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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,543 --> 00:00:03,086 [TV static drones] 2 00:00:03,169 --> 00:00:05,839 [bright tone] 3 00:00:14,180 --> 00:00:17,100 [mellow music] 4 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:19,602 [cheers and applause] 5 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:21,229 announcer: This is gonna go away, back, 6 00:00:21,312 --> 00:00:23,440 and gone over the left field wall. 7 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:25,066 Line drive to center. 8 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:26,818 Ball was well-hit. 9 00:00:26,901 --> 00:00:28,611 But Willie Mays picks up two home runs here 10 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:29,946 in the sixth inning. 11 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:35,076 - Willie Mays is arguably one of the greatest, 12 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:36,828 if not the greatest player, 13 00:00:36,911 --> 00:00:38,788 in the history of Major League Baseball. 14 00:00:40,123 --> 00:00:43,793 - Mays changed the way the game was played. 15 00:00:43,877 --> 00:00:45,754 [cheers and applause] 16 00:00:45,837 --> 00:00:48,381 When Willie stepped on the field, 17 00:00:48,465 --> 00:00:51,634 it was like going to see Michael Jordan, 18 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:53,470 Muhammad. 19 00:00:53,553 --> 00:00:57,390 - He's an American icon, a beloved figure. 20 00:00:57,474 --> 00:00:59,642 - He was a gigantic star. 21 00:00:59,726 --> 00:01:01,519 It's just hard to quantify. 22 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:03,646 - But I think it's critical to understand who and what 23 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:04,981 Willie Mays is. 24 00:01:06,858 --> 00:01:10,278 - Willie Mays came out of segregated baseball 25 00:01:10,361 --> 00:01:11,696 in America. 26 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:15,283 - The expectation that he would shut up, 27 00:01:15,366 --> 00:01:16,701 don't raise any issues, 28 00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:19,621 especially if they have to do with race, 29 00:01:19,704 --> 00:01:22,415 just go out and play ball. 30 00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:24,417 Willie fulfilled that phenomenally 31 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:28,713 to such an extent that he actually drew criticism. 32 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:31,049 You gotta stand up and do more. 33 00:01:31,132 --> 00:01:33,009 You gotta stand up and speak out. 34 00:01:33,092 --> 00:01:35,762 Willie didn't want any part of that. 35 00:01:35,845 --> 00:01:39,182 - The words were hurtful to Willie. 36 00:01:39,265 --> 00:01:40,934 - He's a really complicated figure, 37 00:01:41,017 --> 00:01:42,936 kind of a fascinating figure. 38 00:01:43,019 --> 00:01:44,729 - It doesn't diminish his status 39 00:01:44,813 --> 00:01:48,066 as the greatest baseball player ever. 40 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:50,652 For a Black man to have done what he did 41 00:01:50,735 --> 00:01:52,821 at the time that he did it, 42 00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:55,198 maybe that's enough. 43 00:01:56,741 --> 00:01:58,493 - Are you Willie Mays, the greatest baseball player 44 00:01:58,576 --> 00:02:00,328 of all time? 45 00:02:00,411 --> 00:02:03,331 [cheers and applause] 46 00:02:03,414 --> 00:02:10,421 ♪ ♪ 47 00:02:12,298 --> 00:02:14,801 - Willie's always gonna be the godfather. 48 00:02:14,884 --> 00:02:17,053 You know, my dad passed away, 2003. 49 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,096 I had Willie. 50 00:02:18,179 --> 00:02:19,389 I never played a game 51 00:02:19,472 --> 00:02:22,475 without either one of them in my entire lifetime. 52 00:02:22,559 --> 00:02:23,518 We were in spring training 53 00:02:23,601 --> 00:02:25,395 and I was hitting towering home runs. 54 00:02:25,478 --> 00:02:28,523 Like, towering balls that were going like this. 55 00:02:28,606 --> 00:02:31,025 And Willie said that you gonna be in a slump, boy. 56 00:02:31,109 --> 00:02:32,193 And I said why? 57 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:35,071 He said, "The ball should never do this. 58 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:36,614 "That ball needs to go boom. 59 00:02:36,698 --> 00:02:39,200 You need--that ball needs to come off your bat like that." 60 00:02:39,284 --> 00:02:40,702 [Junior Walker & The All Stars' "Shotgun"] 61 00:02:40,785 --> 00:02:43,872 announcer: M-A-Y-S spells "Bye, bye, baby." 62 00:02:43,955 --> 00:02:45,540 The slugger opened the '61 season 63 00:02:45,623 --> 00:02:47,375 belting four homers in one game. 64 00:02:47,458 --> 00:02:49,919 Only nine ballplayers have ever accomplished the feat. 65 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:52,255 From there, Mays becomes the highest-paid 66 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:53,756 ballplayer in history. 67 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,259 announcer: 35-year-old Mays hit 52 homers 68 00:02:56,342 --> 00:02:58,761 and earned the Most Valuable Player award. 69 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:01,598 In his 535th career home run 70 00:03:01,681 --> 00:03:04,601 tops Jimmie Foxx and gives Mays sole possession 71 00:03:04,684 --> 00:03:06,936 of second place in total home runs hit. 72 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:10,773 Only Babe Ruth has blasted more four-baggers than Willie. 73 00:03:10,857 --> 00:03:13,067 - ♪ Do the dirty now ♪ 74 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:15,236 ♪ Hey ♪ 75 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,155 ♪ Put on your red dress ♪ 76 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:19,407 announcer: Drive to deep left center field. 77 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:21,367 It's gone! It's a home run. 78 00:03:21,451 --> 00:03:24,913 Number--number 599 of Mays' career. 79 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:25,955 announcer: Deep to left. 80 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:27,916 That one is way back. Way back there! 81 00:03:27,999 --> 00:03:30,501 - Willie Mays joined the great Babe Ruth 82 00:03:30,585 --> 00:03:33,671 as the only player to hit 600 home runs. 83 00:03:33,755 --> 00:03:35,798 announcer: 0 and 2. Wagner delivers. 84 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:38,176 Mays hits it into left. [cheers and applause] 85 00:03:38,259 --> 00:03:40,178 Willie Mays has done it again. 86 00:03:40,261 --> 00:03:44,307 He has brought the baseball world to a standstill. 87 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:47,769 - He is the most spectacular baseball player 88 00:03:47,852 --> 00:03:49,896 that ever played. 89 00:03:49,979 --> 00:03:52,607 - ♪ I said shotgun ♪ 90 00:03:52,690 --> 00:03:54,442 ♪ ♪ 91 00:03:54,525 --> 00:03:56,736 ♪ Shoot 'em 'fore they run now ♪ 92 00:03:56,819 --> 00:03:58,446 ♪ ♪ 93 00:03:58,529 --> 00:04:00,490 ♪ Do the jerk, baby ♪ 94 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:02,325 - Willie exceled. 95 00:04:02,408 --> 00:04:03,785 He ran bases. 96 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:05,745 People talk about how fast he could get 97 00:04:05,828 --> 00:04:07,580 from first to third. 98 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:09,749 Stealing home. 99 00:04:09,832 --> 00:04:11,626 Catching the ball like, you know, 100 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:14,796 we gon' put a little something on it, like right here. 101 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:16,589 So when you think about all that, 102 00:04:16,673 --> 00:04:19,717 he dominated the entirety of the game. 103 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:21,928 announcer: Many of Mays' former teammates were there 104 00:04:22,011 --> 00:04:26,391 as they honored Willie Mays as the greatest Giant ever. 105 00:04:26,474 --> 00:04:27,558 - ♪ Shotgun ♪ 106 00:04:27,642 --> 00:04:31,020 - I mean, he threw out over 7,000 baseball players 107 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:32,063 playing center field. 108 00:04:32,146 --> 00:04:34,524 That's the deepest part of the stadium. 109 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:38,152 660 home runs, 12 Golden Gloves 110 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:41,406 22 seasons, 24 All-Star games. 111 00:04:41,489 --> 00:04:44,492 But unless you know and follow the game, 112 00:04:44,575 --> 00:04:47,829 you don't really get a full appreciation 113 00:04:47,912 --> 00:04:49,497 of how great he was. 114 00:04:51,082 --> 00:04:53,876 - Why do you love baseball? 115 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,379 - Well, first of all, 116 00:04:56,462 --> 00:04:59,132 baseball was a game that you could play 117 00:04:59,215 --> 00:05:01,551 and you could play it for a long time. 118 00:05:01,634 --> 00:05:03,261 I picked baseball 119 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:05,596 because I could play it every day. 120 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,807 It was fun. 121 00:05:07,890 --> 00:05:11,644 Oh, I learned baseball when I was about four or five. 122 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:15,023 When I was a young man coming up, 123 00:05:15,106 --> 00:05:18,693 my father and I used to talk about baseball all the time. 124 00:05:18,776 --> 00:05:20,695 They called him Cat 125 00:05:20,778 --> 00:05:22,322 because he could run, 126 00:05:22,405 --> 00:05:24,699 he could throw, and he could field. 127 00:05:24,782 --> 00:05:26,200 And he could hit, man. 128 00:05:26,284 --> 00:05:28,036 He's a leadoff hitter. 129 00:05:28,119 --> 00:05:30,079 He and I would go to the baseball field-- 130 00:05:30,163 --> 00:05:31,831 and just the two of us-- 131 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:35,084 and he would show me how to do every position: 132 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:37,295 catching, second base, shortstop, 133 00:05:37,378 --> 00:05:41,966 because they look for you to be the leader. 134 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:46,095 And we lived in a town called Fairfield, Alabama. 135 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:50,933 - The thing about the state of Alabama in the 1940s, 136 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:54,062 it is Jim Crow America. 137 00:05:54,145 --> 00:05:56,647 I mean, it's almost undescribable. 138 00:05:56,731 --> 00:05:59,776 The things that we think of now as racist 139 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:04,947 were routine examples of everyday life. 140 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:06,866 White person walking down the street, 141 00:06:06,949 --> 00:06:09,243 you step off to the side, let them pass. 142 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:11,621 Don't look them directly in the eye. 143 00:06:11,704 --> 00:06:13,915 Yes, ma'am. No, sir. 144 00:06:13,998 --> 00:06:17,835 The whole bit. Hold your head down. 145 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:20,088 Think of every possible injustice 146 00:06:20,171 --> 00:06:23,966 you've ever heard about related to segregation and racism. 147 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:26,803 It was there and there in abundance. 148 00:06:26,886 --> 00:06:28,805 [film reel clicking] 149 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:32,016 - My mother and dad wasn't never together now. 150 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:33,976 They did their own thing. 151 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:37,939 My mother got married to a guy named Frank. 152 00:06:38,022 --> 00:06:39,732 So I didn't stay with my mother that long. 153 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:41,609 I stayed with my two aunts. 154 00:06:41,692 --> 00:06:46,239 Ernestine and Sarah, they took care of me. 155 00:06:46,322 --> 00:06:49,659 And my dad, he used to work in a steel mill. 156 00:06:49,742 --> 00:06:51,744 And he would always come home early, 157 00:06:51,828 --> 00:06:54,122 like, 2:00 in the afternoon, 158 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:56,290 and he would show me how to do a lot of things 159 00:06:56,374 --> 00:06:58,584 'cause he was a good baseball player. 160 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:00,962 Make sure that I didn't get in no trouble. 161 00:07:01,045 --> 00:07:03,005 I haven't been in no trouble 162 00:07:03,089 --> 00:07:07,468 since I was, I guess, two or three years old. 163 00:07:07,552 --> 00:07:10,388 - Babe Ruth used to say, "Start a boy young. 164 00:07:10,471 --> 00:07:13,891 Teach him to play ball when he's four years old." 165 00:07:13,975 --> 00:07:16,435 In the spring of any year, a boy with a bat and a ball 166 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:19,188 is secretly, to his father, a major leaguer. 167 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:21,440 So it was with Willie and his dad. 168 00:07:21,524 --> 00:07:22,817 - Well, when I actually-- when I started-- 169 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:24,777 first started playing ball was with my father, 170 00:07:24,861 --> 00:07:26,237 'bout five or six years old. 171 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,490 He was playing semipro ball around Birmingham, 172 00:07:29,574 --> 00:07:32,702 and he was working what you call a steel mill team 173 00:07:32,785 --> 00:07:33,703 around Birmingham. 174 00:07:33,786 --> 00:07:36,164 And I used to play with the big fellas, 175 00:07:36,247 --> 00:07:39,834 like, 19 and 20 years old, when I was about 12. 176 00:07:39,917 --> 00:07:42,378 announcer: It's a sport that appeals to all ages. 177 00:07:42,461 --> 00:07:44,172 The sound of a ball meeting a bat... 178 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:45,590 [bat cracks] Is a familiar ring 179 00:07:45,673 --> 00:07:47,884 to millions of people round the world. 180 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:51,512 - The Negro League was a Black baseball league. 181 00:07:51,596 --> 00:07:53,931 - If a Black man wanted to play baseball, 182 00:07:54,015 --> 00:07:57,768 he played in the Negro Leagues or he didn't play. 183 00:07:57,852 --> 00:08:00,605 - Baseball did not want Black players to participate 184 00:08:00,688 --> 00:08:02,648 in the league, and so concurrently 185 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:05,276 there was a league of Black teams 186 00:08:05,359 --> 00:08:06,944 from around the country 187 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:10,323 with the best Black players, Black owners. 188 00:08:10,406 --> 00:08:11,699 Everything about it was Black. 189 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:14,577 It was a reality in segregated America. 190 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:16,204 announcer: It's a game where the Negro athlete 191 00:08:16,287 --> 00:08:19,916 of today and yesteryear has left a bright mark. 192 00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:23,294 - When I got to be in high school, 193 00:08:23,377 --> 00:08:26,255 I was already playing professional ball, 194 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:27,965 but I couldn't say that. 195 00:08:28,049 --> 00:08:30,009 They could give me money under the table 196 00:08:30,092 --> 00:08:33,846 and I went home, and I gave it to my aunts. 197 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:36,974 Sometime I make 1,000. Sometime I make 2,000. 198 00:08:37,058 --> 00:08:38,893 But I had to come home, and they-- 199 00:08:38,976 --> 00:08:42,897 and my aunts would give me a couple dollars back 200 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,733 to put in my pocket so I could go to the movies, 201 00:08:45,816 --> 00:08:48,736 take the girls out, or whatever it would be. 202 00:08:48,819 --> 00:08:50,905 - I remember him as "Buck-duck." 203 00:08:50,988 --> 00:08:53,115 That was his nickname. 204 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:54,533 My dad, 205 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:57,078 he was with the Birmingham Black Barons 206 00:08:57,161 --> 00:08:58,663 in the old Negro League. 207 00:08:58,746 --> 00:09:00,581 He was first baseman. 208 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:03,417 He was the second baseman, and he was the manager. 209 00:09:03,501 --> 00:09:06,796 When Dad went to talk to Mays' father 210 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:09,632 about Mays playing, 211 00:09:09,715 --> 00:09:13,970 Mays' father knew that my dad would take good care 212 00:09:14,053 --> 00:09:17,765 of Buck-duck in his professional life. 213 00:09:17,848 --> 00:09:20,142 You know, try to keep him straight and everything. 214 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:22,311 Oh, Dad was a straight shooter. 215 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:24,146 - Well, Piper Davis is like the godfather 216 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:25,982 of Black baseball in Birmingham. 217 00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:28,609 He helped usher Willie Mays on to the team, 218 00:09:28,693 --> 00:09:31,279 was a mentor for Willie and a mentor 219 00:09:31,362 --> 00:09:33,739 for a lot of the Black Birmingham kids 220 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:35,283 that wanted to play baseball. 221 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:38,494 [upbeat music] 222 00:09:38,577 --> 00:09:40,246 They played in this ballpark. 223 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:43,791 Rickwood Field, America's oldest baseball park. 224 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:51,507 And the last park to play home to a Negro League team. 225 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:53,175 announcer: Here's your starting lineup. 226 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:57,346 Leading off and playing center field, Cool Papa Bell. 227 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:59,974 - The greatest baseball players of that time 228 00:10:00,057 --> 00:10:02,184 played in the Negro League. 229 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,687 Many of those players would have been great 230 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:05,813 in Major League Baseball 231 00:10:05,896 --> 00:10:08,274 had they been given the opportunity, 232 00:10:08,357 --> 00:10:10,985 but of course, not until Jackie Robinson 233 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:12,486 does that happen. 234 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:14,864 - If you didn't leave church early, 235 00:10:14,947 --> 00:10:16,490 you didn't get a seat in Rickwood 236 00:10:16,574 --> 00:10:19,327 when the Black Barons played. 237 00:10:19,410 --> 00:10:22,663 - When I played with the Birmingham Barons, 238 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:24,457 the guy that really helped me-- 239 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:26,167 actually, it was three guys. 240 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:28,252 Piper Davis was the manager. 241 00:10:28,336 --> 00:10:30,296 Artie Wilson was the shortstop, 242 00:10:30,379 --> 00:10:33,758 and Bill Greason was the pitcher. 243 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:35,760 - I had pretty good stuff. 244 00:10:35,843 --> 00:10:37,511 Well, I had my curveball. 245 00:10:37,595 --> 00:10:40,056 I did about 92 on the fastball. 246 00:10:40,139 --> 00:10:43,100 If I got two strikes on you, I said "Bye." 247 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:46,103 'Cause my-- my downer was like this. 248 00:10:46,187 --> 00:10:48,356 We were young on the club. 249 00:10:48,439 --> 00:10:50,024 We were rookies. 250 00:10:50,107 --> 00:10:52,360 And I, being a little older than Willie, 251 00:10:52,443 --> 00:10:54,653 I tried to help him all I could 252 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:57,698 because I was a little more knowledgeable of things 253 00:10:57,782 --> 00:10:58,824 than he was. 254 00:10:58,908 --> 00:11:01,243 We were friends and we played together 255 00:11:01,327 --> 00:11:03,204 in several places. 256 00:11:03,287 --> 00:11:04,538 - Willie was 17 years old. 257 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:07,917 He was literally a boy among men in many ways 258 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,752 except when it came to the ball field. 259 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:11,253 - ♪ Whoo ♪ 260 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:12,713 [Muddy Waters' "Mannish Boy"] 261 00:11:12,797 --> 00:11:14,757 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 262 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,258 ♪ ♪ 263 00:11:16,342 --> 00:11:17,885 ♪ Now when I was a young boy ♪ 264 00:11:17,968 --> 00:11:19,970 ♪ ♪ 265 00:11:20,054 --> 00:11:21,889 ♪ At the age of five ♪ 266 00:11:21,972 --> 00:11:23,349 ♪ ♪ 267 00:11:23,432 --> 00:11:25,309 ♪ My mother said I was gonna be ♪ 268 00:11:25,393 --> 00:11:26,936 ♪ ♪ 269 00:11:27,019 --> 00:11:28,729 ♪ The greatest man alive ♪ 270 00:11:28,813 --> 00:11:30,731 ♪ ♪ 271 00:11:30,815 --> 00:11:34,777 - The other guys are husbands, fathers, steel workers, 272 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:37,863 more mature men, and yet Willie's a kid. 273 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:39,949 And he had a youthful exuberance. 274 00:11:40,032 --> 00:11:42,868 They say he brought a lot of excitement to the team 275 00:11:42,952 --> 00:11:46,038 and probably is the reason they won their championship 276 00:11:46,122 --> 00:11:47,206 in 1948. 277 00:11:47,289 --> 00:11:49,083 - ♪ I spell M ♪ 278 00:11:49,166 --> 00:11:50,709 ♪ ♪ 279 00:11:50,793 --> 00:11:52,420 ♪ A, child ♪ 280 00:11:52,503 --> 00:11:53,796 ♪ ♪ 281 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:55,506 ♪ N ♪ 282 00:11:55,589 --> 00:11:57,258 ♪ ♪ 283 00:11:57,341 --> 00:11:58,300 ♪ That represents "man" ♪ 284 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:00,261 - At the end of the day, 285 00:12:00,344 --> 00:12:04,181 Piper came to me and he says, "What did you learn today?" 286 00:12:04,265 --> 00:12:07,309 And I had to tell him what I learned, 287 00:12:07,393 --> 00:12:10,104 how I learned, and "Can you do it tomorrow?" 288 00:12:10,187 --> 00:12:13,649 "Yeah, man. I can do it tomorrow." 289 00:12:13,732 --> 00:12:15,568 - ♪ I'm a man ♪ 290 00:12:15,651 --> 00:12:16,902 ♪ ♪ 291 00:12:16,986 --> 00:12:19,280 - When he played, he was a center fielder. 292 00:12:19,363 --> 00:12:21,949 So he would tell our left fielder and right fielder, 293 00:12:22,032 --> 00:12:23,951 "Don't come nowhere in here. 294 00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:26,162 "You go from where you are to the line, 295 00:12:26,245 --> 00:12:28,164 and everything else, I'll take care of." 296 00:12:28,247 --> 00:12:29,623 And he was--he was tremendous. 297 00:12:29,707 --> 00:12:31,584 He was a great young ballplayer. 298 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:33,502 [bat cracks] - So while Willie Mays, 299 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:36,130 as a 17-year-old, hit one home run 300 00:12:36,213 --> 00:12:37,673 for the Birmingham Black Barons, 301 00:12:37,756 --> 00:12:39,467 he was, by the end of the season, 302 00:12:39,550 --> 00:12:40,801 the starting center fielder 303 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:42,094 for this Black Barons team 304 00:12:42,178 --> 00:12:43,888 that went all the way to the Negro League World Series 305 00:12:43,971 --> 00:12:46,223 and actually got a game-winning hit in one of those games. 306 00:12:46,307 --> 00:12:52,855 ♪ ♪ 307 00:12:52,938 --> 00:12:55,024 - Do you remember when Jackie Robinson 308 00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:57,193 entered the major leagues? 309 00:12:57,276 --> 00:13:00,196 [soft orchestral music] 310 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:02,281 ♪ ♪ 311 00:13:02,364 --> 00:13:06,494 - When I saw Jackie, he could do everything. 