,118 --> 01:31:41,412
that's what I was holding back.
2209
01:31:41,495 --> 01:31:43,873
And that's the only answer
I got for you.
2210
01:31:43,956 --> 01:31:46,542
'Cause that's the same feeling
I had, the same--
2211
01:31:46,626 --> 01:31:48,169
and anyone
who ever brings it up,
2212
01:31:48,252 --> 01:31:50,087
it's the same feeling.
2213
01:31:50,171 --> 01:31:52,256
My dad is dead.
2214
01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:55,927
And Willie was--is all I have,
right?
2215
01:31:56,010 --> 01:31:58,638
So that...
2216
01:31:58,721 --> 01:32:01,098
don't do it.
2217
01:32:01,182 --> 01:32:02,600
That's how I felt.
2218
01:32:02,683 --> 01:32:06,103
- On behalf of all the people
in San Francisco
2219
01:32:06,187 --> 01:32:08,064
and all over the country,
2220
01:32:08,147 --> 01:32:09,899
vote this guy in.
2221
01:32:09,982 --> 01:32:12,693
He is very, very important
to me!
2222
01:32:12,777 --> 01:32:14,403
Thank you very much.
2223
01:32:14,487 --> 01:32:17,198
Okay.
2224
01:32:17,281 --> 01:32:20,409
- And I think that was
the generosity of spirit.
2225
01:32:20,493 --> 01:32:22,870
That was Willie Mays.
2226
01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:24,747
And who could offer counsel
to Barry Bonds
2227
01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:25,957
but Willie Mays?
2228
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,001
[cheers and applause]
2229
01:32:29,085 --> 01:32:30,670
[soft emotional music]
2230
01:32:30,753 --> 01:32:33,673
- Whatever the Lord did
for Willie Mays,
2231
01:32:33,756 --> 01:32:39,095
he equipped Willie Mays
to play the art of baseball.
2232
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,767
There's some people that could
hit as good as he did.
2233
01:32:45,726 --> 01:32:49,480
There's some people that could
throw as well as he could.
2234
01:32:49,563 --> 01:32:54,110
On every pitch,
Willie Mays was as decisive
2235
01:32:54,193 --> 01:32:56,904
intellectually on baseball,
2236
01:32:56,988 --> 01:32:59,073
as any one of the coaches,
2237
01:32:59,156 --> 01:33:00,992
as any one of the managers.
2238
01:33:01,075 --> 01:33:05,079
None of them could do
what Willie Mays could do.
2239
01:33:05,162 --> 01:33:09,500
all: ♪ Happy Birthday,
dear Willie ♪
2240
01:33:09,583 --> 01:33:13,337
♪ ♪
2241
01:33:13,421 --> 01:33:17,008
- You had to experience it
to understand what he meant.
2242
01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:19,218
all: ♪ To you ♪
- Yeah!
2243
01:33:19,302 --> 01:33:21,762
- He was baseball to a lot
of people
2244
01:33:21,846 --> 01:33:25,308
in an era that was brimming
with great, great players.
2245
01:33:26,767 --> 01:33:29,186
- I didn't think of him
as a mere ballplayer
2246
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:31,981
or even as a human being,
as I look back on it,
2247
01:33:32,064 --> 01:33:34,650
but rather a superhero.
2248
01:33:34,734 --> 01:33:36,193
Willie Mays walks down
the street
2249
01:33:36,277 --> 01:33:38,154
and fathers say to their sons,
2250
01:33:38,237 --> 01:33:39,780
"There goes Willie Mays,
2251
01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:42,700
the greatest player
to ever play this game."
2252
01:33:42,783 --> 01:33:45,703
[cheers and applause]
2253
01:33:45,786 --> 01:33:48,789
♪ ♪
2254
01:33:48,873 --> 01:33:50,041
- We don't have time
2255
01:33:50,124 --> 01:33:53,669
to list all
of Willie Mays' statistics
2256
01:33:53,753 --> 01:33:56,213
and his quiet example
while excelling
2257
01:33:56,297 --> 01:33:57,715
on one
of America's biggest stages
2258
01:33:57,798 --> 01:34:01,677
helped carry forward the banner
of civil rights.
2259
01:34:01,761 --> 01:34:06,223
A few years ago, Willie rode
with me on Air Force One.
2260
01:34:06,307 --> 01:34:08,351
I told him then
what I'll tell all of you now.
2261
01:34:08,434 --> 01:34:10,102
It's because of giants
like Willie
2262
01:34:10,186 --> 01:34:13,022
that someone like me could
even think about
2263
01:34:13,105 --> 01:34:15,191
running for president.
