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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,460 --> 00:00:02,795 [narrator] Funding for 2 00:00:01,460 --> 00:00:02,795 In Search of Israeli Cuisine 3 00:00:02,795 --> 00:00:03,921 is provided by... 4 00:00:44,670 --> 00:00:48,507 [speaking Hebrew] I want 5 00:00:44,670 --> 00:00:48,507 to eat something grilled, 6 00:00:48,507 --> 00:00:50,592 something special... 7 00:00:50,592 --> 00:00:54,013 Do you want me to set 8 00:00:50,592 --> 00:00:54,013 a table for you? 9 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:59,100 I don't need a table, 10 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:59,100 just laffa (bread) 11 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:59,100 or something. 12 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:01,603 [Mike Solomonov] I've been here 13 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:01,603 before, I know the treatment 14 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:03,188 that you get 15 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:03,188 when you sit down. 16 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:05,190 I said, "You know, 17 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:05,190 I just wanted something 18 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:07,651 really, really small to eat." 19 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:07,651 And this is what you get. 20 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:09,987 You get 17 salads 21 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:09,987 plus hummus. 22 00:01:09,987 --> 00:01:12,740 This is known as 23 00:01:09,987 --> 00:01:12,740 a Yemenite grill restaurant. 24 00:01:12,740 --> 00:01:16,827 Notice: Yemenite, 25 00:01:12,740 --> 00:01:16,827 Palestinian, Iraq, 26 00:01:16,827 --> 00:01:18,704 Moroccan, Moroccan. 27 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:21,331 This is Russian, 28 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:21,331 the carrots are from Europe, 29 00:01:21,331 --> 00:01:23,042 the beets are from Europe. 30 00:01:23,042 --> 00:01:25,460 These are sort of Eastern 31 00:01:23,042 --> 00:01:25,460 because of the turmeric. 32 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:30,131 Turkish, Moroccan, 33 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:30,131 I don't even know... Greek? 34 00:01:30,131 --> 00:01:32,968 How many countries are 35 00:01:30,131 --> 00:01:32,968 represented in one place? 36 00:01:35,178 --> 00:01:37,056 I was born in Israel, 37 00:01:37,056 --> 00:01:40,559 and I was 38 00:01:37,056 --> 00:01:40,559 raised in Pittsburgh. 39 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:43,896 My family moved back to Israel 40 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:43,896 when I was around 15, 41 00:01:43,896 --> 00:01:45,397 and I stayed here 42 00:01:43,896 --> 00:01:45,397 for one year 43 00:01:45,397 --> 00:01:46,815 and went to 44 00:01:45,397 --> 00:01:46,815 a boarding school. 45 00:01:46,815 --> 00:01:48,233 Moved back to the States, 46 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:51,612 attempted college, 47 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:51,612 failed miserably, 48 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:55,282 moved back to Israel, 49 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:55,282 and got a job cooking here, 50 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:56,992 and fell in 51 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:56,992 love with it. 52 00:01:56,992 --> 00:01:59,661 So we're getting the Jerusalem 53 00:01:56,992 --> 00:01:59,661 mixed grill right now. 54 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:03,749 This is like old-school 55 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:03,749 street food at its best. 56 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:06,334 [chatter] 57 00:02:07,544 --> 00:02:08,796 Mm! 58 00:02:08,796 --> 00:02:10,422 Then I moved 59 00:02:08,796 --> 00:02:10,422 back to the States, 60 00:02:10,422 --> 00:02:11,673 went to culinary school, 61 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,092 started cooking 62 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,092 in Philadelphia 63 00:02:13,092 --> 00:02:15,260 and cooking 64 00:02:13,092 --> 00:02:15,260 European sort of food, 65 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:18,346 like French and Italian 66 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:18,346 and more refined cuisine. 67 00:02:18,346 --> 00:02:23,018 And then, my brother 68 00:02:18,346 --> 00:02:23,018 was killed here, um... 69 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:27,481 ten years ago. 70 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:31,652 And I think that what happened 71 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:31,652 subconsciously is 72 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:34,947 I started cooking 73 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:34,947 more Israeli cuisine 74 00:02:34,947 --> 00:02:38,158 and, I think, attaching myself 75 00:02:34,947 --> 00:02:38,158 to the country and the culture 76 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:41,078 and the food 77 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:41,078 are things that have kept, 78 00:02:41,078 --> 00:02:42,496 you know, kept me going. 79 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:45,791 It's got lemon juice, 80 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:45,791 it's got zucchini, 81 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:48,167 celery, Swiss chard, 82 00:02:48,167 --> 00:02:50,629 semolina dumpling 83 00:02:48,167 --> 00:02:50,629 stuffed with beef. 84 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:52,965 In 2008, my business 85 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:52,965 partner Steve and I 86 00:02:52,965 --> 00:02:54,800 decided to open 87 00:02:52,965 --> 00:02:54,800 an Israeli restaurant, 88 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,260 and the big question was, 89 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,260 what is Israeli food? 90 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:58,762 Will it work? 91 00:02:58,762 --> 00:03:01,473 So we have cilantro, 92 00:02:58,762 --> 00:03:01,473 parsley, mint, onion, okay? 93 00:03:01,473 --> 00:03:02,808 So I can come here 94 00:03:02,808 --> 00:03:04,685 and bang some pans 95 00:03:02,808 --> 00:03:04,685 with some chefs 96 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,436 and learn some new 97 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,436 recipes and secrets 98 00:03:06,436 --> 00:03:08,063 and appreciate 99 00:03:06,436 --> 00:03:08,063 this country more, 100 00:03:08,063 --> 00:03:10,398 because every day, 101 00:03:08,063 --> 00:03:10,398 every minute that you're here, 102 00:03:10,398 --> 00:03:11,984 you're exposed 103 00:03:10,398 --> 00:03:11,984 to something new. 104 00:03:15,863 --> 00:03:17,156 -[Mike] Mm! 105 00:03:15,863 --> 00:03:17,156 -[Steve] All right. 106 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:21,869 Pretty good, man, huh? 107 00:03:23,787 --> 00:03:26,665 Little bit more, eh, 108 00:03:23,787 --> 00:03:26,665 salt, more pepper, 109 00:03:26,665 --> 00:03:29,793 -and it's perfect. 110 00:03:26,665 --> 00:03:29,793 -Good. Thanks a lot, brother. 111 00:03:29,793 --> 00:03:32,420 [Mike] It's about 112 00:03:29,793 --> 00:03:32,420 tasting new things, 113 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:36,717 and talking about history, 114 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:36,717 this rich, abundant history, 115 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,136 and conflict 116 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,136 and turmoil, as well. 117 00:03:39,136 --> 00:03:42,848 The mission is to show Israeli 118 00:03:39,136 --> 00:03:42,848 cuisine in its entirety, 119 00:03:42,848 --> 00:03:45,600 and to show 120 00:03:42,848 --> 00:03:45,600 Israeli culture, 121 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,895 and the complexity 122 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,895 of things here, 123 00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:51,148 but also the beauty 124 00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:51,148 of things here. 125 00:04:32,606 --> 00:04:35,400 Tel Aviv is 126 00:04:32,606 --> 00:04:35,400 the New York City of Israel. 127 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,485 It's the center 128 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,485 of new Israeli cuisine. 129 00:04:37,485 --> 00:04:41,198 It's the most modern 130 00:04:37,485 --> 00:04:41,198 and most secular city, 131 00:04:41,198 --> 00:04:44,284 unlike Jerusalem, 132 00:04:41,198 --> 00:04:44,284 which is the most religious. 133 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:46,369 Most people don't know 134 00:04:46,369 --> 00:04:48,663 that most Israelis 135 00:04:46,369 --> 00:04:48,663 aren't religious, 136 00:04:48,663 --> 00:04:51,583 and don't observe 137 00:04:48,663 --> 00:04:51,583 kosher dietary laws. 138 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:57,756 Tel Aviv is the place 139 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:57,756 where chefs want to be. 140 00:04:59,258 --> 00:05:00,968 [Meir Adoni] I think 141 00:04:59,258 --> 00:05:00,968 the biggest dream of every cook 142 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:02,261 is to open 143 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:02,261 his own restaurant. 144 00:05:02,261 --> 00:05:03,637 And then after year one, 145 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:05,513 you're like, "This is 146 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:05,513 the worst idea 147 00:05:05,513 --> 00:05:07,307 I've ever had 148 00:05:05,513 --> 00:05:07,307 in my life," right? 149 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,184 Let's talk about 150 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,184 what you do here. 151 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,184 What do you make? 152 00:05:09,184 --> 00:05:11,519 [Adoni] We are taking 153 00:05:09,184 --> 00:05:11,519 universal techniques. 154 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,356 We start from the French 155 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,356 techniques, we study 156 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,356 the Spanish cuisine, 157 00:05:15,356 --> 00:05:17,901 but we are bringing it 158 00:05:15,356 --> 00:05:17,901 to our plates in our way. 159 00:05:17,901 --> 00:05:20,154 And what that means 160 00:05:17,901 --> 00:05:20,154 is, like, local products-- 161 00:05:20,154 --> 00:05:24,407 like goat cheese from Israel 162 00:05:20,154 --> 00:05:24,407 and olive oil from Israel 163 00:05:24,407 --> 00:05:28,036 and local fish and local lamb. 164 00:05:28,036 --> 00:05:30,664 What we find that 165 00:05:28,036 --> 00:05:30,664 is the best in Israel, 166 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:33,333 that's what we're going 167 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:33,333 to put on the plate. 168 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:34,709 What is amazing 169 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:34,709 in Israel, 170 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:36,586 I think it's the only 171 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:36,586 country in the world 172 00:05:36,586 --> 00:05:40,257 that so many cuisines 173 00:05:36,586 --> 00:05:40,257 came here together. 174 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:44,011 And you have, like, 175 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:44,011 more than 150 different 176 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:44,011 cuisines that came. 177 00:05:44,011 --> 00:05:46,680 And all of them, 178 00:05:44,011 --> 00:05:46,680 of course, Jewish. 179 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,849 And what we are trying 180 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,849 to do here is to take 181 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,977 those traditional Jewish dishes 182 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,977 and, like, play with them. 183 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:55,981 [Ruthie Rousso] When I talk 184 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:55,981 to people outside of Israel 185 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:59,609 about Israeli cuisine, people 186 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:59,609 tend to laugh about it. 187 00:05:59,609 --> 00:06:01,945 I've been asked 188 00:05:59,609 --> 00:06:01,945 so many times, 189 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:04,031 "What is exactly 190 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:04,031 Israeli cuisine?" 191 00:06:04,031 --> 00:06:05,573 And actually, 192 00:06:04,031 --> 00:06:05,573 people even question 193 00:06:05,573 --> 00:06:07,617 if there is 194 00:06:05,573 --> 00:06:07,617 Israeli cuisine. 195 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:10,912 Yes, there 196 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:10,912 is Israeli cuisine. 197 00:06:10,912 --> 00:06:12,873 Yes, there is 198 00:06:10,912 --> 00:06:12,873 an Israeli kitchen. 199 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:15,042 It is so complex. 200 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:15,042 It is so diverse. 201 00:06:15,042 --> 00:06:17,502 And this is why it is 202 00:06:15,042 --> 00:06:17,502 hard to define it, 203 00:06:17,502 --> 00:06:19,754 not because 204 00:06:17,502 --> 00:06:19,754 it does not exist. 205 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:23,758 Israeli cuisine 206 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:23,758 is a nonexistent idea. 207 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:26,385 We're too young 208 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:26,385 to have our own cuisine. 209 00:06:26,385 --> 00:06:28,763 That would be just, 210 00:06:26,385 --> 00:06:28,763 eh, ridiculous, 211 00:06:28,763 --> 00:06:30,431 to claim that in 65 years, 212 00:06:30,431 --> 00:06:33,685 we've managed 213 00:06:30,431 --> 00:06:33,685 to recreate our cuisine. 214 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:35,603 [Janna Gur] 215 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:35,603 It's not a cuisine yet. 216 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:38,732 It's perhaps a nascent cuisine, 217 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:38,732 a baby cuisine; 218 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:41,526 but a very 219 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:41,526 precocious baby. 220 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:44,238 It's a combination 221 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:44,238 of what we have here, 222 00:06:44,238 --> 00:06:47,574 of local terroir 223 00:06:44,238 --> 00:06:47,574 of Palestinian cooking, 224 00:06:47,574 --> 00:06:50,118 and of our immigrant baggage, 225 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:53,663 which we brought 226 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:53,663 from our grandparents, 227 00:06:53,663 --> 00:06:55,749 who basically come 228 00:06:53,663 --> 00:06:55,749 from all over the place, 229 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,919 and that's 230 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,919 what makes it special. 231 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,838 We're going to make 232 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,838 some traditional Turkish food, 233 00:07:01,838 --> 00:07:04,549 stuff from 234 00:07:01,838 --> 00:07:04,549 my grandmother's house. 235 00:07:05,633 --> 00:07:08,262 Your family is from 236 00:07:05,633 --> 00:07:08,262 Turkey, 100%? 237 00:07:08,262 --> 00:07:09,971 No, my dad. 238 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:13,058 My mom's family 239 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:13,058 comes from Poland. 240 00:07:13,058 --> 00:07:16,311 -We're just gonna render 241 00:07:13,058 --> 00:07:16,311 and sort of caramelize-- 242 00:07:13,058 --> 00:07:16,311 -Right, exactly. 243 00:07:16,311 --> 00:07:20,315 Beautiful. So, how do you take 244 00:07:16,311 --> 00:07:20,315 traditional Israeli cuisine, 245 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:24,027 food that I grew up with, 246 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:24,027 my grandmother's food, 247 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:25,612 how do you turn that 248 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:25,612 into something modern? 249 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:28,990 We're more flexible 250 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:28,990 because this culture 251 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:28,990 is younger, 252 00:07:28,990 --> 00:07:34,079 and it allows you to maneuver 253 00:07:28,990 --> 00:07:34,079 and change things from the base. 254 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:38,083 I mean, when you have a culture 255 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:38,083 that is 1,000 years old, 256 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:39,960 then it's difficult 257 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:39,960 to change it. 258 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,339 For example, Jewish food will be 259 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,339 very difficult to change, okay? 260 00:07:44,339 --> 00:07:48,260 Every time you change 261 00:07:44,339 --> 00:07:48,260 the seasoning of the chicken-- 262 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:50,720 God forbid you should have 263 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:50,720 not-traditional chopped liver. 264 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,805 Right. 265 00:07:53,223 --> 00:07:54,849 My grandmother's 266 00:07:53,223 --> 00:07:54,849 Bulgarian. 267 00:07:54,849 --> 00:07:58,103 She would make boreka 268 00:07:54,849 --> 00:07:58,103 dough with margarine. 269 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,897 And she would do it because 270 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,897 they had no access to butter. 271 00:08:00,897 --> 00:08:02,565 We all know that 272 00:08:00,897 --> 00:08:02,565 margarine sucks, 273 00:08:02,565 --> 00:08:04,943 that butter beats up 274 00:08:02,565 --> 00:08:04,943 margarine in a fight... 275 00:08:04,943 --> 00:08:06,278 [both chuckle] 276 00:08:06,278 --> 00:08:07,862 ...and that margarine 277 00:08:06,278 --> 00:08:07,862 is terribly unhealthy, 278 00:08:07,862 --> 00:08:09,697 and because 279 00:08:07,862 --> 00:08:09,697 we're not poor immigrants 280 00:08:09,697 --> 00:08:12,117 living in a tent 281 00:08:09,697 --> 00:08:12,117 for two years, 282 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:14,119 we can afford butter. 283 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:15,912 What do I do? 284 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:15,912 Do I make it with butter, 285 00:08:15,912 --> 00:08:17,247 or do I make it 286 00:08:15,912 --> 00:08:17,247 with margarine? 287 00:08:17,247 --> 00:08:18,748 -You make it with butter. 288 00:08:17,247 --> 00:08:18,748 -Butter. 289 00:08:18,748 --> 00:08:20,250 You can't make the dough 290 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:22,543 -exactly like your 291 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:22,543 grandmother, right? 292 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:22,543 -I cannot. 293 00:08:22,543 --> 00:08:24,838 You can't add 294 00:08:22,543 --> 00:08:24,838 that special ingredient 295 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:27,174 of caring that she used, 296 00:08:27,174 --> 00:08:29,301 but you can add the butter 297 00:08:27,174 --> 00:08:29,301 that she couldn't use. 298 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:33,888 You're making your 299 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:33,888 grandmother's dish right now, 300 00:08:33,888 --> 00:08:37,851 and it's obviously 301 00:08:33,888 --> 00:08:37,851 more than just food, right? 302 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:40,395 I used to have borekas 303 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:40,395 on the menu at Zahav, 304 00:08:40,395 --> 00:08:41,855 and after 305 00:08:40,395 --> 00:08:41,855 my grandmother passed away, 306 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:44,107 I just didn't want 307 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:44,107 them on there anymore. 308 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:46,067 I didn't want 309 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:46,067 people to handle it. 310 00:08:46,067 --> 00:08:49,612 I didn't want restaurant people 311 00:08:46,067 --> 00:08:49,612 coming in and judging it. 312 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:53,450 I'm eating all of 313 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:53,450 this right now. 314 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:54,826 ( laughs ) 315 00:08:56,661 --> 00:08:59,664 -Hmm. 316 00:08:56,661 --> 00:08:59,664 -It feels like home. 317 00:09:14,513 --> 00:09:17,057 [Solomonov] My relationship 318 00:09:14,513 --> 00:09:17,057 with my grandmother-- 319 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,267 I mean, I didn't 320 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,267 speak Hebrew. 321 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:23,230 Our conversation wasn't that 322 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:23,230 great, it wasn't that rich. 323 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,732 You know, it wasn't strained. 324 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,732 I mean, I loved her, 325 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:30,153 but we just didn't have a lot 326 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:30,153 going for us, you know? 327 00:09:32,613 --> 00:09:37,660 But the borekas were 328 00:09:32,613 --> 00:09:37,660 something, in a weird way, 329 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:39,371 that brought us together. 330 00:09:43,542 --> 00:09:46,211 She was a fantastic woman 331 00:09:43,542 --> 00:09:46,211 and a great cook, 332 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:48,088 and she would make 333 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:48,088 these pastries. 334 00:09:48,088 --> 00:09:52,175 That, quite honestly, was her 335 00:09:48,088 --> 00:09:52,175 way of doing something for me. 336 00:09:56,388 --> 00:10:00,559 I was 19, not a particularly 337 00:09:56,388 --> 00:10:00,559 high point in my life, 338 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,270 and I couldn't 339 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,270 find a job anywhere 340 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:05,355 because my Hebrew 341 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:05,355 was terrible. 342 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:06,814 I really was skill-less. 343 00:10:06,814 --> 00:10:09,526 So I walked down 344 00:10:06,814 --> 00:10:09,526 the street looking for a job. 345 00:10:09,526 --> 00:10:11,736 I looked into this bakery. 346 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:14,948 They've got trays and trays 347 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:14,948 and trays of these borekas, 348 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:16,991 these borekas that 349 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:16,991 my grandmother cooked for me, 350 00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:18,952 that I grew up 351 00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:18,952 with and loved. 352 00:10:20,703 --> 00:10:24,999 So I stumbled in, asked them 353 00:10:20,703 --> 00:10:24,999 if they needed help, 354 00:10:24,999 --> 00:10:26,876 and they gave me a job. 355 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:28,669 It was mostly 356 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:28,669 scrubbing sheet trays 357 00:10:28,669 --> 00:10:30,755 and being yelled at 358 00:10:28,669 --> 00:10:30,755 in many different languages 359 00:10:30,755 --> 00:10:33,091 that I didn't understand, 360 00:10:33,091 --> 00:10:35,760 and eventually I learned how 361 00:10:33,091 --> 00:10:35,760 to make pastries there. 362 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,721 And then I got a job 363 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,721 cooking up the street 364 00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:40,848 for 30 cents more 365 00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:40,848 an hour, maybe, 366 00:10:40,848 --> 00:10:43,435 and that was it! 367 00:10:43,435 --> 00:10:46,187 So here they are. 368 00:10:46,187 --> 00:10:48,315 Safta Mati's borekas. 369 00:10:53,528 --> 00:10:56,906 These borekas smell 370 00:10:53,528 --> 00:10:56,906 like her kitchen. 371 00:11:02,245 --> 00:11:05,415 [Rousso] Many years ago, 372 00:11:02,245 --> 00:11:05,415 it was completely different. 373 00:11:05,415 --> 00:11:06,958 People were ashamed of 374 00:11:06,958 --> 00:11:10,545 presenting 375 00:11:06,958 --> 00:11:10,545 their grandmothers' cooking... 376 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:15,467 mainly because 377 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:15,467 of Israel's history. 378 00:11:15,467 --> 00:11:18,136 People wanted to come here 379 00:11:15,467 --> 00:11:18,136 and become Israeli. 380 00:11:18,136 --> 00:11:21,181 They didn't know 381 00:11:18,136 --> 00:11:21,181 what Israeli meant, 382 00:11:21,181 --> 00:11:24,892 but they just knew it's not 383 00:11:21,181 --> 00:11:24,892 what they were at home. 384 00:11:24,892 --> 00:11:28,438 So they wanted to adapt 385 00:11:24,892 --> 00:11:28,438 a new identity, 386 00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:31,566 which meant they had 387 00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:31,566 to erase their old identity. 388 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:33,776 [Gil Hovav] They were 389 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:33,776 speaking Yiddish and Russian 390 00:11:33,776 --> 00:11:35,945 and Arabic and French 391 00:11:33,776 --> 00:11:35,945 and Turkish and, 392 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:38,657 eh, Ladino and whatever, 393 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:38,657 but not Hebrew. 394 00:11:38,657 --> 00:11:42,243 My great-grandfather 395 00:11:38,657 --> 00:11:42,243 was Eliezer ben-Yehuda. 396 00:11:42,243 --> 00:11:46,831 He singlehandedly revived 397 00:11:42,243 --> 00:11:46,831 Hebrew about 150 years ago. 398 00:11:46,831 --> 00:11:49,668 At the time, Hebrew 399 00:11:46,831 --> 00:11:49,668 was completely dead, 400 00:11:49,668 --> 00:11:51,127 just like Latin today, 401 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:54,005 and it was his vision 402 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:54,005 that Zionism 403 00:11:54,005 --> 00:11:56,633 would only come 404 00:11:54,005 --> 00:11:56,633 with a language. 