312 00:13:06,577 --> 00:13:09,830 I was very impressed with what he could do. 313 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:13,667 He did everything, and he could hit, man. 314 00:13:13,751 --> 00:13:16,378 - So the first time Willie came across Jackie 315 00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:18,797 was at Rickwood Field when Willie was a kid, 316 00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:21,842 and Jackie brought a group of barnstormers 317 00:13:21,926 --> 00:13:23,344 through Birmingham. 318 00:13:23,427 --> 00:13:26,180 And that's when Jackie saw Willie for the first time, 319 00:13:26,263 --> 00:13:29,350 and Jackie actually recommended Willie Mays 320 00:13:29,433 --> 00:13:30,684 to the Brooklyn Dodgers. 321 00:13:30,768 --> 00:13:33,812 The Brooklyn Dodgers sent out a scout named Wid Matthews, 322 00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:36,023 and Wid Matthews saw Willie Mays play. 323 00:13:36,106 --> 00:13:37,900 He returned to Brooklyn and said, 324 00:13:37,983 --> 00:13:39,860 "The kid can't hit a curveball." 325 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:43,280 So otherwise, imagine that, Willie Mays a Dodger. 326 00:13:45,032 --> 00:13:46,951 April 15th, 1947, 327 00:13:47,034 --> 00:13:49,662 Jackie Robinson breaks into the big leagues. 328 00:13:49,745 --> 00:13:52,206 [cheers and applause] 329 00:13:52,289 --> 00:13:54,083 [percussive music] 330 00:13:54,166 --> 00:13:55,209 Branch Rickey, 331 00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:57,628 the owner of the Brooklyn Dodgers, signed him. 332 00:13:57,711 --> 00:13:59,838 - Well, all credit is really due to Robinson 333 00:13:59,922 --> 00:14:02,091 for whatever gamble there was in it 334 00:14:02,174 --> 00:14:04,176 or whatever sort of experiment it was. 335 00:14:05,469 --> 00:14:08,430 He handled it beautifully with a fine intelligence 336 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,391 to enable him to understand 337 00:14:10,474 --> 00:14:14,812 that he was carrying this load for 17 million people. 338 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:18,899 - They choreographed Jackie's career 339 00:14:18,983 --> 00:14:21,944 so that he looked like the all-American boy. 340 00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:24,780 He just happened to be a Negro, 341 00:14:24,863 --> 00:14:27,533 and what that meant was that you don't say anything, 342 00:14:27,616 --> 00:14:29,076 you don't do anything, you don't respond, 343 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:30,244 you don't fight back. 344 00:14:30,327 --> 00:14:32,913 You simply go and play baseball. 345 00:14:32,997 --> 00:14:34,415 - I want to know whether he's looking for somebody 346 00:14:34,498 --> 00:14:36,125 who's afraid to fight back. 347 00:14:36,208 --> 00:14:38,836 And his answer was stern. 348 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:40,462 "I'm looking for somebody with guts enough 349 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:41,797 not to fight back." 350 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,467 - That's what Willie Mays patterned himself after. 351 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:49,763 And so what Branch Rickey and the white owners did 352 00:14:49,847 --> 00:14:52,016 was to cherry-pick the Negro Leagues, 353 00:14:52,099 --> 00:14:56,145 oftentimes not even compensating the teams 354 00:14:56,228 --> 00:14:57,354 that he took the players from. 355 00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:58,772 They never compensated the Monarchs 356 00:14:58,856 --> 00:15:00,774 for Jackie Robinson. 357 00:15:00,858 --> 00:15:02,401 - Imagine if Major League Baseball 358 00:15:02,484 --> 00:15:05,279 had taken several Negro League teams 359 00:15:05,362 --> 00:15:07,656 and brought them into Major League Baseball. 360 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:09,325 You would've had Black ownership. 361 00:15:09,408 --> 00:15:11,201 It would have been true integration. 362 00:15:11,285 --> 00:15:14,955 What it was, ultimately, was a poaching 363 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:18,125 of the best players from the Negro Leagues 364 00:15:18,208 --> 00:15:21,503 that ultimately destroyed the league because it made 365 00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:24,298 the Negro League teams obsolete. 366 00:15:24,381 --> 00:15:27,301 [somber music] 367 00:15:27,384 --> 00:15:30,012 ♪ ♪ 368 00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:31,680 - Jackie Robinson walked through the door, 369 00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:33,223 but there had to be more than just one 370 00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:36,477 to actually stamp it that we're all here. 371 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Black African Americans are here. 372 00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:40,731 We're all in the league, and Willie's part of that history. 373 00:15:43,651 --> 00:15:45,152 - Willie was in five World Series, 374 00:15:45,235 --> 00:15:49,823 including the 1948 last Negro League World Series ever. 375 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:51,867 - I remember when we defeated Kansas City 376 00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:54,286 to get in the Negro World Series, 377 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:56,330 last Negro League World Series. 378 00:15:56,413 --> 00:15:58,040 Uh, did win the only game. 379 00:15:58,123 --> 00:16:02,544 We won in relief against the Homestead Grays. 380 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:05,422 They defeated us four games to one. 381 00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:08,550 And that was the end of the league. 382 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,803 Birmingham Black Barons, 383 00:16:10,886 --> 00:16:14,390 they were a terrific bunch of guys. 384 00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:16,225 - When I was about 15 or 16, 385 00:16:16,308 --> 00:16:18,060 I guess they had scouts watching me, 386 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:20,145 and they signed me with the Giants. 387 00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:24,358 And, as you know, they signed me right out of high school. 388 00:16:24,441 --> 00:16:28,654 Eddie Montague signed me to the Giants at that time. 389 00:16:28,737 --> 00:16:32,700 And I said, "Dad, well, I'm going where the money is." 390 00:16:32,783 --> 00:16:35,703 - The Giants are an historic franchise, 391 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:39,456 a National League team dating back to 1883. 392 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:40,582 For many of those years, 393 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:42,710 the Giants had been New York's team, 394 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:43,961 not the Yankees. 395 00:16:44,044 --> 00:16:45,421 But after the Dodgers, you know, 396 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:47,047 they signed Jackie Robinson, 397 00:16:47,131 --> 00:16:48,924 and that worked out beautifully. 398 00:16:49,007 --> 00:16:51,093 Then they signed Roy Campanella, 399 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:52,970 and they signed Don Newcombe. 400 00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:54,555 And immediately, they had three players 401 00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:55,973 from the old Negro Leagues 402 00:16:56,056 --> 00:16:57,808 who were three of the best and biggest stars 403 00:16:57,891 --> 00:16:59,017 in the National League. 404 00:16:59,101 --> 00:17:01,562 So I think Horace Stoneham, the owner of the Giants, 405 00:17:01,645 --> 00:17:03,397 whose father had owned the Giants, 406 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,065 Horace Stoneham finally realized 407 00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:06,900 we're being left in the dust. 408 00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:08,736 We need to get some players here. 409 00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:11,113 So they did get Hank Thompson, 410 00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:13,782 but they also got Willie Mays. 411 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:16,410 They sent him to the minor leagues for some seasoning. 412 00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:19,121 - So imagine a high school kid who just graduated 413 00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:23,083 assigned to the Trenton Giants in New Jersey, 414 00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:25,127 and you go from an all-Black league 415 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:26,253 to an all-white league. 416 00:17:26,336 --> 00:17:28,255 And I'm a teenager playing in this, 417 00:17:28,338 --> 00:17:30,632 and I'm playing some of these cities in the South. 418 00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:33,218 And I'm not hearing the things I heard in the Negro Leagues. 419 00:17:36,972 --> 00:17:38,307 - Trenton, New Jersey, 420 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:39,683 that was the Interstate League. 421 00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:42,686 I was the first Black in that particular league. 422 00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:46,815 And we played in a town called Hagerstown, Maryland. 423 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:49,443 Oh, I never forget this day, on a Friday. 424 00:17:49,526 --> 00:17:52,112 And they call you all kinds of names there. 425 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:53,614 "Nigger this, nigger that." 426 00:17:53,697 --> 00:17:57,117 And it was--and I said to myself, 427 00:17:57,201 --> 00:18:01,955 and which I think this is where Piper Davis came in in my mind. 428 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:05,959 "Hey, whatever they call you, they can't touch you. 429 00:18:06,043 --> 00:18:07,669 Don't--don't talk back." 430 00:18:07,753 --> 00:18:10,964 [melancholic music] 431 00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:12,341 - And that was his thing. 432 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:14,343 If he had anger about it, 433 00:18:14,426 --> 00:18:16,261 he left it on the field. 434 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:19,723 That's how he responded to racism that came toward him. 435 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:22,935 He was like, "Then I'll just destroy you on the field." 436 00:18:23,018 --> 00:18:24,686 - So he went to AAA. 437 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:27,231 Their AAA team was in Minneapolis, 438 00:18:27,314 --> 00:18:30,901 a team called the Minneapolis Millers. 439 00:18:30,984 --> 00:18:35,531 He was just destroying the pitching in AAA. 440 00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:37,866 Stealing bases, making great plays in the outfield. 441 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:39,368 Willie could do it all. 442 00:18:39,451 --> 00:18:43,664 Name a skill in baseball and Willie excelled at it. 443 00:18:43,747 --> 00:18:45,332 And the Giants were not doing that well. 444 00:18:45,415 --> 00:18:47,793 They were kind of stumbling around a little bit. 445 00:18:47,876 --> 00:18:50,879 So in late May, after his 20th birthday, 446 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:52,881 Leo Durocher, the Giants' manager, 447 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,551 brought him up from Minneapolis. 448 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:57,719 - Well of course, I'm very prejudiced 449 00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:58,762 when it comes to Willie Mays. 450 00:18:58,846 --> 00:19:02,391 I think he's the greatest ballplayer we have today. 451 00:19:02,474 --> 00:19:05,018 - Leo, oh, my God. 452 00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:08,856 Leo, he took care of me, man. 453 00:19:08,939 --> 00:19:12,150 - Leo Durocher was a Runyonesque character. 454 00:19:12,234 --> 00:19:13,861 He was a baseball guy, obviously, 455 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:16,321 but he also hung around with Hollywood types. 456 00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:19,116 He was married to the actress Laraine Day. 457 00:19:19,199 --> 00:19:22,703 He was suspended from baseball for a year in the 1940s 458 00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:24,413 for his association 459 00:19:24,496 --> 00:19:28,041 with supposedly unsavory characters. 460 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:31,920 He had been on the Yankees with Babe Ruth. 461 00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:35,090 He was a guy who spanned a lot of baseball history. 462 00:19:35,173 --> 00:19:39,303 He managed both the Dodgers and the Giants, 463 00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:42,139 and Leo loved Willie Mays. 464 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:44,975 - But when I met Leo, we was in spring training. 465 00:19:45,058 --> 00:19:47,227 They had me playing left field. 466 00:19:47,311 --> 00:19:48,770 And left field was too short. 467 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,065 There wasn't enough room out there for me to move around in. 468 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:55,027 And I caught about four or five balls 469 00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:58,113 in center field very easy, no problem. 470 00:19:58,196 --> 00:20:00,574 Leo said, "That's your position. 471 00:20:00,657 --> 00:20:04,202 When we bring you up, you gonna play center field." 472 00:20:04,286 --> 00:20:07,789 - Did you have a hard time adjusting? 473 00:20:07,873 --> 00:20:09,583 - No, I didn't have a hard time adjusting. 474 00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:12,544 I had a hard time just trying to hit the ball. 475 00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:14,296 - Charlie, when he first joined us, 476 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:17,799 I know he wasn't over 24 or 25, whatever it was. 477 00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:20,636 And I was a little disturbed, and one of my coaches came 478 00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:21,762 into me, Herman Franks, 479 00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,680 and said that you better go talk to your boy. 480 00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:25,641 He's sitting in front of his locker, crying. 481 00:20:25,724 --> 00:20:27,726 So I went down and put my arm around Willie. 482 00:20:27,809 --> 00:20:29,311 He was sitting there sobbing, and he said, "Listen, Leo, 483 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:30,979 and he talked in a high tenor voice, Charlie. 484 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,314 He said, "Listen, Leo," he said, 485 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,066 "I can't play up here." He said, "They're too tough 486 00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:35,192 "for me. I can't hit. 487 00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:37,611 I know they're gonna send me back to Minneapolis." 488 00:20:37,694 --> 00:20:38,779 And I put my arm around him and I said, 489 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:41,198 "Son, as long as I'm the manager 490 00:20:41,281 --> 00:20:42,282 "of the New York Giants, 491 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:44,159 "you're gonna be the center fielder. 492 00:20:44,242 --> 00:20:45,744 "We brought you up here to play center field, 493 00:20:45,827 --> 00:20:48,288 "and you're gonna play center field today, 494 00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:49,790 "tomorrow, next week, next month, 495 00:20:49,873 --> 00:20:51,625 "and as long as I'm here. 496 00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:52,793 "Go home. Get a good night's rest. 497 00:20:52,876 --> 00:20:54,211 Tomorrow's another day." 498 00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:56,546 The following day against Warren Spahn, 499 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:58,006 first ball pitch, over the roof. 500 00:20:58,090 --> 00:20:59,633 And believe me, Charlie, 501 00:20:59,716 --> 00:21:01,343 he literally carried us on his back 502 00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:03,470 for the next six weeks. 503 00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:05,847 - Willie looked up to Leo like a second father. 504 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,850 And Leo looked at Willie as the guy 505 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:11,812 who is gonna turn this team around. 506 00:21:11,895 --> 00:21:15,357 Because of that, Willie just went off in New York. 507 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,110 - I think Leo might have been the guy who first coined 508 00:21:18,193 --> 00:21:19,861 the idea of a five-tool player. 509 00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:21,446 - There is no question in my mind, 510 00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:23,782 but what he can do is the five essential things 511 00:21:23,865 --> 00:21:25,701 better than any other player today, 512 00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:28,078 and that's hit, hit with power, 513 00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:30,288 run, field, and throw. 514 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:32,332 - Willie is a ten on a ten scale 515 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,209 in all five of those. 516 00:21:34,292 --> 00:21:35,585 Hit for average. 517 00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:36,837 Hit for power. 518 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,881 Run, field, throw. 519 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:42,509 - So it'd come to 1951. 520 00:21:42,592 --> 00:21:45,429 This team could win because this guy is gonna lead us 521 00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:47,055 to the World Series, I'm telling you. 522 00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:49,391 He helped the Giants turn that season around 523 00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:50,434 in a big way. 524 00:21:50,517 --> 00:21:52,602 The Giants, in one of the greatest pennant races 525 00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:55,605 in history, the greatest comeback of all time. 526 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,816 - He was on deck when Bobby Thomson hit 527 00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,068 "The Shot Heard Round the World." 528 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,278 announcer: There's a long drive... 529 00:22:01,361 --> 00:22:02,863 it's gonna be, I believe... 530 00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:04,531 the Giants win the pennant! 531 00:22:04,614 --> 00:22:07,034 The Giants win the pennant! The Giants... 532 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,036 - Bottom of the ninth, they're down 4 to 1. 533 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,996 Bobby Thomson hits the three-run homer. 534 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:12,205 Giants win it 5 to 4. 535 00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:15,959 - Everybody was running to home plate. 536 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,628 I was the last guy 537 00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:21,840 to get to home plate because I didn't realize 538 00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:23,592 that the game was over. 539 00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:25,052 We won the pennant. 540 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:28,680 And we--we just had, you know, a good time after that. 541 00:22:28,764 --> 00:22:31,600 And then when we went into the clubhouse, 542 00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:35,937 everybody was drinking champagne and stuff like that. 543 00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:38,273 They gave me a little bit of champagne, 544 00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:41,568 and they tell me that I fell out. 545 00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:43,445 - [laughs] - And when I woke up, 546 00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:46,490 I was home in the bed. 547 00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:48,241 - Because it was the World Series-- 548 00:22:48,325 --> 00:22:50,243 everybody watched the World Series-- 549 00:22:50,327 --> 00:22:53,371 it really put Willie in that spotlight nationally. 550 00:22:53,455 --> 00:22:56,249 - New York really was the capital of baseball 551 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:57,584 at that point. 552 00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:59,878 Not only were there great teams, 553 00:22:59,961 --> 00:23:01,546 but some of the most significant 554 00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,799 and historic players in the game's history 555 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:05,634 were there at the same time. 556 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,303 announcer: Bobby Brown uncorked the mighty blast. 557 00:23:08,386 --> 00:23:12,057 It sends Mays ranging far back to haul it in. 558 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:15,435 He slips and falls hard when he tries to put on the brakes. 559 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,814 And Woodling jogs easily to third after the catch. 560 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,650 DiMaggio comes into the batter's box. 561 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,944 Joe connects with a solid blow 562 00:23:24,027 --> 00:23:26,446 and clouts a mighty two-run homer. 563 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,740 - The Yankees ended up winning in six games. 564 00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,575 announcer: The Yankees take the Series, 565 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,119 four games to two. 566 00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:36,123 And thus the record book closes on 1951, 567 00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:38,917 one of the most brilliant and thrilling years 568 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,421 in all the exciting history of baseball. 569 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:45,674 - I had a good year in '51. 570 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:49,845 I think I hit .274, but it was--it was good. 571 00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:53,849 - So here's a 20-year-old Willie Mays in '51. 572 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:57,060 He introduces himself, and he's in the World Series. 573 00:23:57,144 --> 00:23:58,895 He's a year out of high school. 574 00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:01,314 He's a starting center fielder in the Polo Grounds. 575 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:05,819 And the following May, he's drafted into the army. 576 00:24:05,902 --> 00:24:07,320 - I... - Willie Howard Mays... 577 00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:09,364 - Do solemnly swear... - Do solemnly swear... 578 00:24:09,447 --> 00:24:11,283 - That I will bear true faith and allegiance... 579 00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:12,659 - That I will bear true faith and allegiance... 580 00:24:12,742 --> 00:24:14,119 - To the United States of America... 581 00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:15,704 - To the United States of America. 582 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,832 I tried to get a whole year in with the Giants... 