2264
01:34:15,274 --> 01:34:16,567
[camera shutter clicks]
2265
01:34:16,650 --> 01:34:19,653
[cheers and applause]
2266
01:34:20,946 --> 01:34:22,656
- Are you Willie Mays,
the greatest baseball player
2267
01:34:22,740 --> 01:34:25,034
of all time?
2268
01:34:25,117 --> 01:34:26,243
- Uh-uh.
2269
01:34:26,327 --> 01:34:27,536
I don't do that.
2270
01:34:27,620 --> 01:34:28,537
- You don't do that?
2271
01:34:28,621 --> 01:34:30,081
- No.
2272
01:34:30,164 --> 01:34:31,374
- Who is it? Who would be?
2273
01:34:31,457 --> 01:34:34,043
- I don't know.
That's not my job.
2274
01:34:34,126 --> 01:34:35,211
- Right.
2275
01:34:35,294 --> 01:34:38,839
- You--if you's talking about
the greatest ballplayer,
2276
01:34:38,923 --> 01:34:41,258
I didn't do all that
to play baseball.
2277
01:34:41,342 --> 01:34:42,635
- Mm-hmm.
- No.
2278
01:34:42,718 --> 01:34:44,512
My dad could play baseball.
2279
01:34:44,595 --> 01:34:47,431
Oh, I got a lot
of guys could play baseball.
2280
01:34:47,515 --> 01:34:51,435
I didn't do that to--to--
2281
01:34:51,519 --> 01:34:54,146
to say I'm the best.
2282
01:34:54,230 --> 01:34:58,234
When I look at myself,
I think about sports first.
2283
01:34:58,317 --> 01:35:00,194
[cheers and applause]
2284
01:35:00,277 --> 01:35:02,571
♪ ♪
2285
01:35:02,655 --> 01:35:06,409
So many things happened
with me on the baseball field
2286
01:35:06,492 --> 01:35:11,622
that I could just look back
and just replay every moment.
2287
01:35:11,705 --> 01:35:15,418
I never had a day where
somebody would not come up
2288
01:35:15,501 --> 01:35:18,170
and say,
"I saw you make a play.
2289
01:35:18,254 --> 01:35:20,965
I love you because
of what you did for me."
2290
01:35:21,048 --> 01:35:23,676
And it made me feel
very, very proud
2291
01:35:23,759 --> 01:35:26,303
because not only
did I play baseball
2292
01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:30,349
for the people,
they enjoyed what I did.
2293
01:35:32,893 --> 01:35:36,814
- Ladies and gentlemen,
number 24, Willie Mays.
2294
01:35:36,897 --> 01:35:39,608
- ♪ Say hey, Willie ♪
2295
01:35:39,692 --> 01:35:41,652
♪ Greatest in the building,
what you got to say? ♪
2296
01:35:41,735 --> 01:35:44,113
♪ Willie, say hey ♪
2297
01:35:44,196 --> 01:35:46,824
♪ No question number 24,
will he amaze ya? ♪
2298
01:35:46,907 --> 01:35:48,951
♪ Say hey, Willie ♪
2299
01:35:49,034 --> 01:35:51,454
♪ Most exciting ballplayer
in the game to play ♪
2300
01:35:51,537 --> 01:35:54,290
♪ Willie, say hey,
Willie Mays ♪
2301
01:35:54,373 --> 01:35:55,750
- Who's the catcher
from the Braves
2302
01:35:55,833 --> 01:35:57,334
whose leg you broke?
2303
01:35:57,418 --> 01:35:59,837
- Del Rice, good guy.
2304
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,338
- Why'd you break his leg?
2305
01:36:01,422 --> 01:36:02,548
- He got in the goddamn way.
2306
01:36:02,631 --> 01:36:04,884
What do you mean, what--
how I broke his leg?
2307
01:36:04,967 --> 01:36:07,011
I broke it sliding home.
2308
01:36:07,094 --> 01:36:08,095
I told him.
2309
01:36:08,179 --> 01:36:09,889
I said, "You better the hell
out the way, man."
2310
01:36:09,972 --> 01:36:12,016
- You broke the same leg twice?
2311
01:36:12,099 --> 01:36:13,601
- Yep.
2312
01:36:13,684 --> 01:36:14,894
He got in the way twice,
2313
01:36:14,977 --> 01:36:17,188
put the leg out there
in front of me.
2314
01:36:17,271 --> 01:36:18,939
And I said, "You better get
that sumbitch back there
2315
01:36:19,023 --> 01:36:21,317
and hold it for a minute."
2316
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,486
Yeah, he's--
but he was a good guy.
2317
01:36:23,569 --> 01:36:25,779
I didn't--
I didn't hit him too hard.
2318
01:36:25,863 --> 01:36:27,656
Just a little bit.