405 00:11:56,633 --> 00:12:01,137 [Gur] All these young pioneers 406 00:11:56,633 --> 00:12:01,137 during the early Zionist era 407 00:12:01,137 --> 00:12:04,015 wanted nothing 408 00:12:01,137 --> 00:12:04,015 to do with the diaspora, 409 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:06,100 neither the language 410 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:06,100 nor the foods 411 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:09,396 that reminded them 412 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:09,396 of years of persecution 413 00:12:09,396 --> 00:12:12,649 and discrimination, 414 00:12:09,396 --> 00:12:12,649 all the things that they 415 00:12:09,396 --> 00:12:12,649 were running away from. 416 00:12:12,649 --> 00:12:17,487 [Offaim] They looked 417 00:12:12,649 --> 00:12:17,487 at their fellows in Europe, 418 00:12:17,487 --> 00:12:20,323 Europe of the end 419 00:12:17,487 --> 00:12:20,323 of the 19th century. 420 00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:22,659 The Jews, most of them 421 00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:22,659 were living in poverty. 422 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:26,162 They were outcasts 423 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:26,162 of society. 424 00:12:26,162 --> 00:12:30,250 They lived in small 425 00:12:26,162 --> 00:12:30,250 villages in the dirt, 426 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:31,668 and they said, 427 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:34,212 "We don't want to 428 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:34,212 be those Jews." 429 00:12:34,212 --> 00:12:36,506 [Rousso] It was 430 00:12:34,212 --> 00:12:36,506 looked down at-- 431 00:12:36,506 --> 00:12:38,757 people who were looking 432 00:12:36,506 --> 00:12:38,757 like immigrants, 433 00:12:38,757 --> 00:12:42,512 who were cooking or dressing 434 00:12:38,757 --> 00:12:42,512 or talking like immigrants. 435 00:12:42,512 --> 00:12:45,599 Everyone was looking up 436 00:12:42,512 --> 00:12:45,599 at whoever looked Israeli, 437 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:47,225 whatever that meant. 438 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:49,102 It had to be local. 439 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,687 You had to be tougher. 440 00:12:50,687 --> 00:12:52,439 [Offaim] This is a new Jew. 441 00:12:52,439 --> 00:12:56,359 It is a strong, 442 00:12:52,439 --> 00:12:56,359 masculine Jew who's not afraid, 443 00:12:56,359 --> 00:12:59,028 who carries weapons, 444 00:12:56,359 --> 00:12:59,028 who protects himself. 445 00:12:59,028 --> 00:13:05,535 No one will be able to make 446 00:12:59,028 --> 00:13:05,535 a pogrom with the new Jews. 447 00:13:05,535 --> 00:13:08,079 You know, when you get lost, 448 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:09,956 when you're navigating 449 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:09,956 in the army, 450 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,333 and you get lost, 451 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,333 they tell you one thing. 452 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:16,504 "Go back to the last place 453 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:16,504 you knew where you are." 454 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:20,759 And the last place we knew 455 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:20,759 where we are is Eretz Israel. 456 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,178 And this is why 457 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,178 my ancestors have decided 458 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:27,307 to make the long way 459 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:27,307 from 19th-century Europe 460 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:30,393 to Eretz Israel, and they 461 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:30,393 didn't want to come here 462 00:13:30,393 --> 00:13:33,812 dressed in black 463 00:13:30,393 --> 00:13:33,812 reading their holy scriptures, 464 00:13:33,812 --> 00:13:36,023 and wait for 465 00:13:33,812 --> 00:13:36,023 God to help them. 466 00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:39,444 They wanted to be 467 00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:39,444 in charge of their own fate, 468 00:13:39,444 --> 00:13:41,696 of their own destiny. 469 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:44,783 And in order to do that, they 470 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:44,783 needed to provide the first 471 00:13:44,783 --> 00:13:50,413 and foremost thing that people 472 00:13:44,783 --> 00:13:50,413 need in order to survive: food. 473 00:13:58,004 --> 00:14:00,381 [restaurant chatter] 474 00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:12,769 I had 475 00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:12,769 a very clear vision 476 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:16,230 as to what I wanted 477 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:16,230 to do in my restaurant, 478 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:21,528 and my vision was that 479 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:21,528 the experience should be whole 480 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:24,030 and the food, 481 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:24,030 the ingredients, 482 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:26,491 the way we touch the food, 483 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:28,868 the way the food is 484 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:28,868 served on the table, 485 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:31,454 the plates, everything 486 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:31,454 has to be part 487 00:14:31,454 --> 00:14:34,165 of the experience 488 00:14:31,454 --> 00:14:34,165 of nature. 489 00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:37,418 The fact that the place is 490 00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:37,418 open, that you can smell, 491 00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:41,005 that you can feel, that you 492 00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:41,005 can see, that you can hear. 493 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:44,384 So I started learning 494 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:44,384 traditional dishes 495 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:46,969 of local Palestinian cuisine 496 00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:49,764 and of southern France cuisine 497 00:14:49,764 --> 00:14:53,852 that have very similar 498 00:14:49,764 --> 00:14:53,852 geographical conditions 499 00:14:53,852 --> 00:14:56,896 and have very 500 00:14:53,852 --> 00:14:56,896 similar ingredients, 501 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:59,482 and many similar techniques. 502 00:15:01,442 --> 00:15:03,737 [Solomonov] 503 00:15:01,442 --> 00:15:03,737 You cannot get more local 504 00:15:03,737 --> 00:15:06,113 than foraging for wild 505 00:15:03,737 --> 00:15:06,113 herbs in the hills 506 00:15:06,113 --> 00:15:07,948 right near the restaurant. 507 00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:11,703 I do this every week 508 00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:11,703 just before we start to work 509 00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:11,703 at the restaurant. 510 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:15,498 In the summertime, 511 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:15,498 I can find sumac, 512 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:19,126 which is a very 513 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:19,126 important spice for 514 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:19,126 cuisine around here. 515 00:15:19,126 --> 00:15:22,505 It's acidic 516 00:15:19,126 --> 00:15:22,505 in a very specific way. 517 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:25,592 We can use it as 518 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:25,592 a bouquet garni for stocks. 519 00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:29,220 Marinate lamb with it, 520 00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:29,220 which is what we're going 521 00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:29,220 to do for this lunch. 522 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:32,932 And when you get it fresh, 523 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:32,932 it's very, very different. 524 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:35,184 [ben Zvi] I don't 525 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:35,184 use ingredients 526 00:15:35,184 --> 00:15:37,729 that cannot grow here. 527 00:15:37,729 --> 00:15:40,732 For example, I love 528 00:15:37,729 --> 00:15:40,732 coconut milk, 529 00:15:40,732 --> 00:15:43,693 but coconut milk does 530 00:15:40,732 --> 00:15:43,693 not enter my kitchen, 531 00:15:43,693 --> 00:15:45,945 because it takes people's 532 00:15:43,693 --> 00:15:45,945 consciousness 533 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,740 to the beautiful 534 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,740 beaches of Thailand. 535 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:51,785 I want them here 536 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:51,785 in this land with lamb, 537 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:55,747 with olive oil, 538 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:55,747 with basilicum, with tomatoes. 539 00:15:55,747 --> 00:15:57,582 And we're very lucky 540 00:15:57,582 --> 00:16:00,752 to have our own organic 541 00:15:57,582 --> 00:16:00,752 vegetable gardens 542 00:16:00,752 --> 00:16:03,463 where we grow 543 00:16:00,752 --> 00:16:03,463 a lot of our vegetables. 544 00:16:09,343 --> 00:16:10,887 This is the lamb rack. 545 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:14,181 The lamb has been growing 546 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:14,181 around those mountains, 547 00:16:14,181 --> 00:16:16,183 and it is organic as well. 548 00:16:16,183 --> 00:16:18,227 We picked the sumac, 549 00:16:16,183 --> 00:16:18,227 rinse it, 550 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:20,980 then rub it all in 551 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:20,980 and start cooking it. 552 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,858 -So just right in here? 553 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,858 -Yeah, right in there. 554 00:16:23,858 --> 00:16:27,987 This is awesome because 555 00:16:23,858 --> 00:16:27,987 the lamb is from here. 556 00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:30,030 Olive oil from here. 557 00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:32,158 The lamb probably 558 00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:32,158 grazes on... 559 00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:33,451 On sumac. 560 00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:35,369 Well, yeah, I mean, 561 00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:35,369 it's vegetation... 562 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,456 So we're really 563 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,456 trying to get this 564 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,456 as local as possible. 565 00:16:40,166 --> 00:16:41,835 [ben Zvi] You should 566 00:16:40,166 --> 00:16:41,835 understand that 567 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:44,253 it's a very small country, 568 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:44,253 so for Israel, 569 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:47,757 two hours' drive is 570 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:47,757 the other side of the world. 571 00:16:47,757 --> 00:16:51,469 If we have to get ingredients 572 00:16:47,757 --> 00:16:51,469 one hour from here, for example, 573 00:16:51,469 --> 00:16:53,805 we don't have fish here, 574 00:16:51,469 --> 00:16:53,805 we are in the mountains, 575 00:16:53,805 --> 00:16:57,141 so for many years, I didn't 576 00:16:53,805 --> 00:16:57,141 serve fish in the restaurant 577 00:16:57,141 --> 00:16:58,893 because I said, for fish, 578 00:16:58,893 --> 00:17:01,395 I have to travel 579 00:16:58,893 --> 00:17:01,395 to the port in Tel Aviv. 580 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:02,939 It's 45 minutes from here. 581 00:17:02,939 --> 00:17:04,649 It's not local. 582 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:10,488 Then I understood that I can be 583 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:10,488 a little bit more flexible, 584 00:17:10,488 --> 00:17:13,825 and we started 585 00:17:10,488 --> 00:17:13,825 serving also fish. 586 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:16,536 But this is 587 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:16,536 the farthest we go. 588 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:22,249 We are going to start 589 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:22,249 with a bit of cream 590 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:22,249 of sweet potato. 591 00:17:22,249 --> 00:17:23,292 Beautiful. 592 00:17:23,292 --> 00:17:25,879 This is steamed daikon. 593 00:17:25,879 --> 00:17:28,840 Beautiful, and this is 594 00:17:25,879 --> 00:17:28,840 all from here, or no? 595 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,133 Yes, of course. And leeks. 596 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:34,387 Every single bit 597 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:34,387 of this plate 598 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,556 is all within five 599 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,556 kilometers away. 600 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:38,808 Except for this salt, 601 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:38,808 which is sea salt. 602 00:17:38,808 --> 00:17:40,601 That's the only thing 603 00:17:38,808 --> 00:17:40,601 that's exported. 604 00:17:40,601 --> 00:17:42,937 I brought this 605 00:17:40,601 --> 00:17:42,937 from the Dead Sea! 606 00:17:40,601 --> 00:17:42,937 No, that's a joke. 607 00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:44,898 Still working on that. 608 00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,482 -Help yourself. 609 00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,482 -I'm doing it. 610 00:17:55,199 --> 00:17:56,242 Mm! 611 00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:05,668 [ben Zvi] When I opened 612 00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:05,668 my restaurant 18 years ago, 613 00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:07,670 I was very exotic. 614 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:10,965 Talking about local 615 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:10,965 ingredients was very exotic. 616 00:18:10,965 --> 00:18:13,593 Now, even if you have 617 00:18:10,965 --> 00:18:13,593 a restaurant in Tel Aviv, 618 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:15,135 you talk about 619 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:15,135 local ingredients. 620 00:18:15,135 --> 00:18:17,013 Even if you have 621 00:18:15,135 --> 00:18:17,013 a restaurant in Tel Aviv, 622 00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:20,099 you drive half an hour, 623 00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:20,099 you are in a farm 624 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:23,019 and you can buy 625 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:23,019 your local ingredients. 626 00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:53,173 [Uri Jeremias] 627 00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:53,173 I love Akko. 628 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:55,843 It is a very special city, 629 00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:58,220 one of the oldest 630 00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:58,220 cities in the world. 631 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:02,016 You've had your restaurant 632 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:02,016 for 25 years, 633 00:19:02,016 --> 00:19:05,478 which is more than an eternity 634 00:19:02,016 --> 00:19:05,478 in the restaurant world, 635 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,981 but you've also been 636 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,981 in Akko this entire time. 637 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:10,524 I remember the moment 638 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:10,524 I started cooking, 639 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:12,610 everybody 640 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:12,610 that I knew in Israel 641 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:14,320 would talk 642 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:14,320 about your restaurants. 643 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,407 First of all, you work 644 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,407 with local materials. 645 00:19:19,867 --> 00:19:22,620 We have so many 646 00:19:19,867 --> 00:19:22,620 kinds of local fish-- 647 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:26,457 the sea bream, 648 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:26,457 the gray mullet, the grouper. 649 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:28,292 Beautiful fish. 650 00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:32,130 My cuisine does not 651 00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:32,130 belong to any section. 652 00:19:32,130 --> 00:19:36,050 I cook only things 653 00:19:32,130 --> 00:19:36,050 that I like to eat. 654 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:38,845 I never learned cooking, I've 655 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:38,845 never worked in any restaurant, 656 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:41,097 so I'm doing 657 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:41,097 my own thing. 658 00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:44,391 Here we have 659 00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:44,391 beautiful shrimp. 660 00:19:44,391 --> 00:19:47,061 Wow, are these shrimp 661 00:19:44,391 --> 00:19:47,061 all from here? 662 00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:48,395 Yeah, these 663 00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:48,395 are all local. 664 00:19:48,395 --> 00:19:50,314 What kind 665 00:19:48,395 --> 00:19:50,314 of shrimp are those? 666 00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:51,899 This is tiger. 667 00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:55,153 -This is blue sailor. 668 00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:55,153 -Blue sailor crab? 669 00:19:55,153 --> 00:19:59,615 Yeah, and the blue sailor 670 00:19:55,153 --> 00:19:59,615 is an excellent crab. 671 00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:04,704 -So sweet. 672 00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:04,704 -Ah, unbelievable. 673 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:06,956 Wow! Yeah, I've never had it. 674 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:06,956 It's still moving, too. 675 00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:09,542 Amberjack, rabbitfish. 676 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,668 Right. 677 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,668 Little groupers? 678 00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:12,419 Yes. This is 679 00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:12,419 the red shrimp. 680 00:20:12,419 --> 00:20:13,546 Okay. 681 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:16,799 It has this 682 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:16,799 unbelievable sea taste. 683 00:20:21,095 --> 00:20:24,140 -Wow. 684 00:20:21,095 --> 00:20:24,140 -Ah, fresh anchovies. 685 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:25,265 Beautiful. 686 00:20:25,265 --> 00:20:27,434 You see, 687 00:20:25,265 --> 00:20:27,434 we take the skin off. 688 00:20:27,434 --> 00:20:28,561 Yeah. 689 00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:33,315 And you put just 690 00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:33,315 a touch of salt on it. 691 00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:34,984 Here, tell me when. 692 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:37,904 [speaking Hebrew] 693 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,534 -Goddamn it, 694 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,534 that is so good. 695 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,534 -Anyone wants to try? 696 00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:46,204 Oh, my God, 697 00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:46,204 that is so good. 698 00:20:46,204 --> 00:20:50,290 Sometimes things 699 00:20:46,204 --> 00:20:50,290 are so ingeniously made 700 00:20:46,204 --> 00:20:50,290 by the Creator, 701 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:52,752 we don't have 702 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:52,752 to add too much. 703 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:01,385 [Solomonov] Oh, wow. 704 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,804 First of all, 705 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,804 you fry it shortly, 706 00:21:03,804 --> 00:21:08,768 and then you put 707 00:21:03,804 --> 00:21:08,768 the coconut milk on top. 708 00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:10,853 You close the lid. 709 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:13,898 When you close the lid, 710 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:13,898 it is like steaming. 711 00:21:13,898 --> 00:21:16,984 -Right. 712 00:21:13,898 --> 00:21:16,984 -Yeah, so it's baking, steaming, 713 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:20,279 -and frying at the same. 714 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:20,279 -So a three-part-- 715 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,073 you're doing three 716 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,073 types of cooking 717 00:21:22,073 --> 00:21:24,491 for almost three minutes, 718 00:21:22,073 --> 00:21:24,491 and that's it, right? 719 00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:26,827 That's it, and then you 720 00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:26,827 add the apples. 721 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:29,956 And the apples are sour, 722 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:29,956 and this is chili. 723 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,665 It's hot. 724 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:35,044 So when you eat the chili, 725 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:35,044 and then you eat the apple-- 726 00:21:35,044 --> 00:21:37,213 You're ready to go 727 00:21:35,044 --> 00:21:37,213 for some more, right? 728 00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:44,011 Mm, man. 729 00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:44,011 That is delicious. 730 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:50,226 So my question to you is 731 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:50,226 what is Israeli cuisine? 732 00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:53,479 It is a very hard 733 00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:53,479 thing to say, 734 00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:55,648 because Israel is built 735 00:21:55,648 --> 00:22:00,611 from something like 736 00:21:55,648 --> 00:22:00,611 187 representatives 737 00:22:00,611 --> 00:22:01,988 -from different countries. 738 00:22:00,611 --> 00:22:01,988 -Right. 739 00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:05,074 All these things 740 00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:05,074 have influence, 741 00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:07,660 and until 15 years ago, 742 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:09,996 we made Moroccan food, 743 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:09,996 pulao from Persia... 744 00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:12,414 pulao = rice 745 00:22:12,414 --> 00:22:15,709 ...and then the last 15 years, 746 00:22:12,414 --> 00:22:15,709 we make a local mix, 747 00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:18,754 which is Israeli food. 748 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:24,969 [Gur] In the '90s, 749 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:24,969 everything kind of happened 750 00:22:24,969 --> 00:22:27,888 at the same time, 751 00:22:24,969 --> 00:22:27,888 almost the same time-- 752 00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:30,724 the wine, the bread, 753 00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:30,724 the olive oil. 754 00:22:30,724 --> 00:22:32,601 Olive oil! 755 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:36,438 It's the symbol of the state 756 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:36,438 of Israel, olive branches, 757 00:22:36,438 --> 00:22:38,983 but most Israelis, 758 00:22:36,438 --> 00:22:38,983 especially of European origin, 759 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:41,359 didn't know the first 760 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:41,359 thing about olive oil. 761 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280 When Israel was 762 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280 founded a few decades ago, 763 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,907 that was a really 764 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,907 a hard, tough situation. 765 00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:48,742 The country was poor, 766 00:22:48,742 --> 00:22:51,495 the country was just 767 00:22:48,742 --> 00:22:51,495 building itself, 768 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:55,373 so food as a lifestyle 769 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:55,373 was nonexistent. 770 00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:58,919 And the cookbooks of the time 771 00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:58,919 are very, very efficient, 772 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:02,422 like how to save money, 773 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:02,422 how to use leftovers, 774 00:23:02,422 --> 00:23:05,676 how to make cheap, healthy, 775 00:23:02,422 --> 00:23:05,676 and nutritious food. 776 00:23:05,676 --> 00:23:07,178 That's it. 777 00:23:07,178 --> 00:23:09,429 Up until the late '70s, 778 00:23:09,429 --> 00:23:13,059 Israelis ate horrible food, 779 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:16,812 and it wasn't because they 780 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:16,812 were not talented in cooking. 781 00:23:16,812 --> 00:23:20,316 It was because, first of 782 00:23:16,812 --> 00:23:20,316 all, having fun was a sin, 783 00:23:20,316 --> 00:23:24,028 and secondly, most Israelis 784 00:23:20,316 --> 00:23:24,028 were not well-to-do, 785 00:23:24,028 --> 00:23:26,404 so they did not 786 00:23:24,028 --> 00:23:26,404 know what to look for, 787 00:23:26,404 --> 00:23:28,032 or they could not afford 788 00:23:28,032 --> 00:23:30,326 what they remembered 789 00:23:28,032 --> 00:23:30,326 from the old country. 790 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:35,248 In the '80s, there 791 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:35,248 was an economic boom. 792 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:40,127 People started traveling, 793 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:40,127 people saw that outside, 794 00:23:40,127 --> 00:23:42,838 it's lovely, and there 795 00:23:40,127 --> 00:23:42,838 are good restaurants, 796 00:23:42,838 --> 00:23:46,508 and food is being celebrated. 