583 00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:21,835 [dramatic musical sting] - But they called me. [laughs] 584 00:24:21,918 --> 00:24:23,712 - Willie's drafted into the army, 585 00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:26,840 not to fight, but to play ball, to entertain the troops. 586 00:24:26,923 --> 00:24:29,259 [somber music] 587 00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:30,594 ♪ ♪ 588 00:24:30,677 --> 00:24:32,387 - I traveled all over 589 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:35,098 'cause I played the army, navy, marines. 590 00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:37,058 All those guys, 591 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:38,226 we killed them. 592 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,061 - And during the Korean War, 593 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:42,731 he introduced the basket catch to the world. 594 00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,901 - The guys gave me the name "The Basket Catch." 595 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:47,277 Every time I would catch it, 596 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,696 "Oh, he's making a basket catch today." 597 00:24:49,779 --> 00:24:51,198 - And the basket catch is-- 598 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:52,782 you know, we're all taught as Little Leaguers, 599 00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:54,534 two hands, see the ball into the gl-- 600 00:24:54,618 --> 00:24:55,744 well, Willie, "No, 601 00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:57,704 I'm gonna catch it down here at belt level." 602 00:24:57,787 --> 00:25:00,749 - And then when I got out of the army 603 00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:02,417 to come back to the Giants, 604 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,921 they just threw that in, the writers I'm talking about. 605 00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:09,758 And they just got--took it and they just ran with it. 606 00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:12,385 - He played in the army for two years. 607 00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:14,930 When he came out of the army in '54, 608 00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,307 Mays came back to his home in Harlem 609 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:18,934 and came back to the Giants. 610 00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:20,101 [Ella Fitzgerald's "Drop Me Off in Harlem"] 611 00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:23,939 - ♪ Drop me off in Harlem ♪ 612 00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:27,484 ♪ Any place in Harlem ♪ 613 00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:30,570 ♪ There's someone waiting there ♪ 614 00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:36,117 ♪ Who makes it seem like heaven up in Harlem ♪ 615 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,327 ♪ I don't want... ♪ 616 00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:39,621 - So Willie's time in Harlem in the '50s 617 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:42,582 was crucial to his development as a man 618 00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:44,793 as well as a ballplayer. 619 00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:46,711 He was just a teenager in Alabama, 620 00:25:46,795 --> 00:25:48,004 but now here he was living 621 00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:50,173 in one of the biggest cities in the world 622 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:54,135 in the most famous Black community in America. 623 00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:56,304 Willie lived on St. Nicholas Place 624 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,932 just a block and half from the Polo Grounds. 625 00:25:59,015 --> 00:26:02,978 But his main hangout was the Red Rooster on 7th Ave 626 00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:05,021 in the 130s, 627 00:26:05,105 --> 00:26:07,440 which was part of a vibrant strip of bars 628 00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,276 and nightclubs. 629 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,820 The Red Rooster was a short drive or walk 630 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:13,613 from the Polo Grounds. 631 00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:16,616 Willie would go there, and he like to play pool. 632 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,159 They'd give him a table in the back 633 00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:21,579 where he could eat after the game and socialize. 634 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:23,123 He didn't drink or smoke, 635 00:26:23,206 --> 00:26:26,167 but he liked to hang out there and enjoy his celebrity. 636 00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:28,670 Supposedly the uptown gamblers, 637 00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,046 they wouldn't let him hang out too late. 638 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:32,299 They made sure he went home and got his sleep 639 00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:34,175 when they bet on the Giants. 640 00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:37,512 - Red Rooster, that's a-- that was the restaurant 641 00:26:37,595 --> 00:26:39,514 that was George Woods', 642 00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:41,474 and George, I don't know. 643 00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:43,018 Somebody must have called him 644 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:46,980 because every night about 9:00, 645 00:26:47,063 --> 00:26:49,691 here he come. [grumbling] 646 00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:51,318 "You gotta go home." 647 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:52,694 And I said, "What you mean, I gotta go? 648 00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:53,820 It's just only 9:00." 649 00:26:53,903 --> 00:26:55,488 "No, no, no. You gotta go home." 650 00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:59,451 'Cause I had a big table for about ten 651 00:26:59,534 --> 00:27:01,328 in the back of the restaurant. 652 00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:06,333 So they parked my car right by the back door 653 00:27:06,416 --> 00:27:08,084 of the Red Rooster. 654 00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,919 And they made sure 655 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:12,213 that I didn't get in no trouble. 656 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:13,882 - And imagine, you know, 657 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:15,759 your table at the Red Rooster. 658 00:27:15,842 --> 00:27:18,053 You not in no hurry to go back to Alabama. 659 00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:19,304 [laughs] 660 00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:21,389 - ♪ If Harlem moved to China ♪ 661 00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:23,224 ♪ I know nothing finer ♪ 662 00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:29,689 ♪ Than to be in Harlem ♪ 663 00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:34,361 - Not only is Willie Mays in Harlem, he's the man. 664 00:27:34,444 --> 00:27:37,405 - Everybody took care of me, made sure I got back home, 665 00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:39,574 made sure that I got to the ballpark, 666 00:27:39,657 --> 00:27:42,660 made sure that no one bothered me 667 00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:45,914 'cause everyone on 7th Avenue knew who I was. 668 00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:50,919 They didn't--nobody said nothing out of the way to me. 669 00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:53,254 [lively jazz music] 670 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:56,257 The kids found out that I could play stickball. 671 00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,802 And they knocked on my window every day. 672 00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:01,096 In the South, we didn't call it stickball. 673 00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,556 We called it, like, broomball. [kids shouting] 674 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,309 And that's how I learned how to hit the ball. 675 00:28:06,393 --> 00:28:07,894 We'd take the mop, 676 00:28:07,977 --> 00:28:09,062 cut the head off, 677 00:28:09,145 --> 00:28:11,564 and now we got a long stick. 678 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,068 When it bounced and come up to me, 679 00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:17,404 I could hit it a long ways. 680 00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,906 - So a lot of the mornings, he would play stickball 681 00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:21,616 with the kids in the streets of Harlem 682 00:28:21,699 --> 00:28:26,037 and then afterward treat 'em to cake and ice cream. 683 00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:28,289 - All the kids, they'd come by, like, 8:00, 684 00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:30,041 9:00 in the morning. 685 00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:32,293 I had to play for about a hour. 686 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:34,796 When I played a night game, I'd go out to play stickball 687 00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:38,174 with the guys about 3:00 or 4:00, 688 00:28:38,258 --> 00:28:41,302 and then I go to the ballpark all the time. 689 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,514 And the kids enjoyed that very much. 690 00:28:44,597 --> 00:28:46,850 It was just a fun time. 691 00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:50,812 - Can you imagine the great Willie Mays plays stickball 692 00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:52,689 just like the rest of us? 693 00:28:52,772 --> 00:28:56,985 So there were a lot of things that we identified with Willie. 694 00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:59,863 Willie's first year with the Giants 695 00:28:59,946 --> 00:29:02,490 was my second year broadcasting. 696 00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,826 So really, we were both kids. 697 00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:06,661 And I gravitated to him 698 00:29:06,744 --> 00:29:09,205 because I loved the way he played. 699 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:13,168 I think most of us were absolutely blown away 700 00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:15,670 by his overall ability. 701 00:29:15,753 --> 00:29:17,672 And it was his attitude. 702 00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:21,009 To me, in watching him, he wasn't a big leaguer. 703 00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,969 He was a kid playing the outfield 704 00:29:23,052 --> 00:29:25,180 and loving every minute of it. 705 00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:28,016 Mays catching this one is like a seagull dipping for a fish. 706 00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:30,018 There he goes. 707 00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:31,269 - This is the new Willie Mays, 708 00:29:31,352 --> 00:29:34,439 and the country is on fire because of this man. 709 00:29:34,522 --> 00:29:37,192 He just lights up every ballpark. 710 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:40,904 - My dad took me to one game at the Polo Grounds. 711 00:29:40,987 --> 00:29:43,031 We're seated down the right field line. 712 00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:45,658 And I'm on my father's shoulders 713 00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:48,495 when he says to me, "Bobby, look. 714 00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,038 "See that player right there? 715 00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:51,664 That's Willie Mays," 716 00:29:51,748 --> 00:29:55,043 as if he was saying to his son the equivalent of, 717 00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:57,587 "Son, that's the Washington Monument. 718 00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:59,172 "That's the Grand Canyon. 719 00:29:59,255 --> 00:30:01,049 "You'll never forget having been here. 720 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:04,385 That's Willie Mays." 721 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:07,055 - The epitome of Willie Mays at the Polo Grounds 722 00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:10,225 was the famous catch in 1954. 723 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:12,268 Game one of the World Series, 724 00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:13,394 New York Giants against 725 00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:15,605 the heavily favored Cleveland Indians 726 00:30:15,688 --> 00:30:16,898 of the American League. 727 00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:19,234 And the Indians that year had a great pitching staff, 728 00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:20,652 a deep lineup, a good defense. 729 00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:22,904 They were stacked. 111 wins. 730 00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:25,657 They were expected to sweep that Series. 731 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,204 "The Catch" in '54, 732 00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:33,122 the most famous catch in the World Series history 733 00:30:33,206 --> 00:30:34,374 that lives on to this day, 734 00:30:34,457 --> 00:30:36,000 turned that World Series around. 735 00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:39,254 - Vic Wertz hit a ball over his head. 736 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,631 - With a runner at first and at second base, 737 00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:44,634 Vic Wertz hit a shot that's a home run 738 00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:45,760 in any other ballpark. 739 00:30:45,843 --> 00:30:46,928 [bat cracks] 740 00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:47,971 [watch ticking] 741 00:30:48,054 --> 00:30:49,681 [cheers and applause] 742 00:30:49,764 --> 00:30:52,767 - Vic hit the ball so hard and so high. 743 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:56,271 - But what made it amazing was, Willie played shallow, 744 00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:58,398 and Willie ran. 745 00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,900 announcer: But there goes Willie! 746 00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:02,694 - Willie sprinted back on the ball. 747 00:31:02,777 --> 00:31:03,695 [suspenseful music] 748 00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:05,405 - He didn't worry about any walls 749 00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:07,574 because it was so deep. 750 00:31:07,657 --> 00:31:10,743 - With his back to the infield, running on the dead run, 751 00:31:10,827 --> 00:31:12,412 looked up. 752 00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:13,788 The ball dropped over his shoulder. 753 00:31:13,871 --> 00:31:16,040 He reached out and made the catch. 754 00:31:16,124 --> 00:31:18,293 [cheers and applause] 755 00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:20,795 - Part of it was catching it over your head. 756 00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:22,463 That's what made it amazing. 757 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,173 And then he just turned around and winged it. 758 00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:26,301 - I caught it very quickly 759 00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,886 and got rid of it back into the infield. 760 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:30,638 announcer: And he makes a miraculous catch 761 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,640 as he stops a step short of the wall. 762 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:35,184 - He sends that ball back to the infield 763 00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:37,312 in a split second. 764 00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:38,938 - They had Larry Doby. 765 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:40,356 Larry was on second. 766 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,401 - And Willie knew that the ball was so deep 767 00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:45,945 that there was a good chance that that runner would score. 768 00:31:46,029 --> 00:31:48,281 - He had to come back, touch third, 769 00:31:48,364 --> 00:31:50,450 go back to second, touch second, 770 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:52,160 and he didn't even score. 771 00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:54,162 - When Willie Mays went back for that catch 772 00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:55,997 and them 30 yards went to 40 yards 773 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,833 and a little further, that's, to us, as athletes, 774 00:31:58,916 --> 00:32:00,668 makes it phenomenal. 775 00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:03,171 [ticking] 776 00:32:03,254 --> 00:32:05,673 - Those 6.5 seconds 777 00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:07,800 from the time Wertz hits the ball 778 00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:10,511 till the time Mays let go of the ball 779 00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,014 are 6.5 seconds in American history 780 00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,558 that everybody should know about. 781 00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:18,686 - What you have just seen is a glimpse 782 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:20,980 of athletic genius. 783 00:32:21,064 --> 00:32:22,815 [soft triumphant music] 784 00:32:22,899 --> 00:32:27,820 That catch is one of the greatest 785 00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:32,992 athletic performances in sports history. 786 00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:36,162 - And with the momentum created by Willie's catch, 787 00:32:36,245 --> 00:32:38,289 the Giants won the World Series. 788 00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:40,083 announcer: In the clubhouse, bedlam breaks loose 789 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:42,210 as television crews, photographers, 790 00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:44,712 and newspapermen endeavor to record the scene. 791 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:47,548 - That World Series was one of the biggest upsets 792 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:49,092 of all time. 793 00:32:49,175 --> 00:32:51,678 And television was just becoming a big thing. 794 00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,638 Before that, everybody listened to the World Series. 795 00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:54,889 Everybody was tuned in 796 00:32:54,972 --> 00:32:56,265 one way or the other to the World Series. 797 00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:59,394 - Baseball, America's number one sport 798 00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:02,021 and one which has a season running for half the year, 799 00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:04,315 is number one on television too. 800 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:07,360 The athletes' audience is vastly increased. 801 00:33:07,443 --> 00:33:10,613 Television holds them by the millions. 802 00:33:10,697 --> 00:33:13,408 - I think it's important that Willie spent 803 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,703 the first portion of his career in New York 804 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:19,872 because when television was in its infancy 805 00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:22,375 and there weren't that many games on TV, 806 00:33:22,458 --> 00:33:25,920 the nation by and large saw the All-Star game 807 00:33:26,003 --> 00:33:27,130 and the World Series. 808 00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:29,006 And they watched television shows 809 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,884 that emanated from New York. 810 00:33:31,968 --> 00:33:34,137 - Another great star from Alabama, 811 00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:38,599 Willie Mays led the National League with .342. 812 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:43,771 - And at that time, to see any Black person on television 813 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,064 was--was rare. 814 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,316 - Well, I've had a few base hits in my career, 815 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,569 but I think the biggest thrill I got-- 816 00:33:49,652 --> 00:33:51,946 up until the ball was caught, that is-- 817 00:33:52,029 --> 00:33:53,448 was the ball that Willie caught 818 00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:55,199 in the World Series of last year. 819 00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:57,910 I think I also got more publicity outta that ball too. 820 00:33:57,994 --> 00:33:59,620 [laughter] 821 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:02,290 - Well, Willie, uh, when did you change your method 822 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:04,083 of catching a ball? 823 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:06,753 And what--what-- how--how long ago was that? 824 00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:08,296 - Well, I spent two years in the army, 825 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,006 and I said to myself, 826 00:34:10,089 --> 00:34:11,591 "Now when I come out of the army, I have to, 827 00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:12,675 you know, have something new." 828 00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:14,802 I said, "Well, I better practice on this." 829 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:18,222 Well, I, you know, perfected it pretty good, and I use it. 830 00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:19,474 - What--what is the difference in it? 831 00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:20,892 How--how--how do you-- 832 00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:22,310 - Well, it relaxes me. 833 00:34:22,393 --> 00:34:25,313 I can catch it easier that way. I don't know, maybe-- 834 00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:27,440 - You didn't relax Vic Wertz, that's all I gotta say to you. 835 00:34:27,523 --> 00:34:28,900 [laughter] 836 00:34:28,983 --> 00:34:32,612 - So the whole country had a better sense of them 837 00:34:32,695 --> 00:34:35,448 than they did of the stars on other teams 838 00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:36,741 outside their own cities. 839 00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:40,036 So here's Willie Mays, 840 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,248 the first great African American superstar. 841 00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,835 After the war, Willie Mays busted through 842 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:52,340 to show the world that baseball is changing. 