2319
01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:29,492
- Just hard enough
to break his leg, right?
2320
01:36:29,575 --> 01:36:32,244
- [laughing]
Yeah, that was enough.
2321
01:36:32,328 --> 01:36:34,371
Who do you like on the team?
2322
01:36:34,455 --> 01:36:35,664
- On the Giants?
2323
01:36:35,748 --> 01:36:37,249
- Yeah.
- I'm a--I was a Yankee fan.
2324
01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:38,918
- [laughs]
- Huh?
2325
01:36:39,001 --> 01:36:40,711
- I was a Yankee fan.
2326
01:36:40,794 --> 01:36:43,088
- So?
- I like Mickey Mantle.
2327
01:36:43,172 --> 01:36:45,007
- What happened to me?
2328
01:36:45,090 --> 01:36:46,175
- [laughs]
2329
01:36:46,258 --> 01:36:47,676
- Oh, you left me already?
2330
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,386
- Oh, no.
- [laughs]
2331
01:36:49,470 --> 01:36:50,721
- I think you left me, brother.
2332
01:36:50,804 --> 01:36:52,223
[laughter]
2333
01:36:52,306 --> 01:36:54,517
- Oh, shit.
2334
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,936
Who else was out there
that could play?
2335
01:36:57,019 --> 01:36:58,354
- Babe Ruth?
2336
01:36:58,437 --> 01:36:59,355
- A'ight, well, fuck.
2337
01:36:59,438 --> 01:37:01,899
I ain't see Babe Ruth play.
- [laughs]
2338
01:37:01,982 --> 01:37:03,651
- What the hell
are you talking about?
2339
01:37:03,734 --> 01:37:05,861
I know Babe.
I met Babe
2340
01:37:05,945 --> 01:37:07,780
over in Long Island
a couple times,
2341
01:37:07,863 --> 01:37:09,698
but I don't--
- You met Babe Ruth?
2342
01:37:09,782 --> 01:37:11,534
- Yeah.
- Did you like Babe Ruth?
2343
01:37:11,617 --> 01:37:12,535
Did you like him as a person?
2344
01:37:12,618 --> 01:37:15,120
- Uh-oh, see, that's why
I don't say nothing.
2345
01:37:15,204 --> 01:37:16,997
[laughter]
2346
01:37:17,081 --> 01:37:19,166
- Ready?
2347
01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:21,085
- See, you tryin'.
- I'm tryin'!
2348
01:37:21,168 --> 01:37:24,088
[laughter]
2349
01:37:24,171 --> 01:37:26,090
- Oh, my God.
2350
01:37:26,173 --> 01:37:27,925
- 90-year-old man...
- Yo, that hurt.
2351
01:37:28,008 --> 01:37:29,468
- Whuppin' your ass.
2352
01:37:29,552 --> 01:37:30,553
- That did hurt.
2353
01:37:30,636 --> 01:37:31,929
- He wanted
to arm wrestle Willie.
2354
01:37:32,012 --> 01:37:34,765
- Arm wrestle, no.
[laughter]
2355
01:37:34,848 --> 01:37:39,186
I don't wanna break his arm
'cause he'll say I'm cheating.
2356
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:41,480
- Oh, you kicked my ass today,
but--
2357
01:37:41,564 --> 01:37:43,065
- In the interview
or the handshake?
2358
01:37:43,148 --> 01:37:45,067
- Both. I think both.
- Definitely both.
2359
01:37:45,150 --> 01:37:46,068
- I think both.
2360
01:37:46,151 --> 01:37:47,861
- I told you to be nice to him,
Willie.
2361
01:37:47,945 --> 01:37:48,946
What are you doing?
2362
01:37:49,029 --> 01:37:50,906
- I'll break that son
of a bitch next time.
2363
01:37:50,990 --> 01:37:52,074
[laughter]
2364
01:37:52,157 --> 01:37:55,536
- The New York Mets are proud
to announce
2365
01:37:55,619 --> 01:37:58,872
that in accordance
with Mrs. Payson's wishes
2366
01:37:58,956 --> 01:38:03,752
and at the urging
of his former Mets' teammates,
2367
01:38:03,836 --> 01:38:06,338
in recognition
of his contributions
2368
01:38:06,422 --> 01:38:09,842
to the Mets, as well
as baseball in New York
2369
01:38:09,925 --> 01:38:12,219
and the country at large,
2370
01:38:12,303 --> 01:38:16,807
Willie Mays' 24
will take its place
2371
01:38:16,890 --> 01:38:19,935
in the left field corner here
at Citi Field
2372
01:38:20,019 --> 01:38:23,731
with the other greats
in Mets' history.
2373
01:38:34,867 --> 01:38:37,077
[bright tone]
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