797 00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:49,762 They came back 798 00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:49,762 from abroad and said, 799 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:54,308 "We don't want this stupid, 800 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:54,308 modest life kind of bon ton. 801 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:58,271 We want to have great wonderful 802 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:58,271 time like Europeans, 803 00:23:58,271 --> 00:23:59,939 Americans, and so on." 804 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,733 Said, "Well, we want 805 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,733 to enjoy life, too, you know?" 806 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:08,030 When people 807 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:08,030 went abroad, they realized, 808 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:10,741 well, it isn't so bad 809 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:10,741 to like food, 810 00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:12,701 and Jews can 811 00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:12,701 like food, too, 812 00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:14,745 and we don't have 813 00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:14,745 to feel guilty about it. 814 00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:18,165 And a lot of the young 815 00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:18,165 chefs went abroad, 816 00:24:18,165 --> 00:24:21,459 and when they came back, 817 00:24:18,165 --> 00:24:21,459 they started restaurants. 818 00:24:23,587 --> 00:24:29,509 Nowadays, Israel, 819 00:24:23,587 --> 00:24:29,509 I think I may even say, 820 00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:32,138 is one of 821 00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:32,138 the leading forces of, 822 00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:36,474 of the new cuisine in the world, 823 00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:36,474 because it combines 824 00:24:36,474 --> 00:24:39,103 so many aspects 825 00:24:36,474 --> 00:24:39,103 of new cooking, 826 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:43,316 because it has so many 827 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:43,316 people coming from India, 828 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:46,360 or from the States, 829 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:46,360 or from Morocco, 830 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,487 or from Russia or Tunis 831 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,487 or France, etc., etc., 832 00:24:49,487 --> 00:24:52,450 and making something together. 833 00:25:19,059 --> 00:25:21,061 [Solomonov] You're a chef, 834 00:25:19,059 --> 00:25:21,061 and you've been 835 00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:24,440 a successful chef 836 00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:24,440 for as long as I've cooked. 837 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:29,153 Most people associate a lot of 838 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:29,153 modern Israeli cooking with you, 839 00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:31,780 and what you do, 840 00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:31,780 and how does your ancestry 841 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:34,825 play a part into 842 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:34,825 the food that you cook? 843 00:25:34,825 --> 00:25:37,161 The family of 844 00:25:34,825 --> 00:25:37,161 my father arrived here 845 00:25:37,161 --> 00:25:40,664 in 1907 from Syria and Iraq. 846 00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:45,127 They arrived 847 00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:45,127 with donkeys to Jerusalem. 848 00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:49,631 My story with food 849 00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:49,631 started when I was 12. 850 00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:52,592 I needed to cook 851 00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:52,592 to my family. 852 00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:56,472 My mother was sick, 853 00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:56,472 and I discovered that 854 00:25:56,472 --> 00:26:00,142 I can do something 855 00:25:56,472 --> 00:26:00,142 wonderful with food. 856 00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:04,230 In '95, I opened Arcadia 857 00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:04,230 in Jerusalem, 858 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:05,939 and the definition 859 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:08,817 of the kitchen was, like, 860 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:08,817 French-Mediterranean, 861 00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:11,611 because I studied with 862 00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:11,611 French chefs in New York, 863 00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:13,739 in San Francisco. 864 00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:18,077 But the story starts with 865 00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:18,077 a cheese that you 866 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:21,747 cannot get in Israel, 867 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:21,747 was parmesan cheese, 868 00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:24,917 because I needed 869 00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:24,917 the cheese for the risotto. 870 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:30,005 And somebody told me, 871 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:30,005 "Listen, go to the mountains, 872 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:33,008 and you will meet 873 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:33,008 Mr. Shai Seltzer." 874 00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:40,933 He gave me 875 00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:40,933 the first cheese that 876 00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:40,933 replaced the parmesan cheese, 877 00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:43,018 and it was from here. 878 00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,104 It was the beginning 879 00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,104 to understand that, 880 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:47,106 you know, everything 881 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:47,106 is around me, 882 00:26:47,106 --> 00:26:49,400 I should use my roots, 883 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,488 I should use my imagination, 884 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,488 I should cook my memories, 885 00:26:54,488 --> 00:26:58,742 and that's the way 886 00:26:54,488 --> 00:26:58,742 to create a local language. 887 00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:01,370 Take 888 00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:01,370 the Middle Eastern spices, 889 00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:04,540 take the Middle East 890 00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:04,540 rhythm, yeah, 891 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:09,336 and try to understand how you 892 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:09,336 create from that your food. 893 00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:15,884 The eggplant that we see 894 00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:15,884 here is also from our roots. 895 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:18,887 So you've got an eggplant 896 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:18,887 here that's charred. 897 00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,515 Seems like where a lot 898 00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,515 of recipes in Israel start, 899 00:27:21,515 --> 00:27:23,058 right, with 900 00:27:21,515 --> 00:27:23,058 a burnt eggplant? 901 00:27:23,058 --> 00:27:25,018 Yeah, and there's 902 00:27:23,058 --> 00:27:25,018 a nice story behind it. 903 00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:27,938 I received 904 00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:27,938 a beautiful, uh, letter. 905 00:27:27,938 --> 00:27:32,485 He invited me to bring 906 00:27:27,938 --> 00:27:32,485 my food to the north of Italy, 907 00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:34,403 and to cook one week. 908 00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:40,909 I said, "I'm going to cook 909 00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:40,909 eggplants, lamb, and wheat." 910 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:44,913 When we arrived, 911 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:44,913 the supplier arrived, 912 00:27:44,913 --> 00:27:48,708 and I saw that the eggplants 913 00:27:44,913 --> 00:27:48,708 were with a little bit water. 914 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:52,630 So apparently, on the way, 915 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:52,630 somebody put it in the freezer, 916 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:57,468 so I told the supplier, 917 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:57,468 "Send it back." 918 00:27:57,468 --> 00:28:01,472 The lady chef 919 00:27:57,468 --> 00:28:01,472 of the place, you know, 920 00:28:01,472 --> 00:28:04,099 she called immediately 921 00:28:01,472 --> 00:28:04,099 the public relations and said, 922 00:28:04,099 --> 00:28:06,435 "Listen, that 923 00:28:04,099 --> 00:28:06,435 Israeli chef is rude. 924 00:28:06,435 --> 00:28:09,980 We order for him especially 925 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:12,899 the eggplants 926 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:12,899 from Rome and Sicily." 927 00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:16,195 So she said, 928 00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:16,195 "You take some money, 929 00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:16,195 you go the villages. 930 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:17,946 You arrange yourself." 931 00:28:17,946 --> 00:28:20,782 We start to roast, 932 00:28:17,946 --> 00:28:20,782 to burn the eggplant. 933 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:23,202 So she called once 934 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:23,202 again the public relations. 935 00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,829 She said, "Listen! 936 00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,829 He is completely mad. 937 00:28:25,829 --> 00:28:28,207 After you gave him money 938 00:28:25,829 --> 00:28:28,207 to buy new eggplants, 939 00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:29,625 he's standing with his cook, 940 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:31,210 and he's burning 941 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:31,210 the eggplants." 942 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,503 That's great. 943 00:28:32,503 --> 00:28:35,755 So that's 944 00:28:32,503 --> 00:28:35,755 the eggplant carpaccio. 945 00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:39,759 And if you take a fork, 946 00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:39,759 yes, and you smash it, 947 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:43,389 at the end of the day, 948 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:43,389 that's the eggplant salad 949 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:45,599 of my mother that 950 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:45,599 I arrange on the plate. 951 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,686 -I'm gonna eat that, 952 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,686 is that okay? 953 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,686 -Eat. Please. 954 00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:57,903 The essence of the Israeli 955 00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:57,903 taste is lemon juice, 956 00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:01,823 olive oil, and the liquids 957 00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:01,823 from the vegetables. 958 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:06,245 This is the taste 959 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:06,245 that you miss after two, 960 00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:07,954 three days when you go abroad, 961 00:29:07,954 --> 00:29:11,208 and you just want to take 962 00:29:07,954 --> 00:29:11,208 a piece of bread and dip it. 963 00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:12,834 But that's the taste. 964 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,378 All right, 965 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,378 so we're going to make 966 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,378 some shakshuka today. 967 00:29:14,378 --> 00:29:15,921 Shakshuka 968 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,797 Erez jump-started 969 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,797 the Israeli food revolution 970 00:29:17,797 --> 00:29:19,883 in the '80s 971 00:29:17,797 --> 00:29:19,883 with his artisanal bread. 972 00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:23,970 Because of him, there's amazing 973 00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:23,970 bread everywhere in Israel. 974 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:29,309 He lives just 800 meters 975 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:29,309 from the Lebanese border. 976 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,439 -You like hot stuff? 977 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,439 -Yeah, I love it. 978 00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:36,692 -Okay, so you're going 979 00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:36,692 to get it. 980 00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:36,692 -Good. Good. 981 00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:38,652 You know, it's 9:00 982 00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:38,652 in the morning. 983 00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:40,195 I should be eating 984 00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:40,195 spicy food by now. 985 00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:41,697 -Exactly. 986 00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:41,697 -So I have a question. 987 00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:45,409 -Shakshuka is 988 00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:45,409 North African, right? 989 00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:45,409 -Yes. 990 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:47,786 It's from Libya, 991 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:47,786 or Morocco? 992 00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:50,914 By now, 993 00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:50,914 shakshuka is one of 994 00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:56,420 the Israeli staples 995 00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:56,420 of breakfast. 996 00:29:56,420 --> 00:30:00,090 Yes. 997 00:29:56,420 --> 00:30:00,090 Is it now Israeli cuisine? 998 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:02,342 I think 999 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:02,342 it is Israeli cuisine. 1000 00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:06,346 Crude and hot 1001 00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:06,346 and lots of olive oil, 1002 00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:11,518 and you eat it with 1003 00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:11,518 the bread, and it's not stuffy. 1004 00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:16,523 We kind of took recipes 1005 00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:16,523 from the Palestinians, 1006 00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:18,858 and from the Turks, 1007 00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:18,858 and from the Bulgarians, 1008 00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:21,361 and we made it our own, 1009 00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:23,572 but it happens all 1010 00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:23,572 over the world, I think. 1011 00:30:23,572 --> 00:30:26,533 It does. It happens all over 1012 00:30:23,572 --> 00:30:26,533 the world with food. 1013 00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:29,202 But, I mean, when you go 1014 00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:29,202 to an Arab restaurant 1015 00:30:29,202 --> 00:30:31,330 around here or you're 1016 00:30:29,202 --> 00:30:31,330 eating Palestinian cuisine, 1017 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,248 in this country, 1018 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,248 is it Israeli food, then? 1019 00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:39,463 I think Israeli 1020 00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:39,463 and Palestinian is one thing. 1021 00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:41,465 Food is not political. 1022 00:30:41,465 --> 00:30:47,012 Food is, eh, what is grown 1023 00:30:41,465 --> 00:30:47,012 on this land by the people 1024 00:30:47,012 --> 00:30:48,639 who are living in it. 1025 00:30:48,639 --> 00:30:50,599 If they're called 1026 00:30:48,639 --> 00:30:50,599 Palestinians or Israelis, 1027 00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:52,518 I don't care. 1028 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:56,104 I don't think the tomato 1029 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:56,104 care if a Palestinian cut it, 1030 00:30:56,104 --> 00:31:00,400 or an Israeli guy cut it, 1031 00:30:56,104 --> 00:31:00,400 it's the same thing. 1032 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,321 I would serve it with 1033 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,321 goat, ricotta, bread, 1034 00:31:04,321 --> 00:31:07,616 and the Palestinian will serve 1035 00:31:04,321 --> 00:31:07,616 it with, eh, pita bread. 1036 00:31:07,616 --> 00:31:09,702 That's the only 1037 00:31:07,616 --> 00:31:09,702 difference. 1038 00:31:09,702 --> 00:31:13,288 -Wow, it's hot. 1039 00:31:09,702 --> 00:31:13,288 -Yeah, it is hot. 1040 00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:15,457 What kind of 1041 00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:15,457 pepper is that? 1042 00:31:15,457 --> 00:31:17,751 Eh, it's, eh... 1043 00:31:17,751 --> 00:31:19,712 I'm glad 1044 00:31:17,751 --> 00:31:19,712 I'm not the only one. 1045 00:31:19,712 --> 00:31:21,630 I've been trying to keep 1046 00:31:19,712 --> 00:31:21,630 myself from crying. 1047 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:23,256 Wow. 1048 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:26,343 Ten years from now, 1049 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:26,343 what is Israeli food? 1050 00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:27,845 Regional, 1051 00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:27,845 regional, regional. 1052 00:31:27,845 --> 00:31:29,638 Big-time regional. 1053 00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:32,057 But Israel is the size 1054 00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:32,057 of, you know, New Jersey. 1055 00:31:32,057 --> 00:31:35,352 How different is the food all 1056 00:31:32,057 --> 00:31:35,352 the way in the south from here? 1057 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:39,022 Very different. 1058 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:39,022 Here, we have mostly goats. 1059 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:41,859 In the south, 1060 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:41,859 we have more sheep. 1061 00:31:41,859 --> 00:31:43,694 The olive oil 1062 00:31:41,859 --> 00:31:43,694 is different. 1063 00:31:43,694 --> 00:31:46,154 The use of lemon 1064 00:31:43,694 --> 00:31:46,154 juice is different. 1065 00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:48,114 The wild herbs 1066 00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:48,114 are different. 1067 00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:50,075 And the people 1068 00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:50,075 are different. 1069 00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,082 There's a huge misconception 1070 00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,082 that this is 1071 00:31:57,082 --> 00:31:59,543 just sort of this country, 1072 00:31:57,082 --> 00:31:59,543 like, in the Middle East. 1073 00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:02,921 There's palm trees 1074 00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:02,921 and sand and whatever. 1075 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:06,425 The regions and the terroir, 1076 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:06,425 from a food perspective, 1077 00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:07,801 are totally different. 1078 00:32:07,801 --> 00:32:10,512 You've got sort of 1079 00:32:07,801 --> 00:32:10,512 hot air in the south, 1080 00:32:10,512 --> 00:32:13,473 and you've got very cold, 1081 00:32:10,512 --> 00:32:13,473 sort of mountainous, 1082 00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:15,267 high elevation in the north. 1083 00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:17,269 You've got people fishing 1084 00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:17,269 in the Mediterranean, 1085 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,479 and we've got people fishing 1086 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,479 every single day 1087 00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:22,023 in the Kinneret, 1088 00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:22,023 in the Sea of Galilee. 1089 00:32:32,284 --> 00:32:36,580 [Avigail Aharon] My father was 1090 00:32:32,284 --> 00:32:36,580 a fisherman in the Kinneret. 1091 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:39,750 When I was a little girl, 1092 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:39,750 we'd go away to the Kinneret 1093 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:44,963 to do fishing 1094 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:44,963 and to make some picnics. 1095 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:47,466 So I love the Kinneret, 1096 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:52,471 and to cook the fruit 1097 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:52,471 of the Kinneret. 1098 00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:55,265 And I cook just local food, 1099 00:32:55,265 --> 00:32:59,144 traditional Tiberianic food 1100 00:32:55,265 --> 00:32:59,144 in my kitchen. 1101 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:03,482 This is the fish 1102 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:03,482 that you caught today, 1103 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,983 -this morning. 1104 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,983 -Mm-hm. Yes. 1105 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:06,777 We're going to make 1106 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:06,777 St. Peter's fish. 1107 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,987 So St. Peter's fish 1108 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,987 is freshwater tilapia here. 1109 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:15,201 Yes. We cook it in a traditional 1110 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:15,201 sauce we make in Tiberias. 1111 00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:23,042 The Galilee is unique-- 1112 00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:23,042 the fish and the Arab influence 1113 00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:25,253 that live in the area. 1114 00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,422 So if somebody 1115 00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,422 that grew up here was Arab 1116 00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:29,299 and Muslim, not Jewish, 1117 00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:29,299 and they ate this food, 1118 00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:31,718 would this remind them 1119 00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:31,718 of what they grew up with? 1120 00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:33,261 Yes. Yes, of course. 1121 00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:35,472 The Christian, the Muslim, 1122 00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:35,472 and the Jewish, 1123 00:33:35,472 --> 00:33:37,223 they make dinners together 1124 00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:40,644 so everybody learn 1125 00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:40,644 from another. 1126 00:33:40,644 --> 00:33:42,771 You put the fish inside. 1127 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:46,650 Cool. Now the fish 1128 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:46,650 is already cooked. 1129 00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:48,777 Yes, it already 1130 00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:48,777 cooks a few minutes, 1131 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:51,363 -and it's ready. 1132 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:51,363 -Great. 1133 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:54,574 [Ronit Vered] 1134 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:54,574 In the last 20 years, 1135 00:33:54,574 --> 00:33:57,619 with everything that is 1136 00:33:54,574 --> 00:33:57,619 going on around us, suddenly, 1137 00:33:57,619 --> 00:34:01,414 local chefs, Jewish chefs, from 1138 00:33:57,619 --> 00:34:01,414 Jewish origin, started to look, 1139 00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:04,083 and to discover 1140 00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:04,083 the Palestinian cuisine. 1141 00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:06,879 Fish of Galilee 1142 00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:06,879 you eat with your hands. 1143 00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:10,048 Perfect. I have two of 1144 00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:10,048 those, so I'm good, right? 1145 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:13,092 [Offaim] At one point 1146 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:13,092 in the mid-'90s, 1147 00:34:13,092 --> 00:34:15,929 this entire country 1148 00:34:13,092 --> 00:34:15,929 and this entire area 1149 00:34:15,929 --> 00:34:20,141 called the Middle East, 1150 00:34:15,929 --> 00:34:20,141 was in huge hope for change. 1151 00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:23,186 The peace process 1152 00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:23,186 was at its peak, 1153 00:34:23,186 --> 00:34:25,856 Rabin, our prime minister, 1154 00:34:23,186 --> 00:34:25,856 had not been murdered yet, 1155 00:34:25,856 --> 00:34:28,358 and everybody was 1156 00:34:25,856 --> 00:34:28,358 hoping for peace. 1157 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:32,320 All of a sudden, Arab 1158 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:32,320 restaurants started flourishing. 