843 00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:55,927 [The Treniers' "Say Hey (The Willie Mays Song)"] 844 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:57,512 - ♪ Say hey ♪ - ♪ Say who? ♪ 845 00:34:57,595 --> 00:34:59,138 - ♪ Say Willie ♪ 846 00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:00,973 ♪ Say hey ♪ - ♪ Say who? ♪ 847 00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:03,309 ♪ Swinging at the plate, say hey ♪ 848 00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:05,561 - ♪ Say who? ♪ - ♪ Say Willie ♪ 849 00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:08,981 ♪ That Giants kid is great ♪ 850 00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:12,819 ♪ He hits the ball, it's long gone, man ♪ 851 00:35:12,902 --> 00:35:15,696 ♪ Hits it farther than Campy can ♪ 852 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,574 ♪ Swings the bat like a little lead pipe ♪ 853 00:35:18,658 --> 00:35:21,619 ♪ When they reach the ball, it's overripe ♪ 854 00:35:21,702 --> 00:35:23,454 ♪ Say hey ♪ - ♪ Say who? ♪ 855 00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:25,498 - I came to New York when I was 19, 856 00:35:25,581 --> 00:35:27,500 and I was very shy. I didn't know anybody. 857 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:29,877 I was starting saying, "Come here. Say hey." 858 00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,712 We had a lot of great New York writers 859 00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:33,548 who would say, "Oh, there go the 'Say Hey Kid,'" 860 00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:34,882 and it stuck with me. 861 00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:37,051 - ♪ Say Willie ♪ 862 00:35:37,134 --> 00:35:38,678 ♪ Whatcha gonna say? ♪ 863 00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:40,388 ♪ ♪ 864 00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:41,556 ♪ Say hey ♪ 865 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,600 [cheers and applause] 866 00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:47,812 - 1958 will always be remembered 867 00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:49,564 as the year Major League Baseball came 868 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:50,815 to the West Coast. 869 00:35:50,898 --> 00:35:52,567 And baseball takes top billing 870 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:56,028 as the spotlight shines on the San Francisco Giants. 871 00:35:56,112 --> 00:36:00,074 - And in 1958, Horace Stoneham moves to San Francisco 872 00:36:00,157 --> 00:36:02,368 because the O'Malleys are moving to Los Angeles. 873 00:36:02,451 --> 00:36:05,371 [soft music] 874 00:36:05,454 --> 00:36:08,666 - Walter O'Malley broke the hearts of Brooklyn fans 875 00:36:08,749 --> 00:36:10,376 moving the Dodgers to LA, 876 00:36:10,459 --> 00:36:13,880 but the same thing happened to Giants fans. 877 00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:18,217 ♪ ♪ 878 00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:20,595 Giants fans told me the story: 879 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:23,598 Horace Stoneham broke my heart when he moved the Giants, 880 00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:25,266 and I've never forgiven him. 881 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:26,601 But Willie Mays, 882 00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:28,436 as long as they had Willie Mays, 883 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:30,438 I still cared about the Giants. 884 00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:32,857 - In San Francisco, the big city is big league 885 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:34,942 for the first time, and a gala parade 886 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:37,236 down Market Street bids the Giants welcome 887 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,572 as they open the season in their new home. 888 00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:42,241 - By that time, I think Willie was the Giants. 889 00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:44,744 He was the face of the franchise. 890 00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:46,537 - I think that without Willie Mays, 891 00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:50,249 you don't have the Giants that we've all come to know 892 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,460 and love in the Bay Area. 893 00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:56,839 It's hard for me to imagine San Francisco being interested 894 00:36:56,923 --> 00:36:59,091 in the Giants moving from New York 895 00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:01,469 without Willie Mays. 896 00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:05,973 He was a linchpin factor in that deal being made. 897 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,726 - An extra burst of cheers greets Willie Mays. 898 00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:11,020 The Say Hey Kid is at home already. 899 00:37:11,103 --> 00:37:13,814 A parade that marks the making of baseball history, 900 00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:16,734 San Francisco Giants meet Los Angeles Dodgers, 901 00:37:16,817 --> 00:37:19,695 the West Coast's first big league baseball game ever, 902 00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:21,280 but incidentally, a continuation 903 00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,449 of an old, old diamond rivalry. 904 00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:24,992 - Seals Stadium, the new home of the Giants, 905 00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,744 is a beehive of activity 906 00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:29,497 as ushers and ticket takers prepare for the big ride 907 00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:31,415 in the new era of baseball. 908 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:32,792 The Say Hey Kid, Willie Mays, 909 00:37:32,875 --> 00:37:34,669 gets his first safety in San Francisco 910 00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:36,754 to put Mantle on first and second. 911 00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:40,633 Willie Kirkland touches Ron Negray for a single 912 00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:42,176 that produces a final run. 913 00:37:42,259 --> 00:37:44,887 And the San Francisco Giants make a successful debut 914 00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:48,182 in their new home by thrashing Los Angeles 8 to 0. 915 00:37:48,265 --> 00:37:50,935 23,000 fans leave Seals Stadium, 916 00:37:51,018 --> 00:37:52,853 confident that Major League Baseball 917 00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:55,231 is on the West Coast to stay. 918 00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:56,983 - When the Giants and the Dodgers moved 919 00:37:57,066 --> 00:38:00,444 to the West Coast, it made it truly a national game. 920 00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:03,531 - But in San Francisco, they did not warm to Willie 921 00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:05,032 when he first got here. 922 00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:07,660 - Why didn't they embrace Willie Mays in San Francisco? 923 00:38:07,743 --> 00:38:09,370 Well, for one thing, Joe DiMaggio. 924 00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:13,165 ♪ ♪ 925 00:38:13,249 --> 00:38:16,544 - DiMaggio was born and raised in San Francisco 926 00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:18,879 and had played for the San Francisco Seals 927 00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:22,633 in the Pacific Coast League before going to the Yankees. 928 00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:24,677 So he's already a legend. 929 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,221 He's their center fielder. 930 00:38:27,304 --> 00:38:28,973 - He was a man about town. 931 00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:30,224 He had his own restaurant. 932 00:38:30,307 --> 00:38:32,184 It was the Toots Shor of San Francisco. 933 00:38:33,686 --> 00:38:34,895 - So Willie shows up, 934 00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:37,189 but this is Joe DiMaggio's town. 935 00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:39,191 That's Joe DiMaggio's stadium. 936 00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,152 That's Joe DiMaggio's position. 937 00:38:41,235 --> 00:38:43,195 Who's Willie Mays? 938 00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:45,239 - Willie Mays is a New York Giant. 939 00:38:45,322 --> 00:38:47,074 These are San Francisco Giants. 940 00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,869 - They played at Seals Stadium the first two years. 941 00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:52,705 Seals Stadium was big, 420 to center. 942 00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:54,707 - Without doubt, Mays finds himself playing 943 00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:58,085 in the shadow of San Francisco's own Joe DiMaggio. 944 00:38:58,169 --> 00:38:59,754 San Francisco wants a winner, 945 00:38:59,837 --> 00:39:01,547 but the fans don't get it those first years 946 00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:02,840 at Seals Stadium 947 00:39:02,923 --> 00:39:06,302 even with Mays hitting a career high of .347 in 1958. 948 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:12,933 - Willie's gone through a lot of racial discrimination 949 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:15,603 even here in San Francisco, where San Francisco is probably 950 00:39:15,686 --> 00:39:19,565 the most unracist part of this state 951 00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:20,900 that you can imagine. 952 00:39:20,983 --> 00:39:23,235 I mean, they'll shut down anything for equality here, 953 00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:25,029 which is-- I really respect and love. 954 00:39:25,112 --> 00:39:27,948 But, you know, at one point, Willie did go through that. 955 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:31,368 [cheering] 956 00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:35,456 - I think they accepted him as a athletic star, 957 00:39:35,539 --> 00:39:39,293 but not as a person they wanted to live next door to, 958 00:39:39,376 --> 00:39:42,880 not as a person that they wanna have their kids hang out with. 959 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:47,802 In the late '50s, San Francisco was different. 960 00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:51,097 For openers, you couldn't be a policeman if you were Black. 961 00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:52,681 You couldn't be a deputy sheriff. 962 00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:54,141 You couldn't be a fireman. 963 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,352 You couldn't live in certain parts of the city 964 00:39:56,435 --> 00:39:58,020 if you were Black. 965 00:39:58,104 --> 00:40:00,731 White people were more honest in those days. 966 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:02,983 They told you up-front 967 00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,986 that you were not welcome in the neighborhood, 968 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,988 and it was the same all over the city. 969 00:40:09,532 --> 00:40:12,451 Willie wanted to live on Miraloma Drive 970 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,120 in San Francisco. 971 00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:17,248 And Willie and his then-wife, Margherite, 972 00:40:17,331 --> 00:40:20,126 tried to buy a house in Miraloma Drive. 973 00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,002 - They picked out a home, a beautiful home 974 00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,754 overlooking the water. 975 00:40:23,838 --> 00:40:26,465 And Willie was denied. Why? 976 00:40:26,549 --> 00:40:28,676 Because of the color of his skin. 977 00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:33,013 - Willie Mays was a celebrity of great stature. 978 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:36,433 He could afford the $35,000 or $40,000. 979 00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:38,352 The homes in that neighborhood, 980 00:40:38,435 --> 00:40:40,396 he could not buy there. 981 00:40:40,479 --> 00:40:42,481 The neighborhood went crazy. 982 00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:45,192 They didn't want Willie Mays or anybody else Black 983 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,360 in their neighborhood. 984 00:40:46,443 --> 00:40:48,028 Some white guy sold him the house, 985 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,865 and then the guy had to pull back. 986 00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:51,824 - The mayor said, "Hey, 987 00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:53,451 "you could live over here with me. 988 00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:55,202 Live in my house till you find another place." 989 00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:56,537 He said, "No, I want this place." 990 00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:58,247 The realtor said, "Hey, I can find you 991 00:40:58,330 --> 00:40:59,373 another place in another neighborhood." 992 00:40:59,456 --> 00:41:01,125 Willie said, "No, I want this place." 993 00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:05,838 - An organization called the Council for Civic Unity 994 00:41:05,921 --> 00:41:08,966 jumped in on Willie Mays' behalf. 995 00:41:09,049 --> 00:41:10,342 - Did you make a deposit on the house? 996 00:41:10,426 --> 00:41:11,552 - Yes, we did, yes. 997 00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:12,761 - I see. 998 00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:14,555 And, uh, there's been some discussion 999 00:41:14,638 --> 00:41:17,099 about you not being able to buy it, is that correct? 1000 00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:18,726 - Well, not now. The guy-- 1001 00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:20,144 the owner just called me today 1002 00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:22,021 and said he was very happy to sell me the house 1003 00:41:22,104 --> 00:41:23,856 in the--in the neighborhood. 1004 00:41:23,939 --> 00:41:25,816 - I see. - I don't know where-- 1005 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:28,819 - They finally did get the house. 1006 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:32,156 But it was over the objections of the neighbors. 1007 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,824 - In years to come, Mays would receive everything 1008 00:41:33,908 --> 00:41:35,743 from daily advice in the newspapers... 1009 00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:36,869 [glass shattering] To a bottle thrown 1010 00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:39,038 by a fanatic through his front room window. 1011 00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:40,873 - That bottle came, 1012 00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:44,210 and it caused the then-Mrs. Mays 1013 00:41:44,293 --> 00:41:46,086 to want to get back to New York 1014 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:48,255 as fast as she could. 1015 00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:52,134 And that may have contributed to their divorce. 1016 00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:54,803 - You indicated that you and Willie might move back 1017 00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:57,264 to New York after this season. 1018 00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:59,141 Does this mean you like New York 1019 00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:00,768 or dislike San Francisco? 1020 00:42:00,851 --> 00:42:01,977 What's the real reason? 1021 00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,105 - Well, we like San Francisco and we like New York. 1022 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:08,651 And we still have a home in the east. 1023 00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:12,905 - Willie Mays' efforts to get a house in this city 1024 00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:18,244 was as important as his 660th home run 1025 00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:19,870 for San Francisco 1026 00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:24,416 because it launched the real, dedicated effort 1027 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:26,460 to integrate this city. 1028 00:42:26,543 --> 00:42:27,795 - Willie got the house, 1029 00:42:27,878 --> 00:42:30,839 and he'll tell you that it's not just for me. 1030 00:42:30,923 --> 00:42:33,300 It's for the next guy to move into the neighborhood. 1031 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:36,095 It's for the next minority who wants to buy a home there 1032 00:42:36,178 --> 00:42:38,806 because that next minority's not gonna be Willie Mays. 1033 00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:43,477 Willie Mays had the power to open the door for others. 1034 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,897 And in that particular case, he did. 1035 00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:50,609 - In the end, the evidence not only of his greatness, 1036 00:42:50,693 --> 00:42:53,946 but of the joy that he brought to the field 1037 00:42:54,029 --> 00:42:55,322 transmitted to the fans. 1038 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:58,993 Willie was about joy as much as he was about greatness. 1039 00:42:59,076 --> 00:43:01,453 He won them over. 1040 00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:02,955 announcer: Sophisticated San Francisco 1041 00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:05,332 lets its hair down and embraces baseball 1042 00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:06,375 to its bosom. 1043 00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:08,168 Willie Mays and his flashing plays make 1044 00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:09,795 an immediate hit. 1045 00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:12,464 Willie Mays, San Francisco's Say Hey hero, 1046 00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:15,217 hoists a humpback ball to right. 1047 00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:17,344 Pafko just misses the shoestring catch 1048 00:43:17,428 --> 00:43:20,597 as Mays blazes the bases for a double. 1049 00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:23,684 Giant jubilation literally rocks the joint. 1050 00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:24,810 [cheers and applause] 1051 00:43:24,893 --> 00:43:26,854 - They played at Seals Stadium 1052 00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:28,480 the first two years, '58 and '59, 1053 00:43:28,564 --> 00:43:30,357 while Candlestick was being built. 1054 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:33,277 announcer: $15 million Candlestick Park is opened 1055 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,862 by the San Francisco Giants 1056 00:43:34,945 --> 00:43:38,198 for the inaugural of the 1960 National League season. 1057 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:41,368 Giants owner Horace Stoneham welcomed vice president Nixon. 1058 00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:43,162 And with a Giant on base, 1059 00:43:43,245 --> 00:43:45,706 Willie Mays draws a walk. 1060 00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:49,209 - I think it was the writer Jack London who said, 1061 00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,253 "The coldest winter I ever spent 1062 00:43:51,337 --> 00:43:53,380 was July in San Francisco." 1063 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:56,133 That Candlestick Park with the winds swirling 1064 00:43:56,216 --> 00:43:57,509 literally in June and July. 1065 00:43:57,593 --> 00:44:01,388 And those winds did not help Willie Mays' home run total. 1066 00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:03,557 [Wes Montgomery's "California Dreaming"] 1067 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,850 Candlestick Park, 1068 00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:06,393 the worst place in the Bay Area 1069 00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:08,562 to put a stadium, right next to the bay, 1070 00:44:08,645 --> 00:44:10,981 windy, cold. 1071 00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:13,025 The designers brought the city officials out 1072 00:44:13,108 --> 00:44:14,109 at 11:00 in the morning and said, 1073 00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:15,527 "God, what a beautiful place." 1074 00:44:15,611 --> 00:44:16,862 Well, they didn't go at night. 1075 00:44:16,945 --> 00:44:18,697 'Cause if they showed up at night, 1076 00:44:18,781 --> 00:44:20,657 it's the windiest place on earth. 1077 00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:24,745 But that's where Candlestick Park was built. 1078 00:44:24,828 --> 00:44:26,205 announcer: And for Mays and the Giants, 1079 00:44:26,288 --> 00:44:27,873 playing at night at Candlestick Park 1080 00:44:27,956 --> 00:44:31,293 can sometimes be quite an experience. 1081 00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:33,337 [wind whistling] 1082 00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:35,255 - Candlestick Park was open-air. 1083 00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,800 The winds would pour in from left field generally. 1084 00:44:37,883 --> 00:44:41,428 - The wind would blow it to the right center. 1085 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:45,432 I had to wait until that wind hit it, 1086 00:44:45,516 --> 00:44:47,935 and then it'd come... come straight down. 1087 00:44:48,018 --> 00:44:50,979 - Willie was having home runs knocked down to left field. 1088 00:44:51,063 --> 00:44:53,899 - I couldn't get the ball out of the ballpark. 1089 00:44:53,982 --> 00:44:55,734 The wind would blow it back, 1090 00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:57,319 and I hit it hard. 1091 00:44:57,403 --> 00:44:58,737 - So Willie didn't complain. 1092 00:44:58,821 --> 00:45:01,698 He adjusted and learned how to adapt his swing 1093 00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:02,741 to Candlestick Park. 1094 00:45:02,825 --> 00:45:04,493 There was a jet stream out in right center, 1095 00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:06,578 so he got the ball up and out. 1096 00:45:06,662 --> 00:45:10,332 - I would've hit another 10. Maybe 10 or 15. 1097 00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,000 announcer: Diagonal hurler Larry Jackson 1098 00:45:12,084 --> 00:45:14,586 gives Orlando Cepeda one he likes. 1099 00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:16,463 [cheers and applause] 1100 00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:19,633 400 feet into deep center for a triple. 1101 00:45:19,716 --> 00:45:21,468 - You have to go to a night game 1102 00:45:21,552 --> 00:45:25,305 in Candlestick so you can experience 1103 00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:27,808 the coldest night ever. 1104 00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:32,187 It was so cold that you are afraid to swing 1105 00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:36,108 because you hit the ball hard some place, 1106 00:45:36,191 --> 00:45:38,652 boy, you're really like this for three innings. 1107 00:45:38,735 --> 00:45:41,572 [cheers and applause] 1108 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,121 The reason I came to play ball was because of Willie, 1109 00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:54,042 when Willie Mays came to Puerto Rico in 1954. 1110 00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:56,420 - Players often would play winter ball. 1111 00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:58,672 They would go not only to hone their skills, 1112 00:45:58,755 --> 00:46:01,675 but to make extra money in Puerto Rico 1113 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:05,012 or sometimes even Cuba back then. 1114 00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:07,514 It was huge because the islands 1115 00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:10,184 would incorporate their own players 1116 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,352 with the great American ball players. 