1159 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,492 And Jews went to visit 1160 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,492 their Arab neighbors, 1161 00:34:37,492 --> 00:34:39,118 and when I say neighbors, 1162 00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:41,246 I mean neighbors, 1163 00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:41,246 across the road, 1164 00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:44,833 whose food they've never 1165 00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:44,833 really tasted, and said, 1166 00:34:44,833 --> 00:34:48,127 "What are you eating at home? 1167 00:34:44,833 --> 00:34:48,127 What do you guys eat? 1168 00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:51,172 Not where the tourists eat, 1169 00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:51,172 where do the locals eat?" 1170 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:53,926 And we've discovered 1171 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:53,926 this incredible Palestinian 1172 00:34:53,926 --> 00:34:56,219 and Arabic kitchen. 1173 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:03,142 -How are you? 1174 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:03,142 -I'm good. I'm good. 1175 00:35:03,142 --> 00:35:04,644 I'm so happy 1176 00:35:03,142 --> 00:35:04,644 to eat some of this. 1177 00:35:04,644 --> 00:35:06,063 -Thank you. 1178 00:35:04,644 --> 00:35:06,063 -What are we making? 1179 00:35:06,063 --> 00:35:08,314 We are making 1180 00:35:06,063 --> 00:35:08,314 Palestinian food. 1181 00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:13,152 -Some keves? Some lamb. 1182 00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:13,152 -Yes, keves. 1183 00:35:13,152 --> 00:35:14,654 -Lamb. 1184 00:35:13,152 --> 00:35:14,654 -100-- It's all lamb. 1185 00:35:14,654 --> 00:35:18,450 -Just lamb. 1186 00:35:14,654 --> 00:35:18,450 -Just lamb. A lotta fat, eh? 1187 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,161 So how many Jews 1188 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,161 come to El Babor? 1189 00:35:22,161 --> 00:35:25,874 Here in El Babor, 1190 00:35:22,161 --> 00:35:25,874 here in the Umm al-Fahm, 1191 00:35:25,874 --> 00:35:30,378 it's, like, about 50-50 Arabic 1192 00:35:25,874 --> 00:35:30,378 and 50 Jewish. 1193 00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:35,341 [exclaiming] 1194 00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:37,970 So right now, you're putting 1195 00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:37,970 the kebabs on cinnamon sticks. 1196 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:39,805 -Yes. 1197 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:39,805 -Amazing. 1198 00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:44,101 [in Hebrew] If someone 1199 00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:44,101 says Palestinian food 1200 00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:44,101 and Israeli food, 1201 00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:46,478 what do you think 1202 00:35:44,101 --> 00:35:46,478 about that? 1203 00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:48,313 [in Hebrew] 1204 00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:48,313 The food is Palestinian. 1205 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:53,234 This food came 1206 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:53,234 before I was born, 1207 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:53,234 before my father was born. 1208 00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:57,405 These recipes are 1209 00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:57,405 hundreds of years old. 1210 00:35:57,405 --> 00:35:58,991 [in English] 1211 00:35:57,405 --> 00:35:58,991 Food makes peace. 1212 00:35:58,991 --> 00:36:01,118 If you come to eat with me, 1213 00:36:01,118 --> 00:36:05,622 and if you come 1214 00:36:01,118 --> 00:36:05,622 to learn my food, 1215 00:36:05,622 --> 00:36:09,042 maybe it's going to 1216 00:36:05,622 --> 00:36:09,042 bring us all together. 1217 00:36:10,085 --> 00:36:11,962 That is our famous kebab. 1218 00:36:11,962 --> 00:36:13,964 We call that Kebab El Babor. 1219 00:36:18,217 --> 00:36:19,845 Great. 1220 00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:27,226 -Oh, my gosh. 1221 00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:27,226 -You can taste it. 1222 00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,895 Yeah, it's amazing. 1223 00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,895 The cinnamon is-- 1224 00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:31,148 -Be careful. This is hot. 1225 00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:31,148 -It's very hot, huh? 1226 00:36:42,575 --> 00:36:44,036 It was a great time, 1227 00:36:44,036 --> 00:36:48,707 and then, the peace process, 1228 00:36:44,036 --> 00:36:48,707 unfortunately, 1229 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,335 had gone into 1230 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,335 a very deep slope, 1231 00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:54,880 and those celebrity chefs, 1232 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,674 and celebrity restaurants 1233 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,674 opened by Palestinians 1234 00:36:57,674 --> 00:36:59,051 were put aside a bit. 1235 00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:03,138 Everything has 1236 00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:03,138 to do with politics. 1237 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:10,436 [in Arabic] In 2000, there 1238 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:10,436 was another intifada here, 1239 00:37:10,436 --> 00:37:13,314 and the restaurants 1240 00:37:10,436 --> 00:37:13,314 constantly suffered. 1241 00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:14,983 Even today I'm suffering. 1242 00:37:14,983 --> 00:37:17,402 Now, in Arab restaurants, 1243 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:21,322 every little political 1244 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:21,322 event that happens, 1245 00:37:21,322 --> 00:37:23,700 the Jews stop coming. 1246 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:28,163 Whenever you talk about 1247 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:28,163 Israeli food in the world, 1248 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:31,124 people immediately will start 1249 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:31,124 talking about the conflict. 1250 00:37:31,124 --> 00:37:33,877 It makes the whole thing 1251 00:37:31,124 --> 00:37:33,877 much less marketable, 1252 00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:37,089 and every time 1253 00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:37,089 you approach it, 1254 00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:37,089 it turns into a debate. 1255 00:37:37,089 --> 00:37:41,009 And I truly believe that the way 1256 00:37:37,089 --> 00:37:41,009 to resolve that debate, 1257 00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:45,013 or maybe to help, 1258 00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:45,013 to negotiate, is through food. 1259 00:37:45,013 --> 00:37:48,058 [distant conversation] 1260 00:37:48,058 --> 00:37:50,852 [Solomonov] 1261 00:37:48,058 --> 00:37:50,852 It's tough to get a restaurant 1262 00:37:48,058 --> 00:37:50,852 off the ground anywhere. 1263 00:37:50,852 --> 00:37:54,439 If you're 1264 00:37:50,852 --> 00:37:54,439 a Palestinian in Israel, 1265 00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:55,941 it's even harder. 1266 00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:57,567 What are the challenges 1267 00:37:57,567 --> 00:38:00,028 of a Palestinian chef 1268 00:37:57,567 --> 00:38:00,028 in this country? 1269 00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:02,781 It's really hard to be 1270 00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:02,781 an Arabic chef 1271 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:06,159 that you can shine your name 1272 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:06,159 over your restaurant. 1273 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,661 You worked 1274 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,661 for Jewish Israelis, 1275 00:38:08,661 --> 00:38:11,581 and it was not 1276 00:38:08,661 --> 00:38:11,581 an issue, right? 1277 00:38:11,581 --> 00:38:13,583 It was an issue, 1278 00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:17,212 but I never feel it 1279 00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:17,212 between my circle of 1280 00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:17,212 people that I work with. 1281 00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:21,758 But maybe the outside market, 1282 00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:21,758 we will see it, yeah. 1283 00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:25,845 When you 1284 00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:25,845 are gonna be researching 1285 00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:28,598 or trying menu items, 1286 00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:28,598 do you start here? 1287 00:38:28,598 --> 00:38:30,642 I mean, in this kitchen? 1288 00:38:28,598 --> 00:38:30,642 Is this where it starts? 1289 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:34,646 Actually, the whole idea 1290 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:34,646 for me of cooking, 1291 00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:38,066 it starts from my mother's 1292 00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:38,066 and grandmother's kitchen. 1293 00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:41,444 My mother is going to make for 1294 00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:41,444 us today maqluba for dinner. 1295 00:38:41,444 --> 00:38:44,447 In English, 1296 00:38:41,444 --> 00:38:44,447 that means "upside down." 1297 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:49,286 We cook it with chicken, 1298 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:49,286 rice, and different types 1299 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:49,286 of vegetables. 1300 00:38:49,286 --> 00:38:52,664 And we just turn it 1301 00:38:49,286 --> 00:38:52,664 upside down, and then we 1302 00:38:49,286 --> 00:38:52,664 have it for lunch. 1303 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:56,251 -How long has she been 1304 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:56,251 making this maqluba? 1305 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:56,251 -[speaks Hebrew] 1306 00:38:56,251 --> 00:38:58,086 -[Kamel] Thirty-two years. 1307 00:38:56,251 --> 00:38:58,086 -[Solomonov] Thirty-two years. 1308 00:38:58,086 --> 00:39:00,255 Thirty-two years 1309 00:38:58,086 --> 00:39:00,255 she's been making it. 1310 00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:02,381 And how long have you 1311 00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:02,381 eaten the maqluba? 1312 00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:02,381 How old are you? 1313 00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:04,425 I'm thirty-three. 1314 00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,719 One year! 1315 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,514 So I will help her 1316 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,514 with removing the chicken. 1317 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,017 I can smell a lot of spices 1318 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,017 on the chicken. 1319 00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:17,605 There is kurkum, 1320 00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:17,605 there is turmeric, 1321 00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:17,605 also cinnamon. 1322 00:39:17,605 --> 00:39:18,731 Cinnamon. 1323 00:39:18,731 --> 00:39:20,608 She's going to make it 1324 00:39:18,731 --> 00:39:20,608 as layers. 1325 00:39:20,608 --> 00:39:23,195 She put the chicken 1326 00:39:20,608 --> 00:39:23,195 in the bottom of the pot. 1327 00:39:27,324 --> 00:39:29,450 It smells so, so good. 1328 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:31,036 And the kurkum, 1329 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:31,036 the way the turmeric 1330 00:39:31,036 --> 00:39:33,746 stains the rice 1331 00:39:31,036 --> 00:39:33,746 is fantastic. 1332 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:36,708 How does she feel about you 1333 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:36,708 being a chef and that you're 1334 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:36,708 cooking this food? 1335 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:40,670 She don't like me to be 1336 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:40,670 in her kitchen a lot. 1337 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:45,217 I know, she's, like, 1338 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:45,217 maybe you'll find a wife 1339 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:45,217 that's a doctor, right? 1340 00:39:45,217 --> 00:39:49,221 Now, Mike, this is 1341 00:39:45,217 --> 00:39:49,221 the most dangerous 1342 00:39:45,217 --> 00:39:49,221 and interesting part. 1343 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:51,848 I love that, 1344 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:51,848 I love danger. 1345 00:39:51,848 --> 00:39:53,141 This is where 1346 00:39:51,848 --> 00:39:53,141 we turn it over. 1347 00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:54,517 Can I help you out? 1348 00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:58,271 No, I prefer to do it 1349 00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:58,271 on my own, it's better. 1350 00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:05,153 I had my fingers crossed. 1351 00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:11,617 Oh, look at that. 1352 00:40:11,617 --> 00:40:13,203 Money! 1353 00:40:13,203 --> 00:40:14,787 Clean. 1354 00:40:19,376 --> 00:40:21,086 [Vered] In a way, 1355 00:40:19,376 --> 00:40:21,086 in the kitchen, 1356 00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:24,005 we want to be Arabs, 1357 00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:24,005 we want to be local, 1358 00:40:24,005 --> 00:40:26,424 we want to use 1359 00:40:24,005 --> 00:40:26,424 local ingredients. 1360 00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:30,178 We want to cook things that 1361 00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:30,178 are appropriate for this place. 1362 00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:33,556 [Jur] We looked 1363 00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:33,556 for inspiration 1364 00:40:33,556 --> 00:40:35,225 to our Arabic neighbors. 1365 00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:37,685 That's where our fascination 1366 00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:37,685 with hummus starts. 1367 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:41,106 That's where we learned 1368 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:41,106 to make our chopped salad, 1369 00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:44,150 which we now call 1370 00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:44,150 Israeli salad. 1371 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:46,403 Israeli salad's 1372 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:46,403 actually Arabic salad. 1373 00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:50,323 On the menus 1374 00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:50,323 of most restaurants, 1375 00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:52,284 it's still listed 1376 00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:52,284 as Arabic salad. 1377 00:40:52,284 --> 00:40:54,244 You have it throughout 1378 00:40:52,284 --> 00:40:54,244 the Middle East. 1379 00:40:54,244 --> 00:40:57,122 It's basically chopped salad 1380 00:40:54,244 --> 00:40:57,122 of cucumber, tomatoes, 1381 00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:59,582 onions, peppers, 1382 00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:59,582 and thymes, 1383 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:00,959 simply dressed 1384 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:00,959 with olive oil, 1385 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,586 lemon juice, 1386 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,586 and salt and pepper. 1387 00:41:03,586 --> 00:41:06,214 What makes it Israeli is 1388 00:41:03,586 --> 00:41:06,214 the way we use the salad, 1389 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:09,508 because we may have learned 1390 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:09,508 it from our Arab neighbors, 1391 00:41:09,508 --> 00:41:11,428 but they don't have 1392 00:41:09,508 --> 00:41:11,428 salad for breakfast. 1393 00:41:11,428 --> 00:41:14,472 We do, and we also 1394 00:41:11,428 --> 00:41:14,472 have it for lunch, 1395 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,099 and we also 1396 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,099 have it for dinner, 1397 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:17,976 and we stuff it in 1398 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:17,976 the pita with schnitzel, 1399 00:41:17,976 --> 00:41:20,979 and chips and French fries. 1400 00:41:20,979 --> 00:41:23,564 The Palestinians 1401 00:41:20,979 --> 00:41:23,564 don't really like to think 1402 00:41:23,564 --> 00:41:25,817 that Israeli cuisine 1403 00:41:23,564 --> 00:41:25,817 takes a lot of things 1404 00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:29,321 from their heritage, 1405 00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:29,321 from the local things. 1406 00:41:29,321 --> 00:41:32,198 They often accuse 1407 00:41:29,321 --> 00:41:32,198 us of stealing it, 1408 00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:34,742 something I can understand. 1409 00:41:34,742 --> 00:41:37,245 If you ask me, talking 1410 00:41:34,742 --> 00:41:37,245 about stealing 1411 00:41:37,245 --> 00:41:39,622 when it comes to kitchen 1412 00:41:37,245 --> 00:41:39,622 is not the right term. 1413 00:41:39,622 --> 00:41:42,083 You know, the beautiful 1414 00:41:39,622 --> 00:41:42,083 thing about kitchens 1415 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:43,918 and the culture of food, 1416 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:46,671 even before the globalization 1417 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:46,671 of the modern world, 1418 00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:48,423 ingredients and techniques 1419 00:41:48,423 --> 00:41:50,549 and dishes travel, 1420 00:41:48,423 --> 00:41:50,549 and that's the beauty of it. 1421 00:41:50,549 --> 00:41:52,051 But I completely 1422 00:41:50,549 --> 00:41:52,051 understand, 1423 00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:54,429 in light 1424 00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:54,429 of the political issues, 1425 00:41:54,429 --> 00:41:56,139 why they accuse 1426 00:41:54,429 --> 00:41:56,139 us of stealing, 1427 00:41:56,139 --> 00:41:57,849 and why they are 1428 00:41:56,139 --> 00:41:57,849 so touchy about it, 1429 00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:59,892 and why they 1430 00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:59,892 feel like this. 1431 00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:02,228 [in Arabic] There was arrogance 1432 00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:02,228 among the Jews 1433 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:05,357 in relation 1434 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:05,357 to Arab cuisine. 1435 00:42:05,357 --> 00:42:11,446 "What is that, anyway? 1436 00:42:05,357 --> 00:42:11,446 The Arab kitchen is nothing." 1437 00:42:11,446 --> 00:42:17,785 That was the arrogance 1438 00:42:11,446 --> 00:42:17,785 in the '60s, '70s, 1439 00:42:11,446 --> 00:42:17,785 even the '80s. 1440 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,833 The falafel is ours, 1441 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,833 the maqluba is ours, 1442 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,833 the hummus is ours. 1443 00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:25,877 What do you have? 1444 00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:25,877 Where is it from? 1445 00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:27,628 Where is your maqluba from? 1446 00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:30,006 Where is your hummus from? 1447 00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:30,006 From where? 1448 00:42:30,006 --> 00:42:32,925 Where is the kitchen that 1449 00:42:30,006 --> 00:42:32,925 you call the Israeli kitchen? 1450 00:42:32,925 --> 00:42:34,511 Where is it? 1451 00:42:34,511 --> 00:42:37,180 Let's create an Israeli 1452 00:42:34,511 --> 00:42:37,180 kitchen together! Come! 1453 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:42,227 Take those raw ingredients 1454 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:42,227 and make what you want. 1455 00:42:42,227 --> 00:42:45,730 Come! Let's join hands 1456 00:42:42,227 --> 00:42:45,730 and work together! 1457 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:50,735 We say that food 1458 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:50,735 brings hearts together, 1459 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:50,735 but you don't want to. 1460 00:42:52,778 --> 00:42:55,073 We try here 1461 00:42:52,778 --> 00:42:55,073 to collaborate 1462 00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:57,616 with Arab chefs, 1463 00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:57,616 Palestinian chefs, 1464 00:42:57,616 --> 00:43:01,246 and create a new language 1465 00:42:57,616 --> 00:43:01,246 through our food 1466 00:42:57,616 --> 00:43:01,246 in the restaurant, 1467 00:43:01,246 --> 00:43:03,540 and maybe 1468 00:43:01,246 --> 00:43:03,540 to grow from there. 1469 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:06,376 But it's only the beginning, 1470 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:06,376 and we have a long way to go. 1471 00:43:06,376 --> 00:43:08,336 Is it going 1472 00:43:06,376 --> 00:43:08,336 to happen in your lifetime? 1473 00:43:09,754 --> 00:43:11,923 Probably not. No. 1474 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:29,107 I think that 1475 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:29,107 what you find in Israelis 1476 00:43:29,107 --> 00:43:33,778 is an amazing mixture 1477 00:43:29,107 --> 00:43:33,778 of sweetness, 1478 00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:37,240 and... and brutality. 1479 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,325 Now this is why 1480 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,325 we are called sabras. 1481 00:43:39,325 --> 00:43:42,745 The idea of the sabra fruit, 1482 00:43:39,325 --> 00:43:42,745 of the prickly pear, 1483 00:43:42,745 --> 00:43:45,206 is that from the outside, 1484 00:43:42,745 --> 00:43:45,206 it can kill you, 1485 00:43:45,206 --> 00:43:47,250 because it has these thorns 1486 00:43:45,206 --> 00:43:47,250 that are really, 1487 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,835 really, really painful 1488 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,835 when you meet them. 1489 00:43:57,427 --> 00:44:01,514 But from the inside, 1490 00:43:57,427 --> 00:44:01,514 it's colorful and sweet, 1491 00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:06,478 and I do think 1492 00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:06,478 that this combination 1493 00:44:06,478 --> 00:44:08,896 is very true and very right. 1494 00:44:13,151 --> 00:44:14,902 [Rousso] You don't 1495 00:44:13,151 --> 00:44:14,902 take life for granted. 1496 00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:18,323 Living in Israel, you 1497 00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:18,323 can't take life for granted. 1498 00:44:18,323 --> 00:44:23,911 It's been on risk since I was 1499 00:44:18,323 --> 00:44:23,911 born, since Israel was born. 1500 00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:27,332 For example, I used to work 1501 00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:27,332 in the center of Tel Aviv 1502 00:44:27,332 --> 00:44:30,543 when I was 18, during 1503 00:44:27,332 --> 00:44:30,543 all the terrorist attacks, 1504 00:44:30,543 --> 00:44:33,338 and I just missed a bus. 1505 00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:36,549 I missed so many bombs, 1506 00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:36,549 I was supposed to be there. 1507 00:44:36,549 --> 00:44:38,468 Every Israeli will 1508 00:44:36,549 --> 00:44:38,468 tell you that. 1509 00:44:38,468 --> 00:44:42,514 There is 1510 00:44:38,468 --> 00:44:42,514 no tomorrow in Israel. 1511 00:44:42,514 --> 00:44:44,056 There is no tomorrow. 1512 00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,810 People cannot plan even 1513 00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,810 for one year ahead. 1514 00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:51,897 They feel that if they 1515 00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:51,897 will not do it right now, 1516 00:44:51,897 --> 00:44:55,692 then it will exist 1517 00:44:51,897 --> 00:44:55,692 in that moment, 1518 00:44:55,692 --> 00:44:58,821 it will not be. 1519 00:44:58,821 --> 00:45:03,159 In other countries, 1520 00:44:58,821 --> 00:45:03,159 they're thinking about 1521 00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,911 the days that 1522 00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,911 they will be old. 1523 00:45:05,911 --> 00:45:11,626 Here, you cannot imagine 1524 00:45:05,911 --> 00:45:11,626 that you will be old. 1525 00:45:18,966 --> 00:45:22,387 We're on the border 1526 00:45:18,966 --> 00:45:22,387 of Lebanon in the north. 1527 00:45:22,387 --> 00:45:27,559 This is the site of 1528 00:45:22,387 --> 00:45:27,559 my brother's death. 1529 00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:31,604 He was a 21-year-old kid. 1530 00:45:31,604 --> 00:45:34,815 My brother was 1531 00:45:31,604 --> 00:45:34,815 in the military. 1532 00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:37,109 He was inside of Israel 1533 00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:37,109 defending a border, 1534 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:40,321 and was shot, 1535 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:40,321 and died doing that. 1536 00:45:40,321 --> 00:45:43,700 And it happened to be 1537 00:45:40,321 --> 00:45:43,700 three days before his release. 1538 00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:45,660 It happened to be 1539 00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:45,660 on Yom Kippur, 1540 00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:48,162 when we're all taught that 1541 00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:48,162 God closes the Book of Life. 1542 00:45:50,206 --> 00:45:52,667 It's important for 1543 00:45:50,206 --> 00:45:52,667 my family to be here, 1544 00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:55,545 because it's the ten-year 1545 00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:55,545 anniversary of his death. 1546 00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:59,215 I've got a son now named 1547 00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:59,215 after my brother, David, 1548 00:45:59,215 --> 00:46:02,176 and I've got a wife, 1549 00:46:02,176 --> 00:46:05,555 and we've got 1550 00:46:02,176 --> 00:46:05,555 friends of Dave's, 1551 00:46:05,555 --> 00:46:07,348 and friends of mine, 1552 00:46:07,348 --> 00:46:09,850 and I think that this 1553 00:46:07,348 --> 00:46:09,850 is a special place. 1554 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:13,271 I think that, 1555 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:13,271 subconsciously, 1556 00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:16,107 I started cooking 1557 00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:16,107 more Israeli cuisine, 1558 00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:19,611 or using Israeli influences, 1559 00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:19,611 and some people might even say 1560 00:46:19,611 --> 00:46:22,488 Yemenite influences, 1561 00:46:19,611 --> 00:46:22,488 Sephardic influences. 1562 00:46:22,488 --> 00:46:26,576 It wasn't, like, 1563 00:46:22,488 --> 00:46:26,576 abruptly Israeli. 1564 00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:28,494 I wasn't making, 1565 00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:28,494 like, chopped salad, 1566 00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:31,122 or doing Israeli breakfast 1567 00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:31,122 or anything like that, 1568 00:46:31,122 --> 00:46:34,667 but things started to end up 1569 00:46:31,122 --> 00:46:34,667 on the menu that were things 1570 00:46:34,667 --> 00:46:38,921 that I loved 1571 00:46:34,667 --> 00:46:38,921 here and ate here. 1572 00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,721 And in my restaurant... 1573 00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:53,185 we made a case, I think, 1574 00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:53,185 for Israel through food. 1575 00:47:24,801 --> 00:47:27,052 [man] We are in Ein Rafa. 1576 00:47:24,801 --> 00:47:27,052 It's a very small village. 1577 00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:31,015 It's about 900 people, 1578 00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:31,015 Muslim. 1579 00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:32,141 One Jewish. 1580 00:47:32,141 --> 00:47:34,268 The only 1581 00:47:32,141 --> 00:47:34,268 Jewish woman here. 1582 00:47:34,268 --> 00:47:36,228 You have, like, 1583 00:47:34,268 --> 00:47:36,228 two Jewish people now. 1584 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,773 And we didn't marry, 1585 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,773 of course, until now. 1586 00:47:38,773 --> 00:47:41,693 We've lived together 1587 00:47:38,773 --> 00:47:41,693 for 18 years. 1588 00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:44,903 Of course, 1589 00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:44,903 their parents was so upset 1590 00:47:44,903 --> 00:47:48,616 because it's-- she has to be 1591 00:47:44,903 --> 00:47:48,616 Muslim, I have to be Jewish. 1592 00:47:48,616 --> 00:47:52,161 When the children came, 1593 00:47:48,616 --> 00:47:52,161 they said, "Okay." That's it. 1594 00:47:52,161 --> 00:47:54,497 Children 1595 00:47:52,161 --> 00:47:54,497 make peace with everybody. 1596 00:47:54,497 --> 00:47:58,710 My mother told me stories 1597 00:47:54,497 --> 00:47:58,710 about Morocco, 1598 00:47:58,710 --> 00:48:01,587 that she 1599 00:47:58,710 --> 00:48:01,587 lived next to Arabs. 1600 00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:06,175 They were best friends. 1601 00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:06,175 And it was different. 1602 00:48:06,175 --> 00:48:08,636 But here, it's... 1603 00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,887 I meet Jewish all the time 1604 00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,887 because we work in the hotel, 1605 00:48:10,887 --> 00:48:13,015 kibbutzim, 1606 00:48:10,887 --> 00:48:13,015 Katsubah and Ketanavim 1607 00:48:13,015 --> 00:48:15,518 and Jerusalem, 1608 00:48:13,015 --> 00:48:15,518 so we know what is Jewish. 1609 00:48:15,518 --> 00:48:18,270 So it was easy for me 1610 00:48:15,518 --> 00:48:18,270 to meet Michal. 1611 00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:21,315 It's normal, 1612 00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:21,315 not so difficult. 1613 00:48:21,315 --> 00:48:23,568 When I came to Jerusalem, 1614 00:48:23,568 --> 00:48:25,319 it was after army, 1615 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:29,031 in the army, and I've 1616 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:29,031 been all over Gaza. 1617 00:48:29,031 --> 00:48:31,116 I was a paramedic. 1618 00:48:31,116 --> 00:48:34,328 And I know Arab 1619 00:48:31,116 --> 00:48:34,328 just at war, you know? 1620 00:48:34,328 --> 00:48:37,832 But I came to Jerusalem, 1621 00:48:34,328 --> 00:48:37,832 and I started to hear 1622 00:48:34,328 --> 00:48:37,832 the language. 1623 00:48:37,832 --> 00:48:40,251 And I started to work with 1624 00:48:40,251 --> 00:48:44,046 students from this village, 1625 00:48:40,251 --> 00:48:44,046 and they really hug me. 1626 00:48:44,046 --> 00:48:48,843 It was like, you know, wow! 1627 00:48:44,046 --> 00:48:48,843 It was different. 1628 00:48:48,843 --> 00:48:52,471 The first meal that 1629 00:48:48,843 --> 00:48:52,471 I ate in this village, 1630 00:48:48,843 --> 00:48:52,471 it was amazing. 1631 00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:56,016 This was the first time 1632 00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:56,016 that I ate Arabic food. 1633 00:48:56,016 --> 00:48:59,729 Labneh, olive oil-- 1634 00:48:56,016 --> 00:48:59,729 I will never forget it. 1635 00:48:59,729 --> 00:49:03,816 A bread that her mother, 1636 00:48:59,729 --> 00:49:03,816 laffa that her mother made. 1637 00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:06,943 Tomatoes. 1638 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,701 Melafefon-- 1639 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,701 cucumbers, that's it. 1640 00:49:13,701 --> 00:49:16,203 And I was like, wow. 1641 00:49:16,203 --> 00:49:19,081 How do you go 1642 00:49:16,203 --> 00:49:19,081 from that experience 1643 00:49:19,081 --> 00:49:22,126 to what you do now? 1644 00:49:22,126 --> 00:49:26,881 I understood that 1645 00:49:22,126 --> 00:49:26,881 it's supposed to be 1646 00:49:22,126 --> 00:49:26,881 very simple and fresh. 1647 00:49:26,881 --> 00:49:31,803 And we need to make everything, 1648 00:49:26,881 --> 00:49:31,803 and we need to grow everything. 1649 00:49:31,803 --> 00:49:34,179 Because this 1650 00:49:31,803 --> 00:49:34,179 is the connection. 1651 00:49:34,179 --> 00:49:35,723 This is the difference. 1652 00:49:38,643 --> 00:49:41,186 It was very difficult 1653 00:49:38,643 --> 00:49:41,186 in the beginning 1654 00:49:41,186 --> 00:49:43,439 because when people came, 1655 00:49:43,439 --> 00:49:46,358 they asked, "This is 1656 00:49:43,439 --> 00:49:46,358 an Arab restaurant?" 1657 00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:49,069 And I was, you know, 1658 00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:49,069 standing like this. 1659 00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:51,864 "I don't know. Let's roll." 1660 00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:51,864 You know? 1661 00:49:51,864 --> 00:49:54,116 And they said, "Okay, 1662 00:49:51,864 --> 00:49:54,116 where is the hummus?" 1663 00:49:54,116 --> 00:49:56,661 -"Where is falafel?" 1664 00:49:54,116 --> 00:49:56,661 -"I don't have hummus, honey." 1665 00:49:56,661 --> 00:50:00,205 "Where is the shish kabab? 1666 00:49:56,661 --> 00:50:00,205 Where is the hummus?" 1667 00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:04,961 And we always explain 1668 00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:04,961 "Arab food, it's not 1669 00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:04,961 only hummus." 1670 00:50:04,961 --> 00:50:08,130 When they asked me, 1671 00:50:04,961 --> 00:50:08,130 "What is your food?" 1672 00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:11,801 I said, "Really, 1673 00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:11,801 really, this is me." 1674 00:50:11,801 --> 00:50:18,056 Where I come from, 1675 00:50:11,801 --> 00:50:18,056 my Moroccan, you know, 1676 00:50:11,801 --> 00:50:18,056 my mother, what she made, 1677 00:50:18,056 --> 00:50:22,394 what my father made, 1678 00:50:18,056 --> 00:50:22,394 and Yacob and his mother made. 1679 00:50:22,394 --> 00:50:24,313 Do you get 1680 00:50:22,394 --> 00:50:24,313 to learn from his mother? 1681 00:50:24,313 --> 00:50:26,022 Yes, they send us 1682 00:50:24,313 --> 00:50:26,022 food sometimes. 1683 00:50:26,022 --> 00:50:31,278 You cook what you eat 1684 00:50:26,022 --> 00:50:31,278 and you breathe and you see. 1685 00:50:31,278 --> 00:50:33,238 You can look on my plate 1686 00:50:33,238 --> 00:50:37,201 and you can taste the... 1687 00:50:33,238 --> 00:50:37,201 what is Michal, you know? 1688 00:50:37,201 --> 00:50:39,871 This is what I know to do. 1689 00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:52,591 [Ruth Baks] 1690 00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:52,591 Israeli food is evolving 1691 00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:52,591 because of the people here, 1692 00:50:52,591 --> 00:50:55,177 because you can't separate 1693 00:50:52,591 --> 00:50:55,177 the land of Israel 1694 00:50:55,177 --> 00:50:57,388 from the people of Israel. 1695 00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,640 Only in Israel you're 1696 00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,640 gonna find a Moroccan Jew 1697 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,517 marrying a Polish Jew, 1698 00:51:01,517 --> 00:51:04,144 or a Russian 1699 00:51:01,517 --> 00:51:04,144 marrying a Hungarian, 1700 00:51:04,144 --> 00:51:06,856 or an American 1701 00:51:04,144 --> 00:51:06,856 married an Iraqi. 1702 00:51:06,856 --> 00:51:08,858 So do they serve 1703 00:51:06,856 --> 00:51:08,858 gefilte fish, 1704 00:51:08,858 --> 00:51:10,484 or do they serve chraime 1705 00:51:08,858 --> 00:51:10,484 on Friday night? 1706 00:51:10,484 --> 00:51:12,236 chraime = fish stew 1707 00:51:12,236 --> 00:51:14,321 Hopefully, hopefully, chraime. 1708 00:51:12,236 --> 00:51:14,321 I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. 1709 00:51:14,321 --> 00:51:17,408 You're saying, 1710 00:51:14,321 --> 00:51:17,408 but there is a... 1711 00:51:19,117 --> 00:51:21,495 What happens 1712 00:51:19,117 --> 00:51:21,495 in those kitchens? 1713 00:51:46,395 --> 00:51:48,940 So tell me about yourself. 1714 00:51:46,395 --> 00:51:48,940 Where are you from? 1715 00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:53,736 I grew up 1716 00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:53,736 in south of Tel Aviv. 1717 00:51:53,736 --> 00:51:55,988 The people there 1718 00:51:53,736 --> 00:51:55,988 were from all over, 1719 00:51:55,988 --> 00:52:00,910 like Bulgaria 1720 00:51:55,988 --> 00:52:00,910 and Turkey, Ashkenaz. 1721 00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:04,288 So basically, 1722 00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:04,288 there are two Jewish heritages: 1723 00:52:04,288 --> 00:52:06,582 Sephardic and Ashkenazi. 1724 00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:09,919 Sephardic Jews come from 1725 00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:09,919 Spain, North Africa, 1726 00:52:09,919 --> 00:52:11,378 and the Middle East. 1727 00:52:12,964 --> 00:52:15,382 Ashkenazi Jews are from 1728 00:52:12,964 --> 00:52:15,382 Germany, Russia, Poland, 1729 00:52:15,382 --> 00:52:17,593 and the rest of 1730 00:52:15,382 --> 00:52:17,593 Eastern Europe. 1731 00:52:17,593 --> 00:52:22,389 And the neighborhood, 1732 00:52:17,593 --> 00:52:22,389 it was open space for everyone. 1733 00:52:22,389 --> 00:52:26,060 I mean, I could 1734 00:52:22,389 --> 00:52:26,060 come from school, 1735 00:52:26,060 --> 00:52:30,856 and go to eat with 1736 00:52:26,060 --> 00:52:30,856 my neighbor in his place. 1737 00:52:30,856 --> 00:52:34,192 It wasn't a big issue. 1738 00:52:34,192 --> 00:52:38,030 You just walk in 1739 00:52:34,192 --> 00:52:38,030 and sit and eat. 1740 00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:41,993 So I think I got experience 1741 00:52:41,993 --> 00:52:45,788 with a lot of taste of 1742 00:52:41,993 --> 00:52:45,788 kitchens of all over, 1743 00:52:45,788 --> 00:52:49,917 but my mother, for me, 1744 00:52:45,788 --> 00:52:49,917 is the cooking school. 1745 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:55,589 My mother originally, she's from 1746 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:55,589 the border of Turkey and Syria. 1747 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:58,759 When she was 1748 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:58,759 nine years old, 1749 00:52:58,759 --> 00:53:03,555 an Ashkenaz woman asked her 1750 00:52:58,759 --> 00:53:03,555 if she want to work, to clean, 1751 00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:07,267 and she cleaned the house, 1752 00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,980 but she studied to 1753 00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,980 cook Ashkenaz food, 1754 00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:14,066 like gefilte fish, kneidlach. 1755 00:53:14,066 --> 00:53:15,943 -Chopped liver. 1756 00:53:14,066 --> 00:53:15,943 -Yeah, chopped liver. 1757 00:53:15,943 --> 00:53:19,404 And on Rosh Hashanah 1758 00:53:15,943 --> 00:53:19,404 and Pesach, 1759 00:53:19,404 --> 00:53:23,868 we used to eat Ashkenaz food 1760 00:53:19,404 --> 00:53:23,868 and Turkish food together. 1761 00:53:23,868 --> 00:53:25,369 It was crazy. 1762 00:53:25,369 --> 00:53:27,830 So everything I based 1763 00:53:25,369 --> 00:53:27,830 on her knowledge, 1764 00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:29,999 and what she gave me to eat. 1765 00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:35,420 For example, this one 1766 00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:35,420 is a white tuna 1767 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:39,175 that I put in 1768 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:39,175 saltwater for two days, 1769 00:53:39,175 --> 00:53:40,551 and then I clean the skin. 1770 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:42,469 I fillet everything, 1771 00:53:42,469 --> 00:53:47,223 and we eat it with sour cream 1772 00:53:42,469 --> 00:53:47,223 and horseradish and potato. 1773 00:53:47,223 --> 00:53:49,852 -This is very Ashkenaz. 1774 00:53:47,223 --> 00:53:49,852 -Absolutely. 1775 00:53:49,852 --> 00:53:52,312 This is kind of like 1776 00:53:49,852 --> 00:53:52,312 pickled herring. So simple. 1777 00:53:52,312 --> 00:53:54,314 Yes. I don't put any green. 1778 00:53:54,314 --> 00:53:57,985 If they want to put green, 1779 00:53:54,314 --> 00:53:57,985 I cut the finger off them. 1780 00:53:57,985 --> 00:53:59,611 Don't... 1781 00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:01,697 You mean greens, 1782 00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:01,697 like, to garnish. 1783 00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:04,075 It's instinct 1784 00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:04,075 to put something. 1785 00:54:04,075 --> 00:54:06,035 Why? No need. 1786 00:54:04,075 --> 00:54:06,035 It's so beautiful. 1787 00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:08,328 Clean, white. 1788 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:10,873 I think this is 1789 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:10,873 modern Israeli cuisine, right? 1790 00:54:10,873 --> 00:54:14,001 -So you're Kurdish-Turkish 1791 00:54:10,873 --> 00:54:14,001 born in Tel Aviv, right? 1792 00:54:10,873 --> 00:54:14,001 -Yes. 1793 00:54:14,001 --> 00:54:16,045 And you're doing 1794 00:54:14,001 --> 00:54:16,045 a play on gefilte fish, 1795 00:54:16,045 --> 00:54:17,546 -but using white tuna. 1796 00:54:16,045 --> 00:54:17,546 -Yeah. 1797 00:54:17,546 --> 00:54:19,090 -Right? 1798 00:54:17,546 --> 00:54:19,090 -Yeah. 1799 00:54:19,090 --> 00:54:21,800 So this is 1800 00:54:19,090 --> 00:54:21,800 Israeli cuisine, right? 1801 00:54:22,718 --> 00:54:25,179 I hope so. 1802 00:54:22,718 --> 00:54:25,179 I hope so. 1803 00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:30,726 [Vered] In Israel, 1804 00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:30,726 part of the problem is 1805 00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:34,772 this really intense relation 1806 00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:34,772 between Ashkenazi 1807 00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:34,772 and Sephardic. 1808 00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:39,401 There's a lot of tension here, 1809 00:54:39,401 --> 00:54:42,905 because in the first 1810 00:54:39,401 --> 00:54:42,905 years of the state, 1811 00:54:42,905 --> 00:54:45,490 what Sephardic used to say 1812 00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:47,785 that Ashkenazi is 1813 00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:47,785 like the majority. 1814 00:54:47,785 --> 00:54:51,705 Ashkenazi, in a way, decided 1815 00:54:47,785 --> 00:54:51,705 how this state should look, 1816 00:54:51,705 --> 00:54:54,583 that it should 1817 00:54:51,705 --> 00:54:54,583 be more European, 1818 00:54:54,583 --> 00:54:56,919 that even the education, 1819 00:54:54,583 --> 00:54:56,919 the culture, 1820 00:54:56,919 --> 00:54:59,797 everything is more 1821 00:54:56,919 --> 00:54:59,797 Western than Eastern. 1822 00:54:59,797 --> 00:55:02,216 Of course, the kitchen, 1823 00:54:59,797 --> 00:55:02,216 like everything else 1824 00:55:02,216 --> 00:55:04,927 that has to do with culture, 1825 00:55:02,216 --> 00:55:04,927 is a part of it. 1826 00:55:04,927 --> 00:55:07,554 In a way, when they 1827 00:55:04,927 --> 00:55:07,554 started to build 1828 00:55:07,554 --> 00:55:10,599 the new Israeli kitchen 1829 00:55:07,554 --> 00:55:10,599 in the last 30 years, 1830 00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:13,978 it was really easy in 1831 00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:13,978 the beginning to take things 1832 00:55:13,978 --> 00:55:18,482 from the Sephardic kitchen 1833 00:55:13,978 --> 00:55:18,482 and the Sephardic community, 1834 00:55:18,482 --> 00:55:21,735 because Sephardic food is 1835 00:55:18,482 --> 00:55:21,735 like Spain from the beginning, 1836 00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:26,282 then Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, 1837 00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:26,282 Iraq, North Africa. 1838 00:55:26,282 --> 00:55:30,202 So it's more exotic to 1839 00:55:26,282 --> 00:55:30,202 cook something spicy. 1840 00:55:30,202 --> 00:55:34,414 The food looked a bit more 1841 00:55:30,202 --> 00:55:34,414 attractive than Ashkenazi food. 1842 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:36,708 And I think it has 1843 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:36,708 to do with the image 1844 00:55:36,708 --> 00:55:38,919 that we all had about 1845 00:55:38,919 --> 00:55:42,422 Polish or Eastern-European, 1846 00:55:38,919 --> 00:55:42,422 Ashkenazi kitchen, 1847 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:44,382 which was really bad. 1848 00:55:44,382 --> 00:55:46,844 Because all the stuff, 1849 00:55:44,382 --> 00:55:46,844 or most of the stuff 1850 00:55:46,844 --> 00:55:48,470 that made these cuisines 1851 00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:51,431 the Polish, Russian, 1852 00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:51,431 Ukrainian, sexy, 1853 00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:55,853 like wild berries, goose fat, 1854 00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:55,853 wild mushrooms, 1855 00:55:55,853 --> 00:56:01,066 were nonexistent in the Israel 1856 00:55:55,853 --> 00:56:01,066 of the '50s and the '60s. 1857 00:56:01,066 --> 00:56:05,321 So, as opposed to Moroccan 1858 00:56:01,066 --> 00:56:05,321 homemakers or Iraqi homemakers, 1859 00:56:05,321 --> 00:56:08,740 who at least knew how 1860 00:56:05,321 --> 00:56:08,740 to source the spices 1861 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:10,993 and ingredients 1862 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:10,993 and to work with them, 1863 00:56:10,993 --> 00:56:15,164 Ashkenazi cooks created 1864 00:56:10,993 --> 00:56:15,164 some very pale 1865 00:56:15,164 --> 00:56:18,167 and miserable version 1866 00:56:15,164 --> 00:56:18,167 of the real thing, 1867 00:56:18,167 --> 00:56:22,587 and that's what gave Ashkenazi 1868 00:56:18,167 --> 00:56:22,587 cooking in Israel such bad name, 1869 00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:24,673 because in Israel, 1870 00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:24,673 when you say Polish cooking, 1871 00:56:24,673 --> 00:56:27,592 it's another way of saying 1872 00:56:24,673 --> 00:56:27,592 bland, boring, 1873 00:56:27,592 --> 00:56:30,470 guilt-ridden kind of food. 1874 00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:36,018 [Vered] 1875 00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:36,018 Only now, young chefs 1876 00:56:36,018 --> 00:56:40,522 that are from Ashkenazi origin 1877 00:56:36,018 --> 00:56:40,522 start to cook Ashkenazi dishes, 1878 00:56:40,522 --> 00:56:43,984 and a little bit putting 1879 00:56:40,522 --> 00:56:43,984 some Ashkenazi influence 1880 00:56:43,984 --> 00:56:46,778 and inspiration 1881 00:56:43,984 --> 00:56:46,778 to the new Israeli kitchen. 1882 00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:49,865 My grandfather 1883 00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:49,865 and my grandmother 1884 00:56:49,865 --> 00:56:54,410 -fled Poland in 1935. 1885 00:56:49,865 --> 00:56:54,410 -1935. 1886 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:55,871 Something like that. 1887 00:56:55,871 --> 00:57:00,500 This is cured fish, 1888 00:56:55,871 --> 00:57:00,500 herring from the North Sea. 1889 00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,669 We get it by 1890 00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,669 the barrel, okay? 1891 00:57:02,669 --> 00:57:06,757 It's nothing that was 1892 00:57:02,669 --> 00:57:06,757 invented in Israel. 1893 00:57:06,757 --> 00:57:09,134 This is more tied up 1894 00:57:06,757 --> 00:57:09,134 to the culinary traditions 1895 00:57:09,134 --> 00:57:12,012 of my grandfather 1896 00:57:09,134 --> 00:57:12,012 and my grandmother. 1897 00:57:12,012 --> 00:57:13,931 That's what they used to eat. 1898 00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:15,891 -It's pickled herring, right? 1899 00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:15,891 -It's pickled herring. 1900 00:57:15,891 --> 00:57:18,269 It's called, in Hebrew, 1901 00:57:15,891 --> 00:57:18,269 dag maluach, 1902 00:57:18,269 --> 00:57:21,605 and I took it and building 1903 00:57:18,269 --> 00:57:21,605 on these memories, 1904 00:57:21,605 --> 00:57:23,481 I developed this dish. 1905 00:57:23,481 --> 00:57:26,110 I make an aioli 1906 00:57:23,481 --> 00:57:26,110 flavored with dashi, 1907 00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:27,694 which is completely Japanese. 1908 00:57:27,694 --> 00:57:32,783 That's something that 1909 00:57:27,694 --> 00:57:32,783 I encountered in the U.S. 1910 00:57:32,783 --> 00:57:37,746 I called it Ashkenazi 1911 00:57:32,783 --> 00:57:37,746 pickled purple onion, 1912 00:57:37,746 --> 00:57:40,082 and it gives the dish 1913 00:57:37,746 --> 00:57:40,082 some sweetness. 1914 00:57:40,082 --> 00:57:43,543 That's how my grandmother 1915 00:57:40,082 --> 00:57:43,543 used to, to cook onions. 1916 00:57:43,543 --> 00:57:45,837 She used to cook 1917 00:57:43,543 --> 00:57:45,837 all the onions, all the time. 1918 00:57:45,837 --> 00:57:49,507 Many onions. I mean, 1919 00:57:45,837 --> 00:57:49,507 you don't have Jewish cuisine 1920 00:57:49,507 --> 00:57:51,676 without an onion, for me. 1921 00:57:51,676 --> 00:57:53,637 So does 1922 00:57:51,676 --> 00:57:53,637 this define your cuisine? 1923 00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:55,722 I don't know. 1924 00:57:55,722 --> 00:57:57,682 I try not to 1925 00:57:55,722 --> 00:57:57,682 define my cuisine, 1926 00:57:57,682 --> 00:58:00,436 because once you 1927 00:57:57,682 --> 00:58:00,436 define something, 1928 00:58:00,436 --> 00:58:03,188 you have limits 1929 00:58:00,436 --> 00:58:03,188 and boundaries to it, okay? 1930 00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:05,816 Yeah, it's so buttery. 1931 00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:07,776 [Gur] If you 1932 00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:07,776 look at Israel today, 1933 00:58:07,776 --> 00:58:11,947 you still find cooks who still 1934 00:58:07,776 --> 00:58:11,947 make basically original, 1935 00:58:11,947 --> 00:58:13,240 Jewish, Ashkenazi food. 1936 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,700 But in a generation or so, 1937 00:58:15,700 --> 00:58:20,122 I'm afraid a great part 1938 00:58:15,700 --> 00:58:20,122 of it will be gone. 1939 00:58:20,122 --> 00:58:22,791 We're talking about 1940 00:58:20,122 --> 00:58:22,791 grandmothers' cooking, 1941 00:58:22,791 --> 00:58:25,377 labor-intensive food 1942 00:58:22,791 --> 00:58:25,377 that modern, busy cooks 1943 00:58:25,377 --> 00:58:27,838 do not necessarily 1944 00:58:25,377 --> 00:58:27,838 have time for, 1945 00:58:27,838 --> 00:58:30,466 and don't really 1946 00:58:27,838 --> 00:58:30,466 know how to make. 1947 00:58:30,466 --> 00:58:33,427 [Shmil Holland] This is 1948 00:58:30,466 --> 00:58:33,427 the typical Jerusalem kugel. 1949 00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:35,720 This is awesome, man, 1950 00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:35,720 and the top is super crusty. 1951 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,056 Yes, and all around. 1952 00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:41,101 In Jerusalem, Shmil Holland 1953 00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:41,101 knows where to find 1954 00:58:41,101 --> 00:58:43,312 the best 1955 00:58:41,101 --> 00:58:43,312 Orthodox Jewish food. 1956 00:58:43,312 --> 00:58:45,689 He's afraid traditional 1957 00:58:43,312 --> 00:58:45,689 Ashkenazi cooking 1958 00:58:45,689 --> 00:58:49,193 will disappear, like kugel. 1959 00:58:49,193 --> 00:58:53,738 Now the classic noodle kugel 1960 00:58:49,193 --> 00:58:53,738 has never been my favorite, 1961 00:58:53,738 --> 00:58:56,200 and when I heard that 1962 00:58:53,738 --> 00:58:56,200 Shmil boils the noodles 1963 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,452 for 40 minutes in milk... 1964 00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:01,705 I honestly wanted to leave. 1965 00:59:01,705 --> 00:59:03,415 We will make a kugel. 1966 00:59:03,415 --> 00:59:06,335 It's, more even 1967 00:59:03,415 --> 00:59:06,335 than gefilte fish, 1968 00:59:06,335 --> 00:59:09,754 the most Jewish, 1969 00:59:06,335 --> 00:59:09,754 it's the Jewish food. 1970 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:15,927 The beginning of 1971 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:15,927 my interest in Jewish food 1972 00:59:15,927 --> 00:59:18,180 was my grandmother. 1973 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:21,933 She came from Poland 1974 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:21,933 after the Holocaust. 