1117 00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:14,605 - I was a bag boy 1118 00:46:14,688 --> 00:46:18,192 for the team that Willie play in Puerto Rico. 1119 00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:20,319 After watching Willie play, 1120 00:46:20,402 --> 00:46:21,862 I want to be a ball player. 1121 00:46:21,945 --> 00:46:24,323 - The Giants signed quite a few Latin players, 1122 00:46:24,406 --> 00:46:27,326 especially Dominican players. 1123 00:46:27,409 --> 00:46:29,870 The Giants got ahead 1124 00:46:29,953 --> 00:46:32,122 of the other Major League teams. 1125 00:46:32,206 --> 00:46:34,416 - When I walked through that gate 1126 00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:37,586 to the San Francisco Giants to go to the clubhouse, 1127 00:46:37,669 --> 00:46:41,256 Felipe Alou and Orlando Cepeda was waiting for me, 1128 00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:44,218 and they gave me a big welcome. 1129 00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:47,471 They introduced me to each player 1130 00:46:47,554 --> 00:46:50,057 in the San Francisco Giants. 1131 00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:52,643 And I gonna be playing the same field 1132 00:46:52,726 --> 00:46:54,561 with Willie Mays. 1133 00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,021 [light upbeat music] 1134 00:47:19,711 --> 00:47:20,754 [laughs] 1135 00:47:20,837 --> 00:47:22,381 - [laughs] 1136 00:47:28,428 --> 00:47:30,973 [laughing] He seems happy. 1137 00:47:31,056 --> 00:47:33,934 - This fella is the greatest baseball player of our time. 1138 00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:35,936 Mays is in a class by himself, 1139 00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,480 then you start rating the other ball players. 1140 00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:40,065 You start rating the Mickey Mantles, 1141 00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:42,192 the Ted Williams, the Stan Musials. 1142 00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:43,860 But none of them could do the things 1143 00:47:43,944 --> 00:47:45,279 that Willie Mays could do 1144 00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:47,739 because Willie could do so many things. 1145 00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:50,701 - He was shortstop when I was in New York. 1146 00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:54,037 He came to California, and he was my manager. 1147 00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:58,125 He made me the captain of the whole team on the field. 1148 00:47:58,208 --> 00:48:00,294 Whatever I said, that's what they did. 1149 00:48:00,377 --> 00:48:02,170 If they didn't do it, they didn't play. 1150 00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:04,339 - You had the power to bench a guy the next day 1151 00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:06,675 regardless of what Alvin Dark or Herman Franks 1152 00:48:06,758 --> 00:48:08,135 or whoever was the manager said? 1153 00:48:08,218 --> 00:48:10,470 - Mm-hmm. I ran the field, you know? 1154 00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:14,349 And I said to Herman, "You run the bench. 1155 00:48:14,433 --> 00:48:16,518 I'll run the field." - [laughs] 1156 00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:18,770 - I didn't have a coach when I played. 1157 00:48:18,854 --> 00:48:20,105 I didn't have one. 1158 00:48:20,188 --> 00:48:22,691 Everything I did was on my own. 1159 00:48:22,774 --> 00:48:23,817 And I told him, I said, 1160 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:25,110 "Man, I don't know if I can do that." 1161 00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:26,486 "Yes, you can. 1162 00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:28,905 "You do whatever you wanna do on the field, 1163 00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:31,074 and I'll take care of the rest of it." 1164 00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:33,118 - You just had a sense of the game. 1165 00:48:33,201 --> 00:48:36,622 - And the rule that we had when I played: 1166 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:38,123 just one hand. 1167 00:48:38,206 --> 00:48:41,335 It'd go left or right. 1168 00:48:41,418 --> 00:48:44,296 Anytime that hand moved, you gotta move. 1169 00:48:44,379 --> 00:48:46,715 That's the only rule we ever had in the outfield. 1170 00:48:46,798 --> 00:48:50,802 Now if you didn't see that, you didn't play the next day. 1171 00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:52,012 Very simple. 1172 00:48:52,095 --> 00:48:53,597 - Willie was the leader in our team. 1173 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,681 Yeah, and there was no question, 1174 00:48:54,765 --> 00:48:55,724 no question about it. 1175 00:48:55,807 --> 00:48:57,684 We didn't have nobody in the team 1176 00:48:57,768 --> 00:49:01,647 that could lead us the way that Willie did. 1177 00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:05,442 - So we start gelling very quickly. 1178 00:49:05,525 --> 00:49:07,986 All the guys began to play together, 1179 00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:10,822 not no one man playing this, one man playing that. 1180 00:49:10,906 --> 00:49:16,995 I wanted nine guys on that field to play together. 1181 00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,790 That's all I wanted, and once we play together, 1182 00:49:19,873 --> 00:49:20,999 we can win. 1183 00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:22,834 announcer: Orlando Cepeda hammers the ball 1184 00:49:22,918 --> 00:49:24,127 into deep right center. 1185 00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:25,921 Mays trots home from third, 1186 00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:28,548 and Cepeda pulls up at second base with a double. 1187 00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:30,425 announcer: Marichal, a perennial all-star, 1188 00:49:30,509 --> 00:49:32,386 is ready to take on the American League's best 1189 00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:33,679 once again. 1190 00:49:35,472 --> 00:49:37,265 announcer: After he retires the first two, 1191 00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:39,601 Lee Walls flies to Willie Mays. 1192 00:49:39,685 --> 00:49:43,146 Charging in, Alou dives and comes up with a ball. 1193 00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:45,607 - Marichal was one of several Latin players 1194 00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:48,193 to pay handsome dividends to the Giants. 1195 00:49:48,276 --> 00:49:51,238 - In '62, Willie had an MVP-caliber year, 1196 00:49:51,321 --> 00:49:53,949 hit 49 home runs, led San Francisco 1197 00:49:54,032 --> 00:49:55,325 to their first post-season. 1198 00:49:55,409 --> 00:49:57,411 They had this incredible final week. 1199 00:49:57,494 --> 00:49:59,246 So now it's a best-of-three playoff-- 1200 00:49:59,329 --> 00:50:02,040 Giants and Dodgers, just like '51. 1201 00:50:02,624 --> 00:50:04,376 Game three is at Dodger Stadium. 1202 00:50:04,459 --> 00:50:06,253 This is the year Dodger Stadium opened, 1203 00:50:06,336 --> 00:50:09,214 and they did big-time box office business. 1204 00:50:09,297 --> 00:50:10,632 But the Dodgers go to the ninth inning 1205 00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:11,758 ahead 4 to 2. 1206 00:50:11,842 --> 00:50:14,886 The Giants start rallying. 1207 00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:17,597 The Giants get 4 runs to go ahead 6 to 4. 1208 00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:20,684 And Willie Mays had one of the big hits in the rally. 1209 00:50:20,767 --> 00:50:22,269 The Dodgers just fell apart. 1210 00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:25,188 And finally here's a fly ball to Willie Mays in center field. 1211 00:50:25,272 --> 00:50:27,399 announcer: Lee Walls flies to Willie Mays 1212 00:50:27,482 --> 00:50:28,567 for the final out. 1213 00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:29,735 - And he takes the ball out of his glove, 1214 00:50:29,818 --> 00:50:31,903 and he flings it up into the stands. 1215 00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:33,572 Giants have won the pennant. 1216 00:50:33,655 --> 00:50:35,782 announcer: And now it's on to San Francisco 1217 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:38,577 and the World Series with the New York Yankees. 1218 00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:40,662 [lively music] 1219 00:50:40,746 --> 00:50:42,789 - We played good to beat the Dodgers. 1220 00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:45,709 And we played good in the World Series 1221 00:50:45,792 --> 00:50:46,918 against the Yankees. 1222 00:50:47,002 --> 00:50:49,212 - The next day they were facing Whitey Ford 1223 00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:50,797 at Candlestick Park. 1224 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,799 The World Series, for the first time, 1225 00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:54,301 has come to San Francisco. 1226 00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:56,803 [soft music] 1227 00:50:56,887 --> 00:50:59,681 [cheers and applause] 1228 00:50:59,765 --> 00:51:00,974 announcer: With the players lined up 1229 00:51:01,057 --> 00:51:03,810 on the infield, the crowd comes to attention 1230 00:51:03,894 --> 00:51:05,020 for the national anthem. 1231 00:51:05,103 --> 00:51:07,939 - I remember we started it in San Francisco. 1232 00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:09,608 They win one. We win one. 1233 00:51:09,691 --> 00:51:12,027 And we went to Yankee Stadium. 1234 00:51:12,110 --> 00:51:14,446 [excited chatter] 1235 00:51:14,529 --> 00:51:17,616 announcer: Willie Mays takes batting practice. 1236 00:51:17,699 --> 00:51:19,785 The tying run is now at the plate. 1237 00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:22,579 But Davenport flies to Tresh for the final out. 1238 00:51:22,662 --> 00:51:25,081 And the Yankees again lead in the series, 1239 00:51:25,165 --> 00:51:27,334 two games to one. 1240 00:51:27,417 --> 00:51:29,836 - And I-- I started the fourth game. 1241 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,547 I was pitching the best game of my life. 1242 00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:34,549 I strike out Mickey Mantle twice. 1243 00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:36,468 I end up winning that game. 1244 00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:37,511 - Let's go! 1245 00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:40,806 - And then game five we lost. 1246 00:51:40,889 --> 00:51:42,891 We came back to San Francisco. 1247 00:51:42,974 --> 00:51:44,017 - They were coming back from New York 1248 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,644 for games six and seven. 1249 00:51:45,727 --> 00:51:48,980 And there were several days of rain. 1250 00:51:49,064 --> 00:51:52,025 The worst storm in a century hit the Bay Area. 1251 00:51:52,108 --> 00:51:54,653 The field at Candlestick had absorbed rain 1252 00:51:54,736 --> 00:51:56,530 for four days in a row. 1253 00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:57,572 It was wet. 1254 00:51:57,656 --> 00:51:58,698 They had brought in helicopters. 1255 00:51:58,782 --> 00:51:59,991 There were these incredible pictures 1256 00:52:00,075 --> 00:52:02,619 of the helicopters hovering low over the field 1257 00:52:02,702 --> 00:52:04,955 at Candlestick 'cause they're trying to dry off the field. 1258 00:52:05,038 --> 00:52:06,373 announcer: The fans are on edge 1259 00:52:06,456 --> 00:52:08,834 because the Giants ae fighting for survival. 1260 00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:11,044 Willie Mays never seems to lose his zest 1261 00:52:11,127 --> 00:52:12,629 or his brilliance. 1262 00:52:12,712 --> 00:52:14,881 - So finally, the bottom of the ninth inning 1263 00:52:14,965 --> 00:52:15,924 of game seven... 1264 00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:19,052 - Willie's at the plate. 1265 00:52:19,135 --> 00:52:20,720 The ninth inning of the seventh game 1266 00:52:20,804 --> 00:52:22,764 of the 1962 World Series. 1267 00:52:22,848 --> 00:52:25,767 [low suspenseful music] 1268 00:52:25,851 --> 00:52:27,727 ♪ ♪ 1269 00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:29,521 - Before I got to bat, 1270 00:52:29,604 --> 00:52:32,649 Matty Alou bunted. 1271 00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:34,860 [cheers and applause] 1272 00:52:34,943 --> 00:52:37,195 - Matty Alou was on first base with two out. 1273 00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:38,488 Yankees lead 1-0. 1274 00:52:38,572 --> 00:52:39,656 Willie's the hitter. 1275 00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:43,368 He doubles down the right field line. 1276 00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,078 - But when I hit the ball, 1277 00:52:45,161 --> 00:52:47,539 it didn't go to the fence like it usually go. 1278 00:52:47,622 --> 00:52:51,167 He caught it before it went to the fence, but it was wet. 1279 00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:52,919 - Roger Maris makes a really good play 1280 00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:54,796 to cut it off before it gets to the fence. 1281 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,881 - He fielded a wet ba-- 1282 00:52:55,964 --> 00:52:57,549 it had to be a soaking wet baseball, 1283 00:52:57,632 --> 00:53:00,010 and he fired a perfect relay throw 1284 00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:01,469 to Bobby Richardson, the second baseman, 1285 00:53:01,553 --> 00:53:03,263 who was a Gold Glover, and then Richardson threw 1286 00:53:03,346 --> 00:53:04,222 to the plate on one hop 1287 00:53:04,306 --> 00:53:06,057 right to Elston Howard, the catcher. 1288 00:53:08,184 --> 00:53:11,813 The third base coach held up Matty Alou. 1289 00:53:11,897 --> 00:53:13,773 And the story was always felt 1290 00:53:13,857 --> 00:53:17,611 that Matty would've been dead if he'd tried to score. 1291 00:53:17,694 --> 00:53:19,738 But Willie... 1292 00:53:19,821 --> 00:53:22,240 - I asked Willie about that. 1293 00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:24,534 Willie said to me, 1294 00:53:24,618 --> 00:53:27,913 "If I had been the runner instead of the batter, 1295 00:53:27,996 --> 00:53:30,916 "I would've run right through that stop sign. 1296 00:53:30,999 --> 00:53:34,294 I would've made them make a perfect play to get me." 1297 00:53:34,377 --> 00:53:38,131 - And he held up Matty at third and me at second. 1298 00:53:38,214 --> 00:53:40,133 - The next batter is McCovey. 1299 00:53:40,216 --> 00:53:41,635 He hit a line drive. 1300 00:53:41,718 --> 00:53:43,803 [cheers and applause] 1301 00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:46,473 - Willie McCovey hit right to Bobby Richardson. 1302 00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:52,812 - And he caught the ball in short right--right field. 1303 00:53:52,896 --> 00:53:55,690 - A couple inches either way, and the Giants score 2 runs 1304 00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:57,275 and win the game 2 to 1. 1305 00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:59,653 announcer: The 20th world championship won 1306 00:53:59,736 --> 00:54:02,364 by the New York Yankees. 1307 00:54:02,447 --> 00:54:05,325 He's carried off the field on the shoulders... 1308 00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:06,952 [cheers and applause] 1309 00:54:07,035 --> 00:54:09,162 - The Giants won only one pennant in the '60s, 1310 00:54:09,245 --> 00:54:11,539 but they had the best record in the '60s. 1311 00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:14,125 They finished second five straight years. 1312 00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:16,378 They were a great team. 1313 00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:20,757 - We had seven Latin players, 1314 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,801 so we would talk Spanish. 1315 00:54:22,884 --> 00:54:26,012 I remember in the dugout one time, you know, 1316 00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:27,681 I don't wanna say the name who did it, 1317 00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:30,892 but he came up to me and said, "Juan, speak English. 1318 00:54:30,976 --> 00:54:32,352 You in America." 1319 00:54:35,772 --> 00:54:38,316 - Alvin Dark turned off a lot of minorities. 1320 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,861 He said some things, some very regrettable things. 1321 00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:44,948 - I remember what happened to Orlando. 1322 00:54:45,031 --> 00:54:46,992 - Well, in my case, 1323 00:54:47,075 --> 00:54:50,161 because I like-- I love music so much, 1324 00:54:50,245 --> 00:54:55,625 I carried my record player with me on the big LP. 1325 00:54:55,709 --> 00:54:59,212 But Alvin Dark, because he don't like music, 1326 00:54:59,295 --> 00:55:00,880 he tried to stop me. 1327 00:55:00,964 --> 00:55:05,677 And he gave order 1328 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,388 to the clubhouse man 1329 00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:12,892 for me not to bring my music with me on the road. 1330 00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:16,062 If I can't bring my music with me, 1331 00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:18,064 I'm not going nowhere. 1332 00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:21,484 - He would not allow Spanish to be spoken in the clubhouse. 1333 00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:22,944 [somber music] 1334 00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:24,571 Cepeda and some of the other minorities 1335 00:55:24,654 --> 00:55:25,530 were ready to walk out. 1336 00:55:25,613 --> 00:55:27,073 It was gonna be a mutiny. 1337 00:55:27,157 --> 00:55:31,036 - Willie had to talk to Alvin about the situation. 1338 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:35,498 - He says, "You go and you do what you have to do, 1339 00:55:35,582 --> 00:55:38,793 and I will back you up for the fullest." 1340 00:55:38,877 --> 00:55:40,587 And he did. 1341 00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:42,589 Alvin Dark. That's what I said. 1342 00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:44,924 A lot of people say, "Well, he's a racist." 1343 00:55:45,008 --> 00:55:46,384 I don't think so. 1344 00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:50,472 - Willie got in between, 1345 00:55:50,555 --> 00:55:55,018 and Willie tried to tell me, "You a baseball player. 1346 00:55:55,101 --> 00:55:58,813 "Put aside the manager, whatever he say. 1347 00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:02,233 If you do well, everybody gonna like you." 1348 00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:03,902 So that really helped me. 1349 00:56:03,985 --> 00:56:05,528 - Willie was always like that. 1350 00:56:05,612 --> 00:56:06,780 He was, um, 1351 00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:09,449 he just saw things differently, you know? 1352 00:56:09,532 --> 00:56:12,077 Willie just said, just-- "Let's play the game. 1353 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,578 "You know, let's just--we got-- 1354 00:56:13,661 --> 00:56:15,080 we got to stick together. Let's just play the game." 1355 00:56:15,163 --> 00:56:19,209 He had just a different perspective on things and a-- 1356 00:56:19,292 --> 00:56:23,129 more of a outgoing personality toward that. 1357 00:56:24,714 --> 00:56:26,633 - Alvin kept doing it. 1358 00:56:26,716 --> 00:56:28,551 There was gonna be a mutiny. 1359 00:56:28,635 --> 00:56:31,971 Alvin was fired after the season. 1360 00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:33,640 So Willie's a great uniter. 1361 00:56:33,723 --> 00:56:36,976 He's a great peacemaker, the captain. 1362 00:56:38,645 --> 00:56:41,356 The Giants had the best road attendance 1363 00:56:41,439 --> 00:56:43,775 in the National League throughout the '60s. 1364 00:56:43,858 --> 00:56:46,111 They had the Alou brothers. 1365 00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:47,278 They had Cepeda. 1366 00:56:47,362 --> 00:56:49,489 They had McCovey, Marichal, Perry. 1367 00:56:49,572 --> 00:56:52,075 But it was Mays who brought the fans in. 1368 00:56:52,158 --> 00:56:53,952 It was Mays who united that team, 1369 00:56:54,035 --> 00:56:55,578 who made that team good enough 1370 00:56:55,662 --> 00:56:58,790 for everybody to wanna go see the Giants. 1371 00:56:58,873 --> 00:57:01,709 - I got this Willie Mays bat last week. 1372 00:57:01,793 --> 00:57:03,128 I told the youngsters of the country 1373 00:57:03,211 --> 00:57:06,005 that I'd ask you to give them a couple of tips on hitting. 1374 00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:07,715 - Well, I could've used this bat today, Ed. 1375 00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:10,385 - [laughs] - Why you give it to me now? 1376 00:57:10,468 --> 00:57:13,054 - Willie was so naturally effervescent 1377 00:57:13,138 --> 00:57:15,807 and such a gifted storyteller 1378 00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:18,852 and so comfortable in front of the cameras 1379 00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:22,313 that much of white America felt comfortable with him. 1380 00:57:22,397 --> 00:57:25,525 He wasn't outwardly political, so that might-- 1381 00:57:25,608 --> 00:57:27,318 may have put people at ease. 1382 00:57:27,402 --> 00:57:29,362 - Hey, Sam! 1383 00:57:29,445 --> 00:57:30,697 - Say Hey, Willie! 1384 00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:33,491 - I did three or four different things 1385 00:57:33,575 --> 00:57:35,493 that came out of Hollywood. 1386 00:57:35,577 --> 00:57:37,162 [phone rings] 1387 00:57:37,245 --> 00:57:39,164 [bright music] 1388 00:57:39,247 --> 00:57:40,999 - Donna. - Willie. 1389 00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:42,667 What a nice surprise. - How are you? 1390 00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:43,710 - Will you join us? 1391 00:57:43,793 --> 00:57:45,253 - Oh, no. Thank you, Donna. 1392 00:57:45,336 --> 00:57:46,713 I just stopped by to see a friend of mine. 1393 00:57:46,796 --> 00:57:47,922 He owns this place. - Oh. 1394 00:57:48,006 --> 00:57:49,632 - He used to be an umpire, you know? 1395 00:57:49,716 --> 00:57:51,718 - I remember asking Willie about this. 1396 00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:55,555 There are no Black people on any of these sitcoms, 1397 00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:57,765 but Willie Mays would just show up 1398 00:57:57,849 --> 00:58:00,018 as if that was a natural course of things. 1399 00:58:00,101 --> 00:58:04,189 So here's Donna Reed having lunch with a white lady, 1400 00:58:04,272 --> 00:58:05,899 and all of a sudden, Willie Mays shows up. 1401 00:58:05,982 --> 00:58:08,526 - Oh, wait till I tell the doctor 1402 00:58:08,610 --> 00:58:11,571 that I met little ol' Say Hey. 1403 00:58:11,654 --> 00:58:14,574 - The incongruity of the scene was apparently lost 1404 00:58:14,657 --> 00:58:18,536 on most viewers, and then he walked away with the check. 1405 00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:21,539 - I did "The Tonight Show," "What's My Line?" 1406 00:58:21,623 --> 00:58:22,832 "Ed Sullivan." 1407 00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,542 - What's the greatest streak you've ever had in baseball, 1408 00:58:24,626 --> 00:58:26,711 would you say? - Well, my--I have two. 1409 00:58:26,794 --> 00:58:29,923 I--my greatest in baseball was last week 1410 00:58:30,006 --> 00:58:34,427 when I hit my 512 home runs, enough to break Mel Ott. 1411 00:58:34,510 --> 00:58:36,221 [applause] 1412 00:58:36,304 --> 00:58:40,099 - Just a couple of days before his birthday in 1966, 1413 00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:43,102 Willie Mays hit number 512. 