1975 00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,395 She didn't cook 1976 00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,395 at all here. 1977 00:59:24,395 --> 00:59:26,230 When my grandfather died, 1978 00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:29,691 she was afraid 1979 00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:29,691 to sleep in her house, 1980 00:59:29,691 --> 00:59:31,568 because, you know, 1981 00:59:29,691 --> 00:59:31,568 the Holocaust, 1982 00:59:31,568 --> 00:59:34,738 everything comes back. 1983 00:59:34,738 --> 00:59:36,907 So, I was 16, 1984 00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:41,036 and she came to our house and 1985 00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:41,036 sleep with me in the same room. 1986 00:59:41,036 --> 00:59:42,620 So at night, we spoke. 1987 00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:45,416 She told me about 1988 00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:45,416 the life in Poland. 1989 00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:47,834 I heard about all 1990 00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:47,834 the kugels, everything, 1991 00:59:47,834 --> 00:59:50,712 but I never saw it 1992 00:59:47,834 --> 00:59:50,712 because she never cook. 1993 00:59:50,712 --> 00:59:52,797 She lived on the memories, 1994 00:59:52,797 --> 00:59:55,092 you know, the memories 1995 00:59:52,797 --> 00:59:55,092 before the war. 1996 00:59:59,221 --> 01:00:02,640 You know, I make it in 1997 00:59:59,221 --> 01:00:02,640 my grandmother's tradition way 1998 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,144 to separate the eggs. 1999 01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:08,146 She make it like this. 2000 01:00:08,146 --> 01:00:09,731 Yeah, I used to do it 2001 01:00:08,146 --> 01:00:09,731 like that, 2002 01:00:09,731 --> 01:00:11,733 but then I worked 2003 01:00:09,731 --> 01:00:11,733 for a pastry chef 2004 01:00:11,733 --> 01:00:14,319 that would cut my fingers 2005 01:00:11,733 --> 01:00:14,319 off if I ever do that. 2006 01:00:17,155 --> 01:00:18,990 Okay, so we're going to 2007 01:00:17,155 --> 01:00:18,990 get the sugar and the butter 2008 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:21,118 that's sort of caramelizing, 2009 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:21,118 almost caramelizing... 2010 01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:23,328 Yeah, a little bit. 2011 01:00:23,328 --> 01:00:25,705 Do you cook 2012 01:00:23,328 --> 01:00:25,705 only Ashkenazi? 2013 01:00:25,705 --> 01:00:28,917 No! No, 2014 01:00:25,705 --> 01:00:28,917 I cook all kinds of food. 2015 01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:31,128 But I love 2016 01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:31,128 the Ashkenazi kitchen. 2017 01:00:31,128 --> 01:00:32,670 Well, when I think of 2018 01:00:31,128 --> 01:00:32,670 Ashkenazi food, 2019 01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,756 I think of, like, blintzes 2020 01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,756 or boiled chicken. 2021 01:00:34,756 --> 01:00:37,759 -Ugh, yeah, I know. 2022 01:00:34,756 --> 01:00:37,759 -It's gotten a bad rap. 2023 01:00:37,759 --> 01:00:41,472 Because that's 2024 01:00:37,759 --> 01:00:41,472 more an immigrant kitchen. 2025 01:00:43,056 --> 01:00:47,394 In Poland, they put inside 2026 01:00:43,056 --> 01:00:47,394 the raspberries and blueberries, 2027 01:00:47,394 --> 01:00:49,729 -and... 2028 01:00:47,394 --> 01:00:49,729 -Fresh. 2029 01:00:49,729 --> 01:00:52,899 Fresh, because there, 2030 01:00:49,729 --> 01:00:52,899 you have it fresh. 2031 01:00:52,899 --> 01:00:56,528 -I think it's ready. 2032 01:00:52,899 --> 01:00:56,528 -It smells great. 2033 01:00:56,528 --> 01:00:59,030 Wow, and it looks not 2034 01:00:56,528 --> 01:00:59,030 at all like noodle kugel 2035 01:00:59,030 --> 01:01:00,491 that we're used to. 2036 01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:05,078 Look at that piece. 2037 01:01:09,541 --> 01:01:14,254 Mhm, it's delicious. 2038 01:01:14,254 --> 01:01:16,923 I thought the noodles 2039 01:01:14,254 --> 01:01:16,923 would end up being really mushy, 2040 01:01:16,923 --> 01:01:19,426 but you can actually taste 2041 01:01:16,923 --> 01:01:19,426 them a little better like this. 2042 01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:21,386 I think that this is 2043 01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:21,386 a great example 2044 01:01:21,386 --> 01:01:23,597 of interesting 2045 01:01:21,386 --> 01:01:23,597 Ashkenazi cuisine. 2046 01:01:23,597 --> 01:01:24,931 And I'm partially responsible. 2047 01:01:24,931 --> 01:01:26,308 I have an Israeli restaurant. 2048 01:01:26,308 --> 01:01:28,602 I focus on Sephardic food. 2049 01:01:28,602 --> 01:01:30,728 Twenty, 2050 01:01:28,602 --> 01:01:30,728 15 years ago, 2051 01:01:30,728 --> 01:01:35,484 eh, chefs recognized 2052 01:01:30,728 --> 01:01:35,484 that we have a treasure, 2053 01:01:35,484 --> 01:01:40,322 and we can use 2054 01:01:35,484 --> 01:01:40,322 our tradition of cooking, 2055 01:01:40,322 --> 01:01:46,036 like, from Kurdistan 2056 01:01:40,322 --> 01:01:46,036 and from Morocco and from Iraq. 2057 01:01:46,036 --> 01:01:50,541 Everybody has its own 2058 01:01:46,036 --> 01:01:50,541 traditional dishes. 2059 01:01:52,083 --> 01:01:55,753 Shmil's noodle kugel 2060 01:01:52,083 --> 01:01:55,753 actually blew me away. 2061 01:01:55,753 --> 01:01:57,339 So guess what? 2062 01:01:57,339 --> 01:02:00,133 I'm putting kugel on 2063 01:01:57,339 --> 01:02:00,133 the menu at Zahav. 2064 01:02:02,177 --> 01:02:04,346 [Gur] In the beginning, 2065 01:02:02,177 --> 01:02:04,346 the children of immigrants 2066 01:02:04,346 --> 01:02:07,807 were sort of embarrassed 2067 01:02:04,346 --> 01:02:07,807 about the food of their parents, 2068 01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:11,061 as often happens with immigrants 2069 01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:11,061 everywhere in the world, 2070 01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:15,106 because the kids get absorbed 2071 01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:15,106 and adjust very easily. 2072 01:02:15,106 --> 01:02:20,237 The woman I worked with told 2073 01:02:15,106 --> 01:02:20,237 me about amazing sweetmeat 2074 01:02:20,237 --> 01:02:24,741 called luzina coming from Iraq 2075 01:02:20,237 --> 01:02:24,741 made from dried quince, 2076 01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:28,078 that is really delicious, 2077 01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:28,078 and her mother would make it, 2078 01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:29,787 and she would 2079 01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:29,787 encourage her daughter 2080 01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:31,665 to give it to her friends, 2081 01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:31,665 and she never did, 2082 01:02:31,665 --> 01:02:34,292 because she didn't want them 2083 01:02:31,665 --> 01:02:34,292 to know that she is Iraqi. 2084 01:02:34,292 --> 01:02:36,294 My parents 2085 01:02:34,292 --> 01:02:36,294 came from Uzbekistan, 2086 01:02:36,294 --> 01:02:38,714 and my mother 2087 01:02:36,294 --> 01:02:38,714 obviously cooked, 2088 01:02:38,714 --> 01:02:40,798 today, I know, wonderful 2089 01:02:38,714 --> 01:02:40,798 Uzbeki food. 2090 01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:43,385 But as kids, we didn't 2091 01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:43,385 appreciate it at all. 2092 01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:45,095 All the kids in 2093 01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:45,095 the neighborhood, 2094 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:47,514 which came from 2095 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:47,514 different origins, 2096 01:02:47,514 --> 01:02:53,228 we all kind of were embarrassed 2097 01:02:47,514 --> 01:02:53,228 from our mothers' cooking, 2098 01:02:53,228 --> 01:02:58,609 because we thought it was kind 2099 01:02:53,228 --> 01:02:58,609 of archaic and not modern, 2100 01:02:58,609 --> 01:03:05,365 and it was not 2101 01:02:58,609 --> 01:03:05,365 the new Israeli stuff 2102 01:03:05,365 --> 01:03:08,243 that we imagined and wanted. 2103 01:03:08,243 --> 01:03:12,330 Even for us, the people who 2104 01:03:08,243 --> 01:03:12,330 are doing food as a business, 2105 01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:14,708 it took us a while 2106 01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:14,708 to understand 2107 01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:17,043 we don't really 2108 01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:17,043 need to go that far 2109 01:03:17,043 --> 01:03:19,421 to find exciting 2110 01:03:17,043 --> 01:03:19,421 and amazing cuisines, 2111 01:03:19,421 --> 01:03:21,339 because we had them all over. 2112 01:03:21,339 --> 01:03:24,842 We have much more choices 2113 01:03:21,339 --> 01:03:24,842 than our mother had. 2114 01:03:24,842 --> 01:03:26,928 Take the local ingredients, 2115 01:03:24,842 --> 01:03:26,928 which are amazing. 2116 01:03:26,928 --> 01:03:29,431 Like, we have 2117 01:03:26,928 --> 01:03:29,431 an amazing olive oil, 2118 01:03:29,431 --> 01:03:32,142 fantastic vegetables 2119 01:03:29,431 --> 01:03:32,142 and fruits. 2120 01:03:32,142 --> 01:03:35,186 We have the best tomatoes 2121 01:03:32,142 --> 01:03:35,186 on Earth today, really. 2122 01:03:35,186 --> 01:03:37,439 And we invented 2123 01:03:35,186 --> 01:03:37,439 the cherry tomatoes, 2124 01:03:37,439 --> 01:03:41,025 and you can get them anywhere 2125 01:03:37,439 --> 01:03:41,025 and we have an amazing variety, 2126 01:03:41,025 --> 01:03:42,902 and they're the best ever. 2127 01:03:45,614 --> 01:03:48,617 I heard a rumor 2128 01:03:45,614 --> 01:03:48,617 that the cherry tomato 2129 01:03:48,617 --> 01:03:51,328 was developed here 2130 01:03:48,617 --> 01:03:51,328 in Israel. Is that true? 2131 01:03:51,328 --> 01:03:53,204 The rumor said 2132 01:03:51,328 --> 01:03:53,204 that it is developed by 2133 01:03:53,204 --> 01:03:56,082 -Moshe Dayan, do you know? 2134 01:03:53,204 --> 01:03:56,082 -Yeah, the eye patch. 2135 01:03:56,082 --> 01:03:57,668 When he was 2136 01:03:56,082 --> 01:03:57,668 Agriculture Minister, 2137 01:03:57,668 --> 01:04:00,044 in order to export 2138 01:03:57,668 --> 01:04:00,044 from Israel. 2139 01:04:00,044 --> 01:04:02,714 Where are we 2140 01:04:00,044 --> 01:04:02,714 right now? 2141 01:04:02,714 --> 01:04:04,508 Well, we are in 2142 01:04:02,714 --> 01:04:04,508 Kadesh Barnea. 2143 01:04:04,508 --> 01:04:08,178 It is a village in 2144 01:04:04,508 --> 01:04:08,178 the south and upper Negev. 2145 01:04:08,178 --> 01:04:12,098 Actually, we are just on 2146 01:04:08,178 --> 01:04:12,098 the border with Egypt. 2147 01:04:12,098 --> 01:04:15,101 -How far away are 2148 01:04:12,098 --> 01:04:15,101 we from Egypt? 2149 01:04:12,098 --> 01:04:15,101 -200 meters. 2150 01:04:15,101 --> 01:04:17,061 Yeah? I could 2151 01:04:15,101 --> 01:04:17,061 throw a baseball. 2152 01:04:19,105 --> 01:04:21,775 What is going on 2153 01:04:19,105 --> 01:04:21,775 above here? 2154 01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:24,068 In order to 2155 01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:24,068 get cherry on the vine 2156 01:04:24,068 --> 01:04:26,780 like you see here, 2157 01:04:24,068 --> 01:04:26,780 grow for two years. 2158 01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:28,990 You can grow it. 2159 01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:28,990 And it grows and grows. 2160 01:04:28,990 --> 01:04:32,619 Now it's only the beginning, 2161 01:04:28,990 --> 01:04:32,619 you see, it's only two meters. 2162 01:04:32,619 --> 01:04:37,415 After one-and-a-half year, 2163 01:04:32,619 --> 01:04:37,415 we grow it for about 36 feet. 2164 01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,250 You can grow it 2165 01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,250 as much as you want. 2166 01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:41,002 -36 feet? 2167 01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:41,002 -Yeah. 2168 01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:44,798 That means that the plant 2169 01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:44,798 that you see here... the root... 2170 01:04:44,798 --> 01:04:47,133 if you will come 2171 01:04:44,798 --> 01:04:47,133 in about six months, 2172 01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:49,927 you will see that I pick 2173 01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:49,927 it over there. 2174 01:04:49,927 --> 01:04:51,638 Six, seven meters. 2175 01:04:51,638 --> 01:04:53,890 -So you're running 2176 01:04:51,638 --> 01:04:53,890 36 feet this way. 2177 01:04:51,638 --> 01:04:53,890 -Yeah. 2178 01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:57,894 Years ago, you can manufacture 2179 01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:57,894 three tons per dunam. 2180 01:04:57,894 --> 01:05:00,731 -Now, we can make up to 30. 2181 01:04:57,894 --> 01:05:00,731 -Amazing. 2182 01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:01,898 Dunam = 1/4 acre 2183 01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:04,818 We irrigate them 2184 01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:04,818 with a salty water. 2185 01:05:04,818 --> 01:05:07,195 This is very unique 2186 01:05:04,818 --> 01:05:07,195 to this area. 2187 01:05:07,195 --> 01:05:08,780 Beneath all the Negev, 2188 01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:12,158 there's a huge tank of 2189 01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:12,158 salty, thermal, mineral water. 2190 01:05:12,158 --> 01:05:16,162 We send it to 2191 01:05:12,158 --> 01:05:16,162 a desalination factory, 2192 01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:18,498 then it's come back 2193 01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:18,498 like freshwater. 2194 01:05:18,498 --> 01:05:22,001 If I want it to be 2195 01:05:18,498 --> 01:05:22,001 much more sweet, 2196 01:05:22,001 --> 01:05:24,087 I raise the level of salt. 2197 01:05:24,087 --> 01:05:29,426 Last year, they make a test 2198 01:05:24,087 --> 01:05:29,426 here with 100% salty water. 2199 01:05:29,426 --> 01:05:32,846 People cannot eat the tomato, 2200 01:05:29,426 --> 01:05:32,846 it was so sweet. 2201 01:05:32,846 --> 01:05:36,349 There are levels, 2202 01:05:32,846 --> 01:05:36,349 it's called bricks. 2203 01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:38,226 Coca-Cola is about 11. 2204 01:05:38,226 --> 01:05:41,145 We get 18, the level. 2205 01:05:41,145 --> 01:05:43,022 People eat it and throw it. 2206 01:05:43,022 --> 01:05:45,692 You had a tomato that beat 2207 01:05:43,022 --> 01:05:45,692 Coca-Cola in sweetness? 2208 01:05:45,692 --> 01:05:47,778 I have to taste that tomato. 2209 01:05:45,692 --> 01:05:47,778 Do you have any here? 2210 01:05:47,778 --> 01:05:50,864 -No, the test failed. 2211 01:05:47,778 --> 01:05:50,864 -Oh, my God. 2212 01:05:50,864 --> 01:05:54,618 I mean, we tried to make 2213 01:05:50,864 --> 01:05:54,618 the best sweet cherry... 2214 01:05:54,618 --> 01:05:56,035 You know, in America, 2215 01:05:56,035 --> 01:05:58,204 that would be 2216 01:05:56,035 --> 01:05:58,204 off the charts. You know? 2217 01:05:58,204 --> 01:05:59,915 With a big Coca-Cola? 2218 01:05:58,204 --> 01:05:59,915 They would sell it! 2219 01:05:59,915 --> 01:06:02,292 A really overly sweet tomato... 2220 01:06:19,768 --> 01:06:22,437 And it's not just tomatoes 2221 01:06:19,768 --> 01:06:22,437 that grow like this. 2222 01:06:22,437 --> 01:06:25,899 Eggplants and peppers 2223 01:06:22,437 --> 01:06:25,899 grow this way, too. 2224 01:06:28,192 --> 01:06:31,028 But modern methods don't 2225 01:06:28,192 --> 01:06:31,028 have to be new methods. 2226 01:06:40,831 --> 01:06:43,124 These are 2227 01:06:40,831 --> 01:06:43,124 Israeli cheeses, right? 2228 01:06:43,124 --> 01:06:44,459 I don't know. 2229 01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:46,210 I don't know if 2230 01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:46,210 it is really Israeli, 2231 01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:49,380 because I believe 2232 01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:49,380 in cheese art, 2233 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:53,551 because to make cheese, 2234 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:53,551 it is like to paint. 2235 01:06:53,551 --> 01:06:58,181 You take bacteria, 2236 01:06:53,551 --> 01:06:58,181 different bacteria, 2237 01:06:58,181 --> 01:07:00,600 and you put them together, 2238 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,312 and then you add them in a milk, 2239 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,312 in a clean milk. 2240 01:07:04,312 --> 01:07:08,900 And you get such wonderful 2241 01:07:04,312 --> 01:07:08,900 things because of that. 2242 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,819 All right, 2243 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,819 well, let's eat some cheese. 2244 01:07:10,819 --> 01:07:12,529 What's so intriguing 2245 01:07:10,819 --> 01:07:12,529 about this is that 2246 01:07:12,529 --> 01:07:15,323 the aging process when 2247 01:07:12,529 --> 01:07:15,323 you put it into a cave 2248 01:07:15,323 --> 01:07:17,450 that was here for 2249 01:07:15,323 --> 01:07:17,450 thousands of years, 2250 01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:19,661 you know, 2251 01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:19,661 from the Second Temple Period, 2252 01:07:19,661 --> 01:07:22,998 -in aging it, it's not, um... 2253 01:07:19,661 --> 01:07:22,998 -The cave is very important 2254 01:07:22,998 --> 01:07:25,542 because the cave has 2255 01:07:22,998 --> 01:07:25,542 a lot of bacteria. 2256 01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:27,460 The rock 2257 01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:27,460 has a lot of bacteria, 2258 01:07:27,460 --> 01:07:30,505 and we cannot find them 2259 01:07:27,460 --> 01:07:30,505 in different world. 2260 01:07:33,132 --> 01:07:35,677 These are the same cheese, 2261 01:07:35,677 --> 01:07:38,638 the same beginning, 2262 01:07:35,677 --> 01:07:38,638 the same batch. 2263 01:07:38,638 --> 01:07:40,724 With one, one we finished, 2264 01:07:40,724 --> 01:07:45,770 we make a finish 2265 01:07:40,724 --> 01:07:45,770 in a Spanish way, 2266 01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:48,857 that is, with olive oil. 2267 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,150 So you 2268 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,150 soak it in olive oil, right? 2269 01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:52,861 Yes. 2270 01:07:52,861 --> 01:07:56,656 Now, this is the same one, 2271 01:07:52,861 --> 01:07:56,656 but it's also with olive oil, 2272 01:07:56,656 --> 01:07:59,993 but after it, 2273 01:07:56,656 --> 01:07:59,993 we put it in a vacuum. 2274 01:07:59,993 --> 01:08:02,996 The bacteria 2275 01:07:59,993 --> 01:08:02,996 will not have air, 2276 01:08:02,996 --> 01:08:05,665 so they work differently 2277 01:08:02,996 --> 01:08:05,665 in the cheese. 2278 01:08:05,665 --> 01:08:09,544 So if there's less bacteria 2279 01:08:05,665 --> 01:08:09,544 that's anaerobic bacteria, 2280 01:08:09,544 --> 01:08:11,880 the cheese is sort of not 2281 01:08:09,544 --> 01:08:11,880 maturing after that, right? 2282 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,256 No, no, they mature, 2283 01:08:13,256 --> 01:08:16,259 but it's different in 2284 01:08:13,256 --> 01:08:16,259 anaerobic and aerobic. 2285 01:08:16,259 --> 01:08:18,845 This is with air, 2286 01:08:16,259 --> 01:08:18,845 and this is without air. 2287 01:08:18,845 --> 01:08:21,598 Here, you have 2288 01:08:18,845 --> 01:08:21,598 to take it in two hands. 2289 01:08:21,598 --> 01:08:25,977 -So same cheese? 2290 01:08:21,598 --> 01:08:25,977 -But different way of finish. 2291 01:08:25,977 --> 01:08:28,312 -Eat this one first, correct? 2292 01:08:25,977 --> 01:08:28,312 -No, this one. 2293 01:08:28,312 --> 01:08:31,232 -This one first, okay. 2294 01:08:28,312 --> 01:08:31,232 -And chew it good. 2295 01:08:32,567 --> 01:08:34,736 That gives us a taste. 2296 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,283 -Now you can see 2297 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,283 what happens to it. 2298 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,283 -I am. 2299 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,536 -They taste totally different. 2300 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,536 -The same! 2301 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,536 Completely different. 2302 01:08:43,536 --> 01:08:46,581 -I want another one of this. 2303 01:08:43,536 --> 01:08:46,581 -You can have everything 2304 01:08:43,536 --> 01:08:46,581 that you want. 2305 01:08:46,581 --> 01:08:49,042 I'm going to eat 2306 01:08:46,581 --> 01:08:49,042 all of it. Thank you. 2307 01:09:08,853 --> 01:09:12,356 [Israel Aharoni] The Middle East 2308 01:09:08,853 --> 01:09:12,356 is the origin of olive oil. 2309 01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:25,829 Don't make the olive tree cry. 2310 01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:25,829 Do it gently. 2311 01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:29,040 Do it gently. 2312 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,416 Sorry, olive tree. 2313 01:09:30,416 --> 01:09:33,753 Even the Italians have 2314 01:09:30,416 --> 01:09:33,753 a wonderful olive oil, 2315 01:09:33,753 --> 01:09:36,756 just because the Romans took 2316 01:09:33,753 --> 01:09:36,756 the olive trees back to Italy 2317 01:09:36,756 --> 01:09:39,092 when they were here, yeah! 2318 01:09:41,886 --> 01:09:43,513 About 35 years ago, 2319 01:09:43,513 --> 01:09:45,682 you couldn't buy 2320 01:09:43,513 --> 01:09:45,682 any olive oil in Israel. 2321 01:09:45,682 --> 01:09:49,268 Except for the Arabs, 2322 01:09:45,682 --> 01:09:49,268 of course, but the newcomers? 2323 01:09:49,268 --> 01:09:52,063 They had no idea about 2324 01:09:49,268 --> 01:09:52,063 the treasure they had. 2325 01:09:57,527 --> 01:09:59,029 And the funniest thing is 2326 01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:02,073 that olive oil became 2327 01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:02,073 popular in Israel, 2328 01:10:02,073 --> 01:10:05,035 not because it's 2329 01:10:02,073 --> 01:10:05,035 our historical product, 2330 01:10:05,035 --> 01:10:07,912 but because Italian food 2331 01:10:05,035 --> 01:10:07,912 became in fashion, 2332 01:10:07,912 --> 01:10:11,541 and then, we rediscovered 2333 01:10:07,912 --> 01:10:11,541 the olive oil. 2334 01:10:18,464 --> 01:10:20,216 [Solomonov] You always hear 2335 01:10:18,464 --> 01:10:20,216 that Israel is so small, 2336 01:10:20,216 --> 01:10:22,177 it's the size of New Jersey. 2337 01:10:22,177 --> 01:10:24,179 You can drive from Eilat, 2338 01:10:22,177 --> 01:10:24,179 all the way in the south, 2339 01:10:24,179 --> 01:10:25,596 and snorkel in the Red Sea, 2340 01:10:25,596 --> 01:10:27,264 and drive to the north 2341 01:10:25,596 --> 01:10:27,264 and go skiing, 2342 01:10:27,264 --> 01:10:28,683 which is absolutely true. 2343 01:10:28,683 --> 01:10:32,770 We were in Akko 2344 01:10:28,683 --> 01:10:32,770 eating raw shrimp. 2345 01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:34,689 Don't tell my mom. 2346 01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:34,689 Just kidding. 2347 01:10:34,689 --> 01:10:36,066 We were eating in Akko, 2348 01:10:36,066 --> 01:10:38,776 and we were eating 2349 01:10:36,066 --> 01:10:38,776 raw shrimp and crab, 2350 01:10:38,776 --> 01:10:41,779 really just pulled from 2351 01:10:38,776 --> 01:10:41,779 the sea earlier that morning. 2352 01:10:41,779 --> 01:10:46,283 And now, we've gone 2353 01:10:41,779 --> 01:10:46,283 to the absolute desert, 2354 01:10:46,283 --> 01:10:49,453 where nothing should be growing, 2355 01:10:46,283 --> 01:10:49,453 and there is so much. 2356 01:10:51,581 --> 01:10:54,667 We are in the valley 2357 01:10:51,581 --> 01:10:54,667 of Ezuz in the Negev. 2358 01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:56,377 This is the orchard. 2359 01:10:56,377 --> 01:11:01,591 There is like a peach, 2360 01:10:56,377 --> 01:11:01,591 a nectarine and plum 2361 01:10:56,377 --> 01:11:01,591 and almond, 2362 01:11:01,591 --> 01:11:05,678 and there is apricot, 2363 01:11:01,591 --> 01:11:05,678 and apple, pears-- 2364 01:11:05,678 --> 01:11:07,680 many, many kinds, 2365 01:11:05,678 --> 01:11:07,680 and also variety. 2366 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,059 In the peach, 2367 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,059 we have seven kind. 2368 01:11:11,059 --> 01:11:13,644 Are you an organic farmer? 2369 01:11:13,644 --> 01:11:17,690 I'm not in the organization, 2370 01:11:13,644 --> 01:11:17,690 but I don't give nothing. 2371 01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:21,778 Zero spray. 2372 01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:21,778 Zero, zero, zero! 2373 01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:21,778 But zero. 2374 01:11:21,778 --> 01:11:23,821 This is something 2375 01:11:21,778 --> 01:11:23,821 I've never seen before, 2376 01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:26,074 and I've spent a lot 2377 01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:26,074 of time in orchards. 2378 01:11:26,074 --> 01:11:27,784 What are we looking at here? 2379 01:11:27,784 --> 01:11:29,368 These brick terraces? 2380 01:11:27,784 --> 01:11:29,368 Stone terraces. 2381 01:11:29,368 --> 01:11:32,956 The stone terraces, 2382 01:11:29,368 --> 01:11:32,956 we use the system 2383 01:11:29,368 --> 01:11:32,956 of the Nabateans. 2384 01:11:32,956 --> 01:11:35,499 Ancient people 2385 01:11:32,956 --> 01:11:35,499 used to farm here, 2386 01:11:35,499 --> 01:11:38,294 in a system of collecting 2387 01:11:35,499 --> 01:11:38,294 the floodwater. 2388 01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:42,715 When there's a strong rain, 2389 01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:42,715 it comes the flood. 2390 01:11:42,715 --> 01:11:44,383 And when you have the flood, 2391 01:11:42,715 --> 01:11:44,383 you have a lot, 2392 01:11:44,383 --> 01:11:46,136 a lot of water in the valleys. 2393 01:11:46,136 --> 01:11:47,303 They go down to the valleys. 2394 01:11:47,303 --> 01:11:49,055 How many times 2395 01:11:47,303 --> 01:11:49,055 a year does it flood? 2396 01:11:49,055 --> 01:11:52,433 It can be two times 2397 01:11:49,055 --> 01:11:52,433 to six times, 2398 01:11:52,433 --> 01:11:54,811 but it can be zero. 2399 01:11:54,811 --> 01:11:56,353 Does the water, 2400 01:11:54,811 --> 01:11:56,353 when it floods, 2401 01:11:56,353 --> 01:11:59,190 does it get as high 2402 01:11:56,353 --> 01:11:59,190 as we are standing? 2403 01:11:59,190 --> 01:12:01,567 No, when the floodwater 2404 01:11:59,190 --> 01:12:01,567 comes from the stairs, 2405 01:12:01,567 --> 01:12:03,027 and then it fills it, 2406 01:12:03,027 --> 01:12:05,571 and it fills it up 2407 01:12:03,027 --> 01:12:05,571 to the height of the trees, 2408 01:12:05,571 --> 01:12:07,448 from these hills. 2409 01:12:07,448 --> 01:12:09,575 And when it 2410 01:12:07,448 --> 01:12:09,575 gets to this height, 2411 01:12:09,575 --> 01:12:13,037 the stairs of 2412 01:12:09,575 --> 01:12:13,037 the next one will put it 2413 01:12:09,575 --> 01:12:13,037 to the next one, and go. 2414 01:12:13,037 --> 01:12:17,374 Fill one, go to the next. 2415 01:12:13,037 --> 01:12:17,374 Fill one, go to the next. 2416 01:12:17,374 --> 01:12:19,294 We have seven fields 2417 01:12:17,374 --> 01:12:19,294 like this. 2418 01:12:19,294 --> 01:12:21,921 And this only 2419 01:12:19,294 --> 01:12:21,921 happens because of the soil, 2420 01:12:21,921 --> 01:12:24,174 because there's so much clay 2421 01:12:21,921 --> 01:12:24,174 in the soil, right? 2422 01:12:24,174 --> 01:12:25,424 Yeah, yeah. 2423 01:12:25,424 --> 01:12:27,260 The soil is a lot of clay. 2424 01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:30,221 Here, the land 2425 01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:30,221 saves the water. 2426 01:12:30,221 --> 01:12:33,099 For one year, two years-- 2427 01:12:30,221 --> 01:12:33,099 it's been saved. 2428 01:12:33,099 --> 01:12:37,561 In the season, we cover 2429 01:12:33,099 --> 01:12:37,561 all the lines with the net. 2430 01:12:37,561 --> 01:12:40,273 -Oh, so the flies 2431 01:12:37,561 --> 01:12:40,273 don't get in. 2432 01:12:37,561 --> 01:12:40,273 -Yeah. 2433 01:12:44,027 --> 01:12:45,736 -So you just take a bite. 2434 01:12:44,027 --> 01:12:45,736 -Yeah. 2435 01:12:48,364 --> 01:12:51,367 All the fruit is 2436 01:12:48,364 --> 01:12:51,367 this kind of taste. 2437 01:12:48,364 --> 01:12:51,367 Very strong taste. 2438 01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:54,620 It's natural. 2439 01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:54,620 You feel the natural, 2440 01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:54,620 and you feel the love. 2441 01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:56,164 You can feel it. 2442 01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:56,164 You tell me. 2443 01:12:56,164 --> 01:12:57,581 -I do. 2444 01:12:56,164 --> 01:12:57,581 -Okay. 2445 01:12:57,581 --> 01:12:59,667 It's amazing. 2446 01:12:59,667 --> 01:13:01,878 I've never had guava 2447 01:12:59,667 --> 01:13:01,878 like this before. 2448 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,174 What kind of 2449 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,174 grapes are these? 2450 01:13:06,174 --> 01:13:07,884 This is Muscat. 2451 01:13:17,060 --> 01:13:18,811 It's weird. 2452 01:13:18,811 --> 01:13:21,272 I don't know, this tastes 2453 01:13:18,811 --> 01:13:21,272 more fruity or something. 2454 01:13:21,272 --> 01:13:23,358 The taste of the fruit 2455 01:13:21,272 --> 01:13:23,358 is more concentrated. 2456 01:13:23,358 --> 01:13:27,195 In the supermarket, 2457 01:13:23,358 --> 01:13:27,195 it's big, it's beautiful, 2458 01:13:23,358 --> 01:13:27,195 but no taste of fruit. 2459 01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,532 Here, it's not big, 2460 01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,532 not beautiful, but a lot 2461 01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,532 of taste of fruit. 2462 01:13:33,034 --> 01:13:34,827 Did you pick this location 2463 01:13:34,827 --> 01:13:37,413 because of the history 2464 01:13:34,827 --> 01:13:37,413 that it had here with flooding? 2465 01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:41,625 It used to be here, 2466 01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:41,625 Nabatean terraces 2467 01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:41,625 in the ancient time. 2468 01:14:02,313 --> 01:14:05,108 So we are in Avdat, 2469 01:14:05,108 --> 01:14:08,611 which was the one of the main 2470 01:14:05,108 --> 01:14:08,611 cities, or the capital city, 2471 01:14:08,611 --> 01:14:10,071 of the Nabatians. 2472 01:14:10,071 --> 01:14:14,367 The Nabatian culture 2473 01:14:10,071 --> 01:14:14,367 started 2,300 years ago, 2474 01:14:14,367 --> 01:14:17,453 around the 4th century B.C. 2475 01:14:17,453 --> 01:14:22,375 One of their main ways of 2476 01:14:17,453 --> 01:14:22,375 making money of their factories 2477 01:14:22,375 --> 01:14:24,794 was a wine industry. 2478 01:14:24,794 --> 01:14:26,670 This is a wine press. 2479 01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:29,299 It's just about 2480 01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:29,299 1,700 years old. 2481 01:14:29,299 --> 01:14:32,551 I think it's one of 2482 01:14:29,299 --> 01:14:32,551 the biggest one we can see. 2483 01:14:32,551 --> 01:14:34,678 All around us, 2484 01:14:32,551 --> 01:14:34,678 there were vineyards, 2485 01:14:34,678 --> 01:14:39,558 and horses and carriages 2486 01:14:34,678 --> 01:14:39,558 and donkeys and men 2487 01:14:39,558 --> 01:14:42,686 used to come up the hill 2488 01:14:39,558 --> 01:14:42,686 with the fresh-picked grapes, 2489 01:14:42,686 --> 01:14:45,689 and put them into 2490 01:14:42,686 --> 01:14:45,689 these platforms. 2491 01:14:45,689 --> 01:14:48,734 Here is where you would 2492 01:14:45,689 --> 01:14:48,734 crush the, the grapes. 2493 01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,861 Would they literally 2494 01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,861 step on the grapes? 2495 01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:52,863 Were there a lot of people 2496 01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:52,863 here that would step on grapes? 2497 01:14:52,863 --> 01:14:54,531 Yeah. From here, 2498 01:14:54,531 --> 01:14:56,700 it would either go 2499 01:14:54,531 --> 01:14:56,700 inside this tunnel, 2500 01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:58,995 or in here through 2501 01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:58,995 this hole, 2502 01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:02,039 which is where the fermentation 2503 01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:02,039 used to take place. 2504 01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,167 So, by looking at this size, 2505 01:15:04,167 --> 01:15:08,171 this is actually similar 2506 01:15:04,167 --> 01:15:08,171 to a pretty modern winery. 2507 01:15:08,171 --> 01:15:11,090 We can imagine 2508 01:15:08,171 --> 01:15:11,090 the amount of wine 2509 01:15:11,090 --> 01:15:13,009 that came out of this place. 2510 01:15:13,009 --> 01:15:15,470 With the first 2511 01:15:13,009 --> 01:15:15,470 Muslim occupation of this area 2512 01:15:15,470 --> 01:15:17,472 in the 7th and 8th centuries, 2513 01:15:17,472 --> 01:15:19,182 from the Byzantine emperors, 2514 01:15:19,182 --> 01:15:22,852 obviously Muslims prohibited 2515 01:15:19,182 --> 01:15:22,852 the usage of alcohol, 2516 01:15:22,852 --> 01:15:25,938 and they had destroyed 2517 01:15:22,852 --> 01:15:25,938 the alcohol industry, 2518 01:15:25,938 --> 01:15:28,024 which was mainly wine. 2519 01:15:28,024 --> 01:15:29,775 So, in Israel, 2520 01:15:29,775 --> 01:15:34,071 the wine industry had ceased to 2521 01:15:29,775 --> 01:15:34,071 exist from the 7th century, 2522 01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:37,783 up until the late 19th century, 2523 01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:37,783 20th century, 2524 01:15:37,783 --> 01:15:39,869 when the Jews have returned. 2525 01:15:39,869 --> 01:15:42,872 They have returned 2526 01:15:39,869 --> 01:15:42,872 with a lot of money 2527 01:15:42,872 --> 01:15:44,665 coming from 2528 01:15:42,872 --> 01:15:44,665 Baron de Rothschild, 2529 01:15:44,665 --> 01:15:47,210 who was 2530 01:15:44,665 --> 01:15:47,210 an enthusiastic Zionist. 2531 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:50,671 He sent over 2532 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:50,671 his counselors from France, 2533 01:15:50,671 --> 01:15:55,426 and they brought their varieties 2534 01:15:50,671 --> 01:15:55,426 to be planted in Israel, 2535 01:15:55,426 --> 01:15:58,513 and they tried 2536 01:15:55,426 --> 01:15:58,513 to create French wine. 2537 01:15:58,513 --> 01:16:01,974 They made 2538 01:15:58,513 --> 01:16:01,974 wines that were mediocre. 2539 01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:04,768 Little by little, 2540 01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:04,768 these wines became dreadful. 2541 01:16:04,768 --> 01:16:06,479 Thirty-five years ago, 2542 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,855 Israeli entrepreneurs 2543 01:16:07,855 --> 01:16:09,606 who have traveled 2544 01:16:07,855 --> 01:16:09,606 the new world... 2545 01:16:09,606 --> 01:16:12,651 America, Napa Valley, 2546 01:16:09,606 --> 01:16:12,651 and Australia, 2547 01:16:12,651 --> 01:16:16,780 and discovered Shiraz and 2548 01:16:12,651 --> 01:16:16,780 Cabernet and Cabernet Franc, 2549 01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:19,116 came back to Israel and put 2550 01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:19,116 the vines in the ground, 2551 01:16:19,116 --> 01:16:21,744 and they waited 2552 01:16:19,116 --> 01:16:21,744 long enough and they said, 2553 01:16:21,744 --> 01:16:23,620 "We don't care about tons. 2554 01:16:23,620 --> 01:16:25,540 We care about quality." 2555 01:16:27,958 --> 01:16:30,961 While we were 2556 01:16:27,958 --> 01:16:30,961 a one-winery nation 2557 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:34,757 up until the early '80s, 2558 01:16:34,757 --> 01:16:39,053 now we have more 2559 01:16:34,757 --> 01:16:39,053 than 300 boutique 2560 01:16:34,757 --> 01:16:39,053 and garage wineries. 2561 01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:43,391 Israeli wines are being 2562 01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:43,391 very highly appreciated. 2563 01:16:43,391 --> 01:16:47,895 You have Old World wines 2564 01:16:43,391 --> 01:16:47,895 like the wineries of Carmel. 2565 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,569 And you have 2566 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,569 New World wines-- 2567 01:16:54,569 --> 01:16:57,321 great wines, 2568 01:16:54,569 --> 01:16:57,321 robust, powerful. 2569 01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:02,535 Some of them Israeli-- 2570 01:17:02,535 --> 01:17:07,081 rude, in-your-face 2571 01:17:02,535 --> 01:17:07,081 wines, lovely wine. 2572 01:17:11,294 --> 01:17:14,004 [Tal Pelter] Everything starts 2573 01:17:11,294 --> 01:17:14,004 from very, very good grapes, 2574 01:17:14,004 --> 01:17:15,881 and a good place 2575 01:17:14,004 --> 01:17:15,881 to grow grapes 2576 01:17:15,881 --> 01:17:17,674 is up here in the Golan. 2577 01:17:17,674 --> 01:17:20,553 I think it's the best 2578 01:17:17,674 --> 01:17:20,553 wine region in Israel, 2579 01:17:20,553 --> 01:17:22,388 and, my opinion, one of 2580 01:17:20,553 --> 01:17:22,388 the best in the world. 2581 01:17:22,388 --> 01:17:25,224 Because we're up high, 2582 01:17:25,224 --> 01:17:28,102 we have maturity every year, 2583 01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:30,938 can grow almost 2584 01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:30,938 any variety here. 2585 01:17:32,523 --> 01:17:34,317 We're pressing a Cabernet. 2586 01:17:34,317 --> 01:17:40,823 It's now in 2587 01:17:34,317 --> 01:17:40,823 its third week on skins. 2588 01:17:40,823 --> 01:17:43,909 It has really strong acidity. 2589 01:17:43,909 --> 01:17:45,411 Very low pH. 2590 01:17:45,411 --> 01:17:47,246 Very good color. 2591 01:17:47,246 --> 01:17:49,790 -I don't drink, actually. 2592 01:17:47,246 --> 01:17:49,790 -You don't? 2593 01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:53,085 -I'm not a drinker. 2594 01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:53,085 -Why not? 2595 01:17:53,085 --> 01:17:54,753 I'm allergic. 2596 01:17:54,753 --> 01:17:57,590 I break out in handcuffs 2597 01:17:54,753 --> 01:17:57,590 and police cars when I drink. 2598 01:17:57,590 --> 01:18:00,717 I definitely appreciate 2599 01:17:57,590 --> 01:18:00,717 good wine, you know. 2600 01:18:00,717 --> 01:18:03,429 Obviously, you're going 2601 01:18:00,717 --> 01:18:03,429 to be doing the drinking. 2602 01:18:15,399 --> 01:18:17,485 [Amir Savig] We are 2603 01:18:15,399 --> 01:18:17,485 producing this year 2604 01:18:17,485 --> 01:18:19,529 getting close to 2605 01:18:17,485 --> 01:18:19,529 two million bottles. 2606 01:18:19,529 --> 01:18:22,198 Ten years ago, 2607 01:18:19,529 --> 01:18:22,198 40,000 or 50,000. 2608 01:18:22,198 --> 01:18:23,699 That's amazing. 2609 01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:28,454 At the moment, 2610 01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:28,454 we're selling close to 90% 2611 01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:30,623 on local market, 2612 01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:30,623 and ten percent is exported. 2613 01:18:30,623 --> 01:18:34,293 [Solomonov] Usually, Israeli 2614 01:18:30,623 --> 01:18:34,293 wine is in the kosher section 2615 01:18:34,293 --> 01:18:36,712 of the liquor store 2616 01:18:34,293 --> 01:18:36,712 in the States. 2617 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:39,089 You know, you have Argentina, 2618 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:39,089 you have France, 2619 01:18:39,089 --> 01:18:41,509 Spain is now obviously 2620 01:18:39,089 --> 01:18:41,509 having a moment, too. 2621 01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:43,969 Then there's no Israeli wine, 2622 01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:43,969 there's kosher wine. 2623 01:18:43,969 --> 01:18:45,596 That could be kosher 2624 01:18:43,969 --> 01:18:45,596 from California, 2625 01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:47,723 it could be freaking 2626 01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:47,723 Manischewitz, 2627 01:18:47,723 --> 01:18:49,850 and then you also have stuff 2628 01:18:47,723 --> 01:18:49,850 that you guys are serving, 2629 01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:53,729 which is rated 94, 95, 96 2630 01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:53,729 on Parker, you know? 2631 01:18:53,729 --> 01:18:55,898 How do you break 2632 01:18:53,729 --> 01:18:55,898 that stereotype 2633 01:18:55,898 --> 01:19:01,571 that Israeli or Jewish wine is 2634 01:18:55,898 --> 01:19:01,571 sweet and cooked and disgusting? 2635 01:19:01,571 --> 01:19:04,781 [David Montefiore] 2636 01:19:01,571 --> 01:19:04,781 Start by trying to explain 2637 01:19:01,571 --> 01:19:04,781 the difference 2638 01:19:04,781 --> 01:19:06,825 between what all kosher 2639 01:19:04,781 --> 01:19:06,825 wine used to be, 2640 01:19:06,825 --> 01:19:08,494 and kosher today. 2641 01:19:08,494 --> 01:19:12,331 There's no difference 2642 01:19:08,494 --> 01:19:12,331 in the way it is made, 2643 01:19:12,331 --> 01:19:16,711 than the way top wine from top 2644 01:19:12,331 --> 01:19:16,711 Bordeaux château is made. 2645 01:19:16,711 --> 01:19:18,546 The winemaking is 2646 01:19:16,711 --> 01:19:18,546 exactly the same. 2647 01:19:18,546 --> 01:19:21,298 The key element is 2648 01:19:18,546 --> 01:19:21,298 the fact that a religious, 2649 01:19:21,298 --> 01:19:22,966 Sabbath-keeping Jew 2650 01:19:22,966 --> 01:19:26,053 is the man who needs to be 2651 01:19:22,966 --> 01:19:26,053 in actual contact with... 2652 01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:28,097 -And not even this guy! 2653 01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:28,097 -Not even this guy! 2654 01:19:28,097 --> 01:19:29,265 Not even the winemaker. 2655 01:19:29,265 --> 01:19:30,725 I'm not 2656 01:19:29,265 --> 01:19:30,725 allowed to touch the wine. 2657 01:19:30,725 --> 01:19:33,102 If you observe the Sabbath, 2658 01:19:30,725 --> 01:19:33,102 you could? 2659 01:19:33,102 --> 01:19:34,687 Yes, yes. Definitely. 2660 01:19:34,687 --> 01:19:36,522 That's the key factor. 2661 01:19:36,522 --> 01:19:38,315 But very few winemakers 2662 01:19:36,522 --> 01:19:38,315 do it. 2663 01:19:38,315 --> 01:19:41,026 I would say the demographics 2664 01:19:38,315 --> 01:19:41,026 now in Israel 2665 01:19:41,026 --> 01:19:44,238 are probably 2666 01:19:41,026 --> 01:19:44,238 80% nonreligious people, 2667 01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:47,241 and so, people will do 2668 01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:47,241 everything on a Saturday. 2669 01:19:47,241 --> 01:19:48,659 Of course, of course. 2670 01:19:48,659 --> 01:19:50,160 But what about 2671 01:19:48,659 --> 01:19:50,160 in this winery? 2672 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,995 On Shabbat, does 2673 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,995 everything stop here? 2674 01:19:51,995 --> 01:19:53,289 Shabbat = the Sabbath 2675 01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:55,416 Yes, 2676 01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:55,416 completely locked and shut. 2677 01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:58,210 Like a kosher 2678 01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:58,210 restaurant, right? 2679 01:19:58,210 --> 01:19:59,795 All the ovens 2680 01:19:58,210 --> 01:19:59,795 have to get turned off, 2681 01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:01,171 everybody leaves. Crazy. 2682 01:20:01,171 --> 01:20:03,674 Same on all 2683 01:20:01,171 --> 01:20:03,674 Jewish holidays. 2684 01:20:03,674 --> 01:20:05,801 Most of them are 2685 01:20:03,674 --> 01:20:05,801 during the harvest. 2686 01:20:05,801 --> 01:20:09,680 We have some ways 2687 01:20:05,801 --> 01:20:09,680 of technologically 2688 01:20:05,801 --> 01:20:09,680 going around this. 2689 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,891 A lot of stuff is being done 2690 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,891 automatically when we are gone. 2691 01:20:15,519 --> 01:20:18,314 So is it frustrating 2692 01:20:15,519 --> 01:20:18,314 that you can't do this yourself? 2693 01:20:18,314 --> 01:20:19,565 No, you get used to it. 2694 01:20:19,565 --> 01:20:22,276 It was difficult 2695 01:20:19,565 --> 01:20:22,276 at the beginning. 2696 01:20:22,276 --> 01:20:24,737 But I'm used to 2697 01:20:22,276 --> 01:20:24,737 having my hands in my pockets 2698 01:20:24,737 --> 01:20:26,071 when I'm here. 2699 01:20:28,282 --> 01:20:31,410 -Cheers. 2700 01:20:28,282 --> 01:20:31,410 -L'chaim. 2701 01:20:34,871 --> 01:20:38,709 Kosher means "proper" 2702 01:20:34,871 --> 01:20:38,709 in Hebrew. 2703 01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:41,962 Kosher dietary laws have been 2704 01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:41,962 observed by religious Jews 2705 01:20:41,962 --> 01:20:43,464 for thousands of years. 2706 01:20:44,923 --> 01:20:46,676 With kosher food, 2707 01:20:44,923 --> 01:20:46,676 you have rules. 2708 01:20:46,676 --> 01:20:49,136 You may not cook 2709 01:20:46,676 --> 01:20:49,136 dairy with meat, 2710 01:20:49,136 --> 01:20:51,597 you may not have 2711 01:20:49,136 --> 01:20:51,597 certain kinds of seafood, 2712 01:20:51,597 --> 01:20:53,140 you may not have pork, 2713 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:54,933 you may not have 2714 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:54,933 this kind of meat 2715 01:20:54,933 --> 01:20:56,602 and that kind of meat. 2716 01:20:56,602 --> 01:21:00,022 The number of 2717 01:20:56,602 --> 01:21:00,022 Orthodox religious Jews 2718 01:21:00,022 --> 01:21:03,734 compared to secular Jews 2719 01:21:00,022 --> 01:21:03,734 in Israel is very small, 2720 01:21:03,734 --> 01:21:06,403 but they have a lot 2721 01:21:03,734 --> 01:21:06,403 of political power, 2722 01:21:06,403 --> 01:21:10,783 so, in a way, they managed to 2723 01:21:06,403 --> 01:21:10,783 make laws and regulations 2724 01:21:10,783 --> 01:21:14,953 that forbids people like 2725 01:21:10,783 --> 01:21:14,953 me, secular people, 2726 01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:19,375 to raise, to eat, to sell, 2727 01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:19,375 for example, pork. 2728 01:21:19,375 --> 01:21:21,585 You can't import prosciutto 2729 01:21:19,375 --> 01:21:21,585 or jamón to Israel... 2730 01:21:21,585 --> 01:21:23,170 jamón = ham 2731 01:21:23,170 --> 01:21:25,715 ...'cause naturally, 2732 01:21:23,170 --> 01:21:25,715 the meat of pork 2733 01:21:23,170 --> 01:21:25,715 is never kosher, 2734 01:21:25,715 --> 01:21:28,843 which is, of course, a big 2735 01:21:25,715 --> 01:21:28,843 tragedy if you're a food lover. 2736 01:21:28,843 --> 01:21:30,469 Take steaks. 2737 01:21:30,469 --> 01:21:32,680 If you want a steak 2738 01:21:30,469 --> 01:21:32,680 to be kosher, 2739 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,683 you have to take 2740 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,683 all the blood, 2741 01:21:35,683 --> 01:21:38,435 or the juice, out of it, 2742 01:21:35,683 --> 01:21:38,435 because the blood is the soul, 2743 01:21:38,435 --> 01:21:40,646 and the soul should not be in 2744 01:21:38,435 --> 01:21:40,646 the animal when you eat it. 2745 01:21:40,646 --> 01:21:43,649 [Nathan] You have 2746 01:21:40,646 --> 01:21:43,649 to have a ritual slaughterer 2747 01:21:43,649 --> 01:21:47,986 who will just use a knife 2748 01:21:43,649 --> 01:21:47,986 quickly to get rid of the blood 2749 01:21:47,986 --> 01:21:50,239 as quickly as 2750 01:21:47,986 --> 01:21:50,239 possible, and you salt it, 2751 01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:52,867 and you put 2752 01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:52,867 cold water on it, 2753 01:21:52,867 --> 01:21:55,202 as it's said in the Bible. 2754 01:21:55,202 --> 01:21:57,705 Most people think you've 2755 01:21:55,202 --> 01:21:57,705 got to have it overcooked, 2756 01:21:57,705 --> 01:22:01,041 so it's not red, but it's 2757 01:21:57,705 --> 01:22:01,041 not necessarily the blood 2758 01:22:01,041 --> 01:22:03,502 that's still in there 2759 01:22:01,041 --> 01:22:03,502 that's red, it's rare. 2760 01:22:03,502 --> 01:22:06,088 I think the problem is 2761 01:22:03,502 --> 01:22:06,088 the just overcooking, 2762 01:22:06,088 --> 01:22:09,800 and it's pretty awful, 2763 01:22:06,088 --> 01:22:09,800 but it doesn't have to be. 2764 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,386 Judaism 2765 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,386 has a lot of paradoxes. 2766 01:22:12,386 --> 01:22:16,014 One of them is that we have 2767 01:22:12,386 --> 01:22:16,014 to eat very well, 2768 01:22:16,014 --> 01:22:17,808 festive food, 2769 01:22:16,014 --> 01:22:17,808 on Shabbat, 2770 01:22:17,808 --> 01:22:21,311 and at the same time, 2771 01:22:17,808 --> 01:22:21,311 you are not allowed to cook, 2772 01:22:21,311 --> 01:22:23,105 because cooking is working, 2773 01:22:23,105 --> 01:22:25,357 and you're not allowed to work; 2774 01:22:23,105 --> 01:22:25,357 you have to rest. 2775 01:22:25,357 --> 01:22:29,570 So, come on, guys, how are 2776 01:22:25,357 --> 01:22:29,570 we supposed to eat very well, 2777 01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:32,030 festive food, 2778 01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:32,030 the best food of the week, 2779 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:35,033 on Saturday, if we are 2780 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:35,033 not allowed to cook? 2781 01:22:35,033 --> 01:22:38,871 Shabbat was very important 2782 01:22:35,033 --> 01:22:38,871 to the Jewish cuisine, 2783 01:22:38,871 --> 01:22:41,164 because when people 2784 01:22:38,871 --> 01:22:41,164 set in the diaspora 2785 01:22:41,164 --> 01:22:43,667 in different communities, 2786 01:22:41,164 --> 01:22:43,667 what made them different 2787 01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:46,754 from their neighbors 2788 01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:46,754 were the Shabbat 2789 01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:46,754 and the kosher laws. 2790 01:22:46,754 --> 01:22:49,799 Because they had 2791 01:22:46,754 --> 01:22:49,799 to preserve the Shabbat, 2792 01:22:49,799 --> 01:22:53,969 not to light fire and all 2793 01:22:49,799 --> 01:22:53,969 kinds of religious regulations, 2794 01:22:53,969 --> 01:22:55,554 they developed 2795 01:22:53,969 --> 01:22:55,554 a lot of dishes. 2796 01:22:57,180 --> 01:22:59,850 [Aharoni] All these 2797 01:22:57,180 --> 01:22:59,850 different ethnic cuisines 2798 01:22:59,850 --> 01:23:01,977 had to come 2799 01:22:59,850 --> 01:23:01,977 up with the food, 2800 01:23:01,977 --> 01:23:03,813 and more than one, 2801 01:23:03,813 --> 01:23:08,108 that you can start cooking 2802 01:23:03,813 --> 01:23:08,108 on Friday afternoon, 2803 01:23:08,108 --> 01:23:09,401 before the Shabbat comes in, 2804 01:23:09,401 --> 01:23:11,987 and it should stay 2805 01:23:09,401 --> 01:23:11,987 on the stove, 2806 01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:15,783 or in the oven 2807 01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:15,783 or whatever method you chose, 2808 01:23:15,783 --> 01:23:17,785 like, 16 hours. 2809 01:23:17,785 --> 01:23:19,703 So, actually, 2810 01:23:17,785 --> 01:23:19,703 we have an amazing, 2811 01:23:19,703 --> 01:23:24,040 colorful, flavorful mosaic 2812 01:23:19,703 --> 01:23:24,040 of cuisines in Israel. 2813 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,335 All the people 2814 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,335 that have ended up here 2815 01:23:26,335 --> 01:23:27,920 from wherever they have, 2816 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,506 because essentially this 2817 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,506 entire place is transient, 2818 01:23:30,506 --> 01:23:32,424 bringing with them 2819 01:23:30,506 --> 01:23:32,424 all their cuisines 2820 01:23:32,424 --> 01:23:34,760 and all their cultures 2821 01:23:32,424 --> 01:23:34,760 and all of their tradition, 2822 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,180 and, to some, that's kosher, 2823 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,180 to some, that's not kosher. 2824 01:23:38,180 --> 01:23:40,641 I think that some people are 2825 01:23:38,180 --> 01:23:40,641 going to hang onto the food 2826 01:23:40,641 --> 01:23:42,977 that their grandparents 2827 01:23:40,641 --> 01:23:42,977 have brought with them, 2828 01:23:42,977 --> 01:23:44,645 or the food that they 2829 01:23:42,977 --> 01:23:44,645 had in different countries 2830 01:23:44,645 --> 01:23:47,063 before Israel existed 2831 01:23:44,645 --> 01:23:47,063 is going to be the thing 2832 01:23:47,063 --> 01:23:50,567 you find on their Shabbat 2833 01:23:47,063 --> 01:23:50,567 table every single Friday. 2834 01:23:50,567 --> 01:23:52,945 We're gonna make 2835 01:23:50,567 --> 01:23:52,945 traditional couscous today, 2836 01:23:52,945 --> 01:23:56,866 which is both Tunisian 2837 01:23:52,945 --> 01:23:56,866 and Moroccan and what else? 2838 01:23:56,866 --> 01:23:59,201 -Libyan. 2839 01:23:56,866 --> 01:23:59,201 -Libyan. Algerian. 2840 01:23:59,201 --> 01:24:00,536 French. 2841 01:24:00,536 --> 01:24:02,496 Yeah, everything 2842 01:24:00,536 --> 01:24:02,496 that comes western to Israel, 2843 01:24:02,496 --> 01:24:03,789 they make couscous. 2844 01:24:03,789 --> 01:24:05,958 And this is the Moroccan 2845 01:24:03,789 --> 01:24:05,958 side of the family. 2846 01:24:05,958 --> 01:24:08,210 -Your family's from Morocco? 2847 01:24:05,958 --> 01:24:08,210 -I'm also from Morocco. 2848 01:24:08,210 --> 01:24:09,670 -You were born in Morocco? 2849 01:24:08,210 --> 01:24:09,670 -Yes. 2850 01:24:09,670 --> 01:24:11,881 Do you do 2851 01:24:09,670 --> 01:24:11,881 this for Shabbat normally? 2852 01:24:11,881 --> 01:24:13,841 We grew up with Tunisians. 2853 01:24:13,841 --> 01:24:18,261 And in Tunisia, 2854 01:24:13,841 --> 01:24:18,261 Friday without couscous 2855 01:24:13,841 --> 01:24:18,261 is not Shabbat. 2856 01:24:18,261 --> 01:24:21,306 Couscous is really hard to make. 2857 01:24:18,261 --> 01:24:21,306 It takes a really long time. 2858 01:24:21,306 --> 01:24:26,144 It's not hard, it's only 2859 01:24:21,306 --> 01:24:26,144 a long time because it's 2860 01:24:21,306 --> 01:24:26,144 cooked on steam. 2861 01:24:26,144 --> 01:24:27,897 I've heard 2862 01:24:26,144 --> 01:24:27,897 some people say 2863 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,481 that you need to steam 2864 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,481 it two times. 2865 01:24:29,481 --> 01:24:31,400 Yes, this is 2866 01:24:29,481 --> 01:24:31,400 the second time. 2867 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,027 All right. 2868 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,027 So all the vapor 2869 01:24:33,027 --> 01:24:34,904 and all the smells 2870 01:24:33,027 --> 01:24:34,904 from the vegetables 2871 01:24:34,904 --> 01:24:36,655 season the couscous, as well. 2872 01:24:36,655 --> 01:24:38,073 Yes. 2873 01:24:38,073 --> 01:24:39,950 [Tsabari] 2874 01:24:38,073 --> 01:24:39,950 Around 5:00 or 6:00, 2875 01:24:39,950 --> 01:24:41,368 everybody gathers around, 2876 01:24:41,368 --> 01:24:44,997 and lights 2877 01:24:41,368 --> 01:24:44,997 the candles for Shabbat. 