1414 00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:45,772 He broke Mel Ott's National League record 1415 00:58:45,855 --> 00:58:49,025 and became the number one home run slugger 1416 00:58:49,108 --> 00:58:50,735 in National League history. 1417 00:58:50,818 --> 00:58:52,237 Giants were in New York. 1418 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,280 "The Ed Sullivan Show" was the big national show 1419 00:58:54,364 --> 00:58:56,241 on Sunday nights that was live. 1420 00:58:56,324 --> 00:58:58,910 His fame has gone coast-to-coast by that time. 1421 00:58:58,993 --> 00:59:01,746 [wind whistling] 1422 00:59:01,829 --> 00:59:04,749 [soft vocalizing] 1423 00:59:04,832 --> 00:59:07,210 - Willie Mays lives alone behind miles 1424 00:59:07,293 --> 00:59:08,628 of drawn curtains, 1425 00:59:08,711 --> 00:59:12,799 searching for whatever privacy there is off the field, 1426 00:59:12,882 --> 00:59:15,802 that quiet time alone. 1427 00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:19,847 The life of a celebrity is not always ideal. 1428 00:59:19,931 --> 00:59:22,976 You have to pay a price that quite often is greater than 1429 00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:27,438 or as great as the cheers and plaudits and the wealth. 1430 00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:33,403 - So San Francisco was not like the center of Black folk 1431 00:59:33,486 --> 00:59:36,239 because it was not as social. 1432 00:59:36,322 --> 00:59:39,784 There was no such thing as a Black Harlem 1433 00:59:39,867 --> 00:59:41,786 in the Bay Area and in the city. 1434 00:59:41,869 --> 00:59:45,540 At some point, Margherite and Willie Mays, 1435 00:59:45,623 --> 00:59:47,542 they got divorced. 1436 00:59:47,625 --> 00:59:49,502 [smooth jazz music] 1437 00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:53,256 Willie Mays is not a social butterfly. 1438 00:59:53,339 --> 00:59:56,301 Even today, that's who Willie Mays is. 1439 00:59:56,384 --> 01:00:00,722 He was never a player, a street player. 1440 01:00:00,805 --> 01:00:02,515 He was a baseball player. 1441 01:00:02,598 --> 01:00:04,851 But being Willie Mays, you know, Willie Mays was-- 1442 01:00:04,934 --> 01:00:06,394 he's always with it. 1443 01:00:06,477 --> 01:00:09,105 - Willie home, decorated all in gold and white, 1444 01:00:09,188 --> 01:00:12,817 is high on a hill overlooking the famous Golden Gate Bridge. 1445 01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:15,361 He leads the gracious life of a superstar 1446 01:00:15,445 --> 01:00:17,655 in these luxury surroundings. 1447 01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:20,408 - Yeah, that was the best house to be a kid in. 1448 01:00:20,491 --> 01:00:22,452 He cut a hole in the living room floor 1449 01:00:22,535 --> 01:00:24,787 and put, like, a spiral staircase 1450 01:00:24,871 --> 01:00:28,666 down to the garage, so it was like the Batcave. 1451 01:00:28,750 --> 01:00:30,001 [engine turns over] 1452 01:00:30,084 --> 01:00:32,128 - The gold clock says 10:15 1453 01:00:32,211 --> 01:00:33,338 and time to be going to the park 1454 01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:35,298 to play Los Angeles again. 1455 01:00:35,381 --> 01:00:37,383 Willie, after a night game and a late meal, 1456 01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:39,052 gets home past midnight, 1457 01:00:39,135 --> 01:00:41,220 so there's very little time to relax. 1458 01:00:41,304 --> 01:00:44,932 The games just keep coming, night and day. 1459 01:00:45,016 --> 01:00:46,434 - The fans have been very good to me. 1460 01:00:46,517 --> 01:00:48,227 They've been great, and they always been coming in, 1461 01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:50,563 but I don't worry about the grown people too much. 1462 01:00:50,646 --> 01:00:52,648 I worry more about the kids. 1463 01:00:52,732 --> 01:00:53,649 - I'm Mike Murphy. 1464 01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:55,526 I've been with the Giants for 63 years. 1465 01:00:55,610 --> 01:00:57,028 I started as a bat boy. 1466 01:00:57,111 --> 01:00:58,738 If you needed something, you go see Willie. 1467 01:00:58,821 --> 01:01:00,490 He took care of me when I was a kid. 1468 01:01:00,573 --> 01:01:02,325 He'd give us money to go eat lunch 1469 01:01:02,408 --> 01:01:03,493 or "Here, kids, here. 1470 01:01:03,576 --> 01:01:05,203 Here's 20 bucks. Go eat lunch." 1471 01:01:05,286 --> 01:01:07,121 20 bucks in the '50s was a lot of money. 1472 01:01:07,205 --> 01:01:08,373 He'd never refuse anybody. 1473 01:01:08,456 --> 01:01:11,084 And, you know, kids go up to him and, you know, 1474 01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:14,253 ask him for autographs and everything. 1475 01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:15,546 - When he arrives at Candlestick, 1476 01:01:15,630 --> 01:01:17,298 the kids are there to greet him. 1477 01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:18,383 [kids cheering] And beyond the gate, 1478 01:01:18,466 --> 01:01:20,593 his quiet, private hours are over. 1479 01:01:20,676 --> 01:01:23,429 - I bet you every one of those kids got an autograph, 1480 01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:26,349 baseball, or photograph from him 1481 01:01:26,432 --> 01:01:29,394 because that's who Willie Mays really was. 1482 01:01:29,477 --> 01:01:32,730 And that made him an even bigger star. 1483 01:01:32,814 --> 01:01:36,567 He surpassed the white superstars. 1484 01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:38,194 - He comes from a family 1485 01:01:38,277 --> 01:01:41,739 and a place where everybody helps everybody. 1486 01:01:41,823 --> 01:01:43,574 I guess he's paying it forward. 1487 01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:45,410 He's seeing people are helping me. 1488 01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:47,912 I need to help people. 1489 01:01:47,995 --> 01:01:49,580 - Willie is in the prime of his career 1490 01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:51,833 with the San Francisco Giants. 1491 01:01:51,916 --> 01:01:55,086 So many people, not just ballplayers 1492 01:01:55,169 --> 01:01:56,170 or even athletes, 1493 01:01:56,254 --> 01:01:58,339 people who grew up in that area 1494 01:01:58,423 --> 01:02:02,093 in various walks of life speak with such reverence 1495 01:02:02,176 --> 01:02:03,428 about Willie Mays 1496 01:02:03,511 --> 01:02:06,097 and what he meant to their childhood 1497 01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:08,057 or their adolescence. 1498 01:02:08,141 --> 01:02:10,351 He was a gigantic star. 1499 01:02:10,435 --> 01:02:12,687 - Willie Mays played so frequently 1500 01:02:12,770 --> 01:02:14,272 and he was so durable 1501 01:02:14,355 --> 01:02:19,735 that from 1951 through 1962, he missed 21 games. 1502 01:02:19,819 --> 01:02:21,112 Giants lost 14 of 'em. 1503 01:02:21,195 --> 01:02:24,115 So no wonder managers wanted him to play every single day. 1504 01:02:24,198 --> 01:02:25,950 He played to an extent 1505 01:02:26,033 --> 01:02:29,620 that he was literally exhausted and passed out. 1506 01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:32,290 This happened three or four times in his career 1507 01:02:32,373 --> 01:02:34,625 and was rushed to the hospital 1508 01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:37,920 and would often spend a couple of nights at the hospital, 1509 01:02:38,004 --> 01:02:39,839 where he'd be rejuvenated, 1510 01:02:39,922 --> 01:02:41,716 and return to the field and keep playin'. 1511 01:02:41,799 --> 01:02:44,302 But in the '50s and '60s, that was Willie Mays. 1512 01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:49,015 He did not wanna stop until he literally passed out. 1513 01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:52,852 - I think the era of baseball at that time was, 1514 01:02:52,935 --> 01:02:54,187 you don't get sick, you don't get hurt, 1515 01:02:54,270 --> 01:02:55,646 you don't get tired. 1516 01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:56,856 Black players don't get that. 1517 01:02:56,939 --> 01:02:58,524 That we play every day. 1518 01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,818 I learned that from those guys. 1519 01:03:00,902 --> 01:03:03,988 That was the Mays era and start of my era. 1520 01:03:04,071 --> 01:03:06,365 The easy jobs in the front office 1521 01:03:06,449 --> 01:03:08,326 that paid six figures, 1522 01:03:08,409 --> 01:03:10,495 Black players don't get those kind of jobs. 1523 01:03:10,578 --> 01:03:12,747 Those are for the white players. 1524 01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:15,374 - We knew what the situation was 1525 01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:17,585 because by 1968, 1526 01:03:17,668 --> 01:03:21,172 the masses of Blacks had grown tired 1527 01:03:21,255 --> 01:03:24,342 and impatient with litigation and legislation 1528 01:03:24,425 --> 01:03:25,593 and gradualism. 1529 01:03:25,676 --> 01:03:29,222 They began to struggle for dignity and respect. 1530 01:03:29,305 --> 01:03:30,932 We're gonna do what we're going to do 1531 01:03:31,015 --> 01:03:32,225 regardless whether the white folks believe us 1532 01:03:32,308 --> 01:03:33,726 or not. You see what I'm saying? 1533 01:03:33,809 --> 01:03:35,019 - And that's boycott? 1534 01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:36,479 - I am saying that we are going to do 1535 01:03:36,562 --> 01:03:37,688 what is in the interest of Black people, 1536 01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:39,106 whatever it is. 1537 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:43,027 That's when the athletes in the mid-late 1960s decided 1538 01:03:43,110 --> 01:03:47,240 we've got to make a clean, hard break with our fathers. 1539 01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:49,867 Not just Willie Mays, 1540 01:03:49,951 --> 01:03:52,537 but that whole era of athletes 1541 01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:55,498 who found it necessary and imperative 1542 01:03:55,581 --> 01:03:58,543 to simply shut up and play. 1543 01:03:58,626 --> 01:04:02,004 And you had Jim Brown, Muhammad Ali, 1544 01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:03,381 and Bill Russell. 1545 01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:04,882 You had Arthur Ashe. 1546 01:04:04,966 --> 01:04:07,593 You Tommie Smith and John Carlos, 1547 01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:08,928 who took it international. 1548 01:04:09,011 --> 01:04:13,266 These athletes were saying, "We're not just commodities 1549 01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:15,434 "for your entertainment and pleasure. 1550 01:04:15,518 --> 01:04:19,105 "We are full, complete, and total human beings, 1551 01:04:19,188 --> 01:04:21,566 and we demand to be treated as such." 1552 01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:23,776 Said that on a international stage 1553 01:04:23,859 --> 01:04:27,905 12 years after Jackie Robinson had retired. 1554 01:04:27,989 --> 01:04:29,574 He made the statement, 1555 01:04:29,657 --> 01:04:31,325 "I never had it made 1556 01:04:31,409 --> 01:04:33,911 "because I realize I'm a Black man 1557 01:04:33,995 --> 01:04:36,497 in a racist white society." 1558 01:04:36,581 --> 01:04:38,666 Willie didn't want any part of that. 1559 01:04:38,749 --> 01:04:43,129 And this is where he actually drew criticism 1560 01:04:43,212 --> 01:04:44,297 from Jackie Robinson. 1561 01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:46,674 [somber music] 1562 01:04:46,757 --> 01:04:47,633 - "Willie's personable 1563 01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:48,676 "and has great talent, 1564 01:04:48,759 --> 01:04:50,428 "but he's never matured. 1565 01:04:50,511 --> 01:04:52,305 "He continues to ignore the most important issue 1566 01:04:52,388 --> 01:04:53,598 "of our time. 1567 01:04:53,681 --> 01:04:55,016 "He's never had any decent guidance 1568 01:04:55,099 --> 01:04:56,851 "in these matters and probably keeps looking 1569 01:04:56,934 --> 01:04:59,645 "only to his security as a great star. 1570 01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,647 "It's a damn shame he's never taken part. 1571 01:05:01,731 --> 01:05:03,608 "He doesn't realize he wouldn't be where he is today 1572 01:05:03,691 --> 01:05:05,985 "without the battles that others have fought. 1573 01:05:06,068 --> 01:05:07,778 "He thinks it's not his concern, 1574 01:05:07,862 --> 01:05:09,363 "but it is. 1575 01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:11,449 Jackie Robinson." 1576 01:05:11,532 --> 01:05:13,284 - Jackie ripped him. 1577 01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:15,119 He said, "Wouldn't it be wonderful 1578 01:05:15,202 --> 01:05:18,289 "if this young superstar could tell us 1579 01:05:18,372 --> 01:05:20,958 "about leaving Birmingham, 1580 01:05:21,042 --> 01:05:23,836 "and being denied at the house in San Francisco, 1581 01:05:23,919 --> 01:05:25,838 and overcoming it all?" 1582 01:05:25,921 --> 01:05:27,381 - I think that's totally unfair 1583 01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,175 'cause Willie's always been outspoken. 1584 01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:30,593 It's just that Willie saw things 1585 01:05:30,676 --> 01:05:34,513 a little bit more calmer, I guess you can say. 1586 01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:36,015 - Willie's father always told him, 1587 01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,184 "Don't create chaos. Don't pop off. 1588 01:05:38,267 --> 01:05:39,560 Don't say too much." 1589 01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:41,187 Just put your head down, run the bases, 1590 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:42,688 and play the game right. 1591 01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:45,816 And Willie took that to heart. 1592 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:47,985 - Some marched and protested. 1593 01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:50,905 Some won gold medals in the World Series. 1594 01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:52,657 It's about humanizing us. 1595 01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:54,492 That's what happened in the '60s. 1596 01:05:54,575 --> 01:05:57,495 It's, these people made it impossible 1597 01:05:57,578 --> 01:06:01,499 for us to be dismissed, ignored. 1598 01:06:01,582 --> 01:06:03,334 They brought the light. 1599 01:06:03,417 --> 01:06:07,588 - "Different people do things in different ways. 1600 01:06:07,672 --> 01:06:10,049 "I can, for instance, go out and picket. 1601 01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:13,010 "I can't stand on a soapbox and preach. 1602 01:06:13,094 --> 01:06:15,554 "That simply isn't my nature. 1603 01:06:15,638 --> 01:06:17,598 "People like Mr. King and Mr. Wilkins 1604 01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:19,475 "are better equipped than I am. 1605 01:06:19,558 --> 01:06:21,394 "But it's not true what Robinson said about 1606 01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:24,021 "my not doing anything for race relationships. 1607 01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,856 "I've worked for the Job Corps, 1608 01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:27,358 "and I don't know how many kid's groups 1609 01:06:27,441 --> 01:06:30,528 "I've addressed and will continue to address. 1610 01:06:30,611 --> 01:06:33,572 "In my own way, I believe I'm helping. 1611 01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:35,866 "You see, I've been doing things a long time 1612 01:06:35,950 --> 01:06:37,868 "along this line, but I want no credit. 1613 01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:40,538 "Everyone must do his own job in his own way, 1614 01:06:40,621 --> 01:06:42,957 "and in my heart, my way is just as important 1615 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,209 "as Jackie Robinson's way. 1616 01:06:45,292 --> 01:06:48,170 "I believe understanding is the important thing. 1617 01:06:48,254 --> 01:06:50,256 "In my talks to kids, I've tried my best 1618 01:06:50,339 --> 01:06:52,383 "to get that message across. 1619 01:06:52,466 --> 01:06:55,177 "It makes no difference whether you are Black or white 1620 01:06:55,261 --> 01:06:57,096 "because we are all God's children 1621 01:06:57,179 --> 01:06:59,432 "fighting for the same cause. 1622 01:06:59,515 --> 01:07:01,434 "Let's talk about progress for a while. 1623 01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:03,936 "Just look around out there in the clubhouse. 1624 01:07:04,019 --> 01:07:05,771 "There are an awful lot of southern boys 1625 01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:09,358 "on this team, yet we live and play together in harmony. 1626 01:07:09,442 --> 01:07:12,570 "It was not possible 15, 16 years ago. 1627 01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:14,613 "Today's kids don't have the hardships 1628 01:07:14,697 --> 01:07:15,948 "Jackie and I had, 1629 01:07:16,031 --> 01:07:18,159 "and they realize and appreciate it. 1630 01:07:18,242 --> 01:07:21,287 "Today, for instance, we play as many as five or six Negroes 1631 01:07:21,370 --> 01:07:23,539 "at the same time on our ball club. 1632 01:07:23,622 --> 01:07:25,583 "And once in Atlanta, we had eight or nine in there 1633 01:07:25,666 --> 01:07:29,128 "at the same time, and Atlanta is a Southern town. 1634 01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:31,130 Willie Mays." 1635 01:07:31,213 --> 01:07:32,631 - Harry Edwards' famous book, 1636 01:07:32,715 --> 01:07:34,258 "The Revolt of the Black Athlete," 1637 01:07:34,341 --> 01:07:36,761 that's something particular to the '60s. 1638 01:07:36,844 --> 01:07:38,137 Willie came along 1639 01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:41,307 before anybody knew who Cassius Clay was. 1640 01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:45,102 So I wanna judge Willie Mays as Willie Mays. 1641 01:07:45,186 --> 01:07:46,896 - Willie's always been outspoken. 1642 01:07:46,979 --> 01:07:49,064 It's just that those were the gentlemen 1643 01:07:49,148 --> 01:07:50,983 that were picked at that time, 1644 01:07:51,066 --> 01:07:54,487 as well as Martin Luther King was our representation 1645 01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:57,823 of freedom for Blacks at the time. 1646 01:07:57,907 --> 01:07:59,950 Willie just wasn't on that panel. 1647 01:08:00,034 --> 01:08:02,912 Doesn't necessarily mean Willie wasn't outspoken 1648 01:08:02,995 --> 01:08:04,663 for what he believed in. 1649 01:08:04,747 --> 01:08:06,457 He believed in what they were saying, 1650 01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:08,459 and maybe Willie at that time felt 1651 01:08:08,542 --> 01:08:10,002 they were the right candidate for that. 1652 01:08:10,085 --> 01:08:12,671 - Well, it's almost unfair to suggest 1653 01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:15,341 that Willie Mays should do anything 1654 01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:19,178 other than be the proficient professional 1655 01:08:19,261 --> 01:08:22,556 he needed to be as a baseball player. 1656 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:28,604 Black people have imposed upon them the dual responsibility 1657 01:08:28,687 --> 01:08:30,981 to not only represent all Black people, 1658 01:08:31,065 --> 01:08:34,485 but to make it comfortable for even some racists 1659 01:08:34,568 --> 01:08:37,655 to interact without ever accepting 1660 01:08:37,738 --> 01:08:39,657 the racist response, 1661 01:08:39,740 --> 01:08:42,326 you are okay, but the rest of you are not. 1662 01:08:42,409 --> 01:08:45,121 And that's kind of the way Willie Mays was treated. 1663 01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:48,332 He became "okay, but the rest of them not." 1664 01:08:48,415 --> 01:08:51,877 And to the extent that he could be helpful, 1665 01:08:51,961 --> 01:08:53,546 with the NAACP, 1666 01:08:53,629 --> 01:08:55,714 with the Council for Civic Unity, 1667 01:08:55,798 --> 01:08:57,842 with all the other organizations, 1668 01:08:57,925 --> 01:09:00,719 and with individuals like Willie Brown, 1669 01:09:00,803 --> 01:09:03,722 the upcoming lawyer, politician, 1670 01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:05,057 Willie Mays was helpful. 1671 01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:08,727 And we all are not gonna be Muhammad Ali. 1672 01:09:08,811 --> 01:09:11,146 - Willie did things for people behind the scenes, 1673 01:09:11,230 --> 01:09:13,691 in the dugout, in the clubhouse, at his home. 1674 01:09:13,774 --> 01:09:15,484 So I spoke with Joe Morgan, 1675 01:09:15,568 --> 01:09:19,363 Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Maury Wills. 1676 01:09:19,446 --> 01:09:22,575 All of 'em, to a man, said, "It's wrong to say 1677 01:09:22,658 --> 01:09:25,703 "that Willie didn't do enough because he was there for me. 1678 01:09:25,786 --> 01:09:27,121 "He was there for us. 1679 01:09:27,204 --> 01:09:28,873 "He opened the door for us. 1680 01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:32,418 And he did so much more than people give him credit for." 1681 01:09:32,501 --> 01:09:37,548 - I met Willie Mays in spring training in 1968. 1682 01:09:37,631 --> 01:09:39,925 And he came out of the Giants' dugout and he-- 1683 01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,927 "Where is this Reggie Jackson at? 1684 01:09:42,011 --> 01:09:45,097 "This Reggie Jackson kid, I wanna see this kid. 1685 01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:47,808 "Reggie Jackson, they tell me he's a great player. 1686 01:09:47,892 --> 01:09:50,603 "He's got a lot of power. 1687 01:09:50,686 --> 01:09:52,229 Where's this kid, Reggie Jackson?" 1688 01:09:52,313 --> 01:09:54,648 And I was the Arizona State kid. 1689 01:09:54,732 --> 01:09:56,567 He wanted to introduce himself to me, 1690 01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:59,570 and I was absolutely thrilled. 1691 01:09:59,653 --> 01:10:02,781 I learned so much from Willie. 1692 01:10:02,865 --> 01:10:05,242 - As Willie started getting up there in years, 1693 01:10:05,326 --> 01:10:07,411 every time there would be a young outfielder 1694 01:10:07,494 --> 01:10:09,121 who had promise, there was always talk 1695 01:10:09,204 --> 01:10:11,582 of him being the next Willie Mays. 1696 01:10:11,665 --> 01:10:12,875 Bobby Bonds, 1697 01:10:12,958 --> 01:10:15,169 that was the guy they really thought 1698 01:10:15,252 --> 01:10:17,463 could really be the next Willie Mays. 1699 01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:21,175 announcer: Bobby Bonds is off and running. 1700 01:10:21,258 --> 01:10:24,929 - He had tremendous speed, tremendous power. 1701 01:10:25,012 --> 01:10:26,472 Great base-stealer. 1702 01:10:26,555 --> 01:10:28,307 He could do it all. 1703 01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:29,683 announcer: Bonds gives the Giants one 1704 01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:32,311 of the best defensive outfields ever assembled. 1705 01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:35,898 And he can do the impossible. 1706 01:10:39,401 --> 01:10:41,320 - Willie had a locker, and nobody dressed next 1707 01:10:41,403 --> 01:10:43,989 to Willie but only special people that he wanted. 1708 01:10:44,073 --> 01:10:45,783 So we put Bobby next to Willie, 1709 01:10:45,866 --> 01:10:47,910 and that's how they became best of friends. 1710 01:10:47,993 --> 01:10:49,870 - Willie took him under his wing. 1711 01:10:51,205 --> 01:10:52,957 - I grew up with Bobby. 1712 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,961 The Bonds' were--were the heroes in our town. 1713 01:10:57,044 --> 01:10:59,338 And I was always with him and my dad 1714 01:10:59,421 --> 01:11:01,715 'cause my dad was always Bobby's coach. 