2878 01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:48,500 It's a way to bring 2879 01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:48,500 Shabbat into your house, 2880 01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:48,500 and into yourself, as well. 2881 01:24:51,294 --> 01:24:53,088 Right after 2882 01:24:51,294 --> 01:24:53,088 lighting the candles, 2883 01:24:53,088 --> 01:24:55,674 you're supposed to start 2884 01:24:53,088 --> 01:24:55,674 the ceremonies for Shabbat. 2885 01:24:56,967 --> 01:24:58,761 Baruch atah, 2886 01:24:56,967 --> 01:24:58,761 Adonai Eloheinu, 2887 01:24:58,761 --> 01:25:00,596 Melech haolam, 2888 01:24:58,761 --> 01:25:00,596 asher kid'shanu 2889 01:25:00,596 --> 01:25:02,639 b'mitzvotav, v'tzivanu 2890 01:25:00,596 --> 01:25:02,639 l'hadlik ner shel Shabbat. 2891 01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:05,100 For whoever keeps Shabbat 2892 01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:05,100 for religious people, 2893 01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,518 from the second 2894 01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,518 you light the candles, 2895 01:25:06,518 --> 01:25:08,103 or from the second 2896 01:25:06,518 --> 01:25:08,103 Shabbat enters, 2897 01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:10,146 you're not allowed 2898 01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:10,146 to do any work at all-- 2899 01:25:10,146 --> 01:25:12,399 not lighting the fire, 2900 01:25:10,146 --> 01:25:12,399 not speaking on your phone, 2901 01:25:12,399 --> 01:25:14,443 not lighting a cigarette, 2902 01:25:12,399 --> 01:25:14,443 not cooking food. 2903 01:25:14,443 --> 01:25:19,531 For the next 24, 25 hours, 2904 01:25:14,443 --> 01:25:19,531 you are just resting. 2905 01:25:19,531 --> 01:25:21,241 Studying. 2906 01:25:19,531 --> 01:25:21,241 You're supposed to. 2907 01:25:21,241 --> 01:25:23,035 Studying, 2908 01:25:21,241 --> 01:25:23,035 supposed to study, yes. 2909 01:25:26,121 --> 01:25:31,501 [Hovav] Shabbat should 2910 01:25:26,121 --> 01:25:31,501 be a lovely day of rest, 2911 01:25:31,501 --> 01:25:37,591 and of celebrating 2912 01:25:31,501 --> 01:25:37,591 your family and your values, 2913 01:25:37,591 --> 01:25:43,597 and your culture and whatever 2914 01:25:37,591 --> 01:25:43,597 you find dear to you. 2915 01:25:43,597 --> 01:25:45,808 I guess that 2916 01:25:43,597 --> 01:25:45,808 if you're religious, 2917 01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:48,769 it may be that 2918 01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:48,769 this is what you do. 2919 01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:53,774 For myself, as a secular Jew 2920 01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:53,774 who used to live in Jerusalem, 2921 01:25:53,774 --> 01:25:56,568 Shabbat was oppression. 2922 01:25:56,568 --> 01:25:59,947 During Shabbat, businesses 2923 01:25:56,568 --> 01:25:59,947 are closed by law. 2924 01:25:59,947 --> 01:26:03,158 So if you're stuck 2925 01:25:59,947 --> 01:26:03,158 without tomato paste, 2926 01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:04,785 you cannot get it. 2927 01:26:04,785 --> 01:26:06,787 There is no public 2928 01:26:04,785 --> 01:26:06,787 transportation. 2929 01:26:06,787 --> 01:26:08,163 Cinemas are closed. 2930 01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:09,915 Et cetera, 2931 01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:09,915 et cetera, et cetera. 2932 01:26:09,915 --> 01:26:14,336 So this is why many secular 2933 01:26:09,915 --> 01:26:14,336 Jews moved from Jerusalem, 2934 01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:16,005 which is more 2935 01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:16,005 religious, to Tel Aviv, 2936 01:26:16,005 --> 01:26:18,882 which is a fun, free city. 2937 01:26:18,882 --> 01:26:21,093 I celebrate Shabbat 2938 01:26:18,882 --> 01:26:21,093 in other ways. 2939 01:26:21,093 --> 01:26:25,681 Shabbat is a lovely day 2940 01:26:21,093 --> 01:26:25,681 to be with my daughter 2941 01:26:21,093 --> 01:26:25,681 and my partner. 2942 01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:28,725 [Nathan] There's 2943 01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:28,725 a beautiful sense of family 2944 01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:28,725 in this country. 2945 01:26:28,725 --> 01:26:30,894 When you say a chevrah, 2946 01:26:28,725 --> 01:26:30,894 which means, like... 2947 01:26:30,894 --> 01:26:32,729 chevrah 2948 01:26:32,729 --> 01:26:35,816 ...a group of friends, 2949 01:26:32,729 --> 01:26:35,816 it's a big deal in Israel. 2950 01:26:35,816 --> 01:26:38,485 First of all, people 2951 01:26:35,816 --> 01:26:38,485 were in the army, 2952 01:26:38,485 --> 01:26:40,070 they were in school together, 2953 01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:42,781 they live within walking 2954 01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:42,781 distance of each other, 2955 01:26:42,781 --> 01:26:46,785 and they all see 2956 01:26:42,781 --> 01:26:46,785 their parents once a week. 2957 01:26:46,785 --> 01:26:48,912 They want to be 2958 01:26:46,785 --> 01:26:48,912 together every Shabbat, 2959 01:26:48,912 --> 01:26:50,622 every Friday night. 2960 01:26:50,622 --> 01:26:56,879 [group singing] Shalom Aleichem, 2961 01:26:50,622 --> 01:26:56,879 mal'achei hasharet 2962 01:26:56,879 --> 01:27:00,799 mal'achei elyon. 2963 01:27:00,799 --> 01:27:04,720 Mimelech mal'achei 2964 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:10,225 ham'lachim Hakadosh 2965 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:10,225 baruch Hu. 2966 01:27:10,225 --> 01:27:14,021 [Vered] For secular people, 2967 01:27:10,225 --> 01:27:14,021 Shabbat means big dinners 2968 01:27:14,021 --> 01:27:16,190 or big get-together 2969 01:27:14,021 --> 01:27:16,190 of the families. 2970 01:27:16,190 --> 01:27:17,983 Even if we're not religious, 2971 01:27:17,983 --> 01:27:21,153 the thing about Jewish 2972 01:27:17,983 --> 01:27:21,153 mothers still works. 2973 01:27:21,153 --> 01:27:24,531 The Jewish mother wants 2974 01:27:21,153 --> 01:27:24,531 all her sons and daughters 2975 01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:27,409 and family to be 2976 01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:27,409 around her at Shabbat, 2977 01:27:27,409 --> 01:27:30,286 and we still do that. 2978 01:27:30,286 --> 01:27:32,206 [Solomonov] So you have 2979 01:27:30,286 --> 01:27:32,206 the wild squash, pumpkin, 2980 01:27:32,206 --> 01:27:33,707 chickpeas, celery. 2981 01:27:33,707 --> 01:27:36,752 Chickpeas, potatoes, celery. 2982 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,587 [Tsabari] 2983 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,587 On Friday evening, 2984 01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:40,672 we would always sit, 2985 01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:40,672 the whole family together, 2986 01:27:40,672 --> 01:27:42,841 and this was almost 2987 01:27:40,672 --> 01:27:42,841 a sacred ceremony. 2988 01:27:42,841 --> 01:27:45,761 If somebody was missing 2989 01:27:42,841 --> 01:27:45,761 the feast of Shabbat, 2990 01:27:45,761 --> 01:27:49,639 something really seriously 2991 01:27:45,761 --> 01:27:49,639 had to go wrong. 2992 01:27:49,639 --> 01:27:52,475 -Please, some generosity. 2993 01:27:49,639 --> 01:27:52,475 -How about that? 2994 01:27:52,475 --> 01:27:53,685 Here, have a potato. 2995 01:27:53,685 --> 01:27:55,020 [Vered] For us, the reality 2996 01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:56,605 in American television 2997 01:27:56,605 --> 01:27:58,398 where the family gets 2998 01:27:56,605 --> 01:27:58,398 together just on Christmas 2999 01:27:58,398 --> 01:28:01,068 and Thanksgiving 3000 01:27:58,398 --> 01:28:01,068 is very weird. 3001 01:28:01,068 --> 01:28:04,279 [Solomonov] Your mom 3002 01:28:01,068 --> 01:28:04,279 learned from her mom, 3003 01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:05,864 who learned from her mom, 3004 01:28:05,864 --> 01:28:07,991 who's making it 3005 01:28:05,864 --> 01:28:07,991 back in Morocco, 3006 01:28:07,991 --> 01:28:10,953 way back in the day before there 3007 01:28:07,991 --> 01:28:10,953 was ever an established 3008 01:28:10,953 --> 01:28:13,080 state of Israel 3009 01:28:10,953 --> 01:28:13,080 and brought it here, 3010 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,708 and we get to eat it now, 3011 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,708 made a little more terrible 3012 01:28:16,708 --> 01:28:18,168 than your mom 3013 01:28:16,708 --> 01:28:18,168 normally makes it, 3014 01:28:18,168 --> 01:28:19,753 'cause it was made 3015 01:28:18,168 --> 01:28:19,753 with my hands, 3016 01:28:19,753 --> 01:28:21,880 but that's what makes 3017 01:28:19,753 --> 01:28:21,880 it taste so good. 3018 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,174 That's the richness of it. 3019 01:28:24,174 --> 01:28:28,095 -That's why I think 3020 01:28:24,174 --> 01:28:28,095 it tastes so good. 3021 01:28:24,174 --> 01:28:28,095 -I agree with you. 3022 01:28:28,095 --> 01:28:31,014 [Vered] I think it 3023 01:28:28,095 --> 01:28:31,014 has to do, in a way, 3024 01:28:31,014 --> 01:28:32,808 with the whole culture-- 3025 01:28:32,808 --> 01:28:35,310 small country, 3026 01:28:32,808 --> 01:28:35,310 everybody has to stick together, 3027 01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:37,271 it's us against the world. 3028 01:28:37,271 --> 01:28:39,022 This tradition has 3029 01:28:37,271 --> 01:28:39,022 a lot of negative things, 3030 01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:41,399 but it has also some 3031 01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:41,399 positive things. 3032 01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:44,903 This relation that 3033 01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:44,903 you have with your family, 3034 01:28:44,903 --> 01:28:46,738 and the bigger family, 3035 01:28:46,738 --> 01:28:49,324 I think this is 3036 01:28:46,738 --> 01:28:49,324 one of the nicest aspects 3037 01:28:49,324 --> 01:28:51,326 of being Israeli. 3038 01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:01,461 Enjoy. 3039 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,590 [Solomonov] 3040 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,590 Israeli cuisine grew 3041 01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:07,217 from traditions 3042 01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:07,217 that were brought here, 3043 01:29:07,217 --> 01:29:09,719 and also born here. 3044 01:29:21,356 --> 01:29:22,899 How long have you 3045 01:29:21,356 --> 01:29:22,899 had this spice shop? 3046 01:29:22,899 --> 01:29:24,526 Four hundred years. 3047 01:29:24,526 --> 01:29:27,112 -It's been in your 3048 01:29:24,526 --> 01:29:27,112 family 400 years? 3049 01:29:24,526 --> 01:29:27,112 -Yes. 3050 01:29:30,115 --> 01:29:32,951 In Nazareth, 3051 01:29:30,115 --> 01:29:32,951 Julie Zaher, 3052 01:29:32,951 --> 01:29:34,870 a Christian Arab, 3053 01:29:32,951 --> 01:29:34,870 makes amazing tehina... 3054 01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:36,246 tehina = tahini 3055 01:29:36,246 --> 01:29:37,956 ...the crucial 3056 01:29:36,246 --> 01:29:37,956 ingredient in hummus 3057 01:29:37,956 --> 01:29:39,666 and so many other dishes. 3058 01:29:39,666 --> 01:29:41,126 Where does 3059 01:29:39,666 --> 01:29:41,126 all this come from? 3060 01:29:41,126 --> 01:29:44,296 The sesame seeds 3061 01:29:41,126 --> 01:29:44,296 are from Ethiopia. 3062 01:29:44,296 --> 01:29:46,798 It's a very good kind. 3063 01:29:44,296 --> 01:29:46,798 Its name is Humera. 3064 01:29:46,798 --> 01:29:49,676 It's a very sweet sesame. 3065 01:29:49,676 --> 01:29:54,264 Our drying is 3066 01:29:49,676 --> 01:29:54,264 a very special kind. 3067 01:29:49,676 --> 01:29:54,264 We dry by steam. 3068 01:29:54,264 --> 01:29:57,017 So it's 3069 01:29:54,264 --> 01:29:57,017 very gentle, then? 3070 01:29:57,017 --> 01:29:59,519 Yes, it's a very 3071 01:29:57,017 --> 01:29:59,519 old-fashioned way. 3072 01:29:59,519 --> 01:30:03,106 We dry very slow, 3073 01:29:59,519 --> 01:30:03,106 slow motion. 3074 01:30:07,236 --> 01:30:09,403 The Muslim-Arab 3075 01:30:07,236 --> 01:30:09,403 Mahroum family 3076 01:30:09,403 --> 01:30:13,867 has been making sweets in 3077 01:30:09,403 --> 01:30:13,867 Nazareth for four generations. 3078 01:30:33,178 --> 01:30:36,472 And new food traditions 3079 01:30:33,178 --> 01:30:36,472 arrive every day. 3080 01:30:36,472 --> 01:30:38,683 Bye. 3081 01:30:36,472 --> 01:30:38,683 Shabbat Shalom. Hi. 3082 01:30:38,683 --> 01:30:40,685 Hi. So I wanna order something. 3083 01:30:38,683 --> 01:30:40,685 What do I order here? 3084 01:30:40,685 --> 01:30:43,272 Um, you order 3085 01:30:40,685 --> 01:30:43,272 traditional Georgian food. 3086 01:30:43,272 --> 01:30:45,023 I want this one 3087 01:30:43,272 --> 01:30:45,023 with the egg on it. 3088 01:30:45,023 --> 01:30:47,150 -What's it called? 3089 01:30:45,023 --> 01:30:47,150 -Acharuli. 3090 01:30:47,150 --> 01:30:48,735 -Acharuli? 3091 01:30:47,150 --> 01:30:48,735 -Yes. 3092 01:30:48,735 --> 01:30:50,987 Awesome. 3093 01:30:48,735 --> 01:30:50,987 Oh, my gosh, is that butter? 3094 01:30:50,987 --> 01:30:52,114 It is. 3095 01:30:54,157 --> 01:30:57,202 All right, so a little 3096 01:30:54,157 --> 01:30:57,202 yeast dough, a little cheese. 3097 01:30:57,202 --> 01:30:59,204 I could eat this 3098 01:30:57,202 --> 01:30:59,204 every morning. 3099 01:31:03,292 --> 01:31:04,751 Five years ago, 3100 01:31:03,292 --> 01:31:04,751 here in Jerusalem, 3101 01:31:04,751 --> 01:31:06,962 there was really 3102 01:31:04,751 --> 01:31:06,962 nowhere to eat. 3103 01:31:06,962 --> 01:31:09,339 There were a few places that 3104 01:31:06,962 --> 01:31:09,339 were old and sort of classic, 3105 01:31:09,339 --> 01:31:11,800 and then, there 3106 01:31:09,339 --> 01:31:11,800 were street places. 3107 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,468 But now, we see all 3108 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,468 these chefs emerging, 3109 01:31:14,468 --> 01:31:17,680 and people are really embracing 3110 01:31:14,468 --> 01:31:17,680 not only Israeli cuisine, 3111 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,975 but these little 3112 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,975 nuance of cuisines. 3113 01:31:23,186 --> 01:31:25,188 People have always 3114 01:31:23,186 --> 01:31:25,188 come to Jerusalem 3115 01:31:25,188 --> 01:31:26,940 to visit the holy sites. 3116 01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:29,567 And today, they're 3117 01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:29,567 coming for dinner. 3118 01:31:36,741 --> 01:31:38,785 The hot restaurant 3119 01:31:36,741 --> 01:31:38,785 Machneyuda 3120 01:31:38,785 --> 01:31:41,204 literally took 3121 01:31:38,785 --> 01:31:41,204 the name of this market, 3122 01:31:41,204 --> 01:31:43,665 which for so long 3123 01:31:41,204 --> 01:31:43,665 was sleepy and quiet. 3124 01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,793 It was a place that you would 3125 01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,793 come and shop for produce. 3126 01:31:46,793 --> 01:31:50,046 Now, it's where 3127 01:31:46,793 --> 01:31:50,046 hipsters drink coffee, 3128 01:31:50,046 --> 01:31:52,048 it's where people hang out. 3129 01:31:52,048 --> 01:31:55,551 It's a scene that could not 3130 01:31:52,048 --> 01:31:55,551 have existed five years ago. 3131 01:32:00,890 --> 01:32:03,810 [Granit] I was born 3132 01:32:00,890 --> 01:32:03,810 in Jerusalem, lived 3133 01:32:00,890 --> 01:32:03,810 my whole life in Jerusalem. 3134 01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:07,230 I love the city, 3135 01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:07,230 I love eating in it 3136 01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:07,230 and cooking in it, 3137 01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:09,607 so my food will be 3138 01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:09,607 always related somehow. 3139 01:32:09,607 --> 01:32:11,860 As a young cook, 3140 01:32:09,607 --> 01:32:11,860 and as a chef, 3141 01:32:11,860 --> 01:32:14,029 I was here all the time 3142 01:32:11,860 --> 01:32:14,029 asking questions-- 3143 01:32:14,029 --> 01:32:17,032 "What's that? What's that? 3144 01:32:14,029 --> 01:32:17,032 What's the best season 3145 01:32:14,029 --> 01:32:17,032 for this?" 3146 01:32:17,032 --> 01:32:21,535 And naturally, as I moved 3147 01:32:17,032 --> 01:32:21,535 ahead in the kitchen 3148 01:32:17,032 --> 01:32:21,535 and became a chef, 3149 01:32:21,535 --> 01:32:24,580 all the time, 3150 01:32:21,535 --> 01:32:24,580 my menus were from here. 3151 01:32:24,580 --> 01:32:27,083 Going to the market, 3152 01:32:24,580 --> 01:32:27,083 picking up stuff, 3153 01:32:27,083 --> 01:32:30,670 and a few minutes 3154 01:32:27,083 --> 01:32:30,670 later cooking it. 3155 01:32:30,670 --> 01:32:32,130 What percentage of the stuff 3156 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:34,216 in your restaurant comes 3157 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:34,216 from this market? 3158 01:32:34,216 --> 01:32:39,804 I think, let's say 3159 01:32:34,216 --> 01:32:39,804 the vegetables and herbs 3160 01:32:34,216 --> 01:32:39,804 are almost a hundred percent. 3161 01:32:39,804 --> 01:32:42,265 [speaks Hebrew] 3162 01:32:39,804 --> 01:32:42,265 What's going on, Haim? 3163 01:32:42,265 --> 01:32:44,600 Haim is like our 3164 01:32:42,265 --> 01:32:44,600 special vegetable guy. 3165 01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,727 Awesome. 3166 01:32:45,727 --> 01:32:48,355 Usually he gets 3167 01:32:45,727 --> 01:32:48,355 really special stuff, 3168 01:32:48,355 --> 01:32:50,273 and he works with these 3169 01:32:48,355 --> 01:32:50,273 small growers, 3170 01:32:50,273 --> 01:32:51,858 like, 3171 01:32:50,273 --> 01:32:51,858 small Arabic growers 3172 01:32:51,858 --> 01:32:53,693 that bring him stuff 3173 01:32:51,858 --> 01:32:53,693 from the villages 3174 01:32:53,693 --> 01:32:54,861 or from their gardens. 3175 01:32:54,861 --> 01:32:56,696 So you can 3176 01:32:54,861 --> 01:32:56,696 find some really... 3177 01:32:56,696 --> 01:32:58,365 Some nice 3178 01:32:56,696 --> 01:32:58,365 organic stuff, huh? 3179 01:32:58,365 --> 01:33:00,825 Yeah, organic and really 3180 01:32:58,365 --> 01:33:00,825 special and seasonal stuff. 3181 01:33:11,127 --> 01:33:12,712 So let's make, like, 3182 01:33:11,127 --> 01:33:12,712 a simple soup 3183 01:33:12,712 --> 01:33:15,757 for the beginning 3184 01:33:12,712 --> 01:33:15,757 of the tasting menu. 3185 01:33:15,757 --> 01:33:19,177 Chop them, and then begin 3186 01:33:15,757 --> 01:33:19,177 onions and leeks, 3187 01:33:19,177 --> 01:33:20,512 butter and olive oil. 3188 01:33:20,512 --> 01:33:23,348 It's a Turkish cheese. 3189 01:33:20,512 --> 01:33:23,348 Taste it. 3190 01:33:29,229 --> 01:33:30,688 Wow. 3191 01:33:30,688 --> 01:33:34,401 It tastes like an aged feta. 3192 01:33:34,401 --> 01:33:37,611 Let's make a sauce 3193 01:33:34,401 --> 01:33:37,611 for the agnello (lamb). 3194 01:33:37,611 --> 01:33:41,991 Just with some milk 3195 01:33:37,611 --> 01:33:41,991 and some vegetable stock. 3196 01:33:37,611 --> 01:33:41,991 Melt it down. 3197 01:33:50,083 --> 01:33:51,585 [Vered] It took 3198 01:33:50,083 --> 01:33:51,585 the French people 3199 01:33:51,585 --> 01:33:53,169 hundreds of years, 3200 01:33:53,169 --> 01:33:55,755 it took the Americans 3201 01:33:53,169 --> 01:33:55,755 hundreds of years, 3202 01:33:55,755 --> 01:33:57,631 and they're still debating 3203 01:33:55,755 --> 01:33:57,631 about the question, 3204 01:33:57,631 --> 01:33:59,217 what is American cuisine? 3205 01:33:59,217 --> 01:34:00,427 What is immigrant cuisine? 3206 01:34:00,427 --> 01:34:03,138 What is American, 3207 01:34:00,427 --> 01:34:03,138 by nature? 3208 01:34:03,138 --> 01:34:07,016 You can say now about several 3209 01:34:03,138 --> 01:34:07,016 dishes that are Israeli. 3210 01:34:07,016 --> 01:34:09,936 Hummus became Israeli, 3211 01:34:07,016 --> 01:34:09,936 with all the complexity, 3212 01:34:09,936 --> 01:34:12,981 and all the political 3213 01:34:09,936 --> 01:34:12,981 issues around it, 3214 01:34:12,981 --> 01:34:15,275 but seasonally, 3215 01:34:12,981 --> 01:34:15,275 all the Israeli people eat it. 3216 01:34:15,275 --> 01:34:18,445 They talk about it. 3217 01:34:15,275 --> 01:34:18,445 "What is the best hummus?" 3218 01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,072 is something that is 3219 01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,072 a national question in a way. 3220 01:34:21,072 --> 01:34:22,782 So it is Israeli. 3221 01:34:22,782 --> 01:34:24,909 It doesn't matter now if 3222 01:34:22,782 --> 01:34:24,909 it was born in Lebanon, 3223 01:34:24,909 --> 01:34:29,372 in Jerusalem, or in the hummus 3224 01:34:24,909 --> 01:34:29,372 places in Tel Aviv. 3225 01:34:29,372 --> 01:34:32,292 So you can say about certain 3226 01:34:29,372 --> 01:34:32,292 dishes that are Israeli, 3227 01:34:32,292 --> 01:34:35,629 to define what is 3228 01:34:32,292 --> 01:34:35,629 Israeli cuisine, 3229 01:34:35,629 --> 01:34:38,298 or to wonder whether 3230 01:34:35,629 --> 01:34:38,298 there will be something 3231 01:34:38,298 --> 01:34:39,841 that is Israeli cuisine, 3232 01:34:39,841 --> 01:34:42,885 it's still gonna 3233 01:34:39,841 --> 01:34:42,885 take time to figure out. 3234 01:34:45,639 --> 01:34:47,974 [in Hebrew] 3235 01:34:45,639 --> 01:34:47,974 You don't create a kitchen 3236 01:34:45,639 --> 01:34:47,974 from day to day, 3237 01:34:47,974 --> 01:34:50,226 but from generation 3238 01:34:47,974 --> 01:34:50,226 to generation. 3239 01:34:50,226 --> 01:34:52,521 Now, creating a kitchen, 3240 01:34:50,226 --> 01:34:52,521 it's not my kitchen, 3241 01:34:52,521 --> 01:34:54,523 nor is it my mother's. 3242 01:34:54,523 --> 01:34:56,816 It's a kitchen 3243 01:34:54,523 --> 01:34:56,816 created by the earth. 3244 01:34:56,816 --> 01:35:03,281 Whatever the earth produced, 3245 01:34:56,816 --> 01:35:03,281 people cooked. 3246 01:35:03,281 --> 01:35:06,451 Now, call it an Arab kitchen, 3247 01:35:03,281 --> 01:35:06,451 a Galilean kitchen, 3248 01:35:06,451 --> 01:35:09,579 a Palestinian kitchen, 3249 01:35:06,451 --> 01:35:09,579 call it whatever you want. 3250 01:35:11,456 --> 01:35:13,542 [Offaim] I hope that 3251 01:35:11,456 --> 01:35:13,542 in ten or 15 years, 3252 01:35:13,542 --> 01:35:16,919 and it is certainly 3253 01:35:13,542 --> 01:35:16,919 already happening right now, 3254 01:35:16,919 --> 01:35:21,341 the ingredients will 3255 01:35:16,919 --> 01:35:21,341 be of even higher quality. 3256 01:35:21,341 --> 01:35:24,636 People will learn to 3257 01:35:21,341 --> 01:35:24,636 appreciate vegetables, 3258 01:35:24,636 --> 01:35:30,350 and eggs and milk and meat 3259 01:35:24,636 --> 01:35:30,350 that was raised on this land, 3260 01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:34,354 and they will develop 3261 01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:34,354 a flavor for Eretz Israel, 3262 01:35:34,354 --> 01:35:35,938 a flavor for Israel. 3263 01:35:35,938 --> 01:35:39,275 They will be accounting 3264 01:35:35,938 --> 01:35:39,275 for the taste 3265 01:35:39,275 --> 01:35:41,695 that they were born with. 3266 01:35:41,695 --> 01:35:45,114 You know, when we 3267 01:35:41,695 --> 01:35:45,114 are born and when we die, 3268 01:35:45,114 --> 01:35:48,201 we have a little bit 3269 01:35:45,114 --> 01:35:48,201 of dirt in our mouth, 3270 01:35:48,201 --> 01:35:51,287 which is the dirt 3271 01:35:48,201 --> 01:35:51,287 of where we came from, 3272 01:35:51,287 --> 01:35:54,207 and if we could 3273 01:35:51,287 --> 01:35:54,207 translate that taste 3274 01:35:54,207 --> 01:35:57,377 to what we're making 3275 01:35:54,207 --> 01:35:57,377 in the kitchen, 3276 01:35:57,377 --> 01:36:00,838 that could be 3277 01:35:57,377 --> 01:36:00,838 quite spectacular. 3278 01:36:07,345 --> 01:36:08,888 [Solomonov] 3279 01:36:07,345 --> 01:36:08,888 Cooking is my life. 3280 01:36:08,888 --> 01:36:10,806 Israeli food is 3281 01:36:08,888 --> 01:36:10,806 my life, just about, 3282 01:36:10,806 --> 01:36:12,975 and these are things 3283 01:36:10,806 --> 01:36:12,975 that I've never seen before, 3284 01:36:12,975 --> 01:36:17,397 and I'm just, I'm in awe of 3285 01:36:12,975 --> 01:36:17,397 the complexity of the people, 3286 01:36:17,397 --> 01:36:19,107 and of the cuisines. 3287 01:36:19,107 --> 01:36:21,735 I keep thinking about how this 3288 01:36:19,107 --> 01:36:21,735 relates to me, particularly, 3289 01:36:21,735 --> 01:36:24,112 how I'm gonna 3290 01:36:21,735 --> 01:36:24,112 utilize the things 3291 01:36:24,112 --> 01:36:26,114 that I've learned here 3292 01:36:24,112 --> 01:36:26,114 with my restaurant, 3293 01:36:26,114 --> 01:36:27,532 but it's really 3294 01:36:26,114 --> 01:36:27,532 not about that. 3295 01:36:27,532 --> 01:36:29,909 It's about my connection 3296 01:36:27,532 --> 01:36:29,909 to this place, 3297 01:36:29,909 --> 01:36:31,703 and how it's 3298 01:36:29,909 --> 01:36:31,703 been strengthened. 3299 01:36:33,538 --> 01:36:35,123 In 50 years, 3300 01:36:33,538 --> 01:36:35,123 what are people 3301 01:36:35,123 --> 01:36:36,874 going to be calling 3302 01:36:35,123 --> 01:36:36,874 Israeli cuisine then? 3303 01:36:36,874 --> 01:36:39,001 It's always moving forward, 3304 01:36:36,874 --> 01:36:39,001 always the future, 3305 01:36:39,001 --> 01:36:40,044 what's gonna happen next. 3306 01:36:40,044 --> 01:36:41,879 To be able to do that, 3307 01:36:41,879 --> 01:36:43,506 and couple it with thousands 3308 01:36:41,879 --> 01:36:43,506 of years of tradition, 3309 01:36:43,506 --> 01:36:44,758 is what is so exciting. 3310 01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,971 [extended yell] 3311 01:37:02,233 --> 01:37:06,946 Oh, like everyone in Israel, 3312 01:37:02,233 --> 01:37:06,946 from all over the globe. 3313 01:37:06,946 --> 01:37:11,033 One side came from 3314 01:37:06,946 --> 01:37:11,033 Romania and Poland, 3315 01:37:11,033 --> 01:37:13,119 the other side 3316 01:37:11,033 --> 01:37:13,119 from Afghanistan. 3317 01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,747 -Yemen. 3318 01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,747 -Turkey and Kyrgyzstan. 3319 01:37:15,747 --> 01:37:17,165 Ethiopia. 3320 01:37:17,165 --> 01:37:20,710 Yemenite, 3321 01:37:17,165 --> 01:37:20,710 European-Lithuanian-Russian. 3322 01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,671 -Uzbekistani. 3323 01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,671 -Latvia. 3324 01:37:22,671 --> 01:37:24,088 Poland and Romanian. 3325 01:37:24,088 --> 01:37:26,007 Russia, 3326 01:37:24,088 --> 01:37:26,007 Poland, Belarus. 3327 01:37:26,007 --> 01:37:27,550 Russia and Poland. 3328 01:37:27,550 --> 01:37:29,469 -Yemen, 3329 01:37:27,550 --> 01:37:29,469 -Germany. 3330 01:37:29,469 --> 01:37:31,554 Some Tunisian, Sephardic. 3331 01:37:31,554 --> 01:37:33,431 Pure-bred Bulgarian. 3332 01:37:33,431 --> 01:37:34,599 Austro-Hungary. 3333 01:37:34,599 --> 01:37:36,392 -Nazareth. 3334 01:37:34,599 --> 01:37:36,392 -Iran. 3335 01:37:36,392 --> 01:37:39,228 -Iraq. 3336 01:37:36,392 --> 01:37:39,228 -Poland. 3337 01:37:36,392 --> 01:37:39,228 -Romania. 3338 01:37:39,228 --> 01:37:41,690 -Russia and Turkey. 3339 01:37:39,228 --> 01:37:41,690 -Tiberias. 3340 01:37:41,690 --> 01:37:45,276 Poland and 15 3341 01:37:41,690 --> 01:37:45,276 generation in Israel. 3342 01:37:52,492 --> 01:37:54,536 [narrator] Funding for 3343 01:37:52,492 --> 01:37:54,536 In Search of Israeli Cuisine 3344 01:37:54,536 --> 01:37:55,620 is provided by... 203515

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