1715 01:11:01,799 --> 01:11:03,050 Bobby was the man. 1716 01:11:03,133 --> 01:11:05,302 He introduced me to Willie Mays. 1717 01:11:05,386 --> 01:11:07,179 I told him I liked his glove that he had on. 1718 01:11:07,262 --> 01:11:08,347 It was a kangaroo glove, 1719 01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:10,849 and Willie took it off his hand and gave it to me. 1720 01:11:10,933 --> 01:11:15,312 And so I felt a closeness to, you know, to Willie 1721 01:11:15,396 --> 01:11:17,606 and definitely always a closeness, 1722 01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:19,191 you know, to Bobby. 1723 01:11:19,274 --> 01:11:20,818 And, you know, Willie helped Bobby. 1724 01:11:20,901 --> 01:11:23,445 You know, he loved Bobby. 1725 01:11:23,529 --> 01:11:26,490 - My dad loved Willie more than anything. 1726 01:11:26,573 --> 01:11:28,492 Everything was Willie this in our house, Willie that. 1727 01:11:28,575 --> 01:11:29,660 Willie this, Willie this. 1728 01:11:29,743 --> 01:11:31,036 If you wanna hit, you gotta hit like Willie. 1729 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,287 You know, throw your hands like this 1730 01:11:32,371 --> 01:11:33,956 and everything like that, and-- 1731 01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:36,041 'cause my dad idolized Willie Mays. 1732 01:11:36,125 --> 01:11:39,878 'Cause Willie took all the Black athletes 1733 01:11:39,962 --> 01:11:43,424 at that time, and he held them on his shoulder. 1734 01:11:43,507 --> 01:11:45,718 And we as kids remember this forever. 1735 01:11:45,801 --> 01:11:48,679 I was one of those kids that, I mean, 1736 01:11:48,762 --> 01:11:50,431 I was obsessed with Willie. 1737 01:11:50,514 --> 01:11:52,224 I would put Willie-- I'm left handed, 1738 01:11:52,307 --> 01:11:55,561 and I would put Willie's glove on backwards 1739 01:11:55,644 --> 01:11:57,730 just so I could wear his glove. 1740 01:11:57,813 --> 01:11:59,356 But it was my parents, you know, 1741 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,025 that sat there and told Willie, you know, 1742 01:12:01,108 --> 01:12:02,026 "You're gonna take this kid." 1743 01:12:02,109 --> 01:12:04,069 'Cause I wouldn't wanna leave the locker room. 1744 01:12:04,153 --> 01:12:07,281 I didn't wanna--I followed him like a little puppy dog. 1745 01:12:07,364 --> 01:12:09,867 And I guess my dad kind of got fed up 1746 01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:11,285 because I remember being on the field 1747 01:12:11,368 --> 01:12:12,703 when I was five and six years old, 1748 01:12:12,786 --> 01:12:16,123 and I guess my dad kind of got fed of me just screamin' 1749 01:12:16,206 --> 01:12:18,333 "I wanna be with Willie," crying, "Wanna be with Willie." 1750 01:12:18,417 --> 01:12:20,252 And Willie just finally just said, "Gimme that boy," 1751 01:12:20,335 --> 01:12:21,253 you know? Like, you know? 1752 01:12:21,336 --> 01:12:23,422 And he took me out on the field. 1753 01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:26,717 - Barry Bonds grew up not only in a baseball household, 1754 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,136 but as part of baseball royalty. 1755 01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:31,930 His mom and dad, Pat and Bobby Bonds, 1756 01:12:32,014 --> 01:12:35,350 asked Willie Mays to be the godfather for Barry. 1757 01:12:35,434 --> 01:12:38,187 - Barry would climb all over his locker, get in his locker. 1758 01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:39,605 And he would say, "What are you doing in there? 1759 01:12:39,688 --> 01:12:40,606 What are you doing in there?" 1760 01:12:40,689 --> 01:12:42,608 So they used to grab his gloves, and, oh... 1761 01:12:42,691 --> 01:12:44,234 [laughing] He'd get mad if you grabbed his gloves. 1762 01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:48,238 - That little kid, five years old, 1763 01:12:48,322 --> 01:12:50,407 I remember saying to him, 1764 01:12:50,491 --> 01:12:52,159 "Boy, get out of my locker." 1765 01:12:52,242 --> 01:12:53,243 [laughter] 1766 01:12:53,327 --> 01:12:55,162 - I'll tell you one thing about Say Hey, boy, 1767 01:12:55,245 --> 01:12:57,372 'cause you did-- you brought up one catch, 1768 01:12:57,456 --> 01:12:59,416 and then there's another catch with him and my father 1769 01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:01,627 in San Francisco, okay? 1770 01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:04,171 I was mad at my dad because he hurt my godfather, 1771 01:13:04,254 --> 01:13:05,172 like really mad. 1772 01:13:05,255 --> 01:13:07,591 [cheers and applause] 1773 01:13:07,674 --> 01:13:09,384 - Game of the week. 1774 01:13:09,468 --> 01:13:12,805 Bobby Tolan, Cincinnati Reds, hits a monster fly ball 1775 01:13:12,888 --> 01:13:15,140 to right center, so the ball goes up. 1776 01:13:15,224 --> 01:13:16,934 Bobby jumps up, 1777 01:13:17,017 --> 01:13:19,937 but Willie comes out of nowhere and jumps over him, 1778 01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:22,189 makes the catch, climbs the cyclone fence, 1779 01:13:22,272 --> 01:13:23,148 comes down with it. 1780 01:13:23,232 --> 01:13:24,233 They collide, 1781 01:13:24,316 --> 01:13:26,902 and Bobby is actually looking at the ball 1782 01:13:26,985 --> 01:13:30,364 and holds the ball up for the umpire to see. 1783 01:13:30,447 --> 01:13:32,825 - Willie came out of nowhere, okay? 1784 01:13:32,908 --> 01:13:34,785 'Cause the ball was hitting right center, 1785 01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:37,788 and I--I was a kid and I was at that game. 1786 01:13:37,871 --> 01:13:42,167 My dad's knee hit Willie in his chest a little bit. 1787 01:13:42,251 --> 01:13:44,128 And I was so mad at my dad 1788 01:13:44,211 --> 01:13:45,754 because Willie was on that ground forever. 1789 01:13:45,838 --> 01:13:46,839 I didn't want to talk to my dad for hours. 1790 01:13:46,922 --> 01:13:48,048 Like, "I don't like you. 1791 01:13:48,132 --> 01:13:49,883 You hurt my-- you hurt my Willie." 1792 01:13:49,967 --> 01:13:51,510 And Willie's on the ground and the ball's sittin' 1793 01:13:51,593 --> 01:13:52,886 in his glove. 1794 01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:54,721 Without the glove falling off 1795 01:13:54,805 --> 01:13:56,306 or the ball falling out of your glove, 1796 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:57,933 and then him hanging on the ball, 1797 01:13:58,016 --> 01:13:59,143 to have not only retained the ball 1798 01:13:59,226 --> 01:14:00,853 and be knocked out, 1799 01:14:00,936 --> 01:14:03,313 that, to me, was the best catch I've ever seen. 1800 01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,694 - Two things happened at that time. 1801 01:14:08,777 --> 01:14:12,865 I got married, and I got traded to the Mets. 1802 01:14:14,241 --> 01:14:16,827 - The Giants, meanwhile, were having a tough time, 1803 01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:18,620 and business was not going well. 1804 01:14:18,704 --> 01:14:20,998 I mean, the Stoneham family was literally going bankrupt. 1805 01:14:21,081 --> 01:14:24,042 The Giants used to be the second highest-drawing team 1806 01:14:24,126 --> 01:14:25,878 in the National League behind the Dodgers, 1807 01:14:25,961 --> 01:14:27,880 and most of those years, second best-drawing team 1808 01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:29,882 in all of Major League Baseball. 1809 01:14:29,965 --> 01:14:31,341 And they would a million six. 1810 01:14:31,425 --> 01:14:32,885 One year they got a million seven, 1811 01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:33,927 a million five. 1812 01:14:34,011 --> 01:14:37,222 And '68, they A's came out from Kansas City. 1813 01:14:37,306 --> 01:14:39,933 And both teams drew 800,000. 1814 01:14:40,017 --> 01:14:41,894 And really, where did they expect all these extra fans 1815 01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:43,103 were gonna come from? 1816 01:14:43,187 --> 01:14:45,022 Because the Giants had been the only team? 1817 01:14:45,105 --> 01:14:46,481 We used to go from the East Bay 1818 01:14:46,565 --> 01:14:48,192 over to Candlestick. 1819 01:14:48,275 --> 01:14:49,651 Well, now we didn't have to do that anymore. 1820 01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:50,986 We could just go to the Coliseum. 1821 01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:53,197 We didn't have to go across the bridge anymore. 1822 01:14:54,781 --> 01:14:57,409 It was 1972, and they started trading some 1823 01:14:57,492 --> 01:14:59,494 of their higher-priced players. 1824 01:14:59,578 --> 01:15:02,539 Willie Mays would regularly have the highest salary 1825 01:15:02,623 --> 01:15:03,582 in the game. 1826 01:15:03,665 --> 01:15:05,959 That's when he got traded. 1827 01:15:06,043 --> 01:15:08,253 I think it killed Horace Stoneham to do it. 1828 01:15:08,337 --> 01:15:10,547 But they just couldn't afford it. 1829 01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:12,090 - Mr. Stoneham told me, he says, 1830 01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:14,593 "Willie, I don't have enough money to pay you." 1831 01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:15,928 I said, "What do you mean, sir?" 1832 01:15:16,011 --> 01:15:18,472 He says, "I gotta get you back to New York, 1833 01:15:18,555 --> 01:15:20,098 "where you can still make, you know, 1834 01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:21,183 quite a bit of money." 1835 01:15:21,266 --> 01:15:24,436 So I says, "I don't think I wanna go. 1836 01:15:24,519 --> 01:15:26,438 I think I better go home." 1837 01:15:26,521 --> 01:15:27,731 And he said, "No, no, no. 1838 01:15:27,814 --> 01:15:31,401 Mrs. Joan Payson's the owner of the Mets." 1839 01:15:31,485 --> 01:15:33,153 She already called." 1840 01:15:33,237 --> 01:15:35,697 And she says, "We got you." 1841 01:15:35,781 --> 01:15:37,241 And I said, "I gotta go home." 1842 01:15:37,324 --> 01:15:38,408 "No, no, no. 1843 01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:39,576 "Your wife is already here. 1844 01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:41,370 "She's been here for two days. 1845 01:15:41,453 --> 01:15:43,956 She said, "Write your own contract." 1846 01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:47,084 And I said, "Whoa, I got her now." 1847 01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:49,545 So I said, "I, Willie Mays, would like 1848 01:15:49,628 --> 01:15:51,421 "to do what I wanna do, 1849 01:15:51,505 --> 01:15:54,800 when I wanna do it at any time." 1850 01:15:54,883 --> 01:15:56,468 And she said, "Is that what you want?" 1851 01:15:56,551 --> 01:15:58,053 "Yes, ma'am." 1852 01:15:58,136 --> 01:16:00,472 "You got it." And I said, "Oh, my God. 1853 01:16:00,555 --> 01:16:03,475 She gave me everything that I asked for." 1854 01:16:03,558 --> 01:16:04,977 I can't go nowhere. 1855 01:16:16,697 --> 01:16:18,573 - When I got back to New York, 1856 01:16:18,657 --> 01:16:22,286 it was just like I never left. 1857 01:16:22,369 --> 01:16:25,289 [light funk music] 1858 01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:26,373 - What a moment. 1859 01:16:26,456 --> 01:16:28,625 This is a sensation in New York. 1860 01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:30,836 - The feeling that I had when I came back 1861 01:16:30,919 --> 01:16:34,381 was-- it just was no expressing it. 1862 01:16:34,464 --> 01:16:38,343 It was just a feeling that a town wanted a fella 1863 01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,388 to come back, and I think they showed that 1864 01:16:41,471 --> 01:16:43,140 by, you know, the way they treat me 1865 01:16:43,223 --> 01:16:45,017 when I first came back, and it's just terrific 1866 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:46,518 just to be back. 1867 01:16:46,601 --> 01:16:49,521 - The Giants went to New York just a few days later, 1868 01:16:49,604 --> 01:16:51,148 and they play the Mets. 1869 01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:54,359 And Willie hits a home run against the Giants, 1870 01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:56,486 and he beats the Giants. 1871 01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:58,363 announcer: And it's well back in left field. 1872 01:16:58,447 --> 01:16:59,990 It could be. It's going, going. 1873 01:17:00,073 --> 01:17:01,825 And it is a home run! 1874 01:17:01,908 --> 01:17:05,120 Number 647 in his career. 1875 01:17:05,203 --> 01:17:08,999 [cheers and applause] 1876 01:17:09,082 --> 01:17:12,169 - The way I felt that the players on the Giants felt 1877 01:17:12,252 --> 01:17:13,378 that they had to get beat, 1878 01:17:13,462 --> 01:17:14,588 they'd rather for me to beat 'em. 1879 01:17:14,671 --> 01:17:16,298 And this is the way I feel all, you know, 1880 01:17:16,381 --> 01:17:17,883 going around the bases, you know. 1881 01:17:17,966 --> 01:17:20,135 ♪ ♪ 1882 01:17:20,218 --> 01:17:21,553 - It's beautiful. - Unreal. 1883 01:17:21,636 --> 01:17:23,055 - I think it's wonderful. 1884 01:17:23,138 --> 01:17:25,057 - It's great. - It's fantastic. 1885 01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:26,641 - I was always a Willie Mays fan. 1886 01:17:26,725 --> 01:17:30,187 - [speaking Spanish] 1887 01:17:30,270 --> 01:17:31,938 - It's the best thing that ever happened to me. 1888 01:17:33,607 --> 01:17:36,068 - So May of '72, 1889 01:17:36,151 --> 01:17:39,029 Joan Payson has the Mets, brings him home. 1890 01:17:39,112 --> 01:17:41,990 He was a key player on that team in '72. 1891 01:17:42,074 --> 01:17:43,909 And he was thinking, "Well, that's it for me. 1892 01:17:43,992 --> 01:17:46,328 I'm okay if this is my last year." 1893 01:17:46,411 --> 01:17:48,038 But Joan Payson wouldn't allow it. 1894 01:17:48,121 --> 01:17:50,457 She says, "One more year, Willie, one more year." 1895 01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:52,000 So Willie agreed to play one more year. 1896 01:17:52,084 --> 01:17:54,628 [cheers and applause] 1897 01:17:54,711 --> 01:17:59,257 Those Mets came outta nowhere to win their division in '73. 1898 01:17:59,341 --> 01:18:00,300 announcer: It's over! 1899 01:18:00,384 --> 01:18:02,094 The New York Mets have won the pennant! 1900 01:18:02,177 --> 01:18:04,179 The New York Mets have won the pennant! 1901 01:18:04,262 --> 01:18:05,847 The New York Mets have won the pennant, 1902 01:18:05,931 --> 01:18:08,767 and this is a wild scene! 1903 01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:10,602 - And find themselves in the World Series 1904 01:18:10,685 --> 01:18:12,104 against the Oakland A's. 1905 01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:15,107 Game one of the '73 World Series is in Oakland. 1906 01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:16,900 announcer: Batting third and playing center field, 1907 01:18:16,983 --> 01:18:19,861 number 24, Willie Mays. 1908 01:18:19,945 --> 01:18:22,906 [cheers and applause] 1909 01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:25,242 Willie Mays never played at the Oakland Coliseum. 1910 01:18:25,325 --> 01:18:27,077 And he gets a standing ovation 1911 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,538 that might have been the longest of his career. 1912 01:18:29,621 --> 01:18:32,582 [cheers and applause] 1913 01:18:38,505 --> 01:18:41,883 But it's game two that everybody looks at. 1914 01:18:41,967 --> 01:18:44,719 Game two was at the Oakland Coliseum. 1915 01:18:44,803 --> 01:18:47,806 It started in the late afternoon. 1916 01:18:47,889 --> 01:18:49,975 - I played center field the same day. 1917 01:18:50,058 --> 01:18:52,978 I almost missed a ball in the sun off Jerry Grote. 1918 01:18:53,061 --> 01:18:54,896 The sun was horrible there that day. 1919 01:18:54,980 --> 01:18:57,983 And it's always bad in Oakland in October. 1920 01:18:58,066 --> 01:19:00,402 I don't know how they built the field that way, 1921 01:19:00,485 --> 01:19:03,363 but someone didn't have the foresight. 1922 01:19:03,447 --> 01:19:04,823 - The thing goes 13 innings. 1923 01:19:04,906 --> 01:19:07,742 It's the longest World Series on record through that season. 1924 01:19:07,826 --> 01:19:11,121 And Deron Johnson gets up for the A's 1925 01:19:11,204 --> 01:19:13,290 and hits a little blooper into center field. 1926 01:19:13,373 --> 01:19:16,376 And the ball gets by him and goes to the wall. 1927 01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:17,878 announcer: And it gets by him. 1928 01:19:17,961 --> 01:19:20,005 He lost his footing again. 1929 01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:22,132 Deron Johnson's in to second. 1930 01:19:22,215 --> 01:19:25,302 Willie Mays stumbling again as he did on the bases. 1931 01:19:25,385 --> 01:19:27,345 - So later in the game, Reggie hits a triple 1932 01:19:27,429 --> 01:19:30,015 that Willie lost in the sun as well. 1933 01:19:30,098 --> 01:19:33,018 [melancholic music] 1934 01:19:33,101 --> 01:19:34,394 ♪ ♪ 1935 01:19:34,478 --> 01:19:38,690 - This "Willie Mays stumbled around in center field 1936 01:19:38,773 --> 01:19:42,194 because he was old and couldn't play," no. 1937 01:19:42,277 --> 01:19:44,946 If he couldn't get to the ball, I'm okay. 1938 01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:47,365 But he didn't get to the ball and drop it. 1939 01:19:47,449 --> 01:19:49,784 He never did that. 1940 01:19:49,868 --> 01:19:51,745 Never. 1941 01:19:51,828 --> 01:19:55,832 That game is not an image of Willie Mays. 1942 01:19:55,916 --> 01:19:58,710 Willie--you can say Willie Mays was old 1943 01:19:58,793 --> 01:20:00,378 when he played his last game, 1944 01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:01,880 he got a base hit, 1945 01:20:01,963 --> 01:20:03,924 and he had trouble with the sun in center field 1946 01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:06,885 in the World Series. I got that. 1947 01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:10,096 But Willie Mays was flawless as a baseball player. 1948 01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:13,225 So if somebody wants to talk about his sun game, 1949 01:20:13,308 --> 01:20:14,726 you forget about the fact 1950 01:20:14,809 --> 01:20:18,146 that he got the go-ahead base hit to put them ahead 1951 01:20:18,230 --> 01:20:20,190 with a ground ball single up the middle. 1952 01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:24,027 - You'll see a picture that everybody points to. 1953 01:20:24,110 --> 01:20:27,697 - Bud Harrelson was called out at the plate by the umpire. 1954 01:20:27,781 --> 01:20:28,990 - Willie, the on-deck hitter, 1955 01:20:29,074 --> 01:20:31,952 was out there screamin' and yellin' at the umpire 1956 01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:33,495 saying, "You got this wrong, man." 1957 01:20:34,746 --> 01:20:37,040 - Because that's such a powerful photo, 1958 01:20:37,123 --> 01:20:39,543 you misread it if you don't have the context 1959 01:20:39,626 --> 01:20:43,463 to understand that he wasn't as good at 40 as he was at 20, 1960 01:20:43,547 --> 01:20:45,006 but it's like, no. 1961 01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:46,466 Not only is this dude good, 1962 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:49,469 this dude might be the best there ever was. 1963 01:20:49,553 --> 01:20:51,429 announcer: There was one very poignant pause 1964 01:20:51,513 --> 01:20:54,099 down the home stretch when Willie Mays announced 1965 01:20:54,182 --> 01:20:57,435 that 1973 would be his final season 1966 01:20:57,519 --> 01:20:59,104 as an active player. 1967 01:20:59,187 --> 01:21:01,523 ♪ ♪ 1968 01:21:01,606 --> 01:21:03,525 - I remember watching game seven, 1969 01:21:03,608 --> 01:21:06,236 and the Mets were down three runs 1970 01:21:06,319 --> 01:21:07,737 as they come up in the ninth. 1971 01:21:07,821 --> 01:21:10,240 And they get two men on base. 1972 01:21:10,323 --> 01:21:13,410 And I realize he's 42 years old and at the end of his career 1973 01:21:13,493 --> 01:21:14,494 and all the rest, 1974 01:21:14,578 --> 01:21:18,331 but I'm thinking, "Yogi, send Willie up. 1975 01:21:18,415 --> 01:21:20,292 "This is Willie Mays' last at-bat. 1976 01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:22,294 "He's already announced his retirement. 1977 01:21:22,377 --> 01:21:24,629 "Two out, tying run at the plate. 1978 01:21:24,713 --> 01:21:27,632 Send Willie Mays up." He didn't. 1979 01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,301 Knowles got Garland out. 1980 01:21:29,384 --> 01:21:30,802 Lost the game. 1981 01:21:30,885 --> 01:21:34,097 I asked Willie about that decades later. 1982 01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:36,474 He goes, "I was reaching for a bat. 1983 01:21:36,558 --> 01:21:38,059 "It was a perfect moment. 1984 01:21:38,143 --> 01:21:41,730 Even if I struck out, I wanted a chance." 1985 01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:46,276 - We should've won the World Series at that time 1986 01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:50,280 'cause we--we did a good job, I felt. 1987 01:21:50,363 --> 01:21:53,116 I think I played till 42. 1988 01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:54,784 A long time. 1989 01:21:54,868 --> 01:21:58,163 ♪ ♪ 1990 01:21:58,246 --> 01:22:00,498 announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Willie Mays. 1991 01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:03,627 [cheers and applause] 1992 01:22:09,841 --> 01:22:14,554 - I hope that with my farewell tonight 1993 01:22:14,638 --> 01:22:18,016 you would understand what I'm going through right now. 1994 01:22:18,099 --> 01:22:20,393 Something that I'd never feel 1995 01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:23,063 that I would ever quit baseball, 1996 01:22:23,146 --> 01:22:24,981 but as you know, it always come a time 1997 01:22:25,065 --> 01:22:27,317 for someone to get out. 1998 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,986 And I look at the kids over here, 1999 01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:31,696 the way they are playing 2000 01:22:31,780 --> 01:22:34,574 and the way they are fighting for themselves 2001 01:22:34,658 --> 01:22:36,660 tells me one thing. 2002 01:22:36,743 --> 01:22:39,829 Willie, say goodbye to America. 2003 01:22:39,913 --> 01:22:42,457 Thank you very much. 2004 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,502 [thunderous cheers and applause] 2005 01:22:45,585 --> 01:22:52,550 ♪ ♪ 2006 01:22:59,974 --> 01:23:01,685 Anybody who have seen me play know 2007 01:23:01,768 --> 01:23:03,895 that I love what I'm doing. 2008 01:23:03,978 --> 01:23:06,231 This doesn't mean that I'm getting out 2009 01:23:06,314 --> 01:23:08,024 of baseball because I'm hurt. 2010 01:23:08,108 --> 01:23:09,359 But I'm getting out of baseball 2011 01:23:09,442 --> 01:23:11,820 because I don't feel that seeing the way 2012 01:23:11,903 --> 01:23:13,697 that I was playing the last, oh, well, 2013 01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:14,864 I'd say the last couple years, 2014 01:23:14,948 --> 01:23:17,367 I didn't feel that the people of America 2015 01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:19,536 should look at a guy like myself 2016 01:23:19,619 --> 01:23:21,204 that loved the game of baseball 2017 01:23:21,287 --> 01:23:24,082 and being on the field and not being able to produce. 2018 01:23:24,165 --> 01:23:27,252 It's difficult right now to even, uh, 2019 01:23:27,335 --> 01:23:30,088 try to explain to you how much I love baseball 2020 01:23:30,171 --> 01:23:32,799 and how much baseball mean to me. 2021 01:23:32,882 --> 01:23:36,886 I think we had what you call a love affair. 2022 01:23:36,970 --> 01:23:39,931 I think the two together 2023 01:23:40,014 --> 01:23:43,351 for 22 years have been terrific. 2024 01:23:45,019 --> 01:23:47,230 - Fast-forward 20 years or so, 2025 01:23:47,313 --> 01:23:48,732 Willie was not working for the Giants. 2026 01:23:48,815 --> 01:23:49,858 Willie was out of baseball. 2027 01:23:49,941 --> 01:23:52,402 This is in late '92 2028 01:23:52,485 --> 01:23:54,863 when our group came together to buy the team. 2029 01:23:54,946 --> 01:23:58,575 And Peter Magowan and I went to Willie 2030 01:23:58,658 --> 01:24:02,620 the very first spring training that we had in early '93. 2031 01:24:02,704 --> 01:24:08,126 And we said, "Willie, you have to be part of this franchise. 2032 01:24:08,209 --> 01:24:11,713 And we want you to have a lifetime contract." 2033 01:24:13,715 --> 01:24:19,137 So it's 1992, and the best free agent 2034 01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:22,140 on the market is available for our first year 2035 01:24:22,223 --> 01:24:24,976 owning the franchise, 1993. 2036 01:24:25,059 --> 01:24:27,520 And how did we get to Barry Bonds? 2037 01:24:27,604 --> 01:24:29,481 Well, I don't know him. 2038 01:24:29,564 --> 01:24:32,108 But there's one person that could make the pitch: 2039 01:24:32,192 --> 01:24:33,568 Willie. 2040 01:24:33,651 --> 01:24:37,655 There was a call that was made by Willie to Barry. 2041 01:24:37,739 --> 01:24:42,285 And when the decision came for Barry 2042 01:24:42,368 --> 01:24:46,623 to determine where he was gonna play in 1993 2043 01:24:46,706 --> 01:24:51,461 and where he would play for the next 15 years, 2044 01:24:51,544 --> 01:24:53,963 he was very emotional and he called up. 2045 01:24:54,047 --> 01:24:55,507 And I remember being on the other end of the call 2046 01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:57,842 and saying, "Look, how can I not come 2047 01:24:57,926 --> 01:25:03,473 to the home of my father and my godfather, Willie?" 2048 01:25:03,556 --> 01:25:05,892 - I wanted to go home. 2049 01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:08,686 This is what I've always wanted my whole entire life. 2050 01:25:08,770 --> 01:25:11,272 And that was really, really important to me. 2051 01:25:11,356 --> 01:25:12,482 The most important thing in the world. 2052 01:25:12,565 --> 01:25:14,234 - The biggest deal in baseball history 2053 01:25:14,317 --> 01:25:15,318 finally went through today 2054 01:25:15,401 --> 01:25:16,820 as the San Francisco Giants signed 2055 01:25:16,903 --> 01:25:18,363 free agent outfielder Barry Bonds 2056 01:25:18,446 --> 01:25:22,367 to a six-year $43.75 million deal. 2057 01:25:22,450 --> 01:25:24,369 - And I wanna thank the San Francisco Giants 2058 01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:27,956 organization for talking to Willie for me 2059 01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:30,542 and giving me this opportunity 2060 01:25:30,625 --> 01:25:33,253 and especially Willie for allowing this to happen. 2061 01:25:33,336 --> 01:25:35,505 And Willie called me up. 2062 01:25:35,588 --> 01:25:37,173 And he sat there and he said, 2063 01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:39,717 "I would like for you to wear my number." 2064 01:25:39,801 --> 01:25:41,386 So I was so touched. 2065 01:25:41,469 --> 01:25:43,221 I was crying. I was like, "This is great. 2066 01:25:43,304 --> 01:25:44,222 This is great." 2067 01:25:44,305 --> 01:25:45,223 Peter was fine with it. 2068 01:25:45,306 --> 01:25:46,391 The Giants were fine with it. 2069 01:25:46,474 --> 01:25:48,226 But Major League Baseball shut it down. 2070 01:25:48,309 --> 01:25:49,519 They said that you can't do that 2071 01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:52,522 because if we start taking uniforms out of retirement, 2072 01:25:52,605 --> 01:25:54,190 then why are we retiring uniforms? 2073 01:25:54,274 --> 01:25:55,692 Which made perfect sense to me. 2074 01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:57,527 I was fine, and then Willie said, 2075 01:25:57,610 --> 01:26:00,029 "Why don't you honor your daddy 2076 01:26:00,113 --> 01:26:02,699 and wear number 25?" 2077 01:26:02,782 --> 01:26:05,535 - So I have the honor of presenting 2078 01:26:05,618 --> 01:26:08,621 my old number, the 25, 2079 01:26:08,705 --> 01:26:11,875 to my son, and a new San Francisco Giant, 2080 01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:13,418 Barry Bonds. 2081 01:26:13,501 --> 01:26:16,462 [cheers and applause] 2082 01:26:16,546 --> 01:26:18,756 - And tears flowed. 2083 01:26:19,173 --> 01:26:20,258 - It's like a boyhood dream 2084 01:26:20,341 --> 01:26:23,386 that comes true for me. 2085 01:26:23,469 --> 01:26:24,762 Um... 2086 01:26:24,846 --> 01:26:27,056 [soft sentimental music] 2087 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:29,225 And I'll never forget this 'cause we were on stage 2088 01:26:29,309 --> 01:26:31,185 and Peter Magowan and all the owners stood 2089 01:26:31,269 --> 01:26:33,771 and Willie's there, and he goes, "You ready." 2090 01:26:33,855 --> 01:26:36,733 That's when I knew I was a complete baseball player 2091 01:26:36,816 --> 01:26:39,277 is when I got that stamp from my godfather. 2092 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,531 He had an IQ so high he can see it. 2093 01:26:43,615 --> 01:26:46,075 My godfather played center field. 2094 01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:47,911 My father played right field. 2095 01:26:47,994 --> 01:26:50,330 And I wanted to be third generation 2096 01:26:50,413 --> 01:26:52,040 and play left field. 2097 01:26:53,541 --> 01:26:57,128 - Willie's the only one and his mama, Pat, 2098 01:26:57,211 --> 01:27:00,256 that could put the brakes and control Barry. 2099 01:27:00,340 --> 01:27:02,300 You know, he'd listen to Bobby most of the time, 2100 01:27:02,383 --> 01:27:03,801 but he listened to Willie all the time. 2101 01:27:03,885 --> 01:27:05,178 [laughs] 2102 01:27:05,261 --> 01:27:07,805 - Barry and Bobby struggle, you know, 2103 01:27:07,889 --> 01:27:09,933 like many fathers and sons do. 2104 01:27:10,016 --> 01:27:13,686 Dad, of course, jumped in, you know, help 'em both out. 2105 01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:14,979 - They were always there for me. 2106 01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:15,939 My dad was there with me. 2107 01:27:16,022 --> 01:27:17,106 I was doing off-season training. 2108 01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,067 My dad was in the batting cage with me every single day 2109 01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:20,526 when I was training, and Willie was there 2110 01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:22,070 all the time when I was training. 2111 01:27:22,153 --> 01:27:23,988 Willie was there with me on the baseball field. 2112 01:27:24,072 --> 01:27:26,658 And I wanted Willie to be proud of me so bad 2113 01:27:26,741 --> 01:27:30,787 that I ate, drank, lived baseball 24 hours a day. 2114 01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:32,080 [bat cracks] 2115 01:27:32,163 --> 01:27:33,748 announcer: Bonds with a drive. 2116 01:27:33,831 --> 01:27:37,168 Looks like number 70 for Barry Bonds. 2117 01:27:37,251 --> 01:27:38,586 And it is! 2118 01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:41,631 - And if you look back at all of Barry Bonds' record, 2119 01:27:41,714 --> 01:27:44,259 what does he say is most meaningful? 2120 01:27:44,342 --> 01:27:45,969 announcer: A knuckleball is hit in the air 2121 01:27:46,052 --> 01:27:48,179 to deep right field. 2122 01:27:48,262 --> 01:27:49,681 - Passing Babe, passing Hank? 2123 01:27:49,764 --> 01:27:53,351 No. Matching Willie Mays, 660. 2124 01:27:53,434 --> 01:27:55,645 announcer: He hits it hard! 2125 01:27:55,728 --> 01:27:58,982 [cheers and applause] 2126 01:27:59,065 --> 01:28:00,775 - When I was going for the home run record, 2127 01:28:00,858 --> 01:28:02,652 I didn't wanna pass Willie Mays. 2128 01:28:02,735 --> 01:28:03,736 That was my godfather. 2129 01:28:03,820 --> 01:28:05,321 That was the only thing I never wanted to do 2130 01:28:05,405 --> 01:28:07,991 was to pass Willie Mays, and that was very hard for me. 2131 01:28:08,074 --> 01:28:10,868 And so Willie sat me aside. 2132 01:28:10,952 --> 01:28:12,537 And I was like, "Willie, I can't do it. 2133 01:28:12,620 --> 01:28:13,830 "It's because it's too emotional. 2134 01:28:13,913 --> 01:28:15,331 "You're gonna come out on the field. 2135 01:28:15,415 --> 01:28:16,666 I'ma start cryin." 2136 01:28:16,749 --> 01:28:19,877 And he said, "You better pass me, 2137 01:28:19,961 --> 01:28:22,130 and then you better keep going." 2138 01:28:22,213 --> 01:28:23,673 I did it because of Willie. 2139 01:28:24,007 --> 01:28:25,550 announcer: And Bonds hits one high and deep 2140 01:28:25,633 --> 01:28:27,468 towards right field and... 2141 01:28:27,552 --> 01:28:30,555 into McCovey Cove! 2142 01:28:30,638 --> 01:28:33,641 - And he said, "You pass me, and you keep passing next. 2143 01:28:33,725 --> 01:28:36,436 And you keep going until they rip that uniform off you." 2144 01:28:38,312 --> 01:28:40,148 [cheers and applause] 2145 01:28:40,231 --> 01:28:42,150 announcer: Bonds passes Babe Ruth. 2146 01:28:42,233 --> 01:28:43,192 [fireworks exploding] 2147 01:28:43,276 --> 01:28:47,363 He is second on the all-time home run list. 2148 01:28:47,447 --> 01:28:49,073 - I gotta thank all of you. 2149 01:28:50,742 --> 01:28:54,245 My family, my dad. 2150 01:28:54,328 --> 01:28:55,872 I was very, very lucky 2151 01:28:55,955 --> 01:28:58,458 to have two of the greatest teachers in the world to me. 2152 01:28:58,541 --> 01:28:59,751 Thank you! 2153 01:28:59,834 --> 01:29:01,919 My father and Willie. 2154 01:29:02,003 --> 01:29:04,964 - Midway into Barry's career as a Giant, 2155 01:29:05,048 --> 01:29:06,841 his father Bobby died. 2156 01:29:06,924 --> 01:29:10,261 And on his deathbed, Willie Mays visits him, 2157 01:29:10,344 --> 01:29:12,764 and Bobby says, "Take care of Barry for me" 2158 01:29:12,847 --> 01:29:16,309 because you're the only guy he listens to other than me." 2159 01:29:16,392 --> 01:29:17,810 And Willie said, "Okay." 2160 01:29:17,894 --> 01:29:20,438 And that was important for all the turmoil 2161 01:29:20,521 --> 01:29:22,899 and all the stuff that Barry went through, 2162 01:29:22,982 --> 01:29:25,234 it was Willie Mays who he could always call, 2163 01:29:25,318 --> 01:29:29,072 Willie Mays who was always there for him. 2164 01:29:29,155 --> 01:29:32,825 [cheers and applause] 2165 01:29:32,909 --> 01:29:36,412 - There was a poignant moment when they saluted Barry Bonds 2166 01:29:36,496 --> 01:29:40,291 and retired his number formally at Oracle Park. 2167 01:29:40,375 --> 01:29:42,668 Willie was there, and he got up 2168 01:29:42,752 --> 01:29:44,629 and said that he needed to speak. 2169 01:29:44,712 --> 01:29:47,465 - When Mr. Mays wants to speak, 2170 01:29:47,548 --> 01:29:48,925 he gets to speak. 2171 01:29:49,008 --> 01:29:51,969 [cheers and applause] 2172 01:29:53,096 --> 01:29:57,350 So we're gonna get Mr. Mays a microphone. 2173 01:29:57,433 --> 01:30:00,478 - I have to go to the podium because when I say something, 2174 01:30:00,561 --> 01:30:02,313 I want everybody to hear. 2175 01:30:02,396 --> 01:30:04,440 - And this was not part of the script. 2176 01:30:04,524 --> 01:30:06,943 - And Willie, take it away. 2177 01:30:07,026 --> 01:30:09,737 [cheers and applause] 2178 01:30:09,821 --> 01:30:13,491 - I don't like to do things like this. 2179 01:30:13,574 --> 01:30:16,953 But the boy that is here today, 2180 01:30:17,036 --> 01:30:19,455 he was like my little son. 2181 01:30:19,539 --> 01:30:24,669 I taught him to be a proud man. 2182 01:30:24,752 --> 01:30:30,216 Give somebody honor that deserve 2183 01:30:30,299 --> 01:30:31,717 to be in the Hall of Fame. 2184 01:30:31,801 --> 01:30:33,177 - Yes, sir! - Yeah. 2185 01:30:33,261 --> 01:30:35,346 [cheers and applause] Yeah. 2186 01:30:35,429 --> 01:30:38,516 - So Willie starts talking about the Hall of Fame 2187 01:30:38,599 --> 01:30:41,018 and what a great thrill it was for him 2188 01:30:41,102 --> 01:30:42,186 when he got that call 2189 01:30:42,270 --> 01:30:44,856 that he was going into the Hall of Fame. 2190 01:30:44,939 --> 01:30:49,193 - You know, Dad sees Barry as a kid that he helped groom, 2191 01:30:49,277 --> 01:30:53,156 and I think Barry sees Dad as his family. 2192 01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:58,536 His dad's gone, so you know, closest thing he's got. 2193 01:30:58,619 --> 01:31:00,496 - Let him have the honor 2194 01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,832 'cause I may not be here forever. 2195 01:31:02,915 --> 01:31:04,167 I might be gone. 2196 01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:06,544 I want him to have kids 2197 01:31:06,627 --> 01:31:10,548 and his kids say, "That's my daddy over there." 2198 01:31:10,631 --> 01:31:13,176 And I want him to have that honor 2199 01:31:13,259 --> 01:31:15,094 be something happen to him. 2200 01:31:15,178 --> 01:31:18,139 [cheers and applause] 2201 01:31:19,390 --> 01:31:20,933 - What do you remember about that speech? 2202 01:31:22,518 --> 01:31:24,228 - Trying not to cry. 2203 01:31:24,312 --> 01:31:26,689 'Cause it was like your father. 2204 01:31:26,772 --> 01:31:28,858 [voice breaking] And that's tough 2205 01:31:28,941 --> 01:31:32,028 'cause he's the world to me. 2206 01:31:32,111 --> 01:31:35,740 And for him to stand up 2207 01:31:35,823 --> 01:31:39,035 for his godson like his son, 2208 01:31:39,118 --> 01:31:41,412 that's what I was holding back. 2209 01:31:41,495 --> 01:31:43,873 And that's the only answer I got for you. 2210 01:31:43,956 --> 01:31:46,542 'Cause that's the same feeling I had, the same-- 2211 01:31:46,626 --> 01:31:48,169 and anyone who ever brings it up, 2212 01:31:48,252 --> 01:31:50,087 it's the same feeling. 2213 01:31:50,171 --> 01:31:52,256 My dad is dead. 2214 01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:55,927 And Willie was--is all I have, right? 2215 01:31:56,010 --> 01:31:58,638 So that... 2216 01:31:58,721 --> 01:32:01,098 don't do it. 2217 01:32:01,182 --> 01:32:02,600 That's how I felt. 2218 01:32:02,683 --> 01:32:06,103 - On behalf of all the people in San Francisco 2219 01:32:06,187 --> 01:32:08,064 and all over the country, 2220 01:32:08,147 --> 01:32:09,899 vote this guy in. 2221 01:32:09,982 --> 01:32:12,693 He is very, very important to me! 2222 01:32:12,777 --> 01:32:14,403 Thank you very much. 2223 01:32:14,487 --> 01:32:17,198 Okay. 2224 01:32:17,281 --> 01:32:20,409 - And I think that was the generosity of spirit. 2225 01:32:20,493 --> 01:32:22,870 That was Willie Mays. 2226 01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:24,747 And who could offer counsel to Barry Bonds 2227 01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:25,957 but Willie Mays? 2228 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,001 [cheers and applause] 2229 01:32:29,085 --> 01:32:30,670 [soft emotional music] 2230 01:32:30,753 --> 01:32:33,673 - Whatever the Lord did for Willie Mays, 2231 01:32:33,756 --> 01:32:39,095 he equipped Willie Mays to play the art of baseball. 2232 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,767 There's some people that could hit as good as he did. 2233 01:32:45,726 --> 01:32:49,480 There's some people that could throw as well as he could. 2234 01:32:49,563 --> 01:32:54,110 On every pitch, Willie Mays was as decisive 2235 01:32:54,193 --> 01:32:56,904 intellectually on baseball, 2236 01:32:56,988 --> 01:32:59,073 as any one of the coaches, 2237 01:32:59,156 --> 01:33:00,992 as any one of the managers. 2238 01:33:01,075 --> 01:33:05,079 None of them could do what Willie Mays could do. 2239 01:33:05,162 --> 01:33:09,500 all: ♪ Happy Birthday, dear Willie ♪ 2240 01:33:09,583 --> 01:33:13,337 ♪ ♪ 2241 01:33:13,421 --> 01:33:17,008 - You had to experience it to understand what he meant. 2242 01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:19,218 all: ♪ To you ♪ - Yeah! 2243 01:33:19,302 --> 01:33:21,762 - He was baseball to a lot of people 2244 01:33:21,846 --> 01:33:25,308 in an era that was brimming with great, great players. 2245 01:33:26,767 --> 01:33:29,186 - I didn't think of him as a mere ballplayer 2246 01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:31,981 or even as a human being, as I look back on it, 2247 01:33:32,064 --> 01:33:34,650 but rather a superhero. 2248 01:33:34,734 --> 01:33:36,193 Willie Mays walks down the street 2249 01:33:36,277 --> 01:33:38,154 and fathers say to their sons, 2250 01:33:38,237 --> 01:33:39,780 "There goes Willie Mays, 2251 01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:42,700 the greatest player to ever play this game." 2252 01:33:42,783 --> 01:33:45,703 [cheers and applause] 2253 01:33:45,786 --> 01:33:48,789 ♪ ♪ 2254 01:33:48,873 --> 01:33:50,041 - We don't have time 2255 01:33:50,124 --> 01:33:53,669 to list all of Willie Mays' statistics 2256 01:33:53,753 --> 01:33:56,213 and his quiet example while excelling 2257 01:33:56,297 --> 01:33:57,715 on one of America's biggest stages 2258 01:33:57,798 --> 01:34:01,677 helped carry forward the banner of civil rights. 2259 01:34:01,761 --> 01:34:06,223 A few years ago, Willie rode with me on Air Force One. 2260 01:34:06,307 --> 01:34:08,351 I told him then what I'll tell all of you now. 2261 01:34:08,434 --> 01:34:10,102 It's because of giants like Willie 2262 01:34:10,186 --> 01:34:13,022 that someone like me could even think about 2263 01:34:13,105 --> 01:34:15,191 running for president. 2264 01:34:15,274 --> 01:34:16,567 [camera shutter clicks] 2265 01:34:16,650 --> 01:34:19,653 [cheers and applause] 2266 01:34:20,946 --> 01:34:22,656 - Are you Willie Mays, the greatest baseball player 2267 01:34:22,740 --> 01:34:25,034 of all time? 2268 01:34:25,117 --> 01:34:26,243 - Uh-uh. 2269 01:34:26,327 --> 01:34:27,536 I don't do that. 2270 01:34:27,620 --> 01:34:28,537 - You don't do that? 2271 01:34:28,621 --> 01:34:30,081 - No. 2272 01:34:30,164 --> 01:34:31,374 - Who is it? Who would be? 2273 01:34:31,457 --> 01:34:34,043 - I don't know. That's not my job. 2274 01:34:34,126 --> 01:34:35,211 - Right. 2275 01:34:35,294 --> 01:34:38,839 - You--if you's talking about the greatest ballplayer, 2276 01:34:38,923 --> 01:34:41,258 I didn't do all that to play baseball. 2277 01:34:41,342 --> 01:34:42,635 - Mm-hmm. - No. 2278 01:34:42,718 --> 01:34:44,512 My dad could play baseball. 2279 01:34:44,595 --> 01:34:47,431 Oh, I got a lot of guys could play baseball. 2280 01:34:47,515 --> 01:34:51,435 I didn't do that to--to-- 2281 01:34:51,519 --> 01:34:54,146 to say I'm the best. 2282 01:34:54,230 --> 01:34:58,234 When I look at myself, I think about sports first. 2283 01:34:58,317 --> 01:35:00,194 [cheers and applause] 2284 01:35:00,277 --> 01:35:02,571 ♪ ♪ 2285 01:35:02,655 --> 01:35:06,409 So many things happened with me on the baseball field 2286 01:35:06,492 --> 01:35:11,622 that I could just look back and just replay every moment. 2287 01:35:11,705 --> 01:35:15,418 I never had a day where somebody would not come up 2288 01:35:15,501 --> 01:35:18,170 and say, "I saw you make a play. 2289 01:35:18,254 --> 01:35:20,965 I love you because of what you did for me." 2290 01:35:21,048 --> 01:35:23,676 And it made me feel very, very proud 2291 01:35:23,759 --> 01:35:26,303 because not only did I play baseball 2292 01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:30,349 for the people, they enjoyed what I did. 2293 01:35:32,893 --> 01:35:36,814 - Ladies and gentlemen, number 24, Willie Mays. 2294 01:35:36,897 --> 01:35:39,608 - ♪ Say hey, Willie ♪ 2295 01:35:39,692 --> 01:35:41,652 ♪ Greatest in the building, what you got to say? ♪ 2296 01:35:41,735 --> 01:35:44,113 ♪ Willie, say hey ♪ 2297 01:35:44,196 --> 01:35:46,824 ♪ No question number 24, will he amaze ya? ♪ 2298 01:35:46,907 --> 01:35:48,951 ♪ Say hey, Willie ♪ 2299 01:35:49,034 --> 01:35:51,454 ♪ Most exciting ballplayer in the game to play ♪ 2300 01:35:51,537 --> 01:35:54,290 ♪ Willie, say hey, Willie Mays ♪ 2301 01:35:54,373 --> 01:35:55,750 - Who's the catcher from the Braves 2302 01:35:55,833 --> 01:35:57,334 whose leg you broke? 2303 01:35:57,418 --> 01:35:59,837 - Del Rice, good guy. 2304 01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,338 - Why'd you break his leg? 2305 01:36:01,422 --> 01:36:02,548 - He got in the goddamn way. 2306 01:36:02,631 --> 01:36:04,884 What do you mean, what-- how I broke his leg? 2307 01:36:04,967 --> 01:36:07,011 I broke it sliding home. 2308 01:36:07,094 --> 01:36:08,095 I told him. 2309 01:36:08,179 --> 01:36:09,889 I said, "You better the hell out the way, man." 2310 01:36:09,972 --> 01:36:12,016 - You broke the same leg twice? 2311 01:36:12,099 --> 01:36:13,601 - Yep. 2312 01:36:13,684 --> 01:36:14,894 He got in the way twice, 2313 01:36:14,977 --> 01:36:17,188 put the leg out there in front of me. 2314 01:36:17,271 --> 01:36:18,939 And I said, "You better get that sumbitch back there 2315 01:36:19,023 --> 01:36:21,317 and hold it for a minute." 2316 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,486 Yeah, he's-- but he was a good guy. 2317 01:36:23,569 --> 01:36:25,779 I didn't-- I didn't hit him too hard. 2318 01:36:25,863 --> 01:36:27,656 Just a little bit. 2319 01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:29,492 - Just hard enough to break his leg, right? 2320 01:36:29,575 --> 01:36:32,244 - [laughing] Yeah, that was enough. 2321 01:36:32,328 --> 01:36:34,371 Who do you like on the team? 2322 01:36:34,455 --> 01:36:35,664 - On the Giants? 2323 01:36:35,748 --> 01:36:37,249 - Yeah. - I'm a--I was a Yankee fan. 2324 01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:38,918 - [laughs] - Huh? 2325 01:36:39,001 --> 01:36:40,711 - I was a Yankee fan. 2326 01:36:40,794 --> 01:36:43,088 - So? - I like Mickey Mantle. 2327 01:36:43,172 --> 01:36:45,007 - What happened to me? 2328 01:36:45,090 --> 01:36:46,175 - [laughs] 2329 01:36:46,258 --> 01:36:47,676 - Oh, you left me already? 2330 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,386 - Oh, no. - [laughs] 2331 01:36:49,470 --> 01:36:50,721 - I think you left me, brother. 2332 01:36:50,804 --> 01:36:52,223 [laughter] 2333 01:36:52,306 --> 01:36:54,517 - Oh, shit. 2334 01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,936 Who else was out there that could play? 2335 01:36:57,019 --> 01:36:58,354 - Babe Ruth? 2336 01:36:58,437 --> 01:36:59,355 - A'ight, well, fuck. 2337 01:36:59,438 --> 01:37:01,899 I ain't see Babe Ruth play. - [laughs] 2338 01:37:01,982 --> 01:37:03,651 - What the hell are you talking about? 2339 01:37:03,734 --> 01:37:05,861 I know Babe. I met Babe 2340 01:37:05,945 --> 01:37:07,780 over in Long Island a couple times, 2341 01:37:07,863 --> 01:37:09,698 but I don't-- - You met Babe Ruth? 2342 01:37:09,782 --> 01:37:11,534 - Yeah. - Did you like Babe Ruth? 2343 01:37:11,617 --> 01:37:12,535 Did you like him as a person? 2344 01:37:12,618 --> 01:37:15,120 - Uh-oh, see, that's why I don't say nothing. 2345 01:37:15,204 --> 01:37:16,997 [laughter] 2346 01:37:17,081 --> 01:37:19,166 - Ready? 2347 01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:21,085 - See, you tryin'. - I'm tryin'! 2348 01:37:21,168 --> 01:37:24,088 [laughter] 2349 01:37:24,171 --> 01:37:26,090 - Oh, my God. 2350 01:37:26,173 --> 01:37:27,925 - 90-year-old man... - Yo, that hurt. 2351 01:37:28,008 --> 01:37:29,468 - Whuppin' your ass. 2352 01:37:29,552 --> 01:37:30,553 - That did hurt. 2353 01:37:30,636 --> 01:37:31,929 - He wanted to arm wrestle Willie. 2354 01:37:32,012 --> 01:37:34,765 - Arm wrestle, no. [laughter] 2355 01:37:34,848 --> 01:37:39,186 I don't wanna break his arm 'cause he'll say I'm cheating. 2356 01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:41,480 - Oh, you kicked my ass today, but-- 2357 01:37:41,564 --> 01:37:43,065 - In the interview or the handshake? 2358 01:37:43,148 --> 01:37:45,067 - Both. I think both. - Definitely both. 2359 01:37:45,150 --> 01:37:46,068 - I think both. 2360 01:37:46,151 --> 01:37:47,861 - I told you to be nice to him, Willie. 2361 01:37:47,945 --> 01:37:48,946 What are you doing? 2362 01:37:49,029 --> 01:37:50,906 - I'll break that son of a bitch next time. 2363 01:37:50,990 --> 01:37:52,074 [laughter] 2364 01:37:52,157 --> 01:37:55,536 - The New York Mets are proud to announce 2365 01:37:55,619 --> 01:37:58,872 that in accordance with Mrs. Payson's wishes 2366 01:37:58,956 --> 01:38:03,752 and at the urging of his former Mets' teammates, 2367 01:38:03,836 --> 01:38:06,338 in recognition of his contributions 2368 01:38:06,422 --> 01:38:09,842 to the Mets, as well as baseball in New York 2369 01:38:09,925 --> 01:38:12,219 and the country at large, 2370 01:38:12,303 --> 01:38:16,807 Willie Mays' 24 will take its place 2371 01:38:16,890 --> 01:38:19,935 in the left field corner here at Citi Field 2372 01:38:20,019 --> 01:38:23,731 with the other greats in Mets' history. 2373 01:38:34,867 --> 01:38:37,077 [bright tone] 180063

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